Coyle ‘will need tin hat’ says Fletcher in return to Burnley on the opening day (From Lancashire Telegraph)
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Coyle ‘will need tin hat’ says Fletcher in return to Burnley on the opening day
8:20am Tuesday 19th June 2012 in Football
By Suzanne Geldard, Burnley FC reporter
EX-CLARET Paul Fletcher is anticipating a sell-out for Burnley’s opening day clash with Bolton Wanderers, and a cauldron of noise for Owen Coyle.
The former Clarets boss is set to return to Turf Moor for the second time since leaving the club for the Reebok halfway through their Premier League season.
After suffering rele-gation on the final day of last term, Champion-ship life begins with a mouthwatering derby as Coyle brings Bolton to Burnley again.
And former Clarets striker and chief executive Fletcher believes it is a fixture to whet the appetite for the rest of the 2012/13 campaign.
“It’s a fairytale; a fantastic start to the season and just what the Burnley supporters would relish,” said Fletcher, whose career started with hometown club Bolton before he joined the Clarets in March 1971.
“I’d expect a full house and I think the Burnley supporters will be in full voice.
“It will be tin hat time for Owen Coyle again,” added Fletcher, referring to the hostile atmosphere which awaited Coyle when he was drawn against his old club in the League Cup two years ago.
On that occasion Wade Elliott scored to secure a 1-0 win for the Clarets.
“It was a pretty special night when we turned them over. Hopefully we can do that again. I think it’s a great start,” Fletcher continued.
“I don’t think Owen would have relished visiting Turf Moor any time, but I’m sure he’ll be glad to get it out of the way quickly.”
The game also means a return for former players Chris Eagles and Tyrone Mears, who were bought by Bolton last summer, and former captain and coach Steve Davis, who followed Coyle to the Reebok in January 2010 as part of his backroom team.
“Any player who leaves a club is generally not liked any more. That’s football,” said Fletcher.
“I remember as a player myself, when I went back to the old Burnden Park after I was sold I thought I would get a nice warm welcome, and it was completely the opposite.
“They will all get a rough ride.”
Meanwhile, manager Eddie Howe is looking forward to sampling the first of six north west derbies, with games against Blackpool and bitter rivals Blackburn Rovers to come.
“For both sets of supporters it’s a fantastic game and it really gets the season off with a bang,” he said.
“What makes this year a great season for our supporters is that there is a lot of local pride at stake and we will be doing our best to come out on top in those games.”
Burnley host the first East Lancashire derby with Steve Kean’s Blackburn on December 1, and travel to Ewood Park on March 16, while the games against Blackpool take place on October 20 (home) and April 13 (away).
Howe added: “When the fixtures come out people are raring to go and we certainly are as a coaching staff.
“Hopefully we will come back a better team than last year, learn our lesson and improve.”
Comments(69)
ClaretSince94
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8:49am Tue 19 Jun 12
Keen O to Get Kean Out wrote:Venkys saved you from financial difficulty and the boring hoof ball of Big Sam, look how you treat them!!!
owen coyle did burnley wonders - got them in the PL and 20million quid,, and this is how you treat him !!!
Back in your cave Rovers "supporter", this is a Burnley article, not the latest report on your fans pathetically whinging to every possible authority.
Keen O to Get Kean Out
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9:01am Tue 19 Jun 12
ClaretSince94 wrote:I disagree, Venkys sending BRFC bankrupt and to the vauxhall conference is not 'saving us' - it is destroying us.. We were a great club
Keen O to Get Kean Out wrote: owen coyle did burnley wonders - got them in the PL and 20million quid,, and this is how you treat him !!!Venkys saved you from financial difficulty and the boring hoof ball of Big Sam, look how you treat them!!! Back in your cave Rovers "supporter", this is a Burnley article, not the latest report on your fans pathetically whinging to every possible authority.
gudarii
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9:03am Tue 19 Jun 12
Coyle...............
.forgotten but never forgiven! It will be nice to see him back with his"bigger" club and "better" players!
.forgotten but never forgiven! It will be nice to see him back with his"bigger" club and "better" players!
gudarii
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9:04am Tue 19 Jun 12
Coyle...............
.forgotten but never forgiven! It will be nice to see him back with his"bigger" club and "better" players!
.forgotten but never forgiven! It will be nice to see him back with his"bigger" club and "better" players!
burnleyglentoran
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9:05am Tue 19 Jun 12
Tin hat must be Lancashire rhyming slang!!!!!
NO NAY NEVER
NO NAY NEVER
burnleyglentoran
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9:07am Tue 19 Jun 12
QUESTION -
What will most Blackburn fans do when they win the Championship this year?
ANSWER -
Switch the Playstation off!!!!
GOD SAVE THE KEAN
What will most Blackburn fans do when they win the Championship this year?
ANSWER -
Switch the Playstation off!!!!
GOD SAVE THE KEAN
Hippocroccapig
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9:08am Tue 19 Jun 12
You're not bankrupt though, your season tickets are only threepence ha'penny each.
Oh and it's the Blue Square Premier, not Vauxhall Conference now!
Oh and it's the Blue Square Premier, not Vauxhall Conference now!
spike t
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9:12am Tue 19 Jun 12
Steve Kean's Blackburn-enough said!
BigOrra
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9:27am Tue 19 Jun 12
Why are all the Burnley fans consumed with slagging off Rovers ?? When this is a Burnley thread ??
ClaretSince94
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9:30am Tue 19 Jun 12
BigOrra wrote:Because a Rovers "supporter" posted the first comment on a Burnley article. Why are the Rovers fans consumed (?) with reading and posting their inane, witless and poorly spelt nonsense on every Burnley article?
Why are all the Burnley fans consumed with slagging off Rovers ?? When this is a Burnley thread ??
ClaretSince94
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9:36am Tue 19 Jun 12
Keen O to Get Kean Out wrote:Sorry, I credited you with more intelligence than you obviously have, this was my mistake - sometimes I forget how simple you have to be to be Rovers "supporter" who posts on Burnley articles.
ClaretSince94 wrote:I disagree, Venkys sending BRFC bankrupt and to the vauxhall conference is not 'saving us' - it is destroying us.. We were a great clubKeen O to Get Kean Out wrote: owen coyle did burnley wonders - got them in the PL and 20million quid,, and this is how you treat him !!!Venkys saved you from financial difficulty and the boring hoof ball of Big Sam, look how you treat them!!! Back in your cave Rovers "supporter", this is a Burnley article, not the latest report on your fans pathetically whinging to every possible authority.
I thought you were being ironic with your first comment and I responded in kind, clearly you were just being simple. Don't worry I expect that aspirational programme the Jeremy Kyle Show will be starting soon, put your feet up and enjoy your morning lager that me and my fellow tax payers paid for.
BigOrra
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9:37am Tue 19 Jun 12
You should lighten uo 94, you're consumed I say consumed with hatred. It will eat you up
claretmeandyou
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10:07am Tue 19 Jun 12
Pardon me if I am wrong but isn't this the same Paul Fletcher who said before the start of last season and before the football club "pulled the rug from under Eddie's feet by selling our top players as he was preparing for the forth-coming season with them" that "Burnley would finish in the Top Six of the Championship." Well may I remind Mr Paul Fletcher along with Barry Kilby and the rest of the Burnley board where the club actually finished as if they need reminding.- 13th. That's at least seven places below where he predicted we would finish providing that we finished 6th. We lost more games than we won last season and finished more than 12 points off the play-off places and now he is expecting us to believe him when he says that : " The Bolton game will be a sell-out ! " For starters if he had done his homework he would know that when we played Judas's team in the Carling Cup it was nowhere near a "sell-out" and it won't be on the 18th. August.2012 either. NOT at those ridiculous prices of £31 for a "Gold" match. The only thing that he is right on is that Judas will need his " tin hat on. " Not much news coming out of Turf Moor regarding the Football University these days. Perhaps it is costing the club more than they antisipated and part of the money that they received for Jay Rodreguiz is going to fund that as well as balancing the books. I wait with baited breath to see who is going to be our next big summer signing from the Blue Square Premier League.
Hippocroccapig
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10:20am Tue 19 Jun 12
claretmeandyou wrote:More Tetley anti-Kilby and the borad drivel.
Pardon me if I am wrong but isn't this the same Paul Fletcher who said before the start of last season and before the football club "pulled the rug from under Eddie's feet by selling our top players as he was preparing for the forth-coming season with them" that "Burnley would finish in the Top Six of the Championship." Well may I remind Mr Paul Fletcher along with Barry Kilby and the rest of the Burnley board where the club actually finished as if they need reminding.- 13th. That's at least seven places below where he predicted we would finish providing that we finished 6th. We lost more games than we won last season and finished more than 12 points off the play-off places and now he is expecting us to believe him when he says that : " The Bolton game will be a sell-out ! " For starters if he had done his homework he would know that when we played Judas's team in the Carling Cup it was nowhere near a "sell-out" and it won't be on the 18th. August.2012 either. NOT at those ridiculous prices of £31 for a "Gold" match. The only thing that he is right on is that Judas will need his " tin hat on. " Not much news coming out of Turf Moor regarding the Football University these days. Perhaps it is costing the club more than they antisipated and part of the money that they received for Jay Rodreguiz is going to fund that as well as balancing the books. I wait with baited breath to see who is going to be our next big summer signing from the Blue Square Premier League.
Bore off
Keen O to Get Kean Out
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10:33am Tue 19 Jun 12
ClaretSince94 wrote:i dont drink lager in the morning. So are we rovers fans not allowed to post on Burnley aricles ?, oh i must be mistaken, but theres more Burnely fans 'post' on the Rovers articles then their own. ,,, !! think about it !!
Keen O to Get Kean Out wrote:Sorry, I credited you with more intelligence than you obviously have, this was my mistake - sometimes I forget how simple you have to be to be Rovers "supporter" who posts on Burnley articles. I thought you were being ironic with your first comment and I responded in kind, clearly you were just being simple. Don't worry I expect that aspirational programme the Jeremy Kyle Show will be starting soon, put your feet up and enjoy your morning lager that me and my fellow tax payers paid for.ClaretSince94 wrote:I disagree, Venkys sending BRFC bankrupt and to the vauxhall conference is not 'saving us' - it is destroying us.. We were a great clubKeen O to Get Kean Out wrote: owen coyle did burnley wonders - got them in the PL and 20million quid,, and this is how you treat him !!!Venkys saved you from financial difficulty and the boring hoof ball of Big Sam, look how you treat them!!! Back in your cave Rovers "supporter", this is a Burnley article, not the latest report on your fans pathetically whinging to every possible authority.
claret777
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10:38am Tue 19 Jun 12
Hippocroccapig wrote:Anti Kilby and Board drivel ????
claretmeandyou wrote:More Tetley anti-Kilby and the borad drivel.
Pardon me if I am wrong but isn't this the same Paul Fletcher who said before the start of last season and before the football club "pulled the rug from under Eddie's feet by selling our top players as he was preparing for the forth-coming season with them" that "Burnley would finish in the Top Six of the Championship." Well may I remind Mr Paul Fletcher along with Barry Kilby and the rest of the Burnley board where the club actually finished as if they need reminding.- 13th. That's at least seven places below where he predicted we would finish providing that we finished 6th. We lost more games than we won last season and finished more than 12 points off the play-off places and now he is expecting us to believe him when he says that : " The Bolton game will be a sell-out ! " For starters if he had done his homework he would know that when we played Judas's team in the Carling Cup it was nowhere near a "sell-out" and it won't be on the 18th. August.2012 either. NOT at those ridiculous prices of £31 for a "Gold" match. The only thing that he is right on is that Judas will need his " tin hat on. " Not much news coming out of Turf Moor regarding the Football University these days. Perhaps it is costing the club more than they antisipated and part of the money that they received for Jay Rodreguiz is going to fund that as well as balancing the books. I wait with baited breath to see who is going to be our next big summer signing from the Blue Square Premier League.
Bore off
Your obviously not clued up and are taken in by everything the club tells you.Blackpool 20 mill in profit,Burnley 4 mill in debt after one season in prem.Bpool make 7 changes near end of season and beat leaders Southampton 3-0.We are that short we put kids on bench.Our backroom staff has been decimated.Kilby said at the time,the money from the prem will keep the club going for the next ten years,2 year on we are 4 mill in debt and Kilby said we may have to sell our stars to survive.Bpool tried their utmost to keep their prize assett Charlie Adam,Kilby tried his hardest to sell ours,Jay,who turned Southampton down despite Kilby agreeing a fee.Hows about we take a leaf out of Blackpool's book on how to run a football club.As for the new chairmen-Have we heard them saying they are pumping any cash into the club with their own cash as die-hard Burnley fans ? No,Businessmen dont make their cash by spending it,hence why they are rich.
ClaretSince94
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10:54am Tue 19 Jun 12
Where to start?
BigOrra -
Congratulations, you used "consumed" correctly this time, gold star!
(Although, the "I say" was quite unnecessary. I'll let the typing mistake go too, I'm feeling kind.)
claretmeandyou/clare
t777 (quite obviously the same person, multiple troll accounts being a key indicator that someone's life is just sad and pathetic) -
We put kids on the bench towards the end of the season because the play-offs were out of reach and so we could give our youngsters an important boost in their development.
Charlie Adam was sold for £7 million, the same figure we received for Jay and we didn't try our hardest to sell him, it was inevitable he was going to leave so we tried our hardest to get the biggest fee we could, we succeeded. And I don't know if you've noticed but Blackpool are playing at the same level as ourselves this season?
Finally, the football university doesn't cost the club anything, it is self funding, all the club does is rent out the space in the stadium, it's pure income - with your obsession with the board it's amazing you didn't know this.
Keen O to get Kean Out -
I don't post on Blackburn articles, ever. You post on Burnley articles... "think about it !!"
BigOrra -
Congratulations, you used "consumed" correctly this time, gold star!
(Although, the "I say" was quite unnecessary. I'll let the typing mistake go too, I'm feeling kind.)
claretmeandyou/clare
t777 (quite obviously the same person, multiple troll accounts being a key indicator that someone's life is just sad and pathetic) -
We put kids on the bench towards the end of the season because the play-offs were out of reach and so we could give our youngsters an important boost in their development.
Charlie Adam was sold for £7 million, the same figure we received for Jay and we didn't try our hardest to sell him, it was inevitable he was going to leave so we tried our hardest to get the biggest fee we could, we succeeded. And I don't know if you've noticed but Blackpool are playing at the same level as ourselves this season?
Finally, the football university doesn't cost the club anything, it is self funding, all the club does is rent out the space in the stadium, it's pure income - with your obsession with the board it's amazing you didn't know this.
Keen O to get Kean Out -
I don't post on Blackburn articles, ever. You post on Burnley articles... "think about it !!"
Hippocroccapig
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11:07am Tue 19 Jun 12
claret777 wrote:Please - you talk rubbish man - Both us and Blackpool were forced to sell players that wanted away - have you any proof that Jay rejected a move to Saints in December? has Jay ever come out and said this, did Southampton, did BFC? No thought not.
Hippocroccapig wrote:Anti Kilby and Board drivel ????
claretmeandyou wrote:More Tetley anti-Kilby and the borad drivel.
