Singh: Promotion is minimum expectation for Blackburn Rovers’ new boss

GLOBAL advisor Shebby Singh has thrown down the gauntlet to Blackburn Rovers’ new boss Henning Berg after warning he has to deliver an instant Premier League return.

The 43-year-old Norwegian was unveiled at a press conference yesterday, ahead of taking charge for tomorrow’s Championship trip to Crystal Palace, with the outspoken Singh leaving no one in any doubt as to what is expected of him.

Singh has promised Berg there will be funds available to strengthen Rovers’ promotion charge and believes the former defender is relishing the pressure piled on him.

Berg put pen to paper on a three-year deal on Tuesday evening and will assess his backroom staff over the coming days as he starts to plan for the future.

But Singh said: “Promotion is the minimum and the maximum.

“We have emphasised that time and again.

“But the most important thing is that Henning welcomes the pressure, he welcomes the challenge.

“He didn’t sit in front of us and say ‘I need three years to build a team or two seasons to get them promoted’. He said ‘I know what you want and I want to be the man to deliver that’.

“Financially we are on a par with every other club at this level, we all know going into the Premier League is very important.

“We would not like to be categorised as being a club in a dire situation or in dire straits – but we share the same pressure as every other club in the Championship.”

When asked what happened if promotion was not achieved, Singh replied: “I wish you hadn’t asked me that question. It’s too early.

“What we have now are two strong individuals who only think positively and only think of success.

“Now we want to put our resources together and make sure there are no ifs and buts. The targets are very clear between us.”

Singh has described Berg’s appoi-ntment as the start of a new chapter for the club, after recognising Rovers fans have suffered a miserable past couple of years.

Rovers fans have voiced their anger at Venky’s stewardship of the club, which has seen relegation from the Premier League and Steve Kean’s disastrous managerial tenure, but Singh hopes everyone can now focus on the future.

“Finally the (drawing of the) line is completed,” he said. “There’s a full stop. Today is a new chapter.

“For me it has been an experience. I have become everybody’s favourite punch bag, but so be it.

“What is important is that the club progresses. That’s the important thing. It’s not about the individual, it’s about the club.”

“When January comes and Henning says he needs to strengthen the squad, we will go out and get it for him.

“Whatever has happened has happened. Like I said, there’s a full stop at the end of the line and it’s a new chapter now. Henning is the man in charge.”

“What is very important now is to make sure that we try to foresee any problems that might crop up. Prevention is better than cure. I hope the cure has been completed and now we can look to preventing.

“I understand only too well the passion of the fans. I have had to bear the brunt of it over the last couple of weeks. But I have worked closely with the fans as well.

“Its been a learning experience. When you are thousands of miles away you understand the passion but it’s only when you get here and get among the fans that you realise they are the heart of the club.

“I’m happy the fans have been very supportive. Not everyone has the same level of patience – but slowly but surely we are getting it right.”

Comments (84)

9:57am Fri 2 Nov 12

peely says...

Oh no here we go again ! The man just can't keep it shut can he ?Why not just let Henning Berg get on with it and try and keep yourself out of the limelight, but no he just can't help himself! Out with the three stooges and the pension robber !
Oh no here we go again ! The man just can't keep it shut can he ?Why not just let Henning Berg get on with it and try and keep yourself out of the limelight, but no he just can't help himself! Out with the three stooges and the pension robber ! peely

9:57am Fri 2 Nov 12

Frisson says...

Who are the 2 people Shabba The Hut is referring to?
Who are the 2 people Shabba The Hut is referring to? Frisson

10:01am Fri 2 Nov 12

forever blue and white says...

Well he may not be everyones favourite but what he has done is

A. Helped in the process of getting rid of Kean

B. Getting a new manager that in fairness may not have been everyones first choice but at least Rovers fans can relate to the new manager and there is some experience there unlike the last plank that was in charge

Lets hope his choice is successful
Judging by the big majority of posts on this site over the last 24 hours Rovers fans are ready once more to support the manager and the team
Well done Shebby.
Those that do not agreewith me I dont want a torrent of abuse this is just my opinion
Well he may not be everyones favourite but what he has done is A. Helped in the process of getting rid of Kean B. Getting a new manager that in fairness may not have been everyones first choice but at least Rovers fans can relate to the new manager and there is some experience there unlike the last plank that was in charge Lets hope his choice is successful Judging by the big majority of posts on this site over the last 24 hours Rovers fans are ready once more to support the manager and the team Well done Shebby. Those that do not agreewith me I dont want a torrent of abuse this is just my opinion forever blue and white

10:03am Fri 2 Nov 12

Is Eckersley playing? says...

There can be no line drawn till the three Indians come to Ewood, go on the pitch with a mike and apologise to all the fans for their apalling behaviour over the past two years. THEN you can draw a line - not before!
There can be no line drawn till the three Indians come to Ewood, go on the pitch with a mike and apologise to all the fans for their apalling behaviour over the past two years. THEN you can draw a line - not before! Is Eckersley playing?

10:04am Fri 2 Nov 12

ashton_9 says...

Derek Shaw has also commented and threw in the rather honest assessment that Berg was far from first choice but despite pushing for someone a little more refined Shaw is happy with the final conclusion.

Shaw, Managing Director of the club added - 'No he wasn't our first choice, far from it - we're not hiding anything there.'

'We had one or two people that we talked to who, for whatever reason, got ruled in and ruled out.

'Henning contacted me personally probably seven or eight days after Steve left.'

'There is a gamble and I think it's become more or less common (knowledge) that I thought we probably wanted someone with experience at this level.

'But, without a doubt, I've no qualms with this appointment. I think he'll be wonderful for us.'


It's not only Shebby spouting off left right and centre taking all the limelight. There's absolutely no reason whatsoever to air these views publicly (especially these above from Shaw) , I just don't see what it achieves? I'm in full support of Berg and think he could be a very sound appointment.
Derek Shaw has also commented and threw in the rather honest assessment that Berg was far from first choice but despite pushing for someone a little more refined Shaw is happy with the final conclusion. Shaw, Managing Director of the club added - 'No he wasn't our first choice, far from it - we're not hiding anything there.' 'We had one or two people that we talked to who, for whatever reason, got ruled in and ruled out. 'Henning contacted me personally probably seven or eight days after Steve left.' 'There is a gamble and I think it's become more or less common (knowledge) that I thought we probably wanted someone with experience at this level. 'But, without a doubt, I've no qualms with this appointment. I think he'll be wonderful for us.' It's not only Shebby spouting off left right and centre taking all the limelight. There's absolutely no reason whatsoever to air these views publicly (especially these above from Shaw) , I just don't see what it achieves? I'm in full support of Berg and think he could be a very sound appointment. ashton_9

10:05am Fri 2 Nov 12

Rovers_Lad_123 says...

Frisson wrote:
Who are the 2 people Shabba The Hut is referring to?
Himself and Berg I believe.
[quote][p][bold]Frisson[/bold] wrote: Who are the 2 people Shabba The Hut is referring to?[/p][/quote]Himself and Berg I believe. Rovers_Lad_123

10:06am Fri 2 Nov 12

Lancs - pensioner says...

I decided to read this twice and if you do that old Shabby says Berg has the same ambition as himself, promotion, funds being promised, great news lets not take everything the wrong way, lets give HB a good start, hopefully with a point on Saturday then build the momentum up, if I can give them a chance then anyone can.

COYB
I decided to read this twice and if you do that old Shabby says Berg has the same ambition as himself, promotion, funds being promised, great news lets not take everything the wrong way, lets give HB a good start, hopefully with a point on Saturday then build the momentum up, if I can give them a chance then anyone can. COYB Lancs - pensioner

10:17am Fri 2 Nov 12

1952 rover says...

For God's sake Shebby he has not even trained with the team yet, and you are as per the norm with you MOUTH OPEN AND BRAIN IN NEUTRAL.Give it a rest, We have had enough of your talking.You do as the awful Venky,s tell you so try to kid us fan,s.
For God's sake Shebby he has not even trained with the team yet, and you are as per the norm with you MOUTH OPEN AND BRAIN IN NEUTRAL.Give it a rest, We have had enough of your talking.You do as the awful Venky,s tell you so try to kid us fan,s. 1952 rover

10:18am Fri 2 Nov 12

moh says...

forever blue and white wrote:
Well he may not be everyones favourite but what he has done is A. Helped in the process of getting rid of Kean B. Getting a new manager that in fairness may not have been everyones first choice but at least Rovers fans can relate to the new manager and there is some experience there unlike the last plank that was in charge Lets hope his choice is successful Judging by the big majority of posts on this site over the last 24 hours Rovers fans are ready once more to support the manager and the team Well done Shebby. Those that do not agreewith me I dont want a torrent of abuse this is just my opinion
You are absolutely right, since Shebby has arrived he won his duel with Kean who controlled everything. That was a major achievement. The signing of Etuhu, Rhodes etc which on this forum many ssaid would not happen but it did. Shebby has done well and all the best to him in his mission to get rovers back to premiership. Also he is communicating with fans like the meeting at KGH and through press which did not happen previously. Credit where it is due.
[quote][p][bold]forever blue and white[/bold] wrote: Well he may not be everyones favourite but what he has done is A. Helped in the process of getting rid of Kean B. Getting a new manager that in fairness may not have been everyones first choice but at least Rovers fans can relate to the new manager and there is some experience there unlike the last plank that was in charge Lets hope his choice is successful Judging by the big majority of posts on this site over the last 24 hours Rovers fans are ready once more to support the manager and the team Well done Shebby. Those that do not agreewith me I dont want a torrent of abuse this is just my opinion[/p][/quote]You are absolutely right, since Shebby has arrived he won his duel with Kean who controlled everything. That was a major achievement. The signing of Etuhu, Rhodes etc which on this forum many ssaid would not happen but it did. Shebby has done well and all the best to him in his mission to get rovers back to premiership. Also he is communicating with fans like the meeting at KGH and through press which did not happen previously. Credit where it is due. moh

10:20am Fri 2 Nov 12

chegwin says...

Can't wait for the Bunlea game now at Turdmo.,I think the Bunlea fan , ho quoes on here ever day everyday in his power rangers jimmy jams is gutted that we now have a proper manager who as won everything in the game.35 YEARS
Can't wait for the Bunlea game now at Turdmo.,I think the Bunlea fan , ho quoes on here ever day everyday in his power rangers jimmy jams is gutted that we now have a proper manager who as won everything in the game.35 YEARS chegwin

10:20am Fri 2 Nov 12

brown cow warrior says...

Frisson wrote:
Who are the 2 people Shabba The Hut is referring to?
Its pretty obvious that Shabby is going to be overseeing everything and involved in transfers and that Berg will probably be the junior partner in the duo. It certainly didn't take him long to issue a veiled threat regarding failure to win promotion did it??
[quote][p][bold]Frisson[/bold] wrote: Who are the 2 people Shabba The Hut is referring to?[/p][/quote]Its pretty obvious that Shabby is going to be overseeing everything and involved in transfers and that Berg will probably be the junior partner in the duo. It certainly didn't take him long to issue a veiled threat regarding failure to win promotion did it?? brown cow warrior

10:21am Fri 2 Nov 12

Arron1212 says...

HB has my backing lets get behind the team and win this league
HB has my backing lets get behind the team and win this league Arron1212

10:22am Fri 2 Nov 12

Only1Garner says...

ashton_9 wrote:
Derek Shaw has also commented and threw in the rather honest assessment that Berg was far from first choice but despite pushing for someone a little more refined Shaw is happy with the final conclusion.

Shaw, Managing Director of the club added - 'No he wasn't our first choice, far from it - we're not hiding anything there.'

'We had one or two people that we talked to who, for whatever reason, got ruled in and ruled out.

'Henning contacted me personally probably seven or eight days after Steve left.'

