Black wants a Rovers boss decision

7:23am Wednesday 24th October 2012 in Football

Eric Black Eric Black

ROVERS caretaker boss Eric Black has urged the club to make a decision sooner rather than later on a new permanent manager.

Black, who takes charge of the side for tonight’s visit of Sheffield Wednesday, has been at the helm since Steve Kean’s resignation last month.

And the Scot, who is yet to taste victory in his four games in charge, is eager for a resolution within the next seven days.

“We’re getting to a position now where in the next week or so a decision has to be made,” said Black.

“For the club to continue to move forward a decision has to come pretty soon.

“Without doubt I am out of the process, there is no point in me being involved in it.”

Blackburn have seen approaches for former midfield pair Tim Sherwood and Billy McKinlay turned down by Tottenham and Fulham respectively while the club is understood to still be keen on a move for Molde boss Ole Gunnar Solskjaer.

Any move for the former Manchester United striker is unlikely to be confirmed until the Norwegian season finishes at the end of next month, but Rovers are believed to be examining ways of providing a stop-gap until Solskjaer is available.

Black is well aware that a swift decision in the club’s ongoing search for a new boss will appease supporters and in turn help performances on the pitch.

“I have said all along that the lifeblood of any club is the supporters,” he added. “You need support and you need people around the club that want to succeed.

“We need to generate an atmosphere at Blackburn that assists the players. That hasn’t happened for whatever reason, but if we don’t get it we are not moving forward.

“There has to be a resolution somewhere and if there is not then Blackburn Rovers are not operating at their maximum and to get out of the division you need to be operating at your maximum.”

Meanwhile, Ewood global advisor Shebby Singh has pleaded with the fans to be patient as the club look to secure an appointment.

Huge numbers of supporters reacted angrily to the news that Rovers were considering McKinlay and Singh insisted he is taking the fans’ feelings into account. “What I would like to do is appeal to the fans, do not react to rumours,” said Singh.

“I am taking everybody’s emotions into consideration. The fans have been through difficult times, the last thing I want is to put the fans through more anguish. Give me more time now rather than all of us rushing to a decision now and then we all suffer together.

“I do understand the frustrations that are possibly beginning to spill over. Judging the fans’ reactions becomes another box (to tick).

“The fan reaction is very important. We are being very very transparent with it. We are not going to go around sneaking behind people’s backs. No promises have been made and there are no certaintites. We officially inform the club, the club says no and then we back off.

“It is not as easy as sometimes it is made out to be. It has been a very difficult three weeks,” he told Rovers Player. “We have to make a quick decision but at the same time we cannot rush.

“We have to make sure we cover all our bases and don’t leave any stone unturned.”

Comments (115)

7:36am Wed 24 Oct 12

philmoulden says...

Do not patronise the Rovers fans , playing childish games with us shebby and black , i feel your stupid move for mckinlay was a ploy to get fans to think that we might as well keep black , now go and get a real football manager , you are pathetic sheddy , a clown trying kidology with the SUPPORTERS .
Do not patronise the Rovers fans , playing childish games with us shebby and black , i feel your stupid move for mckinlay was a ploy to get fans to think that we might as well keep black , now go and get a real football manager , you are pathetic sheddy , a clown trying kidology with the SUPPORTERS . philmoulden

7:55am Wed 24 Oct 12

killdrum says...

"Give me more time now rather than all of us rushing to a decision now and then we all suffer together" -Shebby

Then why did you made two approaches for McKinlay then u ****!!
"Give me more time now rather than all of us rushing to a decision now and then we all suffer together" -Shebby Then why did you made two approaches for McKinlay then u ****!! killdrum

8:04am Wed 24 Oct 12

roversok says...

“What I would like to do is appeal to the fans, do not react to rumours,” said Singh
So you have not tried to get McKinlay then ?
We will wait for OGS if he says he will come, other than that get a Manager in now
Have BRFC interviewed anyone?
Bolton and b*stards are nearer to getting a manager than us
“What I would like to do is appeal to the fans, do not react to rumours,” said Singh So you have not tried to get McKinlay then ? We will wait for OGS if he says he will come, other than that get a Manager in now Have BRFC interviewed anyone? Bolton and b*stards are nearer to getting a manager than us roversok

8:18am Wed 24 Oct 12

stick to football says...

Dont we all !!

You cant rush these matters but by the time a decision is made we could be in freefall - 6 points from next two games critical Shebby
Dont we all !! You cant rush these matters but by the time a decision is made we could be in freefall - 6 points from next two games critical Shebby stick to football

8:18am Wed 24 Oct 12

Steve BB2 says...

roversok wrote:
“What I would like to do is appeal to the fans, do not react to rumours,” said Singh So you have not tried to get McKinlay then ? We will wait for OGS if he says he will come, other than that get a Manager in now Have BRFC interviewed anyone? Bolton and b*stards are nearer to getting a manager than us
Bolton already have a new manager and Burnley have been doing ok without one ! (unfortunately!)
We havent got one and are not doing well without one, so maybe the backroom staff are not that good. Maybe when we get a new man in then he can bring some competent staff into the club.
Sounds good in theory but will it happen or will we just get another coach to try their hand at management and fail again, like SK?
[quote][p][bold]roversok[/bold] wrote: “What I would like to do is appeal to the fans, do not react to rumours,” said Singh So you have not tried to get McKinlay then ? We will wait for OGS if he says he will come, other than that get a Manager in now Have BRFC interviewed anyone? Bolton and b*stards are nearer to getting a manager than us[/p][/quote]Bolton already have a new manager and Burnley have been doing ok without one ! (unfortunately!) We havent got one and are not doing well without one, so maybe the backroom staff are not that good. Maybe when we get a new man in then he can bring some competent staff into the club. Sounds good in theory but will it happen or will we just get another coach to try their hand at management and fail again, like SK? Steve BB2

8:40am Wed 24 Oct 12

dangerous dave says...

As if the club is not in enough turmoil then you read the article in yesterdays LT about Colin Hendry.
Were are the hallmarks of integrity, honesty and family values that Jack Walker/Williams promoted whilst under their reign gone.
Hendry a bankrupt owing thousands to innocent people, a liar and lucky (reading between the lines) not to have been charged with assault/beating continues to embarrass the club further.
Ewood used to be filled with individuals and families passionate about their club no it is half filled with people with a bitter taste in their mouth about Kean and his cohorts.
Its about time the likes of Shaw Agnew and Singh returned these values back to the club and its fans because if they dont the Rovers will fade into the abyss - its pointless talking about Mrs D - we never see or here from her and I think the Venkeys interpretation of the word 'value' is only in their 'value' packs of chicken legs and drum sticks.
I for one will not return to Ewood until we see Keans cohorts disappear out of sight and the current board start to instill some of the family traditions of honesty and integrity back into the club.
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY VENKEYS
As if the club is not in enough turmoil then you read the article in yesterdays LT about Colin Hendry. Were are the hallmarks of integrity, honesty and family values that Jack Walker/Williams promoted whilst under their reign gone. Hendry a bankrupt owing thousands to innocent people, a liar and lucky (reading between the lines) not to have been charged with assault/beating continues to embarrass the club further. Ewood used to be filled with individuals and families passionate about their club no it is half filled with people with a bitter taste in their mouth about Kean and his cohorts. Its about time the likes of Shaw Agnew and Singh returned these values back to the club and its fans because if they dont the Rovers will fade into the abyss - its pointless talking about Mrs D - we never see or here from her and I think the Venkeys interpretation of the word 'value' is only in their 'value' packs of chicken legs and drum sticks. I for one will not return to Ewood until we see Keans cohorts disappear out of sight and the current board start to instill some of the family traditions of honesty and integrity back into the club. OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY VENKEYS dangerous dave

8:52am Wed 24 Oct 12

RespectTheK-Dog says...

Don't mess about. Give the job to Hendry. He's been ticking all the right boxes lately: getting drunk, getting arrested. And standing about on the touchline offering no direction or input. It's what the team needs.

This club needs a hard drinking Scot who can successfully drink 14 pints and gamble ferociously with other people's life savings.

BLACK OUT

HENDRY IN

With Shebby making all the tough decisions of course.

Or you could appoint Shearer of course. He'd be even worse !
Don't mess about. Give the job to Hendry. He's been ticking all the right boxes lately: getting drunk, getting arrested. And standing about on the touchline offering no direction or input. It's what the team needs. This club needs a hard drinking Scot who can successfully drink 14 pints and gamble ferociously with other people's life savings. BLACK OUT HENDRY IN With Shebby making all the tough decisions of course. Or you could appoint Shearer of course. He'd be even worse ! RespectTheK-Dog

8:53am Wed 24 Oct 12

unclejacklegend says...

It's really not that difficult shebby, get venkys to put their hands in their pockets for an experienced, proven manager, then you don't even need a massive transfer kitty. Mark Hughes brought in warnock, samba, Nelsen and ooijer for less than we paid for Scott dann, go figure.
It's really not that difficult shebby, get venkys to put their hands in their pockets for an experienced, proven manager, then you don't even need a massive transfer kitty. Mark Hughes brought in warnock, samba, Nelsen and ooijer for less than we paid for Scott dann, go figure. unclejacklegend

8:55am Wed 24 Oct 12

FannyTickler says...

Bring back Kean!
Bring back Kean! FannyTickler

9:01am Wed 24 Oct 12

ewoodcow says...

I suspect, and this is largely down to Mullen and his merry men, that we will now see Black appointed initially as a long term temporary manager and then at some stage confirmed as manager.

I'm not saying that I would have been happy with McKinlay as manager but a small supporter base such as BRAG should not be able to leverage such influence over the choice of a manager to the extent that the Club changes its mind on a potential appointee. This further brings into focus the weak leadership and management at Rovers.

The people on here who are applauding Bolton for making a swift appointment would also have been moaning if Rover had appointed Freedman due to his relative lack of experience!!
I suspect, and this is largely down to Mullen and his merry men, that we will now see Black appointed initially as a long term temporary manager and then at some stage confirmed as manager. I'm not saying that I would have been happy with McKinlay as manager but a small supporter base such as BRAG should not be able to leverage such influence over the choice of a manager to the extent that the Club changes its mind on a potential appointee. This further brings into focus the weak leadership and management at Rovers. The people on here who are applauding Bolton for making a swift appointment would also have been moaning if Rover had appointed Freedman due to his relative lack of experience!! ewoodcow

9:09am Wed 24 Oct 12

eddie the eagle says...

As fans we all like to air our opinions and on here we do,the only problem is they are all different.One thing that must not happen is that the fans pick the manager or even think they can,that is arecipe for disaster.It might be a bigger disaster to let Venkys and there cohorts pick him but that is the way its got to be.
Give us a manager and let us get behind him and his team and hope he succeeds.Glen Mullan spoke for a lot of fans in the campaign to remove Kean he does not have a concensus on who the next manager should be.
So for god sake Shebby appoint a manager because I'm beginning to suspect that all these names and dead ends are down to your inability to negotiate in the world of football.
As fans we all like to air our opinions and on here we do,the only problem is they are all different.One thing that must not happen is that the fans pick the manager or even think they can,that is arecipe for disaster.It might be a bigger disaster to let Venkys and there cohorts pick him but that is the way its got to be. Give us a manager and let us get behind him and his team and hope he succeeds.Glen Mullan spoke for a lot of fans in the campaign to remove Kean he does not have a concensus on who the next manager should be. So for god sake Shebby appoint a manager because I'm beginning to suspect that all these names and dead ends are down to your inability to negotiate in the world of football. eddie the eagle

9:28am Wed 24 Oct 12

jackmetickler says...

its a good job from the comments above it isnt down to the fans to pick a manager... TF

whoever comes in is going to face the normal 'Riverside' pessimism....
its been one of the traits of our fans since I have been going since the 60's, but seems to have become a disease of late!

But FFS give whomever it turns out to be a fighting chance..... or all your predictions of doom will be self fulfilling prophecies.
its a good job from the comments above it isnt down to the fans to pick a manager... TF whoever comes in is going to face the normal 'Riverside' pessimism.... its been one of the traits of our fans since I have been going since the 60's, but seems to have become a disease of late! But FFS give whomever it turns out to be a fighting chance..... or all your predictions of doom will be self fulfilling prophecies. jackmetickler

9:28am Wed 24 Oct 12

Gaz M says...

The fans fear that the longer you take Shebby the more ludicrous your targets seem to get. Listen to people who have the good interest of the club at heart and get a true manager now.
The fans fear that the longer you take Shebby the more ludicrous your targets seem to get. Listen to people who have the good interest of the club at heart and get a true manager now. Gaz M

9:34am Wed 24 Oct 12

Blueblood95 says...

Don't believe a word that comes out of Ewood. Was told by a mate who works at Brockhall that the word down there is that the problem with appointing a new manager is that Singh, Agnew and Shaw all have their own lists and they are all different. Agnew and Shaw want an experienced manager and Singh want a younger guy who he can mold, and probably manipulate. It's a complete shambles with no conclusion in sight.
Don't believe a word that comes out of Ewood. Was told by a mate who works at Brockhall that the word down there is that the problem with appointing a new manager is that Singh, Agnew and Shaw all have their own lists and they are all different. Agnew and Shaw want an experienced manager and Singh want a younger guy who he can mold, and probably manipulate. It's a complete shambles with no conclusion in sight. Blueblood95

9:40am Wed 24 Oct 12

Captain Dreckley says...

And so say all of us Eric, so say all of us. The thoughts that Rovers are keen on OGS on face value are encouraging but is there any substance? As for an interim solution till OGS can start, what about Tony Parkes and appeal to his love of our club. If Singh can agree a contract with OGS now and bring in Tony we can put this fiasco behind us and get on with the most important thing, the football. Surely Venkys can see that Singh is as big a mistake as Kean? Unfortunately they seem unable to admit to making mistakes in their appointments. In Singh we have no confidence.
And so say all of us Eric, so say all of us. The thoughts that Rovers are keen on OGS on face value are encouraging but is there any substance? As for an interim solution till OGS can start, what about Tony Parkes and appeal to his love of our club. If Singh can agree a contract with OGS now and bring in Tony we can put this fiasco behind us and get on with the most important thing, the football. Surely Venkys can see that Singh is as big a mistake as Kean? Unfortunately they seem unable to admit to making mistakes in their appointments. In Singh we have no confidence. Captain Dreckley

9:41am Wed 24 Oct 12

raflas says...

Can Shebby be anymore contradictory? Does he think we were all born yesterday?

“What I would like to do is appeal to the fans, do not react to rumours,” So we have made no approach to Fulham?

It is not as easy as sometimes it is made out to be. It has been a very difficult three weeks,” “We have to make a quick decision but at the same time we cannot rush. What have you been doing for the last 3 weeks? Didn't we have a plethora of CV's from top managers worldwide, which surprised you? Have we interviewed a single candidate?

There must be some hidden agenda here. The shortlist according to Shebby on SkySports News was drawn up nearly two weeks ago. We've approached two clubs for coaches?
Absolute Joke. Usually in football boards, etc have a rough idea of compensation involved when approaching somebody in a job. Surely that comes into the decision making process. Did Shebby think Daniel Levy would just say, 'Yes, you can speak to Tim no problem, have him for free'. He is deluded.

What it comes down to is that he doesn't have a clue how to make an approach let alone an appointment. He is way out of his depth. Basically he has no idea who the next manager will be? If he was concerned about appeasing the fans, whilst appointing an experienced British Manager, why not approach Blackpool for Holloway (who it has been confirmed has a 500k buy out clause in his contract) Ticks the boxes and was No 1 choice of the fans in the LET.

No leadership at BRFC whatsoever.
Can Shebby be anymore contradictory? Does he think we were all born yesterday? “What I would like to do is appeal to the fans, do not react to rumours,” So we have made no approach to Fulham? It is not as easy as sometimes it is made out to be. It has been a very difficult three weeks,” “We have to make a quick decision but at the same time we cannot rush. What have you been doing for the last 3 weeks? Didn't we have a plethora of CV's from top managers worldwide, which surprised you? Have we interviewed a single candidate? There must be some hidden agenda here. The shortlist according to Shebby on SkySports News was drawn up nearly two weeks ago. We've approached two clubs for coaches? Absolute Joke. Usually in football boards, etc have a rough idea of compensation involved when approaching somebody in a job. Surely that comes into the decision making process. Did Shebby think Daniel Levy would just say, 'Yes, you can speak to Tim no problem, have him for free'. He is deluded. What it comes down to is that he doesn't have a clue how to make an approach let alone an appointment. He is way out of his depth. Basically he has no idea who the next manager will be? If he was concerned about appeasing the fans, whilst appointing an experienced British Manager, why not approach Blackpool for Holloway (who it has been confirmed has a 500k buy out clause in his contract) Ticks the boxes and was No 1 choice of the fans in the LET. No leadership at BRFC whatsoever. raflas

9:43am Wed 24 Oct 12

mellorb&w says...

Blueblood95 wrote:
Don't believe a word that comes out of Ewood. Was told by a mate who works at Brockhall that the word down there is that the problem with appointing a new manager is that Singh, Agnew and Shaw all have their own lists and they are all different. Agnew and Shaw want an experienced manager and Singh want a younger guy who he can mold, and probably manipulate. It's a complete shambles with no conclusion in sight.
I'm inclined to believe what you say but today is a match day and I think we should set aside our justifiable anger and get down to Ewood tonight and get behind the team. It's vital we get a win tonight. Air all grievances tomorrow by all means but be supporters today.
[quote][p][bold]Blueblood95[/bold] wrote: Don't believe a word that comes out of Ewood. Was told by a mate who works at Brockhall that the word down there is that the problem with appointing a new manager is that Singh, Agnew and Shaw all have their own lists and they are all different. Agnew and Shaw want an experienced manager and Singh want a younger guy who he can mold, and probably manipulate. It's a complete shambles with no conclusion in sight.[/p][/quote]I'm inclined to believe what you say but today is a match day and I think we should set aside our justifiable anger and get down to Ewood tonight and get behind the team. It's vital we get a win tonight. Air all grievances tomorrow by all means but be supporters today. mellorb&w

9:46am Wed 24 Oct 12

Angry From Accrington says...