Pardon me if I am wrong but isn't this the same Paul Fletcher who said before the start of last season and before the football club "pulled the rug from under Eddie's feet by selling our top players as he was preparing for the forth-coming season with them" that "Burnley would finish in the Top Six of the Championship." Well may I remind Mr Paul Fletcher along with Barry Kilby and the rest of the Burnley board where the club actually finished as if they need reminding.- 13th. That's at least seven places below where he predicted we would finish providing that we finished 6th. We lost more games than we won last season and finished more than 12 points off the play-off places and now he is expecting us to believe him when he says that : " The Bolton game will be a sell-out ! " For starters if he had done his homework he would know that when we played Judas's team in the Carling Cup it was nowhere near a "sell-out" and it won't be on the 18th. August.2012 either. NOT at those ridiculous prices of £31 for a "Gold" match. The only thing that he is right on is that Judas will need his " tin hat on. " Not much news coming out of Turf Moor regarding the Football University these days. Perhaps it is costing the club more than they antisipated and part of the money that they received for Jay Rodreguiz is going to fund that as well as balancing the books. I wait with baited breath to see who is going to be our next big summer signing from the Blue Square Premier League.
Bore off
Your obviously not clued up and are taken in by everything the club tells you.Blackpool 20 mill in profit,Burnley 4 mill in debt after one season in prem.Bpool make 7 changes near end of season and beat leaders Southampton 3-0.We are that short we put kids on bench.Our backroom staff has been decimated.Kilby said at the time,the money from the prem will keep the club going for the next ten years,2 year on we are 4 mill in debt and Kilby said we may have to sell our stars to survive.Bpool tried their utmost to keep their prize assett Charlie Adam,Kilby tried his hardest to sell ours,Jay,who turned Southampton down despite Kilby agreeing a fee.Hows about we take a leaf out of Blackpool's book on how to run a football club.As for the new chairmen-Have we heard them saying they are pumping any cash into the club with their own cash as die-hard Burnley fans ? No,Businessmen dont make their cash by spending it,hence why they are rich.
We had to pay off Laws (whose contract length was admittedly an error) and also pay off Bournrmouth for Howe.
Also if memory serves wasn't it Paul Fletcher not Kilby that said the money from the PL will keep us going 10 years?
Take a leaf out of Blackpool's book? Really? I think you will find that they will be kicking off in the same league as us next season and that Holloway has been told he must seriously trim his squad, so they will likely suffer 'second season syndrome'.
When all said and done, the only thing I will blame the board for is giving Brian Laws such a long contract, as ultimately this cost us financially, and also probably cost us the chance of a good season after our drop from the PL.
Would you prefer a takeover by a clueless foreign owner as has happened down the M65? No? Well unless you have several millions to invest then, like me, you should be content with what we have - stability and a board full of BFC fans who have the best interests of the club at heart.
midas
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11:09am Tue 19 Jun 12
claretmeandyou wrote:You are pardoned as once again you are wrong!
Pardon me if I am wrong but isn't this the same Paul Fletcher who said before the start of last season and before the football club "pulled the rug from under Eddie's feet by selling our top players as he was preparing for the forth-coming season with them" that "Burnley would finish in the Top Six of the Championship." Well may I remind Mr Paul Fletcher along with Barry Kilby and the rest of the Burnley board where the club actually finished as if they need reminding.- 13th. That's at least seven places below where he predicted we would finish providing that we finished 6th. We lost more games than we won last season and finished more than 12 points off the play-off places and now he is expecting us to believe him when he says that : " The Bolton game will be a sell-out ! " For starters if he had done his homework he would know that when we played Judas's team in the Carling Cup it was nowhere near a "sell-out" and it won't be on the 18th. August.2012 either. NOT at those ridiculous prices of £31 for a "Gold" match. The only thing that he is right on is that Judas will need his " tin hat on. " Not much news coming out of Turf Moor regarding the Football University these days. Perhaps it is costing the club more than they antisipated and part of the money that they received for Jay Rodreguiz is going to fund that as well as balancing the books. I wait with baited breath to see who is going to be our next big summer signing from the Blue Square Premier League.
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The players left because they wanted to leave (as you well know). What do you expect Fletcher to say? We are going to finish mid table? If he knew at the start of the season the exact finishing position he would be sunbathing on his private Island having cleaned up at all the bookies? Do you really need to be spoon fed by people from the club? Can't you make your own mind up?
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University - nothing to do with the finances of the club, two seperate companies (again a fact that you well know!) and what sort of news do you want? attendance records of the students? whose friends with each other? what their timetable is?
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Do try harder Tetley, and try to do a little bit of research before you launch into your diatribes.
midas
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11:16am Tue 19 Jun 12
claret777 wrote:I didn't realise you were privy to the goings on in the Blackpool Boardroom - how exactly did they keep Charlie Adams and how well did he play after they had refused his request to move? Have you factored in how much their debts were prior to promotion or how much more TV money they got than us? or their transfer surplus?
Hippocroccapig wrote:Anti Kilby and Board drivel ???? Your obviously not clued up and are taken in by everything the club tells you.Blackpool 20 mill in profit,Burnley 4 mill in debt after one season in prem.Bpool make 7 changes near end of season and beat leaders Southampton 3-0.We are that short we put kids on bench.Our backroom staff has been decimated.Kilby said at the time,the money from the prem will keep the club going for the next ten years,2 year on we are 4 mill in debt and Kilby said we may have to sell our stars to survive.Bpool tried their utmost to keep their prize assett Charlie Adam,Kilby tried his hardest to sell ours,Jay,who turned Southampton down despite Kilby agreeing a fee.Hows about we take a leaf out of Blackpool's book on how to run a football club.As for the new chairmen-Have we heard them saying they are pumping any cash into the club with their own cash as die-hard Burnley fans ? No,Businessmen dont make their cash by spending it,hence why they are rich.claretmeandyou wrote: Pardon me if I am wrong but isn't this the same Paul Fletcher who said before the start of last season and before the football club "pulled the rug from under Eddie's feet by selling our top players as he was preparing for the forth-coming season with them" that "Burnley would finish in the Top Six of the Championship." Well may I remind Mr Paul Fletcher along with Barry Kilby and the rest of the Burnley board where the club actually finished as if they need reminding.- 13th. That's at least seven places below where he predicted we would finish providing that we finished 6th. We lost more games than we won last season and finished more than 12 points off the play-off places and now he is expecting us to believe him when he says that : " The Bolton game will be a sell-out ! " For starters if he had done his homework he would know that when we played Judas's team in the Carling Cup it was nowhere near a "sell-out" and it won't be on the 18th. August.2012 either. NOT at those ridiculous prices of £31 for a "Gold" match. The only thing that he is right on is that Judas will need his " tin hat on. " Not much news coming out of Turf Moor regarding the Football University these days. Perhaps it is costing the club more than they antisipated and part of the money that they received for Jay Rodreguiz is going to fund that as well as balancing the books. I wait with baited breath to see who is going to be our next big summer signing from the Blue Square Premier League.More Tetley anti-Kilby and the borad drivel. Bore off
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Jay turned Southampton down? Did he offer to sign a new contract at Burnley or was he just going to let his contract finish and leave for "compensation"? Good bit of business getting £6 million for him.
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We will always sell our best players - isn't that obvious? and why should the directors put their own money - its a business not a charity. Perhaps you could start a trend - set up a direct debit for £50 a month, I am sure your donation would be welcome.
claret777
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11:24am Tue 19 Jun 12
Hippocroccapig wrote:I think you will find your the one talking drivel-Yes Jay turned Southampton down and yes Kilby accepted bid-do some research-Remco Van der schaff 1 game-wages over a million pound,who's faults that then ????
claret777 wrote:Please - you talk rubbish man - Both us and Blackpool were forced to sell players that wanted away - have you any proof that Jay rejected a move to Saints in December? has Jay ever come out and said this, did Southampton, did BFC? No thought not.
Hippocroccapig wrote:Anti Kilby and Board drivel ????
claretmeandyou wrote:More Tetley anti-Kilby and the borad drivel.
Pardon me if I am wrong but isn't this the same Paul Fletcher who said before the start of last season and before the football club "pulled the rug from under Eddie's feet by selling our top players as he was preparing for the forth-coming season with them" that "Burnley would finish in the Top Six of the Championship." Well may I remind Mr Paul Fletcher along with Barry Kilby and the rest of the Burnley board where the club actually finished as if they need reminding.- 13th. That's at least seven places below where he predicted we would finish providing that we finished 6th. We lost more games than we won last season and finished more than 12 points off the play-off places and now he is expecting us to believe him when he says that : " The Bolton game will be a sell-out ! " For starters if he had done his homework he would know that when we played Judas's team in the Carling Cup it was nowhere near a "sell-out" and it won't be on the 18th. August.2012 either. NOT at those ridiculous prices of £31 for a "Gold" match. The only thing that he is right on is that Judas will need his " tin hat on. " Not much news coming out of Turf Moor regarding the Football University these days. Perhaps it is costing the club more than they antisipated and part of the money that they received for Jay Rodreguiz is going to fund that as well as balancing the books. I wait with baited breath to see who is going to be our next big summer signing from the Blue Square Premier League.
Bore off
Your obviously not clued up and are taken in by everything the club tells you.Blackpool 20 mill in profit,Burnley 4 mill in debt after one season in prem.Bpool make 7 changes near end of season and beat leaders Southampton 3-0.We are that short we put kids on bench.Our backroom staff has been decimated.Kilby said at the time,the money from the prem will keep the club going for the next ten years,2 year on we are 4 mill in debt and Kilby said we may have to sell our stars to survive.Bpool tried their utmost to keep their prize assett Charlie Adam,Kilby tried his hardest to sell ours,Jay,who turned Southampton down despite Kilby agreeing a fee.Hows about we take a leaf out of Blackpool's book on how to run a football club.As for the new chairmen-Have we heard them saying they are pumping any cash into the club with their own cash as die-hard Burnley fans ? No,Businessmen dont make their cash by spending it,hence why they are rich.
We had to pay off Laws (whose contract length was admittedly an error) and also pay off Bournrmouth for Howe.
Also if memory serves wasn't it Paul Fletcher not Kilby that said the money from the PL will keep us going 10 years?
Take a leaf out of Blackpool's book? Really? I think you will find that they will be kicking off in the same league as us next season and that Holloway has been told he must seriously trim his squad, so they will likely suffer 'second season syndrome'.
When all said and done, the only thing I will blame the board for is giving Brian Laws such a long contract, as ultimately this cost us financially, and also probably cost us the chance of a good season after our drop from the PL.
Would you prefer a takeover by a clueless foreign owner as has happened down the M65? No? Well unless you have several millions to invest then, like me, you should be content with what we have - stability and a board full of BFC fans who have the best interests of the club at heart.
claret777
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11:27am Tue 19 Jun 12
midas wrote:Never said it wasnt good business selling Jay ? Yeh ive factored all that and also factored we had thousands more in gate receipts,strange one isnt it
claret777 wrote:I didn't realise you were privy to the goings on in the Blackpool Boardroom - how exactly did they keep Charlie Adams and how well did he play after they had refused his request to move? Have you factored in how much their debts were prior to promotion or how much more TV money they got than us? or their transfer surplus?
Hippocroccapig wrote:Anti Kilby and Board drivel ???? Your obviously not clued up and are taken in by everything the club tells you.Blackpool 20 mill in profit,Burnley 4 mill in debt after one season in prem.Bpool make 7 changes near end of season and beat leaders Southampton 3-0.We are that short we put kids on bench.Our backroom staff has been decimated.Kilby said at the time,the money from the prem will keep the club going for the next ten years,2 year on we are 4 mill in debt and Kilby said we may have to sell our stars to survive.Bpool tried their utmost to keep their prize assett Charlie Adam,Kilby tried his hardest to sell ours,Jay,who turned Southampton down despite Kilby agreeing a fee.Hows about we take a leaf out of Blackpool's book on how to run a football club.As for the new chairmen-Have we heard them saying they are pumping any cash into the club with their own cash as die-hard Burnley fans ? No,Businessmen dont make their cash by spending it,hence why they are rich.claretmeandyou wrote: Pardon me if I am wrong but isn't this the same Paul Fletcher who said before the start of last season and before the football club "pulled the rug from under Eddie's feet by selling our top players as he was preparing for the forth-coming season with them" that "Burnley would finish in the Top Six of the Championship." Well may I remind Mr Paul Fletcher along with Barry Kilby and the rest of the Burnley board where the club actually finished as if they need reminding.- 13th. That's at least seven places below where he predicted we would finish providing that we finished 6th. We lost more games than we won last season and finished more than 12 points off the play-off places and now he is expecting us to believe him when he says that : " The Bolton game will be a sell-out ! " For starters if he had done his homework he would know that when we played Judas's team in the Carling Cup it was nowhere near a "sell-out" and it won't be on the 18th. August.2012 either. NOT at those ridiculous prices of £31 for a "Gold" match. The only thing that he is right on is that Judas will need his " tin hat on. " Not much news coming out of Turf Moor regarding the Football University these days. Perhaps it is costing the club more than they antisipated and part of the money that they received for Jay Rodreguiz is going to fund that as well as balancing the books. I wait with baited breath to see who is going to be our next big summer signing from the Blue Square Premier League.More Tetley anti-Kilby and the borad drivel. Bore off
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Jay turned Southampton down? Did he offer to sign a new contract at Burnley or was he just going to let his contract finish and leave for "compensation"? Good bit of business getting £6 million for him.
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We will always sell our best players - isn't that obvious? and why should the directors put their own money - its a business not a charity. Perhaps you could start a trend - set up a direct debit for £50 a month, I am sure your donation would be welcome.
claret777
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11:28am Tue 19 Jun 12
Quite a few shareholders on here today.
Hippocroccapig
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11:32am Tue 19 Jun 12
claret777 wrote:Remco VDS was signed by OWEN COYLE so therefore it was his fault, are you seriously blaming Kilby for backing his manager's judgement?
Hippocroccapig wrote:I think you will find your the one talking drivel-Yes Jay turned Southampton down and yes Kilby accepted bid-do some research-Remco Van der schaff 1 game-wages over a million pound,who's faults that then ????
claret777 wrote:Please - you talk rubbish man - Both us and Blackpool were forced to sell players that wanted away - have you any proof that Jay rejected a move to Saints in December? has Jay ever come out and said this, did Southampton, did BFC? No thought not.
Hippocroccapig wrote:Anti Kilby and Board drivel ????
claretmeandyou wrote:More Tetley anti-Kilby and the borad drivel.
Pardon me if I am wrong but isn't this the same Paul Fletcher who said before the start of last season and before the football club "pulled the rug from under Eddie's feet by selling our top players as he was preparing for the forth-coming season with them" that "Burnley would finish in the Top Six of the Championship." Well may I remind Mr Paul Fletcher along with Barry Kilby and the rest of the Burnley board where the club actually finished as if they need reminding.- 13th. That's at least seven places below where he predicted we would finish providing that we finished 6th. We lost more games than we won last season and finished more than 12 points off the play-off places and now he is expecting us to believe him when he says that : " The Bolton game will be a sell-out ! " For starters if he had done his homework he would know that when we played Judas's team in the Carling Cup it was nowhere near a "sell-out" and it won't be on the 18th. August.2012 either. NOT at those ridiculous prices of £31 for a "Gold" match. The only thing that he is right on is that Judas will need his " tin hat on. " Not much news coming out of Turf Moor regarding the Football University these days. Perhaps it is costing the club more than they antisipated and part of the money that they received for Jay Rodreguiz is going to fund that as well as balancing the books. I wait with baited breath to see who is going to be our next big summer signing from the Blue Square Premier League.
