Appleton tips Orr for big role at Blackburn Rovers

9:39am Friday 8th February 2013 in Football Photograph of the Author By Andy Cryer, Blackburn Rovers reporter

MICHAEL Appleton is backing Bradley Orr to play a key role in Blackburn Rovers’ promotion push after hailing the full back as an “infectious character”.

Orr’s Rovers career looked doomed when he was allowed to leave on loan to tomorrow’s opponents Ipswich Town in November with global advisor Shebby Singh ready to extend the deal until the end of the season.

Appleton’s appointment as Rovers boss though saw the 30-year-old immediately recalled and Orr has been tipped by his boss to play an influential role at Ewood.

Orr returned to the line-up in Saturday’s comfortable 2-0 victory overBristol City and is expected to continue at right back against his former team-mates tomorrow.

Since being brought to the club by Steve Kean from QPR in January 2012, Orr has struggled to establish himself having received criticism from sections of supporters for an interview supporting Kean and subsequently falling out of favour with Singh. Now though, back at Ewood Park and offering competition to the currently injured Adam Henley, Appleton is relishing having him as part of his squad.

Appleton said of his performance against Bristol City: “It was a solid performance from Brad against one of the clubs he was at for a long time.

“I am delighted for him. He is one of those players who everybody loves at the football club. He is good company as well and it is good we have him back at the club.

“He is an infectious character. Although it may not have been a great start to his career at Blackburn, I don’t think he can blamed for any part in that.

“I think there are other people out there who can be blamed for a part in it. He has done nothing wrong as far as I am concerned and he will come in and do well for us until the end of the season.”

The Rovers boss has also again stressed the importance of being hard to beat after seeing his side record two successive clean sheets.

“I am delighted with two clean sheets,” said Appleton. “Jordan Rhodes will have got all the plaudits the other day but there were some very good performances in the back four.

“We have had to deal with a lot of long balls. Scott Dann and Grant Hanley were unsung heroes at times, Brad and Martin Olsson as well in dealing with a lot of diagonal balls.

“It was never going to be pretty. It is impossible to be pretty when you come up against a side that play like Bristol City did. I am not worried about that in the slightest little bit.

“Ipswich will be a different game, as Brighton was, and we treat every game as it comes. But it is like anything, if you play really, really well but lose no one cares.”

Meanwhile Rovers will today hope to add the loan signing of DJ Campbell from QPR but West Brom are reluctant to allow Jerome Thomas to leave The Hawthorns.

Comments (69)

9:45am Fri 8 Feb 13

Angry From Accrington says...

As infectious as a virus
As infectious as a virus Angry From Accrington

9:46am Fri 8 Feb 13

dangerous dave says...

Infectious character/good company - does'nt make him a quality footballer - what a load of bloody dribble - awful player and certainly not Championship/Premier
ship material - this is the first load of rubbish to come from Mr Appletons mouth and I hope its the last!!!
Orr just is not good enough and I hope this is not the first sign of cheap second raters to be playing for the club!!
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH HENDRY VENKYS COAR
Infectious character/good company - does'nt make him a quality footballer - what a load of bloody dribble - awful player and certainly not Championship/Premier ship material - this is the first load of rubbish to come from Mr Appletons mouth and I hope its the last!!! Orr just is not good enough and I hope this is not the first sign of cheap second raters to be playing for the club!! OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH HENDRY VENKYS COAR dangerous dave

9:47am Fri 8 Feb 13

lancs1985 says...

LOOKS LIKE THE DIRTY SCOUSER HAS BEEN DOING MORE BROWN NOSEING

GET HIM OUT THE CLUB HE IS USELESS

GO N GET 2 MIDFIELDERS AND GET LOWE BACK TO RB N LET HIM AND HENLEY BATTLE IT OUT
LOOKS LIKE THE DIRTY SCOUSER HAS BEEN DOING MORE BROWN NOSEING GET HIM OUT THE CLUB HE IS USELESS GO N GET 2 MIDFIELDERS AND GET LOWE BACK TO RB N LET HIM AND HENLEY BATTLE IT OUT lancs1985

9:49am Fri 8 Feb 13

RoverTheHill says...

Appleton has made big steps forward so far. He's kicked out the deadwood and the want-aways (those that aren't on Robbo style wages!). An is looking at bringing in loan and free-agents.... cheap deals for good players, he obviously sees Orr in his plans and so far his plan is working.

When Rovers is in decline,
There's an App for that

Bring on the dingles!
Appleton has made big steps forward so far. He's kicked out the deadwood and the want-aways (those that aren't on Robbo style wages!). An is looking at bringing in loan and free-agents.... cheap deals for good players, he obviously sees Orr in his plans and so far his plan is working. When Rovers is in decline, There's an App for that Bring on the dingles! RoverTheHill

9:55am Fri 8 Feb 13

rovers india says...

orr is the worst RB to have in the team. do u all agree? plz reply
orr is the worst RB to have in the team. do u all agree? plz reply rovers india

9:58am Fri 8 Feb 13

Harwoodstblue says...

Fair enough I say. Yes he's looked useless but who didn't amongst the total chaos that was Kean's team ? Trust Appleton's judgment, give him another chance and he might, and I say 'might', just come good. If not he'll have to go.
Fair enough I say. Yes he's looked useless but who didn't amongst the total chaos that was Kean's team ? Trust Appleton's judgment, give him another chance and he might, and I say 'might', just come good. If not he'll have to go. Harwoodstblue

10:03am Fri 8 Feb 13

dangerous dave says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
Fair enough I say. Yes he's looked useless but who didn't amongst the total chaos that was Kean's team ? Trust Appleton's judgment, give him another chance and he might, and I say 'might', just come good. If not he'll have to go.
Orr is back for one reason - the Venkys wont supply cash for investment in good sound players, only freebies/loans on cheap wages - in other words make do with what youv'e got - Orr may be a good 'joker' in the dressing room but has done nothing to prove he is a 'good player on the field'!!
OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: Fair enough I say. Yes he's looked useless but who didn't amongst the total chaos that was Kean's team ? Trust Appleton's judgment, give him another chance and he might, and I say 'might', just come good. If not he'll have to go.[/p][/quote]Orr is back for one reason - the Venkys wont supply cash for investment in good sound players, only freebies/loans on cheap wages - in other words make do with what youv'e got - Orr may be a good 'joker' in the dressing room but has done nothing to prove he is a 'good player on the field'!! OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM dangerous dave

10:10am Fri 8 Feb 13

Venk Off says...

Cannot disagree with comments about Orr's previous performances or support for K**n but - sharp intake of breath - we seem to have a Manager who seems to have a plan and the team understand and follow it .
For the first time since Big Sam left I am looking up the table not looking down it

Lets give Orr a chance - if he can show that he fits into Appletons team it can only be good for us
Cannot disagree with comments about Orr's previous performances or support for K**n but - sharp intake of breath - we seem to have a Manager who seems to have a plan and the team understand and follow it . For the first time since Big Sam left I am looking up the table not looking down it Lets give Orr a chance - if he can show that he fits into Appletons team it can only be good for us Venk Off

10:11am Fri 8 Feb 13

chez rover says...

I trust Appletons judgement but i thought Bradley was poor in the first half against City. And i really can't believe he made the N power championship team of the week! There must have been a better right back in the championship somewhere??? I was sat in the jack walker stand behind the dugout and must of counted 4 occasions where Bradley put his hand up to the bench to say sorry for a poor ball he just played. Westwood was screaming at him. Don't know what he was shouting but probably something along the lines of "we're in blue and white Bradley!!". Hope i'm wrong and Bradley improves under Appleton, only time will tell.
COYB!!!!!
I trust Appletons judgement but i thought Bradley was poor in the first half against City. And i really can't believe he made the N power championship team of the week! There must have been a better right back in the championship somewhere??? I was sat in the jack walker stand behind the dugout and must of counted 4 occasions where Bradley put his hand up to the bench to say sorry for a poor ball he just played. Westwood was screaming at him. Don't know what he was shouting but probably something along the lines of "we're in blue and white Bradley!!". Hope i'm wrong and Bradley improves under Appleton, only time will tell. COYB!!!!! chez rover

10:12am Fri 8 Feb 13

Harwoodstblue says...

dangerous dave wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
Fair enough I say. Yes he's looked useless but who didn't amongst the total chaos that was Kean's team ? Trust Appleton's judgment, give him another chance and he might, and I say 'might', just come good. If not he'll have to go.
Orr is back for one reason - the Venkys wont supply cash for investment in good sound players, only freebies/loans on cheap wages - in other words make do with what youv'e got - Orr may be a good 'joker' in the dressing room but has done nothing to prove he is a 'good player on the field'!!
OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM
Hi Dave, I've been one of Venkys biggest critics this last couple of years and have noted their reluctance to spend and to do things on the cheap. I just thought give Orr another chance and he might come good. Hope so.
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: Fair enough I say. Yes he's looked useless but who didn't amongst the total chaos that was Kean's team ? Trust Appleton's judgment, give him another chance and he might, and I say 'might', just come good. If not he'll have to go.[/p][/quote]Orr is back for one reason - the Venkys wont supply cash for investment in good sound players, only freebies/loans on cheap wages - in other words make do with what youv'e got - Orr may be a good 'joker' in the dressing room but has done nothing to prove he is a 'good player on the field'!! OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM[/p][/quote]Hi Dave, I've been one of Venkys biggest critics this last couple of years and have noted their reluctance to spend and to do things on the cheap. I just thought give Orr another chance and he might come good. Hope so. Harwoodstblue

10:13am Fri 8 Feb 13

crammed as a wasp says...

MOrr Orr Forr ROrrvers
MOrr Orr Forr ROrrvers crammed as a wasp

10:16am Fri 8 Feb 13

1952 rover says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
As infectious as a virus
How Sad You Are.
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: As infectious as a virus[/p][/quote]How Sad You Are. 1952 rover

10:17am Fri 8 Feb 13

1952 rover says...

lancs1985 wrote:
LOOKS LIKE THE DIRTY SCOUSER HAS BEEN DOING MORE BROWN NOSEING

GET HIM OUT THE CLUB HE IS USELESS

GO N GET 2 MIDFIELDERS AND GET LOWE BACK TO RB N LET HIM AND HENLEY BATTLE IT OUT
Give it a rest for God's sake.
[quote][p][bold]lancs1985[/bold] wrote: LOOKS LIKE THE DIRTY SCOUSER HAS BEEN DOING MORE BROWN NOSEING GET HIM OUT THE CLUB HE IS USELESS GO N GET 2 MIDFIELDERS AND GET LOWE BACK TO RB N LET HIM AND HENLEY BATTLE IT OUT[/p][/quote]Give it a rest for God's sake. 1952 rover

10:18am Fri 8 Feb 13

1952 rover says...

rovers india wrote:
orr is the worst RB to have in the team. do u all agree? plz reply
No that would be you
[quote][p][bold]rovers india[/bold] wrote: orr is the worst RB to have in the team. do u all agree? plz reply[/p][/quote]No that would be you 1952 rover

10:20am Fri 8 Feb 13

1952 rover says...

Halcyon wrote:
can the orr haters not just get over it, sad ba$tards
Well Said. If they don't like it go and watch the Dingles, as they must like them more with all their calling of the Rovers.
[quote][p][bold]Halcyon[/bold] wrote: can the orr haters not just get over it, sad ba$tards[/p][/quote]Well Said. If they don't like it go and watch the Dingles, as they must like them more with all their calling of the Rovers. 1952 rover

10:22am Fri 8 Feb 13

1952 rover says...

Why don't all you critics wait till the end of the season before you shout out your s@it.
Why don't all you critics wait till the end of the season before you shout out your s@it. 1952 rover

10:26am Fri 8 Feb 13

angryandy says...

