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Tom Cairney scores Rovers' equaliser against Cardiff

Tom Cairney scores Rovers' equaliser against Cardiff

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A WONDERFUL goal from reigning player of the year Tom Cairney ensured Rovers kick started the Championship campaign with a point against the title favourites at Ewood Park.

Cardiff, relegated from the Premier League last season but tipped to go straight back up, broke the deadlock in the 18th minute through the fired-up Kenwyne Jones.

But Cairney, thanks to some tireless closing down from Jordan Rhodes, restored parity in the 40th minute when he beat David Marshall from 25 yards.

Rovers, who are now unbeaten in their last 13 competitive matches, had all of the ball in the second half, like they had for much of the first.

But they were unable to break down a well-drilled Bluebirds side who were happy to head back to the Welsh capital with a point in their back pockets.

The result means Rovers, who were watched from the stands by owners Venky's, have failed to win any of their opening games of a campaign since their 1-0 home triumph over Everton back in August 2010.

It did, though, stop a run of three successive defeats to Cardiff.

Rovers suffered a blow before kick off when left back Tommy Spurr was ruled out with a groin injury he sustained in training and was replaced in the starting line-up by Markus Olsson.

But there was better news when it was confirmed that Rudy Gestede – like winger Craig Conway going up against his former club for the first time – had overcome illness to take his place up front alongside Rhodes.

And Gestede was straight into the thick of the action.

There was just 42 seconds gone on the clock when Rovers should have been awarded the first penalty of the Football League season.

Corry Evans swung over a cross from the right toward Gestede whose header – intended for strike-partner Rhodes – hit the hand of Bluebirds captain Mark Hudson just inside the box.

However referee Andrew Madley, who was given no help from his assistants, ruled the offence had taken place a yard outside of the area and disappointingly the resulting free kick from Cairney – starting out on the right but constantly cutting inside looking for the ball – did not beat the wall.

Recently retired World Cup final referee Howard Webb, watching on from the directors’ seats, would not have been impressed.

And salt was rubbed into the wounds in the 18th minute when Hudson created the match’s opening goal.

The hosts could not say they had not been warned.

Moments earlier Peter Whittingham had displayed his expertise from dead-ball situations by swinging over three inviting corner in succession, the first of which resulted in Paul Robinson tipping over from Jones and the third of which saw Matt Connolly head over when he should have troubled the former England international.

But, after Rhodes volleyed over from 20 yards when he had Conway better placed to his left, Jones escaped Alex Baptiste and headed home from close range after Hudson had flicked on Whittingham’s inswinging free kick.

Jones almost inadvertently gifted Rovers an equaliser two minutes later when he headed Conway’s free kick into the path of captain Grant Hanley, whose poked effort was gathered by Marshall.

Jones, who was proving a real handful, then curled a weak shot straight at Robinson after he worked a smart one-two with Nicky Maynard following a long throw down the line.

It proved a costly miss as, after a sustained period of possession, Rovers levelled matters.

Rhodes did brilliantly to rob the ball off Whittingham with a sliding challenge 25 yards from goal and Cairney did the rest with a curling shot that Marshall could only push into the side of the net.

Rovers boss Gary Bowyer, who is fast running out of defensive options, was forced to replace centre back Matt Kilgallon with suspension-free midfielder Lee Williamson at half-time.

But, with debutant Baptiste switching to centre back and Jason Lowe dropping to right back, it failed to knock his side out of their stride and in the 51st minute the towering Gestede looped a header inches past the post after Conway made something out of nothing.

And, despite again dominating the ball after the break, that was the closest Rovers went as Bowyer opted against bringing on any of his attacking options off the bench.

Conway did, however, fizz a free kick over in the dying stages.

Bowyer said: “I thought we deserved a bit more.

“We had a lot of the ball against a team who have just come down from the Premier League.

“Cardiff changed their shape, a compliment to us, and we can take a lot of confidence.

“For all of our possession, perhaps the disappointment is we didn’t create many chances.”

Cairney said of his goal: “It fell to me and the back four dropped, I got a yard and luckily it went in.”

Of the match itself the star midfielder said: “It was a hard-fought game and maybe a fair result.

“We know they have got Premiership quality.”

Cardiff boss Ole Gunnar Solskjaer said: "We defended our goal well.

“I was pleased with the performance and the attitude of the lads, particularly defensively.

“We have come away against a good team and dug out a good result.”

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10:17pm Fri 8 Aug 14

TurfMoor Tom says...

Well what a let down. I was assured by many of my fellow Rovers fans that it was essential we start with a home win against relegated and demoralised Cardiff side. And what do we do?

Two tough games away to Blackpool and Norwich could now see us slipping away already. My early season negativity is fully justified after that poor showing.

Scunthorpe next. How exciting.
Well what a let down. I was assured by many of my fellow Rovers fans that it was essential we start with a home win against relegated and demoralised Cardiff side. And what do we do? Two tough games away to Blackpool and Norwich could now see us slipping away already. My early season negativity is fully justified after that poor showing. Scunthorpe next. How exciting. TurfMoor Tom
  • Score: -122

10:18pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Iiii1111 says...

Potential
Potential Iiii1111
  • Score: 44

10:24pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Iiii1111 says...

Top,top, top of the league;-)
Top,top, top of the league;-) Iiii1111
  • Score: 26

10:25pm Fri 8 Aug 14

rover-till-dudp says...

Well down Rovers and GB. Dominated most of the game. Passing, movement, and ball control a joy to watch. Defense still a bit suspect, Lowe guilty of ball watching for Cardiff’s goal (what else is new). Prospects for the future look good. Special mention for Cairney, what a class act. Again, well done Blues, keep it up.
Well down Rovers and GB. Dominated most of the game. Passing, movement, and ball control a joy to watch. Defense still a bit suspect, Lowe guilty of ball watching for Cardiff’s goal (what else is new). Prospects for the future look good. Special mention for Cairney, what a class act. Again, well done Blues, keep it up. rover-till-dudp
  • Score: 51

10:29pm Fri 8 Aug 14

digitusjonfred says...

Solid start !! Blackpool tough ?? Kidding or what ?? , this was always going to be a tough game with a team with premiership players, Norwich will be a hard game but if unbeaten then it will be a good start, UPWARDS AND ONWARDS MY ROVERS BOYS !!!!!!!!
Solid start !! Blackpool tough ?? Kidding or what ?? , this was always going to be a tough game with a team with premiership players, Norwich will be a hard game but if unbeaten then it will be a good start, UPWARDS AND ONWARDS MY ROVERS BOYS !!!!!!!! digitusjonfred
  • Score: 34

10:31pm Fri 8 Aug 14

greenscreener says...

I hope we will look back on this as a good point, because it was not a bad performance for openers, but I'm tempted to cut and paste what I wrote after the Stoke game because I think it was an opportunity to win, with a braver selection.

GB, please, have you forgotten Sundays game already ? you have seen again that Tom Cairney runs a game from the centre of midfield, starting him out right leaves us unbalanced. Baptiste was flaky at full back but confident at centre half, Lowe was much more settled at Right Back. The last 20 minutes was crying out for Dunns creativity and Kings width and pace, but we persisted with the long ball up to Gestede.

On the positive side we played the better football, and controlled much of the game, neither keeper made many saves but Robbo had much the easier time. What Cardiff had early on was Kenwyne Jones making himself awkward and taking a good set piece goal. Credit to Rovers they dug in and TC got a quality equaliser before half time. The enforced substitution could have brought King into the fame and while Williamson toiled on he did not bring the attacking threat we needed to see the game out.

At an individual level they all played a part, especially Cairney and Gestede but also Ollsen and Conway combined well on the left. but it's frustrating because we have a point when we could so easily have had three.

Onwards and Upwards.
I hope we will look back on this as a good point, because it was not a bad performance for openers, but I'm tempted to cut and paste what I wrote after the Stoke game because I think it was an opportunity to win, with a braver selection. GB, please, have you forgotten Sundays game already ? you have seen again that Tom Cairney runs a game from the centre of midfield, starting him out right leaves us unbalanced. Baptiste was flaky at full back but confident at centre half, Lowe was much more settled at Right Back. The last 20 minutes was crying out for Dunns creativity and Kings width and pace, but we persisted with the long ball up to Gestede. On the positive side we played the better football, and controlled much of the game, neither keeper made many saves but Robbo had much the easier time. What Cardiff had early on was Kenwyne Jones making himself awkward and taking a good set piece goal. Credit to Rovers they dug in and TC got a quality equaliser before half time. The enforced substitution could have brought King into the fame and while Williamson toiled on he did not bring the attacking threat we needed to see the game out. At an individual level they all played a part, especially Cairney and Gestede but also Ollsen and Conway combined well on the left. but it's frustrating because we have a point when we could so easily have had three. Onwards and Upwards. greenscreener
  • Score: 27

10:32pm Fri 8 Aug 14

steve18gls says...

TurfMoor Tom wrote:
Well what a let down. I was assured by many of my fellow Rovers fans that it was essential we start with a home win against relegated and demoralised Cardiff side. And what do we do?

Two tough games away to Blackpool and Norwich could now see us slipping away already. My early season negativity is fully justified after that poor showing.

Scunthorpe next. How exciting.
Moron, ! support burnley then
[quote][p][bold]TurfMoor Tom[/bold] wrote: Well what a let down. I was assured by many of my fellow Rovers fans that it was essential we start with a home win against relegated and demoralised Cardiff side. And what do we do? Two tough games away to Blackpool and Norwich could now see us slipping away already. My early season negativity is fully justified after that poor showing. Scunthorpe next. How exciting.[/p][/quote]Moron, ! support burnley then steve18gls
  • Score: 13

10:32pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Pembina says...

TurfMoor Tom wrote:
Well what a let down. I was assured by many of my fellow Rovers fans that it was essential we start with a home win against relegated and demoralised Cardiff side. And what do we do?

Two tough games away to Blackpool and Norwich could now see us slipping away already. My early season negativity is fully justified after that poor showing.

Scunthorpe next. How exciting.
There's help out there for people like you who cant find one solitary word of praise for a club that's clearly on the mend
[quote][p][bold]TurfMoor Tom[/bold] wrote: Well what a let down. I was assured by many of my fellow Rovers fans that it was essential we start with a home win against relegated and demoralised Cardiff side. And what do we do? Two tough games away to Blackpool and Norwich could now see us slipping away already. My early season negativity is fully justified after that poor showing. Scunthorpe next. How exciting.[/p][/quote]There's help out there for people like you who cant find one solitary word of praise for a club that's clearly on the mend Pembina
  • Score: 22

10:33pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Good call says...

Our defence needs sorting as a matter of urgency, if it isn't it will cost us dearly in the months to come. On the whole not too bad a game, cracking goal from Cairney, bring on the donkey lovers next Saturday.

COYB
Our defence needs sorting as a matter of urgency, if it isn't it will cost us dearly in the months to come. On the whole not too bad a game, cracking goal from Cairney, bring on the donkey lovers next Saturday. COYB Good call
  • Score: 17

10:34pm Fri 8 Aug 14

jack went up says...

Zebra power tonight my friends, what a great atmosphere, some really good football, second half domination and cairney goal was Dunn of old, got to mention baptiste starting to look like a cracking signing
Zebra power tonight my friends, what a great atmosphere, some really good football, second half domination and cairney goal was Dunn of old, got to mention baptiste starting to look like a cracking signing jack went up
  • Score: 24

10:36pm Fri 8 Aug 14

RoversSwiss says...

Disappointed with the result because Rovers were much better than Cardiff, can't believe how defensive Cardiff played, they were very very happy with the point.

We gave them too much respect, I was also guilty of that in a previous post. If they are favourites to win the Championship we have a very good chance of promotion.

Very difficult break down a very defensive set up like Cardiff, but thought most of our lads played really well. Can someone tell Hanley not to pass the ball more than 5 metres, his distribution is a liability, it was his stupid pass that got Lowe booked.

Keep going boys, nothing to fear in this league.
Disappointed with the result because Rovers were much better than Cardiff, can't believe how defensive Cardiff played, they were very very happy with the point. We gave them too much respect, I was also guilty of that in a previous post. If they are favourites to win the Championship we have a very good chance of promotion. Very difficult break down a very defensive set up like Cardiff, but thought most of our lads played really well. Can someone tell Hanley not to pass the ball more than 5 metres, his distribution is a liability, it was his stupid pass that got Lowe booked. Keep going boys, nothing to fear in this league. RoversSwiss
  • Score: 19

10:43pm Fri 8 Aug 14

tall in the saddle says...

Cardiff are a poor team. They were last season and have lost their best plyers since then. Bowyer is just too ndgative.
Cardiff are a poor team. They were last season and have lost their best plyers since then. Bowyer is just too ndgative. tall in the saddle
  • Score: -14

10:46pm Fri 8 Aug 14

jack went up says...

TurfMoor Tom wrote:
Well what a let down. I was assured by many of my fellow Rovers fans that it was essential we start with a home win against relegated and demoralised Cardiff side. And what do we do?

Two tough games away to Blackpool and Norwich could now see us slipping away already. My early season negativity is fully justified after that poor showing.

Scunthorpe next. How exciting.
Over to u boys Chelsea Monday, let's see
[quote][p][bold]TurfMoor Tom[/bold] wrote: Well what a let down. I was assured by many of my fellow Rovers fans that it was essential we start with a home win against relegated and demoralised Cardiff side. And what do we do? Two tough games away to Blackpool and Norwich could now see us slipping away already. My early season negativity is fully justified after that poor showing. Scunthorpe next. How exciting.[/p][/quote]Over to u boys Chelsea Monday, let's see jack went up
  • Score: 8

10:48pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Manuel Hung says...

He scores when he wants, he scores when he wants Jordan R...h..o..d.e.......
..oh forget it......
He scores when he wants, he scores when he wants Jordan R...h..o..d.e....... ..oh forget it...... Manuel Hung
  • Score: -23

10:59pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Good call says...

Manuel Hung wrote:
He scores when he wants, he scores when he wants Jordan R...h..o..d.e.......

..oh forget it......
Go back to your sister/mother you sad act. It's a Friday night and most people are out enjoying themselves or spending time with their family (not in the way you weirdos do), and you're using multiple IDs to troll the web pages of a team you claim to loathe.

Will you come on here after Bonleh's hammering from the mighty Chelsea?
[quote][p][bold]Manuel Hung[/bold] wrote: He scores when he wants, he scores when he wants Jordan R...h..o..d.e....... ..oh forget it......[/p][/quote]Go back to your sister/mother you sad act. It's a Friday night and most people are out enjoying themselves or spending time with their family (not in the way you weirdos do), and you're using multiple IDs to troll the web pages of a team you claim to loathe. Will you come on here after Bonleh's hammering from the mighty Chelsea? Good call
  • Score: 6

11:02pm Fri 8 Aug 14

dinglecrusher says...

