Paul Wheelock column: Drop the players who continue to make errors

Lancashire Telegraph: Gary Bowyer Gary Bowyer

ROVERS’ soft underbelly away from the home comforts of Ewood Park was horribly exposed on Tuesday night – and you could only feel sorry for the 302 hardy supporters who made the long trip to Ipswich.

They deserved so much better.

Unfortunately what they witnessed at Portman Road will not have come as a surprise.

Rovers have been their own worst enemies on their travels all season and, really, enough is enough.

That was the impression Gary Bowyer certainly gave in his post-match press conference.

It was clear from the first question put to him that the Rovers boss was seething.

Understandably, too, as it now seems after every away game he is having to address the individual mistakes that are costing his side so dear.

What makes it all the more frustrating, perplexing and downright annoying is that in front of their own fans, Rovers are rock solid.

The principles of defending as a team are generally the same at home as they are away.

But judging from what we have seen so far this season, Rovers are simply unable to apply them on the road.

It was illuminating that when Bowyer was asked, after the desperately disappointing defeat to Mick McCarthy’s men, why this was the case he offered the explanation that perhaps his players were lacking in mental toughness.

Well if that is the case repeat offenders need to toughen up fast or be dropped – because there is too much riding on it.

Yes there is still a hell of a long way to go and maybe it will only be after this month that we will have a clearer picture of who holds genuine aspirations of pushing for a play-off place.

But Tuesday’s wholly avoidable loss – and don’t forget Rovers were in control of the game at half-time – represented a massive missed opportunity.

Victory would have hauled Bowyer’s boys within two points of the top six going into this Saturday’s daunting trip to joint leaders QPR.

Even before the defeat to Ipswich it was going to be a tall order for wildly inconsistent Rovers to take anything from their London clash seeing as Harry Redknapp’s side have won eight and drawn one of their nine league matches at home, scoring 14 goals and conceding just two along the way.

But the very least the travelling supporters should expect at Loftus Road on Saturday – and make no mistake they will be there in their hundreds – is a display free of the type of disastrous errors away from home that have characterised and which are undermining their team’s season.

But if Rovers truly want to pay back the 302 fans who endured such a miserable evening in East Anglia on Tuesday evening, only a win will do.

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3:36pm Thu 5 Dec 13

Is Eckersley playing? says...

Deck chairs and the Titanic, pal.
Deck chairs and the Titanic, pal. Is Eckersley playing?

3:41pm Thu 5 Dec 13

Harwoodstblue says...

Too right, drop em and give someone else a chance. Certain players seem to be automatic choices no matter what. A few weeks out might help to concentrate the minds and encourage them to start to earn their wages.
Too right, drop em and give someone else a chance. Certain players seem to be automatic choices no matter what. A few weeks out might help to concentrate the minds and encourage them to start to earn their wages. Harwoodstblue

3:51pm Thu 5 Dec 13

Blolburn Roflers says...

Now then, now then.

I watched with delight as Ipswich went to the gym as a belated New Years resolution, with the express intention of training up their right arm over a period of months, so that they could send Jordan Rhodes FC sprawling back to school with an Archie backhand.

Lets be honest Wovers, this promotion thing was never going to happen was it?

You can see how a home win against a decent top half of the table team is enough to get the creative juices flowing, but to then lose (convincingly) against a markedly average team days later is so so so poor and not the mark of a promotion winning side.

I can say with my hand on my heart that i simply do not Wovers to go bust. That would be horrible.

However, if Wovers do not go up we are looking at a "Long Dong Leroy: Rage against the Planet of the Dwarves" situation.

The anology being Long Dong as a collective for The Taxman, The Bank, The Football League, The FA, Transfer Embargo, The British Judicial System, Bailiffs and Shebby Singh, and "The Planet Of The Dwarves, specifically Teenage Bo Dwarf that has been left home alone by her Dwarf parents = Blackburn Rovers

So what now for Wovers? Can you imagine what will happen if The Venkys see an opportunity to claw back 1/2 or 3/4 of the money they paid for Jordan Rhodes? Do you think they will cut and run?

It looks like The Black Hat isn't ready to follow in his footsteps, that's for sure. It just looks like he's due to carry on with his white-hot 1-in-6.5 striking ratio, which won't help Wovers.

I just don't know what to make of it all.

At least there's no mention of the word "luck" anywhere though, eh? Even the sternest mongstepper amongst the Rovers faithful will have been getting tired of that.

