Blackburn Rovers Blog: Time to use the loan system (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Blackburn Rovers Blog: Time to use the loan system

8:17am Tuesday 11th September 2012 in Football Photograph of the Author By Dan Clough, Reporter

I CAN’T understand the point of not taking advantage of the loan window.

Surely there is somebody out there with experience who we would be able to bring in.

We have a big squad at the moment, and we have some real talent, but we appear to be relying on a lot of unproven players.

As I said last week, our defence doesn’t look strong enough.

Some said, ‘but we’ve just signed this Henrique guy, and he’s a defender’.

Well that’s all well and good, but nobody knows who he is – even Steve Kean, if his claims of never having seen him play are to be believed.

That leaves us with Scott Dann and Gael Givet as recognised centre backs. Grant Hanley should do a job when he is match fit, but he is still up and coming.

In the full back positions we’ve got the Olsson twins and Bradley Orr.

There’s Jason Lowe, but he’s not really a full back, Bruno Ribeiro, who has done surprisingly well so far but shouldn’t be considered a first choice.

Adam Henley is still unproven, while Josh Morris, who is now 20, seems to have been forgotten about.

All the focus during the transfer window seemed to be on getting strikers in.

Leon Best and Jordan Rhodes cost a lot of money but it would make sense to loan in an experienced defender that has found themselves on the periphery of a top flight team and then spend good money on someone in January.

One idea that has been mentioned to me is that in this league you don’t need four in defence.

Buy a top quality defender on silly money and play three at the back with two attacking full backs, Murphy, Etuhu and Gomes or Dunn with two strikers. Bang. No stopping us.

n I have been really pleased with Nuno Gomes since he came in.

Rovers fans have been blessed over the past few years with classy Europeans strutting their stuff.

If a player is good enough, they never lose that class.

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jinkyjase says...
8:58am Tue 11 Sep 12

"We have a big squad at the moment"

I think that answers your question Dan - big squad, big wage bill.

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Dan11 says...
9:18am Tue 11 Sep 12

Steve Kean doesnt care about the defence at all it seems. He has signed almost entirely midfieldersand strikers over the summer, and failed to address a defence which was responsible for our relegation last season. There are players there that are not good enough for championship football let alone premiership football still considered "first team" defenders.
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KEAN OUT

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OnePostThenTheOther says...
10:42am Tue 11 Sep 12

Get with it Dan, Kean will continue to use his "entertaining", "score one more than you" strategy that he has been perfecting, and which has proven so successful, over the last two seasons.

What Kean doesn't know about decending won't be covered by Hendry either, so promotion is pretty much guaranteed. Why worry? Madame Decides.

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Forever-Blue says...
10:55am Tue 11 Sep 12

The odious ones target of 16 points from the first seven games is coming to its culmination.

So eight point form four games he has accumilated.
Eight points still required to save his pathetic lying arse.
He needs to win all the remaining three then.

So Shebby, a draw at Bristol City and hes gone then.

Its D day Shebby, are you true to your word or you just another puppet.

10K back when Kean gets the sack.

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rovers808 says...
12:28pm Tue 11 Sep 12

I like the sentiment of this article, but it loses direction quite quickly. We are now in a market where we can only loan players, and the manager plays a 'system' of sorts that he isnt likely to change. I'm not sure what the point is of suggesting we go and pay top whack for a defender and play 3 CB's with 2 FBs when a) we cant buy anyone anymore, only loan, b) as already pointed out earlier in the article we only have 2 senior CBs so we'd need another one and 2 back ups probably c) as also pointed out we're not awash with FBs so would need additional back up in that area and d) and perhaps most crucially - we already have around 35 players making it the biggest squad in the championship if not any league. Changing the system is unlikely, but doing so to one that would then need us to loan in an extra 4-5 players is lunacy. With a squad that size, there is absolutely no excuses to be short handed in any area and we will have to live with it. Having said that, defence was a very poor area of recruitment and one that is almost certainly going to cost Kean AND Shebby dear when injuries and poor form bite. The only way it would work is if we managed to ship out at least 3 or 4 of this stupidly heavy squad elsewhere before bringing in extra defensive bodies. We are still shipping goals for fun and this is simply an area (one of many) that Kean is incapable of coaching to the players, or to set up the team for. I'm not sure it matters who plays in that regard, the players are simply on their own and its whether they can escape his damaging 'training' and go about their own business...

