COMMENT: History helps Rovers with current problems (From Lancashire Telegraph)

We all know Shebby and the Venkys want a YES man, thats the cause for the delay.
Well get it wrong dear owners and get used to 12000 a fornight turning up at Ewood, you have been warned!
You cant run a football club like a chicken farm.

Lancs - pensioner wrote:
We all know Shebby and the Venkys want a YES man, thats the cause for the delay.
Well get it wrong dear owners and get used to 12000 a fornight turning up at Ewood, you have been warned!
You cant run a football club like a chicken farm.

But they think they can!

Lancs - pensioner wrote:
We all know Shebby and the Venkys want a YES man, thats the cause for the delay. Well get it wrong dear owners and get used to 12000 a fornight turning up at Ewood, you have been warned! You cant run a football club like a chicken farm.

get it wrong and they will think 12,000 is a good crowd!

And lets face it..... if LET did a survey

Do you trust Shabby and the Bodget and Scarper brothers to make the right decision....
I suspect they would get a 100 percent NO (from the Rovers fans anyway) maybe a few sad dingles would vote Yes.

Venkys are running this club like
HEADLESS CHICKENS!!!!

Excellent story and so say all of us.COYB!!

All owners want a reasonably compliant manager LP, as not many managers get all things their own way - not even at top clubs like Chelsea, or Man United or City. At the end of the day at all clubs the owners are those that must be obeyed.

What we need is strong manager who can grow the club and get success (and get progress for the club and his own reputation) - but if he and the owners do not have the same vision or plan for success then neither the manager nor the club will succeed.

Also I really dont' understand why anyone on here is still talking about attendances and boycotts? Yes the one that got Kean out was effective but that would never work again.That was a one-time only set of circumstances that should never be repeated.

If people don't like the next appointment then fair enough they can vote with their feet as always has been the case, but any talk of any threats of future fan boycotts over managerial appointments is nonsense and would not be listened to by any club never mind the Rovers.

shebby tells you what you want to hear he is a venkys yes man and i dont trust them or him to get the right man sherwood is not good enough to get us up venkys sell up and let someone who knows about football buy the club

French Rover wrote:
All owners want a reasonably compliant manager LP, as not many managers get all things their own way - not even at top clubs like Chelsea, or Man United or City. At the end of the day at all clubs the owners are those that must be obeyed.

What we need is strong manager who can grow the club and get success (and get progress for the club and his own reputation) - but if he and the owners do not have the same vision or plan for success then neither the manager nor the club will succeed.

Also I really dont' understand why anyone on here is still talking about attendances and boycotts? Yes the one that got Kean out was effective but that would never work again.That was a one-time only set of circumstances that should never be repeated.

If people don't like the next appointment then fair enough they can vote with their feet as always has been the case, but any talk of any threats of future fan boycotts over managerial appointments is nonsense and would not be listened to by any club never mind the Rovers.

Whilst I do not disagree with your comments, I feel it is important that the fans do not simply drift away from this mess and rather they can stand together behind a boycott. With all due respect, you have had the snip, by that I mean you have long since not attended Ewood on matchdays. You may miss it and you may mourn not being able to go, but not going is what you do by default (save for the odd visit back to the UK). If I don't go its because I can't bear to go and support this mess, it hurts and I miss it. But rather than sit disenfranchised listening to the radio on a matchday I would rather count myself amongst a band of brothers who are not going because we cannot sit idly by and be complicit with events that are happening. When Kean went I ended my protest and was at the Wolves game. With the current malaise over appointing a new manager I am seriously considering withhold my support once more and I would rather do that collectively than as a lone voice.

Shabby says top names want to Manage the club - then why is he so obsessed with Sherwood if we have many applicants with sound Management Experience - 'No' -they just want someone to give the idiotic Venkeys 'lip service' - the whole process of appointing a Manager is becoming a complete joke and just part of the circus act that these people promote!!
OUT WITH SHAW AGNEW BLACK HENDRY SINGH VENKEYS

French Rover wrote:
All owners want a reasonably compliant manager LP, as not many managers get all things their own way - not even at top clubs like Chelsea, or Man United or City. At the end of the day at all clubs the owners are those that must be obeyed.

What we need is strong manager who can grow the club and get success (and get progress for the club and his own reputation) - but if he and the owners do not have the same vision or plan for success then neither the manager nor the club will succeed.

Also I really dont' understand why anyone on here is still talking about attendances and boycotts? Yes the one that got Kean out was effective but that would never work again.That was a one-time only set of circumstances that should never be repeated.

If people don't like the next appointment then fair enough they can vote with their feet as always has been the case, but any talk of any threats of future fan boycotts over managerial appointments is nonsense and would not be listened to by any club never mind the Rovers.

You keep on about a strong manager??? and quote' not many managers get their own way-not even at top club like......Chel..Mu..
.Mc'.... Really, I don't know which planet you have been on BUT no one tells Ferguson what to do and it's similar .at other Prem clubs!!!!!Yes....eve
n our previous Sam Allardyce...Remember he told Venky's what to do.......
Your comments are ridiculous

Appoint a manager takes so many days,When Shabby said - lots of CV's at hand, What is Shabby and club's priority ? What is critical and important for the club ? something dosen't work there ?..............is it a shame - going next match and get abuse from other fans "Headless chickens" dosen't know how to win the game with top players in the team.

Mr Purple wrote:

French Rover wrote:
All owners want a reasonably compliant manager LP, as not many managers get all things their own way - not even at top clubs like Chelsea, or Man United or City. At the end of the day at all clubs the owners are those that must be obeyed.

What we need is strong manager who can grow the club and get success (and get progress for the club and his own reputation) - but if he and the owners do not have the same vision or plan for success then neither the manager nor the club will succeed.

Also I really dont' understand why anyone on here is still talking about attendances and boycotts? Yes the one that got Kean out was effective but that would never work again.That was a one-time only set of circumstances that should never be repeated.

If people don't like the next appointment then fair enough they can vote with their feet as always has been the case, but any talk of any threats of future fan boycotts over managerial appointments is nonsense and would not be listened to by any club never mind the Rovers.

Whilst I do not disagree with your comments, I feel it is important that the fans do not simply drift away from this mess and rather they can stand together behind a boycott. With all due respect, you have had the snip, by that I mean you have long since not attended Ewood on matchdays. You may miss it and you may mourn not being able to go, but not going is what you do by default (save for the odd visit back to the UK). If I don't go its because I can't bear to go and support this mess, it hurts and I miss it. But rather than sit disenfranchised listening to the radio on a matchday I would rather count myself amongst a band of brothers who are not going because we cannot sit idly by and be complicit with events that are happening. When Kean went I ended my protest and was at the Wolves game. With the current malaise over appointing a new manager I am seriously considering withhold my support once more and I would rather do that collectively than as a lone voice.

good post Mr purple

Mr Purple wrote:

French Rover wrote:
All owners want a reasonably compliant manager LP, as not many managers get all things their own way - not even at top clubs like Chelsea, or Man United or City. At the end of the day at all clubs the owners are those that must be obeyed.

What we need is strong manager who can grow the club and get success (and get progress for the club and his own reputation) - but if he and the owners do not have the same vision or plan for success then neither the manager nor the club will succeed.

Also I really dont' understand why anyone on here is still talking about attendances and boycotts? Yes the one that got Kean out was effective but that would never work again.That was a one-time only set of circumstances that should never be repeated.

If people don't like the next appointment then fair enough they can vote with their feet as always has been the case, but any talk of any threats of future fan boycotts over managerial appointments is nonsense and would not be listened to by any club never mind the Rovers.

Whilst I do not disagree with your comments, I feel it is important that the fans do not simply drift away from this mess and rather they can stand together behind a boycott. With all due respect, you have had the snip, by that I mean you have long since not attended Ewood on matchdays. You may miss it and you may mourn not being able to go, but not going is what you do by default (save for the odd visit back to the UK). If I don't go its because I can't bear to go and support this mess, it hurts and I miss it. But rather than sit disenfranchised listening to the radio on a matchday I would rather count myself amongst a band of brothers who are not going because we cannot sit idly by and be complicit with events that are happening. When Kean went I ended my protest and was at the Wolves game. With the current malaise over appointing a new manager I am seriously considering withhold my support once more and I would rather do that collectively than as a lone voice.

Don't worry if things are not done correctly then you will not be a lone voice!

roverinmanchstr wrote:

French Rover wrote:
All owners want a reasonably compliant manager LP, as not many managers get all things their own way - not even at top clubs like Chelsea, or Man United or City. At the end of the day at all clubs the owners are those that must be obeyed.

