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Blackburn Rovers consider options after rejection of Rhodes bid
10:07am Tuesday 7th August 2012 in Football
By Andy Cryer, Blackburn Rovers reporter
BLACKBURN Rovers are prepared to turn their attention to other targets after Huddersfield Town rejected their offer for striker Jordan Rhodes.
Rovers made their move for the highly-rated Rhodes at the end of last week but had to wait for an answer from the Terriers.
It is understood that the total package offered by Rovers was worth around £6m but Huddersfield have now decided to turn down the bid for the 22-year-old, who has been linked with a host of clubs after netting 40 times last season.
The newly promoted side are eager to hold on to their star man and are said to be reluctant to sell to another Championship club.
They were also reported to be unimpressed by Steve Kean’s decision to go public on Rovers’ bid for Rhodes.
Before news of the bid’s rejection, Kean, left, had said: “I can confirm that we have a bid in for Rhodes and are also interested in other players.”
Rovers want to add two players to their strike force before their first game of the season at Ipswich Town on August 18 after losing £3m signing Leon Best for at least six months with a cruciate knee ligament injury.
They are already closing in on a loan deal for Galatasaray’s Colin Kazim-Richards, who played in Rovers’ behind closed doors training match against NEC Nijmegen on Sunday.
Rhodes was seen as their main target following Best’s injury but it is understood that Rovers are not prepared to increase their offer for the Scotland under 21 international and will switch their attention to other strikers unless Huddersfield soften their stance.
The Terriers have significant financial backing from chairman Dean Hoyle and, under no pressure to sell, they want to retain Rhodes to spearhead their Championship challenge this season.
If they do eventually decide to cash in on a player who seems set for bigger things they may expect interest from other clubs to force the forward’s price up even further.
Rovers will still hope that Huddersfield change their mind and decide that the offer they have already received is too good to miss out on, but Kean will now assess other targets knowing he needs to bolster his squad quickly.
Rovers are also close to finalising a deal to sign Portuguese midfielder Diogo Rosado after the 22-year-old passed a medical.
* Fans will be able to get a first glimpse of new signing Dickson Etuhu when the club hold an open training session tomorrow as part of a fun day at Ewood Park.
Activites including bouncy castles and a penalty speed cage will run from 10.30am until 3pm, with the training session at 11am.
Comments(214)
Kermit The Frog
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10:16am Tue 7 Aug 12
givet82 wrote:Oh the arrogance, have a look at the fledgling Championship table - you will find that amazingly enough Blackburn are now in the same division as Huddersfield Town and therefore are RIVALS.
Worrying times when huddersfield consider us rivals, also i think going public is most of the time a decent tactical move to land a player IF you are a big blub with massive intentions, unfortunetly for Rovers Rhodes will not consider us a massive step up so probably won't force a move!
The days of Man Utd being your rivals are over sunshine - get with the programme.
peely
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10:22am Tue 7 Aug 12
MatthewCA
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10:23am Tue 7 Aug 12
givet82
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10:24am Tue 7 Aug 12
Kermit The Frog wrote:Uh that was excactly my point!
givet82 wrote:Oh the arrogance, have a look at the fledgling Championship table - you will find that amazingly enough Blackburn are now in the same division as Huddersfield Town and therefore are RIVALS.
Worrying times when huddersfield consider us rivals, also i think going public is most of the time a decent tactical move to land a player IF you are a big blub with massive intentions, unfortunetly for Rovers Rhodes will not consider us a massive step up so probably won't force a move!
The days of Man Utd being your rivals are over sunshine - get with the programme.
Gaz M
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10:25am Tue 7 Aug 12
Kermit The Frog
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10:26am Tue 7 Aug 12
givet82 wrote:I am sure it was
Kermit The Frog wrote:Uh that was excactly my point!
givet82 wrote:Oh the arrogance, have a look at the fledgling Championship table - you will find that amazingly enough Blackburn are now in the same division as Huddersfield Town and therefore are RIVALS.
Worrying times when huddersfield consider us rivals, also i think going public is most of the time a decent tactical move to land a player IF you are a big blub with massive intentions, unfortunetly for Rovers Rhodes will not consider us a massive step up so probably won't force a move!
The days of Man Utd being your rivals are over sunshine - get with the programme.
BlueSkies
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10:28am Tue 7 Aug 12
P888HOW
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10:29am Tue 7 Aug 12
givet82
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10:29am Tue 7 Aug 12
Kermit The Frog wrote:Read the last sentence i wrote gobsh!te, your the arrogant one who doesn't read and digest information. I smell a dumb dingle
givet82 wrote:I am sure it was
Kermit The Frog wrote:Uh that was excactly my point!
givet82 wrote:Oh the arrogance, have a look at the fledgling Championship table - you will find that amazingly enough Blackburn are now in the same division as Huddersfield Town and therefore are RIVALS.
Worrying times when huddersfield consider us rivals, also i think going public is most of the time a decent tactical move to land a player IF you are a big blub with massive intentions, unfortunetly for Rovers Rhodes will not consider us a massive step up so probably won't force a move!
The days of Man Utd being your rivals are over sunshine - get with the programme.
dangerous dave
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10:30am Tue 7 Aug 12
Yes and our opposition are the likes of Barnsley, Peterborough, Watford & co and we'll be hard pressed to keep up with some of these teams with Hendry and our defensive skills leaving a lot to be desired!!!!!
OUT WITH KEAN HENDRY AGNEW SINGH VENKYS.
GAZHAY
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10:33am Tue 7 Aug 12
ronnie clayton
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10:33am Tue 7 Aug 12
MatthewCA wrote:Bendtner`s on 52,000 pounds a week at Arsenal !
Nicklas Bendtner is available if he is fine to play in championship with blackburn.
Kean and Hendry were seen at the bar at the Tickled Trout ,enjoying their national drink,they were seen playing Fantasy football , Kean spent all his money on Roy of the Rovers he thought he was a real person ,and Hendry had 5,000 grand for Burnley to win the championship !
Lancs - pensioner
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10:35am Tue 7 Aug 12
Need I go on, it was NEVER going to happen, keep putting bids in that are unexceptable is just cheap publicity.
Notice we managed to sign all the freebys with no problems.
No you can fool some of the people some of the time but after 18 months of the same things happening you get used to Bull Sh!t coming out of Ewood.
Another couple of examples if I remember correctly,
We need to hit the ground running and get the players we want in early.
We are serious when talking about Beckham, Ronaldo,
Bull Sh!t and More Bull sh!t
And b4 anyone says it, yes I got out of bed the wrong side this morning.
givet82
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10:36am Tue 7 Aug 12
MatthewCA wrote:That is without doubt matthew the most sensible posts you have ever made, don't think he will lower himself though especially with his ego
Nicklas Bendtner is available if he is fine to play in championship with blackburn.
Lancs - pensioner
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10:36am Tue 7 Aug 12
Need I go on, it was NEVER going to happen, keep putting bids in that are unexceptable is just cheap publicity.
Notice we managed to sign all the freebys with no problems.
No you can fool some of the people some of the time but after 18 months of the same things happening you get used to Bull Sh!t coming out of Ewood.
Another couple of examples if I remember correctly,
We need to hit the ground running and get the players we want in early.
We are serious when talking about Beckham, Ronaldo,
Bull Sh!t and More Bull sh!t
And b4 anyone says it, yes I got out of bed the wrong side this morning.
rarubbish
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10:37am Tue 7 Aug 12
We were never in the hunt for Rhodes
more smoke screens from the clowns at Rovers
Roy Race
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10:38am Tue 7 Aug 12
Lancs - pensioner wrote:Join me on the beach LP!
Well well, what did I say 3 weeks ago Rhodes will never come to this circus, there chairman is backing his manager and club, they dont need to sell, there clubs in profit,and being run by good honest people who care about there club. Need I go on, it was NEVER going to happen, keep putting bids in that are unexceptable is just cheap publicity. Notice we managed to sign all the freebys with no problems. No you can fool some of the people some of the time but after 18 months of the same things happening you get used to Bull Sh!t coming out of Ewood. Another couple of examples if I remember correctly, We need to hit the ground running and get the players we want in early. We are serious when talking about Beckham, Ronaldo, Bull Sh!t and More Bull sh!t And b4 anyone says it, yes I got out of bed the wrong side this morning.
.
One of the 12,000 signing off for good. Time to move on rather than suffer these fools anymore LP.
Lancs - pensioner
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10:39am Tue 7 Aug 12
givet82 wrote:Got to agree with Givet MathewC, your best post yet.
MatthewCA wrote: Nicklas Bendtner is available if he is fine to play in championship with blackburn.That is without doubt matthew the most sensible posts you have ever made, don't think he will lower himself though especially with his ego
TONYD44
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10:43am Tue 7 Aug 12
Lancs - pensioner
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10:43am Tue 7 Aug 12
Roy Race wrote:Hi Roy
Lancs - pensioner wrote: Well well, what did I say 3 weeks ago Rhodes will never come to this circus, there chairman is backing his manager and club, they dont need to sell, there clubs in profit,and being run by good honest people who care about there club. Need I go on, it was NEVER going to happen, keep putting bids in that are unexceptable is just cheap publicity. Notice we managed to sign all the freebys with no problems. No you can fool some of the people some of the time but after 18 months of the same things happening you get used to Bull Sh!t coming out of Ewood. Another couple of examples if I remember correctly, We need to hit the ground running and get the players we want in early. We are serious when talking about Beckham, Ronaldo, Bull Sh!t and More Bull sh!t And b4 anyone says it, yes I got out of bed the wrong side this morning.Join me on the beach LP! . One of the 12,000 signing off for good. Time to move on rather than suffer these fools anymore LP.
As much as i would like to join you mate, its become an obsesion with me now to see Kean sacked and Venkys help our club not pillage it.
I do think though it will take years to repair the damage Venkys and kean have done, our lovely family run club has become a laughing stock in the football world.
Good luck mate where ever you end up.It would be nice if it was some day back at Ewood!
davemal
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10:53am Tue 7 Aug 12
thommovat
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10:57am Tue 7 Aug 12
BRFC's offer, whatever it was!
Gaz M
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10:57am Tue 7 Aug 12
maltese blue n white
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10:57am Tue 7 Aug 12
that will be a first for fans since the Venky's arrived.... Why not just announce Keans dismissal? that would cheer up thousands,
fitz808
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11:00am Tue 7 Aug 12
dangerous dave wrote:that must be it then. what stunning insight you have.
Probably just a PR stunt with a bid that they knew would not be acceptable plus the fact that the plank Kean went public ensuring the deal wouldn't go through - who knows with this lot of idiots in charge!!!!!!!! Yes and our opposition are the likes of Barnsley, Peterborough, Watford & co and we'll be hard pressed to keep up with some of these teams with Hendry and our defensive skills leaving a lot to be desired!!!!! OUT WITH KEAN HENDRY AGNEW SINGH VENKYS.
we will never know the terms of the bid, so it's pointless to speculate. i would guess it would have had to have been higher than Fulham's initial one.
as for kean going public, it just confirms how fickle some seem to be now. if there's no news you chip up, and if it's news you chip up. personally i would avoid going public with any bid unless there was clear indication it might sway a player. i don't feel either tactic is particularly idiotic though.
P888HOW
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11:02am Tue 7 Aug 12
carlmc1
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11:02am Tue 7 Aug 12
The last time we spent that sort of money was on Scott Dann and I am afraid that was wasted money. If we are really serious about getting promotion, I really believe we have to up the offer and that will then prove, this was not another publicity stunt. And if we are really really serious about getting promotion then the axe needs to be wielded!
benal13
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11:03am Tue 7 Aug 12
Lancs - pensioner wrote:DONT ENCOURAGE HIM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
givet82 wrote:Got to agree with Givet MathewC, your best post yet.
MatthewCA wrote: Nicklas Bendtner is available if he is fine to play in championship with blackburn.That is without doubt matthew the most sensible posts you have ever made, don't think he will lower himself though especially with his ego
!!!!!!!
maltese blue n white
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11:12am Tue 7 Aug 12
benal13 wrote:Matthew, go lie down and take your medication.....
Lancs - pensioner wrote:DONT ENCOURAGE HIM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
givet82 wrote:Got to agree with Givet MathewC, your best post yet.
MatthewCA wrote: Nicklas Bendtner is available if he is fine to play in championship with blackburn.That is without doubt matthew the most sensible posts you have ever made, don't think he will lower himself though especially with his ego
!!!!!!!
fitz808
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11:12am Tue 7 Aug 12
rarubbish wrote:not sure anyone at the club had proclaimed a £6m bid at any point. last source i read was of something around £4m with add ons, but it's purely paper speculation.
£6M bid from Blackburn,get real everyone. We were never in the hunt for Rhodes more smoke screens from the clowns at Rovers
it seems a little pointless for bids to be formulated to deliberately mislead. i would imagine the process requires some significant breakdown of how the fee is to be paid, which would require legal advice, which is costly... not ideal for a club with little cash
rovertillidie
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11:25am Tue 7 Aug 12
At the end of last season I felt as low as I have ever been as a Rovers supporter of 40 years and could only see the club going through the divisions back into the mire of the lower leagues BUT I have been slightly encouraged that some structure (Hendry, Agnew and Singh) has been put back into the club, we have made in my opinion some good signings (Best, Nunes, Murphy and Etuhu) unfortunately Best won't feature and that is a shame because I think he would have been a great success and a real handful at this level. We are also looking to add to this list by the way. We have also took a chance on a group of Portuguese youngsters in the hope one or two will come off for the future.
Therefore I am willing to give this lot another chance and see where we are after the first 10-15 games. Its so easy to jump on a bandwagon of negativity. I have to say overall I have been surprised at the level of investment as detailed above Venkys have put back in, they have not asset stripped which was my worst fear at the end of last season.
I'll be there hopefully enjoying a surprisingly good season at Ewood whilst some so called supporters will be shopping in Blackburn Town Centre with the missus .......now that is a scary thought!!
Cut the negative thoughts out your minds, get real and try looking at the facts as detailed above.....yes many many mistakes have been made in the past but lets look at what has happened across close season and take some encouragement that Venkys have invested in the club.
hasslem hasslem
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11:28am Tue 7 Aug 12
givet82 wrote:givet - don't worry about this muppet. another interloper who struggles to read.
Kermit The Frog wrote:Read the last sentence i wrote gobsh!te, your the arrogant one who doesn't read and digest information. I smell a dumb dingle
givet82 wrote:I am sure it was
Kermit The Frog wrote:Uh that was excactly my point!
givet82 wrote:Oh the arrogance, have a look at the fledgling Championship table - you will find that amazingly enough Blackburn are now in the same division as Huddersfield Town and therefore are RIVALS.
Worrying times when huddersfield consider us rivals, also i think going public is most of the time a decent tactical move to land a player IF you are a big blub with massive intentions, unfortunetly for Rovers Rhodes will not consider us a massive step up so probably won't force a move!
The days of Man Utd being your rivals are over sunshine - get with the programme.
.
he/she will probably hang around for about a month trying to wind rovers fans up and then crawl away like a slimy toad.
.
Rovers 1495
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11:33am Tue 7 Aug 12
Kiltedjock
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11:33am Tue 7 Aug 12
Judge Nic Sanders
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11:34am Tue 7 Aug 12
fitz808 wrote:Their budget for legal fees has been earmarked already.
rarubbish wrote:not sure anyone at the club had proclaimed a £6m bid at any point. last source i read was of something around £4m with add ons, but it's purely paper speculation.
£6M bid from Blackburn,get real everyone. We were never in the hunt for Rhodes more smoke screens from the clowns at Rovers
it seems a little pointless for bids to be formulated to deliberately mislead. i would imagine the process requires some significant breakdown of how the fee is to be paid, which would require legal advice, which is costly... not ideal for a club with little cash
Rovers 1495
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11:34am Tue 7 Aug 12
gleechy
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11:34am Tue 7 Aug 12
Lancs - pensioner wrote:Me too, now Mathew try saying out kean really fast..
givet82 wrote:Got to agree with Givet MathewC, your best post yet.
MatthewCA wrote: Nicklas Bendtner is available if he is fine to play in championship with blackburn.That is without doubt matthew the most sensible posts you have ever made, don't think he will lower himself though especially with his ego
hasslem hasslem
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11:34am Tue 7 Aug 12
katrew
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11:37am Tue 7 Aug 12
rovertillidie wrote:You are clearly deluded if you think Kean and Co deserve another chance or that Venky's have invested in the club. Get real they have taken millions in player sales and signed freebies and very low cost purchases. I for one don't think Kean deserves another 10 to 15 games because we will be in a very poor postion by then.
I feel a lot of people are to content just to moan in their comments and I suppose I may have done my share in the past....lets get real here Kean and co are going nowhere at the moment. No one including me doubts that he should have gone before Christmas last year but for whatever reason he remains so we have to live with it for the present. At the end of last season I felt as low as I have ever been as a Rovers supporter of 40 years and could only see the club going through the divisions back into the mire of the lower leagues BUT I have been slightly encouraged that some structure (Hendry, Agnew and Singh) has been put back into the club, we have made in my opinion some good signings (Best, Nunes, Murphy and Etuhu) unfortunately Best won't feature and that is a shame because I think he would have been a great success and a real handful at this level. We are also looking to add to this list by the way. We have also took a chance on a group of Portuguese youngsters in the hope one or two will come off for the future. Therefore I am willing to give this lot another chance and see where we are after the first 10-15 games. Its so easy to jump on a bandwagon of negativity. I have to say overall I have been surprised at the level of investment as detailed above Venkys have put back in, they have not asset stripped which was my worst fear at the end of last season. I'll be there hopefully enjoying a surprisingly good season at Ewood whilst some so called supporters will be shopping in Blackburn Town Centre with the missus .......now that is a scary thought!! Cut the negative thoughts out your minds, get real and try looking at the facts as detailed above.....yes many many mistakes have been made in the past but lets look at what has happened across close season and take some encouragement that Venkys have invested in the club.
Kean out
Venky's out
dh1955
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11:40am Tue 7 Aug 12
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Is it surprising that decent football people wont deal with that bunch of clowns we have running the now circus at Ewood?
JOURNALISM is the INVESTIGATION and reporting of events, issues and trends to a broad audience
Its a pity we don't have a journalist on this paper capable of doing more than accepting and printing the fabricated stories that spew forth from Coco and his chums.
Away games only for me, I wont return to Ewood until Rovers is run like a proper club again!!
RTID
Rovers 1495
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11:44am Tue 7 Aug 12
gleechy
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11:45am Tue 7 Aug 12
rovertillidie wrote:What gives you the idea that the only other thing you can do is shop with the missus on Saturday?
I feel a lot of people are to content just to moan in their comments and I suppose I may have done my share in the past....lets get real here Kean and co are going nowhere at the moment. No one including me doubts that he should have gone before Christmas last year but for whatever reason he remains so we have to live with it for the present.
At the end of last season I felt as low as I have ever been as a Rovers supporter of 40 years and could only see the club going through the divisions back into the mire of the lower leagues BUT I have been slightly encouraged that some structure (Hendry, Agnew and Singh) has been put back into the club, we have made in my opinion some good signings (Best, Nunes, Murphy and Etuhu) unfortunately Best won't feature and that is a shame because I think he would have been a great success and a real handful at this level. We are also looking to add to this list by the way. We have also took a chance on a group of Portuguese youngsters in the hope one or two will come off for the future.
Therefore I am willing to give this lot another chance and see where we are after the first 10-15 games. Its so easy to jump on a bandwagon of negativity. I have to say overall I have been surprised at the level of investment as detailed above Venkys have put back in, they have not asset stripped which was my worst fear at the end of last season.
I'll be there hopefully enjoying a surprisingly good season at Ewood whilst some so called supporters will be shopping in Blackburn Town Centre with the missus .......now that is a scary thought!!
Cut the negative thoughts out your minds, get real and try looking at the facts as detailed above.....yes many many mistakes have been made in the past but lets look at what has happened across close season and take some encouragement that Venkys have invested in the club.
If all other clubs stood still and Rovers moved forward you would be right to be optomistic, they don't, you have a foolish arrogance about your definition of a true fan, playing into SK's hands.
You are going to have to accept that they got it wrong when the football starts, and I'm prepared to wait for your, oops a daisy moment.
AndyW
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11:50am Tue 7 Aug 12
Again.
Rhodes would be one lad worth pushing the boat out for, not just offering a couple of million, crossing your fingers and hoping for the best.
Does stink of 'publicity stunt' the more you think about it...
rovertillidie
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11:53am Tue 7 Aug 12
katrew wrote:But Venkys have invested in the club, since the end of last season I agree they have sold players in the past, the players I have mentioned have not been low cost purchases they are quality players for the level we will be playing at anfd they will command good wages. There is no other option now than to give Kean another chance because you nor I can change anything.....we have tried but failed.
rovertillidie wrote: I feel a lot of people are to content just to moan in their comments and I suppose I may have done my share in the past....lets get real here Kean and co are going nowhere at the moment. No one including me doubts that he should have gone before Christmas last year but for whatever reason he remains so we have to live with it for the present. At the end of last season I felt as low as I have ever been as a Rovers supporter of 40 years and could only see the club going through the divisions back into the mire of the lower leagues BUT I have been slightly encouraged that some structure (Hendry, Agnew and Singh) has been put back into the club, we have made in my opinion some good signings (Best, Nunes, Murphy and Etuhu) unfortunately Best won't feature and that is a shame because I think he would have been a great success and a real handful at this level. We are also looking to add to this list by the way. We have also took a chance on a group of Portuguese youngsters in the hope one or two will come off for the future. Therefore I am willing to give this lot another chance and see where we are after the first 10-15 games. Its so easy to jump on a bandwagon of negativity. I have to say overall I have been surprised at the level of investment as detailed above Venkys have put back in, they have not asset stripped which was my worst fear at the end of last season. I'll be there hopefully enjoying a surprisingly good season at Ewood whilst some so called supporters will be shopping in Blackburn Town Centre with the missus .......now that is a scary thought!! Cut the negative thoughts out your minds, get real and try looking at the facts as detailed above.....yes many many mistakes have been made in the past but lets look at what has happened across close season and take some encouragement that Venkys have invested in the club.You are clearly deluded if you think Kean and Co deserve another chance or that Venky's have invested in the club. Get real they have taken millions in player sales and signed freebies and very low cost purchases. I for one don't think Kean deserves another 10 to 15 games because we will be in a very poor postion by then. Kean out Venky's out
If things don't go to plan I will join the masses and try to remove him again but he has to be give 10-15 games to see what happens.
Venkys have invested in the club at a time when they could have sold all the assets and bought nobodys.
dangerous dave
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11:53am Tue 7 Aug 12
KEAN HENDRY AGNEW SINGH VENKYS OUT
rovertillidie
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12:02pm Tue 7 Aug 12
dangerous dave wrote:Oh yes that would be a step forward get them all out .....and replace them by who exactly?????....as i said there is a lot of negativity on this site without a thought for a realistic way forward.
rovertillidie - go to bed and take a tablet your obviously not thinking straight!!! KEAN HENDRY AGNEW SINGH VENKYS OUT
We are two weeks away from the start of the season and we have to give them a chance...10-15 games in is the time to take stock....only being realistic nothing will change before then.
GAZHAY
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12:02pm Tue 7 Aug 12
rovertillidie wrote:The level of investment???
I feel a lot of people are to content just to moan in their comments and I suppose I may have done my share in the past....lets get real here Kean and co are going nowhere at the moment. No one including me doubts that he should have gone before Christmas last year but for whatever reason he remains so we have to live with it for the present. At the end of last season I felt as low as I have ever been as a Rovers supporter of 40 years and could only see the club going through the divisions back into the mire of the lower leagues BUT I have been slightly encouraged that some structure (Hendry, Agnew and Singh) has been put back into the club, we have made in my opinion some good signings (Best, Nunes, Murphy and Etuhu) unfortunately Best won't feature and that is a shame because I think he would have been a great success and a real handful at this level. We are also looking to add to this list by the way. We have also took a chance on a group of Portuguese youngsters in the hope one or two will come off for the future. Therefore I am willing to give this lot another chance and see where we are after the first 10-15 games. Its so easy to jump on a bandwagon of negativity. I have to say overall I have been surprised at the level of investment as detailed above Venkys have put back in, they have not asset stripped which was my worst fear at the end of last season. I'll be there hopefully enjoying a surprisingly good season at Ewood whilst some so called supporters will be shopping in Blackburn Town Centre with the missus .......now that is a scary thought!! Cut the negative thoughts out your minds, get real and try looking at the facts as detailed above.....yes many many mistakes have been made in the past but lets look at what has happened across close season and take some encouragement that Venkys have invested in the club.
Get real they have sold millions and spent about 20% of this money. Please Steve stop writing on here!!!
gleechy
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12:02pm Tue 7 Aug 12
rovertillidie wrote:I see the club in a totally different way. The owners have backed themselves into a corner, they can only get reject staff, unwanted by others.
katrew wrote:But Venkys have invested in the club, since the end of last season I agree they have sold players in the past, the players I have mentioned have not been low cost purchases they are quality players for the level we will be playing at anfd they will command good wages. There is no other option now than to give Kean another chance because you nor I can change anything.....we have tried but failed.
rovertillidie wrote: I feel a lot of people are to content just to moan in their comments and I suppose I may have done my share in the past....lets get real here Kean and co are going nowhere at the moment. No one including me doubts that he should have gone before Christmas last year but for whatever reason he remains so we have to live with it for the present. At the end of last season I felt as low as I have ever been as a Rovers supporter of 40 years and could only see the club going through the divisions back into the mire of the lower leagues BUT I have been slightly encouraged that some structure (Hendry, Agnew and Singh) has been put back into the club, we have made in my opinion some good signings (Best, Nunes, Murphy and Etuhu) unfortunately Best won't feature and that is a shame because I think he would have been a great success and a real handful at this level. We are also looking to add to this list by the way. We have also took a chance on a group of Portuguese youngsters in the hope one or two will come off for the future. Therefore I am willing to give this lot another chance and see where we are after the first 10-15 games. Its so easy to jump on a bandwagon of negativity. I have to say overall I have been surprised at the level of investment as detailed above Venkys have put back in, they have not asset stripped which was my worst fear at the end of last season. I'll be there hopefully enjoying a surprisingly good season at Ewood whilst some so called supporters will be shopping in Blackburn Town Centre with the missus .......now that is a scary thought!! Cut the negative thoughts out your minds, get real and try looking at the facts as detailed above.....yes many many mistakes have been made in the past but lets look at what has happened across close season and take some encouragement that Venkys have invested in the club.You are clearly deluded if you think Kean and Co deserve another chance or that Venky's have invested in the club. Get real they have taken millions in player sales and signed freebies and very low cost purchases. I for one don't think Kean deserves another 10 to 15 games because we will be in a very poor postion by then. Kean out Venky's out
If things don't go to plan I will join the masses and try to remove him again but he has to be give 10-15 games to see what happens.
Venkys have invested in the club at a time when they could have sold all the assets and bought nobodys.
The players they get are unheard of or given unsustainable long contracts for their age, which no other club will risk, because of the possible damage to the future of the club.
Rovers haven't got their poor reputation through idle chit chat, it's well founded, poor actions, poor words, and a hype that Don King would be proud of.
They say they are going places, but, they are going nowhere, you have to ignore their predictions.
Keen O to Get Kean Out
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12:23pm Tue 7 Aug 12
Kermit The Frog wrote:Kermit u a bunlee fan then
givet82 wrote: Worrying times when huddersfield consider us rivals, also i think going public is most of the time a decent tactical move to land a player IF you are a big blub with massive intentions, unfortunetly for Rovers Rhodes will not consider us a massive step up so probably won't force a move!Oh the arrogance, have a look at the fledgling Championship table - you will find that amazingly enough Blackburn are now in the same division as Huddersfield Town and therefore are RIVALS. The days of Man Utd being your rivals are over sunshine - get with the programme.
bluerob
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12:26pm Tue 7 Aug 12
rovertillidie wrote:I run 2 business and I wish I had customers like you. I could lie to you, not listen to your complaints, sell you poor products and treat you with no respect when you come through my door, and still you would return and pass your hard earned cash in to my hands .
I feel a lot of people are to content just to moan in their comments and I suppose I may have done my share in the past....lets get real here Kean and co are going nowhere at the moment. No one including me doubts that he should have gone before Christmas last year but for whatever reason he remains so we have to live with it for the present.
At the end of last season I felt as low as I have ever been as a Rovers supporter of 40 years and could only see the club going through the divisions back into the mire of the lower leagues BUT I have been slightly encouraged that some structure (Hendry, Agnew and Singh) has been put back into the club, we have made in my opinion some good signings (Best, Nunes, Murphy and Etuhu) unfortunately Best won't feature and that is a shame because I think he would have been a great success and a real handful at this level. We are also looking to add to this list by the way. We have also took a chance on a group of Portuguese youngsters in the hope one or two will come off for the future.
Therefore I am willing to give this lot another chance and see where we are after the first 10-15 games. Its so easy to jump on a bandwagon of negativity. I have to say overall I have been surprised at the level of investment as detailed above Venkys have put back in, they have not asset stripped which was my worst fear at the end of last season.
I'll be there hopefully enjoying a surprisingly good season at Ewood whilst some so called supporters will be shopping in Blackburn Town Centre with the missus .......now that is a scary thought!!
Cut the negative thoughts out your minds, get real and try looking at the facts as detailed above.....yes many many mistakes have been made in the past but lets look at what has happened across close season and take some encouragement that Venkys have invested in the club.
Think about what you are saying, we have given Kean far too many chances already, his time is up and until he has gone there is no chance this club will pull together on or off the pitch.
Keen O to Get Kean Out
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12:29pm Tue 7 Aug 12
bluerob wrote:well said , but Kean is on a poor wage and venkys are cheapsakets , they will have looked for replacement
rovertillidie wrote: I feel a lot of people are to content just to moan in their comments and I suppose I may have done my share in the past....lets get real here Kean and co are going nowhere at the moment. No one including me doubts that he should have gone before Christmas last year but for whatever reason he remains so we have to live with it for the present. At the end of last season I felt as low as I have ever been as a Rovers supporter of 40 years and could only see the club going through the divisions back into the mire of the lower leagues BUT I have been slightly encouraged that some structure (Hendry, Agnew and Singh) has been put back into the club, we have made in my opinion some good signings (Best, Nunes, Murphy and Etuhu) unfortunately Best won't feature and that is a shame because I think he would have been a great success and a real handful at this level. We are also looking to add to this list by the way. We have also took a chance on a group of Portuguese youngsters in the hope one or two will come off for the future. Therefore I am willing to give this lot another chance and see where we are after the first 10-15 games. Its so easy to jump on a bandwagon of negativity. I have to say overall I have been surprised at the level of investment as detailed above Venkys have put back in, they have not asset stripped which was my worst fear at the end of last season. I'll be there hopefully enjoying a surprisingly good season at Ewood whilst some so called supporters will be shopping in Blackburn Town Centre with the missus .......now that is a scary thought!! Cut the negative thoughts out your minds, get real and try looking at the facts as detailed above.....yes many many mistakes have been made in the past but lets look at what has happened across close season and take some encouragement that Venkys have invested in the club.I run 2 business and I wish I had customers like you. I could lie to you, not listen to your complaints, sell you poor products and treat you with no respect when you come through my door, and still you would return and pass your hard earned cash in to my hands . Think about what you are saying, we have given Kean far too many chances already, his time is up and until he has gone there is no chance this club will pull together on or off the pitch.
smellthecoffee
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12:30pm Tue 7 Aug 12
dangerous dave wrote:Here Here!!
