Loan market frustrating Blackburn Rovers boss (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Whats hapopened to Nunes?

Brears wrote:
Whats hapopened to Nunes?

He must be on a dodgy Venkys contract.
There is no way would you keep playing Pederson before Nunes. Unfortunately Pedersons days are way behind him, he has been a great servant to the club but anybody could do what he does now and thats turns and hoof, his pace has gone also, what pace he had but his ball retention and distribution are awful.
Nunes is exactly the type of player Appleton keeps harping on about that he is looking to bring in. If this guy is still injured I would be amazed. He has pace which is what Appleton wants, agreed he has some misplaced passed but who else in the team do we have now whom will try and beat a man?????? NOBODY!!!!!

'He is injured' is the simpler answer...

GAZHAY wrote:

Brears wrote:
Whats hapopened to Nunes?

He must be on a dodgy Venkys contract.
There is no way would you keep playing Pederson before Nunes. Unfortunately Pedersons days are way behind him, he has been a great servant to the club but anybody could do what he does now and thats turns and hoof, his pace has gone also, what pace he had but his ball retention and distribution are awful.
Nunes is exactly the type of player Appleton keeps harping on about that he is looking to bring in. If this guy is still injured I would be amazed. He has pace which is what Appleton wants, agreed he has some misplaced passed but who else in the team do we have now whom will try and beat a man?????? NOBODY!!!!!

While in many respects I agree with you, Pedersens speed has left him. However he's also top of our assists table, an we haven't won a league game since he was taken OFF the right wing.

Whether people like him or not, he defends well and attacks well. He makes mistakes sure, but name one player who doesn't? I can name 3 who make much worse mistakes than Pedersen and yet play day in day out (4 if you include Rochina, thank god he's gone).

More Keanesque low-level detail windbagging about a situation that has been precipitated by the actions of our ignorant owners over the last two years. Scratching around to get a Reading reserve in as cover for a few weeks? Hardly commensurate with Premier League aspirations is it?

Welcome back to the eighties (if we're lucky).

OnePostThenTheOther wrote:
More Keanesque low-level detail windbagging about a situation that has been precipitated by the actions of our ignorant owners over the last two years. Scratching around to get a Reading reserve in as cover for a few weeks? Hardly commensurate with Premier League aspirations is it?

Welcome back to the eighties (if we're lucky).

Absolutely right and Mr A asks the players who wants to be part of the clubs success - what a bloody joke!!!
My view has never wavered we now have second rate players, second rate manager, second rate board of directors and owner who are strapped for cash!!
OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM

RoverTheHill wrote:

GAZHAY wrote:

Brears wrote: Whats hapopened to Nunes?

He must be on a dodgy Venkys contract. There is no way would you keep playing Pederson before Nunes. Unfortunately Pedersons days are way behind him, he has been a great servant to the club but anybody could do what he does now and thats turns and hoof, his pace has gone also, what pace he had but his ball retention and distribution are awful. Nunes is exactly the type of player Appleton keeps harping on about that he is looking to bring in. If this guy is still injured I would be amazed. He has pace which is what Appleton wants, agreed he has some misplaced passed but who else in the team do we have now whom will try and beat a man?????? NOBODY!!!!!

While in many respects I agree with you, Pedersens speed has left him. However he's also top of our assists table, an we haven't won a league game since he was taken OFF the right wing. Whether people like him or not, he defends well and attacks well. He makes mistakes sure, but name one player who doesn't? I can name 3 who make much worse mistakes than Pedersen and yet play day in day out (4 if you include Rochina, thank god he's gone).

Pederson himself said last year he has difficulty tracking back when he was beaten easily by odemwingie. He just stood there and let odemwingie run past him and made no attempt to track back. Odemwingie scored. You may lose your pace but atleast make an attempt. In last game as well he had to be taken off as he kept giving the ball away and not defending. He has lost his pace and if rovers have any ambition in getting into premeirship than players like Pederson need to go. He is a nice bloke and served rovers well in past but the days comes for any player when they need to move on or hang their boots. Rochina is a loss as some of his passes were wayward but he could run at players, twist them round and make things happen which other rovers players cannot do.

The loan market wouldn't have been " frustrating Appleton " if our silent owners had provided money for proper players during the January transfer window.
They successfully negotiated their way through the month without having to spend a penny.........Ambiti
ous ?

Disagree with the comments regarding Pedersen. He is calm on the ball. And that is something that very few of our players are now - thanks to the fact we have loaned out three who were in Formica, Rochina, Rosado. Surely for these last couple of months of the season it would have been better to have had those three here and try to create a team that keeps possession and takes games to teams - rather than attempting to loan Jay Tabb from Reading! The only way we will get out of this league next season is by playing attacking possession football. Then we might actually be able to pass the ball to Rhodes! Short term thinking has cost us - hope it hasn't cost us for building for next season. Rochina and Rosado could have really chipped in at the end of this season for us. We have lacked a lot of decisive movement off the ball, little runs to beat players, and killer through balls. No one seems to know how to pass the ball forward at the moment.

dangerous dave wrote:

OnePostThenTheOther wrote:
More Keanesque low-level detail windbagging about a situation that has been precipitated by the actions of our ignorant owners over the last two years. Scratching around to get a Reading reserve in as cover for a few weeks? Hardly commensurate with Premier League aspirations is it?

