Full-time: Blackburn Rovers 2 Birmingham City 3

A SPIRITED second-half fight back could not stop Rovers from seeing their longest unbeaten run of the season come to an end as they finished 2013 in defeat.

Gary Bowyer’s side, unbeaten in their previous four matches, found themselves three goals down at half-time to in-form Birmingham.

Lee Novak punished poor defending in the 12th minute and scored a wonderful second from 30 yards six minutes later.

Jordan Rhodes hit the post before Chris Burke took full advantage of a terrible mistake from goalkeeper Simon Eastwood in the 36th minute to extend Lee Clark’s side’s lead.

Rhodes reduced the deficit in the 66th minute by heading home a Ben Marshall cross.

And Rovers’ top scorer did it again six minutes later when he raced on to a ball over the top by Scott Dann before lifting the ball brilliantly over Darren Randolph to take his tally for the term up to 15.

Birmingham became more and more entrenched in their own half.

But after Dann missed a glorious chance to equalise, they hung on for a win which stretched their unbeaten run to nine games.

Rovers boss Bowyer said: “We could quite easily have collapsed and died but this group of players don’t know how to do that and that’s full credit to them because we turned that mentality around very quickly in a short space of time and on another day we might have got a point.

“But at the same time we could even have won it. It was a crazy game.”

For a full report and reaction see tomorrow’s Lancashire Telegraph.

Rovers: Eastwood, Henley, Dann, Hanley, Spurr, Lowe, Williamson (Gestede 46), Cairney, Rochina (Judge 66), Marshall (Taylor 88), Rhodes. Subs: Kean, Kilgallon, Campbell, Olsson.

Booked: Williamson, Lowe.

Goals: Rhodes 66, 72.

Birmingham: Randolph, Caddis, Bartley, Burn, Robinson, Adeyemi (Reilly 34), Lee, Burke (Lovenkrands 88), Shinnie (Ferguson 76), Novak, Zigic. Subs: Doyle, Mullins, Brown, Gray.

Booked: Zigic, Novak.

Goals: Novak 12, 18, Burke 36.

Referee: Scott Duncan.

Attendance: 14,344 (1,000 away).

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6:43pm Sun 29 Dec 13

tom2malta2 says...

Absolutely garbage Bowyer, 6 points wasted because you haven't got a clue.Either resign or Venkys grow some balls and get rid. NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
Absolutely garbage Bowyer, 6 points wasted because you haven't got a clue.Either resign or Venkys grow some balls and get rid. NOT GOOD ENOUGH. tom2malta2

6:49pm Sun 29 Dec 13

Manuel Hung says...

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!

Takes deep breath

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!

Losers!!

#midtablemugs
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!! Takes deep breath Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!! Losers!! #midtablemugs Manuel Hung

6:49pm Sun 29 Dec 13

j bee says...

i have to laugh at garner THINGS ARE LOOKING UP second rate reporter and not good enough to play first division foot ball harder away games to come, promotion forget it ,
i have to laugh at garner THINGS ARE LOOKING UP second rate reporter and not good enough to play first division foot ball harder away games to come, promotion forget it , j bee

6:55pm Sun 29 Dec 13

Manuel Hung says...

The only glimmer of hope in your otherwise pathetic season is that the way things are going Cardiff are likely to take the title of 'Worst Run Club' from you.

However you will still retain the title of 'Biggest Football Laughing Stock' for many years to come.

UTC!!

#midtablemugs
The only glimmer of hope in your otherwise pathetic season is that the way things are going Cardiff are likely to take the title of 'Worst Run Club' from you. However you will still retain the title of 'Biggest Football Laughing Stock' for many years to come. UTC!! #midtablemugs Manuel Hung

6:59pm Sun 29 Dec 13

midsclaret says...

tom2malta2 wrote:
Absolutely garbage Bowyer, 6 points wasted because you haven't got a clue.Either resign or Venkys grow some balls and get rid. NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
oh dear what a shame, never mind eh! nice easy game on new years day Leeds away.
[quote][p][bold]tom2malta2[/bold] wrote: Absolutely garbage Bowyer, 6 points wasted because you haven't got a clue.Either resign or Venkys grow some balls and get rid. NOT GOOD ENOUGH.[/p][/quote]oh dear what a shame, never mind eh! nice easy game on new years day Leeds away. midsclaret

6:59pm Sun 29 Dec 13

baldie says...

We're exactly halfway through the season.
We're exactly halfway in the table.
We're 13 points from automatic promotion.
We're 12 points above relegation.
We couldn't be more in the middle.
The question has to be,do Venkys stick or twist?
If they go for a new manager,then it has to be worth it.
If they stick with Bowyer then he has to start going for wins.They've proved today that they can put teams under pressure.
I'll back whoever is in charge as always,so come on Gary.
You've done an admirable job in steadying the ship,you now have to go for it.
We're exactly halfway through the season. We're exactly halfway in the table. We're 13 points from automatic promotion. We're 12 points above relegation. We couldn't be more in the middle. The question has to be,do Venkys stick or twist? If they go for a new manager,then it has to be worth it. If they stick with Bowyer then he has to start going for wins.They've proved today that they can put teams under pressure. I'll back whoever is in charge as always,so come on Gary. You've done an admirable job in steadying the ship,you now have to go for it. baldie

7:00pm Sun 29 Dec 13

bluerob says...

