Henning Berg's £2million claim against Blackburn Rovers

5:25pm Thursday 21st March 2013 in Football

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BLACKBURN Rovers have been plunged deeper into crisis with the prospect of a High Court order to pay up former manager Henning Berg.

The Norwegian, who managed the club he twice served as a player in the 1990s and early 2000s, was sacked on December 27 but is still thought to be owed in the region of £2million.

The club has since sacked his successor, Michael Appleton, who became their third managerial casualty this season on Tuesday, after just 67 days in charge – 10 days longer than Berg.

To compound their most recent dilemma, Rovers face a summary judgement in the High Court next Thursday over an alleged breach of contract.

Berg is hopeful of avoiding a full hearing. A judge will permit a summary judgement short-cut if Rovers’ defence is deemed to be bound to fail.

The League Managers Association is pursuing the case for the Norwegian. The Ewood Park outfit, who have the option of an out-of-court settlement to avoid a one-day hearing, have already come under fire from Richard Bevan, chief executive of the LMA, for their handling of Appleton’s dismissal.

Of the discrepancy over Berg’s outstanding payment, Bevan said: “Blackburn will feel the force of the law in the High Court next week.”

Meanwhile, midfielder Danny Murphy has been handed a Rovers lifeline following Appleton’s sacking.

Appleton, who was dismissed on Tuesday, had made Murphy an outcast during his tenure – forcing the former Liverpool, Fulham and England enforcer to train away from the first team squad.

Murphy was officially stripped of the captaincy earlier this month, and is understood to have even been sent to train with the youth team on occasion.

But after being handed the caretaker reins for the second time this season, Gary Bowyer made one of his first jobs to reinstate Murphy back into the first team fold yesterday.

Bowyer saw the 36-year-old as an ally during his last temporary spell in charge, saying previously: “Since myself and Terry (McPhillips) have come in and had to look after the team, Danny has been brilliant his support for us has been magnificent and we can’t praise him enough.

“The majority of the senior lads have been magnificent and he is one of those. We would be daft not to call on his experience and he has been great for us.”

Murphy did not enjoy a similar relationship with Appleton.

The writing was on the wall for the duo almost immediately for comments Murphy made in the aftermath of the former Portsmouth boss’s controversial switch from Blackpool to Blackburn.

Appleton’s appointment had been confirmed in the build-up to Rovers’ televised game with Wolves in January.

Bowyer, who had won the first three games of his first caretaker spell this season, signed off with a draw at Molineux.

When interviewed after the final whistle, and asked about Appleton’s arrival as boss, Murphy said: “I don’t know much about him.

“Today’s about giving credit to Gary for the job he’s done in the last four games – three wins and a good draw.”

It was understood that Murphy would never play for Rovers again under Appleton and the possibility of buying out his contract is believed to have been considered.

Ironically, given the Berg claim, Murphy’s recall has helped Rovers to avoid shelling out an estimated £2m as the midfielder is understood to command at least £35,000 a week in wages.

Comments (46)

5:35pm Thu 21 Mar 13

GAZHAY says...

This must be the only job in the world when you do a bad job they pay you to go. What a joke he shouldn't be paid anything as the trash he made us play was a nightmare to watch. If anything there should be a clause for the fans whom paid to watch this rubbish that we should be compensated!!!!!
This must be the only job in the world when you do a bad job they pay you to go. What a joke he shouldn't be paid anything as the trash he made us play was a nightmare to watch. If anything there should be a clause for the fans whom paid to watch this rubbish that we should be compensated!!!!! GAZHAY

5:37pm Thu 21 Mar 13

moh says...

In the last few games without Murphy the midfield has been even worst. Murphy's form has not been good but at least Murphy can string a few passes than the ones who have played.
In the last few games without Murphy the midfield has been even worst. Murphy's form has not been good but at least Murphy can string a few passes than the ones who have played. moh

6:07pm Thu 21 Mar 13

burnleyglentoran says...

William Hills are offering 10/1 that the next B*******ds manager wont make it to half time!!!

BRKFC - THE PANTOMIME THAT'S NOT JUST FOR CHRISTMAS
William Hills are offering 10/1 that the next B*******ds manager wont make it to half time!!! BRKFC - THE PANTOMIME THAT'S NOT JUST FOR CHRISTMAS burnleyglentoran

6:14pm Thu 21 Mar 13

passingfootball says...

it was obvious berg is another one of those mercenery mangers, he was lucky to land the job when no one else wanted him, considering his track record he was never going to acheive anything at rovers, he's just using rovers to line his own pockets he doesnt care about the financial future of rovers,
it was obvious berg is another one of those mercenery mangers, he was lucky to land the job when no one else wanted him, considering his track record he was never going to acheive anything at rovers, he's just using rovers to line his own pockets he doesnt care about the financial future of rovers, passingfootball

6:27pm Thu 21 Mar 13

1riversider says...

passingfootball wrote:
it was obvious berg is another one of those mercenery mangers, he was lucky to land the job when no one else wanted him, considering his track record he was never going to acheive anything at rovers, he's just using rovers to line his own pockets he doesnt care about the financial future of rovers,
Pathetic comment. Wouldn't you want was rightfully yours? He was treated shabbily by the club, so that Shaw could get his mate a job. Don't blame Berg one bit for his actions.

It is the Three Stooges who should now f*** off.

SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB NOW
[quote][p][bold]passingfootball[/bold] wrote: it was obvious berg is another one of those mercenery mangers, he was lucky to land the job when no one else wanted him, considering his track record he was never going to acheive anything at rovers, he's just using rovers to line his own pockets he doesnt care about the financial future of rovers,[/p][/quote]Pathetic comment. Wouldn't you want was rightfully yours? He was treated shabbily by the club, so that Shaw could get his mate a job. Don't blame Berg one bit for his actions. It is the Three Stooges who should now f*** off. SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB NOW 1riversider

6:32pm Thu 21 Mar 13

ste.g says...

if he had cared about the club like he said he did he wouldnt be doing this
if he had cared about the club like he said he did he wouldnt be doing this ste.g

7:03pm Thu 21 Mar 13

dangerous dave says...

Should sack Shaw agnew Singh Hendry and coar and let them fight for compensation worthless bunch
Out with the lot of them
Should sack Shaw agnew Singh Hendry and coar and let them fight for compensation worthless bunch Out with the lot of them dangerous dave

7:08pm Thu 21 Mar 13

whittleblue says...

"Ironically, given the Berg claim, Murphy’s recall has helped Rovers to avoid shelling out an estimated £2m as the midfielder is understood to command at least £35,000 a week in wages. "

Dont follow the logic in this as we are still going to be shelling the money out if he stops for the full term of his contract. A deal may have been done if he was leaving so he could work elsewhere and thus not costing rovers the full sum. In any event if things continue theres going to be nowt left to pay him anyway
"Ironically, given the Berg claim, Murphy’s recall has helped Rovers to avoid shelling out an estimated £2m as the midfielder is understood to command at least £35,000 a week in wages. " Dont follow the logic in this as we are still going to be shelling the money out if he stops for the full term of his contract. A deal may have been done if he was leaving so he could work elsewhere and thus not costing rovers the full sum. In any event if things continue theres going to be nowt left to pay him anyway whittleblue

7:23pm Thu 21 Mar 13

peely says...

"The day of reckoning is fast approaching , losing money at phenomenal rate,lack of TV revenue , gates falling thru the floor, unsustainable wages,
You don,t need to be a rocket scientist to do the sums ! Doomed I tell ya !
Sad sad times for all Rovers fans !
"The day of reckoning is fast approaching , losing money at phenomenal rate,lack of TV revenue , gates falling thru the floor, unsustainable wages, You don,t need to be a rocket scientist to do the sums ! Doomed I tell ya ! Sad sad times for all Rovers fans ! peely

7:23pm Thu 21 Mar 13

Gaz M says...

burnleyglentoran wrote:
William Hills are offering 10/1 that the next B*******ds manager wont make it to half time!!!

