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Blackburn Rovers bidder's firm IS suspended


FRESH concerns have been raised about an Indian businessman’s bid to take over Blackburn Rovers after it emerged his main Bahrain firm IS suspended from trading.

Confusion arose yesterday when Ahsan Ali Syed denied reports Western Gulf Advisory had been shutdown pending an investigation.

But last night Bahrain’s Ministry of Industry and Commerce told the Lancashire Telegraph that it HAD suspended WGA from trading following information from the country’s Central Bank.

Mr Syed’s spokesperson has now confirmed the sanction, but clarified that WGA was ‘still operating, but not trading’.

And she said the suspension would not affect his £300million takeover of Rovers as WGA ‘was not carrying out any investment activities’.

A different firm, Swiss-based Western Gulf Advisory AG was leading the Rovers bid, the spokesperson said.

However, Rovers fans said the announcement had left them with concerns about Mr Syed’s takeover.

Western Gulf Advisory had its licence suspended by the government in Bahrain as an investigation was launched into its financial practices, a spokesman for the Ministry of Industry and Commerce said.

The inquiry will focus on the company’s ‘source of funds’ and will seek a ‘clarification of transactions’, according to the spokesman.

The spokesman said the company had allegedly violated regulations by 'operating outside its remit'.

He said: “WGA is currently under investigation by the government after concerns were raised.

"Clarification is needed on some transactions and the investigation will also look at the company’s source of funds.

“The government has the power to close down any business that breaches the regulations.”

But bosses at WGA said the move in Bahrain did not affect other parts of the business, including the Western Gulf Advisory AG, based in Switzerland.

It is understood that any investigation could take many weeks.

Yesterday WGA spokesperson Julia Thiem told the Lancashire Telegraph the WGA had 'not been shutdown'.

She said the 'only reason' offices were closed was because the firm was moving to new premises.

Being asked to clarify the situation following the statement from the Bahrain government, Ms Thiem last night said: "The Ministry has asked us not to carry out any investment activities or trading from our Bahrain entity while the clarification process is ongoing.

“But, as we are not carrying out any investment activities from Bahrain anyway, it is not affecting our operations at all.”

She said the firm was 'not trading but still operating'.

Blackburn MP and Rovers season ticket holder Jack Straw said he believed the Walker Trust would thoroughly research any potential buyer.

He said: "The club is well known for being very well run and has been since the time of Jack Walker.

“The developments in Bahrain are being followed by all Rovers fans and I am quite sure that all will be done to ensure that any takeover will be in the best interests of the club.

"We don’t want the club to turn in to another Portsmouth.”

Blackburn Rovers fan and Lancashire Telegraph columnist John Myles said he remained cautious about the takeover.

He said: “I am like a lot of fans in that I don’t want to count my chickens until they have hatched.

"I have been like that since they first started talking about this bid and I remain that way.

“The club has to be careful that the future is safe and I am sure that the senior management will ensure that.”

The Premier League said that its ‘owners and directors test’, which is a tightened up version of the former ‘fit and proper persons test’, does not specifically cover companies which have been suspended from trading.

However, it is understood that the Premier League is confident that checks being made by Blackburn Rovers and chairman John Williams during the current due diligence period on potential buyers will exceed any that the authorities put in place.

Mr Syed and WGA have been linked with a takeover of Blackburn Rovers since last month and a team of negotiators arrived at Ewood Park recently to begin talks.

He has pledged to invest £300milliion in the club, and give manager Sam Allardyce a £100million transfer kitty over five years.

Mr Syed, whose personal wealth has been reported to be between £3bn and £8bn, is currently going through due dilligence - this is when the books are opened up for inspection.

He said he would be investing his personal wealth in to the club, through his Swiss firm, and he would be the sole investor.

The takeover bid is being negotiated by Western Gulf AG's European investment team, which is currently involved in the creation of a new Europe-based firm, WGA Sports, which will oversee all Mr Syed's sports investments.

According to its company website, Western Gulf Advisory provides services relating to asset and wealth management and Mr Syed's family has been involved in private sector lending across Asia for 150 years.

Accounts from WGA show that as of December 31 last year the company had total assets of over US$1.19bn.

The majority of that, US$859million, was listed as ‘funds available for investment’, which is described in the accounts as ‘funds made available by a shareholder’.

Some $286,468 is held in bank funds, according to the accounts.

Meanwhile, there remains strong other interest in purchasing Blackburn Rovers, with the first suitor to make his interest public, Saurin Shah, still in talks.

It is understood the Mumbai businessman's representatives have been in London to continue negotiations with Rothschilds as they remain serious rivals to Mr Syed.

Another Indian group and a trio of Australian tycoons have also been linked with a bid for the club.

Comments(77)

PK Bailey says...
9:11am Thu 2 Sep 10

Well well seems some people just can not abide by the rules of cricket or can they!

Nuttall St Norman says...
9:22am Thu 2 Sep 10

Yet another negative article from the Burnley rag. Doubtless when the takeover has gone through and Sam has the money to spend we will be getting further negatives on how Sam will spend the dosh.
Incidentally don't recall in depth enquiries being made by Telegraph inton Brendan Floods businesses over last couple of years

John Bold says...
9:31am Thu 2 Sep 10

Great to know that the bloke supposed to be taking over our club is already lying to the fans! Looks good!

BRFC1959 says...
9:45am Thu 2 Sep 10

John Bold wrote:
Great to know that the bloke supposed to be taking over our club is already lying to the fans! Looks good!
John Bold....

I conquer what you said !!! As said yesterday where there is smoke, there is fire....

bluenwhite says...
10:03am Thu 2 Sep 10

BRFC1959 wrote:
John Bold wrote:
Great to know that the bloke supposed to be taking over our club is already lying to the fans! Looks good!
John Bold....

