Blackburn Rovers set for fresh takeover attempt (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Hmm, rumours rumours hay what i wonder what opinions are now dont say to much its just one of those conspiricy thearies i guess?

More gossip......tell us something real for a change!

I know what its like to get excited about takeover stories only to see them come to nothing. So this does not quite get the pulse racing yet but we will all be praying deep down it is Rovers they want.

The main question even if they are is still would venkys sell as Cryer points out. At the moment oil barons or not fans will see anyone as better than venkys. Maybe or maybe not but the gamble has to be taken. If these people are the front runners the word gamble does not come into it.

We should be hearing more about this from nixon later tonight.

Please be true.

Having a party when Baldy gets sacked....

trampus wrote:
More gossip......tell us something real for a change!

Cryer knows Nixon is planning to break a takeover story later tonight and probably wanted to beat him to it. He admitted on twitter he does not have any idea if anyone is buying the club.

Please God let it be true! Let the nightmare that is Venkys be over!

1- Finalise takeover
2- Sack Steve Kean
3- Throw a monster party!

YorkshireBlue wrote:
Please be true. Having a party when Baldy gets sacked....

so will20,000 others buddy

they would clear the clubs debts eh?? wasnt that supposed to be part of the venkys deal to clear our debt in fact im sure i read that was part of the agreement to buy the club...and these oil barons cant be willing to splash the cash if they are grumbling about paying for a stadium improvement.however ive had enough of venkys lying to us,not caring of how we feel,and there total lack of communication they are a joke and i want them out no matter what it takes they are ruining us

Vinjay wrote:

trampus wrote:
More gossip......tell us something real for a change!

Cryer knows Nixon is planning to break a takeover story later tonight and probably wanted to beat him to it. He admitted on twitter he does not have any idea if anyone is buying the club.

No he didn't at all. He said he has no idea if Venky's would sell.
Crazy times

I don't really see why cryer describes it as a shock bid. There's people like this looking at big premier league clubs all the time.

That is IF there is a bid. I'm not setting myself up for a false dawn had enough takeover stories come to nothing between 2003 and 2010 (Mamut, syed, etc)

We are the new Portsmouth. A new buyer every month soon

This group is apparently Qatar Petroleum one of the biggest oil companies in the world

Just heard they will offer Steve Kean free petrol for 12 months as part of his pay off.

hooray

Let's hope this is true, and the Venkys pack their bags and cluck off.

Considering the last takeover took 6 months to complete that should take us to the end of the season with mr. Pilkington still at the helm. Buckle up chucks its going to be a bumpy ride

i don't understand what strategic fit an oil company and a premier league football club have. the only successful takeovers that have occurred so far, are when multi-billionaire’
s with more money than sense want a football club for a) the power, and b) as a play thing.

i suppose or at least hope they realise that if they are allowed to buy the club, the club needs a massive input of funds in january. otherwise relegation is a strong possibility.

i also feel the venky's will agree to sell, if they aren't prepared to spend big in january. otherwise there is a strong possibility of relegation and a massive hit on their investment. so this potential bid could work in rovers fans favour, because either way we will probably sell substantial transfer funds in january. here's hoping.

Even if they took over and never put any money into the club apart from paying off venkyscum debt - and not ripping money out of Rovers like venkyscum - this would be brilliant.

VENKYSCUM OUT !

Oh and for what its worth my prediction is Venky's won't sell, but then again, I'm always wrong aren't I boys. In my eyes they took on a five year plan and its just twelve months in so I reckon, unless they are offered seriously stupid money, they will still be our owners in twelve months.

That's why we now need to force venkyscum out Keep Darwen Green.

I would rather see us starting next season in the Championship with new owners and no debt than somehow staying in the Premier League under the present scum.

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Considering the last takeover took 6 months to complete that should take us to the end of the season with mr. Pilkington still at the helm. Buckle up chucks its going to be a bumpy ride

You're not kidding! I think the wine cellar needs replenishing, I was a very casual drinker 12 months ago. I may be calling AA soon.

can you really see the venky selling up its more rumours about the takeover trust me.The venky said many times there here to stay for good.

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Oh and for what its worth my prediction is Venky's won't sell, but then again, I'm always wrong aren't I boys. In my eyes they took on a five year plan and its just twelve months in so I reckon, unless they are offered seriously stupid money, they will still be our owners in twelve months.

the venky's might be stubborn, but all we are to them is an investment. if they see their investment going bad and they can get their money back and perhaps make a small profit, who knows they might just sell.

i personally have never bought into the fact that their aim is to be a benefactor to rovers and make football into a major sport in india. they didn't even know anything about rovers when they bought us. from what i have read it was third parties convincing them it was a good business venture that convinced them to buy us. how many times have they been to ewood, and how many times have they given interviews/released statements where they give the impression out they don’t know what they are saying or doing. no I’d say there is a good chance they will want out, especially now they have had lots of free publicity.

Hmmm. Interesting .

This could (if true) be a great way out for Venky's. They have obviously mistaken buying a premiership team as an easy job. So far they have failed miserably, but are unwilling to 'back down' due to the possibilty of losing face. This way they could sell and move on without the loss of face that staying and seeing the club fail under their rule would bring.

I hope its true as i feel this would or could wipe the slate clean for a lot of us.

Lets see what happens. I jut hope its not just another thing to rock the boat for an all ready sinking ship.

Dare to dream......to coin a phrase:)

venkyscum aren't too bothered if we go down as the low rate loan they have taken out in the UK to finance the expansion of their chicken empire into europe has been leveraged against our potential parachute payments once we go down.

They will then cut us loose - bankrupt us in order to avoid their liabilities.

They win whatever - that is why we need to do everything we can to drive tham from our club.

That is what has been told to me.

Read Nixon's story now on Mirror web site,it better happen quick if we go down we are yesterdays news FOREVER.

Taxi for the Venky's

According to protesters it is QP not the sheikh story Nixon has posted

The story is in the Sunday People and it was not written by Alan Nixon.

The interest is very real. But Venkys are understood to be holding firm and not willing to sell.

1- Venkys sell us to this group. There soul aim is to buy a clubs way to Champions League football with immense wealth. That would mean multiple signings of excellent quality. Improved infrastructure at Blackburn Rovers and a better match atmosphere for all concerned.

Basically we might get back toward the same way we were in the early to mid 90's.

2- Venkys don't sell us. We stay exactly where we are or worse. The club debt increases. Results keep going the way they are. Attendances stay low. Relegation is likely. A added possibility that the club might go out of business.

This story is very VERY real!

If any of you want to see Blackburn Rovers heading back to the way it was instead of blindly hoping things will improve under the current manager and owners then fine. Stay sat on your **** in future games. Walk out at the end without so much as a peap!

If you really want to see our club get back to the way it once was in the brightest days of Jack Walker. Make some noise. Pass the word!

KEAN OUT - VENKYS OUT - QATAR PETROLIUM IN!!!

the mega-rich crown prince of Qatar is back in the market for a Premier League club after ­giving up on Manchester United.

And with £500million to spend, he has fixed his sights on ­strugglers Everton and Blackburn Rovers.

Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad Al-Thani, heir to the throne of Qatar, had been bidding to buy United.

But he decided that the asking price of around £2billion was too much – with Old Trafford’s ­controlling Glazer family in no mood to do business.

Now People Sport can reveal that the prince’s representatives, both in Qatar and working with ­influential figures in England, have been ­investigating Everton and Blackburn as their latest ‘projects’.

The prince’s company already has a major stake in French outfit Paris Saint-Germain and there are family ties with Spanish side Malaga.

Now he wants a Premier League club to buy and stock with stars.

A top Arab source revealed: “The sheikh had his heart set on ­Manchester Untied, but now he knows he must go ­elsewhere and find a club – perhaps to prove a point.

“There is a budget set aside to buy a club, but it has to be right. They want to spend most of the money on players to reach the Champions League.

“This is a plan to get Qatar high profile in the best league in the world.

“Although ­money is no object, they will not be ripped off.”

United’s loss could be a rival club’s gain as the amount of cash being spoken about could transform a smaller club into top-four contenders – and raise the stakes at the summit of the table.Everton are up for sale at the right price, with interest ­being shown by the Indian-based Jain Group, but the valuation is putting off Al-Thani.

A leading football power broker has been working on the deal in recent weeks, but it is proving a tough nut to crack ­because the ­numbers do not appeal to the Arabs.

Bill Kenwright is looking for around £120m for Everton, although that price is negotiable. The Toffees are carrying debts and there will be a massive bill if the buyer wants to build a new ground.

Instead, bizarrely, Blackburn have emerged as an option – with insiders ­claiming the Qataris have been to Lancashire and India in the past week.

Rovers were bought by the Venky’s Group a year ago, but the Indians have suffered problems – with results on the field and their image off it.

Face

If the Qataris could buy Rovers at the Venky’s purchase price, and inherit their debt, it would leave an unbelievable ­amount of cash for new players.

However, sources at Ewood Park claim that not even a whacking profit would make the Rao family walk away now.

They have invested heavily in making Blackburn ‘India’s Premier League club’ and they do not want to lose face.

Word of the potential Qatari investor has flashed around football in the past few days, and agents working for other clubs have been trying frantically to court them to find out if they are interested.

As one senior Premier League official said: “This would be Christmas come early and often for someone.

“The big clubs are either not for sale or just not interested.

“But one of the rest of us could get really lucky and come into a fortune at a time when so many are tightening their belts.”

Football fan Sheikh Tamim managed to get his company’s name on Barcelona’s shirts, a remarkable development.

But United proved outside his grasp, with the Glazers refusing to sit down with him.

If the perspective buyers want a premier league club they better be quick if they want Blackburn! Time is running out fast for the current bunch of managerless incompetents

fck off venkys. sell up now and take your muppet/puppet sycophant kean with you.

KEAN OUT - VENKYS OUT.

fck off venkys. sell up now and take your muppet/puppet sycophant kean with you.

KEAN OUT - VENKYS OUT.

Clutching at very short straws the lot of you,face it your doomed.

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Oh and for what its worth my prediction is Venky's won't sell, but then again, I'm always wrong aren't I boys. In my eyes they took on a five year plan and its just twelve months in so I reckon, unless they are offered seriously stupid money, they will still be our owners in twelve months.

