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FULL-TIME: Blackburn Rovers 0 Bournemouth 1

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ROVERS were booed off the pitch last night after they went down to a third straight league defeat for the first time this season.

Lewis Grabban’s 67th-minute goal gave Bournemouth a deserved victory – their third on the run – and condemned Gary Bowyer’s confidence-drained side to a loss that seemingly leaves their play-off hopes in tatters.

With Ipswich, Brighton and Reading all triumphing on Tuesday it was imperative that Rovers returned to winning ways after two straight defeats in order to keep in touch with the top six.

But after a bright first five minutes it quickly became apparent that was never going to happen on what was a desperately disappointing evening.

Lancashire Telegraph:

The reverse means Rovers remain nine points behind sixth-placed Reading, having played one game fewer, going into Saturday’s must-win trip to Huddersfield Town.

Rovers boss Bowyer, for what was his 50th match in charge of the club, made two changes to the team which started Sunday’s disheartening derby defeat to Burnley by dropping the out-of-form Adam Henley and the not fully fit David Dunn to the bench and replacing them with Todd Kane and Rudy Gestede.

Bournemouth, in contrast to their hosts, came into the match with a spring in their step after back-to-back victories and clean sheets.

But that did not stop their manager, former Burnley boss Eddie Howe, from altering his line-up as he opted to deploy a fifth midfielder in the form of Harry Arter meaning Grabban started up front on his own.

And the Cherries top scorer had a golden chance to put his in-form side ahead in the fifth minute after a pass down the line from Ian Harte evaded Grant Hanley.

But Grabban, clean through on goal, could only side-foot straight at Robinson before his second effort was blocked by the retreating Hanley.

Robinson was tested again in the 12th minute when he got down low to his left to push Matt Ritchie’s 25-yard daisy cutter around the post.

It was not until the 18th minute that Rovers forced Lee Camp into his first save of the game as Jordan Rhodes, in space on the edge of the area, shot straight at the underworked Bournemouth goalkeeper. The hosts were in desperate need of inspiration.

But none was forthcoming and they had to rely on the woodwork and Robinson to ensure they went in level at half-time.

After the impressive Ritchie saw another long-range strike deflect inches wide, the unmarked Steve Cook headed against the post from an inswinging Harte corner.

Harte then sent over another corner which was cleverly worked out to Simon Francis who, from 25 yards, let rip with a rising drive that Robinson tipped over the bar.

Lancashire Telegraph:

Rovers, who had blitzed Bournemouth with a sparkling first-half display in their 3-1 win at the Goldsands Stadium in September, were met by jeers at the break and although they showed sign of improvement after the restart, with Michael Keane heading a Craig Conway corner wide, it was no surprise when Bowyer brought on Dunn and Liam Feeney for Gestede and Luke Varney.

The double substitution, though, did not have the desired effect as the Cherries took in the lead through Grabban 23 minutes from time.

The striker was afforded time and space 25 yards from goal and he punished Rovers by firing low past Robinson at his near post to take his tally for the term up to 15.

And it could have got worse for moments later had Robinson not denied Cook from close range.

If Rovers, who were forced to withdrawn captain Hanley with 15 minutes to go, were going to get back into the game it was clear it would come through the tireless Conway.

The hard-working winger sent over one inviting cross which Tommy Elphick did well to clear behind for a corner and another which Rhodes headed wide.

But, despite some late pressure, Bournemouth held on comfortably to claim their first league win at Ewood Park.

Rovers: Robinson, Kane, Hanley (Williamson 75), Keane, Spurr, Varney (Feeney 62), Evans, Lowe, Conway, Gestede (Dunn 62), Rhodes. Subs not used: Eastwood, Taylor, Dabo, Henley.

Bournemouth: Camp, Francis, Cook, Elphick, Harte, Ritchie (Coulibay 82), Arter, O’Kane, Surman (MacDonald 86), Fraser (Pugh 54), Grabban. Subs not used: Allsop, Pitman, Smith, Rantie.

Booked: Ritchie.

Goal: Grabban 67.

Referee: David Webb.

Attendance: 13,081.

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10:09pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Dukes says...

I wasn't there tonight but I've lost patience with him. To judge from the comments on here and elsewhere Bowyer has run out of ideas and seems to have lost the dressing room.

VENKYS AND BOWYER OUT.
I wasn't there tonight but I've lost patience with him. To judge from the comments on here and elsewhere Bowyer has run out of ideas and seems to have lost the dressing room. VENKYS AND BOWYER OUT. Dukes
  • Score: 38

10:10pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Yeah_nice_one! says...

Dukes wrote:
I wasn't there tonight but I've lost patience with him. To judge from the comments on here and elsewhere Bowyer has run out of ideas and seems to have lost the dressing room.

VENKYS AND BOWYER OUT.
sadly happened ages ago pal
[quote][p][bold]Dukes[/bold] wrote: I wasn't there tonight but I've lost patience with him. To judge from the comments on here and elsewhere Bowyer has run out of ideas and seems to have lost the dressing room. VENKYS AND BOWYER OUT.[/p][/quote]sadly happened ages ago pal Yeah_nice_one!
  • Score: 18

10:13pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Yeah_nice_one! says...

i think most fans could see but wanted it to be different considering Bowyer is a likeable guy.true we have been unfortunate with injuries but some of GBs decisions have been quite honestly shocking at times and after watching his passionless post match drawl on sky after the burnley game my disappointment has turned to anger.
i think most fans could see but wanted it to be different considering Bowyer is a likeable guy.true we have been unfortunate with injuries but some of GBs decisions have been quite honestly shocking at times and after watching his passionless post match drawl on sky after the burnley game my disappointment has turned to anger. Yeah_nice_one!
  • Score: 47

10:16pm Wed 12 Mar 14

DanBlackburn says...

For all those still clinging to the GB nice bloke mantra please let us have your suggestions? This result is no surprise to those like me who turn up week in week out nor are the inconsistent performances. How many mediocre loan players can you squeeze into one squad?
It's just so predictable and depressing. Who is next in line? I hear the catering manager at Ewood is a nice bloke and has been there 10 years.
For all those still clinging to the GB nice bloke mantra please let us have your suggestions? This result is no surprise to those like me who turn up week in week out nor are the inconsistent performances. How many mediocre loan players can you squeeze into one squad? It's just so predictable and depressing. Who is next in line? I hear the catering manager at Ewood is a nice bloke and has been there 10 years. DanBlackburn
  • Score: 38

10:20pm Wed 12 Mar 14

bluerob says...

Bournemouth looked like a top of the table team tonight, they gave us a real footballing lesson. They moved and passed and always had an option to release the ball, unlike us who hoofed it up and hoped.

I want GB to succeed but that performance was totally unacceptable, this squad of players should be firmly in the top 6 of this division so questions have to be asked.
Bournemouth looked like a top of the table team tonight, they gave us a real footballing lesson. They moved and passed and always had an option to release the ball, unlike us who hoofed it up and hoped. I want GB to succeed but that performance was totally unacceptable, this squad of players should be firmly in the top 6 of this division so questions have to be asked. bluerob
  • Score: 45

10:21pm Wed 12 Mar 14

conbro14 says...

I tend to agree with comments about bowyer and his tactical mistakes. I think it would be better if we kept bowyer until the end of the season and see where we are then. If things aren't looking great, then it shouldn't be too hard to pick up a half decent manager, considering all of the sackings from premier league clubs this season. Sacking him at this stage would surely make things worse.
I tend to agree with comments about bowyer and his tactical mistakes. I think it would be better if we kept bowyer until the end of the season and see where we are then. If things aren't looking great, then it shouldn't be too hard to pick up a half decent manager, considering all of the sackings from premier league clubs this season. Sacking him at this stage would surely make things worse. conbro14
  • Score: 20

10:23pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Angry From Accrington says...

Yeah_nice_one! wrote:
Dukes wrote:
I wasn't there tonight but I've lost patience with him. To judge from the comments on here and elsewhere Bowyer has run out of ideas and seems to have lost the dressing room.

VENKYS AND BOWYER OUT.
sadly happened ages ago pal
Yep......all went wrong when they forced Steve Kean out. The substitutions, yet again, we're ludicrous. Gestede off, Feeney on. How do Conway and Feeney get a game ahead of Taylor? where is Josh King? Listening to Bowyer on the way home from the game I can understand why we seem to lack direction and motivation. I am too apathetic to be Angry.
[quote][p][bold]Yeah_nice_one![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dukes[/bold] wrote: I wasn't there tonight but I've lost patience with him. To judge from the comments on here and elsewhere Bowyer has run out of ideas and seems to have lost the dressing room. VENKYS AND BOWYER OUT.[/p][/quote]sadly happened ages ago pal[/p][/quote]Yep......all went wrong when they forced Steve Kean out. The substitutions, yet again, we're ludicrous. Gestede off, Feeney on. How do Conway and Feeney get a game ahead of Taylor? where is Josh King? Listening to Bowyer on the way home from the game I can understand why we seem to lack direction and motivation. I am too apathetic to be Angry. Angry From Accrington
  • Score: -10

10:23pm Wed 12 Mar 14

eddyo says...

I was there tonight and I cannot remember a worse game.
*
The lack of passing was something to behold. Truly shocking. The service to Rhodes was a hopeful punt at head level.
*
I will give Conway some credit for a few good crosses and he can use either foot, Kane was awful, Lowe was Forrest Gumpin' again, Evans let himself down, Varney should join his brother selling cars, Gestede was quiet, Hanley pulled his hamstring, Robbo should have stopped the crap shot of a goal, Feeney and Williamson came on but might as well have not. Sheesh.
I was there tonight and I cannot remember a worse game. * The lack of passing was something to behold. Truly shocking. The service to Rhodes was a hopeful punt at head level. * I will give Conway some credit for a few good crosses and he can use either foot, Kane was awful, Lowe was Forrest Gumpin' again, Evans let himself down, Varney should join his brother selling cars, Gestede was quiet, Hanley pulled his hamstring, Robbo should have stopped the crap shot of a goal, Feeney and Williamson came on but might as well have not. Sheesh. eddyo
  • Score: 38

10:23pm Wed 12 Mar 14

flagstone says...

that's definitely it. After defeat to our biggest rivals for decades , then probably the best case scenario we hear from managers all the time "we need to get this out of system and play the next game as quickly as we can , to get back on track" .Next game comes along quickly , play a team AT HOME that we SHOULD beat easily and what happens........ They bloody lose ....... What a load of ****
that's definitely it. After defeat to our biggest rivals for decades , then probably the best case scenario we hear from managers all the time "we need to get this out of system and play the next game as quickly as we can , to get back on track" .Next game comes along quickly , play a team AT HOME that we SHOULD beat easily and what happens........ They bloody lose ....... What a load of **** flagstone
  • Score: 26

10:25pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Yeah_nice_one! says...

"unlike us who hoofed it up and hoped."

aaah you've changed your tune since Burnley then
"unlike us who hoofed it up and hoped." aaah you've changed your tune since Burnley then Yeah_nice_one!
  • Score: 5

10:26pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Give_Kean_A_Chance says...

bluerob wrote:
Bournemouth looked like a top of the table team tonight, they gave us a real footballing lesson. They moved and passed and always had an option to release the ball, unlike us who hoofed it up and hoped.

I want GB to succeed but that performance was totally unacceptable, this squad of players should be firmly in the top 6 of this division so questions have to be asked.
This squad of players should be firmly in the top 6? Why? Who is there that is any good apart from Rhodes? Most of them are rejects, players other clubs didn't want and I don't mean good clubs either
[quote][p][bold]bluerob[/bold] wrote: Bournemouth looked like a top of the table team tonight, they gave us a real footballing lesson. They moved and passed and always had an option to release the ball, unlike us who hoofed it up and hoped. I want GB to succeed but that performance was totally unacceptable, this squad of players should be firmly in the top 6 of this division so questions have to be asked.[/p][/quote]This squad of players should be firmly in the top 6? Why? Who is there that is any good apart from Rhodes? Most of them are rejects, players other clubs didn't want and I don't mean good clubs either Give_Kean_A_Chance
  • Score: 27

10:30pm Wed 12 Mar 14

cboyer says...

eddyo wrote:
I was there tonight and I cannot remember a worse game.
*
The lack of passing was something to behold. Truly shocking. The service to Rhodes was a hopeful punt at head level.
*
I will give Conway some credit for a few good crosses and he can use either foot, Kane was awful, Lowe was Forrest Gumpin' again, Evans let himself down, Varney should join his brother selling cars, Gestede was quiet, Hanley pulled his hamstring, Robbo should have stopped the crap shot of a goal, Feeney and Williamson came on but might as well have not. Sheesh.
that is 1 post i couldnt agree more on
[quote][p][bold]eddyo[/bold] wrote: I was there tonight and I cannot remember a worse game. * The lack of passing was something to behold. Truly shocking. The service to Rhodes was a hopeful punt at head level. * I will give Conway some credit for a few good crosses and he can use either foot, Kane was awful, Lowe was Forrest Gumpin' again, Evans let himself down, Varney should join his brother selling cars, Gestede was quiet, Hanley pulled his hamstring, Robbo should have stopped the crap shot of a goal, Feeney and Williamson came on but might as well have not. Sheesh.[/p][/quote]that is 1 post i couldnt agree more on cboyer
  • Score: 26

10:31pm Wed 12 Mar 14

leitchy says...

Thank you GB for the stable season.....now lets go and get a manager to manage the club, with good tactics!

I.e let's not take 2 strikers off the pitch at 0-0 and replace them with 2 midfield players at home !! What was you trying to do.....see out the 0-0 and call it a good result!!
Thank you GB for the stable season.....now lets go and get a manager to manage the club, with good tactics! I.e let's not take 2 strikers off the pitch at 0-0 and replace them with 2 midfield players at home !! What was you trying to do.....see out the 0-0 and call it a good result!! leitchy
  • Score: 32

10:33pm Wed 12 Mar 14

M4CCY says...

Bowyer has done an incredible job of steadying the ship and turning things around. A run of 3 defeats and everyone is on his back!?

I can't even believe that this is a topic for discussion.

Terrible game - agreed. But criticising bowyer after everything he has done - unbelievable!
Bowyer has done an incredible job of steadying the ship and turning things around. A run of 3 defeats and everyone is on his back!? I can't even believe that this is a topic for discussion. Terrible game - agreed. But criticising bowyer after everything he has done - unbelievable! M4CCY
  • Score: -36

10:34pm Wed 12 Mar 14

anthony.horn says...

Yeah_nice_one! wrote:
i think most fans could see but wanted it to be different considering Bowyer is a likeable guy.true we have been unfortunate with injuries but some of GBs decisions have been quite honestly shocking at times and after watching his passionless post match drawl on sky after the burnley game my disappointment has turned to anger.
You had a manager who knew what he was doing, Sam Allardyce,he was clued up, and could work under the financial constraints, left after the Walker regime moved on. Yet you sacked him, amazing decision!
[quote][p][bold]Yeah_nice_one![/bold] wrote: i think most fans could see but wanted it to be different considering Bowyer is a likeable guy.true we have been unfortunate with injuries but some of GBs decisions have been quite honestly shocking at times and after watching his passionless post match drawl on sky after the burnley game my disappointment has turned to anger.[/p][/quote]You had a manager who knew what he was doing, Sam Allardyce,he was clued up, and could work under the financial constraints, left after the Walker regime moved on. Yet you sacked him, amazing decision! anthony.horn
  • Score: 25

10:37pm Wed 12 Mar 14

J.C - Rishton says...

Shocking result, season over.

The real question is "How much progress have we really made this season" ?

Given the turmoil, medling of SS and 5 different managers and over all meltdown of the club last season, have we really made the progress (stability and "progress" are not the same thing) that we should/could have?

Some fans say NO,others say YES and, some are even (optamistically) tipping Rovers (under GB) for promotion next season (haha).

Personnally,I think that GB has stabilised the club, his purchases have been very hit and miss. His tactics, probably the worst of any Rovers manager in living memory (including the moron, Kean) but he IS popular with the players (?), I think.

Is he the man to take us forwards next season ? - personally I'm not sure, I think the answer lies with the players, if they really like GB they'll give everything for the rest of the season, if they're not that bothered about saving his job then we may well see more results like tonights and our last away game.

Sad times indeed. Will our "Venkys induced" nightmare never end ?
Shocking result, season over. The real question is "How much progress have we really made this season" ? Given the turmoil, medling of SS and 5 different managers and over all meltdown of the club last season, have we really made the progress (stability and "progress" are not the same thing) that we should/could have? Some fans say NO,others say YES and, some are even (optamistically) tipping Rovers (under GB) for promotion next season (haha). Personnally,I think that GB has stabilised the club, his purchases have been very hit and miss. His tactics, probably the worst of any Rovers manager in living memory (including the moron, Kean) but he IS popular with the players (?), I think. Is he the man to take us forwards next season ? - personally I'm not sure, I think the answer lies with the players, if they really like GB they'll give everything for the rest of the season, if they're not that bothered about saving his job then we may well see more results like tonights and our last away game. Sad times indeed. Will our "Venkys induced" nightmare never end ? J.C - Rishton
  • Score: 15

10:38pm Wed 12 Mar 14

cboyer says...

anybody else think that tonight was crying out for rochina
anybody else think that tonight was crying out for rochina cboyer
  • Score: 20

10:39pm Wed 12 Mar 14

PatrickBateman2 says...

Everyone keeps saying that Gary Bowyer is learning on the job and he will get better. I see no evidence of this.
Everyone keeps saying that Gary Bowyer is learning on the job and he will get better. I see no evidence of this. PatrickBateman2
  • Score: 29

10:39pm Wed 12 Mar 14

krazzi horse says...

THEY PLAYED LIKE DONKEYS.............
..TERRIBLE..........
..........NO BODY WANTED THE BALL................
.AND WHEN THEY GOT IT THEY PASSED IT BACK................
GOD HELP US .....
THEY PLAYED LIKE DONKEYS............. ..TERRIBLE.......... ..........NO BODY WANTED THE BALL................ .AND WHEN THEY GOT IT THEY PASSED IT BACK................ GOD HELP US ..... krazzi horse
  • Score: 30

10:40pm Wed 12 Mar 14

OnePostThenTheOther says...

Does anybody really expect this collection of players and our consolation prize manager to do anything even if by some quirk we manage to get to the play-off. Some response to Sunday's defeat that was. Pathetic.
Does anybody really expect this collection of players and our consolation prize manager to do anything even if by some quirk we manage to get to the play-off. Some response to Sunday's defeat that was. Pathetic. OnePostThenTheOther
  • Score: 28

10:41pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Steven Seagull says...

flagstone wrote:
that's definitely it. After defeat to our biggest rivals for decades , then probably the best case scenario we hear from managers all the time "we need to get this out of system and play the next game as quickly as we can , to get back on track" .Next game comes along quickly , play a team AT HOME that we SHOULD beat easily and what happens........ They bloody lose ....... What a load of ****
And there lies your utter delusion and total arrogance. You SHOULD beat them easily?? Bournemouth are a good side in this division on merit and you think you should be beating them simply because you're Blackburn Rovers. Well I hope tonight has given you a nasty dose of reality, you are where you are on merit not where you think you should be on past glory.
[quote][p][bold]flagstone[/bold] wrote: that's definitely it. After defeat to our biggest rivals for decades , then probably the best case scenario we hear from managers all the time "we need to get this out of system and play the next game as quickly as we can , to get back on track" .Next game comes along quickly , play a team AT HOME that we SHOULD beat easily and what happens........ They bloody lose ....... What a load of ****[/p][/quote]And there lies your utter delusion and total arrogance. You SHOULD beat them easily?? Bournemouth are a good side in this division on merit and you think you should be beating them simply because you're Blackburn Rovers. Well I hope tonight has given you a nasty dose of reality, you are where you are on merit not where you think you should be on past glory. Steven Seagull
  • Score: 17

10:41pm Wed 12 Mar 14

izzitbecaseeamblack says...

You blackburn fans are a sad , pathetic , and a disgrace.
I hope you go down ,
You blackburn fans are a sad , pathetic , and a disgrace. I hope you go down , izzitbecaseeamblack
  • Score: -23

10:43pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Angry From Accrington says...

cboyer wrote:
anybody else think that tonight was crying out for rochina
We have been crying out for him all season
[quote][p][bold]cboyer[/bold] wrote: anybody else think that tonight was crying out for rochina[/p][/quote]We have been crying out for him all season Angry From Accrington
  • Score: 13

10:44pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Steven Seagull says...

Give_Kean_A_Chance wrote:
bluerob wrote:
Bournemouth looked like a top of the table team tonight, they gave us a real footballing lesson. They moved and passed and always had an option to release the ball, unlike us who hoofed it up and hoped.

I want GB to succeed but that performance was totally unacceptable, this squad of players should be firmly in the top 6 of this division so questions have to be asked.
This squad of players should be firmly in the top 6? Why? Who is there that is any good apart from Rhodes? Most of them are rejects, players other clubs didn't want and I don't mean good clubs either
Bluerob is just another delusional no dad who thinks the division owes them something because they are once proud Blackburn Rovers. He doesn't seem to understand that they are where they are on merit not by past reputation.

Arrogance beyond belief.
[quote][p][bold]Give_Kean_A_Chance[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bluerob[/bold] wrote: Bournemouth looked like a top of the table team tonight, they gave us a real footballing lesson. They moved and passed and always had an option to release the ball, unlike us who hoofed it up and hoped. I want GB to succeed but that performance was totally unacceptable, this squad of players should be firmly in the top 6 of this division so questions have to be asked.[/p][/quote]This squad of players should be firmly in the top 6? Why? Who is there that is any good apart from Rhodes? Most of them are rejects, players other clubs didn't want and I don't mean good clubs either[/p][/quote]Bluerob is just another delusional no dad who thinks the division owes them something because they are once proud Blackburn Rovers. He doesn't seem to understand that they are where they are on merit not by past reputation. Arrogance beyond belief. Steven Seagull
  • Score: -9

10:45pm Wed 12 Mar 14

baldie says...

Felt like what it was,an end of season game.
Felt like what it was,an end of season game. baldie
  • Score: 16

10:46pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Yeah_nice_one! says...

M4CCY wrote:
Bowyer has done an incredible job of steadying the ship and turning things around. A run of 3 defeats and everyone is on his back!?

I can't even believe that this is a topic for discussion.

Terrible game - agreed. But criticising bowyer after everything he has done - unbelievable!
but its not just a run of 3 defeats is it ??

Its all the shi*t tactical decisions , decisions which have cost us hugely this season.
there comes a point when even the most patient fan loses it, i am grateful for the work Gary has done, but he is the manager , and as the manager its his duty to galvanise the players and make the right decisions and I'm sorry but he has failed , if your happy to see dreadfull performances then do one cos i want my team to WIN!!
[quote][p][bold]M4CCY[/bold] wrote: Bowyer has done an incredible job of steadying the ship and turning things around. A run of 3 defeats and everyone is on his back!? I can't even believe that this is a topic for discussion. Terrible game - agreed. But criticising bowyer after everything he has done - unbelievable![/p][/quote]but its not just a run of 3 defeats is it ?? Its all the shi*t tactical decisions , decisions which have cost us hugely this season. there comes a point when even the most patient fan loses it, i am grateful for the work Gary has done, but he is the manager , and as the manager its his duty to galvanise the players and make the right decisions and I'm sorry but he has failed , if your happy to see dreadfull performances then do one cos i want my team to WIN!! Yeah_nice_one!
  • Score: 15

10:47pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Angry From Accrington says...

izzitbecaseeamblack wrote:
You blackburn fans are a sad , pathetic , and a disgrace.
I hope you go down ,
Noitizzbezozuizatuat
t
[quote][p][bold]izzitbecaseeamblack[/bold] wrote: You blackburn fans are a sad , pathetic , and a disgrace. I hope you go down ,[/p][/quote]Noitizzbezozuizatuat t Angry From Accrington
  • Score: 13

10:50pm Wed 12 Mar 14

MattNewcastle says...

M4CCY wrote:
Bowyer has done an incredible job of steadying the ship and turning things around. A run of 3 defeats and everyone is on his back!?

I can't even believe that this is a topic for discussion.

Terrible game - agreed. But criticising bowyer after everything he has done - unbelievable!
Your opinion is valid as is everyone's and the reason for forums such as this

I happen not to share your view on Bowyer I do not belive he has the capacity nor ability to take us forward

we have no creative midfield have lacked a defensive Right Back all season both things he has failed to correct or fix

he does not know how to set the team up and I cannot think of one single game where we have pressed and truly commanded any match

sorry now is the time for him to go to allow a new manager to have a good look at things before next season and prepare for the summer transfer windows to renew our side to take on the Championship next season
[quote][p][bold]M4CCY[/bold] wrote: Bowyer has done an incredible job of steadying the ship and turning things around. A run of 3 defeats and everyone is on his back!? I can't even believe that this is a topic for discussion. Terrible game - agreed. But criticising bowyer after everything he has done - unbelievable![/p][/quote]Your opinion is valid as is everyone's and the reason for forums such as this I happen not to share your view on Bowyer I do not belive he has the capacity nor ability to take us forward we have no creative midfield have lacked a defensive Right Back all season both things he has failed to correct or fix he does not know how to set the team up and I cannot think of one single game where we have pressed and truly commanded any match sorry now is the time for him to go to allow a new manager to have a good look at things before next season and prepare for the summer transfer windows to renew our side to take on the Championship next season MattNewcastle
  • Score: 33

10:50pm Wed 12 Mar 14

more bans than ray - brfc lxxv says...

GB can't just take all the blame. Yes he's made some bizzare decisions like playing 2 defensive central midfielders, repeatedly picking Lowe, playing Cairney wide and replacing Dunny with some loan player from Millwall (who's shocking) in a derby game but just look at our squad, it's a mid-table championship squad that's mid-table in the championship.

The playing staff has been assembled on a limited budget and no matter what anyone says or thinks about GB's tactics or formations, his agenda was to steady the ship - which he's done. The playoffs would be nice but anyone with half a football brain must know that after last seasons circus we'd be very lucky to get a playoff spot considering clubs like Leicester, Forest, QPR, Reading, Wigan and Leeds? (I'd mention the dingles but they've got lucky with Dyche who is clearly top drawer and won't be there long)

For GB to be sacked at this stage of season would be criminal but despite my backing him I doubt very much we will ever go up under his guidance.

We've been hammered off Bolton, given those Rovers infatuated rednecks all their christmases at once and been beaten at home by Bournemouth.

Problem is who'd realistically replace GB in the summer if Madame Vader and her cronies at the Death Star pull the plug.....?

#p*ssed off and fed up



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GB can't just take all the blame. Yes he's made some bizzare decisions like playing 2 defensive central midfielders, repeatedly picking Lowe, playing Cairney wide and replacing Dunny with some loan player from Millwall (who's shocking) in a derby game but just look at our squad, it's a mid-table championship squad that's mid-table in the championship. The playing staff has been assembled on a limited budget and no matter what anyone says or thinks about GB's tactics or formations, his agenda was to steady the ship - which he's done. The playoffs would be nice but anyone with half a football brain must know that after last seasons circus we'd be very lucky to get a playoff spot considering clubs like Leicester, Forest, QPR, Reading, Wigan and Leeds? (I'd mention the dingles but they've got lucky with Dyche who is clearly top drawer and won't be there long) For GB to be sacked at this stage of season would be criminal but despite my backing him I doubt very much we will ever go up under his guidance. We've been hammered off Bolton, given those Rovers infatuated rednecks all their christmases at once and been beaten at home by Bournemouth. Problem is who'd realistically replace GB in the summer if Madame Vader and her cronies at the Death Star pull the plug.....? #p*ssed off and fed up . more bans than ray - brfc lxxv
  • Score: 11

10:52pm Wed 12 Mar 14

izzitbecaseeamblack says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
izzitbecaseeamblack wrote:
You blackburn fans are a sad , pathetic , and a disgrace.
I hope you go down ,
Noitizzbezozuizatuat

t
Disgraceful .
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]izzitbecaseeamblack[/bold] wrote: You blackburn fans are a sad , pathetic , and a disgrace. I hope you go down ,[/p][/quote]Noitizzbezozuizatuat t[/p][/quote]Disgraceful . izzitbecaseeamblack
  • Score: -14

10:54pm Wed 12 Mar 14

crankitup says...

thanks Gary and Co.....i hope you spend your well earned cash well......as for the rest of us it's back to trying to earn a living tomorrow......

can i start this negative rant with a couple of quotes:

1/ “One or two people may have written us off but that’s a dangerous thing to do with this group as they’ve proved throughout this season that whenever a challenge has been put to them they have bounced back and got on with it,” said Bowyer"

2/ “We can take things out of the performance and we’ve got to look to Wednesday’s game now to put things right.” (Michael Keane)

3/ “But we’ve just got to focus now, try and put it behind us and try and win as many games between now and the end of the season – and that starts with Bournemouth on Wednesday.” (Corry Evans)

4/ But with 13 games still to play he wants Rovers, who missed the chance to close the gap on sixth-placed Reading to three points, to channel their hurt into launching one final push for the play-offs. (Gary Bowyer).....

so what the bloody hell went wrong fellas?......

Gary you need a re-think.....do you really have what it takes to be a manager?

do you know what you're doing?

can you win more than two games in a row?

do you have faith in the players you've signed?

do you know what you're talking about?

do you know how it feels to be a Rovers fan?

Even my father-in-law who is a positive fella said we were a load of crap tonight.....

Gary....where was the fight? where was the passion that would prove that sundays result was a flash in the pan?.......where are the Rovers we knew?......where do we go now?


answers on a post card please......Gary....
you're not the man for the job....thanks for installing a degree of stability but good bye
thanks Gary and Co.....i hope you spend your well earned cash well......as for the rest of us it's back to trying to earn a living tomorrow...... can i start this negative rant with a couple of quotes: 1/ “One or two people may have written us off but that’s a dangerous thing to do with this group as they’ve proved throughout this season that whenever a challenge has been put to them they have bounced back and got on with it,” said Bowyer" 2/ “We can take things out of the performance and we’ve got to look to Wednesday’s game now to put things right.” (Michael Keane) 3/ “But we’ve just got to focus now, try and put it behind us and try and win as many games between now and the end of the season – and that starts with Bournemouth on Wednesday.” (Corry Evans) 4/ But with 13 games still to play he wants Rovers, who missed the chance to close the gap on sixth-placed Reading to three points, to channel their hurt into launching one final push for the play-offs. (Gary Bowyer)..... so what the bloody hell went wrong fellas?...... Gary you need a re-think.....do you really have what it takes to be a manager? do you know what you're doing? can you win more than two games in a row? do you have faith in the players you've signed? do you know what you're talking about? do you know how it feels to be a Rovers fan? Even my father-in-law who is a positive fella said we were a load of crap tonight..... Gary....where was the fight? where was the passion that would prove that sundays result was a flash in the pan?.......where are the Rovers we knew?......where do we go now? answers on a post card please......Gary.... you're not the man for the job....thanks for installing a degree of stability but good bye crankitup
  • Score: 32

10:55pm Wed 12 Mar 14

flagstone says...