As Harwoodst blue has already said "Who didn't look awful playing in the Kean era". Things have changed a lot since then and Appleton seems to have himself and the team a lot more organised and playing with a lot more confidence. Can't people stop looking to put the club down at every opportunity and try to back the team regardless of whoever is playing in it? I think his judgement is much more informed than all of ours put together. I'm sure Ewood will soon let him know if he's wrong!!!!!!!!
COYB the future's a lot brighter than it was 3 or 4 games ago...
As Harwoodst blue has already said "Who didn't look awful playing in the Kean era". Things have changed a lot since then and Appleton seems to have himself and the team a lot more organised and playing with a lot more confidence. Can't people stop looking to put the club down at every opportunity and try to back the team regardless of whoever is playing in it? I think his judgement is much more informed than all of ours put together. I'm sure Ewood will soon let him know if he's wrong!!!!!!!! COYB the future's a lot brighter than it was 3 or 4 games ago... angryandy

10:41am Fri 8 Feb 13

angryandy says...

1952 rover wrote:
Why don't all you critics wait till the end of the season before you shout out your s@it.
You're not the only one getting a little fed up of the negativity on these pages but you can surely understand why especially with the Venky's lack of common sense! Rovers fans have always been fickle. I remember Don Mackay's being of Sellars, Garner, Keeley, Faz etc being criticised in the 80's for not perfoming just after JW had taken control of the club. I didn't agree with that then but we are a different kettle of fish now.
[quote][p][bold]1952 rover[/bold] wrote: Why don't all you critics wait till the end of the season before you shout out your s@it.[/p][/quote]You're not the only one getting a little fed up of the negativity on these pages but you can surely understand why especially with the Venky's lack of common sense! Rovers fans have always been fickle. I remember Don Mackay's being of Sellars, Garner, Keeley, Faz etc being criticised in the 80's for not perfoming just after JW had taken control of the club. I didn't agree with that then but we are a different kettle of fish now. angryandy

10:42am Fri 8 Feb 13

A Darener says...

Come on, new manager could get the best out of him. Give him a chance. We haven't lost since he came back so deserves a stay of execution!
Come on, new manager could get the best out of him. Give him a chance. We haven't lost since he came back so deserves a stay of execution! A Darener

10:54am Fri 8 Feb 13

ChrisDeBerg says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
Fair enough I say. Yes he's looked useless but who didn't amongst the total chaos that was Kean's team ? Trust Appleton's judgment, give him another chance and he might, and I say 'might', just come good. If not he'll have to go.
Orr is back for one reason - the Venkys wont supply cash for investment in good sound players, only freebies/loans on cheap wages - in other words make do with what youv'e got - Orr may be a good 'joker' in the dressing room but has done nothing to prove he is a 'good player on the field'!!
OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM
Hi Dave, I've been one of Venkys biggest critics this last couple of years and have noted their reluctance to spend and to do things on the cheap. I just thought give Orr another chance and he might come good. Hope so.
Yeah Dave, again you sprouting your mouth off! Could you play right back? I bet not! Like people have said already, let him have a chance to prove himself in a more solid team with Appletons rules and pre-match talks etc. You never know, if he has got time to shine (as appleton obviously thinks he does), then give him that chance. If he makes too many mistakes then I'm quite sure Appleton will see that and make his OWN decision to ship him on his way!

Just stop being so negative all the time... And get yourself down to a rovers game so you can actually comment on rovers players and their performances!

DANGEROUS DAVE OUT

RTID
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: Fair enough I say. Yes he's looked useless but who didn't amongst the total chaos that was Kean's team ? Trust Appleton's judgment, give him another chance and he might, and I say 'might', just come good. If not he'll have to go.[/p][/quote]Orr is back for one reason - the Venkys wont supply cash for investment in good sound players, only freebies/loans on cheap wages - in other words make do with what youv'e got - Orr may be a good 'joker' in the dressing room but has done nothing to prove he is a 'good player on the field'!! OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM[/p][/quote]Hi Dave, I've been one of Venkys biggest critics this last couple of years and have noted their reluctance to spend and to do things on the cheap. I just thought give Orr another chance and he might come good. Hope so.[/p][/quote]Yeah Dave, again you sprouting your mouth off! Could you play right back? I bet not! Like people have said already, let him have a chance to prove himself in a more solid team with Appletons rules and pre-match talks etc. You never know, if he has got time to shine (as appleton obviously thinks he does), then give him that chance. If he makes too many mistakes then I'm quite sure Appleton will see that and make his OWN decision to ship him on his way! Just stop being so negative all the time... And get yourself down to a rovers game so you can actually comment on rovers players and their performances! DANGEROUS DAVE OUT RTID ChrisDeBerg

10:58am Fri 8 Feb 13

A Rover 45 years and over says...

If MA want's him in the team then thats fine with me because the overall changes he is making is good. I am more concerned about the slow pace in bringing players in to support MA. They signed King like a flash and with Appleton it's not been good so far. You get the feeling that it isn't good with what seems to be a negative Shebby lurking about in the background who hasn't come out and supported MA he is already tinkering in he background bringing trialist in to the club. Venky's have only brushed this problem under carpet rather than solving it. Shebby needs to support MA and then we can be a bit more comfortable with the whole situation.
If MA want's him in the team then thats fine with me because the overall changes he is making is good. I am more concerned about the slow pace in bringing players in to support MA. They signed King like a flash and with Appleton it's not been good so far. You get the feeling that it isn't good with what seems to be a negative Shebby lurking about in the background who hasn't come out and supported MA he is already tinkering in he background bringing trialist in to the club. Venky's have only brushed this problem under carpet rather than solving it. Shebby needs to support MA and then we can be a bit more comfortable with the whole situation. A Rover 45 years and over

11:02am Fri 8 Feb 13

Wez_SHEBBYOUT says...

hhaha next joke Orr is possibly the worst player i have seen at Ewood for quite some time.
hhaha next joke Orr is possibly the worst player i have seen at Ewood for quite some time. Wez_SHEBBYOUT

11:04am Fri 8 Feb 13

moh says...

lancs1985 wrote:
LOOKS LIKE THE DIRTY SCOUSER HAS BEEN DOING MORE BROWN NOSEING GET HIM OUT THE CLUB HE IS USELESS GO N GET 2 MIDFIELDERS AND GET LOWE BACK TO RB N LET HIM AND HENLEY BATTLE IT OUT
He was poor against Bristol City. The two Olsons were effective and stopped any crosses from left side. Bristol had a few good chances in the first half and all came from balls on right hand side. The right side was poor. Bristol nearly scored twice in first half and the balls came from rovers right side. Orr needs to concentrate more or rovers need to play Lowe as right back till Henley comes back.
[quote][p][bold]lancs1985[/bold] wrote: LOOKS LIKE THE DIRTY SCOUSER HAS BEEN DOING MORE BROWN NOSEING GET HIM OUT THE CLUB HE IS USELESS GO N GET 2 MIDFIELDERS AND GET LOWE BACK TO RB N LET HIM AND HENLEY BATTLE IT OUT[/p][/quote]He was poor against Bristol City. The two Olsons were effective and stopped any crosses from left side. Bristol had a few good chances in the first half and all came from balls on right hand side. The right side was poor. Bristol nearly scored twice in first half and the balls came from rovers right side. Orr needs to concentrate more or rovers need to play Lowe as right back till Henley comes back. moh

11:06am Fri 8 Feb 13

matt00 says...

For me I cannot forgive him after his post relegation comments after the Wigan game. A reminder for some:

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=7PO4f3ppO
z8

I'd find it hard to forgive a great player but as Orr is only average at his very best and I have no problem disliking him. That said once he pulls on the shirt he should get full support and if he fails its up the the manager to put final nail in his coffin.

sure henley when fit will keep orr on the bench so fingers crossed he is only a temporary measure
For me I cannot forgive him after his post relegation comments after the Wigan game. A reminder for some: http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=7PO4f3ppO z8 I'd find it hard to forgive a great player but as Orr is only average at his very best and I have no problem disliking him. That said once he pulls on the shirt he should get full support and if he fails its up the the manager to put final nail in his coffin. sure henley when fit will keep orr on the bench so fingers crossed he is only a temporary measure matt00

11:09am Fri 8 Feb 13

A Darener says...

Wez_SHEBBYOUT wrote:
hhaha next joke Orr is possibly the worst player i have seen at Ewood for quite some time.
hhaha next joke.....And you are possibly the worst supporter I haven't seen at Ewood!!
[quote][p][bold]Wez_SHEBBYOUT[/bold] wrote: hhaha next joke Orr is possibly the worst player i have seen at Ewood for quite some time.[/p][/quote]hhaha next joke.....And you are possibly the worst supporter I haven't seen at Ewood!! A Darener

11:12am Fri 8 Feb 13

dangerous dave says...

ChrisDeBerg wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote: Fair enough I say. Yes he's looked useless but who didn't amongst the total chaos that was Kean's team ? Trust Appleton's judgment, give him another chance and he might, and I say 'might', just come good. If not he'll have to go.
Orr is back for one reason - the Venkys wont supply cash for investment in good sound players, only freebies/loans on cheap wages - in other words make do with what youv'e got - Orr may be a good 'joker' in the dressing room but has done nothing to prove he is a 'good player on the field'!! OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM
Hi Dave, I've been one of Venkys biggest critics this last couple of years and have noted their reluctance to spend and to do things on the cheap. I just thought give Orr another chance and he might come good. Hope so.
Yeah Dave, again you sprouting your mouth off! Could you play right back? I bet not! Like people have said already, let him have a chance to prove himself in a more solid team with Appletons rules and pre-match talks etc. You never know, if he has got time to shine (as appleton obviously thinks he does), then give him that chance. If he makes too many mistakes then I'm quite sure Appleton will see that and make his OWN decision to ship him on his way! Just stop being so negative all the time... And get yourself down to a rovers game so you can actually comment on rovers players and their performances! DANGEROUS DAVE OUT RTID
Your obviously a pro and can play right back . I don't think so get real you plank. Out with the lot of them
[quote][p][bold]ChrisDeBerg[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: Fair enough I say. Yes he's looked useless but who didn't amongst the total chaos that was Kean's team ? Trust Appleton's judgment, give him another chance and he might, and I say 'might', just come good. If not he'll have to go.[/p][/quote]Orr is back for one reason - the Venkys wont supply cash for investment in good sound players, only freebies/loans on cheap wages - in other words make do with what youv'e got - Orr may be a good 'joker' in the dressing room but has done nothing to prove he is a 'good player on the field'!! OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM[/p][/quote]Hi Dave, I've been one of Venkys biggest critics this last couple of years and have noted their reluctance to spend and to do things on the cheap. I just thought give Orr another chance and he might come good. Hope so.[/p][/quote]Yeah Dave, again you sprouting your mouth off! Could you play right back? I bet not! Like people have said already, let him have a chance to prove himself in a more solid team with Appletons rules and pre-match talks etc. You never know, if he has got time to shine (as appleton obviously thinks he does), then give him that chance. If he makes too many mistakes then I'm quite sure Appleton will see that and make his OWN decision to ship him on his way! Just stop being so negative all the time... And get yourself down to a rovers game so you can actually comment on rovers players and their performances! DANGEROUS DAVE OUT RTID[/p][/quote]Your obviously a pro and can play right back . I don't think so get real you plank. Out with the lot of them dangerous dave

11:13am Fri 8 Feb 13

Tatts says...

Orr isn't that bad and certainly doesn't deserve villifying for sticking up for his manager, even if it was Steve Kean.
Orr isn't that bad and certainly doesn't deserve villifying for sticking up for his manager, even if it was Steve Kean. Tatts

11:18am Fri 8 Feb 13

To.guy says...

If Appleton had a bit of common sense, he would have let Orr get on with his job and allowed him to prove himself quietly. As it is, he just brings out the critics again by singling him out. Surely he knew the feeling. A bit stupid if you ask me. None of the players bar Rhodes has done enough to be highlighted so just let them get on with the job at hand.
If Appleton had a bit of common sense, he would have let Orr get on with his job and allowed him to prove himself quietly. As it is, he just brings out the critics again by singling him out. Surely he knew the feeling. A bit stupid if you ask me. None of the players bar Rhodes has done enough to be highlighted so just let them get on with the job at hand. To.guy

11:22am Fri 8 Feb 13

Lancs - pensioner says...

It's the manager who picks the team, he lives by the sword and dies by the sword, let him get on with it!
MA has done well so far even without the Venkys full backing.
It's the manager who picks the team, he lives by the sword and dies by the sword, let him get on with it! MA has done well so far even without the Venkys full backing. Lancs - pensioner

11:25am Fri 8 Feb 13

RTID says...

