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Brad Friedel: I want to leave Blackburn Rovers


BRAD Friedel has paved the way for a move to Aston Villa by telling Blackburn Rovers he wants to leave.

The former United States number one has made it clear to new manager, Paul Ince, that he is keen to speak with both Villa AND Manchester City.

In the last 48 hours, Rovers have rejected bids from both clubs for the in-demand 37-year-old, who only signed a new two-year deal in February.

However, with Friedel making it clear he wants out, chairman John Williams has been forced to admit the American’s tough stance has left the club in a ‘tricky situation’.

The Rovers chief said: “We’ve had two bids for Brad, despite my insistence to the clubs concerned we didn’t want them. They’ve been rejected.

“When Brad told us he wanted to leave, it was a bolt out of the blue – he had only signed his latest contract back in February, and a replacement keeper has not even been on our radar.

“It’s an unwelcome situation for us, and particularly for Paul, who has been concentrating on other targets, as well as assessing our squad and bedding in his new backroom staff.

“We are very keen for Brad to stay but to deny him the move he clearly wants after a lengthy stint with the club is difficult.

“We know we have good players and are constantly rejecting unwanted overtures, but it’s particularly difficult to accept players leaving for clubs in and around us in the league.

“We have told Brad that, in any event, we cannot even consider a move for him, unless we can satisfy both our football and commercial requirements.

“Looking at the market for proven keepers, we haven’t got a bid that anywhere near meets the commercial part of the equation.

“I know some observers will feel that we should take Brad’s age and service into account, but it’s not that simple.

“We have not earmarked any funds for the goalkeeping department. Why would we?

“And on the football side, Brad Friedels don’t grow on trees.

“If he doesn’t get his move, although disappointed, Brad is the ultimate professional and I am confident he will remain focused on Rovers.

“But there’s no point in denying that this is a tricky situation.”

As we reported last Saturday, Villa and City are both ready to double Friedel’s wages and offer him a three-year contract, which would take him past his 40th birthday.

That prompted Ince to offer Friedel improved terms this week, but the former Liverpool ace has made it clear his heart is set on a move, and Villa is believed to be his preferred destination, with Martin O’Neill keen to wrap up a deal before tonight’s Intertoto Cup deadline.

Comments(79)

Spanish_Rover82 says...
10:45am Fri 18 Jul 08

OUR MOST LOYAL PLAYER WANTS OUT

STUNNED

RishtonSteve says...
10:48am Fri 18 Jul 08

At this rate, there will be nobody left even to turn the light out. Hope Im wrong but I fear a long hard season. We need to be pro-active and get some decent signings in quickly and lift the gloom. Absoutley stunned about Brad.

Hotspot says...
10:48am Fri 18 Jul 08

Why does money always out shine loyalty? - what other sad times are ahead ?

mike rover says...
10:51am Fri 18 Jul 08

Before he came to rovers, he had just been released by Liverpool after a pretty awfull spell, and we pretty much saved his career, when no - one else wanted him.

While at rovers his profile has gone up, allowing him to start his own "soccer" accademy, and he signed a new deal last Feb, to pretty much tie him over for life.

Now the back-stabbing, 2 faced greedy t*at wants to screw us over for more money? Brad Friedel represents everything that is wrong with a modern day footballer. The man is a disgrace. Ungrateful ****.

Morst the 88th min Heartbreaker says...
10:56am Fri 18 Jul 08

6 words required - "Sorry Brad the answer is NO"

Ribble Rover says...
10:57am Fri 18 Jul 08

I think there may be more to this than money, you think he has an issue with Ince? This has only come about since Ince arrived... I think it is a shame he has had to come out and say this, however for what he has done for us we are greatful and thank him for his services. I think we have had the best years out of him, not too many Brad Friedel's out there, prove your metal Ince!

RishtonSteve says...
10:57am Fri 18 Jul 08

When good guys like Brad act like this, who can argue with Simon Jordan. Disillussioned to say the least.

batesempire says...
10:59am Fri 18 Jul 08

These are sad times for Blackburn Rovers fans as the club could go into freefall even before a ball is kicked. I am glad the club are holding ground at this time but will these players still have the hart to put on the rovers shirt. Mr Williams do not drop the price on our stars as if they want to go we want like for like replacements. The only player I would not be botherd to see go is Bentley as its gone to his head and it was proven back end of last season still hold out for the 17mil as is a fair price in todays market. We beleave and trust just get it right

Rovers Girl says...
11:00am Fri 18 Jul 08

You can't be serious Brad!
First Bentley now you, I wonder who's going to be next. Let's just hope Incey keeps him.

swindon_rover says...
11:01am Fri 18 Jul 08

I think that now brad has said he wants out,we should be looking at selling bentley to spurs in a cash plus paul robinson deal,then sign either pennant or wright-phillips.

Ainzy says...
11:07am Fri 18 Jul 08

He has given us 8 great years so if he wants to go let him. If the rumours are to be believed then Scott Carson would be the perfect replacement had a solid season with Villa last season which saw them finish above us. And if we do sign this Carlos bloke from Chile and Castillo then we just need a right back which Ince said is his priority. I think we are in for a very exciting season down at Ewood

mj says...
11:07am Fri 18 Jul 08

it was only february when he came out saying rovers were his club and he had no reason to ever wanna leave then this. greed. thought you were different brad. i really did.

