Premier League cash windfall makes life tougher for Blackburn Rovers, sayd Rathbone (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Cha'mone MF wrote:
Brilliant, just when you thought it couldn't get any better, Dumpburn have this dropped on them. Been eating fillet steak for years and now you're gonna have to chow down on corned beef.
.....welcome to the table chumps.

Jack Herer wrote:

Cha'mone MF wrote:
Brilliant, just when you thought it couldn't get any better, Dumpburn have this dropped on them. Been eating fillet steak for years and now you're gonna have to chow down on corned beef.
.....welcome to the table chumps.

We're still better than you Cha'mone.

You know that in your heart and you have to live with that.

I'm guessing that's why you're here acting like a goon. This, tragically, is as good as life gets for you.

Cha'mone MF wrote:
Brilliant, just when you thought it couldn't get any better, Dumpburn have this dropped on them. Been eating fillet steak for years and now you're gonna have to chow down on corned beef.
.....welcome to the table chumps.

Harwoodstblue wrote:

Cha'mone MF wrote:
Brilliant, just when you thought it couldn't get any better, Dumpburn have this dropped on them. Been eating fillet steak for years and now you're gonna have to chow down on corned beef.
.....welcome to the table chumps.

At least we've been eating fillet steak for 34 yrs. You haven't.

Cha'mone MF wrote:

Harwoodstblue wrote:

Cha'mone MF wrote:
Brilliant, just when you thought it couldn't get any better, Dumpburn have this dropped on them. Been eating fillet steak for years and now you're gonna have to chow down on corned beef.
.....welcome to the table chumps.

At least we've been eating fillet steak for 34 yrs. You haven't.

And now you're choking on it ! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Brilliant, what a great start to the weekend!

Cha'mone MF wrote:

Jack Herer wrote:

Cha'mone MF wrote:
Brilliant, just when you thought it couldn't get any better, Dumpburn have this dropped on them. Been eating fillet steak for years and now you're gonna have to chow down on corned beef.
.....welcome to the table chumps.

We're still better than you Cha'mone.

You know that in your heart and you have to live with that.

I'm guessing that's why you're here acting like a goon. This, tragically, is as good as life gets for you.

You've started a bit early with the bong Jack ?

Harwoodstblue wrote:

Cha'mone MF wrote: Brilliant, just when you thought it couldn't get any better, Dumpburn have this dropped on them. Been eating fillet steak for years and now you're gonna have to chow down on corned beef. .....welcome to the table chumps.

At least we've been eating fillet steak for 34 yrs. You haven't.

alfa111 wrote:
The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.

Harwoodstblue wrote:

Cha'mone MF wrote:

Harwoodstblue wrote:

Cha'mone MF wrote:
Brilliant, just when you thought it couldn't get any better, Dumpburn have this dropped on them. Been eating fillet steak for years and now you're gonna have to chow down on corned beef.
.....welcome to the table chumps.

At least we've been eating fillet steak for 34 yrs. You haven't.

And now you're choking on it ! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Brilliant, what a great start to the weekend!

If by some miracle Dingles manage to beat us next season, you'll still have 33 yrs to even catch up. That's some playing catch up.
.
Keep eating the corned beef.

A Darener wrote:
So the Venky's must be sick to their stomachs seeing all the money they have thrown away. If only they had listened to the fans nearly 18 months ago or even 6 months ago and sacked SK they would now be looking forward to reaping the rewards of their purchase of the Rovers. But instead they have the hatred of thousands of people, the prospect of plummeting through the leagues and the sure knowledge that the rest of the world will be laughing at them. Their company has lost any respect it had. The Indian sport fans if they can be bothered will be saying serves you right, you should have invested in Indian sport. The value of their investment in the club will now be crashing through the floor and the only way they will get out with any dignity will be to either sell cheaply, or give the club away to the fans.

benal13 wrote:
IN LAST NIGHTS PAPER ANDY CRYER SAID IN HIS COLUMN QUOTE :UNLESS A REAL BUDGET IS HANDED TO THE MANAGER TO STRENGTHEN THEY CAN FORGET PROMOTION:SHOULD THIS NOT HAVE READ A NEW MANAGER ANDY OR ARE YOU AND YOUR PAPER NOW BACKING KEAN.

A Darener wrote:
So the Venky's must be sick to their stomachs seeing all the money they have thrown away. If only they had listened to the fans nearly 18 months ago or even 6 months ago and sacked SK they would now be looking forward to reaping the rewards of their purchase of the Rovers. But instead they have the hatred of thousands of people, the prospect of plummeting through the leagues and the sure knowledge that the rest of the world will be laughing at them. Their company has lost any respect it had. The Indian sport fans if they can be bothered will be saying serves you right, you should have invested in Indian sport. The value of their investment in the club will now be crashing through the floor and the only way they will get out with any dignity will be to either sell cheaply, or give the club away to the fans.

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:
The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.

The assets sold being ?

Prophil wrote:
I wonder whether the reason that Kean has not been removed from his post is that he knows too much about the way in which Anderson and his agency operates - and in which Venky's are implicated. The hiring of Anderson's son, for instance, looks far more sinister even than Manchester United's hiring of Bebe. If Kean is sacked, then he will be in a position to spill the beans about the whole deplorable situation. It may even be that Kean himself is too scared to resign, even if he wants to - he may fear what Anderson and his gang can do to him more than he fears the ire of Blackburn, town and fans. So Venky's find themselves in this situation: either they keep Kean in place and keep him quiet, or pay him off with a large sum of money and a gagging clause, and keep him quiet that way. Or it may just simply be that Kean is self-deluded about his own ability to do the job. Who knows?

Jack Herer wrote:
So Venkys have lost millions and millions, yet they won't sack the man responsible.

Incompetant or corrupt are the only conclusions therefore.

With the only question remaining; why are they still not doing anything? Incompetant or corrupt?

Incompetance can only be used as an excuse for so long surely.

Cha'mone MF wrote:

Harwoodstblue wrote:

Cha'mone MF wrote:

Harwoodstblue wrote:

Cha'mone MF wrote:
Brilliant, just when you thought it couldn't get any better, Dumpburn have this dropped on them. Been eating fillet steak for years and now you're gonna have to chow down on corned beef.
.....welcome to the table chumps.

At least we've been eating fillet steak for 34 yrs. You haven't.

And now you're choking on it ! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Brilliant, what a great start to the weekend!

If by some miracle Dingles manage to beat us next season, you'll still have 33 yrs to even catch up. That's some playing catch up.
.
Keep eating the corned beef.

You just keep living in the past my fatherless meths swigging friend, this is the Dawn of a new age and you know it. You are already playing out the scenario of receiving a claret spanking in your tiny mind that's emptier than a hermits address book, and the realisation that you have missed out on millions upon millions of TV revenue just compounds your woe.

And to top it all off after the laboured performance Martin Olsson is going to put in against England tonight the best offer you'll get for him will be a jar of pickled eggs and a book of green shield stamps.

Cha'mone MF wrote:

Harwoodstblue wrote:

Cha'mone MF wrote:

Harwoodstblue wrote:

Cha'mone MF wrote:
Brilliant, just when you thought it couldn't get any better, Dumpburn have this dropped on them. Been eating fillet steak for years and now you're gonna have to chow down on corned beef.
.....welcome to the table chumps.

At least we've been eating fillet steak for 34 yrs. You haven't.

And now you're choking on it ! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Brilliant, what a great start to the weekend!

If by some miracle Dingles manage to beat us next season, you'll still have 33 yrs to even catch up. That's some playing catch up.
.
Keep eating the corned beef.

You just keep living in the past my fatherless meths swigging friend, this is the Dawn of a new age and you know it. You are already playing out the scenario of receiving a claret spanking in your tiny mind that's emptier than a hermits address book, and the realisation that you have missed out on millions upon millions of TV revenue just compounds your woe.

And to top it all off after the laboured performance Martin Olsson is going to put in against England tonight the best offer you'll get for him will be a jar of pickled eggs and a book of green shield stamps.

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:
The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.

The assets sold being ?

Don t you know?

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:
The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.

The assets sold being ?

Don t you know?

No I dont so please enlighten me because you must know

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:
The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.

The assets sold being ?

Don t you know?

A Darener wrote:
So the Venky's must be sick to their stomachs seeing all the money they have thrown away. If only they had listened to the fans nearly 18 months ago or even 6 months ago and sacked SK they would now be looking forward to reaping the rewards of their purchase of the Rovers. But instead they have the hatred of thousands of people, the prospect of plummeting through the leagues and the sure knowledge that the rest of the world will be laughing at them. Their company has lost any respect it had. The Indian sport fans if they can be bothered will be saying serves you right, you should have invested in Indian sport. The value of their investment in the club will now be crashing through the floor and the only way they will get out with any dignity will be to either sell cheaply, or give the club away to the fans.

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:
The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.

The assets sold being ?

Don t you know?

No I dont so please enlighten me because you must know

No point in enlightening a wet fire read the comments fans put on here and take it in, better still go on the dingles site and talk to your self

A Darener wrote:
Fixtures out Monday. Let's hope the first game is at home, then we will be able to see just how affective the call for an attendance boycott has been.
We must hope that the majority of fans despite their obvious disappointment at missing an opening fixture, some for the first time in decades keep to their promise of not attending matches whilst SK's still in charge.
That will show the owners that we are serious in our intention of not put a penny more into their coffers.

benal13 wrote:
IN LAST NIGHTS PAPER ANDY CRYER SAID IN HIS COLUMN QUOTE :UNLESS A REAL BUDGET IS HANDED TO THE MANAGER TO STRENGTHEN THEY CAN FORGET PROMOTION:SHOULD THIS NOT HAVE READ A NEW MANAGER ANDY OR ARE YOU AND YOUR PAPER NOW BACKING KEAN.

A Darener wrote:
So the Venky's must be sick to their stomachs seeing all the money they have thrown away. If only they had listened to the fans nearly 18 months ago or even 6 months ago and sacked SK they would now be looking forward to reaping the rewards of their purchase of the Rovers. But instead they have the hatred of thousands of people, the prospect of plummeting through the leagues and the sure knowledge that the rest of the world will be laughing at them. Their company has lost any respect it had. The Indian sport fans if they can be bothered will be saying serves you right, you should have invested in Indian sport. The value of their investment in the club will now be crashing through the floor and the only way they will get out with any dignity will be to either sell cheaply, or give the club away to the fans.

alfa111 wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:
The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.