Probably just a PR stunt with a bid that they knew would not be acceptable plus the fact that the plank Kean went public ensuring the deal wouldn't go through - who knows with this lot of idiots in charge!!!!!!!!
Yes and our opposition are the likes of Barnsley, Peterborough, Watford & co and we'll be hard pressed to keep up with some of these teams with Hendry and our defensive skills leaving a lot to be desired!!!!!
OUT WITH KEAN HENDRY AGNEW SINGH VENKYS.
benal13
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12:35pm Tue 7 Aug 12
rovertillidie wrote:anyone who thnks hendry agnew and singh are going to improve things are deluded you give em another 10 or 15 games but there are another 12000 who have had enough of the cra{ and have not been brainwashed like you,some people will do anything to get away from the wife for a couple of hours try wearing heaphones AND READING A GOOD BOOK you no it makes sense lololololololo!!!
I feel a lot of people are to content just to moan in their comments and I suppose I may have done my share in the past....lets get real here Kean and co are going nowhere at the moment. No one including me doubts that he should have gone before Christmas last year but for whatever reason he remains so we have to live with it for the present.
At the end of last season I felt as low as I have ever been as a Rovers supporter of 40 years and could only see the club going through the divisions back into the mire of the lower leagues BUT I have been slightly encouraged that some structure (Hendry, Agnew and Singh) has been put back into the club, we have made in my opinion some good signings (Best, Nunes, Murphy and Etuhu) unfortunately Best won't feature and that is a shame because I think he would have been a great success and a real handful at this level. We are also looking to add to this list by the way. We have also took a chance on a group of Portuguese youngsters in the hope one or two will come off for the future.
Therefore I am willing to give this lot another chance and see where we are after the first 10-15 games. Its so easy to jump on a bandwagon of negativity. I have to say overall I have been surprised at the level of investment as detailed above Venkys have put back in, they have not asset stripped which was my worst fear at the end of last season.
I'll be there hopefully enjoying a surprisingly good season at Ewood whilst some so called supporters will be shopping in Blackburn Town Centre with the missus .......now that is a scary thought!!
Cut the negative thoughts out your minds, get real and try looking at the facts as detailed above.....yes many many mistakes have been made in the past but lets look at what has happened across close season and take some encouragement that Venkys have invested in the club.
RUinsane
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12:36pm Tue 7 Aug 12
Kermit The Frog wrote:Hey up, looks like an uddersfield supporter felt that incensed that he created a log in just to comment??? I suppose its only natural when a far bigger club comes sniffing round your table, picking all the best bits and leaving you with sprouts.
givet82 wrote:Oh the arrogance, have a look at the fledgling Championship table - you will find that amazingly enough Blackburn are now in the same division as Huddersfield Town and therefore are RIVALS.
Worrying times when huddersfield consider us rivals, also i think going public is most of the time a decent tactical move to land a player IF you are a big blub with massive intentions, unfortunetly for Rovers Rhodes will not consider us a massive step up so probably won't force a move!
The days of Man Utd being your rivals are over sunshine - get with the programme.
FannyTickler
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12:37pm Tue 7 Aug 12
Lancs - pensioner
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12:37pm Tue 7 Aug 12
RUinsane
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12:40pm Tue 7 Aug 12
Roy Race wrote:Premier league glory boy with no natcho's
Lancs - pensioner wrote:Join me on the beach LP!
Well well, what did I say 3 weeks ago Rhodes will never come to this circus, there chairman is backing his manager and club, they dont need to sell, there clubs in profit,and being run by good honest people who care about there club. Need I go on, it was NEVER going to happen, keep putting bids in that are unexceptable is just cheap publicity. Notice we managed to sign all the freebys with no problems. No you can fool some of the people some of the time but after 18 months of the same things happening you get used to Bull Sh!t coming out of Ewood. Another couple of examples if I remember correctly, We need to hit the ground running and get the players we want in early. We are serious when talking about Beckham, Ronaldo, Bull Sh!t and More Bull sh!t And b4 anyone says it, yes I got out of bed the wrong side this morning.
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One of the 12,000 signing off for good. Time to move on rather than suffer these fools anymore LP.
A Darener
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12:46pm Tue 7 Aug 12
FannyTickler wrote:Change the record, the needles stuck!
Kean in.
A Darener
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12:50pm Tue 7 Aug 12
Rovers 1495
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12:54pm Tue 7 Aug 12
rarubbish wrote:Even when we were getting f*ckall from The Walkers Trust, we could still rustle up 6m for Kalinic; I hate those stingy f*cking chicken shaggers
£6M bid from Blackburn,get real everyone.
We were never in the hunt for Rhodes
more smoke screens from the clowns at Rovers
BJS
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12:54pm Tue 7 Aug 12
Rovers 1495
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12:56pm Tue 7 Aug 12
davemal wrote:Everyone has a price, just depends whether people are will (and able) to pay it
Rovers won't have offered the money Huddersfield want. Why sell him to a rival club? can't blam them for saying that and why should Rhodes stay in the championship when premier league clubs are said t be after him, I know what I'd do if I were in his shoes.
nearly sane
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12:57pm Tue 7 Aug 12
rovertillidie
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12:59pm Tue 7 Aug 12
benal13 wrote:I have certainly not been brainwashed. The situation is we either support the team or we don't and find something else to do. I still no matter how unpalatable it maybe to have Kean on the sidelines prefer to watch my team on a Saturday afternoon or whenever they play than to sit at home reading a good book!!
rovertillidie wrote: I feel a lot of people are to content just to moan in their comments and I suppose I may have done my share in the past....lets get real here Kean and co are going nowhere at the moment. No one including me doubts that he should have gone before Christmas last year but for whatever reason he remains so we have to live with it for the present. At the end of last season I felt as low as I have ever been as a Rovers supporter of 40 years and could only see the club going through the divisions back into the mire of the lower leagues BUT I have been slightly encouraged that some structure (Hendry, Agnew and Singh) has been put back into the club, we have made in my opinion some good signings (Best, Nunes, Murphy and Etuhu) unfortunately Best won't feature and that is a shame because I think he would have been a great success and a real handful at this level. We are also looking to add to this list by the way. We have also took a chance on a group of Portuguese youngsters in the hope one or two will come off for the future. Therefore I am willing to give this lot another chance and see where we are after the first 10-15 games. Its so easy to jump on a bandwagon of negativity. I have to say overall I have been surprised at the level of investment as detailed above Venkys have put back in, they have not asset stripped which was my worst fear at the end of last season. I'll be there hopefully enjoying a surprisingly good season at Ewood whilst some so called supporters will be shopping in Blackburn Town Centre with the missus .......now that is a scary thought!! Cut the negative thoughts out your minds, get real and try looking at the facts as detailed above.....yes many many mistakes have been made in the past but lets look at what has happened across close season and take some encouragement that Venkys have invested in the club.anyone who thnks hendry agnew and singh are going to improve things are deluded you give em another 10 or 15 games but there are another 12000 who have had enough of the cra{ and have not been brainwashed like you,some people will do anything to get away from the wife for a couple of hours try wearing heaphones AND READING A GOOD BOOK you no it makes sense lololololololo!!!
All I am saying in my post is that Venkys HAVE invested in the club across the close season and tried to put some structure in place so they have reacted to the criticism labeeled at them and deserve a chance to put things right....last chance saloon that said!
Rovers 1495
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1:02pm Tue 7 Aug 12
gleechy wrote:Or ... I'm not a pheasant plucker, I'm a pheasant plucker's son, I'm only plucking pheasants till the pheasant plucker comes ...
Lancs - pensioner wrote:Me too, now Mathew try saying out kean really fast..
givet82 wrote:Got to agree with Givet MathewC, your best post yet.
MatthewCA wrote: Nicklas Bendtner is available if he is fine to play in championship with blackburn.That is without doubt matthew the most sensible posts you have ever made, don't think he will lower himself though especially with his ego
A Darener
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1:05pm Tue 7 Aug 12
penemo
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1:06pm Tue 7 Aug 12
Well done Kean another batch of lies and Shebby please note Rhodes like a lot of other players do not want to play for this incompetent manager.
For goodness sake get this plonker out of my club so i and thousand of others can renew our st.
buzzinfly
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1:10pm Tue 7 Aug 12
Kiltedjock wrote:There will be more street parties in Blackburn than there were for the Queens Jubilee when he's sacked.
Can I pay to have Ewood painted in "gold" and have a stamp issued when SK is sacked!!
moh
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1:15pm Tue 7 Aug 12
rovertillidie wrote:I agree, shebby and venkys have put some sort of structure and invested in some players considering drop in revenue for being in championship.
benal13 wrote:I have certainly not been brainwashed. The situation is we either support the team or we don't and find something else to do. I still no matter how unpalatable it maybe to have Kean on the sidelines prefer to watch my team on a Saturday afternoon or whenever they play than to sit at home reading a good book!! All I am saying in my post is that Venkys HAVE invested in the club across the close season and tried to put some structure in place so they have reacted to the criticism labeeled at them and deserve a chance to put things right....last chance saloon that said!rovertillidie wrote: I feel a lot of people are to content just to moan in their comments and I suppose I may have done my share in the past....lets get real here Kean and co are going nowhere at the moment. No one including me doubts that he should have gone before Christmas last year but for whatever reason he remains so we have to live with it for the present. At the end of last season I felt as low as I have ever been as a Rovers supporter of 40 years and could only see the club going through the divisions back into the mire of the lower leagues BUT I have been slightly encouraged that some structure (Hendry, Agnew and Singh) has been put back into the club, we have made in my opinion some good signings (Best, Nunes, Murphy and Etuhu) unfortunately Best won't feature and that is a shame because I think he would have been a great success and a real handful at this level. We are also looking to add to this list by the way. We have also took a chance on a group of Portuguese youngsters in the hope one or two will come off for the future. Therefore I am willing to give this lot another chance and see where we are after the first 10-15 games. Its so easy to jump on a bandwagon of negativity. I have to say overall I have been surprised at the level of investment as detailed above Venkys have put back in, they have not asset stripped which was my worst fear at the end of last season. I'll be there hopefully enjoying a surprisingly good season at Ewood whilst some so called supporters will be shopping in Blackburn Town Centre with the missus .......now that is a scary thought!! Cut the negative thoughts out your minds, get real and try looking at the facts as detailed above.....yes many many mistakes have been made in the past but lets look at what has happened across close season and take some encouragement that Venkys have invested in the club.anyone who thnks hendry agnew and singh are going to improve things are deluded you give em another 10 or 15 games but there are another 12000 who have had enough of the cra{ and have not been brainwashed like you,some people will do anything to get away from the wife for a couple of hours try wearing heaphones AND READING A GOOD BOOK you no it makes sense lololololololo!!!
1riversider
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1:21pm Tue 7 Aug 12
When are Walter Mitty ad the Three Stooges going to address the problems at the back? The longer this problem is ignored, the more you have to doubt their their competence, sanity, or intentions.
SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB
dallydally
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1:30pm Tue 7 Aug 12
givet82
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1:33pm Tue 7 Aug 12
A Darener wrote:I don't think huddersfield local paper would be lying. Any Rover who thinks it's a Venky/Kean pr stunt google it first
When will all you fans out there get it into your head that any mention of spending on a player is pure BS. Whilst you are all salivating at the thought of a high profile player coming for millions the club are actually slipping non-entities through the back door. Then when the transfer window shuts they will say oh! dear we tried but were unsuccessful in getting the players we wanted.
oldblue
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1:47pm Tue 7 Aug 12
Rovers play in front ofCouldn't agree more. All you "support our team, come what may" fans are doing us all a disservice. If no home supporters go to Ewood in the first few games, the publicity will be enormous. Changes would have to be made ie Kean would go, in a hurry. Continue to support the team in the current circumstances and you will be supporting them in the Conference within a few years.
lusorover
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1:48pm Tue 7 Aug 12
The boring negative, conspiracy-theory peddling drivel of most posters on here has presumably driven them away. The site has become a refuge for manic depressives.
The fans cannot remove Kean; only Venkys can do that and they may do so if it suits their cause in due course.
The fact that they have made some decent signings may inidcate that they are not prepared to give Kean too long to get results. It is totally irrelevant to them whether I, or any other fans, fail to see why Kean is still there. I can think of no other situation where such failure has been so rewarded.
They may be motivated by stubborness and an inflated sense of pride which does not allow them to accede to the 'Kean Out' demands of the voluble few.
We all want Kean out but Venkys want him in, for the moment at least, so we must deal with it.
In the meantime one can choose to continue to support the team or not..Thankfully freedom-of-choice still exists here.
What I choose to think of as the real, hardcore fans will be there dealing with the situation and getting behind the team as I have been doing, through thick and thin for forty years.
To do otherwise it to allow the likes of Kean and Venkys to run our lives for us and that, for me, is not an option.
Jack Herer
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1:58pm Tue 7 Aug 12
moh wrote:By coming out with statements like "considering drop in revenue for being in championship" shows you aren't a true fan. Everyone knows that the drop in revenue is due to Kean still being there. Only Venkys and their stooges continue to pretend a different reality.
rovertillidie wrote:I agree, shebby and venkys have put some sort of structure and invested in some players considering drop in revenue for being in championship.
benal13 wrote:I have certainly not been brainwashed. The situation is we either support the team or we don't and find something else to do. I still no matter how unpalatable it maybe to have Kean on the sidelines prefer to watch my team on a Saturday afternoon or whenever they play than to sit at home reading a good book!! All I am saying in my post is that Venkys HAVE invested in the club across the close season and tried to put some structure in place so they have reacted to the criticism labeeled at them and deserve a chance to put things right....last chance saloon that said!rovertillidie wrote: I feel a lot of people are to content just to moan in their comments and I suppose I may have done my share in the past....lets get real here Kean and co are going nowhere at the moment. No one including me doubts that he should have gone before Christmas last year but for whatever reason he remains so we have to live with it for the present. At the end of last season I felt as low as I have ever been as a Rovers supporter of 40 years and could only see the club going through the divisions back into the mire of the lower leagues BUT I have been slightly encouraged that some structure (Hendry, Agnew and Singh) has been put back into the club, we have made in my opinion some good signings (Best, Nunes, Murphy and Etuhu) unfortunately Best won't feature and that is a shame because I think he would have been a great success and a real handful at this level. We are also looking to add to this list by the way. We have also took a chance on a group of Portuguese youngsters in the hope one or two will come off for the future. Therefore I am willing to give this lot another chance and see where we are after the first 10-15 games. Its so easy to jump on a bandwagon of negativity. I have to say overall I have been surprised at the level of investment as detailed above Venkys have put back in, they have not asset stripped which was my worst fear at the end of last season. I'll be there hopefully enjoying a surprisingly good season at Ewood whilst some so called supporters will be shopping in Blackburn Town Centre with the missus .......now that is a scary thought!! Cut the negative thoughts out your minds, get real and try looking at the facts as detailed above.....yes many many mistakes have been made in the past but lets look at what has happened across close season and take some encouragement that Venkys have invested in the club.anyone who thnks hendry agnew and singh are going to improve things are deluded you give em another 10 or 15 games but there are another 12000 who have had enough of the cra{ and have not been brainwashed like you,some people will do anything to get away from the wife for a couple of hours try wearing heaphones AND READING A GOOD BOOK you no it makes sense lololololololo!!!
Kean still there = massive drop in revenue
Kean sacked = huge upsurge in revenue
Venkys must know that. Stupidity doesn't wash as an excuse any more. Why they'd rather deliberately see a huge drop in revenue is the great unanswered question, and the reason for all the conspiracy theories.
Anything else they do - structure, investment - it doesn't matter. All that matters to most fans is Kean's continued presence. Like I say Venkys now undoubtedly know this, so why they would rather treat the fans so badly is anyone's guess. It certainly makes a mockery of that guff they came out with the other week about the fans being the most important thing.
The fans clearly aren't the most important thing to the Venkys. Whatever your viewpoint, you cannot deny that.
dangerous dave
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2:02pm Tue 7 Aug 12
rovertillidie
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2:05pm Tue 7 Aug 12
lusorover wrote:I fully agree with this posting and it more or less mirrors my earlier posting.
Those rational posters who understand that Venkys bought the Club for their own reasons and have little or zero interest in what the fans want are few and far between on this site. The boring negative, conspiracy-theory peddling drivel of most posters on here has presumably driven them away. The site has become a refuge for manic depressives. The fans cannot remove Kean; only Venkys can do that and they may do so if it suits their cause in due course. The fact that they have made some decent signings may inidcate that they are not prepared to give Kean too long to get results. It is totally irrelevant to them whether I, or any other fans, fail to see why Kean is still there. I can think of no other situation where such failure has been so rewarded. They may be motivated by stubborness and an inflated sense of pride which does not allow them to accede to the 'Kean Out' demands of the voluble few. We all want Kean out but Venkys want him in, for the moment at least, so we must deal with it. In the meantime one can choose to continue to support the team or not..Thankfully freedom-of-choice still exists here. What I choose to think of as the real, hardcore fans will be there dealing with the situation and getting behind the team as I have been doing, through thick and thin for forty years. To do otherwise it to allow the likes of Kean and Venkys to run our lives for us and that, for me, is not an option.
The good news coming out of all you other serial "doom and gloomers" not renewing your season tickets is that I have moved my four to a central position in the Blackburn End. Thanks!
Come on you Blues i can't wait to get back to Ewood to see what the new team can do this year. If it doesn't work out then I will voice my opinion at the games not on a newspaper website like some losers do on here.
Jack Herer
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2:08pm Tue 7 Aug 12
lusorover wrote:Again you clearly aren't a fan or don't actually speak to other fans. You certainly don't speak for hardcore fans. There can be no question about that. So stop pretending that you do.
Those rational posters who understand that Venkys bought the Club for their own reasons and have little or zero interest in what the fans want are few and far between on this site.
The boring negative, conspiracy-theory peddling drivel of most posters on here has presumably driven them away. The site has become a refuge for manic depressives.
The fans cannot remove Kean; only Venkys can do that and they may do so if it suits their cause in due course.
The fact that they have made some decent signings may inidcate that they are not prepared to give Kean too long to get results. It is totally irrelevant to them whether I, or any other fans, fail to see why Kean is still there. I can think of no other situation where such failure has been so rewarded.
They may be motivated by stubborness and an inflated sense of pride which does not allow them to accede to the 'Kean Out' demands of the voluble few.
We all want Kean out but Venkys want him in, for the moment at least, so we must deal with it.
In the meantime one can choose to continue to support the team or not..Thankfully freedom-of-choice still exists here.
What I choose to think of as the real, hardcore fans will be there dealing with the situation and getting behind the team as I have been doing, through thick and thin for forty years.
To do otherwise it to allow the likes of Kean and Venkys to run our lives for us and that, for me, is not an option.
Loads of hardcore fans I know - proper decades following Rovers through thick and thin - they have all made a difficult decision not to follow Rovers whilst the owners are treating them so disgustingly.
By going to Rovers you are letting Kean run your life. Whilst thousands and thousands of fans - the hardest of the hardcore - are the ones who have decided that they are no longer willing to let Kean run their lives by not going to the match.
I have no doubt that you are a Venkys stooge though when you claim that the 'Kean Out' demands are from the "voluble few". Go away eh you bellend - the 'Kean Out' demands are from the whole of Blackburn. Whether they attend the match or not, everyone is united in that demand.
French Rover
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2:11pm Tue 7 Aug 12
It is quite interesting:
under the WT during 2008-2010 we spent 24 million and got 41 million in. So we made plus 17 million in that period on transfers.
under the Venkys 2010 to 2012 YTD we spent 13.8 million and got in 24 million. So we made plus 10.2 million in this period on transfers.
So the WT is 5 million up on Venkys currently on their sales v spend.
I expect we will sell at least two players shortly - for around 7-8 million but then we will also buy a couple of players before the season starts for maybe 5 million.
So on transfers in and out of Ewood over the last four seasons the ledger is almost even between the V's and the WT.
The asset stripping theory then only works then if we believe that the players that we bring in now are inferior to the ones we sold. But then that goes as much for the WT transactions as it does for the V's....
Interesting eh....not sure what it all means except I wish we still had Jack Walker in charge!
RUinsane
says...
2:12pm Tue 7 Aug 12
Well I'm going because I'm not a premier league glory boy and support my theam through thick and thin. These times are thin, and you guys are the thick.
Only supporting your so called team when you're in the PL= premier league glory boys. Grow some natcho's and stop behaving like a bunch of spoilt brats.
Kean out for sure, but you guys can go bargain hunting at lidle while I'm taking in a game or two and eating a pie.
dangerous dave
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2:12pm Tue 7 Aug 12
!!!!
OUT WITH KEAN AGNEW SINGH HENDRY VENKYS
SadRover
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2:13pm Tue 7 Aug 12
Venkys and Kean are here for what they can get. To continue to attend for whatever reason is misguided at best. To suggest it makes you a hardcore fan is a joke.
It pains me not to renew my ST and there is nowhere else I would rather be on matchday than at Ewood. That said I am putting the good of the club ahead of my own desire to be there. As numerous people on here have stated if no one turned up the media explosion would shame even Kean and Venky's into taking action.
People like you who turn up simply help sustain this regime. If you think that makes you a hardcore support then heaven help us.
RUinsane
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2:17pm Tue 7 Aug 12
Staunch thick and thin supporter, or Premier league glory hunter, what's the verdict???
kenbro
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2:20pm Tue 7 Aug 12
We cannot say any of those things today.
rovertillidie
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2:22pm Tue 7 Aug 12
dangerous dave wrote:The difference is I am trying to be constructive and balance out the "doom and gloom and conspiracy theorists"
ROVERTILLIDIE - it seems to me that you are already voicing your opinion on this site or is someone else doing it for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!! OUT WITH KEAN AGNEW SINGH HENDRY VENKYS
Your strapline is a bit flawed get rid of all of them and who will replace them? Sounds a "dangerous" strategy to me!
Dan11
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2:24pm Tue 7 Aug 12
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Another well known paper, is reporting a 2 million bid with 2 million add ons. Hardly in the region of 6 million is it now.
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Thats it Andy keep on repeating what the Venkys tell you. Well Done Andy, you might get paid.
oldblue
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2:25pm Tue 7 Aug 12
lusorover wrote:Sure you have, and should have, freedom of choice to go or not go. Like many others I have been attending matches at Ewood for decades but despair at seeing our once proud club reduced to it's current state and have decided that the most effective statement I can make is to stay away for the time being. If I go I will be supporting the cynical bunch of asset strippers currently in charge, who will be encouraged by decent crowds and the money spent. They will therefore be around longer. You do that if you want to. Your choice.
Those rational posters who understand that Venkys bought the Club for their own reasons and have little or zero interest in what the fans want are few and far between on this site.
The boring negative, conspiracy-theory peddling drivel of most posters on here has presumably driven them away. The site has become a refuge for manic depressives.
The fans cannot remove Kean; only Venkys can do that and they may do so if it suits their cause in due course.
The fact that they have made some decent signings may inidcate that they are not prepared to give Kean too long to get results. It is totally irrelevant to them whether I, or any other fans, fail to see why Kean is still there. I can think of no other situation where such failure has been so rewarded.
They may be motivated by stubborness and an inflated sense of pride which does not allow them to accede to the 'Kean Out' demands of the voluble few.
We all want Kean out but Venkys want him in, for the moment at least, so we must deal with it.
In the meantime one can choose to continue to support the team or not..Thankfully freedom-of-choice still exists here.
What I choose to think of as the real, hardcore fans will be there dealing with the situation and getting behind the team as I have been doing, through thick and thin for forty years.
To do otherwise it to allow the likes of Kean and Venkys to run our lives for us and that, for me, is not an option.
Jack Herer
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2:25pm Tue 7 Aug 12
rovertillidie wrote:Your new seating position suggests that Rovers have lost at least half their season ticket holders this year. What a disgrace eh, all by stubborn behaviour from the owners, who all the while are sticking two fingers up to the fans.
lusorover wrote:I fully agree with this posting and it more or less mirrors my earlier posting.
Those rational posters who understand that Venkys bought the Club for their own reasons and have little or zero interest in what the fans want are few and far between on this site. The boring negative, conspiracy-theory peddling drivel of most posters on here has presumably driven them away. The site has become a refuge for manic depressives. The fans cannot remove Kean; only Venkys can do that and they may do so if it suits their cause in due course. The fact that they have made some decent signings may inidcate that they are not prepared to give Kean too long to get results. It is totally irrelevant to them whether I, or any other fans, fail to see why Kean is still there. I can think of no other situation where such failure has been so rewarded. They may be motivated by stubborness and an inflated sense of pride which does not allow them to accede to the 'Kean Out' demands of the voluble few. We all want Kean out but Venkys want him in, for the moment at least, so we must deal with it. In the meantime one can choose to continue to support the team or not..Thankfully freedom-of-choice still exists here. What I choose to think of as the real, hardcore fans will be there dealing with the situation and getting behind the team as I have been doing, through thick and thin for forty years. To do otherwise it to allow the likes of Kean and Venkys to run our lives for us and that, for me, is not an option.
The good news coming out of all you other serial "doom and gloomers" not renewing your season tickets is that I have moved my four to a central position in the Blackburn End. Thanks!
Come on you Blues i can't wait to get back to Ewood to see what the new team can do this year. If it doesn't work out then I will voice my opinion at the games not on a newspaper website like some losers do on here.
A double disgrace is fans like you having a go at those who haven't renewed. If you were a real fan then you'd know some of these people personally. You'd know that they weren't "doom and gloomers", but far from it, they are actually just normal decent people, and hardcore serious Rovers fans. You clearly aren't a fan when you call these people losers therefore. You actually don't know these people at all. But that's because there's no way you are a real fan.
If you think that those renewing are Kean lurvies as well then think again. I'd predict that you'll hear Kean out chants not just at away games, when they'll be remarkable, but also at home games. Venkys need to get used to that fact if they are sticking with Kean. No amount of false fans posting on here will change that. Those renewing want to see the back of Kean just as much as those who haven't.
SadRover
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2:25pm Tue 7 Aug 12
Further look at your own logic, "I can't think of anything else to do on a Saturday" so I will go and support the Venkys and Kean in their systematic dismantling of the club you claim to love. If you really loved Rovers you would put the club first, ever heard of the greater good?
Venkys have had all of their "last chances" by keeping Kean they are laughing in your face. Enjoy that whilst you tuck into your pie. Maybe in January when we are languishing in the bottom have you can get excited when Kean talks about spending big and we make a £2.50 offer for Gareth Bale..........seriou
sly when are people going to realise how bad things really are and stop thinking that it is going to get better.
lusorover
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2:39pm Tue 7 Aug 12
If 10000 people were to fail to buy a season ticket because of Kean / Venkys the financial hit to the Club would be only about 2.5 million.
Even to a financially-struggli
ng Club such as Rovers this is nothing and is easily recouped in player sales..
Please stop using the excuse of forcing Venkys arm for staying away.
If you don't want to watch your team then don't watch but don't pretend that your decision is born of some higher motive.
The atmosphere at the ground will be vastly improved if the moaners stay away.
It's football; it's our team. Ignore Kean. Have the strength of character to rise above the fact that we currently have a failure as a manager. It's not the first time and it certaily won't be the last.
If you truly believe that the Club is about the fans I suggest that you get yourselves down to Ewood and get behind the team so that you can have pride when Kean has gone and be able to say "I saw it through, Kean and Venks didn't stop me from supporting my team."
RUinsane
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2:40pm Tue 7 Aug 12
SadRover wrote:Sorry, but a staunch thick and thin supporter, like me, will go and watch my team in its hour of need. I too have watched them in lower divisions and so I refuse to get bullied by the premier league glory boys into deserting my team. You are far too easily persauded and seem to be lacking stomach and a backbone.
Ruinsane - I love your constant reference to Premier league glory hunter etc. I like most of the long term fans on had ST's at Rovers long before the Premier League existed when glory meant the final of the Full Members Cup. So please grow up.
Further look at your own logic, "I can't think of anything else to do on a Saturday" so I will go and support the Venkys and Kean in their systematic dismantling of the club you claim to love. If you really loved Rovers you would put the club first, ever heard of the greater good?
Venkys have had all of their "last chances" by keeping Kean they are laughing in your face. Enjoy that whilst you tuck into your pie. Maybe in January when we are languishing in the bottom have you can get excited when Kean talks about spending big and we make a £2.50 offer for Gareth Bale..........seriou
sly when are people going to realise how bad things really are and stop thinking that it is going to get better.
Is the saying, when the going gets tough, the tough spit out the dummy and go shopping instead?
As I said, whats BRAG and BRISTS view on all this desertion?
benal13
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2:46pm Tue 7 Aug 12
French Rover wrote:no i dont think anybody knows what it means
I just had a look at the Rovers transfer history over the two most recent periods 2008-2010 (Walker Trust) and 2010-2012 (Venky's) - as someone told me there was a massive difference in what we got in versus what we spent now under the V's against what we did under the WT.
It is quite interesting:
under the WT during 2008-2010 we spent 24 million and got 41 million in. So we made plus 17 million in that period on transfers.
under the Venkys 2010 to 2012 YTD we spent 13.8 million and got in 24 million. So we made plus 10.2 million in this period on transfers.
So the WT is 5 million up on Venkys currently on their sales v spend.
I expect we will sell at least two players shortly - for around 7-8 million but then we will also buy a couple of players before the season starts for maybe 5 million.
So on transfers in and out of Ewood over the last four seasons the ledger is almost even between the V's and the WT.
The asset stripping theory then only works then if we believe that the players that we bring in now are inferior to the ones we sold. But then that goes as much for the WT transactions as it does for the V's....
Interesting eh....not sure what it all means except I wish we still had Jack Walker in charge!
Lancs - pensioner
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2:49pm Tue 7 Aug 12
RUinsane wrote:RUinsane, nothing new from you then, just the usual slagging off, no debate, god your boring!