You know I don't like to agree with you but in this case I do - I think Venkies will not sell unless they were to receive a huge profit on their investment - otherwise they do have their own (secretive) plan and they'll stick with it.
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But this will just show how little they actually care about the club - preventing someone who would be hugely beneficial and could transform us back to previous glories, just for their own petty, selfish motives.
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If they turn down this sale then don't seriously invest in the club themselves then ALL Rovers fans must never forget and never forgive them.

Hmmm,

Why would they not want to build a new stadium if they are so rich?

Could well be tomsh1ttery, hopefully not

VENKYS OUT

in moses we trust wrote:
Clutching at very short straws the lot of you,face it your doomed.

Moses, yes you are right - but then again we are drowning so who wouldnt be grasping at any straws - let alone one that might pump £500m into player purchases.

Sherwoodforest wrote:
Hmmm,

Why would they not want to build a new stadium if they are so rich?

Could well be tomsh1ttery, hopefully not

VENKYS OUT

They don't want to build a stadium, they just want to get into improving the playing side without having to wait by getting the infrastructure in place first.
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This was why City were so atractive to their arab buyers - they could just start pumping money into purchases and also was the big stumbling block for Liverpool when the Dubai Royal family were looking to buy them a few years back.
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Its nothing to with money its just basically, they can't be arsed waiting and it seems they'd rather spend cash on buying players than bricks and mortar.

Sherwoodforest wrote:
Hmmm,

Why would they not want to build a new stadium if they are so rich?

Could well be tomsh1ttery, hopefully not

VENKYS OUT

They don't want to build a stadium, they just want to get into improving the playing side without having to wait by getting the infrastructure in place first.
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This was why City were so atractive to their arab buyers - they could just start pumping money into purchases and also was the big stumbling block for Liverpool when the Dubai Royal family were looking to buy them a few years back.
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Its nothing to with money its just basically, they can't be arsed waiting and it seems they'd rather spend cash on buying players than bricks and mortar.

you are quite right stavka and look where Portsmouth are now!.Hope this does not scupper any transfer monies that Venkys might be concidering spending in january ?

Please God make Venkys do the RIGHT thing here and STAND ASIDE.
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This could be the last time (possibly ever) that someone with this amount of cash shows any interest in our small club - we HAVE sell to these people, if we possibly can.
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Venkys, forget your "pride", if you have any feelings at all for BRFC then you HAVE to stand aside and allow these people to come in and purchase our club.
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They (unlike Venkies) don't just talk a good game - they produce one - they have been as good as their word, pumping dozens of millions into the purchase of players at both PSG and Malaga (yes I know technically the owners at Malaga are slightly different but they are all from the same family and their money all comes from the same source, the Qatar oil fields).
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Venkys, your year in charge has been an unmitigated disaster but, for once (I am sure that ALL rovers fans will agree with this statement) - DO THE RIGHT THING FOR THE GOOD OF THE CLUB AND SELL UP !!

Gaz M wrote:
you are quite right stavka and look where Portsmouth are now!.Hope this does not scupper any transfer monies that Venkys might be concidering spending in january ?

Gaz - I can't believe what you have written.
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This is the Qatar Royal family - not some cheap imitator.
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If you think they have not got any money or won't put in any to the English club they buy then look at the money have spent at PSG.
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Do you HONESTLY believe we would be better off staying with Venkys rather than selling to the Qatar Royal family ??

Venkys have been all talk and little action other than pocketing money from transfers - last night Phil Jones showed exactly what Rovers have missed and not replaced.

Can anybody do worse than Venkys? Maybe they will offer SK a job as Academy Director in Pune as a parting gift

There are a few big problems that some people are not taking into account.
If they were taken over by the oil barons on the basis that they want to transform the club into a Champions League team, they can't splash out these massive amounts of money on players and wages as FIFA's new financial play laws started this season.
They would be barred from entering the Champions League and Europa Cup.
This is why Venkys have signed young inexperienced players on low wages just to stand a slight chance of getting into Europe.
Rovers have a relatively new ground and the capacity is about right as new fans are hard to find whilst money is tight.
Prices will have to go up in the near future just to get the wages to turnover ratio down,and then most fans will not pay the extra ticket price.
Like it or not Rovers will become a selling club with no prospects in the next 20 years of ever challenging for honours unless 200,000 new homes are built in the area and thats just not going to happen.
The only thing they can do is try and keep the club within the top ten and thats about the best any rovers fan can hope for.
As much as it pains me i'm a lifelong Rovers fan, so effectively we are stuck with Venkys but we don't have to be stuck with Kean.

If the chicken pluckers could be provided with a tidy profit, then no loss of face. Job done. Everyone happy. Nightmare turns to wet dream. There really is a God ? If only ...

J C The point i was trying to make was that if at all this story is all b****ks and just scaremongering it might be just the excuse Venkys need for them not to spend in January .If there is any substance to the story i would welcome the new owners with open arms as i do believe that Venkys are slowly destroying our club.

1.hopefully this is true 2.get a new manager 3.saudi owners wil spend money 4.hopefully move up table

i wonder if this is why steve kean has got a new contract? so if they do sell he will get a bigger pay out? just a thought ?

Well anything is better than the mess the Venkey's have made of our once proud football club.

I HOPE TO...
Good Bye indian chicken f@ckers and give stev kead a good gob plucking

If this happens it will be a major embarrament for Lancashire Telegraph. You have snubbed the fans protests and backed Venkys and Kean up to the hilt. We will not forget that you should have been a voice for the Rovers fans. The very people who buy and keep your paper going.

Suffolk n Watt wrote:
There are a few big problems that some people are not taking into account.
If they were taken over by the oil barons on the basis that they want to transform the club into a Champions League team, they can't splash out these massive amounts of money on players and wages as FIFA's new financial play laws started this season.
They would be barred from entering the Champions League and Europa Cup.
This is why Venkys have signed young inexperienced players on low wages just to stand a slight chance of getting into Europe.
Rovers have a relatively new ground and the capacity is about right as new fans are hard to find whilst money is tight.
Prices will have to go up in the near future just to get the wages to turnover ratio down,and then most fans will not pay the extra ticket price.
Like it or not Rovers will become a selling club with no prospects in the next 20 years of ever challenging for honours unless 200,000 new homes are built in the area and thats just not going to happen.
The only thing they can do is try and keep the club within the top ten and thats about the best any rovers fan can hope for.
As much as it pains me i'm a lifelong Rovers fan, so effectively we are stuck with Venkys but we don't have to be stuck with Kean.

I am sorry but are you saying we should stick with Venkys over the Qatar Royal family cos if they pumped millions of £s into us and we qualified from the champions league then we would be barred from entering the competition ?.
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That is completely illogical - I would rather finish 4th in the EPL and NOT allowed to play in Europe than finish 16th in the EPL and not qualify for Europe anyway.
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Also Sir Alex said recently that he didnt believe that these "financial restrictions or club barings" from the Champions league would happen -and I agree with him.
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At the moment - City and Chelsea, prob Man U, AC Milan and Barcelona would all not qualify - can you honestly see these clubs being bared from the competition ?? - it will never happen because the TV companies simply would not allow it

Gaz M wrote:
J C The point i was trying to make was that if at all this story is all b****ks and just scaremongering it might be just the excuse Venkys need for them not to spend in January .If there is any substance to the story i would welcome the new owners with open arms as i do believe that Venkys are slowly destroying our club.

Ok fair enough, sorry I didnt get your point originally and I usually think you talk a lot of sense

Also in the running to buy trampwood park is, Honest finbar The gypsy rag 'n' bone man, He is a typical blackburner and has offered £500 to take over the helm, Well i would certainly trust finbar over venkys....

nontetleydrinker wrote:
Also in the running to buy trampwood park is, Honest finbar The gypsy rag 'n' bone man, He is a typical blackburner and has offered £500 to take over the helm, Well i would certainly trust finbar over venkys....

even that would be better than venky's, dingle.

Excellent news should it be of substance ?

BRFC needs real football people in place NOW !

Until that time 3 points required at Wigan

Ive just emailed Him


The heir apparent

Fingers, Toes and Rovers Scarves Crossed

Save Our Club

a trip to Quatar is shorter than one to Poona .
considering that Berlusconi has been replaced by a banker , I would say that money talks. so no worries about spending money, despite EUFA.
same problem though with the kowtowing by the manager, and probably the travelling.
they would probably go for a foreign manager.
Venkys could buy Accrington or Chorley , or Dagenham say , which would suit them better.

i'm not getting too excited about this yet. the people newspaper broke the story (not the most reliable news agency). nobody else i.e. sky, the bbc, and other newspapers have mentioned this yet (apart from the mirror, who is the people's sister paper). either its very early days and the other news agencies are waiting on something concrete before they publish the story. or its just another rumour about another consortium looking to bid for a premiership club.

apparantly venky's have said NO SALE

adcr wrote:
i'm not getting too excited about this yet. the people newspaper broke the story (not the most reliable news agency). nobody else i.e. sky, the bbc, and other newspapers have mentioned this yet (apart from the mirror, who is the people's sister paper). either its very early days and the other news agencies are waiting on something concrete before they publish the story. or its just another rumour about another consortium looking to bid for a premiership club.

You are right of course that its all a rumour put about by a newspaper - and not a particular reliable one at that.
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You are also right when you say we should wait and see before getting too excited - but in truth its hard not to get excited - not only do we have a chance to get rid of those bungaling buffoons from India but our prospective new owners have genuine wealth - wealth that can match any other football owner anywhere in the world.
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What IS fact though is that these people have already bought PSG and pumped millions into them and it is also fact they have been talking to Everton about buying them out and that they have been unhappy at the figures that Bill Kenright is talking about (£120m to buy Everton, clear the debt, approx £70-£80m and build a new ground - £200m ??). This is one reason that Everton fans recently marched in protest against Kenwright because they see him as pricing out, what would be a fantastic potential buyer for their club.
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It is also well known that this family wants to own an English Premier League club and have been looking for one to buy for a couple of years now - if it dosent turn out to be Everton or Blackburn it will be one lucky club sooner or later.

rovertilldie wrote:
1.hopefully this is true 2.get a new manager 3.saudi owners wil spend money 4.hopefully move up table

Geography not your strongest subject, I see.