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bburnrover says...
1:18pm Tue 11 Sep 12

I cannot see more than 2k reappearing if they sack Kean as we still aren't in the Premiership only that will bring the glory seekers back.The parking and getting in is just like the good old days when we played in front of 8500 every week and had decent managers to boot! Why did we only have 8500 going and a decent manager you may ask? Answer we werent playing Man U,Arsenal and Liverpool that is why Kean has nothing to do with the massive fall in attendencies its all about being in the top league..

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blueandwhitedelight says...
1:58pm Tue 11 Sep 12

As par for the course with Kean the most obvious thing to do is not only being discarded but being publicly ruled out. How can we afford NOT to use the loan market for a defender?

Stephen Warnock would be a perfect target imo, on the fringe at Villa, getting a bit slow for the Prem but still with loads left in the tank and great experience, plus he was awesome at Rovers first time round and loved the club. This would mean the Ollsons could fight over left wing and we'd not have to rely on Hanley, and I'd bet Givet would play well with him again.

Why can Hendry not even influence these things? what is the point in bringing in a defensive coach if he's not going to strengthen the defence?? I really was quite against those who said he was just brought in to boost Kean's credibility and because he was his mate but it's hard to see what influence he is having on the defence, being that the biggest concern there is simply the lack of quality options.

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Gaz M says...
2:18pm Tue 11 Sep 12

Agree with you 100% Dan we are not strong enough in defence and a couple of injuries will just prove the point . Can we take the gamble of getting no injuries, or for that matter any suspensions with the back four when we are seriously trying for promotion . I at all possible I would not leave it to chance and sign a centre half it may pay dividens come the winter months when the going gets tough and injuries start cropping up we dont want to be looking back and wishing we had cover come may

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Forever-Blue says...
2:26pm Tue 11 Sep 12

bburnrover wrote:
I cannot see more than 2k reappearing if they sack Kean as we still aren't in the Premiership only that will bring the glory seekers back.The parking and getting in is just like the good old days when we played in front of 8500 every week and had decent managers to boot! Why did we only have 8500 going and a decent manager you may ask? Answer we werent playing Man U,Arsenal and Liverpool that is why Kean has nothing to do with the massive fall in attendencies its all about being in the top league..

And were not in the top league curtesy of Kean. So technically it is Keans fault

2K back if hes sacked, your having a laugh. It would be 5K at least and would gradually build up if we employed a tried and tested manager who was given total autonomy.

Top of the championship with a descent manager is far better for fans then bottom of the premership with a complte tosser in charge.

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MxMave says...
2:27pm Tue 11 Sep 12

bburnrover wrote:
I cannot see more than 2k reappearing if they sack Kean as we still aren't in the Premiership only that will bring the glory seekers back.The parking and getting in is just like the good old days when we played in front of 8500 every week and had decent managers to boot! Why did we only have 8500 going and a decent manager you may ask? Answer we werent playing Man U,Arsenal and Liverpool that is why Kean has nothing to do with the massive fall in attendencies its all about being in the top league..

Disagree entirely. The attendances will obviously be down when you get relegated but a fall of around 50% attendance between leagues? How many clubs experience that? At the price of £225 for a season ticket, with a good manager and promise of investment Ewood could easily have reached the 20k avg attendance mark.

If you still disagree go and look at the other club attendances in the championship, Rovers are around 5th bottom with one of the higher capacity stadia.

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inflightmagazine says...
3:15pm Tue 11 Sep 12

i agree that our defensive frailties really have not been addressed, just took a look at the squad listings , 4 GK ,9 def, 13 mid, and 9 strikers. does seem we have opted for a very attacking squad, so can someone adequetly explain whay we are choosing to sit back and play cagey football, when we have recruited heavily on our attack and papered over the defence. Never has the phrase the best form of defence is attack been truer than with this squad. Kind of reminds me of the way most people pick their fantasy league teams , spend everything up front and then search the database for the cheapest defender at norwich.

we will only get away with this if we batter teams, sitting back will lead to draws at best and defeats at worst.

