Orr surplus to requirements at Ewood Park

First published in Football Lancashire Telegraph: Photograph of the Author by , Blackburn Rovers reporter

BRADLEY Orr has completed a loan move to Ipswich Town after he was found surplus to requirements at Ewood Park.

The former QPR and Bristol City right back will today completed his move to Suffolk until January, with an option for a permanent deal once the transfer window reopens.

Orr only arrived at Rovers from Loftus Road at the start of the year, when Steve Kean opted to bring in the 30-year-old defender for a nominal fee.

Orr was a regular for the early part of the current campaign but, having lost his place in the starting line-up under new boss Henning Berg, he has been told he can leave Ewood Park.

Orr was keen on playing a key role in Rovers’ attempt to earn an instant Premier League return but believes his first team opportunities would be limited if he remained at Ewood Park.

He made 10 Premier League starts for Rovers in the second half of last season but was unable to prevent the club from crashing out of the top flight.

He has struggled to win over sections of Rovers supporters, after comments made by the defender in support of former boss Steve Kean last season.

The emergence of teenager Adam Henley during Berg’s tenure has seen Orr left on the bench in all three of the Norwegian’s matches in charge.

Berg insisted after he initially left him out of the trip to Palace that Orr still had a place in the club’s future, but the defender believes his opportunities would be limited.

Meanwhile Birmingham City skipper Steven Caldwell has hailed Scottish team-mate and Rovers striker Jordan Rhodes ahead of this evening’s friendly away at Luxembourg.

The former Burnley defender, who marked him in Saturday’s draw at Ewood Park, said: “He is a very difficult player to play against because he has lots of great movement and is a very willing player.

“He is always sitting on your shoulder and sniffing around for an opportunity to get across you and get either a header or a shot in on goal.

“He makes sure you have to concentrate on your game all the time and that is what we had to do against him. I am 100 per cent sure he is going to have an excellent future ahead of him. “I am so pleased he is Scottish.

“He is one of us and he gives us another option up front.

“We have got a great player like Kenny Miller coming to the end of his career, but who is still very good and we have also got (Stephen) Fletcher, Jamie Mackie and Naismith to provide competition for him over the next few years.”

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12:48pm Wed 14 Nov 12

bburnrover says...

Well Berg must know his players and it must have only took an initial review of our videoed games to realise he was pathetic.
Well Berg must know his players and it must have only took an initial review of our videoed games to realise he was pathetic. bburnrover
  • Score: 34

12:48pm Wed 14 Nov 12

Hendog says...

Excellent news. Even though he was part of the Kean collective, I would say my delight comes more from the fact we've offloaded somebody who was sh!t and it only took two weeks There was no beurocracy and no warning this would happen, just gone. With any luck this will give everyone a large Norwegian boot up the back one !!
Excellent news. Even though he was part of the Kean collective, I would say my delight comes more from the fact we've offloaded somebody who was sh!t and it only took two weeks There was no beurocracy and no warning this would happen, just gone. With any luck this will give everyone a large Norwegian boot up the back one !! Hendog
  • Score: 58

12:52pm Wed 14 Nov 12

bburnrover says...

Agreed!
Agreed! bburnrover
  • Score: 16

12:54pm Wed 14 Nov 12

ElseFred says...

"Good call" Henning.....Orr was not really good enough.
"Good call" Henning.....Orr was not really good enough. ElseFred
  • Score: 30

12:58pm Wed 14 Nov 12

Road Runner Road Runner says...

No place for shysters down at the good ship Ewood, and Orr shows his true colors - not up for the fight under a winner of numerous medals.

Cheerio, cheerio, cheerio....

So it goes.....

Arte et labore
No place for shysters down at the good ship Ewood, and Orr shows his true colors - not up for the fight under a winner of numerous medals. Cheerio, cheerio, cheerio.... So it goes..... Arte et labore Road Runner Road Runner
  • Score: 19

1:06pm Wed 14 Nov 12

Wild Rover says...

Kinda shoots down the " Berg is a yes man comments" and the even more loony " Kean is still in charge " conspiracy loonie (hi there Smellie & Ronnie bit quiet aren't you)
Anyways Orr was not good enough so HB has moved him on for the right reasons
Can we stop keep banging on about SK and the perceived connections though?
He is gone, lets move on
Kinda shoots down the " Berg is a yes man comments" and the even more loony " Kean is still in charge " conspiracy loonie (hi there Smellie & Ronnie bit quiet aren't you) Anyways Orr was not good enough so HB has moved him on for the right reasons Can we stop keep banging on about SK and the perceived connections though? He is gone, lets move on Wild Rover
  • Score: 28

1:08pm Wed 14 Nov 12

bigste says...

Berg is seeing what Kean couldn't. Not that anybody would see something in Orr.
Berg is seeing what Kean couldn't. Not that anybody would see something in Orr. bigste
  • Score: 13

1:09pm Wed 14 Nov 12

b12simon says...

An inferior player but a great shining bell.

Good riddance and goodonyer Berg.
An inferior player but a great shining bell. Good riddance and goodonyer Berg. b12simon
  • Score: 12

1:10pm Wed 14 Nov 12

dallydally says...

Good riddance I say. He was Kean's blue-eyed boy; I'll never forget that tosh when we were relegated and he stood up for the Bald Clown
Good riddance I say. He was Kean's blue-eyed boy; I'll never forget that tosh when we were relegated and he stood up for the Bald Clown dallydally
  • Score: 29

1:11pm Wed 14 Nov 12

greenscreener says...

Ipswich have the option to send him back in January, here's hoping they loose the receipt ! :-)
Ipswich have the option to send him back in January, here's hoping they loose the receipt ! :-) greenscreener
  • Score: 23

1:14pm Wed 14 Nov 12

A Rover 45 years and over says...

Something must have happened and it's ok providing we have cover. It's not fair to keep playing Jason in that position as he should be allowed to play midfield, not right back or on the wing. Young Hanley seems a good talent in that position and looks good for the future.
Something must have happened and it's ok providing we have cover. It's not fair to keep playing Jason in that position as he should be allowed to play midfield, not right back or on the wing. Young Hanley seems a good talent in that position and looks good for the future. A Rover 45 years and over
  • Score: 10

1:16pm Wed 14 Nov 12

stick to football says...

Like many at Ewood lacked consistency

Was never going to win the fans over having nailed his flag to the mast for Kean

Good to see Berg starting to shape his team and I guess more will follow Orr out of Ewood
Like many at Ewood lacked consistency Was never going to win the fans over having nailed his flag to the mast for Kean Good to see Berg starting to shape his team and I guess more will follow Orr out of Ewood stick to football
  • Score: 19

1:16pm Wed 14 Nov 12

earwego says...

Christmas has come early,one down few more to go..Keans cronies watch out The Berg-amaster has struck,which one is next?
Christmas has come early,one down few more to go..Keans cronies watch out The Berg-amaster has struck,which one is next? earwego
  • Score: 19

1:17pm Wed 14 Nov 12

Harwoodstblue says...

" Surplus to requirements " Well that's a nice way of putting it.

Ousted by an inexperienced teenager says it all really. Another of Kean's mad signings.....Keep it up Henning.
" Surplus to requirements " Well that's a nice way of putting it. Ousted by an inexperienced teenager says it all really. Another of Kean's mad signings.....Keep it up Henning. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 23

1:24pm Wed 14 Nov 12

Iiii1111 says...

The final straw was when orr turned up wearing 'i luv steve Kean' t-shirt for trianiing
The final straw was when orr turned up wearing 'i luv steve Kean' t-shirt for trianiing Iiii1111
  • Score: 9

1:25pm Wed 14 Nov 12

Final word says...

Orr realised he couldn't brown nose his way into Berg's pocket.....
Orr realised he couldn't brown nose his way into Berg's pocket..... Final word
  • Score: 9

1:27pm Wed 14 Nov 12

Iiii1111 says...

Iiii1111 wrote:
The final straw was when orr turned up wearing 'i luv steve Kean' t-shirt for trianiing
just waiting for certain someone turning up with a ' steve kean my drinking buddie' t shirt;-)
[quote][p][bold]Iiii1111[/bold] wrote: The final straw was when orr turned up wearing 'i luv steve Kean' t-shirt for trianiing[/p][/quote]just waiting for certain someone turning up with a ' steve kean my drinking buddie' t shirt;-) Iiii1111
  • Score: 11

2:04pm Wed 14 Nov 12

ChrisDeBerg says...

I'm expecting a good ear-full for this one, but still...

Have we got a loan replacement? We are short on defenders and we have let another one go out on loan... Don't get me wrong, up until the last couple of games I saw him as a total liability on the pitch and would have been glad for him to go and put a forward in defence... He has stepped his game up and I thought he was a contender for man of the match at one game.

I applaud Berg for what he is doing at rovers, we really look like a team that is going to be returning to the rovers we have always been. If he has a replacement then I suppose that comment is pointless, if he doesn't then I'm a tad bit worried... Lets see anyway eh?!

RTID
I'm expecting a good ear-full for this one, but still... Have we got a loan replacement? We are short on defenders and we have let another one go out on loan... Don't get me wrong, up until the last couple of games I saw him as a total liability on the pitch and would have been glad for him to go and put a forward in defence... He has stepped his game up and I thought he was a contender for man of the match at one game. I applaud Berg for what he is doing at rovers, we really look like a team that is going to be returning to the rovers we have always been. If he has a replacement then I suppose that comment is pointless, if he doesn't then I'm a tad bit worried... Lets see anyway eh?! RTID ChrisDeBerg
  • Score: 2

2:07pm Wed 14 Nov 12

madrover says...

good riddance orr another crap player signed by you know who . Can you take smellthecofee with you probably thinks you were better than messi
good riddance orr another crap player signed by you know who . Can you take smellthecofee with you probably thinks you were better than messi madrover
  • Score: 7

2:19pm Wed 14 Nov 12

blueblooded says...

ChrisDeBerg wrote:
I'm expecting a good ear-full for this one, but still...

Have we got a loan replacement? We are short on defenders and we have let another one go out on loan... Don't get me wrong, up until the last couple of games I saw him as a total liability on the pitch and would have been glad for him to go and put a forward in defence... He has stepped his game up and I thought he was a contender for man of the match at one game.

I applaud Berg for what he is doing at rovers, we really look like a team that is going to be returning to the rovers we have always been. If he has a replacement then I suppose that comment is pointless, if he doesn't then I'm a tad bit worried... Lets see anyway eh?!

RTID
Well one hopes Berg will be able to chew Shebbmeisters ears and get a decent one soon. It'll be interesting how the new manager vs Global prat - sorry advisor - relationship pans out.
[quote][p][bold]ChrisDeBerg[/bold] wrote: I'm expecting a good ear-full for this one, but still... Have we got a loan replacement? We are short on defenders and we have let another one go out on loan... Don't get me wrong, up until the last couple of games I saw him as a total liability on the pitch and would have been glad for him to go and put a forward in defence... He has stepped his game up and I thought he was a contender for man of the match at one game. I applaud Berg for what he is doing at rovers, we really look like a team that is going to be returning to the rovers we have always been. If he has a replacement then I suppose that comment is pointless, if he doesn't then I'm a tad bit worried... Lets see anyway eh?! RTID[/p][/quote]Well one hopes Berg will be able to chew Shebbmeisters ears and get a decent one soon. It'll be interesting how the new manager vs Global prat - sorry advisor - relationship pans out. blueblooded
  • Score: 4

2:20pm Wed 14 Nov 12

Harwoodstblue says...

ChrisDeBerg wrote:
I'm expecting a good ear-full for this one, but still...

Have we got a loan replacement? We are short on defenders and we have let another one go out on loan... Don't get me wrong, up until the last couple of games I saw him as a total liability on the pitch and would have been glad for him to go and put a forward in defence... He has stepped his game up and I thought he was a contender for man of the match at one game.

I applaud Berg for what he is doing at rovers, we really look like a team that is going to be returning to the rovers we have always been. If he has a replacement then I suppose that comment is pointless, if he doesn't then I'm a tad bit worried... Lets see anyway eh?!

RTID
Berg is probably having a clear out now to get some off the wage bill in preparation for the January transfer window.
He'll probably bring in one or two defenders then, If only on loan, I think.
[quote][p][bold]ChrisDeBerg[/bold] wrote: I'm expecting a good ear-full for this one, but still... Have we got a loan replacement? We are short on defenders and we have let another one go out on loan... Don't get me wrong, up until the last couple of games I saw him as a total liability on the pitch and would have been glad for him to go and put a forward in defence... He has stepped his game up and I thought he was a contender for man of the match at one game. I applaud Berg for what he is doing at rovers, we really look like a team that is going to be returning to the rovers we have always been. If he has a replacement then I suppose that comment is pointless, if he doesn't then I'm a tad bit worried... Lets see anyway eh?! RTID[/p][/quote]Berg is probably having a clear out now to get some off the wage bill in preparation for the January transfer window. He'll probably bring in one or two defenders then, If only on loan, I think. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 11

2:23pm Wed 14 Nov 12

zenoufthebirdcatcher says...

Very poor player offloaded; no pace, no vision. He was easy meat for opposition wingers and because he was so weak other defenders had to cover him leaving the defence unbalanced. If that was not sufficient, his ingratiating statements on relegation had me, and I suspect, many others, spitting feathers.
Very poor player offloaded; no pace, no vision. He was easy meat for opposition wingers and because he was so weak other defenders had to cover him leaving the defence unbalanced. If that was not sufficient, his ingratiating statements on relegation had me, and I suspect, many others, spitting feathers. zenoufthebirdcatcher
  • Score: 12

2:29pm Wed 14 Nov 12

inflightmagazine says...

this is a good move and shows henning is really trying to stamp his mark on the team, got a sneaky suspicion he might even be toying with the idea of a 3-5-2 formation, would make sense when you have no defenders and an army of midfielders.
this is a good move and shows henning is really trying to stamp his mark on the team, got a sneaky suspicion he might even be toying with the idea of a 3-5-2 formation, would make sense when you have no defenders and an army of midfielders. inflightmagazine
  • Score: 7

2:35pm Wed 14 Nov 12

greenscreener says...

ChrisDeBerg wrote:
I'm expecting a good ear-full for this one, but still...

Have we got a loan replacement? We are short on defenders and we have let another one go out on loan... Don't get me wrong, up until the last couple of games I saw him as a total liability on the pitch and would have been glad for him to go and put a forward in defence... He has stepped his game up and I thought he was a contender for man of the match at one game.

I applaud Berg for what he is doing at rovers, we really look like a team that is going to be returning to the rovers we have always been. If he has a replacement then I suppose that comment is pointless, if he doesn't then I'm a tad bit worried... Lets see anyway eh?!

