Berg 'concerned' at Blackburn Rovers' recruitment policy

HENNING Berg has expressed his “surprise” and “concern” at Blackburn Rovers ’ recruitment policy after manager Steve Kean admitted he had not seen any of his deadline day signings play ‘live’.

Portuguese duo Nuno Henrique and Diogo Rosado arrived with Polish international goalkeeper Grzegorz Sandomierski at Ewood Park on Friday, but Kean yesterday revealed the trio were not his targets.

The Rovers boss admitted all three had been strongly recommended by global adviser Shebby Singh and that he would work closely with them in the next few weeks in an attempt to get them ready for Championship football.

Kean also suggested the majority of Rovers’ other five Portuguese signings were Singh’s idea, after saying he brought the likes of Danny Murphy, Dickson Etuhu and Jordan Rhodes in to hit the ground running.

Former Rovers defender Berg, who won the Premier League title with them in 1995, has worked with ‘sporting directors’ during his management career in Norway but insisted the boss should always have the final say.

Berg said: “I have worked with sporting directors before but it was always the coach who would have the final say on signings. Every player who comes into the club should be the coach’s decision.

“I am very, very surprised that Steve Kean is not in charge of bringing all the signings in. It is very strange and not advisable. You have to question why he has said it now, at the end of the window.

“Maybe he wanted players that he wasn’t allowed to sign? I don’t know. A manager would never want to be in the position he has described though, because you wonder about how much control they have.

“If it has been like this for a long time, then he should have said it earlier. “The problem is if they are not his signings and they don’t play then they are a waste of money. Clubs can’t afford to waste money.”

Rovers fans have questioned the signing of six Portuguese players this summer, with Nuno Gomes, Paulo Jorge, Fabio Nunes and Edinho also brought to the club this summer.

Only Gomes has been a regular so far this campaign with Kean suggesting the others will need time to adapt to the pace of the league.

Kean said: “We would like to think they are in the club just now and we can take a real look at them. “I have not seen them play live. Shebby was very excited about them coming and was telling me how good they were.

“So we have now got them in the club and we would like to think we can improve any player who comes to the club and also integrate them as quickly as possible.

“I have not seen them. Shebby went to see Nuno Henrique play for Academica the Friday before we played Leicester and told me he played very well.

“The reports we do have for Greg are good but I have not seen him myself. “We like to think that any player who comes we can improve, with the technical training . “Bobby Mimms was impressed with Greg while Nuno is meant to have good pace, good defending ability and be good on the ball, so let’s see.

“Shebby Singh has identified these players. These players have been identified by Shebby, he has been very excited about the technical ability of these players. You can’t have too many good players.

“We have got them at the club and I would like to work with them intensely over the next couple of weeks to try and integrate them as quickly as possible, because we know how difficult it is.

“The other foreign lads that have come in, we just need to try and push them as quickly as possible. “I know the intensity is very different to how it is abroad. I know it will hit them right between the eyes.

“If they show they can compete they will get thrown in but if it looks as though it is going to be too much for them, we will protect them.”

Comments (56)

10:36am Thu 6 Sep 12

Forever-Blue says...

The odious one had nothing to do with the signing of Rhodes or Murphy.

He just cant stop lying can he.

10K back when Kean gets the sack.
The odious one had nothing to do with the signing of Rhodes or Murphy. He just cant stop lying can he. 10K back when Kean gets the sack. Forever-Blue

10:36am Thu 6 Sep 12

janus1947 says...

If we can talk to a few more ex players we can keep this story running for at least a week.
If we can talk to a few more ex players we can keep this story running for at least a week. janus1947

10:36am Thu 6 Sep 12

Lancs - pensioner says...

Total shambles from top to bottom!
Total shambles from top to bottom! Lancs - pensioner

10:37am Thu 6 Sep 12

ronnie clayton says...

Throw enough **** at the wall some of its gonna stick !
Throw enough **** at the wall some of its gonna stick ! ronnie clayton

10:41am Thu 6 Sep 12

GAZHAY says...

"We will protect them"...what a load of rubbish. A majority of your signings have been absolute rubbish so you then to try to protect them, or they are decent and then you made them absolute rubbish or didn't play them due to mystery injuries.
Henning the only thing the fans are really concerned about is when will Steve Kean be sacked and we can all come flooding back to Ewood!!!!
"We will protect them"...what a load of rubbish. A majority of your signings have been absolute rubbish so you then to try to protect them, or they are decent and then you made them absolute rubbish or didn't play them due to mystery injuries. Henning the only thing the fans are really concerned about is when will Steve Kean be sacked and we can all come flooding back to Ewood!!!! GAZHAY

10:42am Thu 6 Sep 12

thresholdweller says...

“The problem is if they are not his signings and they don’t play then they are a waste of money. Clubs can’t afford to waste money.” This sums up my feelings over many of the signings in the last couple of years. Rovers attendances were on the low side for the Premier League and are now understandably disastrous. Budgetting is important. We are heading towards being another Portsmouth.
“The problem is if they are not his signings and they don’t play then they are a waste of money. Clubs can’t afford to waste money.” This sums up my feelings over many of the signings in the last couple of years. Rovers attendances were on the low side for the Premier League and are now understandably disastrous. Budgetting is important. We are heading towards being another Portsmouth. thresholdweller

10:43am Thu 6 Sep 12

janus1947 says...

Throughout the history of football, managers have resigned when signings were made behind their backs. Unfortunately this will not happen here because Kean is totally devoid of any morals
Throughout the history of football, managers have resigned when signings were made behind their backs. Unfortunately this will not happen here because Kean is totally devoid of any morals janus1947

10:49am Thu 6 Sep 12

French Rover says...

Berg touting for the job? probbaly not, more likely he just wanted a few quid for some cheap throw-away comments. I don't think he is supporting Kean really? Surely not. But whatever, he isn't doing himself or the club any favours at all by being quoted on this. We have enough dirty (or at least quite grubby) washing on show at the moment thank you. Expect more ex-players to hold out there hands for money for quotes now...Offering their 'opinions'on Rovers business must be making some of them quite a few bob!
Berg touting for the job? probbaly not, more likely he just wanted a few quid for some cheap throw-away comments. I don't think he is supporting Kean really? Surely not. But whatever, he isn't doing himself or the club any favours at all by being quoted on this. We have enough dirty (or at least quite grubby) washing on show at the moment thank you. Expect more ex-players to hold out there hands for money for quotes now...Offering their 'opinions'on Rovers business must be making some of them quite a few bob! French Rover

10:58am Thu 6 Sep 12

r30vrs says...

Kean out, please!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kean out, please!!!!!!!!!!!!! r30vrs

10:58am Thu 6 Sep 12

MxMave says...

KEAN OUT
KEAN OUT MxMave

11:01am Thu 6 Sep 12

Road Runner Road Runner says...

French Rover wrote:
Berg touting for the job? probbaly not, more likely he just wanted a few quid for some cheap throw-away comments. I don't think he is supporting Kean really? Surely not. But whatever, he isn't doing himself or the club any favours at all by being quoted on this. We have enough dirty (or at least quite grubby) washing on show at the moment thank you. Expect more ex-players to hold out there hands for money for quotes now...Offering their 'opinions'on Rovers business must be making some of them quite a few bob!
Morning Mr French :)

We have sun, and then we have this fiasco !

Expect a spectacular fallout from this soon to played out for the whole world to see....

This is a story that will run and run. The BBC website deems it to be 2nd of importance on it's articles !

Signings above the odious one's head = resign on principle ?

Ah well, Bristol it is Mr French :)

Arte et labore
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: Berg touting for the job? probbaly not, more likely he just wanted a few quid for some cheap throw-away comments. I don't think he is supporting Kean really? Surely not. But whatever, he isn't doing himself or the club any favours at all by being quoted on this. We have enough dirty (or at least quite grubby) washing on show at the moment thank you. Expect more ex-players to hold out there hands for money for quotes now...Offering their 'opinions'on Rovers business must be making some of them quite a few bob![/p][/quote]Morning Mr French :) We have sun, and then we have this fiasco ! Expect a spectacular fallout from this soon to played out for the whole world to see.... This is a story that will run and run. The BBC website deems it to be 2nd of importance on it's articles ! Signings above the odious one's head = resign on principle ? Ah well, Bristol it is Mr French :) Arte et labore Road Runner Road Runner

11:04am Thu 6 Sep 12

StLedge says...

"Oh aye, those Portuguese players were Shebby's idea"

"Yes it was Shebby who brought in those players, I haven't seen them play; Shebby brought them in he did, Shebby"

"I realise my playing career wasn't very long or glorious, but that was Shebby's idea, Shebby said I should concentrate on my coaching badges"

"I had nothing to do with my mate Big Sam getting fired, that was Shebby's idea, he called my mate Big Sam a crook"

"Phil Jones, that was all me, nobody else had any input in to his entire life, that was all me!!!"

