Clayton was my inspiration, says Blackburn Rovers advisor (From Lancashire Telegraph)
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Clayton was my inspiration, says Blackburn Rovers advisor
4:20pm Monday 25th June 2012 in Football
AS Shebby Singh slid Ronnie Clayton’s autobiography across the desk to cite it as his footballing inspiration, the immediate thought is of a painful attempt to ingratiate himself with an angry Blackburn public.
After all, who would really believe that a Malaysian 11-year-old would fall in love with football due to reading a book about a footballer he had never heard of before. And then end up running that club some 40 years later?
The phrase ‘oldest trick in the book’ springs to mind and I can already imagine the cynical response of hoardes of Rovers fans as they read these words.
It has to be pointed out then that ‘Shebby’ was on the record hailing Ewood Park legend Clayton as his inspiration in 2009 – long before Blackburn Rovers and Venky’s had ever crossed paths.
Proof then that the former Malaysian international and new ‘global advisor’ at Ewood Park isn’t just attempting to win favour and that Blackburn Rovers has in fact played a huge part in his life.
He said: “English football shaped my life, shaped my career, and for the last 15 years I think I have been most critical of English football because I think you should have won a World Cup already since the introduction of the Premier League.
“The autobiography about Ronnie Clayton: ‘A slave to soccer’ was my inspiration. I read this book when I was 11 years old. It left an impression on me, all I wanted to do for the rest of my life was to be a footballer. That is it.
“I think I have achieved a lot of what Ronnie achieved in this book.
“As an 11 year old reading a book that you thought was a story book and then realise it is a true story. This book is awesome. It is about being a professional footballer, the big games, the big crowds. Playing for the national team.
“This is simply wonderful and that was it from 11 years old I just wanted to play football.”
It may sound a romantic fairy tale to football outsiders but, for most Rovers supporters, it is what he can bring to the club that really matters.
Fans are already asking what credentials Singh has to be running a Premier League football club because, make no mistake, that is what he has been brought in to do.
After a detailed look at Singh’s life story the answer doesn’t exactly spring to mind either. Playing the game in and for Malaysia, while spending the last decade as a pundit for Asian TV, isn’t the normal route to take for football club supremos.
“I am a Malaysian, born in Malaysia and brought up in Malaysia,” said Singh. “I started my football career in Malaysia and I played for 18 years – from being an amateur, to semi professional, to professional. I have been through the mill.
“From 1982 to 1991 I played for my country. I have very, very fond memories and some very important people in English football helped to shape my career.
“One of my earliest coaches in 1983, playing for the national team, was Frank Lord. Winning the 1989 South East Asia gold medal with Trevor Hartley was brilliant as well. Trevor was in a class of his own.
“I also worked for a short spell with Keith Burkinshaw during a pre season break in 1991. Keith came to Malaysia at a request of the Sultan. I worked with him for two months.
“Trevor Brooking was once my team mate. I don’t know if he will remember but if you meet him remind him. It was at Kuala Lumpur in about 1986 or 1987. He guested for Kuala Lumpur.
“I very much enjoyed my time as a pundit. From day one as a footballer I was considered rebellious. I had my own thoughts and ideas about how we should play.
“I am a student of the game and am very, very passionate about football and like talking about it. I like innovative football and the way football has evolved has just been amazing.”
The now 51-year-old may be a new name for the majority of Rovers fans but he had been combining his media duties with working for Venky’s for the past 12 months as head of football development in Asia.
He said: “It is surreal now that I actually sit here and am going to run the club. This is really weird. For me it was wow, it was coming back full circle.
“Now one year on it gets weirder. It is like a story.
“In the last September when I visited Ewood I met Mrs Clayton and I had to tell her my story and when I told her my story she was in tears.
“It is just a pity. If things had happened one year earlier I would have met Ronnie himself.”
If Singh was not aware of the size of the challenge on his hands when he arrived in England last week, you can be assured he is now.
We are talking about a club divided. A club whose supporters have lost all faith in owners Venky’s and who are furious at their decision to stick with boss Steve Kean.
Singh’s appointment has understandably done little to ease the unrest and he is the first to admit it will be a ‘long battle’ to turn things around.
“The past is the past,” he said. “When I recall the past, the past is about that book. When you talk about the past you want to remember 1995 and the Premier League win.
“So when we talk about the past, we talk about the glory of the past rather than the antagonism of the past. Then there is a lot of unnecessary emotions wasted from all side and eventually it affects everyone. The club as a whole is the loser. I don’t want that.
“It is an absolute necessity we get back to the Premier League, it is the aim. I think we can not put undue pressure on ourselves though. Timelines would do that and raise the hope and expectations.
“There have to be expectations but silent expectations. You have to build a spirit, build a determination first, rather than start shouting from the rooftops because that can work against you.
“It is exhilarating for me personally. I know when I was given the job and my friends in Singapore and Malaysia said ‘are you mad?’ I replied ‘I have always been mad’.
“It is a challenge. Fully explore yourself. No one said life was easy. I never shirk a challenge and it is not to prove anything to anyone. It exploring what I can do.
“I will call a spade a spade. I don’t know if I am honestly brutal or brutally honest but that is the way I have always been."
Comments(95)
jad_hamizan
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4:28pm Mon 25 Jun 12
Angrlus
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4:29pm Mon 25 Jun 12
ions... I wonder if the posters from the previous article who jumped to conclusions, retract their comments and apologise?
Shebby, you talk a good talk.. you better walk a good walk too and fire Keano if he doesn't deliver this season or no amount of Clayton aspirations will save your reputation at Ewood - and that's from the fans who ARE attending.
bring back the good old days
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4:32pm Mon 25 Jun 12
He certainly likes to tell a tale, and I have met hundreds like this in my lifetime. I've done this, I've done that, I've done the other.
Randy_Synge
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4:33pm Mon 25 Jun 12
Bulls******s the lot of them. Bloody Parasites.
VENKY'S OUT
KEAN OUT
SINGH OUT
ANDERSON OUT
IrishRover2
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4:36pm Mon 25 Jun 12
Angrlus wrote:Exactly, he is not just being watched by the rovers fans but all fans everywhere, if it goes peared shaped publically this time, he'll never work again for any respectable outfit, just like kean is going to get his come uppins soon, time is running short baldy and your short comings will come to a point where all rovers fans hope the owners will see sense or corruption is uncovered....!
assumptions..assumpt
ions... I wonder if the posters from the previous article who jumped to conclusions, retract their comments and apologise?