Roy Race wrote:Premier league glory boy with no natcho'sLancs - pensioner wrote: Well well, what did I say 3 weeks ago Rhodes will never come to this circus, there chairman is backing his manager and club, they dont need to sell, there clubs in profit,and being run by good honest people who care about there club. Need I go on, it was NEVER going to happen, keep putting bids in that are unexceptable is just cheap publicity. Notice we managed to sign all the freebys with no problems. No you can fool some of the people some of the time but after 18 months of the same things happening you get used to Bull Sh!t coming out of Ewood. Another couple of examples if I remember correctly, We need to hit the ground running and get the players we want in early. We are serious when talking about Beckham, Ronaldo, Bull Sh!t and More Bull sh!t And b4 anyone says it, yes I got out of bed the wrong side this morning.Join me on the beach LP! . One of the 12,000 signing off for good. Time to move on rather than suffer these fools anymore LP.
Why does everyone who disagrees with you have to be a PLGB,
Port Vale away, great game
Tony Fields goal from the half way line great goal
No I am not a PLGB just some one with a few more brain cells than you who likes a good (sometimes funny) debate.
gleechy
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2:50pm Tue 7 Aug 12
lusorover wrote:Almost, just back to front, to sustain support for conmen is to add creedence to a faulty setup, and will prolong the agony of real supporters, but, at least they have used their choice to starve the pirates of a full stadium. try not to see jsut yourself as doing the right thing, you'll only look stupid when the truth comes out.
Those rational posters who understand that Venkys bought the Club for their own reasons and have little or zero interest in what the fans want are few and far between on this site.
The boring negative, conspiracy-theory peddling drivel of most posters on here has presumably driven them away. The site has become a refuge for manic depressives.
The fans cannot remove Kean; only Venkys can do that and they may do so if it suits their cause in due course.
The fact that they have made some decent signings may inidcate that they are not prepared to give Kean too long to get results. It is totally irrelevant to them whether I, or any other fans, fail to see why Kean is still there. I can think of no other situation where such failure has been so rewarded.
They may be motivated by stubborness and an inflated sense of pride which does not allow them to accede to the 'Kean Out' demands of the voluble few.
We all want Kean out but Venkys want him in, for the moment at least, so we must deal with it.
In the meantime one can choose to continue to support the team or not..Thankfully freedom-of-choice still exists here.
What I choose to think of as the real, hardcore fans will be there dealing with the situation and getting behind the team as I have been doing, through thick and thin for forty years.
To do otherwise it to allow the likes of Kean and Venkys to run our lives for us and that, for me, is not an option.
gleechy
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2:57pm Tue 7 Aug 12
rovertillidie wrote:I'd like to see you voicing your opinion against the people you paid up front, then them frogmarching you out of the gates, and saying thank you for your cash.
lusorover wrote:I fully agree with this posting and it more or less mirrors my earlier posting.
Those rational posters who understand that Venkys bought the Club for their own reasons and have little or zero interest in what the fans want are few and far between on this site. The boring negative, conspiracy-theory peddling drivel of most posters on here has presumably driven them away. The site has become a refuge for manic depressives. The fans cannot remove Kean; only Venkys can do that and they may do so if it suits their cause in due course. The fact that they have made some decent signings may inidcate that they are not prepared to give Kean too long to get results. It is totally irrelevant to them whether I, or any other fans, fail to see why Kean is still there. I can think of no other situation where such failure has been so rewarded. They may be motivated by stubborness and an inflated sense of pride which does not allow them to accede to the 'Kean Out' demands of the voluble few. We all want Kean out but Venkys want him in, for the moment at least, so we must deal with it. In the meantime one can choose to continue to support the team or not..Thankfully freedom-of-choice still exists here. What I choose to think of as the real, hardcore fans will be there dealing with the situation and getting behind the team as I have been doing, through thick and thin for forty years. To do otherwise it to allow the likes of Kean and Venkys to run our lives for us and that, for me, is not an option.
The good news coming out of all you other serial "doom and gloomers" not renewing your season tickets is that I have moved my four to a central position in the Blackburn End. Thanks!
Come on you Blues i can't wait to get back to Ewood to see what the new team can do this year. If it doesn't work out then I will voice my opinion at the games not on a newspaper website like some losers do on here.
It's not made up, we really have a bad set of thieves in charge, and they really do not care what you think about it. so if they don't like your attitude you will leave, then your freedom of choice will be limited.
Rovers 1495
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2:58pm Tue 7 Aug 12
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Seriously, what a bunch of tight-a*sed w*nkers, just clear off and concentrate on your chicken nuggets. B*stards.
SadRover
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2:58pm Tue 7 Aug 12
RUinsane wrote:Ruisane - it is a free country after all. You go for it fella. In a few years time when the club is on the verge of disappearing into the abyss you can say "I helped do that, what a great fan I am".
SadRover wrote: Ruinsane - I love your constant reference to Premier league glory hunter etc. I like most of the long term fans on had ST's at Rovers long before the Premier League existed when glory meant the final of the Full Members Cup. So please grow up. Further look at your own logic, "I can't think of anything else to do on a Saturday" so I will go and support the Venkys and Kean in their systematic dismantling of the club you claim to love. If you really loved Rovers you would put the club first, ever heard of the greater good? Venkys have had all of their "last chances" by keeping Kean they are laughing in your face. Enjoy that whilst you tuck into your pie. Maybe in January when we are languishing in the bottom have you can get excited when Kean talks about spending big and we make a £2.50 offer for Gareth Bale..........seriou sly when are people going to realise how bad things really are and stop thinking that it is going to get better.Sorry, but a staunch thick and thin supporter, like me, will go and watch my team in its hour of need. I too have watched them in lower divisions and so I refuse to get bullied by the premier league glory boys into deserting my team. You are far too easily persauded and seem to be lacking stomach and a backbone. Is the saying, when the going gets tough, the tough spit out the dummy and go shopping instead? As I said, whats BRAG and BRISTS view on all this desertion?
Stomach and backbone allow you to make hard decisions like not going to the see the team you love. Looks like you are lacking in both.
French Rover
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2:59pm Tue 7 Aug 12
benal13 wrote:what it means is that if you take Kean out (please) then there is no significant 'fiscal -monetry' difference between what the WT did and what the Venkys are doing on transfers. Which surprised me (if not you).
French Rover wrote:no i dont think anybody knows what it means
I just had a look at the Rovers transfer history over the two most recent periods 2008-2010 (Walker Trust) and 2010-2012 (Venky's) - as someone told me there was a massive difference in what we got in versus what we spent now under the V's against what we did under the WT.
It is quite interesting:
under the WT during 2008-2010 we spent 24 million and got 41 million in. So we made plus 17 million in that period on transfers.
under the Venkys 2010 to 2012 YTD we spent 13.8 million and got in 24 million. So we made plus 10.2 million in this period on transfers.
So the WT is 5 million up on Venkys currently on their sales v spend.
I expect we will sell at least two players shortly - for around 7-8 million but then we will also buy a couple of players before the season starts for maybe 5 million.
So on transfers in and out of Ewood over the last four seasons the ledger is almost even between the V's and the WT.
The asset stripping theory then only works then if we believe that the players that we bring in now are inferior to the ones we sold. But then that goes as much for the WT transactions as it does for the V's....
Interesting eh....not sure what it all means except I wish we still had Jack Walker in charge!
gleechy
says...
3:01pm Tue 7 Aug 12
French Rover wrote:When Wt were in charge the Prem was sustainable, it is only dreamland with the current setup.
I just had a look at the Rovers transfer history over the two most recent periods 2008-2010 (Walker Trust) and 2010-2012 (Venky's) - as someone told me there was a massive difference in what we got in versus what we spent now under the V's against what we did under the WT.
It is quite interesting:
under the WT during 2008-2010 we spent 24 million and got 41 million in. So we made plus 17 million in that period on transfers.
under the Venkys 2010 to 2012 YTD we spent 13.8 million and got in 24 million. So we made plus 10.2 million in this period on transfers.
So the WT is 5 million up on Venkys currently on their sales v spend.
I expect we will sell at least two players shortly - for around 7-8 million but then we will also buy a couple of players before the season starts for maybe 5 million.
So on transfers in and out of Ewood over the last four seasons the ledger is almost even between the V's and the WT.
The asset stripping theory then only works then if we believe that the players that we bring in now are inferior to the ones we sold. But then that goes as much for the WT transactions as it does for the V's....
Interesting eh....not sure what it all means except I wish we still had Jack Walker in charge!
benal13
says...
3:04pm Tue 7 Aug 12
Lancs - pensioner wrote:i agree LP but i came to the conclusion ages ago that RUinsane IS
RUinsane wrote:RUinsane, nothing new from you then, just the usual slagging off, no debate, god your boring!
Roy Race wrote:Premier league glory boy with no natcho'sLancs - pensioner wrote: Well well, what did I say 3 weeks ago Rhodes will never come to this circus, there chairman is backing his manager and club, they dont need to sell, there clubs in profit,and being run by good honest people who care about there club. Need I go on, it was NEVER going to happen, keep putting bids in that are unexceptable is just cheap publicity. Notice we managed to sign all the freebys with no problems. No you can fool some of the people some of the time but after 18 months of the same things happening you get used to Bull Sh!t coming out of Ewood. Another couple of examples if I remember correctly, We need to hit the ground running and get the players we want in early. We are serious when talking about Beckham, Ronaldo, Bull Sh!t and More Bull sh!t And b4 anyone says it, yes I got out of bed the wrong side this morning.Join me on the beach LP! . One of the 12,000 signing off for good. Time to move on rather than suffer these fools anymore LP.
Why does everyone who disagrees with you have to be a PLGB,
Port Vale away, great game
Tony Fields goal from the half way line great goal
No I am not a PLGB just some one with a few more brain cells than you who likes a good (sometimes funny) debate.
Rovers 1495
says...
3:05pm Tue 7 Aug 12
French Rover wrote:Err,
I just had a look at the Rovers transfer history over the two most recent periods 2008-2010 (Walker Trust) and 2010-2012 (Venky's) - as someone told me there was a massive difference in what we got in versus what we spent now under the V's against what we did under the WT.
It is quite interesting:
under the WT during 2008-2010 we spent 24 million and got 41 million in. So we made plus 17 million in that period on transfers.
under the Venkys 2010 to 2012 YTD we spent 13.8 million and got in 24 million. So we made plus 10.2 million in this period on transfers.
So the WT is 5 million up on Venkys currently on their sales v spend.
I expect we will sell at least two players shortly - for around 7-8 million but then we will also buy a couple of players before the season starts for maybe 5 million.
So on transfers in and out of Ewood over the last four seasons the ledger is almost even between the V's and the WT.
The asset stripping theory then only works then if we believe that the players that we bring in now are inferior to the ones we sold. But then that goes as much for the WT transactions as it does for the V's....
Interesting eh....not sure what it all means except I wish we still had Jack Walker in charge!
Samba vs Petrovic,
Samba vs Ribeiro,
Samba vs Anderson
Any point going on ?
givet82
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3:07pm Tue 7 Aug 12
French Rover wrote:Exellent posting FR, i already guessed this info but for some posters i hope it puts things in perspective! The only serious mistake Venkys are making at the minute is giving Kean another chance, im sure it won't last too long with a better infustructure than last season(well we hope)
benal13 wrote:what it means is that if you take Kean out (please) then there is no significant 'fiscal -monetry' difference between what the WT did and what the Venkys are doing on transfers. Which surprised me (if not you).
French Rover wrote:no i dont think anybody knows what it means
I just had a look at the Rovers transfer history over the two most recent periods 2008-2010 (Walker Trust) and 2010-2012 (Venky's) - as someone told me there was a massive difference in what we got in versus what we spent now under the V's against what we did under the WT.
It is quite interesting:
under the WT during 2008-2010 we spent 24 million and got 41 million in. So we made plus 17 million in that period on transfers.
under the Venkys 2010 to 2012 YTD we spent 13.8 million and got in 24 million. So we made plus 10.2 million in this period on transfers.
So the WT is 5 million up on Venkys currently on their sales v spend.
I expect we will sell at least two players shortly - for around 7-8 million but then we will also buy a couple of players before the season starts for maybe 5 million.
So on transfers in and out of Ewood over the last four seasons the ledger is almost even between the V's and the WT.
The asset stripping theory then only works then if we believe that the players that we bring in now are inferior to the ones we sold. But then that goes as much for the WT transactions as it does for the V's....
Interesting eh....not sure what it all means except I wish we still had Jack Walker in charge!
unclejacklegend
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3:23pm Tue 7 Aug 12
givet82 wrote:Rubbish post. Doesn't take into account the sacking or freezing out of everybody on a decent wage. From staff to players, John Williams to Nelsen and salgado. Pretty sure the sales of jones and samba alone added up to more than 24 million anyway.
French Rover wrote:Exellent posting FR, i already guessed this info but for some posters i hope it puts things in perspective! The only serious mistake Venkys are making at the minute is giving Kean another chance, im sure it won't last too long with a better infustructure than last season(well we hope)
benal13 wrote:what it means is that if you take Kean out (please) then there is no significant 'fiscal -monetry' difference between what the WT did and what the Venkys are doing on transfers. Which surprised me (if not you).
French Rover wrote:no i dont think anybody knows what it means
I just had a look at the Rovers transfer history over the two most recent periods 2008-2010 (Walker Trust) and 2010-2012 (Venky's) - as someone told me there was a massive difference in what we got in versus what we spent now under the V's against what we did under the WT.
It is quite interesting:
under the WT during 2008-2010 we spent 24 million and got 41 million in. So we made plus 17 million in that period on transfers.
under the Venkys 2010 to 2012 YTD we spent 13.8 million and got in 24 million. So we made plus 10.2 million in this period on transfers.
So the WT is 5 million up on Venkys currently on their sales v spend.
I expect we will sell at least two players shortly - for around 7-8 million but then we will also buy a couple of players before the season starts for maybe 5 million.
So on transfers in and out of Ewood over the last four seasons the ledger is almost even between the V's and the WT.
The asset stripping theory then only works then if we believe that the players that we bring in now are inferior to the ones we sold. But then that goes as much for the WT transactions as it does for the V's....
Interesting eh....not sure what it all means except I wish we still had Jack Walker in charge!
chadders2000
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3:27pm Tue 7 Aug 12
rovertillidie
says...
3:28pm Tue 7 Aug 12
Jack Herer wrote:Kean out chants will only be heard if the team do not perform once more....in which case I firmly believe and hope that the pressure would then be on him big style and Venkys would finally make the change.
rovertillidie wrote:Your new seating position suggests that Rovers have lost at least half their season ticket holders this year. What a disgrace eh, all by stubborn behaviour from the owners, who all the while are sticking two fingers up to the fans. A double disgrace is fans like you having a go at those who haven't renewed. If you were a real fan then you'd know some of these people personally. You'd know that they weren't "doom and gloomers", but far from it, they are actually just normal decent people, and hardcore serious Rovers fans. You clearly aren't a fan when you call these people losers therefore. You actually don't know these people at all. But that's because there's no way you are a real fan. If you think that those renewing are Kean lurvies as well then think again. I'd predict that you'll hear Kean out chants not just at away games, when they'll be remarkable, but also at home games. Venkys need to get used to that fact if they are sticking with Kean. No amount of false fans posting on here will change that. Those renewing want to see the back of Kean just as much as those who haven't.lusorover wrote: Those rational posters who understand that Venkys bought the Club for their own reasons and have little or zero interest in what the fans want are few and far between on this site. The boring negative, conspiracy-theory peddling drivel of most posters on here has presumably driven them away. The site has become a refuge for manic depressives. The fans cannot remove Kean; only Venkys can do that and they may do so if it suits their cause in due course. The fact that they have made some decent signings may inidcate that they are not prepared to give Kean too long to get results. It is totally irrelevant to them whether I, or any other fans, fail to see why Kean is still there. I can think of no other situation where such failure has been so rewarded. They may be motivated by stubborness and an inflated sense of pride which does not allow them to accede to the 'Kean Out' demands of the voluble few. We all want Kean out but Venkys want him in, for the moment at least, so we must deal with it. In the meantime one can choose to continue to support the team or not..Thankfully freedom-of-choice still exists here. What I choose to think of as the real, hardcore fans will be there dealing with the situation and getting behind the team as I have been doing, through thick and thin for forty years. To do otherwise it to allow the likes of Kean and Venkys to run our lives for us and that, for me, is not an option.I fully agree with this posting and it more or less mirrors my earlier posting. The good news coming out of all you other serial "doom and gloomers" not renewing your season tickets is that I have moved my four to a central position in the Blackburn End. Thanks! Come on you Blues i can't wait to get back to Ewood to see what the new team can do this year. If it doesn't work out then I will voice my opinion at the games not on a newspaper website like some losers do on here.
Get real Venkys have stuck with Kean and it ain't going to change until we are into the new season when one of two things will happen...we will be successful thus pressure off or we will struggle in which case Kean will be history. The question is to all you out there which would you prefer?
And my dear misguided friend I am a supporter because I have purchased my season tickets and will be there to cheer or jeer as is my choice because I have paid my money! The thousands that may have chosen to stay away can only watch listen and hope presumably that the team they once supported struggle.
I say again the owners have surprisingly invested in the club during the close season by taking on the likes of Best, Murphy, Nunes and Etuhu with the promise of more to come and that deserves recognition and support.
RUinsane
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3:30pm Tue 7 Aug 12
benal13 wrote:I'm just flipping the coin, everyone on here calls the renewers, me I don't give a monkeys if you renew or not. I am. But those who renew are always slagged off so I slag those off who do not. I write premier league glory boys for these guys as I know it pushes their buttons. Just as they push mine by attacking those who renew.
Lancs - pensioner wrote:i agree LP but i came to the conclusion ages ago that RUinsane IS
RUinsane wrote:RUinsane, nothing new from you then, just the usual slagging off, no debate, god your boring!
Roy Race wrote:Premier league glory boy with no natcho'sLancs - pensioner wrote: Well well, what did I say 3 weeks ago Rhodes will never come to this circus, there chairman is backing his manager and club, they dont need to sell, there clubs in profit,and being run by good honest people who care about there club. Need I go on, it was NEVER going to happen, keep putting bids in that are unexceptable is just cheap publicity. Notice we managed to sign all the freebys with no problems. No you can fool some of the people some of the time but after 18 months of the same things happening you get used to Bull Sh!t coming out of Ewood. Another couple of examples if I remember correctly, We need to hit the ground running and get the players we want in early. We are serious when talking about Beckham, Ronaldo, Bull Sh!t and More Bull sh!t And b4 anyone says it, yes I got out of bed the wrong side this morning.Join me on the beach LP! . One of the 12,000 signing off for good. Time to move on rather than suffer these fools anymore LP.
Why does everyone who disagrees with you have to be a PLGB,
Port Vale away, great game
Tony Fields goal from the half way line great goal
No I am not a PLGB just some one with a few more brain cells than you who likes a good (sometimes funny) debate.
Take BENAL13 who is a typical premier league glory boy and wants to hide his desertion behind his innability to take relegation like a man. I know you've been here before Lancs and I understand why you are staying away, but what I can't get my head round is those who pick on those who want to go and watch. What difference does it make???
Hey by the way I like the PLGB abreviation I think I'll print a t shirt with,
"I aint no PLGB" with a pic of MR T on it and "Grow some nuts" at the bottom.
Rovers 1495
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3:31pm Tue 7 Aug 12
rovertillidie wrote:Did Kean but you a round last night ?
Jack Herer wrote:Kean out chants will only be heard if the team do not perform once more....in which case I firmly believe and hope that the pressure would then be on him big style and Venkys would finally make the change.
rovertillidie wrote:Your new seating position suggests that Rovers have lost at least half their season ticket holders this year. What a disgrace eh, all by stubborn behaviour from the owners, who all the while are sticking two fingers up to the fans. A double disgrace is fans like you having a go at those who haven't renewed. If you were a real fan then you'd know some of these people personally. You'd know that they weren't "doom and gloomers", but far from it, they are actually just normal decent people, and hardcore serious Rovers fans. You clearly aren't a fan when you call these people losers therefore. You actually don't know these people at all. But that's because there's no way you are a real fan. If you think that those renewing are Kean lurvies as well then think again. I'd predict that you'll hear Kean out chants not just at away games, when they'll be remarkable, but also at home games. Venkys need to get used to that fact if they are sticking with Kean. No amount of false fans posting on here will change that. Those renewing want to see the back of Kean just as much as those who haven't.lusorover wrote: Those rational posters who understand that Venkys bought the Club for their own reasons and have little or zero interest in what the fans want are few and far between on this site. The boring negative, conspiracy-theory peddling drivel of most posters on here has presumably driven them away. The site has become a refuge for manic depressives. The fans cannot remove Kean; only Venkys can do that and they may do so if it suits their cause in due course. The fact that they have made some decent signings may inidcate that they are not prepared to give Kean too long to get results. It is totally irrelevant to them whether I, or any other fans, fail to see why Kean is still there. I can think of no other situation where such failure has been so rewarded. They may be motivated by stubborness and an inflated sense of pride which does not allow them to accede to the 'Kean Out' demands of the voluble few. We all want Kean out but Venkys want him in, for the moment at least, so we must deal with it. In the meantime one can choose to continue to support the team or not..Thankfully freedom-of-choice still exists here. What I choose to think of as the real, hardcore fans will be there dealing with the situation and getting behind the team as I have been doing, through thick and thin for forty years. To do otherwise it to allow the likes of Kean and Venkys to run our lives for us and that, for me, is not an option.I fully agree with this posting and it more or less mirrors my earlier posting. The good news coming out of all you other serial "doom and gloomers" not renewing your season tickets is that I have moved my four to a central position in the Blackburn End. Thanks! Come on you Blues i can't wait to get back to Ewood to see what the new team can do this year. If it doesn't work out then I will voice my opinion at the games not on a newspaper website like some losers do on here.
Get real Venkys have stuck with Kean and it ain't going to change until we are into the new season when one of two things will happen...we will be successful thus pressure off or we will struggle in which case Kean will be history. The question is to all you out there which would you prefer?
And my dear misguided friend I am a supporter because I have purchased my season tickets and will be there to cheer or jeer as is my choice because I have paid my money! The thousands that may have chosen to stay away can only watch listen and hope presumably that the team they once supported struggle.
I say again the owners have surprisingly invested in the club during the close season by taking on the likes of Best, Murphy, Nunes and Etuhu with the promise of more to come and that deserves recognition and support.
1riversider
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3:35pm Tue 7 Aug 12
givet82 wrote:I think you need to check your figures for transfers out.
French Rover wrote:Exellent posting FR, i already guessed this info but for some posters i hope it puts things in perspective! The only serious mistake Venkys are making at the minute is giving Kean another chance, im sure it won't last too long with a better infustructure than last season(well we hope)
benal13 wrote:what it means is that if you take Kean out (please) then there is no significant 'fiscal -monetry' difference between what the WT did and what the Venkys are doing on transfers. Which surprised me (if not you).
French Rover wrote:no i dont think anybody knows what it means
I just had a look at the Rovers transfer history over the two most recent periods 2008-2010 (Walker Trust) and 2010-2012 (Venky's) - as someone told me there was a massive difference in what we got in versus what we spent now under the V's against what we did under the WT.
It is quite interesting:
under the WT during 2008-2010 we spent 24 million and got 41 million in. So we made plus 17 million in that period on transfers.
under the Venkys 2010 to 2012 YTD we spent 13.8 million and got in 24 million. So we made plus 10.2 million in this period on transfers.
So the WT is 5 million up on Venkys currently on their sales v spend.
I expect we will sell at least two players shortly - for around 7-8 million but then we will also buy a couple of players before the season starts for maybe 5 million.
So on transfers in and out of Ewood over the last four seasons the ledger is almost even between the V's and the WT.
The asset stripping theory then only works then if we believe that the players that we bring in now are inferior to the ones we sold. But then that goes as much for the WT transactions as it does for the V's....
Interesting eh....not sure what it all means except I wish we still had Jack Walker in charge!
Jones £16.5 million
Samba £12 million
Kalinic £6 million
Yakubu £1 milion
Don't think this adds up to £24 million received!
"Here we all go to Ewood Park, asset stripping, what a lark"
SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB
Rovers 1495
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3:36pm Tue 7 Aug 12
garyintandem
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3:40pm Tue 7 Aug 12
French Rover wrote:The difference is that we had John Williams to work with the managers...Souness, Hughes and Allardyce and we bought shrewdly, built te Academy and sold at a profit. (Bentley, Santa Cruz, Samba, Jones, Hoilett, were bought for less than 5m and sold for over 65m. This lot have put a drunken, ignorant lunatic in charge of the asylum and once they've sold off Olsson and Hanley, there won't be any more players who can be sold for a profit. Then once the parachute paymens run out, we're doomed.
benal13 wrote:what it means is that if you take Kean out (please) then there is no significant 'fiscal -monetry' difference between what the WT did and what the Venkys are doing on transfers. Which surprised me (if not you).
French Rover wrote:no i dont think anybody knows what it means
I just had a look at the Rovers transfer history over the two most recent periods 2008-2010 (Walker Trust) and 2010-2012 (Venky's) - as someone told me there was a massive difference in what we got in versus what we spent now under the V's against what we did under the WT.
It is quite interesting:
under the WT during 2008-2010 we spent 24 million and got 41 million in. So we made plus 17 million in that period on transfers.
under the Venkys 2010 to 2012 YTD we spent 13.8 million and got in 24 million. So we made plus 10.2 million in this period on transfers.
So the WT is 5 million up on Venkys currently on their sales v spend.
I expect we will sell at least two players shortly - for around 7-8 million but then we will also buy a couple of players before the season starts for maybe 5 million.
So on transfers in and out of Ewood over the last four seasons the ledger is almost even between the V's and the WT.
The asset stripping theory then only works then if we believe that the players that we bring in now are inferior to the ones we sold. But then that goes as much for the WT transactions as it does for the V's....
Interesting eh....not sure what it all means except I wish we still had Jack Walker in charge!
Lancs - pensioner
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3:45pm Tue 7 Aug 12
French Rover wrote:HiFrenchy,
I just had a look at the Rovers transfer history over the two most recent periods 2008-2010 (Walker Trust) and 2010-2012 (Venky's) - as someone told me there was a massive difference in what we got in versus what we spent now under the V's against what we did under the WT. It is quite interesting: under the WT during 2008-2010 we spent 24 million and got 41 million in. So we made plus 17 million in that period on transfers. under the Venkys 2010 to 2012 YTD we spent 13.8 million and got in 24 million. So we made plus 10.2 million in this period on transfers. So the WT is 5 million up on Venkys currently on their sales v spend. I expect we will sell at least two players shortly - for around 7-8 million but then we will also buy a couple of players before the season starts for maybe 5 million. So on transfers in and out of Ewood over the last four seasons the ledger is almost even between the V's and the WT. The asset stripping theory then only works then if we believe that the players that we bring in now are inferior to the ones we sold. But then that goes as much for the WT transactions as it does for the V's.... Interesting eh....not sure what it all means except I wish we still had Jack Walker in charge!
Good post if it was totally acurate, but unless I am wrong I get money "in" not £24 million but nearer £38 million,
Jones = £20 million with add ons which I think have now been paid
Samba = £12 million
Kalaniz = £6 million
That makes my total more or less
£38 million? correct me if I am wrong.
givet82
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3:50pm Tue 7 Aug 12
1riversider wrote:You fail to mention other signings just to back up your point of asset stripping grow up! Dann 7mill goodwillie 3 mill etc etc etc....... If you wanted to asset strip a business you wouldn't try and hang on to people like Samba and Jones and bid 4 million for Rhodes( And before you comment my mate knows Jones and he got offered 80 k per week to stay plus the captains armband. Dunn is a Rover and always will be no matter what anybody on here says and he would never let this happen right under his nose. We have a crap manager yes but this asset stripping **** is nonsense. Balancing the books and getting rid of older squad players in normal practice. Granted we all new Nelson could have played another season or 2 for us but our pratt of a manager fell out with him. Salgado, Grella and Roberts were no good to us
givet82 wrote:I think you need to check your figures for transfers out.
French Rover wrote:Exellent posting FR, i already guessed this info but for some posters i hope it puts things in perspective! The only serious mistake Venkys are making at the minute is giving Kean another chance, im sure it won't last too long with a better infustructure than last season(well we hope)
benal13 wrote:what it means is that if you take Kean out (please) then there is no significant 'fiscal -monetry' difference between what the WT did and what the Venkys are doing on transfers. Which surprised me (if not you).
French Rover wrote:no i dont think anybody knows what it means
I just had a look at the Rovers transfer history over the two most recent periods 2008-2010 (Walker Trust) and 2010-2012 (Venky's) - as someone told me there was a massive difference in what we got in versus what we spent now under the V's against what we did under the WT.
It is quite interesting:
under the WT during 2008-2010 we spent 24 million and got 41 million in. So we made plus 17 million in that period on transfers.
under the Venkys 2010 to 2012 YTD we spent 13.8 million and got in 24 million. So we made plus 10.2 million in this period on transfers.
So the WT is 5 million up on Venkys currently on their sales v spend.
I expect we will sell at least two players shortly - for around 7-8 million but then we will also buy a couple of players before the season starts for maybe 5 million.
So on transfers in and out of Ewood over the last four seasons the ledger is almost even between the V's and the WT.
The asset stripping theory then only works then if we believe that the players that we bring in now are inferior to the ones we sold. But then that goes as much for the WT transactions as it does for the V's....
Interesting eh....not sure what it all means except I wish we still had Jack Walker in charge!
Jones £16.5 million
Samba £12 million
Kalinic £6 million
Yakubu £1 milion
Don't think this adds up to £24 million received!
