Givet will seek Rovers talks (From Lancashire Telegraph)

French Rover wrote:
Givet would be invaluable to Rovers in the championship...his experience and determination to win are key factors as to why Rovers should do all they can to reach a compromise with him on salary. Let Givet go and we would have to replace him and that wouldn't be easy as there don't seem to be that many good defenders (who can play CH or RB) available.

Give Givet his Euros...

French Rover wrote:
Givet would be invaluable to Rovers in the championship...his experience and determination to win are key factors as to why Rovers should do all they can to reach a compromise with him on salary. Let Givet go and we would have to replace him and that wouldn't be easy as there don't seem to be that many good defenders (who can play CH or RB) available.

Give Givet his Euros...

bring back the good old days wrote:
This is a hard call because Gael is one player I have a lot of admiration and respect for. Having said that I have made it known I do not like 'player power'. On the other hand Gael may feel that the demise of BRFC is down ultimately to one man (SK), has he had a pay cut??? Yes, he has signed a contract; but when he did SK was possibly not the manager then, and then according to Venkys their 'charter' was 'Top 10 Prem, no problem. Keans declaration was: relegation, no chance. I would say he has a reasonable case for complaint. As does the support. Given the consequence's of the club caving in to his demand's, it could on the other hand be seen as a sign of intent by the support i.e. we (Venkys) are willing to pull out all the stops to come good on our promises.

blueblooded wrote:
Relax, the wages will be sorted, 34k and 45k a week for the new lads, I doubt they'll be wanting to risk losing the likes of Givet for a for a few pennies.

One thing I will say is that Rovers need to play hard ball to get the best money for want away players like Olsson and Formica, it seems everyone is looking into bargain basement purchases for top drawer players - Venkys need to stay firm and make it clear that if clubs want our good players - they better have the money to stump up for them as we're not about to just give them away either.

blueblooded wrote:
Relax, the wages will be sorted, 34k and 45k a week for the new lads, I doubt they'll be wanting to risk losing the likes of Givet for a for a few pennies.

One thing I will say is that Rovers need to play hard ball to get the best money for want away players like Olsson and Formica, it seems everyone is looking into bargain basement purchases for top drawer players - Venkys need to stay firm and make it clear that if clubs want our good players - they better have the money to stump up for them as we're not about to just give them away either.

blueblooded wrote:
Relax, the wages will be sorted, 34k and 45k a week for the new lads, I doubt they'll be wanting to risk losing the likes of Givet for a for a few pennies.

One thing I will say is that Rovers need to play hard ball to get the best money for want away players like Olsson and Formica, it seems everyone is looking into bargain basement purchases for top drawer players - Venkys need to stay firm and make it clear that if clubs want our good players - they better have the money to stump up for them as we're not about to just give them away either.

maltese blue n white wrote:
I am certain that if someone offered me half wages for a more difficult job than last year, ( championship is not easy) and asked me to work under someone that was totally incompetent of getting the job done, I would be off. And that will be whats gonna happen. As for Colin Hendry.. who will be left for him to coach? Same sh*t different day...

100%ROVERS wrote:
SHAME ON YOU COLIN HENDRY !!! CHEAP SCUMBAG !!! I supported you at Wembley in the FMC .. I chanted Colin Colin show us your arse at Ewood I backed you when the crowd all chanted "You can stick your f***** City up your arse" at Ewood befor your mov to Man City... I was in the BB end enclosure when you knocked off that female coppers hat !!!! Ive always spoken to you in the street / at Ewood / in the pub ... BUT TAKING THE VENKY's MONEY IS THE LOWEST OF THE LOW YOU CHEAP SCUMBAG .. YOU HAVE BETRAYED THIS CLUB & ITS LOYAL FANS - SHAME ON YOU COLIN !!!!

happycyclist wrote:
Seems a bit unfair holding players to a 50% pay cut if they get relegated, but not giving them the chance to play and try to stay up.

Harwoodstblue wrote:

French Rover wrote:
Givet would be invaluable to Rovers in the championship...his experience and determination to win are key factors as to why Rovers should do all they can to reach a compromise with him on salary. Let Givet go and we would have to replace him and that wouldn't be easy as there don't seem to be that many good defenders (who can play CH or RB) available.

Give Givet his Euros...

They won't pay him, the tight B*sturds.

happycyclist wrote:
Seems a bit unfair holding players to a 50% pay cut if they get relegated, but not giving them the chance to play and try to stay up.

happycyclist wrote:
Seems a bit unfair holding players to a 50% pay cut if they get relegated, but not giving them the chance to play and try to stay up.

Oakdale blue wrote:

100%ROVERS wrote: SHAME ON YOU COLIN HENDRY !!! CHEAP SCUMBAG !!! I supported you at Wembley in the FMC .. I chanted Colin Colin show us your arse at Ewood I backed you when the crowd all chanted "You can stick your f***** City up your arse" at Ewood befor your mov to Man City... I was in the BB end enclosure when you knocked off that female coppers hat !!!! Ive always spoken to you in the street / at Ewood / in the pub ... BUT TAKING THE VENKY's MONEY IS THE LOWEST OF THE LOW YOU CHEAP SCUMBAG .. YOU HAVE BETRAYED THIS CLUB & ITS LOYAL FANS - SHAME ON YOU COLIN !!!!

What planet are you from? After last years disasterous attempts at defending we are desperate for some quality defensive coaching and none better than someone who still bleeds blue and white and has a wealth of experience. Colin Hendry would be a most welcome addition to the coaching staff. The anti-Venky cry is old hat now, they are here, learning quickly from their mistakes and will still be here for some time to come, so instead of wasting your time knocking the club and what it is now trying to put right, use your energy in getting behind the club and aim for a quick return to the big time.

ASHY38 wrote:
Keeping hold of players is going to be tough , but necessary, personally what would make more sense is to offer these players a bonus incentive for getting is up, so take the 50% cut now and on promotion you get 25% year 1 and year 2 as a lump sum. Performance has to be linked to pay and although I think Kean did a bad job last year some of our players did not exactly cover themselves in glory either, tactics are on thing not being able to put 3 passes togethor without losing the ball is another.

lowelife wrote:

ASHY38 wrote:
Keeping hold of players is going to be tough , but necessary, personally what would make more sense is to offer these players a bonus incentive for getting is up, so take the 50% cut now and on promotion you get 25% year 1 and year 2 as a lump sum. Performance has to be linked to pay and although I think Kean did a bad job last year some of our players did not exactly cover themselves in glory either, tactics are on thing not being able to put 3 passes togethor without losing the ball is another.

I quite agree that remuneration should be linked to performance and, on a general level, we don't provide enough incentive in this country.
Looking at BRFC in particular, in this respect, does anyone know the details of Kean's remuneration package and how much of a reduction he has taken due to relegation? After all, it is entirely due his incompetence that we find ourselves in the Championship. It seems that players contract details are fairly common knowledge but not the manager's. It would be appalling if Kean has retained full salary.
We should be told!

blueblooded wrote:
Relax, the wages will be sorted, 34k and 45k a week for the new lads, I doubt they'll be wanting to risk losing the likes of Givet for a for a few pennies.

One thing I will say is that Rovers need to play hard ball to get the best money for want away players like Olsson and Formica, it seems everyone is looking into bargain basement purchases for top drawer players - Venkys need to stay firm and make it clear that if clubs want our good players - they better have the money to stump up for them as we're not about to just give them away either.

StLedge wrote:

maltese blue n white wrote:
I am certain that if someone offered me half wages for a more difficult job than last year, ( championship is not easy) and asked me to work under someone that was totally incompetent of getting the job done, I would be off. And that will be whats gonna happen. As for Colin Hendry.. who will be left for him to coach? Same sh*t different day...

The thing is though Maltese; he isn't being offered half wages, they are sticking to a contact that he signed knowing that if we were relegated his wages would drop by 50%.
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On the other hand (as mentioned above) he has fallen out with Kean and the next thing we know Givet is 'throwing his toys out of the pram' so it looks bad on him for leaving and not on Kean for getting him out!

Oakdale blue wrote:

100%ROVERS wrote:
SHAME ON YOU COLIN HENDRY !!! CHEAP SCUMBAG !!! I supported you at Wembley in the FMC .. I chanted Colin Colin show us your arse at Ewood I backed you when the crowd all chanted "You can stick your f***** City up your arse" at Ewood befor your mov to Man City... I was in the BB end enclosure when you knocked off that female coppers hat !!!! Ive always spoken to you in the street / at Ewood / in the pub ... BUT TAKING THE VENKY's MONEY IS THE LOWEST OF THE LOW YOU CHEAP SCUMBAG .. YOU HAVE BETRAYED THIS CLUB & ITS LOYAL FANS - SHAME ON YOU COLIN !!!!

