Confidence high despite defeat says Rovers chief Bowyer

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BULLISH Blackburn Rovers boss Gary Bowyer insists his side can go to Leeds United on New Year’s Day full of confidence – despite seeing their longest unbeaten run of the season come to an end.

Rovers lost for the first time in five matches yesterday as they went down 3-2 at home to in-form Birmingham City.

The Ewood Park outfit controlled most of the first half but found themselves three goals down at the break due to poor defending, a wonder strike and a goalkeeping error.

A second-half double from top scorer Jordan Rhodes set up a thrilling finale which Rovers could not quite cap with an equaliser.

But the spirit they showed after the restart has left Bowyer in upbeat mood ahead of the crucial War of the Roses clash at Elland Road.

“As daft as it sounds we are going to Leeds full of confidence,” said Bowyer, whose team enjoyed 63 per cent possession and had 25 shots on goal compared to Birmingham’s 11.

“And that comes from how we played. We dominated the game from start to finish.”

The defeat to Birmingham, who are now nine matches unbeaten, means that Rovers slip to 12th in the Championship. But they remain just four points behind the play-off places – and four points off Leeds in seventh.

Bowyer added: “We’re disappointed we’ve not picked up any points today but come the turn of the year and when you get to February, that’s when you’ve really got to go on a run.

“We’re hoping to stay in and around it and get that run going because I think we’ve got the fight, we’ve got the belief and I think you’ve seen we’ve got the quality.

“We just need to cut out these gifts that we’re giving the opposition.”

Rovers will be without Jason Lowe for the first time in the league this season against Leeds on Wednesday owing to suspension.

The midfielder picked up his fifth booking of the season yesterday and will serve a one-match ban.

David Dunn (hamstring), Josh King (back) and Todd Kane (thigh) all missed out through injury.

The trio will be assessed at Brockhall today.

Winger King is expected to return against Leeds while midfielder Dunn could also feature too.

But it is unlikely that on-loan Chelsea right-back Kane will recover in time.

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12:29pm Mon 30 Dec 13

A Rover 45 years and over says...

Taylor and Gestede must start for me and we have to get at them from the start, otherwise another spanking on the cards.
Taylor and Gestede must start for me and we have to get at them from the start, otherwise another spanking on the cards. A Rover 45 years and over

12:36pm Mon 30 Dec 13

mjp 53 says...

A Rover 45 years and over wrote:
Taylor and Gestede must start for me and we have to get at them from the start, otherwise another spanking on the cards.
I think the LET must have mispelt the first word, shouldnt that be BULLS*T because if you cannot beat Birmingham at home what are your chances for the second half of the season. Roll on March should be a interesting match especially when Rhodes and Dann depart in your January fire sale.
[quote][p][bold]A Rover 45 years and over[/bold] wrote: Taylor and Gestede must start for me and we have to get at them from the start, otherwise another spanking on the cards.[/p][/quote]I think the LET must have mispelt the first word, shouldnt that be BULLS*T because if you cannot beat Birmingham at home what are your chances for the second half of the season. Roll on March should be a interesting match especially when Rhodes and Dann depart in your January fire sale. mjp 53

12:37pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Only1Garner says...

Alan Judge must start for me, what a difference he made yesterday, full of energy and that rare commodity in the Rovers team, PACE.
Alan Judge must start for me, what a difference he made yesterday, full of energy and that rare commodity in the Rovers team, PACE. Only1Garner

12:37pm Mon 30 Dec 13

A Darener says...

GB may be confident. Don't think the fans are.
GB may be confident. Don't think the fans are. A Darener

12:48pm Mon 30 Dec 13

MxMave says...

Only1Garner wrote:
Alan Judge must start for me, what a difference he made yesterday, full of energy and that rare commodity in the Rovers team, PACE.
Hes linked with a loan move to brentford...
[quote][p][bold]Only1Garner[/bold] wrote: Alan Judge must start for me, what a difference he made yesterday, full of energy and that rare commodity in the Rovers team, PACE.[/p][/quote]Hes linked with a loan move to brentford... MxMave

12:55pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Rovers 1495 says...

Could you please be quiet, Gary, you're starting to sound like Steve Kean
Could you please be quiet, Gary, you're starting to sound like Steve Kean Rovers 1495

1:06pm Mon 30 Dec 13

crankitup says...

i think i need a dose of what GB is taking...because if we can't beat teams that are below us, how the hell can we expect to beat the ones above us?

i understand the manager having to stay positive but it's wearing a bit thin with the fans, and i for one am disappointed with the 5 points dropped over Christmas, we should have been knocking on the door of the play-offs and with another win possibly taking us into the top six, but instead we're having to hope for a win just to keep up with the pack.

we've got
Leeds away, which i think we'll loose.
Doncaster at home, we should win (but you never know they're below us)
Forest away and Derby at home, possibly 1 point out of the two games

to my reckoning that's 3 points out of a possible 12 and that's not good enough to stay with the pack let alone make the play-offs.
i think i need a dose of what GB is taking...because if we can't beat teams that are below us, how the hell can we expect to beat the ones above us? i understand the manager having to stay positive but it's wearing a bit thin with the fans, and i for one am disappointed with the 5 points dropped over Christmas, we should have been knocking on the door of the play-offs and with another win possibly taking us into the top six, but instead we're having to hope for a win just to keep up with the pack. we've got Leeds away, which i think we'll loose. Doncaster at home, we should win (but you never know they're below us) Forest away and Derby at home, possibly 1 point out of the two games to my reckoning that's 3 points out of a possible 12 and that's not good enough to stay with the pack let alone make the play-offs. crankitup

1:20pm Mon 30 Dec 13

FakeVilla_MTCabinet says...

crankitup wrote:
i think i need a dose of what GB is taking...because if we can't beat teams that are below us, how the hell can we expect to beat the ones above us?

i understand the manager having to stay positive but it's wearing a bit thin with the fans, and i for one am disappointed with the 5 points dropped over Christmas, we should have been knocking on the door of the play-offs and with another win possibly taking us into the top six, but instead we're having to hope for a win just to keep up with the pack.

we've got
Leeds away, which i think we'll loose.
Doncaster at home, we should win (but you never know they're below us)
Forest away and Derby at home, possibly 1 point out of the two games

to my reckoning that's 3 points out of a possible 12 and that's not good enough to stay with the pack let alone make the play-offs.
Fair comment but Burnley couldn't beat boro or wigan or huddersfield etc etc so that blows that myth out of the water.
Anyone can beat anyone in this division and so long as we are not too far away, a good run after new year can see it all change. I also expect to see Burnley drop like a stone in the new year
[quote][p][bold]crankitup[/bold] wrote: i think i need a dose of what GB is taking...because if we can't beat teams that are below us, how the hell can we expect to beat the ones above us? i understand the manager having to stay positive but it's wearing a bit thin with the fans, and i for one am disappointed with the 5 points dropped over Christmas, we should have been knocking on the door of the play-offs and with another win possibly taking us into the top six, but instead we're having to hope for a win just to keep up with the pack. we've got Leeds away, which i think we'll loose. Doncaster at home, we should win (but you never know they're below us) Forest away and Derby at home, possibly 1 point out of the two games to my reckoning that's 3 points out of a possible 12 and that's not good enough to stay with the pack let alone make the play-offs.[/p][/quote]Fair comment but Burnley couldn't beat boro or wigan or huddersfield etc etc so that blows that myth out of the water. Anyone can beat anyone in this division and so long as we are not too far away, a good run after new year can see it all change. I also expect to see Burnley drop like a stone in the new year FakeVilla_MTCabinet

1:21pm Mon 30 Dec 13

A Rover 45 years and over says...

mjp 53 wrote:
A Rover 45 years and over wrote: Taylor and Gestede must start for me and we have to get at them from the start, otherwise another spanking on the cards.
I think the LET must have mispelt the first word, shouldnt that be BULLS*T because if you cannot beat Birmingham at home what are your chances for the second half of the season. Roll on March should be a interesting match especially when Rhodes and Dann depart in your January fire sale.
The only BULLS*T on here is people like you one good run in about 6 years and you think youare European Champions. Sad really.
[quote][p][bold]mjp 53[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Rover 45 years and over[/bold] wrote: Taylor and Gestede must start for me and we have to get at them from the start, otherwise another spanking on the cards.[/p][/quote]I think the LET must have mispelt the first word, shouldnt that be BULLS*T because if you cannot beat Birmingham at home what are your chances for the second half of the season. Roll on March should be a interesting match especially when Rhodes and Dann depart in your January fire sale.[/p][/quote]The only BULLS*T on here is people like you one good run in about 6 years and you think youare European Champions. Sad really. A Rover 45 years and over

1:39pm Mon 30 Dec 13

merlinmills says...