Welcome back to the eighties (if we're lucky).

Absolutely right and Mr A asks the players who wants to be part of the clubs success - what a bloody joke!!!
My view has never wavered we now have second rate players, second rate manager, second rate board of directors and owner who are strapped for cash!!
OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM

You left yourself of the list Dingle Dave but then 4 th rate would be step up for you.
Funny how this site fills up with negative nonsense as soon as we get a bad result or two, note how almost none of the real supporters who actually attend are commenting but every negative sign on is there
It is so very obvious, you are fooling no one Mr Negative with your multitude, nay indeed host, of bogus accounts.
Sad man, get a life...

Dangerous Dave you are a bit of a prat but I value your precise ramblings because they give me a rare laugh in these tough times..I always thought of myself as being quite dangerous but then one day I chickened out of going on the big one in Blackpool, I've been emotionally tarred ever since.

dangerous dave wrote:

OnePostThenTheOther wrote:
More Keanesque low-level detail windbagging about a situation that has been precipitated by the actions of our ignorant owners over the last two years. Scratching around to get a Reading reserve in as cover for a few weeks? Hardly commensurate with Premier League aspirations is it?

Welcome back to the eighties (if we're lucky).

Absolutely right and Mr A asks the players who wants to be part of the clubs success - what a bloody joke!!!
My view has never wavered we now have second rate players, second rate manager, second rate board of directors and owner who are strapped for cash!!
OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM

And a second rate dingle clown numpter poster who goes by the name of Dangerous Dave. Fortunately he fools no-one with his constant negative bollax and should do us all a favour.

Has anyone actually wondered whether or not Venky's still actually own us? My mate Wayne down the bookies reckons they sold a %75 share of the club to an African prince called Asamad Smith..it makes a lot of sense to me!

It would be good if we could get another good midfielder to boost the squad and provide some ammo for the forwards along with Bentley. Forget 10 minute Dunny as he will probably only play a couple of games at the end of the season to see if he can scrounge another contract extension. Decent player though on his day but time to retire or go and help Stanley.

dangerous dave wrote:

OnePostThenTheOther wrote: More Keanesque low-level detail windbagging about a situation that has been precipitated by the actions of our ignorant owners over the last two years. Scratching around to get a Reading reserve in as cover for a few weeks? Hardly commensurate with Premier League aspirations is it? Welcome back to the eighties (if we're lucky).

Absolutely right and Mr A asks the players who wants to be part of the clubs success - what a bloody joke!!! My view has never wavered we now have second rate players, second rate manager, second rate board of directors and owner who are strapped for cash!! OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM

We are a second rate team now, accept it. Average champ team. We cant go getting Chelsea or mancity benchers, we have to sign lower prem side players who are not wanted by their club.
Its hard, but thats the situation.

Wild Rover wrote:

dangerous dave wrote:

OnePostThenTheOther wrote:
More Keanesque low-level detail windbagging about a situation that has been precipitated by the actions of our ignorant owners over the last two years. Scratching around to get a Reading reserve in as cover for a few weeks? Hardly commensurate with Premier League aspirations is it?

Welcome back to the eighties (if we're lucky).

Absolutely right and Mr A asks the players who wants to be part of the clubs success - what a bloody joke!!!
My view has never wavered we now have second rate players, second rate manager, second rate board of directors and owner who are strapped for cash!!
OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM

You left yourself of the list Dingle Dave but then 4 th rate would be step up for you.
Funny how this site fills up with negative nonsense as soon as we get a bad result or two, note how almost none of the real supporters who actually attend are commenting but every negative sign on is there
It is so very obvious, you are fooling no one Mr Negative with your multitude, nay indeed host, of bogus accounts.
Sad man, get a life...

Hello Wild Rover.
Perhaps the real supporters who actually attend have gone quiet and are not commenting because they are finally seeing the light.
We can only hold onto so much optimism before reality kicks in.

Simply shouldn't have let playes go out on loan until he had the right replacements... as each day goes by he sounds more like Kean, with his excuses. MA brought rubbish in on loan & insists on playing them for 90 mins, at the same time other squad members are left sat on the bench & not given a chance to "stake a claim" & show whether they are good enough to stay at the club. When did coaching & managing the players you have go so out of fashion? Now it's just buy or loan or they can't do the job they are well (OVER)payed for!

leonm987 wrote:

dangerous dave wrote:

OnePostThenTheOther wrote: More Keanesque low-level detail windbagging about a situation that has been precipitated by the actions of our ignorant owners over the last two years. Scratching around to get a Reading reserve in as cover for a few weeks? Hardly commensurate with Premier League aspirations is it? Welcome back to the eighties (if we're lucky).

