Blackburn Rovers to open talks with midfield duo (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Man City - Samba's yours for £14m

Everton and West Ham - £12m

Want more than that for him.
We're not having a fire sale.

man city can can have the big man for £18,000,000.....tak
e it or leave it zurhab can still do a job for us,

If John Terry (in his 30s) is worth 40 million i think Chris Samba(25) should bring us.... 25million atleast..

Sambas comments on skysports are good..

he is basiclly saying.. "i am a blackburn player, its up to them if they want to sell me, until they decided i am not commenting"

If we get a really good offer, and I think for a defender anything over 14m is good. We are not going to get anything over what Santa Cruz went for (specially as only City could afford to pay that sort of money) then Rovers might look to cash in. Allardyce already mentioned that to bring in further reinforcements they main need to sell first. And remember we have Givet now is straight replacement for Samba in centre defence and that still leave us to play Warnock at left back.

I'd be gutted if Samba went. If he played for Chelsea/Liverpool/Ar
senal/Man U, he'd be worth 25 mil!


As for the new contracts, I wouldn't start with Dunn or Reids til at least xmas. They need to prove their fitness.
They should both be appearance based.
As for Pedersen, I'd let it expire!
He'll be angling for about 40 grand a week...

Yea...

Really good idea.. Let arguably our most valuable remaining asset (MGP) leave on a free at the end of next season.

Miller you must have a pretty short memory, perhaps MGP hasnt hit the heights of his first couple of seasons for B.R.F.C, But that doesnt mean give the bloke away for free... we gonna throw Treacy in there?

As for Dunny and Reid, what happens if they both have first half of the season blinders, and feel there are better offers waiting in the summer?

get into your head WE CANNOT AFFORD TO LOSE PLAYERS LIKE THIS ON THE CHEAP!

.... unless we are gonna replace them with lower leaugue or foreign gambles

Makes me laugh they have out a picture of Reidy looking extremely fit - if they'd put Dunny in, they have needed a wider angle lens!!!

MGP Most valuable asset??? The bloke is hopeless! first couple of seasons? he only had the 1 good game at old trafford.

Miller - why wait till his contract expires? if someone wants to speak to him, I would give him away now!

Reid looked a shadow of his former self last season (when fit) and Dunn's career was a write off when we sold him first time around.

Instead of blowing £10m+ on a striker, we should look to replace these 3 players, and better quality could easily be found with the money we now have.

If Samba wanted to go, City can have him for £12m plus Dunne

if you could read mike you would have seen that i wrote "arguably" before that quote.

Can you give me an argument as to why he isnt valuable? My argument would be that he is left footed, excellent dead ball technique, good in the air, still reasonably young, with bags of premier leaugue experience, and a proven national team pedigree....

Surely your personal dislike of a player should be irrelevant to his value, and if you can state a reasonably priced "better" left footed replacement, I will back down.

This does add to the overall problem with fans "hating" players. I would never boo a member of a rovers side, I may shout and moan about an individuals performance, but im guessing Mike and Miller are the typical "sigh" spectators, whenever Benni or MGP loses the ball...

and if ever your beloved Matty D lost the ball to an average defender, or missed a sitter, you follow it with "unlucky son"

Hypycr...

mike rover wrote:
MGP Most valuable asset??? The bloke is hopeless! first couple of seasons? he only had the 1 good game at old trafford. Miller - why wait till his contract expires? if someone wants to speak to him, I would give him away now! Reid looked a shadow of his former self last season (when fit) and Dunn's career was a write off when we sold him first time around. Instead of blowing £10m+ on a striker, we should look to replace these 3 players, and better quality could easily be found with the money we now have. If Samba wanted to go, City can have him for £12m plus Dunne

Richard Dunne???????

you're avin a laff there, he's SH!TE

Samba didn't look at all comfortable when faced with pace,thet said he is a decent player good on the ball.So you would need good money for an adequate replacement plus some left for the transfer fund.He doesn't say he wants to leave he seems very honest about his situation,I don't think City will want him he's not top drawer,so without a mind numbing offer we'll keep him.

mike rover wrote:
MGP Most valuable asset??? The bloke is hopeless! first couple of seasons? he only had the 1 good game at old trafford. Miller - why wait till his contract expires? if someone wants to speak to him, I would give him away now! Reid looked a shadow of his former self last season (when fit) and Dunn's career was a write off when we sold him first time around. Instead of blowing £10m+ on a striker, we should look to replace these 3 players, and better quality could easily be found with the money we now have. If Samba wanted to go, City can have him for £12m plus Dunne

haha Dunne, I wouldnt have him on free!

