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Short: Settled Rovers defence vital for promotion push

Lancashire Telegraph: Short wants to see a settled Rovers defence in a bid for promotion push Short wants to see a settled Rovers defence in a bid for promotion push

CRAIG Short believes keeping a settled defence is going to be crucial to Blackburn Rovers’ bid for promotion.

Rovers were forced to chop and change at the back last season because of a combination of injuries, departures and loss of form.

But, thanks to a storming 12-game unbeaten at the end of the campaign, they finished just two points shy of the play-offs.

That has given Rovers supporters real hope their revitalised side can improve upon their eighth place finish and break into the top six next season.

But first-team coach and former centre back Short knows there will have to be more consistency in selection in the first third of the pitch if Rovers are to follow in the footsteps of Leicester City, QPR and rivals Burnley and make it back to the Premier League.

“You look at Burnley’s back four and Leicester’s back four and they hardly ever changed,” said Short, who was a key member of the Rovers team which won promotion from the old First Division in 2001.

“It would be nice to get that settled next year as we didn’t really get the opportunity to do that this year. Not just for us as coaches but for the players as well.

“Don’t get me wrong, if you are losing you may have to make changes.

“But I think it’s really important you can maintain it at the back.”

Only captain and centre back Grant Hanley and left Tommy Spurr featured throughout the whole of the 2013-14 campaign.

First-choice goalkeeper Paul Robinson was sidelined until the new year while young right backs Adam Henley and Todd Kane suffered injuries and dips in form.

Rovers also lost Scott Dann, Hanley’s predecessor as skipper, to Crystal Palace on the last day of the January transfer window.

But Short was impressed with the performances Matt Kilgallon produced after taking the place of Dann.

He said: “Matt had to wait his turn but he always knew when he got it he would get his chance and I thought he did very well.

“I think centre halves get better as they get older and I’m sure he’ll have another good season.”

Kilgallon, Hanley and Spurr are set to form three quarters of Rovers’ back four next season.

But with Gary Bowyer choosing not to bring Todd Kane back for another loan spell from Chelsea, a new right back will be required to challenge Henley.

Leeds United’s Lee Peltier has been heavily linked with a move to Rovers.

But, as things stand, it is understood Peltier will not be arriving at Ewood Park.

Rovers boss Bowyer, who is back from a break in Croatia, is on the lookout for a right back who can also cover at centre back.

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9:36am Fri 13 Jun 14

owd nick says...

There's no doubt about it, if you can keep the bulk of a settled team playing for large parts of the season without constantly loosing people to injury you will have a chance of a top 6 spot in any league.

Burnley proved that last season with a team that apart from 3 or 4 decent players and the remainder being workmanlike journeymen they were in or around the top four all season, luck with injuries played a massive part in that. (not knocking their achievement, simply a statement of fact).

The dreadful right back situation at Ewood has been glaringly obvious for some time now, both Hanley and Kane looked shell shocked at times last season.

If we only buy two or three players before the new season begins the defense has to be the focal point, the lack of cover is astonishing and we are more than adequately covered in all other departments now, even if we move some of the 6 on.
There's no doubt about it, if you can keep the bulk of a settled team playing for large parts of the season without constantly loosing people to injury you will have a chance of a top 6 spot in any league. Burnley proved that last season with a team that apart from 3 or 4 decent players and the remainder being workmanlike journeymen they were in or around the top four all season, luck with injuries played a massive part in that. (not knocking their achievement, simply a statement of fact). The dreadful right back situation at Ewood has been glaringly obvious for some time now, both Hanley and Kane looked shell shocked at times last season. If we only buy two or three players before the new season begins the defense has to be the focal point, the lack of cover is astonishing and we are more than adequately covered in all other departments now, even if we move some of the 6 on. owd nick
  • Score: 6

9:55am Fri 13 Jun 14

Crow27 says...

I think we need a versatile RB/CB as I think we may already have the RB solution;
RB - Lowe & Henley
CB - Hanley, Kilgallon, O' Connell
LB - Spurr, Olsson (If we keep him, if not maybe Morris?).
The CM I think should be Cairney and Evans with Williamson and Dunn covering.
I think we need a versatile RB/CB as I think we may already have the RB solution; RB - Lowe & Henley CB - Hanley, Kilgallon, O' Connell LB - Spurr, Olsson (If we keep him, if not maybe Morris?). The CM I think should be Cairney and Evans with Williamson and Dunn covering. Crow27
  • Score: 4

10:03am Fri 13 Jun 14

realisticrover says...

Terry Gennoe,
Jim Branagan, Mick Rathbone, Glen Keeley and Derek Fazackerley
...perfect example!
Terry Gennoe, Jim Branagan, Mick Rathbone, Glen Keeley and Derek Fazackerley ...perfect example! realisticrover
  • Score: 8

10:06am Fri 13 Jun 14

look.up.blackburn. says...

So then, all this talk of a promotion push... but consider for a moment what happens if it doesn't come off?

Let's be brutally honest here, with the widely reported financial issues surrounding Blackburn Rovers, debt's of over £60million, losses of £36.5million, massive contracts to honour, and the need to cut losses by £25million over the next season, the chances of achieving a top six finish are less than slim.

The three sides coming down, Cardiff, Fulham and Norwich will benefit from parachute payments of £60million enabling them to retain the majority of their Premier League squads and add top Championship players where necessary.

I see Cardiff and Fulham as near certainties for automatic promotion, and Norwich, Wigan, Derby, Reading, Watford, Brighton and Nottingham Forest providing a very competitive race for the four play-off spots. Given the momentum carried by Wolves, and the likely resurgence of Bolton, Leeds and Middlesbrough, I really cannot see how you can hope to compete given the cost cutting requirements at Blackburn Rovers.

Added to this is the further £8million deficit from the reduction in your parachute payments and those lingering contracts that could well be the straw that breaks the chickens back when the FFP sanctions are handed out in December.

So let's say you fail to make the grade next season and miss out on the top six, you've managed to sell players of value such as Rhodes, Cairney and possibly Hanley, and thereby cut the loss by £10million which means the transfer ban is upheld as you continue to restructure and reduce the wage bill.

The 2015 season will then see you needing to make a further £10million+ cost saving as you enter your forth season in the top flight with your weakest squad yet and the prospect of your final parachute payment. The maximum permitted FFP loss will at that point be just £3million.