BRKFC - THE PANTOMIME THAT'S NOT JUST FOR CHRISTMAS
And you still could ,nt beat us jog on dingle!
[quote][p][bold]burnleyglentoran[/bold] wrote: William Hills are offering 10/1 that the next B*******ds manager wont make it to half time!!! BRKFC - THE PANTOMIME THAT'S NOT JUST FOR CHRISTMAS[/p][/quote]And you still could ,nt beat us jog on dingle! Gaz M

7:39pm Thu 21 Mar 13

icannotrace says...

dangerous dave wrote:
Should sack Shaw agnew Singh Hendry and coar and let them fight for compensation worthless bunch
Out with the lot of them
To all those for week who have been calling Dangerous Dave, and still do, he is actually right. Whilst these clowns are running the circus there is no hope.
.
As for Henning Berg I say good on him. These pathetic excuses for Ronald McDonald need to understand you can't ask someone to sign a contract, get rid of them part way though the contract and be not expected to pay. I hope Michael Appleton takes the same route.
.
I also actually feel sorry in some part for the Venkys. They came into this not knowing a thing about football and have been misinformed and ripped off by all these sheisters posing ask football experts. Venkys either sell up and cut your losses now or give you self a chance get rid of these deadlegs.
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: Should sack Shaw agnew Singh Hendry and coar and let them fight for compensation worthless bunch Out with the lot of them[/p][/quote]To all those for week who have been calling Dangerous Dave, and still do, he is actually right. Whilst these clowns are running the circus there is no hope. . As for Henning Berg I say good on him. These pathetic excuses for Ronald McDonald need to understand you can't ask someone to sign a contract, get rid of them part way though the contract and be not expected to pay. I hope Michael Appleton takes the same route. . I also actually feel sorry in some part for the Venkys. They came into this not knowing a thing about football and have been misinformed and ripped off by all these sheisters posing ask football experts. Venkys either sell up and cut your losses now or give you self a chance get rid of these deadlegs. icannotrace

7:39pm Thu 21 Mar 13

Wellsy11 says...

Everyday more ridicule, yet, again very little coming out of the club.
I dread to think what is next! But hey, murphy's back in the fold - yay!!! (Joke!)

You would think that now, with the latest chapter, with all the ex-pros, LMA etc.. All ridiculing us someone at the football league may do something, but they are clearly stiffs!! I wonder what the fans & fa would have done had this been Liverpool or United.

We are sinking.....fast....
..
Everyday more ridicule, yet, again very little coming out of the club. I dread to think what is next! But hey, murphy's back in the fold - yay!!! (Joke!) You would think that now, with the latest chapter, with all the ex-pros, LMA etc.. All ridiculing us someone at the football league may do something, but they are clearly stiffs!! I wonder what the fans & fa would have done had this been Liverpool or United. We are sinking.....fast.... .. Wellsy11

7:40pm Thu 21 Mar 13

Whydidtheybanme? says...

ste.g wrote:
if he had cared about the club like he said he did he wouldnt be doing this
Of course he doesn't "care" like a fan - this is his profession.

The bad guys in all this are the ones who appointed him in the first place. He should never have even made the short list!

Can't blame him for wanting to be compensated. No doubt he had to make some sacrifices with his family when he took the job.
[quote][p][bold]ste.g[/bold] wrote: if he had cared about the club like he said he did he wouldnt be doing this[/p][/quote]Of course he doesn't "care" like a fan - this is his profession. The bad guys in all this are the ones who appointed him in the first place. He should never have even made the short list! Can't blame him for wanting to be compensated. No doubt he had to make some sacrifices with his family when he took the job. Whydidtheybanme?

7:43pm Thu 21 Mar 13

icannotrace says...

passingfootball wrote:
it was obvious berg is another one of those mercenery mangers, he was lucky to land the job when no one else wanted him, considering his track record he was never going to acheive anything at rovers, he's just using rovers to line his own pockets he doesnt care about the financial future of rovers,
No one is going to achieve anything at Rovers mate whilst the current administration is in place.
.
I hope he gets everything he deserves and no he cares about his family and their future, don;t you?
[quote][p][bold]passingfootball[/bold] wrote: it was obvious berg is another one of those mercenery mangers, he was lucky to land the job when no one else wanted him, considering his track record he was never going to acheive anything at rovers, he's just using rovers to line his own pockets he doesnt care about the financial future of rovers,[/p][/quote]No one is going to achieve anything at Rovers mate whilst the current administration is in place. . I hope he gets everything he deserves and no he cares about his family and their future, don;t you? icannotrace

7:46pm Thu 21 Mar 13

Wellsy11 says...

icannotrace wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Should sack Shaw agnew Singh Hendry and coar and let them fight for compensation worthless bunch
Out with the lot of them
To all those for week who have been calling Dangerous Dave, and still do, he is actually right. Whilst these clowns are running the circus there is no hope.
.
As for Henning Berg I say good on him. These pathetic excuses for Ronald McDonald need to understand you can't ask someone to sign a contract, get rid of them part way though the contract and be not expected to pay. I hope Michael Appleton takes the same route.
.
I also actually feel sorry in some part for the Venkys. They came into this not knowing a thing about football and have been misinformed and ripped off by all these sheisters posing ask football experts. Venkys either sell up and cut your losses now or give you self a chance get rid of these deadlegs.
You cannot feel sorry for venkys!! R u nuts!!!
Keeping Kean for nearly two years???
Getting rid of a fantastic & stable board???
Ignoring our CEO despite his many letters to Pune and then SACKING him!!!
Appointing Shebbby Singh???
Promising to invest and then doing opposite?????

Get real, fella!!!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]icannotrace[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: Should sack Shaw agnew Singh Hendry and coar and let them fight for compensation worthless bunch Out with the lot of them[/p][/quote]To all those for week who have been calling Dangerous Dave, and still do, he is actually right. Whilst these clowns are running the circus there is no hope. . As for Henning Berg I say good on him. These pathetic excuses for Ronald McDonald need to understand you can't ask someone to sign a contract, get rid of them part way though the contract and be not expected to pay. I hope Michael Appleton takes the same route. . I also actually feel sorry in some part for the Venkys. They came into this not knowing a thing about football and have been misinformed and ripped off by all these sheisters posing ask football experts. Venkys either sell up and cut your losses now or give you self a chance get rid of these deadlegs.[/p][/quote]You cannot feel sorry for venkys!! R u nuts!!! Keeping Kean for nearly two years??? Getting rid of a fantastic & stable board??? Ignoring our CEO despite his many letters to Pune and then SACKING him!!! Appointing Shebbby Singh??? Promising to invest and then doing opposite????? Get real, fella!!!!!!!!!! Wellsy11

8:01pm Thu 21 Mar 13

merlinrabbit says...

burnleyglentoran wrote:
William Hills are offering 10/1 that the next B*******ds manager wont make it to half time!!!

BRKFC - THE PANTOMIME THAT'S NOT JUST FOR CHRISTMAS
The pantomime was on Sunday when David Dunn popped up and stole your desperately longed for win. "He's in front of you". Priceless
[quote][p][bold]burnleyglentoran[/bold] wrote: William Hills are offering 10/1 that the next B*******ds manager wont make it to half time!!! BRKFC - THE PANTOMIME THAT'S NOT JUST FOR CHRISTMAS[/p][/quote]The pantomime was on Sunday when David Dunn popped up and stole your desperately longed for win. "He's in front of you". Priceless merlinrabbit

8:06pm Thu 21 Mar 13

merlinrabbit says...

I dont blame Berg. He signed a contract with them. They need to learn that when they agree to something they have to honour it. Like all the things they promised when they bought the club and then reneged on it. Berg wasnt the right man but that is not his fault. It is Venkys for taking heed from a dimwit like Singh. Berg probably couldnt get a word in at the training ground with Shebby the snake behind him. I dont feel sorry for these managers - Kean, Berg, Appleton. They all knew the score, even if they didnt at the beginning they knew into their tenure. Kean refused to resign, Berg and Appleton knew before they came. Even so Venkys have to abide by the employment contract. They think they are above being accountable to any of us, fans, players, managers
I dont blame Berg. He signed a contract with them. They need to learn that when they agree to something they have to honour it. Like all the things they promised when they bought the club and then reneged on it. Berg wasnt the right man but that is not his fault. It is Venkys for taking heed from a dimwit like Singh. Berg probably couldnt get a word in at the training ground with Shebby the snake behind him. I dont feel sorry for these managers - Kean, Berg, Appleton. They all knew the score, even if they didnt at the beginning they knew into their tenure. Kean refused to resign, Berg and Appleton knew before they came. Even so Venkys have to abide by the employment contract. They think they are above being accountable to any of us, fans, players, managers merlinrabbit

8:12pm Thu 21 Mar 13

icannotrace says...

Wellsy11 wrote:
icannotrace wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Should sack Shaw agnew Singh Hendry and coar and let them fight for compensation worthless bunch
Out with the lot of them
To all those for week who have been calling Dangerous Dave, and still do, he is actually right. Whilst these clowns are running the circus there is no hope.
.
As for Henning Berg I say good on him. These pathetic excuses for Ronald McDonald need to understand you can't ask someone to sign a contract, get rid of them part way though the contract and be not expected to pay. I hope Michael Appleton takes the same route.
.
I also actually feel sorry in some part for the Venkys. They came into this not knowing a thing about football and have been misinformed and ripped off by all these sheisters posing ask football experts. Venkys either sell up and cut your losses now or give you self a chance get rid of these deadlegs.
You cannot feel sorry for venkys!! R u nuts!!!
Keeping Kean for nearly two years???
Getting rid of a fantastic & stable board???
Ignoring our CEO despite his many letters to Pune and then SACKING him!!!
Appointing Shebbby Singh???
Promising to invest and then doing opposite?????

