WILLIE IRVINE COLUMN: Burnley fans - 'Your club needs you'

Burnley fans: 'Your club needs you'

Burnley fans: 'Your club needs you'

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THIS is an urgent message for Burnley fans: Your club needs you!

For a team that is sitting second in the league, and has been in the top three since September, their lofty position and eye-catching football is not being reflected in home attendances.

The average attendance at Turf Moor is 12,382. Considering the Clarets have not been beaten at home in 19 league games, this figure needs to be higher. The players and manager deserve more.

And bigger crowds could make all the difference in the run-in.

Of the 15 games Burnley have left this season, eight of them are at home – with the first two against top six rivals Nottingham Forest and Derby County in the space of a week.

Leicester have to come here later next month.

There are some huge games on the horizon, and the Clarets would benefit from huge home crowds.

The players will want to ‘go for it’ and I would appeal to all supporters to come out in numbers and roar them on for the final lap of what could prove to be a memorable season.

If they fans flock in for the rest of the season, then they could turn around at the end of it and say: ‘I played my part. I helped the club.’

Burnley helped themselves to a point at Bournemouth, on a pitch which didn’t allow us to play the passing game which has contributed to our good season so far.

I thought when Keith Treacy scored a deserved equaliser in the 67th minute it was his way of getting his own back over former Clarets boss Eddie Howe, who he fell out with towards the end of his tenure.

How times have changed since then. Sean Dyche has had Keith in his office and rekindled the winger’s enthusiasm for the game simply by addressing his problems and airing them. Let’s hope that by doing that his demons are gone for good.

Sam Vokes and Danny Ings would have loved to have played their part in being on the winning team against their old club.

It wasn’t their day, which is perhaps no surprise as going back can be an emotional occasion.

Old colleagues, like Howe and assistant boss Jason Tindall, know most of you movements, and old team-mates will talk to you to try to unsettle you during the game and make you lose concentration.

The only time I experienced this was when I played against Burnley for Brighton.

Colin Waldron and Jim Thompson were the centre halves. Burnley won, of course, but I can still hear those two chattering away at me.

But back to the present Burnley side and the last three games have given us seven points and a four-point cushion before the visits of Forest and Derby, after Reading did us a favour in beating QPR.

I’m sure the players will rise to these next two occasions and move us a step nearer automatic promotion.

I hope the fans can do the same.

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3:28pm Wed 19 Feb 14

H2O Control says...

This an odd turn of events. When we won promotion to the Championship under Ternant we averaged 16,400. Why have we lost 4,000 fans? Answers from serious Clarets please.
This an odd turn of events. When we won promotion to the Championship under Ternant we averaged 16,400. Why have we lost 4,000 fans? Answers from serious Clarets please. H2O Control
  • Score: 6

3:33pm Wed 19 Feb 14

adcr says...

Come out, come out where ever you are.
Come out, come out where ever you are. adcr
  • Score: 0

3:41pm Wed 19 Feb 14

fretters says...

H2O Control wrote:
This an odd turn of events. When we won promotion to the Championship under Ternant we averaged 16,400. Why have we lost 4,000 fans? Answers from serious Clarets please.
The recession, I'm guessing. People seem to be more hard up these days and it isn't cheap to go on.
[quote][p][bold]H2O Control[/bold] wrote: This an odd turn of events. When we won promotion to the Championship under Ternant we averaged 16,400. Why have we lost 4,000 fans? Answers from serious Clarets please.[/p][/quote]The recession, I'm guessing. People seem to be more hard up these days and it isn't cheap to go on. fretters
  • Score: 8

4:06pm Wed 19 Feb 14

A Darener says...

