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QPR boss Harry Redknapp rules out move for Blackburn Rovers hitman Jordan Rhodes

Lancashire Telegraph: QPR boss Harry Redknapp QPR boss Harry Redknapp

QPR manager Harry Redknapp has ruled out a move for Jordan Rhodes after claiming Blackburn Rovers will not lower their asking price for their ‘amazing’ top scorer.

Redknapp, who is the market for a new striker, said: “He’s too expensive.

“He’s a good player but I don’t think they’ll lower the price.

“They want their money back – they want their £8m or £9m for him.

“Every week he scores. He’s amazing.”

Rhodes has scored an incredible 44 goals in 76 appearances for Rovers since his £8m move from Huddersfield Town in August 2012.

Gary Bowyer has continually stressed that the Scotland international striker, 23, is not for a sale while admitting that every player has a price.

That price for Rhodes, however, is not the ‘£8m or £9m’ quoted by Redknapp.

Bowyer told the Lancashire Telegraph earlier this month: “Jordan Rhodes isn’t for sale.

“I was never very good at maths but we paid £8m for him, then he goes and scores the most goals in the calendar year – more than Luis Suarez – and yet he is still valued at £8m.

“That doesn’t quite add up to me.

“But then again I’m no Carol Vorderman!”

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10:44am Wed 22 Jan 14

Dukes says...

time will tell if he still here.
time will tell if he still here. Dukes
  • Score: -4

10:50am Wed 22 Jan 14

Harwoodstblue says...

One thing about Venkys is that they drive a hard bargain and after paying £8 mill for him they want their money back. Good for them.
We might have overpaid for Rhodes initially but that is now turning to our advantage as it's keeping the vultures at bay. There's a couple of cheap strikers down the road but I doubt they'll be good enough for Redknapp to consider.
One thing about Venkys is that they drive a hard bargain and after paying £8 mill for him they want their money back. Good for them. We might have overpaid for Rhodes initially but that is now turning to our advantage as it's keeping the vultures at bay. There's a couple of cheap strikers down the road but I doubt they'll be good enough for Redknapp to consider. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 9

10:53am Wed 22 Jan 14

Lancs - pensioner says...

I think it would be the final nail in the coffin for the Venkys if they sold Rhodes, having said that I believe he will stay at least until the summer.
Keep going GB it's a tough journey and there are potholes along the way but your doing very well so far.
I think it would be the final nail in the coffin for the Venkys if they sold Rhodes, having said that I believe he will stay at least until the summer. Keep going GB it's a tough journey and there are potholes along the way but your doing very well so far. Lancs - pensioner
  • Score: 14

11:16am Wed 22 Jan 14

hasslem hasslem says...

has redknapp's face melted?
has redknapp's face melted? hasslem hasslem
  • Score: -2

11:22am Wed 22 Jan 14

glynners says...

'Arry up to his old tricks talking about other teams players. Gets away with it every transfer window. Other managers would be fined
'Arry up to his old tricks talking about other teams players. Gets away with it every transfer window. Other managers would be fined glynners
  • Score: 13

11:50am Wed 22 Jan 14

French Rover says...

If Harry thinks that Rhodes is `amazing` then he really wants him for QPR!
You have to assume his talk about an 8 or 9 million price is just a bluff....maybe Rovers should be prepared for a higher bid for Rhodes from Harry, possibly 10 million plus a player and a sell-on clause? Or a straight 12 million?
Could the Rovers refuse an offer like that, probably not, even thouugh it would hurt a lot of Rovers fans.
If Harry thinks that Rhodes is `amazing` then he really wants him for QPR! You have to assume his talk about an 8 or 9 million price is just a bluff....maybe Rovers should be prepared for a higher bid for Rhodes from Harry, possibly 10 million plus a player and a sell-on clause? Or a straight 12 million? Could the Rovers refuse an offer like that, probably not, even thouugh it would hurt a lot of Rovers fans. French Rover
  • Score: -1

11:56am Wed 22 Jan 14

owd nick says...

glynners wrote:
'Arry up to his old tricks talking about other teams players. Gets away with it every transfer window. Other managers would be fined
Agreed he's a crafty old bugger, he will do his best to unsettle Rhodes and use his agent as well, but it all depends if Venky's hold their nerve or not.

We keep getting the mantra "I don't have to sell my best players", lets see how it pans out.
[quote][p][bold]glynners[/bold] wrote: 'Arry up to his old tricks talking about other teams players. Gets away with it every transfer window. Other managers would be fined[/p][/quote]Agreed he's a crafty old bugger, he will do his best to unsettle Rhodes and use his agent as well, but it all depends if Venky's hold their nerve or not. We keep getting the mantra "I don't have to sell my best players", lets see how it pans out. owd nick
  • Score: 2

12:32pm Wed 22 Jan 14

chicken.pluckers says...

Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to:
1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt)
2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers.
Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.
Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to: 1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt) 2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers. Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window. chicken.pluckers
  • Score: -2

12:32pm Wed 22 Jan 14

jack01 says...

Nothing new here. This is no different to Dougie Freedman last summer or Tony Pulis in December. Both were questioned by rumour spreading journalists about Rhodes and rather than do the professional thing and refuse to speak about players at other clubs they all admitted they would be interested but the price would be too high. Hardly surprising as Rhodes is the best striker in the division. Its to be expected from the likes of Redknapp who I wouldn't trust as far as I could throw him.

If he needs a new striker why doesn't he recall his £10 million Remy out on loan at Newcastle?

As long as Rovers stay strong and price clubs out then there is nothing to worry about. Its quite clear Rhodes is happy at the club (reiterated once again this morning).
Nothing new here. This is no different to Dougie Freedman last summer or Tony Pulis in December. Both were questioned by rumour spreading journalists about Rhodes and rather than do the professional thing and refuse to speak about players at other clubs they all admitted they would be interested but the price would be too high. Hardly surprising as Rhodes is the best striker in the division. Its to be expected from the likes of Redknapp who I wouldn't trust as far as I could throw him. If he needs a new striker why doesn't he recall his £10 million Remy out on loan at Newcastle? As long as Rovers stay strong and price clubs out then there is nothing to worry about. Its quite clear Rhodes is happy at the club (reiterated once again this morning). jack01
  • Score: 3

12:33pm Wed 22 Jan 14

azza234 says...

It won't unsettle rhodes so no point thinking it will he keeps saying he ignore's it how many more times does he have to keep saying it before people get the message?.
It won't unsettle rhodes so no point thinking it will he keeps saying he ignore's it how many more times does he have to keep saying it before people get the message?. azza234
  • Score: 1

12:44pm Wed 22 Jan 14

azza234 says...

Just like ings you mean if venky's wanted to sell rhodes it wont take them till then end of the window they would just do it
Just like ings you mean if venky's wanted to sell rhodes it wont take them till then end of the window they would just do it azza234
  • Score: -1

12:48pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Truerover85 says...

chicken.pluckers wrote:
Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to:
1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt)
2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers.
Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.
Somebody remind this tool that Venky are billion airs. Remind me how much the Burnley chairmens worth again. 56million is a drop in the ocean of money those seedy indian pirates have in their chicken coop!

Also do you honestly think your few good players will stick with Burnley if you dont get premoted? Thats how football works u knobb sack!
[quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to: 1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt) 2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers. Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.[/p][/quote]Somebody remind this tool that Venky are billion airs. Remind me how much the Burnley chairmens worth again. 56million is a drop in the ocean of money those seedy indian pirates have in their chicken coop! Also do you honestly think your few good players will stick with Burnley if you dont get premoted? Thats how football works u knobb sack! Truerover85
  • Score: -1

12:51pm Wed 22 Jan 14

chicken.pluckers says...

Rhodes head has now been turned by QPR, he can sense a shot at the Premier League and a doubling of his already enormous salary.

Why would he want to stay at Blackburn?
Rhodes head has now been turned by QPR, he can sense a shot at the Premier League and a doubling of his already enormous salary. Why would he want to stay at Blackburn? chicken.pluckers
  • Score: 2

12:51pm Wed 22 Jan 14

jimluftas says...

chicken.pluckers wrote:
Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to:
1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt)
2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers.
Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.
You really are a loser. Why would any true fan read every story about their bitter rivals? Can only be a combination of no job/girlfriend/life.
[quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to: 1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt) 2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers. Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.[/p][/quote]You really are a loser. Why would any true fan read every story about their bitter rivals? Can only be a combination of no job/girlfriend/life. jimluftas
  • Score: 4

12:58pm Wed 22 Jan 14

chicken.pluckers says...

Truerover85 wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to:
1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt)
2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers.
Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.
Somebody remind this tool that Venky are billion airs. Remind me how much the Burnley chairmens worth again. 56million is a drop in the ocean of money those seedy indian pirates have in their chicken coop!

Also do you honestly think your few good players will stick with Burnley if you dont get premoted? Thats how football works u knobb sack!
So why then have they allowed you to be punished with a transfer embargo as of next season? Its called making a MASSIVE loss. You can't buy your way out of trouble any more you mug.

Burnley are a well-respected, well-run, proper football club, challenging for promotion to the Premier League, something which Blackburn Rovers will never be.

And we're 14 points ahead of you morons. Hows that sound?
[quote][p][bold]Truerover85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to: 1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt) 2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers. Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.[/p][/quote]Somebody remind this tool that Venky are billion airs. Remind me how much the Burnley chairmens worth again. 56million is a drop in the ocean of money those seedy indian pirates have in their chicken coop! Also do you honestly think your few good players will stick with Burnley if you dont get premoted? Thats how football works u knobb sack![/p][/quote]So why then have they allowed you to be punished with a transfer embargo as of next season? Its called making a MASSIVE loss. You can't buy your way out of trouble any more you mug. Burnley are a well-respected, well-run, proper football club, challenging for promotion to the Premier League, something which Blackburn Rovers will never be. And we're 14 points ahead of you morons. Hows that sound? chicken.pluckers
  • Score: -14

1:01pm Wed 22 Jan 14

jim 2012 says...

chicken.pluckers wrote:
Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to:
1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt)
2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers.
Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.
who do you think rovers owe the bullk of the debt to I will give you a clue
it begins with the letter V and they are billionaires
[quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to: 1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt) 2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers. Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.[/p][/quote]who do you think rovers owe the bullk of the debt to I will give you a clue it begins with the letter V and they are billionaires jim 2012
  • Score: 2

1:01pm Wed 22 Jan 14

earwego says...

chicken.pluckers wrote:
Rhodes head has now been turned by QPR, he can sense a shot at the Premier League and a doubling of his already enormous salary.

Why would he want to stay at Blackburn?
Same could be said of Ings,a good offer and he will be off,lets be honest,he would have his wage doubled to at least £10 a week if not more,same with Voakes. All players have a price,even a dimwit like you know that,difference with Rhodes he has said many times he is happy at Rovers.Waiting to hear same from Ings or Voakes if or when the offers from Fulham and Liverpool start to come in.
[quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: Rhodes head has now been turned by QPR, he can sense a shot at the Premier League and a doubling of his already enormous salary. Why would he want to stay at Blackburn?[/p][/quote]Same could be said of Ings,a good offer and he will be off,lets be honest,he would have his wage doubled to at least £10 a week if not more,same with Voakes. All players have a price,even a dimwit like you know that,difference with Rhodes he has said many times he is happy at Rovers.Waiting to hear same from Ings or Voakes if or when the offers from Fulham and Liverpool start to come in. earwego
  • Score: -3

1:05pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Wild Rover says...

jimluftas wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to:
1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt)
2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers.
Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.
You really are a loser. Why would any true fan read every story about their bitter rivals? Can only be a combination of no job/girlfriend/life.
It is fact all three plus an inferiority complex caused by the smallness of his manhood.
Sad no life gimp
Arry just playing his games, no intention of buying at all, not even Ings who would come cheaper, desperate as he is to get away from the Burnable.
Rhodes going nowhere this window and re-enforcements heading in to Ewood as we further balance the squad AND the books
It's not looking good for Burnley.....is it Baldric?
[quote][p][bold]jimluftas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to: 1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt) 2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers. Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.[/p][/quote]You really are a loser. Why would any true fan read every story about their bitter rivals? Can only be a combination of no job/girlfriend/life.[/p][/quote]It is fact all three plus an inferiority complex caused by the smallness of his manhood. Sad no life gimp Arry just playing his games, no intention of buying at all, not even Ings who would come cheaper, desperate as he is to get away from the Burnable. Rhodes going nowhere this window and re-enforcements heading in to Ewood as we further balance the squad AND the books It's not looking good for Burnley.....is it Baldric? Wild Rover
  • Score: 1

1:08pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Rovers 1495 says...

chicken.pluckers wrote:
Rhodes head has now been turned by QPR, he can sense a shot at the Premier League and a doubling of his already enormous salary.

Why would he want to stay at Blackburn?
He obviously can't wait to get away

http://www.sportingl
ife.com/football/new
s/article/165/912804
6/rhodes-premier-lea
gue-goal

Go whack off on the BFC pages
[quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: Rhodes head has now been turned by QPR, he can sense a shot at the Premier League and a doubling of his already enormous salary. Why would he want to stay at Blackburn?[/p][/quote]He obviously can't wait to get away http://www.sportingl ife.com/football/new s/article/165/912804 6/rhodes-premier-lea gue-goal Go whack off on the BFC pages Rovers 1495
  • Score: -2

1:11pm Wed 22 Jan 14

earwego says...

chicken.pluckers wrote:
Truerover85 wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to:
1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt)
2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers.
Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.
Somebody remind this tool that Venky are billion airs. Remind me how much the Burnley chairmens worth again. 56million is a drop in the ocean of money those seedy indian pirates have in their chicken coop!

Also do you honestly think your few good players will stick with Burnley if you dont get premoted? Thats how football works u knobb sack!
So why then have they allowed you to be punished with a transfer embargo as of next season? Its called making a MASSIVE loss. You can't buy your way out of trouble any more you mug.

Burnley are a well-respected, well-run, proper football club, challenging for promotion to the Premier League, something which Blackburn Rovers will never be.

And we're 14 points ahead of you morons. Hows that sound?
Could it be that the squad is being built up this year to offset any transfer embargo? Could it be that this squad and a few additions are going to be the squad that makes the push next season?All players knowing each others game,all young and eager. It could be a case that Rovers will not need any additions next year if they keep this squad together.You Dingles if not promoted will lose half your squad,if you do get promoted,you will need to buy at least 7 more Premiership players,on high wages with the lowest gates in the Premier League.Hows that dimwit.
[quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Truerover85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to: 1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt) 2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers. Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.[/p][/quote]Somebody remind this tool that Venky are billion airs. Remind me how much the Burnley chairmens worth again. 56million is a drop in the ocean of money those seedy indian pirates have in their chicken coop! Also do you honestly think your few good players will stick with Burnley if you dont get premoted? Thats how football works u knobb sack![/p][/quote]So why then have they allowed you to be punished with a transfer embargo as of next season? Its called making a MASSIVE loss. You can't buy your way out of trouble any more you mug. Burnley are a well-respected, well-run, proper football club, challenging for promotion to the Premier League, something which Blackburn Rovers will never be. And we're 14 points ahead of you morons. Hows that sound?[/p][/quote]Could it be that the squad is being built up this year to offset any transfer embargo? Could it be that this squad and a few additions are going to be the squad that makes the push next season?All players knowing each others game,all young and eager. It could be a case that Rovers will not need any additions next year if they keep this squad together.You Dingles if not promoted will lose half your squad,if you do get promoted,you will need to buy at least 7 more Premiership players,on high wages with the lowest gates in the Premier League.Hows that dimwit. earwego
  • Score: 0

1:15pm Wed 22 Jan 14

azza234 says...

Chicken pluckers you go on like this embargo is a new thing out in football venky's can pay off the debt if they wanted to and when the wage bill is reduced again it wont be as bad as u think so run along and tell someone who cares maybe dingle dave will entertain u.
Chicken pluckers you go on like this embargo is a new thing out in football venky's can pay off the debt if they wanted to and when the wage bill is reduced again it wont be as bad as u think so run along and tell someone who cares maybe dingle dave will entertain u. azza234
  • Score: -2

1:21pm Wed 22 Jan 14

chicken.pluckers says...

jim 2012 wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to:
1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt)
2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers.
Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.
who do you think rovers owe the bullk of the debt to I will give you a clue
it begins with the letter V and they are billionaires
Is it a gift?

No, it's a loan. It has to be paid back.

If Venky's are so rich why don't they just write it off? Bet you can't answer that one can you Mungo?

Fool.
[quote][p][bold]jim 2012[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to: 1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt) 2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers. Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.[/p][/quote]who do you think rovers owe the bullk of the debt to I will give you a clue it begins with the letter V and they are billionaires[/p][/quote]Is it a gift? No, it's a loan. It has to be paid back. If Venky's are so rich why don't they just write it off? Bet you can't answer that one can you Mungo? Fool. chicken.pluckers
  • Score: -5

1:27pm Wed 22 Jan 14

batesempire says...

Jog on old harry to the drift shop turd moor and you might get another bargain basement striker on the cheap
Jog on old harry to the drift shop turd moor and you might get another bargain basement striker on the cheap batesempire
  • Score: -4

1:28pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Wild Rover says...

chicken.pluckers wrote:
Truerover85 wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to:
1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt)
2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers.
Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.
Somebody remind this tool that Venky are billion airs. Remind me how much the Burnley chairmens worth again. 56million is a drop in the ocean of money those seedy indian pirates have in their chicken coop!

Also do you honestly think your few good players will stick with Burnley if you dont get premoted? Thats how football works u knobb sack!
So why then have they allowed you to be punished with a transfer embargo as of next season? Its called making a MASSIVE loss. You can't buy your way out of trouble any more you mug.

Burnley are a well-respected, well-run, proper football club, challenging for promotion to the Premier League, something which Blackburn Rovers will never be.

And we're 14 points ahead of you morons. Hows that sound?
Boring, repetitive and silly actually
You are not there yet, May is when it counts...
Btw Baldric, what do you suppose will happen the 2000 million jackpot you claim you will get IF promoted...will it be spent on players or the , ermmm , stadium?
Or will BFC directors ask for a ground dispensation again?
Then trouser the dosh like last time....
Just asking Baldric, you live in a glass house too you know
Rovers on the up, Baldric edging towards panic...
See you in May
[quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Truerover85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to: 1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt) 2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers. Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.[/p][/quote]Somebody remind this tool that Venky are billion airs. Remind me how much the Burnley chairmens worth again. 56million is a drop in the ocean of money those seedy indian pirates have in their chicken coop! Also do you honestly think your few good players will stick with Burnley if you dont get premoted? Thats how football works u knobb sack![/p][/quote]So why then have they allowed you to be punished with a transfer embargo as of next season? Its called making a MASSIVE loss. You can't buy your way out of trouble any more you mug. Burnley are a well-respected, well-run, proper football club, challenging for promotion to the Premier League, something which Blackburn Rovers will never be. And we're 14 points ahead of you morons. Hows that sound?[/p][/quote]Boring, repetitive and silly actually You are not there yet, May is when it counts... Btw Baldric, what do you suppose will happen the 2000 million jackpot you claim you will get IF promoted...will it be spent on players or the , ermmm , stadium? Or will BFC directors ask for a ground dispensation again? Then trouser the dosh like last time.... Just asking Baldric, you live in a glass house too you know Rovers on the up, Baldric edging towards panic... See you in May Wild Rover
  • Score: 5

1:33pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Harwoodstblue says...

chicken.pluckers wrote:
jim 2012 wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to:
1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt)
2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers.
Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.
who do you think rovers owe the bullk of the debt to I will give you a clue
it begins with the letter V and they are billionaires
Is it a gift?

