Premier League cash windfall makes life tougher for Blackburn Rovers, sayd Rathbone

MICK Rathbone believes the Premier League’s £3billion cash windfall has raised the stakes in the Championship next season – but has warned Blackburn Rovers their dreams of an instant return have only got tougher.

The English top flight’s next TV deal, starting in 2013, has risen to a record £3bn over three years – a 71 per cent increase – after BT bought a large slice of televised football rights.

Former Ewood defender Rathbone admits Rovers’ Premier League drop now appears even more costly than it did before and believes a long line of clubs will now be planning to ‘take a little gamble’ on reaching the ‘promised land’.

The new deal equates to at least £14m more per year for each football club, with the bottom team in the league from 2013-14 onwards likely to receive more than the £60.6m Manchester City earned this year for ending the season as champions.

Rathbone said: “The numbers you are talking about are absolutely crazy. Every time you think it can’t get bigger, it does.

“You can imagine Rovers owners, and the money men of the other relegated clubs, looking at that deal and thinking ‘what have we done’.

“The Premier League has always been where the money is but the money you are talking about here is scary.

“Any owner would be rubbing their hands with glee at the prospect of getting that sort of money.

“Rovers would be desperate to get back in to enjoy that sort of money but I hope they know they face a very, very difficult job.

“Rovers will of course be eyeing up that money, but so will the owners of the likes of Leeds United, Sheffield Wednesday and Cardiff. Everyone’s eyes will have been opened a little wider by that.”

The first TV deal of the Premier League era was worth £304m over five years. Under the new deal, clubs will be guaranteed £3bn from live rights, plus £180m from the BBC for Match of the Day.

And Rathbone knows the rewards on offer to those in the Premier League will only increase the gap between them and the ‘rest of football.”

“The difficulty is the rich are getting richer and the rest have their faces pressed up against the window looking in,” said Rathbone.

“I know the Financial Fair Play is being brought in to stop clubs spending beyond their means but there are ways around that.

“I wouldn’t be surprised to see some Championship clubs considering throwing a bit more money at trying to get into the Premier League, with the rewards bigger than ever before.”

Rathbone, who made more than 300 appearances for Rovers between 1979-87, is no stranger to the Championship having worked at Coventry and Preston at that level in the past.

He said: “I have really enjoyed my experience of the Championship. The difference between this league and the Premier League is that anyone can beat anyone on their day.

“That is where Blackburn Rovers are going to find it tough. Every single game is a real battle and the money on offer for the teams who come out on top is only going to make it tougher.

“It comes down to who performs on the day. It is very difficult to predict who will do well. The team that is the best prepared generally are the teams who do well.”

Meanwhile members of the Blackburn Rovers Action Group met with the FA yesterday to discuss their concerns over the running of the club.

Group chairman Glen Mullan, said: “It went very well again. They have taken our information and will go away and look into it all.”

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10:11am Fri 15 Jun 12

thresholdweller says...

“It comes down to who performs on the day. It is very difficult to predict who will do well. The team that is the best prepared generally are the teams who do well.”
So that's OK. I am sure that we will be well prepared - or we will get well prepared at the beginning of August - perhaps - hmmmm.
“It comes down to who performs on the day. It is very difficult to predict who will do well. The team that is the best prepared generally are the teams who do well.” So that's OK. I am sure that we will be well prepared - or we will get well prepared at the beginning of August - perhaps - hmmmm. thresholdweller

10:12am Fri 15 Jun 12

Cha'mone MF says...

Brilliant, just when you thought it couldn't get any better, Dumpburn have this dropped on them. Been eating fillet steak for years and now you're gonna have to chow down on corned beef.
.....welcome to the table chumps.
Brilliant, just when you thought it couldn't get any better, Dumpburn have this dropped on them. Been eating fillet steak for years and now you're gonna have to chow down on corned beef. .....welcome to the table chumps. Cha'mone MF

10:13am Fri 15 Jun 12

jaysay says...

There won't be any chance of a return anyway if we don't get rid of Kean, we'll be nearer the 1st Div never mind the Premiership
There won't be any chance of a return anyway if we don't get rid of Kean, we'll be nearer the 1st Div never mind the Premiership jaysay

10:13am Fri 15 Jun 12

Jack Herer says...

So Venkys have lost millions and millions, yet they won't sack the man responsible.

Incompetant or corrupt are the only conclusions therefore.

With the only question remaining; why are they still not doing anything? Incompetant or corrupt?

Incompetance can only be used as an excuse for so long surely.
So Venkys have lost millions and millions, yet they won't sack the man responsible. Incompetant or corrupt are the only conclusions therefore. With the only question remaining; why are they still not doing anything? Incompetant or corrupt? Incompetance can only be used as an excuse for so long surely. Jack Herer

10:17am Fri 15 Jun 12

Jack Herer says...

Cha'mone MF wrote:
Brilliant, just when you thought it couldn't get any better, Dumpburn have this dropped on them. Been eating fillet steak for years and now you're gonna have to chow down on corned beef.
.....welcome to the table chumps.
We're still better than you Cha'mone.

You know that in your heart and you have to live with that.

I'm guessing that's why you're here acting like a goon. This, tragically, is as good as life gets for you.
[quote][p][bold]Cha'mone MF[/bold] wrote: Brilliant, just when you thought it couldn't get any better, Dumpburn have this dropped on them. Been eating fillet steak for years and now you're gonna have to chow down on corned beef. .....welcome to the table chumps.[/p][/quote]We're still better than you Cha'mone. You know that in your heart and you have to live with that. I'm guessing that's why you're here acting like a goon. This, tragically, is as good as life gets for you. Jack Herer

10:19am Fri 15 Jun 12

Cha'mone MF says...

Jack Herer wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
Brilliant, just when you thought it couldn't get any better, Dumpburn have this dropped on them. Been eating fillet steak for years and now you're gonna have to chow down on corned beef.
.....welcome to the table chumps.
We're still better than you Cha'mone.

You know that in your heart and you have to live with that.

I'm guessing that's why you're here acting like a goon. This, tragically, is as good as life gets for you.
You've started a bit early with the bong Jack ?
[quote][p][bold]Jack Herer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cha'mone MF[/bold] wrote: Brilliant, just when you thought it couldn't get any better, Dumpburn have this dropped on them. Been eating fillet steak for years and now you're gonna have to chow down on corned beef. .....welcome to the table chumps.[/p][/quote]We're still better than you Cha'mone. You know that in your heart and you have to live with that. I'm guessing that's why you're here acting like a goon. This, tragically, is as good as life gets for you.[/p][/quote]You've started a bit early with the bong Jack ? Cha'mone MF

10:21am Fri 15 Jun 12

Harwoodstblue says...

Cha'mone MF wrote:
Brilliant, just when you thought it couldn't get any better, Dumpburn have this dropped on them. Been eating fillet steak for years and now you're gonna have to chow down on corned beef.
.....welcome to the table chumps.
At least we've been eating fillet steak for 34 yrs. You haven't.
[quote][p][bold]Cha'mone MF[/bold] wrote: Brilliant, just when you thought it couldn't get any better, Dumpburn have this dropped on them. Been eating fillet steak for years and now you're gonna have to chow down on corned beef. .....welcome to the table chumps.[/p][/quote]At least we've been eating fillet steak for 34 yrs. You haven't. Harwoodstblue

10:24am Fri 15 Jun 12

alfa111 says...

The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.
The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets. alfa111

10:26am Fri 15 Jun 12

benal13 says...

IN LAST NIGHTS PAPER ANDY CRYER SAID IN HIS COLUMN QUOTE :UNLESS A REAL BUDGET IS HANDED TO THE MANAGER TO STRENGTHEN THEY CAN FORGET PROMOTION:SHOULD THIS NOT HAVE READ A NEW MANAGER ANDY OR ARE YOU AND YOUR PAPER NOW BACKING KEAN.
IN LAST NIGHTS PAPER ANDY CRYER SAID IN HIS COLUMN QUOTE :UNLESS A REAL BUDGET IS HANDED TO THE MANAGER TO STRENGTHEN THEY CAN FORGET PROMOTION:SHOULD THIS NOT HAVE READ A NEW MANAGER ANDY OR ARE YOU AND YOUR PAPER NOW BACKING KEAN. benal13

10:30am Fri 15 Jun 12

tiojo says...

With the current manager and owners League One is a more likely destination for the Rovers than the Premiership. But then that might not be a bad thing. Just look at the Stanley in League Two, playing decent football with local players in front of a friendly (if small) crowd. Not a collection of expensive mercenaries playing for their bank balances. A scaled down future for Rovers might not be so bad.
With the current manager and owners League One is a more likely destination for the Rovers than the Premiership. But then that might not be a bad thing. Just look at the Stanley in League Two, playing decent football with local players in front of a friendly (if small) crowd. Not a collection of expensive mercenaries playing for their bank balances. A scaled down future for Rovers might not be so bad. tiojo

10:32am Fri 15 Jun 12

Cha'mone MF says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
Brilliant, just when you thought it couldn't get any better, Dumpburn have this dropped on them. Been eating fillet steak for years and now you're gonna have to chow down on corned beef.
.....welcome to the table chumps.
At least we've been eating fillet steak for 34 yrs. You haven't.
And now you're choking on it ! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Brilliant, what a great start to the weekend!
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cha'mone MF[/bold] wrote: Brilliant, just when you thought it couldn't get any better, Dumpburn have this dropped on them. Been eating fillet steak for years and now you're gonna have to chow down on corned beef. .....welcome to the table chumps.[/p][/quote]At least we've been eating fillet steak for 34 yrs. You haven't.[/p][/quote]And now you're choking on it ! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Brilliant, what a great start to the weekend! Cha'mone MF

10:36am Fri 15 Jun 12

Harwoodstblue says...

Cha'mone MF wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
Brilliant, just when you thought it couldn't get any better, Dumpburn have this dropped on them. Been eating fillet steak for years and now you're gonna have to chow down on corned beef.
.....welcome to the table chumps.
At least we've been eating fillet steak for 34 yrs. You haven't.
And now you're choking on it ! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Brilliant, what a great start to the weekend!
If by some miracle Dingles manage to beat us next season, you'll still have 33 yrs to even catch up. That's some playing catch up.
.
Keep eating the corned beef.
[quote][p][bold]Cha'mone MF[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cha'mone MF[/bold] wrote: Brilliant, just when you thought it couldn't get any better, Dumpburn have this dropped on them. Been eating fillet steak for years and now you're gonna have to chow down on corned beef. .....welcome to the table chumps.[/p][/quote]At least we've been eating fillet steak for 34 yrs. You haven't.[/p][/quote]And now you're choking on it ! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Brilliant, what a great start to the weekend![/p][/quote]If by some miracle Dingles manage to beat us next season, you'll still have 33 yrs to even catch up. That's some playing catch up. . Keep eating the corned beef. Harwoodstblue

10:39am Fri 15 Jun 12

Jack Herer says...

Cha'mone MF wrote:
Jack Herer wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
Brilliant, just when you thought it couldn't get any better, Dumpburn have this dropped on them. Been eating fillet steak for years and now you're gonna have to chow down on corned beef.
.....welcome to the table chumps.
We're still better than you Cha'mone.

You know that in your heart and you have to live with that.

I'm guessing that's why you're here acting like a goon. This, tragically, is as good as life gets for you.
You've started a bit early with the bong Jack ?
Lol, does the truth hurt Cha'mone?

Has life been crap for you, forever living in the shadow of better town, always wishing you were as good as us?

Your pressence here on the Rovers pages suggests so.
[quote][p][bold]Cha'mone MF[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jack Herer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cha'mone MF[/bold] wrote: Brilliant, just when you thought it couldn't get any better, Dumpburn have this dropped on them. Been eating fillet steak for years and now you're gonna have to chow down on corned beef. .....welcome to the table chumps.[/p][/quote]We're still better than you Cha'mone. You know that in your heart and you have to live with that. I'm guessing that's why you're here acting like a goon. This, tragically, is as good as life gets for you.[/p][/quote]You've started a bit early with the bong Jack ?[/p][/quote]Lol, does the truth hurt Cha'mone? Has life been crap for you, forever living in the shadow of better town, always wishing you were as good as us? Your pressence here on the Rovers pages suggests so. Jack Herer

10:39am Fri 15 Jun 12

Rovers 1495 says...

“You can imagine Rovers owners, and the money men of the other relegated clubs, looking at that deal and thinking ‘what have we done’."

Can you really ? Well that makes one of us. They haven't got a clue.
“You can imagine Rovers owners, and the money men of the other relegated clubs, looking at that deal and thinking ‘what have we done’." Can you really ? Well that makes one of us. They haven't got a clue. Rovers 1495

10:42am Fri 15 Jun 12

Chico! says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote: Brilliant, just when you thought it couldn't get any better, Dumpburn have this dropped on them. Been eating fillet steak for years and now you're gonna have to chow down on corned beef. .....welcome to the table chumps.
At least we've been eating fillet steak for 34 yrs. You haven't.
To be fair, they eat their own young in poor little Bonleh.

Set of Heathens...
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cha'mone MF[/bold] wrote: Brilliant, just when you thought it couldn't get any better, Dumpburn have this dropped on them. Been eating fillet steak for years and now you're gonna have to chow down on corned beef. .....welcome to the table chumps.[/p][/quote]At least we've been eating fillet steak for 34 yrs. You haven't.[/p][/quote]To be fair, they eat their own young in poor little Bonleh. Set of Heathens... Chico!

10:43am Fri 15 Jun 12

A Darener says...

So the Venky's must be sick to their stomachs seeing all the money they have thrown away. If only they had listened to the fans nearly 18 months ago or even 6 months ago and sacked SK they would now be looking forward to reaping the rewards of their purchase of the Rovers. But instead they have the hatred of thousands of people, the prospect of plummeting through the leagues and the sure knowledge that the rest of the world will be laughing at them. Their company has lost any respect it had. The Indian sport fans if they can be bothered will be saying serves you right, you should have invested in Indian sport. The value of their investment in the club will now be crashing through the floor and the only way they will get out with any dignity will be to either sell cheaply, or give the club away to the fans.
So the Venky's must be sick to their stomachs seeing all the money they have thrown away. If only they had listened to the fans nearly 18 months ago or even 6 months ago and sacked SK they would now be looking forward to reaping the rewards of their purchase of the Rovers. But instead they have the hatred of thousands of people, the prospect of plummeting through the leagues and the sure knowledge that the rest of the world will be laughing at them. Their company has lost any respect it had. The Indian sport fans if they can be bothered will be saying serves you right, you should have invested in Indian sport. The value of their investment in the club will now be crashing through the floor and the only way they will get out with any dignity will be to either sell cheaply, or give the club away to the fans. A Darener

10:47am Fri 15 Jun 12

fickle fan says...

alfa111 wrote:
The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.
The assets sold being ?
[quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.[/p][/quote]The assets sold being ? fickle fan

10:47am Fri 15 Jun 12

randompenguin says...

Harwoodstblue, Chico! & Jack Herer:

Don't feed the troll!
Harwoodstblue, Chico! & Jack Herer: Don't feed the troll! randompenguin

10:47am Fri 15 Jun 12

Cha'mone MF says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
Brilliant, just when you thought it couldn't get any better, Dumpburn have this dropped on them. Been eating fillet steak for years and now you're gonna have to chow down on corned beef.
.....welcome to the table chumps.
At least we've been eating fillet steak for 34 yrs. You haven't.
And now you're choking on it ! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Brilliant, what a great start to the weekend!
If by some miracle Dingles manage to beat us next season, you'll still have 33 yrs to even catch up. That's some playing catch up.
.
Keep eating the corned beef.
You just keep living in the past my fatherless meths swigging friend, this is the Dawn of a new age and you know it. You are already playing out the scenario of receiving a claret spanking in your tiny mind that's emptier than a hermits address book, and the realisation that you have missed out on millions upon millions of TV revenue just compounds your woe.

And to top it all off after the laboured performance Martin Olsson is going to put in against England tonight the best offer you'll get for him will be a jar of pickled eggs and a book of green shield stamps.
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cha'mone MF[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cha'mone MF[/bold] wrote: Brilliant, just when you thought it couldn't get any better, Dumpburn have this dropped on them. Been eating fillet steak for years and now you're gonna have to chow down on corned beef. .....welcome to the table chumps.[/p][/quote]At least we've been eating fillet steak for 34 yrs. You haven't.[/p][/quote]And now you're choking on it ! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Brilliant, what a great start to the weekend![/p][/quote]If by some miracle Dingles manage to beat us next season, you'll still have 33 yrs to even catch up. That's some playing catch up. . Keep eating the corned beef.[/p][/quote]You just keep living in the past my fatherless meths swigging friend, this is the Dawn of a new age and you know it. You are already playing out the scenario of receiving a claret spanking in your tiny mind that's emptier than a hermits address book, and the realisation that you have missed out on millions upon millions of TV revenue just compounds your woe. And to top it all off after the laboured performance Martin Olsson is going to put in against England tonight the best offer you'll get for him will be a jar of pickled eggs and a book of green shield stamps. Cha'mone MF

10:51am Fri 15 Jun 12

Harwoodstblue says...

A Darener wrote:
So the Venky's must be sick to their stomachs seeing all the money they have thrown away. If only they had listened to the fans nearly 18 months ago or even 6 months ago and sacked SK they would now be looking forward to reaping the rewards of their purchase of the Rovers. But instead they have the hatred of thousands of people, the prospect of plummeting through the leagues and the sure knowledge that the rest of the world will be laughing at them. Their company has lost any respect it had. The Indian sport fans if they can be bothered will be saying serves you right, you should have invested in Indian sport. The value of their investment in the club will now be crashing through the floor and the only way they will get out with any dignity will be to either sell cheaply, or give the club away to the fans.
And it serves them right.
.
When they bought the club they admitted they knew nothing about football, but through their arrogance thought they could do better than those who knew the game.
.
They deserve everything they're getting and more.
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: So the Venky's must be sick to their stomachs seeing all the money they have thrown away. If only they had listened to the fans nearly 18 months ago or even 6 months ago and sacked SK they would now be looking forward to reaping the rewards of their purchase of the Rovers. But instead they have the hatred of thousands of people, the prospect of plummeting through the leagues and the sure knowledge that the rest of the world will be laughing at them. Their company has lost any respect it had. The Indian sport fans if they can be bothered will be saying serves you right, you should have invested in Indian sport. The value of their investment in the club will now be crashing through the floor and the only way they will get out with any dignity will be to either sell cheaply, or give the club away to the fans.[/p][/quote]And it serves them right. . When they bought the club they admitted they knew nothing about football, but through their arrogance thought they could do better than those who knew the game. . They deserve everything they're getting and more. Harwoodstblue

11:18am Fri 15 Jun 12

BlueSkies says...

Venky's + others have screwed the fans and the club, but now their ineptitude has truly come back to bite them all.

Just how much they have let slip through their fingers? As Darener said, if only they had listened to the fans.

LMAO!
Venky's + others have screwed the fans and the club, but now their ineptitude has truly come back to bite them all. Just how much they have let slip through their fingers? As Darener said, if only they had listened to the fans. LMAO! BlueSkies

11:20am Fri 15 Jun 12

A Darener says...

They DO deserve everything they are getting and more...........
But the Fans don't! Whatever a Dingle may say.
There but for the grace of God and all that!
They DO deserve everything they are getting and more........... But the Fans don't! Whatever a Dingle may say. There but for the grace of God and all that! A Darener

11:28am Fri 15 Jun 12

benal13 says...

benal13 wrote:
IN LAST NIGHTS PAPER ANDY CRYER SAID IN HIS COLUMN QUOTE :UNLESS A REAL BUDGET IS HANDED TO THE MANAGER TO STRENGTHEN THEY CAN FORGET PROMOTION:SHOULD THIS NOT HAVE READ A NEW MANAGER ANDY OR ARE YOU AND YOUR PAPER NOW BACKING KEAN.
IM WAITING ANDY
[quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: IN LAST NIGHTS PAPER ANDY CRYER SAID IN HIS COLUMN QUOTE :UNLESS A REAL BUDGET IS HANDED TO THE MANAGER TO STRENGTHEN THEY CAN FORGET PROMOTION:SHOULD THIS NOT HAVE READ A NEW MANAGER ANDY OR ARE YOU AND YOUR PAPER NOW BACKING KEAN.[/p][/quote]IM WAITING ANDY benal13

11:32am Fri 15 Jun 12

Prophil says...

I wonder whether the reason that Kean has not been removed from his post is that he knows too much about the way in which Anderson and his agency operates - and in which Venky's are implicated. The hiring of Anderson's son, for instance, looks far more sinister even than Manchester United's hiring of Bebe. If Kean is sacked, then he will be in a position to spill the beans about the whole deplorable situation. It may even be that Kean himself is too scared to resign, even if he wants to - he may fear what Anderson and his gang can do to him more than he fears the ire of Blackburn, town and fans. So Venky's find themselves in this situation: either they keep Kean in place and keep him quiet, or pay him off with a large sum of money and a gagging clause, and keep him quiet that way. Or it may just simply be that Kean is self-deluded about his own ability to do the job. Who knows?
I wonder whether the reason that Kean has not been removed from his post is that he knows too much about the way in which Anderson and his agency operates - and in which Venky's are implicated. The hiring of Anderson's son, for instance, looks far more sinister even than Manchester United's hiring of Bebe. If Kean is sacked, then he will be in a position to spill the beans about the whole deplorable situation. It may even be that Kean himself is too scared to resign, even if he wants to - he may fear what Anderson and his gang can do to him more than he fears the ire of Blackburn, town and fans. So Venky's find themselves in this situation: either they keep Kean in place and keep him quiet, or pay him off with a large sum of money and a gagging clause, and keep him quiet that way. Or it may just simply be that Kean is self-deluded about his own ability to do the job. Who knows? Prophil

11:37am Fri 15 Jun 12

Roverthere says...

A Darener wrote:
So the Venky's must be sick to their stomachs seeing all the money they have thrown away. If only they had listened to the fans nearly 18 months ago or even 6 months ago and sacked SK they would now be looking forward to reaping the rewards of their purchase of the Rovers. But instead they have the hatred of thousands of people, the prospect of plummeting through the leagues and the sure knowledge that the rest of the world will be laughing at them. Their company has lost any respect it had. The Indian sport fans if they can be bothered will be saying serves you right, you should have invested in Indian sport. The value of their investment in the club will now be crashing through the floor and the only way they will get out with any dignity will be to either sell cheaply, or give the club away to the fans.
Yes, any sensible owner except these dumbfxxks and their puppet! Talk about thinking ahead!
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: So the Venky's must be sick to their stomachs seeing all the money they have thrown away. If only they had listened to the fans nearly 18 months ago or even 6 months ago and sacked SK they would now be looking forward to reaping the rewards of their purchase of the Rovers. But instead they have the hatred of thousands of people, the prospect of plummeting through the leagues and the sure knowledge that the rest of the world will be laughing at them. Their company has lost any respect it had. The Indian sport fans if they can be bothered will be saying serves you right, you should have invested in Indian sport. The value of their investment in the club will now be crashing through the floor and the only way they will get out with any dignity will be to either sell cheaply, or give the club away to the fans.[/p][/quote]Yes, any sensible owner except these dumbfxxks and their puppet! Talk about thinking ahead! Roverthere

11:48am Fri 15 Jun 12

alfa111 says...

fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.
The assets sold being ?
Don t you know?
[quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.[/p][/quote]The assets sold being ?[/p][/quote]Don t you know? alfa111

12:02pm Fri 15 Jun 12

Harwoodstblue says...

Prophil wrote:
I wonder whether the reason that Kean has not been removed from his post is that he knows too much about the way in which Anderson and his agency operates - and in which Venky's are implicated. The hiring of Anderson's son, for instance, looks far more sinister even than Manchester United's hiring of Bebe. If Kean is sacked, then he will be in a position to spill the beans about the whole deplorable situation. It may even be that Kean himself is too scared to resign, even if he wants to - he may fear what Anderson and his gang can do to him more than he fears the ire of Blackburn, town and fans. So Venky's find themselves in this situation: either they keep Kean in place and keep him quiet, or pay him off with a large sum of money and a gagging clause, and keep him quiet that way. Or it may just simply be that Kean is self-deluded about his own ability to do the job. Who knows?
I agree, Kean obviously knows too much and that's why they daren't sack him.
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He's so **** sure of himself, he knows he can't be sacked.
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I think Glen Mullen and BRAG are doing a fine job behind the scenes to expose this lot and they're running scared, hence the silence.
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It will all come out in the end.
[quote][p][bold]Prophil[/bold] wrote: I wonder whether the reason that Kean has not been removed from his post is that he knows too much about the way in which Anderson and his agency operates - and in which Venky's are implicated. The hiring of Anderson's son, for instance, looks far more sinister even than Manchester United's hiring of Bebe. If Kean is sacked, then he will be in a position to spill the beans about the whole deplorable situation. It may even be that Kean himself is too scared to resign, even if he wants to - he may fear what Anderson and his gang can do to him more than he fears the ire of Blackburn, town and fans. So Venky's find themselves in this situation: either they keep Kean in place and keep him quiet, or pay him off with a large sum of money and a gagging clause, and keep him quiet that way. Or it may just simply be that Kean is self-deluded about his own ability to do the job. Who knows?[/p][/quote]I agree, Kean obviously knows too much and that's why they daren't sack him. . He's so **** sure of himself, he knows he can't be sacked. . I think Glen Mullen and BRAG are doing a fine job behind the scenes to expose this lot and they're running scared, hence the silence. . It will all come out in the end. Harwoodstblue

12:12pm Fri 15 Jun 12

P888HOW says...

Blackpool blue ,
Come on Andy Cryer,do something for Blackburn rovers fans and the town ,get digging the dirt and report anything you find.
Blackpool blue , Come on Andy Cryer,do something for Blackburn rovers fans and the town ,get digging the dirt and report anything you find. P888HOW

12:20pm Fri 15 Jun 12

thetop5 says...

Jack Herer wrote:
So Venkys have lost millions and millions, yet they won't sack the man responsible.

Incompetant or corrupt are the only conclusions therefore.

With the only question remaining; why are they still not doing anything? Incompetant or corrupt?

Incompetance can only be used as an excuse for so long surely.
I agree. The only reason I can see for their action is that they are trying to sell the club and will leave Kean for someone else to sack.

I know they have made in investment in football in India, but there is no other logical reason why they would keep anyone as incompetent as Kean.
[quote][p][bold]Jack Herer[/bold] wrote: So Venkys have lost millions and millions, yet they won't sack the man responsible. Incompetant or corrupt are the only conclusions therefore. With the only question remaining; why are they still not doing anything? Incompetant or corrupt? Incompetance can only be used as an excuse for so long surely.[/p][/quote]I agree. The only reason I can see for their action is that they are trying to sell the club and will leave Kean for someone else to sack. I know they have made in investment in football in India, but there is no other logical reason why they would keep anyone as incompetent as Kean. thetop5

12:25pm Fri 15 Jun 12

stick to football says...

How long will the paralysis at Ewood Park continue ?

To those who gave them the benefit of the doubt that they would act - the proof is there no actionb no idea no integrity.

As for the money they dont deserve it - hope they are satisfied because the longer it goes on the moore the conspiracy theory starts to be believed - Get out now or do something
How long will the paralysis at Ewood Park continue ? To those who gave them the benefit of the doubt that they would act - the proof is there no actionb no idea no integrity. As for the money they dont deserve it - hope they are satisfied because the longer it goes on the moore the conspiracy theory starts to be believed - Get out now or do something stick to football

12:28pm Fri 15 Jun 12

A Darener says...

Fixtures out Monday. Let's hope the first game is at home, then we will be able to see just how affective the call for an attendance boycott has been.
We must hope that the majority of fans despite their obvious disappointment at missing an opening fixture, some for the first time in decades keep to their promise of not attending matches whilst SK's still in charge.
That will show the owners that we are serious in our intention of not put a penny more into their coffers.
Fixtures out Monday. Let's hope the first game is at home, then we will be able to see just how affective the call for an attendance boycott has been. We must hope that the majority of fans despite their obvious disappointment at missing an opening fixture, some for the first time in decades keep to their promise of not attending matches whilst SK's still in charge. That will show the owners that we are serious in our intention of not put a penny more into their coffers. A Darener

12:33pm Fri 15 Jun 12

givet82 says...

Cha'mone MF wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
Brilliant, just when you thought it couldn't get any better, Dumpburn have this dropped on them. Been eating fillet steak for years and now you're gonna have to chow down on corned beef.
.....welcome to the table chumps.
At least we've been eating fillet steak for 34 yrs. You haven't.
And now you're choking on it ! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Brilliant, what a great start to the weekend!
If by some miracle Dingles manage to beat us next season, you'll still have 33 yrs to even catch up. That's some playing catch up.
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Keep eating the corned beef.
You just keep living in the past my fatherless meths swigging friend, this is the Dawn of a new age and you know it. You are already playing out the scenario of receiving a claret spanking in your tiny mind that's emptier than a hermits address book, and the realisation that you have missed out on millions upon millions of TV revenue just compounds your woe.

And to top it all off after the laboured performance Martin Olsson is going to put in against England tonight the best offer you'll get for him will be a jar of pickled eggs and a book of green shield stamps.
really chamone, i recall our last meeting at turd were he embarassed your defence and hit the bar about 50 times
[quote][p][bold]Cha'mone MF[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cha'mone MF[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cha'mone MF[/bold] wrote: Brilliant, just when you thought it couldn't get any better, Dumpburn have this dropped on them. Been eating fillet steak for years and now you're gonna have to chow down on corned beef. .....welcome to the table chumps.[/p][/quote]At least we've been eating fillet steak for 34 yrs. You haven't.[/p][/quote]And now you're choking on it ! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Brilliant, what a great start to the weekend![/p][/quote]If by some miracle Dingles manage to beat us next season, you'll still have 33 yrs to even catch up. That's some playing catch up. . Keep eating the corned beef.[/p][/quote]You just keep living in the past my fatherless meths swigging friend, this is the Dawn of a new age and you know it. You are already playing out the scenario of receiving a claret spanking in your tiny mind that's emptier than a hermits address book, and the realisation that you have missed out on millions upon millions of TV revenue just compounds your woe. And to top it all off after the laboured performance Martin Olsson is going to put in against England tonight the best offer you'll get for him will be a jar of pickled eggs and a book of green shield stamps.[/p][/quote]really chamone, i recall our last meeting at turd were he embarassed your defence and hit the bar about 50 times givet82

12:33pm Fri 15 Jun 12

givet82 says...