Lovely Jubbly
Now then, now then. I watched with delight as Ipswich went to the gym as a belated New Years resolution, with the express intention of training up their right arm over a period of months, so that they could send Jordan Rhodes FC sprawling back to school with an Archie backhand. Lets be honest Wovers, this promotion thing was never going to happen was it? You can see how a home win against a decent top half of the table team is enough to get the creative juices flowing, but to then lose (convincingly) against a markedly average team days later is so so so poor and not the mark of a promotion winning side. I can say with my hand on my heart that i simply do not Wovers to go bust. That would be horrible. However, if Wovers do not go up we are looking at a "Long Dong Leroy: Rage against the Planet of the Dwarves" situation. The anology being Long Dong as a collective for The Taxman, The Bank, The Football League, The FA, Transfer Embargo, The British Judicial System, Bailiffs and Shebby Singh, and "The Planet Of The Dwarves, specifically Teenage Bo Dwarf that has been left home alone by her Dwarf parents = Blackburn Rovers So what now for Wovers? Can you imagine what will happen if The Venkys see an opportunity to claw back 1/2 or 3/4 of the money they paid for Jordan Rhodes? Do you think they will cut and run? It looks like The Black Hat isn't ready to follow in his footsteps, that's for sure. It just looks like he's due to carry on with his white-hot 1-in-6.5 striking ratio, which won't help Wovers. I just don't know what to make of it all. At least there's no mention of the word "luck" anywhere though, eh? Even the sternest mongstepper amongst the Rovers faithful will have been getting tired of that. Lovely Jubbly Blolburn Roflers

4:15pm Thu 5 Dec 13

Harwoodstblue says...

Blolburn Roflers wrote:
Now then, now then. I watched with delight as Ipswich went to the gym as a belated New Years resolution, with the express intention of training up their right arm over a period of months, so that they could send Jordan Rhodes FC sprawling back to school with an Archie backhand. Lets be honest Wovers, this promotion thing was never going to happen was it? You can see how a home win against a decent top half of the table team is enough to get the creative juices flowing, but to then lose (convincingly) against a markedly average team days later is so so so poor and not the mark of a promotion winning side. I can say with my hand on my heart that i simply do not Wovers to go bust. That would be horrible. However, if Wovers do not go up we are looking at a "Long Dong Leroy: Rage against the Planet of the Dwarves" situation. The anology being Long Dong as a collective for The Taxman, The Bank, The Football League, The FA, Transfer Embargo, The British Judicial System, Bailiffs and Shebby Singh, and "The Planet Of The Dwarves, specifically Teenage Bo Dwarf that has been left home alone by her Dwarf parents = Blackburn Rovers So what now for Wovers? Can you imagine what will happen if The Venkys see an opportunity to claw back 1/2 or 3/4 of the money they paid for Jordan Rhodes? Do you think they will cut and run? It looks like The Black Hat isn't ready to follow in his footsteps, that's for sure. It just looks like he's due to carry on with his white-hot 1-in-6.5 striking ratio, which won't help Wovers. I just don't know what to make of it all. At least there's no mention of the word "luck" anywhere though, eh? Even the sternest mongstepper amongst the Rovers faithful will have been getting tired of that. Lovely Jubbly
Ha, it looks like WLUV (above) has got over the drubbing on Saturday and pulled his head out of his @rse again.
[quote][p][bold]Blolburn Roflers[/bold] wrote: Now then, now then. I watched with delight as Ipswich went to the gym as a belated New Years resolution, with the express intention of training up their right arm over a period of months, so that they could send Jordan Rhodes FC sprawling back to school with an Archie backhand. Lets be honest Wovers, this promotion thing was never going to happen was it? You can see how a home win against a decent top half of the table team is enough to get the creative juices flowing, but to then lose (convincingly) against a markedly average team days later is so so so poor and not the mark of a promotion winning side. I can say with my hand on my heart that i simply do not Wovers to go bust. That would be horrible. However, if Wovers do not go up we are looking at a "Long Dong Leroy: Rage against the Planet of the Dwarves" situation. The anology being Long Dong as a collective for The Taxman, The Bank, The Football League, The FA, Transfer Embargo, The British Judicial System, Bailiffs and Shebby Singh, and "The Planet Of The Dwarves, specifically Teenage Bo Dwarf that has been left home alone by her Dwarf parents = Blackburn Rovers So what now for Wovers? Can you imagine what will happen if The Venkys see an opportunity to claw back 1/2 or 3/4 of the money they paid for Jordan Rhodes? Do you think they will cut and run? It looks like The Black Hat isn't ready to follow in his footsteps, that's for sure. It just looks like he's due to carry on with his white-hot 1-in-6.5 striking ratio, which won't help Wovers. I just don't know what to make of it all. At least there's no mention of the word "luck" anywhere though, eh? Even the sternest mongstepper amongst the Rovers faithful will have been getting tired of that. Lovely Jubbly[/p][/quote]Ha, it looks like WLUV (above) has got over the drubbing on Saturday and pulled his head out of his @rse again. Harwoodstblue

4:29pm Thu 5 Dec 13

oneroveeer says...