RTID
So Adam Henley has the shirt and is doing a good job, Jason Lowe filled in there last season and did o.k. at premiership level, to let your 3rd choice full back go isn't a cause for major concern.
[quote][p][bold]ChrisDeBerg[/bold] wrote: I'm expecting a good ear-full for this one, but still... Have we got a loan replacement? We are short on defenders and we have let another one go out on loan... Don't get me wrong, up until the last couple of games I saw him as a total liability on the pitch and would have been glad for him to go and put a forward in defence... He has stepped his game up and I thought he was a contender for man of the match at one game. I applaud Berg for what he is doing at rovers, we really look like a team that is going to be returning to the rovers we have always been. If he has a replacement then I suppose that comment is pointless, if he doesn't then I'm a tad bit worried... Lets see anyway eh?! RTID[/p][/quote]So Adam Henley has the shirt and is doing a good job, Jason Lowe filled in there last season and did o.k. at premiership level, to let your 3rd choice full back go isn't a cause for major concern. greenscreener
  • Score: 14

2:35pm Wed 14 Nov 12

ChrisDeBerg says...

blueblooded wrote:
ChrisDeBerg wrote:
I'm expecting a good ear-full for this one, but still...

Have we got a loan replacement? We are short on defenders and we have let another one go out on loan... Don't get me wrong, up until the last couple of games I saw him as a total liability on the pitch and would have been glad for him to go and put a forward in defence... He has stepped his game up and I thought he was a contender for man of the match at one game.

I applaud Berg for what he is doing at rovers, we really look like a team that is going to be returning to the rovers we have always been. If he has a replacement then I suppose that comment is pointless, if he doesn't then I'm a tad bit worried... Lets see anyway eh?!

RTID
Well one hopes Berg will be able to chew Shebbmeisters ears and get a decent one soon. It'll be interesting how the new manager vs Global prat - sorry advisor - relationship pans out.
I'm more than sure that Berg will bring in another Samba type quality big a$$ CB and some more support in defence, I'm sure venkys will give him a budget to play with too, probably told him to get rid of the deadwood loners off the wagebill that kean brought in first though maybe? If this is the case then I recon we could be getting a few more loan-out stories before we see someone come in... I just think we are really thin at the back now so we need someone in soon!
[quote][p][bold]blueblooded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChrisDeBerg[/bold] wrote: I'm expecting a good ear-full for this one, but still... Have we got a loan replacement? We are short on defenders and we have let another one go out on loan... Don't get me wrong, up until the last couple of games I saw him as a total liability on the pitch and would have been glad for him to go and put a forward in defence... He has stepped his game up and I thought he was a contender for man of the match at one game. I applaud Berg for what he is doing at rovers, we really look like a team that is going to be returning to the rovers we have always been. If he has a replacement then I suppose that comment is pointless, if he doesn't then I'm a tad bit worried... Lets see anyway eh?! RTID[/p][/quote]Well one hopes Berg will be able to chew Shebbmeisters ears and get a decent one soon. It'll be interesting how the new manager vs Global prat - sorry advisor - relationship pans out.[/p][/quote]I'm more than sure that Berg will bring in another Samba type quality big a$$ CB and some more support in defence, I'm sure venkys will give him a budget to play with too, probably told him to get rid of the deadwood loners off the wagebill that kean brought in first though maybe? If this is the case then I recon we could be getting a few more loan-out stories before we see someone come in... I just think we are really thin at the back now so we need someone in soon! ChrisDeBerg
  • Score: 4

2:41pm Wed 14 Nov 12

blueblooded says...

ChrisDeBerg wrote:
blueblooded wrote:
ChrisDeBerg wrote:
I'm expecting a good ear-full for this one, but still...

Have we got a loan replacement? We are short on defenders and we have let another one go out on loan... Don't get me wrong, up until the last couple of games I saw him as a total liability on the pitch and would have been glad for him to go and put a forward in defence... He has stepped his game up and I thought he was a contender for man of the match at one game.

I applaud Berg for what he is doing at rovers, we really look like a team that is going to be returning to the rovers we have always been. If he has a replacement then I suppose that comment is pointless, if he doesn't then I'm a tad bit worried... Lets see anyway eh?!

RTID
Well one hopes Berg will be able to chew Shebbmeisters ears and get a decent one soon. It'll be interesting how the new manager vs Global prat - sorry advisor - relationship pans out.
I'm more than sure that Berg will bring in another Samba type quality big a$$ CB and some more support in defence, I'm sure venkys will give him a budget to play with too, probably told him to get rid of the deadwood loners off the wagebill that kean brought in first though maybe? If this is the case then I recon we could be getting a few more loan-out stories before we see someone come in... I just think we are really thin at the back now so we need someone in soon!
Its BRUNO TIME... (Drum Roll...)
[quote][p][bold]ChrisDeBerg[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blueblooded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChrisDeBerg[/bold] wrote: I'm expecting a good ear-full for this one, but still... Have we got a loan replacement? We are short on defenders and we have let another one go out on loan... Don't get me wrong, up until the last couple of games I saw him as a total liability on the pitch and would have been glad for him to go and put a forward in defence... He has stepped his game up and I thought he was a contender for man of the match at one game. I applaud Berg for what he is doing at rovers, we really look like a team that is going to be returning to the rovers we have always been. If he has a replacement then I suppose that comment is pointless, if he doesn't then I'm a tad bit worried... Lets see anyway eh?! RTID[/p][/quote]Well one hopes Berg will be able to chew Shebbmeisters ears and get a decent one soon. It'll be interesting how the new manager vs Global prat - sorry advisor - relationship pans out.[/p][/quote]I'm more than sure that Berg will bring in another Samba type quality big a$$ CB and some more support in defence, I'm sure venkys will give him a budget to play with too, probably told him to get rid of the deadwood loners off the wagebill that kean brought in first though maybe? If this is the case then I recon we could be getting a few more loan-out stories before we see someone come in... I just think we are really thin at the back now so we need someone in soon![/p][/quote]Its BRUNO TIME... (Drum Roll...) blueblooded
  • Score: 6

2:50pm Wed 14 Nov 12

Dan11 says...

Orr was horrible, absolutely horrible. It shows that Berg is a decent judge, unlike DONUT who picked players based on whether he liked them personally or whether he got a bung out of it.
Orr was horrible, absolutely horrible. It shows that Berg is a decent judge, unlike DONUT who picked players based on whether he liked them personally or whether he got a bung out of it. Dan11
  • Score: 6

2:50pm Wed 14 Nov 12

Nuttall Street says...

Things must be desperate at Ipswich!
I am glad to see the back of this creep!
The persons most surplus to requirements at Ewood Park are Colin Hendry and then the Global Adviser (whatever that means!), but this is a good start.
Things must be dire at Ipswich though.
Things must be desperate at Ipswich! I am glad to see the back of this creep! The persons most surplus to requirements at Ewood Park are Colin Hendry and then the Global Adviser (whatever that means!), but this is a good start. Things must be dire at Ipswich though. Nuttall Street
  • Score: 8

2:52pm Wed 14 Nov 12

greenscreener says...

blueblooded wrote:
ChrisDeBerg wrote:
blueblooded wrote:
ChrisDeBerg wrote:
I'm expecting a good ear-full for this one, but still...

Have we got a loan replacement? We are short on defenders and we have let another one go out on loan... Don't get me wrong, up until the last couple of games I saw him as a total liability on the pitch and would have been glad for him to go and put a forward in defence... He has stepped his game up and I thought he was a contender for man of the match at one game.

I applaud Berg for what he is doing at rovers, we really look like a team that is going to be returning to the rovers we have always been. If he has a replacement then I suppose that comment is pointless, if he doesn't then I'm a tad bit worried... Lets see anyway eh?!

RTID
Well one hopes Berg will be able to chew Shebbmeisters ears and get a decent one soon. It'll be interesting how the new manager vs Global prat - sorry advisor - relationship pans out.
I'm more than sure that Berg will bring in another Samba type quality big a$$ CB and some more support in defence, I'm sure venkys will give him a budget to play with too, probably told him to get rid of the deadwood loners off the wagebill that kean brought in first though maybe? If this is the case then I recon we could be getting a few more loan-out stories before we see someone come in... I just think we are really thin at the back now so we need someone in soon!
Its BRUNO TIME... (Drum Roll...)
Ah yes, the next Denis Irwin, forgot about him.

Bradley obvoiusly realised that when Berg has fully evaluated all our players he could be 4th choice right back. Unless there are some more portuguese ones knocking about down at Brockhall ?
[quote][p][bold]blueblooded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChrisDeBerg[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blueblooded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChrisDeBerg[/bold] wrote: I'm expecting a good ear-full for this one, but still... Have we got a loan replacement? We are short on defenders and we have let another one go out on loan... Don't get me wrong, up until the last couple of games I saw him as a total liability on the pitch and would have been glad for him to go and put a forward in defence... He has stepped his game up and I thought he was a contender for man of the match at one game. I applaud Berg for what he is doing at rovers, we really look like a team that is going to be returning to the rovers we have always been. If he has a replacement then I suppose that comment is pointless, if he doesn't then I'm a tad bit worried... Lets see anyway eh?! RTID[/p][/quote]Well one hopes Berg will be able to chew Shebbmeisters ears and get a decent one soon. It'll be interesting how the new manager vs Global prat - sorry advisor - relationship pans out.[/p][/quote]I'm more than sure that Berg will bring in another Samba type quality big a$$ CB and some more support in defence, I'm sure venkys will give him a budget to play with too, probably told him to get rid of the deadwood loners off the wagebill that kean brought in first though maybe? If this is the case then I recon we could be getting a few more loan-out stories before we see someone come in... I just think we are really thin at the back now so we need someone in soon![/p][/quote]Its BRUNO TIME... (Drum Roll...)[/p][/quote]Ah yes, the next Denis Irwin, forgot about him. Bradley obvoiusly realised that when Berg has fully evaluated all our players he could be 4th choice right back. Unless there are some more portuguese ones knocking about down at Brockhall ? greenscreener
  • Score: 8

3:07pm Wed 14 Nov 12

foxy lass says...

Good decision by Berg. He was a poor signing and a very average player. We haven't had a quality RB in a long while. Kean could have signed Scott Sutter on a free who is a regular playing in Europa. Instead he chose this QPR castoff. Move back in for Sutter who still wants to play in England!!!
Good decision by Berg. He was a poor signing and a very average player. We haven't had a quality RB in a long while. Kean could have signed Scott Sutter on a free who is a regular playing in Europa. Instead he chose this QPR castoff. Move back in for Sutter who still wants to play in England!!! foxy lass
  • Score: 6

3:07pm Wed 14 Nov 12

Billypieman says...

Does this mean we are going to recall Myles Anderson? His impressive presence on the Aldershot bench has guided them to the lofty perch of 24th in League 2. Surely it's time got the "New Chris Smalling" to make a return.
Does this mean we are going to recall Myles Anderson? His impressive presence on the Aldershot bench has guided them to the lofty perch of 24th in League 2. Surely it's time got the "New Chris Smalling" to make a return. Billypieman
  • Score: 8

3:11pm Wed 14 Nov 12

MxMave says...

We are going to end up with a back 4 including G. Hanley, R. Hanley, A. Henley. Good times.
We are going to end up with a back 4 including G. Hanley, R. Hanley, A. Henley. Good times. MxMave
  • Score: 7

3:13pm Wed 14 Nov 12

Harwoodstblue says...

foxy lass wrote:
Good decision by Berg. He was a poor signing and a very average player. We haven't had a quality RB in a long while. Kean could have signed Scott Sutter on a free who is a regular playing in Europa. Instead he chose this QPR castoff. Move back in for Sutter who still wants to play in England!!!
..."haven't had a quality RB in a long while."

We haven't had a decent right back since, in their wisdom, they "let go " Emmerton.
[quote][p][bold]foxy lass[/bold] wrote: Good decision by Berg. He was a poor signing and a very average player. We haven't had a quality RB in a long while. Kean could have signed Scott Sutter on a free who is a regular playing in Europa. Instead he chose this QPR castoff. Move back in for Sutter who still wants to play in England!!![/p][/quote]..."haven't had a quality RB in a long while." We haven't had a decent right back since, in their wisdom, they "let go " Emmerton. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 7

3:20pm Wed 14 Nov 12

Harwoodstblue says...

Shipped out Orr, given Murphy a kick up the backside ( what a transformation there. ) Just need Dann etc. sorting out and Best back in the new year and things could be looking up.
Keep up the good work Henning.
Shipped out Orr, given Murphy a kick up the backside ( what a transformation there. ) Just need Dann etc. sorting out and Best back in the new year and things could be looking up. Keep up the good work Henning. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 15

3:28pm Wed 14 Nov 12

Is Eckersley playing? says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
foxy lass wrote:
Good decision by Berg. He was a poor signing and a very average player. We haven't had a quality RB in a long while. Kean could have signed Scott Sutter on a free who is a regular playing in Europa. Instead he chose this QPR castoff. Move back in for Sutter who still wants to play in England!!!
..."haven't had a quality RB in a long while."

We haven't had a decent right back since, in their wisdom, they "let go " Emmerton.
Aye, but what about Bill Eckersley. Now he Was a right back!
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]foxy lass[/bold] wrote: Good decision by Berg. He was a poor signing and a very average player. We haven't had a quality RB in a long while. Kean could have signed Scott Sutter on a free who is a regular playing in Europa. Instead he chose this QPR castoff. Move back in for Sutter who still wants to play in England!!![/p][/quote]..."haven't had a quality RB in a long while." We haven't had a decent right back since, in their wisdom, they "let go " Emmerton.[/p][/quote]Aye, but what about Bill Eckersley. Now he Was a right back! Is Eckersley playing?
  • Score: 3

3:42pm Wed 14 Nov 12

greenscreener says...

Is Eckersley playing? wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
foxy lass wrote:
Good decision by Berg. He was a poor signing and a very average player. We haven't had a quality RB in a long while. Kean could have signed Scott Sutter on a free who is a regular playing in Europa. Instead he chose this QPR castoff. Move back in for Sutter who still wants to play in England!!!
..."haven't had a quality RB in a long while."

We haven't had a decent right back since, in their wisdom, they "let go " Emmerton.
Aye, but what about Bill Eckersley. Now he Was a right back!
Just how long have you been waiting for an opportunity to get Bill a mention ?
[quote][p][bold]Is Eckersley playing?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]foxy lass[/bold] wrote: Good decision by Berg. He was a poor signing and a very average player. We haven't had a quality RB in a long while. Kean could have signed Scott Sutter on a free who is a regular playing in Europa. Instead he chose this QPR castoff. Move back in for Sutter who still wants to play in England!!![/p][/quote]..."haven't had a quality RB in a long while." We haven't had a decent right back since, in their wisdom, they "let go " Emmerton.[/p][/quote]Aye, but what about Bill Eckersley. Now he Was a right back![/p][/quote]Just how long have you been waiting for an opportunity to get Bill a mention ? greenscreener
  • Score: 7

3:45pm Wed 14 Nov 12

French Rover says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
foxy lass wrote:
Good decision by Berg. He was a poor signing and a very average player. We haven't had a quality RB in a long while. Kean could have signed Scott Sutter on a free who is a regular playing in Europa. Instead he chose this QPR castoff. Move back in for Sutter who still wants to play in England!!!
..."haven't had a quality RB in a long while."