No, it's a loan. It has to be paid back.

If Venky's are so rich why don't they just write it off? Bet you can't answer that one can you Mungo?

Fool.
It's called being business savvy you fool, shrewd in other words. They won't write the debt off but use it to their own advantage.
Don't you dare ever go into business. You wouldn't last two minutes.
[quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jim 2012[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to: 1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt) 2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers. Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.[/p][/quote]who do you think rovers owe the bullk of the debt to I will give you a clue it begins with the letter V and they are billionaires[/p][/quote]Is it a gift? No, it's a loan. It has to be paid back. If Venky's are so rich why don't they just write it off? Bet you can't answer that one can you Mungo? Fool.[/p][/quote]It's called being business savvy you fool, shrewd in other words. They won't write the debt off but use it to their own advantage. Don't you dare ever go into business. You wouldn't last two minutes. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 1

1:36pm Wed 22 Jan 14

chicken.pluckers says...

Hahaha look at all these bitter b45tards wetting themselves at the thought of Jordan Rhodes leaving the sinking ship. He's going and you know it. Get those nappies on no-dad's!

Jordan Rhodes FC minus Jordan Rhodes. It's squeaky bum time.

You have a leaky sieve of a defence and when your one goal scorer moves on you will slide down that Championship table.

God help you come Derby day.
Hahaha look at all these bitter b45tards wetting themselves at the thought of Jordan Rhodes leaving the sinking ship. He's going and you know it. Get those nappies on no-dad's! Jordan Rhodes FC minus Jordan Rhodes. It's squeaky bum time. You have a leaky sieve of a defence and when your one goal scorer moves on you will slide down that Championship table. God help you come Derby day. chicken.pluckers
  • Score: -5

1:36pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Steven Seagull says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
One thing about Venkys is that they drive a hard bargain and after paying £8 mill for him they want their money back. Good for them.
We might have overpaid for Rhodes initially but that is now turning to our advantage as it's keeping the vultures at bay. There's a couple of cheap strikers down the road but I doubt they'll be good enough for Redknapp to consider.
Yes it might be keeping them at bay but if you look at the bigger picture in that Rhodes is nearly 24 now and was probably expecting to be playing PL football by now as a Blackburn player. His head will no doubt have been turned by talk of several PL teams and big championship teams showing interest. It's highly unlikely that anyone will pay £10-12 million for him so he's probably not going anywhere for at least 2 years.
Any quality player, and there's no doubt he is quality, will want to ply his trade at the top level. You might get promoted this season, who knows, but the gamble of him wanting to stay is that he may not get a crack at PL football until he's 26.

The point being if he wants to leave but can't because nobody will pay a good 3-4 million over the odds for him then he's bound to get frustrated and that may drastically effect his performance which has a knock on effect on his value.

Just a thought.
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: One thing about Venkys is that they drive a hard bargain and after paying £8 mill for him they want their money back. Good for them. We might have overpaid for Rhodes initially but that is now turning to our advantage as it's keeping the vultures at bay. There's a couple of cheap strikers down the road but I doubt they'll be good enough for Redknapp to consider.[/p][/quote]Yes it might be keeping them at bay but if you look at the bigger picture in that Rhodes is nearly 24 now and was probably expecting to be playing PL football by now as a Blackburn player. His head will no doubt have been turned by talk of several PL teams and big championship teams showing interest. It's highly unlikely that anyone will pay £10-12 million for him so he's probably not going anywhere for at least 2 years. Any quality player, and there's no doubt he is quality, will want to ply his trade at the top level. You might get promoted this season, who knows, but the gamble of him wanting to stay is that he may not get a crack at PL football until he's 26. The point being if he wants to leave but can't because nobody will pay a good 3-4 million over the odds for him then he's bound to get frustrated and that may drastically effect his performance which has a knock on effect on his value. Just a thought. Steven Seagull
  • Score: 2

1:37pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Steven Seagull says...

hasslem hasslem wrote:
has redknapp's face melted?
Must be like looking in the mirror for you.
[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: has redknapp's face melted?[/p][/quote]Must be like looking in the mirror for you. Steven Seagull
  • Score: 4

1:39pm Wed 22 Jan 14

bburnrover says...

7 million and Chalie Austin would do it for me.
7 million and Chalie Austin would do it for me. bburnrover
  • Score: 0

1:39pm Wed 22 Jan 14

owd nick says...

Lancs - pensioner wrote:
I think it would be the final nail in the coffin for the Venkys if they sold Rhodes, having said that I believe he will stay at least until the summer.
Keep going GB it's a tough journey and there are potholes along the way but your doing very well so far.
Why would it be Venky's fault?

If Venky's hadn't bought him we wouldn't be having this twice annual discussion.

If Rhodes decides he wants to leave and QPR or for that matter anyone else came in with the right offer Venky's won't have a choice.

Players still have the upper hand at the moment and it's obvious QPR have made an enquiry and been told where to go, all "Arry" is doing is making it be known publicly that he is interested.

It's how Rhodes reacts to that that matters.

Things will change a little when Fair Play kicks in because the majority of clubs will be limited to what they can spend on and more importantly pay to players and agents.

And because of that there will be a lot more players at all levels out of work looking for contracts.

Rhodes has done a good job for us but so have many players in the past and we replaced them with fresh talent when they left, if or when he goes I won't pretend that I won't be a tad upset, but I won't be crying in my cups either.
[quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: I think it would be the final nail in the coffin for the Venkys if they sold Rhodes, having said that I believe he will stay at least until the summer. Keep going GB it's a tough journey and there are potholes along the way but your doing very well so far.[/p][/quote]Why would it be Venky's fault? If Venky's hadn't bought him we wouldn't be having this twice annual discussion. If Rhodes decides he wants to leave and QPR or for that matter anyone else came in with the right offer Venky's won't have a choice. Players still have the upper hand at the moment and it's obvious QPR have made an enquiry and been told where to go, all "Arry" is doing is making it be known publicly that he is interested. It's how Rhodes reacts to that that matters. Things will change a little when Fair Play kicks in because the majority of clubs will be limited to what they can spend on and more importantly pay to players and agents. And because of that there will be a lot more players at all levels out of work looking for contracts. Rhodes has done a good job for us but so have many players in the past and we replaced them with fresh talent when they left, if or when he goes I won't pretend that I won't be a tad upset, but I won't be crying in my cups either. owd nick
  • Score: 2

1:39pm Wed 22 Jan 14

chicken.pluckers says...

earwego wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
Truerover85 wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to:
1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt)
2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers.
Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.
Somebody remind this tool that Venky are billion airs. Remind me how much the Burnley chairmens worth again. 56million is a drop in the ocean of money those seedy indian pirates have in their chicken coop!

Also do you honestly think your few good players will stick with Burnley if you dont get premoted? Thats how football works u knobb sack!
So why then have they allowed you to be punished with a transfer embargo as of next season? Its called making a MASSIVE loss. You can't buy your way out of trouble any more you mug.

Burnley are a well-respected, well-run, proper football club, challenging for promotion to the Premier League, something which Blackburn Rovers will never be.

And we're 14 points ahead of you morons. Hows that sound?
Could it be that the squad is being built up this year to offset any transfer embargo? Could it be that this squad and a few additions are going to be the squad that makes the push next season?All players knowing each others game,all young and eager. It could be a case that Rovers will not need any additions next year if they keep this squad together.You Dingles if not promoted will lose half your squad,if you do get promoted,you will need to buy at least 7 more Premiership players,on high wages with the lowest gates in the Premier League.Hows that dimwit.
A Blackburn Rovers fan saying of Burnley "If you do get promoted...."

At least its sinking in for some of you morons finally.

Burnley FC could go up this season, while Blackburn Rovers, debt-ridden, embarrassment of a club teeter on the brink of financial meltdown.

14 points dimwit. Hows that sound?
[quote][p][bold]earwego[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Truerover85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to: 1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt) 2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers. Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.[/p][/quote]Somebody remind this tool that Venky are billion airs. Remind me how much the Burnley chairmens worth again. 56million is a drop in the ocean of money those seedy indian pirates have in their chicken coop! Also do you honestly think your few good players will stick with Burnley if you dont get premoted? Thats how football works u knobb sack![/p][/quote]So why then have they allowed you to be punished with a transfer embargo as of next season? Its called making a MASSIVE loss. You can't buy your way out of trouble any more you mug. Burnley are a well-respected, well-run, proper football club, challenging for promotion to the Premier League, something which Blackburn Rovers will never be. And we're 14 points ahead of you morons. Hows that sound?[/p][/quote]Could it be that the squad is being built up this year to offset any transfer embargo? Could it be that this squad and a few additions are going to be the squad that makes the push next season?All players knowing each others game,all young and eager. It could be a case that Rovers will not need any additions next year if they keep this squad together.You Dingles if not promoted will lose half your squad,if you do get promoted,you will need to buy at least 7 more Premiership players,on high wages with the lowest gates in the Premier League.Hows that dimwit.[/p][/quote]A Blackburn Rovers fan saying of Burnley "If you do get promoted...." At least its sinking in for some of you morons finally. Burnley FC could go up this season, while Blackburn Rovers, debt-ridden, embarrassment of a club teeter on the brink of financial meltdown. 14 points dimwit. Hows that sound? chicken.pluckers
  • Score: 2

1:41pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Steven Seagull says...

Truerover85 wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to:
1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt)
2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers.
Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.
Somebody remind this tool that Venky are billion airs. Remind me how much the Burnley chairmens worth again. 56million is a drop in the ocean of money those seedy indian pirates have in their chicken coop!

Also do you honestly think your few good players will stick with Burnley if you dont get premoted? Thats how football works u knobb sack!
If these billionaires are that serious about your crumbling club then why aren't Ronaldo and Messi playing for you then?
[quote][p][bold]Truerover85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to: 1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt) 2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers. Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.[/p][/quote]Somebody remind this tool that Venky are billion airs. Remind me how much the Burnley chairmens worth again. 56million is a drop in the ocean of money those seedy indian pirates have in their chicken coop! Also do you honestly think your few good players will stick with Burnley if you dont get premoted? Thats how football works u knobb sack![/p][/quote]If these billionaires are that serious about your crumbling club then why aren't Ronaldo and Messi playing for you then? Steven Seagull
  • Score: 0

1:41pm Wed 22 Jan 14

jim 2012 says...

chicken.pluckers wrote:
Truerover85 wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to:
1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt)
2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers.
Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.
Somebody remind this tool that Venky are billion airs. Remind me how much the Burnley chairmens worth again. 56million is a drop in the ocean of money those seedy indian pirates have in their chicken coop!

Also do you honestly think your few good players will stick with Burnley if you dont get premoted? Thats how football works u knobb sack!
So why then have they allowed you to be punished with a transfer embargo as of next season? Its called making a MASSIVE loss. You can't buy your way out of trouble any more you mug.

Burnley are a well-respected, well-run, proper football club, challenging for promotion to the Premier League, something which Blackburn Rovers will never be.

And we're 14 points ahead of you morons. Hows that sound?
the transfer embargo will begin on the first of january 2015
it will only apply to clubs that can't inject equity in there club
to cover any loss over £ 3 to £8 million
the ffp rules do not cover a football clubs debt
if it did over half of the premier league clubs who'd be out of business
[quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Truerover85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to: 1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt) 2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers. Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.[/p][/quote]Somebody remind this tool that Venky are billion airs. Remind me how much the Burnley chairmens worth again. 56million is a drop in the ocean of money those seedy indian pirates have in their chicken coop! Also do you honestly think your few good players will stick with Burnley if you dont get premoted? Thats how football works u knobb sack![/p][/quote]So why then have they allowed you to be punished with a transfer embargo as of next season? Its called making a MASSIVE loss. You can't buy your way out of trouble any more you mug. Burnley are a well-respected, well-run, proper football club, challenging for promotion to the Premier League, something which Blackburn Rovers will never be. And we're 14 points ahead of you morons. Hows that sound?[/p][/quote]the transfer embargo will begin on the first of january 2015 it will only apply to clubs that can't inject equity in there club to cover any loss over £ 3 to £8 million the ffp rules do not cover a football clubs debt if it did over half of the premier league clubs who'd be out of business jim 2012
  • Score: -2

1:42pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Steven Seagull says...

jim 2012 wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to:
1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt)
2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers.
Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.
who do you think rovers owe the bullk of the debt to I will give you a clue
it begins with the letter V and they are billionaires
Venezuela?
[quote][p][bold]jim 2012[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to: 1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt) 2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers. Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.[/p][/quote]who do you think rovers owe the bullk of the debt to I will give you a clue it begins with the letter V and they are billionaires[/p][/quote]Venezuela? Steven Seagull
  • Score: 1

1:48pm Wed 22 Jan 14

earwego says...

chicken.pluckers wrote:
earwego wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
Truerover85 wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to:
1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt)
2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers.
Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.
Somebody remind this tool that Venky are billion airs. Remind me how much the Burnley chairmens worth again. 56million is a drop in the ocean of money those seedy indian pirates have in their chicken coop!

Also do you honestly think your few good players will stick with Burnley if you dont get premoted? Thats how football works u knobb sack!
So why then have they allowed you to be punished with a transfer embargo as of next season? Its called making a MASSIVE loss. You can't buy your way out of trouble any more you mug.

Burnley are a well-respected, well-run, proper football club, challenging for promotion to the Premier League, something which Blackburn Rovers will never be.

And we're 14 points ahead of you morons. Hows that sound?
Could it be that the squad is being built up this year to offset any transfer embargo? Could it be that this squad and a few additions are going to be the squad that makes the push next season?All players knowing each others game,all young and eager. It could be a case that Rovers will not need any additions next year if they keep this squad together.You Dingles if not promoted will lose half your squad,if you do get promoted,you will need to buy at least 7 more Premiership players,on high wages with the lowest gates in the Premier League.Hows that dimwit.
A Blackburn Rovers fan saying of Burnley "If you do get promoted...."

At least its sinking in for some of you morons finally.

Burnley FC could go up this season, while Blackburn Rovers, debt-ridden, embarrassment of a club teeter on the brink of financial meltdown.

14 points dimwit. Hows that sound?
14 points will mean nothing if we both meet in the play-offs.moron
[quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]earwego[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Truerover85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to: 1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt) 2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers. Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.[/p][/quote]Somebody remind this tool that Venky are billion airs. Remind me how much the Burnley chairmens worth again. 56million is a drop in the ocean of money those seedy indian pirates have in their chicken coop! Also do you honestly think your few good players will stick with Burnley if you dont get premoted? Thats how football works u knobb sack![/p][/quote]So why then have they allowed you to be punished with a transfer embargo as of next season? Its called making a MASSIVE loss. You can't buy your way out of trouble any more you mug. Burnley are a well-respected, well-run, proper football club, challenging for promotion to the Premier League, something which Blackburn Rovers will never be. And we're 14 points ahead of you morons. Hows that sound?[/p][/quote]Could it be that the squad is being built up this year to offset any transfer embargo? Could it be that this squad and a few additions are going to be the squad that makes the push next season?All players knowing each others game,all young and eager. It could be a case that Rovers will not need any additions next year if they keep this squad together.You Dingles if not promoted will lose half your squad,if you do get promoted,you will need to buy at least 7 more Premiership players,on high wages with the lowest gates in the Premier League.Hows that dimwit.[/p][/quote]A Blackburn Rovers fan saying of Burnley "If you do get promoted...." At least its sinking in for some of you morons finally. Burnley FC could go up this season, while Blackburn Rovers, debt-ridden, embarrassment of a club teeter on the brink of financial meltdown. 14 points dimwit. Hows that sound?[/p][/quote]14 points will mean nothing if we both meet in the play-offs.moron earwego
  • Score: 0

2:01pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Harwoodstblue says...

Steven Seagull wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
One thing about Venkys is that they drive a hard bargain and after paying £8 mill for him they want their money back. Good for them.
We might have overpaid for Rhodes initially but that is now turning to our advantage as it's keeping the vultures at bay. There's a couple of cheap strikers down the road but I doubt they'll be good enough for Redknapp to consider.
Yes it might be keeping them at bay but if you look at the bigger picture in that Rhodes is nearly 24 now and was probably expecting to be playing PL football by now as a Blackburn player. His head will no doubt have been turned by talk of several PL teams and big championship teams showing interest. It's highly unlikely that anyone will pay £10-12 million for him so he's probably not going anywhere for at least 2 years.
Any quality player, and there's no doubt he is quality, will want to ply his trade at the top level. You might get promoted this season, who knows, but the gamble of him wanting to stay is that he may not get a crack at PL football until he's 26.

The point being if he wants to leave but can't because nobody will pay a good 3-4 million over the odds for him then he's bound to get frustrated and that may drastically effect his performance which has a knock on effect on his value.

Just a thought.
Not a Rover are you. Let me guess, a Dingle?
Rhodes has just said today he's happy at Rovers and who wouldn't be on his money. Rhodes is still here because most Rovers fans recognise that he's not yet the finished article, hence no bids. If we can see it I'm sure the football world can also.
If and when Rhodes is deemed good enough for the Prem and a suitable offer comes in, being ambitious as he is, he will probably go. No one needs to tell us that, but that goes for all players at every club, including yours.
[quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: One thing about Venkys is that they drive a hard bargain and after paying £8 mill for him they want their money back. Good for them. We might have overpaid for Rhodes initially but that is now turning to our advantage as it's keeping the vultures at bay. There's a couple of cheap strikers down the road but I doubt they'll be good enough for Redknapp to consider.[/p][/quote]Yes it might be keeping them at bay but if you look at the bigger picture in that Rhodes is nearly 24 now and was probably expecting to be playing PL football by now as a Blackburn player. His head will no doubt have been turned by talk of several PL teams and big championship teams showing interest. It's highly unlikely that anyone will pay £10-12 million for him so he's probably not going anywhere for at least 2 years. Any quality player, and there's no doubt he is quality, will want to ply his trade at the top level. You might get promoted this season, who knows, but the gamble of him wanting to stay is that he may not get a crack at PL football until he's 26. The point being if he wants to leave but can't because nobody will pay a good 3-4 million over the odds for him then he's bound to get frustrated and that may drastically effect his performance which has a knock on effect on his value. Just a thought.[/p][/quote]Not a Rover are you. Let me guess, a Dingle? Rhodes has just said today he's happy at Rovers and who wouldn't be on his money. Rhodes is still here because most Rovers fans recognise that he's not yet the finished article, hence no bids. If we can see it I'm sure the football world can also. If and when Rhodes is deemed good enough for the Prem and a suitable offer comes in, being ambitious as he is, he will probably go. No one needs to tell us that, but that goes for all players at every club, including yours. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 0

2:11pm Wed 22 Jan 14

hasslem hasslem says...

and yet another new dingle name emerges on these pages with the (half) witty moniker of seagull.

is there no beginning to a dingles' talents?

why do they bother? it's not as if they have anything funny, entertaining, insightful or constructive to say. they are gripless voids.
and yet another new dingle name emerges on these pages with the (half) witty moniker of seagull. is there no beginning to a dingles' talents? why do they bother? it's not as if they have anything funny, entertaining, insightful or constructive to say. they are gripless voids. hasslem hasslem
  • Score: -2

2:33pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Lancs - pensioner says...

owd nick wrote:
Lancs - pensioner wrote:
I think it would be the final nail in the coffin for the Venkys if they sold Rhodes, having said that I believe he will stay at least until the summer.
Keep going GB it's a tough journey and there are potholes along the way but your doing very well so far.
Why would it be Venky's fault?

