Rovers boss Berg insists keeper is still in his plans

HENNING Berg insists Paul Robinson can still have a future at Blackburn Rovers after dropping the former England number one for “footballing reasons” on Saturday.

Robinson was stunned when rookie stopper Jake Kean was selected in place of him at Bloomfield Road, throwing further question marks over his future following Berg’s pursuit of Brad Friedel just a few weeks ago.

The Lancashire Telegraph understands Rovers will resume their interest in attempting to secure Friedel’s return from Tottenham Hotspur next month, but Berg is adamant former England keeper Robinson is still very much in his plans.

He said: “It was purely a footballing decision.

“Paul has been playing through the season. It was a tight decision, a difficult one to make.

“Jake has not played too much but I have seen him training and with the results we have had, given him a chance, and maybe that could make a difference.

“In the end I thought he had a decent game.

“I couldn’t complain about the goals, he couldn’t do much about them and, apart from that, he didn’t have too much to do.

“They had a free kick and a cross or two but they didn’t put him under that much pressure.

“He (Robinson) is always going to be disappointed. I would be surprised if he wasn’t, that is natural.

“Of course he was disappointed but that is the game of football.

“Most definitely it is not the end for him. We need all our goalkeepers.

“He has been playing every game up until this game. Jake played this game and we will see who plays the next one.”

The Rovers boss was also quick to insist a couple of Rovers’ old guard still have an Ewood Park future.

David Dunn and Morten Gamst Pedersen were left as unused substitutes at Bloomfield Road, despite Rovers’ dire second half efforts.

“David Dunn has not had many training sessions with us so how long he would have lasted I don’t know.” said Berg.

“Morten is in the squad, he has played two games and had one or two subs. He is here, he is a Blackburn player.

“I expect him to try his best in training and then when he gets his chance in the games.

“I want them to be disappointed, at the same time they have to have the respect for the team and we have other players who can come in.

“One thing is to be disappointed but we can only play with 11.”

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9:38am Mon 17 Dec 12

stick to football says...

Dunny created more at Ewood Park in 30 minutes than others have all season

We know he wont last but at least he may well create a goal to give us some breathing space.

Bergs emphasis is on youth - is that Venkys way of cutting the wage bill I ask?
Dunny created more at Ewood Park in 30 minutes than others have all season We know he wont last but at least he may well create a goal to give us some breathing space. Bergs emphasis is on youth - is that Venkys way of cutting the wage bill I ask? stick to football

9:56am Mon 17 Dec 12

jinkyjase says...

stick to football wrote:
Dunny created more at Ewood Park in 30 minutes than others have all season

We know he wont last but at least he may well create a goal to give us some breathing space.

Bergs emphasis is on youth - is that Venkys way of cutting the wage bill I ask?
Dunny is one of the best creative players seen at Ewood. He's also injury prone, so his ability is irrelevant if he's unfit or short of fitness. That said, why have him on the bench?

As for Berg, he needs to be given January to make changes(bearing in mind we probably have not much money). Best has to come back, some players need shipping out and replacements bringing in, then we can judge him. At the moment he's playing Kean's signings.

The squad as a whole looks unfit, Robinson being the worst example. I've more or less accepted we won't go up this season.
[quote][p][bold]stick to football[/bold] wrote: Dunny created more at Ewood Park in 30 minutes than others have all season We know he wont last but at least he may well create a goal to give us some breathing space. Bergs emphasis is on youth - is that Venkys way of cutting the wage bill I ask?[/p][/quote]Dunny is one of the best creative players seen at Ewood. He's also injury prone, so his ability is irrelevant if he's unfit or short of fitness. That said, why have him on the bench? As for Berg, he needs to be given January to make changes(bearing in mind we probably have not much money). Best has to come back, some players need shipping out and replacements bringing in, then we can judge him. At the moment he's playing Kean's signings. The squad as a whole looks unfit, Robinson being the worst example. I've more or less accepted we won't go up this season. jinkyjase

9:57am Mon 17 Dec 12

merlinrabbit says...

There is something very suspicious and familiar about all this with senior players. Have we got a Salgado/Roberts/Nels
en situation again? If I were Robinson reading this article, I would be looking for my next job. I read Salgado criticising Berg for dropping Robinson. He said that dropping important senior players during a difficult spell affects team spirit and he wasnt surprised that players werent totally committed. Berg is more or less saying that having a different goalkeeper might change results. What about the defence and midfield Henning? Maybe if that was improved, Robinson wouldnt be left so exposed. The whole thing at Rovers hasnt changed in my view. Just a different face
There is something very suspicious and familiar about all this with senior players. Have we got a Salgado/Roberts/Nels en situation again? If I were Robinson reading this article, I would be looking for my next job. I read Salgado criticising Berg for dropping Robinson. He said that dropping important senior players during a difficult spell affects team spirit and he wasnt surprised that players werent totally committed. Berg is more or less saying that having a different goalkeeper might change results. What about the defence and midfield Henning? Maybe if that was improved, Robinson wouldnt be left so exposed. The whole thing at Rovers hasnt changed in my view. Just a different face merlinrabbit

10:05am Mon 17 Dec 12

owdman says...

Get a decent manager NOW, before it is too late.
Get a decent manager NOW, before it is too late. owdman

10:14am Mon 17 Dec 12

Tom F. says...

Bring back steve kean!
He had the support of the players.
Disgracefull treatment from the Kean out supporters.
Don,t blame venkey,s you lot are to blame.
Top of the league with Keano.
Bottom 3/4 with Berg,unless he goes.
Bring back steve kean! He had the support of the players. Disgracefull treatment from the Kean out supporters. Don,t blame venkey,s you lot are to blame. Top of the league with Keano. Bottom 3/4 with Berg,unless he goes. Tom F.

10:18am Mon 17 Dec 12

merlinrabbit says...

Tom F. wrote:
Bring back steve kean!
He had the support of the players.
Disgracefull treatment from the Kean out supporters.
Don,t blame venkey,s you lot are to blame.
Top of the league with Keano.
Bottom 3/4 with Berg,unless he goes.
No Burnley news to discuss then?
[quote][p][bold]Tom F.[/bold] wrote: Bring back steve kean! He had the support of the players. Disgracefull treatment from the Kean out supporters. Don,t blame venkey,s you lot are to blame. Top of the league with Keano. Bottom 3/4 with Berg,unless he goes.[/p][/quote]No Burnley news to discuss then? merlinrabbit

10:35am Mon 17 Dec 12

1952 rover says...

It would be better if it was the end of Berg.
It would be better if it was the end of Berg. 1952 rover

10:40am Mon 17 Dec 12

Blackburn Yoof says...

I hope Berg resigns for 'footballing reasons'.
I hope Berg resigns for 'footballing reasons'. Blackburn Yoof

10:54am Mon 17 Dec 12

Tom F. says...

merlinrabbit wrote:
Tom F. wrote:
Bring back steve kean!
He had the support of the players.
Disgracefull treatment from the Kean out supporters.
Don,t blame venkey,s you lot are to blame.
Top of the league with Keano.
Bottom 3/4 with Berg,unless he goes.
No Burnley news to discuss then?
get kean out, then we will back at ewood.
get kean out, then we get promoted.
get kean out, then we will will the pl title.
where are we now??? nowhere!!!
kean was doing a fantastic job, while rover supporters are just there to harm the own club!
[quote][p][bold]merlinrabbit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tom F.[/bold] wrote: Bring back steve kean! He had the support of the players. Disgracefull treatment from the Kean out supporters. Don,t blame venkey,s you lot are to blame. Top of the league with Keano. Bottom 3/4 with Berg,unless he goes.[/p][/quote]No Burnley news to discuss then?[/p][/quote]get kean out, then we will back at ewood. get kean out, then we get promoted. get kean out, then we will will the pl title. where are we now??? nowhere!!! kean was doing a fantastic job, while rover supporters are just there to harm the own club! Tom F.

11:03am Mon 17 Dec 12

Justjes says...

Let him go....
Don't drag him down with the scum venkys
Let him go.... Don't drag him down with the scum venkys Justjes

11:18am Mon 17 Dec 12

A Rover 45 years and over says...

Dont understand the Robinson thing, it's a bad time to be messing with him and must be other motives. Can'.t see Henning doing anything with Shebby about. Shebby made a complete mess of appointing a new manager going for untried people in the first place and then expecting promotion and finally selects one with a poor track record.Now he is coming out with rubbish in the press to try to cover up the mess he made in the first place. This is incompetance of the highest order.
Dont understand the Robinson thing, it's a bad time to be messing with him and must be other motives. Can'.t see Henning doing anything with Shebby about. Shebby made a complete mess of appointing a new manager going for untried people in the first place and then expecting promotion and finally selects one with a poor track record.Now he is coming out with rubbish in the press to try to cover up the mess he made in the first place. This is incompetance of the highest order. A Rover 45 years and over

11:19am Mon 17 Dec 12

walshy2866 says...

Deja vu, start eroding squad, leave senior (aka better!) players out, they leave, replace with kids on less money. The only understanding Indian owners have is how to run things on the cheap.
Well play them at their own game, boycott the lot, home and away (they get a slice of away ticket sales don't they?). No fans, no merchandise money & basically they'll have a product no one wants. Club is devalued, goes cheap to owners who care. And don't worry the fans will return then.
Fight fire with fire.
The lot of em will loose their jobs and their cushy numbers cos none of em are worth caring for.......
Singh- Liar
Hendry- Scum who should be in prison
Agnew- Who?
Shaw- Bent as a nine bob note, ask any PNE fans
Berg- Nice guy, out of his depth but singing to owners tune
Senior players- Made enough money, can retire now, I'll shed no tears

If this means bringing the club to its knees, so be it, the phoenix will rise from the ashes. Time to forget loyalty, the vermin that own the club have none.
Deja vu, start eroding squad, leave senior (aka better!) players out, they leave, replace with kids on less money. The only understanding Indian owners have is how to run things on the cheap. Well play them at their own game, boycott the lot, home and away (they get a slice of away ticket sales don't they?). No fans, no merchandise money & basically they'll have a product no one wants. Club is devalued, goes cheap to owners who care. And don't worry the fans will return then. Fight fire with fire. The lot of em will loose their jobs and their cushy numbers cos none of em are worth caring for....... Singh- Liar Hendry- Scum who should be in prison Agnew- Who? Shaw- Bent as a nine bob note, ask any PNE fans Berg- Nice guy, out of his depth but singing to owners tune Senior players- Made enough money, can retire now, I'll shed no tears If this means bringing the club to its knees, so be it, the phoenix will rise from the ashes. Time to forget loyalty, the vermin that own the club have none. walshy2866

11:24am Mon 17 Dec 12

juanbbien says...

Who knows what the hell is going on down there
Who knows what the hell is going on down there juanbbien

11:30am Mon 17 Dec 12

pbirty says...

jinkyjase wrote:
stick to football wrote:
Dunny created more at Ewood Park in 30 minutes than others have all season

We know he wont last but at least he may well create a goal to give us some breathing space.

Bergs emphasis is on youth - is that Venkys way of cutting the wage bill I ask?
Dunny is one of the best creative players seen at Ewood. He's also injury prone, so his ability is irrelevant if he's unfit or short of fitness. That said, why have him on the bench?

As for Berg, he needs to be given January to make changes(bearing in mind we probably have not much money). Best has to come back, some players need shipping out and replacements bringing in, then we can judge him. At the moment he's playing Kean's signings.

The squad as a whole looks unfit, Robinson being the worst example. I've more or less accepted we won't go up this season.
where keans signings,his signings tho.really feeling the weight of venkys around our necks at the moment. i feel we will never have a decent manager as long as venkys continue to run the club the way they do.i believe our squad is dictated by appearance fees,etc.hence certain players not being giving the rub of the green.(vukcevic springs to mind).
[quote][p][bold]jinkyjase[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stick to football[/bold] wrote: Dunny created more at Ewood Park in 30 minutes than others have all season We know he wont last but at least he may well create a goal to give us some breathing space. Bergs emphasis is on youth - is that Venkys way of cutting the wage bill I ask?[/p][/quote]Dunny is one of the best creative players seen at Ewood. He's also injury prone, so his ability is irrelevant if he's unfit or short of fitness. That said, why have him on the bench? As for Berg, he needs to be given January to make changes(bearing in mind we probably have not much money). Best has to come back, some players need shipping out and replacements bringing in, then we can judge him. At the moment he's playing Kean's signings. The squad as a whole looks unfit, Robinson being the worst example. I've more or less accepted we won't go up this season.[/p][/quote]where keans signings,his signings tho.really feeling the weight of venkys around our necks at the moment. i feel we will never have a decent manager as long as venkys continue to run the club the way they do.i believe our squad is dictated by appearance fees,etc.hence certain players not being giving the rub of the green.(vukcevic springs to mind). pbirty

11:35am Mon 17 Dec 12

Stone Island: says...

A familiar pattern is developing here. Different manager but the same old story, only with WORSE results.

As long as Venky's and that IDIOT Shabby Minge have anything to do with this once proud club, we will lurch from one crisis to another. Things will get worse before they get better, i'm afraid.
A familiar pattern is developing here. Different manager but the same old story, only with WORSE results. As long as Venky's and that IDIOT Shabby Minge have anything to do with this once proud club, we will lurch from one crisis to another. Things will get worse before they get better, i'm afraid. Stone Island:

11:47am Mon 17 Dec 12

blueblooded says...