I saw last season as being an all or nothing scenario for Blackburn Rovers to achieve promotion and the prospect of not doing so could now see you slide into League One over the next two seasons. That is simply an honest appraisal of the financial mess that your club is now in.
So then, all this talk of a promotion push... but consider for a moment what happens if it doesn't come off? Let's be brutally honest here, with the widely reported financial issues surrounding Blackburn Rovers, debt's of over £60million, losses of £36.5million, massive contracts to honour, and the need to cut losses by £25million over the next season, the chances of achieving a top six finish are less than slim. The three sides coming down, Cardiff, Fulham and Norwich will benefit from parachute payments of £60million enabling them to retain the majority of their Premier League squads and add top Championship players where necessary. I see Cardiff and Fulham as near certainties for automatic promotion, and Norwich, Wigan, Derby, Reading, Watford, Brighton and Nottingham Forest providing a very competitive race for the four play-off spots. Given the momentum carried by Wolves, and the likely resurgence of Bolton, Leeds and Middlesbrough, I really cannot see how you can hope to compete given the cost cutting requirements at Blackburn Rovers. Added to this is the further £8million deficit from the reduction in your parachute payments and those lingering contracts that could well be the straw that breaks the chickens back when the FFP sanctions are handed out in December. So let's say you fail to make the grade next season and miss out on the top six, you've managed to sell players of value such as Rhodes, Cairney and possibly Hanley, and thereby cut the loss by £10million which means the transfer ban is upheld as you continue to restructure and reduce the wage bill. The 2015 season will then see you needing to make a further £10million+ cost saving as you enter your forth season in the top flight with your weakest squad yet and the prospect of your final parachute payment. The maximum permitted FFP loss will at that point be just £3million. I saw last season as being an all or nothing scenario for Blackburn Rovers to achieve promotion and the prospect of not doing so could now see you slide into League One over the next two seasons. That is simply an honest appraisal of the financial mess that your club is now in. look.up.blackburn.
  • Score: -21

10:06am Fri 13 Jun 14

.Lancs _ Pensioner says...

“It would be nice to get that settled next year"

I think someone at the club should tell Mr Short that the season starts on Saturday 9th August 2014 THIS YEAR.
“It would be nice to get that settled next year" I think someone at the club should tell Mr Short that the season starts on Saturday 9th August 2014 THIS YEAR. .Lancs _ Pensioner
  • Score: -7

10:29am Fri 13 Jun 14

leicesterrover says...

Why do the burnley muppets keep talking about the FFP? From what I can gather we will be hit with a transfer ban in January and a fine if we don't cut costs? So? Get our business done in the summer and we won't need to sign anyone in jan! Why would venkys want to sell Rhodes, cairney, Hanley or anyone else you care to mention? It wouldn't make sense would it you morons, they need us to get back in the prem to make there investment in us worthwhile so keeping our best players is vitally important!
Nobody will be sold, our squad is as strong as anyone else in this league, and certainly stronger after a season together, and as we have seen it's very difficult for a team to be relegated and go straight back up, even QPR struggled with all there cash!
Rovers will go up and unfortunately burnley will get relegated, but at least you can maybe update your stadium a little with the financial boost you will receive!
Keep smiling, I bet you won't be by christmas :-)
Why do the burnley muppets keep talking about the FFP? From what I can gather we will be hit with a transfer ban in January and a fine if we don't cut costs? So? Get our business done in the summer and we won't need to sign anyone in jan! Why would venkys want to sell Rhodes, cairney, Hanley or anyone else you care to mention? It wouldn't make sense would it you morons, they need us to get back in the prem to make there investment in us worthwhile so keeping our best players is vitally important! Nobody will be sold, our squad is as strong as anyone else in this league, and certainly stronger after a season together, and as we have seen it's very difficult for a team to be relegated and go straight back up, even QPR struggled with all there cash! Rovers will go up and unfortunately burnley will get relegated, but at least you can maybe update your stadium a little with the financial boost you will receive! Keep smiling, I bet you won't be by christmas :-) leicesterrover
  • Score: 8

10:39am Fri 13 Jun 14

Old age pensioner says...

look.up.blackburn. wrote:
So then, all this talk of a promotion push... but consider for a moment what happens if it doesn't come off?

Let's be brutally honest here, with the widely reported financial issues surrounding Blackburn Rovers, debt's of over £60million, losses of £36.5million, massive contracts to honour, and the need to cut losses by £25million over the next season, the chances of achieving a top six finish are less than slim.

The three sides coming down, Cardiff, Fulham and Norwich will benefit from parachute payments of £60million enabling them to retain the majority of their Premier League squads and add top Championship players where necessary.

I see Cardiff and Fulham as near certainties for automatic promotion, and Norwich, Wigan, Derby, Reading, Watford, Brighton and Nottingham Forest providing a very competitive race for the four play-off spots. Given the momentum carried by Wolves, and the likely resurgence of Bolton, Leeds and Middlesbrough, I really cannot see how you can hope to compete given the cost cutting requirements at Blackburn Rovers.

Added to this is the further £8million deficit from the reduction in your parachute payments and those lingering contracts that could well be the straw that breaks the chickens back when the FFP sanctions are handed out in December.

So let's say you fail to make the grade next season and miss out on the top six, you've managed to sell players of value such as Rhodes, Cairney and possibly Hanley, and thereby cut the loss by £10million which means the transfer ban is upheld as you continue to restructure and reduce the wage bill.

The 2015 season will then see you needing to make a further £10million+ cost saving as you enter your forth season in the top flight with your weakest squad yet and the prospect of your final parachute payment. The maximum permitted FFP loss will at that point be just £3million.

I saw last season as being an all or nothing scenario for Blackburn Rovers to achieve promotion and the prospect of not doing so could now see you slide into League One over the next two seasons. That is simply an honest appraisal of the financial mess that your club is now in.
NH 2014
[quote][p][bold]look.up.blackburn.[/bold] wrote: So then, all this talk of a promotion push... but consider for a moment what happens if it doesn't come off? Let's be brutally honest here, with the widely reported financial issues surrounding Blackburn Rovers, debt's of over £60million, losses of £36.5million, massive contracts to honour, and the need to cut losses by £25million over the next season, the chances of achieving a top six finish are less than slim. The three sides coming down, Cardiff, Fulham and Norwich will benefit from parachute payments of £60million enabling them to retain the majority of their Premier League squads and add top Championship players where necessary. I see Cardiff and Fulham as near certainties for automatic promotion, and Norwich, Wigan, Derby, Reading, Watford, Brighton and Nottingham Forest providing a very competitive race for the four play-off spots. Given the momentum carried by Wolves, and the likely resurgence of Bolton, Leeds and Middlesbrough, I really cannot see how you can hope to compete given the cost cutting requirements at Blackburn Rovers. Added to this is the further £8million deficit from the reduction in your parachute payments and those lingering contracts that could well be the straw that breaks the chickens back when the FFP sanctions are handed out in December. So let's say you fail to make the grade next season and miss out on the top six, you've managed to sell players of value such as Rhodes, Cairney and possibly Hanley, and thereby cut the loss by £10million which means the transfer ban is upheld as you continue to restructure and reduce the wage bill. The 2015 season will then see you needing to make a further £10million+ cost saving as you enter your forth season in the top flight with your weakest squad yet and the prospect of your final parachute payment. The maximum permitted FFP loss will at that point be just £3million. I saw last season as being an all or nothing scenario for Blackburn Rovers to achieve promotion and the prospect of not doing so could now see you slide into League One over the next two seasons. That is simply an honest appraisal of the financial mess that your club is now in.[/p][/quote]NH 2014 Old age pensioner
  • Score: 2

10:40am Fri 13 Jun 14

Old age pensioner says...