"The assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand, no that was Shebby's idea. He was the one that brought those Bosnians in, Shebby that was..."
"Oh aye, those Portuguese players were Shebby's idea" "Yes it was Shebby who brought in those players, I haven't seen them play; Shebby brought them in he did, Shebby" "I realise my playing career wasn't very long or glorious, but that was Shebby's idea, Shebby said I should concentrate on my coaching badges" "I had nothing to do with my mate Big Sam getting fired, that was Shebby's idea, he called my mate Big Sam a crook" "Phil Jones, that was all me, nobody else had any input in to his entire life, that was all me!!!" "The assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand, no that was Shebby's idea. He was the one that brought those Bosnians in, Shebby that was..." StLedge

11:04am Thu 6 Sep 12

inflightmagazine says...

bit of a nonsense some of this, shebby made a comment during the fans forum which clearly indicated he was bringing in the players, and it happens at a lot of clubs. Lots of professionals keep telling us steve Kean is a great coach, so Mr Berg having taken player recruitment of him he knows has less things to worry about and should be able to show us what a great coach he is.

As for not seeing them live , not sure what thats got to do with anything. I for one often see incident on the TV that if i was at the ground I would never see. Modern technology allows coaches and managers to observe players match performance from lots of different angles and perspectives, do i need to travel for 2 days to watch a player for 90 mins in the back of beyond , or would i be better watching 5 of his games via the internet or DVD in the sametime to get a better feel for them.

I think Mr Berg managers may have given you the impression in the past that the players brought in were their decision, but in reality its a board decision in a lot of clubs.


What concerns me here is the timing of this and the poor man management from Mr Kean here, how are these players meant to feel when he openly states " I did not want you" before they have even kicked a ball.

To be honest it says more about Mr Kean tah shebby ( A trier but clearly mad as a box of frogs) thinks he has a better idea about players. On the evidence of this years signings compared to last years hes not wrong.
bit of a nonsense some of this, shebby made a comment during the fans forum which clearly indicated he was bringing in the players, and it happens at a lot of clubs. Lots of professionals keep telling us steve Kean is a great coach, so Mr Berg having taken player recruitment of him he knows has less things to worry about and should be able to show us what a great coach he is. As for not seeing them live , not sure what thats got to do with anything. I for one often see incident on the TV that if i was at the ground I would never see. Modern technology allows coaches and managers to observe players match performance from lots of different angles and perspectives, do i need to travel for 2 days to watch a player for 90 mins in the back of beyond , or would i be better watching 5 of his games via the internet or DVD in the sametime to get a better feel for them. I think Mr Berg managers may have given you the impression in the past that the players brought in were their decision, but in reality its a board decision in a lot of clubs. What concerns me here is the timing of this and the poor man management from Mr Kean here, how are these players meant to feel when he openly states " I did not want you" before they have even kicked a ball. To be honest it says more about Mr Kean tah shebby ( A trier but clearly mad as a box of frogs) thinks he has a better idea about players. On the evidence of this years signings compared to last years hes not wrong. inflightmagazine

11:15am Thu 6 Sep 12

ronnie clayton says...

We need a defensive coach , we are a shambles at the back.
We need a defensive coach , we are a shambles at the back. ronnie clayton

11:16am Thu 6 Sep 12

lusorover says...

French Rover wrote:
Berg touting for the job? probbaly not, more likely he just wanted a few quid for some cheap throw-away comments. I don't think he is supporting Kean really? Surely not. But whatever, he isn't doing himself or the club any favours at all by being quoted on this. We have enough dirty (or at least quite grubby) washing on show at the moment thank you. Expect more ex-players to hold out there hands for money for quotes now...Offering their 'opinions'on Rovers business must be making some of them quite a few bob!
How wonderful it would be if Berg were in line for the job but I suspect there is little chance of that.

Berg will not have been paid for his comments. Managers and ex-managers like to keep their name in view and are given to offering their unsolicited views to this end.

The power balance is shifting away from Kean and his comments may well be aimed at garnering support from fellow managers who in the past have been ridiculous enough to express their 'admiration' of his 'dignity' and their sympathy for his 'plight'.

As RR RR comments there is going to be un moment critique in the near future and it will be very interesting to see how the land lies when the dust settles.
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: Berg touting for the job? probbaly not, more likely he just wanted a few quid for some cheap throw-away comments. I don't think he is supporting Kean really? Surely not. But whatever, he isn't doing himself or the club any favours at all by being quoted on this. We have enough dirty (or at least quite grubby) washing on show at the moment thank you. Expect more ex-players to hold out there hands for money for quotes now...Offering their 'opinions'on Rovers business must be making some of them quite a few bob![/p][/quote]How wonderful it would be if Berg were in line for the job but I suspect there is little chance of that. Berg will not have been paid for his comments. Managers and ex-managers like to keep their name in view and are given to offering their unsolicited views to this end. The power balance is shifting away from Kean and his comments may well be aimed at garnering support from fellow managers who in the past have been ridiculous enough to express their 'admiration' of his 'dignity' and their sympathy for his 'plight'. As RR RR comments there is going to be un moment critique in the near future and it will be very interesting to see how the land lies when the dust settles. lusorover

11:26am Thu 6 Sep 12

jogalot says...

"What concerns me here is the timing of this and the poor man management from Mr Kean here, how are these players meant to feel when he openly states " I did not want you" before they have even kicked a ball." inflightmagazine, I agree.

Kean is very noticeable for his poor timing, man management and loose talk that undermines his own players. The signs of someone who is only concerned about himself. Managing Rovers is an ego trip for shareholder Kean. KEAN OUT!

One more thing, do scouts get a wage? Have all the scouts been sacked to save on the wage bill?
"What concerns me here is the timing of this and the poor man management from Mr Kean here, how are these players meant to feel when he openly states " I did not want you" before they have even kicked a ball." inflightmagazine, I agree. Kean is very noticeable for his poor timing, man management and loose talk that undermines his own players. The signs of someone who is only concerned about himself. Managing Rovers is an ego trip for shareholder Kean. KEAN OUT! One more thing, do scouts get a wage? Have all the scouts been sacked to save on the wage bill? jogalot

11:33am Thu 6 Sep 12

londonrover says...

Slubberdegullion Kean!
Slubberdegullion Kean! londonrover

11:38am Thu 6 Sep 12

givet82 says...

This means alot more than people think, and once again reminds us especially the numpties singing Kean out every game that NO half decent manager would work under these conditions, the only reason Steve Kean is still here is because he is a highly paid yes man and won't rock the boat also no man with any respect would come to this farce. Worrying times at BRFC
This means alot more than people think, and once again reminds us especially the numpties singing Kean out every game that NO half decent manager would work under these conditions, the only reason Steve Kean is still here is because he is a highly paid yes man and won't rock the boat also no man with any respect would come to this farce. Worrying times at BRFC givet82

11:39am Thu 6 Sep 12

tiojo says...

Can the LET ask the club questions about any agent's fees paid for the signing of the Portuguese players?
Can the LET ask the club questions about any agent's fees paid for the signing of the Portuguese players? tiojo

11:40am Thu 6 Sep 12

kirky1020 says...

Okay so Keano "Chooses to sign" Murphy, Etuhu, Best and Rhodes in a combined fee of around £12-13mil.

Shebby goes out there and picks up a free former Portuguese international to add experience to striker force (one of our best signings in my opinion). Along with a host of other unknown young players for next to nothing and each one with good reason:

- Rosado - Free, apparantly wanted by liverpool and chelsea at points in time, Dunny has lost his legs so we could do with a replacement.

- Nunes - "nominal" - actually looks pretty good.

- Henrique - "nominal" - Keano wasn't going to sign a defensive player was he.

- Jorge, edinho, greg the goalie on loans and "nominal" fees.

I don't understand what he's whinging about, he got to make the main signings for the squad whilst Shebby generally brought in youngsters and loans for less than £1mil total.

NB. I also noticed the media going on about how we "splashed the cash" this summer, didn't we sell N'zonzi and Yakubu for about £5mil combined and expect to recieve somewhere between £4-6mil for Hoilett. By my Reckoning we have spent a maximum of £15mil (though we only paid £4mil of Rhodes up front so reduce that down to £11mil). Meaning..... oh wait we will break even this summer and expect £4mil to be syphoned off in the future to pay off the Rhodes debt. Not to mention the £12mil vanishing from Samba outside of a transfer window.
Okay so Keano "Chooses to sign" Murphy, Etuhu, Best and Rhodes in a combined fee of around £12-13mil. Shebby goes out there and picks up a free former Portuguese international to add experience to striker force (one of our best signings in my opinion). Along with a host of other unknown young players for next to nothing and each one with good reason: - Rosado - Free, apparantly wanted by liverpool and chelsea at points in time, Dunny has lost his legs so we could do with a replacement. - Nunes - "nominal" - actually looks pretty good. - Henrique - "nominal" - Keano wasn't going to sign a defensive player was he. - Jorge, edinho, greg the goalie on loans and "nominal" fees. I don't understand what he's whinging about, he got to make the main signings for the squad whilst Shebby generally brought in youngsters and loans for less than £1mil total. NB. I also noticed the media going on about how we "splashed the cash" this summer, didn't we sell N'zonzi and Yakubu for about £5mil combined and expect to recieve somewhere between £4-6mil for Hoilett. By my Reckoning we have spent a maximum of £15mil (though we only paid £4mil of Rhodes up front so reduce that down to £11mil). Meaning..... oh wait we will break even this summer and expect £4mil to be syphoned off in the future to pay off the Rhodes debt. Not to mention the £12mil vanishing from Samba outside of a transfer window. kirky1020

11:45am Thu 6 Sep 12

the_iconoclast says...

jogalot wrote:
"What concerns me here is the timing of this and the poor man management from Mr Kean here, how are these players meant to feel when he openly states " I did not want you" before they have even kicked a ball." inflightmagazine, I agree.