Absolutely right and Mr A asks the players who wants to be part of the clubs success - what a bloody joke!!! My view has never wavered we now have second rate players, second rate manager, second rate board of directors and owner who are strapped for cash!! OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM

We are a second rate team now, accept it. Average champ team. We cant go getting Chelsea or mancity benchers, we have to sign lower prem side players who are not wanted by their club.
Its hard, but thats the situation.

Looks like you have meekly accepted the carnage that Venkys have wreaked upon the club this last couple of years. Some of us are not happy to accept it, and why should we be.

GAZHAY wrote:

Brears wrote:
Whats hapopened to Nunes?

He must be on a dodgy Venkys contract.
There is no way would you keep playing Pederson before Nunes. Unfortunately Pedersons days are way behind him, he has been a great servant to the club but anybody could do what he does now and thats turns and hoof, his pace has gone also, what pace he had but his ball retention and distribution are awful.
Nunes is exactly the type of player Appleton keeps harping on about that he is looking to bring in. If this guy is still injured I would be amazed. He has pace which is what Appleton wants, agreed he has some misplaced passed but who else in the team do we have now whom will try and beat a man?????? NOBODY!!!!!

Not sure which Nunez you guys have been watching. He's just a kid who can run fast with pretty poor ball control and ball skill. Nowhere near the standard required.

Agreed nobody should settle for where we are now but the decline at Rovers started with Venky's and it has progressed to having a very average team, poor management and more than likely one more year of Championship football

Is MA the man for the job? for me no, I think he was another poor hire, a desperate hire and he insists on brining subpar players in and out every week

I think he is just in survival mode to start over again next season

So to your point do we have to accept it, hell no but if you put lipstick on a pig, it is still a pig!!

The skinned monkey should never have let Formica, Rochina and Vucevij go

Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:

dangerous dave wrote:

OnePostThenTheOther wrote:
More Keanesque low-level detail windbagging about a situation that has been precipitated by the actions of our ignorant owners over the last two years. Scratching around to get a Reading reserve in as cover for a few weeks? Hardly commensurate with Premier League aspirations is it?

Welcome back to the eighties (if we're lucky).

Absolutely right and Mr A asks the players who wants to be part of the clubs success - what a bloody joke!!!
My view has never wavered we now have second rate players, second rate manager, second rate board of directors and owner who are strapped for cash!!
OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM

And a second rate dingle clown numpter poster who goes by the name of Dangerous Dave. Fortunately he fools no-one with his constant negative bollax and should do us all a favour.

Your out numbered with views from people with a 'brain' who can see what is going on at Ewood - RIP
OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM

Nunes mught not be ideal but you can't tell me he doesn't offer mroe than pederson and the other Olson

Apple is trying to ship out - and freeze out in case of Robbo, Givet -high earners and replace them with cheapos.
It's as simple as that.
Money first, second and third - then football.
He's doing a job for Venkys, not for Rovers fans, or the club's future.
I've been a Rovers fan for fifty years but fortunately travelled further afield than Preston - wake up some of you out there, can't you see whats's going on ? or so you prefer fantasy football on this site ?

well said noddy but some of the venky lovers wont agree and just say your stiring it, by the way 50yrs thats five life sentences in this country whens your testimonial?????????
??????

noddymcleod wrote:
Apple is trying to ship out - and freeze out in case of Robbo, Givet -high earners and replace them with cheapos.
It's as simple as that.
Money first, second and third - then football.
He's doing a job for Venkys, not for Rovers fans, or the club's future.
I've been a Rovers fan for fifty years but fortunately travelled further afield than Preston - wake up some of you out there, can't you see whats's going on ? or so you prefer fantasy football on this site ?

Freezing out and shipping out the high earners began shortly after Venkys arrived and is still going on. They won't be happy until they have offloaded the lot.
I've said all along, I don't believe Venkys are here for footballing reasons and have seen nothing from them to make me change my mind.
If Givet and Robbo go, which seems likely, that will be almost the entire Premiership team gone and replaced with inferiors. Is it not obvious what is going on?
Ambitious owners my backside, to put it politely.

