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Appleton rues Blackburn Rovers' missed opportunity
10:18pm Wednesday 13th March 2013 in Football
By Andy Cryer, Blackburn Rovers reporter
BLACKBURN Rovers boss Michael Appleton admitted his devastation as Blackburn Rovers missed out on an FA Cup semi final at Wembley with defeat to Millwall in a quarter final replay at Ewood Park tonight.
Danny Shittu’s 42nd-minute header gave Millwall a 1-0 win over a disappointing Rovers side, who were booed at the final whistle by a crowd of just 8,635.
The Lions will now face Wigan in the semi finals at Wembley next month.
Appleton was left disappointed with the defeat but praised his side’s character.
He said: “You can only imagine the atmosphere after the game. It was difficult to lose how we did to a set play, that makes it even harder to take.
“Our lads gave everything tonight, I couldn’t ask any more for effort or desire but it just wasn’t to be.
“Maybe it wasn’t a corner for the goal but we had to deal with it and we didn’t.
“We’ve lost out on an opportunity that maybe none of us will get again.”
Comments(125)
bluebud
says...
10:28pm Wed 13 Mar 13
admit some players gave it all but if Dunn was only 70% fit and he got man of the match??
Don't want to see Pedersen playing again.
Don't want to see Pedersen playing again.
peely
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10:31pm Wed 13 Mar 13
"Our lads gave everything tonight ". Have you ever heard such crap ? What planet is this guy on ? Not only does he look like Kean he,s even starting to sound like him!
Make no mistake this guy will take Rovers down - Doomed !
Make no mistake this guy will take Rovers down - Doomed !
nil bye mouth
says...
10:33pm Wed 13 Mar 13
David dunn in tears absolutely fantastic HA HA HA HA no wembley for T`rovers HA HA HA CLUELESS CLASSLESS LAUGHING STOCK OF A CLUB HA HA boo hoo ha ha ha
noddy57
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10:35pm Wed 13 Mar 13
lm sorry guys but you really need to wake up,,appleton will take us further down,,derek shaw has a lot to answer for ,,get gary bowyer back in charge,,and only then at the end of the season appoint a proven manager,,but the venkys will have to pay up front,,but please please get rid of shaw and appleton,,or its the end of our dream and certainly the venkys too,
Dukes
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10:36pm Wed 13 Mar 13
It really hurts this result. David Dunn is tears says it lot i feel for him, he had a better game. Appleton and the board members who brought him in should be blame and time venkys got rid of them all of them.
Gutted we will not go to WEMBLEY.
Gutted we will not go to WEMBLEY.
skelbo
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10:37pm Wed 13 Mar 13
Did he watch the same match as everyone else did or is he a few sandwiches short of a picnic? Like i said in other post shower of **** think the fans could have played better than what we put out least we'd have passion and commitment
Leebo004
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10:37pm Wed 13 Mar 13
He is an absolute joke!!!! What was his record at Blackpool??? Shaw,Agnew, you have employed another idiot!!! Do us all a favour and leave our club, you haven't got a clue. Appleton and his board have driven this club as low as we ever thought it could get, and enough is enough!!!!
Leebo004
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10:38pm Wed 13 Mar 13
noddy57 wrote:Well said, bowyer is the man!! And shaw needs to go!!
lm sorry guys but you really need to wake up,,appleton will take us further down,,derek shaw has a lot to answer for ,,get gary bowyer back in charge,,and only then at the end of the season appoint a proven manager,,but the venkys will have to pay up front,,but please please get rid of shaw and appleton,,or its the end of our dream and certainly the venkys too,
hornbypeggy
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10:40pm Wed 13 Mar 13
just when theres a glimmer of something half decent the bloody disappointment strikes again what the hell can we do, the ultimate disaster is upon us this weekend
Stone Island:
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10:42pm Wed 13 Mar 13
“Our lads gave everything tonight, I couldn’t ask any more for effort or desire but it just wasn’t to be".
If that is the best Appleton can get from these players, then he needs getting rid of, ASAP. Because another 10 performances like that, and we WILL go down.
If that is the best Appleton can get from these players, then he needs getting rid of, ASAP. Because another 10 performances like that, and we WILL go down.
stevo42
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10:44pm Wed 13 Mar 13
we are doomed i tell you doomed
merlinrabbit
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10:46pm Wed 13 Mar 13
Did we ever think it could get worse than Keans era, Berg? Tonight should be proof to anybody that all is not well. Long balls straight down the defenders throats, no midfield pace, no passing ability, Rhodes not involved. Utter tripe and Appleton looked lost for words after. Well out of his depth. Murphys wife on twitter telling rovers fans they don't know the half of it. Those players have been dragged down to a low level. League 1beckons. Even Savage going mad about Appleton
DudleyRover
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10:48pm Wed 13 Mar 13
Todays defeat was difficult to take, but I can honestly see the dingles beating us Sunday which i never thought i'd say or believe and thats going to be unbearable, they probably actually go into the game as favourites which shows how low we've fell. The rovers could be 3 points off relegation come the weekend, and don't think we could ever recover from successive relegations
Riverside 7
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10:48pm Wed 13 Mar 13
Just got back from Ewood – absolutely gutted.
Appleton’s must be tactically inept.
Everyone in the crowd could see that the Millwall central defenders (and Danny Shittu in particular) were winning everything in the air yet we continued to pump more and more high balls into their box.
Why is he selecting players who are not fit?
Only a few weeks ago he was telling us that our squad was far too big.
I felt sorry for Dunny who ran himself into the ground but where do we go from here?
That is just 2 goals scored in the past 7 games and both of them came in the same game against Peterborough when we were 3 down after 27 minutes.
The pressure is on Appleton now to deliver for the Burnley game.
If we lose that I dread to think what will happen.
Relegation is edging closer and closer.
Appleton’s must be tactically inept.
Everyone in the crowd could see that the Millwall central defenders (and Danny Shittu in particular) were winning everything in the air yet we continued to pump more and more high balls into their box.
Why is he selecting players who are not fit?
Only a few weeks ago he was telling us that our squad was far too big.
I felt sorry for Dunny who ran himself into the ground but where do we go from here?
That is just 2 goals scored in the past 7 games and both of them came in the same game against Peterborough when we were 3 down after 27 minutes.
The pressure is on Appleton now to deliver for the Burnley game.
If we lose that I dread to think what will happen.
Relegation is edging closer and closer.
MxMave
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10:48pm Wed 13 Mar 13
You have to realise at some point Appleton has destroyed our attacking threat entirely. He stands on the touchline silent for 90mins, he fails to realise when players are absolutely knackered, his subs are always too little too late, he dosent realise were not strong enough to play longball, he's ruining JRs career, he has absoluely no charisma, no experience, the fans never wanted him - brag said they'd protest of he was appointed. He is yet to make a tactical switch which has ced the game, and keeps Nuno Gomez and goodwillie out of games when the alternatives are Forrester and dj Campbell. He totally fails to see that we don't press teams enough when thier in possession and we rarely commit more than 2 players to the box when we attack. We need to stick with a manager for the longterm and let them build a squad but this isnt that guy. Venkys must shell out for a proven experienced manager before we drop into total oblivion.
handyamBRFC
says...
10:51pm Wed 13 Mar 13
Poor
poor team
poor tactics
poor management
poor midfield yet again
MA.... the problem with....!!
'' A study of Neanderthal skulls suggests that they went extinct because they had larger eyes than our species.
As a result, more of their brain was devoted to seeing in the long, dark nights in Europe, at the expense of high-level processing. ''
Its quite obvious MA cant do it in the long run for BRFC....!
MA can def. see in the long dreary dark night's with his big bulging eyes which is obvious but can he see us through.....!!!!
but the vital question is can he process the info out there which is plain to see for all and come up with an action plan and see us through to the end of this season and beyond....!
I doubt it.....!!!
thats 7 defeats already and counting.
MA is a gonner if we lose against Burnley....!!
A new set of youngish, hard working, physically fit, skillfull Midfielders required at BRFC.
what do you think...?????
2 great servants will have to Retire.
Pederson is just too slow PLZ retire
Dunn played well tonight but def in his last season and well be lucky if he plays a couple of games.
sorry is just too fat...PLZ retire..!
Hanley is slow but tries his utmost to do a decent job.
but not good enough for long term.
His thinking is also slow and hes simply not good enough as a 1st team player but ok to have in BRFC squad.
Lowe is slow slow but tries his utmost
best & should be ok as a squad member and occasional sub but not 1st team material in my view.
Marcus olson is like a fairy lightweight
only need to blow on him and he falls
Murthy, Etuhu, Orr, Givet, Robinson
and any other causing BRFC issues should leave asap...PLZ
so we can buy players who will play for the BRFC badge....!
not just here for money....!!
Dann is not the ideal captain
Infact we have no captain at BRFC
hence we need to find a strong central defensive partner for Dann
who should be a capable central defender & could be a potential captain.
and
a midfield general or 2 who we need as leaders in the middle as thats our problem area and a capable ball winning captain in the centre should sort things out.....for sure...!!
what do you think...!!!!
poor team
poor tactics
poor management
poor midfield yet again
MA.... the problem with....!!
'' A study of Neanderthal skulls suggests that they went extinct because they had larger eyes than our species.
As a result, more of their brain was devoted to seeing in the long, dark nights in Europe, at the expense of high-level processing. ''
Its quite obvious MA cant do it in the long run for BRFC....!
MA can def. see in the long dreary dark night's with his big bulging eyes which is obvious but can he see us through.....!!!!
but the vital question is can he process the info out there which is plain to see for all and come up with an action plan and see us through to the end of this season and beyond....!
I doubt it.....!!!
thats 7 defeats already and counting.
MA is a gonner if we lose against Burnley....!!
A new set of youngish, hard working, physically fit, skillfull Midfielders required at BRFC.
what do you think...?????
2 great servants will have to Retire.
Pederson is just too slow PLZ retire
Dunn played well tonight but def in his last season and well be lucky if he plays a couple of games.
sorry is just too fat...PLZ retire..!
Hanley is slow but tries his utmost to do a decent job.
but not good enough for long term.
His thinking is also slow and hes simply not good enough as a 1st team player but ok to have in BRFC squad.
Lowe is slow slow but tries his utmost
best & should be ok as a squad member and occasional sub but not 1st team material in my view.
Marcus olson is like a fairy lightweight
only need to blow on him and he falls
Murthy, Etuhu, Orr, Givet, Robinson
and any other causing BRFC issues should leave asap...PLZ
so we can buy players who will play for the BRFC badge....!
not just here for money....!!
Dann is not the ideal captain
Infact we have no captain at BRFC
hence we need to find a strong central defensive partner for Dann
who should be a capable central defender & could be a potential captain.
and
a midfield general or 2 who we need as leaders in the middle as thats our problem area and a capable ball winning captain in the centre should sort things out.....for sure...!!
what do you think...!!!!
MatthewCA
says...
11:00pm Wed 13 Mar 13
Pathatic display at the center. No coordination with midfeild and forward. Big gap and loose control in box.
get rid of Dunn,Pedersen,Orr,Mu
rphy. Ollsson brothers is very angry and forget to get control on ball. King lost the pace, only once he took his legs to run, otherwise he is very cool and quiet in the pitch.
We need a creative - impact player in the center like Rochina or Kazim
I feel the absence of Rochina/Kazim/Formic
a is creating a big difference in the team. needed improved players in place of them.
Another 10 games - we need to buckle up now.
get rid of Dunn,Pedersen,Orr,Mu
rphy. Ollsson brothers is very angry and forget to get control on ball. King lost the pace, only once he took his legs to run, otherwise he is very cool and quiet in the pitch.
We need a creative - impact player in the center like Rochina or Kazim
I feel the absence of Rochina/Kazim/Formic
a is creating a big difference in the team. needed improved players in place of them.
Another 10 games - we need to buckle up now.
Tatts
says...
11:03pm Wed 13 Mar 13
There's a long list of managers that we could have employed this season with proven track records in the championship - McCarthy, Bruce, Billy Davies, Ian Holloway, O'Driscoll etc but instead we go for two managers who each had a poor track record in management. Most championship clubs have been battering Milwall recently and yet we make them look like a strong side. Burnley are truly awful but I can't see us creating chances against them. It looks to me like Appleton's defensive mindset has now completely stifled the fairly limited attacking ability that we had anyway.
flowersorseaman?
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11:03pm Wed 13 Mar 13
bluebud wrote:Wow, what did Pedersen do wrong tonight, he was asked to play centre mid in a very hectic midfield and he was everywhere. The problem is the managers inisitence on playing 2 out and out strikers and leaving us a man short in midfield, week in week out. MGP put a shif in tonight and I thank him for that. What both him and Dunny needed was another body in there so thayt could play a bit further up the pitch, but as usual we went with 2 isolated strikers, pinning all our hopes on a defensive error. That said with no option at right back other than Lowe, Murphy (as requested by the majority of Rovers fans) relegated to his living room couch, Williamson and Bentley injured, Jones cup tied, Rochina and Rosado loaned out and Vuckevic released, who the hell else could we have played there? Givet?
admit some players gave it all but if Dunn was only 70% fit and he got man of the match??
Don't want to see Pedersen playing again.
michaelharbron
says...
11:03pm Wed 13 Mar 13
Appleton is sounding more and more like the Klown by the game and the performance's on the pitch are eerily similar too, we got lulled into a false dawn and then beat Arsenal in the Cup, The Klown beat a poor Liverpool team and few other results then all down hill.
Whatever happens this season one thing is clear the football side of 'our' club need completely gutting and rebuilding.
Whatever happens this season one thing is clear the football side of 'our' club need completely gutting and rebuilding.
noddy57
says...
11:06pm Wed 13 Mar 13
A Darener wrote:we have to,,gary bowyer,,,now before l kill myself,
Could we go for a world record...six managers in one season!
Top10StillOn
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11:10pm Wed 13 Mar 13
You can blame Kean, you can blame Berg, you can blame Appleton.
You can blame Singh, Shaw, Agnew, agents, Hendry.
You can blame Murphy, Etuhu, Dann, Pedersen etc etc.
And if you do you would undoubtedly be right to some degree. But I have said on here in my occasional posts as have others this is all the fault of - THE OWNERS.
They have appointed the inept managers, they got rid of a decent and well respected manager who had us in mid Premier. They have caused the loss of one of the most respected boardrooms in football in Williams etc. They have employed incompetent replacements.
They have got rid off one player after another (Jones, Samba, Nelsen, Kalinic,Nzonzi,Bunn,
Rochina,Vucevic,Hoil
ett,Roberts,Salgado,
Emerton etc) who although not all word beaters were certainly more than capable of holding a mid Premier position and needless to say would be more than able in the Championship. They have pocketed millions in transfer fees.
They have sold and sold to save wages. They have signed players who now have us 6pts from the relegation zone. They have failed to provide funds(and never will) to buy quality replacements to undo the damage done in such a short space of time.
Their actions have caused attendances to evaporate.
Why are they here???????????
You can blame Singh, Shaw, Agnew, agents, Hendry.
You can blame Murphy, Etuhu, Dann, Pedersen etc etc.
And if you do you would undoubtedly be right to some degree. But I have said on here in my occasional posts as have others this is all the fault of - THE OWNERS.
They have appointed the inept managers, they got rid of a decent and well respected manager who had us in mid Premier. They have caused the loss of one of the most respected boardrooms in football in Williams etc. They have employed incompetent replacements.
They have got rid off one player after another (Jones, Samba, Nelsen, Kalinic,Nzonzi,Bunn,
Rochina,Vucevic,Hoil
ett,Roberts,Salgado,
Emerton etc) who although not all word beaters were certainly more than capable of holding a mid Premier position and needless to say would be more than able in the Championship. They have pocketed millions in transfer fees.
They have sold and sold to save wages. They have signed players who now have us 6pts from the relegation zone. They have failed to provide funds(and never will) to buy quality replacements to undo the damage done in such a short space of time.
Their actions have caused attendances to evaporate.
Why are they here???????????
Sportivo
says...
11:10pm Wed 13 Mar 13
Gutted. Rovers went out of the FA Cup with a whimper tonight, and the players and manager should be ashamed of such a pitiful performance. 90 minutes from a Wembley semi-final and we muster up a mere 4 shots on target. The players showed no quality and little commitment. They looked unfit and unsure what to do with the ball when they had it, and the tactics were non-existent. The season is now effectively over after the Burnley game on Sunday.
As bad as I feel about it, I really do feel for David Dunn. The man bleeds 'blue and white' and he was the only Rovers player who really looked like he gave a **** and gave his all. He really wanted Wembley and it showed. The other players badly let him and the fans down.
Away from the team. That was a pitiful attendance for an FA Cup Q-F. As bad as the season has been this was a chance to get behind the blues. Where were you all?
As bad as I feel about it, I really do feel for David Dunn. The man bleeds 'blue and white' and he was the only Rovers player who really looked like he gave a **** and gave his all. He really wanted Wembley and it showed. The other players badly let him and the fans down.
Away from the team. That was a pitiful attendance for an FA Cup Q-F. As bad as the season has been this was a chance to get behind the blues. Where were you all?
Road Runner Road Runner
says...
11:11pm Wed 13 Mar 13
Carry on with this caper and relegation is a real possibility under this farce that I've never witnessed on this scale down at the good ship Ewood.
That tonight was shameful which ever way one wishes to dress it up.
I believe Appleton as lost the dressing room with his numbingly cowardly approach to games ?
