Blackburn Rovers complete deal for Bowyer

Gary Bowyer

Gary Bowyer

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EWOOD Park officials were last night ready to unveil Gary Bowyer as Blackburn Rovers’ manager after finalising a deal with their caretaker boss.

Rovers chiefs were waiting for the final green light from owners Venky’s to make an official announcement after talks were completed for Bowyer to become manager on a full-time basis. Formal negotiations commenced this week after the 41-year-old returned late on Friday following a week-long holiday.

Bowyer has been backed for the job by managing director Derek Shaw, operations director Paul Agnew and global advisor Shebby Singh after helping Rovers avoid relegation to League One at the end of the season.

He held positive talks with the owners following the final game of the campaign on May 4, although Rovers have been waiting for the final go-ahead from Venky’s on the appointment.

Other possible candidates are understood to have been recommended to the owners in recent weeks, as was the case when Michael Appleton was installed as boss in January.

It is suggested that may have caused a certain amount of confusion within the Rao family over the best way forward, but officials at Ewood have pressed ahead with talks over the Bowyer deal.

They were last night ready to confirm the appointment, waiting only for the nod from Venky’s. Terry McPhillips and Tony Grant would be likely to continue supporting Bowyer as part of the first team backroom staff.

All three made the step up from their youth roles at the club when Appleton was sacked as manager in March.

The delays over the managerial appointment, which had originally been expected to happen at the end of last week, have also seen the club put back confirmation of details on season ticket prices for next season.

Rovers have been keen to get the managerial situation resolved before confirming prices shortly afterwards, something they hope they can do this week.

Tim Sherwood – the former Rovers captain who is now working as technical co-ordinator at Tottenham - had been linked with the Ewood job in recent days.

There were even suggestions even that Spurs had been contacted about the 44-year-old but staff at both clubs were left puzzled by those reports, unaware of any such events.

Sherwood stressed publicly that he was happy in his role at White Hart Lane – even though he admitted he may consider moving into management one day.

“Possibly,” he said. “At the moment I’m enjoying what I do, I’m at a great football club and it’s helped me develop.

“I’ve worked under some great managers here, it’s about learning and actually taking that step when it arises.

“If the opportunity arises and it’s something that’s attractive to me and I’ve lost love for what I’m doing at the place I’m at now then I’d consider it. But at the moment I’m happy in what I do.”

Rovers duo Jordan Rhodes and Grant Hanley have been named in the Scotland squad for a World Cup qualifier in Croatia on June 7.

Tim Payne has been confirmed in the New Zealand squad for the Under 20s World Cup in Turkey, which starts on June 21.

  • Former Rovers defender Zurab Khizanishvili, who has been playing for Turkish side Kayserispor, has been linked with a return to England with Leeds.

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9:53am Wed 22 May 13

35yearSurrenderMonkeys says...

Good luck Gary, top bloke.
Good luck Gary, top bloke. 35yearSurrenderMonkeys
  • Score: 20

9:54am Wed 22 May 13

owd nick says...

Then bloody well get on with it instead of stretching it out.
Then bloody well get on with it instead of stretching it out. owd nick
  • Score: 10

9:59am Wed 22 May 13

hasslem hasslem says...

i hope its true, really do - bu the headline is inconsistent with the first paragraph......has this been signed off, or not?

waiting for the green light is not saying he has been appointed and as we know the loons in pune have dodgy traffic lights.

everybody (well most people) with any sense knows that bowyer's appointment is the best possible solution for a club which is "out of control". apart from money and desperation i can't think why anybody outside the club would touch us with a bargepole at the moment.

i just hope that, for his sake, gary bowyer has a watertight contract a good lawyer and the full backing of the LMA.

if its true about the appointment - we should be pleased for him and rovers.
i hope its true, really do - bu the headline is inconsistent with the first paragraph......has this been signed off, or not? waiting for the green light is not saying he has been appointed and as we know the loons in pune have dodgy traffic lights. everybody (well most people) with any sense knows that bowyer's appointment is the best possible solution for a club which is "out of control". apart from money and desperation i can't think why anybody outside the club would touch us with a bargepole at the moment. i just hope that, for his sake, gary bowyer has a watertight contract a good lawyer and the full backing of the LMA. if its true about the appointment - we should be pleased for him and rovers. hasslem hasslem
  • Score: 11

10:01am Wed 22 May 13

Gammon Flap says...

Brilliant news - Steve Kean Mark 2.

Managerial experience is not a pre-requisite of a Blackburn boss apparently.

Good luck Agent Bowyer, you have a hard act to follow but we will be supporting you all they way from down the M65.

Venky's are football genuises - they are doing a sterling job.
Brilliant news - Steve Kean Mark 2. Managerial experience is not a pre-requisite of a Blackburn boss apparently. Good luck Agent Bowyer, you have a hard act to follow but we will be supporting you all they way from down the M65. Venky's are football genuises - they are doing a sterling job. Gammon Flap
  • Score: -30

10:12am Wed 22 May 13

lookupblackburn says...

Fantastic news! A big welcome to Agent Bowyer.

Another bib and cone man to commence the final stages of operation Take Rovers into League One.

In Venky's we trust!
Fantastic news! A big welcome to Agent Bowyer. Another bib and cone man to commence the final stages of operation Take Rovers into League One. In Venky's we trust! lookupblackburn
  • Score: -30

10:13am Wed 22 May 13

Dukes says...

lets see if he appointed because venkys cant make their mind up can there.
lets see if he appointed because venkys cant make their mind up can there. Dukes
  • Score: -8

10:16am Wed 22 May 13

Harwoodstblue says...

Gammon Flap wrote:
Brilliant news - Steve Kean Mark 2.

Managerial experience is not a pre-requisite of a Blackburn boss apparently.

Good luck Agent Bowyer, you have a hard act to follow but we will be supporting you all they way from down the M65.

Venky's are football genuises - they are doing a sterling job.
The first sign of a bit of common sense from Ewood in a long time. Why he was booted out for Appleton is anyones guess, but this is Venkys. Good luck GB and I hope they don't tie your hands behind your back then expect us to do well.
[quote][p][bold]Gammon Flap[/bold] wrote: Brilliant news - Steve Kean Mark 2. Managerial experience is not a pre-requisite of a Blackburn boss apparently. Good luck Agent Bowyer, you have a hard act to follow but we will be supporting you all they way from down the M65. Venky's are football genuises - they are doing a sterling job.[/p][/quote]The first sign of a bit of common sense from Ewood in a long time. Why he was booted out for Appleton is anyones guess, but this is Venkys. Good luck GB and I hope they don't tie your hands behind your back then expect us to do well. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 9

10:19am Wed 22 May 13

Angry From Accrington says...

Come back and tell us when it's confirmed
Come back and tell us when it's confirmed Angry From Accrington
  • Score: 8

10:19am Wed 22 May 13

Lancs - pensioner says...

How the hell have the Venkys made there millions, it's certainly not by being Pro-Active!!!!
How the hell have the Venkys made there millions, it's certainly not by being Pro-Active!!!! Lancs - pensioner
  • Score: 5

10:27am Wed 22 May 13

Harwoodstblue says...

If Shaw, Agnew and Singh have all backed Bowyer for the job, who are these 'people' who have been "Recommending other possible candidates?" as in the case of Appleton. It appears Venkys went elsewhere for their 'advice' on that occasion, their fault again.
Get behind GB and we could be in for a better season next year but only if the owners get behind him also.
If Shaw, Agnew and Singh have all backed Bowyer for the job, who are these 'people' who have been "Recommending other possible candidates?" as in the case of Appleton. It appears Venkys went elsewhere for their 'advice' on that occasion, their fault again. Get behind GB and we could be in for a better season next year but only if the owners get behind him also. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 3

10:30am Wed 22 May 13

35yearSurrenderMonkeys says...

hasslem hasslem wrote:
i hope its true, really do - bu the headline is inconsistent with the first paragraph......has this been signed off, or not?

waiting for the green light is not saying he has been appointed and as we know the loons in pune have dodgy traffic lights.

everybody (well most people) with any sense knows that bowyer's appointment is the best possible solution for a club which is "out of control". apart from money and desperation i can't think why anybody outside the club would touch us with a bargepole at the moment.

i just hope that, for his sake, gary bowyer has a watertight contract a good lawyer and the full backing of the LMA.

if its true about the appointment - we should be pleased for him and rovers.
One day the LMA will shut a club down to make sure its members pockets are full.
[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: i hope its true, really do - bu the headline is inconsistent with the first paragraph......has this been signed off, or not? waiting for the green light is not saying he has been appointed and as we know the loons in pune have dodgy traffic lights. everybody (well most people) with any sense knows that bowyer's appointment is the best possible solution for a club which is "out of control". apart from money and desperation i can't think why anybody outside the club would touch us with a bargepole at the moment. i just hope that, for his sake, gary bowyer has a watertight contract a good lawyer and the full backing of the LMA. if its true about the appointment - we should be pleased for him and rovers.[/p][/quote]One day the LMA will shut a club down to make sure its members pockets are full. 35yearSurrenderMonkeys
  • Score: -2

10:33am Wed 22 May 13

vicn1956 says...

Mrs.Desai-would you like a cup of tea?
Ummmmmm! Wait for it.
1st of June-Yes!
Mrs.Desai-would you like a cup of tea? Ummmmmm! Wait for it. 1st of June-Yes! vicn1956
  • Score: 2

10:36am Wed 22 May 13

srvp28 says...

Gammon Flap wrote:
'So you think Bowyer is a lying, 2 faced back stabbing drink driving spin doctor who believes in his own self proclaimed hype? '

Give him time - he has only just got the job.

What I do know is that he has the same amount of playing and managerial experience as his illustrious predecessor Sir Steve Kean (All praise his name).
And yet he still has a better win percentage than Dyche.
[quote][p][bold]Gammon Flap[/bold] wrote: 'So you think Bowyer is a lying, 2 faced back stabbing drink driving spin doctor who believes in his own self proclaimed hype? ' Give him time - he has only just got the job. What I do know is that he has the same amount of playing and managerial experience as his illustrious predecessor Sir Steve Kean (All praise his name).[/p][/quote]And yet he still has a better win percentage than Dyche. srvp28
  • Score: 22

10:37am Wed 22 May 13

chez rover says...

When Berg was sacked we had Bowyer to help, When Appleton got sacked we had Bowyer to help.

When Bowyer gets sacked, and he will because thats the type of oweners we have, who will be there to help us?

Hope i'm wrong but really can't see a positive outcome to this one.
Don't get me wrong i like Bowyer and think he deserves a crack at it but who's going to step in when he gets sacked? Shebby?
When Berg was sacked we had Bowyer to help, When Appleton got sacked we had Bowyer to help. When Bowyer gets sacked, and he will because thats the type of oweners we have, who will be there to help us? Hope i'm wrong but really can't see a positive outcome to this one. Don't get me wrong i like Bowyer and think he deserves a crack at it but who's going to step in when he gets sacked? Shebby? chez rover
  • Score: 8

10:38am Wed 22 May 13

French Rover says...

Good Luck GB....you fully deserve a crack at the job - nice to see someone appointed who has the support of all (or most) of all the Rovers fans...
Good Luck GB....you fully deserve a crack at the job - nice to see someone appointed who has the support of all (or most) of all the Rovers fans... French Rover
  • Score: 19

10:43am Wed 22 May 13

srvp28 says...

Another misleading headline, although I'd be very surprised if anybody other than Bowyer was appointed now. Personally, I think there are better options available but, as with all our past managers, I'll get behind whoever gets the job.
Another misleading headline, although I'd be very surprised if anybody other than Bowyer was appointed now. Personally, I think there are better options available but, as with all our past managers, I'll get behind whoever gets the job. srvp28
  • Score: 4

10:44am Wed 22 May 13

hasslem hasslem says...

35yearSurrenderMonke
ys
wrote:
hasslem hasslem wrote:
i hope its true, really do - bu the headline is inconsistent with the first paragraph......has this been signed off, or not?

waiting for the green light is not saying he has been appointed and as we know the loons in pune have dodgy traffic lights.

everybody (well most people) with any sense knows that bowyer's appointment is the best possible solution for a club which is "out of control". apart from money and desperation i can't think why anybody outside the club would touch us with a bargepole at the moment.

i just hope that, for his sake, gary bowyer has a watertight contract a good lawyer and the full backing of the LMA.

if its true about the appointment - we should be pleased for him and rovers.
One day the LMA will shut a club down to make sure its members pockets are full.
i think it much more likely that it would be the PFA that bankrupts a club.

i wouldn't normally give a stuff about the LMA - but the way these the three headed serpent of shaw, agnew and singh behave as well as the loons in pune - anybody taking on the role at blackburn needs strong backing from their trade union
[quote][p][bold]35yearSurrenderMonke ys[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: i hope its true, really do - bu the headline is inconsistent with the first paragraph......has this been signed off, or not? waiting for the green light is not saying he has been appointed and as we know the loons in pune have dodgy traffic lights. everybody (well most people) with any sense knows that bowyer's appointment is the best possible solution for a club which is "out of control". apart from money and desperation i can't think why anybody outside the club would touch us with a bargepole at the moment. i just hope that, for his sake, gary bowyer has a watertight contract a good lawyer and the full backing of the LMA. if its true about the appointment - we should be pleased for him and rovers.[/p][/quote]One day the LMA will shut a club down to make sure its members pockets are full.[/p][/quote]i think it much more likely that it would be the PFA that bankrupts a club. i wouldn't normally give a stuff about the LMA - but the way these the three headed serpent of shaw, agnew and singh behave as well as the loons in pune - anybody taking on the role at blackburn needs strong backing from their trade union hasslem hasslem
  • Score: 5

10:45am Wed 22 May 13

jinkyjase says...

Venkys company strap line should be
'Dazed and confused'
Venkys company strap line should be 'Dazed and confused' jinkyjase
  • Score: 0

10:46am Wed 22 May 13

lusorover says...

Hopefully this bit of common sense will be a turning point.

Not holding my breath; only time will tell.

Many congratulations to GB and his team. Undoubtedly the best man we could have hoped for as things stand.
Hopefully this bit of common sense will be a turning point. Not holding my breath; only time will tell. Many congratulations to GB and his team. Undoubtedly the best man we could have hoped for as things stand. lusorover
  • Score: 5

10:49am Wed 22 May 13

madrover says...

Gammon Flap wrote:
Brilliant news - Steve Kean Mark 2.

Managerial experience is not a pre-requisite of a Blackburn boss apparently.

Good luck Agent Bowyer, you have a hard act to follow but we will be supporting you all they way from down the M65.

Venky's are football genuises - they are doing a sterling job.
agent Dyche has already put plan A into practice getting rid of best players AUSTIN next
[quote][p][bold]Gammon Flap[/bold] wrote: Brilliant news - Steve Kean Mark 2. Managerial experience is not a pre-requisite of a Blackburn boss apparently. Good luck Agent Bowyer, you have a hard act to follow but we will be supporting you all they way from down the M65. Venky's are football genuises - they are doing a sterling job.[/p][/quote]agent Dyche has already put plan A into practice getting rid of best players AUSTIN next madrover
  • Score: 6

10:50am Wed 22 May 13

A Rover 45 years and over says...

Don't worry folks about the green light coming on, the fuse may have blown or the bulb has gone. It's been used a lot lately. Some one will have nipped out to the nearest hardware shop in Pune but it will get fixed eventually, just need a bit of patience.
Don't worry folks about the green light coming on, the fuse may have blown or the bulb has gone. It's been used a lot lately. Some one will have nipped out to the nearest hardware shop in Pune but it will get fixed eventually, just need a bit of patience. A Rover 45 years and over
  • Score: 0

11:06am Wed 22 May 13

A Darener says...

At least he should last longer than the last two managers! How long is it to the third match of the season?
At least he should last longer than the last two managers! How long is it to the third match of the season? A Darener
  • Score: 0

11:10am Wed 22 May 13

dangerous dave says...

GB must feel really wanted with this appointment - especially with the great 'hesitancy' by the Owners in confirming his appointment - yes must feel good to be probably second or even third choice!!!!!!!!!!! And as for the so called backing of the clowns Shaw Agnew and Singh - not a lot you can say.
Wish GB well but feel we are in for more of the same one crisis to another - just hope he gets some 'real' cash to spend instead of more freebies/unknowns/lo
ans but dont see this happening either - what a 'circus'!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH VENKYS HENDRY
GB must feel really wanted with this appointment - especially with the great 'hesitancy' by the Owners in confirming his appointment - yes must feel good to be probably second or even third choice!!!!!!!!!!! And as for the so called backing of the clowns Shaw Agnew and Singh - not a lot you can say. Wish GB well but feel we are in for more of the same one crisis to another - just hope he gets some 'real' cash to spend instead of more freebies/unknowns/lo ans but dont see this happening either - what a 'circus'!!!!!!!!!!!! !!! OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH VENKYS HENDRY dangerous dave
  • Score: 5

11:15am Wed 22 May 13

35yearSurrenderMonkeys says...

dangerous dave wrote:
GB must feel really wanted with this appointment - especially with the great 'hesitancy' by the Owners in confirming his appointment - yes must feel good to be probably second or even third choice!!!!!!!!!!! And as for the so called backing of the clowns Shaw Agnew and Singh - not a lot you can say.
Wish GB well but feel we are in for more of the same one crisis to another - just hope he gets some 'real' cash to spend instead of more freebies/unknowns/lo

ans but dont see this happening either - what a 'circus'!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH VENKYS HENDRY
What about out with season tickets? Maybe if you added that to the list they will anounce the new price list
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: GB must feel really wanted with this appointment - especially with the great 'hesitancy' by the Owners in confirming his appointment - yes must feel good to be probably second or even third choice!!!!!!!!!!! And as for the so called backing of the clowns Shaw Agnew and Singh - not a lot you can say. Wish GB well but feel we are in for more of the same one crisis to another - just hope he gets some 'real' cash to spend instead of more freebies/unknowns/lo ans but dont see this happening either - what a 'circus'!!!!!!!!!!!! !!! OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH VENKYS HENDRY[/p][/quote]What about out with season tickets? Maybe if you added that to the list they will anounce the new price list 35yearSurrenderMonkeys
  • Score: 4

11:17am Wed 22 May 13

lookupblackburn. says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
Gammon Flap wrote:
Brilliant news - Steve Kean Mark 2.

Managerial experience is not a pre-requisite of a Blackburn boss apparently.

Good luck Agent Bowyer, you have a hard act to follow but we will be supporting you all they way from down the M65.

Venky's are football genuises - they are doing a sterling job.
The first sign of a bit of common sense from Ewood in a long time. Why he was booted out for Appleton is anyones guess, but this is Venkys. Good luck GB and I hope they don't tie your hands behind your back then expect us to do well.
"The first sign of a bit of common sense from Ewood in a long time"

The above statement tells you all you need to know about your average Blackburn Rovers supporter.

Not content with seeing their club destroyed by a string of ineffective, inexperienced shaved space monkeys, they are now praising the appointment of yet another inexperienced bib and cone man on the back of a couple of lucky results against poor opposition.

When will you clowns learn, to compete in this league requires an experienced head, a man manager who can get the players to rise to the occasion and a personality to attract talent to the club. Bowyer may be a dab hand with the kids but he will be found out very quickly once the season starts. My money is on the first Blackburn fan to squeal "Bowyer out" after game 2 when you've been dismantled by Yeovil or some other mickey mouse outfit.

How many chances will you give Venky's?

You couldn't make this up.
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gammon Flap[/bold] wrote: Brilliant news - Steve Kean Mark 2. Managerial experience is not a pre-requisite of a Blackburn boss apparently. Good luck Agent Bowyer, you have a hard act to follow but we will be supporting you all they way from down the M65. Venky's are football genuises - they are doing a sterling job.[/p][/quote]The first sign of a bit of common sense from Ewood in a long time. Why he was booted out for Appleton is anyones guess, but this is Venkys. Good luck GB and I hope they don't tie your hands behind your back then expect us to do well.[/p][/quote]"The first sign of a bit of common sense from Ewood in a long time" The above statement tells you all you need to know about your average Blackburn Rovers supporter. Not content with seeing their club destroyed by a string of ineffective, inexperienced shaved space monkeys, they are now praising the appointment of yet another inexperienced bib and cone man on the back of a couple of lucky results against poor opposition. When will you clowns learn, to compete in this league requires an experienced head, a man manager who can get the players to rise to the occasion and a personality to attract talent to the club. Bowyer may be a dab hand with the kids but he will be found out very quickly once the season starts. My money is on the first Blackburn fan to squeal "Bowyer out" after game 2 when you've been dismantled by Yeovil or some other mickey mouse outfit. How many chances will you give Venky's? You couldn't make this up. lookupblackburn.
  • Score: -4

11:17am Wed 22 May 13

jack01 says...

Stop treating us like fools. It's quite clear that Bowyer was appointed manager as far back as his trip to India in April. For some reason they think they are being clever in not officially announcing it yet, even though the only outcome of Bowyers trip to India would have been for Desai to hand him the job.

Quite why we have to wait for this deal to be completed before announcing season ticket details I don't understand. I wouldn't have thought it would make any difference to potential season ticket buyers whether the manager is Bowyer or Sherwood. Most other Championship clubs were selling season tickets in March. We are soon to be in June and haven't even announced prices. Goes to show how much they want to sell tickets. They are simply not interested. The same applies to the new kit - one of the few clubs who haven't unveiled it yet. Presumably we will have another sponsor fiasco whereby we don't secure a sponsor, put merchandise on sale without sponsors on and then have to start sticking things on later in the season. A complete and utter joke.

It seems the general reasoning behind supporting Bowyers appointment consists of three points:
1) he has a decent record as caretaker
2) he's a nice guy
3) we won't or can't do any better

The sensible response to the above would be as follows:

1) many many many caretaker managers have had records similar to or better than Bowyers. It is very rare that they go on to be successful full time managers. Infact, I'm struggling to remember the last time it happened
2) The critical rule in football when appointing a manager is it doesn't matter one jot whether somebody is a nice guy or not. It has absolutely nothing to do with somebody's managerial capabilities or his prospects for success, and shouldn't ever play a role in determining an appointment. That is called letting your heart rule your head. Too many people would like Bowyer to get the job because 'he deserves a chance' or because 'he's a decent bloke', rather than sitting back and thinking about what is best for the club.
3) the suggestion we can't do any better than Bowyer is again, a myth. For some reason the decision makers at the club repeatedly refuse to appoint anyone with a track record in management. That doesn't mean we should accept that or be happy with it. There are dozens of out of work and lower league managers who would jump at the chance to manage what is a big Championship club with the biggest financial outlay outside the top flight and the best facilities.
Stop treating us like fools. It's quite clear that Bowyer was appointed manager as far back as his trip to India in April. For some reason they think they are being clever in not officially announcing it yet, even though the only outcome of Bowyers trip to India would have been for Desai to hand him the job. Quite why we have to wait for this deal to be completed before announcing season ticket details I don't understand. I wouldn't have thought it would make any difference to potential season ticket buyers whether the manager is Bowyer or Sherwood. Most other Championship clubs were selling season tickets in March. We are soon to be in June and haven't even announced prices. Goes to show how much they want to sell tickets. They are simply not interested. The same applies to the new kit - one of the few clubs who haven't unveiled it yet. Presumably we will have another sponsor fiasco whereby we don't secure a sponsor, put merchandise on sale without sponsors on and then have to start sticking things on later in the season. A complete and utter joke. It seems the general reasoning behind supporting Bowyers appointment consists of three points: 1) he has a decent record as caretaker 2) he's a nice guy 3) we won't or can't do any better The sensible response to the above would be as follows: 1) many many many caretaker managers have had records similar to or better than Bowyers. It is very rare that they go on to be successful full time managers. Infact, I'm struggling to remember the last time it happened 2) The critical rule in football when appointing a manager is it doesn't matter one jot whether somebody is a nice guy or not. It has absolutely nothing to do with somebody's managerial capabilities or his prospects for success, and shouldn't ever play a role in determining an appointment. That is called letting your heart rule your head. Too many people would like Bowyer to get the job because 'he deserves a chance' or because 'he's a decent bloke', rather than sitting back and thinking about what is best for the club. 3) the suggestion we can't do any better than Bowyer is again, a myth. For some reason the decision makers at the club repeatedly refuse to appoint anyone with a track record in management. That doesn't mean we should accept that or be happy with it. There are dozens of out of work and lower league managers who would jump at the chance to manage what is a big Championship club with the biggest financial outlay outside the top flight and the best facilities. jack01
  • Score: 2

11:22am Wed 22 May 13

A Darener says...

