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ANDY CRYER COLUMN: It is tough keeping wantaway players

I AM not surprised most of Blackburn Rovers supporters have greeted Venky’s plans to keep most of their squad together next season with incredulity. I am the same.

I actually don’t doubt they want to keep their top players, once Junior Hoilett and Yakubu have gone, but that is going to be far easier said than done.

We only have to go back a few months to the Chris Samba situation. The player wanted out but Venky’s dug their heels in and said ‘not for sale’.

The stalemate continued for weeks, with Samba left training with the reserves, until the big defender was sold outside the transfer window. Player power won again.

That will be Venky’s big problem this summer if they look to keep hold of their best players, especially if these players, as has been indicated, want to quit East Lancashire.

The last thing we want is for the likes of Steven Nzonzi, Martin Olsson and even Paul Robinson to be sold late into the summer – leaving the club little time to replace the departures.

Venky’s need to face facts. They need to realise they are not a Premier League club any more and their ‘top stars’ will demand moves. It is naive for any club to believe they can keep a player if his heart is set on a move.

That is why I would sell players who have stated their desire to quit the club to the highest bidder as soon as possible.

They also need to be realistic about prices. Holding out for too much would leave the club with a player who doesn’t want to be here and no funds to replace him.

This is all assuming Venky’s will give Steve Kean the funds to strengthen in the transfer market. Going on past experience, there is no guarantee of that.

Incredibly no real work seems to have been done this close season yet. As it is, you would have to say Rovers’ squad stands little chance of winning promotion back into the Premier League.

Add to that the inevitable departures of Hoilett and Yakubu, as well as the likes of Martin Olsson and Nzonzi wanting away, and Rovers have a major rebuilding job on their hands.

You can’t help feeling that six or seven new signings are needed at least. I don’t mean random players who we have never heard of either.

We need experienced players capable of hitting the ground running in the rough and tumble of the Championship.

So far, Venky’s have miserably failed in the transfer market and the job ahead of them this summer is bigger than one they have ever faced before.

Unless a real budget is handed to the manager to strengthen, they can forget promotion.

It would also leave us all once more questioning why on earth they bothered to buy the football club.

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12:08pm Thu 14 Jun 12

vicn1956 says...

"Why on earth they bothered to buy the club." We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££
££££££££££
££££££££££
££££££££

They are still in shock and confused- every word they say we take with a pinch of salt. To them lying seems as natural as breathing.

All the media luvvies are quiet about recommending kean for the Spurs job- or has their agent/s not told them to?
"Why on earth they bothered to buy the club." We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££ They are still in shock and confused- every word they say we take with a pinch of salt. To them lying seems as natural as breathing. All the media luvvies are quiet about recommending kean for the Spurs job- or has their agent/s not told them to? vicn1956
  • Score: 5

12:09pm Thu 14 Jun 12

roverinmanchstr says...

have said the same in a comment on Monday...Perhaps they are 'still confused' ...
The future is bleak....They are responsible for Rovers demise....What utter Sh1ts!!!
have said the same in a comment on Monday...Perhaps they are 'still confused' ... The future is bleak....They are responsible for Rovers demise....What utter Sh1ts!!! roverinmanchstr
  • Score: 5

12:17pm Thu 14 Jun 12

Rovers 1495 says...

http://www.bbc.co.uk
/sport/0/football/18
441894

Venky's ... are you listening ?
http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/0/football/18 441894 Venky's ... are you listening ? Rovers 1495
  • Score: 2

12:19pm Thu 14 Jun 12

PpMac says...

it is simple, they bought the football club to make millions on the asset players we had/have - little left now, other than the young guns demanding moves....really???? I suspect they will not be told, you cannot leave, but quite the opposite, at the right price you will go....The likes of Pederson and Robinson, big earners, big personalities at the club, it is those players I fully expect to be leaving.
it is simple, they bought the football club to make millions on the asset players we had/have - little left now, other than the young guns demanding moves....really???? I suspect they will not be told, you cannot leave, but quite the opposite, at the right price you will go....The likes of Pederson and Robinson, big earners, big personalities at the club, it is those players I fully expect to be leaving. PpMac
  • Score: 3

12:21pm Thu 14 Jun 12

rhodie110961 says...

The only chance the club has got now is if the owners go,sacking Kean won`t make a blind bit of difference because we won`t be able to replace him with any one decent,there is going to be an exodus of players very soon and they won`t easily be replaced either.Lets face it we will be lucky to stay in the championship by the end of next season.Unless they already have buyers for the club and the selling process has already started we have very nearly run out of time to make changes before the new season starts.
The only chance the club has got now is if the owners go,sacking Kean won`t make a blind bit of difference because we won`t be able to replace him with any one decent,there is going to be an exodus of players very soon and they won`t easily be replaced either.Lets face it we will be lucky to stay in the championship by the end of next season.Unless they already have buyers for the club and the selling process has already started we have very nearly run out of time to make changes before the new season starts. rhodie110961
  • Score: 6

12:22pm Thu 14 Jun 12

rockyrovers says...

If Steve Kean is such a media darling, and the football guru some would have you believe why did not Liverpool, Aston Villa, Norwich and West Brom come a calling? Plain truth is he is not a premiership manager end of story, he is not even a championship manager. Come on Spurs make my day, break the Steve Kean duck!
If Steve Kean is such a media darling, and the football guru some would have you believe why did not Liverpool, Aston Villa, Norwich and West Brom come a calling? Plain truth is he is not a premiership manager end of story, he is not even a championship manager. Come on Spurs make my day, break the Steve Kean duck! rockyrovers
  • Score: 3

12:24pm Thu 14 Jun 12

Grabybaby says...

Perhaps I have missed something but has kean been confirmed as manager?

Please tell me NO NO NO
Perhaps I have missed something but has kean been confirmed as manager? Please tell me NO NO NO Grabybaby
  • Score: 4

12:24pm Thu 14 Jun 12

Rovers 1495 says...

Facebook is the answer, or maybe TWITter is more apt.
Facebook is the answer, or maybe TWITter is more apt. Rovers 1495
  • Score: 1

12:26pm Thu 14 Jun 12

Rovers 1495 says...

"Unless a real budget is handed to the manager to strengthen, they can forget promotion."

Could you remind us who the manager is ? As far as I'm aware, we haven't received any official statement as yet. Or did I miss something ?
"Unless a real budget is handed to the manager to strengthen, they can forget promotion." Could you remind us who the manager is ? As far as I'm aware, we haven't received any official statement as yet. Or did I miss something ? Rovers 1495
  • Score: 12

12:27pm Thu 14 Jun 12

thresholdweller says...

It would be nice if the Venkys read this article. I agree totally. I don't know whether I agree with some of the posters who seem to be able to read the Venkys minds. I still don't know whether they are assett strippers, or innocents abroad who have fallen under the spell of bad influences, or.........
It would be nice if the Venkys read this article. I agree totally. I don't know whether I agree with some of the posters who seem to be able to read the Venkys minds. I still don't know whether they are assett strippers, or innocents abroad who have fallen under the spell of bad influences, or......... thresholdweller
  • Score: 2

12:35pm Thu 14 Jun 12

jezblue says...

Why is everyone so negative????? I'M SURE THE NICE MR ANDERSON WILL HAVE SOME WORLD CLASS PLAYERS JUST WAITING TO SIGN FOR US!!!!!!!!!!
Why is everyone so negative????? I'M SURE THE NICE MR ANDERSON WILL HAVE SOME WORLD CLASS PLAYERS JUST WAITING TO SIGN FOR US!!!!!!!!!! jezblue
  • Score: 0

12:37pm Thu 14 Jun 12

thetop5 says...

There is a contradiction here; why keep players when they were not good enough resulting in Rovers being relegated?

That is, unless they were good enough and badly managed, in which case the manager has to go.

I cannot understand why Venky's don't understand this simple fact. Someone is to blame for being relegated and has to take the responsibility. If you hang onto your players AND manager Blackburn will never get back into the premier league. It is very black and white.
There is a contradiction here; why keep players when they were not good enough resulting in Rovers being relegated? That is, unless they were good enough and badly managed, in which case the manager has to go. I cannot understand why Venky's don't understand this simple fact. Someone is to blame for being relegated and has to take the responsibility. If you hang onto your players AND manager Blackburn will never get back into the premier league. It is very black and white. thetop5
  • Score: 12

12:42pm Thu 14 Jun 12

Ossy blue says...

'We need experienced players capable of hitting the ground running in the rough and tumble of the Championship.' Are you actually Steve Kean?? I see criticism is now solely directed at Venky's, it should be Kean, Anderson and Venky's - the running tirade of wanting them out must keep momentum. Andy put your neck on the line and give us some feedback on what attempts have been made to contact those concerned pls.
'We need experienced players capable of hitting the ground running in the rough and tumble of the Championship.' Are you actually Steve Kean?? I see criticism is now solely directed at Venky's, it should be Kean, Anderson and Venky's - the running tirade of wanting them out must keep momentum. Andy put your neck on the line and give us some feedback on what attempts have been made to contact those concerned pls. Ossy blue
  • Score: 6

12:48pm Thu 14 Jun 12

gudari says...

it's tough for woevers to keep any players!!!!
it's tough for woevers to keep any players!!!! gudari
  • Score: -5

12:56pm Thu 14 Jun 12

RoversSwiss says...

Where are these assets they are stripping, they don't own Ewood or Brockhall. Phil Jones activated a buy out clause from a contract that John Williams negotiated, at least Samba wasn't sold to relegation rivals. Hoillet won't sign a new contract. Salgado, Roberts, Nelson etc went because of the strange "play 8 games" and you get another contract. A lot of money has come into the club, but the costs per year are what, 50 to 60 millions pounds a year? Eventually Venkys did pay off the overdraft and Rovers are one of the few clubs without massive debts.

It still seems to me that Venkys biggest crime is giving the managers job to the wrong man, getting advice from the worst person possible and going back on promises to invest in top players, probably because they realised Rovers can't afford top wages.

If Venkys do leave, they can't sell, where do we get the money from to keep the club going? I think that's a fair question that needs to be answered by all the people causing trouble at the ground. From their lofty perches of knowing everything, what is their grand plan for Rovers future after Venkys?

They keep saying it is to save the Rovers, from what and is going bankrupt worth proving a point?

On another page someone accused me of doing nothing to help Rovers, unfortunately there is not much difference a fan can make in modern football. If I had 500 or 600 million in the bank and the wife would let me throw 100 million of it away then I could do something. Since Jack bought Rovers the fans have had no say, the difference was that Jack made almost all the right decisions.
Where are these assets they are stripping, they don't own Ewood or Brockhall. Phil Jones activated a buy out clause from a contract that John Williams negotiated, at least Samba wasn't sold to relegation rivals. Hoillet won't sign a new contract. Salgado, Roberts, Nelson etc went because of the strange "play 8 games" and you get another contract. A lot of money has come into the club, but the costs per year are what, 50 to 60 millions pounds a year? Eventually Venkys did pay off the overdraft and Rovers are one of the few clubs without massive debts. It still seems to me that Venkys biggest crime is giving the managers job to the wrong man, getting advice from the worst person possible and going back on promises to invest in top players, probably because they realised Rovers can't afford top wages. If Venkys do leave, they can't sell, where do we get the money from to keep the club going? I think that's a fair question that needs to be answered by all the people causing trouble at the ground. From their lofty perches of knowing everything, what is their grand plan for Rovers future after Venkys? They keep saying it is to save the Rovers, from what and is going bankrupt worth proving a point? On another page someone accused me of doing nothing to help Rovers, unfortunately there is not much difference a fan can make in modern football. If I had 500 or 600 million in the bank and the wife would let me throw 100 million of it away then I could do something. Since Jack bought Rovers the fans have had no say, the difference was that Jack made almost all the right decisions. RoversSwiss
  • Score: 9

12:56pm Thu 14 Jun 12

bluefadingfast says...

It's all too late -- 9 weeks or so to the start of the Championship, Venkys still silent, no word on Golums position at the club, no transfer activity -- absolute nothing.

It looks like Venky's are hoping we'll all forget what's gone on in the last 18 months.

If Golum was given a budget for a corner shop he'd only buy stock that no one wanted or stock past it's best.
It's all too late -- 9 weeks or so to the start of the Championship, Venkys still silent, no word on Golums position at the club, no transfer activity -- absolute nothing. It looks like Venky's are hoping we'll all forget what's gone on in the last 18 months. If Golum was given a budget for a corner shop he'd only buy stock that no one wanted or stock past it's best. bluefadingfast
  • Score: 6

1:13pm Thu 14 Jun 12

fickle fan says...

vicn1956 wrote:
"Why on earth they bothered to buy the club." We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££

££££££££££

££££££££££

££££££££

They are still in shock and confused- every word they say we take with a pinch of salt. To them lying seems as natural as breathing.

All the media luvvies are quiet about recommending kean for the Spurs job- or has their agent/s not told them to?
We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ £££££
If they bought the club, paid off the debt and gave the manager 20m to spend on players how are they making money,
The clause in Jones` contract was not their doing and Samba refused to play.
[quote][p][bold]vicn1956[/bold] wrote: "Why on earth they bothered to buy the club." We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££ They are still in shock and confused- every word they say we take with a pinch of salt. To them lying seems as natural as breathing. All the media luvvies are quiet about recommending kean for the Spurs job- or has their agent/s not told them to?[/p][/quote]We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ £££££ If they bought the club, paid off the debt and gave the manager 20m to spend on players how are they making money, The clause in Jones` contract was not their doing and Samba refused to play. fickle fan
  • Score: -1

1:53pm Thu 14 Jun 12

b12simon says...

jezblue wrote:
Why is everyone so negative????? I'M SURE THE NICE MR ANDERSON WILL HAVE SOME WORLD CLASS PLAYERS JUST WAITING TO SIGN FOR US!!!!!!!!!!
How many sons has he got?
[quote][p][bold]jezblue[/bold] wrote: Why is everyone so negative????? I'M SURE THE NICE MR ANDERSON WILL HAVE SOME WORLD CLASS PLAYERS JUST WAITING TO SIGN FOR US!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]How many sons has he got? b12simon
  • Score: 2

2:04pm Thu 14 Jun 12

Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! says...

It's going to be even tougher keeping wantaway fans!
.
34th.......
It's going to be even tougher keeping wantaway fans! . 34th....... Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles!
  • Score: 1

2:21pm Thu 14 Jun 12

fullofhatred4kean says...

the only person who does not want to leave the club is that loathsome toad kean.rednap finished fourth and got sacked.which ever way anybody wants to look at it rovers are finished.as for colin hendry do not lose your legend status with the fans by associating yourself with kean,you will never be forgiven
the only person who does not want to leave the club is that loathsome toad kean.rednap finished fourth and got sacked.which ever way anybody wants to look at it rovers are finished.as for colin hendry do not lose your legend status with the fans by associating yourself with kean,you will never be forgiven fullofhatred4kean
  • Score: 10

2:40pm Thu 14 Jun 12

thresholdweller says...

roverinmanchstr wrote:
thresholdweller wrote:
It would be nice if the Venkys read this article. I agree totally. I don't know whether I agree with some of the posters who seem to be able to read the Venkys minds. I still don't know whether they are assett strippers, or innocents abroad who have fallen under the spell of bad influences, or.........
Innocents!!!!
No, they are utter Sh1ts....Where have you been for the last 18 months???!!.
Does this (there non actions)..not remind you of exactly what happened last year..pleading for patience and then shopping for the 20p bargains???.........

....Relegation......

..( this on the back of escaping relegation the season before)
'Nice iof the Venky's read this article indeed!!!!!!
Where have I been the last 18 months? Probably scratching my confused head somewhere near you. Do you think that the Venkys bought the club to ruin it? I think not, but I don't know what they intended. Relegation has been the result of their strange decisions, but I don't know why they made them. Their inaction is worrying, but usually disasters are the result of ****-ups not some cunning plan. They may read this article. Apparently, they have been getting transfer advice off Facebook.

There's many who love a conspiracy. Who knows how Steve Kean has kept his job, but the hostile vitriol that was directed at him, partcularly around Christmas, only had the effect, with hindsight, of getting him support and cementing his position. Many of his abusers probably find it's difficult to stomach the fact that they helped him keep his job.
[quote][p][bold]roverinmanchstr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thresholdweller[/bold] wrote: It would be nice if the Venkys read this article. I agree totally. I don't know whether I agree with some of the posters who seem to be able to read the Venkys minds. I still don't know whether they are assett strippers, or innocents abroad who have fallen under the spell of bad influences, or.........[/p][/quote]Innocents!!!! No, they are utter Sh1ts....Where have you been for the last 18 months???!!. Does this (there non actions)..not remind you of exactly what happened last year..pleading for patience and then shopping for the 20p bargains???......... ....Relegation...... ..( this on the back of escaping relegation the season before) 'Nice iof the Venky's read this article indeed!!!!!![/p][/quote]Where have I been the last 18 months? Probably scratching my confused head somewhere near you. Do you think that the Venkys bought the club to ruin it? I think not, but I don't know what they intended. Relegation has been the result of their strange decisions, but I don't know why they made them. Their inaction is worrying, but usually disasters are the result of ****-ups not some cunning plan. They may read this article. Apparently, they have been getting transfer advice off Facebook. There's many who love a conspiracy. Who knows how Steve Kean has kept his job, but the hostile vitriol that was directed at him, partcularly around Christmas, only had the effect, with hindsight, of getting him support and cementing his position. Many of his abusers probably find it's difficult to stomach the fact that they helped him keep his job. thresholdweller
  • Score: -1

2:47pm Thu 14 Jun 12

petemcglinn says...

jacksdownunder wrote:
Who would want to play for you,whatever your position?

numpty manager,clueless owners and crap support.

also having to live anywhere nr the vicinity of Blackburn must be a serious issue for any player with a family.You would rather risk taking a security job in Basra.

took a drive thru dog **** city (darwen) yesterday and its like Burnley was twenty years ago,before Prince of Clarets Charles started sprucing it up with YOUR tax money.So big thanks to the 2% of you that do work,and the rest of you jeremy kyle watching,my mums cola drinking lowlife.Keep up the demos against the Venkys.Its great turning into local news to see you Gurners with your Pound shop clobber and dribbling through your front tooth.

see you next season, if you can raise 11 players at fortress Turf

thanks for the six points in advance.

EASY EASY EASY

UTC
Talks the talk, it's about walking the walk, you bin dipping rat eating ar$e wipe clampet.

Thirty four years !!!!! You lot have been talking the talk, and that's all it's ever been, and allways will be, just talk.

Last time I had the misfortune of traveling through burnley, it was like being in a time warp. Have you brought your ground into the 21st century yet??? Will your club be spending any of the 8million parachute payment? Or any of the 7 million you got for jayrod on replacing them poxy wooden seats ? I guess not.
So where's the money going? On more loan players from Bournemouth etc.
[quote][p][bold]jacksdownunder[/bold] wrote: Who would want to play for you,whatever your position? numpty manager,clueless owners and crap support. also having to live anywhere nr the vicinity of Blackburn must be a serious issue for any player with a family.You would rather risk taking a security job in Basra. took a drive thru dog **** city (darwen) yesterday and its like Burnley was twenty years ago,before Prince of Clarets Charles started sprucing it up with YOUR tax money.So big thanks to the 2% of you that do work,and the rest of you jeremy kyle watching,my mums cola drinking lowlife.Keep up the demos against the Venkys.Its great turning into local news to see you Gurners with your Pound shop clobber and dribbling through your front tooth. see you next season, if you can raise 11 players at fortress Turf thanks for the six points in advance. EASY EASY EASY UTC[/p][/quote]Talks the talk, it's about walking the walk, you bin dipping rat eating ar$e wipe clampet. Thirty four years !!!!! You lot have been talking the talk, and that's all it's ever been, and allways will be, just talk. Last time I had the misfortune of traveling through burnley, it was like being in a time warp. Have you brought your ground into the 21st century yet??? Will your club be spending any of the 8million parachute payment? Or any of the 7 million you got for jayrod on replacing them poxy wooden seats ? I guess not. So where's the money going? On more loan players from Bournemouth etc. petemcglinn
  • Score: 1

2:54pm Thu 14 Jun 12

Rovers 1495 says...

thresholdweller wrote:
roverinmanchstr wrote:
thresholdweller wrote:
It would be nice if the Venkys read this article. I agree totally. I don't know whether I agree with some of the posters who seem to be able to read the Venkys minds. I still don't know whether they are assett strippers, or innocents abroad who have fallen under the spell of bad influences, or.........
Innocents!!!!
No, they are utter Sh1ts....Where have you been for the last 18 months???!!.
Does this (there non actions)..not remind you of exactly what happened last year..pleading for patience and then shopping for the 20p bargains???.........


....Relegation......


..( this on the back of escaping relegation the season before)
'Nice iof the Venky's read this article indeed!!!!!!
Where have I been the last 18 months? Probably scratching my confused head somewhere near you. Do you think that the Venkys bought the club to ruin it? I think not, but I don't know what they intended. Relegation has been the result of their strange decisions, but I don't know why they made them. Their inaction is worrying, but usually disasters are the result of ****-ups not some cunning plan. They may read this article. Apparently, they have been getting transfer advice off Facebook.

There's many who love a conspiracy. Who knows how Steve Kean has kept his job, but the hostile vitriol that was directed at him, partcularly around Christmas, only had the effect, with hindsight, of getting him support and cementing his position. Many of his abusers probably find it's difficult to stomach the fact that they helped him keep his job.
If that is true and they simply made some bad mistakes, but deep down they meant no harm to the club, then why haven't they learnt from those mistakes ? The definition of insanity, or delusion, is performing the same task again and again, and each time expecting a different outcome.
[quote][p][bold]thresholdweller[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roverinmanchstr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thresholdweller[/bold] wrote: It would be nice if the Venkys read this article. I agree totally. I don't know whether I agree with some of the posters who seem to be able to read the Venkys minds. I still don't know whether they are assett strippers, or innocents abroad who have fallen under the spell of bad influences, or.........[/p][/quote]Innocents!!!! No, they are utter Sh1ts....Where have you been for the last 18 months???!!. Does this (there non actions)..not remind you of exactly what happened last year..pleading for patience and then shopping for the 20p bargains???......... ....Relegation...... ..( this on the back of escaping relegation the season before) 'Nice iof the Venky's read this article indeed!!!!!![/p][/quote]Where have I been the last 18 months? Probably scratching my confused head somewhere near you. Do you think that the Venkys bought the club to ruin it? I think not, but I don't know what they intended. Relegation has been the result of their strange decisions, but I don't know why they made them. Their inaction is worrying, but usually disasters are the result of ****-ups not some cunning plan. They may read this article. Apparently, they have been getting transfer advice off Facebook. There's many who love a conspiracy. Who knows how Steve Kean has kept his job, but the hostile vitriol that was directed at him, partcularly around Christmas, only had the effect, with hindsight, of getting him support and cementing his position. Many of his abusers probably find it's difficult to stomach the fact that they helped him keep his job.[/p][/quote]If that is true and they simply made some bad mistakes, but deep down they meant no harm to the club, then why haven't they learnt from those mistakes ? The definition of insanity, or delusion, is performing the same task again and again, and each time expecting a different outcome. Rovers 1495
  • Score: 3

2:58pm Thu 14 Jun 12

Gaz M says...

As morst has said its going to be harder to get the fans through the gates ,especially as it is looking highly likely that Kean will remain in charge. The fact that there are no season tickets yet on sale an essential element usually to how much monies will be spent on incomming transfers probably gives us an insight into what they are intending to invest ,nothing at all! Venkys out Kean out.
As morst has said its going to be harder to get the fans through the gates ,especially as it is looking highly likely that Kean will remain in charge. The fact that there are no season tickets yet on sale an essential element usually to how much monies will be spent on incomming transfers probably gives us an insight into what they are intending to invest ,nothing at all! Venkys out Kean out. Gaz M
  • Score: 3

2:58pm Thu 14 Jun 12

Gaz M says...

As morst has said its going to be harder to get the fans through the gates ,especially as it is looking highly likely that Kean will remain in charge. The fact that there are no season tickets yet on sale an essential element usually to how much monies will be spent on incomming transfers probably gives us an insight into what they are intending to invest ,nothing at all! Venkys out Kean out.
As morst has said its going to be harder to get the fans through the gates ,especially as it is looking highly likely that Kean will remain in charge. The fact that there are no season tickets yet on sale an essential element usually to how much monies will be spent on incomming transfers probably gives us an insight into what they are intending to invest ,nothing at all! Venkys out Kean out. Gaz M
  • Score: 2

3:11pm Thu 14 Jun 12

Keen O to Get Kean Out says...

yes its sad that we have a real down hill spiral of a once great club,, all the takeover plans, puffing, panting and demonstrating hasnt changed anything, i was one of the protesters last season, desperate to save my club,, but are we really going to change anything or influence strange confusing decisions made by our friends in India
yes its sad that we have a real down hill spiral of a once great club,, all the takeover plans, puffing, panting and demonstrating hasnt changed anything, i was one of the protesters last season, desperate to save my club,, but are we really going to change anything or influence strange confusing decisions made by our friends in India Keen O to Get Kean Out
  • Score: 1

3:15pm Thu 14 Jun 12

makaveli96 says...

But we OWN them!

Why isnt it like it used to be? Theres to much freedom in society in general.

"if you dont do as your told you get a belt, now behave"

How I loved the 80s
But we OWN them! Why isnt it like it used to be? Theres to much freedom in society in general. "if you dont do as your told you get a belt, now behave" How I loved the 80s makaveli96
  • Score: 0

3:15pm Thu 14 Jun 12

DaBoss says...

gudari wrote:
it's tough for woevers to keep any players!!!!
Yes Dug, but have you noticed, not one of those players (or do any players?) show any desire to play at fortress of turd?
[quote][p][bold]gudari[/bold] wrote: it's tough for woevers to keep any players!!!![/p][/quote]Yes Dug, but have you noticed, not one of those players (or do any players?) show any desire to play at fortress of turd? DaBoss
  • Score: 0

3:17pm Thu 14 Jun 12

DaBoss says...

... where the phrase "The Sh1t has hit the fan" is taken literally.
... where the phrase "The Sh1t has hit the fan" is taken literally. DaBoss
  • Score: 0

3:23pm Thu 14 Jun 12

Roverthere says...

Rovers 1495 wrote:
thresholdweller wrote:
roverinmanchstr wrote:
thresholdweller wrote: It would be nice if the Venkys read this article. I agree totally. I don't know whether I agree with some of the posters who seem to be able to read the Venkys minds. I still don't know whether they are assett strippers, or innocents abroad who have fallen under the spell of bad influences, or.........
Innocents!!!! No, they are utter Sh1ts....Where have you been for the last 18 months???!!. Does this (there non actions)..not remind you of exactly what happened last year..pleading for patience and then shopping for the 20p bargains???......... ....Relegation...... ..( this on the back of escaping relegation the season before) 'Nice iof the Venky's read this article indeed!!!!!!
Where have I been the last 18 months? Probably scratching my confused head somewhere near you. Do you think that the Venkys bought the club to ruin it? I think not, but I don't know what they intended. Relegation has been the result of their strange decisions, but I don't know why they made them. Their inaction is worrying, but usually disasters are the result of ****-ups not some cunning plan. They may read this article. Apparently, they have been getting transfer advice off Facebook. There's many who love a conspiracy. Who knows how Steve Kean has kept his job, but the hostile vitriol that was directed at him, partcularly around Christmas, only had the effect, with hindsight, of getting him support and cementing his position. Many of his abusers probably find it's difficult to stomach the fact that they helped him keep his job.
If that is true and they simply made some bad mistakes, but deep down they meant no harm to the club, then why haven't they learnt from those mistakes ? The definition of insanity, or delusion, is performing the same task again and again, and each time expecting a different outcome.
Or just plain incompetence!
[quote][p][bold]Rovers 1495[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thresholdweller[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roverinmanchstr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thresholdweller[/bold] wrote: It would be nice if the Venkys read this article. I agree totally. I don't know whether I agree with some of the posters who seem to be able to read the Venkys minds. I still don't know whether they are assett strippers, or innocents abroad who have fallen under the spell of bad influences, or.........[/p][/quote]Innocents!!!! No, they are utter Sh1ts....Where have you been for the last 18 months???!!. Does this (there non actions)..not remind you of exactly what happened last year..pleading for patience and then shopping for the 20p bargains???......... ....Relegation...... ..( this on the back of escaping relegation the season before) 'Nice iof the Venky's read this article indeed!!!!!![/p][/quote]Where have I been the last 18 months? Probably scratching my confused head somewhere near you. Do you think that the Venkys bought the club to ruin it? I think not, but I don't know what they intended. Relegation has been the result of their strange decisions, but I don't know why they made them. Their inaction is worrying, but usually disasters are the result of ****-ups not some cunning plan. They may read this article. Apparently, they have been getting transfer advice off Facebook. There's many who love a conspiracy. Who knows how Steve Kean has kept his job, but the hostile vitriol that was directed at him, partcularly around Christmas, only had the effect, with hindsight, of getting him support and cementing his position. Many of his abusers probably find it's difficult to stomach the fact that they helped him keep his job.[/p][/quote]If that is true and they simply made some bad mistakes, but deep down they meant no harm to the club, then why haven't they learnt from those mistakes ? The definition of insanity, or delusion, is performing the same task again and again, and each time expecting a different outcome.[/p][/quote]Or just plain incompetence! Roverthere
  • Score: 1

3:23pm Thu 14 Jun 12

Keen O to Get Kean Out says...

DaBoss wrote:
gudari wrote: it's tough for woevers to keep any players!!!!
Yes Dug, but have you noticed, not one of those players (or do any players?) show any desire to play at fortress of turd?
its pointless any Burnley fans getting involved at this stage,we re both bad clubs now, i loved the 80,s derbys,, but now its all been spoilt, players arent interested in the magic of Burnley V Blackburn any more
[quote][p][bold]DaBoss[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gudari[/bold] wrote: it's tough for woevers to keep any players!!!![/p][/quote]Yes Dug, but have you noticed, not one of those players (or do any players?) show any desire to play at fortress of turd?[/p][/quote]its pointless any Burnley fans getting involved at this stage,we re both bad clubs now, i loved the 80,s derbys,, but now its all been spoilt, players arent interested in the magic of Burnley V Blackburn any more Keen O to Get Kean Out
  • Score: 1

3:28pm Thu 14 Jun 12

maltese blue n white says...

I hated it every time the odious toad Kean opened his mouth, but his silence really had me scared for a while, but not to worry, I've worked it out, he's not been silenced, nor doing anything underhand, he's responding to the 500 letters a week he gets in support of his management abilities.. now I've sorted that out for ya it's back to the prozac washed down with vodka for me... ciao ciao...
I hated it every time the odious toad Kean opened his mouth, but his silence really had me scared for a while, but not to worry, I've worked it out, he's not been silenced, nor doing anything underhand, he's responding to the 500 letters a week he gets in support of his management abilities.. now I've sorted that out for ya it's back to the prozac washed down with vodka for me... ciao ciao... maltese blue n white
  • Score: 3

3:30pm Thu 14 Jun 12

PpMac says...

RoversSwiss wrote:
Where are these assets they are stripping, they don't own Ewood or Brockhall. Phil Jones activated a buy out clause from a contract that John Williams negotiated, at least Samba wasn't sold to relegation rivals. Hoillet won't sign a new contract. Salgado, Roberts, Nelson etc went because of the strange "play 8 games" and you get another contract. A lot of money has come into the club, but the costs per year are what, 50 to 60 millions pounds a year? Eventually Venkys did pay off the overdraft and Rovers are one of the few clubs without massive debts. It still seems to me that Venkys biggest crime is giving the managers job to the wrong man, getting advice from the worst person possible and going back on promises to invest in top players, probably because they realised Rovers can't afford top wages. If Venkys do leave, they can't sell, where do we get the money from to keep the club going? I think that's a fair question that needs to be answered by all the people causing trouble at the ground. From their lofty perches of knowing everything, what is their grand plan for Rovers future after Venkys? They keep saying it is to save the Rovers, from what and is going bankrupt worth proving a point? On another page someone accused me of doing nothing to help Rovers, unfortunately there is not much difference a fan can make in modern football. If I had 500 or 600 million in the bank and the wife would let me throw 100 million of it away then I could do something. Since Jack bought Rovers the fans have had no say, the difference was that Jack made almost all the right decisions.
Spot on....

my guess is that even if we had Jack's 300 million at this juncture would by no means sercure premier league football under the management put in place by Venkys. Jack made the right choices, even with Brian Kidd, gave him a go, gave him the boot!

Its all about choices, why would Ronaldino or Beckham play for Steve Kean? who is he, would be the question - and now everyone knows of him through the wrong reasons and that ultimately prevents quality players considering Rovers as a postive move. It says it all with the comparison to those players connected with Rovers to those wishing to depart.

Venkys have made shocking decisions and continue to prolong the agony in their incompetence which is proving the real stumbling block to all this. They are being advised and guided by those they have paid to do a job, and yes that will include Kean, Anderson and I suspect a few more of the round table crew. The women Deshi, cannot hold all the cards to one mans future - who in their right mind is going to risk millions of pounds of revenue on one man, no one, not even Venkys, they are confused because they are stuck with this situation and more than likley want to jump ship......fast.

In contrast, the fans, those that will still support the club that is, are also stuck with this situation until Venky's do the right thing and sell. SK situation will become clearer only if Venky's situation at the club ends. Other than that...we are all at stale-mate.
[quote][p][bold]RoversSwiss[/bold] wrote: Where are these assets they are stripping, they don't own Ewood or Brockhall. Phil Jones activated a buy out clause from a contract that John Williams negotiated, at least Samba wasn't sold to relegation rivals. Hoillet won't sign a new contract. Salgado, Roberts, Nelson etc went because of the strange "play 8 games" and you get another contract. A lot of money has come into the club, but the costs per year are what, 50 to 60 millions pounds a year? Eventually Venkys did pay off the overdraft and Rovers are one of the few clubs without massive debts. It still seems to me that Venkys biggest crime is giving the managers job to the wrong man, getting advice from the worst person possible and going back on promises to invest in top players, probably because they realised Rovers can't afford top wages. If Venkys do leave, they can't sell, where do we get the money from to keep the club going? I think that's a fair question that needs to be answered by all the people causing trouble at the ground. From their lofty perches of knowing everything, what is their grand plan for Rovers future after Venkys? They keep saying it is to save the Rovers, from what and is going bankrupt worth proving a point? On another page someone accused me of doing nothing to help Rovers, unfortunately there is not much difference a fan can make in modern football. If I had 500 or 600 million in the bank and the wife would let me throw 100 million of it away then I could do something. Since Jack bought Rovers the fans have had no say, the difference was that Jack made almost all the right decisions.[/p][/quote]Spot on.... my guess is that even if we had Jack's 300 million at this juncture would by no means sercure premier league football under the management put in place by Venkys. Jack made the right choices, even with Brian Kidd, gave him a go, gave him the boot! Its all about choices, why would Ronaldino or Beckham play for Steve Kean? who is he, would be the question - and now everyone knows of him through the wrong reasons and that ultimately prevents quality players considering Rovers as a postive move. It says it all with the comparison to those players connected with Rovers to those wishing to depart. Venkys have made shocking decisions and continue to prolong the agony in their incompetence which is proving the real stumbling block to all this. They are being advised and guided by those they have paid to do a job, and yes that will include Kean, Anderson and I suspect a few more of the round table crew. The women Deshi, cannot hold all the cards to one mans future - who in their right mind is going to risk millions of pounds of revenue on one man, no one, not even Venkys, they are confused because they are stuck with this situation and more than likley want to jump ship......fast. In contrast, the fans, those that will still support the club that is, are also stuck with this situation until Venky's do the right thing and sell. SK situation will become clearer only if Venky's situation at the club ends. Other than that...we are all at stale-mate. PpMac
  • Score: 9

3:32pm Thu 14 Jun 12

Keen O to Get Kean Out says...

i agree
ive never been a fan of a scots accent, its a very '**** sure of himself' irritant,, its weird how he, still in a job and everyone else is sacked - but he sent us down !!!!
i agree ive never been a fan of a scots accent, its a very '**** sure of himself' irritant,, its weird how he, still in a job and everyone else is sacked - but he sent us down !!!! Keen O to Get Kean Out
  • Score: 3

3:42pm Thu 14 Jun 12

penemo says...

Andy as regards getting new experienced players who in their right mind would want to play for this lying muppet keane.
And dont worry if venkys say their star players wont be leaving ==
they wont ::::
Andy as regards getting new experienced players who in their right mind would want to play for this lying muppet keane. And dont worry if venkys say their star players wont be leaving == they wont :::: penemo
  • Score: 4

3:45pm Thu 14 Jun 12

Keen O to Get Kean Out says...

penemo wrote:
Andy as regards getting new experienced players who in their right mind would want to play for this lying muppet keane. And dont worry if venkys say their star players wont be leaving == they wont ::::
all the players will leave or sulk next seasons, the tactics he employs will demotivate the fans and players and take us down again, and Venkys back him. hes no more than a pub team manager at best ,, but we are not employing him,, his employers love him .. maybe he,s having an affair with someone
[quote][p][bold]penemo[/bold] wrote: Andy as regards getting new experienced players who in their right mind would want to play for this lying muppet keane. And dont worry if venkys say their star players wont be leaving == they wont ::::[/p][/quote]all the players will leave or sulk next seasons, the tactics he employs will demotivate the fans and players and take us down again, and Venkys back him. hes no more than a pub team manager at best ,, but we are not employing him,, his employers love him .. maybe he,s having an affair with someone Keen O to Get Kean Out
  • Score: 5

3:48pm Thu 14 Jun 12

bring back the good old days says...

A quick return to the Prem is pie in the sky.
Wot with incompetent owners, a rookie manager, no real funding, a squad not capable of such, no reason for a decent manager to join us, no reason for any decent player/s to join us, NO REAL SUPPORT BASE.

Apart from that I see no reason why we should not 'storm the Champs'!!!
A quick return to the Prem is pie in the sky. Wot with incompetent owners, a rookie manager, no real funding, a squad not capable of such, no reason for a decent manager to join us, no reason for any decent player/s to join us, NO REAL SUPPORT BASE. Apart from that I see no reason why we should not 'storm the Champs'!!! bring back the good old days
  • Score: 1

3:49pm Thu 14 Jun 12

Sherwoodforest says...

He's taking us down..he's taking us down.........Steve Kean's a w@nker, and he's taking us down........Repeat--
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He's taking us down..he's taking us down.........Steve Kean's a w@nker, and he's taking us down........Repeat-- -- Sherwoodforest
  • Score: 2

3:51pm Thu 14 Jun 12

Keen O to Get Kean Out says...

bring back the good old days wrote:
A quick return to the Prem is pie in the sky. Wot with incompetent owners, a rookie manager, no real funding, a squad not capable of such, no reason for a decent manager to join us, no reason for any decent player/s to join us, NO REAL SUPPORT BASE. Apart from that I see no reason why we should not 'storm the Champs'!!!
a pie in the sky is right, ther'll be no pies next season, all be 'closed for business' & ' under new managment'
[quote][p][bold]bring back the good old days[/bold] wrote: A quick return to the Prem is pie in the sky. Wot with incompetent owners, a rookie manager, no real funding, a squad not capable of such, no reason for a decent manager to join us, no reason for any decent player/s to join us, NO REAL SUPPORT BASE. Apart from that I see no reason why we should not 'storm the Champs'!!![/p][/quote]a pie in the sky is right, ther'll be no pies next season, all be 'closed for business' & ' under new managment' Keen O to Get Kean Out
  • Score: 1

3:55pm Thu 14 Jun 12

Keen O to Get Kean Out says...

Sherwoodforest wrote:
He's taking us down..he's taking us down.........Steve Kean's a w@nker, and he's taking us down........Repeat-- --
i think thats being a bit kind to w@nkers,sherwood forest, ill certainly be singing it, but thats only if i can get on the ground terraces,, i think we will be closed down soon
[quote][p][bold]Sherwoodforest[/bold] wrote: He's taking us down..he's taking us down.........Steve Kean's a w@nker, and he's taking us down........Repeat-- --[/p][/quote]i think thats being a bit kind to w@nkers,sherwood forest, ill certainly be singing it, but thats only if i can get on the ground terraces,, i think we will be closed down soon Keen O to Get Kean Out
  • Score: 0

3:56pm Thu 14 Jun 12

bring back the good old days says...

fickle fan wrote:
vicn1956 wrote:
"Why on earth they bothered to buy the club." We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££


££££££££££


££££££££££


££££££££

They are still in shock and confused- every word they say we take with a pinch of salt. To them lying seems as natural as breathing.