I mist be watching a different game to most of you. Bradley Orr was actually very good against Bristol City. What he did well was, running forward beyond half way, and rather than doing what the Olsson's do (run into a corner and lose it), he played it in to feet, either inside or up to the striker - I was actually very impressed with his passing, which he hit hard in to feet, rather than lofted in and around Rhodes.
I mist be watching a different game to most of you. Bradley Orr was actually very good against Bristol City. What he did well was, running forward beyond half way, and rather than doing what the Olsson's do (run into a corner and lose it), he played it in to feet, either inside or up to the striker - I was actually very impressed with his passing, which he hit hard in to feet, rather than lofted in and around Rhodes. RTID

11:26am Fri 8 Feb 13

French Rover says...

It will be nice to have Henley and Orr battling it out for the LB spot, its a while since we had that level of competition. But what about the young Chelsea lad Kane? I know he was only on a months loan so has he gone back to the Bridge now? Now he definiely looked a decent player and one to watch for the future...Allez les Bleus

PS - Let's plough through the tractor boys this weekend!
It will be nice to have Henley and Orr battling it out for the LB spot, its a while since we had that level of competition. But what about the young Chelsea lad Kane? I know he was only on a months loan so has he gone back to the Bridge now? Now he definiely looked a decent player and one to watch for the future...Allez les Bleus PS - Let's plough through the tractor boys this weekend! French Rover

11:41am Fri 8 Feb 13

lusorover says...

One has to laugh when posters on here criticise so harshly a player who featured in the Championship team-of-the-week.

It just goes to prove what we all suspected.

They know nowt!

It could just be that the 'moaners' are running short of things to moan about now that there is actually some good news coming out of Ewood.

Surely, they can't all be Dingles - can they?
One has to laugh when posters on here criticise so harshly a player who featured in the Championship team-of-the-week. It just goes to prove what we all suspected. They know nowt! It could just be that the 'moaners' are running short of things to moan about now that there is actually some good news coming out of Ewood. Surely, they can't all be Dingles - can they? lusorover

1:23pm Fri 8 Feb 13

madrover says...

ChrisDeBerg wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
Fair enough I say. Yes he's looked useless but who didn't amongst the total chaos that was Kean's team ? Trust Appleton's judgment, give him another chance and he might, and I say 'might', just come good. If not he'll have to go.
Orr is back for one reason - the Venkys wont supply cash for investment in good sound players, only freebies/loans on cheap wages - in other words make do with what youv'e got - Orr may be a good 'joker' in the dressing room but has done nothing to prove he is a 'good player on the field'!!
OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM
Hi Dave, I've been one of Venkys biggest critics this last couple of years and have noted their reluctance to spend and to do things on the cheap. I just thought give Orr another chance and he might come good. Hope so.
Yeah Dave, again you sprouting your mouth off! Could you play right back? I bet not! Like people have said already, let him have a chance to prove himself in a more solid team with Appletons rules and pre-match talks etc. You never know, if he has got time to shine (as appleton obviously thinks he does), then give him that chance. If he makes too many mistakes then I'm quite sure Appleton will see that and make his OWN decision to ship him on his way!

Just stop being so negative all the time... And get yourself down to a rovers game so you can actually comment on rovers players and their performances!

DANGEROUS DAVE OUT

RTID
here here
[quote][p][bold]ChrisDeBerg[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: Fair enough I say. Yes he's looked useless but who didn't amongst the total chaos that was Kean's team ? Trust Appleton's judgment, give him another chance and he might, and I say 'might', just come good. If not he'll have to go.[/p][/quote]Orr is back for one reason - the Venkys wont supply cash for investment in good sound players, only freebies/loans on cheap wages - in other words make do with what youv'e got - Orr may be a good 'joker' in the dressing room but has done nothing to prove he is a 'good player on the field'!! OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM[/p][/quote]Hi Dave, I've been one of Venkys biggest critics this last couple of years and have noted their reluctance to spend and to do things on the cheap. I just thought give Orr another chance and he might come good. Hope so.[/p][/quote]Yeah Dave, again you sprouting your mouth off! Could you play right back? I bet not! Like people have said already, let him have a chance to prove himself in a more solid team with Appletons rules and pre-match talks etc. You never know, if he has got time to shine (as appleton obviously thinks he does), then give him that chance. If he makes too many mistakes then I'm quite sure Appleton will see that and make his OWN decision to ship him on his way! Just stop being so negative all the time... And get yourself down to a rovers game so you can actually comment on rovers players and their performances! DANGEROUS DAVE OUT RTID[/p][/quote]here here madrover

1:28pm Fri 8 Feb 13

Wild Rover says...

lusorover wrote:
One has to laugh when posters on here criticise so harshly a player who featured in the Championship team-of-the-week.

It just goes to prove what we all suspected.

They know nowt!

It could just be that the 'moaners' are running short of things to moan about now that there is actually some good news coming out of Ewood.

Surely, they can't all be Dingles - can they?
Oh yes they can Luso, in my view anyway
Whatever they are Rovers fans they ain't
3 more points tomorrow will choke em though...
Onwards
[quote][p][bold]lusorover[/bold] wrote: One has to laugh when posters on here criticise so harshly a player who featured in the Championship team-of-the-week. It just goes to prove what we all suspected. They know nowt! It could just be that the 'moaners' are running short of things to moan about now that there is actually some good news coming out of Ewood. Surely, they can't all be Dingles - can they?[/p][/quote]Oh yes they can Luso, in my view anyway Whatever they are Rovers fans they ain't 3 more points tomorrow will choke em though... Onwards Wild Rover

1:46pm Fri 8 Feb 13

ChrisDeBerg says...

dangerous dave wrote:
ChrisDeBerg wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote: Fair enough I say. Yes he's looked useless but who didn't amongst the total chaos that was Kean's team ? Trust Appleton's judgment, give him another chance and he might, and I say 'might', just come good. If not he'll have to go.
Orr is back for one reason - the Venkys wont supply cash for investment in good sound players, only freebies/loans on cheap wages - in other words make do with what youv'e got - Orr may be a good 'joker' in the dressing room but has done nothing to prove he is a 'good player on the field'!! OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM
Hi Dave, I've been one of Venkys biggest critics this last couple of years and have noted their reluctance to spend and to do things on the cheap. I just thought give Orr another chance and he might come good. Hope so.
Yeah Dave, again you sprouting your mouth off! Could you play right back? I bet not! Like people have said already, let him have a chance to prove himself in a more solid team with Appletons rules and pre-match talks etc. You never know, if he has got time to shine (as appleton obviously thinks he does), then give him that chance. If he makes too many mistakes then I'm quite sure Appleton will see that and make his OWN decision to ship him on his way! Just stop being so negative all the time... And get yourself down to a rovers game so you can actually comment on rovers players and their performances! DANGEROUS DAVE OUT RTID
Your obviously a pro and can play right back . I don't think so get real you plank. Out with the lot of them
I'm not a pro footballer sorry. Although I played ice hockey for Blackburn as a left winger up till last season and was top goal scorer. So A) I know what being part of a team is all about and how one team can bring out a better side than another... And B) I know what having a good manager can change massively in a team.

Problem is dave, you site there ranting all your cr@p day in day out about something that you seemingly know very little about and it makes you sound a right t1t... Seriously, I'm saying this for your own good!

RTID
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChrisDeBerg[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: Fair enough I say. Yes he's looked useless but who didn't amongst the total chaos that was Kean's team ? Trust Appleton's judgment, give him another chance and he might, and I say 'might', just come good. If not he'll have to go.[/p][/quote]Orr is back for one reason - the Venkys wont supply cash for investment in good sound players, only freebies/loans on cheap wages - in other words make do with what youv'e got - Orr may be a good 'joker' in the dressing room but has done nothing to prove he is a 'good player on the field'!! OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM[/p][/quote]Hi Dave, I've been one of Venkys biggest critics this last couple of years and have noted their reluctance to spend and to do things on the cheap. I just thought give Orr another chance and he might come good. Hope so.[/p][/quote]Yeah Dave, again you sprouting your mouth off! Could you play right back? I bet not! Like people have said already, let him have a chance to prove himself in a more solid team with Appletons rules and pre-match talks etc. You never know, if he has got time to shine (as appleton obviously thinks he does), then give him that chance. If he makes too many mistakes then I'm quite sure Appleton will see that and make his OWN decision to ship him on his way! Just stop being so negative all the time... And get yourself down to a rovers game so you can actually comment on rovers players and their performances! DANGEROUS DAVE OUT RTID[/p][/quote]Your obviously a pro and can play right back . I don't think so get real you plank. Out with the lot of them[/p][/quote]I'm not a pro footballer sorry. Although I played ice hockey for Blackburn as a left winger up till last season and was top goal scorer. So A) I know what being part of a team is all about and how one team can bring out a better side than another... And B) I know what having a good manager can change massively in a team. Problem is dave, you site there ranting all your cr@p day in day out about something that you seemingly know very little about and it makes you sound a right t1t... Seriously, I'm saying this for your own good! RTID ChrisDeBerg

2:01pm Fri 8 Feb 13

srvp28 says...

There are far too many people on here who still harbour a grudge against Orr because of what he said in the immediate aftermath of the team getting relegated. Of course what he said wasn't going to endear him to the fans but what else was he supposed to say when asked a leading question about his boss?

Anybody saying that he's a poor player at this level needs to get themselves down to Specsavers. Either that or just stop judging players on last season's performances. Orr has been a solid player in the Championship all season, for us and Ipswich. If you don't agree perhaps you should check both teams stats and compare results when Orr has and hasn't been in the team.

I know everybody is entitled to their opinion but it seems to be the same people slating Orr who are still slating Dann, despite both playing well this season. It's glaringly obvious that people are still judging both based on last season's performances.
There are far too many people on here who still harbour a grudge against Orr because of what he said in the immediate aftermath of the team getting relegated. Of course what he said wasn't going to endear him to the fans but what else was he supposed to say when asked a leading question about his boss? Anybody saying that he's a poor player at this level needs to get themselves down to Specsavers. Either that or just stop judging players on last season's performances. Orr has been a solid player in the Championship all season, for us and Ipswich. If you don't agree perhaps you should check both teams stats and compare results when Orr has and hasn't been in the team. I know everybody is entitled to their opinion but it seems to be the same people slating Orr who are still slating Dann, despite both playing well this season. It's glaringly obvious that people are still judging both based on last season's performances. srvp28

2:07pm Fri 8 Feb 13

Bolton Rover says...

Give it a rest and let the manager make the decisions, that's what he's paid to do. If he thinks Orr can add value then so be it.

Orr played ok in the last game, not outstanding but ok given its his first game back.
Give it a rest and let the manager make the decisions, that's what he's paid to do. If he thinks Orr can add value then so be it. Orr played ok in the last game, not outstanding but ok given its his first game back. Bolton Rover

2:33pm Fri 8 Feb 13

MxMave says...

What game was appleton watching on Saturday then? Orr was culpable for thier attack where they hit the post, which was 1/3 of the chances they had that day. He wasn't terrible but he's not the quality we require @ ewood.
What game was appleton watching on Saturday then? Orr was culpable for thier attack where they hit the post, which was 1/3 of the chances they had that day. He wasn't terrible but he's not the quality we require @ ewood. MxMave

2:34pm Fri 8 Feb 13

noddy57 says...

Is there two bradley orrs ?,,,,,,the one ive seen is not a natural footballer,,lm 55 and theres more talent in my left big toe,,come on appleton who you trying to kid,,? you insult my intelligence,
Is there two bradley orrs ?,,,,,,the one ive seen is not a natural footballer,,lm 55 and theres more talent in my left big toe,,come on appleton who you trying to kid,,? you insult my intelligence, noddy57

3:04pm Fri 8 Feb 13

Hovis1945 says...