Tom F. wrote:
merlinrabbit wrote:
Tom F. wrote:
Bring back steve kean!
He had the support of the players.
Disgracefull treatment from the Kean out supporters.
Don,t blame venkey,s you lot are to blame.
Top of the league with Keano.
Bottom 3/4 with Berg,unless he goes.
No Burnley news to discuss then?
get kean out, then we will back at ewood.
get kean out, then we get promoted.
get kean out, then we will will the pl title.
where are we now??? nowhere!!!
kean was doing a fantastic job, while rover supporters are just there to harm the own club!
Steve?
[quote][p][bold]Tom F.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]merlinrabbit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tom F.[/bold] wrote: Bring back steve kean! He had the support of the players. Disgracefull treatment from the Kean out supporters. Don,t blame venkey,s you lot are to blame. Top of the league with Keano. Bottom 3/4 with Berg,unless he goes.[/p][/quote]No Burnley news to discuss then?[/p][/quote]get kean out, then we will back at ewood. get kean out, then we get promoted. get kean out, then we will will the pl title. where are we now??? nowhere!!! kean was doing a fantastic job, while rover supporters are just there to harm the own club![/p][/quote]Steve? blueblooded

12:01pm Mon 17 Dec 12

merlinrabbit says...

Tom F. wrote:
merlinrabbit wrote:
Tom F. wrote:
Bring back steve kean!
He had the support of the players.
Disgracefull treatment from the Kean out supporters.
Don,t blame venkey,s you lot are to blame.
Top of the league with Keano.
Bottom 3/4 with Berg,unless he goes.
No Burnley news to discuss then?
get kean out, then we will back at ewood.
get kean out, then we get promoted.
get kean out, then we will will the pl title.
where are we now??? nowhere!!!
kean was doing a fantastic job, while rover supporters are just there to harm the own club!
Spoken like a true Burnley supporter - or Steve Kean's wife
[quote][p][bold]Tom F.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]merlinrabbit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tom F.[/bold] wrote: Bring back steve kean! He had the support of the players. Disgracefull treatment from the Kean out supporters. Don,t blame venkey,s you lot are to blame. Top of the league with Keano. Bottom 3/4 with Berg,unless he goes.[/p][/quote]No Burnley news to discuss then?[/p][/quote]get kean out, then we will back at ewood. get kean out, then we get promoted. get kean out, then we will will the pl title. where are we now??? nowhere!!! kean was doing a fantastic job, while rover supporters are just there to harm the own club![/p][/quote]Spoken like a true Burnley supporter - or Steve Kean's wife merlinrabbit

12:06pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Stone Island: says...

Interestingly, someone above fears we will never get a decent manager as long as Venky's run the club the way they're doing. That comment is bang on the money.

Before appointing berg, more than one potential manager RULED THEMSELVES OUT. Why? I believe that it's because they were told they wouldn't have full control over footballing matters. Hence the appointment of a novice, that they can MANIPULATE.

Whilst berg was working as a TV pundit, after being sacked from his last job, he stated on live television: 'There are no real managers with credibility who would accept a job like that.' I guess he was right.

http://www.dailymail
.co.uk/sport/footbal
l/article-2225768/He
nning-Berg-new-Black
burn-manager-despite
-dismissing-job-past
.html
Interestingly, someone above fears we will never get a decent manager as long as Venky's run the club the way they're doing. That comment is bang on the money. Before appointing berg, more than one potential manager RULED THEMSELVES OUT. Why? I believe that it's because they were told they wouldn't have full control over footballing matters. Hence the appointment of a novice, that they can MANIPULATE. Whilst berg was working as a TV pundit, after being sacked from his last job, he stated on live television: 'There are no real managers with credibility who would accept a job like that.' I guess he was right. http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2225768/He nning-Berg-new-Black burn-manager-despite -dismissing-job-past .html Stone Island:

12:12pm Mon 17 Dec 12

fitz808 says...

merlinrabbit wrote:
There is something very suspicious and familiar about all this with senior players. Have we got a Salgado/Roberts/Nels

en situation again? If I were Robinson reading this article, I would be looking for my next job. I read Salgado criticising Berg for dropping Robinson. He said that dropping important senior players during a difficult spell affects team spirit and he wasnt surprised that players werent totally committed. Berg is more or less saying that having a different goalkeeper might change results. What about the defence and midfield Henning? Maybe if that was improved, Robinson wouldnt be left so exposed. The whole thing at Rovers hasnt changed in my view. Just a different face
i'm not sure you can be so arbitrary to suggest that dropping senior players is a bad thing. for example, a young'un could easliy come in and inspire a revival by playing without fear of consequence.
for me, robbo has been at least shaky for a while now, and i don't think he could claim to be at peak fitness. we have a young lad that seems to be performing in training, so it could easily be the right decision to make the change. as stated, he didn't personally to a huge amount wrong on saturday.
and it doesn't make sense to say that berg should focus on the defence first. he should be able to consider the makeup of all areas of the squad. the problem with the defence is that we don't have a huge amount of decent cover and the existing unit is weak. on top of that, we have a central midfield that is hugely problematic without much cover also. so making wholesale changes there might be nice, but is almost impossible at the moment.
given that much of what we all feel is wrong with the squad is a lack of energy and commitment, maybe the manager showing he is willing to drop under-performing players is a good thing.
[quote][p][bold]merlinrabbit[/bold] wrote: There is something very suspicious and familiar about all this with senior players. Have we got a Salgado/Roberts/Nels en situation again? If I were Robinson reading this article, I would be looking for my next job. I read Salgado criticising Berg for dropping Robinson. He said that dropping important senior players during a difficult spell affects team spirit and he wasnt surprised that players werent totally committed. Berg is more or less saying that having a different goalkeeper might change results. What about the defence and midfield Henning? Maybe if that was improved, Robinson wouldnt be left so exposed. The whole thing at Rovers hasnt changed in my view. Just a different face[/p][/quote]i'm not sure you can be so arbitrary to suggest that dropping senior players is a bad thing. for example, a young'un could easliy come in and inspire a revival by playing without fear of consequence. for me, robbo has been at least shaky for a while now, and i don't think he could claim to be at peak fitness. we have a young lad that seems to be performing in training, so it could easily be the right decision to make the change. as stated, he didn't personally to a huge amount wrong on saturday. and it doesn't make sense to say that berg should focus on the defence first. he should be able to consider the makeup of all areas of the squad. the problem with the defence is that we don't have a huge amount of decent cover and the existing unit is weak. on top of that, we have a central midfield that is hugely problematic without much cover also. so making wholesale changes there might be nice, but is almost impossible at the moment. given that much of what we all feel is wrong with the squad is a lack of energy and commitment, maybe the manager showing he is willing to drop under-performing players is a good thing. fitz808

12:12pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Keen O to Get Kean Out says...

jinkyjase wrote:
stick to football wrote: Dunny created more at Ewood Park in 30 minutes than others have all season We know he wont last but at least he may well create a goal to give us some breathing space. Bergs emphasis is on youth - is that Venkys way of cutting the wage bill I ask?
Dunny is one of the best creative players seen at Ewood. He's also injury prone, so his ability is irrelevant if he's unfit or short of fitness. That said, why have him on the bench? As for Berg, he needs to be given January to make changes(bearing in mind we probably have not much money). Best has to come back, some players need shipping out and replacements bringing in, then we can judge him. At the moment he's playing Kean's signings. The squad as a whole looks unfit, Robinson being the worst example. I've more or less accepted we won't go up this season.
''Accepted we wont go up this season !''
ive accepted we may face relegation again.
[quote][p][bold]jinkyjase[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stick to football[/bold] wrote: Dunny created more at Ewood Park in 30 minutes than others have all season We know he wont last but at least he may well create a goal to give us some breathing space. Bergs emphasis is on youth - is that Venkys way of cutting the wage bill I ask?[/p][/quote]Dunny is one of the best creative players seen at Ewood. He's also injury prone, so his ability is irrelevant if he's unfit or short of fitness. That said, why have him on the bench? As for Berg, he needs to be given January to make changes(bearing in mind we probably have not much money). Best has to come back, some players need shipping out and replacements bringing in, then we can judge him. At the moment he's playing Kean's signings. The squad as a whole looks unfit, Robinson being the worst example. I've more or less accepted we won't go up this season.[/p][/quote]''Accepted we wont go up this season !'' ive accepted we may face relegation again. Keen O to Get Kean Out

12:16pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Rayzerisaloser says...

Berg out now berg out now
Berg out now berg out now Rayzerisaloser

12:29pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Keen O to Get Kean Out says...

Berg Is taking the cash , Shebby Ming is on 1/2 million pa - under serious pressure from Mrs Desai who has appointed Sheb -The two lads are henpecked by her - and she will bang the club if we dont get promotion at end of season. We fans are totally irrelevant
Berg Is taking the cash , Shebby Ming is on 1/2 million pa - under serious pressure from Mrs Desai who has appointed Sheb -The two lads are henpecked by her - and she will bang the club if we dont get promotion at end of season. We fans are totally irrelevant Keen O to Get Kean Out

12:46pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Tom F. says...

blueblooded wrote:
Tom F. wrote:
merlinrabbit wrote:
Tom F. wrote:
Bring back steve kean!
He had the support of the players.
Disgracefull treatment from the Kean out supporters.
Don,t blame venkey,s you lot are to blame.
Top of the league with Keano.
Bottom 3/4 with Berg,unless he goes.
No Burnley news to discuss then?
get kean out, then we will back at ewood.
get kean out, then we get promoted.
get kean out, then we will will the pl title.
where are we now??? nowhere!!!
kean was doing a fantastic job, while rover supporters are just there to harm the own club!
Steve?
yes,...i am speaking about Steve? Kean!
the whole world laughs about rovers boo boys.
but we are here to protect the club and are the real fans!
[quote][p][bold]blueblooded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tom F.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]merlinrabbit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tom F.[/bold] wrote: Bring back steve kean! He had the support of the players. Disgracefull treatment from the Kean out supporters. Don,t blame venkey,s you lot are to blame. Top of the league with Keano. Bottom 3/4 with Berg,unless he goes.[/p][/quote]No Burnley news to discuss then?[/p][/quote]get kean out, then we will back at ewood. get kean out, then we get promoted. get kean out, then we will will the pl title. where are we now??? nowhere!!! kean was doing a fantastic job, while rover supporters are just there to harm the own club![/p][/quote]Steve?[/p][/quote]yes,...i am speaking about Steve? Kean! the whole world laughs about rovers boo boys. but we are here to protect the club and are the real fans! Tom F.

12:48pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Tom F. says...

merlinrabbit wrote:
Tom F. wrote:
merlinrabbit wrote:
Tom F. wrote:
Bring back steve kean!
He had the support of the players.
Disgracefull treatment from the Kean out supporters.
Don,t blame venkey,s you lot are to blame.
Top of the league with Keano.
Bottom 3/4 with Berg,unless he goes.
No Burnley news to discuss then?
get kean out, then we will back at ewood.
get kean out, then we get promoted.
get kean out, then we will will the pl title.
where are we now??? nowhere!!!
kean was doing a fantastic job, while rover supporters are just there to harm the own club!
Spoken like a true Burnley supporter - or Steve Kean's wife
ohhhh, we want berg. yepeeeeeee we got berg. oh what a pitty,....steve was not so bad either :-) rover boooooo boys are dangerous for the club. go and support burnley and leave us alone!
[quote][p][bold]merlinrabbit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tom F.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]merlinrabbit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tom F.[/bold] wrote: Bring back steve kean! He had the support of the players. Disgracefull treatment from the Kean out supporters. Don,t blame venkey,s you lot are to blame. Top of the league with Keano. Bottom 3/4 with Berg,unless he goes.[/p][/quote]No Burnley news to discuss then?[/p][/quote]get kean out, then we will back at ewood. get kean out, then we get promoted. get kean out, then we will will the pl title. where are we now??? nowhere!!! kean was doing a fantastic job, while rover supporters are just there to harm the own club![/p][/quote]Spoken like a true Burnley supporter - or Steve Kean's wife[/p][/quote]ohhhh, we want berg. yepeeeeeee we got berg. oh what a pitty,....steve was not so bad either :-) rover boooooo boys are dangerous for the club. go and support burnley and leave us alone! Tom F.

12:51pm Mon 17 Dec 12

submin01 says...

Berg has proved that he not a manager Time to bring back Mark Hughes. We all know what he is capable of. RESULTS>
Berg has proved that he not a manager Time to bring back Mark Hughes. We all know what he is capable of. RESULTS> submin01

12:54pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Paul E says...

The team does look like it is going backwards with confidence sinking lower and lower. Lets hope the January window is used well.

People says it is to early to judge Berg but it looks like he is a little out of his depth, no one expected miracles when Kean left but this is not looking good.
The team does look like it is going backwards with confidence sinking lower and lower. Lets hope the January window is used well. People says it is to early to judge Berg but it looks like he is a little out of his depth, no one expected miracles when Kean left but this is not looking good. Paul E

12:58pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Keen O to Get Kean Out says...

Paul E wrote:
The team does look like it is going backwards with confidence sinking lower and lower. Lets hope the January window is used well. People says it is to early to judge Berg but it looks like he is a little out of his depth, no one expected miracles when Kean left but this is not looking good.
Agree Paul, Berg is completely out his depth and must be crappin his self - but you dont need to be a rocket scientist to work out that if we did want promotion we should go for Holloway , Hughes , Rednapp -- all experienced managers
[quote][p][bold]Paul E[/bold] wrote: The team does look like it is going backwards with confidence sinking lower and lower. Lets hope the January window is used well. People says it is to early to judge Berg but it looks like he is a little out of his depth, no one expected miracles when Kean left but this is not looking good.[/p][/quote]Agree Paul, Berg is completely out his depth and must be crappin his self - but you dont need to be a rocket scientist to work out that if we did want promotion we should go for Holloway , Hughes , Rednapp -- all experienced managers Keen O to Get Kean Out

1:00pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Dukes says...

Beg your trying to say he will be going if you left him out.

Jake Kean over Robbo what a joke.

BERG OUT AND VENKYS OUT.
Beg your trying to say he will be going if you left him out. Jake Kean over Robbo what a joke. BERG OUT AND VENKYS OUT. Dukes

1:09pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Miss-You-Uncle-Jack says...