We haven't had a decent right back since, in their wisdom, they "let go " Emmerton.
Salgado was not bad on his day, just his legs let him down - his spirit was fine. But Lucas Neil was our last decent RB.....Emo was just OK at RB but was always much more comfortable (and much better) going forward than defending.
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]foxy lass[/bold] wrote: Good decision by Berg. He was a poor signing and a very average player. We haven't had a quality RB in a long while. Kean could have signed Scott Sutter on a free who is a regular playing in Europa. Instead he chose this QPR castoff. Move back in for Sutter who still wants to play in England!!![/p][/quote]..."haven't had a quality RB in a long while." We haven't had a decent right back since, in their wisdom, they "let go " Emmerton.[/p][/quote]Salgado was not bad on his day, just his legs let him down - his spirit was fine. But Lucas Neil was our last decent RB.....Emo was just OK at RB but was always much more comfortable (and much better) going forward than defending. French Rover
  • Score: 8

3:58pm Wed 14 Nov 12

Captain Dreckley says...

Orr is one of a group of deadwood hangers on at Ewood who are all surplus to requirements. Let us hope Henning continues to wield the axe over the squad and has a long hard look at his coaching staff. Hendry and Kean saw Orr as a premier league full back when it is unclear if he will be of the standard of a championship club fighting relegation. Interesting that the papers report Van Nistleroy is looking for a coaching post. Carry on Henning and order a taxi for Hendry
Orr is one of a group of deadwood hangers on at Ewood who are all surplus to requirements. Let us hope Henning continues to wield the axe over the squad and has a long hard look at his coaching staff. Hendry and Kean saw Orr as a premier league full back when it is unclear if he will be of the standard of a championship club fighting relegation. Interesting that the papers report Van Nistleroy is looking for a coaching post. Carry on Henning and order a taxi for Hendry Captain Dreckley
  • Score: 13

4:00pm Wed 14 Nov 12

Brunzig says...

Looks like the clear out has begun, happy days! Now lets just get shut of a few other no goods and let Berg bring in some quality!
Looks like the clear out has begun, happy days! Now lets just get shut of a few other no goods and let Berg bring in some quality! Brunzig
  • Score: 13

4:11pm Wed 14 Nov 12

spotonblue says...

Lets hope he can get rid of Dann just as easily
Lets hope he can get rid of Dann just as easily spotonblue
  • Score: 4

4:11pm Wed 14 Nov 12

Just Dennis says...

Watched Bill Eckersley throughout his Rovers and England career.
Never once saw him play right back although he once played in goal when Harry Leyland was K.O'd during the pre match kick-in.
Seeing him don Harry's jersey was hillarious as it was many sizes too big and the sleeves came down over Bill's hands.
Watched Bill Eckersley throughout his Rovers and England career. Never once saw him play right back although he once played in goal when Harry Leyland was K.O'd during the pre match kick-in. Seeing him don Harry's jersey was hillarious as it was many sizes too big and the sleeves came down over Bill's hands. Just Dennis
  • Score: 8

4:34pm Wed 14 Nov 12

rovertillidie says...

Good news as far as I am concerned we need to get more out of our fullbacks to supplement the attacking play. The best teams have fullbacks that can undertake both defending and attacking roles...Orr could in my opinion do neither to any degree of success.

Ipswich is about as far away from Ewood he could go and lets hope they decide to keep him cos we don't want him back.

Good call Henning, although that wasn't too diffcult a decision!
Good news as far as I am concerned we need to get more out of our fullbacks to supplement the attacking play. The best teams have fullbacks that can undertake both defending and attacking roles...Orr could in my opinion do neither to any degree of success. Ipswich is about as far away from Ewood he could go and lets hope they decide to keep him cos we don't want him back. Good call Henning, although that wasn't too diffcult a decision! rovertillidie
  • Score: 5

4:38pm Wed 14 Nov 12

greenscreener says...

Just Dennis wrote:
Watched Bill Eckersley throughout his Rovers and England career.
Never once saw him play right back although he once played in goal when Harry Leyland was K.O'd during the pre match kick-in.
Seeing him don Harry's jersey was hillarious as it was many sizes too big and the sleeves came down over Bill's hands.
Dennis, I take my hat off to you with respect sir, Eckersley retired about 50 years ago and played about 400 times for Rovers, so you must be the same generation as Jack Walker.

Hope you are still going down to Ewood Park, most of your mates are probably in the Riverside !
[quote][p][bold]Just Dennis[/bold] wrote: Watched Bill Eckersley throughout his Rovers and England career. Never once saw him play right back although he once played in goal when Harry Leyland was K.O'd during the pre match kick-in. Seeing him don Harry's jersey was hillarious as it was many sizes too big and the sleeves came down over Bill's hands.[/p][/quote]Dennis, I take my hat off to you with respect sir, Eckersley retired about 50 years ago and played about 400 times for Rovers, so you must be the same generation as Jack Walker. Hope you are still going down to Ewood Park, most of your mates are probably in the Riverside ! greenscreener
  • Score: 7

4:38pm Wed 14 Nov 12

silverstan says...

Orr gone, Dann & Givet next, keep up the good work Henning !!
Orr gone, Dann & Givet next, keep up the good work Henning !! silverstan
  • Score: -11

4:39pm Wed 14 Nov 12

silverstan says...

Orr gone, Dann & Givet next, keep up the good work Henning !!
Orr gone, Dann & Givet next, keep up the good work Henning !! silverstan
  • Score: -9

4:47pm Wed 14 Nov 12

Lancs - pensioner says...

Just Dennis wrote:
Watched Bill Eckersley throughout his Rovers and England career.
Never once saw him play right back although he once played in goal when Harry Leyland was K.O'd during the pre match kick-in.
Seeing him don Harry's jersey was hillarious as it was many sizes too big and the sleeves came down over Bill's hands.
What about Chris Price, remember him, not a bad attacking full back?
[quote][p][bold]Just Dennis[/bold] wrote: Watched Bill Eckersley throughout his Rovers and England career. Never once saw him play right back although he once played in goal when Harry Leyland was K.O'd during the pre match kick-in. Seeing him don Harry's jersey was hillarious as it was many sizes too big and the sleeves came down over Bill's hands.[/p][/quote]What about Chris Price, remember him, not a bad attacking full back? Lancs - pensioner
  • Score: 2

4:56pm Wed 14 Nov 12

Harwoodstblue says...

Lancs - pensioner wrote:
Just Dennis wrote:
Watched Bill Eckersley throughout his Rovers and England career.
Never once saw him play right back although he once played in goal when Harry Leyland was K.O'd during the pre match kick-in.
Seeing him don Harry's jersey was hillarious as it was many sizes too big and the sleeves came down over Bill's hands.
What about Chris Price, remember him, not a bad attacking full back?
Yes. Chris Price was a good one. And what about little Johnny Price the winger , Great to watch him skin the full backs.
[quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Just Dennis[/bold] wrote: Watched Bill Eckersley throughout his Rovers and England career. Never once saw him play right back although he once played in goal when Harry Leyland was K.O'd during the pre match kick-in. Seeing him don Harry's jersey was hillarious as it was many sizes too big and the sleeves came down over Bill's hands.[/p][/quote]What about Chris Price, remember him, not a bad attacking full back?[/p][/quote]Yes. Chris Price was a good one. And what about little Johnny Price the winger , Great to watch him skin the full backs. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 1

4:59pm Wed 14 Nov 12

merlinrabbit says...

He was a poor signing by a poor judge of talent. I think we should let his lapse of character on relegation night pass though. I suspect strongly that players were told somebody had to talk to Sky and none of the other would do it. Orr, being relatively new, volunteered and in his naievity felt appropriate to defend his manager. Dont forget how cocked up the whole situation must have been for the players too. They literally had nobdy except Kean. Previously players talked to JW. We desperately need a couple of good defenders now
He was a poor signing by a poor judge of talent. I think we should let his lapse of character on relegation night pass though. I suspect strongly that players were told somebody had to talk to Sky and none of the other would do it. Orr, being relatively new, volunteered and in his naievity felt appropriate to defend his manager. Dont forget how cocked up the whole situation must have been for the players too. They literally had nobdy except Kean. Previously players talked to JW. We desperately need a couple of good defenders now merlinrabbit
  • Score: 6

5:09pm Wed 14 Nov 12

pepperpot2296 says...

This says to the players swanning around,BUCK UP OR YOU ARE OUT,great news.
This says to the players swanning around,BUCK UP OR YOU ARE OUT,great news. pepperpot2296
  • Score: 7

5:11pm Wed 14 Nov 12

greenscreener says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
Lancs - pensioner wrote:
Just Dennis wrote:
Watched Bill Eckersley throughout his Rovers and England career.
Never once saw him play right back although he once played in goal when Harry Leyland was K.O'd during the pre match kick-in.
Seeing him don Harry's jersey was hillarious as it was many sizes too big and the sleeves came down over Bill's hands.
What about Chris Price, remember him, not a bad attacking full back?
Yes. Chris Price was a good one. And what about little Johnny Price the winger , Great to watch him skin the full backs.
And just to add a curious twist wasn't Chris Price the right back in the promotion winning side, who was replaced by, Henning Berg ?!

Didn't Johnny Price play on the opposite wing to Tony Field in the good old day of 2-3-5 ?
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Just Dennis[/bold] wrote: Watched Bill Eckersley throughout his Rovers and England career. Never once saw him play right back although he once played in goal when Harry Leyland was K.O'd during the pre match kick-in. Seeing him don Harry's jersey was hillarious as it was many sizes too big and the sleeves came down over Bill's hands.[/p][/quote]What about Chris Price, remember him, not a bad attacking full back?[/p][/quote]Yes. Chris Price was a good one. And what about little Johnny Price the winger , Great to watch him skin the full backs.[/p][/quote]And just to add a curious twist wasn't Chris Price the right back in the promotion winning side, who was replaced by, Henning Berg ?! Didn't Johnny Price play on the opposite wing to Tony Field in the good old day of 2-3-5 ? greenscreener
  • Score: 1

5:12pm Wed 14 Nov 12

Just Dennis says...

greenscreener wrote:
Just Dennis wrote: Watched Bill Eckersley throughout his Rovers and England career. Never once saw him play right back although he once played in goal when Harry Leyland was K.O'd during the pre match kick-in. Seeing him don Harry's jersey was hillarious as it was many sizes too big and the sleeves came down over Bill's hands.
Dennis, I take my hat off to you with respect sir, Eckersley retired about 50 years ago and played about 400 times for Rovers, so you must be the same generation as Jack Walker. Hope you are still going down to Ewood Park, most of your mates are probably in the Riverside !
Cheers Greenscreenner
Stood on the Riverside for decades with my mates several of whom have now joined Uncle Jack looking down from that Grandstand in the sky watching the sad events of the last two years.
Abandoned my season ticket seat in the JW Stand at the end of last season as a protest against the Venkys/Kean regime taking the club away from the supporters.
This has left a gap in my life as a lifelong Rovers supporter and I am fervently hoping for Venkys somehow to get the club back running along the right track and for Henning,who I always admired as a player, to prove successful.
Hope I will be returning soon to spend a few more happy years!
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Just Dennis[/bold] wrote: Watched Bill Eckersley throughout his Rovers and England career. Never once saw him play right back although he once played in goal when Harry Leyland was K.O'd during the pre match kick-in. Seeing him don Harry's jersey was hillarious as it was many sizes too big and the sleeves came down over Bill's hands.[/p][/quote]Dennis, I take my hat off to you with respect sir, Eckersley retired about 50 years ago and played about 400 times for Rovers, so you must be the same generation as Jack Walker. Hope you are still going down to Ewood Park, most of your mates are probably in the Riverside ![/p][/quote]Cheers Greenscreenner Stood on the Riverside for decades with my mates several of whom have now joined Uncle Jack looking down from that Grandstand in the sky watching the sad events of the last two years. Abandoned my season ticket seat in the JW Stand at the end of last season as a protest against the Venkys/Kean regime taking the club away from the supporters. This has left a gap in my life as a lifelong Rovers supporter and I am fervently hoping for Venkys somehow to get the club back running along the right track and for Henning,who I always admired as a player, to prove successful. Hope I will be returning soon to spend a few more happy years! Just Dennis
  • Score: 18

5:20pm Wed 14 Nov 12

Sportivo says...

Well done Henning. Gets rid of a below par player (I'm being kind), instantly gets the fans onside, plus if Ipswich sign him in January, it frees up a wage bill for a new player. Good work.

I find it ironic that it comes after Orr played - in my opinion - his best game for us against Watford. Not that I want him back :)

@silverstan. We badly need more centre-backs not less. Keep Dann and Givet for now. Just add better players too.
Well done Henning. Gets rid of a below par player (I'm being kind), instantly gets the fans onside, plus if Ipswich sign him in January, it frees up a wage bill for a new player. Good work. I find it ironic that it comes after Orr played - in my opinion - his best game for us against Watford. Not that I want him back :) @silverstan. We badly need more centre-backs not less. Keep Dann and Givet for now. Just add better players too. Sportivo
  • Score: 7

5:27pm Wed 14 Nov 12

Harwoodstblue says...

greenscreener wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
Lancs - pensioner wrote:
Just Dennis wrote:
Watched Bill Eckersley throughout his Rovers and England career.
Never once saw him play right back although he once played in goal when Harry Leyland was K.O'd during the pre match kick-in.
Seeing him don Harry's jersey was hillarious as it was many sizes too big and the sleeves came down over Bill's hands.
What about Chris Price, remember him, not a bad attacking full back?
Yes. Chris Price was a good one. And what about little Johnny Price the winger , Great to watch him skin the full backs.
And just to add a curious twist wasn't Chris Price the right back in the promotion winning side, who was replaced by, Henning Berg ?!

