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Blackpool grant Rovers permission to talk to Appleton
5:33pm Thursday 10th January 2013 in Football
By Andy Cryer, Blackburn Rovers reporter
Michael Appleton
BLACKBURN Rovers have been given permission to speak to Blackpool boss Michael Appleton about the vacant role at Ewood Park.
It is understood the Seasiders are resigned to losing the former Portsmouth boss and are already planning for their next manager, having only appointed Appleton two months ago.
Rovers have confirmed talks will take place tomorrow.
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Guzford
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5:37pm Thu 10 Jan 13
HHHH
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5:37pm Thu 10 Jan 13
greenscreener
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5:38pm Thu 10 Jan 13
- Scream if you want to go faster -
shedhead64
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5:39pm Thu 10 Jan 13
HHHH wrote:I agree.
Give the guy a chance. Everyone is shocked but it ain't his fault we have a set of fools in charge. If he's got any sense he'll make Bowyer his number 2.
god Im bored
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5:40pm Thu 10 Jan 13
The only thing he is experienced in is dealing with shambolic owners at Portsmouth & not being able to deal with the Oystons at Blackpool.
Well done Shebby, pat yourself on the back, you have found a famous, well respected experienced manager.
Fool!!
greenscreener
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5:40pm Thu 10 Jan 13
greenscreener
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5:42pm Thu 10 Jan 13
god Im bored wrote:I think you will find Shebby saying "you know he wasn't my choice, you know"
So much for searching out an experienced manager?.
The only thing he is experienced in is dealing with shambolic owners at Portsmouth & not being able to deal with the Oystons at Blackpool.
Well done Shebby, pat yourself on the back, you have found a famous, well respected experienced manager.
Fool!!
Rayzerisaloser
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5:43pm Thu 10 Jan 13
Dublin rover
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5:46pm Thu 10 Jan 13
Is Eckersley playing?
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5:47pm Thu 10 Jan 13
god Im bored wrote:Forget Shabby. He's history,(apart from sorting out his compensation\)
So much for searching out an experienced manager?.
The only thing he is experienced in is dealing with shambolic owners at Portsmouth & not being able to deal with the Oystons at Blackpool.
Well done Shebby, pat yourself on the back, you have found a famous, well respected experienced manager.
Fool!!
owd nick
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5:48pm Thu 10 Jan 13
What is going on at Ewood isn't his fault.
It does look like things are changing behind the scenes, Shebby is as silent as the grave which is a massive bonus, Shaw and Agnew are about as popular as rabies, but at least they know something about football in this country, and that might, just might mean that Venky's are actually listening for once.
blackburnsoutherner
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5:50pm Thu 10 Jan 13
srvp28
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5:52pm Thu 10 Jan 13
HHHH wrote:I didn't think Berg was the right choice but I supported him 100% when he got the job and, despite poor results, I feel he was treated disgracefully by the owners. If Appleton is Berg's replacement I'll support him 100% too, although he's in for a shock if he thinks the grass is greener on this side of Lancashire.
Give the guy a chance. Everyone is shocked but it ain't his fault we have a set of fools in charge. If he's got any sense he'll make Bowyer his number 2.
I think Appleton will bring his own team with him. However, if Bowyer is asked to be his assistant I hope he's got the sense to turn it down and resume his normal duties.
Pooloflife
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5:52pm Thu 10 Jan 13
HHHH
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5:52pm Thu 10 Jan 13
blackburnsoutherner wrote:I've yet to see a picture of Appleton with anything other than a scowl on his face. He looks fcking nails.
Only good thing about him is he wont take no crap from ss!!!!!!!!
noddymcleod
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5:53pm Thu 10 Jan 13
At least he knows how to operate with absent idiotic owners and a club on the way to ruin. Which is why he got the job.
Rovers are a better job at present than Blackpool ? Wow, poor Blackpool.
madrover
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5:53pm Thu 10 Jan 13
maltaman
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5:53pm Thu 10 Jan 13
shedhead64 wrote:Yes give the guy a chance, we aint going to get anyone of the caliber we really want with the circus in charge and he hasn't had a bad upbringing in football. Did wonders at Portsmouth under difficult circumstances, almost a different team every week and he got the best out of every player.
HHHH wrote:I agree.
Give the guy a chance. Everyone is shocked but it ain't his fault we have a set of fools in charge. If he's got any sense he'll make Bowyer his number 2.
cboyer
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5:56pm Thu 10 Jan 13
dangerous dave
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6:00pm Thu 10 Jan 13
Guzford wrote:Have to agree the circus continues - just another job for the boys a good mate of Shaw's and if he comes a very poor appointment as time will prove!!!!
Very dissapointing...keep him Blackpool we don't want him
Blackpool, reading between the lines will not be too un happy loosing this man only in the job with them a fews months with no loyalty what so ever and already wants to move on. So much for his remarks about Blackpool when joining them quote 'joining a club with ambition' - pity he doesnt think the same way - yes will be a poor appointment!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH HENDRY COAR VENKYS
sallycinamon
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6:01pm Thu 10 Jan 13
roversammo
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6:01pm Thu 10 Jan 13
sonny
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6:04pm Thu 10 Jan 13
gh!Shebby!).
And BRAG/Glen Mullan can stuff there nasty little pro-shebby propaganda statement up there botbots, as they do only represent anybody but themselves and there master Shebby.
deano162
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6:04pm Thu 10 Jan 13
Colne lads back
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6:05pm Thu 10 Jan 13
Nice tattoo
J.C - Rishton
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6:06pm Thu 10 Jan 13
1 - He's worked under RH and R DiM - two great people to learn from.
2 - He's worked at Pompy so he's just about the most experienced young manager who's worked at a club that is imploding.
3 - He did a good job at Pompey whilst having to sell ALL of his players (don't just look at his win/lose ratio - thats too simplistic - look how Pompys results have now totally collapsed since he has left.
4 - His results at Blackpool havnt been great but 12 games is too low a number to statistically see how he is (turn 2 of them draws into wins and he'd have done quite well - thats why 12 is too low a number to judge him on).
5 - Rovers are losing £2m per month, we need a manager who can get reasonably good results whilst continually losing his best and most experienced players - THIS IS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN at BRFC over the next 12 months - get used to it - he has experience at handling this type of situation at Pompy.
6 - To all those (majority) who are moaning about his appointment - who else would take the job ?
Pep G ? - I know he said he was ready to resume work but I don't think he had East Lancs in mind !
Mark Hughes - Has given no indication about wanting the job. Would MH really put up with the Venkys and SS ?
Billy Davies - Personally I thought he would be great but most on here didnt want him either.
Phil Brown - Have they really let this guy out on day release from the loony bin ?
Peter Taylor - Please God no !
OGS - Why would he work for the "Loones from Pune" when he can have his pick of jobs ?
Karl Robinson - Most Rovers fans don't want him because of his "lack of experience".
Sean O'Driscol - would have probably been a good shout but most on here would say he "wasnt a big enough name to manage us".
If MA gets the job then us fans have to give him the benefit of the doubt and get fully behind him - we need him here for the medium/longterm - 5 managers in 5 months is bordering on the ridiculous !
formerover
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6:08pm Thu 10 Jan 13
Angry From Accrington
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6:10pm Thu 10 Jan 13
Besides being completely unproven at this level, Appleton looks like across between an ork and a heavilly inbred dingle.
say something positive
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6:11pm Thu 10 Jan 13
sonny wrote:agree
I think he could be a very good appointment as long as he gets 100% backing and support from the board &owners and any board member that isnt genuinely 100% behind should be removed from the club immediately(coughcou
gh!Shebby!).
And BRAG/Glen Mullan can stuff there nasty little pro-shebby propaganda statement up there botbots, as they do only represent anybody but themselves and there master Shebby.
1952 rover
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6:13pm Thu 10 Jan 13
RoversSwiss
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6:17pm Thu 10 Jan 13
BRAG OUT
real betis hotpot
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6:24pm Thu 10 Jan 13
alfa111
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6:25pm Thu 10 Jan 13
greenscreener wrote:Spot on, sing will try his best to make out he has no part in this latest comedy of errors but im sure he will have left his finger prints some ware on it there is no split in the club its all being staged managed to keep presure off venkys and now off shebby the clown singh.Appleton was unhappy about the lack of funds at Blackpool that he was promised in this transfer window, i take it he wont take the job at BRFC either if there is no transfer funds available, after all he will only get a six month contract and will only have it extended if rovers gain promotion? according to venkys and singh that is.
god Im bored wrote:I think you will find Shebby saying "you know he wasn't my choice, you know"
So much for searching out an experienced manager?.
The only thing he is experienced in is dealing with shambolic owners at Portsmouth & not being able to deal with the Oystons at Blackpool.
Well done Shebby, pat yourself on the back, you have found a famous, well respected experienced manager.
Fool!!
roverstilidie85
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6:26pm Thu 10 Jan 13
Ronaldpetercooper
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6:26pm Thu 10 Jan 13
J.C - Rishton wrote:I am with you on this JC. I have followed hi career since he left Man U and have always been impressed. He is a seious man, yes, but we need a serious hand to sort us out. He will also have a good knowledge of the lower leagues and faces.
I don't know why Rovers are so negative about him, personally I think its a reasonably good appointment. 1 - He's worked under RH and R DiM - two great people to learn from. 2 - He's worked at Pompy so he's just about the most experienced young manager who's worked at a club that is imploding. 3 - He did a good job at Pompey whilst having to sell ALL of his players (don't just look at his win/lose ratio - thats too simplistic - look how Pompys results have now totally collapsed since he has left. 4 - His results at Blackpool havnt been great but 12 games is too low a number to statistically see how he is (turn 2 of them draws into wins and he'd have done quite well - thats why 12 is too low a number to judge him on). 5 - Rovers are losing £2m per month, we need a manager who can get reasonably good results whilst continually losing his best and most experienced players - THIS IS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN at BRFC over the next 12 months - get used to it - he has experience at handling this type of situation at Pompy. 6 - To all those (majority) who are moaning about his appointment - who else would take the job ? Pep G ? - I know he said he was ready to resume work but I don't think he had East Lancs in mind ! Mark Hughes - Has given no indication about wanting the job. Would MH really put up with the Venkys and SS ? Billy Davies - Personally I thought he would be great but most on here didnt want him either. Phil Brown - Have they really let this guy out on day release from the loony bin ? Peter Taylor - Please God no ! OGS - Why would he work for the "Loones from Pune" when he can have his pick of jobs ? Karl Robinson - Most Rovers fans don't want him because of his "lack of experience". Sean O'Driscol - would have probably been a good shout but most on here would say he "wasnt a big enough name to manage us". If MA gets the job then us fans have to give him the benefit of the doubt and get fully behind him - we need him here for the medium/longterm - 5 managers in 5 months is bordering on the ridiculous !
Let us give the guy a chance, if he comes, he could just be a good decision for a change
juanbbien
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6:28pm Thu 10 Jan 13
Colne lads back
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6:28pm Thu 10 Jan 13
Their personalities
A Rover 45 years and over
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6:30pm Thu 10 Jan 13
stefjam
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6:32pm Thu 10 Jan 13
juanbbien
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6:34pm Thu 10 Jan 13
PersianRover
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6:34pm Thu 10 Jan 13
GB IN!
GB IN!
GB IN!
French Rover
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6:35pm Thu 10 Jan 13
RoversSwiss wrote:Well said Swiss.....Appleton is a sound football guy who has worked under Ferguson and Moyes until he had a crippling injury and had to retire from playing.
There isn't an outstanding candidate for the job, Appleton will be as good an appointment as any other. Only time will tell if he can be successful. Most important thing is that he is given a fair chance to succeed.
BRAG OUT
He then worked under Di Matteo at WBA and was caretaker until Hodgson came in after di matteo left.
Hodgson wanted to keep Appleton at West Brom but he wanted to be his own man and took on the massive job at Pompey which he won in-front of the likes of Sean O'Driscoll and Steve Coppel.
He looks tough and probably will be tough - but fair - and he doesn't like being lied to - which is why he walked at Blackpool. He has had to work under several changes of owners at Fratton Park (including the Russian Mafia) so I am sure he can cope with anything that these clowns throw at him.
wilpshireover
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6:36pm Thu 10 Jan 13
RoversSwiss wrote:Agree, give the guy a break - but remember he has not actually accepted the job yet!
There isn't an outstanding candidate for the job, Appleton will be as good an appointment as any other. Only time will tell if he can be successful. Most important thing is that he is given a fair chance to succeed.
BRAG OUT
1riversider
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6:37pm Thu 10 Jan 13
What gets me is the c**p that has come out of the Three Stooges since Berg was sacked. Can anyone make any sense of the following:-
1 - we are now looking for an experienced manager. We are in no hurry.
2 - we will have a manager by the end of New Years Day.
3 - Bowyer has the job until end of January.
4 - we now want Appleton.
All this in 3 weeks! P*ss up and brewery come to mind!
SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB NOW
garyintandem
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6:38pm Thu 10 Jan 13
Is this man really going to take us and keep us in the Premier League?
Does he have a winning track record?
What has he got that Gary Bowyer hasn't got??
Also, what is it with the miserable looking buggers with no hair?
Not inspired at all.
Karl Robinson would have been much better and he would have formed a great team with GB.
COYB
adcr
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6:38pm Thu 10 Jan 13
pstannard4
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6:38pm Thu 10 Jan 13
French Rover
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6:39pm Thu 10 Jan 13
From Blackpool Gazette tonight:
BLACKPOOL have given Michael Appleton permission to talk to Blackburn over their vacant manager’s job.
The 37-year-old has only spent two months in the Bloomfield Road hotseat after taking over from Ian Holloway in November.
Rovers made an official approach for Appleton last night, which was inititally turned down by Pool chairman Karl Oyston.
The manager didn’t take training on Thursday morning, and Rovers chief Derek Shaw confirmed the two clubs were talking over a compensation package this afternoon.
And Blackpool confirmed a deal had been done on Thursday evening, with Appleton travelling to east Lancashire to talk to Rovers about a deal.
Appleton has been away from Bloomfield Road this week – his first break since taking over from Ian Holloway on November 7. Pool’s players were given Monday and yesterday off after a tough festive period. The manager was also absent on Tuesday, though that day off was planned in advance.
It’s a familiar story for Seasiders fans, who were faced with similar speculation about previous boss Holloway before his exit for Crystal Palace.
Appleton is yet to speak to Blackburn, though it remains to be seen whether the chance to move to a club with a much bigger budget will tempt the 37-year-old.
The manager stated last week that he wanted “four or five” new signings ahead of this Saturday’s game at Charlton. But despite having a bid accepted for Barnsley right-back Scott Wiseman, Pool could not agree personal terms and are yet to have any joy in the January transfer market.
The Gazette understands the relationship between manager and chairman is fine, though there is no doubt that Appleton’s frustrations over the lack of transfer activity are growing.
Shaw is believed to be behind Rovers’ interest in Appleton, he knows the Pool boss from their time at Preston North End and thinks he’d be an ideal candidate to take the club forward.
He is on a rolling contract similar to what previous boss Holloway was signed to and Rovers would need to pay one year’s salary to Blackpool as compensation.
Should either party want to push through a move today, it would take an improved offer by Rovers, or Appleton to quit his job.
Rovers won three out of three under caretaker boss Gary Bowyer since Henning Berg was sacked two weeks ago.
Appleton was not at Pool’s Squires Gate training ground this morning, assistant Steve Thompson took training.
He has won two and lost two of 12 games since taking the reins at Bloomfield Road. His most recent victory was a 2-0 home triumph over Blackburn on December 15.
That result was Rovers’ fourth defeat in five matches and a 2-0 reverse in their next outing at Middlesbrough cost Berg his job after 10 games at the helm.
Heidenreicher
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6:39pm Thu 10 Jan 13
i8dingles
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6:40pm Thu 10 Jan 13
blackburnsoutherner
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6:40pm Thu 10 Jan 13
HHHH wrote:I can see it now
blackburnsoutherner wrote:I've yet to see a picture of Appleton with anything other than a scowl on his face. He looks fcking nails.
Only good thing about him is he wont take no crap from ss!!!!!!!!
Ss...... excuse me mr appleton?
Ma.......what do u fnuking what!!!!!!!!!
Ss......erm I was looking at the team sheet and ive got some ideas......
Ma.....FNUK OFF!!!!!!!!!!
"door closing"
forever_rovers
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6:44pm Thu 10 Jan 13
greenscreener wrote:I think it is Orc but did make me laugh.
I thought Keans picture was bad, this one looks like an Ork !
Top remark!
jim 2012
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6:45pm Thu 10 Jan 13
real betis hotpot wrote:betty's hot pot learn to spell you,r name right mate
Appleton out
blueblooded
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6:45pm Thu 10 Jan 13
greenscreener wrote:That's because it actually isn't anything to do with him.
god Im bored wrote:I think you will find Shebby saying "you know he wasn't my choice, you know"
So much for searching out an experienced manager?.
The only thing he is experienced in is dealing with shambolic owners at Portsmouth & not being able to deal with the Oystons at Blackpool.
Well done Shebby, pat yourself on the back, you have found a famous, well respected experienced manager.
Fool!!
Our global advisor in charge of all decisions of hiring and firing isn't actually in charge at the moment. I guess Venky's getting a bit peeved of his social skills, S & A are trying to gain a majority against him.
That said, as others have stated its not his fault theirs a circus in town and if we do get him, he deserves a chance.
poo banger
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6:46pm Thu 10 Jan 13
appleton has been appointed, what a joke
Stone Island:
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6:48pm Thu 10 Jan 13
A Rover 45 years and over wrote:Hear hear!