What we need is strong manager who can grow the club and get success (and get progress for the club and his own reputation) - but if he and the owners do not have the same vision or plan for success then neither the manager nor the club will succeed.

Also I really dont' understand why anyone on here is still talking about attendances and boycotts? Yes the one that got Kean out was effective but that would never work again.That was a one-time only set of circumstances that should never be repeated.

If people don't like the next appointment then fair enough they can vote with their feet as always has been the case, but any talk of any threats of future fan boycotts over managerial appointments is nonsense and would not be listened to by any club never mind the Rovers.

You keep on about a strong manager??? and quote' not many managers get their own way-not even at top club like......Chel..Mu..

.Mc'.... Really, I don't know which planet you have been on BUT no one tells Ferguson what to do and it's similar .at other Prem clubs!!!!!Yes....eve

n our previous Sam Allardyce...Remember he told Venky's what to do.......
Your comments are ridiculous

No manager gets to run a club no matter how big the club, to his own whims. Every manager is responsible to the clubs owners and there are no exceptions. The Glazers at Man Utd tell Ferguson exactly what he can spend and who he has to sell and where the team has to finish in the league every season to match their budget. Hughes certainly didn't run the club the way the Arab owners wanted at Man City so he went and Chelsea even sacked Jose the'special one' because he was not doing what Abramovich wanted.
If you cant understand that this is what happens at all cubs in some degree then I would suggest it is your comments that are ridiculous.

"Kean earns fresh deal at Rovers"! I've just nearly had a heart attack after reading headline on Skysports site. Fortunately it was Jake Kean signing longer contract. Phewwww!

A Darener wrote:

Mr Purple wrote:

French Rover wrote:
All owners want a reasonably compliant manager LP, as not many managers get all things their own way - not even at top clubs like Chelsea, or Man United or City. At the end of the day at all clubs the owners are those that must be obeyed.

What we need is strong manager who can grow the club and get success (and get progress for the club and his own reputation) - but if he and the owners do not have the same vision or plan for success then neither the manager nor the club will succeed.

Also I really dont' understand why anyone on here is still talking about attendances and boycotts? Yes the one that got Kean out was effective but that would never work again.That was a one-time only set of circumstances that should never be repeated.

If people don't like the next appointment then fair enough they can vote with their feet as always has been the case, but any talk of any threats of future fan boycotts over managerial appointments is nonsense and would not be listened to by any club never mind the Rovers.

Whilst I do not disagree with your comments, I feel it is important that the fans do not simply drift away from this mess and rather they can stand together behind a boycott. With all due respect, you have had the snip, by that I mean you have long since not attended Ewood on matchdays. You may miss it and you may mourn not being able to go, but not going is what you do by default (save for the odd visit back to the UK). If I don't go its because I can't bear to go and support this mess, it hurts and I miss it. But rather than sit disenfranchised listening to the radio on a matchday I would rather count myself amongst a band of brothers who are not going because we cannot sit idly by and be complicit with events that are happening. When Kean went I ended my protest and was at the Wolves game. With the current malaise over appointing a new manager I am seriously considering withhold my support once more and I would rather do that collectively than as a lone voice.

Don't worry if things are not done correctly then you will not be a lone voice!

Hi Darener, seems the biggest threat to our clubs future comes from its fans and not its owners these days...

roverinmanchstr wrote:

French Rover wrote:
All owners want a reasonably compliant manager LP, as not many managers get all things their own way - not even at top clubs like Chelsea, or Man United or City. At the end of the day at all clubs the owners are those that must be obeyed.

What we need is strong manager who can grow the club and get success (and get progress for the club and his own reputation) - but if he and the owners do not have the same vision or plan for success then neither the manager nor the club will succeed.

Also I really dont' understand why anyone on here is still talking about attendances and boycotts? Yes the one that got Kean out was effective but that would never work again.That was a one-time only set of circumstances that should never be repeated.

If people don't like the next appointment then fair enough they can vote with their feet as always has been the case, but any talk of any threats of future fan boycotts over managerial appointments is nonsense and would not be listened to by any club never mind the Rovers.

You keep on about a strong manager??? and quote' not many managers get their own way-not even at top club like......Chel..Mu..

.Mc'.... Really, I don't know which planet you have been on BUT no one tells Ferguson what to do and it's similar .at other Prem clubs!!!!!Yes....eve

n our previous Sam Allardyce...Remember he told Venky's what to do.......
Your comments are ridiculous

I think French Rover is actually highlighting the real issue here... the world can see that the club is being badly run and a new manager needs to make some major changes from within. The fear is that the people currently advising the owners and influencing policy will not put their own positions at risk by bringing in somebody who can and will make these changes because that will destabilise their own positions.

amazing when kean was manager most said a piece of 3 by 2 was better lets remember we are in the championship not the prem I cant get my head around shearer, sherwood old olly are seen as worse then agent kean french rover is spot on always talks a lot of sense how many manager from the prem would step down to us? we all have our favourites get behind the lads on the pitch and be thankful uncle fester as gone

French Rover wrote:
All owners want a reasonably compliant manager LP, as not many managers get all things their own way - not even at top clubs like Chelsea, or Man United or City. At the end of the day at all clubs the owners are those that must be obeyed.

What we need is strong manager who can grow the club and get success (and get progress for the club and his own reputation) - but if he and the owners do not have the same vision or plan for success then neither the manager nor the club will succeed.

Also I really dont' understand why anyone on here is still talking about attendances and boycotts? Yes the one that got Kean out was effective but that would never work again.That was a one-time only set of circumstances that should never be repeated.

If people don't like the next appointment then fair enough they can vote with their feet as always has been the case, but any talk of any threats of future fan boycotts over managerial appointments is nonsense and would not be listened to by any club never mind the Rovers.

french rover you was against the last boycott but it got kean out whether fans talk the talk or walk the walk fans will always have a massive effect on a managers stay at a club

No manager worth his salt is gonna want and run your lot.

Look at the bile and hatred that you gave Kean! It was there for the whole country to see. Week in, week out.....

YOUR CHICKENS ARE COMING HOME TO ROOST!!!!!!

Shebby Singh would be surprised if you told him today is Thursday! The man is a total buffoon, a front man for the Venky's, and hasn't a clue about English football. He could not make a decision to save his life - and the same goes with the other two Stooges, Shaw and Agnew! tHE MOST PATHETIC MANAGEMENT TEAM IN OUR HISTORY.

For the last 2 years, this club has made the wrong decision at every opportunity. It has gone from the best run club in the Premier League to a Championship club run by amateurs, and we can only speculate when the decline will end.

Would you work for this shower? Because I for one certainly wouldn't. That's why I do not believe for one minute that most of the big names have actually applied for the job. Why else is it taking so long?

The madness at Ewood goes on!

SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB NOW

French Rover wrote:

roverinmanchstr wrote:

French Rover wrote:
All owners want a reasonably compliant manager LP, as not many managers get all things their own way - not even at top clubs like Chelsea, or Man United or City. At the end of the day at all clubs the owners are those that must be obeyed.

What we need is strong manager who can grow the club and get success (and get progress for the club and his own reputation) - but if he and the owners do not have the same vision or plan for success then neither the manager nor the club will succeed.

Also I really dont' understand why anyone on here is still talking about attendances and boycotts? Yes the one that got Kean out was effective but that would never work again.That was a one-time only set of circumstances that should never be repeated.

If people don't like the next appointment then fair enough they can vote with their feet as always has been the case, but any talk of any threats of future fan boycotts over managerial appointments is nonsense and would not be listened to by any club never mind the Rovers.

You keep on about a strong manager??? and quote' not many managers get their own way-not even at top club like......Chel..Mu..


.Mc'.... Really, I don't know which planet you have been on BUT no one tells Ferguson what to do and it's similar .at other Prem clubs!!!!!Yes....eve


n our previous Sam Allardyce...Remember he told Venky's what to do.......
Your comments are ridiculous

No manager gets to run a club no matter how big the club, to his own whims. Every manager is responsible to the clubs owners and there are no exceptions. The Glazers at Man Utd tell Ferguson exactly what he can spend and who he has to sell and where the team has to finish in the league every season to match their budget. Hughes certainly didn't run the club the way the Arab owners wanted at Man City so he went and Chelsea even sacked Jose the'special one' because he was not doing what Abramovich wanted.
If you cant understand that this is what happens at all cubs in some degree then I would suggest it is your comments that are ridiculous.

yes!!!.... thats why they are contiually at the top of the Premier League...Why don't you stop talking absolute bo!locks by writing so much rubbish(trying to justify your comments) and admit that no respectable/otherwis
e manager will take on the Rovers Job because Venky's are incompetent, ignorant and clueless...The 'so called' applicants of 'high quality' are being undermined by the changes of prefrence (if these applicants really exist at all). Its a total fiasco embraced by Venky's

History helps Rovers. For example, the current problem is to get a good manager.

