Burnley won't throw chequebook at top flight (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Be prepared for relegation then

walshy 3-2 wrote:
Be prepared for relegation then

Any scruff reading the above must be very disappointed. Isn't it pretty obvious that they have no long term goal of staying in the premiership? For a start they seem to have policies that are geared up for the lower leagues.;
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“Any money we’ve had we’ve invested in younger players, who we’d hope would grow with us and become better players,”
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The problem with this is that if the scruff stay up, the improved young players, and the rest of the now established squad, then start to demand higher wages (comparable with other prem players at least). If they don't get it they move on to a club, who will pay them higher wages? Eventually you have to up their wages just to get the players to stay or tie them to a contract that will demand a high transfer fee to break . You might as well buy quality players who you know can do the job!!
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I'd also be very concerned about this too:
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“If we’d have tried to bring in established Premier League players, we wouldn’t have been able to afford their fee or their salary".
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Is it not the objective of any promoted clubs first season in the prem to consolidate their position? Will the purchase of two or three experienced players not help achieve that goal??? Where's the ambition here???
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And finally there's this little beauty, which is the most worrying comment:

“We’ve had to put a business plan in place to secure our future. We couldn’t go out and spend £20m and lose our place in the league, because then we’d be on a downward spiral, which has happened to some other clubs".
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.."and lose our place in the league"?????????
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This sounds like they don't want to spend because they EXPECT to get relegated and they have a plan in place to protect them from the fate that Leeds and the Saints suffered?????
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Now I'm personally enjoying this season. Our little thing is good for the area , the fans and for football. I want you scruff to stay up so that we can savour beating you twice a year, but your board seems to have other plans.......

walshy 3-2 wrote:
Be prepared for relegation then

Not as prepared as you lot need to be and look at the money you've wasted over the years (and seemingly still are!

As for other bizarre comments (I'm not going to quote the verbal diarrhoea and waste more space), the future is managing budgets more sensibly. A time will come when the money wasted by Sky and others will come back to bite them and a considered approach to financing real football will return.

What if these silly people like at City decide they don't want their toys any more, the ad revenue we all pay for slows down and like with the ITV situation only a few years ago, the world, all of a sudden isn't full of fools prepared to throw their money away.

Oil money doesn't last forever and as has been shown in Dubai over the last two years, investing in other ventures like the property market is not immune either.

Burnley will survive this season and the next, not through wastefully throwing good money down the drain, but by developing excellent players from the lower (and Scottish) divisions and bringing real football back.

It's a model for the future and it is Burnley.

Come off it wincey. This is just deluded rhetoric and is fanciful to say the least.
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Why is it that you lot insist that the scruff are "THE" best run club in the country????
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It's a well known fact that your club is broke and these policies are based on a need to survive not on ambition. The fact is this; You need MONEY to stay in the prem and if you could do this by buying second rate players from the lower leagues EVERYBODY would be doing it.
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Stop kidding yourself. If you do not invest in quality players in January The writings on the wall for you...........

NICEONESUNSHINE wrote:

walshy 3-2 wrote: Be prepared for relegation then

Any scruff reading the above must be very disappointed. Isn't it pretty obvious that they have no long term goal of staying in the premiership? For a start they seem to have policies that are geared up for the lower leagues.; . “Any money we’ve had we’ve invested in younger players, who we’d hope would grow with us and become better players,” . The problem with this is that if the scruff stay up, the improved young players, and the rest of the now established squad, then start to demand higher wages (comparable with other prem players at least). If they don't get it they move on to a club, who will pay them higher wages? Eventually you have to up their wages just to get the players to stay or tie them to a contract that will demand a high transfer fee to break . You might as well buy quality players who you know can do the job!! . I'd also be very concerned about this too: . “If we’d have tried to bring in established Premier League players, we wouldn’t have been able to afford their fee or their salary". . Is it not the objective of any promoted clubs first season in the prem to consolidate their position? Will the purchase of two or three experienced players not help achieve that goal??? Where's the ambition here??? . And finally there's this little beauty, which is the most worrying comment: “We’ve had to put a business plan in place to secure our future. We couldn’t go out and spend £20m and lose our place in the league, because then we’d be on a downward spiral, which has happened to some other clubs". . .."and lose our place in the league"????????? . This sounds like they don't want to spend because they EXPECT to get relegated and they have a plan in place to protect them from the fate that Leeds and the Saints suffered????? . Now I'm personally enjoying this season. Our little thing is good for the area , the fans and for football. I want you scruff to stay up so that we can savour beating you twice a year, but your board seems to have other plans.......