The assets sold being ?

Don t you know?

No I dont so please enlighten me because you must know

No point in enlightening a wet fire read the comments fans put on here and take it in, better still go on the dingles site and talk to your self

WAKE UP tickle tan

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:
The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.

The assets sold being ?

Don t you know?

No I dont so please enlighten me because you must know

No point in enlightening a wet fire read the comments fans put on here and take it in, better still go on the dingles site and talk to your self

WAKE UP tickle tan

So you admit then you just come on here, state assets are being sold, Haven't a clue what assets have been sold, can`t tell me what assets you mean then tell me to wake up because everyone knows what assets have been sold.
Just to make it easy for you , a simple question just list what assets have been sold so we all are very clear what you mean

bring back the good old days wrote:

benal13 wrote:
IN LAST NIGHTS PAPER ANDY CRYER SAID IN HIS COLUMN QUOTE :UNLESS A REAL BUDGET IS HANDED TO THE MANAGER TO STRENGTHEN THEY CAN FORGET PROMOTION:SHOULD THIS NOT HAVE READ A NEW MANAGER ANDY OR ARE YOU AND YOUR PAPER NOW BACKING KEAN.

I think you will find that Andy or LT do not actually employ Kean, so therefore cannot sack him.
It is quite obvious to anyone that Kean, even though not officially announced, is still to be manager of BRFC for the foreseeable.
They/he has used the term 'the manager' and in this context and at his present time does mean Kean. This does not mean he is supported or welcomed, but is an acknowledgement of fact.
I think we can all agree that the gist of this; 'we need serious investment into the playing staff' is undeniable. Having said that this does not imply that this will give us the edge to garner us with promotion. But, without it, it would certainly mean we would not be challenging.
Yes a new manager would be nice, but it is looking very unlikely at this point in time.

As for the loss of increased revenue from the Prem 'gravy train', this is going to be more severely felt in the coming decade as things continue to go from bad to worse, in part affected by the continued chaos in the financial world.
Venkys will take the initial hit, but BRFC will sustain the severe long term impact.

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:
The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.

The assets sold being ?

Don t you know?

No I dont so please enlighten me because you must know

No point in enlightening a wet fire read the comments fans put on here and take it in, better still go on the dingles site and talk to your self

WAKE UP tickle tan

So you admit then you just come on here, state assets are being sold, Haven't a clue what assets have been sold, can`t tell me what assets you mean then tell me to wake up because everyone knows what assets have been sold.
Just to make it easy for you , a simple question just list what assets have been sold so we all are very clear what you mean

ONCE again no point enlightening a WET FIRE .time for you to talk to the hand.

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:
The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.

The assets sold being ?

Don t you know?

No I dont so please enlighten me because you must know

No point in enlightening a wet fire read the comments fans put on here and take it in, better still go on the dingles site and talk to your self

WAKE UP tickle tan

So you admit then you just come on here, state assets are being sold, Haven't a clue what assets have been sold, can`t tell me what assets you mean then tell me to wake up because everyone knows what assets have been sold.
Just to make it easy for you , a simple question just list what assets have been sold so we all are very clear what you mean

ONCE again no point enlightening a WET FIRE .time for you to talk to the hand.

So you cant state which assets have been sold and revert to name calling and threats wow

benal13 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:
The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.

The assets sold being ?

Don t you know?

No I dont so please enlighten me because you must know

No point in enlightening a wet fire read the comments fans put on here and take it in, better still go on the dingles site and talk to your self

WAKE UP tickle tan

So you admit then you just come on here, state assets are being sold, Haven't a clue what assets have been sold, can`t tell me what assets you mean then tell me to wake up because everyone knows what assets have been sold.
Just to make it easy for you , a simple question just list what assets have been sold so we all are very clear what you mean

ONCE again no point enlightening a WET FIRE .time for you to talk to the hand.

So you cant state which assets have been sold and revert to name calling and threats wow

F I G H T

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:
The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.

The assets sold being ?

Don t you know?

No I dont so please enlighten me because you must know

No point in enlightening a wet fire read the comments fans put on here and take it in, better still go on the dingles site and talk to your self

WAKE UP tickle tan

So you admit then you just come on here, state assets are being sold, Haven't a clue what assets have been sold, can`t tell me what assets you mean then tell me to wake up because everyone knows what assets have been sold.
Just to make it easy for you , a simple question just list what assets have been sold so we all are very clear what you mean

ONCE again no point enlightening a WET FIRE .time for you to talk to the hand.

So you cant state which assets have been sold and revert to name calling and threats wow

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:
The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.

The assets sold being ?

Don t you know?

No I dont so please enlighten me because you must know

No point in enlightening a wet fire read the comments fans put on here and take it in, better still go on the dingles site and talk to your self

WAKE UP tickle tan

So you admit then you just come on here, state assets are being sold, Haven't a clue what assets have been sold, can`t tell me what assets you mean then tell me to wake up because everyone knows what assets have been sold.
Just to make it easy for you , a simple question just list what assets have been sold so we all are very clear what you mean

ONCE again no point enlightening a WET FIRE .time for you to talk to the hand.

So you cant state which assets have been sold and revert to name calling and threats wow

Dont be so sensitive, just because i cant be bothered to waist any more time installing reason with you, deary me we are sensitive aren't we.

Lancs - pensioner wrote:

A Darener wrote:
So the Venky's must be sick to their stomachs seeing all the money they have thrown away. If only they had listened to the fans nearly 18 months ago or even 6 months ago and sacked SK they would now be looking forward to reaping the rewards of their purchase of the Rovers. But instead they have the hatred of thousands of people, the prospect of plummeting through the leagues and the sure knowledge that the rest of the world will be laughing at them. Their company has lost any respect it had. The Indian sport fans if they can be bothered will be saying serves you right, you should have invested in Indian sport. The value of their investment in the club will now be crashing through the floor and the only way they will get out with any dignity will be to either sell cheaply, or give the club away to the fans.

Hi Darener,
Could not have put it better, this news had made my day knowing the Venkys have lost millions MORE because of their loyalty to Kean and Anderson, as one blogger on here has already stated they are either incompetent or corrupt, In my opinion its defiantly the second.

Ha ha ha ha made my day, millions down the drain millions and its all down to you Kean.
Let’s keep the pressure on Fans
No to buying any ST
No to buying any Merchandise
Not until Kean is sacked.
The tide is slowly turning!!
P.S. Has Myles Andersan played a game for BRFC yet, with great three year contract surely he has?

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:
The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.

The assets sold being ?

Don t you know?

No I dont so please enlighten me because you must know

No point in enlightening a wet fire read the comments fans put on here and take it in, better still go on the dingles site and talk to your self

WAKE UP tickle tan

So you admit then you just come on here, state assets are being sold, Haven't a clue what assets have been sold, can`t tell me what assets you mean then tell me to wake up because everyone knows what assets have been sold.
Just to make it easy for you , a simple question just list what assets have been sold so we all are very clear what you mean

ONCE again no point enlightening a WET FIRE .time for you to talk to the hand.

So you cant state which assets have been sold and revert to name calling and threats wow

Dont be so sensitive, just because i cant be bothered to waist any more time installing reason with you, deary me we are sensitive aren't we.

not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats,
+ I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, then you threaten WOW
just answer the question what assets are you on about simples

DaBoss wrote:
Ignore them fickle fan, facts are much less interesting than random conspiracy theories and buzz words like "asset stripping".

Venky's are incompetent at running a football club and were and still are, badly advised. They aren't asset stripping demons and they HAVE reduced the wage bill and the in turn created a much more sustainable business, but at the cost of relegation and losing experienced players and the fan revolt.

Was it the right decision? It certainly doesn't look like it, especially in light of the extra PL revenues, granted this could not have pre-empted. but the damning evidence of incompetence has been demonstrated more clearly SINCE relegation, with the admittance of the owners that they didn't know you could be relegated and then the "confusion" along with lack of any preparation for the new season and the season ticket debacle.

fickle fan wrote:
not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats,
+ I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW
just answer the question what assets are you on about simples

DaBoss wrote:
Ignore them fickle fan, facts are much less interesting than random conspiracy theories and buzz words like "asset stripping".

Venky's are incompetent at running a football club and were and still are, badly advised. They aren't asset stripping demons and they HAVE reduced the wage bill and the in turn created a much more sustainable business, but at the cost of relegation and losing experienced players and the fan revolt.

Was it the right decision? It certainly doesn't look like it, especially in light of the extra PL revenues, granted this could not have pre-empted. but the damning evidence of incompetence has been demonstrated more clearly SINCE relegation, with the admittance of the owners that they didn't know you could be relegated and then the "confusion" along with lack of any preparation for the new season and the season ticket debacle.

benal13 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:
not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats,
+ I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW
just answer the question what assets are you on about simples

I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP

MxMave wrote:
Bet Venkys regret not listening to the fans. If they'd have listened to us a year ago we'd probably still be in the prem.

bring back the good old days wrote:

MxMave wrote:
Bet Venkys regret not listening to the fans. If they'd have listened to us a year ago we'd probably still be in the prem.

Not too sure about that as by ousting BFS, Williams and Finn etc. the major damage was done . They could actually claim they were listening to the fans when ditching BFS!
Jones was always moving on. Samba was always looking for a bigger team/salary. Niko had got fed up of being a ball.chasing front man.
To many, me included, it had all the hallmarks of 'our time was up', as with these (by admission) 'rookies' in charge in the big boys league there was really only one way we were going.

bring back the good old days wrote:

MxMave wrote:
Bet Venkys regret not listening to the fans. If they'd have listened to us a year ago we'd probably still be in the prem.