Shebby, you talk a good talk.. you better walk a good walk too and fire Keano if he doesn't deliver this season or no amount of Clayton aspirations will save your reputation at Ewood - and that's from the fans who ARE attending.
madari
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4:39pm Mon 25 Jun 12
I have read some tales in my life but this load of bull... !!takes the biscuit.
Another day another load of bull...!!
Is this pantomime ever going to end??
sonny
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4:40pm Mon 25 Jun 12
Only1Garner
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4:44pm Mon 25 Jun 12
garyintandem
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4:49pm Mon 25 Jun 12
Cohn, bring on the tractor boys!
DanBlackburn
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4:51pm Mon 25 Jun 12
nt.co.uk/sport/footb
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At least its not just us that see how ridiculous our club has become. You really couldn't script this could you.
IrishRover2
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4:52pm Mon 25 Jun 12
Bicky1
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4:53pm Mon 25 Jun 12
Me and 8 family members have just been to get a full refund on our season tickets after hearing that Steve Kean is still running the club and i believe the ticket office has been inundated with people requesting refunds.
i will gladly pay double if he is sacked but we all know Shebby thats out of your control, you are just another YES man **** licker!!!
mstanden
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5:02pm Mon 25 Jun 12
They have to realise that for better or for worse the cookie has already crumbled for SK even if the blame is far from all his alone and he just needs an honourable way out, but he can't stay as Manager! Sorry!
1rover
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5:12pm Mon 25 Jun 12
buzzinfly
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5:14pm Mon 25 Jun 12
'I worked with Keith Burkinshaw for two months, I was Trevor Brookings team mate' Why haven't Man Utd, Man City or Chelsea snapped you up. I just can't believe you've gone undected for so long, they must be really disappointed they've missed out.
Zareen Ahmadzai the Taliban Bomber is probably looking for a new job now he's been told he can say in our Country. Why not offer him a role in the Club.He could promote our Club to the Taliban! There must be hidden talent there!!!
Quote: 'I will call a spade a spade' so will I. Your A SPADE !!!!!
Its just frightening how these people now control BRFC.
Venkys OUT
Kean OUT
Shebby OUT
Muppets the lot of them, Vagabonds and thieves.
Singh when your Shebby!!!!!
hasslem hasslem
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5:16pm Mon 25 Jun 12
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the past is the premiership, the past is numerous play-offs under don mackay and bobby saxton, the past is micky speight breaking the net with thunderbolts, the past is getting "coined" at maine road, the past is getting chased round stanley park by idiotic toffees, the past is bristol rovers at eastgate - last game of the season, the past is getting relegated under iley/pickering, the past is losing loads of managers sparky, souness, smith, lee, furphy, the past is plymouth at home and shrewsbury away. the past is tony field and roger jones, the past is turf moor on boxing day 1977.
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i can't go back much before 1972 - but i know about the past. never saw clayton or douglas play - but i did go to that testimonial game england XI versus a city/liverpool XI.....but i can't help but feel that this sob story is a cheap attempt to tug on the heartstrings of gullible rovers supporters by bringing ronnie clayton's name into it...here's a challenge mr singh - get bryan douglas to comment on your snake-oil salesman blarney and if he thinks your the genuine article then i will eat my hat.
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i know that we have complained about no communication for months and now this guy is shouting from the highest steeple. trouble is empty vessels make the loudest noise.
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he is going to cal a spade a spade is he??? well didn't the spades that were written/expressed by williams, finn, hunt lead to their dismissal. it seems to me that the only way to keep your job for any length of time is to call a spade a positive set of results which shows that we are moving in the right direction and no way will we go down.
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didn't the LT's very own andy cryer get lamabasted by our "brilliant manager" for calling a spade a spade and not indulging lord haw haw in his relentless attempts to mimic mr micawber.
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if shebby is so keen to get into the psyche of blackburn rovers he needs to sit down and talk to the staff at ewood (NOT THE PLAYERS) and ask them without fear of being fired about the last 20 months and how they think they have been treated, he needs to speak to supporters (and to be honest i don't care if its the fans forum, brag, brist etc etc) but more importantly he needs to listen and then do something about it. He must not do an all in the garden is rosy communication back to his paymasters - he must be honest......honesty is a virtue which has been sadly lacking in the last 20 months at ewood from our owners, our manager and some of our players. do that and make some decent actions and maybe then we might start believing you.....but you have a lot of work to do mr singh to establish the merest scintilla of credibility.
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like virtually everyone, except the incredibly naive, i despair and deplore everything about blackburn rovers at the moment. we are adrift...we have become a ghost club.
buzzinfly
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5:25pm Mon 25 Jun 12
IrishRover2 wrote:Fully agree. It just proves that he's s snake like everyone else in the Club.
See when an individual slates someone and then thinks the sun shines out of his a*se, that persons integrity in my eyes has gone, how could you trust that person after that, so it is with big balls, slating kean and then thinking that giving him a clean slate is the admirable way to go, bet shebby didn't get that out of claytons book. Disgrace, absolute moron!
SuperAtko 13
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5:30pm Mon 25 Jun 12
So in other words Trevor Brooking once played in a Mickey Mouse charity match in Kuala Lumpur that our Shabby also happened to be playing in! Hardly the kind of credentials that warrant being handed the top job at a professional football club. I once played in a charity five-a-side tournament with Alan Kennedy (who was well into his 40s at that point) so I guess I should put myself forwards for the role of chairman then. Why do we need a global adviser anyway? We are playing in the Championship next season, not the Champions League, so no-one outside of East Lancashire will give a monkey's about us anyway...
Charwalla
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5:38pm Mon 25 Jun 12
I'm sorry to say that his credentials as club executive are far from those that are required to run a premier league football club.
If he is qualified then, Richard Keys and Andy Gray will walk straight into the top managerial roles at Man United or Chelsea.
"We're doomed Captain Mainwairing!!!!!!!!"
A Darener
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5:51pm Mon 25 Jun 12
The first honest thing any of them have said since the Venkys bought the club.
juanbbien
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5:54pm Mon 25 Jun 12
halfhearted
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5:56pm Mon 25 Jun 12
Angrlus
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5:57pm Mon 25 Jun 12
.vitalfootball.co.uk
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interesting article on Murphy..
Randy_Synge
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6:06pm Mon 25 Jun 12
halfhearted wrote:Dead right. Ronnie truly loved the club. He wasn't out to fleece it.
This man has no right to taint the memory of Ronnie Clayton. He was everything this man is not or will ever be.
egbutnobacon
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6:07pm Mon 25 Jun 12
Oh for Christs sake, why don't they all just bugger off?
I do hope that we the fans get the chance of owning the club again.
