Mrs Desai: Why John Williams left Blackburn Rovers (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Sam had a big influence over most supporters, making them believe that a club like Rovers could only survive by negative percentages hoofball and that entertaining football was not an option without loads of money and that the players we had were only suited to his negative style of play. 75% were taken in by this.
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Looks like JW was taken in even more, they were very cosy together at the matches and JW has hardly spoken since Sam left, so Mrs Desai speaking about him losing interest may be just about right. You did a great job JW but if you were so committed to Sam, then it was time to go.

I agree 100% spot on and well said jogalot. its said to hear that he didnt get on with Steve Kean though??????

what is a thinking manager?
Can she explain what she means and what happens if he gets dementia will his thinking stay the same she doesnt realise when choosing managers you dont go for good thinkers.
Has anyone in the football world come out and said we appointed the manager cause he is a good thinker not because he is a good tactician or a guy who has experience with top clubs and has won things

Kean is an excellent thinker,he thinks he's a premier league manager.

I find it very difficult to believe that John Williams didn't get on with Steve Kean. John has got on with very big ego's over the years none bigger than Graeme Souness and they had a great working relationship, so I do think good old Mrs Desai is talking out of her arse. I have backed the new owners from day one but they have this habit of keep p!ssing on everyones chips. Just when things settle down John's off

webster64 wrote:
I agree 100% spot on and well said jogalot. its said to hear that he didnt get on with Steve Kean though??????

Kean allied himself to Jerome Anderson and helped to side step JW,I think JW is a good judge.I feel that Jerome Anderson might not be quite as easy to get rid of,he's built quite a network in a short space of time.

Call me old fashioned, but I don't believe a word that escapes this women's mouth. However, if she is willing to back your manager with substantial transfer funds over the next couple of years, then the claptrap she spouts is immaterial.

ronaldinho wrote:
what is a thinking manager?
Can she explain what she means and what happens if he gets dementia will his thinking stay the same she doesnt realise when choosing managers you dont go for good thinkers.
Has anyone in the football world come out and said we appointed the manager cause he is a good thinker not because he is a good tactician or a guy who has experience with top clubs and has won things

As I understand it, I think she is refering to tactics, team selection, Etc.
Only time will tell if he is as good as she recons.
Not a bad job so far. Mistakes, yes, wrong team selection, sometimes.
Be patient fellow Rover. Lets see where we are at the season end, and what happens as regards signings over the summer.
Its taking time for Man City and they have billions more than us.
Problem at the moment would actually be getting a manager who has experience with top clubs and has won things. If steve kean does well with Rovers though, would we want a top manager?

Perhaps it's something as simple as Sam discussing things with JW, but Kean not discussing so much because now he is manager he wants to make his own decisions on his own. So JW feels he hasn't as much input as he used to have. I don't know, just guessing... perhaps JW will speak before long.
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If Kean is an excellent thinker, then he will used this for all aspects of his life, which includes tactics and understanding of the game. So it sounds a bit silly to me to criticise Mrs Desai for talking about a thinking manager or positivity.

For me,its obvious he has to move on. If someone thought this surprised them, then they are very naive. It happens everywhere. After BFS exit, I think JW exit has been handled well by the new regime.

Its tme for us fans to move on. New owners havent done bad. Seems they have improved in PR front. People criticizing her on saying 'Kean is a thinker' are nuts really. If a Roman Abrohomovic or or Shiek Mansour would ve told that, you would ve taken it has the Gods own words.

Lets get credit to Kean. I expected him to buckle down under the pressure mounted on him, the novice, the one who backstabbed his master, the yes man etc etc. He has done remarkably well. He could ve well given chances to the experienced players. He trusted his young players and got performces from them, this inturn made his seniors pros switch to his side. Spurs match should ve been won by Rovers if not for Gomes. To me, Kean has won me over fair & square. Venkys - well, I dont find any fault with them, except for their initial PR madness. Lets get behind the club and support them.

jogalot wrote:
Perhaps it's something as simple as Sam discussing things with JW, but Kean not discussing so much because now he is manager he wants to make his own decisions on his own. So JW feels he hasn't as much input as he used to have. I don't know, just guessing... perhaps JW will speak before long. . If Kean is an excellent thinker, then he will used this for all aspects of his life, which includes tactics and understanding of the game. So it sounds a bit silly to me to criticise Mrs Desai for talking about a thinking manager or positivity.