"Here we all go to Ewood Park, asset stripping, what a lark"
SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB
Lancs - pensioner
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3:50pm Tue 7 Aug 12
RUinsane wrote:I take your point RU, it should not be us against you, it should be what ever you think is right to get Kean out, we all think thats right.
benal13 wrote:I'm just flipping the coin, everyone on here calls the renewers, me I don't give a monkeys if you renew or not. I am. But those who renew are always slagged off so I slag those off who do not. I write premier league glory boys for these guys as I know it pushes their buttons. Just as they push mine by attacking those who renew. Take BENAL13 who is a typical premier league glory boy and wants to hide his desertion behind his innability to take relegation like a man. I know you've been here before Lancs and I understand why you are staying away, but what I can't get my head round is those who pick on those who want to go and watch. What difference does it make??? Hey by the way I like the PLGB abreviation I think I'll print a t shirt with, "I aint no PLGB" with a pic of MR T on it and "Grow some nuts" at the bottom.Lancs - pensioner wrote:i agree LP but i came to the conclusion ages ago that RUinsane ISRUinsane wrote:RUinsane, nothing new from you then, just the usual slagging off, no debate, god your boring! Why does everyone who disagrees with you have to be a PLGB, Port Vale away, great game Tony Fields goal from the half way line great goal No I am not a PLGB just some one with a few more brain cells than you who likes a good (sometimes funny) debate.Roy Race wrote:Premier league glory boy with no natcho'sLancs - pensioner wrote: Well well, what did I say 3 weeks ago Rhodes will never come to this circus, there chairman is backing his manager and club, they dont need to sell, there clubs in profit,and being run by good honest people who care about there club. Need I go on, it was NEVER going to happen, keep putting bids in that are unexceptable is just cheap publicity. Notice we managed to sign all the freebys with no problems. No you can fool some of the people some of the time but after 18 months of the same things happening you get used to Bull Sh!t coming out of Ewood. Another couple of examples if I remember correctly, We need to hit the ground running and get the players we want in early. We are serious when talking about Beckham, Ronaldo, Bull Sh!t and More Bull sh!t And b4 anyone says it, yes I got out of bed the wrong side this morning.Join me on the beach LP! . One of the 12,000 signing off for good. Time to move on rather than suffer these fools anymore LP.
I personaly am staying away
You are going
End off
French Rover
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4:02pm Tue 7 Aug 12
1riversider wrote:yep missed the samba transfer off in error.....not sure how cos I was thinking of his fee and searched for it...... Most ref points say 'fee undisclosed' but also a lot agree that he went for around 9 million - but 2 million of that had to go to Hertha Berlin as a sell-on fee. So around 7 million to go on the V's total which still does not make much difference between the WT and V's transfers. Still not asset stripping......but still probably dodgy....KO.N.
givet82 wrote:I think you need to check your figures for transfers out.
French Rover wrote:Exellent posting FR, i already guessed this info but for some posters i hope it puts things in perspective! The only serious mistake Venkys are making at the minute is giving Kean another chance, im sure it won't last too long with a better infustructure than last season(well we hope)
benal13 wrote:what it means is that if you take Kean out (please) then there is no significant 'fiscal -monetry' difference between what the WT did and what the Venkys are doing on transfers. Which surprised me (if not you).
French Rover wrote:no i dont think anybody knows what it means
I just had a look at the Rovers transfer history over the two most recent periods 2008-2010 (Walker Trust) and 2010-2012 (Venky's) - as someone told me there was a massive difference in what we got in versus what we spent now under the V's against what we did under the WT.
It is quite interesting:
under the WT during 2008-2010 we spent 24 million and got 41 million in. So we made plus 17 million in that period on transfers.
under the Venkys 2010 to 2012 YTD we spent 13.8 million and got in 24 million. So we made plus 10.2 million in this period on transfers.
So the WT is 5 million up on Venkys currently on their sales v spend.
I expect we will sell at least two players shortly - for around 7-8 million but then we will also buy a couple of players before the season starts for maybe 5 million.
So on transfers in and out of Ewood over the last four seasons the ledger is almost even between the V's and the WT.
The asset stripping theory then only works then if we believe that the players that we bring in now are inferior to the ones we sold. But then that goes as much for the WT transactions as it does for the V's....
Interesting eh....not sure what it all means except I wish we still had Jack Walker in charge!
Jones £16.5 million
Samba £12 million
Kalinic £6 million
Yakubu £1 milion
Don't think this adds up to £24 million received!
"Here we all go to Ewood Park, asset stripping, what a lark"
SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB
blueblooded
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4:03pm Tue 7 Aug 12
unclejacklegend wrote:Did you take into account the millions the WT were having to put in eacg year to subsidise the running of the club as per Uncle Jack's will?
givet82 wrote:Rubbish post. Doesn't take into account the sacking or freezing out of everybody on a decent wage. From staff to players, John Williams to Nelsen and salgado. Pretty sure the sales of jones and samba alone added up to more than 24 million anyway.
French Rover wrote:Exellent posting FR, i already guessed this info but for some posters i hope it puts things in perspective! The only serious mistake Venkys are making at the minute is giving Kean another chance, im sure it won't last too long with a better infustructure than last season(well we hope)
benal13 wrote:what it means is that if you take Kean out (please) then there is no significant 'fiscal -monetry' difference between what the WT did and what the Venkys are doing on transfers. Which surprised me (if not you).
French Rover wrote:no i dont think anybody knows what it means
I just had a look at the Rovers transfer history over the two most recent periods 2008-2010 (Walker Trust) and 2010-2012 (Venky's) - as someone told me there was a massive difference in what we got in versus what we spent now under the V's against what we did under the WT.
It is quite interesting:
under the WT during 2008-2010 we spent 24 million and got 41 million in. So we made plus 17 million in that period on transfers.
under the Venkys 2010 to 2012 YTD we spent 13.8 million and got in 24 million. So we made plus 10.2 million in this period on transfers.
So the WT is 5 million up on Venkys currently on their sales v spend.
I expect we will sell at least two players shortly - for around 7-8 million but then we will also buy a couple of players before the season starts for maybe 5 million.
So on transfers in and out of Ewood over the last four seasons the ledger is almost even between the V's and the WT.
The asset stripping theory then only works then if we believe that the players that we bring in now are inferior to the ones we sold. But then that goes as much for the WT transactions as it does for the V's....
Interesting eh....not sure what it all means except I wish we still had Jack Walker in charge!
benal13
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4:04pm Tue 7 Aug 12
French Rover wrote:there might not have been much difference in the fiscal monetry sense but at least WT told the fans that they were not investing in the club anymore not like this lot of pretenders so at least WT were honest with us this lot dont know the meaning of the word!!!!!!
benal13 wrote:what it means is that if you take Kean out (please) then there is no significant 'fiscal -monetry' difference between what the WT did and what the Venkys are doing on transfers. Which surprised me (if not you).
French Rover wrote:no i dont think anybody knows what it means
I just had a look at the Rovers transfer history over the two most recent periods 2008-2010 (Walker Trust) and 2010-2012 (Venky's) - as someone told me there was a massive difference in what we got in versus what we spent now under the V's against what we did under the WT.
It is quite interesting:
under the WT during 2008-2010 we spent 24 million and got 41 million in. So we made plus 17 million in that period on transfers.
under the Venkys 2010 to 2012 YTD we spent 13.8 million and got in 24 million. So we made plus 10.2 million in this period on transfers.
So the WT is 5 million up on Venkys currently on their sales v spend.
I expect we will sell at least two players shortly - for around 7-8 million but then we will also buy a couple of players before the season starts for maybe 5 million.
So on transfers in and out of Ewood over the last four seasons the ledger is almost even between the V's and the WT.
The asset stripping theory then only works then if we believe that the players that we bring in now are inferior to the ones we sold. But then that goes as much for the WT transactions as it does for the V's....
Interesting eh....not sure what it all means except I wish we still had Jack Walker in charge!
CARover
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4:08pm Tue 7 Aug 12
Lancs - pensioner wrote:Good for you LP being a crank once in while is OK
Well well, what did I say 3 weeks ago Rhodes will never come to this circus, there chairman is backing his manager and club, they dont need to sell, there clubs in profit,and being run by good honest people who care about there club.
Need I go on, it was NEVER going to happen, keep putting bids in that are unexceptable is just cheap publicity.
Notice we managed to sign all the freebys with no problems.
No you can fool some of the people some of the time but after 18 months of the same things happening you get used to Bull Sh!t coming out of Ewood.
Another couple of examples if I remember correctly,
We need to hit the ground running and get the players we want in early.
We are serious when talking about Beckham, Ronaldo,
Bull Sh!t and More Bull sh!t
And b4 anyone says it, yes I got out of bed the wrong side this morning.
The smell of beef from Ewood is as you say.... it is just pure Bull $hit from the master of BS & the owners, advisors etc ,sad thing is there will always be more to pi$$ you off tomorrow
Frazer P
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4:21pm Tue 7 Aug 12
CARover wrote:See on this rare occasion I tend to disagree, my view on the Rhodes deal is this....surely if the offer from rovers was £2 mill up front with £2 mill in add ons then Huddersfield would have dismissed it out of hand. The fact it has taken some time to reject the offer would suggest that they where tempted to accept and really give it some thought? Working on this theory the offer must have been tempting so was no way £2 million
Lancs - pensioner wrote: Well well, what did I say 3 weeks ago Rhodes will never come to this circus, there chairman is backing his manager and club, they dont need to sell, there clubs in profit,and being run by good honest people who care about there club. Need I go on, it was NEVER going to happen, keep putting bids in that are unexceptable is just cheap publicity. Notice we managed to sign all the freebys with no problems. No you can fool some of the people some of the time but after 18 months of the same things happening you get used to Bull Sh!t coming out of Ewood. Another couple of examples if I remember correctly, We need to hit the ground running and get the players we want in early. We are serious when talking about Beckham, Ronaldo, Bull Sh!t and More Bull sh!t And b4 anyone says it, yes I got out of bed the wrong side this morning.Good for you LP being a crank once in while is OK The smell of beef from Ewood is as you say.... it is just pure Bull $hit from the master of BS & the owners, advisors etc ,sad thing is there will always be more to pi$$ you off tomorrow
pbirty
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4:47pm Tue 7 Aug 12
Gaz M wrote:the huddersfield examiner said it was 2 million with 4 million add on dependent on apperances!!!!!! our shyster owners are at it again. they are not stupid, he`d play one game less to activate the four million and never play again due to injury(stevekeanitus
Doubt we will ever get the factual offer made to Huddersfield for Rhodes but the Huddersfield press claim its closer to 4 than 6 million with no sell on fee for them, its a case of who to believe and the club at present do not seem to be able to come clean on most issues ! Iknow who I tend to believe!!
). huddersfield imo have seen rovers work this way before, salgardo,etc. one of the best young talents below the p.l. and we **** it up. why does this not surprise me.
pbirty
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4:52pm Tue 7 Aug 12
BlueSkies wrote:just read the examiner mate and it doesnt say that, i think the story has been updated.
Huddersfield Examiner says £2m plus another £2m if we are promoted, and no sell-on clause. Needless to say, they were unimpressed.
pbirty
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5:03pm Tue 7 Aug 12
rovertillidie wrote:3 million for best and100,000 for one of the kids. thats what i`v read. if there is anymore `investment` then i`v missed it.also how many chances do they need, they have cocked up constantly, what has happened to make you think that we will do better? has kean been sacked and we dont know about it?sorry for being so negative but kean is still here so we will always have `the wrong type of dew on the grass` as an excuse for losing.
I feel a lot of people are to content just to moan in their comments and I suppose I may have done my share in the past....lets get real here Kean and co are going nowhere at the moment. No one including me doubts that he should have gone before Christmas last year but for whatever reason he remains so we have to live with it for the present.
At the end of last season I felt as low as I have ever been as a Rovers supporter of 40 years and could only see the club going through the divisions back into the mire of the lower leagues BUT I have been slightly encouraged that some structure (Hendry, Agnew and Singh) has been put back into the club, we have made in my opinion some good signings (Best, Nunes, Murphy and Etuhu) unfortunately Best won't feature and that is a shame because I think he would have been a great success and a real handful at this level. We are also looking to add to this list by the way. We have also took a chance on a group of Portuguese youngsters in the hope one or two will come off for the future.
Therefore I am willing to give this lot another chance and see where we are after the first 10-15 games. Its so easy to jump on a bandwagon of negativity. I have to say overall I have been surprised at the level of investment as detailed above Venkys have put back in, they have not asset stripped which was my worst fear at the end of last season.
I'll be there hopefully enjoying a surprisingly good season at Ewood whilst some so called supporters will be shopping in Blackburn Town Centre with the missus .......now that is a scary thought!!
Cut the negative thoughts out your minds, get real and try looking at the facts as detailed above.....yes many many mistakes have been made in the past but lets look at what has happened across close season and take some encouragement that Venkys have invested in the club.
Angry Bob
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5:08pm Tue 7 Aug 12
RUinsane wrote:As a Trampburn fan i don't think you're in any position to display arrogance, do you?
Kermit The Frog wrote:Hey up, looks like an uddersfield supporter felt that incensed that he created a log in just to comment??? I suppose its only natural when a far bigger club comes sniffing round your table, picking all the best bits and leaving you with sprouts.
givet82 wrote:Oh the arrogance, have a look at the fledgling Championship table - you will find that amazingly enough Blackburn are now in the same division as Huddersfield Town and therefore are RIVALS.
Worrying times when huddersfield consider us rivals, also i think going public is most of the time a decent tactical move to land a player IF you are a big blub with massive intentions, unfortunetly for Rovers Rhodes will not consider us a massive step up so probably won't force a move!
The days of Man Utd being your rivals are over sunshine - get with the programme.
speedie_rovers_legend
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5:15pm Tue 7 Aug 12
We are doomed with these people in charge , they cannot make decisions , and have got shebby singh in to run the club , as you have all found out he is a very nice man just like Steve Kean, but he to is clueless, he is a football pundit from malaysia full stop. They re all milking the club dry, and when the money stops coming in they will flee with the booty , leaving us like pompey.
flyingv1
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5:16pm Tue 7 Aug 12
Angry Bob wrote:As a Dingle, I don't think you are in any position to give us your thoughts on "non Dingle" activity, do you?
RUinsane wrote:As a Trampburn fan i don't think you're in any position to display arrogance, do you?Kermit The Frog wrote:Hey up, looks like an uddersfield supporter felt that incensed that he created a log in just to comment??? I suppose its only natural when a far bigger club comes sniffing round your table, picking all the best bits and leaving you with sprouts.givet82 wrote: Worrying times when huddersfield consider us rivals, also i think going public is most of the time a decent tactical move to land a player IF you are a big blub with massive intentions, unfortunetly for Rovers Rhodes will not consider us a massive step up so probably won't force a move!Oh the arrogance, have a look at the fledgling Championship table - you will find that amazingly enough Blackburn are now in the same division as Huddersfield Town and therefore are RIVALS. The days of Man Utd being your rivals are over sunshine - get with the programme.
pbirty
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5:23pm Tue 7 Aug 12
RUinsane wrote:it has nothing to do with not being in the pl and you now that. your just being obnoxious for the sake of it and trying to wind people up. kean is the reason why people are staying away. personally , if people want to go and support rovers , then do so. if you want to show your anger at the regime by not going, then do so. all this childish `im a proper supporter, your not` is a load of crap and kean must be loving it.
I'd be interested to know what Brag and Brist have to say about staying away or going. Any official release from them? Do we go and support the team or do we stay away.
Staunch thick and thin supporter, or Premier league glory hunter, what's the verdict???
French Rover
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5:24pm Tue 7 Aug 12
speedie_rovers_legensteve kean is a nice man? what a strange thing to say......I think you are in a minority of one on that speedie
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Blackburn are being asset stripped ,anyone who cannot see that is being hoodwinked by the people who are supposed to be running the club, anyone at the club will tell you that no one knows what is going on , and the club is a complete shambles from the bottom to the bottom there is no top,
We are doomed with these people in charge , they cannot make decisions , and have got shebby singh in to run the club , as you have all found out he is a very nice man just like Steve Kean, but he to is clueless, he is a football pundit from malaysia full stop. They re all milking the club dry, and when the money stops coming in they will flee with the booty , leaving us like pompey.
French Rover
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5:26pm Tue 7 Aug 12
blueblooded wrote:not many millions in the last couple of years....
unclejacklegend wrote:Did you take into account the millions the WT were having to put in eacg year to subsidise the running of the club as per Uncle Jack's will?
givet82 wrote:Rubbish post. Doesn't take into account the sacking or freezing out of everybody on a decent wage. From staff to players, John Williams to Nelsen and salgado. Pretty sure the sales of jones and samba alone added up to more than 24 million anyway.
French Rover wrote:Exellent posting FR, i already guessed this info but for some posters i hope it puts things in perspective! The only serious mistake Venkys are making at the minute is giving Kean another chance, im sure it won't last too long with a better infustructure than last season(well we hope)
benal13 wrote:what it means is that if you take Kean out (please) then there is no significant 'fiscal -monetry' difference between what the WT did and what the Venkys are doing on transfers. Which surprised me (if not you).
French Rover wrote:no i dont think anybody knows what it means
I just had a look at the Rovers transfer history over the two most recent periods 2008-2010 (Walker Trust) and 2010-2012 (Venky's) - as someone told me there was a massive difference in what we got in versus what we spent now under the V's against what we did under the WT.
It is quite interesting:
under the WT during 2008-2010 we spent 24 million and got 41 million in. So we made plus 17 million in that period on transfers.
under the Venkys 2010 to 2012 YTD we spent 13.8 million and got in 24 million. So we made plus 10.2 million in this period on transfers.
So the WT is 5 million up on Venkys currently on their sales v spend.
I expect we will sell at least two players shortly - for around 7-8 million but then we will also buy a couple of players before the season starts for maybe 5 million.
So on transfers in and out of Ewood over the last four seasons the ledger is almost even between the V's and the WT.
The asset stripping theory then only works then if we believe that the players that we bring in now are inferior to the ones we sold. But then that goes as much for the WT transactions as it does for the V's....
Interesting eh....not sure what it all means except I wish we still had Jack Walker in charge!
in moses we trust
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5:51pm Tue 7 Aug 12
123Jon123
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5:51pm Tue 7 Aug 12
lowelife
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5:52pm Tue 7 Aug 12
RUinsane wrote:I take exception to your posting; I for one am not a PL Glory Boy, as you rather insultingly put it. Blind insolence is your stance, you know the club is a shambles put you blindly soldier on, throwing your money to the Venky's to pay Kean's wages. If you had always bought X brand cars and been supremely happy with them but suddenly you had one that was unreliable and you didn't trust what the mechanic was saying to you every time it went back in, would you just continue paying for it to be repaired? Of course you wouldn't! You'd give them an ultimatum, sack the mechanic who was incompetent or you will take your business elsewhere. What is the difference? You are being told lie after lie by a total shower, yet you advise people to continue throwing their hard earned cash away. Get real, man; show some soidarity, stay away, demand your ST money back, do not return until they have removed the root cause of the problem. I.E SK
Yawn, SSDD, the people who renew are called for doing so as " Venkys would be on their way if you all stayed ay home". Well I'm going because I'm not a premier league glory boy and support my theam through thick and thin. These times are thin, and you guys are the thick. Only supporting your so called team when you're in the PL= premier league glory boys. Grow some natcho's and stop behaving like a bunch of spoilt brats. Kean out for sure, but you guys can go bargain hunting at lidle while I'm taking in a game or two and eating a pie.
Harwoodstblue
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5:54pm Tue 7 Aug 12
pbirty wrote:I agree, childish, Well said.
RUinsane wrote:it has nothing to do with not being in the pl and you now that. your just being obnoxious for the sake of it and trying to wind people up. kean is the reason why people are staying away. personally , if people want to go and support rovers , then do so. if you want to show your anger at the regime by not going, then do so. all this childish `im a proper supporter, your not` is a load of crap and kean must be loving it.
I'd be interested to know what Brag and Brist have to say about staying away or going. Any official release from them? Do we go and support the team or do we stay away.
Staunch thick and thin supporter, or Premier league glory hunter, what's the verdict???
Harwoodstblue
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5:56pm Tue 7 Aug 12
pbirty wrote:I agree, childish, Well said
RUinsane wrote:it has nothing to do with not being in the pl and you now that. your just being obnoxious for the sake of it and trying to wind people up. kean is the reason why people are staying away. personally , if people want to go and support rovers , then do so. if you want to show your anger at the regime by not going, then do so. all this childish `im a proper supporter, your not` is a load of crap and kean must be loving it.
I'd be interested to know what Brag and Brist have to say about staying away or going. Any official release from them? Do we go and support the team or do we stay away.
Staunch thick and thin supporter, or Premier league glory hunter, what's the verdict???
RUinsane
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6:03pm Tue 7 Aug 12
in moses we trust wrote:Have Bolton won a game yet??
Joke bid, as if Rhodes would want to join a club tht's the laughing stock of football. the only players Rovers are attracting are hasbeen's and never will be's.
Jack Herer
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6:06pm Tue 7 Aug 12
lusorover wrote:"Please stop using the excuse of forcing Venkys arm for staying away."?
Many posters on here seem to think that a significant reduction in attendances will bring about change at Ewood.
If 10000 people were to fail to buy a season ticket because of Kean / Venkys the financial hit to the Club would be only about 2.5 million.
Even to a financially-struggli
ng Club such as Rovers this is nothing and is easily recouped in player sales..
Please stop using the excuse of forcing Venkys arm for staying away.
If you don't want to watch your team then don't watch but don't pretend that your decision is born of some higher motive.
The atmosphere at the ground will be vastly improved if the moaners stay away.
It's football; it's our team. Ignore Kean. Have the strength of character to rise above the fact that we currently have a failure as a manager. It's not the first time and it certaily won't be the last.
If you truly believe that the Club is about the fans I suggest that you get yourselves down to Ewood and get behind the team so that you can have pride when Kean has gone and be able to say "I saw it through, Kean and Venks didn't stop me from supporting my team."
Lol - you could easily be Steve Kean coming out with stuff like that.
RUinsane
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6:12pm Tue 7 Aug 12
Harwoodstblue wrote:Definition of football supporter= someone who contributes to the upkeep of their club, their colours, their soldiers, their army and gives there support both financially and emotionally no matter, what competition, what league and what division they are in hail rain or shine.
pbirty wrote:I agree, childish, Well said
RUinsane wrote:it has nothing to do with not being in the pl and you now that. your just being obnoxious for the sake of it and trying to wind people up. kean is the reason why people are staying away. personally , if people want to go and support rovers , then do so. if you want to show your anger at the regime by not going, then do so. all this childish `im a proper supporter, your not` is a load of crap and kean must be loving it.
I'd be interested to know what Brag and Brist have to say about staying away or going. Any official release from them? Do we go and support the team or do we stay away.
Staunch thick and thin supporter, or Premier league glory hunter, what's the verdict???
It doesn't say it only applies when you are in the Glory Boy league.
I find all your comments distasteful and didn't know what a bunch of deserters I was siding with.
Kean out, Glory Boys out too. Come on You Blues
Jack Herer
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6:13pm Tue 7 Aug 12
pbirty wrote:Well put.
RUinsane wrote:it has nothing to do with not being in the pl and you now that. your just being obnoxious for the sake of it and trying to wind people up. kean is the reason why people are staying away. personally , if people want to go and support rovers , then do so. if you want to show your anger at the regime by not going, then do so. all this childish `im a proper supporter, your not` is a load of crap and kean must be loving it.
I'd be interested to know what Brag and Brist have to say about staying away or going. Any official release from them? Do we go and support the team or do we stay away.
Staunch thick and thin supporter, or Premier league glory hunter, what's the verdict???
The fans being divided suits one person only - Steve Kean. It's his best chance of any support; pitting fan against fan, and in some way he's then not the enemy, it's other fans. What a pathetic individual doing that to the fans though eh.
Renewing or not, we're all Rovers fans just the same, and we all have a common enemy - Steve Kean. We're completely united on that one so why the Venkys would completely ignore us on it is the strangest customer service I think I've ever come across.
lusorover
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6:18pm Tue 7 Aug 12
Jack Herer wrote:You may think so but the fact is that if you and 9999 others choose not to watch your team Venkys will not give it a second thought.
lusorover wrote:"Please stop using the excuse of forcing Venkys arm for staying away."?
Many posters on here seem to think that a significant reduction in attendances will bring about change at Ewood.
If 10000 people were to fail to buy a season ticket because of Kean / Venkys the financial hit to the Club would be only about 2.5 million.
Even to a financially-struggli
ng Club such as Rovers this is nothing and is easily recouped in player sales..
Please stop using the excuse of forcing Venkys arm for staying away.
If you don't want to watch your team then don't watch but don't pretend that your decision is born of some higher motive.
The atmosphere at the ground will be vastly improved if the moaners stay away.
It's football; it's our team. Ignore Kean. Have the strength of character to rise above the fact that we currently have a failure as a manager. It's not the first time and it certaily won't be the last.
If you truly believe that the Club is about the fans I suggest that you get yourselves down to Ewood and get behind the team so that you can have pride when Kean has gone and be able to say "I saw it through, Kean and Venks didn't stop me from supporting my team."
Lol - you could easily be Steve Kean coming out with stuff like that.
You may not like that fact but it is the reality.
You may choose not to watch the team for whatever reason but to suggest that the reason is one of putting pressure on Venkys is risible.
Live and let live.
Jack Herer
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6:21pm Tue 7 Aug 12
RUinsane wrote:We are no longer at a normal club though. No club in the world has ever kept such an unpopular manager for so long. It's why conspiracy theories are running amok.
Harwoodstblue wrote:Definition of football supporter= someone who contributes to the upkeep of their club, their colours, their soldiers, their army and gives there support both financially and emotionally no matter, what competition, what league and what division they are in hail rain or shine.
pbirty wrote:I agree, childish, Well said
RUinsane wrote:it has nothing to do with not being in the pl and you now that. your just being obnoxious for the sake of it and trying to wind people up. kean is the reason why people are staying away. personally , if people want to go and support rovers , then do so. if you want to show your anger at the regime by not going, then do so. all this childish `im a proper supporter, your not` is a load of crap and kean must be loving it.
I'd be interested to know what Brag and Brist have to say about staying away or going. Any official release from them? Do we go and support the team or do we stay away.
Staunch thick and thin supporter, or Premier league glory hunter, what's the verdict???
It doesn't say it only applies when you are in the Glory Boy league.
I find all your comments distasteful and didn't know what a bunch of deserters I was siding with.
Kean out, Glory Boys out too. Come on You Blues
These are not normal times therefore, and they are very much not normal actions from the people who haven't renewed. These people have had season tickets for decades through thick and thin. Not being funny KDG but I'd hazard an educated guess that these people have been to Ewood many more times than you.
These really are strange days; you need to speak to real people and you'd be amazed the kind of fans who aren't renewing - the hardest of the hardcore - and there's thousands and thousands of them.
But the owners would rather stick 2 fingers up to them. Really really weird.
Harwoodstblue
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6:28pm Tue 7 Aug 12
RUinsane wrote:Obnoxious pratt with a lot to say. It's your way or no way isn't it. Don't you like to hear your own voice..big gob springs to mind.
Harwoodstblue wrote:Definition of football supporter= someone who contributes to the upkeep of their club, their colours, their soldiers, their army and gives there support both financially and emotionally no matter, what competition, what league and what division they are in hail rain or shine.
pbirty wrote:I agree, childish, Well said
RUinsane wrote:it has nothing to do with not being in the pl and you now that. your just being obnoxious for the sake of it and trying to wind people up. kean is the reason why people are staying away. personally , if people want to go and support rovers , then do so. if you want to show your anger at the regime by not going, then do so. all this childish `im a proper supporter, your not` is a load of crap and kean must be loving it.
I'd be interested to know what Brag and Brist have to say about staying away or going. Any official release from them? Do we go and support the team or do we stay away.
Staunch thick and thin supporter, or Premier league glory hunter, what's the verdict???
It doesn't say it only applies when you are in the Glory Boy league.
I find all your comments distasteful and didn't know what a bunch of deserters I was siding with.
Kean out, Glory Boys out too. Come on You Blues
Jack Herer
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6:29pm Tue 7 Aug 12
lusorover wrote:You don't know that though - that's the truth. No one does. There's never been a club our size in the modern era, where the fans have stayed away in such massive numbers. Never.
Jack Herer wrote:You may think so but the fact is that if you and 9999 others choose not to watch your team Venkys will not give it a second thought.
lusorover wrote:"Please stop using the excuse of forcing Venkys arm for staying away."?
Many posters on here seem to think that a significant reduction in attendances will bring about change at Ewood.
If 10000 people were to fail to buy a season ticket because of Kean / Venkys the financial hit to the Club would be only about 2.5 million.
Even to a financially-struggli
ng Club such as Rovers this is nothing and is easily recouped in player sales..
Please stop using the excuse of forcing Venkys arm for staying away.
If you don't want to watch your team then don't watch but don't pretend that your decision is born of some higher motive.
The atmosphere at the ground will be vastly improved if the moaners stay away.
It's football; it's our team. Ignore Kean. Have the strength of character to rise above the fact that we currently have a failure as a manager. It's not the first time and it certaily won't be the last.
If you truly believe that the Club is about the fans I suggest that you get yourselves down to Ewood and get behind the team so that you can have pride when Kean has gone and be able to say "I saw it through, Kean and Venks didn't stop me from supporting my team."
Lol - you could easily be Steve Kean coming out with stuff like that.
You may not like that fact but it is the reality.
You may choose not to watch the team for whatever reason but to suggest that the reason is one of putting pressure on Venkys is risible.
Live and let live.
That's what makes this so amazing. That's why the club are desperately leaving voice mail messages to sell season tickets. We are in uncharted territory.
What will it look like? What will be the media fall out? Will it affect the whole Venkys global business? It could put massive pressure on Venkys. It might be useless. No-one knows.
So don't pretend you do.
Why Venkys would take such a huge risk is beyond me though. It begs the question; how has their business survived for so long if their running of Rovers is anything to go by?
in moses we trust
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6:33pm Tue 7 Aug 12
RUinsane wrote:Why, do you think the season has started. I'll tell you it's 18th of August. ease try and be better informed.
in moses we trust wrote:Have Bolton won a game yet??
Joke bid, as if Rhodes would want to join a club tht's the laughing stock of football. the only players Rovers are attracting are hasbeen's and never will be's.
He Looks So Good In Training
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6:41pm Tue 7 Aug 12
RUinsane
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6:42pm Tue 7 Aug 12
Jack Herer wrote:Hello Jack, as you can see, the time for sensible debate is past. Every day without fail the ones who go to watch get a hard time on here from those who wish not to, so, I'm giving one back. Childish??? Yup but so is their constant bombardment of sheite. So you don't want to go, brill just stop giving those who do earache and I will do likewise. So until then.
RUinsane wrote:We are no longer at a normal club though. No club in the world has ever kept such an unpopular manager for so long. It's why conspiracy theories are running amok.
Harwoodstblue wrote:Definition of football supporter= someone who contributes to the upkeep of their club, their colours, their soldiers, their army and gives there support both financially and emotionally no matter, what competition, what league and what division they are in hail rain or shine.
pbirty wrote:I agree, childish, Well said
RUinsane wrote:it has nothing to do with not being in the pl and you now that. your just being obnoxious for the sake of it and trying to wind people up. kean is the reason why people are staying away. personally , if people want to go and support rovers , then do so. if you want to show your anger at the regime by not going, then do so. all this childish `im a proper supporter, your not` is a load of crap and kean must be loving it.