History has shown that listening to advisors who do not have the best interests of the club at heart leads to all kinds of problems.

History has shown that appointing a coach inexperienced as a manager leads to relegation and chaos.

History shows that firing respected experienced chair and board and replacing them with inexperienced pundits or failed executives only saves a few quid on wages but costs Rovers thousands on lost revenue.

Venkys should also understand the concept of Karma. Garbage in = garbage out. Bad decisions lead to bad results. More bad decisions lead to more bad results.

Einstein was a respected man who knew a thing or two. So please heed his advice, Venkys: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results is insanity, not good business.

The sacking of Sam the appointment of Kean the involvement of Hans Christian the fact that Venkys stood by and watch the inevitable happen created the unrest that led to the boycott.The appointment of our next manager is a different matter,if Shebby appoints a manager who he believes can do the job at Rovers and he and Venkys back him and allow him to do the job then the fans should back him.We all have different opinions thats the beauty of football but somebody has to make the appointment and when they do we get behind the team.I'm sure the fans will back the manager and hope he succeeds no more talk of boycotts the fact some fans can't move on is down to the distrust created by Kean and his gang.the virus he brought to the club runs deep but lets hope it can be rooted out once and for all by by running the club for everybodies benefit and take us forward once again.

roverinmanchstr wrote:

French Rover wrote:

roverinmanchstr wrote:

French Rover wrote:
All owners want a reasonably compliant manager LP, as not many managers get all things their own way - not even at top clubs like Chelsea, or Man United or City. At the end of the day at all clubs the owners are those that must be obeyed.

What we need is strong manager who can grow the club and get success (and get progress for the club and his own reputation) - but if he and the owners do not have the same vision or plan for success then neither the manager nor the club will succeed.

Also I really dont' understand why anyone on here is still talking about attendances and boycotts? Yes the one that got Kean out was effective but that would never work again.That was a one-time only set of circumstances that should never be repeated.

If people don't like the next appointment then fair enough they can vote with their feet as always has been the case, but any talk of any threats of future fan boycotts over managerial appointments is nonsense and would not be listened to by any club never mind the Rovers.

You keep on about a strong manager??? and quote' not many managers get their own way-not even at top club like......Chel..Mu..



.Mc'.... Really, I don't know which planet you have been on BUT no one tells Ferguson what to do and it's similar .at other Prem clubs!!!!!Yes....eve



n our previous Sam Allardyce...Remember he told Venky's what to do.......
Your comments are ridiculous

No manager gets to run a club no matter how big the club, to his own whims. Every manager is responsible to the clubs owners and there are no exceptions. The Glazers at Man Utd tell Ferguson exactly what he can spend and who he has to sell and where the team has to finish in the league every season to match their budget. Hughes certainly didn't run the club the way the Arab owners wanted at Man City so he went and Chelsea even sacked Jose the'special one' because he was not doing what Abramovich wanted.
If you cant understand that this is what happens at all cubs in some degree then I would suggest it is your comments that are ridiculous.

yes!!!.... thats why they are contiually at the top of the Premier League...Why don't you stop talking absolute bo!locks by writing so much rubbish(trying to justify your comments) and admit that no respectable/otherwis

e manager will take on the Rovers Job because Venky's are incompetent, ignorant and clueless...The 'so called' applicants of 'high quality' are being undermined by the changes of prefrence (if these applicants really exist at all). Its a total fiasco embraced by Venky's

I think you kind of lost the plot on this post mate as you fail to make any sensible points - so best to let it go now I think.

As for thinking that the applicants for the managers job don't even 'exist' then that about sums it the nonsense from you.

eddie the eagle wrote:
The sacking of Sam the appointment of Kean the involvement of Hans Christian the fact that Venkys stood by and watch the inevitable happen created the unrest that led to the boycott.The appointment of our next manager is a different matter,if Shebby appoints a manager who he believes can do the job at Rovers and he and Venkys back him and allow him to do the job then the fans should back him.We all have different opinions thats the beauty of football but somebody has to make the appointment and when they do we get behind the team.I'm sure the fans will back the manager and hope he succeeds no more talk of boycotts the fact some fans can't move on is down to the distrust created by Kean and his gang.the virus he brought to the club runs deep but lets hope it can be rooted out once and for all by by running the club for everybodies benefit and take us forward once again.

well said Eddie...some common sense on here at last.

28th December 2012.

That is the date you should have a red pen circled around on your calendars.

A claimant has 3 months in which to bring a claim for constructive dismissal.

It is coming. Mark my words.

benal13 wrote:

French Rover wrote:
All owners want a reasonably compliant manager LP, as not many managers get all things their own way - not even at top clubs like Chelsea, or Man United or City. At the end of the day at all clubs the owners are those that must be obeyed.

What we need is strong manager who can grow the club and get success (and get progress for the club and his own reputation) - but if he and the owners do not have the same vision or plan for success then neither the manager nor the club will succeed.

Also I really dont' understand why anyone on here is still talking about attendances and boycotts? Yes the one that got Kean out was effective but that would never work again.That was a one-time only set of circumstances that should never be repeated.

If people don't like the next appointment then fair enough they can vote with their feet as always has been the case, but any talk of any threats of future fan boycotts over managerial appointments is nonsense and would not be listened to by any club never mind the Rovers.

french rover you was against the last boycott but it got kean out whether fans talk the talk or walk the walk fans will always have a massive effect on a managers stay at a club

agreed Bemal13...the boycott was the main (but not the only) reason why Kean went and it is every fans right to express their views but we will never move forward as a club if you keep threatening the club with sanctions every time they decide something that some fans don't agree with. Time for common sense now and for all fans to support whoever is the next manager at Rovers and give whoever it is at least a fair chance to succeed. Otherwise we might as well all call it a day now.

Mr Purple wrote:

French Rover wrote:
All owners want a reasonably compliant manager LP, as not many managers get all things their own way - not even at top clubs like Chelsea, or Man United or City. At the end of the day at all clubs the owners are those that must be obeyed.

What we need is strong manager who can grow the club and get success (and get progress for the club and his own reputation) - but if he and the owners do not have the same vision or plan for success then neither the manager nor the club will succeed.

Also I really dont' understand why anyone on here is still talking about attendances and boycotts? Yes the one that got Kean out was effective but that would never work again.That was a one-time only set of circumstances that should never be repeated.

If people don't like the next appointment then fair enough they can vote with their feet as always has been the case, but any talk of any threats of future fan boycotts over managerial appointments is nonsense and would not be listened to by any club never mind the Rovers.

Whilst I do not disagree with your comments, I feel it is important that the fans do not simply drift away from this mess and rather they can stand together behind a boycott. With all due respect, you have had the snip, by that I mean you have long since not attended Ewood on matchdays. You may miss it and you may mourn not being able to go, but not going is what you do by default (save for the odd visit back to the UK). If I don't go its because I can't bear to go and support this mess, it hurts and I miss it. But rather than sit disenfranchised listening to the radio on a matchday I would rather count myself amongst a band of brothers who are not going because we cannot sit idly by and be complicit with events that are happening. When Kean went I ended my protest and was at the Wolves game. With the current malaise over appointing a new manager I am seriously considering withhold my support once more and I would rather do that collectively than as a lone voice.

