Blackburn Rovers Blog: Venky’s have to show their business sense (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Well said andy, i feel sorry for you that you have been abused by sime rovers fans. Its not your fault that kean hasent been sacked yet. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK AND YES THE TWEETS ASWELL

We are also investers in our club each of us putting in thousands during our life time of support thru gate receipt and merchandise. I am not spending another penny until the man has been sacked.

Venkys arnt ignoring their customers, Venkys don't even own Ewood. A company like venkys who have a billion doller empire don't just igonre its customers, they just dont. Open youreyes people...!! Anderson owns Ewood there is a dark cloud over Blackburn Rovers and it starts an ends with Anderson and Kean .... !!

Note the word "successful" poultry business these people arnt bloody stupid if they owned ewood they would sort the crisis out....!!

Think i will go and watch Fleetwood Town . It has to be better than giving venky's my money. Over 50 year's of supporting the Rover's And it has come to this. Shame on you Kean you have no morals.

Keep the pressure on, we'll get our way eventually. Everton fans moaned until they got some money to spend on transfers, Liverpool fans moaned until they got let into a European competition they didn't qualify for. All we want is honesty and integrity, not a lot to ask.

She's heard the tears already ... unfortunately, they were Margaret Kean's ...

As. I have said many times Kean is just a chancer really, he was in a good position to be offered the chance to show what he is about. But, in the way he has fronted up to the support he has alienated them.
Yes, much of the attacks have been over the top and out of order. But he has done himself no favours by seemingly applauding everything Venkys have done wrong.
The list of these wrongs is so long it's untrue. We can all allow for their lack of experience in running a football club, but many many times they have been offered good free advice and discounted it out of hand.
Now I don't personally know how they treat their employees or customers out there, but if it is anything like they have treated our support, it is 1) a miracle they still have a business and 2) no wonder their stock value is falling.
For me the removal of Kean is inevitable and overdue (he will though be a far far richer man for the experience, only his pride is dented).
However, my feelings toward Venkys is the same as it was when they dismantled our fine clubs structure, and even if we can attract a decent manager they need to massively change their attitude toward the support base and the guy/guys actually running the club.
I am none too sure how much behavioural change is needed for a total coming together is needed, but for many I suspect none will be enough.
I have total empathy with that.

stu82 wrote:
Note the word "successful" poultry business these people arnt bloody stupid if they owned ewood they would sort the crisis out....!!

I am not sure how successful they are. I read that the business value had halved in the last year. How much of the success of the company is down to the father and how much to his idiot children?

stu82 wrote:
Venkys arnt ignoring their customers, Venkys don't even own Ewood. A company like venkys who have a billion doller empire don't just igonre its customers, they just dont. Open youreyes people...!! Anderson owns Ewood there is a dark cloud over Blackburn Rovers and it starts an ends with Anderson and Kean .... !!

If you can back that up fine, you should also be handing this valuable information to the authorities of the investigation.
In effect, if you are right the investigation will uncover it, it is inevitable.
He who must not be named's role for me has just given him many opportunities to pick up many large fees for players movements, maybe some influence upon how we (BRFC) do business. Who knows!!!
IF the said individual did actually own any controlling rights whatsoever they would/ should be fairly easy to trace. Don't forget we have a prominent MP on the case. That can open many doors that are closed to most others!
No, for me it is a personal contract that Venkys have with HWMNBN, this I believe is the cause for most of the stalling and indecision.

having been a supporter for over 60 years, a shareholder and season ticket holder,I only renewed my ticket this season after being persuaded by my family and grandchildren.Over the years I have seen the club in difficult positions before but the club have always survived and following the jack walker investment have enjoyed the good times until the venkys became involved. Managers over the years have been either good or bad (according to the supporters). The bad ones have been replaced very quickly but not now.WHY NOT.How long does it take the owners to realise how much support(and income) they are losing. The sooner a new manager is appointed the better. The system employed by the manager in the past couple of games defies discription .Does he realy know what he is doing. He must be the only manager who would stand there for the past 12 months and receive such abuse and not take the hint and leave. Jim

Good article, Andy. However, I feel that the problem is now too deep rooted for a simple change of manager to make any difference. There are too many people involved at management level with vague levels of responsibility. Who actually owns the club, for a start? Do Anderson or Keane have a financial interest? If so it's going to be hard to get rid if them.
The only way forward for me is a complete change of ownership with a new proper management structure in place, including an experienced Championship manager, not an unproved rookie like Sherwood, as good as he was as a player.

bring back the good old days says...