Didn't Johnny Price play on the opposite wing to Tony Field in the good old day of 2-3-5 ?
Can't remember if Berg replaced Chris Price at full back, but yes Johnny Price and Tony Field did play together but I seem to remember Tony Field playing inside left as we used to call it. He did play on the left though.
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Just Dennis[/bold] wrote: Watched Bill Eckersley throughout his Rovers and England career. Never once saw him play right back although he once played in goal when Harry Leyland was K.O'd during the pre match kick-in. Seeing him don Harry's jersey was hillarious as it was many sizes too big and the sleeves came down over Bill's hands.[/p][/quote]What about Chris Price, remember him, not a bad attacking full back?[/p][/quote]Yes. Chris Price was a good one. And what about little Johnny Price the winger , Great to watch him skin the full backs.[/p][/quote]And just to add a curious twist wasn't Chris Price the right back in the promotion winning side, who was replaced by, Henning Berg ?! Didn't Johnny Price play on the opposite wing to Tony Field in the good old day of 2-3-5 ?[/p][/quote]Can't remember if Berg replaced Chris Price at full back, but yes Johnny Price and Tony Field did play together but I seem to remember Tony Field playing inside left as we used to call it. He did play on the left though. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 1

5:45pm Wed 14 Nov 12

morleyclaret says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
Lancs - pensioner wrote:
Just Dennis wrote: Watched Bill Eckersley throughout his Rovers and England career. Never once saw him play right back although he once played in goal when Harry Leyland was K.O'd during the pre match kick-in. Seeing him don Harry's jersey was hillarious as it was many sizes too big and the sleeves came down over Bill's hands.
What about Chris Price, remember him, not a bad attacking full back?
Yes. Chris Price was a good one. And what about little Johnny Price the winger , Great to watch him skin the full backs.
As a BFC supporter it is really heartening to read the banter about players from the past! I know I'm old and often grumpy but this banter is what a 'comments' site should be about - not foul language and twisted mentalities hogging a page which is supposed to be about football!
Keep up the friendly, nostalgic banter......... whoever you support and 'love to hate' Football should always be the winner!
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Just Dennis[/bold] wrote: Watched Bill Eckersley throughout his Rovers and England career. Never once saw him play right back although he once played in goal when Harry Leyland was K.O'd during the pre match kick-in. Seeing him don Harry's jersey was hillarious as it was many sizes too big and the sleeves came down over Bill's hands.[/p][/quote]What about Chris Price, remember him, not a bad attacking full back?[/p][/quote]Yes. Chris Price was a good one. And what about little Johnny Price the winger , Great to watch him skin the full backs.[/p][/quote]As a BFC supporter it is really heartening to read the banter about players from the past! I know I'm old and often grumpy but this banter is what a 'comments' site should be about - not foul language and twisted mentalities hogging a page which is supposed to be about football! Keep up the friendly, nostalgic banter......... whoever you support and 'love to hate' Football should always be the winner! morleyclaret
  • Score: 22

5:46pm Wed 14 Nov 12

TrueBlue (Formerly GetRealUIdiot) says...

Surprised how quck Beg has took to get rid....Surpised even more Ipswich wanted him!!
Surprised how quck Beg has took to get rid....Surpised even more Ipswich wanted him!! TrueBlue (Formerly GetRealUIdiot)
  • Score: 6

6:02pm Wed 14 Nov 12

Harwoodstblue says...

morleyclaret wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
Lancs - pensioner wrote:
Just Dennis wrote: Watched Bill Eckersley throughout his Rovers and England career. Never once saw him play right back although he once played in goal when Harry Leyland was K.O'd during the pre match kick-in. Seeing him don Harry's jersey was hillarious as it was many sizes too big and the sleeves came down over Bill's hands.
What about Chris Price, remember him, not a bad attacking full back?
Yes. Chris Price was a good one. And what about little Johnny Price the winger , Great to watch him skin the full backs.
As a BFC supporter it is really heartening to read the banter about players from the past! I know I'm old and often grumpy but this banter is what a 'comments' site should be about - not foul language and twisted mentalities hogging a page which is supposed to be about football!
Keep up the friendly, nostalgic banter......... whoever you support and 'love to hate' Football should always be the winner!
Cheers morleyclaret........
Nice to here from a level headed Claret of which there are many.....I agree the foul mouthed idiots ( blue or claret )do spoil it for everyone else.
[quote][p][bold]morleyclaret[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Just Dennis[/bold] wrote: Watched Bill Eckersley throughout his Rovers and England career. Never once saw him play right back although he once played in goal when Harry Leyland was K.O'd during the pre match kick-in. Seeing him don Harry's jersey was hillarious as it was many sizes too big and the sleeves came down over Bill's hands.[/p][/quote]What about Chris Price, remember him, not a bad attacking full back?[/p][/quote]Yes. Chris Price was a good one. And what about little Johnny Price the winger , Great to watch him skin the full backs.[/p][/quote]As a BFC supporter it is really heartening to read the banter about players from the past! I know I'm old and often grumpy but this banter is what a 'comments' site should be about - not foul language and twisted mentalities hogging a page which is supposed to be about football! Keep up the friendly, nostalgic banter......... whoever you support and 'love to hate' Football should always be the winner![/p][/quote]Cheers morleyclaret........ Nice to here from a level headed Claret of which there are many.....I agree the foul mouthed idiots ( blue or claret )do spoil it for everyone else. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 12

6:05pm Wed 14 Nov 12

pepperpot2296 says...

All those shouting for Mick McCarthy? What now that he thinks Orr is for him
All those shouting for Mick McCarthy? What now that he thinks Orr is for him pepperpot2296
  • Score: 9

6:09pm Wed 14 Nov 12

Just Dennis says...

morleyclaret wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
Lancs - pensioner wrote:
Just Dennis wrote: Watched Bill Eckersley throughout his Rovers and England career. Never once saw him play right back although he once played in goal when Harry Leyland was K.O'd during the pre match kick-in. Seeing him don Harry's jersey was hillarious as it was many sizes too big and the sleeves came down over Bill's hands.
What about Chris Price, remember him, not a bad attacking full back?
Yes. Chris Price was a good one. And what about little Johnny Price the winger , Great to watch him skin the full backs.
As a BFC supporter it is really heartening to read the banter about players from the past! I know I'm old and often grumpy but this banter is what a 'comments' site should be about - not foul language and twisted mentalities hogging a page which is supposed to be about football! Keep up the friendly, nostalgic banter......... whoever you support and 'love to hate' Football should always be the winner!
Those were the days when Rovers & Burnley fans used to watch each others
games on alternate weeks - one of my mates had a season ticket for each club.
Rivalry was still very much there but none of todays absolute hatred that many portray was in evidence.
As for the twisted comments on this site that regularly appear from both sides - they are best ignored before developing into a slanging match.
I am of the opinion that events on the field may have spread hatred to the terraces when I think back to the days of Lochead and England and the duels
that took place and the sendings off.
Now we have pub warfare and wrecking of town centres all in the name of sport
[quote][p][bold]morleyclaret[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Just Dennis[/bold] wrote: Watched Bill Eckersley throughout his Rovers and England career. Never once saw him play right back although he once played in goal when Harry Leyland was K.O'd during the pre match kick-in. Seeing him don Harry's jersey was hillarious as it was many sizes too big and the sleeves came down over Bill's hands.[/p][/quote]What about Chris Price, remember him, not a bad attacking full back?[/p][/quote]Yes. Chris Price was a good one. And what about little Johnny Price the winger , Great to watch him skin the full backs.[/p][/quote]As a BFC supporter it is really heartening to read the banter about players from the past! I know I'm old and often grumpy but this banter is what a 'comments' site should be about - not foul language and twisted mentalities hogging a page which is supposed to be about football! Keep up the friendly, nostalgic banter......... whoever you support and 'love to hate' Football should always be the winner![/p][/quote]Those were the days when Rovers & Burnley fans used to watch each others games on alternate weeks - one of my mates had a season ticket for each club. Rivalry was still very much there but none of todays absolute hatred that many portray was in evidence. As for the twisted comments on this site that regularly appear from both sides - they are best ignored before developing into a slanging match. I am of the opinion that events on the field may have spread hatred to the terraces when I think back to the days of Lochead and England and the duels that took place and the sendings off. Now we have pub warfare and wrecking of town centres all in the name of sport Just Dennis
  • Score: 11

6:11pm Wed 14 Nov 12

merlinrabbit says...

Just Dennis wrote:
morleyclaret wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
Lancs - pensioner wrote:
Just Dennis wrote: Watched Bill Eckersley throughout his Rovers and England career. Never once saw him play right back although he once played in goal when Harry Leyland was K.O'd during the pre match kick-in. Seeing him don Harry's jersey was hillarious as it was many sizes too big and the sleeves came down over Bill's hands.
What about Chris Price, remember him, not a bad attacking full back?
Yes. Chris Price was a good one. And what about little Johnny Price the winger , Great to watch him skin the full backs.
As a BFC supporter it is really heartening to read the banter about players from the past! I know I'm old and often grumpy but this banter is what a 'comments' site should be about - not foul language and twisted mentalities hogging a page which is supposed to be about football! Keep up the friendly, nostalgic banter......... whoever you support and 'love to hate' Football should always be the winner!
Those were the days when Rovers & Burnley fans used to watch each others games on alternate weeks - one of my mates had a season ticket for each club. Rivalry was still very much there but none of todays absolute hatred that many portray was in evidence. As for the twisted comments on this site that regularly appear from both sides - they are best ignored before developing into a slanging match. I am of the opinion that events on the field may have spread hatred to the terraces when I think back to the days of Lochead and England and the duels that took place and the sendings off. Now we have pub warfare and wrecking of town centres all in the name of sport
Only two seasons ago, we used to walk down Park Lee Rd with an older man from Nelson who had a season ticket for both Blackburn and Burnley. What a rarity that must be.
[quote][p][bold]Just Dennis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]morleyclaret[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Just Dennis[/bold] wrote: Watched Bill Eckersley throughout his Rovers and England career. Never once saw him play right back although he once played in goal when Harry Leyland was K.O'd during the pre match kick-in. Seeing him don Harry's jersey was hillarious as it was many sizes too big and the sleeves came down over Bill's hands.[/p][/quote]What about Chris Price, remember him, not a bad attacking full back?[/p][/quote]Yes. Chris Price was a good one. And what about little Johnny Price the winger , Great to watch him skin the full backs.[/p][/quote]As a BFC supporter it is really heartening to read the banter about players from the past! I know I'm old and often grumpy but this banter is what a 'comments' site should be about - not foul language and twisted mentalities hogging a page which is supposed to be about football! Keep up the friendly, nostalgic banter......... whoever you support and 'love to hate' Football should always be the winner![/p][/quote]Those were the days when Rovers & Burnley fans used to watch each others games on alternate weeks - one of my mates had a season ticket for each club. Rivalry was still very much there but none of todays absolute hatred that many portray was in evidence. As for the twisted comments on this site that regularly appear from both sides - they are best ignored before developing into a slanging match. I am of the opinion that events on the field may have spread hatred to the terraces when I think back to the days of Lochead and England and the duels that took place and the sendings off. Now we have pub warfare and wrecking of town centres all in the name of sport[/p][/quote]Only two seasons ago, we used to walk down Park Lee Rd with an older man from Nelson who had a season ticket for both Blackburn and Burnley. What a rarity that must be. merlinrabbit
  • Score: 6

6:15pm Wed 14 Nov 12

merlinrabbit says...

silverstan wrote:
Orr gone, Dann & Givet next, keep up the good work Henning !!
I wouldnt put Givet in the same sentence as Dann. Dont forget, givet fought like a warrior the season we were saved on the last day. He is a good defender.
[quote][p][bold]silverstan[/bold] wrote: Orr gone, Dann & Givet next, keep up the good work Henning !![/p][/quote]I wouldnt put Givet in the same sentence as Dann. Dont forget, givet fought like a warrior the season we were saved on the last day. He is a good defender. merlinrabbit
  • Score: 12

6:19pm Wed 14 Nov 12

jeppo says...

Now, heres a signing that shows that Kean wasnt up to the job. Kean fell out with Emerton and Salgado last year so was left with Jason Lowe as the only right back. The only cover he could get was Bradley Orr from QPR reserves. Looking at Orr a couple of times this season, he has been decent, but no better than that in the Championship and struggled in the Prem.
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Berg has come in, seen that straight away and now is backing Henley as first choice, so Orr has to go.
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Mick McCarthy probably has no right backs at Ipswich, so wants one that will do a decent job and cost him nothing...good bit of business for all parties and most of all...
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pleasing that Henning has made this strong footballing decision at a time that the club is crying out for exactly that!
Now, heres a signing that shows that Kean wasnt up to the job. Kean fell out with Emerton and Salgado last year so was left with Jason Lowe as the only right back. The only cover he could get was Bradley Orr from QPR reserves. Looking at Orr a couple of times this season, he has been decent, but no better than that in the Championship and struggled in the Prem. . Berg has come in, seen that straight away and now is backing Henley as first choice, so Orr has to go. . Mick McCarthy probably has no right backs at Ipswich, so wants one that will do a decent job and cost him nothing...good bit of business for all parties and most of all... . pleasing that Henning has made this strong footballing decision at a time that the club is crying out for exactly that! jeppo
  • Score: 11

6:37pm Wed 14 Nov 12

Harrime says...

Wild Rover wrote:
Kinda shoots down the " Berg is a yes man comments" and the even more loony " Kean is still in charge " conspiracy loonie (hi there Smellie & Ronnie bit quiet aren't you) Anyways Orr was not good enough so HB has moved him on for the right reasons Can we stop keep banging on about SK and the perceived connections though? He is gone, lets move on
Hold on there ... one moment ... much as I'm delighted that the 'pleb' (can I say that?) Orr has gone - talentless both on and off the pitch and a good mate of Joey Barton (says it all!) ... I will say I don't think Henning is a 'yes' man - but I do know Shebby arrived at the club with a dislike of Orr and an admiation for Henley ... which although being quite good and showing good nouse - it is still quite worrying that power may go to Shebby's head!

Regardless the re-build is on - crap buys by Kean - OUT - can we rebuild with some characters like Short, Tugay, Jansen, et al (he could be Portuguese!) - again?

C'mon - must start with three points on Saturday ... up the blues! Currently 5 points worse off after 16 games than when we finished runners-up to Fulham!

Oh and Orr once Ipswich find out how truely s***e you are - don't even think of trying to driving back into town, there's enough s***e without you and your likes! Now sod off and Suffolk-Well!
[quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: Kinda shoots down the " Berg is a yes man comments" and the even more loony " Kean is still in charge " conspiracy loonie (hi there Smellie & Ronnie bit quiet aren't you) Anyways Orr was not good enough so HB has moved him on for the right reasons Can we stop keep banging on about SK and the perceived connections though? He is gone, lets move on[/p][/quote]Hold on there ... one moment ... much as I'm delighted that the 'pleb' (can I say that?) Orr has gone - talentless both on and off the pitch and a good mate of Joey Barton (says it all!) ... I will say I don't think Henning is a 'yes' man - but I do know Shebby arrived at the club with a dislike of Orr and an admiation for Henley ... which although being quite good and showing good nouse - it is still quite worrying that power may go to Shebby's head! Regardless the re-build is on - crap buys by Kean - OUT - can we rebuild with some characters like Short, Tugay, Jansen, et al (he could be Portuguese!) - again? C'mon - must start with three points on Saturday ... up the blues! Currently 5 points worse off after 16 games than when we finished runners-up to Fulham! Oh and Orr once Ipswich find out how truely s***e you are - don't even think of trying to driving back into town, there's enough s***e without you and your likes! Now sod off and Suffolk-Well! Harrime
  • Score: 4

6:41pm Wed 14 Nov 12

Captain Dreckley says...

Sportivo wrote:
Well done Henning. Gets rid of a below par player (I'm being kind), instantly gets the fans onside, plus if Ipswich sign him in January, it frees up a wage bill for a new player. Good work.