5 points lost over the Xmas period is just not good enough with this squad, we should be clearly in the top 6 now.

I'm fed up of hearing how well we played and we come away with zero points, time to get tough Gary and set your sights higher, not achieving a top 6 finish is not acceptable.
5 points lost over the Xmas period is just not good enough with this squad, we should be clearly in the top 6 now. I'm fed up of hearing how well we played and we come away with zero points, time to get tough Gary and set your sights higher, not achieving a top 6 finish is not acceptable. bluerob

7:02pm Sun 29 Dec 13

dangerous dave says...

tom2malta2 wrote:
Absolutely garbage Bowyer, 6 points wasted because you haven't got a clue.Either resign or Venkys grow some balls and get rid. NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
agree.
4 points out of 9 in three xmas games
quotes of 'we can brush away birmingham, give us a wall of noise, rovers can break down teams' - what garbage from blithering idiots - so if there's a time to take stock of our Manager and his team of misfits, freebies and friends its now - simply not good enough!. As for the blue and white spectacles of Mr Angry and Greengrocer who cant see the wood from the trees todays result must confirm even to the likes of them how bad we are!!
And as for Simon Garner and his quotes of things are looking good - have a re think!!
OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS INCLUDING SHAW BOWYER COAR AND HENDRY - this regime is an embarrassment to the club!
[quote][p][bold]tom2malta2[/bold] wrote: Absolutely garbage Bowyer, 6 points wasted because you haven't got a clue.Either resign or Venkys grow some balls and get rid. NOT GOOD ENOUGH.[/p][/quote]agree. 4 points out of 9 in three xmas games quotes of 'we can brush away birmingham, give us a wall of noise, rovers can break down teams' - what garbage from blithering idiots - so if there's a time to take stock of our Manager and his team of misfits, freebies and friends its now - simply not good enough!. As for the blue and white spectacles of Mr Angry and Greengrocer who cant see the wood from the trees todays result must confirm even to the likes of them how bad we are!! And as for Simon Garner and his quotes of things are looking good - have a re think!! OUT WITH THE COWBOYS AND INDIANS INCLUDING SHAW BOWYER COAR AND HENDRY - this regime is an embarrassment to the club! dangerous dave

7:03pm Sun 29 Dec 13

cboyer says...

scott dann is a disgrace the way he gripped our own keeper for making 1 mistake! dann makes more mistakes than anybody and has lost us loads of points wasnt a bad performance to be honest if we are all honest here we didnt deserve to get beat today
scott dann is a disgrace the way he gripped our own keeper for making 1 mistake! dann makes more mistakes than anybody and has lost us loads of points wasnt a bad performance to be honest if we are all honest here we didnt deserve to get beat today cboyer

7:03pm Sun 29 Dec 13

You're not mugging me off that easily says...

Manuel Hung wrote:
The only glimmer of hope in your otherwise pathetic season is that the way things are going Cardiff are likely to take the title of 'Worst Run Club' from you.

However you will still retain the title of 'Biggest Football Laughing Stock' for many years to come.

UTC!!

#midtablemugs
And a crowd of 13,344 no dads to see Jordan Rhodes FC end the year in the same fashion as they started. Totally humiliated.

A once "proud club indeed".

Venky's out - Vincent Tan IN !!!
[quote][p][bold]Manuel Hung[/bold] wrote: The only glimmer of hope in your otherwise pathetic season is that the way things are going Cardiff are likely to take the title of 'Worst Run Club' from you. However you will still retain the title of 'Biggest Football Laughing Stock' for many years to come. UTC!! #midtablemugs[/p][/quote]And a crowd of 13,344 no dads to see Jordan Rhodes FC end the year in the same fashion as they started. Totally humiliated. A once "proud club indeed". Venky's out - Vincent Tan IN !!! You're not mugging me off that easily

7:05pm Sun 29 Dec 13

Tom F. says...

If you read this GB!!!
Please resign. You did really well until now. A premL squad to manage is a bit TOO much for a youth Team coach. Listen,...we do offer you another Job if you wanted,...as a clown in an indian circus. You ve been lucky that Keano was signing JORDAN, but now it is time to say good bye!
Steve was 2nd in the league and could have gain promotion,....you will never be in this position.
Please take your boooooooboys and leave rovers NOW!
Best TF
If you read this GB!!! Please resign. You did really well until now. A premL squad to manage is a bit TOO much for a youth Team coach. Listen,...we do offer you another Job if you wanted,...as a clown in an indian circus. You ve been lucky that Keano was signing JORDAN, but now it is time to say good bye! Steve was 2nd in the league and could have gain promotion,....you will never be in this position. Please take your boooooooboys and leave rovers NOW! Best TF Tom F.

