Blackburn Rovers fans group to make investigation plea to Premier League chief (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Well that's a waste of time. They're only interested in what's best for the big boys.

Hope it works my theory on how they acquired the club without breaking any of the rules and make money from it is they bought the club paid off the debt give the agents a large percentage of deals that they arrange in return the agents give some of the money back to Venky's that way they can actually make money from transfers etc.

It would explain why we paid so much agent fees and it would also explain why people like Anderson where ever involved in the club.

So when they are cutting the 'wage budget' they would be also make a sly profit it would also explain why they are desperate to keep the club because they wouldn't have got a return from their investment yet.

Unfortunately for us there is probably no way of ever tracing this.

I truly hope that there is some positive outcome from this. Since the Appointment of BRFC's new director of communications, there has been complete silence???

Being overseas I read everything available re Rovers, and of course keep in touch with family and friends, last night I was speaking to a woman I was in school with over 35 yrs ago, she later married one of my best friends, she was telling me of the constant gloom that overhangs their house since the advent of Kean/Venky's, and the rows that are now taking place as her husband feels he must stay away but her son believes the way forward is to "get behind the team" I wonder if Kean/Venky's are aware of the damage they are causing? or if they even care???

Good luck lads, can't see much coming out of this but at least he's prepared to listen! Then again we are talking to a man who proposed the 39th game..

They will not launch an investigation as this could potentially unearth irregularities, which may be good for us but damning for their ‘Fit and Proper test. They will not fall on their sword for lil’ole Blackburn, we aint big enough for them to make huge sums of money off!!!

Peter Scudamore will not give a rat's arse about Blackburn Rovers from now on in. He looks after the premiership and we are in the championship....putt
ing it quite simply from Scudamore's perspective - WE ARE SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROBLEM.
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No doubt, he will listen and nod and give lots of positive vibes - but he does not give a monkeys, no matter how well argued the points from those attending the meeting.
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Quite simply, the fit and proper persons test is nothing of the sort - look at Pompey, Saints, Dirties even City under a previous regime. The only criteria seems to be do you have a bit of cash? There was all sorts of talk a few years back about tightening up on FAPPT -but nowt seems to have been changed.
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The only hope would appear to be that in future takeovers there are certain guarantees given - but ultimately venkys (if indeed they do own rovers) are free to keep kean on as a manager, dump JW, allardyce, Finn and stick two fingers up at everyone in blackburn (if they so wish).
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Personally, i dont reckon our owners are asset strippers - i just think they were sold a puppy by bad advice down in london and have proved to be totally incompetent at managing a business from afar. the sooner they are gone the better.....but as porstsmouth can testify - the next lot may well be worse.

StLedge wrote:
They will not launch an investigation as this could potentially unearth irregularities, which may be good for us but damning for their ‘Fit and Proper test. They will not fall on their sword for lil’ole Blackburn, we aint big enough for them to make huge sums of money off!!!

Precisely...

I suspect he will give them answers like a politician would. He'll skirt round the main issues.
Do the Venk's own the club. Whay were the banks moved to India,simple answer if an investigation is launched it will be almost impossible to gain access to the accounts.
Are clubs not obliged to provide accounts to the powers that be.
Just heard a rumour that Newshams replacement is Keans security man.
That man is going nowhere but a Police cell eventually.

Scudamore attended Kingsfield School in Kingswood, Bristol, where he was Head Boy in his final year and which he left in 1977 -:

Look he's not one of us! He's posh, from the south, and shouldnt even be discussing our club!

We need to get back to basics and have BLACKBURN players playing in a NORTH/MIDLANDS league. Just like it was in 1888:-

Accrington
Aston Villaa
Blackburn Rovers
Bolton Wanderers
Burnley
Derby County
Everton
Notts County
Preston North End
Stoke
West Bromwich Albion
Wolverhampton Wanderers

I see Preston have signed 11 that's ELEVEN new players.
Let's give Kean more time then we can hit the ground running in August! It's in what direction we run that worries me.
GET REAL Dunn- still waiting for an apology to the fans!!!!!

makaveli96 wrote:
Scudamore attended Kingsfield School in Kingswood, Bristol, where he was Head Boy in his final year and which he left in 1977 -:

Look he's not one of us! He's posh, from the south, and shouldnt even be discussing our club!

We need to get back to basics and have BLACKBURN players playing in a NORTH/MIDLANDS league. Just like it was in 1888:-

Accrington
Aston Villaa
Blackburn Rovers
Bolton Wanderers
Burnley
Derby County
Everton
Notts County
Preston North End
Stoke
West Bromwich Albion
Wolverhampton Wanderers

Like the idea but there are too many professional teams in the north and midlands.

Never mind the semi-professional teams maybe a north/midlands cup but then again it probably wouldn't be taken seriously like the Lancashire Cup.

Just a thought but seeing as Rovers are now a Football League club and not a Premier league club, perhaps Glen and the team should be engaging them. They have different rules with regards ownership that the Premier League.

The absolute best of luck today fellas.

Being realistic, it might not get anywhere today, but pretty much the whole of Blackburn is thankful for your efforts to get something done to get these parasites away from our club.

The Premier leagues approach to this is to let the crisis clubs be relegated and then its the FA's problem.
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This doesnt change the fact that Blackburn Rovers were purchased when they were in the premier league by the Venky's.
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The group should go higher and higher to UEFA next if we dont get any joy, because the Venkys are not fit and proper people and should not have been allowed to purchase the football club.

there is alot of effort from decent blackburn folk coming from all these meetings, for that us fans must be grateful and good luck

where is our director of communications, helloooooooooooooooo
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oooooooooooooooo! are you there, speak to us,hellooooooooooooo
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oo! are you there......i bet if any of us were slanderous it would be heard, now thats a coincidence. You make me puke!!!!!!

Shear_Brilliance wrote:
Hope it works my theory on how they acquired the club without breaking any of the rules and make money from it is they bought the club paid off the debt give the agents a large percentage of deals that they arrange in return the agents give some of the money back to Venky's that way they can actually make money from transfers etc. It would explain why we paid so much agent fees and it would also explain why people like Anderson where ever involved in the club. So when they are cutting the 'wage budget' they would be also make a sly profit it would also explain why they are desperate to keep the club because they wouldn't have got a return from their investment yet. Unfortunately for us there is probably no way of ever tracing this.

A good lawyer would be able to find something which shows illegal activity...we all know illegal activity has occured both in the purchase of the club and subsequent running of the club. A good lawyer if we had access to one would be able to prove this.

oh and any burnley fans reading this - fcuk off you dingle barstewards!!!you are scum and i hate you.

hasslem hasslem wrote:
Peter Scudamore will not give a rat's arse about Blackburn Rovers from now on in. He looks after the premiership and we are in the championship....putt ing it quite simply from Scudamore's perspective - WE ARE SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROBLEM. . No doubt, he will listen and nod and give lots of positive vibes - but he does not give a monkeys, no matter how well argued the points from those attending the meeting. . Quite simply, the fit and proper persons test is nothing of the sort - look at Pompey, Saints, Dirties even City under a previous regime. The only criteria seems to be do you have a bit of cash? There was all sorts of talk a few years back about tightening up on FAPPT -but nowt seems to have been changed. . The only hope would appear to be that in future takeovers there are certain guarantees given - but ultimately venkys (if indeed they do own rovers) are free to keep kean on as a manager, dump JW, allardyce, Finn and stick two fingers up at everyone in blackburn (if they so wish). . Personally, i dont reckon our owners are asset strippers - i just think they were sold a puppy by bad advice down in london and have proved to be totally incompetent at managing a business from afar. the sooner they are gone the better.....but as porstsmouth can testify - the next lot may well be worse.

You really need to take a reality check......can't believe the 'poo' that you write

The comment about taking the matter to UEFA might be sensible. They might also want to look into the acquisition of Racing Santander by Ahsan Ali Syed (remember him just before Venky's?) and their rapid demise. Is it a coincidence or could there be something more to it?

Its useless everyone thinks we are are only complaining because we were relegated they do not understand we have been complaining since the Indians took us over.
The fact is we are concerned how a group of hillibillies can just come in and purchase a Premiership club when it was obvious from their corporate accounts they could not afford to maintain that level of financial committment.

A bit of a rant - so i apologise.
now the dingles have gone back down their hole - maybe we can have a more constructive analysis and commentary on things rovers.
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it is now 22 days since we were formally relegated - although all rovers supporters knew it was inevitable from when we got beat by a shockingly bad horwich side way back in march.
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so what have we learned?
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1)....our wonderful manager never thought we would get relegated (funny, i thought it was on your "to do list") and now believes he is the man to take up right back up at the first time of asking and that it will be one step backwards to take two steps forward
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2)...following relegation we were leaked a letter from our deputy chief exec (who is the chief exec) from before christmas which tells us among other things that the club is in a desperate state, got no direction, being left to wither on the vine and our wonderful manager has not only lost the supporters bit the dressing room too. THIS WAS LESS THAN HALF-WAY THROUGH THE SEASON!!!!
4) ...that paul hunt got fired for telling the truth
5)...our wonderful manager enjoys a chinese lager, has tourettes, thinks sam allardyce is a crook, believes he discovered phil jones and that we were going to win the league cup (remember we threw that particular competition)
6)....for steve kean it is possible to fly out to india to have two days of talks with our beloved owners and for nothing to be said about any outcome.
7) our wonderful press officer has done such a good job that he has been promoted to director of communications and immediately slithered down a rat-hole and singularly failed to communicate one soupcon on communication
8) that our longstanding stadium manager has been given his cards - not resigned. and we understand to be replaced by steve kean's bodyguard (previously called his driver - before our wonderful manager told us he needed 24/7 protection)
9).....that our wonderful owners are still in a state of shock over our relegation (wonder why that is anudraha, venketesh and balaji - is that cos your pal the tourettes suffering, drink driving, lying, incompetent chum said it would never happen...and you believed him!!!.
equally we are assured that by venketesh that whatever it costs we will get back into the premiership...but there are no decisions to be made at least for a month.
10) our top scorer last season has said it is important that everybody at the club sticks together, whilst issuing an "I'm off" statement - does that mean that yak has issued an "abandon ship" notice...."mercenari
es and fly-by-nights first"
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WHAT THE BLUE BLAZES IS GOING ON?
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It's bad enough supporters knowing nothing - - but I am reliably told that nobody who works at the club has a clue what is going to happen even tomorrow. Our club is in total meltdown.
We have owners who are know nothing about football, the club, the town or its supporters and will only listen to one person
We have a manager who seems to have no concept in how to manage
We have a director of communications who has no intention of communicating.
We have an administrative body the PL that does not give a monkey's chuff about what is happening to blackburn rovers
We have no chairman
We have no chief exec
We have very few season ticket subscribers
We have a local media (LT and Radio Lancs) that get nothing out of the Venkys, Kean or Agnew.
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Anybody on here reckon we will go straight back up?

roverinmanchstr wrote:

hasslem hasslem wrote:
Peter Scudamore will not give a rat's arse about Blackburn Rovers from now on in. He looks after the premiership and we are in the championship....putt ing it quite simply from Scudamore's perspective - WE ARE SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROBLEM. . No doubt, he will listen and nod and give lots of positive vibes - but he does not give a monkeys, no matter how well argued the points from those attending the meeting. . Quite simply, the fit and proper persons test is nothing of the sort - look at Pompey, Saints, Dirties even City under a previous regime. The only criteria seems to be do you have a bit of cash? There was all sorts of talk a few years back about tightening up on FAPPT -but nowt seems to have been changed. . The only hope would appear to be that in future takeovers there are certain guarantees given - but ultimately venkys (if indeed they do own rovers) are free to keep kean on as a manager, dump JW, allardyce, Finn and stick two fingers up at everyone in blackburn (if they so wish). . Personally, i dont reckon our owners are asset strippers - i just think they were sold a puppy by bad advice down in london and have proved to be totally incompetent at managing a business from afar. the sooner they are gone the better.....but as porstsmouth can testify - the next lot may well be worse.

You really need to take a reality check......can't believe the 'poo' that you write

thanks for the constructive comment about needing a reality check - perhaps you could enlighten me with your wonderful insight into what is going on? and equally is all of it poo, or just little bits of it?