Blackpool will be laughing all the way to the bank. Loosing a not too great manager and being paid for it again. Really dissapointed with Shaw and Co he should know better than this. It's as if they are following the owners brief with the regard to the type of manager they want. I am really FED UP that GARY BOWYER has not been given the chance. Best results and play for 2 years and now we have got an unproved guy with a poor results record. I am afraid that the whole regime down at Blackburn in my opinion are NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE.
ghost of sceptic
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6:49pm Thu 10 Jan 13
god Im bored wrote:Nothing to do with shebby, this is a shaw and agnew appointment.
So much for searching out an experienced manager?.
The only thing he is experienced in is dealing with shambolic owners at Portsmouth & not being able to deal with the Oystons at Blackpool.
Well done Shebby, pat yourself on the back, you have found a famous, well respected experienced manager.
Fool!!
blueblooded
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6:50pm Thu 10 Jan 13
French Rover wrote:He wants 4-5 signings, hes not going to get any here either despite the "big budget".
One years salary as compensation
From Blackpool Gazette tonight:
BLACKPOOL have given Michael Appleton permission to talk to Blackburn over their vacant manager’s job.
The 37-year-old has only spent two months in the Bloomfield Road hotseat after taking over from Ian Holloway in November.
Rovers made an official approach for Appleton last night, which was inititally turned down by Pool chairman Karl Oyston.
The manager didn’t take training on Thursday morning, and Rovers chief Derek Shaw confirmed the two clubs were talking over a compensation package this afternoon.
And Blackpool confirmed a deal had been done on Thursday evening, with Appleton travelling to east Lancashire to talk to Rovers about a deal.
Appleton has been away from Bloomfield Road this week – his first break since taking over from Ian Holloway on November 7. Pool’s players were given Monday and yesterday off after a tough festive period. The manager was also absent on Tuesday, though that day off was planned in advance.
It’s a familiar story for Seasiders fans, who were faced with similar speculation about previous boss Holloway before his exit for Crystal Palace.
Appleton is yet to speak to Blackburn, though it remains to be seen whether the chance to move to a club with a much bigger budget will tempt the 37-year-old.
The manager stated last week that he wanted “four or five” new signings ahead of this Saturday’s game at Charlton. But despite having a bid accepted for Barnsley right-back Scott Wiseman, Pool could not agree personal terms and are yet to have any joy in the January transfer market.
The Gazette understands the relationship between manager and chairman is fine, though there is no doubt that Appleton’s frustrations over the lack of transfer activity are growing.
Shaw is believed to be behind Rovers’ interest in Appleton, he knows the Pool boss from their time at Preston North End and thinks he’d be an ideal candidate to take the club forward.
He is on a rolling contract similar to what previous boss Holloway was signed to and Rovers would need to pay one year’s salary to Blackpool as compensation.
Should either party want to push through a move today, it would take an improved offer by Rovers, or Appleton to quit his job.
Rovers won three out of three under caretaker boss Gary Bowyer since Henning Berg was sacked two weeks ago.
Appleton was not at Pool’s Squires Gate training ground this morning, assistant Steve Thompson took training.
He has won two and lost two of 12 games since taking the reins at Bloomfield Road. His most recent victory was a 2-0 home triumph over Blackburn on December 15.
That result was Rovers’ fourth defeat in five matches and a 2-0 reverse in their next outing at Middlesbrough cost Berg his job after 10 games at the helm.
Stay where you are Mr Appleton, only the fans are greener on this side, with sickness, not the grass.
formerover
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6:52pm Thu 10 Jan 13
lancs1985
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6:53pm Thu 10 Jan 13
IM GOING FORFULREFUND IN MY SEASON TICKETS THEY CAN STICK UM UPMTHERE ARSE THIS MANAGER HAS WORSE RECORD THAN THE CORRUPT SCOTISH ONE WHO LEFT!!!
Thick as hell shaw
Time for you n Agnew n shebby to pack up n go back to ******g Preston n destroy them
lancs1985
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6:53pm Thu 10 Jan 13
jim 2012
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6:53pm Thu 10 Jan 13
pstannard4 wrote:lets just give the man a chance
Micheal Appleton I trust
juanbbien
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6:54pm Thu 10 Jan 13
real betis hotpot
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6:56pm Thu 10 Jan 13
re and hairless manager to wear a wig and get Mark Hughes or some other capable and hair blessed manager to shave their heads and put in an application for the job and then Desi/Venkies will be well interested in them.
greenscreener
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6:58pm Thu 10 Jan 13
1riversider wrote:You forgot shebbys classic -" there are people available now who were not avaialble when we hired Berg."
If he gets the job, then it's up to all of us to give him our full support - no ifs, no buts. The one thing in his favour is that he has worked at a club in crisis before, so Rovers should be a doddle for him.
What gets me is the c**p that has come out of the Three Stooges since Berg was sacked. Can anyone make any sense of the following:-
1 - we are now looking for an experienced manager. We are in no hurry.
2 - we will have a manager by the end of New Years Day.
3 - Bowyer has the job until end of January.
4 - we now want Appleton.
All this in 3 weeks! P*ss up and brewery come to mind!
SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB NOW
Don't think that was Appleton was it ?
Angry From Accrington
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6:58pm Thu 10 Jan 13
jim 2012 wrote:no. let's not
pstannard4 wrote:lets just give the man a chance
Micheal Appleton I trust
McRover
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6:58pm Thu 10 Jan 13
J.C - Rishton wrote:Agnew and Shaw travel to India and are picked up at the airport by a certain agent (JA) and have meeting with Venkys. Both these two are associated with Kentaro/SEM as were part of team Kean. Last weekend MA parted company with his management company and signed on with Kentaro. You can see where this is going can't you ,,,,,,,,,
I don't know why Rovers are so negative about him, personally I think its a reasonably good appointment.
1 - He's worked under RH and R DiM - two great people to learn from.
2 - He's worked at Pompy so he's just about the most experienced young manager who's worked at a club that is imploding.
3 - He did a good job at Pompey whilst having to sell ALL of his players (don't just look at his win/lose ratio - thats too simplistic - look how Pompys results have now totally collapsed since he has left.
4 - His results at Blackpool havnt been great but 12 games is too low a number to statistically see how he is (turn 2 of them draws into wins and he'd have done quite well - thats why 12 is too low a number to judge him on).
5 - Rovers are losing £2m per month, we need a manager who can get reasonably good results whilst continually losing his best and most experienced players - THIS IS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN at BRFC over the next 12 months - get used to it - he has experience at handling this type of situation at Pompy.
6 - To all those (majority) who are moaning about his appointment - who else would take the job ?
Pep G ? - I know he said he was ready to resume work but I don't think he had East Lancs in mind !
Mark Hughes - Has given no indication about wanting the job. Would MH really put up with the Venkys and SS ?
Billy Davies - Personally I thought he would be great but most on here didnt want him either.
Phil Brown - Have they really let this guy out on day release from the loony bin ?
Peter Taylor - Please God no !
OGS - Why would he work for the "Loones from Pune" when he can have his pick of jobs ?
Karl Robinson - Most Rovers fans don't want him because of his "lack of experience".
Sean O'Driscol - would have probably been a good shout but most on here would say he "wasnt a big enough name to manage us".
If MA gets the job then us fans have to give him the benefit of the doubt and get fully behind him - we need him here for the medium/longterm - 5 managers in 5 months is bordering on the ridiculous !
EwoodShewouldnt
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7:02pm Thu 10 Jan 13
West Bromwich Albion (caretaker) Win% 00.00
Portsmoth 25.49
Blackpool 18.18
Having said that...lets get behind he guy and give him a chance
Who's next? think of anymore bald headed failures?
Is Eckersley playing?
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7:03pm Thu 10 Jan 13
BRFC0808
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7:04pm Thu 10 Jan 13
LT's Credibility worse than Steve Kean and Venkys Combined!!!!
McRover
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7:06pm Thu 10 Jan 13
garyintandem wrote:He's not Kentaro.
We truly have loonies in charge of the asylum.
Is this man really going to take us and keep us in the Premier League?
Does he have a winning track record?
What has he got that Gary Bowyer hasn't got??
Also, what is it with the miserable looking buggers with no hair?
Not inspired at all.
Karl Robinson would have been much better and he would have formed a great team with GB.
COYB
BeardwoodB
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7:08pm Thu 10 Jan 13
Region of £2M
Bill Carson
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7:09pm Thu 10 Jan 13
Garner said, "Is Michael Appleton the right man for the job? I don't know. But I have been on the internet today and I see he has a worse win percentage than Steve Kean and he is not the experienced name the fans want so he is on a hiding to nothing from the start."
Angry From Accrington
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7:09pm Thu 10 Jan 13
goodbye everybody!
Fyrover
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7:10pm Thu 10 Jan 13
They didn't play for HB but then win three on the bounce for GB ( they basically managed themselfs)Appleton will not take any BS from them or SS
Baldly goes
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7:11pm Thu 10 Jan 13
greenscreener wrote:What have looks got to do with it? Are you some kind of model?
I thought Keans picture was bad, this one looks like an Ork !
On a separate issue, if he arrives, he deserves a chance.
Stone Island:
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7:13pm Thu 10 Jan 13
BeardwoodB wrote:£2M Compo? RUBBISH!
Compensation agreed, look on SSN now!!!!
Region of £2M
RoversMCMLXXV
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7:13pm Thu 10 Jan 13
Good Luck
RTID
greenscreener
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7:15pm Thu 10 Jan 13
real betis hotpot wrote:You probably didn't realise it but there is some truth in your theory.
I think it is clear now that Anurad Desi or whatever her name is has a thing for balding men or maybe Venkies just like to have a manager who resembles an egg.The only solution now is to pay Appleton and every other inexperienced/medioc
re and hairless manager to wear a wig and get Mark Hughes or some other capable and hair blessed manager to shave their heads and put in an application for the job and then Desi/Venkies will be well interested in them.
Looking like an egg is considered to be a sign of good fortune in India. When a male child is born they perform a ceremony called Humpeti Dumpeti to bless the child with future riches. It is believed that a child thus blessed will live in a state of increasing delusion and confusion until at some time in the future, known as "The Sackin", they reach a state of total bliss, known as "Com Pin Satid".
Fyrover
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7:15pm Thu 10 Jan 13
Stone Island: wrote:Why would it be £2m thats 4 years wages
BeardwoodB wrote:£2M Compo? RUBBISH!
Compensation agreed, look on SSN now!!!!
Region of £2M
BeardwoodB
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7:16pm Thu 10 Jan 13
J.C - Rishton wrote:You've contradicted yourself a few times there son.
I don't know why Rovers are so negative about him, personally I think its a reasonably good appointment.
1 - He's worked under RH and R DiM - two great people to learn from.
2 - He's worked at Pompy so he's just about the most experienced young manager who's worked at a club that is imploding.
3 - He did a good job at Pompey whilst having to sell ALL of his players (don't just look at his win/lose ratio - thats too simplistic - look how Pompys results have now totally collapsed since he has left.
4 - His results at Blackpool havnt been great but 12 games is too low a number to statistically see how he is (turn 2 of them draws into wins and he'd have done quite well - thats why 12 is too low a number to judge him on).
5 - Rovers are losing £2m per month, we need a manager who can get reasonably good results whilst continually losing his best and most experienced players - THIS IS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN at BRFC over the next 12 months - get used to it - he has experience at handling this type of situation at Pompy.
6 - To all those (majority) who are moaning about his appointment - who else would take the job ?
Pep G ? - I know he said he was ready to resume work but I don't think he had East Lancs in mind !
Mark Hughes - Has given no indication about wanting the job. Would MH really put up with the Venkys and SS ?
Billy Davies - Personally I thought he would be great but most on here didnt want him either.
Phil Brown - Have they really let this guy out on day release from the loony bin ?
Peter Taylor - Please God no !
OGS - Why would he work for the "Loones from Pune" when he can have his pick of jobs ?
Karl Robinson - Most Rovers fans don't want him because of his "lack of experience".
Sean O'Driscol - would have probably been a good shout but most on here would say he "wasnt a big enough name to manage us".
If MA gets the job then us fans have to give him the benefit of the doubt and get fully behind him - we need him here for the medium/longterm - 5 managers in 5 months is bordering on the ridiculous !
He took Pompey down, all be it with them having all the financial problems BUT they still got relegated.
He's worked under good managers yes but we need a GOOD experienced manager not a great coach.
Steve Kean was a great coach but awful manager.
buzzinfly
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7:16pm Thu 10 Jan 13
unclejacklegend
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7:18pm Thu 10 Jan 13
8 Ball Deluxe
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7:19pm Thu 10 Jan 13
French Rover wrote:All sounds good to me, I hope he can find a place for Bowyer to be his No2.
RoversSwiss wrote:Well said Swiss.....Appleton is a sound football guy who has worked under Ferguson and Moyes until he had a crippling injury and had to retire from playing.
There isn't an outstanding candidate for the job, Appleton will be as good an appointment as any other. Only time will tell if he can be successful. Most important thing is that he is given a fair chance to succeed.
BRAG OUT
He then worked under Di Matteo at WBA and was caretaker until Hodgson came in after di matteo left.
Hodgson wanted to keep Appleton at West Brom but he wanted to be his own man and took on the massive job at Pompey which he won in-front of the likes of Sean O'Driscoll and Steve Coppel.
He looks tough and probably will be tough - but fair - and he doesn't like being lied to - which is why he walked at Blackpool. He has had to work under several changes of owners at Fratton Park (including the Russian Mafia) so I am sure he can cope with anything that these clowns throw at him.
This may be the start of a good team.
OUT WITH BRAG THE SHAGGY SHYSTERS
lablue
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7:20pm Thu 10 Jan 13
Harwoodstblue
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7:24pm Thu 10 Jan 13
sonny wrote:" I think he could be a very good appointment as long as he gets 100% backing and support from the board &owners "
I think he could be a very good appointment as long as he gets 100% backing and support from the board &owners and any board member that isnt genuinely 100% behind should be removed from the club immediately(coughcou
gh!Shebby!).
And BRAG/Glen Mullan can stuff there nasty little pro-shebby propaganda statement up there botbots, as they do only represent anybody but themselves and there master Shebby.
Absolutely no chance !!!
George.White.Bread
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7:25pm Thu 10 Jan 13
i8dingles wrote:Ha ha ha, nothing else to throw but your very predictable tiresome 34 years since you beat us blah blah blah. I'd rather have been second fiddle to you horse loving tramps for 34 years Than have the whole football world laughing in our faces.
34 years you 6 fingered Yorkshire filth, another bit of madness today in the world of our chicken pluckers, but you still can't beat us, live in our shadow, and can't comment on your own stories....your trying to read this, point proven dirty inbred
Ha ha ha ha, yes the laughter just keeps on flowing down at the Ewood and Bucket comedy club, and will no doubt continue to do so!
Harwoodstblue
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7:27pm Thu 10 Jan 13
J.C - Rishton wrote:Bordering on the ridiculous..........
I don't know why Rovers are so negative about him, personally I think its a reasonably good appointment.
1 - He's worked under RH and R DiM - two great people to learn from.
2 - He's worked at Pompy so he's just about the most experienced young manager who's worked at a club that is imploding.
3 - He did a good job at Pompey whilst having to sell ALL of his players (don't just look at his win/lose ratio - thats too simplistic - look how Pompys results have now totally collapsed since he has left.
4 - His results at Blackpool havnt been great but 12 games is too low a number to statistically see how he is (turn 2 of them draws into wins and he'd have done quite well - thats why 12 is too low a number to judge him on).
5 - Rovers are losing £2m per month, we need a manager who can get reasonably good results whilst continually losing his best and most experienced players - THIS IS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN at BRFC over the next 12 months - get used to it - he has experience at handling this type of situation at Pompy.
6 - To all those (majority) who are moaning about his appointment - who else would take the job ?
Pep G ? - I know he said he was ready to resume work but I don't think he had East Lancs in mind !
Mark Hughes - Has given no indication about wanting the job. Would MH really put up with the Venkys and SS ?
Billy Davies - Personally I thought he would be great but most on here didnt want him either.
Phil Brown - Have they really let this guy out on day release from the loony bin ?
Peter Taylor - Please God no !
OGS - Why would he work for the "Loones from Pune" when he can have his pick of jobs ?
Karl Robinson - Most Rovers fans don't want him because of his "lack of experience".
Sean O'Driscol - would have probably been a good shout but most on here would say he "wasnt a big enough name to manage us".
If MA gets the job then us fans have to give him the benefit of the doubt and get fully behind him - we need him here for the medium/longterm - 5 managers in 5 months is bordering on the ridiculous !
..
It IS bloody ridiculous.
8 Ball Deluxe
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7:28pm Thu 10 Jan 13
BeardwoodB wrote:Hello the bearded one, as far as I'm aware, the only people who said Kean was a good coach were SEM Kentaro, the SEM Kentaro Sky Mafia, charlie nichlos, Matt le tiss, etc etc Jerome Anderson and Steve Kean himself. I have yet to hear a reputable manager, ie moyes, fergie, rafa, mourinho etc say that Steve Kean is a good coach. Please post the link to a manager with credibility who stated this.
J.C - Rishton wrote:You've contradicted yourself a few times there son.
I don't know why Rovers are so negative about him, personally I think its a reasonably good appointment.
1 - He's worked under RH and R DiM - two great people to learn from.
2 - He's worked at Pompy so he's just about the most experienced young manager who's worked at a club that is imploding.
3 - He did a good job at Pompey whilst having to sell ALL of his players (don't just look at his win/lose ratio - thats too simplistic - look how Pompys results have now totally collapsed since he has left.
4 - His results at Blackpool havnt been great but 12 games is too low a number to statistically see how he is (turn 2 of them draws into wins and he'd have done quite well - thats why 12 is too low a number to judge him on).
5 - Rovers are losing £2m per month, we need a manager who can get reasonably good results whilst continually losing his best and most experienced players - THIS IS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN at BRFC over the next 12 months - get used to it - he has experience at handling this type of situation at Pompy.