"I hope we will look back on this as a good point, because it was not a bad performance for openers, but I'm tempted to cut and paste what I wrote after the Stoke game because I think it was an opportunity to win, with a braver selection.

GB, please, have you forgotten Sundays game already ? you have seen again that Tom Cairney runs a game from the centre of midfield, starting him out right leaves us unbalanced. Baptiste was flaky at full back but confident at centre half, Lowe was much more settled at Right Back. The last 20 minutes was crying out for Dunns creativity and Kings width and pace, but we persisted with the long ball up to Gestede.

On the positive side we played the better football, and controlled much of the game, neither keeper made many saves but Robbo had much the easier time. What Cardiff had early on was Kenwyne Jones making himself awkward and taking a good set piece goal. Credit to Rovers they dug in and TC got a quality equaliser before half time. The enforced substitution could have brought King into the fame and while Williamson toiled on he did not bring the attacking threat we needed to see the game out.

At an individual level they all played a part, especially Cairney and Gestede but also Olsen and Conway combined well on the left. but it's frustrating because we have a point when we could so easily have had three".

Totally agree with your summary. Unfortunately until GB stops putting Lowe first on the team sheet and seeing him as the playmaker when Cairney is in a different class GB will then have to play others out of position e.g. Cairney to accommodate Lowe. He did it most of last season and it cost us. He doesn't appear to have learnt the lesson and has an infatuation with playing Lowe in midfield when he would do a solid job at right back as the second half demonstrated. This allowed Cairney to go back into the middle; when he does we look a different - and much better - side
"I hope we will look back on this as a good point, because it was not a bad performance for openers, but I'm tempted to cut and paste what I wrote after the Stoke game because I think it was an opportunity to win, with a braver selection. GB, please, have you forgotten Sundays game already ? you have seen again that Tom Cairney runs a game from the centre of midfield, starting him out right leaves us unbalanced. Baptiste was flaky at full back but confident at centre half, Lowe was much more settled at Right Back. The last 20 minutes was crying out for Dunns creativity and Kings width and pace, but we persisted with the long ball up to Gestede. On the positive side we played the better football, and controlled much of the game, neither keeper made many saves but Robbo had much the easier time. What Cardiff had early on was Kenwyne Jones making himself awkward and taking a good set piece goal. Credit to Rovers they dug in and TC got a quality equaliser before half time. The enforced substitution could have brought King into the fame and while Williamson toiled on he did not bring the attacking threat we needed to see the game out. At an individual level they all played a part, especially Cairney and Gestede but also Olsen and Conway combined well on the left. but it's frustrating because we have a point when we could so easily have had three". Totally agree with your summary. Unfortunately until GB stops putting Lowe first on the team sheet and seeing him as the playmaker when Cairney is in a different class GB will then have to play others out of position e.g. Cairney to accommodate Lowe. He did it most of last season and it cost us. He doesn't appear to have learnt the lesson and has an infatuation with playing Lowe in midfield when he would do a solid job at right back as the second half demonstrated. This allowed Cairney to go back into the middle; when he does we look a different - and much better - side dinglecrusher
  • Score: 11

11:05pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Give_Kean_A_Chance says...

I thought it was a below par game. I lost interest. 'Twas supposed to be two favourites for promotion, but Cardiff looked very poor and although rovers had some decent possession second half, they just didn't create. Early doors yet though...
I thought it was a below par game. I lost interest. 'Twas supposed to be two favourites for promotion, but Cardiff looked very poor and although rovers had some decent possession second half, they just didn't create. Early doors yet though... Give_Kean_A_Chance
  • Score: -17

11:12pm Fri 8 Aug 14

mushypeaman says...

Not a bad point. A few pluses from the game but Bowyer is so negative. Why no King, Marshall or Dunn on as sub. It is as though he is frightened to attack in case we lose. It was this negative thinking that cost us at least a play off last season. He must try to be more positive.
Good gate for the seasons opener.
Not a bad point. A few pluses from the game but Bowyer is so negative. Why no King, Marshall or Dunn on as sub. It is as though he is frightened to attack in case we lose. It was this negative thinking that cost us at least a play off last season. He must try to be more positive. Good gate for the seasons opener. mushypeaman
  • Score: 14

11:16pm Fri 8 Aug 14

TurfMoor Tom says...

Cardiff were there for the taking and we bottled it once again.

Just like we did on March 9th. What a shambles we have become.

Bowyer needs to up his game and ensure his team takes maximum points from Blackpool and Norwich. We need a motivator in there not a supply teacher, whats wrong with you bowyer!!
Cardiff were there for the taking and we bottled it once again. Just like we did on March 9th. What a shambles we have become. Bowyer needs to up his game and ensure his team takes maximum points from Blackpool and Norwich. We need a motivator in there not a supply teacher, whats wrong with you bowyer!! TurfMoor Tom
  • Score: -33

11:18pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Ashton.1988 says...

Not a bad result at all. A bit more ambition from Bowyer and some fresh legs and we could of won tonight. The game was crying out for dunnys creativity or kings pace in the 2nd half and it would of sent us on the way to 3 points. Definitely need reinforcements in defence and things should be looking pretty good
Not a bad result at all. A bit more ambition from Bowyer and some fresh legs and we could of won tonight. The game was crying out for dunnys creativity or kings pace in the 2nd half and it would of sent us on the way to 3 points. Definitely need reinforcements in defence and things should be looking pretty good Ashton.1988
  • Score: 11

11:28pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Bazzer says...

Disappointed not to see King feature. But Gazzer must have his reasons.
Disappointed not to see King feature. But Gazzer must have his reasons. Bazzer
  • Score: 5

11:29pm Fri 8 Aug 14

owd nick says...

Disappointed with a point at the end of the day.

We were caught cold for Cardiff's opener, we should be able to defend set pieces better than that.

That said it did seem to galvanise Rovers, got them out of the initial rut of pumping the ball up to Gestede and into a more fluid passing game that cause problems for Cardiff without really threatening the goal often enough.

I liked the pressing game which made them think about us and kept them on the back foot from around the middle of the first half and the majority of the second.

Baptiste played well, especially when he switched to centre half in the second half, he put Jones in his back pocket with a couple of good hard challenges that knocked him out of his stride, something that was needed.
Conway and Olson were a constant threat down the left but I wouldn't like to single out any player because it was a real team effort.

I don't have a problem with Cairney starting on the right, he tends to drift in anyway, that's where his goal came from and as long as the team compensate and cover for that, which they did, that's fine, it gives us options.

I don't like pigeonholing players, all the top clubs tend to allow some fluidity of movement and as Rovers gained in confidence as the game wore on that fluidity increased.
Disappointed with a point at the end of the day. We were caught cold for Cardiff's opener, we should be able to defend set pieces better than that. That said it did seem to galvanise Rovers, got them out of the initial rut of pumping the ball up to Gestede and into a more fluid passing game that cause problems for Cardiff without really threatening the goal often enough. I liked the pressing game which made them think about us and kept them on the back foot from around the middle of the first half and the majority of the second. Baptiste played well, especially when he switched to centre half in the second half, he put Jones in his back pocket with a couple of good hard challenges that knocked him out of his stride, something that was needed. Conway and Olson were a constant threat down the left but I wouldn't like to single out any player because it was a real team effort. I don't have a problem with Cairney starting on the right, he tends to drift in anyway, that's where his goal came from and as long as the team compensate and cover for that, which they did, that's fine, it gives us options. I don't like pigeonholing players, all the top clubs tend to allow some fluidity of movement and as Rovers gained in confidence as the game wore on that fluidity increased. owd nick
  • Score: 14

11:30pm Fri 8 Aug 14

more bans than ray - brfc lxxv says...

TurfMoor Tom wrote:
Well what a let down. I was assured by many of my fellow Rovers fans that it was essential we start with a home win against relegated and demoralised Cardiff side. And what do we do?

Two tough games away to Blackpool and Norwich could now see us slipping away already. My early season negativity is fully justified after that poor showing.

Scunthorpe next. How exciting.
Bell End
[quote][p][bold]TurfMoor Tom[/bold] wrote: Well what a let down. I was assured by many of my fellow Rovers fans that it was essential we start with a home win against relegated and demoralised Cardiff side. And what do we do? Two tough games away to Blackpool and Norwich could now see us slipping away already. My early season negativity is fully justified after that poor showing. Scunthorpe next. How exciting.[/p][/quote]Bell End more bans than ray - brfc lxxv
  • Score: 9

11:34pm Fri 8 Aug 14

owd nick says...

more bans than ray - brfc lxxv wrote:
TurfMoor Tom wrote:
Well what a let down. I was assured by many of my fellow Rovers fans that it was essential we start with a home win against relegated and demoralised Cardiff side. And what do we do?

Two tough games away to Blackpool and Norwich could now see us slipping away already. My early season negativity is fully justified after that poor showing.

Scunthorpe next. How exciting.
Bell End
Ray, it's not worth it, just ignore it.
[quote][p][bold]more bans than ray - brfc lxxv[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TurfMoor Tom[/bold] wrote: Well what a let down. I was assured by many of my fellow Rovers fans that it was essential we start with a home win against relegated and demoralised Cardiff side. And what do we do? Two tough games away to Blackpool and Norwich could now see us slipping away already. My early season negativity is fully justified after that poor showing. Scunthorpe next. How exciting.[/p][/quote]Bell End[/p][/quote]Ray, it's not worth it, just ignore it. owd nick
  • Score: 6

11:34pm Fri 8 Aug 14

The Super Blues says...

I thought we played some great football and probably deserved the three points. If Cardiff are the best team in the league we have nothing to fear
I thought we played some great football and probably deserved the three points. If Cardiff are the best team in the league we have nothing to fear The Super Blues
  • Score: 7

11:34pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Manuel Hung says...

Good call wrote:
Manuel Hung wrote:
He scores when he wants, he scores when he wants Jordan R...h..o..d.e.......


..oh forget it......
Go back to your sister/mother you sad act. It's a Friday night and most people are out enjoying themselves or spending time with their family (not in the way you weirdos do), and you're using multiple IDs to troll the web pages of a team you claim to loathe.

Will you come on here after Bonleh's hammering from the mighty Chelsea?
No multiple id's here sonny just me.

Can't be out tonight because I'm up at 6am to go to work tomorrow. I know you won't know what that is but for those that live outside of Dumpburn it's what the rest of the world does with their time instead of drinking Frosty Jack and interfering with horses.

And as a final point. If a Burnley do get beat by Chelsea at least they will have put a full shift in and tried their best in what is arguably a step up in class compared to the 'Chumpionship' against one on the best teams in the Premier League.

Hurts to pit of your stomach doesn't it?
[quote][p][bold]Good call[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Manuel Hung[/bold] wrote: He scores when he wants, he scores when he wants Jordan R...h..o..d.e....... ..oh forget it......[/p][/quote]Go back to your sister/mother you sad act. It's a Friday night and most people are out enjoying themselves or spending time with their family (not in the way you weirdos do), and you're using multiple IDs to troll the web pages of a team you claim to loathe. Will you come on here after Bonleh's hammering from the mighty Chelsea?[/p][/quote]No multiple id's here sonny just me. Can't be out tonight because I'm up at 6am to go to work tomorrow. I know you won't know what that is but for those that live outside of Dumpburn it's what the rest of the world does with their time instead of drinking Frosty Jack and interfering with horses. And as a final point. If a Burnley do get beat by Chelsea at least they will have put a full shift in and tried their best in what is arguably a step up in class compared to the 'Chumpionship' against one on the best teams in the Premier League. Hurts to pit of your stomach doesn't it? Manuel Hung
  • Score: -19

11:37pm Fri 8 Aug 14

goldfinger59 says...

Great performance by us, and Cardiff were lucky to get a point tonight. On another day we would have won comfortably. At least they did their homework, and showed us a lot of respect by coming with a defensive game, but they are going to have to attack a bit more at home, and this is where they will come unstuck in my opinion.
Great performance by us, and Cardiff were lucky to get a point tonight. On another day we would have won comfortably. At least they did their homework, and showed us a lot of respect by coming with a defensive game, but they are going to have to attack a bit more at home, and this is where they will come unstuck in my opinion. goldfinger59
  • Score: 9

11:42pm Fri 8 Aug 14

TurfMoor Tom says...

Solitary points at home will do us no good whatsoever come the end of the season. A great opportunity missed.

I'll stick my neck out here and ask, is Bowyer really the right man for the job?
Solitary points at home will do us no good whatsoever come the end of the season. A great opportunity missed. I'll stick my neck out here and ask, is Bowyer really the right man for the job? TurfMoor Tom
  • Score: -32

12:05am Sat 9 Aug 14

eddyo says...

Nobody wants to lose an opening game shown live on Sky but we need to be more ruthless in future.
*
The attacking balance was absent tonight and fair enough we favoured a combatant midfield. I enjoyed the game but we did not use the flanks enough and we can do better than a high ball for Rudy to head-on time after time.
*
I was (surprisingly) disappointed with Conway and he made a few stupid first half mistakes that could have cost us, but I'll forgive him for his opening game. Lowe looked OK-busy in midfield again but as a full-back has no desire to go down the line - probably because he has limited pace and can't cross. Still, if he stands out wide and calls for the ball he should do something decent with it instead of passing it back inside every time.
*
Rhodes was a bit too quiet for me but if we don't feed him what can we expect?
*
A good, solid start but GB needs to build momentum, take this league by the scruff of the neck and learn to tear teams apart when we get the chance.
Nobody wants to lose an opening game shown live on Sky but we need to be more ruthless in future. * The attacking balance was absent tonight and fair enough we favoured a combatant midfield. I enjoyed the game but we did not use the flanks enough and we can do better than a high ball for Rudy to head-on time after time. * I was (surprisingly) disappointed with Conway and he made a few stupid first half mistakes that could have cost us, but I'll forgive him for his opening game. Lowe looked OK-busy in midfield again but as a full-back has no desire to go down the line - probably because he has limited pace and can't cross. Still, if he stands out wide and calls for the ball he should do something decent with it instead of passing it back inside every time. * Rhodes was a bit too quiet for me but if we don't feed him what can we expect? * A good, solid start but GB needs to build momentum, take this league by the scruff of the neck and learn to tear teams apart when we get the chance. eddyo
  • Score: 9

12:11am Sat 9 Aug 14

BlueSkies says...

If Cardiff are promotion favourites then we are in with a real shout.

We'll play worse than this and batter opponents.

Good, controlled possession for much of the game. We got better after Cardiff scored and pretty much dominated.

Looked good with Baptiste as central defender, Lowe at RB. The surprise for me was the continued improvement of Olsson, his 2nd half was pretty good. Credit to the coaching staff.