I'd be interested to know what Brag and Brist have to say about staying away or going. Any official release from them? Do we go and support the team or do we stay away.
Staunch thick and thin supporter, or Premier league glory hunter, what's the verdict???
It doesn't say it only applies when you are in the Glory Boy league.
I find all your comments distasteful and didn't know what a bunch of deserters I was siding with.
Kean out, Glory Boys out too. Come on You Blues
These are not normal times therefore, and they are very much not normal actions from the people who haven't renewed. These people have had season tickets for decades through thick and thin. Not being funny KDG but I'd hazard an educated guess that these people have been to Ewood many more times than you.
These really are strange days; you need to speak to real people and you'd be amazed the kind of fans who aren't renewing - the hardest of the hardcore - and there's thousands and thousands of them.
But the owners would rather stick 2 fingers up to them. Really really weird.
Premier League Glory Hunters Stay Away.
Anyway, I asked earlier what BRAG and BRISTs stance was on all this and so far no reply
Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles!
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6:44pm Tue 7 Aug 12
Lancs - pensioner wrote:RU - You seem to be a new poster since Fickle Fan retired?
RUinsane wrote:I take your point RU, it should not be us against you, it should be what ever you think is right to get Kean out, we all think thats right.
benal13 wrote:I'm just flipping the coin, everyone on here calls the renewers, me I don't give a monkeys if you renew or not. I am. But those who renew are always slagged off so I slag those off who do not. I write premier league glory boys for these guys as I know it pushes their buttons. Just as they push mine by attacking those who renew. Take BENAL13 who is a typical premier league glory boy and wants to hide his desertion behind his innability to take relegation like a man. I know you've been here before Lancs and I understand why you are staying away, but what I can't get my head round is those who pick on those who want to go and watch. What difference does it make??? Hey by the way I like the PLGB abreviation I think I'll print a t shirt with, "I aint no PLGB" with a pic of MR T on it and "Grow some nuts" at the bottom.Lancs - pensioner wrote:i agree LP but i came to the conclusion ages ago that RUinsane ISRUinsane wrote:RUinsane, nothing new from you then, just the usual slagging off, no debate, god your boring! Why does everyone who disagrees with you have to be a PLGB, Port Vale away, great game Tony Fields goal from the half way line great goal No I am not a PLGB just some one with a few more brain cells than you who likes a good (sometimes funny) debate.Roy Race wrote:Premier league glory boy with no natcho'sLancs - pensioner wrote: Well well, what did I say 3 weeks ago Rhodes will never come to this circus, there chairman is backing his manager and club, they dont need to sell, there clubs in profit,and being run by good honest people who care about there club. Need I go on, it was NEVER going to happen, keep putting bids in that are unexceptable is just cheap publicity. Notice we managed to sign all the freebys with no problems. No you can fool some of the people some of the time but after 18 months of the same things happening you get used to Bull Sh!t coming out of Ewood. Another couple of examples if I remember correctly, We need to hit the ground running and get the players we want in early. We are serious when talking about Beckham, Ronaldo, Bull Sh!t and More Bull sh!t And b4 anyone says it, yes I got out of bed the wrong side this morning.Join me on the beach LP! . One of the 12,000 signing off for good. Time to move on rather than suffer these fools anymore LP.
I personaly am staying away
You are going
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We all agreed whatever opinion about ST's not to turn blue against blue - so please catch up!
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I will not renew whilst Kean is manager - and it seems from posters on here that 12,000+ others share that view. These are unpresedented times in out history.
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Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles!
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6:44pm Tue 7 Aug 12
Lancs - pensioner wrote:RU - You seem to be a new poster since Fickle Fan retired?
RUinsane wrote:I take your point RU, it should not be us against you, it should be what ever you think is right to get Kean out, we all think thats right.
benal13 wrote:I'm just flipping the coin, everyone on here calls the renewers, me I don't give a monkeys if you renew or not. I am. But those who renew are always slagged off so I slag those off who do not. I write premier league glory boys for these guys as I know it pushes their buttons. Just as they push mine by attacking those who renew. Take BENAL13 who is a typical premier league glory boy and wants to hide his desertion behind his innability to take relegation like a man. I know you've been here before Lancs and I understand why you are staying away, but what I can't get my head round is those who pick on those who want to go and watch. What difference does it make??? Hey by the way I like the PLGB abreviation I think I'll print a t shirt with, "I aint no PLGB" with a pic of MR T on it and "Grow some nuts" at the bottom.Lancs - pensioner wrote:i agree LP but i came to the conclusion ages ago that RUinsane ISRUinsane wrote:RUinsane, nothing new from you then, just the usual slagging off, no debate, god your boring! Why does everyone who disagrees with you have to be a PLGB, Port Vale away, great game Tony Fields goal from the half way line great goal No I am not a PLGB just some one with a few more brain cells than you who likes a good (sometimes funny) debate.Roy Race wrote:Premier league glory boy with no natcho'sLancs - pensioner wrote: Well well, what did I say 3 weeks ago Rhodes will never come to this circus, there chairman is backing his manager and club, they dont need to sell, there clubs in profit,and being run by good honest people who care about there club. Need I go on, it was NEVER going to happen, keep putting bids in that are unexceptable is just cheap publicity. Notice we managed to sign all the freebys with no problems. No you can fool some of the people some of the time but after 18 months of the same things happening you get used to Bull Sh!t coming out of Ewood. Another couple of examples if I remember correctly, We need to hit the ground running and get the players we want in early. We are serious when talking about Beckham, Ronaldo, Bull Sh!t and More Bull sh!t And b4 anyone says it, yes I got out of bed the wrong side this morning.Join me on the beach LP! . One of the 12,000 signing off for good. Time to move on rather than suffer these fools anymore LP.
I personaly am staying away
You are going
End off
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We all agreed whatever opinion about ST's not to turn blue against blue - so please catch up!
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I will not renew whilst Kean is manager - and it seems from posters on here that 12,000+ others share that view. These are unpresedented times in out history.
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34th...
baldie
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6:45pm Tue 7 Aug 12
givet82 wrote:The Huddersfield paper yesterday reported a potential 6 million bid.
A Darener wrote:I don't think huddersfield local paper would be lying. Any Rover who thinks it's a Venky/Kean pr stunt google it first
When will all you fans out there get it into your head that any mention of spending on a player is pure BS. Whilst you are all salivating at the thought of a high profile player coming for millions the club are actually slipping non-entities through the back door. Then when the transfer window shuts they will say oh! dear we tried but were unsuccessful in getting the players we wanted.
TheTelegraph has today reported a potential 6 million bid.
Kean opens his gob,the Tykes aren't happy.
Lo and behold,the local rag,with no quotes from anybody,says that it is now a derisory 2 million + 2 million.
And there we have it,the Telegraph is the one making things up.
I don't know who is right and who is wrong.
No one on here knows who is right and who is wrong.
Proof,if any was needed, how much some people on here want Rovers and Kean to fail.
RUinsane
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6:52pm Tue 7 Aug 12
in moses we trust wrote:Interesting perspective Notlobber, never beens? would that include 1 goal in 7 super striker Ngog, or 1 goal in 8 super striker Davies. I predicted last year to you that you would get relegated with us, Guess which one of us was right???
RUinsane wrote:Why, do you think the season has started. I'll tell you it's 18th of August. ease try and be better informed.
in moses we trust wrote:Have Bolton won a game yet??
Joke bid, as if Rhodes would want to join a club tht's the laughing stock of football. the only players Rovers are attracting are hasbeen's and never will be's.
I will also predict that Notlob will do fookall and in moses we most certainly trust.
I must admit Coyle is way better than Keanochio, but only operating as a secret agent. Keanochio is hated at ewood for taking us down, whereas you thick feckers think Coyle is ace, still you are a Notlob supporter, speaks volumes.
Coyle in!!!
bburnrover
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6:52pm Tue 7 Aug 12
A second division striker who scores 37 goals in that league should be able to score 20 in an higher league but if we recall Jon Stead he was brilliant when confident but when that went he was just another journeyman striker again,I always think its better to go for a Premiership striker who can score around 10 goals as he will have the skills to bang a lot more in a lower league.I dont like Bentner but I suppose he would score quite a few goals but he is arrogant and thinks he is a top striker,I expect Kean to discover a Portugese striker now unless he buys Austin off our mates down the road..
Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles!
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6:55pm Tue 7 Aug 12
French Rover wrote:Blimey FR - all these years us posting on here and now we know we are almost family! (as well as the Rovers family) What price do you want for your house out of interest?
blueblooded wrote:not many millions in the last couple of years....
unclejacklegend wrote:Did you take into account the millions the WT were having to put in eacg year to subsidise the running of the club as per Uncle Jack's will?
givet82 wrote:Rubbish post. Doesn't take into account the sacking or freezing out of everybody on a decent wage. From staff to players, John Williams to Nelsen and salgado. Pretty sure the sales of jones and samba alone added up to more than 24 million anyway.
French Rover wrote:Exellent posting FR, i already guessed this info but for some posters i hope it puts things in perspective! The only serious mistake Venkys are making at the minute is giving Kean another chance, im sure it won't last too long with a better infustructure than last season(well we hope)
benal13 wrote:what it means is that if you take Kean out (please) then there is no significant 'fiscal -monetry' difference between what the WT did and what the Venkys are doing on transfers. Which surprised me (if not you).
French Rover wrote:no i dont think anybody knows what it means
I just had a look at the Rovers transfer history over the two most recent periods 2008-2010 (Walker Trust) and 2010-2012 (Venky's) - as someone told me there was a massive difference in what we got in versus what we spent now under the V's against what we did under the WT.
It is quite interesting:
under the WT during 2008-2010 we spent 24 million and got 41 million in. So we made plus 17 million in that period on transfers.
under the Venkys 2010 to 2012 YTD we spent 13.8 million and got in 24 million. So we made plus 10.2 million in this period on transfers.
So the WT is 5 million up on Venkys currently on their sales v spend.
I expect we will sell at least two players shortly - for around 7-8 million but then we will also buy a couple of players before the season starts for maybe 5 million.
So on transfers in and out of Ewood over the last four seasons the ledger is almost even between the V's and the WT.
The asset stripping theory then only works then if we believe that the players that we bring in now are inferior to the ones we sold. But then that goes as much for the WT transactions as it does for the V's....
Interesting eh....not sure what it all means except I wish we still had Jack Walker in charge!
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I don't think there are any comparisons between life and trade under the Walker Trust and under Kean / Venkys - Lies Dam Lies and Statistics!
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Kean Out!
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Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles!
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6:58pm Tue 7 Aug 12
RUinsane wrote:RU Fickle fan?
in moses we trust wrote:Interesting perspective Notlobber, never beens? would that include 1 goal in 7 super striker Ngog, or 1 goal in 8 super striker Davies. I predicted last year to you that you would get relegated with us, Guess which one of us was right???
RUinsane wrote:Why, do you think the season has started. I'll tell you it's 18th of August. ease try and be better informed.
in moses we trust wrote:Have Bolton won a game yet??
Joke bid, as if Rhodes would want to join a club tht's the laughing stock of football. the only players Rovers are attracting are hasbeen's and never will be's.
I will also predict that Notlob will do fookall and in moses we most certainly trust.
I must admit Coyle is way better than Keanochio, but only operating as a secret agent. Keanochio is hated at ewood for taking us down, whereas you thick feckers think Coyle is ace, still you are a Notlob supporter, speaks volumes.
Coyle in!!!
RUinsane
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6:59pm Tue 7 Aug 12
Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:Okay then we'll call a truce, but if Dangerous dave gets on my wick once more I'm gonna blow. Fickle fan was a kn@b, what are you trying to say??? I appeared when the other me was eradicated by the powers that be. I've been here for ages, but I can't say who I was or it happens again
Lancs - pensioner wrote:RU - You seem to be a new poster since Fickle Fan retired?
RUinsane wrote:I take your point RU, it should not be us against you, it should be what ever you think is right to get Kean out, we all think thats right.
benal13 wrote:I'm just flipping the coin, everyone on here calls the renewers, me I don't give a monkeys if you renew or not. I am. But those who renew are always slagged off so I slag those off who do not. I write premier league glory boys for these guys as I know it pushes their buttons. Just as they push mine by attacking those who renew. Take BENAL13 who is a typical premier league glory boy and wants to hide his desertion behind his innability to take relegation like a man. I know you've been here before Lancs and I understand why you are staying away, but what I can't get my head round is those who pick on those who want to go and watch. What difference does it make??? Hey by the way I like the PLGB abreviation I think I'll print a t shirt with, "I aint no PLGB" with a pic of MR T on it and "Grow some nuts" at the bottom.Lancs - pensioner wrote:i agree LP but i came to the conclusion ages ago that RUinsane ISRUinsane wrote:RUinsane, nothing new from you then, just the usual slagging off, no debate, god your boring! Why does everyone who disagrees with you have to be a PLGB, Port Vale away, great game Tony Fields goal from the half way line great goal No I am not a PLGB just some one with a few more brain cells than you who likes a good (sometimes funny) debate.Roy Race wrote:Premier league glory boy with no natcho'sLancs - pensioner wrote: Well well, what did I say 3 weeks ago Rhodes will never come to this circus, there chairman is backing his manager and club, they dont need to sell, there clubs in profit,and being run by good honest people who care about there club. Need I go on, it was NEVER going to happen, keep putting bids in that are unexceptable is just cheap publicity. Notice we managed to sign all the freebys with no problems. No you can fool some of the people some of the time but after 18 months of the same things happening you get used to Bull Sh!t coming out of Ewood. Another couple of examples if I remember correctly, We need to hit the ground running and get the players we want in early. We are serious when talking about Beckham, Ronaldo, Bull Sh!t and More Bull sh!t And b4 anyone says it, yes I got out of bed the wrong side this morning.Join me on the beach LP! . One of the 12,000 signing off for good. Time to move on rather than suffer these fools anymore LP.
I personaly am staying away
You are going
End off
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We all agreed whatever opinion about ST's not to turn blue against blue - so please catch up!
.
I will not renew whilst Kean is manager - and it seems from posters on here that 12,000+ others share that view. These are unpresedented times in out history.
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34th...
I don't mind someone not going, I also dont mind someone going. Its their choice.
So okay I'll apologise. Sorry if I offended anyone. but its driving me nuts.
RUinsane
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7:05pm Tue 7 Aug 12
Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:I'm well aware of what you are trying to do in a sly way. As Fickle Fan was so hated on here what better way of trying to get everyone on my back. But if you look back, I existed before fickle fan was around and I'm still here now he's fooked off.
RUinsane wrote:RU Fickle fan?
in moses we trust wrote:Interesting perspective Notlobber, never beens? would that include 1 goal in 7 super striker Ngog, or 1 goal in 8 super striker Davies. I predicted last year to you that you would get relegated with us, Guess which one of us was right???
RUinsane wrote:Why, do you think the season has started. I'll tell you it's 18th of August. ease try and be better informed.
in moses we trust wrote:Have Bolton won a game yet??
Joke bid, as if Rhodes would want to join a club tht's the laughing stock of football. the only players Rovers are attracting are hasbeen's and never will be's.
I will also predict that Notlob will do fookall and in moses we most certainly trust.
I must admit Coyle is way better than Keanochio, but only operating as a secret agent. Keanochio is hated at ewood for taking us down, whereas you thick feckers think Coyle is ace, still you are a Notlob supporter, speaks volumes.
Coyle in!!!
azza234
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7:05pm Tue 7 Aug 12
peely wrote:i read they offered 5.2 million for rhodes
"Rovers package believed to be around £6 million ". You,re havin a laugh ! Never in a million years did the chicken pluckers offer anything near this sum! Andy Cryer must have been brainwashed by Borat and his gang down at Ewood !
smellthecoffee
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7:06pm Tue 7 Aug 12
RUinsane wrote:PR desperation. Season ticket sales are down to the club and manager - not the fans!! Sack Kean, get an actual football manager in (not a clueless, backstabbing cretin) and see the fans flood back!! Over to you Venkys!!!
SadRover wrote:Sorry, but a staunch thick and thin supporter, like me, will go and watch my team in its hour of need. I too have watched them in lower divisions and so I refuse to get bullied by the premier league glory boys into deserting my team. You are far too easily persauded and seem to be lacking stomach and a backbone.
Ruinsane - I love your constant reference to Premier league glory hunter etc. I like most of the long term fans on had ST's at Rovers long before the Premier League existed when glory meant the final of the Full Members Cup. So please grow up.
Further look at your own logic, "I can't think of anything else to do on a Saturday" so I will go and support the Venkys and Kean in their systematic dismantling of the club you claim to love. If you really loved Rovers you would put the club first, ever heard of the greater good?
Venkys have had all of their "last chances" by keeping Kean they are laughing in your face. Enjoy that whilst you tuck into your pie. Maybe in January when we are languishing in the bottom have you can get excited when Kean talks about spending big and we make a £2.50 offer for Gareth Bale..........seriou
sly when are people going to realise how bad things really are and stop thinking that it is going to get better.
Is the saying, when the going gets tough, the tough spit out the dummy and go shopping instead?
As I said, whats BRAG and BRISTS view on all this desertion?
RUinsane
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7:22pm Tue 7 Aug 12
smellthecoffee wrote:You don't even go, you just come on here post rubbing like some leather clad german sado gay bar blue oyster club season ticket holder.
RUinsane wrote:PR desperation. Season ticket sales are down to the club and manager - not the fans!! Sack Kean, get an actual football manager in (not a clueless, backstabbing cretin) and see the fans flood back!! Over to you Venkys!!!
SadRover wrote:Sorry, but a staunch thick and thin supporter, like me, will go and watch my team in its hour of need. I too have watched them in lower divisions and so I refuse to get bullied by the premier league glory boys into deserting my team. You are far too easily persauded and seem to be lacking stomach and a backbone.
Ruinsane - I love your constant reference to Premier league glory hunter etc. I like most of the long term fans on had ST's at Rovers long before the Premier League existed when glory meant the final of the Full Members Cup. So please grow up.
Further look at your own logic, "I can't think of anything else to do on a Saturday" so I will go and support the Venkys and Kean in their systematic dismantling of the club you claim to love. If you really loved Rovers you would put the club first, ever heard of the greater good?
Venkys have had all of their "last chances" by keeping Kean they are laughing in your face. Enjoy that whilst you tuck into your pie. Maybe in January when we are languishing in the bottom have you can get excited when Kean talks about spending big and we make a £2.50 offer for Gareth Bale..........seriou
sly when are people going to realise how bad things really are and stop thinking that it is going to get better.
Is the saying, when the going gets tough, the tough spit out the dummy and go shopping instead?
As I said, whats BRAG and BRISTS view on all this desertion?
Blue Oyster PR machine, Over to you Field marshall Fischting.
So you're telling me a venky PR plant would write that??
Just joking, anyway I must admit you are one of the consistent ones on here. As Keanochio the cone man was revealed as our new manager you were posting Keanochio out comments the day after, so at least you haven't swapped sides like an afghan civillian.
pbirty
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7:29pm Tue 7 Aug 12
baldie wrote:read huddersfield examiner. 2 mill with 4 mill dependant on appearances. as venkys wont play him enough to trigger the further 4 mill(as we all now they wont) HT said no.
givet82 wrote:The Huddersfield paper yesterday reported a potential 6 million bid.
A Darener wrote:I don't think huddersfield local paper would be lying. Any Rover who thinks it's a Venky/Kean pr stunt google it first
When will all you fans out there get it into your head that any mention of spending on a player is pure BS. Whilst you are all salivating at the thought of a high profile player coming for millions the club are actually slipping non-entities through the back door. Then when the transfer window shuts they will say oh! dear we tried but were unsuccessful in getting the players we wanted.
TheTelegraph has today reported a potential 6 million bid.
Kean opens his gob,the Tykes aren't happy.
Lo and behold,the local rag,with no quotes from anybody,says that it is now a derisory 2 million + 2 million.
And there we have it,the Telegraph is the one making things up.
I don't know who is right and who is wrong.
No one on here knows who is right and who is wrong.
Proof,if any was needed, how much some people on here want Rovers and Kean to fail.
i think the headline says blackburn bid , the details or something like that.
kingy999
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7:39pm Tue 7 Aug 12
givet82 wrote:I THINK GIVET NEEDS TO LEARN HOW TO SPELL PROPERLY BEFORE HE CALLS OTHER PEOPLE DUMB!
Kermit The Frog wrote:Read the last sentence i wrote gobsh!te, your the arrogant one who doesn't read and digest information. I smell a dumb dingle
givet82 wrote:I am sure it was
Kermit The Frog wrote:Uh that was excactly my point!
givet82 wrote:Oh the arrogance, have a look at the fledgling Championship table - you will find that amazingly enough Blackburn are now in the same division as Huddersfield Town and therefore are RIVALS.
Worrying times when huddersfield consider us rivals, also i think going public is most of the time a decent tactical move to land a player IF you are a big blub with massive intentions, unfortunetly for Rovers Rhodes will not consider us a massive step up so probably won't force a move!
The days of Man Utd being your rivals are over sunshine - get with the programme.
Rover Pete
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7:48pm Tue 7 Aug 12
We will never have one of those until clown Kean leaves. Then we can have some fun. If there is any club left by then..
baldie
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8:02pm Tue 7 Aug 12
pbirty wrote:Yesterday they said potential 6 million.
baldie wrote:read huddersfield examiner. 2 mill with 4 mill dependant on appearances. as venkys wont play him enough to trigger the further 4 mill(as we all now they wont) HT said no.
givet82 wrote:The Huddersfield paper yesterday reported a potential 6 million bid.
A Darener wrote:I don't think huddersfield local paper would be lying. Any Rover who thinks it's a Venky/Kean pr stunt google it first
When will all you fans out there get it into your head that any mention of spending on a player is pure BS. Whilst you are all salivating at the thought of a high profile player coming for millions the club are actually slipping non-entities through the back door. Then when the transfer window shuts they will say oh! dear we tried but were unsuccessful in getting the players we wanted.
TheTelegraph has today reported a potential 6 million bid.
Kean opens his gob,the Tykes aren't happy.
Lo and behold,the local rag,with no quotes from anybody,says that it is now a derisory 2 million + 2 million.
And there we have it,the Telegraph is the one making things up.
I don't know who is right and who is wrong.
No one on here knows who is right and who is wrong.
Proof,if any was needed, how much some people on here want Rovers and Kean to fail.
i think the headline says blackburn bid , the details or something like that.
Read today's,it says 2 mill + another 2 million depending on appearences
Looks to me as if the local paper is helping the local club out.
whittaker0
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8:25pm Tue 7 Aug 12
PaulHay
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8:52pm Tue 7 Aug 12
GAZHAY wrote:Here here
Surprise surprise, the headline everybody who still haven't had their heads brainwashed by this lot knew would be coming. Absolutely no way on this earth would we bid that amount and he would sign for Kean. When will everybody wake up. Whilst the buffoon is here nobody with ambition wants to sign and come to this hell hole!!!!
roverfor60years
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9:50pm Tue 7 Aug 12
I don’t know how Hendry fits into this ‘structure’, but if you had said Shaw, Agnew and Singh it would have been more understandable. Even then, bums on seats, yes, but hardly a ‘structure’.
Singh claims, as global advisor, to have responsibility and authority. I think that may well be dictated from Pune – hence the title. Time will tell. The only encouraging thing here for me is the fact that Kean will no longer be able to peddle his propaganda in Pune. I suspect he will soon be exposed.
As for Shaw and Agnew, I simply cannot understand that combination. A managing director should have responsibility with authority and be there to manage, but both claim they are working side by side in a ‘two-pronged attack’. What sort of an arrangement is that? What happens the first time they disagree?
And to have two ardent PNE fans ‘running’ the show at Ewood doesn’t fill me with much enthusiasm.
I know little about Shaw and Agnew apart from (uncomplimentary) reports about their tenures as chairman and ceo at PNE respectively, but certainly Agnew’s 20-month stint as Ewood press officer has been a non-event, short of ushering Kean to his seat in press conferences. Now after the shortest appointment on record as communications director he is promoted to operations director – whatever that means – to operate alongside the md.
So it doesn’t appear to me that any of them have the necessary responsibility and authority so in no way can it be described as a ‘structure’.
I agree with Whittaker0 – we have totally lost our way under Venky’s, Kean and the ‘advisors’ and in my view this is just another example of the mismanagement that has plagued our club from day one.
baldie
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9:51pm Tue 7 Aug 12
whittaker0 wrote:Huddersfield Town haven't said anything,just the bloke from the local paper.
I tend to believe Huddersfield Town as they are an honest ambitious club who would like to progress to the Premier League which is the opposite of Blackburn Rovers. A club who have totally lost their way under the guidance of the worst manager and the worst owners in the history of Blackburn Rovers. I expect Blackburn Rovers to be knocking on the door of the 1st Division come next April. The owners did a great disservice to Blackburn Rovers by not sacking Steve Kean.
Stone Island:
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9:52pm Tue 7 Aug 12
in moses we trust wrote:Prat.
Joke bid, as if Rhodes would want to join a club tht's the laughing stock of football. the only players Rovers are attracting are hasbeen's and never will be's.
idlewally
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10:36pm Tue 7 Aug 12
givet82 wrote:I dunno kean will have him convinced were the re-encarnation of Brazils 1970 team
MatthewCA wrote:That is without doubt matthew the most sensible posts you have ever made, don't think he will lower himself though especially with his ego
Nicklas Bendtner is available if he is fine to play in championship with blackburn.
garyintandem
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10:40pm Tue 7 Aug 12
French Rover wrote:
benal13 wrote:
French Rover wrote:
I just had a look at the Rovers transfer history over the two most recent periodsVery naive FR. Check how much the Venkys have made from players bought by WT.
Blackburn Yoof
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11:41pm Tue 7 Aug 12
burnleyglentoran
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11:58pm Tue 7 Aug 12
givet82 wrote:A new season.
Kermit The Frog wrote:Read the last sentence i wrote gobsh!te, your the arrogant one who doesn't read and digest information. I smell a dumb dingle
givet82 wrote:I am sure it was
Kermit The Frog wrote:Uh that was excactly my point!
givet82 wrote:Oh the arrogance, have a look at the fledgling Championship table - you will find that amazingly enough Blackburn are now in the same division as Huddersfield Town and therefore are RIVALS.
Worrying times when huddersfield consider us rivals, also i think going public is most of the time a decent tactical move to land a player IF you are a big blub with massive intentions, unfortunetly for Rovers Rhodes will not consider us a massive step up so probably won't force a move!
The days of Man Utd being your rivals are over sunshine - get with the programme.
Same old B******ds still deluded!!!!
NO NAY NEVER
burnleyglentoran
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12:04am Wed 8 Aug 12
RUinsane wrote:"picking all the best bits and leaving you with sprouts."
Kermit The Frog wrote:Hey up, looks like an uddersfield supporter felt that incensed that he created a log in just to comment??? I suppose its only natural when a far bigger club comes sniffing round your table, picking all the best bits and leaving you with sprouts.
givet82 wrote:Oh the arrogance, have a look at the fledgling Championship table - you will find that amazingly enough Blackburn are now in the same division as Huddersfield Town and therefore are RIVALS.
Worrying times when huddersfield consider us rivals, also i think going public is most of the time a decent tactical move to land a player IF you are a big blub with massive intentions, unfortunetly for Rovers Rhodes will not consider us a massive step up so probably won't force a move!
The days of Man Utd being your rivals are over sunshine - get with the programme.
That's the point of the story.
He's STILL WAITING for a bigger club.
So what does that say about B******ds?!
BRKFC - DELUDED SINCE 1872
gleechy
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12:11am Wed 8 Aug 12
RUinsane wrote:Well newsflash, you're not with deserters, you're with the pirates that took over temporarily until the money that used to be yours dries up and they have no use for you.
Harwoodstblue wrote:Definition of football supporter= someone who contributes to the upkeep of their club, their colours, their soldiers, their army and gives there support both financially and emotionally no matter, what competition, what league and what division they are in hail rain or shine.
pbirty wrote:I agree, childish, Well said
RUinsane wrote:it has nothing to do with not being in the pl and you now that. your just being obnoxious for the sake of it and trying to wind people up. kean is the reason why people are staying away. personally , if people want to go and support rovers , then do so. if you want to show your anger at the regime by not going, then do so. all this childish `im a proper supporter, your not` is a load of crap and kean must be loving it.
I'd be interested to know what Brag and Brist have to say about staying away or going. Any official release from them? Do we go and support the team or do we stay away.
Staunch thick and thin supporter, or Premier league glory hunter, what's the verdict???
It doesn't say it only applies when you are in the Glory Boy league.
I find all your comments distasteful and didn't know what a bunch of deserters I was siding with.
Kean out, Glory Boys out too. Come on You Blues
Chin up, you might learn to think for yourself when they have wipped you some more and you underrstand they don't change.
gleechy
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12:12am Wed 8 Aug 12
Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:I think you'll find FF has a club to run, badly.
Lancs - pensioner wrote:RU - You seem to be a new poster since Fickle Fan retired?
RUinsane wrote:I take your point RU, it should not be us against you, it should be what ever you think is right to get Kean out, we all think thats right.
benal13 wrote:I'm just flipping the coin, everyone on here calls the renewers, me I don't give a monkeys if you renew or not. I am. But those who renew are always slagged off so I slag those off who do not. I write premier league glory boys for these guys as I know it pushes their buttons. Just as they push mine by attacking those who renew. Take BENAL13 who is a typical premier league glory boy and wants to hide his desertion behind his innability to take relegation like a man. I know you've been here before Lancs and I understand why you are staying away, but what I can't get my head round is those who pick on those who want to go and watch. What difference does it make??? Hey by the way I like the PLGB abreviation I think I'll print a t shirt with, "I aint no PLGB" with a pic of MR T on it and "Grow some nuts" at the bottom.Lancs - pensioner wrote:i agree LP but i came to the conclusion ages ago that RUinsane ISRUinsane wrote:RUinsane, nothing new from you then, just the usual slagging off, no debate, god your boring! Why does everyone who disagrees with you have to be a PLGB, Port Vale away, great game Tony Fields goal from the half way line great goal No I am not a PLGB just some one with a few more brain cells than you who likes a good (sometimes funny) debate.Roy Race wrote:Premier league glory boy with no natcho'sLancs - pensioner wrote: Well well, what did I say 3 weeks ago Rhodes will never come to this circus, there chairman is backing his manager and club, they dont need to sell, there clubs in profit,and being run by good honest people who care about there club. Need I go on, it was NEVER going to happen, keep putting bids in that are unexceptable is just cheap publicity. Notice we managed to sign all the freebys with no problems. No you can fool some of the people some of the time but after 18 months of the same things happening you get used to Bull Sh!t coming out of Ewood. Another couple of examples if I remember correctly, We need to hit the ground running and get the players we want in early. We are serious when talking about Beckham, Ronaldo, Bull Sh!t and More Bull sh!t And b4 anyone says it, yes I got out of bed the wrong side this morning.Join me on the beach LP! . One of the 12,000 signing off for good. Time to move on rather than suffer these fools anymore LP.