Steven Seagull wrote:
flagstone wrote:
that's definitely it. After defeat to our biggest rivals for decades , then probably the best case scenario we hear from managers all the time "we need to get this out of system and play the next game as quickly as we can , to get back on track" .Next game comes along quickly , play a team AT HOME that we SHOULD beat easily and what happens........ They bloody lose ....... What a load of ****
And there lies your utter delusion and total arrogance. You SHOULD beat them easily?? Bournemouth are a good side in this division on merit and you think you should be beating them simply because you're Blackburn Rovers. Well I hope tonight has given you a nasty dose of reality, you are where you are on merit not where you think you should be on past glory.
Let's get one thing clear dingle..... This has nothing to do with arrogance , this is do with a manager who s tactics are beyond comprehension , playing a centre forward who is crying out for the ball to his feet and have a strike partner up there with him , it's about putting on a loan player late on in a derby game who s never kicked a ball at a critical moment, it's about playing wingers in the centre midfield who obviously look like a fish out of water . . It's about watching a manager allow his team to hoof it up the pitch again and again bypassing midfield and doing sod all to get them to play it on the deck , etc etc . So do us all a favour and go and suck the gravy out of dyches beard you inbred
[quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]flagstone[/bold] wrote: that's definitely it. After defeat to our biggest rivals for decades , then probably the best case scenario we hear from managers all the time "we need to get this out of system and play the next game as quickly as we can , to get back on track" .Next game comes along quickly , play a team AT HOME that we SHOULD beat easily and what happens........ They bloody lose ....... What a load of ****[/p][/quote]And there lies your utter delusion and total arrogance. You SHOULD beat them easily?? Bournemouth are a good side in this division on merit and you think you should be beating them simply because you're Blackburn Rovers. Well I hope tonight has given you a nasty dose of reality, you are where you are on merit not where you think you should be on past glory.[/p][/quote]Let's get one thing clear dingle..... This has nothing to do with arrogance , this is do with a manager who s tactics are beyond comprehension , playing a centre forward who is crying out for the ball to his feet and have a strike partner up there with him , it's about putting on a loan player late on in a derby game who s never kicked a ball at a critical moment, it's about playing wingers in the centre midfield who obviously look like a fish out of water . . It's about watching a manager allow his team to hoof it up the pitch again and again bypassing midfield and doing sod all to get them to play it on the deck , etc etc . So do us all a favour and go and suck the gravy out of dyches beard you inbred flagstone
  • Score: 9

10:55pm Wed 12 Mar 14

izzitbecaseeamblack says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
Yeah_nice_one! wrote:
Dukes wrote:
I wasn't there tonight but I've lost patience with him. To judge from the comments on here and elsewhere Bowyer has run out of ideas and seems to have lost the dressing room.

VENKYS AND BOWYER OUT.
sadly happened ages ago pal
Yep......all went wrong when they forced Steve Kean out. The substitutions, yet again, we're ludicrous. Gestede off, Feeney on. How do Conway and Feeney get a game ahead of Taylor? where is Josh King? Listening to Bowyer on the way home from the game I can understand why we seem to lack direction and motivation. I am too apathetic to be Angry.
Just shut up and go to sleep
You're going down so stop crying
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Yeah_nice_one![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dukes[/bold] wrote: I wasn't there tonight but I've lost patience with him. To judge from the comments on here and elsewhere Bowyer has run out of ideas and seems to have lost the dressing room. VENKYS AND BOWYER OUT.[/p][/quote]sadly happened ages ago pal[/p][/quote]Yep......all went wrong when they forced Steve Kean out. The substitutions, yet again, we're ludicrous. Gestede off, Feeney on. How do Conway and Feeney get a game ahead of Taylor? where is Josh King? Listening to Bowyer on the way home from the game I can understand why we seem to lack direction and motivation. I am too apathetic to be Angry.[/p][/quote]Just shut up and go to sleep You're going down so stop crying izzitbecaseeamblack
  • Score: -7

11:01pm Wed 12 Mar 14

MattNewcastle says...

I have questioned Bowyers appointment from day one.

Great academy coach as there are many in the country and that is where he should have stayed and I truly hope goes back to but I doubt he would.

So as not to be accused of not suggesting someone I said at the time that I would have approahed Glen Hoddle so theres me putting my head on the block.
I have questioned Bowyers appointment from day one. Great academy coach as there are many in the country and that is where he should have stayed and I truly hope goes back to but I doubt he would. So as not to be accused of not suggesting someone I said at the time that I would have approahed Glen Hoddle so theres me putting my head on the block. MattNewcastle
  • Score: 2

11:01pm Wed 12 Mar 14

dangerous dave says...

M4CCY wrote:
Bowyer has done an incredible job of steadying the ship and turning things around. A run of 3 defeats and everyone is on his back!?

I can't even believe that this is a topic for discussion.

Terrible game - agreed. But criticising bowyer after everything he has done - unbelievable!
your comments are also unbelievable - steadying the ship - turning things around, you must be daft as well as blind!!!!!!!!!! GB is what he is 'a youth team coach' with no background/experienc
e in Managing a Championship Club or as some posters think from time to time a potential Premiership Club (of course the Rovers are as much a Premiership Club as GB is a Championship Manager) - he should never have been given the job by the incompetent Venkys/Shaw and we are no nearer moving forward as a club now as we were when Kean was here '
GB is totally out of his depth which is proven time after time with his incompetence in terms of tactics and his dealings in the transfer market. He has no clout in respect of bringing in the right players other than being able to sign freebies/no hopers that others are willing to let go - so if you call all this steadying the ship and moving forward you must have your head placed firmly in a bucket!!!!!!!!!!
Its a very sad situation for a club such as the Blue and Whites to find itself in but with the likes of the Venkys, Shaw, Coar and GB running the club there is no hope for the future. Yes you are right with your last word of 'unbelievable' from a very sound mid table Premiership Club to one of turmoil - but under the current regime what else can we expect 'unbelievable'
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
[quote][p][bold]M4CCY[/bold] wrote: Bowyer has done an incredible job of steadying the ship and turning things around. A run of 3 defeats and everyone is on his back!? I can't even believe that this is a topic for discussion. Terrible game - agreed. But criticising bowyer after everything he has done - unbelievable![/p][/quote]your comments are also unbelievable - steadying the ship - turning things around, you must be daft as well as blind!!!!!!!!!! GB is what he is 'a youth team coach' with no background/experienc e in Managing a Championship Club or as some posters think from time to time a potential Premiership Club (of course the Rovers are as much a Premiership Club as GB is a Championship Manager) - he should never have been given the job by the incompetent Venkys/Shaw and we are no nearer moving forward as a club now as we were when Kean was here ' GB is totally out of his depth which is proven time after time with his incompetence in terms of tactics and his dealings in the transfer market. He has no clout in respect of bringing in the right players other than being able to sign freebies/no hopers that others are willing to let go - so if you call all this steadying the ship and moving forward you must have your head placed firmly in a bucket!!!!!!!!!! Its a very sad situation for a club such as the Blue and Whites to find itself in but with the likes of the Venkys, Shaw, Coar and GB running the club there is no hope for the future. Yes you are right with your last word of 'unbelievable' from a very sound mid table Premiership Club to one of turmoil - but under the current regime what else can we expect 'unbelievable' OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS dangerous dave
  • Score: 24

11:01pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Riverside 7 says...

Bowyer’s supporters have said all season – ‘remember where we were when he took over’.

Well after tonight’s game I did.
I remembered the awful performance at home against Millwall in the FA Cup quarter final but then I realised that tonight’s performance against Bournemouth was no better.

We have a team containing 4 loan players, bereft of any creativity and full of journeymen such as Feeney, Varney, Gestede, Taylor etc, etc.

A friend of mine at half time asked me ‘why does Bowyer keep signing the same type of player?
I think he was right.
Is there any difference between Marshall, Conway, Varney, Feeney, Evans, Dabo (although like Songo’o, nobody has even seen Dabo play)?

More importantly, are they any better than the players he has sent out on loan such as Josh Morris, Rochina, and Judge etc.

Come on Derek Shaw, please, please sign a proven manager and give him time to assess the squad before next season.
Malkie Mackay is available, has a proven track record and I am certain he would be preferable to persevering with Bowyer.
I have said all along that GB may be a nice guy but he is not a winner.

After the Burnley game, out of a straw poll of 8 fellow season ticket holders, only one voted to keep Bowyer as boss next season.
After tonight’s game, even he had changed his mind.
Bowyer’s supporters have said all season – ‘remember where we were when he took over’. Well after tonight’s game I did. I remembered the awful performance at home against Millwall in the FA Cup quarter final but then I realised that tonight’s performance against Bournemouth was no better. We have a team containing 4 loan players, bereft of any creativity and full of journeymen such as Feeney, Varney, Gestede, Taylor etc, etc. A friend of mine at half time asked me ‘why does Bowyer keep signing the same type of player? I think he was right. Is there any difference between Marshall, Conway, Varney, Feeney, Evans, Dabo (although like Songo’o, nobody has even seen Dabo play)? More importantly, are they any better than the players he has sent out on loan such as Josh Morris, Rochina, and Judge etc. Come on Derek Shaw, please, please sign a proven manager and give him time to assess the squad before next season. Malkie Mackay is available, has a proven track record and I am certain he would be preferable to persevering with Bowyer. I have said all along that GB may be a nice guy but he is not a winner. After the Burnley game, out of a straw poll of 8 fellow season ticket holders, only one voted to keep Bowyer as boss next season. After tonight’s game, even he had changed his mind. Riverside 7
  • Score: 37

11:03pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Super_Clarets says...

Oh dear. Its just goes from bad to worse for the no-dads.

Complete and utter humiliation against Bolton, followed by the Clarets turning you over at Ewood Park and taking away your 34 year comfort blanket, and now this.. 3 defeats on the bounce, two of them at home. And you think you can make the play-off's?

Here's some news for you. Looking at previous years, you are not safe by a long way yet. You are now only a point above Bournemouth and two above Boro, Huddersfield and Leeds, even Bolton only need to string a couple more wins together and they'll go above you.

You could be looking at 52 to 54 points to be sure of safety this year.

The big question is, has Bowyer now lost the dressing room and well as the fans? If your abysmal run continues you could well be dragged down into that bottom group and who knows what might happen.

What a shambles.
Oh dear. Its just goes from bad to worse for the no-dads. Complete and utter humiliation against Bolton, followed by the Clarets turning you over at Ewood Park and taking away your 34 year comfort blanket, and now this.. 3 defeats on the bounce, two of them at home. And you think you can make the play-off's? Here's some news for you. Looking at previous years, you are not safe by a long way yet. You are now only a point above Bournemouth and two above Boro, Huddersfield and Leeds, even Bolton only need to string a couple more wins together and they'll go above you. You could be looking at 52 to 54 points to be sure of safety this year. The big question is, has Bowyer now lost the dressing room and well as the fans? If your abysmal run continues you could well be dragged down into that bottom group and who knows what might happen. What a shambles. Super_Clarets
  • Score: -5

11:06pm Wed 12 Mar 14

jogalot says...

Bowyer is an inexperienced manager, just like the previous ones. He is still learning. His experience in football not as manager has helped him a bit and there is a bit of stability now. But would you give him time to learn until he is good enough? He's not a Moyes with plenty of experience on a limited budget. Perhaps he would become one in 10 years time, but who would allow him this? Rovers could be non-league by then.

His skills seem to lie elsewhere, possibly as an assistant to an EXPERIENCED manager with some PROVEN SUCCESS. You gets what you pays for though. I hope Venkys will finally understand what most fans have said all along - that Rovers need an experienced manager. At the end of the season, imho.
Bowyer is an inexperienced manager, just like the previous ones. He is still learning. His experience in football not as manager has helped him a bit and there is a bit of stability now. But would you give him time to learn until he is good enough? He's not a Moyes with plenty of experience on a limited budget. Perhaps he would become one in 10 years time, but who would allow him this? Rovers could be non-league by then. His skills seem to lie elsewhere, possibly as an assistant to an EXPERIENCED manager with some PROVEN SUCCESS. You gets what you pays for though. I hope Venkys will finally understand what most fans have said all along - that Rovers need an experienced manager. At the end of the season, imho. jogalot
  • Score: 9

11:09pm Wed 12 Mar 14

MattNewcastle says...

flagstone wrote:
Steven Seagull wrote:
flagstone wrote:
that's definitely it. After defeat to our biggest rivals for decades , then probably the best case scenario we hear from managers all the time "we need to get this out of system and play the next game as quickly as we can , to get back on track" .Next game comes along quickly , play a team AT HOME that we SHOULD beat easily and what happens........ They bloody lose ....... What a load of ****
And there lies your utter delusion and total arrogance. You SHOULD beat them easily?? Bournemouth are a good side in this division on merit and you think you should be beating them simply because you're Blackburn Rovers. Well I hope tonight has given you a nasty dose of reality, you are where you are on merit not where you think you should be on past glory.
Let's get one thing clear dingle..... This has nothing to do with arrogance , this is do with a manager who s tactics are beyond comprehension , playing a centre forward who is crying out for the ball to his feet and have a strike partner up there with him , it's about putting on a loan player late on in a derby game who s never kicked a ball at a critical moment, it's about playing wingers in the centre midfield who obviously look like a fish out of water . . It's about watching a manager allow his team to hoof it up the pitch again and again bypassing midfield and doing sod all to get them to play it on the deck , etc etc . So do us all a favour and go and suck the gravy out of dyches beard you inbred
Flagstone

Agree with all your post but don't allow Burnley fans to get to you.

They are just two games a season that's it. Likely to be none for sometime as I think if they do go up they will stay up for a few seasons and with a few signings probably be better than a whole bunch of sides presently in the Premiership

it's there day so let them have it for now.

They will be back down in a few years time as only a handfulof clubs can guarantee PPremiership status these days for any great length of time

your
[quote][p][bold]flagstone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]flagstone[/bold] wrote: that's definitely it. After defeat to our biggest rivals for decades , then probably the best case scenario we hear from managers all the time "we need to get this out of system and play the next game as quickly as we can , to get back on track" .Next game comes along quickly , play a team AT HOME that we SHOULD beat easily and what happens........ They bloody lose ....... What a load of ****[/p][/quote]And there lies your utter delusion and total arrogance. You SHOULD beat them easily?? Bournemouth are a good side in this division on merit and you think you should be beating them simply because you're Blackburn Rovers. Well I hope tonight has given you a nasty dose of reality, you are where you are on merit not where you think you should be on past glory.[/p][/quote]Let's get one thing clear dingle..... This has nothing to do with arrogance , this is do with a manager who s tactics are beyond comprehension , playing a centre forward who is crying out for the ball to his feet and have a strike partner up there with him , it's about putting on a loan player late on in a derby game who s never kicked a ball at a critical moment, it's about playing wingers in the centre midfield who obviously look like a fish out of water . . It's about watching a manager allow his team to hoof it up the pitch again and again bypassing midfield and doing sod all to get them to play it on the deck , etc etc . So do us all a favour and go and suck the gravy out of dyches beard you inbred[/p][/quote]Flagstone Agree with all your post but don't allow Burnley fans to get to you. They are just two games a season that's it. Likely to be none for sometime as I think if they do go up they will stay up for a few seasons and with a few signings probably be better than a whole bunch of sides presently in the Premiership it's there day so let them have it for now. They will be back down in a few years time as only a handfulof clubs can guarantee PPremiership status these days for any great length of time your MattNewcastle
  • Score: 2

11:14pm Wed 12 Mar 14

MattNewcastle says...

jogalot wrote:
Bowyer is an inexperienced manager, just like the previous ones. He is still learning. His experience in football not as manager has helped him a bit and there is a bit of stability now. But would you give him time to learn until he is good enough? He's not a Moyes with plenty of experience on a limited budget. Perhaps he would become one in 10 years time, but who would allow him this? Rovers could be non-league by then.

His skills seem to lie elsewhere, possibly as an assistant to an EXPERIENCED manager with some PROVEN SUCCESS. You gets what you pays for though. I hope Venkys will finally understand what most fans have said all along - that Rovers need an experienced manager. At the end of the season, imho.
Hi

I would say it would be best doing it now

New manager would have some games to assess things and not have to leave it to a meagre few games pre season

Also if we keep Bowyer he will end up signing Carney and Co who are just not good enough

Bowyer should have seen his weaknesses and a pointed a number two with experience and tactical acumen

Robson did it with Venables
[quote][p][bold]jogalot[/bold] wrote: Bowyer is an inexperienced manager, just like the previous ones. He is still learning. His experience in football not as manager has helped him a bit and there is a bit of stability now. But would you give him time to learn until he is good enough? He's not a Moyes with plenty of experience on a limited budget. Perhaps he would become one in 10 years time, but who would allow him this? Rovers could be non-league by then. His skills seem to lie elsewhere, possibly as an assistant to an EXPERIENCED manager with some PROVEN SUCCESS. You gets what you pays for though. I hope Venkys will finally understand what most fans have said all along - that Rovers need an experienced manager. At the end of the season, imho.[/p][/quote]Hi I would say it would be best doing it now New manager would have some games to assess things and not have to leave it to a meagre few games pre season Also if we keep Bowyer he will end up signing Carney and Co who are just not good enough Bowyer should have seen his weaknesses and a pointed a number two with experience and tactical acumen Robson did it with Venables MattNewcastle
  • Score: 4

11:16pm Wed 12 Mar 14

MattNewcastle says...

MattNewcastle wrote:
jogalot wrote:
Bowyer is an inexperienced manager, just like the previous ones. He is still learning. His experience in football not as manager has helped him a bit and there is a bit of stability now. But would you give him time to learn until he is good enough? He's not a Moyes with plenty of experience on a limited budget. Perhaps he would become one in 10 years time, but who would allow him this? Rovers could be non-league by then.

His skills seem to lie elsewhere, possibly as an assistant to an EXPERIENCED manager with some PROVEN SUCCESS. You gets what you pays for though. I hope Venkys will finally understand what most fans have said all along - that Rovers need an experienced manager. At the end of the season, imho.
Hi

I would say it would be best doing it now

New manager would have some games to assess things and not have to leave it to a meagre few games pre season

Also if we keep Bowyer he will end up signing Carney and Co who are just not good enough

Bowyer should have seen his weaknesses and a pointed a number two with experience and tactical acumen

Robson did it with Venables
Should be Varney
[quote][p][bold]MattNewcastle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jogalot[/bold] wrote: Bowyer is an inexperienced manager, just like the previous ones. He is still learning. His experience in football not as manager has helped him a bit and there is a bit of stability now. But would you give him time to learn until he is good enough? He's not a Moyes with plenty of experience on a limited budget. Perhaps he would become one in 10 years time, but who would allow him this? Rovers could be non-league by then. His skills seem to lie elsewhere, possibly as an assistant to an EXPERIENCED manager with some PROVEN SUCCESS. You gets what you pays for though. I hope Venkys will finally understand what most fans have said all along - that Rovers need an experienced manager. At the end of the season, imho.[/p][/quote]Hi I would say it would be best doing it now New manager would have some games to assess things and not have to leave it to a meagre few games pre season Also if we keep Bowyer he will end up signing Carney and Co who are just not good enough Bowyer should have seen his weaknesses and a pointed a number two with experience and tactical acumen Robson did it with Venables[/p][/quote]Should be Varney MattNewcastle
  • Score: 5

11:19pm Wed 12 Mar 14

roversammo says...

M4CCY wrote:
Bowyer has done an incredible job of steadying the ship and turning things around. A run of 3 defeats and everyone is on his back!?

I can't even believe that this is a topic for discussion.

Terrible game - agreed. But criticising bowyer after everything he has done - unbelievable!
Everything he has done? Yes he steadied the ship for a short while. Since then he has brought in embarrassingly average players, played our most creative player when fit out wide with no influence, and made sub's more baffling than a rubix cube! The man is tactically inept, simple as that. HE HAS NO PLAN B! Everyone I'm sure, including me, likes him and thanks him, but you don't get anywhere being nice. 8 points out of 27. Disgraceful.
[quote][p][bold]M4CCY[/bold] wrote: Bowyer has done an incredible job of steadying the ship and turning things around. A run of 3 defeats and everyone is on his back!? I can't even believe that this is a topic for discussion. Terrible game - agreed. But criticising bowyer after everything he has done - unbelievable![/p][/quote]Everything he has done? Yes he steadied the ship for a short while. Since then he has brought in embarrassingly average players, played our most creative player when fit out wide with no influence, and made sub's more baffling than a rubix cube! The man is tactically inept, simple as that. HE HAS NO PLAN B! Everyone I'm sure, including me, likes him and thanks him, but you don't get anywhere being nice. 8 points out of 27. Disgraceful. roversammo
  • Score: 18

11:21pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Boris The Spider says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
izzitbecaseeamblack wrote:
You blackburn fans are a sad , pathetic , and a disgrace.
I hope you go down ,
Noitizzbezozuizatuat

t
Funny! :)
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]izzitbecaseeamblack[/bold] wrote: You blackburn fans are a sad , pathetic , and a disgrace. I hope you go down ,[/p][/quote]Noitizzbezozuizatuat t[/p][/quote]Funny! :) Boris The Spider
  • Score: 9

11:22pm Wed 12 Mar 14

jogalot says...

MattNewcastle wrote:
MattNewcastle wrote:
jogalot wrote:
Bowyer is an inexperienced manager, just like the previous ones. He is still learning. His experience in football not as manager has helped him a bit and there is a bit of stability now. But would you give him time to learn until he is good enough? He's not a Moyes with plenty of experience on a limited budget. Perhaps he would become one in 10 years time, but who would allow him this? Rovers could be non-league by then.

His skills seem to lie elsewhere, possibly as an assistant to an EXPERIENCED manager with some PROVEN SUCCESS. You gets what you pays for though. I hope Venkys will finally understand what most fans have said all along - that Rovers need an experienced manager. At the end of the season, imho.
Hi

I would say it would be best doing it now

New manager would have some games to assess things and not have to leave it to a meagre few games pre season

Also if we keep Bowyer he will end up signing Carney and Co who are just not good enough

Bowyer should have seen his weaknesses and a pointed a number two with experience and tactical acumen

Robson did it with Venables
Should be Varney
On reflection, you're probably right.
[quote][p][bold]MattNewcastle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MattNewcastle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jogalot[/bold] wrote: Bowyer is an inexperienced manager, just like the previous ones. He is still learning. His experience in football not as manager has helped him a bit and there is a bit of stability now. But would you give him time to learn until he is good enough? He's not a Moyes with plenty of experience on a limited budget. Perhaps he would become one in 10 years time, but who would allow him this? Rovers could be non-league by then. His skills seem to lie elsewhere, possibly as an assistant to an EXPERIENCED manager with some PROVEN SUCCESS. You gets what you pays for though. I hope Venkys will finally understand what most fans have said all along - that Rovers need an experienced manager. At the end of the season, imho.[/p][/quote]Hi I would say it would be best doing it now New manager would have some games to assess things and not have to leave it to a meagre few games pre season Also if we keep Bowyer he will end up signing Carney and Co who are just not good enough Bowyer should have seen his weaknesses and a pointed a number two with experience and tactical acumen Robson did it with Venables[/p][/quote]Should be Varney[/p][/quote]On reflection, you're probably right. jogalot
  • Score: 4

11:23pm Wed 12 Mar 14

dallydally says...

Terrible, terrible, terrible. An abysmal performance all over the pitch. GB you need to take a long, hard look at yourself
Terrible, terrible, terrible. An abysmal performance all over the pitch. GB you need to take a long, hard look at yourself dallydally
  • Score: 16

11:30pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Stretchie says...

Mid table in a season of transition I can cope with.. Paying good money to watch a Rovers side enter the arena, apparently ready to take on the world after Sunday (didn't realise how defensively chronic that second goal was, until I watched the highlights on Monday night), and then turning in a performance that at best was Sunday League, against a team who at times resembled the Keystone Cops, is not..
Mid table in a season of transition I can cope with.. Paying good money to watch a Rovers side enter the arena, apparently ready to take on the world after Sunday (didn't realise how defensively chronic that second goal was, until I watched the highlights on Monday night), and then turning in a performance that at best was Sunday League, against a team who at times resembled the Keystone Cops, is not.. Stretchie
  • Score: 9

11:40pm Wed 12 Mar 14

keanoutofrovers says...

Super_Clarets wrote:
Oh dear. Its just goes from bad to worse for the no-dads.

Complete and utter humiliation against Bolton, followed by the Clarets turning you over at Ewood Park and taking away your 34 year comfort blanket, and now this.. 3 defeats on the bounce, two of them at home. And you think you can make the play-off's?

Here's some news for you. Looking at previous years, you are not safe by a long way yet. You are now only a point above Bournemouth and two above Boro, Huddersfield and Leeds, even Bolton only need to string a couple more wins together and they'll go above you.

You could be looking at 52 to 54 points to be sure of safety this year.

The big question is, has Bowyer now lost the dressing room and well as the fans? If your abysmal run continues you could well be dragged down into that bottom group and who knows what might happen.

What a shambles.
Another match you obviously failed to attend so you could stay at home and read the Rovers thread!
[quote][p][bold]Super_Clarets[/bold] wrote: Oh dear. Its just goes from bad to worse for the no-dads. Complete and utter humiliation against Bolton, followed by the Clarets turning you over at Ewood Park and taking away your 34 year comfort blanket, and now this.. 3 defeats on the bounce, two of them at home. And you think you can make the play-off's? Here's some news for you. Looking at previous years, you are not safe by a long way yet. You are now only a point above Bournemouth and two above Boro, Huddersfield and Leeds, even Bolton only need to string a couple more wins together and they'll go above you. You could be looking at 52 to 54 points to be sure of safety this year. The big question is, has Bowyer now lost the dressing room and well as the fans? If your abysmal run continues you could well be dragged down into that bottom group and who knows what might happen. What a shambles.[/p][/quote]Another match you obviously failed to attend so you could stay at home and read the Rovers thread! keanoutofrovers
  • Score: 2

11:42pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Yeah_nice_one! says...

latest Steve, sorry i mean Gary Bowyer quote

"It's important now that we regroup, we stay calm and we stick together. We've worked hard to get stability into this club. These last three games - we've got to make sure we stop that, obviously - but there's no need to panic or anything daft like that."

oh Gary you've lost it completely. if you came out and said
'we simply weren't good enough and i apologise to the hard working fans who pay good money to come and support the team " and took responsibility for your part in all this i would understand your limitations but still respect you but now your seriously taking the f*ckin p*ss
latest Steve, sorry i mean Gary Bowyer quote "It's important now that we regroup, we stay calm and we stick together. We've worked hard to get stability into this club. These last three games - we've got to make sure we stop that, obviously - but there's no need to panic or anything daft like that." oh Gary you've lost it completely. if you came out and said 'we simply weren't good enough and i apologise to the hard working fans who pay good money to come and support the team " and took responsibility for your part in all this i would understand your limitations but still respect you but now your seriously taking the f*ckin p*ss Yeah_nice_one!
  • Score: 8

11:49pm Wed 12 Mar 14

MattNewcastle says...

Who would you wish to be around first weekend at the beginning of our 2014 2015 campaign to attempt to let's not be too ambitious but to get in the top six

This then puts Bowers credentials into light.

Defiinites
Spurr
Hanley
Cairney
Lowe (Right Back only)
Conway
Evans

Possibles
Marshall

That's it for me hence the need for a tactically astute manager to sort the future direction of our club out

Shock omissions
Robinson has been ok however to slow now to get down to low shots tonight and Bolton 2 recent examples
Rhodes just to lightweight slow and cannot hold the ball up / link up with midfield
Gestede works hard but lacks skill nothing sticks when played up to him either.

The rest quite frankly are an embarrassment to be part of a squad supposedly aiming for top 6. They unfortunately are just not good enough or skilful enough. Taylor as an example seems a great lad but simply just not good eenough
Who would you wish to be around first weekend at the beginning of our 2014 2015 campaign to attempt to let's not be too ambitious but to get in the top six This then puts Bowers credentials into light. Defiinites Spurr Hanley Cairney Lowe (Right Back only) Conway Evans Possibles Marshall That's it for me hence the need for a tactically astute manager to sort the future direction of our club out Shock omissions Robinson has been ok however to slow now to get down to low shots tonight and Bolton 2 recent examples Rhodes just to lightweight slow and cannot hold the ball up / link up with midfield Gestede works hard but lacks skill nothing sticks when played up to him either. The rest quite frankly are an embarrassment to be part of a squad supposedly aiming for top 6. They unfortunately are just not good enough or skilful enough. Taylor as an example seems a great lad but simply just not good eenough MattNewcastle
  • Score: 15

11:50pm Wed 12 Mar 14

taurus1530 says...

One very disillusioned season ticket holder, I have a 12 hour round trip to see my favourite team play. I won't be bothering again as the players seem to have lost their appetite for the game. I live in Norfolk went to Ewood on Sunday was impressed by the players then, but tun to basically give up against Bournemouth that is unacceptable. I will not renew my season ticket. We need an experienced manager to have any hope of ever getting back into the Premier League.

So very sad have been supporting Rovers since I was 8 and am now 67.
One very disillusioned season ticket holder, I have a 12 hour round trip to see my favourite team play. I won't be bothering again as the players seem to have lost their appetite for the game. I live in Norfolk went to Ewood on Sunday was impressed by the players then, but tun to basically give up against Bournemouth that is unacceptable. I will not renew my season ticket. We need an experienced manager to have any hope of ever getting back into the Premier League. So very sad have been supporting Rovers since I was 8 and am now 67. taurus1530
  • Score: 22

11:50pm Wed 12 Mar 14

MxMave says...

cboyer wrote:
anybody else think that tonight was crying out for rochina
Bang on. Creativity has been totally purged from the squad. We now have a stable bunch of side passing defensive minded players.
[quote][p][bold]cboyer[/bold] wrote: anybody else think that tonight was crying out for rochina[/p][/quote]Bang on. Creativity has been totally purged from the squad. We now have a stable bunch of side passing defensive minded players. MxMave
  • Score: 7

12:01am Thu 13 Mar 14

A Rover 45 years and over says...

Given a football lesson by Bournemouth tonight, we looked nervous short of ideas and lacked creativity. Robinson made 5 or 6 fantastic saves otherwise they could have had a bag full of goals. On this showing I can't see where the next win will come from. Was not happy when he took Gestede off again, his all round contribution was much more than Rhodes. Varny and Feeney should not replace Taylor and the other players we have already. GB should not be allowed to go into the loan market again this season because play offs are well and truly over even with 12 games to go ,and will be a complete waste of money if he requests to get other players in, Time to blood some our youngsters for the remainding games GB will now be under a lot of pressure now.
Given a football lesson by Bournemouth tonight, we looked nervous short of ideas and lacked creativity. Robinson made 5 or 6 fantastic saves otherwise they could have had a bag full of goals. On this showing I can't see where the next win will come from. Was not happy when he took Gestede off again, his all round contribution was much more than Rhodes. Varny and Feeney should not replace Taylor and the other players we have already. GB should not be allowed to go into the loan market again this season because play offs are well and truly over even with 12 games to go ,and will be a complete waste of money if he requests to get other players in, Time to blood some our youngsters for the remainding games GB will now be under a lot of pressure now. A Rover 45 years and over
  • Score: 14

12:03am Thu 13 Mar 14

jogalot says...

