COMMENT: Rovers MUST get this decision right

11:00am Thursday 11th October 2012 in Sport Photograph of the Author By Andy Cryer, Blackburn Rovers reporter

THE first question any manager will ask Venky’s with regards the Ewood Park hot seat is surely ‘will I be allowed to manage things my way?’.

Rumours of interference on signings and team selection over the past couple of years will hardly fill any potential applicants with confidence.

They shouldn’t either. Shebby Singh – who it appears has been given the ultimate responsibility of finding a new boss for the owners – has got a massive decision to make in the next couple of weeks.

I don’t think it is over-exaggerating by saying it is probably the biggest decision facing the club since the Jack Walker era began, maybe even before that.

Once Singh has made that though, it is imperative he allows the chosen one to be his own man, with regards all the on-field aspects. Anything else simply won’t work.

That is why it is so important they know exactly who they are employing. There is no point in appointing a manager who conflicts with Venky’s own ideas as it will only end in disaster.

There is also no point in appointing a manager who is going to get upset by Singh’s own blunt statements as, by his own admission, he will continue to be the club’s biggest critic if things are going wrong.

A managerial shortlist will be finalised today and we can only hope the right people have been spoken to and the right people listened to.

I genuinely believe the club has been landed in the mess it is in because the owners listened to some shocking advice and knew no better other than to believe it.

They bought the club without any knowledge of football so it stands to reason they would have no clue about what decisions to make to help Rovers move forward.

The advice they received that Sam Allardyce should get the boot was mad, the advice to appoint Steve Kean was even madder.

The likes of John Williams tried to tell them that at the time but were simply ignored into submission. Now, they have to have learned from their mistakes. Listen to the wrong advice again and we may as well all give up.

At the end of the day though, the final decision is down to them and them alone.

The past two years has been Venky’s fault because THEY made the wrong decision.

Now is the time to get it right. Now is the time to talk to ‘football people’. The likes of Derek Shaw and Paul Agnew, who have worked in the English game for years, need to have their input and need to be doing all they can – with Singh – to steer the inexperienced owners in the right direction.

But don’t be surprised to see them take their time over this because the future of the club depends on them getting it right. A scary sentence if you consider their past mistakes.

Comments (106)

11:08am Thu 11 Oct 12

A Darener says...

THE first question any manager will ask Venky’s with regards the Ewood Park hot seat is surely ‘will I be allowed to manage things my way?’.
And the answer...Of course..... (NOT)!!!!!
THE first question any manager will ask Venky’s with regards the Ewood Park hot seat is surely ‘will I be allowed to manage things my way?’. And the answer...Of course..... (NOT)!!!!! A Darener

11:11am Thu 11 Oct 12

RoversSwiss says...

MUST get it right is a big ask. Jack got it wrong 3 times.

There seems to be enough experienced candidates interested in the job, quite a few should do a good job. He wouldn't be my choice, but I have a feeling Shearer will get the job, he's the only one to make it known publicly that he wants the job.

He's our best ever player and a legend, but I have doubts he will make our best ever manager.
MUST get it right is a big ask. Jack got it wrong 3 times. There seems to be enough experienced candidates interested in the job, quite a few should do a good job. He wouldn't be my choice, but I have a feeling Shearer will get the job, he's the only one to make it known publicly that he wants the job. He's our best ever player and a legend, but I have doubts he will make our best ever manager. RoversSwiss

11:14am Thu 11 Oct 12

A Darener says...

Well that has put the cat amongst the pigeons.....Howe at Burnley being touted for the Bournemouth job. No TOP manager is going to come to the Rovers whlst there is a chance of taking over at Burnley.
Well that has put the cat amongst the pigeons.....Howe at Burnley being touted for the Bournemouth job. No TOP manager is going to come to the Rovers whlst there is a chance of taking over at Burnley. A Darener

11:22am Thu 11 Oct 12

bypass06 says...

After spending 8 million on Rhodes, I can't see Venky's wanting to part with too much more.
At the start of the season, nearly everyone said that we should walk this league
Whoever we had as manager. So maybe Venky's are thinking the same.
Judan Ali's name is cropping up quite a bit, and i can see them going for this option,
with Shebby "grooming" him.
After spending 8 million on Rhodes, I can't see Venky's wanting to part with too much more. At the start of the season, nearly everyone said that we should walk this league Whoever we had as manager. So maybe Venky's are thinking the same. Judan Ali's name is cropping up quite a bit, and i can see them going for this option, with Shebby "grooming" him. bypass06

11:30am Thu 11 Oct 12

blue12 says...

It's not just about the the new manager but also the backroom staff that comes with him that is important. Kean has gone but he has left behind
some debris so the Ist team coaching staff going forward will be just as vital.
It's not just about the the new manager but also the backroom staff that comes with him that is important. Kean has gone but he has left behind some debris so the Ist team coaching staff going forward will be just as vital. blue12

11:30am Thu 11 Oct 12

tiojo says...

The advice that the Venky's are listening to comes from their own appointee Shebby Singh. He is nothing more than a loquacious, erractic TV critic with no demonstrable knowledge of how to run a football club. The appointment of a manager is just a side show. Whoever is appointed their primary difficulty will not be in dealing with players and tactics but managing the owners who so far have shown no sign of being willing to seek and accept good advice. The club's difficulties will, unfortunately, continue beyond the appointment of the next manager.
The advice that the Venky's are listening to comes from their own appointee Shebby Singh. He is nothing more than a loquacious, erractic TV critic with no demonstrable knowledge of how to run a football club. The appointment of a manager is just a side show. Whoever is appointed their primary difficulty will not be in dealing with players and tactics but managing the owners who so far have shown no sign of being willing to seek and accept good advice. The club's difficulties will, unfortunately, continue beyond the appointment of the next manager. tiojo

11:32am Thu 11 Oct 12

ewood1952 says...

Just get someone in who will sort this mess out. So we can show, That Kean fellow how a team should play, win, and defend. Simples.
Just get someone in who will sort this mess out. So we can show, That Kean fellow how a team should play, win, and defend. Simples. ewood1952

11:34am Thu 11 Oct 12

ronnie clayton says...

HENDRY BEING INTERVIEWED ON TALKSPORT THIS MORNING,

Alan Brazil to Hendry --"Colin who do you think is best person to be manager at Rovers now ?"

Hendry replies --"The man in the job right now , he TICKS all the boxes , he is the best man".

Alan Brazil -- The last 3 results have not been very good.

Hendry replies -- Me and Eric did everything we possibly could to get a result against WOLVES but it did not work.

So they did everything they could ,Black and Hendry to get a result against Wolves but it did not work , sounds to me that is basically the same thing as saying you cannot do the JOB.
Also the words Hendry used this morning "Black ticks all the boxes" are exactly the same words he used when talking about Steve Kean just before he got his job as defensive coach at Rovers he said about Kean "Steven ticks all the boxes and the majority of Rovers fans are fully supportive of him" then lo and behold A FEW WEEKS LATER HENDRY GETS APPOINTED AS DEFENSIVE COACH .

I SUPPOSE HENDRY WITH HIS BACKGROUND WOULD SAY "THE TEA LADY TICKS ALL THE RIGHT BOXES TO BE MANAGER AT ROVERS" IF IT MEANT HIM KEEPING HIS JOB.
HENDRY BEING INTERVIEWED ON TALKSPORT THIS MORNING, Alan Brazil to Hendry --"Colin who do you think is best person to be manager at Rovers now ?" Hendry replies --"The man in the job right now , he TICKS all the boxes , he is the best man". Alan Brazil -- The last 3 results have not been very good. Hendry replies -- Me and Eric did everything we possibly could to get a result against WOLVES but it did not work. So they did everything they could ,Black and Hendry to get a result against Wolves but it did not work , sounds to me that is basically the same thing as saying you cannot do the JOB. Also the words Hendry used this morning "Black ticks all the boxes" are exactly the same words he used when talking about Steve Kean just before he got his job as defensive coach at Rovers he said about Kean "Steven ticks all the boxes and the majority of Rovers fans are fully supportive of him" then lo and behold A FEW WEEKS LATER HENDRY GETS APPOINTED AS DEFENSIVE COACH . I SUPPOSE HENDRY WITH HIS BACKGROUND WOULD SAY "THE TEA LADY TICKS ALL THE RIGHT BOXES TO BE MANAGER AT ROVERS" IF IT MEANT HIM KEEPING HIS JOB. ronnie clayton

11:46am Thu 11 Oct 12

Marconi says...

Andy says the first queation any manager will ask " Will i be I be allowed to manage my way".
I believe any manager worth his salt, would tell THEM, that he would only COME on condition that he managed his way
Andy says the first queation any manager will ask " Will i be I be allowed to manage my way". I believe any manager worth his salt, would tell THEM, that he would only COME on condition that he managed his way Marconi

11:52am Thu 11 Oct 12

1riversider says...

Shebby Singh should not be allowed to pick his nose, let alone be anywhere near this pivotal decision! As for Shaw, his track record at Preston fills me with yet another feeling of doom. Don't even get me started on Venky's!

This total shower in charge of OUR club have got EVERYTHING wrong from day one. Does anyone have any faith in them getting this decision right?

Anyone care to bet that the next manager will be the cheap option, and/or a client of a certain agent?

I fear for OUR club - we seem to be on a downward spiral with no escape whilst these incompetents have anything to do with BRFC.

SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB
Shebby Singh should not be allowed to pick his nose, let alone be anywhere near this pivotal decision! As for Shaw, his track record at Preston fills me with yet another feeling of doom. Don't even get me started on Venky's! This total shower in charge of OUR club have got EVERYTHING wrong from day one. Does anyone have any faith in them getting this decision right? Anyone care to bet that the next manager will be the cheap option, and/or a client of a certain agent? I fear for OUR club - we seem to be on a downward spiral with no escape whilst these incompetents have anything to do with BRFC. SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB 1riversider

11:54am Thu 11 Oct 12

hotpot8200 says...

We were all lead to believe not too long ago that they had potential managers who they had spoke to and as soon as knob jockey was getting the sack he would take over .More and more **** they never had anybody as we can all see now otherwise they would be in place now and having two weeks to train and talk with the team ready for action next match.
We were all lead to believe not too long ago that they had potential managers who they had spoke to and as soon as knob jockey was getting the sack he would take over .More and more **** they never had anybody as we can all see now otherwise they would be in place now and having two weeks to train and talk with the team ready for action next match. hotpot8200

11:55am Thu 11 Oct 12

makaveli96 says...

The problem is the Venkys have gone unpunished for there errors.

A lack of discipline is why the world is like it is today.
The problem is the Venkys have gone unpunished for there errors. A lack of discipline is why the world is like it is today. makaveli96

11:56am Thu 11 Oct 12

makaveli96 says...

ronnie clayton wrote:
HENDRY BEING INTERVIEWED ON TALKSPORT THIS MORNING, Alan Brazil to Hendry --"Colin who do you think is best person to be manager at Rovers now ?" Hendry replies --"The man in the job right now , he TICKS all the boxes , he is the best man". Alan Brazil -- The last 3 results have not been very good. Hendry replies -- Me and Eric did everything we possibly could to get a result against WOLVES but it did not work. So they did everything they could ,Black and Hendry to get a result against Wolves but it did not work , sounds to me that is basically the same thing as saying you cannot do the JOB. Also the words Hendry used this morning "Black ticks all the boxes" are exactly the same words he used when talking about Steve Kean just before he got his job as defensive coach at Rovers he said about Kean "Steven ticks all the boxes and the majority of Rovers fans are fully supportive of him" then lo and behold A FEW WEEKS LATER HENDRY GETS APPOINTED AS DEFENSIVE COACH . I SUPPOSE HENDRY WITH HIS BACKGROUND WOULD SAY "THE TEA LADY TICKS ALL THE RIGHT BOXES TO BE MANAGER AT ROVERS" IF IT MEANT HIM KEEPING HIS JOB.
Hendry napped Frankel for next weeks Champions stakes!
[quote][p][bold]ronnie clayton[/bold] wrote: HENDRY BEING INTERVIEWED ON TALKSPORT THIS MORNING, Alan Brazil to Hendry --"Colin who do you think is best person to be manager at Rovers now ?" Hendry replies --"The man in the job right now , he TICKS all the boxes , he is the best man". Alan Brazil -- The last 3 results have not been very good. Hendry replies -- Me and Eric did everything we possibly could to get a result against WOLVES but it did not work. So they did everything they could ,Black and Hendry to get a result against Wolves but it did not work , sounds to me that is basically the same thing as saying you cannot do the JOB. Also the words Hendry used this morning "Black ticks all the boxes" are exactly the same words he used when talking about Steve Kean just before he got his job as defensive coach at Rovers he said about Kean "Steven ticks all the boxes and the majority of Rovers fans are fully supportive of him" then lo and behold A FEW WEEKS LATER HENDRY GETS APPOINTED AS DEFENSIVE COACH . I SUPPOSE HENDRY WITH HIS BACKGROUND WOULD SAY "THE TEA LADY TICKS ALL THE RIGHT BOXES TO BE MANAGER AT ROVERS" IF IT MEANT HIM KEEPING HIS JOB.[/p][/quote]Hendry napped Frankel for next weeks Champions stakes! makaveli96

12:01pm Thu 11 Oct 12

dallydally says...

Your heading is a statement of the obvious. Most of us aren't holding our breath!
Your heading is a statement of the obvious. Most of us aren't holding our breath! dallydally

12:03pm Thu 11 Oct 12

makaveli96 says...

1riversider wrote:
Shebby Singh should not be allowed to pick his nose, let alone be anywhere near this pivotal decision! As for Shaw, his track record at Preston fills me with yet another feeling of doom. Don't even get me started on Venky's! This total shower in charge of OUR club have got EVERYTHING wrong from day one. Does anyone have any faith in them getting this decision right? Anyone care to bet that the next manager will be the cheap option, and/or a client of a certain agent? I fear for OUR club - we seem to be on a downward spiral with no escape whilst these incompetents have anything to do with BRFC. SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB
What Agent?

Dare you to name him.....tig your on!!
[quote][p][bold]1riversider[/bold] wrote: Shebby Singh should not be allowed to pick his nose, let alone be anywhere near this pivotal decision! As for Shaw, his track record at Preston fills me with yet another feeling of doom. Don't even get me started on Venky's! This total shower in charge of OUR club have got EVERYTHING wrong from day one. Does anyone have any faith in them getting this decision right? Anyone care to bet that the next manager will be the cheap option, and/or a client of a certain agent? I fear for OUR club - we seem to be on a downward spiral with no escape whilst these incompetents have anything to do with BRFC. SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB[/p][/quote]What Agent? Dare you to name him.....tig your on!! makaveli96

12:05pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Marconi says...

makaveli96 wrote:
The problem is the Venkys have gone unpunished for there errors.

A lack of discipline is why the world is like it is today.
I would not say they have gone unpunished, when they have gone from the premier league to the championship.
[quote][p][bold]makaveli96[/bold] wrote: The problem is the Venkys have gone unpunished for there errors. A lack of discipline is why the world is like it is today.[/p][/quote]I would not say they have gone unpunished, when they have gone from the premier league to the championship. Marconi

12:07pm Thu 11 Oct 12

noirbrook says...

tiojo wrote:
The advice that the Venky's are listening to comes from their own appointee Shebby Singh. He is nothing more than a loquacious, erractic TV critic with no demonstrable knowledge of how to run a football club. The appointment of a manager is just a side show. Whoever is appointed their primary difficulty will not be in dealing with players and tactics but managing the owners who so far have shown no sign of being willing to seek and accept good advice. The club's difficulties will, unfortunately, continue beyond the appointment of the next manager.
Thruought the speculation about what might happen these comments sum it up perfectly.
[quote][p][bold]tiojo[/bold] wrote: The advice that the Venky's are listening to comes from their own appointee Shebby Singh. He is nothing more than a loquacious, erractic TV critic with no demonstrable knowledge of how to run a football club. The appointment of a manager is just a side show. Whoever is appointed their primary difficulty will not be in dealing with players and tactics but managing the owners who so far have shown no sign of being willing to seek and accept good advice. The club's difficulties will, unfortunately, continue beyond the appointment of the next manager.[/p][/quote]Thruought the speculation about what might happen these comments sum it up perfectly. noirbrook

12:10pm Thu 11 Oct 12

bburnrover says...

The applicants are only interested in the money Shearer has never said he wants the job he only said he would talk to the club because its a lovely club.

The best applicants are the hungry for success younger guys with a track record like Hill.Hollowar,Ole Gunnar etc etc its a waste of time looking at Keane Souness and McCarthy as they are not hungry manager's and are jaded in my opinion.I am sure Glen Hoddle is the right guy as he has been away and has an appetite to get back into football management again.
The applicants are only interested in the money Shearer has never said he wants the job he only said he would talk to the club because its a lovely club. The best applicants are the hungry for success younger guys with a track record like Hill.Hollowar,Ole Gunnar etc etc its a waste of time looking at Keane Souness and McCarthy as they are not hungry manager's and are jaded in my opinion.I am sure Glen Hoddle is the right guy as he has been away and has an appetite to get back into football management again. bburnrover

12:13pm Thu 11 Oct 12

A Darener says...

