Furious Bowyer blasts Rovers for abject derby performance

Gary Bowyer

Gary Bowyer

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ANGRY Blackburn Rovers boss Gary Bowyer said there were ‘no excuses’ for his side’s 4-0 derby drubbing at Bolton on Saturday.

Rovers were without captain Grant Hanley and star midfielder Tom Cairney and wasted opportunities to score before Medo set Bolton on the way to their biggest victory over their neighbours for 86 years.

Bowyer also lost his only fit and available centre-back, Matt Kilgallon, to injury.

But he refused to look for any mitigating circumstances for a defeat which, a week after they had won at Reading, left Rovers six points off the play-offs in 10th.

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Bowyer said: “There are no excuses. We can’t perform like we did against Reading and then a week later come here for a local derby and perform like that.

“We demanded passion but I don’t think we got enough from the players on that.

“Obviously the centre-half position didn’t help but no excuses. When you pull on the jersey for Rovers we expect more than what we got.”

But Bowyer did admit the outcome may have been different had stand-in skipper Jordan Rhodes opened the scoring.

He said: “I think the first goal was crucial. Their keeper has made two outstanding saves and then we’ve conceded four poor goals from the standards we’ve set ourselves.”

When asked for a message for the 2,743 travelling supporters, Bowyer said: “I was hugely disappointed for them because they turned out in their thousands and they were very vocal.

“They continued to back us in the second half and I thank them for that and they can rest assured we are as angry as them if not more so.”

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9:30am Mon 3 Mar 14

Harwoodstblue says...

Unlucky with injuries I know but GB's tactics have been questionable all season. Let's hope that the Bolton result acts as a kick up the backside and take it out on the visitors next Sunday. We've been so inconsistent all season no-one knows 'which Rovers' will walk out onto the pitch next week. Hope some of the injured are back.
Unlucky with injuries I know but GB's tactics have been questionable all season. Let's hope that the Bolton result acts as a kick up the backside and take it out on the visitors next Sunday. We've been so inconsistent all season no-one knows 'which Rovers' will walk out onto the pitch next week. Hope some of the injured are back. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 17

9:31am Mon 3 Mar 14

unclejacklegend says...

I'm as pi$$ed off as the next Rovers can after Saturday but I think we can all accept that reaching the play offs this season was a tall order. For me, GB has done an awesome job considering he's had to buy and sell an entire squad in one season without spending any money, he's not getting the credit he deserves. That said, the squad still needs major improvement in most areas to be competitive next season which I think Bowyer is more than capable of doing especially when you Look at the quality he had already recruited ( Marshall cairney Evans spurr gestede kilgallon Conway ) The hardest part is going to be keeping the boo boys quiet for another 6 months.
I'm as pi$$ed off as the next Rovers can after Saturday but I think we can all accept that reaching the play offs this season was a tall order. For me, GB has done an awesome job considering he's had to buy and sell an entire squad in one season without spending any money, he's not getting the credit he deserves. That said, the squad still needs major improvement in most areas to be competitive next season which I think Bowyer is more than capable of doing especially when you Look at the quality he had already recruited ( Marshall cairney Evans spurr gestede kilgallon Conway ) The hardest part is going to be keeping the boo boys quiet for another 6 months. unclejacklegend
  • Score: 38

9:37am Mon 3 Mar 14

dangerous dave says...

Your chosen squad, poor acquisitiions and inadequate cover in major positions of play , inexperience all round in a league that demands strong management and solid experienced players we lack on both parts
Out with the cowboys and indians
Your chosen squad, poor acquisitiions and inadequate cover in major positions of play , inexperience all round in a league that demands strong management and solid experienced players we lack on both parts Out with the cowboys and indians dangerous dave
  • Score: -33

9:47am Mon 3 Mar 14

owd nick says...

unclejacklegend wrote:
I'm as pi$$ed off as the next Rovers can after Saturday but I think we can all accept that reaching the play offs this season was a tall order. For me, GB has done an awesome job considering he's had to buy and sell an entire squad in one season without spending any money, he's not getting the credit he deserves. That said, the squad still needs major improvement in most areas to be competitive next season which I think Bowyer is more than capable of doing especially when you Look at the quality he had already recruited ( Marshall cairney Evans spurr gestede kilgallon Conway ) The hardest part is going to be keeping the boo boys quiet for another 6 months.
The hardest point will be keeping the boo boys quiet after Sunday if we lose.

I will keep saying it until I am blue in the face, two defensive midfielders will not work, apart from getting in each others way Williamson simply isn't up to it.

Everytime he starts a game we start the game with 10 men.

Two defensive midfielders sends out the wrong message "We are scared" to our opponents whoever they are, and to do it at home is appalling, GB needs to seriously look at his tactics now, otherwise he risks undoing all the good work he has done so far and even worse give the boo boys the chance to stick the knife in.

If we go for a win and get beat then at least we can say we gave it a go, if we sit back and lose then he will deserve everything he gets.

And that will be plenty.
[quote][p][bold]unclejacklegend[/bold] wrote: I'm as pi$$ed off as the next Rovers can after Saturday but I think we can all accept that reaching the play offs this season was a tall order. For me, GB has done an awesome job considering he's had to buy and sell an entire squad in one season without spending any money, he's not getting the credit he deserves. That said, the squad still needs major improvement in most areas to be competitive next season which I think Bowyer is more than capable of doing especially when you Look at the quality he had already recruited ( Marshall cairney Evans spurr gestede kilgallon Conway ) The hardest part is going to be keeping the boo boys quiet for another 6 months.[/p][/quote]The hardest point will be keeping the boo boys quiet after Sunday if we lose. I will keep saying it until I am blue in the face, two defensive midfielders will not work, apart from getting in each others way Williamson simply isn't up to it. Everytime he starts a game we start the game with 10 men. Two defensive midfielders sends out the wrong message "We are scared" to our opponents whoever they are, and to do it at home is appalling, GB needs to seriously look at his tactics now, otherwise he risks undoing all the good work he has done so far and even worse give the boo boys the chance to stick the knife in. If we go for a win and get beat then at least we can say we gave it a go, if we sit back and lose then he will deserve everything he gets. And that will be plenty. owd nick
  • Score: 12

9:48am Mon 3 Mar 14

TurfMoorTom says...

Add a centre half or two (very unlucky situation to be so exposed but at the end of the day there should have been back up) and I'd say the squad looks strong enough (Lee Williamson is a squad player though and getting far too much first team action). What the Championship needs is organisation and commitment - if you can get that next season from a growing team then you'll do well.
Add a centre half or two (very unlucky situation to be so exposed but at the end of the day there should have been back up) and I'd say the squad looks strong enough (Lee Williamson is a squad player though and getting far too much first team action). What the Championship needs is organisation and commitment - if you can get that next season from a growing team then you'll do well. TurfMoorTom
  • Score: 16

9:55am Mon 3 Mar 14

Manuel Hung says...

Suck it up losers!!

Agent GB the bib & cone man is doing a stirling job. Keep up the good work!!
Suck it up losers!! Agent GB the bib & cone man is doing a stirling job. Keep up the good work!! Manuel Hung
  • Score: -21

10:09am Mon 3 Mar 14

McClaret says...

Be nice to see the same headline next Monday morning.
Be nice to see the same headline next Monday morning. McClaret
  • Score: -7

10:32am Mon 3 Mar 14

J.C - Rishton says...

unclejacklegend wrote:
I'm as pi$$ed off as the next Rovers can after Saturday but I think we can all accept that reaching the play offs this season was a tall order. For me, GB has done an awesome job considering he's had to buy and sell an entire squad in one season without spending any money, he's not getting the credit he deserves. That said, the squad still needs major improvement in most areas to be competitive next season which I think Bowyer is more than capable of doing especially when you Look at the quality he had already recruited ( Marshall cairney Evans spurr gestede kilgallon Conway ) The hardest part is going to be keeping the boo boys quiet for another 6 months.
I agree with you about GB having done a great job rebuiling the squad this season and hasnt received the plaudits he should have.

However I think you are deluding yourself if you think Rovers can continue building next season.

We will automatically be £8m worse off from June (losing the last of our parachute payments) and we will already have to cut our existing costs and wage bill further (not including the £8m) therefore in reality the club will have to find savings of at least £15-20m.

This will mean that Rhodes (certainly), Hanley & Robinson (almost certainly) and Cairney (possibly) will go - and be replaced by cheaper, younger, more inexperienced replacements.

Then on 1st Jan 2015 we will be hit with a transfer embargo.

Given all this it will be an achiement for GB just to keep us up next season. This summer is when the reality of our dire financial situation will become a tangible reality - something that I don't think most Rovers fans on here really have been able to understand so far. The enormity of it and the fact that it will consume almost every aspect of the club.

I'm not trying to be negative or "doom-mongering" - the figures regarding our imcomes, forcasted incomes, losses, forcasted future losses and the required losses (by the FL) are all published - and they are frightening.

Shaw and Bowyer have done well this season to cut the wage bill whilst keeping us competitive but the costs needed to be implemented in the next 9 months will dewarf those seen in the last 12 months.
[quote][p][bold]unclejacklegend[/bold] wrote: I'm as pi$$ed off as the next Rovers can after Saturday but I think we can all accept that reaching the play offs this season was a tall order. For me, GB has done an awesome job considering he's had to buy and sell an entire squad in one season without spending any money, he's not getting the credit he deserves. That said, the squad still needs major improvement in most areas to be competitive next season which I think Bowyer is more than capable of doing especially when you Look at the quality he had already recruited ( Marshall cairney Evans spurr gestede kilgallon Conway ) The hardest part is going to be keeping the boo boys quiet for another 6 months.[/p][/quote]I agree with you about GB having done a great job rebuiling the squad this season and hasnt received the plaudits he should have. However I think you are deluding yourself if you think Rovers can continue building next season. We will automatically be £8m worse off from June (losing the last of our parachute payments) and we will already have to cut our existing costs and wage bill further (not including the £8m) therefore in reality the club will have to find savings of at least £15-20m. This will mean that Rhodes (certainly), Hanley & Robinson (almost certainly) and Cairney (possibly) will go - and be replaced by cheaper, younger, more inexperienced replacements. Then on 1st Jan 2015 we will be hit with a transfer embargo. Given all this it will be an achiement for GB just to keep us up next season. This summer is when the reality of our dire financial situation will become a tangible reality - something that I don't think most Rovers fans on here really have been able to understand so far. The enormity of it and the fact that it will consume almost every aspect of the club. I'm not trying to be negative or "doom-mongering" - the figures regarding our imcomes, forcasted incomes, losses, forcasted future losses and the required losses (by the FL) are all published - and they are frightening. Shaw and Bowyer have done well this season to cut the wage bill whilst keeping us competitive but the costs needed to be implemented in the next 9 months will dewarf those seen in the last 12 months. J.C - Rishton
  • Score: 2

10:33am Mon 3 Mar 14

Tatts says...