Murton_Rover says...
11:08am Fri 18 Jul 08

Why do players bother signing contracts,as they mean sweat fa to most of them

Jim Wilkinson says...
11:12am Fri 18 Jul 08

You don't have to be the brightest bulb in the pack to deduce here that Brad has been squeezed out - the instant Ince arrived we started being linked with keepers
This is ince destroying the spirit in the campthat Hughes built up with his wretched entourage of lower-division backroom staff who are already proving they are out of their depth
It's time for Williams to admit he's made a mistake and arrest this catastrophe in the bud - I expect a deluge of "Give Ince a Chance" messages from those who are unable to read between the lines of a few articles but remember my name when we're bottom of theleague and he's first sacking of the season

odarren572 says...
11:15am Fri 18 Jul 08

I'm tired of hearing all this negativity: free fall, crisis etc.. Get a grip. Friedel out Carson / Green / Robinson (at a push) in - good business, simple. Friedel now wants to go, fine for the right money. Bentley is as good as gone, good - 17 million and replace with Pennant / Larsson etc, again decent business and money freed ip for a top class right back and some decent attacking midfield options. Lastly, same goes, Santa if you want to go, lets see 15 - 20 million and again we'll replace him with a quality striker. Different times at Rovers, not worrying. Like some have said could be very exciting....who knows, but I know which way I'm thinking!

ripleywonder says...
11:16am Fri 18 Jul 08

Ultimately like 99% of Rovers fans, I would be very sorry to see Super Brad Friedel leave Blackburn Rovers. He has been utterly wonderful for Rovers, a great, great player - and a truly fantastic role model and pro. I can understand the reasons as to why he may want to leave - and I think it would be sickening if any rovers fans are nasty when speaking about him. Its a great chance for him to go to Villa - the American connection i guess may just be too strong. Ultimately sad that our team is getting looted from every angle of the premiership.

Im sick of hearing about Bentley - ship him out and just be done with it, and sort out some young fresh faces in our team. It is time to rebuild.

On another note, i personally think Steven Warnock should be made captain next year? Also in a realistic world I think Roque will just be too good to keep hold of.

Come on Incey - build a young fresh team!

Respect to a rovers legend brad friedel, thanks for everything!

Trev Manchester says...
11:16am Fri 18 Jul 08

what a horrible man, thought him and ince were mates?

RishtonSteve says...
11:19am Fri 18 Jul 08

Jim Wilkinson wrote:
You don't have to be the brightest bulb in the pack to deduce here that Brad has been squeezed out - the instant Ince arrived we started being linked with keepers This is ince destroying the spirit in the campthat Hughes built up with his wretched entourage of lower-division backroom staff who are already proving they are out of their depthIt's time for Williams to admit he's made a mistake and arrest this catastrophe in the bud - I expect a deluge of "Give Ince a Chance" messages from those who are unable to read between the lines of a few articles but remember my name when we're bottom of theleague and he's first sacking of the season
I think you could be right. From the first day Ince arrived, papers were full of Cudicini, then Robinson and now Carson...maybe Ive done Brad an injustice..He has been a great servant for us though..I wish him all the best despite being shocked

ripleywonder says...
11:21am Fri 18 Jul 08

Trev Manchester wrote:
what a horrible man, thought him and ince were mates?
you horrible little man!

Jim Wilkinson says...
11:23am Fri 18 Jul 08

Don't forget we only get half of any Bentley money (sell-on clause) - there's an exclusive for you Telegraph.

SusieF says...
11:26am Fri 18 Jul 08

When I saw the billboard this morning in Darwen I felt sick! I really hope we don't lose Brad, he has been a good servant to Blackburn for 8 years! Although signing another contract in February and now saying he wants to go is very naughty!!
Think we wouldn't miss Bentley too much, he flatters to deceive, his head hasn't been in the game most of last part of season.
As for Stevie Warnock, he is a solid rock, always there when needed.
Was glad to read Roque's comments on Sky Sports News about Blackburn, looks like we maybe able to keep hold of him.
I am still unsure about Ince, but we got to give the lad a chance!
C'mon you blues, can't wait till 16th August as long as we still got a half decent squad.
You boys got to think half full not half empty! Negative vibes don't help!

mike rover says...
11:36am Fri 18 Jul 08

Jim Wilkinson wrote:
You don't have to be the brightest bulb in the pack to deduce here that Brad has been squeezed out - the instant Ince arrived we started being linked with keepers This is ince destroying the spirit in the campthat Hughes built up with his wretched entourage of lower-division backroom staff who are already proving they are out of their depthIt's time for Williams to admit he's made a mistake and arrest this catastrophe in the bud - I expect a deluge of "Give Ince a Chance" messages from those who are unable to read between the lines of a few articles but remember my name when we're bottom of theleague and he's first sacking of the season
Paul Ince cannot stop speculation from happening in the press, so how u can slag him off for that is laughable.
As for "lower division backroom staff", when in the past 30 years has Archie Knox been out of the top flight?
also where did you hear this stuff about the spirit in the camp being damaged? or is this you playing devil's advocate?
Ince has gone on record to say he want's Brad as No.1, and both men stated they were friends at liverpool.
Face it BRAD FRIEDEL IS A GREEDY BASTE*D WHO DOES NOT CARE ABOUT THIS CLUB!
thanks for showing your true colours brad, enjoy's city's blood money.

Spookyfish says...
11:37am Fri 18 Jul 08

Let him go.