6 - To all those (majority) who are moaning about his appointment - who else would take the job ?
Pep G ? - I know he said he was ready to resume work but I don't think he had East Lancs in mind !
Mark Hughes - Has given no indication about wanting the job. Would MH really put up with the Venkys and SS ?
Billy Davies - Personally I thought he would be great but most on here didnt want him either.
Phil Brown - Have they really let this guy out on day release from the loony bin ?
Peter Taylor - Please God no !
OGS - Why would he work for the "Loones from Pune" when he can have his pick of jobs ?
Karl Robinson - Most Rovers fans don't want him because of his "lack of experience".
Sean O'Driscol - would have probably been a good shout but most on here would say he "wasnt a big enough name to manage us".
If MA gets the job then us fans have to give him the benefit of the doubt and get fully behind him - we need him here for the medium/longterm - 5 managers in 5 months is bordering on the ridiculous !
He took Pompey down, all be it with them having all the financial problems BUT they still got relegated.
He's worked under good managers yes but we need a GOOD experienced manager not a great coach.
Steve Kean was a great coach but awful manager.
buzzinfly
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7:31pm Thu 10 Jan 13
sallycinamon wrote:To be fair that would be justified. I dont think she knows a lot about football or is even interested in it, but I like your thinking. Outside the box.
Time to stop finding fault. If they appointed fergie the fans would find a reason to moan.
8 Ball Deluxe
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7:31pm Thu 10 Jan 13
George.White.Bread wrote:Coming from the guy whose club are selling half the first team to buy that sh1thole of a ground which you don't even own. BFC a team with no ground that only exists on paper. Not only C Austin gone in jan but the rest to follow so that you can buy a Turd
i8dingles wrote:Ha ha ha, nothing else to throw but your very predictable tiresome 34 years since you beat us blah blah blah. I'd rather have been second fiddle to you horse loving tramps for 34 years Than have the whole football world laughing in our faces.
34 years you 6 fingered Yorkshire filth, another bit of madness today in the world of our chicken pluckers, but you still can't beat us, live in our shadow, and can't comment on your own stories....your trying to read this, point proven dirty inbred
Ha ha ha ha, yes the laughter just keeps on flowing down at the Ewood and Bucket comedy club, and will no doubt continue to do so!
Hahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahaha
uo and at 'em
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7:32pm Thu 10 Jan 13
what an absolute circus.
p.s. Venky's, given you're employing lost of people with no experience but then paying them compensation when you realise they didn't have enough experience, can i have a job?
moh
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7:32pm Thu 10 Jan 13
god Im bored wrote:its Shaw and Agnews choice, according to earlier reports Shebby was in dark about approach to Appleton.
So much for searching out an experienced manager?.
The only thing he is experienced in is dealing with shambolic owners at Portsmouth & not being able to deal with the Oystons at Blackpool.
Well done Shebby, pat yourself on the back, you have found a famous, well respected experienced manager.
Fool!!
Harwoodstblue
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7:34pm Thu 10 Jan 13
French Rover wrote:" He looks tough and probably will be tough - but fair - and he doesn't like being lied to.
RoversSwiss wrote:Well said Swiss.....Appleton is a sound football guy who has worked under Ferguson and Moyes until he had a crippling injury and had to retire from playing.
There isn't an outstanding candidate for the job, Appleton will be as good an appointment as any other. Only time will tell if he can be successful. Most important thing is that he is given a fair chance to succeed.
BRAG OUT
He then worked under Di Matteo at WBA and was caretaker until Hodgson came in after di matteo left.
Hodgson wanted to keep Appleton at West Brom but he wanted to be his own man and took on the massive job at Pompey which he won in-front of the likes of Sean O'Driscoll and Steve Coppel.
He looks tough and probably will be tough - but fair - and he doesn't like being lied to - which is why he walked at Blackpool. He has had to work under several changes of owners at Fratton Park (including the Russian Mafia) so I am sure he can cope with anything that these clowns throw at him.
Doesn't like being lied to......Well I think he is coming to wrong club then
wilpshireover
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7:36pm Thu 10 Jan 13
Stone Island:
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7:38pm Thu 10 Jan 13
wilpshireover wrote:Who's Colin Appleton?
Sky are reporting that Colin Appleton starts new job tommorow! Is this true?
Mr John
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7:41pm Thu 10 Jan 13
there is hope yet
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7:42pm Thu 10 Jan 13
J.C - Rishton wrote:F u c k I n g spot on mate. 100% agree with everything you said.
I don't know why Rovers are so negative about him, personally I think its a reasonably good appointment.
1 - He's worked under RH and R DiM - two great people to learn from.
2 - He's worked at Pompy so he's just about the most experienced young manager who's worked at a club that is imploding.
3 - He did a good job at Pompey whilst having to sell ALL of his players (don't just look at his win/lose ratio - thats too simplistic - look how Pompys results have now totally collapsed since he has left.
4 - His results at Blackpool havnt been great but 12 games is too low a number to statistically see how he is (turn 2 of them draws into wins and he'd have done quite well - thats why 12 is too low a number to judge him on).
5 - Rovers are losing £2m per month, we need a manager who can get reasonably good results whilst continually losing his best and most experienced players - THIS IS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN at BRFC over the next 12 months - get used to it - he has experience at handling this type of situation at Pompy.
6 - To all those (majority) who are moaning about his appointment - who else would take the job ?
Pep G ? - I know he said he was ready to resume work but I don't think he had East Lancs in mind !
Mark Hughes - Has given no indication about wanting the job. Would MH really put up with the Venkys and SS ?
Billy Davies - Personally I thought he would be great but most on here didnt want him either.
Phil Brown - Have they really let this guy out on day release from the loony bin ?
Peter Taylor - Please God no !
OGS - Why would he work for the "Loones from Pune" when he can have his pick of jobs ?
Karl Robinson - Most Rovers fans don't want him because of his "lack of experience".
Sean O'Driscol - would have probably been a good shout but most on here would say he "wasnt a big enough name to manage us".
If MA gets the job then us fans have to give him the benefit of the doubt and get fully behind him - we need him here for the medium/longterm - 5 managers in 5 months is bordering on the ridiculous !
uo and at 'em
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7:48pm Thu 10 Jan 13
wilpshireover
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7:49pm Thu 10 Jan 13
wilpshireover
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7:49pm Thu 10 Jan 13
moh
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7:51pm Thu 10 Jan 13
formerover wrote:looks like the club wants cheap options then pay compensation when it does'nt work out. In the long run it costs more money. Like Mr Kean, Shaw and Agnew went to India and convinced gullible Mrs Desai with their vision. Hope we dont go the same way as preston.
We have been giving managers a chance for two years and look where that has got us. I dont care who he has played for look who Berg played under and what he won as a player, it means nothing, just ask Roy Kean. Absolute joke of an appointment. Experience is key in this league,Christ he only won two in charge of Blackpool, is it me or am I missing something.
moh
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7:51pm Thu 10 Jan 13
formerover wrote:looks like the club wants cheap options then pay compensation when it does'nt work out. In the long run it costs more money. Like Mr Kean, Shaw and Agnew went to India and convinced gullible Mrs Desai with their vision. Hope we dont go the same way as preston.
We have been giving managers a chance for two years and look where that has got us. I dont care who he has played for look who Berg played under and what he won as a player, it means nothing, just ask Roy Kean. Absolute joke of an appointment. Experience is key in this league,Christ he only won two in charge of Blackpool, is it me or am I missing something.
wilpshireover
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7:51pm Thu 10 Jan 13
Harwoodstblue
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7:53pm Thu 10 Jan 13
uo and at 'em wrote:I tell you...Venkys are cheapskates and will spend fcuk all.
Chris Samba has an interview in the Guardian. nice touch from a man who clearly fought for us on and off the pitch. Talks how the players all fought for Sam A and even that SK wasn't given the funding to sign more players to fulfil the free-flowing football. A gentleman indeed and not a bad word to say about the racism he experienced.
buzzinfly
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8:00pm Thu 10 Jan 13
noddy57
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8:00pm Thu 10 Jan 13
wilpshireover
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8:03pm Thu 10 Jan 13
If he is such a person, a combination of him and Gary Bowyer may be a good team.
dansker
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8:03pm Thu 10 Jan 13
greenscreener
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8:14pm Thu 10 Jan 13
wilpshireover wrote:Colin was a legend at Leicester City but he's well into his 70s now.
Sorry, a senior moment! Getting a bit tired, meant Michael Appleton of course
Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised by anything that happens at Ewood any more.
lablue
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8:16pm Thu 10 Jan 13
Stone Island:
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8:22pm Thu 10 Jan 13
wilpshireover wrote:He's bringing his own coach.
Upon reflection, if Michael Appleton is such a strong character, perhaps that is just what we need. With any luck he will tell the Singh his fortune and also spell out a few home truths to some other people..Someone needs to give the place a **** good shake up.
If he is such a person, a combination of him and Gary Bowyer may be a good team.
noddymcleod
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8:23pm Thu 10 Jan 13
Does this mean that Appleton was desperate to get out of Pompey (and who can blame him, he'd done a tough shift) and didn't really bother asking questions about the situation at 'Pool ? Not a good omen.
But twelve games later, he's seen the light and things are so dire at 'Pool that moving to the most dysfunctional and risible club in England is an attractive offer ?
Surely he cannot believe what I anticipate will be the PR statements tomorrow that he can turn things round, new chapter, get this once great club back it belongs etc ?
I reckon he's here for his expertise in preventing absolute mayhem on the field in a club heading for ruin.
Perhaps after 12 games he'll work out that Brum are in a worse position but could make a better offer and he'll move on there.
The club is now run by people who are eager to move on.
passingfootball
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8:26pm Thu 10 Jan 13
passingfootball
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8:28pm Thu 10 Jan 13
McRover
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8:28pm Thu 10 Jan 13
Q1 - Is it true that you broke away from your agent last weekend and signed with JA's SEM/Kentaro ?
Q2 - Is it true that when you were off work last week for "familly reasons" that you were in fact in India meeting with Venkys ?
The soap opera continues .....
dutchyjohn
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8:29pm Thu 10 Jan 13
He has the same record as Hennng Berg ,both took over from managers and both could win only 1 game(Rovers handed Blackpool the other win ).
So much for an experience manager ,plenty experience in losing games.
Don't come with all that crap he was at a bankrupt club like Portsmouth and did a good job ,it was the players there who did it all he had no choice as he had no players to pick from .
Can't believe how people keep saying berg did not get enough time ,how much time did Boywer have to prepare for 3 wins out of 3 .Maybe it was a fluke but when was the last time Rovers had a 3 match fluke?
Boywer was promissed till the end of January to be in charge ,what a stab in the back for the guy ,at least they got a guy with now with no princeples
Look at the guys pathetic record ,Oyston be laughing all the way to the bank getting easy money.
All these so called fans asking to give the guy a chance ,what happenend to the so called experienced manager ,why can't they keep there word and wait ,i know if they wait till the they have no time to buy anyone but this guy will not do the business .
Time to pack in going down with these owners in charge and there so called assistants.
From a depressed ,stop going supporter
maltaman
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8:30pm Thu 10 Jan 13
upholland rover
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8:33pm Thu 10 Jan 13
J.C - Rishton
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8:40pm Thu 10 Jan 13
McRover wrote:Thats an interesting statement you just made.
J.C - Rishton wrote:Agnew and Shaw travel to India and are picked up at the airport by a certain agent (JA) and have meeting with Venkys. Both these two are associated with Kentaro/SEM as were part of team Kean. Last weekend MA parted company with his management company and signed on with Kentaro. You can see where this is going can't you ,,,,,,,,,
I don't know why Rovers are so negative about him, personally I think its a reasonably good appointment.
1 - He's worked under RH and R DiM - two great people to learn from.
2 - He's worked at Pompy so he's just about the most experienced young manager who's worked at a club that is imploding.
3 - He did a good job at Pompey whilst having to sell ALL of his players (don't just look at his win/lose ratio - thats too simplistic - look how Pompys results have now totally collapsed since he has left.
4 - His results at Blackpool havnt been great but 12 games is too low a number to statistically see how he is (turn 2 of them draws into wins and he'd have done quite well - thats why 12 is too low a number to judge him on).
5 - Rovers are losing £2m per month, we need a manager who can get reasonably good results whilst continually losing his best and most experienced players - THIS IS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN at BRFC over the next 12 months - get used to it - he has experience at handling this type of situation at Pompy.
6 - To all those (majority) who are moaning about his appointment - who else would take the job ?
Pep G ? - I know he said he was ready to resume work but I don't think he had East Lancs in mind !
Mark Hughes - Has given no indication about wanting the job. Would MH really put up with the Venkys and SS ?
Billy Davies - Personally I thought he would be great but most on here didnt want him either.
Phil Brown - Have they really let this guy out on day release from the loony bin ?
Peter Taylor - Please God no !
OGS - Why would he work for the "Loones from Pune" when he can have his pick of jobs ?
Karl Robinson - Most Rovers fans don't want him because of his "lack of experience".
Sean O'Driscol - would have probably been a good shout but most on here would say he "wasnt a big enough name to manage us".
If MA gets the job then us fans have to give him the benefit of the doubt and get fully behind him - we need him here for the medium/longterm - 5 managers in 5 months is bordering on the ridiculous !
I also believe that JA has a financial stake in this club but where is your proof that -
1 - PA and DS met with JA in India before going onto Venkys.
2 - MA last week sacked his own agent and signed on with JA.
padlebrfc
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8:42pm Thu 10 Jan 13
I think some people need a reality check. We are a mid table Championship side with no money in a mill town in the north of England. What we need is a grafter who wont take any sh!t from anybody. This is the fella.
Maybe the owners and the board are turning the corner, making better decisions. Lets hope thats the case because if most people got their way and Venky's walked away we would be finished. There would be no more BRFC. Lets get behind the manager and aid his success.
Welcome to our club Michael, I wish you all the best.
77'sss
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8:47pm Thu 10 Jan 13
shortsy
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8:47pm Thu 10 Jan 13
http://www1.skysport
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11688/8389166/Blackb
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boss-after-agreeing-
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-with-Blackpool
Good luck
bburnrover
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8:48pm Thu 10 Jan 13
skelbo
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8:57pm Thu 10 Jan 13
Harwoodstblue
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8:58pm Thu 10 Jan 13
upholland rover wrote:No good telling the few who post on here to get down to Ewood. It's the ten thousand stay aways who don't post on here who you should be talking to.
As good an appointment as we could expect. Far more experienced and street wise than Kean or the dreadful Berg. And how wonderful the silencing of Mr Singh. This just could be a turning point. Time for the stay always to put their money where their mouths are and get down to Ewood and SUPPORT the . Or we're they never really R overs fans at all just moaners!!!
McRover
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8:58pm Thu 10 Jan 13
J.C - Rishton wrote:I'm just telling you what I have been told by someone who works in profesional football who I believe. Whether you believe it or not is up to you pal.
McRover wrote:Thats an interesting statement you just made.
J.C - Rishton wrote:Agnew and Shaw travel to India and are picked up at the airport by a certain agent (JA) and have meeting with Venkys. Both these two are associated with Kentaro/SEM as were part of team Kean. Last weekend MA parted company with his management company and signed on with Kentaro. You can see where this is going can't you ,,,,,,,,,
I don't know why Rovers are so negative about him, personally I think its a reasonably good appointment.
1 - He's worked under RH and R DiM - two great people to learn from.
2 - He's worked at Pompy so he's just about the most experienced young manager who's worked at a club that is imploding.
3 - He did a good job at Pompey whilst having to sell ALL of his players (don't just look at his win/lose ratio - thats too simplistic - look how Pompys results have now totally collapsed since he has left.
4 - His results at Blackpool havnt been great but 12 games is too low a number to statistically see how he is (turn 2 of them draws into wins and he'd have done quite well - thats why 12 is too low a number to judge him on).
5 - Rovers are losing £2m per month, we need a manager who can get reasonably good results whilst continually losing his best and most experienced players - THIS IS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN at BRFC over the next 12 months - get used to it - he has experience at handling this type of situation at Pompy.
6 - To all those (majority) who are moaning about his appointment - who else would take the job ?
Pep G ? - I know he said he was ready to resume work but I don't think he had East Lancs in mind !
Mark Hughes - Has given no indication about wanting the job. Would MH really put up with the Venkys and SS ?
Billy Davies - Personally I thought he would be great but most on here didnt want him either.
Phil Brown - Have they really let this guy out on day release from the loony bin ?
Peter Taylor - Please God no !
OGS - Why would he work for the "Loones from Pune" when he can have his pick of jobs ?
Karl Robinson - Most Rovers fans don't want him because of his "lack of experience".
Sean O'Driscol - would have probably been a good shout but most on here would say he "wasnt a big enough name to manage us".
If MA gets the job then us fans have to give him the benefit of the doubt and get fully behind him - we need him here for the medium/longterm - 5 managers in 5 months is bordering on the ridiculous !
I also believe that JA has a financial stake in this club but where is your proof that -
1 - PA and DS met with JA in India before going onto Venkys.
2 - MA last week sacked his own agent and signed on with JA.
I'd love Andy Cryer to ask him at his press conference if it was true but somehow I'll bet he doesn't.
bburnrover
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8:59pm Thu 10 Jan 13
leitchy
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9:00pm Thu 10 Jan 13
Or perhaps Venks money and Kentaro footballing decisions!!
JA making a lot of money out of the Venks??
julespent
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9:00pm Thu 10 Jan 13
CheltRover
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9:01pm Thu 10 Jan 13
Stone Island:
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9:06pm Thu 10 Jan 13
Colne lads back
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9:13pm Thu 10 Jan 13
Two faced back stabbing fans welcomes two faced back stabbing manager to doom wood.
Finally you've found a manager that's going to get you back in the prem and Champions league footie at the first attempt.