What planet are you from?
After last years disasterous attempts at defending we are desperate for some quality defensive coaching and none better than someone who still bleeds blue and white and has a wealth of experience.

Colin Hendry would be a most welcome addition to the coaching staff.

The anti-Venky cry is old hat now, they are here, learning quickly from their mistakes and will still be here for some time to come, so instead of wasting your time knocking the club and what it is now trying to put right, use your energy in getting behind the club and aim for a quick return to the big time.

noddymcleod wrote:
A contract is a contract - unless you're a football player.
Sad but entirely understandable if Givet goes, just the kind of all-action never-say-die spirit we need to stay in the Championship.

RTID RKID wrote:
Givet needs to honour his contracted paycut, but get it back retrospectively as a promotion bonus if he helps us go back up at first attempt.

Hendry is a colossus capture. His presence will inspire the youth and his desire will instill a winning mentality. Look forward to seeing him back at Ewood. Future gaffer?

unclejacklegend wrote:
Gael Givet is the best defender we've got.

He should be treated as a new signing with regards to his contract.

Sure other team members would be pi**ed off but more important players typically do get better pay. It's no coincidence that Wayne Rooney earns more than johnny Evans.

RTID RKID wrote:
Givet needs to honour his contracted paycut, but get it back retrospectively as a promotion bonus if he helps us go back up at first attempt.

Hendry is a colossus capture. His presence will inspire the youth and his desire will instill a winning mentality. Look forward to seeing him back at Ewood. Future gaffer?

Harwoodstblue wrote:

unclejacklegend wrote:
Gael Givet is the best defender we've got.

He should be treated as a new signing with regards to his contract.

Sure other team members would be pi**ed off but more important players typically do get better pay. It's no coincidence that Wayne Rooney earns more than johnny Evans.

Very logical post, but do Venkeys think logically ? I think not.

fitz808 wrote:
if only some people weren't taking their bat and ball home and not buying season tickets. we might then have a bit more in the bank to sort out these contract disputes... sorry, couldn't resist. i am well aware of the situation being much more complicated than that so hold your horses on the tirade of abuse!

RTID RKID wrote:
Givet needs to honour his contracted paycut, but get it back retrospectively as a promotion bonus if he helps us go back up at first attempt. Hendry is a colossus capture. His presence will inspire the youth and his desire will instill a winning mentality. Look forward to seeing him back at Ewood. Future gaffer?

fitz808 wrote:
i think most of us would like to see givet remain. for as long as he wants to play for the club.
i don't really buy this 'fall out with kean' assertion. there was a period when he was not picked, sure, but every player goes through that. given the statements he has made about wanting to stay, i would imagine he's quite happy with everything apart from the potential pay cut.
from the club's point of view, you can see the risk of negotiating with givet then leading to a whole load of new negotiations. But maybe they need to accept it's partly a consequence of the lack of attention they paid last year which contributed to our relegation, and they should therefore take it on the chin.
looking at the squad though, it's hard to think the investment in a player with proven ability and commitment would not be a worthwhile investment at this point.

fitz808 wrote:
if only some people weren't taking their bat and ball home and not buying season tickets. we might then have a bit more in the bank to sort out these contract disputes...
sorry, couldn't resist. i am well aware of the situation being much more complicated than that so hold your horses on the tirade of abuse!

rankoutsider wrote:
Can only hope that Givet stays on, bar far and away the best centre half at the club.

On a side note its going to be a massive year for young Adam Henley - could end up being 1st choice left back looking at the squad list and bearing outgoing transfers . . . . good luck kidda.

RTID RKID wrote:
Givet needs to honour his contracted paycut, but get it back retrospectively as a promotion bonus if he helps us go back up at first attempt.

Hendry is a colossus capture. His presence will inspire the youth and his desire will instill a winning mentality. Look forward to seeing him back at Ewood. Future gaffer?

IrishRover3 wrote:

rankoutsider wrote:
Can only hope that Givet stays on, bar far and away the best centre half at the club.

On a side note its going to be a massive year for young Adam Henley - could end up being 1st choice left back looking at the squad list and bearing outgoing transfers . . . . good luck kidda.

Take it from me, the norm is the opposite to common sense, and there ain't to much common sense to be found in the board room! If the owners can get rid of Givet, they have the perfect way of doing it, just by not paying him what he is worth. If I was givet and they cut my pay and expected me to perform, i'd just let the ipswich strikers past me and keep on doing so with the rest of the teams till i was not allowed to play and just warm the bench till Christmas, surely by that time they would be desperate to off load....

IrishRover3 wrote:

Harwoodstblue wrote:

French Rover wrote:
Givet would be invaluable to Rovers in the championship...his experience and determination to win are key factors as to why Rovers should do all they can to reach a compromise with him on salary. Let Givet go and we would have to replace him and that wouldn't be easy as there don't seem to be that many good defenders (who can play CH or RB) available.

Give Givet his Euros...

They won't pay him, the tight B*sturds.

It seems that this articial states that they will not back down on not cutting Givet's pay because it will cause the rest of the players to do the same, well the flip of this coin is that if they don't back down there will be a mass exodus, which would mean having to pay out more for replacements, this is false economy and stinks of agent involvement. It seems from my perspective that all the money is going on an inflated management structure when the business end suffers just so the owners can get their cut, the onlt solution is to not bring henry on board, and if they have to, some else must go, slash the management positions pay by half or get rid i.e. Kean should only be allowed to claim job seekers and work less than 16 hours a week to allow him to do so, cos theres better managers on the dole.....

formerover wrote:

RTID RKID wrote: Givet needs to honour his contracted paycut, but get it back retrospectively as a promotion bonus if he helps us go back up at first attempt. Hendry is a colossus capture. His presence will inspire the youth and his desire will instill a winning mentality. Look forward to seeing him back at Ewood. Future gaffer?

Future gaffer, have you seen his C.V. he is a total failure. Givet signed his contract under the last regime when we would never have forseen this bunch of clowns in charge, it is common knowledge Murphy and Gomes are on big money so why not pay Givet what he is asking afterall we need defenders and it would be cheaper to pay him a few quid than replace him with a nobody,Givet is everything we will need in the championship.

French Rover wrote:

IrishRover3 wrote:

Harwoodstblue wrote:

French Rover wrote:
Givet would be invaluable to Rovers in the championship...his experience and determination to win are key factors as to why Rovers should do all they can to reach a compromise with him on salary. Let Givet go and we would have to replace him and that wouldn't be easy as there don't seem to be that many good defenders (who can play CH or RB) available.

Give Givet his Euros...

They won't pay him, the tight B*sturds.

It seems that this articial states that they will not back down on not cutting Givet's pay because it will cause the rest of the players to do the same, well the flip of this coin is that if they don't back down there will be a mass exodus, which would mean having to pay out more for replacements, this is false economy and stinks of agent involvement. It seems from my perspective that all the money is going on an inflated management structure when the business end suffers just so the owners can get their cut, the onlt solution is to not bring henry on board, and if they have to, some else must go, slash the management positions pay by half or get rid i.e. Kean should only be allowed to claim job seekers and work less than 16 hours a week to allow him to do so, cos theres better managers on the dole.....

Surely you cannot complain about the fact that at last we do have 'a' management structure in place? Even though you may not like all who fill the places.

We all complained bitterly that the club was 'rudderless' and needed some structure after they emptied all the offices (almost) at Ewood last season - well now we have some communication and some structure.

We do need to give this structure a chance albeit I do not include our 'manager' in that...

Anyway we should have enough 'incomings' from the sales of Robinson, Olsson and Dann to cover the wages of all our players for this season.

burnleyglentoran wrote:
"Blackburn dad jailed for having sex with 14-year-old daughter" Shocking - somebody in Blackburn HAS a dad!! IN VENKYS WE TRUST

noddymcleod wrote:
A contract is a contract - unless you're a football player.
Sad but entirely understandable if Givet goes, just the kind of all-action never-say-die spirit we need to stay in the Championship.

makaveli96 wrote:

burnleyglentoran wrote:
"Blackburn dad jailed for having sex with 14-year-old daughter" Shocking - somebody in Blackburn HAS a dad!! IN VENKYS WE TRUST

Yes we all do in Great Britain!

What next? Inbreeding on the Shankill?

IrishRover3 wrote:

makaveli96 wrote:

burnleyglentoran wrote:
"Blackburn dad jailed for having sex with 14-year-old daughter" Shocking - somebody in Blackburn HAS a dad!! IN VENKYS WE TRUST

Yes we all do in Great Britain!