"For me the removal of Kean is inevitable and overdue with only his pride is dented"

Pride, what f#cking pride? If he had an ounce of pride he would have resigned or better still never taken the job in the first place.

I know deep down that Vekys are responsible for this mess but sacking Kean was, for me, their last chance to repair some of the damage. Get rid of the donut and we could possible look the other way with regards to their lack of thoughts and ideas. But no, still they carry on bumbling along with their inept approach to everthing regards Rovers.

Watch their next moves carefully. I predict Kean wont be removed from BRFC but moved somewhere internally and they will appoint a replacement that will cost them as little money as possible.

Moving Kean to another job is not the answer and neither is appointing any manager who hasnt got the experience to get us back to the PL.

This is their last chance to get it right but I'd bet money they will blow it, like everthing they have done before.

There is a boycott being planned for the Wolves game. An advert in the LT is being prepared right now. Spread the word - your non-attendance forces Kean closer to his exit.

Yeah good article. What are peoples thoughts on tim sherwood? If he was mad enough to come i reckon he would be good

Yeah good article. What are peoples thoughts on tim sherwood? If he was mad enough to come i reckon he would be good

I live in spain now but still follow the rovers avidly, it is obvious that the rovers lack leadership on and off the pitch, they could solve this problem by going for somebody like jamie garragher as player manager,commitment would then become a byword at the club

Sam-the-Man wrote:
bring back the good old days says...

"For me the removal of Kean is inevitable and overdue with only his pride is dented"

Pride, what f#cking pride? If he had an ounce of pride he would have resigned or better still never taken the job in the first place.

I know deep down that Vekys are responsible for this mess but sacking Kean was, for me, their last chance to repair some of the damage. Get rid of the donut and we could possible look the other way with regards to their lack of thoughts and ideas. But no, still they carry on bumbling along with their inept approach to everthing regards Rovers.

Watch their next moves carefully. I predict Kean wont be removed from BRFC but moved somewhere internally and they will appoint a replacement that will cost them as little money as possible.

Moving Kean to another job is not the answer and neither is appointing any manager who hasnt got the experience to get us back to the PL.

This is their last chance to get it right but I'd bet money they will blow it, like everthing they have done before.

The pride I refer to is his own self esteem, dillusion, call it what you will.
It is a totally personal thing, and he believes in himself totally, it matters not what we think, he will not alter his view of himself because we do not agree.
As I say he was in a good place to grab a position and he took it, the salary he is is on he could not have even dreamt of. Is he (or you) really gona walk away and throw away a fortune????
That does not mean I respect him or applaud him, just that I can at least see it from his side.
He has had a good innings, and it looks like it is over.
This man should not have been retained after 2010/2011. This is why I have not attended since the Apr/May 2011.

We need a proven manager at this point in the clubs history, no more gambles or chancers!

Rovers do need a proven manager but who in thier right mind would come to Ewood with this shower i charge? Maybe that is why they are trying to get Tim Sherwood, He would probably be a good number two to a decent manager.

MONEY! MONEY! MONEY! That's behind all this. Venky's know how to make money, they aren't stupid business wise, so this is all deliberate. It is what they want. They are getting lots of PUBLICITY!

BRFC is only a small distant part of their empire, a plaything, an experiment. Even if they don 't know about football and have made some mistakes it makes no difference to the overall plan. They are getting worldwide publicity. NO PUBLICITY IS BAD PUBLICITY!