Glen Hoddle is the right guy as he has been away and has an appetite to get back into football management again.
Unfortunately he won't be in football management, he would be in a circus. Along wih all the other clowns.
Glen Hoddle is the right guy as he has been away and has an appetite to get back into football management again. Unfortunately he won't be in football management, he would be in a circus. Along wih all the other clowns. A Darener

12:18pm Thu 11 Oct 12

1riversider says...

makaveli96 wrote:
1riversider wrote:
Shebby Singh should not be allowed to pick his nose, let alone be anywhere near this pivotal decision! As for Shaw, his track record at Preston fills me with yet another feeling of doom. Don't even get me started on Venky's! This total shower in charge of OUR club have got EVERYTHING wrong from day one. Does anyone have any faith in them getting this decision right? Anyone care to bet that the next manager will be the cheap option, and/or a client of a certain agent? I fear for OUR club - we seem to be on a downward spiral with no escape whilst these incompetents have anything to do with BRFC. SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB
What Agent?

Dare you to name him.....tig your on!!
His initials might just be JA
[quote][p][bold]makaveli96[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1riversider[/bold] wrote: Shebby Singh should not be allowed to pick his nose, let alone be anywhere near this pivotal decision! As for Shaw, his track record at Preston fills me with yet another feeling of doom. Don't even get me started on Venky's! This total shower in charge of OUR club have got EVERYTHING wrong from day one. Does anyone have any faith in them getting this decision right? Anyone care to bet that the next manager will be the cheap option, and/or a client of a certain agent? I fear for OUR club - we seem to be on a downward spiral with no escape whilst these incompetents have anything to do with BRFC. SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB[/p][/quote]What Agent? Dare you to name him.....tig your on!![/p][/quote]His initials might just be JA 1riversider

12:39pm Thu 11 Oct 12

thetop5 says...

1riversider wrote:
Shebby Singh should not be allowed to pick his nose, let alone be anywhere near this pivotal decision! As for Shaw, his track record at Preston fills me with yet another feeling of doom. Don't even get me started on Venky's!

This total shower in charge of OUR club have got EVERYTHING wrong from day one. Does anyone have any faith in them getting this decision right?

Anyone care to bet that the next manager will be the cheap option, and/or a client of a certain agent?

I fear for OUR club - we seem to be on a downward spiral with no escape whilst these incompetents have anything to do with BRFC.

SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB
I am not yet concerned about Shebby. As far as I can see all he has done so far is contrived to have Kean removed, for which he deserves a medal, and wound up a few of the midfield who thought they had a job for life.

The test will be which manager he appoints, and most fans cannot even agree on that - Shearer, yes or no?
[quote][p][bold]1riversider[/bold] wrote: Shebby Singh should not be allowed to pick his nose, let alone be anywhere near this pivotal decision! As for Shaw, his track record at Preston fills me with yet another feeling of doom. Don't even get me started on Venky's! This total shower in charge of OUR club have got EVERYTHING wrong from day one. Does anyone have any faith in them getting this decision right? Anyone care to bet that the next manager will be the cheap option, and/or a client of a certain agent? I fear for OUR club - we seem to be on a downward spiral with no escape whilst these incompetents have anything to do with BRFC. SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB[/p][/quote]I am not yet concerned about Shebby. As far as I can see all he has done so far is contrived to have Kean removed, for which he deserves a medal, and wound up a few of the midfield who thought they had a job for life. The test will be which manager he appoints, and most fans cannot even agree on that - Shearer, yes or no? thetop5

12:45pm Thu 11 Oct 12

ronnie clayton says...

1riversider wrote:
makaveli96 wrote:
1riversider wrote:
Shebby Singh should not be allowed to pick his nose, let alone be anywhere near this pivotal decision! As for Shaw, his track record at Preston fills me with yet another feeling of doom. Don't even get me started on Venky's! This total shower in charge of OUR club have got EVERYTHING wrong from day one. Does anyone have any faith in them getting this decision right? Anyone care to bet that the next manager will be the cheap option, and/or a client of a certain agent? I fear for OUR club - we seem to be on a downward spiral with no escape whilst these incompetents have anything to do with BRFC. SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB
What Agent?

Dare you to name him.....tig your on!!
His initials might just be JA
Well we all know J.A. IS THE AGENT FOR KEAN /BLACK/HENDRY COYLE

Maybe the question is what candidates is he NOT the agent for ?
[quote][p][bold]1riversider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]makaveli96[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1riversider[/bold] wrote: Shebby Singh should not be allowed to pick his nose, let alone be anywhere near this pivotal decision! As for Shaw, his track record at Preston fills me with yet another feeling of doom. Don't even get me started on Venky's! This total shower in charge of OUR club have got EVERYTHING wrong from day one. Does anyone have any faith in them getting this decision right? Anyone care to bet that the next manager will be the cheap option, and/or a client of a certain agent? I fear for OUR club - we seem to be on a downward spiral with no escape whilst these incompetents have anything to do with BRFC. SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB[/p][/quote]What Agent? Dare you to name him.....tig your on!![/p][/quote]His initials might just be JA[/p][/quote]Well we all know J.A. IS THE AGENT FOR KEAN /BLACK/HENDRY COYLE Maybe the question is what candidates is he NOT the agent for ? ronnie clayton

12:46pm Thu 11 Oct 12

J.C - Rishton says...

Listen to Shaw and Agnew ???????

Come on Andy - are you taking the pi$$ ???

Derek Shaw who has overseen one of PNEs worst collapses EVER in its proud history and (even worse) Paul "I'm a life-long Rovers fan" Agnew - who was complicit in the criminal conspricy from the outset (he can sue me if I'm wrong but HE was involved with SK and JA in a meeting in India 3 months BEFORE Venkys bought the club) to have Venkys buy the club AND front for "other owners" AND complicit in the move to sack SA and replace him with SK (complicit BEFORE the actual take-over had been completed).

Christ on a bike - if we're relying on Shebby Singh, Shaw and Paul "worst Rovers fan in our 137 year history" Agnew then we are DEFINATELY screwed, good and proper.

Venkys please put the club up for sale NOW - yes it might take a few years to sell but the club simply cannot survive much longer under your disasterous tennure.
Listen to Shaw and Agnew ??????? Come on Andy - are you taking the pi$$ ??? Derek Shaw who has overseen one of PNEs worst collapses EVER in its proud history and (even worse) Paul "I'm a life-long Rovers fan" Agnew - who was complicit in the criminal conspricy from the outset (he can sue me if I'm wrong but HE was involved with SK and JA in a meeting in India 3 months BEFORE Venkys bought the club) to have Venkys buy the club AND front for "other owners" AND complicit in the move to sack SA and replace him with SK (complicit BEFORE the actual take-over had been completed). Christ on a bike - if we're relying on Shebby Singh, Shaw and Paul "worst Rovers fan in our 137 year history" Agnew then we are DEFINATELY screwed, good and proper. Venkys please put the club up for sale NOW - yes it might take a few years to sell but the club simply cannot survive much longer under your disasterous tennure. J.C - Rishton

12:47pm Thu 11 Oct 12

greenscreener says...

Hey Andy,

When was the last time you got a comment from ROBERT COAR, as a Director of the Club, I'm sure we would all like to hear his opinion ?
Hey Andy, When was the last time you got a comment from ROBERT COAR, as a Director of the Club, I'm sure we would all like to hear his opinion ? greenscreener

12:58pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Wild Rover says...

A Darener wrote:
Well that has put the cat amongst the pigeons.....Howe at Burnley being touted for the Bournemouth job. No TOP manager is going to come to the Rovers whlst there is a chance of taking over at Burnley.
You would do well in the Highland Games, the caber I think. Based on your comments here you are well on your way to being a Champion Tosser
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Well that has put the cat amongst the pigeons.....Howe at Burnley being touted for the Bournemouth job. No TOP manager is going to come to the Rovers whlst there is a chance of taking over at Burnley.[/p][/quote]You would do well in the Highland Games, the caber I think. Based on your comments here you are well on your way to being a Champion Tosser Wild Rover

1:01pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Wild Rover says...

J.C - Rishton wrote:
Listen to Shaw and Agnew ???????

Come on Andy - are you taking the pi$$ ???

Derek Shaw who has overseen one of PNEs worst collapses EVER in its proud history and (even worse) Paul "I'm a life-long Rovers fan" Agnew - who was complicit in the criminal conspricy from the outset (he can sue me if I'm wrong but HE was involved with SK and JA in a meeting in India 3 months BEFORE Venkys bought the club) to have Venkys buy the club AND front for "other owners" AND complicit in the move to sack SA and replace him with SK (complicit BEFORE the actual take-over had been completed).

Christ on a bike - if we're relying on Shebby Singh, Shaw and Paul "worst Rovers fan in our 137 year history" Agnew then we are DEFINATELY screwed, good and proper.

Venkys please put the club up for sale NOW - yes it might take a few years to sell but the club simply cannot survive much longer under your disasterous tennure.
Proof?
[quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: Listen to Shaw and Agnew ??????? Come on Andy - are you taking the pi$$ ??? Derek Shaw who has overseen one of PNEs worst collapses EVER in its proud history and (even worse) Paul "I'm a life-long Rovers fan" Agnew - who was complicit in the criminal conspricy from the outset (he can sue me if I'm wrong but HE was involved with SK and JA in a meeting in India 3 months BEFORE Venkys bought the club) to have Venkys buy the club AND front for "other owners" AND complicit in the move to sack SA and replace him with SK (complicit BEFORE the actual take-over had been completed). Christ on a bike - if we're relying on Shebby Singh, Shaw and Paul "worst Rovers fan in our 137 year history" Agnew then we are DEFINATELY screwed, good and proper. Venkys please put the club up for sale NOW - yes it might take a few years to sell but the club simply cannot survive much longer under your disasterous tennure.[/p][/quote]Proof? Wild Rover

1:15pm Thu 11 Oct 12

J.C - Rishton says...

Wild Rover wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
Listen to Shaw and Agnew ???????

Come on Andy - are you taking the pi$$ ???

Derek Shaw who has overseen one of PNEs worst collapses EVER in its proud history and (even worse) Paul "I'm a life-long Rovers fan" Agnew - who was complicit in the criminal conspricy from the outset (he can sue me if I'm wrong but HE was involved with SK and JA in a meeting in India 3 months BEFORE Venkys bought the club) to have Venkys buy the club AND front for "other owners" AND complicit in the move to sack SA and replace him with SK (complicit BEFORE the actual take-over had been completed).

Christ on a bike - if we're relying on Shebby Singh, Shaw and Paul "worst Rovers fan in our 137 year history" Agnew then we are DEFINATELY screwed, good and proper.

Venkys please put the club up for sale NOW - yes it might take a few years to sell but the club simply cannot survive much longer under your disasterous tennure.
Proof?
Well if you actually attended BRAG meetings - like I would recomend to any Rovers fans who actually wanted to know what was going on within their own club - then you would know that BRAG have documented proof that both SK and PA attended a meeting with "Venky advisor" (haha) JA approx 3 months before the actual purchase.

Infact, the meeting is well documented so it would be interesting if Andy Cryer actually asked Paul Agnew WHY both he (who was simply "BRFC press officer" and Steve Kean (3rd coach to the 1st team) at that time, WHY they flew to India with JA (who did have a reason for attending the meeting as he was THE nominated "advisor" to Venkys) - but WHY were Kean and Agnew as in India for the meeting ????
[quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: Listen to Shaw and Agnew ??????? Come on Andy - are you taking the pi$$ ??? Derek Shaw who has overseen one of PNEs worst collapses EVER in its proud history and (even worse) Paul "I'm a life-long Rovers fan" Agnew - who was complicit in the criminal conspricy from the outset (he can sue me if I'm wrong but HE was involved with SK and JA in a meeting in India 3 months BEFORE Venkys bought the club) to have Venkys buy the club AND front for "other owners" AND complicit in the move to sack SA and replace him with SK (complicit BEFORE the actual take-over had been completed). Christ on a bike - if we're relying on Shebby Singh, Shaw and Paul "worst Rovers fan in our 137 year history" Agnew then we are DEFINATELY screwed, good and proper. Venkys please put the club up for sale NOW - yes it might take a few years to sell but the club simply cannot survive much longer under your disasterous tennure.[/p][/quote]Proof?[/p][/quote]Well if you actually attended BRAG meetings - like I would recomend to any Rovers fans who actually wanted to know what was going on within their own club - then you would know that BRAG have documented proof that both SK and PA attended a meeting with "Venky advisor" (haha) JA approx 3 months before the actual purchase. Infact, the meeting is well documented so it would be interesting if Andy Cryer actually asked Paul Agnew WHY both he (who was simply "BRFC press officer" and Steve Kean (3rd coach to the 1st team) at that time, WHY they flew to India with JA (who did have a reason for attending the meeting as he was THE nominated "advisor" to Venkys) - but WHY were Kean and Agnew as in India for the meeting ???? J.C - Rishton

1:46pm Thu 11 Oct 12

bluerob says...

2 Weeks and still drawing up a short list, what an absolute shambles.

Shebby, please contact John Williams, apologise and pay him what ever it takes to get him back. Then let him appoint a new manager and run the club the way a football club should be run.
2 Weeks and still drawing up a short list, what an absolute shambles. Shebby, please contact John Williams, apologise and pay him what ever it takes to get him back. Then let him appoint a new manager and run the club the way a football club should be run. bluerob

2:06pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Harwoodstblue says...

J.C - Rishton wrote:
Wild Rover wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
Listen to Shaw and Agnew ???????

Come on Andy - are you taking the pi$$ ???

Derek Shaw who has overseen one of PNEs worst collapses EVER in its proud history and (even worse) Paul "I'm a life-long Rovers fan" Agnew - who was complicit in the criminal conspricy from the outset (he can sue me if I'm wrong but HE was involved with SK and JA in a meeting in India 3 months BEFORE Venkys bought the club) to have Venkys buy the club AND front for "other owners" AND complicit in the move to sack SA and replace him with SK (complicit BEFORE the actual take-over had been completed).

Christ on a bike - if we're relying on Shebby Singh, Shaw and Paul "worst Rovers fan in our 137 year history" Agnew then we are DEFINATELY screwed, good and proper.

Venkys please put the club up for sale NOW - yes it might take a few years to sell but the club simply cannot survive much longer under your disasterous tennure.
Proof?
Well if you actually attended BRAG meetings - like I would recomend to any Rovers fans who actually wanted to know what was going on within their own club - then you would know that BRAG have documented proof that both SK and PA attended a meeting with "Venky advisor" (haha) JA approx 3 months before the actual purchase.

Infact, the meeting is well documented so it would be interesting if Andy Cryer actually asked Paul Agnew WHY both he (who was simply "BRFC press officer" and Steve Kean (3rd coach to the 1st team) at that time, WHY they flew to India with JA (who did have a reason for attending the meeting as he was THE nominated "advisor" to Venkys) - but WHY were Kean and Agnew as in India for the meeting ????
Isn't it strange that the third in line team coach was at the meeting, but the manager ( Allardyce ) wasn't, and probably knew nothing about it.
[quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: Listen to Shaw and Agnew ??????? Come on Andy - are you taking the pi$$ ??? Derek Shaw who has overseen one of PNEs worst collapses EVER in its proud history and (even worse) Paul "I'm a life-long Rovers fan" Agnew - who was complicit in the criminal conspricy from the outset (he can sue me if I'm wrong but HE was involved with SK and JA in a meeting in India 3 months BEFORE Venkys bought the club) to have Venkys buy the club AND front for "other owners" AND complicit in the move to sack SA and replace him with SK (complicit BEFORE the actual take-over had been completed). Christ on a bike - if we're relying on Shebby Singh, Shaw and Paul "worst Rovers fan in our 137 year history" Agnew then we are DEFINATELY screwed, good and proper. Venkys please put the club up for sale NOW - yes it might take a few years to sell but the club simply cannot survive much longer under your disasterous tennure.[/p][/quote]Proof?[/p][/quote]Well if you actually attended BRAG meetings - like I would recomend to any Rovers fans who actually wanted to know what was going on within their own club - then you would know that BRAG have documented proof that both SK and PA attended a meeting with "Venky advisor" (haha) JA approx 3 months before the actual purchase. Infact, the meeting is well documented so it would be interesting if Andy Cryer actually asked Paul Agnew WHY both he (who was simply "BRFC press officer" and Steve Kean (3rd coach to the 1st team) at that time, WHY they flew to India with JA (who did have a reason for attending the meeting as he was THE nominated "advisor" to Venkys) - but WHY were Kean and Agnew as in India for the meeting ????[/p][/quote]Isn't it strange that the third in line team coach was at the meeting, but the manager ( Allardyce ) wasn't, and probably knew nothing about it. Harwoodstblue

2:15pm Thu 11 Oct 12

A Darener says...