Let's not get too down about one result, even if it was a thrashing. For me, getting beaten by Bolton only hurts as much as losing to any random club.

So long as Hanley, Cairney and Kilgallon are fit for Sunday, we should be able to put up a good fight.

The line up I'm hoping to see on Sunday is as follows:

Robinson
Henley
Spurr
Hanley
Kilgallon
Cairney
Evans
Lowe
Conway
Dunn
Rhodes

Bit of a shame to leave Gestede out, but you can't leave Dunny out for the Derby!

Bring on the Dingles!
Let's not get too down about one result, even if it was a thrashing. For me, getting beaten by Bolton only hurts as much as losing to any random club. So long as Hanley, Cairney and Kilgallon are fit for Sunday, we should be able to put up a good fight. The line up I'm hoping to see on Sunday is as follows: Robinson Henley Spurr Hanley Kilgallon Cairney Evans Lowe Conway Dunn Rhodes Bit of a shame to leave Gestede out, but you can't leave Dunny out for the Derby! Bring on the Dingles! Tatts
  • Score: 5

10:36am Mon 3 Mar 14

dallydally says...

I never understand why players turn up one week but not the next. They are professionals for goodness sake! The Championship is full of inconsistency though apart from two teams who are deservedly first and second. I agree with most of the comments above. GB needs some defensive cover and quick and its critical that we have Cairney and Hanley back next Sunday. Oh and lets hope that Dunnie is fit; he'll be up for it like no-one else and always makes a huge difference to the way Rovers play.
I never understand why players turn up one week but not the next. They are professionals for goodness sake! The Championship is full of inconsistency though apart from two teams who are deservedly first and second. I agree with most of the comments above. GB needs some defensive cover and quick and its critical that we have Cairney and Hanley back next Sunday. Oh and lets hope that Dunnie is fit; he'll be up for it like no-one else and always makes a huge difference to the way Rovers play. dallydally
  • Score: 7

10:37am Mon 3 Mar 14

A Rover 45 years and over says...

Hope you are angry with yourself Gary because that performance was down to you with the way you set the team up and instruct them to play. You will inist on trying to contain teams from the off on most occasions rather than getting at them. This style of play can only be exhausting for the players having to run round all the time trying to stop the other team playing and may be eventually getting to the players. Tommy Spur right side Centre back, why not left side ?. Two young kids on the bench that did not include a centre back, why ?. You continue to play two defensive midfielders when you have other options on the bench, why ?. You always seem to play Gestede behind Rhodes, surely this must be the other way round if you must insist onlplaying this way instead of the two up front together why ? This should have been a game for Dunn to come in and do his stuff but once again he wasn't available when needed why ?. Only a top performance against Burnley will make up for this shocking result and please don't sit back against this lot or we will be punished.
Hope you are angry with yourself Gary because that performance was down to you with the way you set the team up and instruct them to play. You will inist on trying to contain teams from the off on most occasions rather than getting at them. This style of play can only be exhausting for the players having to run round all the time trying to stop the other team playing and may be eventually getting to the players. Tommy Spur right side Centre back, why not left side ?. Two young kids on the bench that did not include a centre back, why ?. You continue to play two defensive midfielders when you have other options on the bench, why ?. You always seem to play Gestede behind Rhodes, surely this must be the other way round if you must insist onlplaying this way instead of the two up front together why ? This should have been a game for Dunn to come in and do his stuff but once again he wasn't available when needed why ?. Only a top performance against Burnley will make up for this shocking result and please don't sit back against this lot or we will be punished. A Rover 45 years and over
  • Score: 16

10:51am Mon 3 Mar 14

Champagne plus charlie says...

Wow, I can only imagine what a 'furious' Gary Bowyer is like lol.

His dull-as-dishwater monotone voice makes Gary Barlow sound expressive.
Wow, I can only imagine what a 'furious' Gary Bowyer is like lol. His dull-as-dishwater monotone voice makes Gary Barlow sound expressive. Champagne plus charlie
  • Score: 1

10:55am Mon 3 Mar 14

DanBlackburn says...

J.C - Rishton wrote:
unclejacklegend wrote:
I'm as pi$$ed off as the next Rovers can after Saturday but I think we can all accept that reaching the play offs this season was a tall order. For me, GB has done an awesome job considering he's had to buy and sell an entire squad in one season without spending any money, he's not getting the credit he deserves. That said, the squad still needs major improvement in most areas to be competitive next season which I think Bowyer is more than capable of doing especially when you Look at the quality he had already recruited ( Marshall cairney Evans spurr gestede kilgallon Conway ) The hardest part is going to be keeping the boo boys quiet for another 6 months.
I agree with you about GB having done a great job rebuiling the squad this season and hasnt received the plaudits he should have.

However I think you are deluding yourself if you think Rovers can continue building next season.

We will automatically be £8m worse off from June (losing the last of our parachute payments) and we will already have to cut our existing costs and wage bill further (not including the £8m) therefore in reality the club will have to find savings of at least £15-20m.

This will mean that Rhodes (certainly), Hanley & Robinson (almost certainly) and Cairney (possibly) will go - and be replaced by cheaper, younger, more inexperienced replacements.

Then on 1st Jan 2015 we will be hit with a transfer embargo.

Given all this it will be an achiement for GB just to keep us up next season. This summer is when the reality of our dire financial situation will become a tangible reality - something that I don't think most Rovers fans on here really have been able to understand so far. The enormity of it and the fact that it will consume almost every aspect of the club.

I'm not trying to be negative or "doom-mongering
" - the figures regarding our imcomes, forcasted incomes, losses, forcasted future losses and the required losses (by the FL) are all published - and they are frightening.

Shaw and Bowyer have done well this season to cut the wage bill whilst keeping us competitive but the costs needed to be implemented in the next 9 months will dewarf those seen in the last 12 months.
The FFP rules can and will be by-passed, as many of the top Premiership clubs will prove. All it needs is for Vile Venkys to put their money where their mouth is (just a saying as they never communicate as we know).
They can create sponsorship deals for the ground, the shirts, almost anything and this is classified as legitimate income.
The rules on net losses (£3m - £8m) are after all sources of income. If they are serious about Rovers regaining their Premiership status they will find a way.
Unfortunately I fear the silent Loons from Pune have already written us off. Operation Destroy Blackburn Rovers is almost complete.
Please don't let us lose to the Dingles on Sunday. We have little else to cling to.
Its shocking how I much I hate Venkys. Corrosive. Yet I still turn up week in week out. I must be mad.
[quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]unclejacklegend[/bold] wrote: I'm as pi$$ed off as the next Rovers can after Saturday but I think we can all accept that reaching the play offs this season was a tall order. For me, GB has done an awesome job considering he's had to buy and sell an entire squad in one season without spending any money, he's not getting the credit he deserves. That said, the squad still needs major improvement in most areas to be competitive next season which I think Bowyer is more than capable of doing especially when you Look at the quality he had already recruited ( Marshall cairney Evans spurr gestede kilgallon Conway ) The hardest part is going to be keeping the boo boys quiet for another 6 months.[/p][/quote]I agree with you about GB having done a great job rebuiling the squad this season and hasnt received the plaudits he should have. However I think you are deluding yourself if you think Rovers can continue building next season. We will automatically be £8m worse off from June (losing the last of our parachute payments) and we will already have to cut our existing costs and wage bill further (not including the £8m) therefore in reality the club will have to find savings of at least £15-20m. This will mean that Rhodes (certainly), Hanley & Robinson (almost certainly) and Cairney (possibly) will go - and be replaced by cheaper, younger, more inexperienced replacements. Then on 1st Jan 2015 we will be hit with a transfer embargo. Given all this it will be an achiement for GB just to keep us up next season. This summer is when the reality of our dire financial situation will become a tangible reality - something that I don't think most Rovers fans on here really have been able to understand so far. The enormity of it and the fact that it will consume almost every aspect of the club. I'm not trying to be negative or "doom-mongering " - the figures regarding our imcomes, forcasted incomes, losses, forcasted future losses and the required losses (by the FL) are all published - and they are frightening. Shaw and Bowyer have done well this season to cut the wage bill whilst keeping us competitive but the costs needed to be implemented in the next 9 months will dewarf those seen in the last 12 months.[/p][/quote]The FFP rules can and will be by-passed, as many of the top Premiership clubs will prove. All it needs is for Vile Venkys to put their money where their mouth is (just a saying as they never communicate as we know). They can create sponsorship deals for the ground, the shirts, almost anything and this is classified as legitimate income. The rules on net losses (£3m - £8m) are after all sources of income. If they are serious about Rovers regaining their Premiership status they will find a way. Unfortunately I fear the silent Loons from Pune have already written us off. Operation Destroy Blackburn Rovers is almost complete. Please don't let us lose to the Dingles on Sunday. We have little else to cling to. Its shocking how I much I hate Venkys. Corrosive. Yet I still turn up week in week out. I must be mad. DanBlackburn
  • Score: 3

11:04am Mon 3 Mar 14

Riverside 7 says...

There was a definite lack of passion on Saturday but why?

We were 4 points of the play-off’s with a game in hand, we were playing away in a local derby and had a large vocal backing behind us - yet we didn’t seem interested.

