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Blackburn Northern voted out of Ribblesdale League - with Salesbury in
11:17am Tuesday 1st December 2009 in
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- By Matt Donlan » Sports reporter
BLACKBURN Northern have been sensationally voted out of the Ribblesdale League’s top division – and will be replaced next season by Salesbury.
The Pleckgate Road club, who finished rock bottom of the of the Senior League last season just two years after being champions and Ramsbottom Cup winners, had to apply for re-election at the league annual general meeting.
And the other member clubs – Senior League sides have two votes – flexed their muscles and voted Northern out by a margin of 21-13 with three abstentions, meaning they must play first division cricket next season.
Northern, whose past professionals include former Indian Test ace Chetan Sharma, have been members of the Ribblesdale League since 1941, while Salesbury will be the first new club in the top flight since Oswaldtwistle Immanuel were voted in back in 1994.
Their promotion comes after years of hard work at their Ribchester Road ground and steady on-field improvement, an improvement which saw them win the First Division by 49 points last season.
“It is great news and reward for everyone at the club after a lot of hard work,” said Salesbury committee member Jason Rawson.
“We are all delighted about the elevation but at the same time we feel a touch of sadness for Blackburn Northern.
"We wanted to get into the top flight and it is a shame that another side has lost its place.
“The hard work starts now for us though. We will be having a meeting to look at who to appoint as professional because that is all new to us.”
Northern, who have won the Senior League five times and are three-time winners of the Ramsbottom Cup, had a troubled season as they finished bottom of the league.
And they were at the centre of controversy when skipper Rudra Singh took his players off the field midway through a game at eventual league champions Baxenden, claiming conditions at Back Lane were unfit despite the ground being given the all-clear by the umpires.
And in a rule change also passed at Monday’s meeting, league members voted to dock any club 24 points should there be a recurrence.
In future, any skipper refusing the continue a game will also be suspended for five matches.
Rod Slater has also stepped down as league secretary after a decade in the role and he will be replaced by Ron Walton, who is a former secretary of Northern.
Comments(81)
rish
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4:26pm Tue 1 Dec 09
Matt Garner
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4:33pm Tue 1 Dec 09
ebygum
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4:40pm Tue 1 Dec 09
Sorry Northern, but you were told 5 or 6 years ago where it would all end, and its proved to be the case.
Mike Costa
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6:01pm Tue 1 Dec 09
Still, they'll always get a game at Pleasington.
Everyone who has had anything to do with the clubs demise over the past few years, and you know who you are, should hang your heads in shame. This has been coming for some time.
Last years debacle with the bringing in of Rhudra ' Im better than ayone else' Singh was just the icing on the cake. Unfortunately, he can walk away with his fat 'trainer' and leave the wreckage.
red rose
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10:27pm Tue 1 Dec 09
I suggest you get up to speed with your own clubs views .Earby voted for Northern you plank .Senior clubs who voted for Salesbury know who they are,and they deserve a chance.
Shame the clubs in general didnt have the common sense to vote in leg sides wides.
Also watch the lack of effort to get games played now that that it is five points for a no result.lets just try and kill the game altogether eh.
Nuttall St Norman
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9:36am Wed 2 Dec 09
Can't help but think that the decision to axe BN is a somewhat hasty one give that they have been members for 68 years. Whether Salesbury improve the Senior League remains to be seen but I note their entries in the Youth League section are very limited and not those of a Club who support the League wholeheartedly
rish
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9:39am Wed 2 Dec 09
belly
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10:32am Wed 2 Dec 09
Its a great shame that Arthur, Ron and others who work hard for Northern, to see them voted out of the Senior League.
Having said that, Salesbury are a good, ambitious club who have been knocking on the door for many years. Their chance has come and I hope they do well. We were in exactly their situation not too many years ago...
FBD
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12:11pm Wed 2 Dec 09
T.Osspot
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3:49pm Wed 2 Dec 09
rish
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3:59pm Wed 2 Dec 09
T.Osspot wrote:who would compete in these leagues not enough at moment to find 2 leagues or we will be playing once of every month and if additions are made are they going to good enough both on and off the field
Northern might be back in in 12 months , if the league do the right thing and bring in two senior leagues , with promotion and relegation from one to the other .
dj66
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5:37pm Wed 2 Dec 09
red rose
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6:02pm Wed 2 Dec 09
Just like they got the chance to go for leg side wides.