Wild Rover wrote:
A Darener wrote:
Well that has put the cat amongst the pigeons.....Howe at Burnley being touted for the Bournemouth job. No TOP manager is going to come to the Rovers whlst there is a chance of taking over at Burnley.
You would do well in the Highland Games, the caber I think. Based on your comments here you are well on your way to being a Champion Tosser
Have you had a lobotomy? Or are you just genuinely THICK!!
[quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Well that has put the cat amongst the pigeons.....Howe at Burnley being touted for the Bournemouth job. No TOP manager is going to come to the Rovers whlst there is a chance of taking over at Burnley.[/p][/quote]You would do well in the Highland Games, the caber I think. Based on your comments here you are well on your way to being a Champion Tosser[/p][/quote]Have you had a lobotomy? Or are you just genuinely THICK!! A Darener

2:25pm Thu 11 Oct 12

RGB31405 says...

A couple of weeks?
Just how obscure is their search?
The qualifies candidates are obvious.
Groan...
A couple of weeks? Just how obscure is their search? The qualifies candidates are obvious. Groan... RGB31405

2:32pm Thu 11 Oct 12

J.C - Rishton says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
Wild Rover wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
Listen to Shaw and Agnew ???????

Come on Andy - are you taking the pi$$ ???

Derek Shaw who has overseen one of PNEs worst collapses EVER in its proud history and (even worse) Paul "I'm a life-long Rovers fan" Agnew - who was complicit in the criminal conspricy from the outset (he can sue me if I'm wrong but HE was involved with SK and JA in a meeting in India 3 months BEFORE Venkys bought the club) to have Venkys buy the club AND front for "other owners" AND complicit in the move to sack SA and replace him with SK (complicit BEFORE the actual take-over had been completed).

Christ on a bike - if we're relying on Shebby Singh, Shaw and Paul "worst Rovers fan in our 137 year history" Agnew then we are DEFINATELY screwed, good and proper.

Venkys please put the club up for sale NOW - yes it might take a few years to sell but the club simply cannot survive much longer under your disasterous tennure.
Proof?
Well if you actually attended BRAG meetings - like I would recomend to any Rovers fans who actually wanted to know what was going on within their own club - then you would know that BRAG have documented proof that both SK and PA attended a meeting with "Venky advisor" (haha) JA approx 3 months before the actual purchase.

Infact, the meeting is well documented so it would be interesting if Andy Cryer actually asked Paul Agnew WHY both he (who was simply "BRFC press officer" and Steve Kean (3rd coach to the 1st team) at that time, WHY they flew to India with JA (who did have a reason for attending the meeting as he was THE nominated "advisor" to Venkys) - but WHY were Kean and Agnew as in India for the meeting ????
Isn't it strange that the third in line team coach was at the meeting, but the manager ( Allardyce ) wasn't, and probably knew nothing about it.
Well I'm sure it was just a conicidence - just like it was COINCIDENCE that a man at that original meeting in India (Steve Kean) then became Rovers manager.

And I'm sure it was just a COINCIDENCE that that man (Steve Kean) had Jerome Anderson (a man also at that meeting in India) as his agent.

I'm sure it was also just a COINCIDENCE that the 3 assistant managers, who all served under SK were all Jerome Anderson clients (Jensen, Clement and Black).

I also think its just COINCIDENCE that (at least) 4 if not all 6 of the Portugese signings this summer were made through a Portugese agent with links to Jerome Andersons Portugese office - although, personally, I think thats just a COINCIDENCE !

And its funny - the more you delve into things that have happened at BRFC over the last 2 years the more you keep triping over this one word - COINCIDENCE - how very bizarre !!

Still, I'm sure thats just COINCIDENTAL.
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: Listen to Shaw and Agnew ??????? Come on Andy - are you taking the pi$$ ??? Derek Shaw who has overseen one of PNEs worst collapses EVER in its proud history and (even worse) Paul "I'm a life-long Rovers fan" Agnew - who was complicit in the criminal conspricy from the outset (he can sue me if I'm wrong but HE was involved with SK and JA in a meeting in India 3 months BEFORE Venkys bought the club) to have Venkys buy the club AND front for "other owners" AND complicit in the move to sack SA and replace him with SK (complicit BEFORE the actual take-over had been completed). Christ on a bike - if we're relying on Shebby Singh, Shaw and Paul "worst Rovers fan in our 137 year history" Agnew then we are DEFINATELY screwed, good and proper. Venkys please put the club up for sale NOW - yes it might take a few years to sell but the club simply cannot survive much longer under your disasterous tennure.[/p][/quote]Proof?[/p][/quote]Well if you actually attended BRAG meetings - like I would recomend to any Rovers fans who actually wanted to know what was going on within their own club - then you would know that BRAG have documented proof that both SK and PA attended a meeting with "Venky advisor" (haha) JA approx 3 months before the actual purchase. Infact, the meeting is well documented so it would be interesting if Andy Cryer actually asked Paul Agnew WHY both he (who was simply "BRFC press officer" and Steve Kean (3rd coach to the 1st team) at that time, WHY they flew to India with JA (who did have a reason for attending the meeting as he was THE nominated "advisor" to Venkys) - but WHY were Kean and Agnew as in India for the meeting ????[/p][/quote]Isn't it strange that the third in line team coach was at the meeting, but the manager ( Allardyce ) wasn't, and probably knew nothing about it.[/p][/quote]Well I'm sure it was just a conicidence - just like it was COINCIDENCE that a man at that original meeting in India (Steve Kean) then became Rovers manager. And I'm sure it was just a COINCIDENCE that that man (Steve Kean) had Jerome Anderson (a man also at that meeting in India) as his agent. I'm sure it was also just a COINCIDENCE that the 3 assistant managers, who all served under SK were all Jerome Anderson clients (Jensen, Clement and Black). I also think its just COINCIDENCE that (at least) 4 if not all 6 of the Portugese signings this summer were made through a Portugese agent with links to Jerome Andersons Portugese office - although, personally, I think thats just a COINCIDENCE ! And its funny - the more you delve into things that have happened at BRFC over the last 2 years the more you keep triping over this one word - COINCIDENCE - how very bizarre !! Still, I'm sure thats just COINCIDENTAL. J.C - Rishton

2:38pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Rovers1975 says...

ronnie clayton wrote:
HENDRY BEING INTERVIEWED ON TALKSPORT THIS MORNING,

Alan Brazil to Hendry --"Colin who do you think is best person to be manager at Rovers now ?"

Hendry replies --"The man in the job right now , he TICKS all the boxes , he is the best man".

Alan Brazil -- The last 3 results have not been very good.

Hendry replies -- Me and Eric did everything we possibly could to get a result against WOLVES but it did not work.

So they did everything they could ,Black and Hendry to get a result against Wolves but it did not work , sounds to me that is basically the same thing as saying you cannot do the JOB.
Also the words Hendry used this morning "Black ticks all the boxes" are exactly the same words he used when talking about Steve Kean just before he got his job as defensive coach at Rovers he said about Kean "Steven ticks all the boxes and the majority of Rovers fans are fully supportive of him" then lo and behold A FEW WEEKS LATER HENDRY GETS APPOINTED AS DEFENSIVE COACH .

I SUPPOSE HENDRY WITH HIS BACKGROUND WOULD SAY "THE TEA LADY TICKS ALL THE RIGHT BOXES TO BE MANAGER AT ROVERS" IF IT MEANT HIM KEEPING HIS JOB.
Spot on. Hendry knows he's gone if Black doesn't get the job, which begs the question does Hendry actually care about who the best choice of manager would be at Rovers, or is he more concerned about his own pocket? I think we all know the answer to that. Black ticks none of the boxes. He might be a decent coach but that's where it ends. Rovers were an absolute shambles against Wolves and proved without doubt that neither Black or Hendry are worthy of being manager and coach.

Hoddle was chatting with Brazil aswell this morning and he would be without doubt a top draw manager at Rovers. I won't hold my breath. Times ticking by and I dread to think what those sh1t bags have up their sleeves.
[quote][p][bold]ronnie clayton[/bold] wrote: HENDRY BEING INTERVIEWED ON TALKSPORT THIS MORNING, Alan Brazil to Hendry --"Colin who do you think is best person to be manager at Rovers now ?" Hendry replies --"The man in the job right now , he TICKS all the boxes , he is the best man". Alan Brazil -- The last 3 results have not been very good. Hendry replies -- Me and Eric did everything we possibly could to get a result against WOLVES but it did not work. So they did everything they could ,Black and Hendry to get a result against Wolves but it did not work , sounds to me that is basically the same thing as saying you cannot do the JOB. Also the words Hendry used this morning "Black ticks all the boxes" are exactly the same words he used when talking about Steve Kean just before he got his job as defensive coach at Rovers he said about Kean "Steven ticks all the boxes and the majority of Rovers fans are fully supportive of him" then lo and behold A FEW WEEKS LATER HENDRY GETS APPOINTED AS DEFENSIVE COACH . I SUPPOSE HENDRY WITH HIS BACKGROUND WOULD SAY "THE TEA LADY TICKS ALL THE RIGHT BOXES TO BE MANAGER AT ROVERS" IF IT MEANT HIM KEEPING HIS JOB.[/p][/quote]Spot on. Hendry knows he's gone if Black doesn't get the job, which begs the question does Hendry actually care about who the best choice of manager would be at Rovers, or is he more concerned about his own pocket? I think we all know the answer to that. Black ticks none of the boxes. He might be a decent coach but that's where it ends. Rovers were an absolute shambles against Wolves and proved without doubt that neither Black or Hendry are worthy of being manager and coach. Hoddle was chatting with Brazil aswell this morning and he would be without doubt a top draw manager at Rovers. I won't hold my breath. Times ticking by and I dread to think what those sh1t bags have up their sleeves. Rovers1975

2:44pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Bryan Douglas supporter says...

thetop5 wrote:
1riversider wrote:
Shebby Singh should not be allowed to pick his nose, let alone be anywhere near this pivotal decision! As for Shaw, his track record at Preston fills me with yet another feeling of doom. Don't even get me started on Venky's!

This total shower in charge of OUR club have got EVERYTHING wrong from day one. Does anyone have any faith in them getting this decision right?

Anyone care to bet that the next manager will be the cheap option, and/or a client of a certain agent?

I fear for OUR club - we seem to be on a downward spiral with no escape whilst these incompetents have anything to do with BRFC.

SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB
I am not yet concerned about Shebby. As far as I can see all he has done so far is contrived to have Kean removed, for which he deserves a medal, and wound up a few of the midfield who thought they had a job for life.

The test will be which manager he appoints, and most fans cannot even agree on that - Shearer, yes or no?
Shebby is not appointing the Manger - the (absent) owners are. Fans can speculate but we do not have a say on anything at the Club. The only choice we have is whether to buy / use season tickets, pay money at the turnstile, in the shop, bars, food stalls, corporate hospitality, etc. You can vote with your feet and your wallet but will Venky's take any notice?; Mrs. D. never comes to games and the rest leave ten minutes before the end or even at half-time.

My money is on the Indian 'Coach' getting the job with Shebby being promoted to Director of Football - Mrs. D. keeping it in the family, so to speak. Shebby will do what he is told, along with Shaw and the invisible man, Agnew.

PS: It's Thursday; have they drawn up their short-list yet?
[quote][p][bold]thetop5[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1riversider[/bold] wrote: Shebby Singh should not be allowed to pick his nose, let alone be anywhere near this pivotal decision! As for Shaw, his track record at Preston fills me with yet another feeling of doom. Don't even get me started on Venky's! This total shower in charge of OUR club have got EVERYTHING wrong from day one. Does anyone have any faith in them getting this decision right? Anyone care to bet that the next manager will be the cheap option, and/or a client of a certain agent? I fear for OUR club - we seem to be on a downward spiral with no escape whilst these incompetents have anything to do with BRFC. SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB[/p][/quote]I am not yet concerned about Shebby. As far as I can see all he has done so far is contrived to have Kean removed, for which he deserves a medal, and wound up a few of the midfield who thought they had a job for life. The test will be which manager he appoints, and most fans cannot even agree on that - Shearer, yes or no?[/p][/quote]Shebby is not appointing the Manger - the (absent) owners are. Fans can speculate but we do not have a say on anything at the Club. The only choice we have is whether to buy / use season tickets, pay money at the turnstile, in the shop, bars, food stalls, corporate hospitality, etc. You can vote with your feet and your wallet but will Venky's take any notice?; Mrs. D. never comes to games and the rest leave ten minutes before the end or even at half-time. My money is on the Indian 'Coach' getting the job with Shebby being promoted to Director of Football - Mrs. D. keeping it in the family, so to speak. Shebby will do what he is told, along with Shaw and the invisible man, Agnew. PS: It's Thursday; have they drawn up their short-list yet? Bryan Douglas supporter

2:55pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Harwoodstblue says...

J.C - Rishton wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
Wild Rover wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
Listen to Shaw and Agnew ???????

Come on Andy - are you taking the pi$$ ???

Derek Shaw who has overseen one of PNEs worst collapses EVER in its proud history and (even worse) Paul "I'm a life-long Rovers fan" Agnew - who was complicit in the criminal conspricy from the outset (he can sue me if I'm wrong but HE was involved with SK and JA in a meeting in India 3 months BEFORE Venkys bought the club) to have Venkys buy the club AND front for "other owners" AND complicit in the move to sack SA and replace him with SK (complicit BEFORE the actual take-over had been completed).

Christ on a bike - if we're relying on Shebby Singh, Shaw and Paul "worst Rovers fan in our 137 year history" Agnew then we are DEFINATELY screwed, good and proper.

Venkys please put the club up for sale NOW - yes it might take a few years to sell but the club simply cannot survive much longer under your disasterous tennure.
Proof?
Well if you actually attended BRAG meetings - like I would recomend to any Rovers fans who actually wanted to know what was going on within their own club - then you would know that BRAG have documented proof that both SK and PA attended a meeting with "Venky advisor" (haha) JA approx 3 months before the actual purchase.

Infact, the meeting is well documented so it would be interesting if Andy Cryer actually asked Paul Agnew WHY both he (who was simply "BRFC press officer" and Steve Kean (3rd coach to the 1st team) at that time, WHY they flew to India with JA (who did have a reason for attending the meeting as he was THE nominated "advisor" to Venkys) - but WHY were Kean and Agnew as in India for the meeting ????
Isn't it strange that the third in line team coach was at the meeting, but the manager ( Allardyce ) wasn't, and probably knew nothing about it.
Well I'm sure it was just a conicidence - just like it was COINCIDENCE that a man at that original meeting in India (Steve Kean) then became Rovers manager.

And I'm sure it was just a COINCIDENCE that that man (Steve Kean) had Jerome Anderson (a man also at that meeting in India) as his agent.

I'm sure it was also just a COINCIDENCE that the 3 assistant managers, who all served under SK were all Jerome Anderson clients (Jensen, Clement and Black).

I also think its just COINCIDENCE that (at least) 4 if not all 6 of the Portugese signings this summer were made through a Portugese agent with links to Jerome Andersons Portugese office - although, personally, I think thats just a COINCIDENCE !

And its funny - the more you delve into things that have happened at BRFC over the last 2 years the more you keep triping over this one word - COINCIDENCE - how very bizarre !!

Still, I'm sure thats just COINCIDENTAL.
Can't wait for the results of BRAG findings to to be investigated fully and brought out in the open, but can't understand why it's taking so long.
I fully believe something dodgy has been going on this last two years, hence the silence of Venkeys' ( still ongoing ) and the ' disappearance' of Anderson.
[quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: Listen to Shaw and Agnew ??????? Come on Andy - are you taking the pi$$ ??? Derek Shaw who has overseen one of PNEs worst collapses EVER in its proud history and (even worse) Paul "I'm a life-long Rovers fan" Agnew - who was complicit in the criminal conspricy from the outset (he can sue me if I'm wrong but HE was involved with SK and JA in a meeting in India 3 months BEFORE Venkys bought the club) to have Venkys buy the club AND front for "other owners" AND complicit in the move to sack SA and replace him with SK (complicit BEFORE the actual take-over had been completed). Christ on a bike - if we're relying on Shebby Singh, Shaw and Paul "worst Rovers fan in our 137 year history" Agnew then we are DEFINATELY screwed, good and proper. Venkys please put the club up for sale NOW - yes it might take a few years to sell but the club simply cannot survive much longer under your disasterous tennure.[/p][/quote]Proof?[/p][/quote]Well if you actually attended BRAG meetings - like I would recomend to any Rovers fans who actually wanted to know what was going on within their own club - then you would know that BRAG have documented proof that both SK and PA attended a meeting with "Venky advisor" (haha) JA approx 3 months before the actual purchase. Infact, the meeting is well documented so it would be interesting if Andy Cryer actually asked Paul Agnew WHY both he (who was simply "BRFC press officer" and Steve Kean (3rd coach to the 1st team) at that time, WHY they flew to India with JA (who did have a reason for attending the meeting as he was THE nominated "advisor" to Venkys) - but WHY were Kean and Agnew as in India for the meeting ????[/p][/quote]Isn't it strange that the third in line team coach was at the meeting, but the manager ( Allardyce ) wasn't, and probably knew nothing about it.[/p][/quote]Well I'm sure it was just a conicidence - just like it was COINCIDENCE that a man at that original meeting in India (Steve Kean) then became Rovers manager. And I'm sure it was just a COINCIDENCE that that man (Steve Kean) had Jerome Anderson (a man also at that meeting in India) as his agent. I'm sure it was also just a COINCIDENCE that the 3 assistant managers, who all served under SK were all Jerome Anderson clients (Jensen, Clement and Black). I also think its just COINCIDENCE that (at least) 4 if not all 6 of the Portugese signings this summer were made through a Portugese agent with links to Jerome Andersons Portugese office - although, personally, I think thats just a COINCIDENCE ! And its funny - the more you delve into things that have happened at BRFC over the last 2 years the more you keep triping over this one word - COINCIDENCE - how very bizarre !! Still, I'm sure thats just COINCIDENTAL.[/p][/quote]Can't wait for the results of BRAG findings to to be investigated fully and brought out in the open, but can't understand why it's taking so long. I fully believe something dodgy has been going on this last two years, hence the silence of Venkeys' ( still ongoing ) and the ' disappearance' of Anderson. Harwoodstblue

2:56pm Thu 11 Oct 12

edmy says...