Lot of moaning today when perhaps we should be a bit more realistic and remember this is not Jacks team or club anymore. In what is the real world today in a strange way I quite like actually having a chance to win every game and still playing for something worthwhile with a few games left. Dont get me wrong I went to Leicester and we were garbage but this is the hand Venkeys have dealt us and we have been poor since they arrived. Under the Walkers trust did we ever play for anything other than fourth from bottom in the premier with just a few seasons where we batted well above our station. When was the last time in that division we realistically went to any away game to win even under big sam we tried to grab a point but more often than not got hammered. I am not saying things are fine and dandy but this is Rovers 2013 and we have to get used to it and even try to enjoy it because the days of premier glory are probably long gone.Now lets not forget the good times but lets not think we have a right to have good times either whilst supporting the team through the bad times. Things have been worse many people are forgetting pre walker. Any way rant over , ive seen rovers win the league,win a cup, play in europe beat Man U home and away that dream is over and a new one begins on Saturday against The Posh as reality kicks back in !!!

OnePostThenTheOther wrote:
More Keanesque low-level detail windbagging about a situation that has been precipitated by the actions of our ignorant owners over the last two years. Scratching around to get a Reading reserve in as cover for a few weeks? Hardly commensurate with Premier League aspirations is it?

Welcome back to the eighties (if we're lucky).

Might come as a bit of a shock to you but we aren't a Premier League side, rather surprisingly Reading are.

Every Rovers fan knows we are desperately short of midfield cover, Appleton is trying to get midfield cover, for some strange reason I cant imagine established Premier League players wanting to join a struggling Championship side, can you?

The players hold all the cards, just look at Robinson and Givet, huge salaries, can't get the same money anywhere else so will stay put until their contracts run out even though they want to move on.

tugay please !! wrote:
Lot of moaning today when perhaps we should be a bit more realistic and remember this is not Jacks team or club anymore. In what is the real world today in a strange way I quite like actually having a chance to win every game and still playing for something worthwhile with a few games left. Dont get me wrong I went to Leicester and we were garbage but this is the hand Venkeys have dealt us and we have been poor since they arrived. Under the Walkers trust did we ever play for anything other than fourth from bottom in the premier with just a few seasons where we batted well above our station. When was the last time in that division we realistically went to any away game to win even under big sam we tried to grab a point but more often than not got hammered. I am not saying things are fine and dandy but this is Rovers 2013 and we have to get used to it and even try to enjoy it because the days of premier glory are probably long gone.Now lets not forget the good times but lets not think we have a right to have good times either whilst supporting the team through the bad times. Things have been worse many people are forgetting pre walker. Any way rant over , ive seen rovers win the league,win a cup, play in europe beat Man U home and away that dream is over and a new one begins on Saturday against The Posh as reality kicks back in !!!

Excellent post.

noddymcleod wrote:
Apple is trying to ship out - and freeze out in case of Robbo, Givet -high earners and replace them with cheapos. It's as simple as that. Money first, second and third - then football. He's doing a job for Venkys, not for Rovers fans, or the club's future. I've been a Rovers fan for fifty years but fortunately travelled further afield than Preston - wake up some of you out there, can't you see whats's going on ? or so you prefer fantasy football on this site ?

I don't blame Appleton, the owners have reportedly doubled his wages so his loyalty will be to them.

Well. Seems more people on here are joining us nay sayers and doom mongers. More people seeing the light. I fancy there will be many more if (when) we get beat at Millwall or shortly thereafter. Then its a long weary road to season end. Still, there's always next season isn't there? We can look foreward to some good signings then as we have only had one since the owners arrived - and he won't hang around much longer.

3-0 to the Rovers tomorrow (or any win) should shut that donut called deluded dave up for a few minutes at least....give us all a respite from his nonsense posts and cap locks.

i am a season ticket holder and i rarely go any more due to the lack of forward play ,the passing is awful and who coaches people like Lowe to turn towards his own goal everytime he receives a pass? Murphy is similar loves to pass sideways we need someone to run forward and disrupt their defenders like Bellamy does for Cardiff. Appleton sounds good making all the right noises but if he does not play Gomes we will struggle to score especiall without Richards who is the only player in the side who can win the ball up front and lay it off ina fashion.I think we are in for another goaless draw or 0-1 defeat as the midfiled is just too cautious.

How is it that Burnley can attract a good midfielder and Blackburn cant.

Ta, Benal. There's a thought - after fifty years support, you'd think any fan would be given a complimentary ticket or two.
As to Apple's loyalty, of course it will be to the owners - my point is that some of the ninnies on here don't seem to get that basic point when dreaming of what Apple should/could do.
To some extent all managers are mercenary, and under orders. But the degree to which that's true is absolutely crucial. Glaziers made Sir Alex sell Ronaldo to lower their debt. That Apple is a mercenary couldn't be more obvious if it was sprayed on your eyeballs.
Apple will be on a redundancy package in his contract unless he's a fool, so when Venkys go, he'll go.

Staggered.

Appletons inexperience, ineptitude and comic bungling comments are getting to becoming a joke now.

I guess one of his FIRST jobs was to assess all the players in his squad, which he must have done, for he has made decisions pretty early to send a number of them out on loan whilst others have stayed.