'There is a gamble and I think it's become more or less common (knowledge) that I thought we probably wanted someone with experience at this level.

'But, without a doubt, I've no qualms with this appointment. I think he'll be wonderful for us.'


It's not only Shebby spouting off left right and centre taking all the limelight. There's absolutely no reason whatsoever to air these views publicly (especially these above from Shaw) , I just don't see what it achieves? I'm in full support of Berg and think he could be a very sound appointment.
Whilst Shebby and Shaw should be a little more considered in what they say, at least they are talking to us, unlike the wall of silence we had for 18+ months with the exception of Billy B*llsh%t, my only question is what the hell is our communication guru Agnew upto, in his case the silence is deafening. What roll is he playing in the club, surely he should be organising the press releases and the media.
Lets hope this SAS is as sucessful as the last SAS we had at the club, somehow though I doubt it.
[quote][p][bold]ashton_9[/bold] wrote: Derek Shaw has also commented and threw in the rather honest assessment that Berg was far from first choice but despite pushing for someone a little more refined Shaw is happy with the final conclusion. Shaw, Managing Director of the club added - 'No he wasn't our first choice, far from it - we're not hiding anything there.' 'We had one or two people that we talked to who, for whatever reason, got ruled in and ruled out. 'Henning contacted me personally probably seven or eight days after Steve left.' 'There is a gamble and I think it's become more or less common (knowledge) that I thought we probably wanted someone with experience at this level. 'But, without a doubt, I've no qualms with this appointment. I think he'll be wonderful for us.' It's not only Shebby spouting off left right and centre taking all the limelight. There's absolutely no reason whatsoever to air these views publicly (especially these above from Shaw) , I just don't see what it achieves? I'm in full support of Berg and think he could be a very sound appointment.[/p][/quote]Whilst Shebby and Shaw should be a little more considered in what they say, at least they are talking to us, unlike the wall of silence we had for 18+ months with the exception of Billy B*llsh%t, my only question is what the hell is our communication guru Agnew upto, in his case the silence is deafening. What roll is he playing in the club, surely he should be organising the press releases and the media. Lets hope this SAS is as sucessful as the last SAS we had at the club, somehow though I doubt it. Only1Garner

10:24am Fri 2 Nov 12

Tatts says...

I'm trying not to be cynical, but it sounds like they've asked several candidates if they could deliver promotion this season and the first one who said yes got the job.
I'm trying not to be cynical, but it sounds like they've asked several candidates if they could deliver promotion this season and the first one who said yes got the job. Tatts

10:25am Fri 2 Nov 12

garyintandem says...

Well done Henning.
Shebby, shut up now please. You've done your job in getting rid of Kean and appointing someone wth Rovers in their blood as manager.
We don't want to hear from you again. Jyst fulfill your promise of deliverin the fuds t Henning to o his job ad the fans will respect you. If you keep interfering, you'll become a target if things don't go to plan immediately.
Welcome back Henning, rest assured tha the fans are behind you and we will have patience provided you bring some sanity, respectability and stability to the club.
Also, I totally agree with the idea of the Rao bros and even Mrs Desai walking onto Ewood and apologising for the utter shambles and destruction of the fabric of our club over the last 2 years.
Now please, no more bleating...let's get out in force against Brum and get 20,000 back to Ewood and turn it back into a Fortress.
Shebby and Shaw...I suggest you offer adults for a tenner, kids for a fiver for the next 2 home matches, start the half season tickets now and get Ewood full.
Let's show the world that we are totally behind Henning and give the players our full vocal support.
COTB, RTID
Well done Henning. Shebby, shut up now please. You've done your job in getting rid of Kean and appointing someone wth Rovers in their blood as manager. We don't want to hear from you again. Jyst fulfill your promise of deliverin the fuds t Henning to o his job ad the fans will respect you. If you keep interfering, you'll become a target if things don't go to plan immediately. Welcome back Henning, rest assured tha the fans are behind you and we will have patience provided you bring some sanity, respectability and stability to the club. Also, I totally agree with the idea of the Rao bros and even Mrs Desai walking onto Ewood and apologising for the utter shambles and destruction of the fabric of our club over the last 2 years. Now please, no more bleating...let's get out in force against Brum and get 20,000 back to Ewood and turn it back into a Fortress. Shebby and Shaw...I suggest you offer adults for a tenner, kids for a fiver for the next 2 home matches, start the half season tickets now and get Ewood full. Let's show the world that we are totally behind Henning and give the players our full vocal support. COTB, RTID garyintandem

10:40am Fri 2 Nov 12

roverfor60years says...

Welcome home Henning – and good luck. Keep a tight rein on team affairs and don’t tolerate any interference whatsoever. All the decisions must be yours. No exceptions.

One thing, though. Please grow your hair again – you look 100 times better.
Welcome home Henning – and good luck. Keep a tight rein on team affairs and don’t tolerate any interference whatsoever. All the decisions must be yours. No exceptions. One thing, though. Please grow your hair again – you look 100 times better. roverfor60years

10:43am Fri 2 Nov 12

simongarnerswindowcleaner says...

Football is littered with clubs that couldn't handle expectation, so ease off Shebby. It took us a second second season to go back up last time and at least we were ready for it (until Venkys came along of course to get us relegated).
But, hey, the omens are currently good...
Rovers' first game in the Premiership in '92 was away at Crystal Palace, when those of us who were there saw those two amazing Alan Shearer goals. Now there was a man who know how to be fearless in the face of pressure.
And new boss Henning Berg’s own debut was against Palace, too.
Berg was the coolest defender we’d had since Faz so fingers crossed he can instill some calm into our back line against a team in form.
His managerial record to date isn’t brilliant, but at least he’s up for the challenge whereas good old Bobby Charlton backed out when he realised it wasn’t for him.
Berg must have learned plenty from Messrs Dalglish, Ferguson and Souness so fingers crossed he can speak good Scottish-Norwegian in the dressing room.
As the first player to have won the Premiership with two different clubs, as the only member of Jack Walker’s Rovers to have won the Premiership and the League Cup, and as an international defender who scored every ten games while winning a ton of caps across two World Cups with a tiny nation, we must embrace him all the way.
Only Venkys chicken experts could give us a manager with a first name like Hen and a surname that’s half way to Burger. It's a perfect fit.
So lets hope the points are soon coming home to roost.
Up t’Rovers. And, altogether now: ‘Henning Berg’s chicken shack warriors!’
PS. Congratulations, Bryan Douglas. Well overdue. Now then, which part of the ground has been left to be named after Simon Garner?
Football is littered with clubs that couldn't handle expectation, so ease off Shebby. It took us a second second season to go back up last time and at least we were ready for it (until Venkys came along of course to get us relegated). But, hey, the omens are currently good... Rovers' first game in the Premiership in '92 was away at Crystal Palace, when those of us who were there saw those two amazing Alan Shearer goals. Now there was a man who know how to be fearless in the face of pressure. And new boss Henning Berg’s own debut was against Palace, too. Berg was the coolest defender we’d had since Faz so fingers crossed he can instill some calm into our back line against a team in form. His managerial record to date isn’t brilliant, but at least he’s up for the challenge whereas good old Bobby Charlton backed out when he realised it wasn’t for him. Berg must have learned plenty from Messrs Dalglish, Ferguson and Souness so fingers crossed he can speak good Scottish-Norwegian in the dressing room. As the first player to have won the Premiership with two different clubs, as the only member of Jack Walker’s Rovers to have won the Premiership and the League Cup, and as an international defender who scored every ten games while winning a ton of caps across two World Cups with a tiny nation, we must embrace him all the way. Only Venkys chicken experts could give us a manager with a first name like Hen and a surname that’s half way to Burger. It's a perfect fit. So lets hope the points are soon coming home to roost. Up t’Rovers. And, altogether now: ‘Henning Berg’s chicken shack warriors!’ PS. Congratulations, Bryan Douglas. Well overdue. Now then, which part of the ground has been left to be named after Simon Garner? simongarnerswindowcleaner

10:47am Fri 2 Nov 12

waggyonthewing says...

I think this is an excellent appointment,im sure henning will make us proud again.Iknow alot of supporters wanted "a name" someone with experience,it makes a refreshing change to see someone given a chance who hasnt been on and off the moneygoround,it makes me sick seeing the same old names banded about time after time,they,re all out there waiting to take another poor club to the cleaners,fail get a massive payoff and move on to the next set of mugs,well done Rovers and also well done bumley,bolton and Accy,good luck to you all except bumley of course,oh and bolton dont like them either.ha ha.
I think this is an excellent appointment,im sure henning will make us proud again.Iknow alot of supporters wanted "a name" someone with experience,it makes a refreshing change to see someone given a chance who hasnt been on and off the moneygoround,it makes me sick seeing the same old names banded about time after time,they,re all out there waiting to take another poor club to the cleaners,fail get a massive payoff and move on to the next set of mugs,well done Rovers and also well done bumley,bolton and Accy,good luck to you all except bumley of course,oh and bolton dont like them either.ha ha. waggyonthewing

10:48am Fri 2 Nov 12

Ray Gunn says...

i wish Henning Berg all the best...lets get our club right back where we belong...there's just one thing that is a bit hard to swallow and that is why Henning?...with rednap in the frame they elect to go for a manager with less experience....i hope this is not because the likes of rednap wouldnt take any S*it off the venkys and Henning may just roll over....C'MON U BLUES
i wish Henning Berg all the best...lets get our club right back where we belong...there's just one thing that is a bit hard to swallow and that is why Henning?...with rednap in the frame they elect to go for a manager with less experience....i hope this is not because the likes of rednap wouldnt take any S*it off the venkys and Henning may just roll over....C'MON U BLUES Ray Gunn

10:49am Fri 2 Nov 12

Brfc24138931 says...

I honestly dont think we will ever get over venkeys taking over. The themselves are totally to blame for the downfall of once a pride and well run club. That has gone and I never see coming back as the damage is unrepairable.
I honestly dont think we will ever get over venkeys taking over. The themselves are totally to blame for the downfall of once a pride and well run club. That has gone and I never see coming back as the damage is unrepairable. Brfc24138931

10:52am Fri 2 Nov 12

Miss-You-Uncle-Jack says...

Did anyone else read the transfer part of that, and take it as shebby will be bringing in the players he wants and not who Henning wants? I've read it twice now and still think that's what he's getting at? I can only pray Henning gets to pick his own players come January, but we'll cross that bridge when we need to I suppose. Onwards and upwards from here I hope but somehow shebby doesn't fill me with confidence!
Did anyone else read the transfer part of that, and take it as shebby will be bringing in the players he wants and not who Henning wants? I've read it twice now and still think that's what he's getting at? I can only pray Henning gets to pick his own players come January, but we'll cross that bridge when we need to I suppose. Onwards and upwards from here I hope but somehow shebby doesn't fill me with confidence! Miss-You-Uncle-Jack

10:54am Fri 2 Nov 12

greenscreener says...

I am determined to give Henning a chance but I don't envy him having to work with these buffoons.

Shebby, I thought you were brought in to be the Global Advisor to Venkys, not the god almighty. Do you tell Steve P how to cut the grass ?You should stick to explaining what's going on and whats needed to the indians, Berg does not need you talking to the press or interfering down at Brockhall.

Shaw, for someone who has said f'all since you arrived what possessed you to come out now and undermine your new manager with such indiscretion.

Agnew, its been said already, WTF are you doing as Communications Director, reading the papers out loud to Robert Coar ?

