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Kean admits he has not seen signings 'live'
2:20pm Wednesday 5th September 2012 in Sport
By Andy Cryer, Blackburn Rovers reporter
BLACKBURN Rovers boss Steve Kean has admitted he had not seen his trio of deadline day signings play live before they arrived at Ewood Park.
Portuguese defender Nuno Henrique and midfielder Diogo Rosado, and Polish goalkeeper Grzegorz Sandomierski, were all signed last Friday, with Kean admitting he had little to do with their arrival.
Rovers have now signed six Portuguese players this summer and the Rovers boss confirmed they have mostly been brought in by global advisor Singh.
Kean said: "We would like to think they are in the club just now and we can take a real look at them.
"I have not seen them play live, Shebby was very excited about them coming and was telling me how good they were.
"So we have now got them in the club and we would like to think we can improve any player who comes to the club and also integrate them as quickly as possible.
"Shebby Singh has identified these players (The Portuguese players). These players have been identified by Shebby, he has been very excited about the technical ability of these players. You can’t have too many good players.
"We have got them at the club and I would like to work with them intensely over the next couple of weeks to try and integrate them as quickly as possible, because we know how difficult it is. We have seen it with some players coming from foreign countries before."
Singh
Comments(112)
handsj14
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2:24pm Wed 5 Sep 12
Rovers 1495
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2:25pm Wed 5 Sep 12
bobinspain
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2:27pm Wed 5 Sep 12
This is no way to run a whelk-stall, let alone a football club.
cboyer
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2:38pm Wed 5 Sep 12
Helmshore_Blue
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2:38pm Wed 5 Sep 12
wrigglers
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2:40pm Wed 5 Sep 12
b12simon
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2:41pm Wed 5 Sep 12
A Darener
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2:42pm Wed 5 Sep 12
wrigglers wrote:Another excuse from the Kean book of excuses. Getting them in before he is found out as a charlatan...oops! Too late we already know he is one.
Sounds like someone trying to cover their own backside if they turn out to be garbage
thresholdweller
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2:43pm Wed 5 Sep 12
A Darener
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2:44pm Wed 5 Sep 12
Well once he has worked with them that's the end of them!
Ossy blue
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2:45pm Wed 5 Sep 12
Iiii1111
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2:46pm Wed 5 Sep 12
…..shabby watch your back the sights have been set…..
makaveli96
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2:54pm Wed 5 Sep 12
zenoufthebirdcatcher
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2:55pm Wed 5 Sep 12
makaveli96
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2:56pm Wed 5 Sep 12
A few pints??
Modes98
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2:56pm Wed 5 Sep 12
bobinspain wrote:Why would you want to see Whelks play football before you buy them?
So players are signed on the say-so of Shebby Singh before the putative 'manager' even gets a look at 'em.
This is no way to run a whelk-stall, let alone a football club.
makaveli96
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3:01pm Wed 5 Sep 12
The Nintendo DSS.
makaveli96
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3:03pm Wed 5 Sep 12
"Why the long face?" Asks the barman.
An hour and a half later, he was regretting it.
Is Eckersley playing?
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3:05pm Wed 5 Sep 12
RUinsane
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3:13pm Wed 5 Sep 12
I only hope shebby is a better talent spotter than uncle fester.
You'd think Keanochio would be able to spot a defender at least, after all he did discover Phil Jones after everyone else at Rovers were going to let him go. Good job you were here Kean or he may have been flippin burgers in McD's
backum
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3:17pm Wed 5 Sep 12
thresholdweller wrote:All signings of Shebby from the same agent who I suspect is taking advantage of him, offloading players going nowhere with their careeres.
Oh dear. Why is he saying this, other than he has not thought much of them when they have arrived and doesn't want to be associated with their signing. To those who predictably start slagging him off, Rovers are not the only club where the manager is only partially involved in signings.
jim 2012
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3:21pm Wed 5 Sep 12
the question that steve kean needs to ask himself is can i as the manager
of blackburn rovers get the best out of the players that are at the club now
not have a go at who identified these players brought them in
grow up kean
1875 Rovers
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3:25pm Wed 5 Sep 12
I am convinced that you only open your mouth to change feet. Your unprofessional 'it's never my fault' comments just strengthen my resolve to stay away from Ewood until you are long gone.... and you will go. Your record speaks for itself, the fans have got you sussed, the players know, Shebby knows ...... it's just a matter of time.
RTID, Arte et Labore !
Forever-Blue
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3:25pm Wed 5 Sep 12
More Pathetic by the minute.
10K back when Kean gets the sack
1riversider
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3:28pm Wed 5 Sep 12
SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB
adcr
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3:32pm Wed 5 Sep 12
wampam
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3:32pm Wed 5 Sep 12
lowelife
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3:34pm Wed 5 Sep 12
Kean has no room to talk, just look at the misfits he's brought into the club.
These internal politics just confirm to the world what a shower Rovers have, sady, become. Laughing stock!
Begone, Kean. "Will no-one rid me of this troubesome manager?", to paraphrase Henry II.
Road Runner Road Runner
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3:45pm Wed 5 Sep 12
He(Kean) has no excuses left and the players that have become part of the squad HE must bring the best out of them along with his staff.
Had the odious one done the job in the first place with the selection of HIS players then he would not have found himself in this position of having players bought and brought in over his daft head.
Everyone is expendable - yes, even the odious one who is not bullet proof !