Not too sure about that as by ousting BFS, Williams and Finn etc. the major damage was done . They could actually claim they were listening to the fans when ditching BFS!
Jones was always moving on. Samba was always looking for a bigger team/salary. Niko had got fed up of being a ball.chasing front man.
To many, me included, it had all the hallmarks of 'our time was up', as with these (by admission) 'rookies' in charge in the big boys league there was really only one way we were going.

alfa111 wrote:

benal13 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:
not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats,
+ I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW
just answer the question what assets are you on about simples

I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP

Well i would agree with you?

bring back the good old days wrote:

bring back the good old days wrote:

MxMave wrote:
Bet Venkys regret not listening to the fans. If they'd have listened to us a year ago we'd probably still be in the prem.

Not too sure about that as by ousting BFS, Williams and Finn etc. the major damage was done . They could actually claim they were listening to the fans when ditching BFS!
Jones was always moving on. Samba was always looking for a bigger team/salary. Niko had got fed up of being a ball.chasing front man.
To many, me included, it had all the hallmarks of 'our time was up', as with these (by admission) 'rookies' in charge in the big boys league there was really only one way we were going.

In addition, not investing in JJ was another very major factor (this demonstrating their penny pinching approach).

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

benal13 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:
not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats,
+ I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW
just answer the question what assets are you on about simples

I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP

Well i would agree with you?

Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer.
Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

benal13 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:
not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats,
+ I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW
just answer the question what assets are you on about simples

I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP

Well i would agree with you?

Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer.
Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

benal13 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:
not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats,
+ I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW
just answer the question what assets are you on about simples

I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP

Well i would agree with you?

Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer.
Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit

So you do agree with my comments earlier that jones was an asset?see you have answered your own question to me before ,very clever girl.

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

benal13 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:
not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats,
+ I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW
just answer the question what assets are you on about simples

I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP

Well i would agree with you?

Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer.
Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit

So you do agree with my comments earlier that jones was an asset?see you have answered your own question to me before ,very clever girl.

angryandy wrote:
Do players count as "assets" in your "petty world"?

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

benal13 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:
not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats,
+ I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW
just answer the question what assets are you on about simples

I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP

Well i would agree with you?

Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer.
Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit

So you do agree with my comments earlier that jones was an asset?see you have answered your own question to me before ,very clever girl.

No you didn`t say jones was an asset someone else did. If you look back to the question I asked it was "what assets !" this was a question that you couldn`t answer if you did we could have had a conversation about why some players had been sold. You just resorted to name calling and childish threats and are still doing so rather than calling me a little girl you should ask a grown up about your replys

Sam-the-Man wrote:

A Darener wrote:
Fixtures out Monday. Let's hope the first game is at home, then we will be able to see just how affective the call for an attendance boycott has been.
We must hope that the majority of fans despite their obvious disappointment at missing an opening fixture, some for the first time in decades keep to their promise of not attending matches whilst SK's still in charge.
That will show the owners that we are serious in our intention of not put a penny more into their coffers.

I havent been and have no intention of going to Ewood while the chickens farmers are in control and Gollum is the manager but... What if the first home game of the season is against Bunleh? That would really test all our resolves.

DKO

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

benal13 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:
not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats,
+ I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW
just answer the question what assets are you on about simples

I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP

Well i would agree with you?

Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer.
Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit

So you do agree with my comments earlier that jones was an asset?see you have answered your own question to me before ,very clever girl.

No you didn`t say jones was an asset someone else did. If you look back to the question I asked it was "what assets !" this was a question that you couldn`t answer if you did we could have had a conversation about why some players had been sold. You just resorted to name calling and childish threats and are still doing so rather than calling me a little girl you should ask a grown up about your replys

alfa111 wrote:

angryandy wrote:
Do players count as "assets" in your "petty world"?

ASSETS=valubale usefull person or persons UMMM YES players directors CEO, any one worth their gold,also property that a person can sell to pay off their debts, in the real world yes and this comes from the collins Dictionary,are you reading this to fickle DAN

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

benal13 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:
not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats,
+ I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW
just answer the question what assets are you on about simples

I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP

Well i would agree with you?

Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer.
Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit

So you do agree with my comments earlier that jones was an asset?see you have answered your own question to me before ,very clever girl.

No you didn`t say jones was an asset someone else did. If you look back to the question I asked it was "what assets !" this was a question that you couldn`t answer if you did we could have had a conversation about why some players had been sold. You just resorted to name calling and childish threats and are still doing so rather than calling me a little girl you should ask a grown up about your replys

See your getting all flustered again, i did not call you a little girl ,i said young lady and once again i have not made any threat to you READ MY COMMENTS AGAIN YOUNG LADY.

DaBoss wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

benal13 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:
not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats,
+ I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW
just answer the question what assets are you on about simples

I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP

Well i would agree with you?

Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer.
Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit

So you do agree with my comments earlier that jones was an asset?see you have answered your own question to me before ,very clever girl.

No you didn`t say jones was an asset someone else did. If you look back to the question I asked it was "what assets !" this was a question that you couldn`t answer if you did we could have had a conversation about why some players had been sold. You just resorted to name calling and childish threats and are still doing so rather than calling me a little girl you should ask a grown up about your replys

See your getting all flustered again, i did not call you a little girl ,i said young lady and once again i have not made any threat to you READ MY COMMENTS AGAIN YOUNG LADY.

oh ffs.. give it up children.. schools out.

Its FFFFrrrridddaaaayyyy

!

angryandy wrote:
Do players count as "assets" in your "petty world"?

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

angryandy wrote:
Do players count as "assets" in your "petty world"?

ASSETS=valubale usefull person or persons UMMM YES players directors CEO, any one worth their gold,also property that a person can sell to pay off their debts, in the real world yes and this comes from the collins Dictionary,are you reading this to fickle DAN

Look back at the question i asked

Quote "The assets sold being ?"

the forum doesn't lie
your answers don't relate to the question I raised so this makes having a conversation very difficult.
Whilst it is very true that you can sell off an asset to pay off a debt it would also be true that you can sell an asset and replace it with another asset

A Darener wrote:

bring back the good old days wrote:

MxMave wrote:
Bet Venkys regret not listening to the fans. If they'd have listened to us a year ago we'd probably still be in the prem.

Not too sure about that as by ousting BFS, Williams and Finn etc. the major damage was done . They could actually claim they were listening to the fans when ditching BFS!
Jones was always moving on. Samba was always looking for a bigger team/salary. Niko had got fed up of being a ball.chasing front man.
To many, me included, it had all the hallmarks of 'our time was up', as with these (by admission) 'rookies' in charge in the big boys league there was really only one way we were going.

Even before last Christmas if they had got rid of Kean we would have stood a good chance of not being relegated.

DaBoss wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

benal13 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:
not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats,
+ I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW
just answer the question what assets are you on about simples

I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP

Well i would agree with you?

Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer.
Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit

So you do agree with my comments earlier that jones was an asset?see you have answered your own question to me before ,very clever girl.

No you didn`t say jones was an asset someone else did. If you look back to the question I asked it was "what assets !" this was a question that you couldn`t answer if you did we could have had a conversation about why some players had been sold. You just resorted to name calling and childish threats and are still doing so rather than calling me a little girl you should ask a grown up about your replys

See your getting all flustered again, i did not call you a little girl ,i said young lady and once again i have not made any threat to you READ MY COMMENTS AGAIN YOUNG LADY.

oh ffs.. give it up children.. schools out.

Its FFFFrrrridddaaaayyyy

!

fickle fan wrote:

DaBoss wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

benal13 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:
not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats,
+ I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW
just answer the question what assets are you on about simples

I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP

Well i would agree with you?

Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer.
Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit

So you do agree with my comments earlier that jones was an asset?see you have answered your own question to me before ,very clever girl.

No you didn`t say jones was an asset someone else did. If you look back to the question I asked it was "what assets !" this was a question that you couldn`t answer if you did we could have had a conversation about why some players had been sold. You just resorted to name calling and childish threats and are still doing so rather than calling me a little girl you should ask a grown up about your replys

See your getting all flustered again, i did not call you a little girl ,i said young lady and once again i have not made any threat to you READ MY COMMENTS AGAIN YOUNG LADY.

oh ffs.. give it up children.. schools out.

Its FFFFrrrridddaaaayyyy


!

Read what you said it says girl, and it would appear that when you can,t answer a question you get personal I take speaking to your hand as a threat

givet82 wrote:

Cha'mone MF wrote:

Harwoodstblue wrote:

Cha'mone MF wrote:

Harwoodstblue wrote:

Cha'mone MF wrote:
Brilliant, just when you thought it couldn't get any better, Dumpburn have this dropped on them. Been eating fillet steak for years and now you're gonna have to chow down on corned beef.
.....welcome to the table chumps.

At least we've been eating fillet steak for 34 yrs. You haven't.

And now you're choking on it ! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Brilliant, what a great start to the weekend!

If by some miracle Dingles manage to beat us next season, you'll still have 33 yrs to even catch up. That's some playing catch up.
.
Keep eating the corned beef.

You just keep living in the past my fatherless meths swigging friend, this is the Dawn of a new age and you know it. You are already playing out the scenario of receiving a claret spanking in your tiny mind that's emptier than a hermits address book, and the realisation that you have missed out on millions upon millions of TV revenue just compounds your woe.

And to top it all off after the laboured performance Martin Olsson is going to put in against England tonight the best offer you'll get for him will be a jar of pickled eggs and a book of green shield stamps.

really chamone, i recall our last meeting at turd were he embarassed your defence and hit the bar about 50 times

Hippocroccapig wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

DaBoss wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

benal13 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:
not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats,
+ I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW
just answer the question what assets are you on about simples

I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP

Well i would agree with you?

Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer.
Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit

So you do agree with my comments earlier that jones was an asset?see you have answered your own question to me before ,very clever girl.

No you didn`t say jones was an asset someone else did. If you look back to the question I asked it was "what assets !" this was a question that you couldn`t answer if you did we could have had a conversation about why some players had been sold. You just resorted to name calling and childish threats and are still doing so rather than calling me a little girl you should ask a grown up about your replys

See your getting all flustered again, i did not call you a little girl ,i said young lady and once again i have not made any threat to you READ MY COMMENTS AGAIN YOUNG LADY.

oh ffs.. give it up children.. schools out.

Its FFFFrrrridddaaaayyyy



!

Read what you said it says girl, and it would appear that when you can,t answer a question you get personal I take speaking to your hand as a threat

Talk to the hand is a threat?