Good luck Henning, you will need it

BTW: Don't expect an apology of any kind from the owners, its a concept they don't understand.
I am determined to give Henning a chance but I don't envy him having to work with these buffoons. Shebby, I thought you were brought in to be the Global Advisor to Venkys, not the god almighty. Do you tell Steve P how to cut the grass ?You should stick to explaining what's going on and whats needed to the indians, Berg does not need you talking to the press or interfering down at Brockhall. Shaw, for someone who has said f'all since you arrived what possessed you to come out now and undermine your new manager with such indiscretion. Agnew, its been said already, WTF are you doing as Communications Director, reading the papers out loud to Robert Coar ? Good luck Henning, you will need it BTW: Don't expect an apology of any kind from the owners, its a concept they don't understand. greenscreener

11:01am Fri 2 Nov 12

handyamBRFC says...

Congratulations to Henning Berg, He was a true professional and lets hope he can again show his credentials and take us up where we belong.
Lets hope he can bring in a few players from his side of the world. a few players that can make the difference and take us back up.

Regards Venkeys, its about time true fans realized that the club has been in a state of transition and hopefully we have turned that corner.
Its pointless blaming everyone within the club.
Its now time to stick together and support the club, we need the fans, owners, management and players all together.

We know that we cant compete with the major clubs in England but we can get up there back in premiership and stay there where we belong.

By comparison with major clubs in England, BRFC are a small town club who have been elevated to the premier league due to Jack Walker and his money. Without him BRFC would be languishing in the lower leagues.
For the last 2 decades Blackburn have secured their status as a premier league club. They are an established club with ''Premier'' written all over. They deserve to be up there. Their record speaks for itself over the last 20 years....check the stats.....!!

Unfortunately, a few teams have to go down every year and this time round it was BRFC. But we will be back hopefully at the first attempt.
Fortunately, BRFC should be head and shoulders better than the others in the championship and should come up sooner rather than later. With the playing staff at their disposal it should be a formality.

We just need a few more solid players, like a left back, a right back, a fast winger and a central midfield general to boss the center and provide link up with the strikers.

Also..........
The problems did not start with Venkeys taking over, rather the issues were that the Walker family after ''Our Jack'' did not want to back BRFC in the manner that 'Our Jack Walker' did.
The demise began from when the family of Jack walker were not prepared to back BRFC in the manner that OUR Jack Walker would have expected.
The family had been secretly trying to sell BRFC secretly just after the death of Jack Walker....That's a disgrace.
The problems of BRFC started from that point on wards.
BRFC waited for many months / years to find some buyers but to no avail.
It seemed no one wanted to buy the club. Eventually Venkeys bought the club.
Actually BRFC were fortunate that Venkeys did buy as there did not seem to be any other interest at all.
BRFC had no choice as the family of Jack Walker wanted to get rid of the (BRFC) family jewels.

Hence, the real anger should be directed at the Walker family who let down 'Jack' and let down the fans and the club.
They did not care less about who they sold the club to as long as they got their money.
In fact, many offers did come from Americans and other Europeans but they were so low that the Walker family would have made massive losses.
The only reason they sold to the Indians was that the Venkeys were New to this game, didn't know anything and extremely naive.
The walker family rubbed their hands in glee when Venkeys made such a silly offer as to satisfy their financial demands.

Where was the anger then.....when the Walker family were selling out getting rid of this club, your and our club and 'Jacks'
They let us down and have now run away.....!!!

We need to get used to the idea that foreigners own our football clubs,
If the people of Blackburn were so interested why did we not come up with a plan for the club together with the Jack Walker foundation and family.
Unfortunately, the Walker family were not interested in selling to the people as they would have not got much money from the people of Blackburn. They would have been lucky to get a penny.

And the Walker family sold as they knew it was time to stop bank rolling BRFC and get as much as they possibly could , which they did and have now disappeared. away from BRFC.

We now have owners who are investing and hopefully will continue to do so, we all need to get together and act as one voice and for sure we will achieve what we all want.

so that's what we should all remember at BRFC.

Finally, Real football fans are those who stick through Good and bad times.
I ask ...you BRFC supporters...Are you a real BRFC fan...???
You can’t always be winners
And compared to some premier teams we are really small but good enough to get into and stay in premiership

Let’s be positive and get on with our job as supporters

Let’s get behind the team and playing staff and BRFC

And this should lead us to GLORY and the premiership.....SIMP
LE
Congratulations to Henning Berg, He was a true professional and lets hope he can again show his credentials and take us up where we belong. Lets hope he can bring in a few players from his side of the world. a few players that can make the difference and take us back up. Regards Venkeys, its about time true fans realized that the club has been in a state of transition and hopefully we have turned that corner. Its pointless blaming everyone within the club. Its now time to stick together and support the club, we need the fans, owners, management and players all together. We know that we cant compete with the major clubs in England but we can get up there back in premiership and stay there where we belong. By comparison with major clubs in England, BRFC are a small town club who have been elevated to the premier league due to Jack Walker and his money. Without him BRFC would be languishing in the lower leagues. For the last 2 decades Blackburn have secured their status as a premier league club. They are an established club with ''Premier'' written all over. They deserve to be up there. Their record speaks for itself over the last 20 years....check the stats.....!! Unfortunately, a few teams have to go down every year and this time round it was BRFC. But we will be back hopefully at the first attempt. Fortunately, BRFC should be head and shoulders better than the others in the championship and should come up sooner rather than later. With the playing staff at their disposal it should be a formality. We just need a few more solid players, like a left back, a right back, a fast winger and a central midfield general to boss the center and provide link up with the strikers. Also.......... The problems did not start with Venkeys taking over, rather the issues were that the Walker family after ''Our Jack'' did not want to back BRFC in the manner that 'Our Jack Walker' did. The demise began from when the family of Jack walker were not prepared to back BRFC in the manner that OUR Jack Walker would have expected. The family had been secretly trying to sell BRFC secretly just after the death of Jack Walker....That's a disgrace. The problems of BRFC started from that point on wards. BRFC waited for many months / years to find some buyers but to no avail. It seemed no one wanted to buy the club. Eventually Venkeys bought the club. Actually BRFC were fortunate that Venkeys did buy as there did not seem to be any other interest at all. BRFC had no choice as the family of Jack Walker wanted to get rid of the (BRFC) family jewels. Hence, the real anger should be directed at the Walker family who let down 'Jack' and let down the fans and the club. They did not care less about who they sold the club to as long as they got their money. In fact, many offers did come from Americans and other Europeans but they were so low that the Walker family would have made massive losses. The only reason they sold to the Indians was that the Venkeys were New to this game, didn't know anything and extremely naive. The walker family rubbed their hands in glee when Venkeys made such a silly offer as to satisfy their financial demands. Where was the anger then.....when the Walker family were selling out getting rid of this club, your and our club and 'Jacks' They let us down and have now run away.....!!! We need to get used to the idea that foreigners own our football clubs, If the people of Blackburn were so interested why did we not come up with a plan for the club together with the Jack Walker foundation and family. Unfortunately, the Walker family were not interested in selling to the people as they would have not got much money from the people of Blackburn. They would have been lucky to get a penny. And the Walker family sold as they knew it was time to stop bank rolling BRFC and get as much as they possibly could , which they did and have now disappeared. away from BRFC. We now have owners who are investing and hopefully will continue to do so, we all need to get together and act as one voice and for sure we will achieve what we all want. so that's what we should all remember at BRFC. Finally, Real football fans are those who stick through Good and bad times. I ask ...you BRFC supporters...Are you a real BRFC fan...??? You can’t always be winners And compared to some premier teams we are really small but good enough to get into and stay in premiership Let’s be positive and get on with our job as supporters Let’s get behind the team and playing staff and BRFC And this should lead us to GLORY and the premiership.....SIMP LE handyamBRFC

11:04am Fri 2 Nov 12

A Darener says...

Let's rename the Blues bar to "Garner's" after all he liked a pint.
Well done to renaming the Darwen End. Dougie must be chuffed to bits.
As for Shebby he is making the right noises now let him put his words into action. Get a short list of players to bring in in January and tell the Venky's to get their hands in their pocket.
Let's rename the Blues bar to "Garner's" after all he liked a pint. Well done to renaming the Darwen End. Dougie must be chuffed to bits. As for Shebby he is making the right noises now let him put his words into action. Get a short list of players to bring in in January and tell the Venky's to get their hands in their pocket. A Darener

11:22am Fri 2 Nov 12

inflightmagazine says...

roverfor60years wrote:
Welcome home Henning – and good luck. Keep a tight rein on team affairs and don’t tolerate any interference whatsoever. All the decisions must be yours. No exceptions. One thing, though. Please grow your hair again – you look 100 times better.
Talk about pressure , shebby wants promotion and you want him to cure baldness , let the lad get to his desk LOL,


Totally agree , lets see Henning do it his way.
[quote][p][bold]roverfor60years[/bold] wrote: Welcome home Henning – and good luck. Keep a tight rein on team affairs and don’t tolerate any interference whatsoever. All the decisions must be yours. No exceptions. One thing, though. Please grow your hair again – you look 100 times better.[/p][/quote]Talk about pressure , shebby wants promotion and you want him to cure baldness , let the lad get to his desk LOL, Totally agree , lets see Henning do it his way. inflightmagazine

11:26am Fri 2 Nov 12

inflightmagazine says...

Brfc24138931 wrote:
I honestly dont think we will ever get over venkeys taking over. The themselves are totally to blame for the downfall of once a pride and well run club. That has gone and I never see coming back as the damage is unrepairable.
Got to take sligth umberage with this , who sold them the club and who left it with £20 million debt, there are others in the previous regieme that should shoulder some of this.

Anyway time to move on , my tardis is broken so I can`t change the past , good luck Henning. See you on the 10th
[quote][p][bold]Brfc24138931[/bold] wrote: I honestly dont think we will ever get over venkeys taking over. The themselves are totally to blame for the downfall of once a pride and well run club. That has gone and I never see coming back as the damage is unrepairable.[/p][/quote]Got to take sligth umberage with this , who sold them the club and who left it with £20 million debt, there are others in the previous regieme that should shoulder some of this. Anyway time to move on , my tardis is broken so I can`t change the past , good luck Henning. See you on the 10th inflightmagazine

11:27am Fri 2 Nov 12

A Rover 45 years and over says...

This is a joke, if it is so important to get promotion why has Shebby Singh spent many weeks trying to sign someone who had never managed before and then when he does get someone with experience they have no track record of success Then he demands promotion from these people. The way Shebby has handled this stuation does not cover him in glory and he has lost all my respect after this. He has shown that he is not fit to be in his position in my eyes.. Anyway time will tell and I will still support my club..
This is a joke, if it is so important to get promotion why has Shebby Singh spent many weeks trying to sign someone who had never managed before and then when he does get someone with experience they have no track record of success Then he demands promotion from these people. The way Shebby has handled this stuation does not cover him in glory and he has lost all my respect after this. He has shown that he is not fit to be in his position in my eyes.. Anyway time will tell and I will still support my club.. A Rover 45 years and over

11:32am Fri 2 Nov 12

inflightmagazine says...

Miss-You-Uncle-Jack wrote:
Did anyone else read the transfer part of that, and take it as shebby will be bringing in the players he wants and not who Henning wants? I've read it twice now and still think that's what he's getting at? I can only pray Henning gets to pick his own players come January, but we'll cross that bridge when we need to I suppose. Onwards and upwards from here I hope but somehow shebby doesn't fill me with confidence!
“When January comes and Henning says he needs to strengthen the squad, we will go out and get it for him"

I read this as Henning says who he wants and we go and strike the deal, which is normal in football. Might be wrong, but I am not reading anything else into it
[quote][p][bold]Miss-You-Uncle-Jack[/bold] wrote: Did anyone else read the transfer part of that, and take it as shebby will be bringing in the players he wants and not who Henning wants? I've read it twice now and still think that's what he's getting at? I can only pray Henning gets to pick his own players come January, but we'll cross that bridge when we need to I suppose. Onwards and upwards from here I hope but somehow shebby doesn't fill me with confidence![/p][/quote]“When January comes and Henning says he needs to strengthen the squad, we will go out and get it for him" I read this as Henning says who he wants and we go and strike the deal, which is normal in football. Might be wrong, but I am not reading anything else into it inflightmagazine

11:36am Fri 2 Nov 12

Gaz M says...