I think the threat of another boycott should be a very real prospect if we don't get our own way with regards to the managerial appointment. I understand that everyone can't be happy but the general consensus is that the next manager should be experienced, should be a real manager as apposed to a coach, should not be Eric black or Ali, and should not be on JA's books. I bought my season ticket after kean left purely because I'm a man of my word, but I would have no hesitation in boycotting again should the wrong managerial appointment be made. I know I'm acting like a spoilt child but the fans are the only ones under the current regime who care about the club and have the clubs best interests at heart. Admittedly, boycotting only harms the club but I can't see any other way of showing my disgust at the way we are being treated.

eddie the eagle wrote:
The sacking of Sam the appointment of Kean the involvement of Hans Christian the fact that Venkys stood by and watch the inevitable happen created the unrest that led to the boycott.The appointment of our next manager is a different matter,if Shebby appoints a manager who he believes can do the job at Rovers and he and Venkys back him and allow him to do the job then the fans should back him.We all have different opinions thats the beauty of football but somebody has to make the appointment and when they do we get behind the team.I'm sure the fans will back the manager and hope he succeeds no more talk of boycotts the fact some fans can't move on is down to the distrust created by Kean and his gang.the virus he brought to the club runs deep but lets hope it can be rooted out once and for all by by running the club for everybodies benefit and take us forward once again.

good points. Shebby Singh has done well since his arrival, he won his duel with Keane who controlled everything at club before. We've signed Rhodes. Fans need to get behind the team and anyone appointed

Just how naiive is Andy Cryer to write such a piece of idealistic and nostalgic drivel. It is not the history and heritage of Blackburn Rovers that will have prospective managers queuing the length of Nuttall Street it is the inflated salary that any mediocre manager can command in today's game. There is absolutely NO RISK whatsoever in taking the Ewood Park job. If the next manager is a success he will be hailed a hero. If he fails he will be able to cite the interference of the owners and the attitude of the fans for hounding him out and everyone in English football would sympathise with that view.
Having suffered the open and public indignity of driving Steve Kean to the point of resignation Shebby The Snake Singh is now part of the problem, rather than part of the solution but with the possible expceptions of Tim Sherwood and Ole Gunnar Soljkear, there are a dozen managers with P45s in their pockets who would kiss Shebby's shoes for an interview.

This means he has no excuse for not appointing an experienced top name. The task to bring Rovers back on track with this present squad and to get the fans back on track and also keep the owners from interfering etc is an enormous task and can only be achieved by someone who has done do it before and knows how to do it. Not someone who has never put a team sheet out before and will behave like a frightened rabbit caught in the headlights when he realises the enormity of the task. You have to know how to handle these things and Shebby Sing doesn't seem to know either. Dither dither etc.

eddie the eagle wrote:
The sacking of Sam the appointment of Kean the involvement of Hans Christian the fact that Venkys stood by and watch the inevitable happen created the unrest that led to the boycott.The appointment of our next manager is a different matter,if Shebby appoints a manager who he believes can do the job at Rovers and he and Venkys back him and allow him to do the job then the fans should back him.We all have different opinions thats the beauty of football but somebody has to make the appointment and when they do we get behind the team.I'm sure the fans will back the manager and hope he succeeds no more talk of boycotts the fact some fans can't move on is down to the distrust created by Kean and his gang.the virus he brought to the club runs deep but lets hope it can be rooted out once and for all by by running the club for everybodies benefit and take us forward once again.

I'm sure fans will get behind the new manager (unless it is Black) but don't rule out boycotts further down the line. It's not like someone is organising or trying to gather supporters for boycotts - Rovers fans are too sensible to be coerced or conned into something they don't agree with - but it's an option that many fans will take if the new manager turns out to be a yes-man.

All Rovers fans want the best for your club, want our team to win and know the power of making a loud positive noise making a 12th man. I feel sure that all signs of positivity, of 100% commitment, of better fitness levels, of good defending, good tactics and fighting hard right to the death, will be applauded and encouraged by the fans, and fans will come flooding back. But if it's the same old pre-match or post-match dishonesty, words not reflecting reality, bad team selections etc, nobody will be able to blame any fans if they decide to boycott. We've all just had enough! These have been the worse 2 years in Rovers history with the possibility of extinction still hanging over our team and our community.

It is not the fans and their protests who have anything to be ashamed of at all. It is all down to Venkys, Kean and their wholesale lack of care for the club. Don't ever forget that!

French Rover wrote:

roverinmanchstr wrote:

French Rover wrote:
All owners want a reasonably compliant manager LP, as not many managers get all things their own way - not even at top clubs like Chelsea, or Man United or City. At the end of the day at all clubs the owners are those that must be obeyed.

What we need is strong manager who can grow the club and get success (and get progress for the club and his own reputation) - but if he and the owners do not have the same vision or plan for success then neither the manager nor the club will succeed.

Also I really dont' understand why anyone on here is still talking about attendances and boycotts? Yes the one that got Kean out was effective but that would never work again.That was a one-time only set of circumstances that should never be repeated.

If people don't like the next appointment then fair enough they can vote with their feet as always has been the case, but any talk of any threats of future fan boycotts over managerial appointments is nonsense and would not be listened to by any club never mind the Rovers.

You keep on about a strong manager??? and quote' not many managers get their own way-not even at top club like......Chel..Mu..


.Mc'.... Really, I don't know which planet you have been on BUT no one tells Ferguson what to do and it's similar .at other Prem clubs!!!!!Yes....eve


n our previous Sam Allardyce...Remember he told Venky's what to do.......
Your comments are ridiculous

No manager gets to run a club no matter how big the club, to his own whims. Every manager is responsible to the clubs owners and there are no exceptions. The Glazers at Man Utd tell Ferguson exactly what he can spend and who he has to sell and where the team has to finish in the league every season to match their budget. Hughes certainly didn't run the club the way the Arab owners wanted at Man City so he went and Chelsea even sacked Jose the'special one' because he was not doing what Abramovich wanted.
If you cant understand that this is what happens at all cubs in some degree then I would suggest it is your comments that are ridiculous.

There's a difference between not running the club and bending over and taking it in the rear every time the Venkys snap their fingers

French Rover wrote:

benal13 wrote:

French Rover wrote:
All owners want a reasonably compliant manager LP, as not many managers get all things their own way - not even at top clubs like Chelsea, or Man United or City. At the end of the day at all clubs the owners are those that must be obeyed.

What we need is strong manager who can grow the club and get success (and get progress for the club and his own reputation) - but if he and the owners do not have the same vision or plan for success then neither the manager nor the club will succeed.

Also I really dont' understand why anyone on here is still talking about attendances and boycotts? Yes the one that got Kean out was effective but that would never work again.That was a one-time only set of circumstances that should never be repeated.

If people don't like the next appointment then fair enough they can vote with their feet as always has been the case, but any talk of any threats of future fan boycotts over managerial appointments is nonsense and would not be listened to by any club never mind the Rovers.

french rover you was against the last boycott but it got kean out whether fans talk the talk or walk the walk fans will always have a massive effect on a managers stay at a club

agreed Bemal13...the boycott was the main (but not the only) reason why Kean went and it is every fans right to express their views but we will never move forward as a club if you keep threatening the club with sanctions every time they decide something that some fans don't agree with. Time for common sense now and for all fans to support whoever is the next manager at Rovers and give whoever it is at least a fair chance to succeed. Otherwise we might as well all call it a day now.

i agree to a point but i think what erks a lot of the fans is the fact that the owners and other rabble making the decisions didnt actually get rid of kean he just saw an opportunity to make more money by claiming constructive dismmisle,so if they had there way he would stil be in charge so decision making is not there strong point is it or we would have had a new manager over 12 months ago

Mr Purple wrote:

French Rover wrote:
All owners want a reasonably compliant manager LP, as not many managers get all things their own way - not even at top clubs like Chelsea, or Man United or City. At the end of the day at all clubs the owners are those that must be obeyed.

What we need is strong manager who can grow the club and get success (and get progress for the club and his own reputation) - but if he and the owners do not have the same vision or plan for success then neither the manager nor the club will succeed.

Also I really dont' understand why anyone on here is still talking about attendances and boycotts? Yes the one that got Kean out was effective but that would never work again.That was a one-time only set of circumstances that should never be repeated.

If people don't like the next appointment then fair enough they can vote with their feet as always has been the case, but any talk of any threats of future fan boycotts over managerial appointments is nonsense and would not be listened to by any club never mind the Rovers.

Whilst I do not disagree with your comments, I feel it is important that the fans do not simply drift away from this mess and rather they can stand together behind a boycott. With all due respect, you have had the snip, by that I mean you have long since not attended Ewood on matchdays. You may miss it and you may mourn not being able to go, but not going is what you do by default (save for the odd visit back to the UK). If I don't go its because I can't bear to go and support this mess, it hurts and I miss it. But rather than sit disenfranchised listening to the radio on a matchday I would rather count myself amongst a band of brothers who are not going because we cannot sit idly by and be complicit with events that are happening. When Kean went I ended my protest and was at the Wolves game. With the current malaise over appointing a new manager I am seriously considering withhold my support once more and I would rather do that collectively than as a lone voice.