.Lancs _ Pensioner wrote:
“It would be nice to get that settled next year"

I think someone at the club should tell Mr Short that the season starts on Saturday 9th August 2014 THIS YEAR.
Fake NH
[quote][p][bold].Lancs _ Pensioner[/bold] wrote: “It would be nice to get that settled next year" I think someone at the club should tell Mr Short that the season starts on Saturday 9th August 2014 THIS YEAR.[/p][/quote]Fake NH Old age pensioner
  • Score: -1

1:29pm Fri 13 Jun 14

hasslem hasslem says...

look.up.blackburn. wrote:
So then, all this talk of a promotion push... but consider for a moment what happens if it doesn't come off?

Let's be brutally honest here, with the widely reported financial issues surrounding Blackburn Rovers, debt's of over £60million, losses of £36.5million, massive contracts to honour, and the need to cut losses by £25million over the next season, the chances of achieving a top six finish are less than slim.

The three sides coming down, Cardiff, Fulham and Norwich will benefit from parachute payments of £60million enabling them to retain the majority of their Premier League squads and add top Championship players where necessary.

I see Cardiff and Fulham as near certainties for automatic promotion, and Norwich, Wigan, Derby, Reading, Watford, Brighton and Nottingham Forest providing a very competitive race for the four play-off spots. Given the momentum carried by Wolves, and the likely resurgence of Bolton, Leeds and Middlesbrough, I really cannot see how you can hope to compete given the cost cutting requirements at Blackburn Rovers.

Added to this is the further £8million deficit from the reduction in your parachute payments and those lingering contracts that could well be the straw that breaks the chickens back when the FFP sanctions are handed out in December.

So let's say you fail to make the grade next season and miss out on the top six, you've managed to sell players of value such as Rhodes, Cairney and possibly Hanley, and thereby cut the loss by £10million which means the transfer ban is upheld as you continue to restructure and reduce the wage bill.

The 2015 season will then see you needing to make a further £10million+ cost saving as you enter your forth season in the top flight with your weakest squad yet and the prospect of your final parachute payment. The maximum permitted FFP loss will at that point be just £3million.

I saw last season as being an all or nothing scenario for Blackburn Rovers to achieve promotion and the prospect of not doing so could now see you slide into League One over the next two seasons. That is simply an honest appraisal of the financial mess that your club is now in.
igonoring the fact that you are a total idiot let's look at your analysis (anal is the correct description of general direction of where it has come from)

so just that i understand - there are no FFP impact on circa £100m debt wigan, over £150m debt fulham and £150m debt bolton - oh and leeds don't they have one or two financial issues.

why do you think that cardiff are virtually automatic promotion - their malaysian bloke makes our malaysian bloke look like bill gates. their manager resembles a rabbit trapped in headlights. norwich have plenty of financial issues of their own and a rubbish side.

reading have major ownership issues and are beginning to look like pompey with various transfers in ownnership - i know forest fans and they are predicting carnage at their place. equally brighton's off the field status is all over the shop. watford's ownership is volatile to put it mildly and why do you think they are better placed than rovers.

wolves? behave - no squad for this division
dunno about boro - so in your assessment only derby seem to me to be well equipped on and off the field to make a good stab at it.
[quote][p][bold]look.up.blackburn.[/bold] wrote: So then, all this talk of a promotion push... but consider for a moment what happens if it doesn't come off? Let's be brutally honest here, with the widely reported financial issues surrounding Blackburn Rovers, debt's of over £60million, losses of £36.5million, massive contracts to honour, and the need to cut losses by £25million over the next season, the chances of achieving a top six finish are less than slim. The three sides coming down, Cardiff, Fulham and Norwich will benefit from parachute payments of £60million enabling them to retain the majority of their Premier League squads and add top Championship players where necessary. I see Cardiff and Fulham as near certainties for automatic promotion, and Norwich, Wigan, Derby, Reading, Watford, Brighton and Nottingham Forest providing a very competitive race for the four play-off spots. Given the momentum carried by Wolves, and the likely resurgence of Bolton, Leeds and Middlesbrough, I really cannot see how you can hope to compete given the cost cutting requirements at Blackburn Rovers. Added to this is the further £8million deficit from the reduction in your parachute payments and those lingering contracts that could well be the straw that breaks the chickens back when the FFP sanctions are handed out in December. So let's say you fail to make the grade next season and miss out on the top six, you've managed to sell players of value such as Rhodes, Cairney and possibly Hanley, and thereby cut the loss by £10million which means the transfer ban is upheld as you continue to restructure and reduce the wage bill. The 2015 season will then see you needing to make a further £10million+ cost saving as you enter your forth season in the top flight with your weakest squad yet and the prospect of your final parachute payment. The maximum permitted FFP loss will at that point be just £3million. I saw last season as being an all or nothing scenario for Blackburn Rovers to achieve promotion and the prospect of not doing so could now see you slide into League One over the next two seasons. That is simply an honest appraisal of the financial mess that your club is now in.[/p][/quote]igonoring the fact that you are a total idiot let's look at your analysis (anal is the correct description of general direction of where it has come from) so just that i understand - there are no FFP impact on circa £100m debt wigan, over £150m debt fulham and £150m debt bolton - oh and leeds don't they have one or two financial issues. why do you think that cardiff are virtually automatic promotion - their malaysian bloke makes our malaysian bloke look like bill gates. their manager resembles a rabbit trapped in headlights. norwich have plenty of financial issues of their own and a rubbish side. reading have major ownership issues and are beginning to look like pompey with various transfers in ownnership - i know forest fans and they are predicting carnage at their place. equally brighton's off the field status is all over the shop. watford's ownership is volatile to put it mildly and why do you think they are better placed than rovers. wolves? behave - no squad for this division dunno about boro - so in your assessment only derby seem to me to be well equipped on and off the field to make a good stab at it. hasslem hasslem
  • Score: -2

1:31pm Fri 13 Jun 14

John Leigh says...

All this talk of other clubs being in a better financial position, having a stronger squad or having 'momentum' are 100% valid. However football doesn't work like that does it? If it was that straightforward Bumley wouldn't have got promoted.
All this talk of other clubs being in a better financial position, having a stronger squad or having 'momentum' are 100% valid. However football doesn't work like that does it? If it was that straightforward Bumley wouldn't have got promoted. John Leigh
  • Score: 7

1:32pm Fri 13 Jun 14

roverstid says...