Just as I feared, a lot of posters and people are already on cloud cuckoo land. You need to step back and calm down. All this talk of Qatar has started rocks clanging in heads. Don't get me wrong, I think that everyone wants to see an improvement in our status. But on this occasion and for once in his life Moses is correct and there is a lot of straw clutching going on. If Venky's don't want to sell they will still be our owners and some of the vile comments that have been written on here already just shows the head space some of our supporters live in.
What if they don't sell, what if they want to stay, what if all the rainbow chasers amongst you are blinded by the pound signs and the money never materialises. Its only more likely to wind you up even more.
So for me, if it happens it happens but for now Venky's are the owners and I won't sink so low as to call them pathetic names. Grow some and don't peddle your sewage in public.

J.C - Rishton wrote:

adcr wrote:
i'm not getting too excited about this yet. the people newspaper broke the story (not the most reliable news agency). nobody else i.e. sky, the bbc, and other newspapers have mentioned this yet (apart from the mirror, who is the people's sister paper). either its very early days and the other news agencies are waiting on something concrete before they publish the story. or its just another rumour about another consortium looking to bid for a premiership club.

You are right of course that its all a rumour put about by a newspaper - and not a particular reliable one at that.
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You are also right when you say we should wait and see before getting too excited - but in truth its hard not to get excited - not only do we have a chance to get rid of those bungaling buffoons from India but our prospective new owners have genuine wealth - wealth that can match any other football owner anywhere in the world.
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What IS fact though is that these people have already bought PSG and pumped millions into them and it is also fact they have been talking to Everton about buying them out and that they have been unhappy at the figures that Bill Kenright is talking about (£120m to buy Everton, clear the debt, approx £70-£80m and build a new ground - £200m ??). This is one reason that Everton fans recently marched in protest against Kenwright because they see him as pricing out, what would be a fantastic potential buyer for their club.
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It is also well known that this family wants to own an English Premier League club and have been looking for one to buy for a couple of years now - if it dosent turn out to be Everton or Blackburn it will be one lucky club sooner or later.

yes, it is potentially very exciting (if true). but, i thought that it was illegal to own two football clubs at the same time. as this is a conflict of interest. i know this is definately true for teams in the premier league. but i also thought it would apply in europe. i mean what if rovers met psg in the european cup. there i go getting carried away again. lol

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Just as I feared, a lot of posters and people are already on cloud cuckoo land. You need to step back and calm down. All this talk of Qatar has started rocks clanging in heads. Don't get me wrong, I think that everyone wants to see an improvement in our status. But on this occasion and for once in his life Moses is correct and there is a lot of straw clutching going on. If Venky's don't want to sell they will still be our owners and some of the vile comments that have been written on here already just shows the head space some of our supporters live in.
What if they don't sell, what if they want to stay, what if all the rainbow chasers amongst you are blinded by the pound signs and the money never materialises. Its only more likely to wind you up even more.
So for me, if it happens it happens but for now Venky's are the owners and I won't sink so low as to call them pathetic names. Grow some and don't peddle your sewage in public.

kdg, your right about being respectful and staying calm, until something concrete happens. but i am still going to allow myself a little bit of excitement. because not many teams are lucky enough to find that in their darkest hour a white knight might ride in and save the day. don't forget without hope everything is lost.

If, and I say a big IF, this story is true and Venky`s refuse to sell, and these Arabs go and buy another club. How many Rovers fans would walk away never to return?
The venky`s had better think about this very carefully.

Anyone who believes anything that andy cryer writes or believes one shred of the qatar takeover story musy be as deluded as baldy b*****d.Lots of us want baldy out and venkys but it ain't gonna happen.I've boycotted the last 2 games and they'll only only take notice if we hit them in the pocket

Anyone who believes anything that andy cryer writes or believes one shred of the qatar takeover story musy be as deluded as baldy b*****d.Lots of us want baldy out and venkys but it ain't gonna happen.I've boycotted the last 2 games and they'll only only take notice if we hit them in the pocket

Mrs Desai woke up this morning and found a horses head in her bed but has told LET that she will not sell.she stated that keeping that nice Mr Kean was more important than profit has she has already proved.

Anyone who believes anything that andy cryer writes or believes one shred of the qatar takeover story musy be as deluded as baldy b*****d.Lots of us want baldy out and venkys but it ain't gonna happen.I've boycotted the last 2 games and they'll only only take notice if we hit them in the pocket

Vinjay wrote:
I know what its like to get excited about takeover stories only to see them come to nothing. So this does not quite get the pulse racing yet but we will all be praying deep down it is Rovers they want.

The main question even if they are is still would venkys sell as Cryer points out. At the moment oil barons or not fans will see anyone as better than venkys. Maybe or maybe not but the gamble has to be taken. If these people are the front runners the word gamble does not come into it.

We should be hearing more about this from nixon later tonight.

Maybe this could be liberation day, eh Vinjay?

FARAWAYROVER wrote:
Anyone who believes anything that andy cryer writes or believes one shred of the qatar takeover story musy be as deluded as baldy b*****d.Lots of us want baldy out and venkys but it ain't gonna happen.I've boycotted the last 2 games and they'll only only take notice if we hit them in the pocket

Why can it not happen?

COWBOYS from India OUT! Arabs IN!

Stone Island wrote:
COWBOYS from India OUT! Arabs IN!

Rainbow chaser

Keep Darwen Green wrote:

Stone Island wrote:
COWBOYS from India OUT! Arabs IN!

Rainbow chaser

Absolutely!

J.C - Rishton wrote:

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Oh and for what its worth my prediction is Venky's won't sell, but then again, I'm always wrong aren't I boys. In my eyes they took on a five year plan and its just twelve months in so I reckon, unless they are offered seriously stupid money, they will still be our owners in twelve months.

You know I don't like to agree with you but in this case I do - I think Venkies will not sell unless they were to receive a huge profit on their investment - otherwise they do have their own (secretive) plan and they'll stick with it.
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But this will just show how little they actually care about the club - preventing someone who would be hugely beneficial and could transform us back to previous glories, just for their own petty, selfish motives.
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If they turn down this sale then don't seriously invest in the club themselves then ALL Rovers fans must never forget and never forgive them.

The Darwen Hag would love this story to be false, you can just sense it in the tone of her post - another arrogant contribution from a Kean/Venky lickspittle.

adcr wrote:

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Just as I feared, a lot of posters and people are already on cloud cuckoo land. You need to step back and calm down. All this talk of Qatar has started rocks clanging in heads. Don't get me wrong, I think that everyone wants to see an improvement in our status. But on this occasion and for once in his life Moses is correct and there is a lot of straw clutching going on. If Venky's don't want to sell they will still be our owners and some of the vile comments that have been written on here already just shows the head space some of our supporters live in.
What if they don't sell, what if they want to stay, what if all the rainbow chasers amongst you are blinded by the pound signs and the money never materialises. Its only more likely to wind you up even more.
So for me, if it happens it happens but for now Venky's are the owners and I won't sink so low as to call them pathetic names. Grow some and don't peddle your sewage in public.

kdg, your right about being respectful and staying calm, until something concrete happens. but i am still going to allow myself a little bit of excitement. because not many teams are lucky enough to find that in their darkest hour a white knight might ride in and save the day. don't forget without hope everything is lost.

Yes KDG - you are tight about being "calm" and "respectful" - so why not try fcuking doing it?

I'm usually very suspicious of takeovers, and the motives behind them, as I was with Venky's. But I'd take these Arabs tomorrow. No one, and I mean NO ONE, could do any worse than the jokers we have now.

I REALLY hope this is true and that a new takeover will happen. Nothing can be worse than the morons at Venkys.
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VENKYS OUT!!!
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VENKYS OUT!!!
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VENKYS OUT!!!

This probably a load of rubbish. But, if Venkys go, lets hope they take Kean with them. In fact, lets hope its part of the deal to buy the club
100% for the players
0% for Kean

EVIL

If there's any justice Kean, Anderson and Venkys will pay for this. Rot in hell all of them.

There is talk that whichever club they buy will be getting a new manager (Carlo Ancelotti is their preferred choice)

Please buy ,Kean/Venkys out,we want our rovers back !

Just been on Granada news that Venkys have dismissed claims and are not willing to sell.

ossyrover1 wrote:
apparantly venky's have said NO SALE

as i said earlier, the slumdogs dont want to sell. deal off.

Smacx25 wrote:
If this happens it will be a major embarrament for Lancashire Telegraph. You have snubbed the fans protests and backed Venkys and Kean up to the hilt. We will not forget that you should have been a voice for the Rovers fans. The very people who buy and keep your paper going.

I think the LT has been very balanced . I also think the protestors are in a minority

Baldly goes wrote:

Smacx25 wrote: If this happens it will be a major embarrament for Lancashire Telegraph. You have snubbed the fans protests and backed Venkys and Kean up to the hilt. We will not forget that you should have been a voice for the Rovers fans. The very people who buy and keep your paper going.

I think the LT has been very balanced . I also think the protestors are in a minority

Shut up tit

J.C - Rishton wrote:

Suffolk n Watt wrote:
There are a few big problems that some people are not taking into account.
If they were taken over by the oil barons on the basis that they want to transform the club into a Champions League team, they can't splash out these massive amounts of money on players and wages as FIFA's new financial play laws started this season.
They would be barred from entering the Champions League and Europa Cup.
This is why Venkys have signed young inexperienced players on low wages just to stand a slight chance of getting into Europe.
Rovers have a relatively new ground and the capacity is about right as new fans are hard to find whilst money is tight.
Prices will have to go up in the near future just to get the wages to turnover ratio down,and then most fans will not pay the extra ticket price.
Like it or not Rovers will become a selling club with no prospects in the next 20 years of ever challenging for honours unless 200,000 new homes are built in the area and thats just not going to happen.
The only thing they can do is try and keep the club within the top ten and thats about the best any rovers fan can hope for.
As much as it pains me i'm a lifelong Rovers fan, so effectively we are stuck with Venkys but we don't have to be stuck with Kean.