What next? Inbreeding on the Shankill?

If hes a glentoran supporter then he's not from the shankill normally, imagine supporting to unless teams, come on COYB (i.e. Linfield and Rovers)!

bring back the good old days wrote:

noddymcleod wrote:
A contract is a contract - unless you're a football player.
Sad but entirely understandable if Givet goes, just the kind of all-action never-say-die spirit we need to stay in the Championship.

Lets put it this way, if he desires to stay in UK, I could see 2/3rds of the Prem. teams being interested.
Like me, I believe they will rate him highly.

At the end of the day, quality costs.

Harwoodstblue wrote:

IrishRover3 wrote:

rankoutsider wrote:
Can only hope that Givet stays on, bar far and away the best centre half at the club.

On a side note its going to be a massive year for young Adam Henley - could end up being 1st choice left back looking at the squad list and bearing outgoing transfers . . . . good luck kidda.

Take it from me, the norm is the opposite to common sense, and there ain't to much common sense to be found in the board room! If the owners can get rid of Givet, they have the perfect way of doing it, just by not paying him what he is worth. If I was givet and they cut my pay and expected me to perform, i'd just let the ipswich strikers past me and keep on doing so with the rest of the teams till i was not allowed to play and just warm the bench till Christmas, surely by that time they would be desperate to off load....

Of course they'll get rid of Givet. It will bring another couple of million in for them, then replace him with a cheaper option. Not as good, but cheaper.

Harwoodstblue wrote:

bring back the good old days wrote:

noddymcleod wrote:
A contract is a contract - unless you're a football player.
Sad but entirely understandable if Givet goes, just the kind of all-action never-say-die spirit we need to stay in the Championship.

Lets put it this way, if he desires to stay in UK, I could see 2/3rds of the Prem. teams being interested.
Like me, I believe they will rate him highly.

At the end of the day, quality costs.

Of course 'quality costs'.....Something Venkeys' seem incapable of understanding.

Hence, getting rid of all the quality. Is it any wonder we are were we are ?

burnleyglentoran wrote:
"Blackburn dad jailed for having sex with 14-year-old daughter"

Shocking - somebody in Blackburn HAS a dad!!

IN VENKYS WE TRUST

IrishRover3 wrote:

Harwoodstblue wrote:

bring back the good old days wrote:

noddymcleod wrote:
A contract is a contract - unless you're a football player.
Sad but entirely understandable if Givet goes, just the kind of all-action never-say-die spirit we need to stay in the Championship.

Lets put it this way, if he desires to stay in UK, I could see 2/3rds of the Prem. teams being interested.
Like me, I believe they will rate him highly.

At the end of the day, quality costs.

Of course 'quality costs'.....Something Venkeys' seem incapable of understanding.

Hence, getting rid of all the quality. Is it any wonder we are were we are ?

Just look at their business, not to much quality there, probably why their business hasn suffered and needs brfc to prop it up....!

benal13 wrote:

fitz808 wrote:
if only some people weren't taking their bat and ball home and not buying season tickets. we might then have a bit more in the bank to sort out these contract disputes...
sorry, couldn't resist. i am well aware of the situation being much more complicated than that so hold your horses on the tirade of abuse!

so FRITZ808 you trust this lot with YOUR money or are you agnew in disguise?

bburnrover wrote:
We definately need to retain Givet and Dann -Ollson isnt that good so he can go as long as we can replace him with solid British defender.I do not care about the Venkeys getting any money any more as they never spend the money they receive off outgoing players they just seem to open a new enterprise in India.
This last French guy Silva does not look that keen on coming perhaps he has seen a Kean Out banner in Portugal.I noticed he has only scored 9 goals in total in the last few years so it is obvious we would be better off doing more reseach before polarising all our searches in one country just because Kean can speak Portugese,why does he not go straight to Brazil and get some of their international defenders if its the language that matters?
The squad looks healthy now but if Nzoni ,Givet,Hoilett and Robinson leave soon I dont think we will be much of a threat unless Dunn and Pederson start playing again.

Oakdale blue wrote:

100%ROVERS wrote:
SHAME ON YOU COLIN HENDRY !!! CHEAP SCUMBAG !!! I supported you at Wembley in the FMC .. I chanted Colin Colin show us your arse at Ewood I backed you when the crowd all chanted "You can stick your f***** City up your arse" at Ewood befor your mov to Man City... I was in the BB end enclosure when you knocked off that female coppers hat !!!! Ive always spoken to you in the street / at Ewood / in the pub ... BUT TAKING THE VENKY's MONEY IS THE LOWEST OF THE LOW YOU CHEAP SCUMBAG .. YOU HAVE BETRAYED THIS CLUB & ITS LOYAL FANS - SHAME ON YOU COLIN !!!!

What planet are you from?
After last years disasterous attempts at defending we are desperate for some quality defensive coaching and none better than someone who still bleeds blue and white and has a wealth of experience.

Colin Hendry would be a most welcome addition to the coaching staff.

The anti-Venky cry is old hat now, they are here, learning quickly from their mistakes and will still be here for some time to come, so instead of wasting your time knocking the club and what it is now trying to put right, use your energy in getting behind the club and aim for a quick return to the big time.

Oakdale blue wrote:

100%ROVERS wrote:
SHAME ON YOU COLIN HENDRY !!! CHEAP SCUMBAG !!! I supported you at Wembley in the FMC .. I chanted Colin Colin show us your arse at Ewood I backed you when the crowd all chanted "You can stick your f***** City up your arse" at Ewood befor your mov to Man City... I was in the BB end enclosure when you knocked off that female coppers hat !!!! Ive always spoken to you in the street / at Ewood / in the pub ... BUT TAKING THE VENKY's MONEY IS THE LOWEST OF THE LOW YOU CHEAP SCUMBAG .. YOU HAVE BETRAYED THIS CLUB & ITS LOYAL FANS - SHAME ON YOU COLIN !!!!

What planet are you from?
After last years disasterous attempts at defending we are desperate for some quality defensive coaching and none better than someone who still bleeds blue and white and has a wealth of experience.

Colin Hendry would be a most welcome addition to the coaching staff.

The anti-Venky cry is old hat now, they are here, learning quickly from their mistakes and will still be here for some time to come, so instead of wasting your time knocking the club and what it is now trying to put right, use your energy in getting behind the club and aim for a quick return to the big time.

BlueSkies wrote:
Anybody said "sorry" yet?

fitz808 wrote:

benal13 wrote:

fitz808 wrote:
if only some people weren't taking their bat and ball home and not buying season tickets. we might then have a bit more in the bank to sort out these contract disputes...
sorry, couldn't resist. i am well aware of the situation being much more complicated than that so hold your horses on the tirade of abuse!

so FRITZ808 you trust this lot with YOUR money or are you agnew in disguise?

if i was in a position to buy a season ticket, which i'm not because i work out of the country for large parts of the year, i would purchase one. but not in any way to entrust it to venkys. i would pay my money for the following rather simple exchange - to watch the rovers home games at ewood over the course of the 12/13 season. it's a rather simple exchange, and one which provides excellent value if you like watching live football.
for me, it doesn't need to be any more complex than that. of course, we would all have liked the last 18 months to have been very different, but it is not. there will be very little venkys can do to stop me supporting the club in the normal way. it doesn't for one moment mean i need to trust them with my money, like them or anything else.
also, deliberately mispelling a username is pretty lame, but hey-ho, go for it if it makes you feel particularly good about yourself. and secondly, i am not wearing a disguise, and last time i checked, i was the same person i have always been. and that person has never been paul agnew. happy to pass on the info if you were in some way confused.

lightamatch catcharabbit wrote:
I can't understand for one minute the attitude of some towards Colin Hendry. In my opinion, he is in the top three for our club in the last twenty-odd years along with Shearer and Tugay (sorry, four with Friedel). His management record isn't great by any stretch and I'm not sure about his coaching ability, but if all that he does is bring some grit and determination to the defence that tightens it up, then it's a worthwhile move. What happened outside of football, on the back of a terrible event, doesn't (or shouldn't) come in to it. I'm pretty sure he has to come to terms with it himself as the man that he is. And there are signs that improvements in the structure of the club are coming about (accepting the disgraceful way it was dismantled in the first place). 'Kean Out' is a given for me and I haven't renewed, so don't come back with any of the usual c**p. Having said that, does anyone know if there is a link or what the reason is that most of our signings happen to be Portuguese? Serious question.

lightamatch catcharabbit wrote:
I can't understand for one minute the attitude of some towards Colin Hendry.