Get a bid in for Scott Carson. Ince should be building for the future, so selling OAP's is part of that

mike rover says...
11:39am Fri 18 Jul 08

Jim Wilkinson wrote:
Don't forget we only get half of any Bentley money (sell-on clause) - there's an exclusive for you Telegraph.
Dont be rediculous!

Sell on clauses are 10% at the very most. what are you on??

Spanish_Rover82 says...
11:41am Fri 18 Jul 08

Ok, Bentley out + Friedel (very reluctantly).

In: Robert Green/Scott Carson/Paul Robinson/Cudicini
Sebastian Larsson
R/B
Yossi Benayoun and/or
Carlos Villanueva
Poss Castillo

Comments..

Why did i think there was any loyalty left in football?

gerardc says...
11:41am Fri 18 Jul 08

guys, as a loyal rovers supporter myself i feel all our problems started once we didnt sign laudraup as manager, he was the obvious choice, he has done well at club level at a much higher grade than ince has, he would have the pull being who he is to keep all our players happy to stick around. i mean, who wouldnt want to play 4 laudraup? a former footie superstar... if laudraup was in charge he would be able to attract more santa cruz type quality players to the club. In relation to friedel, dont be soo hard on him, he stated a few weeks ago that he welcomed ince and was looking forward to working with him, im sure that didnt change until he actually started working with him. i mean come on, analyse what ince has said since he has arrived, he made a stupid remark (tongue in cheek me hole) at the press conference that we werent yet in trouble, not very inspiring, he has since said that his dream job would be to manage inter milan (he would jump ship in a heart beat), cop on man, do your job here and get rovers under control first because we are spiraling out of it at the moment. another thing to say on the whole friedel front, when we were starting to look at our transfer targets who did we first mention as a possibility? i dont know about the rest of you rovers fans but i found it very strange that we were talking about signing cudichni (or however else you spell that poor mans friedel). what the hell must friedel be thinking? am i wanted here by this new managment team must have been one of his first thoughts surely. so naturally when a bit of interest in him from villa or man city came in he surely had to be interested for the sake of his last footballing years. we have a manager who i beleive will fail us this season, i think he is in way over his head and we will probably be a disaster this season.
guys, i think especially in the friedel situtation we should consider everything. My hat goes off to friedel for all the class performances he has given us to date, he is a top pro. i personally salute you friedel. to finish, john williams, you have made some wonderful choices for us to date, but i hope appointing ince is your first and last boo boo. Hopefully i am wrong about ince, but i fear not....

Champion Sound says...
12:08pm Fri 18 Jul 08

If he wants to go, only a premiership goalkeeper wopuld do.

Carson from villa looks like a good choice to me, he nearly signed for stoke as the guy wants to play, he's english and hungray for football.

Brad, youve been a great servant to the club but we aint goin to let you go without a replacement in place.

AS for slagging ince off, its nothing to do with it and more to do with the money both villa and city are offering

jukes says...
12:29pm Fri 18 Jul 08

what an utter disgrace. that an walked on water at ewood. if hes still there 1st game of the season he'll be booed to feck! get him out and bentley. and anyone else who dont wana stay.

bit upsetting tho. dont wana sound to negative but i dont think this would have happend if laudrup would have come in!

please mr ince make an inspired signing to cheer up all the rovers fans!!

true-blue says...
12:30pm Fri 18 Jul 08

i no its dissapointing the way this has come out but fair play to brad friedel he is the best blackburn goalkeeper in my lifetime and in this day and age 8 years is a very long time.

i still think brad is the best buy i have ever seen £0 for an ever present goalkeeper who saved us more points than i like to think about

and on replacements what about that espanyol keeper kemeni would be mint or id be happy with robbinson carson or cudicini

Stevo says...
12:30pm Fri 18 Jul 08

"AS for slagging ince off, its nothing to do with it and more to do with the money both villa and city are offering"

What a load of rybbish - he wants to leave because Ince is a league 2 manager, and he's realised this in the 2 or 3 weeks he's been here.

Should have gone for someone with proven experience at the top level, whether that have been Allardyce, Laudrup or even Houlier.

Roque will be next, once he's back and see's the standard of the new boss.

Trev Manchester says...
12:30pm Fri 18 Jul 08

All this cant be good for season ticket sales either, sort it out ince, we're pretty much the laughin stock of the premiership right now.

lowelife says...
12:32pm Fri 18 Jul 08

This raises several questions, most pertinently, Why do players want to leave? The answer seems to me that there is player uncertainty at Paul Ince's appointment. I have always trusted John Williams judgement but I think he has chosen the best of a medoicre bunch of candidates and was propably panicked with the suddeness of Hughes departure. I can't help feeling that if the Welshman hadn't been seduced by filthy lucre we wouldn't be in this position. As my Granny used to say, never trust a man with a beard, one who wears corduroy trousers or any Welshman!
With regard to Brad, he's 37 and still dynamite! Surely if it was only a matter of wages he could be persuaded to stay, he's a mature and intelligent man, who is not prone to hasty decisions. The man has been our virtual salvation and we owe him plenty; a renewed contract, reflecting his worth and commitment should be quickly drawn up.
As for DB, I think we would have been in this position wether Hughes was here or not and we should let the child go!

stecoward says...
12:33pm Fri 18 Jul 08

The more I see of ince the more I am convinced he has no plan of action. His management expeirence so far is getting a bunch of lower division players out of the cafe and eat pasta before a game rather than a fry up. Additonal his back room staff do not instil confidence. I think this is going to be a long and difficult season and I am just hoping that the quality of the squad that hughes built up and will keep us in the premiership.

jinkyjase says...
12:33pm Fri 18 Jul 08

Step forward John Williams.