Throughout this period, The relegation of our side, the consequence of Kean resigning, the temporary appointment of Black the Jack, the ensuing appointment of a new manager, we have yet to hear anything from our inept owners,The Venkys A statement like we are sorry we got it so wrong, sorry we made mistakes. We only hear snippets and excuse through the voice of a over-hyped Indian football critic / ex amateur footballer. who in my opinion knows even less than Kean about the English football game. I think that about sums up the whole pathetic circus that now envelops BRFC. Don't get this appointment right you clowns and BRFC will come tumbling down, big style. Look around you, heed some of the advice and opinions of people with knowledge of our game. By the way well spoken Tony Parkes.
Throughout this period, The relegation of our side, the consequence of Kean resigning, the temporary appointment of Black the Jack, the ensuing appointment of a new manager, we have yet to hear anything from our inept owners,The Venkys A statement like we are sorry we got it so wrong, sorry we made mistakes. We only hear snippets and excuse through the voice of a over-hyped Indian football critic / ex amateur footballer. who in my opinion knows even less than Kean about the English football game. I think that about sums up the whole pathetic circus that now envelops BRFC. Don't get this appointment right you clowns and BRFC will come tumbling down, big style. Look around you, heed some of the advice and opinions of people with knowledge of our game. By the way well spoken Tony Parkes. edmy

3:04pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Harwoodstblue says...

A Darener wrote:
Wild Rover wrote:
A Darener wrote:
Well that has put the cat amongst the pigeons.....Howe at Burnley being touted for the Bournemouth job. No TOP manager is going to come to the Rovers whlst there is a chance of taking over at Burnley.
You would do well in the Highland Games, the caber I think. Based on your comments here you are well on your way to being a Champion Tosser
Have you had a lobotomy? Or are you just genuinely THICK!!
Wild Rover never seems to have anything to say on football related matters. Only ever comes on here to have a go at fellow supporters, who dare to question the shambles and mis-managment that has happened at Ewood Park this last two years. Why ? Over to you Wild Rover.
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Well that has put the cat amongst the pigeons.....Howe at Burnley being touted for the Bournemouth job. No TOP manager is going to come to the Rovers whlst there is a chance of taking over at Burnley.[/p][/quote]You would do well in the Highland Games, the caber I think. Based on your comments here you are well on your way to being a Champion Tosser[/p][/quote]Have you had a lobotomy? Or are you just genuinely THICK!![/p][/quote]Wild Rover never seems to have anything to say on football related matters. Only ever comes on here to have a go at fellow supporters, who dare to question the shambles and mis-managment that has happened at Ewood Park this last two years. Why ? Over to you Wild Rover. Harwoodstblue

3:22pm Thu 11 Oct 12

ronnie clayton says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
A Darener wrote:
Wild Rover wrote:
A Darener wrote:
Well that has put the cat amongst the pigeons.....Howe at Burnley being touted for the Bournemouth job. No TOP manager is going to come to the Rovers whlst there is a chance of taking over at Burnley.
You would do well in the Highland Games, the caber I think. Based on your comments here you are well on your way to being a Champion Tosser
Have you had a lobotomy? Or are you just genuinely THICK!!
Wild Rover never seems to have anything to say on football related matters. Only ever comes on here to have a go at fellow supporters, who dare to question the shambles and mis-managment that has happened at Ewood Park this last two years. Why ? Over to you Wild Rover.
WE NEED TO GET A HUGE MASSIVE BROOM AND SWEEP THEM ALL AWAY , J.A AND ALL HIS CLIENTS .
WHY SHOULD J.A. GET A CHUNK OF THE WAGES THAT GET PAID TO BLACK /HENDRY AND PROBABLY ALL THE PLAYERS FROM THE SOUTHERN LAND THAT IS FAMOUS FOR SARDINES , A NEW BROOM SWEEPS CLEAN.
A COMPLETE AUDIT ON WHO AT ROVERS IS THERE BECAUSE OF J.A.
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Well that has put the cat amongst the pigeons.....Howe at Burnley being touted for the Bournemouth job. No TOP manager is going to come to the Rovers whlst there is a chance of taking over at Burnley.[/p][/quote]You would do well in the Highland Games, the caber I think. Based on your comments here you are well on your way to being a Champion Tosser[/p][/quote]Have you had a lobotomy? Or are you just genuinely THICK!![/p][/quote]Wild Rover never seems to have anything to say on football related matters. Only ever comes on here to have a go at fellow supporters, who dare to question the shambles and mis-managment that has happened at Ewood Park this last two years. Why ? Over to you Wild Rover.[/p][/quote]WE NEED TO GET A HUGE MASSIVE BROOM AND SWEEP THEM ALL AWAY , J.A AND ALL HIS CLIENTS . WHY SHOULD J.A. GET A CHUNK OF THE WAGES THAT GET PAID TO BLACK /HENDRY AND PROBABLY ALL THE PLAYERS FROM THE SOUTHERN LAND THAT IS FAMOUS FOR SARDINES , A NEW BROOM SWEEPS CLEAN. A COMPLETE AUDIT ON WHO AT ROVERS IS THERE BECAUSE OF J.A. ronnie clayton

3:22pm Thu 11 Oct 12

ronnie clayton says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
A Darener wrote:
Wild Rover wrote:
A Darener wrote:
Well that has put the cat amongst the pigeons.....Howe at Burnley being touted for the Bournemouth job. No TOP manager is going to come to the Rovers whlst there is a chance of taking over at Burnley.
You would do well in the Highland Games, the caber I think. Based on your comments here you are well on your way to being a Champion Tosser
Have you had a lobotomy? Or are you just genuinely THICK!!
Wild Rover never seems to have anything to say on football related matters. Only ever comes on here to have a go at fellow supporters, who dare to question the shambles and mis-managment that has happened at Ewood Park this last two years. Why ? Over to you Wild Rover.
WE NEED TO GET A HUGE MASSIVE BROOM AND SWEEP THEM ALL AWAY , J.A AND ALL HIS CLIENTS .
WHY SHOULD J.A. GET A CHUNK OF THE WAGES THAT GET PAID TO BLACK /HENDRY AND PROBABLY ALL THE PLAYERS FROM THE SOUTHERN LAND THAT IS FAMOUS FOR SARDINES , A NEW BROOM SWEEPS CLEAN.
A COMPLETE AUDIT ON WHO AT ROVERS IS THERE BECAUSE OF J.A.
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Well that has put the cat amongst the pigeons.....Howe at Burnley being touted for the Bournemouth job. No TOP manager is going to come to the Rovers whlst there is a chance of taking over at Burnley.[/p][/quote]You would do well in the Highland Games, the caber I think. Based on your comments here you are well on your way to being a Champion Tosser[/p][/quote]Have you had a lobotomy? Or are you just genuinely THICK!![/p][/quote]Wild Rover never seems to have anything to say on football related matters. Only ever comes on here to have a go at fellow supporters, who dare to question the shambles and mis-managment that has happened at Ewood Park this last two years. Why ? Over to you Wild Rover.[/p][/quote]WE NEED TO GET A HUGE MASSIVE BROOM AND SWEEP THEM ALL AWAY , J.A AND ALL HIS CLIENTS . WHY SHOULD J.A. GET A CHUNK OF THE WAGES THAT GET PAID TO BLACK /HENDRY AND PROBABLY ALL THE PLAYERS FROM THE SOUTHERN LAND THAT IS FAMOUS FOR SARDINES , A NEW BROOM SWEEPS CLEAN. A COMPLETE AUDIT ON WHO AT ROVERS IS THERE BECAUSE OF J.A. ronnie clayton

3:22pm Thu 11 Oct 12

makaveli96 says...

Marconi wrote:
makaveli96 wrote: The problem is the Venkys have gone unpunished for there errors. A lack of discipline is why the world is like it is today.
I would not say they have gone unpunished, when they have gone from the premier league to the championship.
You really dont understand my point do you?
[quote][p][bold]Marconi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]makaveli96[/bold] wrote: The problem is the Venkys have gone unpunished for there errors. A lack of discipline is why the world is like it is today.[/p][/quote]I would not say they have gone unpunished, when they have gone from the premier league to the championship.[/p][/quote]You really dont understand my point do you? makaveli96

3:28pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Harwoodstblue says...

ronnie clayton wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
A Darener wrote:
Wild Rover wrote:
A Darener wrote:
Well that has put the cat amongst the pigeons.....Howe at Burnley being touted for the Bournemouth job. No TOP manager is going to come to the Rovers whlst there is a chance of taking over at Burnley.
You would do well in the Highland Games, the caber I think. Based on your comments here you are well on your way to being a Champion Tosser
Have you had a lobotomy? Or are you just genuinely THICK!!
Wild Rover never seems to have anything to say on football related matters. Only ever comes on here to have a go at fellow supporters, who dare to question the shambles and mis-managment that has happened at Ewood Park this last two years. Why ? Over to you Wild Rover.
WE NEED TO GET A HUGE MASSIVE BROOM AND SWEEP THEM ALL AWAY , J.A AND ALL HIS CLIENTS .
WHY SHOULD J.A. GET A CHUNK OF THE WAGES THAT GET PAID TO BLACK /HENDRY AND PROBABLY ALL THE PLAYERS FROM THE SOUTHERN LAND THAT IS FAMOUS FOR SARDINES , A NEW BROOM SWEEPS CLEAN.
A COMPLETE AUDIT ON WHO AT ROVERS IS THERE BECAUSE OF J.A.
Last I heard, the accounts had not been submitted despite being three months late.......Again, the question needs to be answered,,,,,, WHY.
[quote][p][bold]ronnie clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Well that has put the cat amongst the pigeons.....Howe at Burnley being touted for the Bournemouth job. No TOP manager is going to come to the Rovers whlst there is a chance of taking over at Burnley.[/p][/quote]You would do well in the Highland Games, the caber I think. Based on your comments here you are well on your way to being a Champion Tosser[/p][/quote]Have you had a lobotomy? Or are you just genuinely THICK!![/p][/quote]Wild Rover never seems to have anything to say on football related matters. Only ever comes on here to have a go at fellow supporters, who dare to question the shambles and mis-managment that has happened at Ewood Park this last two years. Why ? Over to you Wild Rover.[/p][/quote]WE NEED TO GET A HUGE MASSIVE BROOM AND SWEEP THEM ALL AWAY , J.A AND ALL HIS CLIENTS . WHY SHOULD J.A. GET A CHUNK OF THE WAGES THAT GET PAID TO BLACK /HENDRY AND PROBABLY ALL THE PLAYERS FROM THE SOUTHERN LAND THAT IS FAMOUS FOR SARDINES , A NEW BROOM SWEEPS CLEAN. A COMPLETE AUDIT ON WHO AT ROVERS IS THERE BECAUSE OF J.A.[/p][/quote]Last I heard, the accounts had not been submitted despite being three months late.......Again, the question needs to be answered,,,,,, WHY. Harwoodstblue

3:28pm Thu 11 Oct 12

BJS says...

You should all remember that Venky's own the club and are ultimately responsible for everything that has taken place over the last 2 years. Unless they have a complete change of attitude and decide to run the club in order that the club prospers and not themselves we are doomed to more of the same. I fear the worst but hope i'm wide of the mark!
You should all remember that Venky's own the club and are ultimately responsible for everything that has taken place over the last 2 years. Unless they have a complete change of attitude and decide to run the club in order that the club prospers and not themselves we are doomed to more of the same. I fear the worst but hope i'm wide of the mark! BJS

3:30pm Thu 11 Oct 12

J.C - Rishton says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
Wild Rover wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
Listen to Shaw and Agnew ???????

Come on Andy - are you taking the pi$$ ???

Derek Shaw who has overseen one of PNEs worst collapses EVER in its proud history and (even worse) Paul "I'm a life-long Rovers fan" Agnew - who was complicit in the criminal conspricy from the outset (he can sue me if I'm wrong but HE was involved with SK and JA in a meeting in India 3 months BEFORE Venkys bought the club) to have Venkys buy the club AND front for "other owners" AND complicit in the move to sack SA and replace him with SK (complicit BEFORE the actual take-over had been completed).

Christ on a bike - if we're relying on Shebby Singh, Shaw and Paul "worst Rovers fan in our 137 year history" Agnew then we are DEFINATELY screwed, good and proper.

Venkys please put the club up for sale NOW - yes it might take a few years to sell but the club simply cannot survive much longer under your disasterous tennure.
Proof?
Well if you actually attended BRAG meetings - like I would recomend to any Rovers fans who actually wanted to know what was going on within their own club - then you would know that BRAG have documented proof that both SK and PA attended a meeting with "Venky advisor" (haha) JA approx 3 months before the actual purchase.

Infact, the meeting is well documented so it would be interesting if Andy Cryer actually asked Paul Agnew WHY both he (who was simply "BRFC press officer" and Steve Kean (3rd coach to the 1st team) at that time, WHY they flew to India with JA (who did have a reason for attending the meeting as he was THE nominated "advisor" to Venkys) - but WHY were Kean and Agnew as in India for the meeting ????
Isn't it strange that the third in line team coach was at the meeting, but the manager ( Allardyce ) wasn't, and probably knew nothing about it.
Well I'm sure it was just a conicidence - just like it was COINCIDENCE that a man at that original meeting in India (Steve Kean) then became Rovers manager.

And I'm sure it was just a COINCIDENCE that that man (Steve Kean) had Jerome Anderson (a man also at that meeting in India) as his agent.

I'm sure it was also just a COINCIDENCE that the 3 assistant managers, who all served under SK were all Jerome Anderson clients (Jensen, Clement and Black).

I also think its just COINCIDENCE that (at least) 4 if not all 6 of the Portugese signings this summer were made through a Portugese agent with links to Jerome Andersons Portugese office - although, personally, I think thats just a COINCIDENCE !

And its funny - the more you delve into things that have happened at BRFC over the last 2 years the more you keep triping over this one word - COINCIDENCE - how very bizarre !!

Still, I'm sure thats just COINCIDENTAL.
Can't wait for the results of BRAG findings to to be investigated fully and brought out in the open, but can't understand why it's taking so long.
I fully believe something dodgy has been going on this last two years, hence the silence of Venkeys' ( still ongoing ) and the ' disappearance' of Anderson.
Well they are complex investigations and I have heard from 2 different people involved in "the dossier" and subsequent meetings that once they start following a lead, then 2 or 3 other things crop up which need looking into and so on and so forth so its a very complex and time-consuming thing.

However, that said BRAG did finish each meeting (PL, FA and sports minister) with the words "We are happy to give you time to investigate whats in this document and we know it will take some time but we will NOT accept a cover up. If you don't expose these people in time then we will, by making the file available to the general media".

I will also say that the Sports minister has also acted upon the document and that the govt (and I can't stand tories) won't allow any corruption in sport to be swept under the carpet.

