Henley on the sidelines, but Orr unlikely to return to Rovers (From Lancashire Telegraph)

A Darener wrote:
Apology to Sam Alladyce from the owners on Rovers web site. Totally inadequate response to the disgraceful events in Hong Kong by Steve Kean.

MikeD wrote:

A Darener wrote:
Apology to Sam Alladyce from the owners on Rovers web site. Totally inadequate response to the disgraceful events in Hong Kong by Steve Kean.

Disgraceful events? Come on, get a little perspective. He said Allardyce was a crook - he isn't the first person to claim it. Disgraceful was that somebody filmed a private conversation and released it onto the internet. Disgraceful is that Allardyce then sued the club (seriously - because someone called him a crook? Grow a thicker skin, man!). The club then had to pay 200K to get him to drop his frivolous lawsuit. That money comes from the supporters pockets - that's more than the gate receipts from one game.

MikeD wrote:

A Darener wrote:
Apology to Sam Alladyce from the owners on Rovers web site. Totally inadequate response to the disgraceful events in Hong Kong by Steve Kean.

Disgraceful events? Come on, get a little perspective. He said Allardyce was a crook - he isn't the first person to claim it. Disgraceful was that somebody filmed a private conversation and released it onto the internet. Disgraceful is that Allardyce then sued the club (seriously - because someone called him a crook? Grow a thicker skin, man!). The club then had to pay 200K to get him to drop his frivolous lawsuit. That money comes from the supporters pockets - that's more than the gate receipts from one game.

A Darener wrote:
Apology to Sam Alladyce from the owners on Rovers web site. Totally inadequate response to the disgraceful events in Hong Kong by Steve Kean.

MikeD wrote:

A Darener wrote:
Apology to Sam Alladyce from the owners on Rovers web site. Totally inadequate response to the disgraceful events in Hong Kong by Steve Kean.

Disgraceful events? Come on, get a little perspective. He said Allardyce was a crook - he isn't the first person to claim it. Disgraceful was that somebody filmed a private conversation and released it onto the internet. Disgraceful is that Allardyce then sued the club (seriously - because someone called him a crook? Grow a thicker skin, man!). The club then had to pay 200K to get him to drop his frivolous lawsuit. That money comes from the supporters pockets - that's more than the gate receipts from one game.

walshy2866 wrote:
Owners plans are kicking in. Get rid of all the experienced players on higher wages and use academy kids. Virtually slave labour, these lads will be on a pittance. Compare the wages for these positions:-
Salgado v Henley
Robinson v Jake Kean
Olson v Ryan Taylor
Nzonzi/ Jones v Lowe
Nelson/Samba/Givet v Hanley
Emerton v Josh King

They must have saved MILLIONS (and made £27m on Jones & Samba) with this, but we end up with a thread bare squad, no cover for injury & kids desperate for recognition or their "big chance" willing to be part of it.
I've said for a long time they're running the club like a corner shop. Is it just me that can see the similarities?

walshy2866 wrote:
Owners plans are kicking in. Get rid of all the experienced players on higher wages and use academy kids. Virtually slave labour, these lads will be on a pittance. Compare the wages for these positions:-
Salgado v Henley
Robinson v Jake Kean
Olson v Ryan Taylor
Nzonzi/ Jones v Lowe
Nelson/Samba/Givet v Hanley
Emerton v Josh King

They must have saved MILLIONS (and made £27m on Jones & Samba) with this, but we end up with a thread bare squad, no cover for injury & kids desperate for recognition or their "big chance" willing to be part of it.
I've said for a long time they're running the club like a corner shop. Is it just me that can see the similarities?

whittleblue wrote:
I see that Myles has now turned up at Exeter City "We've seen Myles play and there's a lot of potential there. He's a talented and bright individual," Exeter boss Paul Tisdale

walshy2866 wrote:
Owners plans are kicking in. Get rid of all the experienced players on higher wages and use academy kids. Virtually slave labour, these lads will be on a pittance. Compare the wages for these positions:-
Salgado v Henley
Robinson v Jake Kean
Olson v Ryan Taylor
Nzonzi/ Jones v Lowe
Nelson/Samba/Givet v Hanley
Emerton v Josh King

They must have saved MILLIONS (and made £27m on Jones & Samba) with this, but we end up with a thread bare squad, no cover for injury & kids desperate for recognition or their "big chance" willing to be part of it.
I've said for a long time they're running the club like a corner shop. Is it just me that can see the similarities?

brown cow warrior wrote:

MikeD wrote:

A Darener wrote: Apology to Sam Alladyce from the owners on Rovers web site. Totally inadequate response to the disgraceful events in Hong Kong by Steve Kean.