Don't worry too much, when you eventually get promoted they will all come out the woodwork.
Don't worry too much, when you eventually get promoted they will all come out the woodwork. A Darener
  • Score: -2

4:20pm Wed 19 Feb 14

andy1 says...

fretters wrote:
H2O Control wrote:
This an odd turn of events. When we won promotion to the Championship under Ternant we averaged 16,400. Why have we lost 4,000 fans? Answers from serious Clarets please.
The recession, I'm guessing. People seem to be more hard up these days and it isn't cheap to go on.
Got to agree some folk have a choice feed your kids or go on the Turf with wages being stagment for years and every day prices going up in the UK. Maybe the club needs to take a look and see about reducing prices for certain games.
[quote][p][bold]fretters[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]H2O Control[/bold] wrote: This an odd turn of events. When we won promotion to the Championship under Ternant we averaged 16,400. Why have we lost 4,000 fans? Answers from serious Clarets please.[/p][/quote]The recession, I'm guessing. People seem to be more hard up these days and it isn't cheap to go on.[/p][/quote]Got to agree some folk have a choice feed your kids or go on the Turf with wages being stagment for years and every day prices going up in the UK. Maybe the club needs to take a look and see about reducing prices for certain games. andy1
  • Score: 8

4:21pm Wed 19 Feb 14

look.up.blackburn says...

A Darener wrote:
Don't worry too much, when you eventually get promoted they will all come out the woodwork.
That's always the case isn't it. But where have all your supporters gone?

Isn't your club effectively giving away tickets, and yet still people can't bear to watch the garbage served up at Ewood. Aren't you selling tickets for as low as £2.50? And yet still you can't entice people down. That's pretty poor.

Our crowds could certainly be better but at around £100 for a family of four to walk on, it's quite an outlay.
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Don't worry too much, when you eventually get promoted they will all come out the woodwork.[/p][/quote]That's always the case isn't it. But where have all your supporters gone? Isn't your club effectively giving away tickets, and yet still people can't bear to watch the garbage served up at Ewood. Aren't you selling tickets for as low as £2.50? And yet still you can't entice people down. That's pretty poor. Our crowds could certainly be better but at around £100 for a family of four to walk on, it's quite an outlay. look.up.blackburn
  • Score: 3

4:23pm Wed 19 Feb 14

A Darener says...

It is the owners that are keeping fans away not the football being played. I will return as soon as they are gone. That will be at least one more, I am sure there will be plenty of others.
It is the owners that are keeping fans away not the football being played. I will return as soon as they are gone. That will be at least one more, I am sure there will be plenty of others. A Darener
  • Score: -1

4:36pm Wed 19 Feb 14

H2O Control says...

A Darener wrote:
Don't worry too much, when you eventually get promoted they will all come out the woodwork.
Don't your lot have the expression "Glitterballs" for those you acquired in the Prem days, who have now gone AWAL? And that's a point, we've lost 8,200 of the average since the Prem. Some folk are fickle.
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Don't worry too much, when you eventually get promoted they will all come out the woodwork.[/p][/quote]Don't your lot have the expression "Glitterballs" for those you acquired in the Prem days, who have now gone AWAL? And that's a point, we've lost 8,200 of the average since the Prem. Some folk are fickle. H2O Control
  • Score: 4

5:40pm Wed 19 Feb 14

tall in the saddle says...

A Darener wrote:
It is the owners that are keeping fans away not the football being played. I will return as soon as they are gone. That will be at least one more, I am sure there will be plenty of others.
You know the problem is that when fans stop going to the games and find other things to do, it’s very difficult to get them back. Regarding your owners if you didn’t have them you would be like Coventry – b*ll@oksed.
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: It is the owners that are keeping fans away not the football being played. I will return as soon as they are gone. That will be at least one more, I am sure there will be plenty of others.[/p][/quote]You know the problem is that when fans stop going to the games and find other things to do, it’s very difficult to get them back. Regarding your owners if you didn’t have them you would be like Coventry – b*ll@oksed. tall in the saddle
  • Score: 2

5:46pm Wed 19 Feb 14

tall in the saddle says...

It really is mainly cost. It is an economically depressed area and many fans just can’t afford to go. Some fans from the area also watch Man United and City, Liverpool. All attracted by the big names. You know fans of some other clubs criticize the low crowds but what else can Burnley do? They are playing well, entertaining and are second in the league. Hard to know what they can do.
It really is mainly cost. It is an economically depressed area and many fans just can’t afford to go. Some fans from the area also watch Man United and City, Liverpool. All attracted by the big names. You know fans of some other clubs criticize the low crowds but what else can Burnley do? They are playing well, entertaining and are second in the league. Hard to know what they can do. tall in the saddle
  • Score: 8

6:27pm Wed 19 Feb 14

andy1 says...