In my opinion, he is in the top three for our club in the last twenty-odd years along with Shearer and Tugay (sorry, four with Friedel). His management record isn't great by any stretch and I'm not sure about his coaching ability, but if all that he does is bring some grit and determination to the defence that tightens it up, then it's a worthwhile move. What happened outside of football, on the back of a terrible event, doesn't (or shouldn't) come in to it. I'm pretty sure he has to come to terms with it himself as the man that he is.

And there are signs that improvements in the structure of the club are coming about (accepting the disgraceful way it was dismantled in the first place). 'Kean Out' is a given for me and I haven't renewed, so don't come back with any of the usual c**p.

Having said that, does anyone know if there is a link or what the reason is that most of our signings happen to be Portuguese? Serious question.

benal13 wrote:

fitz808 wrote:

benal13 wrote:

fitz808 wrote:
if only some people weren't taking their bat and ball home and not buying season tickets. we might then have a bit more in the bank to sort out these contract disputes...
sorry, couldn't resist. i am well aware of the situation being much more complicated than that so hold your horses on the tirade of abuse!

so FRITZ808 you trust this lot with YOUR money or are you agnew in disguise?

if i was in a position to buy a season ticket, which i'm not because i work out of the country for large parts of the year, i would purchase one. but not in any way to entrust it to venkys. i would pay my money for the following rather simple exchange - to watch the rovers home games at ewood over the course of the 12/13 season. it's a rather simple exchange, and one which provides excellent value if you like watching live football.
for me, it doesn't need to be any more complex than that. of course, we would all have liked the last 18 months to have been very different, but it is not. there will be very little venkys can do to stop me supporting the club in the normal way. it doesn't for one moment mean i need to trust them with my money, like them or anything else.
also, deliberately mispelling a username is pretty lame, but hey-ho, go for it if it makes you feel particularly good about yourself. and secondly, i am not wearing a disguise, and last time i checked, i was the same person i have always been. and that person has never been paul agnew. happy to pass on the info if you were in some way confused.

sorry FRITZ808 id better not say anything else or you may accuse me of being xenophobic like you do to everyone else when you dont agree with there posts how sad!

fitz808 wrote:

benal13 wrote:

fitz808 wrote:

benal13 wrote:

fitz808 wrote:
if only some people weren't taking their bat and ball home and not buying season tickets. we might then have a bit more in the bank to sort out these contract disputes...
sorry, couldn't resist. i am well aware of the situation being much more complicated than that so hold your horses on the tirade of abuse!

so FRITZ808 you trust this lot with YOUR money or are you agnew in disguise?

if i was in a position to buy a season ticket, which i'm not because i work out of the country for large parts of the year, i would purchase one. but not in any way to entrust it to venkys. i would pay my money for the following rather simple exchange - to watch the rovers home games at ewood over the course of the 12/13 season. it's a rather simple exchange, and one which provides excellent value if you like watching live football.
for me, it doesn't need to be any more complex than that. of course, we would all have liked the last 18 months to have been very different, but it is not. there will be very little venkys can do to stop me supporting the club in the normal way. it doesn't for one moment mean i need to trust them with my money, like them or anything else.
also, deliberately mispelling a username is pretty lame, but hey-ho, go for it if it makes you feel particularly good about yourself. and secondly, i am not wearing a disguise, and last time i checked, i was the same person i have always been. and that person has never been paul agnew. happy to pass on the info if you were in some way confused.

sorry FRITZ808 id better not say anything else or you may accuse me of being xenophobic like you do to everyone else when you dont agree with there posts how sad!

great, some opportunity for critical analysis. here goes:
1) i'm no expert, but i'm pretty sure the FRITZ808 things is not funny. and certainly not worth shouting.
2) in no way can i, or indeed would i want to, stop you or anyone else commenting. i sometimes feel posting comments against the ownership/management for the 200th time of the day is a bit pointless, but it's your time so good luck to you. whatever happens, i have no means by which to stop you so your fear is very much misplaced
3) i believe my use of the term 'xenophobic' yesterday was in relation to someone who felt shebby singh was not fit for the post largely because of his geographical background. i merely felt that had a ring of xenophobia about it, but in no way could i or would i suggest they couldn't continue to make their point.
4) as far as i'm aware, i have only made such a comment once, so i think everyone else is safe from the harm
5) i have quite often stated that others are entitled to their opinions about STs or any other mode of supporting rovers, so have no quarms with those who wish to hold a different opinion to mine. i am certainly aware enough to realise i would be in the minority on here.
...still, apart from that Benal, everything was spot on.
keep up the good work.

fitz808 wrote:

benal13 wrote:

fitz808 wrote:

benal13 wrote:

fitz808 wrote:
if only some people weren't taking their bat and ball home and not buying season tickets. we might then have a bit more in the bank to sort out these contract disputes...
sorry, couldn't resist. i am well aware of the situation being much more complicated than that so hold your horses on the tirade of abuse!

so FRITZ808 you trust this lot with YOUR money or are you agnew in disguise?

if i was in a position to buy a season ticket, which i'm not because i work out of the country for large parts of the year, i would purchase one. but not in any way to entrust it to venkys. i would pay my money for the following rather simple exchange - to watch the rovers home games at ewood over the course of the 12/13 season. it's a rather simple exchange, and one which provides excellent value if you like watching live football.
for me, it doesn't need to be any more complex than that. of course, we would all have liked the last 18 months to have been very different, but it is not. there will be very little venkys can do to stop me supporting the club in the normal way. it doesn't for one moment mean i need to trust them with my money, like them or anything else.
also, deliberately mispelling a username is pretty lame, but hey-ho, go for it if it makes you feel particularly good about yourself. and secondly, i am not wearing a disguise, and last time i checked, i was the same person i have always been. and that person has never been paul agnew. happy to pass on the info if you were in some way confused.

sorry FRITZ808 id better not say anything else or you may accuse me of being xenophobic like you do to everyone else when you dont agree with there posts how sad!

great, some opportunity for critical analysis. here goes:
1) i'm no expert, but i'm pretty sure the FRITZ808 things is not funny. and certainly not worth shouting.
2) in no way can i, or indeed would i want to, stop you or anyone else commenting. i sometimes feel posting comments against the ownership/management for the 200th time of the day is a bit pointless, but it's your time so good luck to you. whatever happens, i have no means by which to stop you so your fear is very much misplaced
3) i believe my use of the term 'xenophobic' yesterday was in relation to someone who felt shebby singh was not fit for the post largely because of his geographical background. i merely felt that had a ring of xenophobia about it, but in no way could i or would i suggest they couldn't continue to make their point.
4) as far as i'm aware, i have only made such a comment once, so i think everyone else is safe from the harm
5) i have quite often stated that others are entitled to their opinions about STs or any other mode of supporting rovers, so have no quarms with those who wish to hold a different opinion to mine. i am certainly aware enough to realise i would be in the minority on here.
...still, apart from that Benal, everything was spot on.
keep up the good work.

givet82 wrote:

fitz808 wrote:

benal13 wrote:

fitz808 wrote:

benal13 wrote:

fitz808 wrote:
if only some people weren't taking their bat and ball home and not buying season tickets. we might then have a bit more in the bank to sort out these contract disputes...
sorry, couldn't resist. i am well aware of the situation being much more complicated than that so hold your horses on the tirade of abuse!

so FRITZ808 you trust this lot with YOUR money or are you agnew in disguise?

if i was in a position to buy a season ticket, which i'm not because i work out of the country for large parts of the year, i would purchase one. but not in any way to entrust it to venkys. i would pay my money for the following rather simple exchange - to watch the rovers home games at ewood over the course of the 12/13 season. it's a rather simple exchange, and one which provides excellent value if you like watching live football.
for me, it doesn't need to be any more complex than that. of course, we would all have liked the last 18 months to have been very different, but it is not. there will be very little venkys can do to stop me supporting the club in the normal way. it doesn't for one moment mean i need to trust them with my money, like them or anything else.
also, deliberately mispelling a username is pretty lame, but hey-ho, go for it if it makes you feel particularly good about yourself. and secondly, i am not wearing a disguise, and last time i checked, i was the same person i have always been. and that person has never been paul agnew. happy to pass on the info if you were in some way confused.

sorry FRITZ808 id better not say anything else or you may accuse me of being xenophobic like you do to everyone else when you dont agree with there posts how sad!

great, some opportunity for critical analysis. here goes:
1) i'm no expert, but i'm pretty sure the FRITZ808 things is not funny. and certainly not worth shouting.
2) in no way can i, or indeed would i want to, stop you or anyone else commenting. i sometimes feel posting comments against the ownership/management for the 200th time of the day is a bit pointless, but it's your time so good luck to you. whatever happens, i have no means by which to stop you so your fear is very much misplaced
3) i believe my use of the term 'xenophobic' yesterday was in relation to someone who felt shebby singh was not fit for the post largely because of his geographical background. i merely felt that had a ring of xenophobia about it, but in no way could i or would i suggest they couldn't continue to make their point.
4) as far as i'm aware, i have only made such a comment once, so i think everyone else is safe from the harm
5) i have quite often stated that others are entitled to their opinions about STs or any other mode of supporting rovers, so have no quarms with those who wish to hold a different opinion to mine. i am certainly aware enough to realise i would be in the minority on here.
...still, apart from that Benal, everything was spot on.
keep up the good work.

fitz808 you talk sense, i get abuse because i don't do the singh out murphy out hendry out nonsense, full of whining plonker's on here that would never be happy even if kean were sacked they would find something to whinge about it's not constructive boring and repetative

RUinsane wrote:
Givet is by far our best centre half, to push him towards the door at this stage would be madness considering what options we have left. I really hope he stays

Matt Newcastle wrote:
Newcastle Eve Chronicle.