All the media luvvies are quiet about recommending kean for the Spurs job- or has their agent/s not told them to?
We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ £££££
If they bought the club, paid off the debt and gave the manager 20m to spend on players how are they making money,
The clause in Jones` contract was not their doing and Samba refused to play.
If you truly believe all that has happened is accidental - god help us!!!
[quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vicn1956[/bold] wrote: "Why on earth they bothered to buy the club." We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££ They are still in shock and confused- every word they say we take with a pinch of salt. To them lying seems as natural as breathing. All the media luvvies are quiet about recommending kean for the Spurs job- or has their agent/s not told them to?[/p][/quote]We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ £££££ If they bought the club, paid off the debt and gave the manager 20m to spend on players how are they making money, The clause in Jones` contract was not their doing and Samba refused to play.[/p][/quote]If you truly believe all that has happened is accidental - god help us!!! bring back the good old days
  • Score: 1

4:01pm Thu 14 Jun 12

bring back the good old days says...

RoversSwiss wrote:
Where are these assets they are stripping, they don't own Ewood or Brockhall. Phil Jones activated a buy out clause from a contract that John Williams negotiated, at least Samba wasn't sold to relegation rivals. Hoillet won't sign a new contract. Salgado, Roberts, Nelson etc went because of the strange "play 8 games" and you get another contract. A lot of money has come into the club, but the costs per year are what, 50 to 60 millions pounds a year? Eventually Venkys did pay off the overdraft and Rovers are one of the few clubs without massive debts.

It still seems to me that Venkys biggest crime is giving the managers job to the wrong man, getting advice from the worst person possible and going back on promises to invest in top players, probably because they realised Rovers can't afford top wages.

If Venkys do leave, they can't sell, where do we get the money from to keep the club going? I think that's a fair question that needs to be answered by all the people causing trouble at the ground. From their lofty perches of knowing everything, what is their grand plan for Rovers future after Venkys?

They keep saying it is to save the Rovers, from what and is going bankrupt worth proving a point?

On another page someone accused me of doing nothing to help Rovers, unfortunately there is not much difference a fan can make in modern football. If I had 500 or 600 million in the bank and the wife would let me throw 100 million of it away then I could do something. Since Jack bought Rovers the fans have had no say, the difference was that Jack made almost all the right decisions.
Let me ask all a question here (and please take your B&W hats off.
WRT contracts and clauses do you honestly believe ANY player has it in his head to sign infinatum to any cub, never mind BRFC for his whole career irrespective.???
Come on get real lads, virtual every club is a stepping stone to somewhere else on any footballers career ladder.

Get into the real world.
[quote][p][bold]RoversSwiss[/bold] wrote: Where are these assets they are stripping, they don't own Ewood or Brockhall. Phil Jones activated a buy out clause from a contract that John Williams negotiated, at least Samba wasn't sold to relegation rivals. Hoillet won't sign a new contract. Salgado, Roberts, Nelson etc went because of the strange "play 8 games" and you get another contract. A lot of money has come into the club, but the costs per year are what, 50 to 60 millions pounds a year? Eventually Venkys did pay off the overdraft and Rovers are one of the few clubs without massive debts. It still seems to me that Venkys biggest crime is giving the managers job to the wrong man, getting advice from the worst person possible and going back on promises to invest in top players, probably because they realised Rovers can't afford top wages. If Venkys do leave, they can't sell, where do we get the money from to keep the club going? I think that's a fair question that needs to be answered by all the people causing trouble at the ground. From their lofty perches of knowing everything, what is their grand plan for Rovers future after Venkys? They keep saying it is to save the Rovers, from what and is going bankrupt worth proving a point? On another page someone accused me of doing nothing to help Rovers, unfortunately there is not much difference a fan can make in modern football. If I had 500 or 600 million in the bank and the wife would let me throw 100 million of it away then I could do something. Since Jack bought Rovers the fans have had no say, the difference was that Jack made almost all the right decisions.[/p][/quote]Let me ask all a question here (and please take your B&W hats off. WRT contracts and clauses do you honestly believe ANY player has it in his head to sign infinatum to any cub, never mind BRFC for his whole career irrespective.??? Come on get real lads, virtual every club is a stepping stone to somewhere else on any footballers career ladder. Get into the real world. bring back the good old days
  • Score: 0

4:01pm Thu 14 Jun 12

bring back the good old days says...

RoversSwiss wrote:
Where are these assets they are stripping, they don't own Ewood or Brockhall. Phil Jones activated a buy out clause from a contract that John Williams negotiated, at least Samba wasn't sold to relegation rivals. Hoillet won't sign a new contract. Salgado, Roberts, Nelson etc went because of the strange "play 8 games" and you get another contract. A lot of money has come into the club, but the costs per year are what, 50 to 60 millions pounds a year? Eventually Venkys did pay off the overdraft and Rovers are one of the few clubs without massive debts.

It still seems to me that Venkys biggest crime is giving the managers job to the wrong man, getting advice from the worst person possible and going back on promises to invest in top players, probably because they realised Rovers can't afford top wages.

If Venkys do leave, they can't sell, where do we get the money from to keep the club going? I think that's a fair question that needs to be answered by all the people causing trouble at the ground. From their lofty perches of knowing everything, what is their grand plan for Rovers future after Venkys?

They keep saying it is to save the Rovers, from what and is going bankrupt worth proving a point?

On another page someone accused me of doing nothing to help Rovers, unfortunately there is not much difference a fan can make in modern football. If I had 500 or 600 million in the bank and the wife would let me throw 100 million of it away then I could do something. Since Jack bought Rovers the fans have had no say, the difference was that Jack made almost all the right decisions.
Let me ask all a question here (and please take your B&W hats off.
WRT contracts and clauses do you honestly believe ANY player has it in his head to sign infinatum to any cub, never mind BRFC for his whole career irrespective.???
Come on get real lads, virtual every club is a stepping stone to somewhere else on any footballers career ladder.

Get into the real world.
[quote][p][bold]RoversSwiss[/bold] wrote: Where are these assets they are stripping, they don't own Ewood or Brockhall. Phil Jones activated a buy out clause from a contract that John Williams negotiated, at least Samba wasn't sold to relegation rivals. Hoillet won't sign a new contract. Salgado, Roberts, Nelson etc went because of the strange "play 8 games" and you get another contract. A lot of money has come into the club, but the costs per year are what, 50 to 60 millions pounds a year? Eventually Venkys did pay off the overdraft and Rovers are one of the few clubs without massive debts. It still seems to me that Venkys biggest crime is giving the managers job to the wrong man, getting advice from the worst person possible and going back on promises to invest in top players, probably because they realised Rovers can't afford top wages. If Venkys do leave, they can't sell, where do we get the money from to keep the club going? I think that's a fair question that needs to be answered by all the people causing trouble at the ground. From their lofty perches of knowing everything, what is their grand plan for Rovers future after Venkys? They keep saying it is to save the Rovers, from what and is going bankrupt worth proving a point? On another page someone accused me of doing nothing to help Rovers, unfortunately there is not much difference a fan can make in modern football. If I had 500 or 600 million in the bank and the wife would let me throw 100 million of it away then I could do something. Since Jack bought Rovers the fans have had no say, the difference was that Jack made almost all the right decisions.[/p][/quote]Let me ask all a question here (and please take your B&W hats off. WRT contracts and clauses do you honestly believe ANY player has it in his head to sign infinatum to any cub, never mind BRFC for his whole career irrespective.??? Come on get real lads, virtual every club is a stepping stone to somewhere else on any footballers career ladder. Get into the real world. bring back the good old days
  • Score: 1

4:06pm Thu 14 Jun 12

bring back the good old days says...

RoversSwiss wrote:
Where are these assets they are stripping, they don't own Ewood or Brockhall. Phil Jones activated a buy out clause from a contract that John Williams negotiated, at least Samba wasn't sold to relegation rivals. Hoillet won't sign a new contract. Salgado, Roberts, Nelson etc went because of the strange "play 8 games" and you get another contract. A lot of money has come into the club, but the costs per year are what, 50 to 60 millions pounds a year? Eventually Venkys did pay off the overdraft and Rovers are one of the few clubs without massive debts.

It still seems to me that Venkys biggest crime is giving the managers job to the wrong man, getting advice from the worst person possible and going back on promises to invest in top players, probably because they realised Rovers can't afford top wages.

If Venkys do leave, they can't sell, where do we get the money from to keep the club going? I think that's a fair question that needs to be answered by all the people causing trouble at the ground. From their lofty perches of knowing everything, what is their grand plan for Rovers future after Venkys?

They keep saying it is to save the Rovers, from what and is going bankrupt worth proving a point?

On another page someone accused me of doing nothing to help Rovers, unfortunately there is not much difference a fan can make in modern football. If I had 500 or 600 million in the bank and the wife would let me throw 100 million of it away then I could do something. Since Jack bought Rovers the fans have had no say, the difference was that Jack made almost all the right decisions.
All fair points.
But the fact remains: Venkys are bad for BRFC.
[quote][p][bold]RoversSwiss[/bold] wrote: Where are these assets they are stripping, they don't own Ewood or Brockhall. Phil Jones activated a buy out clause from a contract that John Williams negotiated, at least Samba wasn't sold to relegation rivals. Hoillet won't sign a new contract. Salgado, Roberts, Nelson etc went because of the strange "play 8 games" and you get another contract. A lot of money has come into the club, but the costs per year are what, 50 to 60 millions pounds a year? Eventually Venkys did pay off the overdraft and Rovers are one of the few clubs without massive debts. It still seems to me that Venkys biggest crime is giving the managers job to the wrong man, getting advice from the worst person possible and going back on promises to invest in top players, probably because they realised Rovers can't afford top wages. If Venkys do leave, they can't sell, where do we get the money from to keep the club going? I think that's a fair question that needs to be answered by all the people causing trouble at the ground. From their lofty perches of knowing everything, what is their grand plan for Rovers future after Venkys? They keep saying it is to save the Rovers, from what and is going bankrupt worth proving a point? On another page someone accused me of doing nothing to help Rovers, unfortunately there is not much difference a fan can make in modern football. If I had 500 or 600 million in the bank and the wife would let me throw 100 million of it away then I could do something. Since Jack bought Rovers the fans have had no say, the difference was that Jack made almost all the right decisions.[/p][/quote]All fair points. But the fact remains: Venkys are bad for BRFC. bring back the good old days
  • Score: 1

4:07pm Thu 14 Jun 12

Keen O to Get Kean Out says...

bring back the good old days wrote:
RoversSwiss wrote: Where are these assets they are stripping, they don't own Ewood or Brockhall. Phil Jones activated a buy out clause from a contract that John Williams negotiated, at least Samba wasn't sold to relegation rivals. Hoillet won't sign a new contract. Salgado, Roberts, Nelson etc went because of the strange "play 8 games" and you get another contract. A lot of money has come into the club, but the costs per year are what, 50 to 60 millions pounds a year? Eventually Venkys did pay off the overdraft and Rovers are one of the few clubs without massive debts. It still seems to me that Venkys biggest crime is giving the managers job to the wrong man, getting advice from the worst person possible and going back on promises to invest in top players, probably because they realised Rovers can't afford top wages. If Venkys do leave, they can't sell, where do we get the money from to keep the club going? I think that's a fair question that needs to be answered by all the people causing trouble at the ground. From their lofty perches of knowing everything, what is their grand plan for Rovers future after Venkys? They keep saying it is to save the Rovers, from what and is going bankrupt worth proving a point? On another page someone accused me of doing nothing to help Rovers, unfortunately there is not much difference a fan can make in modern football. If I had 500 or 600 million in the bank and the wife would let me throw 100 million of it away then I could do something. Since Jack bought Rovers the fans have had no say, the difference was that Jack made almost all the right decisions.
Let me ask all a question here (and please take your B&W hats off. WRT contracts and clauses do you honestly believe ANY player has it in his head to sign infinatum to any cub, never mind BRFC for his whole career irrespective.??? Come on get real lads, virtual every club is a stepping stone to somewhere else on any footballers career ladder. Get into the real world.
your 100% right , players will use us as a ladder, but we accept it happens, Big Sam held on to our stars to keep us in the top ten tho,, man management its called,,
[quote][p][bold]bring back the good old days[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversSwiss[/bold] wrote: Where are these assets they are stripping, they don't own Ewood or Brockhall. Phil Jones activated a buy out clause from a contract that John Williams negotiated, at least Samba wasn't sold to relegation rivals. Hoillet won't sign a new contract. Salgado, Roberts, Nelson etc went because of the strange "play 8 games" and you get another contract. A lot of money has come into the club, but the costs per year are what, 50 to 60 millions pounds a year? Eventually Venkys did pay off the overdraft and Rovers are one of the few clubs without massive debts. It still seems to me that Venkys biggest crime is giving the managers job to the wrong man, getting advice from the worst person possible and going back on promises to invest in top players, probably because they realised Rovers can't afford top wages. If Venkys do leave, they can't sell, where do we get the money from to keep the club going? I think that's a fair question that needs to be answered by all the people causing trouble at the ground. From their lofty perches of knowing everything, what is their grand plan for Rovers future after Venkys? They keep saying it is to save the Rovers, from what and is going bankrupt worth proving a point? On another page someone accused me of doing nothing to help Rovers, unfortunately there is not much difference a fan can make in modern football. If I had 500 or 600 million in the bank and the wife would let me throw 100 million of it away then I could do something. Since Jack bought Rovers the fans have had no say, the difference was that Jack made almost all the right decisions.[/p][/quote]Let me ask all a question here (and please take your B&W hats off. WRT contracts and clauses do you honestly believe ANY player has it in his head to sign infinatum to any cub, never mind BRFC for his whole career irrespective.??? Come on get real lads, virtual every club is a stepping stone to somewhere else on any footballers career ladder. Get into the real world.[/p][/quote]your 100% right , players will use us as a ladder, but we accept it happens, Big Sam held on to our stars to keep us in the top ten tho,, man management its called,, Keen O to Get Kean Out
  • Score: -1

4:09pm Thu 14 Jun 12

bring back the good old days says...

thetop5 wrote:
There is a contradiction here; why keep players when they were not good enough resulting in Rovers being relegated?

That is, unless they were good enough and badly managed, in which case the manager has to go.

I cannot understand why Venky's don't understand this simple fact. Someone is to blame for being relegated and has to take the responsibility. If you hang onto your players AND manager Blackburn will never get back into the premier league. It is very black and white.
That manager, that squad has NO chance of promotion.
[quote][p][bold]thetop5[/bold] wrote: There is a contradiction here; why keep players when they were not good enough resulting in Rovers being relegated? That is, unless they were good enough and badly managed, in which case the manager has to go. I cannot understand why Venky's don't understand this simple fact. Someone is to blame for being relegated and has to take the responsibility. If you hang onto your players AND manager Blackburn will never get back into the premier league. It is very black and white.[/p][/quote]That manager, that squad has NO chance of promotion. bring back the good old days
  • Score: 2

4:12pm Thu 14 Jun 12

Keen O to Get Kean Out says...

bring back the good old days wrote:
thetop5 wrote: There is a contradiction here; why keep players when they were not good enough resulting in Rovers being relegated? That is, unless they were good enough and badly managed, in which case the manager has to go. I cannot understand why Venky's don't understand this simple fact. Someone is to blame for being relegated and has to take the responsibility. If you hang onto your players AND manager Blackburn will never get back into the premier league. It is very black and white.
That manager, that squad has NO chance of promotion.
agreed, but even worse, with our manager we will get relegated AGAIN !!! remeber leeds
[quote][p][bold]bring back the good old days[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thetop5[/bold] wrote: There is a contradiction here; why keep players when they were not good enough resulting in Rovers being relegated? That is, unless they were good enough and badly managed, in which case the manager has to go. I cannot understand why Venky's don't understand this simple fact. Someone is to blame for being relegated and has to take the responsibility. If you hang onto your players AND manager Blackburn will never get back into the premier league. It is very black and white.[/p][/quote]That manager, that squad has NO chance of promotion.[/p][/quote]agreed, but even worse, with our manager we will get relegated AGAIN !!! remeber leeds Keen O to Get Kean Out
  • Score: 2

4:12pm Thu 14 Jun 12

fickle fan says...

bring back the good old days wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
vicn1956 wrote:
"Why on earth they bothered to buy the club." We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££



££££££££££



££££££££££



££££££££

They are still in shock and confused- every word they say we take with a pinch of salt. To them lying seems as natural as breathing.

All the media luvvies are quiet about recommending kean for the Spurs job- or has their agent/s not told them to?
We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ £££££
If they bought the club, paid off the debt and gave the manager 20m to spend on players how are they making money,
The clause in Jones` contract was not their doing and Samba refused to play.
If you truly believe all that has happened is accidental - god help us!!!
Where does any of the above mention anything being accidental
[quote][p][bold]bring back the good old days[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vicn1956[/bold] wrote: "Why on earth they bothered to buy the club." We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££ They are still in shock and confused- every word they say we take with a pinch of salt. To them lying seems as natural as breathing. All the media luvvies are quiet about recommending kean for the Spurs job- or has their agent/s not told them to?[/p][/quote]We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ £££££ If they bought the club, paid off the debt and gave the manager 20m to spend on players how are they making money, The clause in Jones` contract was not their doing and Samba refused to play.[/p][/quote]If you truly believe all that has happened is accidental - god help us!!![/p][/quote]Where does any of the above mention anything being accidental fickle fan
  • Score: -1

4:18pm Thu 14 Jun 12

bypass06 says...

RoversSwiss wrote:
Where are these assets they are stripping, they don't own Ewood or Brockhall. Phil Jones activated a buy out clause from a contract that John Williams negotiated, at least Samba wasn't sold to relegation rivals. Hoillet won't sign a new contract. Salgado, Roberts, Nelson etc went because of the strange "play 8 games" and you get another contract. A lot of money has come into the club, but the costs per year are what, 50 to 60 millions pounds a year? Eventually Venkys did pay off the overdraft and Rovers are one of the few clubs without massive debts.

It still seems to me that Venkys biggest crime is giving the managers job to the wrong man, getting advice from the worst person possible and going back on promises to invest in top players, probably because they realised Rovers can't afford top wages.

If Venkys do leave, they can't sell, where do we get the money from to keep the club going? I think that's a fair question that needs to be answered by all the people causing trouble at the ground. From their lofty perches of knowing everything, what is their grand plan for Rovers future after Venkys?

They keep saying it is to save the Rovers, from what and is going bankrupt worth proving a point?

On another page someone accused me of doing nothing to help Rovers, unfortunately there is not much difference a fan can make in modern football. If I had 500 or 600 million in the bank and the wife would let me throw 100 million of it away then I could do something. Since Jack bought Rovers the fans have had no say, the difference was that Jack made almost all the right decisions.
On another page someone accused me of doing nothing to help Rovers, unfortunately there is not much difference a fan can make in modern football.

I'm glad the Action Group don't share your opinion.
[quote][p][bold]RoversSwiss[/bold] wrote: Where are these assets they are stripping, they don't own Ewood or Brockhall. Phil Jones activated a buy out clause from a contract that John Williams negotiated, at least Samba wasn't sold to relegation rivals. Hoillet won't sign a new contract. Salgado, Roberts, Nelson etc went because of the strange "play 8 games" and you get another contract. A lot of money has come into the club, but the costs per year are what, 50 to 60 millions pounds a year? Eventually Venkys did pay off the overdraft and Rovers are one of the few clubs without massive debts. It still seems to me that Venkys biggest crime is giving the managers job to the wrong man, getting advice from the worst person possible and going back on promises to invest in top players, probably because they realised Rovers can't afford top wages. If Venkys do leave, they can't sell, where do we get the money from to keep the club going? I think that's a fair question that needs to be answered by all the people causing trouble at the ground. From their lofty perches of knowing everything, what is their grand plan for Rovers future after Venkys? They keep saying it is to save the Rovers, from what and is going bankrupt worth proving a point? On another page someone accused me of doing nothing to help Rovers, unfortunately there is not much difference a fan can make in modern football. If I had 500 or 600 million in the bank and the wife would let me throw 100 million of it away then I could do something. Since Jack bought Rovers the fans have had no say, the difference was that Jack made almost all the right decisions.[/p][/quote]On another page someone accused me of doing nothing to help Rovers, unfortunately there is not much difference a fan can make in modern football. I'm glad the Action Group don't share your opinion. bypass06
  • Score: 3

5:06pm Thu 14 Jun 12

makaveli96 says...

Honestly you couldnt make it up!

A MAN called Jerome!!

Whatever happened with Bob, Bill, Tom, Fred and Jack!

What next, a dancer called Shibby?
Honestly you couldnt make it up! A MAN called Jerome!! Whatever happened with Bob, Bill, Tom, Fred and Jack! What next, a dancer called Shibby? makaveli96
  • Score: 0

5:08pm Thu 14 Jun 12

makaveli96 says...

Bobby Saxton, Jimmy Quinn, standing up in the Blackburn end, real mens songs!

Were did it all go wrong......
Bobby Saxton, Jimmy Quinn, standing up in the Blackburn end, real mens songs! Were did it all go wrong...... makaveli96
  • Score: 0

5:11pm Thu 14 Jun 12

makaveli96 says...

The Fountain, the Queens Park WMC, The Waterside, The Jubillee.........

There will soon be girly wine bars in our town, you wait and see.......
The Fountain, the Queens Park WMC, The Waterside, The Jubillee......... There will soon be girly wine bars in our town, you wait and see....... makaveli96
  • Score: 0

5:12pm Thu 14 Jun 12

makaveli96 says...

Smoking at work, drinking on a Friday dinner, your tea being on the table at 4.45pm sharp, Chippy Tea friday, Bullseye, where did it all go wrong........
Smoking at work, drinking on a Friday dinner, your tea being on the table at 4.45pm sharp, Chippy Tea friday, Bullseye, where did it all go wrong........ makaveli96
  • Score: 1

5:14pm Thu 14 Jun 12

lowelife says...

maltese blue n white wrote:
I hated it every time the odious toad Kean opened his mouth, but his silence really had me scared for a while, but not to worry, I've worked it out, he's not been silenced, nor doing anything underhand, he's responding to the 500 letters a week he gets in support of his management abilities.. now I've sorted that out for ya it's back to the prozac washed down with vodka for me... ciao ciao...
Don't worry, Kean will be the new manager at Spurs within days! His odious self belief will ensure he is annointed.
[quote][p][bold]maltese blue n white[/bold] wrote: I hated it every time the odious toad Kean opened his mouth, but his silence really had me scared for a while, but not to worry, I've worked it out, he's not been silenced, nor doing anything underhand, he's responding to the 500 letters a week he gets in support of his management abilities.. now I've sorted that out for ya it's back to the prozac washed down with vodka for me... ciao ciao...[/p][/quote]Don't worry, Kean will be the new manager at Spurs within days! His odious self belief will ensure he is annointed. lowelife
  • Score: 0

5:18pm Thu 14 Jun 12

makaveli96 says...

Can you honestly imagine going the Toll Bar in 1985, ordering a white wine and soda, wearing a suit, talking with a southern accent, and telling people your a "footballers representative".....
......
Can you honestly imagine going the Toll Bar in 1985, ordering a white wine and soda, wearing a suit, talking with a southern accent, and telling people your a "footballers representative"..... ...... makaveli96
  • Score: 0

5:20pm Thu 14 Jun 12

makaveli96 says...

When me, Shorrock and Heapy ran Nottingham Street in the 80s, there was no such thing as telling your mum (or your lawyer)!
When me, Shorrock and Heapy ran Nottingham Street in the 80s, there was no such thing as telling your mum (or your lawyer)! makaveli96
  • Score: 0

5:31pm Thu 14 Jun 12

bburnrover says...

The Venkeys wont make any money out of Rovers in fact they are likely to lose a fortune.
I compare it to a lottery winner purchasing a F1 car and expecting to win the drivers championship with Fred Bloggs from the pits driving it.

The differenc here is that we the club's supporters are being deprived of supporting our team as we carry out our boycott of the club to indicate to the owners that they have to replace Fred Bloggs or in this case Kean.
The plain facts are we have a commuications manager who seems dumb and nothing is communicated from him.The guy must know our feelings so must be scared of relating them to Desai who seems to me to be a brainless effigy that sits in India whilst her non actions result in the declie of a once proud Premiership team.
Steve Kean or whoever is next seasons manager needs to sell the wanna leave brigade and start replacing them with players capable in the 2nd division exactly just like he did last transfer close season.
All we want is a new manager with a new team with half a chance of winning the league.
The Venkeys wont make any money out of Rovers in fact they are likely to lose a fortune. I compare it to a lottery winner purchasing a F1 car and expecting to win the drivers championship with Fred Bloggs from the pits driving it. The differenc here is that we the club's supporters are being deprived of supporting our team as we carry out our boycott of the club to indicate to the owners that they have to replace Fred Bloggs or in this case Kean. The plain facts are we have a commuications manager who seems dumb and nothing is communicated from him.The guy must know our feelings so must be scared of relating them to Desai who seems to me to be a brainless effigy that sits in India whilst her non actions result in the declie of a once proud Premiership team. Steve Kean or whoever is next seasons manager needs to sell the wanna leave brigade and start replacing them with players capable in the 2nd division exactly just like he did last transfer close season. All we want is a new manager with a new team with half a chance of winning the league. bburnrover
  • Score: 0

5:37pm Thu 14 Jun 12

juanbbien says...

The whole Bloody worlds gone barmy,I grew up with the notion of you get a proper job ie Joiner, Plumber, Electrician, Mechanic now it's all Computors,kids thinking that life is Bloody X factor,virtual reality instead of reality,and football as gone the same way oh for the good old days go down watch the game wait for the Last Pink to be delivered enjoy your tea and look forward to the next game,no Kean, Venkys,over paid prima donnas all gone I'm afraid.
The whole Bloody worlds gone barmy,I grew up with the notion of you get a proper job ie Joiner, Plumber, Electrician, Mechanic now it's all Computors,kids thinking that life is Bloody X factor,virtual reality instead of reality,and football as gone the same way oh for the good old days go down watch the game wait for the Last Pink to be delivered enjoy your tea and look forward to the next game,no Kean, Venkys,over paid prima donnas all gone I'm afraid. juanbbien
  • Score: 4

5:54pm Thu 14 Jun 12

guiderover says...

When all our (so called)top players leave,who in the right mind would join the circus at Ewood?You may get a player on his last legs,with no other clubs interested.What about another Bruno or Myles to set the world alight.Well sorry youth team,but it looks as though you'll be spending your time with a certain Mr Kean.Good luck and my deepest sympathy.
When all our (so called)top players leave,who in the right mind would join the circus at Ewood?You may get a player on his last legs,with no other clubs interested.What about another Bruno or Myles to set the world alight.Well sorry youth team,but it looks as though you'll be spending your time with a certain Mr Kean.Good luck and my deepest sympathy. guiderover
  • Score: 2

6:26pm Thu 14 Jun 12

Mattrovers says...

If we as a fan base had been strong enough and not had all the protests, the players would have performed on the pitch. Our own stupidity has cost us the PL.... I say we get behind the team and the management group and support them through this..... Rovers till I die..
If we as a fan base had been strong enough and not had all the protests, the players would have performed on the pitch. Our own stupidity has cost us the PL.... I say we get behind the team and the management group and support them through this..... Rovers till I die.. Mattrovers
  • Score: -6

6:27pm Thu 14 Jun 12

stick to football says...

Sadly Venkys believe the only person speaking the truth in Blackburn is the Manager.

You are right in what you say but Venkys are too busy thinking to read comment from locals - so again it will be the rump of fans who suffer.
Vebkys may realise that what the fans were saying was true and if means selling Olssen to pay off Kean do it NOW.

Another 12 months like the last 18 months of no direction no leadership and no harmony between fans and the club is a recipe for an even bigger disaster than they have overseen so far
Sadly Venkys believe the only person speaking the truth in Blackburn is the Manager. You are right in what you say but Venkys are too busy thinking to read comment from locals - so again it will be the rump of fans who suffer. Vebkys may realise that what the fans were saying was true and if means selling Olssen to pay off Kean do it NOW. Another 12 months like the last 18 months of no direction no leadership and no harmony between fans and the club is a recipe for an even bigger disaster than they have overseen so far stick to football
  • Score: 3

6:31pm Thu 14 Jun 12

benal13 says...

Mattrovers wrote:
If we as a fan base had been strong enough and not had all the protests, the players would have performed on the pitch. Our own stupidity has cost us the PL.... I say we get behind the team and the management group and support them through this..... Rovers till I die..
SHUT IT YOU IDIOT
[quote][p][bold]Mattrovers[/bold] wrote: If we as a fan base had been strong enough and not had all the protests, the players would have performed on the pitch. Our own stupidity has cost us the PL.... I say we get behind the team and the management group and support them through this..... Rovers till I die..[/p][/quote]SHUT IT YOU IDIOT benal13
  • Score: 1

6:34pm Thu 14 Jun 12

Mattrovers says...

benal13 wrote:
Mattrovers wrote:
If we as a fan base had been strong enough and not had all the protests, the players would have performed on the pitch. Our own stupidity has cost us the PL.... I say we get behind the team and the management group and support them through this..... Rovers till I die..
SHUT IT YOU IDIOT
Why " benal13" cant i have a opinion...... I have my opinion and you ave yours lets agree to disagree.....
[quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mattrovers[/bold] wrote: If we as a fan base had been strong enough and not had all the protests, the players would have performed on the pitch. Our own stupidity has cost us the PL.... I say we get behind the team and the management group and support them through this..... Rovers till I die..[/p][/quote]SHUT IT YOU IDIOT[/p][/quote]Why " benal13" cant i have a opinion...... I have my opinion and you ave yours lets agree to disagree..... Mattrovers
  • Score: -2

6:37pm Thu 14 Jun 12

guiderover says...

Mattrovers wrote:
If we as a fan base had been strong enough and not had all the protests, the players would have performed on the pitch. Our own stupidity has cost us the PL.... I say we get behind the team and the management group and support them through this..... Rovers till I die..
Correct me if Im wrong Matt,but the Rovers fans supported the players and they new it.If your quite happy to support this regime,thats your choice.No way will I go until the owners have been removed.
[quote][p][bold]Mattrovers[/bold] wrote: If we as a fan base had been strong enough and not had all the protests, the players would have performed on the pitch. Our own stupidity has cost us the PL.... I say we get behind the team and the management group and support them through this..... Rovers till I die..[/p][/quote]Correct me if Im wrong Matt,but the Rovers fans supported the players and they new it.If your quite happy to support this regime,thats your choice.No way will I go until the owners have been removed. guiderover
  • Score: 4

6:38pm Thu 14 Jun 12

Mattrovers says...

GuideRover, agreed thats a choice you make......
GuideRover, agreed thats a choice you make...... Mattrovers
  • Score: -1

6:41pm Thu 14 Jun 12

Keen O to Get Kean Out says...

guiderover wrote:
Mattrovers wrote:
If we as a fan base had been strong enough and not had all the protests, the players would have performed on the pitch. Our own stupidity has cost us the PL.... I say we get behind the team and the management group and support them through this..... Rovers till I die..
Correct me if Im wrong Matt,but the Rovers fans supported the players and they new it.If your quite happy to support this regime,thats your choice.No way will I go until the owners have been removed.
i agree, the fans were behind the team, and even if we had 70,000 fans like newcastle for expample our fate was doomed, unfortunatley ive been to india and seen how they treat human beings,, the fans are not imprortant to venkys... yet !!
[quote][p][bold]guiderover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mattrovers[/bold] wrote: If we as a fan base had been strong enough and not had all the protests, the players would have performed on the pitch. Our own stupidity has cost us the PL.... I say we get behind the team and the management group and support them through this..... Rovers till I die..[/p][/quote]Correct me if Im wrong Matt,but the Rovers fans supported the players and they new it.If your quite happy to support this regime,thats your choice.No way will I go until the owners have been removed.[/p][/quote]i agree, the fans were behind the team, and even if we had 70,000 fans like newcastle for expample our fate was doomed, unfortunatley ive been to india and seen how they treat human beings,, the fans are not imprortant to venkys... yet !! Keen O to Get Kean Out
  • Score: 2

6:52pm Thu 14 Jun 12

Langho blue says...

Mattrovers wrote:
If we as a fan base had been strong enough and not had all the protests, the players would have performed on the pitch. Our own stupidity has cost us the PL.... I say we get behind the team and the management group and support them through this..... Rovers till I die..
That's right it was the fans that brought in a bunch of mediocre foreign kids.

It was the fans that continually lost games through poor tactics and substitutions.

It was the fans that froze or sold all the experienced players.

It was the protests that caused all the dire away performances like WBA, Swansea and lets not forget, Tottenham.

You're either a complete muppet or dingle.
[quote][p][bold]Mattrovers[/bold] wrote: If we as a fan base had been strong enough and not had all the protests, the players would have performed on the pitch. Our own stupidity has cost us the PL.... I say we get behind the team and the management group and support them through this..... Rovers till I die..[/p][/quote]That's right it was the fans that brought in a bunch of mediocre foreign kids. It was the fans that continually lost games through poor tactics and substitutions. It was the fans that froze or sold all the experienced players. It was the protests that caused all the dire away performances like WBA, Swansea and lets not forget, Tottenham. You're either a complete muppet or dingle. Langho blue
  • Score: 3

7:00pm Thu 14 Jun 12

Sherwoodforest says...

makaveli96 wrote:
Can you honestly imagine going the Toll Bar in 1985, ordering a white wine and soda, wearing a suit, talking with a southern accent, and telling people your a "footballers representative".....

......
lol i got a hatchet job off the Boyle Bros (toll bar) while playing for Mill Hill St Peters
[quote][p][bold]makaveli96[/bold] wrote: Can you honestly imagine going the Toll Bar in 1985, ordering a white wine and soda, wearing a suit, talking with a southern accent, and telling people your a "footballers representative"..... ......[/p][/quote]lol i got a hatchet job off the Boyle Bros (toll bar) while playing for Mill Hill St Peters Sherwoodforest
  • Score: 0

7:02pm Thu 14 Jun 12

Sherwoodforest says...

Langho blue wrote:
Mattrovers wrote:
If we as a fan base had been strong enough and not had all the protests, the players would have performed on the pitch. Our own stupidity has cost us the PL.... I say we get behind the team and the management group and support them through this..... Rovers till I die..
That's right it was the fans that brought in a bunch of mediocre foreign kids.

It was the fans that continually lost games through poor tactics and substitutions.

It was the fans that froze or sold all the experienced players.

It was the protests that caused all the dire away performances like WBA, Swansea and lets not forget, Tottenham.

You're either a complete muppet or dingle.
or both??
[quote][p][bold]Langho blue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mattrovers[/bold] wrote: If we as a fan base had been strong enough and not had all the protests, the players would have performed on the pitch. Our own stupidity has cost us the PL.... I say we get behind the team and the management group and support them through this..... Rovers till I die..[/p][/quote]That's right it was the fans that brought in a bunch of mediocre foreign kids. It was the fans that continually lost games through poor tactics and substitutions. It was the fans that froze or sold all the experienced players. It was the protests that caused all the dire away performances like WBA, Swansea and lets not forget, Tottenham. You're either a complete muppet or dingle.[/p][/quote]or both?? Sherwoodforest
  • Score: 1

7:12pm Thu 14 Jun 12

Road Runner Road Runner says...

Interesting reading on the BBC web page regards the Malaysian owners of Cardiff.

We could be so lucky !
Interesting reading on the BBC web page regards the Malaysian owners of Cardiff. We could be so lucky ! Road Runner Road Runner
  • Score: 0

7:13pm Thu 14 Jun 12

Mattrovers says...

Sherwoodforest wrote:
Langho blue wrote:
Mattrovers wrote:
If we as a fan base had been strong enough and not had all the protests, the players would have performed on the pitch. Our own stupidity has cost us the PL.... I say we get behind the team and the management group and support them through this..... Rovers till I die..
That's right it was the fans that brought in a bunch of mediocre foreign kids.

It was the fans that continually lost games through poor tactics and substitutions.

It was the fans that froze or sold all the experienced players.

It was the protests that caused all the dire away performances like WBA, Swansea and lets not forget, Tottenham.

You're either a complete muppet or dingle.
or both??
Neither you muppets, just a fan with an opinion. Certainly brighter than you muppets..
[quote][p][bold]Sherwoodforest[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Langho blue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mattrovers[/bold] wrote: If we as a fan base had been strong enough and not had all the protests, the players would have performed on the pitch. Our own stupidity has cost us the PL.... I say we get behind the team and the management group and support them through this..... Rovers till I die..[/p][/quote]That's right it was the fans that brought in a bunch of mediocre foreign kids. It was the fans that continually lost games through poor tactics and substitutions. It was the fans that froze or sold all the experienced players. It was the protests that caused all the dire away performances like WBA, Swansea and lets not forget, Tottenham. You're either a complete muppet or dingle.[/p][/quote]or both??[/p][/quote]Neither you muppets, just a fan with an opinion. Certainly brighter than you muppets.. Mattrovers
  • Score: -2

7:13pm Thu 14 Jun 12

benal13 says...

Mattrovers wrote:
benal13 wrote:
Mattrovers wrote:
If we as a fan base had been strong enough and not had all the protests, the players would have performed on the pitch. Our own stupidity has cost us the PL.... I say we get behind the team and the management group and support them through this..... Rovers till I die..
SHUT IT YOU IDIOT
Why " benal13" cant i have a opinion...... I have my opinion and you ave yours lets agree to disagree.....
NO LETS AGREE THAT YOUR A DINGLE
[quote][p][bold]Mattrovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mattrovers[/bold] wrote: If we as a fan base had been strong enough and not had all the protests, the players would have performed on the pitch. Our own stupidity has cost us the PL.... I say we get behind the team and the management group and support them through this..... Rovers till I die..[/p][/quote]SHUT IT YOU IDIOT[/p][/quote]Why " benal13" cant i have a opinion...... I have my opinion and you ave yours lets agree to disagree.....[/p][/quote]NO LETS AGREE THAT YOUR A DINGLE benal13
  • Score: 1

7:21pm Thu 14 Jun 12

Mattrovers says...

I am rovers till I die, I beat the drum in the blackburn end and sing " get into um, get into um "
I am rovers till I die, I beat the drum in the blackburn end and sing " get into um, get into um " Mattrovers
  • Score: -2

7:31pm Thu 14 Jun 12

ivegillian says...

Hello Mr Agnew - I have been away for a few days so not sure if you have made any kind of announcements about our club. I suspect you have not. Surely you are not still on holiday?

Do you still not understand - our club is four square sitting inside the biggest crisis it as ever faced - but you cannot be contacted and you are not contacting the people that really count to a football club - its supporters.

I say 'supporters' but the reality is that thousands of us no longer support the version of the club as it exists today - your version, the Venkys version, ...... and the version symbolised by the one person we really do not want to be associated with - Mr Kean.

A whole host of top football management jobs are available elsewhere or soon will be - Spurs, Birmingham, Norwich, Rangers etc - but I will mortgage the house on the probability that not one club in any one of the divisions will approach Rovers for the services of Mr Kean.

Do you know why - not only is he probably the worst football manager I have seen in over 40 years - but he is not trusted by one single supporter of our club. How damning can that be.

He has relegated our club, he has oversold the potential of players he bought (?), he has driven supporters away from the club they love - but worst of all he has pulled the club down to a level that Jack Walker would not be able to recognise. Truly disgusting.