Keep looking up, chim charoo
Harwoodstblue
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9:13pm Thu 10 Jan 13
Stone Island: wrote:There isn't another club in existence who would be daft enough.
I think this pending appointment could make footballing history. Because i'd be amazed if any manager, had EVER been poached from another club, having won just TWO of his first 12 games in charge!
But we are Venkys' new Blackburn Rovers.
noddymcleod
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9:13pm Thu 10 Jan 13
4000 for the next home, it's the only option. Don't some of you suckers realise that you're not turning to give Appleton a chance, you're turning up to give more dosh to Venkys to lessen the losses on their ill-advised venture.
padlebrfc
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9:13pm Thu 10 Jan 13
Stone Island: wrote:Maybe so, but maybe Rovers are not the only club that tinker with the managers decisions and break promises. Appleton couldn't get out of Blackpool quick enough.
I think this pending appointment could make footballing history. Because i'd be amazed if any manager, had EVER been poached from another club, having won just TWO of his first 12 games in charge!
I will still support the manager if he only wins 2 out of his first 12 games at Ewood. A manager needs a lot more than 12 games to get a club working his own way. However, the spirit of the squad and with the players being on a high gives the new manager a better start than a majority of others out there. Bowyer will still be in charge for the Wolves game and I fancy us there then hand the reigns over to the new man. For me Bowyer would ideally go back to reserve team manager.
trueblueaccy
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9:14pm Thu 10 Jan 13
noddy57 wrote:Get a life u sad ****-like the rest of the whingers on here get down Ewood and get behind whoever is the next manager and let's go forward for once. All you're doin is makin the situation worse!!!
right you people of ewood,we now have no alternative but to vote with our feet on mass, this latest comedy of errors just cannot be accepted by the supporters of blackburn rovers,li you dont take this action right now then you do not have the rovers in your heart,,enough is enough,
whappen
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9:16pm Thu 10 Jan 13
Fyrover wrote:The Oystons can spot an easy kill when they see one; fools and their money etc etc.....
Stone Island: wrote:Why would it be £2m thats 4 years wagesBeardwoodB wrote: Compensation agreed, look on SSN now!!!! Region of £2M£2M Compo? RUBBISH!
This is Venkys don't forget.
padlebrfc
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9:19pm Thu 10 Jan 13
noddymcleod wrote:Do you not realise that the more fans attend the more chance there is of selling a club??? If Venky's were even thinking about selling they would find a buyer a lot quicker with healthy gate receipts.
...and he's bringing his mate, so much for the two loyal saps who filled the breach and were going to be given until the end of January to prove themselves.
4000 for the next home, it's the only option. Don't some of you suckers realise that you're not turning to give Appleton a chance, you're turning up to give more dosh to Venkys to lessen the losses on their ill-advised venture.
All you doom and gloom lot would find everything wrong with any prospective buyers just as a reason to stay away.
dangerous dave
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9:20pm Thu 10 Jan 13
padlebrfc wrote:Better decisions - your off your head - awful appointment
How's about the doom and gloom brigade giving Appleton a chance? I think it's a good appointment. 12 months ago we would have taken him in place of K&@n and we were in the Prem back then. What's changed now? Who is really out there who we could afford, attract or who really fits the bill?
I think some people need a reality check. We are a mid table Championship side with no money in a mill town in the north of England. What we need is a grafter who wont take any sh!t from anybody. This is the fella.
Maybe the owners and the board are turning the corner, making better decisions. Lets hope thats the case because if most people got their way and Venky's walked away we would be finished. There would be no more BRFC. Lets get behind the manager and aid his success.
Welcome to our club Michael, I wish you all the best.
OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM
hasslem hasslem
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9:22pm Thu 10 Jan 13
if supporters start having a go at him from day 1, then rovers fans are as stupid as chelsea fans with benitez.
(none of the above applies if this rumour about sem/kentaro is true - then his life at ewood will be very difficult).
i think most rovers supporters' anger is the whole shambolic way the club is being run...it is truly pathetic and the squabbling between charlie careoli and tweedle dee and dum is like in the godfather where the sons are fighting for approval to be the annointed one before don corleone chooses michael.
for those who think that there are the first glimmers of light that rovers board and owners are starting to make sensible decisons - history doesn't back that up - its the old one of - if they fell into a barrel of t.its they would come up sucking their thumbs.
there is an old joke but it is worth repeating
blackburn bloke gets pulled over by cops on suspicion on drink driving.
copper asks for him to breathe into bag..."sorry no can do, i am asthmatic"
copper asks for a blood sample...."sorry no can do i am hemophiliac"
copper asks for a urine sample...."sorry no can do - i am a rovers supporter, please dont take the p.iss out of me"
padlebrfc
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9:24pm Thu 10 Jan 13
dangerous dave wrote:Who's your choice then doom and gloom dave?
padlebrfc wrote:Better decisions - your off your head - awful appointment
How's about the doom and gloom brigade giving Appleton a chance? I think it's a good appointment. 12 months ago we would have taken him in place of K&@n and we were in the Prem back then. What's changed now? Who is really out there who we could afford, attract or who really fits the bill?
I think some people need a reality check. We are a mid table Championship side with no money in a mill town in the north of England. What we need is a grafter who wont take any sh!t from anybody. This is the fella.
Maybe the owners and the board are turning the corner, making better decisions. Lets hope thats the case because if most people got their way and Venky's walked away we would be finished. There would be no more BRFC. Lets get behind the manager and aid his success.
Welcome to our club Michael, I wish you all the best.
OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM
Out with the lot of them so Rovers will be no more....
Who needs rivals with fans like you.
whappen
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9:28pm Thu 10 Jan 13
leitchy wrote:We've done that one.
Venks or Kentaro?? Who club is it?? Or perhaps Venks money and Kentaro footballing decisions!! JA making a lot of money out of the Venks??
hasslem hasslem
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9:29pm Thu 10 Jan 13
adults only as the last time he bared his arse at the town hall a little kid asked mummy "what's that?" mummy replied "don't worry my love, it's like a p.enis, only smaller".
J.C - Rishton
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9:34pm Thu 10 Jan 13
whappen wrote:"A fool and her money are easily parted ??"
Fyrover wrote:The Oystons can spot an easy kill when they see one; fools and their money etc etc.....
Stone Island: wrote:Why would it be £2m thats 4 years wagesBeardwoodB wrote: Compensation agreed, look on SSN now!!!! Region of £2M£2M Compo? RUBBISH!
This is Venkys don't forget.
Mrs Desai would pay someone a lot of money to expain that concept to her !!
fireonthemountain
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9:34pm Thu 10 Jan 13
Blackburn fans have long been resigned to the chaos that has engulfed Ewood Park.
"It's gone way past being funny, the club has gone beyond being a laughing stock," says Simon Garner, Blackburn's all-time leading scorer.
"The problems are at the top of the club, they just don't know how to run a football club. I fear for the future the longer it goes on, I really do. It is hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel."
Two years with Venky's
•Nov 2010: Poultry giant Venky's became the first Indian company to own a Premier League club
•Dec 2010: Club's new owners sack popular manager Sam Allardyce with club 13th in Premier League
•Dec 2010: Steve Kean appointed temporary manager - later appointed full time
•Dec 2011: Supporters protest against the Venky's ownership
•Sept 2012: Kean resigns as manager after club is relegated in May
•Oct 2012: Henning Berg appointed and sacked within 57 days with club 17th in Championship
The approach for Blackpool manager Michael Appleton on Wednesday was, according to those close to the club, another example of a club lacking cohesion, clarity of thought and unity. Nothing is what it seems, confusion reigns and the divisions in the boardroom continue to undermine any hopes of finding success on the field.
On 3 January, Blackburn released a statement confirming caretaker manager Gary Bowyer had been placed in charge of the club until at least the end of January. On 9 January, Blackburn released a statement confirming they had made a formal approach for Appleton, which has now been accepted .
Bowyer was not contacted by the club to inform him of the development and found out just minutes before the news went public. Having led the club to three successive victories for the first time since September 2008 and restored harmony to a dressing room previously riven by cliques, Bowyer might have been surprised.
"I do feel for Gary Bowyer," Garner added. "He was given a guarantee and then for the club to be approaching another a manager a few days later is incredible. But it doesn't matter who you bring in, Venky's are in India and don't have a clue what they are doing day-to-day."
Blackburn's global advisor Shebby Singh knew nothing of the approach for Appleton. The man Venky's tasked with running the club on their behalf was left out of the loop on the issue, leaving his future role unclear. Three key board members are split into two clear factions with operations director Paul Agnew and managing director Derek Shaw on one side, and Singh on the other.
Hardly a word has been exchanged between Agnew and Shaw and the club's global advisor since the turn of the year. On New Year's Eve, one faction watched the victory over Nottingham Forest from the directors' box, while Singh opted to watch the match from a private box.
None of the three men wanted to comment when approached by the BBC.
There has been tension between the parties for some time, dating back to Singh's arrival and the subsequent dismissal of manager Steve Kean. On 28 December, Shaw and Agnew flew to India to hold talks with Venky's in Pune. Both men voiced their concerns about a range of issues, including the role of Singh, and pushed to see an experienced manager appointed after Henning Berg's failure.
Michael Appleton - the manager
•Took charge of West Brom for one game in February 2011
•Appointed Portsmouth boss in November 2011
•Pompey record - P51 W13 D11 L27
•Appointed Blackpool boss November 2012
•Blackpool record - P12 W2 D8 L2
A club source claimed Agnew and Shaw had in fact been summoned to India by the owners and that their own positions could even be in doubt. Not for the first time, confusion reigned.
The divisions in the Ewood boardroom were also a key factor in the prolonged search to replace Kean. Shaw and Agnew met with Blackpool manager Ian Holloway, while Singh pursued Tim Sherwood.
When Berg was presented as manager, Shaw was quick to insist the appointment had been Singh's and Singh's alone. History will show, it was to prove a damaging and expensive mistake for Rovers. But with the club winning matches and the players happy with the leadership of Bowyer, the ripples are back.
On Thursday, Blackburn Rovers Action Group released a statement. "Internal power struggles have become far more important ," it read.
"While one man has tried to pull the club off the floor others in the board room have turned the club into a national laughing stock by undermining him… personality clashes are being prioritised over the best interests of the football club, it appears contradictory messages and statements add to the pantomime."
What Blackburn fans will find hardest to fathom is why the club is back in the news for the wrong reasons, just as matters on the field have, for the first time this season, settled down.
The players have enjoyed life under Bowyer and a number of them are understood to have expressed their anger at the way the caretaker manager has been treated when informed of the club's latest manoeuvrings on Thursday. The misinformation and confused statements, committing to Bowyer one day before approaching another manager six days later, have left staff, players and fans bewildered.
"As a player you just try to keep your head down and ignore what is happening off the field but it isn't easy with the club making the wrong sort of headlines time and time again," Garner said. "Is Michael Appleton the right man for the job? I don't know. But I have been on the internet today and I see he has a worse win percentage than Steve Kean and he is not the experienced name the fans want so he is on a hiding to nothing from the start."
There are suggestions the power struggle is coming to an end. Now the hope from the supporters is a return to harmony on and off the field, whoever is left standing at the end of the battle. Venky's have risked much to bankroll a push for an immediate return to the Premier League. Kean was allowed to invest more than £15m in transfer fees during the summer, paying a club record fee for Jordan Rhodes.
Failure to get back to the top flight at the first time of asking would increase the financial pressure on the club. Another battle looms and it is one Blackburn could do without. The club badge may hold the answer, at the base of it lie the words 'arte et labore' - by skill and by labour.
The hard work begins now.
Stone Island:
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9:34pm Thu 10 Jan 13
padlebrfc wrote:There are better managers out there, and out of work, with proper, proven, decent records in the Championship. Billy Davies and Sean O'Driscoll, to name but two.
Stone Island: wrote:Maybe so, but maybe Rovers are not the only club that tinker with the managers decisions and break promises. Appleton couldn't get out of Blackpool quick enough.
I think this pending appointment could make footballing history. Because i'd be amazed if any manager, had EVER been poached from another club, having won just TWO of his first 12 games in charge!
I will still support the manager if he only wins 2 out of his first 12 games at Ewood. A manager needs a lot more than 12 games to get a club working his own way. However, the spirit of the squad and with the players being on a high gives the new manager a better start than a majority of others out there. Bowyer will still be in charge for the Wolves game and I fancy us there then hand the reigns over to the new man. For me Bowyer would ideally go back to reserve team manager.
The players obviously had respect for, and were playing for GB. They will be dumbfounded at this appointment, and it could destroy morale and confidence among the players, at a crucial part of the season.
I'd rather they stuck with GB, than take a chance on this fella.
fanny_tickler.
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9:38pm Thu 10 Jan 13
srvp28
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9:47pm Thu 10 Jan 13
McRover wrote:Ah, the old 'friend in the business' routine strikes again. You're full of sh*t pal. What's next week's conspiracy theory, Jerome Anderson's dad owned the sound stage where they faked the moon landing? Or perhaps Elvis is alive and well, and working as a caretaker in SEM's headquarters?
J.C - Rishton wrote:I'm just telling you what I have been told by someone who works in profesional football who I believe. Whether you believe it or not is up to you pal.
McRover wrote:Thats an interesting statement you just made.
J.C - Rishton wrote:Agnew and Shaw travel to India and are picked up at the airport by a certain agent (JA) and have meeting with Venkys. Both these two are associated with Kentaro/SEM as were part of team Kean. Last weekend MA parted company with his management company and signed on with Kentaro. You can see where this is going can't you ,,,,,,,,,
I don't know why Rovers are so negative about him, personally I think its a reasonably good appointment.
1 - He's worked under RH and R DiM - two great people to learn from.
2 - He's worked at Pompy so he's just about the most experienced young manager who's worked at a club that is imploding.
3 - He did a good job at Pompey whilst having to sell ALL of his players (don't just look at his win/lose ratio - thats too simplistic - look how Pompys results have now totally collapsed since he has left.
4 - His results at Blackpool havnt been great but 12 games is too low a number to statistically see how he is (turn 2 of them draws into wins and he'd have done quite well - thats why 12 is too low a number to judge him on).
5 - Rovers are losing £2m per month, we need a manager who can get reasonably good results whilst continually losing his best and most experienced players - THIS IS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN at BRFC over the next 12 months - get used to it - he has experience at handling this type of situation at Pompy.
6 - To all those (majority) who are moaning about his appointment - who else would take the job ?
Pep G ? - I know he said he was ready to resume work but I don't think he had East Lancs in mind !
Mark Hughes - Has given no indication about wanting the job. Would MH really put up with the Venkys and SS ?
Billy Davies - Personally I thought he would be great but most on here didnt want him either.
Phil Brown - Have they really let this guy out on day release from the loony bin ?
Peter Taylor - Please God no !
OGS - Why would he work for the "Loones from Pune" when he can have his pick of jobs ?
Karl Robinson - Most Rovers fans don't want him because of his "lack of experience".
Sean O'Driscol - would have probably been a good shout but most on here would say he "wasnt a big enough name to manage us".
If MA gets the job then us fans have to give him the benefit of the doubt and get fully behind him - we need him here for the medium/longterm - 5 managers in 5 months is bordering on the ridiculous !
I also believe that JA has a financial stake in this club but where is your proof that -
1 - PA and DS met with JA in India before going onto Venkys.
2 - MA last week sacked his own agent and signed on with JA.
I'd love Andy Cryer to ask him at his press conference if it was true but somehow I'll bet he doesn't.
Unless you've got actual proof that you're willing to share with your fellow supporters I suggest you let this whole obsession with Anderson and his company go. It got boring a long time ago.
Colne lads back
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9:48pm Thu 10 Jan 13
fanny_tickler. wrote:IN
Appleton OUT!
padlebrfc
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9:48pm Thu 10 Jan 13
fireonthemountain wrote:The BBC need to get their facts right. Bowyer has been on Sky Sports this evening saying he was happy to take control until the end of the month with the understanding that if what the club though was the right man became available his time would be cut short.
From the BBC -
Blackburn fans have long been resigned to the chaos that has engulfed Ewood Park.
"It's gone way past being funny, the club has gone beyond being a laughing stock," says Simon Garner, Blackburn's all-time leading scorer.
"The problems are at the top of the club, they just don't know how to run a football club. I fear for the future the longer it goes on, I really do. It is hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel."
Two years with Venky's
•Nov 2010: Poultry giant Venky's became the first Indian company to own a Premier League club
•Dec 2010: Club's new owners sack popular manager Sam Allardyce with club 13th in Premier League
•Dec 2010: Steve Kean appointed temporary manager - later appointed full time
•Dec 2011: Supporters protest against the Venky's ownership
•Sept 2012: Kean resigns as manager after club is relegated in May
•Oct 2012: Henning Berg appointed and sacked within 57 days with club 17th in Championship
The approach for Blackpool manager Michael Appleton on Wednesday was, according to those close to the club, another example of a club lacking cohesion, clarity of thought and unity. Nothing is what it seems, confusion reigns and the divisions in the boardroom continue to undermine any hopes of finding success on the field.
On 3 January, Blackburn released a statement confirming caretaker manager Gary Bowyer had been placed in charge of the club until at least the end of January. On 9 January, Blackburn released a statement confirming they had made a formal approach for Appleton, which has now been accepted .
Bowyer was not contacted by the club to inform him of the development and found out just minutes before the news went public. Having led the club to three successive victories for the first time since September 2008 and restored harmony to a dressing room previously riven by cliques, Bowyer might have been surprised.
"I do feel for Gary Bowyer," Garner added. "He was given a guarantee and then for the club to be approaching another a manager a few days later is incredible. But it doesn't matter who you bring in, Venky's are in India and don't have a clue what they are doing day-to-day."
Blackburn's global advisor Shebby Singh knew nothing of the approach for Appleton. The man Venky's tasked with running the club on their behalf was left out of the loop on the issue, leaving his future role unclear. Three key board members are split into two clear factions with operations director Paul Agnew and managing director Derek Shaw on one side, and Singh on the other.