Mickey Mouse outfit? Would that be Burnley?
Mickey Mouse outfit? Would that be Burnley? A Darener
  • Score: 7

11:25am Wed 22 May 13

Stone Island: says...

Good luck to GB. The right choice at the right time. At least he knows what a shambles the club is, and he has the right tools to work with; Singh, Shaw and Agnew.
Good luck to GB. The right choice at the right time. At least he knows what a shambles the club is, and he has the right tools to work with; Singh, Shaw and Agnew. Stone Island:
  • Score: 1

11:36am Wed 22 May 13

Tatts says...

Great news!

Hopefully we can now bring an end to the madness.

Gary Bowyer's Blue and White Army!
Great news! Hopefully we can now bring an end to the madness. Gary Bowyer's Blue and White Army! Tatts
  • Score: 3

11:49am Wed 22 May 13

inflightmagazine says...

jack01 wrote:
Stop treating us like fools. It's quite clear that Bowyer was appointed manager as far back as his trip to India in April. For some reason they think they are being clever in not officially announcing it yet, even though the only outcome of Bowyers trip to India would have been for Desai to hand him the job. Quite why we have to wait for this deal to be completed before announcing season ticket details I don't understand. I wouldn't have thought it would make any difference to potential season ticket buyers whether the manager is Bowyer or Sherwood. Most other Championship clubs were selling season tickets in March. We are soon to be in June and haven't even announced prices. Goes to show how much they want to sell tickets. They are simply not interested. The same applies to the new kit - one of the few clubs who haven't unveiled it yet. Presumably we will have another sponsor fiasco whereby we don't secure a sponsor, put merchandise on sale without sponsors on and then have to start sticking things on later in the season. A complete and utter joke. It seems the general reasoning behind supporting Bowyers appointment consists of three points: 1) he has a decent record as caretaker 2) he's a nice guy 3) we won't or can't do any better The sensible response to the above would be as follows: 1) many many many caretaker managers have had records similar to or better than Bowyers. It is very rare that they go on to be successful full time managers. Infact, I'm struggling to remember the last time it happened 2) The critical rule in football when appointing a manager is it doesn't matter one jot whether somebody is a nice guy or not. It has absolutely nothing to do with somebody's managerial capabilities or his prospects for success, and shouldn't ever play a role in determining an appointment. That is called letting your heart rule your head. Too many people would like Bowyer to get the job because 'he deserves a chance' or because 'he's a decent bloke', rather than sitting back and thinking about what is best for the club. 3) the suggestion we can't do any better than Bowyer is again, a myth. For some reason the decision makers at the club repeatedly refuse to appoint anyone with a track record in management. That doesn't mean we should accept that or be happy with it. There are dozens of out of work and lower league managers who would jump at the chance to manage what is a big Championship club with the biggest financial outlay outside the top flight and the best facilities.
Not really sure I can agree with you hear Jack.

1) Managers have to start somewhere letting managers take a dip in as caretakers is probably less risky that appointing someone who is just an ex-player who might just make it Malky Mckay started as caretaker at Watford and just got Cardiff Promoted.

2) I do nt think peole are backing Gary because he is a nice bloke, what I saw was that he had an ability to manage the players and seemed to be able to get the best out of them, there are different sytles of management in football just like at work , i personnally prefer to work with the type of manager taht spends a bit of time understanding me and gets me working as part of a team rather than rips my head off every two minutes.

3) Who are these managers people want I gaurentee you could put any name on this forum and someone will have a reason why not to appoint them ? the perfect manager does not exsist and I personnaly would rather see someone who knows the real heart of this club at the helm .

Just opinions of mine and I am sure not everyone will agree but that the beauty of football
[quote][p][bold]jack01[/bold] wrote: Stop treating us like fools. It's quite clear that Bowyer was appointed manager as far back as his trip to India in April. For some reason they think they are being clever in not officially announcing it yet, even though the only outcome of Bowyers trip to India would have been for Desai to hand him the job. Quite why we have to wait for this deal to be completed before announcing season ticket details I don't understand. I wouldn't have thought it would make any difference to potential season ticket buyers whether the manager is Bowyer or Sherwood. Most other Championship clubs were selling season tickets in March. We are soon to be in June and haven't even announced prices. Goes to show how much they want to sell tickets. They are simply not interested. The same applies to the new kit - one of the few clubs who haven't unveiled it yet. Presumably we will have another sponsor fiasco whereby we don't secure a sponsor, put merchandise on sale without sponsors on and then have to start sticking things on later in the season. A complete and utter joke. It seems the general reasoning behind supporting Bowyers appointment consists of three points: 1) he has a decent record as caretaker 2) he's a nice guy 3) we won't or can't do any better The sensible response to the above would be as follows: 1) many many many caretaker managers have had records similar to or better than Bowyers. It is very rare that they go on to be successful full time managers. Infact, I'm struggling to remember the last time it happened 2) The critical rule in football when appointing a manager is it doesn't matter one jot whether somebody is a nice guy or not. It has absolutely nothing to do with somebody's managerial capabilities or his prospects for success, and shouldn't ever play a role in determining an appointment. That is called letting your heart rule your head. Too many people would like Bowyer to get the job because 'he deserves a chance' or because 'he's a decent bloke', rather than sitting back and thinking about what is best for the club. 3) the suggestion we can't do any better than Bowyer is again, a myth. For some reason the decision makers at the club repeatedly refuse to appoint anyone with a track record in management. That doesn't mean we should accept that or be happy with it. There are dozens of out of work and lower league managers who would jump at the chance to manage what is a big Championship club with the biggest financial outlay outside the top flight and the best facilities.[/p][/quote]Not really sure I can agree with you hear Jack. 1) Managers have to start somewhere letting managers take a dip in as caretakers is probably less risky that appointing someone who is just an ex-player who might just make it Malky Mckay started as caretaker at Watford and just got Cardiff Promoted. 2) I do nt think peole are backing Gary because he is a nice bloke, what I saw was that he had an ability to manage the players and seemed to be able to get the best out of them, there are different sytles of management in football just like at work , i personnally prefer to work with the type of manager taht spends a bit of time understanding me and gets me working as part of a team rather than rips my head off every two minutes. 3) Who are these managers people want I gaurentee you could put any name on this forum and someone will have a reason why not to appoint them ? the perfect manager does not exsist and I personnaly would rather see someone who knows the real heart of this club at the helm . Just opinions of mine and I am sure not everyone will agree but that the beauty of football inflightmagazine
  • Score: 10

11:49am Wed 22 May 13

Fortyfourer says...

The shambles continues along with completly garbled reporting. But GOOD LUCK Gary if and when confirmation is received!
The shambles continues along with completly garbled reporting. But GOOD LUCK Gary if and when confirmation is received! Fortyfourer
  • Score: -1

11:53am Wed 22 May 13

blazerafe says...

Good to see Burnley fans commenting on here, its obvious they care about the mighty Rovers much more than whats happening down at their poxy little club.

As for Bowyer, good on him. Sure he may not have the experience of a lot of managers but after the amount of time he has been at the club and what he has shown in his few games in charge then i for one will be backing him, even if he fails.
Good to see Burnley fans commenting on here, its obvious they care about the mighty Rovers much more than whats happening down at their poxy little club. As for Bowyer, good on him. Sure he may not have the experience of a lot of managers but after the amount of time he has been at the club and what he has shown in his few games in charge then i for one will be backing him, even if he fails. blazerafe
  • Score: 1

11:58am Wed 22 May 13

lookupblackburn. says...

Tatts wrote:
Great news!

Hopefully we can now bring an end to the madness.

Gary Bowyer's Blue and White Army!
An end to the madness?

This is but the beginning. Shebby Singh retains the power to hire and fire, he decides who plays and who doesn't. Shebby is number 1.

In Venky's we Trust!
[quote][p][bold]Tatts[/bold] wrote: Great news! Hopefully we can now bring an end to the madness. Gary Bowyer's Blue and White Army![/p][/quote]An end to the madness? This is but the beginning. Shebby Singh retains the power to hire and fire, he decides who plays and who doesn't. Shebby is number 1. In Venky's we Trust! lookupblackburn.
  • Score: -3

12:00pm Wed 22 May 13

A Darener says...

Just as a matter of interest could somebody explain why Steve Kean never appears in the list of candidates for vacant managers jobs? After all according to the top managers Ferguson, Moyes etc he was the best thing since sliced bread!
Just as a matter of interest could somebody explain why Steve Kean never appears in the list of candidates for vacant managers jobs? After all according to the top managers Ferguson, Moyes etc he was the best thing since sliced bread! A Darener
  • Score: 12

12:15pm Wed 22 May 13

hasslem hasslem says...

inflightmagazine wrote:
jack01 wrote:
Stop treating us like fools. It's quite clear that Bowyer was appointed manager as far back as his trip to India in April. For some reason they think they are being clever in not officially announcing it yet, even though the only outcome of Bowyers trip to India would have been for Desai to hand him the job. Quite why we have to wait for this deal to be completed before announcing season ticket details I don't understand. I wouldn't have thought it would make any difference to potential season ticket buyers whether the manager is Bowyer or Sherwood. Most other Championship clubs were selling season tickets in March. We are soon to be in June and haven't even announced prices. Goes to show how much they want to sell tickets. They are simply not interested. The same applies to the new kit - one of the few clubs who haven't unveiled it yet. Presumably we will have another sponsor fiasco whereby we don't secure a sponsor, put merchandise on sale without sponsors on and then have to start sticking things on later in the season. A complete and utter joke. It seems the general reasoning behind supporting Bowyers appointment consists of three points: 1) he has a decent record as caretaker 2) he's a nice guy 3) we won't or can't do any better The sensible response to the above would be as follows: 1) many many many caretaker managers have had records similar to or better than Bowyers. It is very rare that they go on to be successful full time managers. Infact, I'm struggling to remember the last time it happened 2) The critical rule in football when appointing a manager is it doesn't matter one jot whether somebody is a nice guy or not. It has absolutely nothing to do with somebody's managerial capabilities or his prospects for success, and shouldn't ever play a role in determining an appointment. That is called letting your heart rule your head. Too many people would like Bowyer to get the job because 'he deserves a chance' or because 'he's a decent bloke', rather than sitting back and thinking about what is best for the club. 3) the suggestion we can't do any better than Bowyer is again, a myth. For some reason the decision makers at the club repeatedly refuse to appoint anyone with a track record in management. That doesn't mean we should accept that or be happy with it. There are dozens of out of work and lower league managers who would jump at the chance to manage what is a big Championship club with the biggest financial outlay outside the top flight and the best facilities.
Not really sure I can agree with you hear Jack.

1) Managers have to start somewhere letting managers take a dip in as caretakers is probably less risky that appointing someone who is just an ex-player who might just make it Malky Mckay started as caretaker at Watford and just got Cardiff Promoted.

2) I do nt think peole are backing Gary because he is a nice bloke, what I saw was that he had an ability to manage the players and seemed to be able to get the best out of them, there are different sytles of management in football just like at work , i personnally prefer to work with the type of manager taht spends a bit of time understanding me and gets me working as part of a team rather than rips my head off every two minutes.

3) Who are these managers people want I gaurentee you could put any name on this forum and someone will have a reason why not to appoint them ? the perfect manager does not exsist and I personnaly would rather see someone who knows the real heart of this club at the helm .

Just opinions of mine and I am sure not everyone will agree but that the beauty of football
inflight - as usual your comments well thought out.

i too am intrigued by who these mystery managers are that are out of work that would really add to the mix at ewood?

gary megson? - don't make me laugh
gary mcallister? - old scrote
colin w.anker? would walk out after 5 minutes with shabby
david o dreary? - really
martin o'neil - would want £millions and would never work with the loons or the clowns
souness - loves his telly, would walk out cos of owners and board
pulis - if he left a stable club like stoke - he is not the guy for rovers.
mclaren - most fans would reject him
mcleish - personally i would be happy with him - but couldn't see him with the owners
dickov - new doni manager?
keane - will fall out with himself given half the chance - what chance venkys and singh
coyle - jerome anderso
keegan - would hate owners
di matteo - wants bigger and better
grant - really?
curbishley - last time he managed the date was in roman numerals
jackett - couldn't hack it at millwall, what chance rovers?
[quote][p][bold]inflightmagazine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jack01[/bold] wrote: Stop treating us like fools. It's quite clear that Bowyer was appointed manager as far back as his trip to India in April. For some reason they think they are being clever in not officially announcing it yet, even though the only outcome of Bowyers trip to India would have been for Desai to hand him the job. Quite why we have to wait for this deal to be completed before announcing season ticket details I don't understand. I wouldn't have thought it would make any difference to potential season ticket buyers whether the manager is Bowyer or Sherwood. Most other Championship clubs were selling season tickets in March. We are soon to be in June and haven't even announced prices. Goes to show how much they want to sell tickets. They are simply not interested. The same applies to the new kit - one of the few clubs who haven't unveiled it yet. Presumably we will have another sponsor fiasco whereby we don't secure a sponsor, put merchandise on sale without sponsors on and then have to start sticking things on later in the season. A complete and utter joke. It seems the general reasoning behind supporting Bowyers appointment consists of three points: 1) he has a decent record as caretaker 2) he's a nice guy 3) we won't or can't do any better The sensible response to the above would be as follows: 1) many many many caretaker managers have had records similar to or better than Bowyers. It is very rare that they go on to be successful full time managers. Infact, I'm struggling to remember the last time it happened 2) The critical rule in football when appointing a manager is it doesn't matter one jot whether somebody is a nice guy or not. It has absolutely nothing to do with somebody's managerial capabilities or his prospects for success, and shouldn't ever play a role in determining an appointment. That is called letting your heart rule your head. Too many people would like Bowyer to get the job because 'he deserves a chance' or because 'he's a decent bloke', rather than sitting back and thinking about what is best for the club. 3) the suggestion we can't do any better than Bowyer is again, a myth. For some reason the decision makers at the club repeatedly refuse to appoint anyone with a track record in management. That doesn't mean we should accept that or be happy with it. There are dozens of out of work and lower league managers who would jump at the chance to manage what is a big Championship club with the biggest financial outlay outside the top flight and the best facilities.[/p][/quote]Not really sure I can agree with you hear Jack. 1) Managers have to start somewhere letting managers take a dip in as caretakers is probably less risky that appointing someone who is just an ex-player who might just make it Malky Mckay started as caretaker at Watford and just got Cardiff Promoted. 2) I do nt think peole are backing Gary because he is a nice bloke, what I saw was that he had an ability to manage the players and seemed to be able to get the best out of them, there are different sytles of management in football just like at work , i personnally prefer to work with the type of manager taht spends a bit of time understanding me and gets me working as part of a team rather than rips my head off every two minutes. 3) Who are these managers people want I gaurentee you could put any name on this forum and someone will have a reason why not to appoint them ? the perfect manager does not exsist and I personnaly would rather see someone who knows the real heart of this club at the helm . Just opinions of mine and I am sure not everyone will agree but that the beauty of football[/p][/quote]inflight - as usual your comments well thought out. i too am intrigued by who these mystery managers are that are out of work that would really add to the mix at ewood? gary megson? - don't make me laugh gary mcallister? - old scrote colin w.anker? would walk out after 5 minutes with shabby david o dreary? - really martin o'neil - would want £millions and would never work with the loons or the clowns souness - loves his telly, would walk out cos of owners and board pulis - if he left a stable club like stoke - he is not the guy for rovers. mclaren - most fans would reject him mcleish - personally i would be happy with him - but couldn't see him with the owners dickov - new doni manager? keane - will fall out with himself given half the chance - what chance venkys and singh coyle - jerome anderso keegan - would hate owners di matteo - wants bigger and better grant - really? curbishley - last time he managed the date was in roman numerals jackett - couldn't hack it at millwall, what chance rovers? hasslem hasslem
  • Score: 3

12:40pm Wed 22 May 13

GameRoverMan says...

Lancs - pensioner wrote:
How the hell have the Venkys made there millions, it's certainly not by being Pro-Active!!!!
I don't think they have! I think their father was the one who created the Venkys empire. His idiot children have displayed a level of incompetence with the Rovers which makes it seem unlikely that they can keep Venky's successful long term.
[quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: How the hell have the Venkys made there millions, it's certainly not by being Pro-Active!!!![/p][/quote]I don't think they have! I think their father was the one who created the Venkys empire. His idiot children have displayed a level of incompetence with the Rovers which makes it seem unlikely that they can keep Venky's successful long term. GameRoverMan
  • Score: 3

12:49pm Wed 22 May 13

BRFC75 says...

hasslem hasslem wrote:
inflightmagazine wrote:
jack01 wrote:
Stop treating us like fools. It's quite clear that Bowyer was appointed manager as far back as his trip to India in April. For some reason they think they are being clever in not officially announcing it yet, even though the only outcome of Bowyers trip to India would have been for Desai to hand him the job. Quite why we have to wait for this deal to be completed before announcing season ticket details I don't understand. I wouldn't have thought it would make any difference to potential season ticket buyers whether the manager is Bowyer or Sherwood. Most other Championship clubs were selling season tickets in March. We are soon to be in June and haven't even announced prices. Goes to show how much they want to sell tickets. They are simply not interested. The same applies to the new kit - one of the few clubs who haven't unveiled it yet. Presumably we will have another sponsor fiasco whereby we don't secure a sponsor, put merchandise on sale without sponsors on and then have to start sticking things on later in the season. A complete and utter joke. It seems the general reasoning behind supporting Bowyers appointment consists of three points: 1) he has a decent record as caretaker 2) he's a nice guy 3) we won't or can't do any better The sensible response to the above would be as follows: 1) many many many caretaker managers have had records similar to or better than Bowyers. It is very rare that they go on to be successful full time managers. Infact, I'm struggling to remember the last time it happened 2) The critical rule in football when appointing a manager is it doesn't matter one jot whether somebody is a nice guy or not. It has absolutely nothing to do with somebody's managerial capabilities or his prospects for success, and shouldn't ever play a role in determining an appointment. That is called letting your heart rule your head. Too many people would like Bowyer to get the job because 'he deserves a chance' or because 'he's a decent bloke', rather than sitting back and thinking about what is best for the club. 3) the suggestion we can't do any better than Bowyer is again, a myth. For some reason the decision makers at the club repeatedly refuse to appoint anyone with a track record in management. That doesn't mean we should accept that or be happy with it. There are dozens of out of work and lower league managers who would jump at the chance to manage what is a big Championship club with the biggest financial outlay outside the top flight and the best facilities.
Not really sure I can agree with you hear Jack.

1) Managers have to start somewhere letting managers take a dip in as caretakers is probably less risky that appointing someone who is just an ex-player who might just make it Malky Mckay started as caretaker at Watford and just got Cardiff Promoted.

2) I do nt think peole are backing Gary because he is a nice bloke, what I saw was that he had an ability to manage the players and seemed to be able to get the best out of them, there are different sytles of management in football just like at work , i personnally prefer to work with the type of manager taht spends a bit of time understanding me and gets me working as part of a team rather than rips my head off every two minutes.

3) Who are these managers people want I gaurentee you could put any name on this forum and someone will have a reason why not to appoint them ? the perfect manager does not exsist and I personnaly would rather see someone who knows the real heart of this club at the helm .

Just opinions of mine and I am sure not everyone will agree but that the beauty of football
inflight - as usual your comments well thought out.

i too am intrigued by who these mystery managers are that are out of work that would really add to the mix at ewood?

gary megson? - don't make me laugh
gary mcallister? - old scrote
colin w.anker? would walk out after 5 minutes with shabby
david o dreary? - really
martin o'neil - would want £millions and would never work with the loons or the clowns
souness - loves his telly, would walk out cos of owners and board
pulis - if he left a stable club like stoke - he is not the guy for rovers.
mclaren - most fans would reject him
mcleish - personally i would be happy with him - but couldn't see him with the owners
dickov - new doni manager?
keane - will fall out with himself given half the chance - what chance venkys and singh
coyle - jerome anderso
keegan - would hate owners
di matteo - wants bigger and better
grant - really?
curbishley - last time he managed the date was in roman numerals
jackett - couldn't hack it at millwall, what chance rovers?
You name 16 top men that have management experience , most of them good guys , you find a negativity in all of these good men , why ?
Probably NONE of them would even take the Rovers job on anyway and your client Bowyer will have the job anyway.
Please have a bit of respect for decent football guys , good luck to G.B. if he can live and die by his own decisions , good luck to the man. if he lives or dies on the decisions others make for him , so be it.
[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inflightmagazine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jack01[/bold] wrote: Stop treating us like fools. It's quite clear that Bowyer was appointed manager as far back as his trip to India in April. For some reason they think they are being clever in not officially announcing it yet, even though the only outcome of Bowyers trip to India would have been for Desai to hand him the job. Quite why we have to wait for this deal to be completed before announcing season ticket details I don't understand. I wouldn't have thought it would make any difference to potential season ticket buyers whether the manager is Bowyer or Sherwood. Most other Championship clubs were selling season tickets in March. We are soon to be in June and haven't even announced prices. Goes to show how much they want to sell tickets. They are simply not interested. The same applies to the new kit - one of the few clubs who haven't unveiled it yet. Presumably we will have another sponsor fiasco whereby we don't secure a sponsor, put merchandise on sale without sponsors on and then have to start sticking things on later in the season. A complete and utter joke. It seems the general reasoning behind supporting Bowyers appointment consists of three points: 1) he has a decent record as caretaker 2) he's a nice guy 3) we won't or can't do any better The sensible response to the above would be as follows: 1) many many many caretaker managers have had records similar to or better than Bowyers. It is very rare that they go on to be successful full time managers. Infact, I'm struggling to remember the last time it happened 2) The critical rule in football when appointing a manager is it doesn't matter one jot whether somebody is a nice guy or not. It has absolutely nothing to do with somebody's managerial capabilities or his prospects for success, and shouldn't ever play a role in determining an appointment. That is called letting your heart rule your head. Too many people would like Bowyer to get the job because 'he deserves a chance' or because 'he's a decent bloke', rather than sitting back and thinking about what is best for the club. 3) the suggestion we can't do any better than Bowyer is again, a myth. For some reason the decision makers at the club repeatedly refuse to appoint anyone with a track record in management. That doesn't mean we should accept that or be happy with it. There are dozens of out of work and lower league managers who would jump at the chance to manage what is a big Championship club with the biggest financial outlay outside the top flight and the best facilities.[/p][/quote]Not really sure I can agree with you hear Jack. 1) Managers have to start somewhere letting managers take a dip in as caretakers is probably less risky that appointing someone who is just an ex-player who might just make it Malky Mckay started as caretaker at Watford and just got Cardiff Promoted. 2) I do nt think peole are backing Gary because he is a nice bloke, what I saw was that he had an ability to manage the players and seemed to be able to get the best out of them, there are different sytles of management in football just like at work , i personnally prefer to work with the type of manager taht spends a bit of time understanding me and gets me working as part of a team rather than rips my head off every two minutes. 3) Who are these managers people want I gaurentee you could put any name on this forum and someone will have a reason why not to appoint them ? the perfect manager does not exsist and I personnaly would rather see someone who knows the real heart of this club at the helm . Just opinions of mine and I am sure not everyone will agree but that the beauty of football[/p][/quote]inflight - as usual your comments well thought out. i too am intrigued by who these mystery managers are that are out of work that would really add to the mix at ewood? gary megson? - don't make me laugh gary mcallister? - old scrote colin w.anker? would walk out after 5 minutes with shabby david o dreary? - really martin o'neil - would want £millions and would never work with the loons or the clowns souness - loves his telly, would walk out cos of owners and board pulis - if he left a stable club like stoke - he is not the guy for rovers. mclaren - most fans would reject him mcleish - personally i would be happy with him - but couldn't see him with the owners dickov - new doni manager? keane - will fall out with himself given half the chance - what chance venkys and singh coyle - jerome anderso keegan - would hate owners di matteo - wants bigger and better grant - really? curbishley - last time he managed the date was in roman numerals jackett - couldn't hack it at millwall, what chance rovers?[/p][/quote]You name 16 top men that have management experience , most of them good guys , you find a negativity in all of these good men , why ? Probably NONE of them would even take the Rovers job on anyway and your client Bowyer will have the job anyway. Please have a bit of respect for decent football guys , good luck to G.B. if he can live and die by his own decisions , good luck to the man. if he lives or dies on the decisions others make for him , so be it. BRFC75
  • Score: 3

12:53pm Wed 22 May 13

GameRoverMan says...