A Darener wrote:
It is the owners that are keeping fans away not the football being played. I will return as soon as they are gone. That will be at least one more, I am sure there will be plenty of others.
The Venkys own the club not you. They can do what they like with it if you like it or not. Looks like you wont be going to a game again hahahaha. Long live the Venkys. UTC
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: It is the owners that are keeping fans away not the football being played. I will return as soon as they are gone. That will be at least one more, I am sure there will be plenty of others.[/p][/quote]The Venkys own the club not you. They can do what they like with it if you like it or not. Looks like you wont be going to a game again hahahaha. Long live the Venkys. UTC andy1
  • Score: -2

6:28pm Wed 19 Feb 14

McClaret says...

Said for a long time that our pricing structure for fans is wrong. Midas will probably shoot me down for saying so.
When they offered the half season ticket at a price that cost more than an entire season ticket at Blackpool, and Huddersfield it summed it up perfectly. even Blackburn's season ticket was only £20 more expensive than our half one.
For me it was a pathetic attempt by our marketing department. Why didn't they offer it at £100 and offer season ticket holders a half price ticket if promoted or a reduction on next season's ticket price if not. Yes there is an element of a gamble on the part of the club as there is for the fan shelving out £30+ quid to watch a game that could be 0-0.
Those who mention the recession are completely right and especially the point about £100 for a family of 4. Why don't they do a family ticket for say £50 for certain games. These are the future supporters who are currently not watching or team.
Yes all is great on the pitch at the moment and i am sure I will get the thumbs down for criticising the club, put simply - is their current strategy working when it comes to attendances?
Said for a long time that our pricing structure for fans is wrong. Midas will probably shoot me down for saying so. When they offered the half season ticket at a price that cost more than an entire season ticket at Blackpool, and Huddersfield it summed it up perfectly. even Blackburn's season ticket was only £20 more expensive than our half one. For me it was a pathetic attempt by our marketing department. Why didn't they offer it at £100 and offer season ticket holders a half price ticket if promoted or a reduction on next season's ticket price if not. Yes there is an element of a gamble on the part of the club as there is for the fan shelving out £30+ quid to watch a game that could be 0-0. Those who mention the recession are completely right and especially the point about £100 for a family of 4. Why don't they do a family ticket for say £50 for certain games. These are the future supporters who are currently not watching or team. Yes all is great on the pitch at the moment and i am sure I will get the thumbs down for criticising the club, put simply - is their current strategy working when it comes to attendances? McClaret
  • Score: 8

7:01pm Wed 19 Feb 14

garyintandem says...

Have you sold all your tickets for March 9? Maybe your fans have been saving up for the biggest game of the season. David Dunn is blue and white :)
Have you sold all your tickets for March 9? Maybe your fans have been saving up for the biggest game of the season. David Dunn is blue and white :) garyintandem
  • Score: 2

8:49pm Wed 19 Feb 14

masher50 says...

A Darener wrote:
It is the owners that are keeping fans away not the football being played. I will return as soon as they are gone. That will be at least one more, I am sure there will be plenty of others.
Standard excuse many rovers fans are now hiding behind. First it was "I'm not coming back whilst Kean is in charge" then it was whilst Shebby was around, now it's Venkys themselves, who have so far this season backed off and allowed £ to be invested.
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: It is the owners that are keeping fans away not the football being played. I will return as soon as they are gone. That will be at least one more, I am sure there will be plenty of others.[/p][/quote]Standard excuse many rovers fans are now hiding behind. First it was "I'm not coming back whilst Kean is in charge" then it was whilst Shebby was around, now it's Venkys themselves, who have so far this season backed off and allowed £ to be invested. masher50
  • Score: 0

9:15pm Wed 19 Feb 14

stevieclaret says...

garyintandem wrote:
Have you sold all your tickets for March 9? Maybe your fans have been saving up for the biggest game of the season. David Dunn is blue and white :)
Ha ha ha. To get your fans on they are offering Bournemouth for a fiver. Priceless.