Only query has to be why no late substitutions to maybe alter the game?
Otherwise, a good start.
If Cardiff are promotion favourites then we are in with a real shout. We'll play worse than this and batter opponents. Good, controlled possession for much of the game. We got better after Cardiff scored and pretty much dominated. Looked good with Baptiste as central defender, Lowe at RB. The surprise for me was the continued improvement of Olsson, his 2nd half was pretty good. Credit to the coaching staff. Only query has to be why no late substitutions to maybe alter the game? Otherwise, a good start. BlueSkies
  • Score: 10

12:13am Sat 9 Aug 14

more bans than ray - brfc lxxv says...

Manuel Hung wrote:
Good call wrote:
Manuel Hung wrote:
He scores when he wants, he scores when he wants Jordan R...h..o..d.e.......



..oh forget it......
Go back to your sister/mother you sad act. It's a Friday night and most people are out enjoying themselves or spending time with their family (not in the way you weirdos do), and you're using multiple IDs to troll the web pages of a team you claim to loathe.

Will you come on here after Bonleh's hammering from the mighty Chelsea?
No multiple id's here sonny just me.

Can't be out tonight because I'm up at 6am to go to work tomorrow. I know you won't know what that is but for those that live outside of Dumpburn it's what the rest of the world does with their time instead of drinking Frosty Jack and interfering with horses.

And as a final point. If a Burnley do get beat by Chelsea at least they will have put a full shift in and tried their best in what is arguably a step up in class compared to the 'Chumpionship' against one on the best teams in the Premier League.

Hurts to pit of your stomach doesn't it?
Yeah, it really hurts me knowing that Bonleh's latest attempt at Premier League football is being built on trying their best. Add that to the new players tunnel and I've no doubts you'll storm into the top 20.

Back on topic and if Cardiff are gonna be there or there abouts, we'll be just fine. That said, Baptise is no right back/wing back and GB should've put King on for the last 15 mins just to give Cardiff sommat to think about with his raw pace.

All in all I'll take a point for the opener

Oh and Robbo looks to have shed some timber
[quote][p][bold]Manuel Hung[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Good call[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Manuel Hung[/bold] wrote: He scores when he wants, he scores when he wants Jordan R...h..o..d.e....... ..oh forget it......[/p][/quote]Go back to your sister/mother you sad act. It's a Friday night and most people are out enjoying themselves or spending time with their family (not in the way you weirdos do), and you're using multiple IDs to troll the web pages of a team you claim to loathe. Will you come on here after Bonleh's hammering from the mighty Chelsea?[/p][/quote]No multiple id's here sonny just me. Can't be out tonight because I'm up at 6am to go to work tomorrow. I know you won't know what that is but for those that live outside of Dumpburn it's what the rest of the world does with their time instead of drinking Frosty Jack and interfering with horses. And as a final point. If a Burnley do get beat by Chelsea at least they will have put a full shift in and tried their best in what is arguably a step up in class compared to the 'Chumpionship' against one on the best teams in the Premier League. Hurts to pit of your stomach doesn't it?[/p][/quote]Yeah, it really hurts me knowing that Bonleh's latest attempt at Premier League football is being built on trying their best. Add that to the new players tunnel and I've no doubts you'll storm into the top 20. Back on topic and if Cardiff are gonna be there or there abouts, we'll be just fine. That said, Baptise is no right back/wing back and GB should've put King on for the last 15 mins just to give Cardiff sommat to think about with his raw pace. All in all I'll take a point for the opener Oh and Robbo looks to have shed some timber more bans than ray - brfc lxxv
  • Score: 17

12:19am Sat 9 Aug 14

Tatts says...

Decent performance tonight. Back 4 looked better in the second half when Baptiste moved into the centre and Lowe at right back. Would rather see Cairney play down the middle though with Marshall back in the side. Thought Gestede was lacking fitness. Confident that we will improve.
Decent performance tonight. Back 4 looked better in the second half when Baptiste moved into the centre and Lowe at right back. Would rather see Cairney play down the middle though with Marshall back in the side. Thought Gestede was lacking fitness. Confident that we will improve. Tatts
  • Score: 14

12:20am Sat 9 Aug 14

BlueSkies says...

Thought Rhodes is slowly showing a more physical presence tonight, the lack of which has been a downside of his game for me.
Very encouraging.
Thought Rhodes is slowly showing a more physical presence tonight, the lack of which has been a downside of his game for me. Very encouraging. BlueSkies
  • Score: 20

12:28am Sat 9 Aug 14

A Rover 45 years and over says...

Got to agree that we did ok but hope we don't become draw merchants in this early part of the season as we will soon be playing catch up again. On this showing I can see us getting more draws than wins at the moment as we really should have put this game to bed tonight. We didn't vary our tactics enough to bother the Cardiff defence sufficiently. Early days though and time will tell.
Got to agree that we did ok but hope we don't become draw merchants in this early part of the season as we will soon be playing catch up again. On this showing I can see us getting more draws than wins at the moment as we really should have put this game to bed tonight. We didn't vary our tactics enough to bother the Cardiff defence sufficiently. Early days though and time will tell. A Rover 45 years and over
  • Score: 17

12:32am Sat 9 Aug 14

MattNewcastle says...

Ashton.1988 wrote:
Not a bad result at all. A bit more ambition from Bowyer and some fresh legs and we could of won tonight. The game was crying out for dunnys creativity or kings pace in the 2nd half and it would of sent us on the way to 3 points. Definitely need reinforcements in defence and things should be looking pretty good
Not with a manager that is not up to it

What has he done to strengthen pre season in terms of defence

He is a liability

Cairney on the rught is ludicrous

Not having a clue as to how to manage a game in terms of selection / use of the bench

He will play conservatively until we out of any relegation danger and then play a more attacking game but leave it to late again.
[quote][p][bold]Ashton.1988[/bold] wrote: Not a bad result at all. A bit more ambition from Bowyer and some fresh legs and we could of won tonight. The game was crying out for dunnys creativity or kings pace in the 2nd half and it would of sent us on the way to 3 points. Definitely need reinforcements in defence and things should be looking pretty good[/p][/quote]Not with a manager that is not up to it What has he done to strengthen pre season in terms of defence He is a liability Cairney on the rught is ludicrous Not having a clue as to how to manage a game in terms of selection / use of the bench He will play conservatively until we out of any relegation danger and then play a more attacking game but leave it to late again. MattNewcastle
  • Score: -9

12:57am Sat 9 Aug 14

BlueSkies says...

MattNewcastle wrote:
Ashton.1988 wrote:
Not a bad result at all. A bit more ambition from Bowyer and some fresh legs and we could of won tonight. The game was crying out for dunnys creativity or kings pace in the 2nd half and it would of sent us on the way to 3 points. Definitely need reinforcements in defence and things should be looking pretty good
Not with a manager that is not up to it

What has he done to strengthen pre season in terms of defence

He is a liability

Cairney on the rught is ludicrous

Not having a clue as to how to manage a game in terms of selection / use of the bench

He will play conservatively until we out of any relegation danger and then play a more attacking game but leave it to late again.
Cairney on the right!
Are you sure?
Did I witness the same game or are you yet another dingle troll?
[quote][p][bold]MattNewcastle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ashton.1988[/bold] wrote: Not a bad result at all. A bit more ambition from Bowyer and some fresh legs and we could of won tonight. The game was crying out for dunnys creativity or kings pace in the 2nd half and it would of sent us on the way to 3 points. Definitely need reinforcements in defence and things should be looking pretty good[/p][/quote]Not with a manager that is not up to it What has he done to strengthen pre season in terms of defence He is a liability Cairney on the rught is ludicrous Not having a clue as to how to manage a game in terms of selection / use of the bench He will play conservatively until we out of any relegation danger and then play a more attacking game but leave it to late again.[/p][/quote]Cairney on the right! Are you sure? Did I witness the same game or are you yet another dingle troll? BlueSkies
  • Score: 4

1:03am Sat 9 Aug 14

Manuel Hung says...

more bans than ray - brfc lxxv wrote:
Manuel Hung wrote:
Good call wrote:
Manuel Hung wrote:
He scores when he wants, he scores when he wants Jordan R...h..o..d.e.......




..oh forget it......
Go back to your sister/mother you sad act. It's a Friday night and most people are out enjoying themselves or spending time with their family (not in the way you weirdos do), and you're using multiple IDs to troll the web pages of a team you claim to loathe.

Will you come on here after Bonleh's hammering from the mighty Chelsea?
No multiple id's here sonny just me.

Can't be out tonight because I'm up at 6am to go to work tomorrow. I know you won't know what that is but for those that live outside of Dumpburn it's what the rest of the world does with their time instead of drinking Frosty Jack and interfering with horses.

And as a final point. If a Burnley do get beat by Chelsea at least they will have put a full shift in and tried their best in what is arguably a step up in class compared to the 'Chumpionship' against one on the best teams in the Premier League.

Hurts to pit of your stomach doesn't it?
Yeah, it really hurts me knowing that Bonleh's latest attempt at Premier League football is being built on trying their best. Add that to the new players tunnel and I've no doubts you'll storm into the top 20.

Back on topic and if Cardiff are gonna be there or there abouts, we'll be just fine. That said, Baptise is no right back/wing back and GB should've put King on for the last 15 mins just to give Cardiff sommat to think about with his raw pace.

All in all I'll take a point for the opener

Oh and Robbo looks to have shed some timber
"I'll take a point for the opener and Robbo looks to have shed some timber".


What a splendid endorsement of a failing football club. You have put all your eggs in one basket. If you can't get 3 points at home early doors it doesn't bode well for the latter part of the season particularly when FFP sets in does it?

Yes I know you are all going to say that FFP doesn't matter & it's only the first game and all but the promotion push starts now and you are already failing.
[quote][p][bold]more bans than ray - brfc lxxv[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Manuel Hung[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Good call[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Manuel Hung[/bold] wrote: He scores when he wants, he scores when he wants Jordan R...h..o..d.e....... ..oh forget it......[/p][/quote]Go back to your sister/mother you sad act. It's a Friday night and most people are out enjoying themselves or spending time with their family (not in the way you weirdos do), and you're using multiple IDs to troll the web pages of a team you claim to loathe. Will you come on here after Bonleh's hammering from the mighty Chelsea?[/p][/quote]No multiple id's here sonny just me. Can't be out tonight because I'm up at 6am to go to work tomorrow. I know you won't know what that is but for those that live outside of Dumpburn it's what the rest of the world does with their time instead of drinking Frosty Jack and interfering with horses. And as a final point. If a Burnley do get beat by Chelsea at least they will have put a full shift in and tried their best in what is arguably a step up in class compared to the 'Chumpionship' against one on the best teams in the Premier League. Hurts to pit of your stomach doesn't it?[/p][/quote]Yeah, it really hurts me knowing that Bonleh's latest attempt at Premier League football is being built on trying their best. Add that to the new players tunnel and I've no doubts you'll storm into the top 20. Back on topic and if Cardiff are gonna be there or there abouts, we'll be just fine. That said, Baptise is no right back/wing back and GB should've put King on for the last 15 mins just to give Cardiff sommat to think about with his raw pace. All in all I'll take a point for the opener Oh and Robbo looks to have shed some timber[/p][/quote]"I'll take a point for the opener and Robbo looks to have shed some timber". What a splendid endorsement of a failing football club. You have put all your eggs in one basket. If you can't get 3 points at home early doors it doesn't bode well for the latter part of the season particularly when FFP sets in does it? Yes I know you are all going to say that FFP doesn't matter & it's only the first game and all but the promotion push starts now and you are already failing. Manuel Hung
  • Score: -21

1:37am Sat 9 Aug 14

BlueSkies says...

Manuel Hung wrote:
more bans than ray - brfc lxxv wrote:
Manuel Hung wrote:
Good call wrote:
Manuel Hung wrote:
He scores when he wants, he scores when he wants Jordan R...h..o..d.e.......





..oh forget it......
Go back to your sister/mother you sad act. It's a Friday night and most people are out enjoying themselves or spending time with their family (not in the way you weirdos do), and you're using multiple IDs to troll the web pages of a team you claim to loathe.

Will you come on here after Bonleh's hammering from the mighty Chelsea?
No multiple id's here sonny just me.

Can't be out tonight because I'm up at 6am to go to work tomorrow. I know you won't know what that is but for those that live outside of Dumpburn it's what the rest of the world does with their time instead of drinking Frosty Jack and interfering with horses.

And as a final point. If a Burnley do get beat by Chelsea at least they will have put a full shift in and tried their best in what is arguably a step up in class compared to the 'Chumpionship' against one on the best teams in the Premier League.

Hurts to pit of your stomach doesn't it?
Yeah, it really hurts me knowing that Bonleh's latest attempt at Premier League football is being built on trying their best. Add that to the new players tunnel and I've no doubts you'll storm into the top 20.

Back on topic and if Cardiff are gonna be there or there abouts, we'll be just fine. That said, Baptise is no right back/wing back and GB should've put King on for the last 15 mins just to give Cardiff sommat to think about with his raw pace.

All in all I'll take a point for the opener

Oh and Robbo looks to have shed some timber
"I'll take a point for the opener and Robbo looks to have shed some timber".


What a splendid endorsement of a failing football club. You have put all your eggs in one basket. If you can't get 3 points at home early doors it doesn't bode well for the latter part of the season particularly when FFP sets in does it?

Yes I know you are all going to say that FFP doesn't matter & it's only the first game and all but the promotion push starts now and you are already failing.
Who really cares what you think?
[quote][p][bold]Manuel Hung[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]more bans than ray - brfc lxxv[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Manuel Hung[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Good call[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Manuel Hung[/bold] wrote: He scores when he wants, he scores when he wants Jordan R...h..o..d.e....... ..oh forget it......[/p][/quote]Go back to your sister/mother you sad act. It's a Friday night and most people are out enjoying themselves or spending time with their family (not in the way you weirdos do), and you're using multiple IDs to troll the web pages of a team you claim to loathe. Will you come on here after Bonleh's hammering from the mighty Chelsea?[/p][/quote]No multiple id's here sonny just me. Can't be out tonight because I'm up at 6am to go to work tomorrow. I know you won't know what that is but for those that live outside of Dumpburn it's what the rest of the world does with their time instead of drinking Frosty Jack and interfering with horses. And as a final point. If a Burnley do get beat by Chelsea at least they will have put a full shift in and tried their best in what is arguably a step up in class compared to the 'Chumpionship' against one on the best teams in the Premier League. Hurts to pit of your stomach doesn't it?[/p][/quote]Yeah, it really hurts me knowing that Bonleh's latest attempt at Premier League football is being built on trying their best. Add that to the new players tunnel and I've no doubts you'll storm into the top 20. Back on topic and if Cardiff are gonna be there or there abouts, we'll be just fine. That said, Baptise is no right back/wing back and GB should've put King on for the last 15 mins just to give Cardiff sommat to think about with his raw pace. All in all I'll take a point for the opener Oh and Robbo looks to have shed some timber[/p][/quote]"I'll take a point for the opener and Robbo looks to have shed some timber". What a splendid endorsement of a failing football club. You have put all your eggs in one basket. If you can't get 3 points at home early doors it doesn't bode well for the latter part of the season particularly when FFP sets in does it? Yes I know you are all going to say that FFP doesn't matter & it's only the first game and all but the promotion push starts now and you are already failing.[/p][/quote]Who really cares what you think? BlueSkies
  • Score: 6

2:53am Sat 9 Aug 14

The Seagull has landed says...

