Kean warns Rovers that the drop clock is ticking (From Lancashire Telegraph)

bypass06 wrote:
It's been ticking, since the moment Venky's arrived.

Norman the Wangler wrote:
what a pathetic little excuse for a man. and our chairman jerome anderson and the ugly brigade from india

liars and thieves. not a moral between them.

madari wrote:
Madari the snake charmer says:

What happenned to the `top ten` finish???hahahahahah

aha!!!

saint.george wrote:

Norman the Wangler wrote:
what a pathetic little excuse for a man. and our chairman jerome anderson and the ugly brigade from india

liars and thieves. not a moral between them.

You are not allowed to say that Jerome Anderson is a money-grabbing, lying cheat, otherwise the comments will be banned.

gudari wrote:
No sh*t sherlock!!!! Hahaha!!

raymond no 1 wrote:
if you went to a restaurant and they served you crap, then you wouldn't go again. the supporters have only themselves to blame. in fact they are as stupid as the manager and the owners.just watch they will still buy their season ticket next year."idiots"

bigste wrote:
The reality is we have 18 points from 24 games. There are 14 games left and we need 22 points to have a chance. Only a gambling man that doesn't do his homework would bet on that one. It is obvious that Kean is just a puppet and is well out of his depth. He has no trust from his team and should have gone before christmas.

French Rover wrote:

bigste wrote:
The reality is we have 18 points from 24 games. There are 14 games left and we need 22 points to have a chance. Only a gambling man that doesn't do his homework would bet on that one. It is obvious that Kean is just a puppet and is well out of his depth. He has no trust from his team and should have gone before christmas.

Doing the homework and maths then with 14 games still to play we still have a much better than evens chance of staying-up.

It will be any three from nine teams I think - Rovers, Wigan, Bolton, Wolves, QPR, WBA and Fulham, Villa and Stoke.

I include the last two because I think that Stoke City will be dragged into the fight as they seem to be struggling now and have only won one of their last eight prem games and are still in the FA Cup and Europe which might divert their attentions) Also Aston Villa are dismal right now and they have not won any of their last 12 (yes 12!) prem games.

So not just us having a bad time of it!

50% of our games are at home and with some better and more consistent home performances then we should be capable of beating QPR, Villa, Sunderland, Norwich and Wigan at Ewood.

Plus we could get maybe a point from either of the two games Man Utd or Liverpool - so that would give us 16 points from our home matches.

If we assume that 40 points is the 'safe' tally needed this season which is quite reasonable - then we would only need a further 6 points from the 7 away games.

We could get those from wins at Wolves and Bolton - crucial games as they are both 6 pointers....and we could also expect at least two points from the games at West Brom and Swansea...but probably zero return at City, Spurs and Chelsea.

So if we can play at the same level as we did against Everton and Fulham then we have the possibility of finishing up on 42 points and staying-up.

The home games are the key to survival plus the away games at Wolves Bolton and West Brom.

If we do fail and fall then at least lets do it in style with all guns blazing - rather than the abject surrender and wimpish display we saw on saturday.

Don't know if Kean can inspire the team to reach those heights and get the results which are needed for survival - but the sad fact is that we don't have any other options at the moment.

We are bad yes but so are all the teams around us....so all hope is not lost yet!

French Rover wrote:

bigste wrote: The reality is we have 18 points from 24 games. There are 14 games left and we need 22 points to have a chance. Only a gambling man that doesn't do his homework would bet on that one. It is obvious that Kean is just a puppet and is well out of his depth. He has no trust from his team and should have gone before christmas.

Doing the homework and maths then with 14 games still to play we still have a much better than evens chance of staying-up. It will be any three from nine teams I think - Rovers, Wigan, Bolton, Wolves, QPR, WBA and Fulham, Villa and Stoke. I include the last two because I think that Stoke City will be dragged into the fight as they seem to be struggling now and have only won one of their last eight prem games and are still in the FA Cup and Europe which might divert their attentions) Also Aston Villa are dismal right now and they have not won any of their last 12 (yes 12!) prem games. So not just us having a bad time of it! 50% of our games are at home and with some better and more consistent home performances then we should be capable of beating QPR, Villa, Sunderland, Norwich and Wigan at Ewood. Plus we could get maybe a point from either of the two games Man Utd or Liverpool - so that would give us 16 points from our home matches. If we assume that 40 points is the 'safe' tally needed this season which is quite reasonable - then we would only need a further 6 points from the 7 away games. We could get those from wins at Wolves and Bolton - crucial games as they are both 6 pointers....and we could also expect at least two points from the games at West Brom and Swansea...but probably zero return at City, Spurs and Chelsea. So if we can play at the same level as we did against Everton and Fulham then we have the possibility of finishing up on 42 points and staying-up. The home games are the key to survival plus the away games at Wolves Bolton and West Brom. If we do fail and fall then at least lets do it in style with all guns blazing - rather than the abject surrender and wimpish display we saw on saturday. Don't know if Kean can inspire the team to reach those heights and get the results which are needed for survival - but the sad fact is that we don't have any other options at the moment. We are bad yes but so are all the teams around us....so all hope is not lost yet!

hasslem hasslem wrote:
who will rid me of this turbulent priest?

Keith Myath wrote:

gudari wrote:
No sh*t sherlock!!!! Hahaha!!

If you bother reading the previous contributions, you'll find that Sherwoodforest already made that comment.

philmoulden wrote:
no need for organised protests anymore ,they will happen naturally ,the bolton game will be like a library compared to home games from now on ,the clock has stopped ticking for me long ago ,protest till i die .

philmoulden wrote:
venkys think where getting promoted to the CHAMPIONSHIP

Dave139 wrote:
When Man U. beat us at Old Trafford the other season with a similar score to that on Saturday
Big Sam appologised to the fans.
This idiot Kean didn't step up to the mark he automatically blamed the team, like he also blames the fans, the staff, the ref. infact he blames everyone but himself for poor results.
Kean it may have escaped your notice but you are the manager of this team so the buck stops with you !!!
You are the lowest of the low, only one word adequately describes people like you
PATHETIC.

Top10StillOn wrote:

Dave139 wrote:
When Man U. beat us at Old Trafford the other season with a similar score to that on Saturday
Big Sam appologised to the fans.
This idiot Kean didn't step up to the mark he automatically blamed the team, like he also blames the fans, the staff, the ref. infact he blames everyone but himself for poor results.
Kean it may have escaped your notice but you are the manager of this team so the buck stops with you !!!
You are the lowest of the low, only one word adequately describes people like you
PATHETIC.

Exactly what I was thinking - he never shoulders any of the blame himself.

Kean quote re Samba "I've decided not to put him in the squad"..."He's one of our key defenders". Absolute genius decision taking into account our atrocious defensive record with no clean sheets, even Orient got a couple. Beggars can't be choosers.

No way can he miss the QPR (esp.now Givet banned). Perhaps we could have done with an experienced Premiership level centre half for the Arsenal game as Samba wasn't included. Someone like Ryan Nelsen, mysteriously released from his contract but nevertheless fit enough for 3rd place Tottenham to believe he can "hit the ground running". Similar situation to Emerton's contract being terminated out of the blue (which comparatively went under the radar as it was the biginning of the season and we had yet to plummet). Our struggles at right back could have been resolved with Emerton who always did a good job there.