I conquer what you said !!! As said yesterday where there is smoke, there is fire....
stop ffffing moaning, let the takeover run its course and see what happens. Talk about cup half emty

Roverthere says...
10:11am Thu 2 Sep 10

From Bahrain Daily News
Blackburn deal still on track says WGA
By ARTHUR MACDONALD , Posted on » Thursday, September 02, 2010

MANAMA: Western Gulf Advisory's (WGA) attempt to buy English Premier League club Blackburn Rovers is still on track and chairman and managing director Ahsan Ali Syed yesterday said he would prove doubters wrong when he took over the club.

WGA had its Bahrain licence suspended over alleged violation of regulations but Mr Syed said the company was still operating and insisting the reason their Bahrain offices were shut was due to relocation issues, though he admitted there was an official investigation into the firm.

Since its suspension, WGA has declined to make statements to the Press in Bahrain but continues to talk to the UK media.

"It is fair enough the authorities are seeking clarification because there have been so many stories about us," WGA spokeswoman Julia Thiem told the Blackburn-based Lancashire Telegraph.

"We have no problems with that.

"It is true the offices are closed because we locked them ourselves. We were not shut down.

"We locked them because we are due to move new offices and this has already been reported in the GDN," she said.

"But the offices are not ready yet and as it is Ramadan at the moment, it is hard to rush anything.

"So Mr Syed has decided to give people a few days off until the end of Eid and hopefully on September 14 we will start running operations from the office.

"However, the core team is still working from a different location.

"The Bahrain authorities came here a week ago and I am here speaking to you and there are other people working here.

"We are still open," she added.

She said she believed Bahrain authorities had wanted to clarify the differences between Western Gulf Advisory and Western Gulf Advisory AG.

"His wealth comes from his inheritance. His family has 150 years of history in private companies.

"Mr Syed has liquidity and fixed assets. He would consider himself as being privileged. There is no doubt you can call him a billionaire, but he doesn't call himself that.

"He is not your typical billionaire. He actually comes and talks to his staff," she said.

BJS says...
10:15am Thu 2 Sep 10

A re-assuring statement from BRFC wouldn't do any harm.

Miller11 says...
10:22am Thu 2 Sep 10

I have just emailed Mark Thompson at the BBC suggesting he sues Vinjay.

hughesless says...
10:23am Thu 2 Sep 10

Mr Syed has not lied about anything, yesterday he confirmed in Cryer's article WGA was 'operating' and denied 5Live's story which said it had completely been shut down. This article merely confirms he cannot trade (which syed did not mention), however as most of his investments are undertaken using his Swiss company (as suggested by his spokesperson) this will not affect anything. It appears to me the Bahrain government wants some cheap publicity as there is currently a lot of press coverage about him buying BRFC. If you look at his other investments in AUS in Landmark and his proposed takeover of cubbie station and his takeover of the Irish builder Mccabe he clearly has the money as these investments amount to £100s of millions. The one thing that is not clear is how he has suddenly 'inherited' this vast wealth. I believe he probably has already provided sufficient evidence to BRFC if they have allowed him to undertake due diligence unlike the shah consortium. Furthermore the AUS government would not have allowed him to takeover landmark if there was anything untoward.

The key question therefore is how has syed's family generated their wealth and whom has Syed inherited this vast wealth from?

blueandwhitey79 says...
10:27am Thu 2 Sep 10

look at the guys picture, he has claret and blue rings on his fingers.. if thats not enough to put you off him buying us then what is??

Mike Costa says...
10:34am Thu 2 Sep 10

Mike Costa says:

Great spot blueandwhitey. Surely we cant trust the man after he's made such a schoolboy error?

Vinjay says...
10:39am Thu 2 Sep 10

There's nothing here to worry about. Clearly some kind of misunderstanding. I've had enough of a truly miserable morning as it is (dealing with stupid electric people) without reading this rubbish.

Of course the love affair between the LT and the wonderful Walkers continues? Well run? If you call bringing in a Man United reserve (who was too lazy and tired to continue on Saturday so had to be subbed) and a washed up prima donna freebie well run.

I can't understand why those who want to remain with the Walkers are worried. After all the "saintly" Walkers wouldn't let anyone run this club into the ground (aside from them it seems) so what is there for anyone to worry about? I am pro syed because he's clearly someone able and willing to take this club forward.

Others who are pro walkers should be pro syed because the adored walkers wouldn't have let him get this far in the process if there was anything wrong surely? Its not like they would tell lies is it? Course not.Have the LT not checked on whether they have found that cure for aids yet since they are oh so perfect after all.

Won't be long until the LT are getting the chapstick out for Mr Syed WHEN he takes over. Hopefully he can see the staff at Ewood for what they are. They have spent the last 10 years sucking up to the Walkers and turning a blind eye to them as the **** on Jack's legacy. Mr Syed can not allow them to do the same to him. There's a lot of cancer at Ewood and when dealing with cancer the whole lot needs to be removed.

The countdown to liberation day is still very much on albeit it might take a little longer.

John Bold says...
10:49am Thu 2 Sep 10

Vinjay you are an absolute **** moron. You have no clue about football whatsoever. So what if Diouf played for Manchester United? Doesn't make him a bad person. The guy has scored 4 goals in 2 games. Give him a break.
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And this takeover is a disaster waiting to happen. An absolute shambles.

Vinjay says...
10:49am Thu 2 Sep 10

Miller11 wrote:
I have just emailed Mark Thompson at the BBC suggesting he sues Vinjay.
He would have to sue a lot of other people too then.

Jamesyness says...
11:09am Thu 2 Sep 10

Reading between the lines of the statements made by Syed's spokesperson, all he is doing is complying with what has been requested of them by the Bahraini government. There does seem to be an element of negativity surrounding this potential takeover, which of course is understandable given recent news.