Let these meek b'trds roll over on Sunday at their peril !
Dunny was the only player tonight with any pride for his club.
Shockingly inept.
What the chuff is Appleton on about ?
Arte et labore
That tonight was shameful which ever way one wishes to dress it up.
I believe Appleton as lost the dressing room with his numbingly cowardly approach to games ?
Let these meek b'trds roll over on Sunday at their peril !
Dunny was the only player tonight with any pride for his club.
Shockingly inept.
What the chuff is Appleton on about ?
Arte et labore
dallydally
says...
11:13pm Wed 13 Mar 13
That was a crap performance by most of the team tonight. I can cope with it if there's effort and no success but there was no commitment. They won pretty much every second ball and clearly wanted it more than we did. Rovers remain in deep trouble and for me Appleton is not the man to turn it round. I say that simply because we'd see players responding to him even if they didn't have the skill etc. No evidence for me; get rid and rebuild in the summer otherwise we will be in deep doo doo if we aren't already. Sad days
maltese blue n white
says...
11:15pm Wed 13 Mar 13
We were dire... Millwall played us off the park.... MA has a lot to answer for.
noddy57
says...
11:16pm Wed 13 Mar 13
listen you guys,,,,,appleton is clueless as is the guy who appointed him,,both oit asap, because believe you me it can get m,uch worse,,tonighjt we got beat by a very poor side ,,so what does that say about us, /come on wake up,,
merlinrabbit
says...
11:23pm Wed 13 Mar 13
nil bye mouth wrote:It comes from being a fan of a club. You won't understand it as you're always numb from those hysteria tablets you take
David dunn in tears absolutely fantastic HA HA HA HA no wembley for T`rovers HA HA HA CLUELESS CLASSLESS LAUGHING STOCK OF A CLUB HA HA boo hoo ha ha ha
handyamBRFC
says...
11:26pm Wed 13 Mar 13
smell the coffee...!!
Poor
poor team
poor tactics
poor management
poor midfield yet again
MA.... the problem with....!!
'' A study of Neanderthal skulls suggests that they went extinct because they had larger eyes than our species.
As a result, more of their brain was devoted to seeing in the long, dark nights in Europe, at the expense of high-level processing. ''
Its quite obvious MA cant do it in the long run for BRFC....!
MA can def. see in the long dreary dark night's with his big bulging eyes which is obvious but can he see us through.....!!!!
but the vital question is can he process the info out there which is plain to see for all and come up with an action plan and see us through to the end of this season and beyond....!
I doubt it.....!!!
thats 7 defeats already and counting.
MA is a gonner if we lose against Burnley....!!
MA is an expert at draws..!
check the stats....! sh...te..!
we cant have this at BRFC,
sorry see this season out
or let him go....!! & start afresh...!
and we need a new proper manager
and new midfielders...!!!
get rid of the elderly OAPs
its a young mans game...!!!
A new set of youngish, hard working, physically fit, skillfull Midfielders required at BRFC.
what do you think...?????
2 great servants will have to Retire.
Pederson is just too slow PLZ retire
Dunn played well tonight but def in his last season and well be lucky if he plays a couple of games.
sorry is just too fat...PLZ retire..!
but Dunny should play v burnley.
cos hes a local lad with pride.
this will be his - DD- Cup final
and ours of course...!!!
The Burnley game will define our season.....!!
Hanley is slow but tries his utmost to do a decent job.
but not good enough for long term.
His thinking is also slow and hes simply not good enough as a 1st team player but ok to have in BRFC squad.
Lowe is slow but tries his utmost
& should be ok as a squad member and occasional sub but not 1st team material in my view.
Marcus olson is like a fairy lightweight
only need to blow on him and he falls
Past it players ...plz Just GO...!!!
Murthy, Etuhu, Orr, Givet, Robinson
and any other causing BRFC issues should leave asap...PLZ
so we can buy players who will play for the BRFC badge....!
not just here for money....!!
Dann is not the ideal captain
In fact we have no captain at BRFC
hence we need to find a strong central defensive partner for Dann
who should be a capable central defender & hopefully be a potential captain.
and
a midfield general or 2 who we need as leaders in the middle as that's our problem area and a capable ball winning captain in the center should sort things out.....for sure...!!
what do you think...!!!!
Poor
poor team
poor tactics
poor management
poor midfield yet again
MA.... the problem with....!!
'' A study of Neanderthal skulls suggests that they went extinct because they had larger eyes than our species.
As a result, more of their brain was devoted to seeing in the long, dark nights in Europe, at the expense of high-level processing. ''
Its quite obvious MA cant do it in the long run for BRFC....!
MA can def. see in the long dreary dark night's with his big bulging eyes which is obvious but can he see us through.....!!!!
but the vital question is can he process the info out there which is plain to see for all and come up with an action plan and see us through to the end of this season and beyond....!
I doubt it.....!!!
thats 7 defeats already and counting.
MA is a gonner if we lose against Burnley....!!
MA is an expert at draws..!
check the stats....! sh...te..!
we cant have this at BRFC,
sorry see this season out
or let him go....!! & start afresh...!
and we need a new proper manager
and new midfielders...!!!
get rid of the elderly OAPs
its a young mans game...!!!
A new set of youngish, hard working, physically fit, skillfull Midfielders required at BRFC.
what do you think...?????
2 great servants will have to Retire.
Pederson is just too slow PLZ retire
Dunn played well tonight but def in his last season and well be lucky if he plays a couple of games.
sorry is just too fat...PLZ retire..!
but Dunny should play v burnley.
cos hes a local lad with pride.
this will be his - DD- Cup final
and ours of course...!!!
The Burnley game will define our season.....!!
Hanley is slow but tries his utmost to do a decent job.
but not good enough for long term.
His thinking is also slow and hes simply not good enough as a 1st team player but ok to have in BRFC squad.
Lowe is slow but tries his utmost
& should be ok as a squad member and occasional sub but not 1st team material in my view.
Marcus olson is like a fairy lightweight
only need to blow on him and he falls
Past it players ...plz Just GO...!!!
Murthy, Etuhu, Orr, Givet, Robinson
and any other causing BRFC issues should leave asap...PLZ
so we can buy players who will play for the BRFC badge....!
not just here for money....!!
Dann is not the ideal captain
In fact we have no captain at BRFC
hence we need to find a strong central defensive partner for Dann
who should be a capable central defender & hopefully be a potential captain.
and
a midfield general or 2 who we need as leaders in the middle as that's our problem area and a capable ball winning captain in the center should sort things out.....for sure...!!
what do you think...!!!!
vicn1956
says...
11:29pm Wed 13 Mar 13
Sam could be free in the summer!
Biggest problem? THE OWNERS.
Where were you all? Sick to the back teeth of the slow death of a well run PREMIER CLUB by idiots and being told to shut up by-
clueless owners-
Anderson-
shaw-
agnew-
managers-
players-
stewards-
"supporters"-
the give the manager time brigade-
people on here being called plastic supporters + worse for not legitimising them all by attending + giving venkys ££££s.
That's just for starters!
WAKE UP. IT'S ALMOST TOO LATE.
The problems haven't gone away. It will get worse.
I don't care if you sl** me off. You reveal yourself when you can't debate without resorting to crudities.
Biggest problem? THE OWNERS.
Where were you all? Sick to the back teeth of the slow death of a well run PREMIER CLUB by idiots and being told to shut up by-
clueless owners-
Anderson-
shaw-
agnew-
managers-
players-
stewards-
"supporters"-
the give the manager time brigade-
people on here being called plastic supporters + worse for not legitimising them all by attending + giving venkys ££££s.
That's just for starters!
WAKE UP. IT'S ALMOST TOO LATE.
The problems haven't gone away. It will get worse.
I don't care if you sl** me off. You reveal yourself when you can't debate without resorting to crudities.
vicn1956
says...
11:31pm Wed 13 Mar 13
Yes I'm annoyed at this new low and fearful at how low we wil go!
A Rover 45 years and over
says...
11:37pm Wed 13 Mar 13
MA needs to completely re-think his strategy and have a plan B in games not just start off with one style of play it to the end come what may. For me I enjoyed seeing Gomez come on tonight at half time his passing and awareness is shear class and we need some one of that quality up front. He keeps himself in good shape and you can tell he has been a top player and still is at this level. You still have to have people who can create a bit of magic now and again and we seem to have taken that out of the team at the moment. David Dunn did provide some quality in midfield at times though even if he isn't 100% fit.
JPainter90
says...
11:37pm Wed 13 Mar 13
Sportivo wrote:Agree completely.
Gutted. Rovers went out of the FA Cup with a whimper tonight, and the players and manager should be ashamed of such a pitiful performance. 90 minutes from a Wembley semi-final and we muster up a mere 4 shots on target. The players showed no quality and little commitment. They looked unfit and unsure what to do with the ball when they had it, and the tactics were non-existent. The season is now effectively over after the Burnley game on Sunday.
As bad as I feel about it, I really do feel for David Dunn. The man bleeds 'blue and white' and he was the only Rovers player who really looked like he gave a **** and gave his all. He really wanted Wembley and it showed. The other players badly let him and the fans down.
Away from the team. That was a pitiful attendance for an FA Cup Q-F. As bad as the season has been this was a chance to get behind the blues. Where were you all?
burnleyglentoran
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11:40pm Wed 13 Mar 13
News just in......News just in......
B*******d Rovers announce new shirt sponsor - " SO BIZ "
B*******d Rovers announce new shirt sponsor - " SO BIZ "
OnePostThenTheOther
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12:04am Thu 14 Mar 13
Sportivo wrote:Couldn't be arsed to make and pay foe the 500 mile trip to watch the predictable dismal performance and result.
Gutted. Rovers went out of the FA Cup with a whimper tonight, and the players and manager should be ashamed of such a pitiful performance. 90 minutes from a Wembley semi-final and we muster up a mere 4 shots on target. The players showed no quality and little commitment. They looked unfit and unsure what to do with the ball when they had it, and the tactics were non-existent. The season is now effectively over after the Burnley game on Sunday.
As bad as I feel about it, I really do feel for David Dunn. The man bleeds 'blue and white' and he was the only Rovers player who really looked like he gave a **** and gave his all. He really wanted Wembley and it showed. The other players badly let him and the fans down.
Away from the team. That was a pitiful attendance for an FA Cup Q-F. As bad as the season has been this was a chance to get behind the blues. Where were you all?
As for poor David maybe he could turn to Steve Bruce for some words of comfort.
Is anybody really surprised by tonight's charade and result? Venkys have killed the club stone dead.
J.C - Rishton
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12:11am Thu 14 Mar 13
peely wrote:I think MA is on "planet KEAN" !!!!!!!
"Our lads gave everything tonight ". Have you ever heard such crap ? What planet is this guy on ? Not only does he look like Kean he,s even starting to sound like him!
Make no mistake this guy will take Rovers down - Doomed !
J.C - Rishton
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12:23am Thu 14 Mar 13
Top10StillOn wrote:Spot on - infact they have totally DESTROYED the club, from playing staff to corporate sponsors to ordinary fans like you and me - and yet you still get some muppets on here saying "Venkys arnt too bad" or "Venkys have just been badly advised" - THEY ARE THE OWNERS so THEY TAKE RESPONSIBLITY - other people "advise" when you own a business - the ultimate desision and responsability is yours and yours alone!!
You can blame Kean, you can blame Berg, you can blame Appleton.
You can blame Singh, Shaw, Agnew, agents, Hendry.
You can blame Murphy, Etuhu, Dann, Pedersen etc etc.
And if you do you would undoubtedly be right to some degree. But I have said on here in my occasional posts as have others this is all the fault of - THE OWNERS.
They have appointed the inept managers, they got rid of a decent and well respected manager who had us in mid Premier. They have caused the loss of one of the most respected boardrooms in football in Williams etc. They have employed incompetent replacements.
They have got rid off one player after another (Jones, Samba, Nelsen, Kalinic,Nzonzi,Bunn,
Rochina,Vucevic,Hoil
ett,Roberts,Salgado,
Emerton etc) who although not all word beaters were certainly more than capable of holding a mid Premier position and needless to say would be more than able in the Championship. They have pocketed millions in transfer fees.
They have sold and sold to save wages. They have signed players who now have us 6pts from the relegation zone. They have failed to provide funds(and never will) to buy quality replacements to undo the damage done in such a short space of time.
Their actions have caused attendances to evaporate.
Why are they here???????????
Venkys - don't ever darken Ewoods doors with your scummy shaddows ever again - you may own the place but you will NEVER be part of it nor will you EVER be welcome there - do the decent thing and GIVE the club away (you have mis-managed it so badly that even you, greedy ba$tards as you are, must realise that it is now be worthless).
gaylegarnerkennedy
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12:30am Thu 14 Mar 13
Totally agree withthe above comments, Souness is the man. VENKYS OUT
SOUNESS IN - simple.
SOUNESS IN - simple.
gaylegarnerkennedy
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12:36am Thu 14 Mar 13
Souness - he'd sort our midfield out for sure, once he's got us promoted again and wins us another cup you'll realise what Im on about - SOUNESS IN
noddy57
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12:38am Thu 14 Mar 13
no excuses appleton go back to pompey or anywhere but not my club,,
Stone Island:
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12:39am Thu 14 Mar 13
gaylegarnerkennedy wrote:Do you not think he's been out of the game too long?
Souness - he'd sort our midfield out for sure, once he's got us promoted again and wins us another cup you'll realise what Im on about - SOUNESS IN
blazerafe
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12:39am Thu 14 Mar 13
Its time for the players to stand up and be counted, some of them dont even deserve to be on the same pitch as David Dunn. I think that each and every player for its failures over these past 2 season should give at least one or two weeks of their wages to charity and do something good for someone else, because they sure as hell have not earned it.
After all the **** that has gone on in these past few seasons this was their one chance to make amends and give us a moment to be proud of and once again they manage to fail horribly with an abysmal performance.
Venky's and Kean screwed us over yes, but we cannot keep using that as an excuse. I wasn't willing to pay 18 to watch a team i have no faith in especially not after the Bolton game and i certainly wont want to watch us lose on Sunday because that's all that will happen.
We needed at least 8 players in through the transfer and loan windows and we have not got it so which ever fans have been saying that we have been financially backed need to go back and check the record.
And finally, i am disappointed in this so called 'action group' it has been silent in what is our hour of need, we the fans need to bunch round and some how get it into the heads of our players via social media or even voicing our opinions at the matches that they are ruining lives and tradition. As much as we all hated Kean he got wins on the board despite pathetic performances and Bowyer did an amazing job in the few games he was in charge, so they can perform when they want, now we just need them to listen......Maybe its time for us to stand up and be counted!!!!
After all the **** that has gone on in these past few seasons this was their one chance to make amends and give us a moment to be proud of and once again they manage to fail horribly with an abysmal performance.
Venky's and Kean screwed us over yes, but we cannot keep using that as an excuse. I wasn't willing to pay 18 to watch a team i have no faith in especially not after the Bolton game and i certainly wont want to watch us lose on Sunday because that's all that will happen.
We needed at least 8 players in through the transfer and loan windows and we have not got it so which ever fans have been saying that we have been financially backed need to go back and check the record.
And finally, i am disappointed in this so called 'action group' it has been silent in what is our hour of need, we the fans need to bunch round and some how get it into the heads of our players via social media or even voicing our opinions at the matches that they are ruining lives and tradition. As much as we all hated Kean he got wins on the board despite pathetic performances and Bowyer did an amazing job in the few games he was in charge, so they can perform when they want, now we just need them to listen......Maybe its time for us to stand up and be counted!!!!
gaylegarnerkennedy
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12:48am Thu 14 Mar 13
Stone Island: wrote:Maybe but Im sure he'd relish the challenge, he takes no prisoners and if hes still got it the drive...who else?
gaylegarnerkennedy wrote:Do you not think he's been out of the game too long?
Souness - he'd sort our midfield out for sure, once he's got us promoted again and wins us another cup you'll realise what Im on about - SOUNESS IN
gaylegarnerkennedy
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12:58am Thu 14 Mar 13
Brian Cox talks a good game...
noddy57
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12:59am Thu 14 Mar 13
simple,,shaw and appletron out now,,today,,stop pissfarting around lm getting really **** off,
garyintandem
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1:23am Thu 14 Mar 13
The problem is clear.
The soul has been ripped out of our club.
There was no team spirit tonight, no battlers, no-one to take control of the game.
Appleton doesn't have any tactical awareness and frankly we were an utter disgrace tonight.
How can we just surrender when we 90 mins away from Wembley against a dire mid table Championship side, 180 mins away from Europe.
Appleton is a miserable guy with no charisma and has no chance of being a success.
This is the saddest day for a long time and if the 34 years is broken on Sunday then Appletons got to fall on his sword.
The soul has been ripped out of our club.
There was no team spirit tonight, no battlers, no-one to take control of the game.
Appleton doesn't have any tactical awareness and frankly we were an utter disgrace tonight.
How can we just surrender when we 90 mins away from Wembley against a dire mid table Championship side, 180 mins away from Europe.
Appleton is a miserable guy with no charisma and has no chance of being a success.
This is the saddest day for a long time and if the 34 years is broken on Sunday then Appletons got to fall on his sword.
Irish knowledge
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2:27am Thu 14 Mar 13
Right we are in serious trouble. Here is the truth and reality.