Disgraceful events? Come on, get a little perspective. He said Allardyce was a crook - he isn't the first person to claim it. Disgraceful was that somebody filmed a private conversation and released it onto the internet. Disgraceful is that Allardyce then sued the club (seriously - because someone called him a crook? Grow a thicker skin, man!). The club then had to pay 200K to get him to drop his frivolous lawsuit. That money comes from the supporters pockets - that's more than the gate receipts from one game.

If it was 'frivolous' then why did people who are known for being 'careful' with their money cough up a reported£200K to avoid going to court? Maybe they knew that the courts wouldn't take the same view that you do. Hopefully it will teach a certain somebody to button it in future.

Is Eckersley playing? wrote:

walshy2866 wrote:
Owners plans are kicking in. Get rid of all the experienced players on higher wages and use academy kids. Virtually slave labour, these lads will be on a pittance. Compare the wages for these positions:-
Salgado v Henley
Robinson v Jake Kean
Olson v Ryan Taylor
Nzonzi/ Jones v Lowe
Nelson/Samba/Givet v Hanley
Emerton v Josh King

They must have saved MILLIONS (and made £27m on Jones & Samba) with this, but we end up with a thread bare squad, no cover for injury & kids desperate for recognition or their "big chance" willing to be part of it.
I've said for a long time they're running the club like a corner shop. Is it just me that can see the similarities?

Not at all. I've been saying it for months but get slagged off as a doom-monger.Welcome aboard, Walshy - and don't go to Ewood till these bloody toss-pots have left. We can then pick up the pieces and start again.

Rover Pete wrote:
Onwards and downwards. I said in August that League1 was more likely than a return to the Prem. I still think so. At every opportunity the Venky's will cut the wages bill and the size of the squad and sell any player who is up to the job. They will not appoint another manager as it would mean they would have to give him money to build a better squad. Singh is doing, for Venky's, a first class job. Venky's will leave when they have taken the last bit of profit out of the club and left a worthless shell. It will be many years, even after they have left, before we can hope to rise again from this mess.

MikeD wrote:

A Darener wrote: Apology to Sam Alladyce from the owners on Rovers web site. Totally inadequate response to the disgraceful events in Hong Kong by Steve Kean.

Disgraceful events? Come on, get a little perspective. He said Allardyce was a crook - he isn't the first person to claim it. Disgraceful was that somebody filmed a private conversation and released it onto the internet. Disgraceful is that Allardyce then sued the club (seriously - because someone called him a crook? Grow a thicker skin, man!). The club then had to pay 200K to get him to drop his frivolous lawsuit. That money comes from the supporters pockets - that's more than the gate receipts from one game.

Keen O to Get Kean Out wrote:

MikeD wrote:

A Darener wrote: Apology to Sam Alladyce from the owners on Rovers web site. Totally inadequate response to the disgraceful events in Hong Kong by Steve Kean.

Disgraceful events? Come on, get a little perspective. He said Allardyce was a crook - he isn't the first person to claim it. Disgraceful was that somebody filmed a private conversation and released it onto the internet. Disgraceful is that Allardyce then sued the club (seriously - because someone called him a crook? Grow a thicker skin, man!). The club then had to pay 200K to get him to drop his frivolous lawsuit. That money comes from the supporters pockets - that's more than the gate receipts from one game.

i agree, Sam Kean Berg most players Anderson and Shabby are all in this for there own pockets and nothing else, why then do our owners not listen and talk to the loyal fans,amazing

earwego wrote:
Its about time Venky's gave us fans an apology for wrecking a great club and allowing that football genius Shebby with his great football knowledge, the chance to show how a football club could be run into the ground. The chickens and the snake,what a pair of shysters. Bowyer you need to prove your worth,gain experience of managing,then get the hell out of this cesspit. Don't let them take you down with the club. Good luck mate.

midas wrote:

brown cow warrior wrote:

MikeD wrote:

A Darener wrote: Apology to Sam Alladyce from the owners on Rovers web site. Totally inadequate response to the disgraceful events in Hong Kong by Steve Kean.

Disgraceful events? Come on, get a little perspective. He said Allardyce was a crook - he isn't the first person to claim it. Disgraceful was that somebody filmed a private conversation and released it onto the internet. Disgraceful is that Allardyce then sued the club (seriously - because someone called him a crook? Grow a thicker skin, man!). The club then had to pay 200K to get him to drop his frivolous lawsuit. That money comes from the supporters pockets - that's more than the gate receipts from one game.

If it was 'frivolous' then why did people who are known for being 'careful' with their money cough up a reported£200K to avoid going to court? Maybe they knew that the courts wouldn't take the same view that you do. Hopefully it will teach a certain somebody to button it in future.