You're appointment of a man who is blatantly out of his depth has brought all this on. His back room appointments have polarized this opinion too.

If he'd come in with a top assistant or coach none of this would have happened. This bunch of nobodies we've acquired, mainly because of Ince's inexperience, has probably made our top pro's think about jumping ship.

Even if Ince proves to be the right appointment, the football world has not perceived his appointment as that by a club 'going places' and as such they're in for our best players like vultures. The players are having their heads turned and the rest sorts itself out. I'm a williams fan, the guy is a genius but i fear, and I've said it for weeks, that he has got this one TOTALLY WRONG.

On a related issue. Has anyone thought that Friedel may have told the board he wanted to go when Ince came in? This would explain why we were linked to Cudicini so early, Ince may have had his hands tied.

I'm not looking forward to this season at all.

RishtonSteve says...
12:59pm Fri 18 Jul 08

Really trying not to be over negative, and count myself as one of John Williams' biggest supporters. He has over and over again made fantastic choices for Rovers. However, I fear this is his first mistake and only time will tell how far back we are taken

moomintroll says...
1:14pm Fri 18 Jul 08

Not at all saying that this is a blessing in disguise but if we get a decent amount for Friedel then go for Carson, who to me is a solid young english keeper who's available at a good price, that's good business. Let's not forgot, despite the snarling vitriol that i've read about Friedel being greedy and disloyal, he has been a great servant to rovers and no doubt we wouldn't be where we are today without him. When he comes back to ewood most likely in a villa shirt let's give him a decent reception.

Ainzy says...
1:32pm Fri 18 Jul 08

O my god will everyone stop slagging off Ince. The guy hasn't even had a chance yet. Maybe Friedel has been thinking off a move for a couple of months now. He might just want a new challenge. He has been here 8 years not many people still like their place of work after 8 years and go off seeking a fresh start

To all Rovers fans slagging Ince off get a grip stop crying get behind the team by the sound of it Ince has a few good players in mind he is trying to sign

Romeington says...
1:32pm Fri 18 Jul 08

jinkyjase wrote:
Step forward John Williams.You're appointment of a man who is blatantly out of his depth has brought all this on. His back room appointments have polarized this opinion too.If he'd come in with a top assistant or coach none of this would have happened. This bunch of nobodies we've acquired, mainly because of Ince's inexperience, has probably made our top pro's think about jumping ship.Even if Ince proves to be the right appointment, the football world has not perceived his appointment as that by a club 'going places' and as such they're in for our best players like vultures. The players are having their heads turned and the rest sorts itself out. I'm a williams fan, the guy is a genius but i fear, and I've said it for weeks, that he has got this one TOTALLY WRONG.On a related issue. Has anyone thought that Friedel may have told the board he wanted to go when Ince came in? This would explain why we were linked to Cudicini so early, Ince may have had his hands tied.I'm not looking forward to this season at all.
Bunch of nobodies ? you clearly have little football knowledge. Knox is one of the most experienced coaches there is, and yes more expereinced than Eddie Niedzwiecki and Howard our new sports science coach was boss of our previous sports science coach whilst they were together at bolton. And steele our new goal kepper coach is highley respected in the EPL and againg prob more experienced than Hitchcock. The only memeber of staff i may agree with you on is mathias. But we must wait to see how they do. So this buncj of nobodies is actually a much better coaching team on paper, obviously we will have to wait and see as to how they do compared to hughes and co, but calling them nobodies is a clear lack of footballing knowledge. Friedel out Carson in is good business for the present and future.

msrx6mas says...
1:53pm Fri 18 Jul 08

I think its a good time for Brad to go. Yes, he saved us a helluva lot of points but last season I noticed a few dodgy & costly mistakes creeping in - the last game against Brum for one!
All this talk of Carson and Robinson - yep, they're younger and Premiership ability so if it's a cost-neutral deal, fine, do it. I just wonder how that would make Jason Brown feel as he's surely thinking "Now's my big chance" and to be fair, his one and only standout appearance way back was the penalty save v Bolton. He's been an able understudy to Brad so lets give hima chance. He'll surely leave too if we don't.

jamie wrexham says...
2:03pm Fri 18 Jul 08

If Brad has put in a transfer request then im sure he's pretty confident the club will let him go. Obviously you dont need me to tell you that to make it worth our while we need £7m ish.

Ive had a bit of stick on here in the past for being a sheep sh@gging taffy however one benefit of that is that im also a Wales fan and I can honestly tell you that Jason Brown is genuinely a class act. Every wales fan loves this guy, ok he's not seen much first team action with us but who wud with Brad playing like he is.

I think losing Sparky was a blow but under Ince I think we will leek less goals.

If the Jason Brown thing doesnt work then we will look for a keeper but have faith.

Just a quick one to Brad "F**K off then to City you Judas if you stay I'll boo the hell out of you"

The Player says...
2:03pm Fri 18 Jul 08

So disappointed with friedel, it wasnt so long ago he was the first to come out to say he'd back ince as manager

http://www.skysports
.com/story/0,19528,1
1095_3709839,00.html

money talks.

bburnrover says...
2:08pm Fri 18 Jul 08

Stop worrying Brad should be allowed to go after the wonderful service he has given us.The fact is that Brad would need replacing soon so we should be looking at Brown taking over and a good replacement keeper,I know it is a lot of cash but Carson is a good young keeper.The recent rumours of the two midfielders joining us would also excite the fans if they eventually sign which should be a priority at the moment because the pending loss of so many of our heroes has destablised our club and depressed our fans.