If Venky's hadn't bought him we wouldn't be having this twice annual discussion.

If Rhodes decides he wants to leave and QPR or for that matter anyone else came in with the right offer Venky's won't have a choice.

Players still have the upper hand at the moment and it's obvious QPR have made an enquiry and been told where to go, all "Arry" is doing is making it be known publicly that he is interested.

It's how Rhodes reacts to that that matters.

Things will change a little when Fair Play kicks in because the majority of clubs will be limited to what they can spend on and more importantly pay to players and agents.

And because of that there will be a lot more players at all levels out of work looking for contracts.

Rhodes has done a good job for us but so have many players in the past and we replaced them with fresh talent when they left, if or when he goes I won't pretend that I won't be a tad upset, but I won't be crying in my cups either.
Hi Nick, I was just making the point the Venkys in recent times have seemed to have learnt some hard lessons, managers and agents ripping them off but your right if a player wants to go he will eventually get his way, Rhodes however has stated he is happy, especially going into top class facility's down at Brockhall every day (unlike Gawthorpe) and he seems a level headed chap, I think if Venkys want to make a killing on him they will wait till the summer.
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: I think it would be the final nail in the coffin for the Venkys if they sold Rhodes, having said that I believe he will stay at least until the summer. Keep going GB it's a tough journey and there are potholes along the way but your doing very well so far.[/p][/quote]Why would it be Venky's fault? If Venky's hadn't bought him we wouldn't be having this twice annual discussion. If Rhodes decides he wants to leave and QPR or for that matter anyone else came in with the right offer Venky's won't have a choice. Players still have the upper hand at the moment and it's obvious QPR have made an enquiry and been told where to go, all "Arry" is doing is making it be known publicly that he is interested. It's how Rhodes reacts to that that matters. Things will change a little when Fair Play kicks in because the majority of clubs will be limited to what they can spend on and more importantly pay to players and agents. And because of that there will be a lot more players at all levels out of work looking for contracts. Rhodes has done a good job for us but so have many players in the past and we replaced them with fresh talent when they left, if or when he goes I won't pretend that I won't be a tad upset, but I won't be crying in my cups either.[/p][/quote]Hi Nick, I was just making the point the Venkys in recent times have seemed to have learnt some hard lessons, managers and agents ripping them off but your right if a player wants to go he will eventually get his way, Rhodes however has stated he is happy, especially going into top class facility's down at Brockhall every day (unlike Gawthorpe) and he seems a level headed chap, I think if Venkys want to make a killing on him they will wait till the summer. Lancs - pensioner
  • Score: -1

2:40pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Harwoodstblue says...

chicken.pluckers wrote:
earwego wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
Truerover85 wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to:
1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt)
2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers.
Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.
Somebody remind this tool that Venky are billion airs. Remind me how much the Burnley chairmens worth again. 56million is a drop in the ocean of money those seedy indian pirates have in their chicken coop!

Also do you honestly think your few good players will stick with Burnley if you dont get premoted? Thats how football works u knobb sack!
So why then have they allowed you to be punished with a transfer embargo as of next season? Its called making a MASSIVE loss. You can't buy your way out of trouble any more you mug.

Burnley are a well-respected, well-run, proper football club, challenging for promotion to the Premier League, something which Blackburn Rovers will never be.

And we're 14 points ahead of you morons. Hows that sound?
Could it be that the squad is being built up this year to offset any transfer embargo? Could it be that this squad and a few additions are going to be the squad that makes the push next season?All players knowing each others game,all young and eager. It could be a case that Rovers will not need any additions next year if they keep this squad together.You Dingles if not promoted will lose half your squad,if you do get promoted,you will need to buy at least 7 more Premiership players,on high wages with the lowest gates in the Premier League.Hows that dimwit.
A Blackburn Rovers fan saying of Burnley "If you do get promoted...."

At least its sinking in for some of you morons finally.

Burnley FC could go up this season, while Blackburn Rovers, debt-ridden, embarrassment of a club teeter on the brink of financial meltdown.

14 points dimwit. Hows that sound?
You can't afford to go up off your gates. Imagine trying to pay Premiership wages of crowds of less than 20,000.
Straight back down and more embarrassment and ridicule for the Premiership whipping boys...........don't bother dimwit..
[quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]earwego[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Truerover85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to: 1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt) 2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers. Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.[/p][/quote]Somebody remind this tool that Venky are billion airs. Remind me how much the Burnley chairmens worth again. 56million is a drop in the ocean of money those seedy indian pirates have in their chicken coop! Also do you honestly think your few good players will stick with Burnley if you dont get premoted? Thats how football works u knobb sack![/p][/quote]So why then have they allowed you to be punished with a transfer embargo as of next season? Its called making a MASSIVE loss. You can't buy your way out of trouble any more you mug. Burnley are a well-respected, well-run, proper football club, challenging for promotion to the Premier League, something which Blackburn Rovers will never be. And we're 14 points ahead of you morons. Hows that sound?[/p][/quote]Could it be that the squad is being built up this year to offset any transfer embargo? Could it be that this squad and a few additions are going to be the squad that makes the push next season?All players knowing each others game,all young and eager. It could be a case that Rovers will not need any additions next year if they keep this squad together.You Dingles if not promoted will lose half your squad,if you do get promoted,you will need to buy at least 7 more Premiership players,on high wages with the lowest gates in the Premier League.Hows that dimwit.[/p][/quote]A Blackburn Rovers fan saying of Burnley "If you do get promoted...." At least its sinking in for some of you morons finally. Burnley FC could go up this season, while Blackburn Rovers, debt-ridden, embarrassment of a club teeter on the brink of financial meltdown. 14 points dimwit. Hows that sound?[/p][/quote]You can't afford to go up off your gates. Imagine trying to pay Premiership wages of crowds of less than 20,000. Straight back down and more embarrassment and ridicule for the Premiership whipping boys...........don't bother dimwit.. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: -5

2:46pm Wed 22 Jan 14

chicken.pluckers says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
jim 2012 wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to:
1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt)
2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers.
Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.
who do you think rovers owe the bullk of the debt to I will give you a clue
it begins with the letter V and they are billionaires
Is it a gift?

No, it's a loan. It has to be paid back.

If Venky's are so rich why don't they just write it off? Bet you can't answer that one can you Mungo?

Fool.
It's called being business savvy you fool, shrewd in other words. They won't write the debt off but use it to their own advantage.
Don't you dare ever go into business. You wouldn't last two minutes.
Please explain how they are using a loss making enterprise to their own advantage? How is having a net debt of £56 million from a business you bought 3 years ago for £23 million, in any way positive?

How you seen the state of Venky's share price in recent years?

Suggest you wind your neck as you are looking very silly indeed right now.
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jim 2012[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to: 1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt) 2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers. Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.[/p][/quote]who do you think rovers owe the bullk of the debt to I will give you a clue it begins with the letter V and they are billionaires[/p][/quote]Is it a gift? No, it's a loan. It has to be paid back. If Venky's are so rich why don't they just write it off? Bet you can't answer that one can you Mungo? Fool.[/p][/quote]It's called being business savvy you fool, shrewd in other words. They won't write the debt off but use it to their own advantage. Don't you dare ever go into business. You wouldn't last two minutes.[/p][/quote]Please explain how they are using a loss making enterprise to their own advantage? How is having a net debt of £56 million from a business you bought 3 years ago for £23 million, in any way positive? How you seen the state of Venky's share price in recent years? Suggest you wind your neck as you are looking very silly indeed right now. chicken.pluckers
  • Score: 3

3:44pm Wed 22 Jan 14

baz58 says...

earwego wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
Truerover85 wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to:
1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt)
2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers.
Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.
Somebody remind this tool that Venky are billion airs. Remind me how much the Burnley chairmens worth again. 56million is a drop in the ocean of money those seedy indian pirates have in their chicken coop!

Also do you honestly think your few good players will stick with Burnley if you dont get premoted? Thats how football works u knobb sack!
So why then have they allowed you to be punished with a transfer embargo as of next season? Its called making a MASSIVE loss. You can't buy your way out of trouble any more you mug.

Burnley are a well-respected, well-run, proper football club, challenging for promotion to the Premier League, something which Blackburn Rovers will never be.

And we're 14 points ahead of you morons. Hows that sound?
Could it be that the squad is being built up this year to offset any transfer embargo? Could it be that this squad and a few additions are going to be the squad that makes the push next season?All players knowing each others game,all young and eager. It could be a case that Rovers will not need any additions next year if they keep this squad together.You Dingles if not promoted will lose half your squad,if you do get promoted,you will need to buy at least 7 more Premiership players,on high wages with the lowest gates in the Premier League.Hows that dimwit.
And then they will come straight back down, remember the last time they had a crack at the premier league, totally laughable, even though they showed East Lancs football up. Football in the North West had a good reputation....then burnley got promoted and ruined all the good work Blackburn had done in all those previous years.
[quote][p][bold]earwego[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Truerover85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to: 1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt) 2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers. Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.[/p][/quote]Somebody remind this tool that Venky are billion airs. Remind me how much the Burnley chairmens worth again. 56million is a drop in the ocean of money those seedy indian pirates have in their chicken coop! Also do you honestly think your few good players will stick with Burnley if you dont get premoted? Thats how football works u knobb sack![/p][/quote]So why then have they allowed you to be punished with a transfer embargo as of next season? Its called making a MASSIVE loss. You can't buy your way out of trouble any more you mug. Burnley are a well-respected, well-run, proper football club, challenging for promotion to the Premier League, something which Blackburn Rovers will never be. And we're 14 points ahead of you morons. Hows that sound?[/p][/quote]Could it be that the squad is being built up this year to offset any transfer embargo? Could it be that this squad and a few additions are going to be the squad that makes the push next season?All players knowing each others game,all young and eager. It could be a case that Rovers will not need any additions next year if they keep this squad together.You Dingles if not promoted will lose half your squad,if you do get promoted,you will need to buy at least 7 more Premiership players,on high wages with the lowest gates in the Premier League.Hows that dimwit.[/p][/quote]And then they will come straight back down, remember the last time they had a crack at the premier league, totally laughable, even though they showed East Lancs football up. Football in the North West had a good reputation....then burnley got promoted and ruined all the good work Blackburn had done in all those previous years. baz58
  • Score: -5

4:05pm Wed 22 Jan 14

RobH2O says...

Well, one has to say fair play to the Rovers Hierarchy on this. There is an argument that says release him, bank the money, go into the market and bring in someone somewhat cheaper and develop them. Especially so with FFP coming and pressure to sell at maybe a lesser price in the summer.

It shows some solid ambition.
Well, one has to say fair play to the Rovers Hierarchy on this. There is an argument that says release him, bank the money, go into the market and bring in someone somewhat cheaper and develop them. Especially so with FFP coming and pressure to sell at maybe a lesser price in the summer. It shows some solid ambition. RobH2O
  • Score: 5

4:25pm Wed 22 Jan 14

dangerous dave says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
jim 2012 wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to:
1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt)
2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers.
Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.
who do you think rovers owe the bullk of the debt to I will give you a clue
it begins with the letter V and they are billionaires
Is it a gift?

No, it's a loan. It has to be paid back.

If Venky's are so rich why don't they just write it off? Bet you can't answer that one can you Mungo?

Fool.
It's called being business savvy you fool, shrewd in other words. They won't write the debt off but use it to their own advantage.
Don't you dare ever go into business. You wouldn't last two minutes.
its obvious you dont understand the fundamentals about business either so stay on the PAYE it will suit you better!!
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jim 2012[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to: 1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt) 2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers. Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.[/p][/quote]who do you think rovers owe the bullk of the debt to I will give you a clue it begins with the letter V and they are billionaires[/p][/quote]Is it a gift? No, it's a loan. It has to be paid back. If Venky's are so rich why don't they just write it off? Bet you can't answer that one can you Mungo? Fool.[/p][/quote]It's called being business savvy you fool, shrewd in other words. They won't write the debt off but use it to their own advantage. Don't you dare ever go into business. You wouldn't last two minutes.[/p][/quote]its obvious you dont understand the fundamentals about business either so stay on the PAYE it will suit you better!! OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS dangerous dave
  • Score: 5

4:33pm Wed 22 Jan 14

chicken.pluckers says...

earwego wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
earwego wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
Truerover85 wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to:
1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt)
2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers.
Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.
Somebody remind this tool that Venky are billion airs. Remind me how much the Burnley chairmens worth again. 56million is a drop in the ocean of money those seedy indian pirates have in their chicken coop!

Also do you honestly think your few good players will stick with Burnley if you dont get premoted? Thats how football works u knobb sack!
So why then have they allowed you to be punished with a transfer embargo as of next season? Its called making a MASSIVE loss. You can't buy your way out of trouble any more you mug.

Burnley are a well-respected, well-run, proper football club, challenging for promotion to the Premier League, something which Blackburn Rovers will never be.

And we're 14 points ahead of you morons. Hows that sound?
Could it be that the squad is being built up this year to offset any transfer embargo? Could it be that this squad and a few additions are going to be the squad that makes the push next season?All players knowing each others game,all young and eager. It could be a case that Rovers will not need any additions next year if they keep this squad together.You Dingles if not promoted will lose half your squad,if you do get promoted,you will need to buy at least 7 more Premiership players,on high wages with the lowest gates in the Premier League.Hows that dimwit.
A Blackburn Rovers fan saying of Burnley "If you do get promoted...."

At least its sinking in for some of you morons finally.

Burnley FC could go up this season, while Blackburn Rovers, debt-ridden, embarrassment of a club teeter on the brink of financial meltdown.

14 points dimwit. Hows that sound?
14 points will mean nothing if we both meet in the play-offs.moron
Same old no-dad's always dreaming.

14 points is FACT.
Blackburn Rovers reaching the play-off's is FANTASY.

Get over it Mungo.
[quote][p][bold]earwego[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]earwego[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Truerover85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to: 1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt) 2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers. Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.[/p][/quote]Somebody remind this tool that Venky are billion airs. Remind me how much the Burnley chairmens worth again. 56million is a drop in the ocean of money those seedy indian pirates have in their chicken coop! Also do you honestly think your few good players will stick with Burnley if you dont get premoted? Thats how football works u knobb sack![/p][/quote]So why then have they allowed you to be punished with a transfer embargo as of next season? Its called making a MASSIVE loss. You can't buy your way out of trouble any more you mug. Burnley are a well-respected, well-run, proper football club, challenging for promotion to the Premier League, something which Blackburn Rovers will never be. And we're 14 points ahead of you morons. Hows that sound?[/p][/quote]Could it be that the squad is being built up this year to offset any transfer embargo? Could it be that this squad and a few additions are going to be the squad that makes the push next season?All players knowing each others game,all young and eager. It could be a case that Rovers will not need any additions next year if they keep this squad together.You Dingles if not promoted will lose half your squad,if you do get promoted,you will need to buy at least 7 more Premiership players,on high wages with the lowest gates in the Premier League.Hows that dimwit.[/p][/quote]A Blackburn Rovers fan saying of Burnley "If you do get promoted...." At least its sinking in for some of you morons finally. Burnley FC could go up this season, while Blackburn Rovers, debt-ridden, embarrassment of a club teeter on the brink of financial meltdown. 14 points dimwit. Hows that sound?[/p][/quote]14 points will mean nothing if we both meet in the play-offs.moron[/p][/quote]Same old no-dad's always dreaming. 14 points is FACT. Blackburn Rovers reaching the play-off's is FANTASY. Get over it Mungo. chicken.pluckers
  • Score: 2

4:35pm Wed 22 Jan 14

owd nick says...

Lancs - pensioner wrote:
owd nick wrote:
Lancs - pensioner wrote:
I think it would be the final nail in the coffin for the Venkys if they sold Rhodes, having said that I believe he will stay at least until the summer.
Keep going GB it's a tough journey and there are potholes along the way but your doing very well so far.
Why would it be Venky's fault?

If Venky's hadn't bought him we wouldn't be having this twice annual discussion.

If Rhodes decides he wants to leave and QPR or for that matter anyone else came in with the right offer Venky's won't have a choice.

Players still have the upper hand at the moment and it's obvious QPR have made an enquiry and been told where to go, all "Arry" is doing is making it be known publicly that he is interested.

It's how Rhodes reacts to that that matters.

Things will change a little when Fair Play kicks in because the majority of clubs will be limited to what they can spend on and more importantly pay to players and agents.

And because of that there will be a lot more players at all levels out of work looking for contracts.

Rhodes has done a good job for us but so have many players in the past and we replaced them with fresh talent when they left, if or when he goes I won't pretend that I won't be a tad upset, but I won't be crying in my cups either.
Hi Nick, I was just making the point the Venkys in recent times have seemed to have learnt some hard lessons, managers and agents ripping them off but your right if a player wants to go he will eventually get his way, Rhodes however has stated he is happy, especially going into top class facility's down at Brockhall every day (unlike Gawthorpe) and he seems a level headed chap, I think if Venkys want to make a killing on him they will wait till the summer.
Good I hadn't heard the Rhodes comment, pretty similar to comments he has made in the last two windows.
[quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: I think it would be the final nail in the coffin for the Venkys if they sold Rhodes, having said that I believe he will stay at least until the summer. Keep going GB it's a tough journey and there are potholes along the way but your doing very well so far.[/p][/quote]Why would it be Venky's fault? If Venky's hadn't bought him we wouldn't be having this twice annual discussion. If Rhodes decides he wants to leave and QPR or for that matter anyone else came in with the right offer Venky's won't have a choice. Players still have the upper hand at the moment and it's obvious QPR have made an enquiry and been told where to go, all "Arry" is doing is making it be known publicly that he is interested. It's how Rhodes reacts to that that matters. Things will change a little when Fair Play kicks in because the majority of clubs will be limited to what they can spend on and more importantly pay to players and agents. And because of that there will be a lot more players at all levels out of work looking for contracts. Rhodes has done a good job for us but so have many players in the past and we replaced them with fresh talent when they left, if or when he goes I won't pretend that I won't be a tad upset, but I won't be crying in my cups either.[/p][/quote]Hi Nick, I was just making the point the Venkys in recent times have seemed to have learnt some hard lessons, managers and agents ripping them off but your right if a player wants to go he will eventually get his way, Rhodes however has stated he is happy, especially going into top class facility's down at Brockhall every day (unlike Gawthorpe) and he seems a level headed chap, I think if Venkys want to make a killing on him they will wait till the summer.[/p][/quote]Good I hadn't heard the Rhodes comment, pretty similar to comments he has made in the last two windows. owd nick
  • Score: -1

4:49pm Wed 22 Jan 14

jim 2012 says...

chicken.pluckers wrote:
jim 2012 wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to:
1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt)
2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers.
Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.
who do you think rovers owe the bullk of the debt to I will give you a clue
it begins with the letter V and they are billionaires
Is it a gift?