Randy_Synge
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6:19pm Mon 25 Jun 12
A Darener
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6:21pm Mon 25 Jun 12
Shebby's a joke
Venky's a joke
How many jokes do you need.
Randy_Synge
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6:23pm Mon 25 Jun 12
A Darener wrote:Preferably jokes that make me laugh rather than wanting to slit my wrists.
Kean's a joke
Shebby's a joke
Venky's a joke
How many jokes do you need.
Rovers75
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6:39pm Mon 25 Jun 12
The very fact that this germ dares mention the legend that is Ronnie Clayton in this latest desperate attempt to win the fans over is diabolical.
You've gotta give it those Venkys, they are consistent if nothing else. Well apart from sacking managers.
God help us all. What the hell has happened to our club?
LanghoRover
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6:45pm Mon 25 Jun 12
A Darener
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6:47pm Mon 25 Jun 12
RUinsane
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6:54pm Mon 25 Jun 12
This is sascha baron cohens latest wind up movie. Just wait til he introduces his nephew, the best left wing back since Gary Lineker. He says he is that good, he makes Gordon Banks look like a goalkeeper . He's like a mix of bobby charlton and Paul gascoigne. He's bald and gets p1ssed all the time, hang on? isn't that steve Kean???
mONdeTH
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7:08pm Mon 25 Jun 12
dangerous dave
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7:11pm Mon 25 Jun 12
OUT WITH KEAN VENKYS SINGH AND THE REST OF THE LYING TOADS!!!
Accy Phil
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7:23pm Mon 25 Jun 12
Gaz M
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7:29pm Mon 25 Jun 12
doleboytrotter wrote:100% agree and why does the Telegraph publish such blatant buls**t for fecks sake get to the nitty gritty stories we want to hear,how much transfer budget are we going to get,which of our current playing staff want away,how long is Kean going to get before he,s given the boot 10,20 30 games come on Telegraph less of the non story page filling bull and more of the direct questions and answers that the fans want . GROW SOME BALLS!!
Utter utter bull sh*t. What a patronising f*cker he is to assume that people are daft enough to believe a word of it.
Kean out
Venky's out
Singh out
Agnew out
Anderson out
Anderson's kid out
SEM out
Kentaro out
Orr out
Murphy out
craftandgraft
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7:35pm Mon 25 Jun 12
I advise Mr Shebby Singh to focus on something that perhaps could enlighten BRFC fans.
How are the legal actions being taken by Sam Allardyce and Ryan Nelsen against BRFC progressing?
How much does Mr Singh think this will cost the club?
How much will it cost the club for Steve Kean's personal defence against the action being taken against him by Sam Allardyce?
What does Mr Singh intend to do about the outrageous running of Ewood on matchdays; and will he be willing to openly 'advise' the fans on his views of how he sees the management of the club?
KEAN OUT
KENTARO OUT
VENKYS OUT
SINGH OUT
Arte et Labore
ps. I imagine that when Shebby watched Only Fools and Horses; that was also a great inspiration.WIDEBOY.
givet82
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7:37pm Mon 25 Jun 12
awh
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7:44pm Mon 25 Jun 12
“In the last September when I visited Ewood I met Mrs Clayton and I had to tell her my story and when I told her my story she was in tears."
Beyond even doubting the veracity of this claim, it's really f*cking galling how he tries to use Mrs Clayton allegedly crying at his story as a chance to legitimise himself with Rovers fan base.
Don't even try to patronise Rovers fans, Shebby.
silverstan
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7:58pm Mon 25 Jun 12
craftandgraft wrote:Big chief talking **** !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shebby's worked for Venkys for 12 months Givet.......only not in the UK.
Is that pathetic?
Whilst we're at id maybe Shebby Singh could advise us if Messrs Kean, Agnew and Anderson are at all alarmed by the news that the takeover of Rangers is now being investigated by the Police and the High Court of Scotland.
Conspiracy theories......my *rse.
KEAN OUT
KENTARO OUT
AGNEW OUT
VENKYS OUT
SINGH OUT
Arte et Labore
BOYCOTT THE B*STARDS OUT
silverstan
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7:58pm Mon 25 Jun 12
craftandgraft wrote:Big chief talking **** !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shebby's worked for Venkys for 12 months Givet.......only not in the UK.
Is that pathetic?
Whilst we're at id maybe Shebby Singh could advise us if Messrs Kean, Agnew and Anderson are at all alarmed by the news that the takeover of Rangers is now being investigated by the Police and the High Court of Scotland.
Conspiracy theories......my *rse.
KEAN OUT
KENTARO OUT
AGNEW OUT
VENKYS OUT
SINGH OUT
Arte et Labore
BOYCOTT THE B*STARDS OUT
silverstan
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7:58pm Mon 25 Jun 12
craftandgraft wrote:Big chief talking **** !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shebby's worked for Venkys for 12 months Givet.......only not in the UK.
Is that pathetic?
Whilst we're at id maybe Shebby Singh could advise us if Messrs Kean, Agnew and Anderson are at all alarmed by the news that the takeover of Rangers is now being investigated by the Police and the High Court of Scotland.
Conspiracy theories......my *rse.
KEAN OUT
KENTARO OUT
AGNEW OUT
VENKYS OUT
SINGH OUT
Arte et Labore
BOYCOTT THE B*STARDS OUT
silverstan
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7:58pm Mon 25 Jun 12
craftandgraft wrote:Big chief talking **** !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shebby's worked for Venkys for 12 months Givet.......only not in the UK.
Is that pathetic?
Whilst we're at id maybe Shebby Singh could advise us if Messrs Kean, Agnew and Anderson are at all alarmed by the news that the takeover of Rangers is now being investigated by the Police and the High Court of Scotland.
Conspiracy theories......my *rse.
KEAN OUT
KENTARO OUT
AGNEW OUT
VENKYS OUT
SINGH OUT
Arte et Labore
BOYCOTT THE B*STARDS OUT
UKdarran
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7:59pm Mon 25 Jun 12
givet82 wrote:The trust, my friend, between the fans and the owners has been so badly damaged - some would argue irreparably - that anybody they employ for the club from now on will be treated with suspicion by the supporters - and rightly so after their tenure so far...unless, of course, it's a new manager ;-)
nobody on here knows shabby so give it a rest for god sake, he may sack kean sooner than you think so behave and stop whinging.Out with singh out with murphy you lot are pathetic, i suppose they are in the conspiricy theories.THERE JUST DOING A JOB LIKE SOME OF YOU DO, i hate venky's and kean for what's happened to rover's but everyone who comes to try and help arn't to blame aswel
onlyonesimongarner
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8:04pm Mon 25 Jun 12
This guy is disgusting, using a Rovers Legend who has only just passed, to try and curry favour. If he knew anything of the man that Ronnie was, he would know how much he loved his club and how much he would have hated what his employers are doing to it
Would love to hear Dougies opinion on this!!!!
alfa111
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8:13pm Mon 25 Jun 12
flyingv1
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8:15pm Mon 25 Jun 12
awh wrote:If you read the article, Singh was quoted as saying Ronnie Clayton was his inspiration, back in 2009.