We appeared to lack any motivation whatsoever and were 2nd to every ball.
Who do I blame for that?
Well I would say it is the manager’s responsibility to send out his team in the right frame of mind.
I sincerely hope that this doesn’t happen again on Sunday otherwise GB will get some flak.

GB further disrupted the back four by playing left footed Spurr as a right sided centre-back.
and as a result of the Lowe / Wiiliamson pairing in central midfield we defended far too deeply – how many times has this happened this season?
It simply gives the opposition an invitation to attack and impose themselves on us.
I just cannot understand why Bowyer is the only person who can’t see this.

Earlier in the season everyone (me included) were shouting for a target man to play up front alongside Rhodes. I assumed that this would mean that the target man would be the one challenging the opposition centre backs for headers, and allowing Rhodes to feed off any flicks etc.
However, Gestede appears to be playing ‘in the hole’ behind Rhodes, leaving Rhodes to battle against the likes of Knight and Wheater. Physically it was no-contest.
In the 2nd half, Gestede was playing wide right – what a waste.

UncleJackledgend talks about GB recruitment successes but not about his failures.
What about Marrow, Judge, Songo’o, Dabo, Taylor, Eastwood etc.

GB has signed a total of 19 players (including loan signings) yet in the last 2 league games at Reading and Bolton, our starting eleven contained more players who were already at Ewood before he became boss.
And I feel that he still doesn’t even know his best team.

Assuming these players are fit, I would have Cairney and Evans in the centre of midfield, Conway and King out wide and start with Dunn just behind Rhodes.
The strength and pace of Josh King has troubled Burnley in the past, and although he isn’t a favourite of mine, we need to take a risk on his fitness and try to win the game.

At the back it all depends on the fitness of Kilgallon and Hanley and whether we are able to bring in a centre back in time.
We should never have been in this position, with central defenders out on loan at other clubs.
There was a definite lack of passion on Saturday but why? We were 4 points of the play-off’s with a game in hand, we were playing away in a local derby and had a large vocal backing behind us - yet we didn’t seem interested. We appeared to lack any motivation whatsoever and were 2nd to every ball. Who do I blame for that? Well I would say it is the manager’s responsibility to send out his team in the right frame of mind. I sincerely hope that this doesn’t happen again on Sunday otherwise GB will get some flak. GB further disrupted the back four by playing left footed Spurr as a right sided centre-back. and as a result of the Lowe / Wiiliamson pairing in central midfield we defended far too deeply – how many times has this happened this season? It simply gives the opposition an invitation to attack and impose themselves on us. I just cannot understand why Bowyer is the only person who can’t see this. Earlier in the season everyone (me included) were shouting for a target man to play up front alongside Rhodes. I assumed that this would mean that the target man would be the one challenging the opposition centre backs for headers, and allowing Rhodes to feed off any flicks etc. However, Gestede appears to be playing ‘in the hole’ behind Rhodes, leaving Rhodes to battle against the likes of Knight and Wheater. Physically it was no-contest. In the 2nd half, Gestede was playing wide right – what a waste. UncleJackledgend talks about GB recruitment successes but not about his failures. What about Marrow, Judge, Songo’o, Dabo, Taylor, Eastwood etc. GB has signed a total of 19 players (including loan signings) yet in the last 2 league games at Reading and Bolton, our starting eleven contained more players who were already at Ewood before he became boss. And I feel that he still doesn’t even know his best team. Assuming these players are fit, I would have Cairney and Evans in the centre of midfield, Conway and King out wide and start with Dunn just behind Rhodes. The strength and pace of Josh King has troubled Burnley in the past, and although he isn’t a favourite of mine, we need to take a risk on his fitness and try to win the game. At the back it all depends on the fitness of Kilgallon and Hanley and whether we are able to bring in a centre back in time. We should never have been in this position, with central defenders out on loan at other clubs. Riverside 7
  • Score: 11

11:07am Mon 3 Mar 14

bigste says...

Certainly not playoff material, too inconsistant all season. This was unexpected but it's all season that gets you in the playoffs and we just aren't good enough. Standby for a drubbing on Sunday.
Certainly not playoff material, too inconsistant all season. This was unexpected but it's all season that gets you in the playoffs and we just aren't good enough. Standby for a drubbing on Sunday. bigste
  • Score: 7

11:10am Mon 3 Mar 14

Tatts says...

Champagne plus charlie wrote:
Wow, I can only imagine what a 'furious' Gary Bowyer is like lol.

His dull-as-dishwater monotone voice makes Gary Barlow sound expressive.
Dyche's voice sounds like a 60-a-day man who has swallowed a packet of razor blades
[quote][p][bold]Champagne plus charlie[/bold] wrote: Wow, I can only imagine what a 'furious' Gary Bowyer is like lol. His dull-as-dishwater monotone voice makes Gary Barlow sound expressive.[/p][/quote]Dyche's voice sounds like a 60-a-day man who has swallowed a packet of razor blades Tatts
  • Score: 2

11:21am Mon 3 Mar 14

Champagne plus charlie says...

Tatts wrote:
Champagne plus charlie wrote:
Wow, I can only imagine what a 'furious' Gary Bowyer is like lol.

His dull-as-dishwater monotone voice makes Gary Barlow sound expressive.
Dyche's voice sounds like a 60-a-day man who has swallowed a packet of razor blades
Agreed, but if you needed manager to give a half time bollocking to an underperforming team which of the two would you want to give it?

Mr Boring Bowyer or Ginger Mourinho?
[quote][p][bold]Tatts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Champagne plus charlie[/bold] wrote: Wow, I can only imagine what a 'furious' Gary Bowyer is like lol. His dull-as-dishwater monotone voice makes Gary Barlow sound expressive.[/p][/quote]Dyche's voice sounds like a 60-a-day man who has swallowed a packet of razor blades[/p][/quote]Agreed, but if you needed manager to give a half time bollocking to an underperforming team which of the two would you want to give it? Mr Boring Bowyer or Ginger Mourinho? Champagne plus charlie
  • Score: 2

11:25am Mon 3 Mar 14

look.up.blackburn says...

DanBlackburn wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
unclejacklegend wrote:
I'm as pi$$ed off as the next Rovers can after Saturday but I think we can all accept that reaching the play offs this season was a tall order. For me, GB has done an awesome job considering he's had to buy and sell an entire squad in one season without spending any money, he's not getting the credit he deserves. That said, the squad still needs major improvement in most areas to be competitive next season which I think Bowyer is more than capable of doing especially when you Look at the quality he had already recruited ( Marshall cairney Evans spurr gestede kilgallon Conway ) The hardest part is going to be keeping the boo boys quiet for another 6 months.
I agree with you about GB having done a great job rebuiling the squad this season and hasnt received the plaudits he should have.

However I think you are deluding yourself if you think Rovers can continue building next season.

We will automatically be £8m worse off from June (losing the last of our parachute payments) and we will already have to cut our existing costs and wage bill further (not including the £8m) therefore in reality the club will have to find savings of at least £15-20m.

This will mean that Rhodes (certainly), Hanley & Robinson (almost certainly) and Cairney (possibly) will go - and be replaced by cheaper, younger, more inexperienced replacements.

Then on 1st Jan 2015 we will be hit with a transfer embargo.

Given all this it will be an achiement for GB just to keep us up next season. This summer is when the reality of our dire financial situation will become a tangible reality - something that I don't think most Rovers fans on here really have been able to understand so far. The enormity of it and the fact that it will consume almost every aspect of the club.

I'm not trying to be negative or "doom-mongering

" - the figures regarding our imcomes, forcasted incomes, losses, forcasted future losses and the required losses (by the FL) are all published - and they are frightening.

Shaw and Bowyer have done well this season to cut the wage bill whilst keeping us competitive but the costs needed to be implemented in the next 9 months will dewarf those seen in the last 12 months.
The FFP rules can and will be by-passed, as many of the top Premiership clubs will prove. All it needs is for Vile Venkys to put their money where their mouth is (just a saying as they never communicate as we know).
They can create sponsorship deals for the ground, the shirts, almost anything and this is classified as legitimate income.
The rules on net losses (£3m - £8m) are after all sources of income. If they are serious about Rovers regaining their Premiership status they will find a way.
Unfortunately I fear the silent Loons from Pune have already written us off. Operation Destroy Blackburn Rovers is almost complete.
Please don't let us lose to the Dingles on Sunday. We have little else to cling to.
Its shocking how I much I hate Venkys. Corrosive. Yet I still turn up week in week out. I must be mad.
"The FFP rules can and will be by-passed.."

Typical Blackburn Rovers arrogance once again. Thinking that the rules that govern all are not applicable to your football club. What a moron you are.

FFP aims to reduce the levels of losses being incurred at football clubs and, over time, establish a league of financially self-sustaining professional football clubs.

The rules are agreed and in place with punishments to non-compliant Championship clubs to be handed out in April/May 2014. You seem to persist with this misguided notion that you can STILL buy your way out of trouble, its astounding arrogance, it really is. You clearly understand nothing of the financial tsunami about to engulf your tin-pot football club next season.

Firstly, the Premier League and Championship rules are worlds apart. The maximum permitted Premier League loss is £105million over 3 seasons whereas the maximum permitted Championship loss is currently £8million (if the owners inject £5million equity).

However, the permitted level of acceptable deviation and shareholder equity investment will reduce further over time from £3m and £5m respectively to £2m and £3m by 2015/16.

Clubs that fail to comply with the Financial Fair Play regulations (from December 1st 2014) will be subject to a transfer embargo. This embargo will come in to force ahead of the subsequent transfer window beginning on January 1, 2015. The embargo will remain in place until the club is able to lodge financial information that demonstrates that it meets the Financial Fair Play regulations. For a club such as Blackburn Rovers currently losing £36.5million a season, this could be some considerable time.

The top and bottom of it is that Blackburn Rovers will be ripped apart by FFP. You have enjoyed the good times and bought yourself a few years in the big league but you are now paying the price and need to accept your future is in the lower leagues. You will more than likely start the 2015 season as a League One club. Ironically the league title that you bought all those years ago could ultimately bring about the end of Blackburn Rovers.