Ha ha ha - get a grip

Hippocroccapig wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

DaBoss wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

benal13 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:
not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats,
+ I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW
just answer the question what assets are you on about simples

I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP

Well i would agree with you?

Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer.
Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit

So you do agree with my comments earlier that jones was an asset?see you have answered your own question to me before ,very clever girl.

No you didn`t say jones was an asset someone else did. If you look back to the question I asked it was "what assets !" this was a question that you couldn`t answer if you did we could have had a conversation about why some players had been sold. You just resorted to name calling and childish threats and are still doing so rather than calling me a little girl you should ask a grown up about your replys

See your getting all flustered again, i did not call you a little girl ,i said young lady and once again i have not made any threat to you READ MY COMMENTS AGAIN YOUNG LADY.

oh ffs.. give it up children.. schools out.

Its FFFFrrrridddaaaayyyy



!

Read what you said it says girl, and it would appear that when you can,t answer a question you get personal I take speaking to your hand as a threat

Talk to the hand is a threat?

Ha ha ha - get a grip

DaBoss wrote:
Ignore them fickle fan, facts are much less interesting than random conspiracy theories and buzz words like "asset stripping".

Venky's are incompetent at running a football club and were and still are, badly advised. They aren't asset stripping demons and they HAVE reduced the wage bill and the in turn created a much more sustainable business, but at the cost of relegation and losing experienced players and the fan revolt.

Was it the right decision? It certainly doesn't look like it, especially in light of the extra PL revenues, granted this could not have pre-empted. but the damning evidence of incompetence has been demonstrated more clearly SINCE relegation, with the admittance of the owners that they didn't know you could be relegated and then the "confusion" along with lack of any preparation for the new season and the season ticket debacle.

roverfor60years wrote:
If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits. The next step will be insolvency, unpaid bills – and not just administration but liquidation.
We have fallen off the cliff. I fear the damage Venky’s have wreaked on us, both on and off the field, is irreparable and they show no signs of making any effort to get the club back on track.
Five critical weeks of virtual silence and inactivity, with pre-season preparation now virtually upon us. Four abysmal decisions so far – the elevation of the press officer, the imminent arrival of Shebby the TV pundit, the removal of John Newsome and the apparent retention of Steve Kean – which are just as misguided as all the preceding ones and which give no cause for optimism.
Desai once said her father told her when she took over from him that she had to get seven out of ten decisions correct. So far she has not got one right here.
I think Mick Rathbone is right. There is going to be an even bigger scramble by clubs to get into the Premier League now and the successful ones will have to invest more heavily than ever before to do it. In that scenario we are going to be left among the stragglers, sinking deeper and deeper into obscurity – unless there is some unexpected salvation.
If Venky’s have an ounce of business acumen, they will sell the club without delay for whatever they can get and bank their profits, because soon it will be weighed down in debt, not worth a bean and they will be forced to walk away in disgrace.
On a wider scale, the TV deal just announced is plain crazy. Greedy players will be even greedier, squeezing clubs even harder, and the game in this country is now ripe for plucking (no pun intended).
Crooks already have their fingers in the pie and if the Mafia aren’t already here they soon will be.
The football authorities need to open their eyes to the dangers. Italy has already sounded the alarm bells and they will ignore the looming catastrophe at their peril.

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:
The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.

The assets sold being ?

Don t you know?

No I dont so please enlighten me because you must know

No point in enlightening a wet fire read the comments fans put on here and take it in, better still go on the dingles site and talk to your self

WAKE UP tickle tan

So you admit then you just come on here, state assets are being sold, Haven't a clue what assets have been sold, can`t tell me what assets you mean then tell me to wake up because everyone knows what assets have been sold.
Just to make it easy for you , a simple question just list what assets have been sold so we all are very clear what you mean

ONCE again no point enlightening a WET FIRE .time for you to talk to the hand.

So you cant state which assets have been sold and revert to name calling and threats wow

Dont be so sensitive, just because i cant be bothered to waist any more time installing reason with you, deary me we are sensitive aren't we.

not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats,
+ I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, then you threaten WOW
just answer the question what assets are you on about simples

DEAR OH DEAR WHAT THREAT? ha,ha a Very vERY sensitive little bunny we have.ha,Ha

fickle fan wrote:

Hippocroccapig wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

DaBoss wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

benal13 wrote:

fickle fan wrote: not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats, + I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW just answer the question what assets are you on about simples

I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP

Well i would agree with you?

Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer. Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit

So you do agree with my comments earlier that jones was an asset?see you have answered your own question to me before ,very clever girl.

No you didn`t say jones was an asset someone else did. If you look back to the question I asked it was "what assets !" this was a question that you couldn`t answer if you did we could have had a conversation about why some players had been sold. You just resorted to name calling and childish threats and are still doing so rather than calling me a little girl you should ask a grown up about your replys

See your getting all flustered again, i did not call you a little girl ,i said young lady and once again i have not made any threat to you READ MY COMMENTS AGAIN YOUNG LADY.

oh ffs.. give it up children.. schools out. Its FFFFrrrridddaaaayyyy !

Read what you said it says girl, and it would appear that when you can,t answer a question you get personal I take speaking to your hand as a threat

Talk to the hand is a threat? Ha ha ha - get a grip

No not get a grip stop changing the subject and answer the 1st point I raised

Cha'mone MF wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote: The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.

The assets sold being ?

Don t you know?

No I dont so please enlighten me because you must know

No point in enlightening a wet fire read the comments fans put on here and take it in, better still go on the dingles site and talk to your self

WAKE UP tickle tan

So you admit then you just come on here, state assets are being sold, Haven't a clue what assets have been sold, can`t tell me what assets you mean then tell me to wake up because everyone knows what assets have been sold. Just to make it easy for you , a simple question just list what assets have been sold so we all are very clear what you mean

ONCE again no point enlightening a WET FIRE .time for you to talk to the hand.

So you cant state which assets have been sold and revert to name calling and threats wow

Dont be so sensitive, just because i cant be bothered to waist any more time installing reason with you, deary me we are sensitive aren't we.

not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats, + I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, then you threaten WOW just answer the question what assets are you on about simples

DEAR OH DEAR WHAT THREAT? ha,ha a Very vERY sensitive little bunny we have.ha,Ha

Will you two pack it in, I'm trying to dish out some abuse about Dumpburn here and im being overlooked because of your page hogging homo domestic !!!

Cha'mone MF wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:
The reality is mick these bunch of crooks running BRFC have no ambition as they have shown for the last 18months and they don't intend to invest the needed money, big time to get BRFC back in the PL,they talk lies and deceit while they pick at whats left of the BRFC carcass like vultures would,your spot on though they have missed the big money band wagon thats rolled in to town that's now planned for those teams in the PL who had the for sight to spend big and not sell off their clubs assets.

The assets sold being ?

Don t you know?

No I dont so please enlighten me because you must know

No point in enlightening a wet fire read the comments fans put on here and take it in, better still go on the dingles site and talk to your self

WAKE UP tickle tan

So you admit then you just come on here, state assets are being sold, Haven't a clue what assets have been sold, can`t tell me what assets you mean then tell me to wake up because everyone knows what assets have been sold.
Just to make it easy for you , a simple question just list what assets have been sold so we all are very clear what you mean

ONCE again no point enlightening a WET FIRE .time for you to talk to the hand.

So you cant state which assets have been sold and revert to name calling and threats wow

Dont be so sensitive, just because i cant be bothered to waist any more time installing reason with you, deary me we are sensitive aren't we.

not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats,
+ I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, then you threaten WOW
just answer the question what assets are you on about simples

DEAR OH DEAR WHAT THREAT? ha,ha a Very vERY sensitive little bunny we have.ha,Ha

Will you two pack it in, I'm trying to dish out some abuse about Dumpburn here and im being overlooked because of your page hogging homo domestic !!!

roverfor60years wrote:
Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious

DaBoss wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

benal13 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:
not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats,
+ I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW
just answer the question what assets are you on about simples

I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP

Well i would agree with you?

Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer.
Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit

quite right.

Asset stripping would be selling the players with the motive of financial benefit, which clearly with the reduction of the wage bill, clearing of debts and funding of new players does not allude to.

Was it the case? Only they know. to believe that is as fact is choice, to state it as fact and ridicule others for not believing it is being 'fallacious' to say the least.

(Toilet paper word of the day - woohoo used in a sentence!)

:)

StLedge wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

Hippocroccapig wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

DaBoss wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

benal13 wrote:

fickle fan wrote: not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats, + I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW just answer the question what assets are you on about simples

I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP

Well i would agree with you?

Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer. Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit

So you do agree with my comments earlier that jones was an asset?see you have answered your own question to me before ,very clever girl.

No you didn`t say jones was an asset someone else did. If you look back to the question I asked it was "what assets !" this was a question that you couldn`t answer if you did we could have had a conversation about why some players had been sold. You just resorted to name calling and childish threats and are still doing so rather than calling me a little girl you should ask a grown up about your replys

See your getting all flustered again, i did not call you a little girl ,i said young lady and once again i have not made any threat to you READ MY COMMENTS AGAIN YOUNG LADY.

oh ffs.. give it up children.. schools out. Its FFFFrrrridddaaaayyyy !

Read what you said it says girl, and it would appear that when you can,t answer a question you get personal I take speaking to your hand as a threat

Talk to the hand is a threat? Ha ha ha - get a grip

No not get a grip stop changing the subject and answer the 1st point I raised

Try reading who posted last.......!

J.C - Rishton wrote:

DaBoss wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

benal13 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:
not sensitive don't like childish schoolboy threats,
+ I raised a point about assets you don`t seem to be able to state what assets you mean, the you threaten WOW
just answer the question what assets are you on about simples

I MAY REGRET THIS BUT WAS PHIL JONES ,SAMBA KALANICH,ECT NOT ASSETS JUST TRYING TO HELP

Well i would agree with you?

Buying and selling players is a massive part of the game. Jones was a massive asset to the club. He signed a new contract which gave him a get out clause, When Man u came in for him there is little chance of him staying even when uncle Jack was around he couldn't keep Shearer.
Samba wanted to go, he wanted to go before as was well documented, trying to make him stay does not sound like cashing in. ST has spent 20m on new players, Explain to me how does that sound like some one trying to profit

quite right.