U can't shift tickets for ur derby so they offer incentives. How pathetic.

U couldn't even sell out ur away allocation at the turf - 2300. How laughable!
[quote][p][bold]garyintandem[/bold] wrote: Have you sold all your tickets for March 9? Maybe your fans have been saving up for the biggest game of the season. David Dunn is blue and white :)[/p][/quote]Ha ha ha. To get your fans on they are offering Bournemouth for a fiver. Priceless. U can't shift tickets for ur derby so they offer incentives. How pathetic. U couldn't even sell out ur away allocation at the turf - 2300. How laughable! stevieclaret
  • Score: 1

9:30pm Wed 19 Feb 14

A Darener says...

Jan 2011 mail online.....Mrs Desai remains convinced 'that within three years, we can be somewhere between seventh and fifth. That's our aim.'
Venky Rao defend's his sister's positive stance.
'You have to be allowed to think freely and act freely in this world,' he says. 'We will try to become one of the best clubs. That doesn't mean we promise to finish top four but why would we set an aim to finish 15th to 20th? That only demoralises yourself. We should think big, aim high.
'One thing is sure. If we go into this with the intention of getting publicity as a motivation, it's going to fail. If I buy as the first Indian and fail, that is a huge embarrassment. We're not at Blackburn for profit or publicity, we're at Blackburn because we'll enjoy it, and to create a legacy.'


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That is why most of the Blackburn Rovers missing 10000 don't go to watch the team at Ewood. If they apologised for their broken promises as listed above, if they showed some remorse for what they have done to one of the best run town clubs in the country then they may start to build bridges with the missing fans. They have kept one promise, they have created a legacy, a legacy of failure.
Jan 2011 mail online.....Mrs Desai remains convinced 'that within three years, we can be somewhere between seventh and fifth. That's our aim.' Venky Rao defend's his sister's positive stance. 'You have to be allowed to think freely and act freely in this world,' he says. 'We will try to become one of the best clubs. That doesn't mean we promise to finish top four but why would we set an aim to finish 15th to 20th? That only demoralises yourself. We should think big, aim high. 'One thing is sure. If we go into this with the intention of getting publicity as a motivation, it's going to fail. If I buy as the first Indian and fail, that is a huge embarrassment. We're not at Blackburn for profit or publicity, we're at Blackburn because we'll enjoy it, and to create a legacy.' Read more: http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-1347547/Th e-Bollywood-billiona ires-Blackburn.html# ixzz2to071LKX Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook That is why most of the Blackburn Rovers missing 10000 don't go to watch the team at Ewood. If they apologised for their broken promises as listed above, if they showed some remorse for what they have done to one of the best run town clubs in the country then they may start to build bridges with the missing fans. They have kept one promise, they have created a legacy, a legacy of failure. A Darener
  • Score: 4

9:33pm Wed 19 Feb 14

A Darener says...

Ps we are not even between 7th and 5th in the Championship.
Ps we are not even between 7th and 5th in the Championship. A Darener
  • Score: 1

9:49pm Wed 19 Feb 14

Lancs - pensioner says...

H2O Control wrote:
This an odd turn of events. When we won promotion to the Championship under Ternant we averaged 16,400. Why have we lost 4,000 fans? Answers from serious Clarets please.
Hi H20, I don't think this is only a Burnley FC problem, it's happening in many football clubs, as a rovers fan I pick and choose my games, depending on my finances.
When we stop paying average players 10/20/30 thousand a week and the cost comes back into our real world then then the fans may start to return.
Not taking a pop here but with the good football you lot are playing and your second in the league you should be getting 15000 plus, so there is obviously other problems for your average fan that at this moment in time can't be explained.
[quote][p][bold]H2O Control[/bold] wrote: This an odd turn of events. When we won promotion to the Championship under Ternant we averaged 16,400. Why have we lost 4,000 fans? Answers from serious Clarets please.[/p][/quote]Hi H20, I don't think this is only a Burnley FC problem, it's happening in many football clubs, as a rovers fan I pick and choose my games, depending on my finances. When we stop paying average players 10/20/30 thousand a week and the cost comes back into our real world then then the fans may start to return. Not taking a pop here but with the good football you lot are playing and your second in the league you should be getting 15000 plus, so there is obviously other problems for your average fan that at this moment in time can't be explained. Lancs - pensioner
  • Score: 4