So Shebby he must deliver promotion and nothing less , and if he does not Shebby what then? you sack him and we start the whole debacle again!. I would suggest that if that was to happen you yourself should walk away as you are as much to be held responsible for promotion as Henning, for in your own words" we have two strong individuals who only think positively and only think of success" if youi are asking the fans to all pull together then together we must all be we sink or swim together that includes you Shebby no lifebelts given wanted!!
So Shebby he must deliver promotion and nothing less , and if he does not Shebby what then? you sack him and we start the whole debacle again!. I would suggest that if that was to happen you yourself should walk away as you are as much to be held responsible for promotion as Henning, for in your own words" we have two strong individuals who only think positively and only think of success" if youi are asking the fans to all pull together then together we must all be we sink or swim together that includes you Shebby no lifebelts given wanted!! Gaz M

11:44am Fri 2 Nov 12

Dukes says...

Berg knows if he fails or half way in season things are not looking good he will be gone, I lead to believe the club can sack him its says it in his contract.
Berg knows if he fails or half way in season things are not looking good he will be gone, I lead to believe the club can sack him its says it in his contract. Dukes

11:50am Fri 2 Nov 12

roverfor60years says...

Shebby describes this as a new chapter for the club. It will only be a new chapter if Henning is allowed to do his job with no interference.

But does Shebby speak with forked tongue? He says: “When January comes and Henning says he needs to strengthen the squad, we will go out and get it for him.”

What does that mean? I hope it means Henning WILL be allowed to identify his OWN targets – and unload the players HE no longer requires.

Funds prevailing, Shebby and Co. must go out and buy the players Henning wants – not a barrowload of players dumped in his lap he neither knows nor wants.
Shebby describes this as a new chapter for the club. It will only be a new chapter if Henning is allowed to do his job with no interference. But does Shebby speak with forked tongue? He says: “When January comes and Henning says he needs to strengthen the squad, we will go out and get it for him.” What does that mean? I hope it means Henning WILL be allowed to identify his OWN targets – and unload the players HE no longer requires. Funds prevailing, Shebby and Co. must go out and buy the players Henning wants – not a barrowload of players dumped in his lap he neither knows nor wants. roverfor60years

11:59am Fri 2 Nov 12

nil bye mouth says...

Venkys you have done us proud again .
Venkys you have done us proud again . nil bye mouth

11:59am Fri 2 Nov 12

Navy-Rover says...

20 yrs ago I went to Rovers first Premiership game away at Selhurst Park. Really looking forward to going with the kids tomorrow to welcome Henning Berg back to Rovers, just hope the score isn't the same as it was back in 92, cos we were robbed!
No Shearer to bang in a couple for us now but I'm sure young Rhodes can step up to the plate!

COYB!!!
20 yrs ago I went to Rovers first Premiership game away at Selhurst Park. Really looking forward to going with the kids tomorrow to welcome Henning Berg back to Rovers, just hope the score isn't the same as it was back in 92, cos we were robbed! No Shearer to bang in a couple for us now but I'm sure young Rhodes can step up to the plate! COYB!!! Navy-Rover

12:01pm Fri 2 Nov 12

roverfor60years says...

inflightmagazine wrote:
roverfor60years wrote:
Welcome home Henning – and good luck. Keep a tight rein on team affairs and don’t tolerate any interference whatsoever. All the decisions must be yours. No exceptions. One thing, though. Please grow your hair again – you look 100 times better.
Talk about pressure , shebby wants promotion and you want him to cure baldness , let the lad get to his desk LOL,


Totally agree , lets see Henning do it his way.
Ha-ha. Tongue in cheek. But I don't want anything to remind me of that bald-headed weasel we have finally got rid of.
[quote][p][bold]inflightmagazine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roverfor60years[/bold] wrote: Welcome home Henning – and good luck. Keep a tight rein on team affairs and don’t tolerate any interference whatsoever. All the decisions must be yours. No exceptions. One thing, though. Please grow your hair again – you look 100 times better.[/p][/quote]Talk about pressure , shebby wants promotion and you want him to cure baldness , let the lad get to his desk LOL, Totally agree , lets see Henning do it his way.[/p][/quote]Ha-ha. Tongue in cheek. But I don't want anything to remind me of that bald-headed weasel we have finally got rid of. roverfor60years

12:02pm Fri 2 Nov 12

inflightmagazine says...

To be honest I am expecting promotion too this year, so I am totally alright with this, the great clubs in this world set expectations and go a deliver on them.

Most people would say the squad we had last year could have stayed up but for the total tactical shambles delivered by Mr Kean, and judging by the protest the blame for this was felt to be mainly with him. He has now gone.

We have lost only two major players from that squad and brought in :-

Jordan Rhodes
Nuno Gomes
Dickson Ethu
Danny Murphy ( appreciate not playing well)
Leon Best

and a raft of portuguese fellas, given these additions and the fact that despite not setting the world on fire we are in fifth position 5 points behind the leaders, I cannot see any reason to believe that a good man manager with a plan could not get this team promoted.
To be honest I am expecting promotion too this year, so I am totally alright with this, the great clubs in this world set expectations and go a deliver on them. Most people would say the squad we had last year could have stayed up but for the total tactical shambles delivered by Mr Kean, and judging by the protest the blame for this was felt to be mainly with him. He has now gone. We have lost only two major players from that squad and brought in :- Jordan Rhodes Nuno Gomes Dickson Ethu Danny Murphy ( appreciate not playing well) Leon Best and a raft of portuguese fellas, given these additions and the fact that despite not setting the world on fire we are in fifth position 5 points behind the leaders, I cannot see any reason to believe that a good man manager with a plan could not get this team promoted. inflightmagazine

12:03pm Fri 2 Nov 12

BRFC0808 says...

Is Eckersley playing? wrote:
There can be no line drawn till the three Indians come to Ewood, go on the pitch with a mike and apologise to all the fans for their apalling behaviour over the past two years. THEN you can draw a line - not before!
Thats never gonna happen and there is no need for it....
Has any Arab or American owners done so ?or all the owners have won the Championships?
Have u ever apologised to anyone b4 pegging for it!!!
[quote][p][bold]Is Eckersley playing?[/bold] wrote: There can be no line drawn till the three Indians come to Ewood, go on the pitch with a mike and apologise to all the fans for their apalling behaviour over the past two years. THEN you can draw a line - not before![/p][/quote]Thats never gonna happen and there is no need for it.... Has any Arab or American owners done so ?or all the owners have won the Championships? Have u ever apologised to anyone b4 pegging for it!!! BRFC0808

12:05pm Fri 2 Nov 12

leonm987 says...

Dukes wrote:
Berg knows if he fails or half way in season things are not looking good he will be gone, I lead to believe the club can sack him its says it in his contract.
How do you know what it says in his contract? Gt behind the man for god's sake.
[quote][p][bold]Dukes[/bold] wrote: Berg knows if he fails or half way in season things are not looking good he will be gone, I lead to believe the club can sack him its says it in his contract.[/p][/quote]How do you know what it says in his contract? Gt behind the man for god's sake. leonm987

12:06pm Fri 2 Nov 12

1riversider says...

A word of advice to Shebby and the other Stooges - put brain in gear before engaging mouth!
Before he's even got his his feet under the table, both Shebby and Shaw are undermining him. It really is pathetic, just how incompetent this shower are!

To Handyman who goes on about the Walker Trust, please get your facts right. They made no secret of the fact that the club was up for sale for years, and in 2007 actually wrote off 80million in redeemable shares, i.e. a loan, into ordinary shares, thus ensuring the club was in effect debt free for sale.

None of the above however, excuses what has happened since the current owners have been involved.

SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB NOW
A word of advice to Shebby and the other Stooges - put brain in gear before engaging mouth! Before he's even got his his feet under the table, both Shebby and Shaw are undermining him. It really is pathetic, just how incompetent this shower are! To Handyman who goes on about the Walker Trust, please get your facts right. They made no secret of the fact that the club was up for sale for years, and in 2007 actually wrote off 80million in redeemable shares, i.e. a loan, into ordinary shares, thus ensuring the club was in effect debt free for sale. None of the above however, excuses what has happened since the current owners have been involved. SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB NOW 1riversider

12:26pm Fri 2 Nov 12

Navy-Rover says...

leonm987 wrote:
Dukes wrote:
Berg knows if he fails or half way in season things are not looking good he will be gone, I lead to believe the club can sack him its says it in his contract.
How do you know what it says in his contract? Gt behind the man for god's sake.
My sentiments exactly! I'm sure the only people who know the contents of Henning's contract are:

Henning himself
Henning's immediate family
Henning's agent
Shebby
The Rovers Board
The chicken farmers

I may have missed a couple more but needless to say any 'Joe Public' who reads the LT and posts on here are highly unlikely to be privy to this info.

Lets just be Rovers supporters, get behind the team and stop pretending that we have 'inside info' or 'my mate knows Shebby's shoe polisher' rubbish!
[quote][p][bold]leonm987[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dukes[/bold] wrote: Berg knows if he fails or half way in season things are not looking good he will be gone, I lead to believe the club can sack him its says it in his contract.[/p][/quote]How do you know what it says in his contract? Gt behind the man for god's sake.[/p][/quote]My sentiments exactly! I'm sure the only people who know the contents of Henning's contract are: Henning himself Henning's immediate family Henning's agent Shebby The Rovers Board The chicken farmers I may have missed a couple more but needless to say any 'Joe Public' who reads the LT and posts on here are highly unlikely to be privy to this info. Lets just be Rovers supporters, get behind the team and stop pretending that we have 'inside info' or 'my mate knows Shebby's shoe polisher' rubbish! Navy-Rover

12:30pm Fri 2 Nov 12

glp says...

Welcome Back to Blackburn Henning pity it was not you here 2 years ago then maybe club would not be in such a mess. Please get rid of all the useless coaching staff they are just Venkys yes men. Need some guys who actually know how to train footballers and get them fit and know what positions to play them in. Will keep my fingers crossed that this is Venkys finally getting their act together.
Welcome Back to Blackburn Henning pity it was not you here 2 years ago then maybe club would not be in such a mess. Please get rid of all the useless coaching staff they are just Venkys yes men. Need some guys who actually know how to train footballers and get them fit and know what positions to play them in. Will keep my fingers crossed that this is Venkys finally getting their act together. glp

12:34pm Fri 2 Nov 12

skelbo says...

Good luck to Henning but i for one think this is a shocking appointment and just proves we have been taken for a ride again, with all these so called top managers interested and then we get Henning c'mon something aint right AGAIN!! I hope it goes well but i wont be turning up at ewood or giving Venky's any of my money by jan we'll be another sk situation really hope i'm wrong but cant see this working out at all but hey everyone is allowed to share there views and this is mine
Good luck to Henning but i for one think this is a shocking appointment and just proves we have been taken for a ride again, with all these so called top managers interested and then we get Henning c'mon something aint right AGAIN!! I hope it goes well but i wont be turning up at ewood or giving Venky's any of my money by jan we'll be another sk situation really hope i'm wrong but cant see this working out at all but hey everyone is allowed to share there views and this is mine skelbo

12:34pm Fri 2 Nov 12

Arte1875 says...

nil bye mouth wrote:
Venkys you have done us proud again .
Yeah, i think you might be right this time Nil. One of your better comments - see, stay on the BRFC site for long enough and you become a Rover! Mind you, I'd rather have 13,000 on Ewood than one Burnley turncoat, so looks like you're stuck in the middle - turning away from Dick van Dyche yet not welcome here - you're jammed up the chim chimney without a sweep!
[quote][p][bold]nil bye mouth[/bold] wrote: Venkys you have done us proud again .[/p][/quote]Yeah, i think you might be right this time Nil. One of your better comments - see, stay on the BRFC site for long enough and you become a Rover! Mind you, I'd rather have 13,000 on Ewood than one Burnley turncoat, so looks like you're stuck in the middle - turning away from Dick van Dyche yet not welcome here - you're jammed up the chim chimney without a sweep! Arte1875

12:38pm Fri 2 Nov 12

Harwoodstblue says...