Get rid of him - there is no other alternative.
Hello Mr Agnew - I have been away for a few days so not sure if you have made any kind of announcements about our club. I suspect you have not. Surely you are not still on holiday? Do you still not understand - our club is four square sitting inside the biggest crisis it as ever faced - but you cannot be contacted and you are not contacting the people that really count to a football club - its supporters. I say 'supporters' but the reality is that thousands of us no longer support the version of the club as it exists today - your version, the Venkys version, ...... and the version symbolised by the one person we really do not want to be associated with - Mr Kean. A whole host of top football management jobs are available elsewhere or soon will be - Spurs, Birmingham, Norwich, Rangers etc - but I will mortgage the house on the probability that not one club in any one of the divisions will approach Rovers for the services of Mr Kean. Do you know why - not only is he probably the worst football manager I have seen in over 40 years - but he is not trusted by one single supporter of our club. How damning can that be. He has relegated our club, he has oversold the potential of players he bought (?), he has driven supporters away from the club they love - but worst of all he has pulled the club down to a level that Jack Walker would not be able to recognise. Truly disgusting. Get rid of him - there is no other alternative. ivegillian
  • Score: 5

7:33pm Thu 14 Jun 12

alfa111 says...

Rovers 1495 wrote:
"Unless a real budget is handed to the manager to strengthen, they can forget promotion."

Could you remind us who the manager is ? As far as I'm aware, we haven't received any official statement as yet. Or did I miss something ?
Unless a real budget is handed to a NEW MANAGER forget promotion.
[quote][p][bold]Rovers 1495[/bold] wrote: "Unless a real budget is handed to the manager to strengthen, they can forget promotion." Could you remind us who the manager is ? As far as I'm aware, we haven't received any official statement as yet. Or did I miss something ?[/p][/quote]Unless a real budget is handed to a NEW MANAGER forget promotion. alfa111
  • Score: 2

7:38pm Thu 14 Jun 12

YarkshahRover says...

Rovers 1495 wrote:
"Unless a real budget is handed to the manager to strengthen, they can forget promotion."

Could you remind us who the manager is ? As far as I'm aware, we haven't received any official statement as yet. Or did I miss something ?
He's been the trainee manager for eighteen months or so now. There has been no change. No confirmation is necessary. Businesses do not usually put out press releases to confirm that nothing has happened. Nothing is happening and so they don't feel it necessay to make any further comment after their announcement that they are in a state of confusion. One must assume that they have not come of that yet.
[quote][p][bold]Rovers 1495[/bold] wrote: "Unless a real budget is handed to the manager to strengthen, they can forget promotion." Could you remind us who the manager is ? As far as I'm aware, we haven't received any official statement as yet. Or did I miss something ?[/p][/quote]He's been the trainee manager for eighteen months or so now. There has been no change. No confirmation is necessary. Businesses do not usually put out press releases to confirm that nothing has happened. Nothing is happening and so they don't feel it necessay to make any further comment after their announcement that they are in a state of confusion. One must assume that they have not come of that yet. YarkshahRover
  • Score: 3

8:05pm Thu 14 Jun 12

1rover says...

get kean out agnew out and venky and anderson and son
get kean out agnew out and venky and anderson and son 1rover
  • Score: 3

8:07pm Thu 14 Jun 12

gembeli says...

The last bit of info from venkys told us they were confused,and that no decision had been made regarding the managers position.
I cannot remember anyone telling us what decision they came to. So Mr.Cryer why do you keep refering to Kean as "the manager".You should stop this immediatley,and confront kean and agnew for an answer.
While your at it,you mayalso ask,"who is running the club

Who is advising venkys

Who is going to get their fingers out and getsome work done.
The last bit of info from venkys told us they were confused,and that no decision had been made regarding the managers position. I cannot remember anyone telling us what decision they came to. So Mr.Cryer why do you keep refering to Kean as "the manager".You should stop this immediatley,and confront kean and agnew for an answer. While your at it,you mayalso ask,"who is running the club Who is advising venkys Who is going to get their fingers out and getsome work done. gembeli
  • Score: 4

8:15pm Thu 14 Jun 12

BlueSkies says...

go to www.sportingintellig
ence.com

A report on there about meetings this week of BRFCAG in London with Sports Minister and FA.

Also, an open letter to Jerome Anderson about his role at the club.

It might answer a few questions for some on here.

Well done to the Action Group and all other parties involved in these meetings and the gathering of relevant information.

We're proud of you.
go to www.sportingintellig ence.com A report on there about meetings this week of BRFCAG in London with Sports Minister and FA. Also, an open letter to Jerome Anderson about his role at the club. It might answer a few questions for some on here. Well done to the Action Group and all other parties involved in these meetings and the gathering of relevant information. We're proud of you. BlueSkies
  • Score: 3

8:16pm Thu 14 Jun 12

bypass06 says...

Sporting Intelligence view and copy of letter sent to Mr Anderson

http://www.sportingi
ntelligence.com/2012
/06/14/blackburn-fan
s-given-boost-by-mps
-and-fa-and-ask-ande
rson-for-answers-140
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Sporting Intelligence view and copy of letter sent to Mr Anderson http://www.sportingi ntelligence.com/2012 /06/14/blackburn-fan s-given-boost-by-mps -and-fa-and-ask-ande rson-for-answers-140 601/ bypass06
  • Score: 1

8:31pm Thu 14 Jun 12

BlueSkies says...

Mattrovers wrote:
I am rovers till I die, I beat the drum in the blackburn end and sing " get into um, get into um "
Definitely from the dark side of the M65 is our Matt.
.
Matt, "you're fired!"
[quote][p][bold]Mattrovers[/bold] wrote: I am rovers till I die, I beat the drum in the blackburn end and sing " get into um, get into um "[/p][/quote]Definitely from the dark side of the M65 is our Matt. . Matt, "you're fired!" BlueSkies
  • Score: 0

8:52pm Thu 14 Jun 12

alfa111 says...

gembeli wrote:
The last bit of info from venkys told us they were confused,and that no decision had been made regarding the managers position.
I cannot remember anyone telling us what decision they came to. So Mr.Cryer why do you keep refering to Kean as "the manager".You should stop this immediatley,and confront kean and agnew for an answer.
While your at it,you mayalso ask,"who is running the club

Who is advising venkys

Who is going to get their fingers out and getsome work done.
Think kean himself told all that he will still be manager for next season, regardless of venkys whimp RAO saying nothing has been decided.
[quote][p][bold]gembeli[/bold] wrote: The last bit of info from venkys told us they were confused,and that no decision had been made regarding the managers position. I cannot remember anyone telling us what decision they came to. So Mr.Cryer why do you keep refering to Kean as "the manager".You should stop this immediatley,and confront kean and agnew for an answer. While your at it,you mayalso ask,"who is running the club Who is advising venkys Who is going to get their fingers out and getsome work done.[/p][/quote]Think kean himself told all that he will still be manager for next season, regardless of venkys whimp RAO saying nothing has been decided. alfa111
  • Score: 0

9:33pm Thu 14 Jun 12

kazz says...

As a group of Blackburn fans return to Lancashire this evening after three days of meetings in London with MPs and the FA about the plight of their club, Sportingintelligence publishes a letter, in full below, sent last week by the same campaigners to Jerome Anderson, the agent of Rovers’ manager, Steve Kean.
The letter appeals to Anderson for help, seeking answers to 23 questions relating to why Blackburn has been run in the way it has since Venky’s took over.
Glen Mullan, the chair of the BRFC Action Group, writes in the letter: “You have consistently said in public that you have the best interests of Rovers and the fans at heart. If this indeed is true, then please help.”
The letters seeks clarity about the precise role that Anderson played at the club. Anderson has spoken about sleeping at the training ground as he worked on club business in January 2011.
Anderson has consistently and strenuously insisted that he has had no hands-on role at Blackburn whatsoever since the end of the January 2011 transfer window.
Mullan explains in the letter that the fans are frustrated at a lack of answers from anyone connected with the club, hence the appeal to Anderson. No response has been forthcoming yet.
On Wednesday, the Action Group met in Westminster with lifelong Rovers fan and local MP, Jack Straw, as well as with two other local MPs, Graham Jones and Jake Berry.
The group then attended at a private 45-minute meeting with sports minister Hugh Robertson, who listened to their concerns about what’s happened to Rovers.
It is understood the fans passed over hundreds of pages of paperwork outlining their concerns, and asked if Robertson could investigate whether better football governance might have prevented the mess at Ewood Park.
It is understood that the group, together with the MPs, will prepare a specific list of questions about the ownership of the club, the influence upon the decision-making processes by external parties at different points, and how certain contracts were drawn up.
Robertson is believed to have promised that he will seek answers from the relevant authorities on these matters.
The fans had already had a private meeting with Premier League chief executive Richard Scudamore. Today they met at Wembley with senior FA officials who work on compliance issues at the governing body.
Mullan told Sportingintelligence this evening: “We’re ecstatic simply to have had these meetings to state our concerns to people who have real power to help us find answers.
“To be able to go to Parliament and be given a platform to talk shows us that there are people willing to listen. We’ve handed over all kinds of information, and if the MPs, the FA, the Premier League or a combination of all of them can use their resources and expertise to help us find some answers, it will have been worth it.
“We’re just seeking honest answers to basic questions about our own football club. What we’re really pleased about this week is that people with clout are now putting their weight behind our cause.”
Aside from on-pitch failings that led to Rovers’ relegation, the fans’ major concerns revolve around where the power at Rovers really lies; why senior executives are apparently impotent in key decisions at the club; why Kean remains manager despite results over 18 months worse than many peers who’ve been fired while doing better; whether the authorities have any ongoing concerns over the way transfers have been conducted; and what if any concerns those authorities have had in the past 18 months.
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AN ARCHIVE OF Rovers STORIES IS HERE
Follow SPORTINGINTELLIGENCE on Twitter
Sportingintelligence home page
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Letter from Blackburn Rovers FC Action Group to Jerome Anderson, 6 June 2012
Dear Mr Anderson,
I’m writing to you today in the hope that you may be able to help Blackburn fans understand what is going on at our club.
Nobody with any connection or affection for the club can fail to see that something has gone very badly wrong at Rovers since Venky’s took over, although the exact reasons remain unclear.
We as fans have asked the club questions – no reply. We have asked the owners – no reply. We have asked for meetings with officials and with the manager – these meetings were promised and never happened.
We have asked everyone we can possibly think of for help in finding answers to basic questions about what has happened at Rovers in the past 18 months – and why.
It is in this spirit, of wanting simple, straight, honest information, which we appeal for your assistance in answering some questions for us. We ask you for several reasons, namely -
you are somebody who has acknowledged yourself that you were ‘inside’ Rovers for a least a short while, which is more than most of us.
you are agent of the manager, Steve Kean, who at times seems to the only person who knows what Mrs Desai is thinking, and we think it a reasonable assumption that therefore you will know much of what Steve Kean knows.
you have consistently said in public that you have the best interests of Rovers and the fans at heart. If this indeed is true, then please help us by answering the following questions.
 
Questions for Mr Anderson, the answers to which the fans of Blackburn feel will give us a much clearer picture of what has happened to our football club.
1: Could you clarify how you first got involved in the sale of Blackburn? Specific
ally -
a: Who hired you to help find a buyer, and when, and who if anybody paid you a commission fee for the introduction?
b: When did you first meet anyone from Venky’s and / or the Rao family in person?
c: Did you or SEM or Kentaro have any previous business ties to Venky’s before the Blackburn takeover?
 
2: What role did you play in the hiring of Steve Kean as Blackburn’s manager? Specifical
ly -
a: Did you ever advise Venky’s that Sam Allardyce should be relieved of his job?
b: When did Steve Kean first meeting anyone from Venky’s, and Mrs Desai specifically?
c: Did you draw up, oversee or have any role in the preparation of Steve Kean’s management contract while you were working for Venky’s?
 
3: Steve Kean was arrested for drinking driving in May 2011 – and later convicted. Kean’s belief was fans spiked his drink, a view that alienated many supporters. News of Kean’s arrest was first widely reported on 17 May 2011, exactly the same day that The Sun ran a big story about Gael Givet and alleged irregular payments made to a contact of Sam Allardyce’s around Givet’s transfer.
a: Did you have any prior knowledge that The Sun were going to run this story on Allardyce?
b: And as the agent of the incumbent manager at the time, did The Sun ask for your opinion of one or both stories – Steve Kean’s arrest and the Givet story?
NB: the point of asking you this question is to ascertain how much media negativity is media-driven for lurid stories, and how much is genuine public interest stories. As someone highly experienced in dealing with media, we welcome your insight.
 
4: It has been reported, and confirmed, that the Premier League vetoed – at least initially – the move of Mauro Formica to Blackburn because of a ‘third party ownership’ issue around the player. You yourself have spoken about working tirelessly for Rovers through the January 2011 transfer window in which Formica eventually moved, so:
a: What exactly was the third party issue with Formica?
b: Who owned him, if it wasn’t Newell’s Old Boys, when the deal was first proposed?
c: How many transfer deals, incoming to Blackburn or outgoing from Rovers, were you personally involved with during the January 2011 window?
d: What was your specific involvement in those deals and were you paid regular agents’ fees? Or flat commissions for helping Venky’s? Or nothing because you just wanted to assist them?
e: A leaked letter from John Williams et al written in January 2011 suggested the ‘old board’ were not happy with mandates being given to you / SEM during that period. Were you aware of their concerns?
f: It has been reported an associate of yours was paid a large agent’s fee when Rochina moved and the agent in question has confirmed you worked together on that deal. Did you receive money from that deal?
g: If Formica’s deal was stopped because of third party involvement, was there originally a plan to bring other players in with third party ownership?
h: Are you aware of the Premier League preventing any other transfer deals in or out of Blackburn, after the Formica deal?
i: It is widely believed that Steve Kean has had only marginal involvement in Rovers transfer deals and Venky’s have been using a variety of inexperienced advisors and unconventional methods to get players since January 2011. Can you confirm what you know about this? And why has Steve Kean never gone public about this apparent lack of influence?
 
5: Do you or Steve Kean have any share in Rovers or options to have any shares in Rovers, or own any shares in any Venky’s company or subsidiary, or any agreement that gives you an option on any such shares, now or in the future?
 
6: In your interview on Sky in January, you said you’d had no business dealings with Venky’s since January 2011 but reports from fans claim you attended a meeting in Pune in October 2011 between Ian Battersby and Ian Currie, and Mrs Desai. Is that true? If so, what was the purpose and outcome of that meeting?
 
7: In your Sky interview you suggested that the protests were ‘too well organised’ and ‘darker forces’ were at work. Could you specify what you meant? We as fans want the best for our club. You have said you want the best for your club. We appeal to you for openness and transparency on what you meant so we can all tackle any ‘darker forces’ together.
 
8: Your solicitors issued a legal notice to me, asking for me not to discuss you in forthcoming BRFC Action Group activities. This was surprising considering you have refused to answer any prior communication or invitation we have sent you to discuss our club. Once again, in the spirit of all of use trying to do the best for Blackburn, can we arrange to meet please?
 
9: Steve Kean and Venky’s have both had legal letters from Sam Allardyce’s lawyers in relation to the video of Steve Kean filmed in Hong Kong. What is Steve Kean’s stance on what he said in that video?
 
10: Do you feel Venky’s have been good custodians of Rovers?
 
Kindest Regards
Glen Mullan
As a group of Blackburn fans return to Lancashire this evening after three days of meetings in London with MPs and the FA about the plight of their club, Sportingintelligence publishes a letter, in full below, sent last week by the same campaigners to Jerome Anderson, the agent of Rovers’ manager, Steve Kean. The letter appeals to Anderson for help, seeking answers to 23 questions relating to why Blackburn has been run in the way it has since Venky’s took over. Glen Mullan, the chair of the BRFC Action Group, writes in the letter: “You have consistently said in public that you have the best interests of Rovers and the fans at heart. If this indeed is true, then please help.” The letters seeks clarity about the precise role that Anderson played at the club. Anderson has spoken about sleeping at the training ground as he worked on club business in January 2011. Anderson has consistently and strenuously insisted that he has had no hands-on role at Blackburn whatsoever since the end of the January 2011 transfer window. Mullan explains in the letter that the fans are frustrated at a lack of answers from anyone connected with the club, hence the appeal to Anderson. No response has been forthcoming yet. On Wednesday, the Action Group met in Westminster with lifelong Rovers fan and local MP, Jack Straw, as well as with two other local MPs, Graham Jones and Jake Berry. The group then attended at a private 45-minute meeting with sports minister Hugh Robertson, who listened to their concerns about what’s happened to Rovers. It is understood the fans passed over hundreds of pages of paperwork outlining their concerns, and asked if Robertson could investigate whether better football governance might have prevented the mess at Ewood Park. It is understood that the group, together with the MPs, will prepare a specific list of questions about the ownership of the club, the influence upon the decision-making processes by external parties at different points, and how certain contracts were drawn up. Robertson is believed to have promised that he will seek answers from the relevant authorities on these matters. The fans had already had a private meeting with Premier League chief executive Richard Scudamore. Today they met at Wembley with senior FA officials who work on compliance issues at the governing body. Mullan told Sportingintelligence this evening: “We’re ecstatic simply to have had these meetings to state our concerns to people who have real power to help us find answers. “To be able to go to Parliament and be given a platform to talk shows us that there are people willing to listen. We’ve handed over all kinds of information, and if the MPs, the FA, the Premier League or a combination of all of them can use their resources and expertise to help us find some answers, it will have been worth it. “We’re just seeking honest answers to basic questions about our own football club. What we’re really pleased about this week is that people with clout are now putting their weight behind our cause.” Aside from on-pitch failings that led to Rovers’ relegation, the fans’ major concerns revolve around where the power at Rovers really lies; why senior executives are apparently impotent in key decisions at the club; why Kean remains manager despite results over 18 months worse than many peers who’ve been fired while doing better; whether the authorities have any ongoing concerns over the way transfers have been conducted; and what if any concerns those authorities have had in the past 18 months. . AN ARCHIVE OF Rovers STORIES IS HERE Follow SPORTINGINTELLIGENCE on Twitter Sportingintelligence home page . Letter from Blackburn Rovers FC Action Group to Jerome Anderson, 6 June 2012 Dear Mr Anderson, I’m writing to you today in the hope that you may be able to help Blackburn fans understand what is going on at our club. Nobody with any connection or affection for the club can fail to see that something has gone very badly wrong at Rovers since Venky’s took over, although the exact reasons remain unclear. We as fans have asked the club questions – no reply. We have asked the owners – no reply. We have asked for meetings with officials and with the manager – these meetings were promised and never happened. We have asked everyone we can possibly think of for help in finding answers to basic questions about what has happened at Rovers in the past 18 months – and why. It is in this spirit, of wanting simple, straight, honest information, which we appeal for your assistance in answering some questions for us. We ask you for several reasons, namely - you are somebody who has acknowledged yourself that you were ‘inside’ Rovers for a least a short while, which is more than most of us. you are agent of the manager, Steve Kean, who at times seems to the only person who knows what Mrs Desai is thinking, and we think it a reasonable assumption that therefore you will know much of what Steve Kean knows. you have consistently said in public that you have the best interests of Rovers and the fans at heart. If this indeed is true, then please help us by answering the following questions.   Questions for Mr Anderson, the answers to which the fans of Blackburn feel will give us a much clearer picture of what has happened to our football club. 1: Could you clarify how you first got involved in the sale of Blackburn? Specific ally - a: Who hired you to help find a buyer, and when, and who if anybody paid you a commission fee for the introduction? b: When did you first meet anyone from Venky’s and / or the Rao family in person? c: Did you or SEM or Kentaro have any previous business ties to Venky’s before the Blackburn takeover?   2: What role did you play in the hiring of Steve Kean as Blackburn’s manager? Specifical ly - a: Did you ever advise Venky’s that Sam Allardyce should be relieved of his job? b: When did Steve Kean first meeting anyone from Venky’s, and Mrs Desai specifically? c: Did you draw up, oversee or have any role in the preparation of Steve Kean’s management contract while you were working for Venky’s?   3: Steve Kean was arrested for drinking driving in May 2011 – and later convicted. Kean’s belief was fans spiked his drink, a view that alienated many supporters. News of Kean’s arrest was first widely reported on 17 May 2011, exactly the same day that The Sun ran a big story about Gael Givet and alleged irregular payments made to a contact of Sam Allardyce’s around Givet’s transfer. a: Did you have any prior knowledge that The Sun were going to run this story on Allardyce? b: And as the agent of the incumbent manager at the time, did The Sun ask for your opinion of one or both stories – Steve Kean’s arrest and the Givet story? NB: the point of asking you this question is to ascertain how much media negativity is media-driven for lurid stories, and how much is genuine public interest stories. As someone highly experienced in dealing with media, we welcome your insight.   4: It has been reported, and confirmed, that the Premier League vetoed – at least initially – the move of Mauro Formica to Blackburn because of a ‘third party ownership’ issue around the player. You yourself have spoken about working tirelessly for Rovers through the January 2011 transfer window in which Formica eventually moved, so: a: What exactly was the third party issue with Formica? b: Who owned him, if it wasn’t Newell’s Old Boys, when the deal was first proposed? c: How many transfer deals, incoming to Blackburn or outgoing from Rovers, were you personally involved with during the January 2011 window? d: What was your specific involvement in those deals and were you paid regular agents’ fees? Or flat commissions for helping Venky’s? Or nothing because you just wanted to assist them? e: A leaked letter from John Williams et al written in January 2011 suggested the ‘old board’ were not happy with mandates being given to you / SEM during that period. Were you aware of their concerns? f: It has been reported an associate of yours was paid a large agent’s fee when Rochina moved and the agent in question has confirmed you worked together on that deal. Did you receive money from that deal? g: If Formica’s deal was stopped because of third party involvement, was there originally a plan to bring other players in with third party ownership? h: Are you aware of the Premier League preventing any other transfer deals in or out of Blackburn, after the Formica deal? i: It is widely believed that Steve Kean has had only marginal involvement in Rovers transfer deals and Venky’s have been using a variety of inexperienced advisors and unconventional methods to get players since January 2011. Can you confirm what you know about this? And why has Steve Kean never gone public about this apparent lack of influence?   5: Do you or Steve Kean have any share in Rovers or options to have any shares in Rovers, or own any shares in any Venky’s company or subsidiary, or any agreement that gives you an option on any such shares, now or in the future?   6: In your interview on Sky in January, you said you’d had no business dealings with Venky’s since January 2011 but reports from fans claim you attended a meeting in Pune in October 2011 between Ian Battersby and Ian Currie, and Mrs Desai. Is that true? If so, what was the purpose and outcome of that meeting?   7: In your Sky interview you suggested that the protests were ‘too well organised’ and ‘darker forces’ were at work. Could you specify what you meant? We as fans want the best for our club. You have said you want the best for your club. We appeal to you for openness and transparency on what you meant so we can all tackle any ‘darker forces’ together.   8: Your solicitors issued a legal notice to me, asking for me not to discuss you in forthcoming BRFC Action Group activities. This was surprising considering you have refused to answer any prior communication or invitation we have sent you to discuss our club. Once again, in the spirit of all of use trying to do the best for Blackburn, can we arrange to meet please?   9: Steve Kean and Venky’s have both had legal letters from Sam Allardyce’s lawyers in relation to the video of Steve Kean filmed in Hong Kong. What is Steve Kean’s stance on what he said in that video?   10: Do you feel Venky’s have been good custodians of Rovers?   Kindest Regards Glen Mullan kazz
  • Score: 3

9:39pm Thu 14 Jun 12

BRFC The Peoples Champion says...

Mattrovers wrote:
I am rovers till I die, I beat the drum in the blackburn end and sing " get into um, get into um "
Sometimes in the heat of the moment we all either do, say or write something that in retrospect was probably not the best decision.

I do believe this is one of those moments
[quote][p][bold]Mattrovers[/bold] wrote: I am rovers till I die, I beat the drum in the blackburn end and sing " get into um, get into um "[/p][/quote]Sometimes in the heat of the moment we all either do, say or write something that in retrospect was probably not the best decision. I do believe this is one of those moments BRFC The Peoples Champion
  • Score: 0

10:04pm Thu 14 Jun 12

BlueSkies says...

BRFC The Peoples Champion wrote:
Mattrovers wrote:
I am rovers till I die, I beat the drum in the blackburn end and sing " get into um, get into um "
Sometimes in the heat of the moment we all either do, say or write something that in retrospect was probably not the best decision.

I do believe this is one of those moments
Champion: he's an 'outsider'. His time is over.
[quote][p][bold]BRFC The Peoples Champion[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mattrovers[/bold] wrote: I am rovers till I die, I beat the drum in the blackburn end and sing " get into um, get into um "[/p][/quote]Sometimes in the heat of the moment we all either do, say or write something that in retrospect was probably not the best decision. I do believe this is one of those moments[/p][/quote]Champion: he's an 'outsider'. His time is over. BlueSkies
  • Score: 0

10:19pm Thu 14 Jun 12

roverinmanchstr says...

Rovers 1495 wrote:
thresholdweller wrote:
roverinmanchstr wrote:
thresholdweller wrote: It would be nice if the Venkys read this article. I agree totally. I don't know whether I agree with some of the posters who seem to be able to read the Venkys minds. I still don't know whether they are assett strippers, or innocents abroad who have fallen under the spell of bad influences, or.........
Innocents!!!! No, they are utter Sh1ts....Where have you been for the last 18 months???!!. Does this (there non actions)..not remind you of exactly what happened last year..pleading for patience and then shopping for the 20p bargains???......... ....Relegation...... ..( this on the back of escaping relegation the season before) 'Nice iof the Venky's read this article indeed!!!!!!
Where have I been the last 18 months? Probably scratching my confused head somewhere near you. Do you think that the Venkys bought the club to ruin it? I think not, but I don't know what they intended. Relegation has been the result of their strange decisions, but I don't know why they made them. Their inaction is worrying, but usually disasters are the result of ****-ups not some cunning plan. They may read this article. Apparently, they have been getting transfer advice off Facebook. There's many who love a conspiracy. Who knows how Steve Kean has kept his job, but the hostile vitriol that was directed at him, partcularly around Christmas, only had the effect, with hindsight, of getting him support and cementing his position. Many of his abusers probably find it's difficult to stomach the fact that they helped him keep his job.
If that is true and they simply made some bad mistakes, but deep down they meant no harm to the club, then why haven't they learnt from those mistakes ? The definition of insanity, or delusion, is performing the same task again and again, and each time expecting a different outcome.
Rover1495...You are talking bo!!ocks..They have ruined the Club. Stop trying to absolve them
[quote][p][bold]Rovers 1495[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thresholdweller[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roverinmanchstr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thresholdweller[/bold] wrote: It would be nice if the Venkys read this article. I agree totally. I don't know whether I agree with some of the posters who seem to be able to read the Venkys minds. I still don't know whether they are assett strippers, or innocents abroad who have fallen under the spell of bad influences, or.........[/p][/quote]Innocents!!!! No, they are utter Sh1ts....Where have you been for the last 18 months???!!. Does this (there non actions)..not remind you of exactly what happened last year..pleading for patience and then shopping for the 20p bargains???......... ....Relegation...... ..( this on the back of escaping relegation the season before) 'Nice iof the Venky's read this article indeed!!!!!![/p][/quote]Where have I been the last 18 months? Probably scratching my confused head somewhere near you. Do you think that the Venkys bought the club to ruin it? I think not, but I don't know what they intended. Relegation has been the result of their strange decisions, but I don't know why they made them. Their inaction is worrying, but usually disasters are the result of ****-ups not some cunning plan. They may read this article. Apparently, they have been getting transfer advice off Facebook. There's many who love a conspiracy. Who knows how Steve Kean has kept his job, but the hostile vitriol that was directed at him, partcularly around Christmas, only had the effect, with hindsight, of getting him support and cementing his position. Many of his abusers probably find it's difficult to stomach the fact that they helped him keep his job.[/p][/quote]If that is true and they simply made some bad mistakes, but deep down they meant no harm to the club, then why haven't they learnt from those mistakes ? The definition of insanity, or delusion, is performing the same task again and again, and each time expecting a different outcome.[/p][/quote]Rover1495...You are talking bo!!ocks..They have ruined the Club. Stop trying to absolve them roverinmanchstr
  • Score: 3

10:52pm Thu 14 Jun 12

gleechy says...

Mattrovers wrote:
I am rovers till I die, I beat the drum in the blackburn end and sing " get into um, get into um "
Matt you cannot really think any blame lies with the fans can you?
It appears that you are deliberately winding people up to get a reaction. If you genuinely support Rovers you would realise that Venks/Kean are very bad for the club and after 19months in charge constantly going down, haven't changed or tried to make things right.
[quote][p][bold]Mattrovers[/bold] wrote: I am rovers till I die, I beat the drum in the blackburn end and sing " get into um, get into um "[/p][/quote]Matt you cannot really think any blame lies with the fans can you? It appears that you are deliberately winding people up to get a reaction. If you genuinely support Rovers you would realise that Venks/Kean are very bad for the club and after 19months in charge constantly going down, haven't changed or tried to make things right. gleechy
  • Score: 1

11:45pm Thu 14 Jun 12

Tony Downunder says...

Wow ! What a cunning plan Venkys. Keep all the players that lost respect for their Manager a long time ago. They'll never improve because they don't believe in him. That's why we're in this mess. Then you're going to tell them they can't leave. That's a great way to motivate your team. You need to employ a Manager with a better track record than the one you have. Lets face it, that shouldn't be difficult. Then you may have half a chance of keeping some of your top players because they'll have a fresh & positively driven Manager to lead us out of the hole that we're in. The Manager (I use term loosely) you have at the moment, doesn't know how to get back to top flight football. Get rid!
Wow ! What a cunning plan Venkys. Keep all the players that lost respect for their Manager a long time ago. They'll never improve because they don't believe in him. That's why we're in this mess. Then you're going to tell them they can't leave. That's a great way to motivate your team. You need to employ a Manager with a better track record than the one you have. Lets face it, that shouldn't be difficult. Then you may have half a chance of keeping some of your top players because they'll have a fresh & positively driven Manager to lead us out of the hole that we're in. The Manager (I use term loosely) you have at the moment, doesn't know how to get back to top flight football. Get rid! Tony Downunder
  • Score: 2

7:05am Fri 15 Jun 12

alphajono says...

In respects to the above article I cannot see anyone leaving the club in the near future....It won’t matter a jot if the players want to go there will be no one there to oversee the transfers and Venkys will not be available for comment...Agnew well he will just be on a permanent holiday either that or he is Wa**ing in the General Managers toilet over the job he has just landed....So don’t worry fellow roverites no one and I mean no one will be going anywhere. As for me I also will not be going anywhere on match days apart from the odd away day and shopping with the wife...doesn’t get much more fun than this being a Blackburn fan at the moment.
In respects to the above article I cannot see anyone leaving the club in the near future....It won’t matter a jot if the players want to go there will be no one there to oversee the transfers and Venkys will not be available for comment...Agnew well he will just be on a permanent holiday either that or he is Wa**ing in the General Managers toilet over the job he has just landed....So don’t worry fellow roverites no one and I mean no one will be going anywhere. As for me I also will not be going anywhere on match days apart from the odd away day and shopping with the wife...doesn’t get much more fun than this being a Blackburn fan at the moment. alphajono
  • Score: 2

7:11am Fri 15 Jun 12

fickle fan says...

craftandgraft wrote:
Why are we even talking about Venkys?

Jerome Anderson is the biggest crook still at large.

Steve Kean is his muppet.

Agnew is just a f*ckin idiot

( ask Sir Tom Finney )

Two ways to look at it...right or wrong?

WRONG WRONG WRONG.

B*ST*RD CROOKS.

Arte et Labore

ps. glaswegian gangsters......woooo

ooooooooahhh. f*ck off away now wee laddies.

wrong place wrong time.

BRFC ULTRAS.
anderson was employed by the walker trust, he doesnt now have any involvement with the club
[quote][p][bold]craftandgraft[/bold] wrote: Why are we even talking about Venkys? Jerome Anderson is the biggest crook still at large. Steve Kean is his muppet. Agnew is just a f*ckin idiot ( ask Sir Tom Finney ) Two ways to look at it...right or wrong? WRONG WRONG WRONG. B*ST*RD CROOKS. Arte et Labore ps. glaswegian gangsters......woooo ooooooooahhh. f*ck off away now wee laddies. wrong place wrong time. BRFC ULTRAS.[/p][/quote]anderson was employed by the walker trust, he doesnt now have any involvement with the club fickle fan
  • Score: -3

8:02am Fri 15 Jun 12

kitchener2 says...

Mattrovers wrote:
I am rovers till I die, I beat the drum in the blackburn end and sing " get into um, get into um "
"Are you a muppet or a dingle" you've just answered both those questions in the affirmative, either that or you're off your rocker!
[quote][p][bold]Mattrovers[/bold] wrote: I am rovers till I die, I beat the drum in the blackburn end and sing " get into um, get into um "[/p][/quote]"Are you a muppet or a dingle" you've just answered both those questions in the affirmative, either that or you're off your rocker! kitchener2
  • Score: 0

8:09am Fri 15 Jun 12

OnePostThenTheOther says...

Hang on a minute, I've had a simply brilliant idea, I can't believe nobody has thought it before. Why don't Venkys hire a manager that players and fans alike can believe in, trust, look up to, get behind and follow? Somebody with experience and a record of success at this level?

Who knows the savings that could be made on retaining players and avoiding player-trading losses might just cover the expense of such a manager. There's more - they could even offer this manager a healthy bonus for getting us back into the Premiership.

I know, I'm a genius me I am. Sometimes I frighten myself.

Or we can just carry on with the current f'wit assisted by the Spurs supporting Malaysian football no-mark (WTF?!!) and another lying jock drunk.
Hang on a minute, I've had a simply brilliant idea, I can't believe nobody has thought it before. Why don't Venkys hire a manager that players and fans alike can believe in, trust, look up to, get behind and follow? Somebody with experience and a record of success at this level? Who knows the savings that could be made on retaining players and avoiding player-trading losses might just cover the expense of such a manager. There's more - they could even offer this manager a healthy bonus for getting us back into the Premiership. I know, I'm a genius me I am. Sometimes I frighten myself. Or we can just carry on with the current f'wit assisted by the Spurs supporting Malaysian football no-mark (WTF?!!) and another lying jock drunk. OnePostThenTheOther
  • Score: 5

8:15am Fri 15 Jun 12

Rovers 1495 says...

ivegillian wrote:
Hello Mr Agnew - I have been away for a few days so not sure if you have made any kind of announcements about our club. I suspect you have not. Surely you are not still on holiday?

Do you still not understand - our club is four square sitting inside the biggest crisis it as ever faced - but you cannot be contacted and you are not contacting the people that really count to a football club - its supporters.

I say 'supporters' but the reality is that thousands of us no longer support the version of the club as it exists today - your version, the Venkys version, ...... and the version symbolised by the one person we really do not want to be associated with - Mr Kean.

A whole host of top football management jobs are available elsewhere or soon will be - Spurs, Birmingham, Norwich, Rangers etc - but I will mortgage the house on the probability that not one club in any one of the divisions will approach Rovers for the services of Mr Kean.

Do you know why - not only is he probably the worst football manager I have seen in over 40 years - but he is not trusted by one single supporter of our club. How damning can that be.

He has relegated our club, he has oversold the potential of players he bought (?), he has driven supporters away from the club they love - but worst of all he has pulled the club down to a level that Jack Walker would not be able to recognise. Truly disgusting.

Get rid of him - there is no other alternative.
Leave Mr Agnew alone ... you're spoiling his cocktails
[quote][p][bold]ivegillian[/bold] wrote: Hello Mr Agnew - I have been away for a few days so not sure if you have made any kind of announcements about our club. I suspect you have not. Surely you are not still on holiday? Do you still not understand - our club is four square sitting inside the biggest crisis it as ever faced - but you cannot be contacted and you are not contacting the people that really count to a football club - its supporters. I say 'supporters' but the reality is that thousands of us no longer support the version of the club as it exists today - your version, the Venkys version, ...... and the version symbolised by the one person we really do not want to be associated with - Mr Kean. A whole host of top football management jobs are available elsewhere or soon will be - Spurs, Birmingham, Norwich, Rangers etc - but I will mortgage the house on the probability that not one club in any one of the divisions will approach Rovers for the services of Mr Kean. Do you know why - not only is he probably the worst football manager I have seen in over 40 years - but he is not trusted by one single supporter of our club. How damning can that be. He has relegated our club, he has oversold the potential of players he bought (?), he has driven supporters away from the club they love - but worst of all he has pulled the club down to a level that Jack Walker would not be able to recognise. Truly disgusting. Get rid of him - there is no other alternative.[/p][/quote]Leave Mr Agnew alone ... you're spoiling his cocktails Rovers 1495
  • Score: 0

8:29am Fri 15 Jun 12

Rovers 1495 says...

www.jeromeandersonli
es.com is still available for registration
www.jeromeandersonli es.com is still available for registration Rovers 1495
  • Score: 0

8:35am Fri 15 Jun 12

bburnrover says...

I totally cocur with Ivegillian why is Kean still at our club? Who is the person responsibile? We would like to know why he is still here and what the reasons are that he is still here?

Can someone from Ewood please explain to the fans how a guy who has ruined the playing side of our club can maintain his position?
I totally cocur with Ivegillian why is Kean still at our club? Who is the person responsibile? We would like to know why he is still here and what the reasons are that he is still here? Can someone from Ewood please explain to the fans how a guy who has ruined the playing side of our club can maintain his position? bburnrover
  • Score: 2

9:12am Fri 15 Jun 12

givet82 says...

OnePostThenTheOther wrote:
Hang on a minute, I've had a simply brilliant idea, I can't believe nobody has thought it before. Why don't Venkys hire a manager that players and fans alike can believe in, trust, look up to, get behind and follow? Somebody with experience and a record of success at this level?

Who knows the savings that could be made on retaining players and avoiding player-trading losses might just cover the expense of such a manager. There's more - they could even offer this manager a healthy bonus for getting us back into the Premiership.

I know, I'm a genius me I am. Sometimes I frighten myself.

Or we can just carry on with the current f'wit assisted by the Spurs supporting Malaysian football no-mark (WTF?!!) and another lying jock drunk.
steady on there a minute, that's far to easy and sensible
[quote][p][bold]OnePostThenTheOther[/bold] wrote: Hang on a minute, I've had a simply brilliant idea, I can't believe nobody has thought it before. Why don't Venkys hire a manager that players and fans alike can believe in, trust, look up to, get behind and follow? Somebody with experience and a record of success at this level? Who knows the savings that could be made on retaining players and avoiding player-trading losses might just cover the expense of such a manager. There's more - they could even offer this manager a healthy bonus for getting us back into the Premiership. I know, I'm a genius me I am. Sometimes I frighten myself. Or we can just carry on with the current f'wit assisted by the Spurs supporting Malaysian football no-mark (WTF?!!) and another lying jock drunk.[/p][/quote]steady on there a minute, that's far to easy and sensible givet82
  • Score: 0

9:25am Fri 15 Jun 12

DaBoss says...

Road Runner Road Runner wrote:
Interesting reading on the BBC web page regards the Malaysian owners of Cardiff.

We could be so lucky !
That same consortium had rovers as first choice and approached Venky's who told them firmly, they weren't interested in selling.
[quote][p][bold]Road Runner Road Runner[/bold] wrote: Interesting reading on the BBC web page regards the Malaysian owners of Cardiff. We could be so lucky ![/p][/quote]That same consortium had rovers as first choice and approached Venky's who told them firmly, they weren't interested in selling. DaBoss
  • Score: -1

9:34am Fri 15 Jun 12

DaBoss says...

http://www.sportingi
ntelligence.com/2012
/06/14/blackburn-fan
s-given-boost-by-mps
-and-fa-and-ask-ande
rson-for-answers-140
601/

"7: In your Sky interview you suggested that the protests were ‘too well organised’ and ‘darker forces’ were at work. Could you specify what you meant? We as fans want the best for our club. You have said you want the best for your club. We appeal to you for openness and transparency on what you meant so we can all tackle any ‘darker forces’ together."

8: Your solicitors issued a legal notice to me, asking for me not to discuss you in forthcoming BRFC Action Group activities. This was surprising considering you have refused to answer any prior communication or invitation we have sent you to discuss our club. Once again, in the spirit of all of use trying to do the best for Blackburn, can we arrange to meet please?