RTID wrote:
I mist be watching a different game to most of you. Bradley Orr was actually very good against Bristol City. What he did well was, running forward beyond half way, and rather than doing what the Olsson's do (run into a corner and lose it), he played it in to feet, either inside or up to the striker - I was actually very impressed with his passing, which he hit hard in to feet, rather than lofted in and around Rhodes.
For what it is worth I agree with all that. I did not rate him that badly when he was playing in Kean's teams which had no tactical set up, no game plan and basically no idea. Really hope the fresh start continues for him, the team, the supporters and the club.
[quote][p][bold]RTID[/bold] wrote: I mist be watching a different game to most of you. Bradley Orr was actually very good against Bristol City. What he did well was, running forward beyond half way, and rather than doing what the Olsson's do (run into a corner and lose it), he played it in to feet, either inside or up to the striker - I was actually very impressed with his passing, which he hit hard in to feet, rather than lofted in and around Rhodes.[/p][/quote]For what it is worth I agree with all that. I did not rate him that badly when he was playing in Kean's teams which had no tactical set up, no game plan and basically no idea. Really hope the fresh start continues for him, the team, the supporters and the club. Hovis1945

3:37pm Fri 8 Feb 13

fishcake 75 says...

Dj campbell a good start to the day,williamson i have never heard of but he must be better than lowe in midfield anybody any news on thomas?
Dj campbell a good start to the day,williamson i have never heard of but he must be better than lowe in midfield [ it would not take much] anybody any news on thomas? fishcake 75

3:53pm Fri 8 Feb 13

Is Eckersley playing? says...

Dj? Here for the money. Williamson? Never were and never would be. Next.
Dj? Here for the money. Williamson? Never were and never would be. Next. Is Eckersley playing?

4:05pm Fri 8 Feb 13

Whydidtheybanme? says...

The biggest role I tip Orr for is a Sausage Roll, certainly not a RB role.
The biggest role I tip Orr for is a Sausage Roll, certainly not a RB role. Whydidtheybanme?

4:10pm Fri 8 Feb 13

srvp28 says...

MxMave wrote:
What game was appleton watching on Saturday then? Orr was culpable for thier attack where they hit the post, which was 1/3 of the chances they had that day. He wasn't terrible but he's not the quality we require @ ewood.
Are you for real? Firstly, how can Orr alone be culpable for their attack where they hit the post. The ball managed to get passed around until the shot was taken from the other side of the pitch. Secondly, even if it had been his fault that they got a chance it doesn't matter because they didn't score.

No defender, not even the likes of Vidic or Piqué, can go a couple of games without getting caught out by the opposition, that's part of the game. If every defender was perfect at their job then every game would finish 0-0.

The problem with some fans is they only seem to be happy when they've got something or someone to moan about.
[quote][p][bold]MxMave[/bold] wrote: What game was appleton watching on Saturday then? Orr was culpable for thier attack where they hit the post, which was 1/3 of the chances they had that day. He wasn't terrible but he's not the quality we require @ ewood.[/p][/quote]Are you for real? Firstly, how can Orr alone be culpable for their attack where they hit the post. The ball managed to get passed around until the shot was taken from the other side of the pitch. Secondly, even if it had been his fault that they got a chance it doesn't matter because they didn't score. No defender, not even the likes of Vidic or Piqué, can go a couple of games without getting caught out by the opposition, that's part of the game. If every defender was perfect at their job then every game would finish 0-0. The problem with some fans is they only seem to be happy when they've got something or someone to moan about. srvp28

4:50pm Fri 8 Feb 13

greenscreener says...

srvp28 wrote:
There are far too many people on here who still harbour a grudge against Orr because of what he said in the immediate aftermath of the team getting relegated. Of course what he said wasn't going to endear him to the fans but what else was he supposed to say when asked a leading question about his boss?

Anybody saying that he's a poor player at this level needs to get themselves down to Specsavers. Either that or just stop judging players on last season's performances. Orr has been a solid player in the Championship all season, for us and Ipswich. If you don't agree perhaps you should check both teams stats and compare results when Orr has and hasn't been in the team.

I know everybody is entitled to their opinion but it seems to be the same people slating Orr who are still slating Dann, despite both playing well this season. It's glaringly obvious that people are still judging both based on last season's performances.
My opinion of Orr as a footballer is that he does not read the game very well. This would be less of an issue if he had the pace to recover from frequently being out of position in open play. Those who rate him often quote his desire to overlap, which can be eye catching, but this does not excuse his poor positional awareness when defending. He makes poor choices regarding when to get tight and when to back off and provides very little cover for the centre halves.

I watched him on TV earlier this season, playing for Ipswich in this league and he was directly at fault for at least 3 of the goals they conceded.

On what I've seen on the pitch I rate Hanley and Lowe as quicker and more effective defenders.
[quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: There are far too many people on here who still harbour a grudge against Orr because of what he said in the immediate aftermath of the team getting relegated. Of course what he said wasn't going to endear him to the fans but what else was he supposed to say when asked a leading question about his boss? Anybody saying that he's a poor player at this level needs to get themselves down to Specsavers. Either that or just stop judging players on last season's performances. Orr has been a solid player in the Championship all season, for us and Ipswich. If you don't agree perhaps you should check both teams stats and compare results when Orr has and hasn't been in the team. I know everybody is entitled to their opinion but it seems to be the same people slating Orr who are still slating Dann, despite both playing well this season. It's glaringly obvious that people are still judging both based on last season's performances.[/p][/quote]My opinion of Orr as a footballer is that he does not read the game very well. This would be less of an issue if he had the pace to recover from frequently being out of position in open play. Those who rate him often quote his desire to overlap, which can be eye catching, but this does not excuse his poor positional awareness when defending. He makes poor choices regarding when to get tight and when to back off and provides very little cover for the centre halves. I watched him on TV earlier this season, playing for Ipswich in this league and he was directly at fault for at least 3 of the goals they conceded. On what I've seen on the pitch I rate Hanley and Lowe as quicker and more effective defenders. greenscreener

4:52pm Fri 8 Feb 13

greenscreener says...

greenscreener wrote:
srvp28 wrote:
There are far too many people on here who still harbour a grudge against Orr because of what he said in the immediate aftermath of the team getting relegated. Of course what he said wasn't going to endear him to the fans but what else was he supposed to say when asked a leading question about his boss?

Anybody saying that he's a poor player at this level needs to get themselves down to Specsavers. Either that or just stop judging players on last season's performances. Orr has been a solid player in the Championship all season, for us and Ipswich. If you don't agree perhaps you should check both teams stats and compare results when Orr has and hasn't been in the team.

I know everybody is entitled to their opinion but it seems to be the same people slating Orr who are still slating Dann, despite both playing well this season. It's glaringly obvious that people are still judging both based on last season's performances.
My opinion of Orr as a footballer is that he does not read the game very well. This would be less of an issue if he had the pace to recover from frequently being out of position in open play. Those who rate him often quote his desire to overlap, which can be eye catching, but this does not excuse his poor positional awareness when defending. He makes poor choices regarding when to get tight and when to back off and provides very little cover for the centre halves.

I watched him on TV earlier this season, playing for Ipswich in this league and he was directly at fault for at least 3 of the goals they conceded.

On what I've seen on the pitch I rate Hanley and Lowe as quicker and more effective defenders.
I do of course mean Henley, we are talking about right backs.
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: There are far too many people on here who still harbour a grudge against Orr because of what he said in the immediate aftermath of the team getting relegated. Of course what he said wasn't going to endear him to the fans but what else was he supposed to say when asked a leading question about his boss? Anybody saying that he's a poor player at this level needs to get themselves down to Specsavers. Either that or just stop judging players on last season's performances. Orr has been a solid player in the Championship all season, for us and Ipswich. If you don't agree perhaps you should check both teams stats and compare results when Orr has and hasn't been in the team. I know everybody is entitled to their opinion but it seems to be the same people slating Orr who are still slating Dann, despite both playing well this season. It's glaringly obvious that people are still judging both based on last season's performances.[/p][/quote]My opinion of Orr as a footballer is that he does not read the game very well. This would be less of an issue if he had the pace to recover from frequently being out of position in open play. Those who rate him often quote his desire to overlap, which can be eye catching, but this does not excuse his poor positional awareness when defending. He makes poor choices regarding when to get tight and when to back off and provides very little cover for the centre halves. I watched him on TV earlier this season, playing for Ipswich in this league and he was directly at fault for at least 3 of the goals they conceded. On what I've seen on the pitch I rate Hanley and Lowe as quicker and more effective defenders.[/p][/quote]I do of course mean Henley, we are talking about right backs. greenscreener

5:10pm Fri 8 Feb 13

BRFC75 says...

ChrisDeBerg wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
ChrisDeBerg wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote: Fair enough I say. Yes he's looked useless but who didn't amongst the total chaos that was Kean's team ? Trust Appleton's judgment, give him another chance and he might, and I say 'might', just come good. If not he'll have to go.
Orr is back for one reason - the Venkys wont supply cash for investment in good sound players, only freebies/loans on cheap wages - in other words make do with what youv'e got - Orr may be a good 'joker' in the dressing room but has done nothing to prove he is a 'good player on the field'!! OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM
Hi Dave, I've been one of Venkys biggest critics this last couple of years and have noted their reluctance to spend and to do things on the cheap. I just thought give Orr another chance and he might come good. Hope so.
Yeah Dave, again you sprouting your mouth off! Could you play right back? I bet not! Like people have said already, let him have a chance to prove himself in a more solid team with Appletons rules and pre-match talks etc. You never know, if he has got time to shine (as appleton obviously thinks he does), then give him that chance. If he makes too many mistakes then I'm quite sure Appleton will see that and make his OWN decision to ship him on his way! Just stop being so negative all the time... And get yourself down to a rovers game so you can actually comment on rovers players and their performances! DANGEROUS DAVE OUT RTID
Your obviously a pro and can play right back . I don't think so get real you plank. Out with the lot of them
I'm not a pro footballer sorry. Although I played ice hockey for Blackburn as a left winger up till last season and was top goal scorer. So A) I know what being part of a team is all about and how one team can bring out a better side than another... And B) I know what having a good manager can change massively in a team.

Problem is dave, you site there ranting all your cr@p day in day out about something that you seemingly know very little about and it makes you sound a right t1t... Seriously, I'm saying this for your own good!

RTID
Ice Hockey = Blackburn left winger /top goalscorer , zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Leave DAVE ALONE you nincompoop.
[quote][p][bold]ChrisDeBerg[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChrisDeBerg[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: Fair enough I say. Yes he's looked useless but who didn't amongst the total chaos that was Kean's team ? Trust Appleton's judgment, give him another chance and he might, and I say 'might', just come good. If not he'll have to go.[/p][/quote]Orr is back for one reason - the Venkys wont supply cash for investment in good sound players, only freebies/loans on cheap wages - in other words make do with what youv'e got - Orr may be a good 'joker' in the dressing room but has done nothing to prove he is a 'good player on the field'!! OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM[/p][/quote]Hi Dave, I've been one of Venkys biggest critics this last couple of years and have noted their reluctance to spend and to do things on the cheap. I just thought give Orr another chance and he might come good. Hope so.[/p][/quote]Yeah Dave, again you sprouting your mouth off! Could you play right back? I bet not! Like people have said already, let him have a chance to prove himself in a more solid team with Appletons rules and pre-match talks etc. You never know, if he has got time to shine (as appleton obviously thinks he does), then give him that chance. If he makes too many mistakes then I'm quite sure Appleton will see that and make his OWN decision to ship him on his way! Just stop being so negative all the time... And get yourself down to a rovers game so you can actually comment on rovers players and their performances! DANGEROUS DAVE OUT RTID[/p][/quote]Your obviously a pro and can play right back . I don't think so get real you plank. Out with the lot of them[/p][/quote]I'm not a pro footballer sorry. Although I played ice hockey for Blackburn as a left winger up till last season and was top goal scorer. So A) I know what being part of a team is all about and how one team can bring out a better side than another... And B) I know what having a good manager can change massively in a team. Problem is dave, you site there ranting all your cr@p day in day out about something that you seemingly know very little about and it makes you sound a right t1t... Seriously, I'm saying this for your own good! RTID[/p][/quote]Ice Hockey = Blackburn left winger /top goalscorer , zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Leave DAVE ALONE you nincompoop. BRFC75

5:39pm Fri 8 Feb 13

trueblueaccy says...