These comments are just getting childish. Its not banter anymore its just six fingers, FFP, sister jokes fake id churlishnes.

This season is going to be an interesting one mainly with the eye on Bowyer and how much he's matured in his role.

We need a settled back four and we're going to struggle unless we get it sorted soon or else it will be business as usual this season with the same old could have been arguments.
These comments are just getting childish. Its not banter anymore its just six fingers, FFP, sister jokes fake id churlishnes. This season is going to be an interesting one mainly with the eye on Bowyer and how much he's matured in his role. We need a settled back four and we're going to struggle unless we get it sorted soon or else it will be business as usual this season with the same old could have been arguments. roverstid
  • Score: 0

1:46pm Fri 13 Jun 14

Harwoodstblue says...

hasslem hasslem wrote:
look.up.blackburn. wrote:
So then, all this talk of a promotion push... but consider for a moment what happens if it doesn't come off?

Let's be brutally honest here, with the widely reported financial issues surrounding Blackburn Rovers, debt's of over £60million, losses of £36.5million, massive contracts to honour, and the need to cut losses by £25million over the next season, the chances of achieving a top six finish are less than slim.

The three sides coming down, Cardiff, Fulham and Norwich will benefit from parachute payments of £60million enabling them to retain the majority of their Premier League squads and add top Championship players where necessary.

I see Cardiff and Fulham as near certainties for automatic promotion, and Norwich, Wigan, Derby, Reading, Watford, Brighton and Nottingham Forest providing a very competitive race for the four play-off spots. Given the momentum carried by Wolves, and the likely resurgence of Bolton, Leeds and Middlesbrough, I really cannot see how you can hope to compete given the cost cutting requirements at Blackburn Rovers.

Added to this is the further £8million deficit from the reduction in your parachute payments and those lingering contracts that could well be the straw that breaks the chickens back when the FFP sanctions are handed out in December.

So let's say you fail to make the grade next season and miss out on the top six, you've managed to sell players of value such as Rhodes, Cairney and possibly Hanley, and thereby cut the loss by £10million which means the transfer ban is upheld as you continue to restructure and reduce the wage bill.

The 2015 season will then see you needing to make a further £10million+ cost saving as you enter your forth season in the top flight with your weakest squad yet and the prospect of your final parachute payment. The maximum permitted FFP loss will at that point be just £3million.

I saw last season as being an all or nothing scenario for Blackburn Rovers to achieve promotion and the prospect of not doing so could now see you slide into League One over the next two seasons. That is simply an honest appraisal of the financial mess that your club is now in.
igonoring the fact that you are a total idiot let's look at your analysis (anal is the correct description of general direction of where it has come from)

so just that i understand - there are no FFP impact on circa £100m debt wigan, over £150m debt fulham and £150m debt bolton - oh and leeds don't they have one or two financial issues.

why do you think that cardiff are virtually automatic promotion - their malaysian bloke makes our malaysian bloke look like bill gates. their manager resembles a rabbit trapped in headlights. norwich have plenty of financial issues of their own and a rubbish side.

reading have major ownership issues and are beginning to look like pompey with various transfers in ownnership - i know forest fans and they are predicting carnage at their place. equally brighton's off the field status is all over the shop. watford's ownership is volatile to put it mildly and why do you think they are better placed than rovers.

wolves? behave - no squad for this division
dunno about boro - so in your assessment only derby seem to me to be well equipped on and off the field to make a good stab at it.
Well spotted where thr drivrl came from. He's always talked a load of sh!te and his analysis is no different.
[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]look.up.blackburn.[/bold] wrote: So then, all this talk of a promotion push... but consider for a moment what happens if it doesn't come off? Let's be brutally honest here, with the widely reported financial issues surrounding Blackburn Rovers, debt's of over £60million, losses of £36.5million, massive contracts to honour, and the need to cut losses by £25million over the next season, the chances of achieving a top six finish are less than slim. The three sides coming down, Cardiff, Fulham and Norwich will benefit from parachute payments of £60million enabling them to retain the majority of their Premier League squads and add top Championship players where necessary. I see Cardiff and Fulham as near certainties for automatic promotion, and Norwich, Wigan, Derby, Reading, Watford, Brighton and Nottingham Forest providing a very competitive race for the four play-off spots. Given the momentum carried by Wolves, and the likely resurgence of Bolton, Leeds and Middlesbrough, I really cannot see how you can hope to compete given the cost cutting requirements at Blackburn Rovers. Added to this is the further £8million deficit from the reduction in your parachute payments and those lingering contracts that could well be the straw that breaks the chickens back when the FFP sanctions are handed out in December. So let's say you fail to make the grade next season and miss out on the top six, you've managed to sell players of value such as Rhodes, Cairney and possibly Hanley, and thereby cut the loss by £10million which means the transfer ban is upheld as you continue to restructure and reduce the wage bill. The 2015 season will then see you needing to make a further £10million+ cost saving as you enter your forth season in the top flight with your weakest squad yet and the prospect of your final parachute payment. The maximum permitted FFP loss will at that point be just £3million. I saw last season as being an all or nothing scenario for Blackburn Rovers to achieve promotion and the prospect of not doing so could now see you slide into League One over the next two seasons. That is simply an honest appraisal of the financial mess that your club is now in.[/p][/quote]igonoring the fact that you are a total idiot let's look at your analysis (anal is the correct description of general direction of where it has come from) so just that i understand - there are no FFP impact on circa £100m debt wigan, over £150m debt fulham and £150m debt bolton - oh and leeds don't they have one or two financial issues. why do you think that cardiff are virtually automatic promotion - their malaysian bloke makes our malaysian bloke look like bill gates. their manager resembles a rabbit trapped in headlights. norwich have plenty of financial issues of their own and a rubbish side. reading have major ownership issues and are beginning to look like pompey with various transfers in ownnership - i know forest fans and they are predicting carnage at their place. equally brighton's off the field status is all over the shop. watford's ownership is volatile to put it mildly and why do you think they are better placed than rovers. wolves? behave - no squad for this division dunno about boro - so in your assessment only derby seem to me to be well equipped on and off the field to make a good stab at it.[/p][/quote]Well spotted where thr drivrl came from. He's always talked a load of sh!te and his analysis is no different. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: -3

4:31pm Fri 13 Jun 14

J.C - Rishton says...

leicesterrover wrote:
Why do the burnley muppets keep talking about the FFP? From what I can gather we will be hit with a transfer ban in January and a fine if we don't cut costs? So? Get our business done in the summer and we won't need to sign anyone in jan! Why would venkys want to sell Rhodes, cairney, Hanley or anyone else you care to mention? It wouldn't make sense would it you morons, they need us to get back in the prem to make there investment in us worthwhile so keeping our best players is vitally important!
Nobody will be sold, our squad is as strong as anyone else in this league, and certainly stronger after a season together, and as we have seen it's very difficult for a team to be relegated and go straight back up, even QPR struggled with all there cash!
Rovers will go up and unfortunately burnley will get relegated, but at least you can maybe update your stadium a little with the financial boost you will receive!
Keep smiling, I bet you won't be by christmas :-)
No you obviously don't understand the transfer embargo (and its potential impact) on the club at all - If we are put into it on the 1st Jan 2015 then we WILL have to sell players (in effect we will no choice in the matter) - if we've spent even more money this summer then we will be even further from complying with FFP and will have to remain IN a transfer embargo even longer and sell even more players (cut more costs) until we comply - and that will mean selling our best players at reduced prices.