Prove your worth as manager and manage these players and stop making excuses for the possible failure further down the line ?
You brought this situation upon yourself by overextending with your abilities, and now look were it as got you !
We have no sympathy for your plight only a demand that you live up to your own hype anything less is failure, and you know it !
Good luck to the 3 new faces in that they fit in with the odious one ?
Arte et labore
champs95
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3:51pm Wed 5 Sep 12
moh
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3:59pm Wed 5 Sep 12
b12simon wrote:Saw Rosado in a video and looks a lot better than players like Anderson,Petrovic signed previously.
Given that Klown signed Myles Anderson, this is not necessarily a bad thing.
moh
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4:06pm Wed 5 Sep 12
adcr wrote:The new signings Gomes and Rhodes look good. Also Rosado looks better than Anderson and Petrovic signed previously. well done Shebby for persevering with Rhodes and signing him.
What a Shambles all three players have all played for lowly teams often on loan from other nothing teams. So shebby must have a penchant for watching fringe players at lowly teams in the Portuguese and polish leagues. This again smacks of agent involvement and Kean wants to distance himself from it. If any of these players stars for our first team i’ll apologise, but I won’t hold my breath for this happening.
jgb12348
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4:09pm Wed 5 Sep 12
might be able to get round to weighing up the purchases,then maybe get round to understanding how football works,yes you heard me right I said FOOTBALL.
givet82
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4:16pm Wed 5 Sep 12
adcr
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4:28pm Wed 5 Sep 12
moh wrote:Hi moh, the point i was making is that none of them has much of a history. I am also certain that shebby hasn't been out watching and tracking them. In effect shebby is either signing them on agent's advice, or doing his scouting on youtube, both of these aren't the way to go about signing players. Rhodes, I admit though was an excellent signing, although we did appear to vastly overpay; I don’t think we had much choice as top strikers from the premier league or abroad either won’t come to the championship or would want too much money, and anyway, if Rhodes does take us up the £8m would be a bargain anyway. So yes in this one instance well done Shebby.
adcr wrote:The new signings Gomes and Rhodes look good. Also Rosado looks better than Anderson and Petrovic signed previously. well done Shebby for persevering with Rhodes and signing him.
What a Shambles all three players have all played for lowly teams often on loan from other nothing teams. So shebby must have a penchant for watching fringe players at lowly teams in the Portuguese and polish leagues. This again smacks of agent involvement and Kean wants to distance himself from it. If any of these players stars for our first team i’ll apologise, but I won’t hold my breath for this happening.
madrover
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4:30pm Wed 5 Sep 12
AndyW
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4:32pm Wed 5 Sep 12
AndyW
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4:37pm Wed 5 Sep 12
Kean had nothing to do with the signing and didn't particularly want Yakubu.
It was a deal done between the owners and Pini Zahivi (Yak's agent) in a panic, at the last minute on deadline day.
The fact it turned out to be a good signing had not one thing to do with Kean.
whittleblue
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4:38pm Wed 5 Sep 12
Rhodes is also playing in a one up top for scotland and it doesn't seem to have done him any harm so far. The lads hold up play was praised by craig levein
gleechy
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4:55pm Wed 5 Sep 12
If you fast forward this farce, coco and shabby will blame each other for all their failings.
Because we have a conman for Manager we can't go for normal players due to his reputation within the game, so we either get desperate foreign players or desperate old folk and tempt them with unworkable contracts.
His chickens will come home to roost,luck is not permanent.
All those fans who don't like whingers need to look in the mirror a few weeks after the restart, they'll of probably caught up with the script by then.
There will be nothing to celebrate till the conmen have been ousted.
Riverside 7
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4:56pm Wed 5 Sep 12
Ossy blue wrote:Kean has previously come out and said that as the manager he has the final say on all incoming and outgoing transfers.
Andy, can you not ask him who signed Andersen, Petrovic, Goodwillie, Simon, Bruno and Slew??
Therefore unless something has changed at Ewood he could have simply refused to accept the players he hasn't seen live.
cleggy66
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5:03pm Wed 5 Sep 12
vicn1956
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5:08pm Wed 5 Sep 12
RTID
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5:11pm Wed 5 Sep 12
Perhaps the only difference is that Kean does not have final say on who comes in and out - if he doesn't then he is not the only manager in this position. Brendan Rogers tried to sign Dempsey but was blocked from doing so, and came out in public to say so.
This really is a nothing story that is being blown out of proportion.
Fair enough dislike Kean, but we can't keep blaming him for everything. If we lose the next few as everyone is predicting due to a change in luck, he will be gone. If not we will be clear at the top. Things are starting to look good either way.
bburnrover
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5:20pm Wed 5 Sep 12
Answer may be what a fan highlighted early in Kean's purchases most have now left the club and just the ones they could not sell are left.
Shebby seems fairly brain dead lets just hope he has an eye for a prospective talent.
stefjam
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5:24pm Wed 5 Sep 12
A Darener
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5:26pm Wed 5 Sep 12
cleggy66
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5:29pm Wed 5 Sep 12
stefjam wrote:I could have wrote that myself, I even went on Saturday for a season ticket application form.... alas its still in the glovebox.....
as a supporter for nearly 40 yrs & an ex season ticket holder I have found myself thinking of getting down to Ewood to show support for the team, but alas the never ending farce continues. I did wonder when he had seen these players, I thought maybe on lots of video footage etc. But no, coco te clown comes out & admits he has never seen these unknown squad members & like the joke club we have become, he will see if they are any good & he can fit them in the team, once we have signed them & paying them a wage. UNfekinbelievable, the idiots left running club are either mad or very cunning & lining their own pockets. So until they go, I won't be goin back :-(
SimonGarner
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5:47pm Wed 5 Sep 12
http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/Ali_Dia
Souness' excuse?