MattNewcastle wrote:
Who would you wish to be around first weekend at the beginning of our 2014 2015 campaign to attempt to let's not be too ambitious but to get in the top six

This then puts Bowers credentials into light.

Defiinites
Spurr
Hanley
Cairney
Lowe (Right Back only)
Conway
Evans

Possibles
Marshall

That's it for me hence the need for a tactically astute manager to sort the future direction of our club out

Shock omissions
Robinson has been ok however to slow now to get down to low shots tonight and Bolton 2 recent examples
Rhodes just to lightweight slow and cannot hold the ball up / link up with midfield
Gestede works hard but lacks skill nothing sticks when played up to him either.

The rest quite frankly are an embarrassment to be part of a squad supposedly aiming for top 6. They unfortunately are just not good enough or skilful enough. Taylor as an example seems a great lad but simply just not good eenough
I'd include Rhodes and Gestede who will get back to normal when they get regular good service. But it's a lot to do with confidence and I doubt whether Bowyer will ever instill that in them. An experienced manager with some proven success and a natural ability to coach and manage (which Bowyer hasn't got) is what we need. I think we are stuck with Venkys but perhaps they will eventually see the light regarding the manager.
[quote][p][bold]MattNewcastle[/bold] wrote: Who would you wish to be around first weekend at the beginning of our 2014 2015 campaign to attempt to let's not be too ambitious but to get in the top six This then puts Bowers credentials into light. Defiinites Spurr Hanley Cairney Lowe (Right Back only) Conway Evans Possibles Marshall That's it for me hence the need for a tactically astute manager to sort the future direction of our club out Shock omissions Robinson has been ok however to slow now to get down to low shots tonight and Bolton 2 recent examples Rhodes just to lightweight slow and cannot hold the ball up / link up with midfield Gestede works hard but lacks skill nothing sticks when played up to him either. The rest quite frankly are an embarrassment to be part of a squad supposedly aiming for top 6. They unfortunately are just not good enough or skilful enough. Taylor as an example seems a great lad but simply just not good eenough[/p][/quote]I'd include Rhodes and Gestede who will get back to normal when they get regular good service. But it's a lot to do with confidence and I doubt whether Bowyer will ever instill that in them. An experienced manager with some proven success and a natural ability to coach and manage (which Bowyer hasn't got) is what we need. I think we are stuck with Venkys but perhaps they will eventually see the light regarding the manager. jogalot
  • Score: 4

12:16am Thu 13 Mar 14

Super_Clarets says...

keanoutofrovers wrote:
Super_Clarets wrote:
Oh dear. Its just goes from bad to worse for the no-dads.

Complete and utter humiliation against Bolton, followed by the Clarets turning you over at Ewood Park and taking away your 34 year comfort blanket, and now this.. 3 defeats on the bounce, two of them at home. And you think you can make the play-off's?

Here's some news for you. Looking at previous years, you are not safe by a long way yet. You are now only a point above Bournemouth and two above Boro, Huddersfield and Leeds, even Bolton only need to string a couple more wins together and they'll go above you.

You could be looking at 52 to 54 points to be sure of safety this year.

The big question is, has Bowyer now lost the dressing room and well as the fans? If your abysmal run continues you could well be dragged down into that bottom group and who knows what might happen.

What a shambles.
Another match you obviously failed to attend so you could stay at home and read the Rovers thread!
They call it a mobile network in developed parts of the world. Internet on your mobile phone, amazing concept isn't it. Perhaps in a few years time it might catch on in Shadsworth.
[quote][p][bold]keanoutofrovers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Super_Clarets[/bold] wrote: Oh dear. Its just goes from bad to worse for the no-dads. Complete and utter humiliation against Bolton, followed by the Clarets turning you over at Ewood Park and taking away your 34 year comfort blanket, and now this.. 3 defeats on the bounce, two of them at home. And you think you can make the play-off's? Here's some news for you. Looking at previous years, you are not safe by a long way yet. You are now only a point above Bournemouth and two above Boro, Huddersfield and Leeds, even Bolton only need to string a couple more wins together and they'll go above you. You could be looking at 52 to 54 points to be sure of safety this year. The big question is, has Bowyer now lost the dressing room and well as the fans? If your abysmal run continues you could well be dragged down into that bottom group and who knows what might happen. What a shambles.[/p][/quote]Another match you obviously failed to attend so you could stay at home and read the Rovers thread![/p][/quote]They call it a mobile network in developed parts of the world. Internet on your mobile phone, amazing concept isn't it. Perhaps in a few years time it might catch on in Shadsworth. Super_Clarets
  • Score: -3

12:27am Thu 13 Mar 14

rover95 says...

Super_Clarets wrote:
Oh dear. Its just goes from bad to worse for the no-dads.

Complete and utter humiliation against Bolton, followed by the Clarets turning you over at Ewood Park and taking away your 34 year comfort blanket, and now this.. 3 defeats on the bounce, two of them at home. And you think you can make the play-off's?

Here's some news for you. Looking at previous years, you are not safe by a long way yet. You are now only a point above Bournemouth and two above Boro, Huddersfield and Leeds, even Bolton only need to string a couple more wins together and they'll go above you.

You could be looking at 52 to 54 points to be sure of safety this year.

The big question is, has Bowyer now lost the dressing room and well as the fans? If your abysmal run continues you could well be dragged down into that bottom group and who knows what might happen.

What a shambles.
And what's it got to do with you dingle. You finally beat us after all these years but yet you are still on here day and night. Is it because no one is on the burnley pages so you have to make us read your tripe. Now go away and go back to your mum.
[quote][p][bold]Super_Clarets[/bold] wrote: Oh dear. Its just goes from bad to worse for the no-dads. Complete and utter humiliation against Bolton, followed by the Clarets turning you over at Ewood Park and taking away your 34 year comfort blanket, and now this.. 3 defeats on the bounce, two of them at home. And you think you can make the play-off's? Here's some news for you. Looking at previous years, you are not safe by a long way yet. You are now only a point above Bournemouth and two above Boro, Huddersfield and Leeds, even Bolton only need to string a couple more wins together and they'll go above you. You could be looking at 52 to 54 points to be sure of safety this year. The big question is, has Bowyer now lost the dressing room and well as the fans? If your abysmal run continues you could well be dragged down into that bottom group and who knows what might happen. What a shambles.[/p][/quote]And what's it got to do with you dingle. You finally beat us after all these years but yet you are still on here day and night. Is it because no one is on the burnley pages so you have to make us read your tripe. Now go away and go back to your mum. rover95
  • Score: 2

12:36am Thu 13 Mar 14

bluerob says...

Steven Seagull wrote:
Give_Kean_A_Chance wrote:
bluerob wrote:
Bournemouth looked like a top of the table team tonight, they gave us a real footballing lesson. They moved and passed and always had an option to release the ball, unlike us who hoofed it up and hoped.

I want GB to succeed but that performance was totally unacceptable, this squad of players should be firmly in the top 6 of this division so questions have to be asked.
This squad of players should be firmly in the top 6? Why? Who is there that is any good apart from Rhodes? Most of them are rejects, players other clubs didn't want and I don't mean good clubs either
Bluerob is just another delusional no dad who thinks the division owes them something because they are once proud Blackburn Rovers. He doesn't seem to understand that they are where they are on merit not by past reputation.

Arrogance beyond belief.
Listen dingle boy, when it comes to being deluded you lot are the masters.

I don't expect anything by reputation, but im very sure I know the Rovers players better than you do and quite frankly I don't give a t..s what you think about them .

Now run along and start worrying about your new rivals in the Premier league and leave us to get our own house in order.
[quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Give_Kean_A_Chance[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bluerob[/bold] wrote: Bournemouth looked like a top of the table team tonight, they gave us a real footballing lesson. They moved and passed and always had an option to release the ball, unlike us who hoofed it up and hoped. I want GB to succeed but that performance was totally unacceptable, this squad of players should be firmly in the top 6 of this division so questions have to be asked.[/p][/quote]This squad of players should be firmly in the top 6? Why? Who is there that is any good apart from Rhodes? Most of them are rejects, players other clubs didn't want and I don't mean good clubs either[/p][/quote]Bluerob is just another delusional no dad who thinks the division owes them something because they are once proud Blackburn Rovers. He doesn't seem to understand that they are where they are on merit not by past reputation. Arrogance beyond belief.[/p][/quote]Listen dingle boy, when it comes to being deluded you lot are the masters. I don't expect anything by reputation, but im very sure I know the Rovers players better than you do and quite frankly I don't give a t..s what you think about them . Now run along and start worrying about your new rivals in the Premier league and leave us to get our own house in order. bluerob
  • Score: -2

12:37am Thu 13 Mar 14

northernchef says...

Understandably you guys aren't happy with recent results but as I have said before you still have a chance. Nine points isn't impossible but under GB it will be difficult. He has done a satisfactory job at Rovers but definitely isn't the man to take you forward. Good luck next year to a fellow Lancashire club and just think you could have Blackpools' form.
Understandably you guys aren't happy with recent results but as I have said before you still have a chance. Nine points isn't impossible but under GB it will be difficult. He has done a satisfactory job at Rovers but definitely isn't the man to take you forward. Good luck next year to a fellow Lancashire club and just think you could have Blackpools' form. northernchef
  • Score: 5

12:38am Thu 13 Mar 14

bluerob says...

Yeah_nice_one! wrote:
"unlike us who hoofed it up and hoped."

aaah you've changed your tune since Burnley then
No... We did tonight what you did on Sunday, but you at least played it into the chanels
[quote][p][bold]Yeah_nice_one![/bold] wrote: "unlike us who hoofed it up and hoped." aaah you've changed your tune since Burnley then[/p][/quote]No... We did tonight what you did on Sunday, but you at least played it into the chanels bluerob
  • Score: 0

12:41am Thu 13 Mar 14

bluerob says...

bluerob wrote:
Yeah_nice_one! wrote:
"unlike us who hoofed it up and hoped."

aaah you've changed your tune since Burnley then
No... We did tonight what you did on Sunday, but you at least played it into the chanels
That should read at least you played it into the chanels
[quote][p][bold]bluerob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Yeah_nice_one![/bold] wrote: "unlike us who hoofed it up and hoped." aaah you've changed your tune since Burnley then[/p][/quote]No... We did tonight what you did on Sunday, but you at least played it into the chanels[/p][/quote]That should read at least you played it into the chanels bluerob
  • Score: 1

12:41am Thu 13 Mar 14

Road Runner Road Runner says...

Abysmal crap from the top to the bottom.

Fuxk Venkys, Shaw and every other bellend purporting to have the best interest of BRFC at heart.

Confidence is shattered and Mr.Bowyer and Co have run their course, but the Loons from Pune will continue this farce.

Fluk off.

Distasteful to say the least.

Arte et labore ?
Abysmal crap from the top to the bottom. Fuxk Venkys, Shaw and every other bellend purporting to have the best interest of BRFC at heart. Confidence is shattered and Mr.Bowyer and Co have run their course, but the Loons from Pune will continue this farce. Fluk off. Distasteful to say the least. Arte et labore ? Road Runner Road Runner
  • Score: 12

12:47am Thu 13 Mar 14

noddy57 says...

l have deliberately overlooked the posts because l want to state my case without any other distraction,first of all this result tonight at home to Bournemouth is unacceptable,l said recently that we had to win every home game and pick up a point away from home to mix it with the big hitters,,well l,m afraid its goodnight Vienna in more ways than one,we are on the slide and l blame the players for not being up for the fight and l also blame Gary Bowyer for not demanding effort and its that simple ,Gary Aquired these players and they are simply not good enough,we have to put in place a proven manager for next season and back him with big money if the Venky,s want success, if not then the game really is up for everyone concerned with Blackburn Rovers,
l have deliberately overlooked the posts because l want to state my case without any other distraction,first of all this result tonight at home to Bournemouth is unacceptable,l said recently that we had to win every home game and pick up a point away from home to mix it with the big hitters,,well l,m afraid its goodnight Vienna in more ways than one,we are on the slide and l blame the players for not being up for the fight and l also blame Gary Bowyer for not demanding effort and its that simple ,Gary Aquired these players and they are simply not good enough,we have to put in place a proven manager for next season and back him with big money if the Venky,s want success, if not then the game really is up for everyone concerned with Blackburn Rovers, noddy57
  • Score: 17

12:48am Thu 13 Mar 14

Road Runner Road Runner says...

And for all you facking idiot Dingles - the baton is now yours !

I hate you with a vengeance but respect the present.

So it goes.

Arte et labore
And for all you facking idiot Dingles - the baton is now yours ! I hate you with a vengeance but respect the present. So it goes. Arte et labore Road Runner Road Runner
  • Score: 3

2:10am Thu 13 Mar 14

carltondry says...

Road Runner Road Runner wrote:
And for all you facking idiot Dingles - the baton is now yours ! I hate you with a vengeance but respect the present. So it goes. Arte et labore
Couldn't agree more.
[quote][p][bold]Road Runner Road Runner[/bold] wrote: And for all you facking idiot Dingles - the baton is now yours ! I hate you with a vengeance but respect the present. So it goes. Arte et labore[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more. carltondry
  • Score: 1

2:17am Thu 13 Mar 14

jim 2012 says...

Super_Clarets wrote:
Oh dear. Its just goes from bad to worse for the no-dads.

Complete and utter humiliation against Bolton, followed by the Clarets turning you over at Ewood Park and taking away your 34 year comfort blanket, and now this.. 3 defeats on the bounce, two of them at home. And you think you can make the play-off's?

Here's some news for you. Looking at previous years, you are not safe by a long way yet. You are now only a point above Bournemouth and two above Boro, Huddersfield and Leeds, even Bolton only need to string a couple more wins together and they'll go above you.

You could be looking at 52 to 54 points to be sure of safety this year.

The big question is, has Bowyer now lost the dressing room and well as the fans? If your abysmal run continues you could well be dragged down into that bottom group and who knows what might happen.

What a shambles.
I think it just got worse for burnley
[quote][p][bold]Super_Clarets[/bold] wrote: Oh dear. Its just goes from bad to worse for the no-dads. Complete and utter humiliation against Bolton, followed by the Clarets turning you over at Ewood Park and taking away your 34 year comfort blanket, and now this.. 3 defeats on the bounce, two of them at home. And you think you can make the play-off's? Here's some news for you. Looking at previous years, you are not safe by a long way yet. You are now only a point above Bournemouth and two above Boro, Huddersfield and Leeds, even Bolton only need to string a couple more wins together and they'll go above you. You could be looking at 52 to 54 points to be sure of safety this year. The big question is, has Bowyer now lost the dressing room and well as the fans? If your abysmal run continues you could well be dragged down into that bottom group and who knows what might happen. What a shambles.[/p][/quote]I think it just got worse for burnley jim 2012
  • Score: 1

2:22am Thu 13 Mar 14

carltondry says...

noddy57 wrote:
l have deliberately overlooked the posts because l want to state my case without any other distraction,first of all this result tonight at home to Bournemouth is unacceptable,l said recently that we had to win every home game and pick up a point away from home to mix it with the big hitters,,well l,m afraid its goodnight Vienna in more ways than one,we are on the slide and l blame the players for not being up for the fight and l also blame Gary Bowyer for not demanding effort and its that simple ,Gary Aquired these players and they are simply not good enough,we have to put in place a proven manager for next season and back him with big money if the Venky,s want success, if not then the game really is up for everyone concerned with Blackburn Rovers,
Spot on Noddy, if the brief to GB was to create a mid table championship club then that's exactly what he's achieved . If you add in a bit of luck and no injuries there's an outside chance of the play off's. Promotion, they've not invented those drugs yet !
It never ceases to amaze me how owners appoint managers with no experience ( Rovers are not alone here ) and expect them to be successful, utter madness and how many times has it actually worked consistently barring a freak one off lucky season.
I remember the quote uttered at the start of this fiasco
"Champions League in 4 years " knew back then if you hear such a stupid comment then its only going to go the other way and alas here we are now.
[quote][p][bold]noddy57[/bold] wrote: l have deliberately overlooked the posts because l want to state my case without any other distraction,first of all this result tonight at home to Bournemouth is unacceptable,l said recently that we had to win every home game and pick up a point away from home to mix it with the big hitters,,well l,m afraid its goodnight Vienna in more ways than one,we are on the slide and l blame the players for not being up for the fight and l also blame Gary Bowyer for not demanding effort and its that simple ,Gary Aquired these players and they are simply not good enough,we have to put in place a proven manager for next season and back him with big money if the Venky,s want success, if not then the game really is up for everyone concerned with Blackburn Rovers,[/p][/quote]Spot on Noddy, if the brief to GB was to create a mid table championship club then that's exactly what he's achieved . If you add in a bit of luck and no injuries there's an outside chance of the play off's. Promotion, they've not invented those drugs yet ! It never ceases to amaze me how owners appoint managers with no experience ( Rovers are not alone here ) and expect them to be successful, utter madness and how many times has it actually worked consistently barring a freak one off lucky season. I remember the quote uttered at the start of this fiasco "Champions League in 4 years " knew back then if you hear such a stupid comment then its only going to go the other way and alas here we are now. carltondry
  • Score: 6

6:38am Thu 13 Mar 14

J.C - Rishton says...

MattNewcastle wrote:
Who would you wish to be around first weekend at the beginning of our 2014 2015 campaign to attempt to let's not be too ambitious but to get in the top six

This then puts Bowers credentials into light.

Defiinites
Spurr
Hanley
Cairney
Lowe (Right Back only)
Conway
Evans

Possibles
Marshall

That's it for me hence the need for a tactically astute manager to sort the future direction of our club out

Shock omissions
Robinson has been ok however to slow now to get down to low shots tonight and Bolton 2 recent examples
Rhodes just to lightweight slow and cannot hold the ball up / link up with midfield
Gestede works hard but lacks skill nothing sticks when played up to him either.

The rest quite frankly are an embarrassment to be part of a squad supposedly aiming for top 6. They unfortunately are just not good enough or skilful enough. Taylor as an example seems a great lad but simply just not good eenough
Don't agree with the Rhodes omission - he aint perfect but he scores goals and that is so important for any club in any division - his loss would be massive, especially when they replace him with a dud.

It aint Rhodes fault that GB is tactically negative. Just think how many goals Rhodes would score under an attack minded manager - a hell of a lot more.

That said, I do agree with the rest of your squad assessment although I would keep King & Killgallon as well.
[quote][p][bold]MattNewcastle[/bold] wrote: Who would you wish to be around first weekend at the beginning of our 2014 2015 campaign to attempt to let's not be too ambitious but to get in the top six This then puts Bowers credentials into light. Defiinites Spurr Hanley Cairney Lowe (Right Back only) Conway Evans Possibles Marshall That's it for me hence the need for a tactically astute manager to sort the future direction of our club out Shock omissions Robinson has been ok however to slow now to get down to low shots tonight and Bolton 2 recent examples Rhodes just to lightweight slow and cannot hold the ball up / link up with midfield Gestede works hard but lacks skill nothing sticks when played up to him either. The rest quite frankly are an embarrassment to be part of a squad supposedly aiming for top 6. They unfortunately are just not good enough or skilful enough. Taylor as an example seems a great lad but simply just not good eenough[/p][/quote]Don't agree with the Rhodes omission - he aint perfect but he scores goals and that is so important for any club in any division - his loss would be massive, especially when they replace him with a dud. It aint Rhodes fault that GB is tactically negative. Just think how many goals Rhodes would score under an attack minded manager - a hell of a lot more. That said, I do agree with the rest of your squad assessment although I would keep King & Killgallon as well. J.C - Rishton
  • Score: 4

7:32am Thu 13 Mar 14

M4CCY says...

Riverside 7 wrote:
Bowyer’s supporters have said all season – ‘remember where we were when he took over’.

Well after tonight’s game I did.
I remembered the awful performance at home against Millwall in the FA Cup quarter final but then I realised that tonight’s performance against Bournemouth was no better.

We have a team containing 4 loan players, bereft of any creativity and full of journeymen such as Feeney, Varney, Gestede, Taylor etc, etc.

A friend of mine at half time asked me ‘why does Bowyer keep signing the same type of player?
I think he was right.
Is there any difference between Marshall, Conway, Varney, Feeney, Evans, Dabo (although like Songo’o, nobody has even seen Dabo play)?

More importantly, are they any better than the players he has sent out on loan such as Josh Morris, Rochina, and Judge etc.

Come on Derek Shaw, please, please sign a proven manager and give him time to assess the squad before next season.
Malkie Mackay is available, has a proven track record and I am certain he would be preferable to persevering with Bowyer.
I have said all along that GB may be a nice guy but he is not a winner.

After the Burnley game, out of a straw poll of 8 fellow season ticket holders, only one voted to keep Bowyer as boss next season.
After tonight’s game, even he had changed his mind.
I agree, everyone is entitled to their opinion however I am shocked by the general consensus. These 8 individuals don't share the views of the fans I know.

Generally speaking I have enjoyed going down to ewood this season.

Bowyer has had no budget to work with, a financial fair play penalty hanging over him and has had to assemble a completely new squad.

We have a very promising young squad and an opportunity to build on a season that has until now always promised the possibility of a top 6 finish.

Bowyer is inexperienced but without him I cant imagine where we would be now. He needs at least 12 more months! It all seems incredibly ungrateful and unreasonable to me. Don't forget where we were 18 months ago. We can't afford to start again, let things settle....Rome wasn't built in a day!

Okay so we change manager 1. Who do you bring in 2. What guarantee does it offer? None!
[quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote: Bowyer’s supporters have said all season – ‘remember where we were when he took over’. Well after tonight’s game I did. I remembered the awful performance at home against Millwall in the FA Cup quarter final but then I realised that tonight’s performance against Bournemouth was no better. We have a team containing 4 loan players, bereft of any creativity and full of journeymen such as Feeney, Varney, Gestede, Taylor etc, etc. A friend of mine at half time asked me ‘why does Bowyer keep signing the same type of player? I think he was right. Is there any difference between Marshall, Conway, Varney, Feeney, Evans, Dabo (although like Songo’o, nobody has even seen Dabo play)? More importantly, are they any better than the players he has sent out on loan such as Josh Morris, Rochina, and Judge etc. Come on Derek Shaw, please, please sign a proven manager and give him time to assess the squad before next season. Malkie Mackay is available, has a proven track record and I am certain he would be preferable to persevering with Bowyer. I have said all along that GB may be a nice guy but he is not a winner. After the Burnley game, out of a straw poll of 8 fellow season ticket holders, only one voted to keep Bowyer as boss next season. After tonight’s game, even he had changed his mind.[/p][/quote]I agree, everyone is entitled to their opinion however I am shocked by the general consensus. These 8 individuals don't share the views of the fans I know. Generally speaking I have enjoyed going down to ewood this season. Bowyer has had no budget to work with, a financial fair play penalty hanging over him and has had to assemble a completely new squad. We have a very promising young squad and an opportunity to build on a season that has until now always promised the possibility of a top 6 finish. Bowyer is inexperienced but without him I cant imagine where we would be now. He needs at least 12 more months! It all seems incredibly ungrateful and unreasonable to me. Don't forget where we were 18 months ago. We can't afford to start again, let things settle....Rome wasn't built in a day! Okay so we change manager 1. Who do you bring in 2. What guarantee does it offer? None! M4CCY
  • Score: -3

7:40am Thu 13 Mar 14

chickenfarm says...

Wait till Saturday you can have a Push for the play off's then
Wait till Saturday you can have a Push for the play off's then chickenfarm
  • Score: -1

7:49am Thu 13 Mar 14

bring back the good old days says...

noddy57 wrote:
l have deliberately overlooked the posts because l want to state my case without any other distraction,first of all this result tonight at home to Bournemouth is unacceptable,l said recently that we had to win every home game and pick up a point away from home to mix it with the big hitters,,well l,m afraid its goodnight Vienna in more ways than one,we are on the slide and l blame the players for not being up for the fight and l also blame Gary Bowyer for not demanding effort and its that simple ,Gary Aquired these players and they are simply not good enough,we have to put in place a proven manager for next season and back him with big money if the Venky,s want success, if not then the game really is up for everyone concerned with Blackburn Rovers,
Noddy, I admire your restraint in using the word 'unacceptable', you being like myself not being prone to irrational outbursts!
But as a poster above said 'Millwall last year' have we REALLY moved on?

You also like myself can see that this marks the decline in GB's tenure, that is if the owners intent is really to make a fist of it (next season that is).

Its Garys team now, and they are clearly found wanting, in respect of making a challenge.

I fully respect his comments about giving managers time, but a some point hard decisions have to be made, upon assessing progress made, or in this case not.

I believe GB has gone as far as his abilities allow, and sadly I have to say that I just do not see the sort of attributes coming forth that mark him out as a future success.
It may well be the effort made in getting this far, not helped by the shambles surrounding his tenure, and e has simply drained himself, and this is reflected by his playing staffs performances.
If so it is best to be realistic and recognise it for what it is.
The really sad part is it would mean GB leaving the club, as I could not see any way he would step back into his od job.

Its just a case now of the inevitable broadcast from DS defending his manager in time of turmoil.
[quote][p][bold]noddy57[/bold] wrote: l have deliberately overlooked the posts because l want to state my case without any other distraction,first of all this result tonight at home to Bournemouth is unacceptable,l said recently that we had to win every home game and pick up a point away from home to mix it with the big hitters,,well l,m afraid its goodnight Vienna in more ways than one,we are on the slide and l blame the players for not being up for the fight and l also blame Gary Bowyer for not demanding effort and its that simple ,Gary Aquired these players and they are simply not good enough,we have to put in place a proven manager for next season and back him with big money if the Venky,s want success, if not then the game really is up for everyone concerned with Blackburn Rovers,[/p][/quote]Noddy, I admire your restraint in using the word 'unacceptable', you being like myself not being prone to irrational outbursts! But as a poster above said 'Millwall last year' have we REALLY moved on? You also like myself can see that this marks the decline in GB's tenure, that is if the owners intent is really to make a fist of it (next season that is). Its Garys team now, and they are clearly found wanting, in respect of making a challenge. I fully respect his comments about giving managers time, but a some point hard decisions have to be made, upon assessing progress made, or in this case not. I believe GB has gone as far as his abilities allow, and sadly I have to say that I just do not see the sort of attributes coming forth that mark him out as a future success. It may well be the effort made in getting this far, not helped by the shambles surrounding his tenure, and e has simply drained himself, and this is reflected by his playing staffs performances. If so it is best to be realistic and recognise it for what it is. The really sad part is it would mean GB leaving the club, as I could not see any way he would step back into his od job. Its just a case now of the inevitable broadcast from DS defending his manager in time of turmoil. bring back the good old days
  • Score: 5

7:57am Thu 13 Mar 14

A Darener says...

A plea to the LT.......DO NOT MENTION THE PLAYOFFS AGAIN this season.
A plea to the LT.......DO NOT MENTION THE PLAYOFFS AGAIN this season. A Darener
  • Score: 11

8:39am Thu 13 Mar 14

Garylla says...

Riverside 7 wrote:
Bowyer’s supporters have said all season – ‘remember where we were when he took over’.

Well after tonight’s game I did.
I remembered the awful performance at home against Millwall in the FA Cup quarter final but then I realised that tonight’s performance against Bournemouth was no better.

We have a team containing 4 loan players, bereft of any creativity and full of journeymen such as Feeney, Varney, Gestede, Taylor etc, etc.

A friend of mine at half time asked me ‘why does Bowyer keep signing the same type of player?
I think he was right.
Is there any difference between Marshall, Conway, Varney, Feeney, Evans, Dabo (although like Songo’o, nobody has even seen Dabo play)?

More importantly, are they any better than the players he has sent out on loan such as Josh Morris, Rochina, and Judge etc.

Come on Derek Shaw, please, please sign a proven manager and give him time to assess the squad before next season.
Malkie Mackay is available, has a proven track record and I am certain he would be preferable to persevering with Bowyer.
I have said all along that GB may be a nice guy but he is not a winner.

After the Burnley game, out of a straw poll of 8 fellow season ticket holders, only one voted to keep Bowyer as boss next season.
After tonight’s game, even he had changed his mind.
I agree with what you say about transfer dealings. To replace Rochina (immense skill) and Judge (real passion) with Feeney and Varney and not replace Dann just doesn't make sense. It seems to me like he's signed a load of Yes Men.
We clearly need a right back with some bite and a midfielder with some real passion...why didn't he sign Jones who would have jumped at the chance...Kane has got worse this season so where's the coaching, and we have never devised a plan to service Rhodes.
Thanks Gary for some stability but do yourself and the club a big favour and ask to go back to your previous job.
[quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote: Bowyer’s supporters have said all season – ‘remember where we were when he took over’. Well after tonight’s game I did. I remembered the awful performance at home against Millwall in the FA Cup quarter final but then I realised that tonight’s performance against Bournemouth was no better. We have a team containing 4 loan players, bereft of any creativity and full of journeymen such as Feeney, Varney, Gestede, Taylor etc, etc. A friend of mine at half time asked me ‘why does Bowyer keep signing the same type of player? I think he was right. Is there any difference between Marshall, Conway, Varney, Feeney, Evans, Dabo (although like Songo’o, nobody has even seen Dabo play)? More importantly, are they any better than the players he has sent out on loan such as Josh Morris, Rochina, and Judge etc. Come on Derek Shaw, please, please sign a proven manager and give him time to assess the squad before next season. Malkie Mackay is available, has a proven track record and I am certain he would be preferable to persevering with Bowyer. I have said all along that GB may be a nice guy but he is not a winner. After the Burnley game, out of a straw poll of 8 fellow season ticket holders, only one voted to keep Bowyer as boss next season. After tonight’s game, even he had changed his mind.[/p][/quote]I agree with what you say about transfer dealings. To replace Rochina (immense skill) and Judge (real passion) with Feeney and Varney and not replace Dann just doesn't make sense. It seems to me like he's signed a load of Yes Men. We clearly need a right back with some bite and a midfielder with some real passion...why didn't he sign Jones who would have jumped at the chance...Kane has got worse this season so where's the coaching, and we have never devised a plan to service Rhodes. Thanks Gary for some stability but do yourself and the club a big favour and ask to go back to your previous job. Garylla
  • Score: 3

8:39am Thu 13 Mar 14

Riverside 7 says...

M4CCY wrote:
Riverside 7 wrote:
Bowyer’s supporters have said all season – ‘remember where we were when he took over’.

Well after tonight’s game I did.
I remembered the awful performance at home against Millwall in the FA Cup quarter final but then I realised that tonight’s performance against Bournemouth was no better.

We have a team containing 4 loan players, bereft of any creativity and full of journeymen such as Feeney, Varney, Gestede, Taylor etc, etc.