Also, why would our best players want to remain at a club in a transfer embargo? - Ambitious players will see a transfer ban as a massive milestone around a clubs neck and would see it as chance to move to another club (cheaply). Remember these players are not at the club because they love it - they are at the club to earn money and progress in the game as high up as they can. A transfer ban would surely trigger most "good" players at that club to be in demand from other clubs and therefore a good chance that they could engineer a move and get a pay rise.

Don't kid yourself - if Rovers (or any other club) is put into a transfer ban then it would be a disaster – it must be avoided at all costs (even if this means selling our best player(s) this summer (as unpalatable as this maybe).

How come it only seems to be Rovers fans that don't understand how the FFP and the transfer ban will work - every fan I talk to of other championship clubs understand this perfectly.
[quote][p][bold]leicesterrover[/bold] wrote: Why do the burnley muppets keep talking about the FFP? From what I can gather we will be hit with a transfer ban in January and a fine if we don't cut costs? So? Get our business done in the summer and we won't need to sign anyone in jan! Why would venkys want to sell Rhodes, cairney, Hanley or anyone else you care to mention? It wouldn't make sense would it you morons, they need us to get back in the prem to make there investment in us worthwhile so keeping our best players is vitally important! Nobody will be sold, our squad is as strong as anyone else in this league, and certainly stronger after a season together, and as we have seen it's very difficult for a team to be relegated and go straight back up, even QPR struggled with all there cash! Rovers will go up and unfortunately burnley will get relegated, but at least you can maybe update your stadium a little with the financial boost you will receive! Keep smiling, I bet you won't be by christmas :-)[/p][/quote]No you obviously don't understand the transfer embargo (and its potential impact) on the club at all - If we are put into it on the 1st Jan 2015 then we WILL have to sell players (in effect we will no choice in the matter) - if we've spent even more money this summer then we will be even further from complying with FFP and will have to remain IN a transfer embargo even longer and sell even more players (cut more costs) until we comply - and that will mean selling our best players at reduced prices. Also, why would our best players want to remain at a club in a transfer embargo? - Ambitious players will see a transfer ban as a massive milestone around a clubs neck and would see it as chance to move to another club (cheaply). Remember these players are not at the club because they love it - they are at the club to earn money and progress in the game as high up as they can. A transfer ban would surely trigger most "good" players at that club to be in demand from other clubs and therefore a good chance that they could engineer a move and get a pay rise. Don't kid yourself - if Rovers (or any other club) is put into a transfer ban then it would be a disaster – it must be avoided at all costs (even if this means selling our best player(s) this summer (as unpalatable as this maybe). How come it only seems to be Rovers fans that don't understand how the FFP and the transfer ban will work - every fan I talk to of other championship clubs understand this perfectly. J.C - Rishton
  • Score: 9

5:03pm Fri 13 Jun 14

Richard Oakley says...

It's not just being in a transfer embargo that hurts a club, which cannot recruit payers to replace those who don't sign new deals on the expiry of their contracts or knowing they have the club over a barrel negotiate large payrises. Along with a transfer embargo comes a multi million pound fine. It's one of those things that hasn't been thought through and that is whether or not losses that arise because of paying off the fines are ignored when calculating compliance with FFP rules in succeeding years. If they are, a club is not forced to sell players. If it does not, clubs will have to sell.

For Rovers the figures that will determine FFP compliance or not are the accounts for the period ending 30 June 2014. When your MD has already told everyone the Club won't be in compliance, that puts Blackburn Rovers at a disadvantage when selling players.
It's not just being in a transfer embargo that hurts a club, which cannot recruit payers to replace those who don't sign new deals on the expiry of their contracts or knowing they have the club over a barrel negotiate large payrises. Along with a transfer embargo comes a multi million pound fine. It's one of those things that hasn't been thought through and that is whether or not losses that arise because of paying off the fines are ignored when calculating compliance with FFP rules in succeeding years. If they are, a club is not forced to sell players. If it does not, clubs will have to sell. For Rovers the figures that will determine FFP compliance or not are the accounts for the period ending 30 June 2014. When your MD has already told everyone the Club won't be in compliance, that puts Blackburn Rovers at a disadvantage when selling players. Richard Oakley
  • Score: 4

6:04pm Fri 13 Jun 14

Super Claret says...

Oh dear, look like some of you no-dads don't understand the implications of FFP at all.

The transfer embargo is neither here nor there, it is simply a sanction put in place to ensure that action is taken. In your particular case the necessary action is to REDUCE YOUR LOSSES in line with the rules, not simply serve the transfer ban and then carry on as before!

Until your losses are reduced to within the limits the transfer ban will remain in place, and as such you will be forced to accept fee's of below market value for your key players. Your losses for the last accounting period were £36.5million with a 136.1% wages to turnover ratio, a completely unsustainable and precarious position to be in.

It's not a case of selling Rhodes if you feel like it, you have to sell to reduce the wage bill. The transfer fee received will then go straight in Venky's pocket to balance the additional £8million deficit from the reduction in parachute payments.

The level of intellect from the no-dads these days is simply embarrassing.

Your club is now being forced to comply as you have broken the rules that other clubs have adjusted to over the last 2 seasons.

The savings you will have to make will be upwards of £25million given your horrific wage bill. This is not a quick fix, and regardless of all the PR talk about new contracts and signing players you will not be able to spend a penny on transfer fee's or contract renewals without paying the price.