Cha'mone MF wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
Brilliant, just when you thought it couldn't get any better, Dumpburn have this dropped on them. Been eating fillet steak for years and now you're gonna have to chow down on corned beef.
.....welcome to the table chumps.
At least we've been eating fillet steak for 34 yrs. You haven't.
And now you're choking on it ! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Brilliant, what a great start to the weekend!
If by some miracle Dingles manage to beat us next season, you'll still have 33 yrs to even catch up. That's some playing catch up.
.
Keep eating the corned beef.
You just keep living in the past my fatherless meths swigging friend, this is the Dawn of a new age and you know it. You are already playing out the scenario of receiving a claret spanking in your tiny mind that's emptier than a hermits address book, and the realisation that you have missed out on millions upon millions of TV revenue just compounds your woe.

And to top it all off after the laboured performance Martin Olsson is going to put in against England tonight the best offer you'll get for him will be a jar of pickled eggs and a book of green shield stamps.
really chamone, i recall our last meeting at turd were he embarassed your defence and hit the bar about 50 times
[quote][p][bold]Cha'mone MF[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cha'mone MF[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cha'mone MF[/bold] wrote: Brilliant, just when you thought it couldn't get any better, Dumpburn have this dropped on them. Been eating fillet steak for years and now you're gonna have to chow down on corned beef. .....welcome to the table chumps.[/p][/quote]At least we've been eating fillet steak for 34 yrs. You haven't.[/p][/quote]And now you're choking on it ! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Brilliant, what a great start to the weekend![/p][/quote]If by some miracle Dingles manage to beat us next season, you'll still have 33 yrs to even catch up. That's some playing catch up. . Keep eating the corned beef.[/p][/quote]You just keep living in the past my fatherless meths swigging friend, this is the Dawn of a new age and you know it. You are already playing out the scenario of receiving a claret spanking in your tiny mind that's emptier than a hermits address book, and the realisation that you have missed out on millions upon millions of TV revenue just compounds your woe. And to top it all off after the laboured performance Martin Olsson is going to put in against England tonight the best offer you'll get for him will be a jar of pickled eggs and a book of green shield stamps.[/p][/quote]really chamone, i recall our last meeting at turd were he embarassed your defence and hit the bar about 50 times givet82

1:07pm Fri 15 Jun 12

ivegillian says...

Hello again Mr Agnew - this is getting so tedious!

Still not a word from our new "general manager/communicatio
ns director" despite the fact that -

- local MPs are expressing their concerns directly to the FA - and they are listening

- the Sports Minister has been presented with a comprehensive perspective of the shambles you are now presiding over - and he apparently was listening also

- the Premier League have been made aware of the concerns the fans have - and seemed to have listened as well

- our single major sponsor and others are initiating a seemingly well organised attempt to take back control of the club on behalf of the fans

- your manager and the club apparently face legal proceedings

- many of the players seemingly want to leave the club

Obviously some or possibly all of these issues may result in nothing but surely something approaching concern must be registering with your employers and presumably yourself.

The sad fact is that the little we know of you Mr Agnew does not lead us to believe that you will be able to orchestrate and deliver a set of solutions that will appease the vast majority of supporters.

The mere fact that you have a seemingly strong association with the person who has the title - but does not deliver on the responsibilities - of 'manager' of the team - Mr Kean - will remove every shred of credibility you believe you may have in the eyes of the supporter and that will remain until that man gets the rewards he truly deserves - wake up to that fact Mr Agnew.




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Hello again Mr Agnew - this is getting so tedious! Still not a word from our new "general manager/communicatio ns director" despite the fact that - - local MPs are expressing their concerns directly to the FA - and they are listening - the Sports Minister has been presented with a comprehensive perspective of the shambles you are now presiding over - and he apparently was listening also - the Premier League have been made aware of the concerns the fans have - and seemed to have listened as well - our single major sponsor and others are initiating a seemingly well organised attempt to take back control of the club on behalf of the fans - your manager and the club apparently face legal proceedings - many of the players seemingly want to leave the club Obviously some or possibly all of these issues may result in nothing but surely something approaching concern must be registering with your employers and presumably yourself. The sad fact is that the little we know of you Mr Agnew does not lead us to believe that you will be able to orchestrate and deliver a set of solutions that will appease the vast majority of supporters. The mere fact that you have a seemingly strong association with the person who has the title - but does not deliver on the responsibilities - of 'manager' of the team - Mr Kean - will remove every shred of credibility you believe you may have in the eyes of the supporter and that will remain until that man gets the rewards he truly deserves - wake up to that fact Mr Agnew. - ivegillian

1:10pm Fri 15 Jun 12

fickle fan says...

alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.
The assets sold being ?
Don t you know?
No I dont so please enlighten me because you must know
[quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.[/p][/quote]The assets sold being ?[/p][/quote]Don t you know?[/p][/quote]No I dont so please enlighten me because you must know fickle fan

1:16pm Fri 15 Jun 12

alfa111 says...

fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.
The assets sold being ?
Don t you know?
No I dont so please enlighten me because you must know
No point in enlightening a wet fire read the comments fans put on here and take it in, better still go on the dingles site and talk to your self
[quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.[/p][/quote]The assets sold being ?[/p][/quote]Don t you know?[/p][/quote]No I dont so please enlighten me because you must know[/p][/quote]No point in enlightening a wet fire read the comments fans put on here and take it in, better still go on the dingles site and talk to your self alfa111

1:26pm Fri 15 Jun 12

fickle fan says...

alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.
The assets sold being ?
Don t you know?
No I dont so please enlighten me because you must know
[quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.[/p][/quote]The assets sold being ?[/p][/quote]Don t you know?[/p][/quote]No I dont so please enlighten me because you must know fickle fan

1:26pm Fri 15 Jun 12

Bombay Duck Club says...

A Darener wrote:
So the Venky's must be sick to their stomachs seeing all the money they have thrown away. If only they had listened to the fans nearly 18 months ago or even 6 months ago and sacked SK they would now be looking forward to reaping the rewards of their purchase of the Rovers. But instead they have the hatred of thousands of people, the prospect of plummeting through the leagues and the sure knowledge that the rest of the world will be laughing at them. Their company has lost any respect it had. The Indian sport fans if they can be bothered will be saying serves you right, you should have invested in Indian sport. The value of their investment in the club will now be crashing through the floor and the only way they will get out with any dignity will be to either sell cheaply, or give the club away to the fans.
Absolutely spot on. These clowns just stumble from one humiliating disaster to another. I would love to have a season ticket to Venky's board meetings it must be like watching Father Ted.
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: So the Venky's must be sick to their stomachs seeing all the money they have thrown away. If only they had listened to the fans nearly 18 months ago or even 6 months ago and sacked SK they would now be looking forward to reaping the rewards of their purchase of the Rovers. But instead they have the hatred of thousands of people, the prospect of plummeting through the leagues and the sure knowledge that the rest of the world will be laughing at them. Their company has lost any respect it had. The Indian sport fans if they can be bothered will be saying serves you right, you should have invested in Indian sport. The value of their investment in the club will now be crashing through the floor and the only way they will get out with any dignity will be to either sell cheaply, or give the club away to the fans.[/p][/quote]Absolutely spot on. These clowns just stumble from one humiliating disaster to another. I would love to have a season ticket to Venky's board meetings it must be like watching Father Ted. Bombay Duck Club

1:28pm Fri 15 Jun 12

alfa111 says...

alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.
The assets sold being ?
Don t you know?
No I dont so please enlighten me because you must know
No point in enlightening a wet fire read the comments fans put on here and take it in, better still go on the dingles site and talk to your self
WAKE UP tickle tan
[quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.[/p][/quote]The assets sold being ?[/p][/quote]Don t you know?[/p][/quote]No I dont so please enlighten me because you must know[/p][/quote]No point in enlightening a wet fire read the comments fans put on here and take it in, better still go on the dingles site and talk to your self[/p][/quote]WAKE UP tickle tan alfa111

1:33pm Fri 15 Jun 12

Sam-the-Man says...

A Darener wrote:
Fixtures out Monday. Let's hope the first game is at home, then we will be able to see just how affective the call for an attendance boycott has been.
We must hope that the majority of fans despite their obvious disappointment at missing an opening fixture, some for the first time in decades keep to their promise of not attending matches whilst SK's still in charge.
That will show the owners that we are serious in our intention of not put a penny more into their coffers.
I havent been and have no intention of going to Ewood while the chickens farmers are in control and Gollum is the manager but... What if the first home game of the season is against Bunleh? That would really test all our resolves.

DKO
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Fixtures out Monday. Let's hope the first game is at home, then we will be able to see just how affective the call for an attendance boycott has been. We must hope that the majority of fans despite their obvious disappointment at missing an opening fixture, some for the first time in decades keep to their promise of not attending matches whilst SK's still in charge. That will show the owners that we are serious in our intention of not put a penny more into their coffers.[/p][/quote]I havent been and have no intention of going to Ewood while the chickens farmers are in control and Gollum is the manager but... What if the first home game of the season is against Bunleh? That would really test all our resolves. DKO Sam-the-Man

1:36pm Fri 15 Jun 12

bring back the good old days says...

benal13 wrote:
IN LAST NIGHTS PAPER ANDY CRYER SAID IN HIS COLUMN QUOTE :UNLESS A REAL BUDGET IS HANDED TO THE MANAGER TO STRENGTHEN THEY CAN FORGET PROMOTION:SHOULD THIS NOT HAVE READ A NEW MANAGER ANDY OR ARE YOU AND YOUR PAPER NOW BACKING KEAN.
I think you will find that Andy or LT do not actually employ Kean, so therefore cannot sack him.
It is quite obvious to anyone that Kean, even though not officially announced, is still to be manager of BRFC for the foreseeable.
They/he has used the term 'the manager' and in this context and at his present time does mean Kean. This does not mean he is supported or welcomed, but is an acknowledgement of fact.
I think we can all agree that the gist of this; 'we need serious investment into the playing staff' is undeniable. Having said that this does not imply that this will give us the edge to garner us with promotion. But, without it, it would certainly mean we would not be challenging.
Yes a new manager would be nice, but it is looking very unlikely at this point in time.

As for the loss of increased revenue from the Prem 'gravy train', this is going to be more severely felt in the coming decade as things continue to go from bad to worse, in part affected by the continued chaos in the financial world.
Venkys will take the initial hit, but BRFC will sustain the severe long term impact.
[quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: IN LAST NIGHTS PAPER ANDY CRYER SAID IN HIS COLUMN QUOTE :UNLESS A REAL BUDGET IS HANDED TO THE MANAGER TO STRENGTHEN THEY CAN FORGET PROMOTION:SHOULD THIS NOT HAVE READ A NEW MANAGER ANDY OR ARE YOU AND YOUR PAPER NOW BACKING KEAN.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that Andy or LT do not actually employ Kean, so therefore cannot sack him. It is quite obvious to anyone that Kean, even though not officially announced, is still to be manager of BRFC for the foreseeable. They/he has used the term 'the manager' and in this context and at his present time does mean Kean. This does not mean he is supported or welcomed, but is an acknowledgement of fact. I think we can all agree that the gist of this; 'we need serious investment into the playing staff' is undeniable. Having said that this does not imply that this will give us the edge to garner us with promotion. But, without it, it would certainly mean we would not be challenging. Yes a new manager would be nice, but it is looking very unlikely at this point in time. As for the loss of increased revenue from the Prem 'gravy train', this is going to be more severely felt in the coming decade as things continue to go from bad to worse, in part affected by the continued chaos in the financial world. Venkys will take the initial hit, but BRFC will sustain the severe long term impact. bring back the good old days

1:38pm Fri 15 Jun 12

Lancs - pensioner says...

A Darener wrote:
So the Venky's must be sick to their stomachs seeing all the money they have thrown away. If only they had listened to the fans nearly 18 months ago or even 6 months ago and sacked SK they would now be looking forward to reaping the rewards of their purchase of the Rovers. But instead they have the hatred of thousands of people, the prospect of plummeting through the leagues and the sure knowledge that the rest of the world will be laughing at them. Their company has lost any respect it had. The Indian sport fans if they can be bothered will be saying serves you right, you should have invested in Indian sport. The value of their investment in the club will now be crashing through the floor and the only way they will get out with any dignity will be to either sell cheaply, or give the club away to the fans.
Hi Darener,
Could not have put it better, this news had made my day knowing the Venkys have lost millions MORE because of their loyalty to Kean and Anderson, as one blogger on here has already stated they are either incompetent or corrupt, In my opinion its defiantly the second.

Ha ha ha ha made my day, millions down the drain millions and its all down to you Kean.
Let’s keep the pressure on Fans
No to buying any ST
No to buying any Merchandise
Not until Kean is sacked.
The tide is slowly turning!!
P.S. Has Myles Andersan played a game for BRFC yet, with great three year contract surely he has?
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: So the Venky's must be sick to their stomachs seeing all the money they have thrown away. If only they had listened to the fans nearly 18 months ago or even 6 months ago and sacked SK they would now be looking forward to reaping the rewards of their purchase of the Rovers. But instead they have the hatred of thousands of people, the prospect of plummeting through the leagues and the sure knowledge that the rest of the world will be laughing at them. Their company has lost any respect it had. The Indian sport fans if they can be bothered will be saying serves you right, you should have invested in Indian sport. The value of their investment in the club will now be crashing through the floor and the only way they will get out with any dignity will be to either sell cheaply, or give the club away to the fans.[/p][/quote]Hi Darener, Could not have put it better, this news had made my day knowing the Venkys have lost millions MORE because of their loyalty to Kean and Anderson, as one blogger on here has already stated they are either incompetent or corrupt, In my opinion its defiantly the second. Ha ha ha ha made my day, millions down the drain millions and its all down to you Kean. Let’s keep the pressure on Fans No to buying any ST No to buying any Merchandise Not until Kean is sacked. The tide is slowly turning!! P.S. Has Myles Andersan played a game for BRFC yet, with great three year contract surely he has? Lancs - pensioner

1:40pm Fri 15 Jun 12

fickle fan says...

alfa111 wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.
The assets sold being ?
Don t you know?
No I dont so please enlighten me because you must know
No point in enlightening a wet fire read the comments fans put on here and take it in, better still go on the dingles site and talk to your self
WAKE UP tickle tan
So you admit then you just come on here, state assets are being sold, Haven't a clue what assets have been sold, can`t tell me what assets you mean then tell me to wake up because everyone knows what assets have been sold.
Just to make it easy for you , a simple question just list what assets have been sold so we all are very clear what you mean
[quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.[/p][/quote]The assets sold being ?[/p][/quote]Don t you know?[/p][/quote]No I dont so please enlighten me because you must know[/p][/quote]No point in enlightening a wet fire read the comments fans put on here and take it in, better still go on the dingles site and talk to your self[/p][/quote]WAKE UP tickle tan[/p][/quote]So you admit then you just come on here, state assets are being sold, Haven't a clue what assets have been sold, can`t tell me what assets you mean then tell me to wake up because everyone knows what assets have been sold. Just to make it easy for you , a simple question just list what assets have been sold so we all are very clear what you mean fickle fan

1:55pm Fri 15 Jun 12

alfa111 says...

fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.
The assets sold being ?
Don t you know?
No I dont so please enlighten me because you must know
No point in enlightening a wet fire read the comments fans put on here and take it in, better still go on the dingles site and talk to your self
WAKE UP tickle tan
So you admit then you just come on here, state assets are being sold, Haven't a clue what assets have been sold, can`t tell me what assets you mean then tell me to wake up because everyone knows what assets have been sold.
Just to make it easy for you , a simple question just list what assets have been sold so we all are very clear what you mean
ONCE again no point enlightening a WET FIRE .time for you to talk to the hand.
[quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.[/p][/quote]The assets sold being ?[/p][/quote]Don t you know?[/p][/quote]No I dont so please enlighten me because you must know[/p][/quote]No point in enlightening a wet fire read the comments fans put on here and take it in, better still go on the dingles site and talk to your self[/p][/quote]WAKE UP tickle tan[/p][/quote]So you admit then you just come on here, state assets are being sold, Haven't a clue what assets have been sold, can`t tell me what assets you mean then tell me to wake up because everyone knows what assets have been sold. Just to make it easy for you , a simple question just list what assets have been sold so we all are very clear what you mean[/p][/quote]ONCE again no point enlightening a WET FIRE .time for you to talk to the hand. alfa111

1:58pm Fri 15 Jun 12

benal13 says...

bring back the good old days wrote:
benal13 wrote:
IN LAST NIGHTS PAPER ANDY CRYER SAID IN HIS COLUMN QUOTE :UNLESS A REAL BUDGET IS HANDED TO THE MANAGER TO STRENGTHEN THEY CAN FORGET PROMOTION:SHOULD THIS NOT HAVE READ A NEW MANAGER ANDY OR ARE YOU AND YOUR PAPER NOW BACKING KEAN.
I think you will find that Andy or LT do not actually employ Kean, so therefore cannot sack him.
It is quite obvious to anyone that Kean, even though not officially announced, is still to be manager of BRFC for the foreseeable.
They/he has used the term 'the manager' and in this context and at his present time does mean Kean. This does not mean he is supported or welcomed, but is an acknowledgement of fact.
I think we can all agree that the gist of this; 'we need serious investment into the playing staff' is undeniable. Having said that this does not imply that this will give us the edge to garner us with promotion. But, without it, it would certainly mean we would not be challenging.
Yes a new manager would be nice, but it is looking very unlikely at this point in time.

As for the loss of increased revenue from the Prem 'gravy train', this is going to be more severely felt in the coming decade as things continue to go from bad to worse, in part affected by the continued chaos in the financial world.
Venkys will take the initial hit, but BRFC will sustain the severe long term impact.
SMART ****
[quote][p][bold]bring back the good old days[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: IN LAST NIGHTS PAPER ANDY CRYER SAID IN HIS COLUMN QUOTE :UNLESS A REAL BUDGET IS HANDED TO THE MANAGER TO STRENGTHEN THEY CAN FORGET PROMOTION:SHOULD THIS NOT HAVE READ A NEW MANAGER ANDY OR ARE YOU AND YOUR PAPER NOW BACKING KEAN.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that Andy or LT do not actually employ Kean, so therefore cannot sack him. It is quite obvious to anyone that Kean, even though not officially announced, is still to be manager of BRFC for the foreseeable. They/he has used the term 'the manager' and in this context and at his present time does mean Kean. This does not mean he is supported or welcomed, but is an acknowledgement of fact. I think we can all agree that the gist of this; 'we need serious investment into the playing staff' is undeniable. Having said that this does not imply that this will give us the edge to garner us with promotion. But, without it, it would certainly mean we would not be challenging. Yes a new manager would be nice, but it is looking very unlikely at this point in time. As for the loss of increased revenue from the Prem 'gravy train', this is going to be more severely felt in the coming decade as things continue to go from bad to worse, in part affected by the continued chaos in the financial world. Venkys will take the initial hit, but BRFC will sustain the severe long term impact.[/p][/quote]SMART **** benal13

2:02pm Fri 15 Jun 12

fickle fan says...

alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.
The assets sold being ?
Don t you know?
No I dont so please enlighten me because you must know
No point in enlightening a wet fire read the comments fans put on here and take it in, better still go on the dingles site and talk to your self
WAKE UP tickle tan
So you admit then you just come on here, state assets are being sold, Haven't a clue what assets have been sold, can`t tell me what assets you mean then tell me to wake up because everyone knows what assets have been sold.
Just to make it easy for you , a simple question just list what assets have been sold so we all are very clear what you mean
ONCE again no point enlightening a WET FIRE .time for you to talk to the hand.
So you cant state which assets have been sold and revert to name calling and threats wow
[quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.[/p][/quote]The assets sold being ?[/p][/quote]Don t you know?[/p][/quote]No I dont so please enlighten me because you must know[/p][/quote]No point in enlightening a wet fire read the comments fans put on here and take it in, better still go on the dingles site and talk to your self[/p][/quote]WAKE UP tickle tan[/p][/quote]So you admit then you just come on here, state assets are being sold, Haven't a clue what assets have been sold, can`t tell me what assets you mean then tell me to wake up because everyone knows what assets have been sold. Just to make it easy for you , a simple question just list what assets have been sold so we all are very clear what you mean[/p][/quote]ONCE again no point enlightening a WET FIRE .time for you to talk to the hand.[/p][/quote]So you cant state which assets have been sold and revert to name calling and threats wow fickle fan

2:06pm Fri 15 Jun 12

benal13 says...

fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.
The assets sold being ?
Don t you know?
No I dont so please enlighten me because you must know
No point in enlightening a wet fire read the comments fans put on here and take it in, better still go on the dingles site and talk to your self
WAKE UP tickle tan
So you admit then you just come on here, state assets are being sold, Haven't a clue what assets have been sold, can`t tell me what assets you mean then tell me to wake up because everyone knows what assets have been sold.
Just to make it easy for you , a simple question just list what assets have been sold so we all are very clear what you mean
ONCE again no point enlightening a WET FIRE .time for you to talk to the hand.
So you cant state which assets have been sold and revert to name calling and threats wow
F I G H T
[quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.[/p][/quote]The assets sold being ?[/p][/quote]Don t you know?[/p][/quote]No I dont so please enlighten me because you must know[/p][/quote]No point in enlightening a wet fire read the comments fans put on here and take it in, better still go on the dingles site and talk to your self[/p][/quote]WAKE UP tickle tan[/p][/quote]So you admit then you just come on here, state assets are being sold, Haven't a clue what assets have been sold, can`t tell me what assets you mean then tell me to wake up because everyone knows what assets have been sold. Just to make it easy for you , a simple question just list what assets have been sold so we all are very clear what you mean[/p][/quote]ONCE again no point enlightening a WET FIRE .time for you to talk to the hand.[/p][/quote]So you cant state which assets have been sold and revert to name calling and threats wow[/p][/quote]F I G H T benal13

2:09pm Fri 15 Jun 12

fickle fan says...

benal13 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.
The assets sold being ?
Don t you know?
No I dont so please enlighten me because you must know
No point in enlightening a wet fire read the comments fans put on here and take it in, better still go on the dingles site and talk to your self
WAKE UP tickle tan
So you admit then you just come on here, state assets are being sold, Haven't a clue what assets have been sold, can`t tell me what assets you mean then tell me to wake up because everyone knows what assets have been sold.
Just to make it easy for you , a simple question just list what assets have been sold so we all are very clear what you mean
ONCE again no point enlightening a WET FIRE .time for you to talk to the hand.
So you cant state which assets have been sold and revert to name calling and threats wow
F I G H T
No just some one struggling to say what assets have been sold
[quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.[/p][/quote]The assets sold being ?[/p][/quote]Don t you know?[/p][/quote]No I dont so please enlighten me because you must know[/p][/quote]No point in enlightening a wet fire read the comments fans put on here and take it in, better still go on the dingles site and talk to your self[/p][/quote]WAKE UP tickle tan[/p][/quote]So you admit then you just come on here, state assets are being sold, Haven't a clue what assets have been sold, can`t tell me what assets you mean then tell me to wake up because everyone knows what assets have been sold. Just to make it easy for you , a simple question just list what assets have been sold so we all are very clear what you mean[/p][/quote]ONCE again no point enlightening a WET FIRE .time for you to talk to the hand.[/p][/quote]So you cant state which assets have been sold and revert to name calling and threats wow[/p][/quote]F I G H T[/p][/quote]No just some one struggling to say what assets have been sold fickle fan

2:10pm Fri 15 Jun 12

alfa111 says...

fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.
The assets sold being ?
Don t you know?
No I dont so please enlighten me because you must know
No point in enlightening a wet fire read the comments fans put on here and take it in, better still go on the dingles site and talk to your self
WAKE UP tickle tan
So you admit then you just come on here, state assets are being sold, Haven't a clue what assets have been sold, can`t tell me what assets you mean then tell me to wake up because everyone knows what assets have been sold.
Just to make it easy for you , a simple question just list what assets have been sold so we all are very clear what you mean
ONCE again no point enlightening a WET FIRE .time for you to talk to the hand.
So you cant state which assets have been sold and revert to name calling and threats wow
Dont be so sensitive, just because i cant be bothered to waist any more time installing reason with you, deary me we are sensitive aren't we.
[quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.[/p][/quote]The assets sold being ?[/p][/quote]Don t you know?[/p][/quote]No I dont so please enlighten me because you must know[/p][/quote]No point in enlightening a wet fire read the comments fans put on here and take it in, better still go on the dingles site and talk to your self[/p][/quote]WAKE UP tickle tan[/p][/quote]So you admit then you just come on here, state assets are being sold, Haven't a clue what assets have been sold, can`t tell me what assets you mean then tell me to wake up because everyone knows what assets have been sold. Just to make it easy for you , a simple question just list what assets have been sold so we all are very clear what you mean[/p][/quote]ONCE again no point enlightening a WET FIRE .time for you to talk to the hand.[/p][/quote]So you cant state which assets have been sold and revert to name calling and threats wow[/p][/quote]Dont be so sensitive, just because i cant be bothered to waist any more time installing reason with you, deary me we are sensitive aren't we. alfa111

2:13pm Fri 15 Jun 12

MxMave says...

Bet Venkys regret not listening to the fans. If they'd have listened to us a year ago we'd probably still be in the prem.
Bet Venkys regret not listening to the fans. If they'd have listened to us a year ago we'd probably still be in the prem. MxMave

2:19pm Fri 15 Jun 12

fickle fan says...

not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats,
+ I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW
just answer the question what assets are you on about simples
not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats, + I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW just answer the question what assets are you on about simples fickle fan

2:22pm Fri 15 Jun 12

fickle fan says...

alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.
The assets sold being ?
Don t you know?
No I dont so please enlighten me because you must know
No point in enlightening a wet fire read the comments fans put on here and take it in, better still go on the dingles site and talk to your self
WAKE UP tickle tan
So you admit then you just come on here, state assets are being sold, Haven't a clue what assets have been sold, can`t tell me what assets you mean then tell me to wake up because everyone knows what assets have been sold.
Just to make it easy for you , a simple question just list what assets have been sold so we all are very clear what you mean
ONCE again no point enlightening a WET FIRE .time for you to talk to the hand.
So you cant state which assets have been sold and revert to name calling and threats wow
Dont be so sensitive, just because i cant be bothered to waist any more time installing reason with you, deary me we are sensitive aren't we.
not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats,
+ I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, then you threaten WOW
just answer the question what assets are you on about simples
[quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.[/p][/quote]The assets sold being ?[/p][/quote]Don t you know?[/p][/quote]No I dont so please enlighten me because you must know[/p][/quote]No point in enlightening a wet fire read the comments fans put on here and take it in, better still go on the dingles site and talk to your self[/p][/quote]WAKE UP tickle tan[/p][/quote]So you admit then you just come on here, state assets are being sold, Haven't a clue what assets have been sold, can`t tell me what assets you mean then tell me to wake up because everyone knows what assets have been sold. Just to make it easy for you , a simple question just list what assets have been sold so we all are very clear what you mean[/p][/quote]ONCE again no point enlightening a WET FIRE .time for you to talk to the hand.[/p][/quote]So you cant state which assets have been sold and revert to name calling and threats wow[/p][/quote]Dont be so sensitive, just because i cant be bothered to waist any more time installing reason with you, deary me we are sensitive aren't we.[/p][/quote]not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats, + I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, then you threaten WOW just answer the question what assets are you on about simples fickle fan

2:26pm Fri 15 Jun 12

BlueSkies says...

Well, all of the culprits, Venky's, Kean, Hans Christian, other agents, Glasgow crooks (if true), I hope you're doing the Mathematics and working out how much you could have made.

A bit like winning the lottery then the dog chews up and eats the ticket.

Is this what some folk call KARMA?
Well, all of the culprits, Venky's, Kean, Hans Christian, other agents, Glasgow crooks (if true), I hope you're doing the Mathematics and working out how much you could have made. A bit like winning the lottery then the dog chews up and eats the ticket. Is this what some folk call KARMA? BlueSkies

2:28pm Fri 15 Jun 12

Rovers 1495 says...

Lancs - pensioner wrote:
A Darener wrote:
So the Venky's must be sick to their stomachs seeing all the money they have thrown away. If only they had listened to the fans nearly 18 months ago or even 6 months ago and sacked SK they would now be looking forward to reaping the rewards of their purchase of the Rovers. But instead they have the hatred of thousands of people, the prospect of plummeting through the leagues and the sure knowledge that the rest of the world will be laughing at them. Their company has lost any respect it had. The Indian sport fans if they can be bothered will be saying serves you right, you should have invested in Indian sport. The value of their investment in the club will now be crashing through the floor and the only way they will get out with any dignity will be to either sell cheaply, or give the club away to the fans.
Hi Darener,
Could not have put it better, this news had made my day knowing the Venkys have lost millions MORE because of their loyalty to Kean and Anderson, as one blogger on here has already stated they are either incompetent or corrupt, In my opinion its defiantly the second.