This follows the brilliant decision to play one striker at home to a Newcastle side missing Tiote,Cabaye,Demba Ba and Papa Cisse.

Why is Rochina no longer starting, he's one of our best talents?

Why the silence from the owners? Is the LET trying to contact them or even ask Kean about it?

Couple posts said Hoilett lined up for a German club. Which club?

speedie_rovers_legen
d wrote:
Sam allarydce was badly treated by Venkys and kean was lurking in the background this is his third assistant something smells if you ask me!! Where they pushed out by Kean?

Ronaldpetercooper wrote:
Seriously do Venkys not understand that their stupid approach is going to lose them up to £10 million with Hoilet going free to Germany and Samba's value going down. Somebody close should explain this to them very carefully so that they realise just what a mess has been made.

French Rover wrote:

bigste wrote: The reality is we have 18 points from 24 games. There are 14 games left and we need 22 points to have a chance. Only a gambling man that doesn't do his homework would bet on that one. It is obvious that Kean is just a puppet and is well out of his depth. He has no trust from his team and should have gone before christmas.

Doing the homework and maths then with 14 games still to play we still have a much better than evens chance of staying-up. It will be any three from nine teams I think - Rovers, Wigan, Bolton, Wolves, QPR, WBA and Fulham, Villa and Stoke. I include the last two because I think that Stoke City will be dragged into the fight as they seem to be struggling now and have only won one of their last eight prem games and are still in the FA Cup and Europe which might divert their attentions) Also Aston Villa are dismal right now and they have not won any of their last 12 (yes 12!) prem games. So not just us having a bad time of it! 50% of our games are at home and with some better and more consistent home performances then we should be capable of beating QPR, Villa, Sunderland, Norwich and Wigan at Ewood. Plus we could get maybe a point from either of the two games Man Utd or Liverpool - so that would give us 16 points from our home matches. If we assume that 40 points is the 'safe' tally needed this season which is quite reasonable - then we would only need a further 6 points from the 7 away games. We could get those from wins at Wolves and Bolton - crucial games as they are both 6 pointers....and we could also expect at least two points from the games at West Brom and Swansea...but probably zero return at City, Spurs and Chelsea. So if we can play at the same level as we did against Everton and Fulham then we have the possibility of finishing up on 42 points and staying-up. The home games are the key to survival plus the away games at Wolves Bolton and West Brom. If we do fail and fall then at least lets do it in style with all guns blazing - rather than the abject surrender and wimpish display we saw on saturday. Don't know if Kean can inspire the team to reach those heights and get the results which are needed for survival - but the sad fact is that we don't have any other options at the moment. We are bad yes but so are all the teams around us....so all hope is not lost yet!

hasslem hasslem wrote:
oh and lancashire telegraph - you need to grow a pair and tell whoever (can anybody guess?) that it threatening legal action to do one. either that or be more vigilent with your moderators....you are stifling any voice of supporters.
.
not allowed to protest inside ground
not allowed to protest outside ground
not allowed to post on forums.
.
are we living in syria?

ChrisSutton wrote:
I was utterly embaressed this weekend by our performance. Quite honestly, it is the worst I've seen in modern times from a Rovers side. At least when we lost to Man U at OT under Sam that was a GREAT Man U side. Look at the team Arsenal had. They ain't even that good.

What gets me is, by all accounts Venkys really want to succeed with our club and fully believe in Steve Kean. Yet for gods sake, surely they can now see where we are in the league, how close we are to finishing the season relegated, and our 7-1 loss.

How can they look at our current situation and NOT want to make any changes? It just doesn't make sense. Do they honestly think things are going well?

I still don't believe their primary goal is asset stripping, if that was the case we'd have sold of Samba, Hoilett and others in January. So they obviously want to have a go at this. What more evidence do they need that their 'brilliant' manager is anything but?

Kean is now not only the official worst PL manager in history, he's also going for another record, most goals conceded in a season.

We should have got rid of Kean a long long time ago. So I guess we now have no choice but to focus on being 100% positive in matchdays and cross our fingers.

If we go down, Venkys, get the hell out of our club. You've been absolutely thick as sh!t to stick with this kit-man so long, and by doing so have virtually condemned us to a whole season of struggle. Not to mention your lies and broken promises.

VENKYS OUT, and:
-D.K.O

kitchener2 wrote:

French Rover wrote:

bigste wrote: The reality is we have 18 points from 24 games. There are 14 games left and we need 22 points to have a chance. Only a gambling man that doesn't do his homework would bet on that one. It is obvious that Kean is just a puppet and is well out of his depth. He has no trust from his team and should have gone before christmas.

Doing the homework and maths then with 14 games still to play we still have a much better than evens chance of staying-up. It will be any three from nine teams I think - Rovers, Wigan, Bolton, Wolves, QPR, WBA and Fulham, Villa and Stoke. I include the last two because I think that Stoke City will be dragged into the fight as they seem to be struggling now and have only won one of their last eight prem games and are still in the FA Cup and Europe which might divert their attentions) Also Aston Villa are dismal right now and they have not won any of their last 12 (yes 12!) prem games. So not just us having a bad time of it! 50% of our games are at home and with some better and more consistent home performances then we should be capable of beating QPR, Villa, Sunderland, Norwich and Wigan at Ewood. Plus we could get maybe a point from either of the two games Man Utd or Liverpool - so that would give us 16 points from our home matches. If we assume that 40 points is the 'safe' tally needed this season which is quite reasonable - then we would only need a further 6 points from the 7 away games. We could get those from wins at Wolves and Bolton - crucial games as they are both 6 pointers....and we could also expect at least two points from the games at West Brom and Swansea...but probably zero return at City, Spurs and Chelsea. So if we can play at the same level as we did against Everton and Fulham then we have the possibility of finishing up on 42 points and staying-up. The home games are the key to survival plus the away games at Wolves Bolton and West Brom. If we do fail and fall then at least lets do it in style with all guns blazing - rather than the abject surrender and wimpish display we saw on saturday. Don't know if Kean can inspire the team to reach those heights and get the results which are needed for survival - but the sad fact is that we don't have any other options at the moment. We are bad yes but so are all the teams around us....so all hope is not lost yet!

leave the absynthe alone matey, it's starting to rot your brain! You could'nt predict what day it's going to be tomorrow!

eddio wrote:
Looks like Kean's 'masterplan' has finally hit the buffers. His dream of a new 'Busby Babes' has backfired and now he looks a very silly boy indeed. If it wasn't so tragic it would be hilarious.
Roberts, Nelsen, Kalinic, Andrews, Salgado, Samba et al must be pi**ing themselves at this latest embarrassment? Hopeless !

roverfor60years wrote:
Judge me after 12 months, he said.
Verdict: A disaster
Punishment: Banned from football for life.