If Samba goes then it's a disgrace! We need to start showing that we are not just a selling club and send a message out to the rest of the league that just because you have more money that us, doesn't mean you can take our best players.
If Samba turned round to Allardyce and handed in a transfer request it should be rejected straight away.
If we do lose Samba it would be a disaster for us, it would be the biggest loss since Colin Hendry.

cantbeleiveyourallso
stupid wrote:
if you could read mike you would have seen that i wrote "arguably" before that quote.

Can you give me an argument as to why he isnt valuable? My argument would be that he is left footed, excellent dead ball technique, good in the air, still reasonably young, with bags of premier leaugue experience, and a proven national team pedigree....

Surely your personal dislike of a player should be irrelevant to his value, and if you can state a reasonably priced "better" left footed replacement, I will back down.

This does add to the overall problem with fans "hating" players. I would never boo a member of a rovers side, I may shout and moan about an individuals performance, but im guessing Mike and Miller are the typical "sigh" spectators, whenever Benni or MGP loses the ball...

and if ever your beloved Matty D lost the ball to an average defender, or missed a sitter, you follow it with "unlucky son"

Hypycr...

Excellent dead ball technique?
Took the vast majority of free kicks. Scored zero. Our only fit striker, and biggest threat in the box ended up taking them.
Needs 15 corners to beat the first man.
I suppose you could be talking about his rancid throws.
Good in the air? When was his last headed goal? That corker in the semi-final at old Trafford? He is brilliant at pretending to jump for it, and flicking it out of play.
No, Treacy is young, but you seem quick enough to get on his back.
12 good months he's had at Rovers.
I also gaurentee I have seen more of him at international level than you. He never stands out, and often only makes the bench.
In his last international game, he disgraced himself, and should be facing a lengthly ban.
The old work-rate argument has all but died out now, hardly suprising, as it isn't there.
He has no bottle and cheats!

No, I like McCarthy. I also like Keith Andrews.
I stood by Pedersen for ages, but his pathetic performances have got too much for me.

Don't start questioning my support of the team and the players.
And trust me, I'm not one for sighing.

Short memory... no mate, you see, I remember proper wingers we've had lately. Sellars, Wilcox, Duff. Pedersen is not fit to lace their boots!


What the hell has Derbyshire got to do with anything? Obviously you aren't to keen on him.

I realise you gave up half way through. You were obviously struggling, but its spelt H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-T-E.


TAG - over to you Mike Rover!

Miller11 wrote:

cantbeleiveyourallso stupid wrote: if you could read mike you would have seen that i wrote "arguably" before that quote. Can you give me an argument as to why he isnt valuable? My argument would be that he is left footed, excellent dead ball technique, good in the air, still reasonably young, with bags of premier leaugue experience, and a proven national team pedigree.... Surely your personal dislike of a player should be irrelevant to his value, and if you can state a reasonably priced "better" left footed replacement, I will back down. This does add to the overall problem with fans "hating" players. I would never boo a member of a rovers side, I may shout and moan about an individuals performance, but im guessing Mike and Miller are the typical "sigh" spectators, whenever Benni or MGP loses the ball... and if ever your beloved Matty D lost the ball to an average defender, or missed a sitter, you follow it with "unlucky son" Hypycr...

Excellent dead ball technique? Took the vast majority of free kicks. Scored zero. Our only fit striker, and biggest threat in the box ended up taking them. Needs 15 corners to beat the first man. I suppose you could be talking about his rancid throws. Good in the air? When was his last headed goal? That corker in the semi-final at old Trafford? He is brilliant at pretending to jump for it, and flicking it out of play. No, Treacy is young, but you seem quick enough to get on his back. 12 good months he's had at Rovers. I also gaurentee I have seen more of him at international level than you. He never stands out, and often only makes the bench. In his last international game, he disgraced himself, and should be facing a lengthly ban. The old work-rate argument has all but died out now, hardly suprising, as it isn't there. He has no bottle and cheats! No, I like McCarthy. I also like Keith Andrews. I stood by Pedersen for ages, but his pathetic performances have got too much for me. Don't start questioning my support of the team and the players. And trust me, I'm not one for sighing. Short memory... no mate, you see, I remember proper wingers we've had lately. Sellars, Wilcox, Duff. Pedersen is not fit to lace their boots! What the hell has Derbyshire got to do with anything? Obviously you aren't to keen on him. I realise you gave up half way through. You were obviously struggling, but its spelt H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-T-E. TAG - over to you Mike Rover!