Gaz M wrote:
So Shebby he must deliver promotion and nothing less , and if he does not Shebby what then? you sack him and we start the whole debacle again!. I would suggest that if that was to happen you yourself should walk away as you are as much to be held responsible for promotion as Henning, for in your own words" we have two strong individuals who only think positively and only think of success" if youi are asking the fans to all pull together then together we must all be we sink or swim together that includes you Shebby no lifebelts given wanted!!
Positive thinking is no guarantee of success Shebby. May I remind you of a certain Steve Kean..........
[quote][p][bold]Gaz M[/bold] wrote: So Shebby he must deliver promotion and nothing less , and if he does not Shebby what then? you sack him and we start the whole debacle again!. I would suggest that if that was to happen you yourself should walk away as you are as much to be held responsible for promotion as Henning, for in your own words" we have two strong individuals who only think positively and only think of success" if youi are asking the fans to all pull together then together we must all be we sink or swim together that includes you Shebby no lifebelts given wanted!![/p][/quote]Positive thinking is no guarantee of success Shebby. May I remind you of a certain Steve Kean.......... Harwoodstblue

12:39pm Fri 2 Nov 12

Angry From Accrington says...

Shebby, the snake, Singh, makes a fool of himself, and our club, every time he opens his mouth and pokes out his forked tongue.
If Henning Berg has to deliver promotion this season, why was he given a three year contract? Why not a nine month one with an option to extend?

Can someone please, please tell me who is actually running this club. What are the respective roles of Singh, Shaw, Agnew etc.
Can we please have an open Forum at the club when these individuals, together with the new manager and perhaps, the owners themselves, sit in front of us to listen to our views and answer the questions that need answering before the open wounds can start to heal.
Shebby, the snake, Singh, makes a fool of himself, and our club, every time he opens his mouth and pokes out his forked tongue. If Henning Berg has to deliver promotion this season, why was he given a three year contract? Why not a nine month one with an option to extend? Can someone please, please tell me who is actually running this club. What are the respective roles of Singh, Shaw, Agnew etc. Can we please have an open Forum at the club when these individuals, together with the new manager and perhaps, the owners themselves, sit in front of us to listen to our views and answer the questions that need answering before the open wounds can start to heal. Angry From Accrington

12:40pm Fri 2 Nov 12

inflightmagazine says...

1riversider wrote:
A word of advice to Shebby and the other Stooges - put brain in gear before engaging mouth! Before he's even got his his feet under the table, both Shebby and Shaw are undermining him. It really is pathetic, just how incompetent this shower are! To Handyman who goes on about the Walker Trust, please get your facts right. They made no secret of the fact that the club was up for sale for years, and in 2007 actually wrote off 80million in redeemable shares, i.e. a loan, into ordinary shares, thus ensuring the club was in effect debt free for sale. None of the above however, excuses what has happened since the current owners have been involved. SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB NOW
agree its no excuse, but i dont quite get the effectively debt free comment , what was the £20 million owed to Barclays and the loan I understand was from the walker trust, so effecively they paid back a loan they had given themselves.
[quote][p][bold]1riversider[/bold] wrote: A word of advice to Shebby and the other Stooges - put brain in gear before engaging mouth! Before he's even got his his feet under the table, both Shebby and Shaw are undermining him. It really is pathetic, just how incompetent this shower are! To Handyman who goes on about the Walker Trust, please get your facts right. They made no secret of the fact that the club was up for sale for years, and in 2007 actually wrote off 80million in redeemable shares, i.e. a loan, into ordinary shares, thus ensuring the club was in effect debt free for sale. None of the above however, excuses what has happened since the current owners have been involved. SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB NOW[/p][/quote]agree its no excuse, but i dont quite get the effectively debt free comment , what was the £20 million owed to Barclays and the loan I understand was from the walker trust, so effecively they paid back a loan they had given themselves. inflightmagazine

12:44pm Fri 2 Nov 12

bburnrover says...

Shebby is more worried about his own position if we dont go up.I realise that over the last 30 years everyone has to have targets and this creates pressure
and stress,I am sure we the fans can get beind Henning as he knows like the rest of us what the problems have been and will obviously realise we still require more options in defence and a winger to make things happen between midfield and attack.
Shebby is more worried about his own position if we dont go up.I realise that over the last 30 years everyone has to have targets and this creates pressure and stress,I am sure we the fans can get beind Henning as he knows like the rest of us what the problems have been and will obviously realise we still require more options in defence and a winger to make things happen between midfield and attack. bburnrover

12:50pm Fri 2 Nov 12

1riversider says...

inflightmagazine wrote:
1riversider wrote:
A word of advice to Shebby and the other Stooges - put brain in gear before engaging mouth! Before he's even got his his feet under the table, both Shebby and Shaw are undermining him. It really is pathetic, just how incompetent this shower are! To Handyman who goes on about the Walker Trust, please get your facts right. They made no secret of the fact that the club was up for sale for years, and in 2007 actually wrote off 80million in redeemable shares, i.e. a loan, into ordinary shares, thus ensuring the club was in effect debt free for sale. None of the above however, excuses what has happened since the current owners have been involved. SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB NOW
agree its no excuse, but i dont quite get the effectively debt free comment , what was the £20 million owed to Barclays and the loan I understand was from the walker trust, so effecively they paid back a loan they had given themselves.
In effect, Jack did not give the money to Rovers, some of it, i.e. the 80million in redeemable shares, was a loan, which the club was expected to pay back at some point in time - don't forget, Jack always expected the club to become self financing, after his initial input. The debt that Venky's paid off was actually the accumulated running losses over a number of years.

Anyway, back to the present, LET'S ALL GET BEHIND HENNING, AND FOLLOW THE ROVERS BACK TO THE PREMIERSHIP

COME ON YOU BLUES!!!!
[quote][p][bold]inflightmagazine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1riversider[/bold] wrote: A word of advice to Shebby and the other Stooges - put brain in gear before engaging mouth! Before he's even got his his feet under the table, both Shebby and Shaw are undermining him. It really is pathetic, just how incompetent this shower are! To Handyman who goes on about the Walker Trust, please get your facts right. They made no secret of the fact that the club was up for sale for years, and in 2007 actually wrote off 80million in redeemable shares, i.e. a loan, into ordinary shares, thus ensuring the club was in effect debt free for sale. None of the above however, excuses what has happened since the current owners have been involved. SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB NOW[/p][/quote]agree its no excuse, but i dont quite get the effectively debt free comment , what was the £20 million owed to Barclays and the loan I understand was from the walker trust, so effecively they paid back a loan they had given themselves.[/p][/quote]In effect, Jack did not give the money to Rovers, some of it, i.e. the 80million in redeemable shares, was a loan, which the club was expected to pay back at some point in time - don't forget, Jack always expected the club to become self financing, after his initial input. The debt that Venky's paid off was actually the accumulated running losses over a number of years. Anyway, back to the present, LET'S ALL GET BEHIND HENNING, AND FOLLOW THE ROVERS BACK TO THE PREMIERSHIP COME ON YOU BLUES!!!! 1riversider

1:02pm Fri 2 Nov 12

inflightmagazine says...

1riversider wrote:
inflightmagazine wrote:
1riversider wrote: A word of advice to Shebby and the other Stooges - put brain in gear before engaging mouth! Before he's even got his his feet under the table, both Shebby and Shaw are undermining him. It really is pathetic, just how incompetent this shower are! To Handyman who goes on about the Walker Trust, please get your facts right. They made no secret of the fact that the club was up for sale for years, and in 2007 actually wrote off 80million in redeemable shares, i.e. a loan, into ordinary shares, thus ensuring the club was in effect debt free for sale. None of the above however, excuses what has happened since the current owners have been involved. SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB NOW
agree its no excuse, but i dont quite get the effectively debt free comment , what was the £20 million owed to Barclays and the loan I understand was from the walker trust, so effecively they paid back a loan they had given themselves.
In effect, Jack did not give the money to Rovers, some of it, i.e. the 80million in redeemable shares, was a loan, which the club was expected to pay back at some point in time - don't forget, Jack always expected the club to become self financing, after his initial input. The debt that Venky's paid off was actually the accumulated running losses over a number of years. Anyway, back to the present, LET'S ALL GET BEHIND HENNING, AND FOLLOW THE ROVERS BACK TO THE PREMIERSHIP COME ON YOU BLUES!!!!
Totally agree us fans inrecent times we have voiced our concerns for the club and although very slowly and some what late, some of these concerns seem to be getting through and changes have occurred, wether we all agree with the appointment and have faith the owners can deliver, this club is a different matter, but having now got rid of Steve Kean and appointed our most decorated player in recent years to the managers position, we have to show the positive side of the Blackburn rovers Fan base, we are some of the best and most loyal fans in the country for a town population of 100,000 to have been putting over 20,000 into seats is amazing, Birmingham cant do that with over a million living their. Lets here the Rovers roar again.
[quote][p][bold]1riversider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inflightmagazine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1riversider[/bold] wrote: A word of advice to Shebby and the other Stooges - put brain in gear before engaging mouth! Before he's even got his his feet under the table, both Shebby and Shaw are undermining him. It really is pathetic, just how incompetent this shower are! To Handyman who goes on about the Walker Trust, please get your facts right. They made no secret of the fact that the club was up for sale for years, and in 2007 actually wrote off 80million in redeemable shares, i.e. a loan, into ordinary shares, thus ensuring the club was in effect debt free for sale. None of the above however, excuses what has happened since the current owners have been involved. SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB NOW[/p][/quote]agree its no excuse, but i dont quite get the effectively debt free comment , what was the £20 million owed to Barclays and the loan I understand was from the walker trust, so effecively they paid back a loan they had given themselves.[/p][/quote]In effect, Jack did not give the money to Rovers, some of it, i.e. the 80million in redeemable shares, was a loan, which the club was expected to pay back at some point in time - don't forget, Jack always expected the club to become self financing, after his initial input. The debt that Venky's paid off was actually the accumulated running losses over a number of years. Anyway, back to the present, LET'S ALL GET BEHIND HENNING, AND FOLLOW THE ROVERS BACK TO THE PREMIERSHIP COME ON YOU BLUES!!!![/p][/quote]Totally agree us fans inrecent times we have voiced our concerns for the club and although very slowly and some what late, some of these concerns seem to be getting through and changes have occurred, wether we all agree with the appointment and have faith the owners can deliver, this club is a different matter, but having now got rid of Steve Kean and appointed our most decorated player in recent years to the managers position, we have to show the positive side of the Blackburn rovers Fan base, we are some of the best and most loyal fans in the country for a town population of 100,000 to have been putting over 20,000 into seats is amazing, Birmingham cant do that with over a million living their. Lets here the Rovers roar again. inflightmagazine

1:02pm Fri 2 Nov 12

zenoufthebirdcatcher says...

Let's all just get behind Henning and the boys. We are in a good position in the league, lying nice and handy. Three points at Palace would be a great start followed by another three against Brum. Can't wait.
Let's all just get behind Henning and the boys. We are in a good position in the league, lying nice and handy. Three points at Palace would be a great start followed by another three against Brum. Can't wait. zenoufthebirdcatcher

1:20pm Fri 2 Nov 12

Abu dabi says...