On too many occaisions to recall I have been walking up Cravens Brow discussing the match I had just seen with family/friends or even the guy just walking next to me... I bet we all been in the situation where you think to yourself "did we watch the same match?"
At least when the Venky's/Kean do finally leave, all the supporters of BRFC will be able to say as one... " WE WERE ROBBED"

hasslem hasslem wrote:

roverinmanchstr wrote:

hasslem hasslem wrote: Peter Scudamore will not give a rat's arse about Blackburn Rovers from now on in. He looks after the premiership and we are in the championship....putt ing it quite simply from Scudamore's perspective - WE ARE SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROBLEM. . No doubt, he will listen and nod and give lots of positive vibes - but he does not give a monkeys, no matter how well argued the points from those attending the meeting. . Quite simply, the fit and proper persons test is nothing of the sort - look at Pompey, Saints, Dirties even City under a previous regime. The only criteria seems to be do you have a bit of cash? There was all sorts of talk a few years back about tightening up on FAPPT -but nowt seems to have been changed. . The only hope would appear to be that in future takeovers there are certain guarantees given - but ultimately venkys (if indeed they do own rovers) are free to keep kean on as a manager, dump JW, allardyce, Finn and stick two fingers up at everyone in blackburn (if they so wish). . Personally, i dont reckon our owners are asset strippers - i just think they were sold a puppy by bad advice down in london and have proved to be totally incompetent at managing a business from afar. the sooner they are gone the better.....but as porstsmouth can testify - the next lot may well be worse.

You really need to take a reality check......can't believe the 'poo' that you write

thanks for the constructive comment about needing a reality check - perhaps you could enlighten me with your wonderful insight into what is going on? and equally is all of it poo, or just little bits of it?

really, do I have to!!!!! !!!!!!
just sit down close your eyes and memorise a summary of what has happened or better still what hasn't happened since their take over. ....
I'm not going to spell it out for you

roverinmanchstr wrote:

hasslem hasslem wrote:

roverinmanchstr wrote:

hasslem hasslem wrote: Peter Scudamore will not give a rat's arse about Blackburn Rovers from now on in. He looks after the premiership and we are in the championship....putt ing it quite simply from Scudamore's perspective - WE ARE SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROBLEM. . No doubt, he will listen and nod and give lots of positive vibes - but he does not give a monkeys, no matter how well argued the points from those attending the meeting. . Quite simply, the fit and proper persons test is nothing of the sort - look at Pompey, Saints, Dirties even City under a previous regime. The only criteria seems to be do you have a bit of cash? There was all sorts of talk a few years back about tightening up on FAPPT -but nowt seems to have been changed. . The only hope would appear to be that in future takeovers there are certain guarantees given - but ultimately venkys (if indeed they do own rovers) are free to keep kean on as a manager, dump JW, allardyce, Finn and stick two fingers up at everyone in blackburn (if they so wish). . Personally, i dont reckon our owners are asset strippers - i just think they were sold a puppy by bad advice down in london and have proved to be totally incompetent at managing a business from afar. the sooner they are gone the better.....but as porstsmouth can testify - the next lot may well be worse.

You really need to take a reality check......can't believe the 'poo' that you write

thanks for the constructive comment about needing a reality check - perhaps you could enlighten me with your wonderful insight into what is going on? and equally is all of it poo, or just little bits of it?

really, do I have to!!!!! !!!!!!
just sit down close your eyes and memorise a summary of what has happened or better still what hasn't happened since their take over. ....
I'm not going to spell it out for you

i don't normally get involved in slagging off other contributors (unless its someone who says another rovers supporter should get cancer) - but i cannot believe the poo that you write.

good luck and hope there is some result out of it...

makaveli96 wrote:
Scudamore attended Kingsfield School in Kingswood, Bristol, where he was Head Boy in his final year and which he left in 1977 -:

Look he's not one of us! He's posh, from the south, and shouldnt even be discussing our club!

We need to get back to basics and have BLACKBURN players playing in a NORTH/MIDLANDS league. Just like it was in 1888:-

Accrington
Aston Villaa
Blackburn Rovers
Bolton Wanderers
Burnley
Derby County
Everton
Notts County
Preston North End
Stoke
West Bromwich Albion
Wolverhampton Wanderers

So on that basis (even though football is traditionally the 'working man's game') we shouldn't support our historic club then?

Founded by former Public Schoolboys!

roverinmanchstr wrote:

hasslem hasslem wrote:
Peter Scudamore will not give a rat's arse about Blackburn Rovers from now on in. He looks after the premiership and we are in the championship....putt ing it quite simply from Scudamore's perspective - WE ARE SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROBLEM. . No doubt, he will listen and nod and give lots of positive vibes - but he does not give a monkeys, no matter how well argued the points from those attending the meeting. . Quite simply, the fit and proper persons test is nothing of the sort - look at Pompey, Saints, Dirties even City under a previous regime. The only criteria seems to be do you have a bit of cash? There was all sorts of talk a few years back about tightening up on FAPPT -but nowt seems to have been changed. . The only hope would appear to be that in future takeovers there are certain guarantees given - but ultimately venkys (if indeed they do own rovers) are free to keep kean on as a manager, dump JW, allardyce, Finn and stick two fingers up at everyone in blackburn (if they so wish). . Personally, i dont reckon our owners are asset strippers - i just think they were sold a puppy by bad advice down in london and have proved to be totally incompetent at managing a business from afar. the sooner they are gone the better.....but as porstsmouth can testify - the next lot may well be worse.

You really need to take a reality check......can't believe the 'poo' that you write

Has to be "controversial"

Malcontent, misfit and oddball more likely.

Has to disagree with everyone. Posts long banal comments. I haven't even read it, learned to scroll past them quite a long time ago now.

Probabaly a sock puppet... multiple account holder who posts a number of differing opinions and then sits back and watches the fall out.

I've come on here today and so far not a single Dingle... just straightforward footie talk.

Great. This fella wants the Burnley fans back.

Keans spiel to potential new signings- replace the parrot in Monty Pythons parrot sketch with Blackburn Rovers.
"It's not dead. It's just sleeping. Promotion and a cup. Beautiful away strip. We've 15000 season tickets. This is venkys baby." etc. etc.

The destruction of Darlington FC and why it should matter to all of football - especially Rovers:

http://www.darlofc.c
o.uk/news.php?NewsID
=923

Waste of time this man is in a comfort zone. No way will he rock the big boy's boat.Scudamore could not care less about the Rover's or any other small club, This man is a yes man to the big club's and Sky.

thommovat wrote:
The comment about taking the matter to UEFA might be sensible. They might also want to look into the acquisition of Racing Santander by Ahsan Ali Syed (remember him just before Venky's?) and their rapid demise. Is it a coincidence or could there be something more to it?

Good points.

Does anyone have any knowledge of Racing Santender, i believe that the similarities and connection between Indians, Anderson and their subsequent demise are frighteningly similar?

Cumbrian Blue wrote:

makaveli96 wrote:
Scudamore attended Kingsfield School in Kingswood, Bristol, where he was Head Boy in his final year and which he left in 1977 -:

Look he's not one of us! He's posh, from the south, and shouldnt even be discussing our club!

We need to get back to basics and have BLACKBURN players playing in a NORTH/MIDLANDS league. Just like it was in 1888:-

Accrington
Aston Villaa
Blackburn Rovers
Bolton Wanderers
Burnley
Derby County
Everton
Notts County
Preston North End
Stoke
West Bromwich Albion
Wolverhampton Wanderers

So on that basis (even though football is traditionally the 'working man's game') we shouldn't support our historic club then?

Founded by former Public Schoolboys!

Indeed, however it was the working-class players who moved over from Blackburn Olympic and a working-class Scottish manager that guided the club to greatness in it's formative years making Blackburn Rovers the first giants of the English game.

roverinmanchstr wrote:

hasslem hasslem wrote:

roverinmanchstr wrote:

hasslem hasslem wrote: Peter Scudamore will not give a rat's arse about Blackburn Rovers from now on in. He looks after the premiership and we are in the championship....putt ing it quite simply from Scudamore's perspective - WE ARE SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROBLEM. . No doubt, he will listen and nod and give lots of positive vibes - but he does not give a monkeys, no matter how well argued the points from those attending the meeting. . Quite simply, the fit and proper persons test is nothing of the sort - look at Pompey, Saints, Dirties even City under a previous regime. The only criteria seems to be do you have a bit of cash? There was all sorts of talk a few years back about tightening up on FAPPT -but nowt seems to have been changed. . The only hope would appear to be that in future takeovers there are certain guarantees given - but ultimately venkys (if indeed they do own rovers) are free to keep kean on as a manager, dump JW, allardyce, Finn and stick two fingers up at everyone in blackburn (if they so wish). . Personally, i dont reckon our owners are asset strippers - i just think they were sold a puppy by bad advice down in london and have proved to be totally incompetent at managing a business from afar. the sooner they are gone the better.....but as porstsmouth can testify - the next lot may well be worse.

You really need to take a reality check......can't believe the 'poo' that you write

thanks for the constructive comment about needing a reality check - perhaps you could enlighten me with your wonderful insight into what is going on? and equally is all of it poo, or just little bits of it?

really, do I have to!!!!! !!!!!!
just sit down close your eyes and memorise a summary of what has happened or better still what hasn't happened since their take over. ....
I'm not going to spell it out for you

You need to spell it out to me, cos I don't quite know what point you're trying to make, please.

BlueSkies wrote:

roverinmanchstr wrote:

hasslem hasslem wrote:

roverinmanchstr wrote:

hasslem hasslem wrote: Peter Scudamore will not give a rat's arse about Blackburn Rovers from now on in. He looks after the premiership and we are in the championship....putt ing it quite simply from Scudamore's perspective - WE ARE SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROBLEM. . No doubt, he will listen and nod and give lots of positive vibes - but he does not give a monkeys, no matter how well argued the points from those attending the meeting. . Quite simply, the fit and proper persons test is nothing of the sort - look at Pompey, Saints, Dirties even City under a previous regime. The only criteria seems to be do you have a bit of cash? There was all sorts of talk a few years back about tightening up on FAPPT -but nowt seems to have been changed. . The only hope would appear to be that in future takeovers there are certain guarantees given - but ultimately venkys (if indeed they do own rovers) are free to keep kean on as a manager, dump JW, allardyce, Finn and stick two fingers up at everyone in blackburn (if they so wish). . Personally, i dont reckon our owners are asset strippers - i just think they were sold a puppy by bad advice down in london and have proved to be totally incompetent at managing a business from afar. the sooner they are gone the better.....but as porstsmouth can testify - the next lot may well be worse.

You really need to take a reality check......can't believe the 'poo' that you write

thanks for the constructive comment about needing a reality check - perhaps you could enlighten me with your wonderful insight into what is going on? and equally is all of it poo, or just little bits of it?

really, do I have to!!!!! !!!!!!
just sit down close your eyes and memorise a summary of what has happened or better still what hasn't happened since their take over. ....
I'm not going to spell it out for you

You need to spell it out to me, cos I don't quite know what point you're trying to make, please.

Inane drivel from HH.

DaBoss wrote:
The destruction of Darlington FC and why it should matter to all of football - especially Rovers:

http://www.darlofc.c

o.uk/news.php?NewsID

=923

I HAVE HEARD OF THIS.

Think a local gangster bought the club. Thanks for the link, i'll read it later.

BRFC The Peoples Champions wrote:

Cumbrian Blue wrote:

makaveli96 wrote:
Scudamore attended Kingsfield School in Kingswood, Bristol, where he was Head Boy in his final year and which he left in 1977 -:

Look he's not one of us! He's posh, from the south, and shouldnt even be discussing our club!

We need to get back to basics and have BLACKBURN players playing in a NORTH/MIDLANDS league. Just like it was in 1888:-

Accrington
Aston Villaa
Blackburn Rovers
Bolton Wanderers
Burnley
Derby County
Everton
Notts County
Preston North End
Stoke
West Bromwich Albion
Wolverhampton Wanderers

So on that basis (even though football is traditionally the 'working man's game') we shouldn't support our historic club then?

Founded by former Public Schoolboys!

Indeed, however it was the working-class players who moved over from Blackburn Olympic and a working-class Scottish manager that guided the club to greatness in it's formative years making Blackburn Rovers the first giants of the English game.

I am not trying to pose or win an argument with the following question. Merely demonstrating my lack of knowledge on this...

What brought about the change?

Cumbrian Blue wrote:

makaveli96 wrote: Scudamore attended Kingsfield School in Kingswood, Bristol, where he was Head Boy in his final year and which he left in 1977 -: Look he's not one of us! He's posh, from the south, and shouldnt even be discussing our club! We need to get back to basics and have BLACKBURN players playing in a NORTH/MIDLANDS league. Just like it was in 1888:- Accrington Aston Villaa Blackburn Rovers Bolton Wanderers Burnley Derby County Everton Notts County Preston North End Stoke West Bromwich Albion Wolverhampton Wanderers

So on that basis (even though football is traditionally the 'working man's game') we shouldn't support our historic club then? Founded by former Public Schoolboys!

It was founded by Public School boys because the working class man made them!