This should speak for itself where Anderson stands, you're wasting your time if you believe he's going to come forward with anything insightful.
http://www.sportingi ntelligence.com/2012 /06/14/blackburn-fan s-given-boost-by-mps -and-fa-and-ask-ande rson-for-answers-140 601/ "7: In your Sky interview you suggested that the protests were ‘too well organised’ and ‘darker forces’ were at work. Could you specify what you meant? We as fans want the best for our club. You have said you want the best for your club. We appeal to you for openness and transparency on what you meant so we can all tackle any ‘darker forces’ together." 8: Your solicitors issued a legal notice to me, asking for me not to discuss you in forthcoming BRFC Action Group activities. This was surprising considering you have refused to answer any prior communication or invitation we have sent you to discuss our club. Once again, in the spirit of all of use trying to do the best for Blackburn, can we arrange to meet please? This should speak for itself where Anderson stands, you're wasting your time if you believe he's going to come forward with anything insightful. DaBoss
  • Score: -2

9:43am Fri 15 Jun 12

Hippocroccapig says...

kazz wrote:
As a group of Blackburn fans return to Lancashire this evening after three days of meetings in London with MPs and the FA about the plight of their club, Sportingintelligence publishes a letter, in full below, sent last week by the same campaigners to Jerome Anderson, the agent of Rovers’ manager, Steve Kean.
The letter appeals to Anderson for help, seeking answers to 23 questions relating to why Blackburn has been run in the way it has since Venky’s took over.
Glen Mullan, the chair of the BRFC Action Group, writes in the letter: “You have consistently said in public that you have the best interests of Rovers and the fans at heart. If this indeed is true, then please help.”
The letters seeks clarity about the precise role that Anderson played at the club. Anderson has spoken about sleeping at the training ground as he worked on club business in January 2011.
Anderson has consistently and strenuously insisted that he has had no hands-on role at Blackburn whatsoever since the end of the January 2011 transfer window.
Mullan explains in the letter that the fans are frustrated at a lack of answers from anyone connected with the club, hence the appeal to Anderson. No response has been forthcoming yet.
On Wednesday, the Action Group met in Westminster with lifelong Rovers fan and local MP, Jack Straw, as well as with two other local MPs, Graham Jones and Jake Berry.
The group then attended at a private 45-minute meeting with sports minister Hugh Robertson, who listened to their concerns about what’s happened to Rovers.
It is understood the fans passed over hundreds of pages of paperwork outlining their concerns, and asked if Robertson could investigate whether better football governance might have prevented the mess at Ewood Park.
It is understood that the group, together with the MPs, will prepare a specific list of questions about the ownership of the club, the influence upon the decision-making processes by external parties at different points, and how certain contracts were drawn up.
Robertson is believed to have promised that he will seek answers from the relevant authorities on these matters.
The fans had already had a private meeting with Premier League chief executive Richard Scudamore. Toda
y they met at Wembley with senior FA officials who work on compliance issues at the governing body.
Mullan told Sportingintelligence this evening: “We’re ecstatic simply to have had these meetings to state our concerns to people who have real power to help us find answers.
“To be able to go to Parliament and be given a platform to talk shows us that there are people willing to listen. We’ve handed over all kinds of information, and if the MPs, the FA, the Premier League or a combination of all of them can use their resources and expertise to help us find some answers, it will have been worth it.
“We’re just seeking honest answers to basic questions about our own football club. What we’re really pleased about this week is that people with clout are now putting their weight behind our cause.”
Aside from on-pitch failings that led to Rovers’ relegation, the fans’ major concerns revolve around where the power at Rovers really lies; why senior executives are apparently impotent in key decisions at the club; why Kean remains manager despite results over 18 months worse than many peers who’ve been fired while doing better; whether the authorities have any ongoing concerns over the way transfers have been conducted; and what if any concerns those authorities have had in the past 18 months.
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Letter from Blackburn Rovers FC Action Group to Jerome Anderson, 6 June 2012
Dear Mr Anderson,
I’m writing to you today in the hope that you may be able to help Blackburn fans understand what is going on at our club.
Nobody with any connection or affection for the club can fail to see that something has gone very badly wrong at Rovers since Venky’s took over, although the exact reasons remain unclear.
We as fans have asked the club questions – no reply. We have asked the owners – no reply. We have asked for meetings with officials and with the manager – these meetings were promised and never happened.
We have asked everyone we can possibly think of for help in finding answers to basic questions about what has happened at Rovers in the past 18 months – and why.
It is in this spirit, of wanting simple, straight, honest information, which we appeal for your assistance in answering some questions for us. We ask you for several reasons, namely -
you are somebody who has acknowledged yourself that you were ‘inside’ Rovers for a least a short while, which is more than most of us.
you are agent of the manager, Steve Kean, who at times seems to the only person who knows what Mrs Desai is thinking, and we think it a reasonable assumption that therefore you will know much of what Steve Kean knows.
you have consistently said in public that you have the best interests of Rovers and the fans at heart. If this indeed is true, then please help us by answering the following questions.
 
Questions for Mr Anderson, the answers to which the fans of Blackburn feel will give us a much clearer picture of what has happened to our football club.
1: Could you clarify how you first got involved in the sale of Blackburn? Spec
ific
ally -
a: Who hired you to help find a buyer, and when, and who if anybody paid you a commission fee for the introduction?
b: When did you first meet anyone from Venky’s and / or the Rao family in person?
c: Did you or SEM or Kentaro have any previous business ties to Venky’s before the Blackburn takeover?
 
2: What role did you play in the hiring of Steve Kean as Blackburn’s manager? Specif
ical
ly -
a: Did you ever advise Venky’s that Sam Allardyce should be relieved of his job?
b: When did Steve Kean first meeting anyone from Venky’s, and Mrs Desai specifically?
c: Did you draw up, oversee or have any role in the preparation of Steve Kean’s management contract while you were working for Venky’s?
 
3: Steve Kean was arrested for drinking driving in May 2011 – and later convicted. Kean’s belief was fans spiked his drink, a view that alienated many supporters. News of Kean’s arrest was first widely reported on 17 May 2011, exactly the same day that The Sun ran a big story about Gael Givet and alleged irregular payments made to a contact of Sam Allardyce’s around Givet’s transfer.
a: Did you have any prior knowledge that The Sun were going to run this story on Allardyce?
b: And as the agent of the incumbent manager at the time, did The Sun ask for your opinion of one or both stories – Steve Kean’s arrest and the Givet story?
NB: the point of asking you this question is to ascertain how much media negativity is media-driven for lurid stories, and how much is genuine public interest stories. As someone highly experienced in dealing with media, we welcome your insight.
 
4: It has been reported, and confirmed, that the Premier League vetoed – at least initially – the move of Mauro Formica to Blackburn because of a ‘third party ownership’ issue around the player. You yourself have spoken about working tirelessly for Rovers through the January 2011 transfer window in which Formica eventually moved, so:
a: What exactly was the third party issue with Formica?
b: Who owned him, if it wasn’t Newell’s Old Boys, when the deal was first proposed?
c: How many transfer deals, incoming to Blackburn or outgoing from Rovers, were you personally involved with during the January 2011 window?
d: What was your specific involvement in those deals and were you paid regular agents’ fees? Or flat commissions for helping Venky’s? Or nothing because you just wanted to assist them?
e: A leaked letter from John Williams et al written in January 2011 suggested the ‘old board’ were not happy with mandates being given to you / SEM during that period. Were you aware of their concerns?
f: It has been reported an associate of yours was paid a large agent’s fee when Rochina moved and the agent in question has confirmed you worked together on that deal. Did you receive money from that deal?
g: If Formica’s deal was stopped because of third party involvement, was there originally a plan to bring other players in with third party ownership?
h: Are you aware of the Premier League preventing any other transfer deals in or out of Blackburn, after the Formica deal?
i: It is widely believed that Steve Kean has had only marginal involvement in Rovers transfer deals and Venky’s have been using a variety of inexperienced advisors and unconventional methods to get players since January 2011. Can you confirm what you know about this? And why has Steve Kean never gone public about this apparent lack of influence?
 
5: Do you or Steve Kean have any share in Rovers or options to have any shares in Rovers, or own any shares in any Venky’s company or subsidiary, or any agreement that gives you an option on any such shares, now or in the future?
 
6: In your interview on Sky in January, you said you’d had no business dealings with Venky’s since January 2011 but reports from fans claim you attended a meeting in Pune in October 2011 between Ian Battersby and Ian Currie, and Mrs Desai. Is that true? If so, what was the purpose and outcome of that meeting?
 
7: In your Sky interview you suggested that the protests were ‘too well organised’ and ‘darker forces’ were at work. Could you specify what you meant? We as fans want the best for our club. You have said you want the best for your club. We appeal to you for openness and transparency on what you meant so we can all tackle any ‘darker forces’ together.
 
8: Your solicitors issued a legal notice to me, asking for me not to discuss you in forthcoming BRFC Action Group activities. This was surprising considering you have refused to answer any prior communication or invitation we have sent you to discuss our club. Once again, in the spirit of all of use trying to do the best for Blackburn, can we arrange to meet please?
 
9: Steve Kean and Venky’s have both had legal letters from Sam Allardyce’s lawyers in relation to the video of Steve Kean filmed in Hong Kong. What is Steve Kean’s stance on what he said in that video?
 
10: Do you feel Venky’s have been good custodians of Rovers?
 
Kindest Regards
Glen Mullan
Can anyone really see Anderson hanging himself by answering any of these questions? Particularly after the vitriol he has received from the vast majority of supporters.

Do me a favour Glen you are clutching at some small straws now
[quote][p][bold]kazz[/bold] wrote: As a group of Blackburn fans return to Lancashire this evening after three days of meetings in London with MPs and the FA about the plight of their club, Sportingintelligence publishes a letter, in full below, sent last week by the same campaigners to Jerome Anderson, the agent of Rovers’ manager, Steve Kean. The letter appeals to Anderson for help, seeking answers to 23 questions relating to why Blackburn has been run in the way it has since Venky’s took over. Glen Mullan, the chair of the BRFC Action Group, writes in the letter: “You have consistently said in public that you have the best interests of Rovers and the fans at heart. If this indeed is true, then please help.” The letters seeks clarity about the precise role that Anderson played at the club. Anderson has spoken about sleeping at the training ground as he worked on club business in January 2011. Anderson has consistently and strenuously insisted that he has had no hands-on role at Blackburn whatsoever since the end of the January 2011 transfer window. Mullan explains in the letter that the fans are frustrated at a lack of answers from anyone connected with the club, hence the appeal to Anderson. No response has been forthcoming yet. On Wednesday, the Action Group met in Westminster with lifelong Rovers fan and local MP, Jack Straw, as well as with two other local MPs, Graham Jones and Jake Berry. The group then attended at a private 45-minute meeting with sports minister Hugh Robertson, who listened to their concerns about what’s happened to Rovers. It is understood the fans passed over hundreds of pages of paperwork outlining their concerns, and asked if Robertson could investigate whether better football governance might have prevented the mess at Ewood Park. It is understood that the group, together with the MPs, will prepare a specific list of questions about the ownership of the club, the influence upon the decision-making processes by external parties at different points, and how certain contracts were drawn up. Robertson is believed to have promised that he will seek answers from the relevant authorities on these matters. The fans had already had a private meeting with Premier League chief executive Richard Scudamore. Toda y they met at Wembley with senior FA officials who work on compliance issues at the governing body. Mullan told Sportingintelligence this evening: “We’re ecstatic simply to have had these meetings to state our concerns to people who have real power to help us find answers. “To be able to go to Parliament and be given a platform to talk shows us that there are people willing to listen. We’ve handed over all kinds of information, and if the MPs, the FA, the Premier League or a combination of all of them can use their resources and expertise to help us find some answers, it will have been worth it. “We’re just seeking honest answers to basic questions about our own football club. What we’re really pleased about this week is that people with clout are now putting their weight behind our cause.” Aside from on-pitch failings that led to Rovers’ relegation, the fans’ major concerns revolve around where the power at Rovers really lies; why senior executives are apparently impotent in key decisions at the club; why Kean remains manager despite results over 18 months worse than many peers who’ve been fired while doing better; whether the authorities have any ongoing concerns over the way transfers have been conducted; and what if any concerns those authorities have had in the past 18 months. . AN ARCHIVE OF Rovers STORIES IS HERE Follow SPORTINGINTELLIGENCE on Twitter Sportingintelligence home page . Letter from Blackburn Rovers FC Action Group to Jerome Anderson, 6 June 2012 Dear Mr Anderson, I’m writing to you today in the hope that you may be able to help Blackburn fans understand what is going on at our club. Nobody with any connection or affection for the club can fail to see that something has gone very badly wrong at Rovers since Venky’s took over, although the exact reasons remain unclear. We as fans have asked the club questions – no reply. We have asked the owners – no reply. We have asked for meetings with officials and with the manager – these meetings were promised and never happened. We have asked everyone we can possibly think of for help in finding answers to basic questions about what has happened at Rovers in the past 18 months – and why. It is in this spirit, of wanting simple, straight, honest information, which we appeal for your assistance in answering some questions for us. We ask you for several reasons, namely - you are somebody who has acknowledged yourself that you were ‘inside’ Rovers for a least a short while, which is more than most of us. you are agent of the manager, Steve Kean, who at times seems to the only person who knows what Mrs Desai is thinking, and we think it a reasonable assumption that therefore you will know much of what Steve Kean knows. you have consistently said in public that you have the best interests of Rovers and the fans at heart. If this indeed is true, then please help us by answering the following questions.   Questions for Mr Anderson, the answers to which the fans of Blackburn feel will give us a much clearer picture of what has happened to our football club. 1: Could you clarify how you first got involved in the sale of Blackburn? Spec ific ally - a: Who hired you to help find a buyer, and when, and who if anybody paid you a commission fee for the introduction? b: When did you first meet anyone from Venky’s and / or the Rao family in person? c: Did you or SEM or Kentaro have any previous business ties to Venky’s before the Blackburn takeover?   2: What role did you play in the hiring of Steve Kean as Blackburn’s manager? Specif ical ly - a: Did you ever advise Venky’s that Sam Allardyce should be relieved of his job? b: When did Steve Kean first meeting anyone from Venky’s, and Mrs Desai specifically? c: Did you draw up, oversee or have any role in the preparation of Steve Kean’s management contract while you were working for Venky’s?   3: Steve Kean was arrested for drinking driving in May 2011 – and later convicted. Kean’s belief was fans spiked his drink, a view that alienated many supporters. News of Kean’s arrest was first widely reported on 17 May 2011, exactly the same day that The Sun ran a big story about Gael Givet and alleged irregular payments made to a contact of Sam Allardyce’s around Givet’s transfer. a: Did you have any prior knowledge that The Sun were going to run this story on Allardyce? b: And as the agent of the incumbent manager at the time, did The Sun ask for your opinion of one or both stories – Steve Kean’s arrest and the Givet story? NB: the point of asking you this question is to ascertain how much media negativity is media-driven for lurid stories, and how much is genuine public interest stories. As someone highly experienced in dealing with media, we welcome your insight.   4: It has been reported, and confirmed, that the Premier League vetoed – at least initially – the move of Mauro Formica to Blackburn because of a ‘third party ownership’ issue around the player. You yourself have spoken about working tirelessly for Rovers through the January 2011 transfer window in which Formica eventually moved, so: a: What exactly was the third party issue with Formica? b: Who owned him, if it wasn’t Newell’s Old Boys, when the deal was first proposed? c: How many transfer deals, incoming to Blackburn or outgoing from Rovers, were you personally involved with during the January 2011 window? d: What was your specific involvement in those deals and were you paid regular agents’ fees? Or flat commissions for helping Venky’s? Or nothing because you just wanted to assist them? e: A leaked letter from John Williams et al written in January 2011 suggested the ‘old board’ were not happy with mandates being given to you / SEM during that period. Were you aware of their concerns? f: It has been reported an associate of yours was paid a large agent’s fee when Rochina moved and the agent in question has confirmed you worked together on that deal. Did you receive money from that deal? g: If Formica’s deal was stopped because of third party involvement, was there originally a plan to bring other players in with third party ownership? h: Are you aware of the Premier League preventing any other transfer deals in or out of Blackburn, after the Formica deal? i: It is widely believed that Steve Kean has had only marginal involvement in Rovers transfer deals and Venky’s have been using a variety of inexperienced advisors and unconventional methods to get players since January 2011. Can you confirm what you know about this? And why has Steve Kean never gone public about this apparent lack of influence?   5: Do you or Steve Kean have any share in Rovers or options to have any shares in Rovers, or own any shares in any Venky’s company or subsidiary, or any agreement that gives you an option on any such shares, now or in the future?   6: In your interview on Sky in January, you said you’d had no business dealings with Venky’s since January 2011 but reports from fans claim you attended a meeting in Pune in October 2011 between Ian Battersby and Ian Currie, and Mrs Desai. Is that true? If so, what was the purpose and outcome of that meeting?   7: In your Sky interview you suggested that the protests were ‘too well organised’ and ‘darker forces’ were at work. Could you specify what you meant? We as fans want the best for our club. You have said you want the best for your club. We appeal to you for openness and transparency on what you meant so we can all tackle any ‘darker forces’ together.   8: Your solicitors issued a legal notice to me, asking for me not to discuss you in forthcoming BRFC Action Group activities. This was surprising considering you have refused to answer any prior communication or invitation we have sent you to discuss our club. Once again, in the spirit of all of use trying to do the best for Blackburn, can we arrange to meet please?   9: Steve Kean and Venky’s have both had legal letters from Sam Allardyce’s lawyers in relation to the video of Steve Kean filmed in Hong Kong. What is Steve Kean’s stance on what he said in that video?   10: Do you feel Venky’s have been good custodians of Rovers?   Kindest Regards Glen Mullan[/p][/quote]Can anyone really see Anderson hanging himself by answering any of these questions? Particularly after the vitriol he has received from the vast majority of supporters. Do me a favour Glen you are clutching at some small straws now Hippocroccapig
  • Score: -3

9:51am Fri 15 Jun 12

Harwoodstblue says...

Hippocroccapig wrote:
kazz wrote:
As a group of Blackburn fans return to Lancashire this evening after three days of meetings in London with MPs and the FA about the plight of their club, Sportingintelligence publishes a letter, in full below, sent last week by the same campaigners to Jerome Anderson, the agent of Rovers’ manager, Steve Kean.
The letter appeals to Anderson for help, seeking answers to 23 questions relating to why Blackburn has been run in the way it has since Venky’s took over.
Glen Mullan, the chair of the BRFC Action Group, writes in the letter: “You have consistently said in public that you have the best interests of Rovers and the fans at heart. If this indeed is true, then please help.”
The letters seeks clarity about the precise role that Anderson played at the club. Anderson has spoken about sleeping at the training ground as he worked on club business in January 2011.
Anderson has consistently and strenuously insisted that he has had no hands-on role at Blackburn whatsoever since the end of the January 2011 transfer window.
Mullan explains in the letter that the fans are frustrated at a lack of answers from anyone connected with the club, hence the appeal to Anderson. No response has been forthcoming yet.
On Wednesday, the Action Group met in Westminster with lifelong Rovers fan and local MP, Jack Straw, as well as with two other local MPs, Graham Jones and Jake Berry.
The group then attended at a private 45-minute meeting with sports minister Hugh Robertson, who listened to their concerns about what’s happened to Rovers.
It is understood the fans passed over hundreds of pages of paperwork outlining their concerns, and asked if Robertson could investigate whether better football governance might have prevented the mess at Ewood Park.
It is understood that the group, together with the MPs, will prepare a specific list of questions about the ownership of the club, the influence upon the decision-making processes by external parties at different points, and how certain contracts were drawn up.
Robertson is believed to have promised that he will seek answers from the relevant authorities on these matters.
The fans had already had a private meeting with Premier League chief executive Richard Scudamore. Toda

y they met at Wembley with senior FA officials who work on compliance issues at the governing body.
Mullan told Sportingintelligence this evening: “We’re ecstatic simply to have had these meetings to state our concerns to people who have real power to help us find answers.
“To be able to go to Parliament and be given a platform to talk shows us that there are people willing to listen. We’ve handed over all kinds of information, and if the MPs, the FA, the Premier League or a combination of all of them can use their resources and expertise to help us find some answers, it will have been worth it.
“We’re just seeking honest answers to basic questions about our own football club. What we’re really pleased about this week is that people with clout are now putting their weight behind our cause.”
Aside from on-pitch failings that led to Rovers’ relegation, the fans’ major concerns revolve around where the power at Rovers really lies; why senior executives are apparently impotent in key decisions at the club; why Kean remains manager despite results over 18 months worse than many peers who’ve been fired while doing better; whether the authorities have any ongoing concerns over the way transfers have been conducted; and what if any concerns those authorities have had in the past 18 months.
.
AN ARCHIVE OF Rovers STORIES IS HERE
Follow SPORTINGINTELLIGENCE on Twitter
Sportingintelligence home page
.
Letter from Blackburn Rovers FC Action Group to Jerome Anderson, 6 June 2012
Dear Mr Anderson,
I’m writing to you today in the hope that you may be able to help Blackburn fans understand what is going on at our club.
Nobody with any connection or affection for the club can fail to see that something has gone very badly wrong at Rovers since Venky’s took over, although the exact reasons remain unclear.
We as fans have asked the club questions – no reply. We have asked the owners – no reply. We have asked for meetings with officials and with the manager – these meetings were promised and never happened.
We have asked everyone we can possibly think of for help in finding answers to basic questions about what has happened at Rovers in the past 18 months – and why.
It is in this spirit, of wanting simple, straight, honest information, which we appeal for your assistance in answering some questions for us. We ask you for several reasons, namely -
you are somebody who has acknowledged yourself that you were ‘inside’ Rovers for a least a short while, which is more than most of us.
you are agent of the manager, Steve Kean, who at times seems to the only person who knows what Mrs Desai is thinking, and we think it a reasonable assumption that therefore you will know much of what Steve Kean knows.
you have consistently said in public that you have the best interests of Rovers and the fans at heart. If this indeed is true, then please help us by answering the following questions.
 
Questions for Mr Anderson, the answers to which the fans of Blackburn feel will give us a much clearer picture of what has happened to our football club.
1: Could you clarify how you first got involved in the sale of Blackburn? Spec

ific
ally -
a: Who hired you to help find a buyer, and when, and who if anybody paid you a commission fee for the introduction?
b: When did you first meet anyone from Venky’s and / or the Rao family in person?
c: Did you or SEM or Kentaro have any previous business ties to Venky’s before the Blackburn takeover?
 
2: What role did you play in the hiring of Steve Kean as Blackburn’s manager? Specif

ical
ly -
a: Did you ever advise Venky’s that Sam Allardyce should be relieved of his job?
b: When did Steve Kean first meeting anyone from Venky’s, and Mrs Desai specifically?
c: Did you draw up, oversee or have any role in the preparation of Steve Kean’s management contract while you were working for Venky’s?
 
3: Steve Kean was arrested for drinking driving in May 2011 – and later convicted. Kean’s belief was fans spiked his drink, a view that alienated many supporters. News of Kean’s arrest was first widely reported on 17 May 2011, exactly the same day that The Sun ran a big story about Gael Givet and alleged irregular payments made to a contact of Sam Allardyce’s around Givet’s transfer.
a: Did you have any prior knowledge that The Sun were going to run this story on Allardyce?
b: And as the agent of the incumbent manager at the time, did The Sun ask for your opinion of one or both stories – Steve Kean’s arrest and the Givet story?
NB: the point of asking you this question is to ascertain how much media negativity is media-driven for lurid stories, and how much is genuine public interest stories. As someone highly experienced in dealing with media, we welcome your insight.
 
4: It has been reported, and confirmed, that the Premier League vetoed – at least initially – the move of Mauro Formica to Blackburn because of a ‘third party ownership’ issue around the player. You yourself have spoken about working tirelessly for Rovers through the January 2011 transfer window in which Formica eventually moved, so:
a: What exactly was the third party issue with Formica?
b: Who owned him, if it wasn’t Newell’s Old Boys, when the deal was first proposed?
c: How many transfer deals, incoming to Blackburn or outgoing from Rovers, were you personally involved with during the January 2011 window?
d: What was your specific involvement in those deals and were you paid regular agents’ fees? Or flat commissions for helping Venky’s? Or nothing because you just wanted to assist them?
e: A leaked letter from John Williams et al written in January 2011 suggested the ‘old board’ were not happy with mandates being given to you / SEM during that period. Were you aware of their concerns?
f: It has been reported an associate of yours was paid a large agent’s fee when Rochina moved and the agent in question has confirmed you worked together on that deal. Did you receive money from that deal?
g: If Formica’s deal was stopped because of third party involvement, was there originally a plan to bring other players in with third party ownership?
h: Are you aware of the Premier League preventing any other transfer deals in or out of Blackburn, after the Formica deal?
i: It is widely believed that Steve Kean has had only marginal involvement in Rovers transfer deals and Venky’s have been using a variety of inexperienced advisors and unconventional methods to get players since January 2011. Can you confirm what you know about this? And why has Steve Kean never gone public about this apparent lack of influence?
 
5: Do you or Steve Kean have any share in Rovers or options to have any shares in Rovers, or own any shares in any Venky’s company or subsidiary, or any agreement that gives you an option on any such shares, now or in the future?
 
6: In your interview on Sky in January, you said you’d had no business dealings with Venky’s since January 2011 but reports from fans claim you attended a meeting in Pune in October 2011 between Ian Battersby and Ian Currie, and Mrs Desai. Is that true? If so, what was the purpose and outcome of that meeting?
 
7: In your Sky interview you suggested that the protests were ‘too well organised’ and ‘darker forces’ were at work. Could you specify what you meant? We as fans want the best for our club. You have said you want the best for your club. We appeal to you for openness and transparency on what you meant so we can all tackle any ‘darker forces’ together.
 
8: Your solicitors issued a legal notice to me, asking for me not to discuss you in forthcoming BRFC Action Group activities. This was surprising considering you have refused to answer any prior communication or invitation we have sent you to discuss our club. Once again, in the spirit of all of use trying to do the best for Blackburn, can we arrange to meet please?
 
9: Steve Kean and Venky’s have both had legal letters from Sam Allardyce’s lawyers in relation to the video of Steve Kean filmed in Hong Kong. What is Steve Kean’s stance on what he said in that video?
 
10: Do you feel Venky’s have been good custodians of Rovers?
 
Kindest Regards
Glen Mullan
Can anyone really see Anderson hanging himself by answering any of these questions? Particularly after the vitriol he has received from the vast majority of supporters.

Do me a favour Glen you are clutching at some small straws now
I don't think Glen is clutching at straws. He's giving Anderson a chance to show he's willing to answer.
.
If he doesn't answer perhaps the F.A. or Premier League may want to know why, and start doing a bit of digging.
.
I think Glen and the others are going about it in a very clever way. How will it look to the F.A/Premier League if Anderson doesn't co-operate.
[quote][p][bold]Hippocroccapig[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kazz[/bold] wrote: As a group of Blackburn fans return to Lancashire this evening after three days of meetings in London with MPs and the FA about the plight of their club, Sportingintelligence publishes a letter, in full below, sent last week by the same campaigners to Jerome Anderson, the agent of Rovers’ manager, Steve Kean. The letter appeals to Anderson for help, seeking answers to 23 questions relating to why Blackburn has been run in the way it has since Venky’s took over. Glen Mullan, the chair of the BRFC Action Group, writes in the letter: “You have consistently said in public that you have the best interests of Rovers and the fans at heart. If this indeed is true, then please help.” The letters seeks clarity about the precise role that Anderson played at the club. Anderson has spoken about sleeping at the training ground as he worked on club business in January 2011. Anderson has consistently and strenuously insisted that he has had no hands-on role at Blackburn whatsoever since the end of the January 2011 transfer window. Mullan explains in the letter that the fans are frustrated at a lack of answers from anyone connected with the club, hence the appeal to Anderson. No response has been forthcoming yet. On Wednesday, the Action Group met in Westminster with lifelong Rovers fan and local MP, Jack Straw, as well as with two other local MPs, Graham Jones and Jake Berry. The group then attended at a private 45-minute meeting with sports minister Hugh Robertson, who listened to their concerns about what’s happened to Rovers. It is understood the fans passed over hundreds of pages of paperwork outlining their concerns, and asked if Robertson could investigate whether better football governance might have prevented the mess at Ewood Park. It is understood that the group, together with the MPs, will prepare a specific list of questions about the ownership of the club, the influence upon the decision-making processes by external parties at different points, and how certain contracts were drawn up. Robertson is believed to have promised that he will seek answers from the relevant authorities on these matters. The fans had already had a private meeting with Premier League chief executive Richard Scudamore. Toda y they met at Wembley with senior FA officials who work on compliance issues at the governing body. Mullan told Sportingintelligence this evening: “We’re ecstatic simply to have had these meetings to state our concerns to people who have real power to help us find answers. “To be able to go to Parliament and be given a platform to talk shows us that there are people willing to listen. We’ve handed over all kinds of information, and if the MPs, the FA, the Premier League or a combination of all of them can use their resources and expertise to help us find some answers, it will have been worth it. “We’re just seeking honest answers to basic questions about our own football club. What we’re really pleased about this week is that people with clout are now putting their weight behind our cause.” Aside from on-pitch failings that led to Rovers’ relegation, the fans’ major concerns revolve around where the power at Rovers really lies; why senior executives are apparently impotent in key decisions at the club; why Kean remains manager despite results over 18 months worse than many peers who’ve been fired while doing better; whether the authorities have any ongoing concerns over the way transfers have been conducted; and what if any concerns those authorities have had in the past 18 months. . AN ARCHIVE OF Rovers STORIES IS HERE Follow SPORTINGINTELLIGENCE on Twitter Sportingintelligence home page . Letter from Blackburn Rovers FC Action Group to Jerome Anderson, 6 June 2012 Dear Mr Anderson, I’m writing to you today in the hope that you may be able to help Blackburn fans understand what is going on at our club. Nobody with any connection or affection for the club can fail to see that something has gone very badly wrong at Rovers since Venky’s took over, although the exact reasons remain unclear. We as fans have asked the club questions – no reply. We have asked the owners – no reply. We have asked for meetings with officials and with the manager – these meetings were promised and never happened. We have asked everyone we can possibly think of for help in finding answers to basic questions about what has happened at Rovers in the past 18 months – and why. It is in this spirit, of wanting simple, straight, honest information, which we appeal for your assistance in answering some questions for us. We ask you for several reasons, namely - you are somebody who has acknowledged yourself that you were ‘inside’ Rovers for a least a short while, which is more than most of us. you are agent of the manager, Steve Kean, who at times seems to the only person who knows what Mrs Desai is thinking, and we think it a reasonable assumption that therefore you will know much of what Steve Kean knows. you have consistently said in public that you have the best interests of Rovers and the fans at heart. If this indeed is true, then please help us by answering the following questions.   Questions for Mr Anderson, the answers to which the fans of Blackburn feel will give us a much clearer picture of what has happened to our football club. 1: Could you clarify how you first got involved in the sale of Blackburn? Spec ific ally - a: Who hired you to help find a buyer, and when, and who if anybody paid you a commission fee for the introduction? b: When did you first meet anyone from Venky’s and / or the Rao family in person? c: Did you or SEM or Kentaro have any previous business ties to Venky’s before the Blackburn takeover?   2: What role did you play in the hiring of Steve Kean as Blackburn’s manager? Specif ical ly - a: Did you ever advise Venky’s that Sam Allardyce should be relieved of his job? b: When did Steve Kean first meeting anyone from Venky’s, and Mrs Desai specifically? c: Did you draw up, oversee or have any role in the preparation of Steve Kean’s management contract while you were working for Venky’s?   3: Steve Kean was arrested for drinking driving in May 2011 – and later convicted. Kean’s belief was fans spiked his drink, a view that alienated many supporters. News of Kean’s arrest was first widely reported on 17 May 2011, exactly the same day that The Sun ran a big story about Gael Givet and alleged irregular payments made to a contact of Sam Allardyce’s around Givet’s transfer. a: Did you have any prior knowledge that The Sun were going to run this story on Allardyce? b: And as the agent of the incumbent manager at the time, did The Sun ask for your opinion of one or both stories – Steve Kean’s arrest and the Givet story? NB: the point of asking you this question is to ascertain how much media negativity is media-driven for lurid stories, and how much is genuine public interest stories. As someone highly experienced in dealing with media, we welcome your insight.   4: It has been reported, and confirmed, that the Premier League vetoed – at least initially – the move of Mauro Formica to Blackburn because of a ‘third party ownership’ issue around the player. You yourself have spoken about working tirelessly for Rovers through the January 2011 transfer window in which Formica eventually moved, so: a: What exactly was the third party issue with Formica? b: Who owned him, if it wasn’t Newell’s Old Boys, when the deal was first proposed? c: How many transfer deals, incoming to Blackburn or outgoing from Rovers, were you personally involved with during the January 2011 window? d: What was your specific involvement in those deals and were you paid regular agents’ fees? Or flat commissions for helping Venky’s? Or nothing because you just wanted to assist them? e: A leaked letter from John Williams et al written in January 2011 suggested the ‘old board’ were not happy with mandates being given to you / SEM during that period. Were you aware of their concerns? f: It has been reported an associate of yours was paid a large agent’s fee when Rochina moved and the agent in question has confirmed you worked together on that deal. Did you receive money from that deal? g: If Formica’s deal was stopped because of third party involvement, was there originally a plan to bring other players in with third party ownership? h: Are you aware of the Premier League preventing any other transfer deals in or out of Blackburn, after the Formica deal? i: It is widely believed that Steve Kean has had only marginal involvement in Rovers transfer deals and Venky’s have been using a variety of inexperienced advisors and unconventional methods to get players since January 2011. Can you confirm what you know about this? And why has Steve Kean never gone public about this apparent lack of influence?   5: Do you or Steve Kean have any share in Rovers or options to have any shares in Rovers, or own any shares in any Venky’s company or subsidiary, or any agreement that gives you an option on any such shares, now or in the future?   6: In your interview on Sky in January, you said you’d had no business dealings with Venky’s since January 2011 but reports from fans claim you attended a meeting in Pune in October 2011 between Ian Battersby and Ian Currie, and Mrs Desai. Is that true? If so, what was the purpose and outcome of that meeting?   7: In your Sky interview you suggested that the protests were ‘too well organised’ and ‘darker forces’ were at work. Could you specify what you meant? We as fans want the best for our club. You have said you want the best for your club. We appeal to you for openness and transparency on what you meant so we can all tackle any ‘darker forces’ together.   8: Your solicitors issued a legal notice to me, asking for me not to discuss you in forthcoming BRFC Action Group activities. This was surprising considering you have refused to answer any prior communication or invitation we have sent you to discuss our club. Once again, in the spirit of all of use trying to do the best for Blackburn, can we arrange to meet please?   9: Steve Kean and Venky’s have both had legal letters from Sam Allardyce’s lawyers in relation to the video of Steve Kean filmed in Hong Kong. What is Steve Kean’s stance on what he said in that video?   10: Do you feel Venky’s have been good custodians of Rovers?   Kindest Regards Glen Mullan[/p][/quote]Can anyone really see Anderson hanging himself by answering any of these questions? Particularly after the vitriol he has received from the vast majority of supporters. Do me a favour Glen you are clutching at some small straws now[/p][/quote]I don't think Glen is clutching at straws. He's giving Anderson a chance to show he's willing to answer. . If he doesn't answer perhaps the F.A. or Premier League may want to know why, and start doing a bit of digging. . I think Glen and the others are going about it in a very clever way. How will it look to the F.A/Premier League if Anderson doesn't co-operate. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 3

9:52am Fri 15 Jun 12

French Rover says...

kazz wrote:
As a group of Blackburn fans return to Lancashire this evening after three days of meetings in London with MPs and the FA about the plight of their club, Sportingintelligence publishes a letter, in full below, sent last week by the same campaigners to Jerome Anderson, the agent of Rovers’ manager, Steve Kean.
The letter appeals to Anderson for help, seeking answers to 23 questions relating to why Blackburn has been run in the way it has since Venky’s took over.
Glen Mullan, the chair of the BRFC Action Group, writes in the letter: “You have consistently said in public that you have the best interests of Rovers and the fans at heart. If this indeed is true, then please help.”
The letters seeks clarity about the precise role that Anderson played at the club. Anderson has spoken about sleeping at the training ground as he worked on club business in January 2011.
Anderson has consistently and strenuously insisted that he has had no hands-on role at Blackburn whatsoever since the end of the January 2011 transfer window.
Mullan explains in the letter that the fans are frustrated at a lack of answers from anyone connected with the club, hence the appeal to Anderson. No response has been forthcoming yet.
On Wednesday, the Action Group met in Westminster with lifelong Rovers fan and local MP, Jack Straw, as well as with two other local MPs, Graham Jones and Jake Berry.
The group then attended at a private 45-minute meeting with sports minister Hugh Robertson, who listened to their concerns about what’s happened to Rovers.
It is understood the fans passed over hundreds of pages of paperwork outlining their concerns, and asked if Robertson could investigate whether better football governance might have prevented the mess at Ewood Park.
It is understood that the group, together with the MPs, will prepare a specific list of questions about the ownership of the club, the influence upon the decision-making processes by external parties at different points, and how certain contracts were drawn up.
Robertson is believed to have promised that he will seek answers from the relevant authorities on these matters.
The fans had already had a private meeting with Premier League chief executive Richard Scudamore. Toda
y they met at Wembley with senior FA officials who work on compliance issues at the governing body.
Mullan told Sportingintelligence this evening: “We’re ecstatic simply to have had these meetings to state our concerns to people who have real power to help us find answers.
“To be able to go to Parliament and be given a platform to talk shows us that there are people willing to listen. We’ve handed over all kinds of information, and if the MPs, the FA, the Premier League or a combination of all of them can use their resources and expertise to help us find some answers, it will have been worth it.
“We’re just seeking honest answers to basic questions about our own football club. What we’re really pleased about this week is that people with clout are now putting their weight behind our cause.”
Aside from on-pitch failings that led to Rovers’ relegation, the fans’ major concerns revolve around where the power at Rovers really lies; why senior executives are apparently impotent in key decisions at the club; why Kean remains manager despite results over 18 months worse than many peers who’ve been fired while doing better; whether the authorities have any ongoing concerns over the way transfers have been conducted; and what if any concerns those authorities have had in the past 18 months.
.
AN ARCHIVE OF Rovers STORIES IS HERE
Follow SPORTINGINTELLIGENCE on Twitter
Sportingintelligence home page
.
Letter from Blackburn Rovers FC Action Group to Jerome Anderson, 6 June 2012
Dear Mr Anderson,
I’m writing to you today in the hope that you may be able to help Blackburn fans understand what is going on at our club.
Nobody with any connection or affection for the club can fail to see that something has gone very badly wrong at Rovers since Venky’s took over, although the exact reasons remain unclear.
We as fans have asked the club questions – no reply. We have asked the owners – no reply. We have asked for meetings with officials and with the manager – these meetings were promised and never happened.
We have asked everyone we can possibly think of for help in finding answers to basic questions about what has happened at Rovers in the past 18 months – and why.
It is in this spirit, of wanting simple, straight, honest information, which we appeal for your assistance in answering some questions for us. We ask you for several reasons, namely -
you are somebody who has acknowledged yourself that you were ‘inside’ Rovers for a least a short while, which is more than most of us.
you are agent of the manager, Steve Kean, who at times seems to the only person who knows what Mrs Desai is thinking, and we think it a reasonable assumption that therefore you will know much of what Steve Kean knows.
you have consistently said in public that you have the best interests of Rovers and the fans at heart. If this indeed is true, then please help us by answering the following questions.
 
Questions for Mr Anderson, the answers to which the fans of Blackburn feel will give us a much clearer picture of what has happened to our football club.
1: Could you clarify how you first got involved in the sale of Blackburn? Spec
ific
ally -
a: Who hired you to help find a buyer, and when, and who if anybody paid you a commission fee for the introduction?
b: When did you first meet anyone from Venky’s and / or the Rao family in person?
c: Did you or SEM or Kentaro have any previous business ties to Venky’s before the Blackburn takeover?
 
2: What role did you play in the hiring of Steve Kean as Blackburn’s manager? Specif
ical
ly -
a: Did you ever advise Venky’s that Sam Allardyce should be relieved of his job?
b: When did Steve Kean first meeting anyone from Venky’s, and Mrs Desai specifically?
c: Did you draw up, oversee or have any role in the preparation of Steve Kean’s management contract while you were working for Venky’s?
 