Ha ha ha ha made my day, millions down the drain millions and its all down to you Kean.
Let’s keep the pressure on Fans
No to buying any ST
No to buying any Merchandise
Not until Kean is sacked.
The tide is slowly turning!!
P.S. Has Myles Andersan played a game for BRFC yet, with great three year contract surely he has?
Don't remember him hitting the ground running, unlike Dennis, sorry Bruno ...
[quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: So the Venky's must be sick to their stomachs seeing all the money they have thrown away. If only they had listened to the fans nearly 18 months ago or even 6 months ago and sacked SK they would now be looking forward to reaping the rewards of their purchase of the Rovers. But instead they have the hatred of thousands of people, the prospect of plummeting through the leagues and the sure knowledge that the rest of the world will be laughing at them. Their company has lost any respect it had. The Indian sport fans if they can be bothered will be saying serves you right, you should have invested in Indian sport. The value of their investment in the club will now be crashing through the floor and the only way they will get out with any dignity will be to either sell cheaply, or give the club away to the fans.[/p][/quote]Hi Darener, Could not have put it better, this news had made my day knowing the Venkys have lost millions MORE because of their loyalty to Kean and Anderson, as one blogger on here has already stated they are either incompetent or corrupt, In my opinion its defiantly the second. Ha ha ha ha made my day, millions down the drain millions and its all down to you Kean. Let’s keep the pressure on Fans No to buying any ST No to buying any Merchandise Not until Kean is sacked. The tide is slowly turning!! P.S. Has Myles Andersan played a game for BRFC yet, with great three year contract surely he has?[/p][/quote]Don't remember him hitting the ground running, unlike Dennis, sorry Bruno ... Rovers 1495

2:30pm Fri 15 Jun 12

alfa111 says...

fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.
The assets sold being ?
Don t you know?
No I dont so please enlighten me because you must know
No point in enlightening a wet fire read the comments fans put on here and take it in, better still go on the dingles site and talk to your self
WAKE UP tickle tan
So you admit then you just come on here, state assets are being sold, Haven't a clue what assets have been sold, can`t tell me what assets you mean then tell me to wake up because everyone knows what assets have been sold.
Just to make it easy for you , a simple question just list what assets have been sold so we all are very clear what you mean
ONCE again no point enlightening a WET FIRE .time for you to talk to the hand.
So you cant state which assets have been sold and revert to name calling and threats wow
Dont be so sensitive, just because i cant be bothered to waist any more time installing reason with you, deary me we are sensitive aren't we.
not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats,
+ I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, then you threaten WOW
just answer the question what assets are you on about simples
DEAR OH DEAR WHAT THREAT? ha,ha a Very vERY sensitive little bunny we have.ha,Ha
[quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.[/p][/quote]The assets sold being ?[/p][/quote]Don t you know?[/p][/quote]No I dont so please enlighten me because you must know[/p][/quote]No point in enlightening a wet fire read the comments fans put on here and take it in, better still go on the dingles site and talk to your self[/p][/quote]WAKE UP tickle tan[/p][/quote]So you admit then you just come on here, state assets are being sold, Haven't a clue what assets have been sold, can`t tell me what assets you mean then tell me to wake up because everyone knows what assets have been sold. Just to make it easy for you , a simple question just list what assets have been sold so we all are very clear what you mean[/p][/quote]ONCE again no point enlightening a WET FIRE .time for you to talk to the hand.[/p][/quote]So you cant state which assets have been sold and revert to name calling and threats wow[/p][/quote]Dont be so sensitive, just because i cant be bothered to waist any more time installing reason with you, deary me we are sensitive aren't we.[/p][/quote]not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats, + I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, then you threaten WOW just answer the question what assets are you on about simples[/p][/quote]DEAR OH DEAR WHAT THREAT? ha,ha a Very vERY sensitive little bunny we have.ha,Ha alfa111

2:34pm Fri 15 Jun 12

DaBoss says...

Ignore them fickle fan, facts are much less interesting than random conspiracy theories and buzz words like "asset stripping".

Venky's are incompetent at running a football club and were and still are, badly advised. They aren't asset stripping demons and they HAVE reduced the wage bill and the in turn created a much more sustainable business, but at the cost of relegation and losing experienced players and the fan revolt.

Was it the right decision? It certainly doesn't look like it, especially in light of the extra PL revenues, granted this could not have pre-empted. but the damning evidence of incompetence has been demonstrated more clearly SINCE relegation, with the admittance of the owners that they didn't know you could be relegated and then the "confusion" along with lack of any preparation for the new season and the season ticket debacle.
Ignore them fickle fan, facts are much less interesting than random conspiracy theories and buzz words like "asset stripping". Venky's are incompetent at running a football club and were and still are, badly advised. They aren't asset stripping demons and they HAVE reduced the wage bill and the in turn created a much more sustainable business, but at the cost of relegation and losing experienced players and the fan revolt. Was it the right decision? It certainly doesn't look like it, especially in light of the extra PL revenues, granted this could not have pre-empted. but the damning evidence of incompetence has been demonstrated more clearly SINCE relegation, with the admittance of the owners that they didn't know you could be relegated and then the "confusion" along with lack of any preparation for the new season and the season ticket debacle. DaBoss

2:40pm Fri 15 Jun 12

DaBoss says...

As we have all said repeatedly, we can handle relegation, we have been before, we are a small fish mixing it up in a big pond, punching above our weight and standing tall, its bound to happen.

Its the WAY it happened, the speed it happened and WHY it happened.
As we have all said repeatedly, we can handle relegation, we have been before, we are a small fish mixing it up in a big pond, punching above our weight and standing tall, its bound to happen. Its the WAY it happened, the speed it happened and WHY it happened. DaBoss

2:40pm Fri 15 Jun 12

fickle fan says...

DaBoss wrote:
Ignore them fickle fan, facts are much less interesting than random conspiracy theories and buzz words like "asset stripping".

Venky's are incompetent at running a football club and were and still are, badly advised. They aren't asset stripping demons and they HAVE reduced the wage bill and the in turn created a much more sustainable business, but at the cost of relegation and losing experienced players and the fan revolt.

Was it the right decision? It certainly doesn't look like it, especially in light of the extra PL revenues, granted this could not have pre-empted. but the damning evidence of incompetence has been demonstrated more clearly SINCE relegation, with the admittance of the owners that they didn't know you could be relegated and then the "confusion" along with lack of any preparation for the new season and the season ticket debacle.
Fully agree
[quote][p][bold]DaBoss[/bold] wrote: Ignore them fickle fan, facts are much less interesting than random conspiracy theories and buzz words like "asset stripping". Venky's are incompetent at running a football club and were and still are, badly advised. They aren't asset stripping demons and they HAVE reduced the wage bill and the in turn created a much more sustainable business, but at the cost of relegation and losing experienced players and the fan revolt. Was it the right decision? It certainly doesn't look like it, especially in light of the extra PL revenues, granted this could not have pre-empted. but the damning evidence of incompetence has been demonstrated more clearly SINCE relegation, with the admittance of the owners that they didn't know you could be relegated and then the "confusion" along with lack of any preparation for the new season and the season ticket debacle.[/p][/quote]Fully agree fickle fan

2:42pm Fri 15 Jun 12

benal13 says...

fickle fan wrote:
not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats,
+ I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW
just answer the question what assets are you on about simples
I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP
[quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats, + I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW just answer the question what assets are you on about simples[/p][/quote]I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP benal13

2:46pm Fri 15 Jun 12

bring back the good old days says...

DaBoss wrote:
Ignore them fickle fan, facts are much less interesting than random conspiracy theories and buzz words like "asset stripping".

Venky's are incompetent at running a football club and were and still are, badly advised. They aren't asset stripping demons and they HAVE reduced the wage bill and the in turn created a much more sustainable business, but at the cost of relegation and losing experienced players and the fan revolt.

Was it the right decision? It certainly doesn't look like it, especially in light of the extra PL revenues, granted this could not have pre-empted. but the damning evidence of incompetence has been demonstrated more clearly SINCE relegation, with the admittance of the owners that they didn't know you could be relegated and then the "confusion" along with lack of any preparation for the new season and the season ticket debacle.
incompetents - pure and simple.
[quote][p][bold]DaBoss[/bold] wrote: Ignore them fickle fan, facts are much less interesting than random conspiracy theories and buzz words like "asset stripping". Venky's are incompetent at running a football club and were and still are, badly advised. They aren't asset stripping demons and they HAVE reduced the wage bill and the in turn created a much more sustainable business, but at the cost of relegation and losing experienced players and the fan revolt. Was it the right decision? It certainly doesn't look like it, especially in light of the extra PL revenues, granted this could not have pre-empted. but the damning evidence of incompetence has been demonstrated more clearly SINCE relegation, with the admittance of the owners that they didn't know you could be relegated and then the "confusion" along with lack of any preparation for the new season and the season ticket debacle.[/p][/quote]incompetents - pure and simple. bring back the good old days

2:51pm Fri 15 Jun 12

alfa111 says...

benal13 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats,
+ I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW
just answer the question what assets are you on about simples
I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP
Well i would agree with you?
[quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats, + I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW just answer the question what assets are you on about simples[/p][/quote]I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP[/p][/quote]Well i would agree with you? alfa111

2:56pm Fri 15 Jun 12

bring back the good old days says...

MxMave wrote:
Bet Venkys regret not listening to the fans. If they'd have listened to us a year ago we'd probably still be in the prem.
Not too sure about that as by ousting BFS, Williams and Finn etc. the major damage was done . They could actually claim they were listening to the fans when ditching BFS!
Jones was always moving on. Samba was always looking for a bigger team/salary. Niko had got fed up of being a ball.chasing front man.
To many, me included, it had all the hallmarks of 'our time was up', as with these (by admission) 'rookies' in charge in the big boys league there was really only one way we were going.
[quote][p][bold]MxMave[/bold] wrote: Bet Venkys regret not listening to the fans. If they'd have listened to us a year ago we'd probably still be in the prem.[/p][/quote]Not too sure about that as by ousting BFS, Williams and Finn etc. the major damage was done . They could actually claim they were listening to the fans when ditching BFS! Jones was always moving on. Samba was always looking for a bigger team/salary. Niko had got fed up of being a ball.chasing front man. To many, me included, it had all the hallmarks of 'our time was up', as with these (by admission) 'rookies' in charge in the big boys league there was really only one way we were going. bring back the good old days

2:58pm Fri 15 Jun 12

angryandy says...

Do players count as "assets" in your "petty world"?
Do players count as "assets" in your "petty world"? angryandy

2:58pm Fri 15 Jun 12

A Darener says...

D
D A Darener

2:59pm Fri 15 Jun 12

bring back the good old days says...

bring back the good old days wrote:
MxMave wrote:
Bet Venkys regret not listening to the fans. If they'd have listened to us a year ago we'd probably still be in the prem.
Not too sure about that as by ousting BFS, Williams and Finn etc. the major damage was done . They could actually claim they were listening to the fans when ditching BFS!
Jones was always moving on. Samba was always looking for a bigger team/salary. Niko had got fed up of being a ball.chasing front man.
To many, me included, it had all the hallmarks of 'our time was up', as with these (by admission) 'rookies' in charge in the big boys league there was really only one way we were going.
In addition, not investing in JJ was another very major factor (this demonstrating their penny pinching approach).
[quote][p][bold]bring back the good old days[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MxMave[/bold] wrote: Bet Venkys regret not listening to the fans. If they'd have listened to us a year ago we'd probably still be in the prem.[/p][/quote]Not too sure about that as by ousting BFS, Williams and Finn etc. the major damage was done . They could actually claim they were listening to the fans when ditching BFS! Jones was always moving on. Samba was always looking for a bigger team/salary. Niko had got fed up of being a ball.chasing front man. To many, me included, it had all the hallmarks of 'our time was up', as with these (by admission) 'rookies' in charge in the big boys league there was really only one way we were going.[/p][/quote]In addition, not investing in JJ was another very major factor (this demonstrating their penny pinching approach). bring back the good old days

3:00pm Fri 15 Jun 12

A Darener says...

bring back the good old days wrote:
MxMave wrote:
Bet Venkys regret not listening to the fans. If they'd have listened to us a year ago we'd probably still be in the prem.
Not too sure about that as by ousting BFS, Williams and Finn etc. the major damage was done . They could actually claim they were listening to the fans when ditching BFS!
Jones was always moving on. Samba was always looking for a bigger team/salary. Niko had got fed up of being a ball.chasing front man.
To many, me included, it had all the hallmarks of 'our time was up', as with these (by admission) 'rookies' in charge in the big boys league there was really only one way we were going.
Even before last Christmas if they had got rid of Kean we would have stood a good chance of not being relegated.
[quote][p][bold]bring back the good old days[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MxMave[/bold] wrote: Bet Venkys regret not listening to the fans. If they'd have listened to us a year ago we'd probably still be in the prem.[/p][/quote]Not too sure about that as by ousting BFS, Williams and Finn etc. the major damage was done . They could actually claim they were listening to the fans when ditching BFS! Jones was always moving on. Samba was always looking for a bigger team/salary. Niko had got fed up of being a ball.chasing front man. To many, me included, it had all the hallmarks of 'our time was up', as with these (by admission) 'rookies' in charge in the big boys league there was really only one way we were going.[/p][/quote]Even before last Christmas if they had got rid of Kean we would have stood a good chance of not being relegated. A Darener

3:04pm Fri 15 Jun 12

fickle fan says...

alfa111 wrote:
benal13 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats,
+ I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW
just answer the question what assets are you on about simples
I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP
Well i would agree with you?
Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer.
Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit
[quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats, + I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW just answer the question what assets are you on about simples[/p][/quote]I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP[/p][/quote]Well i would agree with you?[/p][/quote]Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer. Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit fickle fan

3:07pm Fri 15 Jun 12

Harwoodstblue says...

bring back the good old days wrote:
bring back the good old days wrote:
MxMave wrote:
Bet Venkys regret not listening to the fans. If they'd have listened to us a year ago we'd probably still be in the prem.
Not too sure about that as by ousting BFS, Williams and Finn etc. the major damage was done . They could actually claim they were listening to the fans when ditching BFS!
Jones was always moving on. Samba was always looking for a bigger team/salary. Niko had got fed up of being a ball.chasing front man.
To many, me included, it had all the hallmarks of 'our time was up', as with these (by admission) 'rookies' in charge in the big boys league there was really only one way we were going.
In addition, not investing in JJ was another very major factor (this demonstrating their penny pinching approach).
The signs were there very early on. That was just the beginning, unfortunately.
[quote][p][bold]bring back the good old days[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bring back the good old days[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MxMave[/bold] wrote: Bet Venkys regret not listening to the fans. If they'd have listened to us a year ago we'd probably still be in the prem.[/p][/quote]Not too sure about that as by ousting BFS, Williams and Finn etc. the major damage was done . They could actually claim they were listening to the fans when ditching BFS! Jones was always moving on. Samba was always looking for a bigger team/salary. Niko had got fed up of being a ball.chasing front man. To many, me included, it had all the hallmarks of 'our time was up', as with these (by admission) 'rookies' in charge in the big boys league there was really only one way we were going.[/p][/quote]In addition, not investing in JJ was another very major factor (this demonstrating their penny pinching approach).[/p][/quote]The signs were there very early on. That was just the beginning, unfortunately. Harwoodstblue

3:09pm Fri 15 Jun 12

alfa111 says...

fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
benal13 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats,
+ I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW
just answer the question what assets are you on about simples
I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP
Well i would agree with you?
Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer.
Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit
So you do agree with my comments earlier that jones was an asset?see you have answered your own question to me before ,very clever girl.
[quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats, + I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW just answer the question what assets are you on about simples[/p][/quote]I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP[/p][/quote]Well i would agree with you?[/p][/quote]Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer. Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit[/p][/quote]So you do agree with my comments earlier that jones was an asset?see you have answered your own question to me before ,very clever girl. alfa111

3:17pm Fri 15 Jun 12

DaBoss says...

fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
benal13 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats,
+ I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW
just answer the question what assets are you on about simples
I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP
Well i would agree with you?
Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer.
Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit
quite right.

Asset stripping would be selling the players with the motive of financial benefit, which clearly with the reduction of the wage bill, clearing of debts and funding of new players does not allude to.

Was it the case? Only they know. to believe that is as fact is choice, to state it as fact and ridicule others for not believing it is being 'fallacious' to say the least.

(Toilet paper word of the day - woohoo used in a sentence!)

:)
[quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats, + I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW just answer the question what assets are you on about simples[/p][/quote]I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP[/p][/quote]Well i would agree with you?[/p][/quote]Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer. Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit[/p][/quote]quite right. Asset stripping would be selling the players with the motive of financial benefit, which clearly with the reduction of the wage bill, clearing of debts and funding of new players does not allude to. Was it the case? Only they know. to believe that is as fact is choice, to state it as fact and ridicule others for not believing it is being 'fallacious' to say the least. (Toilet paper word of the day - woohoo used in a sentence!) :) DaBoss

3:20pm Fri 15 Jun 12

DaBoss says...

alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
benal13 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats,
+ I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW
just answer the question what assets are you on about simples
I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP
Well i would agree with you?
Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer.
Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit
So you do agree with my comments earlier that jones was an asset?see you have answered your own question to me before ,very clever girl.
see comment above.
[quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats, + I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW just answer the question what assets are you on about simples[/p][/quote]I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP[/p][/quote]Well i would agree with you?[/p][/quote]Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer. Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit[/p][/quote]So you do agree with my comments earlier that jones was an asset?see you have answered your own question to me before ,very clever girl.[/p][/quote]see comment above. DaBoss

3:22pm Fri 15 Jun 12

fickle fan says...

alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
benal13 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats,
+ I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW
just answer the question what assets are you on about simples
I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP
Well i would agree with you?
Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer.
Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit
So you do agree with my comments earlier that jones was an asset?see you have answered your own question to me before ,very clever girl.
No you didn`t say jones was an asset someone else did. If you look back to the question I asked it was "what assets !" this was a question that you couldn`t answer if you did we could have had a conversation about why some players had been sold. You just resorted to name calling and childish threats and are still doing so rather than calling me a little girl you should ask a grown up about your replys
[quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats, + I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW just answer the question what assets are you on about simples[/p][/quote]I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP[/p][/quote]Well i would agree with you?[/p][/quote]Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer. Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit[/p][/quote]So you do agree with my comments earlier that jones was an asset?see you have answered your own question to me before ,very clever girl.[/p][/quote]No you didn`t say jones was an asset someone else did. If you look back to the question I asked it was "what assets !" this was a question that you couldn`t answer if you did we could have had a conversation about why some players had been sold. You just resorted to name calling and childish threats and are still doing so rather than calling me a little girl you should ask a grown up about your replys fickle fan

3:24pm Fri 15 Jun 12

alfa111 says...

angryandy wrote:
Do players count as "assets" in your "petty world"?
ASSETS=valubale usefull person or persons UMMM YES players directors CEO, any one worth their gold,also property that a person can sell to pay off their debts, in the real world yes and this comes from the collins Dictionary,are you reading this to fickle DAN
[quote][p][bold]angryandy[/bold] wrote: Do players count as "assets" in your "petty world"?[/p][/quote]ASSETS=valubale usefull person or persons UMMM YES players directors CEO, any one worth their gold,also property that a person can sell to pay off their debts, in the real world yes and this comes from the collins Dictionary,are you reading this to fickle DAN alfa111

3:30pm Fri 15 Jun 12

alfa111 says...

fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
benal13 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats,
+ I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW
just answer the question what assets are you on about simples
I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP
Well i would agree with you?
Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer.
Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit
So you do agree with my comments earlier that jones was an asset?see you have answered your own question to me before ,very clever girl.
No you didn`t say jones was an asset someone else did. If you look back to the question I asked it was "what assets !" this was a question that you couldn`t answer if you did we could have had a conversation about why some players had been sold. You just resorted to name calling and childish threats and are still doing so rather than calling me a little girl you should ask a grown up about your replys
ONCE again read my comments carfully PLAYERS,YES JONES ,SAMBA see know you must read things more carful manner instead of going off in a tantrum just because it isn't exactly the way you would put it.
[quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats, + I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW just answer the question what assets are you on about simples[/p][/quote]I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP[/p][/quote]Well i would agree with you?[/p][/quote]Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer. Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit[/p][/quote]So you do agree with my comments earlier that jones was an asset?see you have answered your own question to me before ,very clever girl.[/p][/quote]No you didn`t say jones was an asset someone else did. If you look back to the question I asked it was "what assets !" this was a question that you couldn`t answer if you did we could have had a conversation about why some players had been sold. You just resorted to name calling and childish threats and are still doing so rather than calling me a little girl you should ask a grown up about your replys[/p][/quote]ONCE again read my comments carfully PLAYERS,YES JONES ,SAMBA see know you must read things more carful manner instead of going off in a tantrum just because it isn't exactly the way you would put it. alfa111

3:30pm Fri 15 Jun 12

French Rover says...

Sam-the-Man wrote:
A Darener wrote:
Fixtures out Monday. Let's hope the first game is at home, then we will be able to see just how affective the call for an attendance boycott has been.
We must hope that the majority of fans despite their obvious disappointment at missing an opening fixture, some for the first time in decades keep to their promise of not attending matches whilst SK's still in charge.
That will show the owners that we are serious in our intention of not put a penny more into their coffers.
I havent been and have no intention of going to Ewood while the chickens farmers are in control and Gollum is the manager but... What if the first home game of the season is against Bunleh? That would really test all our resolves.

DKO
that would be a full house for sure....the SAB (stay away ban) could be relaxed for such a game! Are we not entitled to just one day of fun at Ewood next season and with the bonus of 3 guaranteed points...
[quote][p][bold]Sam-the-Man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Fixtures out Monday. Let's hope the first game is at home, then we will be able to see just how affective the call for an attendance boycott has been. We must hope that the majority of fans despite their obvious disappointment at missing an opening fixture, some for the first time in decades keep to their promise of not attending matches whilst SK's still in charge. That will show the owners that we are serious in our intention of not put a penny more into their coffers.[/p][/quote]I havent been and have no intention of going to Ewood while the chickens farmers are in control and Gollum is the manager but... What if the first home game of the season is against Bunleh? That would really test all our resolves. DKO[/p][/quote]that would be a full house for sure....the SAB (stay away ban) could be relaxed for such a game! Are we not entitled to just one day of fun at Ewood next season and with the bonus of 3 guaranteed points... French Rover

3:33pm Fri 15 Jun 12

alfa111 says...

fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
benal13 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats,
+ I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW
just answer the question what assets are you on about simples
I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP
Well i would agree with you?
Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer.
Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit
So you do agree with my comments earlier that jones was an asset?see you have answered your own question to me before ,very clever girl.
No you didn`t say jones was an asset someone else did. If you look back to the question I asked it was "what assets !" this was a question that you couldn`t answer if you did we could have had a conversation about why some players had been sold. You just resorted to name calling and childish threats and are still doing so rather than calling me a little girl you should ask a grown up about your replys
See your getting all flustered again, i did not call you a little girl ,i said young lady and once again i have not made any threat to you READ MY COMMENTS AGAIN YOUNG LADY.
[quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats, + I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW just answer the question what assets are you on about simples[/p][/quote]I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP[/p][/quote]Well i would agree with you?[/p][/quote]Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer. Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit[/p][/quote]So you do agree with my comments earlier that jones was an asset?see you have answered your own question to me before ,very clever girl.[/p][/quote]No you didn`t say jones was an asset someone else did. If you look back to the question I asked it was "what assets !" this was a question that you couldn`t answer if you did we could have had a conversation about why some players had been sold. You just resorted to name calling and childish threats and are still doing so rather than calling me a little girl you should ask a grown up about your replys[/p][/quote]See your getting all flustered again, i did not call you a little girl ,i said young lady and once again i have not made any threat to you READ MY COMMENTS AGAIN YOUNG LADY. alfa111

3:36pm Fri 15 Jun 12

fickle fan says...

alfa111 wrote:
angryandy wrote:
Do players count as "assets" in your "petty world"?
ASSETS=valubale usefull person or persons UMMM YES players directors CEO, any one worth their gold,also property that a person can sell to pay off their debts, in the real world yes and this comes from the collins Dictionary,are you reading this to fickle DAN
Look back at the question i asked

Quote "The assets sold being ?"

the forum doesn't lie
your answers don't relate to the question I raised so this makes having a conversation very difficult.
Whilst it is very true that you can sell off an asset to pay off a debt it would also be true that you can sell an asset and replace it with another asset
[quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angryandy[/bold] wrote: Do players count as "assets" in your "petty world"?[/p][/quote]ASSETS=valubale usefull person or persons UMMM YES players directors CEO, any one worth their gold,also property that a person can sell to pay off their debts, in the real world yes and this comes from the collins Dictionary,are you reading this to fickle DAN[/p][/quote]Look back at the question i asked Quote "The assets sold being ?" the forum doesn't lie your answers don't relate to the question I raised so this makes having a conversation very difficult. Whilst it is very true that you can sell off an asset to pay off a debt it would also be true that you can sell an asset and replace it with another asset fickle fan

3:39pm Fri 15 Jun 12

DaBoss says...

alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
benal13 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats,
+ I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW
just answer the question what assets are you on about simples
I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP
Well i would agree with you?
Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer.
Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit
So you do agree with my comments earlier that jones was an asset?see you have answered your own question to me before ,very clever girl.
No you didn`t say jones was an asset someone else did. If you look back to the question I asked it was "what assets !" this was a question that you couldn`t answer if you did we could have had a conversation about why some players had been sold. You just resorted to name calling and childish threats and are still doing so rather than calling me a little girl you should ask a grown up about your replys
See your getting all flustered again, i did not call you a little girl ,i said young lady and once again i have not made any threat to you READ MY COMMENTS AGAIN YOUNG LADY.
oh ffs.. give it up children.. schools out.

Its FFFFrrrridddaaaayyyy
!
[quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats, + I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW just answer the question what assets are you on about simples[/p][/quote]I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP[/p][/quote]Well i would agree with you?[/p][/quote]Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer. Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit[/p][/quote]So you do agree with my comments earlier that jones was an asset?see you have answered your own question to me before ,very clever girl.[/p][/quote]No you didn`t say jones was an asset someone else did. If you look back to the question I asked it was "what assets !" this was a question that you couldn`t answer if you did we could have had a conversation about why some players had been sold. You just resorted to name calling and childish threats and are still doing so rather than calling me a little girl you should ask a grown up about your replys[/p][/quote]See your getting all flustered again, i did not call you a little girl ,i said young lady and once again i have not made any threat to you READ MY COMMENTS AGAIN YOUNG LADY.[/p][/quote]oh ffs.. give it up children.. schools out. Its FFFFrrrridddaaaayyyy ! DaBoss

3:44pm Fri 15 Jun 12

fickle fan says...

DaBoss wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
benal13 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats,
+ I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW
just answer the question what assets are you on about simples
I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP
Well i would agree with you?
Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer.
Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit
So you do agree with my comments earlier that jones was an asset?see you have answered your own question to me before ,very clever girl.
No you didn`t say jones was an asset someone else did. If you look back to the question I asked it was "what assets !" this was a question that you couldn`t answer if you did we could have had a conversation about why some players had been sold. You just resorted to name calling and childish threats and are still doing so rather than calling me a little girl you should ask a grown up about your replys
See your getting all flustered again, i did not call you a little girl ,i said young lady and once again i have not made any threat to you READ MY COMMENTS AGAIN YOUNG LADY.
oh ffs.. give it up children.. schools out.

Its FFFFrrrridddaaaayyyy

!
Read what you said it says girl, and it would appear that when you can,t answer a question you get personal I take speaking to your hand as a threat
[quote][p][bold]DaBoss[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats, + I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW just answer the question what assets are you on about simples[/p][/quote]I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP[/p][/quote]Well i would agree with you?[/p][/quote]Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer. Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit[/p][/quote]So you do agree with my comments earlier that jones was an asset?see you have answered your own question to me before ,very clever girl.[/p][/quote]No you didn`t say jones was an asset someone else did. If you look back to the question I asked it was "what assets !" this was a question that you couldn`t answer if you did we could have had a conversation about why some players had been sold. You just resorted to name calling and childish threats and are still doing so rather than calling me a little girl you should ask a grown up about your replys[/p][/quote]See your getting all flustered again, i did not call you a little girl ,i said young lady and once again i have not made any threat to you READ MY COMMENTS AGAIN YOUNG LADY.[/p][/quote]oh ffs.. give it up children.. schools out. Its FFFFrrrridddaaaayyyy ![/p][/quote]Read what you said it says girl, and it would appear that when you can,t answer a question you get personal I take speaking to your hand as a threat fickle fan

3:47pm Fri 15 Jun 12

benal13 says...

angryandy wrote:
Do players count as "assets" in your "petty world"?
W H A T ?
[quote][p][bold]angryandy[/bold] wrote: Do players count as "assets" in your "petty world"?[/p][/quote]W H A T ? benal13

3:52pm Fri 15 Jun 12

alfa111 says...

fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
angryandy wrote:
Do players count as "assets" in your "petty world"?
ASSETS=valubale usefull person or persons UMMM YES players directors CEO, any one worth their gold,also property that a person can sell to pay off their debts, in the real world yes and this comes from the collins Dictionary,are you reading this to fickle DAN
Look back at the question i asked

Quote "The assets sold being ?"

the forum doesn't lie
your answers don't relate to the question I raised so this makes having a conversation very difficult.
Whilst it is very true that you can sell off an asset to pay off a debt it would also be true that you can sell an asset and replace it with another asset
Sorry fickle tan but you just don't listen and you certainly have not been reading my comments correctly. you are becoming irrational now, as i have said before read my comments and try not to look to trip up peoples opinions,we may not all say things in the same manner or way as you personally ,learn to read others opinions with a bit of decorum.
[quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angryandy[/bold] wrote: Do players count as "assets" in your "petty world"?[/p][/quote]ASSETS=valubale usefull person or persons UMMM YES players directors CEO, any one worth their gold,also property that a person can sell to pay off their debts, in the real world yes and this comes from the collins Dictionary,are you reading this to fickle DAN[/p][/quote]Look back at the question i asked Quote "The assets sold being ?" the forum doesn't lie your answers don't relate to the question I raised so this makes having a conversation very difficult. Whilst it is very true that you can sell off an asset to pay off a debt it would also be true that you can sell an asset and replace it with another asset[/p][/quote]Sorry fickle tan but you just don't listen and you certainly have not been reading my comments correctly. you are becoming irrational now, as i have said before read my comments and try not to look to trip up peoples opinions,we may not all say things in the same manner or way as you personally ,learn to read others opinions with a bit of decorum. alfa111

3:57pm Fri 15 Jun 12

bring back the good old days says...