That said - I know BRAG have acted (and still act) in a proper manner, allowing the authorities time to investigate but time is running out and I personally feel if nothing has progressed by the end of this year then BRAG should consider exposing their evidance in January through the English media.
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: Listen to Shaw and Agnew ??????? Come on Andy - are you taking the pi$$ ??? Derek Shaw who has overseen one of PNEs worst collapses EVER in its proud history and (even worse) Paul "I'm a life-long Rovers fan" Agnew - who was complicit in the criminal conspricy from the outset (he can sue me if I'm wrong but HE was involved with SK and JA in a meeting in India 3 months BEFORE Venkys bought the club) to have Venkys buy the club AND front for "other owners" AND complicit in the move to sack SA and replace him with SK (complicit BEFORE the actual take-over had been completed). Christ on a bike - if we're relying on Shebby Singh, Shaw and Paul "worst Rovers fan in our 137 year history" Agnew then we are DEFINATELY screwed, good and proper. Venkys please put the club up for sale NOW - yes it might take a few years to sell but the club simply cannot survive much longer under your disasterous tennure.[/p][/quote]Proof?[/p][/quote]Well if you actually attended BRAG meetings - like I would recomend to any Rovers fans who actually wanted to know what was going on within their own club - then you would know that BRAG have documented proof that both SK and PA attended a meeting with "Venky advisor" (haha) JA approx 3 months before the actual purchase. Infact, the meeting is well documented so it would be interesting if Andy Cryer actually asked Paul Agnew WHY both he (who was simply "BRFC press officer" and Steve Kean (3rd coach to the 1st team) at that time, WHY they flew to India with JA (who did have a reason for attending the meeting as he was THE nominated "advisor" to Venkys) - but WHY were Kean and Agnew as in India for the meeting ????[/p][/quote]Isn't it strange that the third in line team coach was at the meeting, but the manager ( Allardyce ) wasn't, and probably knew nothing about it.[/p][/quote]Well I'm sure it was just a conicidence - just like it was COINCIDENCE that a man at that original meeting in India (Steve Kean) then became Rovers manager. And I'm sure it was just a COINCIDENCE that that man (Steve Kean) had Jerome Anderson (a man also at that meeting in India) as his agent. I'm sure it was also just a COINCIDENCE that the 3 assistant managers, who all served under SK were all Jerome Anderson clients (Jensen, Clement and Black). I also think its just COINCIDENCE that (at least) 4 if not all 6 of the Portugese signings this summer were made through a Portugese agent with links to Jerome Andersons Portugese office - although, personally, I think thats just a COINCIDENCE ! And its funny - the more you delve into things that have happened at BRFC over the last 2 years the more you keep triping over this one word - COINCIDENCE - how very bizarre !! Still, I'm sure thats just COINCIDENTAL.[/p][/quote]Can't wait for the results of BRAG findings to to be investigated fully and brought out in the open, but can't understand why it's taking so long. I fully believe something dodgy has been going on this last two years, hence the silence of Venkeys' ( still ongoing ) and the ' disappearance' of Anderson.[/p][/quote]Well they are complex investigations and I have heard from 2 different people involved in "the dossier" and subsequent meetings that once they start following a lead, then 2 or 3 other things crop up which need looking into and so on and so forth so its a very complex and time-consuming thing. However, that said BRAG did finish each meeting (PL, FA and sports minister) with the words "We are happy to give you time to investigate whats in this document and we know it will take some time but we will NOT accept a cover up. If you don't expose these people in time then we will, by making the file available to the general media". I will also say that the Sports minister has also acted upon the document and that the govt (and I can't stand tories) won't allow any corruption in sport to be swept under the carpet. That said - I know BRAG have acted (and still act) in a proper manner, allowing the authorities time to investigate but time is running out and I personally feel if nothing has progressed by the end of this year then BRAG should consider exposing their evidance in January through the English media. J.C - Rishton

3:43pm Thu 11 Oct 12

madrover says...

how refreshing to see all the positive comments. boring boring bring play another tune instead of this negative crap
how refreshing to see all the positive comments. boring boring bring play another tune instead of this negative crap madrover

3:44pm Thu 11 Oct 12

noddymcleod says...

Owen Coyle ? JA client. Knows how to get a team up and down. Hated in Burnley. Desperate for job. Would not have to move house. Scot. Ticks all the boxes, as Big Col would say.
Owen Coyle ? JA client. Knows how to get a team up and down. Hated in Burnley. Desperate for job. Would not have to move house. Scot. Ticks all the boxes, as Big Col would say. noddymcleod

3:52pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Harwoodstblue says...

madrover wrote:
how refreshing to see all the positive comments. boring boring bring play another tune instead of this negative crap
If you can find anything positive to say about the unjustified and unnecessary decline of Rovers during the last two years, I'd be delighted to here it.
[quote][p][bold]madrover[/bold] wrote: how refreshing to see all the positive comments. boring boring bring play another tune instead of this negative crap[/p][/quote]If you can find anything positive to say about the unjustified and unnecessary decline of Rovers during the last two years, I'd be delighted to here it. Harwoodstblue

3:53pm Thu 11 Oct 12

A Darener says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
madrover wrote:
how refreshing to see all the positive comments. boring boring bring play another tune instead of this negative crap
If you can find anything positive to say about the unjustified and unnecessary decline of Rovers during the last two years, I'd be delighted to here it.
At least we are not Burnley FC.
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]madrover[/bold] wrote: how refreshing to see all the positive comments. boring boring bring play another tune instead of this negative crap[/p][/quote]If you can find anything positive to say about the unjustified and unnecessary decline of Rovers during the last two years, I'd be delighted to here it.[/p][/quote]At least we are not Burnley FC. A Darener

4:04pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Harwoodstblue says...

A Darener wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
madrover wrote:
how refreshing to see all the positive comments. boring boring bring play another tune instead of this negative crap
If you can find anything positive to say about the unjustified and unnecessary decline of Rovers during the last two years, I'd be delighted to here it.
At least we are not Burnley FC.
We can be thankful for small mercies ;-)
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]madrover[/bold] wrote: how refreshing to see all the positive comments. boring boring bring play another tune instead of this negative crap[/p][/quote]If you can find anything positive to say about the unjustified and unnecessary decline of Rovers during the last two years, I'd be delighted to here it.[/p][/quote]At least we are not Burnley FC.[/p][/quote]We can be thankful for small mercies ;-) Harwoodstblue

4:19pm Thu 11 Oct 12

ronnie clayton says...

noddymcleod wrote:
Owen Coyle ? JA client. Knows how to get a team up and down. Hated in Burnley. Desperate for job. Would not have to move house. Scot. Ticks all the boxes, as Big Col would say.
So Hendry says that BLACK TICKS ALL THE BOXES.

HAS BLACK ANY PREVIOUS SUCCESS AS A MANAGER --- NO TICK
HAS BLACK GOT A TEAM PROMOTION --- NO TICK
HAS BLACK DID WELL AT ROVERS SINCE BEING MANAG.---NO TICK
IS BLACK GOOD WITH THE MEDIA /FANS --- NO TICK
HAS BLACK GOT A DECENT ASSISTANT --- NO TICK.

HENDRY says that Black ticks all the boxes , would someone ask HENDRY ,What actual boxes is it that BLACK TICKS ?.
I THINK THE ONLY BOX THAT BLACK WOULD TICK , WOULD BE THE BOX ASKING , WILL HENDRY STILL HAVE A JOB IF BLACK IS MADE MANAGER .-------------------
--------------------
Owen Coyle ticks more boxes that they two , Coyle a non drinker .a honest man /not a natural liar ,for some it seems to come easy, Coyle who at least left his previous club with some dignity ,not like the Colin Hendry`s drinking pal and best mate , Steve Kean who after getting us relegated he is now in the process of suing Rovers.
[quote][p][bold]noddymcleod[/bold] wrote: Owen Coyle ? JA client. Knows how to get a team up and down. Hated in Burnley. Desperate for job. Would not have to move house. Scot. Ticks all the boxes, as Big Col would say.[/p][/quote]So Hendry says that BLACK TICKS ALL THE BOXES. HAS BLACK ANY PREVIOUS SUCCESS AS A MANAGER --- NO TICK HAS BLACK GOT A TEAM PROMOTION --- NO TICK HAS BLACK DID WELL AT ROVERS SINCE BEING MANAG.---NO TICK IS BLACK GOOD WITH THE MEDIA /FANS --- NO TICK HAS BLACK GOT A DECENT ASSISTANT --- NO TICK. HENDRY says that Black ticks all the boxes , would someone ask HENDRY ,What actual boxes is it that BLACK TICKS ?. I THINK THE ONLY BOX THAT BLACK WOULD TICK , WOULD BE THE BOX ASKING , WILL HENDRY STILL HAVE A JOB IF BLACK IS MADE MANAGER .------------------- -------------------- Owen Coyle ticks more boxes that they two , Coyle a non drinker .a honest man /not a natural liar ,for some it seems to come easy, Coyle who at least left his previous club with some dignity ,not like the Colin Hendry`s drinking pal and best mate , Steve Kean who after getting us relegated he is now in the process of suing Rovers. ronnie clayton

4:29pm Thu 11 Oct 12

A Darener says...

Hendry rules himself out. Well at least that's one less to worry about!
Hendry rules himself out. Well at least that's one less to worry about! A Darener

4:34pm Thu 11 Oct 12

givet82 says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
madrover wrote:
how refreshing to see all the positive comments. boring boring bring play another tune instead of this negative crap
If you can find anything positive to say about the unjustified and unnecessary decline of Rovers during the last two years, I'd be delighted to here it.
REALLY harwoodstblue! Kean has gone, don't tell me that ain't positive. Or are we just trying to find excuses now. Rovers is a shambles but the most hated of men has gone!
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]madrover[/bold] wrote: how refreshing to see all the positive comments. boring boring bring play another tune instead of this negative crap[/p][/quote]If you can find anything positive to say about the unjustified and unnecessary decline of Rovers during the last two years, I'd be delighted to here it.[/p][/quote]REALLY harwoodstblue! Kean has gone, don't tell me that ain't positive. Or are we just trying to find excuses now. Rovers is a shambles but the most hated of men has gone! givet82

4:36pm Thu 11 Oct 12

ElseFred says...

Has anyone else heard the strong rumour that Ruud Gullit is very interested in the Rovers job ?
Has anyone else heard the strong rumour that Ruud Gullit is very interested in the Rovers job ? ElseFred

4:36pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Rovers 1495 says...

Well, Thursday's nearly over, so when's the announcement, will he be in for the Derby game ?
Well, Thursday's nearly over, so when's the announcement, will he be in for the Derby game ? Rovers 1495

4:38pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Harwoodstblue says...

givet82 wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
madrover wrote:
how refreshing to see all the positive comments. boring boring bring play another tune instead of this negative crap
If you can find anything positive to say about the unjustified and unnecessary decline of Rovers during the last two years, I'd be delighted to here it.
REALLY harwoodstblue! Kean has gone, don't tell me that ain't positive. Or are we just trying to find excuses now. Rovers is a shambles but the most hated of men has gone!
Excuses about what ?
[quote][p][bold]givet82[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]madrover[/bold] wrote: how refreshing to see all the positive comments. boring boring bring play another tune instead of this negative crap[/p][/quote]If you can find anything positive to say about the unjustified and unnecessary decline of Rovers during the last two years, I'd be delighted to here it.[/p][/quote]REALLY harwoodstblue! Kean has gone, don't tell me that ain't positive. Or are we just trying to find excuses now. Rovers is a shambles but the most hated of men has gone![/p][/quote]Excuses about what ? Harwoodstblue

4:41pm Thu 11 Oct 12

givet82 says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
givet82 wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
madrover wrote:
how refreshing to see all the positive comments. boring boring bring play another tune instead of this negative crap
If you can find anything positive to say about the unjustified and unnecessary decline of Rovers during the last two years, I'd be delighted to here it.
REALLY harwoodstblue! Kean has gone, don't tell me that ain't positive. Or are we just trying to find excuses now. Rovers is a shambles but the most hated of men has gone!
Excuses about what ?
thought so drivel. kean going not positive then
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]givet82[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]madrover[/bold] wrote: how refreshing to see all the positive comments. boring boring bring play another tune instead of this negative crap[/p][/quote]If you can find anything positive to say about the unjustified and unnecessary decline of Rovers during the last two years, I'd be delighted to here it.[/p][/quote]REALLY harwoodstblue! Kean has gone, don't tell me that ain't positive. Or are we just trying to find excuses now. Rovers is a shambles but the most hated of men has gone![/p][/quote]Excuses about what ?[/p][/quote]thought so drivel. kean going not positive then givet82

4:43pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Harwoodstblue says...

givet82 wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
givet82 wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
madrover wrote:
how refreshing to see all the positive comments. boring boring bring play another tune instead of this negative crap
If you can find anything positive to say about the unjustified and unnecessary decline of Rovers during the last two years, I'd be delighted to here it.
REALLY harwoodstblue! Kean has gone, don't tell me that ain't positive. Or are we just trying to find excuses now. Rovers is a shambles but the most hated of men has gone!
Excuses about what ?
thought so drivel. kean going not positive then
Answer the question.
[quote][p][bold]givet82[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]givet82[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]madrover[/bold] wrote: how refreshing to see all the positive comments. boring boring bring play another tune instead of this negative crap[/p][/quote]If you can find anything positive to say about the unjustified and unnecessary decline of Rovers during the last two years, I'd be delighted to here it.[/p][/quote]REALLY harwoodstblue! Kean has gone, don't tell me that ain't positive. Or are we just trying to find excuses now. Rovers is a shambles but the most hated of men has gone![/p][/quote]Excuses about what ?[/p][/quote]thought so drivel. kean going not positive then[/p][/quote]Answer the question. Harwoodstblue

4:46pm Thu 11 Oct 12

givet82 says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
givet82 wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
givet82 wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
madrover wrote:
how refreshing to see all the positive comments. boring boring bring play another tune instead of this negative crap
If you can find anything positive to say about the unjustified and unnecessary decline of Rovers during the last two years, I'd be delighted to here it.
REALLY harwoodstblue! Kean has gone, don't tell me that ain't positive. Or are we just trying to find excuses now. Rovers is a shambles but the most hated of men has gone!
Excuses about what ?
thought so drivel. kean going not positive then
Answer the question.
I asked you the question first u retard!
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]givet82[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]givet82[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]madrover[/bold] wrote: how refreshing to see all the positive comments. boring boring bring play another tune instead of this negative crap[/p][/quote]If you can find anything positive to say about the unjustified and unnecessary decline of Rovers during the last two years, I'd be delighted to here it.[/p][/quote]REALLY harwoodstblue! Kean has gone, don't tell me that ain't positive. Or are we just trying to find excuses now. Rovers is a shambles but the most hated of men has gone![/p][/quote]Excuses about what ?[/p][/quote]thought so drivel. kean going not positive then[/p][/quote]Answer the question.[/p][/quote]I asked you the question first u retard! givet82

4:49pm Thu 11 Oct 12

ghost of sceptic says...

Bryan Douglas supporter wrote:
thetop5 wrote:
1riversider wrote: Shebby Singh should not be allowed to pick his nose, let alone be anywhere near this pivotal decision! As for Shaw, his track record at Preston fills me with yet another feeling of doom. Don't even get me started on Venky's! This total shower in charge of OUR club have got EVERYTHING wrong from day one. Does anyone have any faith in them getting this decision right? Anyone care to bet that the next manager will be the cheap option, and/or a client of a certain agent? I fear for OUR club - we seem to be on a downward spiral with no escape whilst these incompetents have anything to do with BRFC. SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB
I am not yet concerned about Shebby. As far as I can see all he has done so far is contrived to have Kean removed, for which he deserves a medal, and wound up a few of the midfield who thought they had a job for life. The test will be which manager he appoints, and most fans cannot even agree on that - Shearer, yes or no?
Shebby is not appointing the Manger - the (absent) owners are. Fans can speculate but we do not have a say on anything at the Club. The only choice we have is whether to buy / use season tickets, pay money at the turnstile, in the shop, bars, food stalls, corporate hospitality, etc. You can vote with your feet and your wallet but will Venky's take any notice?; Mrs. D. never comes to games and the rest leave ten minutes before the end or even at half-time. My money is on the Indian 'Coach' getting the job with Shebby being promoted to Director of Football - Mrs. D. keeping it in the family, so to speak. Shebby will do what he is told, along with Shaw and the invisible man, Agnew. PS: It's Thursday; have they drawn up their short-list yet?
Holloway will get the job watch this space.
[quote][p][bold]Bryan Douglas supporter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thetop5[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1riversider[/bold] wrote: Shebby Singh should not be allowed to pick his nose, let alone be anywhere near this pivotal decision! As for Shaw, his track record at Preston fills me with yet another feeling of doom. Don't even get me started on Venky's! This total shower in charge of OUR club have got EVERYTHING wrong from day one. Does anyone have any faith in them getting this decision right? Anyone care to bet that the next manager will be the cheap option, and/or a client of a certain agent? I fear for OUR club - we seem to be on a downward spiral with no escape whilst these incompetents have anything to do with BRFC. SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB[/p][/quote]I am not yet concerned about Shebby. As far as I can see all he has done so far is contrived to have Kean removed, for which he deserves a medal, and wound up a few of the midfield who thought they had a job for life. The test will be which manager he appoints, and most fans cannot even agree on that - Shearer, yes or no?[/p][/quote]Shebby is not appointing the Manger - the (absent) owners are. Fans can speculate but we do not have a say on anything at the Club. The only choice we have is whether to buy / use season tickets, pay money at the turnstile, in the shop, bars, food stalls, corporate hospitality, etc. You can vote with your feet and your wallet but will Venky's take any notice?; Mrs. D. never comes to games and the rest leave ten minutes before the end or even at half-time. My money is on the Indian 'Coach' getting the job with Shebby being promoted to Director of Football - Mrs. D. keeping it in the family, so to speak. Shebby will do what he is told, along with Shaw and the invisible man, Agnew. PS: It's Thursday; have they drawn up their short-list yet?[/p][/quote]Holloway will get the job watch this space. ghost of sceptic

4:49pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Harwoodstblue says...

givet82 wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
givet82 wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
givet82 wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
madrover wrote:
how refreshing to see all the positive comments. boring boring bring play another tune instead of this negative crap
If you can find anything positive to say about the unjustified and unnecessary decline of Rovers during the last two years, I'd be delighted to here it.
REALLY harwoodstblue! Kean has gone, don't tell me that ain't positive. Or are we just trying to find excuses now. Rovers is a shambles but the most hated of men has gone!
Excuses about what ?
thought so drivel. kean going not positive then
Answer the question.
I asked you the question first u retard!
What was the question you asked me ?.....there isn't a question in your post and you call ME a retard ?
[quote][p][bold]givet82[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]givet82[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]givet82[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]madrover[/bold] wrote: how refreshing to see all the positive comments. boring boring bring play another tune instead of this negative crap[/p][/quote]If you can find anything positive to say about the unjustified and unnecessary decline of Rovers during the last two years, I'd be delighted to here it.[/p][/quote]REALLY harwoodstblue! Kean has gone, don't tell me that ain't positive. Or are we just trying to find excuses now. Rovers is a shambles but the most hated of men has gone![/p][/quote]Excuses about what ?[/p][/quote]thought so drivel. kean going not positive then[/p][/quote]Answer the question.[/p][/quote]I asked you the question first u retard![/p][/quote]What was the question you asked me ?.....there isn't a question in your post and you call ME a retard ? Harwoodstblue

4:54pm Thu 11 Oct 12

greenscreener says...