A communal no-dad semi on over a home draw. Priceless.
Set your expectations low and you won't be disappointed.
A communal no-dad semi on over a home draw. Priceless. Set your expectations low and you won't be disappointed. The Seagull has landed
  • Score: -17

3:03am Sat 9 Aug 14

noddy57 says...

good effort by the Rovers but its a much better point for them than for us. we cannot afford to drop any points at home no-matter who the opposition is.We have to make Ewood a fortress if we are to be a real threat in this division.
good effort by the Rovers but its a much better point for them than for us. we cannot afford to drop any points at home no-matter who the opposition is.We have to make Ewood a fortress if we are to be a real threat in this division. noddy57
  • Score: 14

6:05am Sat 9 Aug 14

French Blue&White says...

Great to get the season underway, a good point and a solid performance against a team that will be there or there abouts. Totally dominated with 65% of the possession.. Feel we'll only get better.. Rhodes work rate was terrific.. Onwards and Upwards COYB!
Great to get the season underway, a good point and a solid performance against a team that will be there or there abouts. Totally dominated with 65% of the possession.. Feel we'll only get better.. Rhodes work rate was terrific.. Onwards and Upwards COYB! French Blue&White
  • Score: 11

6:50am Sat 9 Aug 14

OnePostThenTheOther says...

So Bowyer still hasn't worked out how to use his subs to change a game. If only we had somebody on the bench who we could bring on to run at the oppostion dribbling the ball at his feet when they are defending deep with 10 men. If only we had someone like that on the bench.

Nice bloke, but Bowyer will not get this side promoted. Mind you it's only four years since Venkys turned the club into a pile of dog mess so maybe I should be a bit more patient and enjoy watching the youth team coach's protracted development as a manager.
So Bowyer still hasn't worked out how to use his subs to change a game. If only we had somebody on the bench who we could bring on to run at the oppostion dribbling the ball at his feet when they are defending deep with 10 men. If only we had someone like that on the bench. Nice bloke, but Bowyer will not get this side promoted. Mind you it's only four years since Venkys turned the club into a pile of dog mess so maybe I should be a bit more patient and enjoy watching the youth team coach's protracted development as a manager. OnePostThenTheOther
  • Score: 10

6:56am Sat 9 Aug 14

OnePostThenTheOther says...

OnePostThenTheOther wrote:
So Bowyer still hasn't worked out how to use his subs to change a game. If only we had somebody on the bench who we could bring on to run at the oppostion dribbling the ball at his feet when they are defending deep with 10 men. If only we had someone like that on the bench.

Nice bloke, but Bowyer will not get this side promoted. Mind you it's only four years since Venkys turned the club into a pile of dog mess so maybe I should be a bit more patient and enjoy watching the youth team coach's protracted development as a manager.
Oh wait a minute, there was a fella dressed in a Rovers kit watching the second half from the touchline but with ten minutes to go he disappeared. No not to get ready to come on. He had to go and sit down because he had got a bit tired and was risking an injury.
[quote][p][bold]OnePostThenTheOther[/bold] wrote: So Bowyer still hasn't worked out how to use his subs to change a game. If only we had somebody on the bench who we could bring on to run at the oppostion dribbling the ball at his feet when they are defending deep with 10 men. If only we had someone like that on the bench. Nice bloke, but Bowyer will not get this side promoted. Mind you it's only four years since Venkys turned the club into a pile of dog mess so maybe I should be a bit more patient and enjoy watching the youth team coach's protracted development as a manager.[/p][/quote]Oh wait a minute, there was a fella dressed in a Rovers kit watching the second half from the touchline but with ten minutes to go he disappeared. No not to get ready to come on. He had to go and sit down because he had got a bit tired and was risking an injury. OnePostThenTheOther
  • Score: 3

7:43am Sat 9 Aug 14

forever blue and white says...

Rovers played ok last night and probably deserved the win but there are a few things I don't like about the team selection. Cairney should start in the middle. He is the most creative player in our team. I don't think Baptiste is a right back. He looked good at centre back. Absolutely still not convinced about Hanley. He may be good in a rough game when a bit of muscle is needed but he makes to many little mistakes for me. He is only young though so maybe I am being a little harsh. The most frustrating for me though is GB. Why bring on Williamson when he has moved Lowe to right back. Are we saying that Cairney is at best 4th choice centre mid behind Evans, Lowe and Williamson? I just can't see it. I suspect a point was not a bad point last night but it's a game we could and probably should have won. I said that after to many games last season and we just missed out. I hope it changes soon. By the way if anyone can tell me how Williamson gets a shirt I will be impressed. He is totally useless for me and I fail to see what Evans is supposed to be doing if Williamson or Lowe is being used as the defensive midfielder. Evans doesn't create a lot so what is his job? I like Evans but not alongside Lowe or Williamson. Play Evans as the holding midfielder and let Cairney play. King, Marshall and Conway can play wide. GB has done a great job particularly with the staff turnaround he has managed to achieve. I just think sometimes he is a bit negative and I fear that may cost us again. I really hope not.
Rovers played ok last night and probably deserved the win but there are a few things I don't like about the team selection. Cairney should start in the middle. He is the most creative player in our team. I don't think Baptiste is a right back. He looked good at centre back. Absolutely still not convinced about Hanley. He may be good in a rough game when a bit of muscle is needed but he makes to many little mistakes for me. He is only young though so maybe I am being a little harsh. The most frustrating for me though is GB. Why bring on Williamson when he has moved Lowe to right back. Are we saying that Cairney is at best 4th choice centre mid behind Evans, Lowe and Williamson? I just can't see it. I suspect a point was not a bad point last night but it's a game we could and probably should have won. I said that after to many games last season and we just missed out. I hope it changes soon. By the way if anyone can tell me how Williamson gets a shirt I will be impressed. He is totally useless for me and I fail to see what Evans is supposed to be doing if Williamson or Lowe is being used as the defensive midfielder. Evans doesn't create a lot so what is his job? I like Evans but not alongside Lowe or Williamson. Play Evans as the holding midfielder and let Cairney play. King, Marshall and Conway can play wide. GB has done a great job particularly with the staff turnaround he has managed to achieve. I just think sometimes he is a bit negative and I fear that may cost us again. I really hope not. forever blue and white
  • Score: 10

7:49am Sat 9 Aug 14

notchuffed says...

Tick Tock Tick Tock can you hear the creaking? he trapdoor is getting ready to start opening.

Your doomed I say DOOMED!
Tick Tock Tick Tock can you hear the creaking? he trapdoor is getting ready to start opening. Your doomed I say DOOMED! notchuffed
  • Score: -25

8:27am Sat 9 Aug 14

ZomZom@thePark says...

I watched your game and felt you bossed it in the main. Powerful in places and skilful in others. However there were times when you looked disjointed (Cairney in the middle perhaps?) And in all honesty, I forgot Rhodes was playing until he got a mention late on.
Its a good solid start and you shouldn't be too disappointed to start with a hard earned point.
I had £5 on a 2-2 draw which would have landed £305. Hey-ho.
I watched your game and felt you bossed it in the main. Powerful in places and skilful in others. However there were times when you looked disjointed (Cairney in the middle perhaps?) And in all honesty, I forgot Rhodes was playing until he got a mention late on. Its a good solid start and you shouldn't be too disappointed to start with a hard earned point. I had £5 on a 2-2 draw which would have landed £305. Hey-ho. ZomZom@thePark
  • Score: 8

8:46am Sat 9 Aug 14

owd nick says...

forever blue and white wrote:
Rovers played ok last night and probably deserved the win but there are a few things I don't like about the team selection. Cairney should start in the middle. He is the most creative player in our team. I don't think Baptiste is a right back. He looked good at centre back. Absolutely still not convinced about Hanley. He may be good in a rough game when a bit of muscle is needed but he makes to many little mistakes for me. He is only young though so maybe I am being a little harsh. The most frustrating for me though is GB. Why bring on Williamson when he has moved Lowe to right back. Are we saying that Cairney is at best 4th choice centre mid behind Evans, Lowe and Williamson? I just can't see it. I suspect a point was not a bad point last night but it's a game we could and probably should have won. I said that after to many games last season and we just missed out. I hope it changes soon. By the way if anyone can tell me how Williamson gets a shirt I will be impressed. He is totally useless for me and I fail to see what Evans is supposed to be doing if Williamson or Lowe is being used as the defensive midfielder. Evans doesn't create a lot so what is his job? I like Evans but not alongside Lowe or Williamson. Play Evans as the holding midfielder and let Cairney play. King, Marshall and Conway can play wide. GB has done a great job particularly with the staff turnaround he has managed to achieve. I just think sometimes he is a bit negative and I fear that may cost us again. I really hope not.
I suspect that he brought Williamson on as the holding player to replace Lowe when he switched to Right Back, both did a great job, nothing whatsoever got past them in the second half.

Let's not get too hung up on this, nor the issue with where Cairney plays.

Before the game I was really worried that Cardiff would be too good for for us, yes they have lost a few Pl players but they have a lot of decent players in their ranks, but they were the ones who adopted a defensive frame of mind hoping to snatch a goal from a set piece, if I had been a neutral I would have been pretty disappointed with them, although I still think they a favorites to go up.

Rovers on the other hand mixed it up pretty well, patient flowing football and the occasional long ball to Gestede or Rhodes as a "surprise" for a change.

I agree about the substitution thing, but who would you have taken off to bring on either King or Dunny?

Evans and Cairney dovetailed beautifully, switching positions time after time, Rhodes and Gestede ditto, Williamson worked his socks off behind them, Conway and Olson a constant threat in the second half.

None were showing any signs of tiredness, which is testament to their preparation and fitness. So who do you bring off?

Perhaps Robbo? After all he was totally unemployed in the second half, that's daft.

So it would have had to be a defender, Lowe would have benefited from King coming on, it's ok criticising Lowe (again) but he can't bomb forward if he doesn't have cover, and he is by far our best right back.

But everyone accepts our defence is our weakest point, so why weaken it further?

Like every other team we can only play 10 outfield players.

If one ball had dropped for us in that second half we would have 3 points now and not criticising with if's and and's, we were the better, fitter team, we didn't get what we deserved from the game that's all.

45 more to go.
[quote][p][bold]forever blue and white[/bold] wrote: Rovers played ok last night and probably deserved the win but there are a few things I don't like about the team selection. Cairney should start in the middle. He is the most creative player in our team. I don't think Baptiste is a right back. He looked good at centre back. Absolutely still not convinced about Hanley. He may be good in a rough game when a bit of muscle is needed but he makes to many little mistakes for me. He is only young though so maybe I am being a little harsh. The most frustrating for me though is GB. Why bring on Williamson when he has moved Lowe to right back. Are we saying that Cairney is at best 4th choice centre mid behind Evans, Lowe and Williamson? I just can't see it. I suspect a point was not a bad point last night but it's a game we could and probably should have won. I said that after to many games last season and we just missed out. I hope it changes soon. By the way if anyone can tell me how Williamson gets a shirt I will be impressed. He is totally useless for me and I fail to see what Evans is supposed to be doing if Williamson or Lowe is being used as the defensive midfielder. Evans doesn't create a lot so what is his job? I like Evans but not alongside Lowe or Williamson. Play Evans as the holding midfielder and let Cairney play. King, Marshall and Conway can play wide. GB has done a great job particularly with the staff turnaround he has managed to achieve. I just think sometimes he is a bit negative and I fear that may cost us again. I really hope not.[/p][/quote]I suspect that he brought Williamson on as the holding player to replace Lowe when he switched to Right Back, both did a great job, nothing whatsoever got past them in the second half. Let's not get too hung up on this, nor the issue with where Cairney plays. Before the game I was really worried that Cardiff would be too good for for us, yes they have lost a few Pl players but they have a lot of decent players in their ranks, but they were the ones who adopted a defensive frame of mind hoping to snatch a goal from a set piece, if I had been a neutral I would have been pretty disappointed with them, although I still think they a favorites to go up. Rovers on the other hand mixed it up pretty well, patient flowing football and the occasional long ball to Gestede or Rhodes as a "surprise" for a change. I agree about the substitution thing, but who would you have taken off to bring on either King or Dunny? Evans and Cairney dovetailed beautifully, switching positions time after time, Rhodes and Gestede ditto, Williamson worked his socks off behind them, Conway and Olson a constant threat in the second half. None were showing any signs of tiredness, which is testament to their preparation and fitness. So who do you bring off? Perhaps Robbo? After all he was totally unemployed in the second half, that's daft. So it would have had to be a defender, Lowe would have benefited from King coming on, it's ok criticising Lowe (again) but he can't bomb forward if he doesn't have cover, and he is by far our best right back. But everyone accepts our defence is our weakest point, so why weaken it further? Like every other team we can only play 10 outfield players. If one ball had dropped for us in that second half we would have 3 points now and not criticising with if's and and's, we were the better, fitter team, we didn't get what we deserved from the game that's all. 45 more to go. owd nick
  • Score: 0

9:10am Sat 9 Aug 14

greenscreener says...

owd nick wrote:
forever blue and white wrote:
Rovers played ok last night and probably deserved the win but there are a few things I don't like about the team selection. Cairney should start in the middle. He is the most creative player in our team. I don't think Baptiste is a right back. He looked good at centre back. Absolutely still not convinced about Hanley. He may be good in a rough game when a bit of muscle is needed but he makes to many little mistakes for me. He is only young though so maybe I am being a little harsh. The most frustrating for me though is GB. Why bring on Williamson when he has moved Lowe to right back. Are we saying that Cairney is at best 4th choice centre mid behind Evans, Lowe and Williamson? I just can't see it. I suspect a point was not a bad point last night but it's a game we could and probably should have won. I said that after to many games last season and we just missed out. I hope it changes soon. By the way if anyone can tell me how Williamson gets a shirt I will be impressed. He is totally useless for me and I fail to see what Evans is supposed to be doing if Williamson or Lowe is being used as the defensive midfielder. Evans doesn't create a lot so what is his job? I like Evans but not alongside Lowe or Williamson. Play Evans as the holding midfielder and let Cairney play. King, Marshall and Conway can play wide. GB has done a great job particularly with the staff turnaround he has managed to achieve. I just think sometimes he is a bit negative and I fear that may cost us again. I really hope not.
I suspect that he brought Williamson on as the holding player to replace Lowe when he switched to Right Back, both did a great job, nothing whatsoever got past them in the second half.