Firstly, let's applaud Eric Black for acknowledging that he is out of the running. This should calm down a certain section of the blogosphere who ridiculously predicted that he would be appointed. So let's turn to realistic prospects. The fact that Spurs and Fulham have turned down approaches for their coaches is as encouraging as it is irrelevant. To have welcomed the approaches would be tantamount to admitting that they are not valued at their clubs so why would WE want them? If Sherwood or McKinlay wish to speak to Rovers, they are pefectly entitled to do so whether their clubs like it or not so the ball is in their court..........it then comes down to compensation.
I don't know whether either of these potential target would be the answer as any new manager, experienced or otherwise is a risk but in our current position, it may be a risk we need to take.
Personally I still favour Ole Gunnar Solkjear and if it means we have to wait another six weeks to get him here, so be it. If we could agree the deal and make the announcement it would give the fans and players a tremendous boost and I am sure that Eric Black would perform a professional role in the interim.
What we really need right now is honest communication and decisive action. What we DON'T need is Shebby, The Snake, Singh making mischievous, outrageous, posturing statements to try to ingratiate himself with with both fans and owners. The two are, I fear, mutually exclusive.
Firstly, let's applaud Eric Black for acknowledging that he is out of the running. This should calm down a certain section of the blogosphere who ridiculously predicted that he would be appointed. So let's turn to realistic prospects. The fact that Spurs and Fulham have turned down approaches for their coaches is as encouraging as it is irrelevant. To have welcomed the approaches would be tantamount to admitting that they are not valued at their clubs so why would WE want them? If Sherwood or McKinlay wish to speak to Rovers, they are pefectly entitled to do so whether their clubs like it or not so the ball is in their court..........it then comes down to compensation. I don't know whether either of these potential target would be the answer as any new manager, experienced or otherwise is a risk but in our current position, it may be a risk we need to take. Personally I still favour Ole Gunnar Solkjear and if it means we have to wait another six weeks to get him here, so be it. If we could agree the deal and make the announcement it would give the fans and players a tremendous boost and I am sure that Eric Black would perform a professional role in the interim. What we really need right now is honest communication and decisive action. What we DON'T need is Shebby, The Snake, Singh making mischievous, outrageous, posturing statements to try to ingratiate himself with with both fans and owners. The two are, I fear, mutually exclusive. Angry From Accrington

9:47am Wed 24 Oct 12

j166429 says...

dangerous dave wrote:
As if the club is not in enough turmoil then you read the article in yesterdays LT about Colin Hendry.
Were are the hallmarks of integrity, honesty and family values that Jack Walker/Williams promoted whilst under their reign gone.
Hendry a bankrupt owing thousands to innocent people, a liar and lucky (reading between the lines) not to have been charged with assault/beating continues to embarrass the club further.
Ewood used to be filled with individuals and families passionate about their club no it is half filled with people with a bitter taste in their mouth about Kean and his cohorts.
Its about time the likes of Shaw Agnew and Singh returned these values back to the club and its fans because if they dont the Rovers will fade into the abyss - its pointless talking about Mrs D - we never see or here from her and I think the Venkeys interpretation of the word 'value' is only in their 'value' packs of chicken legs and drum sticks.
I for one will not return to Ewood until we see Keans cohorts disappear out of sight and the current board start to instill some of the family traditions of honesty and integrity back into the club.
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY VENKEYS
Couldn't have put it better
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: As if the club is not in enough turmoil then you read the article in yesterdays LT about Colin Hendry. Were are the hallmarks of integrity, honesty and family values that Jack Walker/Williams promoted whilst under their reign gone. Hendry a bankrupt owing thousands to innocent people, a liar and lucky (reading between the lines) not to have been charged with assault/beating continues to embarrass the club further. Ewood used to be filled with individuals and families passionate about their club no it is half filled with people with a bitter taste in their mouth about Kean and his cohorts. Its about time the likes of Shaw Agnew and Singh returned these values back to the club and its fans because if they dont the Rovers will fade into the abyss - its pointless talking about Mrs D - we never see or here from her and I think the Venkeys interpretation of the word 'value' is only in their 'value' packs of chicken legs and drum sticks. I for one will not return to Ewood until we see Keans cohorts disappear out of sight and the current board start to instill some of the family traditions of honesty and integrity back into the club. OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY VENKEYS[/p][/quote]Couldn't have put it better j166429

9:49am Wed 24 Oct 12

French Rover says...

The Rovers boards in the past just identified the manager they wanted and if available they went out and got him with the minimum of fuss and without all the media glare and fan interaction that we are seeing today. Bolton seem to have done exactly what the Rovers used to do, got their man quickly and quietly and are read to move on with their new manager.

Rovers board should have done the same. They have people on the board who know how this works (even if Shebby doesn't have a clue) and they should have been 'guiding' the appointment process for the owners. Maybe they were not allowed to participate, we will never know, but what we are left with now is a right royal mess.

Rovers should shut down the dialogue with the media now, offer no comment on any speculation and go and get the next manager now.
They can then present him as soon as possible as a 'fait accompli' to the waiting press and fans. If some fans don't like their choice then fair enough as not everyone will agree whoever the choice is - but at least we will have a manager again and can get back to the main job in hand - trying to get back to the prem!
The Rovers boards in the past just identified the manager they wanted and if available they went out and got him with the minimum of fuss and without all the media glare and fan interaction that we are seeing today. Bolton seem to have done exactly what the Rovers used to do, got their man quickly and quietly and are read to move on with their new manager. Rovers board should have done the same. They have people on the board who know how this works (even if Shebby doesn't have a clue) and they should have been 'guiding' the appointment process for the owners. Maybe they were not allowed to participate, we will never know, but what we are left with now is a right royal mess. Rovers should shut down the dialogue with the media now, offer no comment on any speculation and go and get the next manager now. They can then present him as soon as possible as a 'fait accompli' to the waiting press and fans. If some fans don't like their choice then fair enough as not everyone will agree whoever the choice is - but at least we will have a manager again and can get back to the main job in hand - trying to get back to the prem! French Rover

9:58am Wed 24 Oct 12

moh says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
Firstly, let's applaud Eric Black for acknowledging that he is out of the running. This should calm down a certain section of the blogosphere who ridiculously predicted that he would be appointed. So let's turn to realistic prospects. The fact that Spurs and Fulham have turned down approaches for their coaches is as encouraging as it is irrelevant. To have welcomed the approaches would be tantamount to admitting that they are not valued at their clubs so why would WE want them? If Sherwood or McKinlay wish to speak to Rovers, they are pefectly entitled to do so whether their clubs like it or not so the ball is in their court..........it then comes down to compensation. I don't know whether either of these potential target would be the answer as any new manager, experienced or otherwise is a risk but in our current position, it may be a risk we need to take. Personally I still favour Ole Gunnar Solkjear and if it means we have to wait another six weeks to get him here, so be it. If we could agree the deal and make the announcement it would give the fans and players a tremendous boost and I am sure that Eric Black would perform a professional role in the interim. What we really need right now is honest communication and decisive action. What we DON'T need is Shebby, The Snake, Singh making mischievous, outrageous, posturing statements to try to ingratiate himself with with both fans and owners. The two are, I fear, mutually exclusive.
Things have changed for better since Shebby has arrived. Shebby has said this morning dont react to every rumour you hear, there will be a lot in the Press. Shebby won his duel with Kean which was a big ask as Kean allegedly controlled everything. Rhodes has been signed, there is more communication with fans etc. Good luck Shebby in the clubs mission to get a good manager and your mission to get rovers into premiership.
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: Firstly, let's applaud Eric Black for acknowledging that he is out of the running. This should calm down a certain section of the blogosphere who ridiculously predicted that he would be appointed. So let's turn to realistic prospects. The fact that Spurs and Fulham have turned down approaches for their coaches is as encouraging as it is irrelevant. To have welcomed the approaches would be tantamount to admitting that they are not valued at their clubs so why would WE want them? If Sherwood or McKinlay wish to speak to Rovers, they are pefectly entitled to do so whether their clubs like it or not so the ball is in their court..........it then comes down to compensation. I don't know whether either of these potential target would be the answer as any new manager, experienced or otherwise is a risk but in our current position, it may be a risk we need to take. Personally I still favour Ole Gunnar Solkjear and if it means we have to wait another six weeks to get him here, so be it. If we could agree the deal and make the announcement it would give the fans and players a tremendous boost and I am sure that Eric Black would perform a professional role in the interim. What we really need right now is honest communication and decisive action. What we DON'T need is Shebby, The Snake, Singh making mischievous, outrageous, posturing statements to try to ingratiate himself with with both fans and owners. The two are, I fear, mutually exclusive.[/p][/quote]Things have changed for better since Shebby has arrived. Shebby has said this morning dont react to every rumour you hear, there will be a lot in the Press. Shebby won his duel with Kean which was a big ask as Kean allegedly controlled everything. Rhodes has been signed, there is more communication with fans etc. Good luck Shebby in the clubs mission to get a good manager and your mission to get rovers into premiership. moh

10:01am Wed 24 Oct 12

moh says...

roversok wrote:
“What I would like to do is appeal to the fans, do not react to rumours,” said Singh So you have not tried to get McKinlay then ? We will wait for OGS if he says he will come, other than that get a Manager in now Have BRFC interviewed anyone? Bolton and b*stards are nearer to getting a manager than us
unlike Bolton some fans at rovers would not want freeman as he lacks experience.
[quote][p][bold]roversok[/bold] wrote: “What I would like to do is appeal to the fans, do not react to rumours,” said Singh So you have not tried to get McKinlay then ? We will wait for OGS if he says he will come, other than that get a Manager in now Have BRFC interviewed anyone? Bolton and b*stards are nearer to getting a manager than us[/p][/quote]unlike Bolton some fans at rovers would not want freeman as he lacks experience. moh

10:07am Wed 24 Oct 12

tiojo says...

Taking time to find a new manager is in itself no bad thing. As long as it leads to a good appointment. But it seems that the owners are in search of a cheap option. An untried trainer with a reasonable reputation who will be invited to step up the ladder to club management. Of course, that untried manager will be answerable to the club's 'global adviser' who no doubt after years of offering comments on TV sees himself as a manager-in-waiting. All the indications are that the club's troubles will continue beyond the appoiontment of a new manager whoever that person may turn out to be.
Taking time to find a new manager is in itself no bad thing. As long as it leads to a good appointment. But it seems that the owners are in search of a cheap option. An untried trainer with a reasonable reputation who will be invited to step up the ladder to club management. Of course, that untried manager will be answerable to the club's 'global adviser' who no doubt after years of offering comments on TV sees himself as a manager-in-waiting. All the indications are that the club's troubles will continue beyond the appoiontment of a new manager whoever that person may turn out to be. tiojo

10:13am Wed 24 Oct 12

Rovers 1495 says...

"but Rovers are believed to be examining ways of providing a stop-gap until Solskjaer is available"

So has he been contacted ? Has he replied ? Have his club knocked the request into touch ? What does this phrase actually mean ?
"but Rovers are believed to be examining ways of providing a stop-gap until Solskjaer is available" So has he been contacted ? Has he replied ? Have his club knocked the request into touch ? What does this phrase actually mean ? Rovers 1495

10:15am Wed 24 Oct 12

Ianwhittam says...

Shebby is looking very shabby now. It is blindingly obvious that the venkys and there global adviser can talk a good fight, but when the chips are down, would you really want them on your side. Don't think so!
What happened to all the big names. On BBC sports even Shearer called Rovers 'a lovely club that needs looking after', and stated that if the venkys approached him he would be willing to talk. I know Shearers management record is little and poor, but that is just an example of the tall tales emanating from the deceptive triumvirate in control.
Shabby's statement that a new manager would have three matches to turn the situation round would have put even steve kean off ( well maybe not) but no experienced manager would contemplate the job under those terms. A realistic proposition would be to expect a decent position in the championship this year, with a push for promotion next year.. Whose fault is that? It is the fault of venkys and co. and totally down to bad , no, abyssmal running of our club! Stop trying to kid the fanbase, most of which have a more level headed and realistic understanding of the state you have imposed on our club. Grow up and get real. We have all had enough
Shebby is looking very shabby now. It is blindingly obvious that the venkys and there global adviser can talk a good fight, but when the chips are down, would you really want them on your side. Don't think so! What happened to all the big names. On BBC sports even Shearer called Rovers 'a lovely club that needs looking after', and stated that if the venkys approached him he would be willing to talk. I know Shearers management record is little and poor, but that is just an example of the tall tales emanating from the deceptive triumvirate in control. Shabby's statement that a new manager would have three matches to turn the situation round would have put even steve kean off ( well maybe not) but no experienced manager would contemplate the job under those terms. A realistic proposition would be to expect a decent position in the championship this year, with a push for promotion next year.. Whose fault is that? It is the fault of venkys and co. and totally down to bad , no, abyssmal running of our club! Stop trying to kid the fanbase, most of which have a more level headed and realistic understanding of the state you have imposed on our club. Grow up and get real. We have all had enough Ianwhittam

10:19am Wed 24 Oct 12

Ryanb74 says...

Been reading a lot of toss in the papers about Shabby wanting a young manager to mould into "the next Mourinho". How does this work then? What experience does this man to mould anyone into anything? And why is he photographed in training kit with his initials on? What is this self-felating no mark doing anywhere near the training ground?
Been reading a lot of toss in the papers about Shabby wanting a young manager to mould into "the next Mourinho". How does this work then? What experience does this man to mould anyone into anything? And why is he photographed in training kit with his initials on? What is this self-felating no mark doing anywhere near the training ground? Ryanb74

10:26am Wed 24 Oct 12

Chrissaces says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
Firstly, let's applaud Eric Black for acknowledging that he is out of the running. This should calm down a certain section of the blogosphere who ridiculously predicted that he would be appointed. So let's turn to realistic prospects. The fact that Spurs and Fulham have turned down approaches for their coaches is as encouraging as it is irrelevant. To have welcomed the approaches would be tantamount to admitting that they are not valued at their clubs so why would WE want them? If Sherwood or McKinlay wish to speak to Rovers, they are pefectly entitled to do so whether their clubs like it or not so the ball is in their court..........it then comes down to compensation.
I don't know whether either of these potential target would be the answer as any new manager, experienced or otherwise is a risk but in our current position, it may be a risk we need to take.
Personally I still favour Ole Gunnar Solkjear and if it means we have to wait another six weeks to get him here, so be it. If we could agree the deal and make the announcement it would give the fans and players a tremendous boost and I am sure that Eric Black would perform a professional role in the interim.
What we really need right now is honest communication and decisive action. What we DON'T need is Shebby, The Snake, Singh making mischievous, outrageous, posturing statements to try to ingratiate himself with with both fans and owners. The two are, I fear, mutually exclusive.
Here here!! :)

You have said above exactly what I am thinking!

RTID
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: Firstly, let's applaud Eric Black for acknowledging that he is out of the running. This should calm down a certain section of the blogosphere who ridiculously predicted that he would be appointed. So let's turn to realistic prospects. The fact that Spurs and Fulham have turned down approaches for their coaches is as encouraging as it is irrelevant. To have welcomed the approaches would be tantamount to admitting that they are not valued at their clubs so why would WE want them? If Sherwood or McKinlay wish to speak to Rovers, they are pefectly entitled to do so whether their clubs like it or not so the ball is in their court..........it then comes down to compensation. I don't know whether either of these potential target would be the answer as any new manager, experienced or otherwise is a risk but in our current position, it may be a risk we need to take. Personally I still favour Ole Gunnar Solkjear and if it means we have to wait another six weeks to get him here, so be it. If we could agree the deal and make the announcement it would give the fans and players a tremendous boost and I am sure that Eric Black would perform a professional role in the interim. What we really need right now is honest communication and decisive action. What we DON'T need is Shebby, The Snake, Singh making mischievous, outrageous, posturing statements to try to ingratiate himself with with both fans and owners. The two are, I fear, mutually exclusive.[/p][/quote]Here here!! :) You have said above exactly what I am thinking! RTID Chrissaces

10:30am Wed 24 Oct 12

garydavies2304 says...

ewoodcow wrote:
I suspect, and this is largely down to Mullen and his merry men, that we will now see Black appointed initially as a long term temporary manager and then at some stage confirmed as manager.

I'm not saying that I would have been happy with McKinlay as manager but a small supporter base such as BRAG should not be able to leverage such influence over the choice of a manager to the extent that the Club changes its mind on a potential appointee. This further brings into focus the weak leadership and management at Rovers.

The people on here who are applauding Bolton for making a swift appointment would also have been moaning if Rover had appointed Freedman due to his relative lack of experience!!
just my thoughts fans cannot run a club
[quote][p][bold]ewoodcow[/bold] wrote: I suspect, and this is largely down to Mullen and his merry men, that we will now see Black appointed initially as a long term temporary manager and then at some stage confirmed as manager. I'm not saying that I would have been happy with McKinlay as manager but a small supporter base such as BRAG should not be able to leverage such influence over the choice of a manager to the extent that the Club changes its mind on a potential appointee. This further brings into focus the weak leadership and management at Rovers. The people on here who are applauding Bolton for making a swift appointment would also have been moaning if Rover had appointed Freedman due to his relative lack of experience!![/p][/quote]just my thoughts fans cannot run a club garydavies2304

10:34am Wed 24 Oct 12

roverinmanchstr says...

Ryanb74 wrote:
Been reading a lot of toss in the papers about Shabby wanting a young manager to mould into "the next Mourinho". How does this work then? What experience does this man to mould anyone into anything? And why is he photographed in training kit with his initials on? What is this self-felating no mark doing anywhere near the training ground?
Cos he's employed by the 'The Venky's' ............The worst most incompetent set of arrogant clowns/idiots in football .They have the philosophy of deception/lies and that is why no decent manager or otherwise will take on the job..
[quote][p][bold]Ryanb74[/bold] wrote: Been reading a lot of toss in the papers about Shabby wanting a young manager to mould into "the next Mourinho". How does this work then? What experience does this man to mould anyone into anything? And why is he photographed in training kit with his initials on? What is this self-felating no mark doing anywhere near the training ground?[/p][/quote]Cos he's employed by the 'The Venky's' ............The worst most incompetent set of arrogant clowns/idiots in football .They have the philosophy of deception/lies and that is why no decent manager or otherwise will take on the job.. roverinmanchstr

10:36am Wed 24 Oct 12

Jack Herer says...

Ryanb74 wrote:
Been reading a lot of toss in the papers about Shabby wanting a young manager to mould into "the next Mourinho". How does this work then? What experience does this man to mould anyone into anything? And why is he photographed in training kit with his initials on? What is this self-felating no mark doing anywhere near the training ground?
Jesus we've got some moaning fans.

"He's got his initials on his top". "He said this". "He said that". "He looked at me this way".

