PLAYERS, staff and management at Accrington Stanley had to wait for their pay packets this month after a mix-up in the club's accounting department.
Everyone at the club, including the players and chief executive Rob Heys, should have received their cash on Thursday May 1, but they did not receive their money until yesterday.
Mr Heys said the submission for direct payments through the Royal Bank of Scotland had been sent off a day late, and had a mistake in the accounting, meaning further delays.
The weekend and the bank holiday have exacerbated the problems for club staff, delaying the payments even further.
He said: "Everyone has been affected, including me. It should have been in on Thursday, but we didn't get the submission in until Friday, which meant we would have been paid then.
"Then the problem on the sheet meant we had to wait till after the Bank Holiday Monday."
I just have the one ulterior motive, Chris, and its that I just dont believe that people who abuse the trust of their position, of the fans who pay their wages, and of the true spirit of sporting contest should have any place in organised sporting competition.
im sorry if it offends you, just as cheats and scammers offend me, but i doubt they would ever apologise for it like i just have.
But thats up to them eh? Like you and Coleman say 'there is no proof'.
No proof other than 3 quarters of Stanleys players and management team live on Merseyside and that of the £250,000 wagered on Stanleys 'surprise' home defeat against Bury was placed where? Yep, Merseyside.
But i suppose you think Liverpools gamblers are just so much more shrewd at picking those winners than in the rest of the nations towns and cities do you Chris?
Maybe it is just one of those [italic]weird coincidences[/italic] eh?
Without this 'proof' that someone speaks of suppose thats all it will have to remain. But what if proof is found? What would the fine be? Points deductions from this season? next season? Could Stanley stand that? I doubt it very much.
Enjoy singing their names Chris, after all you've paid your money and thats up to you. And its up to them what they do with the money the fans pay as well, legal or not, provable or not.
And its up to me what i'll do with mine and i for one will not spend another bean at Stanleys ground until this situation is resolved. Thats just how i feel. I dont need 'proof' to make my mind up about whats gone on.
I just have the one ulterior motive, Chris, and its that I just dont believe that people who abuse the trust of their position, of the fans who pay their wages, and of the true spirit of sporting contest should have any place in organised sporting competition.
im sorry if it offends you, just as cheats and scammers offend me, but i doubt they would ever apologise for it like i just have.
But thats up to them eh? Like you and Coleman say 'there is no proof'.
No proof other than 3 quarters of Stanleys players and management team live on Merseyside and that of the £250,000 wagered on Stanleys 'surprise' home defeat against Bury was placed where? Yep, Merseyside.
But i suppose you think Liverpools gamblers are just so much more shrewd at picking those winners than in the rest of the nations towns and cities do you Chris?
Maybe it is just one of those weird coincidences eh?
Without this 'proof' that someone speaks of suppose thats all it will have to remain. But what if proof is found? What would the fine be? Points deductions from this season? next season? Could Stanley stand that? I doubt it very much.
Enjoy singing their names Chris, after all you've paid your money and thats up to you. And its up to them what they do with the money the fans pay as well, legal or not, provable or not.
And its up to me what i'll do with mine and i for one will not spend another bean at Stanleys ground until this situation is resolved. Thats just how i feel. I dont need 'proof' to make my mind up about whats gone on.
Some of the players must have been part of this betting irregularity and it's up to the club to find out who was part of it. The football league should be looking into it also. Whoever was betting these large sums of money needs to be identified and questioned by the police.
Some of the players must have been part of this betting irregularity and it's up to the club to find out who was part of it. The football league should be looking into it also. Whoever was betting these large sums of money needs to be identified and questioned by the police.
Posted by: johnny briggs, blackburn on 11:17pm Wed 7 May 08
I think rob has a point with a lot of the players and management staff being scousers. But i think i need to point out that the game between Peterbrough and ??? on the same day also had £175,000 total bets on it. That was still £100.000 more than third highest after... in that division.
Nothing has been said about this.
Also, Stanley have been nothing short of awful this year. I am suprised JC is still in a job.
I think rob has a point with a lot of the players and management staff being scousers. But i think i need to point out that the game between Peterbrough and ??? on the same day also had £175,000 total bets on it. That was still £100.000 more than third highest after... in that division.
Nothing has been said about this.
Also, Stanley have been nothing short of awful this year. I am suprised JC is still in a job.