A friend of mine at half time asked me ‘why does Bowyer keep signing the same type of player?
I think he was right.
Is there any difference between Marshall, Conway, Varney, Feeney, Evans, Dabo (although like Songo’o, nobody has even seen Dabo play)?

More importantly, are they any better than the players he has sent out on loan such as Josh Morris, Rochina, and Judge etc.

Come on Derek Shaw, please, please sign a proven manager and give him time to assess the squad before next season.
Malkie Mackay is available, has a proven track record and I am certain he would be preferable to persevering with Bowyer.
I have said all along that GB may be a nice guy but he is not a winner.

After the Burnley game, out of a straw poll of 8 fellow season ticket holders, only one voted to keep Bowyer as boss next season.
After tonight’s game, even he had changed his mind.
I agree, everyone is entitled to their opinion however I am shocked by the general consensus. These 8 individuals don't share the views of the fans I know.

Generally speaking I have enjoyed going down to ewood this season.

Bowyer has had no budget to work with, a financial fair play penalty hanging over him and has had to assemble a completely new squad.

We have a very promising young squad and an opportunity to build on a season that has until now always promised the possibility of a top 6 finish.

Bowyer is inexperienced but without him I cant imagine where we would be now. He needs at least 12 more months! It all seems incredibly ungrateful and unreasonable to me. Don't forget where we were 18 months ago. We can't afford to start again, let things settle....Rome wasn't built in a day!

Okay so we change manager 1. Who do you bring in 2. What guarantee does it offer? None!
Well M4ccy, I'm glad you've enjoyed going down to Ewood his season
However, you must be in a very small minority and easily pleased.

How you must have enjoyed Bowyers negative tactics, his negative team selections (2 holding midfield players at home) and a lack of goals scored.
Do you realise that we have scored just 20 goals in our last 21 Championship games.
That I’m afraid is relegation form.

You claim that ‘Bowyer has had no budget to work with’.
That simply isn’t true.

He has now signed a total of 21 players (including players on loan) and he has been backed by Venkys throughout the season.
Compare this to Sean Dyche who has spent absolutely nothing!

And you even said – ‘don’t forget where we were’
[quote][p][bold]M4CCY[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote: Bowyer’s supporters have said all season – ‘remember where we were when he took over’. Well after tonight’s game I did. I remembered the awful performance at home against Millwall in the FA Cup quarter final but then I realised that tonight’s performance against Bournemouth was no better. We have a team containing 4 loan players, bereft of any creativity and full of journeymen such as Feeney, Varney, Gestede, Taylor etc, etc. A friend of mine at half time asked me ‘why does Bowyer keep signing the same type of player? I think he was right. Is there any difference between Marshall, Conway, Varney, Feeney, Evans, Dabo (although like Songo’o, nobody has even seen Dabo play)? More importantly, are they any better than the players he has sent out on loan such as Josh Morris, Rochina, and Judge etc. Come on Derek Shaw, please, please sign a proven manager and give him time to assess the squad before next season. Malkie Mackay is available, has a proven track record and I am certain he would be preferable to persevering with Bowyer. I have said all along that GB may be a nice guy but he is not a winner. After the Burnley game, out of a straw poll of 8 fellow season ticket holders, only one voted to keep Bowyer as boss next season. After tonight’s game, even he had changed his mind.[/p][/quote]I agree, everyone is entitled to their opinion however I am shocked by the general consensus. These 8 individuals don't share the views of the fans I know. Generally speaking I have enjoyed going down to ewood this season. Bowyer has had no budget to work with, a financial fair play penalty hanging over him and has had to assemble a completely new squad. We have a very promising young squad and an opportunity to build on a season that has until now always promised the possibility of a top 6 finish. Bowyer is inexperienced but without him I cant imagine where we would be now. He needs at least 12 more months! It all seems incredibly ungrateful and unreasonable to me. Don't forget where we were 18 months ago. We can't afford to start again, let things settle....Rome wasn't built in a day! Okay so we change manager 1. Who do you bring in 2. What guarantee does it offer? None![/p][/quote]Well M4ccy, I'm glad you've enjoyed going down to Ewood his season However, you must be in a very small minority and easily pleased. How you must have enjoyed Bowyers negative tactics, his negative team selections (2 holding midfield players at home) and a lack of goals scored. Do you realise that we have scored just 20 goals in our last 21 Championship games. That I’m afraid is relegation form. You claim that ‘Bowyer has had no budget to work with’. That simply isn’t true. He has now signed a total of 21 players (including players on loan) and he has been backed by Venkys throughout the season. Compare this to Sean Dyche who has spent absolutely nothing! And you even said – ‘don’t forget where we were’ Riverside 7
  • Score: 7

8:52am Thu 13 Mar 14

Super_Clarets says...

24 (TWENTY-FOUR) points.

Come on now lads, it's getting embarrassing.
24 (TWENTY-FOUR) points. Come on now lads, it's getting embarrassing. Super_Clarets
  • Score: 1

9:06am Thu 13 Mar 14

vintageclaret says...

I warned you yesterday to beware of the Eddie Howe factor wanting to help his old club.

TO ALL THOSE MALICIOUS POSTERS who have expressed their disgusting comments on BFC blog about Ings injury: CONGRATULATIONS you have shown just how low scum can sink not rise above. I hope both he and Hanley find they are just niggles and can soon return to the fray Ings to resume the promotion push and Hanley to restore pride to BRFC - that's what true supporters wish, there again the low IQs do not really count as supporters
I warned you yesterday to beware of the Eddie Howe factor wanting to help his old club. TO ALL THOSE MALICIOUS POSTERS who have expressed their disgusting comments on BFC blog about Ings injury: CONGRATULATIONS you have shown just how low scum can sink not rise above. I hope both he and Hanley find they are just niggles and can soon return to the fray Ings to resume the promotion push and Hanley to restore pride to BRFC - that's what true supporters wish, there again the low IQs do not really count as supporters vintageclaret
  • Score: 6

9:24am Thu 13 Mar 14

Bazzer says...

anthony.horn wrote:
Yeah_nice_one! wrote:
i think most fans could see but wanted it to be different considering Bowyer is a likeable guy.true we have been unfortunate with injuries but some of GBs decisions have been quite honestly shocking at times and after watching his passionless post match drawl on sky after the burnley game my disappointment has turned to anger.
You had a manager who knew what he was doing, Sam Allardyce,he was clued up, and could work under the financial constraints, left after the Walker regime moved on. Yet you sacked him, amazing decision!
Yes, but he had upset Hasslem Hasslem.
[quote][p][bold]anthony.horn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Yeah_nice_one![/bold] wrote: i think most fans could see but wanted it to be different considering Bowyer is a likeable guy.true we have been unfortunate with injuries but some of GBs decisions have been quite honestly shocking at times and after watching his passionless post match drawl on sky after the burnley game my disappointment has turned to anger.[/p][/quote]You had a manager who knew what he was doing, Sam Allardyce,he was clued up, and could work under the financial constraints, left after the Walker regime moved on. Yet you sacked him, amazing decision![/p][/quote]Yes, but he had upset Hasslem Hasslem. Bazzer
  • Score: 0

9:37am Thu 13 Mar 14

moh says...

cboyer wrote:
anybody else think that tonight was crying out for rochina
i mentioned it to some supporters during the second half that we need someone like Rochina to come on. Big mistake sending him out on loan.
[quote][p][bold]cboyer[/bold] wrote: anybody else think that tonight was crying out for rochina[/p][/quote]i mentioned it to some supporters during the second half that we need someone like Rochina to come on. Big mistake sending him out on loan. moh
  • Score: 3

9:42am Thu 13 Mar 14

junction10 says...

conbro14 wrote:
I tend to agree with comments about bowyer and his tactical mistakes. I think it would be better if we kept bowyer until the end of the season and see where we are then. If things aren't looking great, then it shouldn't be too hard to pick up a half decent manager, considering all of the sackings from premier league clubs this season. Sacking him at this stage would surely make things worse.
"Its shouldn't be too hard to pick up a half decent manager from the premier league"

Laughable, don't forget what you are; a mid table championship club, you need to get this idea that you're a big fish in a small pond out of your heads. You're massively in debt. You have owners that don't understand the game. Your best players (Rhodes & Hanley) will most probably be gone by the start of next season with Dunn retiring. You have a set of fans (now the plastics have disappeared) that don't know who or what they want. Bowyer was the saviour of Blackburn less than a week ago, and now he's "got to go". You boys need to get real.
[quote][p][bold]conbro14[/bold] wrote: I tend to agree with comments about bowyer and his tactical mistakes. I think it would be better if we kept bowyer until the end of the season and see where we are then. If things aren't looking great, then it shouldn't be too hard to pick up a half decent manager, considering all of the sackings from premier league clubs this season. Sacking him at this stage would surely make things worse.[/p][/quote]"Its shouldn't be too hard to pick up a half decent manager from the premier league" Laughable, don't forget what you are; a mid table championship club, you need to get this idea that you're a big fish in a small pond out of your heads. You're massively in debt. You have owners that don't understand the game. Your best players (Rhodes & Hanley) will most probably be gone by the start of next season with Dunn retiring. You have a set of fans (now the plastics have disappeared) that don't know who or what they want. Bowyer was the saviour of Blackburn less than a week ago, and now he's "got to go". You boys need to get real. junction10
  • Score: 0

9:42am Thu 13 Mar 14

Super_Clarets says...

Rumour's circulating on twitter that Venky's are mulling over the decision to remove Gary Bowyer from his position and install a new managerial dream team of Colin Hendry as head coach with soon to return Shebby Singh as Director of Football.
Rumour's circulating on twitter that Venky's are mulling over the decision to remove Gary Bowyer from his position and install a new managerial dream team of Colin Hendry as head coach with soon to return Shebby Singh as Director of Football. Super_Clarets
  • Score: -1

9:47am Thu 13 Mar 14

TurfMoorTom says...

J.C - Rishton wrote:
MattNewcastle wrote:
Who would you wish to be around first weekend at the beginning of our 2014 2015 campaign to attempt to let's not be too ambitious but to get in the top six

This then puts Bowers credentials into light.

Defiinites
Spurr
Hanley
Cairney
Lowe (Right Back only)
Conway
Evans

Possibles
Marshall

That's it for me hence the need for a tactically astute manager to sort the future direction of our club out

Shock omissions
Robinson has been ok however to slow now to get down to low shots tonight and Bolton 2 recent examples
Rhodes just to lightweight slow and cannot hold the ball up / link up with midfield
Gestede works hard but lacks skill nothing sticks when played up to him either.

The rest quite frankly are an embarrassment to be part of a squad supposedly aiming for top 6. They unfortunately are just not good enough or skilful enough. Taylor as an example seems a great lad but simply just not good eenough
Don't agree with the Rhodes omission - he aint perfect but he scores goals and that is so important for any club in any division - his loss would be massive, especially when they replace him with a dud.

It aint Rhodes fault that GB is tactically negative. Just think how many goals Rhodes would score under an attack minded manager - a hell of a lot more.

That said, I do agree with the rest of your squad assessment although I would keep King & Killgallon as well.
To my thinking Marshall is deinitley in and you've missed King (who would chop and change with those 2). Can't leave out Rhodes (unless money is needed) and no finer keeper than Robbo to bring young keepers on plus still better than most Champonship keepers in isolation and can organize a defence. With a few squad players on the bench, that's a pretty good Championship team!!

Ignore the doomsayers - many are Burnley fans and those that aren't - chin up, unfortunately its where the club is now, it's a journey and work in progress with Bowyer who's a proper club man. Give him a chance - if it comes good it'll be the most solid and respectable way forward. Two things that have been missing.

I honestly think part of this is a generation of Rovers fans who've known little but relative success.

Burnley have also been unlucky now with Ings' injury. Paricularly when you consider Dyches training and dietary regime which was thought to make injuries impossible.

Times change and the real test is that all pull together, however frustrating a sticky patch might be
[quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MattNewcastle[/bold] wrote: Who would you wish to be around first weekend at the beginning of our 2014 2015 campaign to attempt to let's not be too ambitious but to get in the top six This then puts Bowers credentials into light. Defiinites Spurr Hanley Cairney Lowe (Right Back only) Conway Evans Possibles Marshall That's it for me hence the need for a tactically astute manager to sort the future direction of our club out Shock omissions Robinson has been ok however to slow now to get down to low shots tonight and Bolton 2 recent examples Rhodes just to lightweight slow and cannot hold the ball up / link up with midfield Gestede works hard but lacks skill nothing sticks when played up to him either. The rest quite frankly are an embarrassment to be part of a squad supposedly aiming for top 6. They unfortunately are just not good enough or skilful enough. Taylor as an example seems a great lad but simply just not good eenough[/p][/quote]Don't agree with the Rhodes omission - he aint perfect but he scores goals and that is so important for any club in any division - his loss would be massive, especially when they replace him with a dud. It aint Rhodes fault that GB is tactically negative. Just think how many goals Rhodes would score under an attack minded manager - a hell of a lot more. That said, I do agree with the rest of your squad assessment although I would keep King & Killgallon as well.[/p][/quote]To my thinking Marshall is deinitley in and you've missed King (who would chop and change with those 2). Can't leave out Rhodes (unless money is needed) and no finer keeper than Robbo to bring young keepers on plus still better than most Champonship keepers in isolation and can organize a defence. With a few squad players on the bench, that's a pretty good Championship team!! Ignore the doomsayers - many are Burnley fans and those that aren't - chin up, unfortunately its where the club is now, it's a journey and work in progress with Bowyer who's a proper club man. Give him a chance - if it comes good it'll be the most solid and respectable way forward. Two things that have been missing. I honestly think part of this is a generation of Rovers fans who've known little but relative success. Burnley have also been unlucky now with Ings' injury. Paricularly when you consider Dyches training and dietary regime which was thought to make injuries impossible. Times change and the real test is that all pull together, however frustrating a sticky patch might be TurfMoorTom
  • Score: -2

9:49am Thu 13 Mar 14

Manuel Hung says...

bluerob wrote:
Steven Seagull wrote:
Give_Kean_A_Chance wrote:
bluerob wrote:
Bournemouth looked like a top of the table team tonight, they gave us a real footballing lesson. They moved and passed and always had an option to release the ball, unlike us who hoofed it up and hoped.

I want GB to succeed but that performance was totally unacceptable, this squad of players should be firmly in the top 6 of this division so questions have to be asked.
This squad of players should be firmly in the top 6? Why? Who is there that is any good apart from Rhodes? Most of them are rejects, players other clubs didn't want and I don't mean good clubs either
Bluerob is just another delusional no dad who thinks the division owes them something because they are once proud Blackburn Rovers. He doesn't seem to understand that they are where they are on merit not by past reputation.

Arrogance beyond belief.
Listen dingle boy, when it comes to being deluded you lot are the masters.

I don't expect anything by reputation, but im very sure I know the Rovers players better than you do and quite frankly I don't give a t..s what you think about them .

Now run along and start worrying about your new rivals in the Premier league and leave us to get our own house in order.
Why don't you cry about it and see if that helps?
[quote][p][bold]bluerob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Give_Kean_A_Chance[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bluerob[/bold] wrote: Bournemouth looked like a top of the table team tonight, they gave us a real footballing lesson. They moved and passed and always had an option to release the ball, unlike us who hoofed it up and hoped. I want GB to succeed but that performance was totally unacceptable, this squad of players should be firmly in the top 6 of this division so questions have to be asked.[/p][/quote]This squad of players should be firmly in the top 6? Why? Who is there that is any good apart from Rhodes? Most of them are rejects, players other clubs didn't want and I don't mean good clubs either[/p][/quote]Bluerob is just another delusional no dad who thinks the division owes them something because they are once proud Blackburn Rovers. He doesn't seem to understand that they are where they are on merit not by past reputation. Arrogance beyond belief.[/p][/quote]Listen dingle boy, when it comes to being deluded you lot are the masters. I don't expect anything by reputation, but im very sure I know the Rovers players better than you do and quite frankly I don't give a t..s what you think about them . Now run along and start worrying about your new rivals in the Premier league and leave us to get our own house in order.[/p][/quote]Why don't you cry about it and see if that helps? Manuel Hung
  • Score: 0

9:51am Thu 13 Mar 14

Harwoodstblue says...

anthony.horn wrote:
Yeah_nice_one! wrote:
i think most fans could see but wanted it to be different considering Bowyer is a likeable guy.true we have been unfortunate with injuries but some of GBs decisions have been quite honestly shocking at times and after watching his passionless post match drawl on sky after the burnley game my disappointment has turned to anger.
You had a manager who knew what he was doing, Sam Allardyce,he was clued up, and could work under the financial constraints, left after the Walker regime moved on. Yet you sacked him, amazing decision!
A little word in your ear......Venkys, or haven't you been listening this last three years?
[quote][p][bold]anthony.horn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Yeah_nice_one![/bold] wrote: i think most fans could see but wanted it to be different considering Bowyer is a likeable guy.true we have been unfortunate with injuries but some of GBs decisions have been quite honestly shocking at times and after watching his passionless post match drawl on sky after the burnley game my disappointment has turned to anger.[/p][/quote]You had a manager who knew what he was doing, Sam Allardyce,he was clued up, and could work under the financial constraints, left after the Walker regime moved on. Yet you sacked him, amazing decision![/p][/quote]A little word in your ear......Venkys, or haven't you been listening this last three years? Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 3

10:05am Thu 13 Mar 14

owd nick says...

After last night I am still speechless.

I have never seen such a spineless, inept, totally disorganised display from any team in a Rovers shirt as I witnessed last night, and I have been supporting them for 44 years, absolutely appalling.

They made Bournemouth look like Barcelona.

Just can't say anymore.
After last night I am still speechless. I have never seen such a spineless, inept, totally disorganised display from any team in a Rovers shirt as I witnessed last night, and I have been supporting them for 44 years, absolutely appalling. They made Bournemouth look like Barcelona. Just can't say anymore. owd nick
  • Score: 6

10:08am Thu 13 Mar 14

Manuel Hung says...

Steven Seagull wrote:
Give_Kean_A_Chance wrote:
bluerob wrote:
Bournemouth looked like a top of the table team tonight, they gave us a real footballing lesson. They moved and passed and always had an option to release the ball, unlike us who hoofed it up and hoped.

I want GB to succeed but that performance was totally unacceptable, this squad of players should be firmly in the top 6 of this division so questions have to be asked.
This squad of players should be firmly in the top 6? Why? Who is there that is any good apart from Rhodes? Most of them are rejects, players other clubs didn't want and I don't mean good clubs either
Bluerob is just another delusional no dad who thinks the division owes them something because they are once proud Blackburn Rovers. He doesn't seem to understand that they are where they are on merit not by past reputation.

Arrogance beyond belief.
If they keep stamping their feet and crying for long enough may be the FA will intervene and move them back into the Prem in a Champions League place?

After all that is where they rightfully belong and they have suffered for long enough in the ' CHUMPIONSHIP ' as they used to call it.

While they are at it the FA can 'rubber stamp' the fact that FFP will apply to every other team apart from Wowvers who can just continue to do what they want. Once they have done that Sir Alex Ferguson MUST come out of retirement and take the helm at Fleawood as every other Manager is not worthy of the role.

I think that should do it?
[quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Give_Kean_A_Chance[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bluerob[/bold] wrote: Bournemouth looked like a top of the table team tonight, they gave us a real footballing lesson. They moved and passed and always had an option to release the ball, unlike us who hoofed it up and hoped. I want GB to succeed but that performance was totally unacceptable, this squad of players should be firmly in the top 6 of this division so questions have to be asked.[/p][/quote]This squad of players should be firmly in the top 6? Why? Who is there that is any good apart from Rhodes? Most of them are rejects, players other clubs didn't want and I don't mean good clubs either[/p][/quote]Bluerob is just another delusional no dad who thinks the division owes them something because they are once proud Blackburn Rovers. He doesn't seem to understand that they are where they are on merit not by past reputation. Arrogance beyond belief.[/p][/quote]If they keep stamping their feet and crying for long enough may be the FA will intervene and move them back into the Prem in a Champions League place? After all that is where they rightfully belong and they have suffered for long enough in the ' CHUMPIONSHIP ' as they used to call it. While they are at it the FA can 'rubber stamp' the fact that FFP will apply to every other team apart from Wowvers who can just continue to do what they want. Once they have done that Sir Alex Ferguson MUST come out of retirement and take the helm at Fleawood as every other Manager is not worthy of the role. I think that should do it? Manuel Hung
  • Score: -1

10:08am Thu 13 Mar 14

1riversider says...

Wasn't at the match last night, but from all accounts, the performance and tactics were totally unacceptable.

No doubt GB is a nice bloke, but is he seriously up to the job. Stability is often quoted by the optimists as the job he has achieved this season. Tactically, he is plainly inept. Yes, he has unloaded a load of dead wood, but what has he replaced them with? Nothing but another load of dead wood - journeymen, and unwanted loanees and reserves from other clubs! Are they any better?

Performances are up and down, but overall are generally on a downward slope. Optimism is gradually disappearing, and there is no leadership from anyone at the club - could they not even find a Rovers fan to do the PR job, rather than a die-hard Everton fan?

Sadly, hope for the future is rapidly going down the tubes. We desperately need an experienced man at the helm, and quickly, otherwise we will continue on this downward slope.
Wasn't at the match last night, but from all accounts, the performance and tactics were totally unacceptable. No doubt GB is a nice bloke, but is he seriously up to the job. Stability is often quoted by the optimists as the job he has achieved this season. Tactically, he is plainly inept. Yes, he has unloaded a load of dead wood, but what has he replaced them with? Nothing but another load of dead wood - journeymen, and unwanted loanees and reserves from other clubs! Are they any better? Performances are up and down, but overall are generally on a downward slope. Optimism is gradually disappearing, and there is no leadership from anyone at the club - could they not even find a Rovers fan to do the PR job, rather than a die-hard Everton fan? Sadly, hope for the future is rapidly going down the tubes. We desperately need an experienced man at the helm, and quickly, otherwise we will continue on this downward slope. 1riversider
  • Score: 4

10:11am Thu 13 Mar 14

bburnrover says...

The team isn't good enough Burnley are doing well because they have 4 decent players plus a manager who is tatically aware and they work really hard for each other. Barcelona lose the ball and what happen 3 players suddenly surround the player with the ball and they win it back within seconds its not magic it requires the players to be fully motivated and hard working ,unfortunately for us GB (nice bloke) is obviously not a motivator he is too wooden we need a bit of passion to come from our coaching staff. A new manager is therefore a necessity before it turns ugly like it did with Kean when most of us knew he could not hack it after 6 games in charge but there again who listens to the fans? they just take our pennies.
The team isn't good enough Burnley are doing well because they have 4 decent players plus a manager who is tatically aware and they work really hard for each other. Barcelona lose the ball and what happen 3 players suddenly surround the player with the ball and they win it back within seconds its not magic it requires the players to be fully motivated and hard working ,unfortunately for us GB (nice bloke) is obviously not a motivator he is too wooden we need a bit of passion to come from our coaching staff. A new manager is therefore a necessity before it turns ugly like it did with Kean when most of us knew he could not hack it after 6 games in charge but there again who listens to the fans? they just take our pennies. bburnrover
  • Score: 1

10:25am Thu 13 Mar 14

krazzi horse says...

A TEAM FULL OF DUDDS.............AN
D TOE BUNGING DONKEYS.............
........BEAMO.......
...BEAMO.
A TEAM FULL OF DUDDS.............AN D TOE BUNGING DONKEYS............. ........BEAMO....... ...BEAMO. krazzi horse
  • Score: 1

10:27am Thu 13 Mar 14

Stretch_22 says...

vintageclaret wrote:
I warned you yesterday to beware of the Eddie Howe factor wanting to help his old club.

TO ALL THOSE MALICIOUS POSTERS who have expressed their disgusting comments on BFC blog about Ings injury: CONGRATULATIONS you have shown just how low scum can sink not rise above. I hope both he and Hanley find they are just niggles and can soon return to the fray Ings to resume the promotion push and Hanley to restore pride to BRFC - that's what true supporters wish, there again the low IQs do not really count as supporters
Finally found a Burnley fan with a bit of sense. Excellent post, there are idiots on both sides that ruin it for both clubs.
[quote][p][bold]vintageclaret[/bold] wrote: I warned you yesterday to beware of the Eddie Howe factor wanting to help his old club. TO ALL THOSE MALICIOUS POSTERS who have expressed their disgusting comments on BFC blog about Ings injury: CONGRATULATIONS you have shown just how low scum can sink not rise above. I hope both he and Hanley find they are just niggles and can soon return to the fray Ings to resume the promotion push and Hanley to restore pride to BRFC - that's what true supporters wish, there again the low IQs do not really count as supporters[/p][/quote]Finally found a Burnley fan with a bit of sense. Excellent post, there are idiots on both sides that ruin it for both clubs. Stretch_22
  • Score: 0

10:38am Thu 13 Mar 14

bigste says...

I said it some time ago and I say it again. The team is not good enoiugh. We are sadly lacking some decent midfielders. Only Dunny is the class we need but he is not a 90 minute player any more and injures too easily. We have always had midfielders that can turn a game, until now. Mid field is the engine room and it needs a rebore or even a complete new block.
I said it some time ago and I say it again. The team is not good enoiugh. We are sadly lacking some decent midfielders. Only Dunny is the class we need but he is not a 90 minute player any more and injures too easily. We have always had midfielders that can turn a game, until now. Mid field is the engine room and it needs a rebore or even a complete new block. bigste
  • Score: 0

10:38am Thu 13 Mar 14

.Lancs _ Pensioner says...

Said it from day one nice guy GB but not the man for the job we need someone with abit of fire in them to motivate the players and kick there backsides into action.

Out with bowyer and the venkys.
Said it from day one nice guy GB but not the man for the job we need someone with abit of fire in them to motivate the players and kick there backsides into action. Out with bowyer and the venkys. .Lancs _ Pensioner
  • Score: 0

10:40am Thu 13 Mar 14

dis-illusioned Rover says...

***** PREDICTION *****

Wait for the ultimate humiliation still yet to come ....

IF and I say "IF" we become mathematically safe of relegation, plus an extra 10 points, (the way things are going at the minute, not even confident of that!!) .....

Watch the owners put the club into administration, thereby losing their debts they have amassed and wiping the slate clean !!
***** PREDICTION ***** Wait for the ultimate humiliation still yet to come .... IF and I say "IF" we become mathematically safe of relegation, plus an extra 10 points, (the way things are going at the minute, not even confident of that!!) ..... Watch the owners put the club into administration, thereby losing their debts they have amassed and wiping the slate clean !! dis-illusioned Rover
  • Score: 1

10:46am Thu 13 Mar 14

tall in the saddle says...

I forecast a long time ago that Burnley would finish second and Blackburn 12th in the league. However, last night’s result at Ewood has caused me to revise my forecast and I now think Rovers will finish 14th. They have obviously been punching above their weight thanks to great management from GB (I don’t knowe how he’s kept them up there in 12th) and have been lucky that Jordan Rhodes has not got injured. Yes they’ve been lucky up to now, but the bubble has burst.
I forecast a long time ago that Burnley would finish second and Blackburn 12th in the league. However, last night’s result at Ewood has caused me to revise my forecast and I now think Rovers will finish 14th. They have obviously been punching above their weight thanks to great management from GB (I don’t knowe how he’s kept them up there in 12th) and have been lucky that Jordan Rhodes has not got injured. Yes they’ve been lucky up to now, but the bubble has burst. tall in the saddle
  • Score: 0

11:01am Thu 13 Mar 14

owd nick says...

.Lancs _ Pensioner wrote:
Said it from day one nice guy GB but not the man for the job we need someone with abit of fire in them to motivate the players and kick there backsides into action.

Out with bowyer and the venkys.
Troll
[quote][p][bold].Lancs _ Pensioner[/bold] wrote: Said it from day one nice guy GB but not the man for the job we need someone with abit of fire in them to motivate the players and kick there backsides into action. Out with bowyer and the venkys.[/p][/quote]Troll owd nick
  • Score: -1

11:02am Thu 13 Mar 14

madari says...

dis-illusioned Rover wrote:
***** PREDICTION *****

Wait for the ultimate humiliation still yet to come ....

IF and I say "IF" we become mathematically safe of relegation, plus an extra 10 points, (the way things are going at the minute, not even confident of that!!) .....

Watch the owners put the club into administration, thereby losing their debts they have amassed and wiping the slate clean !!
Madari the snake charmer says:

Let me go on record by stating that this is going t be the boll-ewood`s best season before they go tumbling down the divisions first like PNE and then like the once mighty POMPEY ...go see where they have ended up !!

IN VENKEY`s WE TRUST....IMMIGRATION DOES HAVE IT`s ADVANTAGES..HAHAHAAH
AHAHAA!!!....Up the CLARETS !!
[quote][p][bold]dis-illusioned Rover[/bold] wrote: ***** PREDICTION ***** Wait for the ultimate humiliation still yet to come .... IF and I say "IF" we become mathematically safe of relegation, plus an extra 10 points, (the way things are going at the minute, not even confident of that!!) ..... Watch the owners put the club into administration, thereby losing their debts they have amassed and wiping the slate clean !![/p][/quote]Madari the snake charmer says: Let me go on record by stating that this is going t be the boll-ewood`s best season before they go tumbling down the divisions first like PNE and then like the once mighty POMPEY [Portsmouth]...go see where they have ended up !! IN VENKEY`s WE TRUST....IMMIGRATION DOES HAVE IT`s ADVANTAGES..HAHAHAAH AHAHAA!!!....Up the CLARETS !! madari
  • Score: -1

11:02am Thu 13 Mar 14

madari says...

dis-illusioned Rover wrote:
***** PREDICTION *****

Wait for the ultimate humiliation still yet to come ....

IF and I say "IF" we become mathematically safe of relegation, plus an extra 10 points, (the way things are going at the minute, not even confident of that!!) .....

Watch the owners put the club into administration, thereby losing their debts they have amassed and wiping the slate clean !!
Madari the snake charmer says:

Let me go on record by stating that this is going t be the boll-ewood`s best season before they go tumbling down the divisions first like PNE and then like the once mighty POMPEY ...go see where they have ended up !!

IN VENKEY`s WE TRUST....IMMIGRATION DOES HAVE IT`s ADVANTAGES..HAHAHAAH
AHAHAA!!!....Up the CLARETS !!
[quote][p][bold]dis-illusioned Rover[/bold] wrote: ***** PREDICTION ***** Wait for the ultimate humiliation still yet to come .... IF and I say "IF" we become mathematically safe of relegation, plus an extra 10 points, (the way things are going at the minute, not even confident of that!!) ..... Watch the owners put the club into administration, thereby losing their debts they have amassed and wiping the slate clean !![/p][/quote]Madari the snake charmer says: Let me go on record by stating that this is going t be the boll-ewood`s best season before they go tumbling down the divisions first like PNE and then like the once mighty POMPEY [Portsmouth]...go see where they have ended up !! IN VENKEY`s WE TRUST....IMMIGRATION DOES HAVE IT`s ADVANTAGES..HAHAHAAH AHAHAA!!!....Up the CLARETS !! madari
  • Score: -1

11:02am Thu 13 Mar 14

madari says...

dis-illusioned Rover wrote:
***** PREDICTION *****

Wait for the ultimate humiliation still yet to come ....