For me, this is the most distasteful part of the entire article: “In the last September when I visited Ewood I met Mrs Clayton and I had to tell her my story and when I told her my story she was in tears." Beyond even doubting the veracity of this claim, it's really f*cking galling how he tries to use Mrs Clayton allegedly crying at his story as a chance to legitimise himself with Rovers fan base. Don't even try to patronise Rovers fans, Shebby.
My own opinion, subject to abuse from those who disagree, is to give him a chance.
At last, some form of communication is coming from the club, which is at least a start. Whether it will continue remains to be seen, however it is one step in the right direction.
oldblue
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8:20pm Mon 25 Jun 12
Arthur Labore
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8:20pm Mon 25 Jun 12
Rover Pete
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8:20pm Mon 25 Jun 12
He is the ideal man for Vnky's.
Completely delusional and out of touch with reality. He and agent Kean are a fine pair.
wilyrover
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8:28pm Mon 25 Jun 12
Rovers75
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8:30pm Mon 25 Jun 12
givet82 wrote:Its hardly surprising Givet is it given their record? They go from one catastrophe to another. Do you honestly think that unless we gain promotion at the first attempt and re-establish ourselves in the Premier League that anyone is ever going to even warm to them, let alone support them. This isn't about conspiracy theories, it's about fact and the facts are there for all to see. They bought into a football club that was run like a well oiled swiss watch and systematically destroyed it by a multitude of abysmal decisions which has ended in relegation. Unfortunately for them they seem to have made another monumental ****-up in appointing Singh, who has clearly impressed them by talking the talk, exactly as Kean did and still does. What Venkys clearly fail to recognise is that we as fans of football and more importantly Rovers, see right through the utter bull5hit. In my opinion Singh has just replaced Kean as head bul5hitter. If they need people to come and 'help' them then we really are in a very sorry state. They need to help themselves and sack Kean and replace him with a proper manager.
nobody on here knows shabby so give it a rest for god sake, he may sack kean sooner than you think so behave and stop whinging.Out with singh out with murphy you lot are pathetic, i suppose they are in the conspiricy theories.THERE JUST DOING A JOB LIKE SOME OF YOU DO, i hate venky's and kean for what's happened to rover's but everyone who comes to try and help arn't to blame aswel
Bombay Duck Club
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8:33pm Mon 25 Jun 12
All this posturing about life's inspiration figures makes one wonder who Steve Kean's life inspiration was? I am really lost for an answer to that one!
P888HOW
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8:34pm Mon 25 Jun 12
Gaz M wrote:Gaz m, i like your post i agree page filling bullsh*t Ask the questions we are all wanting the answers to. andy cryer you know fully well what those questions are .you are being seen as very weak
doleboytrotter wrote:100% agree and why does the Telegraph publish such blatant buls**t for fecks sake get to the nitty gritty stories we want to hear,how much transfer budget are we going to get,which of our current playing staff want away,how long is Kean going to get before he,s given the boot 10,20 30 games come on Telegraph less of the non story page filling bull and more of the direct questions and answers that the fans want . GROW SOME BALLS!!
Utter utter bull sh*t. What a patronising f*cker he is to assume that people are daft enough to believe a word of it.
Kean out
Venky's out
Singh out
Agnew out
Anderson out
Anderson's kid out
SEM out
Kentaro out
Orr out
Murphy out
Shane
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8:51pm Mon 25 Jun 12
Good stuff Agnew best laugh I've had for a bit. Good bit of spin. Keep up the good work you're all doing very well
Lancs - pensioner
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8:56pm Mon 25 Jun 12
juanbbien
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9:02pm Mon 25 Jun 12
French Rover
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9:03pm Mon 25 Jun 12
If his words are genuine (and we will take an awful lot of convincing based on previous words from Venkys staff) then we can expect some changes this season in the way the club interacts/communicat
es with the fans.
Will it be what we all asked for - proper communication about what is happening with our club - or will it just be words and more words without sense or meaning. Early days folks.
Our Shebby needs to do a lot of work to get anyone onside....but as we constantly tell our owners just one action now will make for one big step in the right direction - get Kean out. Now.
awh
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9:05pm Mon 25 Jun 12
flyingv1 wrote:I did read the article, and that is NOT the point of my contention.
awh wrote:If you read the article, Singh was quoted as saying Ronnie Clayton was his inspiration, back in 2009.
For me, this is the most distasteful part of the entire article: “In the last September when I visited Ewood I met Mrs Clayton and I had to tell her my story and when I told her my story she was in tears." Beyond even doubting the veracity of this claim, it's really f*cking galling how he tries to use Mrs Clayton allegedly crying at his story as a chance to legitimise himself with Rovers fan base. Don't even try to patronise Rovers fans, Shebby.
My own opinion, subject to abuse from those who disagree, is to give him a chance.
At last, some form of communication is coming from the club, which is at least a start. Whether it will continue remains to be seen, however it is one step in the right direction.
I'm not addressing whether he was inspired by Clayton, or when, but rather that the statement I quoted was a poor choice in order to ingratiate himself to Rovers fans.
I agree with you that I am willing to also give him a chance, but Venky's reign has been marred by this sort of thing: False modesty masking unbelievable hubris.
It's going to take a hell of a long time to repair a lot of hurt and damage.
They had the chance to repair most of this by making a SINGLE mission statement in the sacking of Kean. Instead they ignored a mountain of compelling evidence and stone-walled every fan who begged them for change.
Their dithering and colossal incompetence has driven our trust in them so far into deficit that it's going to take Mr. Singh and co a sea change in policy to win back a fan base who've been repeatedly kicked in the teeth.