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blazerafe says...
4:47pm Tue 11 Sep 12

Forever-Blue wrote:
The odious ones target of 16 points from the first seven games is coming to its culmination.

So eight point form four games he has accumilated.
Eight points still required to save his pathetic lying arse.
He needs to win all the remaining three then.

So Shebby, a draw at Bristol City and hes gone then.

Its D day Shebby, are you true to your word or you just another puppet.

10K back when Kean gets the sack.

Thats not what Shebby said, he said lose 3 and hes gone. Until that happened he wont go, even more so because of the reaction and his subsequent apology.
As for our defence, we should easily have signed another 2 CB's and a LB or two, however we know this wont happen as it would look like a sign of weakness on Keans part. He doesnt admit he is wrong and defence is what got us relegated so he is certainly not going to up and purchase multiple new ones.

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OnePostThenTheOther says...
4:55pm Tue 11 Sep 12

bburnrover wrote:
I cannot see more than 2k reappearing if they sack Kean as we still aren't in the Premiership only that will bring the glory seekers back.The parking and getting in is just like the good old days when we played in front of 8500 every week and had decent managers to boot! Why did we only have 8500 going and a decent manager you may ask? Answer we werent playing Man U,Arsenal and Liverpool that is why Kean has nothing to do with the massive fall in attendencies its all about being in the top league..

Utter and unadulterated bllcks. So when I was flying back from Europe and going to watch Kidd make a hash of it I was a glory hunter too then as well I suppose. The only time I have been a glory hunter was when we were storming the Third Division in 74-75.

Kean is relying on pllcks like you to keep him in a job. Hope you're pleased with your efforts to keep him at the club.

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RTID says...
7:01pm Tue 11 Sep 12

What an inane article.

You may as well have wrote. It's the transfer window, let's buy some new players.

If the right players are not available on loan then there is no point loaning anybody.

And as for playing three at the back - it has never worked and never will. You end up with five in defence most of the time as the full backs don't have a clue what to do.

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Coeur de Lion says...
8:52pm Tue 11 Sep 12

RTID wrote:
What an inane article.

You may as well have wrote. It's the transfer window, let's buy some new players.

If the right players are not available on loan then there is no point loaning anybody.

And as for playing three at the back - it has never worked and never will. You end up with five in defence most of the time as the full backs don't have a clue what to do.

I think that we should use the loan system to get a proper manager.

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MatthewCA says...
8:22am Wed 12 Sep 12

Our defence players are more experianced than other teams in this championship, Still I feel, We should get two "samba" style experianced defence players on loan from the prem bench players than the small freebees trail and error.

Our team now in one focus - Win back to top fight, So no trail needed in this journey. So get defender and rotate the players with good fitness in defence too. This is a difficult game in championship, every week two or three main games comes and cannot feild all your quality players always.

Scott Dann is doing good, but one error of back pass to robbo in the last match, makes the game change. such error from a center back is not acceptable, So we need to improve in each game to avoid more errors.

Any way Kean is FIXED for a long journey with Venky and Happy to see his courage to build the team with the strom from fans and he is wining each game too.

All the best to Rovers players, Hope Rhodes/Gomes/Kazim will upfront for the next match and Rochina will play after 65 mts of the match for gomes. Best wishes.

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bluerob says...
1:00pm Wed 12 Sep 12

bburnrover wrote:
I cannot see more than 2k reappearing if they sack Kean as we still aren't in the Premiership only that will bring the glory seekers back.The parking and getting in is just like the good old days when we played in front of 8500 every week and had decent managers to boot! Why did we only have 8500 going and a decent manager you may ask? Answer we werent playing Man U,Arsenal and Liverpool that is why Kean has nothing to do with the massive fall in attendencies its all about being in the top league..