I am sorry but are you saying we should stick with Venkys over the Qatar Royal family cos if they pumped millions of £s into us and we qualified from the champions league then we would be barred from entering the competition ?.
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That is completely illogical - I would rather finish 4th in the EPL and NOT allowed to play in Europe than finish 16th in the EPL and not qualify for Europe anyway.
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Also Sir Alex said recently that he didnt believe that these "financial restrictions or club barings" from the Champions league would happen -and I agree with him.
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At the moment - City and Chelsea, prob Man U, AC Milan and Barcelona would all not qualify - can you honestly see these clubs being bared from the competition ?? - it will never happen because the TV companies simply would not allow it

This is why Man City are trying to wipe out their overspending with a 10year £400 million pound sponsorship,which has been pointed out that it's an inflated deal just to overcome their spending woes.
No oil baron would want to put in massive amounts of money unless they got a champions league spot as where would they make any money from.
Utd have been under the wages to turnover ratio for years and would qualify,Chelsea spent a massive amount the year before and will not spend anywhere near what they have done in the last few years anymore.
Barcelona are just on the cusp of qualifying as Cesc Fabregas had to take a pay cut just to join them.
Its a catch 22 situation that will only make the big clubs even bigger.
It will be 3 years before the barring starts so many will be trying to get their house in order.

dancav wrote:
Just been on Granada news that Venkys have dismissed claims and are not willing to sell.

maybe the venkys are trying to bump up the price.

Suffolk n Watt wrote:

J.C - Rishton wrote:

Suffolk n Watt wrote:
There are a few big problems that some people are not taking into account.
If they were taken over by the oil barons on the basis that they want to transform the club into a Champions League team, they can't splash out these massive amounts of money on players and wages as FIFA's new financial play laws started this season.
They would be barred from entering the Champions League and Europa Cup.
This is why Venkys have signed young inexperienced players on low wages just to stand a slight chance of getting into Europe.
Rovers have a relatively new ground and the capacity is about right as new fans are hard to find whilst money is tight.
Prices will have to go up in the near future just to get the wages to turnover ratio down,and then most fans will not pay the extra ticket price.
Like it or not Rovers will become a selling club with no prospects in the next 20 years of ever challenging for honours unless 200,000 new homes are built in the area and thats just not going to happen.
The only thing they can do is try and keep the club within the top ten and thats about the best any rovers fan can hope for.
As much as it pains me i'm a lifelong Rovers fan, so effectively we are stuck with Venkys but we don't have to be stuck with Kean.

I am sorry but are you saying we should stick with Venkys over the Qatar Royal family cos if they pumped millions of £s into us and we qualified from the champions league then we would be barred from entering the competition ?.
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That is completely illogical - I would rather finish 4th in the EPL and NOT allowed to play in Europe than finish 16th in the EPL and not qualify for Europe anyway.
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Also Sir Alex said recently that he didnt believe that these "financial restrictions or club barings" from the Champions league would happen -and I agree with him.
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At the moment - City and Chelsea, prob Man U, AC Milan and Barcelona would all not qualify - can you honestly see these clubs being bared from the competition ?? - it will never happen because the TV companies simply would not allow it

This is why Man City are trying to wipe out their overspending with a 10year £400 million pound sponsorship,which has been pointed out that it's an inflated deal just to overcome their spending woes.
No oil baron would want to put in massive amounts of money unless they got a champions league spot as where would they make any money from.
Utd have been under the wages to turnover ratio for years and would qualify,Chelsea spent a massive amount the year before and will not spend anywhere near what they have done in the last few years anymore.
Barcelona are just on the cusp of qualifying as Cesc Fabregas had to take a pay cut just to join them.
Its a catch 22 situation that will only make the big clubs even bigger.
It will be 3 years before the barring starts so many will be trying to get their house in order.

I understand where you are coming from but like Sir Alex - I don't agree with you, when push comes to shove no club will be excluded, a deal will be done with FIFA and these new measures will be postponed or clubs will simply get round it by the owners putting in the investment under the guise of "sponsership" - the sponsers and TV companies want the best, not necessarily the best run and, as the saying goes "he who pays the piper, calles the tune".
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Also what you have said dosent hold water either when you look at other small clubs round Europe that are getting hugh outside investment into.
Anzhi - Russian club that employs the "highest paid player in world football" and also Malaga (a club of similar size to Rovers) who just happen to have been bought by one of the Qatar princes - your FIFA rules dosent seem to be bothering these new owners, they are both planning to plough millions into their clubs and have said this is the start of their player investment.
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Also, who cares if we got barred from playing in European comps anyway - we arn't at the moment nor will we if this downward spiral carries on. I would rather have huge investment in the club and then worry about "Champions league exclusion" if that problem ever arose.
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I don't see many Man City fans worrying about it and I don't see any planned slow down in player investment either - like city, clubs will just get round it by larger sponsership deals from their own owners

ossyrover1 wrote:

ossyrover1 wrote:
apparantly venky's have said NO SALE

as i said earlier, the slumdogs dont want to sell. deal off.

There's a lot of hearsay on this potential bid and a LOT of people claiming to be 'in the know'. We need to keep some healthy scepticism in mind.

If a Qatar billionaire was seriously interested in buying a Premier League club, and wanted a club already with the infrastructure available, for sure, Rovers would be a sensible purchase.

Considering they'd have to pump in around £300-400 million to Everton for a new stadium, then raising their bid for Rovers by 20 or so million is absolute peanuts considering.

My point is: if they truly wanted Rovers/a PL club, they'd make a higher bid to Venkys.

People who claim to be in the know, may know some info, but they can never know the whole story. If this Qatar billionaire wanted to force Venkys to sell he could quite easily double his opening bid (again, peanuts compared to the cash outlay required at Everton). If they don't re-bid, then I question how serious THEY are about buying a PL club.

Will be interesting to see how this pans out. If the whole story becomes available that Venkys truly blocked a buy out from a billionaire, will Rovers fans ever forgive Venkys?

We'll be left in the Championship thinking what might have been.
-D.K.O

Venkys have a proven track record looking after Rovers- a disaster

The only reason they will sell is for the right price in their opinion - by which time any potential investor will have looked elsewhere.

However did Rovers get landed with these people they are not what you call the best advert for India thats for sure

One shutters to think what there attitude to Rovers will be if they are relegated - another Portsmouth or even worse Charlton into League 1 - it could happen Rovers

RoversLoyal wrote:

J.C - Rishton wrote:

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Oh and for what its worth my prediction is Venky's won't sell, but then again, I'm always wrong aren't I boys. In my eyes they took on a five year plan and its just twelve months in so I reckon, unless they are offered seriously stupid money, they will still be our owners in twelve months.

You know I don't like to agree with you but in this case I do - I think Venkies will not sell unless they were to receive a huge profit on their investment - otherwise they do have their own (secretive) plan and they'll stick with it.
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But this will just show how little they actually care about the club - preventing someone who would be hugely beneficial and could transform us back to previous glories, just for their own petty, selfish motives.
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If they turn down this sale then don't seriously invest in the club themselves then ALL Rovers fans must never forget and never forgive them.

The Darwen Hag would love this story to be false, you can just sense it in the tone of her post - another arrogant contribution from a Kean/Venky lickspittle.

Is that your take on the subject? I would have preferred an opinion like stone islands or adcr, at least they have one, instead of your usual stalking, do you have an opinion on anything but what I post? Why do you wait until I post and then jump on it like some deranged nutter from broadmoore? Are you Ian Huntley with computer time? probably frothing at the mouth yanking the end off it waiting for the taser squad to arrive.
So, whats your opinion? Nightstalker

If it's true, they have to sell. That is what would be best for our club. If we find out they didn't sell to the quataris ai would never go again.

"Very interesting Mr Bond" as they say. I think the Chicken truckers know they are out of their depth and would welcome a tidy buyout. In B.R.F.C you have a true gem, 1 of only 4 clubs to have won the prem, 20,000 solid fans and potential for 30-35,000 in 10 years, a supreme training ground and a ground in an amazing location with room to grow. Away fans love coming to Ewood, they get straight off the motorway and then get a huge pub all to themselves (Fernhurst). Me and the lads down the industrial estate were just talking about this a few days ago

"Very interesting Mr Bond" as they say. I think the Chicken truckers know they are out of their depth and would welcome a tidy buyout. In B.R.F.C you have a true gem, 1 of only 4 clubs to have won the prem, 20,000 solid fans and potential for 30-35,000 in 10 years, a supreme training ground and a ground in an amazing location with room to grow. Away fans love coming to Ewood, they get straight off the motorway and then get a huge pub all to themselves (Fernhurst). Me and the lads down the industrial estate were just talking about this a few days ago

Please be true my lord, please be true
please be true mt lord, please be true
please be true my lord, please be true
oh lord please be true.
KEAN OUT!!! VENKYS OUT!!!
Missing 4000 back in

ChrisSutton wrote:

ossyrover1 wrote:

ossyrover1 wrote:
apparantly venky's have said NO SALE

as i said earlier, the slumdogs dont want to sell. deal off.

There's a lot of hearsay on this potential bid and a LOT of people claiming to be 'in the know'. We need to keep some healthy scepticism in mind.

If a Qatar billionaire was seriously interested in buying a Premier League club, and wanted a club already with the infrastructure available, for sure, Rovers would be a sensible purchase.

Considering they'd have to pump in around £300-400 million to Everton for a new stadium, then raising their bid for Rovers by 20 or so million is absolute peanuts considering.

My point is: if they truly wanted Rovers/a PL club, they'd make a higher bid to Venkys.

People who claim to be in the know, may know some info, but they can never know the whole story. If this Qatar billionaire wanted to force Venkys to sell he could quite easily double his opening bid (again, peanuts compared to the cash outlay required at Everton). If they don't re-bid, then I question how serious THEY are about buying a PL club.

Will be interesting to see how this pans out. If the whole story becomes available that Venkys truly blocked a buy out from a billionaire, will Rovers fans ever forgive Venkys?