No, it's a loan. It has to be paid back.

If Venky's are so rich why don't they just write it off? Bet you can't answer that one can you Mungo?

Fool.
you can if you are clever off set a debt against your tax liability
[quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jim 2012[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to: 1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt) 2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers. Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.[/p][/quote]who do you think rovers owe the bullk of the debt to I will give you a clue it begins with the letter V and they are billionaires[/p][/quote]Is it a gift? No, it's a loan. It has to be paid back. If Venky's are so rich why don't they just write it off? Bet you can't answer that one can you Mungo? Fool.[/p][/quote]you can if you are clever off set a debt against your tax liability jim 2012
  • Score: 0

4:58pm Wed 22 Jan 14

jim 2012 says...

chicken.pluckers wrote:
earwego wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
earwego wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
Truerover85 wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to:
1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt)
2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers.
Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.
Somebody remind this tool that Venky are billion airs. Remind me how much the Burnley chairmens worth again. 56million is a drop in the ocean of money those seedy indian pirates have in their chicken coop!

Also do you honestly think your few good players will stick with Burnley if you dont get premoted? Thats how football works u knobb sack!
So why then have they allowed you to be punished with a transfer embargo as of next season? Its called making a MASSIVE loss. You can't buy your way out of trouble any more you mug.

Burnley are a well-respected, well-run, proper football club, challenging for promotion to the Premier League, something which Blackburn Rovers will never be.

And we're 14 points ahead of you morons. Hows that sound?
Could it be that the squad is being built up this year to offset any transfer embargo? Could it be that this squad and a few additions are going to be the squad that makes the push next season?All players knowing each others game,all young and eager. It could be a case that Rovers will not need any additions next year if they keep this squad together.You Dingles if not promoted will lose half your squad,if you do get promoted,you will need to buy at least 7 more Premiership players,on high wages with the lowest gates in the Premier League.Hows that dimwit.
A Blackburn Rovers fan saying of Burnley "If you do get promoted...."

At least its sinking in for some of you morons finally.

Burnley FC could go up this season, while Blackburn Rovers, debt-ridden, embarrassment of a club teeter on the brink of financial meltdown.

14 points dimwit. Hows that sound?
14 points will mean nothing if we both meet in the play-offs.moron
Same old no-dad's always dreaming.

14 points is FACT.
Blackburn Rovers reaching the play-off's is FANTASY.

Get over it Mungo.
a 14 point gap wil be of no use to you if you end up in the playoffs FACT
[quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]earwego[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]earwego[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Truerover85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to: 1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt) 2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers. Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.[/p][/quote]Somebody remind this tool that Venky are billion airs. Remind me how much the Burnley chairmens worth again. 56million is a drop in the ocean of money those seedy indian pirates have in their chicken coop! Also do you honestly think your few good players will stick with Burnley if you dont get premoted? Thats how football works u knobb sack![/p][/quote]So why then have they allowed you to be punished with a transfer embargo as of next season? Its called making a MASSIVE loss. You can't buy your way out of trouble any more you mug. Burnley are a well-respected, well-run, proper football club, challenging for promotion to the Premier League, something which Blackburn Rovers will never be. And we're 14 points ahead of you morons. Hows that sound?[/p][/quote]Could it be that the squad is being built up this year to offset any transfer embargo? Could it be that this squad and a few additions are going to be the squad that makes the push next season?All players knowing each others game,all young and eager. It could be a case that Rovers will not need any additions next year if they keep this squad together.You Dingles if not promoted will lose half your squad,if you do get promoted,you will need to buy at least 7 more Premiership players,on high wages with the lowest gates in the Premier League.Hows that dimwit.[/p][/quote]A Blackburn Rovers fan saying of Burnley "If you do get promoted...." At least its sinking in for some of you morons finally. Burnley FC could go up this season, while Blackburn Rovers, debt-ridden, embarrassment of a club teeter on the brink of financial meltdown. 14 points dimwit. Hows that sound?[/p][/quote]14 points will mean nothing if we both meet in the play-offs.moron[/p][/quote]Same old no-dad's always dreaming. 14 points is FACT. Blackburn Rovers reaching the play-off's is FANTASY. Get over it Mungo.[/p][/quote]a 14 point gap wil be of no use to you if you end up in the playoffs FACT jim 2012
  • Score: 0

5:02pm Wed 22 Jan 14

jim 2012 says...

Steven Seagull wrote:
jim 2012 wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to:
1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt)
2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers.
Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.
who do you think rovers owe the bullk of the debt to I will give you a clue
it begins with the letter V and they are billionaires
Venezuela?
DOINT YOU JUST LOVE UM
stupid is as stupid does
[quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jim 2012[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to: 1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt) 2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers. Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.[/p][/quote]who do you think rovers owe the bullk of the debt to I will give you a clue it begins with the letter V and they are billionaires[/p][/quote]Venezuela?[/p][/quote]DOINT YOU JUST LOVE UM stupid is as stupid does jim 2012
  • Score: -1

5:07pm Wed 22 Jan 14

chicken.pluckers says...

baz58 wrote:
earwego wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
Truerover85 wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to:
1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt)
2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers.
Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.
Somebody remind this tool that Venky are billion airs. Remind me how much the Burnley chairmens worth again. 56million is a drop in the ocean of money those seedy indian pirates have in their chicken coop!

Also do you honestly think your few good players will stick with Burnley if you dont get premoted? Thats how football works u knobb sack!
So why then have they allowed you to be punished with a transfer embargo as of next season? Its called making a MASSIVE loss. You can't buy your way out of trouble any more you mug.

Burnley are a well-respected, well-run, proper football club, challenging for promotion to the Premier League, something which Blackburn Rovers will never be.

And we're 14 points ahead of you morons. Hows that sound?
Could it be that the squad is being built up this year to offset any transfer embargo? Could it be that this squad and a few additions are going to be the squad that makes the push next season?All players knowing each others game,all young and eager. It could be a case that Rovers will not need any additions next year if they keep this squad together.You Dingles if not promoted will lose half your squad,if you do get promoted,you will need to buy at least 7 more Premiership players,on high wages with the lowest gates in the Premier League.Hows that dimwit.
And then they will come straight back down, remember the last time they had a crack at the premier league, totally laughable, even though they showed East Lancs football up. Football in the North West had a good reputation....then burnley got promoted and ruined all the good work Blackburn had done in all those previous years.
No-dad reality check:

1. You are owned by Venky's
2. You are over £56 million in debt
3. You lost £36.5 million in the last year and you are losing £3 million a month
4. Your parachute payments have now been halved
5. You have useless players on 4 year £30,000+ per week contracts
6. You are STILL looking up in awe at the Clarets
7. Your 34 year comedy record is soon to be taken from you
8. You have to be promoted this season or you WILL face financial oblivion
9. You are not good enough to reach the play-off's
10. You will have a transfer embargo next season
[quote][p][bold]baz58[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]earwego[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Truerover85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to: 1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt) 2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers. Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.[/p][/quote]Somebody remind this tool that Venky are billion airs. Remind me how much the Burnley chairmens worth again. 56million is a drop in the ocean of money those seedy indian pirates have in their chicken coop! Also do you honestly think your few good players will stick with Burnley if you dont get premoted? Thats how football works u knobb sack![/p][/quote]So why then have they allowed you to be punished with a transfer embargo as of next season? Its called making a MASSIVE loss. You can't buy your way out of trouble any more you mug. Burnley are a well-respected, well-run, proper football club, challenging for promotion to the Premier League, something which Blackburn Rovers will never be. And we're 14 points ahead of you morons. Hows that sound?[/p][/quote]Could it be that the squad is being built up this year to offset any transfer embargo? Could it be that this squad and a few additions are going to be the squad that makes the push next season?All players knowing each others game,all young and eager. It could be a case that Rovers will not need any additions next year if they keep this squad together.You Dingles if not promoted will lose half your squad,if you do get promoted,you will need to buy at least 7 more Premiership players,on high wages with the lowest gates in the Premier League.Hows that dimwit.[/p][/quote]And then they will come straight back down, remember the last time they had a crack at the premier league, totally laughable, even though they showed East Lancs football up. Football in the North West had a good reputation....then burnley got promoted and ruined all the good work Blackburn had done in all those previous years.[/p][/quote]No-dad reality check: 1. You are owned by Venky's 2. You are over £56 million in debt 3. You lost £36.5 million in the last year and you are losing £3 million a month 4. Your parachute payments have now been halved 5. You have useless players on 4 year £30,000+ per week contracts 6. You are STILL looking up in awe at the Clarets 7. Your 34 year comedy record is soon to be taken from you 8. You have to be promoted this season or you WILL face financial oblivion 9. You are not good enough to reach the play-off's 10. You will have a transfer embargo next season chicken.pluckers
  • Score: 2

5:24pm Wed 22 Jan 14

chicken.pluckers says...

jim 2012 wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
Truerover85 wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to:
1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt)
2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers.
Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.
Somebody remind this tool that Venky are billion airs. Remind me how much the Burnley chairmens worth again. 56million is a drop in the ocean of money those seedy indian pirates have in their chicken coop!

Also do you honestly think your few good players will stick with Burnley if you dont get premoted? Thats how football works u knobb sack!
So why then have they allowed you to be punished with a transfer embargo as of next season? Its called making a MASSIVE loss. You can't buy your way out of trouble any more you mug.

Burnley are a well-respected, well-run, proper football club, challenging for promotion to the Premier League, something which Blackburn Rovers will never be.

And we're 14 points ahead of you morons. Hows that sound?
the transfer embargo will begin on the first of january 2015
it will only apply to clubs that can't inject equity in there club
to cover any loss over £ 3 to £8 million
the ffp rules do not cover a football clubs debt
if it did over half of the premier league clubs who'd be out of business
I'm afraid you are in for a big shock my friend. Maybe I didn't make it clear enough, let me define financial meltdown for you...

"By the 2015/16 season, losses in the Championship can be no more than £5m and shareholders are only permitted to invest £3m of their own cash.

Blackburn Rovers are top of the list of the clubs at risk of incurring penalties. Their announced losses for last year were £36.5 million which included £3.5m on agent's fees. At the very least they will face a transfer embargo. Parachute payments for this season have now been halved and so the club will incur a further loss of £8 million.

Their accounts reveal a staggering £27.3m drop in turnover and a worrying 136.1 per cent wages-to-turnover ratio for the year ending 2013, with wages totalling £36.6m. There was an operating loss of £24.3m.

They also show that the club's net debt has risen from £24.5m to £56.5m. While most of the loss in turnover was due to the disappearance of Premier League payments, £1.1m was down to a sharp drop in average attendances from 22,591 to 14,997 last season. Attendances have since fallen further during the 2013/14 season.

The club’s overall debt of £56.5m consists of a £36.1m loan from Venky’s, plus a £13.7m loan from the State Bank of India, which must be repaid within 12 months.

Chief executive Derek Show commented, 'We can't keep these type of losses up. It is very, very difficult.'The way forward is far from clear."

The drop in commercial, media and gate revenue could see the club forced to sell £8m club record signing Jordan Rhodes in January in order to reduce losses."


To sum it up for you, Blackburn Rovers are up financial sh!t creek without a paddle. The sale of Jordan Rhodes to recoup the additional loss through the drop in parachute payments is as good as done. Mr Redknapp will be well aware of this.

Read it and weep no-dads, the free ride ends here....
[quote][p][bold]jim 2012[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Truerover85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to: 1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt) 2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers. Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.[/p][/quote]Somebody remind this tool that Venky are billion airs. Remind me how much the Burnley chairmens worth again. 56million is a drop in the ocean of money those seedy indian pirates have in their chicken coop! Also do you honestly think your few good players will stick with Burnley if you dont get premoted? Thats how football works u knobb sack![/p][/quote]So why then have they allowed you to be punished with a transfer embargo as of next season? Its called making a MASSIVE loss. You can't buy your way out of trouble any more you mug. Burnley are a well-respected, well-run, proper football club, challenging for promotion to the Premier League, something which Blackburn Rovers will never be. And we're 14 points ahead of you morons. Hows that sound?[/p][/quote]the transfer embargo will begin on the first of january 2015 it will only apply to clubs that can't inject equity in there club to cover any loss over £ 3 to £8 million the ffp rules do not cover a football clubs debt if it did over half of the premier league clubs who'd be out of business[/p][/quote]I'm afraid you are in for a big shock my friend. Maybe I didn't make it clear enough, let me define financial meltdown for you... "By the 2015/16 season, losses in the Championship can be no more than £5m and shareholders are only permitted to invest £3m of their own cash. Blackburn Rovers are top of the list of the clubs at risk of incurring penalties. Their announced losses for last year were £36.5 million which included £3.5m on agent's fees. At the very least they will face a transfer embargo. Parachute payments for this season have now been halved and so the club will incur a further loss of £8 million. Their accounts reveal a staggering £27.3m drop in turnover and a worrying 136.1 per cent wages-to-turnover ratio for the year ending 2013, with wages totalling £36.6m. There was an operating loss of £24.3m. They also show that the club's net debt has risen from £24.5m to £56.5m. While most of the loss in turnover was due to the disappearance of Premier League payments, £1.1m was down to a sharp drop in average attendances from 22,591 to 14,997 last season. Attendances have since fallen further during the 2013/14 season. The club’s overall debt of £56.5m consists of a £36.1m loan from Venky’s, plus a £13.7m loan from the State Bank of India, which must be repaid within 12 months. Chief executive Derek Show commented, 'We can't keep these type of losses up. It is very, very difficult.'The way forward is far from clear." The drop in commercial, media and gate revenue could see the club forced to sell £8m club record signing Jordan Rhodes in January in order to reduce losses." To sum it up for you, Blackburn Rovers are up financial sh!t creek without a paddle. The sale of Jordan Rhodes to recoup the additional loss through the drop in parachute payments is as good as done. Mr Redknapp will be well aware of this. Read it and weep no-dads, the free ride ends here.... chicken.pluckers
  • Score: 0

5:59pm Wed 22 Jan 14

mmickk says...

earwego wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
earwego wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
Truerover85 wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to:
1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt)
2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers.
Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.
Somebody remind this tool that Venky are billion airs. Remind me how much the Burnley chairmens worth again. 56million is a drop in the ocean of money those seedy indian pirates have in their chicken coop!

Also do you honestly think your few good players will stick with Burnley if you dont get premoted? Thats how football works u knobb sack!
So why then have they allowed you to be punished with a transfer embargo as of next season? Its called making a MASSIVE loss. You can't buy your way out of trouble any more you mug.

Burnley are a well-respected, well-run, proper football club, challenging for promotion to the Premier League, something which Blackburn Rovers will never be.

And we're 14 points ahead of you morons. Hows that sound?
Could it be that the squad is being built up this year to offset any transfer embargo? Could it be that this squad and a few additions are going to be the squad that makes the push next season?All players knowing each others game,all young and eager. It could be a case that Rovers will not need any additions next year if they keep this squad together.You Dingles if not promoted will lose half your squad,if you do get promoted,you will need to buy at least 7 more Premiership players,on high wages with the lowest gates in the Premier League.Hows that dimwit.
A Blackburn Rovers fan saying of Burnley "If you do get promoted...."

At least its sinking in for some of you morons finally.

Burnley FC could go up this season, while Blackburn Rovers, debt-ridden, embarrassment of a club teeter on the brink of financial meltdown.

14 points dimwit. Hows that sound?
14 points will mean nothing if we both meet in the play-offs.moron
The difference is only four points as the tables stand but the dingle cannot work that one out on his abacus. Simple logic is not taught at schools in yorkshire.
[quote][p][bold]earwego[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]earwego[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Truerover85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to: 1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt) 2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers. Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.[/p][/quote]Somebody remind this tool that Venky are billion airs. Remind me how much the Burnley chairmens worth again. 56million is a drop in the ocean of money those seedy indian pirates have in their chicken coop! Also do you honestly think your few good players will stick with Burnley if you dont get premoted? Thats how football works u knobb sack![/p][/quote]So why then have they allowed you to be punished with a transfer embargo as of next season? Its called making a MASSIVE loss. You can't buy your way out of trouble any more you mug. Burnley are a well-respected, well-run, proper football club, challenging for promotion to the Premier League, something which Blackburn Rovers will never be. And we're 14 points ahead of you morons. Hows that sound?[/p][/quote]Could it be that the squad is being built up this year to offset any transfer embargo? Could it be that this squad and a few additions are going to be the squad that makes the push next season?All players knowing each others game,all young and eager. It could be a case that Rovers will not need any additions next year if they keep this squad together.You Dingles if not promoted will lose half your squad,if you do get promoted,you will need to buy at least 7 more Premiership players,on high wages with the lowest gates in the Premier League.Hows that dimwit.[/p][/quote]A Blackburn Rovers fan saying of Burnley "If you do get promoted...." At least its sinking in for some of you morons finally. Burnley FC could go up this season, while Blackburn Rovers, debt-ridden, embarrassment of a club teeter on the brink of financial meltdown. 14 points dimwit. Hows that sound?[/p][/quote]14 points will mean nothing if we both meet in the play-offs.moron[/p][/quote]The difference is only four points as the tables stand but the dingle cannot work that one out on his abacus. Simple logic is not taught at schools in yorkshire. mmickk
  • Score: -3

6:21pm Wed 22 Jan 14

CheltRover says...

chicken.pluckers wrote:
jim 2012 wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to:
1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt)
2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers.
Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.
who do you think rovers owe the bullk of the debt to I will give you a clue
it begins with the letter V and they are billionaires
Is it a gift?

No, it's a loan. It has to be paid back.

If Venky's are so rich why don't they just write it off? Bet you can't answer that one can you Mungo?

Fool.
Why are you posting on a Blackburn Rovers forum? Are you a retard?
[quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jim 2012[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to: 1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt) 2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers. Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.[/p][/quote]who do you think rovers owe the bullk of the debt to I will give you a clue it begins with the letter V and they are billionaires[/p][/quote]Is it a gift? No, it's a loan. It has to be paid back. If Venky's are so rich why don't they just write it off? Bet you can't answer that one can you Mungo? Fool.[/p][/quote]Why are you posting on a Blackburn Rovers forum? Are you a retard? CheltRover
  • Score: -1

6:27pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Wild Rover says...