1) We no longer have enough fans to sustain our once great club. An attendance of 8k in fa cup q final with a real chance to get to wembley is terrible. Our attendances in league are 13k. Therefore we are headed to become an average championship team with a similar pay scale as Burnley and free bees and loan signings. We already have cheapest tickets and still cant sell out. Now i know blackburn is only a town of 100k in working class area of Uk, so it is understandable that we cant fill our ground. However that just confirms our status as a small championship club without the premier league money.
2) of course fans blame venkys but i would argue that since we got relagated they have tried to rectify things apart from not firing kean straight away. But it seems like people are just going to continue to blame them even though we have spent the most money of any championship side. I would blame the mgt of the club, the board, and the players for this season. I do not blame venky
s for Blackburn losing to milwall.
3) now fans want Appleton out!! He should not have been appointed but we cant fire every manager after a spell of bad results. Now more fans wont return because of Appleton which will prob cause attendance to go even lower. We have had too many managers and i reckon we have prob signed 20 players since relegation which is way too much.
Im starting to wonder if the people of blackburn want a club. Its like they want the club to fail so they can just say i told you so. To have a club with such prestige and history in Blackburn is a great thing. If everyone is going to be so negative the whole time the club is doomed to history.
1) We no longer have enough fans to sustain our once great club. An attendance of 8k in fa cup q final with a real chance to get to wembley is terrible. Our attendances in league are 13k. Therefore we are headed to become an average championship team with a similar pay scale as Burnley and free bees and loan signings. We already have cheapest tickets and still cant sell out. Now i know blackburn is only a town of 100k in working class area of Uk, so it is understandable that we cant fill our ground. However that just confirms our status as a small championship club without the premier league money.
2) of course fans blame venkys but i would argue that since we got relagated they have tried to rectify things apart from not firing kean straight away. But it seems like people are just going to continue to blame them even though we have spent the most money of any championship side. I would blame the mgt of the club, the board, and the players for this season. I do not blame venky
s for Blackburn losing to milwall.
3) now fans want Appleton out!! He should not have been appointed but we cant fire every manager after a spell of bad results. Now more fans wont return because of Appleton which will prob cause attendance to go even lower. We have had too many managers and i reckon we have prob signed 20 players since relegation which is way too much.
Im starting to wonder if the people of blackburn want a club. Its like they want the club to fail so they can just say i told you so. To have a club with such prestige and history in Blackburn is a great thing. If everyone is going to be so negative the whole time the club is doomed to history.
johnny rover
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2:57am Thu 14 Mar 13
As I posted a few days ago (and gained much abuse from the "got to cive him a chance" crowd) MA should have gone before tonight and been replaced by Gary Bowyer for the rest of the season. Tonights performance was as I expected and I expect us to get beaten by Burnley. I know people who know Appleton and speak really highly of him. He is putting in 8am till 8pm days at Brockhall. The players are training harder than with any previous manager this season. He knows he is unlikely to get another management job unless he can turn it round. But he doesn't seem to get it.
1. He got rid of some classy players in Rochina, Formica and Vukovich. He should have kept at least one.
2. He maintains his Hoofball tactics when it is clear it doesn't work.
3. He played 2 in centre mid against Miwall's 3, thinking it doesn't matter if you cut out the midfield by kicking it over their heads. Problem is Danny Shittu who had a great game tonight just as he did in the first leg. It didn't work then and it wasn't going to work tonight.
I don't agree that the players didn't put in a shift. They did. They lack confidence. I am afraid the crowd booing when a pass goes astray makes it much worse. In the second half if they tried to pass to the feet of a team mate and it went wrong they get booed (Pederson in particular). Is it any wonder therefore that they hoof it long?
Afraid Appleton will have to go if we fail lose to Burnley. I'd take a draw if it was on offer.
Relegation battle ensues.
1. He got rid of some classy players in Rochina, Formica and Vukovich. He should have kept at least one.
2. He maintains his Hoofball tactics when it is clear it doesn't work.
3. He played 2 in centre mid against Miwall's 3, thinking it doesn't matter if you cut out the midfield by kicking it over their heads. Problem is Danny Shittu who had a great game tonight just as he did in the first leg. It didn't work then and it wasn't going to work tonight.
I don't agree that the players didn't put in a shift. They did. They lack confidence. I am afraid the crowd booing when a pass goes astray makes it much worse. In the second half if they tried to pass to the feet of a team mate and it went wrong they get booed (Pederson in particular). Is it any wonder therefore that they hoof it long?
Afraid Appleton will have to go if we fail lose to Burnley. I'd take a draw if it was on offer.
Relegation battle ensues.
Roverthere
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4:37am Thu 14 Mar 13
As bad as we are, I still believe we will beat Burnley with ease on Sunday.
Come on you blues!
Come on you blues!
spike t
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6:21am Thu 14 Mar 13
Dunny 70%fit? Always prone to exaggeration you lot!
Rovervision23
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7:55am Thu 14 Mar 13
Burnley fans eat bananas with their feet....
We are shockingly bad...
But never as bad as them.
We are shockingly bad...
But never as bad as them.
aaman1
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8:14am Thu 14 Mar 13
Doomed we are,down we go again, sad days.
dangerous dave
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8:15am Thu 14 Mar 13
Everyone who attended thıs match should be gıven a full refund under the Sale of Goods Act as Manager and Players not fıt for purpose!!!!
As for Shaw Agnew Sıngh Venkys Hendry Coar what can you say taken thıs club back lıght years !!!!!!!!!!!!!
OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM
As for Shaw Agnew Sıngh Venkys Hendry Coar what can you say taken thıs club back lıght years !!!!!!!!!!!!!
OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM
intothevalley
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8:16am Thu 14 Mar 13
Rovers look like they will end up like Coventry city . In freefall !! No matter who the manager is , first division looks nearly certain . Football in east lancs is awful now , unless you watch your local non league . No high wages , players playing for love of the game in grounds , in some cases , less then 70 people watching , but with a much better atmosphere then ewood park at times . High wages , naff management and trying to keep in the promised land of tv money has ruined football in lancs .
bburnrover
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8:21am Thu 14 Mar 13
Where do we gp from here the management and owners need to take a fresh look at the situation and realise that although they say they want to eradicate mistakes and turn over a new leaf they still show naievity in their appointments we as fans wanted an experienced manager so when are they going to eat humble pie and listen to their fans.
Gaz M
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8:21am Thu 14 Mar 13
Leebo004 wrote:Add Agnew to those two leebo another three Venky stooges
noddy57 wrote:Well said, bowyer is the man!! And shaw needs to go!!
lm sorry guys but you really need to wake up,,appleton will take us further down,,derek shaw has a lot to answer for ,,get gary bowyer back in charge,,and only then at the end of the season appoint a proven manager,,but the venkys will have to pay up front,,but please please get rid of shaw and appleton,,or its the end of our dream and certainly the venkys too,
claret777
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8:24am Thu 14 Mar 13
Poor Blackburn,many of your fans predicted walking this league start of season.How on earth are you going to continue paying these wages to players with the state of your club ?
noddymcleod
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8:27am Thu 14 Mar 13
Money, money, money. Apple is here to run down Rovers for Venkys to pull out, nothing to do with football on the field.
He's just counting the pay cheques and putting out Press Releases that Keano would have been proud of.
The team last night were clueless, without commitment, unfit, some just going through the motions and at the end thoroughly demoralised.
Whatever good will there was to Apple has evaporated, not only among the fans, but the players, too. We'll be lucky to avoid relegation.
He's just counting the pay cheques and putting out Press Releases that Keano would have been proud of.
The team last night were clueless, without commitment, unfit, some just going through the motions and at the end thoroughly demoralised.
Whatever good will there was to Apple has evaporated, not only among the fans, but the players, too. We'll be lucky to avoid relegation.
dansker
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8:29am Thu 14 Mar 13
gaylegarnerkennedy wrote:Yes Souness is the man!!
Stone Island: wrote:Maybe but Im sure he'd relish the challenge, he takes no prisoners and if hes still got it the drive...who else?
gaylegarnerkennedy wrote:Do you not think he's been out of the game too long?
Souness - he'd sort our midfield out for sure, once he's got us promoted again and wins us another cup you'll realise what Im on about - SOUNESS IN
GAZHAY
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8:30am Thu 14 Mar 13
flowersorseaman? wrote:What did Pederson do wrong tonight??????
bluebud wrote: admit some players gave it all but if Dunn was only 70% fit and he got man of the match?? Don't want to see Pedersen playing again.Wow, what did Pedersen do wrong tonight, he was asked to play centre mid in a very hectic midfield and he was everywhere. The problem is the managers inisitence on playing 2 out and out strikers and leaving us a man short in midfield, week in week out. MGP put a shif in tonight and I thank him for that. What both him and Dunny needed was another body in there so thayt could play a bit further up the pitch, but as usual we went with 2 isolated strikers, pinning all our hopes on a defensive error. That said with no option at right back other than Lowe, Murphy (as requested by the majority of Rovers fans) relegated to his living room couch, Williamson and Bentley injured, Jones cup tied, Rochina and Rosado loaned out and Vuckevic released, who the hell else could we have played there? Givet?
Surely you are having a laugh!!!!
Pederson should have been finished at Blackburn 5 years ago, he has zero pace, zero passing ability, zero dead ball knowledge anymore and is wondering round like a lost man. He CAN NOT pass the ball, turns and hoofs it and is completely out of his depth, Grahnted centre mid might not be his ideal position but he has no positions left to play as on the wing he can't do it there either. Sorry but you can't be watching the same Perderson we are all watching.
hasslem hasslem
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8:31am Thu 14 Mar 13
believe me i have tried to stay positive about appleton and the willingness and ability to turn things round at rovers - i have tried to be an 'appy clapper - but if anything things are getting worse!
and as for his post-match of saying that players gave their all last night - come on now - this is back to the days of steve kean - next thing you know he will be telling us we will be working hard on rectifying problems in training.
it doesn't take a genius to realise that every time you pump long balls up - that their big beast at the back will continue to swallow them up.
no shots that their keeper had to save in 180 minutes of football sums rovers up at the moment.
heaven's to betsy - i dread to think how we will show for the derby on sunday (although burnley are dreadful too) - the game only means something to one player - dunny and that he was our best player last night speaks volumes for the rest of the clowns (on and off the field). if the eleven players do not fight tooth and claw on sunday - then they will get dogs at the end.
we know the club is in crisis - we have long time acknowledged that - but all we really want to see is players putting a shift in and showing a bit of thought. none of that was in evidence last night.
be interesting to hear what messrs shaw, agnew and singh have to say.
"promotion, or die trying" - did shebby mean next season from d1?
looks like agnew and shaw want to mould rovers in the image of preston - looks like they are succeeding.
and as for his post-match of saying that players gave their all last night - come on now - this is back to the days of steve kean - next thing you know he will be telling us we will be working hard on rectifying problems in training.
it doesn't take a genius to realise that every time you pump long balls up - that their big beast at the back will continue to swallow them up.
no shots that their keeper had to save in 180 minutes of football sums rovers up at the moment.
heaven's to betsy - i dread to think how we will show for the derby on sunday (although burnley are dreadful too) - the game only means something to one player - dunny and that he was our best player last night speaks volumes for the rest of the clowns (on and off the field). if the eleven players do not fight tooth and claw on sunday - then they will get dogs at the end.
we know the club is in crisis - we have long time acknowledged that - but all we really want to see is players putting a shift in and showing a bit of thought. none of that was in evidence last night.
be interesting to hear what messrs shaw, agnew and singh have to say.
"promotion, or die trying" - did shebby mean next season from d1?
looks like agnew and shaw want to mould rovers in the image of preston - looks like they are succeeding.
wrralrover
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8:34am Thu 14 Mar 13
I travelled over with a naive, yet foolish, open mind. I believed that, with a trip to Wembley on offer, the poor results of late would be put aside and we would outplay lowly Millwall. We played quite well in the first half, dominating and I was quite positive until the goal, then it all went wrong.
During the second half there was one spark of brilliance, when Leon Best ran at the defence, after that we just kept lumping the ball straight onto Danny Shittu's head, I half expected the Millwall crowd to start cheering every time we did it.
I am concerned that if that is the standard of football, with no tactics and no confidence to play the ball on the ground through midfield, then we will suffer at the hands of our six fingered, inter-bred rivals at the end of the M65.
Come on Rovers we must win on Sunday and turn our season round to stay in this league and consolidate ready for a big clear out and proper push for promotion, be it with Appleton or someone else.
RTID
During the second half there was one spark of brilliance, when Leon Best ran at the defence, after that we just kept lumping the ball straight onto Danny Shittu's head, I half expected the Millwall crowd to start cheering every time we did it.
I am concerned that if that is the standard of football, with no tactics and no confidence to play the ball on the ground through midfield, then we will suffer at the hands of our six fingered, inter-bred rivals at the end of the M65.
Come on Rovers we must win on Sunday and turn our season round to stay in this league and consolidate ready for a big clear out and proper push for promotion, be it with Appleton or someone else.
RTID
Angry From Accrington
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8:49am Thu 14 Mar 13
KEAN OUT KNUCKLE DRAGGERS: YOUR CLUB NEEDS YOU BACK!
If you were able to hound out one manager when we were top of the table and cruising towards automatic promotion, I am pretty sure that you could do a decent job of getting this skinned monkey out.
Shaw and Appleton are 2nd Division pedigree whose level of ambition is tempered by the reality of their own ability. They clearly feel uncomfortable around people of higher ability than themselves, and that, unfortunately, means the vast majority of the football community.
It is clear that he has no idea of how to organise and motivate the players and equally clear that they have absolutely no repect for him. Whilst I agree that Pederson and Dunn are looking too tired for this level the REAL worry last night was the commitment and performance of the younger players like Lowe, Hanley, Best and King. They gave nothing for him or us!
If we get rid of Appleton now we will have time to have a new manager in place for the end of the season and a full transfer window to clear out Appleton's yard dogs, Shebby's shambolic inheritance, get Rochina, Formica and Vucevij back and spend some more of our generous owner's money on a defence that can actually, wait for it, defend.
I am dusting off my season ticket and will happily lead the Appleton Out chants on Sunday. It is your duty to join me.
If you were able to hound out one manager when we were top of the table and cruising towards automatic promotion, I am pretty sure that you could do a decent job of getting this skinned monkey out.
Shaw and Appleton are 2nd Division pedigree whose level of ambition is tempered by the reality of their own ability. They clearly feel uncomfortable around people of higher ability than themselves, and that, unfortunately, means the vast majority of the football community.
It is clear that he has no idea of how to organise and motivate the players and equally clear that they have absolutely no repect for him. Whilst I agree that Pederson and Dunn are looking too tired for this level the REAL worry last night was the commitment and performance of the younger players like Lowe, Hanley, Best and King. They gave nothing for him or us!
If we get rid of Appleton now we will have time to have a new manager in place for the end of the season and a full transfer window to clear out Appleton's yard dogs, Shebby's shambolic inheritance, get Rochina, Formica and Vucevij back and spend some more of our generous owner's money on a defence that can actually, wait for it, defend.
I am dusting off my season ticket and will happily lead the Appleton Out chants on Sunday. It is your duty to join me.
stick to football
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8:55am Thu 14 Mar 13
That performance last night has probably cost the Club any future it had as a Premiership side.
Entertainment wise very poor unlikely to persuade the missing thousnads back more likely to Put Off a majority of the paying public
Tactics were shocking - after a decent first half heads went down ehen the goal went in - who was marking Shittu for his free header.
Second half it was hoof it high Shittu won every ball Best retreated to the wing why? Rhodes is running on empty and whom can blame him.
Appleton must ask why he let Rochina go - love or loathe him Rochina has the ability to change a game with a flash of quality. Vuckevic should have been released after Thomas was signed. It all sums up the demise at Ewood
Absent owners - it is time to get out while you can- Rovers will never be a marketing tool only a drain on your finances - League One scenario is a doomesday one with low crowds and hghly paid wages.
Appleton should go and buy a big centreforward if he intends to play the high ball game and a combative midfielder to give Dunn & Jones a chance to play
Effortwise I would not criticise the players but boy how we have fallen even since the start of the season
Oh for a John Williams or Tom Finn to sort the club out - it is a disgrace. Dont blame the supporters for the raction at the end of the game - it was frustration mixed with a lost opportunity we will probably never see again
Entertainment wise very poor unlikely to persuade the missing thousnads back more likely to Put Off a majority of the paying public
Tactics were shocking - after a decent first half heads went down ehen the goal went in - who was marking Shittu for his free header.
Second half it was hoof it high Shittu won every ball Best retreated to the wing why? Rhodes is running on empty and whom can blame him.
Appleton must ask why he let Rochina go - love or loathe him Rochina has the ability to change a game with a flash of quality. Vuckevic should have been released after Thomas was signed. It all sums up the demise at Ewood
Absent owners - it is time to get out while you can- Rovers will never be a marketing tool only a drain on your finances - League One scenario is a doomesday one with low crowds and hghly paid wages.
Appleton should go and buy a big centreforward if he intends to play the high ball game and a combative midfielder to give Dunn & Jones a chance to play
Effortwise I would not criticise the players but boy how we have fallen even since the start of the season
Oh for a John Williams or Tom Finn to sort the club out - it is a disgrace. Dont blame the supporters for the raction at the end of the game - it was frustration mixed with a lost opportunity we will probably never see again
owd nick
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9:03am Thu 14 Mar 13
Not read any of the above yet, didn't want to be influenced!
So here's my offering for what it's worth.
The best TEAM won on the night and deserved to, by that I mean that Millwall played as a team and not as a group of individuals.