7:06pm Sun 29 Dec 13

You're not mugging me off that easily says...

tom2malta2 wrote:
Absolutely garbage Bowyer, 6 points wasted because you haven't got a clue.Either resign or Venkys grow some balls and get rid. NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
Another Stephen Hawking no dad who can't count.

It's 3 points for a win Carol Vorderman.
[quote][p][bold]tom2malta2[/bold] wrote: Absolutely garbage Bowyer, 6 points wasted because you haven't got a clue.Either resign or Venkys grow some balls and get rid. NOT GOOD ENOUGH.[/p][/quote]Another Stephen Hawking no dad who can't count. It's 3 points for a win Carol Vorderman. You're not mugging me off that easily

7:11pm Sun 29 Dec 13

cboyer says...

Tom F. wrote:
If you read this GB!!!
Please resign. You did really well until now. A premL squad to manage is a bit TOO much for a youth Team coach. Listen,...we do offer you another Job if you wanted,...as a clown in an indian circus. You ve been lucky that Keano was signing JORDAN, but now it is time to say good bye!
Steve was 2nd in the league and could have gain promotion,....you will never be in this position.
Please take your boooooooboys and leave rovers NOW!
Best TF
go follow keans team then
[quote][p][bold]Tom F.[/bold] wrote: If you read this GB!!! Please resign. You did really well until now. A premL squad to manage is a bit TOO much for a youth Team coach. Listen,...we do offer you another Job if you wanted,...as a clown in an indian circus. You ve been lucky that Keano was signing JORDAN, but now it is time to say good bye! Steve was 2nd in the league and could have gain promotion,....you will never be in this position. Please take your boooooooboys and leave rovers NOW! Best TF[/p][/quote]go follow keans team then cboyer

7:11pm Sun 29 Dec 13

MHUK says...

Manuel Hung wrote:
The only glimmer of hope in your otherwise pathetic season is that the way things are going Cardiff are likely to take the title of 'Worst Run Club' from you.

However you will still retain the title of 'Biggest Football Laughing Stock' for many years to come.

UTC!!

#midtablemugs
Lets hope you peasants fluke your way up one more time hahahahahahahahahaha
..... what happened last time rofpmsl

#everybodysmugs
[quote][p][bold]Manuel Hung[/bold] wrote: The only glimmer of hope in your otherwise pathetic season is that the way things are going Cardiff are likely to take the title of 'Worst Run Club' from you. However you will still retain the title of 'Biggest Football Laughing Stock' for many years to come. UTC!! #midtablemugs[/p][/quote]Lets hope you peasants fluke your way up one more time hahahahahahahahahaha ..... what happened last time rofpmsl #everybodysmugs MHUK

7:15pm Sun 29 Dec 13

You're not mugging me off that easily says...

bluerob wrote:
5 points lost over the Xmas period is just not good enough with this squad, we should be clearly in the top 6 now.

I'm fed up of hearing how well we played and we come away with zero points, time to get tough Gary and set your sights higher, not achieving a top 6 finish is not acceptable.
"We should be clearly in the top 6 now"

Sheer arrogance in its rawest form.

The only reason you are at the lofty heights of 12th is because your soon to be ex-striker Rhodes is the only one who can be arsed to muck in and score a few. I feel really sorry for the lad.
[quote][p][bold]bluerob[/bold] wrote: 5 points lost over the Xmas period is just not good enough with this squad, we should be clearly in the top 6 now. I'm fed up of hearing how well we played and we come away with zero points, time to get tough Gary and set your sights higher, not achieving a top 6 finish is not acceptable.[/p][/quote]"We should be clearly in the top 6 now" Sheer arrogance in its rawest form. The only reason you are at the lofty heights of 12th is because your soon to be ex-striker Rhodes is the only one who can be arsed to muck in and score a few. I feel really sorry for the lad. You're not mugging me off that easily

7:19pm Sun 29 Dec 13

Ralph Jones says...

I,m sorry if we are to be a top class club you have to have a top class leader, and also get rid of the high priced garbage players that are carried from week to week,we had a chance to move up on the leaders and blew it at home, lets start the new year with a new leader Makay is available so why not go for him, Bowyer is not good enough he is always making excuses for is players instead of reading the riot act after performances like this.
I,m sorry if we are to be a top class club you have to have a top class leader, and also get rid of the high priced garbage players that are carried from week to week,we had a chance to move up on the leaders and blew it at home, lets start the new year with a new leader Makay is available so why not go for him, Bowyer is not good enough he is always making excuses for is players instead of reading the riot act after performances like this. Ralph Jones

7:25pm Sun 29 Dec 13

Riverside 7 says...

The LT report mentions our longest unbeaten run of the season - it was just 4 games - that to me says it all.
After 1 point out of 6 from 2 home games we can forget all promotion ambitions. We are simply not good enough.

Before the game a big groan went around the pub when the team was anounced.
Once again 2 holding players selected by GB for a home match, and both possess zero creativity.
Once again Cairney was wasted being played out wide.
Once again we started the game too slowly and after around 1/2 hour we were 0 - 3 down to an average Championship side.