T.Osspot
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9:10am Thu 3 Dec 09
Red Rose , I realise that , I understand my wording was wrong .
Nuttall St Norman
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9:35am Thu 3 Dec 09
Lets change the format of the league and hopeanother team comes all along
The problem with the League is that there are too many changes and people do not know the existing rules. A classic example is the rule relating to 20/20. Last year a decision was made that 1 point each should be awarded where no result is achieved. This year a complete about turn
Matt Garner
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9:50am Thu 3 Dec 09
red rose wrote:red rose, what a clown you are!! so i must share the same views as the comittee of the club i play my cricket for?? you sound very bitter, as nuttall st norman says i am entitled to my opinion as anyone else and i for 1 am glad that i dont have to go to Blackburn Northern next season as i play cricket because i enjoy it and i enjoy having a beer with the lads afterwards but this fixture offers neither. good riddance and i sincerely hope they never return!!!
Matt Garner, I suggest you get up to speed with your own clubs views .Earby voted for Northern you plank .Senior clubs who voted for Salesbury know who they are,and they deserve a chance. Shame the clubs in general didnt have the common sense to vote in leg sides wides. Also watch the lack of effort to get games played now that that it is five points for a no result.lets just try and kill the game altogether eh.
red rose
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11:56am Thu 3 Dec 09
Get real and get the decison makers up to speed ,its not the league that decides its the clubs.
rish
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12:05pm Thu 3 Dec 09
red rose wrote:must admit red rose i have to agree with you the desision to reduce the 20/20 is a bad one as you say helps clubs finacially and who will decide who plays one game at home while another team plays 2 ?? leg side wides and also the 5pt rule will also mean bottom clubs not bothering to make an effort against the top sides knowing they will get 5 pts more than what they may have got by deciding to play
Mr Garner, Step outside the box, youre at the wrong place if all your "mates" and committe want to keep going to Northern.Why should I be bitter. Many others may think like you but the right messages does not get to league reps- hence - no leg side wides - 5 points for a rained off game means no one will be that bothered about trying to get a game on.Twenty 20 is a real money spinner for most clubs but now we have clubs who will have just one home game.Is this what we want.Not enough players get the point over to committee about what is best for taking things forward. Get real and get the decison makers up to speed ,its not the league that decides its the clubs.
Pinch Hitter
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12:25pm Thu 3 Dec 09
Good luck to Sailsbury but I think they will struggle in the top flight, you only have to look at the most recent additions to the Senior League in Edenfield and Ossy who are still perennial strugglers at this level.
Does anyone know if the League Secretary’s resignation is a consequence of the re-election issue or are the two events unconnected?
Finally it is interesting to note that the other re-election spot this year was occupied by Clitheroe, perhaps the plight of these two recent championship winners should serve as a warning to the clubs that flaunt the league rules in pursuit of silverware that things can change around very quickly.
Mark my words Barlick could be the next to follow!
Matt Garner
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1:03pm Thu 3 Dec 09
red rose wrote:I agree with your 2 points about leg side wides(as a keeper i would love to not have to deal with leg side bowling) and abandoned games but there is no need to start personal attacks because i share a different opinion to Earby's Comittee!! Do all cricket clubs have meetings with their players so they can relay a joint message and vote as a club to the league? i know Earby and Barlick dont. Be interesting to see how many current players who aren't involved in the comittee have had their opinion put forward. And Pinch Hitter your very brave saying a bad word about Barlick, true but brave. step up "Sir Claude" whoever or wherever you are???
Mr Garner, Step outside the box, youre at the wrong place if all your "mates" and committe want to keep going to Northern.Why should I be bitter. Many others may think like you but the right messages does not get to league reps- hence - no leg side wides - 5 points for a rained off game means no one will be that bothered about trying to get a game on.Twenty 20 is a real money spinner for most clubs but now we have clubs who will have just one home game.Is this what we want.Not enough players get the point over to committee about what is best for taking things forward. Get real and get the decison makers up to speed ,its not the league that decides its the clubs.
red rose rover
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1:09pm Thu 3 Dec 09
Likewise it was your club who proposed that in the 20/20 league format, teams should only play each other the once. Next we have Read & Earby only wanting 4 teams in a group with hence only one home fixture guaranteed every other year.
Any clubs not wanting to lose this great money spinner might want to set up their own 20/20 competition?
Some very perverse resolutions passed last Monday.