A Darener wrote:
Just as a matter of interest could somebody explain why Steve Kean never appears in the list of candidates for vacant managers jobs? After all according to the top managers Ferguson, Moyes etc he was the best thing since sliced bread!
Yeah, apparently the Chelski fans are getting a bit restless at the prospect of having Steve Kean as Mourinho's number 2 as rumoured in several papers. When Abramovich gets fed up of Mourinho for the second time as no doubt he will, Chelski might be left with Kean as manager - not a happy prospect for Chelski fans!
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Just as a matter of interest could somebody explain why Steve Kean never appears in the list of candidates for vacant managers jobs? After all according to the top managers Ferguson, Moyes etc he was the best thing since sliced bread![/p][/quote]Yeah, apparently the Chelski fans are getting a bit restless at the prospect of having Steve Kean as Mourinho's number 2 as rumoured in several papers. When Abramovich gets fed up of Mourinho for the second time as no doubt he will, Chelski might be left with Kean as manager - not a happy prospect for Chelski fans! GameRoverMan
  • Score: 2

12:56pm Wed 22 May 13

FCBurnley says...

Welcome Mr Bowyer. You are obviously perfect for the role of Manager of the mighty Blackburn Rovers. Indeed your appointment could be viewed as a touch of genius by The Venkys. They have managed to appoint an inexperienced nobody on a minimal salary without upsetting the natives. Genius Mrs D , genius. Hers looking up at ya !
Welcome Mr Bowyer. You are obviously perfect for the role of Manager of the mighty Blackburn Rovers. Indeed your appointment could be viewed as a touch of genius by The Venkys. They have managed to appoint an inexperienced nobody on a minimal salary without upsetting the natives. Genius Mrs D , genius. Hers looking up at ya ! FCBurnley
  • Score: -1

1:00pm Wed 22 May 13

35yearSurrenderMonkeys says...

BRFC75 wrote:
hasslem hasslem wrote:
inflightmagazine wrote:
jack01 wrote:
Stop treating us like fools. It's quite clear that Bowyer was appointed manager as far back as his trip to India in April. For some reason they think they are being clever in not officially announcing it yet, even though the only outcome of Bowyers trip to India would have been for Desai to hand him the job. Quite why we have to wait for this deal to be completed before announcing season ticket details I don't understand. I wouldn't have thought it would make any difference to potential season ticket buyers whether the manager is Bowyer or Sherwood. Most other Championship clubs were selling season tickets in March. We are soon to be in June and haven't even announced prices. Goes to show how much they want to sell tickets. They are simply not interested. The same applies to the new kit - one of the few clubs who haven't unveiled it yet. Presumably we will have another sponsor fiasco whereby we don't secure a sponsor, put merchandise on sale without sponsors on and then have to start sticking things on later in the season. A complete and utter joke. It seems the general reasoning behind supporting Bowyers appointment consists of three points: 1) he has a decent record as caretaker 2) he's a nice guy 3) we won't or can't do any better The sensible response to the above would be as follows: 1) many many many caretaker managers have had records similar to or better than Bowyers. It is very rare that they go on to be successful full time managers. Infact, I'm struggling to remember the last time it happened 2) The critical rule in football when appointing a manager is it doesn't matter one jot whether somebody is a nice guy or not. It has absolutely nothing to do with somebody's managerial capabilities or his prospects for success, and shouldn't ever play a role in determining an appointment. That is called letting your heart rule your head. Too many people would like Bowyer to get the job because 'he deserves a chance' or because 'he's a decent bloke', rather than sitting back and thinking about what is best for the club. 3) the suggestion we can't do any better than Bowyer is again, a myth. For some reason the decision makers at the club repeatedly refuse to appoint anyone with a track record in management. That doesn't mean we should accept that or be happy with it. There are dozens of out of work and lower league managers who would jump at the chance to manage what is a big Championship club with the biggest financial outlay outside the top flight and the best facilities.
Not really sure I can agree with you hear Jack.

1) Managers have to start somewhere letting managers take a dip in as caretakers is probably less risky that appointing someone who is just an ex-player who might just make it Malky Mckay started as caretaker at Watford and just got Cardiff Promoted.

2) I do nt think peole are backing Gary because he is a nice bloke, what I saw was that he had an ability to manage the players and seemed to be able to get the best out of them, there are different sytles of management in football just like at work , i personnally prefer to work with the type of manager taht spends a bit of time understanding me and gets me working as part of a team rather than rips my head off every two minutes.

3) Who are these managers people want I gaurentee you could put any name on this forum and someone will have a reason why not to appoint them ? the perfect manager does not exsist and I personnaly would rather see someone who knows the real heart of this club at the helm .

Just opinions of mine and I am sure not everyone will agree but that the beauty of football
inflight - as usual your comments well thought out.

i too am intrigued by who these mystery managers are that are out of work that would really add to the mix at ewood?

gary megson? - don't make me laugh
gary mcallister? - old scrote
colin w.anker? would walk out after 5 minutes with shabby
david o dreary? - really
martin o'neil - would want £millions and would never work with the loons or the clowns
souness - loves his telly, would walk out cos of owners and board
pulis - if he left a stable club like stoke - he is not the guy for rovers.
mclaren - most fans would reject him
mcleish - personally i would be happy with him - but couldn't see him with the owners
dickov - new doni manager?
keane - will fall out with himself given half the chance - what chance venkys and singh
coyle - jerome anderso
keegan - would hate owners
di matteo - wants bigger and better
grant - really?
curbishley - last time he managed the date was in roman numerals
jackett - couldn't hack it at millwall, what chance rovers?
You name 16 top men that have management experience , most of them good guys , you find a negativity in all of these good men , why ?
Probably NONE of them would even take the Rovers job on anyway and your client Bowyer will have the job anyway.
Please have a bit of respect for decent football guys , good luck to G.B. if he can live and die by his own decisions , good luck to the man. if he lives or dies on the decisions others make for him , so be it.
Hello 75er,
You all calm today, gooood. Have a nice day, going to work now.
Team GB is the way to go. I think he'll be awesome, until someone poaches him.
[quote][p][bold]BRFC75[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inflightmagazine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jack01[/bold] wrote: Stop treating us like fools. It's quite clear that Bowyer was appointed manager as far back as his trip to India in April. For some reason they think they are being clever in not officially announcing it yet, even though the only outcome of Bowyers trip to India would have been for Desai to hand him the job. Quite why we have to wait for this deal to be completed before announcing season ticket details I don't understand. I wouldn't have thought it would make any difference to potential season ticket buyers whether the manager is Bowyer or Sherwood. Most other Championship clubs were selling season tickets in March. We are soon to be in June and haven't even announced prices. Goes to show how much they want to sell tickets. They are simply not interested. The same applies to the new kit - one of the few clubs who haven't unveiled it yet. Presumably we will have another sponsor fiasco whereby we don't secure a sponsor, put merchandise on sale without sponsors on and then have to start sticking things on later in the season. A complete and utter joke. It seems the general reasoning behind supporting Bowyers appointment consists of three points: 1) he has a decent record as caretaker 2) he's a nice guy 3) we won't or can't do any better The sensible response to the above would be as follows: 1) many many many caretaker managers have had records similar to or better than Bowyers. It is very rare that they go on to be successful full time managers. Infact, I'm struggling to remember the last time it happened 2) The critical rule in football when appointing a manager is it doesn't matter one jot whether somebody is a nice guy or not. It has absolutely nothing to do with somebody's managerial capabilities or his prospects for success, and shouldn't ever play a role in determining an appointment. That is called letting your heart rule your head. Too many people would like Bowyer to get the job because 'he deserves a chance' or because 'he's a decent bloke', rather than sitting back and thinking about what is best for the club. 3) the suggestion we can't do any better than Bowyer is again, a myth. For some reason the decision makers at the club repeatedly refuse to appoint anyone with a track record in management. That doesn't mean we should accept that or be happy with it. There are dozens of out of work and lower league managers who would jump at the chance to manage what is a big Championship club with the biggest financial outlay outside the top flight and the best facilities.[/p][/quote]Not really sure I can agree with you hear Jack. 1) Managers have to start somewhere letting managers take a dip in as caretakers is probably less risky that appointing someone who is just an ex-player who might just make it Malky Mckay started as caretaker at Watford and just got Cardiff Promoted. 2) I do nt think peole are backing Gary because he is a nice bloke, what I saw was that he had an ability to manage the players and seemed to be able to get the best out of them, there are different sytles of management in football just like at work , i personnally prefer to work with the type of manager taht spends a bit of time understanding me and gets me working as part of a team rather than rips my head off every two minutes. 3) Who are these managers people want I gaurentee you could put any name on this forum and someone will have a reason why not to appoint them ? the perfect manager does not exsist and I personnaly would rather see someone who knows the real heart of this club at the helm . Just opinions of mine and I am sure not everyone will agree but that the beauty of football[/p][/quote]inflight - as usual your comments well thought out. i too am intrigued by who these mystery managers are that are out of work that would really add to the mix at ewood? gary megson? - don't make me laugh gary mcallister? - old scrote colin w.anker? would walk out after 5 minutes with shabby david o dreary? - really martin o'neil - would want £millions and would never work with the loons or the clowns souness - loves his telly, would walk out cos of owners and board pulis - if he left a stable club like stoke - he is not the guy for rovers. mclaren - most fans would reject him mcleish - personally i would be happy with him - but couldn't see him with the owners dickov - new doni manager? keane - will fall out with himself given half the chance - what chance venkys and singh coyle - jerome anderso keegan - would hate owners di matteo - wants bigger and better grant - really? curbishley - last time he managed the date was in roman numerals jackett - couldn't hack it at millwall, what chance rovers?[/p][/quote]You name 16 top men that have management experience , most of them good guys , you find a negativity in all of these good men , why ? Probably NONE of them would even take the Rovers job on anyway and your client Bowyer will have the job anyway. Please have a bit of respect for decent football guys , good luck to G.B. if he can live and die by his own decisions , good luck to the man. if he lives or dies on the decisions others make for him , so be it.[/p][/quote]Hello 75er, You all calm today, gooood. Have a nice day, going to work now. Team GB is the way to go. I think he'll be awesome, until someone poaches him. 35yearSurrenderMonkeys
  • Score: -1

1:02pm Wed 22 May 13

A Darener says...

GameRoverMan wrote:
A Darener wrote:
Just as a matter of interest could somebody explain why Steve Kean never appears in the list of candidates for vacant managers jobs? After all according to the top managers Ferguson, Moyes etc he was the best thing since sliced bread!
Yeah, apparently the Chelski fans are getting a bit restless at the prospect of having Steve Kean as Mourinho's number 2 as rumoured in several papers. When Abramovich gets fed up of Mourinho for the second time as no doubt he will, Chelski might be left with Kean as manager - not a happy prospect for Chelski fans!
Some may argue Kean's all they deserve!
[quote][p][bold]GameRoverMan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Just as a matter of interest could somebody explain why Steve Kean never appears in the list of candidates for vacant managers jobs? After all according to the top managers Ferguson, Moyes etc he was the best thing since sliced bread![/p][/quote]Yeah, apparently the Chelski fans are getting a bit restless at the prospect of having Steve Kean as Mourinho's number 2 as rumoured in several papers. When Abramovich gets fed up of Mourinho for the second time as no doubt he will, Chelski might be left with Kean as manager - not a happy prospect for Chelski fans![/p][/quote]Some may argue Kean's all they deserve! A Darener
  • Score: 0

1:02pm Wed 22 May 13

bluenick says...

A Darener wrote:
Just as a matter of interest could somebody explain why Steve Kean never appears in the list of candidates for vacant managers jobs? After all according to the top managers Ferguson, Moyes etc he was the best thing since sliced bread!
Maybe Moyes has recomended to the Everton board that Kean should replace him! Wouldn't think so, eh Darener!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Just as a matter of interest could somebody explain why Steve Kean never appears in the list of candidates for vacant managers jobs? After all according to the top managers Ferguson, Moyes etc he was the best thing since sliced bread![/p][/quote]Maybe Moyes has recomended to the Everton board that Kean should replace him! Wouldn't think so, eh Darener!!!!!! bluenick
  • Score: 1

1:07pm Wed 22 May 13

Keen O to Get Kean Out says...

A Darener wrote:
GameRoverMan wrote:
A Darener wrote:
Just as a matter of interest could somebody explain why Steve Kean never appears in the list of candidates for vacant managers jobs? After all according to the top managers Ferguson, Moyes etc he was the best thing since sliced bread!
Yeah, apparently the Chelski fans are getting a bit restless at the prospect of having Steve Kean as Mourinho's number 2 as rumoured in several papers. When Abramovich gets fed up of Mourinho for the second time as no doubt he will, Chelski might be left with Kean as manager - not a happy prospect for Chelski fans!
Some may argue Kean's all they deserve!
imagine Keano takin chelsea down ,selling off Lamps and Terry etc, would love it
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GameRoverMan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Just as a matter of interest could somebody explain why Steve Kean never appears in the list of candidates for vacant managers jobs? After all according to the top managers Ferguson, Moyes etc he was the best thing since sliced bread![/p][/quote]Yeah, apparently the Chelski fans are getting a bit restless at the prospect of having Steve Kean as Mourinho's number 2 as rumoured in several papers. When Abramovich gets fed up of Mourinho for the second time as no doubt he will, Chelski might be left with Kean as manager - not a happy prospect for Chelski fans![/p][/quote]Some may argue Kean's all they deserve![/p][/quote]imagine Keano takin chelsea down ,selling off Lamps and Terry etc, would love it Keen O to Get Kean Out
  • Score: 0

1:18pm Wed 22 May 13

Rovers 1495 says...

Another freebie ?

http://www.bbc.co.uk
/sport/0/football/22
622641
Another freebie ? http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/0/football/22 622641 Rovers 1495
  • Score: -1

1:21pm Wed 22 May 13

Nuttall Street says...

Well done Venky's, you insufferable morons. We used to have Sam Allardyce and now we have Gary Bowyer. And to get from BFS to GB you have shuffled through the garbage of Kean, Berg, and Appleton and blown millions of pounds in pay-offs.
If anyone "deserves" it GB does after stepping in twice to save the goons from themselves, but the truth is that no one except Hendry, Coar and Singh deserves to have bosses like the Venky's.
Well done Venky's, you insufferable morons. We used to have Sam Allardyce and now we have Gary Bowyer. And to get from BFS to GB you have shuffled through the garbage of Kean, Berg, and Appleton and blown millions of pounds in pay-offs. If anyone "deserves" it GB does after stepping in twice to save the goons from themselves, but the truth is that no one except Hendry, Coar and Singh deserves to have bosses like the Venky's. Nuttall Street
  • Score: 1

1:26pm Wed 22 May 13

Leonard Venkhater says...

hasslem hasslem wrote:
i hope its true, really do - bu the headline is inconsistent with the first paragraph......has this been signed off, or not?

waiting for the green light is not saying he has been appointed and as we know the loons in pune have dodgy traffic lights.

everybody (well most people) with any sense knows that bowyer's appointment is the best possible solution for a club which is "out of control". apart from money and desperation i can't think why anybody outside the club would touch us with a bargepole at the moment.

i just hope that, for his sake, gary bowyer has a watertight contract a good lawyer and the full backing of the LMA.

if its true about the appointment - we should be pleased for him and rovers.
3 awful phrases that have come to typify life after the flood.

1) awaiting the green light from Pune...,

2) an audience with Madame Desai...

3) said global advisor, Shebby Singh...
[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: i hope its true, really do - bu the headline is inconsistent with the first paragraph......has this been signed off, or not? waiting for the green light is not saying he has been appointed and as we know the loons in pune have dodgy traffic lights. everybody (well most people) with any sense knows that bowyer's appointment is the best possible solution for a club which is "out of control". apart from money and desperation i can't think why anybody outside the club would touch us with a bargepole at the moment. i just hope that, for his sake, gary bowyer has a watertight contract a good lawyer and the full backing of the LMA. if its true about the appointment - we should be pleased for him and rovers.[/p][/quote]3 awful phrases that have come to typify life after the flood. 1) awaiting the green light from Pune..., 2) an audience with Madame Desai... 3) said global advisor, Shebby Singh... Leonard Venkhater
  • Score: 1

1:28pm Wed 22 May 13

hasslem hasslem says...

BRFC75 wrote:
hasslem hasslem wrote:
inflightmagazine wrote:
jack01 wrote:
Stop treating us like fools. It's quite clear that Bowyer was appointed manager as far back as his trip to India in April. For some reason they think they are being clever in not officially announcing it yet, even though the only outcome of Bowyers trip to India would have been for Desai to hand him the job. Quite why we have to wait for this deal to be completed before announcing season ticket details I don't understand. I wouldn't have thought it would make any difference to potential season ticket buyers whether the manager is Bowyer or Sherwood. Most other Championship clubs were selling season tickets in March. We are soon to be in June and haven't even announced prices. Goes to show how much they want to sell tickets. They are simply not interested. The same applies to the new kit - one of the few clubs who haven't unveiled it yet. Presumably we will have another sponsor fiasco whereby we don't secure a sponsor, put merchandise on sale without sponsors on and then have to start sticking things on later in the season. A complete and utter joke. It seems the general reasoning behind supporting Bowyers appointment consists of three points: 1) he has a decent record as caretaker 2) he's a nice guy 3) we won't or can't do any better The sensible response to the above would be as follows: 1) many many many caretaker managers have had records similar to or better than Bowyers. It is very rare that they go on to be successful full time managers. Infact, I'm struggling to remember the last time it happened 2) The critical rule in football when appointing a manager is it doesn't matter one jot whether somebody is a nice guy or not. It has absolutely nothing to do with somebody's managerial capabilities or his prospects for success, and shouldn't ever play a role in determining an appointment. That is called letting your heart rule your head. Too many people would like Bowyer to get the job because 'he deserves a chance' or because 'he's a decent bloke', rather than sitting back and thinking about what is best for the club. 3) the suggestion we can't do any better than Bowyer is again, a myth. For some reason the decision makers at the club repeatedly refuse to appoint anyone with a track record in management. That doesn't mean we should accept that or be happy with it. There are dozens of out of work and lower league managers who would jump at the chance to manage what is a big Championship club with the biggest financial outlay outside the top flight and the best facilities.
Not really sure I can agree with you hear Jack.

1) Managers have to start somewhere letting managers take a dip in as caretakers is probably less risky that appointing someone who is just an ex-player who might just make it Malky Mckay started as caretaker at Watford and just got Cardiff Promoted.

2) I do nt think peole are backing Gary because he is a nice bloke, what I saw was that he had an ability to manage the players and seemed to be able to get the best out of them, there are different sytles of management in football just like at work , i personnally prefer to work with the type of manager taht spends a bit of time understanding me and gets me working as part of a team rather than rips my head off every two minutes.

3) Who are these managers people want I gaurentee you could put any name on this forum and someone will have a reason why not to appoint them ? the perfect manager does not exsist and I personnaly would rather see someone who knows the real heart of this club at the helm .