Kean Kane Williamson Cambell should be dropped for qpr. Gestede eastmond cris taylor and hanley in! Also why isnt rochina back in he is MASSIVE for us?
Kean Kane Williamson Cambell should be dropped for qpr. Gestede eastmond cris taylor and hanley in! Also why isnt rochina back in he is MASSIVE for us? oneroveeer

5:01pm Thu 5 Dec 13

owd nick says...

So who do we replace the entire defence with Mr Wheelock? Because they all looked responsible to me.

And just how many "errors" do you consider to be acceptable before a player is dropped?

And what happens when the players who come in start to make "errors", should they be dropped as well?

You don't half talk some drivel, come back Andy Cryer, at least he know what he was talking about.
So who do we replace the entire defence with Mr Wheelock? Because they all looked responsible to me. And just how many "errors" do you consider to be acceptable before a player is dropped? And what happens when the players who come in start to make "errors", should they be dropped as well? You don't half talk some drivel, come back Andy Cryer, at least he know what he was talking about. owd nick

5:20pm Thu 5 Dec 13

Harwoodstblue says...

Give Kilgallon a chance, Henley also. Robbo can't come back soon enough for me. He can't drop any more clangers than Kean does and could give the defence confidence.
Give Kilgallon a chance, Henley also. Robbo can't come back soon enough for me. He can't drop any more clangers than Kean does and could give the defence confidence. Harwoodstblue

5:44pm Thu 5 Dec 13

Bill Carson says...

It's very easy to say drop those responsible for the individual errors, but on paper this season's squad is so thin and devoid of any real talent, it would actually make an inconsistent team even worse. I can only presume in GB's defense that he is selecting what he consider's his best 11. That said, I do not understand why Rochina and Gestede are not starting when available?
It's very easy to say drop those responsible for the individual errors, but on paper this season's squad is so thin and devoid of any real talent, it would actually make an inconsistent team even worse. I can only presume in GB's defense that he is selecting what he consider's his best 11. That said, I do not understand why Rochina and Gestede are not starting when available? Bill Carson

8:59pm Thu 5 Dec 13

BRFC:ThePeoplesChampions says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
Blolburn Roflers wrote:
Now then, now then. I watched with delight as Ipswich went to the gym as a belated New Years resolution, with the express intention of training up their right arm over a period of months, so that they could send Jordan Rhodes FC sprawling back to school with an Archie backhand. Lets be honest Wovers, this promotion thing was never going to happen was it? You can see how a home win against a decent top half of the table team is enough to get the creative juices flowing, but to then lose (convincingly) against a markedly average team days later is so so so poor and not the mark of a promotion winning side. I can say with my hand on my heart that i simply do not Wovers to go bust. That would be horrible. However, if Wovers do not go up we are looking at a "Long Dong Leroy: Rage against the Planet of the Dwarves" situation. The anology being Long Dong as a collective for The Taxman, The Bank, The Football League, The FA, Transfer Embargo, The British Judicial System, Bailiffs and Shebby Singh, and "The Planet Of The Dwarves, specifically Teenage Bo Dwarf that has been left home alone by her Dwarf parents = Blackburn Rovers So what now for Wovers? Can you imagine what will happen if The Venkys see an opportunity to claw back 1/2 or 3/4 of the money they paid for Jordan Rhodes? Do you think they will cut and run? It looks like The Black Hat isn't ready to follow in his footsteps, that's for sure. It just looks like he's due to carry on with his white-hot 1-in-6.5 striking ratio, which won't help Wovers. I just don't know what to make of it all. At least there's no mention of the word "luck" anywhere though, eh? Even the sternest mongstepper amongst the Rovers faithful will have been getting tired of that. Lovely Jubbly
Ha, it looks like WLUV (above) has got over the drubbing on Saturday and pulled his head out of his @rse again.
I know. What a fcuking baby.
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Blolburn Roflers[/bold] wrote: Now then, now then. I watched with delight as Ipswich went to the gym as a belated New Years resolution, with the express intention of training up their right arm over a period of months, so that they could send Jordan Rhodes FC sprawling back to school with an Archie backhand. Lets be honest Wovers, this promotion thing was never going to happen was it? You can see how a home win against a decent top half of the table team is enough to get the creative juices flowing, but to then lose (convincingly) against a markedly average team days later is so so so poor and not the mark of a promotion winning side. I can say with my hand on my heart that i simply do not Wovers to go bust. That would be horrible. However, if Wovers do not go up we are looking at a "Long Dong Leroy: Rage against the Planet of the Dwarves" situation. The anology being Long Dong as a collective for The Taxman, The Bank, The Football League, The FA, Transfer Embargo, The British Judicial System, Bailiffs and Shebby Singh, and "The Planet Of The Dwarves, specifically Teenage Bo Dwarf that has been left home alone by her Dwarf parents = Blackburn Rovers So what now for Wovers? Can you imagine what will happen if The Venkys see an opportunity to claw back 1/2 or 3/4 of the money they paid for Jordan Rhodes? Do you think they will cut and run? It looks like The Black Hat isn't ready to follow in his footsteps, that's for sure. It just looks like he's due to carry on with his white-hot 1-in-6.5 striking ratio, which won't help Wovers. I just don't know what to make of it all. At least there's no mention of the word "luck" anywhere though, eh? Even the sternest mongstepper amongst the Rovers faithful will have been getting tired of that. Lovely Jubbly[/p][/quote]Ha, it looks like WLUV (above) has got over the drubbing on Saturday and pulled his head out of his @rse again.[/p][/quote]I know. What a fcuking baby. BRFC:ThePeoplesChampions