The Player says...
2:10pm Fri 18 Jul 08

Ahhhh, think we just need someone to blame for all the players wanting to leave, ince or williams...

The Player says...
2:12pm Fri 18 Jul 08

Carson's signed for WBA, eyes over to other failed internationals Robinson & Green (the goalkeepers not the snging duo)

batesempire says...
2:19pm Fri 18 Jul 08

I hope that any want away Rovers players read this. Let me give you a situation QPR of the championship want to be taken seriously so they mount a 17million bid for David Bentley “for example “ Rovers have now had the valuation met for that player. Would you the player be happy to down a division with a slight chance of getting promoted that year?? I would think not. So why do you think when Blackburn Rovers award you with a new contract for your achievements that you agree to you just except the club to just bend over and let you go for pittance and leave the club in limbo. Get real its about time you showed some respect and honour your contract you have the right to refuse a new deal so when its offered but if you take it you dam well stick with it.

RishtonSteve says...
2:24pm Fri 18 Jul 08

Let all be honest. Can anyone honestly turn down double salary.????

Romeington says...
2:41pm Fri 18 Jul 08

looks like carson has gone to west brom so if brad goes who will we replace him with ? robinson looks only decent keeper left or maybe cuddincini that we can actualy get.

jinkyjase says...
2:58pm Fri 18 Jul 08

Romeington. I wouldn't say I have a clear lack of footballing knowledge, quite the opposite.

What I was attempting to point out, albeit clumsily perhaps, is that the Ince appointment and with it the resulting back room have not, by any stretch of the imagination INSPIRED the squad. If what you say about them is true then maybe it's the idea of playing for Ince they can't hack? I say 'they' because I anticipate at least two more high profile exists apart from Bents and Big Brad.

King Kenny says...
3:18pm Fri 18 Jul 08

I know Brad has given fantastic service but the message to him should be the same that it is to Bentley, Santa Cruz, Warnock or whoever. You will not be sold to clubs that are classed as our competetors, i.e Villa, Spurs, Man. City, Newcastle etc. Clubs that will be round and about us in the league and challenging for that 5th or 6th spot. Fergie wouldn't sell Heinze to Liverpool would he? You just don't sell your best players to the teams you want to compete against. Fine, if one of the top 4 come in with an attractive offer, it would be unfair, especially on Brad, to deny them that opportunity. But if it's from anyone outside the top 4, it's no brainer!

The Player says...
3:29pm Fri 18 Jul 08

http://www.skysports
.com/story/0,19528,1
1095_3834608,00.html


Carlos Villanueva TO SIGN

roversfan says...
3:34pm Fri 18 Jul 08

Friedel's apparent disaffection, with Rovers, could be a most serious matter.

I hate to say this, but 'Sparky's' desertion could come to seriously hurt Rovers. For Friedel to wish to leave, there must be some anxiety among the Players. Whether this is justified or not, has to be found out and, if Player anxiety is present, some serious thinking has to be done.

'Sparky's' exit was most inopportune. His reason for leaving was quite understandable, but his timing was the worst. Clearly, he hadn't informed John Williams - which introduced a panic situation within the Club.

Paul Ince may, or may not, be the right man for the job. Sadly, he has been thrown in at the deep end and this isn't at all fair to the man.

Wouldn't it be nice if the Players had some feeling of loyalty and rallied around their new Manager - at least until he has had time to show them who and what he is all about!?

John Smith says...
3:38pm Fri 18 Jul 08

Can I claim my money back from the season ticket if it hasn't been used?
Or do I save it to skim at Ince three home games in?

The Player says...
3:40pm Fri 18 Jul 08

http://www.mirror.co
.uk/sport/football/2
008/07/18/10-things-
about-chilean-supers
tar-carlos-villanuev
a-89520-20653591/

The Player says...
3:40pm Fri 18 Jul 08

http://www.mirror.co
.uk/sport/football/2
008/07/18/10-things-
about-chilean-supers
tar-carlos-villanuev
a-89520-20653591/

BJS says...
3:47pm Fri 18 Jul 08

Why isn't this information re-Friedel and Bentley on the Rovers web site? And signing the Chilean midfielder "on season long loan" all seems pretty pathetic to me.

Woody Riversider says...
3:54pm Fri 18 Jul 08

Morst the 88th min Heartbreaker wrote:
6 words required - "Sorry Brad the answer is NO"
Hey Morst how you doing? Had no access to computer for a while but this news of Brad is absolutly staggering. Only two choices now as for as I'm concerend(considerin
g the time scale) STEVE HARPER OR SCOTT CARSON. If everything is to be believed then we could quite possibly have 2 or 3 players half hearted playing for BRFC next seasson. What a shi**y scenario that would be. Anyhow's be well & we'll catch up in the near future. Hope Ossy & co are all well? Hey Bill have you been down yet with your ST renewal form?

Arte et labore

Guinevere says...
3:58pm Fri 18 Jul 08

If the numbers in the papers are right, then over the next three years Villa and City are guaranteeing Brad £7.5 million, Rovers are guaranteeing only £2.5m. Nobody in football is loyal to the tune of £5m.
I hope that's all it is, and not the dressing room unrest being suggested. But all the talk must be distracting the squad, whatever they think of Ince.
Not a good pre season......