Time is precious berg, as I keep saying on here you still have my support, but you can't be using the position we're in to experiment! Arguably you've got to change something, I accept Robinson has made a few errors, but hasn't everyone? Dann, Hanley, Murphy, etuhu to name a few, more mistakes than I care to mention so why drop robbo and leave dann, Murphy when fit and etuhu still in the team? You're not making a point by just dropping one, you've got to drop the main instigators! Only my opinion again, but I pray you have the money in Jan to turn it around. Prove you're the right man for the job Henning, our club deserves better than all this.
Time is precious berg, as I keep saying on here you still have my support, but you can't be using the position we're in to experiment! Arguably you've got to change something, I accept Robinson has made a few errors, but hasn't everyone? Dann, Hanley, Murphy, etuhu to name a few, more mistakes than I care to mention so why drop robbo and leave dann, Murphy when fit and etuhu still in the team? You're not making a point by just dropping one, you've got to drop the main instigators! Only my opinion again, but I pray you have the money in Jan to turn it around. Prove you're the right man for the job Henning, our club deserves better than all this. Miss-You-Uncle-Jack

1:15pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Long time Rover says...

I see a danger here of every decision being bound together as a part of "the problems at the club"
I asked on here 2 weeks ago the question " is Robinson really a good keeper". My answer was and is no, and if HB agrees with me then I for one just see that as a valid opinion and an ok change in the team.
Its all part of a new manager sorting himself and his team out and trying various options.Promotion this time was never a realistic aim so let him get on with the job, support the team and the manager and look at it more critically this time next season when hopefully we will be in better shape.
I see a danger here of every decision being bound together as a part of "the problems at the club" I asked on here 2 weeks ago the question " is Robinson really a good keeper". My answer was and is no, and if HB agrees with me then I for one just see that as a valid opinion and an ok change in the team. Its all part of a new manager sorting himself and his team out and trying various options.Promotion this time was never a realistic aim so let him get on with the job, support the team and the manager and look at it more critically this time next season when hopefully we will be in better shape. Long time Rover

1:23pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Keen O to Get Kean Out says...

Long time Rover wrote:
I see a danger here of every decision being bound together as a part of "the problems at the club" I asked on here 2 weeks ago the question " is Robinson really a good keeper". My answer was and is no, and if HB agrees with me then I for one just see that as a valid opinion and an ok change in the team. Its all part of a new manager sorting himself and his team out and trying various options.Promotion this time was never a realistic aim so let him get on with the job, support the team and the manager and look at it more critically this time next season when hopefully we will be in better shape.
Lets be honest tho , id feel more confident if Harry Rednap or someone of his proven record was sorting our squad out for next season
[quote][p][bold]Long time Rover[/bold] wrote: I see a danger here of every decision being bound together as a part of "the problems at the club" I asked on here 2 weeks ago the question " is Robinson really a good keeper". My answer was and is no, and if HB agrees with me then I for one just see that as a valid opinion and an ok change in the team. Its all part of a new manager sorting himself and his team out and trying various options.Promotion this time was never a realistic aim so let him get on with the job, support the team and the manager and look at it more critically this time next season when hopefully we will be in better shape.[/p][/quote]Lets be honest tho , id feel more confident if Harry Rednap or someone of his proven record was sorting our squad out for next season Keen O to Get Kean Out

1:28pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Bangkok Rover says...

Tom F. wrote:
merlinrabbit wrote:
Tom F. wrote:
merlinrabbit wrote:
Tom F. wrote:
Bring back steve kean!
He had the support of the players.
Disgracefull treatment from the Kean out supporters.
Don,t blame venkey,s you lot are to blame.
Top of the league with Keano.
Bottom 3/4 with Berg,unless he goes.
No Burnley news to discuss then?
get kean out, then we will back at ewood.
get kean out, then we get promoted.
get kean out, then we will will the pl title.
where are we now??? nowhere!!!
kean was doing a fantastic job, while rover supporters are just there to harm the own club!
Spoken like a true Burnley supporter - or Steve Kean's wife
ohhhh, we want berg. yepeeeeeee we got berg. oh what a pitty,....steve was not so bad either :-) rover boooooo boys are dangerous for the club. go and support burnley and leave us alone!
Kean had 2 years to demonstrate his management abilities. Not only that, but he inherited a very good team of fit professionals. What we have witnessed has been a steady deterioration of performances (including a game without a single shot or goal attempt by Rovers) with an understandable deterioration of goodwill towards Venky's.

As frustrating as it is, I believe most fans don't expect Henning to be able to wave a magic wand and have a balanced side of happy, fit professionals. It will take time to sort the mess out.

The worrying thing right now is that it seems Berg is being put under pressure to change his back-room team. It's Henning's decision and they should only be there to support him. It's tempting to think a clear out of the old guard will help but we need to trust Berg on this.
[quote][p][bold]Tom F.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]merlinrabbit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tom F.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]merlinrabbit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tom F.[/bold] wrote: Bring back steve kean! He had the support of the players. Disgracefull treatment from the Kean out supporters. Don,t blame venkey,s you lot are to blame. Top of the league with Keano. Bottom 3/4 with Berg,unless he goes.[/p][/quote]No Burnley news to discuss then?[/p][/quote]get kean out, then we will back at ewood. get kean out, then we get promoted. get kean out, then we will will the pl title. where are we now??? nowhere!!! kean was doing a fantastic job, while rover supporters are just there to harm the own club![/p][/quote]Spoken like a true Burnley supporter - or Steve Kean's wife[/p][/quote]ohhhh, we want berg. yepeeeeeee we got berg. oh what a pitty,....steve was not so bad either :-) rover boooooo boys are dangerous for the club. go and support burnley and leave us alone![/p][/quote]Kean had 2 years to demonstrate his management abilities. Not only that, but he inherited a very good team of fit professionals. What we have witnessed has been a steady deterioration of performances (including a game without a single shot or goal attempt by Rovers) with an understandable deterioration of goodwill towards Venky's. As frustrating as it is, I believe most fans don't expect Henning to be able to wave a magic wand and have a balanced side of happy, fit professionals. It will take time to sort the mess out. The worrying thing right now is that it seems Berg is being put under pressure to change his back-room team. It's Henning's decision and they should only be there to support him. It's tempting to think a clear out of the old guard will help but we need to trust Berg on this. Bangkok Rover

1:41pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Always_a_blue says...

We were a bit naive when we came into this league. We were expecting to win every game and get instant promotion. As you can see you can't really call a result from week to week and the table is ever changing. I have to say that whilst I didn't like Kean, he was managing to get the results. Berg's win record over the last 3 years is only just better than Kean's (And this was hardly the EPL) and worse than Ince's. Suffice to say we were never going to achieve under Berg. As for Kean's signings etc we were in automaric promotion spot when he left. We need a new manager and fast.
We were a bit naive when we came into this league. We were expecting to win every game and get instant promotion. As you can see you can't really call a result from week to week and the table is ever changing. I have to say that whilst I didn't like Kean, he was managing to get the results. Berg's win record over the last 3 years is only just better than Kean's (And this was hardly the EPL) and worse than Ince's. Suffice to say we were never going to achieve under Berg. As for Kean's signings etc we were in automaric promotion spot when he left. We need a new manager and fast. Always_a_blue

2:05pm Mon 17 Dec 12

bburnrover says...

I am disappointed but its not because I cannot get in the side its because I watch from the side.
I am disappointed but its not because I cannot get in the side its because I watch from the side. bburnrover

2:08pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Keen O to Get Kean Out says...

Always_a_blue wrote:
We were a bit naive when we came into this league. We were expecting to win every game and get instant promotion. As you can see you can't really call a result from week to week and the table is ever changing. I have to say that whilst I didn't like Kean, he was managing to get the results. Berg's win record over the last 3 years is only just better than Kean's (And this was hardly the EPL) and worse than Ince's. Suffice to say we were never going to achieve under Berg. As for Kean's signings etc we were in automaric promotion spot when he left. We need a new manager and fast.
Big Sam was ideal , Kean woefull and was corrupt, Berg Worse than ever,but these are all decisions made by our wonderful owners, so who ever is the manager is wont make the slightest bit o difference , its the owners fault they employ baffoons and sack the good lads !!!
[quote][p][bold]Always_a_blue[/bold] wrote: We were a bit naive when we came into this league. We were expecting to win every game and get instant promotion. As you can see you can't really call a result from week to week and the table is ever changing. I have to say that whilst I didn't like Kean, he was managing to get the results. Berg's win record over the last 3 years is only just better than Kean's (And this was hardly the EPL) and worse than Ince's. Suffice to say we were never going to achieve under Berg. As for Kean's signings etc we were in automaric promotion spot when he left. We need a new manager and fast.[/p][/quote]Big Sam was ideal , Kean woefull and was corrupt, Berg Worse than ever,but these are all decisions made by our wonderful owners, so who ever is the manager is wont make the slightest bit o difference , its the owners fault they employ baffoons and sack the good lads !!! Keen O to Get Kean Out

2:24pm Mon 17 Dec 12

noddymcleod says...

Back to the subject of Jake K or Robbo.
It's a rerun of Tim Flowers or Shay Given - a good keeper clearly on the way down or promising lad who needs a run out.
We made the wrong decision last time, perhaps Berg has that in mind.
Robbo going to West Ham to punt it down field for Andy C makes sense, lowers the wage bill and gives a chance to a youngster.
Back to the subject of Jake K or Robbo. It's a rerun of Tim Flowers or Shay Given - a good keeper clearly on the way down or promising lad who needs a run out. We made the wrong decision last time, perhaps Berg has that in mind. Robbo going to West Ham to punt it down field for Andy C makes sense, lowers the wage bill and gives a chance to a youngster. noddymcleod

2:27pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Keen O to Get Kean Out says...

noddymcleod wrote:
Back to the subject of Jake K or Robbo. It's a rerun of Tim Flowers or Shay Given - a good keeper clearly on the way down or promising lad who needs a run out. We made the wrong decision last time, perhaps Berg has that in mind. Robbo going to West Ham to punt it down field for Andy C makes sense, lowers the wage bill and gives a chance to a youngster.
But any team needs a couple of good pro,s - to steady the ship at the back ,, how many are we goina let in when robbo does go.. ?
[quote][p][bold]noddymcleod[/bold] wrote: Back to the subject of Jake K or Robbo. It's a rerun of Tim Flowers or Shay Given - a good keeper clearly on the way down or promising lad who needs a run out. We made the wrong decision last time, perhaps Berg has that in mind. Robbo going to West Ham to punt it down field for Andy C makes sense, lowers the wage bill and gives a chance to a youngster.[/p][/quote]But any team needs a couple of good pro,s - to steady the ship at the back ,, how many are we goina let in when robbo does go.. ? Keen O to Get Kean Out

2:42pm Mon 17 Dec 12

english rose 1 says...

stick to football wrote:
Dunny created more at Ewood Park in 30 minutes than others have all season

We know he wont last but at least he may well create a goal to give us some breathing space.

Bergs emphasis is on youth - is that Venkys way of cutting the wage bill I ask?
Fair comment. However, Berg has been left a squad with:

a) no left back
b) no box to box midfield player
c) no natural right sided forward player
d) no attacker who can hold the ball up (ok, we have to see Best yet)
e) a lot of old, very slow, immobile, ageing players susceptible to injury
f) no decent crosser of a ball / dead ball specialist (except Pedersen - see e above !)

Kean & Venky's between them systematically got rid of all the best players we had (too numerous to mention) and all our best backroom / admin staff in order to reduce the wage bill and satisfy their 'consultants'. All this with no experience or a clue how to run a football club.

I expected Rovers to struggle this season - I even contemplated a bet that we'd get relegated, - Berg has a big task. He must be given time. Write this season off, don't get relegated, and try to kick on next season.
[quote][p][bold]stick to football[/bold] wrote: Dunny created more at Ewood Park in 30 minutes than others have all season We know he wont last but at least he may well create a goal to give us some breathing space. Bergs emphasis is on youth - is that Venkys way of cutting the wage bill I ask?[/p][/quote]Fair comment. However, Berg has been left a squad with: a) no left back b) no box to box midfield player c) no natural right sided forward player d) no attacker who can hold the ball up (ok, we have to see Best yet) e) a lot of old, very slow, immobile, ageing players susceptible to injury f) no decent crosser of a ball / dead ball specialist (except Pedersen - see e above !) Kean & Venky's between them systematically got rid of all the best players we had (too numerous to mention) and all our best backroom / admin staff in order to reduce the wage bill and satisfy their 'consultants'. All this with no experience or a clue how to run a football club. I expected Rovers to struggle this season - I even contemplated a bet that we'd get relegated, - Berg has a big task. He must be given time. Write this season off, don't get relegated, and try to kick on next season. english rose 1

2:49pm Mon 17 Dec 12

juanbbien says...

submin01 wrote:
Berg has proved that he not a manager Time to bring back Mark Hughes. We all know what he is capable of. RESULTS>
Let's forget this get Hughes back,they should have appointed Holloway,Redknapp would have sorted this lot out,they firstly wouldn't want the job and there is no way Venkys or who ever will allow someone to Run The Club as such,it seems they are content to sell all the assets,don't give a damm about the fans and have Shaggy here to act as a Courtjester to till they have completed their mission and then ring the curtain down.Why would any body choose to ignore sound advice,implement novices alienate twelve thousand,and rising fans,lose sixty million Sky money,buy substandard players,what business sense or any sense can be apportioned too the above.
[quote][p][bold]submin01[/bold] wrote: Berg has proved that he not a manager Time to bring back Mark Hughes. We all know what he is capable of. RESULTS>[/p][/quote]Let's forget this get Hughes back,they should have appointed Holloway,Redknapp would have sorted this lot out,they firstly wouldn't want the job and there is no way Venkys or who ever will allow someone to Run The Club as such,it seems they are content to sell all the assets,don't give a damm about the fans and have Shaggy here to act as a Courtjester to till they have completed their mission and then ring the curtain down.Why would any body choose to ignore sound advice,implement novices alienate twelve thousand,and rising fans,lose sixty million Sky money,buy substandard players,what business sense or any sense can be apportioned too the above. juanbbien

2:57pm Mon 17 Dec 12

fanny_tickler. says...