"I hadn't seen him play"
I hope to God Kean and Singh have signed five Portuguese builders
dangerous dave
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5:48pm Wed 5 Sep 12
Dan11
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5:48pm Wed 5 Sep 12
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Much like way he was treated both Rochina and Goodwillie. Frozen them out and treated them like ****, when if he had included them more often in games, the team would have performed better on the pitch. In Rochina's case we could have stayed up if that idiot had played him more.
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All in all, Kean is a vindictive lieing a-hole and needs to be sacked.
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I feel sorry for these three lads as I guarantee they will never be given a chance to prove themselves. Unless Kean has suddenly turned over a new leaf.
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KEAN OUT.
dangerous dave
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5:50pm Wed 5 Sep 12
dangerous dave
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5:53pm Wed 5 Sep 12
dangerous dave
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5:59pm Wed 5 Sep 12
OUT WITH KEAN AGNEW SINGH HENDRY VENKYS IN WITH THOUSANDS OF FANS
DanBlackburn
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6:07pm Wed 5 Sep 12
It just demonstrates what a shambles the management of the whole club is. Depressing.Kean Out Me In.
azza234
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6:13pm Wed 5 Sep 12
bburnrover wrote:it amazes me all the ppl on here who says players from Portugal are automatically crap u remember samba he was exactly at a top class club was he Hertha Berlin who he was signed from havent really been lighting up the german leagues in recent times and every team buy players on scout say so. so why u ppl sit there and say its just blackburn who do it if its only supposed to be the managers job to get players like most of u think on here why do football teams keep paying scouts there wages to find players just get behide the fuking players instead of slating them all b4 they play and on another note morten wasnt from a big club either at the time when blackburn bought him
Well we should be asking the question why would the owners give Shebby Singh the job of purchasing our players and even though Shebby promised that players could come from all over why are they all from a small country caled Portugal?
Answer may be what a fan highlighted early in Kean's purchases most have now left the club and just the ones they could not sell are left.
Shebby seems fairly brain dead lets just hope he has an eye for a prospective talent.
dangerous dave
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6:13pm Wed 5 Sep 12
OUT WITH KEAN HENDRY AGNEW SINGH VENKYS IN WITHE THOUSANDS OF FANS
awh
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6:13pm Wed 5 Sep 12
http://www.bbc.co.uk
/sport/0/football/19
487663
Is Eckersley playing?
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6:26pm Wed 5 Sep 12
gleechy
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6:30pm Wed 5 Sep 12
azza234 wrote:When you put a piece like that together it's llike you just woke up.
bburnrover wrote:it amazes me all the ppl on here who says players from Portugal are automatically crap u remember samba he was exactly at a top class club was he Hertha Berlin who he was signed from havent really been lighting up the german leagues in recent times and every team buy players on scout say so. so why u ppl sit there and say its just blackburn who do it if its only supposed to be the managers job to get players like most of u think on here why do football teams keep paying scouts there wages to find players just get behide the fuking players instead of slating them all b4 they play and on another note morten wasnt from a big club either at the time when blackburn bought him
Well we should be asking the question why would the owners give Shebby Singh the job of purchasing our players and even though Shebby promised that players could come from all over why are they all from a small country caled Portugal?
Answer may be what a fan highlighted early in Kean's purchases most have now left the club and just the ones they could not sell are left.
Shebby seems fairly brain dead lets just hope he has an eye for a prospective talent.
The script so far is everyone is being treated like fools and made to follow a clown whilst he dismantles a very good team which drops through the leagues, if you think he is up to it, get behind him, otherwise stop making ridiculous excuses for a loser and help make him get the message.
stick to football
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6:34pm Wed 5 Sep 12
Battle of the Agents- Anderson or Shebbys men showing at a ground near you
Rod of the Rovers
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6:37pm Wed 5 Sep 12
ronnie clayton
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6:47pm Wed 5 Sep 12
Bazzer
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7:25pm Wed 5 Sep 12
jackmetickler
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8:11pm Wed 5 Sep 12
dont know who I am signing .......etc etc
I have to say Mr Kean, many men who have found themselves in these cirucumstances have resigned on a point of principle.....
I mean at the end of the day you are the one the fans are hanging out to dry ... surely you have enough self esteem to not to be a boabie?
MatthewCA
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8:12pm Wed 5 Sep 12
First Time I did not support Kean on this remark.
Kean should showcase that he is No.1 in Blackburn club, this is getting uprooted with such comments and shebby will get the clap, Kean will get the slap.
Kean is doing good with his first team on each ground. Hope Murphy - Robbo - Gomes - Givet will balance the team inside the ground with more control on each department.
All the best, I love to see the next match. Good Luck.
wilyrover
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8:13pm Wed 5 Sep 12
bbf70
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8:20pm Wed 5 Sep 12
janus1947
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8:20pm Wed 5 Sep 12
MatthewCA wrote:Kean's got the clap - whatever next???
As a big club manager, Kean should have say in a better way than I did not seen them live playing, I feel Kean answer in a very stright forward manner and give a kick to shebby also, that this players is yours , take responsibility.
First Time I did not support Kean on this remark.