We don't know the ins and outs of the BRFC staff, advisers, managers etc but they have been sacked if they were independently-minded and hired if they would be Yes Men. Perhaps Kean or Shebby have thrown tantrums but it's publicity. And the seeming indecision and lack of positive action by Venky's? It allows the publicity to grow. LT are helping by continuing the myth that this is a proper business and that Venkys have the good of BRFC at heart. They are afraid to speak the truth because they might lose their contact with 'key' figures at the club. So they print articles like today's which only reinforce the view that Venkys are inexperienced, Kean is a pawn and that everything will come out right in the end, even with Venkys still in charge. (And no mention of Anderson. Oh no, NEVER MENTION ANDERSON!)

Venky's are finding out that no matter what they do, there are still a hard core of 10000+ fans who will continue to pay Venkys through thick and thin. They are not going to give that up so easily. They'll find a way to exploit that to the full.

Just board up Ewood or make an allotment or something. You lot of prawn sandwich "fans" have successfully ruined a perfectly fine club. Hang your heads.

I heard that Rovers have a £3m shirt sponsor offer but this is conditional upon Keen leaving as with Keen in charge the club attracts negative publicity. I have no idea where the story came from. It might be no more authentic that Klinsman being seen asking directions to the ground at Reidy's Home of Music. Can anyone shed any light?

johnny rover wrote:
I heard that Rovers have a £3m shirt sponsor offer but this is conditional upon Keen leaving as with Keen in charge the club attracts negative publicity. I have no idea where the story came from. It might be no more authentic that Klinsman being seen asking directions to the ground at Reidy's Home of Music. Can anyone shed any light?

Out of your ar$e perhaps? I heard that most Rovers fans are idiots. Oh yeh thats actually correct though.

No individual offense intended to you johnny rover, more of a generalisation.

Anybody who has done business/run a business in Asia/Far East will understand that it is a different kettle of fish to running a legitimate business in Europe and read into that what you will !!
So dont expect any straight forward decision making from this lot - as far as the fans are concerned Kean and cohorts have to go and this includes the like of Hendry and so called operations director Agnew - an absolute shambles and a disgrace!!
OUT WITH KEAN HENDRY AGNEW SINGH VENKYS IN WITH THOUSANDS OF FANS

1bnc wrote:
Yeah good article. What are peoples thoughts on tim sherwood? If he was mad enough to come i reckon he would be good

Good player, unproven (and therefore cheap) manager. It wouldn't work. Too many others pulling the strings. As I said earlier the problem is too deep rooted. It's everyone out and start again. Ok it'll take a few years to get back up to the Prem, but if you don't have good foundations the structure will collapse.

KEAN SACK
THOUSANDS BACK

ITS True VENKYS,and yes i agree Madam should come to the club see the **** we got.

Anderson to blame. Venky join the protest v wolves. Get him locked up

Well said, when it comes down to it its not about football, its about business and for Venkys to show such extreme negligence in business is unthinkable. All I can think is, Desai's late father obviously left her an empire, and she's dismantling the empire piece by piece. The incumbent Venky's family didn't build up thier empire, they were handed it, they were probably bought up without the knowledge of how to run a business and now theyve taken over are sinking all thier ships.

1bnc wrote:
Yeah good article. What are peoples thoughts on tim sherwood? If he was mad enough to come i reckon he would be good

Tim Sherwood isn't the answer. Doesn't have the experience. I think Singh has hooked onto him through being a Spurs fan and because Sherwood is an ex rovers player. Would be a wrong decision and wouldn't be long before fans were on his back