3: Steve Kean was arrested for drinking driving in May 2011 – and later convicted. Kean’s belief was fans spiked his drink, a view that alienated many supporters. News of Kean’s arrest was first widely reported on 17 May 2011, exactly the same day that The Sun ran a big story about Gael Givet and alleged irregular payments made to a contact of Sam Allardyce’s around Givet’s transfer.
a: Did you have any prior knowledge that The Sun were going to run this story on Allardyce?
b: And as the agent of the incumbent manager at the time, did The Sun ask for your opinion of one or both stories – Steve Kean’s arrest and the Givet story?
NB: the point of asking you this question is to ascertain how much media negativity is media-driven for lurid stories, and how much is genuine public interest stories. As someone highly experienced in dealing with media, we welcome your insight.
 
4: It has been reported, and confirmed, that the Premier League vetoed – at least initially – the move of Mauro Formica to Blackburn because of a ‘third party ownership’ issue around the player. You yourself have spoken about working tirelessly for Rovers through the January 2011 transfer window in which Formica eventually moved, so:
a: What exactly was the third party issue with Formica?
b: Who owned him, if it wasn’t Newell’s Old Boys, when the deal was first proposed?
c: How many transfer deals, incoming to Blackburn or outgoing from Rovers, were you personally involved with during the January 2011 window?
d: What was your specific involvement in those deals and were you paid regular agents’ fees? Or flat commissions for helping Venky’s? Or nothing because you just wanted to assist them?
e: A leaked letter from John Williams et al written in January 2011 suggested the ‘old board’ were not happy with mandates being given to you / SEM during that period. Were you aware of their concerns?
f: It has been reported an associate of yours was paid a large agent’s fee when Rochina moved and the agent in question has confirmed you worked together on that deal. Did you receive money from that deal?
g: If Formica’s deal was stopped because of third party involvement, was there originally a plan to bring other players in with third party ownership?
h: Are you aware of the Premier League preventing any other transfer deals in or out of Blackburn, after the Formica deal?
i: It is widely believed that Steve Kean has had only marginal involvement in Rovers transfer deals and Venky’s have been using a variety of inexperienced advisors and unconventional methods to get players since January 2011. Can you confirm what you know about this? And why has Steve Kean never gone public about this apparent lack of influence?
 
5: Do you or Steve Kean have any share in Rovers or options to have any shares in Rovers, or own any shares in any Venky’s company or subsidiary, or any agreement that gives you an option on any such shares, now or in the future?
 
6: In your interview on Sky in January, you said you’d had no business dealings with Venky’s since January 2011 but reports from fans claim you attended a meeting in Pune in October 2011 between Ian Battersby and Ian Currie, and Mrs Desai. Is that true? If so, what was the purpose and outcome of that meeting?
 
7: In your Sky interview you suggested that the protests were ‘too well organised’ and ‘darker forces’ were at work. Could you specify what you meant? We as fans want the best for our club. You have said you want the best for your club. We appeal to you for openness and transparency on what you meant so we can all tackle any ‘darker forces’ together.
 
8: Your solicitors issued a legal notice to me, asking for me not to discuss you in forthcoming BRFC Action Group activities. This was surprising considering you have refused to answer any prior communication or invitation we have sent you to discuss our club. Once again, in the spirit of all of use trying to do the best for Blackburn, can we arrange to meet please?
 
9: Steve Kean and Venky’s have both had legal letters from Sam Allardyce’s lawyers in relation to the video of Steve Kean filmed in Hong Kong. What is Steve Kean’s stance on what he said in that video?
 
10: Do you feel Venky’s have been good custodians of Rovers?
 
Kindest Regards
Glen Mullan
The BRAG letter to Anderson asks for answers and clarification on around ten different points that all Rovers fans would love to know the answers to....

but IMO there is little chance of him responding to the letter/questions. He will say (ih says anything) that none of the items mentioned are anything to do with anyone but him and the club and its owners.

But at least the questions are out there for everyone to see some of the key concerns that Rovers fans have about his involvement in this whole sorry sad mess.

Maybe he will be shamefaced enough to make some comment other than 'no comment' - but I doubt it.

But well done Glen and the group for getting these meetings arranged. This in itself is a big achievement and another forward step towards ridding the club of these unwanted people. It also shows them that they will not get away with sweeping this under the carpet or hoping by not commenting that all the continued and unwelcome publicity will go away.

No hiding place for Mr A, Mr K or the V's....
[quote][p][bold]kazz[/bold] wrote: As a group of Blackburn fans return to Lancashire this evening after three days of meetings in London with MPs and the FA about the plight of their club, Sportingintelligence publishes a letter, in full below, sent last week by the same campaigners to Jerome Anderson, the agent of Rovers’ manager, Steve Kean. The letter appeals to Anderson for help, seeking answers to 23 questions relating to why Blackburn has been run in the way it has since Venky’s took over. Glen Mullan, the chair of the BRFC Action Group, writes in the letter: “You have consistently said in public that you have the best interests of Rovers and the fans at heart. If this indeed is true, then please help.” The letters seeks clarity about the precise role that Anderson played at the club. Anderson has spoken about sleeping at the training ground as he worked on club business in January 2011. Anderson has consistently and strenuously insisted that he has had no hands-on role at Blackburn whatsoever since the end of the January 2011 transfer window. Mullan explains in the letter that the fans are frustrated at a lack of answers from anyone connected with the club, hence the appeal to Anderson. No response has been forthcoming yet. On Wednesday, the Action Group met in Westminster with lifelong Rovers fan and local MP, Jack Straw, as well as with two other local MPs, Graham Jones and Jake Berry. The group then attended at a private 45-minute meeting with sports minister Hugh Robertson, who listened to their concerns about what’s happened to Rovers. It is understood the fans passed over hundreds of pages of paperwork outlining their concerns, and asked if Robertson could investigate whether better football governance might have prevented the mess at Ewood Park. It is understood that the group, together with the MPs, will prepare a specific list of questions about the ownership of the club, the influence upon the decision-making processes by external parties at different points, and how certain contracts were drawn up. Robertson is believed to have promised that he will seek answers from the relevant authorities on these matters. The fans had already had a private meeting with Premier League chief executive Richard Scudamore. Toda y they met at Wembley with senior FA officials who work on compliance issues at the governing body. Mullan told Sportingintelligence this evening: “We’re ecstatic simply to have had these meetings to state our concerns to people who have real power to help us find answers. “To be able to go to Parliament and be given a platform to talk shows us that there are people willing to listen. We’ve handed over all kinds of information, and if the MPs, the FA, the Premier League or a combination of all of them can use their resources and expertise to help us find some answers, it will have been worth it. “We’re just seeking honest answers to basic questions about our own football club. What we’re really pleased about this week is that people with clout are now putting their weight behind our cause.” Aside from on-pitch failings that led to Rovers’ relegation, the fans’ major concerns revolve around where the power at Rovers really lies; why senior executives are apparently impotent in key decisions at the club; why Kean remains manager despite results over 18 months worse than many peers who’ve been fired while doing better; whether the authorities have any ongoing concerns over the way transfers have been conducted; and what if any concerns those authorities have had in the past 18 months. . AN ARCHIVE OF Rovers STORIES IS HERE Follow SPORTINGINTELLIGENCE on Twitter Sportingintelligence home page . Letter from Blackburn Rovers FC Action Group to Jerome Anderson, 6 June 2012 Dear Mr Anderson, I’m writing to you today in the hope that you may be able to help Blackburn fans understand what is going on at our club. Nobody with any connection or affection for the club can fail to see that something has gone very badly wrong at Rovers since Venky’s took over, although the exact reasons remain unclear. We as fans have asked the club questions – no reply. We have asked the owners – no reply. We have asked for meetings with officials and with the manager – these meetings were promised and never happened. We have asked everyone we can possibly think of for help in finding answers to basic questions about what has happened at Rovers in the past 18 months – and why. It is in this spirit, of wanting simple, straight, honest information, which we appeal for your assistance in answering some questions for us. We ask you for several reasons, namely - you are somebody who has acknowledged yourself that you were ‘inside’ Rovers for a least a short while, which is more than most of us. you are agent of the manager, Steve Kean, who at times seems to the only person who knows what Mrs Desai is thinking, and we think it a reasonable assumption that therefore you will know much of what Steve Kean knows. you have consistently said in public that you have the best interests of Rovers and the fans at heart. If this indeed is true, then please help us by answering the following questions.   Questions for Mr Anderson, the answers to which the fans of Blackburn feel will give us a much clearer picture of what has happened to our football club. 1: Could you clarify how you first got involved in the sale of Blackburn? Spec ific ally - a: Who hired you to help find a buyer, and when, and who if anybody paid you a commission fee for the introduction? b: When did you first meet anyone from Venky’s and / or the Rao family in person? c: Did you or SEM or Kentaro have any previous business ties to Venky’s before the Blackburn takeover?   2: What role did you play in the hiring of Steve Kean as Blackburn’s manager? Specif ical ly - a: Did you ever advise Venky’s that Sam Allardyce should be relieved of his job? b: When did Steve Kean first meeting anyone from Venky’s, and Mrs Desai specifically? c: Did you draw up, oversee or have any role in the preparation of Steve Kean’s management contract while you were working for Venky’s?   3: Steve Kean was arrested for drinking driving in May 2011 – and later convicted. Kean’s belief was fans spiked his drink, a view that alienated many supporters. News of Kean’s arrest was first widely reported on 17 May 2011, exactly the same day that The Sun ran a big story about Gael Givet and alleged irregular payments made to a contact of Sam Allardyce’s around Givet’s transfer. a: Did you have any prior knowledge that The Sun were going to run this story on Allardyce? b: And as the agent of the incumbent manager at the time, did The Sun ask for your opinion of one or both stories – Steve Kean’s arrest and the Givet story? NB: the point of asking you this question is to ascertain how much media negativity is media-driven for lurid stories, and how much is genuine public interest stories. As someone highly experienced in dealing with media, we welcome your insight.   4: It has been reported, and confirmed, that the Premier League vetoed – at least initially – the move of Mauro Formica to Blackburn because of a ‘third party ownership’ issue around the player. You yourself have spoken about working tirelessly for Rovers through the January 2011 transfer window in which Formica eventually moved, so: a: What exactly was the third party issue with Formica? b: Who owned him, if it wasn’t Newell’s Old Boys, when the deal was first proposed? c: How many transfer deals, incoming to Blackburn or outgoing from Rovers, were you personally involved with during the January 2011 window? d: What was your specific involvement in those deals and were you paid regular agents’ fees? Or flat commissions for helping Venky’s? Or nothing because you just wanted to assist them? e: A leaked letter from John Williams et al written in January 2011 suggested the ‘old board’ were not happy with mandates being given to you / SEM during that period. Were you aware of their concerns? f: It has been reported an associate of yours was paid a large agent’s fee when Rochina moved and the agent in question has confirmed you worked together on that deal. Did you receive money from that deal? g: If Formica’s deal was stopped because of third party involvement, was there originally a plan to bring other players in with third party ownership? h: Are you aware of the Premier League preventing any other transfer deals in or out of Blackburn, after the Formica deal? i: It is widely believed that Steve Kean has had only marginal involvement in Rovers transfer deals and Venky’s have been using a variety of inexperienced advisors and unconventional methods to get players since January 2011. Can you confirm what you know about this? And why has Steve Kean never gone public about this apparent lack of influence?   5: Do you or Steve Kean have any share in Rovers or options to have any shares in Rovers, or own any shares in any Venky’s company or subsidiary, or any agreement that gives you an option on any such shares, now or in the future?   6: In your interview on Sky in January, you said you’d had no business dealings with Venky’s since January 2011 but reports from fans claim you attended a meeting in Pune in October 2011 between Ian Battersby and Ian Currie, and Mrs Desai. Is that true? If so, what was the purpose and outcome of that meeting?   7: In your Sky interview you suggested that the protests were ‘too well organised’ and ‘darker forces’ were at work. Could you specify what you meant? We as fans want the best for our club. You have said you want the best for your club. We appeal to you for openness and transparency on what you meant so we can all tackle any ‘darker forces’ together.   8: Your solicitors issued a legal notice to me, asking for me not to discuss you in forthcoming BRFC Action Group activities. This was surprising considering you have refused to answer any prior communication or invitation we have sent you to discuss our club. Once again, in the spirit of all of use trying to do the best for Blackburn, can we arrange to meet please?   9: Steve Kean and Venky’s have both had legal letters from Sam Allardyce’s lawyers in relation to the video of Steve Kean filmed in Hong Kong. What is Steve Kean’s stance on what he said in that video?   10: Do you feel Venky’s have been good custodians of Rovers?   Kindest Regards Glen Mullan[/p][/quote]The BRAG letter to Anderson asks for answers and clarification on around ten different points that all Rovers fans would love to know the answers to.... but IMO there is little chance of him responding to the letter/questions. He will say (ih says anything) that none of the items mentioned are anything to do with anyone but him and the club and its owners. But at least the questions are out there for everyone to see some of the key concerns that Rovers fans have about his involvement in this whole sorry sad mess. Maybe he will be shamefaced enough to make some comment other than 'no comment' - but I doubt it. But well done Glen and the group for getting these meetings arranged. This in itself is a big achievement and another forward step towards ridding the club of these unwanted people. It also shows them that they will not get away with sweeping this under the carpet or hoping by not commenting that all the continued and unwelcome publicity will go away. No hiding place for Mr A, Mr K or the V's.... French Rover
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9:56am Fri 15 Jun 12

fickle fan says...

Hippocroccapig wrote:
kazz wrote:
As a group of Blackburn fans return to Lancashire this evening after three days of meetings in London with MPs and the FA about the plight of their club, Sportingintelligence publishes a letter, in full below, sent last week by the same campaigners to Jerome Anderson, the agent of Rovers’ manager, Steve Kean.
The letter appeals to Anderson for help, seeking answers to 23 questions relating to why Blackburn has been run in the way it has since Venky’s took over.
Glen Mullan, the chair of the BRFC Action Group, writes in the letter: “You have consistently said in public that you have the best interests of Rovers and the fans at heart. If this indeed is true, then please help.”
The letters seeks clarity about the precise role that Anderson played at the club. Anderson has spoken about sleeping at the training ground as he worked on club business in January 2011.
Anderson has consistently and strenuously insisted that he has had no hands-on role at Blackburn whatsoever since the end of the January 2011 transfer window.
Mullan explains in the letter that the fans are frustrated at a lack of answers from anyone connected with the club, hence the appeal to Anderson. No response has been forthcoming yet.
On Wednesday, the Action Group met in Westminster with lifelong Rovers fan and local MP, Jack Straw, as well as with two other local MPs, Graham Jones and Jake Berry.
The group then attended at a private 45-minute meeting with sports minister Hugh Robertson, who listened to their concerns about what’s happened to Rovers.
It is understood the fans passed over hundreds of pages of paperwork outlining their concerns, and asked if Robertson could investigate whether better football governance might have prevented the mess at Ewood Park.
It is understood that the group, together with the MPs, will prepare a specific list of questions about the ownership of the club, the influence upon the decision-making processes by external parties at different points, and how certain contracts were drawn up.
Robertson is believed to have promised that he will seek answers from the relevant authorities on these matters.
The fans had already had a private meeting with Premier League chief executive Richard Scudamore. Toda

y they met at Wembley with senior FA officials who work on compliance issues at the governing body.
Mullan told Sportingintelligence this evening: “We’re ecstatic simply to have had these meetings to state our concerns to people who have real power to help us find answers.
“To be able to go to Parliament and be given a platform to talk shows us that there are people willing to listen. We’ve handed over all kinds of information, and if the MPs, the FA, the Premier League or a combination of all of them can use their resources and expertise to help us find some answers, it will have been worth it.
“We’re just seeking honest answers to basic questions about our own football club. What we’re really pleased about this week is that people with clout are now putting their weight behind our cause.”
Aside from on-pitch failings that led to Rovers’ relegation, the fans’ major concerns revolve around where the power at Rovers really lies; why senior executives are apparently impotent in key decisions at the club; why Kean remains manager despite results over 18 months worse than many peers who’ve been fired while doing better; whether the authorities have any ongoing concerns over the way transfers have been conducted; and what if any concerns those authorities have had in the past 18 months.
.
AN ARCHIVE OF Rovers STORIES IS HERE
Follow SPORTINGINTELLIGENCE on Twitter
Sportingintelligence home page
.
Letter from Blackburn Rovers FC Action Group to Jerome Anderson, 6 June 2012
Dear Mr Anderson,
I’m writing to you today in the hope that you may be able to help Blackburn fans understand what is going on at our club.
Nobody with any connection or affection for the club can fail to see that something has gone very badly wrong at Rovers since Venky’s took over, although the exact reasons remain unclear.
We as fans have asked the club questions – no reply. We have asked the owners – no reply. We have asked for meetings with officials and with the manager – these meetings were promised and never happened.
We have asked everyone we can possibly think of for help in finding answers to basic questions about what has happened at Rovers in the past 18 months – and why.
It is in this spirit, of wanting simple, straight, honest information, which we appeal for your assistance in answering some questions for us. We ask you for several reasons, namely -
you are somebody who has acknowledged yourself that you were ‘inside’ Rovers for a least a short while, which is more than most of us.
you are agent of the manager, Steve Kean, who at times seems to the only person who knows what Mrs Desai is thinking, and we think it a reasonable assumption that therefore you will know much of what Steve Kean knows.
you have consistently said in public that you have the best interests of Rovers and the fans at heart. If this indeed is true, then please help us by answering the following questions.
 
Questions for Mr Anderson, the answers to which the fans of Blackburn feel will give us a much clearer picture of what has happened to our football club.
1: Could you clarify how you first got involved in the sale of Blackburn? Spec

ific
ally -
a: Who hired you to help find a buyer, and when, and who if anybody paid you a commission fee for the introduction?
b: When did you first meet anyone from Venky’s and / or the Rao family in person?
c: Did you or SEM or Kentaro have any previous business ties to Venky’s before the Blackburn takeover?
 
2: What role did you play in the hiring of Steve Kean as Blackburn’s manager? Specif

ical
ly -
a: Did you ever advise Venky’s that Sam Allardyce should be relieved of his job?
b: When did Steve Kean first meeting anyone from Venky’s, and Mrs Desai specifically?
c: Did you draw up, oversee or have any role in the preparation of Steve Kean’s management contract while you were working for Venky’s?
 
3: Steve Kean was arrested for drinking driving in May 2011 – and later convicted. Kean’s belief was fans spiked his drink, a view that alienated many supporters. News of Kean’s arrest was first widely reported on 17 May 2011, exactly the same day that The Sun ran a big story about Gael Givet and alleged irregular payments made to a contact of Sam Allardyce’s around Givet’s transfer.
a: Did you have any prior knowledge that The Sun were going to run this story on Allardyce?
b: And as the agent of the incumbent manager at the time, did The Sun ask for your opinion of one or both stories – Steve Kean’s arrest and the Givet story?
NB: the point of asking you this question is to ascertain how much media negativity is media-driven for lurid stories, and how much is genuine public interest stories. As someone highly experienced in dealing with media, we welcome your insight.
 
4: It has been reported, and confirmed, that the Premier League vetoed – at least initially – the move of Mauro Formica to Blackburn because of a ‘third party ownership’ issue around the player. You yourself have spoken about working tirelessly for Rovers through the January 2011 transfer window in which Formica eventually moved, so:
a: What exactly was the third party issue with Formica?
b: Who owned him, if it wasn’t Newell’s Old Boys, when the deal was first proposed?
c: How many transfer deals, incoming to Blackburn or outgoing from Rovers, were you personally involved with during the January 2011 window?
d: What was your specific involvement in those deals and were you paid regular agents’ fees? Or flat commissions for helping Venky’s? Or nothing because you just wanted to assist them?
e: A leaked letter from John Williams et al written in January 2011 suggested the ‘old board’ were not happy with mandates being given to you / SEM during that period. Were you aware of their concerns?
f: It has been reported an associate of yours was paid a large agent’s fee when Rochina moved and the agent in question has confirmed you worked together on that deal. Did you receive money from that deal?
g: If Formica’s deal was stopped because of third party involvement, was there originally a plan to bring other players in with third party ownership?
h: Are you aware of the Premier League preventing any other transfer deals in or out of Blackburn, after the Formica deal?
i: It is widely believed that Steve Kean has had only marginal involvement in Rovers transfer deals and Venky’s have been using a variety of inexperienced advisors and unconventional methods to get players since January 2011. Can you confirm what you know about this? And why has Steve Kean never gone public about this apparent lack of influence?
 
5: Do you or Steve Kean have any share in Rovers or options to have any shares in Rovers, or own any shares in any Venky’s company or subsidiary, or any agreement that gives you an option on any such shares, now or in the future?
 
6: In your interview on Sky in January, you said you’d had no business dealings with Venky’s since January 2011 but reports from fans claim you attended a meeting in Pune in October 2011 between Ian Battersby and Ian Currie, and Mrs Desai. Is that true? If so, what was the purpose and outcome of that meeting?
 
7: In your Sky interview you suggested that the protests were ‘too well organised’ and ‘darker forces’ were at work. Could you specify what you meant? We as fans want the best for our club. You have said you want the best for your club. We appeal to you for openness and transparency on what you meant so we can all tackle any ‘darker forces’ together.
 
8: Your solicitors issued a legal notice to me, asking for me not to discuss you in forthcoming BRFC Action Group activities. This was surprising considering you have refused to answer any prior communication or invitation we have sent you to discuss our club. Once again, in the spirit of all of use trying to do the best for Blackburn, can we arrange to meet please?
 
9: Steve Kean and Venky’s have both had legal letters from Sam Allardyce’s lawyers in relation to the video of Steve Kean filmed in Hong Kong. What is Steve Kean’s stance on what he said in that video?
 
10: Do you feel Venky’s have been good custodians of Rovers?
 
Kindest Regards
Glen Mullan
Can anyone really see Anderson hanging himself by answering any of these questions? Particularly after the vitriol he has received from the vast majority of supporters.

Do me a favour Glen you are clutching at some small straws now
Why not ask the Walker trust about the events leading up to the sale of rovers and the dealings they had with Anderson
[quote][p][bold]Hippocroccapig[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kazz[/bold] wrote: As a group of Blackburn fans return to Lancashire this evening after three days of meetings in London with MPs and the FA about the plight of their club, Sportingintelligence publishes a letter, in full below, sent last week by the same campaigners to Jerome Anderson, the agent of Rovers’ manager, Steve Kean. The letter appeals to Anderson for help, seeking answers to 23 questions relating to why Blackburn has been run in the way it has since Venky’s took over. Glen Mullan, the chair of the BRFC Action Group, writes in the letter: “You have consistently said in public that you have the best interests of Rovers and the fans at heart. If this indeed is true, then please help.” The letters seeks clarity about the precise role that Anderson played at the club. Anderson has spoken about sleeping at the training ground as he worked on club business in January 2011. Anderson has consistently and strenuously insisted that he has had no hands-on role at Blackburn whatsoever since the end of the January 2011 transfer window. Mullan explains in the letter that the fans are frustrated at a lack of answers from anyone connected with the club, hence the appeal to Anderson. No response has been forthcoming yet. On Wednesday, the Action Group met in Westminster with lifelong Rovers fan and local MP, Jack Straw, as well as with two other local MPs, Graham Jones and Jake Berry. The group then attended at a private 45-minute meeting with sports minister Hugh Robertson, who listened to their concerns about what’s happened to Rovers. It is understood the fans passed over hundreds of pages of paperwork outlining their concerns, and asked if Robertson could investigate whether better football governance might have prevented the mess at Ewood Park. It is understood that the group, together with the MPs, will prepare a specific list of questions about the ownership of the club, the influence upon the decision-making processes by external parties at different points, and how certain contracts were drawn up. Robertson is believed to have promised that he will seek answers from the relevant authorities on these matters. The fans had already had a private meeting with Premier League chief executive Richard Scudamore. Toda y they met at Wembley with senior FA officials who work on compliance issues at the governing body. Mullan told Sportingintelligence this evening: “We’re ecstatic simply to have had these meetings to state our concerns to people who have real power to help us find answers. “To be able to go to Parliament and be given a platform to talk shows us that there are people willing to listen. We’ve handed over all kinds of information, and if the MPs, the FA, the Premier League or a combination of all of them can use their resources and expertise to help us find some answers, it will have been worth it. “We’re just seeking honest answers to basic questions about our own football club. What we’re really pleased about this week is that people with clout are now putting their weight behind our cause.” Aside from on-pitch failings that led to Rovers’ relegation, the fans’ major concerns revolve around where the power at Rovers really lies; why senior executives are apparently impotent in key decisions at the club; why Kean remains manager despite results over 18 months worse than many peers who’ve been fired while doing better; whether the authorities have any ongoing concerns over the way transfers have been conducted; and what if any concerns those authorities have had in the past 18 months. . AN ARCHIVE OF Rovers STORIES IS HERE Follow SPORTINGINTELLIGENCE on Twitter Sportingintelligence home page . Letter from Blackburn Rovers FC Action Group to Jerome Anderson, 6 June 2012 Dear Mr Anderson, I’m writing to you today in the hope that you may be able to help Blackburn fans understand what is going on at our club. Nobody with any connection or affection for the club can fail to see that something has gone very badly wrong at Rovers since Venky’s took over, although the exact reasons remain unclear. We as fans have asked the club questions – no reply. We have asked the owners – no reply. We have asked for meetings with officials and with the manager – these meetings were promised and never happened. We have asked everyone we can possibly think of for help in finding answers to basic questions about what has happened at Rovers in the past 18 months – and why. It is in this spirit, of wanting simple, straight, honest information, which we appeal for your assistance in answering some questions for us. We ask you for several reasons, namely - you are somebody who has acknowledged yourself that you were ‘inside’ Rovers for a least a short while, which is more than most of us. you are agent of the manager, Steve Kean, who at times seems to the only person who knows what Mrs Desai is thinking, and we think it a reasonable assumption that therefore you will know much of what Steve Kean knows. you have consistently said in public that you have the best interests of Rovers and the fans at heart. If this indeed is true, then please help us by answering the following questions.   Questions for Mr Anderson, the answers to which the fans of Blackburn feel will give us a much clearer picture of what has happened to our football club. 1: Could you clarify how you first got involved in the sale of Blackburn? Spec ific ally - a: Who hired you to help find a buyer, and when, and who if anybody paid you a commission fee for the introduction? b: When did you first meet anyone from Venky’s and / or the Rao family in person? c: Did you or SEM or Kentaro have any previous business ties to Venky’s before the Blackburn takeover?   2: What role did you play in the hiring of Steve Kean as Blackburn’s manager? Specif ical ly - a: Did you ever advise Venky’s that Sam Allardyce should be relieved of his job? b: When did Steve Kean first meeting anyone from Venky’s, and Mrs Desai specifically? c: Did you draw up, oversee or have any role in the preparation of Steve Kean’s management contract while you were working for Venky’s?   3: Steve Kean was arrested for drinking driving in May 2011 – and later convicted. Kean’s belief was fans spiked his drink, a view that alienated many supporters. News of Kean’s arrest was first widely reported on 17 May 2011, exactly the same day that The Sun ran a big story about Gael Givet and alleged irregular payments made to a contact of Sam Allardyce’s around Givet’s transfer. a: Did you have any prior knowledge that The Sun were going to run this story on Allardyce? b: And as the agent of the incumbent manager at the time, did The Sun ask for your opinion of one or both stories – Steve Kean’s arrest and the Givet story? NB: the point of asking you this question is to ascertain how much media negativity is media-driven for lurid stories, and how much is genuine public interest stories. As someone highly experienced in dealing with media, we welcome your insight.   4: It has been reported, and confirmed, that the Premier League vetoed – at least initially – the move of Mauro Formica to Blackburn because of a ‘third party ownership’ issue around the player. You yourself have spoken about working tirelessly for Rovers through the January 2011 transfer window in which Formica eventually moved, so: a: What exactly was the third party issue with Formica? b: Who owned him, if it wasn’t Newell’s Old Boys, when the deal was first proposed? c: How many transfer deals, incoming to Blackburn or outgoing from Rovers, were you personally involved with during the January 2011 window? d: What was your specific involvement in those deals and were you paid regular agents’ fees? Or flat commissions for helping Venky’s? Or nothing because you just wanted to assist them? e: A leaked letter from John Williams et al written in January 2011 suggested the ‘old board’ were not happy with mandates being given to you / SEM during that period. Were you aware of their concerns? f: It has been reported an associate of yours was paid a large agent’s fee when Rochina moved and the agent in question has confirmed you worked together on that deal. Did you receive money from that deal? g: If Formica’s deal was stopped because of third party involvement, was there originally a plan to bring other players in with third party ownership? h: Are you aware of the Premier League preventing any other transfer deals in or out of Blackburn, after the Formica deal? i: It is widely believed that Steve Kean has had only marginal involvement in Rovers transfer deals and Venky’s have been using a variety of inexperienced advisors and unconventional methods to get players since January 2011. Can you confirm what you know about this? And why has Steve Kean never gone public about this apparent lack of influence?   5: Do you or Steve Kean have any share in Rovers or options to have any shares in Rovers, or own any shares in any Venky’s company or subsidiary, or any agreement that gives you an option on any such shares, now or in the future?   6: In your interview on Sky in January, you said you’d had no business dealings with Venky’s since January 2011 but reports from fans claim you attended a meeting in Pune in October 2011 between Ian Battersby and Ian Currie, and Mrs Desai. Is that true? If so, what was the purpose and outcome of that meeting?   7: In your Sky interview you suggested that the protests were ‘too well organised’ and ‘darker forces’ were at work. Could you specify what you meant? We as fans want the best for our club. You have said you want the best for your club. We appeal to you for openness and transparency on what you meant so we can all tackle any ‘darker forces’ together.   8: Your solicitors issued a legal notice to me, asking for me not to discuss you in forthcoming BRFC Action Group activities. This was surprising considering you have refused to answer any prior communication or invitation we have sent you to discuss our club. Once again, in the spirit of all of use trying to do the best for Blackburn, can we arrange to meet please?   9: Steve Kean and Venky’s have both had legal letters from Sam Allardyce’s lawyers in relation to the video of Steve Kean filmed in Hong Kong. What is Steve Kean’s stance on what he said in that video?   10: Do you feel Venky’s have been good custodians of Rovers?   Kindest Regards Glen Mullan[/p][/quote]Can anyone really see Anderson hanging himself by answering any of these questions? Particularly after the vitriol he has received from the vast majority of supporters. Do me a favour Glen you are clutching at some small straws now[/p][/quote]Why not ask the Walker trust about the events leading up to the sale of rovers and the dealings they had with Anderson fickle fan
  • Score: 2

10:04am Fri 15 Jun 12

Rovers 1495 says...

Everybody seems to do well for themselves once they ditch Keano and his bent chums

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  • Score: 0

10:05am Fri 15 Jun 12

alfa111 says...

vicn1956 wrote:
"Why on earth they bothered to buy the club." We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££

££££££££££

££££££££££

££££££££

They are still in shock and confused- every word they say we take with a pinch of salt. To them lying seems as natural as breathing.

All the media luvvies are quiet about recommending kean for the Spurs job- or has their agent/s not told them to?
One of the shortest, truest and to the point realist comments for a while well said on here,spot on fella.
[quote][p][bold]vicn1956[/bold] wrote: "Why on earth they bothered to buy the club." We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££ They are still in shock and confused- every word they say we take with a pinch of salt. To them lying seems as natural as breathing. All the media luvvies are quiet about recommending kean for the Spurs job- or has their agent/s not told them to?[/p][/quote]One of the shortest, truest and to the point realist comments for a while well said on here,spot on fella. alfa111
  • Score: 1

10:17am Fri 15 Jun 12

fickle fan says...

alfa111 wrote:
vicn1956 wrote:
"Why on earth they bothered to buy the club." We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££


££££££££££


££££££££££


££££££££

They are still in shock and confused- every word they say we take with a pinch of salt. To them lying seems as natural as breathing.

All the media luvvies are quiet about recommending kean for the Spurs job- or has their agent/s not told them to?
One of the shortest, truest and to the point realist comments for a while well said on here,spot on fella.
Explain please how they are making money ?
[quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vicn1956[/bold] wrote: "Why on earth they bothered to buy the club." We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££ They are still in shock and confused- every word they say we take with a pinch of salt. To them lying seems as natural as breathing. All the media luvvies are quiet about recommending kean for the Spurs job- or has their agent/s not told them to?[/p][/quote]One of the shortest, truest and to the point realist comments for a while well said on here,spot on fella.[/p][/quote]Explain please how they are making money ? fickle fan
  • Score: -1

11:59am Fri 15 Jun 12

alfa111 says...

fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
vicn1956 wrote:
"Why on earth they bothered to buy the club." We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££



££££££££££



££££££££££



££££££££

They are still in shock and confused- every word they say we take with a pinch of salt. To them lying seems as natural as breathing.

All the media luvvies are quiet about recommending kean for the Spurs job- or has their agent/s not told them to?
One of the shortest, truest and to the point realist comments for a while well said on here,spot on fella.
Explain please how they are making money ?
Don't you know tickle tan?
[quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vicn1956[/bold] wrote: "Why on earth they bothered to buy the club." We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££ They are still in shock and confused- every word they say we take with a pinch of salt. To them lying seems as natural as breathing. All the media luvvies are quiet about recommending kean for the Spurs job- or has their agent/s not told them to?[/p][/quote]One of the shortest, truest and to the point realist comments for a while well said on here,spot on fella.[/p][/quote]Explain please how they are making money ?[/p][/quote]Don't you know tickle tan? alfa111
  • Score: 0

12:43pm Fri 15 Jun 12

alfa111 says...

fickle fan wrote:
vicn1956 wrote:
"Why on earth they bothered to buy the club." We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££


££££££££££


££££££££££


££££££££

They are still in shock and confused- every word they say we take with a pinch of salt. To them lying seems as natural as breathing.

All the media luvvies are quiet about recommending kean for the Spurs job- or has their agent/s not told them to?
We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ £££££
If they bought the club, paid off the debt and gave the manager 20m to spend on players how are they making money,
The clause in Jones` contract was not their doing and Samba refused to play.
Boll*cks they couldn't wait to sell Jones a`clear asset for rovers future in the PL, money money money =venkys they already new before buying the club what players they could make a quick return profit from,and why would you release a player,players who have been a major asset in keeping rovers in the PL with yrs of pro,experience as top players for years ?Nelson who now has signed a new 2yr `contract with spurs PL an example, clearly it was to chop the wage structure at the club, yes venkys truly were planning for the future? IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP,,HA,HA, how any one who is a rovers fan can come on here and even attempt to absolve kean or venkys or try to even put a reoson for venkys business **** up and then down rovers fans from wanting to fight for their town club is beyond me.Venkys paid off their debt with the selling of BRFC ONLY CHANCE OF STAYING IN THE PL.The 20 million on players kean bought who couldn't even get in the first team and the rest who are desperate to leave the club after one season of loyalty,dont make me laugh,funny how venkys are stating once again that no one is leaving the club, yet many have the get out clause written in their contract to leave the club, which was by the way a contractual agreement with the owners VENKYS stamp of aproaval who bought them, if they really wanted to stop them from fleeing the club and fleeing is what they are going to do, venkys would not have allowed these players their get out clause in the contract in the first place .Venkys future for BRFC is to buy short term and sell for profit and fook BRFC football future at the top level.
[quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vicn1956[/bold] wrote: "Why on earth they bothered to buy the club." We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££ They are still in shock and confused- every word they say we take with a pinch of salt. To them lying seems as natural as breathing. All the media luvvies are quiet about recommending kean for the Spurs job- or has their agent/s not told them to?[/p][/quote]We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ £££££ If they bought the club, paid off the debt and gave the manager 20m to spend on players how are they making money, The clause in Jones` contract was not their doing and Samba refused to play.[/p][/quote]Boll*cks they couldn't wait to sell Jones a`clear asset for rovers future in the PL, money money money =venkys they already new before buying the club what players they could make a quick return profit from,and why would you release a player,players who have been a major asset in keeping rovers in the PL with yrs of pro,experience as top players for years ?Nelson who now has signed a new 2yr `contract with spurs PL an example, clearly it was to chop the wage structure at the club, yes venkys truly were planning for the future? IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP,,HA,HA, how any one who is a rovers fan can come on here and even attempt to absolve kean or venkys or try to even put a reoson for venkys business **** up and then down rovers fans from wanting to fight for their town club is beyond me.Venkys paid off their debt with the selling of BRFC ONLY CHANCE OF STAYING IN THE PL.The 20 million on players kean bought who couldn't even get in the first team and the rest who are desperate to leave the club after one season of loyalty,dont make me laugh,funny how venkys are stating once again that no one is leaving the club, yet many have the get out clause written in their contract to leave the club, which was by the way a contractual agreement with the owners VENKYS stamp of aproaval who bought them, if they really wanted to stop them from fleeing the club and fleeing is what they are going to do, venkys would not have allowed these players their get out clause in the contract in the first place .Venkys future for BRFC is to buy short term and sell for profit and fook BRFC football future at the top level. alfa111
  • Score: 1

1:26pm Fri 15 Jun 12

fickle fan says...

alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
vicn1956 wrote:
"Why on earth they bothered to buy the club." We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££



££££££££££



££££££££££



££££££££

They are still in shock and confused- every word they say we take with a pinch of salt. To them lying seems as natural as breathing.

All the media luvvies are quiet about recommending kean for the Spurs job- or has their agent/s not told them to?
We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ £££££
If they bought the club, paid off the debt and gave the manager 20m to spend on players how are they making money,
The clause in Jones` contract was not their doing and Samba refused to play.
Boll*cks they couldn't wait to sell Jones a`clear asset for rovers future in the PL, money money money =venkys they already new before buying the club what players they could make a quick return profit from,and why would you release a player,players who have been a major asset in keeping rovers in the PL with yrs of pro,experience as top players for years ?Nelson who now has signed a new 2yr `contract with spurs PL an example, clearly it was to chop the wage structure at the club, yes venkys truly were planning for the future? IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP,,HA,HA, how any one who is a rovers fan can come on here and even attempt to absolve kean or venkys or try to even put a reoson for venkys business **** up and then down rovers fans from wanting to fight for their town club is beyond me.Venkys paid off their debt with the selling of BRFC ONLY CHANCE OF STAYING IN THE PL.The 20 million on players kean bought who couldn't even get in the first team and the rest who are desperate to leave the club after one season of loyalty,dont make me laugh,funny how venkys are stating once again that no one is leaving the club, yet many have the get out clause written in their contract to leave the club, which was by the way a contractual agreement with the owners VENKYS stamp of aproaval who bought them, if they really wanted to stop them from fleeing the club and fleeing is what they are going to do, venkys would not have allowed these players their get out clause in the contract in the first place .Venkys future for BRFC is to buy short term and sell for profit and fook BRFC football future at the top level.
You do not answer the point about how they are making money,

1.The clause in jones contract was made b4 the club sale,
2. I raised a point about how they are making money and having read your long winded reply you have not answered the point which i raised.
3. You seem to think that releasing Nelson who had been a long term injury and spending 20m on new players makes a profit.
4. Which other players have a get out clause that would make a profit.
Please dont make random statements which question my status as a BRFC fan just show everyone how a profit has been made with what has gone on.