Always_a_blue wrote:
We were a bit naive when we came into this league. We were expecting to win every game and get instant promotion. As you can see you can't really call a result from week to week and the table is ever changing. I have to say that whilst I didn't like Kean, he was managing to get the results. Berg's win record over the last 3 years is only just better than Kean's (And this was hardly the EPL) and worse than Ince's. Suffice to say we were never going to achieve under Berg. As for Kean's signings etc we were in automaric promotion spot when he left. We need a new manager and fast.
Bring back Kean.
[quote][p][bold]Always_a_blue[/bold] wrote: We were a bit naive when we came into this league. We were expecting to win every game and get instant promotion. As you can see you can't really call a result from week to week and the table is ever changing. I have to say that whilst I didn't like Kean, he was managing to get the results. Berg's win record over the last 3 years is only just better than Kean's (And this was hardly the EPL) and worse than Ince's. Suffice to say we were never going to achieve under Berg. As for Kean's signings etc we were in automaric promotion spot when he left. We need a new manager and fast.[/p][/quote]Bring back Kean. fanny_tickler.

3:28pm Mon 17 Dec 12

oldblue says...

Tom F. wrote:
Bring back steve kean!
He had the support of the players.
Disgracefull treatment from the Kean out supporters.
Don,t blame venkey,s you lot are to blame.
Top of the league with Keano.
Bottom 3/4 with Berg,unless he goes.
That's you Steve isn't it. I wondered where you had got to. If getting the club relegated was success then yes, you did a fantastic job.
[quote][p][bold]Tom F.[/bold] wrote: Bring back steve kean! He had the support of the players. Disgracefull treatment from the Kean out supporters. Don,t blame venkey,s you lot are to blame. Top of the league with Keano. Bottom 3/4 with Berg,unless he goes.[/p][/quote]That's you Steve isn't it. I wondered where you had got to. If getting the club relegated was success then yes, you did a fantastic job. oldblue

3:49pm Mon 17 Dec 12

owdman says...

Hughes would be better than Berg, but would he have to kow-tow to Singh?
Hughes would be better than Berg, but would he have to kow-tow to Singh? owdman

4:01pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Roverthere says...

Was dropping Robinson part of Singh's decisive action plan? As they say a little knowledge is dangerous!
Was dropping Robinson part of Singh's decisive action plan? As they say a little knowledge is dangerous! Roverthere

4:10pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Return of the Magnificent se7en says...

Theres a lot of tools on here today.
On Robinson, the worst goalkeeper in the premier league last year by a country mile starts this season carrying more weight than the last.
Stats don't lie, shots on target to goals conceded means we should have kept Bunn and let Robbo go in close season. But all on here getting glassy eyed. The reason we got relegated are still pulling on the shirt. Berg needs to sort this Kean mess out,
Can't believe some on here claiming Kean was now a good manager.
He got you relegated.
Theres a lot of tools on here today. On Robinson, the worst goalkeeper in the premier league last year by a country mile starts this season carrying more weight than the last. Stats don't lie, shots on target to goals conceded means we should have kept Bunn and let Robbo go in close season. But all on here getting glassy eyed. The reason we got relegated are still pulling on the shirt. Berg needs to sort this Kean mess out, Can't believe some on here claiming Kean was now a good manager. He got you relegated. Return of the Magnificent se7en

4:32pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Dan11 says...

Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:
Theres a lot of tools on here today. On Robinson, the worst goalkeeper in the premier league last year by a country mile starts this season carrying more weight than the last. Stats don't lie, shots on target to goals conceded means we should have kept Bunn and let Robbo go in close season. But all on here getting glassy eyed. The reason we got relegated are still pulling on the shirt. Berg needs to sort this Kean mess out, Can't believe some on here claiming Kean was now a good manager. He got you relegated.
Yes that is right. Robinson was the worst goalkeeper in the premier last season by a country mile- 20th out of 20th. He also doesnt do the other things very well- coming for crosses and commanding his penalty area. Subsequent to that this season he turned up another stone overweight and looks even more disinterested than in the last

Letting go of Bunn was a big mistake, and look at where Norwich are now with him in goal.
[quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: Theres a lot of tools on here today. On Robinson, the worst goalkeeper in the premier league last year by a country mile starts this season carrying more weight than the last. Stats don't lie, shots on target to goals conceded means we should have kept Bunn and let Robbo go in close season. But all on here getting glassy eyed. The reason we got relegated are still pulling on the shirt. Berg needs to sort this Kean mess out, Can't believe some on here claiming Kean was now a good manager. He got you relegated.[/p][/quote]Yes that is right. Robinson was the worst goalkeeper in the premier last season by a country mile- 20th out of 20th. He also doesnt do the other things very well- coming for crosses and commanding his penalty area. Subsequent to that this season he turned up another stone overweight and looks even more disinterested than in the last Letting go of Bunn was a big mistake, and look at where Norwich are now with him in goal. Dan11

4:36pm Mon 17 Dec 12

blueblooded says...

Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:
Theres a lot of tools on here today.
On Robinson, the worst goalkeeper in the premier league last year by a country mile starts this season carrying more weight than the last.
Stats don't lie, shots on target to goals conceded means we should have kept Bunn and let Robbo go in close season. But all on here getting glassy eyed. The reason we got relegated are still pulling on the shirt. Berg needs to sort this Kean mess out,
Can't believe some on here claiming Kean was now a good manager.
He got you relegated.
They're getting mistaken by the goalie again..

Poor Jake.. Probably needs to get his name changed by deed poll before he gets a complex. I thought he was excellent against pool, especially seeing it was the first time he'd played first team footy this season.

Quite happy to see him replace BFG Robinson, for all his loyal service. He's paid to do a job and now he's not up to it anymore. We keep getting sentimental about these things and then expect miracles from managers working with geriatric squads. It isnt going to happen. Robbo, Murphy, Etuhu,MGP and even Gomes need to make way for younger, faster players who can play decent football for 90 mins and these players just don't have the legs anymore and likely have salaries that equate to more than the combined salaries of the rest of the squad.

We need to cut costs, we need younger players. It doesn't require a genius to work it out. Shebby decided on the opposite. A rookie manager managing experienced players. Most others would have done the opposite. An experienced manager could quite easily take a young side and turn into a winning team. We have a rookie trying to manage experienced players and people wonder why none of them are playing for him.

Still don't believe Berg is the right man, his substitutions baffle me as do some of his lineups, i'm sure fitness/injuries tie his hands at times and maybe he's looking at the next match and trying to work out who would be better rested. But we arent winning so his intuition in that scenario isnt working anyway.

Won't be calling for Berg out, but come January transfer if doesn't make the defensive and midfield changes that are clearly needed, then it will be blindingly obvious he needs to go as more defeats start racking up and relegation looks yet even more likely.
[quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: Theres a lot of tools on here today. On Robinson, the worst goalkeeper in the premier league last year by a country mile starts this season carrying more weight than the last. Stats don't lie, shots on target to goals conceded means we should have kept Bunn and let Robbo go in close season. But all on here getting glassy eyed. The reason we got relegated are still pulling on the shirt. Berg needs to sort this Kean mess out, Can't believe some on here claiming Kean was now a good manager. He got you relegated.[/p][/quote]They're getting mistaken by the goalie again.. Poor Jake.. Probably needs to get his name changed by deed poll before he gets a complex. I thought he was excellent against pool, especially seeing it was the first time he'd played first team footy this season. Quite happy to see him replace BFG Robinson, for all his loyal service. He's paid to do a job and now he's not up to it anymore. We keep getting sentimental about these things and then expect miracles from managers working with geriatric squads. It isnt going to happen. Robbo, Murphy, Etuhu,MGP and even Gomes need to make way for younger, faster players who can play decent football for 90 mins and these players just don't have the legs anymore and likely have salaries that equate to more than the combined salaries of the rest of the squad. We need to cut costs, we need younger players. It doesn't require a genius to work it out. Shebby decided on the opposite. A rookie manager managing experienced players. Most others would have done the opposite. An experienced manager could quite easily take a young side and turn into a winning team. We have a rookie trying to manage experienced players and people wonder why none of them are playing for him. Still don't believe Berg is the right man, his substitutions baffle me as do some of his lineups, i'm sure fitness/injuries tie his hands at times and maybe he's looking at the next match and trying to work out who would be better rested. But we arent winning so his intuition in that scenario isnt working anyway. Won't be calling for Berg out, but come January transfer if doesn't make the defensive and midfield changes that are clearly needed, then it will be blindingly obvious he needs to go as more defeats start racking up and relegation looks yet even more likely. blueblooded

5:01pm Mon 17 Dec 12

roverfor60years says...

We are truly in a black place, a long dark tunnel with not a glimmer of hope as things stand.

I said at the time John Williams had his contract terminated - to satisfy the avarice of Agent Anderson who wanted him out of the way to fulfil his sinister plan - that Venky's would live to rue the day. That day is here.

My thoughts on what is wrong at Ewood are well documented and I have no reason to go through them all again. Suffice to say EVERYTHING is wrong from top to bottom. It is pointless calling for Venky’s to go, or for a new manager to be appointed. Where will we be then?

It appears Venky’s are here to stay – for the foreseeable future, anyway. Mrs Desai and the Rao brothers have that future, perhaps our very existence as we know it, in the palm of their hands and in my view they can make only one decision that will save us – reappoint John Williams and Tom Finn, whatever it takes to do it.

I know many will say ‘not a chance’. But they have GOT to make it happen. John knows this club inside out. He knows a lot of what has happened and what he doesn’t know he will quickly find out from past and present members of staff. And Venky’s will need to lay bare their souls, be open with him and fully explain why they have acted with such folly for so long.

If they cannot do it themselves, get someone to do it for them. Someone with heart and soul in the club who could sit down and tempt John and Tom back - on their terms. Maybe Robert Coar, ex-directors or chairmen, Ian Battersby, Wayne Wild, anyone who could broker it. Anyone.

John will know immediately what needs to be done. Venky’s must put their trust in him, back his decisions and give him complete authority to rebuild our once-proud club as fast as he can and restore the stability we once enjoyed.

That one decision – which would be their only correct one in two years of carnage – would set us on the road to recovery. I doubt anyone else could do it.

If Venky’s cannot pull it off, heaven help us.
We are truly in a black place, a long dark tunnel with not a glimmer of hope as things stand. I said at the time John Williams had his contract terminated - to satisfy the avarice of Agent Anderson who wanted him out of the way to fulfil his sinister plan - that Venky's would live to rue the day. That day is here. My thoughts on what is wrong at Ewood are well documented and I have no reason to go through them all again. Suffice to say EVERYTHING is wrong from top to bottom. It is pointless calling for Venky’s to go, or for a new manager to be appointed. Where will we be then? It appears Venky’s are here to stay – for the foreseeable future, anyway. Mrs Desai and the Rao brothers have that future, perhaps our very existence as we know it, in the palm of their hands and in my view they can make only one decision that will save us – reappoint John Williams and Tom Finn, whatever it takes to do it. I know many will say ‘not a chance’. But they have GOT to make it happen. John knows this club inside out. He knows a lot of what has happened and what he doesn’t know he will quickly find out from past and present members of staff. And Venky’s will need to lay bare their souls, be open with him and fully explain why they have acted with such folly for so long. If they cannot do it themselves, get someone to do it for them. Someone with heart and soul in the club who could sit down and tempt John and Tom back - on their terms. Maybe Robert Coar, ex-directors or chairmen, Ian Battersby, Wayne Wild, anyone who could broker it. Anyone. John will know immediately what needs to be done. Venky’s must put their trust in him, back his decisions and give him complete authority to rebuild our once-proud club as fast as he can and restore the stability we once enjoyed. That one decision – which would be their only correct one in two years of carnage – would set us on the road to recovery. I doubt anyone else could do it. If Venky’s cannot pull it off, heaven help us. roverfor60years

5:17pm Mon 17 Dec 12

katrew says...

roverfor60years wrote:
We are truly in a black place, a long dark tunnel with not a glimmer of hope as things stand.

I said at the time John Williams had his contract terminated - to satisfy the avarice of Agent Anderson who wanted him out of the way to fulfil his sinister plan - that Venky's would live to rue the day. That day is here.

My thoughts on what is wrong at Ewood are well documented and I have no reason to go through them all again. Suffice to say EVERYTHING is wrong from top to bottom. It is pointless calling for Venky’s to go, or for a new manager to be appointed. Where will we be then?

It appears Venky’s are here to stay – for the foreseeable future, anyway. Mrs Desai and the Rao brothers have that future, perhaps our very existence as we know it, in the palm of their hands and in my view they can make only one decision that will save us – reappoint John Williams and Tom Finn, whatever it takes to do it.

I know many will say ‘not a chance’. But they have GOT to make it happen. John knows this club inside out. He knows a lot of what has happened and what he doesn’t know he will quickly find out from past and present members of staff. And Venky’s will need to lay bare their souls, be open with him and fully explain why they have acted with such folly for so long.

If they cannot do it themselves, get someone to do it for them. Someone with heart and soul in the club who could sit down and tempt John and Tom back - on their terms. Maybe Robert Coar, ex-directors or chairmen, Ian Battersby, Wayne Wild, anyone who could broker it. Anyone.

John will know immediately what needs to be done. Venky’s must put their trust in him, back his decisions and give him complete authority to rebuild our once-proud club as fast as he can and restore the stability we once enjoyed.

That one decision – which would be their only correct one in two years of carnage – would set us on the road to recovery. I doubt anyone else could do it.