Morst the 88th min Heartbreaker says...
4:29pm Fri 18 Jul 08

Woody Riversider wrote:
Morst the 88th min Heartbreaker wrote:
6 words required - "Sorry Brad the answer is NO"Hey
Morst how you doing? Had no access to computer for a while but this
news of Brad is absolutly staggering. Only two choices now as for as
I'm concerend(considerin

g the time scale) STEVE HARPER OR SCOTT CARSON. If everything is to be
believed then we could quite possibly have 2 or 3 players half hearted
playing for BRFC next seasson. What a shi**y scenario that would be.
Anyhow's be well & we'll catch up in the near future. Hope Ossy
& co are all well? Hey Bill have you been down yet with your ST
renewal form?

Arte et labore
Hey Woody - how R U? Good to have your comments back on here. I was on hols in Internet cafe in June when I saw you slagging off new website - thought you and some of the old gang were on a boycott or something. This reminds me of the Dalgliesh / Shearer effect and we must learn from it this time. I said in Jan (and got called a moaner!), for saying the lack of investment could send out the wrong message and if Hughes went etc etc. I really believe this time we mustlearn to use the word NO. We tell the players the loss of Hughes and his team is enough this summer and the club needs to stabilise and all those players who have signed long contracts (like Brad only 3 months ago) have to show some responsibility and let the club stabilise. They can always run down their contracts or be sold nearer the end of the contract but right now Rovers come first. We should not accept less than £20m for Bentley - take a stance like Villa have with Barry - Pay Up or Shut Up. BRFC come first, first and first again.

mike rover says...
5:31pm Fri 18 Jul 08

Im sorry but can someone please point me in the direction, which proves their is dressing room unrest? because I have heard nothing to suggest this is true?

Bentley came out saying he wanted to leave before Ince came, so the only person who put in a transfer request since Ince came in is Brad Greed-le!

I wonder if Ince would be getting all this stick if he was a white lancastrian, as oppose to a dark skinned cockney?

At least Newcastle fans let the manager manage a few games, and buy some players before wanting him out

martin.cat says...
6:05pm Fri 18 Jul 08

Check out the Chillean wonder kid on tube plus the mirroe he could be the next Ronaldo

http://www.mirror.co
.uk/sport/football/2
008/07/18/10-things-
about-chilean-supers
tar-carlos-villanuev
a-89520-20653591/

FOr me i would be very sad to see Brad go but would understand it. Cant understand why nasty comments are being made

As for bently he showed his colours last year when he was to big to play for the U21's I say sell sell and spend the 17 mil wisely

How about Robinson Dawson Marlbraque in part ex with 10 mil? Apparrently they are all available so.....

That Micheal Bradley has apparently be seen at the training ground so could the signings be about to begin

mike cassell says...
7:07pm Fri 18 Jul 08

Although I would be sorry to see Brad depart (especially to the likes of City,Villa,Spurs who are our rivals for the UEFA places),I am not unduly surprised. As soon as Ince was appointed, our first rumoured signing was allegedly Cudiccini. I asked myself at the time where this came from.There is surely no smoke without fire!!
So we move on. Lets give young Jason Brown a chance as clearly Hughes saw something in the lad as back up to Brad. Irrespective,we need additional back up.
Can I suggest Rovers look at the Deportivo La Coruna goalie, Dudu Awat. He is the Israeli national goalie, (30 years old) but has fallen out with the current boss at Coruna and is seeking a move. Apparently, Depor turned down a one million Euro offer from Toulouse recently. Seems a good prospect to me and is worth a punt.Get a move on Rovers.

jinkyjase says...
7:46pm Fri 18 Jul 08

mike rover wrote:
Im sorry but can someone please point me in the direction, which proves their is dressing room unrest? because I have heard nothing to suggest this is true?

Bentley came out saying he wanted to leave before Ince came, so the only person who put in a transfer request since Ince came in is Brad Greed-le!

I wonder if Ince would be getting all this stick if he was a white lancastrian, as oppose to a dark skinned cockney?

At least Newcastle fans let the manager manage a few games, and buy some players before wanting him out
Mike, I sincerely hope you are a Dingle on a wind up becuase if you are a Rovers fan I would love to meet you and break your nose after the comment that you think Rovers fans are racists. I'll say this to you once and hope it sinks in.

People from Blackburn, myself included have no issue with Paul Ince being black/white/pink or yellow. The disgruntlment is his past record and his lack of experience managing a club as big as ours, simple as that.

You are an absolute pillock.

Stevo says...
8:18pm Fri 18 Jul 08

Well said jinkyjase - it has sod all to do with the blokes colour.

Grow up Mike, you muppet - everything on here is a fans point of view - why the hell are you trying to make out it's a race issue? Prat

mike rover says...
8:38pm Fri 18 Jul 08

I did not say Blackburn fans in genral are racist at all. The vast majority are 100% behind Ince, we have one of the most friendly set of fans in the league.

But sadly, all clubs have their idiots in support.

As for the minority who are slagging Ince off with him only 3 weeks into the job? despite the fact no football has been played, and no signings have been made?

Sorry but I cannot think of any other logical explination, as to why their is so much hatred going on towards the guy.

Tez says...
9:29pm Fri 18 Jul 08

i make no excuse for my comments here today.

You all know i have have my reservations regarding Paul Ince and his lack of back bone..... he really needs to get some nuts and take stock before rovers end up fielding the tea ladies come august....