You will realise this all soon enough.
Oh dear, look like some of you no-dads don't understand the implications of FFP at all. The transfer embargo is neither here nor there, it is simply a sanction put in place to ensure that action is taken. In your particular case the necessary action is to REDUCE YOUR LOSSES in line with the rules, not simply serve the transfer ban and then carry on as before! Until your losses are reduced to within the limits the transfer ban will remain in place, and as such you will be forced to accept fee's of below market value for your key players. Your losses for the last accounting period were £36.5million with a 136.1% wages to turnover ratio, a completely unsustainable and precarious position to be in. It's not a case of selling Rhodes if you feel like it, you have to sell to reduce the wage bill. The transfer fee received will then go straight in Venky's pocket to balance the additional £8million deficit from the reduction in parachute payments. The level of intellect from the no-dads these days is simply embarrassing. Your club is now being forced to comply as you have broken the rules that other clubs have adjusted to over the last 2 seasons. The savings you will have to make will be upwards of £25million given your horrific wage bill. This is not a quick fix, and regardless of all the PR talk about new contracts and signing players you will not be able to spend a penny on transfer fee's or contract renewals without paying the price. You will realise this all soon enough. Super Claret
  • Score: 2

6:49pm Fri 13 Jun 14

J.C - Rishton says...

hasslem hasslem wrote:
look.up.blackburn. wrote:
So then, all this talk of a promotion push... but consider for a moment what happens if it doesn't come off?

Let's be brutally honest here, with the widely reported financial issues surrounding Blackburn Rovers, debt's of over £60million, losses of £36.5million, massive contracts to honour, and the need to cut losses by £25million over the next season, the chances of achieving a top six finish are less than slim.

The three sides coming down, Cardiff, Fulham and Norwich will benefit from parachute payments of £60million enabling them to retain the majority of their Premier League squads and add top Championship players where necessary.

I see Cardiff and Fulham as near certainties for automatic promotion, and Norwich, Wigan, Derby, Reading, Watford, Brighton and Nottingham Forest providing a very competitive race for the four play-off spots. Given the momentum carried by Wolves, and the likely resurgence of Bolton, Leeds and Middlesbrough, I really cannot see how you can hope to compete given the cost cutting requirements at Blackburn Rovers.

Added to this is the further £8million deficit from the reduction in your parachute payments and those lingering contracts that could well be the straw that breaks the chickens back when the FFP sanctions are handed out in December.

So let's say you fail to make the grade next season and miss out on the top six, you've managed to sell players of value such as Rhodes, Cairney and possibly Hanley, and thereby cut the loss by £10million which means the transfer ban is upheld as you continue to restructure and reduce the wage bill.

The 2015 season will then see you needing to make a further £10million+ cost saving as you enter your forth season in the top flight with your weakest squad yet and the prospect of your final parachute payment. The maximum permitted FFP loss will at that point be just £3million.

I saw last season as being an all or nothing scenario for Blackburn Rovers to achieve promotion and the prospect of not doing so could now see you slide into League One over the next two seasons. That is simply an honest appraisal of the financial mess that your club is now in.
igonoring the fact that you are a total idiot let's look at your analysis (anal is the correct description of general direction of where it has come from)

so just that i understand - there are no FFP impact on circa £100m debt wigan, over £150m debt fulham and £150m debt bolton - oh and leeds don't they have one or two financial issues.

why do you think that cardiff are virtually automatic promotion - their malaysian bloke makes our malaysian bloke look like bill gates. their manager resembles a rabbit trapped in headlights. norwich have plenty of financial issues of their own and a rubbish side.

reading have major ownership issues and are beginning to look like pompey with various transfers in ownnership - i know forest fans and they are predicting carnage at their place. equally brighton's off the field status is all over the shop. watford's ownership is volatile to put it mildly and why do you think they are better placed than rovers.

wolves? behave - no squad for this division
dunno about boro - so in your assessment only derby seem to me to be well equipped on and off the field to make a good stab at it.
Haslam, ffs !! - NO, there is NO sanction against a clubs debt.

FFP is interested ONLY on the clubs annual lossess for its previous season.

You can have zero debt but lost £20m last season and you will have fallen outside FFP. Likewize you could have a billion pounds of debt but last season broke even so you won't have broken the FFP rules.

When are the majority of my fellow Rovers fans going to take 15 mins to learn about the forthcoming FFP rules (the ignorance surrounding FFP shown by most Rovers fans on here is frankly embarassing) - something that could have massive impact on our great club in the very near future and something the club, right NOW must be making really TOUGH financial footballing decisions (and I'm not just talking about trying to sell 5 over priced flops and 1 potencial jail bird).
[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]look.up.blackburn.[/bold] wrote: So then, all this talk of a promotion push... but consider for a moment what happens if it doesn't come off? Let's be brutally honest here, with the widely reported financial issues surrounding Blackburn Rovers, debt's of over £60million, losses of £36.5million, massive contracts to honour, and the need to cut losses by £25million over the next season, the chances of achieving a top six finish are less than slim. The three sides coming down, Cardiff, Fulham and Norwich will benefit from parachute payments of £60million enabling them to retain the majority of their Premier League squads and add top Championship players where necessary. I see Cardiff and Fulham as near certainties for automatic promotion, and Norwich, Wigan, Derby, Reading, Watford, Brighton and Nottingham Forest providing a very competitive race for the four play-off spots. Given the momentum carried by Wolves, and the likely resurgence of Bolton, Leeds and Middlesbrough, I really cannot see how you can hope to compete given the cost cutting requirements at Blackburn Rovers. Added to this is the further £8million deficit from the reduction in your parachute payments and those lingering contracts that could well be the straw that breaks the chickens back when the FFP sanctions are handed out in December. So let's say you fail to make the grade next season and miss out on the top six, you've managed to sell players of value such as Rhodes, Cairney and possibly Hanley, and thereby cut the loss by £10million which means the transfer ban is upheld as you continue to restructure and reduce the wage bill. The 2015 season will then see you needing to make a further £10million+ cost saving as you enter your forth season in the top flight with your weakest squad yet and the prospect of your final parachute payment. The maximum permitted FFP loss will at that point be just £3million. I saw last season as being an all or nothing scenario for Blackburn Rovers to achieve promotion and the prospect of not doing so could now see you slide into League One over the next two seasons. That is simply an honest appraisal of the financial mess that your club is now in.[/p][/quote]igonoring the fact that you are a total idiot let's look at your analysis (anal is the correct description of general direction of where it has come from) so just that i understand - there are no FFP impact on circa £100m debt wigan, over £150m debt fulham and £150m debt bolton - oh and leeds don't they have one or two financial issues. why do you think that cardiff are virtually automatic promotion - their malaysian bloke makes our malaysian bloke look like bill gates. their manager resembles a rabbit trapped in headlights. norwich have plenty of financial issues of their own and a rubbish side. reading have major ownership issues and are beginning to look like pompey with various transfers in ownnership - i know forest fans and they are predicting carnage at their place. equally brighton's off the field status is all over the shop. watford's ownership is volatile to put it mildly and why do you think they are better placed than rovers. wolves? behave - no squad for this division dunno about boro - so in your assessment only derby seem to me to be well equipped on and off the field to make a good stab at it.[/p][/quote]Haslam, ffs !! - NO, there is NO sanction against a clubs debt. FFP is interested ONLY on the clubs annual lossess for its previous season. You can have zero debt but lost £20m last season and you will have fallen outside FFP. Likewize you could have a billion pounds of debt but last season broke even so you won't have broken the FFP rules. When are the majority of my fellow Rovers fans going to take 15 mins to learn about the forthcoming FFP rules (the ignorance surrounding FFP shown by most Rovers fans on here is frankly embarassing) - something that could have massive impact on our great club in the very near future and something the club, right NOW must be making really TOUGH financial footballing decisions (and I'm not just talking about trying to sell 5 over priced flops and 1 potencial jail bird). J.C - Rishton
  • Score: 7