This is not scaremongering, this is all fact, unfortunately for you.

http://www.financial
fairplay.co.uk/finan
cial-fair-play-expla
ined.php
[quote][p][bold]DanBlackburn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]unclejacklegend[/bold] wrote: I'm as pi$$ed off as the next Rovers can after Saturday but I think we can all accept that reaching the play offs this season was a tall order. For me, GB has done an awesome job considering he's had to buy and sell an entire squad in one season without spending any money, he's not getting the credit he deserves. That said, the squad still needs major improvement in most areas to be competitive next season which I think Bowyer is more than capable of doing especially when you Look at the quality he had already recruited ( Marshall cairney Evans spurr gestede kilgallon Conway ) The hardest part is going to be keeping the boo boys quiet for another 6 months.[/p][/quote]I agree with you about GB having done a great job rebuiling the squad this season and hasnt received the plaudits he should have. However I think you are deluding yourself if you think Rovers can continue building next season. We will automatically be £8m worse off from June (losing the last of our parachute payments) and we will already have to cut our existing costs and wage bill further (not including the £8m) therefore in reality the club will have to find savings of at least £15-20m. This will mean that Rhodes (certainly), Hanley & Robinson (almost certainly) and Cairney (possibly) will go - and be replaced by cheaper, younger, more inexperienced replacements. Then on 1st Jan 2015 we will be hit with a transfer embargo. Given all this it will be an achiement for GB just to keep us up next season. This summer is when the reality of our dire financial situation will become a tangible reality - something that I don't think most Rovers fans on here really have been able to understand so far. The enormity of it and the fact that it will consume almost every aspect of the club. I'm not trying to be negative or "doom-mongering " - the figures regarding our imcomes, forcasted incomes, losses, forcasted future losses and the required losses (by the FL) are all published - and they are frightening. Shaw and Bowyer have done well this season to cut the wage bill whilst keeping us competitive but the costs needed to be implemented in the next 9 months will dewarf those seen in the last 12 months.[/p][/quote]The FFP rules can and will be by-passed, as many of the top Premiership clubs will prove. All it needs is for Vile Venkys to put their money where their mouth is (just a saying as they never communicate as we know). They can create sponsorship deals for the ground, the shirts, almost anything and this is classified as legitimate income. The rules on net losses (£3m - £8m) are after all sources of income. If they are serious about Rovers regaining their Premiership status they will find a way. Unfortunately I fear the silent Loons from Pune have already written us off. Operation Destroy Blackburn Rovers is almost complete. Please don't let us lose to the Dingles on Sunday. We have little else to cling to. Its shocking how I much I hate Venkys. Corrosive. Yet I still turn up week in week out. I must be mad.[/p][/quote]"The FFP rules can and will be by-passed.." Typical Blackburn Rovers arrogance once again. Thinking that the rules that govern all are not applicable to your football club. What a moron you are. FFP aims to reduce the levels of losses being incurred at football clubs and, over time, establish a league of financially self-sustaining professional football clubs. The rules are agreed and in place with punishments to non-compliant Championship clubs to be handed out in April/May 2014. You seem to persist with this misguided notion that you can STILL buy your way out of trouble, its astounding arrogance, it really is. You clearly understand nothing of the financial tsunami about to engulf your tin-pot football club next season. Firstly, the Premier League and Championship rules are worlds apart. The maximum permitted Premier League loss is £105million over 3 seasons whereas the maximum permitted Championship loss is currently £8million (if the owners inject £5million equity). However, the permitted level of acceptable deviation and shareholder equity investment will reduce further over time from £3m and £5m respectively to £2m and £3m by 2015/16. Clubs that fail to comply with the Financial Fair Play regulations (from December 1st 2014) will be subject to a transfer embargo. This embargo will come in to force ahead of the subsequent transfer window beginning on January 1, 2015. The embargo will remain in place until the club is able to lodge financial information that demonstrates that it meets the Financial Fair Play regulations. For a club such as Blackburn Rovers currently losing £36.5million a season, this could be some considerable time. The top and bottom of it is that Blackburn Rovers will be ripped apart by FFP. You have enjoyed the good times and bought yourself a few years in the big league but you are now paying the price and need to accept your future is in the lower leagues. You will more than likely start the 2015 season as a League One club. Ironically the league title that you bought all those years ago could ultimately bring about the end of Blackburn Rovers. This is not scaremongering, this is all fact, unfortunately for you. http://www.financial fairplay.co.uk/finan cial-fair-play-expla ined.php look.up.blackburn
  • Score: -6

11:27am Mon 3 Mar 14

owd nick says...

J.C - Rishton wrote:
unclejacklegend wrote:
I'm as pi$$ed off as the next Rovers can after Saturday but I think we can all accept that reaching the play offs this season was a tall order. For me, GB has done an awesome job considering he's had to buy and sell an entire squad in one season without spending any money, he's not getting the credit he deserves. That said, the squad still needs major improvement in most areas to be competitive next season which I think Bowyer is more than capable of doing especially when you Look at the quality he had already recruited ( Marshall cairney Evans spurr gestede kilgallon Conway ) The hardest part is going to be keeping the boo boys quiet for another 6 months.
I agree with you about GB having done a great job rebuiling the squad this season and hasnt received the plaudits he should have.

However I think you are deluding yourself if you think Rovers can continue building next season.

We will automatically be £8m worse off from June (losing the last of our parachute payments) and we will already have to cut our existing costs and wage bill further (not including the £8m) therefore in reality the club will have to find savings of at least £15-20m.

This will mean that Rhodes (certainly), Hanley & Robinson (almost certainly) and Cairney (possibly) will go - and be replaced by cheaper, younger, more inexperienced replacements.

Then on 1st Jan 2015 we will be hit with a transfer embargo.

Given all this it will be an achiement for GB just to keep us up next season. This summer is when the reality of our dire financial situation will become a tangible reality - something that I don't think most Rovers fans on here really have been able to understand so far. The enormity of it and the fact that it will consume almost every aspect of the club.

I'm not trying to be negative or "doom-mongering
" - the figures regarding our imcomes, forcasted incomes, losses, forcasted future losses and the required losses (by the FL) are all published - and they are frightening.

Shaw and Bowyer have done well this season to cut the wage bill whilst keeping us competitive but the costs needed to be implemented in the next 9 months will dewarf those seen in the last 12 months.
Come on JC, if you are so brilliant with figures why aren't you running the economy? You need to have a serious look at other clubs regarding Fair Play, I think that the only club in the country who don't actually have a problem are Arsenal.

Man City, Chelsea (who had a greater debt than Rovers last season) have already found ways around Fair Play this season, others will follow their examples.

Man Utd, who continue to fund a £300 million debt to their owners have been able to offer Rooney an astronomical salary and are talking about spending millions in the close season.

How can that be regarded as Fair Play? Especially as these new players will see Rooney's salary and want at least the same.

The simple fact you continue to miss out on, probably because it suits your purpose, is that £11 million of Rovers debt is an arranged overdraft and the whole of the meaningful remainder is owed to Venky's at real zero interest with no stipulated payback date.

In other words the debt is in Venky's hands to do as they wish with, and lets face it as billionaires in their own right this level of debt isn't even pocket money, they probable gain and lose more daily in fluctuations in share prices.

Shaw and Bowyer are obviously tidying things up, it needed doing, they obviously have targets to meet that have been set by the owners, and we hear the same mantra time after time, Rhodes isn't going anywhere and we don't need to sell out better players.

Money talks, always has, always will.
[quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]unclejacklegend[/bold] wrote: I'm as pi$$ed off as the next Rovers can after Saturday but I think we can all accept that reaching the play offs this season was a tall order. For me, GB has done an awesome job considering he's had to buy and sell an entire squad in one season without spending any money, he's not getting the credit he deserves. That said, the squad still needs major improvement in most areas to be competitive next season which I think Bowyer is more than capable of doing especially when you Look at the quality he had already recruited ( Marshall cairney Evans spurr gestede kilgallon Conway ) The hardest part is going to be keeping the boo boys quiet for another 6 months.[/p][/quote]I agree with you about GB having done a great job rebuiling the squad this season and hasnt received the plaudits he should have. However I think you are deluding yourself if you think Rovers can continue building next season. We will automatically be £8m worse off from June (losing the last of our parachute payments) and we will already have to cut our existing costs and wage bill further (not including the £8m) therefore in reality the club will have to find savings of at least £15-20m. This will mean that Rhodes (certainly), Hanley & Robinson (almost certainly) and Cairney (possibly) will go - and be replaced by cheaper, younger, more inexperienced replacements. Then on 1st Jan 2015 we will be hit with a transfer embargo. Given all this it will be an achiement for GB just to keep us up next season. This summer is when the reality of our dire financial situation will become a tangible reality - something that I don't think most Rovers fans on here really have been able to understand so far. The enormity of it and the fact that it will consume almost every aspect of the club. I'm not trying to be negative or "doom-mongering " - the figures regarding our imcomes, forcasted incomes, losses, forcasted future losses and the required losses (by the FL) are all published - and they are frightening. Shaw and Bowyer have done well this season to cut the wage bill whilst keeping us competitive but the costs needed to be implemented in the next 9 months will dewarf those seen in the last 12 months.[/p][/quote]Come on JC, if you are so brilliant with figures why aren't you running the economy? You need to have a serious look at other clubs regarding Fair Play, I think that the only club in the country who don't actually have a problem are Arsenal. Man City, Chelsea (who had a greater debt than Rovers last season) have already found ways around Fair Play this season, others will follow their examples. Man Utd, who continue to fund a £300 million debt to their owners have been able to offer Rooney an astronomical salary and are talking about spending millions in the close season. How can that be regarded as Fair Play? Especially as these new players will see Rooney's salary and want at least the same. The simple fact you continue to miss out on, probably because it suits your purpose, is that £11 million of Rovers debt is an arranged overdraft and the whole of the meaningful remainder is owed to Venky's at real zero interest with no stipulated payback date. In other words the debt is in Venky's hands to do as they wish with, and lets face it as billionaires in their own right this level of debt isn't even pocket money, they probable gain and lose more daily in fluctuations in share prices. Shaw and Bowyer are obviously tidying things up, it needed doing, they obviously have targets to meet that have been set by the owners, and we hear the same mantra time after time, Rhodes isn't going anywhere and we don't need to sell out better players. Money talks, always has, always will. owd nick
  • Score: 1

11:32am Mon 3 Mar 14

owd nick says...