Did you never give the "posh" kid a Wedgy at school?

Cumbrian Blue wrote:

BRFC The Peoples Champions wrote:

Cumbrian Blue wrote:

makaveli96 wrote:
Scudamore attended Kingsfield School in Kingswood, Bristol, where he was Head Boy in his final year and which he left in 1977 -:

Look he's not one of us! He's posh, from the south, and shouldnt even be discussing our club!

We need to get back to basics and have BLACKBURN players playing in a NORTH/MIDLANDS league. Just like it was in 1888:-

Accrington
Aston Villaa
Blackburn Rovers
Bolton Wanderers
Burnley
Derby County
Everton
Notts County
Preston North End
Stoke
West Bromwich Albion
Wolverhampton Wanderers

So on that basis (even though football is traditionally the 'working man's game') we shouldn't support our historic club then?

Founded by former Public Schoolboys!

Indeed, however it was the working-class players who moved over from Blackburn Olympic and a working-class Scottish manager that guided the club to greatness in it's formative years making Blackburn Rovers the first giants of the English game.

I am not trying to pose or win an argument with the following question. Merely demonstrating my lack of knowledge on this...

What brought about the change?

The players and the manager.

Blackburn Olympic winning the FA Cup released a grip on the game - not by the middle-classes - as is often claimed - but the gentleman upper classes - football had up to that point been nothing more than a southern gentleman's game.

Blackburn Olypmpic were the first working-class team to win the FA Cup, the following year 8 of their players moved to BRFC and Rovers won the FA cup.

Even the tradition of staying in a hotel 2 nights before the game was started by Olympic.

Blackburn played a major role on the game turning professional.

This web site has some good information.

http://ewoodpark.jim
do.com/

Follow the link to: Blackburn Rovers: Club History and English Football History

makaveli96 wrote:

Cumbrian Blue wrote:

makaveli96 wrote: Scudamore attended Kingsfield School in Kingswood, Bristol, where he was Head Boy in his final year and which he left in 1977 -: Look he's not one of us! He's posh, from the south, and shouldnt even be discussing our club! We need to get back to basics and have BLACKBURN players playing in a NORTH/MIDLANDS league. Just like it was in 1888:- Accrington Aston Villaa Blackburn Rovers Bolton Wanderers Burnley Derby County Everton Notts County Preston North End Stoke West Bromwich Albion Wolverhampton Wanderers

So on that basis (even though football is traditionally the 'working man's game') we shouldn't support our historic club then? Founded by former Public Schoolboys!

It was founded by Public School boys because the working class man made them!

Did you never give the "posh" kid a Wedgy at school?

Afternoon, Maka.

hasslem hasslem wrote:
Peter Scudamore will not give a rat's arse about Blackburn Rovers from now on in. He looks after the premiership and we are in the championship....putt

ing it quite simply from Scudamore's perspective - WE ARE SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROBLEM.
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No doubt, he will listen and nod and give lots of positive vibes - but he does not give a monkeys, no matter how well argued the points from those attending the meeting.
.
Quite simply, the fit and proper persons test is nothing of the sort - look at Pompey, Saints, Dirties even City under a previous regime. The only criteria seems to be do you have a bit of cash? There was all sorts of talk a few years back about tightening up on FAPPT -but nowt seems to have been changed.
.
The only hope would appear to be that in future takeovers there are certain guarantees given - but ultimately venkys (if indeed they do own rovers) are free to keep kean on as a manager, dump JW, allardyce, Finn and stick two fingers up at everyone in blackburn (if they so wish).
.
Personally, i dont reckon our owners are asset strippers - i just think they were sold a puppy by bad advice down in london and have proved to be totally incompetent at managing a business from afar. the sooner they are gone the better.....but as porstsmouth can testify - the next lot may well be worse.

I tend to agree with most if not all your points

Who are the ‘Dirties’?

BRFC The Peoples Champions wrote:

roverinmanchstr wrote:

hasslem hasslem wrote:
Peter Scudamore will not give a rat's arse about Blackburn Rovers from now on in. He looks after the premiership and we are in the championship....putt ing it quite simply from Scudamore's perspective - WE ARE SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROBLEM. . No doubt, he will listen and nod and give lots of positive vibes - but he does not give a monkeys, no matter how well argued the points from those attending the meeting. . Quite simply, the fit and proper persons test is nothing of the sort - look at Pompey, Saints, Dirties even City under a previous regime. The only criteria seems to be do you have a bit of cash? There was all sorts of talk a few years back about tightening up on FAPPT -but nowt seems to have been changed. . The only hope would appear to be that in future takeovers there are certain guarantees given - but ultimately venkys (if indeed they do own rovers) are free to keep kean on as a manager, dump JW, allardyce, Finn and stick two fingers up at everyone in blackburn (if they so wish). . Personally, i dont reckon our owners are asset strippers - i just think they were sold a puppy by bad advice down in london and have proved to be totally incompetent at managing a business from afar. the sooner they are gone the better.....but as porstsmouth can testify - the next lot may well be worse.

You really need to take a reality check......can't believe the 'poo' that you write

Has to be "controversial"


Malcontent, misfit and oddball more likely.

Has to disagree with everyone. Posts long banal comments. I haven't even read it, learned to scroll past them quite a long time ago now.

Probabaly a sock puppet... multiple account holder who posts a number of differing opinions and then sits back and watches the fall out.

I've come on here today and so far not a single Dingle... just straightforward footie talk.

Great. This fella wants the Burnley fans back.

err....no.
been coming on here for around 5 years. always called myself hasslem hasslem. no multiple accounts from me...ask your woody mate.
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i guess i do post long banal comments like many others - but you don't have to read them as you say.
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no idea what a sock puppet is.
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and as for no dingles on here - you would do well to look up voltaire.
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and i think the stuff you have engaged in with your fellow dingle chums in recent months is the cause behind this site disintegrating over the last few weeks. the only burnley fans that say anything constructive are vintageclaret and midas (pompeyclaret used to put some sensible stuff on - but he has not been on for ages)
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like your new name - are you going for a new record in the number of new monikers in a month?

BRFC The Peoples Champions wrote:

Cumbrian Blue wrote:

BRFC The Peoples Champions wrote:

Cumbrian Blue wrote:

makaveli96 wrote: Scudamore attended Kingsfield School in Kingswood, Bristol, where he was Head Boy in his final year and which he left in 1977 -: Look he's not one of us! He's posh, from the south, and shouldnt even be discussing our club! We need to get back to basics and have BLACKBURN players playing in a NORTH/MIDLANDS league. Just like it was in 1888:- Accrington Aston Villaa Blackburn Rovers Bolton Wanderers Burnley Derby County Everton Notts County Preston North End Stoke West Bromwich Albion Wolverhampton Wanderers

So on that basis (even though football is traditionally the 'working man's game') we shouldn't support our historic club then? Founded by former Public Schoolboys!

Indeed, however it was the working-class players who moved over from Blackburn Olympic and a working-class Scottish manager that guided the club to greatness in it's formative years making Blackburn Rovers the first giants of the English game.

I am not trying to pose or win an argument with the following question. Merely demonstrating my lack of knowledge on this... What brought about the change?

The players and the manager. Blackburn Olympic winning the FA Cup released a grip on the game - not by the middle-classes - as is often claimed - but the gentleman upper classes - football had up to that point been nothing more than a southern gentleman's game. Blackburn Olypmpic were the first working-class team to win the FA Cup, the following year 8 of their players moved to BRFC and Rovers won the FA cup. Even the tradition of staying in a hotel 2 nights before the game was started by Olympic. Blackburn played a major role on the game turning professional. This web site has some good information. http://ewoodpark.jim do.com/ Follow the link to: Blackburn Rovers: Club History and English Football History

Money brought about the change. Darwen and The Olympic could not cope with Rovers' financial clout. Best book I have read on the subject is "Underdogs" by Keith Dewhurst.

Iiii1111 wrote:

hasslem hasslem wrote:
Peter Scudamore will not give a rat's arse about Blackburn Rovers from now on in. He looks after the premiership and we are in the championship....putt


ing it quite simply from Scudamore's perspective - WE ARE SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROBLEM.
.
No doubt, he will listen and nod and give lots of positive vibes - but he does not give a monkeys, no matter how well argued the points from those attending the meeting.
.
Quite simply, the fit and proper persons test is nothing of the sort - look at Pompey, Saints, Dirties even City under a previous regime. The only criteria seems to be do you have a bit of cash? There was all sorts of talk a few years back about tightening up on FAPPT -but nowt seems to have been changed.
.
The only hope would appear to be that in future takeovers there are certain guarantees given - but ultimately venkys (if indeed they do own rovers) are free to keep kean on as a manager, dump JW, allardyce, Finn and stick two fingers up at everyone in blackburn (if they so wish).
.
Personally, i dont reckon our owners are asset strippers - i just think they were sold a puppy by bad advice down in london and have proved to be totally incompetent at managing a business from afar. the sooner they are gone the better.....but as porstsmouth can testify - the next lot may well be worse.

I tend to agree with most if not all your points

Who are the ‘Dirties’?

Dirty Leeds

DGower wrote:
Just a thought but seeing as Rovers are now a Football League club and not a Premier league club, perhaps Glen and the team should be engaging them. They have different rules with regards ownership that the Premier League.

Over the next couple of weeks, They have also got meetings with the sports minister, and the football league..I also believe there is a meeting with the Indian high commissioner.

rovers loyal is back i see;-)

Iiii1111 wrote:

hasslem hasslem wrote: Peter Scudamore will not give a rat's arse about Blackburn Rovers from now on in. He looks after the premiership and we are in the championship....putt ing it quite simply from Scudamore's perspective - WE ARE SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROBLEM. . No doubt, he will listen and nod and give lots of positive vibes - but he does not give a monkeys, no matter how well argued the points from those attending the meeting. . Quite simply, the fit and proper persons test is nothing of the sort - look at Pompey, Saints, Dirties even City under a previous regime. The only criteria seems to be do you have a bit of cash? There was all sorts of talk a few years back about tightening up on FAPPT -but nowt seems to have been changed. . The only hope would appear to be that in future takeovers there are certain guarantees given - but ultimately venkys (if indeed they do own rovers) are free to keep kean on as a manager, dump JW, allardyce, Finn and stick two fingers up at everyone in blackburn (if they so wish). . Personally, i dont reckon our owners are asset strippers - i just think they were sold a puppy by bad advice down in london and have proved to be totally incompetent at managing a business from afar. the sooner they are gone the better.....but as porstsmouth can testify - the next lot may well be worse.

I tend to agree with most if not all your points Who are the ‘Dirties’?

Trouble is Hasslem, their experience up to now may well turn them into asset strippers - echoes of The Bhatti Brothers as I have stated so many times in the past. Make no bones about it, we are on the cusp.

Bazzer wrote:

Iiii1111 wrote:

hasslem hasslem wrote: Peter Scudamore will not give a rat's arse about Blackburn Rovers from now on in. He looks after the premiership and we are in the championship....putt ing it quite simply from Scudamore's perspective - WE ARE SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROBLEM. . No doubt, he will listen and nod and give lots of positive vibes - but he does not give a monkeys, no matter how well argued the points from those attending the meeting. . Quite simply, the fit and proper persons test is nothing of the sort - look at Pompey, Saints, Dirties even City under a previous regime. The only criteria seems to be do you have a bit of cash? There was all sorts of talk a few years back about tightening up on FAPPT -but nowt seems to have been changed. . The only hope would appear to be that in future takeovers there are certain guarantees given - but ultimately venkys (if indeed they do own rovers) are free to keep kean on as a manager, dump JW, allardyce, Finn and stick two fingers up at everyone in blackburn (if they so wish). . Personally, i dont reckon our owners are asset strippers - i just think they were sold a puppy by bad advice down in london and have proved to be totally incompetent at managing a business from afar. the sooner they are gone the better.....but as porstsmouth can testify - the next lot may well be worse.

I tend to agree with most if not all your points Who are the ‘Dirties’?

Trouble is Hasslem, their experience up to now may well turn them into asset strippers - echoes of The Bhatti Brothers as I have stated so many times in the past. Make no bones about it, we are on the cusp.

always the happy hammer;-)

hasn't Scudamore already said that Venkys have done nothing outside the law ?

Iiii1111 wrote:
rovers loyal is back i see;-)

rovers loyal, melanie, cold side of the pillow, cold over here, brfc the people's champions or whatever he (for he is a he) will call himself next seems intent on reducing the forum to total drivel.
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he has had more incarnations than dr.who.
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who was the bloke who wished french rover got an incurable disease - any ideas?