It's only the same as what would happen here if our Government asked a company to cease trading activities whilst it confirms the legitimacy of funds.

I wouldn't say it is standard practice but to prevent money laundering and suchlike, such checks have to be made.

Whilst it is suspicious because we all don't know the facts and the legal system of Bahrain... why don't we all just 'wait and see'

I'm sure the Walker Trust and John Williams will do as much research on Mr Syed as he will them. Any concerns then I don't think anyone will be on the telephone to the Premier League advising them of an imminent takeover.
Even then the Premier League have their own tests to see if Mr Syed is 'fit and proper' There is no question that Rovers need investment, but they need the RIGHT investment, not just anybody!

Until then.... wait and see.

Matt-- says...
11:11am Thu 2 Sep 10

He's been very careful there not to outright lie but not really tell the whole truth. Worrying.

Dubai Rover says...
12:07pm Thu 2 Sep 10

This Julia Thiem reminds me of a new labour spin doctor! True you haven't been shutdown but if your trading license has been stopped what exactly can you do?

Having said that, over in this part of the world non Arabs are deemed guilty until proven innocent in all aspects. The government agencies tend to be illogical and erratic, so the truth is probably that there isn't anything to hide.

Hopefully JW, the trust and the premier leagues new rules will mean that if we do get a new owner, they will be good for the club

kick out says...
12:24pm Thu 2 Sep 10

what you lot going on about the telelgraph have nothing else to right about this is the same story that was in the papers yesterday and is not anything different as mr syed said he is buying club with his own money and not THROUGH WGA.
he has not done anything wrong yet.
he came out yesterday and said there were investigation but this has nothing to do with the takeover and will not affect the takeover as he is buying club with his own money
regarding the premier league test he will pass as looking at some of the points he does not seem to have any problems with as he is not bankrupt or a criminal and the suspension does not affect the premier league test so thats good news so things are looking good forget what the papers say most of it is all made up as they have nothing else to write and if you look at most papers when it comes to football all of it is made up

king chong says...
12:42pm Thu 2 Sep 10

Twenty-one lines of words broken up by two full-stops. Nice work, at least you've learned to tone down the capital letters thing...

I say give Mr Syed the benefit of the doubt for now. We don't know much about anything which is happening. I am sure JW will be as always, very careful, and I can't see the Walkers giving the club to someone who they don't believe is up to task.

I could be wrong, and admittedly there are a couple of things which don't quite add up, but for now we must wait.

bluenwhite says...
12:43pm Thu 2 Sep 10

cmon LET. How about you get a statement from rovers about how the deal is progressing?? Are they concerned or not?

Roverite says...
1:02pm Thu 2 Sep 10

John Bold wrote:
Great to know that the bloke supposed to be taking over our club is already lying to the fans! Looks good!
I agree with john bold - CAN YOU MORONS WHO ARE SAYING YOU ARE FINE WITH TAKING OVER OUR CLUB SEE NO FURTHER THAN THE POUND SIGNS FLASHING IN YOUR EYES!!!! For gods sake - take a look at this - he is a lying toe-rag, i even got taken in by his comments, saying all the right things to the fans to get behind him etc. But this is a very serious problem - if his business is frozen and he cannot trade he is NO BETTER THAN THAKSIN SINAWATRA!!! and look wot happned to him, you rovers fans out there who still wanta takeover to happen are sbsolute 100% 24 carat nobhe@ds, who dont care about our club and only some cash to keep it afloat - end of

28th march 2010, turf moor says...
1:10pm Thu 2 Sep 10

Roverite wrote:
John Bold wrote: Great to know that the bloke supposed to be taking over our club is already lying to the fans! Looks good!
I agree with john bold - CAN YOU MORONS WHO ARE SAYING YOU ARE FINE WITH TAKING OVER OUR CLUB SEE NO FURTHER THAN THE POUND SIGNS FLASHING IN YOUR EYES!!!! For gods sake - take a look at this - he is a lying toe-rag, i even got taken in by his comments, saying all the right things to the fans to get behind him etc. But this is a very serious problem - if his business is frozen and he cannot trade he is NO BETTER THAN THAKSIN SINAWATRA!!! and look wot happned to him, you rovers fans out there who still wanta takeover to happen are sbsolute 100% 24 carat nobhe@ds, who dont care about our club and only some cash to keep it afloat - end of
ye but if we dont get the money the will not be prem football at ewood for a lond time but league two football so your the one dosent care about are club part timer. i presume your an allardyce **** **** aswell

duke bar says...
1:20pm Thu 2 Sep 10

Keep Rovers owned by local people .
I am a clarets fan ,Rovers are in a better place than us right now. I am not keen on all these dodgey investors in football clubs from overseas is not good for the game.

John Bold says...
1:34pm Thu 2 Sep 10

I'm certainly not an "allardyce **** **** aswell," yet i am 100% against this transfer. It screams of some shoddy cowboy business.
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Also, how can showing concern for the future of the club be classed as "club part timer"? 28th march 2010; what a complete no brained numpty.
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Why are people so blinded by the $$$? The guy is a crook.

cathedral citi says...
1:42pm Thu 2 Sep 10

i smell a rat! all of a sudden, several tycoons have shown interest in taking over Rovers. Syed has been the most serious contender so far. Therefore feasible, that the other contenders, or at least one of them, has put 'the oar in' to try and destabilise the process. There's many a corrupt official, willing to take a bribe, and i'm sure there are officiasl in the middle east prepared to rock the boat for the right price.........as i say, i smell a rat........