Because it would cost more in lawyers fees for Rovers to continue to contest it. £15,000 to SA and costs which will not be more than a few letters, phone calls, attendance with client and perhaps advice from Counsel - say £50k tops!!
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Why Rovers feel the need to apologise when Kean was quite clearly on "a frolic of his own" and was talking in a private capacity, I don't know. I can't see how they are vicariously liable, at that time, for what Kean said.
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As for Kean, he was only repeating what many others have said (falsley) after viewing the Panorama programme.
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The people that should be liable are the ones that published the film in the first place. They are the ones that spread the defamation from a small group of individuals in Hong Kong to a worldwide audience on the web. Did this publication have any effect on Keans job? -No. Has it had an adverse effect on Rovers? - yes!

tmonty wrote:
Looks like Nelsen heading off to Canada finally - http://www.independe

nt.ie/breaking-news/

sport/nelsen-set-for

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ml

Least we won't have to watch him every week doing what he should have been doing for us. What a legend.

French Rover wrote:

Keen O to Get Kean Out wrote:

MikeD wrote:

A Darener wrote: Apology to Sam Alladyce from the owners on Rovers web site. Totally inadequate response to the disgraceful events in Hong Kong by Steve Kean.

Disgraceful events? Come on, get a little perspective. He said Allardyce was a crook - he isn't the first person to claim it. Disgraceful was that somebody filmed a private conversation and released it onto the internet. Disgraceful is that Allardyce then sued the club (seriously - because someone called him a crook? Grow a thicker skin, man!). The club then had to pay 200K to get him to drop his frivolous lawsuit. That money comes from the supporters pockets - that's more than the gate receipts from one game.

i agree, Sam Kean Berg most players Anderson and Shabby are all in this for there own pockets and nothing else, why then do our owners not listen and talk to the loyal fans,amazing

agreed but its not just the Rovers that are like this...there are an awful lot of clubs out there run equally as bad (some worse) that we are....no consolation for us in that I know but seems its the way forward for the majority of clubs these days. Like it or lump it lads.

hasslem hasslem wrote:

French Rover wrote:

Keen O to Get Kean Out wrote:

MikeD wrote:

A Darener wrote: Apology to Sam Alladyce from the owners on Rovers web site. Totally inadequate response to the disgraceful events in Hong Kong by Steve Kean.

Disgraceful events? Come on, get a little perspective. He said Allardyce was a crook - he isn't the first person to claim it. Disgraceful was that somebody filmed a private conversation and released it onto the internet. Disgraceful is that Allardyce then sued the club (seriously - because someone called him a crook? Grow a thicker skin, man!). The club then had to pay 200K to get him to drop his frivolous lawsuit. That money comes from the supporters pockets - that's more than the gate receipts from one game.

i agree, Sam Kean Berg most players Anderson and Shabby are all in this for there own pockets and nothing else, why then do our owners not listen and talk to the loyal fans,amazing

agreed but its not just the Rovers that are like this...there are an awful lot of clubs out there run equally as bad (some worse) that we are....no consolation for us in that I know but seems its the way forward for the majority of clubs these days. Like it or lump it lads.

really frenchie? as badly run as us?

cant think of any that has gone from being a model of stability to total chaos in the space of a season.

pompey and leeds yes.....but their own particular tower of babel developed over several seasons - and like him or loathe him (and i loathe him) cuddly ken was slowly sorting the dirties out.

the only club which i see currently compares to rovers is coventry which seem to be a couple of years ahead of us in the deterioration of a once proud club.

French Rover wrote:
good examples Hass....and I reckon for every one that we know about then there must be loads that we don't. There must be loads of clubs that are bringing foreign players in (a la Portugal with us) and blooding young academy players and hoping to unearth a gem and sell them on to keep the Wolves (not the club) from the door. Examples of clubs in trouble getting back to the top are as rare as hens teeth but It's only about four years ago or less when Southampton were in Administration, and they changed things round and made it to the Prem. Maybe we should use them as our 'model' for success?

hasslem hasslem wrote:

midas wrote:

brown cow warrior wrote:

MikeD wrote:

A Darener wrote: Apology to Sam Alladyce from the owners on Rovers web site. Totally inadequate response to the disgraceful events in Hong Kong by Steve Kean.

Disgraceful events? Come on, get a little perspective. He said Allardyce was a crook - he isn't the first person to claim it. Disgraceful was that somebody filmed a private conversation and released it onto the internet. Disgraceful is that Allardyce then sued the club (seriously - because someone called him a crook? Grow a thicker skin, man!). The club then had to pay 200K to get him to drop his frivolous lawsuit. That money comes from the supporters pockets - that's more than the gate receipts from one game.