IF and I say "IF" we become mathematically safe of relegation, plus an extra 10 points, (the way things are going at the minute, not even confident of that!!) .....

Watch the owners put the club into administration, thereby losing their debts they have amassed and wiping the slate clean !!
Madari the snake charmer says:

Let me go on record by stating that this is going t be the boll-ewood`s best season before they go tumbling down the divisions first like PNE and then like the once mighty POMPEY ...go see where they have ended up !!

IN VENKEY`s WE TRUST....IMMIGRATION DOES HAVE IT`s ADVANTAGES..HAHAHAAH
AHAHAA!!!....Up the CLARETS !!
[quote][p][bold]dis-illusioned Rover[/bold] wrote: ***** PREDICTION ***** Wait for the ultimate humiliation still yet to come .... IF and I say "IF" we become mathematically safe of relegation, plus an extra 10 points, (the way things are going at the minute, not even confident of that!!) ..... Watch the owners put the club into administration, thereby losing their debts they have amassed and wiping the slate clean !![/p][/quote]Madari the snake charmer says: Let me go on record by stating that this is going t be the boll-ewood`s best season before they go tumbling down the divisions first like PNE and then like the once mighty POMPEY [Portsmouth]...go see where they have ended up !! IN VENKEY`s WE TRUST....IMMIGRATION DOES HAVE IT`s ADVANTAGES..HAHAHAAH AHAHAA!!!....Up the CLARETS !! madari
  • Score: -2

11:07am Thu 13 Mar 14

owd nick says...

vintageclaret wrote:
I warned you yesterday to beware of the Eddie Howe factor wanting to help his old club.

TO ALL THOSE MALICIOUS POSTERS who have expressed their disgusting comments on BFC blog about Ings injury: CONGRATULATIONS you have shown just how low scum can sink not rise above. I hope both he and Hanley find they are just niggles and can soon return to the fray Ings to resume the promotion push and Hanley to restore pride to BRFC - that's what true supporters wish, there again the low IQs do not really count as supporters
Fair comment.

No-one should wish injury on rivals players whatever the feelings between the fans but I must admit to a wry smile when I heard because you have been so lucky with injuries this season, or the lack of them.

Hopefully the lad will be OK.
[quote][p][bold]vintageclaret[/bold] wrote: I warned you yesterday to beware of the Eddie Howe factor wanting to help his old club. TO ALL THOSE MALICIOUS POSTERS who have expressed their disgusting comments on BFC blog about Ings injury: CONGRATULATIONS you have shown just how low scum can sink not rise above. I hope both he and Hanley find they are just niggles and can soon return to the fray Ings to resume the promotion push and Hanley to restore pride to BRFC - that's what true supporters wish, there again the low IQs do not really count as supporters[/p][/quote]Fair comment. No-one should wish injury on rivals players whatever the feelings between the fans but I must admit to a wry smile when I heard because you have been so lucky with injuries this season, or the lack of them. Hopefully the lad will be OK. owd nick
  • Score: 0

11:30am Thu 13 Mar 14

TurfMoorTom says...

owd nick wrote:
vintageclaret wrote:
I warned you yesterday to beware of the Eddie Howe factor wanting to help his old club.

TO ALL THOSE MALICIOUS POSTERS who have expressed their disgusting comments on BFC blog about Ings injury: CONGRATULATIONS you have shown just how low scum can sink not rise above. I hope both he and Hanley find they are just niggles and can soon return to the fray Ings to resume the promotion push and Hanley to restore pride to BRFC - that's what true supporters wish, there again the low IQs do not really count as supporters
Fair comment.

No-one should wish injury on rivals players whatever the feelings between the fans but I must admit to a wry smile when I heard because you have been so lucky with injuries this season, or the lack of them.

Hopefully the lad will be OK.
But I don't think anyone has wished injury on anyone, just merely surprise that Dyche's 100% lifestyle, dietary and training philosophy has allowed for one injury in this competitive contact sport. Really quite unfortunate.
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vintageclaret[/bold] wrote: I warned you yesterday to beware of the Eddie Howe factor wanting to help his old club. TO ALL THOSE MALICIOUS POSTERS who have expressed their disgusting comments on BFC blog about Ings injury: CONGRATULATIONS you have shown just how low scum can sink not rise above. I hope both he and Hanley find they are just niggles and can soon return to the fray Ings to resume the promotion push and Hanley to restore pride to BRFC - that's what true supporters wish, there again the low IQs do not really count as supporters[/p][/quote]Fair comment. No-one should wish injury on rivals players whatever the feelings between the fans but I must admit to a wry smile when I heard because you have been so lucky with injuries this season, or the lack of them. Hopefully the lad will be OK.[/p][/quote]But I don't think anyone has wished injury on anyone, just merely surprise that Dyche's 100% lifestyle, dietary and training philosophy has allowed for one injury in this competitive contact sport. Really quite unfortunate. TurfMoorTom
  • Score: 0

12:02pm Thu 13 Mar 14

noddy57 says...

carltondry wrote:
noddy57 wrote:
l have deliberately overlooked the posts because l want to state my case without any other distraction,first of all this result tonight at home to Bournemouth is unacceptable,l said recently that we had to win every home game and pick up a point away from home to mix it with the big hitters,,well l,m afraid its goodnight Vienna in more ways than one,we are on the slide and l blame the players for not being up for the fight and l also blame Gary Bowyer for not demanding effort and its that simple ,Gary Aquired these players and they are simply not good enough,we have to put in place a proven manager for next season and back him with big money if the Venky,s want success, if not then the game really is up for everyone concerned with Blackburn Rovers,
Spot on Noddy, if the brief to GB was to create a mid table championship club then that's exactly what he's achieved . If you add in a bit of luck and no injuries there's an outside chance of the play off's. Promotion, they've not invented those drugs yet !
It never ceases to amaze me how owners appoint managers with no experience ( Rovers are not alone here ) and expect them to be successful, utter madness and how many times has it actually worked consistently barring a freak one off lucky season.
I remember the quote uttered at the start of this fiasco
"Champions League in 4 years " knew back then if you hear such a stupid comment then its only going to go the other way and alas here we are now.
absolutely,, and again its the old old situation upon us yet again ,
[quote][p][bold]carltondry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]noddy57[/bold] wrote: l have deliberately overlooked the posts because l want to state my case without any other distraction,first of all this result tonight at home to Bournemouth is unacceptable,l said recently that we had to win every home game and pick up a point away from home to mix it with the big hitters,,well l,m afraid its goodnight Vienna in more ways than one,we are on the slide and l blame the players for not being up for the fight and l also blame Gary Bowyer for not demanding effort and its that simple ,Gary Aquired these players and they are simply not good enough,we have to put in place a proven manager for next season and back him with big money if the Venky,s want success, if not then the game really is up for everyone concerned with Blackburn Rovers,[/p][/quote]Spot on Noddy, if the brief to GB was to create a mid table championship club then that's exactly what he's achieved . If you add in a bit of luck and no injuries there's an outside chance of the play off's. Promotion, they've not invented those drugs yet ! It never ceases to amaze me how owners appoint managers with no experience ( Rovers are not alone here ) and expect them to be successful, utter madness and how many times has it actually worked consistently barring a freak one off lucky season. I remember the quote uttered at the start of this fiasco "Champions League in 4 years " knew back then if you hear such a stupid comment then its only going to go the other way and alas here we are now.[/p][/quote]absolutely,, and again its the old old situation upon us yet again , noddy57
  • Score: 0

12:08pm Thu 13 Mar 14

noddy57 says...

bring back the good old days wrote:
noddy57 wrote:
l have deliberately overlooked the posts because l want to state my case without any other distraction,first of all this result tonight at home to Bournemouth is unacceptable,l said recently that we had to win every home game and pick up a point away from home to mix it with the big hitters,,well l,m afraid its goodnight Vienna in more ways than one,we are on the slide and l blame the players for not being up for the fight and l also blame Gary Bowyer for not demanding effort and its that simple ,Gary Aquired these players and they are simply not good enough,we have to put in place a proven manager for next season and back him with big money if the Venky,s want success, if not then the game really is up for everyone concerned with Blackburn Rovers,
Noddy, I admire your restraint in using the word 'unacceptable', you being like myself not being prone to irrational outbursts!
But as a poster above said 'Millwall last year' have we REALLY moved on?

You also like myself can see that this marks the decline in GB's tenure, that is if the owners intent is really to make a fist of it (next season that is).

Its Garys team now, and they are clearly found wanting, in respect of making a challenge.

I fully respect his comments about giving managers time, but a some point hard decisions have to be made, upon assessing progress made, or in this case not.

I believe GB has gone as far as his abilities allow, and sadly I have to say that I just do not see the sort of attributes coming forth that mark him out as a future success.
It may well be the effort made in getting this far, not helped by the shambles surrounding his tenure, and e has simply drained himself, and this is reflected by his playing staffs performances.
If so it is best to be realistic and recognise it for what it is.
The really sad part is it would mean GB leaving the club, as I could not see any way he would step back into his od job.

Its just a case now of the inevitable broadcast from DS defending his manager in time of turmoil.
yes l,m waiting for that statement to appear too, must admit D S would never have been my choice for such a position but like many Rovers fans we have had to grin and bear it and like l said to an earlier poster we are back to the old old problem of where do we go from here ?,
[quote][p][bold]bring back the good old days[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]noddy57[/bold] wrote: l have deliberately overlooked the posts because l want to state my case without any other distraction,first of all this result tonight at home to Bournemouth is unacceptable,l said recently that we had to win every home game and pick up a point away from home to mix it with the big hitters,,well l,m afraid its goodnight Vienna in more ways than one,we are on the slide and l blame the players for not being up for the fight and l also blame Gary Bowyer for not demanding effort and its that simple ,Gary Aquired these players and they are simply not good enough,we have to put in place a proven manager for next season and back him with big money if the Venky,s want success, if not then the game really is up for everyone concerned with Blackburn Rovers,[/p][/quote]Noddy, I admire your restraint in using the word 'unacceptable', you being like myself not being prone to irrational outbursts! But as a poster above said 'Millwall last year' have we REALLY moved on? You also like myself can see that this marks the decline in GB's tenure, that is if the owners intent is really to make a fist of it (next season that is). Its Garys team now, and they are clearly found wanting, in respect of making a challenge. I fully respect his comments about giving managers time, but a some point hard decisions have to be made, upon assessing progress made, or in this case not. I believe GB has gone as far as his abilities allow, and sadly I have to say that I just do not see the sort of attributes coming forth that mark him out as a future success. It may well be the effort made in getting this far, not helped by the shambles surrounding his tenure, and e has simply drained himself, and this is reflected by his playing staffs performances. If so it is best to be realistic and recognise it for what it is. The really sad part is it would mean GB leaving the club, as I could not see any way he would step back into his od job. Its just a case now of the inevitable broadcast from DS defending his manager in time of turmoil.[/p][/quote]yes l,m waiting for that statement to appear too, must admit D S would never have been my choice for such a position but like many Rovers fans we have had to grin and bear it and like l said to an earlier poster we are back to the old old problem of where do we go from here ?, noddy57
  • Score: 0

12:16pm Thu 13 Mar 14

tall in the saddle says...

TurfMoorTom wrote:
owd nick wrote:
vintageclaret wrote:
I warned you yesterday to beware of the Eddie Howe factor wanting to help his old club.

TO ALL THOSE MALICIOUS POSTERS who have expressed their disgusting comments on BFC blog about Ings injury: CONGRATULATIONS you have shown just how low scum can sink not rise above. I hope both he and Hanley find they are just niggles and can soon return to the fray Ings to resume the promotion push and Hanley to restore pride to BRFC - that's what true supporters wish, there again the low IQs do not really count as supporters
Fair comment.

No-one should wish injury on rivals players whatever the feelings between the fans but I must admit to a wry smile when I heard because you have been so lucky with injuries this season, or the lack of them.

Hopefully the lad will be OK.
But I don't think anyone has wished injury on anyone, just merely surprise that Dyche's 100% lifestyle, dietary and training philosophy has allowed for one injury in this competitive contact sport. Really quite unfortunate.
Do you know Ings is injured for Saturday?
I forecast a long time ago that Burnley would finish second and Blackburn 12th in the league. However, last night’s result at Ewood has caused me to revise my forecast and I now think Rovers will finish 14th – with a good bit of luck. They have obviously been punching above their weight thanks to great management from GB (I don’t know how he’s kept them up there in 12th) and have been lucky that Jordan Rhodes has not got injured. Yes they’ve been lucky up to now, but the bubble has burst. Burnley on the other hand have had injuries to key players – Marney, Mee etc.
[quote][p][bold]TurfMoorTom[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vintageclaret[/bold] wrote: I warned you yesterday to beware of the Eddie Howe factor wanting to help his old club. TO ALL THOSE MALICIOUS POSTERS who have expressed their disgusting comments on BFC blog about Ings injury: CONGRATULATIONS you have shown just how low scum can sink not rise above. I hope both he and Hanley find they are just niggles and can soon return to the fray Ings to resume the promotion push and Hanley to restore pride to BRFC - that's what true supporters wish, there again the low IQs do not really count as supporters[/p][/quote]Fair comment. No-one should wish injury on rivals players whatever the feelings between the fans but I must admit to a wry smile when I heard because you have been so lucky with injuries this season, or the lack of them. Hopefully the lad will be OK.[/p][/quote]But I don't think anyone has wished injury on anyone, just merely surprise that Dyche's 100% lifestyle, dietary and training philosophy has allowed for one injury in this competitive contact sport. Really quite unfortunate.[/p][/quote]Do you know Ings is injured for Saturday? I forecast a long time ago that Burnley would finish second and Blackburn 12th in the league. However, last night’s result at Ewood has caused me to revise my forecast and I now think Rovers will finish 14th – with a good bit of luck. They have obviously been punching above their weight thanks to great management from GB (I don’t know how he’s kept them up there in 12th) and have been lucky that Jordan Rhodes has not got injured. Yes they’ve been lucky up to now, but the bubble has burst. Burnley on the other hand have had injuries to key players – Marney, Mee etc. tall in the saddle
  • Score: 0

12:30pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Is Eckersley playing? says...

Just back off my hols. Before I went the manager was asking for consistency. He's got it. They have lost three on the trot. Venky lovers ask yourself this question. How many matches have you enjoyed this season? Then decide if you want the same again next season....and the season after.... But then again, I'm negative, arent I? Don't know what I'm talking about, sitting in my armchair. Tell you what, I enjoyed my holiday, some of it provided by what I woud have given to the Venkys......
Just back off my hols. Before I went the manager was asking for consistency. He's got it. They have lost three on the trot. Venky lovers ask yourself this question. How many matches have you enjoyed this season? Then decide if you want the same again next season....and the season after.... But then again, I'm negative, arent I? Don't know what I'm talking about, sitting in my armchair. Tell you what, I enjoyed my holiday, some of it provided by what I woud have given to the Venkys...... Is Eckersley playing?
  • Score: 1

12:52pm Thu 13 Mar 14

thelincolnshirepoacher says...

No more excuses, so many matches thrown away, for all Bowyer's talk we are just average at best, clueless at worst.

Massive clear out needed and soon, I think GB has done all he can and it's time for a change, look at Wigan below us for ages but now powering on because of a change of management.
No more excuses, so many matches thrown away, for all Bowyer's talk we are just average at best, clueless at worst. Massive clear out needed and soon, I think GB has done all he can and it's time for a change, look at Wigan below us for ages but now powering on because of a change of management. thelincolnshirepoacher
  • Score: 1

1:04pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Wild Rover says...

Super_Clarets wrote:
Rumour's circulating on twitter that Venky's are mulling over the decision to remove Gary Bowyer from his position and install a new managerial dream team of Colin Hendry as head coach with soon to return Shebby Singh as Director of Football.
No doubt you started them!
Twit
[quote][p][bold]Super_Clarets[/bold] wrote: Rumour's circulating on twitter that Venky's are mulling over the decision to remove Gary Bowyer from his position and install a new managerial dream team of Colin Hendry as head coach with soon to return Shebby Singh as Director of Football.[/p][/quote]No doubt you started them! Twit Wild Rover
  • Score: 1

1:29pm Thu 13 Mar 14

andy1 says...

Bowyer out bring back Steve.
Bowyer out bring back Steve. andy1
  • Score: -1

1:32pm Thu 13 Mar 14

PiemanDave says...

Sadly a lot of what has been said on here is true
Bowyer has done a good job in stabilising the club he has overseen a massive reduction in the wage bill, and raised a few quid too. BUT this has been done at the expense of team development.
Cast off's and loanees are all he has been allowed to bring in, and whilst a few of these have been moderately successful (Cairney & Gestede maybe) the majority are no better than we had and in some cases quite a bit worse, but you cant make a team of silk purses out of a 11 sows ears.
Should he be replaced?
YES - But in May.
To progress the team we need an experienced Championship bxxxxxrd not a nice guy, the players dont need to like him just respect him & they need to know that if they serve up rubbish like last night then they are out.

PLEASE
Start looking now, get someone in place to take over 4th of May after last game - No we wont be in the Play Offs, and give him carte-blanche to clear out players, there is still a lot of deadwood in the squad.
Dont dump Bowyer put him back where he was and where I suspect he would like to be, he's a good youth coach let him develop the club from there, Oh and pay him handsonmely for doing it.
Sadly a lot of what has been said on here is true Bowyer has done a good job in stabilising the club he has overseen a massive reduction in the wage bill, and raised a few quid too. BUT this has been done at the expense of team development. Cast off's and loanees are all he has been allowed to bring in, and whilst a few of these have been moderately successful (Cairney & Gestede maybe) the majority are no better than we had and in some cases quite a bit worse, but you cant make a team of silk purses out of a 11 sows ears. Should he be replaced? YES - But in May. To progress the team we need an experienced Championship bxxxxxrd not a nice guy, the players dont need to like him just respect him & they need to know that if they serve up rubbish like last night then they are out. PLEASE Start looking now, get someone in place to take over 4th of May after last game - No we wont be in the Play Offs, and give him carte-blanche to clear out players, there is still a lot of deadwood in the squad. Dont dump Bowyer put him back where he was and where I suspect he would like to be, he's a good youth coach let him develop the club from there, Oh and pay him handsonmely for doing it. PiemanDave
  • Score: 0

1:54pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Angry From Accrington says...

dis-illusioned Rover wrote:
***** PREDICTION *****

Wait for the ultimate humiliation still yet to come ....

IF and I say "IF" we become mathematically safe of relegation, plus an extra 10 points, (the way things are going at the minute, not even confident of that!!) .....

Watch the owners put the club into administration, thereby losing their debts they have amassed and wiping the slate clean !!
You could be right and it would appear that this would be an incredibly popular decision for most followers on here. It could well be the right move if you prefer watching your football on Witton Park.
[quote][p][bold]dis-illusioned Rover[/bold] wrote: ***** PREDICTION ***** Wait for the ultimate humiliation still yet to come .... IF and I say "IF" we become mathematically safe of relegation, plus an extra 10 points, (the way things are going at the minute, not even confident of that!!) ..... Watch the owners put the club into administration, thereby losing their debts they have amassed and wiping the slate clean !![/p][/quote]You could be right and it would appear that this would be an incredibly popular decision for most followers on here. It could well be the right move if you prefer watching your football on Witton Park. Angry From Accrington
  • Score: 0

2:00pm Thu 13 Mar 14

A Darener says...

I'd rather watch on Pleasington playing fields, but without the Venky's.
I'd rather watch on Pleasington playing fields, but without the Venky's. A Darener
  • Score: 1

2:05pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Rory257 says...

Steven Seagull wrote:
flagstone wrote:
that's definitely it. After defeat to our biggest rivals for decades , then probably the best case scenario we hear from managers all the time "we need to get this out of system and play the next game as quickly as we can , to get back on track" .Next game comes along quickly , play a team AT HOME that we SHOULD beat easily and what happens........ They bloody lose ....... What a load of ****
And there lies your utter delusion and total arrogance. You SHOULD beat them easily?? Bournemouth are a good side in this division on merit and you think you should be beating them simply because you're Blackburn Rovers. Well I hope tonight has given you a nasty dose of reality, you are where you are on merit not where you think you should be on past glory.
Not so. We should be beating them at home because we have the ability to play better than we did last night and we did against Bolton and the fans know it. In fact, the best we have played in the last three matches was against you lot (assuming from your vitriolic rant that you're a claret) – in form and at the top of the league – and if we’re going on merit, in my opinion we were unlucky to come out of that game without at least a point. But that’s football.

It’s nothing to do with the fact that we think we deserve more because we’re Blackburn Rovers despite opposition fans continually pedalling the ‘Rovers arrogance’ card. It’s to do with the fact that we demonstrably can play better than that apathetic shower last night. The lack of consistency is frustrating, and at the end of the day that drive and determination to succeed (as well as tactical decisions that don’t confound the entire fan-base) HAS to come from the manager. Right now it isnt doing. It’s not arrogance, it’s a fact.
[quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]flagstone[/bold] wrote: that's definitely it. After defeat to our biggest rivals for decades , then probably the best case scenario we hear from managers all the time "we need to get this out of system and play the next game as quickly as we can , to get back on track" .Next game comes along quickly , play a team AT HOME that we SHOULD beat easily and what happens........ They bloody lose ....... What a load of ****[/p][/quote]And there lies your utter delusion and total arrogance. You SHOULD beat them easily?? Bournemouth are a good side in this division on merit and you think you should be beating them simply because you're Blackburn Rovers. Well I hope tonight has given you a nasty dose of reality, you are where you are on merit not where you think you should be on past glory.[/p][/quote]Not so. We should be beating them at home because we have the ability to play better than we did last night and we did against Bolton and the fans know it. In fact, the best we have played in the last three matches was against you lot (assuming from your vitriolic rant that you're a claret) – in form and at the top of the league – and if we’re going on merit, in my opinion we were unlucky to come out of that game without at least a point. But that’s football. It’s nothing to do with the fact that we think we deserve more because we’re Blackburn Rovers despite opposition fans continually pedalling the ‘Rovers arrogance’ card. It’s to do with the fact that we demonstrably can play better than that apathetic shower last night. The lack of consistency is frustrating, and at the end of the day that drive and determination to succeed (as well as tactical decisions that don’t confound the entire fan-base) HAS to come from the manager. Right now it isnt doing. It’s not arrogance, it’s a fact. Rory257
  • Score: 0

2:36pm Thu 13 Mar 14

greenscreener says...

MattNewcastle wrote:
Who would you wish to be around first weekend at the beginning of our 2014 2015 campaign to attempt to let's not be too ambitious but to get in the top six

This then puts Bowers credentials into light.

Defiinites
Spurr
Hanley
Cairney
Lowe (Right Back only)
Conway
Evans

Possibles
Marshall

That's it for me hence the need for a tactically astute manager to sort the future direction of our club out

Shock omissions
Robinson has been ok however to slow now to get down to low shots tonight and Bolton 2 recent examples
Rhodes just to lightweight slow and cannot hold the ball up / link up with midfield
Gestede works hard but lacks skill nothing sticks when played up to him either.

The rest quite frankly are an embarrassment to be part of a squad supposedly aiming for top 6. They unfortunately are just not good enough or skilful enough. Taylor as an example seems a great lad but simply just not good eenough
Matt, personally I think that if used and supplied properly Rhodes and Gestede can do a job in this league. I also think Hanley with Kilgallon or Keane are solid enough, if they have a decent right back alongside.

So, GB has been accused of not knowing his best 11, or how to arrange them, based on what I've seen this season, not just the last 3 nightmares,

Robinson
Lowe, Kilgallon, Hanley, Spurr
Marshall, Cairney, Evans, Conway
Rhodes Gestede

That's a team that if fit, settled and organised, with Evans sitting behind Cairney, would be in the top 6 of this league.
[quote][p][bold]MattNewcastle[/bold] wrote: Who would you wish to be around first weekend at the beginning of our 2014 2015 campaign to attempt to let's not be too ambitious but to get in the top six This then puts Bowers credentials into light. Defiinites Spurr Hanley Cairney Lowe (Right Back only) Conway Evans Possibles Marshall That's it for me hence the need for a tactically astute manager to sort the future direction of our club out Shock omissions Robinson has been ok however to slow now to get down to low shots tonight and Bolton 2 recent examples Rhodes just to lightweight slow and cannot hold the ball up / link up with midfield Gestede works hard but lacks skill nothing sticks when played up to him either. The rest quite frankly are an embarrassment to be part of a squad supposedly aiming for top 6. They unfortunately are just not good enough or skilful enough. Taylor as an example seems a great lad but simply just not good eenough[/p][/quote]Matt, personally I think that if used and supplied properly Rhodes and Gestede can do a job in this league. I also think Hanley with Kilgallon or Keane are solid enough, if they have a decent right back alongside. So, GB has been accused of not knowing his best 11, or how to arrange them, based on what I've seen this season, not just the last 3 nightmares, Robinson Lowe, Kilgallon, Hanley, Spurr Marshall, Cairney, Evans, Conway Rhodes Gestede That's a team that if fit, settled and organised, with Evans sitting behind Cairney, would be in the top 6 of this league. greenscreener
  • Score: 0

2:41pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Whydidtheybanme? says...

vintageclaret wrote:
I warned you yesterday to beware of the Eddie Howe factor wanting to help his old club.

TO ALL THOSE MALICIOUS POSTERS who have expressed their disgusting comments on BFC blog about Ings injury: CONGRATULATIONS you have shown just how low scum can sink not rise above. I hope both he and Hanley find they are just niggles and can soon return to the fray Ings to resume the promotion push and Hanley to restore pride to BRFC - that's what true supporters wish, there again the low IQs do not really count as supporters
There are always idiots in both camps - just look at some of the vile stuff WLUV (aka chicken plucker / look up Blackburn and his latest incarnation Super_clarets) and his band of merry men post on here.

Personally I think there is no place for it, however just try to ignore the Trolls. They are pathetic little individuals who have achieved nothing meaningful in life and are devoid of common sense, dignity and morals.

Absolute shocker of a game last night by the way, and as has been mentioned - reminiscent of the Millwall cup game last season.

Hope both players recover ASAP.
[quote][p][bold]vintageclaret[/bold] wrote: I warned you yesterday to beware of the Eddie Howe factor wanting to help his old club. TO ALL THOSE MALICIOUS POSTERS who have expressed their disgusting comments on BFC blog about Ings injury: CONGRATULATIONS you have shown just how low scum can sink not rise above. I hope both he and Hanley find they are just niggles and can soon return to the fray Ings to resume the promotion push and Hanley to restore pride to BRFC - that's what true supporters wish, there again the low IQs do not really count as supporters[/p][/quote]There are always idiots in both camps - just look at some of the vile stuff WLUV (aka chicken plucker / look up Blackburn and his latest incarnation Super_clarets) and his band of merry men post on here. Personally I think there is no place for it, however just try to ignore the Trolls. They are pathetic little individuals who have achieved nothing meaningful in life and are devoid of common sense, dignity and morals. Absolute shocker of a game last night by the way, and as has been mentioned - reminiscent of the Millwall cup game last season. Hope both players recover ASAP. Whydidtheybanme?
  • Score: 0

2:52pm Thu 13 Mar 14

TurfMoorTom says...

greenscreener wrote:
MattNewcastle wrote:
Who would you wish to be around first weekend at the beginning of our 2014 2015 campaign to attempt to let's not be too ambitious but to get in the top six

This then puts Bowers credentials into light.

Defiinites
Spurr
Hanley
Cairney
Lowe (Right Back only)
Conway
Evans

Possibles
Marshall

That's it for me hence the need for a tactically astute manager to sort the future direction of our club out

Shock omissions
Robinson has been ok however to slow now to get down to low shots tonight and Bolton 2 recent examples
Rhodes just to lightweight slow and cannot hold the ball up / link up with midfield
Gestede works hard but lacks skill nothing sticks when played up to him either.

The rest quite frankly are an embarrassment to be part of a squad supposedly aiming for top 6. They unfortunately are just not good enough or skilful enough. Taylor as an example seems a great lad but simply just not good eenough
Matt, personally I think that if used and supplied properly Rhodes and Gestede can do a job in this league. I also think Hanley with Kilgallon or Keane are solid enough, if they have a decent right back alongside.

So, GB has been accused of not knowing his best 11, or how to arrange them, based on what I've seen this season, not just the last 3 nightmares,

Robinson
Lowe, Kilgallon, Hanley, Spurr
Marshall, Cairney, Evans, Conway
Rhodes Gestede

That's a team that if fit, settled and organised, with Evans sitting behind Cairney, would be in the top 6 of this league.
Agreed and like I said earlier don't forget King - perhaps not consistent enough though a great impact player to throw on for Conway or Marshall. Dunn's possibly got one more season in him for the odd cameo and get his coaching badges. For me just a centre half or two and some belief is all that's needed. I think it was the belief in this season at least that affected last night
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MattNewcastle[/bold] wrote: Who would you wish to be around first weekend at the beginning of our 2014 2015 campaign to attempt to let's not be too ambitious but to get in the top six This then puts Bowers credentials into light. Defiinites Spurr Hanley Cairney Lowe (Right Back only) Conway Evans Possibles Marshall That's it for me hence the need for a tactically astute manager to sort the future direction of our club out Shock omissions Robinson has been ok however to slow now to get down to low shots tonight and Bolton 2 recent examples Rhodes just to lightweight slow and cannot hold the ball up / link up with midfield Gestede works hard but lacks skill nothing sticks when played up to him either. The rest quite frankly are an embarrassment to be part of a squad supposedly aiming for top 6. They unfortunately are just not good enough or skilful enough. Taylor as an example seems a great lad but simply just not good eenough[/p][/quote]Matt, personally I think that if used and supplied properly Rhodes and Gestede can do a job in this league. I also think Hanley with Kilgallon or Keane are solid enough, if they have a decent right back alongside. So, GB has been accused of not knowing his best 11, or how to arrange them, based on what I've seen this season, not just the last 3 nightmares, Robinson Lowe, Kilgallon, Hanley, Spurr Marshall, Cairney, Evans, Conway Rhodes Gestede That's a team that if fit, settled and organised, with Evans sitting behind Cairney, would be in the top 6 of this league.[/p][/quote]Agreed and like I said earlier don't forget King - perhaps not consistent enough though a great impact player to throw on for Conway or Marshall. Dunn's possibly got one more season in him for the odd cameo and get his coaching badges. For me just a centre half or two and some belief is all that's needed. I think it was the belief in this season at least that affected last night TurfMoorTom
  • Score: 0

3:32pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Riverside 7 says...

greenscreener wrote:
MattNewcastle wrote:
Who would you wish to be around first weekend at the beginning of our 2014 2015 campaign to attempt to let's not be too ambitious but to get in the top six

This then puts Bowers credentials into light.