Knock, knock, knock hello is Agnew alive. I'll bet your father would have been proud of you, you're a disgrace to your family along with Coar and company. Those who keep quiet and do nothing are as guilty as those who are responsible. When the fans takeover comes to fruition you and your none job will be history.

hasslem hasslem wrote:
A bit of a rant - so i apologise.
now the dingles have gone back down their hole - maybe we can have a more constructive analysis and commentary on things rovers.
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it is now 22 days since we were formally relegated - although all rovers supporters knew it was inevitable from when we got beat by a shockingly bad horwich side way back in march.
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so what have we learned?
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1)....our wonderful manager never thought we would get relegated (funny, i thought it was on your "to do list") and now believes he is the man to take up right back up at the first time of asking and that it will be one step backwards to take two steps forward
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2)...following relegation we were leaked a letter from our deputy chief exec (who is the chief exec) from before christmas which tells us among other things that the club is in a desperate state, got no direction, being left to wither on the vine and our wonderful manager has not only lost the supporters bit the dressing room too. THIS WAS LESS THAN HALF-WAY THROUGH THE SEASON!!!!
4) ...that paul hunt got fired for telling the truth
5)...our wonderful manager enjoys a chinese lager, has tourettes, thinks sam allardyce is a crook, believes he discovered phil jones and that we were going to win the league cup (remember we threw that particular competition)
6)....for steve kean it is possible to fly out to india to have two days of talks with our beloved owners and for nothing to be said about any outcome.
7) our wonderful press officer has done such a good job that he has been promoted to director of communications and immediately slithered down a rat-hole and singularly failed to communicate one soupcon on communication
8) that our longstanding stadium manager has been given his cards - not resigned. and we understand to be replaced by steve kean's bodyguard (previously called his driver - before our wonderful manager told us he needed 24/7 protection)
9).....that our wonderful owners are still in a state of shock over our relegation (wonder why that is anudraha, venketesh and balaji - is that cos your pal the tourettes suffering, drink driving, lying, incompetent chum said it would never happen...and you believed him!!!.
equally we are assured that by venketesh that whatever it costs we will get back into the premiership...but there are no decisions to be made at least for a month.
10) our top scorer last season has said it is important that everybody at the club sticks together, whilst issuing an "I'm off" statement - does that mean that yak has issued an "abandon ship" notice...."mercenari

es and fly-by-nights first"
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WHAT THE BLUE BLAZES IS GOING ON?
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It's bad enough supporters knowing nothing - - but I am reliably told that nobody who works at the club has a clue what is going to happen even tomorrow. Our club is in total meltdown.
We have owners who are know nothing about football, the club, the town or its supporters and will only listen to one person
We have a manager who seems to have no concept in how to manage
We have a director of communications who has no intention of communicating.
We have an administrative body the PL that does not give a monkey's chuff about what is happening to blackburn rovers
We have no chairman
We have no chief exec
We have very few season ticket subscribers
We have a local media (LT and Radio Lancs) that get nothing out of the Venkys, Kean or Agnew.
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Anybody on here reckon we will go straight back up?

No, it's down again I'm afraid.

Coeur de Lion wrote:
Knock, knock, knock hello is Agnew alive. I'll bet your father would have been proud of you, you're a disgrace to your family along with Coar and company. Those who keep quiet and do nothing are as guilty as those who are responsible. When the fans takeover comes to fruition you and your none job will be history.

Indeed Coeur de Lion.

When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a Jew.

Martin Niemöller

Good luck to the people who have gone to see him.

We need the FA help one way the other because this takeover was never right.

Bazzer wrote:

BRFC The Peoples Champions wrote:

Cumbrian Blue wrote:

BRFC The Peoples Champions wrote:

Cumbrian Blue wrote:

makaveli96 wrote: Scudamore attended Kingsfield School in Kingswood, Bristol, where he was Head Boy in his final year and which he left in 1977 -: Look he's not one of us! He's posh, from the south, and shouldnt even be discussing our club! We need to get back to basics and have BLACKBURN players playing in a NORTH/MIDLANDS league. Just like it was in 1888:- Accrington Aston Villaa Blackburn Rovers Bolton Wanderers Burnley Derby County Everton Notts County Preston North End Stoke West Bromwich Albion Wolverhampton Wanderers

So on that basis (even though football is traditionally the 'working man's game') we shouldn't support our historic club then? Founded by former Public Schoolboys!

Indeed, however it was the working-class players who moved over from Blackburn Olympic and a working-class Scottish manager that guided the club to greatness in it's formative years making Blackburn Rovers the first giants of the English game.

I am not trying to pose or win an argument with the following question. Merely demonstrating my lack of knowledge on this... What brought about the change?

The players and the manager. Blackburn Olympic winning the FA Cup released a grip on the game - not by the middle-classes - as is often claimed - but the gentleman upper classes - football had up to that point been nothing more than a southern gentleman's game. Blackburn Olypmpic were the first working-class team to win the FA Cup, the following year 8 of their players moved to BRFC and Rovers won the FA cup. Even the tradition of staying in a hotel 2 nights before the game was started by Olympic. Blackburn played a major role on the game turning professional. This web site has some good information. http://ewoodpark.jim do.com/ Follow the link to: Blackburn Rovers: Club History and English Football History

Money brought about the change. Darwen and The Olympic could not cope with Rovers' financial clout. Best book I have read on the subject is "Underdogs" by Keith Dewhurst.

I money was imortant....that was implied in what i said...money does not play football matches, pick teams, choose tactics, win games.


Also, you said you were not trying to start an argument and had lack of knowledge... you are trying to start an argument and do have knowledge as you have read a book on the subject - what's more, i guessed that was your trick and very slippery it was too.

Dukes wrote:
Good luck to the people who have gone to see him.

We need the FA help one way the other because this takeover was never right.

I second that.

Section from the article:

'Earlier this month, Scudamore insisted Venky’s ‘abided by the rules’ and that they provided the Premier League with the financial guarantees required from every club.'

So the only element to prove that you are a 'Fit & Proper Person' is financial. As long as you have enough money to sustain the club for 2 years then you are ok.....the 2 years is nearly upon us and the club has not been treated in a fit and proper way.

PL you have failed in your 'Duty of Care' to BRFC and their supporters. Not only should Venky's be investigated, so should you.

Final word wrote:
Section from the article:

'Earlier this month, Scudamore insisted Venky’s ‘abided by the rules’ and that they provided the Premier League with the financial guarantees required from every club.'

So the only element to prove that you are a 'Fit & Proper Person' is financial. As long as you have enough money to sustain the club for 2 years then you are ok.....the 2 years is nearly upon us and the club has not been treated in a fit and proper way.

PL you have failed in your 'Duty of Care' to BRFC and their supporters. Not only should Venky's be investigated, so should you.

That is probably why there will be no investigation.

So what happens when they come for the Trolls?

Chairman of FA, Clarke is it? was asked recently about 'fit and proper'. He replied as much to say, that if a potential buyer had no history of bankruptcy, debt and the like, then legally it would be very dangerous to accuse them of not being 'fit and proper' people to run a football club.
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Based on that I don't expect much from today's meeting.
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What I do feel is that there is much corruption in football and if the recent events at say, BRFC, were to be fully investigated and the findings made public, the game would go into meltdown in this country.
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No-one wants to be responsible for opening that can of worms.

Wild Rover wrote:
So what happens when they come for the Trolls?

24 hours out of step.

Typical Scotland. Yapping at Englands heals like a little lost puppy.

Nice to see Henry Winter wishing BRFC Action Group best wishes for the meeting, on twitter.

hasslem hasslem wrote:

Iiii1111 wrote:
rovers loyal is back i see;-)

rovers loyal, melanie, cold side of the pillow, cold over here, brfc the people's champions or whatever he (for he is a he) will call himself next seems intent on reducing the forum to total drivel.
.
he has had more incarnations than dr.who.
.
who was the bloke who wished french rover got an incurable disease - any ideas?

i remember very well who that little gem was from Hass....and he still posts on here occasionally. Quite recently in fact. He seemed to be enjoying contributing to the drivel that was being posted on here recently.

But we moved on from that now and hopefully we have got a decent forum for discussion and opinions once again..god knows we have enough stuff to discuss! With more on the way soon I think.

DaBoss wrote:
The destruction of Darlington FC and why it should matter to all of football - especially Rovers:

http://www.darlofc.c

o.uk/news.php?NewsID

=923

quite ,disgusting ,one day im sure there will be another league ,for those who self own , keep ya chin up and power to the poeple ,,your team cannot die altogether ,look at wimbledon .

BRFC The Peoples Champions wrote:

Coeur de Lion wrote: Knock, knock, knock hello is Agnew alive. I'll bet your father would have been proud of you, you're a disgrace to your family along with Coar and company. Those who keep quiet and do nothing are as guilty as those who are responsible. When the fans takeover comes to fruition you and your none job will be history.

Indeed Coeur de Lion. When the Nazis came for the communists, I remained silent; I was not a communist. When they locked up the social democrats, I remained silent; I was not a social democrat. When they came for the trade unionists, I did not speak out; I was not a trade unionist. When they came for the Jews, I remained silent; I wasn't a Jew. Martin Niemöller

Is it a crime, to fight, for what is mine?

Tupac Shakur

Interesting post from the Rovertalk forum:

http://www.roverstal
k.com/viewtopic.php?
f=2&t=3754&start=298
5

http://www.independe
nt.co.uk/sport/footb
all/news-and-comment
/revealed-how-blackb
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nto-chaos-6291478.ht
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"...Desai was convinced that an annual working capital injection of £3m to £5m would be enough to run Rovers, while enhancing the Venky's chicken processing brand in the west. "They thought the initial down-payment to buy the club was essentially 'job done'," Battersby said. "With an annual working capital injection of £3m to £5m alongside astute player trading, they they could get on and expand their brand."

Exactly what I've been saying all along.. they thought an EPL team could be run like an IPL team, throw a few million that you would put aside for marketing anyway at it and build a Champions league team. The big question is: Did they just assume that was the case and made the purchase? Unlikely, they are very astute business people after all - or were they sold that notion from the "consultants" they relied on?

It kind of writes itself from that point onwards does it not?

Bazzer wrote:

BRFC The Peoples Champions wrote:

Cumbrian Blue wrote:

BRFC The Peoples Champions wrote:

Cumbrian Blue wrote:

makaveli96 wrote: Scudamore attended Kingsfield School in Kingswood, Bristol, where he was Head Boy in his final year and which he left in 1977 -: Look he's not one of us! He's posh, from the south, and shouldnt even be discussing our club! We need to get back to basics and have BLACKBURN players playing in a NORTH/MIDLANDS league. Just like it was in 1888:- Accrington Aston Villaa Blackburn Rovers Bolton Wanderers Burnley Derby County Everton Notts County Preston North End Stoke West Bromwich Albion Wolverhampton Wanderers

So on that basis (even though football is traditionally the 'working man's game') we shouldn't support our historic club then? Founded by former Public Schoolboys!

Indeed, however it was the working-class players who moved over from Blackburn Olympic and a working-class Scottish manager that guided the club to greatness in it's formative years making Blackburn Rovers the first giants of the English game.

I am not trying to pose or win an argument with the following question. Merely demonstrating my lack of knowledge on this... What brought about the change?

The players and the manager. Blackburn Olympic winning the FA Cup released a grip on the game - not by the middle-classes - as is often claimed - but the gentleman upper classes - football had up to that point been nothing more than a southern gentleman's game. Blackburn Olypmpic were the first working-class team to win the FA Cup, the following year 8 of their players moved to BRFC and Rovers won the FA cup. Even the tradition of staying in a hotel 2 nights before the game was started by Olympic. Blackburn played a major role on the game turning professional. This web site has some good information. http://ewoodpark.jim do.com/ Follow the link to: Blackburn Rovers: Club History and English Football History

Money brought about the change. Darwen and The Olympic could not cope with Rovers' financial clout. Best book I have read on the subject is "Underdogs" by Keith Dewhurst.

Hi Bazzer, strangely enough BRFC voted against professionalism in football in any shape and came out strongly against paying players BUT at the same time (as mentioned above) the Rovers fielded several Scottish players who clearly had no other form of income especially Fergie Suter.

He was a stonemason back in Scotland and came down from Rangers in 1879/80 to join Darwen who were accepted as being the first English club to field Scottish players.

Suter never did any stonemasonary work in Darwen and had no other visible means of support so it was obvious he was being rewarded financially by the Darwen club either directly or through some of its fans. So to avoid any untoward publicity about paying players there was no big outcry raised by Darwen when the Rovers lured Fergie Suter away. Though this poaching caused much antagonism between the two clubs for many years.
Suter went on and played a massive part in helping to make the Rovers one of England's top sides of that era.

Paid to play footballers were quickly becoming accepted in English football as the way forward and Darwen and the Rovers were really the ground-breaker clubs in that respect.

