Blackburn Rovers boss scouring Europe for striker and midfielder (From Lancashire Telegraph)

With a bit of luck Allardyce will cash in on both Pederson and Diouf in January.The latter inparticularly, isn't good enough to be the highest earner on Rovers books.Apparently earning £2M a season. We need lads in our club who are prepared to give a lot more speed and drive than these two have given this season.Diouf spends more time watching Bolton than Blackburn when he isn't selected, what sort of loyalty is that?.How about this one, offer him back to Megson in exchange for Cahill.

I don't get this. Surely with the promised change of system and the loss of Di Santo Benni can play a lot more?
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We would not get a great fee (2 or £3m) for a 32 year old so much better to have proven quality and get the best out of him for the next 2/3 more years? If £6m buys Kalinic what is £2m going to buy unless some funds are being released by the Owners?
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If we are after a midfielder as well perhaps there are some funds but that was not stated by the club in August.
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Celtic Rover wrote:
With a bit of luck Allardyce will cash in on both Pederson and Diouf in January.The latter inparticularly, isn't good enough to be the highest earner on Rovers books.Apparently earning £2M a season. We need lads in our club who are prepared to give a lot more speed and drive than these two have given this season.Diouf spends more time watching Bolton than Blackburn when he isn't selected, what sort of loyalty is that?.How about this one, offer him back to Megson in exchange for Cahill.

I'm gutted that Dioufs on 2m a year. What a waste!!

As for getting rid... I think there's more chance of the scruff getting into Europe than Bewtun swapping an 'up and coming' player like Cahill for
the "persistent controversy" that is Diouf.
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Does anyone know whats happening with Van Heerden? I don't think he's ever been in a match day squad nevermind played for us.
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I agree or even a swap for Matt Taylor .I would like to see a bit more of McCarthy however I still remember the lazy player,the last couple of seasons ago who scored most of his goals from penalties. maybe 2 million for a 32 year old, who could be past it, may not be a bad bit of buisness for rovers,
we do need a midfielder who can pass the ball and a striker who can finish and I think it will be only a matter of time until we loose Samba to a big club

Anybody see Andrew Cole on QOS last night?
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When asked to name four premiership teams beginning with "B", he could only come up with Bolton.
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Given that through his career he played for:
Blackburn
Birmingham
Burnley
....you may have thought he would have been able to come up with the other three. Priceless.

As an observation, surely BFS''s transfer policy must come under question? He spent £6 million on Kalanic, tells the fans he needs to come up to Premiership fitness levels until he can start? If he needs another striker in January, doesn't this imply that Kalanic still won't be ready? After nearly half the season? Rovers aren't in a position to be able to afford errors of judgement. BFS seems to be shipping out the players who have proven abilities, and buying in expensive under performers. Wasn't it Derbyshire who was on the periphery of the national squad at one stage, gone to Greece? McCarthy can't get a start? It seems there are some questions to be asked.

Morst the 88th min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:
I don't get this. Surely with the promised change of system and the loss of Di Santo Benni can play a lot more?
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We would not get a great fee (2 or £3m) for a 32 year old so much better to have proven quality and get the best out of him for the next 2/3 more years? If £6m buys Kalinic what is £2m going to buy unless some funds are being released by the Owners?
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If we are after a midfielder as well perhaps there are some funds but that was not stated by the club in August.
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Morst, as Sam said he doesn't deem Benni fit enough. Now he said this at the start of the season and if he's trotting the same story in november it must mean 1 of 2 things. Either Benni isn't taking any notice OR Sam is just making excuses to get rid of him. Either way I'll be sorry to see him and his personality go as I suspect he will in Summer if not in Jan.

As for Mort it seems he needs a fresh challenge perhaps Stoke or somewhere. Then he and Delap will be able to cause endless problems for Premier defences!

hasslem hasslem wrote:
Anybody see Andrew Cole on QOS last night?
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When asked to name four premiership teams beginning with "B", he could only come up with Bolton.
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Given that through his career he played for:
Blackburn
Birmingham
Burnley
....you may have thought he would have been able to come up with the other three. Priceless.

haha i've got to see that one

bfs must insist if pederson is sold they take diouf 4 free a sort of buy 1 get 1 free they both poor but diouf strolls round the pitch moaning at other players but he dont see how crap he is himself very poof for team spirit

masher49 wrote:
As an observation, surely BFS''s transfer policy must come under question? He spent £6 million on Kalanic, tells the fans he needs to come up to Premiership fitness levels until he can start? If he needs another striker in January, doesn't this imply that Kalanic still won't be ready? After nearly half the season? Rovers aren't in a position to be able to afford errors of judgement. BFS seems to be shipping out the players who have proven abilities, and buying in expensive under performers. Wasn't it Derbyshire who was on the periphery of the national squad at one stage, gone to Greece? McCarthy can't get a start? It seems there are some questions to be asked.