Miller11 says...
1:45pm Thu 2 Sep 10

28th march 2010, turf moor wrote:
Roverite wrote:
John Bold wrote: Great to know that the bloke supposed to be taking over our club is already lying to the fans! Looks good!
I agree with john bold - CAN YOU MORONS WHO ARE SAYING YOU ARE FINE WITH TAKING OVER OUR CLUB SEE NO FURTHER THAN THE POUND SIGNS FLASHING IN YOUR EYES!!!! For gods sake - take a look at this - he is a lying toe-rag, i even got taken in by his comments, saying all the right things to the fans to get behind him etc. But this is a very serious problem - if his business is frozen and he cannot trade he is NO BETTER THAN THAKSIN SINAWATRA!!! and look wot happned to him, you rovers fans out there who still wanta takeover to happen are sbsolute 100% 24 carat nobhe@ds, who dont care about our club and only some cash to keep it afloat - end of
ye but if we dont get the money the will not be prem football at ewood for a lond time but league two football so your the one dosent care about are club part timer. i presume your an allardyce **** **** aswell
THERE MIGHT NOT BE ANY BLOODY MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!

So you really think the current regime are going to send us into the 4th tier for the first time in our clubs existence? Despite the fact they have given us a longer run in the top flight then we managed when Jack Walker was alive? Despite the fact they have brought us only the second trophy in the vast majority of Rovers fans living memory?

But no, unless we get this dodgy "business man", who has proven to be out of touch with the fans, the game, and indeed reality, comes in, we are doomed to 4th division football?

Anyway, I'd prefer to see us playing in League 2 than see us go out of business!
One team will go bang very soon... it will almost certainly be a team under new foreign ownership!

kick out says...
2:06pm Thu 2 Sep 10

Miller11, Mill Hill
what has he lied about you dont know if he has got no money do you have joint account with him
why are you making **** up for no reason if he had no money then he would lnot be allowed to do due diligence you **** thick or what

kick out says...
2:08pm Thu 2 Sep 10

listen takeover is nearly complete so go and kill yourself

BJS says...
2:08pm Thu 2 Sep 10

bluenwhite wrote:
cmon LET. How about you get a statement from rovers about how the deal is progressing?? Are they concerned or not?
Good idea. How about a bit of good investigative journalism by someone on the LET. Are the LET unable or unwilling to seek out JW and get some sort of scoop instead of re-writing stories that originate elsewhere?

ghanto says...
2:08pm Thu 2 Sep 10

how did blackburn jump in selling the club for the start off with

why did indian come to rescue

Miller11 says...
2:23pm Thu 2 Sep 10

kick out wrote:
Miller11, Mill Hill
what has he lied about you dont know if he has got no money do you have joint account with him
why are you making **** up for no reason if he had no money then he would lnot be allowed to do due diligence you **** thick or what
For starters I know he doesn't have a billion pounds.

He has about as good a grasp of my football club as you have of the English Language.

How do you know he has money? I take it you have a joint account with him?

MerlinTheVoiceofReason says...
2:27pm Thu 2 Sep 10

Our friends over at Eastlands might just have been engaging in a bit of dirty play behind the scenes in Bahrain. For every mega wealthy owner that enters football, the chances of making a return on investment just gets statistically harder and the City financiers are in it to make a profit.

kick out says...
2:36pm Thu 2 Sep 10

what you going on about language you **** i have top marks in all subjects which i know you dont and matter closed on english now we go onto syed who told you he has not got billion pounds did you withdraw it all
Get used to the fact the takeover will be completed as its money from his personal fortune so get over the fact that walkers are dead

Miller11 says...
2:40pm Thu 2 Sep 10

kick out wrote:
what you going on about language you **** i have top marks in all subjects which i know you dont and matter closed on english now we go onto syed who told you he has not got billion pounds did you withdraw it all
Get used to the fact the takeover will be completed as its money from his personal fortune so get over the fact that walkers are dead
Did you get a gold star as well?

A Darener says...
2:43pm Thu 2 Sep 10

A week back I asked the innocent question, what's happening to the take over? We hadn't heard much. I was bombarded with responses saying wait and see, all in good time. Well to those that told me to be patient, what the hell's happening? The s.... certainly seems to have hit the fan! Who behind the scene is stirring it? Is there a hidden agenda?

kick out says...
2:50pm Thu 2 Sep 10

there is a hidden agenda as papers dont have anys stories to write so they get onto the back of syed also same stories everyday.
Tomorrow they will be writing that he is a mafia they might as well come to me and ill tell them a story about LET smelling of **** and all the other papers full of crap might put them to sleep once and for all.
Miller11, Mill Hill as for your question on gold yeah i got a medal so big i can sell it and buy all the football clubs
Miller11, Mill Hill

barryinthailand says...
3:05pm Thu 2 Sep 10

Blackburn MP and Rovers season ticket holder Jack Straw said he believed the Walker Trust would thoroughly research any potential buyer.

He said: "The club is well known for being very well run and has been since the time of Jack Walker.

Jack or is it John? you are either stupid or spineless. The club was run far better before Jack Walker came than after and that is the reason
we stayed on the edges, Garner, Brotherstone, Heaton, Jones, Burgin, Metcalfe, Endean or do you not remember these guys.

Puck you you cockenee and just go and die quietly back home now you have been booted out of politics...dont tell us what your 300k a year job made you an expert at. You aint from Blackburn and never will be, just go away and fade.

eddie the eagle says...
3:06pm Thu 2 Sep 10

kick out wrote:
what you going on about language you **** i have top marks in all subjects which i know you dont and matter closed on english now we go onto syed who told you he has not got billion pounds did you withdraw it all Get used to the fact the takeover will be completed as its money from his personal fortune so get over the fact that walkers are dead
Top marks in everything is that at Primary or Big school.Back to school on Monday so that might keep you quiet.