Kean should showcase that he is No.1 in Blackburn club, this is getting uprooted with such comments and shebby will get the clap, Kean will get the slap.
Kean is doing good with his first team on each ground. Hope Murphy - Robbo - Gomes - Givet will balance the team inside the ground with more control on each department.
All the best, I love to see the next match. Good Luck.
janus1947
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8:23pm Wed 5 Sep 12
janus1947 wrote:Oh, Shebby's got the clap - clap, slap - who cares?
MatthewCA wrote:Kean's got the clap - whatever next???
As a big club manager, Kean should have say in a better way than I did not seen them live playing, I feel Kean answer in a very stright forward manner and give a kick to shebby also, that this players is yours , take responsibility.
First Time I did not support Kean on this remark.
Kean should showcase that he is No.1 in Blackburn club, this is getting uprooted with such comments and shebby will get the clap, Kean will get the slap.
Kean is doing good with his first team on each ground. Hope Murphy - Robbo - Gomes - Givet will balance the team inside the ground with more control on each department.
All the best, I love to see the next match. Good Luck.
NICEONESUNSHINE,
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8:29pm Wed 5 Sep 12
"I've had a good at the the boys Shaggy has brought in and they are crap"
If I were Shaggy I'd be thinking about packing my suitcase. You can say what you want about Steve Kean but he's no fool and a survivor. Shaggy hasn't got a chance
Mattrovers
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8:54pm Wed 5 Sep 12
BlueSkies
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8:58pm Wed 5 Sep 12
Make no mistake, SK is manipulative and this disclosure is not happening by chance. SK has his own agenda, namely his survival.
Clubs have scouts, that's their job to seek out and select players to come into a club. Managers don't personally vet every single acquisition, it's not possible.
Does Pardew at NUFC watch all his signings? No. He leaves it to Allan Carr's dad to sort it out for him, and good he is too.
Kean is following his own agenda.
Not going BACK
Till Kean's got the SACK!
bluerob
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9:27pm Wed 5 Sep 12
cleggy66 wrote:Hope you can both stay strong and stay away, its the only way we can put our message across to the owners.
stefjam wrote:I could have wrote that myself, I even went on Saturday for a season ticket application form.... alas its still in the glovebox.....
as a supporter for nearly 40 yrs & an ex season ticket holder I have found myself thinking of getting down to Ewood to show support for the team, but alas the never ending farce continues. I did wonder when he had seen these players, I thought maybe on lots of video footage etc. But no, coco te clown comes out & admits he has never seen these unknown squad members & like the joke club we have become, he will see if they are any good & he can fit them in the team, once we have signed them & paying them a wage. UNfekinbelievable, the idiots left running club are either mad or very cunning & lining their own pockets. So until they go, I won't be goin back :-(
I believe low attendances will be a part of the jigsaw that will eventually see us rid of Mr Kean, its short term pain, long term gain.
P888HOW
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9:30pm Wed 5 Sep 12
Blackburn-fan
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9:30pm Wed 5 Sep 12
Dave_P wrote:Sadly not. The kean haters don't care. They're just looking for the next thing to blame kean for.
would it make any difference even if he had?
champs95
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9:33pm Wed 5 Sep 12
alfa111
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9:54pm Wed 5 Sep 12
janus1947 wrote:Never heard so much clap talked in all my life
MatthewCA wrote:Kean's got the clap - whatever next???
As a big club manager, Kean should have say in a better way than I did not seen them live playing, I feel Kean answer in a very stright forward manner and give a kick to shebby also, that this players is yours , take responsibility.
First Time I did not support Kean on this remark.
Kean should showcase that he is No.1 in Blackburn club, this is getting uprooted with such comments and shebby will get the clap, Kean will get the slap.
Kean is doing good with his first team on each ground. Hope Murphy - Robbo - Gomes - Givet will balance the team inside the ground with more control on each department.
All the best, I love to see the next match. Good Luck.
alfa111
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9:57pm Wed 5 Sep 12
BlueSkies wrote:Take it all with a pinch of salt its the old good cop bad cop trash as usual from kean and shebby.
This suggests some more in-fighting for the 'power struggle' currently ongoing at Ewood, and while Shebby's away, Kean will have his say.
Make no mistake, SK is manipulative and this disclosure is not happening by chance. SK has his own agenda, namely his survival.
Clubs have scouts, that's their job to seek out and select players to come into a club. Managers don't personally vet every single acquisition, it's not possible.
Does Pardew at NUFC watch all his signings? No. He leaves it to Allan Carr's dad to sort it out for him, and good he is too.
Kean is following his own agenda.
Not going BACK
Till Kean's got the SACK!
silverstan
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10:30pm Wed 5 Sep 12
wrigglers wrote:Spot on, Kean will just shift the blame as usual !!!!!
Sounds like someone trying to cover their own backside if they turn out to be garbage
silverstan
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10:33pm Wed 5 Sep 12
zenoufthebirdcatcher wrote:Well hopefully there will only be one winner !!
Definitely smacks of internal politics: get your excuses in first. I would imagine there is little love lost between Shebby and Kean and that, I fear, will be the story of our season.
dallarover
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10:34pm Wed 5 Sep 12
Come on Shabby, get a grip and sack the cretin - you'd have an extra six thousand on the next game, buy the goodwill of the town and probably get at least one sponsor back. I am convinced that it wouldn't matter who you brought in - they'd be better than the Keano.
maltaman
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10:36pm Wed 5 Sep 12
silverstan
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10:40pm Wed 5 Sep 12
jellybiff
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10:53pm Wed 5 Sep 12
krish brfc
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10:55pm Wed 5 Sep 12
sk is just looking for blames in advance cause his going down in next few games .no matter what players we have they will always sulk under sk guidance.