Negative tactics from bowler and poor mistakes. There is no need to play Williamson at home. Greeted should have been on from the start. He front keep playing Rhodes on his own. rochina is okay at 3-0 up to bring on but not needed in place of the second striker. I hope bowyer learns from the poor tactical errors and the players are up for every game from the off
Negative tactics from bowler and poor mistakes. There is no need to play Williamson at home. Greeted should have been on from the start. He front keep playing Rhodes on his own. rochina is okay at 3-0 up to bring on but not needed in place of the second striker. I hope bowyer learns from the poor tactical errors and the players are up for every game from the off merlinmills

1:47pm Mon 30 Dec 13

RobH2O says...

FakeVilla_MTCabinet wrote:
crankitup wrote:
i think i need a dose of what GB is taking...because if we can't beat teams that are below us, how the hell can we expect to beat the ones above us?

i understand the manager having to stay positive but it's wearing a bit thin with the fans, and i for one am disappointed with the 5 points dropped over Christmas, we should have been knocking on the door of the play-offs and with another win possibly taking us into the top six, but instead we're having to hope for a win just to keep up with the pack.

we've got
Leeds away, which i think we'll loose.
Doncaster at home, we should win (but you never know they're below us)
Forest away and Derby at home, possibly 1 point out of the two games

to my reckoning that's 3 points out of a possible 12 and that's not good enough to stay with the pack let alone make the play-offs.
Fair comment but Burnley couldn't beat boro or wigan or huddersfield etc etc so that blows that myth out of the water.
Anyone can beat anyone in this division and so long as we are not too far away, a good run after new year can see it all change. I also expect to see Burnley drop like a stone in the new year
That's a wish because you're a Rovers fan
[quote][p][bold]FakeVilla_MTCabinet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]crankitup[/bold] wrote: i think i need a dose of what GB is taking...because if we can't beat teams that are below us, how the hell can we expect to beat the ones above us? i understand the manager having to stay positive but it's wearing a bit thin with the fans, and i for one am disappointed with the 5 points dropped over Christmas, we should have been knocking on the door of the play-offs and with another win possibly taking us into the top six, but instead we're having to hope for a win just to keep up with the pack. we've got Leeds away, which i think we'll loose. Doncaster at home, we should win (but you never know they're below us) Forest away and Derby at home, possibly 1 point out of the two games to my reckoning that's 3 points out of a possible 12 and that's not good enough to stay with the pack let alone make the play-offs.[/p][/quote]Fair comment but Burnley couldn't beat boro or wigan or huddersfield etc etc so that blows that myth out of the water. Anyone can beat anyone in this division and so long as we are not too far away, a good run after new year can see it all change. I also expect to see Burnley drop like a stone in the new year[/p][/quote]That's a wish because you're a Rovers fan RobH2O

1:47pm Mon 30 Dec 13

RobH2O says...

FakeVilla_MTCabinet wrote:
crankitup wrote:
i think i need a dose of what GB is taking...because if we can't beat teams that are below us, how the hell can we expect to beat the ones above us?

i understand the manager having to stay positive but it's wearing a bit thin with the fans, and i for one am disappointed with the 5 points dropped over Christmas, we should have been knocking on the door of the play-offs and with another win possibly taking us into the top six, but instead we're having to hope for a win just to keep up with the pack.

we've got
Leeds away, which i think we'll loose.
Doncaster at home, we should win (but you never know they're below us)
Forest away and Derby at home, possibly 1 point out of the two games

to my reckoning that's 3 points out of a possible 12 and that's not good enough to stay with the pack let alone make the play-offs.
Fair comment but Burnley couldn't beat boro or wigan or huddersfield etc etc so that blows that myth out of the water.
Anyone can beat anyone in this division and so long as we are not too far away, a good run after new year can see it all change. I also expect to see Burnley drop like a stone in the new year
That's a wish because you're a Rovers fan
[quote][p][bold]FakeVilla_MTCabinet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]crankitup[/bold] wrote: i think i need a dose of what GB is taking...because if we can't beat teams that are below us, how the hell can we expect to beat the ones above us? i understand the manager having to stay positive but it's wearing a bit thin with the fans, and i for one am disappointed with the 5 points dropped over Christmas, we should have been knocking on the door of the play-offs and with another win possibly taking us into the top six, but instead we're having to hope for a win just to keep up with the pack. we've got Leeds away, which i think we'll loose. Doncaster at home, we should win (but you never know they're below us) Forest away and Derby at home, possibly 1 point out of the two games to my reckoning that's 3 points out of a possible 12 and that's not good enough to stay with the pack let alone make the play-offs.[/p][/quote]Fair comment but Burnley couldn't beat boro or wigan or huddersfield etc etc so that blows that myth out of the water. Anyone can beat anyone in this division and so long as we are not too far away, a good run after new year can see it all change. I also expect to see Burnley drop like a stone in the new year[/p][/quote]That's a wish because you're a Rovers fan RobH2O

1:47pm Mon 30 Dec 13

RobH2O says...

FakeVilla_MTCabinet wrote:
crankitup wrote:
i think i need a dose of what GB is taking...because if we can't beat teams that are below us, how the hell can we expect to beat the ones above us?

i understand the manager having to stay positive but it's wearing a bit thin with the fans, and i for one am disappointed with the 5 points dropped over Christmas, we should have been knocking on the door of the play-offs and with another win possibly taking us into the top six, but instead we're having to hope for a win just to keep up with the pack.

we've got
Leeds away, which i think we'll loose.
Doncaster at home, we should win (but you never know they're below us)
Forest away and Derby at home, possibly 1 point out of the two games

to my reckoning that's 3 points out of a possible 12 and that's not good enough to stay with the pack let alone make the play-offs.
Fair comment but Burnley couldn't beat boro or wigan or huddersfield etc etc so that blows that myth out of the water.
Anyone can beat anyone in this division and so long as we are not too far away, a good run after new year can see it all change. I also expect to see Burnley drop like a stone in the new year
That's a wish because you're a Rovers fan
[quote][p][bold]FakeVilla_MTCabinet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]crankitup[/bold] wrote: i think i need a dose of what GB is taking...because if we can't beat teams that are below us, how the hell can we expect to beat the ones above us? i understand the manager having to stay positive but it's wearing a bit thin with the fans, and i for one am disappointed with the 5 points dropped over Christmas, we should have been knocking on the door of the play-offs and with another win possibly taking us into the top six, but instead we're having to hope for a win just to keep up with the pack. we've got Leeds away, which i think we'll loose. Doncaster at home, we should win (but you never know they're below us) Forest away and Derby at home, possibly 1 point out of the two games to my reckoning that's 3 points out of a possible 12 and that's not good enough to stay with the pack let alone make the play-offs.[/p][/quote]Fair comment but Burnley couldn't beat boro or wigan or huddersfield etc etc so that blows that myth out of the water. Anyone can beat anyone in this division and so long as we are not too far away, a good run after new year can see it all change. I also expect to see Burnley drop like a stone in the new year[/p][/quote]That's a wish because you're a Rovers fan RobH2O

1:51pm Mon 30 Dec 13

dangerous dave says...