Let's not get too hung up on this, nor the issue with where Cairney plays.

Before the game I was really worried that Cardiff would be too good for for us, yes they have lost a few Pl players but they have a lot of decent players in their ranks, but they were the ones who adopted a defensive frame of mind hoping to snatch a goal from a set piece, if I had been a neutral I would have been pretty disappointed with them, although I still think they a favorites to go up.

Rovers on the other hand mixed it up pretty well, patient flowing football and the occasional long ball to Gestede or Rhodes as a "surprise" for a change.

I agree about the substitution thing, but who would you have taken off to bring on either King or Dunny?

Evans and Cairney dovetailed beautifully, switching positions time after time, Rhodes and Gestede ditto, Williamson worked his socks off behind them, Conway and Olson a constant threat in the second half.

None were showing any signs of tiredness, which is testament to their preparation and fitness. So who do you bring off?

Perhaps Robbo? After all he was totally unemployed in the second half, that's daft.

So it would have had to be a defender, Lowe would have benefited from King coming on, it's ok criticising Lowe (again) but he can't bomb forward if he doesn't have cover, and he is by far our best right back.

But everyone accepts our defence is our weakest point, so why weaken it further?

Like every other team we can only play 10 outfield players.

If one ball had dropped for us in that second half we would have 3 points now and not criticising with if's and and's, we were the better, fitter team, we didn't get what we deserved from the game that's all.

45 more to go.
Not sure in agree there nick. Fabio looked very weak but was rarely attacked with pace in the second half. Had king come on instead of Williamson Cardiff would have been stretched right across their back line and we would have created many more openings. Cairney can boss the game from the centre, with Evans in behind him, as they did against Stoke, and with two wingers to aim at would have had plenty of outlets to attack. As it was we got far too congested in the middle, through balls into our forwards, and the knock downs from Gestede, were just being crowded out.

Just an opinion from the Riverside, everybody sees it differently, that's why we love it !
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]forever blue and white[/bold] wrote: Rovers played ok last night and probably deserved the win but there are a few things I don't like about the team selection. Cairney should start in the middle. He is the most creative player in our team. I don't think Baptiste is a right back. He looked good at centre back. Absolutely still not convinced about Hanley. He may be good in a rough game when a bit of muscle is needed but he makes to many little mistakes for me. He is only young though so maybe I am being a little harsh. The most frustrating for me though is GB. Why bring on Williamson when he has moved Lowe to right back. Are we saying that Cairney is at best 4th choice centre mid behind Evans, Lowe and Williamson? I just can't see it. I suspect a point was not a bad point last night but it's a game we could and probably should have won. I said that after to many games last season and we just missed out. I hope it changes soon. By the way if anyone can tell me how Williamson gets a shirt I will be impressed. He is totally useless for me and I fail to see what Evans is supposed to be doing if Williamson or Lowe is being used as the defensive midfielder. Evans doesn't create a lot so what is his job? I like Evans but not alongside Lowe or Williamson. Play Evans as the holding midfielder and let Cairney play. King, Marshall and Conway can play wide. GB has done a great job particularly with the staff turnaround he has managed to achieve. I just think sometimes he is a bit negative and I fear that may cost us again. I really hope not.[/p][/quote]I suspect that he brought Williamson on as the holding player to replace Lowe when he switched to Right Back, both did a great job, nothing whatsoever got past them in the second half. Let's not get too hung up on this, nor the issue with where Cairney plays. Before the game I was really worried that Cardiff would be too good for for us, yes they have lost a few Pl players but they have a lot of decent players in their ranks, but they were the ones who adopted a defensive frame of mind hoping to snatch a goal from a set piece, if I had been a neutral I would have been pretty disappointed with them, although I still think they a favorites to go up. Rovers on the other hand mixed it up pretty well, patient flowing football and the occasional long ball to Gestede or Rhodes as a "surprise" for a change. I agree about the substitution thing, but who would you have taken off to bring on either King or Dunny? Evans and Cairney dovetailed beautifully, switching positions time after time, Rhodes and Gestede ditto, Williamson worked his socks off behind them, Conway and Olson a constant threat in the second half. None were showing any signs of tiredness, which is testament to their preparation and fitness. So who do you bring off? Perhaps Robbo? After all he was totally unemployed in the second half, that's daft. So it would have had to be a defender, Lowe would have benefited from King coming on, it's ok criticising Lowe (again) but he can't bomb forward if he doesn't have cover, and he is by far our best right back. But everyone accepts our defence is our weakest point, so why weaken it further? Like every other team we can only play 10 outfield players. If one ball had dropped for us in that second half we would have 3 points now and not criticising with if's and and's, we were the better, fitter team, we didn't get what we deserved from the game that's all. 45 more to go.[/p][/quote]Not sure in agree there nick. Fabio looked very weak but was rarely attacked with pace in the second half. Had king come on instead of Williamson Cardiff would have been stretched right across their back line and we would have created many more openings. Cairney can boss the game from the centre, with Evans in behind him, as they did against Stoke, and with two wingers to aim at would have had plenty of outlets to attack. As it was we got far too congested in the middle, through balls into our forwards, and the knock downs from Gestede, were just being crowded out. Just an opinion from the Riverside, everybody sees it differently, that's why we love it ! greenscreener
  • Score: 8

9:38am Sat 9 Aug 14

Elysiumfire says...

Not a bad start to the season for 'woevers', but it could have been better. Periods of excellent possession and pressing, but only a solitary goal - superbly taken by Cairney - to show for all the bluster.

Too early to tell anything from it, but certainly a cause for optimism. Let's see where you are after 6 games?

Cardiff looked poor and lacking their stated ambition. On their performance last night, if it continues, they will not get any where near the Prem.

Woevers should be in the top ten throughout the season, and may well finish in the top six, but not the top 3. You need to be much more ruthless than what was shown last night, and you'll need to be winning games with 3 goals minimum for a good goal difference. Still, I think the chance is there this season, it's up to the players to take it.
UTC's!
Not a bad start to the season for 'woevers', but it could have been better. Periods of excellent possession and pressing, but only a solitary goal - superbly taken by Cairney - to show for all the bluster. Too early to tell anything from it, but certainly a cause for optimism. Let's see where you are after 6 games? Cardiff looked poor and lacking their stated ambition. On their performance last night, if it continues, they will not get any where near the Prem. Woevers should be in the top ten throughout the season, and may well finish in the top six, but not the top 3. You need to be much more ruthless than what was shown last night, and you'll need to be winning games with 3 goals minimum for a good goal difference. Still, I think the chance is there this season, it's up to the players to take it. UTC's! Elysiumfire
  • Score: 6

9:56am Sat 9 Aug 14

aviitt says...

Elysiumfire wrote:
Not a bad start to the season for 'woevers', but it could have been better. Periods of excellent possession and pressing, but only a solitary goal - superbly taken by Cairney - to show for all the bluster.

Too early to tell anything from it, but certainly a cause for optimism. Let's see where you are after 6 games?

Cardiff looked poor and lacking their stated ambition. On their performance last night, if it continues, they will not get any where near the Prem.

Woevers should be in the top ten throughout the season, and may well finish in the top six, but not the top 3. You need to be much more ruthless than what was shown last night, and you'll need to be winning games with 3 goals minimum for a good goal difference. Still, I think the chance is there this season, it's up to the players to take it.
UTC's!
Fairly sensible comments. I agree with you completely. It's imperative that periods of such dominance result in goals if you're to get anywhere in this league. I think a braver team selection/set of substitutions could've contributed but a good performance nevertheless.
[quote][p][bold]Elysiumfire[/bold] wrote: Not a bad start to the season for 'woevers', but it could have been better. Periods of excellent possession and pressing, but only a solitary goal - superbly taken by Cairney - to show for all the bluster. Too early to tell anything from it, but certainly a cause for optimism. Let's see where you are after 6 games? Cardiff looked poor and lacking their stated ambition. On their performance last night, if it continues, they will not get any where near the Prem. Woevers should be in the top ten throughout the season, and may well finish in the top six, but not the top 3. You need to be much more ruthless than what was shown last night, and you'll need to be winning games with 3 goals minimum for a good goal difference. Still, I think the chance is there this season, it's up to the players to take it. UTC's![/p][/quote]Fairly sensible comments. I agree with you completely. It's imperative that periods of such dominance result in goals if you're to get anywhere in this league. I think a braver team selection/set of substitutions could've contributed but a good performance nevertheless. aviitt
  • Score: 4

9:59am Sat 9 Aug 14

gazzandste says...

forever blue and white wrote:
Rovers played ok last night and probably deserved the win but there are a few things I don't like about the team selection. Cairney should start in the middle. He is the most creative player in our team. I don't think Baptiste is a right back. He looked good at centre back. Absolutely still not convinced about Hanley. He may be good in a rough game when a bit of muscle is needed but he makes to many little mistakes for me. He is only young though so maybe I am being a little harsh. The most frustrating for me though is GB. Why bring on Williamson when he has moved Lowe to right back. Are we saying that Cairney is at best 4th choice centre mid behind Evans, Lowe and Williamson? I just can't see it. I suspect a point was not a bad point last night but it's a game we could and probably should have won. I said that after to many games last season and we just missed out. I hope it changes soon. By the way if anyone can tell me how Williamson gets a shirt I will be impressed. He is totally useless for me and I fail to see what Evans is supposed to be doing if Williamson or Lowe is being used as the defensive midfielder. Evans doesn't create a lot so what is his job? I like Evans but not alongside Lowe or Williamson. Play Evans as the holding midfielder and let Cairney play. King, Marshall and Conway can play wide. GB has done a great job particularly with the staff turnaround he has managed to achieve. I just think sometimes he is a bit negative and I fear that may cost us again. I really hope not.
Rovers probably deserved the win ? They didn`t win they drew 1-1.
[quote][p][bold]forever blue and white[/bold] wrote: Rovers played ok last night and probably deserved the win but there are a few things I don't like about the team selection. Cairney should start in the middle. He is the most creative player in our team. I don't think Baptiste is a right back. He looked good at centre back. Absolutely still not convinced about Hanley. He may be good in a rough game when a bit of muscle is needed but he makes to many little mistakes for me. He is only young though so maybe I am being a little harsh. The most frustrating for me though is GB. Why bring on Williamson when he has moved Lowe to right back. Are we saying that Cairney is at best 4th choice centre mid behind Evans, Lowe and Williamson? I just can't see it. I suspect a point was not a bad point last night but it's a game we could and probably should have won. I said that after to many games last season and we just missed out. I hope it changes soon. By the way if anyone can tell me how Williamson gets a shirt I will be impressed. He is totally useless for me and I fail to see what Evans is supposed to be doing if Williamson or Lowe is being used as the defensive midfielder. Evans doesn't create a lot so what is his job? I like Evans but not alongside Lowe or Williamson. Play Evans as the holding midfielder and let Cairney play. King, Marshall and Conway can play wide. GB has done a great job particularly with the staff turnaround he has managed to achieve. I just think sometimes he is a bit negative and I fear that may cost us again. I really hope not.[/p][/quote]Rovers probably deserved the win ? They didn`t win they drew 1-1. gazzandste
  • Score: 2

10:02am Sat 9 Aug 14

Captain Dreckley says...

First competitive game of the season so no complaints, both sides lacking the sharpness it takes two or three matches to get. Lots of possession and some good play. For me the biggest thing was we have to sort the defence. Kilgannon is wasteful and a liability so we looked so much better with Baptist and Hanley as central defensive partnership with Lowe at right back and even Marcus had a decent game at left back, but showed as a left winger when he got forward his final ball into the box is awful. GB needs to get a couple more in to strengthen the defence and we will do well this season. Looking forward to the battle of the Mourinio's at Dingley Dell, the ginger one and the special one. Working in London this week and talking to a couple of Chelsea fans going to the game and wouldn't have it about wooden seats. Well done GB and the team, first point on the board and some good football.
First competitive game of the season so no complaints, both sides lacking the sharpness it takes two or three matches to get. Lots of possession and some good play. For me the biggest thing was we have to sort the defence. Kilgannon is wasteful and a liability so we looked so much better with Baptist and Hanley as central defensive partnership with Lowe at right back and even Marcus had a decent game at left back, but showed as a left winger when he got forward his final ball into the box is awful. GB needs to get a couple more in to strengthen the defence and we will do well this season. Looking forward to the battle of the Mourinio's at Dingley Dell, the ginger one and the special one. Working in London this week and talking to a couple of Chelsea fans going to the game and wouldn't have it about wooden seats. Well done GB and the team, first point on the board and some good football. Captain Dreckley
  • Score: 4

10:07am Sat 9 Aug 14

Harwoodstblue says...

Elysiumfire wrote:
Not a bad start to the season for 'woevers', but it could have been better. Periods of excellent possession and pressing, but only a solitary goal - superbly taken by Cairney - to show for all the bluster.

Too early to tell anything from it, but certainly a cause for optimism. Let's see where you are after 6 games?

Cardiff looked poor and lacking their stated ambition. On their performance last night, if it continues, they will not get any where near the Prem.

Woevers should be in the top ten throughout the season, and may well finish in the top six, but not the top 3. You need to be much more ruthless than what was shown last night, and you'll need to be winning games with 3 goals minimum for a good goal difference. Still, I think the chance is there this season, it's up to the players to take it.
UTC's!
Well said that Claret. Like you say let's see where we are after six games. These early exchanges often don't give a true indication of what is to come as it takes a few games for teams to get into their stride. To say Cardiff are favorites to go up we aquitted ourselves very well against them and arguably should have taken the three points with a bit more luck (penalty decision ) and based on the possession that we enjoyed. We need to make more chances though and more importantly, take them. As said though, early days.
[quote][p][bold]Elysiumfire[/bold] wrote: Not a bad start to the season for 'woevers', but it could have been better. Periods of excellent possession and pressing, but only a solitary goal - superbly taken by Cairney - to show for all the bluster. Too early to tell anything from it, but certainly a cause for optimism. Let's see where you are after 6 games? Cardiff looked poor and lacking their stated ambition. On their performance last night, if it continues, they will not get any where near the Prem. Woevers should be in the top ten throughout the season, and may well finish in the top six, but not the top 3. You need to be much more ruthless than what was shown last night, and you'll need to be winning games with 3 goals minimum for a good goal difference. Still, I think the chance is there this season, it's up to the players to take it. UTC's![/p][/quote]Well said that Claret. Like you say let's see where we are after six games. These early exchanges often don't give a true indication of what is to come as it takes a few games for teams to get into their stride. To say Cardiff are favorites to go up we aquitted ourselves very well against them and arguably should have taken the three points with a bit more luck (penalty decision ) and based on the possession that we enjoyed. We need to make more chances though and more importantly, take them. As said though, early days. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 3

10:17am Sat 9 Aug 14

dangerous dave says...