An investment thats gone horribly wrong for Venkys. They got trapped in the bright lights of the Premier League the Walkers said 'Thankyou very much, took the money and ran' and people wrongly advised them for their own gain. Its been greed all the way from the start at the top. They don't care about me, you or anybody else only the bottom line on the accounts and thats whats causing them concern now. If they were intrested in Rovers they would attend and be more visible within the Club. Simple as.
If they cared, they would have made a statement.
Steve Kean will be sacked as manager but I feel will still remain in the Club on the board. There has got to be more to this man than just contracted as a manager for the Club. Kean has no integrity so will remain, probably on the same wage, still causing animosity with his presence.
In my opinion the only way forward for Venkys, is, if they are serious about the club then rid the Club once and for all of Kean, Kentaro, Anderson, Agnew and Shaw. Then the Club can at least start to breathe again. They are going to have to start all over again, but unless they act soon they will have nothing to start again with.

merlinrabbit wrote:

1bnc wrote:
Yeah good article. What are peoples thoughts on tim sherwood? If he was mad enough to come i reckon he would be good

Tim Sherwood isn't the answer. Doesn't have the experience. I think Singh has hooked onto him through being a Spurs fan and because Sherwood is an ex rovers player. Would be a wrong decision and wouldn't be long before fans were on his back

I agree with that. Also Sherwood was the instigator (allegedly) in getting Hodgson sacked. Another snake?
We need a proven manager. Only people out of a job will come. No one currently a Manager of a Club would resign and come and work for this lot.

What business sense? They pay £8m for Rhodes and get £4m for Hoillet, sorry but that doesn't look like good business to me, along with most of the transfer dealings which have gone on since Venky's arrival, and don't tell me it's all down to Kean, these deals are being sanctioned at the top by the most deluded people ever to own a football club.The whole club needs purging of the virus which has infected it for the last 3years.

johnny rover wrote:
I heard that Rovers have a £3m shirt sponsor offer but this is conditional upon Keen leaving as with Keen in charge the club attracts negative publicity. I have no idea where the story came from. It might be no more authentic that Klinsman being seen asking directions to the ground at Reidy's Home of Music. Can anyone shed any light?

I think soon as Kean leaves then the Clubs rusty wheels may soon start turning again. (slowly) There are probably a few things in the pipeline , just waiting to be kick started, from supporters, who aren't spending any money, to corporates and sponsors.
We just need to get rid of that lowlife of a man Kean. If we can rid the club of him altogther then hopefully Agnew, Anderon and Shaw will follow.
(Or A.S.S if you want) then things might start happening. Maybe?

buzzinfly wrote:

johnny rover wrote:
I heard that Rovers have a £3m shirt sponsor offer but this is conditional upon Keen leaving as with Keen in charge the club attracts negative publicity. I have no idea where the story came from. It might be no more authentic that Klinsman being seen asking directions to the ground at Reidy's Home of Music. Can anyone shed any light?

I think soon as Kean leaves then the Clubs rusty wheels may soon start turning again. (slowly) There are probably a few things in the pipeline , just waiting to be kick started, from supporters, who aren't spending any money, to corporates and sponsors.
We just need to get rid of that lowlife of a man Kean. If we can rid the club of him altogther then hopefully Agnew, Anderon and Shaw will follow.
(Or A.S.S if you want) then things might start happening. Maybe?

Sorry ment to remove the A.S.S. bit.
Had Shebby in there but have given him a little slack for now,as I beleive he wants rid of Kean.

GameRoverMan wrote:

stu82 wrote: Note the word "successful" poultry business these people arnt bloody stupid if they owned ewood they would sort the crisis out....!!

I am not sure how successful they are. I read that the business value had halved in the last year. How much of the success of the company is down to the father and how much to his idiot children?

It is a reasonably successful business but not THAT successful.

Also, stu, if they do run a successful business and aren't stupid, why would they allow themselves to be used as front men for your alleged Anderson/Kean axis?

Would being found out not put their successful business at risk? It just doesn't make sense.

And IF Kean is part owner as you suggest a) where did he suddenly get all the money from? b) if he has already got that much money, why on earth is he allowing himself to be put through all the hassle for so little gain? and c) if he hasn't actually got any money but is trying to make some from the club, surely he would have "sacked" himself by now.

As for Anderson, as much as I despise the man, why would he want to own Rovers?