In amongst this assessment would I presume have been Gael Givets lack of fitness. Sitting with an expensive asset such as Givet would it not have occurred to Appleton and his fellow inept coaching staff that the guy needed extra fitness in order to be of VALUE to us in the run in / second half of the season.

If this had been done Givet would be ripped by now (since Appleton has been in for a considerable amount of time) never mind unfit. Ferguson seems to be able to do it with a 40 year old Giggs.

It would appear as if Appleton has barely spoken to Givet and other members of the Blackburn hierarchy / staff (Singh springs to mind from one of Appletons interviews) which does not signify a manager of strength.

I cringe at the next brainless, dense, dim, comment / action he comes out with next and we are just hearing snippets imagine the players having to listen to him everyday.

Oh sorry the next will be his team announcement for tomorrows game.

Shaw Agnew Coar - What have you done.

Loan market frustrating Blackburn!!!!!!!!!!!
!!

I thought Appleton had signed up his young GURU mate from Portsmouth who is meant to know the footballing game / market like no ones business and a U18 first team coach who knows the magic secret of getting out of this league.
(as quoted by Moore himself for he was going to pass it on to Appleton)

No the reason is because Appleton is not the EXPERIENCED manager that we required who would unlock premiership teams / squads doors. The last two good ones were Kane and King (Bergs influence with top premiership set ups) This guy cannot hold a candle to Hennings contacts and ultimate clout.

The two or three supposed loan signings were / are our last chance of getting into a playoff place (for key players are now out for a considerable period of time and no real signs of Best hitting the ground running) and this guy and his mates cannot ecure any.

Says it all

owd nick wrote:

tugay please !! wrote:
Lot of moaning today when perhaps we should be a bit more realistic and remember this is not Jacks team or club anymore. In what is the real world today in a strange way I quite like actually having a chance to win every game and still playing for something worthwhile with a few games left. Dont get me wrong I went to Leicester and we were garbage but this is the hand Venkeys have dealt us and we have been poor since they arrived. Under the Walkers trust did we ever play for anything other than fourth from bottom in the premier with just a few seasons where we batted well above our station. When was the last time in that division we realistically went to any away game to win even under big sam we tried to grab a point but more often than not got hammered. I am not saying things are fine and dandy but this is Rovers 2013 and we have to get used to it and even try to enjoy it because the days of premier glory are probably long gone.Now lets not forget the good times but lets not think we have a right to have good times either whilst supporting the team through the bad times. Things have been worse many people are forgetting pre walker. Any way rant over , ive seen rovers win the league,win a cup, play in europe beat Man U home and away that dream is over and a new one begins on Saturday against The Posh as reality kicks back in !!!

Excellent post.

I respect your comments however I think some of us did and probabaly do think we can still do it,

I will be of that opinion until it is mathematically impossible for us to get promoted.

I was even hoping that a couple of key loan signings would be enough to clinch us a palyoff place and then who knows a place back in the premiership beckoning. Thats why the posts are still of the kind reflecting this.

If the stage comes when we cannot mathematically make the playoffs / get promoted then the real reality will set in for I beleive we will be in the Premkership wilderness for decades for as night follws day we will lose

Kean
Rhodes
CKR
Olsson
Dann
Hanley

before this time next year hampering any chance of getting back to the Premiership.

Someone yesterday mentioned Cardiff as an example - forget it - they have owners who are clearly set on Premiership status not like ours unfortunately.

So MA is frustrated with the loan market sat there on his big salary, he wants to try sitting in the Blackburn end paying to watch what he is bringing in, now that's frustration Mr Appleton!

owd nick wrote:

OnePostThenTheOther wrote:
More Keanesque low-level detail windbagging about a situation that has been precipitated by the actions of our ignorant owners over the last two years. Scratching around to get a Reading reserve in as cover for a few weeks? Hardly commensurate with Premier League aspirations is it?

Welcome back to the eighties (if we're lucky).

Might come as a bit of a shock to you but we aren't a Premier League side, rather surprisingly Reading are.

Every Rovers fan knows we are desperately short of midfield cover, Appleton is trying to get midfield cover, for some strange reason I cant imagine established Premier League players wanting to join a struggling Championship side, can you?

The players hold all the cards, just look at Robinson and Givet, huge salaries, can't get the same money anywhere else so will stay put until their contracts run out even though they want to move on.

It might come as a bit of a shock to you but succesful entities "invest for success" and "learn from their mistakes". We are "a struggling Championship side" because of Venkys.

Players have "held all the cards" for the last two decades.Only ignoramuses like Venkys still think that they can buck the trend and still be successful. What a pity they didn't put their hand in their pocket to secure somebody like Jermaine Jones from Champions League Schalke04 when we were in the Premiership, maybe we would stilll be there looking forward to the increased revenues of next seasn with somebody in midfield who plays like they actually give a sh!t.