1952 rover wrote:
Halcyon wrote:
can the orr haters not just get over it, sad ba$tards
Well Said. If they don't like it go and watch the Dingles, as they must like them more with all their calling of the Rovers.
It's about knowing a good player or a liability you clown!! If you rate Orr as a good player it should be you who should **** off down bonleh u thick ****. He's got no positional sense/can't tackle/**** in the air and does nothin but blames everybody else when he does something wrong. In over 40 yrs he must rank as 1 of the worst full backs I've ever seen in a rovers shirt. So take of them blue and white specs cos we will win nothing with him @ full back. Lowe or Henley 4me!!
[quote][p][bold]1952 rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Halcyon[/bold] wrote: can the orr haters not just get over it, sad ba$tards[/p][/quote]Well Said. If they don't like it go and watch the Dingles, as they must like them more with all their calling of the Rovers.[/p][/quote]It's about knowing a good player or a liability you clown!! If you rate Orr as a good player it should be you who should **** off down bonleh u thick ****. He's got no positional sense/can't tackle/**** in the air and does nothin but blames everybody else when he does something wrong. In over 40 yrs he must rank as 1 of the worst full backs I've ever seen in a rovers shirt. So take of them blue and white specs cos we will win nothing with him @ full back. Lowe or Henley 4me!! trueblueaccy

5:51pm Fri 8 Feb 13

ChrisDeBerg says...

BRFC75 wrote:
ChrisDeBerg wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
ChrisDeBerg wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote: Fair enough I say. Yes he's looked useless but who didn't amongst the total chaos that was Kean's team ? Trust Appleton's judgment, give him another chance and he might, and I say 'might', just come good. If not he'll have to go.
Orr is back for one reason - the Venkys wont supply cash for investment in good sound players, only freebies/loans on cheap wages - in other words make do with what youv'e got - Orr may be a good 'joker' in the dressing room but has done nothing to prove he is a 'good player on the field'!! OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM
Hi Dave, I've been one of Venkys biggest critics this last couple of years and have noted their reluctance to spend and to do things on the cheap. I just thought give Orr another chance and he might come good. Hope so.
Yeah Dave, again you sprouting your mouth off! Could you play right back? I bet not! Like people have said already, let him have a chance to prove himself in a more solid team with Appletons rules and pre-match talks etc. You never know, if he has got time to shine (as appleton obviously thinks he does), then give him that chance. If he makes too many mistakes then I'm quite sure Appleton will see that and make his OWN decision to ship him on his way! Just stop being so negative all the time... And get yourself down to a rovers game so you can actually comment on rovers players and their performances! DANGEROUS DAVE OUT RTID
Your obviously a pro and can play right back . I don't think so get real you plank. Out with the lot of them
I'm not a pro footballer sorry. Although I played ice hockey for Blackburn as a left winger up till last season and was top goal scorer. So A) I know what being part of a team is all about and how one team can bring out a better side than another... And B) I know what having a good manager can change massively in a team.

Problem is dave, you site there ranting all your cr@p day in day out about something that you seemingly know very little about and it makes you sound a right t1t... Seriously, I'm saying this for your own good!

RTID
Ice Hockey = Blackburn left winger /top goalscorer , zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Leave DAVE ALONE you nincompoop.
Well you can go crawl back in your hole too! He comes on here constantly moaning and griping and annoying people. He never goes to games and thinks he can comment on players abilities (or staff at the club for that matter)?! Looks like you have an admirer Dave!

RTID
[quote][p][bold]BRFC75[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChrisDeBerg[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChrisDeBerg[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: Fair enough I say. Yes he's looked useless but who didn't amongst the total chaos that was Kean's team ? Trust Appleton's judgment, give him another chance and he might, and I say 'might', just come good. If not he'll have to go.[/p][/quote]Orr is back for one reason - the Venkys wont supply cash for investment in good sound players, only freebies/loans on cheap wages - in other words make do with what youv'e got - Orr may be a good 'joker' in the dressing room but has done nothing to prove he is a 'good player on the field'!! OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM[/p][/quote]Hi Dave, I've been one of Venkys biggest critics this last couple of years and have noted their reluctance to spend and to do things on the cheap. I just thought give Orr another chance and he might come good. Hope so.[/p][/quote]Yeah Dave, again you sprouting your mouth off! Could you play right back? I bet not! Like people have said already, let him have a chance to prove himself in a more solid team with Appletons rules and pre-match talks etc. You never know, if he has got time to shine (as appleton obviously thinks he does), then give him that chance. If he makes too many mistakes then I'm quite sure Appleton will see that and make his OWN decision to ship him on his way! Just stop being so negative all the time... And get yourself down to a rovers game so you can actually comment on rovers players and their performances! DANGEROUS DAVE OUT RTID[/p][/quote]Your obviously a pro and can play right back . I don't think so get real you plank. Out with the lot of them[/p][/quote]I'm not a pro footballer sorry. Although I played ice hockey for Blackburn as a left winger up till last season and was top goal scorer. So A) I know what being part of a team is all about and how one team can bring out a better side than another... And B) I know what having a good manager can change massively in a team. Problem is dave, you site there ranting all your cr@p day in day out about something that you seemingly know very little about and it makes you sound a right t1t... Seriously, I'm saying this for your own good! RTID[/p][/quote]Ice Hockey = Blackburn left winger /top goalscorer , zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Leave DAVE ALONE you nincompoop.[/p][/quote]Well you can go crawl back in your hole too! He comes on here constantly moaning and griping and annoying people. He never goes to games and thinks he can comment on players abilities (or staff at the club for that matter)?! Looks like you have an admirer Dave! RTID ChrisDeBerg

6:17pm Fri 8 Feb 13

intothevalley says...

ChrisDeBerg wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
Fair enough I say. Yes he's looked useless but who didn't amongst the total chaos that was Kean's team ? Trust Appleton's judgment, give him another chance and he might, and I say 'might', just come good. If not he'll have to go.
Orr is back for one reason - the Venkys wont supply cash for investment in good sound players, only freebies/loans on cheap wages - in other words make do with what youv'e got - Orr may be a good 'joker' in the dressing room but has done nothing to prove he is a 'good player on the field'!!
OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM
Hi Dave, I've been one of Venkys biggest critics this last couple of years and have noted their reluctance to spend and to do things on the cheap. I just thought give Orr another chance and he might come good. Hope so.
Yeah Dave, again you sprouting your mouth off! Could you play right back? I bet not! Like people have said already, let him have a chance to prove himself in a more solid team with Appletons rules and pre-match talks etc. You never know, if he has got time to shine (as appleton obviously thinks he does), then give him that chance. If he makes too many mistakes then I'm quite sure Appleton will see that and make his OWN decision to ship him on his way!

Just stop being so negative all the time... And get yourself down to a rovers game so you can actually comment on rovers players and their performances!

DANGEROUS DAVE OUT

RTID
Wouldn't call Rhodes cheap!!!
[quote][p][bold]ChrisDeBerg[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: Fair enough I say. Yes he's looked useless but who didn't amongst the total chaos that was Kean's team ? Trust Appleton's judgment, give him another chance and he might, and I say 'might', just come good. If not he'll have to go.[/p][/quote]Orr is back for one reason - the Venkys wont supply cash for investment in good sound players, only freebies/loans on cheap wages - in other words make do with what youv'e got - Orr may be a good 'joker' in the dressing room but has done nothing to prove he is a 'good player on the field'!! OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM[/p][/quote]Hi Dave, I've been one of Venkys biggest critics this last couple of years and have noted their reluctance to spend and to do things on the cheap. I just thought give Orr another chance and he might come good. Hope so.[/p][/quote]Yeah Dave, again you sprouting your mouth off! Could you play right back? I bet not! Like people have said already, let him have a chance to prove himself in a more solid team with Appletons rules and pre-match talks etc. You never know, if he has got time to shine (as appleton obviously thinks he does), then give him that chance. If he makes too many mistakes then I'm quite sure Appleton will see that and make his OWN decision to ship him on his way! Just stop being so negative all the time... And get yourself down to a rovers game so you can actually comment on rovers players and their performances! DANGEROUS DAVE OUT RTID[/p][/quote]Wouldn't call Rhodes cheap!!! intothevalley

6:32pm Fri 8 Feb 13

MattNewcastle says...

Appleton deal in Facts:

Bradley Orr is not the answer...

1 - He was and is limited in his ability.

2 - Not once did he or does he offer good service from the flank.

3 - His lack of pace means its easy for opposition to defend and attack our right flank.

4 - He does not have the pace to get beyond the right winger to get to the bye line in order to then pull the ball back for Rhodes / supporting box to box midfield players etc.

At least Kane Lowe and Olsson are all capable of doing this thus posing far more of a threat.
Appleton deal in Facts: Bradley Orr is not the answer... 1 - He was and is limited in his ability. 2 - Not once did he or does he offer good service from the flank. 3 - His lack of pace means its easy for opposition to defend and attack our right flank. 4 - He does not have the pace to get beyond the right winger to get to the bye line in order to then pull the ball back for Rhodes / supporting box to box midfield players etc. At least Kane Lowe and Olsson are all capable of doing this thus posing far more of a threat. MattNewcastle

6:36pm Fri 8 Feb 13

MattNewcastle says...

Appletons lack of Management experience is telling.

West Brom and Portsmouth the limits of his ambition?

Yes I know you will quote Campbell.

Just shows the limit of his knowledge to limit his search for improvements to two clubs.
Appletons lack of Management experience is telling. West Brom and Portsmouth the limits of his ambition? Yes I know you will quote Campbell. Just shows the limit of his knowledge to limit his search for improvements to two clubs. MattNewcastle

6:39pm Fri 8 Feb 13

MattNewcastle says...

srvp28 wrote:
There are far too many people on here who still harbour a grudge against Orr because of what he said in the immediate aftermath of the team getting relegated. Of course what he said wasn't going to endear him to the fans but what else was he supposed to say when asked a leading question about his boss?

Anybody saying that he's a poor player at this level needs to get themselves down to Specsavers. Either that or just stop judging players on last season's performances. Orr has been a solid player in the Championship all season, for us and Ipswich. If you don't agree perhaps you should check both teams stats and compare results when Orr has and hasn't been in the team.

I know everybody is entitled to their opinion but it seems to be the same people slating Orr who are still slating Dann, despite both playing well this season. It's glaringly obvious that people are still judging both based on last season's performances.
Hi SRVP

The facts are that he is an average player at best compared to what we have had even back as far as Hird Bailey etc

No Pace

Offers what any AVERAGE right back would, is that good enough for us with our supposed ambitions.
[quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: There are far too many people on here who still harbour a grudge against Orr because of what he said in the immediate aftermath of the team getting relegated. Of course what he said wasn't going to endear him to the fans but what else was he supposed to say when asked a leading question about his boss? Anybody saying that he's a poor player at this level needs to get themselves down to Specsavers. Either that or just stop judging players on last season's performances. Orr has been a solid player in the Championship all season, for us and Ipswich. If you don't agree perhaps you should check both teams stats and compare results when Orr has and hasn't been in the team. I know everybody is entitled to their opinion but it seems to be the same people slating Orr who are still slating Dann, despite both playing well this season. It's glaringly obvious that people are still judging both based on last season's performances.[/p][/quote]Hi SRVP The facts are that he is an average player at best compared to what we have had even back as far as Hird Bailey etc No Pace Offers what any AVERAGE right back would, is that good enough for us with our supposed ambitions. MattNewcastle

6:51pm Fri 8 Feb 13

srvp28 says...