Hi Masher - Matty had loads of chances to impress and stake a claim for a starting place but he failed to do so. It speaks volumes that he opted for a rubbish league to ply his trade.

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Rovers are in the nice position of being able to give Kalinc the time it takes to gear up for the Prem. Think how fresh he will be for the sendond half of the season when players at clubs with smaller clubs will be on their last legs.

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Benni is having another of his big sulks and I guess can't or won't get himself as fit as Sam demands. If Sam thinks he should go - so be it. It is a shame because he is a great finisher when he chooses to play.

kevin e wrote:

masher49 wrote:
As an observation, surely BFS''s transfer policy must come under question? He spent £6 million on Kalanic, tells the fans he needs to come up to Premiership fitness levels until he can start? If he needs another striker in January, doesn't this imply that Kalanic still won't be ready? After nearly half the season? Rovers aren't in a position to be able to afford errors of judgement. BFS seems to be shipping out the players who have proven abilities, and buying in expensive under performers. Wasn't it Derbyshire who was on the periphery of the national squad at one stage, gone to Greece? McCarthy can't get a start? It seems there are some questions to be asked.

Hi Masher - Matty had loads of chances to impress and stake a claim for a starting place but he failed to do so. It speaks volumes that he opted for a rubbish league to ply his trade.

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Rovers are in the nice position of being able to give Kalinc the time it takes to gear up for the Prem. Think how fresh he will be for the sendond half of the season when players at clubs with smaller clubs will be on their last legs.

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Benni is having another of his big sulks and I guess can't or won't get himself as fit as Sam demands. If Sam thinks he should go - so be it. It is a shame because he is a great finisher when he chooses to play.

Sorry - that should read...players at clubs with smaller SQUADS...

hasslem hasslem wrote:
Anybody see Andrew Cole on QOS last night?
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When asked to name four premiership teams beginning with "B", he could only come up with Bolton.
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Given that through his career he played for:
Blackburn
Birmingham
Burnley
....you may have thought he would have been able to come up with the other three. Priceless.

Hi HH - yes, I saw it. I could not believe he struggled so much with that one!

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He seems like quite an intelligent chap normally.

On a totally non-related topic - hearty congratulations to Mozambique on qualifying for the first time ever for the African Cup of Nations. They beat Tunisia 1-0 in Maputo.

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Just thought I would share that with you!

You Benni fans are almost as deluded as the present Benni. I have posted on this before. The "pre-Chelsea" Benni has gone. The Benni we have now is Benni "2". He may score the odd goal (mainly penalties), but he is uncommitted, unfit, & overpaid. Get rid Sam, while you can. He is fast becoming an embarrassment to our club with his silly verbal tirades.

I would have to agree with Come the Revolution. For whatever reason, Benni ain't the goal scorer he used to be. Last season he played in 28 premiership matches scoring 6 in open play plus 4 penalties. Hardly shattering.

Come the Revolution wrote:
You Benni fans are almost as deluded as the present Benni. I have posted on this before. The "pre-Chelsea" Benni has gone. The Benni we have now is Benni "2". He may score the odd goal (mainly penalties), but he is uncommitted, unfit, & overpaid. Get rid Sam, while you can. He is fast becoming an embarrassment to our club with his silly verbal tirades.

Why do people think it is bad that a number of Benni's goals were penalties? Are goals not goals? And if he scored so many penalties (and I think some people exaggerate it), then perhaps it signifies that we get into more dangerous positions, where the opposition need to foul us, when he is playing?

We will not receive anything substantial for Benni (given his age) or Pedersen (given his contract status), so it is unlikely we will be able to get anyone of sufficient class to replace them.