Hardly a word has been exchanged between Agnew and Shaw and the club's global advisor since the turn of the year. On New Year's Eve, one faction watched the victory over Nottingham Forest from the directors' box, while Singh opted to watch the match from a private box.
None of the three men wanted to comment when approached by the BBC.
There has been tension between the parties for some time, dating back to Singh's arrival and the subsequent dismissal of manager Steve Kean. On 28 December, Shaw and Agnew flew to India to hold talks with Venky's in Pune. Both men voiced their concerns about a range of issues, including the role of Singh, and pushed to see an experienced manager appointed after Henning Berg's failure.
Michael Appleton - the manager
•Took charge of West Brom for one game in February 2011
•Appointed Portsmouth boss in November 2011
•Pompey record - P51 W13 D11 L27
•Appointed Blackpool boss November 2012
•Blackpool record - P12 W2 D8 L2
A club source claimed Agnew and Shaw had in fact been summoned to India by the owners and that their own positions could even be in doubt. Not for the first time, confusion reigned.
The divisions in the Ewood boardroom were also a key factor in the prolonged search to replace Kean. Shaw and Agnew met with Blackpool manager Ian Holloway, while Singh pursued Tim Sherwood.
When Berg was presented as manager, Shaw was quick to insist the appointment had been Singh's and Singh's alone. History will show, it was to prove a damaging and expensive mistake for Rovers. But with the club winning matches and the players happy with the leadership of Bowyer, the ripples are back.
On Thursday, Blackburn Rovers Action Group released a statement. "Internal power struggles have become far more important ," it read.
"While one man has tried to pull the club off the floor others in the board room have turned the club into a national laughing stock by undermining him… personality clashes are being prioritised over the best interests of the football club, it appears contradictory messages and statements add to the pantomime."
What Blackburn fans will find hardest to fathom is why the club is back in the news for the wrong reasons, just as matters on the field have, for the first time this season, settled down.
The players have enjoyed life under Bowyer and a number of them are understood to have expressed their anger at the way the caretaker manager has been treated when informed of the club's latest manoeuvrings on Thursday. The misinformation and confused statements, committing to Bowyer one day before approaching another manager six days later, have left staff, players and fans bewildered.
"As a player you just try to keep your head down and ignore what is happening off the field but it isn't easy with the club making the wrong sort of headlines time and time again," Garner said. "Is Michael Appleton the right man for the job? I don't know. But I have been on the internet today and I see he has a worse win percentage than Steve Kean and he is not the experienced name the fans want so he is on a hiding to nothing from the start."
There are suggestions the power struggle is coming to an end. Now the hope from the supporters is a return to harmony on and off the field, whoever is left standing at the end of the battle. Venky's have risked much to bankroll a push for an immediate return to the Premier League. Kean was allowed to invest more than £15m in transfer fees during the summer, paying a club record fee for Jordan Rhodes.
Failure to get back to the top flight at the first time of asking would increase the financial pressure on the club. Another battle looms and it is one Blackburn could do without. The club badge may hold the answer, at the base of it lie the words 'arte et labore' - by skill and by labour.
The hard work begins now.
Why would the club have contacted Bowyer first? Bowyer is the caretaker manager, a temp.
Personally I would have given Bowyer the job until the end of the season and reviewed the situation then. However thousands of so called fans would not have accepted that and although results were going our way he would not be a big enough name. Just like in the Blues Bar after the game on Saturday, after a convincing win, fans were commenting that we went about it the wrong way, we were playing flicks here and there and just knocking the ball about and we have no right to do that when the club is in disarray.
We have a lot of fans that need a reality check at Ewood. A majority being the post 1992 brigade. Try to enjoy when we win and more importantly try to actually support the team and get behind the lads wearing our famous blue and white halves.
Colne lads back
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9:51pm Thu 10 Jan 13
K L U
U T C
BeardwoodB
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9:51pm Thu 10 Jan 13
Fyrover wrote:Just what's being branded about.
Stone Island: wrote:Why would it be £2m thats 4 years wages
BeardwoodB wrote:£2M Compo? RUBBISH!
Compensation agreed, look on SSN now!!!!
Region of £2M
Like half the boll ocks people talk on here I'm merely contributing with my own.
Take it or leave it, I've heard it's in that region.
A years wages, a stage 1 contract release (whatever that is) plus extra staff compensation = £2m
BeardwoodB
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9:54pm Thu 10 Jan 13
8 Ball Deluxe wrote:Big Sam employed the guy.
BeardwoodB wrote:Hello the bearded one, as far as I'm aware, the only people who said Kean was a good coach were SEM Kentaro, the SEM Kentaro Sky Mafia, charlie nichlos, Matt le tiss, etc etc Jerome Anderson and Steve Kean himself. I have yet to hear a reputable manager, ie moyes, fergie, rafa, mourinho etc say that Steve Kean is a good coach. Please post the link to a manager with credibility who stated this.
J.C - Rishton wrote:You've contradicted yourself a few times there son.
I don't know why Rovers are so negative about him, personally I think its a reasonably good appointment.
1 - He's worked under RH and R DiM - two great people to learn from.
2 - He's worked at Pompy so he's just about the most experienced young manager who's worked at a club that is imploding.
3 - He did a good job at Pompey whilst having to sell ALL of his players (don't just look at his win/lose ratio - thats too simplistic - look how Pompys results have now totally collapsed since he has left.
4 - His results at Blackpool havnt been great but 12 games is too low a number to statistically see how he is (turn 2 of them draws into wins and he'd have done quite well - thats why 12 is too low a number to judge him on).
5 - Rovers are losing £2m per month, we need a manager who can get reasonably good results whilst continually losing his best and most experienced players - THIS IS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN at BRFC over the next 12 months - get used to it - he has experience at handling this type of situation at Pompy.
6 - To all those (majority) who are moaning about his appointment - who else would take the job ?
Pep G ? - I know he said he was ready to resume work but I don't think he had East Lancs in mind !
Mark Hughes - Has given no indication about wanting the job. Would MH really put up with the Venkys and SS ?
Billy Davies - Personally I thought he would be great but most on here didnt want him either.
Phil Brown - Have they really let this guy out on day release from the loony bin ?
Peter Taylor - Please God no !
OGS - Why would he work for the "Loones from Pune" when he can have his pick of jobs ?
Karl Robinson - Most Rovers fans don't want him because of his "lack of experience".
Sean O'Driscol - would have probably been a good shout but most on here would say he "wasnt a big enough name to manage us".
If MA gets the job then us fans have to give him the benefit of the doubt and get fully behind him - we need him here for the medium/longterm - 5 managers in 5 months is bordering on the ridiculous !
He took Pompey down, all be it with them having all the financial problems BUT they still got relegated.
He's worked under good managers yes but we need a GOOD experienced manager not a great coach.
Steve Kean was a great coach but awful manager.
He's creditable in my eyes.
padlebrfc
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9:55pm Thu 10 Jan 13
Stone Island: wrote:Billy Davies and Sean O'Driscoll??? Don't make me laugh. Neither have the credentials to manage the Rovers unless we want to establish ourselves as a mediocre second rate side.
padlebrfc wrote:There are better managers out there, and out of work, with proper, proven, decent records in the Championship. Billy Davies and Sean O'Driscoll, to name but two.
Stone Island: wrote:Maybe so, but maybe Rovers are not the only club that tinker with the managers decisions and break promises. Appleton couldn't get out of Blackpool quick enough.
I think this pending appointment could make footballing history. Because i'd be amazed if any manager, had EVER been poached from another club, having won just TWO of his first 12 games in charge!
I will still support the manager if he only wins 2 out of his first 12 games at Ewood. A manager needs a lot more than 12 games to get a club working his own way. However, the spirit of the squad and with the players being on a high gives the new manager a better start than a majority of others out there. Bowyer will still be in charge for the Wolves game and I fancy us there then hand the reigns over to the new man. For me Bowyer would ideally go back to reserve team manager.
The players obviously had respect for, and were playing for GB. They will be dumbfounded at this appointment, and it could destroy morale and confidence among the players, at a crucial part of the season.
I'd rather they stuck with GB, than take a chance on this fella.
I too would have stuck with Bowyer but reading various message boards not many other 'fans' would have been suited to that decision and as soon as we started to drop points the usual suspects would have turned on him.
8 Ball Deluxe
says...
9:56pm Thu 10 Jan 13
fireonthemountain wrote:Interesting post although BRAG getting in bed with Shaggy is a massive own goal. I saw the interview when shaggy said pedersen was a pensioner and the BRAG monkeys sat there next to shaggy nodding at his every word.
From the BBC -
Blackburn fans have long been resigned to the chaos that has engulfed Ewood Park.
"It's gone way past being funny, the club has gone beyond being a laughing stock," says Simon Garner, Blackburn's all-time leading scorer.
"The problems are at the top of the club, they just don't know how to run a football club. I fear for the future the longer it goes on, I really do. It is hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel."
Two years with Venky's
•Nov 2010: Poultry giant Venky's became the first Indian company to own a Premier League club
•Dec 2010: Club's new owners sack popular manager Sam Allardyce with club 13th in Premier League
•Dec 2010: Steve Kean appointed temporary manager - later appointed full time
•Dec 2011: Supporters protest against the Venky's ownership
•Sept 2012: Kean resigns as manager after club is relegated in May
•Oct 2012: Henning Berg appointed and sacked within 57 days with club 17th in Championship
The approach for Blackpool manager Michael Appleton on Wednesday was, according to those close to the club, another example of a club lacking cohesion, clarity of thought and unity. Nothing is what it seems, confusion reigns and the divisions in the boardroom continue to undermine any hopes of finding success on the field.
On 3 January, Blackburn released a statement confirming caretaker manager Gary Bowyer had been placed in charge of the club until at least the end of January. On 9 January, Blackburn released a statement confirming they had made a formal approach for Appleton, which has now been accepted .
Bowyer was not contacted by the club to inform him of the development and found out just minutes before the news went public. Having led the club to three successive victories for the first time since September 2008 and restored harmony to a dressing room previously riven by cliques, Bowyer might have been surprised.
"I do feel for Gary Bowyer," Garner added. "He was given a guarantee and then for the club to be approaching another a manager a few days later is incredible. But it doesn't matter who you bring in, Venky's are in India and don't have a clue what they are doing day-to-day."
Blackburn's global advisor Shebby Singh knew nothing of the approach for Appleton. The man Venky's tasked with running the club on their behalf was left out of the loop on the issue, leaving his future role unclear. Three key board members are split into two clear factions with operations director Paul Agnew and managing director Derek Shaw on one side, and Singh on the other.
Hardly a word has been exchanged between Agnew and Shaw and the club's global advisor since the turn of the year. On New Year's Eve, one faction watched the victory over Nottingham Forest from the directors' box, while Singh opted to watch the match from a private box.
None of the three men wanted to comment when approached by the BBC.
There has been tension between the parties for some time, dating back to Singh's arrival and the subsequent dismissal of manager Steve Kean. On 28 December, Shaw and Agnew flew to India to hold talks with Venky's in Pune. Both men voiced their concerns about a range of issues, including the role of Singh, and pushed to see an experienced manager appointed after Henning Berg's failure.
Michael Appleton - the manager
•Took charge of West Brom for one game in February 2011
•Appointed Portsmouth boss in November 2011
•Pompey record - P51 W13 D11 L27
•Appointed Blackpool boss November 2012
•Blackpool record - P12 W2 D8 L2
A club source claimed Agnew and Shaw had in fact been summoned to India by the owners and that their own positions could even be in doubt. Not for the first time, confusion reigned.
The divisions in the Ewood boardroom were also a key factor in the prolonged search to replace Kean. Shaw and Agnew met with Blackpool manager Ian Holloway, while Singh pursued Tim Sherwood.
When Berg was presented as manager, Shaw was quick to insist the appointment had been Singh's and Singh's alone. History will show, it was to prove a damaging and expensive mistake for Rovers. But with the club winning matches and the players happy with the leadership of Bowyer, the ripples are back.
On Thursday, Blackburn Rovers Action Group released a statement. "Internal power struggles have become far more important ," it read.
"While one man has tried to pull the club off the floor others in the board room have turned the club into a national laughing stock by undermining him… personality clashes are being prioritised over the best interests of the football club, it appears contradictory messages and statements add to the pantomime."
What Blackburn fans will find hardest to fathom is why the club is back in the news for the wrong reasons, just as matters on the field have, for the first time this season, settled down.
The players have enjoyed life under Bowyer and a number of them are understood to have expressed their anger at the way the caretaker manager has been treated when informed of the club's latest manoeuvrings on Thursday. The misinformation and confused statements, committing to Bowyer one day before approaching another manager six days later, have left staff, players and fans bewildered.
"As a player you just try to keep your head down and ignore what is happening off the field but it isn't easy with the club making the wrong sort of headlines time and time again," Garner said. "Is Michael Appleton the right man for the job? I don't know. But I have been on the internet today and I see he has a worse win percentage than Steve Kean and he is not the experienced name the fans want so he is on a hiding to nothing from the start."
There are suggestions the power struggle is coming to an end. Now the hope from the supporters is a return to harmony on and off the field, whoever is left standing at the end of the battle. Venky's have risked much to bankroll a push for an immediate return to the Premier League. Kean was allowed to invest more than £15m in transfer fees during the summer, paying a club record fee for Jordan Rhodes.
Failure to get back to the top flight at the first time of asking would increase the financial pressure on the club. Another battle looms and it is one Blackburn could do without. The club badge may hold the answer, at the base of it lie the words 'arte et labore' - by skill and by labour.
The hard work begins now.
Shaggy after all is the same guy who said giggs should play centre half and steven gerrards best position was right back. Not to mention last weeks bizarre interview where he said we had just won six points and eveyone who phoned up was called Robbie.
BRAG out you've backed the wrong halfwit still two halfwitts make a whole as they say.
padlebrfc
says...
10:04pm Thu 10 Jan 13
8 Ball Deluxe wrote:BRAG are as embarrassing as the Venky's.
fireonthemountain wrote:Interesting post although BRAG getting in bed with Shaggy is a massive own goal. I saw the interview when shaggy said pedersen was a pensioner and the BRAG monkeys sat there next to shaggy nodding at his every word.
From the BBC -
Blackburn fans have long been resigned to the chaos that has engulfed Ewood Park.
"It's gone way past being funny, the club has gone beyond being a laughing stock," says Simon Garner, Blackburn's all-time leading scorer.
"The problems are at the top of the club, they just don't know how to run a football club. I fear for the future the longer it goes on, I really do. It is hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel."
Two years with Venky's
•Nov 2010: Poultry giant Venky's became the first Indian company to own a Premier League club
•Dec 2010: Club's new owners sack popular manager Sam Allardyce with club 13th in Premier League
•Dec 2010: Steve Kean appointed temporary manager - later appointed full time
•Dec 2011: Supporters protest against the Venky's ownership
•Sept 2012: Kean resigns as manager after club is relegated in May
•Oct 2012: Henning Berg appointed and sacked within 57 days with club 17th in Championship
The approach for Blackpool manager Michael Appleton on Wednesday was, according to those close to the club, another example of a club lacking cohesion, clarity of thought and unity. Nothing is what it seems, confusion reigns and the divisions in the boardroom continue to undermine any hopes of finding success on the field.
On 3 January, Blackburn released a statement confirming caretaker manager Gary Bowyer had been placed in charge of the club until at least the end of January. On 9 January, Blackburn released a statement confirming they had made a formal approach for Appleton, which has now been accepted .
Bowyer was not contacted by the club to inform him of the development and found out just minutes before the news went public. Having led the club to three successive victories for the first time since September 2008 and restored harmony to a dressing room previously riven by cliques, Bowyer might have been surprised.
"I do feel for Gary Bowyer," Garner added. "He was given a guarantee and then for the club to be approaching another a manager a few days later is incredible. But it doesn't matter who you bring in, Venky's are in India and don't have a clue what they are doing day-to-day."
Blackburn's global advisor Shebby Singh knew nothing of the approach for Appleton. The man Venky's tasked with running the club on their behalf was left out of the loop on the issue, leaving his future role unclear. Three key board members are split into two clear factions with operations director Paul Agnew and managing director Derek Shaw on one side, and Singh on the other.
Hardly a word has been exchanged between Agnew and Shaw and the club's global advisor since the turn of the year. On New Year's Eve, one faction watched the victory over Nottingham Forest from the directors' box, while Singh opted to watch the match from a private box.
None of the three men wanted to comment when approached by the BBC.
There has been tension between the parties for some time, dating back to Singh's arrival and the subsequent dismissal of manager Steve Kean. On 28 December, Shaw and Agnew flew to India to hold talks with Venky's in Pune. Both men voiced their concerns about a range of issues, including the role of Singh, and pushed to see an experienced manager appointed after Henning Berg's failure.
Michael Appleton - the manager
•Took charge of West Brom for one game in February 2011
•Appointed Portsmouth boss in November 2011
•Pompey record - P51 W13 D11 L27
•Appointed Blackpool boss November 2012
•Blackpool record - P12 W2 D8 L2
A club source claimed Agnew and Shaw had in fact been summoned to India by the owners and that their own positions could even be in doubt. Not for the first time, confusion reigned.
The divisions in the Ewood boardroom were also a key factor in the prolonged search to replace Kean. Shaw and Agnew met with Blackpool manager Ian Holloway, while Singh pursued Tim Sherwood.
When Berg was presented as manager, Shaw was quick to insist the appointment had been Singh's and Singh's alone. History will show, it was to prove a damaging and expensive mistake for Rovers. But with the club winning matches and the players happy with the leadership of Bowyer, the ripples are back.
On Thursday, Blackburn Rovers Action Group released a statement. "Internal power struggles have become far more important ," it read.