I couldn't fault the effort of the Rovers players, although there were distinct variations in effort in some cases, it's pretty obvious that some players cannot cope with the pressure and expectation.
I enjoyed watching Best, if he isn't match fit then God help our opponents when he is, and hats off to Dunny who as usual gave everything.
That said, although we didn't boo them off at the end (I can understand why many did) the owners, management team and the players have to realise that the 8,000 that turned up last night are the bulk of the real fans who will support them through thick and thin.
And when the real fans voice their displeasure it's time to listen.
The Burnley game now takes precedence, anything less than a win will be totally unacceptable.
So here's my offering for what it's worth.
The best TEAM won on the night and deserved to, by that I mean that Millwall played as a team and not as a group of individuals.
I couldn't fault the effort of the Rovers players, although there were distinct variations in effort in some cases, it's pretty obvious that some players cannot cope with the pressure and expectation.
I enjoyed watching Best, if he isn't match fit then God help our opponents when he is, and hats off to Dunny who as usual gave everything.
That said, although we didn't boo them off at the end (I can understand why many did) the owners, management team and the players have to realise that the 8,000 that turned up last night are the bulk of the real fans who will support them through thick and thin.
And when the real fans voice their displeasure it's time to listen.
The Burnley game now takes precedence, anything less than a win will be totally unacceptable.
TRUE ROVER
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9:05am Thu 14 Mar 13
The match and attendance just sums up the current apathy and lack of interest, having been a supporter for 58 years I have seen some bad ,but enjoyable times supporting the club, however the curret situation is beyond belief, we have inexperienced owners , management, and the majority are second rate journeyman players , who generally dont give a hoot about the club. I cannot see a short term solution , We need an experienced manager , look at the change of fortunes at Notts Forrest with Billy Davies in charge
I certainly have had enough and will now be arm chair suppoter along with the other 12k that Venkies have lost
I certainly have had enough and will now be arm chair suppoter along with the other 12k that Venkies have lost
TRUE ROVER
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9:05am Thu 14 Mar 13
bb
TRUE ROVER
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9:10am Thu 14 Mar 13
after 58 years have now had enough with current novice owners / management and journeyman players, will now join the other 12k armchair supporters, and find other puruits , i just dont seem to care anymore win draw or for the most part loose. Had heart of club ripped appart. Jack will be spinning in his grave , and shame on the Walker Family for allow these idiots along with kean to take charge in the first place, by the way where is the other idiot shebbie Shing ?/, still drawing wages no doubt, seems also this new PR company are doing a brilliant job Bye bye
Racing Rover
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9:18am Thu 14 Mar 13
Been a Rovers fan since 1953, but the Venky's have ripped the heart out of this club, therefore no heart no life. Sorry Rovers but I'm done!
P888HOW
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9:19am Thu 14 Mar 13
bluebud wrote:David Dunn .was a total class above, the rest of the mess, that Rovers have
admit some players gave it all but if Dunn was only 70% fit and he got man of the match??
Don't want to see Pedersen playing again.
become. Absolute rubbish, clueless passing if you can call it that, more hoof and hope.. Pederson on your bike mate, thanks but good bye.
A new manager and very quick.or Blackburn Rovers are going down..
gleechy
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9:21am Thu 14 Mar 13
Irish knowledge wrote:My goodness you haven't been following football very long have you?
Right we are in serious trouble. Here is the truth and reality.
1) We no longer have enough fans to sustain our once great club. An attendance of 8k in fa cup q final with a real chance to get to wembley is terrible. Our attendances in league are 13k. Therefore we are headed to become an average championship team with a similar pay scale as Burnley and free bees and loan signings. We already have cheapest tickets and still cant sell out. Now i know blackburn is only a town of 100k in working class area of Uk, so it is understandable that we cant fill our ground. However that just confirms our status as a small championship club without the premier league money.
2) of course fans blame venkys but i would argue that since we got relagated they have tried to rectify things apart from not firing kean straight away. But it seems like people are just going to continue to blame them even though we have spent the most money of any championship side. I would blame the mgt of the club, the board, and the players for this season. I do not blame venky
s for Blackburn losing to milwall.
3) now fans want Appleton out!! He should not have been appointed but we cant fire every manager after a spell of bad results. Now more fans wont return because of Appleton which will prob cause attendance to go even lower. We have had too many managers and i reckon we have prob signed 20 players since relegation which is way too much.
Im starting to wonder if the people of blackburn want a club. Its like they want the club to fail so they can just say i told you so. To have a club with such prestige and history in Blackburn is a great thing. If everyone is going to be so negative the whole time the club is doomed to history.
If you try looking any further than Venkys for the problem, you;ve gone too far, and you'll go round in circles until you eventually wind up with Venks being the problem.
Players are unable to play, board members are unable to do their jobs properly, and if you look at some of the shower that they have employed like Shaw and Singh, they would never be able to make a good club even without these restraints.
Football is one of the last things on these self righteous owner's minds. Look no further, the downward spiral will continue until they are history.
burner
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9:30am Thu 14 Mar 13
I was gutted. I was a ST holder who quit in 2011, before Xmas. I have never been near Ewood since.
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I went last night and I wished I hadn't bothered.
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ZERO atmosphere. No chanting. No excitement. Only one player turned up . . . Shitu !! . . . remind you of anyone we froze out and then got rid? Our one outstanding player? (Samba ! )
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I went last night and I wished I hadn't bothered.
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ZERO atmosphere. No chanting. No excitement. Only one player turned up . . . Shitu !! . . . remind you of anyone we froze out and then got rid? Our one outstanding player? (Samba ! )
yyy's1
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9:32am Thu 14 Mar 13
Road Runner says relegation is a possibility, I think it a certainty.We are not capable of beating anybody, the players aren't good enough.
The appointment of Appleton was an old pals act on the part of the P.N.E. men, Shaw and that lifelong rovers fan Paul Agnew.
It's time the fans began shouting for their heads. In the meantime we should change our motto of Arte et labore to CAECI CAECOS DUCENTES I think that is Latin for Blind leading the blind but I'm prepared to be corrected.
The appointment of Appleton was an old pals act on the part of the P.N.E. men, Shaw and that lifelong rovers fan Paul Agnew.
It's time the fans began shouting for their heads. In the meantime we should change our motto of Arte et labore to CAECI CAECOS DUCENTES I think that is Latin for Blind leading the blind but I'm prepared to be corrected.
Angry From Accrington
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9:34am Thu 14 Mar 13
gleechy wrote:Sorry but you are wrong. You HAVE to go back before Venky's to get to the rea cause and that is too few fans paying too little money to support a Premiership Club. That's what persuaded the Walker Trust to sell and they could not get rid quickly enough as soon as the cash was on the table. Admittedly, since then, Venky's have made the mistake of taking advice from Snake Oil Salesman and the only way back is the appointment of an ambitious, straight talking manager, back by a chairman who can manage upwards. Souness and Williams, where are you?
Irish knowledge wrote: Right we are in serious trouble. Here is the truth and reality. 1) We no longer have enough fans to sustain our once great club. An attendance of 8k in fa cup q final with a real chance to get to wembley is terrible. Our attendances in league are 13k. Therefore we are headed to become an average championship team with a similar pay scale as Burnley and free bees and loan signings. We already have cheapest tickets and still cant sell out. Now i know blackburn is only a town of 100k in working class area of Uk, so it is understandable that we cant fill our ground. However that just confirms our status as a small championship club without the premier league money. 2) of course fans blame venkys but i would argue that since we got relagated they have tried to rectify things apart from not firing kean straight away. But it seems like people are just going to continue to blame them even though we have spent the most money of any championship side. I would blame the mgt of the club, the board, and the players for this season. I do not blame venky s for Blackburn losing to milwall. 3) now fans want Appleton out!! He should not have been appointed but we cant fire every manager after a spell of bad results. Now more fans wont return because of Appleton which will prob cause attendance to go even lower. We have had too many managers and i reckon we have prob signed 20 players since relegation which is way too much. Im starting to wonder if the people of blackburn want a club. Its like they want the club to fail so they can just say i told you so. To have a club with such prestige and history in Blackburn is a great thing. If everyone is going to be so negative the whole time the club is doomed to history.My goodness you haven't been following football very long have you? If you try looking any further than Venkys for the problem, you;ve gone too far, and you'll go round in circles until you eventually wind up with Venks being the problem. Players are unable to play, board members are unable to do their jobs properly, and if you look at some of the shower that they have employed like Shaw and Singh, they would never be able to make a good club even without these restraints. Football is one of the last things on these self righteous owner's minds. Look no further, the downward spiral will continue until they are history.
YorkshireRover85
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9:34am Thu 14 Mar 13
Don't get me wrong...I'm not defending recent performances from Appleton or the players. But this disaster is not Appletons fault. We have as he's already said players who aren't prepared to put the shift in for the club. But we have such an unbalanced/injured squad that we have to rely on some of these players to help us out. Yes tactics have been all wrong recently which I admit doesn't bode well for the immediate future, but we need to back Appleton for the next 10 games, because as bad as things are now, if we turn on the team even more we could end up staring oblivion in the face with relegation.
All that really matters is staying in this league this season. FA Cup was a nice run, but a distraction from what is really important.
Me personally, we need to give Appleton and the team backing from now to end of season and starting soon as the final whistle blows on the last day of the season, the club needs to sort out the mess. I believe Appleton should be given the summer to try and clear out all the deadwood and actually bring in proven championship players who will bring more quality and look at how Huddersfield played last season to see how to get even more from Rhodes, who quite frankly with 20+ goals this season with the service he's received is unbelievable.
All that really matters is staying in this league this season. FA Cup was a nice run, but a distraction from what is really important.
Me personally, we need to give Appleton and the team backing from now to end of season and starting soon as the final whistle blows on the last day of the season, the club needs to sort out the mess. I believe Appleton should be given the summer to try and clear out all the deadwood and actually bring in proven championship players who will bring more quality and look at how Huddersfield played last season to see how to get even more from Rhodes, who quite frankly with 20+ goals this season with the service he's received is unbelievable.
leitchy
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9:39am Thu 14 Mar 13
Riverside 7 wrote:Spot on tactically inept!!
Just got back from Ewood – absolutely gutted.
Appleton’s must be tactically inept.
Everyone in the crowd could see that the Millwall central defenders (and Danny Shittu in particular) were winning everything in the air yet we continued to pump more and more high balls into their box.
Why is he selecting players who are not fit?
Only a few weeks ago he was telling us that our squad was far too big.
I felt sorry for Dunny who ran himself into the ground but where do we go from here?
That is just 2 goals scored in the past 7 games and both of them came in the same game against Peterborough when we were 3 down after 27 minutes.
The pressure is on Appleton now to deliver for the Burnley game.
If we lose that I dread to think what will happen.
Relegation is edging closer and closer.
No one else to blame but the manager for this defeat. 1 -11 we had the better side and they all tried especially dunny, but tactically we were useless and that lies with the manager!
They didn't learn a thing from Sundays match and let Shittu win everything in the air including the goal!
Time 4 Appleton to shape up or get out ! Personally I just think he's OUT OF HIS DEPTH !!!
armchair-supporter!
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9:50am Thu 14 Mar 13
Irish knowledge wrote:Someone with common sense! Didn't think they existed on this site after a loss. Spot on.
Right we are in serious trouble. Here is the truth and reality.
1) We no longer have enough fans to sustain our once great club. An attendance of 8k in fa cup q final with a real chance to get to wembley is terrible. Our attendances in league are 13k. Therefore we are headed to become an average championship team with a similar pay scale as Burnley and free bees and loan signings. We already have cheapest tickets and still cant sell out. Now i know blackburn is only a town of 100k in working class area of Uk, so it is understandable that we cant fill our ground. However that just confirms our status as a small championship club without the premier league money.
2) of course fans blame venkys but i would argue that since we got relagated they have tried to rectify things apart from not firing kean straight away. But it seems like people are just going to continue to blame them even though we have spent the most money of any championship side. I would blame the mgt of the club, the board, and the players for this season. I do not blame venky
s for Blackburn losing to milwall.
3) now fans want Appleton out!! He should not have been appointed but we cant fire every manager after a spell of bad results. Now more fans wont return because of Appleton which will prob cause attendance to go even lower. We have had too many managers and i reckon we have prob signed 20 players since relegation which is way too much.
Im starting to wonder if the people of blackburn want a club. Its like they want the club to fail so they can just say i told you so. To have a club with such prestige and history in Blackburn is a great thing. If everyone is going to be so negative the whole time the club is doomed to history.
I'm getting sick of the negative fans, its no longer fun to go Ewood and they're as much to blame as anyone else. Ever get the feeling we're getting what we deserve after treatment of players and staff?
And a special mention to those idiot few in the riverside shouting abuse at Hanley...you are truly the most moronic fans ever and you won't be missed if you don't come back
DanBlackburn
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9:51am Thu 14 Mar 13
A few points:
1. Get Real Dunn was crying for himself not the club or us. It was his last chance at a Wembley appearance and he knew it. He betrayed us over the Odious One and I don't forget.
2. Orc Boy Appleton is proving to be what we all suspected; a clueless coach with a dreadful record in place due to his friendship with the corrupt snakes Shaw and Agnew. revolting.
3. Where is the journalism from the LET? Its like the days of Kean again just repeating tired old excuses and sound bites. Where is the challenge? "what are you going to do to turn this around Appleton?" is the quations they need to be asking and not accepting the trite "work harder" garbage.
We will lose to Burnley on Sunday and we need to do something different as a crowd if it happens.
We need to consider a full boycott.
1. Get Real Dunn was crying for himself not the club or us. It was his last chance at a Wembley appearance and he knew it. He betrayed us over the Odious One and I don't forget.
2. Orc Boy Appleton is proving to be what we all suspected; a clueless coach with a dreadful record in place due to his friendship with the corrupt snakes Shaw and Agnew. revolting.
3. Where is the journalism from the LET? Its like the days of Kean again just repeating tired old excuses and sound bites. Where is the challenge? "what are you going to do to turn this around Appleton?" is the quations they need to be asking and not accepting the trite "work harder" garbage.
We will lose to Burnley on Sunday and we need to do something different as a crowd if it happens.
We need to consider a full boycott.
Crow27
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9:55am Thu 14 Mar 13
MA OUT!!!!!!!!!!
3 reasons why;
1) He will take us down. We are not scoring and conceding,we will go down!
2) Should of won the FA cup replay!
3) We will not beat Burnley!!!
5/6 Managers this season, put Gary Bowyer back in charge until the end of season quickly!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Michael Appleton OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!
3 reasons why;
1) He will take us down. We are not scoring and conceding,we will go down!
2) Should of won the FA cup replay!
3) We will not beat Burnley!!!
5/6 Managers this season, put Gary Bowyer back in charge until the end of season quickly!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Michael Appleton OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!
P888HOW
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9:57am Thu 14 Mar 13
handyamBRFC wrote:YOU!! should not be calling players that have been loyal to the club, been great sevants, yes Pederson was bad, and yes time to retire, but David Dunn was a class above the rest.and can still do a job for us. Two very poor sides playing last night,Millwall are probably the worst team in the league,so what does that say about Rovers. relagation on the cards, yes i think so.
smell the coffee...!!
Poor
poor team
poor tactics
poor management
poor midfield yet again
MA.... the problem with....!!
'' A study of Neanderthal skulls suggests that they went extinct because they had larger eyes than our species.
As a result, more of their brain was devoted to seeing in the long, dark nights in Europe, at the expense of high-level processing. ''
Its quite obvious MA cant do it in the long run for BRFC....!
MA can def. see in the long dreary dark night's with his big bulging eyes which is obvious but can he see us through.....!!!!
but the vital question is can he process the info out there which is plain to see for all and come up with an action plan and see us through to the end of this season and beyond....!
I doubt it.....!!!
thats 7 defeats already and counting.
MA is a gonner if we lose against Burnley....!!
MA is an expert at draws..!
check the stats....! sh...te..!
we cant have this at BRFC,
sorry see this season out
or let him go....!! & start afresh...!
and we need a new proper manager
and new midfielders...!!!
get rid of the elderly OAPs
its a young mans game...!!!
A new set of youngish, hard working, physically fit, skillfull Midfielders required at BRFC.
what do you think...?????
2 great servants will have to Retire.
Pederson is just too slow PLZ retire
Dunn played well tonight but def in his last season and well be lucky if he plays a couple of games.
sorry is just too fat...PLZ retire..!
but Dunny should play v burnley.
cos hes a local lad with pride.
this will be his - DD- Cup final
and ours of course...!!!
The Burnley game will define our season.....!!
Hanley is slow but tries his utmost to do a decent job.
but not good enough for long term.
His thinking is also slow and hes simply not good enough as a 1st team player but ok to have in BRFC squad.
Lowe is slow but tries his utmost
& should be ok as a squad member and occasional sub but not 1st team material in my view.
Marcus olson is like a fairy lightweight
only need to blow on him and he falls
Past it players ...plz Just GO...!!!
Murthy, Etuhu, Orr, Givet, Robinson
and any other causing BRFC issues should leave asap...PLZ
so we can buy players who will play for the BRFC badge....!
not just here for money....!!
Dann is not the ideal captain
In fact we have no captain at BRFC
hence we need to find a strong central defensive partner for Dann
who should be a capable central defender & hopefully be a potential captain.
and
a midfield general or 2 who we need as leaders in the middle as that's our problem area and a capable ball winning captain in the center should sort things out.....for sure...!!
what do you think...!!!!