Rovers 1495 wrote:
Could you please be quiet, Gary, you're starting to sound like Steve Kean
Yes afraid so - with the Lt's photo of GB with his mouth wide you can imagine this garbage coming out - yes I am afraid to say it but just like Kean - so GB keep it shut and get your team of mates to performing on the field - now totally mid table and a few more results like recent ones will see us nearer the foot of the table with you still spouting rubbish!!
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
[quote][p][bold]Rovers 1495[/bold] wrote: Could you please be quiet, Gary, you're starting to sound like Steve Kean[/p][/quote]Yes afraid so - with the Lt's photo of GB with his mouth wide you can imagine this garbage coming out - yes I am afraid to say it but just like Kean - so GB keep it shut and get your team of mates to performing on the field - now totally mid table and a few more results like recent ones will see us nearer the foot of the table with you still spouting rubbish!! OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS dangerous dave

1:52pm Mon 30 Dec 13

dangerous dave says...

Rovers 1495 wrote:
Could you please be quiet, Gary, you're starting to sound like Steve Kean
Yes afraid so - with the Lt's photo of GB with his mouth wide you can imagine this garbage coming out - yes I am afraid to say it but just like Kean - so GB keep it shut and get your team of mates to performing on the field - now totally mid table and a few more results like recent ones will see us nearer the foot of the table with you still spouting rubbish!!
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS
[quote][p][bold]Rovers 1495[/bold] wrote: Could you please be quiet, Gary, you're starting to sound like Steve Kean[/p][/quote]Yes afraid so - with the Lt's photo of GB with his mouth wide you can imagine this garbage coming out - yes I am afraid to say it but just like Kean - so GB keep it shut and get your team of mates to performing on the field - now totally mid table and a few more results like recent ones will see us nearer the foot of the table with you still spouting rubbish!! OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS dangerous dave

1:53pm Mon 30 Dec 13

kfc yummy says...

FakeVilla_MTCabinet wrote:
crankitup wrote:
i think i need a dose of what GB is taking...because if we can't beat teams that are below us, how the hell can we expect to beat the ones above us?

i understand the manager having to stay positive but it's wearing a bit thin with the fans, and i for one am disappointed with the 5 points dropped over Christmas, we should have been knocking on the door of the play-offs and with another win possibly taking us into the top six, but instead we're having to hope for a win just to keep up with the pack.

we've got
Leeds away, which i think we'll loose.
Doncaster at home, we should win (but you never know they're below us)
Forest away and Derby at home, possibly 1 point out of the two games

to my reckoning that's 3 points out of a possible 12 and that's not good enough to stay with the pack let alone make the play-offs.
Fair comment but Burnley couldn't beat boro or wigan or huddersfield etc etc so that blows that myth out of the water.
Anyone can beat anyone in this division and so long as we are not too far away, a good run after new year can see it all change. I also expect to see Burnley drop like a stone in the new year
So if anyone can beat anyone ,why should Burnley drop like a stone monkey t'ts.
[quote][p][bold]FakeVilla_MTCabinet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]crankitup[/bold] wrote: i think i need a dose of what GB is taking...because if we can't beat teams that are below us, how the hell can we expect to beat the ones above us? i understand the manager having to stay positive but it's wearing a bit thin with the fans, and i for one am disappointed with the 5 points dropped over Christmas, we should have been knocking on the door of the play-offs and with another win possibly taking us into the top six, but instead we're having to hope for a win just to keep up with the pack. we've got Leeds away, which i think we'll loose. Doncaster at home, we should win (but you never know they're below us) Forest away and Derby at home, possibly 1 point out of the two games to my reckoning that's 3 points out of a possible 12 and that's not good enough to stay with the pack let alone make the play-offs.[/p][/quote]Fair comment but Burnley couldn't beat boro or wigan or huddersfield etc etc so that blows that myth out of the water. Anyone can beat anyone in this division and so long as we are not too far away, a good run after new year can see it all change. I also expect to see Burnley drop like a stone in the new year[/p][/quote]So if anyone can beat anyone ,why should Burnley drop like a stone monkey t'ts. kfc yummy

2:13pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Rovers 1495 says...

merlinmills wrote:
Negative tactics from bowler and poor mistakes. There is no need to play Williamson at home. Greeted should have been on from the start. He front keep playing Rhodes on his own. rochina is okay at 3-0 up to bring on but not needed in place of the second striker. I hope bowyer learns from the poor tactical errors and the players are up for every game from the off
MatthewCA ?
[quote][p][bold]merlinmills[/bold] wrote: Negative tactics from bowler and poor mistakes. There is no need to play Williamson at home. Greeted should have been on from the start. He front keep playing Rhodes on his own. rochina is okay at 3-0 up to bring on but not needed in place of the second striker. I hope bowyer learns from the poor tactical errors and the players are up for every game from the off[/p][/quote]MatthewCA ? Rovers 1495

2:40pm Mon 30 Dec 13

pwl says...

If we "dominated the game from start to finish" How come we were 3-0 down after 35 minutes?
If we "dominated the game from start to finish" How come we were 3-0 down after 35 minutes? pwl

2:47pm Mon 30 Dec 13

jack01 says...

Negative tactics? Did you watch the game against Birmingham?

63% possession and 25 attempts on goal.

You can accuse Bowyer of making a number of mistakes but taking a negative approach yesterday simply isn't true. If anything we were too offensive in the opening 20 minutes which enabled Birmingham to break away and get three goals with their first three attempts.

I see Bowyer is now getting criticised for playing Rochina from the start. This was after the Sheffield Wednesday game when people were booing and complaining because he only gave Rochina 20 minutes at the end.
Notice how as soon as Rochina left the pitch we got back into the game and quickly scored two goals and had Birmingham crumbling. People were clambering for Rochina to be given a chance, Bowyer obliged, and I don't think it did the team any favors whatsoever.
Negative tactics? Did you watch the game against Birmingham? 63% possession and 25 attempts on goal. You can accuse Bowyer of making a number of mistakes but taking a negative approach yesterday simply isn't true. If anything we were too offensive in the opening 20 minutes which enabled Birmingham to break away and get three goals with their first three attempts. I see Bowyer is now getting criticised for playing Rochina from the start. This was after the Sheffield Wednesday game when people were booing and complaining because he only gave Rochina 20 minutes at the end. Notice how as soon as Rochina left the pitch we got back into the game and quickly scored two goals and had Birmingham crumbling. People were clambering for Rochina to be given a chance, Bowyer obliged, and I don't think it did the team any favors whatsoever. jack01

3:01pm Mon 30 Dec 13

harwoodblue says...

Jan transfer rumours started already,

-Cairney to Leicester in early jan because they know we have to sell before we can buy him.

-Nakhi Wells to Blackburn/QPR 3m.

May as well buy some good young players now if we know we will probably get a transfer ban next season.
Jan transfer rumours started already, -Cairney to Leicester in early jan because they know we have to sell before we can buy him. -Nakhi Wells to Blackburn/QPR 3m. May as well buy some good young players now if we know we will probably get a transfer ban next season. harwoodblue

3:18pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Rover47 says...

harwoodblue wrote:
Jan transfer rumours started already,

-Cairney to Leicester in early jan because they know we have to sell before we can buy him.

-Nakhi Wells to Blackburn/QPR 3m.

May as well buy some good young players now if we know we will probably get a transfer ban next season.
Goalkeeping is becoming an increasingly worrying problem. On the evidence so far Kean and Eastwood are not long-term solutions and may be costly ‘custodians’ while they are here. The third goal against Birmingham was a frightful elementary mistake.

Another puzzling aspect is that since Vince O’Keefe and Bobby Mimms left I have not seen a goalkeeper being coached on the training ground.

Unless Robbo makes a successful comeback – and that may not just be about ability, but more about Venky’s and his salary – then it seems to me we have a big problem at No 1.

I know he’s a bit older than Robbo, but I would have thought Shay Given, financial arrangements permitting, would have made an excellent loan signing from Aston Villa for the rest of this season – and then see how we moved on from there. He was happy at Ewood and I have no doubt he would have relished the challenge of trying to help his old club to promotion.

His loan club Middlesbrough have won their last three games against Burnley, Millwall and Reading and he has kept four clean sheets in seven matches.