A Darener wrote:
bring back the good old days wrote:
MxMave wrote:
Bet Venkys regret not listening to the fans. If they'd have listened to us a year ago we'd probably still be in the prem.
Not too sure about that as by ousting BFS, Williams and Finn etc. the major damage was done . They could actually claim they were listening to the fans when ditching BFS!
Jones was always moving on. Samba was always looking for a bigger team/salary. Niko had got fed up of being a ball.chasing front man.
To many, me included, it had all the hallmarks of 'our time was up', as with these (by admission) 'rookies' in charge in the big boys league there was really only one way we were going.
Even before last Christmas if they had got rid of Kean we would have stood a good chance of not being relegated.
Again not too sure about that as with their 'methods' within the transfer market, who worth their salt would come in and work for them. This for what would be a relatively paltry (by Prem stds) salary.
I agree there were five poor teams in the mix, but not totally convnced we could have ended up fourth/fifth worst.
The whole 'set up' by Venkys at Ewood is wrong.
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bring back the good old days[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MxMave[/bold] wrote: Bet Venkys regret not listening to the fans. If they'd have listened to us a year ago we'd probably still be in the prem.[/p][/quote]Not too sure about that as by ousting BFS, Williams and Finn etc. the major damage was done . They could actually claim they were listening to the fans when ditching BFS! Jones was always moving on. Samba was always looking for a bigger team/salary. Niko had got fed up of being a ball.chasing front man. To many, me included, it had all the hallmarks of 'our time was up', as with these (by admission) 'rookies' in charge in the big boys league there was really only one way we were going.[/p][/quote]Even before last Christmas if they had got rid of Kean we would have stood a good chance of not being relegated.[/p][/quote]Again not too sure about that as with their 'methods' within the transfer market, who worth their salt would come in and work for them. This for what would be a relatively paltry (by Prem stds) salary. I agree there were five poor teams in the mix, but not totally convnced we could have ended up fourth/fifth worst. The whole 'set up' by Venkys at Ewood is wrong. bring back the good old days

3:57pm Fri 15 Jun 12

alfa111 says...

DaBoss wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
benal13 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats,
+ I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW
just answer the question what assets are you on about simples
I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP
Well i would agree with you?
Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer.
Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit
So you do agree with my comments earlier that jones was an asset?see you have answered your own question to me before ,very clever girl.
No you didn`t say jones was an asset someone else did. If you look back to the question I asked it was "what assets !" this was a question that you couldn`t answer if you did we could have had a conversation about why some players had been sold. You just resorted to name calling and childish threats and are still doing so rather than calling me a little girl you should ask a grown up about your replys
See your getting all flustered again, i did not call you a little girl ,i said young lady and once again i have not made any threat to you READ MY COMMENTS AGAIN YOUNG LADY.
oh ffs.. give it up children.. schools out.

Its FFFFrrrridddaaaayyyy

!
Ha,Ha,Ha,like it.
[quote][p][bold]DaBoss[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats, + I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW just answer the question what assets are you on about simples[/p][/quote]I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP[/p][/quote]Well i would agree with you?[/p][/quote]Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer. Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit[/p][/quote]So you do agree with my comments earlier that jones was an asset?see you have answered your own question to me before ,very clever girl.[/p][/quote]No you didn`t say jones was an asset someone else did. If you look back to the question I asked it was "what assets !" this was a question that you couldn`t answer if you did we could have had a conversation about why some players had been sold. You just resorted to name calling and childish threats and are still doing so rather than calling me a little girl you should ask a grown up about your replys[/p][/quote]See your getting all flustered again, i did not call you a little girl ,i said young lady and once again i have not made any threat to you READ MY COMMENTS AGAIN YOUNG LADY.[/p][/quote]oh ffs.. give it up children.. schools out. Its FFFFrrrridddaaaayyyy ![/p][/quote]Ha,Ha,Ha,like it. alfa111

4:00pm Fri 15 Jun 12

Hippocroccapig says...

fickle fan wrote:
DaBoss wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
benal13 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats,
+ I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW
just answer the question what assets are you on about simples
I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP
Well i would agree with you?
Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer.
Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit
So you do agree with my comments earlier that jones was an asset?see you have answered your own question to me before ,very clever girl.
No you didn`t say jones was an asset someone else did. If you look back to the question I asked it was "what assets !" this was a question that you couldn`t answer if you did we could have had a conversation about why some players had been sold. You just resorted to name calling and childish threats and are still doing so rather than calling me a little girl you should ask a grown up about your replys
See your getting all flustered again, i did not call you a little girl ,i said young lady and once again i have not made any threat to you READ MY COMMENTS AGAIN YOUNG LADY.
oh ffs.. give it up children.. schools out.

Its FFFFrrrridddaaaayyyy


!
Read what you said it says girl, and it would appear that when you can,t answer a question you get personal I take speaking to your hand as a threat
Talk to the hand is a threat?

Ha ha ha - get a grip
[quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DaBoss[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats, + I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW just answer the question what assets are you on about simples[/p][/quote]I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP[/p][/quote]Well i would agree with you?[/p][/quote]Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer. Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit[/p][/quote]So you do agree with my comments earlier that jones was an asset?see you have answered your own question to me before ,very clever girl.[/p][/quote]No you didn`t say jones was an asset someone else did. If you look back to the question I asked it was "what assets !" this was a question that you couldn`t answer if you did we could have had a conversation about why some players had been sold. You just resorted to name calling and childish threats and are still doing so rather than calling me a little girl you should ask a grown up about your replys[/p][/quote]See your getting all flustered again, i did not call you a little girl ,i said young lady and once again i have not made any threat to you READ MY COMMENTS AGAIN YOUNG LADY.[/p][/quote]oh ffs.. give it up children.. schools out. Its FFFFrrrridddaaaayyyy ![/p][/quote]Read what you said it says girl, and it would appear that when you can,t answer a question you get personal I take speaking to your hand as a threat[/p][/quote]Talk to the hand is a threat? Ha ha ha - get a grip Hippocroccapig

4:00pm Fri 15 Jun 12

Cha'mone MF says...

givet82 wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
Brilliant, just when you thought it couldn't get any better, Dumpburn have this dropped on them. Been eating fillet steak for years and now you're gonna have to chow down on corned beef.
.....welcome to the table chumps.
At least we've been eating fillet steak for 34 yrs. You haven't.
And now you're choking on it ! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Brilliant, what a great start to the weekend!
If by some miracle Dingles manage to beat us next season, you'll still have 33 yrs to even catch up. That's some playing catch up.
.
Keep eating the corned beef.
You just keep living in the past my fatherless meths swigging friend, this is the Dawn of a new age and you know it. You are already playing out the scenario of receiving a claret spanking in your tiny mind that's emptier than a hermits address book, and the realisation that you have missed out on millions upon millions of TV revenue just compounds your woe.

And to top it all off after the laboured performance Martin Olsson is going to put in against England tonight the best offer you'll get for him will be a jar of pickled eggs and a book of green shield stamps.
really chamone, i recall our last meeting at turd were he embarassed your defence and hit the bar about 50 times
Was that before or after Mr Blackburn "Tom Daley" Dunn went down in the penalty area because of the force of the down draft of that passing moth?
[quote][p][bold]givet82[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cha'mone MF[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cha'mone MF[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cha'mone MF[/bold] wrote: Brilliant, just when you thought it couldn't get any better, Dumpburn have this dropped on them. Been eating fillet steak for years and now you're gonna have to chow down on corned beef. .....welcome to the table chumps.[/p][/quote]At least we've been eating fillet steak for 34 yrs. You haven't.[/p][/quote]And now you're choking on it ! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Brilliant, what a great start to the weekend![/p][/quote]If by some miracle Dingles manage to beat us next season, you'll still have 33 yrs to even catch up. That's some playing catch up. . Keep eating the corned beef.[/p][/quote]You just keep living in the past my fatherless meths swigging friend, this is the Dawn of a new age and you know it. You are already playing out the scenario of receiving a claret spanking in your tiny mind that's emptier than a hermits address book, and the realisation that you have missed out on millions upon millions of TV revenue just compounds your woe. And to top it all off after the laboured performance Martin Olsson is going to put in against England tonight the best offer you'll get for him will be a jar of pickled eggs and a book of green shield stamps.[/p][/quote]really chamone, i recall our last meeting at turd were he embarassed your defence and hit the bar about 50 times[/p][/quote]Was that before or after Mr Blackburn "Tom Daley" Dunn went down in the penalty area because of the force of the down draft of that passing moth? Cha'mone MF

4:08pm Fri 15 Jun 12

alfa111 says...

Hippocroccapig wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
DaBoss wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
benal13 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats,
+ I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW
just answer the question what assets are you on about simples
I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP
Well i would agree with you?
Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer.
Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit
So you do agree with my comments earlier that jones was an asset?see you have answered your own question to me before ,very clever girl.
No you didn`t say jones was an asset someone else did. If you look back to the question I asked it was "what assets !" this was a question that you couldn`t answer if you did we could have had a conversation about why some players had been sold. You just resorted to name calling and childish threats and are still doing so rather than calling me a little girl you should ask a grown up about your replys
See your getting all flustered again, i did not call you a little girl ,i said young lady and once again i have not made any threat to you READ MY COMMENTS AGAIN YOUNG LADY.
oh ffs.. give it up children.. schools out.

Its FFFFrrrridddaaaayyyy



!
Read what you said it says girl, and it would appear that when you can,t answer a question you get personal I take speaking to your hand as a threat
Talk to the hand is a threat?

Ha ha ha - get a grip
Yep very irrational thinking
[quote][p][bold]Hippocroccapig[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DaBoss[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats, + I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW just answer the question what assets are you on about simples[/p][/quote]I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP[/p][/quote]Well i would agree with you?[/p][/quote]Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer. Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit[/p][/quote]So you do agree with my comments earlier that jones was an asset?see you have answered your own question to me before ,very clever girl.[/p][/quote]No you didn`t say jones was an asset someone else did. If you look back to the question I asked it was "what assets !" this was a question that you couldn`t answer if you did we could have had a conversation about why some players had been sold. You just resorted to name calling and childish threats and are still doing so rather than calling me a little girl you should ask a grown up about your replys[/p][/quote]See your getting all flustered again, i did not call you a little girl ,i said young lady and once again i have not made any threat to you READ MY COMMENTS AGAIN YOUNG LADY.[/p][/quote]oh ffs.. give it up children.. schools out. Its FFFFrrrridddaaaayyyy ![/p][/quote]Read what you said it says girl, and it would appear that when you can,t answer a question you get personal I take speaking to your hand as a threat[/p][/quote]Talk to the hand is a threat? Ha ha ha - get a grip[/p][/quote]Yep very irrational thinking alfa111

4:09pm Fri 15 Jun 12

fickle fan says...

Hippocroccapig wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
DaBoss wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
benal13 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats,
+ I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW
just answer the question what assets are you on about simples
I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP
Well i would agree with you?
Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer.
Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit
So you do agree with my comments earlier that jones was an asset?see you have answered your own question to me before ,very clever girl.
No you didn`t say jones was an asset someone else did. If you look back to the question I asked it was "what assets !" this was a question that you couldn`t answer if you did we could have had a conversation about why some players had been sold. You just resorted to name calling and childish threats and are still doing so rather than calling me a little girl you should ask a grown up about your replys
See your getting all flustered again, i did not call you a little girl ,i said young lady and once again i have not made any threat to you READ MY COMMENTS AGAIN YOUNG LADY.
oh ffs.. give it up children.. schools out.

Its FFFFrrrridddaaaayyyy



!
Read what you said it says girl, and it would appear that when you can,t answer a question you get personal I take speaking to your hand as a threat
Talk to the hand is a threat?

Ha ha ha - get a grip
No not get a grip stop changing the subject and answer the 1st point I raised
[quote][p][bold]Hippocroccapig[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DaBoss[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats, + I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW just answer the question what assets are you on about simples[/p][/quote]I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP[/p][/quote]Well i would agree with you?[/p][/quote]Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer. Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit[/p][/quote]So you do agree with my comments earlier that jones was an asset?see you have answered your own question to me before ,very clever girl.[/p][/quote]No you didn`t say jones was an asset someone else did. If you look back to the question I asked it was "what assets !" this was a question that you couldn`t answer if you did we could have had a conversation about why some players had been sold. You just resorted to name calling and childish threats and are still doing so rather than calling me a little girl you should ask a grown up about your replys[/p][/quote]See your getting all flustered again, i did not call you a little girl ,i said young lady and once again i have not made any threat to you READ MY COMMENTS AGAIN YOUNG LADY.[/p][/quote]oh ffs.. give it up children.. schools out. Its FFFFrrrridddaaaayyyy ![/p][/quote]Read what you said it says girl, and it would appear that when you can,t answer a question you get personal I take speaking to your hand as a threat[/p][/quote]Talk to the hand is a threat? Ha ha ha - get a grip[/p][/quote]No not get a grip stop changing the subject and answer the 1st point I raised fickle fan

4:09pm Fri 15 Jun 12

Road Runner Road Runner says...

DaBoss wrote:
Ignore them fickle fan, facts are much less interesting than random conspiracy theories and buzz words like "asset stripping".

Venky's are incompetent at running a football club and were and still are, badly advised. They aren't asset stripping demons and they HAVE reduced the wage bill and the in turn created a much more sustainable business, but at the cost of relegation and losing experienced players and the fan revolt.

Was it the right decision? It certainly doesn't look like it, especially in light of the extra PL revenues, granted this could not have pre-empted. but the damning evidence of incompetence has been demonstrated more clearly SINCE relegation, with the admittance of the owners that they didn't know you could be relegated and then the "confusion" along with lack of any preparation for the new season and the season ticket debacle.
Being 'TAKEN DOWN' DaBoss is the only scenario I see down at Ewood.

The attempt at trimming the business whilst hoping to retain Premier status as failed miserably.

Added to matters is that lessons have not been adhered to and, still, as we all know, see's Kean still haunting the corridors of Ewood with a record that any other person of repute would have quit.

Asset stripping ? My view, the club is a skeleton !

In a perverse sort of way I hold out a hope that Venky will now begin the process of putting Humpty back together again but, as I say, that is kind of perverse !

Venky did state that BRFC was it's 'baby' and, looking at the affairs down at EWOOD it most certainly stacks up.

If you attempt to speak with it it then wails or picking it up results in it pooping all over you The brat is a constant nightmare !

I truly fear for the future of BRFC.

Here is hoping ?

Arte et labore
[quote][p][bold]DaBoss[/bold] wrote: Ignore them fickle fan, facts are much less interesting than random conspiracy theories and buzz words like "asset stripping". Venky's are incompetent at running a football club and were and still are, badly advised. They aren't asset stripping demons and they HAVE reduced the wage bill and the in turn created a much more sustainable business, but at the cost of relegation and losing experienced players and the fan revolt. Was it the right decision? It certainly doesn't look like it, especially in light of the extra PL revenues, granted this could not have pre-empted. but the damning evidence of incompetence has been demonstrated more clearly SINCE relegation, with the admittance of the owners that they didn't know you could be relegated and then the "confusion" along with lack of any preparation for the new season and the season ticket debacle.[/p][/quote]Being 'TAKEN DOWN' DaBoss is the only scenario I see down at Ewood. The attempt at trimming the business whilst hoping to retain Premier status as failed miserably. Added to matters is that lessons have not been adhered to and, still, as we all know, see's Kean still haunting the corridors of Ewood with a record that any other person of repute would have quit. Asset stripping ? My view, the club is a skeleton ! In a perverse sort of way I hold out a hope that Venky will now begin the process of putting Humpty back together again but, as I say, that is kind of perverse ! Venky did state that BRFC was it's 'baby' and, looking at the affairs down at EWOOD it most certainly stacks up. If you attempt to speak with it it then wails or picking it up results in it pooping all over you The brat is a constant nightmare ! I truly fear for the future of BRFC. Here is hoping ? Arte et labore Road Runner Road Runner

4:11pm Fri 15 Jun 12

roverfor60years says...

If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits. The next step will be insolvency, unpaid bills – and not just administration but liquidation.
We have fallen off the cliff. I fear the damage Venky’s have wreaked on us, both on and off the field, is irreparable and they show no signs of making any effort to get the club back on track.
Five critical weeks of virtual silence and inactivity, with pre-season preparation now virtually upon us. Four abysmal decisions so far – the elevation of the press officer, the imminent arrival of Shebby the TV pundit, the removal of John Newsome and the apparent retention of Steve Kean – which are just as misguided as all the preceding ones and which give no cause for optimism.
Desai once said her father told her when she took over from him that she had to get seven out of ten decisions correct. So far she has not got one right here.
I think Mick Rathbone is right. There is going to be an even bigger scramble by clubs to get into the Premier League now and the successful ones will have to invest more heavily than ever before to do it. In that scenario we are going to be left among the stragglers, sinking deeper and deeper into obscurity – unless there is some unexpected salvation.
If Venky’s have an ounce of business acumen, they will sell the club without delay for whatever they can get and bank their profits, because soon it will be weighed down in debt, not worth a bean and they will be forced to walk away in disgrace.
On a wider scale, the TV deal just announced is plain crazy. Greedy players will be even greedier, squeezing clubs even harder, and the game in this country is now ripe for plucking (no pun intended).
Crooks already have their fingers in the pie and if the Mafia aren’t already here they soon will be.
The football authorities need to open their eyes to the dangers. Italy has already sounded the alarm bells and they will ignore the looming catastrophe at their peril.
If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits. The next step will be insolvency, unpaid bills – and not just administration but liquidation. We have fallen off the cliff. I fear the damage Venky’s have wreaked on us, both on and off the field, is irreparable and they show no signs of making any effort to get the club back on track. Five critical weeks of virtual silence and inactivity, with pre-season preparation now virtually upon us. Four abysmal decisions so far – the elevation of the press officer, the imminent arrival of Shebby the TV pundit, the removal of John Newsome and the apparent retention of Steve Kean – which are just as misguided as all the preceding ones and which give no cause for optimism. Desai once said her father told her when she took over from him that she had to get seven out of ten decisions correct. So far she has not got one right here. I think Mick Rathbone is right. There is going to be an even bigger scramble by clubs to get into the Premier League now and the successful ones will have to invest more heavily than ever before to do it. In that scenario we are going to be left among the stragglers, sinking deeper and deeper into obscurity – unless there is some unexpected salvation. If Venky’s have an ounce of business acumen, they will sell the club without delay for whatever they can get and bank their profits, because soon it will be weighed down in debt, not worth a bean and they will be forced to walk away in disgrace. On a wider scale, the TV deal just announced is plain crazy. Greedy players will be even greedier, squeezing clubs even harder, and the game in this country is now ripe for plucking (no pun intended). Crooks already have their fingers in the pie and if the Mafia aren’t already here they soon will be. The football authorities need to open their eyes to the dangers. Italy has already sounded the alarm bells and they will ignore the looming catastrophe at their peril. roverfor60years

4:15pm Fri 15 Jun 12

Road Runner Road Runner says...

roverfor60years wrote:
If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits. The next step will be insolvency, unpaid bills – and not just administration but liquidation.
We have fallen off the cliff. I fear the damage Venky’s have wreaked on us, both on and off the field, is irreparable and they show no signs of making any effort to get the club back on track.
Five critical weeks of virtual silence and inactivity, with pre-season preparation now virtually upon us. Four abysmal decisions so far – the elevation of the press officer, the imminent arrival of Shebby the TV pundit, the removal of John Newsome and the apparent retention of Steve Kean – which are just as misguided as all the preceding ones and which give no cause for optimism.
Desai once said her father told her when she took over from him that she had to get seven out of ten decisions correct. So far she has not got one right here.
I think Mick Rathbone is right. There is going to be an even bigger scramble by clubs to get into the Premier League now and the successful ones will have to invest more heavily than ever before to do it. In that scenario we are going to be left among the stragglers, sinking deeper and deeper into obscurity – unless there is some unexpected salvation.
If Venky’s have an ounce of business acumen, they will sell the club without delay for whatever they can get and bank their profits, because soon it will be weighed down in debt, not worth a bean and they will be forced to walk away in disgrace.
On a wider scale, the TV deal just announced is plain crazy. Greedy players will be even greedier, squeezing clubs even harder, and the game in this country is now ripe for plucking (no pun intended).
Crooks already have their fingers in the pie and if the Mafia aren’t already here they soon will be.
The football authorities need to open their eyes to the dangers. Italy has already sounded the alarm bells and they will ignore the looming catastrophe at their peril.
Wise words, indeed Rover60years.

Arte et labore
[quote][p][bold]roverfor60years[/bold] wrote: If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits. The next step will be insolvency, unpaid bills – and not just administration but liquidation. We have fallen off the cliff. I fear the damage Venky’s have wreaked on us, both on and off the field, is irreparable and they show no signs of making any effort to get the club back on track. Five critical weeks of virtual silence and inactivity, with pre-season preparation now virtually upon us. Four abysmal decisions so far – the elevation of the press officer, the imminent arrival of Shebby the TV pundit, the removal of John Newsome and the apparent retention of Steve Kean – which are just as misguided as all the preceding ones and which give no cause for optimism. Desai once said her father told her when she took over from him that she had to get seven out of ten decisions correct. So far she has not got one right here. I think Mick Rathbone is right. There is going to be an even bigger scramble by clubs to get into the Premier League now and the successful ones will have to invest more heavily than ever before to do it. In that scenario we are going to be left among the stragglers, sinking deeper and deeper into obscurity – unless there is some unexpected salvation. If Venky’s have an ounce of business acumen, they will sell the club without delay for whatever they can get and bank their profits, because soon it will be weighed down in debt, not worth a bean and they will be forced to walk away in disgrace. On a wider scale, the TV deal just announced is plain crazy. Greedy players will be even greedier, squeezing clubs even harder, and the game in this country is now ripe for plucking (no pun intended). Crooks already have their fingers in the pie and if the Mafia aren’t already here they soon will be. The football authorities need to open their eyes to the dangers. Italy has already sounded the alarm bells and they will ignore the looming catastrophe at their peril.[/p][/quote]Wise words, indeed Rover60years. Arte et labore Road Runner Road Runner

4:19pm Fri 15 Jun 12

Cha'mone MF says...

alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.
The assets sold being ?
Don t you know?
No I dont so please enlighten me because you must know
No point in enlightening a wet fire read the comments fans put on here and take it in, better still go on the dingles site and talk to your self
WAKE UP tickle tan
So you admit then you just come on here, state assets are being sold, Haven't a clue what assets have been sold, can`t tell me what assets you mean then tell me to wake up because everyone knows what assets have been sold.
Just to make it easy for you , a simple question just list what assets have been sold so we all are very clear what you mean
ONCE again no point enlightening a WET FIRE .time for you to talk to the hand.
So you cant state which assets have been sold and revert to name calling and threats wow
Dont be so sensitive, just because i cant be bothered to waist any more time installing reason with you, deary me we are sensitive aren't we.
not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats,
+ I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, then you threaten WOW
just answer the question what assets are you on about simples
DEAR OH DEAR WHAT THREAT? ha,ha a Very vERY sensitive little bunny we have.ha,Ha
Will you two pack it in, I'm trying to dish out some abuse about Dumpburn here and im being overlooked because of your page hogging homo domestic !!!
[quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.[/p][/quote]The assets sold being ?[/p][/quote]Don t you know?[/p][/quote]No I dont so please enlighten me because you must know[/p][/quote]No point in enlightening a wet fire read the comments fans put on here and take it in, better still go on the dingles site and talk to your self[/p][/quote]WAKE UP tickle tan[/p][/quote]So you admit then you just come on here, state assets are being sold, Haven't a clue what assets have been sold, can`t tell me what assets you mean then tell me to wake up because everyone knows what assets have been sold. Just to make it easy for you , a simple question just list what assets have been sold so we all are very clear what you mean[/p][/quote]ONCE again no point enlightening a WET FIRE .time for you to talk to the hand.[/p][/quote]So you cant state which assets have been sold and revert to name calling and threats wow[/p][/quote]Dont be so sensitive, just because i cant be bothered to waist any more time installing reason with you, deary me we are sensitive aren't we.[/p][/quote]not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats, + I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, then you threaten WOW just answer the question what assets are you on about simples[/p][/quote]DEAR OH DEAR WHAT THREAT? ha,ha a Very vERY sensitive little bunny we have.ha,Ha[/p][/quote]Will you two pack it in, I'm trying to dish out some abuse about Dumpburn here and im being overlooked because of your page hogging homo domestic !!! Cha'mone MF

4:20pm Fri 15 Jun 12

StLedge says...

fickle fan wrote:
Hippocroccapig wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
DaBoss wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
benal13 wrote:
fickle fan wrote: not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats, + I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW just answer the question what assets are you on about simples
I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP
Well i would agree with you?
Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer. Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit
So you do agree with my comments earlier that jones was an asset?see you have answered your own question to me before ,very clever girl.
No you didn`t say jones was an asset someone else did. If you look back to the question I asked it was "what assets !" this was a question that you couldn`t answer if you did we could have had a conversation about why some players had been sold. You just resorted to name calling and childish threats and are still doing so rather than calling me a little girl you should ask a grown up about your replys
See your getting all flustered again, i did not call you a little girl ,i said young lady and once again i have not made any threat to you READ MY COMMENTS AGAIN YOUNG LADY.
oh ffs.. give it up children.. schools out. Its FFFFrrrridddaaaayyyy !
Read what you said it says girl, and it would appear that when you can,t answer a question you get personal I take speaking to your hand as a threat
Talk to the hand is a threat? Ha ha ha - get a grip
No not get a grip stop changing the subject and answer the 1st point I raised
Try reading who posted last.......!
[quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hippocroccapig[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DaBoss[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats, + I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW just answer the question what assets are you on about simples[/p][/quote]I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP[/p][/quote]Well i would agree with you?[/p][/quote]Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer. Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit[/p][/quote]So you do agree with my comments earlier that jones was an asset?see you have answered your own question to me before ,very clever girl.[/p][/quote]No you didn`t say jones was an asset someone else did. If you look back to the question I asked it was "what assets !" this was a question that you couldn`t answer if you did we could have had a conversation about why some players had been sold. You just resorted to name calling and childish threats and are still doing so rather than calling me a little girl you should ask a grown up about your replys[/p][/quote]See your getting all flustered again, i did not call you a little girl ,i said young lady and once again i have not made any threat to you READ MY COMMENTS AGAIN YOUNG LADY.[/p][/quote]oh ffs.. give it up children.. schools out. Its FFFFrrrridddaaaayyyy ![/p][/quote]Read what you said it says girl, and it would appear that when you can,t answer a question you get personal I take speaking to your hand as a threat[/p][/quote]Talk to the hand is a threat? Ha ha ha - get a grip[/p][/quote]No not get a grip stop changing the subject and answer the 1st point I raised[/p][/quote]Try reading who posted last.......! StLedge

4:24pm Fri 15 Jun 12

cs1717 says...

last job before the weekend .My colleague and I have had a fun packed afternoon deciding what we should run out to next season .Several ideas ( mainly bad ones as he's a dingle ) have been exchanged until we plumped for the Specials ghost town .We would obviously have to have the song re-recorded and the lyrics altered slightly without deviating too far from the original .So we have got the following -

" This ground
is coming like a ghost town
Fans won't come no more
too much .......????

As you can see we are stuck and are in need of your assistance .Any ideas ?
last job before the weekend .My colleague and I have had a fun packed afternoon deciding what we should run out to next season .Several ideas ( mainly bad ones as he's a dingle ) have been exchanged until we plumped for the Specials ghost town .We would obviously have to have the song re-recorded and the lyrics altered slightly without deviating too far from the original .So we have got the following - " This ground is coming like a ghost town Fans won't come no more too much .......???? As you can see we are stuck and are in need of your assistance .Any ideas ? cs1717

4:24pm Fri 15 Jun 12

StLedge says...

Cha'mone MF wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote: The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.
The assets sold being ?
Don t you know?
No I dont so please enlighten me because you must know
No point in enlightening a wet fire read the comments fans put on here and take it in, better still go on the dingles site and talk to your self
WAKE UP tickle tan
So you admit then you just come on here, state assets are being sold, Haven't a clue what assets have been sold, can`t tell me what assets you mean then tell me to wake up because everyone knows what assets have been sold. Just to make it easy for you , a simple question just list what assets have been sold so we all are very clear what you mean
ONCE again no point enlightening a WET FIRE .time for you to talk to the hand.
So you cant state which assets have been sold and revert to name calling and threats wow
Dont be so sensitive, just because i cant be bothered to waist any more time installing reason with you, deary me we are sensitive aren't we.
not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats, + I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, then you threaten WOW just answer the question what assets are you on about simples
DEAR OH DEAR WHAT THREAT? ha,ha a Very vERY sensitive little bunny we have.ha,Ha
Will you two pack it in, I'm trying to dish out some abuse about Dumpburn here and im being overlooked because of your page hogging homo domestic !!!
lolololololol Cheers Cham' that just cheared up my afternoon.
[quote][p][bold]Cha'mone MF[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.[/p][/quote]The assets sold being ?[/p][/quote]Don t you know?[/p][/quote]No I dont so please enlighten me because you must know[/p][/quote]No point in enlightening a wet fire read the comments fans put on here and take it in, better still go on the dingles site and talk to your self[/p][/quote]WAKE UP tickle tan[/p][/quote]So you admit then you just come on here, state assets are being sold, Haven't a clue what assets have been sold, can`t tell me what assets you mean then tell me to wake up because everyone knows what assets have been sold. Just to make it easy for you , a simple question just list what assets have been sold so we all are very clear what you mean[/p][/quote]ONCE again no point enlightening a WET FIRE .time for you to talk to the hand.[/p][/quote]So you cant state which assets have been sold and revert to name calling and threats wow[/p][/quote]Dont be so sensitive, just because i cant be bothered to waist any more time installing reason with you, deary me we are sensitive aren't we.[/p][/quote]not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats, + I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, then you threaten WOW just answer the question what assets are you on about simples[/p][/quote]DEAR OH DEAR WHAT THREAT? ha,ha a Very vERY sensitive little bunny we have.ha,Ha[/p][/quote]Will you two pack it in, I'm trying to dish out some abuse about Dumpburn here and im being overlooked because of your page hogging homo domestic !!![/p][/quote]lolololololol Cheers Cham' that just cheared up my afternoon. StLedge

4:26pm Fri 15 Jun 12

StLedge says...

*cheered
*cheered StLedge

4:29pm Fri 15 Jun 12

Harwoodstblue says...