Bore off
Your obviously not clued up and are taken in by everything the club tells you.Blackpool 20 mill in profit,Burnley 4 mill in debt after one season in prem.Bpool make 7 changes near end of season and beat leaders Southampton 3-0.We are that short we put kids on bench.Our backroom staff has been decimated.Kilby said at the time,the money from the prem will keep the club going for the next ten years,2 year on we are 4 mill in debt and Kilby said we may have to sell our stars to survive.Bpool tried their utmost to keep their prize assett Charlie Adam,Kilby tried his hardest to sell ours,Jay,who turned Southampton down despite Kilby agreeing a fee.Hows about we take a leaf out of Blackpool's book on how to run a football club.As for the new chairmen-Have we heard them saying they are pumping any cash into the club with their own cash as die-hard Burnley fans ? No,Businessmen dont make their cash by spending it,hence why they are rich.
We had to pay off Laws (whose contract length was admittedly an error) and also pay off Bournrmouth for Howe.
Also if memory serves wasn't it Paul Fletcher not Kilby that said the money from the PL will keep us going 10 years?
Take a leaf out of Blackpool's book? Really? I think you will find that they will be kicking off in the same league as us next season and that Holloway has been told he must seriously trim his squad, so they will likely suffer 'second season syndrome'.
When all said and done, the only thing I will blame the board for is giving Brian Laws such a long contract, as ultimately this cost us financially, and also probably cost us the chance of a good season after our drop from the PL.
Would you prefer a takeover by a clueless foreign owner as has happened down the M65? No? Well unless you have several millions to invest then, like me, you should be content with what we have - stability and a board full of BFC fans who have the best interests of the club at heart.
Ok - show me your research that PROVES Jay turned down Southampton, do you have any kind of statement from either a) Jay b) BFC or c) Southampton? If the answer is no then bore off with your conspiracy theories.
claret777
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11:40am Tue 19 Jun 12
Hippocroccapig wrote:You really are chomping at the bit,i used to live next door to Jay,so therein lies your answer.Eckersley,Eas
claret777 wrote:Remco VDS was signed by OWEN COYLE so therefore it was his fault, are you seriously blaming Kilby for backing his manager's judgement?
Hippocroccapig wrote:I think you will find your the one talking drivel-Yes Jay turned Southampton down and yes Kilby accepted bid-do some research-Remco Van der schaff 1 game-wages over a million pound,who's faults that then ????
claret777 wrote:Please - you talk rubbish man - Both us and Blackpool were forced to sell players that wanted away - have you any proof that Jay rejected a move to Saints in December? has Jay ever come out and said this, did Southampton, did BFC? No thought not.
Hippocroccapig wrote:Anti Kilby and Board drivel ????
claretmeandyou wrote:More Tetley anti-Kilby and the borad drivel.
Pardon me if I am wrong but isn't this the same Paul Fletcher who said before the start of last season and before the football club "pulled the rug from under Eddie's feet by selling our top players as he was preparing for the forth-coming season with them" that "Burnley would finish in the Top Six of the Championship." Well may I remind Mr Paul Fletcher along with Barry Kilby and the rest of the Burnley board where the club actually finished as if they need reminding.- 13th. That's at least seven places below where he predicted we would finish providing that we finished 6th. We lost more games than we won last season and finished more than 12 points off the play-off places and now he is expecting us to believe him when he says that : " The Bolton game will be a sell-out ! " For starters if he had done his homework he would know that when we played Judas's team in the Carling Cup it was nowhere near a "sell-out" and it won't be on the 18th. August.2012 either. NOT at those ridiculous prices of £31 for a "Gold" match. The only thing that he is right on is that Judas will need his " tin hat on. " Not much news coming out of Turf Moor regarding the Football University these days. Perhaps it is costing the club more than they antisipated and part of the money that they received for Jay Rodreguiz is going to fund that as well as balancing the books. I wait with baited breath to see who is going to be our next big summer signing from the Blue Square Premier League.
Bore off
Your obviously not clued up and are taken in by everything the club tells you.Blackpool 20 mill in profit,Burnley 4 mill in debt after one season in prem.Bpool make 7 changes near end of season and beat leaders Southampton 3-0.We are that short we put kids on bench.Our backroom staff has been decimated.Kilby said at the time,the money from the prem will keep the club going for the next ten years,2 year on we are 4 mill in debt and Kilby said we may have to sell our stars to survive.Bpool tried their utmost to keep their prize assett Charlie Adam,Kilby tried his hardest to sell ours,Jay,who turned Southampton down despite Kilby agreeing a fee.Hows about we take a leaf out of Blackpool's book on how to run a football club.As for the new chairmen-Have we heard them saying they are pumping any cash into the club with their own cash as die-hard Burnley fans ? No,Businessmen dont make their cash by spending it,hence why they are rich.
We had to pay off Laws (whose contract length was admittedly an error) and also pay off Bournrmouth for Howe.
Also if memory serves wasn't it Paul Fletcher not Kilby that said the money from the PL will keep us going 10 years?
Take a leaf out of Blackpool's book? Really? I think you will find that they will be kicking off in the same league as us next season and that Holloway has been told he must seriously trim his squad, so they will likely suffer 'second season syndrome'.
When all said and done, the only thing I will blame the board for is giving Brian Laws such a long contract, as ultimately this cost us financially, and also probably cost us the chance of a good season after our drop from the PL.
Would you prefer a takeover by a clueless foreign owner as has happened down the M65? No? Well unless you have several millions to invest then, like me, you should be content with what we have - stability and a board full of BFC fans who have the best interests of the club at heart.
Ok - show me your research that PROVES Jay turned down Southampton, do you have any kind of statement from either a) Jay b) BFC or c) Southampton? If the answer is no then bore off with your conspiracy theories.
ton there's another 2 for you.
Hippocroccapig
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11:54am Tue 19 Jun 12
claret777 wrote:Ha ha ha ha ha ha - of course you did Fantasy boy, did he used to invite you in for cosy chats about his professional career, and did you get invited to the Rodriguez family barbeques?
Hippocroccapig wrote:You really are chomping at the bit,i used to live next door to Jay,so therein lies your answer.Eckersley,Eas
claret777 wrote:Remco VDS was signed by OWEN COYLE so therefore it was his fault, are you seriously blaming Kilby for backing his manager's judgement?
Hippocroccapig wrote:I think you will find your the one talking drivel-Yes Jay turned Southampton down and yes Kilby accepted bid-do some research-Remco Van der schaff 1 game-wages over a million pound,who's faults that then ????
claret777 wrote:Please - you talk rubbish man - Both us and Blackpool were forced to sell players that wanted away - have you any proof that Jay rejected a move to Saints in December? has Jay ever come out and said this, did Southampton, did BFC? No thought not.
Hippocroccapig wrote:Anti Kilby and Board drivel ????
claretmeandyou wrote:More Tetley anti-Kilby and the borad drivel.
Pardon me if I am wrong but isn't this the same Paul Fletcher who said before the start of last season and before the football club "pulled the rug from under Eddie's feet by selling our top players as he was preparing for the forth-coming season with them" that "Burnley would finish in the Top Six of the Championship." Well may I remind Mr Paul Fletcher along with Barry Kilby and the rest of the Burnley board where the club actually finished as if they need reminding.- 13th. That's at least seven places below where he predicted we would finish providing that we finished 6th. We lost more games than we won last season and finished more than 12 points off the play-off places and now he is expecting us to believe him when he says that : " The Bolton game will be a sell-out ! " For starters if he had done his homework he would know that when we played Judas's team in the Carling Cup it was nowhere near a "sell-out" and it won't be on the 18th. August.2012 either. NOT at those ridiculous prices of £31 for a "Gold" match. The only thing that he is right on is that Judas will need his " tin hat on. " Not much news coming out of Turf Moor regarding the Football University these days. Perhaps it is costing the club more than they antisipated and part of the money that they received for Jay Rodreguiz is going to fund that as well as balancing the books. I wait with baited breath to see who is going to be our next big summer signing from the Blue Square Premier League.
Bore off
Your obviously not clued up and are taken in by everything the club tells you.Blackpool 20 mill in profit,Burnley 4 mill in debt after one season in prem.Bpool make 7 changes near end of season and beat leaders Southampton 3-0.We are that short we put kids on bench.Our backroom staff has been decimated.Kilby said at the time,the money from the prem will keep the club going for the next ten years,2 year on we are 4 mill in debt and Kilby said we may have to sell our stars to survive.Bpool tried their utmost to keep their prize assett Charlie Adam,Kilby tried his hardest to sell ours,Jay,who turned Southampton down despite Kilby agreeing a fee.Hows about we take a leaf out of Blackpool's book on how to run a football club.As for the new chairmen-Have we heard them saying they are pumping any cash into the club with their own cash as die-hard Burnley fans ? No,Businessmen dont make their cash by spending it,hence why they are rich.
We had to pay off Laws (whose contract length was admittedly an error) and also pay off Bournrmouth for Howe.
Also if memory serves wasn't it Paul Fletcher not Kilby that said the money from the PL will keep us going 10 years?
Take a leaf out of Blackpool's book? Really? I think you will find that they will be kicking off in the same league as us next season and that Holloway has been told he must seriously trim his squad, so they will likely suffer 'second season syndrome'.
When all said and done, the only thing I will blame the board for is giving Brian Laws such a long contract, as ultimately this cost us financially, and also probably cost us the chance of a good season after our drop from the PL.
Would you prefer a takeover by a clueless foreign owner as has happened down the M65? No? Well unless you have several millions to invest then, like me, you should be content with what we have - stability and a board full of BFC fans who have the best interests of the club at heart.
Ok - show me your research that PROVES Jay turned down Southampton, do you have any kind of statement from either a) Jay b) BFC or c) Southampton? If the answer is no then bore off with your conspiracy theories.
ton there's another 2 for you.
I will type this slowly as I know you can't read very fast - WHO SIGNED EASTON AND ECKERSLEY - when you work it out, you will have your answer of who is to blame.
Kilby merely backed the judgement of his manager, as he should do - if the players then turn out to be garbage then the fault lies at the manager's door, not the chairman (Unless you have an ulterior motive of course).
Must go, I live next door to Jimmy Anderson and he wants to have a bowl at me - cheerio.
claret777
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11:55am Tue 19 Jun 12
claret777 wrote:Who employs the managers ? Answer-the board.Then you say Laws contract was too long ? No,Laws appointment was a total disgrace and as i predicted at the time would cost the club its prem status and millions in cash-spot on-Cort 1.5 million plus wages,what a signing,it's all ok blaming Laws and Coyle for awful signings but it's the board who employed them.why stick up for them and say they are doing great ? And dont bore us with Pompey,Rangers etc,
Hippocroccapig wrote:You really are chomping at the bit,i used to live next door to Jay,so therein lies your answer.Eckersley,Eas
claret777 wrote:Remco VDS was signed by OWEN COYLE so therefore it was his fault, are you seriously blaming Kilby for backing his manager's judgement?
Hippocroccapig wrote:I think you will find your the one talking drivel-Yes Jay turned Southampton down and yes Kilby accepted bid-do some research-Remco Van der schaff 1 game-wages over a million pound,who's faults that then ????
claret777 wrote:Please - you talk rubbish man - Both us and Blackpool were forced to sell players that wanted away - have you any proof that Jay rejected a move to Saints in December? has Jay ever come out and said this, did Southampton, did BFC? No thought not.
Hippocroccapig wrote:Anti Kilby and Board drivel ????
claretmeandyou wrote:More Tetley anti-Kilby and the borad drivel.
Pardon me if I am wrong but isn't this the same Paul Fletcher who said before the start of last season and before the football club "pulled the rug from under Eddie's feet by selling our top players as he was preparing for the forth-coming season with them" that "Burnley would finish in the Top Six of the Championship." Well may I remind Mr Paul Fletcher along with Barry Kilby and the rest of the Burnley board where the club actually finished as if they need reminding.- 13th. That's at least seven places below where he predicted we would finish providing that we finished 6th. We lost more games than we won last season and finished more than 12 points off the play-off places and now he is expecting us to believe him when he says that : " The Bolton game will be a sell-out ! " For starters if he had done his homework he would know that when we played Judas's team in the Carling Cup it was nowhere near a "sell-out" and it won't be on the 18th. August.2012 either. NOT at those ridiculous prices of £31 for a "Gold" match. The only thing that he is right on is that Judas will need his " tin hat on. " Not much news coming out of Turf Moor regarding the Football University these days. Perhaps it is costing the club more than they antisipated and part of the money that they received for Jay Rodreguiz is going to fund that as well as balancing the books. I wait with baited breath to see who is going to be our next big summer signing from the Blue Square Premier League.
Bore off
Your obviously not clued up and are taken in by everything the club tells you.Blackpool 20 mill in profit,Burnley 4 mill in debt after one season in prem.Bpool make 7 changes near end of season and beat leaders Southampton 3-0.We are that short we put kids on bench.Our backroom staff has been decimated.Kilby said at the time,the money from the prem will keep the club going for the next ten years,2 year on we are 4 mill in debt and Kilby said we may have to sell our stars to survive.Bpool tried their utmost to keep their prize assett Charlie Adam,Kilby tried his hardest to sell ours,Jay,who turned Southampton down despite Kilby agreeing a fee.Hows about we take a leaf out of Blackpool's book on how to run a football club.As for the new chairmen-Have we heard them saying they are pumping any cash into the club with their own cash as die-hard Burnley fans ? No,Businessmen dont make their cash by spending it,hence why they are rich.
We had to pay off Laws (whose contract length was admittedly an error) and also pay off Bournrmouth for Howe.
Also if memory serves wasn't it Paul Fletcher not Kilby that said the money from the PL will keep us going 10 years?
Take a leaf out of Blackpool's book? Really? I think you will find that they will be kicking off in the same league as us next season and that Holloway has been told he must seriously trim his squad, so they will likely suffer 'second season syndrome'.
When all said and done, the only thing I will blame the board for is giving Brian Laws such a long contract, as ultimately this cost us financially, and also probably cost us the chance of a good season after our drop from the PL.
Would you prefer a takeover by a clueless foreign owner as has happened down the M65? No? Well unless you have several millions to invest then, like me, you should be content with what we have - stability and a board full of BFC fans who have the best interests of the club at heart.
Ok - show me your research that PROVES Jay turned down Southampton, do you have any kind of statement from either a) Jay b) BFC or c) Southampton? If the answer is no then bore off with your conspiracy theories.
ton there's another 2 for you.
midas
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12:05pm Tue 19 Jun 12
So the board were wrong to employ Coyle? or where they wrong, having appointed Laws, to then let him buy players? Should the board decide which players the club sign and then the manager (or would that be coach?) just works with what he is presented with?
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Anyway, got to go as Jimmy Mac has just popped round for a quick "3 and your in".
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Anyway, got to go as Jimmy Mac has just popped round for a quick "3 and your in".