We'll be left in the Championship thinking what might have been.
-D.K.O

Chris - Unfortunatley I don't think these arabs operate by saying "I like it - I'm having it at any price" - everyone who deals with them knows they have pots of money but if they are made to pay over the odds then they just walk away - this was evident when the Dubai royals were looking at Liverpool - overall buyout/setup costs (similar to the Everton problem now).
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I don't think Venkys will sell because they are set on this "Rovers in India" theme. I think the only chance we have is if they sell a majority share to the Qataris and keep a minority holding and so the can still have a Rovers academy in Pune, still have the Rovers shops and still get Rovers over for games - this isnt that outlandish as when the Quatris recently bought PSG they only bought 70% of the club - the previous owners retained 30% share in the club.

J.C - Rishton wrote:

ChrisSutton wrote:

ossyrover1 wrote:

ossyrover1 wrote:
apparantly venky's have said NO SALE

as i said earlier, the slumdogs dont want to sell. deal off.

There's a lot of hearsay on this potential bid and a LOT of people claiming to be 'in the know'. We need to keep some healthy scepticism in mind.

If a Qatar billionaire was seriously interested in buying a Premier League club, and wanted a club already with the infrastructure available, for sure, Rovers would be a sensible purchase.

Considering they'd have to pump in around £300-400 million to Everton for a new stadium, then raising their bid for Rovers by 20 or so million is absolute peanuts considering.

My point is: if they truly wanted Rovers/a PL club, they'd make a higher bid to Venkys.

People who claim to be in the know, may know some info, but they can never know the whole story. If this Qatar billionaire wanted to force Venkys to sell he could quite easily double his opening bid (again, peanuts compared to the cash outlay required at Everton). If they don't re-bid, then I question how serious THEY are about buying a PL club.

Will be interesting to see how this pans out. If the whole story becomes available that Venkys truly blocked a buy out from a billionaire, will Rovers fans ever forgive Venkys?

We'll be left in the Championship thinking what might have been.
-D.K.O

Chris - Unfortunatley I don't think these arabs operate by saying "I like it - I'm having it at any price" - everyone who deals with them knows they have pots of money but if they are made to pay over the odds then they just walk away - this was evident when the Dubai royals were looking at Liverpool - overall buyout/setup costs (similar to the Everton problem now).
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I don't think Venkys will sell because they are set on this "Rovers in India" theme. I think the only chance we have is if they sell a majority share to the Qataris and keep a minority holding and so the can still have a Rovers academy in Pune, still have the Rovers shops and still get Rovers over for games - this isnt that outlandish as when the Quatris recently bought PSG they only bought 70% of the club - the previous owners retained 30% share in the club.

True. Although I would say that even if Venkys demanded more money our price would still be a world away from what it'd cost to buy Liverpool. But that last scenario you outlined really would be a win win for everyone:

- Venkys tidy a nice profit for a years work

- they leave now before relegating a club, their reputation (largely) unaffected. If they stayed, we would still have Kean and fan unrest will only grow

- We the fans get a very rich owner who by all reports wants to make a tremendously large investment in players

-we would finally be rid of Kean with ambitious owners likely bringing in a proven manager

- Venkys keep a minority share and can keep hold of Blackburn Rovers in the Indian sector to show off to their public once a year.

- The Quataris get a club with a fanbase that is crying out for significant investment, all the infrastructure of a club ready to move up for a (relatively) cheap price

It all makes too much sense. I guess that is why Venkys will not sell?

It will be devestating if we miss out on these owners and they go on to make another club 'the next Man City'. I suppose to be fair, if we look at the other side of this - by not selling it would confirm to us fans that Venkys ARE in it for the long haul and asset stripping is most likely not their goal (if quick profit is their aim they would bite these Quataris hands off)
-D.K.O

Vinjay wrote:
EVIL If there's any justice Kean, Anderson and Venkys will pay for this. Rot in hell all of them.

Is that the gratitude you show to your "liberators"?

venkys could use this situation to there advantage, as some may already bethinking its just a set up for venkys to show rovers fans that they do mean what they say there shoulder to shoulder with BRFC and fans and will not sell, that they are commited to the succsess of BRFC,dont pan me one on the head yet,its just a thought though.

J.C - Rishton wrote:

ChrisSutton wrote:

ossyrover1 wrote:

ossyrover1 wrote:
apparantly venky's have said NO SALE

as i said earlier, the slumdogs dont want to sell. deal off.

There's a lot of hearsay on this potential bid and a LOT of people claiming to be 'in the know'. We need to keep some healthy scepticism in mind.

If a Qatar billionaire was seriously interested in buying a Premier League club, and wanted a club already with the infrastructure available, for sure, Rovers would be a sensible purchase.

Considering they'd have to pump in around £300-400 million to Everton for a new stadium, then raising their bid for Rovers by 20 or so million is absolute peanuts considering.

My point is: if they truly wanted Rovers/a PL club, they'd make a higher bid to Venkys.

People who claim to be in the know, may know some info, but they can never know the whole story. If this Qatar billionaire wanted to force Venkys to sell he could quite easily double his opening bid (again, peanuts compared to the cash outlay required at Everton). If they don't re-bid, then I question how serious THEY are about buying a PL club.

Will be interesting to see how this pans out. If the whole story becomes available that Venkys truly blocked a buy out from a billionaire, will Rovers fans ever forgive Venkys?

We'll be left in the Championship thinking what might have been.
-D.K.O

Chris - Unfortunatley I don't think these arabs operate by saying "I like it - I'm having it at any price" - everyone who deals with them knows they have pots of money but if they are made to pay over the odds then they just walk away - this was evident when the Dubai royals were looking at Liverpool - overall buyout/setup costs (similar to the Everton problem now).
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I don't think Venkys will sell because they are set on this "Rovers in India" theme. I think the only chance we have is if they sell a majority share to the Qataris and keep a minority holding and so the can still have a Rovers academy in Pune, still have the Rovers shops and still get Rovers over for games - this isnt that outlandish as when the Quatris recently bought PSG they only bought 70% of the club - the previous owners retained 30% share in the club.

That was my take on the best way forward as well, Let them buy a controlling share in the club as long term Venky's idea may pay handsomely whereas the Qatariis may want to bale as soon as the world cup is out of the way. They can't exactly expand the fan base in a country that has no football at all. People are just seeing the pound signs and not looking at longevity. At least the Venky's have a long term plan

alfa111 wrote:
venkys could use this situation to there advantage, as some may already bethinking its just a set up for venkys to show rovers fans that they do mean what they say there shoulder to shoulder with BRFC and fans and will not sell, that they are commited to the succsess of BRFC,dont pan me one on the head yet,its just a thought though.

I had that exact thought too.

But then I looked at our current situation and the mess we're in, and I looked at the fact they said Steve Kean is a "brilliant manager" and continue to back him to the hilt, and then I realise... they ain't that smart.
-D.K.O

ChrisSutton wrote:

alfa111 wrote: venkys could use this situation to there advantage, as some may already bethinking its just a set up for venkys to show rovers fans that they do mean what they say there shoulder to shoulder with BRFC and fans and will not sell, that they are commited to the succsess of BRFC,dont pan me one on the head yet,its just a thought though.

I had that exact thought too. But then I looked at our current situation and the mess we're in, and I looked at the fact they said Steve Kean is a "brilliant manager" and continue to back him to the hilt, and then I realise... they ain't that smart. -D.K.O

Yep thats true cant see themletting go.

I don’t trust Venky’s, is this a publicity stunt

I don’t trust Venky’s, is this a publicity stunt

I don’t trust Venky’s, is this a publicity stunt

eddie the eagle wrote:
Mrs Desai woke up this morning and found a horses head in her bed but has told LET that she will not sell.she stated that keeping that nice Mr Kean was more important than profit has she has already proved.

Reported in Mirror that Venkys would sell but Balija Rao is using his veto,apparently he is the football brains in the family.
So it looks like the waste of a horse the head was in the wrong bed.

eddie the eagle wrote:
Mrs Desai woke up this morning and found a horses head in her bed but has told LET that she will not sell.she stated that keeping that nice Mr Kean was more important than profit has she has already proved.

Reported in Mirror that Venkys would sell but Balija Rao is using his veto,apparently he is the football brains in the family.
So it looks like the waste of a horse the head was in the wrong bed.

If Balija Rao is truly the only one of the owners to veto against the sale then it also reflects how the other 2 feel about our club.

It's too cruel hearing this news about a possible takeover. I almost wish I'd never heard about it, will be gutting to see someone like Everton/Wolves flying in the top 6 reaping the benefits of this rich Quatari owner
-D.K.O

Keep Darwen Green wrote:

J.C - Rishton wrote:

ChrisSutton wrote:

ossyrover1 wrote:

ossyrover1 wrote:
apparantly venky's have said NO SALE

as i said earlier, the slumdogs dont want to sell. deal off.

There's a lot of hearsay on this potential bid and a LOT of people claiming to be 'in the know'. We need to keep some healthy scepticism in mind.

If a Qatar billionaire was seriously interested in buying a Premier League club, and wanted a club already with the infrastructure available, for sure, Rovers would be a sensible purchase.

Considering they'd have to pump in around £300-400 million to Everton for a new stadium, then raising their bid for Rovers by 20 or so million is absolute peanuts considering.

My point is: if they truly wanted Rovers/a PL club, they'd make a higher bid to Venkys.

People who claim to be in the know, may know some info, but they can never know the whole story. If this Qatar billionaire wanted to force Venkys to sell he could quite easily double his opening bid (again, peanuts compared to the cash outlay required at Everton). If they don't re-bid, then I question how serious THEY are about buying a PL club.

Will be interesting to see how this pans out. If the whole story becomes available that Venkys truly blocked a buy out from a billionaire, will Rovers fans ever forgive Venkys?

We'll be left in the Championship thinking what might have been.
-D.K.O

Chris - Unfortunatley I don't think these arabs operate by saying "I like it - I'm having it at any price" - everyone who deals with them knows they have pots of money but if they are made to pay over the odds then they just walk away - this was evident when the Dubai royals were looking at Liverpool - overall buyout/setup costs (similar to the Everton problem now).
.
I don't think Venkys will sell because they are set on this "Rovers in India" theme. I think the only chance we have is if they sell a majority share to the Qataris and keep a minority holding and so the can still have a Rovers academy in Pune, still have the Rovers shops and still get Rovers over for games - this isnt that outlandish as when the Quatris recently bought PSG they only bought 70% of the club - the previous owners retained 30% share in the club.