Asset stripping would be selling the players with the motive of financial benefit, which clearly with the reduction of the wage bill, clearing of debts and funding of new players does not allude to.

Was it the case? Only they know. to believe that is as fact is choice, to state it as fact and ridicule others for not believing it is being 'fallacious' to say the least.

(Toilet paper word of the day - woohoo used in a sentence!)

:)

Da Boss - you are obviously a very positive person and are trying to shine a slightly brighter light on our situation than the actual reality.
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Firstly you keep banging on about "clearing our debt" - why have they done this ? - because they changed BANKS, no other reason.
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Venkys continually REFUSED to clear their dept/put money in that Barclays required and Paul Hunt advised.
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In the end Barclays simply could not work with Venkys (see limiting our bank overdraft that came in 1st Jan 2012).
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In the end Venkys have now banked with Bank of India but back in India - not even a UK branch - so they cleared our over-draft off with Barclays because they could hardly close their account whilst having £5 or 6m outstanding could they.
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Will Bank of India allow Venkys an overdraft on its Rovers account - of course, otherwise they simply wouldnt have opened an account with them - how large will this o/d become - none of us know.
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However, if you are trying to argue that Venkys have put us on a better financial position then you are simply clinging to the "we don't have an overdraft now" like a drowning man grasping at straws.
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Any football economist will tell you that clubs drop between £20-£25m in total revenue once relegated from the PL. Most of this is TV money. Also Rovers season ticket and CORPORATE sales have virtually colapsed so you can guess we are nearer the £25m than the £20m.
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So Venkys have got us relegated by selling our best players and reducing the wage bill but this is pretty much irrelevant as simple maths shows you that we are financially much worse off and in a lower division.
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Like I said, nothing wrong with trying to be positive but don't try to do it by only telling half the financial story, otherwise you just end up sounding like Steve Kean.

roverfor60years wrote:
If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits. The next step will be insolvency, unpaid bills – and not just administration but liquidation.
We have fallen off the cliff. I fear the damage Venky’s have wreaked on us, both on and off the field, is irreparable and they show no signs of making any effort to get the club back on track.
Five critical weeks of virtual silence and inactivity, with pre-season preparation now virtually upon us. Four abysmal decisions so far – the elevation of the press officer, the imminent arrival of Shebby the TV pundit, the removal of John Newsome and the apparent retention of Steve Kean – which are just as misguided as all the preceding ones and which give no cause for optimism.
Desai once said her father told her when she took over from him that she had to get seven out of ten decisions correct. So far she has not got one right here.
I think Mick Rathbone is right. There is going to be an even bigger scramble by clubs to get into the Premier League now and the successful ones will have to invest more heavily than ever before to do it. In that scenario we are going to be left among the stragglers, sinking deeper and deeper into obscurity – unless there is some unexpected salvation.
If Venky’s have an ounce of business acumen, they will sell the club without delay for whatever they can get and bank their profits, because soon it will be weighed down in debt, not worth a bean and they will be forced to walk away in disgrace.
On a wider scale, the TV deal just announced is plain crazy. Greedy players will be even greedier, squeezing clubs even harder, and the game in this country is now ripe for plucking (no pun intended).
Crooks already have their fingers in the pie and if the Mafia aren’t already here they soon will be.
The football authorities need to open their eyes to the dangers. Italy has already sounded the alarm bells and they will ignore the looming catastrophe at their peril.

J.C - Rishton wrote:

roverfor60years wrote:
If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits. The next step will be insolvency, unpaid bills – and not just administration but liquidation.
We have fallen off the cliff. I fear the damage Venky’s have wreaked on us, both on and off the field, is irreparable and they show no signs of making any effort to get the club back on track.
Five critical weeks of virtual silence and inactivity, with pre-season preparation now virtually upon us. Four abysmal decisions so far – the elevation of the press officer, the imminent arrival of Shebby the TV pundit, the removal of John Newsome and the apparent retention of Steve Kean – which are just as misguided as all the preceding ones and which give no cause for optimism.
Desai once said her father told her when she took over from him that she had to get seven out of ten decisions correct. So far she has not got one right here.
I think Mick Rathbone is right. There is going to be an even bigger scramble by clubs to get into the Premier League now and the successful ones will have to invest more heavily than ever before to do it. In that scenario we are going to be left among the stragglers, sinking deeper and deeper into obscurity – unless there is some unexpected salvation.
If Venky’s have an ounce of business acumen, they will sell the club without delay for whatever they can get and bank their profits, because soon it will be weighed down in debt, not worth a bean and they will be forced to walk away in disgrace.
On a wider scale, the TV deal just announced is plain crazy. Greedy players will be even greedier, squeezing clubs even harder, and the game in this country is now ripe for plucking (no pun intended).
Crooks already have their fingers in the pie and if the Mafia aren’t already here they soon will be.
The football authorities need to open their eyes to the dangers. Italy has already sounded the alarm bells and they will ignore the looming catastrophe at their peril.

Excellent post and a good insight into Rovers current situation (DaBoss take note !).
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Off the field, we continue to be a complete and utter shambles and financially, its hard to really know how bad things are but I very much suspect that virtually ALL payer sales from this window will go to plug the shortfall in our accounts and non on player purchases which will, in turn will mean a long hard struggle against relegation with a very thin squad and inept manager.
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I honestly think that ALL the "B" are gonna struggle in the championship this season -

I predict Blackburn, Blackpool, Burnley, Barnsley and Bristol City will ALL be in the bottom half of the division come the end of the season.

(and before Burnley fans come on having a dig for me putting them in this group) I think Burnley finished mid table last season and have now sold their best player so straight away they have a tougher job and also they have had an £8m reduction in their TV income - a fact that never seems to get mentioned by Burnley fans but must have an impact on their playing staff/situation. They have also just signed a non-league youngster (I'm sure they'll sign some more sesoned players as well) but it hardly smacks of "ambition", espectially when Cardiff anounced only last week that their owners will be investing £100m in club infra structure and players.

roverfor60years wrote:
I'm not going to further clog things up by showing the previous comments, but spot on, J.C-Rishton. Absolutely correct.
I wonder if Bank of India are concerned about a default on the debt, just as Barclays were? At the last count I believe our debt was over £26 million.

DaBoss wrote:
ignore the quote btw, stupid phone and stupid clogged up with adverts LET site with its stupid flash and scripts.

DaBoss wrote:
No-one can deny the club is in a bad place, whether its the worst its ever been is open to interpretation, but the baseless "mafia" connections, asset stripping et al makes for comical reading for any dingle.

The only thing thats gone on here is bad management due to incompetence and bad advice by greedy agents (when have you known agents to be otherwise?) and possibly deliberate miscommunication and certainly of recent, lack of it.

Where we end up next season is in the hands of Venkys and what they decide to do next.

DaBoss wrote:
No-one can deny the club is in a bad place, whether its the worst its ever been is open to interpretation, but the baseless "mafia" connections, asset stripping et al makes for comical reading for any dingle.

The only thing thats gone on here is bad management due to incompetence and bad advice by greedy agents (when have you known agents to be otherwise?) and possibly deliberate miscommunication and certainly of recent, lack of it.

Where we end up next season is in the hands of Venkys and what they decide to do next.

nontetleysdog wrote:

DaBoss wrote:
No-one can deny the club is in a bad place, whether its the worst its ever been is open to interpretation, but the baseless "mafia" connections, asset stripping et al makes for comical reading for any dingle.

The only thing thats gone on here is bad management due to incompetence and bad advice by greedy agents (when have you known agents to be otherwise?) and possibly deliberate miscommunication and certainly of recent, lack of it.

Where we end up next season is in the hands of Venkys and what they decide to do next.

Got to agree with you on this one boss !!! Trampburn R*vers is in a very bad place.......smack bang right in the middle of a massive caravan site.

And if things were not bad enough it has come to light that you are skint and on the verge of recruiting one of the biggest crooks to ever come out of scotland in Colin ( i am not a conman honest ) Hendry.

roverfor60years wrote:
Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious

BashirShah wrote:

DaBoss wrote:
ignore the quote btw, stupid phone and stupid clogged up with adverts LET site with its stupid flash and scripts.

If you are using an Android phone and have Ice cream Sandwich on it, install and use Chrome, if you dont have ICS, try using Dolphin or Boat browser and turn flash to ON DEMAND only.

If you're on an iPhone you should nt be having any problems posting.

Hope that helps.

nontetleysdog wrote:

DaBoss wrote:
No-one can deny the club is in a bad place, whether its the worst its ever been is open to interpretation, but the baseless "mafia" connections, asset stripping et al makes for comical reading for any dingle.

The only thing thats gone on here is bad management due to incompetence and bad advice by greedy agents (when have you known agents to be otherwise?) and possibly deliberate miscommunication and certainly of recent, lack of it.

Where we end up next season is in the hands of Venkys and what they decide to do next.

Got to agree with you on this one boss !!! Trampburn R*vers is in a very bad place.......smack bang right in the middle of a massive caravan site.

And if things were not bad enough it has come to light that you are skint and on the verge of recruiting one of the biggest crooks to ever come out of scotland in Colin ( i am not a conman honest ) Hendry.

fickle fan wrote:

roverfor60years wrote:
Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious

Which bit of what I have said is garbage.

please quote.!
also
roverfor60years wrote:
If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits

please describe what profit they have so far made from the club.
not just a random statement they have made profits.
also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC

Harwoodstblue wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

roverfor60years wrote:
Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious

Which bit of what I have said is garbage.

please quote.!
also
roverfor60years wrote:
If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits

please describe what profit they have so far made from the club.
not just a random statement they have made profits.
also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC

Bu**er off FF, we've heard enough of your gob today.

fickle fan wrote:

Harwoodstblue wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

roverfor60years wrote:
Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious

Which bit of what I have said is garbage.

please quote.!
also
roverfor60years wrote:
If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits

please describe what profit they have so far made from the club.
not just a random statement they have made profits.
also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC

Bu**er off FF, we've heard enough of your gob today.

rather than swearing and getting abusive I have raised one point so perhaps you could answer

how have venkys made any money from BRFC

Harwoodstblue wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

Harwoodstblue wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

roverfor60years wrote:
Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious

Which bit of what I have said is garbage.

please quote.!
also
roverfor60years wrote:
If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits

please describe what profit they have so far made from the club.
not just a random statement they have made profits.
also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC

Bu**er off FF, we've heard enough of your gob today.

rather than swearing and getting abusive I have raised one point so perhaps you could answer

how have venkys made any money from BRFC

Just leave it alone, give it a rest . have you nothing better to do?

fickle fan wrote:

Harwoodstblue wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

Harwoodstblue wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

roverfor60years wrote:
Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious

Which bit of what I have said is garbage.

please quote.!
also
roverfor60years wrote:
If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits

please describe what profit they have so far made from the club.
not just a random statement they have made profits.
also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC

Bu**er off FF, we've heard enough of your gob today.

rather than swearing and getting abusive I have raised one point so perhaps you could answer

how have venkys made any money from BRFC

Just leave it alone, give it a rest . have you nothing better to do?