Cant believe your so stupid

“Arguably” - good word- Pedersen was arguably our worst player last season! Why? Because he cant beat a man, he cant cross a ball, he cant score, “excellent dead ball technique” yeah right I remember all those spectacular goals he’s scored, oh, and he’s a cheat……………


If Dunn and Reid play half a dozen games between them, before now and xmas I’ll be surprised -if your comments do come to fruition then which club in their right minds will pay big bucks to prise them away from Ewood? knowing the pair’s injury record! Think you need to get real -Miller11 is right, keep them dangling for a new contact until we can really assess and see what real shape they are in -instead of blowing tens of thousands on wages for them, just to sit on the treatment table AGAIN!!

Most teams now are selling clubs (and that includes Man U) If Rovers get a good offer for a player then its best to sell -last thing we want is a unhappy player on our books(Cruz)who won’t give his all and in the meantime his value drops-we were lucky with the sale of Cruz, getting roughly what was offered previously!

looking at the picture, I think i can see the problem. Steve Reid has got a belt around his chest - i'm not surprised he can't get fit with that on. Christ, all this state of the art technology, and they haven't noticed that!

jeppo wrote:
looking at the picture, I think i can see the problem. Steve Reid has got a belt around his chest - i'm not surprised he can't get fit with that on. Christ, all this state of the art technology, and they haven't noticed that!

Nah, cant you see he’s pulling a tractor-we do it all the time down here summmerset!

MARGHEN"This is a real lancs work out,he's pulling Dunny!

Miller11 wrote:

cantbeleiveyourallso stupid wrote: if you could read mike you would have seen that i wrote "arguably" before that quote. Can you give me an argument as to why he isnt valuable? My argument would be that he is left footed, excellent dead ball technique, good in the air, still reasonably young, with bags of premier leaugue experience, and a proven national team pedigree.... Surely your personal dislike of a player should be irrelevant to his value, and if you can state a reasonably priced "better" left footed replacement, I will back down. This does add to the overall problem with fans "hating" players. I would never boo a member of a rovers side, I may shout and moan about an individuals performance, but im guessing Mike and Miller are the typical "sigh" spectators, whenever Benni or MGP loses the ball... and if ever your beloved Matty D lost the ball to an average defender, or missed a sitter, you follow it with "unlucky son" Hypycr...

Excellent dead ball technique? Took the vast majority of free kicks. Scored zero. Our only fit striker, and biggest threat in the box ended up taking them. Needs 15 corners to beat the first man. I suppose you could be talking about his rancid throws. Good in the air? When was his last headed goal? That corker in the semi-final at old Trafford? He is brilliant at pretending to jump for it, and flicking it out of play. No, Treacy is young, but you seem quick enough to get on his back. 12 good months he's had at Rovers. I also gaurentee I have seen more of him at international level than you. He never stands out, and often only makes the bench. In his last international game, he disgraced himself, and should be facing a lengthly ban. The old work-rate argument has all but died out now, hardly suprising, as it isn't there. He has no bottle and cheats! No, I like McCarthy. I also like Keith Andrews. I stood by Pedersen for ages, but his pathetic performances have got too much for me. Don't start questioning my support of the team and the players. And trust me, I'm not one for sighing. Short memory... no mate, you see, I remember proper wingers we've had lately. Sellars, Wilcox, Duff. Pedersen is not fit to lace their boots! What the hell has Derbyshire got to do with anything? Obviously you aren't to keen on him. I realise you gave up half way through. You were obviously struggling, but its spelt H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-T-E. TAG - over to you Mike Rover!

I get the impression your not overly keen on Pedersen. Unfortunately BFS seems to like him.

Maybe competition from this new Van Heerden can motivate him. I think hes past his sell by date.

In MGPs defence he was in the top 10 of goal assist chart in the Premier League.

Eddie... that's quality! It'll get him into practice for when the season starts!!I know you've given me a bit of a big up on the other page, regardless of that, I would still be complimenting you on your humour for the above!!

champs95 wrote:

Miller11 wrote:

cantbeleiveyourallso stupid wrote: if you could read mike you would have seen that i wrote "arguably" before that quote. Can you give me an argument as to why he isnt valuable? My argument would be that he is left footed, excellent dead ball technique, good in the air, still reasonably young, with bags of premier leaugue experience, and a proven national team pedigree.... Surely your personal dislike of a player should be irrelevant to his value, and if you can state a reasonably priced "better" left footed replacement, I will back down. This does add to the overall problem with fans "hating" players. I would never boo a member of a rovers side, I may shout and moan about an individuals performance, but im guessing Mike and Miller are the typical "sigh" spectators, whenever Benni or MGP loses the ball... and if ever your beloved Matty D lost the ball to an average defender, or missed a sitter, you follow it with "unlucky son" Hypycr...