gleechy wrote:
Mr Kean is just a frustrated puppy. He knows no better, so to keep getting angry at him is pointless. It looks to me like he is a fool that takes what venkys say and passes it on to the fans. There was no cohersion between what he predicted for the transfer window and what happened, and I'd be surprised if he didn't believe that he was going to make early transfers when he said it, but was let down by the money from venks. The only solution is for venks to leave and the only way to ensure that, is to lose financial stability, and advertising potential. They can easily cope with idle threats and critisism, so the only way to bring them in line and acting responsibly is for the Banks to be very very vigilant. I doubt they will lose any sleep when they take the club to financial ruin, they are detatched, like the mansions they bought probably as an expendture on Rovers business plan.

eddio wrote:
Looks like Kean's 'masterplan' has finally hit the buffers. His dream of a new 'Busby Babes' has backfired and now he looks a very silly boy indeed. If it wasn't so tragic it would be hilarious.
Roberts, Nelsen, Kalinic, Andrews, Salgado, Samba et al must be pi**ing themselves at this latest embarrassment? Hopeless !

philmoulden wrote:
jimmy fryatt
was on a diet
he was never scoring go o oals
so they gave him ,medicinal compand
now he scores them ,with his nose

come on without ,come on within ,you,ll not see nothing like don martin

getting ready to go back to the future
was fkn great watching ROVERS back then right up to those chicken fkn bstd twtn cntn farming wnkrs asswps
took over our club ,get every ounce of spirit you got for the club and take it back .

no matter what the weather

BJS wrote:
Allardyce wasn't sacked because we were beaten 7-1 at OT. He'd still have been sacked if we'd won 7-1. Some people still don't get it! A puppet was needed to comply with the owners "plans" and a puppet we got. Same applied to John Williams and Tom Finn who weren't sacked but marginalised to the extent that they were left with little option but to walk away.

French Rover wrote:

kitchener2 wrote:

French Rover wrote:

bigste wrote: The reality is we have 18 points from 24 games. There are 14 games left and we need 22 points to have a chance. Only a gambling man that doesn't do his homework would bet on that one. It is obvious that Kean is just a puppet and is well out of his depth. He has no trust from his team and should have gone before christmas.

Doing the homework and maths then with 14 games still to play we still have a much better than evens chance of staying-up. It will be any three from nine teams I think - Rovers, Wigan, Bolton, Wolves, QPR, WBA and Fulham, Villa and Stoke. I include the last two because I think that Stoke City will be dragged into the fight as they seem to be struggling now and have only won one of their last eight prem games and are still in the FA Cup and Europe which might divert their attentions) Also Aston Villa are dismal right now and they have not won any of their last 12 (yes 12!) prem games. So not just us having a bad time of it! 50% of our games are at home and with some better and more consistent home performances then we should be capable of beating QPR, Villa, Sunderland, Norwich and Wigan at Ewood. Plus we could get maybe a point from either of the two games Man Utd or Liverpool - so that would give us 16 points from our home matches. If we assume that 40 points is the 'safe' tally needed this season which is quite reasonable - then we would only need a further 6 points from the 7 away games. We could get those from wins at Wolves and Bolton - crucial games as they are both 6 pointers....and we could also expect at least two points from the games at West Brom and Swansea...but probably zero return at City, Spurs and Chelsea. So if we can play at the same level as we did against Everton and Fulham then we have the possibility of finishing up on 42 points and staying-up. The home games are the key to survival plus the away games at Wolves Bolton and West Brom. If we do fail and fall then at least lets do it in style with all guns blazing - rather than the abject surrender and wimpish display we saw on saturday. Don't know if Kean can inspire the team to reach those heights and get the results which are needed for survival - but the sad fact is that we don't have any other options at the moment. We are bad yes but so are all the teams around us....so all hope is not lost yet!

leave the absynthe alone matey, it's starting to rot your brain! You could'nt predict what day it's going to be tomorrow!

Sorry Kitch but it's not the Absynthe mate that I wrote that post off, (wish that it were) - it's the fifty years of supporting them man and boy that is in my blood that won't let me believe we will not escape going down despite the obvious and damning evidence to the contrary! So even though reality beckons - I won't write the Rovers off until its mathematically impossible for us to stay-up....and THEN I will try the Absynthe! Care to share a glass or two...?

stefjam wrote:
contact the owners....
corp.shares@venkys.c

om
info@uttarafoods.com


response@venkys.com

Dave139 wrote:
Famous Kean Quotes :- We can finish in the top 10. We will not go down. The drop clock is ticking. Any guesses what the next one will be !!!!!

BJS wrote:

BJS wrote:
Allardyce wasn't sacked because we were beaten 7-1 at OT. He'd still have been sacked if we'd won 7-1. Some people still don't get it! A puppet was needed to comply with the owners "plans" and a puppet we got. Same applied to John Williams and Tom Finn who weren't sacked but marginalised to the extent that they were left with little option but to walk away.

Re- the above. It was a deliberate and calculated approach. Don't fall for the idea that these Indian owners are naive.

Dave139 wrote:
Famous Kean Quotes :-
We can finish in the top 10.
We will not go down.
The drop clock is ticking.

Any guesses what the next one will be !!!!!

stefjam wrote:
contact the owners....
corp.shares@venkys.c

om
info@uttarafoods.com


response@venkys.com

ChrisSutton wrote:
How we must surely regret Big Sam ever appointing Mr. Steve Kean as a 2nd coach.

Who'd have dared thought that this man would go on to have an untouchable job as manager of Rovers.

He truly is the worlds first unsackable manager.
-D.K.O

bypass06 wrote:
It's been ticking, since the moment Venky's arrived.

CARover wrote:

Dave139 wrote:
Famous Kean Quotes :- We can finish in the top 10. We will not go down. The drop clock is ticking. Any guesses what the next one will be !!!!!

History will prove me right!!!

Sherwoodforest wrote:
Anderson subsequently came to further attention for his influence at first Manchester City F.C and then Blackburn Rovers. At Manchester City, between £5 million and £7 million was reported to have been paid in commission to Anderson as part of the recruitment of eight new players in the weeks following the takeover of the club by Thaksin Shinawatra in May 2007.Anderson advised Shinawatra on the takeover, introducing him to Keith Harris (whose firm, Seymour Pierce, handled the deal) and recommending as manager Sven-Göran Eriksson, before his influence waned as the new owners balked at such payments and other figures –notable Kia Joorabchian and Pini Zahavi– became involved. Anderson said: "There is no one else in the world who could have delivered what I did in three weeks. It was my idea to open it up to other agents, and whatever I was paid –and it wasn't as much as City say– they've had it back in spades

Waddock Hunt wrote:
Steve Kean Personal information Full name Stephen Kean Date of birth 30 September 1967 (age 44) Place of birth Glasgow, Scotland Height 5 ft 9&nbs
p;in (1.75 m) Playing position Winger Club information Current club Blackburn Rovers (manager) Senior career* Years Team Apps† ( Gls)† 1985–1987 Celtic 0 (0) 1987 → Swansea City (loan) 4 (0) 1987–1988 Alloa Athletic 1 (0) 1988–1991 Academic a Coimbra ? (?) 1991–1992 Bath City ? (?) 1993–1994 Newbury Town ? (?) Teams managed 2010– Blackburn Rovers * Senior club appearances and goals counted for the domestic league only. † Appearances (Goals). have to laugh at keans playing career,just like you have to laugh at the current shambles down at ewood. Boycotting is the only way to hurt these @ssholes

kitchener2 wrote:

French Rover wrote:

kitchener2 wrote:

French Rover wrote:

bigste wrote: The reality is we have 18 points from 24 games. There are 14 games left and we need 22 points to have a chance. Only a gambling man that doesn't do his homework would bet on that one. It is obvious that Kean is just a puppet and is well out of his depth. He has no trust from his team and should have gone before christmas.