I personaly am staying away
You are going
End off
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We all agreed whatever opinion about ST's not to turn blue against blue - so please catch up!
.
I will not renew whilst Kean is manager - and it seems from posters on here that 12,000+ others share that view. These are unpresedented times in out history.
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34th...
moh
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12:35am Wed 8 Aug 12
lusorover wrote:I agree with the sentiments, at least someone is being realistic.
Many posters on here seem to think that a significant reduction in attendances will bring about change at Ewood.
If 10000 people were to fail to buy a season ticket because of Kean / Venkys the financial hit to the Club would be only about 2.5 million.
Even to a financially-struggli
ng Club such as Rovers this is nothing and is easily recouped in player sales..
Please stop using the excuse of forcing Venkys arm for staying away.
If you don't want to watch your team then don't watch but don't pretend that your decision is born of some higher motive.
The atmosphere at the ground will be vastly improved if the moaners stay away.
It's football; it's our team. Ignore Kean. Have the strength of character to rise above the fact that we currently have a failure as a manager. It's not the first time and it certaily won't be the last.
If you truly believe that the Club is about the fans I suggest that you get yourselves down to Ewood and get behind the team so that you can have pride when Kean has gone and be able to say "I saw it through, Kean and Venks didn't stop me from supporting my team."
blueblooded
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5:29am Wed 8 Aug 12
burnleyglentoran wrote:think you should ask yourself what it says about you that you constantly feel the need to come and express yourself on articles where no-one gives a crap about, or have any respect for your inbred opinions.
givet82 wrote:A new season.
Kermit The Frog wrote:Read the last sentence i wrote gobsh!te, your the arrogant one who doesn't read and digest information. I smell a dumb dingle
givet82 wrote:I am sure it was
Kermit The Frog wrote:Uh that was excactly my point!
givet82 wrote:Oh the arrogance, have a look at the fledgling Championship table - you will find that amazingly enough Blackburn are now in the same division as Huddersfield Town and therefore are RIVALS.
Worrying times when huddersfield consider us rivals, also i think going public is most of the time a decent tactical move to land a player IF you are a big blub with massive intentions, unfortunetly for Rovers Rhodes will not consider us a massive step up so probably won't force a move!
The days of Man Utd being your rivals are over sunshine - get with the programme.
Same old B******ds still deluded!!!!
NO NAY NEVER
Now run along and play with your sister my insecure little fiend.
blueblooded
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6:03am Wed 8 Aug 12
The-Jerome-and-Steve-Show
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7:21am Wed 8 Aug 12
French Rover
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7:28am Wed 8 Aug 12
givet82 wrote:
French Rover wrote:
benal13 wrote:
French Rover wrote:
I just had a look at the Rovers transfer history over the two most recent periodsVery naive FR. Check how much the Venkys have made from players bought by WT.But that is normal football business GIT.....clubs buy players - clubs sell players. Doesnt matter who bought them - that is just being pedantic.
It is quite normal to sell a player without considering that the previous owners had bought them. Be kind of strange not to sell a player for that reason or not to sell a player for a profit because of that...
not naive - just realistic.
craignbburn
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7:44am Wed 8 Aug 12
BlueSkies wrote:So that's £2m then!
Huddersfield Examiner says £2m plus another £2m if we are promoted, and no sell-on clause. Needless to say, they were unimpressed.
blueblooded
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7:53am Wed 8 Aug 12
The-Jerome-and-Steveyeah, maybe another of keanos "one for the future" deals?
-Show wrote:
Jordan Slew has joined Stevenage on a season long loan blueblooded.
Rovers 1495
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8:33am Wed 8 Aug 12
bburnrover wrote:So what, exactly, is 'value for money' ? If we are talking about a striker, wouldn't it be someone who knocks in 40 goals in a season ? Or is that over simplifying things ?
I like everyone else wanted the Rovers to sign Rhodes but it isnt my money and I can understand the club wanting value for money.
A second division striker who scores 37 goals in that league should be able to score 20 in an higher league but if we recall Jon Stead he was brilliant when confident but when that went he was just another journeyman striker again,I always think its better to go for a Premiership striker who can score around 10 goals as he will have the skills to bang a lot more in a lower league.I dont like Bentner but I suppose he would score quite a few goals but he is arrogant and thinks he is a top striker,I expect Kean to discover a Portugese striker now unless he buys Austin off our mates down the road..
Rovers 1495
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8:35am Wed 8 Aug 12
azza234 wrote:Where ?
peely wrote:i read they offered 5.2 million for rhodes
"Rovers package believed to be around £6 million ". You,re havin a laugh ! Never in a million years did the chicken pluckers offer anything near this sum! Andy Cryer must have been brainwashed by Borat and his gang down at Ewood !
fickle fan
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8:51am Wed 8 Aug 12
Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:You never went when bfs was in charge you just moaned then like you do now
Lancs - pensioner wrote:RU - You seem to be a new poster since Fickle Fan retired?
RUinsane wrote:I take your point RU, it should not be us against you, it should be what ever you think is right to get Kean out, we all think thats right.
benal13 wrote:I'm just flipping the coin, everyone on here calls the renewers, me I don't give a monkeys if you renew or not. I am. But those who renew are always slagged off so I slag those off who do not. I write premier league glory boys for these guys as I know it pushes their buttons. Just as they push mine by attacking those who renew. Take BENAL13 who is a typical premier league glory boy and wants to hide his desertion behind his innability to take relegation like a man. I know you've been here before Lancs and I understand why you are staying away, but what I can't get my head round is those who pick on those who want to go and watch. What difference does it make??? Hey by the way I like the PLGB abreviation I think I'll print a t shirt with, "I aint no PLGB" with a pic of MR T on it and "Grow some nuts" at the bottom.Lancs - pensioner wrote:i agree LP but i came to the conclusion ages ago that RUinsane ISRUinsane wrote:RUinsane, nothing new from you then, just the usual slagging off, no debate, god your boring! Why does everyone who disagrees with you have to be a PLGB, Port Vale away, great game Tony Fields goal from the half way line great goal No I am not a PLGB just some one with a few more brain cells than you who likes a good (sometimes funny) debate.Roy Race wrote:Premier league glory boy with no natcho'sLancs - pensioner wrote: Well well, what did I say 3 weeks ago Rhodes will never come to this circus, there chairman is backing his manager and club, they dont need to sell, there clubs in profit,and being run by good honest people who care about there club. Need I go on, it was NEVER going to happen, keep putting bids in that are unexceptable is just cheap publicity. Notice we managed to sign all the freebys with no problems. No you can fool some of the people some of the time but after 18 months of the same things happening you get used to Bull Sh!t coming out of Ewood. Another couple of examples if I remember correctly, We need to hit the ground running and get the players we want in early. We are serious when talking about Beckham, Ronaldo, Bull Sh!t and More Bull sh!t And b4 anyone says it, yes I got out of bed the wrong side this morning.Join me on the beach LP! . One of the 12,000 signing off for good. Time to move on rather than suffer these fools anymore LP.
I personaly am staying away
You are going
End off
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We all agreed whatever opinion about ST's not to turn blue against blue - so please catch up!
.
I will not renew whilst Kean is manager - and it seems from posters on here that 12,000+ others share that view. These are unpresedented times in out history.
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34th...
fickle fan
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9:05am Wed 8 Aug 12
RUinsane wrote:I`m still here, laughing,all the moaners clinging to the conspiracy theories,
Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:I'm well aware of what you are trying to do in a sly way. As Fickle Fan was so hated on here what better way of trying to get everyone on my back. But if you look back, I existed before fickle fan was around and I'm still here now he's fooked off.
RUinsane wrote:RU Fickle fan?
in moses we trust wrote:Interesting perspective Notlobber, never beens? would that include 1 goal in 7 super striker Ngog, or 1 goal in 8 super striker Davies. I predicted last year to you that you would get relegated with us, Guess which one of us was right???
RUinsane wrote:Why, do you think the season has started. I'll tell you it's 18th of August. ease try and be better informed.
in moses we trust wrote:Have Bolton won a game yet??
Joke bid, as if Rhodes would want to join a club tht's the laughing stock of football. the only players Rovers are attracting are hasbeen's and never will be's.
I will also predict that Notlob will do fookall and in moses we most certainly trust.
I must admit Coyle is way better than Keanochio, but only operating as a secret agent. Keanochio is hated at ewood for taking us down, whereas you thick feckers think Coyle is ace, still you are a Notlob supporter, speaks volumes.
Coyle in!!!
Jack Herer
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9:24am Wed 8 Aug 12
fickle fan wrote:That's because you never went away, you just changed to different usernames.
RUinsane wrote:I`m still here, laughing,all the moaners clinging to the conspiracy theories,
Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:I'm well aware of what you are trying to do in a sly way. As Fickle Fan was so hated on here what better way of trying to get everyone on my back. But if you look back, I existed before fickle fan was around and I'm still here now he's fooked off.
RUinsane wrote:RU Fickle fan?
in moses we trust wrote:Interesting perspective Notlobber, never beens? would that include 1 goal in 7 super striker Ngog, or 1 goal in 8 super striker Davies. I predicted last year to you that you would get relegated with us, Guess which one of us was right???
RUinsane wrote:Why, do you think the season has started. I'll tell you it's 18th of August. ease try and be better informed.
in moses we trust wrote:Have Bolton won a game yet??
Joke bid, as if Rhodes would want to join a club tht's the laughing stock of football. the only players Rovers are attracting are hasbeen's and never will be's.
I will also predict that Notlob will do fookall and in moses we most certainly trust.
I must admit Coyle is way better than Keanochio, but only operating as a secret agent. Keanochio is hated at ewood for taking us down, whereas you thick feckers think Coyle is ace, still you are a Notlob supporter, speaks volumes.
Coyle in!!!
No one is clinging to conspiracy theories. Conspiracy theories create themselves by the continued actions of the owners.
No-one can understand why the Venkys are sticking with Steve Kean. No other football club in the world has stuck with such an unpopular manager, especially when it means alienating pretty much their entire fan base. The owners behaviour makes zero sense from any perspective - football, business, customer service, profit - none of it makes sense sticking with Kean.
Only conspiracy theories can explain the inexplicable. If the owners did normal sensible things then there would be no conspiracy theories, but they don't, they do the opposite. Hence conspiracy theories running amok.
Kean still been here is all the proof needed for a conspiracy theory. I'm not saying there is a conspiracy theory, but the proof is currently overwhelming that there is one. If the owners don't want conspiracy theories then they need to sack Kean, otherwise it's welcome to conspiracy city.
givet82
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9:39am Wed 8 Aug 12
Jack Herer wrote:Conspiracy theories are created by over the top drama queens who think they know whats going on. I quote one of your ridiculous over the top lines from your last statement. " No other football club in the world has stuck with such an unpopular maager". That is one of the most stupid non- factual statement i've ever heard, fair enough if you said the EPL or SPL but the WORLD!
fickle fan wrote:That's because you never went away, you just changed to different usernames.
RUinsane wrote:I`m still here, laughing,all the moaners clinging to the conspiracy theories,
Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:I'm well aware of what you are trying to do in a sly way. As Fickle Fan was so hated on here what better way of trying to get everyone on my back. But if you look back, I existed before fickle fan was around and I'm still here now he's fooked off.
RUinsane wrote:RU Fickle fan?
in moses we trust wrote:Interesting perspective Notlobber, never beens? would that include 1 goal in 7 super striker Ngog, or 1 goal in 8 super striker Davies. I predicted last year to you that you would get relegated with us, Guess which one of us was right???
RUinsane wrote:Why, do you think the season has started. I'll tell you it's 18th of August. ease try and be better informed.
in moses we trust wrote:Have Bolton won a game yet??
Joke bid, as if Rhodes would want to join a club tht's the laughing stock of football. the only players Rovers are attracting are hasbeen's and never will be's.
I will also predict that Notlob will do fookall and in moses we most certainly trust.
I must admit Coyle is way better than Keanochio, but only operating as a secret agent. Keanochio is hated at ewood for taking us down, whereas you thick feckers think Coyle is ace, still you are a Notlob supporter, speaks volumes.
Coyle in!!!
No one is clinging to conspiracy theories. Conspiracy theories create themselves by the continued actions of the owners.
No-one can understand why the Venkys are sticking with Steve Kean. No other football club in the world has stuck with such an unpopular manager, especially when it means alienating pretty much their entire fan base. The owners behaviour makes zero sense from any perspective - football, business, customer service, profit - none of it makes sense sticking with Kean.
Only conspiracy theories can explain the inexplicable. If the owners did normal sensible things then there would be no conspiracy theories, but they don't, they do the opposite. Hence conspiracy theories running amok.
Kean still been here is all the proof needed for a conspiracy theory. I'm not saying there is a conspiracy theory, but the proof is currently overwhelming that there is one. If the owners don't want conspiracy theories then they need to sack Kean, otherwise it's welcome to conspiracy city.
givet82
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9:43am Wed 8 Aug 12
lowelife
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9:43am Wed 8 Aug 12
baldie wrote:Kean has failed! And, therefore, by default have Rovers. Selective memory? Comfortable mid table position, enter Kean, lots of Walter Mitty type nonsense; survive the last game. Last season, humiliatingly relegated, family silver sold.
givet82 wrote:The Huddersfield paper yesterday reported a potential 6 million bid. TheTelegraph has today reported a potential 6 million bid. Kean opens his gob,the Tykes aren't happy. Lo and behold,the local rag,with no quotes from anybody,says that it is now a derisory 2 million + 2 million. And there we have it,the Telegraph is the one making things up. I don't know who is right and who is wrong. No one on here knows who is right and who is wrong. Proof,if any was needed, how much some people on here want Rovers and Kean to fail.A Darener wrote: When will all you fans out there get it into your head that any mention of spending on a player is pure BS. Whilst you are all salivating at the thought of a high profile player coming for millions the club are actually slipping non-entities through the back door. Then when the transfer window shuts they will say oh! dear we tried but were unsuccessful in getting the players we wanted.I don't think huddersfield local paper would be lying. Any Rover who thinks it's a Venky/Kean pr stunt google it first
"how much some people on here want Rovers and Kean to fail".
Wake up man, Kean is a total failure, the club has failed under him.
The future is about ressurection, that cannot be acheived under Kean. Simple.
Harwoodstblue
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10:01am Wed 8 Aug 12
lowelife wrote:Exactly........Sorry to disagree Baldie but everyone in football (except a few on here ) knows that Kean IS NOT A FOOTBALL MANAGER, but a total failure. If Rovers have any sort of future to look forward to, it's not under Kean.
baldie wrote:Kean has failed! And, therefore, by default have Rovers. Selective memory? Comfortable mid table position, enter Kean, lots of Walter Mitty type nonsense; survive the last game. Last season, humiliatingly relegated, family silver sold.
givet82 wrote:The Huddersfield paper yesterday reported a potential 6 million bid. TheTelegraph has today reported a potential 6 million bid. Kean opens his gob,the Tykes aren't happy. Lo and behold,the local rag,with no quotes from anybody,says that it is now a derisory 2 million + 2 million. And there we have it,the Telegraph is the one making things up. I don't know who is right and who is wrong. No one on here knows who is right and who is wrong. Proof,if any was needed, how much some people on here want Rovers and Kean to fail.A Darener wrote: When will all you fans out there get it into your head that any mention of spending on a player is pure BS. Whilst you are all salivating at the thought of a high profile player coming for millions the club are actually slipping non-entities through the back door. Then when the transfer window shuts they will say oh! dear we tried but were unsuccessful in getting the players we wanted.I don't think huddersfield local paper would be lying. Any Rover who thinks it's a Venky/Kean pr stunt google it first
"how much some people on here want Rovers and Kean to fail".
Wake up man, Kean is a total failure, the club has failed under him.
The future is about ressurection, that cannot be acheived under Kean. Simple.
fickle fan
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10:13am Wed 8 Aug 12
Jack Herer wrote:fool, you are guilty of creating conspiracy theories which other moaners latch onto. Heres one you have just created, I have never posted under any other name,
fickle fan wrote:That's because you never went away, you just changed to different usernames.
RUinsane wrote:I`m still here, laughing,all the moaners clinging to the conspiracy theories,
Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:I'm well aware of what you are trying to do in a sly way. As Fickle Fan was so hated on here what better way of trying to get everyone on my back. But if you look back, I existed before fickle fan was around and I'm still here now he's fooked off.
RUinsane wrote:RU Fickle fan?
in moses we trust wrote:Interesting perspective Notlobber, never beens? would that include 1 goal in 7 super striker Ngog, or 1 goal in 8 super striker Davies. I predicted last year to you that you would get relegated with us, Guess which one of us was right???
RUinsane wrote:Why, do you think the season has started. I'll tell you it's 18th of August. ease try and be better informed.
in moses we trust wrote:Have Bolton won a game yet??
Joke bid, as if Rhodes would want to join a club tht's the laughing stock of football. the only players Rovers are attracting are hasbeen's and never will be's.
I will also predict that Notlob will do fookall and in moses we most certainly trust.
I must admit Coyle is way better than Keanochio, but only operating as a secret agent. Keanochio is hated at ewood for taking us down, whereas you thick feckers think Coyle is ace, still you are a Notlob supporter, speaks volumes.
Coyle in!!!
No one is clinging to conspiracy theories. Conspiracy theories create themselves by the continued actions of the owners.
No-one can understand why the Venkys are sticking with Steve Kean. No other football club in the world has stuck with such an unpopular manager, especially when it means alienating pretty much their entire fan base. The owners behaviour makes zero sense from any perspective - football, business, customer service, profit - none of it makes sense sticking with Kean.
Only conspiracy theories can explain the inexplicable. If the owners did normal sensible things then there would be no conspiracy theories, but they don't, they do the opposite. Hence conspiracy theories running amok.
Kean still been here is all the proof needed for a conspiracy theory. I'm not saying there is a conspiracy theory, but the proof is currently overwhelming that there is one. If the owners don't want conspiracy theories then they need to sack Kean, otherwise it's welcome to conspiracy city.
you just made that up to make you look better, so you have told a lie exactly what you accuse the owners of doing,
MatthewCA
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10:21am Wed 8 Aug 12
ronnie clayton wrote:he is not getting play time, sitting in Arsenal bench dosen't make u better player too. we want him to play and see him in action like a big boy. see carrol..............
MatthewCA wrote: Nicklas Bendtner is available if he is fine to play in championship with blackburn.Bendtner`s on 52,000 pounds a week at Arsenal ! Kean and Hendry were seen at the bar at the Tickled Trout ,enjoying their national drink,they were seen playing Fantasy football , Kean spent all his money on Roy of the Rovers he thought he was a real person ,and Hendry had 5,000 grand for Burnley to win the championship !
..he play few match in first team of liverpool, everybody start noticing the big boy.............now he is a star, but Bendtner is still better than him.
gleechy
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10:25am Wed 8 Aug 12
Jack Herer wrote:The very fact that this user has the name fickle fan was a clue to it's identity, If Kean was to be bothered to get into the fans, he would say they are fickle.
fickle fan wrote:That's because you never went away, you just changed to different usernames.
RUinsane wrote:I`m still here, laughing,all the moaners clinging to the conspiracy theories,
Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:I'm well aware of what you are trying to do in a sly way. As Fickle Fan was so hated on here what better way of trying to get everyone on my back. But if you look back, I existed before fickle fan was around and I'm still here now he's fooked off.
RUinsane wrote:RU Fickle fan?
in moses we trust wrote:Interesting perspective Notlobber, never beens? would that include 1 goal in 7 super striker Ngog, or 1 goal in 8 super striker Davies. I predicted last year to you that you would get relegated with us, Guess which one of us was right???
RUinsane wrote:Why, do you think the season has started. I'll tell you it's 18th of August. ease try and be better informed.
in moses we trust wrote:Have Bolton won a game yet??
Joke bid, as if Rhodes would want to join a club tht's the laughing stock of football. the only players Rovers are attracting are hasbeen's and never will be's.
I will also predict that Notlob will do fookall and in moses we most certainly trust.
I must admit Coyle is way better than Keanochio, but only operating as a secret agent. Keanochio is hated at ewood for taking us down, whereas you thick feckers think Coyle is ace, still you are a Notlob supporter, speaks volumes.
Coyle in!!!
No one is clinging to conspiracy theories. Conspiracy theories create themselves by the continued actions of the owners.
No-one can understand why the Venkys are sticking with Steve Kean. No other football club in the world has stuck with such an unpopular manager, especially when it means alienating pretty much their entire fan base. The owners behaviour makes zero sense from any perspective - football, business, customer service, profit - none of it makes sense sticking with Kean.
Only conspiracy theories can explain the inexplicable. If the owners did normal sensible things then there would be no conspiracy theories, but they don't, they do the opposite. Hence conspiracy theories running amok.
Kean still been here is all the proof needed for a conspiracy theory. I'm not saying there is a conspiracy theory, but the proof is currently overwhelming that there is one. If the owners don't want conspiracy theories then they need to sack Kean, otherwise it's welcome to conspiracy city.
It pretended to go on holiday when Rovers went on pre season, so he could concentrate on bungling up the team.
I have also noticed that it's posts have a scottish accent, and would fit with Mr Kean's attitude.
And one of the biggest givaways is it distances itself from Venks without critisizing them, then challenges any one who argues to verify where it has supported Venks.
I'm 99% sure it's either Kean or as close to Kean's back passage as it can get.
Jack Herer
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10:45am Wed 8 Aug 12
givet82 wrote:No worries. Then name me a club anywhere in the world who have stuck with their manager in the face of such massive fan opposition.
Jack Herer wrote:Conspiracy theories are created by over the top drama queens who think they know whats going on. I quote one of your ridiculous over the top lines from your last statement. " No other football club in the world has stuck with such an unpopular maager". That is one of the most stupid non- factual statement i've ever heard, fair enough if you said the EPL or SPL but the WORLD!
fickle fan wrote:That's because you never went away, you just changed to different usernames.
RUinsane wrote:I`m still here, laughing,all the moaners clinging to the conspiracy theories,
Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:I'm well aware of what you are trying to do in a sly way. As Fickle Fan was so hated on here what better way of trying to get everyone on my back. But if you look back, I existed before fickle fan was around and I'm still here now he's fooked off.
RUinsane wrote:RU Fickle fan?
in moses we trust wrote:Interesting perspective Notlobber, never beens? would that include 1 goal in 7 super striker Ngog, or 1 goal in 8 super striker Davies. I predicted last year to you that you would get relegated with us, Guess which one of us was right???
RUinsane wrote:Why, do you think the season has started. I'll tell you it's 18th of August. ease try and be better informed.
in moses we trust wrote:Have Bolton won a game yet??
Joke bid, as if Rhodes would want to join a club tht's the laughing stock of football. the only players Rovers are attracting are hasbeen's and never will be's.
I will also predict that Notlob will do fookall and in moses we most certainly trust.
I must admit Coyle is way better than Keanochio, but only operating as a secret agent. Keanochio is hated at ewood for taking us down, whereas you thick feckers think Coyle is ace, still you are a Notlob supporter, speaks volumes.
Coyle in!!!
No one is clinging to conspiracy theories. Conspiracy theories create themselves by the continued actions of the owners.
No-one can understand why the Venkys are sticking with Steve Kean. No other football club in the world has stuck with such an unpopular manager, especially when it means alienating pretty much their entire fan base. The owners behaviour makes zero sense from any perspective - football, business, customer service, profit - none of it makes sense sticking with Kean.
Only conspiracy theories can explain the inexplicable. If the owners did normal sensible things then there would be no conspiracy theories, but they don't, they do the opposite. Hence conspiracy theories running amok.
Kean still been here is all the proof needed for a conspiracy theory. I'm not saying there is a conspiracy theory, but the proof is currently overwhelming that there is one. If the owners don't want conspiracy theories then they need to sack Kean, otherwise it's welcome to conspiracy city.
If you can't then I'm sorry but it isn't a stupid statement.
fickle fan
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10:47am Wed 8 Aug 12
gleechy wrote:ha quote from keith lard, (gleechy)
Jack Herer wrote:The very fact that this user has the name fickle fan was a clue to it's identity, If Kean was to be bothered to get into the fans, he would say they are fickle.
fickle fan wrote:That's because you never went away, you just changed to different usernames.
RUinsane wrote:I`m still here, laughing,all the moaners clinging to the conspiracy theories,
Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:I'm well aware of what you are trying to do in a sly way. As Fickle Fan was so hated on here what better way of trying to get everyone on my back. But if you look back, I existed before fickle fan was around and I'm still here now he's fooked off.
RUinsane wrote:RU Fickle fan?
in moses we trust wrote:Interesting perspective Notlobber, never beens? would that include 1 goal in 7 super striker Ngog, or 1 goal in 8 super striker Davies. I predicted last year to you that you would get relegated with us, Guess which one of us was right???
RUinsane wrote:Why, do you think the season has started. I'll tell you it's 18th of August. ease try and be better informed.
in moses we trust wrote:Have Bolton won a game yet??
Joke bid, as if Rhodes would want to join a club tht's the laughing stock of football. the only players Rovers are attracting are hasbeen's and never will be's.
I will also predict that Notlob will do fookall and in moses we most certainly trust.
I must admit Coyle is way better than Keanochio, but only operating as a secret agent. Keanochio is hated at ewood for taking us down, whereas you thick feckers think Coyle is ace, still you are a Notlob supporter, speaks volumes.
Coyle in!!!
No one is clinging to conspiracy theories. Conspiracy theories create themselves by the continued actions of the owners.
No-one can understand why the Venkys are sticking with Steve Kean. No other football club in the world has stuck with such an unpopular manager, especially when it means alienating pretty much their entire fan base. The owners behaviour makes zero sense from any perspective - football, business, customer service, profit - none of it makes sense sticking with Kean.
Only conspiracy theories can explain the inexplicable. If the owners did normal sensible things then there would be no conspiracy theories, but they don't, they do the opposite. Hence conspiracy theories running amok.
Kean still been here is all the proof needed for a conspiracy theory. I'm not saying there is a conspiracy theory, but the proof is currently overwhelming that there is one. If the owners don't want conspiracy theories then they need to sack Kean, otherwise it's welcome to conspiracy city.
It pretended to go on holiday when Rovers went on pre season, so he could concentrate on bungling up the team.
I have also noticed that it's posts have a scottish accent, and would fit with Mr Kean's attitude.
And one of the biggest givaways is it distances itself from Venks without critisizing them, then challenges any one who argues to verify where it has supported Venks.
I'm 99% sure it's either Kean or as close to Kean's back passage as it can get.
any one who reads his posts will note that there are to many sexual references hidden within his moans to be of coincidence, he continually mentions beasts with either 4 or 2 legs or refers to private parts in this case "back passage" for this reason I will not reply to his posts and kindly requests he dosent quote on mine, I wondered if he was the guy arrested in a field in ossie,
we all know what happened to keith lard
Jack Herer
says...
10:47am Wed 8 Aug 12
gleechy wrote:Agreed - fickle fan is either doing an amazing impression of Kean or they are Kean, because they are saying exactly the same thing he does.
Jack Herer wrote:The very fact that this user has the name fickle fan was a clue to it's identity, If Kean was to be bothered to get into the fans, he would say they are fickle.
fickle fan wrote:That's because you never went away, you just changed to different usernames.
RUinsane wrote:I`m still here, laughing,all the moaners clinging to the conspiracy theories,
Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:I'm well aware of what you are trying to do in a sly way. As Fickle Fan was so hated on here what better way of trying to get everyone on my back. But if you look back, I existed before fickle fan was around and I'm still here now he's fooked off.
RUinsane wrote:RU Fickle fan?
in moses we trust wrote:Interesting perspective Notlobber, never beens? would that include 1 goal in 7 super striker Ngog, or 1 goal in 8 super striker Davies. I predicted last year to you that you would get relegated with us, Guess which one of us was right???
RUinsane wrote:Why, do you think the season has started. I'll tell you it's 18th of August. ease try and be better informed.
in moses we trust wrote:Have Bolton won a game yet??
Joke bid, as if Rhodes would want to join a club tht's the laughing stock of football. the only players Rovers are attracting are hasbeen's and never will be's.
I will also predict that Notlob will do fookall and in moses we most certainly trust.
I must admit Coyle is way better than Keanochio, but only operating as a secret agent. Keanochio is hated at ewood for taking us down, whereas you thick feckers think Coyle is ace, still you are a Notlob supporter, speaks volumes.
Coyle in!!!
No one is clinging to conspiracy theories. Conspiracy theories create themselves by the continued actions of the owners.
No-one can understand why the Venkys are sticking with Steve Kean. No other football club in the world has stuck with such an unpopular manager, especially when it means alienating pretty much their entire fan base. The owners behaviour makes zero sense from any perspective - football, business, customer service, profit - none of it makes sense sticking with Kean.
Only conspiracy theories can explain the inexplicable. If the owners did normal sensible things then there would be no conspiracy theories, but they don't, they do the opposite. Hence conspiracy theories running amok.
Kean still been here is all the proof needed for a conspiracy theory. I'm not saying there is a conspiracy theory, but the proof is currently overwhelming that there is one. If the owners don't want conspiracy theories then they need to sack Kean, otherwise it's welcome to conspiracy city.
It pretended to go on holiday when Rovers went on pre season, so he could concentrate on bungling up the team.
I have also noticed that it's posts have a scottish accent, and would fit with Mr Kean's attitude.
And one of the biggest givaways is it distances itself from Venks without critisizing them, then challenges any one who argues to verify where it has supported Venks.
I'm 99% sure it's either Kean or as close to Kean's back passage as it can get.
fickle fan
says...
11:03am Wed 8 Aug 12
Jack Herer wrote:Now admit you were wrong,
gleechy wrote:Agreed - fickle fan is either doing an amazing impression of Kean or they are Kean, because they are saying exactly the same thing he does.
Jack Herer wrote:The very fact that this user has the name fickle fan was a clue to it's identity, If Kean was to be bothered to get into the fans, he would say they are fickle.
fickle fan wrote:That's because you never went away, you just changed to different usernames.
RUinsane wrote:I`m still here, laughing,all the moaners clinging to the conspiracy theories,
Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:I'm well aware of what you are trying to do in a sly way. As Fickle Fan was so hated on here what better way of trying to get everyone on my back. But if you look back, I existed before fickle fan was around and I'm still here now he's fooked off.
RUinsane wrote:RU Fickle fan?
in moses we trust wrote:Interesting perspective Notlobber, never beens? would that include 1 goal in 7 super striker Ngog, or 1 goal in 8 super striker Davies. I predicted last year to you that you would get relegated with us, Guess which one of us was right???