That was my take on the best way forward as well, Let them buy a controlling share in the club as long term Venky's idea may pay handsomely whereas the Qatariis may want to bale as soon as the world cup is out of the way. They can't exactly expand the fan base in a country that has no football at all. People are just seeing the pound signs and not looking at longevity. At least the Venky's have a long term plan

"At least the venky's have a long term plan" To do what? Destroy us completely? KDG: I admire your optimism and positivity, it's a good quality to have. But, FFS you can't honestly believe that Venky's are doing a good job, can you?

I've asked several fans over the last couple of weeks, if they thought we are better off now, than we were 12 months ago. Only one responded: baldie. Bizarrely, he thought we were. One of the reasons he gave was that Venky's offered cheap tickets. As I said, bizarre.

So KDG, I will ask you the same question. Is BRFC now better off under Venky's, than it was under the Walker Trust?

KEEP DARWEN GREEN - back to the other day with the podcast... Still ****???

Duh

Why was this interest not show 12 months ago, they have a vested interest in acquiring football clubs, BRFC was for sale a long time before Venkey's got their hands on us. This lot had there chance then to buy Rovers.
Looks like we are the unluckiest club in the Premiership, as Kean keeps telling us.
Love Rovers
Hate Kean

Why was this interest not show 12 months ago, they have a vested interest in acquiring football clubs, BRFC was for sale a long time before Venkey's got their hands on us. This lot had there chance then to buy Rovers.
Looks like we are the unluckiest club in the Premiership, as Kean keeps telling us.
Love Rovers
Hate Kean

roversok wrote:
Why was this interest not show 12 months ago, they have a vested interest in acquiring football clubs, BRFC was for sale a long time before Venkey's got their hands on us. This lot had there chance then to buy Rovers.
Looks like we are the unluckiest club in the Premiership, as Kean keeps telling us.
Love Rovers
Hate Kean

Maybe because they were trying to get their hands on Man U ...

If this is all true, which from what I am lead to believe it is and Venkys refuse to sell thus the Qatar group go on to buy their second choice Club Everton which in turn see Rovers continue there fall towards the Championship,, then VENKYS should prepair themselves for the biggest backlash ever seen within the clubs entire history, they will be hated like no other and for me it will be just...

If this is all true, which from what I am lead to believe it is and Venkys refuse to sell thus the Qatar group go on to buy their second choice Club Everton which in turn see Rovers continue there fall towards the Championship,, then VENKYS should prepair themselves for the biggest backlash ever seen within the clubs entire history, they will be hated like no other and for me it will be just...

Please God don't let 1 person block £500m player investment into our club - it will be (by some margin) the singular WORST decision ever made on behalf of our great club in its 136 year history!!
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However, Venkys are committed (or so they say) to Rovers longterm - this is demonstrated by the opening of a Rovers Academy in India and numerous shops round that country.
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In order to make the deal happen perhaps Venkys should retain 25-30% and so they can retain their dream of expanding Rovers long-term in India - this could actually work really well as Qatari investment in players would propel us up the league and therefore give us huge exposure in India and therefore help drive our popularity out there.
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The Quataris may well be open to this kind of deal as well as they recently purchased only 70% of PSG, leaving the original owners with a remaining 30% stake in the club.
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Come on Venkys, don't be selfish, this deal is simply (on the face of it) too good for BRFC (as a club) to walk away from.
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VENKYS - MAKE THIS DEAL HAPPEN IN SOME FORM !!

Stone Island wrote:

Keep Darwen Green wrote:

J.C - Rishton wrote:

ChrisSutton wrote:

ossyrover1 wrote:

ossyrover1 wrote:
apparantly venky's have said NO SALE

as i said earlier, the slumdogs dont want to sell. deal off.

There's a lot of hearsay on this potential bid and a LOT of people claiming to be 'in the know'. We need to keep some healthy scepticism in mind.

If a Qatar billionaire was seriously interested in buying a Premier League club, and wanted a club already with the infrastructure available, for sure, Rovers would be a sensible purchase.

Considering they'd have to pump in around £300-400 million to Everton for a new stadium, then raising their bid for Rovers by 20 or so million is absolute peanuts considering.

My point is: if they truly wanted Rovers/a PL club, they'd make a higher bid to Venkys.

People who claim to be in the know, may know some info, but they can never know the whole story. If this Qatar billionaire wanted to force Venkys to sell he could quite easily double his opening bid (again, peanuts compared to the cash outlay required at Everton). If they don't re-bid, then I question how serious THEY are about buying a PL club.

Will be interesting to see how this pans out. If the whole story becomes available that Venkys truly blocked a buy out from a billionaire, will Rovers fans ever forgive Venkys?

We'll be left in the Championship thinking what might have been.
-D.K.O

Chris - Unfortunatley I don't think these arabs operate by saying "I like it - I'm having it at any price" - everyone who deals with them knows they have pots of money but if they are made to pay over the odds then they just walk away - this was evident when the Dubai royals were looking at Liverpool - overall buyout/setup costs (similar to the Everton problem now).
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I don't think Venkys will sell because they are set on this "Rovers in India" theme. I think the only chance we have is if they sell a majority share to the Qataris and keep a minority holding and so the can still have a Rovers academy in Pune, still have the Rovers shops and still get Rovers over for games - this isnt that outlandish as when the Quatris recently bought PSG they only bought 70% of the club - the previous owners retained 30% share in the club.

That was my take on the best way forward as well, Let them buy a controlling share in the club as long term Venky's idea may pay handsomely whereas the Qatariis may want to bale as soon as the world cup is out of the way. They can't exactly expand the fan base in a country that has no football at all. People are just seeing the pound signs and not looking at longevity. At least the Venky's have a long term plan

"At least the venky's have a long term plan" To do what? Destroy us completely? KDG: I admire your optimism and positivity, it's a good quality to have. But, FFS you can't honestly believe that Venky's are doing a good job, can you?

I've asked several fans over the last couple of weeks, if they thought we are better off now, than we were 12 months ago. Only one responded: baldie. Bizarrely, he thought we were. One of the reasons he gave was that Venky's offered cheap tickets. As I said, bizarre.

So KDG, I will ask you the same question. Is BRFC now better off under Venky's, than it was under the Walker Trust?

Just before I start, a very large part of me never thought we would be better off under Venky's than under the Walker's, and some of tried to urge a degree of scepticism amongst other fans, because large multi national companies rarely do things with the intention of losing money. We had infrastructure in place, we had a proportionally successful team to our fanbase/revenue, and they made it quite clear from start they were never going to invest silly money. All that said, I never thought they could have been quite this misguided/arrogant/i
gnorant, whatever we call it, and they have surpassed my worst fears. Again though, when they came in, gave them lots of support, I would even go so far as to say active and vocal support, but in stacking up the evidence against them that support can no longer continue. So no, we are not better off than we were 12 months ago, but that's only because of 2 very big mistakes: not replacing Allardyce with a decent mananger and getting rid of John Williams too quickly.

I would even urge the same caution about this potential takeover with a long term hat on. What happens in 50 years when an alternate fuel is used to run cars? That's obviously not a reason to dismiss this if it's a serious takeover bid, but I suppose just something to be aware of.

On to my actual point. I think the point about Venky's having a long term plan being good thing is a fair one to make, but having a plan and initiating the things to make it reality are two entirely separate things. So far they have done nothing that would indicate to me their plans are realistic, and therefore I think
having a plan or not at this stage is pretty much irrelevant, it's only their actions I'm interested in not their words.

And one final thought. Objectively speaking, I know that's a hard concept for football but we will give it a go anyway, Everton would be a more attractive proposition for any serious potential investor. Their playing staff, as well as on and off field management are significantly stronger than ours at present (who would actually get into Moyes' team, Samba, Hoillet only to de dropped not tracking back and Ollson on the left wing). Like we were, they are a very well run club, but their fanbase is bigger than ours because they in a massive city, and I think if they had investment in the team and the fans onboard they could give 45k people to
home games, in a new stadium which in the grand scheme of things if we are talking about a half billion pound investment wouldn't cost all that much, especially if it was shared with their Red neighbours. We on the other hand have a set of stubborn owners, some good players but a lot either of whom are average or just not good enough, a lot of idiots in important managerial positions and will never get more than 30k people into Ewood regardless of how much success we were having because we don't have a hugely populated catchment area. Of course we are a great club with history, but as an investment I'm not sure we make that much sense, one of the reasons it took so long to find a buyer and we ended up with Venky's I suppose! Here's hoping I'm wrong...

Enjoy navagating the missing and poorly spelt words amonst that little soliloquy, fat hands and iPhones, as well as Monday mornings and an idiot brain are a lame combination

Roses are red, bogeys are green, Venkys are numpties just like Steve Kean!!!!! sell up chicken pluckers and let someone else have a try with us ppppppllllleeeeeeaaa
aassssseeeee.....if you have any right left, please let us go.

a plea to the Qatari's. PLEASE PLEASE do whatever it takes to get rid of the Venkey's for us.
It is probably the only way we are going to rid ourselves of Steve Keen. If you have so much money please make them an offer they CAN'T refuse. Everybody has their price!

gunishment wrote:
And one final thought. Objectively speaking, I know that's a hard concept for football but we will give it a go anyway, Everton would be a more attractive proposition for any serious potential investor. Their playing staff, as well as on and off field management are significantly stronger than ours at present (who would actually get into Moyes' team, Samba, Hoillet only to de dropped not tracking back and Ollson on the left wing). Like we were, they are a very well run club, but their fanbase is bigger than ours because they in a massive city, and I think if they had investment in the team and the fans onboard they could give 45k people to
home games, in a new stadium which in the grand scheme of things if we are talking about a half billion pound investment wouldn't cost all that much, especially if it was shared with their Red neighbours. We on the other hand have a set of stubborn owners, some good players but a lot either of whom are average or just not good enough, a lot of idiots in important managerial positions and will never get more than 30k people into Ewood regardless of how much success we were having because we don't have a hugely populated catchment area. Of course we are a great club with history, but as an investment I'm not sure we make that much sense, one of the reasons it took so long to find a buyer and we ended up with Venky's I suppose! Here's hoping I'm wrong...