Doing the homework and maths then with 14 games still to play we still have a much better than evens chance of staying-up. It will be any three from nine teams I think - Rovers, Wigan, Bolton, Wolves, QPR, WBA and Fulham, Villa and Stoke. I include the last two because I think that Stoke City will be dragged into the fight as they seem to be struggling now and have only won one of their last eight prem games and are still in the FA Cup and Europe which might divert their attentions) Also Aston Villa are dismal right now and they have not won any of their last 12 (yes 12!) prem games. So not just us having a bad time of it! 50% of our games are at home and with some better and more consistent home performances then we should be capable of beating QPR, Villa, Sunderland, Norwich and Wigan at Ewood. Plus we could get maybe a point from either of the two games Man Utd or Liverpool - so that would give us 16 points from our home matches. If we assume that 40 points is the 'safe' tally needed this season which is quite reasonable - then we would only need a further 6 points from the 7 away games. We could get those from wins at Wolves and Bolton - crucial games as they are both 6 pointers....and we could also expect at least two points from the games at West Brom and Swansea...but probably zero return at City, Spurs and Chelsea. So if we can play at the same level as we did against Everton and Fulham then we have the possibility of finishing up on 42 points and staying-up. The home games are the key to survival plus the away games at Wolves Bolton and West Brom. If we do fail and fall then at least lets do it in style with all guns blazing - rather than the abject surrender and wimpish display we saw on saturday. Don't know if Kean can inspire the team to reach those heights and get the results which are needed for survival - but the sad fact is that we don't have any other options at the moment. We are bad yes but so are all the teams around us....so all hope is not lost yet!

leave the absynthe alone matey, it's starting to rot your brain! You could'nt predict what day it's going to be tomorrow!

Sorry Kitch but it's not the Absynthe mate that I wrote that post off, (wish that it were) - it's the fifty years of supporting them man and boy that is in my blood that won't let me believe we will not escape going down despite the obvious and damning evidence to the contrary! So even though reality beckons - I won't write the Rovers off until its mathematically impossible for us to stay-up....and THEN I will try the Absynthe! Care to share a glass or two...?

Point taken pal, make mine a pint!

alfa111 wrote:

Monsters mum wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

Monsters mum wrote: Why can't all these angry posters on here add themselves to the growing number of fans who are actually trying to make themselves heard in their quest to have Venkys sell? If the organ grinder goes the monkey will follow! The atmosphere in the ground at the Bolton match was not just created by the "protesters" majority of fans were very upset and vocal that night. What will happen if QPR win? (apart from rovers definate relegation) More anger directed at Kean when Venkys should be the main target! I am so angry right now because we the fans can't do a ****** thing about it. We have been taken for fools.

Many of us on here were shouting for kean and venkys out 12months ago, on here and in and out of the ground but were constantly shot down for are views by kean venky patriots and as was stated by some of them be carefull what you wish for?

I know.. but it could'nt get much worse (yet)
What I was hoping was that more would now voice their true opinions instead of sitting on their hands so to speak!

Yep it will get worse M/Mum and it wont stop in the championship, i agree it needs every fan who does go on saturday to show there anger now towards kean and venkys not one or the other they are both responsible for what has happend not the fans.

givet82 wrote:
jimmy jambone,,you complete gobsh!te,,all clubs spend billions now we only spent a fraction of that by a proper fan,,not like you on a brfc website,,look at yourself and your corrupt club,,your best player jayrod will be gone in summer,,were are all your legends like simon garner,o yes thats right nothing good comes from yorkshire o sorry i mean burnley forever in our shadow ,even now ha ha arte et labour,,go and sign on anyway

SimonGarner wrote:
What's really sad about all this is the disablement of the comments section by the LET at weekends, presumably because of some legal threat and the LET not employing a weekend moderating boy. What an odious character Anderson is for getting shirty after the Rovers fans responded to his inflammatory comments in the Sky interview. And LET, you're as bad for not standing up to this. Take a look at any other newspaper comments sections, there is plenty of inflammatory material on there, posted by individuals who are disconnected with the newspaper. The last I heard, individual commentators on a forum do not represent the views of the institution to which the name of the forum is attached. So why are you taking it up the a$$? There is so much going wrong with the Rovers at the moment, it stinks.

French Rover wrote:

bigste wrote:
The reality is we have 18 points from 24 games. There are 14 games left and we need 22 points to have a chance. Only a gambling man that doesn't do his homework would bet on that one. It is obvious that Kean is just a puppet and is well out of his depth. He has no trust from his team and should have gone before christmas.

Doing the homework and maths then with 14 games still to play we still have a much better than evens chance of staying-up.

It will be any three from nine teams I think - Rovers, Wigan, Bolton, Wolves, QPR, WBA and Fulham, Villa and Stoke.

I include the last two because I think that Stoke City will be dragged into the fight as they seem to be struggling now and have only won one of their last eight prem games and are still in the FA Cup and Europe which might divert their attentions) Also Aston Villa are dismal right now and they have not won any of their last 12 (yes 12!) prem games.

So not just us having a bad time of it!

50% of our games are at home and with some better and more consistent home performances then we should be capable of beating QPR, Villa, Sunderland, Norwich and Wigan at Ewood.

Plus we could get maybe a point from either of the two games Man Utd or Liverpool - so that would give us 16 points from our home matches.

If we assume that 40 points is the 'safe' tally needed this season which is quite reasonable - then we would only need a further 6 points from the 7 away games.

We could get those from wins at Wolves and Bolton - crucial games as they are both 6 pointers....and we could also expect at least two points from the games at West Brom and Swansea...but probably zero return at City, Spurs and Chelsea.

So if we can play at the same level as we did against Everton and Fulham then we have the possibility of finishing up on 42 points and staying-up.

The home games are the key to survival plus the away games at Wolves Bolton and West Brom.

If we do fail and fall then at least lets do it in style with all guns blazing - rather than the abject surrender and wimpish display we saw on saturday.

Don't know if Kean can inspire the team to reach those heights and get the results which are needed for survival - but the sad fact is that we don't have any other options at the moment.

We are bad yes but so are all the teams around us....so all hope is not lost yet!

ChrisSutton wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

Monsters mum wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

Monsters mum wrote: Why can't all these angry posters on here add themselves to the growing number of fans who are actually trying to make themselves heard in their quest to have Venkys sell? If the organ grinder goes the monkey will follow! The atmosphere in the ground at the Bolton match was not just created by the "protesters" majority of fans were very upset and vocal that night. What will happen if QPR win? (apart from rovers definate relegation) More anger directed at Kean when Venkys should be the main target! I am so angry right now because we the fans can't do a ****** thing about it. We have been taken for fools.