9:53pm Wed 19 Feb 14

eddyo says...

andy1 wrote:
fretters wrote:
H2O Control wrote:
This an odd turn of events. When we won promotion to the Championship under Ternant we averaged 16,400. Why have we lost 4,000 fans? Answers from serious Clarets please.
The recession, I'm guessing. People seem to be more hard up these days and it isn't cheap to go on.
Got to agree some folk have a choice feed your kids or go on the Turf with wages being stagment for years and every day prices going up in the UK. Maybe the club needs to take a look and see about reducing prices for certain games.
Don't you mean feed somebody else's kids? - fathers unknown, like.
[quote][p][bold]andy1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fretters[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]H2O Control[/bold] wrote: This an odd turn of events. When we won promotion to the Championship under Ternant we averaged 16,400. Why have we lost 4,000 fans? Answers from serious Clarets please.[/p][/quote]The recession, I'm guessing. People seem to be more hard up these days and it isn't cheap to go on.[/p][/quote]Got to agree some folk have a choice feed your kids or go on the Turf with wages being stagment for years and every day prices going up in the UK. Maybe the club needs to take a look and see about reducing prices for certain games.[/p][/quote]Don't you mean feed somebody else's kids? - fathers unknown, like. eddyo
  • Score: -1

11:02pm Wed 19 Feb 14

Ashton.1988 says...

35 years its been 35 years!! Were Blackburn Rovers the dingles cant beat us
35 years its been 35 years!! Were Blackburn Rovers the dingles cant beat us Ashton.1988
  • Score: -3

11:29pm Wed 19 Feb 14

burnleyglentoran says...

Ashton.1988 wrote:
35 years its been 35 years!! Were Blackburn Rovers the dingles cant beat us
7 wins in 35 years.

Doesnt sound so impressive when you say it how it is now does it!

In the meantime.

Mind the gulf and keep on looking up!!!!

BURNLEY FC - EAST LANCS TOP DOGS
[quote][p][bold]Ashton.1988[/bold] wrote: 35 years its been 35 years!! Were Blackburn Rovers the dingles cant beat us[/p][/quote]7 wins in 35 years. Doesnt sound so impressive when you say it how it is now does it! In the meantime. Mind the gulf and keep on looking up!!!! BURNLEY FC - EAST LANCS TOP DOGS burnleyglentoran
  • Score: 2

7:48am Thu 20 Feb 14

A Darener says...

burnleyglentoran wrote:
Ashton.1988 wrote:
35 years its been 35 years!! Were Blackburn Rovers the dingles cant beat us
7 wins in 35 years.

Doesnt sound so impressive when you say it how it is now does it!

In the meantime.

Mind the gulf and keep on looking up!!!!

BURNLEY FC - EAST LANCS TOP DOGS
Whose fault is that? Yours I believe, spending most of that time far below us.
We would have loved to have played you twice a year and increased our win ratio.
[quote][p][bold]burnleyglentoran[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ashton.1988[/bold] wrote: 35 years its been 35 years!! Were Blackburn Rovers the dingles cant beat us[/p][/quote]7 wins in 35 years. Doesnt sound so impressive when you say it how it is now does it! In the meantime. Mind the gulf and keep on looking up!!!! BURNLEY FC - EAST LANCS TOP DOGS[/p][/quote]Whose fault is that? Yours I believe, spending most of that time far below us. We would have loved to have played you twice a year and increased our win ratio. A Darener
  • Score: 3

8:40am Thu 20 Feb 14

xsblue says...