Stop acting like little babies eh. Burnley fans must be laughing their **** off at how pathetic it still is.
[quote][p][bold]Ryanb74[/bold] wrote: Been reading a lot of toss in the papers about Shabby wanting a young manager to mould into "the next Mourinho". How does this work then? What experience does this man to mould anyone into anything? And why is he photographed in training kit with his initials on? What is this self-felating no mark doing anywhere near the training ground?[/p][/quote]Jesus we've got some moaning fans. "He's got his initials on his top". "He said this". "He said that". "He looked at me this way". Stop acting like little babies eh. Burnley fans must be laughing their **** off at how pathetic it still is. Jack Herer

10:37am Wed 24 Oct 12

Steve BB2 says...

mellorb&w wrote:
Blueblood95 wrote: Don't believe a word that comes out of Ewood. Was told by a mate who works at Brockhall that the word down there is that the problem with appointing a new manager is that Singh, Agnew and Shaw all have their own lists and they are all different. Agnew and Shaw want an experienced manager and Singh want a younger guy who he can mold, and probably manipulate. It's a complete shambles with no conclusion in sight.
I'm inclined to believe what you say but today is a match day and I think we should set aside our justifiable anger and get down to Ewood tonight and get behind the team. It's vital we get a win tonight. Air all grievances tomorrow by all means but be supporters today.
Good call mellorb&w !!

What we need is support for the team and a return to winning ways.

Tonight's game, on paper, should be a win. Lets get behind the lads and achieve that at least.

Then lets worry about other things in the morning !
[quote][p][bold]mellorb&w[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Blueblood95[/bold] wrote: Don't believe a word that comes out of Ewood. Was told by a mate who works at Brockhall that the word down there is that the problem with appointing a new manager is that Singh, Agnew and Shaw all have their own lists and they are all different. Agnew and Shaw want an experienced manager and Singh want a younger guy who he can mold, and probably manipulate. It's a complete shambles with no conclusion in sight.[/p][/quote]I'm inclined to believe what you say but today is a match day and I think we should set aside our justifiable anger and get down to Ewood tonight and get behind the team. It's vital we get a win tonight. Air all grievances tomorrow by all means but be supporters today.[/p][/quote]Good call mellorb&w !! What we need is support for the team and a return to winning ways. Tonight's game, on paper, should be a win. Lets get behind the lads and achieve that at least. Then lets worry about other things in the morning ! Steve BB2

10:40am Wed 24 Oct 12

Jack Herer says...

dangerous dave wrote:
As if the club is not in enough turmoil then you read the article in yesterdays LT about Colin Hendry.
Were are the hallmarks of integrity, honesty and family values that Jack Walker/Williams promoted whilst under their reign gone.
Hendry a bankrupt owing thousands to innocent people, a liar and lucky (reading between the lines) not to have been charged with assault/beating continues to embarrass the club further.
Ewood used to be filled with individuals and families passionate about their club no it is half filled with people with a bitter taste in their mouth about Kean and his cohorts.
Its about time the likes of Shaw Agnew and Singh returned these values back to the club and its fans because if they dont the Rovers will fade into the abyss - its pointless talking about Mrs D - we never see or here from her and I think the Venkeys interpretation of the word 'value' is only in their 'value' packs of chicken legs and drum sticks.
I for one will not return to Ewood until we see Keans cohorts disappear out of sight and the current board start to instill some of the family traditions of honesty and integrity back into the club.
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY VENKEYS
So you are holding out for new owners?

Good luck, because no one wants us. They never did either, the Walker trust were desperate to sell us but no one wanted us.

How many years till you are back at Ewood do you think? Are you looking forward to a hate filled existence as you rant in the meanwhile?
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: As if the club is not in enough turmoil then you read the article in yesterdays LT about Colin Hendry. Were are the hallmarks of integrity, honesty and family values that Jack Walker/Williams promoted whilst under their reign gone. Hendry a bankrupt owing thousands to innocent people, a liar and lucky (reading between the lines) not to have been charged with assault/beating continues to embarrass the club further. Ewood used to be filled with individuals and families passionate about their club no it is half filled with people with a bitter taste in their mouth about Kean and his cohorts. Its about time the likes of Shaw Agnew and Singh returned these values back to the club and its fans because if they dont the Rovers will fade into the abyss - its pointless talking about Mrs D - we never see or here from her and I think the Venkeys interpretation of the word 'value' is only in their 'value' packs of chicken legs and drum sticks. I for one will not return to Ewood until we see Keans cohorts disappear out of sight and the current board start to instill some of the family traditions of honesty and integrity back into the club. OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY VENKEYS[/p][/quote]So you are holding out for new owners? Good luck, because no one wants us. They never did either, the Walker trust were desperate to sell us but no one wanted us. How many years till you are back at Ewood do you think? Are you looking forward to a hate filled existence as you rant in the meanwhile? Jack Herer

10:49am Wed 24 Oct 12

keithnewton2 says...

The farce continues. Ive supported Rovers for as long as I can remember, through the 4-1 FA cup defeat to City in 1969, the 5-2 win over Plymouth in the old third division to the premiership title and beyond.

It saddens me to say it, but no more. This club, my club, has been wilfully and systematically destroyed over the last two years. We've gone from one of the best run clubs in the country punching way above our weight to the worst. I'm sick of the pantomime and fed up of treated like a fool. So, Venkys, not that you really care, I'm outta here.

Football is rotten, from Ewood to John Terry. No more money from me, I'm going fishing instead.
The farce continues. Ive supported Rovers for as long as I can remember, through the 4-1 FA cup defeat to City in 1969, the 5-2 win over Plymouth in the old third division to the premiership title and beyond. It saddens me to say it, but no more. This club, my club, has been wilfully and systematically destroyed over the last two years. We've gone from one of the best run clubs in the country punching way above our weight to the worst. I'm sick of the pantomime and fed up of treated like a fool. So, Venkys, not that you really care, I'm outta here. Football is rotten, from Ewood to John Terry. No more money from me, I'm going fishing instead. keithnewton2

10:50am Wed 24 Oct 12

Brfc24138931 says...

So what happened about holloway at Blackpool. We dont want ex players never never never. It just doesnt work
So what happened about holloway at Blackpool. We dont want ex players never never never. It just doesnt work Brfc24138931

10:51am Wed 24 Oct 12

benal13 says...

French Rover wrote:
The Rovers boards in the past just identified the manager they wanted and if available they went out and got him with the minimum of fuss and without all the media glare and fan interaction that we are seeing today. Bolton seem to have done exactly what the Rovers used to do, got their man quickly and quietly and are read to move on with their new manager.

Rovers board should have done the same. They have people on the board who know how this works (even if Shebby doesn't have a clue) and they should have been 'guiding' the appointment process for the owners. Maybe they were not allowed to participate, we will never know, but what we are left with now is a right royal mess.

Rovers should shut down the dialogue with the media now, offer no comment on any speculation and go and get the next manager now.
They can then present him as soon as possible as a 'fait accompli' to the waiting press and fans. If some fans don't like their choice then fair enough as not everyone will agree whoever the choice is - but at least we will have a manager again and can get back to the main job in hand - trying to get back to the prem!
ask andy cryer whether they should shut down dialogue with the press and he will tell you they did that months ago,and also if the fans had not got wind of mcinley he would be our next manager so may i say to all the fans who expressed there feelngs about this appintment not going ahead WELL DONE it worked !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: The Rovers boards in the past just identified the manager they wanted and if available they went out and got him with the minimum of fuss and without all the media glare and fan interaction that we are seeing today. Bolton seem to have done exactly what the Rovers used to do, got their man quickly and quietly and are read to move on with their new manager. Rovers board should have done the same. They have people on the board who know how this works (even if Shebby doesn't have a clue) and they should have been 'guiding' the appointment process for the owners. Maybe they were not allowed to participate, we will never know, but what we are left with now is a right royal mess. Rovers should shut down the dialogue with the media now, offer no comment on any speculation and go and get the next manager now. They can then present him as soon as possible as a 'fait accompli' to the waiting press and fans. If some fans don't like their choice then fair enough as not everyone will agree whoever the choice is - but at least we will have a manager again and can get back to the main job in hand - trying to get back to the prem![/p][/quote]ask andy cryer whether they should shut down dialogue with the press and he will tell you they did that months ago,and also if the fans had not got wind of mcinley he would be our next manager so may i say to all the fans who expressed there feelngs about this appintment not going ahead WELL DONE it worked !!!!!!!!!!!!!! benal13

10:56am Wed 24 Oct 12

no ney never says...

If owen coyle had not been burnley's manager would you consider him?
He did the business for us and only left because flood could no longer put the money into the club which coyle had been promised because the credit crunch affected floods business.
Losing 2 players at the start of a season to broken legs and another collapsing on the pitch, in addition to having to cut the wage bill, meant coyle was always up against it at bolton. It was simply a bad time for anyone to be manager of bolton and could have been anyone in charge during that period.
Of course he'll always be judas for walking out on us, but with your squad to work with, i would be straight down the bookies with £50 on you to win this league if he is appointed.

Terry's of Burnley
If owen coyle had not been burnley's manager would you consider him? He did the business for us and only left because flood could no longer put the money into the club which coyle had been promised because the credit crunch affected floods business. Losing 2 players at the start of a season to broken legs and another collapsing on the pitch, in addition to having to cut the wage bill, meant coyle was always up against it at bolton. It was simply a bad time for anyone to be manager of bolton and could have been anyone in charge during that period. Of course he'll always be judas for walking out on us, but with your squad to work with, i would be straight down the bookies with £50 on you to win this league if he is appointed. Terry's of Burnley no ney never

10:57am Wed 24 Oct 12

Justjes says...

philmoulden wrote:
Do not patronise the Rovers fans , playing childish games with us shebby and black , i feel your stupid move for mckinlay was a ploy to get fans to think that we might as well keep black , now go and get a real football manager , you are pathetic sheddy , a clown trying kidology with the SUPPORTERS .
I agree. This could turn out as shabby thing saying Oh well it to late in the season now to look, we'll leave black in the bosses seat.....
Venkys out
[quote][p][bold]philmoulden[/bold] wrote: Do not patronise the Rovers fans , playing childish games with us shebby and black , i feel your stupid move for mckinlay was a ploy to get fans to think that we might as well keep black , now go and get a real football manager , you are pathetic sheddy , a clown trying kidology with the SUPPORTERS .[/p][/quote]I agree. This could turn out as shabby thing saying Oh well it to late in the season now to look, we'll leave black in the bosses seat..... Venkys out Justjes

11:07am Wed 24 Oct 12

drunken donut says...

If we still had John Williams at the helm we would now have a manager in place, all that committees achieve is to make a decision that no one really wants. Whilst I agree that the fans should not be allowed to have a hand in the selection process, their voices should be heard due to Venky's past history in trying to run a football club. You can understand the fans cynicism given their past record.
If we still had John Williams at the helm we would now have a manager in place, all that committees achieve is to make a decision that no one really wants. Whilst I agree that the fans should not be allowed to have a hand in the selection process, their voices should be heard due to Venky's past history in trying to run a football club. You can understand the fans cynicism given their past record. drunken donut

11:13am Wed 24 Oct 12

Gaz M says...

Rovers 1495 wrote:
"but Rovers are believed to be examining ways of providing a stop-gap until Solskjaer is available"

So has he been contacted ? Has he replied ? Have his club knocked the request into touch ? What does this phrase actually mean ?
Just more smoke and mirrors from the club I suspect.
[quote][p][bold]Rovers 1495[/bold] wrote: "but Rovers are believed to be examining ways of providing a stop-gap until Solskjaer is available" So has he been contacted ? Has he replied ? Have his club knocked the request into touch ? What does this phrase actually mean ?[/p][/quote]Just more smoke and mirrors from the club I suspect. Gaz M

11:25am Wed 24 Oct 12

A Darener says...

Black says....." Without doubt I am out of the process, there is no point in me being involved in it.”

So there we have it in black and white... Black IS our new manager!
Black says....." Without doubt I am out of the process, there is no point in me being involved in it.” So there we have it in black and white... Black IS our new manager! A Darener

11:30am Wed 24 Oct 12

A Rover 45 years and over says...

The comments in this article by Shebby Singh have helped to calm my anger at the present situation. OGS would get my full support. But they must get their finger out and locate their man with urgency. They have been far too slow in pinning down the right guy. If they get knocked back they must move on to the next one quickly and not waste time on trying to sprise coaches away from their clubs who don't want to let them go. Wake up rovers and get a good manager soon. OGS would be worth waiting for we just need Eric to get some results in the meantime. Come on Eric you have improved the defence now get the flair players involved that are sat on the bench and create some chances,
The comments in this article by Shebby Singh have helped to calm my anger at the present situation. OGS would get my full support. But they must get their finger out and locate their man with urgency. They have been far too slow in pinning down the right guy. If they get knocked back they must move on to the next one quickly and not waste time on trying to sprise coaches away from their clubs who don't want to let them go. Wake up rovers and get a good manager soon. OGS would be worth waiting for we just need Eric to get some results in the meantime. Come on Eric you have improved the defence now get the flair players involved that are sat on the bench and create some chances, A Rover 45 years and over

11:44am Wed 24 Oct 12

greenscreener says...

A Darener wrote:
Black says....." Without doubt I am out of the process, there is no point in me being involved in it.”

So there we have it in black and white... Black IS our new manager!
Hmmm,I saw the interview on Sky sports that these quotes are lifted from.

Eric Black was explaining he was not part of the 'selection' process, he never said he was out of the 'comtest' to be the next manager.
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Black says....." Without doubt I am out of the process, there is no point in me being involved in it.” So there we have it in black and white... Black IS our new manager![/p][/quote]Hmmm,I saw the interview on Sky sports that these quotes are lifted from. Eric Black was explaining he was not part of the 'selection' process, he never said he was out of the 'comtest' to be the next manager. greenscreener

11:45am Wed 24 Oct 12

Only1Garner says...

Surely even Venky's can see what a mistake it is to give the managers job to a coach, and if they have been watching Allardyce's career since they gave him the boot, what a mistake it was to sack him. They must conclude then that nothing but an experienced manager is required, where Singh gets the notion that he will get the fans back on side by giving the job to an ex player and any ex player it would seem, god only knows.
The only ex player I would like to see back is Tugay, with an experienced no 2 at his side, Ewood would be rocking if he turned up, but I still think it would be one hell of a gmble.
Surely even Venky's can see what a mistake it is to give the managers job to a coach, and if they have been watching Allardyce's career since they gave him the boot, what a mistake it was to sack him. They must conclude then that nothing but an experienced manager is required, where Singh gets the notion that he will get the fans back on side by giving the job to an ex player and any ex player it would seem, god only knows. The only ex player I would like to see back is Tugay, with an experienced no 2 at his side, Ewood would be rocking if he turned up, but I still think it would be one hell of a gmble. Only1Garner

11:48am Wed 24 Oct 12

moh says...

Jack Herer wrote:
dangerous dave wrote: As if the club is not in enough turmoil then you read the article in yesterdays LT about Colin Hendry. Were are the hallmarks of integrity, honesty and family values that Jack Walker/Williams promoted whilst under their reign gone. Hendry a bankrupt owing thousands to innocent people, a liar and lucky (reading between the lines) not to have been charged with assault/beating continues to embarrass the club further. Ewood used to be filled with individuals and families passionate about their club no it is half filled with people with a bitter taste in their mouth about Kean and his cohorts. Its about time the likes of Shaw Agnew and Singh returned these values back to the club and its fans because if they dont the Rovers will fade into the abyss - its pointless talking about Mrs D - we never see or here from her and I think the Venkeys interpretation of the word 'value' is only in their 'value' packs of chicken legs and drum sticks. I for one will not return to Ewood until we see Keans cohorts disappear out of sight and the current board start to instill some of the family traditions of honesty and integrity back into the club. OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY VENKEYS
So you are holding out for new owners? Good luck, because no one wants us. They never did either, the Walker trust were desperate to sell us but no one wanted us. How many years till you are back at Ewood do you think? Are you looking forward to a hate filled existence as you rant in the meanwhile?
perhaps it may be an idea for some fans to start collecting monies and buy the club as you rightly say the club was on sale for many years and very few genuine people were interested.
[quote][p][bold]Jack Herer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: As if the club is not in enough turmoil then you read the article in yesterdays LT about Colin Hendry. Were are the hallmarks of integrity, honesty and family values that Jack Walker/Williams promoted whilst under their reign gone. Hendry a bankrupt owing thousands to innocent people, a liar and lucky (reading between the lines) not to have been charged with assault/beating continues to embarrass the club further. Ewood used to be filled with individuals and families passionate about their club no it is half filled with people with a bitter taste in their mouth about Kean and his cohorts. Its about time the likes of Shaw Agnew and Singh returned these values back to the club and its fans because if they dont the Rovers will fade into the abyss - its pointless talking about Mrs D - we never see or here from her and I think the Venkeys interpretation of the word 'value' is only in their 'value' packs of chicken legs and drum sticks. I for one will not return to Ewood until we see Keans cohorts disappear out of sight and the current board start to instill some of the family traditions of honesty and integrity back into the club. OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY VENKEYS[/p][/quote]So you are holding out for new owners? Good luck, because no one wants us. They never did either, the Walker trust were desperate to sell us but no one wanted us. How many years till you are back at Ewood do you think? Are you looking forward to a hate filled existence as you rant in the meanwhile?[/p][/quote]perhaps it may be an idea for some fans to start collecting monies and buy the club as you rightly say the club was on sale for many years and very few genuine people were interested. moh

11:49am Wed 24 Oct 12

Rovers 1495 says...

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11:49am Wed 24 Oct 12

French Rover says...

benal13 wrote:
French Rover wrote:
The Rovers boards in the past just identified the manager they wanted and if available they went out and got him with the minimum of fuss and without all the media glare and fan interaction that we are seeing today. Bolton seem to have done exactly what the Rovers used to do, got their man quickly and quietly and are read to move on with their new manager.

Rovers board should have done the same. They have people on the board who know how this works (even if Shebby doesn't have a clue) and they should have been 'guiding' the appointment process for the owners. Maybe they were not allowed to participate, we will never know, but what we are left with now is a right royal mess.