I find it ironic that it comes after Orr played - in my opinion - his best game for us against Watford. Not that I want him back :)

@silverstan. We badly need more centre-backs not less. Keep Dann and Givet for now. Just add better players too.
What we need in the back four is some leadership from an experienced player. Someone in the style of Ryan Nelson. Craig Short or even Berg himself. Dann has been a disappointment given the amount of money we paid for him but he will never lead the back line. Givet again isn't a leader.
[quote][p][bold]Sportivo[/bold] wrote: Well done Henning. Gets rid of a below par player (I'm being kind), instantly gets the fans onside, plus if Ipswich sign him in January, it frees up a wage bill for a new player. Good work. I find it ironic that it comes after Orr played - in my opinion - his best game for us against Watford. Not that I want him back :) @silverstan. We badly need more centre-backs not less. Keep Dann and Givet for now. Just add better players too.[/p][/quote]What we need in the back four is some leadership from an experienced player. Someone in the style of Ryan Nelson. Craig Short or even Berg himself. Dann has been a disappointment given the amount of money we paid for him but he will never lead the back line. Givet again isn't a leader. Captain Dreckley
  • Score: 4

6:47pm Wed 14 Nov 12

Harrime says...

ChrisDeBerg wrote:
I'm expecting a good ear-full for this one, but still... Have we got a loan replacement? We are short on defenders and we have let another one go out on loan... Don't get me wrong, up until the last couple of games I saw him as a total liability on the pitch and would have been glad for him to go and put a forward in defence... He has stepped his game up and I thought he was a contender for man of the match at one game. I applaud Berg for what he is doing at rovers, we really look like a team that is going to be returning to the rovers we have always been. If he has a replacement then I suppose that comment is pointless, if he doesn't then I'm a tad bit worried... Lets see anyway eh?! RTID
Right - Chris ... Orr is s***e we all pretty much knew that the minute e set foot in the club and before he displayed his serious lack of quality bot on and off he pitch!

Replacement? Well our best right-full back is now in the team - shame he was 4th choice with Kean at the begining of the season!

We also have Lowey who could move into that position and of course the lesser-spotted Bruno - who although probably not upto it at this level either is twice the player Orr will ever be!

Right so right full-back we can probably get away with now ... the right hand side of midfield and centre-back are two totally different conundrams altogether!

We've still not a single wide right midfield player on our books ... it took us the best part of two seasons to replace Duff ... and it's the same thing happening now on the right ... meanwhile for me Scott Dann isn't getting much better and Grant Hanley will NEVER be good enough even at championship level - I'm afraid to say ... he's our present day Martin Taylor/Bob Dewhurst rolled into one ... oh Scotland are sturggling - he's crap!

Gael is French - so you don't quite know what you'll get there - depends which way the wind is blowing ... and he was centre-back number 4 - inherited by Kean ... behind Samba, Jones and Nelsen!

A great squad of players inherited by Venky's and allowed to be ruined in the hands of Kean and his agent! -- END --
[quote][p][bold]ChrisDeBerg[/bold] wrote: I'm expecting a good ear-full for this one, but still... Have we got a loan replacement? We are short on defenders and we have let another one go out on loan... Don't get me wrong, up until the last couple of games I saw him as a total liability on the pitch and would have been glad for him to go and put a forward in defence... He has stepped his game up and I thought he was a contender for man of the match at one game. I applaud Berg for what he is doing at rovers, we really look like a team that is going to be returning to the rovers we have always been. If he has a replacement then I suppose that comment is pointless, if he doesn't then I'm a tad bit worried... Lets see anyway eh?! RTID[/p][/quote]Right - Chris ... Orr is s***e we all pretty much knew that the minute e set foot in the club and before he displayed his serious lack of quality bot on and off he pitch! Replacement? Well our best right-full back is now in the team - shame he was 4th choice with Kean at the begining of the season! We also have Lowey who could move into that position and of course the lesser-spotted Bruno - who although probably not upto it at this level either is twice the player Orr will ever be! Right so right full-back we can probably get away with now ... the right hand side of midfield and centre-back are two totally different conundrams altogether! We've still not a single wide right midfield player on our books ... it took us the best part of two seasons to replace Duff ... and it's the same thing happening now on the right ... meanwhile for me Scott Dann isn't getting much better and Grant Hanley will NEVER be good enough even at championship level - I'm afraid to say ... he's our present day Martin Taylor/Bob Dewhurst rolled into one ... oh Scotland are sturggling - he's crap! Gael is French - so you don't quite know what you'll get there - depends which way the wind is blowing ... and he was centre-back number 4 - inherited by Kean ... behind Samba, Jones and Nelsen! A great squad of players inherited by Venky's and allowed to be ruined in the hands of Kean and his agent! -- END -- Harrime
  • Score: 3

7:02pm Wed 14 Nov 12

BlueSkies says...

greenscreener wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
Lancs - pensioner wrote:
Just Dennis wrote:
Watched Bill Eckersley throughout his Rovers and England career.
Never once saw him play right back although he once played in goal when Harry Leyland was K.O'd during the pre match kick-in.
Seeing him don Harry's jersey was hillarious as it was many sizes too big and the sleeves came down over Bill's hands.
What about Chris Price, remember him, not a bad attacking full back?
Yes. Chris Price was a good one. And what about little Johnny Price the winger , Great to watch him skin the full backs.
And just to add a curious twist wasn't Chris Price the right back in the promotion winning side, who was replaced by, Henning Berg ?!

Didn't Johnny Price play on the opposite wing to Tony Field in the good old day of 2-3-5 ?
Price left us during Don Mackay's tenure to Villa, so before promotion to the Prem.
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Just Dennis[/bold] wrote: Watched Bill Eckersley throughout his Rovers and England career. Never once saw him play right back although he once played in goal when Harry Leyland was K.O'd during the pre match kick-in. Seeing him don Harry's jersey was hillarious as it was many sizes too big and the sleeves came down over Bill's hands.[/p][/quote]What about Chris Price, remember him, not a bad attacking full back?[/p][/quote]Yes. Chris Price was a good one. And what about little Johnny Price the winger , Great to watch him skin the full backs.[/p][/quote]And just to add a curious twist wasn't Chris Price the right back in the promotion winning side, who was replaced by, Henning Berg ?! Didn't Johnny Price play on the opposite wing to Tony Field in the good old day of 2-3-5 ?[/p][/quote]Price left us during Don Mackay's tenure to Villa, so before promotion to the Prem. BlueSkies
  • Score: 0

7:28pm Wed 14 Nov 12

blueblooded says...

ronnie clayton wrote:
TRY READING www.colinhendrylies.

com

And you will find out what the Colin Hendry ,really thought about and said about Henning Berg .
Hendry said and I quote " BERG IS A COWARD AND A GUTLESS NERVOUS WRECK".

That is not heresay that is fact.
Yet absurdly, they choose to work together..

Hmm.. Should I believe the evidence in front of my eyes or should I believe the words of someone defacing the name of a true legend and an obscure website?

Decisions decisions.. Time to bring out the magic 8 ball methinks..
[quote][p][bold]ronnie clayton[/bold] wrote: TRY READING www.colinhendrylies. com And you will find out what the Colin Hendry ,really thought about and said about Henning Berg . Hendry said and I quote " BERG IS A COWARD AND A GUTLESS NERVOUS WRECK". That is not heresay that is fact.[/p][/quote]Yet absurdly, they choose to work together.. Hmm.. Should I believe the evidence in front of my eyes or should I believe the words of someone defacing the name of a true legend and an obscure website? Decisions decisions.. Time to bring out the magic 8 ball methinks.. blueblooded
  • Score: 1

7:37pm Wed 14 Nov 12

devo12 says...

Dann needs to go he's probably worse than Orr, how BAD is our squad???? stop dreaming of Premier League return, Kean's squad is mediocre by Championship standards, mid-table finish, we need a major overhaul before we can think of promotion. The table doesn't lie! Let's hope Berg strengthens the squad SOON and gets in his own men ,we can still go up with a few new players.
Dann needs to go he's probably worse than Orr, how BAD is our squad???? stop dreaming of Premier League return, Kean's squad is mediocre by Championship standards, mid-table finish, we need a major overhaul before we can think of promotion. The table doesn't lie! Let's hope Berg strengthens the squad SOON and gets in his own men ,we can still go up with a few new players. devo12
  • Score: -2

7:41pm Wed 14 Nov 12

Ewood say that! says...

BlueSkies wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
Lancs - pensioner wrote:
Just Dennis wrote:
Watched Bill Eckersley throughout his Rovers and England career.
Never once saw him play right back although he once played in goal when Harry Leyland was K.O'd during the pre match kick-in.
Seeing him don Harry's jersey was hillarious as it was many sizes too big and the sleeves came down over Bill's hands.
What about Chris Price, remember him, not a bad attacking full back?
Yes. Chris Price was a good one. And what about little Johnny Price the winger , Great to watch him skin the full backs.
And just to add a curious twist wasn't Chris Price the right back in the promotion winning side, who was replaced by, Henning Berg ?!

Didn't Johnny Price play on the opposite wing to Tony Field in the good old day of 2-3-5 ?
Price left us during Don Mackay's tenure to Villa, so before promotion to the Prem.
Thought Chris Price came back for a second spell with us though? Kevin Hird was another good right back(with John Bailey left back) and don't forget Jim Brannigan who played 200+ games I think.Remember him scoring a 30 yard screamer into the Darwen End!! Modest but happy days!!
[quote][p][bold]BlueSkies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Just Dennis[/bold] wrote: Watched Bill Eckersley throughout his Rovers and England career. Never once saw him play right back although he once played in goal when Harry Leyland was K.O'd during the pre match kick-in. Seeing him don Harry's jersey was hillarious as it was many sizes too big and the sleeves came down over Bill's hands.[/p][/quote]What about Chris Price, remember him, not a bad attacking full back?[/p][/quote]Yes. Chris Price was a good one. And what about little Johnny Price the winger , Great to watch him skin the full backs.[/p][/quote]And just to add a curious twist wasn't Chris Price the right back in the promotion winning side, who was replaced by, Henning Berg ?! Didn't Johnny Price play on the opposite wing to Tony Field in the good old day of 2-3-5 ?[/p][/quote]Price left us during Don Mackay's tenure to Villa, so before promotion to the Prem.[/p][/quote]Thought Chris Price came back for a second spell with us though? Kevin Hird was another good right back(with John Bailey left back) and don't forget Jim Brannigan who played 200+ games I think.Remember him scoring a 30 yard screamer into the Darwen End!! Modest but happy days!! Ewood say that!
  • Score: 2

7:56pm Wed 14 Nov 12

allan1957 says...

Ewood say that! wrote:
BlueSkies wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
Lancs - pensioner wrote:
Just Dennis wrote:
Watched Bill Eckersley throughout his Rovers and England career.
Never once saw him play right back although he once played in goal when Harry Leyland was K.O'd during the pre match kick-in.
Seeing him don Harry's jersey was hillarious as it was many sizes too big and the sleeves came down over Bill's hands.
What about Chris Price, remember him, not a bad attacking full back?
Yes. Chris Price was a good one. And what about little Johnny Price the winger , Great to watch him skin the full backs.
And just to add a curious twist wasn't Chris Price the right back in the promotion winning side, who was replaced by, Henning Berg ?!

Didn't Johnny Price play on the opposite wing to Tony Field in the good old day of 2-3-5 ?
Price left us during Don Mackay's tenure to Villa, so before promotion to the Prem.
Thought Chris Price came back for a second spell with us though? Kevin Hird was another good right back(with John Bailey left back) and don't forget Jim Brannigan who played 200+ games I think.Remember him scoring a 30 yard screamer into the Darwen End!! Modest but happy days!!
Chris did play in our promotion to to the premiership Kenny brought him back from Villa, think he scored a vital goal for us at Ewood that kept us in the play-off positions after our bad run of results
[quote][p][bold]Ewood say that![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BlueSkies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Just Dennis[/bold] wrote: Watched Bill Eckersley throughout his Rovers and England career. Never once saw him play right back although he once played in goal when Harry Leyland was K.O'd during the pre match kick-in. Seeing him don Harry's jersey was hillarious as it was many sizes too big and the sleeves came down over Bill's hands.[/p][/quote]What about Chris Price, remember him, not a bad attacking full back?[/p][/quote]Yes. Chris Price was a good one. And what about little Johnny Price the winger , Great to watch him skin the full backs.[/p][/quote]And just to add a curious twist wasn't Chris Price the right back in the promotion winning side, who was replaced by, Henning Berg ?! Didn't Johnny Price play on the opposite wing to Tony Field in the good old day of 2-3-5 ?[/p][/quote]Price left us during Don Mackay's tenure to Villa, so before promotion to the Prem.[/p][/quote]Thought Chris Price came back for a second spell with us though? Kevin Hird was another good right back(with John Bailey left back) and don't forget Jim Brannigan who played 200+ games I think.Remember him scoring a 30 yard screamer into the Darwen End!! Modest but happy days!![/p][/quote]Chris did play in our promotion to to the premiership Kenny brought him back from Villa, think he scored a vital goal for us at Ewood that kept us in the play-off positions after our bad run of results allan1957
  • Score: 3

8:12pm Wed 14 Nov 12

Harwoodstblue says...

devo12 wrote:
Dann needs to go he's probably worse than Orr, how BAD is our squad???? stop dreaming of Premier League return, Kean's squad is mediocre by Championship standards, mid-table finish, we need a major overhaul before we can think of promotion. The table doesn't lie! Let's hope Berg strengthens the squad SOON and gets in his own men ,we can still go up with a few new players.
The squad really has been weakened beyond belief and bears no resemblance to the one Kean inherited from Allardyce. We all saw it happening before our very eyes.
The Indians must have never have heard the saying ,' If it aint broken don't fix it.'
[quote][p][bold]devo12[/bold] wrote: Dann needs to go he's probably worse than Orr, how BAD is our squad???? stop dreaming of Premier League return, Kean's squad is mediocre by Championship standards, mid-table finish, we need a major overhaul before we can think of promotion. The table doesn't lie! Let's hope Berg strengthens the squad SOON and gets in his own men ,we can still go up with a few new players.[/p][/quote]The squad really has been weakened beyond belief and bears no resemblance to the one Kean inherited from Allardyce. We all saw it happening before our very eyes. The Indians must have never have heard the saying ,' If it aint broken don't fix it.' Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 2

8:41pm Wed 14 Nov 12

kazluvsrovers says...

Nuttall Street wrote:
Things must be desperate at Ipswich!
I am glad to see the back of this creep!
The persons most surplus to requirements at Ewood Park are Colin Hendry and then the Global Adviser (whatever that means!), but this is a good start.
Things must be dire at Ipswich though.
Aren't we glad we didn't end up with Mick McCarthy!!
So glad we got Berg, the future is looking bright.
Henning will sort out the players who want to play for Rovers and ship out the dead legs,
Come on you Blues!!!
[quote][p][bold]Nuttall Street[/bold] wrote: Things must be desperate at Ipswich! I am glad to see the back of this creep! The persons most surplus to requirements at Ewood Park are Colin Hendry and then the Global Adviser (whatever that means!), but this is a good start. Things must be dire at Ipswich though.[/p][/quote]Aren't we glad we didn't end up with Mick McCarthy!! So glad we got Berg, the future is looking bright. Henning will sort out the players who want to play for Rovers and ship out the dead legs, Come on you Blues!!! kazluvsrovers
  • Score: 4

8:48pm Wed 14 Nov 12

kazluvsrovers says...

silverstan wrote:
Orr gone, Dann & Givet next, keep up the good work Henning !!
Nooooo, Dont let Givet go, he will improve so much under Berg and god loves a tryer, give him a few more months I promise you he will become a very important part of our defence!!!!
[quote][p][bold]silverstan[/bold] wrote: Orr gone, Dann & Givet next, keep up the good work Henning !![/p][/quote]Nooooo, Dont let Givet go, he will improve so much under Berg and god loves a tryer, give him a few more months I promise you he will become a very important part of our defence!!!! kazluvsrovers
  • Score: 2

8:53pm Wed 14 Nov 12

kazluvsrovers says...