greenscreener wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
srvp28 wrote: There are far too many people on here who still harbour a grudge against Orr because of what he said in the immediate aftermath of the team getting relegated. Of course what he said wasn't going to endear him to the fans but what else was he supposed to say when asked a leading question about his boss? Anybody saying that he's a poor player at this level needs to get themselves down to Specsavers. Either that or just stop judging players on last season's performances. Orr has been a solid player in the Championship all season, for us and Ipswich. If you don't agree perhaps you should check both teams stats and compare results when Orr has and hasn't been in the team. I know everybody is entitled to their opinion but it seems to be the same people slating Orr who are still slating Dann, despite both playing well this season. It's glaringly obvious that people are still judging both based on last season's performances.
My opinion of Orr as a footballer is that he does not read the game very well. This would be less of an issue if he had the pace to recover from frequently being out of position in open play. Those who rate him often quote his desire to overlap, which can be eye catching, but this does not excuse his poor positional awareness when defending. He makes poor choices regarding when to get tight and when to back off and provides very little cover for the centre halves. I watched him on TV earlier this season, playing for Ipswich in this league and he was directly at fault for at least 3 of the goals they conceded. On what I've seen on the pitch I rate Hanley and Lowe as quicker and more effective defenders.
I do of course mean Henley, we are talking about right backs.
What game was that then? Please don't say the drubbing Ipswich received at the hands of Leicester in Orr's first game, I've already had to point out to somebody else before that it simply wasn't the case.
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: There are far too many people on here who still harbour a grudge against Orr because of what he said in the immediate aftermath of the team getting relegated. Of course what he said wasn't going to endear him to the fans but what else was he supposed to say when asked a leading question about his boss? Anybody saying that he's a poor player at this level needs to get themselves down to Specsavers. Either that or just stop judging players on last season's performances. Orr has been a solid player in the Championship all season, for us and Ipswich. If you don't agree perhaps you should check both teams stats and compare results when Orr has and hasn't been in the team. I know everybody is entitled to their opinion but it seems to be the same people slating Orr who are still slating Dann, despite both playing well this season. It's glaringly obvious that people are still judging both based on last season's performances.[/p][/quote]My opinion of Orr as a footballer is that he does not read the game very well. This would be less of an issue if he had the pace to recover from frequently being out of position in open play. Those who rate him often quote his desire to overlap, which can be eye catching, but this does not excuse his poor positional awareness when defending. He makes poor choices regarding when to get tight and when to back off and provides very little cover for the centre halves. I watched him on TV earlier this season, playing for Ipswich in this league and he was directly at fault for at least 3 of the goals they conceded. On what I've seen on the pitch I rate Hanley and Lowe as quicker and more effective defenders.[/p][/quote]I do of course mean Henley, we are talking about right backs.[/p][/quote]What game was that then? Please don't say the drubbing Ipswich received at the hands of Leicester in Orr's first game, I've already had to point out to somebody else before that it simply wasn't the case. srvp28

6:58pm Fri 8 Feb 13

srvp28 says...

MattNewcastle wrote:
srvp28 wrote: There are far too many people on here who still harbour a grudge against Orr because of what he said in the immediate aftermath of the team getting relegated. Of course what he said wasn't going to endear him to the fans but what else was he supposed to say when asked a leading question about his boss? Anybody saying that he's a poor player at this level needs to get themselves down to Specsavers. Either that or just stop judging players on last season's performances. Orr has been a solid player in the Championship all season, for us and Ipswich. If you don't agree perhaps you should check both teams stats and compare results when Orr has and hasn't been in the team. I know everybody is entitled to their opinion but it seems to be the same people slating Orr who are still slating Dann, despite both playing well this season. It's glaringly obvious that people are still judging both based on last season's performances.
Hi SRVP The facts are that he is an average player at best compared to what we have had even back as far as Hird Bailey etc No Pace Offers what any AVERAGE right back would, is that good enough for us with our supposed ambitions.
Gary Neville had no pace, it didn't make him a bad right-back. Before you say anything, no, I'm not comparing Orr to Neville. I'm just pointing out that you don't need pacy full-backs when you have decent attacking players in front of you. Irregardless of pace, Orr still manages to get balls into the box and has done since he arrived.

In case it escaped your notice, we are an average side these days. I'd rather have Orr in the side than Henley, he may be quick but, like Martin Olsson on the other flank, he's not a great full-back and would be better utilised on the wing.
[quote][p][bold]MattNewcastle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: There are far too many people on here who still harbour a grudge against Orr because of what he said in the immediate aftermath of the team getting relegated. Of course what he said wasn't going to endear him to the fans but what else was he supposed to say when asked a leading question about his boss? Anybody saying that he's a poor player at this level needs to get themselves down to Specsavers. Either that or just stop judging players on last season's performances. Orr has been a solid player in the Championship all season, for us and Ipswich. If you don't agree perhaps you should check both teams stats and compare results when Orr has and hasn't been in the team. I know everybody is entitled to their opinion but it seems to be the same people slating Orr who are still slating Dann, despite both playing well this season. It's glaringly obvious that people are still judging both based on last season's performances.[/p][/quote]Hi SRVP The facts are that he is an average player at best compared to what we have had even back as far as Hird Bailey etc No Pace Offers what any AVERAGE right back would, is that good enough for us with our supposed ambitions.[/p][/quote]Gary Neville had no pace, it didn't make him a bad right-back. Before you say anything, no, I'm not comparing Orr to Neville. I'm just pointing out that you don't need pacy full-backs when you have decent attacking players in front of you. Irregardless of pace, Orr still manages to get balls into the box and has done since he arrived. In case it escaped your notice, we are an average side these days. I'd rather have Orr in the side than Henley, he may be quick but, like Martin Olsson on the other flank, he's not a great full-back and would be better utilised on the wing. srvp28

7:06pm Fri 8 Feb 13

MattNewcastle says...

If Appleton plays Orr it says a great deal about his vision, ambition and philosophy in terms of providing real attacking threat down both flanks.

Pick out the best photo fit full backs and what do they all have in common.

Anderson / Baines / Cole / Pearce / Le Saux / Hird / Bailey /
If Appleton plays Orr it says a great deal about his vision, ambition and philosophy in terms of providing real attacking threat down both flanks. Pick out the best photo fit full backs and what do they all have in common. Anderson / Baines / Cole / Pearce / Le Saux / Hird / Bailey / MattNewcastle

7:12pm Fri 8 Feb 13

MattNewcastle says...

srvp28 wrote:
MattNewcastle wrote:
srvp28 wrote: There are far too many people on here who still harbour a grudge against Orr because of what he said in the immediate aftermath of the team getting relegated. Of course what he said wasn't going to endear him to the fans but what else was he supposed to say when asked a leading question about his boss? Anybody saying that he's a poor player at this level needs to get themselves down to Specsavers. Either that or just stop judging players on last season's performances. Orr has been a solid player in the Championship all season, for us and Ipswich. If you don't agree perhaps you should check both teams stats and compare results when Orr has and hasn't been in the team. I know everybody is entitled to their opinion but it seems to be the same people slating Orr who are still slating Dann, despite both playing well this season. It's glaringly obvious that people are still judging both based on last season's performances.
Hi SRVP The facts are that he is an average player at best compared to what we have had even back as far as Hird Bailey etc No Pace Offers what any AVERAGE right back would, is that good enough for us with our supposed ambitions.
Gary Neville had no pace, it didn't make him a bad right-back. Before you say anything, no, I'm not comparing Orr to Neville. I'm just pointing out that you don't need pacy full-backs when you have decent attacking players in front of you. Irregardless of pace, Orr still manages to get balls into the box and has done since he arrived.

In case it escaped your notice, we are an average side these days. I'd rather have Orr in the side than Henley, he may be quick but, like Martin Olsson on the other flank, he's not a great full-back and would be better utilised on the wing.
I totally respect your viewpoint, however, I would rather have Lowe than Orr at Right Back.

I guess this is what this forum is for to express differing views.

As for being an average side I hope that is not the case and we move up the table to a play off place and then who knows what may await us.
[quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MattNewcastle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: There are far too many people on here who still harbour a grudge against Orr because of what he said in the immediate aftermath of the team getting relegated. Of course what he said wasn't going to endear him to the fans but what else was he supposed to say when asked a leading question about his boss? Anybody saying that he's a poor player at this level needs to get themselves down to Specsavers. Either that or just stop judging players on last season's performances. Orr has been a solid player in the Championship all season, for us and Ipswich. If you don't agree perhaps you should check both teams stats and compare results when Orr has and hasn't been in the team. I know everybody is entitled to their opinion but it seems to be the same people slating Orr who are still slating Dann, despite both playing well this season. It's glaringly obvious that people are still judging both based on last season's performances.[/p][/quote]Hi SRVP The facts are that he is an average player at best compared to what we have had even back as far as Hird Bailey etc No Pace Offers what any AVERAGE right back would, is that good enough for us with our supposed ambitions.[/p][/quote]Gary Neville had no pace, it didn't make him a bad right-back. Before you say anything, no, I'm not comparing Orr to Neville. I'm just pointing out that you don't need pacy full-backs when you have decent attacking players in front of you. Irregardless of pace, Orr still manages to get balls into the box and has done since he arrived. In case it escaped your notice, we are an average side these days. I'd rather have Orr in the side than Henley, he may be quick but, like Martin Olsson on the other flank, he's not a great full-back and would be better utilised on the wing.[/p][/quote]I totally respect your viewpoint, however, I would rather have Lowe than Orr at Right Back. I guess this is what this forum is for to express differing views. As for being an average side I hope that is not the case and we move up the table to a play off place and then who knows what may await us. MattNewcastle

7:13pm Fri 8 Feb 13

MattNewcastle says...

srvp28 wrote:
MattNewcastle wrote:
srvp28 wrote: There are far too many people on here who still harbour a grudge against Orr because of what he said in the immediate aftermath of the team getting relegated. Of course what he said wasn't going to endear him to the fans but what else was he supposed to say when asked a leading question about his boss? Anybody saying that he's a poor player at this level needs to get themselves down to Specsavers. Either that or just stop judging players on last season's performances. Orr has been a solid player in the Championship all season, for us and Ipswich. If you don't agree perhaps you should check both teams stats and compare results when Orr has and hasn't been in the team. I know everybody is entitled to their opinion but it seems to be the same people slating Orr who are still slating Dann, despite both playing well this season. It's glaringly obvious that people are still judging both based on last season's performances.
Hi SRVP The facts are that he is an average player at best compared to what we have had even back as far as Hird Bailey etc No Pace Offers what any AVERAGE right back would, is that good enough for us with our supposed ambitions.
Gary Neville had no pace, it didn't make him a bad right-back. Before you say anything, no, I'm not comparing Orr to Neville. I'm just pointing out that you don't need pacy full-backs when you have decent attacking players in front of you. Irregardless of pace, Orr still manages to get balls into the box and has done since he arrived.

In case it escaped your notice, we are an average side these days. I'd rather have Orr in the side than Henley, he may be quick but, like Martin Olsson on the other flank, he's not a great full-back and would be better utilised on the wing.
I would say that the right back position has been a problem area for England for some time and still is.
[quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MattNewcastle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: There are far too many people on here who still harbour a grudge against Orr because of what he said in the immediate aftermath of the team getting relegated. Of course what he said wasn't going to endear him to the fans but what else was he supposed to say when asked a leading question about his boss? Anybody saying that he's a poor player at this level needs to get themselves down to Specsavers. Either that or just stop judging players on last season's performances. Orr has been a solid player in the Championship all season, for us and Ipswich. If you don't agree perhaps you should check both teams stats and compare results when Orr has and hasn't been in the team. I know everybody is entitled to their opinion but it seems to be the same people slating Orr who are still slating Dann, despite both playing well this season. It's glaringly obvious that people are still judging both based on last season's performances.[/p][/quote]Hi SRVP The facts are that he is an average player at best compared to what we have had even back as far as Hird Bailey etc No Pace Offers what any AVERAGE right back would, is that good enough for us with our supposed ambitions.[/p][/quote]Gary Neville had no pace, it didn't make him a bad right-back. Before you say anything, no, I'm not comparing Orr to Neville. I'm just pointing out that you don't need pacy full-backs when you have decent attacking players in front of you. Irregardless of pace, Orr still manages to get balls into the box and has done since he arrived. In case it escaped your notice, we are an average side these days. I'd rather have Orr in the side than Henley, he may be quick but, like Martin Olsson on the other flank, he's not a great full-back and would be better utilised on the wing.[/p][/quote]I would say that the right back position has been a problem area for England for some time and still is. MattNewcastle

7:14pm Fri 8 Feb 13

bburnrover says...