10:13pm Fri 13 Jun 14

digitusjonfred says...

realisticrover wrote:
Terry Gennoe,
Jim Branagan, Mick Rathbone, Glen Keeley and Derek Fazackerley
...perfect example!
Now there,s my boys !!
[quote][p][bold]realisticrover[/bold] wrote: Terry Gennoe, Jim Branagan, Mick Rathbone, Glen Keeley and Derek Fazackerley ...perfect example![/p][/quote]Now there,s my boys !! digitusjonfred
  • Score: 1

10:15pm Fri 13 Jun 14

digitusjonfred says...

look.up.blackburn. wrote:
So then, all this talk of a promotion push... but consider for a moment what happens if it doesn't come off?

Let's be brutally honest here, with the widely reported financial issues surrounding Blackburn Rovers, debt's of over £60million, losses of £36.5million, massive contracts to honour, and the need to cut losses by £25million over the next season, the chances of achieving a top six finish are less than slim.

The three sides coming down, Cardiff, Fulham and Norwich will benefit from parachute payments of £60million enabling them to retain the majority of their Premier League squads and add top Championship players where necessary.

I see Cardiff and Fulham as near certainties for automatic promotion, and Norwich, Wigan, Derby, Reading, Watford, Brighton and Nottingham Forest providing a very competitive race for the four play-off spots. Given the momentum carried by Wolves, and the likely resurgence of Bolton, Leeds and Middlesbrough, I really cannot see how you can hope to compete given the cost cutting requirements at Blackburn Rovers.

Added to this is the further £8million deficit from the reduction in your parachute payments and those lingering contracts that could well be the straw that breaks the chickens back when the FFP sanctions are handed out in December.

So let's say you fail to make the grade next season and miss out on the top six, you've managed to sell players of value such as Rhodes, Cairney and possibly Hanley, and thereby cut the loss by £10million which means the transfer ban is upheld as you continue to restructure and reduce the wage bill.

The 2015 season will then see you needing to make a further £10million+ cost saving as you enter your forth season in the top flight with your weakest squad yet and the prospect of your final parachute payment. The maximum permitted FFP loss will at that point be just £3million.

I saw last season as being an all or nothing scenario for Blackburn Rovers to achieve promotion and the prospect of not doing so could now see you slide into League One over the next two seasons. That is simply an honest appraisal of the financial mess that your club is now in.
Bolton and Leeds ?? what you smoking ??
[quote][p][bold]look.up.blackburn.[/bold] wrote: So then, all this talk of a promotion push... but consider for a moment what happens if it doesn't come off? Let's be brutally honest here, with the widely reported financial issues surrounding Blackburn Rovers, debt's of over £60million, losses of £36.5million, massive contracts to honour, and the need to cut losses by £25million over the next season, the chances of achieving a top six finish are less than slim. The three sides coming down, Cardiff, Fulham and Norwich will benefit from parachute payments of £60million enabling them to retain the majority of their Premier League squads and add top Championship players where necessary. I see Cardiff and Fulham as near certainties for automatic promotion, and Norwich, Wigan, Derby, Reading, Watford, Brighton and Nottingham Forest providing a very competitive race for the four play-off spots. Given the momentum carried by Wolves, and the likely resurgence of Bolton, Leeds and Middlesbrough, I really cannot see how you can hope to compete given the cost cutting requirements at Blackburn Rovers. Added to this is the further £8million deficit from the reduction in your parachute payments and those lingering contracts that could well be the straw that breaks the chickens back when the FFP sanctions are handed out in December. So let's say you fail to make the grade next season and miss out on the top six, you've managed to sell players of value such as Rhodes, Cairney and possibly Hanley, and thereby cut the loss by £10million which means the transfer ban is upheld as you continue to restructure and reduce the wage bill. The 2015 season will then see you needing to make a further £10million+ cost saving as you enter your forth season in the top flight with your weakest squad yet and the prospect of your final parachute payment. The maximum permitted FFP loss will at that point be just £3million. I saw last season as being an all or nothing scenario for Blackburn Rovers to achieve promotion and the prospect of not doing so could now see you slide into League One over the next two seasons. That is simply an honest appraisal of the financial mess that your club is now in.[/p][/quote]Bolton and Leeds ?? what you smoking ?? digitusjonfred
  • Score: 1

10:22pm Fri 13 Jun 14

digitusjonfred says...

Super Claret wrote:
Oh dear, look like some of you no-dads don't understand the implications of FFP at all.

The transfer embargo is neither here nor there, it is simply a sanction put in place to ensure that action is taken. In your particular case the necessary action is to REDUCE YOUR LOSSES in line with the rules, not simply serve the transfer ban and then carry on as before!

Until your losses are reduced to within the limits the transfer ban will remain in place, and as such you will be forced to accept fee's of below market value for your key players. Your losses for the last accounting period were £36.5million with a 136.1% wages to turnover ratio, a completely unsustainable and precarious position to be in.

It's not a case of selling Rhodes if you feel like it, you have to sell to reduce the wage bill. The transfer fee received will then go straight in Venky's pocket to balance the additional £8million deficit from the reduction in parachute payments.

The level of intellect from the no-dads these days is simply embarrassing.

Your club is now being forced to comply as you have broken the rules that other clubs have adjusted to over the last 2 seasons.

The savings you will have to make will be upwards of £25million given your horrific wage bill. This is not a quick fix, and regardless of all the PR talk about new contracts and signing players you will not be able to spend a penny on transfer fee's or contract renewals without paying the price.