Madari the snake charmer says:

May the Madari suggest that you worry about your own littlle `Wooooosh` outfit and let God Coyle take care of the mighty clarets.....

I expect no less than an abusive tripe from a prostitutes son...NOS

The dingle bubble will burst an this season as well,in fact i reckon the City result will be the turning point for them,lat season it was pure luck that got them promoted even there chairman didnt expect them to get promoted because he gave a season ticket deal that back fired on them.
But by luck and endevour they are in the prem and after the magic first 12 games they have done ok,i predict a different story in the next 12, and these we will not throw money at the prem statements mean they aint going to stay in the prem very long,and that is for sure.

The Club has this very morning relesed what Owen will have in his war chest for new players in January,
Some W H Smiths gift vouchers, A two for one Mc Donalds Happy meal voucher (With the free toy ), And a Ten pound gift card for Netto.......But the big prize to temp all those prospecting new stars who want to play in the premiership for a few months till relegation......Is a night out all expenses paid with Mandy Dingle ( Lisa Riley) Who is often seen riding round Burnley in her open top sports Horse and cart.

interesting,

as a business owner, former fottball player and still part time coach, I can honestly see both sides of the issue.

I too am a little dissapointed by some of the comments, as in any business, investment, spent correctly means growth and success. Without investment any business will either become outdated (old) or unable to be efficient(losing).

When you do the math, a 20 million pound investment with the possible returns would seem not only do-able, but relatively inexpensive.

I do not think that burnley are planning on relegation, but neither do I think that they have the belief that they can stay up, if that sound contradictory it really isn't. I agree that any club does not want to 'do a Leeds or Charlton', but also we do not want to 'do a Watford' either.

I agree with NOS, this article, if accurate, and with the LET who knows, does nothing for my confidence in the long term planning or BFC.

I also agree that two games a year against each other is amazing, I doubt of Rovers will win both, but hey, if they do they do!

NOS - except for the inference that I am a scruff, good post, I agree with you on so many things it is starting to scare me!

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All the idiots from Fleawood are at it again.I wonder why they just can't leave the top team in Lancashire alone and read their own reports..I suppose its because they are worried about the prospect of the championship that is staring them in the face when their luck runs out
Bye Rovers we know you won't invest because big fat Sam has spent all next years money on deadlegs.

bed and breakfast man_! wrote:
The Club has this very morning relesed what Owen will have in his war chest for new players in January,
Some W H Smiths gift vouchers, A two for one Mc Donalds Happy meal voucher (With the free toy ), And a Ten pound gift card for Netto.......But the big prize to temp all those prospecting new stars who want to play in the premiership for a few months till relegation......Is a night out all expenses paid with Mandy Dingle ( Lisa Riley) Who is often seen riding round Burnley in her open top sports Horse and cart.

A technical point but what is the point of having a cheque book anyway when the bank account is empty? Floody and Kilby are both now skint and they have to pay back all the loans to property companies. It makes you wonder if they would have gone bust if they had not come up via the back door?
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B+B - I assume the above funds are the expected Xmas presents if they arrive?
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31st......

enty 46 wrote:
All the idiots from Fleawood are at it again.I wonder why they just can't leave the top team in Lancashire alone and read their own reports..I suppose its because they are worried about the prospect of the championship that is staring them in the face when their luck runs out Bye Rovers we know you won't invest because big fat Sam has spent all next years money on deadlegs.

Deadlegs???
They pi55ed all over your shower though didnt they?