Regarding Big BRad i reas a lot of you people talking about how lyal the guy has been , other saying how hes been one of th best p;layers for rovers ove the last few saesons, i myself have watched the man in awe of what he can do.....

maybe he is dissillusioned, maybe he wants one last big pay day, who knows, what i do know tho is , if the man wants to leave we cannot slate him and call hum names, he deservesa new challenge, and he owes it to his family to get best deal he can.........i say for one thanks brad for all youve done and with what you do in the future good luck pal....

message to the fans....

stop blaming players we all know contracts are worth th paper there written on...lets get to the real problem....THE CLUB HAS NO AMBITION

message to MR Ince.....this is not premier manager 2007 sir, this is real football, real teams, and real fans, please take your head from in the sand and do something!

sonny says...
10:48pm Fri 18 Jul 08

this player "Carlos Villanueva " that rovers are widely reported to be getting on a season long loan looks the bis, have a look at him on youtube. reminds me of a young junnino or zola- short 5'8(for a footy plyr) but amazing technique and skill,powerfull shot,scores a lot of freekicks and isnt scared to make a tackle. dont know why they are getting im on loan, they should buy him now while he is easily affordable(1.5-3 mill tops, cos if hes as good as he looks he be valued at 10 mill+ after a good season in prem.

Morst the 88th min Heartbreaker says...
7:41am Sat 19 Jul 08

Tez wrote:
i make no excuse for my comments here today.

You all know i have have my reservations regarding Paul Ince and his
lack of back bone..... he really needs to get some nuts and take stock
before rovers end up fielding the tea ladies come august....

Regarding Big BRad i reas a lot of you people talking about how lyal
the guy has been , other saying how hes been one of th best p;layers
for rovers ove the last few saesons, i myself have watched the man in
awe of what he can do.....

maybe he is dissillusioned, maybe he wants one last big pay day, who
knows, what i do know tho is , if the man wants to leave we cannot
slate him and call hum names, he deservesa new challenge, and he owes
it to his family to get best deal he can.........i say for one thanks
brad for all youve done and with what you do in the future good luck
pal....

message to the fans....

stop blaming players we all know contracts are worth th paper there
written on...lets get to the real problem....THE CLUB HAS NO AMBITION

message to MR Ince.....this is not premier manager 2007 sir, this is
real football, real teams, and real fans, please take your head from in
the sand and do something!
Did you know general Custard then? Sounds like we may as well hire him listening to you. Have Man U (Ronaldo) and Villa (Barry)not played hard ball with two players who signed long contracts? At present they look like either keeping the player or getting a mega fee above the players worth as a result. All the Rovers players being courted are on long contracts and so Rovers must show the same backbone. No one should have a go at Brad or Incey for this but we should simply say NO unless the fee is a premium.

Soccerover says...
10:01am Sat 19 Jul 08

Well said Morst - everything has a price and no club is safe from assault by bigger or equivalent clubs - what a bl..dy merrygoround...

Feel rovers are under attack by other clubs because we have a new Manager and some of the other clubs are no doubt hoping to disrupt Rovers pre-season preparation etc

Anyway, as Morst says, every player has a value and I couldn't agree more i.e. if the player is on long term contract and then asks to leave - i.e. HE WANTS AWAY - put a reasonably high figure on him and wait till somebody is desperate enough to pay-up.

The power always lies with the club I feel, in as much as the player still has to perform reasonably well otherwise his value drops and club he wants to go to will not be so keen.

Let's see what happens - don't be too quick to judge the new Manager - a lot of this crap is out of his control and a great deal of it newspaper bulldust...

Councillor Michael Johnson says...
10:19am Sat 19 Jul 08

Mark Hughes moves to city then wants to take almost all of the team with him.
If he thinks that highly of our team why did he move in the first place?
Rovers should make it simple to the players, they are contracted to the club and that is where they are staying, if they did not want to be with rovers they should not have signed a new contract.
Players do not rule the club and if they want to dictate what they want then you do a bill shankley and put them in the reservers untill they see the light or you find a replacement for the right money.
How many players have moved to a big club for huge money and become a little fish in a big pond?
Duffers is one i can think of followed closley by Lucas who ended up at West Ham.
Time to put the foot down and say no this is where you are contracted to work and this is where you are staying end of story.

jinkyjase says...
10:38am Sat 19 Jul 08

mike rover wrote:
I did not say Blackburn fans in genral are racist at all. The vast majority are 100% behind Ince, we have one of the most friendly set of fans in the league.

But sadly, all clubs have their idiots in support.

As for the minority who are slagging Ince off with him only 3 weeks into the job? despite the fact no football has been played, and no signings have been made?

Sorry but I cannot think of any other logical explination, as to why their is so much hatred going on towards the guy.
Mike, two questions.

1. How do you KNOW that "the vast majority of Rovers fans are 100% behind ince"?? It's certainly not the feeling I've got in and around the town.

2. I for one didn't welcome the Ince appointment the moment it was confirmed, becuase he hasn't got the experience to manage a club of our stature. I do not see him improving or even maintaining our current league position. It should have been Laudrup, Advocaat or even McClaren, managers of proven experience. Does that make me racist?

I suggest you think long and hard before replying because your last attempt contradicted itself by intimating that if a fan is against Ince it's becuase they are racist becuase "you cannot think of any other logical explanation".