Perhaps the scoreline flattered Birmingham but how many times have I said on this forum that we start games far too slowly and only step up the pace after a rollicking at half time.
Good managers motivate their players before the start of a game so their teams are not playing catch up.

Perhaps the keeper was at fault for one or maybe two goals but their keeper did not have a to make a decent save in the first half.
It is the same every week.

Our full backs are not getting forward in support, we should have thrown either Hanley or Dann up front in the last 10 minutes in an attempt to salvage something (we had nothing to lose), Marshall had the beating of his fullback but was taken off.
What a shambles.

I think GB has signed a total of 12 players (including 3 on loan) so it is his team. There can be no more excuses.

But I am sure some will say - Never mind - remember where we have come from!
The LT report mentions our longest unbeaten run of the season - it was just 4 games - that to me says it all. After 1 point out of 6 from 2 home games we can forget all promotion ambitions. We are simply not good enough. Before the game a big groan went around the pub when the team was anounced. Once again 2 holding players selected by GB for a home match, and both possess zero creativity. Once again Cairney was wasted being played out wide. Once again we started the game too slowly and after around 1/2 hour we were 0 - 3 down to an average Championship side. Perhaps the scoreline flattered Birmingham but how many times have I said on this forum that we start games far too slowly and only step up the pace after a rollicking at half time. Good managers motivate their players before the start of a game so their teams are not playing catch up. Perhaps the keeper was at fault for one or maybe two goals but their keeper did not have a to make a decent save in the first half. It is the same every week. Our full backs are not getting forward in support, we should have thrown either Hanley or Dann up front in the last 10 minutes in an attempt to salvage something (we had nothing to lose), Marshall had the beating of his fullback but was taken off. What a shambles. I think GB has signed a total of 12 players (including 3 on loan) so it is his team. There can be no more excuses. But I am sure some will say - Never mind - remember where we have come from! Riverside 7

7:25pm Sun 29 Dec 13

roversammo says...

We were the better side both halves and I enjoyed some of our attacking play, but silly mistakes are getting beyond a joke now. Defending for the first was amateur, the second no one closed him down and the third was just abysmal. Why did we try to play it through the middle all first half when it obviously wasn't working? Rhodes, as well as he did, should have buried that first half chance. Second half we got it out to Marshall and looked really dangerous but it was too little too late, GB needs to keep cairney in the middle. Play offs are unlikely now, plus I don't think no plan b bowyer would deal with the pressure if we did. Poor.
We were the better side both halves and I enjoyed some of our attacking play, but silly mistakes are getting beyond a joke now. Defending for the first was amateur, the second no one closed him down and the third was just abysmal. Why did we try to play it through the middle all first half when it obviously wasn't working? Rhodes, as well as he did, should have buried that first half chance. Second half we got it out to Marshall and looked really dangerous but it was too little too late, GB needs to keep cairney in the middle. Play offs are unlikely now, plus I don't think no plan b bowyer would deal with the pressure if we did. Poor. roversammo

7:25pm Sun 29 Dec 13

Rich Riley says...

cboyer wrote:
scott dann is a disgrace the way he gripped our own keeper for making 1 mistake! dann makes more mistakes than anybody and has lost us loads of points wasnt a bad performance to be honest if we are all honest here we didnt deserve to get beat today
Is this right? I missed it!
[quote][p][bold]cboyer[/bold] wrote: scott dann is a disgrace the way he gripped our own keeper for making 1 mistake! dann makes more mistakes than anybody and has lost us loads of points wasnt a bad performance to be honest if we are all honest here we didnt deserve to get beat today[/p][/quote]Is this right? I missed it! Rich Riley

7:34pm Sun 29 Dec 13

French Rover says...

baldie wrote:
We're exactly halfway through the season.
We're exactly halfway in the table.
We're 13 points from automatic promotion.
We're 12 points above relegation.
We couldn't be more in the middle.
The question has to be,do Venkys stick or twist?
If they go for a new manager,then it has to be worth it.
If they stick with Bowyer then he has to start going for wins.They've proved today that they can put teams under pressure.
I'll back whoever is in charge as always,so come on Gary.
You've done an admirable job in steadying the ship,you now have to go for it.
I understand your points Baldie but I would have taken this middle position at the start of this season and would still take this at the end of the season too...mid table medocrity is a nice safe place to be compared to where we were the last two years.

As for Bowyer getting more out of this squad, I honestly dont think there is much more to get out of them. As for sacking GB and getting a new manager, well it doesnt make much sense really, as it doesn`t really matter who the manager is much, as this is probably the strongest squad we will have at the Rovers for some considerable time now - and it may actually get weaker if Rhodes goes and we dont sign Cairney.

The Venkys may have the thoughts that mid-table - with some wins and some losses and some draws - is much better than the relegation and humiliating anti Venky campaigns they experienced up till this season. They may see no need to put much more money into the club at least until we see how this season and the next season go - esp with the new rulings.

Two wins and six possible points not taken over Christmas, is so very disappointing for all Rovers fans, but we will come again and knowing how this silly game works we will probably go and win at Leeds!