Jogalot, your posts one the whole are constructive and I tend to agree with most of your opinions, as I do today. It's good to read posts that are not over inflammatory and mature without being OTT.
I think 'thinker' should read 'tactician' probably because English is not the new owners' first language. However, Kean does need to prove her right and stop making the mistakes that have been made. Hopefully he won't start with Andrews and Roberts today which will go a long way to show us all he is learning.

nexile wrote:

jogalot wrote: Perhaps it's something as simple as Sam discussing things with JW, but Kean not discussing so much because now he is manager he wants to make his own decisions on his own. So JW feels he hasn't as much input as he used to have. I don't know, just guessing... perhaps JW will speak before long. . If Kean is an excellent thinker, then he will used this for all aspects of his life, which includes tactics and understanding of the game. So it sounds a bit silly to me to criticise Mrs Desai for talking about a thinking manager or positivity.

Jogalot, your posts one the whole are constructive and I tend to agree with most of your opinions, as I do today. It's good to read posts that are not over inflammatory and mature without being OTT. I think 'thinker' should read 'tactician' probably because English is not the new owners' first language. However, Kean does need to prove her right and stop making the mistakes that have been made. Hopefully he won't start with Andrews and Roberts today which will go a long way to show us all he is learning.

I agree with both, especially getting thinker and tactician mixed up as its not their first language. Better to get a PR agent to proof read a statement before it is released. Otherwise you may get the old Monty Python gag slipping out. My pockets are full of eels

I understand JW departure only surprise is it tooks so long after Venkys arrived.
Sorry but Chairlady does not install confidence when she speaks - again the admin side is up in the air because of a lack of a contingency plan just like when SA left. Nor does her comment linking SK to his departure help - it starts people thinking what type Kean is.
Think positive through the uncertainty but lets hope after Wedsnesday night she saw what is needed to make Rovers a top 5 Team and not blame bad luck when it was poor finishing. Goals win games not attractive football

Did we really need this 'interview' to understand why Williams wanted out? Since Venky's bought the club he hasn't had a job. Venky's want total control and what is the point of a chairman with no decision making powers?

stick to football wrote:
I understand JW departure only surprise is it tooks so long after Venkys arrived. Sorry but Chairlady does not install confidence when she speaks - again the admin side is up in the air because of a lack of a contingency plan just like when SA left. Nor does her comment linking SK to his departure help - it starts people thinking what type Kean is. Think positive through the uncertainty but lets hope after Wedsnesday night she saw what is needed to make Rovers a top 5 Team and not blame bad luck when it was poor finishing. Goals win games not attractive football

Well said games are won by scoring goals,we still play the same players who constantly fail when it comes to putting the ball in the net on a regular basis, some fans seem to be happy just playing well? .
Mrs desia has been honest and more transparent of late so at least its open for all to see why jw left.

Read more lies from Anuradha Desai in sky sports news/Blackurn Rovers
Venkys will never lean to keep their mouths shut
She say's JW lost interest when kean took over from Sam and that JW did not get on with Kean

well lets hope he is a good learner as well. or we will be in trouble.

I don't see why anyone would criticse Mrs. Desai for coming out and saying why JW left. It was something that we all liked about JW - the fact that he would try and keep fans informed of things going on at the club. Of course, it is not practical for them to tell us about everything that is going on at the club, but if this is indicative of their future policy, then that will hopefully be a good thing for Rovers fans.
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As for JW and his supposed dislike of Kean, I'm sure this has a lot to do with how close JW and Allardyce were. Once you have that kind of relationship with a manager, who is then removed without your input, then it will be very hard to fully support the new man. I don't think anyone was really surprised with the news of his exit. But instead of using it as an excuse to criticise the new owners (again), we should say thank you to JW, move on and look forward to the (hopefully) exciting times that lie ahead for our club.