Allardyce's forays into the transfer market so far have not exactly filled me with hope that he will pull something out of the bag in January - Nzonzi, Givet and di Santo have featured regularly and done ok. However, Diouf has been poor (and should be moved on, in my opinion), and Kalinic, van Heerden, Salgado have hardly played. They may prove in time to be decent signings, but we don't have the time (or, more importantly, the money) to afford to buy players to sit them on the bench while the acclimatise for half a season. If they are not fit yet, and others like McCarthy and Reid are not fit either, then doesn't that suggest issues with the training program Allardyce has?

Brossac rover, need to get a message to you re: Happy days with the blue and whites.....leave a post!

hasslem hasslem wrote:
Anybody see Andrew Cole on QOS last night? . When asked to name four premiership teams beginning with "B", he could only come up with Bolton. . Given that through his career he played for: Blackburn Birmingham Burnley ....you may have thought he would have been able to come up with the other three. Priceless.

when did he play for birmingham?

spyderleg wrote:
Brossac rover, need to get a message to you re: Happy days with the blue and whites.....leave a post!

Should have read "French Rover", mon ami.

paolo - my mate told me he played for brum for a short while after fulham, just checked on wikipedia and that is corect.

Celtic Rover wrote:
With a bit of luck Allardyce will cash in on both Pederson and Diouf in January.The latter inparticularly, isn't good enough to be the highest earner on Rovers books.Apparently earning £2M a season. We need lads in our club who are prepared to give a lot more speed and drive than these two have given this season.Diouf spends more time watching Bolton than Blackburn when he isn't selected, what sort of loyalty is that?.How about this one, offer him back to Megson in exchange for Cahill.

Dream on deluded Dingle.
8 days and counting till Dingles downfall, Allardyces armagedon. Get the mini-bus ready boys and try and make some noise. rovers,rovers ra ra ra.lol.

ChorleyRover wrote:
I would have to agree with Come the Revolution. For whatever reason, Benni ain't the goal scorer he used to be. Last season he played in 28 premiership matches scoring 6 in open play plus 4 penalties. Hardly shattering.

50 goals in 96 starts according to LET.
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And he looked very fit on the Sky close up last week as he was coming on at half time and I did not see him tire in anyway towards the end indeed he set up Roberts for the late third goal.
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Tell you what you Benni haters - find me someone to match that stat above (50 in 96) for £2m to £3m.
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Otherwise its mad to lose the two best strikers at the club in January - one we can't help but the other we can.
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And not accommodating Benni says more about our potential style of play than anything and that is very worrying.
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At present the pendulum is 50% Rovers football and 50% Bolton football but it has been slowly edging up the A666 towards devils football since BS arrived and Benni's departure would send the pendulum further in that direction.
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Rovers own site has just announced the Liverpool ticket news with a kick off of 5.00pm.
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Is this a typo or did I miss something?
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after fulham,

not many games - but he was there

Morst the 88th min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:

ChorleyRover wrote:
I would have to agree with Come the Revolution. For whatever reason, Benni ain't the goal scorer he used to be. Last season he played in 28 premiership matches scoring 6 in open play plus 4 penalties. Hardly shattering.

50 goals in 96 starts according to LET.
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And he looked very fit on the Sky close up last week as he was coming on at half time and I did not see him tire in anyway towards the end indeed he set up Roberts for the late third goal.
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Tell you what you Benni haters - find me someone to match that stat above (50 in 96) for £2m to £3m.
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Otherwise its mad to lose the two best strikers at the club in January - one we can't help but the other we can.
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And not accommodating Benni says more about our potential style of play than anything and that is very worrying.
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At present the pendulum is 50% Rovers football and 50% Bolton football but it has been slowly edging up the A666 towards devils football since BS arrived and Benni's departure would send the pendulum further in that direction.
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31st.......

Toytally agree with your benni comments, but I know im gonna get some stick for this, is di santo really our second best striker?
Many rovers fans see him as a hero and a top talent due to his performance against a pretty poor Burnley side.
However that game aside, to me he has looked out of his depth so far. Don't think he touched the ball against united or Arsenal, and he looked lost last week against pompy.
I hope im wrong, but I can see why chelsea saw him as being surplus to requirements. Give me Roberts any day.
Just hope di santo won't be "pedersen 2". you get a goal against big rival (ie united or burnley), and you get a job for life

4 people to ship out in Jan, roberts, andrews diouf and allardyce

Make that 5-Pedersen
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wwal at let

kevin e wrote:

masher49 wrote: As an observation, surely BFS''s transfer policy must come under question? He spent £6 million on Kalanic, tells the fans he needs to come up to Premiership fitness levels until he can start? If he needs another striker in January, doesn't this imply that Kalanic still won't be ready? After nearly half the season? Rovers aren't in a position to be able to afford errors of judgement. BFS seems to be shipping out the players who have proven abilities, and buying in expensive under performers. Wasn't it Derbyshire who was on the periphery of the national squad at one stage, gone to Greece? McCarthy can't get a start? It seems there are some questions to be asked.