So i raise a point you cant provide a sensible reasoned response so I have to give it a rest after you have sworn at me.


roverfor60years wrote: If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits
If this comment cannot be backed up and show where the profits have been made why don`t you suggest that he gives it a rest.

Harwoodstblue wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

Harwoodstblue wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

Harwoodstblue wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

roverfor60years wrote:
Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious

Which bit of what I have said is garbage.

please quote.!
also
roverfor60years wrote:
If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits

please describe what profit they have so far made from the club.
not just a random statement they have made profits.
also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC

Bu**er off FF, we've heard enough of your gob today.

rather than swearing and getting abusive I have raised one point so perhaps you could answer

how have venkys made any money from BRFC

Just leave it alone, give it a rest . have you nothing better to do?

So i raise a point you cant provide a sensible reasoned response so I have to give it a rest after you have sworn at me.


roverfor60years wrote: If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits
If this comment cannot be backed up and show where the profits have been made why don`t you suggest that he gives it a rest.

There are 120 comments on here today and you must have made half of them. I repeat, give it a rest. goodbye.

DaBoss wrote:

roverfor60years wrote:
I'm not going to further clog things up by showing the previous comments, but spot on, J.C-Rishton. Absolutely correct.
I wonder if Bank of India are concerned about a default on the debt, just as Barclays were? At the last count I believe our debt was over £26 million.

I don't remember ever saying we were financially sound, I said sustainable business which it is whatever your opinions may be.

As I've said before, those who live in the aconspiracy and we're all doomed world need to maybe come to terms with the fact that the club was sold out and is no longer your concern, cern, as it matters little to the owners whether you believe they are working in the interests of the club or not.

Regardless of the efforts made by BRSIT and others, it is extremely delusional to believe the fans can ever own or run the club, you've more chance of Venky's asking the fans for advice (again).

I have to wonder J C Rishton and all those that believe that the club is headed for destruction and that its all over, why are you still here? if you really believe that the club is a goner, surely you've better use of your time concentrating on a club/team that isnt mistreating the fans the way you lot keep going on about?

Unless you are really that deluded to believe that Venkys will eventually hand over the club to the fans or end up in administration to be bought back.. in which case even that was remotely possible, it would be years away.

There seems to be a last of the summer wine grump brigade on here that just loves to lament over and over again about how they are being mistreated as fans and how its all over for Rovers... and then you wonder why dingles love coming on here to have a pop at the easy targets.

Its like shooting chickens in a barrel.

fickle fan wrote:

roverfor60years wrote:
Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious

Which bit of what I have said is garbage.

please quote.!
also
roverfor60years wrote:
If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits

please describe what profit they have so far made from the club.
not just a random statement they have made profits.
also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC

ossyrover1 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

roverfor60years wrote:
Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious

Which bit of what I have said is garbage.

please quote.!
also
roverfor60years wrote:
If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits

please describe what profit they have so far made from the club.
not just a random statement they have made profits.
also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC

are you agnew by any chance

French Rover wrote:
Danny Murphy being linked with signing for us......? Does he belong to the infamous agency we all know and love so well.. at any other time I would say that he would be a fair signing...

Dr Zinc wrote:

DaBoss wrote:

roverfor60years wrote:
I'm not going to further clog things up by showing the previous comments, but spot on, J.C-Rishton. Absolutely correct.
I wonder if Bank of India are concerned about a default on the debt, just as Barclays were? At the last count I believe our debt was over £26 million.

I don't remember ever saying we were financially sound, I said sustainable business which it is whatever your opinions may be.

As I've said before, those who live in the aconspiracy and we're all doomed world need to maybe come to terms with the fact that the club was sold out and is no longer your concern, cern, as it matters little to the owners whether you believe they are working in the interests of the club or not.

Regardless of the efforts made by BRSIT and others, it is extremely delusional to believe the fans can ever own or run the club, you've more chance of Venky's asking the fans for advice (again).

I have to wonder J C Rishton and all those that believe that the club is headed for destruction and that its all over, why are you still here? if you really believe that the club is a goner, surely you've better use of your time concentrating on a club/team that isnt mistreating the fans the way you lot keep going on about?

Unless you are really that deluded to believe that Venkys will eventually hand over the club to the fans or end up in administration to be bought back.. in which case even that was remotely possible, it would be years away.

There seems to be a last of the summer wine grump brigade on here that just loves to lament over and over again about how they are being mistreated as fans and how its all over for Rovers... and then you wonder why dingles love coming on here to have a pop at the easy targets.

Its like shooting chickens in a barrel.

DaBoss, you do appear to be very assured by Venkys business motives, so much so that you have burnley fans agreeing with you.

Venkys have so far, sold the majority of Blackburns 'prized assets'; their best players and replaced them with cheap inferior ones

They have sacked experienced backroom staff and simply not replaced them

Now, this may well be a business model based around economising
but who gives a rats arse !
This is a footall club that is being driven into the ground
by very successful business people whom you label 'ill-informed'

There is just as much an argument for some of the more outlandish theories on here as their is your argument full of woolly pseudo-intellect concerned only with enhancing your self esteem through some sort of one-up-manship

fickle fan wrote:

ossyrover1 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

roverfor60years wrote:
Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious

Which bit of what I have said is garbage.

please quote.!
also
roverfor60years wrote:
If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits

please describe what profit they have so far made from the club.
not just a random statement they have made profits.
also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC

are you agnew by any chance

are you agnew by any chance

rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit

ossyrover1 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

ossyrover1 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

roverfor60years wrote:
Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious

Which bit of what I have said is garbage.

please quote.!
also
roverfor60years wrote:
If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits

please describe what profit they have so far made from the club.
not just a random statement they have made profits.
also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC

are you agnew by any chance

are you agnew by any chance

rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit

whats silly about it. i asked you a question. i'll ask again are you agnew ?. and by the way i didnt say anything about venky's.

fickle fan wrote:

ossyrover1 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

ossyrover1 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

roverfor60years wrote: Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious

Which bit of what I have said is garbage. please quote.! also roverfor60years wrote: If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits please describe what profit they have so far made from the club. not just a random statement they have made profits. also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC

are you agnew by any chance

are you agnew by any chance rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit

whats silly about it. i asked you a question. i'll ask again are you agnew ?. and by the way i didnt say anything about venky's.

It is silly because rather than comment on the facts you somehow try to pretend that I must be connected people who are running the club. I didn,t at any time suggest you said anything about the Venkys read my comment carefully I just asked a question, which still remains unanswered. So to repeat my post. "rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit"

fickle fan wrote:

ossyrover1 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

ossyrover1 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

roverfor60years wrote:
Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious

Which bit of what I have said is garbage.

please quote.!
also
roverfor60years wrote:
If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits

please describe what profit they have so far made from the club.
not just a random statement they have made profits.
also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC

are you agnew by any chance

are you agnew by any chance

rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit

whats silly about it. i asked you a question. i'll ask again are you agnew ?. and by the way i didnt say anything about venky's.

It is silly because rather than comment on the facts you somehow try to pretend that I must be connected people who are running the club.
I didn,t at any time suggest you said anything about the Venkys read my comment carefully I just asked a question, which still remains unanswered. So to repeat my post. "rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit"

ossyrover1 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

ossyrover1 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

ossyrover1 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

roverfor60years wrote:
Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious

Which bit of what I have said is garbage.

please quote.!
also
roverfor60years wrote:
If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits

please describe what profit they have so far made from the club.
not just a random statement they have made profits.
also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC

are you agnew by any chance

are you agnew by any chance

rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit

whats silly about it. i asked you a question. i'll ask again are you agnew ?. and by the way i didnt say anything about venky's.

It is silly because rather than comment on the facts you somehow try to pretend that I must be connected people who are running the club.
I didn,t at any time suggest you said anything about the Venkys read my comment carefully I just asked a question, which still remains unanswered. So to repeat my post. "rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit"

if you say i didnt say anything about venky's why should i explain how they made a profit, if they did, i dont know. i just think you are a new poster trying to wind up rovers fans hence the agnew remark. your questions have probably been answered countless times over the last few months if you can be bothered to check old stories.

Harwoodstblue wrote:

ossyrover1 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

ossyrover1 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

ossyrover1 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

roverfor60years wrote:
Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious

Which bit of what I have said is garbage.

please quote.!
also
roverfor60years wrote:
If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits

please describe what profit they have so far made from the club.
not just a random statement they have made profits.
also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC

are you agnew by any chance

are you agnew by any chance

rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit

whats silly about it. i asked you a question. i'll ask again are you agnew ?. and by the way i didnt say anything about venky's.

It is silly because rather than comment on the facts you somehow try to pretend that I must be connected people who are running the club.
I didn,t at any time suggest you said anything about the Venkys read my comment carefully I just asked a question, which still remains unanswered. So to repeat my post. "rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit"

if you say i didnt say anything about venky's why should i explain how they made a profit, if they did, i dont know. i just think you are a new poster trying to wind up rovers fans hence the agnew remark. your questions have probably been answered countless times over the last few months if you can be bothered to check old stories.