Under the code of conduct now, ALL reported incidents will be subject to a Disciplinary Panel, with the costs being met by the club. Those on the disciplinary panel are going to be very busy and quite lucrative. Madness, again a resolution proposed by Bash.
Leg side wides. What happened to the clubs who voted for Harwood's 1st proposal? When this was defeated why did they not vote in favour of the second proposal by Northern? Very odd and we are left with an unchanged situation of possible negative legside bowling which virtually all the players wanted addressing.
Might I suggest that in future players/interested parties do a better job in getting their thoughts about the league across better to their clubs?
Alas, if only Bash might have acted quicker with their new found liking for proposals in a similar manner back in August, to reporting and calling for action following their match against Northern.
Hon Sec's resignation came before any re-election/election decision.
FBD
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1:40pm Thu 3 Dec 09
Pinch Hitter
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1:46pm Thu 3 Dec 09
At the end of the day the rule changes are decided by a majority of the clubs who in turn are no doubt acting upon a mandate from their committee. This is known as democracy, if you cannot accept it you are living in the wrong country.
red rose rover
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1:58pm Thu 3 Dec 09
rish
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2:02pm Thu 3 Dec 09
red rose rover wrote:red rose i was claiming this as my opinion ,not everyone will agree with me on commitee hence why they have proposed these rules ,regarding the disclipinary rules we asked for actin about 48hrs after the game and were blatantly ignored as no punishment was served ,i wonder what the punishment would of been if other clubs/captains had taken this measure??
Rish, it was your club who proposed to increase the points from 3 to 5 for a no result! Likewise it was your club who proposed that in the 20/20 league format, teams should only play each other the once. Next we have Read & Earby only wanting 4 teams in a group with hence only one home fixture guaranteed every other year. Any clubs not wanting to lose this great money spinner might want to set up their own 20/20 competition? Some very perverse resolutions passed last Monday. Under the code of conduct now, ALL reported incidents will be subject to a Disciplinary Panel, with the costs being met by the club. Those on the disciplinary panel are going to be very busy and quite lucrative. Madness, again a resolution proposed by Bash. Leg side wides. What happened to the clubs who voted for Harwood's 1st proposal? When this was defeated why did they not vote in favour of the second proposal by Northern? Very odd and we are left with an unchanged situation of possible negative legside bowling which virtually all the players wanted addressing. Might I suggest that in future players/interested parties do a better job in getting their thoughts about the league across better to their clubs? Alas, if only Bash might have acted quicker with their new found liking for proposals in a similar manner back in August, to reporting and calling for action following their match against Northern. Hon Sec's resignation came before any re-election/election decision.
red rose rover
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2:04pm Thu 3 Dec 09
belly
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2:06pm Thu 3 Dec 09
Pinch Hitter
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2:07pm Thu 3 Dec 09
red rose rover
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2:12pm Thu 3 Dec 09
We've ended up with a lot of sheep following some silly proposals at this weeks AGM, but hey ho that's democracy as Pinch Hitter put it.
rish
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2:23pm Thu 3 Dec 09
red rose rover wrote:red rose get a grip why should we need to write a letter straight away i would have though that was the point of having a league commitee or discpilinary commitee basically they didnt have the spine to do anything bit like yourself red rose we all know who you are so why dont you use your real name
Rish, the letter your club sent on the 18th September 2009...why did they not send it a month earlier?...why did your club not speak up and proposed that a disciplinary meeting should be called at the league meeting on 7th September 2009? We've ended up with a lot of sheep following some silly proposals at this weeks AGM, but hey ho that's democracy as Pinch Hitter put it.
red rose rover
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2:36pm Thu 3 Dec 09
red rose
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2:54pm Thu 3 Dec 09
Ups it raining lets forget it all and go home 5 points in t'bag.Must have ben the weaker clubs who voted for that one, or lazy ones !!!!
Pinch Hitter
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4:24pm Thu 3 Dec 09
You do appear to have a problem accepting the principal of consensus of opinion prevailing Red Rose.
red rose
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5:48pm Thu 3 Dec 09
The league has grown in strength ability wise recently but these backward steps will start a reverse trend
Blob
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6:38pm Thu 3 Dec 09
Pinch Hitter wrote:An interesting observation Pinch Hitter but I would of thought people in glass houses shouldnt start throwing stones.