Rovers should shut down the dialogue with the media now, offer no comment on any speculation and go and get the next manager now.
They can then present him as soon as possible as a 'fait accompli' to the waiting press and fans. If some fans don't like their choice then fair enough as not everyone will agree whoever the choice is - but at least we will have a manager again and can get back to the main job in hand - trying to get back to the prem!
ask andy cryer whether they should shut down dialogue with the press and he will tell you they did that months ago,and also if the fans had not got wind of mcinley he would be our next manager so may i say to all the fans who expressed there feelngs about this appintment not going ahead WELL DONE it worked !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Since when have fans been able to influence a clubs decision about who they appoint? The fact that the Rovers board seems to have actually listened to the fans on this is part of the problem that every one keeps complaining about. They are weak and indecisive. The fact that we do not have the experience of a John Williams or Tom Finn at Ewood now to make fast and firm decisions is something we all miss I think. They would never have been swayed by the fans as to who they should or should not appoint. They would have known who would go down well with the fans yes, but they would have made sure that they got their choice and invariably it was always the right choice for the club. I am glad McKinlay isn't coming (is he?) but that should be down to the boards decision not the fans.
[quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: The Rovers boards in the past just identified the manager they wanted and if available they went out and got him with the minimum of fuss and without all the media glare and fan interaction that we are seeing today. Bolton seem to have done exactly what the Rovers used to do, got their man quickly and quietly and are read to move on with their new manager. Rovers board should have done the same. They have people on the board who know how this works (even if Shebby doesn't have a clue) and they should have been 'guiding' the appointment process for the owners. Maybe they were not allowed to participate, we will never know, but what we are left with now is a right royal mess. Rovers should shut down the dialogue with the media now, offer no comment on any speculation and go and get the next manager now. They can then present him as soon as possible as a 'fait accompli' to the waiting press and fans. If some fans don't like their choice then fair enough as not everyone will agree whoever the choice is - but at least we will have a manager again and can get back to the main job in hand - trying to get back to the prem![/p][/quote]ask andy cryer whether they should shut down dialogue with the press and he will tell you they did that months ago,and also if the fans had not got wind of mcinley he would be our next manager so may i say to all the fans who expressed there feelngs about this appintment not going ahead WELL DONE it worked !!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Since when have fans been able to influence a clubs decision about who they appoint? The fact that the Rovers board seems to have actually listened to the fans on this is part of the problem that every one keeps complaining about. They are weak and indecisive. The fact that we do not have the experience of a John Williams or Tom Finn at Ewood now to make fast and firm decisions is something we all miss I think. They would never have been swayed by the fans as to who they should or should not appoint. They would have known who would go down well with the fans yes, but they would have made sure that they got their choice and invariably it was always the right choice for the club. I am glad McKinlay isn't coming (is he?) but that should be down to the boards decision not the fans. French Rover

11:50am Wed 24 Oct 12

Jonny23 says...

I hate what is going one at Rovers more lies and more lies, I feel for the fans and when I was growing up Rovers where one of the best run clubs in the country and one of the most successful clubs in the Premiership and pains me to see what the idiots in charge are doing and I know Angew and Shaw want an expereinced manager not a yes man puppet like shebby and the venkys want wish the FA, Football league and FIFA look into this farce its gone on too long and it NEEDS TO STOP. If this was happening at Manchester United these idiots would of lost not only players they would of lost alot of the worldwide support and Sir Alex wouldnt do what they say and if they sacked him United Fans would cause a massive riot and would boycott all home games and I hope it never happens at OT. I hope that This mess gets sorted out soon its Not Good for the Club and the fans if the VENKYS AND CO No whats good for them SELL UP NOW AND GET OUT GET THE MESSAGE YOUR NO LONGER WELCOME AT EWOOD PARK PERIOD GO BACK TO PLUGGING CHICKENS
I hate what is going one at Rovers more lies and more lies, I feel for the fans and when I was growing up Rovers where one of the best run clubs in the country and one of the most successful clubs in the Premiership and pains me to see what the idiots in charge are doing and I know Angew and Shaw want an expereinced manager not a yes man puppet like shebby and the venkys want wish the FA, Football league and FIFA look into this farce its gone on too long and it NEEDS TO STOP. If this was happening at Manchester United these idiots would of lost not only players they would of lost alot of the worldwide support and Sir Alex wouldnt do what they say and if they sacked him United Fans would cause a massive riot and would boycott all home games and I hope it never happens at OT. I hope that This mess gets sorted out soon its Not Good for the Club and the fans if the VENKYS AND CO No whats good for them SELL UP NOW AND GET OUT GET THE MESSAGE YOUR NO LONGER WELCOME AT EWOOD PARK PERIOD GO BACK TO PLUGGING CHICKENS Jonny23

11:52am Wed 24 Oct 12

Dukes says...

shebby your a clown just get out or these protest will restart again.
shebby your a clown just get out or these protest will restart again. Dukes

11:55am Wed 24 Oct 12

YarkshahRover says...

John Williams could have taught him a thing or two.
John Williams could have taught him a thing or two. YarkshahRover

11:58am Wed 24 Oct 12

no ney never says...

Does this farce raise the question about exactly what constiutes fit and proper persons?

Terry's of Burnley
Does this farce raise the question about exactly what constiutes fit and proper persons? Terry's of Burnley no ney never

12:02pm Wed 24 Oct 12

A Darener says...

greenscreener wrote:
A Darener wrote:
Black says....." Without doubt I am out of the process, there is no point in me being involved in it.”

So there we have it in black and white... Black IS our new manager!
Hmmm,I saw the interview on Sky sports that these quotes are lifted from.

Eric Black was explaining he was not part of the 'selection' process, he never said he was out of the 'comtest' to be the next manager.
My point was, from experience of this regime, whatever comes out of Ewood Park think the opposite!
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Black says....." Without doubt I am out of the process, there is no point in me being involved in it.” So there we have it in black and white... Black IS our new manager![/p][/quote]Hmmm,I saw the interview on Sky sports that these quotes are lifted from. Eric Black was explaining he was not part of the 'selection' process, he never said he was out of the 'comtest' to be the next manager.[/p][/quote]My point was, from experience of this regime, whatever comes out of Ewood Park think the opposite! A Darener

12:08pm Wed 24 Oct 12

makaveli96 says...

jackmetickler wrote:
its a good job from the comments above it isnt down to the fans to pick a manager... TF whoever comes in is going to face the normal 'Riverside' pessimism.... its been one of the traits of our fans since I have been going since the 60's, but seems to have become a disease of late! But FFS give whomever it turns out to be a fighting chance..... or all your predictions of doom will be self fulfilling prophecies.
Real fans don't sit in the Riverside!

Its an old mans stand for the middle class.

The working class purists sit in the Blackburn end!

Venkys Out! Singh out! The agent who cannot be named out!
[quote][p][bold]jackmetickler[/bold] wrote: its a good job from the comments above it isnt down to the fans to pick a manager... TF whoever comes in is going to face the normal 'Riverside' pessimism.... its been one of the traits of our fans since I have been going since the 60's, but seems to have become a disease of late! But FFS give whomever it turns out to be a fighting chance..... or all your predictions of doom will be self fulfilling prophecies.[/p][/quote]Real fans don't sit in the Riverside! Its an old mans stand for the middle class. The working class purists sit in the Blackburn end! Venkys Out! Singh out! The agent who cannot be named out! makaveli96

12:08pm Wed 24 Oct 12

Riverside 7 says...

French Rover wrote:
benal13 wrote:
French Rover wrote:
The Rovers boards in the past just identified the manager they wanted and if available they went out and got him with the minimum of fuss and without all the media glare and fan interaction that we are seeing today. Bolton seem to have done exactly what the Rovers used to do, got their man quickly and quietly and are read to move on with their new manager.

Rovers board should have done the same. They have people on the board who know how this works (even if Shebby doesn't have a clue) and they should have been 'guiding' the appointment process for the owners. Maybe they were not allowed to participate, we will never know, but what we are left with now is a right royal mess.

Rovers should shut down the dialogue with the media now, offer no comment on any speculation and go and get the next manager now.
They can then present him as soon as possible as a 'fait accompli' to the waiting press and fans. If some fans don't like their choice then fair enough as not everyone will agree whoever the choice is - but at least we will have a manager again and can get back to the main job in hand - trying to get back to the prem!
ask andy cryer whether they should shut down dialogue with the press and he will tell you they did that months ago,and also if the fans had not got wind of mcinley he would be our next manager so may i say to all the fans who expressed there feelngs about this appintment not going ahead WELL DONE it worked !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Since when have fans been able to influence a clubs decision about who they appoint? The fact that the Rovers board seems to have actually listened to the fans on this is part of the problem that every one keeps complaining about. They are weak and indecisive. The fact that we do not have the experience of a John Williams or Tom Finn at Ewood now to make fast and firm decisions is something we all miss I think. They would never have been swayed by the fans as to who they should or should not appoint. They would have known who would go down well with the fans yes, but they would have made sure that they got their choice and invariably it was always the right choice for the club. I am glad McKinlay isn't coming (is he?) but that should be down to the boards decision not the fans.
Sorry FR but that is not correct.
I know for a fact that John Williams and Co were influenced by a fans survey before they appointed Paul Ince.
They were concerned that their own choice of Sam Allardyce would not be popular with the fans.
As a result they went for the up and coming candidate (who did not have all his coaching badges) instead of the experienced one who had earlier been on a shortist for the England job.
As we all know, Paul Ince was the wrong choice and as a club we were very lucky that we were able to go back to Sam Allardyce a few months later.
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: The Rovers boards in the past just identified the manager they wanted and if available they went out and got him with the minimum of fuss and without all the media glare and fan interaction that we are seeing today. Bolton seem to have done exactly what the Rovers used to do, got their man quickly and quietly and are read to move on with their new manager. Rovers board should have done the same. They have people on the board who know how this works (even if Shebby doesn't have a clue) and they should have been 'guiding' the appointment process for the owners. Maybe they were not allowed to participate, we will never know, but what we are left with now is a right royal mess. Rovers should shut down the dialogue with the media now, offer no comment on any speculation and go and get the next manager now. They can then present him as soon as possible as a 'fait accompli' to the waiting press and fans. If some fans don't like their choice then fair enough as not everyone will agree whoever the choice is - but at least we will have a manager again and can get back to the main job in hand - trying to get back to the prem![/p][/quote]ask andy cryer whether they should shut down dialogue with the press and he will tell you they did that months ago,and also if the fans had not got wind of mcinley he would be our next manager so may i say to all the fans who expressed there feelngs about this appintment not going ahead WELL DONE it worked !!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Since when have fans been able to influence a clubs decision about who they appoint? The fact that the Rovers board seems to have actually listened to the fans on this is part of the problem that every one keeps complaining about. They are weak and indecisive. The fact that we do not have the experience of a John Williams or Tom Finn at Ewood now to make fast and firm decisions is something we all miss I think. They would never have been swayed by the fans as to who they should or should not appoint. They would have known who would go down well with the fans yes, but they would have made sure that they got their choice and invariably it was always the right choice for the club. I am glad McKinlay isn't coming (is he?) but that should be down to the boards decision not the fans.[/p][/quote]Sorry FR but that is not correct. I know for a fact that John Williams and Co were influenced by a fans survey before they appointed Paul Ince. They were concerned that their own choice of Sam Allardyce would not be popular with the fans. As a result they went for the up and coming candidate (who did not have all his coaching badges) instead of the experienced one who had earlier been on a shortist for the England job. As we all know, Paul Ince was the wrong choice and as a club we were very lucky that we were able to go back to Sam Allardyce a few months later. Riverside 7

12:15pm Wed 24 Oct 12

1riversider says...

Shebby says don't react to rumours - well rumour has it that Shebby has a brain, and knows something about football!

Wake up Rovers fans, the man is a charlatan, buffoon, and allegedly a liar. What happened to all the big names who applied for this job - was that just a rumour too?

This shower are the most incompetent bunch who ever ran a football club. Having said that, with the Three Stooges in charge, Rovers have become a good comedy act. We are now the laughing stock of English football.

SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB NOW
Shebby says don't react to rumours - well rumour has it that Shebby has a brain, and knows something about football! Wake up Rovers fans, the man is a charlatan, buffoon, and allegedly a liar. What happened to all the big names who applied for this job - was that just a rumour too? This shower are the most incompetent bunch who ever ran a football club. Having said that, with the Three Stooges in charge, Rovers have become a good comedy act. We are now the laughing stock of English football. SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB NOW 1riversider

12:16pm Wed 24 Oct 12

greenscreener says...

A Darener wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
A Darener wrote:
Black says....." Without doubt I am out of the process, there is no point in me being involved in it.”

So there we have it in black and white... Black IS our new manager!
Hmmm,I saw the interview on Sky sports that these quotes are lifted from.

Eric Black was explaining he was not part of the 'selection' process, he never said he was out of the 'comtest' to be the next manager.
My point was, from experience of this regime, whatever comes out of Ewood Park think the opposite!
Wasn't disagreeing with you at all, and thats not a bad principle to follow thes days.

I was just pointing out that Black didn't say, and doesn't think, he's out of the race.
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Black says....." Without doubt I am out of the process, there is no point in me being involved in it.” So there we have it in black and white... Black IS our new manager![/p][/quote]Hmmm,I saw the interview on Sky sports that these quotes are lifted from. Eric Black was explaining he was not part of the 'selection' process, he never said he was out of the 'comtest' to be the next manager.[/p][/quote]My point was, from experience of this regime, whatever comes out of Ewood Park think the opposite![/p][/quote]Wasn't disagreeing with you at all, and thats not a bad principle to follow thes days. I was just pointing out that Black didn't say, and doesn't think, he's out of the race. greenscreener

12:20pm Wed 24 Oct 12

1952 rover says...

Dont forget everyone e mail shebby@rovers.co.uk Let him know what you think of his pathetic efforts to get a new manager in.
Dont forget everyone e mail shebby@rovers.co.uk Let him know what you think of his pathetic efforts to get a new manager in. 1952 rover

12:22pm Wed 24 Oct 12

RespectTheK-Dog says...

Don't mess about. Give the job to COLLIN HENDRY. He's been ticking all the right boxes lately: getting drunk, getting arrested. And standing about on the touchline offering no direction or input. It's what the team needs.

This club needs a hard drinking Scot who can successfully drink 14 pints and gamble ferociously with other people's life savings.

BLACK OUT

HENDRY IN

In the ORC we trust. Colin Hendry.
Don't mess about. Give the job to COLLIN HENDRY. He's been ticking all the right boxes lately: getting drunk, getting arrested. And standing about on the touchline offering no direction or input. It's what the team needs. This club needs a hard drinking Scot who can successfully drink 14 pints and gamble ferociously with other people's life savings. BLACK OUT HENDRY IN In the ORC we trust. Colin Hendry. RespectTheK-Dog

12:25pm Wed 24 Oct 12

CARover says...

Steve BB2 wrote:
roversok wrote:
“What I would like to do is appeal to the fans, do not react to rumours,” said Singh So you have not tried to get McKinlay then ? We will wait for OGS if he says he will come, other than that get a Manager in now Have BRFC interviewed anyone? Bolton and b*stards are nearer to getting a manager than us
Bolton already have a new manager and Burnley have been doing ok without one ! (unfortunately!)
We havent got one and are not doing well without one, so maybe the backroom staff are not that good. Maybe when we get a new man in then he can bring some competent staff into the club.
Sounds good in theory but will it happen or will we just get another coach to try their hand at management and fail again, like SK?
A combination of poor coaching poor fitness and in reality the squad assembled by SK is not that good

Friday begins week four with no manager or direction, same $hit different day

Whoever they appoint will have a lot of work to do to get promotion as it will be a do over and if not quickly lots of points to catch up to the top 3
[quote][p][bold]Steve BB2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roversok[/bold] wrote: “What I would like to do is appeal to the fans, do not react to rumours,” said Singh So you have not tried to get McKinlay then ? We will wait for OGS if he says he will come, other than that get a Manager in now Have BRFC interviewed anyone? Bolton and b*stards are nearer to getting a manager than us[/p][/quote]Bolton already have a new manager and Burnley have been doing ok without one ! (unfortunately!) We havent got one and are not doing well without one, so maybe the backroom staff are not that good. Maybe when we get a new man in then he can bring some competent staff into the club. Sounds good in theory but will it happen or will we just get another coach to try their hand at management and fail again, like SK?[/p][/quote]A combination of poor coaching poor fitness and in reality the squad assembled by SK is not that good Friday begins week four with no manager or direction, same $hit different day Whoever they appoint will have a lot of work to do to get promotion as it will be a do over and if not quickly lots of points to catch up to the top 3 CARover

12:26pm Wed 24 Oct 12

David Gunther says...

Its about time rovers sorted themselves out, bolton have done - lets get a decent manager in with experience and guts - Souness is my call
Its about time rovers sorted themselves out, bolton have done - lets get a decent manager in with experience and guts - Souness is my call David Gunther

12:28pm Wed 24 Oct 12

greenscreener says...

makaveli96 wrote:
jackmetickler wrote:
its a good job from the comments above it isnt down to the fans to pick a manager... TF whoever comes in is going to face the normal 'Riverside' pessimism.... its been one of the traits of our fans since I have been going since the 60's, but seems to have become a disease of late! But FFS give whomever it turns out to be a fighting chance..... or all your predictions of doom will be self fulfilling prophecies.
Real fans don't sit in the Riverside!

Its an old mans stand for the middle class.

The working class purists sit in the Blackburn end!

Venkys Out! Singh out! The agent who cannot be named out!
Real fans sit in the Bernabeu.
[quote][p][bold]makaveli96[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jackmetickler[/bold] wrote: its a good job from the comments above it isnt down to the fans to pick a manager... TF whoever comes in is going to face the normal 'Riverside' pessimism.... its been one of the traits of our fans since I have been going since the 60's, but seems to have become a disease of late! But FFS give whomever it turns out to be a fighting chance..... or all your predictions of doom will be self fulfilling prophecies.[/p][/quote]Real fans don't sit in the Riverside! Its an old mans stand for the middle class. The working class purists sit in the Blackburn end! Venkys Out! Singh out! The agent who cannot be named out![/p][/quote]Real fans sit in the Bernabeu. greenscreener

12:42pm Wed 24 Oct 12

French Rover says...

Riverside 7 wrote:
French Rover wrote:
benal13 wrote:
French Rover wrote:
The Rovers boards in the past just identified the manager they wanted and if available they went out and got him with the minimum of fuss and without all the media glare and fan interaction that we are seeing today. Bolton seem to have done exactly what the Rovers used to do, got their man quickly and quietly and are read to move on with their new manager.

Rovers board should have done the same. They have people on the board who know how this works (even if Shebby doesn't have a clue) and they should have been 'guiding' the appointment process for the owners. Maybe they were not allowed to participate, we will never know, but what we are left with now is a right royal mess.