Keen O to Get Kean Out
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12:06pm Tue 19 Jun 12
claret777 wrote:stop arguing lads and, support your club ,, blackburn blackpool and burnley are all getting relegated again together so lets party
claret777 wrote:Who employs the managers ? Answer-the board.Then you say Laws contract was too long ? No,Laws appointment was a total disgrace and as i predicted at the time would cost the club its prem status and millions in cash-spot on-Cort 1.5 million plus wages,what a signing,it's all ok blaming Laws and Coyle for awful signings but it's the board who employed them.why stick up for them and say they are doing great ? And dont bore us with Pompey,Rangers etc,Hippocroccapig wrote:You really are chomping at the bit,i used to live next door to Jay,so therein lies your answer.Eckersley,Eas ton there's another 2 for you.claret777 wrote:Remco VDS was signed by OWEN COYLE so therefore it was his fault, are you seriously blaming Kilby for backing his manager's judgement? Ok - show me your research that PROVES Jay turned down Southampton, do you have any kind of statement from either a) Jay b) BFC or c) Southampton? If the answer is no then bore off with your conspiracy theories.Hippocroccapig wrote:I think you will find your the one talking drivel-Yes Jay turned Southampton down and yes Kilby accepted bid-do some research-Remco Van der schaff 1 game-wages over a million pound,who's faults that then ????claret777 wrote:Please - you talk rubbish man - Both us and Blackpool were forced to sell players that wanted away - have you any proof that Jay rejected a move to Saints in December? has Jay ever come out and said this, did Southampton, did BFC? No thought not. We had to pay off Laws (whose contract length was admittedly an error) and also pay off Bournrmouth for Howe. Also if memory serves wasn't it Paul Fletcher not Kilby that said the money from the PL will keep us going 10 years? Take a leaf out of Blackpool's book? Really? I think you will find that they will be kicking off in the same league as us next season and that Holloway has been told he must seriously trim his squad, so they will likely suffer 'second season syndrome'. When all said and done, the only thing I will blame the board for is giving Brian Laws such a long contract, as ultimately this cost us financially, and also probably cost us the chance of a good season after our drop from the PL. Would you prefer a takeover by a clueless foreign owner as has happened down the M65? No? Well unless you have several millions to invest then, like me, you should be content with what we have - stability and a board full of BFC fans who have the best interests of the club at heart.Hippocroccapig wrote:Anti Kilby and Board drivel ???? Your obviously not clued up and are taken in by everything the club tells you.Blackpool 20 mill in profit,Burnley 4 mill in debt after one season in prem.Bpool make 7 changes near end of season and beat leaders Southampton 3-0.We are that short we put kids on bench.Our backroom staff has been decimated.Kilby said at the time,the money from the prem will keep the club going for the next ten years,2 year on we are 4 mill in debt and Kilby said we may have to sell our stars to survive.Bpool tried their utmost to keep their prize assett Charlie Adam,Kilby tried his hardest to sell ours,Jay,who turned Southampton down despite Kilby agreeing a fee.Hows about we take a leaf out of Blackpool's book on how to run a football club.As for the new chairmen-Have we heard them saying they are pumping any cash into the club with their own cash as die-hard Burnley fans ? No,Businessmen dont make their cash by spending it,hence why they are rich.claretmeandyou wrote: Pardon me if I am wrong but isn't this the same Paul Fletcher who said before the start of last season and before the football club "pulled the rug from under Eddie's feet by selling our top players as he was preparing for the forth-coming season with them" that "Burnley would finish in the Top Six of the Championship." Well may I remind Mr Paul Fletcher along with Barry Kilby and the rest of the Burnley board where the club actually finished as if they need reminding.- 13th. That's at least seven places below where he predicted we would finish providing that we finished 6th. We lost more games than we won last season and finished more than 12 points off the play-off places and now he is expecting us to believe him when he says that : " The Bolton game will be a sell-out ! " For starters if he had done his homework he would know that when we played Judas's team in the Carling Cup it was nowhere near a "sell-out" and it won't be on the 18th. August.2012 either. NOT at those ridiculous prices of £31 for a "Gold" match. The only thing that he is right on is that Judas will need his " tin hat on. " Not much news coming out of Turf Moor regarding the Football University these days. Perhaps it is costing the club more than they antisipated and part of the money that they received for Jay Rodreguiz is going to fund that as well as balancing the books. I wait with baited breath to see who is going to be our next big summer signing from the Blue Square Premier League.More Tetley anti-Kilby and the borad drivel. Bore off
Hippocroccapig
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12:08pm Tue 19 Jun 12
Mate you are seriously deluded - I have already said I agree that Laws was the wrong manager, as for his signings, I do have a degree of sympathy with Cort because of the timing (The last week in January) and we needed bodies in, particularly defensively. History will tell that Cort was poor and a waste of a wage - did well with Jack Cork and Danny Fox though just to balance things out.
So, are you blaming the board for employing both Laws AND Coyle?
Every manager at every club makes poor signings, but you can't blame the board for these, any club's signings are purely down to the manager wanting these players and the board then backing the manager's decision.
Do you have a suggestion who the board should have emplioyed instead of Laws by the way? Hull City appointed Ian Dowie at around the same time and look at the problems that Wolves had in appointing a manager after they sacked Mick McCarthy - the simple facts are no manager wants a relegation on their CV.
In fact the only credible candidates that I can remember after Coyle left were Lee Clark (Since sacked by by Huddersfield); Simon Grayson (Since sacked by Leeds) and Sean O'Driscoll (Since sacked by Donny Rovers).
So OK then Einstein which of these failed managers would you have appointed?
So, are you blaming the board for employing both Laws AND Coyle?
Every manager at every club makes poor signings, but you can't blame the board for these, any club's signings are purely down to the manager wanting these players and the board then backing the manager's decision.
Do you have a suggestion who the board should have emplioyed instead of Laws by the way? Hull City appointed Ian Dowie at around the same time and look at the problems that Wolves had in appointing a manager after they sacked Mick McCarthy - the simple facts are no manager wants a relegation on their CV.
In fact the only credible candidates that I can remember after Coyle left were Lee Clark (Since sacked by by Huddersfield); Simon Grayson (Since sacked by Leeds) and Sean O'Driscoll (Since sacked by Donny Rovers).
So OK then Einstein which of these failed managers would you have appointed?
claret777
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12:10pm Tue 19 Jun 12
Hippocroccapig wrote:Touched a raw nerve i see.yes,had quite a few barbies with Jay thanks,dont see your gripe(apart from being proven wrong of course)So let's blame the managers not the people who chose them to manage the club ? Another deluded shareholder,must go,has Luke O'Neills moving into Jay's old house tomorrow.
claret777 wrote:Ha ha ha ha ha ha - of course you did Fantasy boy, did he used to invite you in for cosy chats about his professional career, and did you get invited to the Rodriguez family barbeques?
Hippocroccapig wrote:You really are chomping at the bit,i used to live next door to Jay,so therein lies your answer.Eckersley,Eas
claret777 wrote:Remco VDS was signed by OWEN COYLE so therefore it was his fault, are you seriously blaming Kilby for backing his manager's judgement?
Hippocroccapig wrote:I think you will find your the one talking drivel-Yes Jay turned Southampton down and yes Kilby accepted bid-do some research-Remco Van der schaff 1 game-wages over a million pound,who's faults that then ????
claret777 wrote:Please - you talk rubbish man - Both us and Blackpool were forced to sell players that wanted away - have you any proof that Jay rejected a move to Saints in December? has Jay ever come out and said this, did Southampton, did BFC? No thought not.
Hippocroccapig wrote:Anti Kilby and Board drivel ????
claretmeandyou wrote:More Tetley anti-Kilby and the borad drivel.
Pardon me if I am wrong but isn't this the same Paul Fletcher who said before the start of last season and before the football club "pulled the rug from under Eddie's feet by selling our top players as he was preparing for the forth-coming season with them" that "Burnley would finish in the Top Six of the Championship." Well may I remind Mr Paul Fletcher along with Barry Kilby and the rest of the Burnley board where the club actually finished as if they need reminding.- 13th. That's at least seven places below where he predicted we would finish providing that we finished 6th. We lost more games than we won last season and finished more than 12 points off the play-off places and now he is expecting us to believe him when he says that : " The Bolton game will be a sell-out ! " For starters if he had done his homework he would know that when we played Judas's team in the Carling Cup it was nowhere near a "sell-out" and it won't be on the 18th. August.2012 either. NOT at those ridiculous prices of £31 for a "Gold" match. The only thing that he is right on is that Judas will need his " tin hat on. " Not much news coming out of Turf Moor regarding the Football University these days. Perhaps it is costing the club more than they antisipated and part of the money that they received for Jay Rodreguiz is going to fund that as well as balancing the books. I wait with baited breath to see who is going to be our next big summer signing from the Blue Square Premier League.
Bore off
Your obviously not clued up and are taken in by everything the club tells you.Blackpool 20 mill in profit,Burnley 4 mill in debt after one season in prem.Bpool make 7 changes near end of season and beat leaders Southampton 3-0.We are that short we put kids on bench.Our backroom staff has been decimated.Kilby said at the time,the money from the prem will keep the club going for the next ten years,2 year on we are 4 mill in debt and Kilby said we may have to sell our stars to survive.Bpool tried their utmost to keep their prize assett Charlie Adam,Kilby tried his hardest to sell ours,Jay,who turned Southampton down despite Kilby agreeing a fee.Hows about we take a leaf out of Blackpool's book on how to run a football club.As for the new chairmen-Have we heard them saying they are pumping any cash into the club with their own cash as die-hard Burnley fans ? No,Businessmen dont make their cash by spending it,hence why they are rich.
We had to pay off Laws (whose contract length was admittedly an error) and also pay off Bournrmouth for Howe.
Also if memory serves wasn't it Paul Fletcher not Kilby that said the money from the PL will keep us going 10 years?
Take a leaf out of Blackpool's book? Really? I think you will find that they will be kicking off in the same league as us next season and that Holloway has been told he must seriously trim his squad, so they will likely suffer 'second season syndrome'.
When all said and done, the only thing I will blame the board for is giving Brian Laws such a long contract, as ultimately this cost us financially, and also probably cost us the chance of a good season after our drop from the PL.
Would you prefer a takeover by a clueless foreign owner as has happened down the M65? No? Well unless you have several millions to invest then, like me, you should be content with what we have - stability and a board full of BFC fans who have the best interests of the club at heart.
Ok - show me your research that PROVES Jay turned down Southampton, do you have any kind of statement from either a) Jay b) BFC or c) Southampton? If the answer is no then bore off with your conspiracy theories.
ton there's another 2 for you.
I will type this slowly as I know you can't read very fast - WHO SIGNED EASTON AND ECKERSLEY - when you work it out, you will have your answer of who is to blame.
Kilby merely backed the judgement of his manager, as he should do - if the players then turn out to be garbage then the fault lies at the manager's door, not the chairman (Unless you have an ulterior motive of course).
Must go, I live next door to Jimmy Anderson and he wants to have a bowl at me - cheerio.
Hippocroccapig
says...
12:16pm Tue 19 Jun 12
claret777 wrote:Tee hee OK then, so what you are actually saying is that you have PROVED me wrong by making up that you live next door to Jay?
Hippocroccapig wrote:Touched a raw nerve i see.yes,had quite a few barbies with Jay thanks,dont see your gripe(apart from being proven wrong of course)So let's blame the managers not the people who chose them to manage the club ? Another deluded shareholder,must go,has Luke O'Neills moving into Jay's old house tomorrow.
claret777 wrote:Ha ha ha ha ha ha - of course you did Fantasy boy, did he used to invite you in for cosy chats about his professional career, and did you get invited to the Rodriguez family barbeques?
Hippocroccapig wrote:You really are chomping at the bit,i used to live next door to Jay,so therein lies your answer.Eckersley,Eas
claret777 wrote:Remco VDS was signed by OWEN COYLE so therefore it was his fault, are you seriously blaming Kilby for backing his manager's judgement?
Hippocroccapig wrote:I think you will find your the one talking drivel-Yes Jay turned Southampton down and yes Kilby accepted bid-do some research-Remco Van der schaff 1 game-wages over a million pound,who's faults that then ????
claret777 wrote:Please - you talk rubbish man - Both us and Blackpool were forced to sell players that wanted away - have you any proof that Jay rejected a move to Saints in December? has Jay ever come out and said this, did Southampton, did BFC? No thought not.
Hippocroccapig wrote:Anti Kilby and Board drivel ????
claretmeandyou wrote:More Tetley anti-Kilby and the borad drivel.
Pardon me if I am wrong but isn't this the same Paul Fletcher who said before the start of last season and before the football club "pulled the rug from under Eddie's feet by selling our top players as he was preparing for the forth-coming season with them" that "Burnley would finish in the Top Six of the Championship." Well may I remind Mr Paul Fletcher along with Barry Kilby and the rest of the Burnley board where the club actually finished as if they need reminding.- 13th. That's at least seven places below where he predicted we would finish providing that we finished 6th. We lost more games than we won last season and finished more than 12 points off the play-off places and now he is expecting us to believe him when he says that : " The Bolton game will be a sell-out ! " For starters if he had done his homework he would know that when we played Judas's team in the Carling Cup it was nowhere near a "sell-out" and it won't be on the 18th. August.2012 either. NOT at those ridiculous prices of £31 for a "Gold" match. The only thing that he is right on is that Judas will need his " tin hat on. " Not much news coming out of Turf Moor regarding the Football University these days. Perhaps it is costing the club more than they antisipated and part of the money that they received for Jay Rodreguiz is going to fund that as well as balancing the books. I wait with baited breath to see who is going to be our next big summer signing from the Blue Square Premier League.
Bore off
Your obviously not clued up and are taken in by everything the club tells you.Blackpool 20 mill in profit,Burnley 4 mill in debt after one season in prem.Bpool make 7 changes near end of season and beat leaders Southampton 3-0.We are that short we put kids on bench.Our backroom staff has been decimated.Kilby said at the time,the money from the prem will keep the club going for the next ten years,2 year on we are 4 mill in debt and Kilby said we may have to sell our stars to survive.Bpool tried their utmost to keep their prize assett Charlie Adam,Kilby tried his hardest to sell ours,Jay,who turned Southampton down despite Kilby agreeing a fee.Hows about we take a leaf out of Blackpool's book on how to run a football club.As for the new chairmen-Have we heard them saying they are pumping any cash into the club with their own cash as die-hard Burnley fans ? No,Businessmen dont make their cash by spending it,hence why they are rich.
We had to pay off Laws (whose contract length was admittedly an error) and also pay off Bournrmouth for Howe.
Also if memory serves wasn't it Paul Fletcher not Kilby that said the money from the PL will keep us going 10 years?
Take a leaf out of Blackpool's book? Really? I think you will find that they will be kicking off in the same league as us next season and that Holloway has been told he must seriously trim his squad, so they will likely suffer 'second season syndrome'.
When all said and done, the only thing I will blame the board for is giving Brian Laws such a long contract, as ultimately this cost us financially, and also probably cost us the chance of a good season after our drop from the PL.
Would you prefer a takeover by a clueless foreign owner as has happened down the M65? No? Well unless you have several millions to invest then, like me, you should be content with what we have - stability and a board full of BFC fans who have the best interests of the club at heart.
Ok - show me your research that PROVES Jay turned down Southampton, do you have any kind of statement from either a) Jay b) BFC or c) Southampton? If the answer is no then bore off with your conspiracy theories.
ton there's another 2 for you.
I will type this slowly as I know you can't read very fast - WHO SIGNED EASTON AND ECKERSLEY - when you work it out, you will have your answer of who is to blame.
Kilby merely backed the judgement of his manager, as he should do - if the players then turn out to be garbage then the fault lies at the manager's door, not the chairman (Unless you have an ulterior motive of course).