BRFC The Peoples Champions wrote:

Bazzer wrote:

BRFC The Peoples Champions wrote:

Cumbrian Blue wrote:

BRFC The Peoples Champions wrote:

Cumbrian Blue wrote:

makaveli96 wrote: Scudamore attended Kingsfield School in Kingswood, Bristol, where he was Head Boy in his final year and which he left in 1977 -: Look he's not one of us! He's posh, from the south, and shouldnt even be discussing our club! We need to get back to basics and have BLACKBURN players playing in a NORTH/MIDLANDS league. Just like it was in 1888:- Accrington Aston Villaa Blackburn Rovers Bolton Wanderers Burnley Derby County Everton Notts County Preston North End Stoke West Bromwich Albion Wolverhampton Wanderers

So on that basis (even though football is traditionally the 'working man's game') we shouldn't support our historic club then? Founded by former Public Schoolboys!

Indeed, however it was the working-class players who moved over from Blackburn Olympic and a working-class Scottish manager that guided the club to greatness in it's formative years making Blackburn Rovers the first giants of the English game.

I am not trying to pose or win an argument with the following question. Merely demonstrating my lack of knowledge on this... What brought about the change?

The players and the manager. Blackburn Olympic winning the FA Cup released a grip on the game - not by the middle-classes - as is often claimed - but the gentleman upper classes - football had up to that point been nothing more than a southern gentleman's game. Blackburn Olypmpic were the first working-class team to win the FA Cup, the following year 8 of their players moved to BRFC and Rovers won the FA cup. Even the tradition of staying in a hotel 2 nights before the game was started by Olympic. Blackburn played a major role on the game turning professional. This web site has some good information. http://ewoodpark.jim do.com/ Follow the link to: Blackburn Rovers: Club History and English Football History

Money brought about the change. Darwen and The Olympic could not cope with Rovers' financial clout. Best book I have read on the subject is "Underdogs" by Keith Dewhurst.

I money was imortant....that was implied in what i said...money does not play football matches, pick teams, choose tactics, win games. Also, you said you were not trying to start an argument and had lack of knowledge... you are trying to start an argument and do have knowledge as you have read a book on the subject - what's more, i guessed that was your trick and very slippery it was too.

What on earth are you talking about? Can't you follow a simple thread? You attribute to me what another has said.

French Rover wrote:

hasslem hasslem wrote:

Iiii1111 wrote:
rovers loyal is back i see;-)

rovers loyal, melanie, cold side of the pillow, cold over here, brfc the people's champions or whatever he (for he is a he) will call himself next seems intent on reducing the forum to total drivel.
.
he has had more incarnations than dr.who.
.
who was the bloke who wished french rover got an incurable disease - any ideas?

i remember very well who that little gem was from Hass....and he still posts on here occasionally. Quite recently in fact. He seemed to be enjoying contributing to the drivel that was being posted on here recently.

But we moved on from that now and hopefully we have got a decent forum for discussion and opinions once again..god knows we have enough stuff to discuss! With more on the way soon I think.

yes, I remember ……..Jacques Cousteau from Rishton….I’m I right frenchy?

Interstingly, even before the 'takeover'; Jerome Anderson told another 'interested party' that they could purchase BRFC from the Walker Trust provided......

He ( Jerome Anderson ) had a 20% stake AND that Steve Kean was made manager.

KEAN OUT.
KENTARO OUT.
AGNEW OUT.

Arte et Labore
ps. scandalous and illegal.

I'm well aware of the affect passive smoking might have on my kids.

I've even built a shelter outside for them.

makaveli96 wrote:

BRFC The Peoples Champions wrote:

Coeur de Lion wrote: Knock, knock, knock hello is Agnew alive. I'll bet your father would have been proud of you, you're a disgrace to your family along with Coar and company. Those who keep quiet and do nothing are as guilty as those who are responsible. When the fans takeover comes to fruition you and your none job will be history.

Indeed Coeur de Lion. When the Nazis came for the communists, I remained silent; I was not a communist. When they locked up the social democrats, I remained silent; I was not a social democrat. When they came for the trade unionists, I did not speak out; I was not a trade unionist. When they came for the Jews, I remained silent; I wasn't a Jew. Martin Niemöller

Is it a crime, to fight, for what is mine?

Tupac Shakur

It seems some people think so.

Usual odd balls and misfits... most of whom, interestingly enough were Venky's and Kean supporters and attempted to have many Rovers fans blocked from this web site for wanting the Venky's and Kean out.

Is it any wonder that the Venky's engaged in fascistic behaviour by banning banners at Ewood Park or the appalling turning up the volume at Radio Rovers?

Liiii111, French Rovers, Haslem Haslem, Wild Rovers, Bazzer etc

Guess who wants the Dingles back?

Just had uncle Ben's rice for dinner.

He's an alcoholic and didn't even notice anyway.

The kids next door challenged me to a water balloon fight.

I'm just waiting until I can take mine out of the freezer.

French Rover wrote:

Bazzer wrote:

BRFC The Peoples Champions wrote:

Cumbrian Blue wrote:

BRFC The Peoples Champions wrote:

Cumbrian Blue wrote:

makaveli96 wrote: Scudamore attended Kingsfield School in Kingswood, Bristol, where he was Head Boy in his final year and which he left in 1977 -: Look he's not one of us! He's posh, from the south, and shouldnt even be discussing our club! We need to get back to basics and have BLACKBURN players playing in a NORTH/MIDLANDS league. Just like it was in 1888:- Accrington Aston Villaa Blackburn Rovers Bolton Wanderers Burnley Derby County Everton Notts County Preston North End Stoke West Bromwich Albion Wolverhampton Wanderers

So on that basis (even though football is traditionally the 'working man's game') we shouldn't support our historic club then? Founded by former Public Schoolboys!

Indeed, however it was the working-class players who moved over from Blackburn Olympic and a working-class Scottish manager that guided the club to greatness in it's formative years making Blackburn Rovers the first giants of the English game.

I am not trying to pose or win an argument with the following question. Merely demonstrating my lack of knowledge on this... What brought about the change?

The players and the manager. Blackburn Olympic winning the FA Cup released a grip on the game - not by the middle-classes - as is often claimed - but the gentleman upper classes - football had up to that point been nothing more than a southern gentleman's game. Blackburn Olypmpic were the first working-class team to win the FA Cup, the following year 8 of their players moved to BRFC and Rovers won the FA cup. Even the tradition of staying in a hotel 2 nights before the game was started by Olympic. Blackburn played a major role on the game turning professional. This web site has some good information. http://ewoodpark.jim do.com/ Follow the link to: Blackburn Rovers: Club History and English Football History

Money brought about the change. Darwen and The Olympic could not cope with Rovers' financial clout. Best book I have read on the subject is "Underdogs" by Keith Dewhurst.

Hi Bazzer, strangely enough BRFC voted against professionalism in football in any shape and came out strongly against paying players BUT at the same time (as mentioned above) the Rovers fielded several Scottish players who clearly had no other form of income especially Fergie Suter. He was a stonemason back in Scotland and came down from Rangers in 1879/80 to join Darwen who were accepted as being the first English club to field Scottish players. Suter never did any stonemasonary work in Darwen and had no other visible means of support so it was obvious he was being rewarded financially by the Darwen club either directly or through some of its fans. So to avoid any untoward publicity about paying players there was no big outcry raised by Darwen when the Rovers lured Fergie Suter away. Though this poaching caused much antagonism between the two clubs for many years. Suter went on and played a massive part in helping to make the Rovers one of England's top sides of that era. Paid to play footballers were quickly becoming accepted in English football as the way forward and Darwen and the Rovers were really the ground-breaker clubs in that respect.

FR - I presume you have not read the Dewhurst book. Came out this year. If you are interested in that era, and I suspect you are, I heartily recommend it. So many "chains" connect us to the past, "chains" being the authors term. Even Stoke's/Big Sam's long throw tactics!

BRFC The Peoples Champions wrote:

makaveli96 wrote:

BRFC The Peoples Champions wrote:

Coeur de Lion wrote: Knock, knock, knock hello is Agnew alive. I'll bet your father would have been proud of you, you're a disgrace to your family along with Coar and company. Those who keep quiet and do nothing are as guilty as those who are responsible. When the fans takeover comes to fruition you and your none job will be history.

Indeed Coeur de Lion. When the Nazis came for the communists, I remained silent; I was not a communist. When they locked up the social democrats, I remained silent; I was not a social democrat. When they came for the trade unionists, I did not speak out; I was not a trade unionist. When they came for the Jews, I remained silent; I wasn't a Jew. Martin Niemöller

Is it a crime, to fight, for what is mine?

Tupac Shakur

It seems some people think so.

Usual odd balls and misfits... most of whom, interestingly enough were Venky's and Kean supporters and attempted to have many Rovers fans blocked from this web site for wanting the Venky's and Kean out.

Is it any wonder that the Venky's engaged in fascistic behaviour by banning banners at Ewood Park or the appalling turning up the volume at Radio Rovers?

Liiii111, French Rovers, Haslem Haslem, Wild Rovers, Bazzer etc

Guess who wants the Dingles back?

nobody mentioned wanting the dingles back, that's just stupid.

I've been invited to another ABBA themed fancy-dress party at the local Evangelical Church.

I'm Björn again.

Iiii1111 wrote:

Bazzer wrote:

Iiii1111 wrote:

hasslem hasslem wrote: Peter Scudamore will not give a rat's arse about Blackburn Rovers from now on in. He looks after the premiership and we are in the championship....putt ing it quite simply from Scudamore's perspective - WE ARE SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROBLEM. . No doubt, he will listen and nod and give lots of positive vibes - but he does not give a monkeys, no matter how well argued the points from those attending the meeting. . Quite simply, the fit and proper persons test is nothing of the sort - look at Pompey, Saints, Dirties even City under a previous regime. The only criteria seems to be do you have a bit of cash? There was all sorts of talk a few years back about tightening up on FAPPT -but nowt seems to have been changed. . The only hope would appear to be that in future takeovers there are certain guarantees given - but ultimately venkys (if indeed they do own rovers) are free to keep kean on as a manager, dump JW, allardyce, Finn and stick two fingers up at everyone in blackburn (if they so wish). . Personally, i dont reckon our owners are asset strippers - i just think they were sold a puppy by bad advice down in london and have proved to be totally incompetent at managing a business from afar. the sooner they are gone the better.....but as porstsmouth can testify - the next lot may well be worse.

I tend to agree with most if not all your points Who are the ‘Dirties’?

Trouble is Hasslem, their experience up to now may well turn them into asset strippers - echoes of The Bhatti Brothers as I have stated so many times in the past. Make no bones about it, we are on the cusp.

always the happy hammer;-)

We shall not see Big Sam's likes again!!! I presume you raised a glass to hiss success?

How many feminists does it take to change a lightbulb?

None, it's not the lightbulb that needs changing.

The Euro 2012 is set to begin soon. The Polish national team are scheduled to fly out from Heathrow next week.

Bazzer wrote:

French Rover wrote:

Bazzer wrote:

BRFC The Peoples Champions wrote:

Cumbrian Blue wrote:

BRFC The Peoples Champions wrote:

Cumbrian Blue wrote:

makaveli96 wrote: Scudamore attended Kingsfield School in Kingswood, Bristol, where he was Head Boy in his final year and which he left in 1977 -: Look he's not one of us! He's posh, from the south, and shouldnt even be discussing our club! We need to get back to basics and have BLACKBURN players playing in a NORTH/MIDLANDS league. Just like it was in 1888:- Accrington Aston Villaa Blackburn Rovers Bolton Wanderers Burnley Derby County Everton Notts County Preston North End Stoke West Bromwich Albion Wolverhampton Wanderers

So on that basis (even though football is traditionally the 'working man's game') we shouldn't support our historic club then? Founded by former Public Schoolboys!

Indeed, however it was the working-class players who moved over from Blackburn Olympic and a working-class Scottish manager that guided the club to greatness in it's formative years making Blackburn Rovers the first giants of the English game.

I am not trying to pose or win an argument with the following question. Merely demonstrating my lack of knowledge on this... What brought about the change?

The players and the manager. Blackburn Olympic winning the FA Cup released a grip on the game - not by the middle-classes - as is often claimed - but the gentleman upper classes - football had up to that point been nothing more than a southern gentleman's game. Blackburn Olypmpic were the first working-class team to win the FA Cup, the following year 8 of their players moved to BRFC and Rovers won the FA cup. Even the tradition of staying in a hotel 2 nights before the game was started by Olympic. Blackburn played a major role on the game turning professional. This web site has some good information. http://ewoodpark.jim do.com/ Follow the link to: Blackburn Rovers: Club History and English Football History

Money brought about the change. Darwen and The Olympic could not cope with Rovers' financial clout. Best book I have read on the subject is "Underdogs" by Keith Dewhurst.