What we all want is for the manager and the owners pulling in the same direction for the benefit of BRFC and not intent on lining their own pockets to the detriment of the club.

burnleyglentoran wrote:
No manager worth his salt is gonna want and run your lot.

Look at the bile and hatred that you gave Kean! It was there for the whole country to see. Week in, week out.....

YOUR CHICKENS ARE COMING HOME TO ROOST!!!!!!

You've a short memory mate. What about the abuse you lot gave John Bond and setting fire to Jimmy Mullen's wife's dress in a chip shop.

burnleyglentoran wrote:
No manager worth his salt is gonna want and run your lot. Look at the bile and hatred that you gave Kean! It was there for the whole country to see. Week in, week out..... YOUR CHICKENS ARE COMING HOME TO ROOST!!!!!!

Got to love these Dingles. How can you come on here spouting about managers not wanting to come to our club when yours has just dumped you to drop down a division?

I guess he noticed the extra finger starting to grow.

French Rover wrote:
All owners want a reasonably compliant manager LP, as not many managers get all things their own way - not even at top clubs like Chelsea, or Man United or City. At the end of the day at all clubs the owners are those that must be obeyed.

What we need is strong manager who can grow the club and get success (and get progress for the club and his own reputation) - but if he and the owners do not have the same vision or plan for success then neither the manager nor the club will succeed.

Also I really dont' understand why anyone on here is still talking about attendances and boycotts? Yes the one that got Kean out was effective but that would never work again.That was a one-time only set of circumstances that should never be repeated.

If people don't like the next appointment then fair enough they can vote with their feet as always has been the case, but any talk of any threats of future fan boycotts over managerial appointments is nonsense and would not be listened to by any club never mind the Rovers.

Ever the liberal FR!

At the end of a day a manager should be a strong force, breathing fire and feared by all but his bosses.
Whilst you are correct about budget and season aims in your Fergie example, I would say that most directors will leave the manager to thier own devices. As soon as a manager is undermined, everyone underneath him will start to question the authority.

We need a psycho in the dressing room & on the touchline.

burnleyglentoran wrote:
No manager worth his salt is gonna want and run your lot.

Look at the bile and hatred that you gave Kean! It was there for the whole country to see. Week in, week out.....

YOUR CHICKENS ARE COMING HOME TO ROOST!!!!!!

Better to be proactive than reactive. You mentally challenged lot have sat idly by for the last 30 odd years , lurching from one balls up to the next, believing all your owners / chairmen have told you.
Lord and Kilby have been draining your club for years but you don't have the brain power to see it.
You profess to be a bigger club than us so tell me this,over the last 30 years why haven't you:-
* Achieved what Rovers have?
* Had better attendances?
* Had a better ground?
* Had as much media attention?
2 of your last 3 managers have walked out, couldn't stand operating under a dictatorship.
But yet you come on here and take the p1ss.
Pure unadulterated jealousy is the only reason I can think of.
When will you get it into your thick skulls, Rovers fans only care about their club, don't give two f**ks about your tinpot club and that's the reason why we want our next manager to be chosen correctly.

RespectTheK-Dog wrote:
28th December 2012.

That is the date you should have a red pen circled around on your calendars.

A claimant has 3 months in which to bring a claim for constructive dismissal.

It is coming. Mark my words.

Who do you think has been unfairly dismissed? Wouldn't be the guy with the 28% win ratio would it?

RespectTheK-Dog wrote:
28th December 2012.

That is the date you should have a red pen circled around on your calendars.

A claimant has 3 months in which to bring a claim for constructive dismissal.

It is coming. Mark my words.

On exactly what grounds will this claim be made ?

Performance - SK presided over a slide down the premier league and then relegation.

Standard of Conduct - SK lost his licence for D&D and was then filmed libelling his predecessor

Customer Relations - SK was subject to abuse and ridicule from the majority of Rovers supporters who actively protested for his removal

Staff relations - SK was regularly in high profile disputes wih members of his own squad

Any one of these could have resulted in him being dismissed but while all this was going on the owners extended his contract and supported him in recruiting a whole squad of players.

Seems to me any reasonable tribunal would simply say you were lucky they put up with you as long as they did !

unclejacklegend wrote:

Mr Purple wrote:

French Rover wrote:
All owners want a reasonably compliant manager LP, as not many managers get all things their own way - not even at top clubs like Chelsea, or Man United or City. At the end of the day at all clubs the owners are those that must be obeyed.

What we need is strong manager who can grow the club and get success (and get progress for the club and his own reputation) - but if he and the owners do not have the same vision or plan for success then neither the manager nor the club will succeed.

Also I really dont' understand why anyone on here is still talking about attendances and boycotts? Yes the one that got Kean out was effective but that would never work again.That was a one-time only set of circumstances that should never be repeated.

If people don't like the next appointment then fair enough they can vote with their feet as always has been the case, but any talk of any threats of future fan boycotts over managerial appointments is nonsense and would not be listened to by any club never mind the Rovers.

Whilst I do not disagree with your comments, I feel it is important that the fans do not simply drift away from this mess and rather they can stand together behind a boycott. With all due respect, you have had the snip, by that I mean you have long since not attended Ewood on matchdays. You may miss it and you may mourn not being able to go, but not going is what you do by default (save for the odd visit back to the UK). If I don't go its because I can't bear to go and support this mess, it hurts and I miss it. But rather than sit disenfranchised listening to the radio on a matchday I would rather count myself amongst a band of brothers who are not going because we cannot sit idly by and be complicit with events that are happening. When Kean went I ended my protest and was at the Wolves game. With the current malaise over appointing a new manager I am seriously considering withhold my support once more and I would rather do that collectively than as a lone voice.

I think the threat of another boycott should be a very real prospect if we don't get our own way with regards to the managerial appointment. I understand that everyone can't be happy but the general consensus is that the next manager should be experienced, should be a real manager as apposed to a coach, should not be Eric black or Ali, and should not be on JA's books. I bought my season ticket after kean left purely because I'm a man of my word, but I would have no hesitation in boycotting again should the wrong managerial appointment be made. I know I'm acting like a spoilt child but the fans are the only ones under the current regime who care about the club and have the clubs best interests at heart. Admittedly, boycotting only harms the club but I can't see any other way of showing my disgust at the way we are being treated.

Grow up and follow your team, you're like a load of spoilt children, **** and moaning because you can't have your own way.

MxMave wrote:

French Rover wrote:
All owners want a reasonably compliant manager LP, as not many managers get all things their own way - not even at top clubs like Chelsea, or Man United or City. At the end of the day at all clubs the owners are those that must be obeyed.

What we need is strong manager who can grow the club and get success (and get progress for the club and his own reputation) - but if he and the owners do not have the same vision or plan for success then neither the manager nor the club will succeed.

Also I really dont' understand why anyone on here is still talking about attendances and boycotts? Yes the one that got Kean out was effective but that would never work again.That was a one-time only set of circumstances that should never be repeated.

If people don't like the next appointment then fair enough they can vote with their feet as always has been the case, but any talk of any threats of future fan boycotts over managerial appointments is nonsense and would not be listened to by any club never mind the Rovers.

Ever the liberal FR!

At the end of a day a manager should be a strong force, breathing fire and feared by all but his bosses.
Whilst you are correct about budget and season aims in your Fergie example, I would say that most directors will leave the manager to thier own devices. As soon as a manager is undermined, everyone underneath him will start to question the authority.

We need a psycho in the dressing room & on the touchline.

Stuart Pearce maybe Mxmave? Not many would argue with him (owners or fans) and he has a pretty good record as manager of the under 21's....actually the more I think of it the better it sounds!

Why dont we stop all this childish bickering,and wait and see who they bring in as manager,get behind the team and give the new manager a chance,experienced manager or not,every inexperienced manager has to start somewhere, you never know we may just come up with a gem, so stop all the negativity get behind the team and the new manager, you never know what may happen.