"While one man has tried to pull the club off the floor others in the board room have turned the club into a national laughing stock by undermining him… personality clashes are being prioritised over the best interests of the football club, it appears contradictory messages and statements add to the pantomime."
What Blackburn fans will find hardest to fathom is why the club is back in the news for the wrong reasons, just as matters on the field have, for the first time this season, settled down.
The players have enjoyed life under Bowyer and a number of them are understood to have expressed their anger at the way the caretaker manager has been treated when informed of the club's latest manoeuvrings on Thursday. The misinformation and confused statements, committing to Bowyer one day before approaching another manager six days later, have left staff, players and fans bewildered.
"As a player you just try to keep your head down and ignore what is happening off the field but it isn't easy with the club making the wrong sort of headlines time and time again," Garner said. "Is Michael Appleton the right man for the job? I don't know. But I have been on the internet today and I see he has a worse win percentage than Steve Kean and he is not the experienced name the fans want so he is on a hiding to nothing from the start."
There are suggestions the power struggle is coming to an end. Now the hope from the supporters is a return to harmony on and off the field, whoever is left standing at the end of the battle. Venky's have risked much to bankroll a push for an immediate return to the Premier League. Kean was allowed to invest more than £15m in transfer fees during the summer, paying a club record fee for Jordan Rhodes.
Failure to get back to the top flight at the first time of asking would increase the financial pressure on the club. Another battle looms and it is one Blackburn could do without. The club badge may hold the answer, at the base of it lie the words 'arte et labore' - by skill and by labour.
The hard work begins now.
Shaggy after all is the same guy who said giggs should play centre half and steven gerrards best position was right back. Not to mention last weeks bizarre interview where he said we had just won six points and eveyone who phoned up was called Robbie.
BRAG out you've backed the wrong halfwit still two halfwitts make a whole as they say.
Arthur Labore
says...
10:05pm Thu 10 Jan 13
Venkys/Singh/Agnew/S
haw OUT!
Stone Island:
says...
10:11pm Thu 10 Jan 13
padlebrfc wrote:Neither Davies or O'Driscoll have the credentials to manage Rovers? PMSL What? and Appleton has?
Stone Island: wrote:Billy Davies and Sean O'Driscoll??? Don't make me laugh. Neither have the credentials to manage the Rovers unless we want to establish ourselves as a mediocre second rate side.
padlebrfc wrote:There are better managers out there, and out of work, with proper, proven, decent records in the Championship. Billy Davies and Sean O'Driscoll, to name but two.
Stone Island: wrote:Maybe so, but maybe Rovers are not the only club that tinker with the managers decisions and break promises. Appleton couldn't get out of Blackpool quick enough.
I think this pending appointment could make footballing history. Because i'd be amazed if any manager, had EVER been poached from another club, having won just TWO of his first 12 games in charge!
I will still support the manager if he only wins 2 out of his first 12 games at Ewood. A manager needs a lot more than 12 games to get a club working his own way. However, the spirit of the squad and with the players being on a high gives the new manager a better start than a majority of others out there. Bowyer will still be in charge for the Wolves game and I fancy us there then hand the reigns over to the new man. For me Bowyer would ideally go back to reserve team manager.
The players obviously had respect for, and were playing for GB. They will be dumbfounded at this appointment, and it could destroy morale and confidence among the players, at a crucial part of the season.
I'd rather they stuck with GB, than take a chance on this fella.
I too would have stuck with Bowyer but reading various message boards not many other 'fans' would have been suited to that decision and as soon as we started to drop points the usual suspects would have turned on him.
Billy Davies win ratio = 40.57%
O'Driscoll = 36.29%
Appleton = 23.81%
Appleton has won TWO from TWELVE at Blackpool. What qualifies him to manage Rovers?
baldie
says...
10:21pm Thu 10 Jan 13
fireonthemountain wrote:I'm assuming that by pointing out that Appleton only lost 27 of his 51 games at Portsmouth,you are,in fact,behind his appointment.
From the BBC -
Blackburn fans have long been resigned to the chaos that has engulfed Ewood Park.
"It's gone way past being funny, the club has gone beyond being a laughing stock," says Simon Garner, Blackburn's all-time leading scorer.
"The problems are at the top of the club, they just don't know how to run a football club. I fear for the future the longer it goes on, I really do. It is hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel."
Two years with Venky's
•Nov 2010: Poultry giant Venky's became the first Indian company to own a Premier League club
•Dec 2010: Club's new owners sack popular manager Sam Allardyce with club 13th in Premier League
•Dec 2010: Steve Kean appointed temporary manager - later appointed full time
•Dec 2011: Supporters protest against the Venky's ownership
•Sept 2012: Kean resigns as manager after club is relegated in May
•Oct 2012: Henning Berg appointed and sacked within 57 days with club 17th in Championship
The approach for Blackpool manager Michael Appleton on Wednesday was, according to those close to the club, another example of a club lacking cohesion, clarity of thought and unity. Nothing is what it seems, confusion reigns and the divisions in the boardroom continue to undermine any hopes of finding success on the field.
On 3 January, Blackburn released a statement confirming caretaker manager Gary Bowyer had been placed in charge of the club until at least the end of January. On 9 January, Blackburn released a statement confirming they had made a formal approach for Appleton, which has now been accepted .
Bowyer was not contacted by the club to inform him of the development and found out just minutes before the news went public. Having led the club to three successive victories for the first time since September 2008 and restored harmony to a dressing room previously riven by cliques, Bowyer might have been surprised.
"I do feel for Gary Bowyer," Garner added. "He was given a guarantee and then for the club to be approaching another a manager a few days later is incredible. But it doesn't matter who you bring in, Venky's are in India and don't have a clue what they are doing day-to-day."
Blackburn's global advisor Shebby Singh knew nothing of the approach for Appleton. The man Venky's tasked with running the club on their behalf was left out of the loop on the issue, leaving his future role unclear. Three key board members are split into two clear factions with operations director Paul Agnew and managing director Derek Shaw on one side, and Singh on the other.
Hardly a word has been exchanged between Agnew and Shaw and the club's global advisor since the turn of the year. On New Year's Eve, one faction watched the victory over Nottingham Forest from the directors' box, while Singh opted to watch the match from a private box.
None of the three men wanted to comment when approached by the BBC.
There has been tension between the parties for some time, dating back to Singh's arrival and the subsequent dismissal of manager Steve Kean. On 28 December, Shaw and Agnew flew to India to hold talks with Venky's in Pune. Both men voiced their concerns about a range of issues, including the role of Singh, and pushed to see an experienced manager appointed after Henning Berg's failure.
Michael Appleton - the manager
•Took charge of West Brom for one game in February 2011
•Appointed Portsmouth boss in November 2011
•Pompey record - P51 W13 D11 L27
•Appointed Blackpool boss November 2012
•Blackpool record - P12 W2 D8 L2
A club source claimed Agnew and Shaw had in fact been summoned to India by the owners and that their own positions could even be in doubt. Not for the first time, confusion reigned.
The divisions in the Ewood boardroom were also a key factor in the prolonged search to replace Kean. Shaw and Agnew met with Blackpool manager Ian Holloway, while Singh pursued Tim Sherwood.
When Berg was presented as manager, Shaw was quick to insist the appointment had been Singh's and Singh's alone. History will show, it was to prove a damaging and expensive mistake for Rovers. But with the club winning matches and the players happy with the leadership of Bowyer, the ripples are back.
On Thursday, Blackburn Rovers Action Group released a statement. "Internal power struggles have become far more important ," it read.
"While one man has tried to pull the club off the floor others in the board room have turned the club into a national laughing stock by undermining him… personality clashes are being prioritised over the best interests of the football club, it appears contradictory messages and statements add to the pantomime."
What Blackburn fans will find hardest to fathom is why the club is back in the news for the wrong reasons, just as matters on the field have, for the first time this season, settled down.
The players have enjoyed life under Bowyer and a number of them are understood to have expressed their anger at the way the caretaker manager has been treated when informed of the club's latest manoeuvrings on Thursday. The misinformation and confused statements, committing to Bowyer one day before approaching another manager six days later, have left staff, players and fans bewildered.
"As a player you just try to keep your head down and ignore what is happening off the field but it isn't easy with the club making the wrong sort of headlines time and time again," Garner said. "Is Michael Appleton the right man for the job? I don't know. But I have been on the internet today and I see he has a worse win percentage than Steve Kean and he is not the experienced name the fans want so he is on a hiding to nothing from the start."
There are suggestions the power struggle is coming to an end. Now the hope from the supporters is a return to harmony on and off the field, whoever is left standing at the end of the battle. Venky's have risked much to bankroll a push for an immediate return to the Premier League. Kean was allowed to invest more than £15m in transfer fees during the summer, paying a club record fee for Jordan Rhodes.
Failure to get back to the top flight at the first time of asking would increase the financial pressure on the club. Another battle looms and it is one Blackburn could do without. The club badge may hold the answer, at the base of it lie the words 'arte et labore' - by skill and by labour.
The hard work begins now.
Otherwise,you must be really badly informed.
A Rover 45 years and over
says...
10:24pm Thu 10 Jan 13
sallycinamon wrote:Yes he would be too old to start again at a new Club.
Time to stop finding fault. If they appointed fergie the fans would find a reason to moan.
French Rover
says...
10:27pm Thu 10 Jan 13
padlebrfc wrote:good and fair comments Mr P.....further to your point - Appleton may have won only two matches but he only lost two matches out of twelve. Got to give the guy a chance, his background says he deserves that much respect at least. Ferguson likes him so we may still get some loans form OT.....
Stone Island: wrote:Maybe so, but maybe Rovers are not the only club that tinker with the managers decisions and break promises. Appleton couldn't get out of Blackpool quick enough.
I think this pending appointment could make footballing history. Because i'd be amazed if any manager, had EVER been poached from another club, having won just TWO of his first 12 games in charge!
I will still support the manager if he only wins 2 out of his first 12 games at Ewood. A manager needs a lot more than 12 games to get a club working his own way. However, the spirit of the squad and with the players being on a high gives the new manager a better start than a majority of others out there. Bowyer will still be in charge for the Wolves game and I fancy us there then hand the reigns over to the new man. For me Bowyer would ideally go back to reserve team manager.
baldie
says...
10:27pm Thu 10 Jan 13
A Rover 45 years and over wrote:They don't really believe what they're saying,it's just this week's excuse for not going.
sallycinamon wrote:Yes he would be too old to start again at a new Club.
Time to stop finding fault. If they appointed fergie the fans would find a reason to moan.
8 Ball Deluxe
says...
10:28pm Thu 10 Jan 13
Steve Kean has a better win ratio at 28% and he got us relegated so what do you think would happen with a guy with a 23% win ratio?
Bad move just stick with Bowyer.
CheltRover
says...
10:31pm Thu 10 Jan 13
padlebrfc wrote:If youd choose bowyer over Davies or odriscol then it shows how little you know. We need an experienced manager. Even bowyer knows he's not up to the job
Stone Island: wrote:Billy Davies and Sean O'Driscoll??? Don't make me laugh. Neither have the credentials to manage the Rovers unless we want to establish ourselves as a mediocre second rate side.
padlebrfc wrote:There are better managers out there, and out of work, with proper, proven, decent records in the Championship. Billy Davies and Sean O'Driscoll, to name but two.
Stone Island: wrote:Maybe so, but maybe Rovers are not the only club that tinker with the managers decisions and break promises. Appleton couldn't get out of Blackpool quick enough.
I think this pending appointment could make footballing history. Because i'd be amazed if any manager, had EVER been poached from another club, having won just TWO of his first 12 games in charge!
I will still support the manager if he only wins 2 out of his first 12 games at Ewood. A manager needs a lot more than 12 games to get a club working his own way. However, the spirit of the squad and with the players being on a high gives the new manager a better start than a majority of others out there. Bowyer will still be in charge for the Wolves game and I fancy us there then hand the reigns over to the new man. For me Bowyer would ideally go back to reserve team manager.
The players obviously had respect for, and were playing for GB. They will be dumbfounded at this appointment, and it could destroy morale and confidence among the players, at a crucial part of the season.
I'd rather they stuck with GB, than take a chance on this fella.
I too would have stuck with Bowyer but reading various message boards not many other 'fans' would have been suited to that decision and as soon as we started to drop points the usual suspects would have turned on him.
baldie
says...
10:36pm Thu 10 Jan 13
8 Ball Deluxe wrote:What is all this win ratio bo11ocks?
Whilst I disagree with BRAG trying to stick the oar in, the appointment of appleton would be a mistake.
Steve Kean has a better win ratio at 28% and he got us relegated so what do you think would happen with a guy with a 23% win ratio?
Bad move just stick with Bowyer.
How can you possibly compare the opportunity Kean had at Rovers to the one Appleton had at Portsmouth?
blueblooded
says...
10:38pm Thu 10 Jan 13
Colne lads back wrote:What do Bonleh lads use as birth control?
What do BLACKBUM fans use as birth control?
Their personalities
The other holes.
padlebrfc
says...
10:39pm Thu 10 Jan 13
Stone Island: wrote:Not that I have to explain myself to you, all I need to say is that I would rather have a young promising manager than a manager who has a wealth of experience at being mediocre at best. Appleton has a lot to prove and is a grafter. Remember, this is about personal opinion. Davies and O'Driscoll would not command any more respect from the players and fans than Appleton. I don't think the win ratio's are comparable when Appleton has only managed 70 games or so. Appleton's 23% is down to a majority of his games managing a club where the squad was totally ripped apart, more so than ours has been in the last 2 years. Win ratio's mean nothing when you omit the circumstances in which they were achieved.
padlebrfc wrote:Neither Davies or O'Driscoll have the credentials to manage Rovers? PMSL What? and Appleton has?
Stone Island: wrote:Billy Davies and Sean O'Driscoll??? Don't make me laugh. Neither have the credentials to manage the Rovers unless we want to establish ourselves as a mediocre second rate side.
padlebrfc wrote:There are better managers out there, and out of work, with proper, proven, decent records in the Championship. Billy Davies and Sean O'Driscoll, to name but two.
Stone Island: wrote:Maybe so, but maybe Rovers are not the only club that tinker with the managers decisions and break promises. Appleton couldn't get out of Blackpool quick enough.
I think this pending appointment could make footballing history. Because i'd be amazed if any manager, had EVER been poached from another club, having won just TWO of his first 12 games in charge!
I will still support the manager if he only wins 2 out of his first 12 games at Ewood. A manager needs a lot more than 12 games to get a club working his own way. However, the spirit of the squad and with the players being on a high gives the new manager a better start than a majority of others out there. Bowyer will still be in charge for the Wolves game and I fancy us there then hand the reigns over to the new man. For me Bowyer would ideally go back to reserve team manager.
The players obviously had respect for, and were playing for GB. They will be dumbfounded at this appointment, and it could destroy morale and confidence among the players, at a crucial part of the season.
I'd rather they stuck with GB, than take a chance on this fella.
I too would have stuck with Bowyer but reading various message boards not many other 'fans' would have been suited to that decision and as soon as we started to drop points the usual suspects would have turned on him.
Billy Davies win ratio = 40.57%
O'Driscoll = 36.29%
Appleton = 23.81%
Appleton has won TWO from TWELVE at Blackpool. What qualifies him to manage Rovers?
submin01
says...
10:41pm Thu 10 Jan 13
When in a hole stop digging.
forever_rovers
says...
10:41pm Thu 10 Jan 13
dangerous dave wrote:I am not predicting doom & gloom just observing another PR debacle with no coherent message and poor decision making.
padlebrfc wrote:Better decisions - your off your head - awful appointment
How's about the doom and gloom brigade giving Appleton a chance? I think it's a good appointment. 12 months ago we would have taken him in place of K&@n and we were in the Prem back then. What's changed now? Who is really out there who we could afford, attract or who really fits the bill?
I think some people need a reality check. We are a mid table Championship side with no money in a mill town in the north of England. What we need is a grafter who wont take any sh!t from anybody. This is the fella.
Maybe the owners and the board are turning the corner, making better decisions. Lets hope thats the case because if most people got their way and Venky's walked away we would be finished. There would be no more BRFC. Lets get behind the manager and aid his success.
Welcome to our club Michael, I wish you all the best.
OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM
Our best run post Sam triggers rush to trade promising Bowyer for grumpy unknown with dodgy record.
You can paint it pink but the club is already a shadow of its pre-Venkys form.
Venkys are the worst owners Rovers have ever had.
8 Ball Deluxe
says...
10:41pm Thu 10 Jan 13
baldie wrote:Its all on wikipedia as historical fact
8 Ball Deluxe wrote:What is all this win ratio bo11ocks?
Whilst I disagree with BRAG trying to stick the oar in, the appointment of appleton would be a mistake.
Steve Kean has a better win ratio at 28% and he got us relegated so what do you think would happen with a guy with a 23% win ratio?
Bad move just stick with Bowyer.
How can you possibly compare the opportunity Kean had at Rovers to the one Appleton had at Portsmouth?
If you have a manager with a 23% win ratio at the helm...... you will get relegated
Just as with Kean with a 28% win ratio we got relegated. There is nothing Bollax about simple maths, I take it maths wasn't your strongest subject?
So as appleton has a 23% win ratio which is worse than Keans 28% and we went down, guess what my next sentence is?
tkrypton
says...
10:41pm Thu 10 Jan 13
Colne lads back wrote:Jimmy Savile fixed it for you to milk a cow blind-folded, and you evidently enjoyed it, as it left no trace of a scar on your emotional development.
What do you say to a BLACKBUM fan with a good looking bird on his arm?
Nice tattoo
greenscreener
says...