Get real, fella!!!!!!!!!!
I did say a bit sorry. They knew they didn't know anything about football but unfortunately sought advise from an agent and the rest is history. Since then they obviously saw Shabby on TV, a Malaysian with Indian background who was once MOTM against Shrewsbury Town and allowed him to convince them he actually did know what he was talking about.
[quote][p][bold]Wellsy11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]icannotrace[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: Should sack Shaw agnew Singh Hendry and coar and let them fight for compensation worthless bunch Out with the lot of them[/p][/quote]To all those for week who have been calling Dangerous Dave, and still do, he is actually right. Whilst these clowns are running the circus there is no hope. . As for Henning Berg I say good on him. These pathetic excuses for Ronald McDonald need to understand you can't ask someone to sign a contract, get rid of them part way though the contract and be not expected to pay. I hope Michael Appleton takes the same route. . I also actually feel sorry in some part for the Venkys. They came into this not knowing a thing about football and have been misinformed and ripped off by all these sheisters posing ask football experts. Venkys either sell up and cut your losses now or give you self a chance get rid of these deadlegs.[/p][/quote]You cannot feel sorry for venkys!! R u nuts!!! Keeping Kean for nearly two years??? Getting rid of a fantastic & stable board??? Ignoring our CEO despite his many letters to Pune and then SACKING him!!! Appointing Shebbby Singh??? Promising to invest and then doing opposite????? Get real, fella!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]I did say a bit sorry. They knew they didn't know anything about football but unfortunately sought advise from an agent and the rest is history. Since then they obviously saw Shabby on TV, a Malaysian with Indian background who was once MOTM against Shrewsbury Town and allowed him to convince them he actually did know what he was talking about. icannotrace

9:27pm Thu 21 Mar 13

CheltRover says...

icannotrace wrote:
Wellsy11 wrote:
icannotrace wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Should sack Shaw agnew Singh Hendry and coar and let them fight for compensation worthless bunch
Out with the lot of them
To all those for week who have been calling Dangerous Dave, and still do, he is actually right. Whilst these clowns are running the circus there is no hope.
.
As for Henning Berg I say good on him. These pathetic excuses for Ronald McDonald need to understand you can't ask someone to sign a contract, get rid of them part way though the contract and be not expected to pay. I hope Michael Appleton takes the same route.
.
I also actually feel sorry in some part for the Venkys. They came into this not knowing a thing about football and have been misinformed and ripped off by all these sheisters posing ask football experts. Venkys either sell up and cut your losses now or give you self a chance get rid of these deadlegs.
You cannot feel sorry for venkys!! R u nuts!!!
Keeping Kean for nearly two years???
Getting rid of a fantastic & stable board???
Ignoring our CEO despite his many letters to Pune and then SACKING him!!!
Appointing Shebbby Singh???
Promising to invest and then doing opposite?????

Get real, fella!!!!!!!!!!
I did say a bit sorry. They knew they didn't know anything about football but unfortunately sought advise from an agent and the rest is history. Since then they obviously saw Shabby on TV, a Malaysian with Indian background who was once MOTM against Shrewsbury Town and allowed him to convince them he actually did know what he was talking about.
Not many would feel sorry for venkys, I don't. Yes they were badly advised initially, but didn't learn. They already had John Williams on board, any proper footballing person would have told them he was a prized asset who would see them right. They can ignore the gutter press and the numpties on here, but the broadsheets, invluding their own Indian Times, were also critical of their actions from day one. Sticking to your guns is one thing, but doing it in the face of huge opposition from many sources, is as stupid as it is irresponsible

As for Berg, contracts are there to protect both sides so he has every right to be paid up. I am only disappointed in him because he slagged off venkys when they took over, saying no proper manager would work for them. And then took their shilling. Well, he summed himself up there don't you think?
[quote][p][bold]icannotrace[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wellsy11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]icannotrace[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: Should sack Shaw agnew Singh Hendry and coar and let them fight for compensation worthless bunch Out with the lot of them[/p][/quote]To all those for week who have been calling Dangerous Dave, and still do, he is actually right. Whilst these clowns are running the circus there is no hope. . As for Henning Berg I say good on him. These pathetic excuses for Ronald McDonald need to understand you can't ask someone to sign a contract, get rid of them part way though the contract and be not expected to pay. I hope Michael Appleton takes the same route. . I also actually feel sorry in some part for the Venkys. They came into this not knowing a thing about football and have been misinformed and ripped off by all these sheisters posing ask football experts. Venkys either sell up and cut your losses now or give you self a chance get rid of these deadlegs.[/p][/quote]You cannot feel sorry for venkys!! R u nuts!!! Keeping Kean for nearly two years??? Getting rid of a fantastic & stable board??? Ignoring our CEO despite his many letters to Pune and then SACKING him!!! Appointing Shebbby Singh??? Promising to invest and then doing opposite????? Get real, fella!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]I did say a bit sorry. They knew they didn't know anything about football but unfortunately sought advise from an agent and the rest is history. Since then they obviously saw Shabby on TV, a Malaysian with Indian background who was once MOTM against Shrewsbury Town and allowed him to convince them he actually did know what he was talking about.[/p][/quote]Not many would feel sorry for venkys, I don't. Yes they were badly advised initially, but didn't learn. They already had John Williams on board, any proper footballing person would have told them he was a prized asset who would see them right. They can ignore the gutter press and the numpties on here, but the broadsheets, invluding their own Indian Times, were also critical of their actions from day one. Sticking to your guns is one thing, but doing it in the face of huge opposition from many sources, is as stupid as it is irresponsible As for Berg, contracts are there to protect both sides so he has every right to be paid up. I am only disappointed in him because he slagged off venkys when they took over, saying no proper manager would work for them. And then took their shilling. Well, he summed himself up there don't you think? CheltRover

9:42pm Thu 21 Mar 13

greenscreener says...

moh wrote:
In the last few games without Murphy the midfield has been even worst. Murphy's form has not been good but at least Murphy can string a few passes than the ones who have played.
Murphy has played 3 good halves of football in all his appearances this season. Which actually proved he could do it if he gave a 5hit about this club. The rest of the time he has been an absolute disgrace with no effort and a shocking attitude.

Encourage him to F' off back to Fulham and spend the money on a decent manager.
[quote][p][bold]moh[/bold] wrote: In the last few games without Murphy the midfield has been even worst. Murphy's form has not been good but at least Murphy can string a few passes than the ones who have played.[/p][/quote]Murphy has played 3 good halves of football in all his appearances this season. Which actually proved he could do it if he gave a 5hit about this club. The rest of the time he has been an absolute disgrace with no effort and a shocking attitude. Encourage him to F' off back to Fulham and spend the money on a decent manager. greenscreener

9:45pm Thu 21 Mar 13

Norma_scock says...

ste.g wrote:
if he had cared about the club like he said he did he wouldnt be doing this
Would you just walk away from 2 million quid that you were legally entitled to ?
[quote][p][bold]ste.g[/bold] wrote: if he had cared about the club like he said he did he wouldnt be doing this[/p][/quote]Would you just walk away from 2 million quid that you were legally entitled to ? Norma_scock

9:54pm Thu 21 Mar 13

greenscreener says...

CheltRover wrote:
icannotrace wrote:
Wellsy11 wrote:
icannotrace wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Should sack Shaw agnew Singh Hendry and coar and let them fight for compensation worthless bunch
Out with the lot of them
To all those for week who have been calling Dangerous Dave, and still do, he is actually right. Whilst these clowns are running the circus there is no hope.
.
As for Henning Berg I say good on him. These pathetic excuses for Ronald McDonald need to understand you can't ask someone to sign a contract, get rid of them part way though the contract and be not expected to pay. I hope Michael Appleton takes the same route.
.
I also actually feel sorry in some part for the Venkys. They came into this not knowing a thing about football and have been misinformed and ripped off by all these sheisters posing ask football experts. Venkys either sell up and cut your losses now or give you self a chance get rid of these deadlegs.
You cannot feel sorry for venkys!! R u nuts!!!
Keeping Kean for nearly two years???
Getting rid of a fantastic & stable board???
Ignoring our CEO despite his many letters to Pune and then SACKING him!!!
Appointing Shebbby Singh???
Promising to invest and then doing opposite?????