Excellent dead ball technique? Took the vast majority of free kicks. Scored zero. Our only fit striker, and biggest threat in the box ended up taking them. Needs 15 corners to beat the first man. I suppose you could be talking about his rancid throws. Good in the air? When was his last headed goal? That corker in the semi-final at old Trafford? He is brilliant at pretending to jump for it, and flicking it out of play. No, Treacy is young, but you seem quick enough to get on his back. 12 good months he's had at Rovers. I also gaurentee I have seen more of him at international level than you. He never stands out, and often only makes the bench. In his last international game, he disgraced himself, and should be facing a lengthly ban. The old work-rate argument has all but died out now, hardly suprising, as it isn't there. He has no bottle and cheats! No, I like McCarthy. I also like Keith Andrews. I stood by Pedersen for ages, but his pathetic performances have got too much for me. Don't start questioning my support of the team and the players. And trust me, I'm not one for sighing. Short memory... no mate, you see, I remember proper wingers we've had lately. Sellars, Wilcox, Duff. Pedersen is not fit to lace their boots! What the hell has Derbyshire got to do with anything? Obviously you aren't to keen on him. I realise you gave up half way through. You were obviously struggling, but its spelt H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-T-E. TAG - over to you Mike Rover!

I get the impression your not overly keen on Pedersen. Unfortunately BFS seems to like him. Maybe competition from this new Van Heerden can motivate him. I think hes past his sell by date. In MGPs defence he was in the top 10 of goal assist chart in the Premier League.

I struggle with regards to morten yes he is a proven player and the lad is a tryer but corners? no! freekicks? no! pace? not much! crossing? no! scoring? no!I like the lads commitment but I dont think he's the player we all wanted and thought he would turn into.

In a time where the club is looking to get rid of deadweight to reduce the wage bill, surely Dunn and Reid should be near the top of the list?

Allardyce's reasoning for not pursuing Michael Owen is that he can't gamble on someone who may not give him 30 games. I doubt Reid has managed 30 games in the past 2 or 3 years combined and Dunn isn't far behind him. I know that we are pretty short in midfield and that, on their day and fit, Dunn and Reid have the makings of a good pairing, but I don't think we should be beating the door down to offer them a new deal - let them prove in pre-season that they are worth it, by staying fit and playing well.

As for Pedersen - no he's not been at the races the past couple of years. It's been pretty much since he missed that header in the FA Cup semi against Chelsea, his game has gone downhill. Unfortunately, we do not have any alternatives in our current squad (Treacy, young or not, isn't up to it - at least not yet) nor do we have the money to find a replacement. Although many try, I don't think you can fault the defensive side of his game, but that is really only secondary - he needs to be producing at the other end. I agree that his corners are frustrating, but then he isn't the first Rovers player to have that problem (Dunn, Ripley, Bentley, to name a few).

cantbeleiveyourallso
stupid wrote:
if you could read mike you would have seen that i wrote "arguably" before that quote. Can you give me an argument as to why he isnt valuable? My argument would be that he is left footed, excellent dead ball technique, good in the air, still reasonably young, with bags of premier leaugue experience, and a proven national team pedigree.... Surely your personal dislike of a player should be irrelevant to his value, and if you can state a reasonably priced "better" left footed replacement, I will back down. This does add to the overall problem with fans "hating" players. I would never boo a member of a rovers side, I may shout and moan about an individuals performance, but im guessing Mike and Miller are the typical "sigh" spectators, whenever Benni or MGP loses the ball... and if ever your beloved Matty D lost the ball to an average defender, or missed a sitter, you follow it with "unlucky son" Hypycr...

Think Miller11 has already argued well against your points. Can't remember last time he scored from a set piece, and his Corners are Shocking! Granted he takes a good throw inm, but you need more then that to get into my team!

Better players at a decent price? Adam Johnson, Ethrington, Duff, Matt Taylor all off the top of my head.

If you must know, I have always been a Benni fan, and think he should have played more over the past 2 seasons, and I think MD would never have made a Premiership player, so your opinion of me is wrong.