He has a very nice little number going already with SEM and he too would stand to lose more than he could ever get from Rovers if he is involved in any illegal activity, as you are suggesting.

He did contribute massively to the shambles this club has become but the secret owner? Sorry, I just can't see it.

the_iconoclast wrote:
Just board up Ewood or make an allotment or something. You lot of prawn sandwich "fans" have successfully ruined a perfectly fine club. Hang your heads.

your trolling is weak.

Bless you for trying though.

x

dangerous dave wrote:
Anybody who has done business/run a business in Asia/Far East will understand that it is a different kettle of fish to running a legitimate business in Europe and read into that what you will !!
So dont expect any straight forward decision making from this lot - as far as the fans are concerned Kean and cohorts have to go and this includes the like of Hendry and so called operations director Agnew - an absolute shambles and a disgrace!!
OUT WITH KEAN HENDRY AGNEW SINGH VENKYS IN WITH THOUSANDS OF FANS

Hey if your brains were made out of dynamite you'd be dangerous dave

buzzinfly wrote:

merlinrabbit wrote:

1bnc wrote:
Yeah good article. What are peoples thoughts on tim sherwood? If he was mad enough to come i reckon he would be good

Tim Sherwood isn't the answer. Doesn't have the experience. I think Singh has hooked onto him through being a Spurs fan and because Sherwood is an ex rovers player. Would be a wrong decision and wouldn't be long before fans were on his back

I agree with that. Also Sherwood was the instigator (allegedly) in getting Hodgson sacked. Another snake?
We need a proven manager. Only people out of a job will come. No one currently a Manager of a Club would resign and come and work for this lot.

I have to say I actually agree with Merlin on this one. Sherwood is only being mentioned because Shaggy is a Spurs fan. If Shaggy has actually recommended him then he needs to give himself an uppercut and leave with Kean. Sherwood or Shearer will get some fans back through the gates and there will be a honeymoon period for a couple of games but the team will start to lose. Which good, proven manager with any brains would go to Rovers with this set up?

As a Rovers an I generally agree with the majority of the posts on this and the other sections. Not so much with the poor transfer dealings as, despite some very risky (£8m fr Rhodes) or generally poor (a lot I agree), business wise we've faired quite well ver the last few seasons. Few clubs consistently buy an then sell at profit, but thanks largely to some quality offloads the bank balance hasn't been critically affected.

To chuck a devils advocate point of view in; Rovers are 3rd in the league (were top) DESPITE the negativity around the club. So does that mean that if we all drew a line under things, and gave Kean, the Venky's (who have after all pumped a lot of transfer cash in the club to season), and everyone else associated with the club our backing, we would walk this league......?

Chucking it out there

RQ

I thought you might like this (to the tune of She's Leaving by the Beatles):

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Friday Evening at 5 oclock
In the Evening

Silently closing the team room door
Leaving a note that he
Hoped would say more

He goes downstairs
To the kitchen
Clutching his Press Release

Quietly turning the back door key
Out of Ewood he is free

KEAN......
IS LEAVING.......
HOME......

Kean's leaving home after living a lie
For so many years
Bye.....Bye

Shebby snores as his wife
gets into her dressing gown
Picks up the letter
That's lying there
Standing alone at the
Top of the stairs

She breaks down
and cries to her husband
"Shebby our baby's gone!"

Why would he treat us so thoughtlessly?
How could he do this to me?

KEAN....(we never thought of ourselves)
IS LEAVING...(Never a thought for ourselves)
HOME (we plucked chickens all our lives to get by)

Kean's leaving home after
living a lie for so many years
Bye.....bye

Saturday afternoon at 3 oclcok
Kean is far away
Waiting to keep the appointment he made
Meeting a man from the motor trade

KEAN - (what did we do that was wrong?)
IS DRIVING (he doesn't know it is wrong)
A CAR (to drive a car while you're serving a BAN)

Ten pints inside is why
Kean was so fried for so many years
KEAN's LEAVING HOME

Bye....bye”