Also when the club was sold who made a profit.
[quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vicn1956[/bold] wrote: "Why on earth they bothered to buy the club." We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££ They are still in shock and confused- every word they say we take with a pinch of salt. To them lying seems as natural as breathing. All the media luvvies are quiet about recommending kean for the Spurs job- or has their agent/s not told them to?[/p][/quote]We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ £££££ If they bought the club, paid off the debt and gave the manager 20m to spend on players how are they making money, The clause in Jones` contract was not their doing and Samba refused to play.[/p][/quote]Boll*cks they couldn't wait to sell Jones a`clear asset for rovers future in the PL, money money money =venkys they already new before buying the club what players they could make a quick return profit from,and why would you release a player,players who have been a major asset in keeping rovers in the PL with yrs of pro,experience as top players for years ?Nelson who now has signed a new 2yr `contract with spurs PL an example, clearly it was to chop the wage structure at the club, yes venkys truly were planning for the future? IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP,,HA,HA, how any one who is a rovers fan can come on here and even attempt to absolve kean or venkys or try to even put a reoson for venkys business **** up and then down rovers fans from wanting to fight for their town club is beyond me.Venkys paid off their debt with the selling of BRFC ONLY CHANCE OF STAYING IN THE PL.The 20 million on players kean bought who couldn't even get in the first team and the rest who are desperate to leave the club after one season of loyalty,dont make me laugh,funny how venkys are stating once again that no one is leaving the club, yet many have the get out clause written in their contract to leave the club, which was by the way a contractual agreement with the owners VENKYS stamp of aproaval who bought them, if they really wanted to stop them from fleeing the club and fleeing is what they are going to do, venkys would not have allowed these players their get out clause in the contract in the first place .Venkys future for BRFC is to buy short term and sell for profit and fook BRFC football future at the top level.[/p][/quote]You do not answer the point about how they are making money, 1.The clause in jones contract was made b4 the club sale, 2. I raised a point about how they are making money and having read your long winded reply you have not answered the point which i raised. 3. You seem to think that releasing Nelson who had been a long term injury and spending 20m on new players makes a profit. 4. Which other players have a get out clause that would make a profit. Please dont make random statements which question my status as a BRFC fan just show everyone how a profit has been made with what has gone on. Also when the club was sold who made a profit. fickle fan
  • Score: 0

1:34pm Fri 15 Jun 12

fickle fan says...

alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
vicn1956 wrote:
"Why on earth they bothered to buy the club." We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££



££££££££££



££££££££££



££££££££

They are still in shock and confused- every word they say we take with a pinch of salt. To them lying seems as natural as breathing.

All the media luvvies are quiet about recommending kean for the Spurs job- or has their agent/s not told them to?
We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ £££££
If they bought the club, paid off the debt and gave the manager 20m to spend on players how are they making money,
The clause in Jones` contract was not their doing and Samba refused to play.
Boll*cks they couldn't wait to sell Jones a`clear asset for rovers future in the PL, money money money =venkys they already new before buying the club what players they could make a quick return profit from,and why would you release a player,players who have been a major asset in keeping rovers in the PL with yrs of pro,experience as top players for years ?Nelson who now has signed a new 2yr `contract with spurs PL an example, clearly it was to chop the wage structure at the club, yes venkys truly were planning for the future? IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP,,HA,HA, how any one who is a rovers fan can come on here and even attempt to absolve kean or venkys or try to even put a reoson for venkys business **** up and then down rovers fans from wanting to fight for their town club is beyond me.Venkys paid off their debt with the selling of BRFC ONLY CHANCE OF STAYING IN THE PL.The 20 million on players kean bought who couldn't even get in the first team and the rest who are desperate to leave the club after one season of loyalty,dont make me laugh,funny how venkys are stating once again that no one is leaving the club, yet many have the get out clause written in their contract to leave the club, which was by the way a contractual agreement with the owners VENKYS stamp of aproaval who bought them, if they really wanted to stop them from fleeing the club and fleeing is what they are going to do, venkys would not have allowed these players their get out clause in the contract in the first place .Venkys future for BRFC is to buy short term and sell for profit and fook BRFC football future at the top level.
You do not answer the point about how they are making money,

1.The clause in jones contract was made b4 the club sale,
2. I raised a point about how they are making money and having read your long winded reply you have not answered the point which i raised.
3. You seem to think that releasing Nelson who had been a long term injury and spending 20m on new players makes a profit.
4. Which other players have a get out clause that would make a profit.
Please dont make random statements which question my status as a BRFC fan just show everyone how a profit has been made with what has gone on.

Also when the club was sold who made a profit.
[quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vicn1956[/bold] wrote: "Why on earth they bothered to buy the club." We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££ They are still in shock and confused- every word they say we take with a pinch of salt. To them lying seems as natural as breathing. All the media luvvies are quiet about recommending kean for the Spurs job- or has their agent/s not told them to?[/p][/quote]We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ £££££ If they bought the club, paid off the debt and gave the manager 20m to spend on players how are they making money, The clause in Jones` contract was not their doing and Samba refused to play.[/p][/quote]Boll*cks they couldn't wait to sell Jones a`clear asset for rovers future in the PL, money money money =venkys they already new before buying the club what players they could make a quick return profit from,and why would you release a player,players who have been a major asset in keeping rovers in the PL with yrs of pro,experience as top players for years ?Nelson who now has signed a new 2yr `contract with spurs PL an example, clearly it was to chop the wage structure at the club, yes venkys truly were planning for the future? IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP,,HA,HA, how any one who is a rovers fan can come on here and even attempt to absolve kean or venkys or try to even put a reoson for venkys business **** up and then down rovers fans from wanting to fight for their town club is beyond me.Venkys paid off their debt with the selling of BRFC ONLY CHANCE OF STAYING IN THE PL.The 20 million on players kean bought who couldn't even get in the first team and the rest who are desperate to leave the club after one season of loyalty,dont make me laugh,funny how venkys are stating once again that no one is leaving the club, yet many have the get out clause written in their contract to leave the club, which was by the way a contractual agreement with the owners VENKYS stamp of aproaval who bought them, if they really wanted to stop them from fleeing the club and fleeing is what they are going to do, venkys would not have allowed these players their get out clause in the contract in the first place .Venkys future for BRFC is to buy short term and sell for profit and fook BRFC football future at the top level.[/p][/quote]You do not answer the point about how they are making money, 1.The clause in jones contract was made b4 the club sale, 2. I raised a point about how they are making money and having read your long winded reply you have not answered the point which i raised. 3. You seem to think that releasing Nelson who had been a long term injury and spending 20m on new players makes a profit. 4. Which other players have a get out clause that would make a profit. Please dont make random statements which question my status as a BRFC fan just show everyone how a profit has been made with what has gone on. Also when the club was sold who made a profit. fickle fan
  • Score: 0

1:48pm Fri 15 Jun 12

alfa111 says...

fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
vicn1956 wrote:
"Why on earth they bothered to buy the club." We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££




££££££££££




££££££££££




££££££££

They are still in shock and confused- every word they say we take with a pinch of salt. To them lying seems as natural as breathing.

All the media luvvies are quiet about recommending kean for the Spurs job- or has their agent/s not told them to?
We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ £££££
If they bought the club, paid off the debt and gave the manager 20m to spend on players how are they making money,
The clause in Jones` contract was not their doing and Samba refused to play.
Boll*cks they couldn't wait to sell Jones a`clear asset for rovers future in the PL, money money money =venkys they already new before buying the club what players they could make a quick return profit from,and why would you release a player,players who have been a major asset in keeping rovers in the PL with yrs of pro,experience as top players for years ?Nelson who now has signed a new 2yr `contract with spurs PL an example, clearly it was to chop the wage structure at the club, yes venkys truly were planning for the future? IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP,,HA,HA, how any one who is a rovers fan can come on here and even attempt to absolve kean or venkys or try to even put a reoson for venkys business **** up and then down rovers fans from wanting to fight for their town club is beyond me.Venkys paid off their debt with the selling of BRFC ONLY CHANCE OF STAYING IN THE PL.The 20 million on players kean bought who couldn't even get in the first team and the rest who are desperate to leave the club after one season of loyalty,dont make me laugh,funny how venkys are stating once again that no one is leaving the club, yet many have the get out clause written in their contract to leave the club, which was by the way a contractual agreement with the owners VENKYS stamp of aproaval who bought them, if they really wanted to stop them from fleeing the club and fleeing is what they are going to do, venkys would not have allowed these players their get out clause in the contract in the first place .Venkys future for BRFC is to buy short term and sell for profit and fook BRFC football future at the top level.
You do not answer the point about how they are making money,

1.The clause in jones contract was made b4 the club sale,
2. I raised a point about how they are making money and having read your long winded reply you have not answered the point which i raised.
3. You seem to think that releasing Nelson who had been a long term injury and spending 20m on new players makes a profit.
4. Which other players have a get out clause that would make a profit.
Please dont make random statements which question my status as a BRFC fan just show everyone how a profit has been made with what has gone on.

Also when the club was sold who made a profit.
Talk to the hand,no point in enlightening a wet fire.
[quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vicn1956[/bold] wrote: "Why on earth they bothered to buy the club." We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££ They are still in shock and confused- every word they say we take with a pinch of salt. To them lying seems as natural as breathing. All the media luvvies are quiet about recommending kean for the Spurs job- or has their agent/s not told them to?[/p][/quote]We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ £££££ If they bought the club, paid off the debt and gave the manager 20m to spend on players how are they making money, The clause in Jones` contract was not their doing and Samba refused to play.[/p][/quote]Boll*cks they couldn't wait to sell Jones a`clear asset for rovers future in the PL, money money money =venkys they already new before buying the club what players they could make a quick return profit from,and why would you release a player,players who have been a major asset in keeping rovers in the PL with yrs of pro,experience as top players for years ?Nelson who now has signed a new 2yr `contract with spurs PL an example, clearly it was to chop the wage structure at the club, yes venkys truly were planning for the future? IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP,,HA,HA, how any one who is a rovers fan can come on here and even attempt to absolve kean or venkys or try to even put a reoson for venkys business **** up and then down rovers fans from wanting to fight for their town club is beyond me.Venkys paid off their debt with the selling of BRFC ONLY CHANCE OF STAYING IN THE PL.The 20 million on players kean bought who couldn't even get in the first team and the rest who are desperate to leave the club after one season of loyalty,dont make me laugh,funny how venkys are stating once again that no one is leaving the club, yet many have the get out clause written in their contract to leave the club, which was by the way a contractual agreement with the owners VENKYS stamp of aproaval who bought them, if they really wanted to stop them from fleeing the club and fleeing is what they are going to do, venkys would not have allowed these players their get out clause in the contract in the first place .Venkys future for BRFC is to buy short term and sell for profit and fook BRFC football future at the top level.[/p][/quote]You do not answer the point about how they are making money, 1.The clause in jones contract was made b4 the club sale, 2. I raised a point about how they are making money and having read your long winded reply you have not answered the point which i raised. 3. You seem to think that releasing Nelson who had been a long term injury and spending 20m on new players makes a profit. 4. Which other players have a get out clause that would make a profit. Please dont make random statements which question my status as a BRFC fan just show everyone how a profit has been made with what has gone on. Also when the club was sold who made a profit.[/p][/quote]Talk to the hand,no point in enlightening a wet fire. alfa111
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1:52pm Fri 15 Jun 12

fickle fan says...

Wow a really useful post, so you cant describe how they are making money
Wow a really useful post, so you cant describe how they are making money fickle fan
  • Score: 0

1:56pm Fri 15 Jun 12

fickle fan says...

alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
vicn1956 wrote:
"Why on earth they bothered to buy the club." We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££





££££££££££





££££££££££





££££££££

They are still in shock and confused- every word they say we take with a pinch of salt. To them lying seems as natural as breathing.

All the media luvvies are quiet about recommending kean for the Spurs job- or has their agent/s not told them to?
We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ £££££
If they bought the club, paid off the debt and gave the manager 20m to spend on players how are they making money,
The clause in Jones` contract was not their doing and Samba refused to play.
Boll*cks they couldn't wait to sell Jones a`clear asset for rovers future in the PL, money money money =venkys they already new before buying the club what players they could make a quick return profit from,and why would you release a player,players who have been a major asset in keeping rovers in the PL with yrs of pro,experience as top players for years ?Nelson who now has signed a new 2yr `contract with spurs PL an example, clearly it was to chop the wage structure at the club, yes venkys truly were planning for the future? IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP,,HA,HA, how any one who is a rovers fan can come on here and even attempt to absolve kean or venkys or try to even put a reoson for venkys business **** up and then down rovers fans from wanting to fight for their town club is beyond me.Venkys paid off their debt with the selling of BRFC ONLY CHANCE OF STAYING IN THE PL.The 20 million on players kean bought who couldn't even get in the first team and the rest who are desperate to leave the club after one season of loyalty,dont make me laugh,funny how venkys are stating once again that no one is leaving the club, yet many have the get out clause written in their contract to leave the club, which was by the way a contractual agreement with the owners VENKYS stamp of aproaval who bought them, if they really wanted to stop them from fleeing the club and fleeing is what they are going to do, venkys would not have allowed these players their get out clause in the contract in the first place .Venkys future for BRFC is to buy short term and sell for profit and fook BRFC football future at the top level.
You do not answer the point about how they are making money,

1.The clause in jones contract was made b4 the club sale,
2. I raised a point about how they are making money and having read your long winded reply you have not answered the point which i raised.
3. You seem to think that releasing Nelson who had been a long term injury and spending 20m on new players makes a profit.
4. Which other players have a get out clause that would make a profit.
Please dont make random statements which question my status as a BRFC fan just show everyone how a profit has been made with what has gone on.

Also when the club was sold who made a profit.
Talk to the hand,no point in enlightening a wet fire.
Wow a really useful post, so you cant describe how they are making money
[quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vicn1956[/bold] wrote: "Why on earth they bothered to buy the club." We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££ They are still in shock and confused- every word they say we take with a pinch of salt. To them lying seems as natural as breathing. All the media luvvies are quiet about recommending kean for the Spurs job- or has their agent/s not told them to?[/p][/quote]We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ £££££ If they bought the club, paid off the debt and gave the manager 20m to spend on players how are they making money, The clause in Jones` contract was not their doing and Samba refused to play.[/p][/quote]Boll*cks they couldn't wait to sell Jones a`clear asset for rovers future in the PL, money money money =venkys they already new before buying the club what players they could make a quick return profit from,and why would you release a player,players who have been a major asset in keeping rovers in the PL with yrs of pro,experience as top players for years ?Nelson who now has signed a new 2yr `contract with spurs PL an example, clearly it was to chop the wage structure at the club, yes venkys truly were planning for the future? IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP,,HA,HA, how any one who is a rovers fan can come on here and even attempt to absolve kean or venkys or try to even put a reoson for venkys business **** up and then down rovers fans from wanting to fight for their town club is beyond me.Venkys paid off their debt with the selling of BRFC ONLY CHANCE OF STAYING IN THE PL.The 20 million on players kean bought who couldn't even get in the first team and the rest who are desperate to leave the club after one season of loyalty,dont make me laugh,funny how venkys are stating once again that no one is leaving the club, yet many have the get out clause written in their contract to leave the club, which was by the way a contractual agreement with the owners VENKYS stamp of aproaval who bought them, if they really wanted to stop them from fleeing the club and fleeing is what they are going to do, venkys would not have allowed these players their get out clause in the contract in the first place .Venkys future for BRFC is to buy short term and sell for profit and fook BRFC football future at the top level.[/p][/quote]You do not answer the point about how they are making money, 1.The clause in jones contract was made b4 the club sale, 2. I raised a point about how they are making money and having read your long winded reply you have not answered the point which i raised. 3. You seem to think that releasing Nelson who had been a long term injury and spending 20m on new players makes a profit. 4. Which other players have a get out clause that would make a profit. Please dont make random statements which question my status as a BRFC fan just show everyone how a profit has been made with what has gone on. Also when the club was sold who made a profit.[/p][/quote]Talk to the hand,no point in enlightening a wet fire.[/p][/quote]Wow a really useful post, so you cant describe how they are making money fickle fan
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2:06pm Fri 15 Jun 12

alfa111 says...

fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
vicn1956 wrote:
"Why on earth they bothered to buy the club." We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££






££££££££££






££££££££££






££££££££

They are still in shock and confused- every word they say we take with a pinch of salt. To them lying seems as natural as breathing.

All the media luvvies are quiet about recommending kean for the Spurs job- or has their agent/s not told them to?
We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ £££££
If they bought the club, paid off the debt and gave the manager 20m to spend on players how are they making money,
The clause in Jones` contract was not their doing and Samba refused to play.
Boll*cks they couldn't wait to sell Jones a`clear asset for rovers future in the PL, money money money =venkys they already new before buying the club what players they could make a quick return profit from,and why would you release a player,players who have been a major asset in keeping rovers in the PL with yrs of pro,experience as top players for years ?Nelson who now has signed a new 2yr `contract with spurs PL an example, clearly it was to chop the wage structure at the club, yes venkys truly were planning for the future? IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP,,HA,HA, how any one who is a rovers fan can come on here and even attempt to absolve kean or venkys or try to even put a reoson for venkys business **** up and then down rovers fans from wanting to fight for their town club is beyond me.Venkys paid off their debt with the selling of BRFC ONLY CHANCE OF STAYING IN THE PL.The 20 million on players kean bought who couldn't even get in the first team and the rest who are desperate to leave the club after one season of loyalty,dont make me laugh,funny how venkys are stating once again that no one is leaving the club, yet many have the get out clause written in their contract to leave the club, which was by the way a contractual agreement with the owners VENKYS stamp of aproaval who bought them, if they really wanted to stop them from fleeing the club and fleeing is what they are going to do, venkys would not have allowed these players their get out clause in the contract in the first place .Venkys future for BRFC is to buy short term and sell for profit and fook BRFC football future at the top level.
You do not answer the point about how they are making money,

1.The clause in jones contract was made b4 the club sale,
2. I raised a point about how they are making money and having read your long winded reply you have not answered the point which i raised.
3. You seem to think that releasing Nelson who had been a long term injury and spending 20m on new players makes a profit.
4. Which other players have a get out clause that would make a profit.
Please dont make random statements which question my status as a BRFC fan just show everyone how a profit has been made with what has gone on.

Also when the club was sold who made a profit.
Talk to the hand,no point in enlightening a wet fire.
Wow a really useful post, so you cant describe how they are making money
Go away and talk to the hand young lady your full of your self y and just don't listen.
[quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vicn1956[/bold] wrote: "Why on earth they bothered to buy the club." We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££ They are still in shock and confused- every word they say we take with a pinch of salt. To them lying seems as natural as breathing. All the media luvvies are quiet about recommending kean for the Spurs job- or has their agent/s not told them to?[/p][/quote]We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ £££££ If they bought the club, paid off the debt and gave the manager 20m to spend on players how are they making money, The clause in Jones` contract was not their doing and Samba refused to play.[/p][/quote]Boll*cks they couldn't wait to sell Jones a`clear asset for rovers future in the PL, money money money =venkys they already new before buying the club what players they could make a quick return profit from,and why would you release a player,players who have been a major asset in keeping rovers in the PL with yrs of pro,experience as top players for years ?Nelson who now has signed a new 2yr `contract with spurs PL an example, clearly it was to chop the wage structure at the club, yes venkys truly were planning for the future? IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP,,HA,HA, how any one who is a rovers fan can come on here and even attempt to absolve kean or venkys or try to even put a reoson for venkys business **** up and then down rovers fans from wanting to fight for their town club is beyond me.Venkys paid off their debt with the selling of BRFC ONLY CHANCE OF STAYING IN THE PL.The 20 million on players kean bought who couldn't even get in the first team and the rest who are desperate to leave the club after one season of loyalty,dont make me laugh,funny how venkys are stating once again that no one is leaving the club, yet many have the get out clause written in their contract to leave the club, which was by the way a contractual agreement with the owners VENKYS stamp of aproaval who bought them, if they really wanted to stop them from fleeing the club and fleeing is what they are going to do, venkys would not have allowed these players their get out clause in the contract in the first place .Venkys future for BRFC is to buy short term and sell for profit and fook BRFC football future at the top level.[/p][/quote]You do not answer the point about how they are making money, 1.The clause in jones contract was made b4 the club sale, 2. I raised a point about how they are making money and having read your long winded reply you have not answered the point which i raised. 3. You seem to think that releasing Nelson who had been a long term injury and spending 20m on new players makes a profit. 4. Which other players have a get out clause that would make a profit. Please dont make random statements which question my status as a BRFC fan just show everyone how a profit has been made with what has gone on. Also when the club was sold who made a profit.[/p][/quote]Talk to the hand,no point in enlightening a wet fire.[/p][/quote]Wow a really useful post, so you cant describe how they are making money[/p][/quote]Go away and talk to the hand young lady your full of your self y and just don't listen. alfa111
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2:32pm Fri 15 Jun 12

fickle fan says...

alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
vicn1956 wrote:
"Why on earth they bothered to buy the club." We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££







££££££££££







££££££££££







££££££££

They are still in shock and confused- every word they say we take with a pinch of salt. To them lying seems as natural as breathing.

All the media luvvies are quiet about recommending kean for the Spurs job- or has their agent/s not told them to?
We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ £££££
If they bought the club, paid off the debt and gave the manager 20m to spend on players how are they making money,
The clause in Jones` contract was not their doing and Samba refused to play.
Boll*cks they couldn't wait to sell Jones a`clear asset for rovers future in the PL, money money money =venkys they already new before buying the club what players they could make a quick return profit from,and why would you release a player,players who have been a major asset in keeping rovers in the PL with yrs of pro,experience as top players for years ?Nelson who now has signed a new 2yr `contract with spurs PL an example, clearly it was to chop the wage structure at the club, yes venkys truly were planning for the future? IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP,,HA,HA, how any one who is a rovers fan can come on here and even attempt to absolve kean or venkys or try to even put a reoson for venkys business **** up and then down rovers fans from wanting to fight for their town club is beyond me.Venkys paid off their debt with the selling of BRFC ONLY CHANCE OF STAYING IN THE PL.The 20 million on players kean bought who couldn't even get in the first team and the rest who are desperate to leave the club after one season of loyalty,dont make me laugh,funny how venkys are stating once again that no one is leaving the club, yet many have the get out clause written in their contract to leave the club, which was by the way a contractual agreement with the owners VENKYS stamp of aproaval who bought them, if they really wanted to stop them from fleeing the club and fleeing is what they are going to do, venkys would not have allowed these players their get out clause in the contract in the first place .Venkys future for BRFC is to buy short term and sell for profit and fook BRFC football future at the top level.
You do not answer the point about how they are making money,

1.The clause in jones contract was made b4 the club sale,
2. I raised a point about how they are making money and having read your long winded reply you have not answered the point which i raised.
3. You seem to think that releasing Nelson who had been a long term injury and spending 20m on new players makes a profit.
4. Which other players have a get out clause that would make a profit.
Please dont make random statements which question my status as a BRFC fan just show everyone how a profit has been made with what has gone on.

Also when the club was sold who made a profit.
Talk to the hand,no point in enlightening a wet fire.
Wow a really useful post, so you cant describe how they are making money
Go away and talk to the hand young lady your full of your self y and just don't listen.
answer the question,
HOW ARE THEY MAKING ANY MONEY ?

Simples !
[quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vicn1956[/bold] wrote: "Why on earth they bothered to buy the club." We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££ They are still in shock and confused- every word they say we take with a pinch of salt. To them lying seems as natural as breathing. All the media luvvies are quiet about recommending kean for the Spurs job- or has their agent/s not told them to?[/p][/quote]We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ £££££ If they bought the club, paid off the debt and gave the manager 20m to spend on players how are they making money, The clause in Jones` contract was not their doing and Samba refused to play.[/p][/quote]Boll*cks they couldn't wait to sell Jones a`clear asset for rovers future in the PL, money money money =venkys they already new before buying the club what players they could make a quick return profit from,and why would you release a player,players who have been a major asset in keeping rovers in the PL with yrs of pro,experience as top players for years ?Nelson who now has signed a new 2yr `contract with spurs PL an example, clearly it was to chop the wage structure at the club, yes venkys truly were planning for the future? IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP,,HA,HA, how any one who is a rovers fan can come on here and even attempt to absolve kean or venkys or try to even put a reoson for venkys business **** up and then down rovers fans from wanting to fight for their town club is beyond me.Venkys paid off their debt with the selling of BRFC ONLY CHANCE OF STAYING IN THE PL.The 20 million on players kean bought who couldn't even get in the first team and the rest who are desperate to leave the club after one season of loyalty,dont make me laugh,funny how venkys are stating once again that no one is leaving the club, yet many have the get out clause written in their contract to leave the club, which was by the way a contractual agreement with the owners VENKYS stamp of aproaval who bought them, if they really wanted to stop them from fleeing the club and fleeing is what they are going to do, venkys would not have allowed these players their get out clause in the contract in the first place .Venkys future for BRFC is to buy short term and sell for profit and fook BRFC football future at the top level.[/p][/quote]You do not answer the point about how they are making money, 1.The clause in jones contract was made b4 the club sale, 2. I raised a point about how they are making money and having read your long winded reply you have not answered the point which i raised. 3. You seem to think that releasing Nelson who had been a long term injury and spending 20m on new players makes a profit. 4. Which other players have a get out clause that would make a profit. Please dont make random statements which question my status as a BRFC fan just show everyone how a profit has been made with what has gone on. Also when the club was sold who made a profit.[/p][/quote]Talk to the hand,no point in enlightening a wet fire.[/p][/quote]Wow a really useful post, so you cant describe how they are making money[/p][/quote]Go away and talk to the hand young lady your full of your self y and just don't listen.[/p][/quote]answer the question, HOW ARE THEY MAKING ANY MONEY ? Simples ! fickle fan
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2:44pm Fri 15 Jun 12

alfa111 says...

fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
vicn1956 wrote:
"Why on earth they bothered to buy the club." We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££








££££££££££








££££££££££








££££££££

They are still in shock and confused- every word they say we take with a pinch of salt. To them lying seems as natural as breathing.

All the media luvvies are quiet about recommending kean for the Spurs job- or has their agent/s not told them to?
We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ £££££
If they bought the club, paid off the debt and gave the manager 20m to spend on players how are they making money,
The clause in Jones` contract was not their doing and Samba refused to play.
Boll*cks they couldn't wait to sell Jones a`clear asset for rovers future in the PL, money money money =venkys they already new before buying the club what players they could make a quick return profit from,and why would you release a player,players who have been a major asset in keeping rovers in the PL with yrs of pro,experience as top players for years ?Nelson who now has signed a new 2yr `contract with spurs PL an example, clearly it was to chop the wage structure at the club, yes venkys truly were planning for the future? IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP,,HA,HA, how any one who is a rovers fan can come on here and even attempt to absolve kean or venkys or try to even put a reoson for venkys business **** up and then down rovers fans from wanting to fight for their town club is beyond me.Venkys paid off their debt with the selling of BRFC ONLY CHANCE OF STAYING IN THE PL.The 20 million on players kean bought who couldn't even get in the first team and the rest who are desperate to leave the club after one season of loyalty,dont make me laugh,funny how venkys are stating once again that no one is leaving the club, yet many have the get out clause written in their contract to leave the club, which was by the way a contractual agreement with the owners VENKYS stamp of aproaval who bought them, if they really wanted to stop them from fleeing the club and fleeing is what they are going to do, venkys would not have allowed these players their get out clause in the contract in the first place .Venkys future for BRFC is to buy short term and sell for profit and fook BRFC football future at the top level.
You do not answer the point about how they are making money,

1.The clause in jones contract was made b4 the club sale,
2. I raised a point about how they are making money and having read your long winded reply you have not answered the point which i raised.
3. You seem to think that releasing Nelson who had been a long term injury and spending 20m on new players makes a profit.
4. Which other players have a get out clause that would make a profit.
Please dont make random statements which question my status as a BRFC fan just show everyone how a profit has been made with what has gone on.

Also when the club was sold who made a profit.
Talk to the hand,no point in enlightening a wet fire.
Wow a really useful post, so you cant describe how they are making money
Go away and talk to the hand young lady your full of your self y and just don't listen.
answer the question,
HOW ARE THEY MAKING ANY MONEY ?

Simples !
You must read my comments with the greatest care instead of trying to trip up any thing that you find wrong SIMPLES and dont get so irritated please young lady
[quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vicn1956[/bold] wrote: "Why on earth they bothered to buy the club." We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££ They are still in shock and confused- every word they say we take with a pinch of salt. To them lying seems as natural as breathing. All the media luvvies are quiet about recommending kean for the Spurs job- or has their agent/s not told them to?[/p][/quote]We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ £££££ If they bought the club, paid off the debt and gave the manager 20m to spend on players how are they making money, The clause in Jones` contract was not their doing and Samba refused to play.[/p][/quote]Boll*cks they couldn't wait to sell Jones a`clear asset for rovers future in the PL, money money money =venkys they already new before buying the club what players they could make a quick return profit from,and why would you release a player,players who have been a major asset in keeping rovers in the PL with yrs of pro,experience as top players for years ?Nelson who now has signed a new 2yr `contract with spurs PL an example, clearly it was to chop the wage structure at the club, yes venkys truly were planning for the future? IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP,,HA,HA, how any one who is a rovers fan can come on here and even attempt to absolve kean or venkys or try to even put a reoson for venkys business **** up and then down rovers fans from wanting to fight for their town club is beyond me.Venkys paid off their debt with the selling of BRFC ONLY CHANCE OF STAYING IN THE PL.The 20 million on players kean bought who couldn't even get in the first team and the rest who are desperate to leave the club after one season of loyalty,dont make me laugh,funny how venkys are stating once again that no one is leaving the club, yet many have the get out clause written in their contract to leave the club, which was by the way a contractual agreement with the owners VENKYS stamp of aproaval who bought them, if they really wanted to stop them from fleeing the club and fleeing is what they are going to do, venkys would not have allowed these players their get out clause in the contract in the first place .Venkys future for BRFC is to buy short term and sell for profit and fook BRFC football future at the top level.[/p][/quote]You do not answer the point about how they are making money, 1.The clause in jones contract was made b4 the club sale, 2. I raised a point about how they are making money and having read your long winded reply you have not answered the point which i raised. 3. You seem to think that releasing Nelson who had been a long term injury and spending 20m on new players makes a profit. 4. Which other players have a get out clause that would make a profit. Please dont make random statements which question my status as a BRFC fan just show everyone how a profit has been made with what has gone on. Also when the club was sold who made a profit.[/p][/quote]Talk to the hand,no point in enlightening a wet fire.[/p][/quote]Wow a really useful post, so you cant describe how they are making money[/p][/quote]Go away and talk to the hand young lady your full of your self y and just don't listen.[/p][/quote]answer the question, HOW ARE THEY MAKING ANY MONEY ? Simples ![/p][/quote]You must read my comments with the greatest care instead of trying to trip up any thing that you find wrong SIMPLES and dont get so irritated please young lady alfa111
  • Score: 0

3:55pm Fri 15 Jun 12

fickle fan says...

alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
vicn1956 wrote:
"Why on earth they bothered to buy the club." We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££









££££££££££









££££££££££









££££££££

They are still in shock and confused- every word they say we take with a pinch of salt. To them lying seems as natural as breathing.

All the media luvvies are quiet about recommending kean for the Spurs job- or has their agent/s not told them to?
We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ £££££
If they bought the club, paid off the debt and gave the manager 20m to spend on players how are they making money,
The clause in Jones` contract was not their doing and Samba refused to play.
Boll*cks they couldn't wait to sell Jones a`clear asset for rovers future in the PL, money money money =venkys they already new before buying the club what players they could make a quick return profit from,and why would you release a player,players who have been a major asset in keeping rovers in the PL with yrs of pro,experience as top players for years ?Nelson who now has signed a new 2yr `contract with spurs PL an example, clearly it was to chop the wage structure at the club, yes venkys truly were planning for the future? IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP,,HA,HA, how any one who is a rovers fan can come on here and even attempt to absolve kean or venkys or try to even put a reoson for venkys business **** up and then down rovers fans from wanting to fight for their town club is beyond me.Venkys paid off their debt with the selling of BRFC ONLY CHANCE OF STAYING IN THE PL.The 20 million on players kean bought who couldn't even get in the first team and the rest who are desperate to leave the club after one season of loyalty,dont make me laugh,funny how venkys are stating once again that no one is leaving the club, yet many have the get out clause written in their contract to leave the club, which was by the way a contractual agreement with the owners VENKYS stamp of aproaval who bought them, if they really wanted to stop them from fleeing the club and fleeing is what they are going to do, venkys would not have allowed these players their get out clause in the contract in the first place .Venkys future for BRFC is to buy short term and sell for profit and fook BRFC football future at the top level.
You do not answer the point about how they are making money,

1.The clause in jones contract was made b4 the club sale,
2. I raised a point about how they are making money and having read your long winded reply you have not answered the point which i raised.
3. You seem to think that releasing Nelson who had been a long term injury and spending 20m on new players makes a profit.
4. Which other players have a get out clause that would make a profit.
Please dont make random statements which question my status as a BRFC fan just show everyone how a profit has been made with what has gone on.

Also when the club was sold who made a profit.
Talk to the hand,no point in enlightening a wet fire.
Wow a really useful post, so you cant describe how they are making money
Go away and talk to the hand young lady your full of your self y and just don't listen.
answer the question,
HOW ARE THEY MAKING ANY MONEY ?

Simples !
You must read my comments with the greatest care instead of trying to trip up any thing that you find wrong SIMPLES and dont get so irritated please young lady
Again simple question

how are they making money
[quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vicn1956[/bold] wrote: "Why on earth they bothered to buy the club." We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££ They are still in shock and confused- every word they say we take with a pinch of salt. To them lying seems as natural as breathing. All the media luvvies are quiet about recommending kean for the Spurs job- or has their agent/s not told them to?[/p][/quote]We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ £££££ If they bought the club, paid off the debt and gave the manager 20m to spend on players how are they making money, The clause in Jones` contract was not their doing and Samba refused to play.[/p][/quote]Boll*cks they couldn't wait to sell Jones a`clear asset for rovers future in the PL, money money money =venkys they already new before buying the club what players they could make a quick return profit from,and why would you release a player,players who have been a major asset in keeping rovers in the PL with yrs of pro,experience as top players for years ?Nelson who now has signed a new 2yr `contract with spurs PL an example, clearly it was to chop the wage structure at the club, yes venkys truly were planning for the future? IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP,,HA,HA, how any one who is a rovers fan can come on here and even attempt to absolve kean or venkys or try to even put a reoson for venkys business **** up and then down rovers fans from wanting to fight for their town club is beyond me.Venkys paid off their debt with the selling of BRFC ONLY CHANCE OF STAYING IN THE PL.The 20 million on players kean bought who couldn't even get in the first team and the rest who are desperate to leave the club after one season of loyalty,dont make me laugh,funny how venkys are stating once again that no one is leaving the club, yet many have the get out clause written in their contract to leave the club, which was by the way a contractual agreement with the owners VENKYS stamp of aproaval who bought them, if they really wanted to stop them from fleeing the club and fleeing is what they are going to do, venkys would not have allowed these players their get out clause in the contract in the first place .Venkys future for BRFC is to buy short term and sell for profit and fook BRFC football future at the top level.[/p][/quote]You do not answer the point about how they are making money, 1.The clause in jones contract was made b4 the club sale, 2. I raised a point about how they are making money and having read your long winded reply you have not answered the point which i raised. 3. You seem to think that releasing Nelson who had been a long term injury and spending 20m on new players makes a profit. 4. Which other players have a get out clause that would make a profit. Please dont make random statements which question my status as a BRFC fan just show everyone how a profit has been made with what has gone on. Also when the club was sold who made a profit.[/p][/quote]Talk to the hand,no point in enlightening a wet fire.[/p][/quote]Wow a really useful post, so you cant describe how they are making money[/p][/quote]Go away and talk to the hand young lady your full of your self y and just don't listen.[/p][/quote]answer the question, HOW ARE THEY MAKING ANY MONEY ? Simples ![/p][/quote]You must read my comments with the greatest care instead of trying to trip up any thing that you find wrong SIMPLES and dont get so irritated please young lady[/p][/quote]Again simple question how are they making money fickle fan
  • Score: 0

4:02pm Fri 15 Jun 12

alfa111 says...

fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
vicn1956 wrote:
"Why on earth they bothered to buy the club." We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££










££££££££££










££££££££££










££££££££

They are still in shock and confused- every word they say we take with a pinch of salt. To them lying seems as natural as breathing.

All the media luvvies are quiet about recommending kean for the Spurs job- or has their agent/s not told them to?
We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ £££££
If they bought the club, paid off the debt and gave the manager 20m to spend on players how are they making money,
The clause in Jones` contract was not their doing and Samba refused to play.
Boll*cks they couldn't wait to sell Jones a`clear asset for rovers future in the PL, money money money =venkys they already new before buying the club what players they could make a quick return profit from,and why would you release a player,players who have been a major asset in keeping rovers in the PL with yrs of pro,experience as top players for years ?Nelson who now has signed a new 2yr `contract with spurs PL an example, clearly it was to chop the wage structure at the club, yes venkys truly were planning for the future? IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP,,HA,HA, how any one who is a rovers fan can come on here and even attempt to absolve kean or venkys or try to even put a reoson for venkys business **** up and then down rovers fans from wanting to fight for their town club is beyond me.Venkys paid off their debt with the selling of BRFC ONLY CHANCE OF STAYING IN THE PL.The 20 million on players kean bought who couldn't even get in the first team and the rest who are desperate to leave the club after one season of loyalty,dont make me laugh,funny how venkys are stating once again that no one is leaving the club, yet many have the get out clause written in their contract to leave the club, which was by the way a contractual agreement with the owners VENKYS stamp of aproaval who bought them, if they really wanted to stop them from fleeing the club and fleeing is what they are going to do, venkys would not have allowed these players their get out clause in the contract in the first place .Venkys future for BRFC is to buy short term and sell for profit and fook BRFC football future at the top level.
You do not answer the point about how they are making money,

1.The clause in jones contract was made b4 the club sale,
2. I raised a point about how they are making money and having read your long winded reply you have not answered the point which i raised.
3. You seem to think that releasing Nelson who had been a long term injury and spending 20m on new players makes a profit.
4. Which other players have a get out clause that would make a profit.
Please dont make random statements which question my status as a BRFC fan just show everyone how a profit has been made with what has gone on.

Also when the club was sold who made a profit.
Talk to the hand,no point in enlightening a wet fire.
Wow a really useful post, so you cant describe how they are making money
Go away and talk to the hand young lady your full of your self y and just don't listen.
answer the question,
HOW ARE THEY MAKING ANY MONEY ?

Simples !
You must read my comments with the greatest care instead of trying to trip up any thing that you find wrong SIMPLES and dont get so irritated please young lady
Again simple question

how are they making money
Selling players, chopping the wage bill, sacking CEO, staff, like did you not Know that?
[quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vicn1956[/bold] wrote: "Why on earth they bothered to buy the club." We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££ They are still in shock and confused- every word they say we take with a pinch of salt. To them lying seems as natural as breathing. All the media luvvies are quiet about recommending kean for the Spurs job- or has their agent/s not told them to?[/p][/quote]We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ £££££ If they bought the club, paid off the debt and gave the manager 20m to spend on players how are they making money, The clause in Jones` contract was not their doing and Samba refused to play.[/p][/quote]Boll*cks they couldn't wait to sell Jones a`clear asset for rovers future in the PL, money money money =venkys they already new before buying the club what players they could make a quick return profit from,and why would you release a player,players who have been a major asset in keeping rovers in the PL with yrs of pro,experience as top players for years ?Nelson who now has signed a new 2yr `contract with spurs PL an example, clearly it was to chop the wage structure at the club, yes venkys truly were planning for the future? IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP,,HA,HA, how any one who is a rovers fan can come on here and even attempt to absolve kean or venkys or try to even put a reoson for venkys business **** up and then down rovers fans from wanting to fight for their town club is beyond me.Venkys paid off their debt with the selling of BRFC ONLY CHANCE OF STAYING IN THE PL.The 20 million on players kean bought who couldn't even get in the first team and the rest who are desperate to leave the club after one season of loyalty,dont make me laugh,funny how venkys are stating once again that no one is leaving the club, yet many have the get out clause written in their contract to leave the club, which was by the way a contractual agreement with the owners VENKYS stamp of aproaval who bought them, if they really wanted to stop them from fleeing the club and fleeing is what they are going to do, venkys would not have allowed these players their get out clause in the contract in the first place .Venkys future for BRFC is to buy short term and sell for profit and fook BRFC football future at the top level.[/p][/quote]You do not answer the point about how they are making money, 1.The clause in jones contract was made b4 the club sale, 2. I raised a point about how they are making money and having read your long winded reply you have not answered the point which i raised. 3. You seem to think that releasing Nelson who had been a long term injury and spending 20m on new players makes a profit. 4. Which other players have a get out clause that would make a profit. Please dont make random statements which question my status as a BRFC fan just show everyone how a profit has been made with what has gone on. Also when the club was sold who made a profit.[/p][/quote]Talk to the hand,no point in enlightening a wet fire.[/p][/quote]Wow a really useful post, so you cant describe how they are making money[/p][/quote]Go away and talk to the hand young lady your full of your self y and just don't listen.[/p][/quote]answer the question, HOW ARE THEY MAKING ANY MONEY ? Simples ![/p][/quote]You must read my comments with the greatest care instead of trying to trip up any thing that you find wrong SIMPLES and dont get so irritated please young lady[/p][/quote]Again simple question how are they making money[/p][/quote]Selling players, chopping the wage bill, sacking CEO, staff, like did you not Know that? alfa111
  • Score: 0

4:13pm Fri 15 Jun 12

fickle fan says...

alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
vicn1956 wrote:
"Why on earth they bothered to buy the club." We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££











££££££££££











££££££££££











££££££££

They are still in shock and confused- every word they say we take with a pinch of salt. To them lying seems as natural as breathing.