Just Dennis wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
Just Dennis wrote: Watched Bill Eckersley throughout his Rovers and England career. Never once saw him play right back although he once played in goal when Harry Leyland was K.O'd during the pre match kick-in. Seeing him don Harry's jersey was hillarious as it was many sizes too big and the sleeves came down over Bill's hands.
Dennis, I take my hat off to you with respect sir, Eckersley retired about 50 years ago and played about 400 times for Rovers, so you must be the same generation as Jack Walker. Hope you are still going down to Ewood Park, most of your mates are probably in the Riverside !
Cheers Greenscreenner
Stood on the Riverside for decades with my mates several of whom have now joined Uncle Jack looking down from that Grandstand in the sky watching the sad events of the last two years.
Abandoned my season ticket seat in the JW Stand at the end of last season as a protest against the Venkys/Kean regime taking the club away from the supporters.
This has left a gap in my life as a lifelong Rovers supporter and I am fervently hoping for Venkys somehow to get the club back running along the right track and for Henning,who I always admired as a player, to prove successful.
Hope I will be returning soon to spend a few more happy years!
Aaah bless! Dont worry Dennis the good times are just around the corner!
[quote][p][bold]Just Dennis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Just Dennis[/bold] wrote: Watched Bill Eckersley throughout his Rovers and England career. Never once saw him play right back although he once played in goal when Harry Leyland was K.O'd during the pre match kick-in. Seeing him don Harry's jersey was hillarious as it was many sizes too big and the sleeves came down over Bill's hands.[/p][/quote]Dennis, I take my hat off to you with respect sir, Eckersley retired about 50 years ago and played about 400 times for Rovers, so you must be the same generation as Jack Walker. Hope you are still going down to Ewood Park, most of your mates are probably in the Riverside ![/p][/quote]Cheers Greenscreenner Stood on the Riverside for decades with my mates several of whom have now joined Uncle Jack looking down from that Grandstand in the sky watching the sad events of the last two years. Abandoned my season ticket seat in the JW Stand at the end of last season as a protest against the Venkys/Kean regime taking the club away from the supporters. This has left a gap in my life as a lifelong Rovers supporter and I am fervently hoping for Venkys somehow to get the club back running along the right track and for Henning,who I always admired as a player, to prove successful. Hope I will be returning soon to spend a few more happy years![/p][/quote]Aaah bless! Dont worry Dennis the good times are just around the corner! kazluvsrovers
  • Score: 2

9:16pm Wed 14 Nov 12

diamonds2india says...

I concur with the others. He didn't endear himself to the Rovers supporters by remaining loyal to Kean. Problem is, a lot of players talked fondly of Kean. What was it he did for them???
I concur with the others. He didn't endear himself to the Rovers supporters by remaining loyal to Kean. Problem is, a lot of players talked fondly of Kean. What was it he did for them??? diamonds2india
  • Score: 6

9:20pm Wed 14 Nov 12

Dukes says...

his day are over now rovers looking at other targets he been poor signing for the club.

shebby never got on with him to.
his day are over now rovers looking at other targets he been poor signing for the club. shebby never got on with him to. Dukes
  • Score: 1

9:32pm Wed 14 Nov 12

diamonds2india says...

devo12 wrote:
Dann needs to go he's probably worse than Orr, how BAD is our squad???? stop dreaming of Premier League return, Kean's squad is mediocre by Championship standards, mid-table finish, we need a major overhaul before we can think of promotion. The table doesn't lie! Let's hope Berg strengthens the squad SOON and gets in his own men ,we can still go up with a few new players.
It's ok saying go out and spend money on players but where is the money coming from?? All the money spent on agent's fees last year was astronomical. The club cannot spend money it hasn't got it would be foolish and irresponsible. 38 players on the books by all accounts and we drastically need to reduce the numbers to get the wages down. We should have no more than 25 - 30 pros.
[quote][p][bold]devo12[/bold] wrote: Dann needs to go he's probably worse than Orr, how BAD is our squad???? stop dreaming of Premier League return, Kean's squad is mediocre by Championship standards, mid-table finish, we need a major overhaul before we can think of promotion. The table doesn't lie! Let's hope Berg strengthens the squad SOON and gets in his own men ,we can still go up with a few new players.[/p][/quote]It's ok saying go out and spend money on players but where is the money coming from?? All the money spent on agent's fees last year was astronomical. The club cannot spend money it hasn't got it would be foolish and irresponsible. 38 players on the books by all accounts and we drastically need to reduce the numbers to get the wages down. We should have no more than 25 - 30 pros. diamonds2india
  • Score: 2

9:34pm Wed 14 Nov 12

Old Alzheimer says...

T'would appear that things are now moviong in the right direction !!
T'would appear that things are now moviong in the right direction !! Old Alzheimer
  • Score: 2

9:42pm Wed 14 Nov 12

diamonds2india says...

kazluvsrovers wrote:
Nuttall Street wrote: Things must be desperate at Ipswich! I am glad to see the back of this creep! The persons most surplus to requirements at Ewood Park are Colin Hendry and then the Global Adviser (whatever that means!), but this is a good start. Things must be dire at Ipswich though.
Aren't we glad we didn't end up with Mick McCarthy!! So glad we got Berg, the future is looking bright. Henning will sort out the players who want to play for Rovers and ship out the dead legs, Come on you Blues!!!
I agree...he needs to ship out the dead legs but they have to be off the books - not just loaned out. Perhaps they should also get rid of Dunn, Pederson and Givet?? Pederson is allegedly on 50k a week so we need to get his wages off the balance sheet. I think for the good of the club, the fans need to know exactly who earns what!! It is important for the future of the club to have some transparency. We do not want to end up as another Portsmouth. Good to see Rhodes scoring twice tonight btw!!
[quote][p][bold]kazluvsrovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nuttall Street[/bold] wrote: Things must be desperate at Ipswich! I am glad to see the back of this creep! The persons most surplus to requirements at Ewood Park are Colin Hendry and then the Global Adviser (whatever that means!), but this is a good start. Things must be dire at Ipswich though.[/p][/quote]Aren't we glad we didn't end up with Mick McCarthy!! So glad we got Berg, the future is looking bright. Henning will sort out the players who want to play for Rovers and ship out the dead legs, Come on you Blues!!![/p][/quote]I agree...he needs to ship out the dead legs but they have to be off the books - not just loaned out. Perhaps they should also get rid of Dunn, Pederson and Givet?? Pederson is allegedly on 50k a week so we need to get his wages off the balance sheet. I think for the good of the club, the fans need to know exactly who earns what!! It is important for the future of the club to have some transparency. We do not want to end up as another Portsmouth. Good to see Rhodes scoring twice tonight btw!! diamonds2india
  • Score: 6

9:46pm Wed 14 Nov 12

perolsman says...

Orr is a shinning example of Kean's dog **** managerial/coaching abilities.
Orr is a shinning example of Kean's dog **** managerial/coaching abilities. perolsman
  • Score: 4

9:49pm Wed 14 Nov 12

diamonds2india says...

allan1957 wrote:
Ewood say that! wrote:
BlueSkies wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
Lancs - pensioner wrote:
Just Dennis wrote: Watched Bill Eckersley throughout his Rovers and England career. Never once saw him play right back although he once played in goal when Harry Leyland was K.O'd during the pre match kick-in. Seeing him don Harry's jersey was hillarious as it was many sizes too big and the sleeves came down over Bill's hands.
What about Chris Price, remember him, not a bad attacking full back?
Yes. Chris Price was a good one. And what about little Johnny Price the winger , Great to watch him skin the full backs.
And just to add a curious twist wasn't Chris Price the right back in the promotion winning side, who was replaced by, Henning Berg ?! Didn't Johnny Price play on the opposite wing to Tony Field in the good old day of 2-3-5 ?
Price left us during Don Mackay's tenure to Villa, so before promotion to the Prem.
Thought Chris Price came back for a second spell with us though? Kevin Hird was another good right back(with John Bailey left back) and don't forget Jim Brannigan who played 200+ games I think.Remember him scoring a 30 yard screamer into the Darwen End!! Modest but happy days!!
Chris did play in our promotion to to the premiership Kenny brought him back from Villa, think he scored a vital goal for us at Ewood that kept us in the play-off positions after our bad run of results
I remember the classic game against Leicester. Newell was playing for Leicester. i think it's on Youtube somewhere. 3-3 if my memory serves me right.
[quote][p][bold]allan1957[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ewood say that![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BlueSkies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Just Dennis[/bold] wrote: Watched Bill Eckersley throughout his Rovers and England career. Never once saw him play right back although he once played in goal when Harry Leyland was K.O'd during the pre match kick-in. Seeing him don Harry's jersey was hillarious as it was many sizes too big and the sleeves came down over Bill's hands.[/p][/quote]What about Chris Price, remember him, not a bad attacking full back?[/p][/quote]Yes. Chris Price was a good one. And what about little Johnny Price the winger , Great to watch him skin the full backs.[/p][/quote]And just to add a curious twist wasn't Chris Price the right back in the promotion winning side, who was replaced by, Henning Berg ?! Didn't Johnny Price play on the opposite wing to Tony Field in the good old day of 2-3-5 ?[/p][/quote]Price left us during Don Mackay's tenure to Villa, so before promotion to the Prem.[/p][/quote]Thought Chris Price came back for a second spell with us though? Kevin Hird was another good right back(with John Bailey left back) and don't forget Jim Brannigan who played 200+ games I think.Remember him scoring a 30 yard screamer into the Darwen End!! Modest but happy days!![/p][/quote]Chris did play in our promotion to to the premiership Kenny brought him back from Villa, think he scored a vital goal for us at Ewood that kept us in the play-off positions after our bad run of results[/p][/quote]I remember the classic game against Leicester. Newell was playing for Leicester. i think it's on Youtube somewhere. 3-3 if my memory serves me right. diamonds2india
  • Score: 2

10:05pm Wed 14 Nov 12

diamonds2india says...

btw does anyone know who does the frequent trips to India now that Kean has gone?? Is it Shebby?
btw does anyone know who does the frequent trips to India now that Kean has gone?? Is it Shebby? diamonds2india
  • Score: 4

10:26pm Wed 14 Nov 12

Stone Island: says...

ronnie clayton wrote:
TRY READING www.colinhendrylies.

com

And you will find out what the Colin Hendry ,really thought about and said about Henning Berg .
Hendry said and I quote " BERG IS A COWARD AND A GUTLESS NERVOUS WRECK".

That is not heresay that is fact.
And what did berg say about the Venky's, just a few short months ago? Something along the lines of: 'No credible manager would accept the role'
Now they are all on the gravy train, they all appear to be the best of buddies.

Sickening, absolutely sickening.
[quote][p][bold]ronnie clayton[/bold] wrote: TRY READING www.colinhendrylies. com And you will find out what the Colin Hendry ,really thought about and said about Henning Berg . Hendry said and I quote " BERG IS A COWARD AND A GUTLESS NERVOUS WRECK". That is not heresay that is fact.[/p][/quote]And what did berg say about the Venky's, just a few short months ago? Something along the lines of: 'No credible manager would accept the role' Now they are all on the gravy train, they all appear to be the best of buddies. Sickening, absolutely sickening. Stone Island:
  • Score: -1

10:41pm Wed 14 Nov 12

Only1Garner says...

East Anglian Times reports that Orr had to leave Ewood as he was not happy with things at boardroom level, does he mean Shebby new Orr is cr*p and wanted him out?
East Anglian Times reports that Orr had to leave Ewood as he was not happy with things at boardroom level, does he mean Shebby new Orr is cr*p and wanted him out? Only1Garner
  • Score: 3

10:42pm Wed 14 Nov 12

French Rover says...

diamonds2india wrote:
kazluvsrovers wrote:
Nuttall Street wrote: Things must be desperate at Ipswich! I am glad to see the back of this creep! The persons most surplus to requirements at Ewood Park are Colin Hendry and then the Global Adviser (whatever that means!), but this is a good start. Things must be dire at Ipswich though.
Aren't we glad we didn't end up with Mick McCarthy!! So glad we got Berg, the future is looking bright. Henning will sort out the players who want to play for Rovers and ship out the dead legs, Come on you Blues!!!
I agree...he needs to ship out the dead legs but they have to be off the books - not just loaned out. Perhaps they should also get rid of Dunn, Pederson and Givet?? Pederson is allegedly on 50k a week so we need to get his wages off the balance sheet. I think for the good of the club, the fans need to know exactly who earns what!! It is important for the future of the club to have some transparency. We do not want to end up as another Portsmouth. Good to see Rhodes scoring twice tonight btw!!
Givet and Pederson both have the top level - big game experience that the squad and the team really needs. Both can still do a very good job for the Rovers at this level. To get rid of either this season would be a big mistake and I think Berg will know that. Agree about Rhodes, playing and scoring at International level will help him progress and help us also. The 8 million (which includes all the add-ons) is beginning to look like the steal of the season.
[quote][p][bold]diamonds2india[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kazluvsrovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nuttall Street[/bold] wrote: Things must be desperate at Ipswich! I am glad to see the back of this creep! The persons most surplus to requirements at Ewood Park are Colin Hendry and then the Global Adviser (whatever that means!), but this is a good start. Things must be dire at Ipswich though.[/p][/quote]Aren't we glad we didn't end up with Mick McCarthy!! So glad we got Berg, the future is looking bright. Henning will sort out the players who want to play for Rovers and ship out the dead legs, Come on you Blues!!![/p][/quote]I agree...he needs to ship out the dead legs but they have to be off the books - not just loaned out. Perhaps they should also get rid of Dunn, Pederson and Givet?? Pederson is allegedly on 50k a week so we need to get his wages off the balance sheet. I think for the good of the club, the fans need to know exactly who earns what!! It is important for the future of the club to have some transparency. We do not want to end up as another Portsmouth. Good to see Rhodes scoring twice tonight btw!![/p][/quote]Givet and Pederson both have the top level - big game experience that the squad and the team really needs. Both can still do a very good job for the Rovers at this level. To get rid of either this season would be a big mistake and I think Berg will know that. Agree about Rhodes, playing and scoring at International level will help him progress and help us also. The 8 million (which includes all the add-ons) is beginning to look like the steal of the season. French Rover
  • Score: 6

10:50pm Wed 14 Nov 12

xrayspex77 says...

Road Runner Road Runner wrote:
No place for shysters down at the good ship Ewood, and Orr shows his true colors - not up for the fight under a winner of numerous medals.

Cheerio, cheerio, cheerio....

So it goes.....