Come off it. I accept that Everton have more potential when it comes to fanbase. But in today's modern football the size of your fanbase is irrelevant. It's not going to make any difference to a Qatari tycoon whether you can get 25,000 a week or 45,000 a week on watching. The difference in revenue that 20,000 people a week paying £10-20 a ticket can make might just get you a couple of players on £100,000 a week. The Qatari bloke at Malaga could have bought a club like Valencia or Atletico Madrid who can get gates of 50,000 a week, but he went for a club like Malaga whose ground only holds 28,000.

If this Qatari bloke has allocated £500 million to his latest 'project' of buying a PL club there isn't going to be much of that left once you buy out Kenwright, pay off Everton's massive debts and begin building a much needed new ground, which will take the best part of 10 years to complete. Alternatively they could acquire Rovers and the debt for I would imagine less than £100 million leaving the rest for investment on playing staff with no immediate need to spend on facilities.

Seems to me that to a prospective investor we should be a far more attractive proposition than Everton. Once again the 'small club' syndrome affecting Rovers' supporters. How dare we rival Everton? Some people need to move with the times and realise that we're not in the 80s anymore. The gap between us and clubs like Everton is not that wide. OK we'll never have their fanbase, but our squads are fairly evenly matched, and our infrastructure far outstrips theirs, thanks to Jack Walker.

gunishment wrote:
And one final thought. Objectively speaking, I know that's a hard concept for football but we will give it a go anyway, Everton would be a more attractive proposition for any serious potential investor. Their playing staff, as well as on and off field management are significantly stronger than ours at present (who would actually get into Moyes' team, Samba, Hoillet only to de dropped not tracking back and Ollson on the left wing). Like we were, they are a very well run club, but their fanbase is bigger than ours because they in a massive city, and I think if they had investment in the team and the fans onboard they could give 45k people to
home games, in a new stadium which in the grand scheme of things if we are talking about a half billion pound investment wouldn't cost all that much, especially if it was shared with their Red neighbours. We on the other hand have a set of stubborn owners, some good players but a lot either of whom are average or just not good enough, a lot of idiots in important managerial positions and will never get more than 30k people into Ewood regardless of how much success we were having because we don't have a hugely populated catchment area. Of course we are a great club with history, but as an investment I'm not sure we make that much sense, one of the reasons it took so long to find a buyer and we ended up with Venky's I suppose! Here's hoping I'm wrong...

Come off it. I accept that Everton have more potential when it comes to fanbase. But in today's modern football the size of your fanbase is irrelevant. It's not going to make any difference to a Qatari tycoon whether you can get 25,000 a week or 45,000 a week on watching. The difference in revenue that 20,000 people a week paying £10-20 a ticket can make might just get you a couple of players on £100,000 a week. The Qatari bloke at Malaga could have bought a club like Valencia or Atletico Madrid who can get gates of 50,000 a week, but he went for a club like Malaga whose ground only holds 28,000.

If this Qatari bloke has allocated £500 million to his latest 'project' of buying a PL club there isn't going to be much of that left once you buy out Kenwright, pay off Everton's massive debts and begin building a much needed new ground, which will take the best part of 10 years to complete. Alternatively they could acquire Rovers and the debt for I would imagine less than £100 million leaving the rest for investment on playing staff with no immediate need to spend on facilities.

Seems to me that to a prospective investor we should be a far more attractive proposition than Everton. Once again the 'small club' syndrome affecting Rovers' supporters. How dare we rival Everton? Some people need to move with the times and realise that we're not in the 80s anymore. The gap between us and clubs like Everton is not that wide. OK we'll never have their fanbase, but our squads are fairly evenly matched, and our infrastructure far outstrips theirs, thanks to Jack Walker.

ChrisSutton wrote:

ossyrover1 wrote:

ossyrover1 wrote:
apparantly venky's have said NO SALE

as i said earlier, the slumdogs dont want to sell. deal off.

There's a lot of hearsay on this potential bid and a LOT of people claiming to be 'in the know'. We need to keep some healthy scepticism in mind.

If a Qatar billionaire was seriously interested in buying a Premier League club, and wanted a club already with the infrastructure available, for sure, Rovers would be a sensible purchase.

Considering they'd have to pump in around £300-400 million to Everton for a new stadium, then raising their bid for Rovers by 20 or so million is absolute peanuts considering.

My point is: if they truly wanted Rovers/a PL club, they'd make a higher bid to Venkys.

People who claim to be in the know, may know some info, but they can never know the whole story. If this Qatar billionaire wanted to force Venkys to sell he could quite easily double his opening bid (again, peanuts compared to the cash outlay required at Everton). If they don't re-bid, then I question how serious THEY are about buying a PL club.

Will be interesting to see how this pans out. If the whole story becomes available that Venkys truly blocked a buy out from a billionaire, will Rovers fans ever forgive Venkys?

We'll be left in the Championship thinking what might have been.
-D.K.O

The answer is definitely 'no'. Rovers fans will NEVER forgive Venkys if they block this takeover.
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Venkys have shown from the very start how incompetent and arrogant they are. We hate Venkys and that will never change. Too much damage has been done, and there are no signs whatsoever that they are willing to change their attitude.
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VENKYS OUT!!!
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DONUT KEAN OUT!!!

gunishment wrote:
And one final thought. Objectively speaking, I know that's a hard concept for football but we will give it a go anyway, Everton would be a more attractive proposition for any serious potential investor. Their playing staff, as well as on and off field management are significantly stronger than ours at present (who would actually get into Moyes' team, Samba, Hoillet only to de dropped not tracking back and Ollson on the left wing). Like we were, they are a very well run club, but their fanbase is bigger than ours because they in a massive city, and I think if they had investment in the team and the fans onboard they could give 45k people to
home games, in a new stadium which in the grand scheme of things if we are talking about a half billion pound investment wouldn't cost all that much, especially if it was shared with their Red neighbours. We on the other hand have a set of stubborn owners, some good players but a lot either of whom are average or just not good enough, a lot of idiots in important managerial positions and will never get more than 30k people into Ewood regardless of how much success we were having because we don't have a hugely populated catchment area. Of course we are a great club with history, but as an investment I'm not sure we make that much sense, one of the reasons it took so long to find a buyer and we ended up with Venky's I suppose! Here's hoping I'm wrong...

Hi - I don't think you are right on the Everton V Rovers investment - they (the arabs simply don't seem to think like that).
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They are not looking at our (or Evertons current squad) they couldnt care less about either - they intend to buy players far far better than we or Everton currently have.
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Also if you look at the football clubs the arabs have bought they seem to want low cost, low dept, with good infrasctucture already in place (ground, training facility etc). They seem to want to just pour money into players not grounds - this has been highlighted by the fact that this was a major stumbling block with the purchase of Liverpool a few years ago and is a problem now with Everton.
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They also don't worry about buying clubs with huge fan base as the purchase of Malaga recently shows - a club with no huge fan base but it has a decent enough ground and very little historical sucess in Spanish football
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Lastly THEY ARE NOT LOOKING FOR A RETURN ON THEIR INVESTMENT - they are rich beyond what people like us (or Venkys even) can hardly comprehend - to illustrate this point Man City have just anounced losses of £150m for the last year (and this does not include their summer purchases) - do you think their owners are worried by this loss - no, they couldnt care less.

J.C - Rishton wrote:

Suffolk n Watt wrote:

J.C - Rishton wrote:

Suffolk n Watt wrote:
There are a few big problems that some people are not taking into account.
If they were taken over by the oil barons on the basis that they want to transform the club into a Champions League team, they can't splash out these massive amounts of money on players and wages as FIFA's new financial play laws started this season.
They would be barred from entering the Champions League and Europa Cup.
This is why Venkys have signed young inexperienced players on low wages just to stand a slight chance of getting into Europe.
Rovers have a relatively new ground and the capacity is about right as new fans are hard to find whilst money is tight.
Prices will have to go up in the near future just to get the wages to turnover ratio down,and then most fans will not pay the extra ticket price.
Like it or not Rovers will become a selling club with no prospects in the next 20 years of ever challenging for honours unless 200,000 new homes are built in the area and thats just not going to happen.
The only thing they can do is try and keep the club within the top ten and thats about the best any rovers fan can hope for.
As much as it pains me i'm a lifelong Rovers fan, so effectively we are stuck with Venkys but we don't have to be stuck with Kean.

I am sorry but are you saying we should stick with Venkys over the Qatar Royal family cos if they pumped millions of £s into us and we qualified from the champions league then we would be barred from entering the competition ?.
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That is completely illogical - I would rather finish 4th in the EPL and NOT allowed to play in Europe than finish 16th in the EPL and not qualify for Europe anyway.
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Also Sir Alex said recently that he didnt believe that these "financial restrictions or club barings" from the Champions league would happen -and I agree with him.
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At the moment - City and Chelsea, prob Man U, AC Milan and Barcelona would all not qualify - can you honestly see these clubs being bared from the competition ?? - it will never happen because the TV companies simply would not allow it

This is why Man City are trying to wipe out their overspending with a 10year £400 million pound sponsorship,which has been pointed out that it's an inflated deal just to overcome their spending woes.
No oil baron would want to put in massive amounts of money unless they got a champions league spot as where would they make any money from.
Utd have been under the wages to turnover ratio for years and would qualify,Chelsea spent a massive amount the year before and will not spend anywhere near what they have done in the last few years anymore.
Barcelona are just on the cusp of qualifying as Cesc Fabregas had to take a pay cut just to join them.
Its a catch 22 situation that will only make the big clubs even bigger.
It will be 3 years before the barring starts so many will be trying to get their house in order.