Get real, fella!!!!!!!!!!
I did say a bit sorry. They knew they didn't know anything about football but unfortunately sought advise from an agent and the rest is history. Since then they obviously saw Shabby on TV, a Malaysian with Indian background who was once MOTM against Shrewsbury Town and allowed him to convince them he actually did know what he was talking about.
Not many would feel sorry for venkys, I don't. Yes they were badly advised initially, but didn't learn. They already had John Williams on board, any proper footballing person would have told them he was a prized asset who would see them right. They can ignore the gutter press and the numpties on here, but the broadsheets, invluding their own Indian Times, were also critical of their actions from day one. Sticking to your guns is one thing, but doing it in the face of huge opposition from many sources, is as stupid as it is irresponsible

As for Berg, contracts are there to protect both sides so he has every right to be paid up. I am only disappointed in him because he slagged off venkys when they took over, saying no proper manager would work for them. And then took their shilling. Well, he summed himself up there don't you think?
Venkys are ignorant, they knew nothing about football and may have backed the wrong advisor to begin with but any half decent business people would have realised they were being taken to the cleaners within months.

Their arrogance is also breathtaking, they have compounded the problem by ignoring everyone who wants the club to succeed and recruiting idiot after idiot.

If you have a bucket and keep putting **** in it, don't be surprised when you end up with, a bucket of ****.
[quote][p][bold]CheltRover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]icannotrace[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wellsy11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]icannotrace[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: Should sack Shaw agnew Singh Hendry and coar and let them fight for compensation worthless bunch Out with the lot of them[/p][/quote]To all those for week who have been calling Dangerous Dave, and still do, he is actually right. Whilst these clowns are running the circus there is no hope. . As for Henning Berg I say good on him. These pathetic excuses for Ronald McDonald need to understand you can't ask someone to sign a contract, get rid of them part way though the contract and be not expected to pay. I hope Michael Appleton takes the same route. . I also actually feel sorry in some part for the Venkys. They came into this not knowing a thing about football and have been misinformed and ripped off by all these sheisters posing ask football experts. Venkys either sell up and cut your losses now or give you self a chance get rid of these deadlegs.[/p][/quote]You cannot feel sorry for venkys!! R u nuts!!! Keeping Kean for nearly two years??? Getting rid of a fantastic & stable board??? Ignoring our CEO despite his many letters to Pune and then SACKING him!!! Appointing Shebbby Singh??? Promising to invest and then doing opposite????? Get real, fella!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]I did say a bit sorry. They knew they didn't know anything about football but unfortunately sought advise from an agent and the rest is history. Since then they obviously saw Shabby on TV, a Malaysian with Indian background who was once MOTM against Shrewsbury Town and allowed him to convince them he actually did know what he was talking about.[/p][/quote]Not many would feel sorry for venkys, I don't. Yes they were badly advised initially, but didn't learn. They already had John Williams on board, any proper footballing person would have told them he was a prized asset who would see them right. They can ignore the gutter press and the numpties on here, but the broadsheets, invluding their own Indian Times, were also critical of their actions from day one. Sticking to your guns is one thing, but doing it in the face of huge opposition from many sources, is as stupid as it is irresponsible As for Berg, contracts are there to protect both sides so he has every right to be paid up. I am only disappointed in him because he slagged off venkys when they took over, saying no proper manager would work for them. And then took their shilling. Well, he summed himself up there don't you think?[/p][/quote]Venkys are ignorant, they knew nothing about football and may have backed the wrong advisor to begin with but any half decent business people would have realised they were being taken to the cleaners within months. Their arrogance is also breathtaking, they have compounded the problem by ignoring everyone who wants the club to succeed and recruiting idiot after idiot. If you have a bucket and keep putting **** in it, don't be surprised when you end up with, a bucket of ****. greenscreener

9:59pm Thu 21 Mar 13

Road Runner Road Runner says...

Of the discrepancy over Berg’s outstanding payment, Bevan said: “Blackburn will feel the force of the law in the High Court next week.”

Just how naive are these people purporting to be running BRFC ?

These despicable people are, and continue to drag our community through the dirt after promising, in effect, to uphold the very core of this, our football club.

These despicable people have not only ruined and brought to it's knee's the football club, but have actually encroached into my personal life making me feel as though I'm being attacked on all fronts of that which I stand for.

This is disgusting behaviour and I want to know when someone of authority is going to step in and end this debacle ?

If Bevan is shouting from the rooftops the above quote surely this is a call for Venky's to be removed from the club before any more long lasting damage can be done not only to BRFC, but football in general ?

Fit and proper ? The buffoons who wrote up that piece of rubbish ought to be ousted along with any A.N Other who destroys a football club along with it's local community !

The whole stinking mess all revolves around MONEY !

Arte et labore
Of the discrepancy over Berg’s outstanding payment, Bevan said: “Blackburn will feel the force of the law in the High Court next week.” Just how naive are these people purporting to be running BRFC ? These despicable people are, and continue to drag our community through the dirt after promising, in effect, to uphold the very core of this, our football club. These despicable people have not only ruined and brought to it's knee's the football club, but have actually encroached into my personal life making me feel as though I'm being attacked on all fronts of that which I stand for. This is disgusting behaviour and I want to know when someone of authority is going to step in and end this debacle ? If Bevan is shouting from the rooftops the above quote surely this is a call for Venky's to be removed from the club before any more long lasting damage can be done not only to BRFC, but football in general ? Fit and proper ? The buffoons who wrote up that piece of rubbish ought to be ousted along with any A.N Other who destroys a football club along with it's local community ! The whole stinking mess all revolves around MONEY ! Arte et labore Road Runner Road Runner

10:19pm Thu 21 Mar 13

RespectTheK-Dog says...

Wellsy11 wrote:
icannotrace wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Should sack Shaw agnew Singh Hendry and coar and let them fight for compensation worthless bunch
Out with the lot of them
To all those for week who have been calling Dangerous Dave, and still do, he is actually right. Whilst these clowns are running the circus there is no hope.
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As for Henning Berg I say good on him. These pathetic excuses for Ronald McDonald need to understand you can't ask someone to sign a contract, get rid of them part way though the contract and be not expected to pay. I hope Michael Appleton takes the same route.
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I also actually feel sorry in some part for the Venkys. They came into this not knowing a thing about football and have been misinformed and ripped off by all these sheisters posing ask football experts. Venkys either sell up and cut your losses now or give you self a chance get rid of these deadlegs.
You cannot feel sorry for venkys!! R u nuts!!!
Keeping Kean for nearly two years???
Getting rid of a fantastic & stable board???
Ignoring our CEO despite his many letters to Pune and then SACKING him!!!
Appointing Shebbby Singh???
Promising to invest and then doing opposite?????

Get real, fella!!!!!!!!!!
Joking aren't you?

The Venkys are the last hope for your Godforsaken club. Without them you'd be doomed.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: THIS IS ALL JACK WALKER'S FAULT.

He gave you false hope. Look at the ungrateful shower you fans are now. As if you've got the right to be in the top tier. As if you're a PROPER club. You're not.
[quote][p][bold]Wellsy11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]icannotrace[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: Should sack Shaw agnew Singh Hendry and coar and let them fight for compensation worthless bunch Out with the lot of them[/p][/quote]To all those for week who have been calling Dangerous Dave, and still do, he is actually right. Whilst these clowns are running the circus there is no hope. . As for Henning Berg I say good on him. These pathetic excuses for Ronald McDonald need to understand you can't ask someone to sign a contract, get rid of them part way though the contract and be not expected to pay. I hope Michael Appleton takes the same route. . I also actually feel sorry in some part for the Venkys. They came into this not knowing a thing about football and have been misinformed and ripped off by all these sheisters posing ask football experts. Venkys either sell up and cut your losses now or give you self a chance get rid of these deadlegs.[/p][/quote]You cannot feel sorry for venkys!! R u nuts!!! Keeping Kean for nearly two years??? Getting rid of a fantastic & stable board??? Ignoring our CEO despite his many letters to Pune and then SACKING him!!! Appointing Shebbby Singh??? Promising to invest and then doing opposite????? Get real, fella!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Joking aren't you? The Venkys are the last hope for your Godforsaken club. Without them you'd be doomed. I've said it before and I'll say it again: THIS IS ALL JACK WALKER'S FAULT. He gave you false hope. Look at the ungrateful shower you fans are now. As if you've got the right to be in the top tier. As if you're a PROPER club. You're not. RespectTheK-Dog

10:22pm Thu 21 Mar 13

RespectTheK-Dog says...

Of the discrepancy over Berg’s outstanding payment, Bevan said: “Blackburn will feel the force of the law in the High Court next week.”

Rubbish. .

UK law does not apply to the Venkys, who are Indian nationals. Just watch - there's nothing the arrogant British High Court can do so Bevan should shut his fat mouth. The Venkys shouldn't even bother turning up to court for this hearing because they don't have jurisdiction.
Of the discrepancy over Berg’s outstanding payment, Bevan said: “Blackburn will feel the force of the law in the High Court next week.” Rubbish. . UK law does not apply to the Venkys, who are Indian nationals. Just watch - there's nothing the arrogant British High Court can do so Bevan should shut his fat mouth. The Venkys shouldn't even bother turning up to court for this hearing because they don't have jurisdiction. RespectTheK-Dog

10:38pm Thu 21 Mar 13

Legal Beagle says...