Sorry but you are totally out of touch with the majority of BRFC fans.

Its not about results, its not about the Premier league. Its about BRFC and our long term future.

Sack Kean and there will be a massive upturn in ST sales and attendances, you might not be able to park as easy but the atmosphere in Ewood would more than make up for it.

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Reg Rover says...
11:58am Thu 13 Sep 12

KEAN TARGETS SINGH
Nowhere has the rise of the owner-manager been more acutely felt than at Blackburn Rovers were the influence of bogus advisors and board room pig-headedness led to the demise of one manager, Sam Allardyce, and the appointment of an inferior replacement, resulting in relegation. Now Steve Kean confesses he has not even seen three of his deadline-day signings play live, having come as recommendations from Blackburn’s global advisor Shebby Singh (pic above).
It is dangerous enough when these owner-manager schemes are headed up by men like Roman Abramovich, who provide the investment to support their whims, when it is the mere work of stooges, calamity awaits.
But is Shebby Singh to blame, Kean indicates the players were signed on Shebby’s say so.
Why has Kean come out with this statement? He knew it would receive ridicule in the National press or was that Kean’s purpose? Judging on Kean’s past exploits I suspect it was.
Let me ask you all a question. When Rovers scattergun player recruitment policy was in operation last season, and Rovers signed a ‘ load of dross’ resulting in relegation, do you think for one minute Kean actually saw most of those signing’s play. No he did not.
He has already stated that he was burdened with players “not of his choice” as he played his usual blame game following relegation.
Then who did sign those players and bring them to the club, none other than Jerome (the man who ruined Blackburn Rovers) Anderson including his son Myles (yet to kick a ball for the Rovers) Anderson. Did Kean go to the National press then?. No he did not. Because Kean knows he is beholding to Anderson for having landed the Rovers job in the first place.
But Shebby Singh is another matter. If things go wrong, as they will, Shebby will get the blame. He is a convenient scape goat for Kean.
Kean plays a waiting game. He did it with Paul Hunt, successfully removing him Ewood Park six months after Hunt wanted Kean sacking. Kean wants rid of Shebby Singh.
Shebby you are up against a slippery, conniving opponent.
BEWARE.
Reg.
www.regoftherovers.c
o.uk

KEAN TARGETS SINGH Nowhere has the rise of the owner-manager been more acutely felt than at Blackburn Rovers were the influence of bogus advisors and board room pig-headedness led to the demise of one manager, Sam Allardyce, and the appointment of an inferior replacement, resulting in relegation. Now Steve Kean confesses he has not even seen three of his deadline-day signings play live, having come as recommendations from Blackburn’s global advisor Shebby Singh (pic above). It is dangerous enough when these owner-manager schemes are headed up by men like Roman Abramovich, who provide the investment to support their whims, when it is the mere work of stooges, calamity awaits. But is Shebby Singh to blame, Kean indicates the players were signed on Shebby’s say so. Why has Kean come out with this statement? He knew it would receive ridicule in the National press or was that Kean’s purpose? Judging on Kean’s past exploits I suspect it was. Let me ask you all a question. When Rovers scattergun player recruitment policy was in operation last season, and Rovers signed a ‘ load of dross’ resulting in relegation, do you think for one minute Kean actually saw most of those signing’s play. No he did not. He has already stated that he was burdened with players “not of his choice” as he played his usual blame game following relegation. Then who did sign those players and bring them to the club, none other than Jerome (the man who ruined Blackburn Rovers) Anderson including his son Myles (yet to kick a ball for the Rovers) Anderson. Did Kean go to the National press then?. No he did not. Because Kean knows he is beholding to Anderson for having landed the Rovers job in the first place. But Shebby Singh is another matter. If things go wrong, as they will, Shebby will get the blame. He is a convenient scape goat for Kean. Kean plays a waiting game. He did it with Paul Hunt, successfully removing him Ewood Park six months after Hunt wanted Kean sacking. Kean wants rid of Shebby Singh. Shebby you are up against a slippery, conniving opponent. BEWARE. Reg. www.regoftherovers.c o.uk Reg Rover

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