All the media luvvies are quiet about recommending kean for the Spurs job- or has their agent/s not told them to?
We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ £££££
If they bought the club, paid off the debt and gave the manager 20m to spend on players how are they making money,
The clause in Jones` contract was not their doing and Samba refused to play.
Boll*cks they couldn't wait to sell Jones a`clear asset for rovers future in the PL, money money money =venkys they already new before buying the club what players they could make a quick return profit from,and why would you release a player,players who have been a major asset in keeping rovers in the PL with yrs of pro,experience as top players for years ?Nelson who now has signed a new 2yr `contract with spurs PL an example, clearly it was to chop the wage structure at the club, yes venkys truly were planning for the future? IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP,,HA,HA, how any one who is a rovers fan can come on here and even attempt to absolve kean or venkys or try to even put a reoson for venkys business **** up and then down rovers fans from wanting to fight for their town club is beyond me.Venkys paid off their debt with the selling of BRFC ONLY CHANCE OF STAYING IN THE PL.The 20 million on players kean bought who couldn't even get in the first team and the rest who are desperate to leave the club after one season of loyalty,dont make me laugh,funny how venkys are stating once again that no one is leaving the club, yet many have the get out clause written in their contract to leave the club, which was by the way a contractual agreement with the owners VENKYS stamp of aproaval who bought them, if they really wanted to stop them from fleeing the club and fleeing is what they are going to do, venkys would not have allowed these players their get out clause in the contract in the first place .Venkys future for BRFC is to buy short term and sell for profit and fook BRFC football future at the top level.
You do not answer the point about how they are making money,

1.The clause in jones contract was made b4 the club sale,
2. I raised a point about how they are making money and having read your long winded reply you have not answered the point which i raised.
3. You seem to think that releasing Nelson who had been a long term injury and spending 20m on new players makes a profit.
4. Which other players have a get out clause that would make a profit.
Please dont make random statements which question my status as a BRFC fan just show everyone how a profit has been made with what has gone on.

Also when the club was sold who made a profit.
Talk to the hand,no point in enlightening a wet fire.
Wow a really useful post, so you cant describe how they are making money
Go away and talk to the hand young lady your full of your self y and just don't listen.
answer the question,
HOW ARE THEY MAKING ANY MONEY ?

Simples !
You must read my comments with the greatest care instead of trying to trip up any thing that you find wrong SIMPLES and dont get so irritated please young lady
Again simple question

how are they making money
Selling players, chopping the wage bill, sacking CEO, staff, like did you not Know that?
Wow that was hard work.
Now how does that cover the money they have spent and make a profit,
then look who has taken money out of the club
[quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vicn1956[/bold] wrote: "Why on earth they bothered to buy the club." We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££ They are still in shock and confused- every word they say we take with a pinch of salt. To them lying seems as natural as breathing. All the media luvvies are quiet about recommending kean for the Spurs job- or has their agent/s not told them to?[/p][/quote]We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ £££££ If they bought the club, paid off the debt and gave the manager 20m to spend on players how are they making money, The clause in Jones` contract was not their doing and Samba refused to play.[/p][/quote]Boll*cks they couldn't wait to sell Jones a`clear asset for rovers future in the PL, money money money =venkys they already new before buying the club what players they could make a quick return profit from,and why would you release a player,players who have been a major asset in keeping rovers in the PL with yrs of pro,experience as top players for years ?Nelson who now has signed a new 2yr `contract with spurs PL an example, clearly it was to chop the wage structure at the club, yes venkys truly were planning for the future? IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP,,HA,HA, how any one who is a rovers fan can come on here and even attempt to absolve kean or venkys or try to even put a reoson for venkys business **** up and then down rovers fans from wanting to fight for their town club is beyond me.Venkys paid off their debt with the selling of BRFC ONLY CHANCE OF STAYING IN THE PL.The 20 million on players kean bought who couldn't even get in the first team and the rest who are desperate to leave the club after one season of loyalty,dont make me laugh,funny how venkys are stating once again that no one is leaving the club, yet many have the get out clause written in their contract to leave the club, which was by the way a contractual agreement with the owners VENKYS stamp of aproaval who bought them, if they really wanted to stop them from fleeing the club and fleeing is what they are going to do, venkys would not have allowed these players their get out clause in the contract in the first place .Venkys future for BRFC is to buy short term and sell for profit and fook BRFC football future at the top level.[/p][/quote]You do not answer the point about how they are making money, 1.The clause in jones contract was made b4 the club sale, 2. I raised a point about how they are making money and having read your long winded reply you have not answered the point which i raised. 3. You seem to think that releasing Nelson who had been a long term injury and spending 20m on new players makes a profit. 4. Which other players have a get out clause that would make a profit. Please dont make random statements which question my status as a BRFC fan just show everyone how a profit has been made with what has gone on. Also when the club was sold who made a profit.[/p][/quote]Talk to the hand,no point in enlightening a wet fire.[/p][/quote]Wow a really useful post, so you cant describe how they are making money[/p][/quote]Go away and talk to the hand young lady your full of your self y and just don't listen.[/p][/quote]answer the question, HOW ARE THEY MAKING ANY MONEY ? Simples ![/p][/quote]You must read my comments with the greatest care instead of trying to trip up any thing that you find wrong SIMPLES and dont get so irritated please young lady[/p][/quote]Again simple question how are they making money[/p][/quote]Selling players, chopping the wage bill, sacking CEO, staff, like did you not Know that?[/p][/quote]Wow that was hard work. Now how does that cover the money they have spent and make a profit, then look who has taken money out of the club fickle fan
  • Score: 0

4:30pm Fri 15 Jun 12

alfa111 says...

fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
vicn1956 wrote:
"Why on earth they bothered to buy the club." We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££












££££££££££












££££££££££












££££££££

They are still in shock and confused- every word they say we take with a pinch of salt. To them lying seems as natural as breathing.

All the media luvvies are quiet about recommending kean for the Spurs job- or has their agent/s not told them to?
We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ £££££
If they bought the club, paid off the debt and gave the manager 20m to spend on players how are they making money,
The clause in Jones` contract was not their doing and Samba refused to play.
Boll*cks they couldn't wait to sell Jones a`clear asset for rovers future in the PL, money money money =venkys they already new before buying the club what players they could make a quick return profit from,and why would you release a player,players who have been a major asset in keeping rovers in the PL with yrs of pro,experience as top players for years ?Nelson who now has signed a new 2yr `contract with spurs PL an example, clearly it was to chop the wage structure at the club, yes venkys truly were planning for the future? IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP,,HA,HA, how any one who is a rovers fan can come on here and even attempt to absolve kean or venkys or try to even put a reoson for venkys business **** up and then down rovers fans from wanting to fight for their town club is beyond me.Venkys paid off their debt with the selling of BRFC ONLY CHANCE OF STAYING IN THE PL.The 20 million on players kean bought who couldn't even get in the first team and the rest who are desperate to leave the club after one season of loyalty,dont make me laugh,funny how venkys are stating once again that no one is leaving the club, yet many have the get out clause written in their contract to leave the club, which was by the way a contractual agreement with the owners VENKYS stamp of aproaval who bought them, if they really wanted to stop them from fleeing the club and fleeing is what they are going to do, venkys would not have allowed these players their get out clause in the contract in the first place .Venkys future for BRFC is to buy short term and sell for profit and fook BRFC football future at the top level.
You do not answer the point about how they are making money,

1.The clause in jones contract was made b4 the club sale,
2. I raised a point about how they are making money and having read your long winded reply you have not answered the point which i raised.
3. You seem to think that releasing Nelson who had been a long term injury and spending 20m on new players makes a profit.
4. Which other players have a get out clause that would make a profit.
Please dont make random statements which question my status as a BRFC fan just show everyone how a profit has been made with what has gone on.

Also when the club was sold who made a profit.
Talk to the hand,no point in enlightening a wet fire.
Wow a really useful post, so you cant describe how they are making money
Go away and talk to the hand young lady your full of your self y and just don't listen.
answer the question,
HOW ARE THEY MAKING ANY MONEY ?

Simples !
You must read my comments with the greatest care instead of trying to trip up any thing that you find wrong SIMPLES and dont get so irritated please young lady
Again simple question

how are they making money
Selling players, chopping the wage bill, sacking CEO, staff, like did you not Know that?
Wow that was hard work.
Now how does that cover the money they have spent and make a profit,
then look who has taken money out of the club
All questions can be answered by actually reading my comments earlier. and You definitely need to put your thinking cap on dear your irrational and not compos mentis More threats coming .TALK TO THE HAND Ha,Ha,Ha.
[quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vicn1956[/bold] wrote: "Why on earth they bothered to buy the club." We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££ They are still in shock and confused- every word they say we take with a pinch of salt. To them lying seems as natural as breathing. All the media luvvies are quiet about recommending kean for the Spurs job- or has their agent/s not told them to?[/p][/quote]We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ £££££ If they bought the club, paid off the debt and gave the manager 20m to spend on players how are they making money, The clause in Jones` contract was not their doing and Samba refused to play.[/p][/quote]Boll*cks they couldn't wait to sell Jones a`clear asset for rovers future in the PL, money money money =venkys they already new before buying the club what players they could make a quick return profit from,and why would you release a player,players who have been a major asset in keeping rovers in the PL with yrs of pro,experience as top players for years ?Nelson who now has signed a new 2yr `contract with spurs PL an example, clearly it was to chop the wage structure at the club, yes venkys truly were planning for the future? IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP,,HA,HA, how any one who is a rovers fan can come on here and even attempt to absolve kean or venkys or try to even put a reoson for venkys business **** up and then down rovers fans from wanting to fight for their town club is beyond me.Venkys paid off their debt with the selling of BRFC ONLY CHANCE OF STAYING IN THE PL.The 20 million on players kean bought who couldn't even get in the first team and the rest who are desperate to leave the club after one season of loyalty,dont make me laugh,funny how venkys are stating once again that no one is leaving the club, yet many have the get out clause written in their contract to leave the club, which was by the way a contractual agreement with the owners VENKYS stamp of aproaval who bought them, if they really wanted to stop them from fleeing the club and fleeing is what they are going to do, venkys would not have allowed these players their get out clause in the contract in the first place .Venkys future for BRFC is to buy short term and sell for profit and fook BRFC football future at the top level.[/p][/quote]You do not answer the point about how they are making money, 1.The clause in jones contract was made b4 the club sale, 2. I raised a point about how they are making money and having read your long winded reply you have not answered the point which i raised. 3. You seem to think that releasing Nelson who had been a long term injury and spending 20m on new players makes a profit. 4. Which other players have a get out clause that would make a profit. Please dont make random statements which question my status as a BRFC fan just show everyone how a profit has been made with what has gone on. Also when the club was sold who made a profit.[/p][/quote]Talk to the hand,no point in enlightening a wet fire.[/p][/quote]Wow a really useful post, so you cant describe how they are making money[/p][/quote]Go away and talk to the hand young lady your full of your self y and just don't listen.[/p][/quote]answer the question, HOW ARE THEY MAKING ANY MONEY ? Simples ![/p][/quote]You must read my comments with the greatest care instead of trying to trip up any thing that you find wrong SIMPLES and dont get so irritated please young lady[/p][/quote]Again simple question how are they making money[/p][/quote]Selling players, chopping the wage bill, sacking CEO, staff, like did you not Know that?[/p][/quote]Wow that was hard work. Now how does that cover the money they have spent and make a profit, then look who has taken money out of the club[/p][/quote]All questions can be answered by actually reading my comments earlier. and You definitely need to put your thinking cap on dear your irrational and not compos mentis More threats coming .TALK TO THE HAND Ha,Ha,Ha. alfa111
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4:42pm Fri 15 Jun 12

fickle fan says...

alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
vicn1956 wrote:
"Why on earth they bothered to buy the club." We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££













££££££££££













££££££££££













££££££££

They are still in shock and confused- every word they say we take with a pinch of salt. To them lying seems as natural as breathing.

All the media luvvies are quiet about recommending kean for the Spurs job- or has their agent/s not told them to?
We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ £££££
If they bought the club, paid off the debt and gave the manager 20m to spend on players how are they making money,
The clause in Jones` contract was not their doing and Samba refused to play.
Boll*cks they couldn't wait to sell Jones a`clear asset for rovers future in the PL, money money money =venkys they already new before buying the club what players they could make a quick return profit from,and why would you release a player,players who have been a major asset in keeping rovers in the PL with yrs of pro,experience as top players for years ?Nelson who now has signed a new 2yr `contract with spurs PL an example, clearly it was to chop the wage structure at the club, yes venkys truly were planning for the future? IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP,,HA,HA, how any one who is a rovers fan can come on here and even attempt to absolve kean or venkys or try to even put a reoson for venkys business **** up and then down rovers fans from wanting to fight for their town club is beyond me.Venkys paid off their debt with the selling of BRFC ONLY CHANCE OF STAYING IN THE PL.The 20 million on players kean bought who couldn't even get in the first team and the rest who are desperate to leave the club after one season of loyalty,dont make me laugh,funny how venkys are stating once again that no one is leaving the club, yet many have the get out clause written in their contract to leave the club, which was by the way a contractual agreement with the owners VENKYS stamp of aproaval who bought them, if they really wanted to stop them from fleeing the club and fleeing is what they are going to do, venkys would not have allowed these players their get out clause in the contract in the first place .Venkys future for BRFC is to buy short term and sell for profit and fook BRFC football future at the top level.
You do not answer the point about how they are making money,

1.The clause in jones contract was made b4 the club sale,
2. I raised a point about how they are making money and having read your long winded reply you have not answered the point which i raised.
3. You seem to think that releasing Nelson who had been a long term injury and spending 20m on new players makes a profit.
4. Which other players have a get out clause that would make a profit.
Please dont make random statements which question my status as a BRFC fan just show everyone how a profit has been made with what has gone on.

Also when the club was sold who made a profit.
Talk to the hand,no point in enlightening a wet fire.
Wow a really useful post, so you cant describe how they are making money
Go away and talk to the hand young lady your full of your self y and just don't listen.
answer the question,
HOW ARE THEY MAKING ANY MONEY ?

Simples !
You must read my comments with the greatest care instead of trying to trip up any thing that you find wrong SIMPLES and dont get so irritated please young lady
Again simple question

how are they making money
Selling players, chopping the wage bill, sacking CEO, staff, like did you not Know that?
Wow that was hard work.
Now how does that cover the money they have spent and make a profit,
then look who has taken money out of the club
All questions can be answered by actually reading my comments earlier. and You definitely need to put your thinking cap on dear your irrational and not compos mentis More threats coming .TALK TO THE HAND Ha,Ha,Ha.
rather than hide behind childish comments which would be seen as an inability to hold an adult conversation just put in plain English with a few sums how venkys are making money.
Then ask yourself who has taken a lot of money out of the club, ask them for a comment. because they stay out of the way and refuse to talk on the issue.
[quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vicn1956[/bold] wrote: "Why on earth they bothered to buy the club." We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££ They are still in shock and confused- every word they say we take with a pinch of salt. To them lying seems as natural as breathing. All the media luvvies are quiet about recommending kean for the Spurs job- or has their agent/s not told them to?[/p][/quote]We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ £££££ If they bought the club, paid off the debt and gave the manager 20m to spend on players how are they making money, The clause in Jones` contract was not their doing and Samba refused to play.[/p][/quote]Boll*cks they couldn't wait to sell Jones a`clear asset for rovers future in the PL, money money money =venkys they already new before buying the club what players they could make a quick return profit from,and why would you release a player,players who have been a major asset in keeping rovers in the PL with yrs of pro,experience as top players for years ?Nelson who now has signed a new 2yr `contract with spurs PL an example, clearly it was to chop the wage structure at the club, yes venkys truly were planning for the future? IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP,,HA,HA, how any one who is a rovers fan can come on here and even attempt to absolve kean or venkys or try to even put a reoson for venkys business **** up and then down rovers fans from wanting to fight for their town club is beyond me.Venkys paid off their debt with the selling of BRFC ONLY CHANCE OF STAYING IN THE PL.The 20 million on players kean bought who couldn't even get in the first team and the rest who are desperate to leave the club after one season of loyalty,dont make me laugh,funny how venkys are stating once again that no one is leaving the club, yet many have the get out clause written in their contract to leave the club, which was by the way a contractual agreement with the owners VENKYS stamp of aproaval who bought them, if they really wanted to stop them from fleeing the club and fleeing is what they are going to do, venkys would not have allowed these players their get out clause in the contract in the first place .Venkys future for BRFC is to buy short term and sell for profit and fook BRFC football future at the top level.[/p][/quote]You do not answer the point about how they are making money, 1.The clause in jones contract was made b4 the club sale, 2. I raised a point about how they are making money and having read your long winded reply you have not answered the point which i raised. 3. You seem to think that releasing Nelson who had been a long term injury and spending 20m on new players makes a profit. 4. Which other players have a get out clause that would make a profit. Please dont make random statements which question my status as a BRFC fan just show everyone how a profit has been made with what has gone on. Also when the club was sold who made a profit.[/p][/quote]Talk to the hand,no point in enlightening a wet fire.[/p][/quote]Wow a really useful post, so you cant describe how they are making money[/p][/quote]Go away and talk to the hand young lady your full of your self y and just don't listen.[/p][/quote]answer the question, HOW ARE THEY MAKING ANY MONEY ? Simples ![/p][/quote]You must read my comments with the greatest care instead of trying to trip up any thing that you find wrong SIMPLES and dont get so irritated please young lady[/p][/quote]Again simple question how are they making money[/p][/quote]Selling players, chopping the wage bill, sacking CEO, staff, like did you not Know that?[/p][/quote]Wow that was hard work. Now how does that cover the money they have spent and make a profit, then look who has taken money out of the club[/p][/quote]All questions can be answered by actually reading my comments earlier. and You definitely need to put your thinking cap on dear your irrational and not compos mentis More threats coming .TALK TO THE HAND Ha,Ha,Ha.[/p][/quote]rather than hide behind childish comments which would be seen as an inability to hold an adult conversation just put in plain English with a few sums how venkys are making money. Then ask yourself who has taken a lot of money out of the club, ask them for a comment. because they stay out of the way and refuse to talk on the issue. fickle fan
  • Score: 0

4:54pm Fri 15 Jun 12

alfa111 says...

fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
vicn1956 wrote:
"Why on earth they bothered to buy the club." We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££














££££££££££














££££££££££














££££££££

They are still in shock and confused- every word they say we take with a pinch of salt. To them lying seems as natural as breathing.

All the media luvvies are quiet about recommending kean for the Spurs job- or has their agent/s not told them to?
We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ £££££
If they bought the club, paid off the debt and gave the manager 20m to spend on players how are they making money,
The clause in Jones` contract was not their doing and Samba refused to play.
Boll*cks they couldn't wait to sell Jones a`clear asset for rovers future in the PL, money money money =venkys they already new before buying the club what players they could make a quick return profit from,and why would you release a player,players who have been a major asset in keeping rovers in the PL with yrs of pro,experience as top players for years ?Nelson who now has signed a new 2yr `contract with spurs PL an example, clearly it was to chop the wage structure at the club, yes venkys truly were planning for the future? IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP,,HA,HA, how any one who is a rovers fan can come on here and even attempt to absolve kean or venkys or try to even put a reoson for venkys business **** up and then down rovers fans from wanting to fight for their town club is beyond me.Venkys paid off their debt with the selling of BRFC ONLY CHANCE OF STAYING IN THE PL.The 20 million on players kean bought who couldn't even get in the first team and the rest who are desperate to leave the club after one season of loyalty,dont make me laugh,funny how venkys are stating once again that no one is leaving the club, yet many have the get out clause written in their contract to leave the club, which was by the way a contractual agreement with the owners VENKYS stamp of aproaval who bought them, if they really wanted to stop them from fleeing the club and fleeing is what they are going to do, venkys would not have allowed these players their get out clause in the contract in the first place .Venkys future for BRFC is to buy short term and sell for profit and fook BRFC football future at the top level.
You do not answer the point about how they are making money,

1.The clause in jones contract was made b4 the club sale,
2. I raised a point about how they are making money and having read your long winded reply you have not answered the point which i raised.
3. You seem to think that releasing Nelson who had been a long term injury and spending 20m on new players makes a profit.
4. Which other players have a get out clause that would make a profit.
Please dont make random statements which question my status as a BRFC fan just show everyone how a profit has been made with what has gone on.

Also when the club was sold who made a profit.
Talk to the hand,no point in enlightening a wet fire.
Wow a really useful post, so you cant describe how they are making money
Go away and talk to the hand young lady your full of your self y and just don't listen.
answer the question,
HOW ARE THEY MAKING ANY MONEY ?

Simples !
You must read my comments with the greatest care instead of trying to trip up any thing that you find wrong SIMPLES and dont get so irritated please young lady
Again simple question

how are they making money
Selling players, chopping the wage bill, sacking CEO, staff, like did you not Know that?
Wow that was hard work.
Now how does that cover the money they have spent and make a profit,
then look who has taken money out of the club
All questions can be answered by actually reading my comments earlier. and You definitely need to put your thinking cap on dear your irrational and not compos mentis More threats coming .TALK TO THE HAND Ha,Ha,Ha.
rather than hide behind childish comments which would be seen as an inability to hold an adult conversation just put in plain English with a few sums how venkys are making money.
Then ask yourself who has taken a lot of money out of the club, ask them for a comment. because they stay out of the way and refuse to talk on the issue.
Read earlier comments.
[quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vicn1956[/bold] wrote: "Why on earth they bothered to buy the club." We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££ They are still in shock and confused- every word they say we take with a pinch of salt. To them lying seems as natural as breathing. All the media luvvies are quiet about recommending kean for the Spurs job- or has their agent/s not told them to?[/p][/quote]We KNOW why they bought the club- ££££££££££ ££££££££££ ££££££££££ £££££ If they bought the club, paid off the debt and gave the manager 20m to spend on players how are they making money, The clause in Jones` contract was not their doing and Samba refused to play.[/p][/quote]Boll*cks they couldn't wait to sell Jones a`clear asset for rovers future in the PL, money money money =venkys they already new before buying the club what players they could make a quick return profit from,and why would you release a player,players who have been a major asset in keeping rovers in the PL with yrs of pro,experience as top players for years ?Nelson who now has signed a new 2yr `contract with spurs PL an example, clearly it was to chop the wage structure at the club, yes venkys truly were planning for the future? IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP,,HA,HA, how any one who is a rovers fan can come on here and even attempt to absolve kean or venkys or try to even put a reoson for venkys business **** up and then down rovers fans from wanting to fight for their town club is beyond me.Venkys paid off their debt with the selling of BRFC ONLY CHANCE OF STAYING IN THE PL.The 20 million on players kean bought who couldn't even get in the first team and the rest who are desperate to leave the club after one season of loyalty,dont make me laugh,funny how venkys are stating once again that no one is leaving the club, yet many have the get out clause written in their contract to leave the club, which was by the way a contractual agreement with the owners VENKYS stamp of aproaval who bought them, if they really wanted to stop them from fleeing the club and fleeing is what they are going to do, venkys would not have allowed these players their get out clause in the contract in the first place .Venkys future for BRFC is to buy short term and sell for profit and fook BRFC football future at the top level.[/p][/quote]You do not answer the point about how they are making money, 1.The clause in jones contract was made b4 the club sale, 2. I raised a point about how they are making money and having read your long winded reply you have not answered the point which i raised. 3. You seem to think that releasing Nelson who had been a long term injury and spending 20m on new players makes a profit. 4. Which other players have a get out clause that would make a profit. Please dont make random statements which question my status as a BRFC fan just show everyone how a profit has been made with what has gone on. Also when the club was sold who made a profit.[/p][/quote]Talk to the hand,no point in enlightening a wet fire.[/p][/quote]Wow a really useful post, so you cant describe how they are making money[/p][/quote]Go away and talk to the hand young lady your full of your self y and just don't listen.[/p][/quote]answer the question, HOW ARE THEY MAKING ANY MONEY ? Simples ![/p][/quote]You must read my comments with the greatest care instead of trying to trip up any thing that you find wrong SIMPLES and dont get so irritated please young lady[/p][/quote]Again simple question how are they making money[/p][/quote]Selling players, chopping the wage bill, sacking CEO, staff, like did you not Know that?[/p][/quote]Wow that was hard work. Now how does that cover the money they have spent and make a profit, then look who has taken money out of the club[/p][/quote]All questions can be answered by actually reading my comments earlier. and You definitely need to put your thinking cap on dear your irrational and not compos mentis More threats coming .TALK TO THE HAND Ha,Ha,Ha.[/p][/quote]rather than hide behind childish comments which would be seen as an inability to hold an adult conversation just put in plain English with a few sums how venkys are making money. Then ask yourself who has taken a lot of money out of the club, ask them for a comment. because they stay out of the way and refuse to talk on the issue.[/p][/quote]Read earlier comments. alfa111
  • Score: 0

8:40pm Fri 15 Jun 12

fickle fan says...

fickle fan wrote:
Hippocroccapig wrote:
kazz wrote:
As a group of Blackburn fans return to Lancashire this evening after three days of meetings in London with MPs and the FA about the plight of their club, Sportingintelligence publishes a letter, in full below, sent last week by the same campaigners to Jerome Anderson, the agent of Rovers’ manager, Steve Kean.
The letter appeals to Anderson for help, seeking answers to 23 questions relating to why Blackburn has been run in the way it has since Venky’s took over.
Glen Mullan, the chair of the BRFC Action Group, writes in the letter: “You have consistently said in public that you have the best interests of Rovers and the fans at heart. If this indeed is true, then please help.”
The letters seeks clarity about the precise role that Anderson played at the club. Anderson has spoken about sleeping at the training ground as he worked on club business in January 2011.
Anderson has consistently and strenuously insisted that he has had no hands-on role at Blackburn whatsoever since the end of the January 2011 transfer window.
Mullan explains in the letter that the fans are frustrated at a lack of answers from anyone connected with the club, hence the appeal to Anderson. No response has been forthcoming yet.
On Wednesday, the Action Group met in Westminster with lifelong Rovers fan and local MP, Jack Straw, as well as with two other local MPs, Graham Jones and Jake Berry.
The group then attended at a private 45-minute meeting with sports minister Hugh Robertson, who listened to their concerns about what’s happened to Rovers.
It is understood the fans passed over hundreds of pages of paperwork outlining their concerns, and asked if Robertson could investigate whether better football governance might have prevented the mess at Ewood Park.
It is understood that the group, together with the MPs, will prepare a specific list of questions about the ownership of the club, the influence upon the decision-making processes by external parties at different points, and how certain contracts were drawn up.
Robertson is believed to have promised that he will seek answers from the relevant authorities on these matters.
The fans had already had a private meeting with Premier League chief executive Richard Scudamore. Toda


y they met at Wembley with senior FA officials who work on compliance issues at the governing body.
Mullan told Sportingintelligence this evening: “We’re ecstatic simply to have had these meetings to state our concerns to people who have real power to help us find answers.
“To be able to go to Parliament and be given a platform to talk shows us that there are people willing to listen. We’ve handed over all kinds of information, and if the MPs, the FA, the Premier League or a combination of all of them can use their resources and expertise to help us find some answers, it will have been worth it.
“We’re just seeking honest answers to basic questions about our own football club. What we’re really pleased about this week is that people with clout are now putting their weight behind our cause.”
Aside from on-pitch failings that led to Rovers’ relegation, the fans’ major concerns revolve around where the power at Rovers really lies; why senior executives are apparently impotent in key decisions at the club; why Kean remains manager despite results over 18 months worse than many peers who’ve been fired while doing better; whether the authorities have any ongoing concerns over the way transfers have been conducted; and what if any concerns those authorities have had in the past 18 months.
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Letter from Blackburn Rovers FC Action Group to Jerome Anderson, 6 June 2012
Dear Mr Anderson,
I’m writing to you today in the hope that you may be able to help Blackburn fans understand what is going on at our club.
Nobody with any connection or affection for the club can fail to see that something has gone very badly wrong at Rovers since Venky’s took over, although the exact reasons remain unclear.
We as fans have asked the club questions – no reply. We have asked the owners – no reply. We have asked for meetings with officials and with the manager – these meetings were promised and never happened.
We have asked everyone we can possibly think of for help in finding answers to basic questions about what has happened at Rovers in the past 18 months – and why.
It is in this spirit, of wanting simple, straight, honest information, which we appeal for your assistance in answering some questions for us. We ask you for several reasons, namely -
you are somebody who has acknowledged yourself that you were ‘inside’ Rovers for a least a short while, which is more than most of us.
you are agent of the manager, Steve Kean, who at times seems to the only person who knows what Mrs Desai is thinking, and we think it a reasonable assumption that therefore you will know much of what Steve Kean knows.
you have consistently said in public that you have the best interests of Rovers and the fans at heart. If this indeed is true, then please help us by answering the following questions.
 
Questions for Mr Anderson, the answers to which the fans of Blackburn feel will give us a much clearer picture of what has happened to our football club.
1: Could you clarify how you first got involved in the sale of Blackburn? Spec


ific
ally -
a: Who hired you to help find a buyer, and when, and who if anybody paid you a commission fee for the introduction?
b: When did you first meet anyone from Venky’s and / or the Rao family in person?
c: Did you or SEM or Kentaro have any previous business ties to Venky’s before the Blackburn takeover?
 
2: What role did you play in the hiring of Steve Kean as Blackburn’s manager? Specif


ical
ly -
a: Did you ever advise Venky’s that Sam Allardyce should be relieved of his job?
b: When did Steve Kean first meeting anyone from Venky’s, and Mrs Desai specifically?
c: Did you draw up, oversee or have any role in the preparation of Steve Kean’s management contract while you were working for Venky’s?
 
3: Steve Kean was arrested for drinking driving in May 2011 – and later convicted. Kean’s belief was fans spiked his drink, a view that alienated many supporters. News of Kean’s arrest was first widely reported on 17 May 2011, exactly the same day that The Sun ran a big story about Gael Givet and alleged irregular payments made to a contact of Sam Allardyce’s around Givet’s transfer.
a: Did you have any prior knowledge that The Sun were going to run this story on Allardyce?
b: And as the agent of the incumbent manager at the time, did The Sun ask for your opinion of one or both stories – Steve Kean’s arrest and the Givet story?
NB: the point of asking you this question is to ascertain how much media negativity is media-driven for lurid stories, and how much is genuine public interest stories. As someone highly experienced in dealing with media, we welcome your insight.
 
4: It has been reported, and confirmed, that the Premier League vetoed – at least initially – the move of Mauro Formica to Blackburn because of a ‘third party ownership’ issue around the player. You yourself have spoken about working tirelessly for Rovers through the January 2011 transfer window in which Formica eventually moved, so:
a: What exactly was the third party issue with Formica?
b: Who owned him, if it wasn’t Newell’s Old Boys, when the deal was first proposed?
c: How many transfer deals, incoming to Blackburn or outgoing from Rovers, were you personally involved with during the January 2011 window?
d: What was your specific involvement in those deals and were you paid regular agents’ fees? Or flat commissions for helping Venky’s? Or nothing because you just wanted to assist them?
e: A leaked letter from John Williams et al written in January 2011 suggested the ‘old board’ were not happy with mandates being given to you / SEM during that period. Were you aware of their concerns?
f: It has been reported an associate of yours was paid a large agent’s fee when Rochina moved and the agent in question has confirmed you worked together on that deal. Did you receive money from that deal?
g: If Formica’s deal was stopped because of third party involvement, was there originally a plan to bring other players in with third party ownership?
h: Are you aware of the Premier League preventing any other transfer deals in or out of Blackburn, after the Formica deal?
i: It is widely believed that Steve Kean has had only marginal involvement in Rovers transfer deals and Venky’s have been using a variety of inexperienced advisors and unconventional methods to get players since January 2011. Can you confirm what you know about this? And why has Steve Kean never gone public about this apparent lack of influence?
 
5: Do you or Steve Kean have any share in Rovers or options to have any shares in Rovers, or own any shares in any Venky’s company or subsidiary, or any agreement that gives you an option on any such shares, now or in the future?
 
6: In your interview on Sky in January, you said you’d had no business dealings with Venky’s since January 2011 but reports from fans claim you attended a meeting in Pune in October 2011 between Ian Battersby and Ian Currie, and Mrs Desai. Is that true? If so, what was the purpose and outcome of that meeting?
 
7: In your Sky interview you suggested that the protests were ‘too well organised’ and ‘darker forces’ were at work. Could you specify what you meant? We as fans want the best for our club. You have said you want the best for your club. We appeal to you for openness and transparency on what you meant so we can all tackle any ‘darker forces’ together.
 
8: Your solicitors issued a legal notice to me, asking for me not to discuss you in forthcoming BRFC Action Group activities. This was surprising considering you have refused to answer any prior communication or invitation we have sent you to discuss our club. Once again, in the spirit of all of use trying to do the best for Blackburn, can we arrange to meet please?
 
9: Steve Kean and Venky’s have both had legal letters from Sam Allardyce’s lawyers in relation to the video of Steve Kean filmed in Hong Kong. What is Steve Kean’s stance on what he said in that video?
 
10: Do you feel Venky’s have been good custodians of Rovers?
 
Kindest Regards
Glen Mullan
Can anyone really see Anderson hanging himself by answering any of these questions? Particularly after the vitriol he has received from the vast majority of supporters.

Do me a favour Glen you are clutching at some small straws now
Why not ask the Walker trust about the events leading up to the sale of rovers and the dealings they had with Anderson
Totally agree with asking the Walker trust, Andy Cryer has asked them but they wont comment
[quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hippocroccapig[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kazz[/bold] wrote: As a group of Blackburn fans return to Lancashire this evening after three days of meetings in London with MPs and the FA about the plight of their club, Sportingintelligence publishes a letter, in full below, sent last week by the same campaigners to Jerome Anderson, the agent of Rovers’ manager, Steve Kean. The letter appeals to Anderson for help, seeking answers to 23 questions relating to why Blackburn has been run in the way it has since Venky’s took over. Glen Mullan, the chair of the BRFC Action Group, writes in the letter: “You have consistently said in public that you have the best interests of Rovers and the fans at heart. If this indeed is true, then please help.” The letters seeks clarity about the precise role that Anderson played at the club. Anderson has spoken about sleeping at the training ground as he worked on club business in January 2011. Anderson has consistently and strenuously insisted that he has had no hands-on role at Blackburn whatsoever since the end of the January 2011 transfer window. Mullan explains in the letter that the fans are frustrated at a lack of answers from anyone connected with the club, hence the appeal to Anderson. No response has been forthcoming yet. On Wednesday, the Action Group met in Westminster with lifelong Rovers fan and local MP, Jack Straw, as well as with two other local MPs, Graham Jones and Jake Berry. The group then attended at a private 45-minute meeting with sports minister Hugh Robertson, who listened to their concerns about what’s happened to Rovers. It is understood the fans passed over hundreds of pages of paperwork outlining their concerns, and asked if Robertson could investigate whether better football governance might have prevented the mess at Ewood Park. It is understood that the group, together with the MPs, will prepare a specific list of questions about the ownership of the club, the influence upon the decision-making processes by external parties at different points, and how certain contracts were drawn up. Robertson is believed to have promised that he will seek answers from the relevant authorities on these matters. The fans had already had a private meeting with Premier League chief executive Richard Scudamore. Toda y they met at Wembley with senior FA officials who work on compliance issues at the governing body. Mullan told Sportingintelligence this evening: “We’re ecstatic simply to have had these meetings to state our concerns to people who have real power to help us find answers. “To be able to go to Parliament and be given a platform to talk shows us that there are people willing to listen. We’ve handed over all kinds of information, and if the MPs, the FA, the Premier League or a combination of all of them can use their resources and expertise to help us find some answers, it will have been worth it. “We’re just seeking honest answers to basic questions about our own football club. What we’re really pleased about this week is that people with clout are now putting their weight behind our cause.” Aside from on-pitch failings that led to Rovers’ relegation, the fans’ major concerns revolve around where the power at Rovers really lies; why senior executives are apparently impotent in key decisions at the club; why Kean remains manager despite results over 18 months worse than many peers who’ve been fired while doing better; whether the authorities have any ongoing concerns over the way transfers have been conducted; and what if any concerns those authorities have had in the past 18 months. . AN ARCHIVE OF Rovers STORIES IS HERE Follow SPORTINGINTELLIGENCE on Twitter Sportingintelligence home page . Letter from Blackburn Rovers FC Action Group to Jerome Anderson, 6 June 2012 Dear Mr Anderson, I’m writing to you today in the hope that you may be able to help Blackburn fans understand what is going on at our club. Nobody with any connection or affection for the club can fail to see that something has gone very badly wrong at Rovers since Venky’s took over, although the exact reasons remain unclear. We as fans have asked the club questions – no reply. We have asked the owners – no reply. We have asked for meetings with officials and with the manager – these meetings were promised and never happened. We have asked everyone we can possibly think of for help in finding answers to basic questions about what has happened at Rovers in the past 18 months – and why. It is in this spirit, of wanting simple, straight, honest information, which we appeal for your assistance in answering some questions for us. We ask you for several reasons, namely - you are somebody who has acknowledged yourself that you were ‘inside’ Rovers for a least a short while, which is more than most of us. you are agent of the manager, Steve Kean, who at times seems to the only person who knows what Mrs Desai is thinking, and we think it a reasonable assumption that therefore you will know much of what Steve Kean knows. you have consistently said in public that you have the best interests of Rovers and the fans at heart. If this indeed is true, then please help us by answering the following questions.   Questions for Mr Anderson, the answers to which the fans of Blackburn feel will give us a much clearer picture of what has happened to our football club. 1: Could you clarify how you first got involved in the sale of Blackburn? Spec ific ally - a: Who hired you to help find a buyer, and when, and who if anybody paid you a commission fee for the introduction? b: When did you first meet anyone from Venky’s and / or the Rao family in person? c: Did you or SEM or Kentaro have any previous business ties to Venky’s before the Blackburn takeover?   2: What role did you play in the hiring of Steve Kean as Blackburn’s manager? Specif ical ly - a: Did you ever advise Venky’s that Sam Allardyce should be relieved of his job? b: When did Steve Kean first meeting anyone from Venky’s, and Mrs Desai specifically? c: Did you draw up, oversee or have any role in the preparation of Steve Kean’s management contract while you were working for Venky’s?   3: Steve Kean was arrested for drinking driving in May 2011 – and later convicted. Kean’s belief was fans spiked his drink, a view that alienated many supporters. News of Kean’s arrest was first widely reported on 17 May 2011, exactly the same day that The Sun ran a big story about Gael Givet and alleged irregular payments made to a contact of Sam Allardyce’s around Givet’s transfer. a: Did you have any prior knowledge that The Sun were going to run this story on Allardyce? b: And as the agent of the incumbent manager at the time, did The Sun ask for your opinion of one or both stories – Steve Kean’s arrest and the Givet story? NB: the point of asking you this question is to ascertain how much media negativity is media-driven for lurid stories, and how much is genuine public interest stories. As someone highly experienced in dealing with media, we welcome your insight.   4: It has been reported, and confirmed, that the Premier League vetoed – at least initially – the move of Mauro Formica to Blackburn because of a ‘third party ownership’ issue around the player. You yourself have spoken about working tirelessly for Rovers through the January 2011 transfer window in which Formica eventually moved, so: a: What exactly was the third party issue with Formica? b: Who owned him, if it wasn’t Newell’s Old Boys, when the deal was first proposed? c: How many transfer deals, incoming to Blackburn or outgoing from Rovers, were you personally involved with during the January 2011 window? d: What was your specific involvement in those deals and were you paid regular agents’ fees? Or flat commissions for helping Venky’s? Or nothing because you just wanted to assist them? e: A leaked letter from John Williams et al written in January 2011 suggested the ‘old board’ were not happy with mandates being given to you / SEM during that period. Were you aware of their concerns? f: It has been reported an associate of yours was paid a large agent’s fee when Rochina moved and the agent in question has confirmed you worked together on that deal. Did you receive money from that deal? g: If Formica’s deal was stopped because of third party involvement, was there originally a plan to bring other players in with third party ownership? h: Are you aware of the Premier League preventing any other transfer deals in or out of Blackburn, after the Formica deal? i: It is widely believed that Steve Kean has had only marginal involvement in Rovers transfer deals and Venky’s have been using a variety of inexperienced advisors and unconventional methods to get players since January 2011. Can you confirm what you know about this? And why has Steve Kean never gone public about this apparent lack of influence?   5: Do you or Steve Kean have any share in Rovers or options to have any shares in Rovers, or own any shares in any Venky’s company or subsidiary, or any agreement that gives you an option on any such shares, now or in the future?   6: In your interview on Sky in January, you said you’d had no business dealings with Venky’s since January 2011 but reports from fans claim you attended a meeting in Pune in October 2011 between Ian Battersby and Ian Currie, and Mrs Desai. Is that true? If so, what was the purpose and outcome of that meeting?   7: In your Sky interview you suggested that the protests were ‘too well organised’ and ‘darker forces’ were at work. Could you specify what you meant? We as fans want the best for our club. You have said you want the best for your club. We appeal to you for openness and transparency on what you meant so we can all tackle any ‘darker forces’ together.   8: Your solicitors issued a legal notice to me, asking for me not to discuss you in forthcoming BRFC Action Group activities. This was surprising considering you have refused to answer any prior communication or invitation we have sent you to discuss our club. Once again, in the spirit of all of use trying to do the best for Blackburn, can we arrange to meet please?   9: Steve Kean and Venky’s have both had legal letters from Sam Allardyce’s lawyers in relation to the video of Steve Kean filmed in Hong Kong. What is Steve Kean’s stance on what he said in that video?   10: Do you feel Venky’s have been good custodians of Rovers?   Kindest Regards Glen Mullan[/p][/quote]Can anyone really see Anderson hanging himself by answering any of these questions? Particularly after the vitriol he has received from the vast majority of supporters. Do me a favour Glen you are clutching at some small straws now[/p][/quote]Why not ask the Walker trust about the events leading up to the sale of rovers and the dealings they had with Anderson[/p][/quote]Totally agree with asking the Walker trust, Andy Cryer has asked them but they wont comment fickle fan
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fickle fan wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
Hippocroccapig wrote:
kazz wrote:
As a group of Blackburn fans return to Lancashire this evening after three days of meetings in London with MPs and the FA about the plight of their club, Sportingintelligence publishes a letter, in full below, sent last week by the same campaigners to Jerome Anderson, the agent of Rovers’ manager, Steve Kean.
The letter appeals to Anderson for help, seeking answers to 23 questions relating to why Blackburn has been run in the way it has since Venky’s took over.
Glen Mullan, the chair of the BRFC Action Group, writes in the letter: “You have consistently said in public that you have the best interests of Rovers and the fans at heart. If this indeed is true, then please help.”
The letters seeks clarity about the precise role that Anderson played at the club. Anderson has spoken about sleeping at the training ground as he worked on club business in January 2011.
Anderson has consistently and strenuously insisted that he has had no hands-on role at Blackburn whatsoever since the end of the January 2011 transfer window.
Mullan explains in the letter that the fans are frustrated at a lack of answers from anyone connected with the club, hence the appeal to Anderson. No response has been forthcoming yet.
On Wednesday, the Action Group met in Westminster with lifelong Rovers fan and local MP, Jack Straw, as well as with two other local MPs, Graham Jones and Jake Berry.
The group then attended at a private 45-minute meeting with sports minister Hugh Robertson, who listened to their concerns about what’s happened to Rovers.
It is understood the fans passed over hundreds of pages of paperwork outlining their concerns, and asked if Robertson could investigate whether better football governance might have prevented the mess at Ewood Park.
It is understood that the group, together with the MPs, will prepare a specific list of questions about the ownership of the club, the influence upon the decision-making processes by external parties at different points, and how certain contracts were drawn up.
Robertson is believed to have promised that he will seek answers from the relevant authorities on these matters.
The fans had already had a private meeting with Premier League chief executive Richard Scudamore. Toda