10:43pm Thu 10 Jan 13
hasslem hasslem wrote:Truckload of safety barriers dropped off there this morning, starting to think this could be Blackburns biggest crowd of the season.
i have just spoken to woody and he is having the tickets printed for his creative arts dipslay at the town hall next friday.
adults only as the last time he bared his arse at the town hall a little kid asked mummy "what's that?" mummy replied "don't worry my love, it's like a p.enis, only smaller".
I hear the bookies are taking odds on what will be tattooed across both buttocks...!
padlebrfc
says...
10:46pm Thu 10 Jan 13
CheltRover wrote:Because I disagree with you and others on here doesn't mean I know little. I know how to support my team through thick and thin and not hang on every bullsh!t word the press prints.
padlebrfc wrote:If youd choose bowyer over Davies or odriscol then it shows how little you know. We need an experienced manager. Even bowyer knows he's not up to the job
Stone Island: wrote:Billy Davies and Sean O'Driscoll??? Don't make me laugh. Neither have the credentials to manage the Rovers unless we want to establish ourselves as a mediocre second rate side.
padlebrfc wrote:There are better managers out there, and out of work, with proper, proven, decent records in the Championship. Billy Davies and Sean O'Driscoll, to name but two.
Stone Island: wrote:Maybe so, but maybe Rovers are not the only club that tinker with the managers decisions and break promises. Appleton couldn't get out of Blackpool quick enough.
I think this pending appointment could make footballing history. Because i'd be amazed if any manager, had EVER been poached from another club, having won just TWO of his first 12 games in charge!
I will still support the manager if he only wins 2 out of his first 12 games at Ewood. A manager needs a lot more than 12 games to get a club working his own way. However, the spirit of the squad and with the players being on a high gives the new manager a better start than a majority of others out there. Bowyer will still be in charge for the Wolves game and I fancy us there then hand the reigns over to the new man. For me Bowyer would ideally go back to reserve team manager.
The players obviously had respect for, and were playing for GB. They will be dumbfounded at this appointment, and it could destroy morale and confidence among the players, at a crucial part of the season.
I'd rather they stuck with GB, than take a chance on this fella.
I too would have stuck with Bowyer but reading various message boards not many other 'fans' would have been suited to that decision and as soon as we started to drop points the usual suspects would have turned on him.
Bowyer never quoted he doesn't want the job or that he wasn't up to the job. He just got on with the job in hand.
Accy Phil
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10:54pm Thu 10 Jan 13
baldie
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10:56pm Thu 10 Jan 13
8 Ball Deluxe wrote:I don't know,is it something like David Moyes is a bad manager because his win ratio isn't as good as Mourinho's was at Chelsea?
baldie wrote:Its all on wikipedia as historical fact
8 Ball Deluxe wrote:What is all this win ratio bo11ocks?
Whilst I disagree with BRAG trying to stick the oar in, the appointment of appleton would be a mistake.
Steve Kean has a better win ratio at 28% and he got us relegated so what do you think would happen with a guy with a 23% win ratio?
Bad move just stick with Bowyer.
How can you possibly compare the opportunity Kean had at Rovers to the one Appleton had at Portsmouth?
If you have a manager with a 23% win ratio at the helm...... you will get relegated
Just as with Kean with a 28% win ratio we got relegated. There is nothing Bollax about simple maths, I take it maths wasn't your strongest subject?
So as appleton has a 23% win ratio which is worse than Keans 28% and we went down, guess what my next sentence is?
BlueSkies
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10:57pm Thu 10 Jan 13
At Pompey, it was Mission Impossible so nobody can really give a fair assessment of his ability to manage, coach and steer a club.
It might even be another Mission Impossible if the in-fighting in the 'corridors of power' at Ewood continue and he isn't given any proper support or backing.
I'm actually surprised anyone at all has stepped forward to take on this task, so good luck to him.
I'd now like some stability at the club, no more dramas for a while and for everyone to concentrate on the football for a change, but as we are in our 3rd year of turmoil and unrest I think that may yet be a tad optimistic.
8 Ball Deluxe
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11:02pm Thu 10 Jan 13
baldie wrote:No, moyes has a good win ratio at 44% which will keep you in a division, all I am saying is if you have a manger with a 23% win ratio, you get relegated, happens in any division you are in from premier league to unibond central.
8 Ball Deluxe wrote:I don't know,is it something like David Moyes is a bad manager because his win ratio isn't as good as Mourinho's was at Chelsea?
baldie wrote:Its all on wikipedia as historical fact
8 Ball Deluxe wrote:What is all this win ratio bo11ocks?
Whilst I disagree with BRAG trying to stick the oar in, the appointment of appleton would be a mistake.
Steve Kean has a better win ratio at 28% and he got us relegated so what do you think would happen with a guy with a 23% win ratio?
Bad move just stick with Bowyer.
How can you possibly compare the opportunity Kean had at Rovers to the one Appleton had at Portsmouth?
If you have a manager with a 23% win ratio at the helm...... you will get relegated
Just as with Kean with a 28% win ratio we got relegated. There is nothing Bollax about simple maths, I take it maths wasn't your strongest subject?
So as appleton has a 23% win ratio which is worse than Keans 28% and we went down, guess what my next sentence is?
8 Ball Deluxe
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11:08pm Thu 10 Jan 13
BlueSkies wrote:If they appoint him I will give him a shot and will support him just as I did Berg and Kean before him, but this guys record is worse than Bergs, even Bergs win ratio was 38% including Rovers matches so don't expect too much from him witha 23% win ratio, its even worse than Paul inces record who was 28% at Rovers so what I am saying is, its a bad appointment on paper.
Give the guy a chance. We have to, we don't actually have a say in the matter.
At Pompey, it was Mission Impossible so nobody can really give a fair assessment of his ability to manage, coach and steer a club.
It might even be another Mission Impossible if the in-fighting in the 'corridors of power' at Ewood continue and he isn't given any proper support or backing.
I'm actually surprised anyone at all has stepped forward to take on this task, so good luck to him.
I'd now like some stability at the club, no more dramas for a while and for everyone to concentrate on the football for a change, but as we are in our 3rd year of turmoil and unrest I think that may yet be a tad optimistic.
baldie
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11:09pm Thu 10 Jan 13
8 Ball Deluxe wrote:Read Bluekies above.
baldie wrote:No, moyes has a good win ratio at 44% which will keep you in a division, all I am saying is if you have a manger with a 23% win ratio, you get relegated, happens in any division you are in from premier league to unibond central.
8 Ball Deluxe wrote:I don't know,is it something like David Moyes is a bad manager because his win ratio isn't as good as Mourinho's was at Chelsea?
baldie wrote:Its all on wikipedia as historical fact
8 Ball Deluxe wrote:What is all this win ratio bo11ocks?
Whilst I disagree with BRAG trying to stick the oar in, the appointment of appleton would be a mistake.
Steve Kean has a better win ratio at 28% and he got us relegated so what do you think would happen with a guy with a 23% win ratio?
Bad move just stick with Bowyer.
How can you possibly compare the opportunity Kean had at Rovers to the one Appleton had at Portsmouth?
If you have a manager with a 23% win ratio at the helm...... you will get relegated
Just as with Kean with a 28% win ratio we got relegated. There is nothing Bollax about simple maths, I take it maths wasn't your strongest subject?
So as appleton has a 23% win ratio which is worse than Keans 28% and we went down, guess what my next sentence is?
For Appleton to have lost ony 27 out of 51 at Portsmouth with a team of YTS lads and players who weren't being paid obviously shows some ability.
In real terms,the 23% ratio is probably higher than Moyes'.
wilpshireover
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11:35pm Thu 10 Jan 13
Unless I have missed it, no-one has mentioned Ashley Westwoodbefore. Do you knowledgeable folks know anything about him? A coach maybe?
wilpshireover
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11:39pm Thu 10 Jan 13
whittaker0
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12:03am Fri 11 Jan 13
burnleyglentoran
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12:28am Fri 11 Jan 13
"Blackburn Rovers desperate to appoint new manager after disappointing run of victories"
BJ & AC
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12:53am Fri 11 Jan 13
padlebrfc wrote:Brag are becoming the laughing stock at Ewood,so far up Shaggy Stingys arse it unbelievable,I've heard that a protests against our NEW MANAGER MR APPLETON will start ASAP coz its a Shaw And Agnew appointment and not Shaggys, get a life BRAG away from our club and take the muppet Shaggy with you!!! RTSD
8 Ball Deluxe wrote:BRAG are as embarrassing as the Venky's.
fireonthemountain wrote:Interesting post although BRAG getting in bed with Shaggy is a massive own goal. I saw the interview when shaggy said pedersen was a pensioner and the BRAG monkeys sat there next to shaggy nodding at his every word.
From the BBC -
Blackburn fans have long been resigned to the chaos that has engulfed Ewood Park.
"It's gone way past being funny, the club has gone beyond being a laughing stock," says Simon Garner, Blackburn's all-time leading scorer.
"The problems are at the top of the club, they just don't know how to run a football club. I fear for the future the longer it goes on, I really do. It is hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel."
Two years with Venky's
•Nov 2010: Poultry giant Venky's became the first Indian company to own a Premier League club
•Dec 2010: Club's new owners sack popular manager Sam Allardyce with club 13th in Premier League
•Dec 2010: Steve Kean appointed temporary manager - later appointed full time
•Dec 2011: Supporters protest against the Venky's ownership
•Sept 2012: Kean resigns as manager after club is relegated in May
•Oct 2012: Henning Berg appointed and sacked within 57 days with club 17th in Championship
The approach for Blackpool manager Michael Appleton on Wednesday was, according to those close to the club, another example of a club lacking cohesion, clarity of thought and unity. Nothing is what it seems, confusion reigns and the divisions in the boardroom continue to undermine any hopes of finding success on the field.
On 3 January, Blackburn released a statement confirming caretaker manager Gary Bowyer had been placed in charge of the club until at least the end of January. On 9 January, Blackburn released a statement confirming they had made a formal approach for Appleton, which has now been accepted .
Bowyer was not contacted by the club to inform him of the development and found out just minutes before the news went public. Having led the club to three successive victories for the first time since September 2008 and restored harmony to a dressing room previously riven by cliques, Bowyer might have been surprised.
"I do feel for Gary Bowyer," Garner added. "He was given a guarantee and then for the club to be approaching another a manager a few days later is incredible. But it doesn't matter who you bring in, Venky's are in India and don't have a clue what they are doing day-to-day."
Blackburn's global advisor Shebby Singh knew nothing of the approach for Appleton. The man Venky's tasked with running the club on their behalf was left out of the loop on the issue, leaving his future role unclear. Three key board members are split into two clear factions with operations director Paul Agnew and managing director Derek Shaw on one side, and Singh on the other.
Hardly a word has been exchanged between Agnew and Shaw and the club's global advisor since the turn of the year. On New Year's Eve, one faction watched the victory over Nottingham Forest from the directors' box, while Singh opted to watch the match from a private box.
None of the three men wanted to comment when approached by the BBC.
There has been tension between the parties for some time, dating back to Singh's arrival and the subsequent dismissal of manager Steve Kean. On 28 December, Shaw and Agnew flew to India to hold talks with Venky's in Pune. Both men voiced their concerns about a range of issues, including the role of Singh, and pushed to see an experienced manager appointed after Henning Berg's failure.
Michael Appleton - the manager
•Took charge of West Brom for one game in February 2011
•Appointed Portsmouth boss in November 2011
•Pompey record - P51 W13 D11 L27
•Appointed Blackpool boss November 2012
•Blackpool record - P12 W2 D8 L2
A club source claimed Agnew and Shaw had in fact been summoned to India by the owners and that their own positions could even be in doubt. Not for the first time, confusion reigned.
The divisions in the Ewood boardroom were also a key factor in the prolonged search to replace Kean. Shaw and Agnew met with Blackpool manager Ian Holloway, while Singh pursued Tim Sherwood.
When Berg was presented as manager, Shaw was quick to insist the appointment had been Singh's and Singh's alone. History will show, it was to prove a damaging and expensive mistake for Rovers. But with the club winning matches and the players happy with the leadership of Bowyer, the ripples are back.
On Thursday, Blackburn Rovers Action Group released a statement. "Internal power struggles have become far more important ," it read.
"While one man has tried to pull the club off the floor others in the board room have turned the club into a national laughing stock by undermining him… personality clashes are being prioritised over the best interests of the football club, it appears contradictory messages and statements add to the pantomime."
What Blackburn fans will find hardest to fathom is why the club is back in the news for the wrong reasons, just as matters on the field have, for the first time this season, settled down.
The players have enjoyed life under Bowyer and a number of them are understood to have expressed their anger at the way the caretaker manager has been treated when informed of the club's latest manoeuvrings on Thursday. The misinformation and confused statements, committing to Bowyer one day before approaching another manager six days later, have left staff, players and fans bewildered.
"As a player you just try to keep your head down and ignore what is happening off the field but it isn't easy with the club making the wrong sort of headlines time and time again," Garner said. "Is Michael Appleton the right man for the job? I don't know. But I have been on the internet today and I see he has a worse win percentage than Steve Kean and he is not the experienced name the fans want so he is on a hiding to nothing from the start."
There are suggestions the power struggle is coming to an end. Now the hope from the supporters is a return to harmony on and off the field, whoever is left standing at the end of the battle. Venky's have risked much to bankroll a push for an immediate return to the Premier League. Kean was allowed to invest more than £15m in transfer fees during the summer, paying a club record fee for Jordan Rhodes.
Failure to get back to the top flight at the first time of asking would increase the financial pressure on the club. Another battle looms and it is one Blackburn could do without. The club badge may hold the answer, at the base of it lie the words 'arte et labore' - by skill and by labour.
The hard work begins now.
Shaggy after all is the same guy who said giggs should play centre half and steven gerrards best position was right back. Not to mention last weeks bizarre interview where he said we had just won six points and eveyone who phoned up was called Robbie.
BRAG out you've backed the wrong halfwit still two halfwitts make a whole as they say.
stefjam
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2:19am Fri 11 Jan 13
stefjam
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2:23am Fri 11 Jan 13
burnleyglentoran wrote:did you make that up urself or quote all my postings from spoofnews? come on 6fingers be original... move to Ireland & smash up yer own town... hahha already done that ! who smashes up there own town, Burnley ! nuff said
Headlines on the front page of the Burnley Express -
"Blackburn Rovers desperate to appoint new manager after disappointing run of victories"
eddie the eagle
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2:32am Fri 11 Jan 13
French Rover
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6:49am Fri 11 Jan 13
baldie wrote:Good point Baldie......the statistics don't show the real story. Portsmouth fans said that situation was so bad that they were amazed that Appleton put a team out some weeks and many of them took their boots down to matches.
8 Ball Deluxe wrote:Read Bluekies above.
baldie wrote:No, moyes has a good win ratio at 44% which will keep you in a division, all I am saying is if you have a manger with a 23% win ratio, you get relegated, happens in any division you are in from premier league to unibond central.
8 Ball Deluxe wrote:I don't know,is it something like David Moyes is a bad manager because his win ratio isn't as good as Mourinho's was at Chelsea?
baldie wrote:Its all on wikipedia as historical fact
8 Ball Deluxe wrote:What is all this win ratio bo11ocks?
Whilst I disagree with BRAG trying to stick the oar in, the appointment of appleton would be a mistake.
Steve Kean has a better win ratio at 28% and he got us relegated so what do you think would happen with a guy with a 23% win ratio?
Bad move just stick with Bowyer.
How can you possibly compare the opportunity Kean had at Rovers to the one Appleton had at Portsmouth?
If you have a manager with a 23% win ratio at the helm...... you will get relegated
Just as with Kean with a 28% win ratio we got relegated. There is nothing Bollax about simple maths, I take it maths wasn't your strongest subject?
So as appleton has a 23% win ratio which is worse than Keans 28% and we went down, guess what my next sentence is?
For Appleton to have lost ony 27 out of 51 at Portsmouth with a team of YTS lads and players who weren't being paid obviously shows some ability.
In real terms,the 23% ratio is probably higher than Moyes'.
I think it was Mark Twain that said there are Lies, Damned Lies and Statistics Sometimes you have to look beyond the stats to get to the truth. This is for sure one of those times. Welcome to Ewood MA..
maltaman
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6:52am Fri 11 Jan 13
McRover
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7:33am Fri 11 Jan 13
burnleyglentoran wrote:The "Headline" on the front of the Burnle Express is about Blackburn Rovers ??
Headlines on the front page of the Burnley Express -
"Blackburn Rovers desperate to appoint new manager after disappointing run of victories"
The Burnley press are obviously as obsessed with Rovers as the fans are.
McRover
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7:37am Fri 11 Jan 13
wilpshireover wrote:Does anybody actually believe that "talks" haven't been held before an approach was made to Blackpool. This was a done deal days ago.
The Rovers website says they have permission to interview Michael Appleton and Ashley Westwood.
Unless I have missed it, no-one has mentioned Ashley Westwoodbefore. Do you knowledgeable folks know anything about him? A coach maybe?
edmy
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7:56am Fri 11 Jan 13
Appleton has agreed a two-and-a-half-year deal, worth up to £500,000-a-year, to become Blackburn’s new manager as the boardroom divisions at Ewood Park were finally solved on Thursday night. So much for the short term contract that was supposedly going to be on offer. I have said it before and I'll say it again they used to be indecisive down at Ewood but now they are not so sure. One thing is for sure though we need to get behind Appleton. The moaning needs to stop. Any protests at all should be aimed at the Hierarchy. We need to get behind the manager and players 100%
hasslem hasslem
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7:56am Fri 11 Jan 13
eddie the eagle wrote:rumour has it that he has a nipple tatoo'd on each buttock - every time he scratches his arse he feels a right t.it
H H I'm thinking of popping over to Blackburn for Woody's performance,can you suggest where I could park my bike.
BlueSkies
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9:01am Fri 11 Jan 13
Can anyone confirm? And that Singh, Shaw and Agnew had no say?