Now, as I say, we are in an increasingly worrying situation that might – Robbo excepted – prove difficult to solve.
[quote][p][bold]harwoodblue[/bold] wrote: Jan transfer rumours started already, -Cairney to Leicester in early jan because they know we have to sell before we can buy him. -Nakhi Wells to Blackburn/QPR 3m. May as well buy some good young players now if we know we will probably get a transfer ban next season.[/p][/quote]Goalkeeping is becoming an increasingly worrying problem. On the evidence so far Kean and Eastwood are not long-term solutions and may be costly ‘custodians’ while they are here. The third goal against Birmingham was a frightful elementary mistake. Another puzzling aspect is that since Vince O’Keefe and Bobby Mimms left I have not seen a goalkeeper being coached on the training ground. Unless Robbo makes a successful comeback – and that may not just be about ability, but more about Venky’s and his salary – then it seems to me we have a big problem at No 1. I know he’s a bit older than Robbo, but I would have thought Shay Given, financial arrangements permitting, would have made an excellent loan signing from Aston Villa for the rest of this season – and then see how we moved on from there. He was happy at Ewood and I have no doubt he would have relished the challenge of trying to help his old club to promotion. His loan club Middlesbrough have won their last three games against Burnley, Millwall and Reading and he has kept four clean sheets in seven matches. Now, as I say, we are in an increasingly worrying situation that might – Robbo excepted – prove difficult to solve. Rover47

3:36pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Harwoodstblue says...

harwoodblue wrote:
Jan transfer rumours started already,

-Cairney to Leicester in early jan because they know we have to sell before we can buy him.

-Nakhi Wells to Blackburn/QPR 3m.

May as well buy some good young players now if we know we will probably get a transfer ban next season.
Hope we don't lose Cairney whilst Venkys dither.
Hull have turned down our offer once. Why don't they pull their fingers out to get him and in doing so not weakening the team further.
Venkys, you got us in this mess, over too you.
[quote][p][bold]harwoodblue[/bold] wrote: Jan transfer rumours started already, -Cairney to Leicester in early jan because they know we have to sell before we can buy him. -Nakhi Wells to Blackburn/QPR 3m. May as well buy some good young players now if we know we will probably get a transfer ban next season.[/p][/quote]Hope we don't lose Cairney whilst Venkys dither. Hull have turned down our offer once. Why don't they pull their fingers out to get him and in doing so not weakening the team further. Venkys, you got us in this mess, over too you. Harwoodstblue

3:38pm Mon 30 Dec 13

harwoodblue says...

Rover47 wrote:
harwoodblue wrote: Jan transfer rumours started already, -Cairney to Leicester in early jan because they know we have to sell before we can buy him. -Nakhi Wells to Blackburn/QPR 3m. May as well buy some good young players now if we know we will probably get a transfer ban next season.
Goalkeeping is becoming an increasingly worrying problem. On the evidence so far Kean and Eastwood are not long-term solutions and may be costly ‘custodians’ while they are here. The third goal against Birmingham was a frightful elementary mistake. Another puzzling aspect is that since Vince O’Keefe and Bobby Mimms left I have not seen a goalkeeper being coached on the training ground. Unless Robbo makes a successful comeback – and that may not just be about ability, but more about Venky’s and his salary – then it seems to me we have a big problem at No 1. I know he’s a bit older than Robbo, but I would have thought Shay Given, financial arrangements permitting, would have made an excellent loan signing from Aston Villa for the rest of this season – and then see how we moved on from there. He was happy at Ewood and I have no doubt he would have relished the challenge of trying to help his old club to promotion. His loan club Middlesbrough have won their last three games against Burnley, Millwall and Reading and he has kept four clean sheets in seven matches. Now, as I say, we are in an increasingly worrying situation that might – Robbo excepted – prove difficult to solve.
Bring back Brad
[quote][p][bold]Rover47[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]harwoodblue[/bold] wrote: Jan transfer rumours started already, -Cairney to Leicester in early jan because they know we have to sell before we can buy him. -Nakhi Wells to Blackburn/QPR 3m. May as well buy some good young players now if we know we will probably get a transfer ban next season.[/p][/quote]Goalkeeping is becoming an increasingly worrying problem. On the evidence so far Kean and Eastwood are not long-term solutions and may be costly ‘custodians’ while they are here. The third goal against Birmingham was a frightful elementary mistake. Another puzzling aspect is that since Vince O’Keefe and Bobby Mimms left I have not seen a goalkeeper being coached on the training ground. Unless Robbo makes a successful comeback – and that may not just be about ability, but more about Venky’s and his salary – then it seems to me we have a big problem at No 1. I know he’s a bit older than Robbo, but I would have thought Shay Given, financial arrangements permitting, would have made an excellent loan signing from Aston Villa for the rest of this season – and then see how we moved on from there. He was happy at Ewood and I have no doubt he would have relished the challenge of trying to help his old club to promotion. His loan club Middlesbrough have won their last three games against Burnley, Millwall and Reading and he has kept four clean sheets in seven matches. Now, as I say, we are in an increasingly worrying situation that might – Robbo excepted – prove difficult to solve.[/p][/quote]Bring back Brad harwoodblue

3:42pm Mon 30 Dec 13

garner9 says...

I think the fans are fed up of all these words and excuses for failure.

Time to deliver and stop being so darn scared of taking the game to the opposition.

This half paced over cautious and under ambitious approach will leave us as also rans. By all means do not be reckless but the lack of intensity is giving the initiative to the opposition every time

They know we play one up and only Rhodes can score. What would you do if you were the opposition manager. We are too one dimensional to cause anyone real grief. Will you please go for it and stop the pussyfooting.
I think the fans are fed up of all these words and excuses for failure. Time to deliver and stop being so darn scared of taking the game to the opposition. This half paced over cautious and under ambitious approach will leave us as also rans. By all means do not be reckless but the lack of intensity is giving the initiative to the opposition every time They know we play one up and only Rhodes can score. What would you do if you were the opposition manager. We are too one dimensional to cause anyone real grief. Will you please go for it and stop the pussyfooting. garner9

3:42pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Harwoodstblue says...

Rover47 wrote:
harwoodblue wrote:
Jan transfer rumours started already,

-Cairney to Leicester in early jan because they know we have to sell before we can buy him.

-Nakhi Wells to Blackburn/QPR 3m.

May as well buy some good young players now if we know we will probably get a transfer ban next season.
Goalkeeping is becoming an increasingly worrying problem. On the evidence so far Kean and Eastwood are not long-term solutions and may be costly ‘custodians’ while they are here. The third goal against Birmingham was a frightful elementary mistake.

Another puzzling aspect is that since Vince O’Keefe and Bobby Mimms left I have not seen a goalkeeper being coached on the training ground.

Unless Robbo makes a successful comeback – and that may not just be about ability, but more about Venky’s and his salary – then it seems to me we have a big problem at No 1.

I know he’s a bit older than Robbo, but I would have thought Shay Given, financial arrangements permitting, would have made an excellent loan signing from Aston Villa for the rest of this season – and then see how we moved on from there. He was happy at Ewood and I have no doubt he would have relished the challenge of trying to help his old club to promotion.

His loan club Middlesbrough have won their last three games against Burnley, Millwall and Reading and he has kept four clean sheets in seven matches.