Champagne plus charlie wrote:
Tatts wrote:
Champagne plus charlie wrote:
Wow, I can only imagine what a 'furious' Gary Bowyer is like lol.

His dull-as-dishwater monotone voice makes Gary Barlow sound expressive.
Dyche's voice sounds like a 60-a-day man who has swallowed a packet of razor blades
Agreed, but if you needed manager to give a half time bollocking to an underperforming team which of the two would you want to give it?

Mr Boring Bowyer or Ginger Mourinho?
Sorry I more accurately read that as Ginger muff diver.

But I do actually agree with you, I saw him play several times and he didn't take any prisoners on the field so I wouldn't expect any difference in the dressing room. lol.
[quote][p][bold]Champagne plus charlie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tatts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Champagne plus charlie[/bold] wrote: Wow, I can only imagine what a 'furious' Gary Bowyer is like lol. His dull-as-dishwater monotone voice makes Gary Barlow sound expressive.[/p][/quote]Dyche's voice sounds like a 60-a-day man who has swallowed a packet of razor blades[/p][/quote]Agreed, but if you needed manager to give a half time bollocking to an underperforming team which of the two would you want to give it? Mr Boring Bowyer or Ginger Mourinho?[/p][/quote]Sorry I more accurately read that as Ginger muff diver. But I do actually agree with you, I saw him play several times and he didn't take any prisoners on the field so I wouldn't expect any difference in the dressing room. lol. owd nick
  • Score: 0

12:38pm Mon 3 Mar 14

yyy's1 says...

It's a problem of your own making Bowyer. You split up one of the best
championship defensive pairings in the transfer window and didn't sign any cover.
You had a chance to sign Lucas Neill but chose not to, he could play full back or central defence.
And why TATTS wrote in with a team selection that included Lowe I can't imagine, he gives the ball away for fun and while I accept he covers a fair bit of ground, he only passes the ball sideways and backwards, add to that his goalscoring record of the odd goal every Preston Guild then it is easy to see that he is a big part of the problem. Leave him out Bowyer and let's see if it makes a difference, it can't be any worse .
It's a problem of your own making Bowyer. You split up one of the best championship defensive pairings in the transfer window and didn't sign any cover. You had a chance to sign Lucas Neill but chose not to, he could play full back or central defence. And why TATTS wrote in with a team selection that included Lowe I can't imagine, he gives the ball away for fun and while I accept he covers a fair bit of ground, he only passes the ball sideways and backwards, add to that his goalscoring record of the odd goal every Preston Guild then it is easy to see that he is a big part of the problem. Leave him out Bowyer and let's see if it makes a difference, it can't be any worse . yyy's1
  • Score: 11

1:05pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Wild Rover says...

Look up Blackburn says " this not scaremongering".....
YES IT IS...
BALDRIC you need to read your copy before you paste
You start out by saying that punishments will be handed out in April/ May 2014, but your copy of the rules states non compliant clubs from December ..
But you aren't trying to be scary??
Yeah alright Baldric, you have fooled us all again
NOT
Look up Blackburn says " this not scaremongering"..... YES IT IS... BALDRIC you need to read your copy before you paste You start out by saying that punishments will be handed out in April/ May 2014, but your copy of the rules states non compliant clubs from December .. But you aren't trying to be scary?? Yeah alright Baldric, you have fooled us all again NOT Wild Rover
  • Score: 1

1:12pm Mon 3 Mar 14

MattNewcastle says...

We demanded passion

what a joke Bowyer has become

Totally tactically inept
Every team is a attacking our Right Back position
Central midfield a joke
no player apart from Cairney capable of putting their foot on the ball

As for making playoffs

Yes with the right manager in charge we were capable of making them.
We demanded passion what a joke Bowyer has become Totally tactically inept Every team is a attacking our Right Back position Central midfield a joke no player apart from Cairney capable of putting their foot on the ball As for making playoffs Yes with the right manager in charge we were capable of making them. MattNewcastle
  • Score: 3

1:17pm Mon 3 Mar 14

MattNewcastle says...

I don't think Leicester and Burnley are top of the league down to just PASSION.

Bowyer how about asking for skill craft

Oh sorry half the team don't have any

Taylor headless chicken
Kane
Olsson
Williamson
Henley
Lowe
I don't think Leicester and Burnley are top of the league down to just PASSION. Bowyer how about asking for skill craft Oh sorry half the team don't have any Taylor headless chicken Kane Olsson Williamson Henley Lowe MattNewcastle
  • Score: 4

1:19pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Champagne plus charlie says...

MattNewcastle wrote:
We demanded passion

what a joke Bowyer has become

Totally tactically inept
Every team is a attacking our Right Back position
Central midfield a joke
no player apart from Cairney capable of putting their foot on the ball

As for making playoffs

Yes with the right manager in charge we were capable of making them.
And yet after winning at Reading last week he was leading you to the play-offs and was a football genius?

Deluded fickle idiots
[quote][p][bold]MattNewcastle[/bold] wrote: We demanded passion what a joke Bowyer has become Totally tactically inept Every team is a attacking our Right Back position Central midfield a joke no player apart from Cairney capable of putting their foot on the ball As for making playoffs Yes with the right manager in charge we were capable of making them.[/p][/quote]And yet after winning at Reading last week he was leading you to the play-offs and was a football genius? Deluded fickle idiots Champagne plus charlie
  • Score: 0

1:23pm Mon 3 Mar 14

genuflect says...

not lookin forward to next sunday atall.i think the dingles 34 yr wait is about to end!!!! :-((((
not lookin forward to next sunday atall.i think the dingles 34 yr wait is about to end!!!! :-(((( genuflect
  • Score: 3

2:47pm Mon 3 Mar 14

look up blackburn says...

Wild Rover wrote:
Look up Blackburn says " this not scaremongering".....

YES IT IS...
BALDRIC you need to read your copy before you paste
You start out by saying that punishments will be handed out in April/ May 2014, but your copy of the rules states non compliant clubs from December ..
But you aren't trying to be scary??
Yeah alright Baldric, you have fooled us all again
NOT
"Clubs that fail to comply with the Financial Fair Play regulations (from December 1st 2014) will be subject to a transfer embargo"

"punishments to non-compliant Championship clubs to be handed out in April/May 2014"

Is that not clear enough for you Mungo?

Trying the usual Rovers trick of attempting to pick holes in something that doesn't appeal to you is quite sad really.

Once again, not scaremongering and not trying to fool you, I'm simply reminding you morons of the facts. Consult Google if you find the truth so hard to stomach when it comes from me.
[quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: Look up Blackburn says " this not scaremongering"..... YES IT IS... BALDRIC you need to read your copy before you paste You start out by saying that punishments will be handed out in April/ May 2014, but your copy of the rules states non compliant clubs from December .. But you aren't trying to be scary?? Yeah alright Baldric, you have fooled us all again NOT[/p][/quote]"Clubs that fail to comply with the Financial Fair Play regulations (from December 1st 2014) will be subject to a transfer embargo" "punishments to non-compliant Championship clubs to be handed out in April/May 2014" Is that not clear enough for you Mungo? Trying the usual Rovers trick of attempting to pick holes in something that doesn't appeal to you is quite sad really. Once again, not scaremongering and not trying to fool you, I'm simply reminding you morons of the facts. Consult Google if you find the truth so hard to stomach when it comes from me. look up blackburn
  • Score: -3

3:13pm Mon 3 Mar 14

crankitup says...

hot and cold again Gary....no i'm not saying that you alone are to blame...far from it, the players have their part to play..or not as the case was, but motivation is key....and consistency is a must.

god only help us next weekend if we play like that....our noisy neighbors will not let us forget it.....

This is your team Gary.....the players you wanted....the squad you assembled......GET IT SORTED, and i agree with you,,,there were no excuses for a performance like that and i hope you came down on them like a ton of bricks.
hot and cold again Gary....no i'm not saying that you alone are to blame...far from it, the players have their part to play..or not as the case was, but motivation is key....and consistency is a must. god only help us next weekend if we play like that....our noisy neighbors will not let us forget it..... This is your team Gary.....the players you wanted....the squad you assembled......GET IT SORTED, and i agree with you,,,there were no excuses for a performance like that and i hope you came down on them like a ton of bricks. crankitup
  • Score: 5

3:19pm Mon 3 Mar 14

glynners says...

We might have to suck it up on Sunday. Inconsistent, half fit squad against a Burnley team sensing blood in the promotion race

It wont be nice to lose one of these but if it happens, it happens. We've had a long time on top - they can only dream of what we've had over the last 20 years
We might have to suck it up on Sunday. Inconsistent, half fit squad against a Burnley team sensing blood in the promotion race It wont be nice to lose one of these but if it happens, it happens. We've had a long time on top - they can only dream of what we've had over the last 20 years glynners
  • Score: 4

3:51pm Mon 3 Mar 14

juanbbien says...

What's the hell is wrong with these players we have them on here every week saying we can make the play off,s we are all together,then Bowyer praising their attitude after a good result so the fans become optmistic thinking the Bloton game is a formality only to badly let down the fans and Especialy the traveling ones who had to fork out would you believe it thirty odd quid and by all accounts the team although lacking in skill didn't even put in a spirited shift is a bloody insult and a disgrace it's the least this team of average journey men could give the fans,I despair to what as happend since this lot arrived
What's the hell is wrong with these players we have them on here every week saying we can make the play off,s we are all together,then Bowyer praising their attitude after a good result so the fans become optmistic thinking the Bloton game is a formality only to badly let down the fans and Especialy the traveling ones who had to fork out would you believe it thirty odd quid and by all accounts the team although lacking in skill didn't even put in a spirited shift is a bloody insult and a disgrace it's the least this team of average journey men could give the fans,I despair to what as happend since this lot arrived juanbbien
  • Score: 4

4:28pm Mon 3 Mar 14

J.C - Rishton says...