Rovers should shut down the dialogue with the media now, offer no comment on any speculation and go and get the next manager now.
They can then present him as soon as possible as a 'fait accompli' to the waiting press and fans. If some fans don't like their choice then fair enough as not everyone will agree whoever the choice is - but at least we will have a manager again and can get back to the main job in hand - trying to get back to the prem!
ask andy cryer whether they should shut down dialogue with the press and he will tell you they did that months ago,and also if the fans had not got wind of mcinley he would be our next manager so may i say to all the fans who expressed there feelngs about this appintment not going ahead WELL DONE it worked !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Since when have fans been able to influence a clubs decision about who they appoint? The fact that the Rovers board seems to have actually listened to the fans on this is part of the problem that every one keeps complaining about. They are weak and indecisive. The fact that we do not have the experience of a John Williams or Tom Finn at Ewood now to make fast and firm decisions is something we all miss I think. They would never have been swayed by the fans as to who they should or should not appoint. They would have known who would go down well with the fans yes, but they would have made sure that they got their choice and invariably it was always the right choice for the club. I am glad McKinlay isn't coming (is he?) but that should be down to the boards decision not the fans.
Sorry FR but that is not correct.
I know for a fact that John Williams and Co were influenced by a fans survey before they appointed Paul Ince.
They were concerned that their own choice of Sam Allardyce would not be popular with the fans.
As a result they went for the up and coming candidate (who did not have all his coaching badges) instead of the experienced one who had earlier been on a shortist for the England job.
As we all know, Paul Ince was the wrong choice and as a club we were very lucky that we were able to go back to Sam Allardyce a few months later.
Maybe you are correct on that - though a bit surprised that they would be influenced by a fan survey - but if you are correct then that proves the point that I was making above - that a club should not appoint a manager just to please their fans. They should go ahead and make the appointment of the man they think is best for the job.
[quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: The Rovers boards in the past just identified the manager they wanted and if available they went out and got him with the minimum of fuss and without all the media glare and fan interaction that we are seeing today. Bolton seem to have done exactly what the Rovers used to do, got their man quickly and quietly and are read to move on with their new manager. Rovers board should have done the same. They have people on the board who know how this works (even if Shebby doesn't have a clue) and they should have been 'guiding' the appointment process for the owners. Maybe they were not allowed to participate, we will never know, but what we are left with now is a right royal mess. Rovers should shut down the dialogue with the media now, offer no comment on any speculation and go and get the next manager now. They can then present him as soon as possible as a 'fait accompli' to the waiting press and fans. If some fans don't like their choice then fair enough as not everyone will agree whoever the choice is - but at least we will have a manager again and can get back to the main job in hand - trying to get back to the prem![/p][/quote]ask andy cryer whether they should shut down dialogue with the press and he will tell you they did that months ago,and also if the fans had not got wind of mcinley he would be our next manager so may i say to all the fans who expressed there feelngs about this appintment not going ahead WELL DONE it worked !!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Since when have fans been able to influence a clubs decision about who they appoint? The fact that the Rovers board seems to have actually listened to the fans on this is part of the problem that every one keeps complaining about. They are weak and indecisive. The fact that we do not have the experience of a John Williams or Tom Finn at Ewood now to make fast and firm decisions is something we all miss I think. They would never have been swayed by the fans as to who they should or should not appoint. They would have known who would go down well with the fans yes, but they would have made sure that they got their choice and invariably it was always the right choice for the club. I am glad McKinlay isn't coming (is he?) but that should be down to the boards decision not the fans.[/p][/quote]Sorry FR but that is not correct. I know for a fact that John Williams and Co were influenced by a fans survey before they appointed Paul Ince. They were concerned that their own choice of Sam Allardyce would not be popular with the fans. As a result they went for the up and coming candidate (who did not have all his coaching badges) instead of the experienced one who had earlier been on a shortist for the England job. As we all know, Paul Ince was the wrong choice and as a club we were very lucky that we were able to go back to Sam Allardyce a few months later.[/p][/quote]Maybe you are correct on that - though a bit surprised that they would be influenced by a fan survey - but if you are correct then that proves the point that I was making above - that a club should not appoint a manager just to please their fans. They should go ahead and make the appointment of the man they think is best for the job. French Rover

12:44pm Wed 24 Oct 12

benal13 says...

Riverside 7 wrote:
French Rover wrote:
benal13 wrote:
French Rover wrote:
The Rovers boards in the past just identified the manager they wanted and if available they went out and got him with the minimum of fuss and without all the media glare and fan interaction that we are seeing today. Bolton seem to have done exactly what the Rovers used to do, got their man quickly and quietly and are read to move on with their new manager.

Rovers board should have done the same. They have people on the board who know how this works (even if Shebby doesn't have a clue) and they should have been 'guiding' the appointment process for the owners. Maybe they were not allowed to participate, we will never know, but what we are left with now is a right royal mess.

Rovers should shut down the dialogue with the media now, offer no comment on any speculation and go and get the next manager now.
They can then present him as soon as possible as a 'fait accompli' to the waiting press and fans. If some fans don't like their choice then fair enough as not everyone will agree whoever the choice is - but at least we will have a manager again and can get back to the main job in hand - trying to get back to the prem!
ask andy cryer whether they should shut down dialogue with the press and he will tell you they did that months ago,and also if the fans had not got wind of mcinley he would be our next manager so may i say to all the fans who expressed there feelngs about this appintment not going ahead WELL DONE it worked !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Since when have fans been able to influence a clubs decision about who they appoint? The fact that the Rovers board seems to have actually listened to the fans on this is part of the problem that every one keeps complaining about. They are weak and indecisive. The fact that we do not have the experience of a John Williams or Tom Finn at Ewood now to make fast and firm decisions is something we all miss I think. They would never have been swayed by the fans as to who they should or should not appoint. They would have known who would go down well with the fans yes, but they would have made sure that they got their choice and invariably it was always the right choice for the club. I am glad McKinlay isn't coming (is he?) but that should be down to the boards decision not the fans.
Sorry FR but that is not correct.
I know for a fact that John Williams and Co were influenced by a fans survey before they appointed Paul Ince.
They were concerned that their own choice of Sam Allardyce would not be popular with the fans.
As a result they went for the up and coming candidate (who did not have all his coaching badges) instead of the experienced one who had earlier been on a shortist for the England job.
As we all know, Paul Ince was the wrong choice and as a club we were very lucky that we were able to go back to Sam Allardyce a few months later.
quite right and there was a poll in the LT befor mark hughes was appointed in his favour as well, so mr williams also listend to the fans.but i would say the diference between then and now is like chalke and cheese or curry and fish and chips !!!!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: The Rovers boards in the past just identified the manager they wanted and if available they went out and got him with the minimum of fuss and without all the media glare and fan interaction that we are seeing today. Bolton seem to have done exactly what the Rovers used to do, got their man quickly and quietly and are read to move on with their new manager. Rovers board should have done the same. They have people on the board who know how this works (even if Shebby doesn't have a clue) and they should have been 'guiding' the appointment process for the owners. Maybe they were not allowed to participate, we will never know, but what we are left with now is a right royal mess. Rovers should shut down the dialogue with the media now, offer no comment on any speculation and go and get the next manager now. They can then present him as soon as possible as a 'fait accompli' to the waiting press and fans. If some fans don't like their choice then fair enough as not everyone will agree whoever the choice is - but at least we will have a manager again and can get back to the main job in hand - trying to get back to the prem![/p][/quote]ask andy cryer whether they should shut down dialogue with the press and he will tell you they did that months ago,and also if the fans had not got wind of mcinley he would be our next manager so may i say to all the fans who expressed there feelngs about this appintment not going ahead WELL DONE it worked !!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Since when have fans been able to influence a clubs decision about who they appoint? The fact that the Rovers board seems to have actually listened to the fans on this is part of the problem that every one keeps complaining about. They are weak and indecisive. The fact that we do not have the experience of a John Williams or Tom Finn at Ewood now to make fast and firm decisions is something we all miss I think. They would never have been swayed by the fans as to who they should or should not appoint. They would have known who would go down well with the fans yes, but they would have made sure that they got their choice and invariably it was always the right choice for the club. I am glad McKinlay isn't coming (is he?) but that should be down to the boards decision not the fans.[/p][/quote]Sorry FR but that is not correct. I know for a fact that John Williams and Co were influenced by a fans survey before they appointed Paul Ince. They were concerned that their own choice of Sam Allardyce would not be popular with the fans. As a result they went for the up and coming candidate (who did not have all his coaching badges) instead of the experienced one who had earlier been on a shortist for the England job. As we all know, Paul Ince was the wrong choice and as a club we were very lucky that we were able to go back to Sam Allardyce a few months later.[/p][/quote]quite right and there was a poll in the LT befor mark hughes was appointed in his favour as well, so mr williams also listend to the fans.but i would say the diference between then and now is like chalke and cheese or curry and fish and chips !!!!!!!!!!! benal13

12:50pm Wed 24 Oct 12

peely says...

greenscreener wrote:
makaveli96 wrote:
jackmetickler wrote:
its a good job from the comments above it isnt down to the fans to pick a manager... TF whoever comes in is going to face the normal 'Riverside' pessimism.... its been one of the traits of our fans since I have been going since the 60's, but seems to have become a disease of late! But FFS give whomever it turns out to be a fighting chance..... or all your predictions of doom will be self fulfilling prophecies.
Real fans don't sit in the Riverside!

Its an old mans stand for the middle class.

The working class purists sit in the Blackburn end!

Venkys Out! Singh out! The agent who cannot be named out!
Real fans sit in the Bernabeu.
Real fans stand in t'enclosure !
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]makaveli96[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jackmetickler[/bold] wrote: its a good job from the comments above it isnt down to the fans to pick a manager... TF whoever comes in is going to face the normal 'Riverside' pessimism.... its been one of the traits of our fans since I have been going since the 60's, but seems to have become a disease of late! But FFS give whomever it turns out to be a fighting chance..... or all your predictions of doom will be self fulfilling prophecies.[/p][/quote]Real fans don't sit in the Riverside! Its an old mans stand for the middle class. The working class purists sit in the Blackburn end! Venkys Out! Singh out! The agent who cannot be named out![/p][/quote]Real fans sit in the Bernabeu.[/p][/quote]Real fans stand in t'enclosure ! peely

12:50pm Wed 24 Oct 12

A Darener says...

Apart from a general consensus that the fans would welcome OGS they are not trying to tell Shebby who to appoint, just trying to get an EXPERIENCED manager in. Whoever that may be.
Apart from a general consensus that the fans would welcome OGS they are not trying to tell Shebby who to appoint, just trying to get an EXPERIENCED manager in. Whoever that may be. A Darener

12:54pm Wed 24 Oct 12

benal13 says...

French Rover wrote:
Riverside 7 wrote:
French Rover wrote:
benal13 wrote:
French Rover wrote:
The Rovers boards in the past just identified the manager they wanted and if available they went out and got him with the minimum of fuss and without all the media glare and fan interaction that we are seeing today. Bolton seem to have done exactly what the Rovers used to do, got their man quickly and quietly and are read to move on with their new manager.

Rovers board should have done the same. They have people on the board who know how this works (even if Shebby doesn't have a clue) and they should have been 'guiding' the appointment process for the owners. Maybe they were not allowed to participate, we will never know, but what we are left with now is a right royal mess.

Rovers should shut down the dialogue with the media now, offer no comment on any speculation and go and get the next manager now.
They can then present him as soon as possible as a 'fait accompli' to the waiting press and fans. If some fans don't like their choice then fair enough as not everyone will agree whoever the choice is - but at least we will have a manager again and can get back to the main job in hand - trying to get back to the prem!
ask andy cryer whether they should shut down dialogue with the press and he will tell you they did that months ago,and also if the fans had not got wind of mcinley he would be our next manager so may i say to all the fans who expressed there feelngs about this appintment not going ahead WELL DONE it worked !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Since when have fans been able to influence a clubs decision about who they appoint? The fact that the Rovers board seems to have actually listened to the fans on this is part of the problem that every one keeps complaining about. They are weak and indecisive. The fact that we do not have the experience of a John Williams or Tom Finn at Ewood now to make fast and firm decisions is something we all miss I think. They would never have been swayed by the fans as to who they should or should not appoint. They would have known who would go down well with the fans yes, but they would have made sure that they got their choice and invariably it was always the right choice for the club. I am glad McKinlay isn't coming (is he?) but that should be down to the boards decision not the fans.
Sorry FR but that is not correct.
I know for a fact that John Williams and Co were influenced by a fans survey before they appointed Paul Ince.
They were concerned that their own choice of Sam Allardyce would not be popular with the fans.
As a result they went for the up and coming candidate (who did not have all his coaching badges) instead of the experienced one who had earlier been on a shortist for the England job.
As we all know, Paul Ince was the wrong choice and as a club we were very lucky that we were able to go back to Sam Allardyce a few months later.
Maybe you are correct on that - though a bit surprised that they would be influenced by a fan survey - but if you are correct then that proves the point that I was making above - that a club should not appoint a manager just to please their fans. They should go ahead and make the appointment of the man they think is best for the job.
pleasing the fans has to be a big part of any football club for gods sake,if they employ someone as manager when they know 99%of the fans dont want him would be stupid or would it FR ?
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: The Rovers boards in the past just identified the manager they wanted and if available they went out and got him with the minimum of fuss and without all the media glare and fan interaction that we are seeing today. Bolton seem to have done exactly what the Rovers used to do, got their man quickly and quietly and are read to move on with their new manager. Rovers board should have done the same. They have people on the board who know how this works (even if Shebby doesn't have a clue) and they should have been 'guiding' the appointment process for the owners. Maybe they were not allowed to participate, we will never know, but what we are left with now is a right royal mess. Rovers should shut down the dialogue with the media now, offer no comment on any speculation and go and get the next manager now. They can then present him as soon as possible as a 'fait accompli' to the waiting press and fans. If some fans don't like their choice then fair enough as not everyone will agree whoever the choice is - but at least we will have a manager again and can get back to the main job in hand - trying to get back to the prem![/p][/quote]ask andy cryer whether they should shut down dialogue with the press and he will tell you they did that months ago,and also if the fans had not got wind of mcinley he would be our next manager so may i say to all the fans who expressed there feelngs about this appintment not going ahead WELL DONE it worked !!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Since when have fans been able to influence a clubs decision about who they appoint? The fact that the Rovers board seems to have actually listened to the fans on this is part of the problem that every one keeps complaining about. They are weak and indecisive. The fact that we do not have the experience of a John Williams or Tom Finn at Ewood now to make fast and firm decisions is something we all miss I think. They would never have been swayed by the fans as to who they should or should not appoint. They would have known who would go down well with the fans yes, but they would have made sure that they got their choice and invariably it was always the right choice for the club. I am glad McKinlay isn't coming (is he?) but that should be down to the boards decision not the fans.[/p][/quote]Sorry FR but that is not correct. I know for a fact that John Williams and Co were influenced by a fans survey before they appointed Paul Ince. They were concerned that their own choice of Sam Allardyce would not be popular with the fans. As a result they went for the up and coming candidate (who did not have all his coaching badges) instead of the experienced one who had earlier been on a shortist for the England job. As we all know, Paul Ince was the wrong choice and as a club we were very lucky that we were able to go back to Sam Allardyce a few months later.[/p][/quote]Maybe you are correct on that - though a bit surprised that they would be influenced by a fan survey - but if you are correct then that proves the point that I was making above - that a club should not appoint a manager just to please their fans. They should go ahead and make the appointment of the man they think is best for the job.[/p][/quote]pleasing the fans has to be a big part of any football club for gods sake,if they employ someone as manager when they know 99%of the fans dont want him would be stupid or would it FR ? benal13

1:00pm Wed 24 Oct 12

FannyTickler says...

Jack Herer wrote:
Ryanb74 wrote:
Been reading a lot of toss in the papers about Shabby wanting a young manager to mould into "the next Mourinho". How does this work then? What experience does this man to mould anyone into anything? And why is he photographed in training kit with his initials on? What is this self-felating no mark doing anywhere near the training ground?
Jesus we've got some moaning fans.

"He's got his initials on his top". "He said this". "He said that". "He looked at me this way".

Stop acting like little babies eh. Burnley fans must be laughing their **** off at how pathetic it still is.
You wouldn't believe how much.
[quote][p][bold]Jack Herer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ryanb74[/bold] wrote: Been reading a lot of toss in the papers about Shabby wanting a young manager to mould into "the next Mourinho". How does this work then? What experience does this man to mould anyone into anything? And why is he photographed in training kit with his initials on? What is this self-felating no mark doing anywhere near the training ground?[/p][/quote]Jesus we've got some moaning fans. "He's got his initials on his top". "He said this". "He said that". "He looked at me this way". Stop acting like little babies eh. Burnley fans must be laughing their **** off at how pathetic it still is.[/p][/quote]You wouldn't believe how much. FannyTickler

1:17pm Wed 24 Oct 12

carlmc1 says...

I guess we need to know if OGS is really an option in terms of is he interested and can we really get him? In my opinion too many things will interfere with a real manager. By that, I am fairly sure signings and possibly even team selection, have no reallyt been down to the manager since we were lumbered with Venky's. I feel that is the real reason we have gone for the likes of McKinlay. It is more likely that he could be manipulated, as he would be elevated from not mark at Fulham to Manager at Rovers. That would come with a price and that price is do as we say.

A complete changes of direction would have to be in placein order to persuade Ole to take the job, as I am sure he would want to manage the team in the traditional way and manage the transfers that way too. If the club are serious about promotion and moving forward, then this change of direction need to take place and quickly.

If we have to wait a month, then the big issue would be the manager in the meantime. Some people have mentioned Tony Parkes, but I feel thats a heart, not a head thing, as he has been out of the game for so long. I'm not covinced it would happen, but Flitcroft and Jansen, could do it, with the reward of a permanent role at the club, if the the temporary appoinitment works. A permanent role along the lines of what Hendry does, as he would surely get his marching orders once the new manager is appointed.
I guess we need to know if OGS is really an option in terms of is he interested and can we really get him? In my opinion too many things will interfere with a real manager. By that, I am fairly sure signings and possibly even team selection, have no reallyt been down to the manager since we were lumbered with Venky's. I feel that is the real reason we have gone for the likes of McKinlay. It is more likely that he could be manipulated, as he would be elevated from not mark at Fulham to Manager at Rovers. That would come with a price and that price is do as we say. A complete changes of direction would have to be in placein order to persuade Ole to take the job, as I am sure he would want to manage the team in the traditional way and manage the transfers that way too. If the club are serious about promotion and moving forward, then this change of direction need to take place and quickly. If we have to wait a month, then the big issue would be the manager in the meantime. Some people have mentioned Tony Parkes, but I feel thats a heart, not a head thing, as he has been out of the game for so long. I'm not covinced it would happen, but Flitcroft and Jansen, could do it, with the reward of a permanent role at the club, if the the temporary appoinitment works. A permanent role along the lines of what Hendry does, as he would surely get his marching orders once the new manager is appointed. carlmc1

1:18pm Wed 24 Oct 12

burnleyglentoran says...