Must go, I live next door to Jimmy Anderson and he wants to have a bowl at me - cheerio.
Wow, your evidence is just too strong.
So, I will ask again - do you blame Kilby for employing Owen Coyle?
claret777
says...
12:29pm Tue 19 Jun 12
Hippocroccapig wrote:So now you have sympathy with Cort(which also means sympathy with Laws because he signed him ? And you call me deluded ? Im sure if the board had any ambition to stay in the top flight they could have paid compensation to a club,let's see who could have got the job instead of employing a manager who got sacked with Sheff Wed when they were in bottom 3 of Championship.Paul Lambert(Coyle was unproven)Stan Ternent(would have been ideal to give the players and fans a massive lift(he could have also made big name signings like in the past)O'Driscoll(yes he got sacked eventually)but come on,Doncaster Rovers(Fergie would struggle to keep them up)and there's lots lots more who we could have got.Laws appointment just didnt make any sense apart from not having to pay any compensation for him and an ex player,also Steve Coppell and Alan Curbishley were out there as well.
Mate you are seriously deluded - I have already said I agree that Laws was the wrong manager, as for his signings, I do have a degree of sympathy with Cort because of the timing (The last week in January) and we needed bodies in, particularly defensively. History will tell that Cort was poor and a waste of a wage - did well with Jack Cork and Danny Fox though just to balance things out.
So, are you blaming the board for employing both Laws AND Coyle?
Every manager at every club makes poor signings, but you can't blame the board for these, any club's signings are purely down to the manager wanting these players and the board then backing the manager's decision.
Do you have a suggestion who the board should have emplioyed instead of Laws by the way? Hull City appointed Ian Dowie at around the same time and look at the problems that Wolves had in appointing a manager after they sacked Mick McCarthy - the simple facts are no manager wants a relegation on their CV.
In fact the only credible candidates that I can remember after Coyle left were Lee Clark (Since sacked by by Huddersfield); Simon Grayson (Since sacked by Leeds) and Sean O'Driscoll (Since sacked by Donny Rovers).
So OK then Einstein which of these failed managers would you have appointed?
claret777
says...
12:35pm Tue 19 Jun 12
Hippocroccapig wrote:Was waiting for that,i can read your mind now,as Kilby stated(do your research)Coyle just happened by chance over a game of golf up in Scotland-it was an absolute fluke how Coyle came about and as Kilby stated,never in his dreams did he think Coyle would get us into the Premiership.
claret777 wrote:Tee hee OK then, so what you are actually saying is that you have PROVED me wrong by making up that you live next door to Jay?
Hippocroccapig wrote:Touched a raw nerve i see.yes,had quite a few barbies with Jay thanks,dont see your gripe(apart from being proven wrong of course)So let's blame the managers not the people who chose them to manage the club ? Another deluded shareholder,must go,has Luke O'Neills moving into Jay's old house tomorrow.
claret777 wrote:Ha ha ha ha ha ha - of course you did Fantasy boy, did he used to invite you in for cosy chats about his professional career, and did you get invited to the Rodriguez family barbeques?
Hippocroccapig wrote:You really are chomping at the bit,i used to live next door to Jay,so therein lies your answer.Eckersley,Eas
claret777 wrote:Remco VDS was signed by OWEN COYLE so therefore it was his fault, are you seriously blaming Kilby for backing his manager's judgement?
Hippocroccapig wrote:I think you will find your the one talking drivel-Yes Jay turned Southampton down and yes Kilby accepted bid-do some research-Remco Van der schaff 1 game-wages over a million pound,who's faults that then ????
claret777 wrote:Please - you talk rubbish man - Both us and Blackpool were forced to sell players that wanted away - have you any proof that Jay rejected a move to Saints in December? has Jay ever come out and said this, did Southampton, did BFC? No thought not.
Hippocroccapig wrote:Anti Kilby and Board drivel ????
claretmeandyou wrote:More Tetley anti-Kilby and the borad drivel.
Pardon me if I am wrong but isn't this the same Paul Fletcher who said before the start of last season and before the football club "pulled the rug from under Eddie's feet by selling our top players as he was preparing for the forth-coming season with them" that "Burnley would finish in the Top Six of the Championship." Well may I remind Mr Paul Fletcher along with Barry Kilby and the rest of the Burnley board where the club actually finished as if they need reminding.- 13th. That's at least seven places below where he predicted we would finish providing that we finished 6th. We lost more games than we won last season and finished more than 12 points off the play-off places and now he is expecting us to believe him when he says that : " The Bolton game will be a sell-out ! " For starters if he had done his homework he would know that when we played Judas's team in the Carling Cup it was nowhere near a "sell-out" and it won't be on the 18th. August.2012 either. NOT at those ridiculous prices of £31 for a "Gold" match. The only thing that he is right on is that Judas will need his " tin hat on. " Not much news coming out of Turf Moor regarding the Football University these days. Perhaps it is costing the club more than they antisipated and part of the money that they received for Jay Rodreguiz is going to fund that as well as balancing the books. I wait with baited breath to see who is going to be our next big summer signing from the Blue Square Premier League.
Bore off
Your obviously not clued up and are taken in by everything the club tells you.Blackpool 20 mill in profit,Burnley 4 mill in debt after one season in prem.Bpool make 7 changes near end of season and beat leaders Southampton 3-0.We are that short we put kids on bench.Our backroom staff has been decimated.Kilby said at the time,the money from the prem will keep the club going for the next ten years,2 year on we are 4 mill in debt and Kilby said we may have to sell our stars to survive.Bpool tried their utmost to keep their prize assett Charlie Adam,Kilby tried his hardest to sell ours,Jay,who turned Southampton down despite Kilby agreeing a fee.Hows about we take a leaf out of Blackpool's book on how to run a football club.As for the new chairmen-Have we heard them saying they are pumping any cash into the club with their own cash as die-hard Burnley fans ? No,Businessmen dont make their cash by spending it,hence why they are rich.
We had to pay off Laws (whose contract length was admittedly an error) and also pay off Bournrmouth for Howe.
Also if memory serves wasn't it Paul Fletcher not Kilby that said the money from the PL will keep us going 10 years?
Take a leaf out of Blackpool's book? Really? I think you will find that they will be kicking off in the same league as us next season and that Holloway has been told he must seriously trim his squad, so they will likely suffer 'second season syndrome'.
When all said and done, the only thing I will blame the board for is giving Brian Laws such a long contract, as ultimately this cost us financially, and also probably cost us the chance of a good season after our drop from the PL.
Would you prefer a takeover by a clueless foreign owner as has happened down the M65? No? Well unless you have several millions to invest then, like me, you should be content with what we have - stability and a board full of BFC fans who have the best interests of the club at heart.
Ok - show me your research that PROVES Jay turned down Southampton, do you have any kind of statement from either a) Jay b) BFC or c) Southampton? If the answer is no then bore off with your conspiracy theories.
ton there's another 2 for you.
I will type this slowly as I know you can't read very fast - WHO SIGNED EASTON AND ECKERSLEY - when you work it out, you will have your answer of who is to blame.
Kilby merely backed the judgement of his manager, as he should do - if the players then turn out to be garbage then the fault lies at the manager's door, not the chairman (Unless you have an ulterior motive of course).
Must go, I live next door to Jimmy Anderson and he wants to have a bowl at me - cheerio.
Wow, your evidence is just too strong.
So, I will ask again - do you blame Kilby for employing Owen Coyle?
Hippocroccapig
says...
1:19pm Tue 19 Jun 12
claret777 wrote:ANSWER THE QUESTION - do you blame Kilby for employing Coyle, given that you have just slagged off three of his signings - Easton, Eckersley and Remco VDS?
Hippocroccapig wrote:Was waiting for that,i can read your mind now,as Kilby stated(do your research)Coyle just happened by chance over a game of golf up in Scotland-it was an absolute fluke how Coyle came about and as Kilby stated,never in his dreams did he think Coyle would get us into the Premiership.
claret777 wrote:Tee hee OK then, so what you are actually saying is that you have PROVED me wrong by making up that you live next door to Jay?
Hippocroccapig wrote:Touched a raw nerve i see.yes,had quite a few barbies with Jay thanks,dont see your gripe(apart from being proven wrong of course)So let's blame the managers not the people who chose them to manage the club ? Another deluded shareholder,must go,has Luke O'Neills moving into Jay's old house tomorrow.
claret777 wrote:Ha ha ha ha ha ha - of course you did Fantasy boy, did he used to invite you in for cosy chats about his professional career, and did you get invited to the Rodriguez family barbeques?
Hippocroccapig wrote:You really are chomping at the bit,i used to live next door to Jay,so therein lies your answer.Eckersley,Eas
claret777 wrote:Remco VDS was signed by OWEN COYLE so therefore it was his fault, are you seriously blaming Kilby for backing his manager's judgement?
Hippocroccapig wrote:I think you will find your the one talking drivel-Yes Jay turned Southampton down and yes Kilby accepted bid-do some research-Remco Van der schaff 1 game-wages over a million pound,who's faults that then ????
claret777 wrote:Please - you talk rubbish man - Both us and Blackpool were forced to sell players that wanted away - have you any proof that Jay rejected a move to Saints in December? has Jay ever come out and said this, did Southampton, did BFC? No thought not.
Hippocroccapig wrote:Anti Kilby and Board drivel ????
claretmeandyou wrote:More Tetley anti-Kilby and the borad drivel.
Pardon me if I am wrong but isn't this the same Paul Fletcher who said before the start of last season and before the football club "pulled the rug from under Eddie's feet by selling our top players as he was preparing for the forth-coming season with them" that "Burnley would finish in the Top Six of the Championship." Well may I remind Mr Paul Fletcher along with Barry Kilby and the rest of the Burnley board where the club actually finished as if they need reminding.- 13th. That's at least seven places below where he predicted we would finish providing that we finished 6th. We lost more games than we won last season and finished more than 12 points off the play-off places and now he is expecting us to believe him when he says that : " The Bolton game will be a sell-out ! " For starters if he had done his homework he would know that when we played Judas's team in the Carling Cup it was nowhere near a "sell-out" and it won't be on the 18th. August.2012 either. NOT at those ridiculous prices of £31 for a "Gold" match. The only thing that he is right on is that Judas will need his " tin hat on. " Not much news coming out of Turf Moor regarding the Football University these days. Perhaps it is costing the club more than they antisipated and part of the money that they received for Jay Rodreguiz is going to fund that as well as balancing the books. I wait with baited breath to see who is going to be our next big summer signing from the Blue Square Premier League.
Bore off
Your obviously not clued up and are taken in by everything the club tells you.Blackpool 20 mill in profit,Burnley 4 mill in debt after one season in prem.Bpool make 7 changes near end of season and beat leaders Southampton 3-0.We are that short we put kids on bench.Our backroom staff has been decimated.Kilby said at the time,the money from the prem will keep the club going for the next ten years,2 year on we are 4 mill in debt and Kilby said we may have to sell our stars to survive.Bpool tried their utmost to keep their prize assett Charlie Adam,Kilby tried his hardest to sell ours,Jay,who turned Southampton down despite Kilby agreeing a fee.Hows about we take a leaf out of Blackpool's book on how to run a football club.As for the new chairmen-Have we heard them saying they are pumping any cash into the club with their own cash as die-hard Burnley fans ? No,Businessmen dont make their cash by spending it,hence why they are rich.
We had to pay off Laws (whose contract length was admittedly an error) and also pay off Bournrmouth for Howe.
Also if memory serves wasn't it Paul Fletcher not Kilby that said the money from the PL will keep us going 10 years?
Take a leaf out of Blackpool's book? Really? I think you will find that they will be kicking off in the same league as us next season and that Holloway has been told he must seriously trim his squad, so they will likely suffer 'second season syndrome'.
When all said and done, the only thing I will blame the board for is giving Brian Laws such a long contract, as ultimately this cost us financially, and also probably cost us the chance of a good season after our drop from the PL.
Would you prefer a takeover by a clueless foreign owner as has happened down the M65? No? Well unless you have several millions to invest then, like me, you should be content with what we have - stability and a board full of BFC fans who have the best interests of the club at heart.
Ok - show me your research that PROVES Jay turned down Southampton, do you have any kind of statement from either a) Jay b) BFC or c) Southampton? If the answer is no then bore off with your conspiracy theories.
ton there's another 2 for you.
I will type this slowly as I know you can't read very fast - WHO SIGNED EASTON AND ECKERSLEY - when you work it out, you will have your answer of who is to blame.
Kilby merely backed the judgement of his manager, as he should do - if the players then turn out to be garbage then the fault lies at the manager's door, not the chairman (Unless you have an ulterior motive of course).
Must go, I live next door to Jimmy Anderson and he wants to have a bowl at me - cheerio.
Wow, your evidence is just too strong.
So, I will ask again - do you blame Kilby for employing Owen Coyle?
claret777
says...
1:47pm Tue 19 Jun 12
Hippocroccapig wrote:Yes-cost us millions-do the maths.
claret777 wrote:ANSWER THE QUESTION - do you blame Kilby for employing Coyle, given that you have just slagged off three of his signings - Easton, Eckersley and Remco VDS?
Hippocroccapig wrote:Was waiting for that,i can read your mind now,as Kilby stated(do your research)Coyle just happened by chance over a game of golf up in Scotland-it was an absolute fluke how Coyle came about and as Kilby stated,never in his dreams did he think Coyle would get us into the Premiership.
claret777 wrote:Tee hee OK then, so what you are actually saying is that you have PROVED me wrong by making up that you live next door to Jay?
Hippocroccapig wrote:Touched a raw nerve i see.yes,had quite a few barbies with Jay thanks,dont see your gripe(apart from being proven wrong of course)So let's blame the managers not the people who chose them to manage the club ? Another deluded shareholder,must go,has Luke O'Neills moving into Jay's old house tomorrow.
claret777 wrote:Ha ha ha ha ha ha - of course you did Fantasy boy, did he used to invite you in for cosy chats about his professional career, and did you get invited to the Rodriguez family barbeques?
Hippocroccapig wrote:You really are chomping at the bit,i used to live next door to Jay,so therein lies your answer.Eckersley,Eas
claret777 wrote:Remco VDS was signed by OWEN COYLE so therefore it was his fault, are you seriously blaming Kilby for backing his manager's judgement?
Hippocroccapig wrote:I think you will find your the one talking drivel-Yes Jay turned Southampton down and yes Kilby accepted bid-do some research-Remco Van der schaff 1 game-wages over a million pound,who's faults that then ????
claret777 wrote:Please - you talk rubbish man - Both us and Blackpool were forced to sell players that wanted away - have you any proof that Jay rejected a move to Saints in December? has Jay ever come out and said this, did Southampton, did BFC? No thought not.
Hippocroccapig wrote:Anti Kilby and Board drivel ????
claretmeandyou wrote:More Tetley anti-Kilby and the borad drivel.