Many of us on here were shouting for kean and venkys out 12months ago, on here and in and out of the ground but were constantly shot down for are views by kean venky patriots and as was stated by some of them be carefull what you wish for?

I know.. but it could'nt get much worse (yet)
What I was hoping was that more would now voice their true opinions instead of sitting on their hands so to speak!

Yep it will get worse M/Mum and it wont stop in the championship, i agree it needs every fan who does go on saturday to show there anger now towards kean and venkys not one or the other they are both responsible for what has happend not the fans.

But what good will that do? Venkys have surely proven a LONG time ago that they won't listen to fans, regardless if it's the vast majority or not.

You know that I feel the same way about Kean and Venkys, but I just don't see the point of the anger at the games anymore. We have 11 lads out there on the pitch that we need to focus our support on 100%.

Yes, we have a complete arrogant tosser as manager. Who frankly, is good enough for the conference. But he ain't going anywhere. We're best of being positive at the games, praying that somehow we survive, and that Venkys will toddle off in the summer.
-D.K.O

Road Runner Road Runner wrote:

hasslem hasslem wrote:
oh and lancashire telegraph - you need to grow a pair and tell whoever (can anybody guess?) that it threatening legal action to do one. either that or be more vigilent with your moderators....you are stifling any voice of supporters.
.
not allowed to protest inside ground
not allowed to protest outside ground
not allowed to post on forums.
.
are we living in syria?

I'm saying fack all anymore !

I'm tired of the likes of Kean making me feel like a right tw@t with my attempted optimism.

Fack this heart ruling the head malarky !

Doomed I tell ya - doomed !

Arte et labore

Road Runner Road Runner wrote:

hasslem hasslem wrote:
oh and lancashire telegraph - you need to grow a pair and tell whoever (can anybody guess?) that it threatening legal action to do one. either that or be more vigilent with your moderators....you are stifling any voice of supporters.
.
not allowed to protest inside ground
not allowed to protest outside ground
not allowed to post on forums.
.
are we living in syria?

I'm saying fack all anymore !

I'm tired of the likes of Kean making me feel like a right tw@t with my attempted optimism.

Fack this heart ruling the head malarky !

Doomed I tell ya - doomed !

Arte et labore

ChrisSutton wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

Monsters mum wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

Monsters mum wrote: Why can't all these angry posters on here add themselves to the growing number of fans who are actually trying to make themselves heard in their quest to have Venkys sell? If the organ grinder goes the monkey will follow! The atmosphere in the ground at the Bolton match was not just created by the "protesters" majority of fans were very upset and vocal that night. What will happen if QPR win? (apart from rovers definate relegation) More anger directed at Kean when Venkys should be the main target! I am so angry right now because we the fans can't do a ****** thing about it. We have been taken for fools.

Many of us on here were shouting for kean and venkys out 12months ago, on here and in and out of the ground but were constantly shot down for are views by kean venky patriots and as was stated by some of them be carefull what you wish for?

I know.. but it could'nt get much worse (yet)
What I was hoping was that more would now voice their true opinions instead of sitting on their hands so to speak!

Yep it will get worse M/Mum and it wont stop in the championship, i agree it needs every fan who does go on saturday to show there anger now towards kean and venkys not one or the other they are both responsible for what has happend not the fans.

But what good will that do? Venkys have surely proven a LONG time ago that they won't listen to fans, regardless if it's the vast majority or not.

You know that I feel the same way about Kean and Venkys, but I just don't see the point of the anger at the games anymore. We have 11 lads out there on the pitch that we need to focus our support on 100%.

Yes, we have a complete arrogant tosser as manager. Who frankly, is good enough for the conference. But he ain't going anywhere. We're best of being positive at the games, praying that somehow we survive, and that Venkys will toddle off in the summer.
-D.K.O

dallarover wrote:
So, if it took a drubbing for the Manager to realize we're in deep trouble then some good might have come from it. However, as someone has already pointed out to be sure of being safe we probably need to win one out of every two games which is a big, big ask.

However, just one word on the protests, we are stuck with Venky's, Kean and the current squad until the end of the season come what may so regardless of all the issues everyone may as well shelve them until the end of the season and have their say then.

Unfortunately, the protests have only drawn negative attention, given Kean the sympathy vote and resulted in Supporters being falsely and at least partly blamed for the current predicament. 100% support for the team from hereon in will at least stop others from pointing to this as an excuse.

dallarover wrote:
So, if it took a drubbing for the Manager to realize we're in deep trouble then some good might have come from it. However, as someone has already pointed out to be sure of being safe we probably need to win one out of every two games which is a big, big ask.

However, just one word on the protests, we are stuck with Venky's, Kean and the current squad until the end of the season come what may so regardless of all the issues everyone may as well shelve them until the end of the season and have their say then.

Unfortunately, the protests have only drawn negative attention, given Kean the sympathy vote and resulted in Supporters being falsely and at least partly blamed for the current predicament. 100% support for the team from hereon in will at least stop others from pointing to this as an excuse.

givet82 wrote:
gleechy,,there is teams worse off than us in wigan,,why doesnt everyone does run on the pitch and protest all matches and every day and night,answer is it will do no good,,the sooner you realise that and get behind the TEAM not the manager the better,,did you really expect to win at the emirates,,you can rant all night if it makes you feel better

Sherwoodforest wrote:
We need force a compulsary takeover like the fenway group did with the banks approval Anyone lend me 50m?

givet82 wrote:
gleechy,,there is teams worse off than us in wigan,,why doesnt everyone does run on the pitch and protest all matches and every day and night,answer is it will do no good,,the sooner you realise that and get behind the TEAM not the manager the better,,did you really expect to win at the emirates,,you can rant all night if it makes you feel better

forever blue and white wrote:

kitchener2 wrote:

French Rover wrote:

kitchener2 wrote:

French Rover wrote:

bigste wrote: The reality is we have 18 points from 24 games. There are 14 games left and we need 22 points to have a chance. Only a gambling man that doesn't do his homework would bet on that one. It is obvious that Kean is just a puppet and is well out of his depth. He has no trust from his team and should have gone before christmas.

Doing the homework and maths then with 14 games still to play we still have a much better than evens chance of staying-up. It will be any three from nine teams I think - Rovers, Wigan, Bolton, Wolves, QPR, WBA and Fulham, Villa and Stoke. I include the last two because I think that Stoke City will be dragged into the fight as they seem to be struggling now and have only won one of their last eight prem games and are still in the FA Cup and Europe which might divert their attentions) Also Aston Villa are dismal right now and they have not won any of their last 12 (yes 12!) prem games. So not just us having a bad time of it! 50% of our games are at home and with some better and more consistent home performances then we should be capable of beating QPR, Villa, Sunderland, Norwich and Wigan at Ewood. Plus we could get maybe a point from either of the two games Man Utd or Liverpool - so that would give us 16 points from our home matches. If we assume that 40 points is the 'safe' tally needed this season which is quite reasonable - then we would only need a further 6 points from the 7 away games. We could get those from wins at Wolves and Bolton - crucial games as they are both 6 pointers....and we could also expect at least two points from the games at West Brom and Swansea...but probably zero return at City, Spurs and Chelsea. So if we can play at the same level as we did against Everton and Fulham then we have the possibility of finishing up on 42 points and staying-up. The home games are the key to survival plus the away games at Wolves Bolton and West Brom. If we do fail and fall then at least lets do it in style with all guns blazing - rather than the abject surrender and wimpish display we saw on saturday. Don't know if Kean can inspire the team to reach those heights and get the results which are needed for survival - but the sad fact is that we don't have any other options at the moment. We are bad yes but so are all the teams around us....so all hope is not lost yet!

leave the absynthe alone matey, it's starting to rot your brain! You could'nt predict what day it's going to be tomorrow!