If Venky’s cannot pull it off, heaven help us.
wishful thinking I'm afraid. John Williams or Tom Finn wouldn't come back to work for Venky's. It was Venky's who got rid of them and they have gone on to other things. Need to replace Berg who is out of his depth. Unfortunately we are still waiting for Shabbies "Decisive Action" just don't hold your breath for any improvement in the way the club is run.
[quote][p][bold]roverfor60years[/bold] wrote: We are truly in a black place, a long dark tunnel with not a glimmer of hope as things stand. I said at the time John Williams had his contract terminated - to satisfy the avarice of Agent Anderson who wanted him out of the way to fulfil his sinister plan - that Venky's would live to rue the day. That day is here. My thoughts on what is wrong at Ewood are well documented and I have no reason to go through them all again. Suffice to say EVERYTHING is wrong from top to bottom. It is pointless calling for Venky’s to go, or for a new manager to be appointed. Where will we be then? It appears Venky’s are here to stay – for the foreseeable future, anyway. Mrs Desai and the Rao brothers have that future, perhaps our very existence as we know it, in the palm of their hands and in my view they can make only one decision that will save us – reappoint John Williams and Tom Finn, whatever it takes to do it. I know many will say ‘not a chance’. But they have GOT to make it happen. John knows this club inside out. He knows a lot of what has happened and what he doesn’t know he will quickly find out from past and present members of staff. And Venky’s will need to lay bare their souls, be open with him and fully explain why they have acted with such folly for so long. If they cannot do it themselves, get someone to do it for them. Someone with heart and soul in the club who could sit down and tempt John and Tom back - on their terms. Maybe Robert Coar, ex-directors or chairmen, Ian Battersby, Wayne Wild, anyone who could broker it. Anyone. John will know immediately what needs to be done. Venky’s must put their trust in him, back his decisions and give him complete authority to rebuild our once-proud club as fast as he can and restore the stability we once enjoyed. That one decision – which would be their only correct one in two years of carnage – would set us on the road to recovery. I doubt anyone else could do it. If Venky’s cannot pull it off, heaven help us.[/p][/quote]wishful thinking I'm afraid. John Williams or Tom Finn wouldn't come back to work for Venky's. It was Venky's who got rid of them and they have gone on to other things. Need to replace Berg who is out of his depth. Unfortunately we are still waiting for Shabbies "Decisive Action" just don't hold your breath for any improvement in the way the club is run. katrew

5:46pm Mon 17 Dec 12

roverfor60years says...

katrew wrote:
roverfor60years wrote:
We are truly in a black place, a long dark tunnel with not a glimmer of hope as things stand.

I said at the time John Williams had his contract terminated - to satisfy the avarice of Agent Anderson who wanted him out of the way to fulfil his sinister plan - that Venky's would live to rue the day. That day is here.

My thoughts on what is wrong at Ewood are well documented and I have no reason to go through them all again. Suffice to say EVERYTHING is wrong from top to bottom. It is pointless calling for Venky’s to go, or for a new manager to be appointed. Where will we be then?

It appears Venky’s are here to stay – for the foreseeable future, anyway. Mrs Desai and the Rao brothers have that future, perhaps our very existence as we know it, in the palm of their hands and in my view they can make only one decision that will save us – reappoint John Williams and Tom Finn, whatever it takes to do it.

I know many will say ‘not a chance’. But they have GOT to make it happen. John knows this club inside out. He knows a lot of what has happened and what he doesn’t know he will quickly find out from past and present members of staff. And Venky’s will need to lay bare their souls, be open with him and fully explain why they have acted with such folly for so long.

If they cannot do it themselves, get someone to do it for them. Someone with heart and soul in the club who could sit down and tempt John and Tom back - on their terms. Maybe Robert Coar, ex-directors or chairmen, Ian Battersby, Wayne Wild, anyone who could broker it. Anyone.

John will know immediately what needs to be done. Venky’s must put their trust in him, back his decisions and give him complete authority to rebuild our once-proud club as fast as he can and restore the stability we once enjoyed.

That one decision – which would be their only correct one in two years of carnage – would set us on the road to recovery. I doubt anyone else could do it.

If Venky’s cannot pull it off, heaven help us.
wishful thinking I'm afraid. John Williams or Tom Finn wouldn't come back to work for Venky's. It was Venky's who got rid of them and they have gone on to other things. Need to replace Berg who is out of his depth. Unfortunately we are still waiting for Shabbies "Decisive Action" just don't hold your breath for any improvement in the way the club is run.
Agent Anderson got rid of John Williams – just as he had fashioned the departure of Sam. How could Venky’s possibly have done it? They had blind faith in their ‘advisor’ and how they must now wish they had never come into contact with him.

If they could bring themselves to explain and apologise to John and Tom for their foolishness in rubber-stamping Anderson’s flawed, self-interested ‘advice’, they might, just might, be able to bring them back.
[quote][p][bold]katrew[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roverfor60years[/bold] wrote: We are truly in a black place, a long dark tunnel with not a glimmer of hope as things stand. I said at the time John Williams had his contract terminated - to satisfy the avarice of Agent Anderson who wanted him out of the way to fulfil his sinister plan - that Venky's would live to rue the day. That day is here. My thoughts on what is wrong at Ewood are well documented and I have no reason to go through them all again. Suffice to say EVERYTHING is wrong from top to bottom. It is pointless calling for Venky’s to go, or for a new manager to be appointed. Where will we be then? It appears Venky’s are here to stay – for the foreseeable future, anyway. Mrs Desai and the Rao brothers have that future, perhaps our very existence as we know it, in the palm of their hands and in my view they can make only one decision that will save us – reappoint John Williams and Tom Finn, whatever it takes to do it. I know many will say ‘not a chance’. But they have GOT to make it happen. John knows this club inside out. He knows a lot of what has happened and what he doesn’t know he will quickly find out from past and present members of staff. And Venky’s will need to lay bare their souls, be open with him and fully explain why they have acted with such folly for so long. If they cannot do it themselves, get someone to do it for them. Someone with heart and soul in the club who could sit down and tempt John and Tom back - on their terms. Maybe Robert Coar, ex-directors or chairmen, Ian Battersby, Wayne Wild, anyone who could broker it. Anyone. John will know immediately what needs to be done. Venky’s must put their trust in him, back his decisions and give him complete authority to rebuild our once-proud club as fast as he can and restore the stability we once enjoyed. That one decision – which would be their only correct one in two years of carnage – would set us on the road to recovery. I doubt anyone else could do it. If Venky’s cannot pull it off, heaven help us.[/p][/quote]wishful thinking I'm afraid. John Williams or Tom Finn wouldn't come back to work for Venky's. It was Venky's who got rid of them and they have gone on to other things. Need to replace Berg who is out of his depth. Unfortunately we are still waiting for Shabbies "Decisive Action" just don't hold your breath for any improvement in the way the club is run.[/p][/quote]Agent Anderson got rid of John Williams – just as he had fashioned the departure of Sam. How could Venky’s possibly have done it? They had blind faith in their ‘advisor’ and how they must now wish they had never come into contact with him. If they could bring themselves to explain and apologise to John and Tom for their foolishness in rubber-stamping Anderson’s flawed, self-interested ‘advice’, they might, just might, be able to bring them back. roverfor60years

6:10pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Dannybhoy says...

Dropping Robbo made no sense, he is still the best keeper at the club.
Bringing Dunn back into the match day squad makes no sense, he is slow, overweight, injury prone and never been anywhere near as good as he thinks he is.
We need some steel in midfield and a passer of Tugay quality.
Rhodes needs help up front, he cant do it on his own.
And dont even mention that defence...
Dropping Robbo made no sense, he is still the best keeper at the club. Bringing Dunn back into the match day squad makes no sense, he is slow, overweight, injury prone and never been anywhere near as good as he thinks he is. We need some steel in midfield and a passer of Tugay quality. Rhodes needs help up front, he cant do it on his own. And dont even mention that defence... Dannybhoy

6:31pm Mon 17 Dec 12

J.C - Rishton says...

roverfor60years wrote:
katrew wrote:
roverfor60years wrote:
We are truly in a black place, a long dark tunnel with not a glimmer of hope as things stand.

I said at the time John Williams had his contract terminated - to satisfy the avarice of Agent Anderson who wanted him out of the way to fulfil his sinister plan - that Venky's would live to rue the day. That day is here.

My thoughts on what is wrong at Ewood are well documented and I have no reason to go through them all again. Suffice to say EVERYTHING is wrong from top to bottom. It is pointless calling for Venky’s to go, or for a new manager to be appointed. Where will we be then?

It appears Venky’s are here to stay – for the foreseeable future, anyway. Mrs Desai and the Rao brothers have that future, perhaps our very existence as we know it, in the palm of their hands and in my view they can make only one decision that will save us – reappoint John Williams and Tom Finn, whatever it takes to do it.

I know many will say ‘not a chance’. But they have GOT to make it happen. John knows this club inside out. He knows a lot of what has happened and what he doesn’t know he will quickly find out from past and present members of staff. And Venky’s will need to lay bare their souls, be open with him and fully explain why they have acted with such folly for so long.

If they cannot do it themselves, get someone to do it for them. Someone with heart and soul in the club who could sit down and tempt John and Tom back - on their terms. Maybe Robert Coar, ex-directors or chairmen, Ian Battersby, Wayne Wild, anyone who could broker it. Anyone.

John will know immediately what needs to be done. Venky’s must put their trust in him, back his decisions and give him complete authority to rebuild our once-proud club as fast as he can and restore the stability we once enjoyed.

That one decision – which would be their only correct one in two years of carnage – would set us on the road to recovery. I doubt anyone else could do it.

If Venky’s cannot pull it off, heaven help us.
wishful thinking I'm afraid. John Williams or Tom Finn wouldn't come back to work for Venky's. It was Venky's who got rid of them and they have gone on to other things. Need to replace Berg who is out of his depth. Unfortunately we are still waiting for Shabbies "Decisive Action" just don't hold your breath for any improvement in the way the club is run.
Agent Anderson got rid of John Williams – just as he had fashioned the departure of Sam. How could Venky’s possibly have done it? They had blind faith in their ‘advisor’ and how they must now wish they had never come into contact with him.

If they could bring themselves to explain and apologise to John and Tom for their foolishness in rubber-stamping Anderson’s flawed, self-interested ‘advice’, they might, just might, be able to bring them back.
I love the idea of JW returning but it will never happen for 2 simple reasons -

1 - He's now moved onto an even better job at MCFC.

2 - Venkys never make mistakes so they never have to appologise to anyone ! (or so they think).

(There is more chance of Rovers playing Champions league football in next 5 years than any of us plebs hearing them Venky scum appologise to anyone).
[quote][p][bold]roverfor60years[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]katrew[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roverfor60years[/bold] wrote: We are truly in a black place, a long dark tunnel with not a glimmer of hope as things stand. I said at the time John Williams had his contract terminated - to satisfy the avarice of Agent Anderson who wanted him out of the way to fulfil his sinister plan - that Venky's would live to rue the day. That day is here. My thoughts on what is wrong at Ewood are well documented and I have no reason to go through them all again. Suffice to say EVERYTHING is wrong from top to bottom. It is pointless calling for Venky’s to go, or for a new manager to be appointed. Where will we be then? It appears Venky’s are here to stay – for the foreseeable future, anyway. Mrs Desai and the Rao brothers have that future, perhaps our very existence as we know it, in the palm of their hands and in my view they can make only one decision that will save us – reappoint John Williams and Tom Finn, whatever it takes to do it. I know many will say ‘not a chance’. But they have GOT to make it happen. John knows this club inside out. He knows a lot of what has happened and what he doesn’t know he will quickly find out from past and present members of staff. And Venky’s will need to lay bare their souls, be open with him and fully explain why they have acted with such folly for so long. If they cannot do it themselves, get someone to do it for them. Someone with heart and soul in the club who could sit down and tempt John and Tom back - on their terms. Maybe Robert Coar, ex-directors or chairmen, Ian Battersby, Wayne Wild, anyone who could broker it. Anyone. John will know immediately what needs to be done. Venky’s must put their trust in him, back his decisions and give him complete authority to rebuild our once-proud club as fast as he can and restore the stability we once enjoyed. That one decision – which would be their only correct one in two years of carnage – would set us on the road to recovery. I doubt anyone else could do it. If Venky’s cannot pull it off, heaven help us.[/p][/quote]wishful thinking I'm afraid. John Williams or Tom Finn wouldn't come back to work for Venky's. It was Venky's who got rid of them and they have gone on to other things. Need to replace Berg who is out of his depth. Unfortunately we are still waiting for Shabbies "Decisive Action" just don't hold your breath for any improvement in the way the club is run.[/p][/quote]Agent Anderson got rid of John Williams – just as he had fashioned the departure of Sam. How could Venky’s possibly have done it? They had blind faith in their ‘advisor’ and how they must now wish they had never come into contact with him. If they could bring themselves to explain and apologise to John and Tom for their foolishness in rubber-stamping Anderson’s flawed, self-interested ‘advice’, they might, just might, be able to bring them back.[/p][/quote]I love the idea of JW returning but it will never happen for 2 simple reasons - 1 - He's now moved onto an even better job at MCFC. 2 - Venkys never make mistakes so they never have to appologise to anyone ! (or so they think). (There is more chance of Rovers playing Champions league football in next 5 years than any of us plebs hearing them Venky scum appologise to anyone). J.C - Rishton

6:38pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Stone Island: says...

roverfor60years wrote:
katrew wrote:
roverfor60years wrote:
We are truly in a black place, a long dark tunnel with not a glimmer of hope as things stand.

I said at the time John Williams had his contract terminated - to satisfy the avarice of Agent Anderson who wanted him out of the way to fulfil his sinister plan - that Venky's would live to rue the day. That day is here.

My thoughts on what is wrong at Ewood are well documented and I have no reason to go through them all again. Suffice to say EVERYTHING is wrong from top to bottom. It is pointless calling for Venky’s to go, or for a new manager to be appointed. Where will we be then?

It appears Venky’s are here to stay – for the foreseeable future, anyway. Mrs Desai and the Rao brothers have that future, perhaps our very existence as we know it, in the palm of their hands and in my view they can make only one decision that will save us – reappoint John Williams and Tom Finn, whatever it takes to do it.