DanBlackburn wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
unclejacklegend wrote:
I'm as pi$$ed off as the next Rovers can after Saturday but I think we can all accept that reaching the play offs this season was a tall order. For me, GB has done an awesome job considering he's had to buy and sell an entire squad in one season without spending any money, he's not getting the credit he deserves. That said, the squad still needs major improvement in most areas to be competitive next season which I think Bowyer is more than capable of doing especially when you Look at the quality he had already recruited ( Marshall cairney Evans spurr gestede kilgallon Conway ) The hardest part is going to be keeping the boo boys quiet for another 6 months.
I agree with you about GB having done a great job rebuiling the squad this season and hasnt received the plaudits he should have.

However I think you are deluding yourself if you think Rovers can continue building next season.

We will automatically be £8m worse off from June (losing the last of our parachute payments) and we will already have to cut our existing costs and wage bill further (not including the £8m) therefore in reality the club will have to find savings of at least £15-20m.

This will mean that Rhodes (certainly), Hanley & Robinson (almost certainly) and Cairney (possibly) will go - and be replaced by cheaper, younger, more inexperienced replacements.

Then on 1st Jan 2015 we will be hit with a transfer embargo.

Given all this it will be an achiement for GB just to keep us up next season. This summer is when the reality of our dire financial situation will become a tangible reality - something that I don't think most Rovers fans on here really have been able to understand so far. The enormity of it and the fact that it will consume almost every aspect of the club.

I'm not trying to be negative or "doom-mongering

" - the figures regarding our imcomes, forcasted incomes, losses, forcasted future losses and the required losses (by the FL) are all published - and they are frightening.

Shaw and Bowyer have done well this season to cut the wage bill whilst keeping us competitive but the costs needed to be implemented in the next 9 months will dewarf those seen in the last 12 months.
The FFP rules can and will be by-passed, as many of the top Premiership clubs will prove. All it needs is for Vile Venkys to put their money where their mouth is (just a saying as they never communicate as we know).
They can create sponsorship deals for the ground, the shirts, almost anything and this is classified as legitimate income.
The rules on net losses (£3m - £8m) are after all sources of income. If they are serious about Rovers regaining their Premiership status they will find a way.
Unfortunately I fear the silent Loons from Pune have already written us off. Operation Destroy Blackburn Rovers is almost complete.
Please don't let us lose to the Dingles on Sunday. We have little else to cling to.
Its shocking how I much I hate Venkys. Corrosive. Yet I still turn up week in week out. I must be mad.
Hi Dan - alot of what you say makes sense and I know larger teams have done this but there is no indication that the FL would accept such blatent rounding of the rules, unlike the PL will do OR that Venkys will put any REAL money into the club (eg a £30-50m cash injection). They have had 2 years to do so since we were relegated and apart from putting cash in to meet the dailly running of the club have not put any serious "excess" cash into the club.

Like you said, Venkys have left us nothing except our record against the Dingles to hold onto and we must hope that we can get through this Sunday with our proud record still in tact.

What else do we have ? - The idiots from India have brought us to our knees and the club is now a shell of what it was only 3 years ago with much more difficult times to come over the next year thanks to their gross mismanagement of the club.

Sad times indeed.
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[quote][p][bold]DanBlackburn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]unclejacklegend[/bold] wrote: I'm as pi$$ed off as the next Rovers can after Saturday but I think we can all accept that reaching the play offs this season was a tall order. For me, GB has done an awesome job considering he's had to buy and sell an entire squad in one season without spending any money, he's not getting the credit he deserves. That said, the squad still needs major improvement in most areas to be competitive next season which I think Bowyer is more than capable of doing especially when you Look at the quality he had already recruited ( Marshall cairney Evans spurr gestede kilgallon Conway ) The hardest part is going to be keeping the boo boys quiet for another 6 months.[/p][/quote]I agree with you about GB having done a great job rebuiling the squad this season and hasnt received the plaudits he should have. However I think you are deluding yourself if you think Rovers can continue building next season. We will automatically be £8m worse off from June (losing the last of our parachute payments) and we will already have to cut our existing costs and wage bill further (not including the £8m) therefore in reality the club will have to find savings of at least £15-20m. This will mean that Rhodes (certainly), Hanley & Robinson (almost certainly) and Cairney (possibly) will go - and be replaced by cheaper, younger, more inexperienced replacements. Then on 1st Jan 2015 we will be hit with a transfer embargo. Given all this it will be an achiement for GB just to keep us up next season. This summer is when the reality of our dire financial situation will become a tangible reality - something that I don't think most Rovers fans on here really have been able to understand so far. The enormity of it and the fact that it will consume almost every aspect of the club. I'm not trying to be negative or "doom-mongering " - the figures regarding our imcomes, forcasted incomes, losses, forcasted future losses and the required losses (by the FL) are all published - and they are frightening. Shaw and Bowyer have done well this season to cut the wage bill whilst keeping us competitive but the costs needed to be implemented in the next 9 months will dewarf those seen in the last 12 months.[/p][/quote]The FFP rules can and will be by-passed, as many of the top Premiership clubs will prove. All it needs is for Vile Venkys to put their money where their mouth is (just a saying as they never communicate as we know). They can create sponsorship deals for the ground, the shirts, almost anything and this is classified as legitimate income. The rules on net losses (£3m - £8m) are after all sources of income. If they are serious about Rovers regaining their Premiership status they will find a way. Unfortunately I fear the silent Loons from Pune have already written us off. Operation Destroy Blackburn Rovers is almost complete. Please don't let us lose to the Dingles on Sunday. We have little else to cling to. Its shocking how I much I hate Venkys. Corrosive. Yet I still turn up week in week out. I must be mad.[/p][/quote]Hi Dan - alot of what you say makes sense and I know larger teams have done this but there is no indication that the FL would accept such blatent rounding of the rules, unlike the PL will do OR that Venkys will put any REAL money into the club (eg a £30-50m cash injection). They have had 2 years to do so since we were relegated and apart from putting cash in to meet the dailly running of the club have not put any serious "excess" cash into the club. Like you said, Venkys have left us nothing except our record against the Dingles to hold onto and we must hope that we can get through this Sunday with our proud record still in tact. What else do we have ? - The idiots from India have brought us to our knees and the club is now a shell of what it was only 3 years ago with much more difficult times to come over the next year thanks to their gross mismanagement of the club. Sad times indeed. - J.C - Rishton
  • Score: 3

4:54pm Mon 3 Mar 14

golazzo says...

Poor away attendance from such a big club.
Poor away attendance from such a big club. golazzo
  • Score: 0

4:59pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Garylla says...

The problem is he's brought in a lot of Yes men with no-one to take charge on the pitch. We need a Robbie Savage, Chris Samba or Ryan Nelson. I'm sorry but Jordan as a skipper just doesn't stack up and it shows the value of Hanley. Why did we let Jones go to the Dingles and replace him with Williamson? Rovers fans we have to get down to Ewood next Sunday and be our 12th and 13 th men...I think we're gonna need it. I'm flying in from California so no excuses lads. Get into 'em. COYB
The problem is he's brought in a lot of Yes men with no-one to take charge on the pitch. We need a Robbie Savage, Chris Samba or Ryan Nelson. I'm sorry but Jordan as a skipper just doesn't stack up and it shows the value of Hanley. Why did we let Jones go to the Dingles and replace him with Williamson? Rovers fans we have to get down to Ewood next Sunday and be our 12th and 13 th men...I think we're gonna need it. I'm flying in from California so no excuses lads. Get into 'em. COYB Garylla
  • Score: 2

5:05pm Mon 3 Mar 14

J.C - Rishton says...

owd nick wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
unclejacklegend wrote:
I'm as pi$$ed off as the next Rovers can after Saturday but I think we can all accept that reaching the play offs this season was a tall order. For me, GB has done an awesome job considering he's had to buy and sell an entire squad in one season without spending any money, he's not getting the credit he deserves. That said, the squad still needs major improvement in most areas to be competitive next season which I think Bowyer is more than capable of doing especially when you Look at the quality he had already recruited ( Marshall cairney Evans spurr gestede kilgallon Conway ) The hardest part is going to be keeping the boo boys quiet for another 6 months.
I agree with you about GB having done a great job rebuiling the squad this season and hasnt received the plaudits he should have.

However I think you are deluding yourself if you think Rovers can continue building next season.

We will automatically be £8m worse off from June (losing the last of our parachute payments) and we will already have to cut our existing costs and wage bill further (not including the £8m) therefore in reality the club will have to find savings of at least £15-20m.

This will mean that Rhodes (certainly), Hanley & Robinson (almost certainly) and Cairney (possibly) will go - and be replaced by cheaper, younger, more inexperienced replacements.

Then on 1st Jan 2015 we will be hit with a transfer embargo.

Given all this it will be an achiement for GB just to keep us up next season. This summer is when the reality of our dire financial situation will become a tangible reality - something that I don't think most Rovers fans on here really have been able to understand so far. The enormity of it and the fact that it will consume almost every aspect of the club.

I'm not trying to be negative or "doom-mongering

" - the figures regarding our imcomes, forcasted incomes, losses, forcasted future losses and the required losses (by the FL) are all published - and they are frightening.

Shaw and Bowyer have done well this season to cut the wage bill whilst keeping us competitive but the costs needed to be implemented in the next 9 months will dewarf those seen in the last 12 months.
Come on JC, if you are so brilliant with figures why aren't you running the economy? You need to have a serious look at other clubs regarding Fair Play, I think that the only club in the country who don't actually have a problem are Arsenal.

Man City, Chelsea (who had a greater debt than Rovers last season) have already found ways around Fair Play this season, others will follow their examples.

Man Utd, who continue to fund a £300 million debt to their owners have been able to offer Rooney an astronomical salary and are talking about spending millions in the close season.

How can that be regarded as Fair Play? Especially as these new players will see Rooney's salary and want at least the same.

The simple fact you continue to miss out on, probably because it suits your purpose, is that £11 million of Rovers debt is an arranged overdraft and the whole of the meaningful remainder is owed to Venky's at real zero interest with no stipulated payback date.