I predicted that this would happen on this web-site at the end of the season. Northern have been badly let down by the Management Committee who should have nipped this in the bud by handing down an appropriate punishment at the time. Good luck to Sailsbury but I think they will struggle in the top flight, you only have to look at the most recent additions to the Senior League in Edenfield and Ossy who are still perennial strugglers at this level. Does anyone know if the League Secretary’s resignation is a consequence of the re-election issue or are the two events unconnected? Finally it is interesting to note that the other re-election spot this year was occupied by Clitheroe, perhaps the plight of these two recent championship winners should serve as a warning to the clubs that flaunt the league rules in pursuit of silverware that things can change around very quickly. Mark my words Barlick could be the next to follow!
Well over half the clubs in the senior league have at some time or another either offered "expenses" to a player or players other than the pro, or, had a club member/benefactor do the job for them. As I've said before on this forum, lets have it all out in the open and allow it - if the premier leagues and the likes of the Bolton league can do it, why cant the Ribb league?
Personally I am looking forward to playing against Barlick next year (especially at Clitheroe), it should be every amateur cricketers aim to play against the best possible opposition and if they have strengthened then the league will be stronger for it.
I totally agree with the view that this would not of happened had the league grasped the nettle during the season - unfortunately in recent times the league have seemed to many to be running scared of Northern - the case of the convicted rapist being a prime example.
Perhaps its a shame that Salesbury have had to wait so long to get in - most of their senior players are getting a bit long in the tooth now - a condition I can identify with all too easily!
Just a shame that once again the league couldnt bring in the leg-side-wide rule. We all play these rules in the LCB or national knock out - its a disgrace that it hasnt been adopted - i'm sure a poll of senior league players would be overwhelmingly in favour.
Perhaps the league will now bring in proper promotion and relegation - for far too long August and September has produced some poor cricket as teams with little or nothing to play for go through the motions.
Finally, its good to see that Ron Walton is still involved - many a man would of walked away from the league had their own club been voted out and it is to his credit that he has taken on another role with the league.
rish
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12:18pm Fri 4 Dec 09
T.Osspot
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12:25pm Fri 4 Dec 09
But I wont hold my breath and I wont need all the fingers of one hand to count them .
gandalf the B'licker
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3:02pm Fri 4 Dec 09
Its great to talk , I have read with great amusement the comments raised since the end of last season .
The latest events concerning BBN and sailsbury really do make me take notice , personally I thnk Sailsbury's (promotion) is a great result ,for that club has been tireless in its persuit of improving its own club , its facilities and its continual cricket performance .
However surely the league will have to bring in ( B'lick did propose this ) promotion/relegation ( If The Ground Is Up To Standard And No 1st v 2nd Teams ) .
So keep talking all as this will make it happen rather than it bieng such a shock come league agm time .
And yes "Pinch Hitter " if it comes to B'lick as it did a few years ago we had to apply for re-election then we have to take the hit .
It certainly makes the club realise they need to change things in order to compete . So we have done !!
regards all
rish
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3:07pm Fri 4 Dec 09
T.Osspot wrote:maybe your right we will never know because half of the people only use alias names bit like yourself
Well said Blob regarding Ron Walton , he is a decent bloke and not a bad umpire . I`d like to see how many posting on here will serve their own clubs and the League for as long as he has . But I wont hold my breath and I wont need all the fingers of one hand to count them .
gandalf the B'licker
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4:05pm Fri 4 Dec 09
red rose rover
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4:14pm Fri 4 Dec 09
Pinch Hitter
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4:41pm Fri 4 Dec 09
Also amused by the quote:-
‘Personally I am looking forward to playing against Barlick next year (especially at Clitheroe), it should be every amateur cricketers aim to play against the best possible opposition and if they have strengthened then the league will be stronger for it.’
Anyone would think they had signed Bret Lee and Ricky Ponting!
Since when have a couple of average amateurs from Nelson constituted the ‘best possible opposition’?
The words Big Fish and little pond spring to mind!