" NEW MANAGER ASAP"
passingfootball
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10:04am Thu 14 Mar 13
#1. Hull Away – Loss – not scored, no clean sheet
#2. Leeds Home– Draw – not scored,
#3. Leicester Away – Loss – not scored, no clean sheet
#4. Peterbro’ Home – Loss
#5. Bolton Away – Loss - not scored, no clean sheet
#6. Millwall Away – Draw – not scored
#7. Millwall Away – Loss – not scored, no clean sheet
Since that fluke against arsenal the team has gone to pot, in the next
7 games they failed to score in six, and the only reason they scored against peterbro was they eased off and tried to sit on the lead, the jones dominance and goal was because he was signed at the last minute and posh tactics had not accounted for him
#2. Leeds Home– Draw – not scored,
#3. Leicester Away – Loss – not scored, no clean sheet
#4. Peterbro’ Home – Loss
#5. Bolton Away – Loss - not scored, no clean sheet
#6. Millwall Away – Draw – not scored
#7. Millwall Away – Loss – not scored, no clean sheet
Since that fluke against arsenal the team has gone to pot, in the next
7 games they failed to score in six, and the only reason they scored against peterbro was they eased off and tried to sit on the lead, the jones dominance and goal was because he was signed at the last minute and posh tactics had not accounted for him
armchair-supporter!
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10:09am Thu 14 Mar 13
GAZHAY wrote:No, don't agree with you there. Peds and Dunn brought composure and effort, a **** sight more than Murphy and Lowe, but if the players around you aren't up to it then you're always going to look worse.
flowersorseaman? wrote:What did Pederson do wrong tonight??????
bluebud wrote: admit some players gave it all but if Dunn was only 70% fit and he got man of the match?? Don't want to see Pedersen playing again.Wow, what did Pedersen do wrong tonight, he was asked to play centre mid in a very hectic midfield and he was everywhere. The problem is the managers inisitence on playing 2 out and out strikers and leaving us a man short in midfield, week in week out. MGP put a shif in tonight and I thank him for that. What both him and Dunny needed was another body in there so thayt could play a bit further up the pitch, but as usual we went with 2 isolated strikers, pinning all our hopes on a defensive error. That said with no option at right back other than Lowe, Murphy (as requested by the majority of Rovers fans) relegated to his living room couch, Williamson and Bentley injured, Jones cup tied, Rochina and Rosado loaned out and Vuckevic released, who the hell else could we have played there? Givet?
Surely you are having a laugh!!!!
Pederson should have been finished at Blackburn 5 years ago, he has zero pace, zero passing ability, zero dead ball knowledge anymore and is wondering round like a lost man. He CAN NOT pass the ball, turns and hoofs it and is completely out of his depth, Grahnted centre mid might not be his ideal position but he has no positions left to play as on the wing he can't do it there either. Sorry but you can't be watching the same Perderson we are all watching.
And Peds has never had pace! Definitely choose him over Murphy/Lowe
moh
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10:12am Thu 14 Mar 13
noddy57 wrote:In recent games we could have done with Ruben Rochina as he used to take a few defenders away with his dribbling and Rhodes had more room. He made things happen although sometimes his final ball was poor. What a poor tactician Appleton is to let him go. I wonder where the next goal is going to come from unless he has the nouse to change the way we play.
lm sorry guys but you really need to wake up,,appleton will take us further down,,derek shaw has a lot to answer for ,,get gary bowyer back in charge,,and only then at the end of the season appoint a proven manager,,but the venkys will have to pay up front,,but please please get rid of shaw and appleton,,or its the end of our dream and certainly the venkys too,
moh
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10:20am Thu 14 Mar 13
Riverside 7 wrote:The record was there to see when Shaw appointed him. His results at Blackpool showed he is a draw specialist and believes in defend, defend and defend. Venkys have appointed another inexperienced, tactically naive manager. He talks a good talk but thats it. 4 points from 6th place when he took over. We are in free fall. Well Mr Shaw, another poor decision to appoint Appleton.
Just got back from Ewood – absolutely gutted. Appleton’s must be tactically inept. Everyone in the crowd could see that the Millwall central defenders (and Danny Shittu in particular) were winning everything in the air yet we continued to pump more and more high balls into their box. Why is he selecting players who are not fit? Only a few weeks ago he was telling us that our squad was far too big. I felt sorry for Dunny who ran himself into the ground but where do we go from here? That is just 2 goals scored in the past 7 games and both of them came in the same game against Peterborough when we were 3 down after 27 minutes. The pressure is on Appleton now to deliver for the Burnley game. If we lose that I dread to think what will happen. Relegation is edging closer and closer.
gleechy
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10:21am Thu 14 Mar 13
Angry From Accrington wrote:How on earth can previous owners affect current situation? Which only occurred when current owners had full charge.
gleechy wrote:Sorry but you are wrong. You HAVE to go back before Venky's to get to the rea cause and that is too few fans paying too little money to support a Premiership Club. That's what persuaded the Walker Trust to sell and they could not get rid quickly enough as soon as the cash was on the table. Admittedly, since then, Venky's have made the mistake of taking advice from Snake Oil Salesman and the only way back is the appointment of an ambitious, straight talking manager, back by a chairman who can manage upwards. Souness and Williams, where are you?
Irish knowledge wrote: Right we are in serious trouble. Here is the truth and reality. 1) We no longer have enough fans to sustain our once great club. An attendance of 8k in fa cup q final with a real chance to get to wembley is terrible. Our attendances in league are 13k. Therefore we are headed to become an average championship team with a similar pay scale as Burnley and free bees and loan signings. We already have cheapest tickets and still cant sell out. Now i know blackburn is only a town of 100k in working class area of Uk, so it is understandable that we cant fill our ground. However that just confirms our status as a small championship club without the premier league money. 2) of course fans blame venkys but i would argue that since we got relagated they have tried to rectify things apart from not firing kean straight away. But it seems like people are just going to continue to blame them even though we have spent the most money of any championship side. I would blame the mgt of the club, the board, and the players for this season. I do not blame venky s for Blackburn losing to milwall. 3) now fans want Appleton out!! He should not have been appointed but we cant fire every manager after a spell of bad results. Now more fans wont return because of Appleton which will prob cause attendance to go even lower. We have had too many managers and i reckon we have prob signed 20 players since relegation which is way too much. Im starting to wonder if the people of blackburn want a club. Its like they want the club to fail so they can just say i told you so. To have a club with such prestige and history in Blackburn is a great thing. If everyone is going to be so negative the whole time the club is doomed to history.My goodness you haven't been following football very long have you? If you try looking any further than Venkys for the problem, you;ve gone too far, and you'll go round in circles until you eventually wind up with Venks being the problem. Players are unable to play, board members are unable to do their jobs properly, and if you look at some of the shower that they have employed like Shaw and Singh, they would never be able to make a good club even without these restraints. Football is one of the last things on these self righteous owner's minds. Look no further, the downward spiral will continue until they are history.
I know it is not a heavily supported club, but your backhanded comment critisising the previous owners is suspicious to say the least.
They could not get rid quick enough, so what? They held it together whilst they had the riegns.
They don't give their agenda to the next owners and tell them what to do, maybe they should of.
Only the brain dead didn't realise that the club needed a trusted Manager after being run down so long with a rookie in charge.
If your Venks are so unblameable, why are they giving good wages to bad footballers in lieu of poor supporter numbers?
They had their big chance to bring in a good footballing brain when the Rookie left, and by goodness it took them long enough to mess that up as well with another Rookie.
Why have they got no good football brains left at Ewood?
The answer is quite simple, They don't care about football, they are responsible for the colapse of this mighty club, end of.
cs1717
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10:23am Thu 14 Mar 13
plain and simple - we are now supporting a team that has absolutely no pride whatsoever in what they are doing .These clowns are getting paid **** good money to do a job they couldn't care less about .This is a disgrace .
I just hope we can get this weekend over with unscathed , quickly get the points we need to secure championship football for next season and get the season over with .The sooner we can get rid of these average ( at best ) overpaid idlers the **** better
I just hope we can get this weekend over with unscathed , quickly get the points we need to secure championship football for next season and get the season over with .The sooner we can get rid of these average ( at best ) overpaid idlers the **** better
moh
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10:30am Thu 14 Mar 13
YorkshireRover85 wrote:Appletons judgement is poor. What a poor decision to let Ruben and Vukevich go and get his mates Campbell, Rekik and others who have been poor, Ruben made things happen and was joy to watch although his final ball at times was'nt right. Appleton's record at Blackpool is there for all to see. It does'nt seem Venkys have learnt from past mistakes as they keep appointing average manager with no tactical nouse. Appleton looks like a second rated Sam Allardyce. He is trying to emulate Sams hoofball but not good at it.
Don't get me wrong...I'm not defending recent performances from Appleton or the players. But this disaster is not Appletons fault. We have as he's already said players who aren't prepared to put the shift in for the club. But we have such an unbalanced/injured squad that we have to rely on some of these players to help us out. Yes tactics have been all wrong recently which I admit doesn't bode well for the immediate future, but we need to back Appleton for the next 10 games, because as bad as things are now, if we turn on the team even more we could end up staring oblivion in the face with relegation. All that really matters is staying in this league this season. FA Cup was a nice run, but a distraction from what is really important. Me personally, we need to give Appleton and the team backing from now to end of season and starting soon as the final whistle blows on the last day of the season, the club needs to sort out the mess. I believe Appleton should be given the summer to try and clear out all the deadwood and actually bring in proven championship players who will bring more quality and look at how Huddersfield played last season to see how to get even more from Rhodes, who quite frankly with 20+ goals this season with the service he's received is unbelievable.
1stevebfc70
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10:52am Thu 14 Mar 13
Come on rovers fans u all blame the venkies the board the manager at least under agent kean he had u well up in top 6 u hound him out n what happens u drop like a sack of **** from the top of blackpool tower how about saying ya team just cant do it the ball last night was over head hight most of the game . Im looking forward t a great game on sunday would normally b nervous but full of confidence now :-)
Angry From Accrington
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10:55am Thu 14 Mar 13
gleechy wrote:Eeeeeeerm, If the Walker Trust hadn't sold.........Venky's couldn't have bought?
Angry From Accrington wrote:How on earth can previous owners affect current situation? Which only occurred when current owners had full charge. I know it is not a heavily supported club, but your backhanded comment critisising the previous owners is suspicious to say the least. They could not get rid quick enough, so what? They held it together whilst they had the riegns. They don't give their agenda to the next owners and tell them what to do, maybe they should of. Only the brain dead didn't realise that the club needed a trusted Manager after being run down so long with a rookie in charge. If your Venks are so unblameable, why are they giving good wages to bad footballers in lieu of poor supporter numbers? They had their big chance to bring in a good footballing brain when the Rookie left, and by goodness it took them long enough to mess that up as well with another Rookie. Why have they got no good football brains left at Ewood? The answer is quite simple, They don't care about football, they are responsible for the colapse of this mighty club, end of.gleechy wrote:Sorry but you are wrong. You HAVE to go back before Venky's to get to the rea cause and that is too few fans paying too little money to support a Premiership Club. That's what persuaded the Walker Trust to sell and they could not get rid quickly enough as soon as the cash was on the table. Admittedly, since then, Venky's have made the mistake of taking advice from Snake Oil Salesman and the only way back is the appointment of an ambitious, straight talking manager, back by a chairman who can manage upwards. Souness and Williams, where are you?Irish knowledge wrote: Right we are in serious trouble. Here is the truth and reality. 1) We no longer have enough fans to sustain our once great club. An attendance of 8k in fa cup q final with a real chance to get to wembley is terrible. Our attendances in league are 13k. Therefore we are headed to become an average championship team with a similar pay scale as Burnley and free bees and loan signings. We already have cheapest tickets and still cant sell out. Now i know blackburn is only a town of 100k in working class area of Uk, so it is understandable that we cant fill our ground. However that just confirms our status as a small championship club without the premier league money. 2) of course fans blame venkys but i would argue that since we got relagated they have tried to rectify things apart from not firing kean straight away. But it seems like people are just going to continue to blame them even though we have spent the most money of any championship side. I would blame the mgt of the club, the board, and the players for this season. I do not blame venky s for Blackburn losing to milwall. 3) now fans want Appleton out!! He should not have been appointed but we cant fire every manager after a spell of bad results. Now more fans wont return because of Appleton which will prob cause attendance to go even lower. We have had too many managers and i reckon we have prob signed 20 players since relegation which is way too much. Im starting to wonder if the people of blackburn want a club. Its like they want the club to fail so they can just say i told you so. To have a club with such prestige and history in Blackburn is a great thing. If everyone is going to be so negative the whole time the club is doomed to history.My goodness you haven't been following football very long have you? If you try looking any further than Venkys for the problem, you;ve gone too far, and you'll go round in circles until you eventually wind up with Venks being the problem. Players are unable to play, board members are unable to do their jobs properly, and if you look at some of the shower that they have employed like Shaw and Singh, they would never be able to make a good club even without these restraints. Football is one of the last things on these self righteous owner's minds. Look no further, the downward spiral will continue until they are history.
Where did I say Venky's were blameless? Of course they are guilty of being gullible and naiive but, they are still bankrolling a club with a playing staff bigger than many Premiership sides.
passingfootball
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10:59am Thu 14 Mar 13
if this manager is adamant about this two striker strategy then the only way out is a 3-5-2, teams have wised up, they know rovers weakness, about their lack of ball retention, movement with and without the ball and appletons cowardly tactics and therefore setup their team to expose those weaknesses with extra men those areas,
in the last two games you could definetely see they were targetting marcus olsson, as a makeshift left back he was far from comfortable, plus the lack of presence in the centre of the park meant they blocked any advance which would supply quality balls to the attackers, rovers didnt hold the ball long enough to allow runners move higher up the pitch and create extra options
the only way out is to come out fighting, do the very thing back to them, what yesterday showed was they had no definite game plan, that can only be down to lack of preparation, there was no sign which showed they were targetting the oppositions strengths and exposing their weaknesses, millwall definetely had weakness especially when you run at them with the ball, yet rovers played int their hands by lauching long ball after long ball, does appletons every learn or is hes just a one-trick pony, in that he only knows one way to play and that badly
in the last two games you could definetely see they were targetting marcus olsson, as a makeshift left back he was far from comfortable, plus the lack of presence in the centre of the park meant they blocked any advance which would supply quality balls to the attackers, rovers didnt hold the ball long enough to allow runners move higher up the pitch and create extra options
the only way out is to come out fighting, do the very thing back to them, what yesterday showed was they had no definite game plan, that can only be down to lack of preparation, there was no sign which showed they were targetting the oppositions strengths and exposing their weaknesses, millwall definetely had weakness especially when you run at them with the ball, yet rovers played int their hands by lauching long ball after long ball, does appletons every learn or is hes just a one-trick pony, in that he only knows one way to play and that badly
Gammon Flap
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11:00am Thu 14 Mar 13
MUST BLAME SOMEBODY - this is the mantra of all you inbred saps.
It's all the fault of Venkys (Despite you paying THE MOST MONEY in the entire division on transfer fees in the summer - but this of course doesn't fit in with your complaining so it sems to have been glossed over)
It used to be the fault of Jerome Anderson, now he's gone, it isn't
It is Shaw's fault
It used to be the fault of Shebby Singh - but apparently now it isn't
It is all Hendry's fault
It is all Danny Murphy's fault
it is all Michael Appleton's fault - this is the funniest one, the guy is your THIRD manager this season and already the vast majority of you horse-fondlers want him out.
Pathetic club, pathetic fans, pathetic team and about to be finally owned by your nearest neighbours.
3 Years
It's all the fault of Venkys (Despite you paying THE MOST MONEY in the entire division on transfer fees in the summer - but this of course doesn't fit in with your complaining so it sems to have been glossed over)
It used to be the fault of Jerome Anderson, now he's gone, it isn't
It is Shaw's fault
It used to be the fault of Shebby Singh - but apparently now it isn't
It is all Hendry's fault
It is all Danny Murphy's fault
it is all Michael Appleton's fault - this is the funniest one, the guy is your THIRD manager this season and already the vast majority of you horse-fondlers want him out.
Pathetic club, pathetic fans, pathetic team and about to be finally owned by your nearest neighbours.
3 Years
vicn1956
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11:09am Thu 14 Mar 13
MOH-Apointed an average manager?
Fail to appoint quality=no quality!
Fail to appoint quality=no quality!
Roverthere
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11:12am Thu 14 Mar 13
Roll on sunday. Although this is the worst Rovers team for many years and we have dropped to the same level as our sad rivals have struggled to acheive, I fully expect Rovers to win this one. Come on you blues!
Paul E
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11:16am Thu 14 Mar 13
"Our lads gave everything tonight, I couldn’t ask any more for effort or desire but it just wasn’t to be".
No way of agreeing with MA on this one, 3 maybe 4 players did the above some did not bother, most are not good enough.
We are in a mess, from the Board, to the manager and down to the players.
No way of agreeing with MA on this one, 3 maybe 4 players did the above some did not bother, most are not good enough.
We are in a mess, from the Board, to the manager and down to the players.
Roverthere
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11:29am Thu 14 Mar 13
Paul E wrote:But why? Appart from the diabolical early decisions re Sam, Williams and the long appointment of Kean, we still have, on paper, a squad vallued at more than most at this level. Players have been bought (Although better ones sold) The manager ? Or are other factors to blame. Of the 3 relegated teams, only Bolton are performing and they have only just turned the corner. Are we all still shellshocked over the self inflicted relegation. We desperately need to hang on and rebuild, althogh the same could be said for last season!