Cha'mone MF wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.
The assets sold being ?
Don t you know?
No I dont so please enlighten me because you must know
No point in enlightening a wet fire read the comments fans put on here and take it in, better still go on the dingles site and talk to your self
WAKE UP tickle tan
So you admit then you just come on here, state assets are being sold, Haven't a clue what assets have been sold, can`t tell me what assets you mean then tell me to wake up because everyone knows what assets have been sold.
Just to make it easy for you , a simple question just list what assets have been sold so we all are very clear what you mean
ONCE again no point enlightening a WET FIRE .time for you to talk to the hand.
So you cant state which assets have been sold and revert to name calling and threats wow
Dont be so sensitive, just because i cant be bothered to waist any more time installing reason with you, deary me we are sensitive aren't we.
not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats,
+ I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, then you threaten WOW
just answer the question what assets are you on about simples
DEAR OH DEAR WHAT THREAT? ha,ha a Very vERY sensitive little bunny we have.ha,Ha
Will you two pack it in, I'm trying to dish out some abuse about Dumpburn here and im being overlooked because of your page hogging homo domestic !!!
"Dumpburn", That's rich coming from a Daneshouse "resident"
[quote][p][bold]Cha'mone MF[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.[/p][/quote]The assets sold being ?[/p][/quote]Don t you know?[/p][/quote]No I dont so please enlighten me because you must know[/p][/quote]No point in enlightening a wet fire read the comments fans put on here and take it in, better still go on the dingles site and talk to your self[/p][/quote]WAKE UP tickle tan[/p][/quote]So you admit then you just come on here, state assets are being sold, Haven't a clue what assets have been sold, can`t tell me what assets you mean then tell me to wake up because everyone knows what assets have been sold. Just to make it easy for you , a simple question just list what assets have been sold so we all are very clear what you mean[/p][/quote]ONCE again no point enlightening a WET FIRE .time for you to talk to the hand.[/p][/quote]So you cant state which assets have been sold and revert to name calling and threats wow[/p][/quote]Dont be so sensitive, just because i cant be bothered to waist any more time installing reason with you, deary me we are sensitive aren't we.[/p][/quote]not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats, + I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, then you threaten WOW just answer the question what assets are you on about simples[/p][/quote]DEAR OH DEAR WHAT THREAT? ha,ha a Very vERY sensitive little bunny we have.ha,Ha[/p][/quote]Will you two pack it in, I'm trying to dish out some abuse about Dumpburn here and im being overlooked because of your page hogging homo domestic !!![/p][/quote]"Dumpburn", That's rich coming from a Daneshouse "resident" Harwoodstblue

4:29pm Fri 15 Jun 12

roverfor60years says...

Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious
Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious roverfor60years

4:34pm Fri 15 Jun 12

alfa111 says...

roverfor60years wrote:
Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious
Well whats new?
[quote][p][bold]roverfor60years[/bold] wrote: Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious[/p][/quote]Well whats new? alfa111

4:38pm Fri 15 Jun 12

J.C - Rishton says...

DaBoss wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
benal13 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats,
+ I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW
just answer the question what assets are you on about simples
I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP
Well i would agree with you?
Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer.
Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit
quite right.

Asset stripping would be selling the players with the motive of financial benefit, which clearly with the reduction of the wage bill, clearing of debts and funding of new players does not allude to.

Was it the case? Only they know. to believe that is as fact is choice, to state it as fact and ridicule others for not believing it is being 'fallacious' to say the least.

(Toilet paper word of the day - woohoo used in a sentence!)

:)
Da Boss - you are obviously a very positive person and are trying to shine a slightly brighter light on our situation than the actual reality.
.
Firstly you keep banging on about "clearing our debt" - why have they done this ? - because they changed BANKS, no other reason.
.
Venkys continually REFUSED to clear their dept/put money in that Barclays required and Paul Hunt advised.
.
In the end Barclays simply could not work with Venkys (see limiting our bank overdraft that came in 1st Jan 2012).
.
In the end Venkys have now banked with Bank of India but back in India - not even a UK branch - so they cleared our over-draft off with Barclays because they could hardly close their account whilst having £5 or 6m outstanding could they.
.
Will Bank of India allow Venkys an overdraft on its Rovers account - of course, otherwise they simply wouldnt have opened an account with them - how large will this o/d become - none of us know.
.
However, if you are trying to argue that Venkys have put us on a better financial position then you are simply clinging to the "we don't have an overdraft now" like a drowning man grasping at straws.
.
Any football economist will tell you that clubs drop between £20-£25m in total revenue once relegated from the PL. Most of this is TV money. Also Rovers season ticket and CORPORATE sales have virtually colapsed so you can guess we are nearer the £25m than the £20m.
.
So Venkys have got us relegated by selling our best players and reducing the wage bill but this is pretty much irrelevant as simple maths shows you that we are financially much worse off and in a lower division.
.
Like I said, nothing wrong with trying to be positive but don't try to do it by only telling half the financial story, otherwise you just end up sounding like Steve Kean.
[quote][p][bold]DaBoss[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats, + I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW just answer the question what assets are you on about simples[/p][/quote]I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP[/p][/quote]Well i would agree with you?[/p][/quote]Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer. Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit[/p][/quote]quite right. Asset stripping would be selling the players with the motive of financial benefit, which clearly with the reduction of the wage bill, clearing of debts and funding of new players does not allude to. Was it the case? Only they know. to believe that is as fact is choice, to state it as fact and ridicule others for not believing it is being 'fallacious' to say the least. (Toilet paper word of the day - woohoo used in a sentence!) :)[/p][/quote]Da Boss - you are obviously a very positive person and are trying to shine a slightly brighter light on our situation than the actual reality. . Firstly you keep banging on about "clearing our debt" - why have they done this ? - because they changed BANKS, no other reason. . Venkys continually REFUSED to clear their dept/put money in that Barclays required and Paul Hunt advised. . In the end Barclays simply could not work with Venkys (see limiting our bank overdraft that came in 1st Jan 2012). . In the end Venkys have now banked with Bank of India but back in India - not even a UK branch - so they cleared our over-draft off with Barclays because they could hardly close their account whilst having £5 or 6m outstanding could they. . Will Bank of India allow Venkys an overdraft on its Rovers account - of course, otherwise they simply wouldnt have opened an account with them - how large will this o/d become - none of us know. . However, if you are trying to argue that Venkys have put us on a better financial position then you are simply clinging to the "we don't have an overdraft now" like a drowning man grasping at straws. . Any football economist will tell you that clubs drop between £20-£25m in total revenue once relegated from the PL. Most of this is TV money. Also Rovers season ticket and CORPORATE sales have virtually colapsed so you can guess we are nearer the £25m than the £20m. . So Venkys have got us relegated by selling our best players and reducing the wage bill but this is pretty much irrelevant as simple maths shows you that we are financially much worse off and in a lower division. . Like I said, nothing wrong with trying to be positive but don't try to do it by only telling half the financial story, otherwise you just end up sounding like Steve Kean. J.C - Rishton

4:39pm Fri 15 Jun 12

benal13 says...

StLedge wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
Hippocroccapig wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
DaBoss wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
benal13 wrote:
fickle fan wrote: not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats, + I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW just answer the question what assets are you on about simples
I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP
Well i would agree with you?
Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer. Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit
So you do agree with my comments earlier that jones was an asset?see you have answered your own question to me before ,very clever girl.
No you didn`t say jones was an asset someone else did. If you look back to the question I asked it was "what assets !" this was a question that you couldn`t answer if you did we could have had a conversation about why some players had been sold. You just resorted to name calling and childish threats and are still doing so rather than calling me a little girl you should ask a grown up about your replys
See your getting all flustered again, i did not call you a little girl ,i said young lady and once again i have not made any threat to you READ MY COMMENTS AGAIN YOUNG LADY.
oh ffs.. give it up children.. schools out. Its FFFFrrrridddaaaayyyy !
Read what you said it says girl, and it would appear that when you can,t answer a question you get personal I take speaking to your hand as a threat
Talk to the hand is a threat? Ha ha ha - get a grip
No not get a grip stop changing the subject and answer the 1st point I raised
Try reading who posted last.......!
MARAGE GUIDENCE WOULD THAT HELP
[quote][p][bold]StLedge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hippocroccapig[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DaBoss[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats, + I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW just answer the question what assets are you on about simples[/p][/quote]I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP[/p][/quote]Well i would agree with you?[/p][/quote]Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer. Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit[/p][/quote]So you do agree with my comments earlier that jones was an asset?see you have answered your own question to me before ,very clever girl.[/p][/quote]No you didn`t say jones was an asset someone else did. If you look back to the question I asked it was "what assets !" this was a question that you couldn`t answer if you did we could have had a conversation about why some players had been sold. You just resorted to name calling and childish threats and are still doing so rather than calling me a little girl you should ask a grown up about your replys[/p][/quote]See your getting all flustered again, i did not call you a little girl ,i said young lady and once again i have not made any threat to you READ MY COMMENTS AGAIN YOUNG LADY.[/p][/quote]oh ffs.. give it up children.. schools out. Its FFFFrrrridddaaaayyyy ![/p][/quote]Read what you said it says girl, and it would appear that when you can,t answer a question you get personal I take speaking to your hand as a threat[/p][/quote]Talk to the hand is a threat? Ha ha ha - get a grip[/p][/quote]No not get a grip stop changing the subject and answer the 1st point I raised[/p][/quote]Try reading who posted last.......![/p][/quote]MARAGE GUIDENCE WOULD THAT HELP benal13

4:51pm Fri 15 Jun 12

alfa111 says...

J.C - Rishton wrote:
DaBoss wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
alfa111 wrote:
benal13 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats,
+ I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW
just answer the question what assets are you on about simples
I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP
Well i would agree with you?
Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer.
Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit
quite right.

Asset stripping would be selling the players with the motive of financial benefit, which clearly with the reduction of the wage bill, clearing of debts and funding of new players does not allude to.

Was it the case? Only they know. to believe that is as fact is choice, to state it as fact and ridicule others for not believing it is being 'fallacious' to say the least.

(Toilet paper word of the day - woohoo used in a sentence!)

:)
Da Boss - you are obviously a very positive person and are trying to shine a slightly brighter light on our situation than the actual reality.
.
Firstly you keep banging on about "clearing our debt" - why have they done this ? - because they changed BANKS, no other reason.
.
Venkys continually REFUSED to clear their dept/put money in that Barclays required and Paul Hunt advised.
.
In the end Barclays simply could not work with Venkys (see limiting our bank overdraft that came in 1st Jan 2012).
.
In the end Venkys have now banked with Bank of India but back in India - not even a UK branch - so they cleared our over-draft off with Barclays because they could hardly close their account whilst having £5 or 6m outstanding could they.
.
Will Bank of India allow Venkys an overdraft on its Rovers account - of course, otherwise they simply wouldnt have opened an account with them - how large will this o/d become - none of us know.
.
However, if you are trying to argue that Venkys have put us on a better financial position then you are simply clinging to the "we don't have an overdraft now" like a drowning man grasping at straws.
.
Any football economist will tell you that clubs drop between £20-£25m in total revenue once relegated from the PL. Most of this is TV money. Also Rovers season ticket and CORPORATE sales have virtually colapsed so you can guess we are nearer the £25m than the £20m.
.
So Venkys have got us relegated by selling our best players and reducing the wage bill but this is pretty much irrelevant as simple maths shows you that we are financially much worse off and in a lower division.
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Like I said, nothing wrong with trying to be positive but don't try to do it by only telling half the financial story, otherwise you just end up sounding like Steve Kean.
Spot on fella sticks out like a sore thumb
[quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DaBoss[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfa111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats, + I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW just answer the question what assets are you on about simples[/p][/quote]I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP[/p][/quote]Well i would agree with you?[/p][/quote]Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer. Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit[/p][/quote]quite right. Asset stripping would be selling the players with the motive of financial benefit, which clearly with the reduction of the wage bill, clearing of debts and funding of new players does not allude to. Was it the case? Only they know. to believe that is as fact is choice, to state it as fact and ridicule others for not believing it is being 'fallacious' to say the least. (Toilet paper word of the day - woohoo used in a sentence!) :)[/p][/quote]Da Boss - you are obviously a very positive person and are trying to shine a slightly brighter light on our situation than the actual reality. . Firstly you keep banging on about "clearing our debt" - why have they done this ? - because they changed BANKS, no other reason. . Venkys continually REFUSED to clear their dept/put money in that Barclays required and Paul Hunt advised. . In the end Barclays simply could not work with Venkys (see limiting our bank overdraft that came in 1st Jan 2012). . In the end Venkys have now banked with Bank of India but back in India - not even a UK branch - so they cleared our over-draft off with Barclays because they could hardly close their account whilst having £5 or 6m outstanding could they. . Will Bank of India allow Venkys an overdraft on its Rovers account - of course, otherwise they simply wouldnt have opened an account with them - how large will this o/d become - none of us know. . However, if you are trying to argue that Venkys have put us on a better financial position then you are simply clinging to the "we don't have an overdraft now" like a drowning man grasping at straws. . Any football economist will tell you that clubs drop between £20-£25m in total revenue once relegated from the PL. Most of this is TV money. Also Rovers season ticket and CORPORATE sales have virtually colapsed so you can guess we are nearer the £25m than the £20m. . So Venkys have got us relegated by selling our best players and reducing the wage bill but this is pretty much irrelevant as simple maths shows you that we are financially much worse off and in a lower division. . Like I said, nothing wrong with trying to be positive but don't try to do it by only telling half the financial story, otherwise you just end up sounding like Steve Kean.[/p][/quote]Spot on fella sticks out like a sore thumb alfa111

4:53pm Fri 15 Jun 12

J.C - Rishton says...

roverfor60years wrote:
If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits. The next step will be insolvency, unpaid bills – and not just administration but liquidation.
We have fallen off the cliff. I fear the damage Venky’s have wreaked on us, both on and off the field, is irreparable and they show no signs of making any effort to get the club back on track.
Five critical weeks of virtual silence and inactivity, with pre-season preparation now virtually upon us. Four abysmal decisions so far – the elevation of the press officer, the imminent arrival of Shebby the TV pundit, the removal of John Newsome and the apparent retention of Steve Kean – which are just as misguided as all the preceding ones and which give no cause for optimism.
Desai once said her father told her when she took over from him that she had to get seven out of ten decisions correct. So far she has not got one right here.
I think Mick Rathbone is right. There is going to be an even bigger scramble by clubs to get into the Premier League now and the successful ones will have to invest more heavily than ever before to do it. In that scenario we are going to be left among the stragglers, sinking deeper and deeper into obscurity – unless there is some unexpected salvation.
If Venky’s have an ounce of business acumen, they will sell the club without delay for whatever they can get and bank their profits, because soon it will be weighed down in debt, not worth a bean and they will be forced to walk away in disgrace.
On a wider scale, the TV deal just announced is plain crazy. Greedy players will be even greedier, squeezing clubs even harder, and the game in this country is now ripe for plucking (no pun intended).
Crooks already have their fingers in the pie and if the Mafia aren’t already here they soon will be.
The football authorities need to open their eyes to the dangers. Italy has already sounded the alarm bells and they will ignore the looming catastrophe at their peril.
Excellent post and a good insight into Rovers current situation (DaBoss take note !).
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Off the field, we continue to be a complete and utter shambles and financially, its hard to really know how bad things are but I very much suspect that virtually ALL payer sales from this window will go to plug the shortfall in our accounts and non on player purchases which will, in turn will mean a long hard struggle against relegation with a very thin squad and inept manager.
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I honestly think that ALL the "B" are gonna struggle in the championship this season -

I predict Blackburn, Blackpool, Burnley, Barnsley and Bristol City will ALL be in the bottom half of the division come the end of the season.

(and before Burnley fans come on having a dig for me putting them in this group) I think Burnley finished mid table last season and have now sold their best player so straight away they have a tougher job and also they have had an £8m reduction in their TV income - a fact that never seems to get mentioned by Burnley fans but must have an impact on their playing staff/situation. They have also just signed a non-league youngster (I'm sure they'll sign some more sesoned players as well) but it hardly smacks of "ambition", espectially when Cardiff anounced only last week that their owners will be investing £100m in club infra structure and players.
[quote][p][bold]roverfor60years[/bold] wrote: If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits. The next step will be insolvency, unpaid bills – and not just administration but liquidation. We have fallen off the cliff. I fear the damage Venky’s have wreaked on us, both on and off the field, is irreparable and they show no signs of making any effort to get the club back on track. Five critical weeks of virtual silence and inactivity, with pre-season preparation now virtually upon us. Four abysmal decisions so far – the elevation of the press officer, the imminent arrival of Shebby the TV pundit, the removal of John Newsome and the apparent retention of Steve Kean – which are just as misguided as all the preceding ones and which give no cause for optimism. Desai once said her father told her when she took over from him that she had to get seven out of ten decisions correct. So far she has not got one right here. I think Mick Rathbone is right. There is going to be an even bigger scramble by clubs to get into the Premier League now and the successful ones will have to invest more heavily than ever before to do it. In that scenario we are going to be left among the stragglers, sinking deeper and deeper into obscurity – unless there is some unexpected salvation. If Venky’s have an ounce of business acumen, they will sell the club without delay for whatever they can get and bank their profits, because soon it will be weighed down in debt, not worth a bean and they will be forced to walk away in disgrace. On a wider scale, the TV deal just announced is plain crazy. Greedy players will be even greedier, squeezing clubs even harder, and the game in this country is now ripe for plucking (no pun intended). Crooks already have their fingers in the pie and if the Mafia aren’t already here they soon will be. The football authorities need to open their eyes to the dangers. Italy has already sounded the alarm bells and they will ignore the looming catastrophe at their peril.[/p][/quote]Excellent post and a good insight into Rovers current situation (DaBoss take note !). . Off the field, we continue to be a complete and utter shambles and financially, its hard to really know how bad things are but I very much suspect that virtually ALL payer sales from this window will go to plug the shortfall in our accounts and non on player purchases which will, in turn will mean a long hard struggle against relegation with a very thin squad and inept manager. . I honestly think that ALL the "B" are gonna struggle in the championship this season - I predict Blackburn, Blackpool, Burnley, Barnsley and Bristol City will ALL be in the bottom half of the division come the end of the season. (and before Burnley fans come on having a dig for me putting them in this group) I think Burnley finished mid table last season and have now sold their best player so straight away they have a tougher job and also they have had an £8m reduction in their TV income - a fact that never seems to get mentioned by Burnley fans but must have an impact on their playing staff/situation. They have also just signed a non-league youngster (I'm sure they'll sign some more sesoned players as well) but it hardly smacks of "ambition", espectially when Cardiff anounced only last week that their owners will be investing £100m in club infra structure and players. J.C - Rishton

4:56pm Fri 15 Jun 12

roverfor60years says...

I'm not going to further clog things up by showing the previous comments, but spot on, J.C-Rishton. Absolutely correct.
I wonder if Bank of India are concerned about a default on the debt, just as Barclays were? At the last count I believe our debt was over £26 million.
I'm not going to further clog things up by showing the previous comments, but spot on, J.C-Rishton. Absolutely correct. I wonder if Bank of India are concerned about a default on the debt, just as Barclays were? At the last count I believe our debt was over £26 million. roverfor60years

5:10pm Fri 15 Jun 12

stick to football says...

An interesting article on Rovers in a Local Paper not too far from Lancashire

http://www.timesands
tar.co.uk/sport/john
-fuller-football-1.9
23832/cowardly-venky
-s-to-blame-for-blac
kburn-chaos-1.952653
An interesting article on Rovers in a Local Paper not too far from Lancashire http://www.timesands tar.co.uk/sport/john -fuller-football-1.9 23832/cowardly-venky -s-to-blame-for-blac kburn-chaos-1.952653 stick to football

5:25pm Fri 15 Jun 12

bring back the good old days says...

J.C - Rishton wrote:
roverfor60years wrote:
If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits. The next step will be insolvency, unpaid bills – and not just administration but liquidation.
We have fallen off the cliff. I fear the damage Venky’s have wreaked on us, both on and off the field, is irreparable and they show no signs of making any effort to get the club back on track.
Five critical weeks of virtual silence and inactivity, with pre-season preparation now virtually upon us. Four abysmal decisions so far – the elevation of the press officer, the imminent arrival of Shebby the TV pundit, the removal of John Newsome and the apparent retention of Steve Kean – which are just as misguided as all the preceding ones and which give no cause for optimism.
Desai once said her father told her when she took over from him that she had to get seven out of ten decisions correct. So far she has not got one right here.
I think Mick Rathbone is right. There is going to be an even bigger scramble by clubs to get into the Premier League now and the successful ones will have to invest more heavily than ever before to do it. In that scenario we are going to be left among the stragglers, sinking deeper and deeper into obscurity – unless there is some unexpected salvation.
If Venky’s have an ounce of business acumen, they will sell the club without delay for whatever they can get and bank their profits, because soon it will be weighed down in debt, not worth a bean and they will be forced to walk away in disgrace.
On a wider scale, the TV deal just announced is plain crazy. Greedy players will be even greedier, squeezing clubs even harder, and the game in this country is now ripe for plucking (no pun intended).
Crooks already have their fingers in the pie and if the Mafia aren’t already here they soon will be.
The football authorities need to open their eyes to the dangers. Italy has already sounded the alarm bells and they will ignore the looming catastrophe at their peril.
Excellent post and a good insight into Rovers current situation (DaBoss take note !).
.
Off the field, we continue to be a complete and utter shambles and financially, its hard to really know how bad things are but I very much suspect that virtually ALL payer sales from this window will go to plug the shortfall in our accounts and non on player purchases which will, in turn will mean a long hard struggle against relegation with a very thin squad and inept manager.
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I honestly think that ALL the "B" are gonna struggle in the championship this season -

I predict Blackburn, Blackpool, Burnley, Barnsley and Bristol City will ALL be in the bottom half of the division come the end of the season.

(and before Burnley fans come on having a dig for me putting them in this group) I think Burnley finished mid table last season and have now sold their best player so straight away they have a tougher job and also they have had an £8m reduction in their TV income - a fact that never seems to get mentioned by Burnley fans but must have an impact on their playing staff/situation. They have also just signed a non-league youngster (I'm sure they'll sign some more sesoned players as well) but it hardly smacks of "ambition", espectially when Cardiff anounced only last week that their owners will be investing £100m in club infra structure and players.
Clearing an overdraft by selling on most valued assets and thus lurching us into relegation , now that's a real masterstroke.
Does not take an accountant to work out the pitfall in that
[quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roverfor60years[/bold] wrote: If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits. The next step will be insolvency, unpaid bills – and not just administration but liquidation. We have fallen off the cliff. I fear the damage Venky’s have wreaked on us, both on and off the field, is irreparable and they show no signs of making any effort to get the club back on track. Five critical weeks of virtual silence and inactivity, with pre-season preparation now virtually upon us. Four abysmal decisions so far – the elevation of the press officer, the imminent arrival of Shebby the TV pundit, the removal of John Newsome and the apparent retention of Steve Kean – which are just as misguided as all the preceding ones and which give no cause for optimism. Desai once said her father told her when she took over from him that she had to get seven out of ten decisions correct. So far she has not got one right here. I think Mick Rathbone is right. There is going to be an even bigger scramble by clubs to get into the Premier League now and the successful ones will have to invest more heavily than ever before to do it. In that scenario we are going to be left among the stragglers, sinking deeper and deeper into obscurity – unless there is some unexpected salvation. If Venky’s have an ounce of business acumen, they will sell the club without delay for whatever they can get and bank their profits, because soon it will be weighed down in debt, not worth a bean and they will be forced to walk away in disgrace. On a wider scale, the TV deal just announced is plain crazy. Greedy players will be even greedier, squeezing clubs even harder, and the game in this country is now ripe for plucking (no pun intended). Crooks already have their fingers in the pie and if the Mafia aren’t already here they soon will be. The football authorities need to open their eyes to the dangers. Italy has already sounded the alarm bells and they will ignore the looming catastrophe at their peril.[/p][/quote]Excellent post and a good insight into Rovers current situation (DaBoss take note !). . Off the field, we continue to be a complete and utter shambles and financially, its hard to really know how bad things are but I very much suspect that virtually ALL payer sales from this window will go to plug the shortfall in our accounts and non on player purchases which will, in turn will mean a long hard struggle against relegation with a very thin squad and inept manager. . I honestly think that ALL the "B" are gonna struggle in the championship this season - I predict Blackburn, Blackpool, Burnley, Barnsley and Bristol City will ALL be in the bottom half of the division come the end of the season. (and before Burnley fans come on having a dig for me putting them in this group) I think Burnley finished mid table last season and have now sold their best player so straight away they have a tougher job and also they have had an £8m reduction in their TV income - a fact that never seems to get mentioned by Burnley fans but must have an impact on their playing staff/situation. They have also just signed a non-league youngster (I'm sure they'll sign some more sesoned players as well) but it hardly smacks of "ambition", espectially when Cardiff anounced only last week that their owners will be investing £100m in club infra structure and players.[/p][/quote]Clearing an overdraft by selling on most valued assets and thus lurching us into relegation , now that's a real masterstroke. Does not take an accountant to work out the pitfall in that bring back the good old days

6:04pm Fri 15 Jun 12

DaBoss says...

roverfor60years wrote:
I'm not going to further clog things up by showing the previous comments, but spot on, J.C-Rishton. Absolutely correct.
I wonder if Bank of India are concerned about a default on the debt, just as Barclays were? At the last count I believe our debt was over £26 million.
I don't remember ever saying we were financially sound, I said sustainable business which it is whatever your opinions may be.

As I've said before, those who live in the aconspiracy and we're all doomed world need to maybe come to terms with the fact that the club was sold out and is no longer your concern, cern, as it matters little to the owners whether you believe they are working in the interests of the club or not.

Regardless of the efforts made by BRSIT and others, it is extremely delusional to believe the fans can ever own or run the club, you've more chance of Venky's asking the fans for advice (again).

I have to wonder J C Rishton and all those that believe that the club is headed for destruction and that its all over, why are you still here? if you really believe that the club is a goner, surely you've better use of your time concentrating on a club/team that isnt mistreating the fans the way you lot keep going on about?

Unless you are really that deluded to believe that Venkys will eventually hand over the club to the fans or end up in administration to be bought back.. in which case even that was remotely possible, it would be years away.

There seems to be a last of the summer wine grump brigade on here that just loves to lament over and over again about how they are being mistreated as fans and how its all over for Rovers... and then you wonder why dingles love coming on here to have a pop at the easy targets.

Its like shooting chickens in a barrel.
[quote][p][bold]roverfor60years[/bold] wrote: I'm not going to further clog things up by showing the previous comments, but spot on, J.C-Rishton. Absolutely correct. I wonder if Bank of India are concerned about a default on the debt, just as Barclays were? At the last count I believe our debt was over £26 million.[/p][/quote]I don't remember ever saying we were financially sound, I said sustainable business which it is whatever your opinions may be. As I've said before, those who live in the aconspiracy and we're all doomed world need to maybe come to terms with the fact that the club was sold out and is no longer your concern, cern, as it matters little to the owners whether you believe they are working in the interests of the club or not. Regardless of the efforts made by BRSIT and others, it is extremely delusional to believe the fans can ever own or run the club, you've more chance of Venky's asking the fans for advice (again). I have to wonder J C Rishton and all those that believe that the club is headed for destruction and that its all over, why are you still here? if you really believe that the club is a goner, surely you've better use of your time concentrating on a club/team that isnt mistreating the fans the way you lot keep going on about? Unless you are really that deluded to believe that Venkys will eventually hand over the club to the fans or end up in administration to be bought back.. in which case even that was remotely possible, it would be years away. There seems to be a last of the summer wine grump brigade on here that just loves to lament over and over again about how they are being mistreated as fans and how its all over for Rovers... and then you wonder why dingles love coming on here to have a pop at the easy targets. Its like shooting chickens in a barrel. DaBoss

6:07pm Fri 15 Jun 12

DaBoss says...

ignore the quote btw, stupid phone and stupid clogged up with adverts LET site with its stupid flash and scripts.
ignore the quote btw, stupid phone and stupid clogged up with adverts LET site with its stupid flash and scripts. DaBoss

6:12pm Fri 15 Jun 12

petemcglinn says...

stick to football wrote:
An interesting article on Rovers in a Local Paper not too far from Lancashire

http://www.timesands

tar.co.uk/sport/john

-fuller-football-Jus
t read it, nice read and it's good that a neutral agrees with what most rovers fans have been saying for a long while.

RTID
[quote][p][bold]stick to football[/bold] wrote: An interesting article on Rovers in a Local Paper not too far from Lancashire http://www.timesands tar.co.uk/sport/john -fuller-football-Jus t read it, nice read and it's good that a neutral agrees with what most rovers fans have been saying for a long while. RTID petemcglinn

6:15pm Fri 15 Jun 12

DaBoss says...

No-one can deny the club is in a bad place, whether its the worst its ever been is open to interpretation, but the baseless "mafia" connections, asset stripping et al makes for comical reading for any dingle.

The only thing thats gone on here is bad management due to incompetence and bad advice by greedy agents (when have you known agents to be otherwise?) and possibly deliberate miscommunication and certainly of recent, lack of it.

Where we end up next season is in the hands of Venkys and what they decide to do next.
No-one can deny the club is in a bad place, whether its the worst its ever been is open to interpretation, but the baseless "mafia" connections, asset stripping et al makes for comical reading for any dingle. The only thing thats gone on here is bad management due to incompetence and bad advice by greedy agents (when have you known agents to be otherwise?) and possibly deliberate miscommunication and certainly of recent, lack of it. Where we end up next season is in the hands of Venkys and what they decide to do next. DaBoss

6:44pm Fri 15 Jun 12

BashirShah says...

DaBoss wrote:
ignore the quote btw, stupid phone and stupid clogged up with adverts LET site with its stupid flash and scripts.
If you are using an Android phone and have Ice cream Sandwich on it, install and use Chrome, if you dont have ICS, try using Dolphin or Boat browser and turn flash to ON DEMAND only.

If you're on an iPhone you should nt be having any problems posting.

Hope that helps.
[quote][p][bold]DaBoss[/bold] wrote: ignore the quote btw, stupid phone and stupid clogged up with adverts LET site with its stupid flash and scripts.[/p][/quote]If you are using an Android phone and have Ice cream Sandwich on it, install and use Chrome, if you dont have ICS, try using Dolphin or Boat browser and turn flash to ON DEMAND only. If you're on an iPhone you should nt be having any problems posting. Hope that helps. BashirShah

6:44pm Fri 15 Jun 12

nontetleysdog says...

DaBoss wrote:
No-one can deny the club is in a bad place, whether its the worst its ever been is open to interpretation, but the baseless "mafia" connections, asset stripping et al makes for comical reading for any dingle.

The only thing thats gone on here is bad management due to incompetence and bad advice by greedy agents (when have you known agents to be otherwise?) and possibly deliberate miscommunication and certainly of recent, lack of it.