Must admit I agree with the comments about Ronnie, and well done to him, as I stated previously as soon as the league failed to take appropriate action about the walk off it was always likely that stalwarts like Ronnie and Arthur would be the ones to provide the pound of flesh.
rish
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4:47pm Fri 4 Dec 09
Pinch Hitter wrote:hope your not from bash you give rest of us a bad name ,regarding baxenden being a 2 man team think you will find that we also have some other more than useful players suddy and callum had great years and would walk into any team in league
Not a case of people in glasshouses throwing stones just making a point about how quickly things can turn around. I am under no illusions and well aware that the success enjoyed at Bash last year was heavily reliant upon 2 class players, take away Ian Austin and the pro and Bash the rest are nothing to write home about. Also amused by the quote:- ‘Personally I am looking forward to playing against Barlick next year (especially at Clitheroe), it should be every amateur cricketers aim to play against the best possible opposition and if they have strengthened then the league will be stronger for it.’ Anyone would think they had signed Bret Lee and Ricky Ponting! Since when have a couple of average amateurs from Nelson constituted the ‘best possible opposition’? The words Big Fish and little pond spring to mind! Must admit I agree with the comments about Ronnie, and well done to him, as I stated previously as soon as the league failed to take appropriate action about the walk off it was always likely that stalwarts like Ronnie and Arthur would be the ones to provide the pound of flesh.
Pinch Hitter
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5:02pm Fri 4 Dec 09
Stu Maher
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5:08pm Fri 4 Dec 09
At the end of the day guys, the league is run by the clubs, and the clubs decide on all disciplinary and rule change issues, either fully in the latter case or by approving (or not) any action taken in the former case.
If you dont like it, get involved with your clubs committee and spend your time altering their 'outdated' views and working for your club, rather than wasting your time typing comments (like i am now!), or slagging people off on here.
If you dont like majority voting on issues, move to a country like Zimbabwe or Iran, you'll fit in well.
Looking forward to another interesting season!
red rose rover
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5:37pm Fri 4 Dec 09
Pinch Hitter wrote:You might find that some of Bash's players fancy a new challenge?
Big Josh and Dibby would walk into any team but did not stop Clitheroe finishing next to bottom. There are some good palyers in all sides and it's a thin dividing line. As well as Callum and Suddy did last year it cannot be denied that Bobby and Oscar made the difference.
For example I bet Suddy might enjoy a move to the mighty Lancs League to help a team move from runners up to become champions?
gandalf the B'licker
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8:08pm Fri 4 Dec 09
B'lick have struggled since we had to apply for re-election and are making progress by improving coaches and players and improving the ground so that it becomes a place to want to come and play not just about the 1st team .
That's why the promotion of sailsbury is a good move from the league , every club will now stand up and make more effort which in turn improves the league throughout division's .
T.Osspot
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9:23am Sat 5 Dec 09
red rose
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10:42am Sat 5 Dec 09
Stone Cold
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9:40am Sun 6 Dec 09
Matt Garner
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3:18pm Sun 6 Dec 09
FBD
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11:06am Mon 7 Dec 09
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Blob
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11:37am Mon 7 Dec 09
Pinch Hitter wrote:Playing against the "best possible opposition" should be what every player aims for pinch Hitter you numpty - how would anyone improve if they didnt? (Either me and you come from a different era or you dont play)I dont know either of the lads who have joined Barlick but no doubt they will be a step up from one or two that were in their team last year. It stands to reason Barlick will be stronger opposition and therefore it will be a bigger challenge. I dont think I suggested messrs Ponting and Lee were going to rock up at Victory Park - perhaps if the Scotherns sold the Harry Garlicks empire and put a couple of hundred grand into the pot they might!!
Not a case of people in glasshouses throwing stones just making a point about how quickly things can turn around. I am under no illusions and well aware that the success enjoyed at Bash last year was heavily reliant upon 2 class players, take away Ian Austin and the pro and Bash the rest are nothing to write home about. Also amused by the quote:- ‘Personally I am looking forward to playing against Barlick next year (especially at Clitheroe), it should be every amateur cricketers aim to play against the best possible opposition and if they have strengthened then the league will be stronger for it.’ Anyone would think they had signed Bret Lee and Ricky Ponting! Since when have a couple of average amateurs from Nelson constituted the ‘best possible opposition’? The words Big Fish and little pond spring to mind! Must admit I agree with the comments about Ronnie, and well done to him, as I stated previously as soon as the league failed to take appropriate action about the walk off it was always likely that stalwarts like Ronnie and Arthur would be the ones to provide the pound of flesh.
Now that would make the trip to Barlick a **** sight more interesting!
Sadly, the days of an overseas pro (even those of a much lower standard than the above) at every club are long gone - theres just too much red tape and hassle for most clubs to put up with.
Its a far cry from the days of overseas amateurs when many clubs had a couple of aussies or south africans. The clubhouses certainly buzzed back then (until they disappeared into town to cut a swathe through the local female population!)