GB If this is raring to go then we are in for another season of the same.
Sloppy goal given away a good 70% of the play in a scrappy second half and you still havent a clue as to how to use your subs to grind out a win - apart from our goal which was superb nothing at all to 'write home' about - draws are simply not good enough at home and on this showing from your performance in respect of tactics and that of your defence nothing seems to have changed!!!
Regarding the gate of 15k when you take away the travelling fans and paying at the gate so to speak we are left with more or less the same season ticket sales as last season and not has we were lead to believe with the PR from Ewood of thousands of more ticket holders - no just like GB lots of hot air!!!!!!!!!!!
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
GB If this is raring to go then we are in for another season of the same. Sloppy goal given away a good 70% of the play in a scrappy second half and you still havent a clue as to how to use your subs to grind out a win - apart from our goal which was superb nothing at all to 'write home' about - draws are simply not good enough at home and on this showing from your performance in respect of tactics and that of your defence nothing seems to have changed!!! Regarding the gate of 15k when you take away the travelling fans and paying at the gate so to speak we are left with more or less the same season ticket sales as last season and not has we were lead to believe with the PR from Ewood of thousands of more ticket holders - no just like GB lots of hot air!!!!!!!!!!! OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS dangerous dave
  • Score: -16

10:26am Sat 9 Aug 14

kitchener2 says...

TurfMoor Tom wrote:
Well what a let down. I was assured by many of my fellow Rovers fans that it was essential we start with a home win against relegated and demoralised Cardiff side. And what do we do?

Two tough games away to Blackpool and Norwich could now see us slipping away already. My early season negativity is fully justified after that poor showing.

Scunthorpe next. How exciting.
A tough away game against Blackpool....you're having a laugh! They are odds on to drop this season, it should be a walk over.
[quote][p][bold]TurfMoor Tom[/bold] wrote: Well what a let down. I was assured by many of my fellow Rovers fans that it was essential we start with a home win against relegated and demoralised Cardiff side. And what do we do? Two tough games away to Blackpool and Norwich could now see us slipping away already. My early season negativity is fully justified after that poor showing. Scunthorpe next. How exciting.[/p][/quote]A tough away game against Blackpool....you're having a laugh! They are odds on to drop this season, it should be a walk over. kitchener2
  • Score: 2

10:31am Sat 9 Aug 14

hmibennett says...

Lots of good sense here alongside the expected rubbish. What is certain is that Baptiste looks better at CH than RB (Kilgallon's lack of physical presence was shown up by Jones, and there will be other forwards who can do the same), Cairney should be in central midfield and Bowyer MUST develop some sense of adventure. Safety-first arguably cost us a play-off place last season (not that we were anywhere near ready for a return to the PL) and it could be the same this year. Home games like this MUST be won - 13 games unbeaten is a meaningless statistic if a large proportion of them are 1-pointers.
Lots of good sense here alongside the expected rubbish. What is certain is that Baptiste looks better at CH than RB (Kilgallon's lack of physical presence was shown up by Jones, and there will be other forwards who can do the same), Cairney should be in central midfield and Bowyer MUST develop some sense of adventure. Safety-first arguably cost us a play-off place last season (not that we were anywhere near ready for a return to the PL) and it could be the same this year. Home games like this MUST be won - 13 games unbeaten is a meaningless statistic if a large proportion of them are 1-pointers. hmibennett
  • Score: 5

10:33am Sat 9 Aug 14

kitchener2 says...

Manuel Hung wrote:
more bans than ray - brfc lxxv wrote:
Manuel Hung wrote:
Good call wrote:
Manuel Hung wrote:
He scores when he wants, he scores when he wants Jordan R...h..o..d.e.......





..oh forget it......
Go back to your sister/mother you sad act. It's a Friday night and most people are out enjoying themselves or spending time with their family (not in the way you weirdos do), and you're using multiple IDs to troll the web pages of a team you claim to loathe.

Will you come on here after Bonleh's hammering from the mighty Chelsea?
No multiple id's here sonny just me.

Can't be out tonight because I'm up at 6am to go to work tomorrow. I know you won't know what that is but for those that live outside of Dumpburn it's what the rest of the world does with their time instead of drinking Frosty Jack and interfering with horses.

And as a final point. If a Burnley do get beat by Chelsea at least they will have put a full shift in and tried their best in what is arguably a step up in class compared to the 'Chumpionship' against one on the best teams in the Premier League.

Hurts to pit of your stomach doesn't it?
Yeah, it really hurts me knowing that Bonleh's latest attempt at Premier League football is being built on trying their best. Add that to the new players tunnel and I've no doubts you'll storm into the top 20.

Back on topic and if Cardiff are gonna be there or there abouts, we'll be just fine. That said, Baptise is no right back/wing back and GB should've put King on for the last 15 mins just to give Cardiff sommat to think about with his raw pace.

All in all I'll take a point for the opener

Oh and Robbo looks to have shed some timber
"I'll take a point for the opener and Robbo looks to have shed some timber".


What a splendid endorsement of a failing football club. You have put all your eggs in one basket. If you can't get 3 points at home early doors it doesn't bode well for the latter part of the season particularly when FFP sets in does it?

Yes I know you are all going to say that FFP doesn't matter & it's only the first game and all but the promotion push starts now and you are already failing.
"Three points at home early doors" yes-right , let's see what you tramps do in your first game.....I'm laughing already and there's still a week to go. Bottom of the prem in two weeks, love it!
[quote][p][bold]Manuel Hung[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]more bans than ray - brfc lxxv[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Manuel Hung[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Good call[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Manuel Hung[/bold] wrote: He scores when he wants, he scores when he wants Jordan R...h..o..d.e....... ..oh forget it......[/p][/quote]Go back to your sister/mother you sad act. It's a Friday night and most people are out enjoying themselves or spending time with their family (not in the way you weirdos do), and you're using multiple IDs to troll the web pages of a team you claim to loathe. Will you come on here after Bonleh's hammering from the mighty Chelsea?[/p][/quote]No multiple id's here sonny just me. Can't be out tonight because I'm up at 6am to go to work tomorrow. I know you won't know what that is but for those that live outside of Dumpburn it's what the rest of the world does with their time instead of drinking Frosty Jack and interfering with horses. And as a final point. If a Burnley do get beat by Chelsea at least they will have put a full shift in and tried their best in what is arguably a step up in class compared to the 'Chumpionship' against one on the best teams in the Premier League. Hurts to pit of your stomach doesn't it?[/p][/quote]Yeah, it really hurts me knowing that Bonleh's latest attempt at Premier League football is being built on trying their best. Add that to the new players tunnel and I've no doubts you'll storm into the top 20. Back on topic and if Cardiff are gonna be there or there abouts, we'll be just fine. That said, Baptise is no right back/wing back and GB should've put King on for the last 15 mins just to give Cardiff sommat to think about with his raw pace. All in all I'll take a point for the opener Oh and Robbo looks to have shed some timber[/p][/quote]"I'll take a point for the opener and Robbo looks to have shed some timber". What a splendid endorsement of a failing football club. You have put all your eggs in one basket. If you can't get 3 points at home early doors it doesn't bode well for the latter part of the season particularly when FFP sets in does it? Yes I know you are all going to say that FFP doesn't matter & it's only the first game and all but the promotion push starts now and you are already failing.[/p][/quote]"Three points at home early doors" yes-right , let's see what you tramps do in your first game.....I'm laughing already and there's still a week to go. Bottom of the prem in two weeks, love it! kitchener2
  • Score: 3

10:42am Sat 9 Aug 14

Still a Wild Rover says...

owd nick wrote:
forever blue and white wrote:
Rovers played ok last night and probably deserved the win but there are a few things I don't like about the team selection. Cairney should start in the middle. He is the most creative player in our team. I don't think Baptiste is a right back. He looked good at centre back. Absolutely still not convinced about Hanley. He may be good in a rough game when a bit of muscle is needed but he makes to many little mistakes for me. He is only young though so maybe I am being a little harsh. The most frustrating for me though is GB. Why bring on Williamson when he has moved Lowe to right back. Are we saying that Cairney is at best 4th choice centre mid behind Evans, Lowe and Williamson? I just can't see it. I suspect a point was not a bad point last night but it's a game we could and probably should have won. I said that after to many games last season and we just missed out. I hope it changes soon. By the way if anyone can tell me how Williamson gets a shirt I will be impressed. He is totally useless for me and I fail to see what Evans is supposed to be doing if Williamson or Lowe is being used as the defensive midfielder. Evans doesn't create a lot so what is his job? I like Evans but not alongside Lowe or Williamson. Play Evans as the holding midfielder and let Cairney play. King, Marshall and Conway can play wide. GB has done a great job particularly with the staff turnaround he has managed to achieve. I just think sometimes he is a bit negative and I fear that may cost us again. I really hope not.
I suspect that he brought Williamson on as the holding player to replace Lowe when he switched to Right Back, both did a great job, nothing whatsoever got past them in the second half.

Let's not get too hung up on this, nor the issue with where Cairney plays.

Before the game I was really worried that Cardiff would be too good for for us, yes they have lost a few Pl players but they have a lot of decent players in their ranks, but they were the ones who adopted a defensive frame of mind hoping to snatch a goal from a set piece, if I had been a neutral I would have been pretty disappointed with them, although I still think they a favorites to go up.

Rovers on the other hand mixed it up pretty well, patient flowing football and the occasional long ball to Gestede or Rhodes as a "surprise" for a change.

I agree about the substitution thing, but who would you have taken off to bring on either King or Dunny?

Evans and Cairney dovetailed beautifully, switching positions time after time, Rhodes and Gestede ditto, Williamson worked his socks off behind them, Conway and Olson a constant threat in the second half.

None were showing any signs of tiredness, which is testament to their preparation and fitness. So who do you bring off?

Perhaps Robbo? After all he was totally unemployed in the second half, that's daft.

So it would have had to be a defender, Lowe would have benefited from King coming on, it's ok criticising Lowe (again) but he can't bomb forward if he doesn't have cover, and he is by far our best right back.

But everyone accepts our defence is our weakest point, so why weaken it further?

Like every other team we can only play 10 outfield players.

If one ball had dropped for us in that second half we would have 3 points now and not criticising with if's and and's, we were the better, fitter team, we didn't get what we deserved from the game that's all.

45 more to go.
Nick, spot on assessment, totally agree.
Positives for me were Robbo looks 20/30 pounds lighter, Rhodes maybe 10 heavier with some obvious upper body work over the summer. He was much stronger than I have ever seen him last night and giving some muscle back to the defenders for a big improvement in his game. as you said general fitness levels lokked great. Subs?? a good manager knows not to change what aint busted.
the only negative for me was that Conway dissapointed me by not taking on the Cardiff defence enough but hey, he will have better games
Good game to watch and a great crowd / atmosphere. Starting to feel like the Ewood of old!
Noticed the Venkys were there in force but liked how everyone just ignored them basically. No negative chants and rants or abuse, just cool indifference. Best way to deal with them and if they continue to support the club financially then maybe one day we will give them a nod of recognition!
I feel like we have our Rovers back and we have found a winner in GB
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]forever blue and white[/bold] wrote: Rovers played ok last night and probably deserved the win but there are a few things I don't like about the team selection. Cairney should start in the middle. He is the most creative player in our team. I don't think Baptiste is a right back. He looked good at centre back. Absolutely still not convinced about Hanley. He may be good in a rough game when a bit of muscle is needed but he makes to many little mistakes for me. He is only young though so maybe I am being a little harsh. The most frustrating for me though is GB. Why bring on Williamson when he has moved Lowe to right back. Are we saying that Cairney is at best 4th choice centre mid behind Evans, Lowe and Williamson? I just can't see it. I suspect a point was not a bad point last night but it's a game we could and probably should have won. I said that after to many games last season and we just missed out. I hope it changes soon. By the way if anyone can tell me how Williamson gets a shirt I will be impressed. He is totally useless for me and I fail to see what Evans is supposed to be doing if Williamson or Lowe is being used as the defensive midfielder. Evans doesn't create a lot so what is his job? I like Evans but not alongside Lowe or Williamson. Play Evans as the holding midfielder and let Cairney play. King, Marshall and Conway can play wide. GB has done a great job particularly with the staff turnaround he has managed to achieve. I just think sometimes he is a bit negative and I fear that may cost us again. I really hope not.[/p][/quote]I suspect that he brought Williamson on as the holding player to replace Lowe when he switched to Right Back, both did a great job, nothing whatsoever got past them in the second half. Let's not get too hung up on this, nor the issue with where Cairney plays. Before the game I was really worried that Cardiff would be too good for for us, yes they have lost a few Pl players but they have a lot of decent players in their ranks, but they were the ones who adopted a defensive frame of mind hoping to snatch a goal from a set piece, if I had been a neutral I would have been pretty disappointed with them, although I still think they a favorites to go up. Rovers on the other hand mixed it up pretty well, patient flowing football and the occasional long ball to Gestede or Rhodes as a "surprise" for a change. I agree about the substitution thing, but who would you have taken off to bring on either King or Dunny? Evans and Cairney dovetailed beautifully, switching positions time after time, Rhodes and Gestede ditto, Williamson worked his socks off behind them, Conway and Olson a constant threat in the second half. None were showing any signs of tiredness, which is testament to their preparation and fitness. So who do you bring off? Perhaps Robbo? After all he was totally unemployed in the second half, that's daft. So it would have had to be a defender, Lowe would have benefited from King coming on, it's ok criticising Lowe (again) but he can't bomb forward if he doesn't have cover, and he is by far our best right back. But everyone accepts our defence is our weakest point, so why weaken it further? Like every other team we can only play 10 outfield players. If one ball had dropped for us in that second half we would have 3 points now and not criticising with if's and and's, we were the better, fitter team, we didn't get what we deserved from the game that's all. 45 more to go.[/p][/quote]Nick, spot on assessment, totally agree. Positives for me were Robbo looks 20/30 pounds lighter, Rhodes maybe 10 heavier with some obvious upper body work over the summer. He was much stronger than I have ever seen him last night and giving some muscle back to the defenders for a big improvement in his game. as you said general fitness levels lokked great. Subs?? a good manager knows not to change what aint busted. the only negative for me was that Conway dissapointed me by not taking on the Cardiff defence enough but hey, he will have better games Good game to watch and a great crowd / atmosphere. Starting to feel like the Ewood of old! Noticed the Venkys were there in force but liked how everyone just ignored them basically. No negative chants and rants or abuse, just cool indifference. Best way to deal with them and if they continue to support the club financially then maybe one day we will give them a nod of recognition! I feel like we have our Rovers back and we have found a winner in GB Still a Wild Rover
  • Score: 2

11:46am Sat 9 Aug 14

aviitt says...