I do wish him luck, however. I don't envy him; he has a mountain to climb.
flyingv1
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9:30pm Mon 25 Jun 12
awh wrote:Sorry mate, did not wish to offend in any way. Yes the club is in a mess, and there are a lot of negative people, not aimed at you!!, commenting with the same "old rubbish" we have heard before - this out, that out, anybody out, liar here, liar there, liar everywhere.
flyingv1 wrote:I did read the article, and that is NOT the point of my contention. I'm not addressing whether he was inspired by Clayton, or when, but rather that the statement I quoted was a poor choice in order to ingratiate himself to Rovers fans. I agree with you that I am willing to also give him a chance, but Venky's reign has been marred by this sort of thing: False modesty masking unbelievable hubris. It's going to take a hell of a long time to repair a lot of hurt and damage. They had the chance to repair most of this by making a SINGLE mission statement in the sacking of Kean. Instead they ignored a mountain of compelling evidence and stone-walled every fan who begged them for change. Their dithering and colossal incompetence has driven our trust in them so far into deficit that it's going to take Mr. Singh and co a sea change in policy to win back a fan base who've been repeatedly kicked in the teeth. I do wish him luck, however. I don't envy him; he has a mountain to climb.awh wrote: For me, this is the most distasteful part of the entire article: “In the last September when I visited Ewood I met Mrs Clayton and I had to tell her my story and when I told her my story she was in tears." Beyond even doubting the veracity of this claim, it's really f*cking galling how he tries to use Mrs Clayton allegedly crying at his story as a chance to legitimise himself with Rovers fan base. Don't even try to patronise Rovers fans, Shebby.If you read the article, Singh was quoted as saying Ronnie Clayton was his inspiration, back in 2009. My own opinion, subject to abuse from those who disagree, is to give him a chance. At last, some form of communication is coming from the club, which is at least a start. Whether it will continue remains to be seen, however it is one step in the right direction.
They are naturally entitiled to their opinions, however, you get fed up sorting out the structured posts, and my point was not to have a go at you, but the others, who know who they are.
Singh has a massive task, and as the saying goes, it would appear "he can talk for England" or should that be Mayasia? but at least we are receiving communication. Anything Kean said was treated with contempt, and the LT were simply wasting their time publishing the article.
Regards.
Love Rovers Hate Venky's
says...
9:35pm Mon 25 Jun 12
flyingv1 wrote:Kean OUT! Venky's OUT! Borat OUT! Anderson OUT! Agnew OUT! Orr OUT! Murphy OUT! Censorship OUT! LT OUT!
awh wrote:Sorry mate, did not wish to offend in any way. Yes the club is in a mess, and there are a lot of negative people, not aimed at you!!, commenting with the same "old rubbish" we have heard before - this out, that out, anybody out, liar here, liar there, liar everywhere.
flyingv1 wrote:I did read the article, and that is NOT the point of my contention. I'm not addressing whether he was inspired by Clayton, or when, but rather that the statement I quoted was a poor choice in order to ingratiate himself to Rovers fans. I agree with you that I am willing to also give him a chance, but Venky's reign has been marred by this sort of thing: False modesty masking unbelievable hubris. It's going to take a hell of a long time to repair a lot of hurt and damage. They had the chance to repair most of this by making a SINGLE mission statement in the sacking of Kean. Instead they ignored a mountain of compelling evidence and stone-walled every fan who begged them for change. Their dithering and colossal incompetence has driven our trust in them so far into deficit that it's going to take Mr. Singh and co a sea change in policy to win back a fan base who've been repeatedly kicked in the teeth. I do wish him luck, however. I don't envy him; he has a mountain to climb.awh wrote: For me, this is the most distasteful part of the entire article: “In the last September when I visited Ewood I met Mrs Clayton and I had to tell her my story and when I told her my story she was in tears." Beyond even doubting the veracity of this claim, it's really f*cking galling how he tries to use Mrs Clayton allegedly crying at his story as a chance to legitimise himself with Rovers fan base. Don't even try to patronise Rovers fans, Shebby.If you read the article, Singh was quoted as saying Ronnie Clayton was his inspiration, back in 2009. My own opinion, subject to abuse from those who disagree, is to give him a chance. At last, some form of communication is coming from the club, which is at least a start. Whether it will continue remains to be seen, however it is one step in the right direction.
They are naturally entitiled to their opinions, however, you get fed up sorting out the structured posts, and my point was not to have a go at you, but the others, who know who they are.
Singh has a massive task, and as the saying goes, it would appear "he can talk for England" or should that be Mayasia? but at least we are receiving communication. Anything Kean said was treated with contempt, and the LT were simply wasting their time publishing the article.
Regards.
awh
says...
9:48pm Mon 25 Jun 12
flyingv1 wrote:No offence taken, whatsoever :)
awh wrote:Sorry mate, did not wish to offend in any way. Yes the club is in a mess, and there are a lot of negative people, not aimed at you!!, commenting with the same "old rubbish" we have heard before - this out, that out, anybody out, liar here, liar there, liar everywhere.
flyingv1 wrote:I did read the article, and that is NOT the point of my contention. I'm not addressing whether he was inspired by Clayton, or when, but rather that the statement I quoted was a poor choice in order to ingratiate himself to Rovers fans. I agree with you that I am willing to also give him a chance, but Venky's reign has been marred by this sort of thing: False modesty masking unbelievable hubris. It's going to take a hell of a long time to repair a lot of hurt and damage. They had the chance to repair most of this by making a SINGLE mission statement in the sacking of Kean. Instead they ignored a mountain of compelling evidence and stone-walled every fan who begged them for change. Their dithering and colossal incompetence has driven our trust in them so far into deficit that it's going to take Mr. Singh and co a sea change in policy to win back a fan base who've been repeatedly kicked in the teeth. I do wish him luck, however. I don't envy him; he has a mountain to climb.awh wrote: For me, this is the most distasteful part of the entire article: “In the last September when I visited Ewood I met Mrs Clayton and I had to tell her my story and when I told her my story she was in tears." Beyond even doubting the veracity of this claim, it's really f*cking galling how he tries to use Mrs Clayton allegedly crying at his story as a chance to legitimise himself with Rovers fan base. Don't even try to patronise Rovers fans, Shebby.If you read the article, Singh was quoted as saying Ronnie Clayton was his inspiration, back in 2009. My own opinion, subject to abuse from those who disagree, is to give him a chance. At last, some form of communication is coming from the club, which is at least a start. Whether it will continue remains to be seen, however it is one step in the right direction.
They are naturally entitiled to their opinions, however, you get fed up sorting out the structured posts, and my point was not to have a go at you, but the others, who know who they are.
Singh has a massive task, and as the saying goes, it would appear "he can talk for England" or should that be Mayasia? but at least we are receiving communication. Anything Kean said was treated with contempt, and the LT were simply wasting their time publishing the article.
Regards.
We're all pulling for the same thing. We just want our family club back and for this horrid nightmare to be over.
flyingv1
says...