Just opinions of mine and I am sure not everyone will agree but that the beauty of football
inflight - as usual your comments well thought out.

i too am intrigued by who these mystery managers are that are out of work that would really add to the mix at ewood?

gary megson? - don't make me laugh
gary mcallister? - old scrote
colin w.anker? would walk out after 5 minutes with shabby
david o dreary? - really
martin o'neil - would want £millions and would never work with the loons or the clowns
souness - loves his telly, would walk out cos of owners and board
pulis - if he left a stable club like stoke - he is not the guy for rovers.
mclaren - most fans would reject him
mcleish - personally i would be happy with him - but couldn't see him with the owners
dickov - new doni manager?
keane - will fall out with himself given half the chance - what chance venkys and singh
coyle - jerome anderso
keegan - would hate owners
di matteo - wants bigger and better
grant - really?
curbishley - last time he managed the date was in roman numerals
jackett - couldn't hack it at millwall, what chance rovers?
You name 16 top men that have management experience , most of them good guys , you find a negativity in all of these good men , why ?
Probably NONE of them would even take the Rovers job on anyway and your client Bowyer will have the job anyway.
Please have a bit of respect for decent football guys , good luck to G.B. if he can live and die by his own decisions , good luck to the man. if he lives or dies on the decisions others make for him , so be it.
that's my point - most of them wouldn't touch rovers with a bargepole - ad we would be left with the waifs and strays that are desperate to get back into football at any level - eg megson and grant and do you really see them as a better offering than gary bowyer who:

1) hasn't done so bad, so far
2) knows who from the youth team is good enough
3) still manages to love the club despite the turmoil around it
4) for some inexplicable reason appears prepared to work with the venkys.

personally i would knit a red carpet if hughes was to come back with mark bowen - but what has done for him most recently is his steadfast insistence of working with kia joorabchim - and personally i would rather have jerome back at rovers than kia.
[quote][p][bold]BRFC75[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inflightmagazine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jack01[/bold] wrote: Stop treating us like fools. It's quite clear that Bowyer was appointed manager as far back as his trip to India in April. For some reason they think they are being clever in not officially announcing it yet, even though the only outcome of Bowyers trip to India would have been for Desai to hand him the job. Quite why we have to wait for this deal to be completed before announcing season ticket details I don't understand. I wouldn't have thought it would make any difference to potential season ticket buyers whether the manager is Bowyer or Sherwood. Most other Championship clubs were selling season tickets in March. We are soon to be in June and haven't even announced prices. Goes to show how much they want to sell tickets. They are simply not interested. The same applies to the new kit - one of the few clubs who haven't unveiled it yet. Presumably we will have another sponsor fiasco whereby we don't secure a sponsor, put merchandise on sale without sponsors on and then have to start sticking things on later in the season. A complete and utter joke. It seems the general reasoning behind supporting Bowyers appointment consists of three points: 1) he has a decent record as caretaker 2) he's a nice guy 3) we won't or can't do any better The sensible response to the above would be as follows: 1) many many many caretaker managers have had records similar to or better than Bowyers. It is very rare that they go on to be successful full time managers. Infact, I'm struggling to remember the last time it happened 2) The critical rule in football when appointing a manager is it doesn't matter one jot whether somebody is a nice guy or not. It has absolutely nothing to do with somebody's managerial capabilities or his prospects for success, and shouldn't ever play a role in determining an appointment. That is called letting your heart rule your head. Too many people would like Bowyer to get the job because 'he deserves a chance' or because 'he's a decent bloke', rather than sitting back and thinking about what is best for the club. 3) the suggestion we can't do any better than Bowyer is again, a myth. For some reason the decision makers at the club repeatedly refuse to appoint anyone with a track record in management. That doesn't mean we should accept that or be happy with it. There are dozens of out of work and lower league managers who would jump at the chance to manage what is a big Championship club with the biggest financial outlay outside the top flight and the best facilities.[/p][/quote]Not really sure I can agree with you hear Jack. 1) Managers have to start somewhere letting managers take a dip in as caretakers is probably less risky that appointing someone who is just an ex-player who might just make it Malky Mckay started as caretaker at Watford and just got Cardiff Promoted. 2) I do nt think peole are backing Gary because he is a nice bloke, what I saw was that he had an ability to manage the players and seemed to be able to get the best out of them, there are different sytles of management in football just like at work , i personnally prefer to work with the type of manager taht spends a bit of time understanding me and gets me working as part of a team rather than rips my head off every two minutes. 3) Who are these managers people want I gaurentee you could put any name on this forum and someone will have a reason why not to appoint them ? the perfect manager does not exsist and I personnaly would rather see someone who knows the real heart of this club at the helm . Just opinions of mine and I am sure not everyone will agree but that the beauty of football[/p][/quote]inflight - as usual your comments well thought out. i too am intrigued by who these mystery managers are that are out of work that would really add to the mix at ewood? gary megson? - don't make me laugh gary mcallister? - old scrote colin w.anker? would walk out after 5 minutes with shabby david o dreary? - really martin o'neil - would want £millions and would never work with the loons or the clowns souness - loves his telly, would walk out cos of owners and board pulis - if he left a stable club like stoke - he is not the guy for rovers. mclaren - most fans would reject him mcleish - personally i would be happy with him - but couldn't see him with the owners dickov - new doni manager? keane - will fall out with himself given half the chance - what chance venkys and singh coyle - jerome anderso keegan - would hate owners di matteo - wants bigger and better grant - really? curbishley - last time he managed the date was in roman numerals jackett - couldn't hack it at millwall, what chance rovers?[/p][/quote]You name 16 top men that have management experience , most of them good guys , you find a negativity in all of these good men , why ? Probably NONE of them would even take the Rovers job on anyway and your client Bowyer will have the job anyway. Please have a bit of respect for decent football guys , good luck to G.B. if he can live and die by his own decisions , good luck to the man. if he lives or dies on the decisions others make for him , so be it.[/p][/quote]that's my point - most of them wouldn't touch rovers with a bargepole - ad we would be left with the waifs and strays that are desperate to get back into football at any level - eg megson and grant and do you really see them as a better offering than gary bowyer who: 1) hasn't done so bad, so far 2) knows who from the youth team is good enough 3) still manages to love the club despite the turmoil around it 4) for some inexplicable reason appears prepared to work with the venkys. personally i would knit a red carpet if hughes was to come back with mark bowen - but what has done for him most recently is his steadfast insistence of working with kia joorabchim - and personally i would rather have jerome back at rovers than kia. hasslem hasslem
  • Score: 1

1:54pm Wed 22 May 13

kenbro says...

The best caretaker we ever had was Tony Parkes, and he did it more than once, but even Tony admitted that the club needed an experienced manager to effectively run things.
We all hope that Gary will succeed, but let us not be surprised if his lack of management experience starts to become evident next season.
Having said that, it is hard to believe that Gary can be any worse than our last 3 managers, and because of our disfunctional owners record it may have become impossible to recruit a proficient, experienced manager.
The best caretaker we ever had was Tony Parkes, and he did it more than once, but even Tony admitted that the club needed an experienced manager to effectively run things. We all hope that Gary will succeed, but let us not be surprised if his lack of management experience starts to become evident next season. Having said that, it is hard to believe that Gary can be any worse than our last 3 managers, and because of our disfunctional owners record it may have become impossible to recruit a proficient, experienced manager. kenbro
  • Score: 3

2:23pm Wed 22 May 13

pbirty says...

so we may or may not have a manager who is capable of avoiding the drop into league one. what about promotion,what about our youth coachs, what happens if he is fired?we will have no coachs left to develop our youngsters. stay away from it GB. its a poisoned chalice, if SS sacks you and your staff we are doomed even more than normal. we need an experienced manager.
so we may or may not have a manager who is capable of avoiding the drop into league one. what about promotion,what about our youth coachs, what happens if he is fired?we will have no coachs left to develop our youngsters. stay away from it GB. its a poisoned chalice, if SS sacks you and your staff we are doomed even more than normal. we need an experienced manager. pbirty
  • Score: 4

2:49pm Wed 22 May 13

Riverside 7 says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
If Shaw, Agnew and Singh have all backed Bowyer for the job, who are these 'people' who have been "Recommending other possible candidates?" as in the case of Appleton. It appears Venkys went elsewhere for their 'advice' on that occasion, their fault again.
Get behind GB and we could be in for a better season next year but only if the owners get behind him also.
A good point.
Who has been recommending / advising Venkys this time?

Good luck GB.
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: If Shaw, Agnew and Singh have all backed Bowyer for the job, who are these 'people' who have been "Recommending other possible candidates?" as in the case of Appleton. It appears Venkys went elsewhere for their 'advice' on that occasion, their fault again. Get behind GB and we could be in for a better season next year but only if the owners get behind him also.[/p][/quote]A good point. Who has been recommending / advising Venkys this time? Good luck GB. Riverside 7
  • Score: 1

3:21pm Wed 22 May 13

alphajono says...

Is the above article correct as there is no other paper or website reporting that he is now manager and it is not on the official site either.

??????
Is the above article correct as there is no other paper or website reporting that he is now manager and it is not on the official site either. ?????? alphajono
  • Score: -1

3:32pm Wed 22 May 13

hasslem hasslem says...

French Rover wrote:
Good Luck GB....you fully deserve a crack at the job - nice to see someone appointed who has the support of all (or most) of all the Rovers fans...
agree with this sentiment - IF IT HAPPENS

but as for the previous thread and linking it to this one.

FR - the headline on this article says appointed, the first para says "ready to unveil" the second para reads "waiting for the green light from owners"

now far be it from me but the LT posted this at 9.48 this morning and presumably it was on the back pages before this.........BUT it is now gone 1500hrs and there is:
1) nothing on rovers official website
2) nowt on bbc website
3) nothing on the sky sports news website
4) nothing on talkspurs website
5) nothing on newsnow
.......so maybe i didn't pontificate too soon.

i really really hope it gets confirmed later today - but isn't this a perfect example how common sense does not prevail.

we all know that on relegation steve kean was sacked - everybody knew - and then cruella intervened on some spurious logic that because fester has a nice missus that he deserved a second (second - that's a joke) chance - - that is the sort of common sense we are dealing with here.

with rovers i would under its current stewardship i would not believe anything until it was signed, sealed and delivered and stood right in front of me with the documentary proof.....call me a cynic - but these bunch of idiots would not recognise common sense if they fell over it.
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: Good Luck GB....you fully deserve a crack at the job - nice to see someone appointed who has the support of all (or most) of all the Rovers fans...[/p][/quote]agree with this sentiment - IF IT HAPPENS but as for the previous thread and linking it to this one. FR - the headline on this article says appointed, the first para says "ready to unveil" the second para reads "waiting for the green light from owners" now far be it from me but the LT posted this at 9.48 this morning and presumably it was on the back pages before this.........BUT it is now gone 1500hrs and there is: 1) nothing on rovers official website 2) nowt on bbc website 3) nothing on the sky sports news website 4) nothing on talkspurs website 5) nothing on newsnow .......so maybe i didn't pontificate too soon. i really really hope it gets confirmed later today - but isn't this a perfect example how common sense does not prevail. we all know that on relegation steve kean was sacked - everybody knew - and then cruella intervened on some spurious logic that because fester has a nice missus that he deserved a second (second - that's a joke) chance - - that is the sort of common sense we are dealing with here. with rovers i would under its current stewardship i would not believe anything until it was signed, sealed and delivered and stood right in front of me with the documentary proof.....call me a cynic - but these bunch of idiots would not recognise common sense if they fell over it. hasslem hasslem
  • Score: 1

3:47pm Wed 22 May 13

dangerous dave says...

French Rover wrote:
Good Luck GB....you fully deserve a crack at the job - nice to see someone appointed who has the support of all (or most) of all the Rovers fans...
afraid you are well wide of the mark with your comments - GB just ' Kean 2' another cheap option - you'd think they would learn by their past experiences but not these clowns!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: Good Luck GB....you fully deserve a crack at the job - nice to see someone appointed who has the support of all (or most) of all the Rovers fans...[/p][/quote]afraid you are well wide of the mark with your comments - GB just ' Kean 2' another cheap option - you'd think they would learn by their past experiences but not these clowns!!!!!!!!!!!!! OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM dangerous dave
  • Score: 1

4:41pm Wed 22 May 13

French Rover says...

hasslem hasslem wrote:
French Rover wrote:
Good Luck GB....you fully deserve a crack at the job - nice to see someone appointed who has the support of all (or most) of all the Rovers fans...
agree with this sentiment - IF IT HAPPENS

but as for the previous thread and linking it to this one.

FR - the headline on this article says appointed, the first para says "ready to unveil" the second para reads "waiting for the green light from owners"

now far be it from me but the LT posted this at 9.48 this morning and presumably it was on the back pages before this.........BUT it is now gone 1500hrs and there is:
1) nothing on rovers official website
2) nowt on bbc website
3) nothing on the sky sports news website
4) nothing on talkspurs website
5) nothing on newsnow
.......so maybe i didn't pontificate too soon.

i really really hope it gets confirmed later today - but isn't this a perfect example how common sense does not prevail.

we all know that on relegation steve kean was sacked - everybody knew - and then cruella intervened on some spurious logic that because fester has a nice missus that he deserved a second (second - that's a joke) chance - - that is the sort of common sense we are dealing with here.

with rovers i would under its current stewardship i would not believe anything until it was signed, sealed and delivered and stood right in front of me with the documentary proof.....call me a cynic - but these bunch of idiots would not recognise common sense if they fell over it.
oh you doubting Thomas (Hass) - you mean you don`t think this is a done deal yet? Shame on you, surely you know whatever the owners say always happens! :-)

But I do know what u mean.....BTW I did say it (common sense) had been in short supply at the club recently, but surely and eventually they will get something right, the law of averages must assure us all of that. Might not get a lot right but even a couple of things are better than the zero they did so far. And the (eventual - but definite) appointment of GB as manager of our grand club is probably the first example of common sense they have shown.

Its a darn hard slog keeping the faith at the minute though.....but your football club (unlike your spouse) is something you cant change. Its not just for Christmas - its for life! And without any parole...or any time off for good behaviour or long service!.
[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: Good Luck GB....you fully deserve a crack at the job - nice to see someone appointed who has the support of all (or most) of all the Rovers fans...[/p][/quote]agree with this sentiment - IF IT HAPPENS but as for the previous thread and linking it to this one. FR - the headline on this article says appointed, the first para says "ready to unveil" the second para reads "waiting for the green light from owners" now far be it from me but the LT posted this at 9.48 this morning and presumably it was on the back pages before this.........BUT it is now gone 1500hrs and there is: 1) nothing on rovers official website 2) nowt on bbc website 3) nothing on the sky sports news website 4) nothing on talkspurs website 5) nothing on newsnow .......so maybe i didn't pontificate too soon. i really really hope it gets confirmed later today - but isn't this a perfect example how common sense does not prevail. we all know that on relegation steve kean was sacked - everybody knew - and then cruella intervened on some spurious logic that because fester has a nice missus that he deserved a second (second - that's a joke) chance - - that is the sort of common sense we are dealing with here. with rovers i would under its current stewardship i would not believe anything until it was signed, sealed and delivered and stood right in front of me with the documentary proof.....call me a cynic - but these bunch of idiots would not recognise common sense if they fell over it.[/p][/quote]oh you doubting Thomas (Hass) - you mean you don`t think this is a done deal yet? Shame on you, surely you know whatever the owners say always happens! :-) But I do know what u mean.....BTW I did say it (common sense) had been in short supply at the club recently, but surely and eventually they will get something right, the law of averages must assure us all of that. Might not get a lot right but even a couple of things are better than the zero they did so far. And the (eventual - but definite) appointment of GB as manager of our grand club is probably the first example of common sense they have shown. Its a darn hard slog keeping the faith at the minute though.....but your football club (unlike your spouse) is something you cant change. Its not just for Christmas - its for life! And without any parole...or any time off for good behaviour or long service!. French Rover
  • Score: 0

4:45pm Wed 22 May 13

French Rover says...

dangerous dave wrote:
French Rover wrote:
Good Luck GB....you fully deserve a crack at the job - nice to see someone appointed who has the support of all (or most) of all the Rovers fans...
afraid you are well wide of the mark with your comments - GB just ' Kean 2' another cheap option - you'd think they would learn by their past experiences but not these clowns!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM
If you think that GB is just `Kean 2` - then it is you Mr. DD who is so wide of the mark that you probably (hopefully) just left the earths orbit heading straight up to Uranus!
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: Good Luck GB....you fully deserve a crack at the job - nice to see someone appointed who has the support of all (or most) of all the Rovers fans...[/p][/quote]afraid you are well wide of the mark with your comments - GB just ' Kean 2' another cheap option - you'd think they would learn by their past experiences but not these clowns!!!!!!!!!!!!! OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM[/p][/quote]If you think that GB is just `Kean 2` - then it is you Mr. DD who is so wide of the mark that you probably (hopefully) just left the earths orbit heading straight up to Uranus! French Rover
  • Score: 5

4:46pm Wed 22 May 13

willhelmrover98 says...

It isn't on the Rovers Website?!
It isn't on the Rovers Website?! willhelmrover98
  • Score: -1

4:53pm Wed 22 May 13

hasslem hasslem says...

French Rover wrote:
hasslem hasslem wrote:
French Rover wrote:
Good Luck GB....you fully deserve a crack at the job - nice to see someone appointed who has the support of all (or most) of all the Rovers fans...
agree with this sentiment - IF IT HAPPENS

but as for the previous thread and linking it to this one.

FR - the headline on this article says appointed, the first para says "ready to unveil" the second para reads "waiting for the green light from owners"

now far be it from me but the LT posted this at 9.48 this morning and presumably it was on the back pages before this.........BUT it is now gone 1500hrs and there is:
1) nothing on rovers official website
2) nowt on bbc website
3) nothing on the sky sports news website
4) nothing on talkspurs website
5) nothing on newsnow
.......so maybe i didn't pontificate too soon.

i really really hope it gets confirmed later today - but isn't this a perfect example how common sense does not prevail.

we all know that on relegation steve kean was sacked - everybody knew - and then cruella intervened on some spurious logic that because fester has a nice missus that he deserved a second (second - that's a joke) chance - - that is the sort of common sense we are dealing with here.

with rovers i would under its current stewardship i would not believe anything until it was signed, sealed and delivered and stood right in front of me with the documentary proof.....call me a cynic - but these bunch of idiots would not recognise common sense if they fell over it.
oh you doubting Thomas (Hass) - you mean you don`t think this is a done deal yet? Shame on you, surely you know whatever the owners say always happens! :-)

But I do know what u mean.....BTW I did say it (common sense) had been in short supply at the club recently, but surely and eventually they will get something right, the law of averages must assure us all of that. Might not get a lot right but even a couple of things are better than the zero they did so far. And the (eventual - but definite) appointment of GB as manager of our grand club is probably the first example of common sense they have shown.

Its a darn hard slog keeping the faith at the minute though.....but your football club (unlike your spouse) is something you cant change. Its not just for Christmas - its for life! And without any parole...or any time off for good behaviour or long service!.
i hope that the current madame rover de francais does not read these posts.

and you are quite wrong about your football clubs - i change all the time.....whoever is playing manchester united, burnley (or for a convoluted reason crystal palace) - i want the oppo to win

on the law of averages you are correct they must get summat right once in a while - although it is taking a helluva long time to do so. however, i will say that of the limited decisions they got vaguely right (IMHO) were the appointment of eric black as coach and paul hunt as "acting" md.....and yet they got rid of both of them - you could argue that sacking kean was the right decision - but we all know he should never have been appointed in the first place......so that don't count.

if they do get summat correct - it proves the chimpanzees given enough time and computers keyboards will eventually come up with the complete works of shakespeare
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: Good Luck GB....you fully deserve a crack at the job - nice to see someone appointed who has the support of all (or most) of all the Rovers fans...[/p][/quote]agree with this sentiment - IF IT HAPPENS but as for the previous thread and linking it to this one. FR - the headline on this article says appointed, the first para says "ready to unveil" the second para reads "waiting for the green light from owners" now far be it from me but the LT posted this at 9.48 this morning and presumably it was on the back pages before this.........BUT it is now gone 1500hrs and there is: 1) nothing on rovers official website 2) nowt on bbc website 3) nothing on the sky sports news website 4) nothing on talkspurs website 5) nothing on newsnow .......so maybe i didn't pontificate too soon. i really really hope it gets confirmed later today - but isn't this a perfect example how common sense does not prevail. we all know that on relegation steve kean was sacked - everybody knew - and then cruella intervened on some spurious logic that because fester has a nice missus that he deserved a second (second - that's a joke) chance - - that is the sort of common sense we are dealing with here. with rovers i would under its current stewardship i would not believe anything until it was signed, sealed and delivered and stood right in front of me with the documentary proof.....call me a cynic - but these bunch of idiots would not recognise common sense if they fell over it.[/p][/quote]oh you doubting Thomas (Hass) - you mean you don`t think this is a done deal yet? Shame on you, surely you know whatever the owners say always happens! :-) But I do know what u mean.....BTW I did say it (common sense) had been in short supply at the club recently, but surely and eventually they will get something right, the law of averages must assure us all of that. Might not get a lot right but even a couple of things are better than the zero they did so far. And the (eventual - but definite) appointment of GB as manager of our grand club is probably the first example of common sense they have shown. Its a darn hard slog keeping the faith at the minute though.....but your football club (unlike your spouse) is something you cant change. Its not just for Christmas - its for life! And without any parole...or any time off for good behaviour or long service!.[/p][/quote]i hope that the current madame rover de francais does not read these posts. and you are quite wrong about your football clubs - i change all the time.....whoever is playing manchester united, burnley (or for a convoluted reason crystal palace) - i want the oppo to win on the law of averages you are correct they must get summat right once in a while - although it is taking a helluva long time to do so. however, i will say that of the limited decisions they got vaguely right (IMHO) were the appointment of eric black as coach and paul hunt as "acting" md.....and yet they got rid of both of them - you could argue that sacking kean was the right decision - but we all know he should never have been appointed in the first place......so that don't count. if they do get summat correct - it proves the chimpanzees given enough time and computers keyboards will eventually come up with the complete works of shakespeare hasslem hasslem
  • Score: 0

4:54pm Wed 22 May 13

Bazzer says...

Are they stalling so as to make a swoop for Mr. Pulis?
Are they stalling so as to make a swoop for Mr. Pulis? Bazzer
  • Score: -1

4:55pm Wed 22 May 13

A Darener says...

The only thing they can get right now is to sell up.
The only thing they can get right now is to sell up. A Darener
  • Score: 0

4:56pm Wed 22 May 13

gleechy says...

Gb is an interim manager and until people were worn down by inactivity at BRFC most fans were calling for an experienced manager as the only way forward. What has changed?
Have you all been brainwashed into accepting another as recommended by Shebby?

If GB takes the job, not only is he not acting in the best interest of BRFC, but we have lost what has been the best back up since Tony Parkes.

Don't slate the owners for being naive when he is found wanting,the majority of well groomed fans on here are now supporting the appointment of GB, what's got into you?
If GB takes the job you can't turn round ten games into the season and say what a stupid thing to do, employ another rookie.

This is a very big risk move by the incompetent owners who have previously thrown good money into bad mistakes that instead would of secured a decent manager for the good of the club.

They need a very good manager that can compete, to get us out of this with GB churning out good trainees, nothing short of that will do.

How people who say they have been following football for X amount of years can agree with this cop out is amazing and quite frankly will look good to the rest of the footballing world looking in that you can't make your minds up.
Gb is an interim manager and until people were worn down by inactivity at BRFC most fans were calling for an experienced manager as the only way forward. What has changed? Have you all been brainwashed into accepting another as recommended by Shebby? If GB takes the job, not only is he not acting in the best interest of BRFC, but we have lost what has been the best back up since Tony Parkes. Don't slate the owners for being naive when he is found wanting,the majority of well groomed fans on here are now supporting the appointment of GB, what's got into you? If GB takes the job you can't turn round ten games into the season and say what a stupid thing to do, employ another rookie. This is a very big risk move by the incompetent owners who have previously thrown good money into bad mistakes that instead would of secured a decent manager for the good of the club. They need a very good manager that can compete, to get us out of this with GB churning out good trainees, nothing short of that will do. How people who say they have been following football for X amount of years can agree with this cop out is amazing and quite frankly will look good to the rest of the footballing world looking in that you can't make your minds up. gleechy
  • Score: 1

5:06pm Wed 22 May 13

earwego says...

dangerous dave wrote:
French Rover wrote:
Good Luck GB....you fully deserve a crack at the job - nice to see someone appointed who has the support of all (or most) of all the Rovers fans...
afraid you are well wide of the mark with your comments - GB just ' Kean 2' another cheap option - you'd think they would learn by their past experiences but not these clowns!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM
Another constructive comment from the prophet of doom
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: Good Luck GB....you fully deserve a crack at the job - nice to see someone appointed who has the support of all (or most) of all the Rovers fans...[/p][/quote]afraid you are well wide of the mark with your comments - GB just ' Kean 2' another cheap option - you'd think they would learn by their past experiences but not these clowns!!!!!!!!!!!!! OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM[/p][/quote]Another constructive comment from the prophet of doom earwego
  • Score: 3

5:06pm Wed 22 May 13

hasslem hasslem says...

gleechy wrote:
Gb is an interim manager and until people were worn down by inactivity at BRFC most fans were calling for an experienced manager as the only way forward. What has changed?
Have you all been brainwashed into accepting another as recommended by Shebby?