Now, as I say, we are in an increasingly worrying situation that might – Robbo excepted – prove difficult to solve.
" His loan club Middlesbrough have won their last three games against Burnley, Millwall and Reading and he has kept four clean sheets in seven matches."
That's a proven, experienced goalkeeper for you and that is one position where you do need experience.
Venkys will no doubt try to get rid of Robbo regardless of experience, due to the financial situation, which they have created.
[quote][p][bold]Rover47[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]harwoodblue[/bold] wrote: Jan transfer rumours started already, -Cairney to Leicester in early jan because they know we have to sell before we can buy him. -Nakhi Wells to Blackburn/QPR 3m. May as well buy some good young players now if we know we will probably get a transfer ban next season.[/p][/quote]Goalkeeping is becoming an increasingly worrying problem. On the evidence so far Kean and Eastwood are not long-term solutions and may be costly ‘custodians’ while they are here. The third goal against Birmingham was a frightful elementary mistake. Another puzzling aspect is that since Vince O’Keefe and Bobby Mimms left I have not seen a goalkeeper being coached on the training ground. Unless Robbo makes a successful comeback – and that may not just be about ability, but more about Venky’s and his salary – then it seems to me we have a big problem at No 1. I know he’s a bit older than Robbo, but I would have thought Shay Given, financial arrangements permitting, would have made an excellent loan signing from Aston Villa for the rest of this season – and then see how we moved on from there. He was happy at Ewood and I have no doubt he would have relished the challenge of trying to help his old club to promotion. His loan club Middlesbrough have won their last three games against Burnley, Millwall and Reading and he has kept four clean sheets in seven matches. Now, as I say, we are in an increasingly worrying situation that might – Robbo excepted – prove difficult to solve.[/p][/quote]" His loan club Middlesbrough have won their last three games against Burnley, Millwall and Reading and he has kept four clean sheets in seven matches." That's a proven, experienced goalkeeper for you and that is one position where you do need experience. Venkys will no doubt try to get rid of Robbo regardless of experience, due to the financial situation, which they have created. Harwoodstblue

3:47pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Rover47 says...

harwoodblue wrote:
Rover47 wrote:
harwoodblue wrote: Jan transfer rumours started already, -Cairney to Leicester in early jan because they know we have to sell before we can buy him. -Nakhi Wells to Blackburn/QPR 3m. May as well buy some good young players now if we know we will probably get a transfer ban next season.
Goalkeeping is becoming an increasingly worrying problem. On the evidence so far Kean and Eastwood are not long-term solutions and may be costly ‘custodians’ while they are here. The third goal against Birmingham was a frightful elementary mistake. Another puzzling aspect is that since Vince O’Keefe and Bobby Mimms left I have not seen a goalkeeper being coached on the training ground. Unless Robbo makes a successful comeback – and that may not just be about ability, but more about Venky’s and his salary – then it seems to me we have a big problem at No 1. I know he’s a bit older than Robbo, but I would have thought Shay Given, financial arrangements permitting, would have made an excellent loan signing from Aston Villa for the rest of this season – and then see how we moved on from there. He was happy at Ewood and I have no doubt he would have relished the challenge of trying to help his old club to promotion. His loan club Middlesbrough have won their last three games against Burnley, Millwall and Reading and he has kept four clean sheets in seven matches. Now, as I say, we are in an increasingly worrying situation that might – Robbo excepted – prove difficult to solve.
Bring back Brad
Quick! As interim 'keeper and goalkeeping coach!
[quote][p][bold]harwoodblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rover47[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]harwoodblue[/bold] wrote: Jan transfer rumours started already, -Cairney to Leicester in early jan because they know we have to sell before we can buy him. -Nakhi Wells to Blackburn/QPR 3m. May as well buy some good young players now if we know we will probably get a transfer ban next season.[/p][/quote]Goalkeeping is becoming an increasingly worrying problem. On the evidence so far Kean and Eastwood are not long-term solutions and may be costly ‘custodians’ while they are here. The third goal against Birmingham was a frightful elementary mistake. Another puzzling aspect is that since Vince O’Keefe and Bobby Mimms left I have not seen a goalkeeper being coached on the training ground. Unless Robbo makes a successful comeback – and that may not just be about ability, but more about Venky’s and his salary – then it seems to me we have a big problem at No 1. I know he’s a bit older than Robbo, but I would have thought Shay Given, financial arrangements permitting, would have made an excellent loan signing from Aston Villa for the rest of this season – and then see how we moved on from there. He was happy at Ewood and I have no doubt he would have relished the challenge of trying to help his old club to promotion. His loan club Middlesbrough have won their last three games against Burnley, Millwall and Reading and he has kept four clean sheets in seven matches. Now, as I say, we are in an increasingly worrying situation that might – Robbo excepted – prove difficult to solve.[/p][/quote]Bring back Brad[/p][/quote]Quick! As interim 'keeper and goalkeeping coach! Rover47

3:52pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Harwoodstblue says...

garner9 wrote:
I think the fans are fed up of all these words and excuses for failure.

Time to deliver and stop being so darn scared of taking the game to the opposition.

This half paced over cautious and under ambitious approach will leave us as also rans. By all means do not be reckless but the lack of intensity is giving the initiative to the opposition every time

They know we play one up and only Rhodes can score. What would you do if you were the opposition manager. We are too one dimensional to cause anyone real grief. Will you please go for it and stop the pussyfooting.
" They know we play one up and only Rhodes can score. We are too one dimensional to cause anyone real grief. "

That's basically what the Sheffield Wednesday manager said in his post match interview.

The opposition have us sussed and it's easy for them. It's about time we played two up front to try to cause them problems, find a good creative midfield battler, ( loan will do) and feed the strikers. An extra goal a game would have given us more points.
[quote][p][bold]garner9[/bold] wrote: I think the fans are fed up of all these words and excuses for failure. Time to deliver and stop being so darn scared of taking the game to the opposition. This half paced over cautious and under ambitious approach will leave us as also rans. By all means do not be reckless but the lack of intensity is giving the initiative to the opposition every time They know we play one up and only Rhodes can score. What would you do if you were the opposition manager. We are too one dimensional to cause anyone real grief. Will you please go for it and stop the pussyfooting.[/p][/quote]" They know we play one up and only Rhodes can score. We are too one dimensional to cause anyone real grief. " That's basically what the Sheffield Wednesday manager said in his post match interview. The opposition have us sussed and it's easy for them. It's about time we played two up front to try to cause them problems, find a good creative midfield battler, ( loan will do) and feed the strikers. An extra goal a game would have given us more points. Harwoodstblue

4:04pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Rover47 says...

Rover47 wrote:
harwoodblue wrote:
Rover47 wrote:
harwoodblue wrote: Jan transfer rumours started already, -Cairney to Leicester in early jan because they know we have to sell before we can buy him. -Nakhi Wells to Blackburn/QPR 3m. May as well buy some good young players now if we know we will probably get a transfer ban next season.
Goalkeeping is becoming an increasingly worrying problem. On the evidence so far Kean and Eastwood are not long-term solutions and may be costly ‘custodians’ while they are here. The third goal against Birmingham was a frightful elementary mistake. Another puzzling aspect is that since Vince O’Keefe and Bobby Mimms left I have not seen a goalkeeper being coached on the training ground. Unless Robbo makes a successful comeback – and that may not just be about ability, but more about Venky’s and his salary – then it seems to me we have a big problem at No 1. I know he’s a bit older than Robbo, but I would have thought Shay Given, financial arrangements permitting, would have made an excellent loan signing from Aston Villa for the rest of this season – and then see how we moved on from there. He was happy at Ewood and I have no doubt he would have relished the challenge of trying to help his old club to promotion. His loan club Middlesbrough have won their last three games against Burnley, Millwall and Reading and he has kept four clean sheets in seven matches. Now, as I say, we are in an increasingly worrying situation that might – Robbo excepted – prove difficult to solve.
Bring back Brad
Quick! As interim 'keeper and goalkeeping coach!
Or maybe as assistant manager!
[quote][p][bold]Rover47[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]harwoodblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rover47[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]harwoodblue[/bold] wrote: Jan transfer rumours started already, -Cairney to Leicester in early jan because they know we have to sell before we can buy him. -Nakhi Wells to Blackburn/QPR 3m. May as well buy some good young players now if we know we will probably get a transfer ban next season.[/p][/quote]Goalkeeping is becoming an increasingly worrying problem. On the evidence so far Kean and Eastwood are not long-term solutions and may be costly ‘custodians’ while they are here. The third goal against Birmingham was a frightful elementary mistake. Another puzzling aspect is that since Vince O’Keefe and Bobby Mimms left I have not seen a goalkeeper being coached on the training ground. Unless Robbo makes a successful comeback – and that may not just be about ability, but more about Venky’s and his salary – then it seems to me we have a big problem at No 1. I know he’s a bit older than Robbo, but I would have thought Shay Given, financial arrangements permitting, would have made an excellent loan signing from Aston Villa for the rest of this season – and then see how we moved on from there. He was happy at Ewood and I have no doubt he would have relished the challenge of trying to help his old club to promotion. His loan club Middlesbrough have won their last three games against Burnley, Millwall and Reading and he has kept four clean sheets in seven matches. Now, as I say, we are in an increasingly worrying situation that might – Robbo excepted – prove difficult to solve.[/p][/quote]Bring back Brad[/p][/quote]Quick! As interim 'keeper and goalkeeping coach![/p][/quote]Or maybe as assistant manager! Rover47

4:53pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Heidenreicher says...