Kean is very noticeable for his poor timing, man management and loose talk that undermines his own players. The signs of someone who is only concerned about himself. Managing Rovers is an ego trip for shareholder Kean. KEAN OUT!

One more thing, do scouts get a wage? Have all the scouts been sacked to save on the wage bill?
When will you berks learn to absorb information adequately? To quote Steve Kean, "You can’t have too many good players." Please explain where Steve Kean openly states "I did not want you." What a bunch of sorry bel ends
[quote][p][bold]jogalot[/bold] wrote: "What concerns me here is the timing of this and the poor man management from Mr Kean here, how are these players meant to feel when he openly states " I did not want you" before they have even kicked a ball." inflightmagazine, I agree. Kean is very noticeable for his poor timing, man management and loose talk that undermines his own players. The signs of someone who is only concerned about himself. Managing Rovers is an ego trip for shareholder Kean. KEAN OUT! One more thing, do scouts get a wage? Have all the scouts been sacked to save on the wage bill?[/p][/quote]When will you berks learn to absorb information adequately? To quote Steve Kean, "You can’t have too many good players." Please explain where Steve Kean openly states "I did not want you." What a bunch of sorry bel ends the_iconoclast

11:55am Thu 6 Sep 12

inflightmagazine says...

the full quote is.

“Shebby Singh has identified these players. These players have been identified by Shebby, he has been very excited about the technical ability of these players. You can’t have too many good players."

If that does not read as Shebby picked you not me then I dont know what does.


And again we get another illiterate idiot that thinks they can come on here calling everybody every name uner the sun because they do not agree with there point of view. Grow up
the full quote is. “Shebby Singh has identified these players. These players have been identified by Shebby, he has been very excited about the technical ability of these players. You can’t have too many good players." If that does not read as Shebby picked you not me then I dont know what does. And again we get another illiterate idiot that thinks they can come on here calling everybody every name uner the sun because they do not agree with there point of view. Grow up inflightmagazine

11:57am Thu 6 Sep 12

dangerous dave says...

What an absolute shambles and laughing stock of te football world - Kean as said before not man enough to stand up to his true responsibilites just wants a great big fat pay packet like Hendry and the rest of the mob!!!!!!!
OUT WITH KEAN HENDRY AGNEW SINGH VENKYS IN WITH THOUSANDS OF FANS
What an absolute shambles and laughing stock of te football world - Kean as said before not man enough to stand up to his true responsibilites just wants a great big fat pay packet like Hendry and the rest of the mob!!!!!!! OUT WITH KEAN HENDRY AGNEW SINGH VENKYS IN WITH THOUSANDS OF FANS dangerous dave

12:06pm Thu 6 Sep 12

the_iconoclast says...

inflightmagazine wrote:
the full quote is.

“Shebby Singh has identified these players. These players have been identified by Shebby, he has been very excited about the technical ability of these players. You can’t have too many good players."

If that does not read as Shebby picked you not me then I dont know what does.


And again we get another illiterate idiot that thinks they can come on here calling everybody every name uner the sun because they do not agree with there point of view. Grow up
Moron sunshine. Basically if you read into it, essential points are; shebby picked the players, steve kean didnt, shebbys excited by these players, keans pleased because you cant have too many good players. Doesnt seem like theres an issue. Everyones happy.

To quote your earlier post: "What concerns me here is the timing of this and the poor man management from Mr Kean here, how are these players meant to feel when he openly states " I did not want you" before they have even kicked a ball."

Please explain where Kean says these players werent wanted by him. As far as im aware Keans happy to have as many good quality players as he or shebby can pull in.

Some people deserve to be called names. Wake up
[quote][p][bold]inflightmagazine[/bold] wrote: the full quote is. “Shebby Singh has identified these players. These players have been identified by Shebby, he has been very excited about the technical ability of these players. You can’t have too many good players." If that does not read as Shebby picked you not me then I dont know what does. And again we get another illiterate idiot that thinks they can come on here calling everybody every name uner the sun because they do not agree with there point of view. Grow up[/p][/quote]Moron sunshine. Basically if you read into it, essential points are; shebby picked the players, steve kean didnt, shebbys excited by these players, keans pleased because you cant have too many good players. Doesnt seem like theres an issue. Everyones happy. To quote your earlier post: "What concerns me here is the timing of this and the poor man management from Mr Kean here, how are these players meant to feel when he openly states " I did not want you" before they have even kicked a ball." Please explain where Kean says these players werent wanted by him. As far as im aware Keans happy to have as many good quality players as he or shebby can pull in. Some people deserve to be called names. Wake up the_iconoclast

12:09pm Thu 6 Sep 12

Lancs - pensioner says...

ronnie clayton wrote:
We need a defensive coach , we are a shambles at the back.
We already have one, his name is C. Hendry, if rumours are true he is on £8000 a week, this hopefully will help him pay of the pensioners he has ripped off though.

He has a part time chauffering job running Kean from pub to pub in St Annes,Oh and to Brockhall for the 1.5hours a day training.

We are not a shambles at the back, BRFC as a club are a COMPLETE shambles.

As for his actual job, check out the goals against column since he joined it looks pretty impressive dont you think?
[quote][p][bold]ronnie clayton[/bold] wrote: We need a defensive coach , we are a shambles at the back.[/p][/quote]We already have one, his name is C. Hendry, if rumours are true he is on £8000 a week, this hopefully will help him pay of the pensioners he has ripped off though. He has a part time chauffering job running Kean from pub to pub in St Annes,Oh and to Brockhall for the 1.5hours a day training. We are not a shambles at the back, BRFC as a club are a COMPLETE shambles. As for his actual job, check out the goals against column since he joined it looks pretty impressive dont you think? Lancs - pensioner

12:23pm Thu 6 Sep 12

CARover says...

It is not surprising SK has not seen the signings live as he lives in bubble and a vacuum of denial every day

It must be contagious as the owners do the same, oh for a leader with a clear vision who can tactically close out a game instead of scrapping for a draw after he has messed up the team selection and team management
It is not surprising SK has not seen the signings live as he lives in bubble and a vacuum of denial every day It must be contagious as the owners do the same, oh for a leader with a clear vision who can tactically close out a game instead of scrapping for a draw after he has messed up the team selection and team management CARover

12:23pm Thu 6 Sep 12

chegwin says...

STEVE KEAN , did he identify Simon Vukivic? Myles Anderson? Petrovic?
I doubt very much he saw these players.
STEVE KEAN , did he identify Simon Vukivic? Myles Anderson? Petrovic? I doubt very much he saw these players. chegwin

12:25pm Thu 6 Sep 12

inflightmagazine says...

ok in simple terms , when write my list to farther xmas and i open my presents on christmas day, i will hopefully get some of the things i wanted and there will be a few susprises. When some one asks me what I got and I say a pair of flashing green socks my wife chose them for me and you can never have too many socks, we all know what I mean.

Kean never made a request for these players, therefore he did not want them.

I am not saying he does not want them now. The whole point is why on earth does he feel the need to tell players that someone else brought them in and hes never seen them play, poor man mangement by anyones standards.
ok in simple terms , when write my list to farther xmas and i open my presents on christmas day, i will hopefully get some of the things i wanted and there will be a few susprises. When some one asks me what I got and I say a pair of flashing green socks my wife chose them for me and you can never have too many socks, we all know what I mean. Kean never made a request for these players, therefore he did not want them. I am not saying he does not want them now. The whole point is why on earth does he feel the need to tell players that someone else brought them in and hes never seen them play, poor man mangement by anyones standards. inflightmagazine

12:35pm Thu 6 Sep 12

French Rover says...

Road Runner Road Runner wrote:
French Rover wrote:
Berg touting for the job? probbaly not, more likely he just wanted a few quid for some cheap throw-away comments. I don't think he is supporting Kean really? Surely not. But whatever, he isn't doing himself or the club any favours at all by being quoted on this. We have enough dirty (or at least quite grubby) washing on show at the moment thank you. Expect more ex-players to hold out there hands for money for quotes now...Offering their 'opinions'on Rovers business must be making some of them quite a few bob!
Morning Mr French :)

We have sun, and then we have this fiasco !

Expect a spectacular fallout from this soon to played out for the whole world to see....

This is a story that will run and run. The BBC website deems it to be 2nd of importance on it's articles !

Signings above the odious one's head = resign on principle ?