9:01pm Thu 5 Dec 13

Wild Rover says...

Bill Carson wrote:
It's very easy to say drop those responsible for the individual errors, but on paper this season's squad is so thin and devoid of any real talent, it would actually make an inconsistent team even worse. I can only presume in GB's defense that he is selecting what he consider's his best 11. That said, I do not understand why Rochina and Gestede are not starting when available?
How about Rochina is only a couple of weeks into his comeback from serious injury and an operation. Maybe the medical professionals dont want to rush it and make his injury recurr?
And despite all the troll hype on here from some, talented as he may be, he is also a risk when he plays as he concedes posession in poor areas of the pitch
Gestede has been here a couple of weeks, injured for first game and on for last 15 on Tuesday. Most managers would not throw a new signing in at the deep end
Just a thought..or two
[quote][p][bold]Bill Carson[/bold] wrote: It's very easy to say drop those responsible for the individual errors, but on paper this season's squad is so thin and devoid of any real talent, it would actually make an inconsistent team even worse. I can only presume in GB's defense that he is selecting what he consider's his best 11. That said, I do not understand why Rochina and Gestede are not starting when available?[/p][/quote]How about Rochina is only a couple of weeks into his comeback from serious injury and an operation. Maybe the medical professionals dont want to rush it and make his injury recurr? And despite all the troll hype on here from some, talented as he may be, he is also a risk when he plays as he concedes posession in poor areas of the pitch Gestede has been here a couple of weeks, injured for first game and on for last 15 on Tuesday. Most managers would not throw a new signing in at the deep end Just a thought..or two Wild Rover

9:36pm Thu 5 Dec 13

Wild Rover says...

Blolburn Roflers wrote:
Now then, now then.

I watched with delight as Ipswich went to the gym as a belated New Years resolution, with the express intention of training up their right arm over a period of months, so that they could send Jordan Rhodes FC sprawling back to school with an Archie backhand.

Lets be honest Wovers, this promotion thing was never going to happen was it?

You can see how a home win against a decent top half of the table team is enough to get the creative juices flowing, but to then lose (convincingly) against a markedly average team days later is so so so poor and not the mark of a promotion winning side.

I can say with my hand on my heart that i simply do not Wovers to go bust. That would be horrible.

However, if Wovers do not go up we are looking at a "Long Dong Leroy: Rage against the Planet of the Dwarves" situation.

The anology being Long Dong as a collective for The Taxman, The Bank, The Football League, The FA, Transfer Embargo, The British Judicial System, Bailiffs and Shebby Singh, and "The Planet Of The Dwarves, specifically Teenage Bo Dwarf that has been left home alone by her Dwarf parents = Blackburn Rovers

So what now for Wovers? Can you imagine what will happen if The Venkys see an opportunity to claw back 1/2 or 3/4 of the money they paid for Jordan Rhodes? Do you think they will cut and run?

It looks like The Black Hat isn't ready to follow in his footsteps, that's for sure. It just looks like he's due to carry on with his white-hot 1-in-6.5 striking ratio, which won't help Wovers.

I just don't know what to make of it all.

At least there's no mention of the word "luck" anywhere though, eh? Even the sternest mongstepper amongst the Rovers faithful will have been getting tired of that.