Keep Darwen Green wrote:

nexile wrote:

jogalot wrote: Perhaps it's something as simple as Sam discussing things with JW, but Kean not discussing so much because now he is manager he wants to make his own decisions on his own. So JW feels he hasn't as much input as he used to have. I don't know, just guessing... perhaps JW will speak before long. . If Kean is an excellent thinker, then he will used this for all aspects of his life, which includes tactics and understanding of the game. So it sounds a bit silly to me to criticise Mrs Desai for talking about a thinking manager or positivity.

Jogalot, your posts one the whole are constructive and I tend to agree with most of your opinions, as I do today. It's good to read posts that are not over inflammatory and mature without being OTT. I think 'thinker' should read 'tactician' probably because English is not the new owners' first language. However, Kean does need to prove her right and stop making the mistakes that have been made. Hopefully he won't start with Andrews and Roberts today which will go a long way to show us all he is learning.

I agree with both, especially getting thinker and tactician mixed up as its not their first language. Better to get a PR agent to proof read a statement before it is released. Otherwise you may get the old Monty Python gag slipping out. My pockets are full of eels

They've already got a PR machine in place & it's you....sad little tw@. How the LET allows you to create all these accounts and spout this rubbish is beyond me. It must feel great to agree with your own bu11sh1t!!

I dont belive her script. John lost interest my ar5e.......
This is a man who has done so much for Blackburn Rovers FC for years and all of a sudden JW switches off, Does she think people from the north of england do not know bulls**t when they hear it , She is insulting people's intelligence.
But not content with insulting the fans intelligence, She seems to want to insult John Williams good name and from where i am standing he seems to be 110% more trustworthy than this woman. Is there anybody left for these venky kn0b heads to stab in the back.
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Very disheartening words and actions from venkys.........

ossyrover1 wrote:
well lets hope he is a good learner as well. or we will be in trouble.

After this afternoon's result, we ARE in trouble.

well said bed and breakfast man

the venkys are idiots, and clueless, john left on hes terms, cos he didnt see the club progressing the venkys way, and johns moto was finance and saftey of the club before anything, and he did it, venkys arent the same, they want instant success, and it wont work, venkys are clueless, in footballing matters, kean is useless, disgrace at the game today, he and venkys out!!!!!!!!!

She's quoted as saying that JW lost interest in your club. If you believe that,
please look out your window for flying pigs. I'm not a rovers fan, but I recognise JW as being one of the best chairmen in the Prem, and would expect him to bleed blue & white.

Having read this womans drivel after watching yet another tactically inept away display when we shipped goals for fun against a poor Wigan side, I'm more & more worried about the future for Rovers.
A yes man in chage of the team, JW gone, the mysterious Jerome Anderson behind the scenes. It's not as if Mama Chicken is pleasent to look at, which only increases the problem.

simple do not believe a word this lot say its lie after lie. This is my last season ticket until this lot move on and that mrs desai is not a lie

bed and breakfast man_! wrote:
I dont belive her script. John lost interest my ar5e....... This is a man who has done so much for Blackburn Rovers FC for years and all of a sudden JW switches off, Does she think people from the north of england do not know bulls**t when they hear it , She is insulting people's intelligence. But not content with insulting the fans intelligence, She seems to want to insult John Williams good name and from where i am standing he seems to be 110% more trustworthy than this woman. Is there anybody left for these venky kn0b heads to stab in the back. . Very disheartening words and actions from venkys.........

Totally agree with your quotes re JW

As for linking JW's demise with Sam going, why not earlier with the better managers.

My one meeting with JW left me in no doubt he would do anything in his power for Blackburn Rovers.

Why don't the Venky's just say he was not the person they thought could take the club forwards. But then the onus would go onto them.

Cheap cop out statement.

smellthecoffee wrote:

Keep Darwen Green wrote:

nexile wrote:

jogalot wrote: Perhaps it's something as simple as Sam discussing things with JW, but Kean not discussing so much because now he is manager he wants to make his own decisions on his own. So JW feels he hasn't as much input as he used to have. I don't know, just guessing... perhaps JW will speak before long. . If Kean is an excellent thinker, then he will used this for all aspects of his life, which includes tactics and understanding of the game. So it sounds a bit silly to me to criticise Mrs Desai for talking about a thinking manager or positivity.