You will realise this all soon enough.
First sense you have ever written !!
[quote][p][bold]Super Claret[/bold] wrote: Oh dear, look like some of you no-dads don't understand the implications of FFP at all. The transfer embargo is neither here nor there, it is simply a sanction put in place to ensure that action is taken. In your particular case the necessary action is to REDUCE YOUR LOSSES in line with the rules, not simply serve the transfer ban and then carry on as before! Until your losses are reduced to within the limits the transfer ban will remain in place, and as such you will be forced to accept fee's of below market value for your key players. Your losses for the last accounting period were £36.5million with a 136.1% wages to turnover ratio, a completely unsustainable and precarious position to be in. It's not a case of selling Rhodes if you feel like it, you have to sell to reduce the wage bill. The transfer fee received will then go straight in Venky's pocket to balance the additional £8million deficit from the reduction in parachute payments. The level of intellect from the no-dads these days is simply embarrassing. Your club is now being forced to comply as you have broken the rules that other clubs have adjusted to over the last 2 seasons. The savings you will have to make will be upwards of £25million given your horrific wage bill. This is not a quick fix, and regardless of all the PR talk about new contracts and signing players you will not be able to spend a penny on transfer fee's or contract renewals without paying the price. You will realise this all soon enough.[/p][/quote]First sense you have ever written !! digitusjonfred
  • Score: 0

11:32pm Fri 13 Jun 14

flowersorseaman? says...

J.C - Rishton wrote:
leicesterrover wrote:
Why do the burnley muppets keep talking about the FFP? From what I can gather we will be hit with a transfer ban in January and a fine if we don't cut costs? So? Get our business done in the summer and we won't need to sign anyone in jan! Why would venkys want to sell Rhodes, cairney, Hanley or anyone else you care to mention? It wouldn't make sense would it you morons, they need us to get back in the prem to make there investment in us worthwhile so keeping our best players is vitally important!
Nobody will be sold, our squad is as strong as anyone else in this league, and certainly stronger after a season together, and as we have seen it's very difficult for a team to be relegated and go straight back up, even QPR struggled with all there cash!
Rovers will go up and unfortunately burnley will get relegated, but at least you can maybe update your stadium a little with the financial boost you will receive!
Keep smiling, I bet you won't be by christmas :-)
No you obviously don't understand the transfer embargo (and its potential impact) on the club at all - If we are put into it on the 1st Jan 2015 then we WILL have to sell players (in effect we will no choice in the matter) - if we've spent even more money this summer then we will be even further from complying with FFP and will have to remain IN a transfer embargo even longer and sell even more players (cut more costs) until we comply - and that will mean selling our best players at reduced prices.

Also, why would our best players want to remain at a club in a transfer embargo? - Ambitious players will see a transfer ban as a massive milestone around a clubs neck and would see it as chance to move to another club (cheaply). Remember these players are not at the club because they love it - they are at the club to earn money and progress in the game as high up as they can. A transfer ban would surely trigger most "good" players at that club to be in demand from other clubs and therefore a good chance that they could engineer a move and get a pay rise.

Don't kid yourself - if Rovers (or any other club) is put into a transfer ban then it would be a disaster – it must be avoided at all costs (even if this means selling our best player(s) this summer (as unpalatable as this maybe).

How come it only seems to be Rovers fans that don't understand how the FFP and the transfer ban will work - every fan I talk to of other championship clubs understand this perfectly.
The only player your sweepingly generalised argument applies to is JR. The clubs coming down along with the better sides in the Championship will all generate significant annual losses, that are subsidised by cash injections from the owners, none are getting 60k home crowds. So let's say the FFP rules do go ahead (as is) then most of the clubs you mention will be affected in one way or another, so will have their own headaches with recruitment. Granted this does leave our players open to be poached by PL clubs, but to my knowledge if they'd come calling then the player's would already be gone, (Scott Dann) or would be going whether a transfer ban is in place or not. JR being the only highly valued player we have is really the only one we'd possibly lose out on and perhaps have to take considerably less than market value for. Like £8-10m. From the owners perspective, if we get promoted they'll happily pay the fine circa £20m as it may be and if not we've a decent young squad, so a transfer ban along with 10 other Champ clubs that will be in a similar boat, might not be the doom and gloom you're predicting.
[quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]leicesterrover[/bold] wrote: Why do the burnley muppets keep talking about the FFP? From what I can gather we will be hit with a transfer ban in January and a fine if we don't cut costs? So? Get our business done in the summer and we won't need to sign anyone in jan! Why would venkys want to sell Rhodes, cairney, Hanley or anyone else you care to mention? It wouldn't make sense would it you morons, they need us to get back in the prem to make there investment in us worthwhile so keeping our best players is vitally important! Nobody will be sold, our squad is as strong as anyone else in this league, and certainly stronger after a season together, and as we have seen it's very difficult for a team to be relegated and go straight back up, even QPR struggled with all there cash! Rovers will go up and unfortunately burnley will get relegated, but at least you can maybe update your stadium a little with the financial boost you will receive! Keep smiling, I bet you won't be by christmas :-)[/p][/quote]No you obviously don't understand the transfer embargo (and its potential impact) on the club at all - If we are put into it on the 1st Jan 2015 then we WILL have to sell players (in effect we will no choice in the matter) - if we've spent even more money this summer then we will be even further from complying with FFP and will have to remain IN a transfer embargo even longer and sell even more players (cut more costs) until we comply - and that will mean selling our best players at reduced prices. Also, why would our best players want to remain at a club in a transfer embargo? - Ambitious players will see a transfer ban as a massive milestone around a clubs neck and would see it as chance to move to another club (cheaply). Remember these players are not at the club because they love it - they are at the club to earn money and progress in the game as high up as they can. A transfer ban would surely trigger most "good" players at that club to be in demand from other clubs and therefore a good chance that they could engineer a move and get a pay rise. Don't kid yourself - if Rovers (or any other club) is put into a transfer ban then it would be a disaster – it must be avoided at all costs (even if this means selling our best player(s) this summer (as unpalatable as this maybe). How come it only seems to be Rovers fans that don't understand how the FFP and the transfer ban will work - every fan I talk to of other championship clubs understand this perfectly.[/p][/quote]The only player your sweepingly generalised argument applies to is JR. The clubs coming down along with the better sides in the Championship will all generate significant annual losses, that are subsidised by cash injections from the owners, none are getting 60k home crowds. So let's say the FFP rules do go ahead (as is) then most of the clubs you mention will be affected in one way or another, so will have their own headaches with recruitment. Granted this does leave our players open to be poached by PL clubs, but to my knowledge if they'd come calling then the player's would already be gone, (Scott Dann) or would be going whether a transfer ban is in place or not. JR being the only highly valued player we have is really the only one we'd possibly lose out on and perhaps have to take considerably less than market value for. Like £8-10m. From the owners perspective, if we get promoted they'll happily pay the fine circa £20m as it may be and if not we've a decent young squad, so a transfer ban along with 10 other Champ clubs that will be in a similar boat, might not be the doom and gloom you're predicting. flowersorseaman?
  • Score: 1

7:13pm Sat 14 Jun 14

jogalot says...

I hope you can sort out the defence craig.
I hope you can sort out the defence craig. jogalot
  • Score: 0

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