FF was on here all yesterday and was just after an argument with anyone who would take he/her on.....Ignore.

samsno2millfan wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

ossyrover1 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

ossyrover1 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

roverfor60years wrote: Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious

Which bit of what I have said is garbage. please quote.! also roverfor60years wrote: If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits please describe what profit they have so far made from the club. not just a random statement they have made profits. also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC

are you agnew by any chance

are you agnew by any chance rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit

whats silly about it. i asked you a question. i'll ask again are you agnew ?. and by the way i didnt say anything about venky's.

It is silly because rather than comment on the facts you somehow try to pretend that I must be connected people who are running the club. I didn,t at any time suggest you said anything about the Venkys read my comment carefully I just asked a question, which still remains unanswered. So to repeat my post. "rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit"

This year's accounts will make interesting reading - not something you'd hear many football supporters saying.

The player sales and comparative lack of investment in replacements - Desperate was the only significant outlay -should have helped them break even this year at least.

The drastic cost cutting exercise throughout the season suggests they made a bigger **** up of it than in the first ten months of their tenure when losses increased by 900+% to almost £19m

I maintain they have suddenly realised this football lark is an expensive and non-profit making business. They are afraid, quite rightly, they could lose a shed load of money. The potential for this to spiral out of control has increased dramatically with relegation and a 60-70% drop in income.

Staying up on the cheap was never going to happen - they should have realised that after the narrow squeek with relegation the previous year. But did they? No. They were not prepared to throw what they would consider good money after bad in a high risk policy to maintain the PL income; especially when they still see the club losing money, even in the PL.

So, what do you do? If you're not prepared to speculate to accumulate, the only way forward is to reduce costs, chief amongst which is staff.

It's pretty obvious Paul Hunt was not sacked for "financial reasons" as was claimed, more in a fit of pique following his damning letter, but it was a handy bonus.

Saying they want to keep the squad together is the equivalent to a marketing ploy. They will welcome
the reductions in the wage bill from the highest earning players jumping ship. They can always stand by their claim whilst blaming it on the player(s) insisting they play at the highest level or it being pointless keeping an unhappy player; the usual garbage.

I can't see the logic in the accusation they are in it to run off with the parachute payments. How does reducing the possible amount to run off with by 60-70% - that's 60-70% of a far greater amount with the new TV deal - constitute being a good idea?

They are just trying to avoid losing money. The total ineptitude they have shown has resulted in them having more reason to be worried - or "confused" as they would call it.

The figures would appear to be suggesting the losses have not decreased and the fire sale, combined with the culling of the staff, is well under way.

It is amazing they have presided over an unmittigated disaster using this corner shop, fingers crossed policy only to maintain and expand on it.

Shebby Singh for god's sake, Hendry if he turns up - legend whilst a player he may be but there are too many reasons not to sign him - principally football but plenty of baggage as well, Agnew of course, 7th Dan as ground manager and a cut price secretary, no doubt.

I fancy those hoping we get out of the Championship may have their wish granted.

ossyrover1 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

ossyrover1 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

ossyrover1 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

roverfor60years wrote:
Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious

Which bit of what I have said is garbage.

please quote.!
also
roverfor60years wrote:
If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits

please describe what profit they have so far made from the club.
not just a random statement they have made profits.
also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC

are you agnew by any chance

are you agnew by any chance

rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit

whats silly about it. i asked you a question. i'll ask again are you agnew ?. and by the way i didnt say anything about venky's.

It is silly because rather than comment on the facts you somehow try to pretend that I must be connected people who are running the club.
I didn,t at any time suggest you said anything about the Venkys read my comment carefully I just asked a question, which still remains unanswered. So to repeat my post. "rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit"

if you say i didnt say anything about venky's why should i explain how they made a profit, if they did, i dont know. i just think you are a new poster trying to wind up rovers fans hence the agnew remark. your questions have probably been answered countless times over the last few months if you can be bothered to check old stories.

fickle fan wrote:

samsno2millfan wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

ossyrover1 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

ossyrover1 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

roverfor60years wrote: Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious

Which bit of what I have said is garbage. please quote.! also roverfor60years wrote: If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits please describe what profit they have so far made from the club. not just a random statement they have made profits. also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC

are you agnew by any chance

are you agnew by any chance rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit

whats silly about it. i asked you a question. i'll ask again are you agnew ?. and by the way i didnt say anything about venky's.

It is silly because rather than comment on the facts you somehow try to pretend that I must be connected people who are running the club. I didn,t at any time suggest you said anything about the Venkys read my comment carefully I just asked a question, which still remains unanswered. So to repeat my post. "rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit"

This year's accounts will make interesting reading - not something you'd hear many football supporters saying. The player sales and comparative lack of investment in replacements - Desperate was the only significant outlay -should have helped them break even this year at least. The drastic cost cutting exercise throughout the season suggests they made a bigger **** up of it than in the first ten months of their tenure when losses increased by 900+% to almost £19m I maintain they have suddenly realised this football lark is an expensive and non-profit making business. They are afraid, quite rightly, they could lose a shed load of money. The potential for this to spiral out of control has increased dramatically with relegation and a 60-70% drop in income. Staying up on the cheap was never going to happen - they should have realised that after the narrow squeek with relegation the previous year. But did they? No. They were not prepared to throw what they would consider good money after bad in a high risk policy to maintain the PL income; especially when they still see the club losing money, even in the PL. So, what do you do? If you're not prepared to speculate to accumulate, the only way forward is to reduce costs, chief amongst which is staff. It's pretty obvious Paul Hunt was not sacked for "financial reasons" as was claimed, more in a fit of pique following his damning letter, but it was a handy bonus. Saying they want to keep the squad together is the equivalent to a marketing ploy. They will welcome the reductions in the wage bill from the highest earning players jumping ship. They can always stand by their claim whilst blaming it on the player(s) insisting they play at the highest level or it being pointless keeping an unhappy player; the usual garbage. I can't see the logic in the accusation they are in it to run off with the parachute payments. How does reducing the possible amount to run off with by 60-70% - that's 60-70% of a far greater amount with the new TV deal - constitute being a good idea? They are just trying to avoid losing money. The total ineptitude they have shown has resulted in them having more reason to be worried - or "confused" as they would call it. The figures would appear to be suggesting the losses have not decreased and the fire sale, combined with the culling of the staff, is well under way. It is amazing they have presided over an unmittigated disaster using this corner shop, fingers crossed policy only to maintain and expand on it. Shebby Singh for god's sake, Hendry if he turns up - legend whilst a player he may be but there are too many reasons not to sign him - principally football but plenty of baggage as well, Agnew of course, 7th Dan as ground manager and a cut price secretary, no doubt. I fancy those hoping we get out of the Championship may have their wish granted.

Whilst the accounts may or may not show as you suggest a break even, it would be still be long way from showing profits when you take into consideration the capital outlay on purchasing the club which had an outstanding liability of the overdraft. To realize a profit , the club would have to be sold at a price that would exceed outlay + ongoing p&l or take money out of the club on an annual basis similar to what has happened at Blackpool, as over 20m was re invested in new players and action appears to have been taken to service the overdraft it is hard to see how any profit on investment has been made.

samsno2millfan wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

samsno2millfan wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

ossyrover1 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

ossyrover1 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

roverfor60years wrote: Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious

Which bit of what I have said is garbage. please quote.! also roverfor60years wrote: If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits please describe what profit they have so far made from the club. not just a random statement they have made profits. also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC

are you agnew by any chance

are you agnew by any chance rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit

whats silly about it. i asked you a question. i'll ask again are you agnew ?. and by the way i didnt say anything about venky's.

It is silly because rather than comment on the facts you somehow try to pretend that I must be connected people who are running the club. I didn,t at any time suggest you said anything about the Venkys read my comment carefully I just asked a question, which still remains unanswered. So to repeat my post. "rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit"

This year's accounts will make interesting reading - not something you'd hear many football supporters saying. The player sales and comparative lack of investment in replacements - Desperate was the only significant outlay -should have helped them break even this year at least. The drastic cost cutting exercise throughout the season suggests they made a bigger **** up of it than in the first ten months of their tenure when losses increased by 900+% to almost £19m I maintain they have suddenly realised this football lark is an expensive and non-profit making business. They are afraid, quite rightly, they could lose a shed load of money. The potential for this to spiral out of control has increased dramatically with relegation and a 60-70% drop in income. Staying up on the cheap was never going to happen - they should have realised that after the narrow squeek with relegation the previous year. But did they? No. They were not prepared to throw what they would consider good money after bad in a high risk policy to maintain the PL income; especially when they still see the club losing money, even in the PL. So, what do you do? If you're not prepared to speculate to accumulate, the only way forward is to reduce costs, chief amongst which is staff. It's pretty obvious Paul Hunt was not sacked for "financial reasons" as was claimed, more in a fit of pique following his damning letter, but it was a handy bonus. Saying they want to keep the squad together is the equivalent to a marketing ploy. They will welcome the reductions in the wage bill from the highest earning players jumping ship. They can always stand by their claim whilst blaming it on the player(s) insisting they play at the highest level or it being pointless keeping an unhappy player; the usual garbage. I can't see the logic in the accusation they are in it to run off with the parachute payments. How does reducing the possible amount to run off with by 60-70% - that's 60-70% of a far greater amount with the new TV deal - constitute being a good idea? They are just trying to avoid losing money. The total ineptitude they have shown has resulted in them having more reason to be worried - or "confused" as they would call it. The figures would appear to be suggesting the losses have not decreased and the fire sale, combined with the culling of the staff, is well under way. It is amazing they have presided over an unmittigated disaster using this corner shop, fingers crossed policy only to maintain and expand on it. Shebby Singh for god's sake, Hendry if he turns up - legend whilst a player he may be but there are too many reasons not to sign him - principally football but plenty of baggage as well, Agnew of course, 7th Dan as ground manager and a cut price secretary, no doubt. I fancy those hoping we get out of the Championship may have their wish granted.

Whilst the accounts may or may not show as you suggest a break even, it would be still be long way from showing profits when you take into consideration the capital outlay on purchasing the club which had an outstanding liability of the overdraft. To realize a profit , the club would have to be sold at a price that would exceed outlay + ongoing p&l or take money out of the club on an annual basis similar to what has happened at Blackpool, as over 20m was re invested in new players and action appears to have been taken to service the overdraft it is hard to see how any profit on investment has been made.

I think that's what I was saying; despite their policies, the books will NOT show a profit - quite the opposite.