OH MY GOD! The mans a lunatic! and deluded people of Blackburn are still believing the garbage coming out of Venkys mouthpiece. Rovers will not get promoted nor get anywhere near the play offs. The chicken farmers are living in cuckoo land whilst Shaw a former PNE Chairman talks about the great ROVERS who once were. Get real folks! Berg should be ashamed for selling himself so cheaply. Total and utter C%^p!
OH MY GOD! The mans a lunatic! and deluded people of Blackburn are still believing the garbage coming out of Venkys mouthpiece. Rovers will not get promoted nor get anywhere near the play offs. The chicken farmers are living in cuckoo land whilst Shaw a former PNE Chairman talks about the great ROVERS who once were. Get real folks! Berg should be ashamed for selling himself so cheaply. Total and utter C%^p! Abu dabi

1:22pm Fri 2 Nov 12

inflightmagazine says...

Abu dabi wrote:
OH MY GOD! The mans a lunatic! and deluded people of Blackburn are still believing the garbage coming out of Venkys mouthpiece. Rovers will not get promoted nor get anywhere near the play offs. The chicken farmers are living in cuckoo land whilst Shaw a former PNE Chairman talks about the great ROVERS who once were. Get real folks! Berg should be ashamed for selling himself so cheaply. Total and utter C%^p!
you really are the most boring inane individual
[quote][p][bold]Abu dabi[/bold] wrote: OH MY GOD! The mans a lunatic! and deluded people of Blackburn are still believing the garbage coming out of Venkys mouthpiece. Rovers will not get promoted nor get anywhere near the play offs. The chicken farmers are living in cuckoo land whilst Shaw a former PNE Chairman talks about the great ROVERS who once were. Get real folks! Berg should be ashamed for selling himself so cheaply. Total and utter C%^p![/p][/quote]you really are the most boring inane individual inflightmagazine

1:25pm Fri 2 Nov 12

Bryan Douglas supporter says...

Shebby, please shut up and let actions and results do the talking. You are supposed to be the Club's "Global Advisor" (whatever that means). Do your job - advise the club or should that be Mrs. S.

Question for Shebby and the rest. Why did SK keep having to go and meet with the owners (Mrs. D) in India? Nothing reported that you have made a trip there. Have they found out about video conferencing or Skype, or are they just not bothered. Hope Berg isn't summoned to India on a regular basis; still SK is probably using up his Air Miles as we speak.

Yes, come on HB deliver the goods but Shebby let the guy get started first.
Shebby, please shut up and let actions and results do the talking. You are supposed to be the Club's "Global Advisor" (whatever that means). Do your job - advise the club or should that be Mrs. S. Question for Shebby and the rest. Why did SK keep having to go and meet with the owners (Mrs. D) in India? Nothing reported that you have made a trip there. Have they found out about video conferencing or Skype, or are they just not bothered. Hope Berg isn't summoned to India on a regular basis; still SK is probably using up his Air Miles as we speak. Yes, come on HB deliver the goods but Shebby let the guy get started first. Bryan Douglas supporter

1:34pm Fri 2 Nov 12

A Darener says...

Who is this Abu Dabi? Just turned up on this site spouting complete garbage! It is about time ALL so called Rovers fans stopped this continual negativity and looked forward. Tomorrow onwards is the future. Just back Henning and give him a chance to show what he can do.
Who is this Abu Dabi? Just turned up on this site spouting complete garbage! It is about time ALL so called Rovers fans stopped this continual negativity and looked forward. Tomorrow onwards is the future. Just back Henning and give him a chance to show what he can do. A Darener

1:42pm Fri 2 Nov 12

inflightmagazine says...

A Darener wrote:
Who is this Abu Dabi? Just turned up on this site spouting complete garbage! It is about time ALL so called Rovers fans stopped this continual negativity and looked forward. Tomorrow onwards is the future. Just back Henning and give him a chance to show what he can do.
Clues in the name A Bu -rnley D -*** A-nd B-latentley I-nterbred.
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Who is this Abu Dabi? Just turned up on this site spouting complete garbage! It is about time ALL so called Rovers fans stopped this continual negativity and looked forward. Tomorrow onwards is the future. Just back Henning and give him a chance to show what he can do.[/p][/quote]Clues in the name A Bu -rnley D -*** A-nd B-latentley I-nterbred. inflightmagazine

1:56pm Fri 2 Nov 12

Abu dabi says...

Just goes to show the level of intelligence left in the deluded fans left chasing shadows. Will Rovers go up! NO NEVER NO MORE! Theres only one Jack Walker! One Jack Walker! You can have your Venkys!Shaggy! Shebby! Agnew! Shaw etc........
Just goes to show the level of intelligence left in the deluded fans left chasing shadows. Will Rovers go up! NO NEVER NO MORE! Theres only one Jack Walker! One Jack Walker! You can have your Venkys!Shaggy! Shebby! Agnew! Shaw etc........ Abu dabi

2:02pm Fri 2 Nov 12

Harwoodstblue says...

Abu dabi wrote:
Just goes to show the level of intelligence left in the deluded fans left chasing shadows. Will Rovers go up! NO NEVER NO MORE! Theres only one Jack Walker! One Jack Walker! You can have your Venkys!Shaggy! Shebby! Agnew! Shaw etc........
Ignore him, he'll go away.
[quote][p][bold]Abu dabi[/bold] wrote: Just goes to show the level of intelligence left in the deluded fans left chasing shadows. Will Rovers go up! NO NEVER NO MORE! Theres only one Jack Walker! One Jack Walker! You can have your Venkys!Shaggy! Shebby! Agnew! Shaw etc........[/p][/quote]Ignore him, he'll go away. Harwoodstblue

2:02pm Fri 2 Nov 12

MxMave says...

WEILD THE AXE IF WE LOOSE TOMMORROW SHEBBAY!
WEILD THE AXE IF WE LOOSE TOMMORROW SHEBBAY! MxMave

2:04pm Fri 2 Nov 12

BRFC0808 says...

REVEALED::::
Abudhabi Is STEVE KEAN .
REVEALED:::: Abudhabi Is STEVE KEAN . BRFC0808

2:20pm Fri 2 Nov 12

greenscreener says...

Abu dabi wrote:
OH MY GOD! The mans a lunatic! and deluded people of Blackburn are still believing the garbage coming out of Venkys mouthpiece. Rovers will not get promoted nor get anywhere near the play offs. The chicken farmers are living in cuckoo land whilst Shaw a former PNE Chairman talks about the great ROVERS who once were. Get real folks! Berg should be ashamed for selling himself so cheaply. Total and utter C%^p!
Finally lost patience
Usually quite polite
Can you give it a rest mate
Know you are a dingle

Obviously not very bright
Fans of Rovers understand
Families like yours are just too close.
[quote][p][bold]Abu dabi[/bold] wrote: OH MY GOD! The mans a lunatic! and deluded people of Blackburn are still believing the garbage coming out of Venkys mouthpiece. Rovers will not get promoted nor get anywhere near the play offs. The chicken farmers are living in cuckoo land whilst Shaw a former PNE Chairman talks about the great ROVERS who once were. Get real folks! Berg should be ashamed for selling himself so cheaply. Total and utter C%^p![/p][/quote]Finally lost patience Usually quite polite Can you give it a rest mate Know you are a dingle Obviously not very bright Fans of Rovers understand Families like yours are just too close. greenscreener

2:20pm Fri 2 Nov 12

Miss-You-Uncle-Jack says...

inflightmagazine wrote:
Miss-You-Uncle-Jack wrote: Did anyone else read the transfer part of that, and take it as shebby will be bringing in the players he wants and not who Henning wants? I've read it twice now and still think that's what he's getting at? I can only pray Henning gets to pick his own players come January, but we'll cross that bridge when we need to I suppose. Onwards and upwards from here I hope but somehow shebby doesn't fill me with confidence!
“When January comes and Henning says he needs to strengthen the squad, we will go out and get it for him" I read this as Henning says who he wants and we go and strike the deal, which is normal in football. Might be wrong, but I am not reading anything else into it
I hope you're right! Really don't want to be cynical but find it very hard to trust what comes out of his mouth!
[quote][p][bold]inflightmagazine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Miss-You-Uncle-Jack[/bold] wrote: Did anyone else read the transfer part of that, and take it as shebby will be bringing in the players he wants and not who Henning wants? I've read it twice now and still think that's what he's getting at? I can only pray Henning gets to pick his own players come January, but we'll cross that bridge when we need to I suppose. Onwards and upwards from here I hope but somehow shebby doesn't fill me with confidence![/p][/quote]“When January comes and Henning says he needs to strengthen the squad, we will go out and get it for him" I read this as Henning says who he wants and we go and strike the deal, which is normal in football. Might be wrong, but I am not reading anything else into it[/p][/quote]I hope you're right! Really don't want to be cynical but find it very hard to trust what comes out of his mouth! Miss-You-Uncle-Jack

2:22pm Fri 2 Nov 12

blueblooded says...

nil bye mouth wrote:
Venkys you have done us proud again .
Doesn't the Dyke get you as excited?
[quote][p][bold]nil bye mouth[/bold] wrote: Venkys you have done us proud again .[/p][/quote]Doesn't the Dyke get you as excited? blueblooded

2:23pm Fri 2 Nov 12

blueblooded says...

nil bye mouth wrote:
Venkys you have done us proud again .
Doesn't the Dyke get you as excited?
[quote][p][bold]nil bye mouth[/bold] wrote: Venkys you have done us proud again .[/p][/quote]Doesn't the Dyke get you as excited? blueblooded

2:24pm Fri 2 Nov 12

blueblooded says...

Abu dabi wrote:
Just goes to show the level of intelligence left in the deluded fans left chasing shadows. Will Rovers go up! NO NEVER NO MORE! Theres only one Jack Walker! One Jack Walker! You can have your Venkys!Shaggy! Shebby! Agnew! Shaw etc........
fine.

So go support Bumley/
[quote][p][bold]Abu dabi[/bold] wrote: Just goes to show the level of intelligence left in the deluded fans left chasing shadows. Will Rovers go up! NO NEVER NO MORE! Theres only one Jack Walker! One Jack Walker! You can have your Venkys!Shaggy! Shebby! Agnew! Shaw etc........[/p][/quote]fine. So go support Bumley/ blueblooded

2:36pm Fri 2 Nov 12

inflightmagazine says...

Miss-You-Uncle-Jack wrote:
inflightmagazine wrote:
Miss-You-Uncle-Jack wrote: Did anyone else read the transfer part of that, and take it as shebby will be bringing in the players he wants and not who Henning wants? I've read it twice now and still think that's what he's getting at? I can only pray Henning gets to pick his own players come January, but we'll cross that bridge when we need to I suppose. Onwards and upwards from here I hope but somehow shebby doesn't fill me with confidence!
“When January comes and Henning says he needs to strengthen the squad, we will go out and get it for him" I read this as Henning says who he wants and we go and strike the deal, which is normal in football. Might be wrong, but I am not reading anything else into it
I hope you're right! Really don't want to be cynical but find it very hard to trust what comes out of his mouth!
I know what you mean and totally understand , this last two years as a fan of Blackburn have been really tough and I just want to get back to having a good laugh on saturdays with my lads and enjoying a bit of footie, maybe I am looking for the positives but had enough of always seeing the down side.