RespectTheK-Dog wrote:
Of the discrepancy over Berg’s outstanding payment, Bevan said: “Blackburn will feel the force of the law in the High Court next week.”

Rubbish. .

UK law does not apply to the Venkys, who are Indian nationals. Just watch - there's nothing the arrogant British High Court can do so Bevan should shut his fat mouth. The Venkys shouldn't even bother turning up to court for this hearing because they don't have jurisdiction.
It might be worth limiting your comments to subjects that you are actually qualified to speak about - assuming there are any.

The contract was made in England and it is subject to English law. The nationality of the parties to the contract is entirely irrelevant.

What I fail to understand, however, is why the contract wasn't prepared so as to allow Berg's dismissal with minimal compemsation in the event of his failing to achieve acceptable results.
[quote][p][bold]RespectTheK-Dog[/bold] wrote: Of the discrepancy over Berg’s outstanding payment, Bevan said: “Blackburn will feel the force of the law in the High Court next week.” Rubbish. . UK law does not apply to the Venkys, who are Indian nationals. Just watch - there's nothing the arrogant British High Court can do so Bevan should shut his fat mouth. The Venkys shouldn't even bother turning up to court for this hearing because they don't have jurisdiction.[/p][/quote]It might be worth limiting your comments to subjects that you are actually qualified to speak about - assuming there are any. The contract was made in England and it is subject to English law. The nationality of the parties to the contract is entirely irrelevant. What I fail to understand, however, is why the contract wasn't prepared so as to allow Berg's dismissal with minimal compemsation in the event of his failing to achieve acceptable results. Legal Beagle

11:22pm Thu 21 Mar 13

greenscreener says...

Legal Beagle wrote:
RespectTheK-Dog wrote:
Of the discrepancy over Berg’s outstanding payment, Bevan said: “Blackburn will feel the force of the law in the High Court next week.”

Rubbish. .

UK law does not apply to the Venkys, who are Indian nationals. Just watch - there's nothing the arrogant British High Court can do so Bevan should shut his fat mouth. The Venkys shouldn't even bother turning up to court for this hearing because they don't have jurisdiction.
It might be worth limiting your comments to subjects that you are actually qualified to speak about - assuming there are any.

The contract was made in England and it is subject to English law. The nationality of the parties to the contract is entirely irrelevant.

What I fail to understand, however, is why the contract wasn't prepared so as to allow Berg's dismissal with minimal compemsation in the event of his failing to achieve acceptable results.
Probably because a clause like that would ensure nobody would ever take the job.
[quote][p][bold]Legal Beagle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RespectTheK-Dog[/bold] wrote: Of the discrepancy over Berg’s outstanding payment, Bevan said: “Blackburn will feel the force of the law in the High Court next week.” Rubbish. . UK law does not apply to the Venkys, who are Indian nationals. Just watch - there's nothing the arrogant British High Court can do so Bevan should shut his fat mouth. The Venkys shouldn't even bother turning up to court for this hearing because they don't have jurisdiction.[/p][/quote]It might be worth limiting your comments to subjects that you are actually qualified to speak about - assuming there are any. The contract was made in England and it is subject to English law. The nationality of the parties to the contract is entirely irrelevant. What I fail to understand, however, is why the contract wasn't prepared so as to allow Berg's dismissal with minimal compemsation in the event of his failing to achieve acceptable results.[/p][/quote]Probably because a clause like that would ensure nobody would ever take the job. greenscreener

5:49am Fri 22 Mar 13

whappen says...

RespectTheK-Dog wrote:
Of the discrepancy over Berg’s outstanding payment, Bevan said: “Blackburn will feel the force of the law in the High Court next week.” Rubbish. . UK law does not apply to the Venkys, who are Indian nationals. Just watch - there's nothing the arrogant British High Court can do so Bevan should shut his fat mouth. The Venkys shouldn't even bother turning up to court for this hearing because they don't have jurisdiction.
Sorry to rain on your parade, but it does apply to Blackburn Rovers Football Club which is what will go before the beak, not Venkatesh Hatcheries, India or Mrs Desai and the brothers Rao. It is also Venkys, London that, on paper at least,bought the club, so they are not personally liable for anything.

Do you honestly think they (or any other football club / Limited Company "owner") would leave themselves wide open to be personally screwed? All owners of all Limited Companies are liable up to the value of the shares they own. That may be all of them and they may lose a lot if the business goes t!ts up, but only so much and they would still have a home to live in (or sell). A lot of sole traders cover themselves in this way; it costs a bit to be registered but is a safeguard against being made personally bankrupt. Limited Company; the clues in the title.

Similarly, Venkys don't have to turn up in court as they have no official position at the club.

Unfortunately for us, financially at least, Bevan's perfectly correct. They'll settle out of court anyway; just like Kean did and Appleton will, unless he's already sorted something out with the squabbling schoolgirls currently overseeing this farce.

In any case, why should Humming Bird be have to suffer because of the total incompetance of those owning/running the club? Good luck to him, I say. Maybe Singh and Shaw's bickering will give Venkys a kick up the derriere now it has started to cost them money.

We would prefer neither to be here of course, but at least Venkys must now know it is impossible to carry on with both.

All in all, f@cking pathetic.
[quote][p][bold]RespectTheK-Dog[/bold] wrote: Of the discrepancy over Berg’s outstanding payment, Bevan said: “Blackburn will feel the force of the law in the High Court next week.” Rubbish. . UK law does not apply to the Venkys, who are Indian nationals. Just watch - there's nothing the arrogant British High Court can do so Bevan should shut his fat mouth. The Venkys shouldn't even bother turning up to court for this hearing because they don't have jurisdiction.[/p][/quote]Sorry to rain on your parade, but it does apply to Blackburn Rovers Football Club which is what will go before the beak, not Venkatesh Hatcheries, India or Mrs Desai and the brothers Rao. It is also Venkys, London that, on paper at least,bought the club, so they are not personally liable for anything. Do you honestly think they (or any other football club / Limited Company "owner") would leave themselves wide open to be personally screwed? All owners of all Limited Companies are liable up to the value of the shares they own. That may be all of them and they may lose a lot if the business goes t!ts up, but only so much and they would still have a home to live in (or sell). A lot of sole traders cover themselves in this way; it costs a bit to be registered but is a safeguard against being made personally bankrupt. Limited Company; the clues in the title. Similarly, Venkys don't have to turn up in court as they have no official position at the club. Unfortunately for us, financially at least, Bevan's perfectly correct. They'll settle out of court anyway; just like Kean did and Appleton will, unless he's already sorted something out with the squabbling schoolgirls currently overseeing this farce. In any case, why should Humming Bird be have to suffer because of the total incompetance of those owning/running the club? Good luck to him, I say. Maybe Singh and Shaw's bickering will give Venkys a kick up the derriere now it has started to cost them money. We would prefer neither to be here of course, but at least Venkys must now know it is impossible to carry on with both. All in all, f@cking pathetic. whappen

6:22am Fri 22 Mar 13

whappen says...

greenscreener wrote:
Legal Beagle wrote:
RespectTheK-Dog wrote: Of the discrepancy over Berg’s outstanding payment, Bevan said: “Blackburn will feel the force of the law in the High Court next week.” Rubbish. . UK law does not apply to the Venkys, who are Indian nationals. Just watch - there's nothing the arrogant British High Court can do so Bevan should shut his fat mouth. The Venkys shouldn't even bother turning up to court for this hearing because they don't have jurisdiction.
It might be worth limiting your comments to subjects that you are actually qualified to speak about - assuming there are any. The contract was made in England and it is subject to English law. The nationality of the parties to the contract is entirely irrelevant. What I fail to understand, however, is why the contract wasn't prepared so as to allow Berg's dismissal with minimal compemsation in the event of his failing to achieve acceptable results.
Probably because a clause like that would ensure nobody would ever take the job.
Sorry, hadn't got down to your comment.

As for the manager having a results clause in his contract; that would just never happen. Why should it? For a start, the manager is not totally responsible for results, especially if he takes over mid-season. We have to consider the players liabilty for results in all of this and do you think they would allow such a clause to be in their contracts?

Some forwards have bonuses for scoring a certain number of goals but there's no penalty if they don't. Do you think it would be fair on, let's say, Jordan Rhodes, if he had to shell out because he hasn't had any service? Hardly.

Plus, why should a manager agree to that when he knows he'll get a payout if they do sack him? They may have a compensation clause but that does not mean their sacking is based on x number of results alone. Also, "acceptable results" is subjective and just couldn't be put in a contract; acceptable to one man is unacceptable to another.