10:40pm Mon 25 Jun 12
Love Rovers Hate Venky's wrote:Expected - grow up
flyingv1 wrote:Kean OUT! Venky's OUT! Borat OUT! Anderson OUT! Agnew OUT! Orr OUT! Murphy OUT! Censorship OUT! LT OUT!awh wrote:Sorry mate, did not wish to offend in any way. Yes the club is in a mess, and there are a lot of negative people, not aimed at you!!, commenting with the same "old rubbish" we have heard before - this out, that out, anybody out, liar here, liar there, liar everywhere. They are naturally entitiled to their opinions, however, you get fed up sorting out the structured posts, and my point was not to have a go at you, but the others, who know who they are. Singh has a massive task, and as the saying goes, it would appear "he can talk for England" or should that be Mayasia? but at least we are receiving communication. Anything Kean said was treated with contempt, and the LT were simply wasting their time publishing the article. Regards.flyingv1 wrote:I did read the article, and that is NOT the point of my contention. I'm not addressing whether he was inspired by Clayton, or when, but rather that the statement I quoted was a poor choice in order to ingratiate himself to Rovers fans. I agree with you that I am willing to also give him a chance, but Venky's reign has been marred by this sort of thing: False modesty masking unbelievable hubris. It's going to take a hell of a long time to repair a lot of hurt and damage. They had the chance to repair most of this by making a SINGLE mission statement in the sacking of Kean. Instead they ignored a mountain of compelling evidence and stone-walled every fan who begged them for change. Their dithering and colossal incompetence has driven our trust in them so far into deficit that it's going to take Mr. Singh and co a sea change in policy to win back a fan base who've been repeatedly kicked in the teeth. I do wish him luck, however. I don't envy him; he has a mountain to climb.awh wrote: For me, this is the most distasteful part of the entire article: “In the last September when I visited Ewood I met Mrs Clayton and I had to tell her my story and when I told her my story she was in tears." Beyond even doubting the veracity of this claim, it's really f*cking galling how he tries to use Mrs Clayton allegedly crying at his story as a chance to legitimise himself with Rovers fan base. Don't even try to patronise Rovers fans, Shebby.If you read the article, Singh was quoted as saying Ronnie Clayton was his inspiration, back in 2009. My own opinion, subject to abuse from those who disagree, is to give him a chance. At last, some form of communication is coming from the club, which is at least a start. Whether it will continue remains to be seen, however it is one step in the right direction.
Angrlus
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11:27pm Mon 25 Jun 12
doleboytrotter wrote:Wilfred Zaha in Venkys line of sight..W
Kean out
Venky's out
Bilaji Rao out
Venkatesh Rao out
Anuradha Desai out
Anderson out
Anderson's kid out
Agnew out
Singh out
SEM out
Kentaro out
Orr out
Murphy out
Hendry out
Cryer out
All who agree with above out. Buy a season ticket and you are complicit, buy a f*cking hot dog and you are propping them up. Hit them in the pocket and force their hand, they will have to sell in order to not lose money.
Oppose what your enemies support (Kean) and support what your enemies oppose (Dissenting alternative opinion).
Angrlus
says...
11:32pm Mon 25 Jun 12
you can call me and every other renewer complicit, I call you fairweather.
sticks and stones. doesn't alter the fact that theres only one way to be rid of Kean, let him sink himself.
Love Rovers Hate Venky's
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11:36pm Mon 25 Jun 12
Angrlus
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11:41pm Mon 25 Jun 12
come on Andy do spill, its nearly Tuesday already!
Angrlus
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11:58pm Mon 25 Jun 12
of course this is all speculation still.
Judge Nic Sanders
says...
12:06am Tue 26 Jun 12
globetrot
says...
1:21am Tue 26 Jun 12
Bangkok Rover
says...
5:58am Tue 26 Jun 12
The spirit within the club would change overnight.
bburnrover
says...
8:51am Tue 26 Jun 12
gleechy
says...
9:26am Tue 26 Jun 12
Angrlus wrote:Think you need to clean your glasses.
assumptions..assumpt
ions... I wonder if the posters from the previous article who jumped to conclusions, retract their comments and apologise?
Shebby, you talk a good talk.. you better walk a good walk too and fire Keano if he doesn't deliver this season or no amount of Clayton aspirations will save your reputation at Ewood - and that's from the fans who ARE attending.
bburnrover
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9:28am Tue 26 Jun 12
Soccerover
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9:48am Tue 26 Jun 12
Shabby - you simply don't have the qualifications for this job just like your NEW FOUND CHUM Stevie Wonder (why Anuradha loves me so much....thinks....ve
ry slowly ... must be my after shave since it can't be for my soccer management skills) - your little mate Shabby is just like you 'A BOY ON A MAN'S ERRAND'.
So why don't you do us all a favour and cluck off back to K.L. and take your new found chum with you....I suggest you drop Stevie off at Venky's Hatcheries...he can get a job in the sheds picking up the eggs - he'd enjoy it - probably think they were Championship points.
Shabby - you might as well go now because you guys will NEVER EVER be accepted by the fans.
The scales have long since fallen from our eyes.
It's all over Blue Rover.
DanBlackburn
says...
9:55am Tue 26 Jun 12
Wrote to Singh yesterday, a considered and polite letter explaining that many of us will not be back until he sacks Kean. Asking him why he is still there and why he has changed his own mind on the toad's abilities. Do not expect a reply but if I do I shall let you know.
makaveli96
says...
10:03am Tue 26 Jun 12
Mmmm, so you wernt born in the town, dont live in the town, didnt bury your grandad in the town, and didnt have 27 pints in the Queens Park WMC in 1993?
Apart from that Shebbys Mr Blackburn........
What next, Martin McGuiness shaking hands with the Queen?
lowelife
says...
10:24am Tue 26 Jun 12
garyintandem wrote:I would be willing to give him a chance if his first heroic act was to terminate Kean's employment. Alas,he doesn't have the authority to do that. Like all the senior management at BRFC he reports to Kean. The deluded one calls all the shots.
let's give this guy a chance. At least we've now got someone with responsibility and I suspect he'll have the authority to sack Kean if things carry on as last season. Cohn, bring on the tractor boys!
jaysay
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10:29am Tue 26 Jun 12
hasslem hasslem wrote:What a great post, I did see Ronnie and Brian play I was at West Ham on boxing day 1963 for our 8-2 win and at home a few days later for our 3-1 defeat by the same time. The train journeys back from London with the players, the 3-3 draw in the cup at Turd Moor after going 3-0 down then winning the reply 2-0 aet, that was the past not last seasons garbage, not Keans weasel words, or indians speaking with fork tongues. If this guy had any conviction about doing the job the first thing he should have done was sack Kean, because that's the only way forward
the past is the past...what is all this tosh.