Roaring Henning on next Saturday.
[quote][p][bold]Miss-You-Uncle-Jack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inflightmagazine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Miss-You-Uncle-Jack[/bold] wrote: Did anyone else read the transfer part of that, and take it as shebby will be bringing in the players he wants and not who Henning wants? I've read it twice now and still think that's what he's getting at? I can only pray Henning gets to pick his own players come January, but we'll cross that bridge when we need to I suppose. Onwards and upwards from here I hope but somehow shebby doesn't fill me with confidence![/p][/quote]“When January comes and Henning says he needs to strengthen the squad, we will go out and get it for him" I read this as Henning says who he wants and we go and strike the deal, which is normal in football. Might be wrong, but I am not reading anything else into it[/p][/quote]I hope you're right! Really don't want to be cynical but find it very hard to trust what comes out of his mouth![/p][/quote]I know what you mean and totally understand , this last two years as a fan of Blackburn have been really tough and I just want to get back to having a good laugh on saturdays with my lads and enjoying a bit of footie, maybe I am looking for the positives but had enough of always seeing the down side. Roaring Henning on next Saturday. inflightmagazine

2:37pm Fri 2 Nov 12

Gaz M says...

nil bye mouth wrote:
Venkys you have done us proud again .
nil bye brain!
[quote][p][bold]nil bye mouth[/bold] wrote: Venkys you have done us proud again .[/p][/quote]nil bye brain! Gaz M

2:38pm Fri 2 Nov 12

BlueSkies says...

MxMave wrote:
WEILD THE AXE IF WE LOOSE TOMMORROW SHEBBAY!
Moron.

Oh, and buy a dictionary.
[quote][p][bold]MxMave[/bold] wrote: WEILD THE AXE IF WE LOOSE TOMMORROW SHEBBAY![/p][/quote]Moron. Oh, and buy a dictionary. BlueSkies

2:56pm Fri 2 Nov 12

stick to football says...

Question to ask Shebby asap

Having taken so long to choose the right Manager - will you accept responsibility and resign forthwith if promotion is not achieved

Whats right for others must be right for you - agreed?

If not you will attract the criticism you deserve every word so dont expect to be loved by Rovers supporters if all you are going to do - is mouth off and accept no reesponsibility
Question to ask Shebby asap Having taken so long to choose the right Manager - will you accept responsibility and resign forthwith if promotion is not achieved Whats right for others must be right for you - agreed? If not you will attract the criticism you deserve every word so dont expect to be loved by Rovers supporters if all you are going to do - is mouth off and accept no reesponsibility stick to football

3:03pm Fri 2 Nov 12

thresholdweller says...

I don't like the name calling, but now that we have a new manager, can we let him do the talking, unless he wants somebody else to communicate. In this case, he will say to the person concerned, the message that he wants to communicate.
Many supporters trust Henning Berg in a way that they do not trust others. He does not need to earn trust or respect - he already has it. Shebby, Paul Agnew, Derek Shaw and the Venkys may yet earn that respect yet, but for some it may take a long time.
I don't like the name calling, but now that we have a new manager, can we let him do the talking, unless he wants somebody else to communicate. In this case, he will say to the person concerned, the message that he wants to communicate. Many supporters trust Henning Berg in a way that they do not trust others. He does not need to earn trust or respect - he already has it. Shebby, Paul Agnew, Derek Shaw and the Venkys may yet earn that respect yet, but for some it may take a long time. thresholdweller

3:37pm Fri 2 Nov 12

jack denials says...

I don’t know why you sacked Kean because at least he was KEEN on getting back into the premiership.

With Henning Berg joining the helm of the Blackburn Rovers battle for the promotion to the Premiership , everything is going to go down when your ship hits the Ice BERG.....lol
I don’t know why you sacked Kean because at least he was KEEN on getting back into the premiership. With Henning Berg joining the helm of the Blackburn Rovers battle for the promotion to the Premiership , everything is going to go down when your ship hits the Ice BERG.....lol jack denials

3:45pm Fri 2 Nov 12

A Darener says...

jack denials wrote:
I don’t know why you sacked Kean because at least he was KEEN on getting back into the premiership.

With Henning Berg joining the helm of the Blackburn Rovers battle for the promotion to the Premiership , everything is going to go down when your ship hits the Ice BERG.....lol
We did not sack Kean! He jumped before he was pushed. Get your facts right. Ships are sunk by icebergs so our iceBERG will sink all the other teams and end up in the PL. lol!
[quote][p][bold]jack denials[/bold] wrote: I don’t know why you sacked Kean because at least he was KEEN on getting back into the premiership. With Henning Berg joining the helm of the Blackburn Rovers battle for the promotion to the Premiership , everything is going to go down when your ship hits the Ice BERG.....lol[/p][/quote]We did not sack Kean! He jumped before he was pushed. Get your facts right. Ships are sunk by icebergs so our iceBERG will sink all the other teams and end up in the PL. lol! A Darener

3:46pm Fri 2 Nov 12

McClaret says...

Give the man a chance! It's a team put together by a previous manager and he's only just walked through the door. Who is this man Shebby? Clealry clueless about football and embarassing for Rovers.
Give the man a chance! It's a team put together by a previous manager and he's only just walked through the door. Who is this man Shebby? Clealry clueless about football and embarassing for Rovers. McClaret

4:16pm Fri 2 Nov 12

moh says...

Miss-You-Uncle-Jack wrote:
inflightmagazine wrote:
Miss-You-Uncle-Jack wrote: Did anyone else read the transfer part of that, and take it as shebby will be bringing in the players he wants and not who Henning wants? I've read it twice now and still think that's what he's getting at? I can only pray Henning gets to pick his own players come January, but we'll cross that bridge when we need to I suppose. Onwards and upwards from here I hope but somehow shebby doesn't fill me with confidence!
“When January comes and Henning says he needs to strengthen the squad, we will go out and get it for him" I read this as Henning says who he wants and we go and strike the deal, which is normal in football. Might be wrong, but I am not reading anything else into it
I hope you're right! Really don't want to be cynical but find it very hard to trust what comes out of his mouth!
Many clubs even city have a policy whereby the manager identifies the position and players and others at club get players from that list, nothing new.
[quote][p][bold]Miss-You-Uncle-Jack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inflightmagazine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Miss-You-Uncle-Jack[/bold] wrote: Did anyone else read the transfer part of that, and take it as shebby will be bringing in the players he wants and not who Henning wants? I've read it twice now and still think that's what he's getting at? I can only pray Henning gets to pick his own players come January, but we'll cross that bridge when we need to I suppose. Onwards and upwards from here I hope but somehow shebby doesn't fill me with confidence![/p][/quote]“When January comes and Henning says he needs to strengthen the squad, we will go out and get it for him" I read this as Henning says who he wants and we go and strike the deal, which is normal in football. Might be wrong, but I am not reading anything else into it[/p][/quote]I hope you're right! Really don't want to be cynical but find it very hard to trust what comes out of his mouth![/p][/quote]Many clubs even city have a policy whereby the manager identifies the position and players and others at club get players from that list, nothing new. moh

6:28pm Fri 2 Nov 12

JPainter90 says...

I'm sure Henning knows promotion is what we need. Singh, back off and let him get the job done instead of having to deal with your drivel day in day out. Maybe, just maybe then we will get what we all want.
I'm sure Henning knows promotion is what we need. Singh, back off and let him get the job done instead of having to deal with your drivel day in day out. Maybe, just maybe then we will get what we all want. JPainter90

6:48pm Fri 2 Nov 12

whappen says...

ashton_9 wrote:
Derek Shaw has also commented and threw in the rather honest assessment that Berg was far from first choice but despite pushing for someone a little more refined Shaw is happy with the final conclusion. Shaw, Managing Director of the club added - 'No he wasn't our first choice, far from it - we're not hiding anything there.' 'We had one or two people that we talked to who, for whatever reason, got ruled in and ruled out. 'Henning contacted me personally probably seven or eight days after Steve left.' 'There is a gamble and I think it's become more or less common (knowledge) that I thought we probably wanted someone with experience at this level. 'But, without a doubt, I've no qualms with this appointment. I think he'll be wonderful for us.' It's not only Shebby spouting off left right and centre taking all the limelight. There's absolutely no reason whatsoever to air these views publicly (especially these above from Shaw) , I just don't see what it achieves? I'm in full support of Berg and think he could be a very sound appointment.
Chr!st, we couldn't get a peep out of them before now we can't shut the f@ckers up. Singh and Shaw's comments continue to show what an amateurish bunch we have supposedly looking after this club.

Like I've said before, HB has to overcome the Kean legacy. No one can jump on his back after 5, 10 or 30 games. We have to accept, including you Mr Singh, the owners refusal to give Kean the hook in the Summer may cost them and us dear.

If we don't get promoted, Singh you heejut, it will be your bosses' fault, not the new manager's. Now shut the f@ck up and let him get on with his job.

You're a football pundit turned p!ss poor PR man; accept it and let one of the few people around the club who may just know what they are doing do it.

In the meantime, think before you speak; better still, don't bother speaking at all. And if Shaw's not happy with the appointment then tell him to keep his thoughts to himself.

Shaw's indifference and Singh's pure stupidity are doing nothing but dampen any positive feelings I may have had.

There is still a long, long, long way to go.

Still, at least it's weekend.....
[quote][p][bold]ashton_9[/bold] wrote: Derek Shaw has also commented and threw in the rather honest assessment that Berg was far from first choice but despite pushing for someone a little more refined Shaw is happy with the final conclusion. Shaw, Managing Director of the club added - 'No he wasn't our first choice, far from it - we're not hiding anything there.' 'We had one or two people that we talked to who, for whatever reason, got ruled in and ruled out. 'Henning contacted me personally probably seven or eight days after Steve left.' 'There is a gamble and I think it's become more or less common (knowledge) that I thought we probably wanted someone with experience at this level. 'But, without a doubt, I've no qualms with this appointment. I think he'll be wonderful for us.' It's not only Shebby spouting off left right and centre taking all the limelight. There's absolutely no reason whatsoever to air these views publicly (especially these above from Shaw) , I just don't see what it achieves? I'm in full support of Berg and think he could be a very sound appointment.[/p][/quote]Chr!st, we couldn't get a peep out of them before now we can't shut the f@ckers up. Singh and Shaw's comments continue to show what an amateurish bunch we have supposedly looking after this club. Like I've said before, HB has to overcome the Kean legacy. No one can jump on his back after 5, 10 or 30 games. We have to accept, including you Mr Singh, the owners refusal to give Kean the hook in the Summer may cost them and us dear. If we don't get promoted, Singh you heejut, it will be your bosses' fault, not the new manager's. Now shut the f@ck up and let him get on with his job. You're a football pundit turned p!ss poor PR man; accept it and let one of the few people around the club who may just know what they are doing do it. In the meantime, think before you speak; better still, don't bother speaking at all. And if Shaw's not happy with the appointment then tell him to keep his thoughts to himself. Shaw's indifference and Singh's pure stupidity are doing nothing but dampen any positive feelings I may have had. There is still a long, long, long way to go. Still, at least it's weekend..... whappen

7:00pm Fri 2 Nov 12

whappen says...

1riversider wrote:
inflightmagazine wrote:
1riversider wrote: A word of advice to Shebby and the other Stooges - put brain in gear before engaging mouth! Before he's even got his his feet under the table, both Shebby and Shaw are undermining him. It really is pathetic, just how incompetent this shower are! To Handyman who goes on about the Walker Trust, please get your facts right. They made no secret of the fact that the club was up for sale for years, and in 2007 actually wrote off 80million in redeemable shares, i.e. a loan, into ordinary shares, thus ensuring the club was in effect debt free for sale. None of the above however, excuses what has happened since the current owners have been involved. SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB NOW
agree its no excuse, but i dont quite get the effectively debt free comment , what was the £20 million owed to Barclays and the loan I understand was from the walker trust, so effecively they paid back a loan they had given themselves.
In effect, Jack did not give the money to Rovers, some of it, i.e. the 80million in redeemable shares, was a loan, which the club was expected to pay back at some point in time - don't forget, Jack always expected the club to become self financing, after his initial input. The debt that Venky's paid off was actually the accumulated running losses over a number of years. Anyway, back to the present, LET'S ALL GET BEHIND HENNING, AND FOLLOW THE ROVERS BACK TO THE PREMIERSHIP COME ON YOU BLUES!!!!
They're always treated as loans, it's a tax thing. Bolton would seem up to their eyeballs in debt but it's mostly to their benefactor.