"Our lads gave everything tonight, I couldn’t ask any more for effort or desire but it just wasn’t to be".
No way of agreeing with MA on this one, 3 maybe 4 players did the above some did not bother, most are not good enough.
We are in a mess, from the Board, to the manager and down to the players.
toz73_asfc
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12:04pm Thu 14 Mar 13
MR GARY BOWYER - BEST WE'VE HAD FOR TWO YEARS!!!
GET HIM BACK NOW- PLEASE!!!!
GET HIM BACK NOW- PLEASE!!!!
French Rover
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12:10pm Thu 14 Mar 13
Two aims left for this season - beat the scum on sunday and stay clear of relegation. Both are crucial to the future of the club. But both will be achieved despite the poor performances and incessant wailing of so many Rovers fans.
Why do you think we got relegated last season - we were absolute rubbish then and we are still pretty much rubbish now.
I am not sure how so many Rovers fans can have so much expectation in a club that has been struggling to stay afloat and even exist for three seasons now. We can have hope- we always have had in the past but there is some difference between hope and expectation.
Appleton or any manager we bring in needs time to work on the mess and try to put some base back in place to move forward. |He may not be the guy to take us forward but he is the right man for now for the first task.
Why do you think we got relegated last season - we were absolute rubbish then and we are still pretty much rubbish now.
I am not sure how so many Rovers fans can have so much expectation in a club that has been struggling to stay afloat and even exist for three seasons now. We can have hope- we always have had in the past but there is some difference between hope and expectation.
Appleton or any manager we bring in needs time to work on the mess and try to put some base back in place to move forward. |He may not be the guy to take us forward but he is the right man for now for the first task.
YorkshireRover85
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12:22pm Thu 14 Mar 13
moh wrote:Campbell had scored 10goals in a rubbish Ipswich team this season, and everyone when signing him didn't see it as a problem, hindsight is a wonderful thing. Ruben was a liability all the way, it was too infrequent that he produced the "quality" everyone refers too, and too frequently he lost the ball, refused to give an easy pass. I do agree his judgement has been poor at times, and the football is moving back to Big Sam, but if it produced the same results as then I would be ok for that at the moment.
YorkshireRover85 wrote: Don't get me wrong...I'm not defending recent performances from Appleton or the players. But this disaster is not Appletons fault. We have as he's already said players who aren't prepared to put the shift in for the club. But we have such an unbalanced/injured squad that we have to rely on some of these players to help us out. Yes tactics have been all wrong recently which I admit doesn't bode well for the immediate future, but we need to back Appleton for the next 10 games, because as bad as things are now, if we turn on the team even more we could end up staring oblivion in the face with relegation. All that really matters is staying in this league this season. FA Cup was a nice run, but a distraction from what is really important. Me personally, we need to give Appleton and the team backing from now to end of season and starting soon as the final whistle blows on the last day of the season, the club needs to sort out the mess. I believe Appleton should be given the summer to try and clear out all the deadwood and actually bring in proven championship players who will bring more quality and look at how Huddersfield played last season to see how to get even more from Rhodes, who quite frankly with 20+ goals this season with the service he's received is unbelievable.Appletons judgement is poor. What a poor decision to let Ruben and Vukevich go and get his mates Campbell, Rekik and others who have been poor, Ruben made things happen and was joy to watch although his final ball at times was'nt right. Appleton's record at Blackpool is there for all to see. It does'nt seem Venkys have learnt from past mistakes as they keep appointing average manager with no tactical nouse. Appleton looks like a second rated Sam Allardyce. He is trying to emulate Sams hoofball but not good at it.
It's why I think we need to give him the summer to try and sort this mess out, because its not his mess but the Keans mess which still hasn't been addressed. If we keep hounding out managers after 10games or so in charge, who is realistically going to want to manage/own the club?
benal13
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12:30pm Thu 14 Mar 13
French Rover wrote:its simple while the idiots are running the asylum nothing is going to change no matter how much spin you put on it, the club is being run like a job for the boys, we have all had our opnions since venkys took over, and which ever way you look at it the incessant waillers have been right every time agnew and shaw who now seem to be running things couldnt pick there nose never mind pick a manager capable of pulling everyone together , and by the way hasnt MA got big eyes, !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Two aims left for this season - beat the scum on sunday and stay clear of relegation. Both are crucial to the future of the club. But both will be achieved despite the poor performances and incessant wailing of so many Rovers fans.
Why do you think we got relegated last season - we were absolute rubbish then and we are still pretty much rubbish now.
I am not sure how so many Rovers fans can have so much expectation in a club that has been struggling to stay afloat and even exist for three seasons now. We can have hope- we always have had in the past but there is some difference between hope and expectation.
Appleton or any manager we bring in needs time to work on the mess and try to put some base back in place to move forward. |He may not be the guy to take us forward but he is the right man for now for the first task.
Bazzer
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12:41pm Thu 14 Mar 13
The most desolate night I have spent on a near deserted Riverside for some years. That was hoofball without the Big Sam know how of hoofball. Shittu will not have an easier night. Talk about one dimensional attacking football.
Beating Burnley is an absolute must to prevent a rot that will see us in League 1.
Beating Burnley is an absolute must to prevent a rot that will see us in League 1.
handyamBRFC
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1:01pm Thu 14 Mar 13
smell the coffee...!!
Poor
poor team
poor tactics
poor management
poor midfield yet again
MA.... the problem with....!!
'' A study of Neanderthal skulls suggests that they went extinct because they had larger eyes than our species.
As a result, more of their brain was devoted to seeing in the long, dark nights in Europe, at the expense of high-level processing. ''
Its quite obvious MA cant do it in the long run for BRFC....!
'' MA can def. see in the long dreary dark night's with his big bulging eyes which is obvious but can he see us through.....!!!!
but the vital question is can he process the info out there which is plain to see for all and come up with an action plan and see us through to the end of this season and beyond....! ''
I doubt it.....!!!
thats 7 defeats already and counting.
MA is a gonner if we lose against Burnley....!!
MA is an expert at draws..!
check the stats....! sh...te..!
we cant have this at BRFC,
sorry see this season out
or let him go....!! & start afresh...!
and we need a new proper manager
and new midfielders...!!!
get rid of the elderly OAPs
its a young mans game...!!!
A new set of youngish, hard working, physically fit, skillfull Midfielders required at BRFC.
what do you think...?????
2 great servants will have to Retire.
Pederson is just too slow PLZ retire
Dunn played well tonight but def in his last season and well be lucky if he plays a couple of games.
sorry is just mostly unfit...PLZ retire..!
but Dunny should play v burnley.
cos hes a local lad with pride.
this will be his - DD- Cup final
and ours of course...!!!
The Burnley game will define our season.....!!
Hanley is slow but tries his utmost to do a decent job.
but not good enough for long term.
His thinking is also slow and hes simply not good enough as a 1st team player but ok to have in BRFC squad.
Lowe is slow but tries his utmost
& should be ok as a squad member and occasional sub but not 1st team material in my view.
Marcus olson is like a fairy lightweight
only need to blow on him and he falls
Past it players ...plz Just GO...!!!
Murthy, Etuhu, Orr, Givet, Robinson
and any other causing BRFC issues should leave asap...PLZ
so we can buy players who will play for the BRFC badge....!
not just here for money....!!
Dann is not the ideal captain
In fact we have no captain at BRFC
hence we need to find a strong central defensive partner for Dann
who should be a capable central defender & hopefully be a potential captain.
and
a midfield general or 2 who we need as leaders in the middle as that's our problem area and a capable ball winning captain in the center should sort things out.....for sure...!!
what do you think...!!!!
Poor
poor team
poor tactics
poor management
poor midfield yet again
MA.... the problem with....!!
'' A study of Neanderthal skulls suggests that they went extinct because they had larger eyes than our species.
As a result, more of their brain was devoted to seeing in the long, dark nights in Europe, at the expense of high-level processing. ''
Its quite obvious MA cant do it in the long run for BRFC....!
'' MA can def. see in the long dreary dark night's with his big bulging eyes which is obvious but can he see us through.....!!!!
but the vital question is can he process the info out there which is plain to see for all and come up with an action plan and see us through to the end of this season and beyond....! ''
I doubt it.....!!!
thats 7 defeats already and counting.
MA is a gonner if we lose against Burnley....!!
MA is an expert at draws..!
check the stats....! sh...te..!
we cant have this at BRFC,
sorry see this season out
or let him go....!! & start afresh...!
and we need a new proper manager
and new midfielders...!!!
get rid of the elderly OAPs
its a young mans game...!!!
A new set of youngish, hard working, physically fit, skillfull Midfielders required at BRFC.
what do you think...?????
2 great servants will have to Retire.
Pederson is just too slow PLZ retire
Dunn played well tonight but def in his last season and well be lucky if he plays a couple of games.
sorry is just mostly unfit...PLZ retire..!
but Dunny should play v burnley.
cos hes a local lad with pride.
this will be his - DD- Cup final
and ours of course...!!!
The Burnley game will define our season.....!!
Hanley is slow but tries his utmost to do a decent job.
but not good enough for long term.
His thinking is also slow and hes simply not good enough as a 1st team player but ok to have in BRFC squad.
Lowe is slow but tries his utmost
& should be ok as a squad member and occasional sub but not 1st team material in my view.
Marcus olson is like a fairy lightweight
only need to blow on him and he falls
Past it players ...plz Just GO...!!!
Murthy, Etuhu, Orr, Givet, Robinson
and any other causing BRFC issues should leave asap...PLZ
so we can buy players who will play for the BRFC badge....!
not just here for money....!!
Dann is not the ideal captain
In fact we have no captain at BRFC
hence we need to find a strong central defensive partner for Dann
who should be a capable central defender & hopefully be a potential captain.
and
a midfield general or 2 who we need as leaders in the middle as that's our problem area and a capable ball winning captain in the center should sort things out.....for sure...!!
what do you think...!!!!
carlmc1
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1:09pm Thu 14 Mar 13
MxMave wrote:I have it on good authority that he won't play Goodwillie, as he wants his own players in. I'm not saying he is the answer to everything, but give the lad a go. If he fails to score he is only doing what the others have done in 7 out of the last 8 games. So far as I am concerned, Appleton talks the talk, but fails to deliver on anything. He has stated that things will get worse before they get better. I can already hear another version of what we were told last year. Sometimes you have to take a step back to take a step forward. Two steps back will be were we go at the end of this season, as I cannot see another win coming.
You have to realise at some point Appleton has destroyed our attacking threat entirely. He stands on the touchline silent for 90mins, he fails to realise when players are absolutely knackered, his subs are always too little too late, he dosent realise were not strong enough to play longball, he's ruining JRs career, he has absoluely no charisma, no experience, the fans never wanted him - brag said they'd protest of he was appointed. He is yet to make a tactical switch which has ced the game, and keeps Nuno Gomez and goodwillie out of games when the alternatives are Forrester and dj Campbell. He totally fails to see that we don't press teams enough when thier in possession and we rarely commit more than 2 players to the box when we attack. We need to stick with a manager for the longterm and let them build a squad but this isnt that guy. Venkys must shell out for a proven experienced manager before we drop into total oblivion.
Anyway I guess we will possibly have a chance of Wembley next year in the Autowindscreens cup. We may even make that a North West affair, Preston V Rovers.
Good odds on this at the minute, around 10/1 against us going down, but make no mistake about it, we are going down!
Brunzig
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1:10pm Thu 14 Mar 13
I think its pretty apparent it isnt just Danny Murphy who doesnt want to play for the club....Pedersen IMO is poor!! He should not start on Sunday, Dunny if fit and Jones would be my first choice without a doubt.
What Appleton needs is to clear out the dead wood: Pedersen, Murphy, Etuhu, Lowe, Orr to name a few.
It pretty clear to me and probably most of you the way we need to play is to keep the ball to feet NOT longballing it up to Best and Rhodes where Danny Shittu can claim every f*cking header!!
Give them the ball at their feet and they will score goals!! Pedersen can't cross so why the hell is he taking corners and freekicks?
A MASSIVE revamp is in order at Ewood in the summer.
What Appleton needs is to clear out the dead wood: Pedersen, Murphy, Etuhu, Lowe, Orr to name a few.
It pretty clear to me and probably most of you the way we need to play is to keep the ball to feet NOT longballing it up to Best and Rhodes where Danny Shittu can claim every f*cking header!!
Give them the ball at their feet and they will score goals!! Pedersen can't cross so why the hell is he taking corners and freekicks?
A MASSIVE revamp is in order at Ewood in the summer.
noddymcleod
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1:33pm Thu 14 Mar 13
Apple has worked out that if we don't concede a goal we won't lose, but he hasn't worked out yet that if the other team score we have to score in order to draw. He also doesn't seem to realise that in order to win we need to score at least one goal and if they score we need to score more than them.
I'm sure he's working hard on the problem and proud of what the lads are doing in the meantime, and I'm sure the "give Apple a chance" brigade - which alarmingly after last night is still there - are still saying he's OK.
I think he's checking with the bank every day to see that the money from Venkys has arrived.
One consolation of being knocked out of the Cup is that we'll be spared the nausea of seeing the Chuckle Brothers turning up at Wembley.
I'm sure he's working hard on the problem and proud of what the lads are doing in the meantime, and I'm sure the "give Apple a chance" brigade - which alarmingly after last night is still there - are still saying he's OK.
I think he's checking with the bank every day to see that the money from Venkys has arrived.
One consolation of being knocked out of the Cup is that we'll be spared the nausea of seeing the Chuckle Brothers turning up at Wembley.
noddy57
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1:36pm Thu 14 Mar 13
moh wrote:there wont be any goals with this clown in charge,,he is clueless and along with agnew and shaw he needs to go now,,we are staring into the abys,,l think its too late even to stay in the championship,where have we heard this before ?l never wanted this negative man in the first place,,,its almost like the whole set up is on a mission to destroy our club,,,,
noddy57 wrote:In recent games we could have done with Ruben Rochina as he used to take a few defenders away with his dribbling and Rhodes had more room. He made things happen although sometimes his final ball was poor. What a poor tactician Appleton is to let him go. I wonder where the next goal is going to come from unless he has the nouse to change the way we play.
lm sorry guys but you really need to wake up,,appleton will take us further down,,derek shaw has a lot to answer for ,,get gary bowyer back in charge,,and only then at the end of the season appoint a proven manager,,but the venkys will have to pay up front,,but please please get rid of shaw and appleton,,or its the end of our dream and certainly the venkys too,
moh
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1:46pm Thu 14 Mar 13
YorkshireRover85 wrote:good managers tell/guide players exactly what to do. Good managers tell even substitute players what their job is when they come on. Appleton does not inspire confidence. You just need to look at him on touchline in last few home games, he looks like a rabbit in headlight and lost. The job looks too big for him. At start I said we need to give him 10 games to judge. He is even worst than I thought as he talked a good talk at beginning. I dont blame him as his wage was reportedly doubled but it comes down to Venkys who dont give much thought when appointing managers.
moh wrote:Campbell had scored 10goals in a rubbish Ipswich team this season, and everyone when signing him didn't see it as a problem, hindsight is a wonderful thing. Ruben was a liability all the way, it was too infrequent that he produced the "quality" everyone refers too, and too frequently he lost the ball, refused to give an easy pass. I do agree his judgement has been poor at times, and the football is moving back to Big Sam, but if it produced the same results as then I would be ok for that at the moment. It's why I think we need to give him the summer to try and sort this mess out, because its not his mess but the Keans mess which still hasn't been addressed. If we keep hounding out managers after 10games or so in charge, who is realistically going to want to manage/own the club?YorkshireRover85 wrote: Don't get me wrong...I'm not defending recent performances from Appleton or the players. But this disaster is not Appletons fault. We have as he's already said players who aren't prepared to put the shift in for the club. But we have such an unbalanced/injured squad that we have to rely on some of these players to help us out. Yes tactics have been all wrong recently which I admit doesn't bode well for the immediate future, but we need to back Appleton for the next 10 games, because as bad as things are now, if we turn on the team even more we could end up staring oblivion in the face with relegation. All that really matters is staying in this league this season. FA Cup was a nice run, but a distraction from what is really important. Me personally, we need to give Appleton and the team backing from now to end of season and starting soon as the final whistle blows on the last day of the season, the club needs to sort out the mess. I believe Appleton should be given the summer to try and clear out all the deadwood and actually bring in proven championship players who will bring more quality and look at how Huddersfield played last season to see how to get even more from Rhodes, who quite frankly with 20+ goals this season with the service he's received is unbelievable.Appletons judgement is poor. What a poor decision to let Ruben and Vukevich go and get his mates Campbell, Rekik and others who have been poor, Ruben made things happen and was joy to watch although his final ball at times was'nt right. Appleton's record at Blackpool is there for all to see. It does'nt seem Venkys have learnt from past mistakes as they keep appointing average manager with no tactical nouse. Appleton looks like a second rated Sam Allardyce. He is trying to emulate Sams hoofball but not good at it.