Defiinites
Spurr
Hanley
Cairney
Lowe (Right Back only)
Conway
Evans

Possibles
Marshall

That's it for me hence the need for a tactically astute manager to sort the future direction of our club out

Shock omissions
Robinson has been ok however to slow now to get down to low shots tonight and Bolton 2 recent examples
Rhodes just to lightweight slow and cannot hold the ball up / link up with midfield
Gestede works hard but lacks skill nothing sticks when played up to him either.

The rest quite frankly are an embarrassment to be part of a squad supposedly aiming for top 6. They unfortunately are just not good enough or skilful enough. Taylor as an example seems a great lad but simply just not good eenough
Matt, personally I think that if used and supplied properly Rhodes and Gestede can do a job in this league. I also think Hanley with Kilgallon or Keane are solid enough, if they have a decent right back alongside.

So, GB has been accused of not knowing his best 11, or how to arrange them, based on what I've seen this season, not just the last 3 nightmares,

Robinson
Lowe, Kilgallon, Hanley, Spurr
Marshall, Cairney, Evans, Conway
Rhodes Gestede

That's a team that if fit, settled and organised, with Evans sitting behind Cairney, would be in the top 6 of this league.
I think you are probably not too far off with that team selection Greenie but I believe that Gestede must be played higher up the park to challenge the opposiion's big central defenders in the air.

In recent months Bowyer has played him far too deep, and sometimes he has even been out wide.
What a waste of his heading ability.

The only problem is that Bowyer will not play Cairney in central midfield.
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MattNewcastle[/bold] wrote: Who would you wish to be around first weekend at the beginning of our 2014 2015 campaign to attempt to let's not be too ambitious but to get in the top six This then puts Bowers credentials into light. Defiinites Spurr Hanley Cairney Lowe (Right Back only) Conway Evans Possibles Marshall That's it for me hence the need for a tactically astute manager to sort the future direction of our club out Shock omissions Robinson has been ok however to slow now to get down to low shots tonight and Bolton 2 recent examples Rhodes just to lightweight slow and cannot hold the ball up / link up with midfield Gestede works hard but lacks skill nothing sticks when played up to him either. The rest quite frankly are an embarrassment to be part of a squad supposedly aiming for top 6. They unfortunately are just not good enough or skilful enough. Taylor as an example seems a great lad but simply just not good eenough[/p][/quote]Matt, personally I think that if used and supplied properly Rhodes and Gestede can do a job in this league. I also think Hanley with Kilgallon or Keane are solid enough, if they have a decent right back alongside. So, GB has been accused of not knowing his best 11, or how to arrange them, based on what I've seen this season, not just the last 3 nightmares, Robinson Lowe, Kilgallon, Hanley, Spurr Marshall, Cairney, Evans, Conway Rhodes Gestede That's a team that if fit, settled and organised, with Evans sitting behind Cairney, would be in the top 6 of this league.[/p][/quote]I think you are probably not too far off with that team selection Greenie but I believe that Gestede must be played higher up the park to challenge the opposiion's big central defenders in the air. In recent months Bowyer has played him far too deep, and sometimes he has even been out wide. What a waste of his heading ability. The only problem is that Bowyer will not play Cairney in central midfield. Riverside 7
  • Score: 0

4:04pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Burnley59/60 says...

anthony.horn wrote:
Yeah_nice_one! wrote:
i think most fans could see but wanted it to be different considering Bowyer is a likeable guy.true we have been unfortunate with injuries but some of GBs decisions have been quite honestly shocking at times and after watching his passionless post match drawl on sky after the burnley game my disappointment has turned to anger.
You had a manager who knew what he was doing, Sam Allardyce,he was clued up, and could work under the financial constraints, left after the Walker regime moved on. Yet you sacked him, amazing decision!
Yes unreal as a Claret I dont find this funny at all I want us up and The Blues wining the playoffs then we can have The Derby Where BOTH TEAMS Belong Its not GBs fault VENKYS WANT TO GET LOST BACK TO INDIA NOW.I would hate to see The Upstart no history Wigan winning the playoffs,at least rovers are like The Clarets a real club with a history,DAVE WHEELAN SELL WIGAN AND SAVE THE BLUES FROM THE PARASITES AT VENKS
[quote][p][bold]anthony.horn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Yeah_nice_one![/bold] wrote: i think most fans could see but wanted it to be different considering Bowyer is a likeable guy.true we have been unfortunate with injuries but some of GBs decisions have been quite honestly shocking at times and after watching his passionless post match drawl on sky after the burnley game my disappointment has turned to anger.[/p][/quote]You had a manager who knew what he was doing, Sam Allardyce,he was clued up, and could work under the financial constraints, left after the Walker regime moved on. Yet you sacked him, amazing decision![/p][/quote]Yes unreal as a Claret I dont find this funny at all I want us up and The Blues wining the playoffs then we can have The Derby Where BOTH TEAMS Belong Its not GBs fault VENKYS WANT TO GET LOST BACK TO INDIA NOW.I would hate to see The Upstart no history Wigan winning the playoffs,at least rovers are like The Clarets a real club with a history,DAVE WHEELAN SELL WIGAN AND SAVE THE BLUES FROM THE PARASITES AT VENKS Burnley59/60
  • Score: 5

4:19pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Bazzer says...

greenscreener wrote:
MattNewcastle wrote:
Who would you wish to be around first weekend at the beginning of our 2014 2015 campaign to attempt to let's not be too ambitious but to get in the top six

This then puts Bowers credentials into light.

Defiinites
Spurr
Hanley
Cairney
Lowe (Right Back only)
Conway
Evans

Possibles
Marshall

That's it for me hence the need for a tactically astute manager to sort the future direction of our club out

Shock omissions
Robinson has been ok however to slow now to get down to low shots tonight and Bolton 2 recent examples
Rhodes just to lightweight slow and cannot hold the ball up / link up with midfield
Gestede works hard but lacks skill nothing sticks when played up to him either.

The rest quite frankly are an embarrassment to be part of a squad supposedly aiming for top 6. They unfortunately are just not good enough or skilful enough. Taylor as an example seems a great lad but simply just not good eenough
Matt, personally I think that if used and supplied properly Rhodes and Gestede can do a job in this league. I also think Hanley with Kilgallon or Keane are solid enough, if they have a decent right back alongside.

So, GB has been accused of not knowing his best 11, or how to arrange them, based on what I've seen this season, not just the last 3 nightmares,

Robinson
Lowe, Kilgallon, Hanley, Spurr
Marshall, Cairney, Evans, Conway
Rhodes Gestede

That's a team that if fit, settled and organised, with Evans sitting behind Cairney, would be in the top 6 of this league.
That is a team that would be physically dominated. My mother in law would terrorise that midfield.
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MattNewcastle[/bold] wrote: Who would you wish to be around first weekend at the beginning of our 2014 2015 campaign to attempt to let's not be too ambitious but to get in the top six This then puts Bowers credentials into light. Defiinites Spurr Hanley Cairney Lowe (Right Back only) Conway Evans Possibles Marshall That's it for me hence the need for a tactically astute manager to sort the future direction of our club out Shock omissions Robinson has been ok however to slow now to get down to low shots tonight and Bolton 2 recent examples Rhodes just to lightweight slow and cannot hold the ball up / link up with midfield Gestede works hard but lacks skill nothing sticks when played up to him either. The rest quite frankly are an embarrassment to be part of a squad supposedly aiming for top 6. They unfortunately are just not good enough or skilful enough. Taylor as an example seems a great lad but simply just not good eenough[/p][/quote]Matt, personally I think that if used and supplied properly Rhodes and Gestede can do a job in this league. I also think Hanley with Kilgallon or Keane are solid enough, if they have a decent right back alongside. So, GB has been accused of not knowing his best 11, or how to arrange them, based on what I've seen this season, not just the last 3 nightmares, Robinson Lowe, Kilgallon, Hanley, Spurr Marshall, Cairney, Evans, Conway Rhodes Gestede That's a team that if fit, settled and organised, with Evans sitting behind Cairney, would be in the top 6 of this league.[/p][/quote]That is a team that would be physically dominated. My mother in law would terrorise that midfield. Bazzer
  • Score: 0

4:57pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Old Alzheimer says...

It's high time that the players were sent onto the pitch with the intention of winning, and not the intention of not losing !!
It's high time that the players were sent onto the pitch with the intention of winning, and not the intention of not losing !! Old Alzheimer
  • Score: 3

5:58pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Riverside 7 says...

PiemanDave wrote:
Sadly a lot of what has been said on here is true
Bowyer has done a good job in stabilising the club he has overseen a massive reduction in the wage bill, and raised a few quid too. BUT this has been done at the expense of team development.
Cast off's and loanees are all he has been allowed to bring in, and whilst a few of these have been moderately successful (Cairney & Gestede maybe) the majority are no better than we had and in some cases quite a bit worse, but you cant make a team of silk purses out of a 11 sows ears.
Should he be replaced?
YES - But in May.
To progress the team we need an experienced Championship bxxxxxrd not a nice guy, the players dont need to like him just respect him & they need to know that if they serve up rubbish like last night then they are out.

PLEASE
Start looking now, get someone in place to take over 4th of May after last game - No we wont be in the Play Offs, and give him carte-blanche to clear out players, there is still a lot of deadwood in the squad.
Dont dump Bowyer put him back where he was and where I suspect he would like to be, he's a good youth coach let him develop the club from there, Oh and pay him handsonmely for doing it.
Why wait till May to replace Bowyer.

If we do it now, then the new manager will have a dozen games to assess the squad thereby allowing him all the close season to make any new signings etc.

There is nothing to be gained by keeging him until May.
[quote][p][bold]PiemanDave[/bold] wrote: Sadly a lot of what has been said on here is true Bowyer has done a good job in stabilising the club he has overseen a massive reduction in the wage bill, and raised a few quid too. BUT this has been done at the expense of team development. Cast off's and loanees are all he has been allowed to bring in, and whilst a few of these have been moderately successful (Cairney & Gestede maybe) the majority are no better than we had and in some cases quite a bit worse, but you cant make a team of silk purses out of a 11 sows ears. Should he be replaced? YES - But in May. To progress the team we need an experienced Championship bxxxxxrd not a nice guy, the players dont need to like him just respect him & they need to know that if they serve up rubbish like last night then they are out. PLEASE Start looking now, get someone in place to take over 4th of May after last game - No we wont be in the Play Offs, and give him carte-blanche to clear out players, there is still a lot of deadwood in the squad. Dont dump Bowyer put him back where he was and where I suspect he would like to be, he's a good youth coach let him develop the club from there, Oh and pay him handsonmely for doing it.[/p][/quote]Why wait till May to replace Bowyer. If we do it now, then the new manager will have a dozen games to assess the squad thereby allowing him all the close season to make any new signings etc. There is nothing to be gained by keeging him until May. Riverside 7
  • Score: 1

5:59pm Thu 13 Mar 14

happiness says...

Old Alzheimer wrote:
It's high time that the players were sent onto the pitch with the intention of winning, and not the intention of not losing !!
Spot on!!! The one crumb of comfort is that unlike last season, there isn't the threat of relegation looming over us. Right that's all the positives out of the way. Now for the facts. The service to Rhodes all season and in particular, this last 2 months has been appalling. God knows how he has scored so many. Bowyer has been negative in his tactics all season, apart from Leeds away. Sheff Wednesday on boxing day and the Huddersfield home games, both 0-0 stand out as being the worst home games this season until last night. In both cases, there were 2 teams hoping to win but set up not to lose as a backup. Last night's tactics and performance were Bowyer's response to becoming the first Rover's manager to lose to Burnley in 3 and a half decades. And there was me, sat there, expecting an 'all guns blazing', all out effort to reclaim a tiny crumb of comfort back for the fans, not to mention our useless and fruitless effort to claim a play-off place. 1-0 was so flattering to us. Bournmouth were miles better organised, more determined for most of the game and created more chances than we did and should have won by at least 3. And in some ways I wish they had because Boring Bowyer would then have had to confront what went wrong, his own tactics and maybe his own credentials, instead of trotting out the same old hard luck story. All we ask for is a positive team strategy and hard working players. The days of Shearer, Sutton, Bellamy, Friedel, Samba etc have long gone and will probably never return, but all we ask for is hard work and a well organised, positive strategy on the pitch every game with the players at our disposal. But what we got last night after what happened on Sunday and the history that went with it, was an criminally unmotivated, negative, disorganised, shambles of a performance. Bowyer, instead of criticising the fans for booing, look in the mirror and ask yourself - am I really good enough for this job? If the answer is yes, then change your philosophy on football, get support for Rhodes before he becomes demoralised with chasing long punts and considers the first club that will make a bid for him, if he hasn't done already. Stop focussing on not losing and focus on trying to win instead. Stop trying to defend 1-0 leads and try defending in the opposition half by trying to kill games off instead. And if the answer is no, then do a Keegan and admit it instead of doing an Appleton, Berg, Kean and waiting for your pay-off. Hope it's the former but what is it they say about leopards and spots?
[quote][p][bold]Old Alzheimer[/bold] wrote: It's high time that the players were sent onto the pitch with the intention of winning, and not the intention of not losing !![/p][/quote]Spot on!!! The one crumb of comfort is that unlike last season, there isn't the threat of relegation looming over us. Right that's all the positives out of the way. Now for the facts. The service to Rhodes all season and in particular, this last 2 months has been appalling. God knows how he has scored so many. Bowyer has been negative in his tactics all season, apart from Leeds away. Sheff Wednesday on boxing day and the Huddersfield home games, both 0-0 stand out as being the worst home games this season until last night. In both cases, there were 2 teams hoping to win but set up not to lose as a backup. Last night's tactics and performance were Bowyer's response to becoming the first Rover's manager to lose to Burnley in 3 and a half decades. And there was me, sat there, expecting an 'all guns blazing', all out effort to reclaim a tiny crumb of comfort back for the fans, not to mention our useless and fruitless effort to claim a play-off place. 1-0 was so flattering to us. Bournmouth were miles better organised, more determined for most of the game and created more chances than we did and should have won by at least 3. And in some ways I wish they had because Boring Bowyer would then have had to confront what went wrong, his own tactics and maybe his own credentials, instead of trotting out the same old hard luck story. All we ask for is a positive team strategy and hard working players. The days of Shearer, Sutton, Bellamy, Friedel, Samba etc have long gone and will probably never return, but all we ask for is hard work and a well organised, positive strategy on the pitch every game with the players at our disposal. But what we got last night after what happened on Sunday and the history that went with it, was an criminally unmotivated, negative, disorganised, shambles of a performance. Bowyer, instead of criticising the fans for booing, look in the mirror and ask yourself - am I really good enough for this job? If the answer is yes, then change your philosophy on football, get support for Rhodes before he becomes demoralised with chasing long punts and considers the first club that will make a bid for him, if he hasn't done already. Stop focussing on not losing and focus on trying to win instead. Stop trying to defend 1-0 leads and try defending in the opposition half by trying to kill games off instead. And if the answer is no, then do a Keegan and admit it instead of doing an Appleton, Berg, Kean and waiting for your pay-off. Hope it's the former but what is it they say about leopards and spots? happiness
  • Score: 2

6:02pm Thu 13 Mar 14

greenscreener says...

Bazzer wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
MattNewcastle wrote:
Who would you wish to be around first weekend at the beginning of our 2014 2015 campaign to attempt to let's not be too ambitious but to get in the top six

This then puts Bowers credentials into light.

Defiinites
Spurr
Hanley
Cairney
Lowe (Right Back only)
Conway
Evans

Possibles
Marshall

That's it for me hence the need for a tactically astute manager to sort the future direction of our club out

Shock omissions
Robinson has been ok however to slow now to get down to low shots tonight and Bolton 2 recent examples
Rhodes just to lightweight slow and cannot hold the ball up / link up with midfield
Gestede works hard but lacks skill nothing sticks when played up to him either.

The rest quite frankly are an embarrassment to be part of a squad supposedly aiming for top 6. They unfortunately are just not good enough or skilful enough. Taylor as an example seems a great lad but simply just not good eenough
Matt, personally I think that if used and supplied properly Rhodes and Gestede can do a job in this league. I also think Hanley with Kilgallon or Keane are solid enough, if they have a decent right back alongside.

So, GB has been accused of not knowing his best 11, or how to arrange them, based on what I've seen this season, not just the last 3 nightmares,

Robinson
Lowe, Kilgallon, Hanley, Spurr
Marshall, Cairney, Evans, Conway
Rhodes Gestede

That's a team that if fit, settled and organised, with Evans sitting behind Cairney, would be in the top 6 of this league.
That is a team that would be physically dominated. My mother in law would terrorise that midfield.
I'm guessing your mother in law is probably called Allardyce anyway.

Big and ugly may be the way to dominate your family dining table but it's not always the way proper football works.
[quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MattNewcastle[/bold] wrote: Who would you wish to be around first weekend at the beginning of our 2014 2015 campaign to attempt to let's not be too ambitious but to get in the top six This then puts Bowers credentials into light. Defiinites Spurr Hanley Cairney Lowe (Right Back only) Conway Evans Possibles Marshall That's it for me hence the need for a tactically astute manager to sort the future direction of our club out Shock omissions Robinson has been ok however to slow now to get down to low shots tonight and Bolton 2 recent examples Rhodes just to lightweight slow and cannot hold the ball up / link up with midfield Gestede works hard but lacks skill nothing sticks when played up to him either. The rest quite frankly are an embarrassment to be part of a squad supposedly aiming for top 6. They unfortunately are just not good enough or skilful enough. Taylor as an example seems a great lad but simply just not good eenough[/p][/quote]Matt, personally I think that if used and supplied properly Rhodes and Gestede can do a job in this league. I also think Hanley with Kilgallon or Keane are solid enough, if they have a decent right back alongside. So, GB has been accused of not knowing his best 11, or how to arrange them, based on what I've seen this season, not just the last 3 nightmares, Robinson Lowe, Kilgallon, Hanley, Spurr Marshall, Cairney, Evans, Conway Rhodes Gestede That's a team that if fit, settled and organised, with Evans sitting behind Cairney, would be in the top 6 of this league.[/p][/quote]That is a team that would be physically dominated. My mother in law would terrorise that midfield.[/p][/quote]I'm guessing your mother in law is probably called Allardyce anyway. Big and ugly may be the way to dominate your family dining table but it's not always the way proper football works. greenscreener
  • Score: -2

7:09pm Thu 13 Mar 14

FilWil53 says...

anthony.horn wrote:
Yeah_nice_one! wrote:
i think most fans could see but wanted it to be different considering Bowyer is a likeable guy.true we have been unfortunate with injuries but some of GBs decisions have been quite honestly shocking at times and after watching his passionless post match drawl on sky after the burnley game my disappointment has turned to anger.
You had a manager who knew what he was doing, Sam Allardyce,he was clued up, and could work under the financial constraints, left after the Walker regime moved on. Yet you sacked him, amazing decision!
The Venky's sacked him. Not us.

I hope all those anti--Sam people were there last night and enjoyed our free flowing attacking football.
[quote][p][bold]anthony.horn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Yeah_nice_one![/bold] wrote: i think most fans could see but wanted it to be different considering Bowyer is a likeable guy.true we have been unfortunate with injuries but some of GBs decisions have been quite honestly shocking at times and after watching his passionless post match drawl on sky after the burnley game my disappointment has turned to anger.[/p][/quote]You had a manager who knew what he was doing, Sam Allardyce,he was clued up, and could work under the financial constraints, left after the Walker regime moved on. Yet you sacked him, amazing decision![/p][/quote]The Venky's sacked him. Not us. I hope all those anti--Sam people were there last night and enjoyed our free flowing attacking football. FilWil53
  • Score: 2

7:11pm Thu 13 Mar 14

tonyk74 says...

izzitbecaseeamblack wrote:
You blackburn fans are a sad , pathetic , and a disgrace.
I hope you go down ,
Remember this my 6 fingered neighbour 1 win in 35 years is nothing to shout or brag about.
[quote][p][bold]izzitbecaseeamblack[/bold] wrote: You blackburn fans are a sad , pathetic , and a disgrace. I hope you go down ,[/p][/quote]Remember this my 6 fingered neighbour 1 win in 35 years is nothing to shout or brag about. tonyk74
  • Score: 1

7:12pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Bazzer says...

greenscreener wrote:
Bazzer wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
MattNewcastle wrote:
Who would you wish to be around first weekend at the beginning of our 2014 2015 campaign to attempt to let's not be too ambitious but to get in the top six

This then puts Bowers credentials into light.

Defiinites
Spurr
Hanley
Cairney
Lowe (Right Back only)
Conway
Evans

Possibles
Marshall

That's it for me hence the need for a tactically astute manager to sort the future direction of our club out

Shock omissions
Robinson has been ok however to slow now to get down to low shots tonight and Bolton 2 recent examples
Rhodes just to lightweight slow and cannot hold the ball up / link up with midfield
Gestede works hard but lacks skill nothing sticks when played up to him either.

The rest quite frankly are an embarrassment to be part of a squad supposedly aiming for top 6. They unfortunately are just not good enough or skilful enough. Taylor as an example seems a great lad but simply just not good eenough
Matt, personally I think that if used and supplied properly Rhodes and Gestede can do a job in this league. I also think Hanley with Kilgallon or Keane are solid enough, if they have a decent right back alongside.

So, GB has been accused of not knowing his best 11, or how to arrange them, based on what I've seen this season, not just the last 3 nightmares,

Robinson
Lowe, Kilgallon, Hanley, Spurr
Marshall, Cairney, Evans, Conway
Rhodes Gestede

That's a team that if fit, settled and organised, with Evans sitting behind Cairney, would be in the top 6 of this league.
That is a team that would be physically dominated. My mother in law would terrorise that midfield.
I'm guessing your mother in law is probably called Allardyce anyway.

Big and ugly may be the way to dominate your family dining table but it's not always the way proper football works.
You have the authority to define "proper" presumably. My mother in law, for your information, is the sweetest little old lady one could wish to meet and she lays on the most wonderful Sunday lunches. She would still terrorise your woefully weak fantasy team. Having said as much, she deals quite firmly with know alls who presume to be able to select all conquering football teams safe in the knowledge they will never be tested. And think they know better than Sam Allardyce.
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MattNewcastle[/bold] wrote: Who would you wish to be around first weekend at the beginning of our 2014 2015 campaign to attempt to let's not be too ambitious but to get in the top six This then puts Bowers credentials into light. Defiinites Spurr Hanley Cairney Lowe (Right Back only) Conway Evans Possibles Marshall That's it for me hence the need for a tactically astute manager to sort the future direction of our club out Shock omissions Robinson has been ok however to slow now to get down to low shots tonight and Bolton 2 recent examples Rhodes just to lightweight slow and cannot hold the ball up / link up with midfield Gestede works hard but lacks skill nothing sticks when played up to him either. The rest quite frankly are an embarrassment to be part of a squad supposedly aiming for top 6. They unfortunately are just not good enough or skilful enough. Taylor as an example seems a great lad but simply just not good eenough[/p][/quote]Matt, personally I think that if used and supplied properly Rhodes and Gestede can do a job in this league. I also think Hanley with Kilgallon or Keane are solid enough, if they have a decent right back alongside. So, GB has been accused of not knowing his best 11, or how to arrange them, based on what I've seen this season, not just the last 3 nightmares, Robinson Lowe, Kilgallon, Hanley, Spurr Marshall, Cairney, Evans, Conway Rhodes Gestede That's a team that if fit, settled and organised, with Evans sitting behind Cairney, would be in the top 6 of this league.[/p][/quote]That is a team that would be physically dominated. My mother in law would terrorise that midfield.[/p][/quote]I'm guessing your mother in law is probably called Allardyce anyway. Big and ugly may be the way to dominate your family dining table but it's not always the way proper football works.[/p][/quote]You have the authority to define "proper" presumably. My mother in law, for your information, is the sweetest little old lady one could wish to meet and she lays on the most wonderful Sunday lunches. She would still terrorise your woefully weak fantasy team. Having said as much, she deals quite firmly with know alls who presume to be able to select all conquering football teams safe in the knowledge they will never be tested. And think they know better than Sam Allardyce. Bazzer
  • Score: 1

7:15pm Thu 13 Mar 14

FilWil53 says...

PatrickBateman2 wrote:
Everyone keeps saying that Gary Bowyer is learning on the job and he will get better. I see no evidence of this.
Bowyer should not be a allowed to 'Learn the Job' at this level. nobody should. Get as proper manager in as soon as this season ends.

He is just Steve Kean with hair. Hopeless.
[quote][p][bold]PatrickBateman2[/bold] wrote: Everyone keeps saying that Gary Bowyer is learning on the job and he will get better. I see no evidence of this.[/p][/quote]Bowyer should not be a allowed to 'Learn the Job' at this level. nobody should. Get as proper manager in as soon as this season ends. He is just Steve Kean with hair. Hopeless. FilWil53
  • Score: 2

7:49pm Thu 13 Mar 14

FilWil53 says...

Riverside 7 wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
MattNewcastle wrote:
Who would you wish to be around first weekend at the beginning of our 2014 2015 campaign to attempt to let's not be too ambitious but to get in the top six

This then puts Bowers credentials into light.

Defiinites
Spurr
Hanley
Cairney
Lowe (Right Back only)
Conway
Evans

Possibles
Marshall

That's it for me hence the need for a tactically astute manager to sort the future direction of our club out

Shock omissions
Robinson has been ok however to slow now to get down to low shots tonight and Bolton 2 recent examples
Rhodes just to lightweight slow and cannot hold the ball up / link up with midfield
Gestede works hard but lacks skill nothing sticks when played up to him either.

The rest quite frankly are an embarrassment to be part of a squad supposedly aiming for top 6. They unfortunately are just not good enough or skilful enough. Taylor as an example seems a great lad but simply just not good eenough
Matt, personally I think that if used and supplied properly Rhodes and Gestede can do a job in this league. I also think Hanley with Kilgallon or Keane are solid enough, if they have a decent right back alongside.

So, GB has been accused of not knowing his best 11, or how to arrange them, based on what I've seen this season, not just the last 3 nightmares,

Robinson
Lowe, Kilgallon, Hanley, Spurr
Marshall, Cairney, Evans, Conway
Rhodes Gestede

That's a team that if fit, settled and organised, with Evans sitting behind Cairney, would be in the top 6 of this league.
I think you are probably not too far off with that team selection Greenie but I believe that Gestede must be played higher up the park to challenge the opposiion's big central defenders in the air.

In recent months Bowyer has played him far too deep, and sometimes he has even been out wide.
What a waste of his heading ability.

The only problem is that Bowyer will not play Cairney in central midfield.
No, the 'only trouble is' Bowyer!
[quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MattNewcastle[/bold] wrote: Who would you wish to be around first weekend at the beginning of our 2014 2015 campaign to attempt to let's not be too ambitious but to get in the top six This then puts Bowers credentials into light. Defiinites Spurr Hanley Cairney Lowe (Right Back only) Conway Evans Possibles Marshall That's it for me hence the need for a tactically astute manager to sort the future direction of our club out Shock omissions Robinson has been ok however to slow now to get down to low shots tonight and Bolton 2 recent examples Rhodes just to lightweight slow and cannot hold the ball up / link up with midfield Gestede works hard but lacks skill nothing sticks when played up to him either. The rest quite frankly are an embarrassment to be part of a squad supposedly aiming for top 6. They unfortunately are just not good enough or skilful enough. Taylor as an example seems a great lad but simply just not good eenough[/p][/quote]Matt, personally I think that if used and supplied properly Rhodes and Gestede can do a job in this league. I also think Hanley with Kilgallon or Keane are solid enough, if they have a decent right back alongside. So, GB has been accused of not knowing his best 11, or how to arrange them, based on what I've seen this season, not just the last 3 nightmares, Robinson Lowe, Kilgallon, Hanley, Spurr Marshall, Cairney, Evans, Conway Rhodes Gestede That's a team that if fit, settled and organised, with Evans sitting behind Cairney, would be in the top 6 of this league.[/p][/quote]I think you are probably not too far off with that team selection Greenie but I believe that Gestede must be played higher up the park to challenge the opposiion's big central defenders in the air. In recent months Bowyer has played him far too deep, and sometimes he has even been out wide. What a waste of his heading ability. The only problem is that Bowyer will not play Cairney in central midfield.[/p][/quote]No, the 'only trouble is' Bowyer! FilWil53
  • Score: 1

8:59pm Thu 13 Mar 14

A Rover 45 years and over says...

Will try and make some postives out of tis situation if it is at all possible. I have moaned as much as anyone about GB's style of play and tactics but even after 3 defeats on the trot I am finding it hard to kick the man when he is down. Therefore it is ime for GB to take a hard long look at himself in the mirror and ask some serious questions whether he as got things right this season in order to effect a reasonabe play off push and be honest with him self and if his answer is "no" like the rest of us think and the league table suggests, then he is in a good postion to do something about it. The play offs have gone now leaving him with 12 games to experiment and develop a winning formula with a different philosophy and stratergy that he has been using to date and try and finish the season with a bang ready for a sprint start next season. If he is honest with the players and tells them what he is trying to do and that they will be playing for there places in next seasons promotion push, keep them on board and win some games towards the end of the season the fans will then see that he is learning and going in the right direction.
He needs to throw his ultra cautious hat away and develop a stratergy to get on the front more and and get at teams more often. He needs to solve the creative mid field problem when Cairney or Dunn are not availabe and keep Cairney in the middle where he is most effective like every body in football keeps saying. Myself I would try Conway as an inside forward whilst Cairney is out as he is a bit similar to Dunn in stature has good vision and pick out a clever pass etc It would also give an opportunity to the boy from Accy Stanley to have a run out. This would also be a good time to blood one or two oher youngsters especially a centre back for cover purposes initially. If Craig Short and Colin Henry cannot develop a good youngster between them well it is time to give up. If GB doesn't take the opportunity to change course over the next 12 games I feel it could eventually lead to him loosing his job. At the end of the day we all wan't a succesful manager therefore it is all down to you GB.
Will try and make some postives out of tis situation if it is at all possible. I have moaned as much as anyone about GB's style of play and tactics but even after 3 defeats on the trot I am finding it hard to kick the man when he is down. Therefore it is ime for GB to take a hard long look at himself in the mirror and ask some serious questions whether he as got things right this season in order to effect a reasonabe play off push and be honest with him self and if his answer is "no" like the rest of us think and the league table suggests, then he is in a good postion to do something about it. The play offs have gone now leaving him with 12 games to experiment and develop a winning formula with a different philosophy and stratergy that he has been using to date and try and finish the season with a bang ready for a sprint start next season. If he is honest with the players and tells them what he is trying to do and that they will be playing for there places in next seasons promotion push, keep them on board and win some games towards the end of the season the fans will then see that he is learning and going in the right direction. He needs to throw his ultra cautious hat away and develop a stratergy to get on the front more and and get at teams more often. He needs to solve the creative mid field problem when Cairney or Dunn are not availabe and keep Cairney in the middle where he is most effective like every body in football keeps saying. Myself I would try Conway as an inside forward whilst Cairney is out as he is a bit similar to Dunn in stature has good vision and pick out a clever pass etc It would also give an opportunity to the boy from Accy Stanley to have a run out. This would also be a good time to blood one or two oher youngsters especially a centre back for cover purposes initially. If Craig Short and Colin Henry cannot develop a good youngster between them well it is time to give up. If GB doesn't take the opportunity to change course over the next 12 games I feel it could eventually lead to him loosing his job. At the end of the day we all wan't a succesful manager therefore it is all down to you GB. A Rover 45 years and over
  • Score: 2

9:35pm Thu 13 Mar 14

George X says...