Posted by: johnny briggs, blackburn on 11:27pm Wed 7 May 08
How about this.... the players did not get paid when they were supposed to this week... maybe someone took a big chunk of money out of the players wage bill, and as stanley were already safe from relegation and attendances have been down on last season, it was decided that instead of everyone going on holiday to tenerife this year they would like a nice holiday to the bahamas instead. Hence, wage bill was spent in different betting shops in Liverpool and Bury then won the game then wages were paid on Tuesday!!!
No good... ah well i tried!
How about this.... the players did not get paid when they were supposed to this week... maybe someone took a big chunk of money out of the players wage bill, and as stanley were already safe from relegation and attendances have been down on last season, it was decided that instead of everyone going on holiday to tenerife this year they would like a nice holiday to the bahamas instead. Hence, wage bill was spent in different betting shops in Liverpool and Bury then won the game then wages were paid on Tuesday!!!
No good... ah well i tried!
Posted by: Rob, Accrington on 10:16am Thu 8 May 08
Im sorry but i doubt that Johnny, a bit too obvious!
My guess, and im turning into Miss Marple here - its only my guess, is that it doesnt take a brain surgeon to work out that [italic]if[/italic] this has gone on it stems from some or all of the Liverpool connection at the club - thats the implication being levelled by the papers.
So lets analyse it a bit. Stanley didnt have a big squad anyway and 11 have been released. Its doubtful any of that 11 were involved (as IF it stems from one or more of the top brass in the changing room) as you wouldnt want to sack anyone who you have just commited a crime with would you.
The scousers that are left are where i would be looking. Plenty of time to joke about it when you share cars from Liverpool and back to training everyday.
Then after the joking you could start to casually justify it by saying 'well we only have a short career, and we've our families to think of, we get payed less than most clubs anyway, the seasons over so what does it matter anyway'.
Then it could be just one who says 'yeah why not, shall we, im up for it?' followed by a nervous silence then the odd 'well we'd need to plan it' and those who arnt sure but dont want to go against the grain end up nodding their heads.... etc etc etc and then its done.
But then you are rumbled.
And 'proof' or no 'proof' (and i work with criminals for my job and believe me when someone starts saying [italic]'but theres no proof'[/italic] that [bold]usually[/bold], but not always, signifies guilt) i will not be attending that ground again until the people [bold]i[/bold] believe are behind this are gone.
And long may they regret their decision to shaft competetive sport up the backside.
They dont deserve to enjoy sport again.
But of course i may be wrong. It may just be one big coincidence that lots of people from Liverpool decided to place lots of money on Stanley losing to Bury in a no-mark game that was missed by the rest of the countries gamblers. Stranger things have happened. or so im told.
Im sorry but i doubt that Johnny, a bit too obvious!
My guess, and im turning into Miss Marple here - its only my guess, is that it doesnt take a brain surgeon to work out that if this has gone on it stems from some or all of the Liverpool connection at the club - thats the implication being levelled by the papers.
So lets analyse it a bit. Stanley didnt have a big squad anyway and 11 have been released. Its doubtful any of that 11 were involved (as IF it stems from one or more of the top brass in the changing room) as you wouldnt want to sack anyone who you have just commited a crime with would you.
The scousers that are left are where i would be looking. Plenty of time to joke about it when you share cars from Liverpool and back to training everyday.
Then after the joking you could start to casually justify it by saying 'well we only have a short career, and we've our families to think of, we get payed less than most clubs anyway, the seasons over so what does it matter anyway'.
Then it could be just one who says 'yeah why not, shall we, im up for it?' followed by a nervous silence then the odd 'well we'd need to plan it' and those who arnt sure but dont want to go against the grain end up nodding their heads.... etc etc etc and then its done.
But then you are rumbled.
And 'proof' or no 'proof' (and i work with criminals for my job and believe me when someone starts saying 'but theres no proof' that usually, but not always, signifies guilt) i will not be attending that ground again until the people i believe are behind this are gone.
And long may they regret their decision to shaft competetive sport up the backside.
They dont deserve to enjoy sport again.
But of course i may be wrong. It may just be one big coincidence that lots of people from Liverpool decided to place lots of money on Stanley losing to Bury in a no-mark game that was missed by the rest of the countries gamblers. Stranger things have happened. or so im told.
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