CARover
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2:13pm Thu 14 Mar 13
"Allerdycegate, Keangate, Relegate, Berggate, Applegate = survival
Bring on the next candidate to join the circus
Almost 2.5 years of lunacy from Venkys and their pathetic team, I have been a fan of this club since 1962 and have never felt so disgusted with the lack of progress at Ewood ever in my life..........frustr
ated fan
Bring on the next candidate to join the circus
Almost 2.5 years of lunacy from Venkys and their pathetic team, I have been a fan of this club since 1962 and have never felt so disgusted with the lack of progress at Ewood ever in my life..........frustr
ated fan
YorkshireRover85
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2:24pm Thu 14 Mar 13
moh wrote:Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he is the long term answer, but the guy needs a chance to put together a squad of his players and not just players inherited from the Kean era. Too many players on too much money playing too often out of position. We can't blame him for the mentality of the club at the moment. I admit, I would of wanted a better return of the recent games, but the aim has to be now to stay in this division, and write off this year like the last 2. We can't keep trying the reset button because the more we use it the worse things are going to get.
YorkshireRover85 wrote:good managers tell/guide players exactly what to do. Good managers tell even substitute players what their job is when they come on. Appleton does not inspire confidence. You just need to look at him on touchline in last few home games, he looks like a rabbit in headlight and lost. The job looks too big for him. At start I said we need to give him 10 games to judge. He is even worst than I thought as he talked a good talk at beginning. I dont blame him as his wage was reportedly doubled but it comes down to Venkys who dont give much thought when appointing managers.moh wrote:Campbell had scored 10goals in a rubbish Ipswich team this season, and everyone when signing him didn't see it as a problem, hindsight is a wonderful thing. Ruben was a liability all the way, it was too infrequent that he produced the "quality" everyone refers too, and too frequently he lost the ball, refused to give an easy pass. I do agree his judgement has been poor at times, and the football is moving back to Big Sam, but if it produced the same results as then I would be ok for that at the moment. It's why I think we need to give him the summer to try and sort this mess out, because its not his mess but the Keans mess which still hasn't been addressed. If we keep hounding out managers after 10games or so in charge, who is realistically going to want to manage/own the club?YorkshireRover85 wrote: Don't get me wrong...I'm not defending recent performances from Appleton or the players. But this disaster is not Appletons fault. We have as he's already said players who aren't prepared to put the shift in for the club. But we have such an unbalanced/injured squad that we have to rely on some of these players to help us out. Yes tactics have been all wrong recently which I admit doesn't bode well for the immediate future, but we need to back Appleton for the next 10 games, because as bad as things are now, if we turn on the team even more we could end up staring oblivion in the face with relegation. All that really matters is staying in this league this season. FA Cup was a nice run, but a distraction from what is really important. Me personally, we need to give Appleton and the team backing from now to end of season and starting soon as the final whistle blows on the last day of the season, the club needs to sort out the mess. I believe Appleton should be given the summer to try and clear out all the deadwood and actually bring in proven championship players who will bring more quality and look at how Huddersfield played last season to see how to get even more from Rhodes, who quite frankly with 20+ goals this season with the service he's received is unbelievable.Appletons judgement is poor. What a poor decision to let Ruben and Vukevich go and get his mates Campbell, Rekik and others who have been poor, Ruben made things happen and was joy to watch although his final ball at times was'nt right. Appleton's record at Blackpool is there for all to see. It does'nt seem Venkys have learnt from past mistakes as they keep appointing average manager with no tactical nouse. Appleton looks like a second rated Sam Allardyce. He is trying to emulate Sams hoofball but not good at it.
We need to give him to ability to put together a squad of players who want to be here and not just for the ridiculous wages we currently pay out.
All I'm saying is judge him 10 games into next season after a full pre-season, if still going wrong, he had a good chance then fair enough. Can't call time on the guy already with a squad that isn't his
benal13
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2:49pm Thu 14 Mar 13
YorkshireRover85 wrote:ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
moh wrote:Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he is the long term answer, but the guy needs a chance to put together a squad of his players and not just players inherited from the Kean era. Too many players on too much money playing too often out of position. We can't blame him for the mentality of the club at the moment. I admit, I would of wanted a better return of the recent games, but the aim has to be now to stay in this division, and write off this year like the last 2. We can't keep trying the reset button because the more we use it the worse things are going to get.
YorkshireRover85 wrote:good managers tell/guide players exactly what to do. Good managers tell even substitute players what their job is when they come on. Appleton does not inspire confidence. You just need to look at him on touchline in last few home games, he looks like a rabbit in headlight and lost. The job looks too big for him. At start I said we need to give him 10 games to judge. He is even worst than I thought as he talked a good talk at beginning. I dont blame him as his wage was reportedly doubled but it comes down to Venkys who dont give much thought when appointing managers.moh wrote:Campbell had scored 10goals in a rubbish Ipswich team this season, and everyone when signing him didn't see it as a problem, hindsight is a wonderful thing. Ruben was a liability all the way, it was too infrequent that he produced the "quality" everyone refers too, and too frequently he lost the ball, refused to give an easy pass. I do agree his judgement has been poor at times, and the football is moving back to Big Sam, but if it produced the same results as then I would be ok for that at the moment. It's why I think we need to give him the summer to try and sort this mess out, because its not his mess but the Keans mess which still hasn't been addressed. If we keep hounding out managers after 10games or so in charge, who is realistically going to want to manage/own the club?YorkshireRover85 wrote: Don't get me wrong...I'm not defending recent performances from Appleton or the players. But this disaster is not Appletons fault. We have as he's already said players who aren't prepared to put the shift in for the club. But we have such an unbalanced/injured squad that we have to rely on some of these players to help us out. Yes tactics have been all wrong recently which I admit doesn't bode well for the immediate future, but we need to back Appleton for the next 10 games, because as bad as things are now, if we turn on the team even more we could end up staring oblivion in the face with relegation. All that really matters is staying in this league this season. FA Cup was a nice run, but a distraction from what is really important. Me personally, we need to give Appleton and the team backing from now to end of season and starting soon as the final whistle blows on the last day of the season, the club needs to sort out the mess. I believe Appleton should be given the summer to try and clear out all the deadwood and actually bring in proven championship players who will bring more quality and look at how Huddersfield played last season to see how to get even more from Rhodes, who quite frankly with 20+ goals this season with the service he's received is unbelievable.Appletons judgement is poor. What a poor decision to let Ruben and Vukevich go and get his mates Campbell, Rekik and others who have been poor, Ruben made things happen and was joy to watch although his final ball at times was'nt right. Appleton's record at Blackpool is there for all to see. It does'nt seem Venkys have learnt from past mistakes as they keep appointing average manager with no tactical nouse. Appleton looks like a second rated Sam Allardyce. He is trying to emulate Sams hoofball but not good at it.
We need to give him to ability to put together a squad of players who want to be here and not just for the ridiculous wages we currently pay out.
All I'm saying is judge him 10 games into next season after a full pre-season, if still going wrong, he had a good chance then fair enough. Can't call time on the guy already with a squad that isn't his
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ProbablythebestRoversfanintheworld
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3:25pm Thu 14 Mar 13
If you couldn't ask any more from the players after that shambles it's time you asked for something else. Your P45!!!
It's down to you Appleton! What was on offer is not acceptable. The Rovers fans expect better than this! We want to see FOOTBALL! Win, lose or draw we want to see effort, will to win, fighting spirit. Don't expect fans to pay good money for this insult to our club. Hang your head in shame.
It's down to you Appleton! What was on offer is not acceptable. The Rovers fans expect better than this! We want to see FOOTBALL! Win, lose or draw we want to see effort, will to win, fighting spirit. Don't expect fans to pay good money for this insult to our club. Hang your head in shame.
P888HOW
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3:55pm Thu 14 Mar 13
benal13 wrote:Give Him a chance ? What in the 1st division !! rovers had a goal kick with 30 seconds to go what the keeper did ,is something i have never seen before a short pass to a defender when the ball should been wellied up field towards their goal,for a goal scoring chance. "unbelieveable" Appleton stood on touch line mouth open most of the match,not shouting directions,as Kenny Jackett was. I cant take this cr@p football anymore.so i bid a sad but fond farewell to my Rovers!!!
YorkshireRover85 wrote:ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
moh wrote:Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he is the long term answer, but the guy needs a chance to put together a squad of his players and not just players inherited from the Kean era. Too many players on too much money playing too often out of position. We can't blame him for the mentality of the club at the moment. I admit, I would of wanted a better return of the recent games, but the aim has to be now to stay in this division, and write off this year like the last 2. We can't keep trying the reset button because the more we use it the worse things are going to get.
YorkshireRover85 wrote:good managers tell/guide players exactly what to do. Good managers tell even substitute players what their job is when they come on. Appleton does not inspire confidence. You just need to look at him on touchline in last few home games, he looks like a rabbit in headlight and lost. The job looks too big for him. At start I said we need to give him 10 games to judge. He is even worst than I thought as he talked a good talk at beginning. I dont blame him as his wage was reportedly doubled but it comes down to Venkys who dont give much thought when appointing managers.moh wrote:Campbell had scored 10goals in a rubbish Ipswich team this season, and everyone when signing him didn't see it as a problem, hindsight is a wonderful thing. Ruben was a liability all the way, it was too infrequent that he produced the "quality" everyone refers too, and too frequently he lost the ball, refused to give an easy pass. I do agree his judgement has been poor at times, and the football is moving back to Big Sam, but if it produced the same results as then I would be ok for that at the moment. It's why I think we need to give him the summer to try and sort this mess out, because its not his mess but the Keans mess which still hasn't been addressed. If we keep hounding out managers after 10games or so in charge, who is realistically going to want to manage/own the club?YorkshireRover85 wrote: Don't get me wrong...I'm not defending recent performances from Appleton or the players. But this disaster is not Appletons fault. We have as he's already said players who aren't prepared to put the shift in for the club. But we have such an unbalanced/injured squad that we have to rely on some of these players to help us out. Yes tactics have been all wrong recently which I admit doesn't bode well for the immediate future, but we need to back Appleton for the next 10 games, because as bad as things are now, if we turn on the team even more we could end up staring oblivion in the face with relegation. All that really matters is staying in this league this season. FA Cup was a nice run, but a distraction from what is really important. Me personally, we need to give Appleton and the team backing from now to end of season and starting soon as the final whistle blows on the last day of the season, the club needs to sort out the mess. I believe Appleton should be given the summer to try and clear out all the deadwood and actually bring in proven championship players who will bring more quality and look at how Huddersfield played last season to see how to get even more from Rhodes, who quite frankly with 20+ goals this season with the service he's received is unbelievable.Appletons judgement is poor. What a poor decision to let Ruben and Vukevich go and get his mates Campbell, Rekik and others who have been poor, Ruben made things happen and was joy to watch although his final ball at times was'nt right. Appleton's record at Blackpool is there for all to see. It does'nt seem Venkys have learnt from past mistakes as they keep appointing average manager with no tactical nouse. Appleton looks like a second rated Sam Allardyce. He is trying to emulate Sams hoofball but not good at it.
We need to give him to ability to put together a squad of players who want to be here and not just for the ridiculous wages we currently pay out.
All I'm saying is judge him 10 games into next season after a full pre-season, if still going wrong, he had a good chance then fair enough. Can't call time on the guy already with a squad that isn't his
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benal13
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4:39pm Thu 14 Mar 13
P888HOW wrote:i think you agree with me ??????????????
benal13 wrote:Give Him a chance ? What in the 1st division !! rovers had a goal kick with 30 seconds to go what the keeper did ,is something i have never seen before a short pass to a defender when the ball should been wellied up field towards their goal,for a goal scoring chance. "unbelieveable" Appleton stood on touch line mouth open most of the match,not shouting directions,as Kenny Jackett was. I cant take this cr@p football anymore.so i bid a sad but fond farewell to my Rovers!!!
YorkshireRover85 wrote:ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
moh wrote:Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he is the long term answer, but the guy needs a chance to put together a squad of his players and not just players inherited from the Kean era. Too many players on too much money playing too often out of position. We can't blame him for the mentality of the club at the moment. I admit, I would of wanted a better return of the recent games, but the aim has to be now to stay in this division, and write off this year like the last 2. We can't keep trying the reset button because the more we use it the worse things are going to get.
YorkshireRover85 wrote:good managers tell/guide players exactly what to do. Good managers tell even substitute players what their job is when they come on. Appleton does not inspire confidence. You just need to look at him on touchline in last few home games, he looks like a rabbit in headlight and lost. The job looks too big for him. At start I said we need to give him 10 games to judge. He is even worst than I thought as he talked a good talk at beginning. I dont blame him as his wage was reportedly doubled but it comes down to Venkys who dont give much thought when appointing managers.moh wrote:Campbell had scored 10goals in a rubbish Ipswich team this season, and everyone when signing him didn't see it as a problem, hindsight is a wonderful thing. Ruben was a liability all the way, it was too infrequent that he produced the "quality" everyone refers too, and too frequently he lost the ball, refused to give an easy pass. I do agree his judgement has been poor at times, and the football is moving back to Big Sam, but if it produced the same results as then I would be ok for that at the moment. It's why I think we need to give him the summer to try and sort this mess out, because its not his mess but the Keans mess which still hasn't been addressed. If we keep hounding out managers after 10games or so in charge, who is realistically going to want to manage/own the club?YorkshireRover85 wrote: Don't get me wrong...I'm not defending recent performances from Appleton or the players. But this disaster is not Appletons fault. We have as he's already said players who aren't prepared to put the shift in for the club. But we have such an unbalanced/injured squad that we have to rely on some of these players to help us out. Yes tactics have been all wrong recently which I admit doesn't bode well for the immediate future, but we need to back Appleton for the next 10 games, because as bad as things are now, if we turn on the team even more we could end up staring oblivion in the face with relegation. All that really matters is staying in this league this season. FA Cup was a nice run, but a distraction from what is really important. Me personally, we need to give Appleton and the team backing from now to end of season and starting soon as the final whistle blows on the last day of the season, the club needs to sort out the mess. I believe Appleton should be given the summer to try and clear out all the deadwood and actually bring in proven championship players who will bring more quality and look at how Huddersfield played last season to see how to get even more from Rhodes, who quite frankly with 20+ goals this season with the service he's received is unbelievable.Appletons judgement is poor. What a poor decision to let Ruben and Vukevich go and get his mates Campbell, Rekik and others who have been poor, Ruben made things happen and was joy to watch although his final ball at times was'nt right. Appleton's record at Blackpool is there for all to see. It does'nt seem Venkys have learnt from past mistakes as they keep appointing average manager with no tactical nouse. Appleton looks like a second rated Sam Allardyce. He is trying to emulate Sams hoofball but not good at it.
We need to give him to ability to put together a squad of players who want to be here and not just for the ridiculous wages we currently pay out.
All I'm saying is judge him 10 games into next season after a full pre-season, if still going wrong, he had a good chance then fair enough. Can't call time on the guy already with a squad that isn't his
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DanBlackburn
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5:16pm Thu 14 Mar 13
YorkshireRover85 wrote:He has on paper a talented squad. Its just not being managed or inspired.
moh wrote:Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he is the long term answer, but the guy needs a chance to put together a squad of his players and not just players inherited from the Kean era. Too many players on too much money playing too often out of position. We can't blame him for the mentality of the club at the moment. I admit, I would of wanted a better return of the recent games, but the aim has to be now to stay in this division, and write off this year like the last 2. We can't keep trying the reset button because the more we use it the worse things are going to get.
YorkshireRover85 wrote:good managers tell/guide players exactly what to do. Good managers tell even substitute players what their job is when they come on. Appleton does not inspire confidence. You just need to look at him on touchline in last few home games, he looks like a rabbit in headlight and lost. The job looks too big for him. At start I said we need to give him 10 games to judge. He is even worst than I thought as he talked a good talk at beginning. I dont blame him as his wage was reportedly doubled but it comes down to Venkys who dont give much thought when appointing managers.moh wrote:Campbell had scored 10goals in a rubbish Ipswich team this season, and everyone when signing him didn't see it as a problem, hindsight is a wonderful thing. Ruben was a liability all the way, it was too infrequent that he produced the "quality" everyone refers too, and too frequently he lost the ball, refused to give an easy pass. I do agree his judgement has been poor at times, and the football is moving back to Big Sam, but if it produced the same results as then I would be ok for that at the moment. It's why I think we need to give him the summer to try and sort this mess out, because its not his mess but the Keans mess which still hasn't been addressed. If we keep hounding out managers after 10games or so in charge, who is realistically going to want to manage/own the club?YorkshireRover85 wrote: Don't get me wrong...I'm not defending recent performances from Appleton or the players. But this disaster is not Appletons fault. We have as he's already said players who aren't prepared to put the shift in for the club. But we have such an unbalanced/injured squad that we have to rely on some of these players to help us out. Yes tactics have been all wrong recently which I admit doesn't bode well for the immediate future, but we need to back Appleton for the next 10 games, because as bad as things are now, if we turn on the team even more we could end up staring oblivion in the face with relegation. All that really matters is staying in this league this season. FA Cup was a nice run, but a distraction from what is really important. Me personally, we need to give Appleton and the team backing from now to end of season and starting soon as the final whistle blows on the last day of the season, the club needs to sort out the mess. I believe Appleton should be given the summer to try and clear out all the deadwood and actually bring in proven championship players who will bring more quality and look at how Huddersfield played last season to see how to get even more from Rhodes, who quite frankly with 20+ goals this season with the service he's received is unbelievable.Appletons judgement is poor. What a poor decision to let Ruben and Vukevich go and get his mates Campbell, Rekik and others who have been poor, Ruben made things happen and was joy to watch although his final ball at times was'nt right. Appleton's record at Blackpool is there for all to see. It does'nt seem Venkys have learnt from past mistakes as they keep appointing average manager with no tactical nouse. Appleton looks like a second rated Sam Allardyce. He is trying to emulate Sams hoofball but not good at it.