Ah well, Bristol it is Mr French :)

Arte et labore
see you there RR....all ship shape and Bristol fashion......three points to make all (seem) well again.
[quote][p][bold]Road Runner Road Runner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: Berg touting for the job? probbaly not, more likely he just wanted a few quid for some cheap throw-away comments. I don't think he is supporting Kean really? Surely not. But whatever, he isn't doing himself or the club any favours at all by being quoted on this. We have enough dirty (or at least quite grubby) washing on show at the moment thank you. Expect more ex-players to hold out there hands for money for quotes now...Offering their 'opinions'on Rovers business must be making some of them quite a few bob![/p][/quote]Morning Mr French :) We have sun, and then we have this fiasco ! Expect a spectacular fallout from this soon to played out for the whole world to see.... This is a story that will run and run. The BBC website deems it to be 2nd of importance on it's articles ! Signings above the odious one's head = resign on principle ? Ah well, Bristol it is Mr French :) Arte et labore[/p][/quote]see you there RR....all ship shape and Bristol fashion......three points to make all (seem) well again. French Rover

12:35pm Thu 6 Sep 12

bburnrover says...

Kean is obviouslt protecting himself as usual from the fall out when it all goes pear shaped.

I hope these signings prove to be great so Shebby can say his signing are much better than those Kean brought in last year.I cannot see any of them being selected though as Kean wouldnt want Shebby to look good as he hates him.
Kean is obviouslt protecting himself as usual from the fall out when it all goes pear shaped. I hope these signings prove to be great so Shebby can say his signing are much better than those Kean brought in last year.I cannot see any of them being selected though as Kean wouldnt want Shebby to look good as he hates him. bburnrover

12:42pm Thu 6 Sep 12

benal13 says...

the_iconoclast wrote:
inflightmagazine wrote:
the full quote is.

“Shebby Singh has identified these players. These players have been identified by Shebby, he has been very excited about the technical ability of these players. You can’t have too many good players."

If that does not read as Shebby picked you not me then I dont know what does.


And again we get another illiterate idiot that thinks they can come on here calling everybody every name uner the sun because they do not agree with there point of view. Grow up
Moron sunshine. Basically if you read into it, essential points are; shebby picked the players, steve kean didnt, shebbys excited by these players, keans pleased because you cant have too many good players. Doesnt seem like theres an issue. Everyones happy.

To quote your earlier post: "What concerns me here is the timing of this and the poor man management from Mr Kean here, how are these players meant to feel when he openly states " I did not want you" before they have even kicked a ball."

Please explain where Kean says these players werent wanted by him. As far as im aware Keans happy to have as many good quality players as he or shebby can pull in.

Some people deserve to be called names. Wake up
as you say in your last paragraph some people deserve to be called names ********* **** **** *** ******* **** ***** ** **** *** ****** ** ******* ***** **** *** i think thats about it but i bet its gets censored IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]the_iconoclast[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inflightmagazine[/bold] wrote: the full quote is. “Shebby Singh has identified these players. These players have been identified by Shebby, he has been very excited about the technical ability of these players. You can’t have too many good players." If that does not read as Shebby picked you not me then I dont know what does. And again we get another illiterate idiot that thinks they can come on here calling everybody every name uner the sun because they do not agree with there point of view. Grow up[/p][/quote]Moron sunshine. Basically if you read into it, essential points are; shebby picked the players, steve kean didnt, shebbys excited by these players, keans pleased because you cant have too many good players. Doesnt seem like theres an issue. Everyones happy. To quote your earlier post: "What concerns me here is the timing of this and the poor man management from Mr Kean here, how are these players meant to feel when he openly states " I did not want you" before they have even kicked a ball." Please explain where Kean says these players werent wanted by him. As far as im aware Keans happy to have as many good quality players as he or shebby can pull in. Some people deserve to be called names. Wake up[/p][/quote]as you say in your last paragraph some people deserve to be called names ********* **** **** *** ******* **** ***** ** **** *** ****** ** ******* ***** **** *** i think thats about it but i bet its gets censored IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!! benal13

12:45pm Thu 6 Sep 12

ronnie clayton says...

Lancs - pensioner wrote:
ronnie clayton wrote:
We need a defensive coach , we are a shambles at the back.
We already have one, his name is C. Hendry, if rumours are true he is on £8000 a week, this hopefully will help him pay of the pensioners he has ripped off though.

He has a part time chauffering job running Kean from pub to pub in St Annes,Oh and to Brockhall for the 1.5hours a day training.

We are not a shambles at the back, BRFC as a club are a COMPLETE shambles.

As for his actual job, check out the goals against column since he joined it looks pretty impressive dont you think?
Lancs Pensioner, think you`ll find Hendry wont be paying the pensioners back a penny from the life savings he swindled them out of , as Hendry said earlier , he does not have to, he went bankrupt ,so all debts are gone , the pensioners get lumped in with the 1.5 million he owes the tax man,so from now on all his 8,000 pounds a week is his for himself to gamble
[quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ronnie clayton[/bold] wrote: We need a defensive coach , we are a shambles at the back.[/p][/quote]We already have one, his name is C. Hendry, if rumours are true he is on £8000 a week, this hopefully will help him pay of the pensioners he has ripped off though. He has a part time chauffering job running Kean from pub to pub in St Annes,Oh and to Brockhall for the 1.5hours a day training. We are not a shambles at the back, BRFC as a club are a COMPLETE shambles. As for his actual job, check out the goals against column since he joined it looks pretty impressive dont you think?[/p][/quote]Lancs Pensioner, think you`ll find Hendry wont be paying the pensioners back a penny from the life savings he swindled them out of , as Hendry said earlier , he does not have to, he went bankrupt ,so all debts are gone , the pensioners get lumped in with the 1.5 million he owes the tax man,so from now on all his 8,000 pounds a week is his for himself to gamble ronnie clayton

12:58pm Thu 6 Sep 12

Lancs - pensioner says...

ronnie clayton wrote:
Lancs - pensioner wrote:
ronnie clayton wrote:
We need a defensive coach , we are a shambles at the back.
We already have one, his name is C. Hendry, if rumours are true he is on £8000 a week, this hopefully will help him pay of the pensioners he has ripped off though.

He has a part time chauffering job running Kean from pub to pub in St Annes,Oh and to Brockhall for the 1.5hours a day training.

We are not a shambles at the back, BRFC as a club are a COMPLETE shambles.

As for his actual job, check out the goals against column since he joined it looks pretty impressive dont you think?
Lancs Pensioner, think you`ll find Hendry wont be paying the pensioners back a penny from the life savings he swindled them out of , as Hendry said earlier , he does not have to, he went bankrupt ,so all debts are gone , the pensioners get lumped in with the 1.5 million he owes the tax man,so from now on all his 8,000 pounds a week is his for himself to gamble
Hi RC
To say we once had nice and relatively successful family club and now its come to this it beggers belief.

Owners - useless

Manager - useless

Defencive coach - useless

The funny thing is we are second in the Chumpionship, just think what we could achieve with if we got rid of all three of the above.

Kean out, Henry out

10,000 fans back in!!
[quote][p][bold]ronnie clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ronnie clayton[/bold] wrote: We need a defensive coach , we are a shambles at the back.[/p][/quote]We already have one, his name is C. Hendry, if rumours are true he is on £8000 a week, this hopefully will help him pay of the pensioners he has ripped off though. He has a part time chauffering job running Kean from pub to pub in St Annes,Oh and to Brockhall for the 1.5hours a day training. We are not a shambles at the back, BRFC as a club are a COMPLETE shambles. As for his actual job, check out the goals against column since he joined it looks pretty impressive dont you think?[/p][/quote]Lancs Pensioner, think you`ll find Hendry wont be paying the pensioners back a penny from the life savings he swindled them out of , as Hendry said earlier , he does not have to, he went bankrupt ,so all debts are gone , the pensioners get lumped in with the 1.5 million he owes the tax man,so from now on all his 8,000 pounds a week is his for himself to gamble[/p][/quote]Hi RC To say we once had nice and relatively successful family club and now its come to this it beggers belief. Owners - useless Manager - useless Defencive coach - useless The funny thing is we are second in the Chumpionship, just think what we could achieve with if we got rid of all three of the above. Kean out, Henry out 10,000 fans back in!! Lancs - pensioner

1:03pm Thu 6 Sep 12

the_iconoclast says...

inflightmagazine wrote:
ok in simple terms , when write my list to farther xmas and i open my presents on christmas day, i will hopefully get some of the things i wanted and there will be a few susprises. When some one asks me what I got and I say a pair of flashing green socks my wife chose them for me and you can never have too many socks, we all know what I mean.

Kean never made a request for these players, therefore he did not want them.