Pardon me if I am wrong but isn't this the same Paul Fletcher who said before the start of last season and before the football club "pulled the rug from under Eddie's feet by selling our top players as he was preparing for the forth-coming season with them" that "Burnley would finish in the Top Six of the Championship." Well may I remind Mr Paul Fletcher along with Barry Kilby and the rest of the Burnley board where the club actually finished as if they need reminding.- 13th. That's at least seven places below where he predicted we would finish providing that we finished 6th. We lost more games than we won last season and finished more than 12 points off the play-off places and now he is expecting us to believe him when he says that : " The Bolton game will be a sell-out ! " For starters if he had done his homework he would know that when we played Judas's team in the Carling Cup it was nowhere near a "sell-out" and it won't be on the 18th. August.2012 either. NOT at those ridiculous prices of £31 for a "Gold" match. The only thing that he is right on is that Judas will need his " tin hat on. " Not much news coming out of Turf Moor regarding the Football University these days. Perhaps it is costing the club more than they antisipated and part of the money that they received for Jay Rodreguiz is going to fund that as well as balancing the books. I wait with baited breath to see who is going to be our next big summer signing from the Blue Square Premier League.
Bore off
Your obviously not clued up and are taken in by everything the club tells you.Blackpool 20 mill in profit,Burnley 4 mill in debt after one season in prem.Bpool make 7 changes near end of season and beat leaders Southampton 3-0.We are that short we put kids on bench.Our backroom staff has been decimated.Kilby said at the time,the money from the prem will keep the club going for the next ten years,2 year on we are 4 mill in debt and Kilby said we may have to sell our stars to survive.Bpool tried their utmost to keep their prize assett Charlie Adam,Kilby tried his hardest to sell ours,Jay,who turned Southampton down despite Kilby agreeing a fee.Hows about we take a leaf out of Blackpool's book on how to run a football club.As for the new chairmen-Have we heard them saying they are pumping any cash into the club with their own cash as die-hard Burnley fans ? No,Businessmen dont make their cash by spending it,hence why they are rich.
We had to pay off Laws (whose contract length was admittedly an error) and also pay off Bournrmouth for Howe.
Also if memory serves wasn't it Paul Fletcher not Kilby that said the money from the PL will keep us going 10 years?
Take a leaf out of Blackpool's book? Really? I think you will find that they will be kicking off in the same league as us next season and that Holloway has been told he must seriously trim his squad, so they will likely suffer 'second season syndrome'.
When all said and done, the only thing I will blame the board for is giving Brian Laws such a long contract, as ultimately this cost us financially, and also probably cost us the chance of a good season after our drop from the PL.
Would you prefer a takeover by a clueless foreign owner as has happened down the M65? No? Well unless you have several millions to invest then, like me, you should be content with what we have - stability and a board full of BFC fans who have the best interests of the club at heart.
Ok - show me your research that PROVES Jay turned down Southampton, do you have any kind of statement from either a) Jay b) BFC or c) Southampton? If the answer is no then bore off with your conspiracy theories.
ton there's another 2 for you.
I will type this slowly as I know you can't read very fast - WHO SIGNED EASTON AND ECKERSLEY - when you work it out, you will have your answer of who is to blame.
Kilby merely backed the judgement of his manager, as he should do - if the players then turn out to be garbage then the fault lies at the manager's door, not the chairman (Unless you have an ulterior motive of course).
Must go, I live next door to Jimmy Anderson and he wants to have a bowl at me - cheerio.
Wow, your evidence is just too strong.
So, I will ask again - do you blame Kilby for employing Owen Coyle?
claret777
says...
1:53pm Tue 19 Jun 12
claret777 wrote:I like how ive to answer all the questions,yet,you cant explain where over 100 million disappeared ? Work out how many millions have been squandered and then come back.As you keep stating(MISTAKES)tha
Hippocroccapig wrote:Yes-cost us millions-do the maths.
claret777 wrote:ANSWER THE QUESTION - do you blame Kilby for employing Coyle, given that you have just slagged off three of his signings - Easton, Eckersley and Remco VDS?
Hippocroccapig wrote:Was waiting for that,i can read your mind now,as Kilby stated(do your research)Coyle just happened by chance over a game of golf up in Scotland-it was an absolute fluke how Coyle came about and as Kilby stated,never in his dreams did he think Coyle would get us into the Premiership.
claret777 wrote:Tee hee OK then, so what you are actually saying is that you have PROVED me wrong by making up that you live next door to Jay?
Hippocroccapig wrote:Touched a raw nerve i see.yes,had quite a few barbies with Jay thanks,dont see your gripe(apart from being proven wrong of course)So let's blame the managers not the people who chose them to manage the club ? Another deluded shareholder,must go,has Luke O'Neills moving into Jay's old house tomorrow.
claret777 wrote:Ha ha ha ha ha ha - of course you did Fantasy boy, did he used to invite you in for cosy chats about his professional career, and did you get invited to the Rodriguez family barbeques?
Hippocroccapig wrote:You really are chomping at the bit,i used to live next door to Jay,so therein lies your answer.Eckersley,Eas
claret777 wrote:Remco VDS was signed by OWEN COYLE so therefore it was his fault, are you seriously blaming Kilby for backing his manager's judgement?
Hippocroccapig wrote:I think you will find your the one talking drivel-Yes Jay turned Southampton down and yes Kilby accepted bid-do some research-Remco Van der schaff 1 game-wages over a million pound,who's faults that then ????
claret777 wrote:Please - you talk rubbish man - Both us and Blackpool were forced to sell players that wanted away - have you any proof that Jay rejected a move to Saints in December? has Jay ever come out and said this, did Southampton, did BFC? No thought not.
Hippocroccapig wrote:Anti Kilby and Board drivel ????
claretmeandyou wrote:More Tetley anti-Kilby and the borad drivel.
Pardon me if I am wrong but isn't this the same Paul Fletcher who said before the start of last season and before the football club "pulled the rug from under Eddie's feet by selling our top players as he was preparing for the forth-coming season with them" that "Burnley would finish in the Top Six of the Championship." Well may I remind Mr Paul Fletcher along with Barry Kilby and the rest of the Burnley board where the club actually finished as if they need reminding.- 13th. That's at least seven places below where he predicted we would finish providing that we finished 6th. We lost more games than we won last season and finished more than 12 points off the play-off places and now he is expecting us to believe him when he says that : " The Bolton game will be a sell-out ! " For starters if he had done his homework he would know that when we played Judas's team in the Carling Cup it was nowhere near a "sell-out" and it won't be on the 18th. August.2012 either. NOT at those ridiculous prices of £31 for a "Gold" match. The only thing that he is right on is that Judas will need his " tin hat on. " Not much news coming out of Turf Moor regarding the Football University these days. Perhaps it is costing the club more than they antisipated and part of the money that they received for Jay Rodreguiz is going to fund that as well as balancing the books. I wait with baited breath to see who is going to be our next big summer signing from the Blue Square Premier League.
Bore off
Your obviously not clued up and are taken in by everything the club tells you.Blackpool 20 mill in profit,Burnley 4 mill in debt after one season in prem.Bpool make 7 changes near end of season and beat leaders Southampton 3-0.We are that short we put kids on bench.Our backroom staff has been decimated.Kilby said at the time,the money from the prem will keep the club going for the next ten years,2 year on we are 4 mill in debt and Kilby said we may have to sell our stars to survive.Bpool tried their utmost to keep their prize assett Charlie Adam,Kilby tried his hardest to sell ours,Jay,who turned Southampton down despite Kilby agreeing a fee.Hows about we take a leaf out of Blackpool's book on how to run a football club.As for the new chairmen-Have we heard them saying they are pumping any cash into the club with their own cash as die-hard Burnley fans ? No,Businessmen dont make their cash by spending it,hence why they are rich.
We had to pay off Laws (whose contract length was admittedly an error) and also pay off Bournrmouth for Howe.
Also if memory serves wasn't it Paul Fletcher not Kilby that said the money from the PL will keep us going 10 years?
Take a leaf out of Blackpool's book? Really? I think you will find that they will be kicking off in the same league as us next season and that Holloway has been told he must seriously trim his squad, so they will likely suffer 'second season syndrome'.
When all said and done, the only thing I will blame the board for is giving Brian Laws such a long contract, as ultimately this cost us financially, and also probably cost us the chance of a good season after our drop from the PL.
Would you prefer a takeover by a clueless foreign owner as has happened down the M65? No? Well unless you have several millions to invest then, like me, you should be content with what we have - stability and a board full of BFC fans who have the best interests of the club at heart.
Ok - show me your research that PROVES Jay turned down Southampton, do you have any kind of statement from either a) Jay b) BFC or c) Southampton? If the answer is no then bore off with your conspiracy theories.
ton there's another 2 for you.
I will type this slowly as I know you can't read very fast - WHO SIGNED EASTON AND ECKERSLEY - when you work it out, you will have your answer of who is to blame.
Kilby merely backed the judgement of his manager, as he should do - if the players then turn out to be garbage then the fault lies at the manager's door, not the chairman (Unless you have an ulterior motive of course).
Must go, I live next door to Jimmy Anderson and he wants to have a bowl at me - cheerio.
Wow, your evidence is just too strong.
So, I will ask again - do you blame Kilby for employing Owen Coyle?
t's a clue for you.
midas
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1:55pm Tue 19 Jun 12
claret777 wrote:Stan Ternent LMFAO!!!!!! I see the footballing world has been beating down his door to get him back into management! LMFAO again!!!
Hippocroccapig wrote: Mate you are seriously deluded - I have already said I agree that Laws was the wrong manager, as for his signings, I do have a degree of sympathy with Cort because of the timing (The last week in January) and we needed bodies in, particularly defensively. History will tell that Cort was poor and a waste of a wage - did well with Jack Cork and Danny Fox though just to balance things out. So, are you blaming the board for employing both Laws AND Coyle? Every manager at every club makes poor signings, but you can't blame the board for these, any club's signings are purely down to the manager wanting these players and the board then backing the manager's decision. Do you have a suggestion who the board should have emplioyed instead of Laws by the way? Hull City appointed Ian Dowie at around the same time and look at the problems that Wolves had in appointing a manager after they sacked Mick McCarthy - the simple facts are no manager wants a relegation on their CV. In fact the only credible candidates that I can remember after Coyle left were Lee Clark (Since sacked by by Huddersfield); Simon Grayson (Since sacked by Leeds) and Sean O'Driscoll (Since sacked by Donny Rovers). So OK then Einstein which of these failed managers would you have appointed?So now you have sympathy with Cort(which also means sympathy with Laws because he signed him ? And you call me deluded ? Im sure if the board had any ambition to stay in the top flight they could have paid compensation to a club,let's see who could have got the job instead of employing a manager who got sacked with Sheff Wed when they were in bottom 3 of Championship.Paul Lambert(Coyle was unproven)Stan Ternent(would have been ideal to give the players and fans a massive lift(he could have also made big name signings like in the past)O'Driscoll(yes he got sacked eventually)but come on,Doncaster Rovers(Fergie would struggle to keep them up)and there's lots lots more who we could have got.Laws appointment just didnt make any sense apart from not having to pay any compensation for him and an ex player,also Steve Coppell and Alan Curbishley were out there as well.
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Steve "I lasted how many days in my last job before quitting" Coppell and Alan "I want unlimited funds and am not going north of Watford" Curishley" you sir are a comedian!
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I suppose we could have gone for the now assistant at Nottingham Forest - another thats been parachuted into a top Premiership job!
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Why would Lambert want to leave a club like Norwich to come to Burnley?
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Who else have you got lined up - Benitez? Keegan? Souness? Reid? or any of the other out of work managers on the merry go round.
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Doorbells gone its....Brian Flynn wanting a round of golf.
Hippocroccapig
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2:05pm Tue 19 Jun 12
claret777 wrote:OK, so you blame Kilby for appointing Coyle because his signings "Cost us millions".
Hippocroccapig wrote:Yes-cost us millions-do the maths.
claret777 wrote:ANSWER THE QUESTION - do you blame Kilby for employing Coyle, given that you have just slagged off three of his signings - Easton, Eckersley and Remco VDS?
Hippocroccapig wrote:Was waiting for that,i can read your mind now,as Kilby stated(do your research)Coyle just happened by chance over a game of golf up in Scotland-it was an absolute fluke how Coyle came about and as Kilby stated,never in his dreams did he think Coyle would get us into the Premiership.
claret777 wrote:Tee hee OK then, so what you are actually saying is that you have PROVED me wrong by making up that you live next door to Jay?
Hippocroccapig wrote:Touched a raw nerve i see.yes,had quite a few barbies with Jay thanks,dont see your gripe(apart from being proven wrong of course)So let's blame the managers not the people who chose them to manage the club ? Another deluded shareholder,must go,has Luke O'Neills moving into Jay's old house tomorrow.
claret777 wrote:Ha ha ha ha ha ha - of course you did Fantasy boy, did he used to invite you in for cosy chats about his professional career, and did you get invited to the Rodriguez family barbeques?
Hippocroccapig wrote:You really are chomping at the bit,i used to live next door to Jay,so therein lies your answer.Eckersley,Eas
claret777 wrote:Remco VDS was signed by OWEN COYLE so therefore it was his fault, are you seriously blaming Kilby for backing his manager's judgement?
Hippocroccapig wrote:I think you will find your the one talking drivel-Yes Jay turned Southampton down and yes Kilby accepted bid-do some research-Remco Van der schaff 1 game-wages over a million pound,who's faults that then ????
claret777 wrote:Please - you talk rubbish man - Both us and Blackpool were forced to sell players that wanted away - have you any proof that Jay rejected a move to Saints in December? has Jay ever come out and said this, did Southampton, did BFC? No thought not.
Hippocroccapig wrote:Anti Kilby and Board drivel ????
claretmeandyou wrote:More Tetley anti-Kilby and the borad drivel.
Pardon me if I am wrong but isn't this the same Paul Fletcher who said before the start of last season and before the football club "pulled the rug from under Eddie's feet by selling our top players as he was preparing for the forth-coming season with them" that "Burnley would finish in the Top Six of the Championship." Well may I remind Mr Paul Fletcher along with Barry Kilby and the rest of the Burnley board where the club actually finished as if they need reminding.- 13th. That's at least seven places below where he predicted we would finish providing that we finished 6th. We lost more games than we won last season and finished more than 12 points off the play-off places and now he is expecting us to believe him when he says that : " The Bolton game will be a sell-out ! " For starters if he had done his homework he would know that when we played Judas's team in the Carling Cup it was nowhere near a "sell-out" and it won't be on the 18th. August.2012 either. NOT at those ridiculous prices of £31 for a "Gold" match. The only thing that he is right on is that Judas will need his " tin hat on. " Not much news coming out of Turf Moor regarding the Football University these days. Perhaps it is costing the club more than they antisipated and part of the money that they received for Jay Rodreguiz is going to fund that as well as balancing the books. I wait with baited breath to see who is going to be our next big summer signing from the Blue Square Premier League.
Bore off
Your obviously not clued up and are taken in by everything the club tells you.Blackpool 20 mill in profit,Burnley 4 mill in debt after one season in prem.Bpool make 7 changes near end of season and beat leaders Southampton 3-0.We are that short we put kids on bench.Our backroom staff has been decimated.Kilby said at the time,the money from the prem will keep the club going for the next ten years,2 year on we are 4 mill in debt and Kilby said we may have to sell our stars to survive.Bpool tried their utmost to keep their prize assett Charlie Adam,Kilby tried his hardest to sell ours,Jay,who turned Southampton down despite Kilby agreeing a fee.Hows about we take a leaf out of Blackpool's book on how to run a football club.As for the new chairmen-Have we heard them saying they are pumping any cash into the club with their own cash as die-hard Burnley fans ? No,Businessmen dont make their cash by spending it,hence why they are rich.
We had to pay off Laws (whose contract length was admittedly an error) and also pay off Bournrmouth for Howe.