Toon no to Hoilett they are looking at 18 year old from Coventry Gael Bigirimana for £500,000

Hoilett wanted £50,000 a week and coupled with the compensation Rovers sought looks like they have dropped out so obvious Hoilett wants out

How many more?

fitz808 wrote:

benal13 wrote:

fitz808 wrote:
if only some people weren't taking their bat and ball home and not buying season tickets. we might then have a bit more in the bank to sort out these contract disputes...
sorry, couldn't resist. i am well aware of the situation being much more complicated than that so hold your horses on the tirade of abuse!

so FRITZ808 you trust this lot with YOUR money or are you agnew in disguise?

if i was in a position to buy a season ticket, which i'm not because i work out of the country for large parts of the year, i would purchase one. but not in any way to entrust it to venkys. i would pay my money for the following rather simple exchange - to watch the rovers home games at ewood over the course of the 12/13 season. it's a rather simple exchange, and one which provides excellent value if you like watching live football.
for me, it doesn't need to be any more complex than that. of course, we would all have liked the last 18 months to have been very different, but it is not. there will be very little venkys can do to stop me supporting the club in the normal way. it doesn't for one moment mean i need to trust them with my money, like them or anything else.
also, deliberately mispelling a username is pretty lame, but hey-ho, go for it if it makes you feel particularly good about yourself. and secondly, i am not wearing a disguise, and last time i checked, i was the same person i have always been. and that person has never been paul agnew. happy to pass on the info if you were in some way confused.

eddie the eagle wrote:
Clubs like West Brom have benefited by having good contracts in place when they are relegated,others have gone down the plughole by paying premiership wages on championship income.
If you are a player that other teams want then it is a fact of life that you will be sold in the event of relegation.Givet only get out is that somebody is prepared to buy him,otherwise he plays for Rovers on the contract he signed.If Rovers are desperate to keep him then they will have to find him some extra cash.

lightamatch catcharabbit wrote:
I can't understand for one minute the attitude of some towards Colin Hendry.

In my opinion, he is in the top three for our club in the last twenty-odd years along with Shearer and Tugay (sorry, four with Friedel). His management record isn't great by any stretch and I'm not sure about his coaching ability, but if all that he does is bring some grit and determination to the defence that tightens it up, then it's a worthwhile move. What happened outside of football, on the back of a terrible event, doesn't (or shouldn't) come in to it. I'm pretty sure he has to come to terms with it himself as the man that he is.

And there are signs that improvements in the structure of the club are coming about (accepting the disgraceful way it was dismantled in the first place). 'Kean Out' is a given for me and I haven't renewed, so don't come back with any of the usual c**p.

Having said that, does anyone know if there is a link or what the reason is that most of our signings happen to be Portuguese? Serious question.

A Darener wrote:
Hoilett is ok on his day. Trouble is his days aren't often enough. He is a legend in his own mind.he will have to considerably lower his wage demands to move to a PL club. Where he will find he is nothing more than a bench warmer, soon forgotten.

BlueSkies wrote:
Some posters on here seem amazed that many of us do not share their positive approach to all things BRFC.

I am unable to cast aside how we fans have been ill-informed, ignored and disrespected since the takeover.

Without going over all the old issues, there is not much that convinces me that this club is going in the right direction and why? because we have no plan, no agenda. We cannot see where we are going.

There is no common 'goal' to bind us together. Why? Because nobody (Shebby apart) has tried to talk to us, involve us. John Williams was universally popular because of his open, transparent approach. In his place we have a wall of silence. Nobody to say why certain decisions were made and what their purpose was. Because of that silence, rumours start of sinister deeds that therefore gain credibilty and support.

That the Action Group can present a 400 page dossier to the EPL and the FA, supported by a host of local leaders and politicians, that is now under investigation only serves to suggest malpractice.

And still no-one says sorry for the mess we are in.

I remain positive though, that one day those individuals who are protecting their own interests will eventually leave and we will pick up the pieces.

Lancs - pensioner wrote:
Has anyone seen Myles Anderson?

benal13 wrote:

lightamatch catcharabbit wrote:
I can't understand for one minute the attitude of some towards Colin Hendry.

In my opinion, he is in the top three for our club in the last twenty-odd years along with Shearer and Tugay (sorry, four with Friedel). His management record isn't great by any stretch and I'm not sure about his coaching ability, but if all that he does is bring some grit and determination to the defence that tightens it up, then it's a worthwhile move. What happened outside of football, on the back of a terrible event, doesn't (or shouldn't) come in to it. I'm pretty sure he has to come to terms with it himself as the man that he is.

And there are signs that improvements in the structure of the club are coming about (accepting the disgraceful way it was dismantled in the first place). 'Kean Out' is a given for me and I haven't renewed, so don't come back with any of the usual c**p.

Having said that, does anyone know if there is a link or what the reason is that most of our signings happen to be Portuguese? Serious question.

you say hendrys management record isnt great and your not sure about his coaching ability what the hell do you want him here for then. when hendry played the grit and determination he showed cannot be taught or coached into someone its just something players are born with, has for your last question kean just likes portugezzers its a fetish,

Roy Race wrote:

lightamatch catcharabbit wrote:
I can't understand for one minute the attitude of some towards Colin Hendry. In my opinion, he is in the top three for our club in the last twenty-odd years along with Shearer and Tugay (sorry, four with Friedel). His management record isn't great by any stretch and I'm not sure about his coaching ability, but if all that he does is bring some grit and determination to the defence that tightens it up, then it's a worthwhile move. What happened outside of football, on the back of a terrible event, doesn't (or shouldn't) come in to it. I'm pretty sure he has to come to terms with it himself as the man that he is. And there are signs that improvements in the structure of the club are coming about (accepting the disgraceful way it was dismantled in the first place). 'Kean Out' is a given for me and I haven't renewed, so don't come back with any of the usual c**p. Having said that, does anyone know if there is a link or what the reason is that most of our signings happen to be Portuguese? Serious question.

Sadly Colin has also let us down very badly 3 times lightamatch? Sad but true and it has tarnished his reputation - supporting Kean has done him a great deal of harm.

BlueSkies wrote:
Some posters on here seem amazed that many of us do not share their positive approach to all things BRFC.

I am unable to cast aside how we fans have been ill-informed, ignored and disrespected since the takeover.

Without going over all the old issues, there is not much that convinces me that this club is going in the right direction and why? because we have no plan, no agenda. We cannot see where we are going.

There is no common 'goal' to bind us together. Why? Because nobody (Shebby apart) has tried to talk to us, involve us. John Williams was universally popular because of his open, transparent approach. In his place we have a wall of silence. Nobody to say why certain decisions were made and what their purpose was. Because of that silence, rumours start of sinister deeds that therefore gain credibilty and support.

That the Action Group can present a 400 page dossier to the EPL and the FA, supported by a host of local leaders and politicians, that is now under investigation only serves to suggest malpractice.

And still no-one says sorry for the mess we are in.

I remain positive though, that one day those individuals who are protecting their own interests will eventually leave and we will pick up the pieces.

IrishRover3 wrote:

makaveli96 wrote:

burnleyglentoran wrote:
"Blackburn dad jailed for having sex with 14-year-old daughter" Shocking - somebody in Blackburn HAS a dad!! IN VENKYS WE TRUST

Yes we all do in Great Britain!

What next? Inbreeding on the Shankill?

If hes a glentoran supporter then he's not from the shankill normally, imagine supporting to unless teams, come on COYB (i.e. Linfield and Rovers)!