I am not saying he does not want them now. The whole point is why on earth does he feel the need to tell players that someone else brought them in and hes never seen them play, poor man mangement by anyones standards.
Honesty perhaps? Hes in a lose lose situation really even when hes winning. Personally I think this has been blown way out of proportion. This method of acquiring players happens at clubs all the time, particularly continentally. He hasnt seen them play so he doesnt know whether hes got a pair of flashing green socks or a rolls royce yet, only time will tell. We havent spent much money on these 3 anyway so its not much of a gamble. From what I understand rosado is a good player, sandomierski is alright and nuno henrique isnt up to much. Going public is unusual but when asked the question what do you do, lie? I really dont see that these 3 will have an issue with keans honesty even if the "supporters" do, however thats not surprising. Its more likely to reduce the pressure on them as unlike with the hype around 8million rhodes whos expected to hit the ground running, these 3 are unknown quantities, the manager isnt exactly expecting 3 world beaters, he'll embrace these lads, train with them, see what theyre about and should they prove to be good players well you cant have enough of those.
[quote][p][bold]inflightmagazine[/bold] wrote: ok in simple terms , when write my list to farther xmas and i open my presents on christmas day, i will hopefully get some of the things i wanted and there will be a few susprises. When some one asks me what I got and I say a pair of flashing green socks my wife chose them for me and you can never have too many socks, we all know what I mean. Kean never made a request for these players, therefore he did not want them. I am not saying he does not want them now. The whole point is why on earth does he feel the need to tell players that someone else brought them in and hes never seen them play, poor man mangement by anyones standards.[/p][/quote]Honesty perhaps? Hes in a lose lose situation really even when hes winning. Personally I think this has been blown way out of proportion. This method of acquiring players happens at clubs all the time, particularly continentally. He hasnt seen them play so he doesnt know whether hes got a pair of flashing green socks or a rolls royce yet, only time will tell. We havent spent much money on these 3 anyway so its not much of a gamble. From what I understand rosado is a good player, sandomierski is alright and nuno henrique isnt up to much. Going public is unusual but when asked the question what do you do, lie? I really dont see that these 3 will have an issue with keans honesty even if the "supporters" do, however thats not surprising. Its more likely to reduce the pressure on them as unlike with the hype around 8million rhodes whos expected to hit the ground running, these 3 are unknown quantities, the manager isnt exactly expecting 3 world beaters, he'll embrace these lads, train with them, see what theyre about and should they prove to be good players well you cant have enough of those. the_iconoclast

2:01pm Thu 6 Sep 12

Londonrover24k says...

KEAN VS SHEBBY -WHO'S SIDE ARE YOU ON ?.
SHEBBY ALL THE WAY FOR ME.
KEAN VS SHEBBY -WHO'S SIDE ARE YOU ON ?. SHEBBY ALL THE WAY FOR ME. Londonrover24k

2:18pm Thu 6 Sep 12

Nuttall Street says...

Venkys are a laughing stock. They have given Shabby authority to sign players and you can be certain that Kean will not play anyone Shabby has signed. These 3 will not play while Kean is at BRFC and he is making it known. Over to you Venkys.
By what right have Venkys license to wreck the fans club in this way? I am so glad it is not my ST money that is being thrown away in this manner. No way will BRFC gonup with Venkys in charge. They are worse owners than the Adams Family.
Venkys are a laughing stock. They have given Shabby authority to sign players and you can be certain that Kean will not play anyone Shabby has signed. These 3 will not play while Kean is at BRFC and he is making it known. Over to you Venkys. By what right have Venkys license to wreck the fans club in this way? I am so glad it is not my ST money that is being thrown away in this manner. No way will BRFC gonup with Venkys in charge. They are worse owners than the Adams Family. Nuttall Street

2:19pm Thu 6 Sep 12

eddie the eagle says...

When asked earlier about signing all the portugese players Kean said Portugal was an untapped source of talent,he made no mention of not having seen them play.N ow having seen them and realising there is no glory to be had he distances himself from signing them at a time when Shebby is away.
I am surmising his reasons and once again finding him to be at fault because so far he has given me no cause to do anything else.He is an odious man who buys friends and like a lonely schoolboy builds his part in everything that occurs notice he says he will train them hard to bring them up to standard.So far I can't see that he has improved any player so far.
One thing that worries me is that shebby likes to dabble in management and might think he could do Keans job.
When asked earlier about signing all the portugese players Kean said Portugal was an untapped source of talent,he made no mention of not having seen them play.N ow having seen them and realising there is no glory to be had he distances himself from signing them at a time when Shebby is away. I am surmising his reasons and once again finding him to be at fault because so far he has given me no cause to do anything else.He is an odious man who buys friends and like a lonely schoolboy builds his part in everything that occurs notice he says he will train them hard to bring them up to standard.So far I can't see that he has improved any player so far. One thing that worries me is that shebby likes to dabble in management and might think he could do Keans job. eddie the eagle

2:19pm Thu 6 Sep 12

Nuttall Street says...

Londonrover24k wrote:
KEAN VS SHEBBY -WHO'S SIDE ARE YOU ON ?.
SHEBBY ALL THE WAY FOR ME.
With all due respect that is like asking who is your favourite politician, Hitler or Stalin!
[quote][p][bold]Londonrover24k[/bold] wrote: KEAN VS SHEBBY -WHO'S SIDE ARE YOU ON ?. SHEBBY ALL THE WAY FOR ME.[/p][/quote]With all due respect that is like asking who is your favourite politician, Hitler or Stalin! Nuttall Street

2:26pm Thu 6 Sep 12

inflightmagazine says...

now thats an interesting mix, stalin had a pact with hitler until he invaded in 1941, stalin then helped get rid of hitler by joining up with the allies, then died himself in 1953. now theres a plan..
now thats an interesting mix, stalin had a pact with hitler until he invaded in 1941, stalin then helped get rid of hitler by joining up with the allies, then died himself in 1953. now theres a plan.. inflightmagazine

2:40pm Thu 6 Sep 12

Capatain Sensible says...

Have I missed an article in the LT where i informed us that two directors of BRFC have resigned, and Ken Beamish has "retired"
Have I missed an article in the LT where i informed us that two directors of BRFC have resigned, and Ken Beamish has "retired" Capatain Sensible

2:42pm Thu 6 Sep 12

Capatain Sensible says...

This should read " LT where it informed" etc
This should read " LT where it informed" etc Capatain Sensible

2:55pm Thu 6 Sep 12

Rover since 1947 says...

the_iconoclast wrote:
inflightmagazine wrote:
ok in simple terms , when write my list to farther xmas and i open my presents on christmas day, i will hopefully get some of the things i wanted and there will be a few susprises. When some one asks me what I got and I say a pair of flashing green socks my wife chose them for me and you can never have too many socks, we all know what I mean.

Kean never made a request for these players, therefore he did not want them.

I am not saying he does not want them now. The whole point is why on earth does he feel the need to tell players that someone else brought them in and hes never seen them play, poor man mangement by anyones standards.
Honesty perhaps? Hes in a lose lose situation really even when hes winning. Personally I think this has been blown way out of proportion. This method of acquiring players happens at clubs all the time, particularly continentally. He hasnt seen them play so he doesnt know whether hes got a pair of flashing green socks or a rolls royce yet, only time will tell. We havent spent much money on these 3 anyway so its not much of a gamble. From what I understand rosado is a good player, sandomierski is alright and nuno henrique isnt up to much. Going public is unusual but when asked the question what do you do, lie? I really dont see that these 3 will have an issue with keans honesty even if the "supporters" do, however thats not surprising. Its more likely to reduce the pressure on them as unlike with the hype around 8million rhodes whos expected to hit the ground running, these 3 are unknown quantities, the manager isnt exactly expecting 3 world beaters, he'll embrace these lads, train with them, see what theyre about and should they prove to be good players well you cant have enough of those.
"Keans honesty"? Never thought I'd see those two words together
[quote][p][bold]the_iconoclast[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inflightmagazine[/bold] wrote: ok in simple terms , when write my list to farther xmas and i open my presents on christmas day, i will hopefully get some of the things i wanted and there will be a few susprises. When some one asks me what I got and I say a pair of flashing green socks my wife chose them for me and you can never have too many socks, we all know what I mean. Kean never made a request for these players, therefore he did not want them. I am not saying he does not want them now. The whole point is why on earth does he feel the need to tell players that someone else brought them in and hes never seen them play, poor man mangement by anyones standards.[/p][/quote]Honesty perhaps? Hes in a lose lose situation really even when hes winning. Personally I think this has been blown way out of proportion. This method of acquiring players happens at clubs all the time, particularly continentally. He hasnt seen them play so he doesnt know whether hes got a pair of flashing green socks or a rolls royce yet, only time will tell. We havent spent much money on these 3 anyway so its not much of a gamble. From what I understand rosado is a good player, sandomierski is alright and nuno henrique isnt up to much. Going public is unusual but when asked the question what do you do, lie? I really dont see that these 3 will have an issue with keans honesty even if the "supporters" do, however thats not surprising. Its more likely to reduce the pressure on them as unlike with the hype around 8million rhodes whos expected to hit the ground running, these 3 are unknown quantities, the manager isnt exactly expecting 3 world beaters, he'll embrace these lads, train with them, see what theyre about and should they prove to be good players well you cant have enough of those.[/p][/quote]"Keans honesty"? Never thought I'd see those two words together Rover since 1947

3:54pm Thu 6 Sep 12

RUinsane says...

kirky1020 wrote:
Okay so Keano "Chooses to sign" Murphy, Etuhu, Best and Rhodes in a combined fee of around £12-13mil.