Bon Annee to you and yours!
[quote][p][bold]baldie[/bold] wrote: We're exactly halfway through the season. We're exactly halfway in the table. We're 13 points from automatic promotion. We're 12 points above relegation. We couldn't be more in the middle. The question has to be,do Venkys stick or twist? If they go for a new manager,then it has to be worth it. If they stick with Bowyer then he has to start going for wins.They've proved today that they can put teams under pressure. I'll back whoever is in charge as always,so come on Gary. You've done an admirable job in steadying the ship,you now have to go for it.[/p][/quote]I understand your points Baldie but I would have taken this middle position at the start of this season and would still take this at the end of the season too...mid table medocrity is a nice safe place to be compared to where we were the last two years. As for Bowyer getting more out of this squad, I honestly dont think there is much more to get out of them. As for sacking GB and getting a new manager, well it doesnt make much sense really, as it doesn`t really matter who the manager is much, as this is probably the strongest squad we will have at the Rovers for some considerable time now - and it may actually get weaker if Rhodes goes and we dont sign Cairney. The Venkys may have the thoughts that mid-table - with some wins and some losses and some draws - is much better than the relegation and humiliating anti Venky campaigns they experienced up till this season. They may see no need to put much more money into the club at least until we see how this season and the next season go - esp with the new rulings. Two wins and six possible points not taken over Christmas, is so very disappointing for all Rovers fans, but we will come again and knowing how this silly game works we will probably go and win at Leeds! Bon Annee to you and yours! French Rover

7:34pm Sun 29 Dec 13

You're not mugging me off that easily says...

Ralph Jones wrote:
I,m sorry if we are to be a top class club you have to have a top class leader, and also get rid of the high priced garbage players that are carried from week to week,we had a chance to move up on the leaders and blew it at home, lets start the new year with a new leader Makay is available so why not go for him, Bowyer is not good enough he is always making excuses for is players instead of reading the riot act after performances like this.
Ralph, think about it. Mackay has left a club owned and run by a deluded bloke who insisted on interfering with the history of a well established Premier league club and has no idea whatsoever about anything to do with football who sacked a manager that oversaw the most successful period in the clubs recent history.

Who runs Blackburn ? Would he really want to come and take charge?
[quote][p][bold]Ralph Jones[/bold] wrote: I,m sorry if we are to be a top class club you have to have a top class leader, and also get rid of the high priced garbage players that are carried from week to week,we had a chance to move up on the leaders and blew it at home, lets start the new year with a new leader Makay is available so why not go for him, Bowyer is not good enough he is always making excuses for is players instead of reading the riot act after performances like this.[/p][/quote]Ralph, think about it. Mackay has left a club owned and run by a deluded bloke who insisted on interfering with the history of a well established Premier league club and has no idea whatsoever about anything to do with football who sacked a manager that oversaw the most successful period in the clubs recent history. Who runs Blackburn ? Would he really want to come and take charge? You're not mugging me off that easily

7:36pm Sun 29 Dec 13

crankitup says...

Gary, Gary, Gary....if you think going down three goals in the first 30 min isn't an indication of a team collapsing you really need to give your head a wobble.

yes the lads (JR) did good to pull two goals back but from a three goal deficit it was never going to be our day...

that's 1 point from a doable 6 points and it's not good enough by far Gary...you are just not doing your job mate....lets look at the facts according to you....

we have a good enough squad.
there's a good feeling around the club.
we're good enough to win promotion.
you have the backing of the chicken farmers.
you have brought in players that you wanted.

now what else do you need Gary?....i predicted a 2-1 score in favor of Brum...but when i witnessed us go three down before half time, i just thought it was going to be a cricket score...

so i wonder what the stay positive posse will make of this score....two teams in a lower league position than us....both at home and one point taken.....well lads? this good enough for you?, is this the type of form that will get us promoted?.....i think not.

look at the scoring rate of the lads....if it wasn't for JR we'd be fighting to stay in this league....

i said earlier Gary...give us something to shout about and we will.....the boo's i heard were deserved.....a score of 3-2 was not enough and too little too late.

roll on tomorrow for the excuses.....man up Gary...you are not the man for the job....a good assistant but no manager....
Gary, Gary, Gary....if you think going down three goals in the first 30 min isn't an indication of a team collapsing you really need to give your head a wobble. yes the lads (JR) did good to pull two goals back but from a three goal deficit it was never going to be our day... that's 1 point from a doable 6 points and it's not good enough by far Gary...you are just not doing your job mate....lets look at the facts according to you.... we have a good enough squad. there's a good feeling around the club. we're good enough to win promotion. you have the backing of the chicken farmers. you have brought in players that you wanted. now what else do you need Gary?....i predicted a 2-1 score in favor of Brum...but when i witnessed us go three down before half time, i just thought it was going to be a cricket score... so i wonder what the stay positive posse will make of this score....two teams in a lower league position than us....both at home and one point taken.....well lads? this good enough for you?, is this the type of form that will get us promoted?.....i think not. look at the scoring rate of the lads....if it wasn't for JR we'd be fighting to stay in this league.... i said earlier Gary...give us something to shout about and we will.....the boo's i heard were deserved.....a score of 3-2 was not enough and too little too late. roll on tomorrow for the excuses.....man up Gary...you are not the man for the job....a good assistant but no manager.... crankitup

7:40pm Sun 29 Dec 13

A Rover 45 years and over says...