Hi Bazzer, strangely enough BRFC voted against professionalism in football in any shape and came out strongly against paying players BUT at the same time (as mentioned above) the Rovers fielded several Scottish players who clearly had no other form of income especially Fergie Suter. He was a stonemason back in Scotland and came down from Rangers in 1879/80 to join Darwen who were accepted as being the first English club to field Scottish players. Suter never did any stonemasonary work in Darwen and had no other visible means of support so it was obvious he was being rewarded financially by the Darwen club either directly or through some of its fans. So to avoid any untoward publicity about paying players there was no big outcry raised by Darwen when the Rovers lured Fergie Suter away. Though this poaching caused much antagonism between the two clubs for many years. Suter went on and played a massive part in helping to make the Rovers one of England's top sides of that era. Paid to play footballers were quickly becoming accepted in English football as the way forward and Darwen and the Rovers were really the ground-breaker clubs in that respect.

FR - I presume you have not read the Dewhurst book. Came out this year. If you are interested in that era, and I suspect you are, I heartily recommend it. So many "chains" connect us to the past, "chains" being the authors term. Even Stoke's/Big Sam's long throw tactics!

nope not read that yet bazzer...sounds like one to put on the WH Smith list for my next trip back.... I actually did a whole lot of research on football in general and of course the Rovers from the start of the professional game until the turn of the century. Like you say - there are lots of similarities between then and now - cos nothing is ever really new is it!

philmoulden wrote:

DaBoss wrote:
The destruction of Darlington FC and why it should matter to all of football - especially Rovers:

http://www.darlofc.c


o.uk/news.php?NewsID


=923

quite ,disgusting ,one day im sure there will be another league ,for those who self own , keep ya chin up and power to the poeple ,,your team cannot die altogether ,look at wimbledon .

Good point well made.

'People Power' is what can save us... sadly, there are those who constantly mock that notion.

My guess... synthetic supporters and polyester passion - SKY SPORTS era fans.

BlueSkies wrote:
Chairman of FA, Clarke is it? was asked recently about 'fit and proper'. He replied as much to say, that if a potential buyer had no history of bankruptcy, debt and the like, then legally it would be very dangerous to accuse them of not being 'fit and proper' people to run a football club. . Based on that I don't expect much from today's meeting. . What I do feel is that there is much corruption in football and if the recent events at say, BRFC, were to be fully investigated and the findings made public, the game would go into meltdown in this country. . No-one wants to be responsible for opening that can of worms.

I seem to recall that Adrian Goldberg of BBC 5-Live did some investigative work on A Ali Syed when he was attempting to buy BRFC from the Walkers' Trust, which stopped Ali in his tracks? Mihir Bose has also had some interesing things to say on "Inside World Football" about the Venkys takeover... I also have read somewhere that SEM Kentaro were involved when Thaksin Shinawatra took over at City? Surely someone of that ilk (or Henry Winter) could do some serious digging??

French Rover wrote:

BRFC The Peoples Champions wrote:

makaveli96 wrote:

BRFC The Peoples Champions wrote:

Coeur de Lion wrote: Knock, knock, knock hello is Agnew alive. I'll bet your father would have been proud of you, you're a disgrace to your family along with Coar and company. Those who keep quiet and do nothing are as guilty as those who are responsible. When the fans takeover comes to fruition you and your none job will be history.

Indeed Coeur de Lion. When the Nazis came for the communists, I remained silent; I was not a communist. When they locked up the social democrats, I remained silent; I was not a social democrat. When they came for the trade unionists, I did not speak out; I was not a trade unionist. When they came for the Jews, I remained silent; I wasn't a Jew. Martin Niemöller

Is it a crime, to fight, for what is mine? Tupac Shakur

It seems some people think so. Usual odd balls and misfits... most of whom, interestingly enough were Venky's and Kean supporters and attempted to have many Rovers fans blocked from this web site for wanting the Venky's and Kean out. Is it any wonder that the Venky's engaged in fascistic behaviour by banning banners at Ewood Park or the appalling turning up the volume at Radio Rovers? Liiii111, French Rovers, Haslem Haslem, Wild Rovers, Bazzer etc Guess who wants the Dingles back?

nobody mentioned wanting the dingles back, that's just stupid.

Of course it is stupid. He cannot even follow a simple thread as shown above.

BRFC The Peoples Champions wrote:

makaveli96 wrote:

BRFC The Peoples Champions wrote:

Coeur de Lion wrote: Knock, knock, knock hello is Agnew alive. I'll bet your father would have been proud of you, you're a disgrace to your family along with Coar and company. Those who keep quiet and do nothing are as guilty as those who are responsible. When the fans takeover comes to fruition you and your none job will be history.

Indeed Coeur de Lion. When the Nazis came for the communists, I remained silent; I was not a communist. When they locked up the social democrats, I remained silent; I was not a social democrat. When they came for the trade unionists, I did not speak out; I was not a trade unionist. When they came for the Jews, I remained silent; I wasn't a Jew. Martin Niemöller

Is it a crime, to fight, for what is mine?

Tupac Shakur

It seems some people think so.

Usual odd balls and misfits... most of whom, interestingly enough were Venky's and Kean supporters and attempted to have many Rovers fans blocked from this web site for wanting the Venky's and Kean out.

Is it any wonder that the Venky's engaged in fascistic behaviour by banning banners at Ewood Park or the appalling turning up the volume at Radio Rovers?

Liiii111, French Rovers, Haslem Haslem, Wild Rovers, Bazzer etc

Guess who wants the Dingles back?

Alot of people on here are very quick to point the finger.

It's very annoying.

First it was Big Sam, then he got sacked.

Then it was Paul Hunt, then he got sacked.

Two decent people lost their jobs and they would've probably fought for Rovers against Venky's if the fans didn't get on their back.

Now people are looking for someone else to blame and who gets the blame? Agnew he's been the director of communications for what two weeks and already he's getting abuse hurled at him.

You all know who to blame:
Kean, Venky's, Anderson etc.

They're the one pulling the strings the rest of staff do as they're told or they lose there jobs.

Although we would like to think the club is (was) run by the fans it really isn't the only people who have any influence are the men (and woman) at the top.

Premier League you're having a laugh!
When will you all act with dignity and take relegation on the chin!

'Please, please kind Mr Scudamore we bought a bike off you last week and the wheels have fallen off. Can you help us?'

'F-off kids and don't come around here again!!!!!!!!'

spike t wrote:
Premier League you're having a laugh!
When will you all act with dignity and take relegation on the chin!

It's not about relegation. We accepted that long ago. It's about the future of the club we support.

Well, that's me off. Quit whilst you're ahead.

*UTC competition. Classic.

*Seen off (most of) the Burnley trolls. Result.

*Facts not myths and a popular web site. Happy.

*Met a couple of posters on here who were prepared to meet and not hide behind a computer. Respect.

Blackburn Loyal-Rovers Loyal-Melanie-Cold Side Of The Pillow-BRFC The Peoples Champions-Cold Over Here.... a stream of enlightened consciousness.

Some of the others... they know who they are... a stream of perpetual sorrow.

Respect to KDG... extremely funny even though i completely disagreed with her initial stance on Kean/Venky's - she at least stuck around to take the flak when it was clear BRFC were finished, (unlike some of the others, again, no need to name names).

Road Runner; Cuer de Lion; Da Boss, Ted Maul... quality posts.

My work here is done.

thommovat wrote:

BlueSkies wrote: Chairman of FA, Clarke is it? was asked recently about 'fit and proper'. He replied as much to say, that if a potential buyer had no history of bankruptcy, debt and the like, then legally it would be very dangerous to accuse them of not being 'fit and proper' people to run a football club. . Based on that I don't expect much from today's meeting. . What I do feel is that there is much corruption in football and if the recent events at say, BRFC, were to be fully investigated and the findings made public, the game would go into meltdown in this country. . No-one wants to be responsible for opening that can of worms.

I seem to recall that Adrian Goldberg of BBC 5-Live did some investigative work on A Ali Syed when he was attempting to buy BRFC from the Walkers' Trust, which stopped Ali in his tracks? Mihir Bose has also had some interesing things to say on "Inside World Football" about the Venkys takeover... I also have read somewhere that SEM Kentaro were involved when Thaksin Shinawatra took over at City? Surely someone of that ilk (or Henry Winter) could do some serious digging??

Thursday August 23,2007
By Harry Harris, Express (around the time Shinawatra had taken over at City);

"Manchester City have splashed around £7million in commissions to agent Jerome Anderson in less than a month to lure their squadron of summer talent.

Eight new foreign stars at City are rapidly becoming overnight sensations, but it has been a complex and expensive exercise in recruiting Sven-Goran Eriksson’s new table-topping team.

One source puts the amount in agent’s fees as high as £8m, while a City insider assured me yesterday that it is closer to £7m.

The club’s new owner Thaksin Shinawatra has passed on a firm message to the Daily Express that he is content with the way his cash has been invested.

The communique from the former Thai Prime Minister said that he is satisfied with the way agent Anderson has exclusively handled the player recruitment".

So, yes he was.

You may recall Hans Christian's Oscar performance on SSN earlier this year; he said he had slept at the training ground and left the place "rocking". Hmmmm, "Rocking"; unfortunate use of the word and sadly prophetic, don't you think?

He said the same, almost verbatim, about his time at City.

Everybody knows Sven's a football wh@re and will take anybody's money. The problem is, so is Hans Christian.

He must be building up quite a reputation for the standard of potential buyers he introduces.

Mr Syed's financial irregularities (now wanted by the Spanish authorities, I believe) and the club he bought going bankrupt; human rights offences by Shinawatra and now incompetance on an epic scale from our lot.

Anybody out there looking for new owners? I know someone who can put you in touch with this little North Korean bloke. He can be hard to get on with but you'll like him, honest.

I'll get Hans C's number for you.

French Rover wrote:

Bazzer wrote:

French Rover wrote:

Bazzer wrote:

BRFC The Peoples Champions wrote:

Cumbrian Blue wrote:

BRFC The Peoples Champions wrote:

Cumbrian Blue wrote:

makaveli96 wrote: Scudamore attended Kingsfield School in Kingswood, Bristol, where he was Head Boy in his final year and which he left in 1977 -: Look he's not one of us! He's posh, from the south, and shouldnt even be discussing our club! We need to get back to basics and have BLACKBURN players playing in a NORTH/MIDLANDS league. Just like it was in 1888:- Accrington Aston Villaa Blackburn Rovers Bolton Wanderers Burnley Derby County Everton Notts County Preston North End Stoke West Bromwich Albion Wolverhampton Wanderers

So on that basis (even though football is traditionally the 'working man's game') we shouldn't support our historic club then? Founded by former Public Schoolboys!

Indeed, however it was the working-class players who moved over from Blackburn Olympic and a working-class Scottish manager that guided the club to greatness in it's formative years making Blackburn Rovers the first giants of the English game.

I am not trying to pose or win an argument with the following question. Merely demonstrating my lack of knowledge on this... What brought about the change?

The players and the manager. Blackburn Olympic winning the FA Cup released a grip on the game - not by the middle-classes - as is often claimed - but the gentleman upper classes - football had up to that point been nothing more than a southern gentleman's game. Blackburn Olypmpic were the first working-class team to win the FA Cup, the following year 8 of their players moved to BRFC and Rovers won the FA cup. Even the tradition of staying in a hotel 2 nights before the game was started by Olympic. Blackburn played a major role on the game turning professional. This web site has some good information. http://ewoodpark.jim do.com/ Follow the link to: Blackburn Rovers: Club History and English Football History

Money brought about the change. Darwen and The Olympic could not cope with Rovers' financial clout. Best book I have read on the subject is "Underdogs" by Keith Dewhurst.

Hi Bazzer, strangely enough BRFC voted against professionalism in football in any shape and came out strongly against paying players BUT at the same time (as mentioned above) the Rovers fielded several Scottish players who clearly had no other form of income especially Fergie Suter. He was a stonemason back in Scotland and came down from Rangers in 1879/80 to join Darwen who were accepted as being the first English club to field Scottish players. Suter never did any stonemasonary work in Darwen and had no other visible means of support so it was obvious he was being rewarded financially by the Darwen club either directly or through some of its fans. So to avoid any untoward publicity about paying players there was no big outcry raised by Darwen when the Rovers lured Fergie Suter away. Though this poaching caused much antagonism between the two clubs for many years. Suter went on and played a massive part in helping to make the Rovers one of England's top sides of that era. Paid to play footballers were quickly becoming accepted in English football as the way forward and Darwen and the Rovers were really the ground-breaker clubs in that respect.