True, the two may be linked, unless that is his sacking comes as a result of infighting such as that going on at Ewood.

Let's not blame the managers for that; Humming Bird is only asking for what is rightfully his. He'll probably end up not getting it all, out of court settlements and all that, but there's no harm in him threatening to do it. It's a ploy used by a lot of sacked managers to get something sorted with the club if it's dragging its feet on paying up what it owes.
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Legal Beagle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RespectTheK-Dog[/bold] wrote: Of the discrepancy over Berg’s outstanding payment, Bevan said: “Blackburn will feel the force of the law in the High Court next week.” Rubbish. . UK law does not apply to the Venkys, who are Indian nationals. Just watch - there's nothing the arrogant British High Court can do so Bevan should shut his fat mouth. The Venkys shouldn't even bother turning up to court for this hearing because they don't have jurisdiction.[/p][/quote]It might be worth limiting your comments to subjects that you are actually qualified to speak about - assuming there are any. The contract was made in England and it is subject to English law. The nationality of the parties to the contract is entirely irrelevant. What I fail to understand, however, is why the contract wasn't prepared so as to allow Berg's dismissal with minimal compemsation in the event of his failing to achieve acceptable results.[/p][/quote]Probably because a clause like that would ensure nobody would ever take the job.[/p][/quote]Sorry, hadn't got down to your comment. As for the manager having a results clause in his contract; that would just never happen. Why should it? For a start, the manager is not totally responsible for results, especially if he takes over mid-season. We have to consider the players liabilty for results in all of this and do you think they would allow such a clause to be in their contracts? Some forwards have bonuses for scoring a certain number of goals but there's no penalty if they don't. Do you think it would be fair on, let's say, Jordan Rhodes, if he had to shell out because he hasn't had any service? Hardly. Plus, why should a manager agree to that when he knows he'll get a payout if they do sack him? They may have a compensation clause but that does not mean their sacking is based on x number of results alone. Also, "acceptable results" is subjective and just couldn't be put in a contract; acceptable to one man is unacceptable to another. True, the two may be linked, unless that is his sacking comes as a result of infighting such as that going on at Ewood. Let's not blame the managers for that; Humming Bird is only asking for what is rightfully his. He'll probably end up not getting it all, out of court settlements and all that, but there's no harm in him threatening to do it. It's a ploy used by a lot of sacked managers to get something sorted with the club if it's dragging its feet on paying up what it owes. whappen

6:32am Fri 22 Mar 13

spike t says...

Agent Berg!
Agent Berg! spike t

7:08am Fri 22 Mar 13

whappen says...

merlinrabbit wrote:
I dont blame Berg. He signed a contract with them. They need to learn that when they agree to something they have to honour it. Like all the things they promised when they bought the club and then reneged on it. Berg wasnt the right man but that is not his fault. It is Venkys for taking heed from a dimwit like Singh. Berg probably couldnt get a word in at the training ground with Shebby the snake behind him. I dont feel sorry for these managers - Kean, Berg, Appleton. They all knew the score, even if they didnt at the beginning they knew into their tenure. Kean refused to resign, Berg and Appleton knew before they came. Even so Venkys have to abide by the employment contract. They think they are above being accountable to any of us, fans, players, managers
Exactly.

Same thing happens at Chelsea all the time. Abramovich gave Mourinho the hook, FFS. Every manager since must have known his tenure is highly likely to be brief but they'll come out of it wealthier for the experience. They may think they're the man and their egos may take a bit of a bashing, but them being sacked by Chelsea doesn't necessarily mean they won't get another (very good) job elsewhere (AVB, Ancelotti, even Ranieri for a while); chairmen know the unique way it works at the Bridge and won't think any less of the manager because Roman suddenly doesn't like the cut of his jib.

It's pretty obvious he never really wanted to hire DiMatteo but kind of had to when he won the Top 4 League. Couldn't wait to get shot though.

Besides, Abramovich has bought the right to hire and fire who the f@ck he wants. It may seem crazy and fly in the face ot the old theory which is always rolled out about giving a manager time but it seems to work; they win something every season.

Just a note for Steve Kean; Abramovich picks most of the players Chelsea signs and I don't hear their managers complaining. OK they are usually world class rather than the dross Anderson and Singh lumbered us with, but it would be have been interesting if it would have been brought up had he gone to court as a precedent.

Like I say, he bought the right to do what the f@ck he wants (spent over a billion at the last count). I wouldn't expect Venkys to spend anything like that kind of money but they need to sort themselves out pretty d@mn soon and decide which path they are going to take.

Throwing the comparatively low levels of cash they have at the problem does not and will not guarantee anything. Running the club like they do does and will.
[quote][p][bold]merlinrabbit[/bold] wrote: I dont blame Berg. He signed a contract with them. They need to learn that when they agree to something they have to honour it. Like all the things they promised when they bought the club and then reneged on it. Berg wasnt the right man but that is not his fault. It is Venkys for taking heed from a dimwit like Singh. Berg probably couldnt get a word in at the training ground with Shebby the snake behind him. I dont feel sorry for these managers - Kean, Berg, Appleton. They all knew the score, even if they didnt at the beginning they knew into their tenure. Kean refused to resign, Berg and Appleton knew before they came. Even so Venkys have to abide by the employment contract. They think they are above being accountable to any of us, fans, players, managers[/p][/quote]Exactly. Same thing happens at Chelsea all the time. Abramovich gave Mourinho the hook, FFS. Every manager since must have known his tenure is highly likely to be brief but they'll come out of it wealthier for the experience. They may think they're the man and their egos may take a bit of a bashing, but them being sacked by Chelsea doesn't necessarily mean they won't get another (very good) job elsewhere (AVB, Ancelotti, even Ranieri for a while); chairmen know the unique way it works at the Bridge and won't think any less of the manager because Roman suddenly doesn't like the cut of his jib. It's pretty obvious he never really wanted to hire DiMatteo but kind of had to when he won the Top 4 League. Couldn't wait to get shot though. Besides, Abramovich has bought the right to hire and fire who the f@ck he wants. It may seem crazy and fly in the face ot the old theory which is always rolled out about giving a manager time but it seems to work; they win something every season. Just a note for Steve Kean; Abramovich picks most of the players Chelsea signs and I don't hear their managers complaining. OK they are usually world class rather than the dross Anderson and Singh lumbered us with, but it would be have been interesting if it would have been brought up had he gone to court as a precedent. Like I say, he bought the right to do what the f@ck he wants (spent over a billion at the last count). I wouldn't expect Venkys to spend anything like that kind of money but they need to sort themselves out pretty d@mn soon and decide which path they are going to take. Throwing the comparatively low levels of cash they have at the problem does not and will not guarantee anything. Running the club like they do does and will. whappen

8:33am Fri 22 Mar 13

BRFC75 says...

RespectTheK-Dog wrote:
Of the discrepancy over Berg’s outstanding payment, Bevan said: “Blackburn will feel the force of the law in the High Court next week.”

Rubbish. .

UK law does not apply to the Venkys, who are Indian nationals. Just watch - there's nothing the arrogant British High Court can do so Bevan should shut his fat mouth. The Venkys shouldn't even bother turning up to court for this hearing because they don't have jurisdiction.
UK LAW does apply to the Venky`s, because the contract is between a UK company and what was a employee of the UK company ,they wont turn up in court anyway it will be their legal representative , but if they did continually ignore the demand the authorities will simply sell up the Venky`s assets and pay Berg and also pay themselves fat admin and liquidation fee`s.
[quote][p][bold]RespectTheK-Dog[/bold] wrote: Of the discrepancy over Berg’s outstanding payment, Bevan said: “Blackburn will feel the force of the law in the High Court next week.” Rubbish. . UK law does not apply to the Venkys, who are Indian nationals. Just watch - there's nothing the arrogant British High Court can do so Bevan should shut his fat mouth. The Venkys shouldn't even bother turning up to court for this hearing because they don't have jurisdiction.[/p][/quote]UK LAW does apply to the Venky`s, because the contract is between a UK company and what was a employee of the UK company ,they wont turn up in court anyway it will be their legal representative , but if they did continually ignore the demand the authorities will simply sell up the Venky`s assets and pay Berg and also pay themselves fat admin and liquidation fee`s. BRFC75

8:35am Fri 22 Mar 13

gb1882 says...

Good lad Henning screw them into the ground. Any nail in the vermins coffin is appreciated.

Hopefully Appleton can follow you in and get the same.
Good lad Henning screw them into the ground. Any nail in the vermins coffin is appreciated. Hopefully Appleton can follow you in and get the same. gb1882

9:41am Fri 22 Mar 13

Rovers 1495 says...