We need to give him to ability to put together a squad of players who want to be here and not just for the ridiculous wages we currently pay out.
All I'm saying is judge him 10 games into next season after a full pre-season, if still going wrong, he had a good chance then fair enough. Can't call time on the guy already with a squad that isn't his
Just look at the impact Billy Davies has had at Forest in less than 2 months.
A quality manager would have had results with this Rovers team by now.
Another cone placer promoted above his ability by corrupt 3rd rate snakes who claim to be managing the club and incompentent owners whose gullability knows no bounds.
pepperpot2296
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6:34pm Thu 14 Mar 13
I don,t get to Ewood anymore the day the Venkys sacked BS was the last time I turned up there, which is about the last time a ROVERS TEAM TURNED UP. A disgraceful state of affairs and I am glad it was such a small gate so that it does not put any money the Venkys pockets.The season is over early for another year, except the battle to stay in the championship, I would not bet against this growing set of spineless lazy could not care less players to go right through to the lower divisions.What a depressing region East Lancs has become, what with Rovers, Burnley and Accrington Stanley, but it is Rovers who have fallen the furthest and are still in free fall.The lowest ranked Lancashire team in the division the players must be very proud of themselves.I THINK NOT!!!!!
Jeff Wayne
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8:40pm Thu 14 Mar 13
I am completely speechless about last night!! If our players played with have the effort and passion the Millwall played with we would be going to Wembely.
For me We should bin the 1st team squad for the visit of or 6 fingered inbred friends from down the M65 and use our youth squad, let Appy 'sit in' with Gary and hopefully he will pick up some managerial skills.
I just can't see where we go from here, especially if we loose on sunday.
For me We should bin the 1st team squad for the visit of or 6 fingered inbred friends from down the M65 and use our youth squad, let Appy 'sit in' with Gary and hopefully he will pick up some managerial skills.
I just can't see where we go from here, especially if we loose on sunday.
CheltRover
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9:17pm Thu 14 Mar 13
toz73_asfc wrote:Oh yeah replace one inec
MR GARY BOWYER - BEST WE'VE HAD FOR TWO YEARS!!!
GET HIM BACK NOW- PLEASE!!!!
gleechy
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9:45pm Thu 14 Mar 13
Angry From Accrington wrote:Are u stupid? Why on earth would someone who had inherited something they didn't want have to hold on to it?
gleechy wrote:Eeeeeeerm, If the Walker Trust hadn't sold.........Venky's couldn't have bought?
Angry From Accrington wrote:How on earth can previous owners affect current situation? Which only occurred when current owners had full charge. I know it is not a heavily supported club, but your backhanded comment critisising the previous owners is suspicious to say the least. They could not get rid quick enough, so what? They held it together whilst they had the riegns. They don't give their agenda to the next owners and tell them what to do, maybe they should of. Only the brain dead didn't realise that the club needed a trusted Manager after being run down so long with a rookie in charge. If your Venks are so unblameable, why are they giving good wages to bad footballers in lieu of poor supporter numbers? They had their big chance to bring in a good footballing brain when the Rookie left, and by goodness it took them long enough to mess that up as well with another Rookie. Why have they got no good football brains left at Ewood? The answer is quite simple, They don't care about football, they are responsible for the colapse of this mighty club, end of.gleechy wrote:Sorry but you are wrong. You HAVE to go back before Venky's to get to the rea cause and that is too few fans paying too little money to support a Premiership Club. That's what persuaded the Walker Trust to sell and they could not get rid quickly enough as soon as the cash was on the table. Admittedly, since then, Venky's have made the mistake of taking advice from Snake Oil Salesman and the only way back is the appointment of an ambitious, straight talking manager, back by a chairman who can manage upwards. Souness and Williams, where are you?Irish knowledge wrote: Right we are in serious trouble. Here is the truth and reality. 1) We no longer have enough fans to sustain our once great club. An attendance of 8k in fa cup q final with a real chance to get to wembley is terrible. Our attendances in league are 13k. Therefore we are headed to become an average championship team with a similar pay scale as Burnley and free bees and loan signings. We already have cheapest tickets and still cant sell out. Now i know blackburn is only a town of 100k in working class area of Uk, so it is understandable that we cant fill our ground. However that just confirms our status as a small championship club without the premier league money. 2) of course fans blame venkys but i would argue that since we got relagated they have tried to rectify things apart from not firing kean straight away. But it seems like people are just going to continue to blame them even though we have spent the most money of any championship side. I would blame the mgt of the club, the board, and the players for this season. I do not blame venky s for Blackburn losing to milwall. 3) now fans want Appleton out!! He should not have been appointed but we cant fire every manager after a spell of bad results. Now more fans wont return because of Appleton which will prob cause attendance to go even lower. We have had too many managers and i reckon we have prob signed 20 players since relegation which is way too much. Im starting to wonder if the people of blackburn want a club. Its like they want the club to fail so they can just say i told you so. To have a club with such prestige and history in Blackburn is a great thing. If everyone is going to be so negative the whole time the club is doomed to history.My goodness you haven't been following football very long have you? If you try looking any further than Venkys for the problem, you;ve gone too far, and you'll go round in circles until you eventually wind up with Venks being the problem. Players are unable to play, board members are unable to do their jobs properly, and if you look at some of the shower that they have employed like Shaw and Singh, they would never be able to make a good club even without these restraints. Football is one of the last things on these self righteous owner's minds. Look no further, the downward spiral will continue until they are history.
Where did I say Venky's were blameless? Of course they are guilty of being gullible and naiive but, they are still bankrolling a club with a playing staff bigger than many Premiership sides.
So what you're saying is you don't have a point?
fragileworld
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9:48pm Thu 14 Mar 13
BOYCOTT EVERY MATCH FROM NOW ON UNTIL VENKYS SELL OUT
Its the only way to save our club,nothing less will do.We will not survive
in the 1st Div. with the present set-up.Its up to you fans ,the real fans I mean
GET RID OF THE ROTTEN APPLES IN THE BARREL !!!!!!!!!
Its the only way to save our club,nothing less will do.We will not survive
in the 1st Div. with the present set-up.Its up to you fans ,the real fans I mean
GET RID OF THE ROTTEN APPLES IN THE BARREL !!!!!!!!!
French Rover
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8:47am Fri 15 Mar 13
fragileworld wrote:Go and boycott yourself you surrender monkey - fragile head never mind fragile world. The only rotten apples are the fans who want to jump ship when the club is in trouble. So go ahead and jump and take some of the other surrender monkeys with you..
BOYCOTT EVERY MATCH FROM NOW ON UNTIL VENKYS SELL OUT
Its the only way to save our club,nothing less will do.We will not survive
in the 1st Div. with the present set-up.Its up to you fans ,the real fans I mean
GET RID OF THE ROTTEN APPLES IN THE BARREL !!!!!!!!!
noddy57
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9:47am Fri 15 Mar 13
fragileworld wrote:sometimes drastic situations call for drastic measures,,and it may come to that,l said at the time we should leave bowyer in charge till the end of the season and then ensure we got a proven manager in place,simple logic,,its as if these clowns want to dismantle our club,
BOYCOTT EVERY MATCH FROM NOW ON UNTIL VENKYS SELL OUT
Its the only way to save our club,nothing less will do.We will not survive
in the 1st Div. with the present set-up.Its up to you fans ,the real fans I mean
GET RID OF THE ROTTEN APPLES IN THE BARREL !!!!!!!!!
YorkshireRover85
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10:21am Fri 15 Mar 13
benal13 wrote:So a managers tactically ability is directly linked to his ability to shout on the touchline? I believe Steve Kean and Paul Ince were pretty animated on the side of the pitch.
P888HOW wrote:i think you agree with me ??????????????benal13 wrote:Give Him a chance ? What in the 1st division !! rovers had a goal kick with 30 seconds to go what the keeper did ,is something i have never seen before a short pass to a defender when the ball should been wellied up field towards their goal,for a goal scoring chance. "unbelieveable" Appleton stood on touch line mouth open most of the match,not shouting directions,as Kenny Jackett was. I cant take this cr@p football anymore.so i bid a sad but fond farewell to my Rovers!!!YorkshireRover85 wrote:ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ HEARD IT ALL BEFOR GIVE HIM A CHANCE GIVE HIM CHANCE GIVE HIM A CHANCE out with the chancers !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!moh wrote:Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he is the long term answer, but the guy needs a chance to put together a squad of his players and not just players inherited from the Kean era. Too many players on too much money playing too often out of position. We can't blame him for the mentality of the club at the moment. I admit, I would of wanted a better return of the recent games, but the aim has to be now to stay in this division, and write off this year like the last 2. We can't keep trying the reset button because the more we use it the worse things are going to get. We need to give him to ability to put together a squad of players who want to be here and not just for the ridiculous wages we currently pay out. All I'm saying is judge him 10 games into next season after a full pre-season, if still going wrong, he had a good chance then fair enough. Can't call time on the guy already with a squad that isn't hisYorkshireRover85 wrote:good managers tell/guide players exactly what to do. Good managers tell even substitute players what their job is when they come on. Appleton does not inspire confidence. You just need to look at him on touchline in last few home games, he looks like a rabbit in headlight and lost. The job looks too big for him. At start I said we need to give him 10 games to judge. He is even worst than I thought as he talked a good talk at beginning. I dont blame him as his wage was reportedly doubled but it comes down to Venkys who dont give much thought when appointing managers.moh wrote:Campbell had scored 10goals in a rubbish Ipswich team this season, and everyone when signing him didn't see it as a problem, hindsight is a wonderful thing. Ruben was a liability all the way, it was too infrequent that he produced the "quality" everyone refers too, and too frequently he lost the ball, refused to give an easy pass. I do agree his judgement has been poor at times, and the football is moving back to Big Sam, but if it produced the same results as then I would be ok for that at the moment. It's why I think we need to give him the summer to try and sort this mess out, because its not his mess but the Keans mess which still hasn't been addressed. If we keep hounding out managers after 10games or so in charge, who is realistically going to want to manage/own the club?YorkshireRover85 wrote: Don't get me wrong...I'm not defending recent performances from Appleton or the players. But this disaster is not Appletons fault. We have as he's already said players who aren't prepared to put the shift in for the club. But we have such an unbalanced/injured squad that we have to rely on some of these players to help us out. Yes tactics have been all wrong recently which I admit doesn't bode well for the immediate future, but we need to back Appleton for the next 10 games, because as bad as things are now, if we turn on the team even more we could end up staring oblivion in the face with relegation. All that really matters is staying in this league this season. FA Cup was a nice run, but a distraction from what is really important. Me personally, we need to give Appleton and the team backing from now to end of season and starting soon as the final whistle blows on the last day of the season, the club needs to sort out the mess. I believe Appleton should be given the summer to try and clear out all the deadwood and actually bring in proven championship players who will bring more quality and look at how Huddersfield played last season to see how to get even more from Rhodes, who quite frankly with 20+ goals this season with the service he's received is unbelievable.Appletons judgement is poor. What a poor decision to let Ruben and Vukevich go and get his mates Campbell, Rekik and others who have been poor, Ruben made things happen and was joy to watch although his final ball at times was'nt right. Appleton's record at Blackpool is there for all to see. It does'nt seem Venkys have learnt from past mistakes as they keep appointing average manager with no tactical nouse. Appleton looks like a second rated Sam Allardyce. He is trying to emulate Sams hoofball but not good at it.
Also your point about smashing it upfield contradicts practically every other post on here bemoaning the ability to pass the ball and Shittu winning everything in there air all night long.
Like I said, I'm not saying he is the right guy, just the fact that Rovers fans have got into a cycle of 10games and if we don't win them all were calling for a change in manager. Appleton hasn't even had a chance except for a shoddy loan market to put together a squad of players he thinks will do the job.
DanBlackburn - I agree with what Billy Davies has done at Forest, and I would of had him here as my 1st choice after Berg, but we didn't get him. We got Appleton, and it I haven't said he will definately come good, but the guy hasn't (I'm saying it again) had a chance to do anything yet.
On paper we do have a good squad, but its of players who used to be good on premier league wages, not of players on championship wages working to get into the premier league. No incentive...Appleton
s fault, or Venkys/Singh?
Angry From Accrington
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1:15pm Fri 15 Mar 13
gleechy wrote:You really are as stupid as you sound aren't you? They didn't inherit it , it was entrusted to them ( the clue is in the name ) to control and manage responsibly, not sell to the first unqualified bidder who just happen to have enough cash but insufficient knowledge of the game. I have a point..........and I have a brain.
Angry From Accrington wrote:Are u stupid? Why on earth would someone who had inherited something they didn't want have to hold on to it? So what you're saying is you don't have a point?gleechy wrote:Eeeeeeerm, If the Walker Trust hadn't sold.........Venky's couldn't have bought? Where did I say Venky's were blameless? Of course they are guilty of being gullible and naiive but, they are still bankrolling a club with a playing staff bigger than many Premiership sides.Angry From Accrington wrote:How on earth can previous owners affect current situation? Which only occurred when current owners had full charge. I know it is not a heavily supported club, but your backhanded comment critisising the previous owners is suspicious to say the least. They could not get rid quick enough, so what? They held it together whilst they had the riegns. They don't give their agenda to the next owners and tell them what to do, maybe they should of. Only the brain dead didn't realise that the club needed a trusted Manager after being run down so long with a rookie in charge. If your Venks are so unblameable, why are they giving good wages to bad footballers in lieu of poor supporter numbers? They had their big chance to bring in a good footballing brain when the Rookie left, and by goodness it took them long enough to mess that up as well with another Rookie. Why have they got no good football brains left at Ewood? The answer is quite simple, They don't care about football, they are responsible for the colapse of this mighty club, end of.gleechy wrote:Sorry but you are wrong. You HAVE to go back before Venky's to get to the rea cause and that is too few fans paying too little money to support a Premiership Club. That's what persuaded the Walker Trust to sell and they could not get rid quickly enough as soon as the cash was on the table. Admittedly, since then, Venky's have made the mistake of taking advice from Snake Oil Salesman and the only way back is the appointment of an ambitious, straight talking manager, back by a chairman who can manage upwards. Souness and Williams, where are you?Irish knowledge wrote: Right we are in serious trouble. Here is the truth and reality. 1) We no longer have enough fans to sustain our once great club. An attendance of 8k in fa cup q final with a real chance to get to wembley is terrible. Our attendances in league are 13k. Therefore we are headed to become an average championship team with a similar pay scale as Burnley and free bees and loan signings. We already have cheapest tickets and still cant sell out. Now i know blackburn is only a town of 100k in working class area of Uk, so it is understandable that we cant fill our ground. However that just confirms our status as a small championship club without the premier league money. 2) of course fans blame venkys but i would argue that since we got relagated they have tried to rectify things apart from not firing kean straight away. But it seems like people are just going to continue to blame them even though we have spent the most money of any championship side. I would blame the mgt of the club, the board, and the players for this season. I do not blame venky s for Blackburn losing to milwall. 3) now fans want Appleton out!! He should not have been appointed but we cant fire every manager after a spell of bad results. Now more fans wont return because of Appleton which will prob cause attendance to go even lower. We have had too many managers and i reckon we have prob signed 20 players since relegation which is way too much. Im starting to wonder if the people of blackburn want a club. Its like they want the club to fail so they can just say i told you so. To have a club with such prestige and history in Blackburn is a great thing. If everyone is going to be so negative the whole time the club is doomed to history.My goodness you haven't been following football very long have you? If you try looking any further than Venkys for the problem, you;ve gone too far, and you'll go round in circles until you eventually wind up with Venks being the problem. Players are unable to play, board members are unable to do their jobs properly, and if you look at some of the shower that they have employed like Shaw and Singh, they would never be able to make a good club even without these restraints. Football is one of the last things on these self righteous owner's minds. Look no further, the downward spiral will continue until they are history.
blueblooded
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10:40pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Gammon Flap wrote:Lets face it swine ballsack, if you cant beat us this Sunday when we are without doubt at our weakest and lowest, you spouse fondlers will deserve the scorn that you've enjoyed for so many decades from us.
MUST BLAME SOMEBODY - this is the mantra of all you inbred saps.
It's all the fault of Venkys (Despite you paying THE MOST MONEY in the entire division on transfer fees in the summer - but this of course doesn't fit in with your complaining so it sems to have been glossed over)
It used to be the fault of Jerome Anderson, now he's gone, it isn't
It is Shaw's fault
It used to be the fault of Shebby Singh - but apparently now it isn't
It is all Hendry's fault
It is all Danny Murphy's fault
it is all Michael Appleton's fault - this is the funniest one, the guy is your THIRD manager this season and already the vast majority of you horse-fondlers want him out.
Pathetic club, pathetic fans, pathetic team and about to be finally owned by your nearest neighbours.
3 Years
See you Sunday ;-)
French Rover
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10:26am Sat 16 Mar 13
Jeff Wayne wrote:waynes world what a depressing place to be...never lose to the scum mate dont worry!
I am completely speechless about last night!! If our players played with have the effort and passion the Millwall played with we would be going to Wembely.
For me We should bin the 1st team squad for the visit of or 6 fingered inbred friends from down the M65 and use our youth squad, let Appy 'sit in' with Gary and hopefully he will pick up some managerial skills.
I just can't see where we go from here, especially if we loose on sunday.
A Darener says...
10:27pm Wed 13 Mar 13