If Gary even needed proof that unless he puts muscle and bite into the forward line he will get no where and we have been saying this all season.
First half all pretty passing and no umph to disturb the Birmingham back 4 and got caught out too often when we sent the big boys up for set pieces because we never have any height or power in the forward line. Having said that we did miss a couple of golden opportunities.
Second half a totally different story, Gestede comes on and demonstrates how to cause the opposition back four lots of problems with his height and power. I would have liked to see Taylor come on with him as he causes defences lots of problems with his energy and aggression thats makes him a complete pest to oppostion defences and he was missed today. Both these players should have been on from the first whistle for me.
Rhodes, Gestede and Taylor should be in the forward line every week if we are to match other Championship forward lines with energy, power and aggression. The rest of the forward line can be rotated to suite the opposition If I can remember correctly Best was playing when we last went on a scoring spree.Come on Gary get your finger out with team selection as your clean sheet philosophy did not work today.
If Gary even needed proof that unless he puts muscle and bite into the forward line he will get no where and we have been saying this all season. First half all pretty passing and no umph to disturb the Birmingham back 4 and got caught out too often when we sent the big boys up for set pieces because we never have any height or power in the forward line. Having said that we did miss a couple of golden opportunities. Second half a totally different story, Gestede comes on and demonstrates how to cause the opposition back four lots of problems with his height and power. I would have liked to see Taylor come on with him as he causes defences lots of problems with his energy and aggression thats makes him a complete pest to oppostion defences and he was missed today. Both these players should have been on from the first whistle for me. Rhodes, Gestede and Taylor should be in the forward line every week if we are to match other Championship forward lines with energy, power and aggression. The rest of the forward line can be rotated to suite the opposition If I can remember correctly Best was playing when we last went on a scoring spree.Come on Gary get your finger out with team selection as your clean sheet philosophy did not work today. A Rover 45 years and over

7:43pm Sun 29 Dec 13

Bazzer says...

Scott Dann...disgrace with regards to Simon Eastwood today. And those who bay for Reuben "rabona" Rochina? Do us a favour - sell him to a circus!
We will play a lot worse and win though....
Scott Dann...disgrace with regards to Simon Eastwood today. And those who bay for Reuben "rabona" Rochina? Do us a favour - sell him to a circus! We will play a lot worse and win though.... Bazzer

7:44pm Sun 29 Dec 13

Manuel Hung says...

You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
Ralph Jones wrote:
I,m sorry if we are to be a top class club you have to have a top class leader, and also get rid of the high priced garbage players that are carried from week to week,we had a chance to move up on the leaders and blew it at home, lets start the new year with a new leader Makay is available so why not go for him, Bowyer is not good enough he is always making excuses for is players instead of reading the riot act after performances like this.
Ralph, think about it. Mackay has left a club owned and run by a deluded bloke who insisted on interfering with the history of a well established Premier league club and has no idea whatsoever about anything to do with football who sacked a manager that oversaw the most successful period in the clubs recent history.

Who runs Blackburn ? Would he really want to come and take charge?
Would ANYONE want to come in and take charge of Shambles FC?

That's why they had to promote from within and put the bib & cone man at the helm.
[quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ralph Jones[/bold] wrote: I,m sorry if we are to be a top class club you have to have a top class leader, and also get rid of the high priced garbage players that are carried from week to week,we had a chance to move up on the leaders and blew it at home, lets start the new year with a new leader Makay is available so why not go for him, Bowyer is not good enough he is always making excuses for is players instead of reading the riot act after performances like this.[/p][/quote]Ralph, think about it. Mackay has left a club owned and run by a deluded bloke who insisted on interfering with the history of a well established Premier league club and has no idea whatsoever about anything to do with football who sacked a manager that oversaw the most successful period in the clubs recent history. Who runs Blackburn ? Would he really want to come and take charge?[/p][/quote]Would ANYONE want to come in and take charge of Shambles FC? That's why they had to promote from within and put the bib & cone man at the helm. Manuel Hung

7:48pm Sun 29 Dec 13

MattNewcastle says...

Utter Shambles

Team GB all out of their depth as coaches
GB out of his depth as a manager

The two main reasons why things cannot go on.

Why?
Appalling signings by GB - Cairney being the only exception .

Lack of a true midfield combination - Goodness knows how many combinations GB has tried.

Total lack of Attack / Support in 4 4 1 1 Judge / Taylor / Best / Rochina all not up to it - All lack technical ability at shooting and heading a ball. We have missed at least 10 - 15 goals this season so far due to their lack of finishing / technical ability. They are not top level championship players

Lowes strike to beat Middlesbrough is something he will probably never replicate.

Not one Goalkeeper of quality - Eastwood from Portsmouth for goodness sake with his goalkeeping coach - How dubious is that?