Portuguese players has talent and are good to watch with good pace n skills...
its better than nothing .
brfc fans should cheer up n lok for positive instead of just faults in every game ..we cant win every game ...can we so there will be up and downs on the road but i believe we have a team which can get us to pl next yr and they only need all the support we can give.
ronnie clayton
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10:56pm Wed 5 Sep 12
Is Eckersley playing? wrote:NOT REALLY CHICKEN MONEY , IN reality its still Jacks money.
Bloody hell. Oh,dear. Cor blimey. Nowt to do with me! How often are that trio going to get picked by Keano? Do we know how many times Shabby saw them play 'live'? More chicken money down the drain I fear.
krish brfc
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10:56pm Wed 5 Sep 12
French Rover
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10:57pm Wed 5 Sep 12
alfa111 wrote:it is more than a pinch of salt...it is another very public embarrassment of our club....more silly remarks and dirty laundry put out into the public domain and making an even bigger laughing stock of us than previous.....more like a lorry load of salt than a pinch...sneaky coniving shysters all the bleeding lot of them - get out of Ewood now.
BlueSkies wrote:Take it all with a pinch of salt its the old good cop bad cop trash as usual from kean and shebby.
This suggests some more in-fighting for the 'power struggle' currently ongoing at Ewood, and while Shebby's away, Kean will have his say.
Make no mistake, SK is manipulative and this disclosure is not happening by chance. SK has his own agenda, namely his survival.
Clubs have scouts, that's their job to seek out and select players to come into a club. Managers don't personally vet every single acquisition, it's not possible.
Does Pardew at NUFC watch all his signings? No. He leaves it to Allan Carr's dad to sort it out for him, and good he is too.
Kean is following his own agenda.
Not going BACK
Till Kean's got the SACK!
ronnie clayton
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11:06pm Wed 5 Sep 12
Their management all a quiver
They ripped us off ,
Their balls fell off and floated down the River !!!
Captain Dreckley
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11:14pm Wed 5 Sep 12
Save our season, kean out now and take venkys and Singh with you
kiwipom73
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11:42pm Wed 5 Sep 12
Going to the media with these comments, Conman Kean has made it clear he is not the person this time to blame for the new signing YET he has (apart from his claim to having single handedly discovered Phil Jones) NOT ONCE made a genuine "find" or signing while at the club....FACT !
Still, you have to give him credit
for being prepared to put these new players through his "intense" workout to try and mold them into the Kean culture !
(even though you would think this ould be a standard procedure with any new signing).
Of course conman Kean has seen it all before with overseas players, YET we would not understand the need for them to adjust to the physical Championship league, the laugage, the food, the set-up, the new teamates...the whole Lancashire culture AND the BIGGIE, understanding what intent comes out of Kean,s mouth !
(one feels Kean would mess up Messi if given half a chance)
We will not be holding our breath on this outcome then...
ronnie clayton
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11:55pm Wed 5 Sep 12
THEY WILL COME !
Roverthere
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5:03am Thu 6 Sep 12
MatthewCA wrote:Kean is living on borrowed time. Venky's will recognise the duck egg soon. Kean out = Fans in.
As a big club manager, Kean should have say in a better way than I did not seen them live playing, I feel Kean answer in a very stright forward manner and give a kick to shebby also, that this players is yours , take responsibility.
First Time I did not support Kean on this remark.
Kean should showcase that he is No.1 in Blackburn club, this is getting uprooted with such comments and shebby will get the clap, Kean will get the slap.
Kean is doing good with his first team on each ground. Hope Murphy - Robbo - Gomes - Givet will balance the team inside the ground with more control on each department.
All the best, I love to see the next match. Good Luck.
whappen
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5:46am Thu 6 Sep 12
adcr wrote:I don't get this "Thank Shebby for chasing Rhodes" line. All he did was throw more money at Huddersfield and Rhodes with the owners' blessing. Chri$t, you or I can pick up a 'phone and write a cheque.
moh wrote:Hi moh, the point i was making is that none of them has much of a history. I am also certain that shebby hasn't been out watching and tracking them. In effect shebby is either signing them on agent's advice, or doing his scouting on youtube, both of these aren't the way to go about signing players. Rhodes, I admit though was an excellent signing, although we did appear to vastly overpay; I don’t think we had much choice as top strikers from the premier league or abroad either won’t come to the championship or would want too much money, and anyway, if Rhodes does take us up the £8m would be a bargain anyway. So yes in this one instance well done Shebby.adcr wrote: What a Shambles all three players have all played for lowly teams often on loan from other nothing teams. So shebby must have a penchant for watching fringe players at lowly teams in the Portuguese and polish leagues. This again smacks of agent involvement and Kean wants to distance himself from it. If any of these players stars for our first team i’ll apologise, but I won’t hold my breath for this happening.The new signings Gomes and Rhodes look good. Also Rosado looks better than Anderson and Petrovic signed previously. well done Shebby for persevering with Rhodes and signing him.
That doesn't strike me as "chasing" someone as I understand it.