John Bold says...
3:15pm Thu 2 Sep 10

barryinthailand wrote:
Blackburn MP and Rovers season ticket holder Jack Straw said he believed the Walker Trust would thoroughly research any potential buyer.

He said: "The club is well known for being very well run and has been since the time of Jack Walker.

Jack or is it John? you are either stupid or spineless. The club was run far better before Jack Walker came than after and that is the reason
we stayed on the edges, Garner, Brotherstone, Heaton, Jones, Burgin, Metcalfe, Endean or do you not remember these guys.

Puck you you cockenee and just go and die quietly back home now you have been booted out of politics...dont tell us what your 300k a year job made you an expert at. You aint from Blackburn and never will be, just go away and fade.
Says Barry. In Thailand.

Iii1111 says...
3:25pm Thu 2 Sep 10

kick out wrote:
what you going on about language you **** i have top marks in all subjects which i know you dont and matter closed on english now we go onto syed who told you he has not got billion pounds did you withdraw it all Get used to the fact the takeover will be completed as its money from his personal fortune so get over the fact that walkers are dead
A quote from your previous post….
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“…what you lot going on about the telelgraph have nothing else to right about…”
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Bet you have a clue whats wrong with that exert besides that you can’t spell telegraph…you’re one opinionated
thick bast***D

John Bold says...
3:30pm Thu 2 Sep 10

Iii1111 wrote:
kick out wrote:
what you going on about language you **** i have top marks in all subjects which i know you dont and matter closed on english now we go onto syed who told you he has not got billion pounds did you withdraw it all Get used to the fact the takeover will be completed as its money from his personal fortune so get over the fact that walkers are dead
A quote from your previous post….
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“…what you lot going on about the telelgraph have nothing else to right about…”
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Bet you have a clue whats wrong with that exert besides that you can’t spell telegraph…you’re one opinionated
thick bast***D
I think your being very kind with that assessment Iii1111! The guy is a complete and utter moron.

A Darener says...
3:41pm Thu 2 Sep 10

"Excerpt" If you are going to give English lessons at least learn to spell!

–noun
1. a passage or quotation taken or selected from a book, document, film, or the like; extract.
–verb (used with object)
2. to take or select (a passage) from a book, film, or the like; extract.
3. to take or select passages from (a book, film, or the like); abridge by choosing representative sections.

John Bold says...
3:49pm Thu 2 Sep 10

"Excerpt" 1. a passage or quoation...


ped·ant (pdnt)
n.
1. One who pays undue attention to book learning and formal rules.
2. One who exhibits one's learning or scholarship ostentatiously.
3. Obsolete A schoolmaster.
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;-)

batfastard says...
3:57pm Thu 2 Sep 10

Nobody talking about suing the BBC anymore?
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PMSL - this guy sounds dodgier than those guys who bought Pompey.

barryinthailand says...
4:00pm Thu 2 Sep 10

John Bold wrote:
barryinthailand wrote: Blackburn MP and Rovers season ticket holder Jack Straw said he believed the Walker Trust would thoroughly research any potential buyer. He said: "The club is well known for being very well run and has been since the time of Jack Walker. Jack or is it John? you are either stupid or spineless. The club was run far better before Jack Walker came than after and that is the reason we stayed on the edges, Garner, Brotherstone, Heaton, Jones, Burgin, Metcalfe, Endean or do you not remember these guys. Puck you you cockenee and just go and die quietly back home now you have been booted out of politics...dont tell us what your 300k a year job made you an expert at. You aint from Blackburn and never will be, just go away and fade.
Says Barry. In Thailand.
And while growing up with the parasite MP after having Barbara Castle before him made it easy to leave.

Your from Lancaster what do you know? day out in a big city watching morecambe I imagine...lol

John Bold says...
4:15pm Thu 2 Sep 10

lol barry. lol indeed. you retard. thats actually an old thing that needs changing. i'm from blackburn. moved to lancaster. and then now back to accrington.

barryinthailand says...
4:25pm Thu 2 Sep 10

John Bold wrote:
lol barry. lol indeed. you retard. thats actually an old thing that needs changing. i'm from blackburn. moved to lancaster. and then now back to accrington.
so are you sure where you are right now John.........i updated mine when i moved just press the buttons and it works kinda good :)

Accy John I pressume you made millions on the stockmarket in Lancaster or just got kicked off your site and went back to ohh now whats its name Altham I think.

any relevance?

Paul Cockerton says...
4:25pm Thu 2 Sep 10

BJS wrote:
bluenwhite wrote: cmon LET. How about you get a statement from rovers about how the deal is progressing?? Are they concerned or not?
Good idea. How about a bit of good investigative journalism by someone on the LET. Are the LET unable or unwilling to seek out JW and get some sort of scoop instead of re-writing stories that originate elsewhere?
As we have mentioned before, no-one at Rovers, including John Williams, is able to comment on the negotiations due to non-disclosure agreements.

Besides, as far as I am aware, any possible sale of the club is down to its owners the Walker Trust and its representatives Rothchilds, rather than John Williams.

There is, however, a two-page question-and-answer session between Andy Cryer and John Williams in tomorrow's Lancashire Telegraph about all aspects of the club though inevitably little about the possible takeover.

John Bold says...
4:34pm Thu 2 Sep 10

barryinthailand wrote:
John Bold wrote:
lol barry. lol indeed. you retard. thats actually an old thing that needs changing. i'm from blackburn. moved to lancaster. and then now back to accrington.
so are you sure where you are right now John.........i updated mine when i moved just press the buttons and it works kinda good :)

Accy John I pressume you made millions on the stockmarket in Lancaster or just got kicked off your site and went back to ohh now whats its name Altham I think.

any relevance?
Sorry Barry. no millions for me. We can't all be a successful as you evidently are. But at least i have something to aspire. Maybe one day, just one day, I'll be as satisfied with my life as Barry the Ba$tard.