FR - I presume you have not read the Dewhurst book. Came out this year. If you are interested in that era, and I suspect you are, I heartily recommend it. So many "chains" connect us to the past, "chains" being the authors term. Even Stoke's/Big Sam's long throw tactics!

nope not read that yet bazzer...sounds like one to put on the WH Smith list for my next trip back.... I actually did a whole lot of research on football in general and of course the Rovers from the start of the professional game until the turn of the century. Like you say - there are lots of similarities between then and now - cos nothing is ever really new is it!

Quite right, nothing is new at all. Some people might call us boring old ****. Are we bothered?

makaveli96 wrote:
Scudamore attended Kingsfield School in Kingswood, Bristol, where he was Head Boy in his final year and which he left in 1977 -:

Look he's not one of us! He's posh, from the south, and shouldnt even be discussing our club!

We need to get back to basics and have BLACKBURN players playing in a NORTH/MIDLANDS league. Just like it was in 1888:-

Accrington
Aston Villaa
Blackburn Rovers
Bolton Wanderers
Burnley
Derby County
Everton
Notts County
Preston North End
Stoke
West Bromwich Albion
Wolverhampton Wanderers

check your history of the origins of Blackburn Rovers! we came from Cambridge Uni and Malvern school ,Olympic were the working man's club.

"When I think of the love Jack Walker had for Blackburn Rovers.

A local man, who made his millions and decided to plough plenty of them into his local club. It was not a plaything or a business for him. It was a real passion. He wanted his home town and its ‘little’ side on that map, battling with the big boys and beating them. And how we did it.

The whole story of a little club made good is over — and that is just plain wrong" - Alan Shearer

Big Al, wise, poignant words by a Rovers legend, But words are just that and they wont help to fix the mess that has been created, or the damage to Uncle Jack's legacy.

You know what is wrong, the cancer that is eroding the fabric of one of our towns greatest heritage. Ignore the few rancid fans who taunted you when you left and remember the thousands who chanted your name so loud, it carried across the town into the hearts of the good people of Blackburn.

Come back and help stop the destruction. You know you can do it, Venkys would have you as a manager in a heartbeat.

You owe it to yourself and the man whose vision helped make you the Rovers legend you are.

Heard the idiot Scudamore on Talksport last week so the Rovers delegation can save their breath. Unbloodybelievable!!
!!!
The crap he came out with was basically, 'shut your mouths and stop bleating you Blackburn fans just because you've gone down. Two other sides have accepted that some teams lose more games than they win!!! Get out of the 'elite' league you small town muppets!!!'

andersen was involved in brokering the city/shinawatra deal, who had previously been keen to buy liverpool (anybody that has visited the land of smiles will know that thailand is predominantly liverpool and red is his political colour).

i am sure i heard that towards the end of the shinawatra reign at city it was all falling apart and the previous chairman or one of the directors had to step in with their own money just to pay the players - then it all changed when the abu dhabi prince took over.

no idea whether andersen was involved with ali al syed with the racing santander deal - but one assumes that it was him that introduced al syed to walker trust.

i cannot remember whether andersen was appointed by walker trust or rothschilds to find a buyer for rovers or whether he was trying to find a club for venkys to buy. i seem to recall that someone has previously said that venkys had been keen on everton too - but that may just be rumour and heresay.

before al syed arrived on the scene and inspected the club shop with his hire henchmen in their rented limos there was a 3rd prospective buyer from the indian subcontinent that was meant to be interested in rovers.....like syed he had no visible wealth and his proposal floundered.

remember we could have had syed and i guess we could have been further down the road to destruction than we currently are - at least the venkys are only up in court for a property deal without planning permission in india - whilst syed is reportedly being pursued by interpol.......so whilt we are still in the brown stuff - we are not quite in the deep end - YET.

also remember that sport is full of sharks and n'er-do-wells across all areas - just look at the italian football stuff at the moment, boxing hardly is the most ethical of noble arts, cricket with the likes of cronje in SA and also the likes of Alan Sandford. Numerous dodgy goings on in baseball and American Football.
Seems to me that where any sport attracts a significant audience and is relatively cash rich - then it attracts those who normally inhabit the more nefarious areas.

In Cornwall anyone want a passtie

Dear mr scudamore please can we come back into the premiership as our team did not mean to play so badly through the season and we were only six points adrift of fourth from bottom of the table.

Our 3000 season ticket holders do not want to play the likes of 'Watford and Peterboro' this coming season our fans have every write to be playing 'Arsenal and Man utd' Well what about it mr scudamore ? errrr al get back to you but if you have not heard from me the day before the chumpionship kicks off, well its tough bananas.

Clutching at straws sadly - the horse bolted a long time ago and took the loot with them.

Good luck with your conversations but dont hold out much hope like or not we are relegated

As for Venkys perhaps if they had to come to Blackburn to pick up their goodies they may be more talkative although from what I have heard since relegation I doubt it.

I just hope they do not let Steve Patrick go until he has relayed the pitch for next season although nothing surprises me anymore down Ewood way

It's going to be a long hot summer.

www.burnley.towntalk
.co.uk/tcm/safe

Arte et Labore

Just to let you know that there's a poster pretending to be me. look out for the comma at the end of my name.I think its a Dingle but it could be that LYING fool from Bolton, Moses.

If he posts any racist stuff please report the fool to the police...Thanks

halfhearted wrote:
I suspect he will give them answers like a politician would. He'll skirt round the main issues.
Do the Venk's own the club. Whay were the banks moved to India,simple answer if an investigation is launched it will be almost impossible to gain access to the accounts.
Are clubs not obliged to provide accounts to the powers that be.
Just heard a rumour that Newshams replacement is Keans security man.
That man is going nowhere but a Police cell eventually.

It's not a rumour. His bodyguard has replaced Newsham. It's looking even more crooked isnt it. Thing is, these that move on or sacked dont blow the whistle because theyve been paid to be silent. They are just as bad.

When are the numbskulls that keep on about us being aggrieved at being relegated going to realise that WE are NOT concerned in itself at our relegation, the relegation was a side affect of employing Kean as manager. The important questions we are trying to raise with the authorities is, were the Walker trust deceived by all the parties involved in the purchase of BRFC? Not one of the Venky's assurances quoted at the time of purchase have been fulfilled. This scenario could be repeated at a lot of other clubs in the future, so anything the fans of BRFC can do now to stop it happening again must be for the benefit of ALL teams. So I would suggest to those fans deriding us to think twice before doing so.

Cold Over Here wrote:
Well, that's me off. Quit whilst you're ahead. *UTC competition. Classic. *Seen off (most of) the Burnley trolls. Result. *Facts not myths and a popular web site. Happy. *Met a couple of posters on here who were prepared to meet and not hide behind a computer. Respect. Blackburn Loyal-Rovers Loyal-Melanie-Cold Side Of The Pillow-BRFC The Peoples Champions-Cold Over Here.... a stream of enlightened consciousness. Some of the others... they know who they are... a stream of perpetual sorrow. Respect to KDG... extremely funny even though i completely disagreed with her initial stance on Kean/Venky's - she at least stuck around to take the flak when it was clear BRFC were finished, (unlike some of the others, again, no need to name names). Road Runner; Cuer de Lion; Da Boss, Ted Maul... quality posts. My work here is done.

Bye. And Byeeee from the fragrant Mrs. O'Keefe too......

To keep massive quoted text to a minimum. Thanks for the interesting history lesson and enlightening me.

As for class wars....the working man making the POSH folk....and vice versa....that debate will always run on and on eh? Which came first the chicken or the egg?

I take everyone at face value and think the working man who becomes the 'POSH' or 'Rich' man, is the one who will only truly ever understand the real meaning of money. Strange then don't you think how Uncle Jack fitted that bill....

Either way and whatever our views....some of the background covered in this thread regarding the heritage of BRFC and football in general is a timely reminder of Venky's responsibility.

Woah this is a whole new look, its like having a whole new wardrobe to try on. Unlike me it looks a bit classier.
Anyway on the article I can't see scudamore doing anything except listen. Rovers are no longer his concern, we are now a long gone lanced boil.
He is only concerned with those who bring value to the PL table so the more london clubs the better for him.
Sucks I know but thats the way it is. I expect no input from scudamore or the PL. The FA should be more concerned.

nontetleysdog wrote:
Dear mr scudamore please can we come back into the premiership as our team did not mean to play so badly through the season and we were only six points adrift of fourth from bottom of the table. Our 3000 season ticket holders do not want to play the likes of 'Watford and Peterboro' this coming season our fans have every write to be playing 'Arsenal and Man utd' Well what about it mr scudamore ? errrr al get back to you but if you have not heard from me the day before the chumpionship kicks off, well its tough bananas.

Idiotic comment ... but to be expected.

Bit classy this innit? We can now score a post instead of quote quote quote quote and comment afresh.
Pardon me if I missed it but has a retained/released list been published?
And has Vince Grella got himself a new 4 year deal which in itself keeps the physio in a job (positive thinking yeh?)
Steve's quiet...... I find I miss his errrrm, ramblings. Speak to us Steve, give us the motivation we need to keep the fight going. Sorry, that should be Sir Steve (Eric's just been on my case)
And please get off the back our Director of Communications. I was always told that if I was going to talk rubbish, better to shut the wotif up!

Tweet from BRFC Action Group, delighted with progress today. Full statement tomorrow.
Well done everybody.

Where is Steve Kean?

Where is Paul Agnew?

Why is there no statement from either of them?

Preston have already signed 11 new Players for next season and we cannot be told where our two supposedly main men are!

What a complete shambles.

But there really is no way that anybody can do anything. Venky's will please themselves - it's their business and they can run it anyway they wish - and do. If it is not to our liking we should just stay away. Eventually the money will run out and when there is no more cash to be milked from Rovers Venky's will leave - and not a minute before.
Incidentally full marks and thanks to the Telegraph for the improved site.

Rover Pete wrote:
Where is Steve Kean?

Where is Paul Agnew?

Why is there no statement from either of them?

Preston have already signed 11 new Players for next season and we cannot be told where our two supposedly main men are!

What a complete shambles.

But there really is no way that anybody can do anything. Venky's will please themselves - it's their business and they can run it anyway they wish - and do. If it is not to our liking we should just stay away. Eventually the money will run out and when there is no more cash to be milked from Rovers Venky's will leave - and not a minute before.
Incidentally full marks and thanks to the Telegraph for the improved site.

Where is anyone who makes decisions? This club is so shambolic that you couldn't buy a season ticket right now even if you wanted one.....After the early bird promotion whoever runs the commercial side of the club have not released the prices nearly 4 weeks after the season ended. What the hell is that about? It seems to me that they, whoever "they"are, don't give a **** about the supporters or ticket revenue and are content to budget from the parachute payments...Sadly BRFC are a sad parody of the well run club that existed 20 months ago and it stinks like a Dingles armpit

As I've said before, the situation at Rovers is as confused as a Dingle on Fathers Day.

I would love to know what our esteemed spanking new Director of Commuications is up to...perhaps we've misunderstood his role & he's actually responsible for making sure thd stewards Walkie talkies are charged up?

Regards,

Ted.

i'm just fed up of it all now, silence speaks volumes, and the constant conversations i read on here reveal little.

will the last person on their way out of BRFC turn out the lights.......

Friend of mine forgot to renew STs during the earlybird jobbo, went to renew this week (community thing, no disrespect intended), prepared to pay whatever. Ticket Office staff have no information on prices.
Not their fault.

Shear_Brilliance wrote:
Hope it works my theory on how they acquired the club without breaking any of the rules and make money from it is they bought the club paid off the debt give the agents a large percentage of deals that they arrange in return the agents give some of the money back to Venky's that way they can actually make money from transfers etc.

It would explain why we paid so much agent fees and it would also explain why people like Anderson where ever involved in the club.

So when they are cutting the 'wage budget' they would be also make a sly profit it would also explain why they are desperate to keep the club because they wouldn't have got a return from their investment yet.

Unfortunately for us there is probably no way of ever tracing this.

I agree , and what is worse at no stage do the fans have any say ,, kean is not bothered if only 99 fans turn up next season. he ll tell the thick Indians that the fans are totally behind him,, we need some good suggestions fellow fans,, no one is listening to us

It's not all negative.
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BRSIT, BRFC Action Group are delivering for the cause.
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Respect.

Steve Patrick sacked, new head groundsman is Steve Keans gardener

BRSIT and all the groups will be totally ignored , we need to be realistic,, money only and an investor will get us back up..kean has to go - end of, he is in total control and sacking everyone at the club..seriously why are Venkys keeping him ?, how can we get him out, fellow fans ???