Hi Masher - Matty had loads of chances to impress and stake a claim for a starting place but he failed to do so. It speaks volumes that he opted for a rubbish league to ply his trade. . Rovers are in the nice position of being able to give Kalinc the time it takes to gear up for the Prem. Think how fresh he will be for the sendond half of the season when players at clubs with smaller clubs will be on their last legs. . Benni is having another of his big sulks and I guess can't or won't get himself as fit as Sam demands. If Sam thinks he should go - so be it. It is a shame because he is a great finisher when he chooses to play.

Still not sure on this, another poster has also questioned BFS's traing style if after so long you still have so many unfit players. I know that a couple of the players reputed to be "underperforming came in on free transfers, but if El Diouf cost £2 million, and is reportedly on £2 million per season, Kalinic cost £6 mill, so what's he going to be earning? - so at least £10 million costs on players that aren't delivering the good.
It's difficult, because I'm NOT a fan of BFS - OK, he did some thing at Bolton, wasn't all that good at Newcastle, and hasn't really set the world on fire at Blackburn either. Last season he WAS the best man for the job that needed doing in keeping Rovers in the Prem, but as a long term manager I have my doubts. BFS is his own biggest fan. Several years ago (whilst still at Bolton, I think) he was touting himself as the next possible national manager. I cringe to think what he'd do as England manager. The other comment I'll make, is that most managers like to think when they leave a club, they leave it in better shape than when they took over. I really don't think you can say that about any club BFS has left. He may have been the man that got you out of trouble last season, but in the long run, he could turn into a very costly mistake.

Morst the 88th min Heartbreaker of Dingles! wrote:

ChorleyRover wrote: I would have to agree with Come the Revolution. For whatever reason, Benni ain't the goal scorer he used to be. Last season he played in 28 premiership matches scoring 6 in open play plus 4 penalties. Hardly shattering.

50 goals in 96 starts according to LET. . And he looked very fit on the Sky close up last week as he was coming on at half time and I did not see him tire in anyway towards the end indeed he set up Roberts for the late third goal. . Tell you what you Benni haters - find me someone to match that stat above (50 in 96) for £2m to £3m. . Otherwise its mad to lose the two best strikers at the club in January - one we can't help but the other we can. . And not accommodating Benni says more about our potential style of play than anything and that is very worrying. . At present the pendulum is 50% Rovers football and 50% Bolton football but it has been slowly edging up the A666 towards devils football since BS arrived and Benni's departure would send the pendulum further in that direction. . 31st.......

50% Bolton football as was under BFS play a different way under Megson, as you will see no doubt, live, on tele next Sunday.

According to one of the Sunday papers, Allardyce is hoping to move both Pederson and McCarthy out.To free up capital to make a 7M bid for Franco Di Santos and Congo Forward Dieumerci Mbokani from Standard Liege.

Why have you taken off my last post LET?.Suspect you don't want me to spoil tomorrows back page "exclusive" before you get it into print.Pederson and McCarthy out.Di Santos and Mbokani in.Come on, get upto speed!

kevin e wrote:

hasslem hasslem wrote: Anybody see Andrew Cole on QOS last night? . When asked to name four premiership teams beginning with "B", he could only come up with Bolton. . Given that through his career he played for: Blackburn Birmingham Burnley ....you may have thought he would have been able to come up with the other three. Priceless.

Hi HH - yes, I saw it. I could not believe he struggled so much with that one! . He seems like quite an intelligent chap normally.