A well balanced article. What hasn't helped was Kean and how he behaved running to India at the drop of a hat. Venkys should have been told there and then that football clubs do not run that way and a managers place is with his squad. Blackburn Rovers were here a long time before the venkys circus and will be there a long time after they have gone. We can point the finger at the premier league fit and proper owners assessment and the Walker Trust but we are where we are. As each day goes by and the manager vacancy farce continues, we see more evidence of Venkys inability to run a football club. Let's hope the momentum hasn't gone for a supporters trust. Things haven't improved since Kean left which proves Kean was a symptom, Venkys are the disease.
Venkys circus out of Ewood now

EXCELLENT POSTING....ABOUT B.........G TIME THE L.E.T.CAME OUT WITH THE FACTS AND NOT PLAY THE POLITICALLY CORRECT G-BETWEEN.
I SEE IN THE NEWS THAT THE PORTSMOUTH SUPPORTERS TRUST HAS BEEN LOOKED AT HAS THE "PERFERRED BIDDER" FOR THEIR CLUB.....REPLACING A MR. CHAINRAI...NOW LOOKED UPON HAS BEING LIKELY UNSUITABLE.....!!!!!


WELL....AT LEAST SOMEONE IS LEARNING FROM THE ROVERS BOLLYWOOD SAGA OF THE LAST TWO YEARS.

kiwipom73 wrote:
EXCELLENT POSTING....ABOUT B.........G TIME THE L.E.T.CAME OUT WITH THE FACTS AND NOT PLAY THE POLITICALLY CORRECT G-BETWEEN. I SEE IN THE NEWS THAT THE PORTSMOUTH SUPPORTERS TRUST HAS BEEN LOOKED AT HAS THE "PERFERRED BIDDER" FOR THEIR CLUB.....REPLACING A MR. CHAINRAI...NOW LOOKED UPON HAS BEING LIKELY UNSUITABLE.....!!!!! WELL....AT LEAST SOMEONE IS LEARNING FROM THE ROVERS BOLLYWOOD SAGA OF THE LAST TWO YEARS.

Wow! Great idea!..............S
tart a Supporters Trust!. If we can persuade 250,000 fans to stump up £200 each we could raise enough money to buy the club!
Some people fail to realise that one of the main reasons that Venky's now own this club is that the Walker Trust could no longer continue to subsidise supporters who were not prepared to pay a reasonable price to watch the Premiership football they demanded.
Even if Venky's DID walk away at a loss, do you honestly believe that any serious investor would put money into this club having seen how the fans behave if they don't get what they want?
I am no lover of the Venky's, I mistrust their agents, I despise their advisor and have no faith in their management team but I WILL support the team and the club as positively as I can because the so - called boycotters, moaners, whiners and whatever manager happens to be in OUT brigade will drag this club down terminally. Better Bollywood than Armagedon.

Venky's will make yat another wrong decision when they eventually appoint a new manager. They are incapable of running rovers correctly. Wish they would sell up and bog off

burnleyglentoran wrote:
No manager worth his salt is gonna want and run your lot.

Look at the bile and hatred that you gave Kean! It was there for the whole country to see. Week in, week out.....

YOUR CHICKENS ARE COMING HOME TO ROOST!!!!!!

Bile and hatred? Your selective memory as sharp as ever I see.

Bonleh, a club who's fans speak of a bunch of p155ed up scrubbers called the 'suicide squad' with pride.

A club so obsessed and riddled with envy and hate, the 10,000 strong crowds spend the majority of time singing about 'playing b4stard rovers' like it's an honor.

A club so unimportant and unambitious a manager would rather drop a league to manage a team with zero pedigree, 9 fans and a non league ground, instead of listening to a load of hunchbacked apes spitting and slavering vile about another football club down the road.

Keep em coming glentoran, your posts sum up dingles perfectly. Love and kisses as always x x x

Rousing and impassioned piece that encapsulates just a fraction of the regard that fans of all tenure have for this club. Unfortunately, given the way things are going with the appointment and our past experiences with Venkys, I fear you may as well be pssing in the wind. My expectation is that our exit from this division is more likely to be via the back door than the front.

Good article Andy, but we now think that the damage is unrepairable. The venkeys and advisors have completely distroyed the name of BRFC. The lost supporters won't come back til they all have departed Ewood. We are the clowns of football and no one takes us serious anymore.

unclejacklegend wrote:

Mr Purple wrote:

French Rover wrote:
All owners want a reasonably compliant manager LP, as not many managers get all things their own way - not even at top clubs like Chelsea, or Man United or City. At the end of the day at all clubs the owners are those that must be obeyed.

What we need is strong manager who can grow the club and get success (and get progress for the club and his own reputation) - but if he and the owners do not have the same vision or plan for success then neither the manager nor the club will succeed.

Also I really dont' understand why anyone on here is still talking about attendances and boycotts? Yes the one that got Kean out was effective but that would never work again.That was a one-time only set of circumstances that should never be repeated.

If people don't like the next appointment then fair enough they can vote with their feet as always has been the case, but any talk of any threats of future fan boycotts over managerial appointments is nonsense and would not be listened to by any club never mind the Rovers.

Whilst I do not disagree with your comments, I feel it is important that the fans do not simply drift away from this mess and rather they can stand together behind a boycott. With all due respect, you have had the snip, by that I mean you have long since not attended Ewood on matchdays. You may miss it and you may mourn not being able to go, but not going is what you do by default (save for the odd visit back to the UK). If I don't go its because I can't bear to go and support this mess, it hurts and I miss it. But rather than sit disenfranchised listening to the radio on a matchday I would rather count myself amongst a band of brothers who are not going because we cannot sit idly by and be complicit with events that are happening. When Kean went I ended my protest and was at the Wolves game. With the current malaise over appointing a new manager I am seriously considering withhold my support once more and I would rather do that collectively than as a lone voice.

I think the threat of another boycott should be a very real prospect if we don't get our own way with regards to the managerial appointment. I understand that everyone can't be happy but the general consensus is that the next manager should be experienced, should be a real manager as apposed to a coach, should not be Eric black or Ali, and should not be on JA's books. I bought my season ticket after kean left purely because I'm a man of my word, but I would have no hesitation in boycotting again should the wrong managerial appointment be made. I know I'm acting like a spoilt child but the fans are the only ones under the current regime who care about the club and have the clubs best interests at heart. Admittedly, boycotting only harms the club but I can't see any other way of showing my disgust at the way we are being treated.

Yet another scruff threatening a boycott if the Venky's don't appoint someone he approves of...PATHETIC

YOU DON"T OWN THE CLUB, NUMB NUTS, YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SUPPORTING THE TEAM. YOU HAVE NO SAY .

Kean sack thousands back? Don't make me laugh.

You wonder why no one wants the manager's job?

How the hell do we know for certain there have been 20 or more applications?
Because Venky’s have told us so?
All I have seen and heard are managers distancing themselves from the job.
Can anybody seriously believe a word those jokers say with their history?
The current situation is no different than past debacle episodes such as Samba staying, Jones staying, Hoillet signing, top 10 finishes, champions league football, the list is endless since they took charge, and before anyone says; “that was Keans doing”
Remember he was their puppet, he was the one back and forth to Pune, retuning with a hatful of promises to feed the fans
Nothing has changed for me, there is still nobody at the club who knows his **** from his elbow with regards to running a football club and managing a football team
Which manager with any self-worth is going to work with this lot?
I can only see a desperate manager or a man who has not managed previously
Has for some of the suggestions such as Hill, McCarthy and Holloway, they are laughable in terms of quality managers
But we have the Venkys as owners so quality is out of the window, jokers are the rage!
That leaves a manager who has no previous experience, which is a gamble but it would be my choice out of a bad bunch.
I also keep reading that the club is still full of mr andersons clients, now I’m sure he has a lot of clients at a lot of clubs but his dealings with our club leave a lingering bad taste and if another manager landed the job who was again his client, well wouldn’t that be a cosy coincidence?

About a boycott. This may become a self fulfilling prophecy if a proficient Manager is not appointed. Why ? Because many supporters will eventually grow weary of poor football, no entertainment, a disfunctional club and the constant negativity that this all creates.
They will decide that the Rovers we knew does not exist any more and will just drift away, possibly permanently. Gates less than 12,000 are definitely possible if the situation at Ewood is not corrected, and it won't be because of a boycott. Rovers history will count for little with a totally disgusted supporter. Perhaps Venkys think that club loyalty will keep the supporters attending regardless of what they do. They are wrong. some fans will, a lot won't.

NICEONESUNSHINE, wrote:

unclejacklegend wrote:

Mr Purple wrote:

French Rover wrote:
All owners want a reasonably compliant manager LP, as not many managers get all things their own way - not even at top clubs like Chelsea, or Man United or City. At the end of the day at all clubs the owners are those that must be obeyed.

What we need is strong manager who can grow the club and get success (and get progress for the club and his own reputation) - but if he and the owners do not have the same vision or plan for success then neither the manager nor the club will succeed.