Where we end up next season is in the hands of Venkys and what they decide to do next.
Got to agree with you on this one boss !!! Trampburn R*vers is in a very bad place.......smack bang right in the middle of a massive caravan site.

And if things were not bad enough it has come to light that you are skint and on the verge of recruiting one of the biggest crooks to ever come out of scotland in Colin ( i am not a conman honest ) Hendry.
[quote][p][bold]DaBoss[/bold] wrote: No-one can deny the club is in a bad place, whether its the worst its ever been is open to interpretation, but the baseless "mafia" connections, asset stripping et al makes for comical reading for any dingle. The only thing thats gone on here is bad management due to incompetence and bad advice by greedy agents (when have you known agents to be otherwise?) and possibly deliberate miscommunication and certainly of recent, lack of it. Where we end up next season is in the hands of Venkys and what they decide to do next.[/p][/quote]Got to agree with you on this one boss !!! Trampburn R*vers is in a very bad place.......smack bang right in the middle of a massive caravan site. And if things were not bad enough it has come to light that you are skint and on the verge of recruiting one of the biggest crooks to ever come out of scotland in Colin ( i am not a conman honest ) Hendry. nontetleysdog

6:54pm Fri 15 Jun 12

roverfor60years says...

DaBoss wrote:
No-one can deny the club is in a bad place, whether its the worst its ever been is open to interpretation, but the baseless "mafia" connections, asset stripping et al makes for comical reading for any dingle.

The only thing thats gone on here is bad management due to incompetence and bad advice by greedy agents (when have you known agents to be otherwise?) and possibly deliberate miscommunication and certainly of recent, lack of it.

Where we end up next season is in the hands of Venkys and what they decide to do next.
You have misread my comment. My reference to the Mafia was in connection with the Premier League corruption, not the Rovers. Re-read it.
[quote][p][bold]DaBoss[/bold] wrote: No-one can deny the club is in a bad place, whether its the worst its ever been is open to interpretation, but the baseless "mafia" connections, asset stripping et al makes for comical reading for any dingle. The only thing thats gone on here is bad management due to incompetence and bad advice by greedy agents (when have you known agents to be otherwise?) and possibly deliberate miscommunication and certainly of recent, lack of it. Where we end up next season is in the hands of Venkys and what they decide to do next.[/p][/quote]You have misread my comment. My reference to the Mafia was in connection with the Premier League corruption, not the Rovers. Re-read it. roverfor60years

7:00pm Fri 15 Jun 12

DaBoss says...

nontetleysdog wrote:
DaBoss wrote:
No-one can deny the club is in a bad place, whether its the worst its ever been is open to interpretation, but the baseless "mafia" connections, asset stripping et al makes for comical reading for any dingle.

The only thing thats gone on here is bad management due to incompetence and bad advice by greedy agents (when have you known agents to be otherwise?) and possibly deliberate miscommunication and certainly of recent, lack of it.

Where we end up next season is in the hands of Venkys and what they decide to do next.
Got to agree with you on this one boss !!! Trampburn R*vers is in a very bad place.......smack bang right in the middle of a massive caravan site.

And if things were not bad enough it has come to light that you are skint and on the verge of recruiting one of the biggest crooks to ever come out of scotland in Colin ( i am not a conman honest ) Hendry.
yeah.. but Rovers would still have to start the season before to be as sh!t as Turd More.. where less (or none in the case of the trophy cabinet) is really moor... Turd Moor.
[quote][p][bold]nontetleysdog[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DaBoss[/bold] wrote: No-one can deny the club is in a bad place, whether its the worst its ever been is open to interpretation, but the baseless "mafia" connections, asset stripping et al makes for comical reading for any dingle. The only thing thats gone on here is bad management due to incompetence and bad advice by greedy agents (when have you known agents to be otherwise?) and possibly deliberate miscommunication and certainly of recent, lack of it. Where we end up next season is in the hands of Venkys and what they decide to do next.[/p][/quote]Got to agree with you on this one boss !!! Trampburn R*vers is in a very bad place.......smack bang right in the middle of a massive caravan site. And if things were not bad enough it has come to light that you are skint and on the verge of recruiting one of the biggest crooks to ever come out of scotland in Colin ( i am not a conman honest ) Hendry.[/p][/quote]yeah.. but Rovers would still have to start the season before to be as sh!t as Turd More.. where less (or none in the case of the trophy cabinet) is really moor... Turd Moor. DaBoss

7:05pm Fri 15 Jun 12

fickle fan says...

roverfor60years wrote:
Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious
Which bit of what I have said is garbage.

please quote.!
also
roverfor60years wrote:
If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits

please describe what profit they have so far made from the club.
not just a random statement they have made profits.
also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC
[quote][p][bold]roverfor60years[/bold] wrote: Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious[/p][/quote]Which bit of what I have said is garbage. please quote.! also roverfor60years wrote: If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits please describe what profit they have so far made from the club. not just a random statement they have made profits. also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC fickle fan

7:30pm Fri 15 Jun 12

DaBoss says...

BashirShah wrote:
DaBoss wrote:
ignore the quote btw, stupid phone and stupid clogged up with adverts LET site with its stupid flash and scripts.
If you are using an Android phone and have Ice cream Sandwich on it, install and use Chrome, if you dont have ICS, try using Dolphin or Boat browser and turn flash to ON DEMAND only.

If you're on an iPhone you should nt be having any problems posting.

Hope that helps.
Ta much, that worked great, stupid flash ads. I tried the LET site in mobile mode but can't see the comments or make comments?
[quote][p][bold]BashirShah[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DaBoss[/bold] wrote: ignore the quote btw, stupid phone and stupid clogged up with adverts LET site with its stupid flash and scripts.[/p][/quote]If you are using an Android phone and have Ice cream Sandwich on it, install and use Chrome, if you dont have ICS, try using Dolphin or Boat browser and turn flash to ON DEMAND only. If you're on an iPhone you should nt be having any problems posting. Hope that helps.[/p][/quote]Ta much, that worked great, stupid flash ads. I tried the LET site in mobile mode but can't see the comments or make comments? DaBoss

7:33pm Fri 15 Jun 12

Harwoodstblue says...

nontetleysdog wrote:
DaBoss wrote:
No-one can deny the club is in a bad place, whether its the worst its ever been is open to interpretation, but the baseless "mafia" connections, asset stripping et al makes for comical reading for any dingle.

The only thing thats gone on here is bad management due to incompetence and bad advice by greedy agents (when have you known agents to be otherwise?) and possibly deliberate miscommunication and certainly of recent, lack of it.

Where we end up next season is in the hands of Venkys and what they decide to do next.
Got to agree with you on this one boss !!! Trampburn R*vers is in a very bad place.......smack bang right in the middle of a massive caravan site.

And if things were not bad enough it has come to light that you are skint and on the verge of recruiting one of the biggest crooks to ever come out of scotland in Colin ( i am not a conman honest ) Hendry.
I've got a caravan. It's parked at the bottom of your street in Daneshouse.
.
It's the one with two BMW 4x4s parked next to it.
.
I needed a spare tyre for the BMW and when they told me the cost, I realised I could have bought a house next door to you for the same price.
[quote][p][bold]nontetleysdog[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DaBoss[/bold] wrote: No-one can deny the club is in a bad place, whether its the worst its ever been is open to interpretation, but the baseless "mafia" connections, asset stripping et al makes for comical reading for any dingle. The only thing thats gone on here is bad management due to incompetence and bad advice by greedy agents (when have you known agents to be otherwise?) and possibly deliberate miscommunication and certainly of recent, lack of it. Where we end up next season is in the hands of Venkys and what they decide to do next.[/p][/quote]Got to agree with you on this one boss !!! Trampburn R*vers is in a very bad place.......smack bang right in the middle of a massive caravan site. And if things were not bad enough it has come to light that you are skint and on the verge of recruiting one of the biggest crooks to ever come out of scotland in Colin ( i am not a conman honest ) Hendry.[/p][/quote]I've got a caravan. It's parked at the bottom of your street in Daneshouse. . It's the one with two BMW 4x4s parked next to it. . I needed a spare tyre for the BMW and when they told me the cost, I realised I could have bought a house next door to you for the same price. Harwoodstblue

7:38pm Fri 15 Jun 12

Harwoodstblue says...

fickle fan wrote:
roverfor60years wrote:
Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious
Which bit of what I have said is garbage.

please quote.!
also
roverfor60years wrote:
If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits

please describe what profit they have so far made from the club.
not just a random statement they have made profits.
also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC
Bu**er off FF, we've heard enough of your gob today.
[quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roverfor60years[/bold] wrote: Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious[/p][/quote]Which bit of what I have said is garbage. please quote.! also roverfor60years wrote: If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits please describe what profit they have so far made from the club. not just a random statement they have made profits. also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC[/p][/quote]Bu**er off FF, we've heard enough of your gob today. Harwoodstblue

7:41pm Fri 15 Jun 12

fickle fan says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
roverfor60years wrote:
Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious
Which bit of what I have said is garbage.

please quote.!
also
roverfor60years wrote:
If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits

please describe what profit they have so far made from the club.
not just a random statement they have made profits.
also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC
Bu**er off FF, we've heard enough of your gob today.
rather than swearing and getting abusive I have raised one point so perhaps you could answer

how have venkys made any money from BRFC
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roverfor60years[/bold] wrote: Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious[/p][/quote]Which bit of what I have said is garbage. please quote.! also roverfor60years wrote: If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits please describe what profit they have so far made from the club. not just a random statement they have made profits. also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC[/p][/quote]Bu**er off FF, we've heard enough of your gob today.[/p][/quote]rather than swearing and getting abusive I have raised one point so perhaps you could answer how have venkys made any money from BRFC fickle fan

7:50pm Fri 15 Jun 12

Harwoodstblue says...

fickle fan wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
roverfor60years wrote:
Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious
Which bit of what I have said is garbage.

please quote.!
also
roverfor60years wrote:
If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits

please describe what profit they have so far made from the club.
not just a random statement they have made profits.
also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC
Bu**er off FF, we've heard enough of your gob today.
rather than swearing and getting abusive I have raised one point so perhaps you could answer

how have venkys made any money from BRFC
Just leave it alone, give it a rest . have you nothing better to do?
[quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roverfor60years[/bold] wrote: Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious[/p][/quote]Which bit of what I have said is garbage. please quote.! also roverfor60years wrote: If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits please describe what profit they have so far made from the club. not just a random statement they have made profits. also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC[/p][/quote]Bu**er off FF, we've heard enough of your gob today.[/p][/quote]rather than swearing and getting abusive I have raised one point so perhaps you could answer how have venkys made any money from BRFC[/p][/quote]Just leave it alone, give it a rest . have you nothing better to do? Harwoodstblue

7:58pm Fri 15 Jun 12

fickle fan says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
roverfor60years wrote:
Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious
Which bit of what I have said is garbage.

please quote.!
also
roverfor60years wrote:
If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits

please describe what profit they have so far made from the club.
not just a random statement they have made profits.
also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC
Bu**er off FF, we've heard enough of your gob today.
rather than swearing and getting abusive I have raised one point so perhaps you could answer

how have venkys made any money from BRFC
Just leave it alone, give it a rest . have you nothing better to do?
So i raise a point you cant provide a sensible reasoned response so I have to give it a rest after you have sworn at me.


roverfor60years wrote: If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits
If this comment cannot be backed up and show where the profits have been made why don`t you suggest that he gives it a rest.
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roverfor60years[/bold] wrote: Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious[/p][/quote]Which bit of what I have said is garbage. please quote.! also roverfor60years wrote: If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits please describe what profit they have so far made from the club. not just a random statement they have made profits. also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC[/p][/quote]Bu**er off FF, we've heard enough of your gob today.[/p][/quote]rather than swearing and getting abusive I have raised one point so perhaps you could answer how have venkys made any money from BRFC[/p][/quote]Just leave it alone, give it a rest . have you nothing better to do?[/p][/quote]So i raise a point you cant provide a sensible reasoned response so I have to give it a rest after you have sworn at me. roverfor60years wrote: If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits If this comment cannot be backed up and show where the profits have been made why don`t you suggest that he gives it a rest. fickle fan

8:12pm Fri 15 Jun 12

Harwoodstblue says...

fickle fan wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
roverfor60years wrote:
Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious
Which bit of what I have said is garbage.

please quote.!
also
roverfor60years wrote:
If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits

please describe what profit they have so far made from the club.
not just a random statement they have made profits.
also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC
Bu**er off FF, we've heard enough of your gob today.
rather than swearing and getting abusive I have raised one point so perhaps you could answer

how have venkys made any money from BRFC
Just leave it alone, give it a rest . have you nothing better to do?
So i raise a point you cant provide a sensible reasoned response so I have to give it a rest after you have sworn at me.


roverfor60years wrote: If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits
If this comment cannot be backed up and show where the profits have been made why don`t you suggest that he gives it a rest.
There are 120 comments on here today and you must have made half of them. I repeat, give it a rest. goodbye.
[quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roverfor60years[/bold] wrote: Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious[/p][/quote]Which bit of what I have said is garbage. please quote.! also roverfor60years wrote: If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits please describe what profit they have so far made from the club. not just a random statement they have made profits. also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC[/p][/quote]Bu**er off FF, we've heard enough of your gob today.[/p][/quote]rather than swearing and getting abusive I have raised one point so perhaps you could answer how have venkys made any money from BRFC[/p][/quote]Just leave it alone, give it a rest . have you nothing better to do?[/p][/quote]So i raise a point you cant provide a sensible reasoned response so I have to give it a rest after you have sworn at me. roverfor60years wrote: If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits If this comment cannot be backed up and show where the profits have been made why don`t you suggest that he gives it a rest.[/p][/quote]There are 120 comments on here today and you must have made half of them. I repeat, give it a rest. goodbye. Harwoodstblue

8:19pm Fri 15 Jun 12

fickle fan says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
roverfor60years wrote:
Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious
Which bit of what I have said is garbage.

please quote.!
also
roverfor60years wrote:
If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits

please describe what profit they have so far made from the club.
not just a random statement they have made profits.
also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC
Bu**er off FF, we've heard enough of your gob today.
rather than swearing and getting abusive I have raised one point so perhaps you could answer

how have venkys made any money from BRFC
Just leave it alone, give it a rest . have you nothing better to do?
So i raise a point you cant provide a sensible reasoned response so I have to give it a rest after you have sworn at me.


roverfor60years wrote: If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits
If this comment cannot be backed up and show where the profits have been made why don`t you suggest that he gives it a rest.
There are 120 comments on here today and you must have made half of them. I repeat, give it a rest. goodbye.
No made 1 comment How have venkys made a profit from BRFC still awaiting an answer
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roverfor60years[/bold] wrote: Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious[/p][/quote]Which bit of what I have said is garbage. please quote.! also roverfor60years wrote: If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits please describe what profit they have so far made from the club. not just a random statement they have made profits. also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC[/p][/quote]Bu**er off FF, we've heard enough of your gob today.[/p][/quote]rather than swearing and getting abusive I have raised one point so perhaps you could answer how have venkys made any money from BRFC[/p][/quote]Just leave it alone, give it a rest . have you nothing better to do?[/p][/quote]So i raise a point you cant provide a sensible reasoned response so I have to give it a rest after you have sworn at me. roverfor60years wrote: If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits If this comment cannot be backed up and show where the profits have been made why don`t you suggest that he gives it a rest.[/p][/quote]There are 120 comments on here today and you must have made half of them. I repeat, give it a rest. goodbye.[/p][/quote]No made 1 comment How have venkys made a profit from BRFC still awaiting an answer fickle fan

8:43pm Fri 15 Jun 12

Dr Zinc says...

DaBoss wrote:
roverfor60years wrote:
I'm not going to further clog things up by showing the previous comments, but spot on, J.C-Rishton. Absolutely correct.
I wonder if Bank of India are concerned about a default on the debt, just as Barclays were? At the last count I believe our debt was over £26 million.
I don't remember ever saying we were financially sound, I said sustainable business which it is whatever your opinions may be.

As I've said before, those who live in the aconspiracy and we're all doomed world need to maybe come to terms with the fact that the club was sold out and is no longer your concern, cern, as it matters little to the owners whether you believe they are working in the interests of the club or not.

Regardless of the efforts made by BRSIT and others, it is extremely delusional to believe the fans can ever own or run the club, you've more chance of Venky's asking the fans for advice (again).

I have to wonder J C Rishton and all those that believe that the club is headed for destruction and that its all over, why are you still here? if you really believe that the club is a goner, surely you've better use of your time concentrating on a club/team that isnt mistreating the fans the way you lot keep going on about?

Unless you are really that deluded to believe that Venkys will eventually hand over the club to the fans or end up in administration to be bought back.. in which case even that was remotely possible, it would be years away.

There seems to be a last of the summer wine grump brigade on here that just loves to lament over and over again about how they are being mistreated as fans and how its all over for Rovers... and then you wonder why dingles love coming on here to have a pop at the easy targets.

Its like shooting chickens in a barrel.
DaBoss, you do appear to be very assured by Venkys business motives, so much so that you have burnley fans agreeing with you.

Venkys have so far, sold the majority of Blackburns 'prized assets'; their best players and replaced them with cheap inferior ones

They have sacked experienced backroom staff and simply not replaced them

Now, this may well be a business model based around economising
but who gives a rats arse !
This is a footall club that is being driven into the ground
by very successful business people whom you label 'ill-informed'

There is just as much an argument for some of the more outlandish theories on here as their is your argument full of woolly pseudo-intellect concerned only with enhancing your self esteem through some sort of one-up-manship
[quote][p][bold]DaBoss[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roverfor60years[/bold] wrote: I'm not going to further clog things up by showing the previous comments, but spot on, J.C-Rishton. Absolutely correct. I wonder if Bank of India are concerned about a default on the debt, just as Barclays were? At the last count I believe our debt was over £26 million.[/p][/quote]I don't remember ever saying we were financially sound, I said sustainable business which it is whatever your opinions may be. As I've said before, those who live in the aconspiracy and we're all doomed world need to maybe come to terms with the fact that the club was sold out and is no longer your concern, cern, as it matters little to the owners whether you believe they are working in the interests of the club or not. Regardless of the efforts made by BRSIT and others, it is extremely delusional to believe the fans can ever own or run the club, you've more chance of Venky's asking the fans for advice (again). I have to wonder J C Rishton and all those that believe that the club is headed for destruction and that its all over, why are you still here? if you really believe that the club is a goner, surely you've better use of your time concentrating on a club/team that isnt mistreating the fans the way you lot keep going on about? Unless you are really that deluded to believe that Venkys will eventually hand over the club to the fans or end up in administration to be bought back.. in which case even that was remotely possible, it would be years away. There seems to be a last of the summer wine grump brigade on here that just loves to lament over and over again about how they are being mistreated as fans and how its all over for Rovers... and then you wonder why dingles love coming on here to have a pop at the easy targets. Its like shooting chickens in a barrel.[/p][/quote]DaBoss, you do appear to be very assured by Venkys business motives, so much so that you have burnley fans agreeing with you. Venkys have so far, sold the majority of Blackburns 'prized assets'; their best players and replaced them with cheap inferior ones They have sacked experienced backroom staff and simply not replaced them Now, this may well be a business model based around economising but who gives a rats arse ! This is a footall club that is being driven into the ground by very successful business people whom you label 'ill-informed' There is just as much an argument for some of the more outlandish theories on here as their is your argument full of woolly pseudo-intellect concerned only with enhancing your self esteem through some sort of one-up-manship Dr Zinc

10:44pm Fri 15 Jun 12

ossyrover1 says...

fickle fan wrote:
roverfor60years wrote:
Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious
Which bit of what I have said is garbage.

please quote.!
also
roverfor60years wrote:
If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits

please describe what profit they have so far made from the club.
not just a random statement they have made profits.
also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC
are you agnew by any chance
[quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roverfor60years[/bold] wrote: Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious[/p][/quote]Which bit of what I have said is garbage. please quote.! also roverfor60years wrote: If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits please describe what profit they have so far made from the club. not just a random statement they have made profits. also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC[/p][/quote]are you agnew by any chance ossyrover1

11:02pm Fri 15 Jun 12

fickle fan says...

ossyrover1 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
roverfor60years wrote:
Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious
Which bit of what I have said is garbage.

please quote.!
also
roverfor60years wrote:
If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits

please describe what profit they have so far made from the club.
not just a random statement they have made profits.
also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC
are you agnew by any chance
are you agnew by any chance

rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit
[quote][p][bold]ossyrover1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roverfor60years[/bold] wrote: Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious[/p][/quote]Which bit of what I have said is garbage. please quote.! also roverfor60years wrote: If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits please describe what profit they have so far made from the club. not just a random statement they have made profits. also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC[/p][/quote]are you agnew by any chance[/p][/quote]are you agnew by any chance rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit fickle fan

11:30pm Fri 15 Jun 12

French Rover says...

Danny Murphy being linked with signing for us......? Does he belong to the infamous agency we all know and love so well..

at any other time I would say that he would be a fair signing...
Danny Murphy being linked with signing for us......? Does he belong to the infamous agency we all know and love so well.. at any other time I would say that he would be a fair signing... French Rover

11:57pm Fri 15 Jun 12

whittaker0 says...

Without being overly pessimistic about the prospects of the Rovers in the Championship, I think the club have little or no chance of being promotion contenders. The club is in turmoil with no one taking the lead and trying to get the club back on track. The Venkys are so destructive and adding to that obstinate. They are utterly hopeless when it comes to running a football club and almost beyond redemption. The club is utterly fractured with no hope of things improving. The Venkys should have dismissed Steve Kean and appointed someone such as Mick McCarthy and to even think about Colin Hendry as a coach with his problems is ridiculous. As for me I have just about reached the end of my tether and have to get used to the fact that my club will remain in the lower reaches of football for many a year with little or no prospect of improvement. The people of Blackburn deserve better.
Without being overly pessimistic about the prospects of the Rovers in the Championship, I think the club have little or no chance of being promotion contenders. The club is in turmoil with no one taking the lead and trying to get the club back on track. The Venkys are so destructive and adding to that obstinate. They are utterly hopeless when it comes to running a football club and almost beyond redemption. The club is utterly fractured with no hope of things improving. The Venkys should have dismissed Steve Kean and appointed someone such as Mick McCarthy and to even think about Colin Hendry as a coach with his problems is ridiculous. As for me I have just about reached the end of my tether and have to get used to the fact that my club will remain in the lower reaches of football for many a year with little or no prospect of improvement. The people of Blackburn deserve better. whittaker0

12:37am Sat 16 Jun 12

greenscreener says...

French Rover wrote:
Danny Murphy being linked with signing for us......? Does he belong to the infamous agency we all know and love so well.. at any other time I would say that he would be a fair signing...
That would be the same little git who moaned about our disciplinary record and how physical teams like Blackburn were bad for the game.

Probably is represented by our reserve defenders dad, using the media to influence public opinion is certainly his M.O.
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: Danny Murphy being linked with signing for us......? Does he belong to the infamous agency we all know and love so well.. at any other time I would say that he would be a fair signing...[/p][/quote]That would be the same little git who moaned about our disciplinary record and how physical teams like Blackburn were bad for the game. Probably is represented by our reserve defenders dad, using the media to influence public opinion is certainly his M.O. greenscreener

1:22am Sat 16 Jun 12

Wockneys says...

Dr Zinc wrote:
DaBoss wrote:
roverfor60years wrote:
I'm not going to further clog things up by showing the previous comments, but spot on, J.C-Rishton. Absolutely correct.
I wonder if Bank of India are concerned about a default on the debt, just as Barclays were? At the last count I believe our debt was over £26 million.
I don't remember ever saying we were financially sound, I said sustainable business which it is whatever your opinions may be.

As I've said before, those who live in the aconspiracy and we're all doomed world need to maybe come to terms with the fact that the club was sold out and is no longer your concern, cern, as it matters little to the owners whether you believe they are working in the interests of the club or not.

Regardless of the efforts made by BRSIT and others, it is extremely delusional to believe the fans can ever own or run the club, you've more chance of Venky's asking the fans for advice (again).

I have to wonder J C Rishton and all those that believe that the club is headed for destruction and that its all over, why are you still here? if you really believe that the club is a goner, surely you've better use of your time concentrating on a club/team that isnt mistreating the fans the way you lot keep going on about?

Unless you are really that deluded to believe that Venkys will eventually hand over the club to the fans or end up in administration to be bought back.. in which case even that was remotely possible, it would be years away.

There seems to be a last of the summer wine grump brigade on here that just loves to lament over and over again about how they are being mistreated as fans and how its all over for Rovers... and then you wonder why dingles love coming on here to have a pop at the easy targets.

Its like shooting chickens in a barrel.
DaBoss, you do appear to be very assured by Venkys business motives, so much so that you have burnley fans agreeing with you.

Venkys have so far, sold the majority of Blackburns 'prized assets'; their best players and replaced them with cheap inferior ones

They have sacked experienced backroom staff and simply not replaced them

Now, this may well be a business model based around economising
but who gives a rats arse !
This is a footall club that is being driven into the ground
by very successful business people whom you label 'ill-informed'

There is just as much an argument for some of the more outlandish theories on here as their is your argument full of woolly pseudo-intellect concerned only with enhancing your self esteem through some sort of one-up-manship
Completely agree with Dr.

There seems to be a strange passiveness with the way that 'DaBoss' sees events, and a bit of alarm at some of his mildy pro-Kean (or maybe not anti-Kean) comments that 99% of everyone else has.

Also, there are the double standards with which he criticizes those how are 'lamenting' Rover's decline, while he himself is lamenting the lamenters.

If we all offend you so much then go away.
[quote][p][bold]Dr Zinc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DaBoss[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roverfor60years[/bold] wrote: I'm not going to further clog things up by showing the previous comments, but spot on, J.C-Rishton. Absolutely correct. I wonder if Bank of India are concerned about a default on the debt, just as Barclays were? At the last count I believe our debt was over £26 million.[/p][/quote]I don't remember ever saying we were financially sound, I said sustainable business which it is whatever your opinions may be. As I've said before, those who live in the aconspiracy and we're all doomed world need to maybe come to terms with the fact that the club was sold out and is no longer your concern, cern, as it matters little to the owners whether you believe they are working in the interests of the club or not. Regardless of the efforts made by BRSIT and others, it is extremely delusional to believe the fans can ever own or run the club, you've more chance of Venky's asking the fans for advice (again). I have to wonder J C Rishton and all those that believe that the club is headed for destruction and that its all over, why are you still here? if you really believe that the club is a goner, surely you've better use of your time concentrating on a club/team that isnt mistreating the fans the way you lot keep going on about? Unless you are really that deluded to believe that Venkys will eventually hand over the club to the fans or end up in administration to be bought back.. in which case even that was remotely possible, it would be years away. There seems to be a last of the summer wine grump brigade on here that just loves to lament over and over again about how they are being mistreated as fans and how its all over for Rovers... and then you wonder why dingles love coming on here to have a pop at the easy targets. Its like shooting chickens in a barrel.[/p][/quote]DaBoss, you do appear to be very assured by Venkys business motives, so much so that you have burnley fans agreeing with you. Venkys have so far, sold the majority of Blackburns 'prized assets'; their best players and replaced them with cheap inferior ones They have sacked experienced backroom staff and simply not replaced them Now, this may well be a business model based around economising but who gives a rats arse ! This is a footall club that is being driven into the ground by very successful business people whom you label 'ill-informed' There is just as much an argument for some of the more outlandish theories on here as their is your argument full of woolly pseudo-intellect concerned only with enhancing your self esteem through some sort of one-up-manship[/p][/quote]Completely agree with Dr. There seems to be a strange passiveness with the way that 'DaBoss' sees events, and a bit of alarm at some of his mildy pro-Kean (or maybe not anti-Kean) comments that 99% of everyone else has. Also, there are the double standards with which he criticizes those how are 'lamenting' Rover's decline, while he himself is lamenting the lamenters. If we all offend you so much then go away. Wockneys

7:40am Sat 16 Jun 12

ossyrover1 says...

fickle fan wrote:
ossyrover1 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
roverfor60years wrote:
Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious
Which bit of what I have said is garbage.

please quote.!
also
roverfor60years wrote:
If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits

please describe what profit they have so far made from the club.
not just a random statement they have made profits.
also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC
are you agnew by any chance
are you agnew by any chance

rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit
whats silly about it. i asked you a question. i'll ask again are you agnew ?. and by the way i didnt say anything about venky's.
[quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ossyrover1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roverfor60years[/bold] wrote: Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious[/p][/quote]Which bit of what I have said is garbage. please quote.! also roverfor60years wrote: If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits please describe what profit they have so far made from the club. not just a random statement they have made profits. also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC[/p][/quote]are you agnew by any chance[/p][/quote]are you agnew by any chance rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit[/p][/quote]whats silly about it. i asked you a question. i'll ask again are you agnew ?. and by the way i didnt say anything about venky's. ossyrover1

7:54am Sat 16 Jun 12

fickle fan says...

ossyrover1 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
ossyrover1 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
roverfor60years wrote:
Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious
Which bit of what I have said is garbage.

please quote.!
also
roverfor60years wrote:
If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits

please describe what profit they have so far made from the club.
not just a random statement they have made profits.
also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC
are you agnew by any chance
are you agnew by any chance

rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit
whats silly about it. i asked you a question. i'll ask again are you agnew ?. and by the way i didnt say anything about venky's.
It is silly because rather than comment on the facts you somehow try to pretend that I must be connected people who are running the club.
I didn,t at any time suggest you said anything about the Venkys read my comment carefully I just asked a question, which still remains unanswered. So to repeat my post. "rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit"
[quote][p][bold]ossyrover1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ossyrover1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roverfor60years[/bold] wrote: Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious[/p][/quote]Which bit of what I have said is garbage. please quote.! also roverfor60years wrote: If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits please describe what profit they have so far made from the club. not just a random statement they have made profits. also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC[/p][/quote]are you agnew by any chance[/p][/quote]are you agnew by any chance rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit[/p][/quote]whats silly about it. i asked you a question. i'll ask again are you agnew ?. and by the way i didnt say anything about venky's.[/p][/quote]It is silly because rather than comment on the facts you somehow try to pretend that I must be connected people who are running the club. I didn,t at any time suggest you said anything about the Venkys read my comment carefully I just asked a question, which still remains unanswered. So to repeat my post. "rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit" fickle fan

10:38am Sat 16 Jun 12

samsno2millfan says...

fickle fan wrote:
ossyrover1 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
ossyrover1 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
roverfor60years wrote: Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious
Which bit of what I have said is garbage. please quote.! also roverfor60years wrote: If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits please describe what profit they have so far made from the club. not just a random statement they have made profits. also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC
are you agnew by any chance
are you agnew by any chance rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit
whats silly about it. i asked you a question. i'll ask again are you agnew ?. and by the way i didnt say anything about venky's.
It is silly because rather than comment on the facts you somehow try to pretend that I must be connected people who are running the club. I didn,t at any time suggest you said anything about the Venkys read my comment carefully I just asked a question, which still remains unanswered. So to repeat my post. "rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit"
This year's accounts will make interesting reading - not something you'd hear many football supporters saying.