Sorry Kitch but it's not the Absynthe mate that I wrote that post off, (wish that it were) - it's the fifty years of supporting them man and boy that is in my blood that won't let me believe we will not escape going down despite the obvious and damning evidence to the contrary! So even though reality beckons - I won't write the Rovers off until its mathematically impossible for us to stay-up....and THEN I will try the Absynthe! Care to share a glass or two...?

Point taken pal, make mine a pint!

Well done you two.
A sensible discussion without anyone reverting to name calling or threatening abuse.
I hope and pray that your correct French Rover.
I watched Arsenal v Rovers on Saturday and to be honest it is the first time I have watched them and thought we are in trouble of dropping down.
Obviously after every match you can pick highlights and cling on to them with hope.
Unfortunately after the Arsenal match there is not a lot of hope left.
The response against QPR will, I think, decide our future this season.
Defeat and I think we would be really up against it.
A win and I could still see us getting out of it.
I really hope its the latter

Dukes wrote:
let stay calm guys because i been told by few source that after the dreadful results on Saturday the venkys are in talks with a manager who got of work. please dont hold your breath for once under them, but action needs to be taken now. This person is in pune , i been told and talks are processing well.

givet82 wrote:
really! your rant is everything to do with the emirates if we won there you wouldnt be saying this you are fickle!ive been to every game this season so i do "get it",when are YOU goin to get it,,i went to grimsby away fifteen years ago and i dont want to go back there and silly little boys like you are not helping and your right wigan has got nothing on blackburn but the point i was making is they havnt given up like you

givet82 wrote:
three points against qpr and you would have a very different opinion gleechy i fear for our club,you make no sense my friend,there is always hope and i wont give up just because you have,my honest opinion,,if qpr beat us 7-1 i might share what you say

Dave139 wrote:
Famous Kean Quotes :- We can finish in the top 10. We will not go down. The drop clock is ticking. Any guesses what the next one will be !!!!!

Come on u Blues wrote:
Watching all our fans walk out after Newcastle had made it 2-0, Ive never seen Ewood empty as quickly. Now a thrashing at Arsenal on TV, how many will be on against QPR. Its absoltue disgrace what is happening to our club, the heart and soul has been ripped out.
VENKYS OUT !!!!!!!!!!!!

BlueSkies wrote:
Nelsen on bench tonight for Spurs!!!!
.
Venky's and Kean out!

forever blue and white wrote:

kitchener2 wrote:

French Rover wrote:

kitchener2 wrote:

French Rover wrote:

bigste wrote: The reality is we have 18 points from 24 games. There are 14 games left and we need 22 points to have a chance. Only a gambling man that doesn't do his homework would bet on that one. It is obvious that Kean is just a puppet and is well out of his depth. He has no trust from his team and should have gone before christmas.

Doing the homework and maths then with 14 games still to play we still have a much better than evens chance of staying-up. It will be any three from nine teams I think - Rovers, Wigan, Bolton, Wolves, QPR, WBA and Fulham, Villa and Stoke. I include the last two because I think that Stoke City will be dragged into the fight as they seem to be struggling now and have only won one of their last eight prem games and are still in the FA Cup and Europe which might divert their attentions) Also Aston Villa are dismal right now and they have not won any of their last 12 (yes 12!) prem games. So not just us having a bad time of it! 50% of our games are at home and with some better and more consistent home performances then we should be capable of beating QPR, Villa, Sunderland, Norwich and Wigan at Ewood. Plus we could get maybe a point from either of the two games Man Utd or Liverpool - so that would give us 16 points from our home matches. If we assume that 40 points is the 'safe' tally needed this season which is quite reasonable - then we would only need a further 6 points from the 7 away games. We could get those from wins at Wolves and Bolton - crucial games as they are both 6 pointers....and we could also expect at least two points from the games at West Brom and Swansea...but probably zero return at City, Spurs and Chelsea. So if we can play at the same level as we did against Everton and Fulham then we have the possibility of finishing up on 42 points and staying-up. The home games are the key to survival plus the away games at Wolves Bolton and West Brom. If we do fail and fall then at least lets do it in style with all guns blazing - rather than the abject surrender and wimpish display we saw on saturday. Don't know if Kean can inspire the team to reach those heights and get the results which are needed for survival - but the sad fact is that we don't have any other options at the moment. We are bad yes but so are all the teams around us....so all hope is not lost yet!

leave the absynthe alone matey, it's starting to rot your brain! You could'nt predict what day it's going to be tomorrow!

Sorry Kitch but it's not the Absynthe mate that I wrote that post off, (wish that it were) - it's the fifty years of supporting them man and boy that is in my blood that won't let me believe we will not escape going down despite the obvious and damning evidence to the contrary! So even though reality beckons - I won't write the Rovers off until its mathematically impossible for us to stay-up....and THEN I will try the Absynthe! Care to share a glass or two...?

Point taken pal, make mine a pint!

Well done you two.
A sensible discussion without anyone reverting to name calling or threatening abuse.
I hope and pray that your correct French Rover.
I watched Arsenal v Rovers on Saturday and to be honest it is the first time I have watched them and thought we are in trouble of dropping down.
Obviously after every match you can pick highlights and cling on to them with hope.
Unfortunately after the Arsenal match there is not a lot of hope left.
The response against QPR will, I think, decide our future this season.
Defeat and I think we would be really up against it.
A win and I could still see us getting out of it.
I really hope its the latter

givet82 wrote:
gleechy,,there is teams worse off than us in wigan,,why doesnt everyone does run on the pitch and protest all matches and every day and night,answer is it will do no good,,the sooner you realise that and get behind the TEAM not the manager the better,,did you really expect to win at the emirates,,you can rant all night if it makes you feel better

tonto wrote:
How you are still in a job Kean defies belief ? Absolutely incredible what you & Venkys have done to our club. You deserve all the stick your going to get on Saturday.
PS Amazingly Nelson fit for Spurs, looks like it was another tall story from Kean about him being injured or a miraculous recovery.