I know many will say ‘not a chance’. But they have GOT to make it happen. John knows this club inside out. He knows a lot of what has happened and what he doesn’t know he will quickly find out from past and present members of staff. And Venky’s will need to lay bare their souls, be open with him and fully explain why they have acted with such folly for so long.

If they cannot do it themselves, get someone to do it for them. Someone with heart and soul in the club who could sit down and tempt John and Tom back - on their terms. Maybe Robert Coar, ex-directors or chairmen, Ian Battersby, Wayne Wild, anyone who could broker it. Anyone.

John will know immediately what needs to be done. Venky’s must put their trust in him, back his decisions and give him complete authority to rebuild our once-proud club as fast as he can and restore the stability we once enjoyed.

That one decision – which would be their only correct one in two years of carnage – would set us on the road to recovery. I doubt anyone else could do it.

If Venky’s cannot pull it off, heaven help us.
wishful thinking I'm afraid. John Williams or Tom Finn wouldn't come back to work for Venky's. It was Venky's who got rid of them and they have gone on to other things. Need to replace Berg who is out of his depth. Unfortunately we are still waiting for Shabbies "Decisive Action" just don't hold your breath for any improvement in the way the club is run.
Agent Anderson got rid of John Williams – just as he had fashioned the departure of Sam. How could Venky’s possibly have done it? They had blind faith in their ‘advisor’ and how they must now wish they had never come into contact with him.

If they could bring themselves to explain and apologise to John and Tom for their foolishness in rubber-stamping Anderson’s flawed, self-interested ‘advice’, they might, just might, be able to bring them back.
After the disgraceful way John Williams was treated by the vermin in India, there is absolutely NO CHANCE he would even contemplate a return. And I for one, wouldn't blame him.
[quote][p][bold]roverfor60years[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]katrew[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roverfor60years[/bold] wrote: We are truly in a black place, a long dark tunnel with not a glimmer of hope as things stand. I said at the time John Williams had his contract terminated - to satisfy the avarice of Agent Anderson who wanted him out of the way to fulfil his sinister plan - that Venky's would live to rue the day. That day is here. My thoughts on what is wrong at Ewood are well documented and I have no reason to go through them all again. Suffice to say EVERYTHING is wrong from top to bottom. It is pointless calling for Venky’s to go, or for a new manager to be appointed. Where will we be then? It appears Venky’s are here to stay – for the foreseeable future, anyway. Mrs Desai and the Rao brothers have that future, perhaps our very existence as we know it, in the palm of their hands and in my view they can make only one decision that will save us – reappoint John Williams and Tom Finn, whatever it takes to do it. I know many will say ‘not a chance’. But they have GOT to make it happen. John knows this club inside out. He knows a lot of what has happened and what he doesn’t know he will quickly find out from past and present members of staff. And Venky’s will need to lay bare their souls, be open with him and fully explain why they have acted with such folly for so long. If they cannot do it themselves, get someone to do it for them. Someone with heart and soul in the club who could sit down and tempt John and Tom back - on their terms. Maybe Robert Coar, ex-directors or chairmen, Ian Battersby, Wayne Wild, anyone who could broker it. Anyone. John will know immediately what needs to be done. Venky’s must put their trust in him, back his decisions and give him complete authority to rebuild our once-proud club as fast as he can and restore the stability we once enjoyed. That one decision – which would be their only correct one in two years of carnage – would set us on the road to recovery. I doubt anyone else could do it. If Venky’s cannot pull it off, heaven help us.[/p][/quote]wishful thinking I'm afraid. John Williams or Tom Finn wouldn't come back to work for Venky's. It was Venky's who got rid of them and they have gone on to other things. Need to replace Berg who is out of his depth. Unfortunately we are still waiting for Shabbies "Decisive Action" just don't hold your breath for any improvement in the way the club is run.[/p][/quote]Agent Anderson got rid of John Williams – just as he had fashioned the departure of Sam. How could Venky’s possibly have done it? They had blind faith in their ‘advisor’ and how they must now wish they had never come into contact with him. If they could bring themselves to explain and apologise to John and Tom for their foolishness in rubber-stamping Anderson’s flawed, self-interested ‘advice’, they might, just might, be able to bring them back.[/p][/quote]After the disgraceful way John Williams was treated by the vermin in India, there is absolutely NO CHANCE he would even contemplate a return. And I for one, wouldn't blame him. Stone Island:

6:49pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Stone Island: says...

Rovers75 wrote:
Tom F. wrote:
Bring back steve kean!
He had the support of the players.
Disgracefull treatment from the Kean out supporters.
Don,t blame venkey,s you lot are to blame.
Top of the league with Keano.
Bottom 3/4 with Berg,unless he goes.
Is that you madame? Do you want your ikkle stevie weavy back? What does the F stand for Tom? F - ull of sh1te?

What about relegated with Keano - nothing more than a lying, backstabbing, drunkard, manipulating, deceitful, two-faced rich man - courtesy of BRFC.

Criminals the lot of 'em - including you Tom for posting such sewerage.
It wouldn't surprise me if this Tom fella, was actually Kean himself. To cause such a division between fans, was a classic Kean tactic. He did it to divert blame away from himself. He did this right until the bitter end, saying he was forced out. No doubt he will be making a claim for constructive dismissal very shortly.

The 'man' is beneath contempt.
[quote][p][bold]Rovers75[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tom F.[/bold] wrote: Bring back steve kean! He had the support of the players. Disgracefull treatment from the Kean out supporters. Don,t blame venkey,s you lot are to blame. Top of the league with Keano. Bottom 3/4 with Berg,unless he goes.[/p][/quote]Is that you madame? Do you want your ikkle stevie weavy back? What does the F stand for Tom? F - ull of sh1te? What about relegated with Keano - nothing more than a lying, backstabbing, drunkard, manipulating, deceitful, two-faced rich man - courtesy of BRFC. Criminals the lot of 'em - including you Tom for posting such sewerage.[/p][/quote]It wouldn't surprise me if this Tom fella, was actually Kean himself. To cause such a division between fans, was a classic Kean tactic. He did it to divert blame away from himself. He did this right until the bitter end, saying he was forced out. No doubt he will be making a claim for constructive dismissal very shortly. The 'man' is beneath contempt. Stone Island:

7:20pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Ewood say that! says...

The chosen incoming manager should have been someone who had a reliable backroom team ready to come with him straightaway! Rovers were desperate for someone with experience who could hit the ground running, but we got the cheaper option and someone with no real managerial expertise at all and certainly no backroom team.
If we get beat on Saturday then we are facing a battle not to get drawn into the relegation mire.As for the long term future of the club,if we don't improve massively in the second half of the season then we could be facing gates of around 8,000 next year!!
The chosen incoming manager should have been someone who had a reliable backroom team ready to come with him straightaway! Rovers were desperate for someone with experience who could hit the ground running, but we got the cheaper option and someone with no real managerial expertise at all and certainly no backroom team. If we get beat on Saturday then we are facing a battle not to get drawn into the relegation mire.As for the long term future of the club,if we don't improve massively in the second half of the season then we could be facing gates of around 8,000 next year!! Ewood say that!

7:21pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Tom F. says...

Stone Island: wrote:
Rovers75 wrote:
Tom F. wrote:
Bring back steve kean!
He had the support of the players.
Disgracefull treatment from the Kean out supporters.
Don,t blame venkey,s you lot are to blame.
Top of the league with Keano.
Bottom 3/4 with Berg,unless he goes.
Is that you madame? Do you want your ikkle stevie weavy back? What does the F stand for Tom? F - ull of sh1te?

What about relegated with Keano - nothing more than a lying, backstabbing, drunkard, manipulating, deceitful, two-faced rich man - courtesy of BRFC.

Criminals the lot of 'em - including you Tom for posting such sewerage.
It wouldn't surprise me if this Tom fella, was actually Kean himself. To cause such a division between fans, was a classic Kean tactic. He did it to divert blame away from himself. He did this right until the bitter end, saying he was forced out. No doubt he will be making a claim for constructive dismissal very shortly.

The 'man' is beneath contempt.
Keano will laugh his butt off ;-) cause of all your clueless lines. At least he has a Bank account fuuuuuull of money :-) and what do you guys have,......oh yeah, the boooooooooooos.
[quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rovers75[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tom F.[/bold] wrote: Bring back steve kean! He had the support of the players. Disgracefull treatment from the Kean out supporters. Don,t blame venkey,s you lot are to blame. Top of the league with Keano. Bottom 3/4 with Berg,unless he goes.[/p][/quote]Is that you madame? Do you want your ikkle stevie weavy back? What does the F stand for Tom? F - ull of sh1te? What about relegated with Keano - nothing more than a lying, backstabbing, drunkard, manipulating, deceitful, two-faced rich man - courtesy of BRFC. Criminals the lot of 'em - including you Tom for posting such sewerage.[/p][/quote]It wouldn't surprise me if this Tom fella, was actually Kean himself. To cause such a division between fans, was a classic Kean tactic. He did it to divert blame away from himself. He did this right until the bitter end, saying he was forced out. No doubt he will be making a claim for constructive dismissal very shortly. The 'man' is beneath contempt.[/p][/quote]Keano will laugh his butt off ;-) cause of all your clueless lines. At least he has a Bank account fuuuuuull of money :-) and what do you guys have,......oh yeah, the boooooooooooos. Tom F.

7:22pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Tom F. says...

Boooooo Boys leave rovers alone!
Boooooo Boys leave rovers alone! Tom F.

7:33pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Stone Island: says...

Tom F. wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
Rovers75 wrote:
Tom F. wrote:
Bring back steve kean!
He had the support of the players.
Disgracefull treatment from the Kean out supporters.
Don,t blame venkey,s you lot are to blame.
Top of the league with Keano.
Bottom 3/4 with Berg,unless he goes.
Is that you madame? Do you want your ikkle stevie weavy back? What does the F stand for Tom? F - ull of sh1te?

What about relegated with Keano - nothing more than a lying, backstabbing, drunkard, manipulating, deceitful, two-faced rich man - courtesy of BRFC.

Criminals the lot of 'em - including you Tom for posting such sewerage.
It wouldn't surprise me if this Tom fella, was actually Kean himself. To cause such a division between fans, was a classic Kean tactic. He did it to divert blame away from himself. He did this right until the bitter end, saying he was forced out. No doubt he will be making a claim for constructive dismissal very shortly.

The 'man' is beneath contempt.
Keano will laugh his butt off ;-) cause of all your clueless lines. At least he has a Bank account fuuuuuull of money :-) and what do you guys have,......oh yeah, the boooooooooooos.
I think my suspicions have been confirmed. So Steve, are you suing Rovers then? It was obvious from the outset, that money was your only goal. You and Hans Christian have certainly had a field day. Have you no shame, you despicable human being!
[quote][p][bold]Tom F.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rovers75[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tom F.[/bold] wrote: Bring back steve kean! He had the support of the players. Disgracefull treatment from the Kean out supporters. Don,t blame venkey,s you lot are to blame. Top of the league with Keano. Bottom 3/4 with Berg,unless he goes.[/p][/quote]Is that you madame? Do you want your ikkle stevie weavy back? What does the F stand for Tom? F - ull of sh1te? What about relegated with Keano - nothing more than a lying, backstabbing, drunkard, manipulating, deceitful, two-faced rich man - courtesy of BRFC. Criminals the lot of 'em - including you Tom for posting such sewerage.[/p][/quote]It wouldn't surprise me if this Tom fella, was actually Kean himself. To cause such a division between fans, was a classic Kean tactic. He did it to divert blame away from himself. He did this right until the bitter end, saying he was forced out. No doubt he will be making a claim for constructive dismissal very shortly. The 'man' is beneath contempt.[/p][/quote]Keano will laugh his butt off ;-) cause of all your clueless lines. At least he has a Bank account fuuuuuull of money :-) and what do you guys have,......oh yeah, the boooooooooooos.[/p][/quote]I think my suspicions have been confirmed. So Steve, are you suing Rovers then? It was obvious from the outset, that money was your only goal. You and Hans Christian have certainly had a field day. Have you no shame, you despicable human being! Stone Island:

8:05pm Mon 17 Dec 12

leitchy says...

We r supporters who go to the match and should do exactly that SUPPORT !! Those idiots who gave grief to the players whilst they're playing are pathetic.
That is not helping the team and in the 1st half against Blackpool we played well, we just needed to support the team better in the 2nd half and maybe things could of been different....the players instantly looked nervous and clearly no confidence and then to make things worse the fans started to shout at them,...
Well done fans, stay away if you don't want to SUPPORT, cause right now you're not helping anyone.
We r supporters who go to the match and should do exactly that SUPPORT !! Those idiots who gave grief to the players whilst they're playing are pathetic. That is not helping the team and in the 1st half against Blackpool we played well, we just needed to support the team better in the 2nd half and maybe things could of been different....the players instantly looked nervous and clearly no confidence and then to make things worse the fans started to shout at them,... Well done fans, stay away if you don't want to SUPPORT, cause right now you're not helping anyone. leitchy

8:10pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Dr Zinc says...