Billypieman wrote:

IrishRover3 wrote:

makaveli96 wrote:

burnleyglentoran wrote:
"Blackburn dad jailed for having sex with 14-year-old daughter" Shocking - somebody in Blackburn HAS a dad!! IN VENKYS WE TRUST

Yes we all do in Great Britain!

What next? Inbreeding on the Shankill?

If hes a glentoran supporter then he's not from the shankill normally, imagine supporting to unless teams, come on COYB (i.e. Linfield and Rovers)!

Hi Irish Rover. I had a go at that idiotic Dingle a while back. Asked him what he thought of Glens being fourth best team in Belfast. He didn't even know who Glentoran were, even though that's his name. Too much interbreeding has messed with his Dingle brain I'm afraid.

benal13 wrote:

fitz808 wrote:

benal13 wrote:

fitz808 wrote:

benal13 wrote:

fitz808 wrote:
if only some people weren't taking their bat and ball home and not buying season tickets. we might then have a bit more in the bank to sort out these contract disputes...
sorry, couldn't resist. i am well aware of the situation being much more complicated than that so hold your horses on the tirade of abuse!

so FRITZ808 you trust this lot with YOUR money or are you agnew in disguise?

if i was in a position to buy a season ticket, which i'm not because i work out of the country for large parts of the year, i would purchase one. but not in any way to entrust it to venkys. i would pay my money for the following rather simple exchange - to watch the rovers home games at ewood over the course of the 12/13 season. it's a rather simple exchange, and one which provides excellent value if you like watching live football.
for me, it doesn't need to be any more complex than that. of course, we would all have liked the last 18 months to have been very different, but it is not. there will be very little venkys can do to stop me supporting the club in the normal way. it doesn't for one moment mean i need to trust them with my money, like them or anything else.
also, deliberately mispelling a username is pretty lame, but hey-ho, go for it if it makes you feel particularly good about yourself. and secondly, i am not wearing a disguise, and last time i checked, i was the same person i have always been. and that person has never been paul agnew. happy to pass on the info if you were in some way confused.

sorry FRITZ808 id better not say anything else or you may accuse me of being xenophobic like you do to everyone else when you dont agree with there posts how sad!

great, some opportunity for critical analysis. here goes:
1) i'm no expert, but i'm pretty sure the FRITZ808 things is not funny. and certainly not worth shouting.
2) in no way can i, or indeed would i want to, stop you or anyone else commenting. i sometimes feel posting comments against the ownership/management for the 200th time of the day is a bit pointless, but it's your time so good luck to you. whatever happens, i have no means by which to stop you so your fear is very much misplaced
3) i believe my use of the term 'xenophobic' yesterday was in relation to someone who felt shebby singh was not fit for the post largely because of his geographical background. i merely felt that had a ring of xenophobia about it, but in no way could i or would i suggest they couldn't continue to make their point.
4) as far as i'm aware, i have only made such a comment once, so i think everyone else is safe from the harm
5) i have quite often stated that others are entitled to their opinions about STs or any other mode of supporting rovers, so have no quarms with those who wish to hold a different opinion to mine. i am certainly aware enough to realise i would be in the minority on here.
...still, apart from that Benal, everything was spot on.
keep up the good work.

GUESS I WILL NOT BE GETTING A CHRISTMAS CARD THIS YEAR THEN fritz808

lightamatch catcharabbit wrote:

benal13 wrote:

lightamatch catcharabbit wrote:
I can't understand for one minute the attitude of some towards Colin Hendry.

In my opinion, he is in the top three for our club in the last twenty-odd years along with Shearer and Tugay (sorry, four with Friedel). His management record isn't great by any stretch and I'm not sure about his coaching ability, but if all that he does is bring some grit and determination to the defence that tightens it up, then it's a worthwhile move. What happened outside of football, on the back of a terrible event, doesn't (or shouldn't) come in to it. I'm pretty sure he has to come to terms with it himself as the man that he is.

And there are signs that improvements in the structure of the club are coming about (accepting the disgraceful way it was dismantled in the first place). 'Kean Out' is a given for me and I haven't renewed, so don't come back with any of the usual c**p.

Having said that, does anyone know if there is a link or what the reason is that most of our signings happen to be Portuguese? Serious question.

you say hendrys management record isnt great and your not sure about his coaching ability what the hell do you want him here for then. when hendry played the grit and determination he showed cannot be taught or coached into someone its just something players are born with, has for your last question kean just likes portugezzers its a fetish,

Of course it can be coached - it's a mindset. He's a winner and that can be instilled, particularly in younger players.

As for your response to the Portuguese link, well, that was just a schoolboy response.

vicn1956 wrote:
They seek him here. They seek him there. Myles Anderson.
Still waiting for an apology GET REAL Dunn.

bring back the good old days wrote:

Matt Newcastle wrote:
Newcastle Eve Chronicle.

Toon no to Hoilett they are looking at 18 year old from Coventry Gael Bigirimana for £500,000

Hoilett wanted £50,000 a week and coupled with the compensation Rovers sought looks like they have dropped out so obvious Hoilett wants out

How many more?

In his head he's the bee's knee's and that is going to be his undoing.

His wage demands will severely limit his options of where he is to end up.
Still don't think he is the 'finished article' he thinks he is, and that his where the more shrewd manager will be pitching his worth.

fitz808 wrote:

benal13 wrote:

fitz808 wrote:

benal13 wrote:

fitz808 wrote:

benal13 wrote:

fitz808 wrote:
if only some people weren't taking their bat and ball home and not buying season tickets. we might then have a bit more in the bank to sort out these contract disputes...
sorry, couldn't resist. i am well aware of the situation being much more complicated than that so hold your horses on the tirade of abuse!

so FRITZ808 you trust this lot with YOUR money or are you agnew in disguise?

if i was in a position to buy a season ticket, which i'm not because i work out of the country for large parts of the year, i would purchase one. but not in any way to entrust it to venkys. i would pay my money for the following rather simple exchange - to watch the rovers home games at ewood over the course of the 12/13 season. it's a rather simple exchange, and one which provides excellent value if you like watching live football.
for me, it doesn't need to be any more complex than that. of course, we would all have liked the last 18 months to have been very different, but it is not. there will be very little venkys can do to stop me supporting the club in the normal way. it doesn't for one moment mean i need to trust them with my money, like them or anything else.
also, deliberately mispelling a username is pretty lame, but hey-ho, go for it if it makes you feel particularly good about yourself. and secondly, i am not wearing a disguise, and last time i checked, i was the same person i have always been. and that person has never been paul agnew. happy to pass on the info if you were in some way confused.

sorry FRITZ808 id better not say anything else or you may accuse me of being xenophobic like you do to everyone else when you dont agree with there posts how sad!

great, some opportunity for critical analysis. here goes:
1) i'm no expert, but i'm pretty sure the FRITZ808 things is not funny. and certainly not worth shouting.
2) in no way can i, or indeed would i want to, stop you or anyone else commenting. i sometimes feel posting comments against the ownership/management for the 200th time of the day is a bit pointless, but it's your time so good luck to you. whatever happens, i have no means by which to stop you so your fear is very much misplaced
3) i believe my use of the term 'xenophobic' yesterday was in relation to someone who felt shebby singh was not fit for the post largely because of his geographical background. i merely felt that had a ring of xenophobia about it, but in no way could i or would i suggest they couldn't continue to make their point.
4) as far as i'm aware, i have only made such a comment once, so i think everyone else is safe from the harm
5) i have quite often stated that others are entitled to their opinions about STs or any other mode of supporting rovers, so have no quarms with those who wish to hold a different opinion to mine. i am certainly aware enough to realise i would be in the minority on here.
...still, apart from that Benal, everything was spot on.
keep up the good work.

GUESS I WILL NOT BE GETTING A CHRISTMAS CARD THIS YEAR THEN fritz808

i guess not benal, however, i haven't sent a single one for a good 20 years, so i guess that doesn't say much. to be fair, i don't really mind the banter either, so you're not top of my xenophobia bashing hit list either! long may we revel in our own insane and inane opinions!!