RUinsane wrote:Why, do you think the season has started. I'll tell you it's 18th of August. ease try and be better informed.
in moses we trust wrote:Have Bolton won a game yet??
Joke bid, as if Rhodes would want to join a club tht's the laughing stock of football. the only players Rovers are attracting are hasbeen's and never will be's.
I will also predict that Notlob will do fookall and in moses we most certainly trust.
I must admit Coyle is way better than Keanochio, but only operating as a secret agent. Keanochio is hated at ewood for taking us down, whereas you thick feckers think Coyle is ace, still you are a Notlob supporter, speaks volumes.
Coyle in!!!
No one is clinging to conspiracy theories. Conspiracy theories create themselves by the continued actions of the owners.
No-one can understand why the Venkys are sticking with Steve Kean. No other football club in the world has stuck with such an unpopular manager, especially when it means alienating pretty much their entire fan base. The owners behaviour makes zero sense from any perspective - football, business, customer service, profit - none of it makes sense sticking with Kean.
Only conspiracy theories can explain the inexplicable. If the owners did normal sensible things then there would be no conspiracy theories, but they don't, they do the opposite. Hence conspiracy theories running amok.
Kean still been here is all the proof needed for a conspiracy theory. I'm not saying there is a conspiracy theory, but the proof is currently overwhelming that there is one. If the owners don't want conspiracy theories then they need to sack Kean, otherwise it's welcome to conspiracy city.
It pretended to go on holiday when Rovers went on pre season, so he could concentrate on bungling up the team.
I have also noticed that it's posts have a scottish accent, and would fit with Mr Kean's attitude.
And one of the biggest givaways is it distances itself from Venks without critisizing them, then challenges any one who argues to verify where it has supported Venks.
I'm 99% sure it's either Kean or as close to Kean's back passage as it can get.
you are doing exactly the same as kean telling lies and bullsh**ing
waiting
Jack Herer
says...
11:26am Wed 8 Aug 12
fickle fan wrote:Lol - fickle fan, the worst thing for you would be for someone to look through your posts and blueblooded's and so on's,because amongst other things, late on a Friday night they have a tendency to swap usernames and then forget who they were posting as by mistake. Remember blueblooded / lusorovers doing that?
Jack Herer wrote:Now admit you were wrong,
gleechy wrote:Agreed - fickle fan is either doing an amazing impression of Kean or they are Kean, because they are saying exactly the same thing he does.
Jack Herer wrote:The very fact that this user has the name fickle fan was a clue to it's identity, If Kean was to be bothered to get into the fans, he would say they are fickle.
fickle fan wrote:That's because you never went away, you just changed to different usernames.
RUinsane wrote:I`m still here, laughing,all the moaners clinging to the conspiracy theories,
Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:I'm well aware of what you are trying to do in a sly way. As Fickle Fan was so hated on here what better way of trying to get everyone on my back. But if you look back, I existed before fickle fan was around and I'm still here now he's fooked off.
RUinsane wrote:RU Fickle fan?
in moses we trust wrote:Interesting perspective Notlobber, never beens? would that include 1 goal in 7 super striker Ngog, or 1 goal in 8 super striker Davies. I predicted last year to you that you would get relegated with us, Guess which one of us was right???
RUinsane wrote:Why, do you think the season has started. I'll tell you it's 18th of August. ease try and be better informed.
in moses we trust wrote:Have Bolton won a game yet??
Joke bid, as if Rhodes would want to join a club tht's the laughing stock of football. the only players Rovers are attracting are hasbeen's and never will be's.
I will also predict that Notlob will do fookall and in moses we most certainly trust.
I must admit Coyle is way better than Keanochio, but only operating as a secret agent. Keanochio is hated at ewood for taking us down, whereas you thick feckers think Coyle is ace, still you are a Notlob supporter, speaks volumes.
Coyle in!!!
No one is clinging to conspiracy theories. Conspiracy theories create themselves by the continued actions of the owners.
No-one can understand why the Venkys are sticking with Steve Kean. No other football club in the world has stuck with such an unpopular manager, especially when it means alienating pretty much their entire fan base. The owners behaviour makes zero sense from any perspective - football, business, customer service, profit - none of it makes sense sticking with Kean.
Only conspiracy theories can explain the inexplicable. If the owners did normal sensible things then there would be no conspiracy theories, but they don't, they do the opposite. Hence conspiracy theories running amok.
Kean still been here is all the proof needed for a conspiracy theory. I'm not saying there is a conspiracy theory, but the proof is currently overwhelming that there is one. If the owners don't want conspiracy theories then they need to sack Kean, otherwise it's welcome to conspiracy city.
It pretended to go on holiday when Rovers went on pre season, so he could concentrate on bungling up the team.
I have also noticed that it's posts have a scottish accent, and would fit with Mr Kean's attitude.
And one of the biggest givaways is it distances itself from Venks without critisizing them, then challenges any one who argues to verify where it has supported Venks.
I'm 99% sure it's either Kean or as close to Kean's back passage as it can get.
you are doing exactly the same as kean telling lies and bullsh**ing
waiting
It would be doubly bad because it would also bring back up that very very suspicious behaviour where people's photos were posted online etc. Extremely suspicious and dark behaviour seemed to occur from those users, especially late on a Friday night, which is when I'd hazard a guess you'd had one too many. Remember when lusorovers did that? It was wrong on so many levels.
That extremely suspicious behaviour only came from those like you who want us to just "get behind the team" and forget what has gone on. The real fans don't act suspicious, only people like you. Very very suspicious.
RUinsane
says...
12:11pm Wed 8 Aug 12
fickle fan
says...
1:02pm Wed 8 Aug 12
Jack Herer wrote:You really are sad, read what you are writing you are making up a conspiracy theory because you believe your own bullsh**
fickle fan wrote:Lol - fickle fan, the worst thing for you would be for someone to look through your posts and blueblooded's and so on's,because amongst other things, late on a Friday night they have a tendency to swap usernames and then forget who they were posting as by mistake. Remember blueblooded / lusorovers doing that?
Jack Herer wrote:Now admit you were wrong,
gleechy wrote:Agreed - fickle fan is either doing an amazing impression of Kean or they are Kean, because they are saying exactly the same thing he does.
Jack Herer wrote:The very fact that this user has the name fickle fan was a clue to it's identity, If Kean was to be bothered to get into the fans, he would say they are fickle.
fickle fan wrote:That's because you never went away, you just changed to different usernames.
RUinsane wrote:I`m still here, laughing,all the moaners clinging to the conspiracy theories,
Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:I'm well aware of what you are trying to do in a sly way. As Fickle Fan was so hated on here what better way of trying to get everyone on my back. But if you look back, I existed before fickle fan was around and I'm still here now he's fooked off.
RUinsane wrote:RU Fickle fan?
in moses we trust wrote:Interesting perspective Notlobber, never beens? would that include 1 goal in 7 super striker Ngog, or 1 goal in 8 super striker Davies. I predicted last year to you that you would get relegated with us, Guess which one of us was right???
RUinsane wrote:Why, do you think the season has started. I'll tell you it's 18th of August. ease try and be better informed.
in moses we trust wrote:Have Bolton won a game yet??
Joke bid, as if Rhodes would want to join a club tht's the laughing stock of football. the only players Rovers are attracting are hasbeen's and never will be's.
I will also predict that Notlob will do fookall and in moses we most certainly trust.
I must admit Coyle is way better than Keanochio, but only operating as a secret agent. Keanochio is hated at ewood for taking us down, whereas you thick feckers think Coyle is ace, still you are a Notlob supporter, speaks volumes.
Coyle in!!!
No one is clinging to conspiracy theories. Conspiracy theories create themselves by the continued actions of the owners.
No-one can understand why the Venkys are sticking with Steve Kean. No other football club in the world has stuck with such an unpopular manager, especially when it means alienating pretty much their entire fan base. The owners behaviour makes zero sense from any perspective - football, business, customer service, profit - none of it makes sense sticking with Kean.
Only conspiracy theories can explain the inexplicable. If the owners did normal sensible things then there would be no conspiracy theories, but they don't, they do the opposite. Hence conspiracy theories running amok.
Kean still been here is all the proof needed for a conspiracy theory. I'm not saying there is a conspiracy theory, but the proof is currently overwhelming that there is one. If the owners don't want conspiracy theories then they need to sack Kean, otherwise it's welcome to conspiracy city.
It pretended to go on holiday when Rovers went on pre season, so he could concentrate on bungling up the team.
I have also noticed that it's posts have a scottish accent, and would fit with Mr Kean's attitude.
And one of the biggest givaways is it distances itself from Venks without critisizing them, then challenges any one who argues to verify where it has supported Venks.
I'm 99% sure it's either Kean or as close to Kean's back passage as it can get.
you are doing exactly the same as kean telling lies and bullsh**ing
waiting
It would be doubly bad because it would also bring back up that very very suspicious behaviour where people's photos were posted online etc. Extremely suspicious and dark behaviour seemed to occur from those users, especially late on a Friday night, which is when I'd hazard a guess you'd had one too many. Remember when lusorovers did that? It was wrong on so many levels.
That extremely suspicious behaviour only came from those like you who want us to just "get behind the team" and forget what has gone on. The real fans don't act suspicious, only people like you. Very very suspicious.
SK tells lies and comes out with bullsh** you are in the same class,
you are telling lies and spouting bull.
now to make it easy for you I have not posted under any other name, live with it
now admit you are wrong and you are a sad little liar and bullsh***er or prove otherwise,
Harwoodstblue
says...
2:01pm Wed 8 Aug 12
fickle fan wrote:YOU prove YOU are not a bullshi**er. Because you talk a load of cr*p.
Jack Herer wrote:You really are sad, read what you are writing you are making up a conspiracy theory because you believe your own bullsh**
fickle fan wrote:Lol - fickle fan, the worst thing for you would be for someone to look through your posts and blueblooded's and so on's,because amongst other things, late on a Friday night they have a tendency to swap usernames and then forget who they were posting as by mistake. Remember blueblooded / lusorovers doing that?
Jack Herer wrote:Now admit you were wrong,
gleechy wrote:Agreed - fickle fan is either doing an amazing impression of Kean or they are Kean, because they are saying exactly the same thing he does.
Jack Herer wrote:The very fact that this user has the name fickle fan was a clue to it's identity, If Kean was to be bothered to get into the fans, he would say they are fickle.
fickle fan wrote:That's because you never went away, you just changed to different usernames.
RUinsane wrote:I`m still here, laughing,all the moaners clinging to the conspiracy theories,
Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:I'm well aware of what you are trying to do in a sly way. As Fickle Fan was so hated on here what better way of trying to get everyone on my back. But if you look back, I existed before fickle fan was around and I'm still here now he's fooked off.
RUinsane wrote:RU Fickle fan?
in moses we trust wrote:Interesting perspective Notlobber, never beens? would that include 1 goal in 7 super striker Ngog, or 1 goal in 8 super striker Davies. I predicted last year to you that you would get relegated with us, Guess which one of us was right???
RUinsane wrote:Why, do you think the season has started. I'll tell you it's 18th of August. ease try and be better informed.
in moses we trust wrote:Have Bolton won a game yet??
Joke bid, as if Rhodes would want to join a club tht's the laughing stock of football. the only players Rovers are attracting are hasbeen's and never will be's.
I will also predict that Notlob will do fookall and in moses we most certainly trust.
I must admit Coyle is way better than Keanochio, but only operating as a secret agent. Keanochio is hated at ewood for taking us down, whereas you thick feckers think Coyle is ace, still you are a Notlob supporter, speaks volumes.
Coyle in!!!
No one is clinging to conspiracy theories. Conspiracy theories create themselves by the continued actions of the owners.
No-one can understand why the Venkys are sticking with Steve Kean. No other football club in the world has stuck with such an unpopular manager, especially when it means alienating pretty much their entire fan base. The owners behaviour makes zero sense from any perspective - football, business, customer service, profit - none of it makes sense sticking with Kean.
Only conspiracy theories can explain the inexplicable. If the owners did normal sensible things then there would be no conspiracy theories, but they don't, they do the opposite. Hence conspiracy theories running amok.
Kean still been here is all the proof needed for a conspiracy theory. I'm not saying there is a conspiracy theory, but the proof is currently overwhelming that there is one. If the owners don't want conspiracy theories then they need to sack Kean, otherwise it's welcome to conspiracy city.
It pretended to go on holiday when Rovers went on pre season, so he could concentrate on bungling up the team.
I have also noticed that it's posts have a scottish accent, and would fit with Mr Kean's attitude.
And one of the biggest givaways is it distances itself from Venks without critisizing them, then challenges any one who argues to verify where it has supported Venks.
I'm 99% sure it's either Kean or as close to Kean's back passage as it can get.
you are doing exactly the same as kean telling lies and bullsh**ing
waiting
It would be doubly bad because it would also bring back up that very very suspicious behaviour where people's photos were posted online etc. Extremely suspicious and dark behaviour seemed to occur from those users, especially late on a Friday night, which is when I'd hazard a guess you'd had one too many. Remember when lusorovers did that? It was wrong on so many levels.
That extremely suspicious behaviour only came from those like you who want us to just "get behind the team" and forget what has gone on. The real fans don't act suspicious, only people like you. Very very suspicious.
SK tells lies and comes out with bullsh** you are in the same class,
you are telling lies and spouting bull.
now to make it easy for you I have not posted under any other name, live with it
now admit you are wrong and you are a sad little liar and bullsh***er or prove otherwise,
gleechy
says...
2:09pm Wed 8 Aug 12
fickle fan wrote:Fickle is in a pickle. I can't follow half his posts, when he loses an argument he starts making things up about his childhood events.
gleechy wrote:ha quote from keith lard, (gleechy)
Jack Herer wrote:The very fact that this user has the name fickle fan was a clue to it's identity, If Kean was to be bothered to get into the fans, he would say they are fickle.
fickle fan wrote:That's because you never went away, you just changed to different usernames.
RUinsane wrote:I`m still here, laughing,all the moaners clinging to the conspiracy theories,
Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:I'm well aware of what you are trying to do in a sly way. As Fickle Fan was so hated on here what better way of trying to get everyone on my back. But if you look back, I existed before fickle fan was around and I'm still here now he's fooked off.
RUinsane wrote:RU Fickle fan?
in moses we trust wrote:Interesting perspective Notlobber, never beens? would that include 1 goal in 7 super striker Ngog, or 1 goal in 8 super striker Davies. I predicted last year to you that you would get relegated with us, Guess which one of us was right???
RUinsane wrote:Why, do you think the season has started. I'll tell you it's 18th of August. ease try and be better informed.
in moses we trust wrote:Have Bolton won a game yet??
Joke bid, as if Rhodes would want to join a club tht's the laughing stock of football. the only players Rovers are attracting are hasbeen's and never will be's.
I will also predict that Notlob will do fookall and in moses we most certainly trust.
I must admit Coyle is way better than Keanochio, but only operating as a secret agent. Keanochio is hated at ewood for taking us down, whereas you thick feckers think Coyle is ace, still you are a Notlob supporter, speaks volumes.
Coyle in!!!
No one is clinging to conspiracy theories. Conspiracy theories create themselves by the continued actions of the owners.
No-one can understand why the Venkys are sticking with Steve Kean. No other football club in the world has stuck with such an unpopular manager, especially when it means alienating pretty much their entire fan base. The owners behaviour makes zero sense from any perspective - football, business, customer service, profit - none of it makes sense sticking with Kean.
Only conspiracy theories can explain the inexplicable. If the owners did normal sensible things then there would be no conspiracy theories, but they don't, they do the opposite. Hence conspiracy theories running amok.
Kean still been here is all the proof needed for a conspiracy theory. I'm not saying there is a conspiracy theory, but the proof is currently overwhelming that there is one. If the owners don't want conspiracy theories then they need to sack Kean, otherwise it's welcome to conspiracy city.
It pretended to go on holiday when Rovers went on pre season, so he could concentrate on bungling up the team.
I have also noticed that it's posts have a scottish accent, and would fit with Mr Kean's attitude.
And one of the biggest givaways is it distances itself from Venks without critisizing them, then challenges any one who argues to verify where it has supported Venks.
I'm 99% sure it's either Kean or as close to Kean's back passage as it can get.
any one who reads his posts will note that there are to many sexual references hidden within his moans to be of coincidence, he continually mentions beasts with either 4 or 2 legs or refers to private parts in this case "back passage" for this reason I will not reply to his posts and kindly requests he dosent quote on mine, I wondered if he was the guy arrested in a field in ossie,
we all know what happened to keith lard
Some of the people he invents are wayward and probably only known to Fickle in a pickle.
I think we've found the squirming liar that is Kean.
gleechy
says...
2:21pm Wed 8 Aug 12
fickle fan wrote:Call me ignorant, but I don't know your friend Kieth Lard, have you any more fairy stories for us?
gleechy wrote:ha quote from keith lard, (gleechy)
Jack Herer wrote:The very fact that this user has the name fickle fan was a clue to it's identity, If Kean was to be bothered to get into the fans, he would say they are fickle.
fickle fan wrote:That's because you never went away, you just changed to different usernames.
RUinsane wrote:I`m still here, laughing,all the moaners clinging to the conspiracy theories,
Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:I'm well aware of what you are trying to do in a sly way. As Fickle Fan was so hated on here what better way of trying to get everyone on my back. But if you look back, I existed before fickle fan was around and I'm still here now he's fooked off.
RUinsane wrote:RU Fickle fan?
in moses we trust wrote:Interesting perspective Notlobber, never beens? would that include 1 goal in 7 super striker Ngog, or 1 goal in 8 super striker Davies. I predicted last year to you that you would get relegated with us, Guess which one of us was right???
RUinsane wrote:Why, do you think the season has started. I'll tell you it's 18th of August. ease try and be better informed.
in moses we trust wrote:Have Bolton won a game yet??
Joke bid, as if Rhodes would want to join a club tht's the laughing stock of football. the only players Rovers are attracting are hasbeen's and never will be's.
I will also predict that Notlob will do fookall and in moses we most certainly trust.
I must admit Coyle is way better than Keanochio, but only operating as a secret agent. Keanochio is hated at ewood for taking us down, whereas you thick feckers think Coyle is ace, still you are a Notlob supporter, speaks volumes.
Coyle in!!!
No one is clinging to conspiracy theories. Conspiracy theories create themselves by the continued actions of the owners.
No-one can understand why the Venkys are sticking with Steve Kean. No other football club in the world has stuck with such an unpopular manager, especially when it means alienating pretty much their entire fan base. The owners behaviour makes zero sense from any perspective - football, business, customer service, profit - none of it makes sense sticking with Kean.
Only conspiracy theories can explain the inexplicable. If the owners did normal sensible things then there would be no conspiracy theories, but they don't, they do the opposite. Hence conspiracy theories running amok.
Kean still been here is all the proof needed for a conspiracy theory. I'm not saying there is a conspiracy theory, but the proof is currently overwhelming that there is one. If the owners don't want conspiracy theories then they need to sack Kean, otherwise it's welcome to conspiracy city.
It pretended to go on holiday when Rovers went on pre season, so he could concentrate on bungling up the team.
I have also noticed that it's posts have a scottish accent, and would fit with Mr Kean's attitude.
And one of the biggest givaways is it distances itself from Venks without critisizing them, then challenges any one who argues to verify where it has supported Venks.
I'm 99% sure it's either Kean or as close to Kean's back passage as it can get.
any one who reads his posts will note that there are to many sexual references hidden within his moans to be of coincidence, he continually mentions beasts with either 4 or 2 legs or refers to private parts in this case "back passage" for this reason I will not reply to his posts and kindly requests he dosent quote on mine, I wondered if he was the guy arrested in a field in ossie,
we all know what happened to keith lard
I really don't think you have as big an audience as you think Pickle, but your stories are on a par with Kean's.
And your childish references have backfired as you are the only one seeing all these links to your childhood dreams.
fickle fan
says...
3:24pm Wed 8 Aug 12
gleechy wrote:ha quote from keith lard, (gleechy)
fickle fan wrote:Call me ignorant, but I don't know your friend Kieth Lard, have you any more fairy stories for us?
gleechy wrote:ha quote from keith lard, (gleechy)
Jack Herer wrote:The very fact that this user has the name fickle fan was a clue to it's identity, If Kean was to be bothered to get into the fans, he would say they are fickle.
fickle fan wrote:That's because you never went away, you just changed to different usernames.
RUinsane wrote:I`m still here, laughing,all the moaners clinging to the conspiracy theories,
Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:I'm well aware of what you are trying to do in a sly way. As Fickle Fan was so hated on here what better way of trying to get everyone on my back. But if you look back, I existed before fickle fan was around and I'm still here now he's fooked off.
RUinsane wrote:RU Fickle fan?
in moses we trust wrote:Interesting perspective Notlobber, never beens? would that include 1 goal in 7 super striker Ngog, or 1 goal in 8 super striker Davies. I predicted last year to you that you would get relegated with us, Guess which one of us was right???
RUinsane wrote:Why, do you think the season has started. I'll tell you it's 18th of August. ease try and be better informed.
in moses we trust wrote:Have Bolton won a game yet??
Joke bid, as if Rhodes would want to join a club tht's the laughing stock of football. the only players Rovers are attracting are hasbeen's and never will be's.
I will also predict that Notlob will do fookall and in moses we most certainly trust.
I must admit Coyle is way better than Keanochio, but only operating as a secret agent. Keanochio is hated at ewood for taking us down, whereas you thick feckers think Coyle is ace, still you are a Notlob supporter, speaks volumes.
Coyle in!!!
No one is clinging to conspiracy theories. Conspiracy theories create themselves by the continued actions of the owners.
No-one can understand why the Venkys are sticking with Steve Kean. No other football club in the world has stuck with such an unpopular manager, especially when it means alienating pretty much their entire fan base. The owners behaviour makes zero sense from any perspective - football, business, customer service, profit - none of it makes sense sticking with Kean.
Only conspiracy theories can explain the inexplicable. If the owners did normal sensible things then there would be no conspiracy theories, but they don't, they do the opposite. Hence conspiracy theories running amok.
Kean still been here is all the proof needed for a conspiracy theory. I'm not saying there is a conspiracy theory, but the proof is currently overwhelming that there is one. If the owners don't want conspiracy theories then they need to sack Kean, otherwise it's welcome to conspiracy city.
It pretended to go on holiday when Rovers went on pre season, so he could concentrate on bungling up the team.
I have also noticed that it's posts have a scottish accent, and would fit with Mr Kean's attitude.
And one of the biggest givaways is it distances itself from Venks without critisizing them, then challenges any one who argues to verify where it has supported Venks.
I'm 99% sure it's either Kean or as close to Kean's back passage as it can get.
any one who reads his posts will note that there are to many sexual references hidden within his moans to be of coincidence, he continually mentions beasts with either 4 or 2 legs or refers to private parts in this case "back passage" for this reason I will not reply to his posts and kindly requests he dosent quote on mine, I wondered if he was the guy arrested in a field in ossie,
we all know what happened to keith lard
I really don't think you have as big an audience as you think Pickle, but your stories are on a par with Kean's.
And your childish references have backfired as you are the only one seeing all these links to your childhood dreams.
any one who reads his posts will note that there are to many sexual references hidden within his moans to be of coincidence, he continually mentions beasts with either 4 or 2 legs or refers to private parts in this case "back passage" for this reason I will not reply to his posts and kindly requests he dosent quote on mine, I wondered if he was the guy arrested in a field in ossie,
we all know what happened to keith lard
fickle fan
says...
3:28pm Wed 8 Aug 12
gleechy wrote:ha quote from keith lard, (gleechy)
fickle fan wrote:Fickle is in a pickle. I can't follow half his posts, when he loses an argument he starts making things up about his childhood events.
gleechy wrote:ha quote from keith lard, (gleechy)
Jack Herer wrote:The very fact that this user has the name fickle fan was a clue to it's identity, If Kean was to be bothered to get into the fans, he would say they are fickle.
fickle fan wrote:That's because you never went away, you just changed to different usernames.
RUinsane wrote:I`m still here, laughing,all the moaners clinging to the conspiracy theories,
Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:I'm well aware of what you are trying to do in a sly way. As Fickle Fan was so hated on here what better way of trying to get everyone on my back. But if you look back, I existed before fickle fan was around and I'm still here now he's fooked off.
RUinsane wrote:RU Fickle fan?
in moses we trust wrote:Interesting perspective Notlobber, never beens? would that include 1 goal in 7 super striker Ngog, or 1 goal in 8 super striker Davies. I predicted last year to you that you would get relegated with us, Guess which one of us was right???
RUinsane wrote:Why, do you think the season has started. I'll tell you it's 18th of August. ease try and be better informed.
in moses we trust wrote:Have Bolton won a game yet??
Joke bid, as if Rhodes would want to join a club tht's the laughing stock of football. the only players Rovers are attracting are hasbeen's and never will be's.
I will also predict that Notlob will do fookall and in moses we most certainly trust.
I must admit Coyle is way better than Keanochio, but only operating as a secret agent. Keanochio is hated at ewood for taking us down, whereas you thick feckers think Coyle is ace, still you are a Notlob supporter, speaks volumes.
Coyle in!!!
No one is clinging to conspiracy theories. Conspiracy theories create themselves by the continued actions of the owners.
No-one can understand why the Venkys are sticking with Steve Kean. No other football club in the world has stuck with such an unpopular manager, especially when it means alienating pretty much their entire fan base. The owners behaviour makes zero sense from any perspective - football, business, customer service, profit - none of it makes sense sticking with Kean.
Only conspiracy theories can explain the inexplicable. If the owners did normal sensible things then there would be no conspiracy theories, but they don't, they do the opposite. Hence conspiracy theories running amok.
Kean still been here is all the proof needed for a conspiracy theory. I'm not saying there is a conspiracy theory, but the proof is currently overwhelming that there is one. If the owners don't want conspiracy theories then they need to sack Kean, otherwise it's welcome to conspiracy city.
It pretended to go on holiday when Rovers went on pre season, so he could concentrate on bungling up the team.
I have also noticed that it's posts have a scottish accent, and would fit with Mr Kean's attitude.
And one of the biggest givaways is it distances itself from Venks without critisizing them, then challenges any one who argues to verify where it has supported Venks.
I'm 99% sure it's either Kean or as close to Kean's back passage as it can get.
any one who reads his posts will note that there are to many sexual references hidden within his moans to be of coincidence, he continually mentions beasts with either 4 or 2 legs or refers to private parts in this case "back passage" for this reason I will not reply to his posts and kindly requests he dosent quote on mine, I wondered if he was the guy arrested in a field in ossie,
we all know what happened to keith lard
Some of the people he invents are wayward and probably only known to Fickle in a pickle.
I think we've found the squirming liar that is Kean.
any one who reads his posts will note that there are to many sexual references hidden within his moans to be of coincidence, he continually mentions beasts with either 4 or 2 legs or refers to private parts in this case "back passage" for this reason I will not reply to his posts and kindly requests he dosent quote on mine, I wondered if he was the guy arrested in a field in ossie,
we all know what happened to keith lard
Harwoodstblue
says...
8:32pm Wed 8 Aug 12
t's your agenda ?
gleechy
says...
9:16pm Wed 8 Aug 12
fickle fan wrote:Kieth Lard, is he your uncle? what has that got to do with the price of cheese?
gleechy wrote:ha quote from keith lard, (gleechy)
fickle fan wrote:Call me ignorant, but I don't know your friend Kieth Lard, have you any more fairy stories for us?
gleechy wrote:ha quote from keith lard, (gleechy)
Jack Herer wrote:The very fact that this user has the name fickle fan was a clue to it's identity, If Kean was to be bothered to get into the fans, he would say they are fickle.
fickle fan wrote:That's because you never went away, you just changed to different usernames.
RUinsane wrote:I`m still here, laughing,all the moaners clinging to the conspiracy theories,
Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:I'm well aware of what you are trying to do in a sly way. As Fickle Fan was so hated on here what better way of trying to get everyone on my back. But if you look back, I existed before fickle fan was around and I'm still here now he's fooked off.
RUinsane wrote:RU Fickle fan?
in moses we trust wrote:Interesting perspective Notlobber, never beens? would that include 1 goal in 7 super striker Ngog, or 1 goal in 8 super striker Davies. I predicted last year to you that you would get relegated with us, Guess which one of us was right???
RUinsane wrote:Why, do you think the season has started. I'll tell you it's 18th of August. ease try and be better informed.
in moses we trust wrote:Have Bolton won a game yet??
Joke bid, as if Rhodes would want to join a club tht's the laughing stock of football. the only players Rovers are attracting are hasbeen's and never will be's.
I will also predict that Notlob will do fookall and in moses we most certainly trust.
I must admit Coyle is way better than Keanochio, but only operating as a secret agent. Keanochio is hated at ewood for taking us down, whereas you thick feckers think Coyle is ace, still you are a Notlob supporter, speaks volumes.
Coyle in!!!
No one is clinging to conspiracy theories. Conspiracy theories create themselves by the continued actions of the owners.
No-one can understand why the Venkys are sticking with Steve Kean. No other football club in the world has stuck with such an unpopular manager, especially when it means alienating pretty much their entire fan base. The owners behaviour makes zero sense from any perspective - football, business, customer service, profit - none of it makes sense sticking with Kean.
Only conspiracy theories can explain the inexplicable. If the owners did normal sensible things then there would be no conspiracy theories, but they don't, they do the opposite. Hence conspiracy theories running amok.
Kean still been here is all the proof needed for a conspiracy theory. I'm not saying there is a conspiracy theory, but the proof is currently overwhelming that there is one. If the owners don't want conspiracy theories then they need to sack Kean, otherwise it's welcome to conspiracy city.
It pretended to go on holiday when Rovers went on pre season, so he could concentrate on bungling up the team.
I have also noticed that it's posts have a scottish accent, and would fit with Mr Kean's attitude.
And one of the biggest givaways is it distances itself from Venks without critisizing them, then challenges any one who argues to verify where it has supported Venks.
I'm 99% sure it's either Kean or as close to Kean's back passage as it can get.
any one who reads his posts will note that there are to many sexual references hidden within his moans to be of coincidence, he continually mentions beasts with either 4 or 2 legs or refers to private parts in this case "back passage" for this reason I will not reply to his posts and kindly requests he dosent quote on mine, I wondered if he was the guy arrested in a field in ossie,
we all know what happened to keith lard
I really don't think you have as big an audience as you think Pickle, but your stories are on a par with Kean's.