Lovely Jubbly
WTF are you on? Have you been at the glue?
I cant even begin to decifer your rambling imbecile comments
Or is it the shock of reality kicking in as Burnley start the slide down the table we have warning you about WLUV?
[quote][p][bold]Blolburn Roflers[/bold] wrote: Now then, now then. I watched with delight as Ipswich went to the gym as a belated New Years resolution, with the express intention of training up their right arm over a period of months, so that they could send Jordan Rhodes FC sprawling back to school with an Archie backhand. Lets be honest Wovers, this promotion thing was never going to happen was it? You can see how a home win against a decent top half of the table team is enough to get the creative juices flowing, but to then lose (convincingly) against a markedly average team days later is so so so poor and not the mark of a promotion winning side. I can say with my hand on my heart that i simply do not Wovers to go bust. That would be horrible. However, if Wovers do not go up we are looking at a "Long Dong Leroy: Rage against the Planet of the Dwarves" situation. The anology being Long Dong as a collective for The Taxman, The Bank, The Football League, The FA, Transfer Embargo, The British Judicial System, Bailiffs and Shebby Singh, and "The Planet Of The Dwarves, specifically Teenage Bo Dwarf that has been left home alone by her Dwarf parents = Blackburn Rovers So what now for Wovers? Can you imagine what will happen if The Venkys see an opportunity to claw back 1/2 or 3/4 of the money they paid for Jordan Rhodes? Do you think they will cut and run? It looks like The Black Hat isn't ready to follow in his footsteps, that's for sure. It just looks like he's due to carry on with his white-hot 1-in-6.5 striking ratio, which won't help Wovers. I just don't know what to make of it all. At least there's no mention of the word "luck" anywhere though, eh? Even the sternest mongstepper amongst the Rovers faithful will have been getting tired of that. Lovely Jubbly[/p][/quote]WTF are you on? Have you been at the glue? I cant even begin to decifer your rambling imbecile comments Or is it the shock of reality kicking in as Burnley start the slide down the table we have warning you about WLUV? Wild Rover

9:47pm Thu 5 Dec 13

wacked1212@gmail.com says...

Wild Rover wrote:
Blolburn Roflers wrote:
Now then, now then.

I watched with delight as Ipswich went to the gym as a belated New Years resolution, with the express intention of training up their right arm over a period of months, so that they could send Jordan Rhodes FC sprawling back to school with an Archie backhand.

Lets be honest Wovers, this promotion thing was never going to happen was it?

You can see how a home win against a decent top half of the table team is enough to get the creative juices flowing, but to then lose (convincingly) against a markedly average team days later is so so so poor and not the mark of a promotion winning side.

I can say with my hand on my heart that i simply do not Wovers to go bust. That would be horrible.

However, if Wovers do not go up we are looking at a "Long Dong Leroy: Rage against the Planet of the Dwarves" situation.

The anology being Long Dong as a collective for The Taxman, The Bank, The Football League, The FA, Transfer Embargo, The British Judicial System, Bailiffs and Shebby Singh, and "The Planet Of The Dwarves, specifically Teenage Bo Dwarf that has been left home alone by her Dwarf parents = Blackburn Rovers

So what now for Wovers? Can you imagine what will happen if The Venkys see an opportunity to claw back 1/2 or 3/4 of the money they paid for Jordan Rhodes? Do you think they will cut and run?

It looks like The Black Hat isn't ready to follow in his footsteps, that's for sure. It just looks like he's due to carry on with his white-hot 1-in-6.5 striking ratio, which won't help Wovers.

I just don't know what to make of it all.

At least there's no mention of the word "luck" anywhere though, eh? Even the sternest mongstepper amongst the Rovers faithful will have been getting tired of that.

Lovely Jubbly
WTF are you on? Have you been at the glue?
I cant even begin to decifer your rambling imbecile comments
Or is it the shock of reality kicking in as Burnley start the slide down the table we have warning you about WLUV?
Oh look a funny nasty....I wonder if the baboon laughs at his tormented mong of a mother??????
[quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Blolburn Roflers[/bold] wrote: Now then, now then. I watched with delight as Ipswich went to the gym as a belated New Years resolution, with the express intention of training up their right arm over a period of months, so that they could send Jordan Rhodes FC sprawling back to school with an Archie backhand. Lets be honest Wovers, this promotion thing was never going to happen was it? You can see how a home win against a decent top half of the table team is enough to get the creative juices flowing, but to then lose (convincingly) against a markedly average team days later is so so so poor and not the mark of a promotion winning side. I can say with my hand on my heart that i simply do not Wovers to go bust. That would be horrible. However, if Wovers do not go up we are looking at a "Long Dong Leroy: Rage against the Planet of the Dwarves" situation. The anology being Long Dong as a collective for The Taxman, The Bank, The Football League, The FA, Transfer Embargo, The British Judicial System, Bailiffs and Shebby Singh, and "The Planet Of The Dwarves, specifically Teenage Bo Dwarf that has been left home alone by her Dwarf parents = Blackburn Rovers So what now for Wovers? Can you imagine what will happen if The Venkys see an opportunity to claw back 1/2 or 3/4 of the money they paid for Jordan Rhodes? Do you think they will cut and run? It looks like The Black Hat isn't ready to follow in his footsteps, that's for sure. It just looks like he's due to carry on with his white-hot 1-in-6.5 striking ratio, which won't help Wovers. I just don't know what to make of it all. At least there's no mention of the word "luck" anywhere though, eh? Even the sternest mongstepper amongst the Rovers faithful will have been getting tired of that. Lovely Jubbly[/p][/quote]WTF are you on? Have you been at the glue? I cant even begin to decifer your rambling imbecile comments Or is it the shock of reality kicking in as Burnley start the slide down the table we have warning you about WLUV?[/p][/quote]Oh look a funny nasty....I wonder if the baboon laughs at his tormented mong of a mother?????? wacked1212@gmail.com