In other words the debt is in Venky's hands to do as they wish with, and lets face it as billionaires in their own right this level of debt isn't even pocket money, they probable gain and lose more daily in fluctuations in share prices.

Shaw and Bowyer are obviously tidying things up, it needed doing, they obviously have targets to meet that have been set by the owners, and we hear the same mantra time after time, Rhodes isn't going anywhere and we don't need to sell out better players.

Money talks, always has, always will.
Hi Nick - when talking about team selections, game reports etc I think you talk alot of sense but in regards Rovers financial position and the FFP, I'm sorry but you talk complete and utter rubbish.

FFP will be brought in to the FL - the FL and the vast majority of its members (who voted for it) are determined to implement it. They are also backed by UEFA who are also keen to implement it.

As things stand today BRFC WILL receive a transfer ban on the 1st Jan 2015 - Derek Shaw has already confirmed this.

As for Man U, Chelsea etc who you quoted - so what ?? - that is irrelevant - they are in the PL and we are now in the FL (thanks to Venky mismanagement).

Also, you say Rovers debt is "tiny" incomparison to Venkys (last year we lost half the total profits they made in their ENTIRE Venky Hatcheries business - hardly "chicken feed". Our debt is now more than our entire annual receipts - a disasterous and unsustainable position for any institution.

Also, if Venkys are going to magically inject huge amounts of money into Rovers then why don't they do it - they have had 3 years to do so ?

Also, if they were going to actually pump cash into us, why has DS already admited that we will suffer a transfer ban and why it has just come out that Rovers (and 2 other clubs) have spoken to lawyers about FFP (no chance).
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]unclejacklegend[/bold] wrote: I'm as pi$$ed off as the next Rovers can after Saturday but I think we can all accept that reaching the play offs this season was a tall order. For me, GB has done an awesome job considering he's had to buy and sell an entire squad in one season without spending any money, he's not getting the credit he deserves. That said, the squad still needs major improvement in most areas to be competitive next season which I think Bowyer is more than capable of doing especially when you Look at the quality he had already recruited ( Marshall cairney Evans spurr gestede kilgallon Conway ) The hardest part is going to be keeping the boo boys quiet for another 6 months.[/p][/quote]I agree with you about GB having done a great job rebuiling the squad this season and hasnt received the plaudits he should have. However I think you are deluding yourself if you think Rovers can continue building next season. We will automatically be £8m worse off from June (losing the last of our parachute payments) and we will already have to cut our existing costs and wage bill further (not including the £8m) therefore in reality the club will have to find savings of at least £15-20m. This will mean that Rhodes (certainly), Hanley & Robinson (almost certainly) and Cairney (possibly) will go - and be replaced by cheaper, younger, more inexperienced replacements. Then on 1st Jan 2015 we will be hit with a transfer embargo. Given all this it will be an achiement for GB just to keep us up next season. This summer is when the reality of our dire financial situation will become a tangible reality - something that I don't think most Rovers fans on here really have been able to understand so far. The enormity of it and the fact that it will consume almost every aspect of the club. I'm not trying to be negative or "doom-mongering " - the figures regarding our imcomes, forcasted incomes, losses, forcasted future losses and the required losses (by the FL) are all published - and they are frightening. Shaw and Bowyer have done well this season to cut the wage bill whilst keeping us competitive but the costs needed to be implemented in the next 9 months will dewarf those seen in the last 12 months.[/p][/quote]Come on JC, if you are so brilliant with figures why aren't you running the economy? You need to have a serious look at other clubs regarding Fair Play, I think that the only club in the country who don't actually have a problem are Arsenal. Man City, Chelsea (who had a greater debt than Rovers last season) have already found ways around Fair Play this season, others will follow their examples. Man Utd, who continue to fund a £300 million debt to their owners have been able to offer Rooney an astronomical salary and are talking about spending millions in the close season. How can that be regarded as Fair Play? Especially as these new players will see Rooney's salary and want at least the same. The simple fact you continue to miss out on, probably because it suits your purpose, is that £11 million of Rovers debt is an arranged overdraft and the whole of the meaningful remainder is owed to Venky's at real zero interest with no stipulated payback date. In other words the debt is in Venky's hands to do as they wish with, and lets face it as billionaires in their own right this level of debt isn't even pocket money, they probable gain and lose more daily in fluctuations in share prices. Shaw and Bowyer are obviously tidying things up, it needed doing, they obviously have targets to meet that have been set by the owners, and we hear the same mantra time after time, Rhodes isn't going anywhere and we don't need to sell out better players. Money talks, always has, always will.[/p][/quote]Hi Nick - when talking about team selections, game reports etc I think you talk alot of sense but in regards Rovers financial position and the FFP, I'm sorry but you talk complete and utter rubbish. FFP will be brought in to the FL - the FL and the vast majority of its members (who voted for it) are determined to implement it. They are also backed by UEFA who are also keen to implement it. As things stand today BRFC WILL receive a transfer ban on the 1st Jan 2015 - Derek Shaw has already confirmed this. As for Man U, Chelsea etc who you quoted - so what ?? - that is irrelevant - they are in the PL and we are now in the FL (thanks to Venky mismanagement). Also, you say Rovers debt is "tiny" incomparison to Venkys (last year we lost half the total profits they made in their ENTIRE Venky Hatcheries business - hardly "chicken feed". Our debt is now more than our entire annual receipts - a disasterous and unsustainable position for any institution. Also, if Venkys are going to magically inject huge amounts of money into Rovers then why don't they do it - they have had 3 years to do so ? Also, if they were going to actually pump cash into us, why has DS already admited that we will suffer a transfer ban and why it has just come out that Rovers (and 2 other clubs) have spoken to lawyers about FFP (no chance). J.C - Rishton
  • Score: 1

6:28pm Mon 3 Mar 14

baldie says...

look.up.blackburn wrote:
DanBlackburn wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
unclejacklegend wrote:
I'm as pi$$ed off as the next Rovers can after Saturday but I think we can all accept that reaching the play offs this season was a tall order. For me, GB has done an awesome job considering he's had to buy and sell an entire squad in one season without spending any money, he's not getting the credit he deserves. That said, the squad still needs major improvement in most areas to be competitive next season which I think Bowyer is more than capable of doing especially when you Look at the quality he had already recruited ( Marshall cairney Evans spurr gestede kilgallon Conway ) The hardest part is going to be keeping the boo boys quiet for another 6 months.
I agree with you about GB having done a great job rebuiling the squad this season and hasnt received the plaudits he should have.

However I think you are deluding yourself if you think Rovers can continue building next season.

We will automatically be £8m worse off from June (losing the last of our parachute payments) and we will already have to cut our existing costs and wage bill further (not including the £8m) therefore in reality the club will have to find savings of at least £15-20m.

This will mean that Rhodes (certainly), Hanley & Robinson (almost certainly) and Cairney (possibly) will go - and be replaced by cheaper, younger, more inexperienced replacements.

Then on 1st Jan 2015 we will be hit with a transfer embargo.

Given all this it will be an achiement for GB just to keep us up next season. This summer is when the reality of our dire financial situation will become a tangible reality - something that I don't think most Rovers fans on here really have been able to understand so far. The enormity of it and the fact that it will consume almost every aspect of the club.

I'm not trying to be negative or "doom-mongering


" - the figures regarding our imcomes, forcasted incomes, losses, forcasted future losses and the required losses (by the FL) are all published - and they are frightening.

Shaw and Bowyer have done well this season to cut the wage bill whilst keeping us competitive but the costs needed to be implemented in the next 9 months will dewarf those seen in the last 12 months.
The FFP rules can and will be by-passed, as many of the top Premiership clubs will prove. All it needs is for Vile Venkys to put their money where their mouth is (just a saying as they never communicate as we know).
They can create sponsorship deals for the ground, the shirts, almost anything and this is classified as legitimate income.
The rules on net losses (£3m - £8m) are after all sources of income. If they are serious about Rovers regaining their Premiership status they will find a way.
Unfortunately I fear the silent Loons from Pune have already written us off. Operation Destroy Blackburn Rovers is almost complete.
Please don't let us lose to the Dingles on Sunday. We have little else to cling to.
Its shocking how I much I hate Venkys. Corrosive. Yet I still turn up week in week out. I must be mad.
"The FFP rules can and will be by-passed.."

Typical Blackburn Rovers arrogance once again. Thinking that the rules that govern all are not applicable to your football club. What a moron you are.

FFP aims to reduce the levels of losses being incurred at football clubs and, over time, establish a league of financially self-sustaining professional football clubs.

The rules are agreed and in place with punishments to non-compliant Championship clubs to be handed out in April/May 2014. You seem to persist with this misguided notion that you can STILL buy your way out of trouble, its astounding arrogance, it really is. You clearly understand nothing of the financial tsunami about to engulf your tin-pot football club next season.

Firstly, the Premier League and Championship rules are worlds apart. The maximum permitted Premier League loss is £105million over 3 seasons whereas the maximum permitted Championship loss is currently £8million (if the owners inject £5million equity).

However, the permitted level of acceptable deviation and shareholder equity investment will reduce further over time from £3m and £5m respectively to £2m and £3m by 2015/16.

Clubs that fail to comply with the Financial Fair Play regulations (from December 1st 2014) will be subject to a transfer embargo. This embargo will come in to force ahead of the subsequent transfer window beginning on January 1, 2015. The embargo will remain in place until the club is able to lodge financial information that demonstrates that it meets the Financial Fair Play regulations. For a club such as Blackburn Rovers currently losing £36.5million a season, this could be some considerable time.

The top and bottom of it is that Blackburn Rovers will be ripped apart by FFP. You have enjoyed the good times and bought yourself a few years in the big league but you are now paying the price and need to accept your future is in the lower leagues. You will more than likely start the 2015 season as a League One club. Ironically the league title that you bought all those years ago could ultimately bring about the end of Blackburn Rovers.