A Darener wrote:
It is the owners that are keeping fans away not the football being played. I will return as soon as they are gone. That will be at least one more, I am sure there will be plenty of others.
the owners dont play, its the boys in blue and white who you support, with fans like you no wonder we are were we are, loser. and thats from a blackburn lad born an bred rover.
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: It is the owners that are keeping fans away not the football being played. I will return as soon as they are gone. That will be at least one more, I am sure there will be plenty of others.[/p][/quote]the owners dont play, its the boys in blue and white who you support, with fans like you no wonder we are were we are, loser. and thats from a blackburn lad born an bred rover. xsblue
  • Score: 2

8:45am Thu 20 Feb 14

houseclaret says...

Lancs - pensioner wrote:
H2O Control wrote:
This an odd turn of events. When we won promotion to the Championship under Ternant we averaged 16,400. Why have we lost 4,000 fans? Answers from serious Clarets please.
Hi H20, I don't think this is only a Burnley FC problem, it's happening in many football clubs, as a rovers fan I pick and choose my games, depending on my finances.
When we stop paying average players 10/20/30 thousand a week and the cost comes back into our real world then then the fans may start to return.
Not taking a pop here but with the good football you lot are playing and your second in the league you should be getting 15000 plus, so there is obviously other problems for your average fan that at this moment in time can't be explained.
The one thread amongst this article, even with Rovers comments (apart from the usual brain dead), is the economy. I have posted before about this (many times) and I agree with you Pensioner, we should be getting more and so should you with the size of Blackburn (there are smaller cities) but football is a game, a pastime, no matter how passionate we get about it, and if a choice has to be made between a roof over your families head and food on the table or going to a football match there really is no decision to be made. I also agree about the wages paid to players. How can we justify parting with hard earned cash to watch people play football when those same people have no such worries about where the next meal is coming from (stretching the point a bit but you get my drift)? The players and their agents are to blame for the cost of going to a match anyway, so it is a bit odd when managers and players moan about lack of support.
I have been a life-long Burnley fan and love the club and I am proud of what is going on at the moment, but if it means missing the odd game to pay the mortgage then I ain't gonna apologise to anybody for that.
[quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]H2O Control[/bold] wrote: This an odd turn of events. When we won promotion to the Championship under Ternant we averaged 16,400. Why have we lost 4,000 fans? Answers from serious Clarets please.[/p][/quote]Hi H20, I don't think this is only a Burnley FC problem, it's happening in many football clubs, as a rovers fan I pick and choose my games, depending on my finances. When we stop paying average players 10/20/30 thousand a week and the cost comes back into our real world then then the fans may start to return. Not taking a pop here but with the good football you lot are playing and your second in the league you should be getting 15000 plus, so there is obviously other problems for your average fan that at this moment in time can't be explained.[/p][/quote]The one thread amongst this article, even with Rovers comments (apart from the usual brain dead), is the economy. I have posted before about this (many times) and I agree with you Pensioner, we should be getting more and so should you with the size of Blackburn (there are smaller cities) but football is a game, a pastime, no matter how passionate we get about it, and if a choice has to be made between a roof over your families head and food on the table or going to a football match there really is no decision to be made. I also agree about the wages paid to players. How can we justify parting with hard earned cash to watch people play football when those same people have no such worries about where the next meal is coming from (stretching the point a bit but you get my drift)? The players and their agents are to blame for the cost of going to a match anyway, so it is a bit odd when managers and players moan about lack of support. I have been a life-long Burnley fan and love the club and I am proud of what is going on at the moment, but if it means missing the odd game to pay the mortgage then I ain't gonna apologise to anybody for that. houseclaret
  • Score: 4

8:53am Thu 20 Feb 14

midas says...

garyintandem wrote:
Have you sold all your tickets for March 9? Maybe your fans have been saving up for the biggest game of the season. David Dunn is blue and white :)
Is he Papa Smurf?
[quote][p][bold]garyintandem[/bold] wrote: Have you sold all your tickets for March 9? Maybe your fans have been saving up for the biggest game of the season. David Dunn is blue and white :)[/p][/quote]Is he Papa Smurf? midas
  • Score: 2

9:19am Thu 20 Feb 14

Lancs - pensioner says...