ElseFred wrote:
Has anyone else heard the strong rumour that Ruud Gullit is very interested in the Rovers job ?
Yes, from you in other discussions !
[quote][p][bold]ElseFred[/bold] wrote: Has anyone else heard the strong rumour that Ruud Gullit is very interested in the Rovers job ?[/p][/quote]Yes, from you in other discussions ! greenscreener

4:58pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Harwoodstblue says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
givet82 wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
givet82 wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
madrover wrote:
how refreshing to see all the positive comments. boring boring bring play another tune instead of this negative crap
If you can find anything positive to say about the unjustified and unnecessary decline of Rovers during the last two years, I'd be delighted to here it.
REALLY harwoodstblue! Kean has gone, don't tell me that ain't positive. Or are we just trying to find excuses now. Rovers is a shambles but the most hated of men has gone!
Excuses about what ?
thought so drivel. kean going not positive then
Answer the question.
Givet82.............
.Get your facts right and you won't make yourself look a fool.
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]givet82[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]givet82[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]madrover[/bold] wrote: how refreshing to see all the positive comments. boring boring bring play another tune instead of this negative crap[/p][/quote]If you can find anything positive to say about the unjustified and unnecessary decline of Rovers during the last two years, I'd be delighted to here it.[/p][/quote]REALLY harwoodstblue! Kean has gone, don't tell me that ain't positive. Or are we just trying to find excuses now. Rovers is a shambles but the most hated of men has gone![/p][/quote]Excuses about what ?[/p][/quote]thought so drivel. kean going not positive then[/p][/quote]Answer the question.[/p][/quote]Givet82............. .Get your facts right and you won't make yourself look a fool. Harwoodstblue

5:20pm Thu 11 Oct 12

YarkshahRover says...

bburnrover wrote:
The applicants are only interested in the money Shearer has never said he wants the job he only said he would talk to the club because its a lovely club.

The best applicants are the hungry for success younger guys with a track record like Hill.Hollowar,Ole Gunnar etc etc its a waste of time looking at Keane Souness and McCarthy as they are not hungry manager's and are jaded in my opinion.I am sure Glen Hoddle is the right guy as he has been away and has an appetite to get back into football management again.
Glen Hoddle is their man. He's a virtual Hindu with his belief in reincarnation.
[quote][p][bold]bburnrover[/bold] wrote: The applicants are only interested in the money Shearer has never said he wants the job he only said he would talk to the club because its a lovely club. The best applicants are the hungry for success younger guys with a track record like Hill.Hollowar,Ole Gunnar etc etc its a waste of time looking at Keane Souness and McCarthy as they are not hungry manager's and are jaded in my opinion.I am sure Glen Hoddle is the right guy as he has been away and has an appetite to get back into football management again.[/p][/quote]Glen Hoddle is their man. He's a virtual Hindu with his belief in reincarnation. YarkshahRover

5:36pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Prophil says...

The remark made by Colin Hendry that Eric Black ticks all the boxes is unbeleivable - or at least it would be if it did not come out of the mouth of a Venky's stooge. Presumably Hendry is aware that if Black goes, he goes as well. At least, let's hope so.
The remark made by Colin Hendry that Eric Black ticks all the boxes is unbeleivable - or at least it would be if it did not come out of the mouth of a Venky's stooge. Presumably Hendry is aware that if Black goes, he goes as well. At least, let's hope so. Prophil

5:41pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Harwoodstblue says...

Prophil wrote:
The remark made by Colin Hendry that Eric Black ticks all the boxes is unbeleivable - or at least it would be if it did not come out of the mouth of a Venky's stooge. Presumably Hendry is aware that if Black goes, he goes as well. At least, let's hope so.
Don't remarks like Hendry's make these so called professionals look stupid when they come out with something like that.
[quote][p][bold]Prophil[/bold] wrote: The remark made by Colin Hendry that Eric Black ticks all the boxes is unbeleivable - or at least it would be if it did not come out of the mouth of a Venky's stooge. Presumably Hendry is aware that if Black goes, he goes as well. At least, let's hope so.[/p][/quote]Don't remarks like Hendry's make these so called professionals look stupid when they come out with something like that. Harwoodstblue

6:23pm Thu 11 Oct 12

madrover says...

harwoodblue you forget that the walker trust are the villains in all this . They s**t on all of us saying the future was bright under the new owners . In my view bigger liars than the venkys
harwoodblue you forget that the walker trust are the villains in all this . They s**t on all of us saying the future was bright under the new owners . In my view bigger liars than the venkys madrover

6:52pm Thu 11 Oct 12

kazz says...

THE BOOKIES THINK ITS TIM SHERWOOD. ALOT OF MONEY BEING PUT ON HIM THIS EVENING
THE BOOKIES THINK ITS TIM SHERWOOD. ALOT OF MONEY BEING PUT ON HIM THIS EVENING kazz

6:54pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Harwoodstblue says...

madrover wrote:
harwoodblue you forget that the walker trust are the villains in all this . They s**t on all of us saying the future was bright under the new owners . In my view bigger liars than the venkys
Agreed, Madrover. We were sold down the river without a paddle. Just hope they get a good manager in now and things begin to look brighter.
[quote][p][bold]madrover[/bold] wrote: harwoodblue you forget that the walker trust are the villains in all this . They s**t on all of us saying the future was bright under the new owners . In my view bigger liars than the venkys[/p][/quote]Agreed, Madrover. We were sold down the river without a paddle. Just hope they get a good manager in now and things begin to look brighter. Harwoodstblue

6:58pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Arthur Labore says...

Steve Kean for Burnley !!!!!
Steve Kean for Burnley !!!!! Arthur Labore

7:01pm Thu 11 Oct 12

ronnie clayton says...

kazz wrote:
THE BOOKIES THINK ITS TIM SHERWOOD. ALOT OF MONEY BEING PUT ON HIM THIS EVENING
Wonder where the money`s coming from to put a lot of money on him ?

Inside knowledge !
[quote][p][bold]kazz[/bold] wrote: THE BOOKIES THINK ITS TIM SHERWOOD. ALOT OF MONEY BEING PUT ON HIM THIS EVENING[/p][/quote]Wonder where the money`s coming from to put a lot of money on him ? Inside knowledge ! ronnie clayton

7:04pm Thu 11 Oct 12

gleechy says...

madrover wrote:
harwoodblue you forget that the walker trust are the villains in all this . They s**t on all of us saying the future was bright under the new owners . In my view bigger liars than the venkys
You are upside down. They got out sold up and are spending the money right now.

They have no hold on what the new owners do with a club that used to belong to them. They were told like everybody else that the new owners were very wealthy and wanted the best for the club, why should they not believe this?

You are just fogging the issue of how nasty these owners are. The real issue lies at the FA and Premier league who snuggled up to these liars and allowed them to be fit and proper in their eyes.

Even now after two years of suspicion they can't bring themselves to attend games, they couldn't give a hoot about the club, as long as their money is recovered, and it probably is.
[quote][p][bold]madrover[/bold] wrote: harwoodblue you forget that the walker trust are the villains in all this . They s**t on all of us saying the future was bright under the new owners . In my view bigger liars than the venkys[/p][/quote]You are upside down. They got out sold up and are spending the money right now. They have no hold on what the new owners do with a club that used to belong to them. They were told like everybody else that the new owners were very wealthy and wanted the best for the club, why should they not believe this? You are just fogging the issue of how nasty these owners are. The real issue lies at the FA and Premier league who snuggled up to these liars and allowed them to be fit and proper in their eyes. Even now after two years of suspicion they can't bring themselves to attend games, they couldn't give a hoot about the club, as long as their money is recovered, and it probably is. gleechy

7:07pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Harwoodstblue says...

ronnie clayton wrote:
kazz wrote:
THE BOOKIES THINK ITS TIM SHERWOOD. ALOT OF MONEY BEING PUT ON HIM THIS EVENING
Wonder where the money`s coming from to put a lot of money on him ?

Inside knowledge !
Can't see how a youth team development officer is going to be our savior, or perhaps others know more than I do ?
[quote][p][bold]ronnie clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kazz[/bold] wrote: THE BOOKIES THINK ITS TIM SHERWOOD. ALOT OF MONEY BEING PUT ON HIM THIS EVENING[/p][/quote]Wonder where the money`s coming from to put a lot of money on him ? Inside knowledge ![/p][/quote]Can't see how a youth team development officer is going to be our savior, or perhaps others know more than I do ? Harwoodstblue

7:52pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Come the Revolution says...

Venkys are now in a very enviable position. They can look at the Asian betting market for the new manager, find somebody at say 20/1, and put £5m on him,and then give him the job. They can pocket the money and sell the club off in about 6 months. Might be the best answer all round. If they choose a rank outsider as the new manager then there is every chance of the plan being put into action. They don't care two tosses about the fans,as they have previously demonstrated. IMHO.
Venkys are now in a very enviable position. They can look at the Asian betting market for the new manager, find somebody at say 20/1, and put £5m on him,and then give him the job. They can pocket the money and sell the club off in about 6 months. Might be the best answer all round. If they choose a rank outsider as the new manager then there is every chance of the plan being put into action. They don't care two tosses about the fans,as they have previously demonstrated. IMHO. Come the Revolution

8:03pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Fyrover says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
Wild Rover wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
Listen to Shaw and Agnew ???????

Come on Andy - are you taking the pi$$ ???

Derek Shaw who has overseen one of PNEs worst collapses EVER in its proud history and (even worse) Paul "I'm a life-long Rovers fan" Agnew - who was complicit in the criminal conspricy from the outset (he can sue me if I'm wrong but HE was involved with SK and JA in a meeting in India 3 months BEFORE Venkys bought the club) to have Venkys buy the club AND front for "other owners" AND complicit in the move to sack SA and replace him with SK (complicit BEFORE the actual take-over had been completed).

Christ on a bike - if we're relying on Shebby Singh, Shaw and Paul "worst Rovers fan in our 137 year history" Agnew then we are DEFINATELY screwed, good and proper.

Venkys please put the club up for sale NOW - yes it might take a few years to sell but the club simply cannot survive much longer under your disasterous tennure.
Proof?
Well if you actually attended BRAG meetings - like I would recomend to any Rovers fans who actually wanted to know what was going on within their own club - then you would know that BRAG have documented proof that both SK and PA attended a meeting with "Venky advisor" (haha) JA approx 3 months before the actual purchase.

Infact, the meeting is well documented so it would be interesting if Andy Cryer actually asked Paul Agnew WHY both he (who was simply "BRFC press officer" and Steve Kean (3rd coach to the 1st team) at that time, WHY they flew to India with JA (who did have a reason for attending the meeting as he was THE nominated "advisor" to Venkys) - but WHY were Kean and Agnew as in India for the meeting ????
Isn't it strange that the third in line team coach was at the meeting, but the manager ( Allardyce ) wasn't, and probably knew nothing about it.
Where is it documented that SK and PA were at a meeting in India before the takeover?
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: Listen to Shaw and Agnew ??????? Come on Andy - are you taking the pi$$ ??? Derek Shaw who has overseen one of PNEs worst collapses EVER in its proud history and (even worse) Paul "I'm a life-long Rovers fan" Agnew - who was complicit in the criminal conspricy from the outset (he can sue me if I'm wrong but HE was involved with SK and JA in a meeting in India 3 months BEFORE Venkys bought the club) to have Venkys buy the club AND front for "other owners" AND complicit in the move to sack SA and replace him with SK (complicit BEFORE the actual take-over had been completed). Christ on a bike - if we're relying on Shebby Singh, Shaw and Paul "worst Rovers fan in our 137 year history" Agnew then we are DEFINATELY screwed, good and proper. Venkys please put the club up for sale NOW - yes it might take a few years to sell but the club simply cannot survive much longer under your disasterous tennure.[/p][/quote]Proof?[/p][/quote]Well if you actually attended BRAG meetings - like I would recomend to any Rovers fans who actually wanted to know what was going on within their own club - then you would know that BRAG have documented proof that both SK and PA attended a meeting with "Venky advisor" (haha) JA approx 3 months before the actual purchase. Infact, the meeting is well documented so it would be interesting if Andy Cryer actually asked Paul Agnew WHY both he (who was simply "BRFC press officer" and Steve Kean (3rd coach to the 1st team) at that time, WHY they flew to India with JA (who did have a reason for attending the meeting as he was THE nominated "advisor" to Venkys) - but WHY were Kean and Agnew as in India for the meeting ????[/p][/quote]Isn't it strange that the third in line team coach was at the meeting, but the manager ( Allardyce ) wasn't, and probably knew nothing about it.[/p][/quote]Where is it documented that SK and PA were at a meeting in India before the takeover? Fyrover

8:10pm Thu 11 Oct 12

CheltRover says...

bburnrover wrote:
The applicants are only interested in the money Shearer has never said he wants the job he only said he would talk to the club because its a lovely club.

The best applicants are the hungry for success younger guys with a track record like Hill.Hollowar,Ole Gunnar etc etc its a waste of time looking at Keane Souness and McCarthy as they are not hungry manager's and are jaded in my opinion.I am sure Glen Hoddle is the right guy as he has been away and has an appetite to get back into football management again.
Hoddle? God I hope not
[quote][p][bold]bburnrover[/bold] wrote: The applicants are only interested in the money Shearer has never said he wants the job he only said he would talk to the club because its a lovely club. The best applicants are the hungry for success younger guys with a track record like Hill.Hollowar,Ole Gunnar etc etc its a waste of time looking at Keane Souness and McCarthy as they are not hungry manager's and are jaded in my opinion.I am sure Glen Hoddle is the right guy as he has been away and has an appetite to get back into football management again.[/p][/quote]Hoddle? God I hope not CheltRover

8:17pm Thu 11 Oct 12

CheltRover says...

bluerob wrote:
2 Weeks and still drawing up a short list, what an absolute shambles.

Shebby, please contact John Williams, apologise and pay him what ever it takes to get him back. Then let him appoint a new manager and run the club the way a football club should be run.
Why do people keep talking about John Williams coming back? You're almost as deluded as kean was talking about Europe and winning the cup. Get real John Williams works for man city, why would he want to come back and work for the chicken pluckers?
[quote][p][bold]bluerob[/bold] wrote: 2 Weeks and still drawing up a short list, what an absolute shambles. Shebby, please contact John Williams, apologise and pay him what ever it takes to get him back. Then let him appoint a new manager and run the club the way a football club should be run.[/p][/quote]Why do people keep talking about John Williams coming back? You're almost as deluded as kean was talking about Europe and winning the cup. Get real John Williams works for man city, why would he want to come back and work for the chicken pluckers? CheltRover

8:29pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Nuttall Street says...

greenscreener wrote:
Hey Andy,

When was the last time you got a comment from ROBERT COAR, as a Director of the Club, I'm sure we would all like to hear his opinion ?
Excellent point! That would make interesting reading.
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: Hey Andy, When was the last time you got a comment from ROBERT COAR, as a Director of the Club, I'm sure we would all like to hear his opinion ?[/p][/quote]Excellent point! That would make interesting reading. Nuttall Street

8:32pm Thu 11 Oct 12

CheltRover says...

madrover wrote:
harwoodblue you forget that the walker trust are the villains in all this . They s**t on all of us saying the future was bright under the new owners . In my view bigger liars than the venkys
Don't be silly. Have you ever sold anything? After you sell it you have no say over what happens.
[quote][p][bold]madrover[/bold] wrote: harwoodblue you forget that the walker trust are the villains in all this . They s**t on all of us saying the future was bright under the new owners . In my view bigger liars than the venkys[/p][/quote]Don't be silly. Have you ever sold anything? After you sell it you have no say over what happens. CheltRover

8:48pm Thu 11 Oct 12

alphajono says...

you heard it here first steve kean has applied for the job disguised as a donut and is bookies fav to land the job
you heard it here first steve kean has applied for the job disguised as a donut and is bookies fav to land the job alphajono

8:57pm Thu 11 Oct 12

alphajono says...