Also I really dont' understand why anyone on here is still talking about attendances and boycotts? Yes the one that got Kean out was effective but that would never work again.That was a one-time only set of circumstances that should never be repeated.

If people don't like the next appointment then fair enough they can vote with their feet as always has been the case, but any talk of any threats of future fan boycotts over managerial appointments is nonsense and would not be listened to by any club never mind the Rovers.

Whilst I do not disagree with your comments, I feel it is important that the fans do not simply drift away from this mess and rather they can stand together behind a boycott. With all due respect, you have had the snip, by that I mean you have long since not attended Ewood on matchdays. You may miss it and you may mourn not being able to go, but not going is what you do by default (save for the odd visit back to the UK). If I don't go its because I can't bear to go and support this mess, it hurts and I miss it. But rather than sit disenfranchised listening to the radio on a matchday I would rather count myself amongst a band of brothers who are not going because we cannot sit idly by and be complicit with events that are happening. When Kean went I ended my protest and was at the Wolves game. With the current malaise over appointing a new manager I am seriously considering withhold my support once more and I would rather do that collectively than as a lone voice.

I think the threat of another boycott should be a very real prospect if we don't get our own way with regards to the managerial appointment. I understand that everyone can't be happy but the general consensus is that the next manager should be experienced, should be a real manager as apposed to a coach, should not be Eric black or Ali, and should not be on JA's books. I bought my season ticket after kean left purely because I'm a man of my word, but I would have no hesitation in boycotting again should the wrong managerial appointment be made. I know I'm acting like a spoilt child but the fans are the only ones under the current regime who care about the club and have the clubs best interests at heart. Admittedly, boycotting only harms the club but I can't see any other way of showing my disgust at the way we are being treated.

Yet another scruff threatening a boycott if the Venky's don't appoint someone he approves of...PATHETIC

YOU DON"T OWN THE CLUB, NUMB NUTS, YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SUPPORTING THE TEAM. YOU HAVE NO SAY .

Kean sack thousands back? Don't make me laugh.

You wonder why no one wants the manager's job?

Whats any of this got to do with you sunshine? Are you another of the bitter brigade with selective memory?

Rovers1975 wrote:

NICEONESUNSHINE, wrote:

unclejacklegend wrote:

Mr Purple wrote:

French Rover wrote:
All owners want a reasonably compliant manager LP, as not many managers get all things their own way - not even at top clubs like Chelsea, or Man United or City. At the end of the day at all clubs the owners are those that must be obeyed.

What we need is strong manager who can grow the club and get success (and get progress for the club and his own reputation) - but if he and the owners do not have the same vision or plan for success then neither the manager nor the club will succeed.

Also I really dont' understand why anyone on here is still talking about attendances and boycotts? Yes the one that got Kean out was effective but that would never work again.That was a one-time only set of circumstances that should never be repeated.

If people don't like the next appointment then fair enough they can vote with their feet as always has been the case, but any talk of any threats of future fan boycotts over managerial appointments is nonsense and would not be listened to by any club never mind the Rovers.

Whilst I do not disagree with your comments, I feel it is important that the fans do not simply drift away from this mess and rather they can stand together behind a boycott. With all due respect, you have had the snip, by that I mean you have long since not attended Ewood on matchdays. You may miss it and you may mourn not being able to go, but not going is what you do by default (save for the odd visit back to the UK). If I don't go its because I can't bear to go and support this mess, it hurts and I miss it. But rather than sit disenfranchised listening to the radio on a matchday I would rather count myself amongst a band of brothers who are not going because we cannot sit idly by and be complicit with events that are happening. When Kean went I ended my protest and was at the Wolves game. With the current malaise over appointing a new manager I am seriously considering withhold my support once more and I would rather do that collectively than as a lone voice.

I think the threat of another boycott should be a very real prospect if we don't get our own way with regards to the managerial appointment. I understand that everyone can't be happy but the general consensus is that the next manager should be experienced, should be a real manager as apposed to a coach, should not be Eric black or Ali, and should not be on JA's books. I bought my season ticket after kean left purely because I'm a man of my word, but I would have no hesitation in boycotting again should the wrong managerial appointment be made. I know I'm acting like a spoilt child but the fans are the only ones under the current regime who care about the club and have the clubs best interests at heart. Admittedly, boycotting only harms the club but I can't see any other way of showing my disgust at the way we are being treated.

Yet another scruff threatening a boycott if the Venky's don't appoint someone he approves of...PATHETIC

YOU DON"T OWN THE CLUB, NUMB NUTS, YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SUPPORTING THE TEAM. YOU HAVE NO SAY .

Kean sack thousands back? Don't make me laugh.

You wonder why no one wants the manager's job?

Whats any of this got to do with you sunshine? Are you another of the bitter brigade with selective memory?

I might have selective memory but it's not a short one :)

the reason over 20 top managers want the job is the fact that none of them feel they could possibly do worse than kean who had pathetic resuklts and still managed to retain his job.

There are some excellent posts on here but also some illogical comments.

For instance Chelsea and Manchester City are on a different planet to the Rovers. Their owners are putting up zillions for the best players in the world. Venky’s are stuffing Ewood with tuppence ha’penny players from obscure corners of the earth, unknown to the manager and who would struggle in League Two. No comparison.

Pre-Venky’s, Sparky and Sam identified the players they wanted. The considerations were – did they have the right attitude, temperament and character and would they fit into the team. John Williams and Tom Finn, in conjunction with the Walker Trust, did the sums – and the negotiations. If a player the manager wanted could be brought in at the right price he was signed. Exactly as it should be.

Of course no manager can run a club. But he MUST be allowed to run the team.

I agree, we have the most pathetic management team in our history and that, combined with the Venky’s, isn’t going to get us out of the almighty mess we are in.

I’ve said it many times before but a precursor to appointing a manager would be to appoint an experienced John Williams-type ceo. Only then can we start to rebuild the club, put a strong management team in place without any outside interference or self-interested ‘advice’ and make a ‘football’ decision on the appointment of a new manager.

I think the fans talking of further boycotts are fearing yet another catastrophic decision. And with the appalling management team we have – all submissive to Venky’s – who would expect them to get this one right? Well, it is their last chance. If they don’t, it will be curtains.

The above article is one of the best Andy Cryer has written and it would pay Shebby and Venky’s to take heed.

NICEONESUNSHINE, wrote:

Rovers1975 wrote:

NICEONESUNSHINE, wrote:

unclejacklegend wrote:

Mr Purple wrote:

French Rover wrote:
All owners want a reasonably compliant manager LP, as not many managers get all things their own way - not even at top clubs like Chelsea, or Man United or City. At the end of the day at all clubs the owners are those that must be obeyed.

What we need is strong manager who can grow the club and get success (and get progress for the club and his own reputation) - but if he and the owners do not have the same vision or plan for success then neither the manager nor the club will succeed.

Also I really dont' understand why anyone on here is still talking about attendances and boycotts? Yes the one that got Kean out was effective but that would never work again.That was a one-time only set of circumstances that should never be repeated.

If people don't like the next appointment then fair enough they can vote with their feet as always has been the case, but any talk of any threats of future fan boycotts over managerial appointments is nonsense and would not be listened to by any club never mind the Rovers.

Whilst I do not disagree with your comments, I feel it is important that the fans do not simply drift away from this mess and rather they can stand together behind a boycott. With all due respect, you have had the snip, by that I mean you have long since not attended Ewood on matchdays. You may miss it and you may mourn not being able to go, but not going is what you do by default (save for the odd visit back to the UK). If I don't go its because I can't bear to go and support this mess, it hurts and I miss it. But rather than sit disenfranchised listening to the radio on a matchday I would rather count myself amongst a band of brothers who are not going because we cannot sit idly by and be complicit with events that are happening. When Kean went I ended my protest and was at the Wolves game. With the current malaise over appointing a new manager I am seriously considering withhold my support once more and I would rather do that collectively than as a lone voice.

I think the threat of another boycott should be a very real prospect if we don't get our own way with regards to the managerial appointment. I understand that everyone can't be happy but the general consensus is that the next manager should be experienced, should be a real manager as apposed to a coach, should not be Eric black or Ali, and should not be on JA's books. I bought my season ticket after kean left purely because I'm a man of my word, but I would have no hesitation in boycotting again should the wrong managerial appointment be made. I know I'm acting like a spoilt child but the fans are the only ones under the current regime who care about the club and have the clubs best interests at heart. Admittedly, boycotting only harms the club but I can't see any other way of showing my disgust at the way we are being treated.