Ianwhittam wrote:
Honest to god...is it not blindingly obvious to anyone? The one thing that unites us all, is an unchanging attitude demanding that kean has to go! Lets not fall into the trap of listing names and organisations at the end of every posting, we all need to do whatever it takes to keep the focus on removing Kean and appointing a football manager instead. In all honesty, I know little enough about Shebby singh, I accept that the Venkys are naive, know little about football and been duped by others with financial self-interest. The facts are that the signings we have recently made are pretty good and genuinely seem to be aimed at a real promotion attempt. I do not credit Kean with any of these signings, they more likely stem from singh and others. Every time we bang on about Anderson, Venkys, kentaro et al, we take the focus off the one individual that should take the blame for what happens on the pitch.... I would still like to see the whole sorry bunch out of our club, but the one who should be called to account immediately, if not last year, is steve Kean; I tell you what, please respond to this post by telling me which past Rovers manager was so disrespected, mistrusted, and utterly loathed, more than our present excuse for a manager. I can't think of one, and every time he stands, like some dementing weeble, on Rovers pitch, he shows utter contempt for those serious supporters who also give to the club week in, week out whilst all he has done is take, take, take! We should all be roaring KEAN OUT every chance we get.

bluewindow wrote:
Am i the only rovers fan to think gael signed the contract knowing if we went down he'd have to take a 50% cut so honor your contract which HE signed and get on with it!!

lowelife wrote:

CheshireRover wrote:
I love Givet as much as anyone, however, let's not forget this is a contractual pay cut we're talking about, he signed the contract, we would be critical of most players if they tried to renegotiate once the clause was triggered. He was a member of the squad that got us relegated. Also, if the only option for him to stay is for us to give him more money, how does that make him any better than the so called 'money grabbing' players we've signed since? Keep no one that doesn't want to be here to get the club back into the premier league as their primary desire. RTID

Agnew, shouldn't you be wiping Mr. Kean's bum?

BlueSkies wrote:
Some posters on here seem amazed that many of us do not share their positive approach to all things BRFC.

I am unable to cast aside how we fans have been ill-informed, ignored and disrespected since the takeover.

Without going over all the old issues, there is not much that convinces me that this club is going in the right direction and why? because we have no plan, no agenda. We cannot see where we are going.

There is no common 'goal' to bind us together. Why? Because nobody (Shebby apart) has tried to talk to us, involve us. John Williams was universally popular because of his open, transparent approach. In his place we have a wall of silence. Nobody to say why certain decisions were made and what their purpose was. Because of that silence, rumours start of sinister deeds that therefore gain credibilty and support.

That the Action Group can present a 400 page dossier to the EPL and the FA, supported by a host of local leaders and politicians, that is now under investigation only serves to suggest malpractice.

And still no-one says sorry for the mess we are in.

I remain positive though, that one day those individuals who are protecting their own interests will eventually leave and we will pick up the pieces.

BlueSkies wrote:
Some posters on here seem amazed that many of us do not share their positive approach to all things BRFC.

I am unable to cast aside how we fans have been ill-informed, ignored and disrespected since the takeover.

Without going over all the old issues, there is not much that convinces me that this club is going in the right direction and why? because we have no plan, no agenda. We cannot see where we are going.

There is no common 'goal' to bind us together. Why? Because nobody (Shebby apart) has tried to talk to us, involve us. John Williams was universally popular because of his open, transparent approach. In his place we have a wall of silence. Nobody to say why certain decisions were made and what their purpose was. Because of that silence, rumours start of sinister deeds that therefore gain credibilty and support.

That the Action Group can present a 400 page dossier to the EPL and the FA, supported by a host of local leaders and politicians, that is now under investigation only serves to suggest malpractice.

And still no-one says sorry for the mess we are in.

I remain positive though, that one day those individuals who are protecting their own interests will eventually leave and we will pick up the pieces.

lowelife wrote:

Ianwhittam wrote:
Honest to god...is it not blindingly obvious to anyone? The one thing that unites us all, is an unchanging attitude demanding that kean has to go! Lets not fall into the trap of listing names and organisations at the end of every posting, we all need to do whatever it takes to keep the focus on removing Kean and appointing a football manager instead. In all honesty, I know little enough about Shebby singh, I accept that the Venkys are naive, know little about football and been duped by others with financial self-interest. The facts are that the signings we have recently made are pretty good and genuinely seem to be aimed at a real promotion attempt. I do not credit Kean with any of these signings, they more likely stem from singh and others. Every time we bang on about Anderson, Venkys, kentaro et al, we take the focus off the one individual that should take the blame for what happens on the pitch.... I would still like to see the whole sorry bunch out of our club, but the one who should be called to account immediately, if not last year, is steve Kean; I tell you what, please respond to this post by telling me which past Rovers manager was so disrespected, mistrusted, and utterly loathed, more than our present excuse for a manager. I can't think of one, and every time he stands, like some dementing weeble, on Rovers pitch, he shows utter contempt for those serious supporters who also give to the club week in, week out whilst all he has done is take, take, take! We should all be roaring KEAN OUT every chance we get.

This is the finest rallying call I've seen on here for a long time.

Bombard the Rovers board with Kean Out emails, take out newspapr adverts, chant it at all games, either inside or outside the ground. Stand outside kean's house and shout it!

The message WILL get through, eventually.

formerover wrote:

Lancs - pensioner wrote:
Has anyone seen Myles Anderson?

I could be wrong here but isnt his contract up.

French Rover wrote:
Givet would be invaluable to Rovers in the championship...his experience and determination to win are key factors as to why Rovers should do all they can to reach a compromise with him on salary. Let Givet go and we would have to replace him and that wouldn't be easy as there don't seem to be that many good defenders (who can play CH or RB) available.

Give Givet his Euros...

BlueSkies wrote:
Some posters on here seem amazed that many of us do not share their positive approach to all things BRFC.

I am unable to cast aside how we fans have been ill-informed, ignored and disrespected since the takeover.

Without going over all the old issues, there is not much that convinces me that this club is going in the right direction and why? because we have no plan, no agenda. We cannot see where we are going.

There is no common 'goal' to bind us together. Why? Because nobody (Shebby apart) has tried to talk to us, involve us. John Williams was universally popular because of his open, transparent approach. In his place we have a wall of silence. Nobody to say why certain decisions were made and what their purpose was. Because of that silence, rumours start of sinister deeds that therefore gain credibilty and support.

That the Action Group can present a 400 page dossier to the EPL and the FA, supported by a host of local leaders and politicians, that is now under investigation only serves to suggest malpractice.

And still no-one says sorry for the mess we are in.

I remain positive though, that one day those individuals who are protecting their own interests will eventually leave and we will pick up the pieces.

BlueSkies wrote:

RTID RKID wrote:
Givet needs to honour his contracted paycut, but get it back retrospectively as a promotion bonus if he helps us go back up at first attempt.

Hendry is a colossus capture. His presence will inspire the youth and his desire will instill a winning mentality. Look forward to seeing him back at Ewood. Future gaffer?

Future gaffer? You must be Paul Agnew!

dangerous dave wrote:
Oakdle blue get real - Hendry brings nothing to the table his CV in terms of Management etc etc in what ever format an absolute disaster - yes if he does join the rest of the clowns at Brockhall we'll have a mouthy 'global adviser' a 'convicted drink driver' and a 'bankrupt' part of the regime - a laughing stock!!!!!!!!!!!! OUT WITH KEAN AGNEW SINGH VENKYS

HighburyB&W wrote:
Kean said we could never be relegated and we were. Why doesn't he take a 100% pay cut?

BlueSkies wrote:
Some posters on here seem amazed that many of us do not share their positive approach to all things BRFC.

I am unable to cast aside how we fans have been ill-informed, ignored and disrespected since the takeover.

Without going over all the old issues, there is not much that convinces me that this club is going in the right direction and why? because we have no plan, no agenda. We cannot see where we are going.

There is no common 'goal' to bind us together. Why? Because nobody (Shebby apart) has tried to talk to us, involve us. John Williams was universally popular because of his open, transparent approach. In his place we have a wall of silence. Nobody to say why certain decisions were made and what their purpose was. Because of that silence, rumours start of sinister deeds that therefore gain credibilty and support.

That the Action Group can present a 400 page dossier to the EPL and the FA, supported by a host of local leaders and politicians, that is now under investigation only serves to suggest malpractice.

And still no-one says sorry for the mess we are in.

I remain positive though, that one day those individuals who are protecting their own interests will eventually leave and we will pick up the pieces.

baldie wrote:

French Rover wrote:
Givet would be invaluable to Rovers in the championship...his experience and determination to win are key factors as to why Rovers should do all they can to reach a compromise with him on salary. Let Givet go and we would have to replace him and that wouldn't be easy as there don't seem to be that many good defenders (who can play CH or RB) available.

Give Givet his Euros...

Give him a bit of a rise,then the rest as a promotion bonus.
Same with the rest of 'em.

Ewood say that! wrote:

HighburyB&W wrote:
Kean said we could never be relegated and we were. Why doesn't he take a 100% pay cut?