And so readers we discover the anthropological missing link at last. It lives in the Yorkshire borders around Burnley. It's name?
Well it is known by many, WeLuvuVenkys, SmallintSaddle,Codin
aMug Chickwnplucker etc, the universal Latin name of Homo Scrotus Dinglus is probably the most apt however.
Fortunately excessive inter-breeding and premature celebration when excited or stressed has caused a faillure to reproduce which leads to only small gatherings of this unfortunate throwback.
Care still needs to be taken in their presence however as bright colours such as blue and white tend to enrage them, as does a lack of success in tribal games
They will probably die out within a few years
Shame, as they are amusing to watch
And so readers we discover the anthropological missing link at last. It lives in the Yorkshire borders around Burnley. It's name? Well it is known by many, WeLuvuVenkys, SmallintSaddle,Codin aMug Chickwnplucker etc, the universal Latin name of Homo Scrotus Dinglus is probably the most apt however. Fortunately excessive inter-breeding and premature celebration when excited or stressed has caused a faillure to reproduce which leads to only small gatherings of this unfortunate throwback. Care still needs to be taken in their presence however as bright colours such as blue and white tend to enrage them, as does a lack of success in tribal games They will probably die out within a few years Shame, as they are amusing to watch Wild Rover
  • Score: 1

6:51pm Wed 22 Jan 14

baldie says...

I see all the speculation as a positive.
The fact that we have the top striker outside the Premiership is something to be proud of and excited about.
Maybe someone will come in with a £10 million + offer and he will go.
I honestly can't see anyone risking that kind of money on a player unproven at Prem level.
Which would leave us with either a player going to the Premiership and the club getting a massive payout,OR,Rovers keeping hold of the best striker in the Championship.
Should the latter happen,it must bode well for the second half of the season, should GB be able to shape the squad as he wishes.
I see all the speculation as a positive. The fact that we have the top striker outside the Premiership is something to be proud of and excited about. Maybe someone will come in with a £10 million + offer and he will go. I honestly can't see anyone risking that kind of money on a player unproven at Prem level. Which would leave us with either a player going to the Premiership and the club getting a massive payout,OR,Rovers keeping hold of the best striker in the Championship. Should the latter happen,it must bode well for the second half of the season, should GB be able to shape the squad as he wishes. baldie
  • Score: 2

7:28pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Wild Rover says...

chicken.pluckers wrote:
jim 2012 wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
Truerover85 wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to:
1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt)
2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers.
Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.
Somebody remind this tool that Venky are billion airs. Remind me how much the Burnley chairmens worth again. 56million is a drop in the ocean of money those seedy indian pirates have in their chicken coop!

Also do you honestly think your few good players will stick with Burnley if you dont get premoted? Thats how football works u knobb sack!
So why then have they allowed you to be punished with a transfer embargo as of next season? Its called making a MASSIVE loss. You can't buy your way out of trouble any more you mug.

Burnley are a well-respected, well-run, proper football club, challenging for promotion to the Premier League, something which Blackburn Rovers will never be.

And we're 14 points ahead of you morons. Hows that sound?
the transfer embargo will begin on the first of january 2015
it will only apply to clubs that can't inject equity in there club
to cover any loss over £ 3 to £8 million
the ffp rules do not cover a football clubs debt
if it did over half of the premier league clubs who'd be out of business
I'm afraid you are in for a big shock my friend. Maybe I didn't make it clear enough, let me define financial meltdown for you...

"By the 2015/16 season, losses in the Championship can be no more than £5m and shareholders are only permitted to invest £3m of their own cash.

Blackburn Rovers are top of the list of the clubs at risk of incurring penalties. Their announced losses for last year were £36.5 million which included £3.5m on agent's fees. At the very least they will face a transfer embargo. Parachute payments for this season have now been halved and so the club will incur a further loss of £8 million.

Their accounts reveal a staggering £27.3m drop in turnover and a worrying 136.1 per cent wages-to-turnover ratio for the year ending 2013, with wages totalling £36.6m. There was an operating loss of £24.3m.

They also show that the club's net debt has risen from £24.5m to £56.5m. While most of the loss in turnover was due to the disappearance of Premier League payments, £1.1m was down to a sharp drop in average attendances from 22,591 to 14,997 last season. Attendances have since fallen further during the 2013/14 season.

The club’s overall debt of £56.5m consists of a £36.1m loan from Venky’s, plus a £13.7m loan from the State Bank of India, which must be repaid within 12 months.

Chief executive Derek Show commented, 'We can't keep these type of losses up. It is very, very difficult.'The way forward is far from clear."

The drop in commercial, media and gate revenue could see the club forced to sell £8m club record signing Jordan Rhodes in January in order to reduce losses."


To sum it up for you, Blackburn Rovers are up financial sh!t creek without a paddle. The sale of Jordan Rhodes to recoup the additional loss through the drop in parachute payments is as good as done. Mr Redknapp will be well aware of this.

Read it and weep no-dads, the free ride ends here....
Nice bit of selective editing there Gimpo, especially the bit where you put different words in Derek Shaws quote....
Almost convincing
But like all your fantasy it just wishful thinking
Reality check?
It's you that needs one, and that will come in May
[quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jim 2012[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Truerover85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to: 1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt) 2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers. Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.[/p][/quote]Somebody remind this tool that Venky are billion airs. Remind me how much the Burnley chairmens worth again. 56million is a drop in the ocean of money those seedy indian pirates have in their chicken coop! Also do you honestly think your few good players will stick with Burnley if you dont get premoted? Thats how football works u knobb sack![/p][/quote]So why then have they allowed you to be punished with a transfer embargo as of next season? Its called making a MASSIVE loss. You can't buy your way out of trouble any more you mug. Burnley are a well-respected, well-run, proper football club, challenging for promotion to the Premier League, something which Blackburn Rovers will never be. And we're 14 points ahead of you morons. Hows that sound?[/p][/quote]the transfer embargo will begin on the first of january 2015 it will only apply to clubs that can't inject equity in there club to cover any loss over £ 3 to £8 million the ffp rules do not cover a football clubs debt if it did over half of the premier league clubs who'd be out of business[/p][/quote]I'm afraid you are in for a big shock my friend. Maybe I didn't make it clear enough, let me define financial meltdown for you... "By the 2015/16 season, losses in the Championship can be no more than £5m and shareholders are only permitted to invest £3m of their own cash. Blackburn Rovers are top of the list of the clubs at risk of incurring penalties. Their announced losses for last year were £36.5 million which included £3.5m on agent's fees. At the very least they will face a transfer embargo. Parachute payments for this season have now been halved and so the club will incur a further loss of £8 million. Their accounts reveal a staggering £27.3m drop in turnover and a worrying 136.1 per cent wages-to-turnover ratio for the year ending 2013, with wages totalling £36.6m. There was an operating loss of £24.3m. They also show that the club's net debt has risen from £24.5m to £56.5m. While most of the loss in turnover was due to the disappearance of Premier League payments, £1.1m was down to a sharp drop in average attendances from 22,591 to 14,997 last season. Attendances have since fallen further during the 2013/14 season. The club’s overall debt of £56.5m consists of a £36.1m loan from Venky’s, plus a £13.7m loan from the State Bank of India, which must be repaid within 12 months. Chief executive Derek Show commented, 'We can't keep these type of losses up. It is very, very difficult.'The way forward is far from clear." The drop in commercial, media and gate revenue could see the club forced to sell £8m club record signing Jordan Rhodes in January in order to reduce losses." To sum it up for you, Blackburn Rovers are up financial sh!t creek without a paddle. The sale of Jordan Rhodes to recoup the additional loss through the drop in parachute payments is as good as done. Mr Redknapp will be well aware of this. Read it and weep no-dads, the free ride ends here....[/p][/quote]Nice bit of selective editing there Gimpo, especially the bit where you put different words in Derek Shaws quote.... Almost convincing But like all your fantasy it just wishful thinking Reality check? It's you that needs one, and that will come in May Wild Rover
  • Score: -1

7:43pm Wed 22 Jan 14

hugofakenham says...

Truerover85 wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to:
1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt)
2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers.
Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.
Somebody remind this tool that Venky are billion airs. Remind me how much the Burnley chairmens worth again. 56million is a drop in the ocean of money those seedy indian pirates have in their chicken coop!

Also do you honestly think your few good players will stick with Burnley if you dont get premoted? Thats how football works u knobb sack!
premoted ???
billion airs ??

IQ LESS THAN RHODES SHIRT NUMBER
[quote][p][bold]Truerover85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to: 1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt) 2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers. Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.[/p][/quote]Somebody remind this tool that Venky are billion airs. Remind me how much the Burnley chairmens worth again. 56million is a drop in the ocean of money those seedy indian pirates have in their chicken coop! Also do you honestly think your few good players will stick with Burnley if you dont get premoted? Thats how football works u knobb sack![/p][/quote]premoted ??? billion airs ?? IQ LESS THAN RHODES SHIRT NUMBER hugofakenham
  • Score: 2

7:56pm Wed 22 Jan 14

tall in the saddle says...

The Venkys may or may not be billionaires. I don’t know and I doubt many posting on this thread do. However, they are rich and obviously good at their Business. The debt they have accrued from the ownership of Rovers cannot however be called ‘savvy’ business at all. Nor I doubt can it be written off against tax in India, as the debt is to a UK business ie Blackburn Rovers. The debt must be sustainable to them, for now, so selling players for £8 or £9 million is small in the scale of things. Also they are trimming down the bloated and expensive squad. So, Rhodes would only go if he wants to and is able force a move. For this and keeping them out of administration the Rovers fans should be very grateful to the Venkys. However the question has to be asked why have they bought Blackburn Rovers and what will they do with it? Surely they don’t have a love of football or of Blackburn so what is their plan? If Rovers are not promoted this season what happens then???
The Venkys may or may not be billionaires. I don’t know and I doubt many posting on this thread do. However, they are rich and obviously good at their Business. The debt they have accrued from the ownership of Rovers cannot however be called ‘savvy’ business at all. Nor I doubt can it be written off against tax in India, as the debt is to a UK business ie Blackburn Rovers. The debt must be sustainable to them, for now, so selling players for £8 or £9 million is small in the scale of things. Also they are trimming down the bloated and expensive squad. So, Rhodes would only go if he wants to and is able force a move. For this and keeping them out of administration the Rovers fans should be very grateful to the Venkys. However the question has to be asked why have they bought Blackburn Rovers and what will they do with it? Surely they don’t have a love of football or of Blackburn so what is their plan? If Rovers are not promoted this season what happens then??? tall in the saddle
  • Score: 0

8:36pm Wed 22 Jan 14

BlueSkies says...

tall in the saddle wrote:
The Venkys may or may not be billionaires. I don’t know and I doubt many posting on this thread do. However, they are rich and obviously good at their Business. The debt they have accrued from the ownership of Rovers cannot however be called ‘savvy’ business at all. Nor I doubt can it be written off against tax in India, as the debt is to a UK business ie Blackburn Rovers. The debt must be sustainable to them, for now, so selling players for £8 or £9 million is small in the scale of things. Also they are trimming down the bloated and expensive squad. So, Rhodes would only go if he wants to and is able force a move. For this and keeping them out of administration the Rovers fans should be very grateful to the Venkys. However the question has to be asked why have they bought Blackburn Rovers and what will they do with it? Surely they don’t have a love of football or of Blackburn so what is their plan? If Rovers are not promoted this season what happens then???
Foooook me, even Clint Eastwood getting involved now.

Don't worry about it, it's not your problem, but thanks for a constructive comment and maybe some of your fellow supporters could learn from your example.

Not holding my breath though. Cheers.

We will survive.
[quote][p][bold]tall in the saddle[/bold] wrote: The Venkys may or may not be billionaires. I don’t know and I doubt many posting on this thread do. However, they are rich and obviously good at their Business. The debt they have accrued from the ownership of Rovers cannot however be called ‘savvy’ business at all. Nor I doubt can it be written off against tax in India, as the debt is to a UK business ie Blackburn Rovers. The debt must be sustainable to them, for now, so selling players for £8 or £9 million is small in the scale of things. Also they are trimming down the bloated and expensive squad. So, Rhodes would only go if he wants to and is able force a move. For this and keeping them out of administration the Rovers fans should be very grateful to the Venkys. However the question has to be asked why have they bought Blackburn Rovers and what will they do with it? Surely they don’t have a love of football or of Blackburn so what is their plan? If Rovers are not promoted this season what happens then???[/p][/quote]Foooook me, even Clint Eastwood getting involved now. Don't worry about it, it's not your problem, but thanks for a constructive comment and maybe some of your fellow supporters could learn from your example. Not holding my breath though. Cheers. We will survive. BlueSkies
  • Score: -1

8:52pm Wed 22 Jan 14

peely says...

tall in the saddle wrote:
The Venkys may or may not be billionaires. I don’t know and I doubt many posting on this thread do. However, they are rich and obviously good at their Business. The debt they have accrued from the ownership of Rovers cannot however be called ‘savvy’ business at all. Nor I doubt can it be written off against tax in India, as the debt is to a UK business ie Blackburn Rovers. The debt must be sustainable to them, for now, so selling players for £8 or £9 million is small in the scale of things. Also they are trimming down the bloated and expensive squad. So, Rhodes would only go if he wants to and is able force a move. For this and keeping them out of administration the Rovers fans should be very grateful to the Venkys. However the question has to be asked why have they bought Blackburn Rovers and what will they do with it? Surely they don’t have a love of football or of Blackburn so what is their plan? If Rovers are not promoted this season what happens then???
" If Rovers are not promoted what happens then " ? According to rumours coming from within Ewood the priority this season is to get enough points on the board to safeguard them from getting relegated when they get the points deduction that automatically comes from going into administration ,which believe it or not is a definite possibility ! Make of that what you will but from a very good source !
[quote][p][bold]tall in the saddle[/bold] wrote: The Venkys may or may not be billionaires. I don’t know and I doubt many posting on this thread do. However, they are rich and obviously good at their Business. The debt they have accrued from the ownership of Rovers cannot however be called ‘savvy’ business at all. Nor I doubt can it be written off against tax in India, as the debt is to a UK business ie Blackburn Rovers. The debt must be sustainable to them, for now, so selling players for £8 or £9 million is small in the scale of things. Also they are trimming down the bloated and expensive squad. So, Rhodes would only go if he wants to and is able force a move. For this and keeping them out of administration the Rovers fans should be very grateful to the Venkys. However the question has to be asked why have they bought Blackburn Rovers and what will they do with it? Surely they don’t have a love of football or of Blackburn so what is their plan? If Rovers are not promoted this season what happens then???[/p][/quote]" If Rovers are not promoted what happens then " ? According to rumours coming from within Ewood the priority this season is to get enough points on the board to safeguard them from getting relegated when they get the points deduction that automatically comes from going into administration ,which believe it or not is a definite possibility ! Make of that what you will but from a very good source ! peely
  • Score: 0

8:55pm Wed 22 Jan 14

mammamiauk says...

tall in the saddle wrote:
The Venkys may or may not be billionaires. I don’t know and I doubt many posting on this thread do. However, they are rich and obviously good at their Business. The debt they have accrued from the ownership of Rovers cannot however be called ‘savvy’ business at all. Nor I doubt can it be written off against tax in India, as the debt is to a UK business ie Blackburn Rovers. The debt must be sustainable to them, for now, so selling players for £8 or £9 million is small in the scale of things. Also they are trimming down the bloated and expensive squad. So, Rhodes would only go if he wants to and is able force a move. For this and keeping them out of administration the Rovers fans should be very grateful to the Venkys. However the question has to be asked why have they bought Blackburn Rovers and what will they do with it? Surely they don’t have a love of football or of Blackburn so what is their plan? If Rovers are not promoted this season what happens then???
The Venky's may be good at running a business back in their homeland India but they sure do not know how to do so with our beloved Rovers as they certainly do not know anything about running a football club. As many Rovers fans have already pointed out, the Venky's have not (and still have not) communicated with the supporters and destroyed our football club. Not sure if this is a culture thing? They may get away with treating fellow Indians like that (ie non-communication) but not us! I really fear for Rovers, what happens if the debts keep rising? For example, look at what has happened to Portsmouth!

Our current owners certainly do not have a love for the beautiful game as they are also hardly at Ewood for the games. The question is, why buy a football club then? Perhaps Blackburn Rovers is just something to add to their business profile in India.

Whilst I do not wish to see Rhodes go, a huge bid and a big offer will be too tempting for him to resist and even more so if it means he can play in the Premier League although he has said in interviews that he would like to help Rovers get promoted and play with them in the top flight. But again, other Rovers fans have already mentioned that Premier League clubs would not risk him as he is unproven at that level and I do agree.
[quote][p][bold]tall in the saddle[/bold] wrote: The Venkys may or may not be billionaires. I don’t know and I doubt many posting on this thread do. However, they are rich and obviously good at their Business. The debt they have accrued from the ownership of Rovers cannot however be called ‘savvy’ business at all. Nor I doubt can it be written off against tax in India, as the debt is to a UK business ie Blackburn Rovers. The debt must be sustainable to them, for now, so selling players for £8 or £9 million is small in the scale of things. Also they are trimming down the bloated and expensive squad. So, Rhodes would only go if he wants to and is able force a move. For this and keeping them out of administration the Rovers fans should be very grateful to the Venkys. However the question has to be asked why have they bought Blackburn Rovers and what will they do with it? Surely they don’t have a love of football or of Blackburn so what is their plan? If Rovers are not promoted this season what happens then???[/p][/quote]The Venky's may be good at running a business back in their homeland India but they sure do not know how to do so with our beloved Rovers as they certainly do not know anything about running a football club. As many Rovers fans have already pointed out, the Venky's have not (and still have not) communicated with the supporters and destroyed our football club. Not sure if this is a culture thing? They may get away with treating fellow Indians like that (ie non-communication) but not us! I really fear for Rovers, what happens if the debts keep rising? For example, look at what has happened to Portsmouth! Our current owners certainly do not have a love for the beautiful game as they are also hardly at Ewood for the games. The question is, why buy a football club then? Perhaps Blackburn Rovers is just something to add to their business profile in India. Whilst I do not wish to see Rhodes go, a huge bid and a big offer will be too tempting for him to resist and even more so if it means he can play in the Premier League although he has said in interviews that he would like to help Rovers get promoted and play with them in the top flight. But again, other Rovers fans have already mentioned that Premier League clubs would not risk him as he is unproven at that level and I do agree. mammamiauk
  • Score: -1

9:10pm Wed 22 Jan 14

tall in the saddle says...