Just watched Given play out of his skin in two games for Boro which have helped them win their past two games and my prediction for a top 6 finish.

GB total lack of tactical acumen

GBs total lack of judgement with replacements

GBs total lack of judgement with buys

I could go on.

Above points sufficient to point put why GB has to go

Total Shambles
Utter Shambles Team GB all out of their depth as coaches GB out of his depth as a manager The two main reasons why things cannot go on. Why? Appalling signings by GB - Cairney being the only exception . Lack of a true midfield combination - Goodness knows how many combinations GB has tried. Total lack of Attack / Support in 4 4 1 1 Judge / Taylor / Best / Rochina all not up to it - All lack technical ability at shooting and heading a ball. We have missed at least 10 - 15 goals this season so far due to their lack of finishing / technical ability. They are not top level championship players Lowes strike to beat Middlesbrough is something he will probably never replicate. Not one Goalkeeper of quality - Eastwood from Portsmouth for goodness sake with his goalkeeping coach - How dubious is that? Just watched Given play out of his skin in two games for Boro which have helped them win their past two games and my prediction for a top 6 finish. GB total lack of tactical acumen GBs total lack of judgement with replacements GBs total lack of judgement with buys I could go on. Above points sufficient to point put why GB has to go Total Shambles MattNewcastle

7:49pm Sun 29 Dec 13

FilWil53 says...

cboyer wrote:
scott dann is a disgrace the way he gripped our own keeper for making 1 mistake! dann makes more mistakes than anybody and has lost us loads of points wasnt a bad performance to be honest if we are all honest here we didnt deserve to get beat today
Absolutely agree! Dann seems to have forgotten his mix-up with Kean in the Ipswich game, which led to him losing his place. Eastwood does hang back but the defence should know that. Shameful of Dann to do that in front if the home fans.

Otherwise, an exciting game today, especially after that awful display v Wednesday. Bowyer isn't the man for the job though in my opinion. I don't agree with 'Frenchie' when he says it doesn't matter who the manager is. Ask any Derby fan!

We should play with today's intensity in all home games and at least the fans will have something to get excited about. I still think the play-offs are a possibility but need to be more consistent. COYB's!
[quote][p][bold]cboyer[/bold] wrote: scott dann is a disgrace the way he gripped our own keeper for making 1 mistake! dann makes more mistakes than anybody and has lost us loads of points wasnt a bad performance to be honest if we are all honest here we didnt deserve to get beat today[/p][/quote]Absolutely agree! Dann seems to have forgotten his mix-up with Kean in the Ipswich game, which led to him losing his place. Eastwood does hang back but the defence should know that. Shameful of Dann to do that in front if the home fans. Otherwise, an exciting game today, especially after that awful display v Wednesday. Bowyer isn't the man for the job though in my opinion. I don't agree with 'Frenchie' when he says it doesn't matter who the manager is. Ask any Derby fan! We should play with today's intensity in all home games and at least the fans will have something to get excited about. I still think the play-offs are a possibility but need to be more consistent. COYB's! FilWil53

7:53pm Sun 29 Dec 13

crankitup says...

December L D W W D L
November W D L W
October D L L W
September W D L D
August W W L L D

do the maths yourself...23 games...8 wins...7 draws...8 losses.

and this form is going to get us promoted....you're having a laugh Gary and Simon G...the only thing looking up at our club are our fans....at the teams that are doing well.
December L D W W D L November W D L W October D L L W September W D L D August W W L L D do the maths yourself...23 games...8 wins...7 draws...8 losses. and this form is going to get us promoted....you're having a laugh Gary and Simon G...the only thing looking up at our club are our fans....at the teams that are doing well. crankitup

7:56pm Sun 29 Dec 13

Bill Carson says...

I'm sick of this! Why does it take a 3-nil first half shambles for the team to realise that if you actually pass the ball forwards you create chances and pressure on the opposition? Week in week out we see the ball pinged from midfield to defense, sideways, back to the keeper then invariably a cross-field hoof from Scott Dann, resulting in possession lost. Why not start the game like we did in the 2nd half. When playing at home you have to attack, take the lead, then ease off and remain composed (that's how KD won the league).
The PR dept also need to stop players and managers making stupid quotes in the press before games, it's simply embarrassing!
4 from 9 with 2 at home, all to lower league sides is not good enough GB, dread to think how 4 from 12 might read?
With Hollaway & Mackay out of work, I wouldn't be surprised?!!
I'm sick of this! Why does it take a 3-nil first half shambles for the team to realise that if you actually pass the ball forwards you create chances and pressure on the opposition? Week in week out we see the ball pinged from midfield to defense, sideways, back to the keeper then invariably a cross-field hoof from Scott Dann, resulting in possession lost. Why not start the game like we did in the 2nd half. When playing at home you have to attack, take the lead, then ease off and remain composed (that's how KD won the league). The PR dept also need to stop players and managers making stupid quotes in the press before games, it's simply embarrassing! 4 from 9 with 2 at home, all to lower league sides is not good enough GB, dread to think how 4 from 12 might read? With Hollaway & Mackay out of work, I wouldn't be surprised?!! Bill Carson

8:01pm Sun 29 Dec 13

RoversSwiss says...