I don't understand the LMA being up in arms about the treatment of managers, treat them like employees in any other business. OK, when I start a new job, I expect to be on a 6-month trial period. If I'm sh*t at what I do, I will be sacked without any notice period. It's normal, if I'm not up to the task I'm employed to perform, noone turns round and gives me 2m at a tribunal.
I don't understand the LMA being up in arms about the treatment of managers, treat them like employees in any other business. OK, when I start a new job, I expect to be on a 6-month trial period. If I'm sh*t at what I do, I will be sacked without any notice period. It's normal, if I'm not up to the task I'm employed to perform, noone turns round and gives me 2m at a tribunal. Rovers 1495

9:51am Fri 22 Mar 13

Riverside 7 says...

I feel that the Board and the administration staff who are still left at the club are the one's to blame for the Berg contract fiasco.

After Berg's appointment I remember Shebby Singh telling us that he had just one target - promotion.

If that was the case, then clearly Berg's contract should have reflected that.

In other words he should have only been appointed until the end of the season but subject to a big financial bonus if he had been successful and achieved the club's target.

I would like to know just who was responsible for granting Berg a 3 year contract?
Whoever it was should have been sacked long ago.

With regard to any future appointment - how can any Rovers' fan have faith in Venkys / Singh / Shaw / Agnew after their recent choices?

Venkys need to realise that a manager is the most important person at any football club and if they do not appoint the correct person it costs the owners / club millions of pounds in the long run.

Much better to 'push the boat out' and get a man with the best credentials - assuming of course that anyone would now want to come to Ewood.

Urgent action is needed to sort out the rift in the Boardroom.

Given all the promises that we have had over improving communication with the fans, I find it amazing that the neither Singh, Shaw or Agnew have made any statement to the fans over this weeks events.
I feel that the Board and the administration staff who are still left at the club are the one's to blame for the Berg contract fiasco. After Berg's appointment I remember Shebby Singh telling us that he had just one target - promotion. If that was the case, then clearly Berg's contract should have reflected that. In other words he should have only been appointed until the end of the season but subject to a big financial bonus if he had been successful and achieved the club's target. I would like to know just who was responsible for granting Berg a 3 year contract? Whoever it was should have been sacked long ago. With regard to any future appointment - how can any Rovers' fan have faith in Venkys / Singh / Shaw / Agnew after their recent choices? Venkys need to realise that a manager is the most important person at any football club and if they do not appoint the correct person it costs the owners / club millions of pounds in the long run. Much better to 'push the boat out' and get a man with the best credentials - assuming of course that anyone would now want to come to Ewood. Urgent action is needed to sort out the rift in the Boardroom. Given all the promises that we have had over improving communication with the fans, I find it amazing that the neither Singh, Shaw or Agnew have made any statement to the fans over this weeks events. Riverside 7

9:55am Fri 22 Mar 13

jeppo says...

so £2m for Berg and presumably the same will be coming to Appleton.
.

As a fan, I keep trying to convince myself that Venkys will evenutally see sense and leave the running of the club to people that know what theyre doing. Clearly though, that is not the case.
.
How the hell they can let Shebby make any decisions after the mistakes he made, I'll never know.
Its also amazing that the Berg situation must have cost them say £4m, yet 67 days later they go and do exactly the same again...
.

They are reluctant to spend money unless they have to on players, but then they keep throwing away money on changing managers!
.
With a business the size of Venkys, they cant be stupid...but every decision they have made since taking over Rovers has been exactly that!!
so £2m for Berg and presumably the same will be coming to Appleton. . As a fan, I keep trying to convince myself that Venkys will evenutally see sense and leave the running of the club to people that know what theyre doing. Clearly though, that is not the case. . How the hell they can let Shebby make any decisions after the mistakes he made, I'll never know. Its also amazing that the Berg situation must have cost them say £4m, yet 67 days later they go and do exactly the same again... . They are reluctant to spend money unless they have to on players, but then they keep throwing away money on changing managers! . With a business the size of Venkys, they cant be stupid...but every decision they have made since taking over Rovers has been exactly that!! jeppo

11:02am Fri 22 Mar 13

A Rover 45 years and over says...

Nothing wrong with sacking a manager who is taking us down the relegation route and they were right to sack MA after backing him so well.. It's the selection process in the first place that's completely wrong. It's as though they put all the non achievers names in hat and then draw one out. There are even rumours that they would like Tim Shearwood again. Absolutey crazy after all that as gone on. Shebby Sing and Derek Shaw should be taken well out of the picture and they must not be allowed to ruin this club because if these guys are allowed to continue they surely will ruin us in my opinion.
Nothing wrong with sacking a manager who is taking us down the relegation route and they were right to sack MA after backing him so well.. It's the selection process in the first place that's completely wrong. It's as though they put all the non achievers names in hat and then draw one out. There are even rumours that they would like Tim Shearwood again. Absolutey crazy after all that as gone on. Shebby Sing and Derek Shaw should be taken well out of the picture and they must not be allowed to ruin this club because if these guys are allowed to continue they surely will ruin us in my opinion. A Rover 45 years and over

11:38am Fri 22 Mar 13

nil bye mouth says...

GO Agent Berg milk em dry like an old dairy cow, clueless classless laughing stock of a club.HA HA HA ADMINISTRATION TO FOLLOW SHORTLY when the venkys have tossed you away like an old fag end. Never has a clubs fans deserved it more HA HA
GO Agent Berg milk em dry like an old dairy cow, clueless classless laughing stock of a club.HA HA HA ADMINISTRATION TO FOLLOW SHORTLY when the venkys have tossed you away like an old fag end. Never has a clubs fans deserved it more HA HA nil bye mouth

2:33pm Fri 22 Mar 13

MxMave says...

Berg + Appleton deserve NOTHING. They failed and should be entitled to absolutely nothing.
Berg + Appleton deserve NOTHING. They failed and should be entitled to absolutely nothing. MxMave

3:51pm Fri 22 Mar 13

Alan42 says...

nil bye mouth wrote:
GO Agent Berg milk em dry like an old dairy cow, clueless classless laughing stock of a club.HA HA HA ADMINISTRATION TO FOLLOW SHORTLY when the venkys have tossed you away like an old fag end. Never has a clubs fans deserved it more HA HA
Unlike Burnley. That cow has been dry for years. Milked dry by it's so called directors and now fit only for the knackers yard and soon to become a tube of evostick.
[quote][p][bold]nil bye mouth[/bold] wrote: GO Agent Berg milk em dry like an old dairy cow, clueless classless laughing stock of a club.HA HA HA ADMINISTRATION TO FOLLOW SHORTLY when the venkys have tossed you away like an old fag end. Never has a clubs fans deserved it more HA HA[/p][/quote]Unlike Burnley. That cow has been dry for years. Milked dry by it's so called directors and now fit only for the knackers yard and soon to become a tube of evostick. Alan42

5:33pm Fri 22 Mar 13

claret pheonix says...

Alan42 wrote:
nil bye mouth wrote:
GO Agent Berg milk em dry like an old dairy cow, clueless classless laughing stock of a club.HA HA HA ADMINISTRATION TO FOLLOW SHORTLY when the venkys have tossed you away like an old fag end. Never has a clubs fans deserved it more HA HA
Unlike Burnley. That cow has been dry for years. Milked dry by it's so called directors and now fit only for the knackers yard and soon to become a tube of evostick.
Think your beloved rovers are going down the same route as pompey. Burnley are cutting their cloth to fit their budget which wil ensure continuing football albeit in this division or below . Whereas you could sink into oblivion with your current mickey mouse owners.That is reality.
[quote][p][bold]Alan42[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nil bye mouth[/bold] wrote: GO Agent Berg milk em dry like an old dairy cow, clueless classless laughing stock of a club.HA HA HA ADMINISTRATION TO FOLLOW SHORTLY when the venkys have tossed you away like an old fag end. Never has a clubs fans deserved it more HA HA[/p][/quote]Unlike Burnley. That cow has been dry for years. Milked dry by it's so called directors and now fit only for the knackers yard and soon to become a tube of evostick.[/p][/quote]Think your beloved rovers are going down the same route as pompey. Burnley are cutting their cloth to fit their budget which wil ensure continuing football albeit in this division or below . Whereas you could sink into oblivion with your current mickey mouse owners.That is reality. claret pheonix

8:58pm Fri 22 Mar 13

noddy57 says...

this is the only job in the world where you get rich rewards for failure,,bergs claim for 2 million pounds is an a front to the game, but you cant blame him,
this is the only job in the world where you get rich rewards for failure,,bergs claim for 2 million pounds is an a front to the game, but you cant blame him, noddy57

9:26pm Fri 22 Mar 13

handyamBRFC says...

hi
The curse of ex top players & ex BRFC trying management.

Top & ex BRFC players do not always make good managers.!
well, I think we know now for sure.

H Berg....!!
also.....
def the case with R Keane.
Unfortunately, as a manager, Roy keane is and has been a total failure.