The goalkeeper is the last position that needed looking at
I personally think that Robinson has been getting too much stick recently
Can anybody really suggest that our terrible form has been down to him?
Look at the goals on Saturday, the last thing we needed was another experienced player being dropped from the team!
Robinson can help organise the back four, more so than a young keeper like Kean can.
I find it incredible that Berg dropped Robinson and yet starts with players like Dann and especially Etuhu
Very unimpressed with Berg so far, it takes him far too long to make changes and when he does they are puzzling and ineffective
Why cant he get it right for the start of a match? How can he keep playing Etuhu?
He appears to be clueless and there is certainly no sign of any improvement
In fact we are going backwards
The players have no motivation or confidence and that stems from the manager who hardly comes across as inspiring
I cant see any improvement on the horizon with this lot in charge
There is nobody with any credibility left at the club
Just an empty gloomy shell of a club, run by buffoons
The goalkeeper is the last position that needed looking at I personally think that Robinson has been getting too much stick recently Can anybody really suggest that our terrible form has been down to him? Look at the goals on Saturday, the last thing we needed was another experienced player being dropped from the team! Robinson can help organise the back four, more so than a young keeper like Kean can. I find it incredible that Berg dropped Robinson and yet starts with players like Dann and especially Etuhu Very unimpressed with Berg so far, it takes him far too long to make changes and when he does they are puzzling and ineffective Why cant he get it right for the start of a match? How can he keep playing Etuhu? He appears to be clueless and there is certainly no sign of any improvement In fact we are going backwards The players have no motivation or confidence and that stems from the manager who hardly comes across as inspiring I cant see any improvement on the horizon with this lot in charge There is nobody with any credibility left at the club Just an empty gloomy shell of a club, run by buffoons Dr Zinc

8:12pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Rovers75 says...

Tom F. wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
Rovers75 wrote:
Tom F. wrote:
Bring back steve kean!
He had the support of the players.
Disgracefull treatment from the Kean out supporters.
Don,t blame venkey,s you lot are to blame.
Top of the league with Keano.
Bottom 3/4 with Berg,unless he goes.
Is that you madame? Do you want your ikkle stevie weavy back? What does the F stand for Tom? F - ull of sh1te?

What about relegated with Keano - nothing more than a lying, backstabbing, drunkard, manipulating, deceitful, two-faced rich man - courtesy of BRFC.

Criminals the lot of 'em - including you Tom for posting such sewerage.
It wouldn't surprise me if this Tom fella, was actually Kean himself. To cause such a division between fans, was a classic Kean tactic. He did it to divert blame away from himself. He did this right until the bitter end, saying he was forced out. No doubt he will be making a claim for constructive dismissal very shortly.

The 'man' is beneath contempt.
Keano will laugh his butt off ;-) cause of all your clueless lines. At least he has a Bank account fuuuuuull of money :-) and what do you guys have,......oh yeah, the boooooooooooos.
Clueless lines?
Read my post again - Tom/Steve/Dingle/Ven
ky/Singh/Anderson/En
emy

......lying, backstabbing, drunkard, manipulating, deceitful, two-faced RICH MAN - COURTESY OF BRFC.

Find some other way to amuse your polluted imagination
[quote][p][bold]Tom F.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rovers75[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tom F.[/bold] wrote: Bring back steve kean! He had the support of the players. Disgracefull treatment from the Kean out supporters. Don,t blame venkey,s you lot are to blame. Top of the league with Keano. Bottom 3/4 with Berg,unless he goes.[/p][/quote]Is that you madame? Do you want your ikkle stevie weavy back? What does the F stand for Tom? F - ull of sh1te? What about relegated with Keano - nothing more than a lying, backstabbing, drunkard, manipulating, deceitful, two-faced rich man - courtesy of BRFC. Criminals the lot of 'em - including you Tom for posting such sewerage.[/p][/quote]It wouldn't surprise me if this Tom fella, was actually Kean himself. To cause such a division between fans, was a classic Kean tactic. He did it to divert blame away from himself. He did this right until the bitter end, saying he was forced out. No doubt he will be making a claim for constructive dismissal very shortly. The 'man' is beneath contempt.[/p][/quote]Keano will laugh his butt off ;-) cause of all your clueless lines. At least he has a Bank account fuuuuuull of money :-) and what do you guys have,......oh yeah, the boooooooooooos.[/p][/quote]Clueless lines? Read my post again - Tom/Steve/Dingle/Ven ky/Singh/Anderson/En emy ......lying, backstabbing, drunkard, manipulating, deceitful, two-faced RICH MAN - COURTESY OF BRFC. Find some other way to amuse your polluted imagination Rovers75

8:16pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Stone Island: says...

Dr Zinc wrote:
The goalkeeper is the last position that needed looking at
I personally think that Robinson has been getting too much stick recently
Can anybody really suggest that our terrible form has been down to him?
Look at the goals on Saturday, the last thing we needed was another experienced player being dropped from the team!
Robinson can help organise the back four, more so than a young keeper like Kean can.
I find it incredible that Berg dropped Robinson and yet starts with players like Dann and especially Etuhu
Very unimpressed with Berg so far, it takes him far too long to make changes and when he does they are puzzling and ineffective
Why cant he get it right for the start of a match? How can he keep playing Etuhu?
He appears to be clueless and there is certainly no sign of any improvement
In fact we are going backwards
The players have no motivation or confidence and that stems from the manager who hardly comes across as inspiring
I cant see any improvement on the horizon with this lot in charge
There is nobody with any credibility left at the club
Just an empty gloomy shell of a club, run by buffoons
Well said that man, spot on. It will be interesting to see who keeps goal against Brighton.
[quote][p][bold]Dr Zinc[/bold] wrote: The goalkeeper is the last position that needed looking at I personally think that Robinson has been getting too much stick recently Can anybody really suggest that our terrible form has been down to him? Look at the goals on Saturday, the last thing we needed was another experienced player being dropped from the team! Robinson can help organise the back four, more so than a young keeper like Kean can. I find it incredible that Berg dropped Robinson and yet starts with players like Dann and especially Etuhu Very unimpressed with Berg so far, it takes him far too long to make changes and when he does they are puzzling and ineffective Why cant he get it right for the start of a match? How can he keep playing Etuhu? He appears to be clueless and there is certainly no sign of any improvement In fact we are going backwards The players have no motivation or confidence and that stems from the manager who hardly comes across as inspiring I cant see any improvement on the horizon with this lot in charge There is nobody with any credibility left at the club Just an empty gloomy shell of a club, run by buffoons[/p][/quote]Well said that man, spot on. It will be interesting to see who keeps goal against Brighton. Stone Island:

8:28pm Mon 17 Dec 12

merlinrabbit says...

Stone Island: wrote:
Dr Zinc wrote:
The goalkeeper is the last position that needed looking at
I personally think that Robinson has been getting too much stick recently
Can anybody really suggest that our terrible form has been down to him?
Look at the goals on Saturday, the last thing we needed was another experienced player being dropped from the team!
Robinson can help organise the back four, more so than a young keeper like Kean can.
I find it incredible that Berg dropped Robinson and yet starts with players like Dann and especially Etuhu
Very unimpressed with Berg so far, it takes him far too long to make changes and when he does they are puzzling and ineffective
Why cant he get it right for the start of a match? How can he keep playing Etuhu?
He appears to be clueless and there is certainly no sign of any improvement
In fact we are going backwards
The players have no motivation or confidence and that stems from the manager who hardly comes across as inspiring
I cant see any improvement on the horizon with this lot in charge
There is nobody with any credibility left at the club
Just an empty gloomy shell of a club, run by buffoons
Well said that man, spot on. It will be interesting to see who keeps goal against Brighton.
I agree with you about Robinson. Trying to keep goal behind our back four and midfield makes it very difficult for Robinson and yet it reads as though Berg has highlighted his performance as affecting results. its ridiculous and doesnt instill me with any confidence let alone the players. For all we know there could have been an argument before that Blackpool game. Professional players, highly paid or not, performing as an employee of that circus must be getting extremely challenging. They must be wondering what clown is coming along next
[quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dr Zinc[/bold] wrote: The goalkeeper is the last position that needed looking at I personally think that Robinson has been getting too much stick recently Can anybody really suggest that our terrible form has been down to him? Look at the goals on Saturday, the last thing we needed was another experienced player being dropped from the team! Robinson can help organise the back four, more so than a young keeper like Kean can. I find it incredible that Berg dropped Robinson and yet starts with players like Dann and especially Etuhu Very unimpressed with Berg so far, it takes him far too long to make changes and when he does they are puzzling and ineffective Why cant he get it right for the start of a match? How can he keep playing Etuhu? He appears to be clueless and there is certainly no sign of any improvement In fact we are going backwards The players have no motivation or confidence and that stems from the manager who hardly comes across as inspiring I cant see any improvement on the horizon with this lot in charge There is nobody with any credibility left at the club Just an empty gloomy shell of a club, run by buffoons[/p][/quote]Well said that man, spot on. It will be interesting to see who keeps goal against Brighton.[/p][/quote]I agree with you about Robinson. Trying to keep goal behind our back four and midfield makes it very difficult for Robinson and yet it reads as though Berg has highlighted his performance as affecting results. its ridiculous and doesnt instill me with any confidence let alone the players. For all we know there could have been an argument before that Blackpool game. Professional players, highly paid or not, performing as an employee of that circus must be getting extremely challenging. They must be wondering what clown is coming along next merlinrabbit

8:33pm Mon 17 Dec 12

merlinrabbit says...

Dan11 wrote:
Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:
Theres a lot of tools on here today. On Robinson, the worst goalkeeper in the premier league last year by a country mile starts this season carrying more weight than the last. Stats don't lie, shots on target to goals conceded means we should have kept Bunn and let Robbo go in close season. But all on here getting glassy eyed. The reason we got relegated are still pulling on the shirt. Berg needs to sort this Kean mess out, Can't believe some on here claiming Kean was now a good manager. He got you relegated.
Yes that is right. Robinson was the worst goalkeeper in the premier last season by a country mile- 20th out of 20th. He also doesnt do the other things very well- coming for crosses and commanding his penalty area. Subsequent to that this season he turned up another stone overweight and looks even more disinterested than in the last

Letting go of Bunn was a big mistake, and look at where Norwich are now with him in goal.
Magnificent seven "he got you relegated"?? "you"?? Are you not one of us then? Identify yourself
[quote][p][bold]Dan11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: Theres a lot of tools on here today. On Robinson, the worst goalkeeper in the premier league last year by a country mile starts this season carrying more weight than the last. Stats don't lie, shots on target to goals conceded means we should have kept Bunn and let Robbo go in close season. But all on here getting glassy eyed. The reason we got relegated are still pulling on the shirt. Berg needs to sort this Kean mess out, Can't believe some on here claiming Kean was now a good manager. He got you relegated.[/p][/quote]Yes that is right. Robinson was the worst goalkeeper in the premier last season by a country mile- 20th out of 20th. He also doesnt do the other things very well- coming for crosses and commanding his penalty area. Subsequent to that this season he turned up another stone overweight and looks even more disinterested than in the last Letting go of Bunn was a big mistake, and look at where Norwich are now with him in goal.[/p][/quote]Magnificent seven "he got you relegated"?? "you"?? Are you not one of us then? Identify yourself merlinrabbit

8:58pm Mon 17 Dec 12

flowersorseaman? says...

Dannybhoy wrote:
Dropping Robbo made no sense, he is still the best keeper at the club.
Bringing Dunn back into the match day squad makes no sense, he is slow, overweight, injury prone and never been anywhere near as good as he thinks he is.
We need some steel in midfield and a passer of Tugay quality.
Rhodes needs help up front, he cant do it on his own.
And dont even mention that defence...
Really, bringing Dunny back makes no sense! Are you watching the same tripe through the middle as everyone else?
[quote][p][bold]Dannybhoy[/bold] wrote: Dropping Robbo made no sense, he is still the best keeper at the club. Bringing Dunn back into the match day squad makes no sense, he is slow, overweight, injury prone and never been anywhere near as good as he thinks he is. We need some steel in midfield and a passer of Tugay quality. Rhodes needs help up front, he cant do it on his own. And dont even mention that defence...[/p][/quote]Really, bringing Dunny back makes no sense! Are you watching the same tripe through the middle as everyone else? flowersorseaman?

9:13pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Return of the Magnificent se7en says...

merlinrabbit wrote:
Dan11 wrote:
Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:
Theres a lot of tools on here today. On Robinson, the worst goalkeeper in the premier league last year by a country mile starts this season carrying more weight than the last. Stats don't lie, shots on target to goals conceded means we should have kept Bunn and let Robbo go in close season. But all on here getting glassy eyed. The reason we got relegated are still pulling on the shirt. Berg needs to sort this Kean mess out, Can't believe some on here claiming Kean was now a good manager. He got you relegated.
Yes that is right. Robinson was the worst goalkeeper in the premier last season by a country mile- 20th out of 20th. He also doesnt do the other things very well- coming for crosses and commanding his penalty area. Subsequent to that this season he turned up another stone overweight and looks even more disinterested than in the last

Letting go of Bunn was a big mistake, and look at where Norwich are now with him in goal.
Magnificent seven "he got you relegated"?? "you"?? Are you not one of us then? Identify yourself
Okay then just for you, here you go, this is me looking straight into my webcam..............
....................
.......
The reason for me choosing those words is that I am under no illusion, I know he got us relegated, but some on here haven't got a clue, actually thinking Kean was a promotion contender and Robbo a good goalkeeper Kean was a cone placer, Robbo is a good shot stopper, ore maybe not as according to stats, he ws worst keeper in the premier league
[quote][p][bold]merlinrabbit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dan11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: Theres a lot of tools on here today. On Robinson, the worst goalkeeper in the premier league last year by a country mile starts this season carrying more weight than the last. Stats don't lie, shots on target to goals conceded means we should have kept Bunn and let Robbo go in close season. But all on here getting glassy eyed. The reason we got relegated are still pulling on the shirt. Berg needs to sort this Kean mess out, Can't believe some on here claiming Kean was now a good manager. He got you relegated.[/p][/quote]Yes that is right. Robinson was the worst goalkeeper in the premier last season by a country mile- 20th out of 20th. He also doesnt do the other things very well- coming for crosses and commanding his penalty area. Subsequent to that this season he turned up another stone overweight and looks even more disinterested than in the last Letting go of Bunn was a big mistake, and look at where Norwich are now with him in goal.[/p][/quote]Magnificent seven "he got you relegated"?? "you"?? Are you not one of us then? Identify yourself[/p][/quote]Okay then just for you, here you go, this is me looking straight into my webcam.............. .................... ....... The reason for me choosing those words is that I am under no illusion, I know he got us relegated, but some on here haven't got a clue, actually thinking Kean was a promotion contender and Robbo a good goalkeeper Kean was a cone placer, Robbo is a good shot stopper, ore maybe not as according to stats, he ws worst keeper in the premier league Return of the Magnificent se7en

9:55pm Mon 17 Dec 12

kazluvsrovers says...

Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:
merlinrabbit wrote:
Dan11 wrote:
Return of the Magnificent se7en wrote:
Theres a lot of tools on here today. On Robinson, the worst goalkeeper in the premier league last year by a country mile starts this season carrying more weight than the last. Stats don't lie, shots on target to goals conceded means we should have kept Bunn and let Robbo go in close season. But all on here getting glassy eyed. The reason we got relegated are still pulling on the shirt. Berg needs to sort this Kean mess out, Can't believe some on here claiming Kean was now a good manager. He got you relegated.
Yes that is right. Robinson was the worst goalkeeper in the premier last season by a country mile- 20th out of 20th. He also doesnt do the other things very well- coming for crosses and commanding his penalty area. Subsequent to that this season he turned up another stone overweight and looks even more disinterested than in the last

Letting go of Bunn was a big mistake, and look at where Norwich are now with him in goal.
Magnificent seven "he got you relegated"?? "you"?? Are you not one of us then? Identify yourself
Okay then just for you, here you go, this is me looking straight into my webcam..............

....................

.......
The reason for me choosing those words is that I am under no illusion, I know he got us relegated, but some on here haven't got a clue, actually thinking Kean was a promotion contender and Robbo a good goalkeeper Kean was a cone placer, Robbo is a good shot stopper, ore maybe not as according to stats, he ws worst keeper in the premier league
I agree, Robbo has definitely gone off the boil
and sometimes blames his defence when it has actually been his wrong doing.
He punches the ball rather than catching it and I really dont have the faith in him that I used to.
You cant blame Henning for letting Kean have a chance and I hope he is in the net for the next home game when the fans can get behind him.
COYB!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]merlinrabbit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dan11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Return of the Magnificent se7en[/bold] wrote: Theres a lot of tools on here today. On Robinson, the worst goalkeeper in the premier league last year by a country mile starts this season carrying more weight than the last. Stats don't lie, shots on target to goals conceded means we should have kept Bunn and let Robbo go in close season. But all on here getting glassy eyed. The reason we got relegated are still pulling on the shirt. Berg needs to sort this Kean mess out, Can't believe some on here claiming Kean was now a good manager. He got you relegated.[/p][/quote]Yes that is right. Robinson was the worst goalkeeper in the premier last season by a country mile- 20th out of 20th. He also doesnt do the other things very well- coming for crosses and commanding his penalty area. Subsequent to that this season he turned up another stone overweight and looks even more disinterested than in the last Letting go of Bunn was a big mistake, and look at where Norwich are now with him in goal.[/p][/quote]Magnificent seven "he got you relegated"?? "you"?? Are you not one of us then? Identify yourself[/p][/quote]Okay then just for you, here you go, this is me looking straight into my webcam.............. .................... ....... The reason for me choosing those words is that I am under no illusion, I know he got us relegated, but some on here haven't got a clue, actually thinking Kean was a promotion contender and Robbo a good goalkeeper Kean was a cone placer, Robbo is a good shot stopper, ore maybe not as according to stats, he ws worst keeper in the premier league[/p][/quote]I agree, Robbo has definitely gone off the boil and sometimes blames his defence when it has actually been his wrong doing. He punches the ball rather than catching it and I really dont have the faith in him that I used to. You cant blame Henning for letting Kean have a chance and I hope he is in the net for the next home game when the fans can get behind him. COYB!!!! kazluvsrovers

11:09pm Mon 17 Dec 12

i8dingles says...

6 fingered Yorkshire filth, your mums your dad, your dads your mum, your interbred you Yorkshire scum, RTID
6 fingered Yorkshire filth, your mums your dad, your dads your mum, your interbred you Yorkshire scum, RTID i8dingles

2:20am Tue 18 Dec 12

French Rover says...

Stone Island: wrote:
Dr Zinc wrote:
The goalkeeper is the last position that needed looking at
I personally think that Robinson has been getting too much stick recently
Can anybody really suggest that our terrible form has been down to him?
Look at the goals on Saturday, the last thing we needed was another experienced player being dropped from the team!
Robinson can help organise the back four, more so than a young keeper like Kean can.
I find it incredible that Berg dropped Robinson and yet starts with players like Dann and especially Etuhu
Very unimpressed with Berg so far, it takes him far too long to make changes and when he does they are puzzling and ineffective
Why cant he get it right for the start of a match? How can he keep playing Etuhu?
He appears to be clueless and there is certainly no sign of any improvement
In fact we are going backwards
The players have no motivation or confidence and that stems from the manager who hardly comes across as inspiring
I cant see any improvement on the horizon with this lot in charge
There is nobody with any credibility left at the club
Just an empty gloomy shell of a club, run by buffoons
Well said that man, spot on. It will be interesting to see who keeps goal against Brighton.
Fred Else is my call.....
[quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dr Zinc[/bold] wrote: The goalkeeper is the last position that needed looking at I personally think that Robinson has been getting too much stick recently Can anybody really suggest that our terrible form has been down to him? Look at the goals on Saturday, the last thing we needed was another experienced player being dropped from the team! Robinson can help organise the back four, more so than a young keeper like Kean can. I find it incredible that Berg dropped Robinson and yet starts with players like Dann and especially Etuhu Very unimpressed with Berg so far, it takes him far too long to make changes and when he does they are puzzling and ineffective Why cant he get it right for the start of a match? How can he keep playing Etuhu? He appears to be clueless and there is certainly no sign of any improvement In fact we are going backwards The players have no motivation or confidence and that stems from the manager who hardly comes across as inspiring I cant see any improvement on the horizon with this lot in charge There is nobody with any credibility left at the club Just an empty gloomy shell of a club, run by buffoons[/p][/quote]Well said that man, spot on. It will be interesting to see who keeps goal against Brighton.[/p][/quote]Fred Else is my call..... French Rover

2:53am Tue 18 Dec 12

silverstan says...

Followed Rovers home & away since 1969, & never known the place in such utter turmoil, we know we'll never have another Jack Walker, but having theses clueless, non footballing chicken pluckers in charge is beyond me. Stanley have plenty of tickets, might pop down to the Crown ground till this **** is sorted !!!
Followed Rovers home & away since 1969, & never known the place in such utter turmoil, we know we'll never have another Jack Walker, but having theses clueless, non footballing chicken pluckers in charge is beyond me. Stanley have plenty of tickets, might pop down to the Crown ground till this **** is sorted !!! silverstan

8:19am Tue 18 Dec 12

A Darener says...

Fred Else, well that should be a clean sheet then!
Fred Else, well that should be a clean sheet then! A Darener

8:51am Tue 18 Dec 12

dad-jon123 says...

Just read todays LET the backroom staff put on hold till January by the board (yet another joke) . Goes to show who is runnng team affairs and its certainly not Henning Berg if he can't even change his number two. Seems to me he is not picking the team either and like Kean he is not allowed to bring substitutions on unless a certain person allows him to. Walk away now Berg while your still a rovers legend and let Shebby run the mess those Indians have created.
Just read todays LET the backroom staff put on hold till January by the board (yet another joke) . Goes to show who is runnng team affairs and its certainly not Henning Berg if he can't even change his number two. Seems to me he is not picking the team either and like Kean he is not allowed to bring substitutions on unless a certain person allows him to. Walk away now Berg while your still a rovers legend and let Shebby run the mess those Indians have created. dad-jon123

8:55am Tue 18 Dec 12

fanny_tickler. says...

i8dingles wrote:
6 fingered Yorkshire filth, your mums your dad, your dads your mum, your interbred you Yorkshire scum, RTID
Six-fingered Yorkshire filth. Always tickles me that one. Now wipe your chin and get back to your crayons.
[quote][p][bold]i8dingles[/bold] wrote: 6 fingered Yorkshire filth, your mums your dad, your dads your mum, your interbred you Yorkshire scum, RTID[/p][/quote]Six-fingered Yorkshire filth. Always tickles me that one. Now wipe your chin and get back to your crayons. fanny_tickler.

9:42am Tue 18 Dec 12

Inthepointyend says...

fanny_tickler. wrote:
i8dingles wrote:
6 fingered Yorkshire filth, your mums your dad, your dads your mum, your interbred you Yorkshire scum, RTID
Six-fingered Yorkshire filth. Always tickles me that one. Now wipe your chin and get back to your crayons.
Think you'll find that what always tickles you is your "Dad", or possibly your sister on a good day.
[quote][p][bold]fanny_tickler.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]i8dingles[/bold] wrote: 6 fingered Yorkshire filth, your mums your dad, your dads your mum, your interbred you Yorkshire scum, RTID[/p][/quote]Six-fingered Yorkshire filth. Always tickles me that one. Now wipe your chin and get back to your crayons.[/p][/quote]Think you'll find that what always tickles you is your "Dad", or possibly your sister on a good day. Inthepointyend

9:57am Tue 18 Dec 12

fanny_tickler. says...

Inthepointyend wrote:
fanny_tickler. wrote:
i8dingles wrote:
6 fingered Yorkshire filth, your mums your dad, your dads your mum, your interbred you Yorkshire scum, RTID
Six-fingered Yorkshire filth. Always tickles me that one. Now wipe your chin and get back to your crayons.
Think you'll find that what always tickles you is your "Dad", or possibly your sister on a good day.
... or yer mum on a Tuesday.
[quote][p][bold]Inthepointyend[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fanny_tickler.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]i8dingles[/bold] wrote: 6 fingered Yorkshire filth, your mums your dad, your dads your mum, your interbred you Yorkshire scum, RTID[/p][/quote]Six-fingered Yorkshire filth. Always tickles me that one. Now wipe your chin and get back to your crayons.[/p][/quote]Think you'll find that what always tickles you is your "Dad", or possibly your sister on a good day.[/p][/quote]... or yer mum on a Tuesday. fanny_tickler.

12:10pm Tue 18 Dec 12

Captain Dreckley says...

£69m on the euromillions tonight. Lets all buy a ticket and hope we win and can buy Venkys out
£69m on the euromillions tonight. Lets all buy a ticket and hope we win and can buy Venkys out Captain Dreckley

1:05pm Tue 18 Dec 12

angryandy says...

fitz,
i'm not sure you can be so arbitrary to suggest that dropping senior players is a bad thing. for example, a young'un could easliy come in and inspire a revival by playing without fear of consequence.
for me, robbo has been at least shaky for a while now, and i don't think he could claim to be at peak fitness. we have a young lad that seems to be performing in training, so it could easily be the right decision to make the change. as stated, he didn't personally to a huge amount wrong on saturday.
and it doesn't make sense to say that berg should focus on the defence first. he should be able to consider the makeup of all areas of the squad. the problem with the defence is that we don't have a huge amount of decent cover and the existing unit is weak. on top of that, we have a central midfield that is hugely problematic without much cover also. so making wholesale changes there might be nice, but is almost impossible at the moment.
given that much of what we all feel is wrong with the squad is a lack of energy and commitment, maybe the manager showing he is willing to drop under-performing players is a good thing.

Fully agree with your post and maybe it could inspire competition for places in general which should lead to a lot more commitment from the entire squad, but I won't hold my breath.
fitz, i'm not sure you can be so arbitrary to suggest that dropping senior players is a bad thing. for example, a young'un could easliy come in and inspire a revival by playing without fear of consequence. for me, robbo has been at least shaky for a while now, and i don't think he could claim to be at peak fitness. we have a young lad that seems to be performing in training, so it could easily be the right decision to make the change. as stated, he didn't personally to a huge amount wrong on saturday. and it doesn't make sense to say that berg should focus on the defence first. he should be able to consider the makeup of all areas of the squad. the problem with the defence is that we don't have a huge amount of decent cover and the existing unit is weak. on top of that, we have a central midfield that is hugely problematic without much cover also. so making wholesale changes there might be nice, but is almost impossible at the moment. given that much of what we all feel is wrong with the squad is a lack of energy and commitment, maybe the manager showing he is willing to drop under-performing players is a good thing. Fully agree with your post and maybe it could inspire competition for places in general which should lead to a lot more commitment from the entire squad, but I won't hold my breath. angryandy

7:01pm Tue 18 Dec 12

walshy2866 says...

fanny_tickler. wrote:
i8dingles wrote:
6 fingered Yorkshire filth, your mums your dad, your dads your mum, your interbred you Yorkshire scum, RTID
Six-fingered Yorkshire filth. Always tickles me that one. Now wipe your chin and get back to your crayons.
Please let me apologise on behalf of Rovers fans en mass for that silly boys comments. You come on here to read mainly sensible logical talk, if you wanted to read gutter trash like that you could go on claretmad or whatever its called. In fact there's a thought why don't you go on there and concentrate on your own club rather than your more prestigious neighbors pages? Your id cracks me up, bet the only f@nny you've tickled is your mums on the way out or if you've got really lucky your sisters on your return from another exhilarating day on't tuff
[quote][p][bold]fanny_tickler.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]i8dingles[/bold] wrote: 6 fingered Yorkshire filth, your mums your dad, your dads your mum, your interbred you Yorkshire scum, RTID[/p][/quote]Six-fingered Yorkshire filth. Always tickles me that one. Now wipe your chin and get back to your crayons.[/p][/quote]Please let me apologise on behalf of Rovers fans en mass for that silly boys comments. You come on here to read mainly sensible logical talk, if you wanted to read gutter trash like that you could go on claretmad or whatever its called. In fact there's a thought why don't you go on there and concentrate on your own club rather than your more prestigious neighbors pages? Your id cracks me up, bet the only f@nny you've tickled is your mums on the way out or if you've got really lucky your sisters on your return from another exhilarating day on't tuff walshy2866

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