A Darener wrote:
GB may be confident. Don't think the fans are.
You don't speak for me.
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: GB may be confident. Don't think the fans are.[/p][/quote]You don't speak for me. Heidenreicher

4:53pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Heidenreicher says...

Rovers 1495 wrote:
Could you please be quiet, Gary, you're starting to sound like Steve Kean
You're starting to sound like a troll.
[quote][p][bold]Rovers 1495[/bold] wrote: Could you please be quiet, Gary, you're starting to sound like Steve Kean[/p][/quote]You're starting to sound like a troll. Heidenreicher

6:12pm Mon 30 Dec 13

WTIN56 says...

Sorry, but one point from six at home against two teams helping to hold up the Championship is just not good enough and calls for drastic action. The Venkys need to smell the grass and act quick to secure the services of big Malky, a course and distance winner. With an estimated £3m on his tail after his payoff from Cardiff he might relish the challenge at Blackburn.
Sorry, but one point from six at home against two teams helping to hold up the Championship is just not good enough and calls for drastic action. The Venkys need to smell the grass and act quick to secure the services of big Malky, a course and distance winner. With an estimated £3m on his tail after his payoff from Cardiff he might relish the challenge at Blackburn. WTIN56

6:38pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Is Eckersley playing? says...

WTIN56 wrote:
Sorry, but one point from six at home against two teams helping to hold up the Championship is just not good enough and calls for drastic action. The Venkys need to smell the grass and act quick to secure the services of big Malky, a course and distance winner. With an estimated £3m on his tail after his payoff from Cardiff he might relish the challenge at Blackburn.
Tan and Venkys......frying pan and fire.
[quote][p][bold]WTIN56[/bold] wrote: Sorry, but one point from six at home against two teams helping to hold up the Championship is just not good enough and calls for drastic action. The Venkys need to smell the grass and act quick to secure the services of big Malky, a course and distance winner. With an estimated £3m on his tail after his payoff from Cardiff he might relish the challenge at Blackburn.[/p][/quote]Tan and Venkys......frying pan and fire. Is Eckersley playing?

6:44pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Arron1212 says...

What a game to bring robbo back in v Leeds come on robbo sort out are back 4
What a game to bring robbo back in v Leeds come on robbo sort out are back 4 Arron1212

6:47pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Harwoodstblue says...

Is Eckersley playing? wrote:
WTIN56 wrote:
Sorry, but one point from six at home against two teams helping to hold up the Championship is just not good enough and calls for drastic action. The Venkys need to smell the grass and act quick to secure the services of big Malky, a course and distance winner. With an estimated £3m on his tail after his payoff from Cardiff he might relish the challenge at Blackburn.
Tan and Venkys......frying pan and fire.
Tan wants the new manager to sign players with the number 8 in their birth date ??????????????
[quote][p][bold]Is Eckersley playing?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WTIN56[/bold] wrote: Sorry, but one point from six at home against two teams helping to hold up the Championship is just not good enough and calls for drastic action. The Venkys need to smell the grass and act quick to secure the services of big Malky, a course and distance winner. With an estimated £3m on his tail after his payoff from Cardiff he might relish the challenge at Blackburn.[/p][/quote]Tan and Venkys......frying pan and fire.[/p][/quote]Tan wants the new manager to sign players with the number 8 in their birth date ?????????????? Harwoodstblue

7:10pm Mon 30 Dec 13

mushypeaman says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
garner9 wrote:
I think the fans are fed up of all these words and excuses for failure.

Time to deliver and stop being so darn scared of taking the game to the opposition.

This half paced over cautious and under ambitious approach will leave us as also rans. By all means do not be reckless but the lack of intensity is giving the initiative to the opposition every time

They know we play one up and only Rhodes can score. What would you do if you were the opposition manager. We are too one dimensional to cause anyone real grief. Will you please go for it and stop the pussyfooting.
" They know we play one up and only Rhodes can score. We are too one dimensional to cause anyone real grief. "

That's basically what the Sheffield Wednesday manager said in his post match interview.

The opposition have us sussed and it's easy for them. It's about time we played two up front to try to cause them problems, find a good creative midfield battler, ( loan will do) and feed the strikers. An extra goal a game would have given us more points.
Imagine a goal a game would give us more points - What a genius.
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]garner9[/bold] wrote: I think the fans are fed up of all these words and excuses for failure. Time to deliver and stop being so darn scared of taking the game to the opposition. This half paced over cautious and under ambitious approach will leave us as also rans. By all means do not be reckless but the lack of intensity is giving the initiative to the opposition every time They know we play one up and only Rhodes can score. What would you do if you were the opposition manager. We are too one dimensional to cause anyone real grief. Will you please go for it and stop the pussyfooting.[/p][/quote]" They know we play one up and only Rhodes can score. We are too one dimensional to cause anyone real grief. " That's basically what the Sheffield Wednesday manager said in his post match interview. The opposition have us sussed and it's easy for them. It's about time we played two up front to try to cause them problems, find a good creative midfield battler, ( loan will do) and feed the strikers. An extra goal a game would have given us more points.[/p][/quote]Imagine a goal a game would give us more points - What a genius. mushypeaman

7:15pm Mon 30 Dec 13

crankitup says...

jack01 wrote:
Negative tactics? Did you watch the game against Birmingham?

63% possession and 25 attempts on goal.

You can accuse Bowyer of making a number of mistakes but taking a negative approach yesterday simply isn't true. If anything we were too offensive in the opening 20 minutes which enabled Birmingham to break away and get three goals with their first three attempts.

I see Bowyer is now getting criticised for playing Rochina from the start. This was after the Sheffield Wednesday game when people were booing and complaining because he only gave Rochina 20 minutes at the end.
Notice how as soon as Rochina left the pitch we got back into the game and quickly scored two goals and had Birmingham crumbling. People were clambering for Rochina to be given a chance, Bowyer obliged, and I don't think it did the team any favors whatsoever.
all due respect Jack...but you can have 98% of the possession and have 100 attempts at goal....but if you don't have the quality to make the possession count or hit the net then the stats mean nowt mate....

our problem is that we huff and puff but fail to blow the house down, and games we should be winning are getting away from us, and when we do manage to get a draw at home against a lower positioned team we're being told that this is a good result because our opponents are fighting for their lives.....that seems to be what's missing at Rovers...Fight, yes we pulled two goals back, but should we have really gone 3 goals down in the first place?

Fight to me is to put our opponents on the back foot from the start, take our opportunities when the present themselves to us, if we go 1 down then we should push even harder....plug the back and attack with a passion....we seem to me to be too laid back and then when it goes t*ts up we put in a shift...but this can be too late as shown yesterday.....i was at the game and i nearly left at half time....but i'm glad i stayed if only to see our main reason we're in the position we are in (JR) bag two.
[quote][p][bold]jack01[/bold] wrote: Negative tactics? Did you watch the game against Birmingham? 63% possession and 25 attempts on goal. You can accuse Bowyer of making a number of mistakes but taking a negative approach yesterday simply isn't true. If anything we were too offensive in the opening 20 minutes which enabled Birmingham to break away and get three goals with their first three attempts. I see Bowyer is now getting criticised for playing Rochina from the start. This was after the Sheffield Wednesday game when people were booing and complaining because he only gave Rochina 20 minutes at the end. Notice how as soon as Rochina left the pitch we got back into the game and quickly scored two goals and had Birmingham crumbling. People were clambering for Rochina to be given a chance, Bowyer obliged, and I don't think it did the team any favors whatsoever.[/p][/quote]all due respect Jack...but you can have 98% of the possession and have 100 attempts at goal....but if you don't have the quality to make the possession count or hit the net then the stats mean nowt mate.... our problem is that we huff and puff but fail to blow the house down, and games we should be winning are getting away from us, and when we do manage to get a draw at home against a lower positioned team we're being told that this is a good result because our opponents are fighting for their lives.....that seems to be what's missing at Rovers...Fight, yes we pulled two goals back, but should we have really gone 3 goals down in the first place? Fight to me is to put our opponents on the back foot from the start, take our opportunities when the present themselves to us, if we go 1 down then we should push even harder....plug the back and attack with a passion....we seem to me to be too laid back and then when it goes t*ts up we put in a shift...but this can be too late as shown yesterday.....i was at the game and i nearly left at half time....but i'm glad i stayed if only to see our main reason we're in the position we are in (JR) bag two. crankitup

7:23pm Mon 30 Dec 13

crankitup says...