houseclaret wrote:
Lancs - pensioner wrote:
H2O Control wrote:
This an odd turn of events. When we won promotion to the Championship under Ternant we averaged 16,400. Why have we lost 4,000 fans? Answers from serious Clarets please.
Hi H20, I don't think this is only a Burnley FC problem, it's happening in many football clubs, as a rovers fan I pick and choose my games, depending on my finances.
When we stop paying average players 10/20/30 thousand a week and the cost comes back into our real world then then the fans may start to return.
Not taking a pop here but with the good football you lot are playing and your second in the league you should be getting 15000 plus, so there is obviously other problems for your average fan that at this moment in time can't be explained.
The one thread amongst this article, even with Rovers comments (apart from the usual brain dead), is the economy. I have posted before about this (many times) and I agree with you Pensioner, we should be getting more and so should you with the size of Blackburn (there are smaller cities) but football is a game, a pastime, no matter how passionate we get about it, and if a choice has to be made between a roof over your families head and food on the table or going to a football match there really is no decision to be made. I also agree about the wages paid to players. How can we justify parting with hard earned cash to watch people play football when those same people have no such worries about where the next meal is coming from (stretching the point a bit but you get my drift)? The players and their agents are to blame for the cost of going to a match anyway, so it is a bit odd when managers and players moan about lack of support.
I have been a life-long Burnley fan and love the club and I am proud of what is going on at the moment, but if it means missing the odd game to pay the mortgage then I ain't gonna apologise to anybody for that.
Hi HC, good points, a couple of things I remember (at my age) you could go into a pub on a Saturday night and you would see a player having a pint with the fans and I'll never forget working in Dingle land and going into (was it) John Connleys chip shop on brier field Rd, nice bloke gave you the time of day, ah well that's all in the past unfortunately. Still if you lot go up this season money should not be a problem for a few years and maybe just maybe they will reduce your ticket prices!!
[quote][p][bold]houseclaret[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]H2O Control[/bold] wrote: This an odd turn of events. When we won promotion to the Championship under Ternant we averaged 16,400. Why have we lost 4,000 fans? Answers from serious Clarets please.[/p][/quote]Hi H20, I don't think this is only a Burnley FC problem, it's happening in many football clubs, as a rovers fan I pick and choose my games, depending on my finances. When we stop paying average players 10/20/30 thousand a week and the cost comes back into our real world then then the fans may start to return. Not taking a pop here but with the good football you lot are playing and your second in the league you should be getting 15000 plus, so there is obviously other problems for your average fan that at this moment in time can't be explained.[/p][/quote]The one thread amongst this article, even with Rovers comments (apart from the usual brain dead), is the economy. I have posted before about this (many times) and I agree with you Pensioner, we should be getting more and so should you with the size of Blackburn (there are smaller cities) but football is a game, a pastime, no matter how passionate we get about it, and if a choice has to be made between a roof over your families head and food on the table or going to a football match there really is no decision to be made. I also agree about the wages paid to players. How can we justify parting with hard earned cash to watch people play football when those same people have no such worries about where the next meal is coming from (stretching the point a bit but you get my drift)? The players and their agents are to blame for the cost of going to a match anyway, so it is a bit odd when managers and players moan about lack of support. I have been a life-long Burnley fan and love the club and I am proud of what is going on at the moment, but if it means missing the odd game to pay the mortgage then I ain't gonna apologise to anybody for that.[/p][/quote]Hi HC, good points, a couple of things I remember (at my age) you could go into a pub on a Saturday night and you would see a player having a pint with the fans and I'll never forget working in Dingle land and going into (was it) John Connleys chip shop on brier field Rd, nice bloke gave you the time of day, ah well that's all in the past unfortunately. Still if you lot go up this season money should not be a problem for a few years and maybe just maybe they will reduce your ticket prices!! Lancs - pensioner
  • Score: 8

10:13am Thu 20 Feb 14

houseclaret says...