If peole actually READ the article, not glimpsed though it, they would realise that all that's being said is that the budget hasn't been set yet, but it's unlikely to be £30 mill. It doesn't say what it WILL be - the majority of comments seem to be from people who think that Burnley aren't going to spend ANYTHING. One of the ongoing threads across both the Burnley and Rovers pages has been about the need to have financial stability to prepare for the changes that will inevitably come in the next few years. Many of the posters need to look back at their own hypocrocy. If their particualr club follows a certain course of action, it's considered to be "prudent", where as if the other club follows a similair course, then it means they lack ambition. Neither club's finances can be realistacally compared, either historically or under the current climate. Both clubs are following differing plans for the future. The only area for comparison is that both clubs will be "selling" clubs in the next couple of years. The sucess or failure of either club's financial policys cannot be judged in the immediate future, and not necessarily at the end of this season either. If both clubs are still in the Premiership at the end of the season, obviously that means the polocies haven't failed, but it won't be till another couple of years down the line before sucess can really be declared.

bed and breakfast man_! wrote:
The Club has this very morning relesed what Owen will have in his war chest for new players in January, Some W H Smiths gift vouchers, A two for one Mc Donalds Happy meal voucher (With the free toy ), And a Ten pound gift card for Netto.......But the big prize to temp all those prospecting new stars who want to play in the premiership for a few months till relegation......Is a night out all expenses paid with Mandy Dingle ( Lisa Riley) Who is often seen riding round Burnley in her open top sports Horse and cart.

HA HA quite witty for someone from crapburn.

enty 46 wrote:
All the idiots from Fleawood are at it again.I wonder why they just can't leave the top team in Lancashire alone and read their own reports..I suppose its because they are worried about the prospect of the championship that is staring them in the face when their luck runs out Bye Rovers we know you won't invest because big fat Sam has spent all next years money on deadlegs.

Once again its the same cobblers, posted at the same time...
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Why don't you give us an opinion on the club you apparently support or better still, feck off you boring, repetitive, old ****.
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dadada wrote:

bed and breakfast man_! wrote: The Club has this very morning relesed what Owen will have in his war chest for new players in January, Some W H Smiths gift vouchers, A two for one Mc Donalds Happy meal voucher (With the free toy ), And a Ten pound gift card for Netto.......But the big prize to temp all those prospecting new stars who want to play in the premiership for a few months till relegation......Is a night out all expenses paid with Mandy Dingle ( Lisa Riley) Who is often seen riding round Burnley in her open top sports Horse and cart.

HA HA quite witty for someone from crapburn.

Hey B&B I'm suprised that this scruff can understand any humour that is a step up from the Beano.
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When he choose his ridiculous name his sixth finger accidently typed in the d's. I think it should read...daaaaa or maybe deeeeer.
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I've noticed that some of the lamps are sneaking back on here after going missing on the 18th. They must think we've forgot what SCORE it was and what their WILD predictions were before the match......
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Hahaha they're very mistaken

enty 46 wrote:
All the idiots from Fleawood are at it again.I wonder why they just can't leave the top team in Lancashire alone and read their own reports..I suppose its because they are worried about the prospect of the championship that is staring them in the face when their luck runs out Bye Rovers we know you won't invest because big fat Sam has spent all next years money on deadlegs.

Been reporting the posts again you snivelling bore??????

Who are you trying to kid?.Fortunately, you have had a tremendous start considering you probably have one of the smallest and technicially weakest squads in the league and i don't mean that disrespectively.You are currently performing way above your own boards expectations but they like we know it won't last much longer and come January when the league starts to settle into some sort of realistic positional structure.You will be found wanting both financally and in player quality .This league, isn't for low shoestring budget pretenders and from what i saw at Ewood last month you are by far the worst team we have played yet.3-2 really flattered you and typically, Allardyce only allowed the team to play for 45 minutes, instead of putting weaker teams like yours to the sword.Our established Premiership board who know how to survive in this money made league have budgeted 41M to finish 13th, Bolton have budgeted 35M to finish lower. The question you need to be asking your board is how much have we budgeted to try and stay up?. I suspect, it will be about 20M and the lowest in the league by far.Unfortunatley, you have to be prepared to spend big money just to give yourself a fighting chance.Lets see how much the Burnley board want Premiership football next season and give you realistic hope.

What chequebook?