As for people playing down my Idea of Dunne joining if Samba goes. Addmitedly he had a poor season last year, but before that was city's player of the year 3 years running, and was widely regarded as one of the best centre backs in the league.

Dunn and Reid should be allowed to leave asap contract terminated thanks for hardly nothing, how much are these two collecting at the end of every week? jesus the club would save a fortune over a season! Iam not frilled at the prospect of blowing the entire transfer kitty on one player and there are a number of bargains to be found up in the north east should those two leave fingers crossed

Ent1y wrote:
Dunn and Reid should be allowed to leave asap contract terminated thanks for hardly nothing, how much are these two collecting at the end of every week? jesus the club would save a fortune over a season! Iam not frilled at the prospect of blowing the entire transfer kitty on one player and there are a number of bargains to be found up in the north east should those two leave fingers crossed

They've been injured you twit, if they sign new contracts then thats a sign of the loyalty we've shown them, and they still are a pair of great squad players to have, if they have a great season and someone wants to come in for em, at least if they're ona contract, we'll get somet for them.

sec word = hour pass.

Sums up the above's contibutions to a lightning midfield??
Time to draw a line and move on.
BFS has a "style" of play, will these people fit?

Flylife wrote:

Ent1y wrote: Dunn and Reid should be allowed to leave asap contract terminated thanks for hardly nothing, how much are these two collecting at the end of every week? jesus the club would save a fortune over a season! Iam not frilled at the prospect of blowing the entire transfer kitty on one player and there are a number of bargains to be found up in the north east should those two leave fingers crossed

They've been injured you twit, if they sign new contracts then thats a sign of the loyalty we've shown them, and they still are a pair of great squad players to have, if they have a great season and someone wants to come in for em, at least if they're ona contract, we'll get somet for them.

Yes I think we all know they have been injured thats defo no secret you twit! Dont know how you have missed it but we cant afford to have players missing for seasons on end we are not a utd that can cover the loss.

As for the squad players I think you will find Big Sam wants a smaller squad of fit players and those two dont fit into that kind of system at all.

I think maybe you should leave the thinking to someone else in future you obviously dont have a clue what your talking about.

eddie the eagle wrote:
MARGHEN"This is a real lancs work out,he's pulling Dunny!

least he's not carrying him-he’s one fat ….

Ent1y wrote:

Flylife wrote:

Ent1y wrote: Dunn and Reid should be allowed to leave asap contract terminated thanks for hardly nothing, how much are these two collecting at the end of every week? jesus the club would save a fortune over a season! Iam not frilled at the prospect of blowing the entire transfer kitty on one player and there are a number of bargains to be found up in the north east should those two leave fingers crossed

They've been injured you twit, if they sign new contracts then thats a sign of the loyalty we've shown them, and they still are a pair of great squad players to have, if they have a great season and someone wants to come in for em, at least if they're ona contract, we'll get somet for them.

Yes I think we all know they have been injured thats defo no secret you twit! Dont know how you have missed it but we cant afford to have players missing for seasons on end we are not a utd that can cover the loss.

As for the squad players I think you will find Big Sam wants a smaller squad of fit players and those two dont fit into that kind of system at all.

I think maybe you should leave the thinking to someone else in future you obviously dont have a clue what your talking about.

I see your point twitty, but the way sam goes on about these two indicates he'd like to see them stay.

Flylife wrote:

Ent1y wrote:

Flylife wrote:

Ent1y wrote: Dunn and Reid should be allowed to leave asap contract terminated thanks for hardly nothing, how much are these two collecting at the end of every week? jesus the club would save a fortune over a season! Iam not frilled at the prospect of blowing the entire transfer kitty on one player and there are a number of bargains to be found up in the north east should those two leave fingers crossed

They've been injured you twit, if they sign new contracts then thats a sign of the loyalty we've shown them, and they still are a pair of great squad players to have, if they have a great season and someone wants to come in for em, at least if they're ona contract, we'll get somet for them.

Yes I think we all know they have been injured thats defo no secret you twit! Dont know how you have missed it but we cant afford to have players missing for seasons on end we are not a utd that can cover the loss. As for the squad players I think you will find Big Sam wants a smaller squad of fit players and those two dont fit into that kind of system at all. I think maybe you should leave the thinking to someone else in future you obviously dont have a clue what your talking about.

I see your point twitty, but the way sam goes on about these two indicates he'd like to see them stay.

I see your point twitilda, I guess I just get fed up with players who are constantly on the treatment table, lets face it Reid would be like a new signing I just hope he can recapture the form he showed a few years back.