Orr isnt up to it and Appleton should watch some matches before he makes silly statements which will back fire on him
Orr isnt up to it and Appleton should watch some matches before he makes silly statements which will back fire on him bburnrover

8:11pm Fri 8 Feb 13

greenscreener says...

srvp28 wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
srvp28 wrote: There are far too many people on here who still harbour a grudge against Orr because of what he said in the immediate aftermath of the team getting relegated. Of course what he said wasn't going to endear him to the fans but what else was he supposed to say when asked a leading question about his boss? Anybody saying that he's a poor player at this level needs to get themselves down to Specsavers. Either that or just stop judging players on last season's performances. Orr has been a solid player in the Championship all season, for us and Ipswich. If you don't agree perhaps you should check both teams stats and compare results when Orr has and hasn't been in the team. I know everybody is entitled to their opinion but it seems to be the same people slating Orr who are still slating Dann, despite both playing well this season. It's glaringly obvious that people are still judging both based on last season's performances.
My opinion of Orr as a footballer is that he does not read the game very well. This would be less of an issue if he had the pace to recover from frequently being out of position in open play. Those who rate him often quote his desire to overlap, which can be eye catching, but this does not excuse his poor positional awareness when defending. He makes poor choices regarding when to get tight and when to back off and provides very little cover for the centre halves. I watched him on TV earlier this season, playing for Ipswich in this league and he was directly at fault for at least 3 of the goals they conceded. On what I've seen on the pitch I rate Hanley and Lowe as quicker and more effective defenders.
I do of course mean Henley, we are talking about right backs.
What game was that then? Please don't say the drubbing Ipswich received at the hands of Leicester in Orr's first game, I've already had to point out to somebody else before that it simply wasn't the case.
Clearly you know it was, goals coming from his being out of position and exposed as lacking pace even at championship level.

So we have different opinions on this, no big deal, personally I'd be happy if he improved and had some good games for us, just not my idea of a good defender.
[quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: There are far too many people on here who still harbour a grudge against Orr because of what he said in the immediate aftermath of the team getting relegated. Of course what he said wasn't going to endear him to the fans but what else was he supposed to say when asked a leading question about his boss? Anybody saying that he's a poor player at this level needs to get themselves down to Specsavers. Either that or just stop judging players on last season's performances. Orr has been a solid player in the Championship all season, for us and Ipswich. If you don't agree perhaps you should check both teams stats and compare results when Orr has and hasn't been in the team. I know everybody is entitled to their opinion but it seems to be the same people slating Orr who are still slating Dann, despite both playing well this season. It's glaringly obvious that people are still judging both based on last season's performances.[/p][/quote]My opinion of Orr as a footballer is that he does not read the game very well. This would be less of an issue if he had the pace to recover from frequently being out of position in open play. Those who rate him often quote his desire to overlap, which can be eye catching, but this does not excuse his poor positional awareness when defending. He makes poor choices regarding when to get tight and when to back off and provides very little cover for the centre halves. I watched him on TV earlier this season, playing for Ipswich in this league and he was directly at fault for at least 3 of the goals they conceded. On what I've seen on the pitch I rate Hanley and Lowe as quicker and more effective defenders.[/p][/quote]I do of course mean Henley, we are talking about right backs.[/p][/quote]What game was that then? Please don't say the drubbing Ipswich received at the hands of Leicester in Orr's first game, I've already had to point out to somebody else before that it simply wasn't the case.[/p][/quote]Clearly you know it was, goals coming from his being out of position and exposed as lacking pace even at championship level. So we have different opinions on this, no big deal, personally I'd be happy if he improved and had some good games for us, just not my idea of a good defender. greenscreener

8:25pm Fri 8 Feb 13

dallydally says...

As infectious as many a nasty virus. Glad when he left and gutted that he is back. A poor player and worse still lover of Kean. Orrful!
As infectious as many a nasty virus. Glad when he left and gutted that he is back. A poor player and worse still lover of Kean. Orrful! dallydally

8:44pm Fri 8 Feb 13

Neilb13 says...

I think theres too much reading into this, Bradley Orr is not a terrible footballer, he wouldn't be where he is if he was, this game is far too ruthless. Now we can all agree that his first stint at the club wasn't covered in glory but bottom line is, we are not getting the winger we wanted & i suspect Appleton found this out and has called back a right sided player as cover in case he cannot get anything else lined up. Then give the lad a little bit of confidence coming into the club by maybe saying something nice in a paper about him and maybe he goes from strength to strength if not he moves on in the summer. no panic
I think theres too much reading into this, Bradley Orr is not a terrible footballer, he wouldn't be where he is if he was, this game is far too ruthless. Now we can all agree that his first stint at the club wasn't covered in glory but bottom line is, we are not getting the winger we wanted & i suspect Appleton found this out and has called back a right sided player as cover in case he cannot get anything else lined up. Then give the lad a little bit of confidence coming into the club by maybe saying something nice in a paper about him and maybe he goes from strength to strength if not he moves on in the summer. no panic Neilb13

8:46pm Fri 8 Feb 13

Angry From Accrington says...

1952 rover wrote:
Angry From Accrington wrote:
As infectious as a virus
How Sad You Are.
In what way, sad?
[quote][p][bold]1952 rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: As infectious as a virus[/p][/quote]How Sad You Are.[/p][/quote]In what way, sad? Angry From Accrington

10:06pm Fri 8 Feb 13

srvp28 says...

greenscreener wrote:
srvp28 wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
srvp28 wrote: There are far too many people on here who still harbour a grudge against Orr because of what he said in the immediate aftermath of the team getting relegated. Of course what he said wasn't going to endear him to the fans but what else was he supposed to say when asked a leading question about his boss? Anybody saying that he's a poor player at this level needs to get themselves down to Specsavers. Either that or just stop judging players on last season's performances. Orr has been a solid player in the Championship all season, for us and Ipswich. If you don't agree perhaps you should check both teams stats and compare results when Orr has and hasn't been in the team. I know everybody is entitled to their opinion but it seems to be the same people slating Orr who are still slating Dann, despite both playing well this season. It's glaringly obvious that people are still judging both based on last season's performances.
My opinion of Orr as a footballer is that he does not read the game very well. This would be less of an issue if he had the pace to recover from frequently being out of position in open play. Those who rate him often quote his desire to overlap, which can be eye catching, but this does not excuse his poor positional awareness when defending. He makes poor choices regarding when to get tight and when to back off and provides very little cover for the centre halves. I watched him on TV earlier this season, playing for Ipswich in this league and he was directly at fault for at least 3 of the goals they conceded. On what I've seen on the pitch I rate Hanley and Lowe as quicker and more effective defenders.
I do of course mean Henley, we are talking about right backs.
What game was that then? Please don't say the drubbing Ipswich received at the hands of Leicester in Orr's first game, I've already had to point out to somebody else before that it simply wasn't the case.
Clearly you know it was, goals coming from his being out of position and exposed as lacking pace even at championship level. So we have different opinions on this, no big deal, personally I'd be happy if he improved and had some good games for us, just not my idea of a good defender.
No, not clearly, it's that there were only two games in which Ipswich conceded more than 3 goals since he arrived. As I said, I've already pointed out to another poster that he wasn't at fault for three goals, only one. Funny though, people say that he's no good going forward yet say he gets caught out of position a lot. It can't be both. My idea of a defender, well full-back, is somebody that defends and only goes bombing forward if needs be. A lot of people on here want their full-backs to play as defenders and wingers all game long. Not every full-back can be Ashley Cole or Daniel Alves, certainly not at this level. Either way, you've not been impressed and that's your entitled opinion. Personally, I think he's had plenty of solid games already this season, including last week's game against Bristol City.
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: There are far too many people on here who still harbour a grudge against Orr because of what he said in the immediate aftermath of the team getting relegated. Of course what he said wasn't going to endear him to the fans but what else was he supposed to say when asked a leading question about his boss? Anybody saying that he's a poor player at this level needs to get themselves down to Specsavers. Either that or just stop judging players on last season's performances. Orr has been a solid player in the Championship all season, for us and Ipswich. If you don't agree perhaps you should check both teams stats and compare results when Orr has and hasn't been in the team. I know everybody is entitled to their opinion but it seems to be the same people slating Orr who are still slating Dann, despite both playing well this season. It's glaringly obvious that people are still judging both based on last season's performances.[/p][/quote]My opinion of Orr as a footballer is that he does not read the game very well. This would be less of an issue if he had the pace to recover from frequently being out of position in open play. Those who rate him often quote his desire to overlap, which can be eye catching, but this does not excuse his poor positional awareness when defending. He makes poor choices regarding when to get tight and when to back off and provides very little cover for the centre halves. I watched him on TV earlier this season, playing for Ipswich in this league and he was directly at fault for at least 3 of the goals they conceded. On what I've seen on the pitch I rate Hanley and Lowe as quicker and more effective defenders.[/p][/quote]I do of course mean Henley, we are talking about right backs.[/p][/quote]What game was that then? Please don't say the drubbing Ipswich received at the hands of Leicester in Orr's first game, I've already had to point out to somebody else before that it simply wasn't the case.[/p][/quote]Clearly you know it was, goals coming from his being out of position and exposed as lacking pace even at championship level. So we have different opinions on this, no big deal, personally I'd be happy if he improved and had some good games for us, just not my idea of a good defender.[/p][/quote]No, not clearly, it's that there were only two games in which Ipswich conceded more than 3 goals since he arrived. As I said, I've already pointed out to another poster that he wasn't at fault for three goals, only one. Funny though, people say that he's no good going forward yet say he gets caught out of position a lot. It can't be both. My idea of a defender, well full-back, is somebody that defends and only goes bombing forward if needs be. A lot of people on here want their full-backs to play as defenders and wingers all game long. Not every full-back can be Ashley Cole or Daniel Alves, certainly not at this level. Either way, you've not been impressed and that's your entitled opinion. Personally, I think he's had plenty of solid games already this season, including last week's game against Bristol City. srvp28

10:08pm Fri 8 Feb 13

CheltRover says...

srvp28 wrote:
There are far too many people on here who still harbour a grudge against Orr because of what he said in the immediate aftermath of the team getting relegated. Of course what he said wasn't going to endear him to the fans but what else was he supposed to say when asked a leading question about his boss?

Anybody saying that he's a poor player at this level needs to get themselves down to Specsavers. Either that or just stop judging players on last season's performances. Orr has been a solid player in the Championship all season, for us and Ipswich. If you don't agree perhaps you should check both teams stats and compare results when Orr has and hasn't been in the team.

I know everybody is entitled to their opinion but it seems to be the same people slating Orr who are still slating Dann, despite both playing well this season. It's glaringly obvious that people are still judging both based on last season's performances.
What was he supposed to do? Do his talking on the pitch maybe? Instead we have an average pro, who likes to talk the talk but can't walk the walk. He can't keep his gob shut, so instead of keeping quiet and sussing out the lay of the land first when he joined, he starts spouting nonsense about kean. He really didn't know which way the wind was blowing, and got it totally wrong. He made his bed right there. Appleton says he's infectious, but he's just a scouse gob sh***
[quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: There are far too many people on here who still harbour a grudge against Orr because of what he said in the immediate aftermath of the team getting relegated. Of course what he said wasn't going to endear him to the fans but what else was he supposed to say when asked a leading question about his boss? Anybody saying that he's a poor player at this level needs to get themselves down to Specsavers. Either that or just stop judging players on last season's performances. Orr has been a solid player in the Championship all season, for us and Ipswich. If you don't agree perhaps you should check both teams stats and compare results when Orr has and hasn't been in the team. I know everybody is entitled to their opinion but it seems to be the same people slating Orr who are still slating Dann, despite both playing well this season. It's glaringly obvious that people are still judging both based on last season's performances.[/p][/quote]What was he supposed to do? Do his talking on the pitch maybe? Instead we have an average pro, who likes to talk the talk but can't walk the walk. He can't keep his gob shut, so instead of keeping quiet and sussing out the lay of the land first when he joined, he starts spouting nonsense about kean. He really didn't know which way the wind was blowing, and got it totally wrong. He made his bed right there. Appleton says he's infectious, but he's just a scouse gob sh*** CheltRover

10:23pm Fri 8 Feb 13

srvp28 says...