And your childish references have backfired as you are the only one seeing all these links to your childhood dreams.
any one who reads his posts will note that there are to many sexual references hidden within his moans to be of coincidence, he continually mentions beasts with either 4 or 2 legs or refers to private parts in this case "back passage" for this reason I will not reply to his posts and kindly requests he dosent quote on mine, I wondered if he was the guy arrested in a field in ossie,
we all know what happened to keith lard
Beasts 4 legs 2 legs where are you taking this?
Your imagination is kean like.I don't know anything about your friend in the field in Ossie, and what did happen to your Uncle ?
fickle fan
says...
9:46pm Wed 8 Aug 12
gleechy wrote:ha quote from keith lard, (gleechy)
fickle fan wrote:Kieth Lard, is he your uncle? what has that got to do with the price of cheese?
gleechy wrote:ha quote from keith lard, (gleechy)
fickle fan wrote:Call me ignorant, but I don't know your friend Kieth Lard, have you any more fairy stories for us?
gleechy wrote:ha quote from keith lard, (gleechy)
Jack Herer wrote:The very fact that this user has the name fickle fan was a clue to it's identity, If Kean was to be bothered to get into the fans, he would say they are fickle.
fickle fan wrote:That's because you never went away, you just changed to different usernames.
RUinsane wrote:I`m still here, laughing,all the moaners clinging to the conspiracy theories,
Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:I'm well aware of what you are trying to do in a sly way. As Fickle Fan was so hated on here what better way of trying to get everyone on my back. But if you look back, I existed before fickle fan was around and I'm still here now he's fooked off.
RUinsane wrote:RU Fickle fan?
in moses we trust wrote:Interesting perspective Notlobber, never beens? would that include 1 goal in 7 super striker Ngog, or 1 goal in 8 super striker Davies. I predicted last year to you that you would get relegated with us, Guess which one of us was right???
RUinsane wrote:Why, do you think the season has started. I'll tell you it's 18th of August. ease try and be better informed.
in moses we trust wrote:Have Bolton won a game yet??
Joke bid, as if Rhodes would want to join a club tht's the laughing stock of football. the only players Rovers are attracting are hasbeen's and never will be's.
I will also predict that Notlob will do fookall and in moses we most certainly trust.
I must admit Coyle is way better than Keanochio, but only operating as a secret agent. Keanochio is hated at ewood for taking us down, whereas you thick feckers think Coyle is ace, still you are a Notlob supporter, speaks volumes.
Coyle in!!!
No one is clinging to conspiracy theories. Conspiracy theories create themselves by the continued actions of the owners.
No-one can understand why the Venkys are sticking with Steve Kean. No other football club in the world has stuck with such an unpopular manager, especially when it means alienating pretty much their entire fan base. The owners behaviour makes zero sense from any perspective - football, business, customer service, profit - none of it makes sense sticking with Kean.
Only conspiracy theories can explain the inexplicable. If the owners did normal sensible things then there would be no conspiracy theories, but they don't, they do the opposite. Hence conspiracy theories running amok.
Kean still been here is all the proof needed for a conspiracy theory. I'm not saying there is a conspiracy theory, but the proof is currently overwhelming that there is one. If the owners don't want conspiracy theories then they need to sack Kean, otherwise it's welcome to conspiracy city.
It pretended to go on holiday when Rovers went on pre season, so he could concentrate on bungling up the team.
I have also noticed that it's posts have a scottish accent, and would fit with Mr Kean's attitude.
And one of the biggest givaways is it distances itself from Venks without critisizing them, then challenges any one who argues to verify where it has supported Venks.
I'm 99% sure it's either Kean or as close to Kean's back passage as it can get.
any one who reads his posts will note that there are to many sexual references hidden within his moans to be of coincidence, he continually mentions beasts with either 4 or 2 legs or refers to private parts in this case "back passage" for this reason I will not reply to his posts and kindly requests he dosent quote on mine, I wondered if he was the guy arrested in a field in ossie,
we all know what happened to keith lard
I really don't think you have as big an audience as you think Pickle, but your stories are on a par with Kean's.
And your childish references have backfired as you are the only one seeing all these links to your childhood dreams.
any one who reads his posts will note that there are to many sexual references hidden within his moans to be of coincidence, he continually mentions beasts with either 4 or 2 legs or refers to private parts in this case "back passage" for this reason I will not reply to his posts and kindly requests he dosent quote on mine, I wondered if he was the guy arrested in a field in ossie,
we all know what happened to keith lard
Beasts 4 legs 2 legs where are you taking this?
Your imagination is kean like.I don't know anything about your friend in the field in Ossie, and what did happen to your Uncle ?
any one who reads his posts will note that there are to many sexual references hidden within his moans to be of coincidence, he continually mentions beasts with either 4 or 2 legs or refers to private parts in this case "back passage" for this reason I will not reply to his posts and kindly requests he dosent quote on mine, I wondered if he was the guy arrested in a field in ossie,
we all know what happened to keith lard
gleechy
says...
11:04pm Wed 8 Aug 12
fickle fan wrote:Fickle in a pickle with no where to hide. Change the story why don't you ?
gleechy wrote:ha quote from keith lard, (gleechy)
fickle fan wrote:Kieth Lard, is he your uncle? what has that got to do with the price of cheese?
gleechy wrote:ha quote from keith lard, (gleechy)
fickle fan wrote:Call me ignorant, but I don't know your friend Kieth Lard, have you any more fairy stories for us?
gleechy wrote:ha quote from keith lard, (gleechy)
Jack Herer wrote:The very fact that this user has the name fickle fan was a clue to it's identity, If Kean was to be bothered to get into the fans, he would say they are fickle.
fickle fan wrote:That's because you never went away, you just changed to different usernames.
RUinsane wrote:I`m still here, laughing,all the moaners clinging to the conspiracy theories,
Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:I'm well aware of what you are trying to do in a sly way. As Fickle Fan was so hated on here what better way of trying to get everyone on my back. But if you look back, I existed before fickle fan was around and I'm still here now he's fooked off.
RUinsane wrote:RU Fickle fan?
in moses we trust wrote:Interesting perspective Notlobber, never beens? would that include 1 goal in 7 super striker Ngog, or 1 goal in 8 super striker Davies. I predicted last year to you that you would get relegated with us, Guess which one of us was right???
RUinsane wrote:Why, do you think the season has started. I'll tell you it's 18th of August. ease try and be better informed.
in moses we trust wrote:Have Bolton won a game yet??
Joke bid, as if Rhodes would want to join a club tht's the laughing stock of football. the only players Rovers are attracting are hasbeen's and never will be's.
I will also predict that Notlob will do fookall and in moses we most certainly trust.
I must admit Coyle is way better than Keanochio, but only operating as a secret agent. Keanochio is hated at ewood for taking us down, whereas you thick feckers think Coyle is ace, still you are a Notlob supporter, speaks volumes.
Coyle in!!!
No one is clinging to conspiracy theories. Conspiracy theories create themselves by the continued actions of the owners.
No-one can understand why the Venkys are sticking with Steve Kean. No other football club in the world has stuck with such an unpopular manager, especially when it means alienating pretty much their entire fan base. The owners behaviour makes zero sense from any perspective - football, business, customer service, profit - none of it makes sense sticking with Kean.
Only conspiracy theories can explain the inexplicable. If the owners did normal sensible things then there would be no conspiracy theories, but they don't, they do the opposite. Hence conspiracy theories running amok.
Kean still been here is all the proof needed for a conspiracy theory. I'm not saying there is a conspiracy theory, but the proof is currently overwhelming that there is one. If the owners don't want conspiracy theories then they need to sack Kean, otherwise it's welcome to conspiracy city.
It pretended to go on holiday when Rovers went on pre season, so he could concentrate on bungling up the team.
I have also noticed that it's posts have a scottish accent, and would fit with Mr Kean's attitude.
And one of the biggest givaways is it distances itself from Venks without critisizing them, then challenges any one who argues to verify where it has supported Venks.
I'm 99% sure it's either Kean or as close to Kean's back passage as it can get.
any one who reads his posts will note that there are to many sexual references hidden within his moans to be of coincidence, he continually mentions beasts with either 4 or 2 legs or refers to private parts in this case "back passage" for this reason I will not reply to his posts and kindly requests he dosent quote on mine, I wondered if he was the guy arrested in a field in ossie,
we all know what happened to keith lard
I really don't think you have as big an audience as you think Pickle, but your stories are on a par with Kean's.
And your childish references have backfired as you are the only one seeing all these links to your childhood dreams.
any one who reads his posts will note that there are to many sexual references hidden within his moans to be of coincidence, he continually mentions beasts with either 4 or 2 legs or refers to private parts in this case "back passage" for this reason I will not reply to his posts and kindly requests he dosent quote on mine, I wondered if he was the guy arrested in a field in ossie,
we all know what happened to keith lard
Beasts 4 legs 2 legs where are you taking this?
Your imagination is kean like.I don't know anything about your friend in the field in Ossie, and what did happen to your Uncle ?
any one who reads his posts will note that there are to many sexual references hidden within his moans to be of coincidence, he continually mentions beasts with either 4 or 2 legs or refers to private parts in this case "back passage" for this reason I will not reply to his posts and kindly requests he dosent quote on mine, I wondered if he was the guy arrested in a field in ossie,
we all know what happened to keith lard
where do you get your charactors from fickle kean's childhood days in glasgow?
Did you ever find out about your Uncle Lard or your friend in the Ossie field?
Why do you bring them into a football forum, is it a keanism?
fickle fan
says...
11:23pm Wed 8 Aug 12
gleechy wrote:ha quote from keith lard, (gleechy)
fickle fan wrote:Fickle in a pickle with no where to hide. Change the story why don't you ?
gleechy wrote:ha quote from keith lard, (gleechy)
fickle fan wrote:Kieth Lard, is he your uncle? what has that got to do with the price of cheese?
gleechy wrote:ha quote from keith lard, (gleechy)
fickle fan wrote:Call me ignorant, but I don't know your friend Kieth Lard, have you any more fairy stories for us?
gleechy wrote:ha quote from keith lard, (gleechy)
Jack Herer wrote:The very fact that this user has the name fickle fan was a clue to it's identity, If Kean was to be bothered to get into the fans, he would say they are fickle.
fickle fan wrote:That's because you never went away, you just changed to different usernames.
RUinsane wrote:I`m still here, laughing,all the moaners clinging to the conspiracy theories,
Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:I'm well aware of what you are trying to do in a sly way. As Fickle Fan was so hated on here what better way of trying to get everyone on my back. But if you look back, I existed before fickle fan was around and I'm still here now he's fooked off.
RUinsane wrote:RU Fickle fan?
in moses we trust wrote:Interesting perspective Notlobber, never beens? would that include 1 goal in 7 super striker Ngog, or 1 goal in 8 super striker Davies. I predicted last year to you that you would get relegated with us, Guess which one of us was right???
RUinsane wrote:Why, do you think the season has started. I'll tell you it's 18th of August. ease try and be better informed.
in moses we trust wrote:Have Bolton won a game yet??
Joke bid, as if Rhodes would want to join a club tht's the laughing stock of football. the only players Rovers are attracting are hasbeen's and never will be's.
I will also predict that Notlob will do fookall and in moses we most certainly trust.
I must admit Coyle is way better than Keanochio, but only operating as a secret agent. Keanochio is hated at ewood for taking us down, whereas you thick feckers think Coyle is ace, still you are a Notlob supporter, speaks volumes.
Coyle in!!!
No one is clinging to conspiracy theories. Conspiracy theories create themselves by the continued actions of the owners.
No-one can understand why the Venkys are sticking with Steve Kean. No other football club in the world has stuck with such an unpopular manager, especially when it means alienating pretty much their entire fan base. The owners behaviour makes zero sense from any perspective - football, business, customer service, profit - none of it makes sense sticking with Kean.
Only conspiracy theories can explain the inexplicable. If the owners did normal sensible things then there would be no conspiracy theories, but they don't, they do the opposite. Hence conspiracy theories running amok.
Kean still been here is all the proof needed for a conspiracy theory. I'm not saying there is a conspiracy theory, but the proof is currently overwhelming that there is one. If the owners don't want conspiracy theories then they need to sack Kean, otherwise it's welcome to conspiracy city.
It pretended to go on holiday when Rovers went on pre season, so he could concentrate on bungling up the team.
I have also noticed that it's posts have a scottish accent, and would fit with Mr Kean's attitude.
And one of the biggest givaways is it distances itself from Venks without critisizing them, then challenges any one who argues to verify where it has supported Venks.
I'm 99% sure it's either Kean or as close to Kean's back passage as it can get.
any one who reads his posts will note that there are to many sexual references hidden within his moans to be of coincidence, he continually mentions beasts with either 4 or 2 legs or refers to private parts in this case "back passage" for this reason I will not reply to his posts and kindly requests he dosent quote on mine, I wondered if he was the guy arrested in a field in ossie,
we all know what happened to keith lard
I really don't think you have as big an audience as you think Pickle, but your stories are on a par with Kean's.
And your childish references have backfired as you are the only one seeing all these links to your childhood dreams.
any one who reads his posts will note that there are to many sexual references hidden within his moans to be of coincidence, he continually mentions beasts with either 4 or 2 legs or refers to private parts in this case "back passage" for this reason I will not reply to his posts and kindly requests he dosent quote on mine, I wondered if he was the guy arrested in a field in ossie,
we all know what happened to keith lard
Beasts 4 legs 2 legs where are you taking this?
Your imagination is kean like.I don't know anything about your friend in the field in Ossie, and what did happen to your Uncle ?
any one who reads his posts will note that there are to many sexual references hidden within his moans to be of coincidence, he continually mentions beasts with either 4 or 2 legs or refers to private parts in this case "back passage" for this reason I will not reply to his posts and kindly requests he dosent quote on mine, I wondered if he was the guy arrested in a field in ossie,
we all know what happened to keith lard
where do you get your charactors from fickle kean's childhood days in glasgow?
Did you ever find out about your Uncle Lard or your friend in the Ossie field?
Why do you bring them into a football forum, is it a keanism?
any one who reads his posts will note that there are to many sexual references hidden within his moans to be of coincidence, he continually mentions beasts with either 4 or 2 legs or refers to private parts in this case "back passage" for this reason I will not reply to his posts and kindly requests he dosent quote on mine, I wondered if he was the guy arrested in a field in ossie,
we all know what happened to keith lard
gleechy
says...
12:04am Thu 9 Aug 12
fickle fan wrote:Mr Kean has been burning the candle at both ends.
gleechy wrote:ha quote from keith lard, (gleechy)
fickle fan wrote:Fickle in a pickle with no where to hide. Change the story why don't you ?
gleechy wrote:ha quote from keith lard, (gleechy)
fickle fan wrote:Kieth Lard, is he your uncle? what has that got to do with the price of cheese?
gleechy wrote:ha quote from keith lard, (gleechy)
fickle fan wrote:Call me ignorant, but I don't know your friend Kieth Lard, have you any more fairy stories for us?
gleechy wrote:ha quote from keith lard, (gleechy)
Jack Herer wrote:The very fact that this user has the name fickle fan was a clue to it's identity, If Kean was to be bothered to get into the fans, he would say they are fickle.
fickle fan wrote:That's because you never went away, you just changed to different usernames.
RUinsane wrote:I`m still here, laughing,all the moaners clinging to the conspiracy theories,
Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:I'm well aware of what you are trying to do in a sly way. As Fickle Fan was so hated on here what better way of trying to get everyone on my back. But if you look back, I existed before fickle fan was around and I'm still here now he's fooked off.
RUinsane wrote:RU Fickle fan?
in moses we trust wrote:Interesting perspective Notlobber, never beens? would that include 1 goal in 7 super striker Ngog, or 1 goal in 8 super striker Davies. I predicted last year to you that you would get relegated with us, Guess which one of us was right???
RUinsane wrote:Why, do you think the season has started. I'll tell you it's 18th of August. ease try and be better informed.
in moses we trust wrote:Have Bolton won a game yet??
Joke bid, as if Rhodes would want to join a club tht's the laughing stock of football. the only players Rovers are attracting are hasbeen's and never will be's.
I will also predict that Notlob will do fookall and in moses we most certainly trust.
I must admit Coyle is way better than Keanochio, but only operating as a secret agent. Keanochio is hated at ewood for taking us down, whereas you thick feckers think Coyle is ace, still you are a Notlob supporter, speaks volumes.
Coyle in!!!
No one is clinging to conspiracy theories. Conspiracy theories create themselves by the continued actions of the owners.
No-one can understand why the Venkys are sticking with Steve Kean. No other football club in the world has stuck with such an unpopular manager, especially when it means alienating pretty much their entire fan base. The owners behaviour makes zero sense from any perspective - football, business, customer service, profit - none of it makes sense sticking with Kean.
Only conspiracy theories can explain the inexplicable. If the owners did normal sensible things then there would be no conspiracy theories, but they don't, they do the opposite. Hence conspiracy theories running amok.
Kean still been here is all the proof needed for a conspiracy theory. I'm not saying there is a conspiracy theory, but the proof is currently overwhelming that there is one. If the owners don't want conspiracy theories then they need to sack Kean, otherwise it's welcome to conspiracy city.
It pretended to go on holiday when Rovers went on pre season, so he could concentrate on bungling up the team.
I have also noticed that it's posts have a scottish accent, and would fit with Mr Kean's attitude.
And one of the biggest givaways is it distances itself from Venks without critisizing them, then challenges any one who argues to verify where it has supported Venks.
I'm 99% sure it's either Kean or as close to Kean's back passage as it can get.
any one who reads his posts will note that there are to many sexual references hidden within his moans to be of coincidence, he continually mentions beasts with either 4 or 2 legs or refers to private parts in this case "back passage" for this reason I will not reply to his posts and kindly requests he dosent quote on mine, I wondered if he was the guy arrested in a field in ossie,
we all know what happened to keith lard
I really don't think you have as big an audience as you think Pickle, but your stories are on a par with Kean's.
And your childish references have backfired as you are the only one seeing all these links to your childhood dreams.
any one who reads his posts will note that there are to many sexual references hidden within his moans to be of coincidence, he continually mentions beasts with either 4 or 2 legs or refers to private parts in this case "back passage" for this reason I will not reply to his posts and kindly requests he dosent quote on mine, I wondered if he was the guy arrested in a field in ossie,
we all know what happened to keith lard
Beasts 4 legs 2 legs where are you taking this?
Your imagination is kean like.I don't know anything about your friend in the field in Ossie, and what did happen to your Uncle ?
any one who reads his posts will note that there are to many sexual references hidden within his moans to be of coincidence, he continually mentions beasts with either 4 or 2 legs or refers to private parts in this case "back passage" for this reason I will not reply to his posts and kindly requests he dosent quote on mine, I wondered if he was the guy arrested in a field in ossie,
we all know what happened to keith lard
where do you get your charactors from fickle kean's childhood days in glasgow?
Did you ever find out about your Uncle Lard or your friend in the Ossie field?
Why do you bring them into a football forum, is it a keanism?
any one who reads his posts will note that there are to many sexual references hidden within his moans to be of coincidence, he continually mentions beasts with either 4 or 2 legs or refers to private parts in this case "back passage" for this reason I will not reply to his posts and kindly requests he dosent quote on mine, I wondered if he was the guy arrested in a field in ossie,
we all know what happened to keith lard
Fickle in a pickle with no where to hide. Change the story why don't you ?
where do you get your charactors from fickle kean's childhood days?
Did you ever find out about your Uncle Lard or your friend in the Ossie field?
Why do you bring them into a football forum, is it a keanism?
fickle fan
says...
7:26am Thu 9 Aug 12
gleechy wrote:any one who reads his posts will note that there are to many sexual references hidden within his moans to be of coincidence, he continually mentions beasts with either 4 or 2 legs or refers to private parts in this case "back passage" for this reason I will not reply to his posts and kindly requests he dosent quote on mine, I wondered if he was the guy arrested in a field in ossie,
fickle fan wrote:Mr Kean has been burning the candle at both ends.
gleechy wrote:ha quote from keith lard, (gleechy)
fickle fan wrote:Fickle in a pickle with no where to hide. Change the story why don't you ?
gleechy wrote:ha quote from keith lard, (gleechy)
fickle fan wrote:Kieth Lard, is he your uncle? what has that got to do with the price of cheese?
gleechy wrote:ha quote from keith lard, (gleechy)
fickle fan wrote:Call me ignorant, but I don't know your friend Kieth Lard, have you any more fairy stories for us?
gleechy wrote:ha quote from keith lard, (gleechy)
Jack Herer wrote:The very fact that this user has the name fickle fan was a clue to it's identity, If Kean was to be bothered to get into the fans, he would say they are fickle.
fickle fan wrote:That's because you never went away, you just changed to different usernames.
RUinsane wrote:I`m still here, laughing,all the moaners clinging to the conspiracy theories,
Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:I'm well aware of what you are trying to do in a sly way. As Fickle Fan was so hated on here what better way of trying to get everyone on my back. But if you look back, I existed before fickle fan was around and I'm still here now he's fooked off.
RUinsane wrote:RU Fickle fan?
in moses we trust wrote:Interesting perspective Notlobber, never beens? would that include 1 goal in 7 super striker Ngog, or 1 goal in 8 super striker Davies. I predicted last year to you that you would get relegated with us, Guess which one of us was right???
RUinsane wrote:Why, do you think the season has started. I'll tell you it's 18th of August. ease try and be better informed.
in moses we trust wrote:Have Bolton won a game yet??
Joke bid, as if Rhodes would want to join a club tht's the laughing stock of football. the only players Rovers are attracting are hasbeen's and never will be's.
I will also predict that Notlob will do fookall and in moses we most certainly trust.
I must admit Coyle is way better than Keanochio, but only operating as a secret agent. Keanochio is hated at ewood for taking us down, whereas you thick feckers think Coyle is ace, still you are a Notlob supporter, speaks volumes.
Coyle in!!!
No one is clinging to conspiracy theories. Conspiracy theories create themselves by the continued actions of the owners.
No-one can understand why the Venkys are sticking with Steve Kean. No other football club in the world has stuck with such an unpopular manager, especially when it means alienating pretty much their entire fan base. The owners behaviour makes zero sense from any perspective - football, business, customer service, profit - none of it makes sense sticking with Kean.
Only conspiracy theories can explain the inexplicable. If the owners did normal sensible things then there would be no conspiracy theories, but they don't, they do the opposite. Hence conspiracy theories running amok.
Kean still been here is all the proof needed for a conspiracy theory. I'm not saying there is a conspiracy theory, but the proof is currently overwhelming that there is one. If the owners don't want conspiracy theories then they need to sack Kean, otherwise it's welcome to conspiracy city.
It pretended to go on holiday when Rovers went on pre season, so he could concentrate on bungling up the team.
I have also noticed that it's posts have a scottish accent, and would fit with Mr Kean's attitude.
And one of the biggest givaways is it distances itself from Venks without critisizing them, then challenges any one who argues to verify where it has supported Venks.
I'm 99% sure it's either Kean or as close to Kean's back passage as it can get.
any one who reads his posts will note that there are to many sexual references hidden within his moans to be of coincidence, he continually mentions beasts with either 4 or 2 legs or refers to private parts in this case "back passage" for this reason I will not reply to his posts and kindly requests he dosent quote on mine, I wondered if he was the guy arrested in a field in ossie,
we all know what happened to keith lard
I really don't think you have as big an audience as you think Pickle, but your stories are on a par with Kean's.
And your childish references have backfired as you are the only one seeing all these links to your childhood dreams.
any one who reads his posts will note that there are to many sexual references hidden within his moans to be of coincidence, he continually mentions beasts with either 4 or 2 legs or refers to private parts in this case "back passage" for this reason I will not reply to his posts and kindly requests he dosent quote on mine, I wondered if he was the guy arrested in a field in ossie,
we all know what happened to keith lard
Beasts 4 legs 2 legs where are you taking this?
Your imagination is kean like.I don't know anything about your friend in the field in Ossie, and what did happen to your Uncle ?
any one who reads his posts will note that there are to many sexual references hidden within his moans to be of coincidence, he continually mentions beasts with either 4 or 2 legs or refers to private parts in this case "back passage" for this reason I will not reply to his posts and kindly requests he dosent quote on mine, I wondered if he was the guy arrested in a field in ossie,
we all know what happened to keith lard
where do you get your charactors from fickle kean's childhood days in glasgow?
Did you ever find out about your Uncle Lard or your friend in the Ossie field?
Why do you bring them into a football forum, is it a keanism?
any one who reads his posts will note that there are to many sexual references hidden within his moans to be of coincidence, he continually mentions beasts with either 4 or 2 legs or refers to private parts in this case "back passage" for this reason I will not reply to his posts and kindly requests he dosent quote on mine, I wondered if he was the guy arrested in a field in ossie,
we all know what happened to keith lard
Fickle in a pickle with no where to hide. Change the story why don't you ?
where do you get your charactors from fickle kean's childhood days?
Did you ever find out about your Uncle Lard or your friend in the Ossie field?
Why do you bring them into a football forum, is it a keanism?
we all know what happened to keith lard
gleechy
says...
11:43am Thu 9 Aug 12
Are you on a mission to send everyone to sleep? Nobody can follow your jumble of strange characters and tedious insults, it must be time for you to get back in the jacket.
gleechy
says...
8:18pm Thu 9 Aug 12
fickle fan wrote:Don't forget to put the light out Mr Fick.
gleechy wrote:any one who reads his posts will note that there are to many sexual references hidden within his moans to be of coincidence, he continually mentions beasts with either 4 or 2 legs or refers to private parts in this case "back passage" for this reason I will not reply to his posts and kindly requests he dosent quote on mine, I wondered if he was the guy arrested in a field in ossie,
fickle fan wrote:Mr Kean has been burning the candle at both ends.
gleechy wrote:ha quote from keith lard, (gleechy)
fickle fan wrote:Fickle in a pickle with no where to hide. Change the story why don't you ?
gleechy wrote:ha quote from keith lard, (gleechy)
fickle fan wrote:Kieth Lard, is he your uncle? what has that got to do with the price of cheese?
gleechy wrote:ha quote from keith lard, (gleechy)
fickle fan wrote:Call me ignorant, but I don't know your friend Kieth Lard, have you any more fairy stories for us?
gleechy wrote:ha quote from keith lard, (gleechy)
Jack Herer wrote:The very fact that this user has the name fickle fan was a clue to it's identity, If Kean was to be bothered to get into the fans, he would say they are fickle.
fickle fan wrote:That's because you never went away, you just changed to different usernames.
RUinsane wrote:I`m still here, laughing,all the moaners clinging to the conspiracy theories,
Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:I'm well aware of what you are trying to do in a sly way. As Fickle Fan was so hated on here what better way of trying to get everyone on my back. But if you look back, I existed before fickle fan was around and I'm still here now he's fooked off.
RUinsane wrote:RU Fickle fan?
in moses we trust wrote:Interesting perspective Notlobber, never beens? would that include 1 goal in 7 super striker Ngog, or 1 goal in 8 super striker Davies. I predicted last year to you that you would get relegated with us, Guess which one of us was right???
RUinsane wrote:Why, do you think the season has started. I'll tell you it's 18th of August. ease try and be better informed.
in moses we trust wrote:Have Bolton won a game yet??
Joke bid, as if Rhodes would want to join a club tht's the laughing stock of football. the only players Rovers are attracting are hasbeen's and never will be's.
I will also predict that Notlob will do fookall and in moses we most certainly trust.
I must admit Coyle is way better than Keanochio, but only operating as a secret agent. Keanochio is hated at ewood for taking us down, whereas you thick feckers think Coyle is ace, still you are a Notlob supporter, speaks volumes.
Coyle in!!!
No one is clinging to conspiracy theories. Conspiracy theories create themselves by the continued actions of the owners.
No-one can understand why the Venkys are sticking with Steve Kean. No other football club in the world has stuck with such an unpopular manager, especially when it means alienating pretty much their entire fan base. The owners behaviour makes zero sense from any perspective - football, business, customer service, profit - none of it makes sense sticking with Kean.
Only conspiracy theories can explain the inexplicable. If the owners did normal sensible things then there would be no conspiracy theories, but they don't, they do the opposite. Hence conspiracy theories running amok.
Kean still been here is all the proof needed for a conspiracy theory. I'm not saying there is a conspiracy theory, but the proof is currently overwhelming that there is one. If the owners don't want conspiracy theories then they need to sack Kean, otherwise it's welcome to conspiracy city.
It pretended to go on holiday when Rovers went on pre season, so he could concentrate on bungling up the team.
I have also noticed that it's posts have a scottish accent, and would fit with Mr Kean's attitude.
And one of the biggest givaways is it distances itself from Venks without critisizing them, then challenges any one who argues to verify where it has supported Venks.
I'm 99% sure it's either Kean or as close to Kean's back passage as it can get.
any one who reads his posts will note that there are to many sexual references hidden within his moans to be of coincidence, he continually mentions beasts with either 4 or 2 legs or refers to private parts in this case "back passage" for this reason I will not reply to his posts and kindly requests he dosent quote on mine, I wondered if he was the guy arrested in a field in ossie,
we all know what happened to keith lard
I really don't think you have as big an audience as you think Pickle, but your stories are on a par with Kean's.
And your childish references have backfired as you are the only one seeing all these links to your childhood dreams.
any one who reads his posts will note that there are to many sexual references hidden within his moans to be of coincidence, he continually mentions beasts with either 4 or 2 legs or refers to private parts in this case "back passage" for this reason I will not reply to his posts and kindly requests he dosent quote on mine, I wondered if he was the guy arrested in a field in ossie,
we all know what happened to keith lard
Beasts 4 legs 2 legs where are you taking this?
Your imagination is kean like.I don't know anything about your friend in the field in Ossie, and what did happen to your Uncle ?
any one who reads his posts will note that there are to many sexual references hidden within his moans to be of coincidence, he continually mentions beasts with either 4 or 2 legs or refers to private parts in this case "back passage" for this reason I will not reply to his posts and kindly requests he dosent quote on mine, I wondered if he was the guy arrested in a field in ossie,
we all know what happened to keith lard
where do you get your charactors from fickle kean's childhood days in glasgow?
Did you ever find out about your Uncle Lard or your friend in the Ossie field?
Why do you bring them into a football forum, is it a keanism?
any one who reads his posts will note that there are to many sexual references hidden within his moans to be of coincidence, he continually mentions beasts with either 4 or 2 legs or refers to private parts in this case "back passage" for this reason I will not reply to his posts and kindly requests he dosent quote on mine, I wondered if he was the guy arrested in a field in ossie,
we all know what happened to keith lard
Fickle in a pickle with no where to hide. Change the story why don't you ?
where do you get your charactors from fickle kean's childhood days?
Did you ever find out about your Uncle Lard or your friend in the Ossie field?
Why do you bring them into a football forum, is it a keanism?
we all know what happened to keith lard
givet82 says...
10:14am Tue 7 Aug 12