I agree Cairney's best position is in the middle but I kind of think until we sign another competent defender playing with two holding midfielders isn't a bad idea. It gives our very shaky defence a bit more protection because if the opposing midfielders were to start finding more room in the areas in which they occupy it could be dangerous for us. Cairney out wide is most definitely something I don't want to see for any longer than until the end of this month but like I say until a defender is signed it might be necessary. Maybe arguable that it leaves us a bit stale creatively based on last night, however for what Cardiff lacked in all other areas they were very strong at the back, a slightly weaker defensive side probably would've caved. We didn't have any problems scoring goals with Cairney out wide last season and probably won't this season, for now.
I agree Cairney's best position is in the middle but I kind of think until we sign another competent defender playing with two holding midfielders isn't a bad idea. It gives our very shaky defence a bit more protection because if the opposing midfielders were to start finding more room in the areas in which they occupy it could be dangerous for us. Cairney out wide is most definitely something I don't want to see for any longer than until the end of this month but like I say until a defender is signed it might be necessary. Maybe arguable that it leaves us a bit stale creatively based on last night, however for what Cardiff lacked in all other areas they were very strong at the back, a slightly weaker defensive side probably would've caved. We didn't have any problems scoring goals with Cairney out wide last season and probably won't this season, for now. aviitt
  • Score: 2

11:57am Sat 9 Aug 14

mark anthony says...

One swallow doesn't make a summer. Deference still looks a bit shaddy
One swallow doesn't make a summer. Deference still looks a bit shaddy mark anthony
  • Score: -3

12:47pm Sat 9 Aug 14

A Darener says...

So! Football is back, even on these pages. Thank goodness! Now perhaps we can settle down to what really matters football matches. Up and running unbeaten in one, top of the league, :). What more can we ask?
Satisfying weekend.
So! Football is back, even on these pages. Thank goodness! Now perhaps we can settle down to what really matters football matches. Up and running unbeaten in one, top of the league, :). What more can we ask? Satisfying weekend. A Darener
  • Score: 2

1:25pm Sat 9 Aug 14

Jr11BRFC says...

Manuel Hung wrote:
more bans than ray - brfc lxxv wrote:
Manuel Hung wrote:
Good call wrote:
Manuel Hung wrote:
He scores when he wants, he scores when he wants Jordan R...h..o..d.e.......





..oh forget it......
Go back to your sister/mother you sad act. It's a Friday night and most people are out enjoying themselves or spending time with their family (not in the way you weirdos do), and you're using multiple IDs to troll the web pages of a team you claim to loathe.

Will you come on here after Bonleh's hammering from the mighty Chelsea?
No multiple id's here sonny just me.

Can't be out tonight because I'm up at 6am to go to work tomorrow. I know you won't know what that is but for those that live outside of Dumpburn it's what the rest of the world does with their time instead of drinking Frosty Jack and interfering with horses.

And as a final point. If a Burnley do get beat by Chelsea at least they will have put a full shift in and tried their best in what is arguably a step up in class compared to the 'Chumpionship' against one on the best teams in the Premier League.

Hurts to pit of your stomach doesn't it?
Yeah, it really hurts me knowing that Bonleh's latest attempt at Premier League football is being built on trying their best. Add that to the new players tunnel and I've no doubts you'll storm into the top 20.

Back on topic and if Cardiff are gonna be there or there abouts, we'll be just fine. That said, Baptise is no right back/wing back and GB should've put King on for the last 15 mins just to give Cardiff sommat to think about with his raw pace.

All in all I'll take a point for the opener

Oh and Robbo looks to have shed some timber
"I'll take a point for the opener and Robbo looks to have shed some timber".


What a splendid endorsement of a failing football club. You have put all your eggs in one basket. If you can't get 3 points at home early doors it doesn't bode well for the latter part of the season particularly when FFP sets in does it?

Yes I know you are all going to say that FFP doesn't matter & it's only the first game and all but the promotion push starts now and you are already failing.
you absolute moron. You drew against Bolton in your first home game and you gained automatic promotion so I wouldnt say it doesn't bode well. Such a stupid thing to say.
[quote][p][bold]Manuel Hung[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]more bans than ray - brfc lxxv[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Manuel Hung[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Good call[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Manuel Hung[/bold] wrote: He scores when he wants, he scores when he wants Jordan R...h..o..d.e....... ..oh forget it......[/p][/quote]Go back to your sister/mother you sad act. It's a Friday night and most people are out enjoying themselves or spending time with their family (not in the way you weirdos do), and you're using multiple IDs to troll the web pages of a team you claim to loathe. Will you come on here after Bonleh's hammering from the mighty Chelsea?[/p][/quote]No multiple id's here sonny just me. Can't be out tonight because I'm up at 6am to go to work tomorrow. I know you won't know what that is but for those that live outside of Dumpburn it's what the rest of the world does with their time instead of drinking Frosty Jack and interfering with horses. And as a final point. If a Burnley do get beat by Chelsea at least they will have put a full shift in and tried their best in what is arguably a step up in class compared to the 'Chumpionship' against one on the best teams in the Premier League. Hurts to pit of your stomach doesn't it?[/p][/quote]Yeah, it really hurts me knowing that Bonleh's latest attempt at Premier League football is being built on trying their best. Add that to the new players tunnel and I've no doubts you'll storm into the top 20. Back on topic and if Cardiff are gonna be there or there abouts, we'll be just fine. That said, Baptise is no right back/wing back and GB should've put King on for the last 15 mins just to give Cardiff sommat to think about with his raw pace. All in all I'll take a point for the opener Oh and Robbo looks to have shed some timber[/p][/quote]"I'll take a point for the opener and Robbo looks to have shed some timber". What a splendid endorsement of a failing football club. You have put all your eggs in one basket. If you can't get 3 points at home early doors it doesn't bode well for the latter part of the season particularly when FFP sets in does it? Yes I know you are all going to say that FFP doesn't matter & it's only the first game and all but the promotion push starts now and you are already failing.[/p][/quote]you absolute moron. You drew against Bolton in your first home game and you gained automatic promotion so I wouldnt say it doesn't bode well. Such a stupid thing to say. Jr11BRFC
  • Score: 5

1:27pm Sat 9 Aug 14

A Darener says...

They don't let facts get in the way of a stupid statement.
They don't let facts get in the way of a stupid statement. A Darener
  • Score: 2

2:17pm Sat 9 Aug 14

Maxrus says...

If this had been an evenly contested match then I would have settled for a point, however, it wasn't. It was plain to see from the start of the second half what Cardiff's tactics were - two banks of back line and midfield and play out a draw. How does GB counter this? he does absolutely nothing!
GB has worked wonders off the field in turning the squad around but my biggest concern was if GB would/could rid himself of his over-cautious tactics.
We are at home against, what turned out, a very poor Cardiff team and he couldn't change personnel to break them down for fear of losing. IMO, with half an hour left I would have brought King on down the right and brought Evans off (he would never have taken Williamson off after only coming on at h/t) and played Cairney in the middle.
GB has given himself the tools to play a more offensive game but chooses not to when the occasion was presented to him.
His lack of bravery/ambition made it far too easy for the Cardiff defence with Marshall hardly being worked at all.
It matters not a jot whether this was the first, middle or last game of the season, the opposition were there for the taking last night and we failed to capitalise. Draws will not get us out of this league, we have to win our home games and see how things go away from home.
Fully expecting lots of thumbs down but what the heck, he now has a team that can get us at least in the top six if only he can break that shackle and let them go out and express themselves.
If this had been an evenly contested match then I would have settled for a point, however, it wasn't. It was plain to see from the start of the second half what Cardiff's tactics were - two banks of back line and midfield and play out a draw. How does GB counter this? he does absolutely nothing! GB has worked wonders off the field in turning the squad around but my biggest concern was if GB would/could rid himself of his over-cautious tactics. We are at home against, what turned out, a very poor Cardiff team and he couldn't change personnel to break them down for fear of losing. IMO, with half an hour left I would have brought King on down the right and brought Evans off (he would never have taken Williamson off after only coming on at h/t) and played Cairney in the middle. GB has given himself the tools to play a more offensive game but chooses not to when the occasion was presented to him. His lack of bravery/ambition made it far too easy for the Cardiff defence with Marshall hardly being worked at all. It matters not a jot whether this was the first, middle or last game of the season, the opposition were there for the taking last night and we failed to capitalise. Draws will not get us out of this league, we have to win our home games and see how things go away from home. Fully expecting lots of thumbs down but what the heck, he now has a team that can get us at least in the top six if only he can break that shackle and let them go out and express themselves. Maxrus
  • Score: 5

2:24pm Sat 9 Aug 14

Its Only a game boy says...

A Darener wrote:
So! Football is back, even on these pages. Thank goodness! Now perhaps we can settle down to what really matters football matches. Up and running unbeaten in one, top of the league, :). What more can we ask?
Satisfying weekend.
Well you won't be top of the league after today's games so enjoy the moment - it may very well be the only time you get to experience it again
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: So! Football is back, even on these pages. Thank goodness! Now perhaps we can settle down to what really matters football matches. Up and running unbeaten in one, top of the league, :). What more can we ask? Satisfying weekend.[/p][/quote]Well you won't be top of the league after today's games so enjoy the moment - it may very well be the only time you get to experience it again Its Only a game boy
  • Score: -6

2:26pm Sat 9 Aug 14

A Darener says...

Its Only a game boy wrote:
A Darener wrote:
So! Football is back, even on these pages. Thank goodness! Now perhaps we can settle down to what really matters football matches. Up and running unbeaten in one, top of the league, :). What more can we ask?
Satisfying weekend.
Well you won't be top of the league after today's games so enjoy the moment - it may very well be the only time you get to experience it again
As I expected...you couldn't resist.
[quote][p][bold]Its Only a game boy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: So! Football is back, even on these pages. Thank goodness! Now perhaps we can settle down to what really matters football matches. Up and running unbeaten in one, top of the league, :). What more can we ask? Satisfying weekend.[/p][/quote]Well you won't be top of the league after today's games so enjoy the moment - it may very well be the only time you get to experience it again[/p][/quote]As I expected...you couldn't resist. A Darener
  • Score: 5

4:08pm Sat 9 Aug 14

owd nick says...

greenscreener wrote:
owd nick wrote:
forever blue and white wrote:
Rovers played ok last night and probably deserved the win but there are a few things I don't like about the team selection. Cairney should start in the middle. He is the most creative player in our team. I don't think Baptiste is a right back. He looked good at centre back. Absolutely still not convinced about Hanley. He may be good in a rough game when a bit of muscle is needed but he makes to many little mistakes for me. He is only young though so maybe I am being a little harsh. The most frustrating for me though is GB. Why bring on Williamson when he has moved Lowe to right back. Are we saying that Cairney is at best 4th choice centre mid behind Evans, Lowe and Williamson? I just can't see it. I suspect a point was not a bad point last night but it's a game we could and probably should have won. I said that after to many games last season and we just missed out. I hope it changes soon. By the way if anyone can tell me how Williamson gets a shirt I will be impressed. He is totally useless for me and I fail to see what Evans is supposed to be doing if Williamson or Lowe is being used as the defensive midfielder. Evans doesn't create a lot so what is his job? I like Evans but not alongside Lowe or Williamson. Play Evans as the holding midfielder and let Cairney play. King, Marshall and Conway can play wide. GB has done a great job particularly with the staff turnaround he has managed to achieve. I just think sometimes he is a bit negative and I fear that may cost us again. I really hope not.
I suspect that he brought Williamson on as the holding player to replace Lowe when he switched to Right Back, both did a great job, nothing whatsoever got past them in the second half.

Let's not get too hung up on this, nor the issue with where Cairney plays.

Before the game I was really worried that Cardiff would be too good for for us, yes they have lost a few Pl players but they have a lot of decent players in their ranks, but they were the ones who adopted a defensive frame of mind hoping to snatch a goal from a set piece, if I had been a neutral I would have been pretty disappointed with them, although I still think they a favorites to go up.

Rovers on the other hand mixed it up pretty well, patient flowing football and the occasional long ball to Gestede or Rhodes as a "surprise" for a change.

I agree about the substitution thing, but who would you have taken off to bring on either King or Dunny?

Evans and Cairney dovetailed beautifully, switching positions time after time, Rhodes and Gestede ditto, Williamson worked his socks off behind them, Conway and Olson a constant threat in the second half.

None were showing any signs of tiredness, which is testament to their preparation and fitness. So who do you bring off?

Perhaps Robbo? After all he was totally unemployed in the second half, that's daft.

So it would have had to be a defender, Lowe would have benefited from King coming on, it's ok criticising Lowe (again) but he can't bomb forward if he doesn't have cover, and he is by far our best right back.

But everyone accepts our defence is our weakest point, so why weaken it further?

Like every other team we can only play 10 outfield players.

If one ball had dropped for us in that second half we would have 3 points now and not criticising with if's and and's, we were the better, fitter team, we didn't get what we deserved from the game that's all.

45 more to go.
Not sure in agree there nick. Fabio looked very weak but was rarely attacked with pace in the second half. Had king come on instead of Williamson Cardiff would have been stretched right across their back line and we would have created many more openings. Cairney can boss the game from the centre, with Evans in behind him, as they did against Stoke, and with two wingers to aim at would have had plenty of outlets to attack. As it was we got far too congested in the middle, through balls into our forwards, and the knock downs from Gestede, were just being crowded out.

Just an opinion from the Riverside, everybody sees it differently, that's why we love it !
I agree that had he brought King on instead of Williamson we could have switched Cairney into the middle, also agree he is far more effective there, but that would have opened the midfield up to them.

But that would have given us 6 attacking players, a hole in the middle then 4 defenders.

GB likes that holding midfielder (I do as well) Williamson or Lowe fill that role especially in a tight game.

There was so much expectation on this game that to many Rovers fans a loss would have been unacceptable.