If GB takes the job, not only is he not acting in the best interest of BRFC, but we have lost what has been the best back up since Tony Parkes.

Don't slate the owners for being naive when he is found wanting,the majority of well groomed fans on here are now supporting the appointment of GB, what's got into you?
If GB takes the job you can't turn round ten games into the season and say what a stupid thing to do, employ another rookie.

This is a very big risk move by the incompetent owners who have previously thrown good money into bad mistakes that instead would of secured a decent manager for the good of the club.

They need a very good manager that can compete, to get us out of this with GB churning out good trainees, nothing short of that will do.

How people who say they have been following football for X amount of years can agree with this cop out is amazing and quite frankly will look good to the rest of the footballing world looking in that you can't make your minds up.
there is a flaw in your posting and that assumes that gary bowyer is happy to sit in the background working for the clowns in town and the loons in pune.

if i were gary bowyer - i would be saying to them "its the manager's job on decent wedge, or i am off"

given his success at rovers in bringing young 'uns through for a number of years - i am absolutely certain other clubs (and premiership ones at that) would see the value of recruiting GB to their club. his stock has risen and continues to rise and alternative clubs offer more stability than at ewood/brockhall where there has even been rumours of disbanding the academy.
[quote][p][bold]gleechy[/bold] wrote: Gb is an interim manager and until people were worn down by inactivity at BRFC most fans were calling for an experienced manager as the only way forward. What has changed? Have you all been brainwashed into accepting another as recommended by Shebby? If GB takes the job, not only is he not acting in the best interest of BRFC, but we have lost what has been the best back up since Tony Parkes. Don't slate the owners for being naive when he is found wanting,the majority of well groomed fans on here are now supporting the appointment of GB, what's got into you? If GB takes the job you can't turn round ten games into the season and say what a stupid thing to do, employ another rookie. This is a very big risk move by the incompetent owners who have previously thrown good money into bad mistakes that instead would of secured a decent manager for the good of the club. They need a very good manager that can compete, to get us out of this with GB churning out good trainees, nothing short of that will do. How people who say they have been following football for X amount of years can agree with this cop out is amazing and quite frankly will look good to the rest of the footballing world looking in that you can't make your minds up.[/p][/quote]there is a flaw in your posting and that assumes that gary bowyer is happy to sit in the background working for the clowns in town and the loons in pune. if i were gary bowyer - i would be saying to them "its the manager's job on decent wedge, or i am off" given his success at rovers in bringing young 'uns through for a number of years - i am absolutely certain other clubs (and premiership ones at that) would see the value of recruiting GB to their club. his stock has risen and continues to rise and alternative clubs offer more stability than at ewood/brockhall where there has even been rumours of disbanding the academy. hasslem hasslem
  • Score: 1

5:20pm Wed 22 May 13

gleechy says...

hasslem hasslem wrote:
gleechy wrote:
Gb is an interim manager and until people were worn down by inactivity at BRFC most fans were calling for an experienced manager as the only way forward. What has changed?
Have you all been brainwashed into accepting another as recommended by Shebby?

If GB takes the job, not only is he not acting in the best interest of BRFC, but we have lost what has been the best back up since Tony Parkes.

Don't slate the owners for being naive when he is found wanting,the majority of well groomed fans on here are now supporting the appointment of GB, what's got into you?
If GB takes the job you can't turn round ten games into the season and say what a stupid thing to do, employ another rookie.

This is a very big risk move by the incompetent owners who have previously thrown good money into bad mistakes that instead would of secured a decent manager for the good of the club.

They need a very good manager that can compete, to get us out of this with GB churning out good trainees, nothing short of that will do.

How people who say they have been following football for X amount of years can agree with this cop out is amazing and quite frankly will look good to the rest of the footballing world looking in that you can't make your minds up.
there is a flaw in your posting and that assumes that gary bowyer is happy to sit in the background working for the clowns in town and the loons in pune.

if i were gary bowyer - i would be saying to them "its the manager's job on decent wedge, or i am off"

given his success at rovers in bringing young 'uns through for a number of years - i am absolutely certain other clubs (and premiership ones at that) would see the value of recruiting GB to their club. his stock has risen and continues to rise and alternative clubs offer more stability than at ewood/brockhall where there has even been rumours of disbanding the academy.
If they hadn't tried and tested the rookie root twice it may of been an option, but they have created so many enemies within the football world for persistently making glaring schoolboy errors that they are probably a division above where they deserve.

GB is only an excellent stand in at the moment, and will not do himself any harm by staying with what he knows.

The club has taken such a hit with probably the biggest laughing stock for owners ever seen in the popular leagues.

It is not time to take more chances, it's time to take stock and use their financial power to get to basics and have a proven manager and an efficient back up whilst they can still afford it.

GB may be a possible number 2 if they can find a replacement for his previous position.
[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gleechy[/bold] wrote: Gb is an interim manager and until people were worn down by inactivity at BRFC most fans were calling for an experienced manager as the only way forward. What has changed? Have you all been brainwashed into accepting another as recommended by Shebby? If GB takes the job, not only is he not acting in the best interest of BRFC, but we have lost what has been the best back up since Tony Parkes. Don't slate the owners for being naive when he is found wanting,the majority of well groomed fans on here are now supporting the appointment of GB, what's got into you? If GB takes the job you can't turn round ten games into the season and say what a stupid thing to do, employ another rookie. This is a very big risk move by the incompetent owners who have previously thrown good money into bad mistakes that instead would of secured a decent manager for the good of the club. They need a very good manager that can compete, to get us out of this with GB churning out good trainees, nothing short of that will do. How people who say they have been following football for X amount of years can agree with this cop out is amazing and quite frankly will look good to the rest of the footballing world looking in that you can't make your minds up.[/p][/quote]there is a flaw in your posting and that assumes that gary bowyer is happy to sit in the background working for the clowns in town and the loons in pune. if i were gary bowyer - i would be saying to them "its the manager's job on decent wedge, or i am off" given his success at rovers in bringing young 'uns through for a number of years - i am absolutely certain other clubs (and premiership ones at that) would see the value of recruiting GB to their club. his stock has risen and continues to rise and alternative clubs offer more stability than at ewood/brockhall where there has even been rumours of disbanding the academy.[/p][/quote]If they hadn't tried and tested the rookie root twice it may of been an option, but they have created so many enemies within the football world for persistently making glaring schoolboy errors that they are probably a division above where they deserve. GB is only an excellent stand in at the moment, and will not do himself any harm by staying with what he knows. The club has taken such a hit with probably the biggest laughing stock for owners ever seen in the popular leagues. It is not time to take more chances, it's time to take stock and use their financial power to get to basics and have a proven manager and an efficient back up whilst they can still afford it. GB may be a possible number 2 if they can find a replacement for his previous position. gleechy
  • Score: 1

5:29pm Wed 22 May 13

owd nick says...

9.48 am, Chris Flanagan reports that deal is completed.

17.22 pm still no conformation.

It's getting up to bedtime in Pune......

It ain't going to happen today, again.
9.48 am, Chris Flanagan reports that deal is completed. 17.22 pm still no conformation. It's getting up to bedtime in Pune...... It ain't going to happen today, again. owd nick
  • Score: 0

5:59pm Wed 22 May 13

ghost of sceptic says...

Massive gamble by Rovers again appointing a coach and not a tried and tested manager. Lets hope for Rovers sake the gamble pays off and we can get back up this season otherwise we will be in the football wilderness for years to come Good luck to Gary and his staff
Massive gamble by Rovers again appointing a coach and not a tried and tested manager. Lets hope for Rovers sake the gamble pays off and we can get back up this season otherwise we will be in the football wilderness for years to come Good luck to Gary and his staff ghost of sceptic
  • Score: 2

6:24pm Wed 22 May 13

Only1Garner says...

Keen O to Get Kean Out wrote:
A Darener wrote:
GameRoverMan wrote:
A Darener wrote:
Just as a matter of interest could somebody explain why Steve Kean never appears in the list of candidates for vacant managers jobs? After all according to the top managers Ferguson, Moyes etc he was the best thing since sliced bread!
Yeah, apparently the Chelski fans are getting a bit restless at the prospect of having Steve Kean as Mourinho's number 2 as rumoured in several papers. When Abramovich gets fed up of Mourinho for the second time as no doubt he will, Chelski might be left with Kean as manager - not a happy prospect for Chelski fans!
Some may argue Kean's all they deserve!
imagine Keano takin chelsea down ,selling off Lamps and Terry etc, would love it
Can you imagine it, he would shun Ashley Cole for contractual reasons, or say he is in traction and will never walk again and replace him with Myles Anderson.
[quote][p][bold]Keen O to Get Kean Out[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GameRoverMan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Just as a matter of interest could somebody explain why Steve Kean never appears in the list of candidates for vacant managers jobs? After all according to the top managers Ferguson, Moyes etc he was the best thing since sliced bread![/p][/quote]Yeah, apparently the Chelski fans are getting a bit restless at the prospect of having Steve Kean as Mourinho's number 2 as rumoured in several papers. When Abramovich gets fed up of Mourinho for the second time as no doubt he will, Chelski might be left with Kean as manager - not a happy prospect for Chelski fans![/p][/quote]Some may argue Kean's all they deserve![/p][/quote]imagine Keano takin chelsea down ,selling off Lamps and Terry etc, would love it[/p][/quote]Can you imagine it, he would shun Ashley Cole for contractual reasons, or say he is in traction and will never walk again and replace him with Myles Anderson. Only1Garner
  • Score: 0

6:27pm Wed 22 May 13

Harwoodstblue says...

ghost of sceptic wrote:
Massive gamble by Rovers again appointing a coach and not a tried and tested manager. Lets hope for Rovers sake the gamble pays off and we can get back up this season otherwise we will be in the football wilderness for years to come Good luck to Gary and his staff
IMO they don't want an experienced manager because they can promote coaches and hire inexperienced managers on the cheap. They have demonstrated before that they are cheapskates and go for second best.
What other explanation can there be for not going for the best that they can afford, like all 'ambitious' clubs do? I have always questioned there 'ambition,' so what are they after? No one knows.
Having said that I respect GB for what he has done so far.
[quote][p][bold]ghost of sceptic[/bold] wrote: Massive gamble by Rovers again appointing a coach and not a tried and tested manager. Lets hope for Rovers sake the gamble pays off and we can get back up this season otherwise we will be in the football wilderness for years to come Good luck to Gary and his staff[/p][/quote]IMO they don't want an experienced manager because they can promote coaches and hire inexperienced managers on the cheap. They have demonstrated before that they are cheapskates and go for second best. What other explanation can there be for not going for the best that they can afford, like all 'ambitious' clubs do? I have always questioned there 'ambition,' so what are they after? No one knows. Having said that I respect GB for what he has done so far. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 4

6:39pm Wed 22 May 13

Donmartin says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
ghost of sceptic wrote: Massive gamble by Rovers again appointing a coach and not a tried and tested manager. Lets hope for Rovers sake the gamble pays off and we can get back up this season otherwise we will be in the football wilderness for years to come Good luck to Gary and his staff
IMO they don't want an experienced manager because they can promote coaches and hire inexperienced managers on the cheap. They have demonstrated before that they are cheapskates and go for second best. What other explanation can there be for not going for the best that they can afford, like all 'ambitious' clubs do? I have always questioned there 'ambition,' so what are they after? No one knows. Having said that I respect GB for what he has done so far.
Berg wasn't cheap!
It's not Venkys...it's Agnew and Shaw.
They won't be happy till they've screwed BRFC for every last penny.
GB should walk away now.
Hopefuly they'll see sense and get rid of the crooks.

Maradonna or Mourhino ?

B * ll * CKS
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghost of sceptic[/bold] wrote: Massive gamble by Rovers again appointing a coach and not a tried and tested manager. Lets hope for Rovers sake the gamble pays off and we can get back up this season otherwise we will be in the football wilderness for years to come Good luck to Gary and his staff[/p][/quote]IMO they don't want an experienced manager because they can promote coaches and hire inexperienced managers on the cheap. They have demonstrated before that they are cheapskates and go for second best. What other explanation can there be for not going for the best that they can afford, like all 'ambitious' clubs do? I have always questioned there 'ambition,' so what are they after? No one knows. Having said that I respect GB for what he has done so far.[/p][/quote]Berg wasn't cheap! It's not Venkys...it's Agnew and Shaw. They won't be happy till they've screwed BRFC for every last penny. GB should walk away now. Hopefuly they'll see sense and get rid of the crooks. Maradonna or Mourhino ? B * ll * CKS Donmartin
  • Score: 1

6:48pm Wed 22 May 13

CheltRover says...

lookupblackburn. wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
Gammon Flap wrote:
Brilliant news - Steve Kean Mark 2.

Managerial experience is not a pre-requisite of a Blackburn boss apparently.

Good luck Agent Bowyer, you have a hard act to follow but we will be supporting you all they way from down the M65.

Venky's are football genuises - they are doing a sterling job.
The first sign of a bit of common sense from Ewood in a long time. Why he was booted out for Appleton is anyones guess, but this is Venkys. Good luck GB and I hope they don't tie your hands behind your back then expect us to do well.
"The first sign of a bit of common sense from Ewood in a long time"

The above statement tells you all you need to know about your average Blackburn Rovers supporter.

Not content with seeing their club destroyed by a string of ineffective, inexperienced shaved space monkeys, they are now praising the appointment of yet another inexperienced bib and cone man on the back of a couple of lucky results against poor opposition.

When will you clowns learn, to compete in this league requires an experienced head, a man manager who can get the players to rise to the occasion and a personality to attract talent to the club. Bowyer may be a dab hand with the kids but he will be found out very quickly once the season starts. My money is on the first Blackburn fan to squeal "Bowyer out" after game 2 when you've been dismantled by Yeovil or some other mickey mouse outfit.

How many chances will you give Venky's?

You couldn't make this up.
Have to agree with the dingle on this one. Such a lack of ambition. Another missed opportunity
[quote][p][bold]lookupblackburn.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gammon Flap[/bold] wrote: Brilliant news - Steve Kean Mark 2. Managerial experience is not a pre-requisite of a Blackburn boss apparently. Good luck Agent Bowyer, you have a hard act to follow but we will be supporting you all they way from down the M65. Venky's are football genuises - they are doing a sterling job.[/p][/quote]The first sign of a bit of common sense from Ewood in a long time. Why he was booted out for Appleton is anyones guess, but this is Venkys. Good luck GB and I hope they don't tie your hands behind your back then expect us to do well.[/p][/quote]"The first sign of a bit of common sense from Ewood in a long time" The above statement tells you all you need to know about your average Blackburn Rovers supporter. Not content with seeing their club destroyed by a string of ineffective, inexperienced shaved space monkeys, they are now praising the appointment of yet another inexperienced bib and cone man on the back of a couple of lucky results against poor opposition. When will you clowns learn, to compete in this league requires an experienced head, a man manager who can get the players to rise to the occasion and a personality to attract talent to the club. Bowyer may be a dab hand with the kids but he will be found out very quickly once the season starts. My money is on the first Blackburn fan to squeal "Bowyer out" after game 2 when you've been dismantled by Yeovil or some other mickey mouse outfit. How many chances will you give Venky's? You couldn't make this up.[/p][/quote]Have to agree with the dingle on this one. Such a lack of ambition. Another missed opportunity CheltRover
  • Score: -1

7:00pm Wed 22 May 13

Ralph Jones says...

Good luck Garry I know you can steer us back to the upper heights of the Premeirship.
Good luck Garry I know you can steer us back to the upper heights of the Premeirship. Ralph Jones
  • Score: 0

7:00pm Wed 22 May 13

CheltRover says...

hasslem hasslem wrote:
gleechy wrote:
Gb is an interim manager and until people were worn down by inactivity at BRFC most fans were calling for an experienced manager as the only way forward. What has changed?
Have you all been brainwashed into accepting another as recommended by Shebby?

If GB takes the job, not only is he not acting in the best interest of BRFC, but we have lost what has been the best back up since Tony Parkes.

Don't slate the owners for being naive when he is found wanting,the majority of well groomed fans on here are now supporting the appointment of GB, what's got into you?
If GB takes the job you can't turn round ten games into the season and say what a stupid thing to do, employ another rookie.

This is a very big risk move by the incompetent owners who have previously thrown good money into bad mistakes that instead would of secured a decent manager for the good of the club.

They need a very good manager that can compete, to get us out of this with GB churning out good trainees, nothing short of that will do.

How people who say they have been following football for X amount of years can agree with this cop out is amazing and quite frankly will look good to the rest of the footballing world looking in that you can't make your minds up.
there is a flaw in your posting and that assumes that gary bowyer is happy to sit in the background working for the clowns in town and the loons in pune.

if i were gary bowyer - i would be saying to them "its the manager's job on decent wedge, or i am off"

given his success at rovers in bringing young 'uns through for a number of years - i am absolutely certain other clubs (and premiership ones at that) would see the value of recruiting GB to their club. his stock has risen and continues to rise and alternative clubs offer more stability than at ewood/brockhall where there has even been rumours of disbanding the academy.
Big big difference between coaching kids and managing the first team. Especially if we are serious about trying to get back into the Prem before the parachute money runs out. Can't see GB getting us higher than where we finished last season.
[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gleechy[/bold] wrote: Gb is an interim manager and until people were worn down by inactivity at BRFC most fans were calling for an experienced manager as the only way forward. What has changed? Have you all been brainwashed into accepting another as recommended by Shebby? If GB takes the job, not only is he not acting in the best interest of BRFC, but we have lost what has been the best back up since Tony Parkes. Don't slate the owners for being naive when he is found wanting,the majority of well groomed fans on here are now supporting the appointment of GB, what's got into you? If GB takes the job you can't turn round ten games into the season and say what a stupid thing to do, employ another rookie. This is a very big risk move by the incompetent owners who have previously thrown good money into bad mistakes that instead would of secured a decent manager for the good of the club. They need a very good manager that can compete, to get us out of this with GB churning out good trainees, nothing short of that will do. How people who say they have been following football for X amount of years can agree with this cop out is amazing and quite frankly will look good to the rest of the footballing world looking in that you can't make your minds up.[/p][/quote]there is a flaw in your posting and that assumes that gary bowyer is happy to sit in the background working for the clowns in town and the loons in pune. if i were gary bowyer - i would be saying to them "its the manager's job on decent wedge, or i am off" given his success at rovers in bringing young 'uns through for a number of years - i am absolutely certain other clubs (and premiership ones at that) would see the value of recruiting GB to their club. his stock has risen and continues to rise and alternative clubs offer more stability than at ewood/brockhall where there has even been rumours of disbanding the academy.[/p][/quote]Big big difference between coaching kids and managing the first team. Especially if we are serious about trying to get back into the Prem before the parachute money runs out. Can't see GB getting us higher than where we finished last season. CheltRover
  • Score: 2

7:16pm Wed 22 May 13

capri1 says...

Stone Island: wrote:
Good luck to GB. The right choice at the right time. At least he knows what a shambles the club is, and he has the right tools to work with; Singh, Shaw and Agnew.
Lets hope those tools aren't YES!YES!YES!
[quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: Good luck to GB. The right choice at the right time. At least he knows what a shambles the club is, and he has the right tools to work with; Singh, Shaw and Agnew.[/p][/quote]Lets hope those tools aren't YES!YES!YES! capri1
  • Score: 0

7:16pm Wed 22 May 13

Wild Rover says...

Well thats another day of positive thinking over for the Rovers fans on these threads
Being so cheerfull what keeps em going
Well thats another day of positive thinking over for the Rovers fans on these threads Being so cheerfull what keeps em going Wild Rover
  • Score: -1

7:23pm Wed 22 May 13

Harwoodstblue says...

Donmartin wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
ghost of sceptic wrote: Massive gamble by Rovers again appointing a coach and not a tried and tested manager. Lets hope for Rovers sake the gamble pays off and we can get back up this season otherwise we will be in the football wilderness for years to come Good luck to Gary and his staff
IMO they don't want an experienced manager because they can promote coaches and hire inexperienced managers on the cheap. They have demonstrated before that they are cheapskates and go for second best. What other explanation can there be for not going for the best that they can afford, like all 'ambitious' clubs do? I have always questioned there 'ambition,' so what are they after? No one knows. Having said that I respect GB for what he has done so far.
Berg wasn't cheap!
It's not Venkys...it's Agnew and Shaw.
They won't be happy till they've screwed BRFC for every last penny.
GB should walk away now.
Hopefuly they'll see sense and get rid of the crooks.

Maradonna or Mourhino ?

B * ll * CKS
You missed my point. Why is it they won't go for the best manager that they can afford, like ambitious clubs do?
[quote][p][bold]Donmartin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghost of sceptic[/bold] wrote: Massive gamble by Rovers again appointing a coach and not a tried and tested manager. Lets hope for Rovers sake the gamble pays off and we can get back up this season otherwise we will be in the football wilderness for years to come Good luck to Gary and his staff[/p][/quote]IMO they don't want an experienced manager because they can promote coaches and hire inexperienced managers on the cheap. They have demonstrated before that they are cheapskates and go for second best. What other explanation can there be for not going for the best that they can afford, like all 'ambitious' clubs do? I have always questioned there 'ambition,' so what are they after? No one knows. Having said that I respect GB for what he has done so far.[/p][/quote]Berg wasn't cheap! It's not Venkys...it's Agnew and Shaw. They won't be happy till they've screwed BRFC for every last penny. GB should walk away now. Hopefuly they'll see sense and get rid of the crooks. Maradonna or Mourhino ? B * ll * CKS[/p][/quote]You missed my point. Why is it they won't go for the best manager that they can afford, like ambitious clubs do? Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 3

8:22pm Wed 22 May 13

petergray says...

Seems to be a lack of understanding of laws related to libel here.
Either L. T. is paranoid or the evil empire has cast it's wicked eye.
Seems to be a lack of understanding of laws related to libel here. Either L. T. is paranoid or the evil empire has cast it's wicked eye. petergray
  • Score: -1

8:24pm Wed 22 May 13

speedie_rovers_legend says...

Bottom line is that Bowyer as been got on the cheap, 2 more years of these clowns Venkys as they continue to take the parachute payments and sell what rubbish we still have left at the club, and then they will jump ship, good luck to those who still go to support these evil parasites .. you deserve each other.
Bottom line is that Bowyer as been got on the cheap, 2 more years of these clowns Venkys as they continue to take the parachute payments and sell what rubbish we still have left at the club, and then they will jump ship, good luck to those who still go to support these evil parasites .. you deserve each other. speedie_rovers_legend
  • Score: 2

8:51pm Wed 22 May 13

Iiii1111 says...