I don't know how much older you are than me LP but I know what you mean and, yes, John Connely was a thoroughly decent bloke (as was Sir Tom Finney apparently). It's difficult to compare the players from the past with players now, there are different values involved. In the past they tended to be working class blokes without tons of money who felt privileged to play football for a living. Now we have young men who, at least in the top two divisions, have far more money than the average and they can, I think, be forgiven a bit of arrogance, it's not their fault. It stretches far beyond football and winds up in the realm of "celebrity" which is probably the curse of the modern value system. I would like to see a massive curb on player wages at ALL levels to encourage a more level playing field in competitions and to bring the players themselves a bit more down to reality but, in all honesty, I don't think that's going to happen any time soon.
I don't know how much older you are than me LP but I know what you mean and, yes, John Connely was a thoroughly decent bloke (as was Sir Tom Finney apparently). It's difficult to compare the players from the past with players now, there are different values involved. In the past they tended to be working class blokes without tons of money who felt privileged to play football for a living. Now we have young men who, at least in the top two divisions, have far more money than the average and they can, I think, be forgiven a bit of arrogance, it's not their fault. It stretches far beyond football and winds up in the realm of "celebrity" which is probably the curse of the modern value system. I would like to see a massive curb on player wages at ALL levels to encourage a more level playing field in competitions and to bring the players themselves a bit more down to reality but, in all honesty, I don't think that's going to happen any time soon. houseclaret
  • Score: 7

11:16am Thu 20 Feb 14

BubblePopFC_11K_Fans says...

Begging for fans from the best supported team in the world. PMSL
Begging for fans from the best supported team in the world. PMSL BubblePopFC_11K_Fans
  • Score: -5

12:07pm Thu 20 Feb 14

houseclaret says...

BubblePopFC_11K_Fans wrote:
Begging for fans from the best supported team in the world. PMSL
Have you actually READ any of the above posts at all? Good points mostly, not all from Clarets. Get your head from up your backside and try to get your head around the fact that people in depressed areas (Blackburn included) have more important things to do with their money than give it to wealthy footballers every week. I do NOT go to every game. Why? Because I can't afford to! And I'm not that badly paid (slightly above average) so how much more difficult is it for low paid/pensioners/unem
ployed (of which there are many in BOTH towns?
Of course you support a club who charge top dollar for tickets and play in front of a full hose every week don't you. (NOT).
[quote][p][bold]BubblePopFC_11K_Fans[/bold] wrote: Begging for fans from the best supported team in the world. PMSL[/p][/quote]Have you actually READ any of the above posts at all? Good points mostly, not all from Clarets. Get your head from up your backside and try to get your head around the fact that people in depressed areas (Blackburn included) have more important things to do with their money than give it to wealthy footballers every week. I do NOT go to every game. Why? Because I can't afford to! And I'm not that badly paid (slightly above average) so how much more difficult is it for low paid/pensioners/unem ployed (of which there are many in BOTH towns? Of course you support a club who charge top dollar for tickets and play in front of a full hose every week don't you. (NOT). houseclaret
  • Score: 3

2:07pm Fri 21 Feb 14

leyton says...

What a moron Irvine is .Why do the team need people on the Moor ?can't he just come out with it and say that the club want more people to extort money from I gave up halfway through the premier season because it was dire .I now use the money to have a nice holiday every year good stuff .Nothing would entice me back to an expensive ,cold ,overpriced ,moaning cheating game .If they win promotion big deal .It won't bring any benefits to Burnley fans the prices will go up the filth will block more roads off and become more aggressive than normal.
One season in the premier achieved nothing really for the town ,a lot of players got richer and so did the directors the filth made the fans bus in and bus out so any extra was a joke.Can anyone claim that it would be good i doubt it another season of relegation moaning and cheating and the money would disappear again.
What a moron Irvine is .Why do the team need people on the Moor ?can't he just come out with it and say that the club want more people to extort money from I gave up halfway through the premier season because it was dire .I now use the money to have a nice holiday every year good stuff .Nothing would entice me back to an expensive ,cold ,overpriced ,moaning cheating game .If they win promotion big deal .It won't bring any benefits to Burnley fans the prices will go up the filth will block more roads off and become more aggressive than normal. One season in the premier achieved nothing really for the town ,a lot of players got richer and so did the directors the filth made the fans bus in and bus out so any extra was a joke.Can anyone claim that it would be good i doubt it another season of relegation moaning and cheating and the money would disappear again. leyton
  • Score: 0

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