Arte et labore
It is colour dear boy
[quote][p][bold]Road Runner Road Runner[/bold] wrote: No place for shysters down at the good ship Ewood, and Orr shows his true colors - not up for the fight under a winner of numerous medals. Cheerio, cheerio, cheerio.... So it goes..... Arte et labore[/p][/quote]It is colour dear boy xrayspex77
  • Score: 0

10:53pm Wed 14 Nov 12

diamonds2india says...

French Rover wrote:
diamonds2india wrote:
kazluvsrovers wrote:
Nuttall Street wrote: Things must be desperate at Ipswich! I am glad to see the back of this creep! The persons most surplus to requirements at Ewood Park are Colin Hendry and then the Global Adviser (whatever that means!), but this is a good start. Things must be dire at Ipswich though.
Aren't we glad we didn't end up with Mick McCarthy!! So glad we got Berg, the future is looking bright. Henning will sort out the players who want to play for Rovers and ship out the dead legs, Come on you Blues!!!
I agree...he needs to ship out the dead legs but they have to be off the books - not just loaned out. Perhaps they should also get rid of Dunn, Pederson and Givet?? Pederson is allegedly on 50k a week so we need to get his wages off the balance sheet. I think for the good of the club, the fans need to know exactly who earns what!! It is important for the future of the club to have some transparency. We do not want to end up as another Portsmouth. Good to see Rhodes scoring twice tonight btw!!
Givet and Pederson both have the top level - big game experience that the squad and the team really needs. Both can still do a very good job for the Rovers at this level. To get rid of either this season would be a big mistake and I think Berg will know that. Agree about Rhodes, playing and scoring at International level will help him progress and help us also. The 8 million (which includes all the add-ons) is beginning to look like the steal of the season.
Sorry FR have to disagree....Givet hasn't been the player he was since the suspicious money issues. Time for him to go I think!!
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]diamonds2india[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kazluvsrovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nuttall Street[/bold] wrote: Things must be desperate at Ipswich! I am glad to see the back of this creep! The persons most surplus to requirements at Ewood Park are Colin Hendry and then the Global Adviser (whatever that means!), but this is a good start. Things must be dire at Ipswich though.[/p][/quote]Aren't we glad we didn't end up with Mick McCarthy!! So glad we got Berg, the future is looking bright. Henning will sort out the players who want to play for Rovers and ship out the dead legs, Come on you Blues!!![/p][/quote]I agree...he needs to ship out the dead legs but they have to be off the books - not just loaned out. Perhaps they should also get rid of Dunn, Pederson and Givet?? Pederson is allegedly on 50k a week so we need to get his wages off the balance sheet. I think for the good of the club, the fans need to know exactly who earns what!! It is important for the future of the club to have some transparency. We do not want to end up as another Portsmouth. Good to see Rhodes scoring twice tonight btw!![/p][/quote]Givet and Pederson both have the top level - big game experience that the squad and the team really needs. Both can still do a very good job for the Rovers at this level. To get rid of either this season would be a big mistake and I think Berg will know that. Agree about Rhodes, playing and scoring at International level will help him progress and help us also. The 8 million (which includes all the add-ons) is beginning to look like the steal of the season.[/p][/quote]Sorry FR have to disagree....Givet hasn't been the player he was since the suspicious money issues. Time for him to go I think!! diamonds2india
  • Score: 1

11:01pm Wed 14 Nov 12

diamonds2india says...

...and it looks like Dunny is only being used nowadays to flog chicken in pathetic ads for Venky's. His fitness levels have never been the best but I think he's just not bothered any more...boy...that is one guy who would have loved to have seen the back of Big Sam and his fitness regime!! Isn't that right Harwood Blue?? btw what happened to Morst?? Did he get his laptop stolen from Brockhall ?? lol
...and it looks like Dunny is only being used nowadays to flog chicken in pathetic ads for Venky's. His fitness levels have never been the best but I think he's just not bothered any more...boy...that is one guy who would have loved to have seen the back of Big Sam and his fitness regime!! Isn't that right Harwood Blue?? btw what happened to Morst?? Did he get his laptop stolen from Brockhall ?? lol diamonds2india
  • Score: 8

11:12pm Wed 14 Nov 12

diamonds2india says...

Wow, it's like panto season on here. "French Rover" can you give us a breakdown of characters and the "actors" that appear on here? Cheers!!
Wow, it's like panto season on here. "French Rover" can you give us a breakdown of characters and the "actors" that appear on here? Cheers!! diamonds2india
  • Score: 3

11:17pm Wed 14 Nov 12

diamonds2india says...

I live in Lytham and I see Hendry out on occasions...funnily enough he always has a bald guy stood nearby watching him. The guy isn't Kean but looks just as suspicious!! Wonder if Hendry's being followed for some reason??
I live in Lytham and I see Hendry out on occasions...funnily enough he always has a bald guy stood nearby watching him. The guy isn't Kean but looks just as suspicious!! Wonder if Hendry's being followed for some reason?? diamonds2india
  • Score: 4

11:21pm Wed 14 Nov 12

diamonds2india says...

Perhaps Andy Cryer could explain to his employers why users are getting banned on here for objecting to the inner "goings on" at Ewood.
Perhaps Andy Cryer could explain to his employers why users are getting banned on here for objecting to the inner "goings on" at Ewood. diamonds2india
  • Score: 4

11:57pm Wed 14 Nov 12

diamonds2india says...

Wow!! It's all gone quiet again. Pretty shameful "Harwood Blue"!! Do you not think?? Is it time for those involved to come clean to the FA authorities and police?
Wow!! It's all gone quiet again. Pretty shameful "Harwood Blue"!! Do you not think?? Is it time for those involved to come clean to the FA authorities and police? diamonds2india
  • Score: 2

12:17am Thu 15 Nov 12

RespectTheK-Dog says...

Iiii1111 wrote:
The final straw was when orr turned up wearing 'i luv steve Kean' t-shirt for trianiing
And it had images of Orr fellating Kean. Disgusting. What would Margaret Kean think about Steve getting sucked off by a really sh*it player before he'd had his 8 pints of heavy for breakfast?
[quote][p][bold]Iiii1111[/bold] wrote: The final straw was when orr turned up wearing 'i luv steve Kean' t-shirt for trianiing[/p][/quote]And it had images of Orr fellating Kean. Disgusting. What would Margaret Kean think about Steve getting sucked off by a really sh*it player before he'd had his 8 pints of heavy for breakfast? RespectTheK-Dog
  • Score: 0

12:19am Thu 15 Nov 12

RespectTheK-Dog says...

Only1Garner wrote:
East Anglian Times reports that Orr had to leave Ewood as he was not happy with things at boardroom level, does he mean Shebby new Orr is cr*p and wanted him out?
Perhaps Orr thought the entire management structure at Ewood was a pathetic joke?

Just a wild stab in the dark
[quote][p][bold]Only1Garner[/bold] wrote: East Anglian Times reports that Orr had to leave Ewood as he was not happy with things at boardroom level, does he mean Shebby new Orr is cr*p and wanted him out?[/p][/quote]Perhaps Orr thought the entire management structure at Ewood was a pathetic joke? Just a wild stab in the dark RespectTheK-Dog
  • Score: 0

12:22am Thu 15 Nov 12

diamonds2india says...

Stone Island: wrote:
ronnie clayton wrote: TRY READING www.colinhendrylies. com And you will find out what the Colin Hendry ,really thought about and said about Henning Berg . Hendry said and I quote " BERG IS A COWARD AND A GUTLESS NERVOUS WRECK". That is not heresay that is fact.
And what did berg say about the Venky's, just a few short months ago? Something along the lines of: 'No credible manager would accept the role' Now they are all on the gravy train, they all appear to be the best of buddies. Sickening, absolutely sickening.
I think Berg's days are numbered along with a number of players and associates. We could be about to see the unfolding of one of the biggest scandals in footballing history.
[quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ronnie clayton[/bold] wrote: TRY READING www.colinhendrylies. com And you will find out what the Colin Hendry ,really thought about and said about Henning Berg . Hendry said and I quote " BERG IS A COWARD AND A GUTLESS NERVOUS WRECK". That is not heresay that is fact.[/p][/quote]And what did berg say about the Venky's, just a few short months ago? Something along the lines of: 'No credible manager would accept the role' Now they are all on the gravy train, they all appear to be the best of buddies. Sickening, absolutely sickening.[/p][/quote]I think Berg's days are numbered along with a number of players and associates. We could be about to see the unfolding of one of the biggest scandals in footballing history. diamonds2india
  • Score: 1

12:24am Thu 15 Nov 12

RespectTheK-Dog says...

ronnie clayton wrote:
TRY READING www.colinhendrylies.

com

And you will find out what the Colin Hendry ,really thought about and said about Henning Berg .
Hendry said and I quote " BERG IS A COWARD AND A GUTLESS NERVOUS WRECK".

That is not heresay that is fact.
Yeah but Hendry probably won't remember because he was nutted on 9 cans of special brew.

And what does a random verbal outburst from a violent Scottish degenerate drunk count for these days anyway?

At least he wasn't swinging lumps of wood at Henning Berg's shiny head. (He saves that for his woman.)

ARTE ET LABORE...and wife beating and getting smashed and doing your brains on William Hill casino before defrauding your neighbours and going bankrupt. Och aye
[quote][p][bold]ronnie clayton[/bold] wrote: TRY READING www.colinhendrylies. com And you will find out what the Colin Hendry ,really thought about and said about Henning Berg . Hendry said and I quote " BERG IS A COWARD AND A GUTLESS NERVOUS WRECK". That is not heresay that is fact.[/p][/quote]Yeah but Hendry probably won't remember because he was nutted on 9 cans of special brew. And what does a random verbal outburst from a violent Scottish degenerate drunk count for these days anyway? At least he wasn't swinging lumps of wood at Henning Berg's shiny head. (He saves that for his woman.) ARTE ET LABORE...and wife beating and getting smashed and doing your brains on William Hill casino before defrauding your neighbours and going bankrupt. Och aye RespectTheK-Dog
  • Score: 5

1:11am Thu 15 Nov 12

SimonGarner says...

Bradley Orr can do one.

No-one will ever forget his highly orchestrated, clearly bribed interviews at the back end of last season.

His lack of integrity will take him further down the leagues, as well as his total ineptitude as a footballer.

Good riddance.
Bradley Orr can do one. No-one will ever forget his highly orchestrated, clearly bribed interviews at the back end of last season. His lack of integrity will take him further down the leagues, as well as his total ineptitude as a footballer. Good riddance. SimonGarner
  • Score: 1

1:55am Thu 15 Nov 12

rovers82 says...

waiting for the first Berg's win and many more to come!
waiting for the first Berg's win and many more to come! rovers82
  • Score: 1

3:34am Thu 15 Nov 12

diamonds2india says...

SimonGarner wrote:
Bradley Orr can do one. No-one will ever forget his highly orchestrated, clearly bribed interviews at the back end of last season. His lack of integrity will take him further down the leagues, as well as his total ineptitude as a footballer. Good riddance.
Plus he's one of a few connections that Rovers have with QPR...
[quote][p][bold]SimonGarner[/bold] wrote: Bradley Orr can do one. No-one will ever forget his highly orchestrated, clearly bribed interviews at the back end of last season. His lack of integrity will take him further down the leagues, as well as his total ineptitude as a footballer. Good riddance.[/p][/quote]Plus he's one of a few connections that Rovers have with QPR... diamonds2india
  • Score: 0

5:41am Thu 15 Nov 12

whappen says...

Stone Island: wrote:
ronnie clayton wrote: TRY READING www.colinhendrylies. com And you will find out what the Colin Hendry ,really thought about and said about Henning Berg . Hendry said and I quote " BERG IS A COWARD AND A GUTLESS NERVOUS WRECK". That is not heresay that is fact.
And what did berg say about the Venky's, just a few short months ago? Something along the lines of: 'No credible manager would accept the role' Now they are all on the gravy train, they all appear to be the best of buddies. Sickening, absolutely sickening.
You quote that from where / who, prat 2? One of the voices in your head or the pi$$head sitting in the corner at your local?

Oh and thanks for the link........yet again.
[quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ronnie clayton[/bold] wrote: TRY READING www.colinhendrylies. com And you will find out what the Colin Hendry ,really thought about and said about Henning Berg . Hendry said and I quote " BERG IS A COWARD AND A GUTLESS NERVOUS WRECK". That is not heresay that is fact.[/p][/quote]And what did berg say about the Venky's, just a few short months ago? Something along the lines of: 'No credible manager would accept the role' Now they are all on the gravy train, they all appear to be the best of buddies. Sickening, absolutely sickening.[/p][/quote]You quote that from where / who, prat 2? One of the voices in your head or the pi$$head sitting in the corner at your local? Oh and thanks for the link........yet again. whappen
  • Score: 0

5:46am Thu 15 Nov 12

diamonds2india says...

whappen wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
ronnie clayton wrote: TRY READING www.colinhendrylies. com And you will find out what the Colin Hendry ,really thought about and said about Henning Berg . Hendry said and I quote " BERG IS A COWARD AND A GUTLESS NERVOUS WRECK". That is not heresay that is fact.
And what did berg say about the Venky's, just a few short months ago? Something along the lines of: 'No credible manager would accept the role' Now they are all on the gravy train, they all appear to be the best of buddies. Sickening, absolutely sickening.
You quote that from where / who, prat 2? One of the voices in your head or the pi$$head sitting in the corner at your local? Oh and thanks for the link........yet again.
trouble sleeping??
[quote][p][bold]whappen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ronnie clayton[/bold] wrote: TRY READING www.colinhendrylies. com And you will find out what the Colin Hendry ,really thought about and said about Henning Berg . Hendry said and I quote " BERG IS A COWARD AND A GUTLESS NERVOUS WRECK". That is not heresay that is fact.[/p][/quote]And what did berg say about the Venky's, just a few short months ago? Something along the lines of: 'No credible manager would accept the role' Now they are all on the gravy train, they all appear to be the best of buddies. Sickening, absolutely sickening.[/p][/quote]You quote that from where / who, prat 2? One of the voices in your head or the pi$$head sitting in the corner at your local? Oh and thanks for the link........yet again.[/p][/quote]trouble sleeping?? diamonds2india
  • Score: 1

7:52am Thu 15 Nov 12

Cumbrian Blue says...

Haven't read all of this thread - so my apologies if somebody else has mentioned this already.

Chris Price was one of my favourite full backs. Remember him being an integral part of Don Mackay's team that had a long unbeaten run that finally ended in a loss away at Stoke.

Anyway, talking about him on this forum led me to check him out on Wikipedia.