Quite an intelligent chap! I detect a touch of sarcasm there. I was amazed he got one!! He's about as intelligent as David Beckham.

masher49 wrote:

kevin e wrote:

masher49 wrote: As an observation, surely BFS''s transfer policy must come under question? He spent £6 million on Kalanic, tells the fans he needs to come up to Premiership fitness levels until he can start? If he needs another striker in January, doesn't this imply that Kalanic still won't be ready? After nearly half the season? Rovers aren't in a position to be able to afford errors of judgement. BFS seems to be shipping out the players who have proven abilities, and buying in expensive under performers. Wasn't it Derbyshire who was on the periphery of the national squad at one stage, gone to Greece? McCarthy can't get a start? It seems there are some questions to be asked.

Hi Masher - Matty had loads of chances to impress and stake a claim for a starting place but he failed to do so. It speaks volumes that he opted for a rubbish league to ply his trade. . Rovers are in the nice position of being able to give Kalinc the time it takes to gear up for the Prem. Think how fresh he will be for the sendond half of the season when players at clubs with smaller clubs will be on their last legs. . Benni is having another of his big sulks and I guess can't or won't get himself as fit as Sam demands. If Sam thinks he should go - so be it. It is a shame because he is a great finisher when he chooses to play.

Still not sure on this, another poster has also questioned BFS's traing style if after so long you still have so many unfit players. I know that a couple of the players reputed to be "underperforming came in on free transfers, but if El Diouf cost £2 million, and is reportedly on £2 million per season, Kalinic cost £6 mill, so what's he going to be earning? - so at least £10 million costs on players that aren't delivering the good.
It's difficult, because I'm NOT a fan of BFS - OK, he did some thing at Bolton, wasn't all that good at Newcastle, and hasn't really set the world on fire at Blackburn either. Last season he WAS the best man for the job that needed doing in keeping Rovers in the Prem, but as a long term manager I have my doubts. BFS is his own biggest fan. Several years ago (whilst still at Bolton, I think) he was touting himself as the next possible national manager. I cringe to think what he'd do as England manager. The other comment I'll make, is that most managers like to think when they leave a club, they leave it in better shape than when they took over. I really don't think you can say that about any club BFS has left. He may have been the man that got you out of trouble last season, but in the long run, he could turn into a very costly mistake.

It's very early days yet and far too soon to make judgements on Sam's tenure.

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He was brilliant last season.

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It's a different challenge this season and the wholse of one month was written off as a result of the difficulty of playing three of four games against the top three away from home.

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The end of the season will be the time to judge Sam. I think all Rovers fans believe that we have no relegation fears so can afford to give it the time it takes to judge the players and Sam's input.

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It seems that we might have some funds available to add to the squad and there are some players who need to be moved out as they are not on board.

Kevin e, I'm with you on the above. Its early into Sams regime to be condemning him, plus his hands have been tied, both in terms of the players that wanted to leave, and the budget for incoming players.We're quick to belittle his acheivements at Bolton, but in the last two years he had there, Bolton's points tally would have had them at 4th place in the league...I'd settle for that (plus thats why he was a genuine candidate for the england role...behind super Steve McClaren)

Until I see who he wants I be more concerned now that he is only going to look for players who can play in this 451/4411 formation. I hope that isnt the case and he isnt looking to make us one dimensional, but the way he talks to me it seems thats the way he wants us to play. I hope not cause I am sued to blackburn always looking play 442 get outwide, but only time will tell.

masher49 - are you mad?

'The other comment I'll make, is that most managers like to think when they leave a club, they leave it in better shape than when they took over. I really don't think you can say that about any club BFS has left.'

Took over Blackpool when they had avoided relegation from division three on the last day of the season. When he left, they had finished third.

See an improvement?

He got Notts County promoted back to Division Two in stunning fashion - actually gaining promotion in March.

Allarcyde then took over Bolton who were a midtable DIVISION ONE side back when Division One were the second tier. When he left they were top six in the PREMIERSHIP.

My word, man, what are you on?

I strongly disagree with your thoughts on his training methods and think you're talking circumstantial nonsense - however, even that is not as ridiculous as suggesting Sam Allardyce has never left his teams better off than they started.

I feel a few Burnley fans are posting messages on here to cause disharmony within the camp. If "genuine" Rovers fans are having a pop at Sam then I would ask that they cast their minds back a year and show some respect for someone who retained our Premiership status and cast aside the disasterous tenure of Mr Ince and co. For the record I also believe Diouf is one of the players who has shown an attitude to genuinely fight for the team - as has Andrews.

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