FakeVilla_MTCabinet wrote:
crankitup wrote:
i think i need a dose of what GB is taking...because if we can't beat teams that are below us, how the hell can we expect to beat the ones above us?

i understand the manager having to stay positive but it's wearing a bit thin with the fans, and i for one am disappointed with the 5 points dropped over Christmas, we should have been knocking on the door of the play-offs and with another win possibly taking us into the top six, but instead we're having to hope for a win just to keep up with the pack.

we've got
Leeds away, which i think we'll loose.
Doncaster at home, we should win (but you never know they're below us)
Forest away and Derby at home, possibly 1 point out of the two games

to my reckoning that's 3 points out of a possible 12 and that's not good enough to stay with the pack let alone make the play-offs.
Fair comment but Burnley couldn't beat boro or wigan or huddersfield etc etc so that blows that myth out of the water.
Anyone can beat anyone in this division and so long as we are not too far away, a good run after new year can see it all change. I also expect to see Burnley drop like a stone in the new year
FV...i respect everyone's opinions....but can you really see us stringing a run together?....look at the fixtures and tell me honestly off our past form can you see us starting a run of wins?

as for Burnley...all teams have a bad spell (i hope theirs last a bit longer) but our bad spell seems to start every couple of games....we win one or two....we draw one or two...we loose one or two....that's been the way all season thus far...we need to shake that monkey off our backs before we can even think of extending our season unbeaten record of 4 games.
[quote][p][bold]FakeVilla_MTCabinet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]crankitup[/bold] wrote: i think i need a dose of what GB is taking...because if we can't beat teams that are below us, how the hell can we expect to beat the ones above us? i understand the manager having to stay positive but it's wearing a bit thin with the fans, and i for one am disappointed with the 5 points dropped over Christmas, we should have been knocking on the door of the play-offs and with another win possibly taking us into the top six, but instead we're having to hope for a win just to keep up with the pack. we've got Leeds away, which i think we'll loose. Doncaster at home, we should win (but you never know they're below us) Forest away and Derby at home, possibly 1 point out of the two games to my reckoning that's 3 points out of a possible 12 and that's not good enough to stay with the pack let alone make the play-offs.[/p][/quote]Fair comment but Burnley couldn't beat boro or wigan or huddersfield etc etc so that blows that myth out of the water. Anyone can beat anyone in this division and so long as we are not too far away, a good run after new year can see it all change. I also expect to see Burnley drop like a stone in the new year[/p][/quote]FV...i respect everyone's opinions....but can you really see us stringing a run together?....look at the fixtures and tell me honestly off our past form can you see us starting a run of wins? as for Burnley...all teams have a bad spell (i hope theirs last a bit longer) but our bad spell seems to start every couple of games....we win one or two....we draw one or two...we loose one or two....that's been the way all season thus far...we need to shake that monkey off our backs before we can even think of extending our season unbeaten record of 4 games. crankitup

8:12pm Mon 30 Dec 13

noddy57 says...

A Darener wrote:
GB may be confident. Don't think the fans are.
well l for one am not convinced we can go to Leeds and get a result,,we cannot get one at home to Wednesday or Birmingham so what makes GB think we can playing away from home at a tough venue like Elland Road ? l will be the first one to congratulate him on the unlikely outcome,dropping 4 points over the last 2 games at this crucial time of the year makes things perticularly tough for the remainder of the season ,,
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: GB may be confident. Don't think the fans are.[/p][/quote]well l for one am not convinced we can go to Leeds and get a result,,we cannot get one at home to Wednesday or Birmingham so what makes GB think we can playing away from home at a tough venue like Elland Road ? l will be the first one to congratulate him on the unlikely outcome,dropping 4 points over the last 2 games at this crucial time of the year makes things perticularly tough for the remainder of the season ,, noddy57

8:15pm Mon 30 Dec 13

bluerob says...

jack01 wrote:
Negative tactics? Did you watch the game against Birmingham?

63% possession and 25 attempts on goal.

You can accuse Bowyer of making a number of mistakes but taking a negative approach yesterday simply isn't true. If anything we were too offensive in the opening 20 minutes which enabled Birmingham to break away and get three goals with their first three attempts.

I see Bowyer is now getting criticised for playing Rochina from the start. This was after the Sheffield Wednesday game when people were booing and complaining because he only gave Rochina 20 minutes at the end.
Notice how as soon as Rochina left the pitch we got back into the game and quickly scored two goals and had Birmingham crumbling. People were clambering for Rochina to be given a chance, Bowyer obliged, and I don't think it did the team any favors whatsoever.
Can't agree with you on Rochina, he is the one player we have fit at the moment who can create opportunities out of nothing and get you off your seat. Yes he makes some mistakes but at least he goes for it and doesn't spend 90 minutes passing it sideways and backwards.

As I remember it he was taken off after we had scored the first goal, bad timing in my opinion .

Could someone tell Henley that full backs are allowed to pass the ball forward.
[quote][p][bold]jack01[/bold] wrote: Negative tactics? Did you watch the game against Birmingham? 63% possession and 25 attempts on goal. You can accuse Bowyer of making a number of mistakes but taking a negative approach yesterday simply isn't true. If anything we were too offensive in the opening 20 minutes which enabled Birmingham to break away and get three goals with their first three attempts. I see Bowyer is now getting criticised for playing Rochina from the start. This was after the Sheffield Wednesday game when people were booing and complaining because he only gave Rochina 20 minutes at the end. Notice how as soon as Rochina left the pitch we got back into the game and quickly scored two goals and had Birmingham crumbling. People were clambering for Rochina to be given a chance, Bowyer obliged, and I don't think it did the team any favors whatsoever.[/p][/quote]Can't agree with you on Rochina, he is the one player we have fit at the moment who can create opportunities out of nothing and get you off your seat. Yes he makes some mistakes but at least he goes for it and doesn't spend 90 minutes passing it sideways and backwards. As I remember it he was taken off after we had scored the first goal, bad timing in my opinion . Could someone tell Henley that full backs are allowed to pass the ball forward. bluerob

9:02pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Harwoodstblue says...

mushypeaman wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
garner9 wrote:
I think the fans are fed up of all these words and excuses for failure.

Time to deliver and stop being so darn scared of taking the game to the opposition.

This half paced over cautious and under ambitious approach will leave us as also rans. By all means do not be reckless but the lack of intensity is giving the initiative to the opposition every time

They know we play one up and only Rhodes can score. What would you do if you were the opposition manager. We are too one dimensional to cause anyone real grief. Will you please go for it and stop the pussyfooting.
" They know we play one up and only Rhodes can score. We are too one dimensional to cause anyone real grief. "

That's basically what the Sheffield Wednesday manager said in his post match interview.