Yet another scruff threatening a boycott if the Venky's don't appoint someone he approves of...PATHETIC

YOU DON"T OWN THE CLUB, NUMB NUTS, YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SUPPORTING THE TEAM. YOU HAVE NO SAY .

Kean sack thousands back? Don't make me laugh.

You wonder why no one wants the manager's job?

Whats any of this got to do with you sunshine? Are you another of the bitter brigade with selective memory?

I might have selective memory but it's not a short one :)

Glad to hear your memories not short, you'll remember Burnley are a club born out of envy and denial then? So desperate to cling on to absolutely anything to prove your worth as a club. Oh so very desperate.....

I am of course assuming you're a dingle. You may just be football fan with an opinion but as far as I'm aware the only people that are as obsessed with Rovers as Rovers fans are dingles. Try harder sunshine ;)

Lancs - pensioner wrote:
We all know Shebby and the Venkys want a YES man, thats the cause for the delay.
Well get it wrong dear owners and get used to 12000 a fornight turning up at Ewood, you have been warned!
You cant run a football club like a chicken farm.

Spot on, venkys have lost it again just when you thought they had started to change for the better, they have taken away that whole football fan feeling of excitment and antisipation of a new manager coming in, that alone would once have had rovers fans on here jumping up and down and drooling at the possible prospects of a very good year in the championship now kean has gone and with a highly respected and successful manager at the helm,instead its back to the smoke and mirriors and the utter shambolic running of BRFC by a bunch of loosers.More keystone cops slapstick from shebby chaplin and more snake charming from venkys in there Indian treetop house.

We needed a new manager in while the break for the internationals was on,
why are they taking so long to appoint someone?
I can see it coming a mile off, they are still waiting to see how Eric Black does over the next 3 games, they wont spend any money, it is such a farce!!!!

RUinsane wrote:

RespectTheK-Dog wrote: 28th December 2012. That is the date you should have a red pen circled around on your calendars. A claimant has 3 months in which to bring a claim for constructive dismissal. It is coming. Mark my words.

Who do you think has been unfairly dismissed? Wouldn't be the guy with the 28% win ratio would it?

I think the club should put in a counter claim for constructive appointment.

This kind of nonsense usually ends with an out of court settlement. Of course, Venkys don't do usual, so I suppose anything could happen.

burnleyglentoran wrote:
No manager worth his salt is gonna want and run your lot. Look at the bile and hatred that you gave Kean! It was there for the whole country to see. Week in, week out..... YOUR CHICKENS ARE COMING HOME TO ROOST!!!!!!

At least we care and debate what is going wrong with our proud club, unlike your lot who can only muster a handfull of comments on your clubs plight!
Small town club small town ambition no one cares you are Burnley!

ghost of sceptic wrote:

burnleyglentoran wrote: No manager worth his salt is gonna want and run your lot. Look at the bile and hatred that you gave Kean! It was there for the whole country to see. Week in, week out..... YOUR CHICKENS ARE COMING HOME TO ROOST!!!!!!

At least we care and debate what is going wrong with our proud club, unlike your lot who can only muster a handfull of comments on your clubs plight! Small town club small town ambition no one cares you are Burnley!

Why do brfc fans reply to this numpty he is clearly very bitter about the crap thats going on with his own team bumley ,what a farce at that club ,their a bigger laughing stock than us at the mo they cant even keep hold of a sheet manager like howe even keanocihio wouldnt touch bumley fc -football-clowns.

NICEONESUNSHINE, wrote:

Rovers1975 wrote:

NICEONESUNSHINE, wrote:

unclejacklegend wrote:

Mr Purple wrote:

French Rover wrote:
All owners want a reasonably compliant manager LP, as not many managers get all things their own way - not even at top clubs like Chelsea, or Man United or City. At the end of the day at all clubs the owners are those that must be obeyed.

What we need is strong manager who can grow the club and get success (and get progress for the club and his own reputation) - but if he and the owners do not have the same vision or plan for success then neither the manager nor the club will succeed.

Also I really dont' understand why anyone on here is still talking about attendances and boycotts? Yes the one that got Kean out was effective but that would never work again.That was a one-time only set of circumstances that should never be repeated.

If people don't like the next appointment then fair enough they can vote with their feet as always has been the case, but any talk of any threats of future fan boycotts over managerial appointments is nonsense and would not be listened to by any club never mind the Rovers.

Whilst I do not disagree with your comments, I feel it is important that the fans do not simply drift away from this mess and rather they can stand together behind a boycott. With all due respect, you have had the snip, by that I mean you have long since not attended Ewood on matchdays. You may miss it and you may mourn not being able to go, but not going is what you do by default (save for the odd visit back to the UK). If I don't go its because I can't bear to go and support this mess, it hurts and I miss it. But rather than sit disenfranchised listening to the radio on a matchday I would rather count myself amongst a band of brothers who are not going because we cannot sit idly by and be complicit with events that are happening. When Kean went I ended my protest and was at the Wolves game. With the current malaise over appointing a new manager I am seriously considering withhold my support once more and I would rather do that collectively than as a lone voice.

I think the threat of another boycott should be a very real prospect if we don't get our own way with regards to the managerial appointment. I understand that everyone can't be happy but the general consensus is that the next manager should be experienced, should be a real manager as apposed to a coach, should not be Eric black or Ali, and should not be on JA's books. I bought my season ticket after kean left purely because I'm a man of my word, but I would have no hesitation in boycotting again should the wrong managerial appointment be made. I know I'm acting like a spoilt child but the fans are the only ones under the current regime who care about the club and have the clubs best interests at heart. Admittedly, boycotting only harms the club but I can't see any other way of showing my disgust at the way we are being treated.

Yet another scruff threatening a boycott if the Venky's don't appoint someone he approves of...PATHETIC

YOU DON"T OWN THE CLUB, NUMB NUTS, YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SUPPORTING THE TEAM. YOU HAVE NO SAY .

Kean sack thousands back? Don't make me laugh.

You wonder why no one wants the manager's job?

Whats any of this got to do with you sunshine? Are you another of the bitter brigade with selective memory?

I might have selective memory but it's not a short one :)

thats not what your wife says!!!!!!!!!!!

greenscreener wrote:

RespectTheK-Dog wrote:
28th December 2012.

That is the date you should have a red pen circled around on your calendars.

A claimant has 3 months in which to bring a claim for constructive dismissal.

It is coming. Mark my words.

On exactly what grounds will this claim be made ?

Performance - SK presided over a slide down the premier league and then relegation.

Standard of Conduct - SK lost his licence for D&D and was then filmed libelling his predecessor

Customer Relations - SK was subject to abuse and ridicule from the majority of Rovers supporters who actively protested for his removal

Staff relations - SK was regularly in high profile disputes wih members of his own squad

Any one of these could have resulted in him being dismissed but while all this was going on the owners extended his contract and supported him in recruiting a whole squad of players.

Seems to me any reasonable tribunal would simply say you were lucky they put up with you as long as they did !

All of what you say is true. I agree he could have been dismissed for any of these reasons. But he wasn't. (BRFC they will regret this.)

The judge will take one look at that ridiculous performance of Shabby at the fans meeting and award Kean his contract paid up.

moh wrote:

eddie the eagle wrote:
The sacking of Sam the appointment of Kean the involvement of Hans Christian the fact that Venkys stood by and watch the inevitable happen created the unrest that led to the boycott.The appointment of our next manager is a different matter,if Shebby appoints a manager who he believes can do the job at Rovers and he and Venkys back him and allow him to do the job then the fans should back him.We all have different opinions thats the beauty of football but somebody has to make the appointment and when they do we get behind the team.I'm sure the fans will back the manager and hope he succeeds no more talk of boycotts the fact some fans can't move on is down to the distrust created by Kean and his gang.the virus he brought to the club runs deep but lets hope it can be rooted out once and for all by by running the club for everybodies benefit and take us forward once again.

good points. Shebby Singh has done well since his arrival, he won his duel with Keane who controlled everything at club before. We've signed Rhodes. Fans need to get behind the team and anyone appointed

Agnew stop writing on here !

burnleyglentoran wrote:
No manager worth his salt is gonna want and run your lot.

Look at the bile and hatred that you gave Kean! It was there for the whole country to see. Week in, week out.....

YOUR CHICKENS ARE COMING HOME TO ROOST!!!!!!

a bit like your welcome to Owen Coyle when he visits