As for the Portugese players; I didn't realise coverage of the Portugese junior or reserve leagues was so popular in Malaysia. Is his assessment of their technical ability based on recent (live or TV) viewings of them or from ten years ago playing in a school XI whilst he was on his hols on the Algarve? Can anyone supply a list of the other players he has "discovered" in Portugal or anywhere else for that matter? Apart from Titus that is.
It has been noted on these pages it is more than a little suspicious all these guys from Portugal suddenly rolling up. Can't disagree with that.
Or is this just yet another example of a vastly underqualified person being given a position of responsibility in what is, like it or not, a multi million pound business? They do seem to have a knack of doing that, our owners.
Of course, Kean is retaliating first; washing his hands of any responsibility for them being signed - and you can't really blame him in a way. Mind you, he did buy into this whole farce at the outset for which he is every bit as much to blame, as he is for continuing to put up with it.
It also suggests he has now seen them and isn't impressed; he would have kept his powder dry, waiting to claim the credit had they been any good.
One thing is certain; this continues to be a ridiculous way to run a football club.
PK1875
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7:29am Thu 6 Sep 12
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9:30am Thu 6 Sep 12
adcr
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9:41am Thu 6 Sep 12
whappen wrote:Good post Whappen. I am in total agreement. My praise for Shebby in the Rhodes transfer was only because I think a goal scorer like Rhodes could be the difference between going up, and staying down. To be honest I don't know what kind of role Shebby had in that deal, but he seemed to be the only person who was prepared to step forward and discuss our bids for Rhodes, so I presumed he was a central player in the deal going through.
adcr wrote:I don't get this "Thank Shebby for chasing Rhodes" line. All he did was throw more money at Huddersfield and Rhodes with the owners' blessing. Chri$t, you or I can pick up a 'phone and write a cheque.
moh wrote:Hi moh, the point i was making is that none of them has much of a history. I am also certain that shebby hasn't been out watching and tracking them. In effect shebby is either signing them on agent's advice, or doing his scouting on youtube, both of these aren't the way to go about signing players. Rhodes, I admit though was an excellent signing, although we did appear to vastly overpay; I don’t think we had much choice as top strikers from the premier league or abroad either won’t come to the championship or would want too much money, and anyway, if Rhodes does take us up the £8m would be a bargain anyway. So yes in this one instance well done Shebby.adcr wrote: What a Shambles all three players have all played for lowly teams often on loan from other nothing teams. So shebby must have a penchant for watching fringe players at lowly teams in the Portuguese and polish leagues. This again smacks of agent involvement and Kean wants to distance himself from it. If any of these players stars for our first team i’ll apologise, but I won’t hold my breath for this happening.The new signings Gomes and Rhodes look good. Also Rosado looks better than Anderson and Petrovic signed previously. well done Shebby for persevering with Rhodes and signing him.
That doesn't strike me as "chasing" someone as I understand it.
As for the Portugese players; I didn't realise coverage of the Portugese junior or reserve leagues was so popular in Malaysia. Is his assessment of their technical ability based on recent (live or TV) viewings of them or from ten years ago playing in a school XI whilst he was on his hols on the Algarve? Can anyone supply a list of the other players he has "discovered" in Portugal or anywhere else for that matter? Apart from Titus that is.
It has been noted on these pages it is more than a little suspicious all these guys from Portugal suddenly rolling up. Can't disagree with that.
Or is this just yet another example of a vastly underqualified person being given a position of responsibility in what is, like it or not, a multi million pound business? They do seem to have a knack of doing that, our owners.
Of course, Kean is retaliating first; washing his hands of any responsibility for them being signed - and you can't really blame him in a way. Mind you, he did buy into this whole farce at the outset for which he is every bit as much to blame, as he is for continuing to put up with it.
It also suggests he has now seen them and isn't impressed; he would have kept his powder dry, waiting to claim the credit had they been any good.
One thing is certain; this continues to be a ridiculous way to run a football club.
I am a bit surprised after scrolling through the other posts that all people want to do is attack Kean all the time. I am not saying he doesn't deserve most of it, but for me, the fact we are bringing in unknown players through a tv pundit who has only worked in relative obscurity in the far east is the issue in this news item. Before people start saying that he can't be worse than Kean, think about what happens when Kean is gone - will Shebby still be making signings (if so what basis is he selecting players to sign)? Will a new manager put up with this situation? And is there something dodgy financially happening?
love doctor
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RoverInRotterdam
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10:23am Thu 6 Sep 12
Bazzer wrote:He wouldn't,thats why they sacked him... You really couldn't make up whats happened to our once proud and respected Football Club over the last 2 year ....................
To those who ripped Big Sam apart and wanted him gone....do you think he would have stood for this?
. Shysters and crooks !!! R.T.I.D.
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10:35am Thu 6 Sep 12
1973possom
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Reg Rover
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4:36pm Thu 6 Sep 12
Whilst relaxing at home last Thursday (30th August) I had Talk Sport radio switched on in the back ground.
Imagine my surprise when presenter Jason Cundy announced that their special guest that evening was to be none other than the Lancashire Telegraphs Andy Cryer to discuss all things Blackburn Rovers prompted by the day’s news that Jason Rhodes had signed for the Rovers at a fee of £8 million, a record between two Championship teams. Rovers barely merit a mention on this National Radio station let alone being the night’s main topic. So I eagerly awaited Cryer’s arrival with excited anticipation. Cryer didn’t disappoint.
With the programme heading towards midnight I presume most Rovers fans will have missed what Cryer (pic above) had to say, let me enlighten you.