BRSIT and the Action Group are doing all the right things in the right way. They are being taken seriously by the right people who could normally help influence things in our favour and help resolve the issues by bringing pressure to bear on the owners.

BUT the Venky's just wont talk to anyone. You can only negotiate and discuss if both parties are at the table and agree to talk.....and our Indian owners have never been 'kean' to do that. I am not sure what the solution is to the impasse that we are currently at.

Actually there is a very simple solution - and that is for Venky's to sell the club. Now. Next week. Maybe.

DaBoss wrote:
The destruction of Darlington FC and why it should matter to all of football - especially Rovers:

http://www.darlofc.c

o.uk/news.php?NewsID

=923

I read that on Twitter earlier today. And their owner was a Mr Raj Singh.
The FA are tossers too. Small clubs don't matter to them. Darlington's plight is the worse I've heard of.
We need to starve these owners out. No season tickets, no merchandise, no home support. The longer they stay, the worse it will end up.
Owners out.
Dark forces out.
Donut out.
Investigators in.

craftandgraft wrote:
Interstingly, even before the 'takeover'; Jerome Anderson told another 'interested party' that they could purchase BRFC from the Walker Trust provided......

He ( Jerome Anderson ) had a 20% stake AND that Steve Kean was made manager.

KEAN OUT.
KENTARO OUT.
AGNEW OUT.

Arte et Labore
ps. scandalous and illegal.

Is this fact - or hearsay? If you have evidence you need to pass it on initially to the Action Group.
Certainly Kean was elevated with remarkable haste and now seems to be in total control - or, perhaps, taking his orders from Anderson.

roverfor60.....alrea
dy done my friend.

Arte et Labore.
ps. my 'views' on what you think 'appears' to be going on are also well known.
yours sincerely
wez
sofu ltd.

With all this "manager go round" taking place, Venky's must be amazed that Steve Kean's name hasn't been mentioned as a potential replacement for any of the clubs. Wonder what his odds are for any of the posts??

Lies lies and more lies

Venkys = scum

Kean = scum

Anderson = scum

Scudimore please please listen, this will bring the downfall of football as we know it unless you act and get this vermin put of football altogether.

I believe Anderson has gone to pastures new but while Kean is still in place he still controls the majority of inward transfers.
Venkys are silent because they don't know what to do they sought advice from agents of all people,a bit like hiring a fox to look after chickens.
Kean is not bothered that season tickets are not back on sale because as soon as they are it will become obvious that they are not selling very well.
This is a very expensive time for venkys still paying wages but nothing coming in,only one way out of that is sell players but who is going to oversee that,Hans Christian are you available there is a put you up bed at Brockhall.

Glad to see the LT have upgraded this site, and that they are monitoring the comments on this website, as the previous one was just open to a stream of constant abuse, and rantings and ravings of some very low intelligence people. I am sure we all feel very agrieved at what has happened to Blackburn Rovers, and should be able to express our opinions, in a dignified and respectable way, without being pilloried by a few unintelligent Rovers fans, who thought that by shouting streams of abuse, on the previous format, it would change Venkys minds, about owning a club, they dont want them at. The only way is to boycott Ewood Park, until they realise there is no more money to be had. They will then have to sell, hopefully to people, who have Blackburn Rovers best interests at heart, whoever that may be.

NICEONESUNSHINE wrote:

Rover Pete wrote:
Where is Steve Kean?

Where is Paul Agnew?

Why is there no statement from either of them?

Preston have already signed 11 new Players for next season and we cannot be told where our two supposedly main men are!

What a complete shambles.

But there really is no way that anybody can do anything. Venky's will please themselves - it's their business and they can run it anyway they wish - and do. If it is not to our liking we should just stay away. Eventually the money will run out and when there is no more cash to be milked from Rovers Venky's will leave - and not a minute before.
Incidentally full marks and thanks to the Telegraph for the improved site.

Where is anyone who makes decisions? This club is so shambolic that you couldn't buy a season ticket right now even if you wanted one.....After the early bird promotion whoever runs the commercial side of the club have not released the prices nearly 4 weeks after the season ended. What the hell is that about? It seems to me that they, whoever "they"are, don't give a **** about the supporters or ticket revenue and are content to budget from the parachute payments...Sadly BRFC are a sad parody of the well run club that existed 20 months ago and it stinks like a Dingles armpit

Probably brushing up their CV's

There was so much false hope when we thought Kean was going to get the sack, now that he has gone on holiday it is clear the Venkys will stick with him. Drive these parasites out of the club- they want to drain every penny they can while they have an iron grip on the Rovers throat.

Bazzer wrote:

Iiii1111 wrote:

Bazzer wrote:

Iiii1111 wrote:

hasslem hasslem wrote: Peter Scudamore will not give a rat's arse about Blackburn Rovers from now on in. He looks after the premiership and we are in the championship....putt ing it quite simply from Scudamore's perspective - WE ARE SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROBLEM. . No doubt, he will listen and nod and give lots of positive vibes - but he does not give a monkeys, no matter how well argued the points from those attending the meeting. . Quite simply, the fit and proper persons test is nothing of the sort - look at Pompey, Saints, Dirties even City under a previous regime. The only criteria seems to be do you have a bit of cash? There was all sorts of talk a few years back about tightening up on FAPPT -but nowt seems to have been changed. . The only hope would appear to be that in future takeovers there are certain guarantees given - but ultimately venkys (if indeed they do own rovers) are free to keep kean on as a manager, dump JW, allardyce, Finn and stick two fingers up at everyone in blackburn (if they so wish). . Personally, i dont reckon our owners are asset strippers - i just think they were sold a puppy by bad advice down in london and have proved to be totally incompetent at managing a business from afar. the sooner they are gone the better.....but as porstsmouth can testify - the next lot may well be worse.

I tend to agree with most if not all your points Who are the ‘Dirties’?

Trouble is Hasslem, their experience up to now may well turn them into asset strippers - echoes of The Bhatti Brothers as I have stated so many times in the past. Make no bones about it, we are on the cusp.

always the happy hammer;-)

We shall not see Big Sam's likes again!!! I presume you raised a glass to hiss success?

Certainly remember the hiss coming from thousands!
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34th..

dont want hendry dont want kean

Morst The 88th Min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:

Bazzer wrote:

Iiii1111 wrote:

Bazzer wrote:

Iiii1111 wrote:

hasslem hasslem wrote: Peter Scudamore will not give a rat's arse about Blackburn Rovers from now on in. He looks after the premiership and we are in the championship....putt ing it quite simply from Scudamore's perspective - WE ARE SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROBLEM. . No doubt, he will listen and nod and give lots of positive vibes - but he does not give a monkeys, no matter how well argued the points from those attending the meeting. . Quite simply, the fit and proper persons test is nothing of the sort - look at Pompey, Saints, Dirties even City under a previous regime. The only criteria seems to be do you have a bit of cash? There was all sorts of talk a few years back about tightening up on FAPPT -but nowt seems to have been changed. . The only hope would appear to be that in future takeovers there are certain guarantees given - but ultimately venkys (if indeed they do own rovers) are free to keep kean on as a manager, dump JW, allardyce, Finn and stick two fingers up at everyone in blackburn (if they so wish). . Personally, i dont reckon our owners are asset strippers - i just think they were sold a puppy by bad advice down in london and have proved to be totally incompetent at managing a business from afar. the sooner they are gone the better.....but as porstsmouth can testify - the next lot may well be worse.

I tend to agree with most if not all your points Who are the ‘Dirties’?

Trouble is Hasslem, their experience up to now may well turn them into asset strippers - echoes of The Bhatti Brothers as I have stated so many times in the past. Make no bones about it, we are on the cusp.

always the happy hammer;-)

We shall not see Big Sam's likes again!!! I presume you raised a glass to hiss success?

Certainly remember the hiss coming from thousands! . 34th..

Well spotted Morst! I thought you had called time on your Big Sam faux pas?

NICEONESUNSHINE wrote:
Just to let you know that there's a poster pretending to be me. look out for the comma at the end of my name.I think its a Dingle but it could be that LYING fool from Bolton, Moses.

If he posts any racist stuff please report the fool to the police...Thanks

Don't worry sunshine i have a mate who is a senior detective i will ring him immediately the first time anybody calls you an idiot or questions your sexuality. if i can't get hold of him i will dial 999

I am sure the police will take this extremely seriously just like i have and if they don't i will ring mr scudamore, he will definitely sort it out.

Has anyone seen Kitman down at the training ground, or has he really b*ggered off on holiday ?

hasslem hasslem wrote:

BRFC The Peoples Champions wrote:

roverinmanchstr wrote:

hasslem hasslem wrote:
Peter Scudamore will not give a rat's arse about Blackburn Rovers from now on in. He looks after the premiership and we are in the championship....putt ing it quite simply from Scudamore's perspective - WE ARE SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROBLEM. . No doubt, he will listen and nod and give lots of positive vibes - but he does not give a monkeys, no matter how well argued the points from those attending the meeting. . Quite simply, the fit and proper persons test is nothing of the sort - look at Pompey, Saints, Dirties even City under a previous regime. The only criteria seems to be do you have a bit of cash? There was all sorts of talk a few years back about tightening up on FAPPT -but nowt seems to have been changed. . The only hope would appear to be that in future takeovers there are certain guarantees given - but ultimately venkys (if indeed they do own rovers) are free to keep kean on as a manager, dump JW, allardyce, Finn and stick two fingers up at everyone in blackburn (if they so wish). . Personally, i dont reckon our owners are asset strippers - i just think they were sold a puppy by bad advice down in london and have proved to be totally incompetent at managing a business from afar. the sooner they are gone the better.....but as porstsmouth can testify - the next lot may well be worse.

You really need to take a reality check......can't believe the 'poo' that you write

Has to be "controversial"



Malcontent, misfit and oddball more likely.

Has to disagree with everyone. Posts long banal comments. I haven't even read it, learned to scroll past them quite a long time ago now.

Probabaly a sock puppet... multiple account holder who posts a number of differing opinions and then sits back and watches the fall out.

I've come on here today and so far not a single Dingle... just straightforward footie talk.

Great. This fella wants the Burnley fans back.

err....no.
been coming on here for around 5 years. always called myself hasslem hasslem. no multiple accounts from me...ask your woody mate.
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i guess i do post long banal comments like many others - but you don't have to read them as you say.
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no idea what a sock puppet is.
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and as for no dingles on here - you would do well to look up voltaire.
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and i think the stuff you have engaged in with your fellow dingle chums in recent months is the cause behind this site disintegrating over the last few weeks. the only burnley fans that say anything constructive are vintageclaret and midas (pompeyclaret used to put some sensible stuff on - but he has not been on for ages)
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like your new name - are you going for a new record in the number of new monikers in a month?

Stop the bickering lads! We just need our rovers back so lets focus on that!!!!!

Date: November 2010
Place: Exec. board room/tv studio
Present: A bunch of muppets

Lord Sugar speakes 'Right your task this week on The Apprentice is to run a small northern Premier League club. Steve you'll be project manager and we'll meet again in 18 months to see how you got on, good luck!'

craftandgraft wrote:
roverfor60.....alrea

dy done my friend.

Arte et Labore.
ps. my 'views' on what you think 'appears' to be going on are also well known.
yours sincerely
wez
sofu ltd.

That's encouraging. Any chance you can (briefly) refresh my memory on your views? Thanks. Don't want to clog up the site. Just a link would be helpful.

Scamp Kingsley wrote:
Date: November 2010
Place: Exec. board room/tv studio
Present: A bunch of muppets

Lord Sugar speakes 'Right your task this week on The Apprentice is to run a small northern Premier League club. Steve you'll be project manager and we'll meet again in 18 months to see how you got on, good luck!'

The problem is they thought he said, "Northern Premier League club"!

Remember Venkys own Ewood park, they dont own the supporters. You as supporters dont own Ewood park and dont own the Venkys. They are under no obligation to answer to anyone about their business. If they wanted to they could close the club down and sell the land to who they want. Would make a nice park and ride area, or a housing development. Remember Venkeys are asset strippers and always will be.

makaveli96 wrote:
Scudamore attended Kingsfield School in Kingswood, Bristol, where he was Head Boy in his final year and which he left in 1977 -:

Look he's not one of us! He's posh, from the south, and shouldnt even be discussing our club!

We need to get back to basics and have BLACKBURN players playing in a NORTH/MIDLANDS league. Just like it was in 1888:-

Accrington
Aston Villaa
Blackburn Rovers
Bolton Wanderers
Burnley
Derby County
Everton
Notts County
Preston North End
Stoke
West Bromwich Albion
Wolverhampton Wanderers

Do you think we could win that league? Get into Champs League?

Above post....Not with Kean in charge!