John Bold says...
4:36pm Thu 2 Sep 10

Sorry, forget to say. Barry, you're a T0SSER. ok?

BJS says...
4:41pm Thu 2 Sep 10

Paul Cockerton wrote:
BJS wrote:
bluenwhite wrote: cmon LET. How about you get a statement from rovers about how the deal is progressing?? Are they concerned or not?
Good idea. How about a bit of good investigative journalism by someone on the LET. Are the LET unable or unwilling to seek out JW and get some sort of scoop instead of re-writing stories that originate elsewhere?
As we have mentioned before, no-one at Rovers, including John Williams, is able to comment on the negotiations due to non-disclosure agreements.

Besides, as far as I am aware, any possible sale of the club is down to its owners the Walker Trust and its representatives Rothchilds, rather than John Williams.

There is, however, a two-page question-and-answer session between Andy Cryer and John Williams in tomorrow's Lancashire Telegraph about all aspects of the club though inevitably little about the possible takeover.
We don't expect any details from JW, but a simple "negotiations are proceeding satisfactorily" would put a lot of minds at rest

barryinthailand says...
4:42pm Thu 2 Sep 10

Thats fine John (obviously not from here) as Altham means Jack **** to you

John Bold says...
4:48pm Thu 2 Sep 10

No Barry. I'm lying about living in glamour capital Accrington. Lying. about living in Accrington. yep. compute that.

barryinthailand says...
5:00pm Thu 2 Sep 10

so again you long time rovers fan...........altham and compute

BazTowers says...
6:01pm Thu 2 Sep 10

alright guys, been a long time reader off the comments section on various topics about the mighty rovers. never been bothered to register but the tripe that barryinthailand is putting in front of me has forced me to. you barry are a pratt, get back to your bride or your chick boys or whatever it is that entertains you over in thailand and stop making a fool out of yourself.

kick out says...
6:43pm Thu 2 Sep 10

aul Cockerton wrote:
BJS wrote:
bluenwhite wrote: cmon LET. How about you get a statement from rovers about how the deal is progressing?? Are they concerned or not?
Good idea. How about a bit of good investigative journalism by someone on the LET. Are the LET unable or unwilling to seek out JW and get some sort of scoop instead of re-writing stories that originate elsewhere?
As we have mentioned before, no-one at Rovers, including John Williams, is able to comment on the negotiations due to non-disclosure agreements.

Besides, as far as I am aware, any possible sale of the club is down to its owners the Walker Trust and its representatives Rothchilds, rather than John Williams.

There is, however, a two-page question-and-answer session between Andy Cryer and John Williams in tomorrow's Lancashire Telegraph about all aspects of the club though inevitably little about the possible takeover.

I know they have signed a non-disclosure but can john williams tell everyone just a yes or a no to say if everything is going well as mr syed has said in his statements that everything is fine and he is going to buy the club

rebelmswar says...
7:21pm Thu 2 Sep 10

batfastard wrote:
Nobody talking about suing the BBC anymore? . PMSL - this guy sounds dodgier than those guys who bought Pompey.
Hmmmm.

Well thought out and constructive comment there, just surprised you could tear yourself away from the backend of your sheep.

Go and collect some coppers for your clubs wage bill.

BlueSkies says...
8:06pm Thu 2 Sep 10

Calm down folks, there's not a lot we can do as fans, except hope that the correct decisions are made for the future of BRFC.
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We won't know until after things have happened and perhaps then the facts will begin to emerge. But, we'll be the last to know the truth.
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As for transfer cash this summer, the £2m plus for FatBennie and the extra dosh for finishing 10th has almost certainly gone to the Walker Trust, who want their money back.
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That's not a criticism of the Walker Trust who obviously have their own agenda and interests to pursue. I'd like to thank them for their support during the post-Jack era.
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It'd be interesting to hear what the great man would be saying about the current situation and how he'd like it to unfold.
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Speak to us, Jack.

icannotrace says...
8:30pm Thu 2 Sep 10

So not only has he lied about his wealth his spin doctors have been caught lying about the state of his business in Bahrain, "moving offices" my ar%e.
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And still kick out goes on like Syed's the best thing since sliced bread.
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As BRFC 1959 says earlier and the other day along with all the realists "smoke and fire".

icannotrace says...
8:45pm Thu 2 Sep 10

John Bold wrote:
Great to know that the bloke supposed to be taking over our club is already lying to the fans! Looks good!
I don't think Syed can lie straight in bed. I'm just waiting for him to tell the truth.
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Now that would be a novelty

daan says...
9:16pm Thu 2 Sep 10

I think that he thinks he's got no money so she thinks we think that theyve got no money and he thinks they do, he's arguing the point that they think we think he's got lots of money so that we think that the company has lots of money, but I think he knows they are thinking it so we think its all a conspiracy ! but I do hope it happens !!!

flanders says...
10:10pm Thu 2 Sep 10

This is all unbearable. Everyones gettin tetchy. Turnin into a nightmare. Where is Woody the Riversider? Would love to hear his take on all this. The waiting game is rubbish. Lets play Hungry Hippo's instead!