10:49pm Thu 5 Dec 13

owd nick says...

Wild Rover wrote:
Bill Carson wrote:
It's very easy to say drop those responsible for the individual errors, but on paper this season's squad is so thin and devoid of any real talent, it would actually make an inconsistent team even worse. I can only presume in GB's defense that he is selecting what he consider's his best 11. That said, I do not understand why Rochina and Gestede are not starting when available?
How about Rochina is only a couple of weeks into his comeback from serious injury and an operation. Maybe the medical professionals dont want to rush it and make his injury recurr?
And despite all the troll hype on here from some, talented as he may be, he is also a risk when he plays as he concedes posession in poor areas of the pitch
Gestede has been here a couple of weeks, injured for first game and on for last 15 on Tuesday. Most managers would not throw a new signing in at the deep end
Just a thought..or two
Totally agree, Rochina looked like a fish out of water when he came on a couple of games ago, it will be weeks before he is anywhere near fit enough to start.

Gestede will get his chance and hopefully Dunny and Taylor will be back on Saturday.

And lets not forget that Corry Evans, who was having an excellent season before he picked up his injury should be back in the new year.

"Thin and void of any real talent?" Still measuring by the hump and hope teams we had in the PL are you Bill? lol.
[quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bill Carson[/bold] wrote: It's very easy to say drop those responsible for the individual errors, but on paper this season's squad is so thin and devoid of any real talent, it would actually make an inconsistent team even worse. I can only presume in GB's defense that he is selecting what he consider's his best 11. That said, I do not understand why Rochina and Gestede are not starting when available?[/p][/quote]How about Rochina is only a couple of weeks into his comeback from serious injury and an operation. Maybe the medical professionals dont want to rush it and make his injury recurr? And despite all the troll hype on here from some, talented as he may be, he is also a risk when he plays as he concedes posession in poor areas of the pitch Gestede has been here a couple of weeks, injured for first game and on for last 15 on Tuesday. Most managers would not throw a new signing in at the deep end Just a thought..or two[/p][/quote]Totally agree, Rochina looked like a fish out of water when he came on a couple of games ago, it will be weeks before he is anywhere near fit enough to start. Gestede will get his chance and hopefully Dunny and Taylor will be back on Saturday. And lets not forget that Corry Evans, who was having an excellent season before he picked up his injury should be back in the new year. "Thin and void of any real talent?" Still measuring by the hump and hope teams we had in the PL are you Bill? lol. owd nick

9:04am Fri 6 Dec 13

Bazzer says...

owd nick wrote:
Wild Rover wrote:
Bill Carson wrote:
It's very easy to say drop those responsible for the individual errors, but on paper this season's squad is so thin and devoid of any real talent, it would actually make an inconsistent team even worse. I can only presume in GB's defense that he is selecting what he consider's his best 11. That said, I do not understand why Rochina and Gestede are not starting when available?
How about Rochina is only a couple of weeks into his comeback from serious injury and an operation. Maybe the medical professionals dont want to rush it and make his injury recurr?
And despite all the troll hype on here from some, talented as he may be, he is also a risk when he plays as he concedes posession in poor areas of the pitch
Gestede has been here a couple of weeks, injured for first game and on for last 15 on Tuesday. Most managers would not throw a new signing in at the deep end
Just a thought..or two
Totally agree, Rochina looked like a fish out of water when he came on a couple of games ago, it will be weeks before he is anywhere near fit enough to start.

Gestede will get his chance and hopefully Dunny and Taylor will be back on Saturday.

And lets not forget that Corry Evans, who was having an excellent season before he picked up his injury should be back in the new year.