Jogalot, your posts one the whole are constructive and I tend to agree with most of your opinions, as I do today. It's good to read posts that are not over inflammatory and mature without being OTT. I think 'thinker' should read 'tactician' probably because English is not the new owners' first language. However, Kean does need to prove her right and stop making the mistakes that have been made. Hopefully he won't start with Andrews and Roberts today which will go a long way to show us all he is learning.

I agree with both, especially getting thinker and tactician mixed up as its not their first language. Better to get a PR agent to proof read a statement before it is released. Otherwise you may get the old Monty Python gag slipping out. My pockets are full of eels

They've already got a PR machine in place & it's you....sad little tw@. How the LET allows you to create all these accounts and spout this rubbish is beyond me. It must feel great to agree with your own bu11sh1t!!

Ah smellmearsehole you're back, been hiding under your stone, I can tell by the time of your post that you're not interested in football just fixing for an argument. So now you're back from sniffing bums I suggest you p1ss off back an sniff some more.

oops it looks from the picture that someone is taking aim..!

why don't we make this interesting and fix a fight in a ring somewhere?? Bring it on Venky boy!!

They can now get another yes man in just like Steve Kean-

JW left when Mrs D came over and sacked him. he had already negotiated his payoff in case.
very wise move by JW.

I also think a lot about football,I have no previous experience apart from coaching my boys team but I'm cheap and will do you bidding maam,go on gisa job

oh by the way Jerome if your reading this get in mamma chickens ear and get old baldy the boot and when you negotiate my contract you can bank another say 25% for youself,or you could f@ck off and die your choice

I've just got back to London from Wigan. I have posted my doubts about Kean before based on his lack of experience and the fact that the guy is clearly the biggest creep and backstabber that's ever been associated with the Rovers. Kean, just know that I am on your case. You haven't got a clue about how to manage a premier league club and the only thing you "think"about is yourself and getting rid of people who have found you out. The only reason JW didn't get on with you is because he had no respect for you. I hope you have a good termination clause in your contract because make no mistake, the Indians will have no qualms in ending your honeymoon period...they have bigger egos and more to lose than you.
For ever and ever

and for those of you who think that it was a language barrier that mixed up thinker and tactician it was not,as even undiscovererd tribes up the Amazon can plainly see tea boy is neither

John Williams did a good job for Blackburn Rovers,but remember he also did a good job for John Williams.
Since being taken onboard by Jack Walker he has received a very good salary,and was taken into the inner circle by Jack,so much so he was on the board of trustees. Now I stand corrected if I am wrong but most Trustees receive a salary for that role.
He was responsible for the sale of the club,which had a number of interested parties over the last couple of years which never came to anything.
The club has now been sold,only time will tell if it is to the right people,but John Williams has left with a handsome payoff.
Does that not tell the full story ?

I dont know why all the rovers fans are moaning cos sams gone! the football is much much better since he`s gone, and there`s no way we`d of beaten liverpool 3-1 under allardyce, it`d of been sit back and hoof it to a lone striker! i went to all the home and away games under sam, and was fed up of the neagativity and over cautious football, its much better at the moment and will only get better!

eddie the eagle wrote:
Kean is an excellent thinker,he thinks he's a premier league manager.

Nice one! Wish I'd said that.

John Williams deserves a huge amount of credit for keeping Rovers as one of the more debt free in the Premier League and keeping them in that league on a limited budget. He was willing to experiment with young managers like Paul Ince but when it didn't work out he was quick to take action. When experience was needed he went for BFS and it worked. Let's hope the club continues to be well managed within its means.

4 straight defeats in all competions, Newcastle next......could be five?

I dont think sam lost five in a row so often!

Doomed!!

It's no wonder he 'lost interest in the role' and 'didn't get on' with Kean - Venky's sidelined him and it was Kean swanning off to India for talks. If Venkys had wanted him to stat they would have given him a proper role and used his experience.

Only an idiot brings on a midfielder when we require a goal with minutes to go.

One point everybody seems to be overlooking -

The big test for the chicken farmers is matching the prices that Mr. Williams passed on to the suporters. We are the envy of the rest of the Premier League supporters for the low price of our tickets. I suspect that without Mr. Williams, my season ticket is going to cost a few dozen eggs more next season!