BigOrra wrote:
I keep hearing that Steve Kean has great dignity. He's lost the fans, the dressing room, his club captain, his team captain and he lost the plot some time ago. Now is the time for him to show some dignity and resign. He's not good enough.

alfa111 wrote:

dallarover wrote: So, if it took a drubbing for the Manager to realize we're in deep trouble then some good might have come from it. However, as someone has already pointed out to be sure of being safe we probably need to win one out of every two games which is a big, big ask. However, just one word on the protests, we are stuck with Venky's, Kean and the current squad until the end of the season come what may so regardless of all the issues everyone may as well shelve them until the end of the season and have their say then. Unfortunately, the protests have only drawn negative attention, given Kean the sympathy vote and resulted in Supporters being falsely and at least partly blamed for the current predicament. 100% support for the team from hereon in will at least stop others from pointing to this as an excuse.

Think you will find venkys anti protest PR has back fired on themselves instead of the protesters, rather than have a free hand to muck around with the clubs funds, the protesting has only highlighted venkys unusual miss management of BRFC to the local and world press, they are being scrutinised and are being watched by the PL and there own bank ,Barclay bank,who have restricted the money they can play with.venkys have to answer to barclays bank every thing that concerns the finances of BRFC now due to concerns of slack payments of there loans and the fact that the bank had also warned them on the selling of their assets, transfer of rovers top players in the jan window it seem to have put the brakes on the venky train.Stuck with them or not better to do something than nothing protest wise ,see my comments above this.opinions vary.

givet82 wrote:
three points against qpr and you would have a very different opinion gleechy i fear for our club,you make no sense my friend,there is always hope and i wont give up just because you have,my honest opinion,,if qpr beat us 7-1 i might share what you say

dallarover wrote:

alfa111 wrote:

dallarover wrote: So, if it took a drubbing for the Manager to realize we're in deep trouble then some good might have come from it. However, as someone has already pointed out to be sure of being safe we probably need to win one out of every two games which is a big, big ask. However, just one word on the protests, we are stuck with Venky's, Kean and the current squad until the end of the season come what may so regardless of all the issues everyone may as well shelve them until the end of the season and have their say then. Unfortunately, the protests have only drawn negative attention, given Kean the sympathy vote and resulted in Supporters being falsely and at least partly blamed for the current predicament. 100% support for the team from hereon in will at least stop others from pointing to this as an excuse.

Think you will find venkys anti protest PR has back fired on themselves instead of the protesters, rather than have a free hand to muck around with the clubs funds, the protesting has only highlighted venkys unusual miss management of BRFC to the local and world press, they are being scrutinised and are being watched by the PL and there own bank ,Barclay bank,who have restricted the money they can play with.venkys have to answer to barclays bank every thing that concerns the finances of BRFC now due to concerns of slack payments of there loans and the fact that the bank had also warned them on the selling of their assets, transfer of rovers top players in the jan window it seem to have put the brakes on the venky train.Stuck with them or not better to do something than nothing protest wise ,see my comments above this.opinions vary.

Alfa111, 100% agree with everything you've said and the point has been made. My only comment is whether it will be made any more forcibly to those with influence with further vocal protests from now until the season's end. The yellow and black scarves and other signs of protest against the owners and not the team should remain visible.

I would like nothing better than for Venky's to sell up and go home and take their Puppet with them but it doesn't look like this will happen between now and the end of the season so my question is really what actions over the next 4 months (and 4 months only) affords us the best chance of staying up?

Ridiculous as the current ownership has been over the last 12 months I can only see it being worse not better in the Championship and from there I really worry that we are going to end up like another Portsmouth.

bed and breakfast man_! wrote:

SimonGarner wrote:
What's really sad about all this is the disablement of the comments section by the LET at weekends, presumably because of some legal threat and the LET not employing a weekend moderating boy. What an odious character Anderson is for getting shirty after the Rovers fans responded to his inflammatory comments in the Sky interview. And LET, you're as bad for not standing up to this. Take a look at any other newspaper comments sections, there is plenty of inflammatory material on there, posted by individuals who are disconnected with the newspaper. The last I heard, individual commentators on a forum do not represent the views of the institution to which the name of the forum is attached. So why are you taking it up the a$$? There is so much going wrong with the Rovers at the moment, it stinks.

SPOT ON...
I also would like the LET to tell us on here why they are taking this stance ?.
.
We here nothing from the'' Indian Bury the head in the sand Gang'' And the LET asks probing questions about them and what is going off at Blackburn Rovers FC, But i have asked the LET on here before for a explanation about this ''Legal reason'' thing and they do not give a explanation for there actions.
They cannot say they do not read our comments,As its our comments that has brought us to the reason of shutting down on a weekend.
.
Come on LET tell us why you are doing it ?????????
You ask questions about others, But do not answer questions when asked.
From a news paper point of view makes you look a bit HIPPOCRITICAL, No sorry VERY HIPPOCRITICAL......

Smacx25 wrote:
When Venkys finally leave and the maths have been done we will see that Venkys will have made a very tidy profit indeed.

careoak wrote:
Most of us have been telling Kean,The venky's and the club this for months - a bit too late! The heart is just not there for the fight anymore. Sad - but the question is whether we can bounce back when in the Championship?

givet82 wrote:
deluded bet you have never kicked a ball,,you know nothing about football or tactics ,,at first you mongs said kean were too attacking now playing 1 up you still moaning and to boo roque santa cruz REALLY!!!!jokes

flyingv1 wrote:
Rishtonian - a fit Nelsen on the bench for Spurs? How many teams place a substitute on the bench when not fully fit, but can play 45 minutes or so?

Again the "lies" come out. Sorry mate, not having a go, but as I said in a previous comment, this is why the LET stop postings at weekend.

Kean should go, but Venkeys are here until somebody offers to but Rovers - I would expect not may in the queue.

Blakewater 1 wrote:

Stone Island. wrote:

Jimmy Jambone wrote:

Stone Island. wrote:

Jimmy Jambone wrote:

RoverInRotterdam wrote:
What was it he said two transfer windows ago? oh yes "judge me after the transfer window". well you're guilty as ****. Between you and the other shyster venky scum and that reptile anderson you've ripped apart and trampled on what took 137 years to create in little over 18 months,you are all parasites of the lowest order,you have no honour or decency between you. The day you slither away from the wreckage you have created and return to the cesspool that gave you life is the day that Blackburn Rovers Football Club can hopefully begin to live again ..(All above is my opinion only ) ..Arte Et Labore .......

Ha ha. From your backside you pull this fabricated 'proud history' that took 137 years to build? BRFC's success was the product of a man giving them lots of money. It was totally artificial and didn't last. Sure, you won the league and all that but don't kid yourself that you EARNED it over years of support and dedication.

You're a fake club and you're going back to where you belong, League 2. Then you'll get your chance to earn your way back up the leagues through hard work. I bet you don't.

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riversidefan wrote:

givet82 wrote:
deluded bet you have never kicked a ball,,you know nothing about football or tactics ,,at first you mongs said kean were too attacking now playing 1 up you still moaning and to boo roque santa cruz REALLY!!!!jokes

Temper temper. You can hardly criticise anyone booing Santa Cruz given the abuse you gave Samba the other day, for, er, not being picked by Kean and his string puller.