If it was 'frivolous' then why did people who are known for being 'careful' with their money cough up a reported£200K to avoid going to court? Maybe they knew that the courts wouldn't take the same view that you do. Hopefully it will teach a certain somebody to button it in future.

Because it would cost more in lawyers fees for Rovers to continue to contest it. £15,000 to SA and costs which will not be more than a few letters, phone calls, attendance with client and perhaps advice from Counsel - say £50k tops!! . Why Rovers feel the need to apologise when Kean was quite clearly on "a frolic of his own" and was talking in a private capacity, I don't know. I can't see how they are vicariously liable, at that time, for what Kean said. . As for Kean, he was only repeating what many others have said (falsley) after viewing the Panorama programme. . The people that should be liable are the ones that published the film in the first place. They are the ones that spread the defamation from a small group of individuals in Hong Kong to a worldwide audience on the web. Did this publication have any effect on Keans job? -No. Has it had an adverse effect on Rovers? - yes!

incorrect midas, on an official club tour representing blackburn rovers. fans who released it didn't seem to be goading kean (from what i remember). both rovers and allardyce have/had been exceptionally tight lipped on the reasons behind his departure. i assume this is because NDAs were signed. Kean, on club business, opted to ignore the terms of that NDA. i think if kean had been on a private holiday in hong kong and said what he said, it would be a different matter don't see how the publication has had any impact on rovers apart from the settlement amount paid by the club.

hasslem hasslem wrote:

midas wrote:

brown cow warrior wrote:

MikeD wrote:

A Darener wrote: Apology to Sam Alladyce from the owners on Rovers web site. Totally inadequate response to the disgraceful events in Hong Kong by Steve Kean.

Disgraceful events? Come on, get a little perspective. He said Allardyce was a crook - he isn't the first person to claim it. Disgraceful was that somebody filmed a private conversation and released it onto the internet. Disgraceful is that Allardyce then sued the club (seriously - because someone called him a crook? Grow a thicker skin, man!). The club then had to pay 200K to get him to drop his frivolous lawsuit. That money comes from the supporters pockets - that's more than the gate receipts from one game.

If it was 'frivolous' then why did people who are known for being 'careful' with their money cough up a reported£200K to avoid going to court? Maybe they knew that the courts wouldn't take the same view that you do. Hopefully it will teach a certain somebody to button it in future.

Because it would cost more in lawyers fees for Rovers to continue to contest it. £15,000 to SA and costs which will not be more than a few letters, phone calls, attendance with client and perhaps advice from Counsel - say £50k tops!!
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Why Rovers feel the need to apologise when Kean was quite clearly on "a frolic of his own" and was talking in a private capacity, I don't know. I can't see how they are vicariously liable, at that time, for what Kean said.
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As for Kean, he was only repeating what many others have said (falsley) after viewing the Panorama programme.
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The people that should be liable are the ones that published the film in the first place. They are the ones that spread the defamation from a small group of individuals in Hong Kong to a worldwide audience on the web. Did this publication have any effect on Keans job? -No. Has it had an adverse effect on Rovers? - yes!

incorrect midas,

on an official club tour representing blackburn rovers. fans who released it didn't seem to be goading kean (from what i remember).

both rovers and allardyce have/had been exceptionally tight lipped on the reasons behind his departure. i assume this is because NDAs were signed. Kean, on club business, opted to ignore the terms of that NDA. i think if kean had been on a private holiday in hong kong and said what he said, it would be a different matter

don't see how the publication has had any impact on rovers apart from the settlement amount paid by the club.

dangerous dave wrote:
Sam only did what anyone one of us would have done regarding Keans rantings/allegations - and the club have recognized this by their statement and payout - so get off your high horses!!!!!
The Mail this morning states Olsson wants Rovers to accept West Hams bid - yes like others have said previously we are being softened up by statements from the Club about no one going anywhere in readiness for some transfers out!!!!
OUT WITH SINGH SHAW AGNEW HENDRY VENKYS COAR

londonrover wrote:
Mr Cryer, you are very poor. Are you a reporter, i.e. you just regurgitate what we already know or what whoever is in charge wants you to spout OR are you an investigative journalist who wants to work hard squirreling away and ruffle some feathers along the way? IMO, you are as bad as the set-up at Ewood Park. Come on, grow some!

Harwoodstblue wrote:
A thread bare squad decimated beyond belief. One injury and no one to stand in without having to rearrange the squad, pathetic.
Lowe moving back to defence will again upset the midfield just when it showed signs of improving and cheapskate owners unwilling, it seems, to even take anyone on loan due to having to pay the wages.
Well done Bowyer for what you have done but you will find yourself working with one hand tied behind your back under our wonderful owners.