Jack Herer wrote:
Ryanb74 wrote:
Been reading a lot of toss in the papers about Shabby wanting a young manager to mould into "the next Mourinho". How does this work then? What experience does this man to mould anyone into anything? And why is he photographed in training kit with his initials on? What is this self-felating no mark doing anywhere near the training ground?
Jesus we've got some moaning fans.

"He's got his initials on his top". "He said this". "He said that". "He looked at me this way".

Stop acting like little babies eh. Burnley fans must be laughing their **** off at how pathetic it still is.
Its not just us pal!

This morning the presenter on Talksport burst out laughing when he was reporting that Shabby Singh was calling for more patience, from the Bol-Ewood faithful, in your search for a manager!!!!

BRKFC - JUST A HORSE BOTHERING LAUGHING STOCK NEAR SHADSWORTH.


AUSTIN FOR ENGLAND
[quote][p][bold]Jack Herer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ryanb74[/bold] wrote: Been reading a lot of toss in the papers about Shabby wanting a young manager to mould into "the next Mourinho". How does this work then? What experience does this man to mould anyone into anything? And why is he photographed in training kit with his initials on? What is this self-felating no mark doing anywhere near the training ground?[/p][/quote]Jesus we've got some moaning fans. "He's got his initials on his top". "He said this". "He said that". "He looked at me this way". Stop acting like little babies eh. Burnley fans must be laughing their **** off at how pathetic it still is.[/p][/quote]Its not just us pal! This morning the presenter on Talksport burst out laughing when he was reporting that Shabby Singh was calling for more patience, from the Bol-Ewood faithful, in your search for a manager!!!! BRKFC - JUST A HORSE BOTHERING LAUGHING STOCK NEAR SHADSWORTH. AUSTIN FOR ENGLAND burnleyglentoran

1:24pm Wed 24 Oct 12

Red Toupee says...

The club is on the brink of bankruptcy thanks to the chicken farmers bleeding every last resource from it. Don't be too surprised if the job goes to Eric Black. They cannot afford anyone else. They are not interested in the town, the fans, anything except lining their pockets. Once the last drop has gone and the chicken farmers gone with it, then there is a chance of progress. Until then, don't get too optimistic.
The club is on the brink of bankruptcy thanks to the chicken farmers bleeding every last resource from it. Don't be too surprised if the job goes to Eric Black. They cannot afford anyone else. They are not interested in the town, the fans, anything except lining their pockets. Once the last drop has gone and the chicken farmers gone with it, then there is a chance of progress. Until then, don't get too optimistic. Red Toupee

1:31pm Wed 24 Oct 12

mudshark says...

no2s shoved up to number 1s have never worked, ie, hartford, kidd ,kean, speed up the search by eliminating any no 2s
no2s shoved up to number 1s have never worked, ie, hartford, kidd ,kean, speed up the search by eliminating any no 2s mudshark

1:32pm Wed 24 Oct 12

bornindarwenliveinnottm says...

Paul Jewell anyone? Got both Bradford and Wigan promoted to the premier league so has the experience. Not the most exciting prospect I know, but he';s a proper manager who we can get behind. He's out of work as from today so no compensation and I'm sure he'd jump at the chance of working closer to home with a squad capbable of pushing for promotion. Go get in Shebby!
Paul Jewell anyone? Got both Bradford and Wigan promoted to the premier league so has the experience. Not the most exciting prospect I know, but he';s a proper manager who we can get behind. He's out of work as from today so no compensation and I'm sure he'd jump at the chance of working closer to home with a squad capbable of pushing for promotion. Go get in Shebby! bornindarwenliveinnottm

1:34pm Wed 24 Oct 12

French Rover says...

Benal13 said - pleasing the fans has to be a big part of any football club for gods sake,if they employ someone as manager when they know 99%of the fans dont want him would be stupid or would it FR ?

Yes it would be silly to deliberately select a manager who they knew 99% of the fans did not want......but that is a pretty unrealistic scenario you mention to try and make your point as that would never in reality happen would it. Experienced board members at any football club would select a manager on his merits not his popularity - though that would be a part of their consideration.
Benal13 said - pleasing the fans has to be a big part of any football club for gods sake,if they employ someone as manager when they know 99%of the fans dont want him would be stupid or would it FR ? Yes it would be silly to deliberately select a manager who they knew 99% of the fans did not want......but that is a pretty unrealistic scenario you mention to try and make your point as that would never in reality happen would it. Experienced board members at any football club would select a manager on his merits not his popularity - though that would be a part of their consideration. French Rover

1:37pm Wed 24 Oct 12

mudshark says...

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http://www.goal.com/ en-india/news/137/en gland/2012/10/22/346 9352/the-pressure-go t-to-steve-kean-blac kburn-rovers-co-owne r?source=breakingnew s this is what venkys think of the fans mudshark

1:39pm Wed 24 Oct 12

Gazzrover says...

I would have Souness back , no probs , a real no nonsense guy with a winning mentality but sadly he wouldnt put up with these clowns running the show , hed quit within a week ,
I would have Souness back , no probs , a real no nonsense guy with a winning mentality but sadly he wouldnt put up with these clowns running the show , hed quit within a week , Gazzrover

1:53pm Wed 24 Oct 12

Marky mark says...

I still don't understand the set up a rovers. Who is actually in charge of making the decisions. Is shebby just an advisor or more involved with hire and fire? What is the attraction of hiring a coach and not manager , what has happened to short list of managers that have shown interest, have they withdrawn due to interfering influences.

This looks total unprofessional and highlights the mess the club is in. I fear the worst and is it any wonder.
I still don't understand the set up a rovers. Who is actually in charge of making the decisions. Is shebby just an advisor or more involved with hire and fire? What is the attraction of hiring a coach and not manager , what has happened to short list of managers that have shown interest, have they withdrawn due to interfering influences. This looks total unprofessional and highlights the mess the club is in. I fear the worst and is it any wonder. Marky mark

1:55pm Wed 24 Oct 12

harwoodblue says...

At least Black has come to terms with the fact that it wont be him, We need an experienced manager + his own team to replace anyone Kean brought to the club. Shebby keeps going on about young Mourinho style managers that have fresh ideas, but has he ever spoken to McKinley or Sherwood face to face, does he know what their ideas are, i dowt it very much, he will have spoken to his chums in the media and asked them who to shortlist. Even if they just said to McCarthey heres a big fat cheque and a 1 year deal, get us promotion then your off. The when we are a premiership team again we will get better quality applicants. It would save us a fortune in the long run.
At least Black has come to terms with the fact that it wont be him, We need an experienced manager + his own team to replace anyone Kean brought to the club. Shebby keeps going on about young Mourinho style managers that have fresh ideas, but has he ever spoken to McKinley or Sherwood face to face, does he know what their ideas are, i dowt it very much, he will have spoken to his chums in the media and asked them who to shortlist. Even if they just said to McCarthey heres a big fat cheque and a 1 year deal, get us promotion then your off. The when we are a premiership team again we will get better quality applicants. It would save us a fortune in the long run. harwoodblue

2:04pm Wed 24 Oct 12

fishcake 75 says...

it goes from bad to worse, did sherwood and mckinlay apply for the job, if not why have you wasted 3 weeks chasing these people,you said you had world class managers applying for the post who are they, i think they were a figment of your imagination mr singh, tell us who they are or have the balls to appoint one of them and then fall on your sword if he fails or revel in the limelight if he succeeds.the whole of football is laughing at us do something and doit NOW
it goes from bad to worse, did sherwood and mckinlay apply for the job, if not why have you wasted 3 weeks chasing these people,you said you had world class managers applying for the post who are they, i think they were a figment of your imagination mr singh, tell us who they are or have the balls to appoint one of them and then fall on your sword if he fails or revel in the limelight if he succeeds.the whole of football is laughing at us do something and doit NOW fishcake 75

2:10pm Wed 24 Oct 12

benal13 says...

French Rover wrote:
Benal13 said - pleasing the fans has to be a big part of any football club for gods sake,if they employ someone as manager when they know 99%of the fans dont want him would be stupid or would it FR ?

Yes it would be silly to deliberately select a manager who they knew 99% of the fans did not want......but that is a pretty unrealistic scenario you mention to try and make your point as that would never in reality happen would it. Experienced board members at any football club would select a manager on his merits not his popularity - though that would be a part of their consideration.
how can that be an unrealistic senario its just happened with mcinley, the clowns have realised the fans didnt want him so they have moved on down there list of cheap options, keep up FR for gods sake.!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: Benal13 said - pleasing the fans has to be a big part of any football club for gods sake,if they employ someone as manager when they know 99%of the fans dont want him would be stupid or would it FR ? Yes it would be silly to deliberately select a manager who they knew 99% of the fans did not want......but that is a pretty unrealistic scenario you mention to try and make your point as that would never in reality happen would it. Experienced board members at any football club would select a manager on his merits not his popularity - though that would be a part of their consideration.[/p][/quote]how can that be an unrealistic senario its just happened with mcinley, the clowns have realised the fans didnt want him so they have moved on down there list of cheap options, keep up FR for gods sake.!!!!!! benal13

2:20pm Wed 24 Oct 12

Ronaldpetercooper says...

French Rover wrote:
Benal13 said - pleasing the fans has to be a big part of any football club for gods sake,if they employ someone as manager when they know 99%of the fans dont want him would be stupid or would it FR ? Yes it would be silly to deliberately select a manager who they knew 99% of the fans did not want......but that is a pretty unrealistic scenario you mention to try and make your point as that would never in reality happen would it. Experienced board members at any football club would select a manager on his merits not his popularity - though that would be a part of their consideration.
I just wonder if we, the fans, are right to want a say in who is to be the next manager. What is wrong with Mckinlay?
Who can say. Is it because of his alleged friendship with the last idiot. Has he really got the the same agent ie Anderson. With a half decent press man or P R we could have been told.
Sadly a good chairman and his board will always know who to go for and even then their is no guarantee of success.
I have a feeling that Mckinlay will one day prove us all wrong and I am afraid that we will settle for a no hoper. Yes I think Black will get it by default and that would be a big mistake.
I still think that someone like Hill or Curbishley could do a good job but could be wrong. Whoever is chosen it will be a gamble and we must all play a part in giving our full support.
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: Benal13 said - pleasing the fans has to be a big part of any football club for gods sake,if they employ someone as manager when they know 99%of the fans dont want him would be stupid or would it FR ? Yes it would be silly to deliberately select a manager who they knew 99% of the fans did not want......but that is a pretty unrealistic scenario you mention to try and make your point as that would never in reality happen would it. Experienced board members at any football club would select a manager on his merits not his popularity - though that would be a part of their consideration.[/p][/quote]I just wonder if we, the fans, are right to want a say in who is to be the next manager. What is wrong with Mckinlay? Who can say. Is it because of his alleged friendship with the last idiot. Has he really got the the same agent ie Anderson. With a half decent press man or P R we could have been told. Sadly a good chairman and his board will always know who to go for and even then their is no guarantee of success. I have a feeling that Mckinlay will one day prove us all wrong and I am afraid that we will settle for a no hoper. Yes I think Black will get it by default and that would be a big mistake. I still think that someone like Hill or Curbishley could do a good job but could be wrong. Whoever is chosen it will be a gamble and we must all play a part in giving our full support. Ronaldpetercooper

2:22pm Wed 24 Oct 12

maggie-T says...

Agent black, keep your mouth shut, your going to undo all the good work agent kean did if your not careful, keep it zipped until your mission is complete,
Agent black, keep your mouth shut, your going to undo all the good work agent kean did if your not careful, keep it zipped until your mission is complete, maggie-T

2:31pm Wed 24 Oct 12

Bryan Douglas supporter says...

“We’re getting to a position now where in the next week or so a decision has to be made,” said Black...... You and me, mate! Hope you are booking Pickford's for your move out of Ewood, Eric.

Why is it taking so long to get a Manager and why are we looking at inexperienced pundits and First Team Coaches? Could it be that no decent Manager will come anywhere near us, or perhaps they don't like chicken or Indian food? The Ewood saga / soap opera continues - when will it end?
“We’re getting to a position now where in the next week or so a decision has to be made,” said Black...... You and me, mate! Hope you are booking Pickford's for your move out of Ewood, Eric. Why is it taking so long to get a Manager and why are we looking at inexperienced pundits and First Team Coaches? Could it be that no decent Manager will come anywhere near us, or perhaps they don't like chicken or Indian food? The Ewood saga / soap opera continues - when will it end? Bryan Douglas supporter

2:35pm Wed 24 Oct 12

FannyTickler says...

mudshark wrote:
http://www.goal.com/

en-india/news/137/en

gland/2012/10/22/346

9352/the-pressure-go

t-to-steve-kean-blac

kburn-rovers-co-owne

r?source=breakingnew

s

this is what venkys think of the fans
Oh my word. I would rather have the Chuckle Brothers running my club than this set of clowns. What a joke of a football club.
[quote][p][bold]mudshark[/bold] wrote: http://www.goal.com/ en-india/news/137/en gland/2012/10/22/346 9352/the-pressure-go t-to-steve-kean-blac kburn-rovers-co-owne r?source=breakingnew s this is what venkys think of the fans[/p][/quote]Oh my word. I would rather have the Chuckle Brothers running my club than this set of clowns. What a joke of a football club. FannyTickler

2:43pm Wed 24 Oct 12

Gaz M says...

YarkshahRover wrote:
John Williams could have taught him a thing or two.
I defy anyone to polish a t*rd !
[quote][p][bold]YarkshahRover[/bold] wrote: John Williams could have taught him a thing or two.[/p][/quote]I defy anyone to polish a t*rd ! Gaz M

2:43pm Wed 24 Oct 12

RUinsane says...

SSDD, Yaaaaaaaaaawn. No news then? thought not ZZZZZzzzzzzzzz
SSDD, Yaaaaaaaaaawn. No news then? thought not ZZZZZzzzzzzzzz RUinsane

2:57pm Wed 24 Oct 12

riversidefan says...

garydavies2304 wrote:
ewoodcow wrote:
I suspect, and this is largely down to Mullen and his merry men, that we will now see Black appointed initially as a long term temporary manager and then at some stage confirmed as manager.

I'm not saying that I would have been happy with McKinlay as manager but a small supporter base such as BRAG should not be able to leverage such influence over the choice of a manager to the extent that the Club changes its mind on a potential appointee. This further brings into focus the weak leadership and management at Rovers.

The people on here who are applauding Bolton for making a swift appointment would also have been moaning if Rover had appointed Freedman due to his relative lack of experience!!
just my thoughts fans cannot run a club
Given what the fans have had to endure since Sam was sacked, I think it is only correct that the fans or supporter groups opinions are taken into consideration to a certain degree. However, it is wrong to suggest supporter groups have too much influence, if that was the case K*#n would have been sacked last season. Personally I don't agree with BRAG's comment about Sherwood, but McKinlay's possible links with K*#n and/or his agent would be a concern.
[quote][p][bold]garydavies2304[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ewoodcow[/bold] wrote: I suspect, and this is largely down to Mullen and his merry men, that we will now see Black appointed initially as a long term temporary manager and then at some stage confirmed as manager. I'm not saying that I would have been happy with McKinlay as manager but a small supporter base such as BRAG should not be able to leverage such influence over the choice of a manager to the extent that the Club changes its mind on a potential appointee. This further brings into focus the weak leadership and management at Rovers. The people on here who are applauding Bolton for making a swift appointment would also have been moaning if Rover had appointed Freedman due to his relative lack of experience!![/p][/quote]just my thoughts fans cannot run a club[/p][/quote]Given what the fans have had to endure since Sam was sacked, I think it is only correct that the fans or supporter groups opinions are taken into consideration to a certain degree. However, it is wrong to suggest supporter groups have too much influence, if that was the case K*#n would have been sacked last season. Personally I don't agree with BRAG's comment about Sherwood, but McKinlay's possible links with K*#n and/or his agent would be a concern. riversidefan

2:58pm Wed 24 Oct 12

blueblooded says...

Don't be fooled by Singh's silky smooth tongue, fan discontentment will have been the least of his worries. Our Shebby believes he has what it takes to turn an inexperienced manager from coach to the next Mourinho and if we hadnt been turned down by both clubs, either Sherwood or McKinlay would be announced soon.

As it stands, Holloway is now the hot ticket of the day again.
Don't be fooled by Singh's silky smooth tongue, fan discontentment will have been the least of his worries. Our Shebby believes he has what it takes to turn an inexperienced manager from coach to the next Mourinho and if we hadnt been turned down by both clubs, either Sherwood or McKinlay would be announced soon. As it stands, Holloway is now the hot ticket of the day again. blueblooded

2:58pm Wed 24 Oct 12

A Darener says...

Gaz M wrote:
YarkshahRover wrote:
John Williams could have taught him a thing or two.
I defy anyone to polish a t*rd !
Mythbusters did!
[quote][p][bold]Gaz M[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YarkshahRover[/bold] wrote: John Williams could have taught him a thing or two.[/p][/quote]I defy anyone to polish a t*rd ![/p][/quote]Mythbusters did! A Darener

3:00pm Wed 24 Oct 12

A Darener says...

Anyway enough is enough! We are not going to get a manager before tonight's game so let's just turn our attention to winning the first of two very very important home games.

Get into em!!!
Good luck tonight!
Anyway enough is enough! We are not going to get a manager before tonight's game so let's just turn our attention to winning the first of two very very important home games. Get into em!!! Good luck tonight! A Darener

3:05pm Wed 24 Oct 12

French Rover says...

benal13 wrote:
French Rover wrote:
Benal13 said - pleasing the fans has to be a big part of any football club for gods sake,if they employ someone as manager when they know 99%of the fans dont want him would be stupid or would it FR ?