100%RoverVenkysOut
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1:07pm Fri 11 Jan 13
From the disgusting and disrespectful treatment of long serving players and even longer serving (and on the whole first class) backroom/boardroom staff, to the employing and promoting of the odious, back stabbing, lying, tactically vacant K***, not forgetting the endless stream of lies and ridiculous, deeply embarrassing statements (on the rare occurrence one was made) from the V...V...V...VENKYS (sorry, difficult to even write that name). Our club was once one of the most respected and well run in the country, fact. The Jack Walker Trust and Premier League should hang their head in shame at the betrayal of Uncle Jack's legacy. John Williams, no matter how much I want him back, should also take some responsibility. A few simple questions to the Venky's during the takeover surely would have set off enough alarm bells to prevent this tragedy taking place, eg "Rao, can a team be relegated from the premier league?"
I knew we were in SERIOUS trouble within approx. 4 months of Venkys takeover when I heard Her Ladyshi* (you choose final letter) responding to criticism of them in an interview on the radio: "people have been critical saying that I've never been to a live game. While that is true, I am a good listener"!!!! WHAT!!??!!
Andy, I think you're articles have never been overly negative. You seem to be the one voice in the media that's nearly realistic and aware enough of the whole situation. I don't mean that as a slight, I just think we, the fans, need someone in the media to really rip the lid of this festering pot of cockroaches and expose them for the scumbags they are. I think it would make an incredible Panorama episode, but of course the southern based media couldn't actually give 2 hoots and will only generally write to be critical of the people who matter the most, the fans (and I say that as someone who's born and raised in Oxfordshire).
The action group and the media really need to get a proper strategy together to oust Venkys once and for all, not suck up to Shebby because he actually speaks to the fans (90% utter nonsense, but still the only one to apologise for ANYTHING that they've done). He seems to only have the job of Global-Utter-Meaning
less-Title because he's apparently been a fan for a number of years...well so has my uncle Graham, and he would be a million times better at ANY job on the board than Venkys/Singh.
The manager situation for instance, how hard is it to understand...GET A MANAGER WITH PROPER EXPERIENCE, LEARN FROM AT LEAST ONE OF YOUR MISTAKES. But, no, there will be no lessons learnt. We'll **** money up the wall on Scumbag K***, but we won't shell out 2mill for Gus Poyet. We won't approach Alan Curbishley, O'Driscoll, managers who've got experiance and ARE OUT OF WORK! No, we'll go after yet another unproven manager...Literally nothing surprises me at MY/OUR club anymore.
I wish I could see an end to it, but while these "people" "run" our club, I can only see a Portsmouth or even Rangers situation on the horizon...and the worst part is that by that point their behavior and treatment of human beings will have **** off so many people that no one, outside of the fans, will care.
Andy, is there something we can do to get someone to truly look into what's going on behind the scenes? Raise media/public awareness to the fact that this isn't the fans fault, that one of the historically important clubs in England is being decimated, and that no one is doing anything to help us.
Thank you for your articles, don't back away from the good fight, attack!
ChrisDeBerg
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1:30pm Fri 11 Jan 13
J.C - Rishton wrote:I think Billy Davis was a much more suitable appointment! Every club he's managed he has done well with. Given the chance, I recon he would have been our best chance to go back up this season... But then the Venky's are in charge!
I don't know why Rovers are so negative about him, personally I think its a reasonably good appointment.
1 - He's worked under RH and R DiM - two great people to learn from.
2 - He's worked at Pompy so he's just about the most experienced young manager who's worked at a club that is imploding.
3 - He did a good job at Pompey whilst having to sell ALL of his players (don't just look at his win/lose ratio - thats too simplistic - look how Pompys results have now totally collapsed since he has left.
4 - His results at Blackpool havnt been great but 12 games is too low a number to statistically see how he is (turn 2 of them draws into wins and he'd have done quite well - thats why 12 is too low a number to judge him on).
5 - Rovers are losing £2m per month, we need a manager who can get reasonably good results whilst continually losing his best and most experienced players - THIS IS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN at BRFC over the next 12 months - get used to it - he has experience at handling this type of situation at Pompy.
6 - To all those (majority) who are moaning about his appointment - who else would take the job ?
Pep G ? - I know he said he was ready to resume work but I don't think he had East Lancs in mind !
Mark Hughes - Has given no indication about wanting the job. Would MH really put up with the Venkys and SS ?
Billy Davies - Personally I thought he would be great but most on here didnt want him either.
Phil Brown - Have they really let this guy out on day release from the loony bin ?
Peter Taylor - Please God no !
OGS - Why would he work for the "Loones from Pune" when he can have his pick of jobs ?
Karl Robinson - Most Rovers fans don't want him because of his "lack of experience".
Sean O'Driscol - would have probably been a good shout but most on here would say he "wasnt a big enough name to manage us".
If MA gets the job then us fans have to give him the benefit of the doubt and get fully behind him - we need him here for the medium/longterm - 5 managers in 5 months is bordering on the ridiculous !
I think this is definitely a Shaw decision, due to past relationships, which to me makes Shaw as bad as Shatty!
Still, he has my 100% until further notice.
RTID
noddy57
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1:31pm Fri 11 Jan 13
trueblueaccy wrote:go on then you mug, do you like wasting your money on the venkys ill advised buisness venture ? what does it take for morons like you to wake up and realise that your football club is being bled dry by incompetant fools,,come on are you totally thick?
noddy57 wrote:Get a life u sad ****-like the rest of the whingers on here get down Ewood and get behind whoever is the next manager and let's go forward for once. All you're doin is makin the situation worse!!!
right you people of ewood,we now have no alternative but to vote with our feet on mass, this latest comedy of errors just cannot be accepted by the supporters of blackburn rovers,li you dont take this action right now then you do not have the rovers in your heart,,enough is enough,
noddy57
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1:52pm Fri 11 Jan 13
trueblueaccy wrote:go on then you mug, do you like wasting your money on the venkys ill advised buisness venture ? what does it take for morons like you to wake up and realise that your football club is being bled dry by incompetant fools,,come on are you totally thick?
noddy57 wrote:Get a life u sad ****-like the rest of the whingers on here get down Ewood and get behind whoever is the next manager and let's go forward for once. All you're doin is makin the situation worse!!!
right you people of ewood,we now have no alternative but to vote with our feet on mass, this latest comedy of errors just cannot be accepted by the supporters of blackburn rovers,li you dont take this action right now then you do not have the rovers in your heart,,enough is enough,
noddy57
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1:53pm Fri 11 Jan 13
trueblueaccy wrote:go on then you mug, do you like wasting your money on the venkys ill advised buisness venture ? what does it take for morons like you to wake up and realise that your football club is being bled dry by incompetant fools,,come on are you totally thick?
noddy57 wrote:Get a life u sad ****-like the rest of the whingers on here get down Ewood and get behind whoever is the next manager and let's go forward for once. All you're doin is makin the situation worse!!!
right you people of ewood,we now have no alternative but to vote with our feet on mass, this latest comedy of errors just cannot be accepted by the supporters of blackburn rovers,li you dont take this action right now then you do not have the rovers in your heart,,enough is enough,
noddy57
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1:53pm Fri 11 Jan 13
trueblueaccy wrote:go on then you mug, do you like wasting your money on the venkys ill advised buisness venture ? what does it take for morons like you to wake up and realise that your football club is being bled dry by incompetant fools,,come on are you totally thick?
noddy57 wrote:Get a life u sad ****-like the rest of the whingers on here get down Ewood and get behind whoever is the next manager and let's go forward for once. All you're doin is makin the situation worse!!!
right you people of ewood,we now have no alternative but to vote with our feet on mass, this latest comedy of errors just cannot be accepted by the supporters of blackburn rovers,li you dont take this action right now then you do not have the rovers in your heart,,enough is enough,
noddy57
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1:53pm Fri 11 Jan 13
trueblueaccy wrote:go on then you mug, do you like wasting your money on the venkys ill advised buisness venture ? what does it take for morons like you to wake up and realise that your football club is being bled dry by incompetant fools,,come on are you totally thick?
noddy57 wrote:Get a life u sad ****-like the rest of the whingers on here get down Ewood and get behind whoever is the next manager and let's go forward for once. All you're doin is makin the situation worse!!!
right you people of ewood,we now have no alternative but to vote with our feet on mass, this latest comedy of errors just cannot be accepted by the supporters of blackburn rovers,li you dont take this action right now then you do not have the rovers in your heart,,enough is enough,
noddy57
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1:53pm Fri 11 Jan 13
trueblueaccy wrote:go on then you mug, do you like wasting your money on the venkys ill advised buisness venture ? what does it take for morons like you to wake up and realise that your football club is being bled dry by incompetant fools,,come on are you totally thick?
noddy57 wrote:Get a life u sad ****-like the rest of the whingers on here get down Ewood and get behind whoever is the next manager and let's go forward for once. All you're doin is makin the situation worse!!!
right you people of ewood,we now have no alternative but to vote with our feet on mass, this latest comedy of errors just cannot be accepted by the supporters of blackburn rovers,li you dont take this action right now then you do not have the rovers in your heart,,enough is enough,
noddy57
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1:55pm Fri 11 Jan 13
trueblueaccy wrote:go on then you mug, do you like wasting your money on the venkys ill advised buisness venture ? what does it take for morons like you to wake up and realise that your football club is being bled dry by incompetant fools,,come on are you totally thick?
noddy57 wrote:Get a life u sad ****-like the rest of the whingers on here get down Ewood and get behind whoever is the next manager and let's go forward for once. All you're doin is makin the situation worse!!!
right you people of ewood,we now have no alternative but to vote with our feet on mass, this latest comedy of errors just cannot be accepted by the supporters of blackburn rovers,li you dont take this action right now then you do not have the rovers in your heart,,enough is enough,
noddy57
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1:55pm Fri 11 Jan 13
trueblueaccy wrote:go on then you mug, do you like wasting your money on the venkys ill advised buisness venture ? what does it take for morons like you to wake up and realise that your football club is being bled dry by incompetant fools,,come on are you totally thick?
noddy57 wrote:Get a life u sad ****-like the rest of the whingers on here get down Ewood and get behind whoever is the next manager and let's go forward for once. All you're doin is makin the situation worse!!!
right you people of ewood,we now have no alternative but to vote with our feet on mass, this latest comedy of errors just cannot be accepted by the supporters of blackburn rovers,li you dont take this action right now then you do not have the rovers in your heart,,enough is enough,
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2:13pm Fri 11 Jan 13
srvp28 wrote:Didn't say I was told by a "friend" did I ? Funny how people have to resort to abuse when they hear something they don't like.
McRover wrote:Ah, the old 'friend in the business' routine strikes again. You're full of sh*t pal. What's next week's conspiracy theory, Jerome Anderson's dad owned the sound stage where they faked the moon landing? Or perhaps Elvis is alive and well, and working as a caretaker in SEM's headquarters?
J.C - Rishton wrote:I'm just telling you what I have been told by someone who works in profesional football who I believe. Whether you believe it or not is up to you pal.
McRover wrote:Thats an interesting statement you just made.
J.C - Rishton wrote:Agnew and Shaw travel to India and are picked up at the airport by a certain agent (JA) and have meeting with Venkys. Both these two are associated with Kentaro/SEM as were part of team Kean. Last weekend MA parted company with his management company and signed on with Kentaro. You can see where this is going can't you ,,,,,,,,,
I don't know why Rovers are so negative about him, personally I think its a reasonably good appointment.
1 - He's worked under RH and R DiM - two great people to learn from.
2 - He's worked at Pompy so he's just about the most experienced young manager who's worked at a club that is imploding.
3 - He did a good job at Pompey whilst having to sell ALL of his players (don't just look at his win/lose ratio - thats too simplistic - look how Pompys results have now totally collapsed since he has left.
4 - His results at Blackpool havnt been great but 12 games is too low a number to statistically see how he is (turn 2 of them draws into wins and he'd have done quite well - thats why 12 is too low a number to judge him on).
5 - Rovers are losing £2m per month, we need a manager who can get reasonably good results whilst continually losing his best and most experienced players - THIS IS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN at BRFC over the next 12 months - get used to it - he has experience at handling this type of situation at Pompy.
6 - To all those (majority) who are moaning about his appointment - who else would take the job ?
Pep G ? - I know he said he was ready to resume work but I don't think he had East Lancs in mind !
Mark Hughes - Has given no indication about wanting the job. Would MH really put up with the Venkys and SS ?
Billy Davies - Personally I thought he would be great but most on here didnt want him either.
Phil Brown - Have they really let this guy out on day release from the loony bin ?
Peter Taylor - Please God no !
OGS - Why would he work for the "Loones from Pune" when he can have his pick of jobs ?
Karl Robinson - Most Rovers fans don't want him because of his "lack of experience".
Sean O'Driscol - would have probably been a good shout but most on here would say he "wasnt a big enough name to manage us".
If MA gets the job then us fans have to give him the benefit of the doubt and get fully behind him - we need him here for the medium/longterm - 5 managers in 5 months is bordering on the ridiculous !
I also believe that JA has a financial stake in this club but where is your proof that -
1 - PA and DS met with JA in India before going onto Venkys.
2 - MA last week sacked his own agent and signed on with JA.
I'd love Andy Cryer to ask him at his press conference if it was true but somehow I'll bet he doesn't.
Unless you've got actual proof that you're willing to share with your fellow supporters I suggest you let this whole obsession with Anderson and his company go. It got boring a long time ago.
Let me ask you this then .... Andy Cryer on Talksport had just said his information is that Appleton was not introduced by Shaw and that his appointment was directly through Venkys. Now my question to you is who could have directed Venkys to Appleton if it was not Shaw, Agnew or Singh ? It must be obvious even to you pal.
srvp28
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3:54pm Fri 11 Jan 13
McRover wrote:Firstly, pal, it's logical to assume that the person who told you is a friend. Why else would they divulge that information to you otherwise? Secondly, it wasn't 'abuse', I just said you're full of sh*t because you were spouting off about Jerome Anderson picking up Shaw and Agnew from the airport in India. Unless you're stalking them you couldn't possibly know that. Thirdly, you say that this introduction is nothing to do with Shaw, and you're obviously leaning towards the Jerome Anderson connection. Surely that contradicts your theory about Shaw and Anderson sneaking around in India together?
srvp28 wrote:Didn't say I was told by a "friend" did I ? Funny how people have to resort to abuse when they hear something they don't like.
McRover wrote:Ah, the old 'friend in the business' routine strikes again. You're full of sh*t pal. What's next week's conspiracy theory, Jerome Anderson's dad owned the sound stage where they faked the moon landing? Or perhaps Elvis is alive and well, and working as a caretaker in SEM's headquarters?
J.C - Rishton wrote:I'm just telling you what I have been told by someone who works in profesional football who I believe. Whether you believe it or not is up to you pal.
McRover wrote:Thats an interesting statement you just made.
J.C - Rishton wrote:Agnew and Shaw travel to India and are picked up at the airport by a certain agent (JA) and have meeting with Venkys. Both these two are associated with Kentaro/SEM as were part of team Kean. Last weekend MA parted company with his management company and signed on with Kentaro. You can see where this is going can't you ,,,,,,,,,
I don't know why Rovers are so negative about him, personally I think its a reasonably good appointment.
1 - He's worked under RH and R DiM - two great people to learn from.
2 - He's worked at Pompy so he's just about the most experienced young manager who's worked at a club that is imploding.
3 - He did a good job at Pompey whilst having to sell ALL of his players (don't just look at his win/lose ratio - thats too simplistic - look how Pompys results have now totally collapsed since he has left.
4 - His results at Blackpool havnt been great but 12 games is too low a number to statistically see how he is (turn 2 of them draws into wins and he'd have done quite well - thats why 12 is too low a number to judge him on).
5 - Rovers are losing £2m per month, we need a manager who can get reasonably good results whilst continually losing his best and most experienced players - THIS IS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN at BRFC over the next 12 months - get used to it - he has experience at handling this type of situation at Pompy.
6 - To all those (majority) who are moaning about his appointment - who else would take the job ?
Pep G ? - I know he said he was ready to resume work but I don't think he had East Lancs in mind !
Mark Hughes - Has given no indication about wanting the job. Would MH really put up with the Venkys and SS ?
Billy Davies - Personally I thought he would be great but most on here didnt want him either.
Phil Brown - Have they really let this guy out on day release from the loony bin ?
Peter Taylor - Please God no !
OGS - Why would he work for the "Loones from Pune" when he can have his pick of jobs ?
Karl Robinson - Most Rovers fans don't want him because of his "lack of experience".
Sean O'Driscol - would have probably been a good shout but most on here would say he "wasnt a big enough name to manage us".
If MA gets the job then us fans have to give him the benefit of the doubt and get fully behind him - we need him here for the medium/longterm - 5 managers in 5 months is bordering on the ridiculous !
I also believe that JA has a financial stake in this club but where is your proof that -
1 - PA and DS met with JA in India before going onto Venkys.
2 - MA last week sacked his own agent and signed on with JA.
I'd love Andy Cryer to ask him at his press conference if it was true but somehow I'll bet he doesn't.
Unless you've got actual proof that you're willing to share with your fellow supporters I suggest you let this whole obsession with Anderson and his company go. It got boring a long time ago.
Let me ask you this then .... Andy Cryer on Talksport had just said his information is that Appleton was not introduced by Shaw and that his appointment was directly through Venkys. Now my question to you is who could have directed Venkys to Appleton if it was not Shaw, Agnew or Singh ? It must be obvious even to you pal.
Until I hear it from a reliable source - not one of Glen Mullan's puppets like yourself - I'll refrain from jumping on the 'there's something fishy going on' bandwagon. Even then I doubt I'd give myself a coronary over it, it's not like Venky's are EVER going to listen to organisations like BRAG.
noddy57
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11:55pm Fri 11 Jan 13

willhelmrover98 says...
5:34pm Thu 10 Jan 13