"Thin and void of any real talent?" Still measuring by the hump and hope teams we had in the PL are you Bill? lol.
"Hump and hope" teams in the Premier League? You anti Sam boys had your way - now we are no hump and no hope in the Championship?
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bill Carson[/bold] wrote: It's very easy to say drop those responsible for the individual errors, but on paper this season's squad is so thin and devoid of any real talent, it would actually make an inconsistent team even worse. I can only presume in GB's defense that he is selecting what he consider's his best 11. That said, I do not understand why Rochina and Gestede are not starting when available?[/p][/quote]How about Rochina is only a couple of weeks into his comeback from serious injury and an operation. Maybe the medical professionals dont want to rush it and make his injury recurr? And despite all the troll hype on here from some, talented as he may be, he is also a risk when he plays as he concedes posession in poor areas of the pitch Gestede has been here a couple of weeks, injured for first game and on for last 15 on Tuesday. Most managers would not throw a new signing in at the deep end Just a thought..or two[/p][/quote]Totally agree, Rochina looked like a fish out of water when he came on a couple of games ago, it will be weeks before he is anywhere near fit enough to start. Gestede will get his chance and hopefully Dunny and Taylor will be back on Saturday. And lets not forget that Corry Evans, who was having an excellent season before he picked up his injury should be back in the new year. "Thin and void of any real talent?" Still measuring by the hump and hope teams we had in the PL are you Bill? lol.[/p][/quote]"Hump and hope" teams in the Premier League? You anti Sam boys had your way - now we are no hump and no hope in the Championship? Bazzer

9:50am Fri 6 Dec 13

owd nick says...

Bazzer wrote:
owd nick wrote:
Wild Rover wrote:
Bill Carson wrote:
It's very easy to say drop those responsible for the individual errors, but on paper this season's squad is so thin and devoid of any real talent, it would actually make an inconsistent team even worse. I can only presume in GB's defense that he is selecting what he consider's his best 11. That said, I do not understand why Rochina and Gestede are not starting when available?
How about Rochina is only a couple of weeks into his comeback from serious injury and an operation. Maybe the medical professionals dont want to rush it and make his injury recurr?
And despite all the troll hype on here from some, talented as he may be, he is also a risk when he plays as he concedes posession in poor areas of the pitch
Gestede has been here a couple of weeks, injured for first game and on for last 15 on Tuesday. Most managers would not throw a new signing in at the deep end
Just a thought..or two
Totally agree, Rochina looked like a fish out of water when he came on a couple of games ago, it will be weeks before he is anywhere near fit enough to start.

Gestede will get his chance and hopefully Dunny and Taylor will be back on Saturday.

And lets not forget that Corry Evans, who was having an excellent season before he picked up his injury should be back in the new year.

"Thin and void of any real talent?" Still measuring by the hump and hope teams we had in the PL are you Bill? lol.
"Hump and hope" teams in the Premier League? You anti Sam boys had your way - now we are no hump and no hope in the Championship?
Just look what he is doing to West Ham, his yard dog centre forward out injured, playing a 4 - 6 formation, West Ham fans, real football fans hate his guts.

No hump and no hope in the championship? Well we might not be brilliant, but at least we try to play football when we can, something we never did the moment he took over.

I have watched Rovers teams play better football when they were at the bottom of the third division than that moron ever had us do, he and his cronies are a disgrace to football for more reasons than one.
[quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bill Carson[/bold] wrote: It's very easy to say drop those responsible for the individual errors, but on paper this season's squad is so thin and devoid of any real talent, it would actually make an inconsistent team even worse. I can only presume in GB's defense that he is selecting what he consider's his best 11. That said, I do not understand why Rochina and Gestede are not starting when available?[/p][/quote]How about Rochina is only a couple of weeks into his comeback from serious injury and an operation. Maybe the medical professionals dont want to rush it and make his injury recurr? And despite all the troll hype on here from some, talented as he may be, he is also a risk when he plays as he concedes posession in poor areas of the pitch Gestede has been here a couple of weeks, injured for first game and on for last 15 on Tuesday. Most managers would not throw a new signing in at the deep end Just a thought..or two[/p][/quote]Totally agree, Rochina looked like a fish out of water when he came on a couple of games ago, it will be weeks before he is anywhere near fit enough to start. Gestede will get his chance and hopefully Dunny and Taylor will be back on Saturday. And lets not forget that Corry Evans, who was having an excellent season before he picked up his injury should be back in the new year. "Thin and void of any real talent?" Still measuring by the hump and hope teams we had in the PL are you Bill? lol.[/p][/quote]"Hump and hope" teams in the Premier League? You anti Sam boys had your way - now we are no hump and no hope in the Championship?[/p][/quote]Just look what he is doing to West Ham, his yard dog centre forward out injured, playing a 4 - 6 formation, West Ham fans, real football fans hate his guts. No hump and no hope in the championship? Well we might not be brilliant, but at least we try to play football when we can, something we never did the moment he took over. I have watched Rovers teams play better football when they were at the bottom of the third division than that moron ever had us do, he and his cronies are a disgrace to football for more reasons than one. owd nick

9:52am Fri 6 Dec 13

cruzy_cruz says...