Also if memory serves wasn't it Paul Fletcher not Kilby that said the money from the PL will keep us going 10 years?
Take a leaf out of Blackpool's book? Really? I think you will find that they will be kicking off in the same league as us next season and that Holloway has been told he must seriously trim his squad, so they will likely suffer 'second season syndrome'.
When all said and done, the only thing I will blame the board for is giving Brian Laws such a long contract, as ultimately this cost us financially, and also probably cost us the chance of a good season after our drop from the PL.
Would you prefer a takeover by a clueless foreign owner as has happened down the M65? No? Well unless you have several millions to invest then, like me, you should be content with what we have - stability and a board full of BFC fans who have the best interests of the club at heart.
Ok - show me your research that PROVES Jay turned down Southampton, do you have any kind of statement from either a) Jay b) BFC or c) Southampton? If the answer is no then bore off with your conspiracy theories.
ton there's another 2 for you.
I will type this slowly as I know you can't read very fast - WHO SIGNED EASTON AND ECKERSLEY - when you work it out, you will have your answer of who is to blame.
Kilby merely backed the judgement of his manager, as he should do - if the players then turn out to be garbage then the fault lies at the manager's door, not the chairman (Unless you have an ulterior motive of course).
Must go, I live next door to Jimmy Anderson and he wants to have a bowl at me - cheerio.
Wow, your evidence is just too strong.
So, I will ask again - do you blame Kilby for employing Owen Coyle?
My counter-argument to this is without Owen Coyle we wouldn't have a) got promoted and had those two great cup runs b) Had the fantastic (mostly) season in the Premier League and more importantly c) Got millions of pounds in the first place because we got promoted.
This conversation is like having a battle of wits with an unarmed man
claret777
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2:27pm Tue 19 Jun 12
Your counter-argument is invalid.So now your saying we wouldnt have got promoted and would not have had those two cup runs ? The millions from the prem(that's history,it's all disappeared)Blackpoo
l(20 mill still in profit)altho that's not our boards fault,blame Laws or Coyle ? Ok,back to the start of your reply Mystic Meg.A-We would have still got promoted and won both cups with another manager and not wasted millions on players we signed under Coyle.You see now it's got to the stage where you are saying what would and wouldnt have happened,that's called delusion tee hee
l(20 mill still in profit)altho that's not our boards fault,blame Laws or Coyle ? Ok,back to the start of your reply Mystic Meg.A-We would have still got promoted and won both cups with another manager and not wasted millions on players we signed under Coyle.You see now it's got to the stage where you are saying what would and wouldnt have happened,that's called delusion tee hee
Hippocroccapig
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2:45pm Tue 19 Jun 12
OK I am getting a little worried about you now....
What I am actually saying is that appointing Owen Coyle as manager was the sole reason we got promoted to the Premier League - nothing more, nothing less - the majority of his signings and the leadership the lying Judas provided were the catalyst for our successes that season.
You honestly think we would have got promoted and had those two cup runs under another manager?
Would this fictitious manager have signed Chris Eagles, or Martin Paterson or Steven Thompson or Kev McDonald or loaned Russell Anderson - all players who were pivotal in our promotion season?
What I am actually saying is that appointing Owen Coyle as manager was the sole reason we got promoted to the Premier League - nothing more, nothing less - the majority of his signings and the leadership the lying Judas provided were the catalyst for our successes that season.
You honestly think we would have got promoted and had those two cup runs under another manager?
Would this fictitious manager have signed Chris Eagles, or Martin Paterson or Steven Thompson or Kev McDonald or loaned Russell Anderson - all players who were pivotal in our promotion season?
ClaretSince94
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2:55pm Tue 19 Jun 12
claret777 wrote:You do realise these profits announced by Blackpool are from their season in the Premiership, not last season in the Championship? We announced profits of £14.4 million for our season in the Premiership for the record, so the difference isn't huge.
Your counter-argument is invalid.So now your saying we wouldnt have got promoted and would not have had those two cup runs ? The millions from the prem(that's history,it's all disappeared)Blackpoo l(20 mill still in profit)altho that's not our boards fault,blame Laws or Coyle ? Ok,back to the start of your reply Mystic Meg.A-We would have still got promoted and won both cups with another manager and not wasted millions on players we signed under Coyle.You see now it's got to the stage where you are saying what would and wouldnt have happened,that's called delusion tee hee
So your whole arguement is based on information you've failed to understand, no surprise given your obvious mental deficiencies.
I do love the back-of-the-fag-pack
et calculations people like yourself do - you show no understanding of how football clubs spend money, the costs involved etc. A club doesn't just function on transfer fees and player wages, you've got signing on fees, agents fees, compensation, tax, ground maintenance, pitch maintenance, training ground maintenance, coaching staff wages, scouting staff wages, club staff wages and so much more besides. People like you don't think about that, you don't understand the "£60 million prize" of winning the Play-Offs isn't just a cheque that's handed over, that's TV money, parachute payments (some we have yet to receive) etc. doled out over time. To summarise, you have no understanding of the kinds of income or expenditure a football club has and as such all your witless and poorly reasoned criticisms, whining and arguements count for squat.
claret777
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3:07pm Tue 19 Jun 12
ClaretSince94 wrote:Here we go,he's Carol Vorderman now zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
claret777 wrote:You do realise these profits announced by Blackpool are from their season in the Premiership, not last season in the Championship? We announced profits of £14.4 million for our season in the Premiership for the record, so the difference isn't huge.
Your counter-argument is invalid.So now your saying we wouldnt have got promoted and would not have had those two cup runs ? The millions from the prem(that's history,it's all disappeared)Blackpoo l(20 mill still in profit)altho that's not our boards fault,blame Laws or Coyle ? Ok,back to the start of your reply Mystic Meg.A-We would have still got promoted and won both cups with another manager and not wasted millions on players we signed under Coyle.You see now it's got to the stage where you are saying what would and wouldnt have happened,that's called delusion tee hee
So your whole arguement is based on information you've failed to understand, no surprise given your obvious mental deficiencies.
I do love the back-of-the-fag-pack
et calculations people like yourself do - you show no understanding of how football clubs spend money, the costs involved etc. A club doesn't just function on transfer fees and player wages, you've got signing on fees, agents fees, compensation, tax, ground maintenance, pitch maintenance, training ground maintenance, coaching staff wages, scouting staff wages, club staff wages and so much more besides. People like you don't think about that, you don't understand the "£60 million prize" of winning the Play-Offs isn't just a cheque that's handed over, that's TV money, parachute payments (some we have yet to receive) etc. doled out over time. To summarise, you have no understanding of the kinds of income or expenditure a football club has and as such all your witless and poorly reasoned criticisms, whining and arguements count for squat.
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Blackpool one of biggest squads(play offs)Burnley smallest squad(bottom half of table)Oh and we have cut our staff but still pay more out to the staff(yeh,dosent add up does it)
midas
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3:13pm Tue 19 Jun 12
you are starting to sound ominously like Tetly/claretmeandyou
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Go and read the accounts, try to understand "income and expenditure" and "turnover" and then come back and talk to the grown ups
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Oh the bells gone again, i wonder which famous footballer has come round this time!
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Go and read the accounts, try to understand "income and expenditure" and "turnover" and then come back and talk to the grown ups
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Oh the bells gone again, i wonder which famous footballer has come round this time!
Hippocroccapig
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3:15pm Tue 19 Jun 12
Sorry about the delay - I have just been having a threesome with Marilyn Monroe and Jessica Rabbit.......
claret777
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3:17pm Tue 19 Jun 12
midas wrote:Oh,sorry,tell you what,let's just agree with you and everything you say,hope that makes you feel better.And believe it or not,tomorrow im having lunch with Terry Venables and Gordan Cowans,that's if it's ok with you ?
you are starting to sound ominously like Tetly/claretmeandyou
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Go and read the accounts, try to understand "income and expenditure" and "turnover" and then come back and talk to the grown ups
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Oh the bells gone again, i wonder which famous footballer has come round this time!
ClaretSince94
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3:17pm Tue 19 Jun 12
I'm sure that makes sense to you when you read it back but any chance of a translation for those of us with IQ's above 40.
To re-state my point, Blackpool's £20 million profit is from their Premiership season, not last year's Championship season. They are now having to make cuts and function within a tighter budget as we did. I bet when they publish their accounts for this season just gone they will have recorded a loss.
To re-state my point, Blackpool's £20 million profit is from their Premiership season, not last year's Championship season. They are now having to make cuts and function within a tighter budget as we did. I bet when they publish their accounts for this season just gone they will have recorded a loss.
claret777
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3:31pm Tue 19 Jun 12
ClaretSince94 wrote:Mmmm,i bet they are still in profit at the end of next season,there's no disputing the board have done well,just should have been a few millions better
I'm sure that makes sense to you when you read it back but any chance of a translation for those of us with IQ's above 40.
To re-state my point, Blackpool's £20 million profit is from their Premiership season, not last year's Championship season. They are now having to make cuts and function within a tighter budget as we did. I bet when they publish their accounts for this season just gone they will have recorded a loss.
vintageclaret
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3:49pm Tue 19 Jun 12
Phew! Can anyone shut those two above up it's like having the wife on the blog?
2 BIGGER questions: How many do you think we'll beat the Trotters and Chicken Pluckers by in both games and how far above them will the Clarets be at the end of the season?
Got to go Cheryl's at the door wanting me to adjust her thong (I think that's what she said)
2 BIGGER questions: How many do you think we'll beat the Trotters and Chicken Pluckers by in both games and how far above them will the Clarets be at the end of the season?
Got to go Cheryl's at the door wanting me to adjust her thong (I think that's what she said)
midas
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3:53pm Tue 19 Jun 12
claret777 wrote:Its as likely as you having any sort of "inside info" of JRod!
midas wrote: you are starting to sound ominously like Tetly/claretmeandyou !!! . Go and read the accounts, try to understand "income and expenditure" and "turnover" and then come back and talk to the grown ups . Oh the bells gone again, i wonder which famous footballer has come round this time!Oh,sorry,tell you what,let's just agree with you and everything you say,hope that makes you feel better.And believe it or not,tomorrow im having lunch with Terry Venables and Gordan Cowans,that's if it's ok with you ?
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You don't have to agree but actually having read the accounts before you start talking about missing millions may go some way to supporting your rather tenious arguments.
Keen O to Get Kean Out
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3:54pm Tue 19 Jun 12
vintageclaret wrote:i think u lot will hammer us and do the double, we will go down and end up in the hands of balliff and debt collectors - inland revenue will serve bankrupcy order,, then you will follow suit next year, end of our rivalry im afraid,....... seriuosly
Phew! Can anyone shut those two above up it's like having the wife on the blog? 2 BIGGER questions: How many do you think we'll beat the Trotters and Chicken Pluckers by in both games and how far above them will the Clarets be at the end of the season? Got to go Cheryl's at the door wanting me to adjust her thong (I think that's what she said)
vintageclaret
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5:18pm Tue 19 Jun 12
Keen O to Get Kean Out wrote:In all honesty and as a true fan of the game having enjoyed many, many years of rivalry with BRFC I hope for the first two points about the double. Secondly, I sincerely would not like to see the forecats about bailiffs etc happening and certainly not the last part.
vintageclaret wrote: Phew! Can anyone shut those two above up it's like having the wife on the blog? 2 BIGGER questions: How many do you think we'll beat the Trotters and Chicken Pluckers by in both games and how far above them will the Clarets be at the end of the season? Got to go Cheryl's at the door wanting me to adjust her thong (I think that's what she said)i think u lot will hammer us and do the double, we will go down and end up in the hands of balliff and debt collectors - inland revenue will serve bankrupcy order,, then you will follow suit next year, end of our rivalry im afraid,....... seriuosly
Yes it's pre-season your club is in turmoil and following relegation a lot of BRFC fans will be feeling down, but at 3pm 18th Aug the adrenaline will start flowing again.
We BFC fans have been through the wringer over the years, Blackpool had it, Preston are having it and perhaps it's just BRFC's turn. All part of the never ending story of supporting a club.
merlinrabbit
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7:29pm Tue 19 Jun 12
ClaretSince94 wrote:You need to tell the regular Clarets who camp out on Rovers articles, often making the first post of the day. Probably rovers fans are just playing the same game because normally there arent any clarets posting under Claret articles. Im surprised the writer of this article is suggesting it will be a full house. Listening to Claret fans talking about Rovers, I thought T'Turf was always a sell out!!
Keen O to Get Kean Out wrote:Venkys saved you from financial difficulty and the boring hoof ball of Big Sam, look how you treat them!!!
owen coyle did burnley wonders - got them in the PL and 20million quid,, and this is how you treat him !!!
Back in your cave Rovers "supporter", this is a Burnley article, not the latest report on your fans pathetically whinging to every possible authority.
Keen O to Get Kean Out
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10:11pm Tue 19 Jun 12
vintageclaret wrote:i agree its reality i know BFC have had trouble and preston the same but im afraid this is seriuosly a lot worse, we knew we have been punching above our weight, but when we come to Turf, you will see real amatuer team, poor tactics and ill put money on we will be relegated.. if you knew half of what Kean and Venkys have done you would agree, A rel shame we have been bought by absolute no hopers,, at least you management know the game , our owners bought the club and didnt realise we could get relegated !!!!
Keen O to Get Kean Out wrote:In all honesty and as a true fan of the game having enjoyed many, many years of rivalry with BRFC I hope for the first two points about the double. Secondly, I sincerely would not like to see the forecats about bailiffs etc happening and certainly not the last part.
vintageclaret wrote: Phew! Can anyone shut those two above up it's like having the wife on the blog? 2 BIGGER questions: How many do you think we'll beat the Trotters and Chicken Pluckers by in both games and how far above them will the Clarets be at the end of the season? Got to go Cheryl's at the door wanting me to adjust her thong (I think that's what she said)i think u lot will hammer us and do the double, we will go down and end up in the hands of balliff and debt collectors - inland revenue will serve bankrupcy order,, then you will follow suit next year, end of our rivalry im afraid,....... seriuosly
Yes it's pre-season your club is in turmoil and following relegation a lot of BRFC fans will be feeling down, but at 3pm 18th Aug the adrenaline will start flowing again.