But like you said, it's all about opinion, even us in the Jack Walker have them!
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]forever blue and white[/bold] wrote: Rovers played ok last night and probably deserved the win but there are a few things I don't like about the team selection. Cairney should start in the middle. He is the most creative player in our team. I don't think Baptiste is a right back. He looked good at centre back. Absolutely still not convinced about Hanley. He may be good in a rough game when a bit of muscle is needed but he makes to many little mistakes for me. He is only young though so maybe I am being a little harsh. The most frustrating for me though is GB. Why bring on Williamson when he has moved Lowe to right back. Are we saying that Cairney is at best 4th choice centre mid behind Evans, Lowe and Williamson? I just can't see it. I suspect a point was not a bad point last night but it's a game we could and probably should have won. I said that after to many games last season and we just missed out. I hope it changes soon. By the way if anyone can tell me how Williamson gets a shirt I will be impressed. He is totally useless for me and I fail to see what Evans is supposed to be doing if Williamson or Lowe is being used as the defensive midfielder. Evans doesn't create a lot so what is his job? I like Evans but not alongside Lowe or Williamson. Play Evans as the holding midfielder and let Cairney play. King, Marshall and Conway can play wide. GB has done a great job particularly with the staff turnaround he has managed to achieve. I just think sometimes he is a bit negative and I fear that may cost us again. I really hope not.[/p][/quote]I suspect that he brought Williamson on as the holding player to replace Lowe when he switched to Right Back, both did a great job, nothing whatsoever got past them in the second half. Let's not get too hung up on this, nor the issue with where Cairney plays. Before the game I was really worried that Cardiff would be too good for for us, yes they have lost a few Pl players but they have a lot of decent players in their ranks, but they were the ones who adopted a defensive frame of mind hoping to snatch a goal from a set piece, if I had been a neutral I would have been pretty disappointed with them, although I still think they a favorites to go up. Rovers on the other hand mixed it up pretty well, patient flowing football and the occasional long ball to Gestede or Rhodes as a "surprise" for a change. I agree about the substitution thing, but who would you have taken off to bring on either King or Dunny? Evans and Cairney dovetailed beautifully, switching positions time after time, Rhodes and Gestede ditto, Williamson worked his socks off behind them, Conway and Olson a constant threat in the second half. None were showing any signs of tiredness, which is testament to their preparation and fitness. So who do you bring off? Perhaps Robbo? After all he was totally unemployed in the second half, that's daft. So it would have had to be a defender, Lowe would have benefited from King coming on, it's ok criticising Lowe (again) but he can't bomb forward if he doesn't have cover, and he is by far our best right back. But everyone accepts our defence is our weakest point, so why weaken it further? Like every other team we can only play 10 outfield players. If one ball had dropped for us in that second half we would have 3 points now and not criticising with if's and and's, we were the better, fitter team, we didn't get what we deserved from the game that's all. 45 more to go.[/p][/quote]Not sure in agree there nick. Fabio looked very weak but was rarely attacked with pace in the second half. Had king come on instead of Williamson Cardiff would have been stretched right across their back line and we would have created many more openings. Cairney can boss the game from the centre, with Evans in behind him, as they did against Stoke, and with two wingers to aim at would have had plenty of outlets to attack. As it was we got far too congested in the middle, through balls into our forwards, and the knock downs from Gestede, were just being crowded out. Just an opinion from the Riverside, everybody sees it differently, that's why we love it ![/p][/quote]I agree that had he brought King on instead of Williamson we could have switched Cairney into the middle, also agree he is far more effective there, but that would have opened the midfield up to them. But that would have given us 6 attacking players, a hole in the middle then 4 defenders. GB likes that holding midfielder (I do as well) Williamson or Lowe fill that role especially in a tight game. There was so much expectation on this game that to many Rovers fans a loss would have been unacceptable. But like you said, it's all about opinion, even us in the Jack Walker have them! owd nick
  • Score: 0

11:31pm Sat 9 Aug 14

Angry From Accrington says...

TurfMoor Tom wrote:
Solitary points at home will do us no good whatsoever come the end of the season. A great opportunity missed.

I'll stick my neck out here and ask, is Bowyer really the right man for the job?
Rather than sticking your neck out, try winding it in
[quote][p][bold]TurfMoor Tom[/bold] wrote: Solitary points at home will do us no good whatsoever come the end of the season. A great opportunity missed. I'll stick my neck out here and ask, is Bowyer really the right man for the job?[/p][/quote]Rather than sticking your neck out, try winding it in Angry From Accrington
  • Score: 3

12:20am Sun 10 Aug 14

digitusjonfred says...

As I said above SOLID START, go you Rovers !!!!!!!!!!
As I said above SOLID START, go you Rovers !!!!!!!!!! digitusjonfred
  • Score: 4

9:55am Sun 10 Aug 14

bburnrover says...

Well before the game I wrote that we needed to get that winning confidence from our pre season but we didn't and once again we end up with yet another draw. The team pass well and midfield looks great especially Cairney but the forward line especially our wide men don't take the ball on into the area so we do not create enough chances.I believe it may be coaching that is at fault because our attacks peter out with too many players taking the easy route of passing back instead of beating a man and creating opportunities.I feel we still require two defenders of better quality than we have now so we need to spend some money and we will have a chance.The Blackpool match will indicate how we will go on as on paper we should win it but if we continue to pass back all the time expect another draw.
Well before the game I wrote that we needed to get that winning confidence from our pre season but we didn't and once again we end up with yet another draw. The team pass well and midfield looks great especially Cairney but the forward line especially our wide men don't take the ball on into the area so we do not create enough chances.I believe it may be coaching that is at fault because our attacks peter out with too many players taking the easy route of passing back instead of beating a man and creating opportunities.I feel we still require two defenders of better quality than we have now so we need to spend some money and we will have a chance.The Blackpool match will indicate how we will go on as on paper we should win it but if we continue to pass back all the time expect another draw. bburnrover
  • Score: 2

12:03pm Sun 10 Aug 14

forever blue and white says...

owd nick wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
owd nick wrote:
forever blue and white wrote:
Rovers played ok last night and probably deserved the win but there are a few things I don't like about the team selection. Cairney should start in the middle. He is the most creative player in our team. I don't think Baptiste is a right back. He looked good at centre back. Absolutely still not convinced about Hanley. He may be good in a rough game when a bit of muscle is needed but he makes to many little mistakes for me. He is only young though so maybe I am being a little harsh. The most frustrating for me though is GB. Why bring on Williamson when he has moved Lowe to right back. Are we saying that Cairney is at best 4th choice centre mid behind Evans, Lowe and Williamson? I just can't see it. I suspect a point was not a bad point last night but it's a game we could and probably should have won. I said that after to many games last season and we just missed out. I hope it changes soon. By the way if anyone can tell me how Williamson gets a shirt I will be impressed. He is totally useless for me and I fail to see what Evans is supposed to be doing if Williamson or Lowe is being used as the defensive midfielder. Evans doesn't create a lot so what is his job? I like Evans but not alongside Lowe or Williamson. Play Evans as the holding midfielder and let Cairney play. King, Marshall and Conway can play wide. GB has done a great job particularly with the staff turnaround he has managed to achieve. I just think sometimes he is a bit negative and I fear that may cost us again. I really hope not.
I suspect that he brought Williamson on as the holding player to replace Lowe when he switched to Right Back, both did a great job, nothing whatsoever got past them in the second half.

Let's not get too hung up on this, nor the issue with where Cairney plays.

Before the game I was really worried that Cardiff would be too good for for us, yes they have lost a few Pl players but they have a lot of decent players in their ranks, but they were the ones who adopted a defensive frame of mind hoping to snatch a goal from a set piece, if I had been a neutral I would have been pretty disappointed with them, although I still think they a favorites to go up.

Rovers on the other hand mixed it up pretty well, patient flowing football and the occasional long ball to Gestede or Rhodes as a "surprise" for a change.

I agree about the substitution thing, but who would you have taken off to bring on either King or Dunny?

Evans and Cairney dovetailed beautifully, switching positions time after time, Rhodes and Gestede ditto, Williamson worked his socks off behind them, Conway and Olson a constant threat in the second half.

None were showing any signs of tiredness, which is testament to their preparation and fitness. So who do you bring off?

Perhaps Robbo? After all he was totally unemployed in the second half, that's daft.

So it would have had to be a defender, Lowe would have benefited from King coming on, it's ok criticising Lowe (again) but he can't bomb forward if he doesn't have cover, and he is by far our best right back.

But everyone accepts our defence is our weakest point, so why weaken it further?

Like every other team we can only play 10 outfield players.

If one ball had dropped for us in that second half we would have 3 points now and not criticising with if's and and's, we were the better, fitter team, we didn't get what we deserved from the game that's all.

45 more to go.
Not sure in agree there nick. Fabio looked very weak but was rarely attacked with pace in the second half. Had king come on instead of Williamson Cardiff would have been stretched right across their back line and we would have created many more openings. Cairney can boss the game from the centre, with Evans in behind him, as they did against Stoke, and with two wingers to aim at would have had plenty of outlets to attack. As it was we got far too congested in the middle, through balls into our forwards, and the knock downs from Gestede, were just being crowded out.

Just an opinion from the Riverside, everybody sees it differently, that's why we love it !
I agree that had he brought King on instead of Williamson we could have switched Cairney into the middle, also agree he is far more effective there, but that would have opened the midfield up to them.

But that would have given us 6 attacking players, a hole in the middle then 4 defenders.

GB likes that holding midfielder (I do as well) Williamson or Lowe fill that role especially in a tight game.

There was so much expectation on this game that to many Rovers fans a loss would have been unacceptable.

But like you said, it's all about opinion, even us in the Jack Walker have them!
Obviously he brought Williamson on for Lowe Owd Nick. My point is should he be doing this when we should be trying to win games. Also my point was are we saying Cairney is 4th choice midfielder?
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]forever blue and white[/bold] wrote: Rovers played ok last night and probably deserved the win but there are a few things I don't like about the team selection. Cairney should start in the middle. He is the most creative player in our team. I don't think Baptiste is a right back. He looked good at centre back. Absolutely still not convinced about Hanley. He may be good in a rough game when a bit of muscle is needed but he makes to many little mistakes for me. He is only young though so maybe I am being a little harsh. The most frustrating for me though is GB. Why bring on Williamson when he has moved Lowe to right back. Are we saying that Cairney is at best 4th choice centre mid behind Evans, Lowe and Williamson? I just can't see it. I suspect a point was not a bad point last night but it's a game we could and probably should have won. I said that after to many games last season and we just missed out. I hope it changes soon. By the way if anyone can tell me how Williamson gets a shirt I will be impressed. He is totally useless for me and I fail to see what Evans is supposed to be doing if Williamson or Lowe is being used as the defensive midfielder. Evans doesn't create a lot so what is his job? I like Evans but not alongside Lowe or Williamson. Play Evans as the holding midfielder and let Cairney play. King, Marshall and Conway can play wide. GB has done a great job particularly with the staff turnaround he has managed to achieve. I just think sometimes he is a bit negative and I fear that may cost us again. I really hope not.[/p][/quote]I suspect that he brought Williamson on as the holding player to replace Lowe when he switched to Right Back, both did a great job, nothing whatsoever got past them in the second half. Let's not get too hung up on this, nor the issue with where Cairney plays. Before the game I was really worried that Cardiff would be too good for for us, yes they have lost a few Pl players but they have a lot of decent players in their ranks, but they were the ones who adopted a defensive frame of mind hoping to snatch a goal from a set piece, if I had been a neutral I would have been pretty disappointed with them, although I still think they a favorites to go up. Rovers on the other hand mixed it up pretty well, patient flowing football and the occasional long ball to Gestede or Rhodes as a "surprise" for a change. I agree about the substitution thing, but who would you have taken off to bring on either King or Dunny? Evans and Cairney dovetailed beautifully, switching positions time after time, Rhodes and Gestede ditto, Williamson worked his socks off behind them, Conway and Olson a constant threat in the second half. None were showing any signs of tiredness, which is testament to their preparation and fitness. So who do you bring off? Perhaps Robbo? After all he was totally unemployed in the second half, that's daft. So it would have had to be a defender, Lowe would have benefited from King coming on, it's ok criticising Lowe (again) but he can't bomb forward if he doesn't have cover, and he is by far our best right back. But everyone accepts our defence is our weakest point, so why weaken it further? Like every other team we can only play 10 outfield players. If one ball had dropped for us in that second half we would have 3 points now and not criticising with if's and and's, we were the better, fitter team, we didn't get what we deserved from the game that's all. 45 more to go.[/p][/quote]Not sure in agree there nick. Fabio looked very weak but was rarely attacked with pace in the second half. Had king come on instead of Williamson Cardiff would have been stretched right across their back line and we would have created many more openings. Cairney can boss the game from the centre, with Evans in behind him, as they did against Stoke, and with two wingers to aim at would have had plenty of outlets to attack. As it was we got far too congested in the middle, through balls into our forwards, and the knock downs from Gestede, were just being crowded out. Just an opinion from the Riverside, everybody sees it differently, that's why we love it ![/p][/quote]I agree that had he brought King on instead of Williamson we could have switched Cairney into the middle, also agree he is far more effective there, but that would have opened the midfield up to them. But that would have given us 6 attacking players, a hole in the middle then 4 defenders. GB likes that holding midfielder (I do as well) Williamson or Lowe fill that role especially in a tight game. There was so much expectation on this game that to many Rovers fans a loss would have been unacceptable. But like you said, it's all about opinion, even us in the Jack Walker have them![/p][/quote]Obviously he brought Williamson on for Lowe Owd Nick. My point is should he be doing this when we should be trying to win games. Also my point was are we saying Cairney is 4th choice midfielder? forever blue and white
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12:11pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Still a Wild Rover says...

bburnrover wrote:
Well before the game I wrote that we needed to get that winning confidence from our pre season but we didn't and once again we end up with yet another draw. The team pass well and midfield looks great especially Cairney but the forward line especially our wide men don't take the ball on into the area so we do not create enough chances.I believe it may be coaching that is at fault because our attacks peter out with too many players taking the easy route of passing back instead of beating a man and creating opportunities.I feel we still require two defenders of better quality than we have now so we need to spend some money and we will have a chance.The Blackpool match will indicate how we will go on as on paper we should win it but if we continue to pass back all the time expect another draw.
What utter bull.....
[quote][p][bold]bburnrover[/bold] wrote: Well before the game I wrote that we needed to get that winning confidence from our pre season but we didn't and once again we end up with yet another draw. The team pass well and midfield looks great especially Cairney but the forward line especially our wide men don't take the ball on into the area so we do not create enough chances.I believe it may be coaching that is at fault because our attacks peter out with too many players taking the easy route of passing back instead of beating a man and creating opportunities.I feel we still require two defenders of better quality than we have now so we need to spend some money and we will have a chance.The Blackpool match will indicate how we will go on as on paper we should win it but if we continue to pass back all the time expect another draw.[/p][/quote]What utter bull..... Still a Wild Rover
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7:11pm Sun 10 Aug 14

johnley says...

why are blackburn fc, not a winning team any more. my money is on them going down to 2nd.
why are blackburn fc, not a winning team any more. my money is on them going down to 2nd. johnley
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9:36pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Maxrus says...

johnley wrote:
why are blackburn fc, not a winning team any more. my money is on them going down to 2nd.
And tell us little Jonnie, how much of your pocket money will you be putting on that bet ?
[quote][p][bold]johnley[/bold] wrote: why are blackburn fc, not a winning team any more. my money is on them going down to 2nd.[/p][/quote]And tell us little Jonnie, how much of your pocket money will you be putting on that bet ? Maxrus
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