We should have stuck with Steve kean, i have a feeling things were going to come right , i bet he's laughing his socks of at our woeful appointments since !!!
We should have stuck with Steve kean, i have a feeling things were going to come right , i bet he's laughing his socks of at our woeful appointments since !!! George X
  • Score: -2

9:42pm Thu 13 Mar 14

greenscreener says...

Bazzer wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
Bazzer wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
MattNewcastle wrote:
Who would you wish to be around first weekend at the beginning of our 2014 2015 campaign to attempt to let's not be too ambitious but to get in the top six

This then puts Bowers credentials into light.

Defiinites
Spurr
Hanley
Cairney
Lowe (Right Back only)
Conway
Evans

Possibles
Marshall

That's it for me hence the need for a tactically astute manager to sort the future direction of our club out

Shock omissions
Robinson has been ok however to slow now to get down to low shots tonight and Bolton 2 recent examples
Rhodes just to lightweight slow and cannot hold the ball up / link up with midfield
Gestede works hard but lacks skill nothing sticks when played up to him either.

The rest quite frankly are an embarrassment to be part of a squad supposedly aiming for top 6. They unfortunately are just not good enough or skilful enough. Taylor as an example seems a great lad but simply just not good eenough
Matt, personally I think that if used and supplied properly Rhodes and Gestede can do a job in this league. I also think Hanley with Kilgallon or Keane are solid enough, if they have a decent right back alongside.

So, GB has been accused of not knowing his best 11, or how to arrange them, based on what I've seen this season, not just the last 3 nightmares,

Robinson
Lowe, Kilgallon, Hanley, Spurr
Marshall, Cairney, Evans, Conway
Rhodes Gestede

That's a team that if fit, settled and organised, with Evans sitting behind Cairney, would be in the top 6 of this league.
That is a team that would be physically dominated. My mother in law would terrorise that midfield.
I'm guessing your mother in law is probably called Allardyce anyway.

Big and ugly may be the way to dominate your family dining table but it's not always the way proper football works.
You have the authority to define "proper" presumably. My mother in law, for your information, is the sweetest little old lady one could wish to meet and she lays on the most wonderful Sunday lunches. She would still terrorise your woefully weak fantasy team. Having said as much, she deals quite firmly with know alls who presume to be able to select all conquering football teams safe in the knowledge they will never be tested. And think they know better than Sam Allardyce.
Oh dear, touched a nerve there, sorry, didn't realise what a sensitive little soul you were. Still I hope you feel better after that little rant.

Just remember, I was expressing an opinion, you introduced the sarcasm, if you can't take it.........
[quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MattNewcastle[/bold] wrote: Who would you wish to be around first weekend at the beginning of our 2014 2015 campaign to attempt to let's not be too ambitious but to get in the top six This then puts Bowers credentials into light. Defiinites Spurr Hanley Cairney Lowe (Right Back only) Conway Evans Possibles Marshall That's it for me hence the need for a tactically astute manager to sort the future direction of our club out Shock omissions Robinson has been ok however to slow now to get down to low shots tonight and Bolton 2 recent examples Rhodes just to lightweight slow and cannot hold the ball up / link up with midfield Gestede works hard but lacks skill nothing sticks when played up to him either. The rest quite frankly are an embarrassment to be part of a squad supposedly aiming for top 6. They unfortunately are just not good enough or skilful enough. Taylor as an example seems a great lad but simply just not good eenough[/p][/quote]Matt, personally I think that if used and supplied properly Rhodes and Gestede can do a job in this league. I also think Hanley with Kilgallon or Keane are solid enough, if they have a decent right back alongside. So, GB has been accused of not knowing his best 11, or how to arrange them, based on what I've seen this season, not just the last 3 nightmares, Robinson Lowe, Kilgallon, Hanley, Spurr Marshall, Cairney, Evans, Conway Rhodes Gestede That's a team that if fit, settled and organised, with Evans sitting behind Cairney, would be in the top 6 of this league.[/p][/quote]That is a team that would be physically dominated. My mother in law would terrorise that midfield.[/p][/quote]I'm guessing your mother in law is probably called Allardyce anyway. Big and ugly may be the way to dominate your family dining table but it's not always the way proper football works.[/p][/quote]You have the authority to define "proper" presumably. My mother in law, for your information, is the sweetest little old lady one could wish to meet and she lays on the most wonderful Sunday lunches. She would still terrorise your woefully weak fantasy team. Having said as much, she deals quite firmly with know alls who presume to be able to select all conquering football teams safe in the knowledge they will never be tested. And think they know better than Sam Allardyce.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, touched a nerve there, sorry, didn't realise what a sensitive little soul you were. Still I hope you feel better after that little rant. Just remember, I was expressing an opinion, you introduced the sarcasm, if you can't take it......... greenscreener
  • Score: 0

9:45pm Thu 13 Mar 14

FilWil53 says...

happiness wrote:
Old Alzheimer wrote:
It's high time that the players were sent onto the pitch with the intention of winning, and not the intention of not losing !!
Spot on!!! The one crumb of comfort is that unlike last season, there isn't the threat of relegation looming over us. Right that's all the positives out of the way. Now for the facts. The service to Rhodes all season and in particular, this last 2 months has been appalling. God knows how he has scored so many. Bowyer has been negative in his tactics all season, apart from Leeds away. Sheff Wednesday on boxing day and the Huddersfield home games, both 0-0 stand out as being the worst home games this season until last night. In both cases, there were 2 teams hoping to win but set up not to lose as a backup. Last night's tactics and performance were Bowyer's response to becoming the first Rover's manager to lose to Burnley in 3 and a half decades. And there was me, sat there, expecting an 'all guns blazing', all out effort to reclaim a tiny crumb of comfort back for the fans, not to mention our useless and fruitless effort to claim a play-off place. 1-0 was so flattering to us. Bournmouth were miles better organised, more determined for most of the game and created more chances than we did and should have won by at least 3. And in some ways I wish they had because Boring Bowyer would then have had to confront what went wrong, his own tactics and maybe his own credentials, instead of trotting out the same old hard luck story. All we ask for is a positive team strategy and hard working players. The days of Shearer, Sutton, Bellamy, Friedel, Samba etc have long gone and will probably never return, but all we ask for is hard work and a well organised, positive strategy on the pitch every game with the players at our disposal. But what we got last night after what happened on Sunday and the history that went with it, was an criminally unmotivated, negative, disorganised, shambles of a performance. Bowyer, instead of criticising the fans for booing, look in the mirror and ask yourself - am I really good enough for this job? If the answer is yes, then change your philosophy on football, get support for Rhodes before he becomes demoralised with chasing long punts and considers the first club that will make a bid for him, if he hasn't done already. Stop focussing on not losing and focus on trying to win instead. Stop trying to defend 1-0 leads and try defending in the opposition half by trying to kill games off instead. And if the answer is no, then do a Keegan and admit it instead of doing an Appleton, Berg, Kean and waiting for your pay-off. Hope it's the former but what is it they say about leopards and spots?
Spot on.
[quote][p][bold]happiness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Alzheimer[/bold] wrote: It's high time that the players were sent onto the pitch with the intention of winning, and not the intention of not losing !![/p][/quote]Spot on!!! The one crumb of comfort is that unlike last season, there isn't the threat of relegation looming over us. Right that's all the positives out of the way. Now for the facts. The service to Rhodes all season and in particular, this last 2 months has been appalling. God knows how he has scored so many. Bowyer has been negative in his tactics all season, apart from Leeds away. Sheff Wednesday on boxing day and the Huddersfield home games, both 0-0 stand out as being the worst home games this season until last night. In both cases, there were 2 teams hoping to win but set up not to lose as a backup. Last night's tactics and performance were Bowyer's response to becoming the first Rover's manager to lose to Burnley in 3 and a half decades. And there was me, sat there, expecting an 'all guns blazing', all out effort to reclaim a tiny crumb of comfort back for the fans, not to mention our useless and fruitless effort to claim a play-off place. 1-0 was so flattering to us. Bournmouth were miles better organised, more determined for most of the game and created more chances than we did and should have won by at least 3. And in some ways I wish they had because Boring Bowyer would then have had to confront what went wrong, his own tactics and maybe his own credentials, instead of trotting out the same old hard luck story. All we ask for is a positive team strategy and hard working players. The days of Shearer, Sutton, Bellamy, Friedel, Samba etc have long gone and will probably never return, but all we ask for is hard work and a well organised, positive strategy on the pitch every game with the players at our disposal. But what we got last night after what happened on Sunday and the history that went with it, was an criminally unmotivated, negative, disorganised, shambles of a performance. Bowyer, instead of criticising the fans for booing, look in the mirror and ask yourself - am I really good enough for this job? If the answer is yes, then change your philosophy on football, get support for Rhodes before he becomes demoralised with chasing long punts and considers the first club that will make a bid for him, if he hasn't done already. Stop focussing on not losing and focus on trying to win instead. Stop trying to defend 1-0 leads and try defending in the opposition half by trying to kill games off instead. And if the answer is no, then do a Keegan and admit it instead of doing an Appleton, Berg, Kean and waiting for your pay-off. Hope it's the former but what is it they say about leopards and spots?[/p][/quote]Spot on. FilWil53
  • Score: 2

9:54pm Thu 13 Mar 14

FilWil53 says...

George X wrote:
We should have stuck with Steve kean, i have a feeling things were going to come right , i bet he's laughing his socks of at our woeful appointments since !!!
And where exactly is said Mr Kean at this point in time?
[quote][p][bold]George X[/bold] wrote: We should have stuck with Steve kean, i have a feeling things were going to come right , i bet he's laughing his socks of at our woeful appointments since !!![/p][/quote]And where exactly is said Mr Kean at this point in time? FilWil53
  • Score: 0

10:44pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Bazzer says...

greenscreener wrote:
Bazzer wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
Bazzer wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
MattNewcastle wrote:
Who would you wish to be around first weekend at the beginning of our 2014 2015 campaign to attempt to let's not be too ambitious but to get in the top six

This then puts Bowers credentials into light.

Defiinites
Spurr
Hanley
Cairney
Lowe (Right Back only)
Conway
Evans

Possibles
Marshall

That's it for me hence the need for a tactically astute manager to sort the future direction of our club out

Shock omissions
Robinson has been ok however to slow now to get down to low shots tonight and Bolton 2 recent examples
Rhodes just to lightweight slow and cannot hold the ball up / link up with midfield
Gestede works hard but lacks skill nothing sticks when played up to him either.

The rest quite frankly are an embarrassment to be part of a squad supposedly aiming for top 6. They unfortunately are just not good enough or skilful enough. Taylor as an example seems a great lad but simply just not good eenough
Matt, personally I think that if used and supplied properly Rhodes and Gestede can do a job in this league. I also think Hanley with Kilgallon or Keane are solid enough, if they have a decent right back alongside.

So, GB has been accused of not knowing his best 11, or how to arrange them, based on what I've seen this season, not just the last 3 nightmares,

Robinson
Lowe, Kilgallon, Hanley, Spurr
Marshall, Cairney, Evans, Conway
Rhodes Gestede

That's a team that if fit, settled and organised, with Evans sitting behind Cairney, would be in the top 6 of this league.
That is a team that would be physically dominated. My mother in law would terrorise that midfield.
I'm guessing your mother in law is probably called Allardyce anyway.

Big and ugly may be the way to dominate your family dining table but it's not always the way proper football works.
You have the authority to define "proper" presumably. My mother in law, for your information, is the sweetest little old lady one could wish to meet and she lays on the most wonderful Sunday lunches. She would still terrorise your woefully weak fantasy team. Having said as much, she deals quite firmly with know alls who presume to be able to select all conquering football teams safe in the knowledge they will never be tested. And think they know better than Sam Allardyce.
Oh dear, touched a nerve there, sorry, didn't realise what a sensitive little soul you were. Still I hope you feel better after that little rant.

Just remember, I was expressing an opinion, you introduced the sarcasm, if you can't take it.........
Rant? Your team selection exposes you as a dilettante. You cannot take criticism about your paper fantasy team yet love dishing out "advice" to those who do their best in practice. Add some steel to your team man, top six my backside,.
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MattNewcastle[/bold] wrote: Who would you wish to be around first weekend at the beginning of our 2014 2015 campaign to attempt to let's not be too ambitious but to get in the top six This then puts Bowers credentials into light. Defiinites Spurr Hanley Cairney Lowe (Right Back only) Conway Evans Possibles Marshall That's it for me hence the need for a tactically astute manager to sort the future direction of our club out Shock omissions Robinson has been ok however to slow now to get down to low shots tonight and Bolton 2 recent examples Rhodes just to lightweight slow and cannot hold the ball up / link up with midfield Gestede works hard but lacks skill nothing sticks when played up to him either. The rest quite frankly are an embarrassment to be part of a squad supposedly aiming for top 6. They unfortunately are just not good enough or skilful enough. Taylor as an example seems a great lad but simply just not good eenough[/p][/quote]Matt, personally I think that if used and supplied properly Rhodes and Gestede can do a job in this league. I also think Hanley with Kilgallon or Keane are solid enough, if they have a decent right back alongside. So, GB has been accused of not knowing his best 11, or how to arrange them, based on what I've seen this season, not just the last 3 nightmares, Robinson Lowe, Kilgallon, Hanley, Spurr Marshall, Cairney, Evans, Conway Rhodes Gestede That's a team that if fit, settled and organised, with Evans sitting behind Cairney, would be in the top 6 of this league.[/p][/quote]That is a team that would be physically dominated. My mother in law would terrorise that midfield.[/p][/quote]I'm guessing your mother in law is probably called Allardyce anyway. Big and ugly may be the way to dominate your family dining table but it's not always the way proper football works.[/p][/quote]You have the authority to define "proper" presumably. My mother in law, for your information, is the sweetest little old lady one could wish to meet and she lays on the most wonderful Sunday lunches. She would still terrorise your woefully weak fantasy team. Having said as much, she deals quite firmly with know alls who presume to be able to select all conquering football teams safe in the knowledge they will never be tested. And think they know better than Sam Allardyce.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, touched a nerve there, sorry, didn't realise what a sensitive little soul you were. Still I hope you feel better after that little rant. Just remember, I was expressing an opinion, you introduced the sarcasm, if you can't take it.........[/p][/quote]Rant? Your team selection exposes you as a dilettante. You cannot take criticism about your paper fantasy team yet love dishing out "advice" to those who do their best in practice. Add some steel to your team man, top six my backside,. Bazzer
  • Score: -1

10:48pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Angry From Accrington says...

FilWil53 wrote:
George X wrote:
We should have stuck with Steve kean, i have a feeling things were going to come right , i bet he's laughing his socks of at our woeful appointments since !!!
And where exactly is said Mr Kean at this point in time?
I am led to believe that he is trying to rebuild his life abroad having endured the barrage of verbal abuse for two years that is normally reserved for child killers and perverts. I personally hope that he manages to do so and is able to resume his career in England and flash a big middle finger at the knuckle draggers.
[quote][p][bold]FilWil53[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George X[/bold] wrote: We should have stuck with Steve kean, i have a feeling things were going to come right , i bet he's laughing his socks of at our woeful appointments since !!![/p][/quote]And where exactly is said Mr Kean at this point in time?[/p][/quote]I am led to believe that he is trying to rebuild his life abroad having endured the barrage of verbal abuse for two years that is normally reserved for child killers and perverts. I personally hope that he manages to do so and is able to resume his career in England and flash a big middle finger at the knuckle draggers. Angry From Accrington
  • Score: -2

7:24am Fri 14 Mar 14

greenscreener says...

Bazzer wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
Bazzer wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
Bazzer wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
MattNewcastle wrote:
Who would you wish to be around first weekend at the beginning of our 2014 2015 campaign to attempt to let's not be too ambitious but to get in the top six

This then puts Bowers credentials into light.

Defiinites
Spurr
Hanley
Cairney
Lowe (Right Back only)
Conway
Evans

Possibles
Marshall

That's it for me hence the need for a tactically astute manager to sort the future direction of our club out

Shock omissions
Robinson has been ok however to slow now to get down to low shots tonight and Bolton 2 recent examples
Rhodes just to lightweight slow and cannot hold the ball up / link up with midfield
Gestede works hard but lacks skill nothing sticks when played up to him either.

The rest quite frankly are an embarrassment to be part of a squad supposedly aiming for top 6. They unfortunately are just not good enough or skilful enough. Taylor as an example seems a great lad but simply just not good eenough
Matt, personally I think that if used and supplied properly Rhodes and Gestede can do a job in this league. I also think Hanley with Kilgallon or Keane are solid enough, if they have a decent right back alongside.

So, GB has been accused of not knowing his best 11, or how to arrange them, based on what I've seen this season, not just the last 3 nightmares,

Robinson
Lowe, Kilgallon, Hanley, Spurr
Marshall, Cairney, Evans, Conway
Rhodes Gestede

That's a team that if fit, settled and organised, with Evans sitting behind Cairney, would be in the top 6 of this league.
That is a team that would be physically dominated. My mother in law would terrorise that midfield.
I'm guessing your mother in law is probably called Allardyce anyway.

Big and ugly may be the way to dominate your family dining table but it's not always the way proper football works.
You have the authority to define "proper" presumably. My mother in law, for your information, is the sweetest little old lady one could wish to meet and she lays on the most wonderful Sunday lunches. She would still terrorise your woefully weak fantasy team. Having said as much, she deals quite firmly with know alls who presume to be able to select all conquering football teams safe in the knowledge they will never be tested. And think they know better than Sam Allardyce.
Oh dear, touched a nerve there, sorry, didn't realise what a sensitive little soul you were. Still I hope you feel better after that little rant.

Just remember, I was expressing an opinion, you introduced the sarcasm, if you can't take it.........
Rant? Your team selection exposes you as a dilettante. You cannot take criticism about your paper fantasy team yet love dishing out "advice" to those who do their best in practice. Add some steel to your team man, top six my backside,.
Clearly your backside is your preferred orifice, but if you want to actually have a serious discussion, the subject matter was Bowyers best eleven...

Show me the team of steel you would pick from the current squad.

Do you have an opinion of your own or do you just get your jollies criticising those who do ?
[quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MattNewcastle[/bold] wrote: Who would you wish to be around first weekend at the beginning of our 2014 2015 campaign to attempt to let's not be too ambitious but to get in the top six This then puts Bowers credentials into light. Defiinites Spurr Hanley Cairney Lowe (Right Back only) Conway Evans Possibles Marshall That's it for me hence the need for a tactically astute manager to sort the future direction of our club out Shock omissions Robinson has been ok however to slow now to get down to low shots tonight and Bolton 2 recent examples Rhodes just to lightweight slow and cannot hold the ball up / link up with midfield Gestede works hard but lacks skill nothing sticks when played up to him either. The rest quite frankly are an embarrassment to be part of a squad supposedly aiming for top 6. They unfortunately are just not good enough or skilful enough. Taylor as an example seems a great lad but simply just not good eenough[/p][/quote]Matt, personally I think that if used and supplied properly Rhodes and Gestede can do a job in this league. I also think Hanley with Kilgallon or Keane are solid enough, if they have a decent right back alongside. So, GB has been accused of not knowing his best 11, or how to arrange them, based on what I've seen this season, not just the last 3 nightmares, Robinson Lowe, Kilgallon, Hanley, Spurr Marshall, Cairney, Evans, Conway Rhodes Gestede That's a team that if fit, settled and organised, with Evans sitting behind Cairney, would be in the top 6 of this league.[/p][/quote]That is a team that would be physically dominated. My mother in law would terrorise that midfield.[/p][/quote]I'm guessing your mother in law is probably called Allardyce anyway. Big and ugly may be the way to dominate your family dining table but it's not always the way proper football works.[/p][/quote]You have the authority to define "proper" presumably. My mother in law, for your information, is the sweetest little old lady one could wish to meet and she lays on the most wonderful Sunday lunches. She would still terrorise your woefully weak fantasy team. Having said as much, she deals quite firmly with know alls who presume to be able to select all conquering football teams safe in the knowledge they will never be tested. And think they know better than Sam Allardyce.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, touched a nerve there, sorry, didn't realise what a sensitive little soul you were. Still I hope you feel better after that little rant. Just remember, I was expressing an opinion, you introduced the sarcasm, if you can't take it.........[/p][/quote]Rant? Your team selection exposes you as a dilettante. You cannot take criticism about your paper fantasy team yet love dishing out "advice" to those who do their best in practice. Add some steel to your team man, top six my backside,.[/p][/quote]Clearly your backside is your preferred orifice, but if you want to actually have a serious discussion, the subject matter was Bowyers best eleven... Show me the team of steel you would pick from the current squad. Do you have an opinion of your own or do you just get your jollies criticising those who do ? greenscreener
  • Score: 0

8:15am Fri 14 Mar 14

Harwoodstblue says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
FilWil53 wrote:
George X wrote:
We should have stuck with Steve kean, i have a feeling things were going to come right , i bet he's laughing his socks of at our woeful appointments since !!!
And where exactly is said Mr Kean at this point in time?
I am led to believe that he is trying to rebuild his life abroad having endured the barrage of verbal abuse for two years that is normally reserved for child killers and perverts. I personally hope that he manages to do so and is able to resume his career in England and flash a big middle finger at the knuckle draggers.
He was a dishonest imposter and someone the fans could see through. He brought it all on himself.
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FilWil53[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George X[/bold] wrote: We should have stuck with Steve kean, i have a feeling things were going to come right , i bet he's laughing his socks of at our woeful appointments since !!![/p][/quote]And where exactly is said Mr Kean at this point in time?[/p][/quote]I am led to believe that he is trying to rebuild his life abroad having endured the barrage of verbal abuse for two years that is normally reserved for child killers and perverts. I personally hope that he manages to do so and is able to resume his career in England and flash a big middle finger at the knuckle draggers.[/p][/quote]He was a dishonest imposter and someone the fans could see through. He brought it all on himself. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 1

8:19am Fri 14 Mar 14

A Darener says...

He is actually managing a team in the Singapore league. As of this week they are top of their league having been unbeaten. Perhaps we got him all wrong? On second thoughts
NO WE DIDN'T!
He is actually managing a team in the Singapore league. As of this week they are top of their league having been unbeaten. Perhaps we got him all wrong? On second thoughts NO WE DIDN'T! A Darener
  • Score: 0

8:24am Fri 14 Mar 14

A Darener says...

Correction! They have now dropped to third in their league. Oops! Looks like he is doing his usual thing.
Correction! They have now dropped to third in their league. Oops! Looks like he is doing his usual thing. A Darener
  • Score: 0

9:50am Fri 14 Mar 14

Bazzer says...

greenscreener wrote:
Bazzer wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
Bazzer wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
Bazzer wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
MattNewcastle wrote:
Who would you wish to be around first weekend at the beginning of our 2014 2015 campaign to attempt to let's not be too ambitious but to get in the top six

This then puts Bowers credentials into light.

Defiinites
Spurr
Hanley
Cairney
Lowe (Right Back only)
Conway
Evans

Possibles
Marshall

That's it for me hence the need for a tactically astute manager to sort the future direction of our club out

Shock omissions
Robinson has been ok however to slow now to get down to low shots tonight and Bolton 2 recent examples
Rhodes just to lightweight slow and cannot hold the ball up / link up with midfield
Gestede works hard but lacks skill nothing sticks when played up to him either.

The rest quite frankly are an embarrassment to be part of a squad supposedly aiming for top 6. They unfortunately are just not good enough or skilful enough. Taylor as an example seems a great lad but simply just not good eenough
Matt, personally I think that if used and supplied properly Rhodes and Gestede can do a job in this league. I also think Hanley with Kilgallon or Keane are solid enough, if they have a decent right back alongside.

So, GB has been accused of not knowing his best 11, or how to arrange them, based on what I've seen this season, not just the last 3 nightmares,

Robinson
Lowe, Kilgallon, Hanley, Spurr
Marshall, Cairney, Evans, Conway
Rhodes Gestede

That's a team that if fit, settled and organised, with Evans sitting behind Cairney, would be in the top 6 of this league.
That is a team that would be physically dominated. My mother in law would terrorise that midfield.
I'm guessing your mother in law is probably called Allardyce anyway.

Big and ugly may be the way to dominate your family dining table but it's not always the way proper football works.
You have the authority to define "proper" presumably. My mother in law, for your information, is the sweetest little old lady one could wish to meet and she lays on the most wonderful Sunday lunches. She would still terrorise your woefully weak fantasy team. Having said as much, she deals quite firmly with know alls who presume to be able to select all conquering football teams safe in the knowledge they will never be tested. And think they know better than Sam Allardyce.
Oh dear, touched a nerve there, sorry, didn't realise what a sensitive little soul you were. Still I hope you feel better after that little rant.

Just remember, I was expressing an opinion, you introduced the sarcasm, if you can't take it.........
Rant? Your team selection exposes you as a dilettante. You cannot take criticism about your paper fantasy team yet love dishing out "advice" to those who do their best in practice. Add some steel to your team man, top six my backside,.
Clearly your backside is your preferred orifice, but if you want to actually have a serious discussion, the subject matter was Bowyers best eleven...

Show me the team of steel you would pick from the current squad.

Do you have an opinion of your own or do you just get your jollies criticising those who do ?
We have no players of steel. That is why we are where we are and why Leicester are top. It was David Speedie who turned the 1992 play offs semi final on it head, but I suspect you would have found him ugly. You may choose to throw insults, always the response of those who do not like to have their opinions questioned. Your fantasy team would not make the top six in a million years. Inescapable fact is that by sacking "ugly" the Venkys have caused this club to nosedive and to meekly surrender our hard won Premiership status. And Burnley will take our place. Straight from my backside.
I once saw Keith Hill turn on two fans who loved to pick his team for him at Rochdale. His "rant" (Sic.) was wonderful. The only "proper" football is winning football.
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MattNewcastle[/bold] wrote: Who would you wish to be around first weekend at the beginning of our 2014 2015 campaign to attempt to let's not be too ambitious but to get in the top six This then puts Bowers credentials into light. Defiinites Spurr Hanley Cairney Lowe (Right Back only) Conway Evans Possibles Marshall That's it for me hence the need for a tactically astute manager to sort the future direction of our club out Shock omissions Robinson has been ok however to slow now to get down to low shots tonight and Bolton 2 recent examples Rhodes just to lightweight slow and cannot hold the ball up / link up with midfield Gestede works hard but lacks skill nothing sticks when played up to him either. The rest quite frankly are an embarrassment to be part of a squad supposedly aiming for top 6. They unfortunately are just not good enough or skilful enough. Taylor as an example seems a great lad but simply just not good eenough[/p][/quote]Matt, personally I think that if used and supplied properly Rhodes and Gestede can do a job in this league. I also think Hanley with Kilgallon or Keane are solid enough, if they have a decent right back alongside. So, GB has been accused of not knowing his best 11, or how to arrange them, based on what I've seen this season, not just the last 3 nightmares, Robinson Lowe, Kilgallon, Hanley, Spurr Marshall, Cairney, Evans, Conway Rhodes Gestede That's a team that if fit, settled and organised, with Evans sitting behind Cairney, would be in the top 6 of this league.[/p][/quote]That is a team that would be physically dominated. My mother in law would terrorise that midfield.[/p][/quote]I'm guessing your mother in law is probably called Allardyce anyway. Big and ugly may be the way to dominate your family dining table but it's not always the way proper football works.[/p][/quote]You have the authority to define "proper" presumably. My mother in law, for your information, is the sweetest little old lady one could wish to meet and she lays on the most wonderful Sunday lunches. She would still terrorise your woefully weak fantasy team. Having said as much, she deals quite firmly with know alls who presume to be able to select all conquering football teams safe in the knowledge they will never be tested. And think they know better than Sam Allardyce.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, touched a nerve there, sorry, didn't realise what a sensitive little soul you were. Still I hope you feel better after that little rant. Just remember, I was expressing an opinion, you introduced the sarcasm, if you can't take it.........[/p][/quote]Rant? Your team selection exposes you as a dilettante. You cannot take criticism about your paper fantasy team yet love dishing out "advice" to those who do their best in practice. Add some steel to your team man, top six my backside,.[/p][/quote]Clearly your backside is your preferred orifice, but if you want to actually have a serious discussion, the subject matter was Bowyers best eleven... Show me the team of steel you would pick from the current squad. Do you have an opinion of your own or do you just get your jollies criticising those who do ?[/p][/quote]We have no players of steel. That is why we are where we are and why Leicester are top. It was David Speedie who turned the 1992 play offs semi final on it head, but I suspect you would have found him ugly. You may choose to throw insults, always the response of those who do not like to have their opinions questioned. Your fantasy team would not make the top six in a million years. Inescapable fact is that by sacking "ugly" the Venkys have caused this club to nosedive and to meekly surrender our hard won Premiership status. And Burnley will take our place. Straight from my backside. I once saw Keith Hill turn on two fans who loved to pick his team for him at Rochdale. His "rant" (Sic.) was wonderful. The only "proper" football is winning football. Bazzer
  • Score: -1

11:57am Fri 14 Mar 14

greenscreener says...

Bazzer wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
Bazzer wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
Bazzer wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
Bazzer wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
MattNewcastle wrote:
Who would you wish to be around first weekend at the beginning of our 2014 2015 campaign to attempt to let's not be too ambitious but to get in the top six

This then puts Bowers credentials into light.

Defiinites
Spurr
Hanley
Cairney
Lowe (Right Back only)
Conway
Evans

Possibles
Marshall

That's it for me hence the need for a tactically astute manager to sort the future direction of our club out

Shock omissions
Robinson has been ok however to slow now to get down to low shots tonight and Bolton 2 recent examples
Rhodes just to lightweight slow and cannot hold the ball up / link up with midfield
Gestede works hard but lacks skill nothing sticks when played up to him either.

The rest quite frankly are an embarrassment to be part of a squad supposedly aiming for top 6. They unfortunately are just not good enough or skilful enough. Taylor as an example seems a great lad but simply just not good eenough
Matt, personally I think that if used and supplied properly Rhodes and Gestede can do a job in this league. I also think Hanley with Kilgallon or Keane are solid enough, if they have a decent right back alongside.

So, GB has been accused of not knowing his best 11, or how to arrange them, based on what I've seen this season, not just the last 3 nightmares,

Robinson
Lowe, Kilgallon, Hanley, Spurr
Marshall, Cairney, Evans, Conway
Rhodes Gestede

That's a team that if fit, settled and organised, with Evans sitting behind Cairney, would be in the top 6 of this league.
That is a team that would be physically dominated. My mother in law would terrorise that midfield.
I'm guessing your mother in law is probably called Allardyce anyway.