Spanish_Rover82 says...
11:03am Sat 19 Jul 08

Well, at least Ince is starting (albeit slowly) to come to his senses regarding transfers after the Fowler disaster. I was banging on about us getting in Mauro Zarate on loan this season and i see he contacted his agent about it. Though he decided to go to Lazio instead, Ince is now looking at a very similar player, Villanueva, who is half the price:)

I wouldn't mind us signing Annti Niemi if Friedel goes. He's proven quality, cheap price and a good stop gap. What do you guys think?

Rumpole says...
1:21pm Sat 19 Jul 08

Give Paul Ince a chance for gods sake, he's got more trophies under his belt than Rovers have won in years. Give him time to learn about the payers he has inherited and watch him take you to Europe. If Friedel goes, so what, Rovers will still be there. Bentleys so far up his own arse who cares where he goes
as long as the moneys right. Theres no point in having a youth set up if you're not going to utilize it and Ince was on the receiving end of new blood when Beckham and co came through at Man Utd for a ten year domination of the premier league so he knows the benefits of having good youth players, lets see if he uses them and clears out the deadheads and money grabbers.

Morst the 88th min Heartbreaker says...
4:55pm Sat 19 Jul 08

Good - Some positive quotes today. We are a top 8 team with a great squad and a manager who has a £20m transfer kitty (C£10m announced, £5m for Hughes and £3m trust bonus) "EVEN" without selling unlike Spurs, Villa, Everton ans Newcastle. And we are a not for profit club unlike the above! Unlike John Williams I would have no problem saying to Brad (who has just signed a new contract) NO, NO and NO and quote £10m to anyone who targets him!

mj says...
4:58pm Sat 19 Jul 08

cant believe your all slagin ince off. someone has approached friedel and told him they will double his wages.is this not tapping him up. What we should do is ask his agent and report the buggers. friedel was making a few mistakes last year slow coming off his line etc. his age was creepin in. do you think any prima donna footballer cares about who takes a flippin coaching session. do they hell, all they care about is their bank balance.all that league 2 staff is total nonsense. Who the hell is mark bowen? a legendary norwich defender. get off ince's back you muppets and as for jim smith, chorley askin if he could get his money back for his season ticket, we dont want fans like you anyway so f off and go and watch preston its closer you clown.

Morst the 88th min Heartbreaker says...
5:01pm Sat 19 Jul 08

P.S. - Brad - sign the new contract offer - it's very respectful of Rovers to offer it. A more cynical club would think well in 2 years we will have had the best of him and make you see out the two years on your current wage. Stay with your family!

petew27 says...
5:30pm Sat 19 Jul 08

No wonder the likes of brad friedel wants to move on as paul ince is killing the club. Clubs like villa are chasing players like Bentley and we have to go for people like keith andrews. Looks like he is the biggest name we are getting if sky sports are to be believed.

http://www.skysports
.com/story/0,19528,1
1676_3838696,00.html

mike rover says...
10:58pm Sat 19 Jul 08

You are entitled to an opinion, but to be slating Ince before a ball has even been kicked is nothing short of ludicrous.

If we are struggling near the relegation zone at christmas, then is the time to start asking questions not now.
Let me ask you some questions...


1. If Laudrup or Addvocaat did get the job, and Friedel came out asking for a transfer, would you be slagging them off?
2. How do you think we will attract managers in the future, with fans like yourself calling for people's head after only 3 weeks?

I stand by my opinion, that their is no logical explination to call for the man's head after 3 weeks in charge. Maybe you want to see Ince fail? If you want to support the club get behind the manager.

We are in danger of becomming a laughing stock, just like the toon army fans.

jinkyjase says...
10:36am Mon 21 Jul 08

Mike, I'll answer your two questions despite the fact you didn't bother answering mine and that we are coming from completely different stand points and will have to agree to disagree.

1. Completely hypothetical. My guess is no but that would be because I would trust either of the two you mentioned before Ince because of their track records and experience NOT because of race. I would even hazard a guess that we wouldn't have had an approach had we appointed one of the two you mentioned.

2. Ridiculous question, but two answers. A. Fans have got rid of managers in the past at every club in the world. Calling for a managers head is sometimes necessary. I suppose you would you say calling for the board in 89/90 was mistake considering a few days later Jack Walker took over?

B. Just because we are not in relegation scrap doesn't mean certain fans aren't allowed to think this appointment is a mistake. Sheep tow the party line mike, free thinkers have their own opinion. Mine is that Ince is a mistake...as I've said before. I HOPE TO GOD I'M WRONG.

Jim Wilkinson says...
12:50pm Mon 21 Jul 08

Just for the benefit of the cretin who said: "Sell on clauses are only 5% or so:

Carlisle United have confirmed that striker Joe Garner has a £1.14m release clause in his contract.

Garner, 20, has been linked to Nottingham Forest and United have moved to explain the situation surrounding his Carlisle future.

Chief executive David Allen told the club website: "There is nothing we can do to stop any club speaking to Joe once they have reached the trigger.

"We have always wanted to keep Joe as a Carlisle player."

The deal includes a £500,000 pay-out to Garner's former club Blackburn Rovers along with a 50% cut of sell-on fees.


Garner would also receive 5% of the fee, leaving Carlisle with a £590,000 sum.

The striker scored 14 goals in 34 appearances following his permanent £140,000 move from Rovers last August.

Sell-on clauses are therefore whatever the two negotiating parties agree.

When Rovers got Bentley for a bargain £0.5m didn't you guess there might just be something in it for Arsenal down the line?



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