.
the past is the premiership, the past is numerous play-offs under don mackay and bobby saxton, the past is micky speight breaking the net with thunderbolts, the past is getting "coined" at maine road, the past is getting chased round stanley park by idiotic toffees, the past is bristol rovers at eastgate - last game of the season, the past is getting relegated under iley/pickering, the past is losing loads of managers sparky, souness, smith, lee, furphy, the past is plymouth at home and shrewsbury away. the past is tony field and roger jones, the past is turf moor on boxing day 1977.
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i can't go back much before 1972 - but i know about the past. never saw clayton or douglas play - but i did go to that testimonial game england XI versus a city/liverpool XI.....but i can't help but feel that this sob story is a cheap attempt to tug on the heartstrings of gullible rovers supporters by bringing ronnie clayton's name into it...here's a challenge mr singh - get bryan douglas to comment on your snake-oil salesman blarney and if he thinks your the genuine article then i will eat my hat.
.
i know that we have complained about no communication for months and now this guy is shouting from the highest steeple. trouble is empty vessels make the loudest noise.
.
he is going to cal a spade a spade is he??? well didn't the spades that were written/expressed by williams, finn, hunt lead to their dismissal. it seems to me that the only way to keep your job for any length of time is to call a spade a positive set of results which shows that we are moving in the right direction and no way will we go down.
.
didn't the LT's very own andy cryer get lamabasted by our "brilliant manager" for calling a spade a spade and not indulging lord haw haw in his relentless attempts to mimic mr micawber.
.
if shebby is so keen to get into the psyche of blackburn rovers he needs to sit down and talk to the staff at ewood (NOT THE PLAYERS) and ask them without fear of being fired about the last 20 months and how they think they have been treated, he needs to speak to supporters (and to be honest i don't care if its the fans forum, brag, brist etc etc) but more importantly he needs to listen and then do something about it. He must not do an all in the garden is rosy communication back to his paymasters - he must be honest......honesty is a virtue which has been sadly lacking in the last 20 months at ewood from our owners, our manager and some of our players. do that and make some decent actions and maybe then we might start believing you.....but you have a lot of work to do mr singh to establish the merest scintilla of credibility.
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like virtually everyone, except the incredibly naive, i despair and deplore everything about blackburn rovers at the moment. we are adrift...we have become a ghost club.
YarkshahRover
says...
10:45am Tue 26 Jun 12
Angrlus
says...
10:57am Tue 26 Jun 12
gleechy wrote:you're late for school.
Angrlus wrote:Think you need to clean your glasses.
assumptions..assumpt
ions... I wonder if the posters from the previous article who jumped to conclusions, retract their comments and apologise?
Shebby, you talk a good talk.. you better walk a good walk too and fire Keano if he doesn't deliver this season or no amount of Clayton aspirations will save your reputation at Ewood - and that's from the fans who ARE attending.
benal13
says...
11:14am Tue 26 Jun 12
Bazzer
says...
11:31am Tue 26 Jun 12
He just knows his story cannot ever be disproved, but he takes us for fools. Slots in quite nicely at Ewood.
MxMave
says...
1:25pm Tue 26 Jun 12
Second statement: "I will call a spade a spade."
You'll call a spade a spade unless enough time elapses that the spade is no longer a spade?
noddymcleod
says...
1:45pm Tue 26 Jun 12
Will he be commuting ? Once a week ? Once a month ?
I'm sure the players and possible signings will be most impressed that we now have a Malaysian international at the helm to help a second division Portugeuse player.
Wow...impressive, eh !!
By the way, we are a family club, the Venky family.
rovertakenmb
says...
1:45pm Tue 26 Jun 12
Book "Agents Rovers and Cricket Loving Owners" out July!
The fans fight back...
www.rovertaken.co.uk
John Bumhead
says...
1:48pm Tue 26 Jun 12
ladysal
says...
4:28pm Tue 26 Jun 12
Does he have the power to get rid of Kean? Last I heard only Mrs D had the authority to do that.
He is buying: how good the products are remains to be seen.
There comes a point when a protest runs the risk of destroying the club completely: whilst its not ideal, maybe the best idea is to give them the money to do what they claim to be about to do.
Don't buy season tickets: buy the odd match day ticket. That way you can hedge your bets until we get a clearer idea of what is going to happen.
Just a thought.....
smellthecoffee
says...
5:07pm Tue 26 Jun 12
SuperAtko 13 wrote:I once played against the Manchester All Stars at Chorley FC (which featured Paul Mariner (40 at the time)) and I just happen to live in Michael Robinson's old house. I also just happen to be a 5th generation Rovers supporter. Surely this means I should be in the thoughts of the owners for their next ludicrous appointment.
My favourite line in this story is the following one....“Trevor Brooking was once my team mate. I don’t know if he will remember but if you meet him remind him. It was at Kuala Lumpur in about 1986 or 1987. He guested for Kuala Lumpur."
So in other words Trevor Brooking once played in a Mickey Mouse charity match in Kuala Lumpur that our Shabby also happened to be playing in! Hardly the kind of credentials that warrant being handed the top job at a professional football club. I once played in a charity five-a-side tournament with Alan Kennedy (who was well into his 40s at that point) so I guess I should put myself forwards for the role of chairman then. Why do we need a global adviser anyway? We are playing in the Championship next season, not the Champions League, so no-one outside of East Lancashire will give a monkey's about us anyway...
smellthecoffee
says...
5:14pm Tue 26 Jun 12
doleboytrotter wrote:WELL SAID!!!!
Kean out
Venky's out
Bilaji Rao out
Venkatesh Rao out
Anuradha Desai out
Anderson out
Anderson's kid out
Agnew out
Singh out
SEM out
Kentaro out
Orr out
Murphy out
Hendry out
Cryer out
All who agree with above out. Buy a season ticket and you are complicit, buy a f*cking hot dog and you are propping them up. Hit them in the pocket and force their hand, they will have to sell in order to not lose money.
Oppose what your enemies support (Kean) and support what your enemies oppose (Dissenting alternative opinion).
Only1Garner
says...
6:35pm Tue 26 Jun 12
jaysay wrote:Didn't Shabby come off the bench to score the 8th?
hasslem hasslem wrote:What a great post, I did see Ronnie and Brian play I was at West Ham on boxing day 1963 for our 8-2 win and at home a few days later for our 3-1 defeat by the same time. The train journeys back from London with the players, the 3-3 draw in the cup at Turd Moor after going 3-0 down then winning the reply 2-0 aet, that was the past not last seasons garbage, not Keans weasel words, or indians speaking with fork tongues. If this guy had any conviction about doing the job the first thing he should have done was sack Kean, because that's the only way forward
the past is the past...what is all this tosh.