They have realised that and are cutting any cost possible.

Making a profit is not their priority; it would be totally unrealistic, even they will know that by now. The are concentrating on minimising losses.

fickle fan wrote:

samsno2millfan wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

samsno2millfan wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

ossyrover1 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

ossyrover1 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

roverfor60years wrote: Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious

Which bit of what I have said is garbage. please quote.! also roverfor60years wrote: If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits please describe what profit they have so far made from the club. not just a random statement they have made profits. also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC

are you agnew by any chance

are you agnew by any chance rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit

whats silly about it. i asked you a question. i'll ask again are you agnew ?. and by the way i didnt say anything about venky's.

It is silly because rather than comment on the facts you somehow try to pretend that I must be connected people who are running the club. I didn,t at any time suggest you said anything about the Venkys read my comment carefully I just asked a question, which still remains unanswered. So to repeat my post. "rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit"

This year's accounts will make interesting reading - not something you'd hear many football supporters saying. The player sales and comparative lack of investment in replacements - Desperate was the only significant outlay -should have helped them break even this year at least. The drastic cost cutting exercise throughout the season suggests they made a bigger **** up of it than in the first ten months of their tenure when losses increased by 900+% to almost £19m I maintain they have suddenly realised this football lark is an expensive and non-profit making business. They are afraid, quite rightly, they could lose a shed load of money. The potential for this to spiral out of control has increased dramatically with relegation and a 60-70% drop in income. Staying up on the cheap was never going to happen - they should have realised that after the narrow squeek with relegation the previous year. But did they? No. They were not prepared to throw what they would consider good money after bad in a high risk policy to maintain the PL income; especially when they still see the club losing money, even in the PL. So, what do you do? If you're not prepared to speculate to accumulate, the only way forward is to reduce costs, chief amongst which is staff. It's pretty obvious Paul Hunt was not sacked for "financial reasons" as was claimed, more in a fit of pique following his damning letter, but it was a handy bonus. Saying they want to keep the squad together is the equivalent to a marketing ploy. They will welcome the reductions in the wage bill from the highest earning players jumping ship. They can always stand by their claim whilst blaming it on the player(s) insisting they play at the highest level or it being pointless keeping an unhappy player; the usual garbage. I can't see the logic in the accusation they are in it to run off with the parachute payments. How does reducing the possible amount to run off with by 60-70% - that's 60-70% of a far greater amount with the new TV deal - constitute being a good idea? They are just trying to avoid losing money. The total ineptitude they have shown has resulted in them having more reason to be worried - or "confused" as they would call it. The figures would appear to be suggesting the losses have not decreased and the fire sale, combined with the culling of the staff, is well under way. It is amazing they have presided over an unmittigated disaster using this corner shop, fingers crossed policy only to maintain and expand on it. Shebby Singh for god's sake, Hendry if he turns up - legend whilst a player he may be but there are too many reasons not to sign him - principally football but plenty of baggage as well, Agnew of course, 7th Dan as ground manager and a cut price secretary, no doubt. I fancy those hoping we get out of the Championship may have their wish granted.

Whilst the accounts may or may not show as you suggest a break even, it would be still be long way from showing profits when you take into consideration the capital outlay on purchasing the club which had an outstanding liability of the overdraft. To realize a profit , the club would have to be sold at a price that would exceed outlay + ongoing p&l or take money out of the club on an annual basis similar to what has happened at Blackpool, as over 20m was re invested in new players and action appears to have been taken to service the overdraft it is hard to see how any profit on investment has been made.

I think that's what I was saying; despite their policies, the books will NOT show a profit - quite the opposite. They have realised that and are cutting any cost possible. Making a profit is not their priority; it would be totally unrealistic, even they will know that by now. The are concentrating on minimising losses.

How would at any time from when Venkys looked at buying the club would it have been realistic to achieve a profit in the short term, Due diligence would have been carried out but nobody can give a value of a player an rely on the valuation to achieve profit. Players values continually change 3 in mind at rovers over the period of the sale are Junior, grella & jones Junior wasnt in the team and looked to be on his way out even over the last year a value cannot be put on him because of his contract. Grella was in training at times so his value could only be judged if he had played, and jones despite having a get out clause would only be worth what sum one was prepared to pay, he also picked up a long term injury. My point to all this is whilst there is ongoing claims of they have made profits or the only thing they came to do is make a fast buck I can`t see or haven`t seen a realistic suggestion on how with the money needed to invest in a club could give them profits. Another point to look at when somebody buys a football club is that the money they use could have been invested elsewhere where returns are safe so when you add what they have spent at BRFC they will probably loose 3 to 4m pa on the money tied up so if they own the club for 3 years that loss would have to be recouped before they have a profit, It was well documented that it took some time to find a buyer for the Walker trust , so I am very interested in how a profit is possible

samsno2millfan wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

samsno2millfan wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

samsno2millfan wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

ossyrover1 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

ossyrover1 wrote:

fickle fan wrote:

roverfor60years wrote: Wrap it up alfa111 and fickle fan - it's garbage and tedious

Which bit of what I have said is garbage. please quote.! also roverfor60years wrote: If Venky’s carry on as they have been doing, they will soon be counting their losses not their savings and profits please describe what profit they have so far made from the club. not just a random statement they have made profits. also have a comment about who made a lot of money from the sale of BRFC

are you agnew by any chance

are you agnew by any chance rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit

whats silly about it. i asked you a question. i'll ask again are you agnew ?. and by the way i didnt say anything about venky's.

It is silly because rather than comment on the facts you somehow try to pretend that I must be connected people who are running the club. I didn,t at any time suggest you said anything about the Venkys read my comment carefully I just asked a question, which still remains unanswered. So to repeat my post. "rather than say something silly why not explain how venkys have made a profit"

This year's accounts will make interesting reading - not something you'd hear many football supporters saying. The player sales and comparative lack of investment in replacements - Desperate was the only significant outlay -should have helped them break even this year at least. The drastic cost cutting exercise throughout the season suggests they made a bigger **** up of it than in the first ten months of their tenure when losses increased by 900+% to almost £19m I maintain they have suddenly realised this football lark is an expensive and non-profit making business. They are afraid, quite rightly, they could lose a shed load of money. The potential for this to spiral out of control has increased dramatically with relegation and a 60-70% drop in income. Staying up on the cheap was never going to happen - they should have realised that after the narrow squeek with relegation the previous year. But did they? No. They were not prepared to throw what they would consider good money after bad in a high risk policy to maintain the PL income; especially when they still see the club losing money, even in the PL. So, what do you do? If you're not prepared to speculate to accumulate, the only way forward is to reduce costs, chief amongst which is staff. It's pretty obvious Paul Hunt was not sacked for "financial reasons" as was claimed, more in a fit of pique following his damning letter, but it was a handy bonus. Saying they want to keep the squad together is the equivalent to a marketing ploy. They will welcome the reductions in the wage bill from the highest earning players jumping ship. They can always stand by their claim whilst blaming it on the player(s) insisting they play at the highest level or it being pointless keeping an unhappy player; the usual garbage. I can't see the logic in the accusation they are in it to run off with the parachute payments. How does reducing the possible amount to run off with by 60-70% - that's 60-70% of a far greater amount with the new TV deal - constitute being a good idea? They are just trying to avoid losing money. The total ineptitude they have shown has resulted in them having more reason to be worried - or "confused" as they would call it. The figures would appear to be suggesting the losses have not decreased and the fire sale, combined with the culling of the staff, is well under way. It is amazing they have presided over an unmittigated disaster using this corner shop, fingers crossed policy only to maintain and expand on it. Shebby Singh for god's sake, Hendry if he turns up - legend whilst a player he may be but there are too many reasons not to sign him - principally football but plenty of baggage as well, Agnew of course, 7th Dan as ground manager and a cut price secretary, no doubt. I fancy those hoping we get out of the Championship may have their wish granted.

Whilst the accounts may or may not show as you suggest a break even, it would be still be long way from showing profits when you take into consideration the capital outlay on purchasing the club which had an outstanding liability of the overdraft. To realize a profit , the club would have to be sold at a price that would exceed outlay + ongoing p&l or take money out of the club on an annual basis similar to what has happened at Blackpool, as over 20m was re invested in new players and action appears to have been taken to service the overdraft it is hard to see how any profit on investment has been made.

I think that's what I was saying; despite their policies, the books will NOT show a profit - quite the opposite. They have realised that and are cutting any cost possible. Making a profit is not their priority; it would be totally unrealistic, even they will know that by now. The are concentrating on minimising losses.

How would at any time from when Venkys looked at buying the club would it have been realistic to achieve a profit in the short term, Due diligence would have been carried out but nobody can give a value of a player an rely on the valuation to achieve profit. Players values continually change 3 in mind at rovers over the period of the sale are Junior, grella & jones Junior wasnt in the team and looked to be on his way out even over the last year a value cannot be put on him because of his contract. Grella was in training at times so his value could only be judged if he had played, and jones despite having a get out clause would only be worth what sum one was prepared to pay, he also picked up a long term injury. My point to all this is whilst there is ongoing claims of they have made profits or the only thing they came to do is make a fast buck I can`t see or haven`t seen a realistic suggestion on how with the money needed to invest in a club could give them profits. Another point to look at when somebody buys a football club is that the money they use could have been invested elsewhere where returns are safe so when you add what they have spent at BRFC they will probably loose 3 to 4m pa on the money tied up so if they own the club for 3 years that loss would have to be recouped before they have a profit, It was well documented that it took some time to find a buyer for the Walker trust , so I am very interested in how a profit is possible

For f@cks sake! I am agreeing with you!

They were never particularly looking to make a profit.

If you recall they said they thought a £3-5m annual input would keep the club going - hardly a statement to make you think they were anticipating MAKING money.

No matter what we may think, looking at the previous years' figures, that is not as unrealistic a figure as it may have seemed. Of course, it would rely on responsible and capable management of the club; something which was in place but which they destroyed within a matter of weeks.

The problem would seem to be, to me, they saw losses sky rocket by £16.5m in the space of 10 months and panicked.

They are now desperately trying to avoid LOSING money NOT, and I repeat, just to make it clear, NOT, make money.

Sheesh!