Shebby goes out there and picks up a free former Portuguese international to add experience to striker force (one of our best signings in my opinion). Along with a host of other unknown young players for next to nothing and each one with good reason:

- Rosado - Free, apparantly wanted by liverpool and chelsea at points in time, Dunny has lost his legs so we could do with a replacement.

- Nunes - "nominal" - actually looks pretty good.

- Henrique - "nominal" - Keano wasn't going to sign a defensive player was he.

- Jorge, edinho, greg the goalie on loans and "nominal" fees.

I don't understand what he's whinging about, he got to make the main signings for the squad whilst Shebby generally brought in youngsters and loans for less than £1mil total.

NB. I also noticed the media going on about how we "splashed the cash" this summer, didn't we sell N'zonzi and Yakubu for about £5mil combined and expect to recieve somewhere between £4-6mil for Hoilett. By my Reckoning we have spent a maximum of £15mil (though we only paid £4mil of Rhodes up front so reduce that down to £11mil). Meaning..... oh wait we will break even this summer and expect £4mil to be syphoned off in the future to pay off the Rhodes debt. Not to mention the £12mil vanishing from Samba outside of a transfer window.
Seems you forgot about the Samba fee, which we couldn't spend as the transfer window had shut so that should be another 8 million available if you take out Herthas 25% sell on. So in reality, they haven't splashed out anything and are running on petrol fumes from when the walkers lasted filled it up.
[quote][p][bold]kirky1020[/bold] wrote: Okay so Keano "Chooses to sign" Murphy, Etuhu, Best and Rhodes in a combined fee of around £12-13mil. Shebby goes out there and picks up a free former Portuguese international to add experience to striker force (one of our best signings in my opinion). Along with a host of other unknown young players for next to nothing and each one with good reason: - Rosado - Free, apparantly wanted by liverpool and chelsea at points in time, Dunny has lost his legs so we could do with a replacement. - Nunes - "nominal" - actually looks pretty good. - Henrique - "nominal" - Keano wasn't going to sign a defensive player was he. - Jorge, edinho, greg the goalie on loans and "nominal" fees. I don't understand what he's whinging about, he got to make the main signings for the squad whilst Shebby generally brought in youngsters and loans for less than £1mil total. NB. I also noticed the media going on about how we "splashed the cash" this summer, didn't we sell N'zonzi and Yakubu for about £5mil combined and expect to recieve somewhere between £4-6mil for Hoilett. By my Reckoning we have spent a maximum of £15mil (though we only paid £4mil of Rhodes up front so reduce that down to £11mil). Meaning..... oh wait we will break even this summer and expect £4mil to be syphoned off in the future to pay off the Rhodes debt. Not to mention the £12mil vanishing from Samba outside of a transfer window.[/p][/quote]Seems you forgot about the Samba fee, which we couldn't spend as the transfer window had shut so that should be another 8 million available if you take out Herthas 25% sell on. So in reality, they haven't splashed out anything and are running on petrol fumes from when the walkers lasted filled it up. RUinsane

3:56pm Thu 6 Sep 12

RUinsane says...

RUinsane wrote:
kirky1020 wrote:
Okay so Keano "Chooses to sign" Murphy, Etuhu, Best and Rhodes in a combined fee of around £12-13mil.

Shebby goes out there and picks up a free former Portuguese international to add experience to striker force (one of our best signings in my opinion). Along with a host of other unknown young players for next to nothing and each one with good reason:

- Rosado - Free, apparantly wanted by liverpool and chelsea at points in time, Dunny has lost his legs so we could do with a replacement.

- Nunes - "nominal" - actually looks pretty good.

- Henrique - "nominal" - Keano wasn't going to sign a defensive player was he.

- Jorge, edinho, greg the goalie on loans and "nominal" fees.

I don't understand what he's whinging about, he got to make the main signings for the squad whilst Shebby generally brought in youngsters and loans for less than £1mil total.

NB. I also noticed the media going on about how we "splashed the cash" this summer, didn't we sell N'zonzi and Yakubu for about £5mil combined and expect to recieve somewhere between £4-6mil for Hoilett. By my Reckoning we have spent a maximum of £15mil (though we only paid £4mil of Rhodes up front so reduce that down to £11mil). Meaning..... oh wait we will break even this summer and expect £4mil to be syphoned off in the future to pay off the Rhodes debt. Not to mention the £12mil vanishing from Samba outside of a transfer window.
Seems you forgot about the Samba fee, which we couldn't spend as the transfer window had shut so that should be another 8 million available if you take out Herthas 25% sell on. So in reality, they haven't splashed out anything and are running on petrol fumes from when the walkers lasted filled it up.
Sorry Kirky I hadn't read your last sentence, :0)
[quote][p][bold]RUinsane[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kirky1020[/bold] wrote: Okay so Keano "Chooses to sign" Murphy, Etuhu, Best and Rhodes in a combined fee of around £12-13mil. Shebby goes out there and picks up a free former Portuguese international to add experience to striker force (one of our best signings in my opinion). Along with a host of other unknown young players for next to nothing and each one with good reason: - Rosado - Free, apparantly wanted by liverpool and chelsea at points in time, Dunny has lost his legs so we could do with a replacement. - Nunes - "nominal" - actually looks pretty good. - Henrique - "nominal" - Keano wasn't going to sign a defensive player was he. - Jorge, edinho, greg the goalie on loans and "nominal" fees. I don't understand what he's whinging about, he got to make the main signings for the squad whilst Shebby generally brought in youngsters and loans for less than £1mil total. NB. I also noticed the media going on about how we "splashed the cash" this summer, didn't we sell N'zonzi and Yakubu for about £5mil combined and expect to recieve somewhere between £4-6mil for Hoilett. By my Reckoning we have spent a maximum of £15mil (though we only paid £4mil of Rhodes up front so reduce that down to £11mil). Meaning..... oh wait we will break even this summer and expect £4mil to be syphoned off in the future to pay off the Rhodes debt. Not to mention the £12mil vanishing from Samba outside of a transfer window.[/p][/quote]Seems you forgot about the Samba fee, which we couldn't spend as the transfer window had shut so that should be another 8 million available if you take out Herthas 25% sell on. So in reality, they haven't splashed out anything and are running on petrol fumes from when the walkers lasted filled it up.[/p][/quote]Sorry Kirky I hadn't read your last sentence, :0) RUinsane

4:12pm Thu 6 Sep 12

RUinsane says...

It seems the chancers statement from yesterday is paying dividends already. The, I haven't even seen them, has generated support already from the media whore agent puppets. Lets feel sorry for Keanochio as jepetto is the one pulling the strings.
NO WAY, I'm glad this moron isn't in charge of signings, has he had a successful one yet, mr Genius steve kean, footballing leg end.
Last night I remembered the con man who fooled Gareme souness, Ali Dia who said he was a senegalese international and fooled souness by ringing him up pretending he was Georgi Weah's cousin when in fact he was a lying chancer and Weah never even knew him. He actually played for 43 minutes in a premier league game.
Everyone knows the story, but that isn't the scary part. The scary part of the whole story was when I looked up Ali Dia the lying con man chancer up on Wikipedia, he actually played more games than Kean. Kean played less games than this con man at a professinal level. Has anyone actually asked his former clubs if they remember him? Or is he another Gordon con man Ramsay who never had the ability, ever, but relies on being a con man chancer?
SCARY STUFF.
Is Kean or has Kean ever been a professional footballer? Thats the question I would like andy cryer to ask his former clubs. Did they pay him or is he like that guy on the end of the Man U Champions league photo?
It seems the chancers statement from yesterday is paying dividends already. The, I haven't even seen them, has generated support already from the media whore agent puppets. Lets feel sorry for Keanochio as jepetto is the one pulling the strings. NO WAY, I'm glad this moron isn't in charge of signings, has he had a successful one yet, mr Genius steve kean, footballing leg end. Last night I remembered the con man who fooled Gareme souness, Ali Dia who said he was a senegalese international and fooled souness by ringing him up pretending he was Georgi Weah's cousin when in fact he was a lying chancer and Weah never even knew him. He actually played for 43 minutes in a premier league game. Everyone knows the story, but that isn't the scary part. The scary part of the whole story was when I looked up Ali Dia the lying con man chancer up on Wikipedia, he actually played more games than Kean. Kean played less games than this con man at a professinal level. Has anyone actually asked his former clubs if they remember him? Or is he another Gordon con man Ramsay who never had the ability, ever, but relies on being a con man chancer? SCARY STUFF. Is Kean or has Kean ever been a professional footballer? Thats the question I would like andy cryer to ask his former clubs. Did they pay him or is he like that guy on the end of the Man U Champions league photo? RUinsane

4:15pm Thu 6 Sep 12

wampam says...