Craig Haworth at Cherry was the most destructive batter Ive seen in this league other than Shahid. Didnt do himself any favours at Harwood though.
rish
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11:48am Mon 7 Dec 09
red rose rover wrote:who knows maybe he will he is an hassy lad and his brother plays there but doubt it will be next season if he goes at all
Pinch Hitter wrote: Big Josh and Dibby would walk into any team but did not stop Clitheroe finishing next to bottom. There are some good palyers in all sides and it's a thin dividing line. As well as Callum and Suddy did last year it cannot be denied that Bobby and Oscar made the difference.You might find that some of Bash's players fancy a new challenge? For example I bet Suddy might enjoy a move to the mighty Lancs League to help a team move from runners up to become champions?
UmpireTrell
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7:20pm Mon 7 Dec 09
Blob , in Craigs first season he was fantastic . It was only during his second season , with his silly cousin Muttley around , that things went badly wrong .
Matt Garner
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11:04pm Mon 7 Dec 09
UmpireTrell wrote:now then trelly!!!! who is red rose??? brian??
OK , Brian , now you`ve outed me , I`ve changed my username . So you`ll all know its me from now on . Blob , in Craigs first season he was fantastic . It was only during his second season , with his silly cousin Muttley around , that things went badly wrong .
L.J.
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11:40pm Mon 7 Dec 09
rish
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9:06am Tue 8 Dec 09
UmpireTrell wrote:was that his cousin didnt know that,must admit he was a character old mutlley seen them once in peps in blackburn and he was walking round all night with a plate on his head very strange,craig was a class act though
OK , Brian , now you`ve outed me , I`ve changed my username . So you`ll all know its me from now on . Blob , in Craigs first season he was fantastic . It was only during his second season , with his silly cousin Muttley around , that things went badly wrong .
UmpireTrell
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2:33pm Tue 8 Dec 09
Wizzz
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8:32am Wed 9 Dec 09
Brian Woodhead on Rib League discussions? Dont be silly now.
L.J.
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11:52pm Wed 9 Dec 09
L.J. wrote:So one can safely assume that if BN are top of D2 in 2010 they will be promoted?
Who the last club to be relegated?
Matt Garner
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8:19am Thu 10 Dec 09
rish
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9:06am Thu 10 Dec 09
L.J. wrote:they have gone into division 1,and if they do win it i presume they will apply to get back in and bottom of senior league will have to be re-elected
L.J. wrote: Who the last club to be relegated?So one can safely assume that if BN are top of D2 in 2010 they will be promoted?
red rose rover
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10:36am Thu 10 Dec 09
An improvement on their 2009 score would be necessary.
Have Cherry got a decent pro lined up for 2010 yet? Would that be good karma?
rish
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10:41am Thu 10 Dec 09
red rose rover wrote:signed turns firom clitheroe
Plus also assuming that the minimum ground standard is met. An improvement on their 2009 score would be necessary. Have Cherry got a decent pro lined up for 2010 yet? Would that be good karma?
FBD
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11:47am Thu 10 Dec 09
Also still no comment from any BN playing staff on the whole issue it would be interesting to see what their thoughts are...
fa
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7:11pm Thu 10 Dec 09
1- Team consist of 11 players who didn’t socialize with other players or officials after the game.
2- Report suggests that these 11 players spent their money more on crisp and coke rather than beer or some other alcoholic drinks. As resulted they were not generating enough money from their cricket section, other sections were assisting them.
At least now other sections don’t have to pay for professional.
UmpireTrell
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8:19am Fri 11 Dec 09
sir claude
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3:21pm Sun 13 Dec 09
Mike Costa
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7:47pm Mon 14 Dec 09
Congratulations to all of the 70 posts above.
Some hints at the real reason why everyone wanted Northern out ie "They were an anti-social lot", but nobody has made a racial comment.
However, you all know thats why nobody liked them, dont deny it.
rish
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9:38am Tue 15 Dec 09
Mike Costa wrote:yes 70 posts without one racist comment until you came on and said that do you not realize that what you have just said is racist?? i would get your facts right mike before you start pointing the finger there are plenty of reasons why they have been voted out not including what you have stated
Mike Costa says: Congratulations to all of the 70 posts above. Some hints at the real reason why everyone wanted Northern out ie "They were an anti-social lot", but nobody has made a racial comment. However, you all know thats why nobody liked them, dont deny it.