peely wrote:
tall in the saddle wrote:
The Venkys may or may not be billionaires. I don’t know and I doubt many posting on this thread do. However, they are rich and obviously good at their Business. The debt they have accrued from the ownership of Rovers cannot however be called ‘savvy’ business at all. Nor I doubt can it be written off against tax in India, as the debt is to a UK business ie Blackburn Rovers. The debt must be sustainable to them, for now, so selling players for £8 or £9 million is small in the scale of things. Also they are trimming down the bloated and expensive squad. So, Rhodes would only go if he wants to and is able force a move. For this and keeping them out of administration the Rovers fans should be very grateful to the Venkys. However the question has to be asked why have they bought Blackburn Rovers and what will they do with it? Surely they don’t have a love of football or of Blackburn so what is their plan? If Rovers are not promoted this season what happens then???
" If Rovers are not promoted what happens then " ? According to rumours coming from within Ewood the priority this season is to get enough points on the board to safeguard them from getting relegated when they get the points deduction that automatically comes from going into administration ,which believe it or not is a definite possibility ! Make of that what you will but from a very good source !
From Clint Esatwood to Danny la Rue. It is my business as an English football fan.
The posting is constructive but you have not given a constructive reply and how can you? Because no-one at fan level knows what the Venkys are planning. I really wonder if they do? I imagine they are planning their escape. Why on earth they bought this house on moors near Bolton I can’t imagine either unless they are planning a tie up with Pataks.
[quote][p][bold]peely[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tall in the saddle[/bold] wrote: The Venkys may or may not be billionaires. I don’t know and I doubt many posting on this thread do. However, they are rich and obviously good at their Business. The debt they have accrued from the ownership of Rovers cannot however be called ‘savvy’ business at all. Nor I doubt can it be written off against tax in India, as the debt is to a UK business ie Blackburn Rovers. The debt must be sustainable to them, for now, so selling players for £8 or £9 million is small in the scale of things. Also they are trimming down the bloated and expensive squad. So, Rhodes would only go if he wants to and is able force a move. For this and keeping them out of administration the Rovers fans should be very grateful to the Venkys. However the question has to be asked why have they bought Blackburn Rovers and what will they do with it? Surely they don’t have a love of football or of Blackburn so what is their plan? If Rovers are not promoted this season what happens then???[/p][/quote]" If Rovers are not promoted what happens then " ? According to rumours coming from within Ewood the priority this season is to get enough points on the board to safeguard them from getting relegated when they get the points deduction that automatically comes from going into administration ,which believe it or not is a definite possibility ! Make of that what you will but from a very good source ![/p][/quote]From Clint Esatwood to Danny la Rue. It is my business as an English football fan. The posting is constructive but you have not given a constructive reply and how can you? Because no-one at fan level knows what the Venkys are planning. I really wonder if they do? I imagine they are planning their escape. Why on earth they bought this house on moors near Bolton I can’t imagine either unless they are planning a tie up with Pataks. tall in the saddle
  • Score: 1

9:17pm Wed 22 Jan 14

tall in the saddle says...

mammamiauk wrote:
tall in the saddle wrote:
The Venkys may or may not be billionaires. I don’t know and I doubt many posting on this thread do. However, they are rich and obviously good at their Business. The debt they have accrued from the ownership of Rovers cannot however be called ‘savvy’ business at all. Nor I doubt can it be written off against tax in India, as the debt is to a UK business ie Blackburn Rovers. The debt must be sustainable to them, for now, so selling players for £8 or £9 million is small in the scale of things. Also they are trimming down the bloated and expensive squad. So, Rhodes would only go if he wants to and is able force a move. For this and keeping them out of administration the Rovers fans should be very grateful to the Venkys. However the question has to be asked why have they bought Blackburn Rovers and what will they do with it? Surely they don’t have a love of football or of Blackburn so what is their plan? If Rovers are not promoted this season what happens then???
The Venky's may be good at running a business back in their homeland India but they sure do not know how to do so with our beloved Rovers as they certainly do not know anything about running a football club. As many Rovers fans have already pointed out, the Venky's have not (and still have not) communicated with the supporters and destroyed our football club. Not sure if this is a culture thing? They may get away with treating fellow Indians like that (ie non-communication) but not us! I really fear for Rovers, what happens if the debts keep rising? For example, look at what has happened to Portsmouth!

Our current owners certainly do not have a love for the beautiful game as they are also hardly at Ewood for the games. The question is, why buy a football club then? Perhaps Blackburn Rovers is just something to add to their business profile in India.

Whilst I do not wish to see Rhodes go, a huge bid and a big offer will be too tempting for him to resist and even more so if it means he can play in the Premier League although he has said in interviews that he would like to help Rovers get promoted and play with them in the top flight. But again, other Rovers fans have already mentioned that Premier League clubs would not risk him as he is unproven at that level and I do agree.
A good posting. Rhodes was untried at Championship level till Rovers bought him. But look at what he has achieved.
I think you may be right that they hoped that football would take off in India and that Shebby Singh had convinced them that with his help Rovers could achieve former glories and they could cash in on merchandise in the sub-continent. After all Rovers had won the Premier League. Now of course they have had a bitter pill to swallow. And as you say it’s what happens next.
[quote][p][bold]mammamiauk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tall in the saddle[/bold] wrote: The Venkys may or may not be billionaires. I don’t know and I doubt many posting on this thread do. However, they are rich and obviously good at their Business. The debt they have accrued from the ownership of Rovers cannot however be called ‘savvy’ business at all. Nor I doubt can it be written off against tax in India, as the debt is to a UK business ie Blackburn Rovers. The debt must be sustainable to them, for now, so selling players for £8 or £9 million is small in the scale of things. Also they are trimming down the bloated and expensive squad. So, Rhodes would only go if he wants to and is able force a move. For this and keeping them out of administration the Rovers fans should be very grateful to the Venkys. However the question has to be asked why have they bought Blackburn Rovers and what will they do with it? Surely they don’t have a love of football or of Blackburn so what is their plan? If Rovers are not promoted this season what happens then???[/p][/quote]The Venky's may be good at running a business back in their homeland India but they sure do not know how to do so with our beloved Rovers as they certainly do not know anything about running a football club. As many Rovers fans have already pointed out, the Venky's have not (and still have not) communicated with the supporters and destroyed our football club. Not sure if this is a culture thing? They may get away with treating fellow Indians like that (ie non-communication) but not us! I really fear for Rovers, what happens if the debts keep rising? For example, look at what has happened to Portsmouth! Our current owners certainly do not have a love for the beautiful game as they are also hardly at Ewood for the games. The question is, why buy a football club then? Perhaps Blackburn Rovers is just something to add to their business profile in India. Whilst I do not wish to see Rhodes go, a huge bid and a big offer will be too tempting for him to resist and even more so if it means he can play in the Premier League although he has said in interviews that he would like to help Rovers get promoted and play with them in the top flight. But again, other Rovers fans have already mentioned that Premier League clubs would not risk him as he is unproven at that level and I do agree.[/p][/quote]A good posting. Rhodes was untried at Championship level till Rovers bought him. But look at what he has achieved. I think you may be right that they hoped that football would take off in India and that Shebby Singh had convinced them that with his help Rovers could achieve former glories and they could cash in on merchandise in the sub-continent. After all Rovers had won the Premier League. Now of course they have had a bitter pill to swallow. And as you say it’s what happens next. tall in the saddle
  • Score: 1

10:11pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Wild Rover says...

Last 5 - 6 posts all utter rubbish Dingle doom fantasy
Sorry girls, Rovers will be around for quite a long time yet, and ultimately above Burnley..
As for your Financial Armeggedon fantasies, FFP rules will sort the Nodads out, well, you are not so bright are you?
You have not figured it out at all, Venky's are not stupid , football has not been their best moment but they can and do employ clever financial teams.
Why do you think they took ALL the losses in the last financial year?
FFP takes effect in the 2015/16 season, not now
Work it out
Baldric wont be able to figure it out so someone may need to help him
Last 5 - 6 posts all utter rubbish Dingle doom fantasy Sorry girls, Rovers will be around for quite a long time yet, and ultimately above Burnley.. As for your Financial Armeggedon fantasies, FFP rules will sort the Nodads out, well, you are not so bright are you? You have not figured it out at all, Venky's are not stupid , football has not been their best moment but they can and do employ clever financial teams. Why do you think they took ALL the losses in the last financial year? FFP takes effect in the 2015/16 season, not now Work it out Baldric wont be able to figure it out so someone may need to help him Wild Rover
  • Score: 0

10:14pm Wed 22 Jan 14

owd nick says...

peely wrote:
tall in the saddle wrote:
The Venkys may or may not be billionaires. I don’t know and I doubt many posting on this thread do. However, they are rich and obviously good at their Business. The debt they have accrued from the ownership of Rovers cannot however be called ‘savvy’ business at all. Nor I doubt can it be written off against tax in India, as the debt is to a UK business ie Blackburn Rovers. The debt must be sustainable to them, for now, so selling players for £8 or £9 million is small in the scale of things. Also they are trimming down the bloated and expensive squad. So, Rhodes would only go if he wants to and is able force a move. For this and keeping them out of administration the Rovers fans should be very grateful to the Venkys. However the question has to be asked why have they bought Blackburn Rovers and what will they do with it? Surely they don’t have a love of football or of Blackburn so what is their plan? If Rovers are not promoted this season what happens then???
" If Rovers are not promoted what happens then " ? According to rumours coming from within Ewood the priority this season is to get enough points on the board to safeguard them from getting relegated when they get the points deduction that automatically comes from going into administration ,which believe it or not is a definite possibility ! Make of that what you will but from a very good source !
It wouldn't surprise me at all, its the way I have been thinking for a while and not as daft as it sounds.

None of the Championship clubs I have seen so far this season have a hope of surviving in the PL next season without spending £70 to 80 million and even then they would have little chance;

Rovers certainly wouldn't, and I would actually love Burnley to go up, then come back down with less than 10 points next season when we take their place.

Get the points, go into administration with a decent young side that can only get better, set up a new ownership company with a business plan and no debt and start again next season with a clean sheet.

Southampton, Swansea.....etc; etc anyone?

Don't forget our only creditors are Venky's themselves and £11 million in the form of an overdraft with the national bank of India.

All we have to do is get rid of the crap that Anderson, Kean and Singh lumbered us with first, they certainly saw Venky's coming.

I haven't quite worked out why Anderson hasn't been hit by the Indian Mafia yet.

Immoral? Not really, the only people who get hurt are Venky's (who deserve it) and the bank, ditto.

Legal? Absolutely.
[quote][p][bold]peely[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tall in the saddle[/bold] wrote: The Venkys may or may not be billionaires. I don’t know and I doubt many posting on this thread do. However, they are rich and obviously good at their Business. The debt they have accrued from the ownership of Rovers cannot however be called ‘savvy’ business at all. Nor I doubt can it be written off against tax in India, as the debt is to a UK business ie Blackburn Rovers. The debt must be sustainable to them, for now, so selling players for £8 or £9 million is small in the scale of things. Also they are trimming down the bloated and expensive squad. So, Rhodes would only go if he wants to and is able force a move. For this and keeping them out of administration the Rovers fans should be very grateful to the Venkys. However the question has to be asked why have they bought Blackburn Rovers and what will they do with it? Surely they don’t have a love of football or of Blackburn so what is their plan? If Rovers are not promoted this season what happens then???[/p][/quote]" If Rovers are not promoted what happens then " ? According to rumours coming from within Ewood the priority this season is to get enough points on the board to safeguard them from getting relegated when they get the points deduction that automatically comes from going into administration ,which believe it or not is a definite possibility ! Make of that what you will but from a very good source ![/p][/quote]It wouldn't surprise me at all, its the way I have been thinking for a while and not as daft as it sounds. None of the Championship clubs I have seen so far this season have a hope of surviving in the PL next season without spending £70 to 80 million and even then they would have little chance; Rovers certainly wouldn't, and I would actually love Burnley to go up, then come back down with less than 10 points next season when we take their place. Get the points, go into administration with a decent young side that can only get better, set up a new ownership company with a business plan and no debt and start again next season with a clean sheet. Southampton, Swansea.....etc; etc anyone? Don't forget our only creditors are Venky's themselves and £11 million in the form of an overdraft with the national bank of India. All we have to do is get rid of the crap that Anderson, Kean and Singh lumbered us with first, they certainly saw Venky's coming. I haven't quite worked out why Anderson hasn't been hit by the Indian Mafia yet. Immoral? Not really, the only people who get hurt are Venky's (who deserve it) and the bank, ditto. Legal? Absolutely. owd nick
  • Score: 1

10:14pm Wed 22 Jan 14

chicken.pluckers says...

Wild Rover wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
jim 2012 wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
Truerover85 wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to:
1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt)
2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers.
Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.
Somebody remind this tool that Venky are billion airs. Remind me how much the Burnley chairmens worth again. 56million is a drop in the ocean of money those seedy indian pirates have in their chicken coop!

Also do you honestly think your few good players will stick with Burnley if you dont get premoted? Thats how football works u knobb sack!
So why then have they allowed you to be punished with a transfer embargo as of next season? Its called making a MASSIVE loss. You can't buy your way out of trouble any more you mug.

Burnley are a well-respected, well-run, proper football club, challenging for promotion to the Premier League, something which Blackburn Rovers will never be.

And we're 14 points ahead of you morons. Hows that sound?
the transfer embargo will begin on the first of january 2015
it will only apply to clubs that can't inject equity in there club
to cover any loss over £ 3 to £8 million
the ffp rules do not cover a football clubs debt
if it did over half of the premier league clubs who'd be out of business
I'm afraid you are in for a big shock my friend. Maybe I didn't make it clear enough, let me define financial meltdown for you...

"By the 2015/16 season, losses in the Championship can be no more than £5m and shareholders are only permitted to invest £3m of their own cash.

Blackburn Rovers are top of the list of the clubs at risk of incurring penalties. Their announced losses for last year were £36.5 million which included £3.5m on agent's fees. At the very least they will face a transfer embargo. Parachute payments for this season have now been halved and so the club will incur a further loss of £8 million.

Their accounts reveal a staggering £27.3m drop in turnover and a worrying 136.1 per cent wages-to-turnover ratio for the year ending 2013, with wages totalling £36.6m. There was an operating loss of £24.3m.

They also show that the club's net debt has risen from £24.5m to £56.5m. While most of the loss in turnover was due to the disappearance of Premier League payments, £1.1m was down to a sharp drop in average attendances from 22,591 to 14,997 last season. Attendances have since fallen further during the 2013/14 season.

The club’s overall debt of £56.5m consists of a £36.1m loan from Venky’s, plus a £13.7m loan from the State Bank of India, which must be repaid within 12 months.

Chief executive Derek Show commented, 'We can't keep these type of losses up. It is very, very difficult.'The way forward is far from clear."

The drop in commercial, media and gate revenue could see the club forced to sell £8m club record signing Jordan Rhodes in January in order to reduce losses."


To sum it up for you, Blackburn Rovers are up financial sh!t creek without a paddle. The sale of Jordan Rhodes to recoup the additional loss through the drop in parachute payments is as good as done. Mr Redknapp will be well aware of this.

Read it and weep no-dads, the free ride ends here....
Nice bit of selective editing there Gimpo, especially the bit where you put different words in Derek Shaws quote....
Almost convincing
But like all your fantasy it just wishful thinking
Reality check?
It's you that needs one, and that will come in May
Read it and weep Mungo. The words of your own Chief Executive. Time for you to wind your neck in I think.

http://www.footballe
conomy.com/content/b
lackburn-post-big-lo
ss

To summarise, your club is Donald Ducked.
[quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jim 2012[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Truerover85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to: 1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt) 2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers. Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.[/p][/quote]Somebody remind this tool that Venky are billion airs. Remind me how much the Burnley chairmens worth again. 56million is a drop in the ocean of money those seedy indian pirates have in their chicken coop! Also do you honestly think your few good players will stick with Burnley if you dont get premoted? Thats how football works u knobb sack![/p][/quote]So why then have they allowed you to be punished with a transfer embargo as of next season? Its called making a MASSIVE loss. You can't buy your way out of trouble any more you mug. Burnley are a well-respected, well-run, proper football club, challenging for promotion to the Premier League, something which Blackburn Rovers will never be. And we're 14 points ahead of you morons. Hows that sound?[/p][/quote]the transfer embargo will begin on the first of january 2015 it will only apply to clubs that can't inject equity in there club to cover any loss over £ 3 to £8 million the ffp rules do not cover a football clubs debt if it did over half of the premier league clubs who'd be out of business[/p][/quote]I'm afraid you are in for a big shock my friend. Maybe I didn't make it clear enough, let me define financial meltdown for you... "By the 2015/16 season, losses in the Championship can be no more than £5m and shareholders are only permitted to invest £3m of their own cash. Blackburn Rovers are top of the list of the clubs at risk of incurring penalties. Their announced losses for last year were £36.5 million which included £3.5m on agent's fees. At the very least they will face a transfer embargo. Parachute payments for this season have now been halved and so the club will incur a further loss of £8 million. Their accounts reveal a staggering £27.3m drop in turnover and a worrying 136.1 per cent wages-to-turnover ratio for the year ending 2013, with wages totalling £36.6m. There was an operating loss of £24.3m. They also show that the club's net debt has risen from £24.5m to £56.5m. While most of the loss in turnover was due to the disappearance of Premier League payments, £1.1m was down to a sharp drop in average attendances from 22,591 to 14,997 last season. Attendances have since fallen further during the 2013/14 season. The club’s overall debt of £56.5m consists of a £36.1m loan from Venky’s, plus a £13.7m loan from the State Bank of India, which must be repaid within 12 months. Chief executive Derek Show commented, 'We can't keep these type of losses up. It is very, very difficult.'The way forward is far from clear." The drop in commercial, media and gate revenue could see the club forced to sell £8m club record signing Jordan Rhodes in January in order to reduce losses." To sum it up for you, Blackburn Rovers are up financial sh!t creek without a paddle. The sale of Jordan Rhodes to recoup the additional loss through the drop in parachute payments is as good as done. Mr Redknapp will be well aware of this. Read it and weep no-dads, the free ride ends here....[/p][/quote]Nice bit of selective editing there Gimpo, especially the bit where you put different words in Derek Shaws quote.... Almost convincing But like all your fantasy it just wishful thinking Reality check? It's you that needs one, and that will come in May[/p][/quote]Read it and weep Mungo. The words of your own Chief Executive. Time for you to wind your neck in I think. http://www.footballe conomy.com/content/b lackburn-post-big-lo ss To summarise, your club is Donald Ducked. chicken.pluckers
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10:31pm Wed 22 Jan 14

chicken.pluckers says...

Wild Rover wrote:
Last 5 - 6 posts all utter rubbish Dingle doom fantasy
Sorry girls, Rovers will be around for quite a long time yet, and ultimately above Burnley..
As for your Financial Armeggedon fantasies, FFP rules will sort the Nodads out, well, you are not so bright are you?
You have not figured it out at all, Venky's are not stupid , football has not been their best moment but they can and do employ clever financial teams.
Why do you think they took ALL the losses in the last financial year?
FFP takes effect in the 2015/16 season, not now
Work it out
Baldric wont be able to figure it out so someone may need to help him
Your club is losing £3 million per month.

Your losses for the last financial year were £36.5million. That equates to a loss of £3,041,666 every month. From this season you have had your parachute payments halved, resulting in a further £8million deficit.

I'm sorry to be the one to break this to you Mungo but it isn't the clubs position to decide to "take ALL the losses in the last financial year", because you see the thing is, YOU ARE STILL MAKING A MASSIVE LOSS EACH AND EVERY MONTH YOU MUG.

So what exactly have your owners put in place to offset the projected circa £45 million loss in the CURRENT financial year? Apart from shipping out a few deadleg players on loan, in some cases still having to pay a large percentage of their salary, not a lot it seems.

You have already got a transfer embargo to look forward to next season, and by the looks of it the following season will bring more of the same.

You are in a financial mess, and the sooner you gimps accept it the better.

Venky's will be gone once they have rinsed you off all saleable assets in the next two transfer windows and taken out as much cash as possible.