Asked about the Jason Rhodes transfer and fee, which amazed presenter Crundy (a former Chelsea player) Cryer said he thought it was a “last throw of the dice by Mrs Anuradha Desai to save Kean his job and get Rovers back into the Premiership” , although Cryer went on to say he thought Kean (was not the man for that job and that a great opportunity was lost in May when Rovers should of made a change and started the season with a new man in charge creating a new impetus at Ewood. This had led to the fans deserting Ewood Park in their thousands”.
Presenter Jason Cundy suggested that the Rovers fans were ill advised to carry on their protest at Kean’s management and should now get behind him. Cryer retorted “not so, what you have to remember” said Cryer “is that no manager in football league history has survived in his job for so long with a such bad record as Kean. “ Rovers fans know he is not up to his job and now have deserted the club in droves.” With gates of barely 13,500 at both opening home games, down by almost 50% from the Allardyce era, even taking into consideration the loss of Premiership football, it is amazing”.
Cryer went on to point out to Cundy that Rovers fans were no different from anyone else. Giving Liverpool fans as an example when they wanted rid of Roy Hodgson. Their protest lasted no more than a week or two over a handful of games and then Hodgson was gone. “Rovers fans have been totally ignored and treated with contempt by Mrs Anuradha Desai and they have now had enough and will not return whilst Kean is at the club in his £1.3 million pound job, no matter what League position he obtains or what players he signs the damage is done” said Cryer.
Asked if he thought Kean’s Job was in danger Cryer Replied “it should be, for him to fail now after major capital investment in the team is unthinkable, (no less than 12 new players) Cryer went on to reveal that Rovers have at least 6, and possibly more players on £35,000 per week. Unheard off outside the Premiership and a massive wage bill” that Cryer does not think is sustainable without large attendances. The whole tone of Andy Cryer’s interview was anti-Kean and Venky’s, he sounded much more disillusioned speaking than he does in print.
Presenter Jason Cundy asked what Cryer considered to be the minimum expectation from the Rovers for Kean to keep his job. Cryer replied “a top two finish and never out of the top 6 at any stage of the season, anything less, given the backing he has received would be failure and Desai could not possibly continue to justify keeping Kean in employ”.
Jason Cundy ventured to say that Cryer came over more as a fan than a journalist. Andy Cryer then revealed that he comes from Bristol, and that Bristol City is his club. But he has grown to love Blackburn and it’s football team and now feels a part of it and wants the Rovers to rise again just as any fan does.
Andy Cryer, has obviously during the course of his job, worked closely with Steve Kean since Kean took over from Allardyce in December 2010. It is obvious that Cryer does not hold Kean in high regard (but we knew that already through his Lancashire Telegraph column) hearing him and the tone of his voice on live radio was however different and put a different complex on matters. Somewhere on the way the professional relationship between Cryer and Kean has broken down, but that is par for the course with Kean.
Finally presenter Cundy questioned why the Venky’s had not invested this type of money into the team when they were still in the Premiership? Cryer’s reply “it is a mystery, but I don’t think Kean is the right man to receive and handle this type of investment”.
AND SO SAY ALL OF US..
Reg
Reg Rover
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4:39pm Thu 6 Sep 12
Shebby Singh beware.
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RoverInRotterdam
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8:03pm Thu 6 Sep 12
MatthewCA wrote:I think you need To learn much better English before you're asked again to back the odius shyster ...... The so called manager is nothing else but a lying,drink driving,self important moron.. And to watch him squirm as he starts to lose power is cheering me up no end....R.T.I.D.
As a big club manager, Kean should have say in a better way than I did not seen them live playing, I feel Kean answer in a very stright forward manner and give a kick to shebby also, that this players is yours , take responsibility.
First Time I did not support Kean on this remark.
Kean should showcase that he is No.1 in Blackburn club, this is getting uprooted with such comments and shebby will get the clap, Kean will get the slap.
Kean is doing good with his first team on each ground. Hope Murphy - Robbo - Gomes - Givet will balance the team inside the ground with more control on each department.
All the best, I love to see the next match. Good Luck.
ronnie clayton
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8:09pm Thu 6 Sep 12
RoverInRotterdam wrote:He seems to do quite well , after all English is not his first language.
MatthewCA wrote:I think you need To learn much better English before you're asked again to back the odius shyster ...... The so called manager is nothing else but a lying,drink driving,self important moron.. And to watch him squirm as he starts to lose power is cheering me up no end....R.T.I.D.
As a big club manager, Kean should have say in a better way than I did not seen them live playing, I feel Kean answer in a very stright forward manner and give a kick to shebby also, that this players is yours , take responsibility.
First Time I did not support Kean on this remark.
Kean should showcase that he is No.1 in Blackburn club, this is getting uprooted with such comments and shebby will get the clap, Kean will get the slap.
Kean is doing good with his first team on each ground. Hope Murphy - Robbo - Gomes - Givet will balance the team inside the ground with more control on each department.
All the best, I love to see the next match. Good Luck.
merlinrabbit
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8:48pm Thu 6 Sep 12
Reg Rover wrote:Jason Cundy was an absolute idiot last season and completey insulting about Rovers fans and backed Kean in the most selfish way only a footballer could. As for Kean he is playing games with Shebby, making it clear that he is responsible for those players in advance of them failing. They are all a bunch of losers
CRYER BLASTS KEAN ON TALK SPORT RADIO
Whilst relaxing at home last Thursday (30th August) I had Talk Sport radio switched on in the back ground.