Mike Costa
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2:47pm Tue 15 Dec 09
rish wrote:Mike Costa says:
Mike Costa wrote: Mike Costa says: Congratulations to all of the 70 posts above. Some hints at the real reason why everyone wanted Northern out ie "They were an anti-social lot", but nobody has made a racial comment. However, you all know thats why nobody liked them, dont deny it.yes 70 posts without one racist comment until you came on and said that do you not realize that what you have just said is racist?? i would get your facts right mike before you start pointing the finger there are plenty of reasons why they have been voted out not including what you have stated
Really? How naive ! Do you honestly expect people to believe that the fact that Northern is to all intent and purpose an Asian Cricket Club had nothing to do with why nobody wanted them in the league. Is that not what was really meant when 'Sir Claude' said they were an anti social lot?
The pretence at being PC is ridiculous.
Read what I said carefully. It wasn't racist, just a statement of fact
rish
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2:57pm Tue 15 Dec 09
Mike Costa wrote:if someone thinks they are anti social then so be it i have played against all white teams that are anti social and if they had finished bottom and had to be reelected then their fate would have been in the clubs lap,the facts are simple they finished bottom and had numerous run ins with clubs etc and were not punished to peoples satisfaction so when the chance came at the agm they voted them out ,simple get over it and move on and stop looking for excuses why they got booted out
rish wrote:Mike Costa says: Really? How naive ! Do you honestly expect people to believe that the fact that Northern is to all intent and purpose an Asian Cricket Club had nothing to do with why nobody wanted them in the league. Is that not what was really meant when 'Sir Claude' said they were an anti social lot? The pretence at being PC is ridiculous. Read what I said carefully. It wasn't racist, just a statement of factMike Costa wrote: Mike Costa says: Congratulations to all of the 70 posts above. Some hints at the real reason why everyone wanted Northern out ie "They were an anti-social lot", but nobody has made a racial comment. However, you all know thats why nobody liked them, dont deny it.yes 70 posts without one racist comment until you came on and said that do you not realize that what you have just said is racist?? i would get your facts right mike before you start pointing the finger there are plenty of reasons why they have been voted out not including what you have stated
gandalf the B'licker
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7:19pm Tue 15 Dec 09
You have accused us of bieng naive.
Look around the league , THINK ! about the proffesional cricketers employed by the majority of clubs over the last ten years and where they have come from . I have played as have most of the people who have commented on this page played with people from all over the world and all ethnics . There are great rivalries e.g b'lik and Earby. I do not have to like the oposition while playing i.e Mr Garner or Herbs but after we walk of the green stuff I /we will have a beer or coke with them anytime to discuss the days cricket AND enjoy there company !! This happens with every team in the league except 1 .Cos the bars shut !! We WANT to stand in the bar and talk cricket discuss how we got out or got them out thats part of the sport !!!!!!!!.
I for one object when people like you even think the racist card , its a credit to the players in this league that we all want to integrate after the game no matter who or where you're from .
Regards all .
Stu Maher
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11:33am Wed 16 Dec 09
A look back at Blackburn Northerns LT page shows enough about this chap.
Have a good Xmas one and all, and for all those clubs with non-UK qualified pros, you can now apply for your ECB endorsement for him - 3 months earlier than last year so there shouldn't be too many problems!
Mike Costa
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7:41am Thu 17 Dec 09
Stu Maher wrote:Mike Costa says:
Don't bite at Mr Costa's comments guys. He spends most of his day commenting on the LT website, particularly on stories that have any element of an ethnic minority issue. A look back at Blackburn Northerns LT page shows enough about this chap. Have a good Xmas one and all, and for all those clubs with non-UK qualified pros, you can now apply for your ECB endorsement for him - 3 months earlier than last year so there shouldn't be too many problems!
Thanks for that.
If you want an honest appraisal though, you should ask some of the many players that left Northern over the past 4 or 5 seasons just why they left. You may get a shock if you think it wasnt race related.
There is nothing wrong with a mix of asian and white players in a team, and most of the Asian guys at Northern were great. However, when the dressing room doesnt use English as its first language, and this carries on out in the field, then something is wrong. If that means that I am playing a race card, then so be it.
Gandalf has hit the nail on the head when he says they didnt want to go to the bar and talk cricket. Mostly, they didnt want to integrate. That's where my problem with an all asian club comes from. If you disagree with me, then you are entitled to your opinion. However, sweeping it under the carpet is not the answer.
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