The laughing stock that is Kean is becoming desperate. Oh,and he's a liar as well. Poor lads whohave come in won't be very happy unless they have been told his days are numbered. More pressure please Mr Singh. I suspect Hendry asked Berg,a former teamate to put something out mediawise to assist his crooked boss. Like I said,smacks of desperation to me.The liar is only clinging on because of a bit of luck on the pitch. Can't wait till he's shafted. Kean sacked 8k back !
The laughing stock that is Kean is becoming desperate. Oh,and he's a liar as well. Poor lads whohave come in won't be very happy unless they have been told his days are numbered. More pressure please Mr Singh. I suspect Hendry asked Berg,a former teamate to put something out mediawise to assist his crooked boss. Like I said,smacks of desperation to me.The liar is only clinging on because of a bit of luck on the pitch. Can't wait till he's shafted. Kean sacked 8k back ! wampam

4:36pm Thu 6 Sep 12

Reg Rover says...

CRYER BLASTS KEAN ON TALK SPORT RADIO
Whilst relaxing at home last Thursday (30th August) I had Talk Sport radio switched on in the back ground.
Imagine my surprise when presenter Jason Cundy announced that their special guest that evening was to be none other than the Lancashire Telegraphs Andy Cryer to discuss all things Blackburn Rovers prompted by the day’s news that Jason Rhodes had signed for the Rovers at a fee of £8 million, a record between two Championship teams. Rovers barely merit a mention on this National Radio station let alone being the night’s main topic. So I eagerly awaited Cryer’s arrival with excited anticipation. Cryer didn’t disappoint.
With the programme heading towards midnight I presume most Rovers fans will have missed what Cryer (pic above) had to say, let me enlighten you.
Asked about the Jason Rhodes transfer and fee, which amazed presenter Crundy (a former Chelsea player) Cryer said he thought it was a “last throw of the dice by Mrs Anuradha Desai to save Kean his job and get Rovers back into the Premiership” , although Cryer went on to say he thought Kean (was not the man for that job and that a great opportunity was lost in May when Rovers should of made a change and started the season with a new man in charge creating a new impetus at Ewood. This had led to the fans deserting Ewood Park in their thousands”.
Presenter Jason Cundy suggested that the Rovers fans were ill advised to carry on their protest at Kean’s management and should now get behind him. Cryer retorted “not so, what you have to remember” said Cryer “is that no manager in football league history has survived in his job for so long with a such bad record as Kean. “ Rovers fans know he is not up to his job and now have deserted the club in droves.” With gates of barely 13,500 at both opening home games, down by almost 50% from the Allardyce era, even taking into consideration the loss of Premiership football, it is amazing”.
Cryer went on to point out to Cundy that Rovers fans were no different from anyone else. Giving Liverpool fans as an example when they wanted rid of Roy Hodgson. Their protest lasted no more than a week or two over a handful of games and then Hodgson was gone. “Rovers fans have been totally ignored and treated with contempt by Mrs Anuradha Desai and they have now had enough and will not return whilst Kean is at the club in his £1.3 million pound job, no matter what League position he obtains or what players he signs the damage is done” said Cryer.
Asked if he thought Kean’s Job was in danger Cryer Replied “it should be, for him to fail now after major capital investment in the team is unthinkable, (no less than 12 new players) Cryer went on to reveal that Rovers have at least 6, and possibly more players on £35,000 per week. Unheard off outside the Premiership and a massive wage bill” that Cryer does not think is sustainable without large attendances. The whole tone of Andy Cryer’s interview was anti-Kean and Venky’s, he sounded much more disillusioned speaking than he does in print.
Presenter Jason Cundy asked what Cryer considered to be the minimum expectation from the Rovers for Kean to keep his job. Cryer replied “a top two finish and never out of the top 6 at any stage of the season, anything less, given the backing he has received would be failure and Desai could not possibly continue to justify keeping Kean in employ”.
Jason Cundy ventured to say that Cryer came over more as a fan than a journalist. Andy Cryer then revealed that he comes from Bristol, and that Bristol City is his club. But he has grown to love Blackburn and it’s football team and now feels a part of it and wants the Rovers to rise again just as any fan does.
Andy Cryer, has obviously during the course of his job, worked closely with Steve Kean since Kean took over from Allardyce in December 2010. It is obvious that Cryer does not hold Kean in high regard (but we knew that already through his Lancashire Telegraph column) hearing him and the tone of his voice on live radio was however different and put a different complex on matters. Somewhere on the way the professional relationship between Cryer and Kean has broken down, but that is par for the course with Kean.
Finally presenter Cundy questioned why the Venky’s had not invested this type of money into the team when they were still in the Premiership? Cryer’s reply “it is a mystery, but I don’t think Kean is the right man to receive and handle this type of investment”.
AND SO SAY ALL OF US..
Reg
CRYER BLASTS KEAN ON TALK SPORT RADIO Whilst relaxing at home last Thursday (30th August) I had Talk Sport radio switched on in the back ground. Imagine my surprise when presenter Jason Cundy announced that their special guest that evening was to be none other than the Lancashire Telegraphs Andy Cryer to discuss all things Blackburn Rovers prompted by the day’s news that Jason Rhodes had signed for the Rovers at a fee of £8 million, a record between two Championship teams. Rovers barely merit a mention on this National Radio station let alone being the night’s main topic. So I eagerly awaited Cryer’s arrival with excited anticipation. Cryer didn’t disappoint. With the programme heading towards midnight I presume most Rovers fans will have missed what Cryer (pic above) had to say, let me enlighten you. Asked about the Jason Rhodes transfer and fee, which amazed presenter Crundy (a former Chelsea player) Cryer said he thought it was a “last throw of the dice by Mrs Anuradha Desai to save Kean his job and get Rovers back into the Premiership” , although Cryer went on to say he thought Kean (was not the man for that job and that a great opportunity was lost in May when Rovers should of made a change and started the season with a new man in charge creating a new impetus at Ewood. This had led to the fans deserting Ewood Park in their thousands”. Presenter Jason Cundy suggested that the Rovers fans were ill advised to carry on their protest at Kean’s management and should now get behind him. Cryer retorted “not so, what you have to remember” said Cryer “is that no manager in football league history has survived in his job for so long with a such bad record as Kean. “ Rovers fans know he is not up to his job and now have deserted the club in droves.” With gates of barely 13,500 at both opening home games, down by almost 50% from the Allardyce era, even taking into consideration the loss of Premiership football, it is amazing”. Cryer went on to point out to Cundy that Rovers fans were no different from anyone else. Giving Liverpool fans as an example when they wanted rid of Roy Hodgson. Their protest lasted no more than a week or two over a handful of games and then Hodgson was gone. “Rovers fans have been totally ignored and treated with contempt by Mrs Anuradha Desai and they have now had enough and will not return whilst Kean is at the club in his £1.3 million pound job, no matter what League position he obtains or what players he signs the damage is done” said Cryer. Asked if he thought Kean’s Job was in danger Cryer Replied “it should be, for him to fail now after major capital investment in the team is unthinkable, (no less than 12 new players) Cryer went on to reveal that Rovers have at least 6, and possibly more players on £35,000 per week. Unheard off outside the Premiership and a massive wage bill” that Cryer does not think is sustainable without large attendances. The whole tone of Andy Cryer’s interview was anti-Kean and Venky’s, he sounded much more disillusioned speaking than he does in print. Presenter Jason Cundy asked what Cryer considered to be the minimum expectation from the Rovers for Kean to keep his job. Cryer replied “a top two finish and never out of the top 6 at any stage of the season, anything less, given the backing he has received would be failure and Desai could not possibly continue to justify keeping Kean in employ”. Jason Cundy ventured to say that Cryer came over more as a fan than a journalist. Andy Cryer then revealed that he comes from Bristol, and that Bristol City is his club. But he has grown to love Blackburn and it’s football team and now feels a part of it and wants the Rovers to rise again just as any fan does. Andy Cryer, has obviously during the course of his job, worked closely with Steve Kean since Kean took over from Allardyce in December 2010. It is obvious that Cryer does not hold Kean in high regard (but we knew that already through his Lancashire Telegraph column) hearing him and the tone of his voice on live radio was however different and put a different complex on matters. Somewhere on the way the professional relationship between Cryer and Kean has broken down, but that is par for the course with Kean. Finally presenter Cundy questioned why the Venky’s had not invested this type of money into the team when they were still in the Premiership? Cryer’s reply “it is a mystery, but I don’t think Kean is the right man to receive and handle this type of investment”. AND SO SAY ALL OF US.. Reg Reg Rover

6:32pm Thu 6 Sep 12

James.NoNayNever says...

Sounds like Kean is tryin to set Shebby up, the dirty under handed b@stard he is.

one of the 10k who wont rturn till Keans dead, well at least sacked
Sounds like Kean is tryin to set Shebby up, the dirty under handed b@stard he is. one of the 10k who wont rturn till Keans dead, well at least sacked James.NoNayNever

7:05pm Thu 6 Sep 12

ronnie clayton says...

" I never made any big decisions the leader brought in new people to do the work , I was only following orders"

WHO ? Hendry ? Kean ?