It's simple economics. Your owners are Indian, they don't know jack about football, they know they have made a mistake and they will try to bail out with the minimum loss possible, which will unfortunately leave your tin-pot club with its trousers around its ankles.

The answer? Administration.

http://www.bbc.co.uk
/sport/0/football/24
787872
[quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: Last 5 - 6 posts all utter rubbish Dingle doom fantasy Sorry girls, Rovers will be around for quite a long time yet, and ultimately above Burnley.. As for your Financial Armeggedon fantasies, FFP rules will sort the Nodads out, well, you are not so bright are you? You have not figured it out at all, Venky's are not stupid , football has not been their best moment but they can and do employ clever financial teams. Why do you think they took ALL the losses in the last financial year? FFP takes effect in the 2015/16 season, not now Work it out Baldric wont be able to figure it out so someone may need to help him[/p][/quote]Your club is losing £3 million per month. Your losses for the last financial year were £36.5million. That equates to a loss of £3,041,666 every month. From this season you have had your parachute payments halved, resulting in a further £8million deficit. I'm sorry to be the one to break this to you Mungo but it isn't the clubs position to decide to "take ALL the losses in the last financial year", because you see the thing is, YOU ARE STILL MAKING A MASSIVE LOSS EACH AND EVERY MONTH YOU MUG. So what exactly have your owners put in place to offset the projected circa £45 million loss in the CURRENT financial year? Apart from shipping out a few deadleg players on loan, in some cases still having to pay a large percentage of their salary, not a lot it seems. You have already got a transfer embargo to look forward to next season, and by the looks of it the following season will bring more of the same. You are in a financial mess, and the sooner you gimps accept it the better. Venky's will be gone once they have rinsed you off all saleable assets in the next two transfer windows and taken out as much cash as possible. It's simple economics. Your owners are Indian, they don't know jack about football, they know they have made a mistake and they will try to bail out with the minimum loss possible, which will unfortunately leave your tin-pot club with its trousers around its ankles. The answer? Administration. http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/0/football/24 787872 chicken.pluckers
  • Score: 1

10:42pm Wed 22 Jan 14

owd nick says...

chicken.pluckers wrote:
Wild Rover wrote:
Last 5 - 6 posts all utter rubbish Dingle doom fantasy
Sorry girls, Rovers will be around for quite a long time yet, and ultimately above Burnley..
As for your Financial Armeggedon fantasies, FFP rules will sort the Nodads out, well, you are not so bright are you?
You have not figured it out at all, Venky's are not stupid , football has not been their best moment but they can and do employ clever financial teams.
Why do you think they took ALL the losses in the last financial year?
FFP takes effect in the 2015/16 season, not now
Work it out
Baldric wont be able to figure it out so someone may need to help him
Your club is losing £3 million per month.

Your losses for the last financial year were £36.5million. That equates to a loss of £3,041,666 every month. From this season you have had your parachute payments halved, resulting in a further £8million deficit.

I'm sorry to be the one to break this to you Mungo but it isn't the clubs position to decide to "take ALL the losses in the last financial year", because you see the thing is, YOU ARE STILL MAKING A MASSIVE LOSS EACH AND EVERY MONTH YOU MUG.

So what exactly have your owners put in place to offset the projected circa £45 million loss in the CURRENT financial year? Apart from shipping out a few deadleg players on loan, in some cases still having to pay a large percentage of their salary, not a lot it seems.

You have already got a transfer embargo to look forward to next season, and by the looks of it the following season will bring more of the same.

You are in a financial mess, and the sooner you gimps accept it the better.

Venky's will be gone once they have rinsed you off all saleable assets in the next two transfer windows and taken out as much cash as possible.

It's simple economics. Your owners are Indian, they don't know jack about football, they know they have made a mistake and they will try to bail out with the minimum loss possible, which will unfortunately leave your tin-pot club with its trousers around its ankles.

The answer? Administration.

http://www.bbc.co.uk

/sport/0/football/24

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[quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: Last 5 - 6 posts all utter rubbish Dingle doom fantasy Sorry girls, Rovers will be around for quite a long time yet, and ultimately above Burnley.. As for your Financial Armeggedon fantasies, FFP rules will sort the Nodads out, well, you are not so bright are you? You have not figured it out at all, Venky's are not stupid , football has not been their best moment but they can and do employ clever financial teams. Why do you think they took ALL the losses in the last financial year? FFP takes effect in the 2015/16 season, not now Work it out Baldric wont be able to figure it out so someone may need to help him[/p][/quote]Your club is losing £3 million per month. Your losses for the last financial year were £36.5million. That equates to a loss of £3,041,666 every month. From this season you have had your parachute payments halved, resulting in a further £8million deficit. I'm sorry to be the one to break this to you Mungo but it isn't the clubs position to decide to "take ALL the losses in the last financial year", because you see the thing is, YOU ARE STILL MAKING A MASSIVE LOSS EACH AND EVERY MONTH YOU MUG. So what exactly have your owners put in place to offset the projected circa £45 million loss in the CURRENT financial year? Apart from shipping out a few deadleg players on loan, in some cases still having to pay a large percentage of their salary, not a lot it seems. You have already got a transfer embargo to look forward to next season, and by the looks of it the following season will bring more of the same. You are in a financial mess, and the sooner you gimps accept it the better. Venky's will be gone once they have rinsed you off all saleable assets in the next two transfer windows and taken out as much cash as possible. It's simple economics. Your owners are Indian, they don't know jack about football, they know they have made a mistake and they will try to bail out with the minimum loss possible, which will unfortunately leave your tin-pot club with its trousers around its ankles. The answer? Administration. http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/0/football/24 787872[/p][/quote]zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz owd nick
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10:52pm Wed 22 Jan 14

j bee says...

jim 2012 wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to:
1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt)
2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers.
Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.
who do you think rovers owe the bullk of the debt to I will give you a clue
it begins with the letter V and they are billionaires
`yes but they dont like losing money and will not give it away
[quote][p][bold]jim 2012[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to: 1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt) 2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers. Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.[/p][/quote]who do you think rovers owe the bullk of the debt to I will give you a clue it begins with the letter V and they are billionaires[/p][/quote]`yes but they dont like losing money and will not give it away j bee
  • Score: 2

10:56pm Wed 22 Jan 14

chicken.pluckers says...

owd nick wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
Wild Rover wrote:
Last 5 - 6 posts all utter rubbish Dingle doom fantasy
Sorry girls, Rovers will be around for quite a long time yet, and ultimately above Burnley..
As for your Financial Armeggedon fantasies, FFP rules will sort the Nodads out, well, you are not so bright are you?
You have not figured it out at all, Venky's are not stupid , football has not been their best moment but they can and do employ clever financial teams.
Why do you think they took ALL the losses in the last financial year?
FFP takes effect in the 2015/16 season, not now
Work it out
Baldric wont be able to figure it out so someone may need to help him
Your club is losing £3 million per month.

Your losses for the last financial year were £36.5million. That equates to a loss of £3,041,666 every month. From this season you have had your parachute payments halved, resulting in a further £8million deficit.

I'm sorry to be the one to break this to you Mungo but it isn't the clubs position to decide to "take ALL the losses in the last financial year", because you see the thing is, YOU ARE STILL MAKING A MASSIVE LOSS EACH AND EVERY MONTH YOU MUG.

So what exactly have your owners put in place to offset the projected circa £45 million loss in the CURRENT financial year? Apart from shipping out a few deadleg players on loan, in some cases still having to pay a large percentage of their salary, not a lot it seems.

You have already got a transfer embargo to look forward to next season, and by the looks of it the following season will bring more of the same.

You are in a financial mess, and the sooner you gimps accept it the better.

Venky's will be gone once they have rinsed you off all saleable assets in the next two transfer windows and taken out as much cash as possible.

It's simple economics. Your owners are Indian, they don't know jack about football, they know they have made a mistake and they will try to bail out with the minimum loss possible, which will unfortunately leave your tin-pot club with its trousers around its ankles.

The answer? Administration.

http://www.bbc.co.uk


/sport/0/football/24


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And that says it all about you deluded fools, pretend its not happening and maybe it will all go away and you'll wake up tomorrow morning in the premier league, with premier league players, a premier league manager, a premier league management structure, and John Williams will still be in charge, and people will like Blackburn Rovers once again, and you won't be a laughingstock, and Jack will still be here jizzing his life savings away on you ungrateful morons.

Well unfortunately Mungo, it's 2014 and your club in on the brink of a complete financial meltdown, only you 95'ers just won't believe it until its actually happened.

I look forward to watching the whole diabolical mess unfold. Couldn't happen to a nicer club.
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: Last 5 - 6 posts all utter rubbish Dingle doom fantasy Sorry girls, Rovers will be around for quite a long time yet, and ultimately above Burnley.. As for your Financial Armeggedon fantasies, FFP rules will sort the Nodads out, well, you are not so bright are you? You have not figured it out at all, Venky's are not stupid , football has not been their best moment but they can and do employ clever financial teams. Why do you think they took ALL the losses in the last financial year? FFP takes effect in the 2015/16 season, not now Work it out Baldric wont be able to figure it out so someone may need to help him[/p][/quote]Your club is losing £3 million per month. Your losses for the last financial year were £36.5million. That equates to a loss of £3,041,666 every month. From this season you have had your parachute payments halved, resulting in a further £8million deficit. I'm sorry to be the one to break this to you Mungo but it isn't the clubs position to decide to "take ALL the losses in the last financial year", because you see the thing is, YOU ARE STILL MAKING A MASSIVE LOSS EACH AND EVERY MONTH YOU MUG. So what exactly have your owners put in place to offset the projected circa £45 million loss in the CURRENT financial year? Apart from shipping out a few deadleg players on loan, in some cases still having to pay a large percentage of their salary, not a lot it seems. You have already got a transfer embargo to look forward to next season, and by the looks of it the following season will bring more of the same. You are in a financial mess, and the sooner you gimps accept it the better. Venky's will be gone once they have rinsed you off all saleable assets in the next two transfer windows and taken out as much cash as possible. It's simple economics. Your owners are Indian, they don't know jack about football, they know they have made a mistake and they will try to bail out with the minimum loss possible, which will unfortunately leave your tin-pot club with its trousers around its ankles. The answer? Administration. http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/0/football/24 787872[/p][/quote]zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz[/p][/quote]And that says it all about you deluded fools, pretend its not happening and maybe it will all go away and you'll wake up tomorrow morning in the premier league, with premier league players, a premier league manager, a premier league management structure, and John Williams will still be in charge, and people will like Blackburn Rovers once again, and you won't be a laughingstock, and Jack will still be here jizzing his life savings away on you ungrateful morons. Well unfortunately Mungo, it's 2014 and your club in on the brink of a complete financial meltdown, only you 95'ers just won't believe it until its actually happened. I look forward to watching the whole diabolical mess unfold. Couldn't happen to a nicer club. chicken.pluckers
  • Score: 1

11:08pm Wed 22 Jan 14

mammamiauk says...

Whilst I dislike the larger clubs (eg Manchester United) where the players do not give a toss about their fans who pay their hard-earned money to watch their team, etc, whatever the Dingle fans have commented/posted about our Rovers here, I certainly would not wish what is happening at Rovers to be happening at other football clubs even if a certain other club is our greatest rival (or should I say enemy). It is an awful situation for any supporter to be in and not knowing what is happening due to non-communication by owners who just do not care about the supporters who are the backbone of the club (amongst other issues)!
Whilst I dislike the larger clubs (eg Manchester United) where the players do not give a toss about their fans who pay their hard-earned money to watch their team, etc, whatever the Dingle fans have commented/posted about our Rovers here, I certainly would not wish what is happening at Rovers to be happening at other football clubs even if a certain other club is our greatest rival (or should I say enemy). It is an awful situation for any supporter to be in and not knowing what is happening due to non-communication by owners who just do not care about the supporters who are the backbone of the club (amongst other issues)! mammamiauk
  • Score: 1

8:32am Thu 23 Jan 14

greenscreener says...

owd nick wrote:
peely wrote:
tall in the saddle wrote:
The Venkys may or may not be billionaires. I don’t know and I doubt many posting on this thread do. However, they are rich and obviously good at their Business. The debt they have accrued from the ownership of Rovers cannot however be called ‘savvy’ business at all. Nor I doubt can it be written off against tax in India, as the debt is to a UK business ie Blackburn Rovers. The debt must be sustainable to them, for now, so selling players for £8 or £9 million is small in the scale of things. Also they are trimming down the bloated and expensive squad. So, Rhodes would only go if he wants to and is able force a move. For this and keeping them out of administration the Rovers fans should be very grateful to the Venkys. However the question has to be asked why have they bought Blackburn Rovers and what will they do with it? Surely they don’t have a love of football or of Blackburn so what is their plan? If Rovers are not promoted this season what happens then???
" If Rovers are not promoted what happens then " ? According to rumours coming from within Ewood the priority this season is to get enough points on the board to safeguard them from getting relegated when they get the points deduction that automatically comes from going into administration ,which believe it or not is a definite possibility ! Make of that what you will but from a very good source !
It wouldn't surprise me at all, its the way I have been thinking for a while and not as daft as it sounds.

None of the Championship clubs I have seen so far this season have a hope of surviving in the PL next season without spending £70 to 80 million and even then they would have little chance;

Rovers certainly wouldn't, and I would actually love Burnley to go up, then come back down with less than 10 points next season when we take their place.

Get the points, go into administration with a decent young side that can only get better, set up a new ownership company with a business plan and no debt and start again next season with a clean sheet.

Southampton, Swansea.....etc; etc anyone?

Don't forget our only creditors are Venky's themselves and £11 million in the form of an overdraft with the national bank of India.

All we have to do is get rid of the crap that Anderson, Kean and Singh lumbered us with first, they certainly saw Venky's coming.

I haven't quite worked out why Anderson hasn't been hit by the Indian Mafia yet.

Immoral? Not really, the only people who get hurt are Venky's (who deserve it) and the bank, ditto.

Legal? Absolutely.
Now then Nick, I am a little surprised that you don't consider the actions of those greedy men as immoral. They may have played the Venkys for fools but this was not an accident, it was wilful inappropriate trading, and in the process a lot of good people have lost their jobs, or seen their businesses suffer from the chaos wreaked down at BRFC. It cannot even be considered reckless gambling, because the agents profit from the transaction, not the outcome. The fact that those responsible walked away with millions is, in my mind, totally immoral.
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peely[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tall in the saddle[/bold] wrote: The Venkys may or may not be billionaires. I don’t know and I doubt many posting on this thread do. However, they are rich and obviously good at their Business. The debt they have accrued from the ownership of Rovers cannot however be called ‘savvy’ business at all. Nor I doubt can it be written off against tax in India, as the debt is to a UK business ie Blackburn Rovers. The debt must be sustainable to them, for now, so selling players for £8 or £9 million is small in the scale of things. Also they are trimming down the bloated and expensive squad. So, Rhodes would only go if he wants to and is able force a move. For this and keeping them out of administration the Rovers fans should be very grateful to the Venkys. However the question has to be asked why have they bought Blackburn Rovers and what will they do with it? Surely they don’t have a love of football or of Blackburn so what is their plan? If Rovers are not promoted this season what happens then???[/p][/quote]" If Rovers are not promoted what happens then " ? According to rumours coming from within Ewood the priority this season is to get enough points on the board to safeguard them from getting relegated when they get the points deduction that automatically comes from going into administration ,which believe it or not is a definite possibility ! Make of that what you will but from a very good source ![/p][/quote]It wouldn't surprise me at all, its the way I have been thinking for a while and not as daft as it sounds. None of the Championship clubs I have seen so far this season have a hope of surviving in the PL next season without spending £70 to 80 million and even then they would have little chance; Rovers certainly wouldn't, and I would actually love Burnley to go up, then come back down with less than 10 points next season when we take their place. Get the points, go into administration with a decent young side that can only get better, set up a new ownership company with a business plan and no debt and start again next season with a clean sheet. Southampton, Swansea.....etc; etc anyone? Don't forget our only creditors are Venky's themselves and £11 million in the form of an overdraft with the national bank of India. All we have to do is get rid of the crap that Anderson, Kean and Singh lumbered us with first, they certainly saw Venky's coming. I haven't quite worked out why Anderson hasn't been hit by the Indian Mafia yet. Immoral? Not really, the only people who get hurt are Venky's (who deserve it) and the bank, ditto. Legal? Absolutely.[/p][/quote]Now then Nick, I am a little surprised that you don't consider the actions of those greedy men as immoral. They may have played the Venkys for fools but this was not an accident, it was wilful inappropriate trading, and in the process a lot of good people have lost their jobs, or seen their businesses suffer from the chaos wreaked down at BRFC. It cannot even be considered reckless gambling, because the agents profit from the transaction, not the outcome. The fact that those responsible walked away with millions is, in my mind, totally immoral. greenscreener
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9:36am Thu 23 Jan 14

owd nick says...

greenscreener wrote:
owd nick wrote:
peely wrote:
tall in the saddle wrote:
The Venkys may or may not be billionaires. I don’t know and I doubt many posting on this thread do. However, they are rich and obviously good at their Business. The debt they have accrued from the ownership of Rovers cannot however be called ‘savvy’ business at all. Nor I doubt can it be written off against tax in India, as the debt is to a UK business ie Blackburn Rovers. The debt must be sustainable to them, for now, so selling players for £8 or £9 million is small in the scale of things. Also they are trimming down the bloated and expensive squad. So, Rhodes would only go if he wants to and is able force a move. For this and keeping them out of administration the Rovers fans should be very grateful to the Venkys. However the question has to be asked why have they bought Blackburn Rovers and what will they do with it? Surely they don’t have a love of football or of Blackburn so what is their plan? If Rovers are not promoted this season what happens then???
" If Rovers are not promoted what happens then " ? According to rumours coming from within Ewood the priority this season is to get enough points on the board to safeguard them from getting relegated when they get the points deduction that automatically comes from going into administration ,which believe it or not is a definite possibility ! Make of that what you will but from a very good source !
It wouldn't surprise me at all, its the way I have been thinking for a while and not as daft as it sounds.

None of the Championship clubs I have seen so far this season have a hope of surviving in the PL next season without spending £70 to 80 million and even then they would have little chance;

Rovers certainly wouldn't, and I would actually love Burnley to go up, then come back down with less than 10 points next season when we take their place.

Get the points, go into administration with a decent young side that can only get better, set up a new ownership company with a business plan and no debt and start again next season with a clean sheet.

Southampton, Swansea.....etc; etc anyone?

Don't forget our only creditors are Venky's themselves and £11 million in the form of an overdraft with the national bank of India.

All we have to do is get rid of the crap that Anderson, Kean and Singh lumbered us with first, they certainly saw Venky's coming.

I haven't quite worked out why Anderson hasn't been hit by the Indian Mafia yet.

Immoral? Not really, the only people who get hurt are Venky's (who deserve it) and the bank, ditto.