Yes it would be silly to deliberately select a manager who they knew 99% of the fans did not want......but that is a pretty unrealistic scenario you mention to try and make your point as that would never in reality happen would it. Experienced board members at any football club would select a manager on his merits not his popularity - though that would be a part of their consideration.
how can that be an unrealistic senario its just happened with mcinley, the clowns have realised the fans didnt want him so they have moved on down there list of cheap options, keep up FR for gods sake.!!!!!!
it wasn't and still isn't) 99%against McKinlay and you know it. The only manager in history who could illicit that much bad feeling would have to be Kean. And he is one in a million in every bad sense of the word. And you are still completely missing the point Benal13 about 'decent' club boards not appointing managers to appease the fans. All appointments should be made on the managers merit and the boards judgement. A sound board would not select an unpopular manager.
[quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: Benal13 said - pleasing the fans has to be a big part of any football club for gods sake,if they employ someone as manager when they know 99%of the fans dont want him would be stupid or would it FR ? Yes it would be silly to deliberately select a manager who they knew 99% of the fans did not want......but that is a pretty unrealistic scenario you mention to try and make your point as that would never in reality happen would it. Experienced board members at any football club would select a manager on his merits not his popularity - though that would be a part of their consideration.[/p][/quote]how can that be an unrealistic senario its just happened with mcinley, the clowns have realised the fans didnt want him so they have moved on down there list of cheap options, keep up FR for gods sake.!!!!!![/p][/quote]it wasn't and still isn't) 99%against McKinlay and you know it. The only manager in history who could illicit that much bad feeling would have to be Kean. And he is one in a million in every bad sense of the word. And you are still completely missing the point Benal13 about 'decent' club boards not appointing managers to appease the fans. All appointments should be made on the managers merit and the boards judgement. A sound board would not select an unpopular manager. French Rover

3:06pm Wed 24 Oct 12

French Rover says...

A Darener wrote:
Anyway enough is enough! We are not going to get a manager before tonight's game so let's just turn our attention to winning the first of two very very important home games.

Get into em!!!
Good luck tonight!
well said Darener.....you found that bottle of optimism then :)
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Anyway enough is enough! We are not going to get a manager before tonight's game so let's just turn our attention to winning the first of two very very important home games. Get into em!!! Good luck tonight![/p][/quote]well said Darener.....you found that bottle of optimism then :) French Rover

3:14pm Wed 24 Oct 12

Riverside 7 says...

mudshark wrote:
no2s shoved up to number 1s have never worked, ie, hartford, kidd ,kean, speed up the search by eliminating any no 2s
Kean was not even a number 2 at Rovers before he got the job - he was a number 3 behind Big Sam and Neil McDonald.

McKinlay is probably the same at Fulham ( a number 3) whilst Sherwood at Spurs is likely to be a number 4 or 5.

So why are we wasting time on the above when we need an experienced manager.
[quote][p][bold]mudshark[/bold] wrote: no2s shoved up to number 1s have never worked, ie, hartford, kidd ,kean, speed up the search by eliminating any no 2s[/p][/quote]Kean was not even a number 2 at Rovers before he got the job - he was a number 3 behind Big Sam and Neil McDonald. McKinlay is probably the same at Fulham ( a number 3) whilst Sherwood at Spurs is likely to be a number 4 or 5. So why are we wasting time on the above when we need an experienced manager. Riverside 7

3:23pm Wed 24 Oct 12

glp says...

"We need to generate an atmosphere at Blackburn that assists the players. That hasn’t happened for whatever reason, but if we don’t get it we are not moving forward. " well Mr Black I think the reason there is no atmosphere might be for the following reasons :
If we had owners who knew anything about running a football club, If we had a chairman and board of directors who knew what they were doing. If we had an experienced Manager, If we had some coaching staff who knew how to train football players, If we a squad of decent and fully fit players. If we had a full set of club sponsers. If we go back in time 2 years to when we had all that then we would have a stadium full of fans to create an Atmosphere.
"We need to generate an atmosphere at Blackburn that assists the players. That hasn’t happened for whatever reason, but if we don’t get it we are not moving forward. " well Mr Black I think the reason there is no atmosphere might be for the following reasons : If we had owners who knew anything about running a football club, If we had a chairman and board of directors who knew what they were doing. If we had an experienced Manager, If we had some coaching staff who knew how to train football players, If we a squad of decent and fully fit players. If we had a full set of club sponsers. If we go back in time 2 years to when we had all that then we would have a stadium full of fans to create an Atmosphere. glp

3:27pm Wed 24 Oct 12

Matt Newcastle says...

You sit down argue, debate fiercely even and then come up with an AGREED shortlist and leave the room agreeing to follow that protocol.

Some may not get totally what they want but thats life, and then you start at the top and work down.

Would appear to me that the three CLOWNS plus owners could not even get step 1 right four weeks ago

This surely highlights the complete and utter incompetence of the so called leaders of our beloved club.

Andy Cryer and your journalistic colleagues please do some investigative journalism and get quickly to the bottom of it and let us know what the ACTUAL situation is.
You sit down argue, debate fiercely even and then come up with an AGREED shortlist and leave the room agreeing to follow that protocol. Some may not get totally what they want but thats life, and then you start at the top and work down. Would appear to me that the three CLOWNS plus owners could not even get step 1 right four weeks ago This surely highlights the complete and utter incompetence of the so called leaders of our beloved club. Andy Cryer and your journalistic colleagues please do some investigative journalism and get quickly to the bottom of it and let us know what the ACTUAL situation is. Matt Newcastle

3:28pm Wed 24 Oct 12

A Darener says...

French Rover wrote:
A Darener wrote:
Anyway enough is enough! We are not going to get a manager before tonight's game so let's just turn our attention to winning the first of two very very important home games.

Get into em!!!
Good luck tonight!
well said Darener.....you found that bottle of optimism then :)
Yeh! I have half drunken it. So is it half full or half empty?
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Anyway enough is enough! We are not going to get a manager before tonight's game so let's just turn our attention to winning the first of two very very important home games. Get into em!!! Good luck tonight![/p][/quote]well said Darener.....you found that bottle of optimism then :)[/p][/quote]Yeh! I have half drunken it. So is it half full or half empty? A Darener

3:28pm Wed 24 Oct 12

FannyTickler says...

blueblooded wrote:
Don't be fooled by Singh's silky smooth tongue, fan discontentment will have been the least of his worries. Our Shebby believes he has what it takes to turn an inexperienced manager from coach to the next Mourinho and if we hadnt been turned down by both clubs, either Sherwood or McKinlay would be announced soon.

As it stands, Holloway is now the hot ticket of the day again.
Shebby Singh is obviously protecting his own position and aiming to retain as much influence as possible by recruiting another Class A muppet as manager.
[quote][p][bold]blueblooded[/bold] wrote: Don't be fooled by Singh's silky smooth tongue, fan discontentment will have been the least of his worries. Our Shebby believes he has what it takes to turn an inexperienced manager from coach to the next Mourinho and if we hadnt been turned down by both clubs, either Sherwood or McKinlay would be announced soon. As it stands, Holloway is now the hot ticket of the day again.[/p][/quote]Shebby Singh is obviously protecting his own position and aiming to retain as much influence as possible by recruiting another Class A muppet as manager. FannyTickler

3:31pm Wed 24 Oct 12

raflas says...

Q) Would any self respecting manager take orders from Shebby Singh?
Q) Could anyone work under Shebby Singh?

Why doesn't he just cut out the middle man and employ himself. It seems he wants to make all the decisions anyway, despite having no football experience apart from being a comedy pundit on ESPN. He is 66/1 with Victor Chandler - Get on!

No Leadership whatsoever - Our once great club is doomed.
Q) Would any self respecting manager take orders from Shebby Singh? Q) Could anyone work under Shebby Singh? Why doesn't he just cut out the middle man and employ himself. It seems he wants to make all the decisions anyway, despite having no football experience apart from being a comedy pundit on ESPN. He is 66/1 with Victor Chandler - Get on! No Leadership whatsoever - Our once great club is doomed. raflas

3:39pm Wed 24 Oct 12

RUinsane says...

Simon Grayson should be above Hooloway for me. He is just as good without the stupid comments. Bonus is he's an ex player and he gets his team to play decent football. OGS number one Grayson No2 and Holloway No3
Simon Grayson should be above Hooloway for me. He is just as good without the stupid comments. Bonus is he's an ex player and he gets his team to play decent football. OGS number one Grayson No2 and Holloway No3 RUinsane

3:46pm Wed 24 Oct 12

stick to football says...

Tugay with Souness would be the right choice. Tugay favours football Souness wont stand any fools. Some may get pinned to the wall so get your track suit off Shebby unless you are ready to run.

The more I see and hear of Venkys the more convinced I am that they dont have a clue and are being badly advised.

Shebby has burned his bridges as far as I am concerned he is a reincarnation of Venkys
Tugay with Souness would be the right choice. Tugay favours football Souness wont stand any fools. Some may get pinned to the wall so get your track suit off Shebby unless you are ready to run. The more I see and hear of Venkys the more convinced I am that they dont have a clue and are being badly advised. Shebby has burned his bridges as far as I am concerned he is a reincarnation of Venkys stick to football

3:55pm Wed 24 Oct 12

petergray says...

After a month I see the club has announced that there will be interviews soon for selecting a new manager.

What a jolly good idea shabby. .
After a month I see the club has announced that there will be interviews soon for selecting a new manager. What a jolly good idea shabby. . petergray

3:56pm Wed 24 Oct 12

FannyTickler says...

raflas wrote:
Q) Would any self respecting manager take orders from Shebby Singh?
Q) Could anyone work under Shebby Singh?

Why doesn't he just cut out the middle man and employ himself. It seems he wants to make all the decisions anyway, despite having no football experience apart from being a comedy pundit on ESPN. He is 66/1 with Victor Chandler - Get on!

No Leadership whatsoever - Our once great club is doomed.
Rumour has it that Shebby Singh went from comedy pundit on ESPN to Global Advisor at Blackburn Rovers after walking in on a steamy three-way between Madam Desai and the brothers Rao. Shebby holds all the cards now. If he wants a go at being manager he can.
[quote][p][bold]raflas[/bold] wrote: Q) Would any self respecting manager take orders from Shebby Singh? Q) Could anyone work under Shebby Singh? Why doesn't he just cut out the middle man and employ himself. It seems he wants to make all the decisions anyway, despite having no football experience apart from being a comedy pundit on ESPN. He is 66/1 with Victor Chandler - Get on! No Leadership whatsoever - Our once great club is doomed.[/p][/quote]Rumour has it that Shebby Singh went from comedy pundit on ESPN to Global Advisor at Blackburn Rovers after walking in on a steamy three-way between Madam Desai and the brothers Rao. Shebby holds all the cards now. If he wants a go at being manager he can. FannyTickler

3:59pm Wed 24 Oct 12

benal13 says...

French Rover wrote:
benal13 wrote:
French Rover wrote:
Benal13 said - pleasing the fans has to be a big part of any football club for gods sake,if they employ someone as manager when they know 99%of the fans dont want him would be stupid or would it FR ?

Yes it would be silly to deliberately select a manager who they knew 99% of the fans did not want......but that is a pretty unrealistic scenario you mention to try and make your point as that would never in reality happen would it. Experienced board members at any football club would select a manager on his merits not his popularity - though that would be a part of their consideration.
how can that be an unrealistic senario its just happened with mcinley, the clowns have realised the fans didnt want him so they have moved on down there list of cheap options, keep up FR for gods sake.!!!!!!
it wasn't and still isn't) 99%against McKinlay and you know it. The only manager in history who could illicit that much bad feeling would have to be Kean. And he is one in a million in every bad sense of the word. And you are still completely missing the point Benal13 about 'decent' club boards not appointing managers to appease the fans. All appointments should be made on the managers merit and the boards judgement. A sound board would not select an unpopular manager.
are you implying we have a sound board FR? to much cheap french wine and snails i think.
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: Benal13 said - pleasing the fans has to be a big part of any football club for gods sake,if they employ someone as manager when they know 99%of the fans dont want him would be stupid or would it FR ? Yes it would be silly to deliberately select a manager who they knew 99% of the fans did not want......but that is a pretty unrealistic scenario you mention to try and make your point as that would never in reality happen would it. Experienced board members at any football club would select a manager on his merits not his popularity - though that would be a part of their consideration.[/p][/quote]how can that be an unrealistic senario its just happened with mcinley, the clowns have realised the fans didnt want him so they have moved on down there list of cheap options, keep up FR for gods sake.!!!!!![/p][/quote]it wasn't and still isn't) 99%against McKinlay and you know it. The only manager in history who could illicit that much bad feeling would have to be Kean. And he is one in a million in every bad sense of the word. And you are still completely missing the point Benal13 about 'decent' club boards not appointing managers to appease the fans. All appointments should be made on the managers merit and the boards judgement. A sound board would not select an unpopular manager.[/p][/quote]are you implying we have a sound board FR? to much cheap french wine and snails i think. benal13

4:05pm Wed 24 Oct 12

mellorb&w says...

Bryan Douglas supporter wrote:
“We’re getting to a position now where in the next week or so a decision has to be made,” said Black...... You and me, mate! Hope you are booking Pickford's for your move out of Ewood, Eric.

Why is it taking so long to get a Manager and why are we looking at inexperienced pundits and First Team Coaches? Could it be that no decent Manager will come anywhere near us, or perhaps they don't like chicken or Indian food? The Ewood saga / soap opera continues - when will it end?
Can someone explain the this hatred towards Black. What exactly has he done to deserve it? To me he is a coach who was offered a job and took it. Is it his fault that he was hired by that scumbag Kean ? OK, we might not want him as manager but just don't understand the hatred.
[quote][p][bold]Bryan Douglas supporter[/bold] wrote: “We’re getting to a position now where in the next week or so a decision has to be made,” said Black...... You and me, mate! Hope you are booking Pickford's for your move out of Ewood, Eric. Why is it taking so long to get a Manager and why are we looking at inexperienced pundits and First Team Coaches? Could it be that no decent Manager will come anywhere near us, or perhaps they don't like chicken or Indian food? The Ewood saga / soap opera continues - when will it end?[/p][/quote]Can someone explain the this hatred towards Black. What exactly has he done to deserve it? To me he is a coach who was offered a job and took it. Is it his fault that he was hired by that scumbag Kean ? OK, we might not want him as manager but just don't understand the hatred. mellorb&w

4:09pm Wed 24 Oct 12

ronnie clayton says...

FannyTickler wrote:
mudshark wrote:
http://www.goal.com/


en-india/news/137/en


gland/2012/10/22/346


9352/the-pressure-go


t-to-steve-kean-blac


kburn-rovers-co-owne


r?source=breakingnew


s

this is what venkys think of the fans
Oh my word. I would rather have the Chuckle Brothers running my club than this set of clowns. What a joke of a football club.
Just read that article Fanny Tickler posted from the Indian football press, incredible , Shebby must be treating the Venky`s like mushrooms "keep them in the dark and feed them ****" the Venky`s seem delighted they have employe a "global advisor" and he is doing a great job, and all the fans are right behind the club ,what`s the term " my a*rse" .
[quote][p][bold]FannyTickler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mudshark[/bold] wrote: http://www.goal.com/ en-india/news/137/en gland/2012/10/22/346 9352/the-pressure-go t-to-steve-kean-blac kburn-rovers-co-owne r?source=breakingnew s this is what venkys think of the fans[/p][/quote]Oh my word. I would rather have the Chuckle Brothers running my club than this set of clowns. What a joke of a football club.[/p][/quote]Just read that article Fanny Tickler posted from the Indian football press, incredible , Shebby must be treating the Venky`s like mushrooms "keep them in the dark and feed them ****" the Venky`s seem delighted they have employe a "global advisor" and he is doing a great job, and all the fans are right behind the club ,what`s the term " my a*rse" . ronnie clayton

4:23pm Wed 24 Oct 12

greenscreener says...

benal13 wrote:
French Rover wrote:
benal13 wrote:
French Rover wrote:
Benal13 said - pleasing the fans has to be a big part of any football club for gods sake,if they employ someone as manager when they know 99%of the fans dont want him would be stupid or would it FR ?

Yes it would be silly to deliberately select a manager who they knew 99% of the fans did not want......but that is a pretty unrealistic scenario you mention to try and make your point as that would never in reality happen would it. Experienced board members at any football club would select a manager on his merits not his popularity - though that would be a part of their consideration.
how can that be an unrealistic senario its just happened with mcinley, the clowns have realised the fans didnt want him so they have moved on down there list of cheap options, keep up FR for gods sake.!!!!!!
it wasn't and still isn't) 99%against McKinlay and you know it. The only manager in history who could illicit that much bad feeling would have to be Kean. And he is one in a million in every bad sense of the word. And you are still completely missing the point Benal13 about 'decent' club boards not appointing managers to appease the fans. All appointments should be made on the managers merit and the boards judgement. A sound board would not select an unpopular manager.
are you implying we have a sound board FR? to much cheap french wine and snails i think.
FR, personally I wish I was over there with a bottle of bordeaux (can't bring myself to call it claret) as it seems like you are having more than your share this week !

its clear to me, currently sober, that without even having an interview Mckinlay was already as unpopular a choice as Kean, guilty by association and lack of experence. He was on nobodys list and was only supported by people who thought he should be given a chance because he wasn't actually Kean. Not his fault but I think he's dodged a bullet there.
,
[quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: Benal13 said - pleasing the fans has to be a big part of any football club for gods sake,if they employ someone as manager when they know 99%of the fans dont want him would be stupid or would it FR ? Yes it would be silly to deliberately select a manager who they knew 99% of the fans did not want......but that is a pretty unrealistic scenario you mention to try and make your point as that would never in reality happen would it. Experienced board members at any football club would select a manager on his merits not his popularity - though that would be a part of their consideration.[/p][/quote]how can that be an unrealistic senario its just happened with mcinley, the clowns have realised the fans didnt want him so they have moved on down there list of cheap options, keep up FR for gods sake.!!!!!![/p][/quote]it wasn't and still isn't) 99%against McKinlay and you know it. The only manager in history who could illicit that much bad feeling would have to be Kean. And he is one in a million in every bad sense of the word. And you are still completely missing the point Benal13 about 'decent' club boards not appointing managers to appease the fans. All appointments should be made on the managers merit and the boards judgement. A sound board would not select an unpopular manager.[/p][/quote]are you implying we have a sound board FR? to much cheap french wine and snails i think.[/p][/quote]FR, personally I wish I was over there with a bottle of bordeaux (can't bring myself to call it claret) as it seems like you are having more than your share this week ! its clear to me, currently sober, that without even having an interview Mckinlay was already as unpopular a choice as Kean, guilty by association and lack of experence. He was on nobodys list and was only supported by people who thought he should be given a chance because he wasn't actually Kean. Not his fault but I think he's dodged a bullet there. , greenscreener

4:34pm Wed 24 Oct 12

French Rover says...

benal13 wrote:
French Rover wrote:
benal13 wrote:
French Rover wrote:
Benal13 said - pleasing the fans has to be a big part of any football club for gods sake,if they employ someone as manager when they know 99%of the fans dont want him would be stupid or would it FR ?