The opposition have us sussed and it's easy for them. It's about time we played two up front to try to cause them problems, find a good creative midfield battler, ( loan will do) and feed the strikers. An extra goal a game would have given us more points.
Imagine a goal a game would give us more points - What a genius.
No need to be sarcastic.....If you don't score more than the opposition you don't win. Rhodes has been on his own for months with nothing done about it and opponents find it easy playing against us. Even those below us in the league.
I wish I was as clever as you Einstein.
[quote][p][bold]mushypeaman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]garner9[/bold] wrote: I think the fans are fed up of all these words and excuses for failure. Time to deliver and stop being so darn scared of taking the game to the opposition. This half paced over cautious and under ambitious approach will leave us as also rans. By all means do not be reckless but the lack of intensity is giving the initiative to the opposition every time They know we play one up and only Rhodes can score. What would you do if you were the opposition manager. We are too one dimensional to cause anyone real grief. Will you please go for it and stop the pussyfooting.[/p][/quote]" They know we play one up and only Rhodes can score. We are too one dimensional to cause anyone real grief. " That's basically what the Sheffield Wednesday manager said in his post match interview. The opposition have us sussed and it's easy for them. It's about time we played two up front to try to cause them problems, find a good creative midfield battler, ( loan will do) and feed the strikers. An extra goal a game would have given us more points.[/p][/quote]Imagine a goal a game would give us more points - What a genius.[/p][/quote]No need to be sarcastic.....If you don't score more than the opposition you don't win. Rhodes has been on his own for months with nothing done about it and opponents find it easy playing against us. Even those below us in the league. I wish I was as clever as you Einstein. Harwoodstblue

11:41pm Mon 30 Dec 13

speedie_rovers_legend says...

BOWYER we must just cut out these gifts, well it is You who is picking the players who are playing santa , maybe you should resign.
BOWYER we must just cut out these gifts, well it is You who is picking the players who are playing santa , maybe you should resign. speedie_rovers_legend

8:54am Tue 31 Dec 13

forever blue and white says...

bluerob wrote:
jack01 wrote:
Negative tactics? Did you watch the game against Birmingham?

63% possession and 25 attempts on goal.

You can accuse Bowyer of making a number of mistakes but taking a negative approach yesterday simply isn't true. If anything we were too offensive in the opening 20 minutes which enabled Birmingham to break away and get three goals with their first three attempts.

I see Bowyer is now getting criticised for playing Rochina from the start. This was after the Sheffield Wednesday game when people were booing and complaining because he only gave Rochina 20 minutes at the end.
Notice how as soon as Rochina left the pitch we got back into the game and quickly scored two goals and had Birmingham crumbling. People were clambering for Rochina to be given a chance, Bowyer obliged, and I don't think it did the team any favors whatsoever.
Can't agree with you on Rochina, he is the one player we have fit at the moment who can create opportunities out of nothing and get you off your seat. Yes he makes some mistakes but at least he goes for it and doesn't spend 90 minutes passing it sideways and backwards.

As I remember it he was taken off after we had scored the first goal, bad timing in my opinion .

Could someone tell Henley that full backs are allowed to pass the ball forward.
You are correct Bluerob about Henley passing forward. Unfortunately GB was clapping Henley every single time he passed either back or sideways. It was almost as if GB had told Henley that keep ball is far more important than to try occasionally to take the fullback on. Very frustrating to watch and part of the reason we are not winning games more consistently.
[quote][p][bold]bluerob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jack01[/bold] wrote: Negative tactics? Did you watch the game against Birmingham? 63% possession and 25 attempts on goal. You can accuse Bowyer of making a number of mistakes but taking a negative approach yesterday simply isn't true. If anything we were too offensive in the opening 20 minutes which enabled Birmingham to break away and get three goals with their first three attempts. I see Bowyer is now getting criticised for playing Rochina from the start. This was after the Sheffield Wednesday game when people were booing and complaining because he only gave Rochina 20 minutes at the end. Notice how as soon as Rochina left the pitch we got back into the game and quickly scored two goals and had Birmingham crumbling. People were clambering for Rochina to be given a chance, Bowyer obliged, and I don't think it did the team any favors whatsoever.[/p][/quote]Can't agree with you on Rochina, he is the one player we have fit at the moment who can create opportunities out of nothing and get you off your seat. Yes he makes some mistakes but at least he goes for it and doesn't spend 90 minutes passing it sideways and backwards. As I remember it he was taken off after we had scored the first goal, bad timing in my opinion . Could someone tell Henley that full backs are allowed to pass the ball forward.[/p][/quote]You are correct Bluerob about Henley passing forward. Unfortunately GB was clapping Henley every single time he passed either back or sideways. It was almost as if GB had told Henley that keep ball is far more important than to try occasionally to take the fullback on. Very frustrating to watch and part of the reason we are not winning games more consistently. forever blue and white

9:32am Tue 31 Dec 13

Harwoodstblue says...

forever blue and white wrote:
bluerob wrote:
jack01 wrote:
Negative tactics? Did you watch the game against Birmingham?

63% possession and 25 attempts on goal.

You can accuse Bowyer of making a number of mistakes but taking a negative approach yesterday simply isn't true. If anything we were too offensive in the opening 20 minutes which enabled Birmingham to break away and get three goals with their first three attempts.

I see Bowyer is now getting criticised for playing Rochina from the start. This was after the Sheffield Wednesday game when people were booing and complaining because he only gave Rochina 20 minutes at the end.
Notice how as soon as Rochina left the pitch we got back into the game and quickly scored two goals and had Birmingham crumbling. People were clambering for Rochina to be given a chance, Bowyer obliged, and I don't think it did the team any favors whatsoever.
Can't agree with you on Rochina, he is the one player we have fit at the moment who can create opportunities out of nothing and get you off your seat. Yes he makes some mistakes but at least he goes for it and doesn't spend 90 minutes passing it sideways and backwards.

As I remember it he was taken off after we had scored the first goal, bad timing in my opinion .

Could someone tell Henley that full backs are allowed to pass the ball forward.
You are correct Bluerob about Henley passing forward. Unfortunately GB was clapping Henley every single time he passed either back or sideways. It was almost as if GB had told Henley that keep ball is far more important than to try occasionally to take the fullback on. Very frustrating to watch and part of the reason we are not winning games more consistently.
Totally negative tactics, like playing two holding midfielders at home and playing Rhodes up front on his own ...AT HOME.
Incredible
[quote][p][bold]forever blue and white[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bluerob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jack01[/bold] wrote: Negative tactics? Did you watch the game against Birmingham? 63% possession and 25 attempts on goal. You can accuse Bowyer of making a number of mistakes but taking a negative approach yesterday simply isn't true. If anything we were too offensive in the opening 20 minutes which enabled Birmingham to break away and get three goals with their first three attempts. I see Bowyer is now getting criticised for playing Rochina from the start. This was after the Sheffield Wednesday game when people were booing and complaining because he only gave Rochina 20 minutes at the end. Notice how as soon as Rochina left the pitch we got back into the game and quickly scored two goals and had Birmingham crumbling. People were clambering for Rochina to be given a chance, Bowyer obliged, and I don't think it did the team any favors whatsoever.[/p][/quote]Can't agree with you on Rochina, he is the one player we have fit at the moment who can create opportunities out of nothing and get you off your seat. Yes he makes some mistakes but at least he goes for it and doesn't spend 90 minutes passing it sideways and backwards. As I remember it he was taken off after we had scored the first goal, bad timing in my opinion . Could someone tell Henley that full backs are allowed to pass the ball forward.[/p][/quote]You are correct Bluerob about Henley passing forward. Unfortunately GB was clapping Henley every single time he passed either back or sideways. It was almost as if GB had told Henley that keep ball is far more important than to try occasionally to take the fullback on. Very frustrating to watch and part of the reason we are not winning games more consistently.[/p][/quote]Totally negative tactics, like playing two holding midfielders at home and playing Rhodes up front on his own ...AT HOME. Incredible Harwoodstblue

2:58pm Wed 1 Jan 14

MxMave says...

MxMave wrote:
Only1Garner wrote:
Alan Judge must start for me, what a difference he made yesterday, full of energy and that rare commodity in the Rovers team, PACE.
Hes linked with a loan move to brentford...
-5 rating on that comment. LET made this fact public yesterday... just shows the intelligence level of most rovers fans.
[quote][p][bold]MxMave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Only1Garner[/bold] wrote: Alan Judge must start for me, what a difference he made yesterday, full of energy and that rare commodity in the Rovers team, PACE.[/p][/quote]Hes linked with a loan move to brentford...[/p][/quote]-5 rating on that comment. LET made this fact public yesterday... just shows the intelligence level of most rovers fans. MxMave

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