Stone Island says...
11:29pm Thu 2 Sep 10

BlueSkies wrote:
Calm down folks, there's not a lot we can do as fans, except hope that the correct decisions are made for the future of BRFC. . We won't know until after things have happened and perhaps then the facts will begin to emerge. But, we'll be the last to know the truth. . As for transfer cash this summer, the £2m plus for FatBennie and the extra dosh for finishing 10th has almost certainly gone to the Walker Trust, who want their money back. . That's not a criticism of the Walker Trust who obviously have their own agenda and interests to pursue. I'd like to thank them for their support during the post-Jack era. . It'd be interesting to hear what the great man would be saying about the current situation and how he'd like it to unfold. . Speak to us, Jack.
I know exactly what Jack Walker will be saying, but it's unprintable in a family newspaper!!!!!!!!!!!
!

tinybrfc says...
3:58am Fri 3 Sep 10

Jack Walker's commitment to our club was beyond question but even he told other people to throw their hat in the ring a long time ago.His dream was for the Rovers to be self financing but alas that is not to be.I for one understand that we need investment to be able to sustain Premier League status and to that extent as a club we have to court suitable buyers, I dont know if this Syed guy is for real, he talks the talk but so does the Shah guy and I cant find either on a search with Forbes.All of a sudden after a couple of years of the club being up for sale we got so much interst it's like a fire sale.I'm sceptical at best and very worried at worst but there is absolutely nothing I can do about it,John Williams for all the good that he has done for BRFC is a paid employee and really doesn't have much say in the matter.Foreign talkover's seem to be the norm nowadays,I dont like it but that's not going to change it.Things will take their course but as long as there are real fans of BRFC we will have our club forever.
Bye the way Kick Out,you talk the most sh1t I've ever heard in my life

The ball is round so pass it! says...
7:49am Fri 3 Sep 10

Lets trust "The Walker Trust" to do the right thing. The new tightened up rules should stop another Portsmouth and the Trust have shown with other bids they won't put the club in peril to someone who borrows to buy the club.

hasslem hasslem says...
8:44am Fri 3 Sep 10

Sorry chaps - Angelina been very demanding last 24 hours.
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What's not to believe???
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1)
He wants to buy Rovers for £300m. Why? He is a supposed investor in businesses (that he is not prepared to disclose apart from a small building company in ballygobackwards and a strewth cotton business in australia). Football clubs never return on investment.
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2) He is a Rovers fan since the 90s (when he also admired Beckham) but has never set foot in Ewood Park
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3) He wants to expand the ground - Why? when we can't fill it now. The vision of "soccer" tourists coming over from sub-continent for the weekend is a bit rich, when he hasn't been to Ewood himself.
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4) He has expressed his desire to buy Beckham without a) speaking to the player and b) speaking to Allardyce
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5) He has signed a NDA - but he and his mob are chirping like a supergrass to the press on a daily basis.
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6) He is a multi-billionaire, but nobody can find any record of the size of his wealth.
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7) His company denies is has ceased trading/operating (not sure the difference in semantics although i am reasonably confident that night follows day) in the Bharain, and says it is about relocating and Ramadan. The investigation by the Govt Authorities has now been confirmed.
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8) Despite him, supposedly, investing £300m of his own money (remember its inherited wealth much like Jack's family) he has not been to Ewood to take part in the negotiations. Funny that. I have been involved in Private Equity deals and believe me the bloke who owns the purse-strings generally wants to inspect the merchandise.
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He is about as believable as my claims of Angelina Jolie keeping me a slave for her own personal desires.
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As i said at the top - what is not to believe. Syed I am right behind you.
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Flying Pigs anyone? Loads of the round here.

BRFC1959 says...
9:16am Fri 3 Sep 10

hasslem hasslem wrote:
Sorry chaps - Angelina been very demanding last 24 hours.
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What's not to believe???
.
1)
He wants to buy Rovers for £300m. Why? He is a supposed investor in businesses (that he is not prepared to disclose apart from a small building company in ballygobackwards and a strewth cotton business in australia). Football clubs never return on investment.
.
2) He is a Rovers fan since the 90s (when he also admired Beckham) but has never set foot in Ewood Park
.
3) He wants to expand the ground - Why? when we can't fill it now. The vision of "soccer" tourists coming over from sub-continent for the weekend is a bit rich, when he hasn't been to Ewood himself.
.
4) He has expressed his desire to buy Beckham without a) speaking to the player and b) speaking to Allardyce
.
5) He has signed a NDA - but he and his mob are chirping like a supergrass to the press on a daily basis.
.
6) He is a multi-billionaire, but nobody can find any record of the size of his wealth.
.
7) His company denies is has ceased trading/operating (not sure the difference in semantics although i am reasonably confident that night follows day) in the Bharain, and says it is about relocating and Ramadan. The investigation by the Govt Authorities has now been confirmed.
.
8) Despite him, supposedly, investing £300m of his own money (remember its inherited wealth much like Jack's family) he has not been to Ewood to take part in the negotiations. Funny that. I have been involved in Private Equity deals and believe me the bloke who owns the purse-strings generally wants to inspect the merchandise.
.
He is about as believable as my claims of Angelina Jolie keeping me a slave for her own personal desires.
.
As i said at the top - what is not to believe. Syed I am right behind you.
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Flying Pigs anyone? Loads of the round here.
Haslem,

Agreed....... too much smoke.... the fire might be intense......

eddie the eagle says...
9:54am Fri 3 Sep 10

HH good post plain for all to see there is a great big Question mark over this deal and a need to worry.
One thing though is it a good idea to keep having Angelina round,all that exercise is not going to aid recovery and get you back to Ewood.
Angelina has a bob or two can you not persuader to invest in Rovers.