If you are happy to watch somebody like Danny Strollabout Murphy pointing up and down the pitch and slicing passes whilst holding one hand over his bad eye and not complain and think that some never heard of from Reading is going to push this team forward then you have way lower expectations than me.

Venkys have f'd this club over good and proper. I will never accept that.

Angry From Accrington wrote:
The skinned monkey should never have let Formica, Rochina and Vucevij go

so true,,, lm afraid, the players batfink shipped out were in essence creative attackers,,hence the nullified negative non existant midfield we now have,,and if you expect goals against competent opposition with this set up,,then you must be as deluded as batfink,,

I am surprised, shocked and find it unbelievable
if anyone out on this planet ever thinks MA is a manager of any repute...!
he is not experienced
he has no prior skills, qualities that will cut him in management.

However, MA is experienced at one thing, and thats the reason hes here.
He is just about able to beg for trashy players who are unwanted at their clubs

And thats what players BRFC can just about pull....!!!!

But at the end of the day he MA is the current manager
and he has a job on his hands

Yes its difficult as its clear not many teams prepared to let good players out on loan......
hence hes left to bring in below average 2nd rate team players

Play offs is going to be extremely difficult

Best will play very little all season if at all as its likely his injury will prevent him.

This new player ex burnley
no chance of geting a game at ewood
just not good enough...!!!

0-0 tomorrow... attacking players & forwards still sat on bench at full time!?!?
Do hope I'm wrong & we win 5-0 & go on a winning steak of attacking football!!!
which of the above could be reality & which a dream...

please,,venkys ,,,,get rid of shaw,,,and appleton ,,pay some compensation and get mark robins in as soon as possible, we can turn this season round ,,but this is the only way,,

OnePostThenTheOther wrote:

owd nick wrote:

OnePostThenTheOther wrote:
More Keanesque low-level detail windbagging about a situation that has been precipitated by the actions of our ignorant owners over the last two years. Scratching around to get a Reading reserve in as cover for a few weeks? Hardly commensurate with Premier League aspirations is it?

Welcome back to the eighties (if we're lucky).

Might come as a bit of a shock to you but we aren't a Premier League side, rather surprisingly Reading are.

Every Rovers fan knows we are desperately short of midfield cover, Appleton is trying to get midfield cover, for some strange reason I cant imagine established Premier League players wanting to join a struggling Championship side, can you?

The players hold all the cards, just look at Robinson and Givet, huge salaries, can't get the same money anywhere else so will stay put until their contracts run out even though they want to move on.

It might come as a bit of a shock to you but succesful entities "invest for success" and "learn from their mistakes". We are "a struggling Championship side" because of Venkys.

Players have "held all the cards" for the last two decades.Only ignoramuses like Venkys still think that they can buck the trend and still be successful. What a pity they didn't put their hand in their pocket to secure somebody like Jermaine Jones from Champions League Schalke04 when we were in the Premiership, maybe we would stilll be there looking forward to the increased revenues of next seasn with somebody in midfield who plays like they actually give a sh!t.

If you are happy to watch somebody like Danny Strollabout Murphy pointing up and down the pitch and slicing passes whilst holding one hand over his bad eye and not complain and think that some never heard of from Reading is going to push this team forward then you have way lower expectations than me.

Venkys have f'd this club over good and proper. I will never accept that.

Can you change the past?

Does whinging and whining on a small provincial newspapers website turn you on?

How many people read and bother to post on these subjects?

JFHC "We lost a game of football, our 5th manager this season is crap, our owners are crap, yada, yada, yada."

In answer to your questions, no I am not happy about what has gone on at Ewood, or what is still going on for that matter, I am not happy with Venky's and what they have done to my club, or some of the players, or some of the signings.

But I am a Rovers fan and a realist, we are where we are because we deserve to be there, there is absolutely no point wittering on about past glories (sic) with Lardarse in charge.

We might not like what we see going forward but unless you invented time travel last week and forgot to tell anyone WE CAN'T GO BACK AND PUT IT RIGHT.

From the way your comments are phrased I suspect that you like me are still going down to Ewood, if that's the case, chapeau; but at the end of the season we both have a decision to make, mine will be based on how we perform between now and then and what happens close season.

I won't be getting "Early Bird" season tickets this time.

owd nick wrote:

OnePostThenTheOther wrote:

owd nick wrote:

OnePostThenTheOther wrote:
More Keanesque low-level detail windbagging about a situation that has been precipitated by the actions of our ignorant owners over the last two years. Scratching around to get a Reading reserve in as cover for a few weeks? Hardly commensurate with Premier League aspirations is it?

Welcome back to the eighties (if we're lucky).

Might come as a bit of a shock to you but we aren't a Premier League side, rather surprisingly Reading are.

Every Rovers fan knows we are desperately short of midfield cover, Appleton is trying to get midfield cover, for some strange reason I cant imagine established Premier League players wanting to join a struggling Championship side, can you?