Big and ugly may be the way to dominate your family dining table but it's not always the way proper football works.
You have the authority to define "proper" presumably. My mother in law, for your information, is the sweetest little old lady one could wish to meet and she lays on the most wonderful Sunday lunches. She would still terrorise your woefully weak fantasy team. Having said as much, she deals quite firmly with know alls who presume to be able to select all conquering football teams safe in the knowledge they will never be tested. And think they know better than Sam Allardyce.
Oh dear, touched a nerve there, sorry, didn't realise what a sensitive little soul you were. Still I hope you feel better after that little rant.

Just remember, I was expressing an opinion, you introduced the sarcasm, if you can't take it.........
Rant? Your team selection exposes you as a dilettante. You cannot take criticism about your paper fantasy team yet love dishing out "advice" to those who do their best in practice. Add some steel to your team man, top six my backside,.
Clearly your backside is your preferred orifice, but if you want to actually have a serious discussion, the subject matter was Bowyers best eleven...

Show me the team of steel you would pick from the current squad.

Do you have an opinion of your own or do you just get your jollies criticising those who do ?
We have no players of steel. That is why we are where we are and why Leicester are top. It was David Speedie who turned the 1992 play offs semi final on it head, but I suspect you would have found him ugly. You may choose to throw insults, always the response of those who do not like to have their opinions questioned. Your fantasy team would not make the top six in a million years. Inescapable fact is that by sacking "ugly" the Venkys have caused this club to nosedive and to meekly surrender our hard won Premiership status. And Burnley will take our place. Straight from my backside.
I once saw Keith Hill turn on two fans who loved to pick his team for him at Rochdale. His "rant" (Sic.) was wonderful. The only "proper" football is winning football.
Much as I would love to have some fighters from our past, and my history includes supporting Faz through some memorable battles, that wasn't the question was it ? Neither was the damage Venkys have done to our club of what Keith hill did at Rochdale.

The last refuge of those without an answer is to change the subject.

I will give you another go at a sensible discussion, that's 'Bowyers best eleven' in case you got too distracted.

Or do I just file you alongside Dangerous Dave, all mouth and clinging to the past, nothing constructive to contribute ?
[quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MattNewcastle[/bold] wrote: Who would you wish to be around first weekend at the beginning of our 2014 2015 campaign to attempt to let's not be too ambitious but to get in the top six This then puts Bowers credentials into light. Defiinites Spurr Hanley Cairney Lowe (Right Back only) Conway Evans Possibles Marshall That's it for me hence the need for a tactically astute manager to sort the future direction of our club out Shock omissions Robinson has been ok however to slow now to get down to low shots tonight and Bolton 2 recent examples Rhodes just to lightweight slow and cannot hold the ball up / link up with midfield Gestede works hard but lacks skill nothing sticks when played up to him either. The rest quite frankly are an embarrassment to be part of a squad supposedly aiming for top 6. They unfortunately are just not good enough or skilful enough. Taylor as an example seems a great lad but simply just not good eenough[/p][/quote]Matt, personally I think that if used and supplied properly Rhodes and Gestede can do a job in this league. I also think Hanley with Kilgallon or Keane are solid enough, if they have a decent right back alongside. So, GB has been accused of not knowing his best 11, or how to arrange them, based on what I've seen this season, not just the last 3 nightmares, Robinson Lowe, Kilgallon, Hanley, Spurr Marshall, Cairney, Evans, Conway Rhodes Gestede That's a team that if fit, settled and organised, with Evans sitting behind Cairney, would be in the top 6 of this league.[/p][/quote]That is a team that would be physically dominated. My mother in law would terrorise that midfield.[/p][/quote]I'm guessing your mother in law is probably called Allardyce anyway. Big and ugly may be the way to dominate your family dining table but it's not always the way proper football works.[/p][/quote]You have the authority to define "proper" presumably. My mother in law, for your information, is the sweetest little old lady one could wish to meet and she lays on the most wonderful Sunday lunches. She would still terrorise your woefully weak fantasy team. Having said as much, she deals quite firmly with know alls who presume to be able to select all conquering football teams safe in the knowledge they will never be tested. And think they know better than Sam Allardyce.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, touched a nerve there, sorry, didn't realise what a sensitive little soul you were. Still I hope you feel better after that little rant. Just remember, I was expressing an opinion, you introduced the sarcasm, if you can't take it.........[/p][/quote]Rant? Your team selection exposes you as a dilettante. You cannot take criticism about your paper fantasy team yet love dishing out "advice" to those who do their best in practice. Add some steel to your team man, top six my backside,.[/p][/quote]Clearly your backside is your preferred orifice, but if you want to actually have a serious discussion, the subject matter was Bowyers best eleven... Show me the team of steel you would pick from the current squad. Do you have an opinion of your own or do you just get your jollies criticising those who do ?[/p][/quote]We have no players of steel. That is why we are where we are and why Leicester are top. It was David Speedie who turned the 1992 play offs semi final on it head, but I suspect you would have found him ugly. You may choose to throw insults, always the response of those who do not like to have their opinions questioned. Your fantasy team would not make the top six in a million years. Inescapable fact is that by sacking "ugly" the Venkys have caused this club to nosedive and to meekly surrender our hard won Premiership status. And Burnley will take our place. Straight from my backside. I once saw Keith Hill turn on two fans who loved to pick his team for him at Rochdale. His "rant" (Sic.) was wonderful. The only "proper" football is winning football.[/p][/quote]Much as I would love to have some fighters from our past, and my history includes supporting Faz through some memorable battles, that wasn't the question was it ? Neither was the damage Venkys have done to our club of what Keith hill did at Rochdale. The last refuge of those without an answer is to change the subject. I will give you another go at a sensible discussion, that's 'Bowyers best eleven' in case you got too distracted. Or do I just file you alongside Dangerous Dave, all mouth and clinging to the past, nothing constructive to contribute ? greenscreener
  • Score: 1

2:32pm Fri 14 Mar 14

Bazzer says...

greenscreener wrote:
Bazzer wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
Bazzer wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
Bazzer wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
Bazzer wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
MattNewcastle wrote:
Who would you wish to be around first weekend at the beginning of our 2014 2015 campaign to attempt to let's not be too ambitious but to get in the top six

This then puts Bowers credentials into light.

Defiinites
Spurr
Hanley
Cairney
Lowe (Right Back only)
Conway
Evans

Possibles
Marshall

That's it for me hence the need for a tactically astute manager to sort the future direction of our club out

Shock omissions
Robinson has been ok however to slow now to get down to low shots tonight and Bolton 2 recent examples
Rhodes just to lightweight slow and cannot hold the ball up / link up with midfield
Gestede works hard but lacks skill nothing sticks when played up to him either.

The rest quite frankly are an embarrassment to be part of a squad supposedly aiming for top 6. They unfortunately are just not good enough or skilful enough. Taylor as an example seems a great lad but simply just not good eenough
Matt, personally I think that if used and supplied properly Rhodes and Gestede can do a job in this league. I also think Hanley with Kilgallon or Keane are solid enough, if they have a decent right back alongside.

So, GB has been accused of not knowing his best 11, or how to arrange them, based on what I've seen this season, not just the last 3 nightmares,

Robinson
Lowe, Kilgallon, Hanley, Spurr
Marshall, Cairney, Evans, Conway
Rhodes Gestede

That's a team that if fit, settled and organised, with Evans sitting behind Cairney, would be in the top 6 of this league.
That is a team that would be physically dominated. My mother in law would terrorise that midfield.
I'm guessing your mother in law is probably called Allardyce anyway.

Big and ugly may be the way to dominate your family dining table but it's not always the way proper football works.
You have the authority to define "proper" presumably. My mother in law, for your information, is the sweetest little old lady one could wish to meet and she lays on the most wonderful Sunday lunches. She would still terrorise your woefully weak fantasy team. Having said as much, she deals quite firmly with know alls who presume to be able to select all conquering football teams safe in the knowledge they will never be tested. And think they know better than Sam Allardyce.
Oh dear, touched a nerve there, sorry, didn't realise what a sensitive little soul you were. Still I hope you feel better after that little rant.

Just remember, I was expressing an opinion, you introduced the sarcasm, if you can't take it.........
Rant? Your team selection exposes you as a dilettante. You cannot take criticism about your paper fantasy team yet love dishing out "advice" to those who do their best in practice. Add some steel to your team man, top six my backside,.
Clearly your backside is your preferred orifice, but if you want to actually have a serious discussion, the subject matter was Bowyers best eleven...

Show me the team of steel you would pick from the current squad.

Do you have an opinion of your own or do you just get your jollies criticising those who do ?
We have no players of steel. That is why we are where we are and why Leicester are top. It was David Speedie who turned the 1992 play offs semi final on it head, but I suspect you would have found him ugly. You may choose to throw insults, always the response of those who do not like to have their opinions questioned. Your fantasy team would not make the top six in a million years. Inescapable fact is that by sacking "ugly" the Venkys have caused this club to nosedive and to meekly surrender our hard won Premiership status. And Burnley will take our place. Straight from my backside.
I once saw Keith Hill turn on two fans who loved to pick his team for him at Rochdale. His "rant" (Sic.) was wonderful. The only "proper" football is winning football.
Much as I would love to have some fighters from our past, and my history includes supporting Faz through some memorable battles, that wasn't the question was it ? Neither was the damage Venkys have done to our club of what Keith hill did at Rochdale.

The last refuge of those without an answer is to change the subject.

I will give you another go at a sensible discussion, that's 'Bowyers best eleven' in case you got too distracted.

Or do I just file you alongside Dangerous Dave, all mouth and clinging to the past, nothing constructive to contribute ?
Your point was that your selected 11 would make the top six. In 2011-2012, you will be aware that many clubs used well over 40 players in a season. At the other end of the spectrum some clubs used as few as 28-30 players. I would imagine injuries, transfers, suspensions, morale, international call ups and tactical switches account for a lot of flux. You will no doubt recall Villa incredibly winning the League by using only 14 players all season. You do not need to be a genius to appreciate a squad wins titles and promotions. In that sense your snapshot "best 11" selection is what it is - spurious hot air.
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MattNewcastle[/bold] wrote: Who would you wish to be around first weekend at the beginning of our 2014 2015 campaign to attempt to let's not be too ambitious but to get in the top six This then puts Bowers credentials into light. Defiinites Spurr Hanley Cairney Lowe (Right Back only) Conway Evans Possibles Marshall That's it for me hence the need for a tactically astute manager to sort the future direction of our club out Shock omissions Robinson has been ok however to slow now to get down to low shots tonight and Bolton 2 recent examples Rhodes just to lightweight slow and cannot hold the ball up / link up with midfield Gestede works hard but lacks skill nothing sticks when played up to him either. The rest quite frankly are an embarrassment to be part of a squad supposedly aiming for top 6. They unfortunately are just not good enough or skilful enough. Taylor as an example seems a great lad but simply just not good eenough[/p][/quote]Matt, personally I think that if used and supplied properly Rhodes and Gestede can do a job in this league. I also think Hanley with Kilgallon or Keane are solid enough, if they have a decent right back alongside. So, GB has been accused of not knowing his best 11, or how to arrange them, based on what I've seen this season, not just the last 3 nightmares, Robinson Lowe, Kilgallon, Hanley, Spurr Marshall, Cairney, Evans, Conway Rhodes Gestede That's a team that if fit, settled and organised, with Evans sitting behind Cairney, would be in the top 6 of this league.[/p][/quote]That is a team that would be physically dominated. My mother in law would terrorise that midfield.[/p][/quote]I'm guessing your mother in law is probably called Allardyce anyway. Big and ugly may be the way to dominate your family dining table but it's not always the way proper football works.[/p][/quote]You have the authority to define "proper" presumably. My mother in law, for your information, is the sweetest little old lady one could wish to meet and she lays on the most wonderful Sunday lunches. She would still terrorise your woefully weak fantasy team. Having said as much, she deals quite firmly with know alls who presume to be able to select all conquering football teams safe in the knowledge they will never be tested. And think they know better than Sam Allardyce.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, touched a nerve there, sorry, didn't realise what a sensitive little soul you were. Still I hope you feel better after that little rant. Just remember, I was expressing an opinion, you introduced the sarcasm, if you can't take it.........[/p][/quote]Rant? Your team selection exposes you as a dilettante. You cannot take criticism about your paper fantasy team yet love dishing out "advice" to those who do their best in practice. Add some steel to your team man, top six my backside,.[/p][/quote]Clearly your backside is your preferred orifice, but if you want to actually have a serious discussion, the subject matter was Bowyers best eleven... Show me the team of steel you would pick from the current squad. Do you have an opinion of your own or do you just get your jollies criticising those who do ?[/p][/quote]We have no players of steel. That is why we are where we are and why Leicester are top. It was David Speedie who turned the 1992 play offs semi final on it head, but I suspect you would have found him ugly. You may choose to throw insults, always the response of those who do not like to have their opinions questioned. Your fantasy team would not make the top six in a million years. Inescapable fact is that by sacking "ugly" the Venkys have caused this club to nosedive and to meekly surrender our hard won Premiership status. And Burnley will take our place. Straight from my backside. I once saw Keith Hill turn on two fans who loved to pick his team for him at Rochdale. His "rant" (Sic.) was wonderful. The only "proper" football is winning football.[/p][/quote]Much as I would love to have some fighters from our past, and my history includes supporting Faz through some memorable battles, that wasn't the question was it ? Neither was the damage Venkys have done to our club of what Keith hill did at Rochdale. The last refuge of those without an answer is to change the subject. I will give you another go at a sensible discussion, that's 'Bowyers best eleven' in case you got too distracted. Or do I just file you alongside Dangerous Dave, all mouth and clinging to the past, nothing constructive to contribute ?[/p][/quote]Your point was that your selected 11 would make the top six. In 2011-2012, you will be aware that many clubs used well over 40 players in a season. At the other end of the spectrum some clubs used as few as 28-30 players. I would imagine injuries, transfers, suspensions, morale, international call ups and tactical switches account for a lot of flux. You will no doubt recall Villa incredibly winning the League by using only 14 players all season. You do not need to be a genius to appreciate a squad wins titles and promotions. In that sense your snapshot "best 11" selection is what it is - spurious hot air. Bazzer
  • Score: -1

4:02pm Fri 14 Mar 14

greenscreener says...

Bazzer wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
Bazzer wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
Bazzer wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
Bazzer wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
Bazzer wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
MattNewcastle wrote:
Who would you wish to be around first weekend at the beginning of our 2014 2015 campaign to attempt to let's not be too ambitious but to get in the top six

This then puts Bowers credentials into light.

Defiinites
Spurr
Hanley
Cairney
Lowe (Right Back only)
Conway
Evans

Possibles
Marshall

That's it for me hence the need for a tactically astute manager to sort the future direction of our club out

Shock omissions
Robinson has been ok however to slow now to get down to low shots tonight and Bolton 2 recent examples
Rhodes just to lightweight slow and cannot hold the ball up / link up with midfield
Gestede works hard but lacks skill nothing sticks when played up to him either.

The rest quite frankly are an embarrassment to be part of a squad supposedly aiming for top 6. They unfortunately are just not good enough or skilful enough. Taylor as an example seems a great lad but simply just not good eenough
Matt, personally I think that if used and supplied properly Rhodes and Gestede can do a job in this league. I also think Hanley with Kilgallon or Keane are solid enough, if they have a decent right back alongside.

So, GB has been accused of not knowing his best 11, or how to arrange them, based on what I've seen this season, not just the last 3 nightmares,

Robinson
Lowe, Kilgallon, Hanley, Spurr
Marshall, Cairney, Evans, Conway
Rhodes Gestede

That's a team that if fit, settled and organised, with Evans sitting behind Cairney, would be in the top 6 of this league.
That is a team that would be physically dominated. My mother in law would terrorise that midfield.
I'm guessing your mother in law is probably called Allardyce anyway.

Big and ugly may be the way to dominate your family dining table but it's not always the way proper football works.
You have the authority to define "proper" presumably. My mother in law, for your information, is the sweetest little old lady one could wish to meet and she lays on the most wonderful Sunday lunches. She would still terrorise your woefully weak fantasy team. Having said as much, she deals quite firmly with know alls who presume to be able to select all conquering football teams safe in the knowledge they will never be tested. And think they know better than Sam Allardyce.
Oh dear, touched a nerve there, sorry, didn't realise what a sensitive little soul you were. Still I hope you feel better after that little rant.

Just remember, I was expressing an opinion, you introduced the sarcasm, if you can't take it.........
Rant? Your team selection exposes you as a dilettante. You cannot take criticism about your paper fantasy team yet love dishing out "advice" to those who do their best in practice. Add some steel to your team man, top six my backside,.
Clearly your backside is your preferred orifice, but if you want to actually have a serious discussion, the subject matter was Bowyers best eleven...

Show me the team of steel you would pick from the current squad.

Do you have an opinion of your own or do you just get your jollies criticising those who do ?
We have no players of steel. That is why we are where we are and why Leicester are top. It was David Speedie who turned the 1992 play offs semi final on it head, but I suspect you would have found him ugly. You may choose to throw insults, always the response of those who do not like to have their opinions questioned. Your fantasy team would not make the top six in a million years. Inescapable fact is that by sacking "ugly" the Venkys have caused this club to nosedive and to meekly surrender our hard won Premiership status. And Burnley will take our place. Straight from my backside.
I once saw Keith Hill turn on two fans who loved to pick his team for him at Rochdale. His "rant" (Sic.) was wonderful. The only "proper" football is winning football.
Much as I would love to have some fighters from our past, and my history includes supporting Faz through some memorable battles, that wasn't the question was it ? Neither was the damage Venkys have done to our club of what Keith hill did at Rochdale.

The last refuge of those without an answer is to change the subject.

I will give you another go at a sensible discussion, that's 'Bowyers best eleven' in case you got too distracted.

Or do I just file you alongside Dangerous Dave, all mouth and clinging to the past, nothing constructive to contribute ?
Your point was that your selected 11 would make the top six. In 2011-2012, you will be aware that many clubs used well over 40 players in a season. At the other end of the spectrum some clubs used as few as 28-30 players. I would imagine injuries, transfers, suspensions, morale, international call ups and tactical switches account for a lot of flux. You will no doubt recall Villa incredibly winning the League by using only 14 players all season. You do not need to be a genius to appreciate a squad wins titles and promotions. In that sense your snapshot "best 11" selection is what it is - spurious hot air.
Thanks Dave.
[quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MattNewcastle[/bold] wrote: Who would you wish to be around first weekend at the beginning of our 2014 2015 campaign to attempt to let's not be too ambitious but to get in the top six This then puts Bowers credentials into light. Defiinites Spurr Hanley Cairney Lowe (Right Back only) Conway Evans Possibles Marshall That's it for me hence the need for a tactically astute manager to sort the future direction of our club out Shock omissions Robinson has been ok however to slow now to get down to low shots tonight and Bolton 2 recent examples Rhodes just to lightweight slow and cannot hold the ball up / link up with midfield Gestede works hard but lacks skill nothing sticks when played up to him either. The rest quite frankly are an embarrassment to be part of a squad supposedly aiming for top 6. They unfortunately are just not good enough or skilful enough. Taylor as an example seems a great lad but simply just not good eenough[/p][/quote]Matt, personally I think that if used and supplied properly Rhodes and Gestede can do a job in this league. I also think Hanley with Kilgallon or Keane are solid enough, if they have a decent right back alongside. So, GB has been accused of not knowing his best 11, or how to arrange them, based on what I've seen this season, not just the last 3 nightmares, Robinson Lowe, Kilgallon, Hanley, Spurr Marshall, Cairney, Evans, Conway Rhodes Gestede That's a team that if fit, settled and organised, with Evans sitting behind Cairney, would be in the top 6 of this league.[/p][/quote]That is a team that would be physically dominated. My mother in law would terrorise that midfield.[/p][/quote]I'm guessing your mother in law is probably called Allardyce anyway. Big and ugly may be the way to dominate your family dining table but it's not always the way proper football works.[/p][/quote]You have the authority to define "proper" presumably. My mother in law, for your information, is the sweetest little old lady one could wish to meet and she lays on the most wonderful Sunday lunches. She would still terrorise your woefully weak fantasy team. Having said as much, she deals quite firmly with know alls who presume to be able to select all conquering football teams safe in the knowledge they will never be tested. And think they know better than Sam Allardyce.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, touched a nerve there, sorry, didn't realise what a sensitive little soul you were. Still I hope you feel better after that little rant. Just remember, I was expressing an opinion, you introduced the sarcasm, if you can't take it.........[/p][/quote]Rant? Your team selection exposes you as a dilettante. You cannot take criticism about your paper fantasy team yet love dishing out "advice" to those who do their best in practice. Add some steel to your team man, top six my backside,.[/p][/quote]Clearly your backside is your preferred orifice, but if you want to actually have a serious discussion, the subject matter was Bowyers best eleven... Show me the team of steel you would pick from the current squad. Do you have an opinion of your own or do you just get your jollies criticising those who do ?[/p][/quote]We have no players of steel. That is why we are where we are and why Leicester are top. It was David Speedie who turned the 1992 play offs semi final on it head, but I suspect you would have found him ugly. You may choose to throw insults, always the response of those who do not like to have their opinions questioned. Your fantasy team would not make the top six in a million years. Inescapable fact is that by sacking "ugly" the Venkys have caused this club to nosedive and to meekly surrender our hard won Premiership status. And Burnley will take our place. Straight from my backside. I once saw Keith Hill turn on two fans who loved to pick his team for him at Rochdale. His "rant" (Sic.) was wonderful. The only "proper" football is winning football.[/p][/quote]Much as I would love to have some fighters from our past, and my history includes supporting Faz through some memorable battles, that wasn't the question was it ? Neither was the damage Venkys have done to our club of what Keith hill did at Rochdale. The last refuge of those without an answer is to change the subject. I will give you another go at a sensible discussion, that's 'Bowyers best eleven' in case you got too distracted. Or do I just file you alongside Dangerous Dave, all mouth and clinging to the past, nothing constructive to contribute ?[/p][/quote]Your point was that your selected 11 would make the top six. In 2011-2012, you will be aware that many clubs used well over 40 players in a season. At the other end of the spectrum some clubs used as few as 28-30 players. I would imagine injuries, transfers, suspensions, morale, international call ups and tactical switches account for a lot of flux. You will no doubt recall Villa incredibly winning the League by using only 14 players all season. You do not need to be a genius to appreciate a squad wins titles and promotions. In that sense your snapshot "best 11" selection is what it is - spurious hot air.[/p][/quote]Thanks Dave. greenscreener
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greenscreener wrote:
Bazzer wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
Bazzer wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
Bazzer wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
Bazzer wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
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MattNewcastle wrote:
Who would you wish to be around first weekend at the beginning of our 2014 2015 campaign to attempt to let's not be too ambitious but to get in the top six

This then puts Bowers credentials into light.

Defiinites
Spurr
Hanley
Cairney
Lowe (Right Back only)
Conway
Evans

Possibles
Marshall

That's it for me hence the need for a tactically astute manager to sort the future direction of our club out

Shock omissions
Robinson has been ok however to slow now to get down to low shots tonight and Bolton 2 recent examples
Rhodes just to lightweight slow and cannot hold the ball up / link up with midfield
Gestede works hard but lacks skill nothing sticks when played up to him either.

The rest quite frankly are an embarrassment to be part of a squad supposedly aiming for top 6. They unfortunately are just not good enough or skilful enough. Taylor as an example seems a great lad but simply just not good eenough
Matt, personally I think that if used and supplied properly Rhodes and Gestede can do a job in this league. I also think Hanley with Kilgallon or Keane are solid enough, if they have a decent right back alongside.

So, GB has been accused of not knowing his best 11, or how to arrange them, based on what I've seen this season, not just the last 3 nightmares,

Robinson
Lowe, Kilgallon, Hanley, Spurr
Marshall, Cairney, Evans, Conway
Rhodes Gestede

That's a team that if fit, settled and organised, with Evans sitting behind Cairney, would be in the top 6 of this league.
That is a team that would be physically dominated. My mother in law would terrorise that midfield.
I'm guessing your mother in law is probably called Allardyce anyway.

Big and ugly may be the way to dominate your family dining table but it's not always the way proper football works.
You have the authority to define "proper" presumably. My mother in law, for your information, is the sweetest little old lady one could wish to meet and she lays on the most wonderful Sunday lunches. She would still terrorise your woefully weak fantasy team. Having said as much, she deals quite firmly with know alls who presume to be able to select all conquering football teams safe in the knowledge they will never be tested. And think they know better than Sam Allardyce.
Oh dear, touched a nerve there, sorry, didn't realise what a sensitive little soul you were. Still I hope you feel better after that little rant.

Just remember, I was expressing an opinion, you introduced the sarcasm, if you can't take it.........
Rant? Your team selection exposes you as a dilettante. You cannot take criticism about your paper fantasy team yet love dishing out "advice" to those who do their best in practice. Add some steel to your team man, top six my backside,.
Clearly your backside is your preferred orifice, but if you want to actually have a serious discussion, the subject matter was Bowyers best eleven...

Show me the team of steel you would pick from the current squad.

Do you have an opinion of your own or do you just get your jollies criticising those who do ?
We have no players of steel. That is why we are where we are and why Leicester are top. It was David Speedie who turned the 1992 play offs semi final on it head, but I suspect you would have found him ugly. You may choose to throw insults, always the response of those who do not like to have their opinions questioned. Your fantasy team would not make the top six in a million years. Inescapable fact is that by sacking "ugly" the Venkys have caused this club to nosedive and to meekly surrender our hard won Premiership status. And Burnley will take our place. Straight from my backside.
I once saw Keith Hill turn on two fans who loved to pick his team for him at Rochdale. His "rant" (Sic.) was wonderful. The only "proper" football is winning football.
Much as I would love to have some fighters from our past, and my history includes supporting Faz through some memorable battles, that wasn't the question was it ? Neither was the damage Venkys have done to our club of what Keith hill did at Rochdale.

The last refuge of those without an answer is to change the subject.

I will give you another go at a sensible discussion, that's 'Bowyers best eleven' in case you got too distracted.

Or do I just file you alongside Dangerous Dave, all mouth and clinging to the past, nothing constructive to contribute ?
Your point was that your selected 11 would make the top six. In 2011-2012, you will be aware that many clubs used well over 40 players in a season. At the other end of the spectrum some clubs used as few as 28-30 players. I would imagine injuries, transfers, suspensions, morale, international call ups and tactical switches account for a lot of flux. You will no doubt recall Villa incredibly winning the League by using only 14 players all season. You do not need to be a genius to appreciate a squad wins titles and promotions. In that sense your snapshot "best 11" selection is what it is - spurious hot air.
Thanks Dave.
No problem Vinjay.
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MattNewcastle[/bold] wrote: Who would you wish to be around first weekend at the beginning of our 2014 2015 campaign to attempt to let's not be too ambitious but to get in the top six This then puts Bowers credentials into light. Defiinites Spurr Hanley Cairney Lowe (Right Back only) Conway Evans Possibles Marshall That's it for me hence the need for a tactically astute manager to sort the future direction of our club out Shock omissions Robinson has been ok however to slow now to get down to low shots tonight and Bolton 2 recent examples Rhodes just to lightweight slow and cannot hold the ball up / link up with midfield Gestede works hard but lacks skill nothing sticks when played up to him either. The rest quite frankly are an embarrassment to be part of a squad supposedly aiming for top 6. They unfortunately are just not good enough or skilful enough. Taylor as an example seems a great lad but simply just not good eenough[/p][/quote]Matt, personally I think that if used and supplied properly Rhodes and Gestede can do a job in this league. I also think Hanley with Kilgallon or Keane are solid enough, if they have a decent right back alongside. So, GB has been accused of not knowing his best 11, or how to arrange them, based on what I've seen this season, not just the last 3 nightmares, Robinson Lowe, Kilgallon, Hanley, Spurr Marshall, Cairney, Evans, Conway Rhodes Gestede That's a team that if fit, settled and organised, with Evans sitting behind Cairney, would be in the top 6 of this league.[/p][/quote]That is a team that would be physically dominated. My mother in law would terrorise that midfield.[/p][/quote]I'm guessing your mother in law is probably called Allardyce anyway. Big and ugly may be the way to dominate your family dining table but it's not always the way proper football works.[/p][/quote]You have the authority to define "proper" presumably. My mother in law, for your information, is the sweetest little old lady one could wish to meet and she lays on the most wonderful Sunday lunches. She would still terrorise your woefully weak fantasy team. Having said as much, she deals quite firmly with know alls who presume to be able to select all conquering football teams safe in the knowledge they will never be tested. And think they know better than Sam Allardyce.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, touched a nerve there, sorry, didn't realise what a sensitive little soul you were. Still I hope you feel better after that little rant. Just remember, I was expressing an opinion, you introduced the sarcasm, if you can't take it.........[/p][/quote]Rant? Your team selection exposes you as a dilettante. You cannot take criticism about your paper fantasy team yet love dishing out "advice" to those who do their best in practice. Add some steel to your team man, top six my backside,.[/p][/quote]Clearly your backside is your preferred orifice, but if you want to actually have a serious discussion, the subject matter was Bowyers best eleven... Show me the team of steel you would pick from the current squad. Do you have an opinion of your own or do you just get your jollies criticising those who do ?[/p][/quote]We have no players of steel. That is why we are where we are and why Leicester are top. It was David Speedie who turned the 1992 play offs semi final on it head, but I suspect you would have found him ugly. You may choose to throw insults, always the response of those who do not like to have their opinions questioned. Your fantasy team would not make the top six in a million years. Inescapable fact is that by sacking "ugly" the Venkys have caused this club to nosedive and to meekly surrender our hard won Premiership status. And Burnley will take our place. Straight from my backside. I once saw Keith Hill turn on two fans who loved to pick his team for him at Rochdale. His "rant" (Sic.) was wonderful. The only "proper" football is winning football.[/p][/quote]Much as I would love to have some fighters from our past, and my history includes supporting Faz through some memorable battles, that wasn't the question was it ? Neither was the damage Venkys have done to our club of what Keith hill did at Rochdale. The last refuge of those without an answer is to change the subject. I will give you another go at a sensible discussion, that's 'Bowyers best eleven' in case you got too distracted. Or do I just file you alongside Dangerous Dave, all mouth and clinging to the past, nothing constructive to contribute ?[/p][/quote]Your point was that your selected 11 would make the top six. In 2011-2012, you will be aware that many clubs used well over 40 players in a season. At the other end of the spectrum some clubs used as few as 28-30 players. I would imagine injuries, transfers, suspensions, morale, international call ups and tactical switches account for a lot of flux. You will no doubt recall Villa incredibly winning the League by using only 14 players all season. You do not need to be a genius to appreciate a squad wins titles and promotions. In that sense your snapshot "best 11" selection is what it is - spurious hot air.[/p][/quote]Thanks Dave.[/p][/quote]No problem Vinjay. Bazzer
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