No, Adolf Eichmann . 1961 .
" I never made any big decisions the leader brought in new people to do the work , I was only following orders" WHO ? Hendry ? Kean ? No, Adolf Eichmann . 1961 . ronnie clayton

7:17pm Thu 6 Sep 12

YarkshahRover says...

I think the Venkies have a separate business plan here. Shebby has been given the remitt to find cheap young talent with a view to making a big profit if just a few of them make the grade. But the plan depends upon Kean developing Shebby's babies, which you can't really count on given their mutual animosity.
I think the Venkies have a separate business plan here. Shebby has been given the remitt to find cheap young talent with a view to making a big profit if just a few of them make the grade. But the plan depends upon Kean developing Shebby's babies, which you can't really count on given their mutual animosity. YarkshahRover

8:20pm Thu 6 Sep 12

Ewood say that! says...

kirky1020 wrote:
Okay so Keano "Chooses to sign" Murphy, Etuhu, Best and Rhodes in a combined fee of around £12-13mil.

Shebby goes out there and picks up a free former Portuguese international to add experience to striker force (one of our best signings in my opinion). Along with a host of other unknown young players for next to nothing and each one with good reason:

- Rosado - Free, apparantly wanted by liverpool and chelsea at points in time, Dunny has lost his legs so we could do with a replacement.

- Nunes - "nominal" - actually looks pretty good.

- Henrique - "nominal" - Keano wasn't going to sign a defensive player was he.

- Jorge, edinho, greg the goalie on loans and "nominal" fees.

I don't understand what he's whinging about, he got to make the main signings for the squad whilst Shebby generally brought in youngsters and loans for less than £1mil total.

NB. I also noticed the media going on about how we "splashed the cash" this summer, didn't we sell N'zonzi and Yakubu for about £5mil combined and expect to recieve somewhere between £4-6mil for Hoilett. By my Reckoning we have spent a maximum of £15mil (though we only paid £4mil of Rhodes up front so reduce that down to £11mil). Meaning..... oh wait we will break even this summer and expect £4mil to be syphoned off in the future to pay off the Rhodes debt. Not to mention the £12mil vanishing from Samba outside of a transfer window.
In reference to your last point, I think considering we have been relegated the fact that we have spent as much as we have received this summer is a positive.The books need balancing(not helped admittedly by lack of sponsors and season tickets granted) but try and think positvely for once.
I was imagining a mass exodus but to be fair it hasn't that bad.
[quote][p][bold]kirky1020[/bold] wrote: Okay so Keano "Chooses to sign" Murphy, Etuhu, Best and Rhodes in a combined fee of around £12-13mil. Shebby goes out there and picks up a free former Portuguese international to add experience to striker force (one of our best signings in my opinion). Along with a host of other unknown young players for next to nothing and each one with good reason: - Rosado - Free, apparantly wanted by liverpool and chelsea at points in time, Dunny has lost his legs so we could do with a replacement. - Nunes - "nominal" - actually looks pretty good. - Henrique - "nominal" - Keano wasn't going to sign a defensive player was he. - Jorge, edinho, greg the goalie on loans and "nominal" fees. I don't understand what he's whinging about, he got to make the main signings for the squad whilst Shebby generally brought in youngsters and loans for less than £1mil total. NB. I also noticed the media going on about how we "splashed the cash" this summer, didn't we sell N'zonzi and Yakubu for about £5mil combined and expect to recieve somewhere between £4-6mil for Hoilett. By my Reckoning we have spent a maximum of £15mil (though we only paid £4mil of Rhodes up front so reduce that down to £11mil). Meaning..... oh wait we will break even this summer and expect £4mil to be syphoned off in the future to pay off the Rhodes debt. Not to mention the £12mil vanishing from Samba outside of a transfer window.[/p][/quote]In reference to your last point, I think considering we have been relegated the fact that we have spent as much as we have received this summer is a positive.The books need balancing(not helped admittedly by lack of sponsors and season tickets granted) but try and think positvely for once. I was imagining a mass exodus but to be fair it hasn't that bad. Ewood say that!

8:32pm Thu 6 Sep 12

peely says...

I thought the odious one was the one with a Portugese bank account but now it seems that Borat is the Portugese bank account holder.The plot thickens - doomed I tell ya doomed !
I thought the odious one was the one with a Portugese bank account but now it seems that Borat is the Portugese bank account holder.The plot thickens - doomed I tell ya doomed ! peely

9:05pm Thu 6 Sep 12

whappen says...

The worry is Kean's seen them and they are rubbish. Now he's just covering his back, making it very, very clear he had nothing to do with them signing.

On the upside, Kean thinking they are rubbish does not in any way mean they actually are.

We'll probably never see them anyway to find out.
The worry is Kean's seen them and they are rubbish. Now he's just covering his back, making it very, very clear he had nothing to do with them signing. On the upside, Kean thinking they are rubbish does not in any way mean they actually are. We'll probably never see them anyway to find out. whappen

9:41pm Thu 6 Sep 12

NICEONESUNSHINE, says...

The score is currently

Kean 3 Shaggy 0

and it's not half time yet. If I were you Shaggy I'd be changing tactics pretty quick or you'll lose the game
The score is currently Kean 3 Shaggy 0 and it's not half time yet. If I were you Shaggy I'd be changing tactics pretty quick or you'll lose the game NICEONESUNSHINE,

9:50pm Thu 6 Sep 12

whappen says...

kirky1020 wrote:

"Shebby goes out there and picks up a free former Portuguese international to add experience to striker force (one of our best signings in my opinion). Along with a host of other unknown young players for next to nothing and each one with good reason:

- Rosado - Free, apparantly wanted by liverpool and chelsea at points in time, Dunny has lost his legs so we could do with a replacement.

- Nunes - "nominal" - actually looks pretty good.

- Henrique - "nominal" - Keano wasn't going to sign a defensive player was he.

- Jorge, edinho, greg the goalie on loans and "nominal" fees.

I don't understand what he's whinging about, he got to make the main signings for the squad whilst Shebby generally brought in youngsters and loans for less than £1mil total".

It's still a million quid though, and a million quid's worth of what ? Just because the Portugese Lidl had a three for two offer on promising young footballers from five years ago doesn't mean the Scheister had to fill his whole trolley with them.

Is this lemon masquerading as some kind of football guru asking us to believe he has unearthed a posse of superstars from under the noses of hundreds of scouts, managers and coaches with a zillion times more experience and knowledge than he will ever have? He's a TV celebrity for Gawd's sake, hired as a front man for this circus of an operation. He should not be within a million miles of this football club never mind influencing recruitment of players.

I'm beginning to wish dear old Hans Christian was back hiring and firing again. Oops, did I say hiring and firing, I meant helping us, honest HC.

We seem to have acquired the services of another inhabitant of his own little planet; one who thinks he can play PL Manager for real.

What's the point anyway if Kean doesn't use the Dirty Half Dozen, which is likely given his disclaimer or, more probably, they aren't actually up to much?

Perhaps Kean has now seen them since they arrived and decided they are rubbish, hence his admission he had not seen them before or, to put it another way, "Don't look at me, this is nowt to do with me".

Of course Kean thinking they are rubbish in no way makes them bad footballers.

Shambles, absolute shambles.
kirky1020 wrote: "Shebby goes out there and picks up a free former Portuguese international to add experience to striker force (one of our best signings in my opinion). Along with a host of other unknown young players for next to nothing and each one with good reason: - Rosado - Free, apparantly wanted by liverpool and chelsea at points in time, Dunny has lost his legs so we could do with a replacement. - Nunes - "nominal" - actually looks pretty good. - Henrique - "nominal" - Keano wasn't going to sign a defensive player was he. - Jorge, edinho, greg the goalie on loans and "nominal" fees. I don't understand what he's whinging about, he got to make the main signings for the squad whilst Shebby generally brought in youngsters and loans for less than £1mil total". It's still a million quid though, and a million quid's worth of what ? Just because the Portugese Lidl had a three for two offer on promising young footballers from five years ago doesn't mean the Scheister had to fill his whole trolley with them. Is this lemon masquerading as some kind of football guru asking us to believe he has unearthed a posse of superstars from under the noses of hundreds of scouts, managers and coaches with a zillion times more experience and knowledge than he will ever have? He's a TV celebrity for Gawd's sake, hired as a front man for this circus of an operation. He should not be within a million miles of this football club never mind influencing recruitment of players. I'm beginning to wish dear old Hans Christian was back hiring and firing again. Oops, did I say hiring and firing, I meant helping us, honest HC. We seem to have acquired the services of another inhabitant of his own little planet; one who thinks he can play PL Manager for real. What's the point anyway if Kean doesn't use the Dirty Half Dozen, which is likely given his disclaimer or, more probably, they aren't actually up to much? Perhaps Kean has now seen them since they arrived and decided they are rubbish, hence his admission he had not seen them before or, to put it another way, "Don't look at me, this is nowt to do with me". Of course Kean thinking they are rubbish in no way makes them bad footballers. Shambles, absolute shambles. whappen

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