J.C - Rishton wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
Wild Rover wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
Listen to Shaw and Agnew ???????

Come on Andy - are you taking the pi$$ ???

Derek Shaw who has overseen one of PNEs worst collapses EVER in its proud history and (even worse) Paul "I'm a life-long Rovers fan" Agnew - who was complicit in the criminal conspricy from the outset (he can sue me if I'm wrong but HE was involved with SK and JA in a meeting in India 3 months BEFORE Venkys bought the club) to have Venkys buy the club AND front for "other owners" AND complicit in the move to sack SA and replace him with SK (complicit BEFORE the actual take-over had been completed).

Christ on a bike - if we're relying on Shebby Singh, Shaw and Paul "worst Rovers fan in our 137 year history" Agnew then we are DEFINATELY screwed, good and proper.

Venkys please put the club up for sale NOW - yes it might take a few years to sell but the club simply cannot survive much longer under your disasterous tennure.
Proof?
Well if you actually attended BRAG meetings - like I would recomend to any Rovers fans who actually wanted to know what was going on within their own club - then you would know that BRAG have documented proof that both SK and PA attended a meeting with "Venky advisor" (haha) JA approx 3 months before the actual purchase.

Infact, the meeting is well documented so it would be interesting if Andy Cryer actually asked Paul Agnew WHY both he (who was simply "BRFC press officer" and Steve Kean (3rd coach to the 1st team) at that time, WHY they flew to India with JA (who did have a reason for attending the meeting as he was THE nominated "advisor" to Venkys) - but WHY were Kean and Agnew as in India for the meeting ????
Isn't it strange that the third in line team coach was at the meeting, but the manager ( Allardyce ) wasn't, and probably knew nothing about it.
Well I'm sure it was just a conicidence - just like it was COINCIDENCE that a man at that original meeting in India (Steve Kean) then became Rovers manager.

And I'm sure it was just a COINCIDENCE that that man (Steve Kean) had Jerome Anderson (a man also at that meeting in India) as his agent.

I'm sure it was also just a COINCIDENCE that the 3 assistant managers, who all served under SK were all Jerome Anderson clients (Jensen, Clement and Black).

I also think its just COINCIDENCE that (at least) 4 if not all 6 of the Portugese signings this summer were made through a Portugese agent with links to Jerome Andersons Portugese office - although, personally, I think thats just a COINCIDENCE !

And its funny - the more you delve into things that have happened at BRFC over the last 2 years the more you keep triping over this one word - COINCIDENCE - how very bizarre !!

Still, I'm sure thats just COINCIDENTAL.
Can't wait for the results of BRAG findings to to be investigated fully and brought out in the open, but can't understand why it's taking so long.
I fully believe something dodgy has been going on this last two years, hence the silence of Venkeys' ( still ongoing ) and the ' disappearance' of Anderson.
Well they are complex investigations and I have heard from 2 different people involved in "the dossier" and subsequent meetings that once they start following a lead, then 2 or 3 other things crop up which need looking into and so on and so forth so its a very complex and time-consuming thing.

However, that said BRAG did finish each meeting (PL, FA and sports minister) with the words "We are happy to give you time to investigate whats in this document and we know it will take some time but we will NOT accept a cover up. If you don't expose these people in time then we will, by making the file available to the general media".

I will also say that the Sports minister has also acted upon the document and that the govt (and I can't stand tories) won't allow any corruption in sport to be swept under the carpet.

That said - I know BRAG have acted (and still act) in a proper manner, allowing the authorities time to investigate but time is running out and I personally feel if nothing has progressed by the end of this year then BRAG should consider exposing their evidance in January through the English media.
why dont you like the tories there a great party i here boris has put his hat in the ring for the job as brfc manager
[quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: Listen to Shaw and Agnew ??????? Come on Andy - are you taking the pi$$ ??? Derek Shaw who has overseen one of PNEs worst collapses EVER in its proud history and (even worse) Paul "I'm a life-long Rovers fan" Agnew - who was complicit in the criminal conspricy from the outset (he can sue me if I'm wrong but HE was involved with SK and JA in a meeting in India 3 months BEFORE Venkys bought the club) to have Venkys buy the club AND front for "other owners" AND complicit in the move to sack SA and replace him with SK (complicit BEFORE the actual take-over had been completed). Christ on a bike - if we're relying on Shebby Singh, Shaw and Paul "worst Rovers fan in our 137 year history" Agnew then we are DEFINATELY screwed, good and proper. Venkys please put the club up for sale NOW - yes it might take a few years to sell but the club simply cannot survive much longer under your disasterous tennure.[/p][/quote]Proof?[/p][/quote]Well if you actually attended BRAG meetings - like I would recomend to any Rovers fans who actually wanted to know what was going on within their own club - then you would know that BRAG have documented proof that both SK and PA attended a meeting with "Venky advisor" (haha) JA approx 3 months before the actual purchase. Infact, the meeting is well documented so it would be interesting if Andy Cryer actually asked Paul Agnew WHY both he (who was simply "BRFC press officer" and Steve Kean (3rd coach to the 1st team) at that time, WHY they flew to India with JA (who did have a reason for attending the meeting as he was THE nominated "advisor" to Venkys) - but WHY were Kean and Agnew as in India for the meeting ????[/p][/quote]Isn't it strange that the third in line team coach was at the meeting, but the manager ( Allardyce ) wasn't, and probably knew nothing about it.[/p][/quote]Well I'm sure it was just a conicidence - just like it was COINCIDENCE that a man at that original meeting in India (Steve Kean) then became Rovers manager. And I'm sure it was just a COINCIDENCE that that man (Steve Kean) had Jerome Anderson (a man also at that meeting in India) as his agent. I'm sure it was also just a COINCIDENCE that the 3 assistant managers, who all served under SK were all Jerome Anderson clients (Jensen, Clement and Black). I also think its just COINCIDENCE that (at least) 4 if not all 6 of the Portugese signings this summer were made through a Portugese agent with links to Jerome Andersons Portugese office - although, personally, I think thats just a COINCIDENCE ! And its funny - the more you delve into things that have happened at BRFC over the last 2 years the more you keep triping over this one word - COINCIDENCE - how very bizarre !! Still, I'm sure thats just COINCIDENTAL.[/p][/quote]Can't wait for the results of BRAG findings to to be investigated fully and brought out in the open, but can't understand why it's taking so long. I fully believe something dodgy has been going on this last two years, hence the silence of Venkeys' ( still ongoing ) and the ' disappearance' of Anderson.[/p][/quote]Well they are complex investigations and I have heard from 2 different people involved in "the dossier" and subsequent meetings that once they start following a lead, then 2 or 3 other things crop up which need looking into and so on and so forth so its a very complex and time-consuming thing. However, that said BRAG did finish each meeting (PL, FA and sports minister) with the words "We are happy to give you time to investigate whats in this document and we know it will take some time but we will NOT accept a cover up. If you don't expose these people in time then we will, by making the file available to the general media". I will also say that the Sports minister has also acted upon the document and that the govt (and I can't stand tories) won't allow any corruption in sport to be swept under the carpet. That said - I know BRAG have acted (and still act) in a proper manner, allowing the authorities time to investigate but time is running out and I personally feel if nothing has progressed by the end of this year then BRAG should consider exposing their evidance in January through the English media.[/p][/quote]why dont you like the tories there a great party i here boris has put his hat in the ring for the job as brfc manager alphajono

9:17pm Thu 11 Oct 12

P888HOW says...

Tim Sherwood 1/3 on SKY BET looks like its Sherwood ???
Tim Sherwood 1/3 on SKY BET looks like its Sherwood ??? P888HOW

9:18pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Mr Purple says...

Some great posts tonight.

I hope BRAG is wrong but fear they could be right. Even so I want to concentrate on the positives, not on circumstantial evidence.

We have bought a good young player in Jordan Rhodes. (for a lot of money) - FACT
By hook or by crook we have also seen the end of kean. - FACT

Now whilst I shudder at the appointments of Agnew, Shaw, & Singh, at least there is someone actually administering at last.

I can't help but be excited in anticipation of who our next manager will be and I am eager to see what (whoever it is) does with this undoubtledy talented group.

I've witnessed a lot of Rovers managers and whoever it is, a new chapter is beginning for our club.

If I owned the club it would be Benitez. It won't be him, so whoever it is won't be my choice, but hey ho I don't own the club.

COYB
Some great posts tonight. I hope BRAG is wrong but fear they could be right. Even so I want to concentrate on the positives, not on circumstantial evidence. We have bought a good young player in Jordan Rhodes. (for a lot of money) - FACT By hook or by crook we have also seen the end of kean. - FACT Now whilst I shudder at the appointments of Agnew, Shaw, & Singh, at least there is someone actually administering at last. I can't help but be excited in anticipation of who our next manager will be and I am eager to see what (whoever it is) does with this undoubtledy talented group. I've witnessed a lot of Rovers managers and whoever it is, a new chapter is beginning for our club. If I owned the club it would be Benitez. It won't be him, so whoever it is won't be my choice, but hey ho I don't own the club. COYB Mr Purple

9:20pm Thu 11 Oct 12

whappen says...

Come the Revolution wrote:
Venkys are now in a very enviable position. They can look at the Asian betting market for the new manager, find somebody at say 20/1, and put £5m on him,and then give him the job. They can pocket the money and sell the club off in about 6 months. Might be the best answer all round. If they choose a rank outsider as the new manager then there is every chance of the plan being put into action. They don't care two tosses about the fans,as they have previously demonstrated. IMHO.
I think the bookies might have something to say about that.
[quote][p][bold]Come the Revolution[/bold] wrote: Venkys are now in a very enviable position. They can look at the Asian betting market for the new manager, find somebody at say 20/1, and put £5m on him,and then give him the job. They can pocket the money and sell the club off in about 6 months. Might be the best answer all round. If they choose a rank outsider as the new manager then there is every chance of the plan being put into action. They don't care two tosses about the fans,as they have previously demonstrated. IMHO.[/p][/quote]I think the bookies might have something to say about that. whappen

9:27pm Thu 11 Oct 12

silverstan says...

**** me Cryer, how can Shabba Ranks give advice on a new manager ?? Just because he has been on ESPN Asia doesn't make him a specialist on new managers, your such a **** !!!!
**** me Cryer, how can Shabba Ranks give advice on a new manager ?? Just because he has been on ESPN Asia doesn't make him a specialist on new managers, your such a **** !!!! silverstan

9:34pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Mr Purple says...

silverstan wrote:
**** me Cryer, how can Shabba Ranks give advice on a new manager ?? Just because he has been on ESPN Asia doesn't make him a specialist on new managers, your such a **** !!!!
He can do it because he's in the position to do it. We're about it find out if he's any good at it.
[quote][p][bold]silverstan[/bold] wrote: **** me Cryer, how can Shabba Ranks give advice on a new manager ?? Just because he has been on ESPN Asia doesn't make him a specialist on new managers, your such a **** !!!![/p][/quote]He can do it because he's in the position to do it. We're about it find out if he's any good at it. Mr Purple

9:39pm Thu 11 Oct 12

modan says...

Venky are offering £2 million for the new manager ,thats more than many top European Clubs likes of AC Milan,Inter Milan,Juventus,Borus
ia Dortmond and some Premiership Clubs whom pays less than £2 million..So Venky must be serious of getting BRFC back in the Premiership where they belong.So many are linked with BRFC vacant managers post.Redknapp,Benite
z,Roy Keane,Shearer,Sherwo
od and many more.Why waste a lot of money why not hire people like Grayson,Pearson,Hill who have experience in Championsip league.
Venky are offering £2 million for the new manager ,thats more than many top European Clubs likes of AC Milan,Inter Milan,Juventus,Borus ia Dortmond and some Premiership Clubs whom pays less than £2 million..So Venky must be serious of getting BRFC back in the Premiership where they belong.So many are linked with BRFC vacant managers post.Redknapp,Benite z,Roy Keane,Shearer,Sherwo od and many more.Why waste a lot of money why not hire people like Grayson,Pearson,Hill who have experience in Championsip league. modan

9:51pm Thu 11 Oct 12

roverinmanchstr says...

modan wrote:
Venky are offering £2 million for the new manager ,thats more than many top European Clubs likes of AC Milan,Inter Milan,Juventus,Borus ia Dortmond and some Premiership Clubs whom pays less than £2 million..So Venky must be serious of getting BRFC back in the Premiership where they belong.So many are linked with BRFC vacant managers post.Redknapp,Benite z,Roy Keane,Shearer,Sherwo od and many more.Why waste a lot of money why not hire people like Grayson,Pearson,Hill who have experience in Championsip league.
I can't believe what I am reading...I take it that you know the FACTS re :numeration..Your 'linked' managers to the post is Venky' bo!!ocks and Shabby.........Who's going to stake their reputation under a Clueless Venky administration???? Think about it..
You must be on some kind of drug...The favourite ,apart from Black' is Norman No-one- knows- me...You'd better believe it !!
[quote][p][bold]modan[/bold] wrote: Venky are offering £2 million for the new manager ,thats more than many top European Clubs likes of AC Milan,Inter Milan,Juventus,Borus ia Dortmond and some Premiership Clubs whom pays less than £2 million..So Venky must be serious of getting BRFC back in the Premiership where they belong.So many are linked with BRFC vacant managers post.Redknapp,Benite z,Roy Keane,Shearer,Sherwo od and many more.Why waste a lot of money why not hire people like Grayson,Pearson,Hill who have experience in Championsip league.[/p][/quote]I can't believe what I am reading...I take it that you know the FACTS re :numeration..Your 'linked' managers to the post is Venky' bo!!ocks and Shabby.........Who's going to stake their reputation under a Clueless Venky administration???? Think about it.. You must be on some kind of drug...The favourite ,apart from Black' is Norman No-one- knows- me...You'd better believe it !! roverinmanchstr

9:54pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Dchampy says...

Who will "find" their new manager first - us or Bolton?

I'm hearing Trappatoni is a strong contender - but there again Sven was going to join us in '96 as a proven European manager......and that didnt happen, just like Zidane didn't come - so even in JW's day we had promises that didnt turn in to reality.

OGS/Baby faced assassin for me.....
Who will "find" their new manager first - us or Bolton? I'm hearing Trappatoni is a strong contender - but there again Sven was going to join us in '96 as a proven European manager......and that didnt happen, just like Zidane didn't come - so even in JW's day we had promises that didnt turn in to reality. OGS/Baby faced assassin for me..... Dchampy

9:55pm Thu 11 Oct 12

255.255.255.0 says...

It seems like Venkys still dont know what they are doing, Keans out, now it time to get rid of the chicken farmers and get someone in who knows how to run this club. All talk, little, punitive action. Venkys dont have the capacity to run a football club. During the darkest days of our club, they were a no show at the ground as we all know. We are slipping away in the league, yet another promise of return to the premiership seems to be dwindling away. God save our club, our reputation, and slipping further away down the league.
It seems like Venkys still dont know what they are doing, Keans out, now it time to get rid of the chicken farmers and get someone in who knows how to run this club. All talk, little, punitive action. Venkys dont have the capacity to run a football club. During the darkest days of our club, they were a no show at the ground as we all know. We are slipping away in the league, yet another promise of return to the premiership seems to be dwindling away. God save our club, our reputation, and slipping further away down the league. 255.255.255.0

9:56pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Rovers1975 says...

Mr Purple wrote:
Some great posts tonight.

I hope BRAG is wrong but fear they could be right. Even so I want to concentrate on the positives, not on circumstantial evidence.

We have bought a good young player in Jordan Rhodes. (for a lot of money) - FACT
By hook or by crook we have also seen the end of kean. - FACT

Now whilst I shudder at the appointments of Agnew, Shaw, & Singh, at least there is someone actually administering at last.

I can't help but be excited in anticipation of who our next manager will be and I am eager to see what (whoever it is) does with this undoubtledy talented group.

I've witnessed a lot of Rovers managers and whoever it is, a new chapter is beginning for our club.

If I owned the club it would be Benitez. It won't be him, so whoever it is won't be my choice, but hey ho I don't own the club.