y they met at Wembley with senior FA officials who work on compliance issues at the governing body.
Mullan told Sportingintelligence this evening: “We’re ecstatic simply to have had these meetings to state our concerns to people who have real power to help us find answers.
“To be able to go to Parliament and be given a platform to talk shows us that there are people willing to listen. We’ve handed over all kinds of information, and if the MPs, the FA, the Premier League or a combination of all of them can use their resources and expertise to help us find some answers, it will have been worth it.
“We’re just seeking honest answers to basic questions about our own football club. What we’re really pleased about this week is that people with clout are now putting their weight behind our cause.”
Aside from on-pitch failings that led to Rovers’ relegation, the fans’ major concerns revolve around where the power at Rovers really lies; why senior executives are apparently impotent in key decisions at the club; why Kean remains manager despite results over 18 months worse than many peers who’ve been fired while doing better; whether the authorities have any ongoing concerns over the way transfers have been conducted; and what if any concerns those authorities have had in the past 18 months.
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AN ARCHIVE OF Rovers STORIES IS HERE
Follow SPORTINGINTELLIGENCE on Twitter
Sportingintelligence home page
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Letter from Blackburn Rovers FC Action Group to Jerome Anderson, 6 June 2012
Dear Mr Anderson,
I’m writing to you today in the hope that you may be able to help Blackburn fans understand what is going on at our club.
Nobody with any connection or affection for the club can fail to see that something has gone very badly wrong at Rovers since Venky’s took over, although the exact reasons remain unclear.
We as fans have asked the club questions – no reply. We have asked the owners – no reply. We have asked for meetings with officials and with the manager – these meetings were promised and never happened.
We have asked everyone we can possibly think of for help in finding answers to basic questions about what has happened at Rovers in the past 18 months – and why.
It is in this spirit, of wanting simple, straight, honest information, which we appeal for your assistance in answering some questions for us. We ask you for several reasons, namely -
you are somebody who has acknowledged yourself that you were ‘inside’ Rovers for a least a short while, which is more than most of us.
you are agent of the manager, Steve Kean, who at times seems to the only person who knows what Mrs Desai is thinking, and we think it a reasonable assumption that therefore you will know much of what Steve Kean knows.
you have consistently said in public that you have the best interests of Rovers and the fans at heart. If this indeed is true, then please help us by answering the following questions.
 
Questions for Mr Anderson, the answers to which the fans of Blackburn feel will give us a much clearer picture of what has happened to our football club.
1: Could you clarify how you first got involved in the sale of Blackburn? Spec



ific
ally -
a: Who hired you to help find a buyer, and when, and who if anybody paid you a commission fee for the introduction?
b: When did you first meet anyone from Venky’s and / or the Rao family in person?
c: Did you or SEM or Kentaro have any previous business ties to Venky’s before the Blackburn takeover?
 
2: What role did you play in the hiring of Steve Kean as Blackburn’s manager? Specif



ical
ly -
a: Did you ever advise Venky’s that Sam Allardyce should be relieved of his job?
b: When did Steve Kean first meeting anyone from Venky’s, and Mrs Desai specifically?
c: Did you draw up, oversee or have any role in the preparation of Steve Kean’s management contract while you were working for Venky’s?
 
3: Steve Kean was arrested for drinking driving in May 2011 – and later convicted. Kean’s belief was fans spiked his drink, a view that alienated many supporters. News of Kean’s arrest was first widely reported on 17 May 2011, exactly the same day that The Sun ran a big story about Gael Givet and alleged irregular payments made to a contact of Sam Allardyce’s around Givet’s transfer.
a: Did you have any prior knowledge that The Sun were going to run this story on Allardyce?
b: And as the agent of the incumbent manager at the time, did The Sun ask for your opinion of one or both stories – Steve Kean’s arrest and the Givet story?
NB: the point of asking you this question is to ascertain how much media negativity is media-driven for lurid stories, and how much is genuine public interest stories. As someone highly experienced in dealing with media, we welcome your insight.
 
4: It has been reported, and confirmed, that the Premier League vetoed – at least initially – the move of Mauro Formica to Blackburn because of a ‘third party ownership’ issue around the player. You yourself have spoken about working tirelessly for Rovers through the January 2011 transfer window in which Formica eventually moved, so:
a: What exactly was the third party issue with Formica?
b: Who owned him, if it wasn’t Newell’s Old Boys, when the deal was first proposed?
c: How many transfer deals, incoming to Blackburn or outgoing from Rovers, were you personally involved with during the January 2011 window?
d: What was your specific involvement in those deals and were you paid regular agents’ fees? Or flat commissions for helping Venky’s? Or nothing because you just wanted to assist them?
e: A leaked letter from John Williams et al written in January 2011 suggested the ‘old board’ were not happy with mandates being given to you / SEM during that period. Were you aware of their concerns?
f: It has been reported an associate of yours was paid a large agent’s fee when Rochina moved and the agent in question has confirmed you worked together on that deal. Did you receive money from that deal?
g: If Formica’s deal was stopped because of third party involvement, was there originally a plan to bring other players in with third party ownership?
h: Are you aware of the Premier League preventing any other transfer deals in or out of Blackburn, after the Formica deal?
i: It is widely believed that Steve Kean has had only marginal involvement in Rovers transfer deals and Venky’s have been using a variety of inexperienced advisors and unconventional methods to get players since January 2011. Can you confirm what you know about this? And why has Steve Kean never gone public about this apparent lack of influence?
 
5: Do you or Steve Kean have any share in Rovers or options to have any shares in Rovers, or own any shares in any Venky’s company or subsidiary, or any agreement that gives you an option on any such shares, now or in the future?
 
6: In your interview on Sky in January, you said you’d had no business dealings with Venky’s since January 2011 but reports from fans claim you attended a meeting in Pune in October 2011 between Ian Battersby and Ian Currie, and Mrs Desai. Is that true? If so, what was the purpose and outcome of that meeting?
 
7: In your Sky interview you suggested that the protests were ‘too well organised’ and ‘darker forces’ were at work. Could you specify what you meant? We as fans want the best for our club. You have said you want the best for your club. We appeal to you for openness and transparency on what you meant so we can all tackle any ‘darker forces’ together.
 
8: Your solicitors issued a legal notice to me, asking for me not to discuss you in forthcoming BRFC Action Group activities. This was surprising considering you have refused to answer any prior communication or invitation we have sent you to discuss our club. Once again, in the spirit of all of use trying to do the best for Blackburn, can we arrange to meet please?
 
9: Steve Kean and Venky’s have both had legal letters from Sam Allardyce’s lawyers in relation to the video of Steve Kean filmed in Hong Kong. What is Steve Kean’s stance on what he said in that video?
 
10: Do you feel Venky’s have been good custodians of Rovers?
 
Kindest Regards
Glen Mullan
Can anyone really see Anderson hanging himself by answering any of these questions? Particularly after the vitriol he has received from the vast majority of supporters.

Do me a favour Glen you are clutching at some small straws now
Why not ask the Walker trust about the events leading up to the sale of rovers and the dealings they had with Anderson
Totally agree with asking the Walker trust, Andy Cryer has asked them but they wont comment
I agree as well. but it was not three days of meetings it was more like a ten minute meeting with an F.a tea boy and m.p's rent boy before they got bored with the scruffy tramps and asked them to leave

The rest of the time was spent on travel, its a long haul back from london, a pony can only run at slow speed pulling a heavy caravan weighed down with tramps and stolen led.
[quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hippocroccapig[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kazz[/bold] wrote: As a group of Blackburn fans return to Lancashire this evening after three days of meetings in London with MPs and the FA about the plight of their club, Sportingintelligence publishes a letter, in full below, sent last week by the same campaigners to Jerome Anderson, the agent of Rovers’ manager, Steve Kean. The letter appeals to Anderson for help, seeking answers to 23 questions relating to why Blackburn has been run in the way it has since Venky’s took over. Glen Mullan, the chair of the BRFC Action Group, writes in the letter: “You have consistently said in public that you have the best interests of Rovers and the fans at heart. If this indeed is true, then please help.” The letters seeks clarity about the precise role that Anderson played at the club. Anderson has spoken about sleeping at the training ground as he worked on club business in January 2011. Anderson has consistently and strenuously insisted that he has had no hands-on role at Blackburn whatsoever since the end of the January 2011 transfer window. Mullan explains in the letter that the fans are frustrated at a lack of answers from anyone connected with the club, hence the appeal to Anderson. No response has been forthcoming yet. On Wednesday, the Action Group met in Westminster with lifelong Rovers fan and local MP, Jack Straw, as well as with two other local MPs, Graham Jones and Jake Berry. The group then attended at a private 45-minute meeting with sports minister Hugh Robertson, who listened to their concerns about what’s happened to Rovers. It is understood the fans passed over hundreds of pages of paperwork outlining their concerns, and asked if Robertson could investigate whether better football governance might have prevented the mess at Ewood Park. It is understood that the group, together with the MPs, will prepare a specific list of questions about the ownership of the club, the influence upon the decision-making processes by external parties at different points, and how certain contracts were drawn up. Robertson is believed to have promised that he will seek answers from the relevant authorities on these matters. The fans had already had a private meeting with Premier League chief executive Richard Scudamore. Toda y they met at Wembley with senior FA officials who work on compliance issues at the governing body. Mullan told Sportingintelligence this evening: “We’re ecstatic simply to have had these meetings to state our concerns to people who have real power to help us find answers. “To be able to go to Parliament and be given a platform to talk shows us that there are people willing to listen. We’ve handed over all kinds of information, and if the MPs, the FA, the Premier League or a combination of all of them can use their resources and expertise to help us find some answers, it will have been worth it. “We’re just seeking honest answers to basic questions about our own football club. What we’re really pleased about this week is that people with clout are now putting their weight behind our cause.” Aside from on-pitch failings that led to Rovers’ relegation, the fans’ major concerns revolve around where the power at Rovers really lies; why senior executives are apparently impotent in key decisions at the club; why Kean remains manager despite results over 18 months worse than many peers who’ve been fired while doing better; whether the authorities have any ongoing concerns over the way transfers have been conducted; and what if any concerns those authorities have had in the past 18 months. . AN ARCHIVE OF Rovers STORIES IS HERE Follow SPORTINGINTELLIGENCE on Twitter Sportingintelligence home page . Letter from Blackburn Rovers FC Action Group to Jerome Anderson, 6 June 2012 Dear Mr Anderson, I’m writing to you today in the hope that you may be able to help Blackburn fans understand what is going on at our club. Nobody with any connection or affection for the club can fail to see that something has gone very badly wrong at Rovers since Venky’s took over, although the exact reasons remain unclear. We as fans have asked the club questions – no reply. We have asked the owners – no reply. We have asked for meetings with officials and with the manager – these meetings were promised and never happened. We have asked everyone we can possibly think of for help in finding answers to basic questions about what has happened at Rovers in the past 18 months – and why. It is in this spirit, of wanting simple, straight, honest information, which we appeal for your assistance in answering some questions for us. We ask you for several reasons, namely - you are somebody who has acknowledged yourself that you were ‘inside’ Rovers for a least a short while, which is more than most of us. you are agent of the manager, Steve Kean, who at times seems to the only person who knows what Mrs Desai is thinking, and we think it a reasonable assumption that therefore you will know much of what Steve Kean knows. you have consistently said in public that you have the best interests of Rovers and the fans at heart. If this indeed is true, then please help us by answering the following questions.   Questions for Mr Anderson, the answers to which the fans of Blackburn feel will give us a much clearer picture of what has happened to our football club. 1: Could you clarify how you first got involved in the sale of Blackburn? Spec ific ally - a: Who hired you to help find a buyer, and when, and who if anybody paid you a commission fee for the introduction? b: When did you first meet anyone from Venky’s and / or the Rao family in person? c: Did you or SEM or Kentaro have any previous business ties to Venky’s before the Blackburn takeover?   2: What role did you play in the hiring of Steve Kean as Blackburn’s manager? Specif ical ly - a: Did you ever advise Venky’s that Sam Allardyce should be relieved of his job? b: When did Steve Kean first meeting anyone from Venky’s, and Mrs Desai specifically? c: Did you draw up, oversee or have any role in the preparation of Steve Kean’s management contract while you were working for Venky’s?   3: Steve Kean was arrested for drinking driving in May 2011 – and later convicted. Kean’s belief was fans spiked his drink, a view that alienated many supporters. News of Kean’s arrest was first widely reported on 17 May 2011, exactly the same day that The Sun ran a big story about Gael Givet and alleged irregular payments made to a contact of Sam Allardyce’s around Givet’s transfer. a: Did you have any prior knowledge that The Sun were going to run this story on Allardyce? b: And as the agent of the incumbent manager at the time, did The Sun ask for your opinion of one or both stories – Steve Kean’s arrest and the Givet story? NB: the point of asking you this question is to ascertain how much media negativity is media-driven for lurid stories, and how much is genuine public interest stories. As someone highly experienced in dealing with media, we welcome your insight.   4: It has been reported, and confirmed, that the Premier League vetoed – at least initially – the move of Mauro Formica to Blackburn because of a ‘third party ownership’ issue around the player. You yourself have spoken about working tirelessly for Rovers through the January 2011 transfer window in which Formica eventually moved, so: a: What exactly was the third party issue with Formica? b: Who owned him, if it wasn’t Newell’s Old Boys, when the deal was first proposed? c: How many transfer deals, incoming to Blackburn or outgoing from Rovers, were you personally involved with during the January 2011 window? d: What was your specific involvement in those deals and were you paid regular agents’ fees? Or flat commissions for helping Venky’s? Or nothing because you just wanted to assist them? e: A leaked letter from John Williams et al written in January 2011 suggested the ‘old board’ were not happy with mandates being given to you / SEM during that period. Were you aware of their concerns? f: It has been reported an associate of yours was paid a large agent’s fee when Rochina moved and the agent in question has confirmed you worked together on that deal. Did you receive money from that deal? g: If Formica’s deal was stopped because of third party involvement, was there originally a plan to bring other players in with third party ownership? h: Are you aware of the Premier League preventing any other transfer deals in or out of Blackburn, after the Formica deal? i: It is widely believed that Steve Kean has had only marginal involvement in Rovers transfer deals and Venky’s have been using a variety of inexperienced advisors and unconventional methods to get players since January 2011. Can you confirm what you know about this? And why has Steve Kean never gone public about this apparent lack of influence?   5: Do you or Steve Kean have any share in Rovers or options to have any shares in Rovers, or own any shares in any Venky’s company or subsidiary, or any agreement that gives you an option on any such shares, now or in the future?   6: In your interview on Sky in January, you said you’d had no business dealings with Venky’s since January 2011 but reports from fans claim you attended a meeting in Pune in October 2011 between Ian Battersby and Ian Currie, and Mrs Desai. Is that true? If so, what was the purpose and outcome of that meeting?   7: In your Sky interview you suggested that the protests were ‘too well organised’ and ‘darker forces’ were at work. Could you specify what you meant? We as fans want the best for our club. You have said you want the best for your club. We appeal to you for openness and transparency on what you meant so we can all tackle any ‘darker forces’ together.   8: Your solicitors issued a legal notice to me, asking for me not to discuss you in forthcoming BRFC Action Group activities. This was surprising considering you have refused to answer any prior communication or invitation we have sent you to discuss our club. Once again, in the spirit of all of use trying to do the best for Blackburn, can we arrange to meet please?   9: Steve Kean and Venky’s have both had legal letters from Sam Allardyce’s lawyers in relation to the video of Steve Kean filmed in Hong Kong. What is Steve Kean’s stance on what he said in that video?   10: Do you feel Venky’s have been good custodians of Rovers?   Kindest Regards Glen Mullan[/p][/quote]Can anyone really see Anderson hanging himself by answering any of these questions? Particularly after the vitriol he has received from the vast majority of supporters. Do me a favour Glen you are clutching at some small straws now[/p][/quote]Why not ask the Walker trust about the events leading up to the sale of rovers and the dealings they had with Anderson[/p][/quote]Totally agree with asking the Walker trust, Andy Cryer has asked them but they wont comment[/p][/quote]I agree as well. but it was not three days of meetings it was more like a ten minute meeting with an F.a tea boy and m.p's rent boy before they got bored with the scruffy tramps and asked them to leave The rest of the time was spent on travel, its a long haul back from london, a pony can only run at slow speed pulling a heavy caravan weighed down with tramps and stolen led. nontetleysdog
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4:29pm Sat 16 Jun 12

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5:43pm Sat 16 Jun 12

fickle fan says...

nontetleysdog wrote:
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As a group of Blackburn fans return to Lancashire this evening after three days of meetings in London with MPs and the FA about the plight of their club, Sportingintelligence publishes a letter, in full below, sent last week by the same campaigners to Jerome Anderson, the agent of Rovers’ manager, Steve Kean.
The letter appeals to Anderson for help, seeking answers to 23 questions relating to why Blackburn has been run in the way it has since Venky’s took over.
Glen Mullan, the chair of the BRFC Action Group, writes in the letter: “You have consistently said in public that you have the best interests of Rovers and the fans at heart. If this indeed is true, then please help.”
The letters seeks clarity about the precise role that Anderson played at the club. Anderson has spoken about sleeping at the training ground as he worked on club business in January 2011.
Anderson has consistently and strenuously insisted that he has had no hands-on role at Blackburn whatsoever since the end of the January 2011 transfer window.
Mullan explains in the letter that the fans are frustrated at a lack of answers from anyone connected with the club, hence the appeal to Anderson. No response has been forthcoming yet.
On Wednesday, the Action Group met in Westminster with lifelong Rovers fan and local MP, Jack Straw, as well as with two other local MPs, Graham Jones and Jake Berry.
The group then attended at a private 45-minute meeting with sports minister Hugh Robertson, who listened to their concerns about what’s happened to Rovers.
It is understood the fans passed over hundreds of pages of paperwork outlining their concerns, and asked if Robertson could investigate whether better football governance might have prevented the mess at Ewood Park.
It is understood that the group, together with the MPs, will prepare a specific list of questions about the ownership of the club, the influence upon the decision-making processes by external parties at different points, and how certain contracts were drawn up.
Robertson is believed to have promised that he will seek answers from the relevant authorities on these matters.
The fans had already had a private meeting with Premier League chief executive Richard Scudamore. Toda




y they met at Wembley with senior FA officials who work on compliance issues at the governing body.
Mullan told Sportingintelligence this evening: “We’re ecstatic simply to have had these meetings to state our concerns to people who have real power to help us find answers.
“To be able to go to Parliament and be given a platform to talk shows us that there are people willing to listen. We’ve handed over all kinds of information, and if the MPs, the FA, the Premier League or a combination of all of them can use their resources and expertise to help us find some answers, it will have been worth it.
“We’re just seeking honest answers to basic questions about our own football club. What we’re really pleased about this week is that people with clout are now putting their weight behind our cause.”
Aside from on-pitch failings that led to Rovers’ relegation, the fans’ major concerns revolve around where the power at Rovers really lies; why senior executives are apparently impotent in key decisions at the club; why Kean remains manager despite results over 18 months worse than many peers who’ve been fired while doing better; whether the authorities have any ongoing concerns over the way transfers have been conducted; and what if any concerns those authorities have had in the past 18 months.
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AN ARCHIVE OF Rovers STORIES IS HERE
Follow SPORTINGINTELLIGENCE on Twitter
Sportingintelligence home page
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Letter from Blackburn Rovers FC Action Group to Jerome Anderson, 6 June 2012
Dear Mr Anderson,
I’m writing to you today in the hope that you may be able to help Blackburn fans understand what is going on at our club.
Nobody with any connection or affection for the club can fail to see that something has gone very badly wrong at Rovers since Venky’s took over, although the exact reasons remain unclear.
We as fans have asked the club questions – no reply. We have asked the owners – no reply. We have asked for meetings with officials and with the manager – these meetings were promised and never happened.
We have asked everyone we can possibly think of for help in finding answers to basic questions about what has happened at Rovers in the past 18 months – and why.
It is in this spirit, of wanting simple, straight, honest information, which we appeal for your assistance in answering some questions for us. We ask you for several reasons, namely -
you are somebody who has acknowledged yourself that you were ‘inside’ Rovers for a least a short while, which is more than most of us.
you are agent of the manager, Steve Kean, who at times seems to the only person who knows what Mrs Desai is thinking, and we think it a reasonable assumption that therefore you will know much of what Steve Kean knows.
you have consistently said in public that you have the best interests of Rovers and the fans at heart. If this indeed is true, then please help us by answering the following questions.
 
Questions for Mr Anderson, the answers to which the fans of Blackburn feel will give us a much clearer picture of what has happened to our football club.
1: Could you clarify how you first got involved in the sale of Blackburn? Spec




ific
ally -
a: Who hired you to help find a buyer, and when, and who if anybody paid you a commission fee for the introduction?
b: When did you first meet anyone from Venky’s and / or the Rao family in person?
c: Did you or SEM or Kentaro have any previous business ties to Venky’s before the Blackburn takeover?
 
2: What role did you play in the hiring of Steve Kean as Blackburn’s manager? Specif




ical
ly -
a: Did you ever advise Venky’s that Sam Allardyce should be relieved of his job?
b: When did Steve Kean first meeting anyone from Venky’s, and Mrs Desai specifically?
c: Did you draw up, oversee or have any role in the preparation of Steve Kean’s management contract while you were working for Venky’s?
 
3: Steve Kean was arrested for drinking driving in May 2011 – and later convicted. Kean’s belief was fans spiked his drink, a view that alienated many supporters. News of Kean’s arrest was first widely reported on 17 May 2011, exactly the same day that The Sun ran a big story about Gael Givet and alleged irregular payments made to a contact of Sam Allardyce’s around Givet’s transfer.
a: Did you have any prior knowledge that The Sun were going to run this story on Allardyce?
b: And as the agent of the incumbent manager at the time, did The Sun ask for your opinion of one or both stories – Steve Kean’s arrest and the Givet story?
NB: the point of asking you this question is to ascertain how much media negativity is media-driven for lurid stories, and how much is genuine public interest stories. As someone highly experienced in dealing with media, we welcome your insight.
 
4: It has been reported, and confirmed, that the Premier League vetoed – at least initially – the move of Mauro Formica to Blackburn because of a ‘third party ownership’ issue around the player. You yourself have spoken about working tirelessly for Rovers through the January 2011 transfer window in which Formica eventually moved, so:
a: What exactly was the third party issue with Formica?
b: Who owned him, if it wasn’t Newell’s Old Boys, when the deal was first proposed?
c: How many transfer deals, incoming to Blackburn or outgoing from Rovers, were you personally involved with during the January 2011 window?
d: What was your specific involvement in those deals and were you paid regular agents’ fees? Or flat commissions for helping Venky’s? Or nothing because you just wanted to assist them?
e: A leaked letter from John Williams et al written in January 2011 suggested the ‘old board’ were not happy with mandates being given to you / SEM during that period. Were you aware of their concerns?
f: It has been reported an associate of yours was paid a large agent’s fee when Rochina moved and the agent in question has confirmed you worked together on that deal. Did you receive money from that deal?
g: If Formica’s deal was stopped because of third party involvement, was there originally a plan to bring other players in with third party ownership?
h: Are you aware of the Premier League preventing any other transfer deals in or out of Blackburn, after the Formica deal?
i: It is widely believed that Steve Kean has had only marginal involvement in Rovers transfer deals and Venky’s have been using a variety of inexperienced advisors and unconventional methods to get players since January 2011. Can you confirm what you know about this? And why has Steve Kean never gone public about this apparent lack of influence?
 
5: Do you or Steve Kean have any share in Rovers or options to have any shares in Rovers, or own any shares in any Venky’s company or subsidiary, or any agreement that gives you an option on any such shares, now or in the future?
 
6: In your interview on Sky in January, you said you’d had no business dealings with Venky’s since January 2011 but reports from fans claim you attended a meeting in Pune in October 2011 between Ian Battersby and Ian Currie, and Mrs Desai. Is that true? If so, what was the purpose and outcome of that meeting?
 
7: In your Sky interview you suggested that the protests were ‘too well organised’ and ‘darker forces’ were at work. Could you specify what you meant? We as fans want the best for our club. You have said you want the best for your club. We appeal to you for openness and transparency on what you meant so we can all tackle any ‘darker forces’ together.
 
8: Your solicitors issued a legal notice to me, asking for me not to discuss you in forthcoming BRFC Action Group activities. This was surprising considering you have refused to answer any prior communication or invitation we have sent you to discuss our club. Once again, in the spirit of all of use trying to do the best for Blackburn, can we arrange to meet please?
 
9: Steve Kean and Venky’s have both had legal letters from Sam Allardyce’s lawyers in relation to the video of Steve Kean filmed in Hong Kong. What is Steve Kean’s stance on what he said in that video?
 
10: Do you feel Venky’s have been good custodians of Rovers?
 
Kindest Regards
Glen Mullan
Can anyone really see Anderson hanging himself by answering any of these questions? Particularly after the vitriol he has received from the vast majority of supporters.

Do me a favour Glen you are clutching at some small straws now
Why not ask the Walker trust about the events leading up to the sale of rovers and the dealings they had with Anderson
Totally agree with asking the Walker trust, Andy Cryer has asked them but they wont comment
I agree as well. but it was not three days of meetings it was more like a ten minute meeting with an F.a tea boy and m.p's rent boy before they got bored with the scruffy tramps and asked them to leave

The rest of the time was spent on travel, its a long haul back from london, a pony can only run at slow speed pulling a heavy caravan weighed down with tramps and stolen led.
4: It has been reported, and confirmed, that the Premier League vetoed – at least initially – the move of Mauro Formica to Blackburn because of a ‘third party ownership’ issue around the player. You yourself have spoken about working tirelessly for Rovers through the January 2011 transfer window in which Formica eventually moved, so:
a: What exactly was the third party issue with Formica?

Am I missing something here, You have met with the FA to ask them to ask Anderson what the FA `s concerns were

Just ask the FA
[quote][p][bold]nontetleysdog[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hippocroccapig[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kazz[/bold] wrote: As a group of Blackburn fans return to Lancashire this evening after three days of meetings in London with MPs and the FA about the plight of their club, Sportingintelligence publishes a letter, in full below, sent last week by the same campaigners to Jerome Anderson, the agent of Rovers’ manager, Steve Kean. The letter appeals to Anderson for help, seeking answers to 23 questions relating to why Blackburn has been run in the way it has since Venky’s took over. Glen Mullan, the chair of the BRFC Action Group, writes in the letter: “You have consistently said in public that you have the best interests of Rovers and the fans at heart. If this indeed is true, then please help.” The letters seeks clarity about the precise role that Anderson played at the club. Anderson has spoken about sleeping at the training ground as he worked on club business in January 2011. Anderson has consistently and strenuously insisted that he has had no hands-on role at Blackburn whatsoever since the end of the January 2011 transfer window. Mullan explains in the letter that the fans are frustrated at a lack of answers from anyone connected with the club, hence the appeal to Anderson. No response has been forthcoming yet. On Wednesday, the Action Group met in Westminster with lifelong Rovers fan and local MP, Jack Straw, as well as with two other local MPs, Graham Jones and Jake Berry. The group then attended at a private 45-minute meeting with sports minister Hugh Robertson, who listened to their concerns about what’s happened to Rovers. It is understood the fans passed over hundreds of pages of paperwork outlining their concerns, and asked if Robertson could investigate whether better football governance might have prevented the mess at Ewood Park. It is understood that the group, together with the MPs, will prepare a specific list of questions about the ownership of the club, the influence upon the decision-making processes by external parties at different points, and how certain contracts were drawn up. Robertson is believed to have promised that he will seek answers from the relevant authorities on these matters. The fans had already had a private meeting with Premier League chief executive Richard Scudamore. Toda y they met at Wembley with senior FA officials who work on compliance issues at the governing body. Mullan told Sportingintelligence this evening: “We’re ecstatic simply to have had these meetings to state our concerns to people who have real power to help us find answers. “To be able to go to Parliament and be given a platform to talk shows us that there are people willing to listen. We’ve handed over all kinds of information, and if the MPs, the FA, the Premier League or a combination of all of them can use their resources and expertise to help us find some answers, it will have been worth it. “We’re just seeking honest answers to basic questions about our own football club. What we’re really pleased about this week is that people with clout are now putting their weight behind our cause.” Aside from on-pitch failings that led to Rovers’ relegation, the fans’ major concerns revolve around where the power at Rovers really lies; why senior executives are apparently impotent in key decisions at the club; why Kean remains manager despite results over 18 months worse than many peers who’ve been fired while doing better; whether the authorities have any ongoing concerns over the way transfers have been conducted; and what if any concerns those authorities have had in the past 18 months. . AN ARCHIVE OF Rovers STORIES IS HERE Follow SPORTINGINTELLIGENCE on Twitter Sportingintelligence home page . Letter from Blackburn Rovers FC Action Group to Jerome Anderson, 6 June 2012 Dear Mr Anderson, I’m writing to you today in the hope that you may be able to help Blackburn fans understand what is going on at our club. Nobody with any connection or affection for the club can fail to see that something has gone very badly wrong at Rovers since Venky’s took over, although the exact reasons remain unclear. We as fans have asked the club questions – no reply. We have asked the owners – no reply. We have asked for meetings with officials and with the manager – these meetings were promised and never happened. We have asked everyone we can possibly think of for help in finding answers to basic questions about what has happened at Rovers in the past 18 months – and why. It is in this spirit, of wanting simple, straight, honest information, which we appeal for your assistance in answering some questions for us. We ask you for several reasons, namely - you are somebody who has acknowledged yourself that you were ‘inside’ Rovers for a least a short while, which is more than most of us. you are agent of the manager, Steve Kean, who at times seems to the only person who knows what Mrs Desai is thinking, and we think it a reasonable assumption that therefore you will know much of what Steve Kean knows. you have consistently said in public that you have the best interests of Rovers and the fans at heart. If this indeed is true, then please help us by answering the following questions.   Questions for Mr Anderson, the answers to which the fans of Blackburn feel will give us a much clearer picture of what has happened to our football club. 1: Could you clarify how you first got involved in the sale of Blackburn? Spec ific ally - a: Who hired you to help find a buyer, and when, and who if anybody paid you a commission fee for the introduction? b: When did you first meet anyone from Venky’s and / or the Rao family in person? c: Did you or SEM or Kentaro have any previous business ties to Venky’s before the Blackburn takeover?   2: What role did you play in the hiring of Steve Kean as Blackburn’s manager? Specif ical ly - a: Did you ever advise Venky’s that Sam Allardyce should be relieved of his job? b: When did Steve Kean first meeting anyone from Venky’s, and Mrs Desai specifically? c: Did you draw up, oversee or have any role in the preparation of Steve Kean’s management contract while you were working for Venky’s?   3: Steve Kean was arrested for drinking driving in May 2011 – and later convicted. Kean’s belief was fans spiked his drink, a view that alienated many supporters. News of Kean’s arrest was first widely reported on 17 May 2011, exactly the same day that The Sun ran a big story about Gael Givet and alleged irregular payments made to a contact of Sam Allardyce’s around Givet’s transfer. a: Did you have any prior knowledge that The Sun were going to run this story on Allardyce? b: And as the agent of the incumbent manager at the time, did The Sun ask for your opinion of one or both stories – Steve Kean’s arrest and the Givet story? NB: the point of asking you this question is to ascertain how much media negativity is media-driven for lurid stories, and how much is genuine public interest stories. As someone highly experienced in dealing with media, we welcome your insight.   4: It has been reported, and confirmed, that the Premier League vetoed – at least initially – the move of Mauro Formica to Blackburn because of a ‘third party ownership’ issue around the player. You yourself have spoken about working tirelessly for Rovers through the January 2011 transfer window in which Formica eventually moved, so: a: What exactly was the third party issue with Formica? b: Who owned him, if it wasn’t Newell’s Old Boys, when the deal was first proposed? c: How many transfer deals, incoming to Blackburn or outgoing from Rovers, were you personally involved with during the January 2011 window? d: What was your specific involvement in those deals and were you paid regular agents’ fees? Or flat commissions for helping Venky’s? Or nothing because you just wanted to assist them? e: A leaked letter from John Williams et al written in January 2011 suggested the ‘old board’ were not happy with mandates being given to you / SEM during that period. Were you aware of their concerns? f: It has been reported an associate of yours was paid a large agent’s fee when Rochina moved and the agent in question has confirmed you worked together on that deal. Did you receive money from that deal? g: If Formica’s deal was stopped because of third party involvement, was there originally a plan to bring other players in with third party ownership? h: Are you aware of the Premier League preventing any other transfer deals in or out of Blackburn, after the Formica deal? i: It is widely believed that Steve Kean has had only marginal involvement in Rovers transfer deals and Venky’s have been using a variety of inexperienced advisors and unconventional methods to get players since January 2011. Can you confirm what you know about this? And why has Steve Kean never gone public about this apparent lack of influence?   5: Do you or Steve Kean have any share in Rovers or options to have any shares in Rovers, or own any shares in any Venky’s company or subsidiary, or any agreement that gives you an option on any such shares, now or in the future?   6: In your interview on Sky in January, you said you’d had no business dealings with Venky’s since January 2011 but reports from fans claim you attended a meeting in Pune in October 2011 between Ian Battersby and Ian Currie, and Mrs Desai. Is that true? If so, what was the purpose and outcome of that meeting?   7: In your Sky interview you suggested that the protests were ‘too well organised’ and ‘darker forces’ were at work. Could you specify what you meant? We as fans want the best for our club. You have said you want the best for your club. We appeal to you for openness and transparency on what you meant so we can all tackle any ‘darker forces’ together.   8: Your solicitors issued a legal notice to me, asking for me not to discuss you in forthcoming BRFC Action Group activities. This was surprising considering you have refused to answer any prior communication or invitation we have sent you to discuss our club. Once again, in the spirit of all of use trying to do the best for Blackburn, can we arrange to meet please?   9: Steve Kean and Venky’s have both had legal letters from Sam Allardyce’s lawyers in relation to the video of Steve Kean filmed in Hong Kong. What is Steve Kean’s stance on what he said in that video?   10: Do you feel Venky’s have been good custodians of Rovers?   Kindest Regards Glen Mullan[/p][/quote]Can anyone really see Anderson hanging himself by answering any of these questions? Particularly after the vitriol he has received from the vast majority of supporters. Do me a favour Glen you are clutching at some small straws now[/p][/quote]Why not ask the Walker trust about the events leading up to the sale of rovers and the dealings they had with Anderson[/p][/quote]Totally agree with asking the Walker trust, Andy Cryer has asked them but they wont comment[/p][/quote]I agree as well. but it was not three days of meetings it was more like a ten minute meeting with an F.a tea boy and m.p's rent boy before they got bored with the scruffy tramps and asked them to leave The rest of the time was spent on travel, its a long haul back from london, a pony can only run at slow speed pulling a heavy caravan weighed down with tramps and stolen led.[/p][/quote]4: It has been reported, and confirmed, that the Premier League vetoed – at least initially – the move of Mauro Formica to Blackburn because of a ‘third party ownership’ issue around the player. You yourself have spoken about working tirelessly for Rovers through the January 2011 transfer window in which Formica eventually moved, so: a: What exactly was the third party issue with Formica? Am I missing something here, You have met with the FA to ask them to ask Anderson what the FA `s concerns were Just ask the FA fickle fan
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6:26pm Sun 17 Jun 12

rovers11-12 says...

How embarrassing that representives of the Rovers fans have asked so many pointless questions.

Such as who hired you to find a buyer for the Rovers. Now let me think who could that be.

Most of the questions involving agents and players should be on official record with the FA as only recognised agents can be involved so an FA offical could give that answer unless it is private business and none of your business.

Does part 3 count as evidence against SA in any libel case against SK and how can he answer for SK in regards to any future court case.
How embarrassing that representives of the Rovers fans have asked so many pointless questions. Such as who hired you to find a buyer for the Rovers. Now let me think who could that be. Most of the questions involving agents and players should be on official record with the FA as only recognised agents can be involved so an FA offical could give that answer unless it is private business and none of your business. Does part 3 count as evidence against SA in any libel case against SK and how can he answer for SK in regards to any future court case. rovers11-12
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