Mike Costa says...
9:57am Fri 3 Sep 10

Mike Costa says:

I hope idiots like kickout read your observations Haslem ( though I doubt kickout has the ability to read big words). You've managed to encapsulate all the reasons why this takeover smells fishy.
I will be very surprised if it gets the green light, and if it does I can see trouble ahead. Agreed, Rovers need investment, but would you trust the judgement of a guy who is willing to put a large percentage of his supposed wealth on the line for something he cant even be bothered to view in person? People do buy goods from catalogues, but this is one hell of an expensive catalogue Syed is using !

bluenwhite says...
10:09am Fri 3 Sep 10

hasslem hasslem wrote:
Sorry chaps - Angelina been very demanding last 24 hours.
.
What's not to believe???
.
1)
He wants to buy Rovers for £300m. Why? He is a supposed investor in businesses (that he is not prepared to disclose apart from a small building company in ballygobackwards and a strewth cotton business in australia). Football clubs never return on investment.
.
2) He is a Rovers fan since the 90s (when he also admired Beckham) but has never set foot in Ewood Park
.
3) He wants to expand the ground - Why? when we can't fill it now. The vision of "soccer" tourists coming over from sub-continent for the weekend is a bit rich, when he hasn't been to Ewood himself.
.
4) He has expressed his desire to buy Beckham without a) speaking to the player and b) speaking to Allardyce
.
5) He has signed a NDA - but he and his mob are chirping like a supergrass to the press on a daily basis.
.
6) He is a multi-billionaire, but nobody can find any record of the size of his wealth.
.
7) His company denies is has ceased trading/operating (not sure the difference in semantics although i am reasonably confident that night follows day) in the Bharain, and says it is about relocating and Ramadan. The investigation by the Govt Authorities has now been confirmed.
.
8) Despite him, supposedly, investing £300m of his own money (remember its inherited wealth much like Jack's family) he has not been to Ewood to take part in the negotiations. Funny that. I have been involved in Private Equity deals and believe me the bloke who owns the purse-strings generally wants to inspect the merchandise.
.
He is about as believable as my claims of Angelina Jolie keeping me a slave for her own personal desires.
.
As i said at the top - what is not to believe. Syed I am right behind you.
.
Flying Pigs anyone? Loads of the round here.
all that time write things based on paper reports and rumour. what a kn'@b. just wait and see what happens, anyone would think you dont want the club to progress. If hes a wrong un, the process wont happen so stop ffffing moaning u saddo

Mike Costa says...
10:50am Fri 3 Sep 10

Mike Costa says:

bluenwhite. Do you realise what an imbecile you sound like? I'm guessing from your attitude that you've never held a position of responsibility. Unquestioning subservience is what this country needs on the battlefield- just look at the soldiers in the first World War. They went over the top without a murmer. Just what their Generals wanted. However, in the case of the so called takeover, it is only right to question the motives and abilities of the man who may have our club in his hands in the very near future.

Iii1111 says...
11:52am Fri 3 Sep 10

HH quality
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Ed & Mike.. realistic as ever
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B&W ..to$$er

John Bold says...
12:01pm Fri 3 Sep 10

"B&W ..to$$er"
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Seconded.

BJS says...
12:55pm Fri 3 Sep 10

Have Hasslem Hasslem and Mike Costa lost faith in John Williams, the Walker Trust, and Rothschild Investment Bank to negotiate the "right" deal for BRFC?

Mike Costa says...
1:04pm Fri 3 Sep 10

Mike Costa says;

No BJS, I haven't lost faith in John Williams, but, as someone else said, at the end of the day he is just another employee of the club. The Walker Trust means little. The Walker family, and I do have an insight to some of their thinking, want to get out at any cost. They certainly dont care about the club in the way that the old patriarch did (Oh God, I'm in danger of sounding like Vinjay!). Therefore the 'right' deal for them, may not be the right deal for the club.

And in any case, I'm sure the previous owners of Man U thought the Glazers were going to be good for the club, Moores at Liverpool thought that Gillet and the other cowboy were going to be good for Liverpool etc etc. We need to be wary of men bearing gifts.I rest my case

hasslem hasslem says...
4:07pm Fri 3 Sep 10

BJS - No I haven't lost faith in JW at all. Think he is the best Chairman in the League.
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His job role as Chariman is to maximise shareholder value and therefore if the shareholders want to sell out it is his job to extract the biggest chunk of cash possible - and that is his only objective. The shareholders in this case are the Walker Family and, I guess the Walker Trust. Now, I do not know the T&Cs of the Walker Trust and they may indeed incorporate something more than Maximising Shareholder Value. In such a case JW's objectives may change.
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.....and finally do I trust Rothschild's? Not as far as I can throw them. Merchant Banks and Corporate Financing are the wise prankers who got us into this global recession in the first place by playing monopoly with somebody else's money. They will do what is legal and take a big fat fee by doing the square root of c0ck all. Yes, I have experience of Merchant Banks and all Rothschilds have done is win the tallest dwarf competition in this instance.
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Hope that clears that up for you.

BRFC1959 says...
4:41pm Fri 3 Sep 10

hasslem hasslem wrote:
BJS - No I haven't lost faith in JW at all. Think he is the best Chairman in the League.
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His job role as Chariman is to maximise shareholder value and therefore if the shareholders want to sell out it is his job to extract the biggest chunk of cash possible - and that is his only objective. The shareholders in this case are the Walker Family and, I guess the Walker Trust. Now, I do not know the T&Cs of the Walker Trust and they may indeed incorporate something more than Maximising Shareholder Value. In such a case JW's objectives may change.
.
.....and finally do I trust Rothschild's? Not as far as I can throw them. Merchant Banks and Corporate Financing are the wise prankers who got us into this global recession in the first place by playing monopoly with somebody else's money. They will do what is legal and take a big fat fee by doing the square root of c0ck all. Yes, I have experience of Merchant Banks and all Rothschilds have done is win the tallest dwarf competition in this instance.
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Hope that clears that up for you.
Hasslem,

Again I have to agree with the content of your post and would only like to confirm that JW is actually by far the best in premier league. His honesty and clarity as well as his integrity of judgement is second to none !!! He is the most valuable asset at BRFC followed closely by Sam...

That is why Mr. Syed might sell us a lot of smoke and well written scripts but will not get it easy to purchase the club by using these commercials tricks with John.....and the FA....


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