The player sales and comparative lack of investment in replacements - Desperate was the only significant outlay -should have helped them break even this year at least.

The drastic cost cutting exercise throughout the season suggests they made a bigger **** up of it than in the first ten months of their tenure when losses increased by 900+% to almost £19m

I maintain they have suddenly realised this football lark is an expensive and non-profit making business. They are afraid, quite rightly, they could lose a shed load of money. The potential for this to spiral out of control has increased dramatically with relegation and a 60-70% drop in income.

Staying up on the cheap was never going to happen - they should have realised that after the narrow squeek with relegation the previous year. But did they? No. They were not prepared to throw what they would consider good money after bad in a high risk policy to maintain the PL income; especially when they still see the club losing money, even in the PL.

So, what do you do? If you're not prepared to speculate to accumulate, the only way forward is to reduce costs, chief amongst which is staff.

It's pretty obvious Paul Hunt was not sacked for "financial reasons" as was claimed, more in a fit of pique following his damning letter, but it was a handy bonus.

Saying they want to keep the squad together is the equivalent to a marketing ploy. They will welcome
the reductions in the wage bill from the highest earning players jumping ship. They can always stand by their claim whilst blaming it on the player(s) insisting they play at the highest level or it being pointless keeping an unhappy player; the usual garbage.

I can't see the logic in the accusation they are in it to run off with the parachute payments. How does reducing the possible amount to run off with by 60-70% - that's 60-70% of a far greater amount with the new TV deal - constitute being a good idea?

They are just trying to avoid losing money. The total ineptitude they have shown has resulted in them having more reason to be worried - or "confused" as they would call it.

The figures would appear to be suggesting the losses have not decreased and the fire sale, combined with the culling of the staff, is well under way.

It is amazing they have presided over an unmittigated disaster using this corner shop, fingers crossed policy only to maintain and expand on it.

Shebby Singh for god's sake, Hendry if he turns up - legend whilst a player he may be but there are too many reasons not to sign him - principally football but plenty of baggage as well, Agnew of course, 7th Dan as ground manager and a cut price secretary, no doubt.

I fancy those hoping we get out of the Championship may have their wish granted.
[quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ossyrover1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ossyrover1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roverfor60years[/bold] wrote: Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious[/p][/quote]Which bit of what I have said is garbage. please quote.! also roverfor60years wrote: If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits please describe what profit they have so far made from the club. not just a random statement they have made profits. also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC[/p][/quote]are you agnew by any chance[/p][/quote]are you agnew by any chance rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit[/p][/quote]whats silly about it. i asked you a question. i'll ask again are you agnew ?. and by the way i didnt say anything about venky's.[/p][/quote]It is silly because rather than comment on the facts you somehow try to pretend that I must be connected people who are running the club. I didn,t at any time suggest you said anything about the Venkys read my comment carefully I just asked a question, which still remains unanswered. So to repeat my post. "rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit"[/p][/quote]This year's accounts will make interesting reading - not something you'd hear many football supporters saying. The player sales and comparative lack of investment in replacements - Desperate was the only significant outlay -should have helped them break even this year at least. The drastic cost cutting exercise throughout the season suggests they made a bigger **** up of it than in the first ten months of their tenure when losses increased by 900+% to almost £19m I maintain they have suddenly realised this football lark is an expensive and non-profit making business. They are afraid, quite rightly, they could lose a shed load of money. The potential for this to spiral out of control has increased dramatically with relegation and a 60-70% drop in income. Staying up on the cheap was never going to happen - they should have realised that after the narrow squeek with relegation the previous year. But did they? No. They were not prepared to throw what they would consider good money after bad in a high risk policy to maintain the PL income; especially when they still see the club losing money, even in the PL. So, what do you do? If you're not prepared to speculate to accumulate, the only way forward is to reduce costs, chief amongst which is staff. It's pretty obvious Paul Hunt was not sacked for "financial reasons" as was claimed, more in a fit of pique following his damning letter, but it was a handy bonus. Saying they want to keep the squad together is the equivalent to a marketing ploy. They will welcome the reductions in the wage bill from the highest earning players jumping ship. They can always stand by their claim whilst blaming it on the player(s) insisting they play at the highest level or it being pointless keeping an unhappy player; the usual garbage. I can't see the logic in the accusation they are in it to run off with the parachute payments. How does reducing the possible amount to run off with by 60-70% - that's 60-70% of a far greater amount with the new TV deal - constitute being a good idea? They are just trying to avoid losing money. The total ineptitude they have shown has resulted in them having more reason to be worried - or "confused" as they would call it. The figures would appear to be suggesting the losses have not decreased and the fire sale, combined with the culling of the staff, is well under way. It is amazing they have presided over an unmittigated disaster using this corner shop, fingers crossed policy only to maintain and expand on it. Shebby Singh for god's sake, Hendry if he turns up - legend whilst a player he may be but there are too many reasons not to sign him - principally football but plenty of baggage as well, Agnew of course, 7th Dan as ground manager and a cut price secretary, no doubt. I fancy those hoping we get out of the Championship may have their wish granted. samsno2millfan

10:43am Sat 16 Jun 12

ossyrover1 says...

fickle fan wrote:
ossyrover1 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
ossyrover1 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
roverfor60years wrote:
Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious
Which bit of what I have said is garbage.

please quote.!
also
roverfor60years wrote:
If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits

please describe what profit they have so far made from the club.
not just a random statement they have made profits.
also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC
are you agnew by any chance
are you agnew by any chance

rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit
whats silly about it. i asked you a question. i'll ask again are you agnew ?. and by the way i didnt say anything about venky's.
It is silly because rather than comment on the facts you somehow try to pretend that I must be connected people who are running the club.
I didn,t at any time suggest you said anything about the Venkys read my comment carefully I just asked a question, which still remains unanswered. So to repeat my post. "rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit"
if you say i didnt say anything about venky's why should i explain how they made a profit, if they did, i dont know. i just think you are a new poster trying to wind up rovers fans hence the agnew remark. your questions have probably been answered countless times over the last few months if you can be bothered to check old stories.
[quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ossyrover1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ossyrover1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roverfor60years[/bold] wrote: Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious[/p][/quote]Which bit of what I have said is garbage. please quote.! also roverfor60years wrote: If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits please describe what profit they have so far made from the club. not just a random statement they have made profits. also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC[/p][/quote]are you agnew by any chance[/p][/quote]are you agnew by any chance rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit[/p][/quote]whats silly about it. i asked you a question. i'll ask again are you agnew ?. and by the way i didnt say anything about venky's.[/p][/quote]It is silly because rather than comment on the facts you somehow try to pretend that I must be connected people who are running the club. I didn,t at any time suggest you said anything about the Venkys read my comment carefully I just asked a question, which still remains unanswered. So to repeat my post. "rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit"[/p][/quote]if you say i didnt say anything about venky's why should i explain how they made a profit, if they did, i dont know. i just think you are a new poster trying to wind up rovers fans hence the agnew remark. your questions have probably been answered countless times over the last few months if you can be bothered to check old stories. ossyrover1

11:06am Sat 16 Jun 12

Harwoodstblue says...

ossyrover1 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
ossyrover1 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
ossyrover1 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
roverfor60years wrote:
Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious
Which bit of what I have said is garbage.

please quote.!
also
roverfor60years wrote:
If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits

please describe what profit they have so far made from the club.
not just a random statement they have made profits.
also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC
are you agnew by any chance
are you agnew by any chance

rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit
whats silly about it. i asked you a question. i'll ask again are you agnew ?. and by the way i didnt say anything about venky's.
It is silly because rather than comment on the facts you somehow try to pretend that I must be connected people who are running the club.
I didn,t at any time suggest you said anything about the Venkys read my comment carefully I just asked a question, which still remains unanswered. So to repeat my post. "rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit"
if you say i didnt say anything about venky's why should i explain how they made a profit, if they did, i dont know. i just think you are a new poster trying to wind up rovers fans hence the agnew remark. your questions have probably been answered countless times over the last few months if you can be bothered to check old stories.
FF was on here all yesterday and was just after an argument with anyone who would take he/her on.....Ignore.
[quote][p][bold]ossyrover1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ossyrover1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ossyrover1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roverfor60years[/bold] wrote: Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious[/p][/quote]Which bit of what I have said is garbage. please quote.! also roverfor60years wrote: If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits please describe what profit they have so far made from the club. not just a random statement they have made profits. also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC[/p][/quote]are you agnew by any chance[/p][/quote]are you agnew by any chance rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit[/p][/quote]whats silly about it. i asked you a question. i'll ask again are you agnew ?. and by the way i didnt say anything about venky's.[/p][/quote]It is silly because rather than comment on the facts you somehow try to pretend that I must be connected people who are running the club. I didn,t at any time suggest you said anything about the Venkys read my comment carefully I just asked a question, which still remains unanswered. So to repeat my post. "rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit"[/p][/quote]if you say i didnt say anything about venky's why should i explain how they made a profit, if they did, i dont know. i just think you are a new poster trying to wind up rovers fans hence the agnew remark. your questions have probably been answered countless times over the last few months if you can be bothered to check old stories.[/p][/quote]FF was on here all yesterday and was just after an argument with anyone who would take he/her on.....Ignore. Harwoodstblue

11:20am Sat 16 Jun 12

fickle fan says...

Not after an argument, but it would appear that when you can`t answer an easy question you become very dismissive. Perhaps you don`t like or can`t accept what the answer to the point I raised was.
It would be easy to answer so rather than not allow someone to have an opinion which may differ from yours just have a look at the point I raised about how Venkys have made profit from their time at BFRC
Not after an argument, but it would appear that when you can`t answer an easy question you become very dismissive. Perhaps you don`t like or can`t accept what the answer to the point I raised was. It would be easy to answer so rather than not allow someone to have an opinion which may differ from yours just have a look at the point I raised about how Venkys have made profit from their time at BFRC fickle fan

11:27am Sat 16 Jun 12

fickle fan says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
ossyrover1 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
ossyrover1 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
ossyrover1 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
roverfor60years wrote:
Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious
Which bit of what I have said is garbage.

please quote.!
also
roverfor60years wrote:
If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits

please describe what profit they have so far made from the club.
not just a random statement they have made profits.
also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC
are you agnew by any chance
are you agnew by any chance

rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit
whats silly about it. i asked you a question. i'll ask again are you agnew ?. and by the way i didnt say anything about venky's.
It is silly because rather than comment on the facts you somehow try to pretend that I must be connected people who are running the club.
I didn,t at any time suggest you said anything about the Venkys read my comment carefully I just asked a question, which still remains unanswered. So to repeat my post. "rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit"
if you say i didnt say anything about venky's why should i explain how they made a profit, if they did, i dont know. i just think you are a new poster trying to wind up rovers fans hence the agnew remark. your questions have probably been answered countless times over the last few months if you can be bothered to check old stories.
FF was on here all yesterday and was just after an argument with anyone who would take he/her on.....Ignore.
Not after an argument, but it would appear that when you can`t answer an easy question you become very dismissive. Perhaps you don`t like or can`t accept what the answer to the point I raised was.
It would be easy to answer so rather than not allow someone to have an opinion which may differ from yours just have a look at the point I raised about how Venkys have made profit from their time at BFRC and rather than suggesting "ignore" give me a sensible answer.
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ossyrover1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ossyrover1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ossyrover1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roverfor60years[/bold] wrote: Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious[/p][/quote]Which bit of what I have said is garbage. please quote.! also roverfor60years wrote: If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits please describe what profit they have so far made from the club. not just a random statement they have made profits. also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC[/p][/quote]are you agnew by any chance[/p][/quote]are you agnew by any chance rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit[/p][/quote]whats silly about it. i asked you a question. i'll ask again are you agnew ?. and by the way i didnt say anything about venky's.[/p][/quote]It is silly because rather than comment on the facts you somehow try to pretend that I must be connected people who are running the club. I didn,t at any time suggest you said anything about the Venkys read my comment carefully I just asked a question, which still remains unanswered. So to repeat my post. "rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit"[/p][/quote]if you say i didnt say anything about venky's why should i explain how they made a profit, if they did, i dont know. i just think you are a new poster trying to wind up rovers fans hence the agnew remark. your questions have probably been answered countless times over the last few months if you can be bothered to check old stories.[/p][/quote]FF was on here all yesterday and was just after an argument with anyone who would take he/her on.....Ignore.[/p][/quote]Not after an argument, but it would appear that when you can`t answer an easy question you become very dismissive. Perhaps you don`t like or can`t accept what the answer to the point I raised was. It would be easy to answer so rather than not allow someone to have an opinion which may differ from yours just have a look at the point I raised about how Venkys have made profit from their time at BFRC and rather than suggesting "ignore" give me a sensible answer. fickle fan

12:35pm Sat 16 Jun 12

fickle fan says...

samsno2millfan wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
ossyrover1 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
ossyrover1 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
roverfor60years wrote: Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious
Which bit of what I have said is garbage. please quote.! also roverfor60years wrote: If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits please describe what profit they have so far made from the club. not just a random statement they have made profits. also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC
are you agnew by any chance
are you agnew by any chance rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit
whats silly about it. i asked you a question. i'll ask again are you agnew ?. and by the way i didnt say anything about venky's.
It is silly because rather than comment on the facts you somehow try to pretend that I must be connected people who are running the club. I didn,t at any time suggest you said anything about the Venkys read my comment carefully I just asked a question, which still remains unanswered. So to repeat my post. "rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit"
This year's accounts will make interesting reading - not something you'd hear many football supporters saying.

The player sales and comparative lack of investment in replacements - Desperate was the only significant outlay -should have helped them break even this year at least.

The drastic cost cutting exercise throughout the season suggests they made a bigger **** up of it than in the first ten months of their tenure when losses increased by 900+% to almost £19m

I maintain they have suddenly realised this football lark is an expensive and non-profit making business. They are afraid, quite rightly, they could lose a shed load of money. The potential for this to spiral out of control has increased dramatically with relegation and a 60-70% drop in income.

Staying up on the cheap was never going to happen - they should have realised that after the narrow squeek with relegation the previous year. But did they? No. They were not prepared to throw what they would consider good money after bad in a high risk policy to maintain the PL income; especially when they still see the club losing money, even in the PL.

So, what do you do? If you're not prepared to speculate to accumulate, the only way forward is to reduce costs, chief amongst which is staff.

It's pretty obvious Paul Hunt was not sacked for "financial reasons" as was claimed, more in a fit of pique following his damning letter, but it was a handy bonus.

Saying they want to keep the squad together is the equivalent to a marketing ploy. They will welcome
the reductions in the wage bill from the highest earning players jumping ship. They can always stand by their claim whilst blaming it on the player(s) insisting they play at the highest level or it being pointless keeping an unhappy player; the usual garbage.

I can't see the logic in the accusation they are in it to run off with the parachute payments. How does reducing the possible amount to run off with by 60-70% - that's 60-70% of a far greater amount with the new TV deal - constitute being a good idea?

They are just trying to avoid losing money. The total ineptitude they have shown has resulted in them having more reason to be worried - or "confused" as they would call it.

The figures would appear to be suggesting the losses have not decreased and the fire sale, combined with the culling of the staff, is well under way.

It is amazing they have presided over an unmittigated disaster using this corner shop, fingers crossed policy only to maintain and expand on it.

Shebby Singh for god's sake, Hendry if he turns up - legend whilst a player he may be but there are too many reasons not to sign him - principally football but plenty of baggage as well, Agnew of course, 7th Dan as ground manager and a cut price secretary, no doubt.

I fancy those hoping we get out of the Championship may have their wish granted.
Whilst the accounts may or may not show as you suggest a break even, it would be still be long way from showing profits when you take into consideration the capital outlay on purchasing the club which had an outstanding liability of the overdraft.
To realize a profit , the club would have to be sold at a price that would exceed outlay + ongoing p&l or take money out of the club on an annual basis similar to what has happened at Blackpool, as over 20m was re invested in new players and action appears to have been taken to service the overdraft it is hard to see how any profit on investment has been made.
[quote][p][bold]samsno2millfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ossyrover1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ossyrover1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roverfor60years[/bold] wrote: Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious[/p][/quote]Which bit of what I have said is garbage. please quote.! also roverfor60years wrote: If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits please describe what profit they have so far made from the club. not just a random statement they have made profits. also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC[/p][/quote]are you agnew by any chance[/p][/quote]are you agnew by any chance rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit[/p][/quote]whats silly about it. i asked you a question. i'll ask again are you agnew ?. and by the way i didnt say anything about venky's.[/p][/quote]It is silly because rather than comment on the facts you somehow try to pretend that I must be connected people who are running the club. I didn,t at any time suggest you said anything about the Venkys read my comment carefully I just asked a question, which still remains unanswered. So to repeat my post. "rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit"[/p][/quote]This year's accounts will make interesting reading - not something you'd hear many football supporters saying. The player sales and comparative lack of investment in replacements - Desperate was the only significant outlay -should have helped them break even this year at least. The drastic cost cutting exercise throughout the season suggests they made a bigger **** up of it than in the first ten months of their tenure when losses increased by 900+% to almost £19m I maintain they have suddenly realised this football lark is an expensive and non-profit making business. They are afraid, quite rightly, they could lose a shed load of money. The potential for this to spiral out of control has increased dramatically with relegation and a 60-70% drop in income. Staying up on the cheap was never going to happen - they should have realised that after the narrow squeek with relegation the previous year. But did they? No. They were not prepared to throw what they would consider good money after bad in a high risk policy to maintain the PL income; especially when they still see the club losing money, even in the PL. So, what do you do? If you're not prepared to speculate to accumulate, the only way forward is to reduce costs, chief amongst which is staff. It's pretty obvious Paul Hunt was not sacked for "financial reasons" as was claimed, more in a fit of pique following his damning letter, but it was a handy bonus. Saying they want to keep the squad together is the equivalent to a marketing ploy. They will welcome the reductions in the wage bill from the highest earning players jumping ship. They can always stand by their claim whilst blaming it on the player(s) insisting they play at the highest level or it being pointless keeping an unhappy player; the usual garbage. I can't see the logic in the accusation they are in it to run off with the parachute payments. How does reducing the possible amount to run off with by 60-70% - that's 60-70% of a far greater amount with the new TV deal - constitute being a good idea? They are just trying to avoid losing money. The total ineptitude they have shown has resulted in them having more reason to be worried - or "confused" as they would call it. The figures would appear to be suggesting the losses have not decreased and the fire sale, combined with the culling of the staff, is well under way. It is amazing they have presided over an unmittigated disaster using this corner shop, fingers crossed policy only to maintain and expand on it. Shebby Singh for god's sake, Hendry if he turns up - legend whilst a player he may be but there are too many reasons not to sign him - principally football but plenty of baggage as well, Agnew of course, 7th Dan as ground manager and a cut price secretary, no doubt. I fancy those hoping we get out of the Championship may have their wish granted.[/p][/quote]Whilst the accounts may or may not show as you suggest a break even, it would be still be long way from showing profits when you take into consideration the capital outlay on purchasing the club which had an outstanding liability of the overdraft. To realize a profit , the club would have to be sold at a price that would exceed outlay + ongoing p&l or take money out of the club on an annual basis similar to what has happened at Blackpool, as over 20m was re invested in new players and action appears to have been taken to service the overdraft it is hard to see how any profit on investment has been made. fickle fan

1:07pm Sat 16 Jun 12

fickle fan says...

ossyrover1 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
ossyrover1 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
ossyrover1 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
roverfor60years wrote:
Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious
Which bit of what I have said is garbage.

please quote.!
also
roverfor60years wrote:
If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits

please describe what profit they have so far made from the club.
not just a random statement they have made profits.
also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC
are you agnew by any chance
are you agnew by any chance

rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit
whats silly about it. i asked you a question. i'll ask again are you agnew ?. and by the way i didnt say anything about venky's.
It is silly because rather than comment on the facts you somehow try to pretend that I must be connected people who are running the club.
I didn,t at any time suggest you said anything about the Venkys read my comment carefully I just asked a question, which still remains unanswered. So to repeat my post. "rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit"
if you say i didnt say anything about venky's why should i explain how they made a profit, if they did, i dont know. i just think you are a new poster trying to wind up rovers fans hence the agnew remark. your questions have probably been answered countless times over the last few months if you can be bothered to check old stories.
what on earth are you on about,
to make it easy for you find me one of those old stories which show how Venkys have made a profit .

and please explain the relevance of me being a new or old poster,

and explain why asking on a forum if Venkys have made a profit is winding up Rovers fans

or just tell me yourself how they have made a profit because it would seem that you are the one who jumped onto the conversation but doesn`t seem to want to contribute to the topic being discussed
[quote][p][bold]ossyrover1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ossyrover1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ossyrover1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roverfor60years[/bold] wrote: Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious[/p][/quote]Which bit of what I have said is garbage. please quote.! also roverfor60years wrote: If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits please describe what profit they have so far made from the club. not just a random statement they have made profits. also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC[/p][/quote]are you agnew by any chance[/p][/quote]are you agnew by any chance rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit[/p][/quote]whats silly about it. i asked you a question. i'll ask again are you agnew ?. and by the way i didnt say anything about venky's.[/p][/quote]It is silly because rather than comment on the facts you somehow try to pretend that I must be connected people who are running the club. I didn,t at any time suggest you said anything about the Venkys read my comment carefully I just asked a question, which still remains unanswered. So to repeat my post. "rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit"[/p][/quote]if you say i didnt say anything about venky's why should i explain how they made a profit, if they did, i dont know. i just think you are a new poster trying to wind up rovers fans hence the agnew remark. your questions have probably been answered countless times over the last few months if you can be bothered to check old stories.[/p][/quote]what on earth are you on about, to make it easy for you find me one of those old stories which show how Venkys have made a profit . and please explain the relevance of me being a new or old poster, and explain why asking on a forum if Venkys have made a profit is winding up Rovers fans or just tell me yourself how they have made a profit because it would seem that you are the one who jumped onto the conversation but doesn`t seem to want to contribute to the topic being discussed fickle fan

3:36pm Sat 16 Jun 12

samsno2millfan says...

fickle fan wrote:
samsno2millfan wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
ossyrover1 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
ossyrover1 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
roverfor60years wrote: Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious
Which bit of what I have said is garbage. please quote.! also roverfor60years wrote: If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits please describe what profit they have so far made from the club. not just a random statement they have made profits. also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC
are you agnew by any chance
are you agnew by any chance rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit
whats silly about it. i asked you a question. i'll ask again are you agnew ?. and by the way i didnt say anything about venky's.
It is silly because rather than comment on the facts you somehow try to pretend that I must be connected people who are running the club. I didn,t at any time suggest you said anything about the Venkys read my comment carefully I just asked a question, which still remains unanswered. So to repeat my post. "rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit"
This year's accounts will make interesting reading - not something you'd hear many football supporters saying. The player sales and comparative lack of investment in replacements - Desperate was the only significant outlay -should have helped them break even this year at least. The drastic cost cutting exercise throughout the season suggests they made a bigger **** up of it than in the first ten months of their tenure when losses increased by 900+% to almost £19m I maintain they have suddenly realised this football lark is an expensive and non-profit making business. They are afraid, quite rightly, they could lose a shed load of money. The potential for this to spiral out of control has increased dramatically with relegation and a 60-70% drop in income. Staying up on the cheap was never going to happen - they should have realised that after the narrow squeek with relegation the previous year. But did they? No. They were not prepared to throw what they would consider good money after bad in a high risk policy to maintain the PL income; especially when they still see the club losing money, even in the PL. So, what do you do? If you're not prepared to speculate to accumulate, the only way forward is to reduce costs, chief amongst which is staff. It's pretty obvious Paul Hunt was not sacked for "financial reasons" as was claimed, more in a fit of pique following his damning letter, but it was a handy bonus. Saying they want to keep the squad together is the equivalent to a marketing ploy. They will welcome the reductions in the wage bill from the highest earning players jumping ship. They can always stand by their claim whilst blaming it on the player(s) insisting they play at the highest level or it being pointless keeping an unhappy player; the usual garbage. I can't see the logic in the accusation they are in it to run off with the parachute payments. How does reducing the possible amount to run off with by 60-70% - that's 60-70% of a far greater amount with the new TV deal - constitute being a good idea? They are just trying to avoid losing money. The total ineptitude they have shown has resulted in them having more reason to be worried - or "confused" as they would call it. The figures would appear to be suggesting the losses have not decreased and the fire sale, combined with the culling of the staff, is well under way. It is amazing they have presided over an unmittigated disaster using this corner shop, fingers crossed policy only to maintain and expand on it. Shebby Singh for god's sake, Hendry if he turns up - legend whilst a player he may be but there are too many reasons not to sign him - principally football but plenty of baggage as well, Agnew of course, 7th Dan as ground manager and a cut price secretary, no doubt. I fancy those hoping we get out of the Championship may have their wish granted.
Whilst the accounts may or may not show as you suggest a break even, it would be still be long way from showing profits when you take into consideration the capital outlay on purchasing the club which had an outstanding liability of the overdraft. To realize a profit , the club would have to be sold at a price that would exceed outlay + ongoing p&l or take money out of the club on an annual basis similar to what has happened at Blackpool, as over 20m was re invested in new players and action appears to have been taken to service the overdraft it is hard to see how any profit on investment has been made.
I think that's what I was saying; despite their policies, the books will NOT show a profit - quite the opposite.

They have realised that and are cutting any cost possible.

Making a profit is not their priority; it would be totally unrealistic, even they will know that by now. The are concentrating on minimising losses.
[quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]samsno2millfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ossyrover1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ossyrover1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roverfor60years[/bold] wrote: Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious[/p][/quote]Which bit of what I have said is garbage. please quote.! also roverfor60years wrote: If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits please describe what profit they have so far made from the club. not just a random statement they have made profits. also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC[/p][/quote]are you agnew by any chance[/p][/quote]are you agnew by any chance rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit[/p][/quote]whats silly about it. i asked you a question. i'll ask again are you agnew ?. and by the way i didnt say anything about venky's.[/p][/quote]It is silly because rather than comment on the facts you somehow try to pretend that I must be connected people who are running the club. I didn,t at any time suggest you said anything about the Venkys read my comment carefully I just asked a question, which still remains unanswered. So to repeat my post. "rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit"[/p][/quote]This year's accounts will make interesting reading - not something you'd hear many football supporters saying. The player sales and comparative lack of investment in replacements - Desperate was the only significant outlay -should have helped them break even this year at least. The drastic cost cutting exercise throughout the season suggests they made a bigger **** up of it than in the first ten months of their tenure when losses increased by 900+% to almost £19m I maintain they have suddenly realised this football lark is an expensive and non-profit making business. They are afraid, quite rightly, they could lose a shed load of money. The potential for this to spiral out of control has increased dramatically with relegation and a 60-70% drop in income. Staying up on the cheap was never going to happen - they should have realised that after the narrow squeek with relegation the previous year. But did they? No. They were not prepared to throw what they would consider good money after bad in a high risk policy to maintain the PL income; especially when they still see the club losing money, even in the PL. So, what do you do? If you're not prepared to speculate to accumulate, the only way forward is to reduce costs, chief amongst which is staff. It's pretty obvious Paul Hunt was not sacked for "financial reasons" as was claimed, more in a fit of pique following his damning letter, but it was a handy bonus. Saying they want to keep the squad together is the equivalent to a marketing ploy. They will welcome the reductions in the wage bill from the highest earning players jumping ship. They can always stand by their claim whilst blaming it on the player(s) insisting they play at the highest level or it being pointless keeping an unhappy player; the usual garbage. I can't see the logic in the accusation they are in it to run off with the parachute payments. How does reducing the possible amount to run off with by 60-70% - that's 60-70% of a far greater amount with the new TV deal - constitute being a good idea? They are just trying to avoid losing money. The total ineptitude they have shown has resulted in them having more reason to be worried - or "confused" as they would call it. The figures would appear to be suggesting the losses have not decreased and the fire sale, combined with the culling of the staff, is well under way. It is amazing they have presided over an unmittigated disaster using this corner shop, fingers crossed policy only to maintain and expand on it. Shebby Singh for god's sake, Hendry if he turns up - legend whilst a player he may be but there are too many reasons not to sign him - principally football but plenty of baggage as well, Agnew of course, 7th Dan as ground manager and a cut price secretary, no doubt. I fancy those hoping we get out of the Championship may have their wish granted.[/p][/quote]Whilst the accounts may or may not show as you suggest a break even, it would be still be long way from showing profits when you take into consideration the capital outlay on purchasing the club which had an outstanding liability of the overdraft. To realize a profit , the club would have to be sold at a price that would exceed outlay + ongoing p&l or take money out of the club on an annual basis similar to what has happened at Blackpool, as over 20m was re invested in new players and action appears to have been taken to service the overdraft it is hard to see how any profit on investment has been made.[/p][/quote]I think that's what I was saying; despite their policies, the books will NOT show a profit - quite the opposite. They have realised that and are cutting any cost possible. Making a profit is not their priority; it would be totally unrealistic, even they will know that by now. The are concentrating on minimising losses. samsno2millfan

4:13pm Sat 16 Jun 12

fickle fan says...

samsno2millfan wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
samsno2millfan wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
ossyrover1 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
ossyrover1 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
roverfor60years wrote: Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious
Which bit of what I have said is garbage. please quote.! also roverfor60years wrote: If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits please describe what profit they have so far made from the club. not just a random statement they have made profits. also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC
are you agnew by any chance
are you agnew by any chance rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit
whats silly about it. i asked you a question. i'll ask again are you agnew ?. and by the way i didnt say anything about venky's.
It is silly because rather than comment on the facts you somehow try to pretend that I must be connected people who are running the club. I didn,t at any time suggest you said anything about the Venkys read my comment carefully I just asked a question, which still remains unanswered. So to repeat my post. "rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit"
This year's accounts will make interesting reading - not something you'd hear many football supporters saying. The player sales and comparative lack of investment in replacements - Desperate was the only significant outlay -should have helped them break even this year at least. The drastic cost cutting exercise throughout the season suggests they made a bigger **** up of it than in the first ten months of their tenure when losses increased by 900+% to almost £19m I maintain they have suddenly realised this football lark is an expensive and non-profit making business. They are afraid, quite rightly, they could lose a shed load of money. The potential for this to spiral out of control has increased dramatically with relegation and a 60-70% drop in income. Staying up on the cheap was never going to happen - they should have realised that after the narrow squeek with relegation the previous year. But did they? No. They were not prepared to throw what they would consider good money after bad in a high risk policy to maintain the PL income; especially when they still see the club losing money, even in the PL. So, what do you do? If you're not prepared to speculate to accumulate, the only way forward is to reduce costs, chief amongst which is staff. It's pretty obvious Paul Hunt was not sacked for "financial reasons" as was claimed, more in a fit of pique following his damning letter, but it was a handy bonus. Saying they want to keep the squad together is the equivalent to a marketing ploy. They will welcome the reductions in the wage bill from the highest earning players jumping ship. They can always stand by their claim whilst blaming it on the player(s) insisting they play at the highest level or it being pointless keeping an unhappy player; the usual garbage. I can't see the logic in the accusation they are in it to run off with the parachute payments. How does reducing the possible amount to run off with by 60-70% - that's 60-70% of a far greater amount with the new TV deal - constitute being a good idea? They are just trying to avoid losing money. The total ineptitude they have shown has resulted in them having more reason to be worried - or "confused" as they would call it. The figures would appear to be suggesting the losses have not decreased and the fire sale, combined with the culling of the staff, is well under way. It is amazing they have presided over an unmittigated disaster using this corner shop, fingers crossed policy only to maintain and expand on it. Shebby Singh for god's sake, Hendry if he turns up - legend whilst a player he may be but there are too many reasons not to sign him - principally football but plenty of baggage as well, Agnew of course, 7th Dan as ground manager and a cut price secretary, no doubt. I fancy those hoping we get out of the Championship may have their wish granted.
Whilst the accounts may or may not show as you suggest a break even, it would be still be long way from showing profits when you take into consideration the capital outlay on purchasing the club which had an outstanding liability of the overdraft. To realize a profit , the club would have to be sold at a price that would exceed outlay + ongoing p&l or take money out of the club on an annual basis similar to what has happened at Blackpool, as over 20m was re invested in new players and action appears to have been taken to service the overdraft it is hard to see how any profit on investment has been made.
I think that's what I was saying; despite their policies, the books will NOT show a profit - quite the opposite.