CheltRover wrote:
srvp28 wrote: There are far too many people on here who still harbour a grudge against Orr because of what he said in the immediate aftermath of the team getting relegated. Of course what he said wasn't going to endear him to the fans but what else was he supposed to say when asked a leading question about his boss? Anybody saying that he's a poor player at this level needs to get themselves down to Specsavers. Either that or just stop judging players on last season's performances. Orr has been a solid player in the Championship all season, for us and Ipswich. If you don't agree perhaps you should check both teams stats and compare results when Orr has and hasn't been in the team. I know everybody is entitled to their opinion but it seems to be the same people slating Orr who are still slating Dann, despite both playing well this season. It's glaringly obvious that people are still judging both based on last season's performances.
What was he supposed to do? Do his talking on the pitch maybe? Instead we have an average pro, who likes to talk the talk but can't walk the walk. He can't keep his gob shut, so instead of keeping quiet and sussing out the lay of the land first when he joined, he starts spouting nonsense about kean. He really didn't know which way the wind was blowing, and got it totally wrong. He made his bed right there. Appleton says he's infectious, but he's just a scouse gob sh***
Would you bad mouth your boss to the media?
[quote][p][bold]CheltRover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: There are far too many people on here who still harbour a grudge against Orr because of what he said in the immediate aftermath of the team getting relegated. Of course what he said wasn't going to endear him to the fans but what else was he supposed to say when asked a leading question about his boss? Anybody saying that he's a poor player at this level needs to get themselves down to Specsavers. Either that or just stop judging players on last season's performances. Orr has been a solid player in the Championship all season, for us and Ipswich. If you don't agree perhaps you should check both teams stats and compare results when Orr has and hasn't been in the team. I know everybody is entitled to their opinion but it seems to be the same people slating Orr who are still slating Dann, despite both playing well this season. It's glaringly obvious that people are still judging both based on last season's performances.[/p][/quote]What was he supposed to do? Do his talking on the pitch maybe? Instead we have an average pro, who likes to talk the talk but can't walk the walk. He can't keep his gob shut, so instead of keeping quiet and sussing out the lay of the land first when he joined, he starts spouting nonsense about kean. He really didn't know which way the wind was blowing, and got it totally wrong. He made his bed right there. Appleton says he's infectious, but he's just a scouse gob sh***[/p][/quote]Would you bad mouth your boss to the media? srvp28

9:23am Sat 9 Feb 13

dangerous dave says...

intothevalley wrote:
ChrisDeBerg wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
Fair enough I say. Yes he's looked useless but who didn't amongst the total chaos that was Kean's team ? Trust Appleton's judgment, give him another chance and he might, and I say 'might', just come good. If not he'll have to go.
Orr is back for one reason - the Venkys wont supply cash for investment in good sound players, only freebies/loans on cheap wages - in other words make do with what youv'e got - Orr may be a good 'joker' in the dressing room but has done nothing to prove he is a 'good player on the field'!!
OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM
Hi Dave, I've been one of Venkys biggest critics this last couple of years and have noted their reluctance to spend and to do things on the cheap. I just thought give Orr another chance and he might come good. Hope so.
Yeah Dave, again you sprouting your mouth off! Could you play right back? I bet not! Like people have said already, let him have a chance to prove himself in a more solid team with Appletons rules and pre-match talks etc. You never know, if he has got time to shine (as appleton obviously thinks he does), then give him that chance. If he makes too many mistakes then I'm quite sure Appleton will see that and make his OWN decision to ship him on his way!

Just stop being so negative all the time... And get yourself down to a rovers game so you can actually comment on rovers players and their performances!

DANGEROUS DAVE OUT

RTID
Wouldn't call Rhodes cheap!!!
Is still cheap being paid for on the never never with a fat get out clause for him and the Venkys to get big pay off - £3m up front rest never never!!!!!!!!!!
No other investment what so ever other then freebies/loans
OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM
[quote][p][bold]intothevalley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChrisDeBerg[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: Fair enough I say. Yes he's looked useless but who didn't amongst the total chaos that was Kean's team ? Trust Appleton's judgment, give him another chance and he might, and I say 'might', just come good. If not he'll have to go.[/p][/quote]Orr is back for one reason - the Venkys wont supply cash for investment in good sound players, only freebies/loans on cheap wages - in other words make do with what youv'e got - Orr may be a good 'joker' in the dressing room but has done nothing to prove he is a 'good player on the field'!! OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM[/p][/quote]Hi Dave, I've been one of Venkys biggest critics this last couple of years and have noted their reluctance to spend and to do things on the cheap. I just thought give Orr another chance and he might come good. Hope so.[/p][/quote]Yeah Dave, again you sprouting your mouth off! Could you play right back? I bet not! Like people have said already, let him have a chance to prove himself in a more solid team with Appletons rules and pre-match talks etc. You never know, if he has got time to shine (as appleton obviously thinks he does), then give him that chance. If he makes too many mistakes then I'm quite sure Appleton will see that and make his OWN decision to ship him on his way! Just stop being so negative all the time... And get yourself down to a rovers game so you can actually comment on rovers players and their performances! DANGEROUS DAVE OUT RTID[/p][/quote]Wouldn't call Rhodes cheap!!![/p][/quote]Is still cheap being paid for on the never never with a fat get out clause for him and the Venkys to get big pay off - £3m up front rest never never!!!!!!!!!! No other investment what so ever other then freebies/loans OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM dangerous dave

12:32pm Sat 9 Feb 13

CheltRover says...

srvp28 wrote:
CheltRover wrote:
srvp28 wrote: There are far too many people on here who still harbour a grudge against Orr because of what he said in the immediate aftermath of the team getting relegated. Of course what he said wasn't going to endear him to the fans but what else was he supposed to say when asked a leading question about his boss? Anybody saying that he's a poor player at this level needs to get themselves down to Specsavers. Either that or just stop judging players on last season's performances. Orr has been a solid player in the Championship all season, for us and Ipswich. If you don't agree perhaps you should check both teams stats and compare results when Orr has and hasn't been in the team. I know everybody is entitled to their opinion but it seems to be the same people slating Orr who are still slating Dann, despite both playing well this season. It's glaringly obvious that people are still judging both based on last season's performances.
What was he supposed to do? Do his talking on the pitch maybe? Instead we have an average pro, who likes to talk the talk but can't walk the walk. He can't keep his gob shut, so instead of keeping quiet and sussing out the lay of the land first when he joined, he starts spouting nonsense about kean. He really didn't know which way the wind was blowing, and got it totally wrong. He made his bed right there. Appleton says he's infectious, but he's just a scouse gob sh***
Would you bad mouth your boss to the media?
No I wouldn't, clearly that wouldn't be good. The point I was making, in case you missed it, was Orr put himself into that position by courting the media right from the off. I lost count of the "quotes" from him and thought why does he think we are interested? Better to get your head down at your new club, put in some good performances, get the fans onside. It would've been OK if he'd been able to walk the walk, but he couldn't. Instead he made himself look foolish, and got people's backs up.

Maybe he'll learn this time around
[quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CheltRover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: There are far too many people on here who still harbour a grudge against Orr because of what he said in the immediate aftermath of the team getting relegated. Of course what he said wasn't going to endear him to the fans but what else was he supposed to say when asked a leading question about his boss? Anybody saying that he's a poor player at this level needs to get themselves down to Specsavers. Either that or just stop judging players on last season's performances. Orr has been a solid player in the Championship all season, for us and Ipswich. If you don't agree perhaps you should check both teams stats and compare results when Orr has and hasn't been in the team. I know everybody is entitled to their opinion but it seems to be the same people slating Orr who are still slating Dann, despite both playing well this season. It's glaringly obvious that people are still judging both based on last season's performances.[/p][/quote]What was he supposed to do? Do his talking on the pitch maybe? Instead we have an average pro, who likes to talk the talk but can't walk the walk. He can't keep his gob shut, so instead of keeping quiet and sussing out the lay of the land first when he joined, he starts spouting nonsense about kean. He really didn't know which way the wind was blowing, and got it totally wrong. He made his bed right there. Appleton says he's infectious, but he's just a scouse gob sh***[/p][/quote]Would you bad mouth your boss to the media?[/p][/quote]No I wouldn't, clearly that wouldn't be good. The point I was making, in case you missed it, was Orr put himself into that position by courting the media right from the off. I lost count of the "quotes" from him and thought why does he think we are interested? Better to get your head down at your new club, put in some good performances, get the fans onside. It would've been OK if he'd been able to walk the walk, but he couldn't. Instead he made himself look foolish, and got people's backs up. Maybe he'll learn this time around CheltRover

2:16pm Sat 9 Feb 13

srvp28 says...

CheltRover wrote:
srvp28 wrote:
CheltRover wrote:
srvp28 wrote: There are far too many people on here who still harbour a grudge against Orr because of what he said in the immediate aftermath of the team getting relegated. Of course what he said wasn't going to endear him to the fans but what else was he supposed to say when asked a leading question about his boss? Anybody saying that he's a poor player at this level needs to get themselves down to Specsavers. Either that or just stop judging players on last season's performances. Orr has been a solid player in the Championship all season, for us and Ipswich. If you don't agree perhaps you should check both teams stats and compare results when Orr has and hasn't been in the team. I know everybody is entitled to their opinion but it seems to be the same people slating Orr who are still slating Dann, despite both playing well this season. It's glaringly obvious that people are still judging both based on last season's performances.
What was he supposed to do? Do his talking on the pitch maybe? Instead we have an average pro, who likes to talk the talk but can't walk the walk. He can't keep his gob shut, so instead of keeping quiet and sussing out the lay of the land first when he joined, he starts spouting nonsense about kean. He really didn't know which way the wind was blowing, and got it totally wrong. He made his bed right there. Appleton says he's infectious, but he's just a scouse gob sh***
Would you bad mouth your boss to the media?
No I wouldn't, clearly that wouldn't be good. The point I was making, in case you missed it, was Orr put himself into that position by courting the media right from the off. I lost count of the "quotes" from him and thought why does he think we are interested? Better to get your head down at your new club, put in some good performances, get the fans onside. It would've been OK if he'd been able to walk the walk, but he couldn't. Instead he made himself look foolish, and got people's backs up. Maybe he'll learn this time around
Courted the media? Have a word with yourself, when players first arrive at clubs they're inevitably interviewed by the press. If he gets asked a question what's he supposed to say, "no comment"?
[quote][p][bold]CheltRover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CheltRover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: There are far too many people on here who still harbour a grudge against Orr because of what he said in the immediate aftermath of the team getting relegated. Of course what he said wasn't going to endear him to the fans but what else was he supposed to say when asked a leading question about his boss? Anybody saying that he's a poor player at this level needs to get themselves down to Specsavers. Either that or just stop judging players on last season's performances. Orr has been a solid player in the Championship all season, for us and Ipswich. If you don't agree perhaps you should check both teams stats and compare results when Orr has and hasn't been in the team. I know everybody is entitled to their opinion but it seems to be the same people slating Orr who are still slating Dann, despite both playing well this season. It's glaringly obvious that people are still judging both based on last season's performances.[/p][/quote]What was he supposed to do? Do his talking on the pitch maybe? Instead we have an average pro, who likes to talk the talk but can't walk the walk. He can't keep his gob shut, so instead of keeping quiet and sussing out the lay of the land first when he joined, he starts spouting nonsense about kean. He really didn't know which way the wind was blowing, and got it totally wrong. He made his bed right there. Appleton says he's infectious, but he's just a scouse gob sh***[/p][/quote]Would you bad mouth your boss to the media?[/p][/quote]No I wouldn't, clearly that wouldn't be good. The point I was making, in case you missed it, was Orr put himself into that position by courting the media right from the off. I lost count of the "quotes" from him and thought why does he think we are interested? Better to get your head down at your new club, put in some good performances, get the fans onside. It would've been OK if he'd been able to walk the walk, but he couldn't. Instead he made himself look foolish, and got people's backs up. Maybe he'll learn this time around[/p][/quote]Courted the media? Have a word with yourself, when players first arrive at clubs they're inevitably interviewed by the press. If he gets asked a question what's he supposed to say, "no comment"? srvp28

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