Imagine my surprise when presenter Jason Cundy announced that their special guest that evening was to be none other than the Lancashire Telegraphs Andy Cryer to discuss all things Blackburn Rovers prompted by the day’s news that Jason Rhodes had signed for the Rovers at a fee of £8 million, a record between two Championship teams. Rovers barely merit a mention on this National Radio station let alone being the night’s main topic. So I eagerly awaited Cryer’s arrival with excited anticipation. Cryer didn’t disappoint.
With the programme heading towards midnight I presume most Rovers fans will have missed what Cryer (pic above) had to say, let me enlighten you.
Asked about the Jason Rhodes transfer and fee, which amazed presenter Crundy (a former Chelsea player) Cryer said he thought it was a “last throw of the dice by Mrs Anuradha Desai to save Kean his job and get Rovers back into the Premiership” , although Cryer went on to say he thought Kean (was not the man for that job and that a great opportunity was lost in May when Rovers should of made a change and started the season with a new man in charge creating a new impetus at Ewood. This had led to the fans deserting Ewood Park in their thousands”.
Presenter Jason Cundy suggested that the Rovers fans were ill advised to carry on their protest at Kean’s management and should now get behind him. Cryer retorted “not so, what you have to remember” said Cryer “is that no manager in football league history has survived in his job for so long with a such bad record as Kean. “ Rovers fans know he is not up to his job and now have deserted the club in droves.” With gates of barely 13,500 at both opening home games, down by almost 50% from the Allardyce era, even taking into consideration the loss of Premiership football, it is amazing”.
Cryer went on to point out to Cundy that Rovers fans were no different from anyone else. Giving Liverpool fans as an example when they wanted rid of Roy Hodgson. Their protest lasted no more than a week or two over a handful of games and then Hodgson was gone. “Rovers fans have been totally ignored and treated with contempt by Mrs Anuradha Desai and they have now had enough and will not return whilst Kean is at the club in his £1.3 million pound job, no matter what League position he obtains or what players he signs the damage is done” said Cryer.
Asked if he thought Kean’s Job was in danger Cryer Replied “it should be, for him to fail now after major capital investment in the team is unthinkable, (no less than 12 new players) Cryer went on to reveal that Rovers have at least 6, and possibly more players on £35,000 per week. Unheard off outside the Premiership and a massive wage bill” that Cryer does not think is sustainable without large attendances. The whole tone of Andy Cryer’s interview was anti-Kean and Venky’s, he sounded much more disillusioned speaking than he does in print.
Presenter Jason Cundy asked what Cryer considered to be the minimum expectation from the Rovers for Kean to keep his job. Cryer replied “a top two finish and never out of the top 6 at any stage of the season, anything less, given the backing he has received would be failure and Desai could not possibly continue to justify keeping Kean in employ”.
Jason Cundy ventured to say that Cryer came over more as a fan than a journalist. Andy Cryer then revealed that he comes from Bristol, and that Bristol City is his club. But he has grown to love Blackburn and it’s football team and now feels a part of it and wants the Rovers to rise again just as any fan does.
Andy Cryer, has obviously during the course of his job, worked closely with Steve Kean since Kean took over from Allardyce in December 2010. It is obvious that Cryer does not hold Kean in high regard (but we knew that already through his Lancashire Telegraph column) hearing him and the tone of his voice on live radio was however different and put a different complex on matters. Somewhere on the way the professional relationship between Cryer and Kean has broken down, but that is par for the course with Kean.
Finally presenter Cundy questioned why the Venky’s had not invested this type of money into the team when they were still in the Premiership? Cryer’s reply “it is a mystery, but I don’t think Kean is the right man to receive and handle this type of investment”.
AND SO SAY ALL OF US..
Reg
RoverInRotterdam
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10:13pm Thu 6 Sep 12
ronnie clayton wrote:LoL .. So you can spot one of keans looney Punes too ? R.T.I.D.
RoverInRotterdam wrote:He seems to do quite well , after all English is not his first language.
MatthewCA wrote:I think you need To learn much better English before you're asked again to back the odius shyster ...... The so called manager is nothing else but a lying,drink driving,self important moron.. And to watch him squirm as he starts to lose power is cheering me up no end....R.T.I.D.
As a big club manager, Kean should have say in a better way than I did not seen them live playing, I feel Kean answer in a very stright forward manner and give a kick to shebby also, that this players is yours , take responsibility.
First Time I did not support Kean on this remark.
Kean should showcase that he is No.1 in Blackburn club, this is getting uprooted with such comments and shebby will get the clap, Kean will get the slap.
Kean is doing good with his first team on each ground. Hope Murphy - Robbo - Gomes - Givet will balance the team inside the ground with more control on each department.
All the best, I love to see the next match. Good Luck.
reggie0008
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12:16am Fri 7 Sep 12
madrover wrote:Simon Vuckevic has also played in the champions league for Sporting as i saw him play versus FC Twente in 2009 while working in Lisbon, He was man of the match in my opinion in a team with Liedson, Miguel Veloso and Joao Moutinho, Simon is also Montenegro's most capped player yet appently he is not good enough to play for us?
rosado has played champs league for sporting so must be decent played at under21 level as well . i just hope our next signing is a manager and not some alcoholic impersonating one like we have now f**k off kean
If he won't give Vuckevic a chance i can't see him playing Rosado.
Reg
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