Managing requires different skills and attributes. Players do not naturally have these qualities.
Few go on to accomplish the right attitude, skills required.
Yes too many might be taking their coaching qualifications but in practice they will still make poor managers.

It is evident that Roy Keane does not have those.

for example:
he still thinks hes a top player
but reality is he's not anymore
and still he does not see himself as retired...!!
he still thinks like the top player he was with quality players around him.

Actually, even at Man UTD where all are quality, it was common for Roy to get angry everyday with the players.
This increased towards the end of his career so much that Fergy. had to safe guard his other players and hence Roy had to go.

he has bought many players as a manager but most have been bad buys.
he rarely made a good choice with players bought most were average or not good enough..!

He has very poor financial sense.
his track record at buying players is very poor.

he gets angry very quickly.

he easily falls out with his players
if he does not get on with players.
he gets angry & he sidelines too many players.

In fact, Roy has fallen out with too many players and likely always to fall out with other human being and players because of his personality adn fiery temper & he wants all his way
so much that he would disregard or banish players. He would never play them again.

Hence with all the previous teams he has managed he has managed to have more players that he would not play again then those actually left to choose from. ....!!!!!!

He is a hot head and likely to fall out at any time, he is not dependable, he has no successful management record, & def. not BRFC management material.

We need stability, and success.
above all else we need a manger who can get on with all concerned especially winning over the fans and uniting everyone at the club.
We need someone to bring in quality players from the Uk and abroad. someone with connections to clubs and players.
We need someone who can take us back to the Premier and that requires someone who is hard working, someone who is not coming only for money, someone who can lead by example, someone who is motivated, someone who can deliver the results required by all fans, someone with charisma, style and passion.

always
Arte et Labore
hi The curse of ex top players & ex BRFC trying management. Top & ex BRFC players do not always make good managers.! well, I think we know now for sure. H Berg....!! also..... def the case with R Keane. Unfortunately, as a manager, Roy keane is and has been a total failure. Managing requires different skills and attributes. Players do not naturally have these qualities. Few go on to accomplish the right attitude, skills required. Yes too many might be taking their coaching qualifications but in practice they will still make poor managers. It is evident that Roy Keane does not have those. for example: he still thinks hes a top player but reality is he's not anymore and still he does not see himself as retired...!! he still thinks like the top player he was with quality players around him. Actually, even at Man UTD where all are quality, it was common for Roy to get angry everyday with the players. This increased towards the end of his career so much that Fergy. had to safe guard his other players and hence Roy had to go. he has bought many players as a manager but most have been bad buys. he rarely made a good choice with players bought most were average or not good enough..! He has very poor financial sense. his track record at buying players is very poor. he gets angry very quickly. he easily falls out with his players if he does not get on with players. he gets angry & he sidelines too many players. In fact, Roy has fallen out with too many players and likely always to fall out with other human being and players because of his personality adn fiery temper & he wants all his way so much that he would disregard or banish players. He would never play them again. Hence with all the previous teams he has managed he has managed to have more players that he would not play again then those actually left to choose from. ....!!!!!! He is a hot head and likely to fall out at any time, he is not dependable, he has no successful management record, & def. not BRFC management material. We need stability, and success. above all else we need a manger who can get on with all concerned especially winning over the fans and uniting everyone at the club. We need someone to bring in quality players from the Uk and abroad. someone with connections to clubs and players. We need someone who can take us back to the Premier and that requires someone who is hard working, someone who is not coming only for money, someone who can lead by example, someone who is motivated, someone who can deliver the results required by all fans, someone with charisma, style and passion. always Arte et Labore handyamBRFC

8:32am Tue 26 Mar 13

walshy2866 says...

Berg is a greedy little tw@t, he was quick enough to run off to Man U in the 90's then come crawling back when he wasn't good enough. Compensation for incompetence, only football and banks offer that
Berg is a greedy little tw@t, he was quick enough to run off to Man U in the 90's then come crawling back when he wasn't good enough. Compensation for incompetence, only football and banks offer that walshy2866

3:01pm Thu 4 Apr 13

jibbsarefynny says...

jeez these jibbs must have money to burn appoint morons sack them and then make them millionaires good stuff hahahahahaha
jeez these jibbs must have money to burn appoint morons sack them and then make them millionaires good stuff hahahahahaha jibbsarefynny

4:01pm Thu 4 Apr 13

BlackburnEyes says...

handyamBRFC wrote:
hi
The curse of ex top players & ex BRFC trying management.

Top & ex BRFC players do not always make good managers.!
well, I think we know now for sure.

H Berg....!!
also.....
def the case with R Keane.
Unfortunately, as a manager, Roy keane is and has been a total failure.

Managing requires different skills and attributes. Players do not naturally have these qualities.
Few go on to accomplish the right attitude, skills required.
Yes too many might be taking their coaching qualifications but in practice they will still make poor managers.

It is evident that Roy Keane does not have those.

for example:
he still thinks hes a top player
but reality is he's not anymore
and still he does not see himself as retired...!!
he still thinks like the top player he was with quality players around him.

Actually, even at Man UTD where all are quality, it was common for Roy to get angry everyday with the players.
This increased towards the end of his career so much that Fergy. had to safe guard his other players and hence Roy had to go.

he has bought many players as a manager but most have been bad buys.
he rarely made a good choice with players bought most were average or not good enough..!

He has very poor financial sense.
his track record at buying players is very poor.

he gets angry very quickly.

he easily falls out with his players
if he does not get on with players.
he gets angry & he sidelines too many players.

In fact, Roy has fallen out with too many players and likely always to fall out with other human being and players because of his personality adn fiery temper & he wants all his way
so much that he would disregard or banish players. He would never play them again.

Hence with all the previous teams he has managed he has managed to have more players that he would not play again then those actually left to choose from. ....!!!!!!

He is a hot head and likely to fall out at any time, he is not dependable, he has no successful management record, & def. not BRFC management material.

We need stability, and success.
above all else we need a manger who can get on with all concerned especially winning over the fans and uniting everyone at the club.
We need someone to bring in quality players from the Uk and abroad. someone with connections to clubs and players.
We need someone who can take us back to the Premier and that requires someone who is hard working, someone who is not coming only for money, someone who can lead by example, someone who is motivated, someone who can deliver the results required by all fans, someone with charisma, style and passion.

always
Arte et Labore
what you need is to empty ewood for a few weeks and and the away matches and watch how they put it up for sale.....unfortunate
ly too many woevers fans are not willing to unite....you should take the LFC as an inspirational not one fan wanted tom and jerry in charge in the end it went to the high court but the fans won....take heed and execute!
[quote][p][bold]handyamBRFC[/bold] wrote: hi The curse of ex top players & ex BRFC trying management. Top & ex BRFC players do not always make good managers.! well, I think we know now for sure. H Berg....!! also..... def the case with R Keane. Unfortunately, as a manager, Roy keane is and has been a total failure. Managing requires different skills and attributes. Players do not naturally have these qualities. Few go on to accomplish the right attitude, skills required. Yes too many might be taking their coaching qualifications but in practice they will still make poor managers. It is evident that Roy Keane does not have those. for example: he still thinks hes a top player but reality is he's not anymore and still he does not see himself as retired...!! he still thinks like the top player he was with quality players around him. Actually, even at Man UTD where all are quality, it was common for Roy to get angry everyday with the players. This increased towards the end of his career so much that Fergy. had to safe guard his other players and hence Roy had to go. he has bought many players as a manager but most have been bad buys. he rarely made a good choice with players bought most were average or not good enough..! He has very poor financial sense. his track record at buying players is very poor. he gets angry very quickly. he easily falls out with his players if he does not get on with players. he gets angry & he sidelines too many players. In fact, Roy has fallen out with too many players and likely always to fall out with other human being and players because of his personality adn fiery temper & he wants all his way so much that he would disregard or banish players. He would never play them again. Hence with all the previous teams he has managed he has managed to have more players that he would not play again then those actually left to choose from. ....!!!!!! He is a hot head and likely to fall out at any time, he is not dependable, he has no successful management record, & def. not BRFC management material. We need stability, and success. above all else we need a manger who can get on with all concerned especially winning over the fans and uniting everyone at the club. We need someone to bring in quality players from the Uk and abroad. someone with connections to clubs and players. We need someone who can take us back to the Premier and that requires someone who is hard working, someone who is not coming only for money, someone who can lead by example, someone who is motivated, someone who can deliver the results required by all fans, someone with charisma, style and passion. always Arte et Labore[/p][/quote]what you need is to empty ewood for a few weeks and and the away matches and watch how they put it up for sale.....unfortunate ly too many woevers fans are not willing to unite....you should take the LFC as an inspirational not one fan wanted tom and jerry in charge in the end it went to the high court but the fans won....take heed and execute! BlackburnEyes

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