Legal? Absolutely.
Now then Nick, I am a little surprised that you don't consider the actions of those greedy men as immoral. They may have played the Venkys for fools but this was not an accident, it was wilful inappropriate trading, and in the process a lot of good people have lost their jobs, or seen their businesses suffer from the chaos wreaked down at BRFC. It cannot even be considered reckless gambling, because the agents profit from the transaction, not the outcome. The fact that those responsible walked away with millions is, in my mind, totally immoral.
Sorry you misunderstood me, I was purely referring to a possible opportunity for Rovers to start afresh that's all.

What certain people did in the past wasn't illegal, they saw an opportunity to make money and Rovers were ripe for the taking, as I suspect were Venky's to a certain extent.

It was business, it made them, agents, managers, coaches and players rich, or richer and it will be the best part of 2 years before the effects on the club wear off.

The club only has 11 months.and I am pretty sure Venky's will have looked at all possible options by now.
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peely[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tall in the saddle[/bold] wrote: The Venkys may or may not be billionaires. I don’t know and I doubt many posting on this thread do. However, they are rich and obviously good at their Business. The debt they have accrued from the ownership of Rovers cannot however be called ‘savvy’ business at all. Nor I doubt can it be written off against tax in India, as the debt is to a UK business ie Blackburn Rovers. The debt must be sustainable to them, for now, so selling players for £8 or £9 million is small in the scale of things. Also they are trimming down the bloated and expensive squad. So, Rhodes would only go if he wants to and is able force a move. For this and keeping them out of administration the Rovers fans should be very grateful to the Venkys. However the question has to be asked why have they bought Blackburn Rovers and what will they do with it? Surely they don’t have a love of football or of Blackburn so what is their plan? If Rovers are not promoted this season what happens then???[/p][/quote]" If Rovers are not promoted what happens then " ? According to rumours coming from within Ewood the priority this season is to get enough points on the board to safeguard them from getting relegated when they get the points deduction that automatically comes from going into administration ,which believe it or not is a definite possibility ! Make of that what you will but from a very good source ![/p][/quote]It wouldn't surprise me at all, its the way I have been thinking for a while and not as daft as it sounds. None of the Championship clubs I have seen so far this season have a hope of surviving in the PL next season without spending £70 to 80 million and even then they would have little chance; Rovers certainly wouldn't, and I would actually love Burnley to go up, then come back down with less than 10 points next season when we take their place. Get the points, go into administration with a decent young side that can only get better, set up a new ownership company with a business plan and no debt and start again next season with a clean sheet. Southampton, Swansea.....etc; etc anyone? Don't forget our only creditors are Venky's themselves and £11 million in the form of an overdraft with the national bank of India. All we have to do is get rid of the crap that Anderson, Kean and Singh lumbered us with first, they certainly saw Venky's coming. I haven't quite worked out why Anderson hasn't been hit by the Indian Mafia yet. Immoral? Not really, the only people who get hurt are Venky's (who deserve it) and the bank, ditto. Legal? Absolutely.[/p][/quote]Now then Nick, I am a little surprised that you don't consider the actions of those greedy men as immoral. They may have played the Venkys for fools but this was not an accident, it was wilful inappropriate trading, and in the process a lot of good people have lost their jobs, or seen their businesses suffer from the chaos wreaked down at BRFC. It cannot even be considered reckless gambling, because the agents profit from the transaction, not the outcome. The fact that those responsible walked away with millions is, in my mind, totally immoral.[/p][/quote]Sorry you misunderstood me, I was purely referring to a possible opportunity for Rovers to start afresh that's all. What certain people did in the past wasn't illegal, they saw an opportunity to make money and Rovers were ripe for the taking, as I suspect were Venky's to a certain extent. It was business, it made them, agents, managers, coaches and players rich, or richer and it will be the best part of 2 years before the effects on the club wear off. The club only has 11 months.and I am pretty sure Venky's will have looked at all possible options by now. owd nick
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10:29am Thu 23 Jan 14

jim 2012 says...

chicken.pluckers wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
jim 2012 wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to:
1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt)
2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers.
Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.
who do you think rovers owe the bullk of the debt to I will give you a clue
it begins with the letter V and they are billionaires
Is it a gift?

No, it's a loan. It has to be paid back.

If Venky's are so rich why don't they just write it off? Bet you can't answer that one can you Mungo?

Fool.
It's called being business savvy you fool, shrewd in other words. They won't write the debt off but use it to their own advantage.
Don't you dare ever go into business. You wouldn't last two minutes.
Please explain how they are using a loss making enterprise to their own advantage? How is having a net debt of £56 million from a business you bought 3 years ago for £23 million, in any way positive?

How you seen the state of Venky's share price in recent years?

Suggest you wind your neck as you are looking very silly indeed right now.
I take it you have never heard debts are a legitimate business expense. Writing off a bad debt reduces your tax liability
[quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jim 2012[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to: 1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt) 2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers. Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.[/p][/quote]who do you think rovers owe the bullk of the debt to I will give you a clue it begins with the letter V and they are billionaires[/p][/quote]Is it a gift? No, it's a loan. It has to be paid back. If Venky's are so rich why don't they just write it off? Bet you can't answer that one can you Mungo? Fool.[/p][/quote]It's called being business savvy you fool, shrewd in other words. They won't write the debt off but use it to their own advantage. Don't you dare ever go into business. You wouldn't last two minutes.[/p][/quote]Please explain how they are using a loss making enterprise to their own advantage? How is having a net debt of £56 million from a business you bought 3 years ago for £23 million, in any way positive? How you seen the state of Venky's share price in recent years? Suggest you wind your neck as you are looking very silly indeed right now.[/p][/quote]I take it you have never heard debts are a legitimate business expense. Writing off a bad debt reduces your tax liability jim 2012
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10:41am Thu 23 Jan 14

jim 2012 says...

chicken.pluckers wrote:
Wild Rover wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
jim 2012 wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
Truerover85 wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to:
1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt)
2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers.
Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.
Somebody remind this tool that Venky are billion airs. Remind me how much the Burnley chairmens worth again. 56million is a drop in the ocean of money those seedy indian pirates have in their chicken coop!

Also do you honestly think your few good players will stick with Burnley if you dont get premoted? Thats how football works u knobb sack!
So why then have they allowed you to be punished with a transfer embargo as of next season? Its called making a MASSIVE loss. You can't buy your way out of trouble any more you mug.

Burnley are a well-respected, well-run, proper football club, challenging for promotion to the Premier League, something which Blackburn Rovers will never be.

And we're 14 points ahead of you morons. Hows that sound?
the transfer embargo will begin on the first of january 2015
it will only apply to clubs that can't inject equity in there club
to cover any loss over £ 3 to £8 million
the ffp rules do not cover a football clubs debt
if it did over half of the premier league clubs who'd be out of business
I'm afraid you are in for a big shock my friend. Maybe I didn't make it clear enough, let me define financial meltdown for you...

"By the 2015/16 season, losses in the Championship can be no more than £5m and shareholders are only permitted to invest £3m of their own cash.

Blackburn Rovers are top of the list of the clubs at risk of incurring penalties. Their announced losses for last year were £36.5 million which included £3.5m on agent's fees. At the very least they will face a transfer embargo. Parachute payments for this season have now been halved and so the club will incur a further loss of £8 million.

Their accounts reveal a staggering £27.3m drop in turnover and a worrying 136.1 per cent wages-to-turnover ratio for the year ending 2013, with wages totalling £36.6m. There was an operating loss of £24.3m.

They also show that the club's net debt has risen from £24.5m to £56.5m. While most of the loss in turnover was due to the disappearance of Premier League payments, £1.1m was down to a sharp drop in average attendances from 22,591 to 14,997 last season. Attendances have since fallen further during the 2013/14 season.

The club’s overall debt of £56.5m consists of a £36.1m loan from Venky’s, plus a £13.7m loan from the State Bank of India, which must be repaid within 12 months.

Chief executive Derek Show commented, 'We can't keep these type of losses up. It is very, very difficult.'The way forward is far from clear."

The drop in commercial, media and gate revenue could see the club forced to sell £8m club record signing Jordan Rhodes in January in order to reduce losses."


To sum it up for you, Blackburn Rovers are up financial sh!t creek without a paddle. The sale of Jordan Rhodes to recoup the additional loss through the drop in parachute payments is as good as done. Mr Redknapp will be well aware of this.

Read it and weep no-dads, the free ride ends here....
Nice bit of selective editing there Gimpo, especially the bit where you put different words in Derek Shaws quote....
Almost convincing
But like all your fantasy it just wishful thinking
Reality check?
It's you that needs one, and that will come in May
Read it and weep Mungo. The words of your own Chief Executive. Time for you to wind your neck in I think.

http://www.footballe

conomy.com/content/b

lackburn-post-big-lo

ss

To summarise, your club is Donald Ducked.
I take it you have never heard debts are a legitimate business expense. Writing off a bad debt reduces your tax liability
[quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jim 2012[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Truerover85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to: 1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt) 2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers. Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.[/p][/quote]Somebody remind this tool that Venky are billion airs. Remind me how much the Burnley chairmens worth again. 56million is a drop in the ocean of money those seedy indian pirates have in their chicken coop! Also do you honestly think your few good players will stick with Burnley if you dont get premoted? Thats how football works u knobb sack![/p][/quote]So why then have they allowed you to be punished with a transfer embargo as of next season? Its called making a MASSIVE loss. You can't buy your way out of trouble any more you mug. Burnley are a well-respected, well-run, proper football club, challenging for promotion to the Premier League, something which Blackburn Rovers will never be. And we're 14 points ahead of you morons. Hows that sound?[/p][/quote]the transfer embargo will begin on the first of january 2015 it will only apply to clubs that can't inject equity in there club to cover any loss over £ 3 to £8 million the ffp rules do not cover a football clubs debt if it did over half of the premier league clubs who'd be out of business[/p][/quote]I'm afraid you are in for a big shock my friend. Maybe I didn't make it clear enough, let me define financial meltdown for you... "By the 2015/16 season, losses in the Championship can be no more than £5m and shareholders are only permitted to invest £3m of their own cash. Blackburn Rovers are top of the list of the clubs at risk of incurring penalties. Their announced losses for last year were £36.5 million which included £3.5m on agent's fees. At the very least they will face a transfer embargo. Parachute payments for this season have now been halved and so the club will incur a further loss of £8 million. Their accounts reveal a staggering £27.3m drop in turnover and a worrying 136.1 per cent wages-to-turnover ratio for the year ending 2013, with wages totalling £36.6m. There was an operating loss of £24.3m. They also show that the club's net debt has risen from £24.5m to £56.5m. While most of the loss in turnover was due to the disappearance of Premier League payments, £1.1m was down to a sharp drop in average attendances from 22,591 to 14,997 last season. Attendances have since fallen further during the 2013/14 season. The club’s overall debt of £56.5m consists of a £36.1m loan from Venky’s, plus a £13.7m loan from the State Bank of India, which must be repaid within 12 months. Chief executive Derek Show commented, 'We can't keep these type of losses up. It is very, very difficult.'The way forward is far from clear." The drop in commercial, media and gate revenue could see the club forced to sell £8m club record signing Jordan Rhodes in January in order to reduce losses." To sum it up for you, Blackburn Rovers are up financial sh!t creek without a paddle. The sale of Jordan Rhodes to recoup the additional loss through the drop in parachute payments is as good as done. Mr Redknapp will be well aware of this. Read it and weep no-dads, the free ride ends here....[/p][/quote]Nice bit of selective editing there Gimpo, especially the bit where you put different words in Derek Shaws quote.... Almost convincing But like all your fantasy it just wishful thinking Reality check? It's you that needs one, and that will come in May[/p][/quote]Read it and weep Mungo. The words of your own Chief Executive. Time for you to wind your neck in I think. http://www.footballe conomy.com/content/b lackburn-post-big-lo ss To summarise, your club is Donald Ducked.[/p][/quote]I take it you have never heard debts are a legitimate business expense. Writing off a bad debt reduces your tax liability jim 2012
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12:41pm Thu 23 Jan 14

jim 2012 says...

chicken.pluckers wrote:
Truerover85 wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to:
1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt)
2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers.
Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.
Somebody remind this tool that Venky are billion airs. Remind me how much the Burnley chairmens worth again. 56million is a drop in the ocean of money those seedy indian pirates have in their chicken coop!

Also do you honestly think your few good players will stick with Burnley if you dont get premoted? Thats how football works u knobb sack!
So why then have they allowed you to be punished with a transfer embargo as of next season? Its called making a MASSIVE loss. You can't buy your way out of trouble any more you mug.

Burnley are a well-respected, well-run, proper football club, challenging for promotion to the Premier League, something which Blackburn Rovers will never be.

And we're 14 points ahead of you morons. Hows that sound?
Blackburn rovers have not been punished with a transfer embargo
you only think that will happen
a transfer embargo will only become enforceable if
the owners of a football club can't inject money into a club to cover lossis
of over £ 3 and 8 million there will be no sanctions if the owners cover the losses
the MASSIVE loss you keep going on about IS NOT A LOSS it is a debt
I will let someone else explain the diffrence to you
as i do not want to tax your brain to much
[quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Truerover85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to: 1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt) 2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers. Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.[/p][/quote]Somebody remind this tool that Venky are billion airs. Remind me how much the Burnley chairmens worth again. 56million is a drop in the ocean of money those seedy indian pirates have in their chicken coop! Also do you honestly think your few good players will stick with Burnley if you dont get premoted? Thats how football works u knobb sack![/p][/quote]So why then have they allowed you to be punished with a transfer embargo as of next season? Its called making a MASSIVE loss. You can't buy your way out of trouble any more you mug. Burnley are a well-respected, well-run, proper football club, challenging for promotion to the Premier League, something which Blackburn Rovers will never be. And we're 14 points ahead of you morons. Hows that sound?[/p][/quote]Blackburn rovers have not been punished with a transfer embargo you only think that will happen a transfer embargo will only become enforceable if the owners of a football club can't inject money into a club to cover lossis of over £ 3 and 8 million there will be no sanctions if the owners cover the losses the MASSIVE loss you keep going on about IS NOT A LOSS it is a debt I will let someone else explain the diffrence to you as i do not want to tax your brain to much jim 2012
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12:52pm Thu 23 Jan 14

MatthewCA says...

QPR want all the striker in the championship , So they will keep the goal post safe in any match.
QPR want all the striker in the championship , So they will keep the goal post safe in any match. MatthewCA
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1:20pm Thu 23 Jan 14

chicken.pluckers says...

jim 2012 wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
Truerover85 wrote:
chicken.pluckers wrote:
Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to:
1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt)
2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers.
Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.
Somebody remind this tool that Venky are billion airs. Remind me how much the Burnley chairmens worth again. 56million is a drop in the ocean of money those seedy indian pirates have in their chicken coop!

Also do you honestly think your few good players will stick with Burnley if you dont get premoted? Thats how football works u knobb sack!
So why then have they allowed you to be punished with a transfer embargo as of next season? Its called making a MASSIVE loss. You can't buy your way out of trouble any more you mug.

Burnley are a well-respected, well-run, proper football club, challenging for promotion to the Premier League, something which Blackburn Rovers will never be.

And we're 14 points ahead of you morons. Hows that sound?
Blackburn rovers have not been punished with a transfer embargo
you only think that will happen
a transfer embargo will only become enforceable if
the owners of a football club can't inject money into a club to cover lossis
of over £ 3 and 8 million there will be no sanctions if the owners cover the losses
the MASSIVE loss you keep going on about IS NOT A LOSS it is a debt
I will let someone else explain the diffrence to you
as i do not want to tax your brain to much
Oh dear. You really don't understand this do you?

I suggest you read this as a starting point:

http://www.financial
fairplay.co.uk/finan
cial-fair-play-expla
ined.php

Note the section on the Championship, in particular the point which states the MAXIMUM permitted loss is £8 million (As I've told you now three times). This means REGARDLESS of how much money your owners may have, if you club as a business cannot limit its annual loss to £8 million you WILL face punishment. Your losses are £36.5million for the last financial year and highly likely to be even worse in the current financial year due to the reduction in parachute payments.

£36.5million LOSS: http://www.bbc.co.uk
/sport/0/football/24
787872

the sanction imposed in this case is a transfer ban for clubs which overspend. Blackburn Rovers overspent MASSIVELY in the first Championship season in their failed attempt at returning to the Premier League, they overspent MASSIVELY on a string of failed, and handsomely paid off, no-mark managers, and they overspent MASSIVELY on wages for several poor signings who are now contracted to the club for the next few seasons.

This is why you WILL BE subject to a transfer embargo next season.

I really can't make it any simpler for you. Even your fellow no-dads have chosen to let you keep digging yourself into a hole. Stop digging.
[quote][p][bold]jim 2012[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Truerover85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chicken.pluckers[/bold] wrote: Redknapp is very shrewd when it comes to getting the player he wants. QPR have to go all out for promotion this season or they will be in as big a financial mess as Blackburn next season. Harry will bide his time then come in with an offer that Venky's will be forced to accept due to: 1. Financial reasons (£56 Million debt) 2. Rhodes wanting premier league football which he will never get with Blackburn Rovers. Expect him to be off for between 6 and 8 million late in the transfer window.[/p][/quote]Somebody remind this tool that Venky are billion airs. Remind me how much the Burnley chairmens worth again. 56million is a drop in the ocean of money those seedy indian pirates have in their chicken coop! Also do you honestly think your few good players will stick with Burnley if you dont get premoted? Thats how football works u knobb sack![/p][/quote]So why then have they allowed you to be punished with a transfer embargo as of next season? Its called making a MASSIVE loss. You can't buy your way out of trouble any more you mug. Burnley are a well-respected, well-run, proper football club, challenging for promotion to the Premier League, something which Blackburn Rovers will never be. And we're 14 points ahead of you morons. Hows that sound?[/p][/quote]Blackburn rovers have not been punished with a transfer embargo you only think that will happen a transfer embargo will only become enforceable if the owners of a football club can't inject money into a club to cover lossis of over £ 3 and 8 million there will be no sanctions if the owners cover the losses the MASSIVE loss you keep going on about IS NOT A LOSS it is a debt I will let someone else explain the diffrence to you as i do not want to tax your brain to much[/p][/quote]Oh dear. You really don't understand this do you? I suggest you read this as a starting point: http://www.financial fairplay.co.uk/finan cial-fair-play-expla ined.php Note the section on the Championship, in particular the point which states the MAXIMUM permitted loss is £8 million (As I've told you now three times). This means REGARDLESS of how much money your owners may have, if you club as a business cannot limit its annual loss to £8 million you WILL face punishment. Your losses are £36.5million for the last financial year and highly likely to be even worse in the current financial year due to the reduction in parachute payments. £36.5million LOSS: http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/0/football/24 787872 the sanction imposed in this case is a transfer ban for clubs which overspend. Blackburn Rovers overspent MASSIVELY in the first Championship season in their failed attempt at returning to the Premier League, they overspent MASSIVELY on a string of failed, and handsomely paid off, no-mark managers, and they overspent MASSIVELY on wages for several poor signings who are now contracted to the club for the next few seasons. This is why you WILL BE subject to a transfer embargo next season. I really can't make it any simpler for you. Even your fellow no-dads have chosen to let you keep digging yourself into a hole. Stop digging. chicken.pluckers
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