They have realised that and are cutting any cost possible.

Making a profit is not their priority; it would be totally unrealistic, even they will know that by now. The are concentrating on minimising losses.
How would at any time from when Venkys looked at buying the club would it have been realistic to achieve a profit in the short term,
Due diligence would have been carried out but nobody can give a value of a player an rely on the valuation to achieve profit. Players values continually change 3 in mind at rovers over the period of the sale are Junior, grella & jones
Junior wasnt in the team and looked to be on his way out even over the last year a value cannot be put on him because of his contract. Grella was in training at times so his value could only be judged if he had played, and jones despite having a get out clause would only be worth what sum one was prepared to pay, he also picked up a long term injury.
My point to all this is whilst there is ongoing claims of they have made profits or the only thing they came to do is make a fast buck I can`t see or haven`t seen a realistic suggestion on how with the money needed to invest in a club could give them profits.
Another point to look at when somebody buys a football club is that the money they use could have been invested elsewhere where returns are safe so when you add what they have spent at BRFC they will probably loose 3 to 4m pa on the money tied up so if they own the club for 3 years that loss would have to be recouped before they have a profit,
It was well documented that it took some time to find a buyer for the Walker trust , so I am very interested in how a profit is possible
[quote][p][bold]samsno2millfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]samsno2millfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ossyrover1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ossyrover1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roverfor60years[/bold] wrote: Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious[/p][/quote]Which bit of what I have said is garbage. please quote.! also roverfor60years wrote: If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits please describe what profit they have so far made from the club. not just a random statement they have made profits. also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC[/p][/quote]are you agnew by any chance[/p][/quote]are you agnew by any chance rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit[/p][/quote]whats silly about it. i asked you a question. i'll ask again are you agnew ?. and by the way i didnt say anything about venky's.[/p][/quote]It is silly because rather than comment on the facts you somehow try to pretend that I must be connected people who are running the club. I didn,t at any time suggest you said anything about the Venkys read my comment carefully I just asked a question, which still remains unanswered. So to repeat my post. "rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit"[/p][/quote]This year's accounts will make interesting reading - not something you'd hear many football supporters saying. The player sales and comparative lack of investment in replacements - Desperate was the only significant outlay -should have helped them break even this year at least. The drastic cost cutting exercise throughout the season suggests they made a bigger **** up of it than in the first ten months of their tenure when losses increased by 900+% to almost £19m I maintain they have suddenly realised this football lark is an expensive and non-profit making business. They are afraid, quite rightly, they could lose a shed load of money. The potential for this to spiral out of control has increased dramatically with relegation and a 60-70% drop in income. Staying up on the cheap was never going to happen - they should have realised that after the narrow squeek with relegation the previous year. But did they? No. They were not prepared to throw what they would consider good money after bad in a high risk policy to maintain the PL income; especially when they still see the club losing money, even in the PL. So, what do you do? If you're not prepared to speculate to accumulate, the only way forward is to reduce costs, chief amongst which is staff. It's pretty obvious Paul Hunt was not sacked for "financial reasons" as was claimed, more in a fit of pique following his damning letter, but it was a handy bonus. Saying they want to keep the squad together is the equivalent to a marketing ploy. They will welcome the reductions in the wage bill from the highest earning players jumping ship. They can always stand by their claim whilst blaming it on the player(s) insisting they play at the highest level or it being pointless keeping an unhappy player; the usual garbage. I can't see the logic in the accusation they are in it to run off with the parachute payments. How does reducing the possible amount to run off with by 60-70% - that's 60-70% of a far greater amount with the new TV deal - constitute being a good idea? They are just trying to avoid losing money. The total ineptitude they have shown has resulted in them having more reason to be worried - or "confused" as they would call it. The figures would appear to be suggesting the losses have not decreased and the fire sale, combined with the culling of the staff, is well under way. It is amazing they have presided over an unmittigated disaster using this corner shop, fingers crossed policy only to maintain and expand on it. Shebby Singh for god's sake, Hendry if he turns up - legend whilst a player he may be but there are too many reasons not to sign him - principally football but plenty of baggage as well, Agnew of course, 7th Dan as ground manager and a cut price secretary, no doubt. I fancy those hoping we get out of the Championship may have their wish granted.[/p][/quote]Whilst the accounts may or may not show as you suggest a break even, it would be still be long way from showing profits when you take into consideration the capital outlay on purchasing the club which had an outstanding liability of the overdraft. To realize a profit , the club would have to be sold at a price that would exceed outlay + ongoing p&l or take money out of the club on an annual basis similar to what has happened at Blackpool, as over 20m was re invested in new players and action appears to have been taken to service the overdraft it is hard to see how any profit on investment has been made.[/p][/quote]I think that's what I was saying; despite their policies, the books will NOT show a profit - quite the opposite. They have realised that and are cutting any cost possible. Making a profit is not their priority; it would be totally unrealistic, even they will know that by now. The are concentrating on minimising losses.[/p][/quote]How would at any time from when Venkys looked at buying the club would it have been realistic to achieve a profit in the short term, Due diligence would have been carried out but nobody can give a value of a player an rely on the valuation to achieve profit. Players values continually change 3 in mind at rovers over the period of the sale are Junior, grella & jones Junior wasnt in the team and looked to be on his way out even over the last year a value cannot be put on him because of his contract. Grella was in training at times so his value could only be judged if he had played, and jones despite having a get out clause would only be worth what sum one was prepared to pay, he also picked up a long term injury. My point to all this is whilst there is ongoing claims of they have made profits or the only thing they came to do is make a fast buck I can`t see or haven`t seen a realistic suggestion on how with the money needed to invest in a club could give them profits. Another point to look at when somebody buys a football club is that the money they use could have been invested elsewhere where returns are safe so when you add what they have spent at BRFC they will probably loose 3 to 4m pa on the money tied up so if they own the club for 3 years that loss would have to be recouped before they have a profit, It was well documented that it took some time to find a buyer for the Walker trust , so I am very interested in how a profit is possible fickle fan

4:29pm Sat 16 Jun 12

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samsno2millfan says...

fickle fan wrote:
samsno2millfan wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
samsno2millfan wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
ossyrover1 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
ossyrover1 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
roverfor60years wrote: Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious
Which bit of what I have said is garbage. please quote.! also roverfor60years wrote: If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits please describe what profit they have so far made from the club. not just a random statement they have made profits. also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC
are you agnew by any chance
are you agnew by any chance rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit
whats silly about it. i asked you a question. i'll ask again are you agnew ?. and by the way i didnt say anything about venky's.
It is silly because rather than comment on the facts you somehow try to pretend that I must be connected people who are running the club. I didn,t at any time suggest you said anything about the Venkys read my comment carefully I just asked a question, which still remains unanswered. So to repeat my post. "rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit"
This year's accounts will make interesting reading - not something you'd hear many football supporters saying. The player sales and comparative lack of investment in replacements - Desperate was the only significant outlay -should have helped them break even this year at least. The drastic cost cutting exercise throughout the season suggests they made a bigger **** up of it than in the first ten months of their tenure when losses increased by 900+% to almost £19m I maintain they have suddenly realised this football lark is an expensive and non-profit making business. They are afraid, quite rightly, they could lose a shed load of money. The potential for this to spiral out of control has increased dramatically with relegation and a 60-70% drop in income. Staying up on the cheap was never going to happen - they should have realised that after the narrow squeek with relegation the previous year. But did they? No. They were not prepared to throw what they would consider good money after bad in a high risk policy to maintain the PL income; especially when they still see the club losing money, even in the PL. So, what do you do? If you're not prepared to speculate to accumulate, the only way forward is to reduce costs, chief amongst which is staff. It's pretty obvious Paul Hunt was not sacked for "financial reasons" as was claimed, more in a fit of pique following his damning letter, but it was a handy bonus. Saying they want to keep the squad together is the equivalent to a marketing ploy. They will welcome the reductions in the wage bill from the highest earning players jumping ship. They can always stand by their claim whilst blaming it on the player(s) insisting they play at the highest level or it being pointless keeping an unhappy player; the usual garbage. I can't see the logic in the accusation they are in it to run off with the parachute payments. How does reducing the possible amount to run off with by 60-70% - that's 60-70% of a far greater amount with the new TV deal - constitute being a good idea? They are just trying to avoid losing money. The total ineptitude they have shown has resulted in them having more reason to be worried - or "confused" as they would call it. The figures would appear to be suggesting the losses have not decreased and the fire sale, combined with the culling of the staff, is well under way. It is amazing they have presided over an unmittigated disaster using this corner shop, fingers crossed policy only to maintain and expand on it. Shebby Singh for god's sake, Hendry if he turns up - legend whilst a player he may be but there are too many reasons not to sign him - principally football but plenty of baggage as well, Agnew of course, 7th Dan as ground manager and a cut price secretary, no doubt. I fancy those hoping we get out of the Championship may have their wish granted.
Whilst the accounts may or may not show as you suggest a break even, it would be still be long way from showing profits when you take into consideration the capital outlay on purchasing the club which had an outstanding liability of the overdraft. To realize a profit , the club would have to be sold at a price that would exceed outlay + ongoing p&l or take money out of the club on an annual basis similar to what has happened at Blackpool, as over 20m was re invested in new players and action appears to have been taken to service the overdraft it is hard to see how any profit on investment has been made.
I think that's what I was saying; despite their policies, the books will NOT show a profit - quite the opposite. They have realised that and are cutting any cost possible. Making a profit is not their priority; it would be totally unrealistic, even they will know that by now. The are concentrating on minimising losses.
How would at any time from when Venkys looked at buying the club would it have been realistic to achieve a profit in the short term, Due diligence would have been carried out but nobody can give a value of a player an rely on the valuation to achieve profit. Players values continually change 3 in mind at rovers over the period of the sale are Junior, grella & jones Junior wasnt in the team and looked to be on his way out even over the last year a value cannot be put on him because of his contract. Grella was in training at times so his value could only be judged if he had played, and jones despite having a get out clause would only be worth what sum one was prepared to pay, he also picked up a long term injury. My point to all this is whilst there is ongoing claims of they have made profits or the only thing they came to do is make a fast buck I can`t see or haven`t seen a realistic suggestion on how with the money needed to invest in a club could give them profits. Another point to look at when somebody buys a football club is that the money they use could have been invested elsewhere where returns are safe so when you add what they have spent at BRFC they will probably loose 3 to 4m pa on the money tied up so if they own the club for 3 years that loss would have to be recouped before they have a profit, It was well documented that it took some time to find a buyer for the Walker trust , so I am very interested in how a profit is possible
For f@cks sake! I am agreeing with you!

They were never particularly looking to make a profit.

If you recall they said they thought a £3-5m annual input would keep the club going - hardly a statement to make you think they were anticipating MAKING money.

No matter what we may think, looking at the previous years' figures, that is not as unrealistic a figure as it may have seemed. Of course, it would rely on responsible and capable management of the club; something which was in place but which they destroyed within a matter of weeks.

The problem would seem to be, to me, they saw losses sky rocket by £16.5m in the space of 10 months and panicked.

They are now desperately trying to avoid LOSING money NOT, and I repeat, just to make it clear, NOT, make money.

Sheesh!
[quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]samsno2millfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]samsno2millfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ossyrover1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ossyrover1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roverfor60years[/bold] wrote: Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious[/p][/quote]Which bit of what I have said is garbage. please quote.! also roverfor60years wrote: If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits please describe what profit they have so far made from the club. not just a random statement they have made profits. also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC[/p][/quote]are you agnew by any chance[/p][/quote]are you agnew by any chance rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit[/p][/quote]whats silly about it. i asked you a question. i'll ask again are you agnew ?. and by the way i didnt say anything about venky's.[/p][/quote]It is silly because rather than comment on the facts you somehow try to pretend that I must be connected people who are running the club. I didn,t at any time suggest you said anything about the Venkys read my comment carefully I just asked a question, which still remains unanswered. So to repeat my post. "rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit"[/p][/quote]This year's accounts will make interesting reading - not something you'd hear many football supporters saying. The player sales and comparative lack of investment in replacements - Desperate was the only significant outlay -should have helped them break even this year at least. The drastic cost cutting exercise throughout the season suggests they made a bigger **** up of it than in the first ten months of their tenure when losses increased by 900+% to almost £19m I maintain they have suddenly realised this football lark is an expensive and non-profit making business. They are afraid, quite rightly, they could lose a shed load of money. The potential for this to spiral out of control has increased dramatically with relegation and a 60-70% drop in income. Staying up on the cheap was never going to happen - they should have realised that after the narrow squeek with relegation the previous year. But did they? No. They were not prepared to throw what they would consider good money after bad in a high risk policy to maintain the PL income; especially when they still see the club losing money, even in the PL. So, what do you do? If you're not prepared to speculate to accumulate, the only way forward is to reduce costs, chief amongst which is staff. It's pretty obvious Paul Hunt was not sacked for "financial reasons" as was claimed, more in a fit of pique following his damning letter, but it was a handy bonus. Saying they want to keep the squad together is the equivalent to a marketing ploy. They will welcome the reductions in the wage bill from the highest earning players jumping ship. They can always stand by their claim whilst blaming it on the player(s) insisting they play at the highest level or it being pointless keeping an unhappy player; the usual garbage. I can't see the logic in the accusation they are in it to run off with the parachute payments. How does reducing the possible amount to run off with by 60-70% - that's 60-70% of a far greater amount with the new TV deal - constitute being a good idea? They are just trying to avoid losing money. The total ineptitude they have shown has resulted in them having more reason to be worried - or "confused" as they would call it. The figures would appear to be suggesting the losses have not decreased and the fire sale, combined with the culling of the staff, is well under way. It is amazing they have presided over an unmittigated disaster using this corner shop, fingers crossed policy only to maintain and expand on it. Shebby Singh for god's sake, Hendry if he turns up - legend whilst a player he may be but there are too many reasons not to sign him - principally football but plenty of baggage as well, Agnew of course, 7th Dan as ground manager and a cut price secretary, no doubt. I fancy those hoping we get out of the Championship may have their wish granted.[/p][/quote]Whilst the accounts may or may not show as you suggest a break even, it would be still be long way from showing profits when you take into consideration the capital outlay on purchasing the club which had an outstanding liability of the overdraft. To realize a profit , the club would have to be sold at a price that would exceed outlay + ongoing p&l or take money out of the club on an annual basis similar to what has happened at Blackpool, as over 20m was re invested in new players and action appears to have been taken to service the overdraft it is hard to see how any profit on investment has been made.[/p][/quote]I think that's what I was saying; despite their policies, the books will NOT show a profit - quite the opposite. They have realised that and are cutting any cost possible. Making a profit is not their priority; it would be totally unrealistic, even they will know that by now. The are concentrating on minimising losses.[/p][/quote]How would at any time from when Venkys looked at buying the club would it have been realistic to achieve a profit in the short term, Due diligence would have been carried out but nobody can give a value of a player an rely on the valuation to achieve profit. Players values continually change 3 in mind at rovers over the period of the sale are Junior, grella & jones Junior wasnt in the team and looked to be on his way out even over the last year a value cannot be put on him because of his contract. Grella was in training at times so his value could only be judged if he had played, and jones despite having a get out clause would only be worth what sum one was prepared to pay, he also picked up a long term injury. My point to all this is whilst there is ongoing claims of they have made profits or the only thing they came to do is make a fast buck I can`t see or haven`t seen a realistic suggestion on how with the money needed to invest in a club could give them profits. Another point to look at when somebody buys a football club is that the money they use could have been invested elsewhere where returns are safe so when you add what they have spent at BRFC they will probably loose 3 to 4m pa on the money tied up so if they own the club for 3 years that loss would have to be recouped before they have a profit, It was well documented that it took some time to find a buyer for the Walker trust , so I am very interested in how a profit is possible[/p][/quote]For f@cks sake! I am agreeing with you! They were never particularly looking to make a profit. If you recall they said they thought a £3-5m annual input would keep the club going - hardly a statement to make you think they were anticipating MAKING money. No matter what we may think, looking at the previous years' figures, that is not as unrealistic a figure as it may have seemed. Of course, it would rely on responsible and capable management of the club; something which was in place but which they destroyed within a matter of weeks. The problem would seem to be, to me, they saw losses sky rocket by £16.5m in the space of 10 months and panicked. They are now desperately trying to avoid LOSING money NOT, and I repeat, just to make it clear, NOT, make money. Sheesh! samsno2millfan

12:20pm Sun 17 Jun 12

fickle fan says...

samsno2millfan wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
samsno2millfan wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
samsno2millfan wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
ossyrover1 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
ossyrover1 wrote:
fickle fan wrote:
roverfor60years wrote: Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious
Which bit of what I have said is garbage. please quote.! also roverfor60years wrote: If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits please describe what profit they have so far made from the club. not just a random statement they have made profits. also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC
are you agnew by any chance
are you agnew by any chance rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit
whats silly about it. i asked you a question. i'll ask again are you agnew ?. and by the way i didnt say anything about venky's.
It is silly because rather than comment on the facts you somehow try to pretend that I must be connected people who are running the club. I didn,t at any time suggest you said anything about the Venkys read my comment carefully I just asked a question, which still remains unanswered. So to repeat my post. "rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit"
This year's accounts will make interesting reading - not something you'd hear many football supporters saying. The player sales and comparative lack of investment in replacements - Desperate was the only significant outlay -should have helped them break even this year at least. The drastic cost cutting exercise throughout the season suggests they made a bigger **** up of it than in the first ten months of their tenure when losses increased by 900+% to almost £19m I maintain they have suddenly realised this football lark is an expensive and non-profit making business. They are afraid, quite rightly, they could lose a shed load of money. The potential for this to spiral out of control has increased dramatically with relegation and a 60-70% drop in income. Staying up on the cheap was never going to happen - they should have realised that after the narrow squeek with relegation the previous year. But did they? No. They were not prepared to throw what they would consider good money after bad in a high risk policy to maintain the PL income; especially when they still see the club losing money, even in the PL. So, what do you do? If you're not prepared to speculate to accumulate, the only way forward is to reduce costs, chief amongst which is staff. It's pretty obvious Paul Hunt was not sacked for "financial reasons" as was claimed, more in a fit of pique following his damning letter, but it was a handy bonus. Saying they want to keep the squad together is the equivalent to a marketing ploy. They will welcome the reductions in the wage bill from the highest earning players jumping ship. They can always stand by their claim whilst blaming it on the player(s) insisting they play at the highest level or it being pointless keeping an unhappy player; the usual garbage. I can't see the logic in the accusation they are in it to run off with the parachute payments. How does reducing the possible amount to run off with by 60-70% - that's 60-70% of a far greater amount with the new TV deal - constitute being a good idea? They are just trying to avoid losing money. The total ineptitude they have shown has resulted in them having more reason to be worried - or "confused" as they would call it. The figures would appear to be suggesting the losses have not decreased and the fire sale, combined with the culling of the staff, is well under way. It is amazing they have presided over an unmittigated disaster using this corner shop, fingers crossed policy only to maintain and expand on it. Shebby Singh for god's sake, Hendry if he turns up - legend whilst a player he may be but there are too many reasons not to sign him - principally football but plenty of baggage as well, Agnew of course, 7th Dan as ground manager and a cut price secretary, no doubt. I fancy those hoping we get out of the Championship may have their wish granted.
Whilst the accounts may or may not show as you suggest a break even, it would be still be long way from showing profits when you take into consideration the capital outlay on purchasing the club which had an outstanding liability of the overdraft. To realize a profit , the club would have to be sold at a price that would exceed outlay + ongoing p&l or take money out of the club on an annual basis similar to what has happened at Blackpool, as over 20m was re invested in new players and action appears to have been taken to service the overdraft it is hard to see how any profit on investment has been made.
I think that's what I was saying; despite their policies, the books will NOT show a profit - quite the opposite. They have realised that and are cutting any cost possible. Making a profit is not their priority; it would be totally unrealistic, even they will know that by now. The are concentrating on minimising losses.
How would at any time from when Venkys looked at buying the club would it have been realistic to achieve a profit in the short term, Due diligence would have been carried out but nobody can give a value of a player an rely on the valuation to achieve profit. Players values continually change 3 in mind at rovers over the period of the sale are Junior, grella & jones Junior wasnt in the team and looked to be on his way out even over the last year a value cannot be put on him because of his contract. Grella was in training at times so his value could only be judged if he had played, and jones despite having a get out clause would only be worth what sum one was prepared to pay, he also picked up a long term injury. My point to all this is whilst there is ongoing claims of they have made profits or the only thing they came to do is make a fast buck I can`t see or haven`t seen a realistic suggestion on how with the money needed to invest in a club could give them profits. Another point to look at when somebody buys a football club is that the money they use could have been invested elsewhere where returns are safe so when you add what they have spent at BRFC they will probably loose 3 to 4m pa on the money tied up so if they own the club for 3 years that loss would have to be recouped before they have a profit, It was well documented that it took some time to find a buyer for the Walker trust , so I am very interested in how a profit is possible
For f@cks sake! I am agreeing with you!

They were never particularly looking to make a profit.

If you recall they said they thought a £3-5m annual input would keep the club going - hardly a statement to make you think they were anticipating MAKING money.

No matter what we may think, looking at the previous years' figures, that is not as unrealistic a figure as it may have seemed. Of course, it would rely on responsible and capable management of the club; something which was in place but which they destroyed within a matter of weeks.

The problem would seem to be, to me, they saw losses sky rocket by £16.5m in the space of 10 months and panicked.

They are now desperately trying to avoid LOSING money NOT, and I repeat, just to make it clear, NOT, make money.

Sheesh!
Sorry I`m not in disagreement with you, There is a belief among a lot of fans that they have made profits and are only after making money, that is the point I 1st raised about 30 posts ago when I asked someone to clarify how they have made a profit. The abuse and threats and accusations I have received are quite funny but no one has been able to show how profits have been made, I was just trying point out that to break even would still be a loss be cause of the monies invested over time
[quote][p][bold]samsno2millfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]samsno2millfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]samsno2millfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ossyrover1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ossyrover1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fickle fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roverfor60years[/bold] wrote: Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious[/p][/quote]Which bit of what I have said is garbage. please quote.! also roverfor60years wrote: If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits please describe what profit they have so far made from the club. not just a random statement they have made profits. also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC[/p][/quote]are you agnew by any chance[/p][/quote]are you agnew by any chance rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit[/p][/quote]whats silly about it. i asked you a question. i'll ask again are you agnew ?. and by the way i didnt say anything about venky's.[/p][/quote]It is silly because rather than comment on the facts you somehow try to pretend that I must be connected people who are running the club. I didn,t at any time suggest you said anything about the Venkys read my comment carefully I just asked a question, which still remains unanswered. So to repeat my post. "rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit"[/p][/quote]This year's accounts will make interesting reading - not something you'd hear many football supporters saying. The player sales and comparative lack of investment in replacements - Desperate was the only significant outlay -should have helped them break even this year at least. The drastic cost cutting exercise throughout the season suggests they made a bigger **** up of it than in the first ten months of their tenure when losses increased by 900+% to almost £19m I maintain they have suddenly realised this football lark is an expensive and non-profit making business. They are afraid, quite rightly, they could lose a shed load of money. The potential for this to spiral out of control has increased dramatically with relegation and a 60-70% drop in income. Staying up on the cheap was never going to happen - they should have realised that after the narrow squeek with relegation the previous year. But did they? No. They were not prepared to throw what they would consider good money after bad in a high risk policy to maintain the PL income; especially when they still see the club losing money, even in the PL. So, what do you do? If you're not prepared to speculate to accumulate, the only way forward is to reduce costs, chief amongst which is staff. It's pretty obvious Paul Hunt was not sacked for "financial reasons" as was claimed, more in a fit of pique following his damning letter, but it was a handy bonus. Saying they want to keep the squad together is the equivalent to a marketing ploy. They will welcome the reductions in the wage bill from the highest earning players jumping ship. They can always stand by their claim whilst blaming it on the player(s) insisting they play at the highest level or it being pointless keeping an unhappy player; the usual garbage. I can't see the logic in the accusation they are in it to run off with the parachute payments. How does reducing the possible amount to run off with by 60-70% - that's 60-70% of a far greater amount with the new TV deal - constitute being a good idea? They are just trying to avoid losing money. The total ineptitude they have shown has resulted in them having more reason to be worried - or "confused" as they would call it. The figures would appear to be suggesting the losses have not decreased and the fire sale, combined with the culling of the staff, is well under way. It is amazing they have presided over an unmittigated disaster using this corner shop, fingers crossed policy only to maintain and expand on it. Shebby Singh for god's sake, Hendry if he turns up - legend whilst a player he may be but there are too many reasons not to sign him - principally football but plenty of baggage as well, Agnew of course, 7th Dan as ground manager and a cut price secretary, no doubt. I fancy those hoping we get out of the Championship may have their wish granted.[/p][/quote]Whilst the accounts may or may not show as you suggest a break even, it would be still be long way from showing profits when you take into consideration the capital outlay on purchasing the club which had an outstanding liability of the overdraft. To realize a profit , the club would have to be sold at a price that would exceed outlay + ongoing p&l or take money out of the club on an annual basis similar to what has happened at Blackpool, as over 20m was re invested in new players and action appears to have been taken to service the overdraft it is hard to see how any profit on investment has been made.[/p][/quote]I think that's what I was saying; despite their policies, the books will NOT show a profit - quite the opposite. They have realised that and are cutting any cost possible. Making a profit is not their priority; it would be totally unrealistic, even they will know that by now. The are concentrating on minimising losses.[/p][/quote]How would at any time from when Venkys looked at buying the club would it have been realistic to achieve a profit in the short term, Due diligence would have been carried out but nobody can give a value of a player an rely on the valuation to achieve profit. Players values continually change 3 in mind at rovers over the period of the sale are Junior, grella & jones Junior wasnt in the team and looked to be on his way out even over the last year a value cannot be put on him because of his contract. Grella was in training at times so his value could only be judged if he had played, and jones despite having a get out clause would only be worth what sum one was prepared to pay, he also picked up a long term injury. My point to all this is whilst there is ongoing claims of they have made profits or the only thing they came to do is make a fast buck I can`t see or haven`t seen a realistic suggestion on how with the money needed to invest in a club could give them profits. Another point to look at when somebody buys a football club is that the money they use could have been invested elsewhere where returns are safe so when you add what they have spent at BRFC they will probably loose 3 to 4m pa on the money tied up so if they own the club for 3 years that loss would have to be recouped before they have a profit, It was well documented that it took some time to find a buyer for the Walker trust , so I am very interested in how a profit is possible[/p][/quote]For f@cks sake! I am agreeing with you! They were never particularly looking to make a profit. If you recall they said they thought a £3-5m annual input would keep the club going - hardly a statement to make you think they were anticipating MAKING money. No matter what we may think, looking at the previous years' figures, that is not as unrealistic a figure as it may have seemed. Of course, it would rely on responsible and capable management of the club; something which was in place but which they destroyed within a matter of weeks. The problem would seem to be, to me, they saw losses sky rocket by £16.5m in the space of 10 months and panicked. They are now desperately trying to avoid LOSING money NOT, and I repeat, just to make it clear, NOT, make money. Sheesh![/p][/quote]Sorry I`m not in disagreement with you, There is a belief among a lot of fans that they have made profits and are only after making money, that is the point I 1st raised about 30 posts ago when I asked someone to clarify how they have made a profit. The abuse and threats and accusations I have received are quite funny but no one has been able to show how profits have been made, I was just trying point out that to break even would still be a loss be cause of the monies invested over time fickle fan

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