CheltRover wrote:
hasslem hasslem wrote:
gleechy wrote:
Gb is an interim manager and until people were worn down by inactivity at BRFC most fans were calling for an experienced manager as the only way forward. What has changed?
Have you all been brainwashed into accepting another as recommended by Shebby?

If GB takes the job, not only is he not acting in the best interest of BRFC, but we have lost what has been the best back up since Tony Parkes.

Don't slate the owners for being naive when he is found wanting,the majority of well groomed fans on here are now supporting the appointment of GB, what's got into you?
If GB takes the job you can't turn round ten games into the season and say what a stupid thing to do, employ another rookie.

This is a very big risk move by the incompetent owners who have previously thrown good money into bad mistakes that instead would of secured a decent manager for the good of the club.

They need a very good manager that can compete, to get us out of this with GB churning out good trainees, nothing short of that will do.

How people who say they have been following football for X amount of years can agree with this cop out is amazing and quite frankly will look good to the rest of the footballing world looking in that you can't make your minds up.
there is a flaw in your posting and that assumes that gary bowyer is happy to sit in the background working for the clowns in town and the loons in pune.

if i were gary bowyer - i would be saying to them "its the manager's job on decent wedge, or i am off"

given his success at rovers in bringing young 'uns through for a number of years - i am absolutely certain other clubs (and premiership ones at that) would see the value of recruiting GB to their club. his stock has risen and continues to rise and alternative clubs offer more stability than at ewood/brockhall where there has even been rumours of disbanding the academy.
Big big difference between coaching kids and managing the first team. Especially if we are serious about trying to get back into the Prem before the parachute money runs out. Can't see GB getting us higher than where we finished last season.
Got to take that opinion with pinch of salt...."can't see GB getting us higher.........." Really? Perhaps you haven't seen GB's record when he was in charge.....p 13 w 6 d 4 l3 .....if GB had been in charge for the full season and replicated similar results then we might well be all making a trip to wembley this Monday.

For god sake give the man some credit cos now't for sure with out his imput we'd be watching PNE next season!
[quote][p][bold]CheltRover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gleechy[/bold] wrote: Gb is an interim manager and until people were worn down by inactivity at BRFC most fans were calling for an experienced manager as the only way forward. What has changed? Have you all been brainwashed into accepting another as recommended by Shebby? If GB takes the job, not only is he not acting in the best interest of BRFC, but we have lost what has been the best back up since Tony Parkes. Don't slate the owners for being naive when he is found wanting,the majority of well groomed fans on here are now supporting the appointment of GB, what's got into you? If GB takes the job you can't turn round ten games into the season and say what a stupid thing to do, employ another rookie. This is a very big risk move by the incompetent owners who have previously thrown good money into bad mistakes that instead would of secured a decent manager for the good of the club. They need a very good manager that can compete, to get us out of this with GB churning out good trainees, nothing short of that will do. How people who say they have been following football for X amount of years can agree with this cop out is amazing and quite frankly will look good to the rest of the footballing world looking in that you can't make your minds up.[/p][/quote]there is a flaw in your posting and that assumes that gary bowyer is happy to sit in the background working for the clowns in town and the loons in pune. if i were gary bowyer - i would be saying to them "its the manager's job on decent wedge, or i am off" given his success at rovers in bringing young 'uns through for a number of years - i am absolutely certain other clubs (and premiership ones at that) would see the value of recruiting GB to their club. his stock has risen and continues to rise and alternative clubs offer more stability than at ewood/brockhall where there has even been rumours of disbanding the academy.[/p][/quote]Big big difference between coaching kids and managing the first team. Especially if we are serious about trying to get back into the Prem before the parachute money runs out. Can't see GB getting us higher than where we finished last season.[/p][/quote]Got to take that opinion with pinch of salt...."can't see GB getting us higher.........." Really? Perhaps you haven't seen GB's record when he was in charge.....p 13 w 6 d 4 l3 .....if GB had been in charge for the full season and replicated similar results then we might well be all making a trip to wembley this Monday. For god sake give the man some credit cos now't for sure with out his imput we'd be watching PNE next season! Iiii1111
  • Score: 1

8:59pm Wed 22 May 13

Bazzer says...

Iiii1111 wrote:
CheltRover wrote:
hasslem hasslem wrote:
gleechy wrote: Gb is an interim manager and until people were worn down by inactivity at BRFC most fans were calling for an experienced manager as the only way forward. What has changed? Have you all been brainwashed into accepting another as recommended by Shebby? If GB takes the job, not only is he not acting in the best interest of BRFC, but we have lost what has been the best back up since Tony Parkes. Don't slate the owners for being naive when he is found wanting,the majority of well groomed fans on here are now supporting the appointment of GB, what's got into you? If GB takes the job you can't turn round ten games into the season and say what a stupid thing to do, employ another rookie. This is a very big risk move by the incompetent owners who have previously thrown good money into bad mistakes that instead would of secured a decent manager for the good of the club. They need a very good manager that can compete, to get us out of this with GB churning out good trainees, nothing short of that will do. How people who say they have been following football for X amount of years can agree with this cop out is amazing and quite frankly will look good to the rest of the footballing world looking in that you can't make your minds up.
there is a flaw in your posting and that assumes that gary bowyer is happy to sit in the background working for the clowns in town and the loons in pune. if i were gary bowyer - i would be saying to them "its the manager's job on decent wedge, or i am off" given his success at rovers in bringing young 'uns through for a number of years - i am absolutely certain other clubs (and premiership ones at that) would see the value of recruiting GB to their club. his stock has risen and continues to rise and alternative clubs offer more stability than at ewood/brockhall where there has even been rumours of disbanding the academy.
Big big difference between coaching kids and managing the first team. Especially if we are serious about trying to get back into the Prem before the parachute money runs out. Can't see GB getting us higher than where we finished last season.
Got to take that opinion with pinch of salt...."can't see GB getting us higher.........." Really? Perhaps you haven't seen GB's record when he was in charge.....p 13 w 6 d 4 l3 .....if GB had been in charge for the full season and replicated similar results then we might well be all making a trip to wembley this Monday. For god sake give the man some credit cos now't for sure with out his imput we'd be watching PNE next season!
I agree wholeheartedly with the appointment of Bowyer - but fear your snapshot statistical analysis is open to all sorts of critique. There simply are not enough matches to qualify it as a viable sample.
[quote][p][bold]Iiii1111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CheltRover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gleechy[/bold] wrote: Gb is an interim manager and until people were worn down by inactivity at BRFC most fans were calling for an experienced manager as the only way forward. What has changed? Have you all been brainwashed into accepting another as recommended by Shebby? If GB takes the job, not only is he not acting in the best interest of BRFC, but we have lost what has been the best back up since Tony Parkes. Don't slate the owners for being naive when he is found wanting,the majority of well groomed fans on here are now supporting the appointment of GB, what's got into you? If GB takes the job you can't turn round ten games into the season and say what a stupid thing to do, employ another rookie. This is a very big risk move by the incompetent owners who have previously thrown good money into bad mistakes that instead would of secured a decent manager for the good of the club. They need a very good manager that can compete, to get us out of this with GB churning out good trainees, nothing short of that will do. How people who say they have been following football for X amount of years can agree with this cop out is amazing and quite frankly will look good to the rest of the footballing world looking in that you can't make your minds up.[/p][/quote]there is a flaw in your posting and that assumes that gary bowyer is happy to sit in the background working for the clowns in town and the loons in pune. if i were gary bowyer - i would be saying to them "its the manager's job on decent wedge, or i am off" given his success at rovers in bringing young 'uns through for a number of years - i am absolutely certain other clubs (and premiership ones at that) would see the value of recruiting GB to their club. his stock has risen and continues to rise and alternative clubs offer more stability than at ewood/brockhall where there has even been rumours of disbanding the academy.[/p][/quote]Big big difference between coaching kids and managing the first team. Especially if we are serious about trying to get back into the Prem before the parachute money runs out. Can't see GB getting us higher than where we finished last season.[/p][/quote]Got to take that opinion with pinch of salt...."can't see GB getting us higher.........." Really? Perhaps you haven't seen GB's record when he was in charge.....p 13 w 6 d 4 l3 .....if GB had been in charge for the full season and replicated similar results then we might well be all making a trip to wembley this Monday. For god sake give the man some credit cos now't for sure with out his imput we'd be watching PNE next season![/p][/quote]I agree wholeheartedly with the appointment of Bowyer - but fear your snapshot statistical analysis is open to all sorts of critique. There simply are not enough matches to qualify it as a viable sample. Bazzer
  • Score: 2

9:06pm Wed 22 May 13

hasslem hasslem says...

Wild Rover wrote:
Well thats another day of positive thinking over for the Rovers fans on these threads
Being so cheerfull what keeps em going
wild rover - well, given that the LT this morning in the paper and online were saying the deal was "COMPLETE"..... clearly it is not.

the season finished coming up for 3 weeks ago - the beloved singh said the job was bowyer's if he kept us up.....and still no appointment.

the LT article is unequivocal - there is no "LT understands" or LT believes. It states (once again) the deal is complete. They have obviously been informed by one or more of the heads on the three headed serpent.

if you think that both these linked points are positive indications that the club is moving in the right direction.....then i am afraid mr wild rover you must think denial is a big river in north africa.
[quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: Well thats another day of positive thinking over for the Rovers fans on these threads Being so cheerfull what keeps em going[/p][/quote]wild rover - well, given that the LT this morning in the paper and online were saying the deal was "COMPLETE"..... clearly it is not. the season finished coming up for 3 weeks ago - the beloved singh said the job was bowyer's if he kept us up.....and still no appointment. the LT article is unequivocal - there is no "LT understands" or LT believes. It states (once again) the deal is complete. They have obviously been informed by one or more of the heads on the three headed serpent. if you think that both these linked points are positive indications that the club is moving in the right direction.....then i am afraid mr wild rover you must think denial is a big river in north africa. hasslem hasslem
  • Score: 0

9:13pm Wed 22 May 13

krish brfc says...

at last someone with some hair lolz
at last someone with some hair lolz krish brfc
  • Score: 0

9:16pm Wed 22 May 13

keanoutofrovers says...

Best of luck Gary. Unfortunately I can see the story now. Venkys dismiss Bowyer after 61 days as he fails to pick up any points during June and July.
Best of luck Gary. Unfortunately I can see the story now. Venkys dismiss Bowyer after 61 days as he fails to pick up any points during June and July. keanoutofrovers
  • Score: 2

9:18pm Wed 22 May 13

krish brfc says...

i m a diehard fan of brfc from 20yrs and will support my team no matter wat . i wish to see them in epl soon hopefully and GB for me is a good choice and i support him fully .all the best brfc i love u muahh forever
i m a diehard fan of brfc from 20yrs and will support my team no matter wat . i wish to see them in epl soon hopefully and GB for me is a good choice and i support him fully .all the best brfc i love u muahh forever krish brfc
  • Score: 0

9:23pm Wed 22 May 13

dangerous dave says...

earwego wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
French Rover wrote:
Good Luck GB....you fully deserve a crack at the job - nice to see someone appointed who has the support of all (or most) of all the Rovers fans...
afraid you are well wide of the mark with your comments - GB just ' Kean 2' another cheap option - you'd think they would learn by their past experiences but not these clowns!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM
Another constructive comment from the prophet of doom
Dont need a prophet for this one - just the simple truth - another manager on the cheap
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH VENKYS HENDRY COAR
[quote][p][bold]earwego[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: Good Luck GB....you fully deserve a crack at the job - nice to see someone appointed who has the support of all (or most) of all the Rovers fans...[/p][/quote]afraid you are well wide of the mark with your comments - GB just ' Kean 2' another cheap option - you'd think they would learn by their past experiences but not these clowns!!!!!!!!!!!!! OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM[/p][/quote]Another constructive comment from the prophet of doom[/p][/quote]Dont need a prophet for this one - just the simple truth - another manager on the cheap OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH VENKYS HENDRY COAR dangerous dave
  • Score: 2

9:30pm Wed 22 May 13

Leonard Venkhater says...

To sum up...

Love Rovers. Hate Venky's... and all those who line their pockets, while dismantling our club and its reputation.

The truth will out.

Meanwhile, Good luck to Gary Bowyer.
To sum up... Love Rovers. Hate Venky's... and all those who line their pockets, while dismantling our club and its reputation. The truth will out. Meanwhile, Good luck to Gary Bowyer. Leonard Venkhater
  • Score: 1

9:34pm Wed 22 May 13

Shane says...

hasslem hasslem wrote:
French Rover wrote:
Good Luck GB....you fully deserve a crack at the job - nice to see someone appointed who has the support of all (or most) of all the Rovers fans...
agree with this sentiment - IF IT HAPPENS

but as for the previous thread and linking it to this one.

FR - the headline on this article says appointed, the first para says "ready to unveil" the second para reads "waiting for the green light from owners"

now far be it from me but the LT posted this at 9.48 this morning and presumably it was on the back pages before this.........BUT it is now gone 1500hrs and there is:
1) nothing on rovers official website
2) nowt on bbc website
3) nothing on the sky sports news website
4) nothing on talkspurs website
5) nothing on newsnow
.......so maybe i didn't pontificate too soon.

i really really hope it gets confirmed later today - but isn't this a perfect example how common sense does not prevail.

we all know that on relegation steve kean was sacked - everybody knew - and then cruella intervened on some spurious logic that because fester has a nice missus that he deserved a second (second - that's a joke) chance - - that is the sort of common sense we are dealing with here.

with rovers i would under its current stewardship i would not believe anything until it was signed, sealed and delivered and stood right in front of me with the documentary proof.....call me a cynic - but these bunch of idiots would not recognise common sense if they fell over it.
There's also been::
*Nothing on the BBC 6 - o clock news
*Nothing on the BBC Work\ld Service
*Nothing from 10 Downing Street
*Nothing from the Palace
*Nothing from the Vatican

You've still got delusions of granduer. You're in the Chumpionship numb nuts. NO ONE CARES ABOUT WOVERS.

Now get your hand off it
[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: Good Luck GB....you fully deserve a crack at the job - nice to see someone appointed who has the support of all (or most) of all the Rovers fans...[/p][/quote]agree with this sentiment - IF IT HAPPENS but as for the previous thread and linking it to this one. FR - the headline on this article says appointed, the first para says "ready to unveil" the second para reads "waiting for the green light from owners" now far be it from me but the LT posted this at 9.48 this morning and presumably it was on the back pages before this.........BUT it is now gone 1500hrs and there is: 1) nothing on rovers official website 2) nowt on bbc website 3) nothing on the sky sports news website 4) nothing on talkspurs website 5) nothing on newsnow .......so maybe i didn't pontificate too soon. i really really hope it gets confirmed later today - but isn't this a perfect example how common sense does not prevail. we all know that on relegation steve kean was sacked - everybody knew - and then cruella intervened on some spurious logic that because fester has a nice missus that he deserved a second (second - that's a joke) chance - - that is the sort of common sense we are dealing with here. with rovers i would under its current stewardship i would not believe anything until it was signed, sealed and delivered and stood right in front of me with the documentary proof.....call me a cynic - but these bunch of idiots would not recognise common sense if they fell over it.[/p][/quote]There's also been:: *Nothing on the BBC 6 - o clock news *Nothing on the BBC Work\ld Service *Nothing from 10 Downing Street *Nothing from the Palace *Nothing from the Vatican You've still got delusions of granduer. You're in the Chumpionship numb nuts. NO ONE CARES ABOUT WOVERS. Now get your hand off it Shane
  • Score: -5

9:56pm Wed 22 May 13

M.DANNY says...

GB sorry you are just a coach just like Tony Parkes.Brfc needs an experienced manager not a DIY man.
Another appointment on the cheap by Venkys and those three clowns Shebby,Shaw and Agnew.Venkys are not ambitious and dismantling our club.
Forget PL now we are staying in Championship for years and could get relegated in League one just like Wolves.
GB sorry you are just a coach just like Tony Parkes.Brfc needs an experienced manager not a DIY man. Another appointment on the cheap by Venkys and those three clowns Shebby,Shaw and Agnew.Venkys are not ambitious and dismantling our club. Forget PL now we are staying in Championship for years and could get relegated in League one just like Wolves. M.DANNY
  • Score: 5

9:56pm Wed 22 May 13

hasslem hasslem says...

Shane wrote:
hasslem hasslem wrote:
French Rover wrote:
Good Luck GB....you fully deserve a crack at the job - nice to see someone appointed who has the support of all (or most) of all the Rovers fans...
agree with this sentiment - IF IT HAPPENS

but as for the previous thread and linking it to this one.

FR - the headline on this article says appointed, the first para says "ready to unveil" the second para reads "waiting for the green light from owners"

now far be it from me but the LT posted this at 9.48 this morning and presumably it was on the back pages before this.........BUT it is now gone 1500hrs and there is:
1) nothing on rovers official website
2) nowt on bbc website
3) nothing on the sky sports news website
4) nothing on talkspurs website
5) nothing on newsnow
.......so maybe i didn't pontificate too soon.

i really really hope it gets confirmed later today - but isn't this a perfect example how common sense does not prevail.

we all know that on relegation steve kean was sacked - everybody knew - and then cruella intervened on some spurious logic that because fester has a nice missus that he deserved a second (second - that's a joke) chance - - that is the sort of common sense we are dealing with here.

with rovers i would under its current stewardship i would not believe anything until it was signed, sealed and delivered and stood right in front of me with the documentary proof.....call me a cynic - but these bunch of idiots would not recognise common sense if they fell over it.
There's also been::
*Nothing on the BBC 6 - o clock news
*Nothing on the BBC Work\ld Service
*Nothing from 10 Downing Street
*Nothing from the Palace
*Nothing from the Vatican

You've still got delusions of granduer. You're in the Chumpionship numb nuts. NO ONE CARES ABOUT WOVERS.

Now get your hand off it
oh do shut up you united prat
[quote][p][bold]Shane[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: Good Luck GB....you fully deserve a crack at the job - nice to see someone appointed who has the support of all (or most) of all the Rovers fans...[/p][/quote]agree with this sentiment - IF IT HAPPENS but as for the previous thread and linking it to this one. FR - the headline on this article says appointed, the first para says "ready to unveil" the second para reads "waiting for the green light from owners" now far be it from me but the LT posted this at 9.48 this morning and presumably it was on the back pages before this.........BUT it is now gone 1500hrs and there is: 1) nothing on rovers official website 2) nowt on bbc website 3) nothing on the sky sports news website 4) nothing on talkspurs website 5) nothing on newsnow .......so maybe i didn't pontificate too soon. i really really hope it gets confirmed later today - but isn't this a perfect example how common sense does not prevail. we all know that on relegation steve kean was sacked - everybody knew - and then cruella intervened on some spurious logic that because fester has a nice missus that he deserved a second (second - that's a joke) chance - - that is the sort of common sense we are dealing with here. with rovers i would under its current stewardship i would not believe anything until it was signed, sealed and delivered and stood right in front of me with the documentary proof.....call me a cynic - but these bunch of idiots would not recognise common sense if they fell over it.[/p][/quote]There's also been:: *Nothing on the BBC 6 - o clock news *Nothing on the BBC Work\ld Service *Nothing from 10 Downing Street *Nothing from the Palace *Nothing from the Vatican You've still got delusions of granduer. You're in the Chumpionship numb nuts. NO ONE CARES ABOUT WOVERS. Now get your hand off it[/p][/quote]oh do shut up you united prat hasslem hasslem
  • Score: 1

9:58pm Wed 22 May 13

srvp28 says...

Shane wrote:
hasslem hasslem wrote:
French Rover wrote:
Good Luck GB....you fully deserve a crack at the job - nice to see someone appointed who has the support of all (or most) of all the Rovers fans...
agree with this sentiment - IF IT HAPPENS

but as for the previous thread and linking it to this one.

FR - the headline on this article says appointed, the first para says "ready to unveil" the second para reads "waiting for the green light from owners"

now far be it from me but the LT posted this at 9.48 this morning and presumably it was on the back pages before this.........BUT it is now gone 1500hrs and there is:
1) nothing on rovers official website
2) nowt on bbc website
3) nothing on the sky sports news website
4) nothing on talkspurs website
5) nothing on newsnow
.......so maybe i didn't pontificate too soon.

i really really hope it gets confirmed later today - but isn't this a perfect example how common sense does not prevail.

we all know that on relegation steve kean was sacked - everybody knew - and then cruella intervened on some spurious logic that because fester has a nice missus that he deserved a second (second - that's a joke) chance - - that is the sort of common sense we are dealing with here.

with rovers i would under its current stewardship i would not believe anything until it was signed, sealed and delivered and stood right in front of me with the documentary proof.....call me a cynic - but these bunch of idiots would not recognise common sense if they fell over it.
There's also been::
*Nothing on the BBC 6 - o clock news
*Nothing on the BBC Work\ld Service
*Nothing from 10 Downing Street
*Nothing from the Palace
*Nothing from the Vatican

You've still got delusions of granduer. You're in the Chumpionship numb nuts. NO ONE CARES ABOUT WOVERS.

Now get your hand off it
You obviously do, numb nuts, or you wouldn't be obsessed with Rovers stories.
[quote][p][bold]Shane[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: Good Luck GB....you fully deserve a crack at the job - nice to see someone appointed who has the support of all (or most) of all the Rovers fans...[/p][/quote]agree with this sentiment - IF IT HAPPENS but as for the previous thread and linking it to this one. FR - the headline on this article says appointed, the first para says "ready to unveil" the second para reads "waiting for the green light from owners" now far be it from me but the LT posted this at 9.48 this morning and presumably it was on the back pages before this.........BUT it is now gone 1500hrs and there is: 1) nothing on rovers official website 2) nowt on bbc website 3) nothing on the sky sports news website 4) nothing on talkspurs website 5) nothing on newsnow .......so maybe i didn't pontificate too soon. i really really hope it gets confirmed later today - but isn't this a perfect example how common sense does not prevail. we all know that on relegation steve kean was sacked - everybody knew - and then cruella intervened on some spurious logic that because fester has a nice missus that he deserved a second (second - that's a joke) chance - - that is the sort of common sense we are dealing with here. with rovers i would under its current stewardship i would not believe anything until it was signed, sealed and delivered and stood right in front of me with the documentary proof.....call me a cynic - but these bunch of idiots would not recognise common sense if they fell over it.[/p][/quote]There's also been:: *Nothing on the BBC 6 - o clock news *Nothing on the BBC Work\ld Service *Nothing from 10 Downing Street *Nothing from the Palace *Nothing from the Vatican You've still got delusions of granduer. You're in the Chumpionship numb nuts. NO ONE CARES ABOUT WOVERS. Now get your hand off it[/p][/quote]You obviously do, numb nuts, or you wouldn't be obsessed with Rovers stories. srvp28
  • Score: 6

10:12pm Wed 22 May 13

Papadoc The Major MC says...

So sorry Gary. You will bite the dust if you don't get the Rovers back in the Premiership come the end of 2013-14 season. Also a bad start will see the end of you.
So sorry Gary. You will bite the dust if you don't get the Rovers back in the Premiership come the end of 2013-14 season. Also a bad start will see the end of you. Papadoc The Major MC
  • Score: -1

10:14pm Wed 22 May 13

granty says...