The players hold all the cards, just look at Robinson and Givet, huge salaries, can't get the same money anywhere else so will stay put until their contracts run out even though they want to move on.

It might come as a bit of a shock to you but succesful entities "invest for success" and "learn from their mistakes". We are "a struggling Championship side" because of Venkys.

Players have "held all the cards" for the last two decades.Only ignoramuses like Venkys still think that they can buck the trend and still be successful. What a pity they didn't put their hand in their pocket to secure somebody like Jermaine Jones from Champions League Schalke04 when we were in the Premiership, maybe we would stilll be there looking forward to the increased revenues of next seasn with somebody in midfield who plays like they actually give a sh!t.

If you are happy to watch somebody like Danny Strollabout Murphy pointing up and down the pitch and slicing passes whilst holding one hand over his bad eye and not complain and think that some never heard of from Reading is going to push this team forward then you have way lower expectations than me.

Venkys have f'd this club over good and proper. I will never accept that.

Can you change the past?

Does whinging and whining on a small provincial newspapers website turn you on?

How many people read and bother to post on these subjects?

JFHC "We lost a game of football, our 5th manager this season is crap, our owners are crap, yada, yada, yada."

In answer to your questions, no I am not happy about what has gone on at Ewood, or what is still going on for that matter, I am not happy with Venky's and what they have done to my club, or some of the players, or some of the signings.

But I am a Rovers fan and a realist, we are where we are because we deserve to be there, there is absolutely no point wittering on about past glories (sic) with Lardarse in charge.

We might not like what we see going forward but unless you invented time travel last week and forgot to tell anyone WE CAN'T GO BACK AND PUT IT RIGHT.

From the way your comments are phrased I suspect that you like me are still going down to Ewood, if that's the case, chapeau; but at the end of the season we both have a decision to make, mine will be based on how we perform between now and then and what happens close season.

I won't be getting "Early Bird" season tickets this time.

I agree with some of your points but to say " we are were we are because we deserve to be " is plain wrong. We do not deserve to be here.
We are here because of greedy owners selling or getting rid of our top players and replacing them with what we have now
We are here because of the ridiculous decision to appoint an inexperienced, unheard of coach to run a Premiership football club.
We are here because the owners refuse to spend on quality, preferring loan players and free signings when other clubs are bringing in the best they can afford, like we used to do.
We are here because of Venkys ridiculous decisions and mismanagement of the club for over two years now , with no signs that they have learned from their mistakes.
I could go on and on but we all know what has happened.
We do not DESERVE to be were we are.

owd nick wrote:

OnePostThenTheOther wrote:

owd nick wrote:

OnePostThenTheOther wrote:
More Keanesque low-level detail windbagging about a situation that has been precipitated by the actions of our ignorant owners over the last two years. Scratching around to get a Reading reserve in as cover for a few weeks? Hardly commensurate with Premier League aspirations is it?

Welcome back to the eighties (if we're lucky).

Might come as a bit of a shock to you but we aren't a Premier League side, rather surprisingly Reading are.

Every Rovers fan knows we are desperately short of midfield cover, Appleton is trying to get midfield cover, for some strange reason I cant imagine established Premier League players wanting to join a struggling Championship side, can you?

The players hold all the cards, just look at Robinson and Givet, huge salaries, can't get the same money anywhere else so will stay put until their contracts run out even though they want to move on.

It might come as a bit of a shock to you but succesful entities "invest for success" and "learn from their mistakes". We are "a struggling Championship side" because of Venkys.

Players have "held all the cards" for the last two decades.Only ignoramuses like Venkys still think that they can buck the trend and still be successful. What a pity they didn't put their hand in their pocket to secure somebody like Jermaine Jones from Champions League Schalke04 when we were in the Premiership, maybe we would stilll be there looking forward to the increased revenues of next seasn with somebody in midfield who plays like they actually give a sh!t.

If you are happy to watch somebody like Danny Strollabout Murphy pointing up and down the pitch and slicing passes whilst holding one hand over his bad eye and not complain and think that some never heard of from Reading is going to push this team forward then you have way lower expectations than me.

Venkys have f'd this club over good and proper. I will never accept that.

Can you change the past?

Does whinging and whining on a small provincial newspapers website turn you on?

How many people read and bother to post on these subjects?

JFHC "We lost a game of football, our 5th manager this season is crap, our owners are crap, yada, yada, yada."

In answer to your questions, no I am not happy about what has gone on at Ewood, or what is still going on for that matter, I am not happy with Venky's and what they have done to my club, or some of the players, or some of the signings.

But I am a Rovers fan and a realist, we are where we are because we deserve to be there, there is absolutely no point wittering on about past glories (sic) with Lardarse in charge.