I understand where you are coming from but like Sir Alex - I don't agree with you, when push comes to shove no club will be excluded, a deal will be done with FIFA and these new measures will be postponed or clubs will simply get round it by the owners putting in the investment under the guise of "sponsership" - the sponsers and TV companies want the best, not necessarily the best run and, as the saying goes "he who pays the piper, calles the tune".
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Also what you have said dosent hold water either when you look at other small clubs round Europe that are getting hugh outside investment into.
Anzhi - Russian club that employs the "highest paid player in world football" and also Malaga (a club of similar size to Rovers) who just happen to have been bought by one of the Qatar princes - your FIFA rules dosent seem to be bothering these new owners, they are both planning to plough millions into their clubs and have said this is the start of their player investment.
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Also, who cares if we got barred from playing in European comps anyway - we arn't at the moment nor will we if this downward spiral carries on. I would rather have huge investment in the club and then worry about "Champions league exclusion" if that problem ever arose.
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I don't see many Man City fans worrying about it and I don't see any planned slow down in player investment either - like city, clubs will just get round it by larger sponsership deals from their own owners

I accept your view that they may not be barred,but with Platini's new laws coming into effect you have to look at it seriously.
Financial penaltys' would be pointless as the billionaires can just write them off,so barring is a real possibilty.
The reason why City have splashed out is because the owners have bought most of the surrounding area of Eastlands which are being rented out to Blue Chip Companies and also they are building a few hotels which will eventually balance out in years to come.
Though again why would they invest in Rovers as it will be impossible to make any return on the investment due to the fact that as most Rovers fans have said they will not go if ticket prices are inflated.
I said before though about the sponsorship that it is an inflated deal which is part of an ongoing Fifa investigation,due to Chelsea,Utd and Liverpool all complaining about it. So somewhere along the line those clubs are thinking about these financial rules.
Still I do like having a bit of a chuckle at Anzi due to the fact that its a mad russian billionaire who wants to have a bit of fun with a club. They have got less fans than Rovers and are more at home rioting outside the stadium.
Bring on the Mad Billionaires and not the sensible ones.

Venkys are so full of ****!!! I just read the statement they made earlier today. One of the Rao brothers said: ''The passion is there and we don't want to let the fans down.'' - Well, the fans have already been let down majorly, how do you explain that chicken plucker??? He continued: ''We are very much concerned. We want to be a little higher and no lower.'' - Wasn't it champions league or something like that chicken plucker?? He also said: "We've had our ups and downs. It's very nice to have such a prestigious football club.'' - What are the 'ups' you are talking about???
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We are owned by a bunch of clowns, and it's obvious that they are not at all up to the task of being owners of our clubs.
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VENKYS OUT!!! VENKYS OUT!!! DONUT KEAN OUT!!!
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Keep sending them emails and let them know what we think of them.

As i said yesterday it seemed to be more helpfull to venkys looking at there statments today, talk of a take over,they could show fans they are commited to the future of BRFC by refusing to sell, stating they are shoulder to shoulder with the fans and there is a future with them at the helm this is exactlywhat i expected,feeling this is more of a set up now than ever,these people all walk and talk in the same circle of freinds and help each other out its part of there order. Yet to here any stament from the so called oil giants on an offer or offical inerest in rovers other than our owners venkys with as i expected there statement of there future at rovers, stich up nearly complete.

Another load of B***ocks to get people to buy newspapers, The Telegraph wants Sh**ing for trying to sell us crap like that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yep L/T are doing pretty well out of these rumours this last tweleve mnth so are venkys

Keep Darwen Green wrote:

RoversLoyal wrote:

J.C - Rishton wrote:

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Oh and for what its worth my prediction is Venky's won't sell, but then again, I'm always wrong aren't I boys. In my eyes they took on a five year plan and its just twelve months in so I reckon, unless they are offered seriously stupid money, they will still be our owners in twelve months.

You know I don't like to agree with you but in this case I do - I think Venkies will not sell unless they were to receive a huge profit on their investment - otherwise they do have their own (secretive) plan and they'll stick with it.
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But this will just show how little they actually care about the club - preventing someone who would be hugely beneficial and could transform us back to previous glories, just for their own petty, selfish motives.
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If they turn down this sale then don't seriously invest in the club themselves then ALL Rovers fans must never forget and never forgive them.

The Darwen Hag would love this story to be false, you can just sense it in the tone of her post - another arrogant contribution from a Kean/Venky lickspittle.

Is that your take on the subject? I would have preferred an opinion like stone islands or adcr, at least they have one, instead of your usual stalking, do you have an opinion on anything but what I post? Why do you wait until I post and then jump on it like some deranged nutter from broadmoore? Are you Ian Huntley with computer time? probably frothing at the mouth yanking the end off it waiting for the taser squad to arrive.
So, whats your opinion? Nightstalker

...another vulgar rant.

J.C - Rishton wrote:

gunishment wrote:
And one final thought. Objectively speaking, I know that's a hard concept for football but we will give it a go anyway, Everton would be a more attractive proposition for any serious potential investor. Their playing staff, as well as on and off field management are significantly stronger than ours at present (who would actually get into Moyes' team, Samba, Hoillet only to de dropped not tracking back and Ollson on the left wing). Like we were, they are a very well run club, but their fanbase is bigger than ours because they in a massive city, and I think if they had investment in the team and the fans onboard they could give 45k people to
home games, in a new stadium which in the grand scheme of things if we are talking about a half billion pound investment wouldn't cost all that much, especially if it was shared with their Red neighbours. We on the other hand have a set of stubborn owners, some good players but a lot either of whom are average or just not good enough, a lot of idiots in important managerial positions and will never get more than 30k people into Ewood regardless of how much success we were having because we don't have a hugely populated catchment area. Of course we are a great club with history, but as an investment I'm not sure we make that much sense, one of the reasons it took so long to find a buyer and we ended up with Venky's I suppose! Here's hoping I'm wrong...

Hi - I don't think you are right on the Everton V Rovers investment - they (the arabs simply don't seem to think like that).
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They are not looking at our (or Evertons current squad) they couldnt care less about either - they intend to buy players far far better than we or Everton currently have.
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Also if you look at the football clubs the arabs have bought they seem to want low cost, low dept, with good infrasctucture already in place (ground, training facility etc). They seem to want to just pour money into players not grounds - this has been highlighted by the fact that this was a major stumbling block with the purchase of Liverpool a few years ago and is a problem now with Everton.
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They also don't worry about buying clubs with huge fan base as the purchase of Malaga recently shows - a club with no huge fan base but it has a decent enough ground and very little historical sucess in Spanish football
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Lastly THEY ARE NOT LOOKING FOR A RETURN ON THEIR INVESTMENT - they are rich beyond what people like us (or Venkys even) can hardly comprehend - to illustrate this point Man City have just anounced losses of £150m for the last year (and this does not include their summer purchases) - do you think their owners are worried by this loss - no, they couldnt care less.

Hi J.C, and Jack01. I totally accept both of both of your points, all I would say is if money truly is no object, why not but Man Utd?
Jack I agree I infrastructure was once far superior to Evertons, that was before Venky's restructured. Now, apart from our youth set up, I fail to see how we rival many premier league clubs apart from in our history which is both recently and historically greater than many other clubs outside the top 4.

All i see here is the same story from last year, it's all promises, venkys promised huge changes including new players, and now, one year later, they're most wanted in blackburn, people want them out, and eventually, they'll take the offer, an unbelievable offer, something like £30-£40m.

The Qataris are oil giants and we've all seen what greatness the arabs have done to such clubs as Emirates' Arsenal, Etihads' Manchester City and FC Barcelonas Qatar Foundation.

This is QP (Qatar Petroleum) a huge oil company, with a S**tload of money to blow, this could go to either new signings or stadium improvement, either way i'm very exicted about this.

VENKYS OPEN YOUR EYES AND TAKE THE DEAL, NO ONE WANTS YOU ANYMORE!!

KEAN - OUT
VENKYS - OUT
QP - IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Yes please, get these idiots (Venky's) out.

gunishment wrote:

J.C - Rishton wrote:

gunishment wrote:
And one final thought. Objectively speaking, I know that's a hard concept for football but we will give it a go anyway, Everton would be a more attractive proposition for any serious potential investor. Their playing staff, as well as on and off field management are significantly stronger than ours at present (who would actually get into Moyes' team, Samba, Hoillet only to de dropped not tracking back and Ollson on the left wing). Like we were, they are a very well run club, but their fanbase is bigger than ours because they in a massive city, and I think if they had investment in the team and the fans onboard they could give 45k people to
home games, in a new stadium which in the grand scheme of things if we are talking about a half billion pound investment wouldn't cost all that much, especially if it was shared with their Red neighbours. We on the other hand have a set of stubborn owners, some good players but a lot either of whom are average or just not good enough, a lot of idiots in important managerial positions and will never get more than 30k people into Ewood regardless of how much success we were having because we don't have a hugely populated catchment area. Of course we are a great club with history, but as an investment I'm not sure we make that much sense, one of the reasons it took so long to find a buyer and we ended up with Venky's I suppose! Here's hoping I'm wrong...

Hi - I don't think you are right on the Everton V Rovers investment - they (the arabs simply don't seem to think like that).
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They are not looking at our (or Evertons current squad) they couldnt care less about either - they intend to buy players far far better than we or Everton currently have.
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Also if you look at the football clubs the arabs have bought they seem to want low cost, low dept, with good infrasctucture already in place (ground, training facility etc). They seem to want to just pour money into players not grounds - this has been highlighted by the fact that this was a major stumbling block with the purchase of Liverpool a few years ago and is a problem now with Everton.
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They also don't worry about buying clubs with huge fan base as the purchase of Malaga recently shows - a club with no huge fan base but it has a decent enough ground and very little historical sucess in Spanish football
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Lastly THEY ARE NOT LOOKING FOR A RETURN ON THEIR INVESTMENT - they are rich beyond what people like us (or Venkys even) can hardly comprehend - to illustrate this point Man City have just anounced losses of £150m for the last year (and this does not include their summer purchases) - do you think their owners are worried by this loss - no, they couldnt care less.

Hi J.C, and Jack01. I totally accept both of both of your points, all I would say is if money truly is no object, why not but Man Utd?
Jack I agree I infrastructure was once far superior to Evertons, that was before Venky's restructured. Now, apart from our youth set up, I fail to see how we rival many premier league clubs apart from in our history which is both recently and historically greater than many other clubs outside the top 4.

Why not buy Man U ? Because they don't want to sell. Just like BRFC.