It would seem he has suffered a terrible accident in Australia.

http://en.m.wikipedi
a.org/wiki/Chris_Pri
ce#section_1

My best wishes to you Chris - thank you for all the entertainment when I was a teenager. Hope things improve for you.
Haven't read all of this thread - so my apologies if somebody else has mentioned this already. Chris Price was one of my favourite full backs. Remember him being an integral part of Don Mackay's team that had a long unbeaten run that finally ended in a loss away at Stoke. Anyway, talking about him on this forum led me to check him out on Wikipedia. It would seem he has suffered a terrible accident in Australia. http://en.m.wikipedi a.org/wiki/Chris_Pri ce#section_1 My best wishes to you Chris - thank you for all the entertainment when I was a teenager. Hope things improve for you. Cumbrian Blue
  • Score: 1

8:00am Thu 15 Nov 12

French Rover says...

diamonds2india wrote:
French Rover wrote:
diamonds2india wrote:
kazluvsrovers wrote:
Nuttall Street wrote: Things must be desperate at Ipswich! I am glad to see the back of this creep! The persons most surplus to requirements at Ewood Park are Colin Hendry and then the Global Adviser (whatever that means!), but this is a good start. Things must be dire at Ipswich though.
Aren't we glad we didn't end up with Mick McCarthy!! So glad we got Berg, the future is looking bright. Henning will sort out the players who want to play for Rovers and ship out the dead legs, Come on you Blues!!!
I agree...he needs to ship out the dead legs but they have to be off the books - not just loaned out. Perhaps they should also get rid of Dunn, Pederson and Givet?? Pederson is allegedly on 50k a week so we need to get his wages off the balance sheet. I think for the good of the club, the fans need to know exactly who earns what!! It is important for the future of the club to have some transparency. We do not want to end up as another Portsmouth. Good to see Rhodes scoring twice tonight btw!!
Givet and Pederson both have the top level - big game experience that the squad and the team really needs. Both can still do a very good job for the Rovers at this level. To get rid of either this season would be a big mistake and I think Berg will know that. Agree about Rhodes, playing and scoring at International level will help him progress and help us also. The 8 million (which includes all the add-ons) is beginning to look like the steal of the season.
Sorry FR have to disagree....Givet hasn't been the player he was since the suspicious money issues. Time for him to go I think!!
Nope - this young squad - and especially the defense - needs Givet's experience UNLESS they can bring in a more experienced and equally as good or better CH. As for the pantomime cast you mention.....well you read the blogs so maybe you can write the review Mr. D2I.....as I am far too decent a bloke to dish the dirt on my friendly fellow bloggers.
[quote][p][bold]diamonds2india[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]diamonds2india[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kazluvsrovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nuttall Street[/bold] wrote: Things must be desperate at Ipswich! I am glad to see the back of this creep! The persons most surplus to requirements at Ewood Park are Colin Hendry and then the Global Adviser (whatever that means!), but this is a good start. Things must be dire at Ipswich though.[/p][/quote]Aren't we glad we didn't end up with Mick McCarthy!! So glad we got Berg, the future is looking bright. Henning will sort out the players who want to play for Rovers and ship out the dead legs, Come on you Blues!!![/p][/quote]I agree...he needs to ship out the dead legs but they have to be off the books - not just loaned out. Perhaps they should also get rid of Dunn, Pederson and Givet?? Pederson is allegedly on 50k a week so we need to get his wages off the balance sheet. I think for the good of the club, the fans need to know exactly who earns what!! It is important for the future of the club to have some transparency. We do not want to end up as another Portsmouth. Good to see Rhodes scoring twice tonight btw!![/p][/quote]Givet and Pederson both have the top level - big game experience that the squad and the team really needs. Both can still do a very good job for the Rovers at this level. To get rid of either this season would be a big mistake and I think Berg will know that. Agree about Rhodes, playing and scoring at International level will help him progress and help us also. The 8 million (which includes all the add-ons) is beginning to look like the steal of the season.[/p][/quote]Sorry FR have to disagree....Givet hasn't been the player he was since the suspicious money issues. Time for him to go I think!![/p][/quote]Nope - this young squad - and especially the defense - needs Givet's experience UNLESS they can bring in a more experienced and equally as good or better CH. As for the pantomime cast you mention.....well you read the blogs so maybe you can write the review Mr. D2I.....as I am far too decent a bloke to dish the dirt on my friendly fellow bloggers. French Rover
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8:32am Thu 15 Nov 12

BlueSkies says...

diamonds2india wrote:
Wow!! It's all gone quiet again. Pretty shameful "Harwood Blue"!! Do you not think?? Is it time for those involved to come clean to the FA authorities and police?
Ha ha, you're sounding suspiciously like Smelly!
[quote][p][bold]diamonds2india[/bold] wrote: Wow!! It's all gone quiet again. Pretty shameful "Harwood Blue"!! Do you not think?? Is it time for those involved to come clean to the FA authorities and police?[/p][/quote]Ha ha, you're sounding suspiciously like Smelly! BlueSkies
  • Score: -1

10:43am Thu 15 Nov 12

Stone Island: says...

whappen wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
ronnie clayton wrote: TRY READING www.colinhendrylies. com And you will find out what the Colin Hendry ,really thought about and said about Henning Berg . Hendry said and I quote " BERG IS A COWARD AND A GUTLESS NERVOUS WRECK". That is not heresay that is fact.
And what did berg say about the Venky's, just a few short months ago? Something along the lines of: 'No credible manager would accept the role' Now they are all on the gravy train, they all appear to be the best of buddies. Sickening, absolutely sickening.
You quote that from where / who, prat 2? One of the voices in your head or the pi$$head sitting in the corner at your local?

Oh and thanks for the link........yet again.
Here you are, clever t***.

http://www.dailymail
.co.uk/sport/footbal
l/article-2225768/He
nning-Berg-new-Black
burn-manager-despite
-dismissing-job-past
.html
[quote][p][bold]whappen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ronnie clayton[/bold] wrote: TRY READING www.colinhendrylies. com And you will find out what the Colin Hendry ,really thought about and said about Henning Berg . Hendry said and I quote " BERG IS A COWARD AND A GUTLESS NERVOUS WRECK". That is not heresay that is fact.[/p][/quote]And what did berg say about the Venky's, just a few short months ago? Something along the lines of: 'No credible manager would accept the role' Now they are all on the gravy train, they all appear to be the best of buddies. Sickening, absolutely sickening.[/p][/quote]You quote that from where / who, prat 2? One of the voices in your head or the pi$$head sitting in the corner at your local? Oh and thanks for the link........yet again.[/p][/quote]Here you are, clever t***. http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2225768/He nning-Berg-new-Black burn-manager-despite -dismissing-job-past .html Stone Island:
  • Score: 0

12:14pm Thu 15 Nov 12

stefjam says...

do we have cover at right back, no, do we have a left back, no, do we have about 20 midfielders, yes
do we have cover at right back, no, do we have a left back, no, do we have about 20 midfielders, yes stefjam
  • Score: 0

12:17pm Thu 15 Nov 12

greenscreener says...

Just Dennis wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
Just Dennis wrote: Watched Bill Eckersley throughout his Rovers and England career. Never once saw him play right back although he once played in goal when Harry Leyland was K.O'd during the pre match kick-in. Seeing him don Harry's jersey was hillarious as it was many sizes too big and the sleeves came down over Bill's hands.
Dennis, I take my hat off to you with respect sir, Eckersley retired about 50 years ago and played about 400 times for Rovers, so you must be the same generation as Jack Walker. Hope you are still going down to Ewood Park, most of your mates are probably in the Riverside !
Cheers Greenscreenner
Stood on the Riverside for decades with my mates several of whom have now joined Uncle Jack looking down from that Grandstand in the sky watching the sad events of the last two years.
Abandoned my season ticket seat in the JW Stand at the end of last season as a protest against the Venkys/Kean regime taking the club away from the supporters.
This has left a gap in my life as a lifelong Rovers supporter and I am fervently hoping for Venkys somehow to get the club back running along the right track and for Henning,who I always admired as a player, to prove successful.
Hope I will be returning soon to spend a few more happy years!
Dennis,

I did a bit of soul-searching myself before renewing for the last 2 seasons, and watching the early matches this season I was honestly starting to regret it. But the entertainment against Birmingham reminded me why Ewood Park is in my blood and I'm not going to let a bunch of idiots ruin it for me.

Find a pub to watch the match on Saturday, I hope and prey it will remind you that there's no better way to spend an afternoon.

Let us know what you decide.

Cheers.
[quote][p][bold]Just Dennis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Just Dennis[/bold] wrote: Watched Bill Eckersley throughout his Rovers and England career. Never once saw him play right back although he once played in goal when Harry Leyland was K.O'd during the pre match kick-in. Seeing him don Harry's jersey was hillarious as it was many sizes too big and the sleeves came down over Bill's hands.[/p][/quote]Dennis, I take my hat off to you with respect sir, Eckersley retired about 50 years ago and played about 400 times for Rovers, so you must be the same generation as Jack Walker. Hope you are still going down to Ewood Park, most of your mates are probably in the Riverside ![/p][/quote]Cheers Greenscreenner Stood on the Riverside for decades with my mates several of whom have now joined Uncle Jack looking down from that Grandstand in the sky watching the sad events of the last two years. Abandoned my season ticket seat in the JW Stand at the end of last season as a protest against the Venkys/Kean regime taking the club away from the supporters. This has left a gap in my life as a lifelong Rovers supporter and I am fervently hoping for Venkys somehow to get the club back running along the right track and for Henning,who I always admired as a player, to prove successful. Hope I will be returning soon to spend a few more happy years![/p][/quote]Dennis, I did a bit of soul-searching myself before renewing for the last 2 seasons, and watching the early matches this season I was honestly starting to regret it. But the entertainment against Birmingham reminded me why Ewood Park is in my blood and I'm not going to let a bunch of idiots ruin it for me. Find a pub to watch the match on Saturday, I hope and prey it will remind you that there's no better way to spend an afternoon. Let us know what you decide. Cheers. greenscreener
  • Score: 1

1:38pm Thu 15 Nov 12

Rovers 1495 says...

http://uk.eurosport.
yahoo.com/news/champ
ionship-orr-keen-sta
y-ipswich-112711117.
html

"I could be here longer than the loan date but it will be down to how well I do here and how much I can help the club"

See you in January then
http://uk.eurosport. yahoo.com/news/champ ionship-orr-keen-sta y-ipswich-112711117. html "I could be here longer than the loan date but it will be down to how well I do here and how much I can help the club" See you in January then Rovers 1495
  • Score: 1

3:49pm Thu 15 Nov 12

benal13 says...

Billypieman wrote:
Does this mean we are going to recall Myles Anderson? His impressive presence on the Aldershot bench has guided them to the lofty perch of 24th in League 2. Surely it's time got the "New Chris Smalling" to make a return.
watch it! remember many a true word spoken in jest
[quote][p][bold]Billypieman[/bold] wrote: Does this mean we are going to recall Myles Anderson? His impressive presence on the Aldershot bench has guided them to the lofty perch of 24th in League 2. Surely it's time got the "New Chris Smalling" to make a return.[/p][/quote]watch it! remember many a true word spoken in jest benal13
  • Score: 0

11:25pm Thu 15 Nov 12

diamonds2india says...

rovers82 wrote:
waiting for the first Berg's win and many more to come!
Endurance is your strong point is it??
[quote][p][bold]rovers82[/bold] wrote: waiting for the first Berg's win and many more to come![/p][/quote]Endurance is your strong point is it?? diamonds2india
  • Score: 0

6:03pm Fri 16 Nov 12

Just Dennis says...

greenscreener wrote:
Just Dennis wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
Just Dennis wrote: Watched Bill Eckersley throughout his Rovers and England career. Never once saw him play right back although he once played in goal when Harry Leyland was K.O'd during the pre match kick-in. Seeing him don Harry's jersey was hillarious as it was many sizes too big and the sleeves came down over Bill's hands.
Dennis, I take my hat off to you with respect sir, Eckersley retired about 50 years ago and played about 400 times for Rovers, so you must be the same generation as Jack Walker. Hope you are still going down to Ewood Park, most of your mates are probably in the Riverside !
Cheers Greenscreenner Stood on the Riverside for decades with my mates several of whom have now joined Uncle Jack looking down from that Grandstand in the sky watching the sad events of the last two years. Abandoned my season ticket seat in the JW Stand at the end of last season as a protest against the Venkys/Kean regime taking the club away from the supporters. This has left a gap in my life as a lifelong Rovers supporter and I am fervently hoping for Venkys somehow to get the club back running along the right track and for Henning,who I always admired as a player, to prove successful. Hope I will be returning soon to spend a few more happy years!
Dennis, I did a bit of soul-searching myself before renewing for the last 2 seasons, and watching the early matches this season I was honestly starting to regret it. But the entertainment against Birmingham reminded me why Ewood Park is in my blood and I'm not going to let a bunch of idiots ruin it for me. Find a pub to watch the match on Saturday, I hope and prey it will remind you that there's no better way to spend an afternoon. Let us know what you decide. Cheers.
Thanks for your suggestion Greenscreener but I can't bring myself to do it yet.
Maybe a combination of Christmas Spirit and decent results will help but the real problem to me is Venkys.
At least Shebby appears to have dried up since his "handling" of the managerial appointment and left Henning to do the talking although it would be nice to hear from Messrs Shaw & Agnew occasionally as I wonder what purpose they are serving
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Just Dennis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Just Dennis[/bold] wrote: Watched Bill Eckersley throughout his Rovers and England career. Never once saw him play right back although he once played in goal when Harry Leyland was K.O'd during the pre match kick-in. Seeing him don Harry's jersey was hillarious as it was many sizes too big and the sleeves came down over Bill's hands.[/p][/quote]Dennis, I take my hat off to you with respect sir, Eckersley retired about 50 years ago and played about 400 times for Rovers, so you must be the same generation as Jack Walker. Hope you are still going down to Ewood Park, most of your mates are probably in the Riverside ![/p][/quote]Cheers Greenscreenner Stood on the Riverside for decades with my mates several of whom have now joined Uncle Jack looking down from that Grandstand in the sky watching the sad events of the last two years. Abandoned my season ticket seat in the JW Stand at the end of last season as a protest against the Venkys/Kean regime taking the club away from the supporters. This has left a gap in my life as a lifelong Rovers supporter and I am fervently hoping for Venkys somehow to get the club back running along the right track and for Henning,who I always admired as a player, to prove successful. Hope I will be returning soon to spend a few more happy years![/p][/quote]Dennis, I did a bit of soul-searching myself before renewing for the last 2 seasons, and watching the early matches this season I was honestly starting to regret it. But the entertainment against Birmingham reminded me why Ewood Park is in my blood and I'm not going to let a bunch of idiots ruin it for me. Find a pub to watch the match on Saturday, I hope and prey it will remind you that there's no better way to spend an afternoon. Let us know what you decide. Cheers.[/p][/quote]Thanks for your suggestion Greenscreener but I can't bring myself to do it yet. Maybe a combination of Christmas Spirit and decent results will help but the real problem to me is Venkys. At least Shebby appears to have dried up since his "handling" of the managerial appointment and left Henning to do the talking although it would be nice to hear from Messrs Shaw & Agnew occasionally as I wonder what purpose they are serving Just Dennis
  • Score: 2

10:13am Sun 18 Nov 12

MatthewCA says...

ORR went with our defence lazy hub, see the result where he played his first match 6 - 0.
ORR went with our defence lazy hub, see the result where he played his first match 6 - 0. MatthewCA
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