French Rover wrote:

forever blue and white wrote:

kitchener2 wrote:

French Rover wrote:

kitchener2 wrote:

French Rover wrote:

bigste wrote: The reality is we have 18 points from 24 games. There are 14 games left and we need 22 points to have a chance. Only a gambling man that doesn't do his homework would bet on that one. It is obvious that Kean is just a puppet and is well out of his depth. He has no trust from his team and should have gone before christmas.

Doing the homework and maths then with 14 games still to play we still have a much better than evens chance of staying-up. It will be any three from nine teams I think - Rovers, Wigan, Bolton, Wolves, QPR, WBA and Fulham, Villa and Stoke. I include the last two because I think that Stoke City will be dragged into the fight as they seem to be struggling now and have only won one of their last eight prem games and are still in the FA Cup and Europe which might divert their attentions) Also Aston Villa are dismal right now and they have not won any of their last 12 (yes 12!) prem games. So not just us having a bad time of it! 50% of our games are at home and with some better and more consistent home performances then we should be capable of beating QPR, Villa, Sunderland, Norwich and Wigan at Ewood. Plus we could get maybe a point from either of the two games Man Utd or Liverpool - so that would give us 16 points from our home matches. If we assume that 40 points is the 'safe' tally needed this season which is quite reasonable - then we would only need a further 6 points from the 7 away games. We could get those from wins at Wolves and Bolton - crucial games as they are both 6 pointers....and we could also expect at least two points from the games at West Brom and Swansea...but probably zero return at City, Spurs and Chelsea. So if we can play at the same level as we did against Everton and Fulham then we have the possibility of finishing up on 42 points and staying-up. The home games are the key to survival plus the away games at Wolves Bolton and West Brom. If we do fail and fall then at least lets do it in style with all guns blazing - rather than the abject surrender and wimpish display we saw on saturday. Don't know if Kean can inspire the team to reach those heights and get the results which are needed for survival - but the sad fact is that we don't have any other options at the moment. We are bad yes but so are all the teams around us....so all hope is not lost yet!

leave the absynthe alone matey, it's starting to rot your brain! You could'nt predict what day it's going to be tomorrow!

Sorry Kitch but it's not the Absynthe mate that I wrote that post off, (wish that it were) - it's the fifty years of supporting them man and boy that is in my blood that won't let me believe we will not escape going down despite the obvious and damning evidence to the contrary! So even though reality beckons - I won't write the Rovers off until its mathematically impossible for us to stay-up....and THEN I will try the Absynthe! Care to share a glass or two...?

Point taken pal, make mine a pint!

Well done you two.
A sensible discussion without anyone reverting to name calling or threatening abuse.
I hope and pray that your correct French Rover.
I watched Arsenal v Rovers on Saturday and to be honest it is the first time I have watched them and thought we are in trouble of dropping down.
Obviously after every match you can pick highlights and cling on to them with hope.
Unfortunately after the Arsenal match there is not a lot of hope left.
The response against QPR will, I think, decide our future this season.
Defeat and I think we would be really up against it.
A win and I could still see us getting out of it.
I really hope its the latter

you are welcome to join me and Kitch for a pint of Absynthe whichever way it goes.....

and yes I am in touch with reality and yes sorry to disappoint El Tel (who for some strange reason seems to think I am Steve Kean) but even I think that the results I suggested are unlikely to happen, but I was just pointing out that there is still a possibility of staying-up no matter how unlikely that is.

calirover wrote:

French Rover wrote:

forever blue and white wrote:

kitchener2 wrote:

French Rover wrote:

kitchener2 wrote:

French Rover wrote:

bigste wrote: The reality is we have 18 points from 24 games. There are 14 games left and we need 22 points to have a chance. Only a gambling man that doesn't do his homework would bet on that one. It is obvious that Kean is just a puppet and is well out of his depth. He has no trust from his team and should have gone before christmas.

Doing the homework and maths then with 14 games still to play we still have a much better than evens chance of staying-up. It will be any three from nine teams I think - Rovers, Wigan, Bolton, Wolves, QPR, WBA and Fulham, Villa and Stoke. I include the last two because I think that Stoke City will be dragged into the fight as they seem to be struggling now and have only won one of their last eight prem games and are still in the FA Cup and Europe which might divert their attentions) Also Aston Villa are dismal right now and they have not won any of their last 12 (yes 12!) prem games. So not just us having a bad time of it! 50% of our games are at home and with some better and more consistent home performances then we should be capable of beating QPR, Villa, Sunderland, Norwich and Wigan at Ewood. Plus we could get maybe a point from either of the two games Man Utd or Liverpool - so that would give us 16 points from our home matches. If we assume that 40 points is the 'safe' tally needed this season which is quite reasonable - then we would only need a further 6 points from the 7 away games. We could get those from wins at Wolves and Bolton - crucial games as they are both 6 pointers....and we could also expect at least two points from the games at West Brom and Swansea...but probably zero return at City, Spurs and Chelsea. So if we can play at the same level as we did against Everton and Fulham then we have the possibility of finishing up on 42 points and staying-up. The home games are the key to survival plus the away games at Wolves Bolton and West Brom. If we do fail and fall then at least lets do it in style with all guns blazing - rather than the abject surrender and wimpish display we saw on saturday. Don't know if Kean can inspire the team to reach those heights and get the results which are needed for survival - but the sad fact is that we don't have any other options at the moment. We are bad yes but so are all the teams around us....so all hope is not lost yet!

leave the absynthe alone matey, it's starting to rot your brain! You could'nt predict what day it's going to be tomorrow!

Sorry Kitch but it's not the Absynthe mate that I wrote that post off, (wish that it were) - it's the fifty years of supporting them man and boy that is in my blood that won't let me believe we will not escape going down despite the obvious and damning evidence to the contrary! So even though reality beckons - I won't write the Rovers off until its mathematically impossible for us to stay-up....and THEN I will try the Absynthe! Care to share a glass or two...?

Point taken pal, make mine a pint!

Well done you two.
A sensible discussion without anyone reverting to name calling or threatening abuse.
I hope and pray that your correct French Rover.
I watched Arsenal v Rovers on Saturday and to be honest it is the first time I have watched them and thought we are in trouble of dropping down.
Obviously after every match you can pick highlights and cling on to them with hope.
Unfortunately after the Arsenal match there is not a lot of hope left.
The response against QPR will, I think, decide our future this season.
Defeat and I think we would be really up against it.
A win and I could still see us getting out of it.
I really hope its the latter

you are welcome to join me and Kitch for a pint of Absynthe whichever way it goes.....

and yes I am in touch with reality and yes sorry to disappoint El Tel (who for some strange reason seems to think I am Steve Kean) but even I think that the results I suggested are unlikely to happen, but I was just pointing out that there is still a possibility of staying-up no matter how unlikely that is.

I agree with you Frenchy...IF we had a decent manager with some organisational and motivational skills with discipline.
Dave Jones Blue and White army.
You mention Stoke have won one in 8...against? If Kean had played Rochina at home instead of one up front we'd have beaten Stoke.
I think West Brom could get dragged into it.
The simple fact is that we have to get a winning mentality. KEAN is a LOSER, NOT a WINNER.

j bee wrote:
it was tickingg with ince and big sam before venkys came in , were did the money go that venkys had to pay of , no wonder some of the staff buggered off