COYB
Bl00dy well said here here.......
[quote][p][bold]Mr Purple[/bold] wrote: Some great posts tonight. I hope BRAG is wrong but fear they could be right. Even so I want to concentrate on the positives, not on circumstantial evidence. We have bought a good young player in Jordan Rhodes. (for a lot of money) - FACT By hook or by crook we have also seen the end of kean. - FACT Now whilst I shudder at the appointments of Agnew, Shaw, & Singh, at least there is someone actually administering at last. I can't help but be excited in anticipation of who our next manager will be and I am eager to see what (whoever it is) does with this undoubtledy talented group. I've witnessed a lot of Rovers managers and whoever it is, a new chapter is beginning for our club. If I owned the club it would be Benitez. It won't be him, so whoever it is won't be my choice, but hey ho I don't own the club. COYB[/p][/quote]Bl00dy well said here here....... Rovers1975

9:56pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Rovers1975 says...

Mr Purple wrote:
Some great posts tonight.

I hope BRAG is wrong but fear they could be right. Even so I want to concentrate on the positives, not on circumstantial evidence.

We have bought a good young player in Jordan Rhodes. (for a lot of money) - FACT
By hook or by crook we have also seen the end of kean. - FACT

Now whilst I shudder at the appointments of Agnew, Shaw, & Singh, at least there is someone actually administering at last.

I can't help but be excited in anticipation of who our next manager will be and I am eager to see what (whoever it is) does with this undoubtledy talented group.

I've witnessed a lot of Rovers managers and whoever it is, a new chapter is beginning for our club.

If I owned the club it would be Benitez. It won't be him, so whoever it is won't be my choice, but hey ho I don't own the club.

COYB
Bl00dy well said here here.......
[quote][p][bold]Mr Purple[/bold] wrote: Some great posts tonight. I hope BRAG is wrong but fear they could be right. Even so I want to concentrate on the positives, not on circumstantial evidence. We have bought a good young player in Jordan Rhodes. (for a lot of money) - FACT By hook or by crook we have also seen the end of kean. - FACT Now whilst I shudder at the appointments of Agnew, Shaw, & Singh, at least there is someone actually administering at last. I can't help but be excited in anticipation of who our next manager will be and I am eager to see what (whoever it is) does with this undoubtledy talented group. I've witnessed a lot of Rovers managers and whoever it is, a new chapter is beginning for our club. If I owned the club it would be Benitez. It won't be him, so whoever it is won't be my choice, but hey ho I don't own the club. COYB[/p][/quote]Bl00dy well said here here....... Rovers1975

10:11pm Thu 11 Oct 12

roverinmanchstr says...

Rovers1975 wrote:
Mr Purple wrote: Some great posts tonight. I hope BRAG is wrong but fear they could be right. Even so I want to concentrate on the positives, not on circumstantial evidence. We have bought a good young player in Jordan Rhodes. (for a lot of money) - FACT By hook or by crook we have also seen the end of kean. - FACT Now whilst I shudder at the appointments of Agnew, Shaw, & Singh, at least there is someone actually administering at last. I can't help but be excited in anticipation of who our next manager will be and I am eager to see what (whoever it is) does with this undoubtledy talented group. I've witnessed a lot of Rovers managers and whoever it is, a new chapter is beginning for our club. If I owned the club it would be Benitez. It won't be him, so whoever it is won't be my choice, but hey ho I don't own the club. COYB
Bl00dy well said here here.......
How can it be 'a New chapter at our club' When Venk'ys are still in control???
[quote][p][bold]Rovers1975[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Purple[/bold] wrote: Some great posts tonight. I hope BRAG is wrong but fear they could be right. Even so I want to concentrate on the positives, not on circumstantial evidence. We have bought a good young player in Jordan Rhodes. (for a lot of money) - FACT By hook or by crook we have also seen the end of kean. - FACT Now whilst I shudder at the appointments of Agnew, Shaw, & Singh, at least there is someone actually administering at last. I can't help but be excited in anticipation of who our next manager will be and I am eager to see what (whoever it is) does with this undoubtledy talented group. I've witnessed a lot of Rovers managers and whoever it is, a new chapter is beginning for our club. If I owned the club it would be Benitez. It won't be him, so whoever it is won't be my choice, but hey ho I don't own the club. COYB[/p][/quote]Bl00dy well said here here.......[/p][/quote]How can it be 'a New chapter at our club' When Venk'ys are still in control??? roverinmanchstr

10:15pm Thu 11 Oct 12

French Rover says...

Dchampy wrote:
Who will "find" their new manager first - us or Bolton?

I'm hearing Trappatoni is a strong contender - but there again Sven was going to join us in '96 as a proven European manager......and that didnt happen, just like Zidane didn't come - so even in JW's day we had promises that didnt turn in to reality.

OGS/Baby faced assassin for me.....
Sounds like we will have a new manager before Monday. The best price you can get on Sherwood tonight is 2-5 on...makes him a 'racing certainty' for the job. All hail the Tim! Timmy Sherwood's Blue and White Army!

Now we can concentrate on the football again and getting back to the prem!

Well done Rovers - a sound footballing appointment.
[quote][p][bold]Dchampy[/bold] wrote: Who will "find" their new manager first - us or Bolton? I'm hearing Trappatoni is a strong contender - but there again Sven was going to join us in '96 as a proven European manager......and that didnt happen, just like Zidane didn't come - so even in JW's day we had promises that didnt turn in to reality. OGS/Baby faced assassin for me.....[/p][/quote]Sounds like we will have a new manager before Monday. The best price you can get on Sherwood tonight is 2-5 on...makes him a 'racing certainty' for the job. All hail the Tim! Timmy Sherwood's Blue and White Army! Now we can concentrate on the football again and getting back to the prem! Well done Rovers - a sound footballing appointment. French Rover

10:17pm Thu 11 Oct 12

ronnie clayton says...

You do not go from 2/1 against to 1/3 on unless there`s something solid happening .
I would say its now 99.9% definately SHERWOOD .

GOOD LUCK TIM .

Get rid of the rest of Kean`s drinking chums ,they will drag you down , and lets all move forward.
You do not go from 2/1 against to 1/3 on unless there`s something solid happening . I would say its now 99.9% definately SHERWOOD . GOOD LUCK TIM . Get rid of the rest of Kean`s drinking chums ,they will drag you down , and lets all move forward. ronnie clayton

10:32pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Brfc24138931 says...

The club is in meltdown and until ALL idiots involved who have distroyed it get out, we are going only one way and that's downwards. We don't want any ex players. WE NEED EXPERIENCE. WE DON'T WANT UNTRIED MANGERS
The club is in meltdown and until ALL idiots involved who have distroyed it get out, we are going only one way and that's downwards. We don't want any ex players. WE NEED EXPERIENCE. WE DON'T WANT UNTRIED MANGERS Brfc24138931

10:56pm Thu 11 Oct 12

proud burnley lad says...

going down my lord going down haha last visit to the indian side of LT you were all bragging about OGS lol what happened there? oops have bolton took him out the picture for you haha and on skysports website manager after manager are saying nope nope nope haha agent black do you copy? sorie KING KEANY my signals low am in india signing to be the manager for next 10 years OVER....
going down my lord going down haha last visit to the indian side of LT you were all bragging about OGS lol what happened there? oops have bolton took him out the picture for you haha and on skysports website manager after manager are saying nope nope nope haha agent black do you copy? sorie KING KEANY my signals low am in india signing to be the manager for next 10 years OVER.... proud burnley lad

11:09pm Thu 11 Oct 12

kiwipom73 says...

IF Henry did make those comments on Sky...then he is thinking ONLY OF HIMSELF....and if the Venky,s again are sucked in by Anderson,s & Hendry,s then it is going to be a step backward.

Venky,s MUST allow a completed sweep-out of the old coaching staff related in any way to the Kean era....and a new team/Manager in, with your full support / backing....no interference....ALL VERY SIMPLE IF YOU ARE SERIOUS FOR SUCCESS !!!
IF Henry did make those comments on Sky...then he is thinking ONLY OF HIMSELF....and if the Venky,s again are sucked in by Anderson,s & Hendry,s then it is going to be a step backward. Venky,s MUST allow a completed sweep-out of the old coaching staff related in any way to the Kean era....and a new team/Manager in, with your full support / backing....no interference....ALL VERY SIMPLE IF YOU ARE SERIOUS FOR SUCCESS !!! kiwipom73

8:52am Fri 12 Oct 12

bburnrover says...

ooks like Bolton will get first choice of the best manager available as Shebby persues his Tottenham idol Tim Sherwood the guy who knows everything about running a football club and going for promotion from the Championship.The mind boggles why do top Premiership clubs manage to find a manager quicker than us?
ooks like Bolton will get first choice of the best manager available as Shebby persues his Tottenham idol Tim Sherwood the guy who knows everything about running a football club and going for promotion from the Championship.The mind boggles why do top Premiership clubs manage to find a manager quicker than us? bburnrover

9:09am Fri 12 Oct 12

forever blue and white says...

bburnrover wrote:
ooks like Bolton will get first choice of the best manager available as Shebby persues his Tottenham idol Tim Sherwood the guy who knows everything about running a football club and going for promotion from the Championship.The mind boggles why do top Premiership clubs manage to find a manager quicker than us?
you are moaning before anything has even been agreed
I assume you will be boycotting if Sherwood gets the job
Some of the Rovers supporters are pathetic
[quote][p][bold]bburnrover[/bold] wrote: ooks like Bolton will get first choice of the best manager available as Shebby persues his Tottenham idol Tim Sherwood the guy who knows everything about running a football club and going for promotion from the Championship.The mind boggles why do top Premiership clubs manage to find a manager quicker than us?[/p][/quote]you are moaning before anything has even been agreed I assume you will be boycotting if Sherwood gets the job Some of the Rovers supporters are pathetic forever blue and white

9:19am Fri 12 Oct 12

A Darener says...

Although I would prefer OGS as my first choice, I am quite prepared to give Tim Sherwood a go if we are not going for an experienced man. I think Tim would be the best choice of the rest of the candidates. He knows the Rovers, he knows the fans, he would be able to attract "names" to the club. Despite the Venky's.
But we must geet in quick before Bolton steal a march on us. As for Burnley their best bet is to go for a well known manager, infamous even. May I suggets a man who can easily get them to Euro championship leve within 2 years. His name Steve Kean.
Although I would prefer OGS as my first choice, I am quite prepared to give Tim Sherwood a go if we are not going for an experienced man. I think Tim would be the best choice of the rest of the candidates. He knows the Rovers, he knows the fans, he would be able to attract "names" to the club. Despite the Venky's. But we must geet in quick before Bolton steal a march on us. As for Burnley their best bet is to go for a well known manager, infamous even. May I suggets a man who can easily get them to Euro championship leve within 2 years. His name Steve Kean. A Darener

9:24am Fri 12 Oct 12

forever blue and white says...

forever blue and white wrote:
bburnrover wrote:
ooks like Bolton will get first choice of the best manager available as Shebby persues his Tottenham idol Tim Sherwood the guy who knows everything about running a football club and going for promotion from the Championship.The mind boggles why do top Premiership clubs manage to find a manager quicker than us?
you are moaning before anything has even been agreed
I assume you will be boycotting if Sherwood gets the job
Some of the Rovers supporters are pathetic
Also Sherwood was the captain when we won the Premier League.
At the time there could have been more obvious captains (Shearer, Hendry)
Therefore somewhere along the line he must be able to get his team together and work for each other.
Maybe we should at least give him a chance before we start slating him
I would rather give Sherwood a go than the merry go round of failed managers!
[quote][p][bold]forever blue and white[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bburnrover[/bold] wrote: ooks like Bolton will get first choice of the best manager available as Shebby persues his Tottenham idol Tim Sherwood the guy who knows everything about running a football club and going for promotion from the Championship.The mind boggles why do top Premiership clubs manage to find a manager quicker than us?[/p][/quote]you are moaning before anything has even been agreed I assume you will be boycotting if Sherwood gets the job Some of the Rovers supporters are pathetic[/p][/quote]Also Sherwood was the captain when we won the Premier League. At the time there could have been more obvious captains (Shearer, Hendry) Therefore somewhere along the line he must be able to get his team together and work for each other. Maybe we should at least give him a chance before we start slating him I would rather give Sherwood a go than the merry go round of failed managers! forever blue and white

9:27am Fri 12 Oct 12

Harwoodstblue says...

forever blue and white wrote:
bburnrover wrote:
ooks like Bolton will get first choice of the best manager available as Shebby persues his Tottenham idol Tim Sherwood the guy who knows everything about running a football club and going for promotion from the Championship.The mind boggles why do top Premiership clubs manage to find a manager quicker than us?
you are moaning before anything has even been agreed
I assume you will be boycotting if Sherwood gets the job
Some of the Rovers supporters are pathetic
If I had a business and employed a rookie manager and the decision went disastrously wrong ( losing millions ), I would learn from my mistake, and not employ a rookie again.
Next time I would look for someone with more experience to put my trust in.
[quote][p][bold]forever blue and white[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bburnrover[/bold] wrote: ooks like Bolton will get first choice of the best manager available as Shebby persues his Tottenham idol Tim Sherwood the guy who knows everything about running a football club and going for promotion from the Championship.The mind boggles why do top Premiership clubs manage to find a manager quicker than us?[/p][/quote]you are moaning before anything has even been agreed I assume you will be boycotting if Sherwood gets the job Some of the Rovers supporters are pathetic[/p][/quote]If I had a business and employed a rookie manager and the decision went disastrously wrong ( losing millions ), I would learn from my mistake, and not employ a rookie again. Next time I would look for someone with more experience to put my trust in. Harwoodstblue

9:29am Fri 12 Oct 12

stick to football says...

I still despair that Venkys and the Management Team did not have a replacement lined up for Kean at the outset.

Why does it take them 13 days to draw up a short list if they know who they want?

Just get it sorted - or do they just love the publicity - while saying absolutely nothing
I still despair that Venkys and the Management Team did not have a replacement lined up for Kean at the outset. Why does it take them 13 days to draw up a short list if they know who they want? Just get it sorted - or do they just love the publicity - while saying absolutely nothing stick to football

9:33am Fri 12 Oct 12

FannyTickler says...

Sherwood out.
Sherwood out. FannyTickler

12:02pm Fri 12 Oct 12

makaveli96 says...

ronnie clayton wrote:
You do not go from 2/1 against to 1/3 on unless there`s something solid happening . I would say its now 99.9% definately SHERWOOD . GOOD LUCK TIM . Get rid of the rest of Kean`s drinking chums ,they will drag you down , and lets all move forward.
Of course you do, its called insider betting.

Send out the rumour Sherwood will be manager, then LAY the bet!

Easy money
[quote][p][bold]ronnie clayton[/bold] wrote: You do not go from 2/1 against to 1/3 on unless there`s something solid happening . I would say its now 99.9% definately SHERWOOD . GOOD LUCK TIM . Get rid of the rest of Kean`s drinking chums ,they will drag you down , and lets all move forward.[/p][/quote]Of course you do, its called insider betting. Send out the rumour Sherwood will be manager, then LAY the bet! Easy money makaveli96

7:33pm Fri 12 Oct 12

Dingle Infiltrator says...

ronnie clayton wrote:
You do not go from 2/1 against to 1/3 on unless there`s something solid happening .
I would say its now 99.9% definately SHERWOOD .

GOOD LUCK TIM .

Get rid of the rest of Kean`s drinking chums ,they will drag you down , and lets all move forward.
Well if the bookie in question is Betfred you go from 2/1 against to 1/3 because someone had £500 quid on.

Baldy sh*its his pants, slashes the odds and when it wins he tries to knock you. And then runs a series of adverts telling us all he's "been giving us value for 40 years".

And that is because he is a c*unt.

FYI so is Tim Deadwood. A real piece of filth. Hope you get him !!
[quote][p][bold]ronnie clayton[/bold] wrote: You do not go from 2/1 against to 1/3 on unless there`s something solid happening . I would say its now 99.9% definately SHERWOOD . GOOD LUCK TIM . Get rid of the rest of Kean`s drinking chums ,they will drag you down , and lets all move forward.[/p][/quote]Well if the bookie in question is Betfred you go from 2/1 against to 1/3 because someone had £500 quid on. Baldy sh*its his pants, slashes the odds and when it wins he tries to knock you. And then runs a series of adverts telling us all he's "been giving us value for 40 years". And that is because he is a c*unt. FYI so is Tim Deadwood. A real piece of filth. Hope you get him !! Dingle Infiltrator

7:49pm Fri 12 Oct 12

Dingle Infiltrator says...

"THE first question any manager will ask Venky’s with regards the Ewood Park hot seat is surely ‘will I be allowed to manage things my way?’. "

You are wrong.

The first question any manager will ask Venkys is: "Has somebody cleaned out the toilet since Kean left, because I don't want to walk into a lavatory which is smeared top to bottom in Kean's dried liquid ****"

Get your facts straight
"THE first question any manager will ask Venky’s with regards the Ewood Park hot seat is surely ‘will I be allowed to manage things my way?’. " You are wrong. The first question any manager will ask Venkys is: "Has somebody cleaned out the toilet since Kean left, because I don't want to walk into a lavatory which is smeared top to bottom in Kean's dried liquid ****" Get your facts straight Dingle Infiltrator

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