.
the past is the premiership, the past is numerous play-offs under don mackay and bobby saxton, the past is micky speight breaking the net with thunderbolts, the past is getting "coined" at maine road, the past is getting chased round stanley park by idiotic toffees, the past is bristol rovers at eastgate - last game of the season, the past is getting relegated under iley/pickering, the past is losing loads of managers sparky, souness, smith, lee, furphy, the past is plymouth at home and shrewsbury away. the past is tony field and roger jones, the past is turf moor on boxing day 1977.
.
i can't go back much before 1972 - but i know about the past. never saw clayton or douglas play - but i did go to that testimonial game england XI versus a city/liverpool XI.....but i can't help but feel that this sob story is a cheap attempt to tug on the heartstrings of gullible rovers supporters by bringing ronnie clayton's name into it...here's a challenge mr singh - get bryan douglas to comment on your snake-oil salesman blarney and if he thinks your the genuine article then i will eat my hat.
.
i know that we have complained about no communication for months and now this guy is shouting from the highest steeple. trouble is empty vessels make the loudest noise.
.
he is going to cal a spade a spade is he??? well didn't the spades that were written/expressed by williams, finn, hunt lead to their dismissal. it seems to me that the only way to keep your job for any length of time is to call a spade a positive set of results which shows that we are moving in the right direction and no way will we go down.
.
didn't the LT's very own andy cryer get lamabasted by our "brilliant manager" for calling a spade a spade and not indulging lord haw haw in his relentless attempts to mimic mr micawber.
.
if shebby is so keen to get into the psyche of blackburn rovers he needs to sit down and talk to the staff at ewood (NOT THE PLAYERS) and ask them without fear of being fired about the last 20 months and how they think they have been treated, he needs to speak to supporters (and to be honest i don't care if its the fans forum, brag, brist etc etc) but more importantly he needs to listen and then do something about it. He must not do an all in the garden is rosy communication back to his paymasters - he must be honest......honesty is a virtue which has been sadly lacking in the last 20 months at ewood from our owners, our manager and some of our players. do that and make some decent actions and maybe then we might start believing you.....but you have a lot of work to do mr singh to establish the merest scintilla of credibility.
.
like virtually everyone, except the incredibly naive, i despair and deplore everything about blackburn rovers at the moment. we are adrift...we have become a ghost club.
Only1Garner
says...
6:39pm Tue 26 Jun 12
DanBlackburn wrote:DanBlackburn, I have done exactly the same, I also asked him to explain why our new COMMUNICATIONS guru has not replied to the 4 letters I have sent him, perhaps we should also ask to see sight of the 500 letters and e.mails that the club receive daily in support of the drunkard?
Alienated from the club. Feel disconnected. Clinging on to my interest until vile lying toad Kean leaves. Feel nothing about Goodwillie or Murphy until he has gone.
Wrote to Singh yesterday, a considered and polite letter explaining that many of us will not be back until he sacks Kean. Asking him why he is still there and why he has changed his own mind on the toad's abilities. Do not expect a reply but if I do I shall let you know.
3bricks
says...
8:11pm Tue 26 Jun 12
peely
says...
8:57pm Tue 26 Jun 12
jaysay wrote:I once sold Dougie a car so can i have a job with the chicken farmers ?? And i was alos there at Turfmoor to Ronnie & Bryan help us come back from 3 down with 15 minutes to go in our cup run of 1960-61 !!!
hasslem hasslem wrote: the past is the past...what is all this tosh. . the past is the premiership, the past is numerous play-offs under don mackay and bobby saxton, the past is micky speight breaking the net with thunderbolts, the past is getting "coined" at maine road, the past is getting chased round stanley park by idiotic toffees, the past is bristol rovers at eastgate - last game of the season, the past is getting relegated under iley/pickering, the past is losing loads of managers sparky, souness, smith, lee, furphy, the past is plymouth at home and shrewsbury away. the past is tony field and roger jones, the past is turf moor on boxing day 1977. . i can't go back much before 1972 - but i know about the past. never saw clayton or douglas play - but i did go to that testimonial game england XI versus a city/liverpool XI.....but i can't help but feel that this sob story is a cheap attempt to tug on the heartstrings of gullible rovers supporters by bringing ronnie clayton's name into it...here's a challenge mr singh - get bryan douglas to comment on your snake-oil salesman blarney and if he thinks your the genuine article then i will eat my hat. . i know that we have complained about no communication for months and now this guy is shouting from the highest steeple. trouble is empty vessels make the loudest noise. . he is going to cal a spade a spade is he??? well didn't the spades that were written/expressed by williams, finn, hunt lead to their dismissal. it seems to me that the only way to keep your job for any length of time is to call a spade a positive set of results which shows that we are moving in the right direction and no way will we go down. . didn't the LT's very own andy cryer get lamabasted by our "brilliant manager" for calling a spade a spade and not indulging lord haw haw in his relentless attempts to mimic mr micawber. . if shebby is so keen to get into the psyche of blackburn rovers he needs to sit down and talk to the staff at ewood (NOT THE PLAYERS) and ask them without fear of being fired about the last 20 months and how they think they have been treated, he needs to speak to supporters (and to be honest i don't care if its the fans forum, brag, brist etc etc) but more importantly he needs to listen and then do something about it. He must not do an all in the garden is rosy communication back to his paymasters - he must be honest......honesty is a virtue which has been sadly lacking in the last 20 months at ewood from our owners, our manager and some of our players. do that and make some decent actions and maybe then we might start believing you.....but you have a lot of work to do mr singh to establish the merest scintilla of credibility. . like virtually everyone, except the incredibly naive, i despair and deplore everything about blackburn rovers at the moment. we are adrift...we have become a ghost club.What a great post, I did see Ronnie and Brian play I was at West Ham on boxing day 1963 for our 8-2 win and at home a few days later for our 3-1 defeat by the same time. The train journeys back from London with the players, the 3-3 draw in the cup at Turd Moor after going 3-0 down then winning the reply 2-0 aet, that was the past not last seasons garbage, not Keans weasel words, or indians speaking with fork tongues. If this guy had any conviction about doing the job the first thing he should have done was sack Kean, because that's the only way forward

Road Runner Road Runner says...
4:26pm Mon 25 Jun 12
Rightly so Singh should be inspired by the contents of R. Claytons book.
Success.
First match I attended R Claytons Testimonial.
The love affair began.
Arte et labore