This is not scaremongering, this is all fact, unfortunately for you.

http://www.financial

fairplay.co.uk/finan

cial-fair-play-expla

ined.php
YES or NO?
[quote][p][bold]look.up.blackburn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DanBlackburn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]unclejacklegend[/bold] wrote: I'm as pi$$ed off as the next Rovers can after Saturday but I think we can all accept that reaching the play offs this season was a tall order. For me, GB has done an awesome job considering he's had to buy and sell an entire squad in one season without spending any money, he's not getting the credit he deserves. That said, the squad still needs major improvement in most areas to be competitive next season which I think Bowyer is more than capable of doing especially when you Look at the quality he had already recruited ( Marshall cairney Evans spurr gestede kilgallon Conway ) The hardest part is going to be keeping the boo boys quiet for another 6 months.[/p][/quote]I agree with you about GB having done a great job rebuiling the squad this season and hasnt received the plaudits he should have. However I think you are deluding yourself if you think Rovers can continue building next season. We will automatically be £8m worse off from June (losing the last of our parachute payments) and we will already have to cut our existing costs and wage bill further (not including the £8m) therefore in reality the club will have to find savings of at least £15-20m. This will mean that Rhodes (certainly), Hanley & Robinson (almost certainly) and Cairney (possibly) will go - and be replaced by cheaper, younger, more inexperienced replacements. Then on 1st Jan 2015 we will be hit with a transfer embargo. Given all this it will be an achiement for GB just to keep us up next season. This summer is when the reality of our dire financial situation will become a tangible reality - something that I don't think most Rovers fans on here really have been able to understand so far. The enormity of it and the fact that it will consume almost every aspect of the club. I'm not trying to be negative or "doom-mongering " - the figures regarding our imcomes, forcasted incomes, losses, forcasted future losses and the required losses (by the FL) are all published - and they are frightening. Shaw and Bowyer have done well this season to cut the wage bill whilst keeping us competitive but the costs needed to be implemented in the next 9 months will dewarf those seen in the last 12 months.[/p][/quote]The FFP rules can and will be by-passed, as many of the top Premiership clubs will prove. All it needs is for Vile Venkys to put their money where their mouth is (just a saying as they never communicate as we know). They can create sponsorship deals for the ground, the shirts, almost anything and this is classified as legitimate income. The rules on net losses (£3m - £8m) are after all sources of income. If they are serious about Rovers regaining their Premiership status they will find a way. Unfortunately I fear the silent Loons from Pune have already written us off. Operation Destroy Blackburn Rovers is almost complete. Please don't let us lose to the Dingles on Sunday. We have little else to cling to. Its shocking how I much I hate Venkys. Corrosive. Yet I still turn up week in week out. I must be mad.[/p][/quote]"The FFP rules can and will be by-passed.." Typical Blackburn Rovers arrogance once again. Thinking that the rules that govern all are not applicable to your football club. What a moron you are. FFP aims to reduce the levels of losses being incurred at football clubs and, over time, establish a league of financially self-sustaining professional football clubs. The rules are agreed and in place with punishments to non-compliant Championship clubs to be handed out in April/May 2014. You seem to persist with this misguided notion that you can STILL buy your way out of trouble, its astounding arrogance, it really is. You clearly understand nothing of the financial tsunami about to engulf your tin-pot football club next season. Firstly, the Premier League and Championship rules are worlds apart. The maximum permitted Premier League loss is £105million over 3 seasons whereas the maximum permitted Championship loss is currently £8million (if the owners inject £5million equity). However, the permitted level of acceptable deviation and shareholder equity investment will reduce further over time from £3m and £5m respectively to £2m and £3m by 2015/16. Clubs that fail to comply with the Financial Fair Play regulations (from December 1st 2014) will be subject to a transfer embargo. This embargo will come in to force ahead of the subsequent transfer window beginning on January 1, 2015. The embargo will remain in place until the club is able to lodge financial information that demonstrates that it meets the Financial Fair Play regulations. For a club such as Blackburn Rovers currently losing £36.5million a season, this could be some considerable time. The top and bottom of it is that Blackburn Rovers will be ripped apart by FFP. You have enjoyed the good times and bought yourself a few years in the big league but you are now paying the price and need to accept your future is in the lower leagues. You will more than likely start the 2015 season as a League One club. Ironically the league title that you bought all those years ago could ultimately bring about the end of Blackburn Rovers. This is not scaremongering, this is all fact, unfortunately for you. http://www.financial fairplay.co.uk/finan cial-fair-play-expla ined.php[/p][/quote]YES or NO? baldie
  • Score: 0

7:27pm Mon 3 Mar 14

eddyo says...

Gary, you couldn't be furious if you went home and found your wife in flagrante.
*
You picked the team that nobody else would. Olsson? Lowe and Williamson in centre-mid? Bambi Henley at right back after he has been targeted as a weak link for weeks?
*
Venkys need to decide. Tread water with a no mark, get shut of the club or have a bash at getting out of this poxy league.
*
It is your judgment day on Sunday, GB, and you are too gutless and numb for my liking. A nice man, fine, but a pu55y.
Gary, you couldn't be furious if you went home and found your wife in flagrante. * You picked the team that nobody else would. Olsson? Lowe and Williamson in centre-mid? Bambi Henley at right back after he has been targeted as a weak link for weeks? * Venkys need to decide. Tread water with a no mark, get shut of the club or have a bash at getting out of this poxy league. * It is your judgment day on Sunday, GB, and you are too gutless and numb for my liking. A nice man, fine, but a pu55y. eddyo
  • Score: 6

8:18pm Mon 3 Mar 14

danskeblaa says...

A bit harsh on a man who has restored dignity to the role and at least brought some respect back to the club after the last 2 years of farce.

That said GB has to accept a significant part in Saturday's debacle and the worst defeat to Bolton in 80 odd years. That kind of result has been on the cards for some time with some of the poorest players being played irrespective of recent performances. The fans know where the weak links are but it appears the manager does not.

The players do not fear the manager enough and they obviously feel a no show has no consequences for them. Time for some accountability otherwise Bowyer will lose the fans respect for putting out players who clearly cannot cut it. We are not 20 points behind Burnley for nothing yet we keep seeing the same team and tactics week in week out, Something has to change.
A bit harsh on a man who has restored dignity to the role and at least brought some respect back to the club after the last 2 years of farce. That said GB has to accept a significant part in Saturday's debacle and the worst defeat to Bolton in 80 odd years. That kind of result has been on the cards for some time with some of the poorest players being played irrespective of recent performances. The fans know where the weak links are but it appears the manager does not. The players do not fear the manager enough and they obviously feel a no show has no consequences for them. Time for some accountability otherwise Bowyer will lose the fans respect for putting out players who clearly cannot cut it. We are not 20 points behind Burnley for nothing yet we keep seeing the same team and tactics week in week out, Something has to change. danskeblaa
  • Score: 4

9:19pm Mon 3 Mar 14

MattNewcastle says...

Champagne plus charlie wrote:
MattNewcastle wrote:
We demanded passion

what a joke Bowyer has become

Totally tactically inept
Every team is a attacking our Right Back position
Central midfield a joke
no player apart from Cairney capable of putting their foot on the ball

As for making playoffs

Yes with the right manager in charge we were capable of making them.
And yet after winning at Reading last week he was leading you to the play-offs and was a football genius?

Deluded fickle idiots
Your entitled to your opinion

I have stuck to my opinion from day one of Bowyers appointment so certainly not fickle

Great academy reserve team coach

Not a manager of a Championship club

Early buys

Taylor
Marrow
judge
Eastwood
Kane
Williamson new contract
Dunn new contract
Olson new contract

Great signings new contracts

Saturday had nothing to do with lack of effort but total lack of skill amongst the lot of them accept Conway.

Gestede and Rhodes useless.

neither can hold the ball up when plated up to them.

Do not work together too far apart

No pressing of opposition

Bolton back four had a field say Weater spraying passes left and right
[quote][p][bold]Champagne plus charlie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MattNewcastle[/bold] wrote: We demanded passion what a joke Bowyer has become Totally tactically inept Every team is a attacking our Right Back position Central midfield a joke no player apart from Cairney capable of putting their foot on the ball As for making playoffs Yes with the right manager in charge we were capable of making them.[/p][/quote]And yet after winning at Reading last week he was leading you to the play-offs and was a football genius? Deluded fickle idiots[/p][/quote]Your entitled to your opinion I have stuck to my opinion from day one of Bowyers appointment so certainly not fickle Great academy reserve team coach Not a manager of a Championship club Early buys Taylor Marrow judge Eastwood Kane Williamson new contract Dunn new contract Olson new contract Great signings new contracts Saturday had nothing to do with lack of effort but total lack of skill amongst the lot of them accept Conway. Gestede and Rhodes useless. neither can hold the ball up when plated up to them. Do not work together too far apart No pressing of opposition Bolton back four had a field say Weater spraying passes left and right MattNewcastle
  • Score: 1

9:52pm Mon 3 Mar 14

look up blackburn says...

Rumours doing the rounds that Burnley fans are getting hold of tickets in the home ends for next week. I've heard there are a few Blackburn supporters who've now sold their tickets. This could get interesting..
Rumours doing the rounds that Burnley fans are getting hold of tickets in the home ends for next week. I've heard there are a few Blackburn supporters who've now sold their tickets. This could get interesting.. look up blackburn
  • Score: 1

9:04am Tue 4 Mar 14

kitchener2 says...

look up blackburn wrote:
Rumours doing the rounds that Burnley fans are getting hold of tickets in the home ends for next week. I've heard there are a few Blackburn supporters who've now sold their tickets. This could get interesting..
You mean it could get dangerous for you muppets....any goon who manages to enter the home ends will get exactly what they deserve....and you really would be looking up, surrounded by medics.
[quote][p][bold]look up blackburn[/bold] wrote: Rumours doing the rounds that Burnley fans are getting hold of tickets in the home ends for next week. I've heard there are a few Blackburn supporters who've now sold their tickets. This could get interesting..[/p][/quote]You mean it could get dangerous for you muppets....any goon who manages to enter the home ends will get exactly what they deserve....and you really would be looking up, surrounded by medics. kitchener2
  • Score: 0

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