Anyone who thinks ANTHING at Ewood points towards promotion being a reaslistic and attainable ambition is a complete moron.

3rd rate manager, 3rd rate squad, diabolical boardroom, shambolic commercial department and imbecilic owners
Anyone who thinks ANTHING at Ewood points towards promotion being a reaslistic and attainable ambition is a complete moron. 3rd rate manager, 3rd rate squad, diabolical boardroom, shambolic commercial department and imbecilic owners cruzy_cruz

9:52am Fri 6 Dec 13

cruzy_cruz says...

woooop...."ANYTHING" I mean
woooop...."ANYTHING" I mean cruzy_cruz

12:10pm Fri 6 Dec 13

mickth says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
Give Kilgallon a chance, Henley also. Robbo can't come back soon enough for me. He can't drop any more clangers than Kean does and could give the defence confidence.
Hang on, I could have sworn I saw Kilgallon in the team at Blackpool and Brighton when the defending (last goal at Ipswich exepted) was just as bad
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: Give Kilgallon a chance, Henley also. Robbo can't come back soon enough for me. He can't drop any more clangers than Kean does and could give the defence confidence.[/p][/quote]Hang on, I could have sworn I saw Kilgallon in the team at Blackpool and Brighton when the defending (last goal at Ipswich exepted) was just as bad mickth

1:07pm Fri 6 Dec 13

noddy57 says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
Too right, drop em and give someone else a chance. Certain players seem to be automatic choices no matter what. A few weeks out might help to concentrate the minds and encourage them to start to earn their wages.
there should be no argument about who plays and who doesn,t ,,if Gary and shorty are doing their jobs right it should be straight forward enough every player puts in 100% anything less they are dropped,,its that simple,,there should be no automatic choices for anyone if there is then its a recipe for disaster,,,shake e,m up we need 3 points at Q p R,,period,
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: Too right, drop em and give someone else a chance. Certain players seem to be automatic choices no matter what. A few weeks out might help to concentrate the minds and encourage them to start to earn their wages.[/p][/quote]there should be no argument about who plays and who doesn,t ,,if Gary and shorty are doing their jobs right it should be straight forward enough every player puts in 100% anything less they are dropped,,its that simple,,there should be no automatic choices for anyone if there is then its a recipe for disaster,,,shake e,m up we need 3 points at Q p R,,period, noddy57

2:46pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Harwoodstblue says...

mickth wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote: Give Kilgallon a chance, Henley also. Robbo can't come back soon enough for me. He can't drop any more clangers than Kean does and could give the defence confidence.
Hang on, I could have sworn I saw Kilgallon in the team at Blackpool and Brighton when the defending (last goal at Ipswich exepted) was just as bad
How many games has he played?
Do you think he's had a proper chance to get into his stride or have you written him off already?
[quote][p][bold]mickth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: Give Kilgallon a chance, Henley also. Robbo can't come back soon enough for me. He can't drop any more clangers than Kean does and could give the defence confidence.[/p][/quote]Hang on, I could have sworn I saw Kilgallon in the team at Blackpool and Brighton when the defending (last goal at Ipswich exepted) was just as bad[/p][/quote]How many games has he played? Do you think he's had a proper chance to get into his stride or have you written him off already? Harwoodstblue

10:14pm Fri 6 Dec 13

michael.seed-donnelly says...

Gary is right to drop players who are making mistakes.The manager has also indicated a new formation is to be tried.I applaud this because we defend in numbers well but when our opponents defence has the ball there is only Jordan Rhodes to pressure them.So if is to be 3;5;2 with Henley and Spurr in midfield.To beat QPR we will need the energetic central midfield trio of Lowe,Taylor,and Cairney with Gestede and Rhodes up front.Then we can maybe bring Dunny and Josh on for last 20 minutes when our opponents tire.Whether 4.4.2 or 3.5.2 all the best Gary and the team.2-1 to Rovers
Mike seed-rivreside
Gary is right to drop players who are making mistakes.The manager has also indicated a new formation is to be tried.I applaud this because we defend in numbers well but when our opponents defence has the ball there is only Jordan Rhodes to pressure them.So if is to be 3;5;2 with Henley and Spurr in midfield.To beat QPR we will need the energetic central midfield trio of Lowe,Taylor,and Cairney with Gestede and Rhodes up front.Then we can maybe bring Dunny and Josh on for last 20 minutes when our opponents tire.Whether 4.4.2 or 3.5.2 all the best Gary and the team.2-1 to Rovers Mike seed-rivreside michael.seed-donnelly

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