We BFC fans have been through the wringer over the years, Blackpool had it, Preston are having it and perhaps it's just BRFC's turn. All part of the never ending story of supporting a club.
claretmeandyou
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12:15am Wed 20 Jun 12
Yes Blackpool will be kicking off in the same league as the Clarets next season after losing in the play-off final but they will be doing so with the backing of at least 10,000 season ticket holders and they have announced plans to upgrade their training facilities and they will also have the money from the play-offs and play-off final at their disposal. How many season tickets have we sold up to now and where are the ground improvements that Barry Kilby announced in a blaze of publicity and actually how much is Eddie Howe going to have at his disposal to invest in the team in order to improve our pathetic 13th position from last time around? 22,500 home gates in the Premiership compared to 13,500 now in the Championship and they will fall again this season if the team has a poor start and with the New Ticketing Prices just announced for non-season ticket holders. There is no getting away from the fact that having waited 33yrs to get back into the top flight of English football all the football club could do was last one season in the top flight. Regarding Jay Rodreguiz were negotiations even opened up with his agent and himself in order to get the lad to extend his stay at the Turf? I very much doubt it. What if he had turned around and said to the club that although the club had accepted a bid from Southampton for 7 million " He didn't want to go anywhere but stay and help the club get promotion" . How would the club have responded then I wonder ?
claretmeandyou
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12:15am Wed 20 Jun 12
Yes Blackpool will be kicking off in the same league as the Clarets next season after losing in the play-off final but they will be doing so with the backing of at least 10,000 season ticket holders and they have announced plans to upgrade their training facilities and they will also have the money from the play-offs and play-off final at their disposal. How many season tickets have we sold up to now and where are the ground improvements that Barry Kilby announced in a blaze of publicity and actually how much is Eddie Howe going to have at his disposal to invest in the team in order to improve our pathetic 13th position from last time around? 22,500 home gates in the Premiership compared to 13,500 now in the Championship and they will fall again this season if the team has a poor start and with the New Ticketing Prices just announced for non-season ticket holders. There is no getting away from the fact that having waited 33yrs to get back into the top flight of English football all the football club could do was last one season in the top flight. Regarding Jay Rodreguiz were negotiations even opened up with his agent and himself in order to get the lad to extend his stay at the Turf? I very much doubt it. What if he had turned around and said to the club that although the club had accepted a bid from Southampton for 7 million " He didn't want to go anywhere but stay and help the club get promotion" . How would the club have responded then I wonder ?
claretmeandyou
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12:15am Wed 20 Jun 12
Yes Blackpool will be kicking off in the same league as the Clarets next season after losing in the play-off final but they will be doing so with the backing of at least 10,000 season ticket holders and they have announced plans to upgrade their training facilities and they will also have the money from the play-offs and play-off final at their disposal. How many season tickets have we sold up to now and where are the ground improvements that Barry Kilby announced in a blaze of publicity and actually how much is Eddie Howe going to have at his disposal to invest in the team in order to improve our pathetic 13th position from last time around? 22,500 home gates in the Premiership compared to 13,500 now in the Championship and they will fall again this season if the team has a poor start and with the New Ticketing Prices just announced for non-season ticket holders. There is no getting away from the fact that having waited 33yrs to get back into the top flight of English football all the football club could do was last one season in the top flight. Regarding Jay Rodreguiz were negotiations even opened up with his agent and himself in order to get the lad to extend his stay at the Turf? I very much doubt it. What if he had turned around and said to the club that although the club had accepted a bid from Southampton for 7 million " He didn't want to go anywhere but stay and help the club get promotion" . How would the club have responded then I wonder ?
Hippocroccapig
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9:21am Wed 20 Jun 12
claretmeandyou wrote:I believe we have sold upwards of 9k season tickets thus far.
Yes Blackpool will be kicking off in the same league as the Clarets next season after losing in the play-off final but they will be doing so with the backing of at least 10,000 season ticket holders and they have announced plans to upgrade their training facilities and they will also have the money from the play-offs and play-off final at their disposal. How many season tickets have we sold up to now and where are the ground improvements that Barry Kilby announced in a blaze of publicity and actually how much is Eddie Howe going to have at his disposal to invest in the team in order to improve our pathetic 13th position from last time around? 22,500 home gates in the Premiership compared to 13,500 now in the Championship and they will fall again this season if the team has a poor start and with the New Ticketing Prices just announced for non-season ticket holders. There is no getting away from the fact that having waited 33yrs to get back into the top flight of English football all the football club could do was last one season in the top flight. Regarding Jay Rodreguiz were negotiations even opened up with his agent and himself in order to get the lad to extend his stay at the Turf? I very much doubt it. What if he had turned around and said to the club that although the club had accepted a bid from Southampton for 7 million " He didn't want to go anywhere but stay and help the club get promotion" . How would the club have responded then I wonder ?
We also upgraded our training facilities and spent nearly 750k on our pitch after being relegated.
Why was 13th pathetic? - Did you see the teams we finished above, most of them are City clubs with double our attendances and revenue.
Are you really surprised that our attendances have dropped since relegation from the PL? JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER CLUB THAT HAS BEEN RELEGATED!!
Jay quite clearly wants a crack at the Premier League - how do you know that we didn't offer him a contract extension?
My advice - stop whinging about how hard done to the club is and how much the directors/board etc have let us all down and concentrate on supporting Burnley.
If you want to protest and whine about the club then why not pop along to the Chicken Coop down the M65 - they are Champions League class - you would fit right in.
midas
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9:24am Wed 20 Jun 12
They announce plans to upgrade training facilities - we have already upgraded ours. They have plans to complete their ground - we already have 4 permanent stands
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Is 13th Pathetic? I'm sure there would be 80 other clubs who would have swapped places!
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Comparing Premiership attendance with Championship? What was our average before Coyle?
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JRod - They would have asked him to sign a new contract - he wanted to play in the Premiership and triple his wages - not sign another Championship contract!! He had 12 months left and could have left at the end of the season for "free".
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Why are you worried about NTP you will already have got your season ticket, haven't you?
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Is 13th Pathetic? I'm sure there would be 80 other clubs who would have swapped places!
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Comparing Premiership attendance with Championship? What was our average before Coyle?
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JRod - They would have asked him to sign a new contract - he wanted to play in the Premiership and triple his wages - not sign another Championship contract!! He had 12 months left and could have left at the end of the season for "free".
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Why are you worried about NTP you will already have got your season ticket, haven't you?
Hippocroccapig
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9:33am Wed 20 Jun 12
Agreed Midas PMSL
burnleyglentoran
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9:44am Wed 20 Jun 12
A quick message to other clarets who post on here.
The joker who posts as "claret me and you is actually non othe than the multifaceted shcitziod formerly known as "Tetleydrinker"
He's the guy who Fellow Claret "nottetleydrinker" named himself after.
He used to come on the burnley stories and lord it over us about B******ds superiority.
He also used to go on non football topics and slag the town, the people and anything to do with Burnley.
He popped up on some real happy, totally non-football, stories and soiled them with weird remarks.
As "tetley drinker" he was banned and tried a series of names before settling on Keep Darwen Green.
Yesterday he posted on the story headed - "Burnley poised to start bidding for Leeds midfielder Clayton" as "Claret me and you" and as usual made negative remarks pretending to be a claret and, as usual a nasty side-swipe at Barry Kilby.
I pointed out what the crack was to another poster who was falling for the bait and then when you read the posts further down you can see he forgets to log out as one of his names and starts to ramble as another person.
Ignore this clown who pretends to one of us and just wants to sh1t stir and whenever possible make snidey remarks about Mr, Kilby and Burnley's finances.
Coming from a B******d fan with all their woes you'd think he'd keep his head down but, given his use of many names and personas and the weird obsession with ALL THINGS Burnley I reckon he's best left alone and well and truly ignored.
NO NAY NEVER
The joker who posts as "claret me and you is actually non othe than the multifaceted shcitziod formerly known as "Tetleydrinker"
He's the guy who Fellow Claret "nottetleydrinker" named himself after.
He used to come on the burnley stories and lord it over us about B******ds superiority.
He also used to go on non football topics and slag the town, the people and anything to do with Burnley.
He popped up on some real happy, totally non-football, stories and soiled them with weird remarks.
As "tetley drinker" he was banned and tried a series of names before settling on Keep Darwen Green.
Yesterday he posted on the story headed - "Burnley poised to start bidding for Leeds midfielder Clayton" as "Claret me and you" and as usual made negative remarks pretending to be a claret and, as usual a nasty side-swipe at Barry Kilby.
I pointed out what the crack was to another poster who was falling for the bait and then when you read the posts further down you can see he forgets to log out as one of his names and starts to ramble as another person.
Ignore this clown who pretends to one of us and just wants to sh1t stir and whenever possible make snidey remarks about Mr, Kilby and Burnley's finances.
Coming from a B******d fan with all their woes you'd think he'd keep his head down but, given his use of many names and personas and the weird obsession with ALL THINGS Burnley I reckon he's best left alone and well and truly ignored.
NO NAY NEVER
BigOrra
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11:09am Wed 20 Jun 12
ClaretSince94 wrote:ClaretSince94 wrote:
Where to start? BigOrra - Congratulations, you used "consumed" correctly this time, gold star! (Although, the "I say" was quite unnecessary. I'll let the typing mistake go too, I'm feeling kind.) claretmeandyou/clare t777 (quite obviously the same person, multiple troll accounts being a key indicator that someone's life is just sad and pathetic) - We put kids on the bench towards the end of the season because the play-offs were out of reach and so we could give our youngsters an important boost in their development. Charlie Adam was sold for £7 million, the same figure we received for Jay and we didn't try our hardest to sell him, it was inevitable he was going to leave so we tried our hardest to get the biggest fee we could, we succeeded. And I don't know if you've noticed but Blackpool are playing at the same level as ourselves this season? Finally, the football university doesn't cost the club anything, it is self funding, all the club does is rent out the space in the stadium, it's pure income - with your obsession with the board it's amazing you didn't know this. Keen O to get Kean Out - I don't post on Blackburn articles, ever. You post on Burnley articles... "think about it !!"
Where to start? BigOrra - Congratulations, you used "consumed" correctly this time, gold star! (Although, the "I say" was quite unnecessary. I'll let the typing mistake go too, I'm feeling kind.)
Ha ha ha, thanks for the pep talk. You're like an old school ma'am. Typos for chrissakes! Bet you're a real scream at a party 94
fylde exile
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11:21am Wed 20 Jun 12
Right I will ignore him and all others from down the road,I'm not really interested in what they say or do.However when our season starts against Bolton I shall look over to the dugouts and maybe just wonder if the manager sat in their dug out was still sat in ours would we even be playing Bolton or Blackburn this season.Whatever anybody may say facts are facts,and the fact is Coyle did what no other manager since Jimmy Adamson has done took us into the top tier of English football.Does anybody know the real real reason why he left,maybe his ambitions were not matched by us ,and although this may have rebounded now,had he stayed here I think we would have not been relegated in 2010,and that the joker that followed and the running of the club since would surely not have seen us in the state we are now
Hippocroccapig
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11:28am Wed 20 Jun 12
fylde exile wrote:I also think we wouldn't have been relegated in 2010 had Coyle remained in charge and had we signed the players like Jack Wilshere, Stuart Holden and Vladimir Weiss which were all earmarked by Coyle for Turf Moor.
Right I will ignore him and all others from down the road,I'm not really interested in what they say or do.However when our season starts against Bolton I shall look over to the dugouts and maybe just wonder if the manager sat in their dug out was still sat in ours would we even be playing Bolton or Blackburn this season.Whatever anybody may say facts are facts,and the fact is Coyle did what no other manager since Jimmy Adamson has done took us into the top tier of English football.Does anybody know the real real reason why he left,maybe his ambitions were not matched by us ,and although this may have rebounded now,had he stayed here I think we would have not been relegated in 2010,and that the joker that followed and the running of the club since would surely not have seen us in the state we are now
When he left he said that Bolton were "Ten years ahead of Burnley" in terms of their Premier League set-up etc, so basically as usual Owen Coyle left because it suited Owen Coyle.
Can't wait for the horseteethed Judas and his sidekick Steve Interesting Davis to walk the gauntlet from the players emtrance to the dug-outs.
flyingv1
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11:30pm Wed 20 Jun 12
burnleyglentoran wrote:Totally disagree burnleyglentoran
A quick message to other clarets who post on here. The joker who posts as "claret me and you is actually non othe than the multifaceted shcitziod formerly known as "Tetleydrinker" He's the guy who Fellow Claret "nottetleydrinker" named himself after. He used to come on the burnley stories and lord it over us about B******ds superiority. He also used to go on non football topics and slag the town, the people and anything to do with Burnley. He popped up on some real happy, totally non-football, stories and soiled them with weird remarks. As "tetley drinker" he was banned and tried a series of names before settling on Keep Darwen Green. Yesterday he posted on the story headed - "Burnley poised to start bidding for Leeds midfielder Clayton" as "Claret me and you" and as usual made negative remarks pretending to be a claret and, as usual a nasty side-swipe at Barry Kilby. I pointed out what the crack was to another poster who was falling for the bait and then when you read the posts further down you can see he forgets to log out as one of his names and starts to ramble as another person. Ignore this clown who pretends to one of us and just wants to sh1t stir and whenever possible make snidey remarks about Mr, Kilby and Burnley's finances. Coming from a B******d fan with all their woes you'd think he'd keep his head down but, given his use of many names and personas and the weird obsession with ALL THINGS Burnley I reckon he's best left alone and well and truly ignored. NO NAY NEVER
claretmeandyou
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12:11am Thu 21 Jun 12
13th position is pathetic considering how much the players in claret and blue are being paid. The fact that Watford a team who were odds on for relegation finished higher than us is rather embarracing don't you think. So too are the Clarets fans who are considering watching Fleetwood Town next season because their chairman talks far more sense and has far more ambition than our board will ever have. Regarding Jay Rodreguiz surely the club would have come out and said that they had offered Jay a new contract but that he had turned it down if that was the case, but we all know that it wasn't the case because THEY NEEDED THE MONEY. As for 750k spent on the pitch after our relegation from the Premier League the new pitch was paid out of the 800k that we got for finishing 3rd bottom on a measley 30pts which incidentley both Swansea and Norwich managed to exceed by at least 17pts. " But we didn't bet the ranch. " and now we have had to sell our top striker in order to plug the black hole of 4 million pound. Now that's what I call good management. Don't you?
Harwoodstblue
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9:48am Thu 21 Jun 12
ClaretSince94 wrote:Don't get upset sonny. It's called taking the P*ss
BigOrra wrote:Because a Rovers "supporter" posted the first comment on a Burnley article. Why are the Rovers fans consumed (?) with reading and posting their inane, witless and poorly spelt nonsense on every Burnley article?
Why are all the Burnley fans consumed with slagging off Rovers ?? When this is a Burnley thread ??
midas
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3:16pm Thu 21 Jun 12
claretmeandyou wrote:Once again you seem to have confused yourself.
13th position is pathetic considering how much the players in claret and blue are being paid. The fact that Watford a team who were odds on for relegation finished higher than us is rather embarracing don't you think. So too are the Clarets fans who are considering watching Fleetwood Town next season because their chairman talks far more sense and has far more ambition than our board will ever have. Regarding Jay Rodreguiz surely the club would have come out and said that they had offered Jay a new contract but that he had turned it down if that was the case, but we all know that it wasn't the case because THEY NEEDED THE MONEY. As for 750k spent on the pitch after our relegation from the Premier League the new pitch was paid out of the 800k that we got for finishing 3rd bottom on a measley 30pts which incidentley both Swansea and Norwich managed to exceed by at least 17pts. " But we didn't bet the ranch. " and now we have had to sell our top striker in order to plug the black hole of 4 million pound. Now that's what I call good management. Don't you?
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Burnley don't have the 13th biggest wage budget in the Championship therefore, using your criteria, finishing 13th is a comendable result.
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Bookies odds??? Finishing behind Watford is nothing to be embarresed about, in recent years they have been far more succesful than we have. A rather arrogant conclusion you have drawn. What were Burnleys odds in comparison?
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Who are these Claret fans that are considering going to Fleetwood? "friends" of yours no doubt!!
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Can you give an example of ANY OCCASION where the club has given a public statement in relation to ongoing player contract negotiations? Why should they start now?
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Swansea and Norwich (both City clubs with higher attandences than we get) got more points - the point your are trying to make is?
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Selling JRod for £7 million is good management, how can it not be?
Keen O to Get Kean Out says...
8:30am Tue 19 Jun 12