It's what most of us expected I think.
GB did what was required to keep us up (just).
Whilst we were very poor against the top sides, we did show signs of improvement under him, particularly regarding the number and frequency of injuries towards the end.
I think his man management skills were the thing that improved the players attitude, and in turn the teams general performances.
Yes we'd all like a 'proven' manager, but this dies not guarantee you success has has been seen with Wigan and qpr etc. we need to get the best out if the players we are Lilly to be able to obtain and personally I think GB looks like the man for the job in that respect.
His knowledge of the youth system and youth players out there in other teams, may also help when scouting for new blood too. I just hope our own youth system is being looked after.
Getting someone else in is just as big if a risk as keeping GB. Better the devil you know and all that. Good luck to him and lets hope he gets a few quid to bring in a couple of new lads, hungry for the game. We're not about to go splashing millions that's for sure but venkys might just surprise us like they did with Rhodes, who ultimately kept us up.
Bring on next season.... It can't get any worse..... Can it??
It's what most of us expected I think. GB did what was required to keep us up (just). Whilst we were very poor against the top sides, we did show signs of improvement under him, particularly regarding the number and frequency of injuries towards the end. I think his man management skills were the thing that improved the players attitude, and in turn the teams general performances. Yes we'd all like a 'proven' manager, but this dies not guarantee you success has has been seen with Wigan and qpr etc. we need to get the best out if the players we are Lilly to be able to obtain and personally I think GB looks like the man for the job in that respect. His knowledge of the youth system and youth players out there in other teams, may also help when scouting for new blood too. I just hope our own youth system is being looked after. Getting someone else in is just as big if a risk as keeping GB. Better the devil you know and all that. Good luck to him and lets hope he gets a few quid to bring in a couple of new lads, hungry for the game. We're not about to go splashing millions that's for sure but venkys might just surprise us like they did with Rhodes, who ultimately kept us up. Bring on next season.... It can't get any worse..... Can it?? granty
  • Score: 0

10:39pm Wed 22 May 13

CheltRover says...

Bazzer wrote:
Iiii1111 wrote:
CheltRover wrote:
hasslem hasslem wrote:
gleechy wrote: Gb is an interim manager and until people were worn down by inactivity at BRFC most fans were calling for an experienced manager as the only way forward. What has changed? Have you all been brainwashed into accepting another as recommended by Shebby? If GB takes the job, not only is he not acting in the best interest of BRFC, but we have lost what has been the best back up since Tony Parkes. Don't slate the owners for being naive when he is found wanting,the majority of well groomed fans on here are now supporting the appointment of GB, what's got into you? If GB takes the job you can't turn round ten games into the season and say what a stupid thing to do, employ another rookie. This is a very big risk move by the incompetent owners who have previously thrown good money into bad mistakes that instead would of secured a decent manager for the good of the club. They need a very good manager that can compete, to get us out of this with GB churning out good trainees, nothing short of that will do. How people who say they have been following football for X amount of years can agree with this cop out is amazing and quite frankly will look good to the rest of the footballing world looking in that you can't make your minds up.
there is a flaw in your posting and that assumes that gary bowyer is happy to sit in the background working for the clowns in town and the loons in pune. if i were gary bowyer - i would be saying to them "its the manager's job on decent wedge, or i am off" given his success at rovers in bringing young 'uns through for a number of years - i am absolutely certain other clubs (and premiership ones at that) would see the value of recruiting GB to their club. his stock has risen and continues to rise and alternative clubs offer more stability than at ewood/brockhall where there has even been rumours of disbanding the academy.
Big big difference between coaching kids and managing the first team. Especially if we are serious about trying to get back into the Prem before the parachute money runs out. Can't see GB getting us higher than where we finished last season.
Got to take that opinion with pinch of salt...."can't see GB getting us higher.........." Really? Perhaps you haven't seen GB's record when he was in charge.....p 13 w 6 d 4 l3 .....if GB had been in charge for the full season and replicated similar results then we might well be all making a trip to wembley this Monday. For god sake give the man some credit cos now't for sure with out his imput we'd be watching PNE next season!
I agree wholeheartedly with the appointment of Bowyer - but fear your snapshot statistical analysis is open to all sorts of critique. There simply are not enough matches to qualify it as a viable sample.
Absolutely. Only a fool would extrapolate 13 games to 46 Nd start talking about promotion. 13 games. That's the sum total of his management experience. You also neglect to analyse those 13 games fully. We were totally outclassed in a lot of them. Not what I aspire to. You may be more easily pleased
[quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Iiii1111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CheltRover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gleechy[/bold] wrote: Gb is an interim manager and until people were worn down by inactivity at BRFC most fans were calling for an experienced manager as the only way forward. What has changed? Have you all been brainwashed into accepting another as recommended by Shebby? If GB takes the job, not only is he not acting in the best interest of BRFC, but we have lost what has been the best back up since Tony Parkes. Don't slate the owners for being naive when he is found wanting,the majority of well groomed fans on here are now supporting the appointment of GB, what's got into you? If GB takes the job you can't turn round ten games into the season and say what a stupid thing to do, employ another rookie. This is a very big risk move by the incompetent owners who have previously thrown good money into bad mistakes that instead would of secured a decent manager for the good of the club. They need a very good manager that can compete, to get us out of this with GB churning out good trainees, nothing short of that will do. How people who say they have been following football for X amount of years can agree with this cop out is amazing and quite frankly will look good to the rest of the footballing world looking in that you can't make your minds up.[/p][/quote]there is a flaw in your posting and that assumes that gary bowyer is happy to sit in the background working for the clowns in town and the loons in pune. if i were gary bowyer - i would be saying to them "its the manager's job on decent wedge, or i am off" given his success at rovers in bringing young 'uns through for a number of years - i am absolutely certain other clubs (and premiership ones at that) would see the value of recruiting GB to their club. his stock has risen and continues to rise and alternative clubs offer more stability than at ewood/brockhall where there has even been rumours of disbanding the academy.[/p][/quote]Big big difference between coaching kids and managing the first team. Especially if we are serious about trying to get back into the Prem before the parachute money runs out. Can't see GB getting us higher than where we finished last season.[/p][/quote]Got to take that opinion with pinch of salt...."can't see GB getting us higher.........." Really? Perhaps you haven't seen GB's record when he was in charge.....p 13 w 6 d 4 l3 .....if GB had been in charge for the full season and replicated similar results then we might well be all making a trip to wembley this Monday. For god sake give the man some credit cos now't for sure with out his imput we'd be watching PNE next season![/p][/quote]I agree wholeheartedly with the appointment of Bowyer - but fear your snapshot statistical analysis is open to all sorts of critique. There simply are not enough matches to qualify it as a viable sample.[/p][/quote]Absolutely. Only a fool would extrapolate 13 games to 46 Nd start talking about promotion. 13 games. That's the sum total of his management experience. You also neglect to analyse those 13 games fully. We were totally outclassed in a lot of them. Not what I aspire to. You may be more easily pleased CheltRover
  • Score: 1

10:44pm Wed 22 May 13

kazluvsrovers says...

GameRoverMan wrote:
A Darener wrote:
Just as a matter of interest could somebody explain why Steve Kean never appears in the list of candidates for vacant managers jobs? After all according to the top managers Ferguson, Moyes etc he was the best thing since sliced bread!
Yeah, apparently the Chelski fans are getting a bit restless at the prospect of having Steve Kean as Mourinho's number 2 as rumoured in several papers. When Abramovich gets fed up of Mourinho for the second time as no doubt he will, Chelski might be left with Kean as manager - not a happy prospect for Chelski fans!
If that happened it would be interesting to see the post match hand shake when they play West Ham!!
[quote][p][bold]GameRoverMan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Just as a matter of interest could somebody explain why Steve Kean never appears in the list of candidates for vacant managers jobs? After all according to the top managers Ferguson, Moyes etc he was the best thing since sliced bread![/p][/quote]Yeah, apparently the Chelski fans are getting a bit restless at the prospect of having Steve Kean as Mourinho's number 2 as rumoured in several papers. When Abramovich gets fed up of Mourinho for the second time as no doubt he will, Chelski might be left with Kean as manager - not a happy prospect for Chelski fans![/p][/quote]If that happened it would be interesting to see the post match hand shake when they play West Ham!! kazluvsrovers
  • Score: 0

10:50pm Wed 22 May 13

Iiii1111 says...

Bazzer wrote:
Iiii1111 wrote:
CheltRover wrote:
hasslem hasslem wrote:
gleechy wrote: Gb is an interim manager and until people were worn down by inactivity at BRFC most fans were calling for an experienced manager as the only way forward. What has changed? Have you all been brainwashed into accepting another as recommended by Shebby? If GB takes the job, not only is he not acting in the best interest of BRFC, but we have lost what has been the best back up since Tony Parkes. Don't slate the owners for being naive when he is found wanting,the majority of well groomed fans on here are now supporting the appointment of GB, what's got into you? If GB takes the job you can't turn round ten games into the season and say what a stupid thing to do, employ another rookie. This is a very big risk move by the incompetent owners who have previously thrown good money into bad mistakes that instead would of secured a decent manager for the good of the club. They need a very good manager that can compete, to get us out of this with GB churning out good trainees, nothing short of that will do. How people who say they have been following football for X amount of years can agree with this cop out is amazing and quite frankly will look good to the rest of the footballing world looking in that you can't make your minds up.
there is a flaw in your posting and that assumes that gary bowyer is happy to sit in the background working for the clowns in town and the loons in pune. if i were gary bowyer - i would be saying to them "its the manager's job on decent wedge, or i am off" given his success at rovers in bringing young 'uns through for a number of years - i am absolutely certain other clubs (and premiership ones at that) would see the value of recruiting GB to their club. his stock has risen and continues to rise and alternative clubs offer more stability than at ewood/brockhall where there has even been rumours of disbanding the academy.
Big big difference between coaching kids and managing the first team. Especially if we are serious about trying to get back into the Prem before the parachute money runs out. Can't see GB getting us higher than where we finished last season.
Got to take that opinion with pinch of salt...."can't see GB getting us higher.........." Really? Perhaps you haven't seen GB's record when he was in charge.....p 13 w 6 d 4 l3 .....if GB had been in charge for the full season and replicated similar results then we might well be all making a trip to wembley this Monday. For god sake give the man some credit cos now't for sure with out his imput we'd be watching PNE next season!
I agree wholeheartedly with the appointment of Bowyer - but fear your snapshot statistical analysis is open to all sorts of critique. There simply are not enough matches to qualify it as a viable sample.
Wonder we're you conjured up the words "statistical analysis" from....let me think.....the hoofball general........"viab
le sample" tell that to Berg and Appleton!
[quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Iiii1111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CheltRover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gleechy[/bold] wrote: Gb is an interim manager and until people were worn down by inactivity at BRFC most fans were calling for an experienced manager as the only way forward. What has changed? Have you all been brainwashed into accepting another as recommended by Shebby? If GB takes the job, not only is he not acting in the best interest of BRFC, but we have lost what has been the best back up since Tony Parkes. Don't slate the owners for being naive when he is found wanting,the majority of well groomed fans on here are now supporting the appointment of GB, what's got into you? If GB takes the job you can't turn round ten games into the season and say what a stupid thing to do, employ another rookie. This is a very big risk move by the incompetent owners who have previously thrown good money into bad mistakes that instead would of secured a decent manager for the good of the club. They need a very good manager that can compete, to get us out of this with GB churning out good trainees, nothing short of that will do. How people who say they have been following football for X amount of years can agree with this cop out is amazing and quite frankly will look good to the rest of the footballing world looking in that you can't make your minds up.[/p][/quote]there is a flaw in your posting and that assumes that gary bowyer is happy to sit in the background working for the clowns in town and the loons in pune. if i were gary bowyer - i would be saying to them "its the manager's job on decent wedge, or i am off" given his success at rovers in bringing young 'uns through for a number of years - i am absolutely certain other clubs (and premiership ones at that) would see the value of recruiting GB to their club. his stock has risen and continues to rise and alternative clubs offer more stability than at ewood/brockhall where there has even been rumours of disbanding the academy.[/p][/quote]Big big difference between coaching kids and managing the first team. Especially if we are serious about trying to get back into the Prem before the parachute money runs out. Can't see GB getting us higher than where we finished last season.[/p][/quote]Got to take that opinion with pinch of salt...."can't see GB getting us higher.........." Really? Perhaps you haven't seen GB's record when he was in charge.....p 13 w 6 d 4 l3 .....if GB had been in charge for the full season and replicated similar results then we might well be all making a trip to wembley this Monday. For god sake give the man some credit cos now't for sure with out his imput we'd be watching PNE next season![/p][/quote]I agree wholeheartedly with the appointment of Bowyer - but fear your snapshot statistical analysis is open to all sorts of critique. There simply are not enough matches to qualify it as a viable sample.[/p][/quote]Wonder we're you conjured up the words "statistical analysis" from....let me think.....the hoofball general........"viab le sample" tell that to Berg and Appleton! Iiii1111
  • Score: 0

10:54pm Wed 22 May 13

Iiii1111 says...

CheltRover wrote:
Bazzer wrote:
Iiii1111 wrote:
CheltRover wrote:
hasslem hasslem wrote:
gleechy wrote: Gb is an interim manager and until people were worn down by inactivity at BRFC most fans were calling for an experienced manager as the only way forward. What has changed? Have you all been brainwashed into accepting another as recommended by Shebby? If GB takes the job, not only is he not acting in the best interest of BRFC, but we have lost what has been the best back up since Tony Parkes. Don't slate the owners for being naive when he is found wanting,the majority of well groomed fans on here are now supporting the appointment of GB, what's got into you? If GB takes the job you can't turn round ten games into the season and say what a stupid thing to do, employ another rookie. This is a very big risk move by the incompetent owners who have previously thrown good money into bad mistakes that instead would of secured a decent manager for the good of the club. They need a very good manager that can compete, to get us out of this with GB churning out good trainees, nothing short of that will do. How people who say they have been following football for X amount of years can agree with this cop out is amazing and quite frankly will look good to the rest of the footballing world looking in that you can't make your minds up.
there is a flaw in your posting and that assumes that gary bowyer is happy to sit in the background working for the clowns in town and the loons in pune. if i were gary bowyer - i would be saying to them "its the manager's job on decent wedge, or i am off" given his success at rovers in bringing young 'uns through for a number of years - i am absolutely certain other clubs (and premiership ones at that) would see the value of recruiting GB to their club. his stock has risen and continues to rise and alternative clubs offer more stability than at ewood/brockhall where there has even been rumours of disbanding the academy.
Big big difference between coaching kids and managing the first team. Especially if we are serious about trying to get back into the Prem before the parachute money runs out. Can't see GB getting us higher than where we finished last season.
Got to take that opinion with pinch of salt...."can't see GB getting us higher.........." Really? Perhaps you haven't seen GB's record when he was in charge.....p 13 w 6 d 4 l3 .....if GB had been in charge for the full season and replicated similar results then we might well be all making a trip to wembley this Monday. For god sake give the man some credit cos now't for sure with out his imput we'd be watching PNE next season!
I agree wholeheartedly with the appointment of Bowyer - but fear your snapshot statistical analysis is open to all sorts of critique. There simply are not enough matches to qualify it as a viable sample.
Absolutely. Only a fool would extrapolate 13 games to 46 Nd start talking about promotion. 13 games. That's the sum total of his management experience. You also neglect to analyse those 13 games fully. We were totally outclassed in a lot of them. Not what I aspire to. You may be more easily pleased
Glass half empty.....looks like we're
down next season before a balls been kicked!
[quote][p][bold]CheltRover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Iiii1111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CheltRover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gleechy[/bold] wrote: Gb is an interim manager and until people were worn down by inactivity at BRFC most fans were calling for an experienced manager as the only way forward. What has changed? Have you all been brainwashed into accepting another as recommended by Shebby? If GB takes the job, not only is he not acting in the best interest of BRFC, but we have lost what has been the best back up since Tony Parkes. Don't slate the owners for being naive when he is found wanting,the majority of well groomed fans on here are now supporting the appointment of GB, what's got into you? If GB takes the job you can't turn round ten games into the season and say what a stupid thing to do, employ another rookie. This is a very big risk move by the incompetent owners who have previously thrown good money into bad mistakes that instead would of secured a decent manager for the good of the club. They need a very good manager that can compete, to get us out of this with GB churning out good trainees, nothing short of that will do. How people who say they have been following football for X amount of years can agree with this cop out is amazing and quite frankly will look good to the rest of the footballing world looking in that you can't make your minds up.[/p][/quote]there is a flaw in your posting and that assumes that gary bowyer is happy to sit in the background working for the clowns in town and the loons in pune. if i were gary bowyer - i would be saying to them "its the manager's job on decent wedge, or i am off" given his success at rovers in bringing young 'uns through for a number of years - i am absolutely certain other clubs (and premiership ones at that) would see the value of recruiting GB to their club. his stock has risen and continues to rise and alternative clubs offer more stability than at ewood/brockhall where there has even been rumours of disbanding the academy.[/p][/quote]Big big difference between coaching kids and managing the first team. Especially if we are serious about trying to get back into the Prem before the parachute money runs out. Can't see GB getting us higher than where we finished last season.[/p][/quote]Got to take that opinion with pinch of salt...."can't see GB getting us higher.........." Really? Perhaps you haven't seen GB's record when he was in charge.....p 13 w 6 d 4 l3 .....if GB had been in charge for the full season and replicated similar results then we might well be all making a trip to wembley this Monday. For god sake give the man some credit cos now't for sure with out his imput we'd be watching PNE next season![/p][/quote]I agree wholeheartedly with the appointment of Bowyer - but fear your snapshot statistical analysis is open to all sorts of critique. There simply are not enough matches to qualify it as a viable sample.[/p][/quote]Absolutely. Only a fool would extrapolate 13 games to 46 Nd start talking about promotion. 13 games. That's the sum total of his management experience. You also neglect to analyse those 13 games fully. We were totally outclassed in a lot of them. Not what I aspire to. You may be more easily pleased[/p][/quote]Glass half empty.....looks like we're down next season before a balls been kicked! Iiii1111
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11:32pm Wed 22 May 13

BRFC75 says...

Lucky old Hendry , when Kean brought in Hendry to be his driver under the guise of "defensive coach" little could we imagine that when Hendry was eventually found out as a rubbish defensive coach ,due to his endlessly blankly staring into space whan things were going wrong on the park, ,he got demoted to assistant coach to the reserves , then luckily for him some months later Hendry would end up with the most secure job at Rovers which is "reserve team manager" , I`ll make a prophecy that in 12 months most of the coaching staff will not be around except the humble "uriah heap" Hendry.
Lucky old Hendry , when Kean brought in Hendry to be his driver under the guise of "defensive coach" little could we imagine that when Hendry was eventually found out as a rubbish defensive coach ,due to his endlessly blankly staring into space whan things were going wrong on the park, ,he got demoted to assistant coach to the reserves , then luckily for him some months later Hendry would end up with the most secure job at Rovers which is "reserve team manager" , I`ll make a prophecy that in 12 months most of the coaching staff will not be around except the humble "uriah heap" Hendry. BRFC75
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11:33pm Wed 22 May 13

earwego says...

dangerous dave wrote:
earwego wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
French Rover wrote:
Good Luck GB....you fully deserve a crack at the job - nice to see someone appointed who has the support of all (or most) of all the Rovers fans...
afraid you are well wide of the mark with your comments - GB just ' Kean 2' another cheap option - you'd think they would learn by their past experiences but not these clowns!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM
Another constructive comment from the prophet of doom
Dont need a prophet for this one - just the simple truth - another manager on the cheap
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH VENKYS HENDRY COAR
How much are they paying GB? How do you know he comes cheap? Could it be that the delay is that GB is making demands that there should not be any interference from Shebby with the team?
To condemn someone without actually knowing how he will perform is childish. Come on ,who would you bring in as manager? Will you guarantee he will be better than GB? Did Rednap with his wealth of experience save QPR? How many on here wanted Rednap. GB might just surprise us,I for one are willing to at least give him a fair crack.Can't be any worse than what we have had.
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]earwego[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: Good Luck GB....you fully deserve a crack at the job - nice to see someone appointed who has the support of all (or most) of all the Rovers fans...[/p][/quote]afraid you are well wide of the mark with your comments - GB just ' Kean 2' another cheap option - you'd think they would learn by their past experiences but not these clowns!!!!!!!!!!!!! OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM[/p][/quote]Another constructive comment from the prophet of doom[/p][/quote]Dont need a prophet for this one - just the simple truth - another manager on the cheap OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH VENKYS HENDRY COAR[/p][/quote]How much are they paying GB? How do you know he comes cheap? Could it be that the delay is that GB is making demands that there should not be any interference from Shebby with the team? To condemn someone without actually knowing how he will perform is childish. Come on ,who would you bring in as manager? Will you guarantee he will be better than GB? Did Rednap with his wealth of experience save QPR? How many on here wanted Rednap. GB might just surprise us,I for one are willing to at least give him a fair crack.Can't be any worse than what we have had. earwego
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12:45am Thu 23 May 13

35yearSurrenderMonkeys says...

BRFC75 wrote:
Lucky old Hendry , when Kean brought in Hendry to be his driver under the guise of "defensive coach" little could we imagine that when Hendry was eventually found out as a rubbish defensive coach ,due to his endlessly blankly staring into space whan things were going wrong on the park, ,he got demoted to assistant coach to the reserves , then luckily for him some months later Hendry would end up with the most secure job at Rovers which is "reserve team manager" , I`ll make a prophecy that in 12 months most of the coaching staff will not be around except the humble "uriah heap" Hendry.
Not obssessed enough
[quote][p][bold]BRFC75[/bold] wrote: Lucky old Hendry , when Kean brought in Hendry to be his driver under the guise of "defensive coach" little could we imagine that when Hendry was eventually found out as a rubbish defensive coach ,due to his endlessly blankly staring into space whan things were going wrong on the park, ,he got demoted to assistant coach to the reserves , then luckily for him some months later Hendry would end up with the most secure job at Rovers which is "reserve team manager" , I`ll make a prophecy that in 12 months most of the coaching staff will not be around except the humble "uriah heap" Hendry.[/p][/quote]Not obssessed enough 35yearSurrenderMonkeys
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12:52am Thu 23 May 13

BRFC75 says...