We might not like what we see going forward but unless you invented time travel last week and forgot to tell anyone WE CAN'T GO BACK AND PUT IT RIGHT.

From the way your comments are phrased I suspect that you like me are still going down to Ewood, if that's the case, chapeau; but at the end of the season we both have a decision to make, mine will be based on how we perform between now and then and what happens close season.

I won't be getting "Early Bird" season tickets this time.

It might come as a shock to you but you read them...
and comment on them, like you did on mine: so it obviously turns you on.

And you encouraged Venkys to think that everyting is hunky dory by buying a season ticket.

I go down to Ewood when it suts me. No more trailing back from wherever to use my season ticket on a Tuesday night. I go when it's convenient and every time I've been this season it has been to watch second rate long-ball, head-tennis Allardyce pap. I don't need a supercilious mug like you to judge whether I'm a proper fan or not.

I was working Leicester way early in the week, but decided to drive home regardless on Tuesday night, what a good decision that turned out to be.

If you want to accept that the current situation can't be put right then I suspect that you will bending over again for the early bird next season based on Venkys vacuous promises.

OnePostThenTheOther wrote:

owd nick wrote:

OnePostThenTheOther wrote:

owd nick wrote:

OnePostThenTheOther wrote:
More Keanesque low-level detail windbagging about a situation that has been precipitated by the actions of our ignorant owners over the last two years. Scratching around to get a Reading reserve in as cover for a few weeks? Hardly commensurate with Premier League aspirations is it?

Welcome back to the eighties (if we're lucky).

Might come as a bit of a shock to you but we aren't a Premier League side, rather surprisingly Reading are.

Every Rovers fan knows we are desperately short of midfield cover, Appleton is trying to get midfield cover, for some strange reason I cant imagine established Premier League players wanting to join a struggling Championship side, can you?

The players hold all the cards, just look at Robinson and Givet, huge salaries, can't get the same money anywhere else so will stay put until their contracts run out even though they want to move on.

It might come as a bit of a shock to you but succesful entities "invest for success" and "learn from their mistakes". We are "a struggling Championship side" because of Venkys.

Players have "held all the cards" for the last two decades.Only ignoramuses like Venkys still think that they can buck the trend and still be successful. What a pity they didn't put their hand in their pocket to secure somebody like Jermaine Jones from Champions League Schalke04 when we were in the Premiership, maybe we would stilll be there looking forward to the increased revenues of next seasn with somebody in midfield who plays like they actually give a sh!t.

If you are happy to watch somebody like Danny Strollabout Murphy pointing up and down the pitch and slicing passes whilst holding one hand over his bad eye and not complain and think that some never heard of from Reading is going to push this team forward then you have way lower expectations than me.

Venkys have f'd this club over good and proper. I will never accept that.

Can you change the past?

Does whinging and whining on a small provincial newspapers website turn you on?

How many people read and bother to post on these subjects?

JFHC "We lost a game of football, our 5th manager this season is crap, our owners are crap, yada, yada, yada."

In answer to your questions, no I am not happy about what has gone on at Ewood, or what is still going on for that matter, I am not happy with Venky's and what they have done to my club, or some of the players, or some of the signings.

But I am a Rovers fan and a realist, we are where we are because we deserve to be there, there is absolutely no point wittering on about past glories (sic) with Lardarse in charge.

We might not like what we see going forward but unless you invented time travel last week and forgot to tell anyone WE CAN'T GO BACK AND PUT IT RIGHT.

From the way your comments are phrased I suspect that you like me are still going down to Ewood, if that's the case, chapeau; but at the end of the season we both have a decision to make, mine will be based on how we perform between now and then and what happens close season.

I won't be getting "Early Bird" season tickets this time.

It might come as a shock to you but you read them...
and comment on them, like you did on mine: so it obviously turns you on.

And you encouraged Venkys to think that everyting is hunky dory by buying a season ticket.

I go down to Ewood when it suts me. No more trailing back from wherever to use my season ticket on a Tuesday night. I go when it's convenient and every time I've been this season it has been to watch second rate long-ball, head-tennis Allardyce pap. I don't need a supercilious mug like you to judge whether I'm a proper fan or not.

I was working Leicester way early in the week, but decided to drive home regardless on Tuesday night, what a good decision that turned out to be.

If you want to accept that the current situation can't be put right then I suspect that you will bending over again for the early bird next season based on Venkys vacuous promises.

LOL.

Just thought i'd say......!!!
facts and figures.....!!!

it would cost at least 35-50 M to buy BRFC,

it would cost at least 20- 30 M to get the players to achieve promotion

and
it would cost at least 40-60 M to run a decent team in premiership

and every year you'd have to spend atleast 10 -15 M to stay in Prem.

Anyone out there got that sort of money...??
Anyone know anyone with that amount
willing to invest in BRFC...?

One thing for sure No honest /real businessman would bother....!!!

hence being done with loan deals,..!