Agreed!He's just breezed back in for another season with not so much as a word of our relegation.Scandalou

s!Andy Cryer should be asking for Kean to reflect on his statement last year "no way will we be relegated" etc.
I've been a tormented soul over the last couple of weeks as my stance against renewing my season ticket was beginning to wane.But yet, again a promise of a 'substantial budget 'has amounted to one £3m signing(who actually seems a decent one) and a mixture of free's...and that's it!
Same old,Same old!!

Harwoodstblue wrote:

Ewood say that! wrote:

HighburyB&W wrote:
Kean said we could never be relegated and we were. Why doesn't he take a 100% pay cut?

Agreed!He's just breezed back in for another season with not so much as a word of our relegation.Scandalou


s!Andy Cryer should be asking for Kean to reflect on his statement last year "no way will we be relegated" etc.
I've been a tormented soul over the last couple of weeks as my stance against renewing my season ticket was beginning to wane.But yet, again a promise of a 'substantial budget 'has amounted to one £3m signing(who actually seems a decent one) and a mixture of free's...and that's it!
Same old,Same old!!

This is what I said earlier.
.
Where is this "substantial budget," which Kean was talking about less than two weeks ago ?
.
They have actually bought only one player and the others for peanuts and "business is now almost done"
.
Nothing different to last year.
.
Don't buy a season ticket. They're taking the p*ss

Oakdale blue wrote:

100%ROVERS wrote:
SHAME ON YOU COLIN HENDRY !!! CHEAP SCUMBAG !!! I supported you at Wembley in the FMC .. I chanted Colin Colin show us your arse at Ewood I backed you when the crowd all chanted "You can stick your f***** City up your arse" at Ewood befor your mov to Man City... I was in the BB end enclosure when you knocked off that female coppers hat !!!! Ive always spoken to you in the street / at Ewood / in the pub ... BUT TAKING THE VENKY's MONEY IS THE LOWEST OF THE LOW YOU CHEAP SCUMBAG .. YOU HAVE BETRAYED THIS CLUB & ITS LOYAL FANS - SHAME ON YOU COLIN !!!!

What planet are you from?
After last years disasterous attempts at defending we are desperate for some quality defensive coaching and none better than someone who still bleeds blue and white and has a wealth of experience.

Colin Hendry would be a most welcome addition to the coaching staff.

The anti-Venky cry is old hat now, they are here, learning quickly from their mistakes and will still be here for some time to come, so instead of wasting your time knocking the club and what it is now trying to put right, use your energy in getting behind the club and aim for a quick return to the big time.

who deany wrote:
im no way pro kean but what good you lot actually doin...BRSIT is doing nothing bunch of no hopers pledging money that they would never put forward. i think another kean is needed ROY KEANE

BlueSkies wrote:
Some posters on here seem amazed that many of us do not share their positive approach to all things BRFC.

I am unable to cast aside how we fans have been ill-informed, ignored and disrespected since the takeover.

Without going over all the old issues, there is not much that convinces me that this club is going in the right direction and why? because we have no plan, no agenda. We cannot see where we are going.

There is no common 'goal' to bind us together. Why? Because nobody (Shebby apart) has tried to talk to us, involve us. John Williams was universally popular because of his open, transparent approach. In his place we have a wall of silence. Nobody to say why certain decisions were made and what their purpose was. Because of that silence, rumours start of sinister deeds that therefore gain credibilty and support.

That the Action Group can present a 400 page dossier to the EPL and the FA, supported by a host of local leaders and politicians, that is now under investigation only serves to suggest malpractice.

And still no-one says sorry for the mess we are in.

I remain positive though, that one day those individuals who are protecting their own interests will eventually leave and we will pick up the pieces.

thresholdweller wrote:

lowelife wrote:

Ianwhittam wrote: Honest to god...is it not blindingly obvious to anyone? The one thing that unites us all, is an unchanging attitude demanding that kean has to go! Lets not fall into the trap of listing names and organisations at the end of every posting, we all need to do whatever it takes to keep the focus on removing Kean and appointing a football manager instead. In all honesty, I know little enough about Shebby singh, I accept that the Venkys are naive, know little about football and been duped by others with financial self-interest. The facts are that the signings we have recently made are pretty good and genuinely seem to be aimed at a real promotion attempt. I do not credit Kean with any of these signings, they more likely stem from singh and others. Every time we bang on about Anderson, Venkys, kentaro et al, we take the focus off the one individual that should take the blame for what happens on the pitch.... I would still like to see the whole sorry bunch out of our club, but the one who should be called to account immediately, if not last year, is steve Kean; I tell you what, please respond to this post by telling me which past Rovers manager was so disrespected, mistrusted, and utterly loathed, more than our present excuse for a manager. I can't think of one, and every time he stands, like some dementing weeble, on Rovers pitch, he shows utter contempt for those serious supporters who also give to the club week in, week out whilst all he has done is take, take, take! We should all be roaring KEAN OUT every chance we get.

This is the finest rallying call I've seen on here for a long time. Bombard the Rovers board with Kean Out emails, take out newspapr adverts, chant it at all games, either inside or outside the ground. Stand outside kean's house and shout it! The message WILL get through, eventually.

To me it reads like a rant - a bit like John Lydon on question time. I may be right, I may be wrong, but I'm always certain. A lie down in a quiet room may help. PS I'm not happy with Steve Kean, but it is always easier to criticise than construct.

who deany wrote:

BlueSkies wrote:

RTID RKID wrote:
Givet needs to honour his contracted paycut, but get it back retrospectively as a promotion bonus if he helps us go back up at first attempt.

Hendry is a colossus capture. His presence will inspire the youth and his desire will instill a winning mentality. Look forward to seeing him back at Ewood. Future gaffer?

Future gaffer? You must be Paul Agnew!

your an absolute bellend mate disgrace to the club

lightamatch catcharabbit wrote:
I can't understand for one minute the attitude of some towards Colin Hendry. In my opinion, he is in the top three for our club in the last twenty-odd years along with Shearer and Tugay (sorry, four with Friedel). His management record isn't great by any stretch and I'm not sure about his coaching ability, but if all that he does is bring some grit and determination to the defence that tightens it up, then it's a worthwhile move. What happened outside of football, on the back of a terrible event, doesn't (or shouldn't) come in to it. I'm pretty sure he has to come to terms with it himself as the man that he is. And there are signs that improvements in the structure of the club are coming about (accepting the disgraceful way it was dismantled in the first place). 'Kean Out' is a given for me and I haven't renewed, so don't come back with any of the usual c**p. Having said that, does anyone know if there is a link or what the reason is that most of our signings happen to be Portuguese? Serious question.

wrigglers wrote:
All you fans that keep banging on with kean out venky's out are a joke and played just as much a role in the relegation as the players and manager did. (oh wait its kean/agnew is the comment to this one). Answer the following points

1. How is booing the team when they score helping the cause (game v swansea I think)
2. For the last 2/3 seasons the vast majority of fans were after salgado being dropped he was yet you complain.
3. If kean was sacked who would come in with fickle fans like glen mullin (who stated that the club would be in administration dec 2011 (still waiting for it too happen)
4. Most fans wanted rid of big sam (reap what you sow)
5. No one wants to but the club of venkys
6. If you dont want to renew your season tickets good dont keep ya money let the people who want to go and watch a game of football with a pint and a pie enjoy it without you lot being morons at the game it helps noone.

RTID RKID wrote:
Givet needs to honour his contracted paycut, but get it back retrospectively as a promotion bonus if he helps us go back up at first attempt.

Hendry is a colossus capture. His presence will inspire the youth and his desire will instill a winning mentality. Look forward to seeing him back at Ewood. Future gaffer?

RUinsane wrote:
Givet is by far our best centre half, to push him towards the door at this stage would be madness considering what options we have left. I really hope he stays

RUinsane wrote:
Givet is by far our best centre half, to push him towards the door at this stage would be madness considering what options we have left. I really hope he stays

wrigglers wrote:
All you fans that keep banging on with kean out venky's out are a joke and played just as much a role in the relegation as the players and manager did. (oh wait its kean/agnew is the comment to this one). Answer the following points 1. How is booing the team when they score helping the cause (game v swansea I think) 2. For the last 2/3 seasons the vast majority of fans were after salgado being dropped he was yet you complain. 3. If kean was sacked who would come in with fickle fans like glen mullin (who stated that the club would be in administration dec 2011 (still waiting for it too happen) 4. Most fans wanted rid of big sam (reap what you sow) 5. No one wants to but the club of venkys 6. If you dont want to renew your season tickets good dont keep ya money let the people who want to go and watch a game of football with a pint and a pie enjoy it without you lot being morons at the game it helps noone.