35yearSurrenderMonke
ys
wrote:
BRFC75 wrote:
Lucky old Hendry , when Kean brought in Hendry to be his driver under the guise of "defensive coach" little could we imagine that when Hendry was eventually found out as a rubbish defensive coach ,due to his endlessly blankly staring into space whan things were going wrong on the park, ,he got demoted to assistant coach to the reserves , then luckily for him some months later Hendry would end up with the most secure job at Rovers which is "reserve team manager" , I`ll make a prophecy that in 12 months most of the coaching staff will not be around except the humble "uriah heap" Hendry.
Not obssessed enough
35 YSM / your sisters in bed waiting for you.
[quote][p][bold]35yearSurrenderMonke ys[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BRFC75[/bold] wrote: Lucky old Hendry , when Kean brought in Hendry to be his driver under the guise of "defensive coach" little could we imagine that when Hendry was eventually found out as a rubbish defensive coach ,due to his endlessly blankly staring into space whan things were going wrong on the park, ,he got demoted to assistant coach to the reserves , then luckily for him some months later Hendry would end up with the most secure job at Rovers which is "reserve team manager" , I`ll make a prophecy that in 12 months most of the coaching staff will not be around except the humble "uriah heap" Hendry.[/p][/quote]Not obssessed enough[/p][/quote]35 YSM / your sisters in bed waiting for you. BRFC75
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5:52am Thu 23 May 13

whappen says...

hasslem hasslem wrote:
inflightmagazine wrote:
jack01 wrote: Stop treating us like fools. It's quite clear that Bowyer was appointed manager as far back as his trip to India in April. For some reason they think they are being clever in not officially announcing it yet, even though the only outcome of Bowyers trip to India would have been for Desai to hand him the job. Quite why we have to wait for this deal to be completed before announcing season ticket details I don't understand. I wouldn't have thought it would make any difference to potential season ticket buyers whether the manager is Bowyer or Sherwood. Most other Championship clubs were selling season tickets in March. We are soon to be in June and haven't even announced prices. Goes to show how much they want to sell tickets. They are simply not interested. The same applies to the new kit - one of the few clubs who haven't unveiled it yet. Presumably we will have another sponsor fiasco whereby we don't secure a sponsor, put merchandise on sale without sponsors on and then have to start sticking things on later in the season. A complete and utter joke. It seems the general reasoning behind supporting Bowyers appointment consists of three points: 1) he has a decent record as caretaker 2) he's a nice guy 3) we won't or can't do any better The sensible response to the above would be as follows: 1) many many many caretaker managers have had records similar to or better than Bowyers. It is very rare that they go on to be successful full time managers. Infact, I'm struggling to remember the last time it happened 2) The critical rule in football when appointing a manager is it doesn't matter one jot whether somebody is a nice guy or not. It has absolutely nothing to do with somebody's managerial capabilities or his prospects for success, and shouldn't ever play a role in determining an appointment. That is called letting your heart rule your head. Too many people would like Bowyer to get the job because 'he deserves a chance' or because 'he's a decent bloke', rather than sitting back and thinking about what is best for the club. 3) the suggestion we can't do any better than Bowyer is again, a myth. For some reason the decision makers at the club repeatedly refuse to appoint anyone with a track record in management. That doesn't mean we should accept that or be happy with it. There are dozens of out of work and lower league managers who would jump at the chance to manage what is a big Championship club with the biggest financial outlay outside the top flight and the best facilities.
Not really sure I can agree with you hear Jack. 1) Managers have to start somewhere letting managers take a dip in as caretakers is probably less risky that appointing someone who is just an ex-player who might just make it Malky Mckay started as caretaker at Watford and just got Cardiff Promoted. 2) I do nt think peole are backing Gary because he is a nice bloke, what I saw was that he had an ability to manage the players and seemed to be able to get the best out of them, there are different sytles of management in football just like at work , i personnally prefer to work with the type of manager taht spends a bit of time understanding me and gets me working as part of a team rather than rips my head off every two minutes. 3) Who are these managers people want I gaurentee you could put any name on this forum and someone will have a reason why not to appoint them ? the perfect manager does not exsist and I personnaly would rather see someone who knows the real heart of this club at the helm . Just opinions of mine and I am sure not everyone will agree but that the beauty of football
inflight - as usual your comments well thought out. i too am intrigued by who these mystery managers are that are out of work that would really add to the mix at ewood? gary megson? - don't make me laugh gary mcallister? - old scrote colin w.anker? would walk out after 5 minutes with shabby david o dreary? - really martin o'neil - would want £millions and would never work with the loons or the clowns souness - loves his telly, would walk out cos of owners and board pulis - if he left a stable club like stoke - he is not the guy for rovers. mclaren - most fans would reject him mcleish - personally i would be happy with him - but couldn't see him with the owners dickov - new doni manager? keane - will fall out with himself given half the chance - what chance venkys and singh coyle - jerome anderso keegan - would hate owners di matteo - wants bigger and better grant - really? curbishley - last time he managed the date was in roman numerals jackett - couldn't hack it at millwall, what chance rovers?
Why all out of work managers? Does nobody poach other club's managers any more?

Why not have a look at men in jobs who may, just may, fancy a different "challenge". And let's face it, this would be a massive one.

The power of the pound sign should not be underestimated, assuming Venkys are still willing to cough up the money following the (very expensive) farce with Berg.... not to mention Kean and Appleton.

Problem is, would Shaw or Singh be able to sell the club to anyone? The farcical goings on have been aired in public for long enough for everyone and anyone to know things are not quite, how shall we say, "normal" at BRFC.

Good luck to GB- and he will need a lot of it - who I hope proves to be an inspired choice . However, like I've said before, he was nailed on to get the job simply because he was already in situ, had won a few games and is relatively cheap; his appointment is born out of convenience rather than inspiration.

BTW If Bowyer's coaches are stepping up with him, what's happening to the youth teams? They probably haven't thought that far ahead; it is, after all, only f@cking obvious. That said, Venkys and their merry men don't do f@cking obvious. Hendry's already there though so what are the odds?
[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inflightmagazine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jack01[/bold] wrote: Stop treating us like fools. It's quite clear that Bowyer was appointed manager as far back as his trip to India in April. For some reason they think they are being clever in not officially announcing it yet, even though the only outcome of Bowyers trip to India would have been for Desai to hand him the job. Quite why we have to wait for this deal to be completed before announcing season ticket details I don't understand. I wouldn't have thought it would make any difference to potential season ticket buyers whether the manager is Bowyer or Sherwood. Most other Championship clubs were selling season tickets in March. We are soon to be in June and haven't even announced prices. Goes to show how much they want to sell tickets. They are simply not interested. The same applies to the new kit - one of the few clubs who haven't unveiled it yet. Presumably we will have another sponsor fiasco whereby we don't secure a sponsor, put merchandise on sale without sponsors on and then have to start sticking things on later in the season. A complete and utter joke. It seems the general reasoning behind supporting Bowyers appointment consists of three points: 1) he has a decent record as caretaker 2) he's a nice guy 3) we won't or can't do any better The sensible response to the above would be as follows: 1) many many many caretaker managers have had records similar to or better than Bowyers. It is very rare that they go on to be successful full time managers. Infact, I'm struggling to remember the last time it happened 2) The critical rule in football when appointing a manager is it doesn't matter one jot whether somebody is a nice guy or not. It has absolutely nothing to do with somebody's managerial capabilities or his prospects for success, and shouldn't ever play a role in determining an appointment. That is called letting your heart rule your head. Too many people would like Bowyer to get the job because 'he deserves a chance' or because 'he's a decent bloke', rather than sitting back and thinking about what is best for the club. 3) the suggestion we can't do any better than Bowyer is again, a myth. For some reason the decision makers at the club repeatedly refuse to appoint anyone with a track record in management. That doesn't mean we should accept that or be happy with it. There are dozens of out of work and lower league managers who would jump at the chance to manage what is a big Championship club with the biggest financial outlay outside the top flight and the best facilities.[/p][/quote]Not really sure I can agree with you hear Jack. 1) Managers have to start somewhere letting managers take a dip in as caretakers is probably less risky that appointing someone who is just an ex-player who might just make it Malky Mckay started as caretaker at Watford and just got Cardiff Promoted. 2) I do nt think peole are backing Gary because he is a nice bloke, what I saw was that he had an ability to manage the players and seemed to be able to get the best out of them, there are different sytles of management in football just like at work , i personnally prefer to work with the type of manager taht spends a bit of time understanding me and gets me working as part of a team rather than rips my head off every two minutes. 3) Who are these managers people want I gaurentee you could put any name on this forum and someone will have a reason why not to appoint them ? the perfect manager does not exsist and I personnaly would rather see someone who knows the real heart of this club at the helm . Just opinions of mine and I am sure not everyone will agree but that the beauty of football[/p][/quote]inflight - as usual your comments well thought out. i too am intrigued by who these mystery managers are that are out of work that would really add to the mix at ewood? gary megson? - don't make me laugh gary mcallister? - old scrote colin w.anker? would walk out after 5 minutes with shabby david o dreary? - really martin o'neil - would want £millions and would never work with the loons or the clowns souness - loves his telly, would walk out cos of owners and board pulis - if he left a stable club like stoke - he is not the guy for rovers. mclaren - most fans would reject him mcleish - personally i would be happy with him - but couldn't see him with the owners dickov - new doni manager? keane - will fall out with himself given half the chance - what chance venkys and singh coyle - jerome anderso keegan - would hate owners di matteo - wants bigger and better grant - really? curbishley - last time he managed the date was in roman numerals jackett - couldn't hack it at millwall, what chance rovers?[/p][/quote]Why all out of work managers? Does nobody poach other club's managers any more? Why not have a look at men in jobs who may, just may, fancy a different "challenge". And let's face it, this would be a massive one. The power of the pound sign should not be underestimated, assuming Venkys are still willing to cough up the money following the (very expensive) farce with Berg.... not to mention Kean and Appleton. Problem is, would Shaw or Singh be able to sell the club to anyone? The farcical goings on have been aired in public for long enough for everyone and anyone to know things are not quite, how shall we say, "normal" at BRFC. Good luck to GB- and he will need a lot of it - who I hope proves to be an inspired choice . However, like I've said before, he was nailed on to get the job simply because he was already in situ, had won a few games and is relatively cheap; his appointment is born out of convenience rather than inspiration. BTW If Bowyer's coaches are stepping up with him, what's happening to the youth teams? They probably haven't thought that far ahead; it is, after all, only f@cking obvious. That said, Venkys and their merry men don't do f@cking obvious. Hendry's already there though so what are the odds? whappen
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6:51am Thu 23 May 13

hasslem hasslem says...

i do agree about poaching - and i know that generically all management in football is a risky business - but who, in their right mind, would jump ship from a club and join the madhouse down at ewood.

yes the allure of mullah and getting paid for 1-2years contract for 2-3 months work will have a certain appeal to some money grabbers - but for an "in work" manager putting rovers on your cv is not going to improve your image.

and inevitably if we do poach it will inevitably be from a "lesser" club and some of the clown supporters will never accept it as good enough.
i do agree about poaching - and i know that generically all management in football is a risky business - but who, in their right mind, would jump ship from a club and join the madhouse down at ewood. yes the allure of mullah and getting paid for 1-2years contract for 2-3 months work will have a certain appeal to some money grabbers - but for an "in work" manager putting rovers on your cv is not going to improve your image. and inevitably if we do poach it will inevitably be from a "lesser" club and some of the clown supporters will never accept it as good enough. hasslem hasslem
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8:48am Thu 23 May 13

French Rover says...

hasslem hasslem wrote:
i do agree about poaching - and i know that generically all management in football is a risky business - but who, in their right mind, would jump ship from a club and join the madhouse down at ewood.

yes the allure of mullah and getting paid for 1-2years contract for 2-3 months work will have a certain appeal to some money grabbers - but for an "in work" manager putting rovers on your cv is not going to improve your image.

and inevitably if we do poach it will inevitably be from a "lesser" club and some of the clown supporters will never accept it as good enough.
Al la Appleton....classic and very recent case of poaching gone wrong!
[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: i do agree about poaching - and i know that generically all management in football is a risky business - but who, in their right mind, would jump ship from a club and join the madhouse down at ewood. yes the allure of mullah and getting paid for 1-2years contract for 2-3 months work will have a certain appeal to some money grabbers - but for an "in work" manager putting rovers on your cv is not going to improve your image. and inevitably if we do poach it will inevitably be from a "lesser" club and some of the clown supporters will never accept it as good enough.[/p][/quote]Al la Appleton....classic and very recent case of poaching gone wrong! French Rover
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9:58am Thu 23 May 13

35yearSurrenderMonkeys says...

BRFC75 wrote:
35yearSurrenderMonke

ys
wrote:
BRFC75 wrote:
Lucky old Hendry , when Kean brought in Hendry to be his driver under the guise of "defensive coach" little could we imagine that when Hendry was eventually found out as a rubbish defensive coach ,due to his endlessly blankly staring into space whan things were going wrong on the park, ,he got demoted to assistant coach to the reserves , then luckily for him some months later Hendry would end up with the most secure job at Rovers which is "reserve team manager" , I`ll make a prophecy that in 12 months most of the coaching staff will not be around except the humble "uriah heap" Hendry.
Not obssessed enough
35 YSM / your sisters in bed waiting for you.
Another infantile offering from the obsessed one.
PS I am a girl bright lad, and I don't have any sisters.
You need to chill and stop spurting made up rubbish. Even on the run in when Bowyer lost you said it was Hendrys fault and when Bowyer won, you said he had nothing to do with the first team. As Hughie Greene used to say on Opportunity Knocks, Its Make Your Mind Up Time.
You are that dazed and confused you are stabbing him in the front.
[quote][p][bold]BRFC75[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]35yearSurrenderMonke ys[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BRFC75[/bold] wrote: Lucky old Hendry , when Kean brought in Hendry to be his driver under the guise of "defensive coach" little could we imagine that when Hendry was eventually found out as a rubbish defensive coach ,due to his endlessly blankly staring into space whan things were going wrong on the park, ,he got demoted to assistant coach to the reserves , then luckily for him some months later Hendry would end up with the most secure job at Rovers which is "reserve team manager" , I`ll make a prophecy that in 12 months most of the coaching staff will not be around except the humble "uriah heap" Hendry.[/p][/quote]Not obssessed enough[/p][/quote]35 YSM / your sisters in bed waiting for you.[/p][/quote]Another infantile offering from the obsessed one. PS I am a girl bright lad, and I don't have any sisters. You need to chill and stop spurting made up rubbish. Even on the run in when Bowyer lost you said it was Hendrys fault and when Bowyer won, you said he had nothing to do with the first team. As Hughie Greene used to say on Opportunity Knocks, Its Make Your Mind Up Time. You are that dazed and confused you are stabbing him in the front. 35yearSurrenderMonkeys
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10:41pm Thu 23 May 13

Shane says...

srvp28 wrote:
Shane wrote:
hasslem hasslem wrote:
French Rover wrote:
Good Luck GB....you fully deserve a crack at the job - nice to see someone appointed who has the support of all (or most) of all the Rovers fans...
agree with this sentiment - IF IT HAPPENS

but as for the previous thread and linking it to this one.

FR - the headline on this article says appointed, the first para says "ready to unveil" the second para reads "waiting for the green light from owners"

now far be it from me but the LT posted this at 9.48 this morning and presumably it was on the back pages before this.........BUT it is now gone 1500hrs and there is:
1) nothing on rovers official website
2) nowt on bbc website
3) nothing on the sky sports news website
4) nothing on talkspurs website
5) nothing on newsnow
.......so maybe i didn't pontificate too soon.

i really really hope it gets confirmed later today - but isn't this a perfect example how common sense does not prevail.

we all know that on relegation steve kean was sacked - everybody knew - and then cruella intervened on some spurious logic that because fester has a nice missus that he deserved a second (second - that's a joke) chance - - that is the sort of common sense we are dealing with here.

with rovers i would under its current stewardship i would not believe anything until it was signed, sealed and delivered and stood right in front of me with the documentary proof.....call me a cynic - but these bunch of idiots would not recognise common sense if they fell over it.
There's also been::
*Nothing on the BBC 6 - o clock news
*Nothing on the BBC Work\ld Service
*Nothing from 10 Downing Street
*Nothing from the Palace
*Nothing from the Vatican

You've still got delusions of granduer. You're in the Chumpionship numb nuts. NO ONE CARES ABOUT WOVERS.

Now get your hand off it
You obviously do, numb nuts, or you wouldn't be obsessed with Rovers stories.
No just come on here when I need a laugh. Keep it up and keep feeding the chickens. You're all doing very well
[quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shane[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: Good Luck GB....you fully deserve a crack at the job - nice to see someone appointed who has the support of all (or most) of all the Rovers fans...[/p][/quote]agree with this sentiment - IF IT HAPPENS but as for the previous thread and linking it to this one. FR - the headline on this article says appointed, the first para says "ready to unveil" the second para reads "waiting for the green light from owners" now far be it from me but the LT posted this at 9.48 this morning and presumably it was on the back pages before this.........BUT it is now gone 1500hrs and there is: 1) nothing on rovers official website 2) nowt on bbc website 3) nothing on the sky sports news website 4) nothing on talkspurs website 5) nothing on newsnow .......so maybe i didn't pontificate too soon. i really really hope it gets confirmed later today - but isn't this a perfect example how common sense does not prevail. we all know that on relegation steve kean was sacked - everybody knew - and then cruella intervened on some spurious logic that because fester has a nice missus that he deserved a second (second - that's a joke) chance - - that is the sort of common sense we are dealing with here. with rovers i would under its current stewardship i would not believe anything until it was signed, sealed and delivered and stood right in front of me with the documentary proof.....call me a cynic - but these bunch of idiots would not recognise common sense if they fell over it.[/p][/quote]There's also been:: *Nothing on the BBC 6 - o clock news *Nothing on the BBC Work\ld Service *Nothing from 10 Downing Street *Nothing from the Palace *Nothing from the Vatican You've still got delusions of granduer. You're in the Chumpionship numb nuts. NO ONE CARES ABOUT WOVERS. Now get your hand off it[/p][/quote]You obviously do, numb nuts, or you wouldn't be obsessed with Rovers stories.[/p][/quote]No just come on here when I need a laugh. Keep it up and keep feeding the chickens. You're all doing very well Shane
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10:45pm Thu 23 May 13

Shane says...

hasslem hasslem wrote:
Shane wrote:
hasslem hasslem wrote:
French Rover wrote:
Good Luck GB....you fully deserve a crack at the job - nice to see someone appointed who has the support of all (or most) of all the Rovers fans...
agree with this sentiment - IF IT HAPPENS

but as for the previous thread and linking it to this one.

FR - the headline on this article says appointed, the first para says "ready to unveil" the second para reads "waiting for the green light from owners"

now far be it from me but the LT posted this at 9.48 this morning and presumably it was on the back pages before this.........BUT it is now gone 1500hrs and there is:
1) nothing on rovers official website
2) nowt on bbc website
3) nothing on the sky sports news website
4) nothing on talkspurs website
5) nothing on newsnow
.......so maybe i didn't pontificate too soon.

i really really hope it gets confirmed later today - but isn't this a perfect example how common sense does not prevail.

we all know that on relegation steve kean was sacked - everybody knew - and then cruella intervened on some spurious logic that because fester has a nice missus that he deserved a second (second - that's a joke) chance - - that is the sort of common sense we are dealing with here.

with rovers i would under its current stewardship i would not believe anything until it was signed, sealed and delivered and stood right in front of me with the documentary proof.....call me a cynic - but these bunch of idiots would not recognise common sense if they fell over it.
There's also been::
*Nothing on the BBC 6 - o clock news
*Nothing on the BBC Work\ld Service
*Nothing from 10 Downing Street
*Nothing from the Palace
*Nothing from the Vatican

You've still got delusions of granduer. You're in the Chumpionship numb nuts. NO ONE CARES ABOUT WOVERS.

Now get your hand off it
oh do shut up you united prat
ha ha. BTW we still consider Rovers as the biggest game of the year. Doh forgot, silly me.
[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shane[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: Good Luck GB....you fully deserve a crack at the job - nice to see someone appointed who has the support of all (or most) of all the Rovers fans...[/p][/quote]agree with this sentiment - IF IT HAPPENS but as for the previous thread and linking it to this one. FR - the headline on this article says appointed, the first para says "ready to unveil" the second para reads "waiting for the green light from owners" now far be it from me but the LT posted this at 9.48 this morning and presumably it was on the back pages before this.........BUT it is now gone 1500hrs and there is: 1) nothing on rovers official website 2) nowt on bbc website 3) nothing on the sky sports news website 4) nothing on talkspurs website 5) nothing on newsnow .......so maybe i didn't pontificate too soon. i really really hope it gets confirmed later today - but isn't this a perfect example how common sense does not prevail. we all know that on relegation steve kean was sacked - everybody knew - and then cruella intervened on some spurious logic that because fester has a nice missus that he deserved a second (second - that's a joke) chance - - that is the sort of common sense we are dealing with here. with rovers i would under its current stewardship i would not believe anything until it was signed, sealed and delivered and stood right in front of me with the documentary proof.....call me a cynic - but these bunch of idiots would not recognise common sense if they fell over it.[/p][/quote]There's also been:: *Nothing on the BBC 6 - o clock news *Nothing on the BBC Work\ld Service *Nothing from 10 Downing Street *Nothing from the Palace *Nothing from the Vatican You've still got delusions of granduer. You're in the Chumpionship numb nuts. NO ONE CARES ABOUT WOVERS. Now get your hand off it[/p][/quote]oh do shut up you united prat[/p][/quote]ha ha. BTW we still consider Rovers as the biggest game of the year. Doh forgot, silly me. Shane
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1:10am Fri 24 May 13

stupidisasstupiddoes says...

It could quite possibly be that GB is the only person left at our club the players trust and respect so hence the appointment,if the players trust him so should we. He's a realist and to the point and if he gets what he wants with regards to players I think we'll be a force to be reckoned with. Good luck GB and come on Rovers "With skill and hard work"
It could quite possibly be that GB is the only person left at our club the players trust and respect so hence the appointment,if the players trust him so should we. He's a realist and to the point and if he gets what he wants with regards to players I think we'll be a force to be reckoned with. Good luck GB and come on Rovers "With skill and hard work" stupidisasstupiddoes
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2:36pm Fri 24 May 13

GlassHalfFull says...

The moment for comment on this article may have passed but, although I'm a Rovers' season-ticket holder, I am VERY concerned that we have now decided that we are appointing a manager who has NEVER managed any club at any level. I agree with all the fans wishing Gary well, and I genuinely hope that my misgivings are misplaced but it's a massive risk when we needed some stability and experience. Wishful thinking management again, hope I'm wrong.....
The moment for comment on this article may have passed but, although I'm a Rovers' season-ticket holder, I am VERY concerned that we have now decided that we are appointing a manager who has NEVER managed any club at any level. I agree with all the fans wishing Gary well, and I genuinely hope that my misgivings are misplaced but it's a massive risk when we needed some stability and experience. Wishful thinking management again, hope I'm wrong..... GlassHalfFull
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2:40pm Fri 24 May 13

dean555 says...

Has anyone stopped to think it might be bowyer holding things up not venkys?
Has anyone stopped to think it might be bowyer holding things up not venkys? dean555
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3:43pm Fri 24 May 13

Angry From Accrington says...

Why have the LET not removed this misleading, inaccurate and embarrassing article? Personally, If this delay means that the owners are actually considering all their options rather than rushing to act on the rather dubious advice of Shebby the Snake and Shabby Shaw, it might not be such a bad thing.
Why have the LET not removed this misleading, inaccurate and embarrassing article? Personally, If this delay means that the owners are actually considering all their options rather than rushing to act on the rather dubious advice of Shebby the Snake and Shabby Shaw, it might not be such a bad thing. Angry From Accrington
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6:23pm Fri 24 May 13

padlebrfc says...

dean555 wrote:
Has anyone stopped to think it might be bowyer holding things up not venkys?
How dare you use logic.

Skybet have stopped taking bets on the next Rovers manager.
[quote][p][bold]dean555[/bold] wrote: Has anyone stopped to think it might be bowyer holding things up not venkys?[/p][/quote]How dare you use logic. Skybet have stopped taking bets on the next Rovers manager. padlebrfc
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