As I understood it, Jack Walker (RIP) switched the loan into shares to firstly get rid of the debt. It also stopped those same tax issues arising if he had just said he didn't want the money back.
[quote][p][bold]1riversider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inflightmagazine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1riversider[/bold] wrote: A word of advice to Shebby and the other Stooges - put brain in gear before engaging mouth! Before he's even got his his feet under the table, both Shebby and Shaw are undermining him. It really is pathetic, just how incompetent this shower are! To Handyman who goes on about the Walker Trust, please get your facts right. They made no secret of the fact that the club was up for sale for years, and in 2007 actually wrote off 80million in redeemable shares, i.e. a loan, into ordinary shares, thus ensuring the club was in effect debt free for sale. None of the above however, excuses what has happened since the current owners have been involved. SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB NOW[/p][/quote]agree its no excuse, but i dont quite get the effectively debt free comment , what was the £20 million owed to Barclays and the loan I understand was from the walker trust, so effecively they paid back a loan they had given themselves.[/p][/quote]In effect, Jack did not give the money to Rovers, some of it, i.e. the 80million in redeemable shares, was a loan, which the club was expected to pay back at some point in time - don't forget, Jack always expected the club to become self financing, after his initial input. The debt that Venky's paid off was actually the accumulated running losses over a number of years. Anyway, back to the present, LET'S ALL GET BEHIND HENNING, AND FOLLOW THE ROVERS BACK TO THE PREMIERSHIP COME ON YOU BLUES!!!![/p][/quote]They're always treated as loans, it's a tax thing. Bolton would seem up to their eyeballs in debt but it's mostly to their benefactor. As I understood it, Jack Walker (RIP) switched the loan into shares to firstly get rid of the debt. It also stopped those same tax issues arising if he had just said he didn't want the money back. whappen

7:10pm Fri 2 Nov 12

whappen says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
Shebby, the snake, Singh, makes a fool of himself, and our club, every time he opens his mouth and pokes out his forked tongue. If Henning Berg has to deliver promotion this season, why was he given a three year contract? Why not a nine month one with an option to extend? Can someone please, please tell me who is actually running this club. What are the respective roles of Singh, Shaw, Agnew etc. Can we please have an open Forum at the club when these individuals, together with the new manager and perhaps, the owners themselves, sit in front of us to listen to our views and answer the questions that need answering before the open wounds can start to heal.
Their roles?

Respectively;

PR(ick), caretaker and errrr, let me get back to you on that one.
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: Shebby, the snake, Singh, makes a fool of himself, and our club, every time he opens his mouth and pokes out his forked tongue. If Henning Berg has to deliver promotion this season, why was he given a three year contract? Why not a nine month one with an option to extend? Can someone please, please tell me who is actually running this club. What are the respective roles of Singh, Shaw, Agnew etc. Can we please have an open Forum at the club when these individuals, together with the new manager and perhaps, the owners themselves, sit in front of us to listen to our views and answer the questions that need answering before the open wounds can start to heal.[/p][/quote]Their roles? Respectively; PR(ick), caretaker and errrr, let me get back to you on that one. whappen

7:22pm Fri 2 Nov 12

GameRoverMan says...

The best way to shut the doubters up, Henning, is to win at Palace tomorrow. I know you have only had a few days with the squad but first impressions count.
The best way to shut the doubters up, Henning, is to win at Palace tomorrow. I know you have only had a few days with the squad but first impressions count. GameRoverMan

7:47pm Fri 2 Nov 12

kenbro says...

"Berg has to get us promoted this season". That is a very tall order considering the playing staff that we already have on contracts and which he inherits . Half the roster are marginal for the Championship and we have very few that are true Premiership quality.
Even if Berg is allowed to buy a few good players in January and manages to get us promoted, staying up will be very difficult.
Having said that, let's get behind Berg and the team. That's all we have at the moment. Unfortunately, we are stuck with Venkys and their management, but perhaps Venkys are finally realising what it takes to run an English football club.
"Berg has to get us promoted this season". That is a very tall order considering the playing staff that we already have on contracts and which he inherits . Half the roster are marginal for the Championship and we have very few that are true Premiership quality. Even if Berg is allowed to buy a few good players in January [that remains to be seen] and manages to get us promoted, staying up will be very difficult. Having said that, let's get behind Berg and the team. That's all we have at the moment. Unfortunately, we are stuck with Venkys and their management, but perhaps Venkys are finally realising what it takes to run an English football club. kenbro

8:19pm Fri 2 Nov 12

Accy Phil says...

Its a poor league, promotion is expected full stop!
Its a poor league, promotion is expected full stop! Accy Phil

10:03pm Fri 2 Nov 12

whappen says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
Shebby, the snake, Singh, makes a fool of himself, and our club, every time he opens his mouth and pokes out his forked tongue. If Henning Berg has to deliver promotion this season, why was he given a three year contract? Why not a nine month one with an option to extend? Can someone please, please tell me who is actually running this club. What are the respective roles of Singh, Shaw, Agnew etc. Can we please have an open Forum at the club when these individuals, together with the new manager and perhaps, the owners themselves, sit in front of us to listen to our views and answer the questions that need answering before the open wounds can start to heal.
Their roles?

Respectively;

PR(ick), caretaker and errrr, let me get back to you on that one.
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: Shebby, the snake, Singh, makes a fool of himself, and our club, every time he opens his mouth and pokes out his forked tongue. If Henning Berg has to deliver promotion this season, why was he given a three year contract? Why not a nine month one with an option to extend? Can someone please, please tell me who is actually running this club. What are the respective roles of Singh, Shaw, Agnew etc. Can we please have an open Forum at the club when these individuals, together with the new manager and perhaps, the owners themselves, sit in front of us to listen to our views and answer the questions that need answering before the open wounds can start to heal.[/p][/quote]Their roles? Respectively; PR(ick), caretaker and errrr, let me get back to you on that one. whappen

3:52am Sat 3 Nov 12

smellthecoffee says...

forever blue and white wrote:
Well he may not be everyones favourite but what he has done is A. Helped in the process of getting rid of Kean B. Getting a new manager that in fairness may not have been everyones first choice but at least Rovers fans can relate to the new manager and there is some experience there unlike the last plank that was in charge Lets hope his choice is successful Judging by the big majority of posts on this site over the last 24 hours Rovers fans are ready once more to support the manager and the team Well done Shebby. Those that do not agreewith me I dont want a torrent of abuse this is just my opinion
Come on LET!!! Can it be more obvious than this??? You just happy to let people spout their rubbish & destroy the football club?? Peter White and Jack Walker will be looking down with shame and disgust.
[quote][p][bold]forever blue and white[/bold] wrote: Well he may not be everyones favourite but what he has done is A. Helped in the process of getting rid of Kean B. Getting a new manager that in fairness may not have been everyones first choice but at least Rovers fans can relate to the new manager and there is some experience there unlike the last plank that was in charge Lets hope his choice is successful Judging by the big majority of posts on this site over the last 24 hours Rovers fans are ready once more to support the manager and the team Well done Shebby. Those that do not agreewith me I dont want a torrent of abuse this is just my opinion[/p][/quote]Come on LET!!! Can it be more obvious than this??? You just happy to let people spout their rubbish & destroy the football club?? Peter White and Jack Walker will be looking down with shame and disgust. smellthecoffee

4:26am Sat 3 Nov 12

smellthecoffee says...

Stephan Honchez cannot understand it either...Berg...with a very average management record (at best) gets tasked with the job of getting the club promoted (and the multi-million pound salary that goes with it). JOKE!!! Shearer?? McCarthy?? Benitez?? Holloway?? No...a Norwegian pundit out of work for a year, with no experience of English football management and a poor record in Norway....just to keep the idiots in employment!!
Stephan Honchez cannot understand it either...Berg...with a very average management record (at best) gets tasked with the job of getting the club promoted (and the multi-million pound salary that goes with it). JOKE!!! Shearer?? McCarthy?? Benitez?? Holloway?? No...a Norwegian pundit out of work for a year, with no experience of English football management and a poor record in Norway....just to keep the idiots in employment!! smellthecoffee

4:30am Sat 3 Nov 12

smellthecoffee says...

Accy Phil wrote:
Its a poor league, promotion is expected full stop!
That's just said for effect...if they don't get promoted it's not a problem...they've got another 3 years minimum of a decent salary which should pay their bills off. Hendry will be laughing.....claim bankruptcy...then get paid thousands of pounds a week. I'm just glad I'm not one of the idiots who helps pay his way....
[quote][p][bold]Accy Phil[/bold] wrote: Its a poor league, promotion is expected full stop![/p][/quote]That's just said for effect...if they don't get promoted it's not a problem...they've got another 3 years minimum of a decent salary which should pay their bills off. Hendry will be laughing.....claim bankruptcy...then get paid thousands of pounds a week. I'm just glad I'm not one of the idiots who helps pay his way.... smellthecoffee

12:03pm Sat 3 Nov 12

handyamBRFC says...

Congratulations to Henning Berg, he was a true great player for BRFC and hopefully he can guide us back to the Premiership.
Thank God we didn't get a southener as they cant hack it up north..!
and HBerg knows the club and has achieved success as a player and won the premiership and got the medals.....!!!

Yes we all need to get together now and roar BRFC back to where we belong.
best of luck to H Berg and the team and i'm sure you will deliver us back to the top flight.
Yes lets give Henning Berg our thoughts on the team and players now.
ok
We need to replace some players sooner rather then later
we require young energetic players not old ones...!!

Lets hope Henning Berg can find some decent players in Scandnavia
as they are good players up there...!!!

Orr is crap & not good enough for 1st team but okay as squad member
Another player required,,,! ......urgently
Dunn is slow and past it but okay as squad member for time being
Another player required...! A midfield general
Murphy is slow and past it but okay as a squad member
Pederson is getting slower and older by the day, okay in squad
but we do require a fast winger who can deliver crosses

I think if we can find a Midfield general to boss the center
and a fast winger as Pederson was good but getting slower....!
with 2 midfielders our midfield will be sufficient.
I think we need to bring in someone to replace Orr

we have BEST who should be okay when hes back but in the meantime maybe we need a big striker to play alongside Rhodes....!

What do you think..???
what are your views on the players and the team..?
what players would you realistically like to see playing for BRFC.?
lets share these views and i'm sure HBerg will read some...!!

Rovers will be back in the Premiership so come on ROAR em on.
Congratulations to Henning Berg, he was a true great player for BRFC and hopefully he can guide us back to the Premiership. Thank God we didn't get a southener as they cant hack it up north..! and HBerg knows the club and has achieved success as a player and won the premiership and got the medals.....!!! Yes we all need to get together now and roar BRFC back to where we belong. best of luck to H Berg and the team and i'm sure you will deliver us back to the top flight. Yes lets give Henning Berg our thoughts on the team and players now. ok We need to replace some players sooner rather then later we require young energetic players not old ones...!! Lets hope Henning Berg can find some decent players in Scandnavia as they are good players up there...!!! Orr is crap & not good enough for 1st team but okay as squad member Another player required,,,! ......urgently Dunn is slow and past it but okay as squad member for time being Another player required...! A midfield general Murphy is slow and past it but okay as a squad member Pederson is getting slower and older by the day, okay in squad but we do require a fast winger who can deliver crosses I think if we can find a Midfield general to boss the center and a fast winger as Pederson was good but getting slower....! with 2 midfielders our midfield will be sufficient. I think we need to bring in someone to replace Orr we have BEST who should be okay when hes back but in the meantime maybe we need a big striker to play alongside Rhodes....! What do you think..??? what are your views on the players and the team..? what players would you realistically like to see playing for BRFC.? lets share these views and i'm sure HBerg will read some...!! Rovers will be back in the Premiership so come on ROAR em on. handyamBRFC

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