Yes it would be silly to deliberately select a manager who they knew 99% of the fans did not want......but that is a pretty unrealistic scenario you mention to try and make your point as that would never in reality happen would it. Experienced board members at any football club would select a manager on his merits not his popularity - though that would be a part of their consideration.
how can that be an unrealistic senario its just happened with mcinley, the clowns have realised the fans didnt want him so they have moved on down there list of cheap options, keep up FR for gods sake.!!!!!!
it wasn't and still isn't) 99%against McKinlay and you know it. The only manager in history who could illicit that much bad feeling would have to be Kean. And he is one in a million in every bad sense of the word. And you are still completely missing the point Benal13 about 'decent' club boards not appointing managers to appease the fans. All appointments should be made on the managers merit and the boards judgement. A sound board would not select an unpopular manager.
are you implying we have a sound board FR? to much cheap french wine and snails i think.
no....i never even suggested that. Best to give it up now eh...i
[quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: Benal13 said - pleasing the fans has to be a big part of any football club for gods sake,if they employ someone as manager when they know 99%of the fans dont want him would be stupid or would it FR ? Yes it would be silly to deliberately select a manager who they knew 99% of the fans did not want......but that is a pretty unrealistic scenario you mention to try and make your point as that would never in reality happen would it. Experienced board members at any football club would select a manager on his merits not his popularity - though that would be a part of their consideration.[/p][/quote]how can that be an unrealistic senario its just happened with mcinley, the clowns have realised the fans didnt want him so they have moved on down there list of cheap options, keep up FR for gods sake.!!!!!![/p][/quote]it wasn't and still isn't) 99%against McKinlay and you know it. The only manager in history who could illicit that much bad feeling would have to be Kean. And he is one in a million in every bad sense of the word. And you are still completely missing the point Benal13 about 'decent' club boards not appointing managers to appease the fans. All appointments should be made on the managers merit and the boards judgement. A sound board would not select an unpopular manager.[/p][/quote]are you implying we have a sound board FR? to much cheap french wine and snails i think.[/p][/quote]no....i never even suggested that. Best to give it up now eh...i French Rover

4:39pm Wed 24 Oct 12

mellorb&w says...

ronnie clayton wrote:
mellorb&w wrote:
Bryan Douglas supporter wrote:
“We’re getting to a position now where in the next week or so a decision has to be made,” said Black...... You and me, mate! Hope you are booking Pickford's for your move out of Ewood, Eric.

Why is it taking so long to get a Manager and why are we looking at inexperienced pundits and First Team Coaches? Could it be that no decent Manager will come anywhere near us, or perhaps they don't like chicken or Indian food? The Ewood saga / soap opera continues - when will it end?
Can someone explain the this hatred towards Black. What exactly has he done to deserve it? To me he is a coach who was offered a job and took it. Is it his fault that he was hired by that scumbag Kean ? OK, we might not want him as manager but just don't understand the hatred.
mellor b&w posted a comment saying he cant understand the hatred towards Black.
Hatred towards Black !!!!! , I don`t think his comment about "Steve Kean deserving a medal for putting up with the Rovers fans" doesnt help his cause .

But you are correct , but we feel he is a cheap option for the Venky`s as manager and he probably is getting a unfair brunt of it , we need a experienced manager not a coach not a ex Rovers player ,a manager thats been round the block .
The first thing a experienced manager will do will kick out the bludgers ,get the players in double training sessions get them fit, and create a buzz within the club.
Come on ronnie, what would you expect him to say? I wonder if you or I would say anything different if our boss was getting slagged off.
[quote][p][bold]ronnie clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mellorb&w[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bryan Douglas supporter[/bold] wrote: “We’re getting to a position now where in the next week or so a decision has to be made,” said Black...... You and me, mate! Hope you are booking Pickford's for your move out of Ewood, Eric. Why is it taking so long to get a Manager and why are we looking at inexperienced pundits and First Team Coaches? Could it be that no decent Manager will come anywhere near us, or perhaps they don't like chicken or Indian food? The Ewood saga / soap opera continues - when will it end?[/p][/quote]Can someone explain the this hatred towards Black. What exactly has he done to deserve it? To me he is a coach who was offered a job and took it. Is it his fault that he was hired by that scumbag Kean ? OK, we might not want him as manager but just don't understand the hatred.[/p][/quote]mellor b&w posted a comment saying he cant understand the hatred towards Black. Hatred towards Black !!!!! , I don`t think his comment about "Steve Kean deserving a medal for putting up with the Rovers fans" doesnt help his cause . But you are correct , but we feel he is a cheap option for the Venky`s as manager and he probably is getting a unfair brunt of it , we need a experienced manager not a coach not a ex Rovers player ,a manager thats been round the block . The first thing a experienced manager will do will kick out the bludgers ,get the players in double training sessions get them fit, and create a buzz within the club.[/p][/quote]Come on ronnie, what would you expect him to say? I wonder if you or I would say anything different if our boss was getting slagged off. mellorb&w

4:40pm Wed 24 Oct 12

French Rover says...

greenscreener wrote:
benal13 wrote:
French Rover wrote:
benal13 wrote:
French Rover wrote:
Benal13 said - pleasing the fans has to be a big part of any football club for gods sake,if they employ someone as manager when they know 99%of the fans dont want him would be stupid or would it FR ?

Yes it would be silly to deliberately select a manager who they knew 99% of the fans did not want......but that is a pretty unrealistic scenario you mention to try and make your point as that would never in reality happen would it. Experienced board members at any football club would select a manager on his merits not his popularity - though that would be a part of their consideration.
how can that be an unrealistic senario its just happened with mcinley, the clowns have realised the fans didnt want him so they have moved on down there list of cheap options, keep up FR for gods sake.!!!!!!
it wasn't and still isn't) 99%against McKinlay and you know it. The only manager in history who could illicit that much bad feeling would have to be Kean. And he is one in a million in every bad sense of the word. And you are still completely missing the point Benal13 about 'decent' club boards not appointing managers to appease the fans. All appointments should be made on the managers merit and the boards judgement. A sound board would not select an unpopular manager.
are you implying we have a sound board FR? to much cheap french wine and snails i think.
FR, personally I wish I was over there with a bottle of bordeaux (can't bring myself to call it claret) as it seems like you are having more than your share this week !

its clear to me, currently sober, that without even having an interview Mckinlay was already as unpopular a choice as Kean, guilty by association and lack of experence. He was on nobodys list and was only supported by people who thought he should be given a chance because he wasn't actually Kean. Not his fault but I think he's dodged a bullet there.
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You would be welcome to share a glass of Bordeaux Rouge anytime greenscreener...I agree that McKinlay would have been an unpopular choice and not my choice either but I don't think he would have been as unpopular as Kean. Not even Attila the Hun is as unloved as the Devious Odiious one.
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: Benal13 said - pleasing the fans has to be a big part of any football club for gods sake,if they employ someone as manager when they know 99%of the fans dont want him would be stupid or would it FR ? Yes it would be silly to deliberately select a manager who they knew 99% of the fans did not want......but that is a pretty unrealistic scenario you mention to try and make your point as that would never in reality happen would it. Experienced board members at any football club would select a manager on his merits not his popularity - though that would be a part of their consideration.[/p][/quote]how can that be an unrealistic senario its just happened with mcinley, the clowns have realised the fans didnt want him so they have moved on down there list of cheap options, keep up FR for gods sake.!!!!!![/p][/quote]it wasn't and still isn't) 99%against McKinlay and you know it. The only manager in history who could illicit that much bad feeling would have to be Kean. And he is one in a million in every bad sense of the word. And you are still completely missing the point Benal13 about 'decent' club boards not appointing managers to appease the fans. All appointments should be made on the managers merit and the boards judgement. A sound board would not select an unpopular manager.[/p][/quote]are you implying we have a sound board FR? to much cheap french wine and snails i think.[/p][/quote]FR, personally I wish I was over there with a bottle of bordeaux (can't bring myself to call it claret) as it seems like you are having more than your share this week ! its clear to me, currently sober, that without even having an interview Mckinlay was already as unpopular a choice as Kean, guilty by association and lack of experence. He was on nobodys list and was only supported by people who thought he should be given a chance because he wasn't actually Kean. Not his fault but I think he's dodged a bullet there. ,[/p][/quote]You would be welcome to share a glass of Bordeaux Rouge anytime greenscreener...I agree that McKinlay would have been an unpopular choice and not my choice either but I don't think he would have been as unpopular as Kean. Not even Attila the Hun is as unloved as the Devious Odiious one. French Rover

5:02pm Wed 24 Oct 12

SaffaRover says...

I used to enjoy coming on here and reading what fellow fans had to say about Blackburn Rovers.

But these days; it is moan, moan, moan.

I feel that Rovers fans have become slightly brattish - the minute something doesn't go our way it's either boycott time, or moan to the Lancashire mafia or come on here and complain.

I can't remember who wrote it on here early on in the week but what ever happened to the 'Kean sack, fans back'?? Not every clubs fans are 100% happy about the way things are run but those fans don't throw a tantrum each time they don't agree with something.

I think that Sherwood was given an unfair rap, and Billy McKinlay was doomed before he even started (if he did become manager).

It's not 100% the clubs owners and baord that's driving potential managers away, it's the fans too. If I was a manager I would never apply, purely because if Rovers lost a game there might be a hit on my head. Or fans might boo or complain if I did something slightly wrong.

Stop moaning and support the club we love.
I used to enjoy coming on here and reading what fellow fans had to say about Blackburn Rovers. But these days; it is moan, moan, moan. I feel that Rovers fans have become slightly brattish - the minute something doesn't go our way it's either boycott time, or moan to the Lancashire mafia or come on here and complain. I can't remember who wrote it on here early on in the week but what ever happened to the 'Kean sack, fans back'?? Not every clubs fans are 100% happy about the way things are run but those fans don't throw a tantrum each time they don't agree with something. I think that Sherwood was given an unfair rap, and Billy McKinlay was doomed before he even started (if he did become manager). It's not 100% the clubs owners and baord that's driving potential managers away, it's the fans too. If I was a manager I would never apply, purely because if Rovers lost a game there might be a hit on my head. Or fans might boo or complain if I did something slightly wrong. Stop moaning and support the club we love. SaffaRover

6:12pm Wed 24 Oct 12

roverfor60years says...

no ney never wrote:
If owen coyle had not been burnley's manager would you consider him?
He did the business for us and only left because flood could no longer put the money into the club which coyle had been promised because the credit crunch affected floods business.
Losing 2 players at the start of a season to broken legs and another collapsing on the pitch, in addition to having to cut the wage bill, meant coyle was always up against it at bolton. It was simply a bad time for anyone to be manager of bolton and could have been anyone in charge during that period.
Of course he'll always be judas for walking out on us, but with your squad to work with, i would be straight down the bookies with £50 on you to win this league if he is appointed.

Terry's of Burnley
That was one of my first thoughts. BUT - and a big but – I understand he is a client of Jerome Anderson and every Rovers supporter knows what havoc he has wreaked on our club. If he is not Venky's arch-enemy by now he shoud be..
[quote][p][bold]no ney never[/bold] wrote: If owen coyle had not been burnley's manager would you consider him? He did the business for us and only left because flood could no longer put the money into the club which coyle had been promised because the credit crunch affected floods business. Losing 2 players at the start of a season to broken legs and another collapsing on the pitch, in addition to having to cut the wage bill, meant coyle was always up against it at bolton. It was simply a bad time for anyone to be manager of bolton and could have been anyone in charge during that period. Of course he'll always be judas for walking out on us, but with your squad to work with, i would be straight down the bookies with £50 on you to win this league if he is appointed. Terry's of Burnley[/p][/quote]That was one of my first thoughts. BUT - and a big but – I understand he is a client of Jerome Anderson and every Rovers supporter knows what havoc he has wreaked on our club. If he is not Venky's arch-enemy by now he shoud be.. roverfor60years

6:46pm Wed 24 Oct 12

Nuttall Street says...

dangerous dave wrote:
As if the club is not in enough turmoil then you read the article in yesterdays LT about Colin Hendry.
Were are the hallmarks of integrity, honesty and family values that Jack Walker/Williams promoted whilst under their reign gone.
Hendry a bankrupt owing thousands to innocent people, a liar and lucky (reading between the lines) not to have been charged with assault/beating continues to embarrass the club further.
Ewood used to be filled with individuals and families passionate about their club no it is half filled with people with a bitter taste in their mouth about Kean and his cohorts.
Its about time the likes of Shaw Agnew and Singh returned these values back to the club and its fans because if they dont the Rovers will fade into the abyss - its pointless talking about Mrs D - we never see or here from her and I think the Venkeys interpretation of the word 'value' is only in their 'value' packs of chicken legs and drum sticks.
I for one will not return to Ewood until we see Keans cohorts disappear out of sight and the current board start to instill some of the family traditions of honesty and integrity back into the club.
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY VENKEYS
Well said Dave.
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: As if the club is not in enough turmoil then you read the article in yesterdays LT about Colin Hendry. Were are the hallmarks of integrity, honesty and family values that Jack Walker/Williams promoted whilst under their reign gone. Hendry a bankrupt owing thousands to innocent people, a liar and lucky (reading between the lines) not to have been charged with assault/beating continues to embarrass the club further. Ewood used to be filled with individuals and families passionate about their club no it is half filled with people with a bitter taste in their mouth about Kean and his cohorts. Its about time the likes of Shaw Agnew and Singh returned these values back to the club and its fans because if they dont the Rovers will fade into the abyss - its pointless talking about Mrs D - we never see or here from her and I think the Venkeys interpretation of the word 'value' is only in their 'value' packs of chicken legs and drum sticks. I for one will not return to Ewood until we see Keans cohorts disappear out of sight and the current board start to instill some of the family traditions of honesty and integrity back into the club. OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW SINGH BLACK HENDRY VENKEYS[/p][/quote]Well said Dave. Nuttall Street

8:01pm Wed 24 Oct 12

kfc yummy says...

bornindarwenliveinno
ttm wrote:
Paul Jewell anyone? Got both Bradford and Wigan promoted to the premier league so has the experience. Not the most exciting prospect I know, but he';s a proper manager who we can get behind. He's out of work as from today so no compensation and I'm sure he'd jump at the chance of working closer to home with a squad capbable of pushing for promotion. Go get in Shebby!
Rather have Jimmy Jewel whoops he;s dead.
[quote][p][bold]bornindarwenliveinno ttm[/bold] wrote: Paul Jewell anyone? Got both Bradford and Wigan promoted to the premier league so has the experience. Not the most exciting prospect I know, but he';s a proper manager who we can get behind. He's out of work as from today so no compensation and I'm sure he'd jump at the chance of working closer to home with a squad capbable of pushing for promotion. Go get in Shebby![/p][/quote]Rather have Jimmy Jewel whoops he;s dead. kfc yummy

8:55pm Wed 24 Oct 12

i8dingles says...

Shebby you're an absolute joke, as credible as the convicted drunk driver, get out of our proud club, i am a global advisor.... I advise you to go to the other side of the globe
Shebby you're an absolute joke, as credible as the convicted drunk driver, get out of our proud club, i am a global advisor.... I advise you to go to the other side of the globe i8dingles

9:49pm Wed 24 Oct 12

Rhysp9 says...

Betting just been suspended on a couple of sites. Flitcroft had come in from 65/1 to 3/1 after Dowies announcement on SSN.
Betting just been suspended on a couple of sites. Flitcroft had come in from 65/1 to 3/1 after Dowies announcement on SSN. Rhysp9

11:53pm Wed 24 Oct 12

no ney never says...

peely wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
makaveli96 wrote:
jackmetickler wrote:
its a good job from the comments above it isnt down to the fans to pick a manager... TF whoever comes in is going to face the normal 'Riverside' pessimism.... its been one of the traits of our fans since I have been going since the 60's, but seems to have become a disease of late! But FFS give whomever it turns out to be a fighting chance..... or all your predictions of doom will be self fulfilling prophecies.
Real fans don't sit in the Riverside!

Its an old mans stand for the middle class.

The working class purists sit in the Blackburn end!

Venkys Out! Singh out! The agent who cannot be named out!
Real fans sit in the Bernabeu.
Real fans stand in t'enclosure !
Real Fans sit in the Bob Lord Stand.

Terry's of Burnley
[quote][p][bold]peely[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]makaveli96[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jackmetickler[/bold] wrote: its a good job from the comments above it isnt down to the fans to pick a manager... TF whoever comes in is going to face the normal 'Riverside' pessimism.... its been one of the traits of our fans since I have been going since the 60's, but seems to have become a disease of late! But FFS give whomever it turns out to be a fighting chance..... or all your predictions of doom will be self fulfilling prophecies.[/p][/quote]Real fans don't sit in the Riverside! Its an old mans stand for the middle class. The working class purists sit in the Blackburn end! Venkys Out! Singh out! The agent who cannot be named out![/p][/quote]Real fans sit in the Bernabeu.[/p][/quote]Real fans stand in t'enclosure ![/p][/quote]Real Fans sit in the Bob Lord Stand. Terry's of Burnley no ney never

2:45am Thu 25 Oct 12

RespectTheK-Dog says...

In all my 72 years of supporting Blackburn I have never been so appalled as I am right now.

Flitcroft is not the man

I've been around the block long enough (72 years) to know a no good dullard when I see one. And I tell you what I see now: a no good dullard.

Chorley! what sort of credentials are those?

Jesus, can this man even hold a pint glass properly? Kean and Hendry could drink their beer like proper men but I doubt this new puppet of Shebby's even sups real ale. Disgusting.

No - this is all going to end in tears I tell you. 72 years experience tells me. I can sniff out the wronguns I tell you.

When I look at Flitcroft I see WEAKNESS. Yes, there's a bit too much of "I'd prefer to set up the cones for training" about him than "I'm off to steal my neighbours' life savings and pi.ss it all away gambling on NFL all night while drinking special brew". I can see it in his eyes.

This doesn't bode well for BRFC.

Arte et Labore”
In all my 72 years of supporting Blackburn I have never been so appalled as I am right now. Flitcroft is not the man I've been around the block long enough (72 years) to know a no good dullard when I see one. And I tell you what I see now: a no good dullard. Chorley! what sort of credentials are those? Jesus, can this man even hold a pint glass properly? Kean and Hendry could drink their beer like proper men but I doubt this new puppet of Shebby's even sups real ale. Disgusting. No - this is all going to end in tears I tell you. 72 years experience tells me. I can sniff out the wronguns I tell you. When I look at Flitcroft I see WEAKNESS. Yes, there's a bit too much of "I'd prefer to set up the cones for training" about him than "I'm off to steal my neighbours' life savings and pi.ss it all away gambling on NFL all night while drinking special brew". I can see it in his eyes. This doesn't bode well for BRFC. Arte et Labore” RespectTheK-Dog

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