Riverside 7 wrote:
The LT report mentions our longest unbeaten run of the season - it was just 4 games - that to me says it all.
After 1 point out of 6 from 2 home games we can forget all promotion ambitions. We are simply not good enough.

Before the game a big groan went around the pub when the team was anounced.
Once again 2 holding players selected by GB for a home match, and both possess zero creativity.
Once again Cairney was wasted being played out wide.
Once again we started the game too slowly and after around 1/2 hour we were 0 - 3 down to an average Championship side.

Perhaps the scoreline flattered Birmingham but how many times have I said on this forum that we start games far too slowly and only step up the pace after a rollicking at half time.
Good managers motivate their players before the start of a game so their teams are not playing catch up.

Perhaps the keeper was at fault for one or maybe two goals but their keeper did not have a to make a decent save in the first half.
It is the same every week.

Our full backs are not getting forward in support, we should have thrown either Hanley or Dann up front in the last 10 minutes in an attempt to salvage something (we had nothing to lose), Marshall had the beating of his fullback but was taken off.
What a shambles.

I think GB has signed a total of 12 players (including 3 on loan) so it is his team. There can be no more excuses.

But I am sure some will say - Never mind - remember where we have come from!
Couldn't get to todays game, so can't really comment, but completely agree with the Cairney comment.

The last 20 minutes against Sheff Wednesday was a disaster. Moving Cairney wide right made our best player ineffective. He was replaced in the centre of midfield by Williamson who was dreadful and yet GB starts with the same disastrous formation.

Still supporting GB, but come on GB don't keep making the same mistakes, don't keep playing players out of position and making rubbish substitutions. Decide on your best players and play the formation that suits them best, it's not complicated.
[quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote: The LT report mentions our longest unbeaten run of the season - it was just 4 games - that to me says it all. After 1 point out of 6 from 2 home games we can forget all promotion ambitions. We are simply not good enough. Before the game a big groan went around the pub when the team was anounced. Once again 2 holding players selected by GB for a home match, and both possess zero creativity. Once again Cairney was wasted being played out wide. Once again we started the game too slowly and after around 1/2 hour we were 0 - 3 down to an average Championship side. Perhaps the scoreline flattered Birmingham but how many times have I said on this forum that we start games far too slowly and only step up the pace after a rollicking at half time. Good managers motivate their players before the start of a game so their teams are not playing catch up. Perhaps the keeper was at fault for one or maybe two goals but their keeper did not have a to make a decent save in the first half. It is the same every week. Our full backs are not getting forward in support, we should have thrown either Hanley or Dann up front in the last 10 minutes in an attempt to salvage something (we had nothing to lose), Marshall had the beating of his fullback but was taken off. What a shambles. I think GB has signed a total of 12 players (including 3 on loan) so it is his team. There can be no more excuses. But I am sure some will say - Never mind - remember where we have come from![/p][/quote]Couldn't get to todays game, so can't really comment, but completely agree with the Cairney comment. The last 20 minutes against Sheff Wednesday was a disaster. Moving Cairney wide right made our best player ineffective. He was replaced in the centre of midfield by Williamson who was dreadful and yet GB starts with the same disastrous formation. Still supporting GB, but come on GB don't keep making the same mistakes, don't keep playing players out of position and making rubbish substitutions. Decide on your best players and play the formation that suits them best, it's not complicated. RoversSwiss

8:01pm Sun 29 Dec 13

MattNewcastle says...

Utter Shambles.

Team GB all out of their depth as coaches
GB out of his depth as a manager

Two main reasons why things cannot go on.

Why?
Appalling signings by GB - Cairney being the only exception.

Lack of a true midfield combination - Goodness knows how many combinations GB has tried.

Total lack of Attack / Support player in 4 4 1 1 Judge / Taylor / Best / Rochina all not up to it - All lack technical ability at shooting and heading a ball.

We have missed at least 10 - 15 goals this season so far due to their lack of finishing / technical ability. They are not top level championship players
Lowes strike to bveat Middlesbororigh is something he will probably never replicate.

Not one Goalkeeper of quality - Eastwood from Portsmouth for goodness sake with his goalkeeping coach - How dubious is that?

Just watched Given play out of his skin in two games for Boro which have helped them win their past two games and my prediction for a top 6 finish.

GB total lack of tactical acumen.

GBs total lack of judgement with replacements.

GBs total lack of judgement with buys.

2014 Prediction

Championship side at end of season

New manager for 2014 2015 season

and yes.... we will get beat off Burnley at home

I could go on.
Utter Shambles. Team GB all out of their depth as coaches GB out of his depth as a manager Two main reasons why things cannot go on. Why? Appalling signings by GB - Cairney being the only exception. Lack of a true midfield combination - Goodness knows how many combinations GB has tried. Total lack of Attack / Support player in 4 4 1 1 Judge / Taylor / Best / Rochina all not up to it - All lack technical ability at shooting and heading a ball. We have missed at least 10 - 15 goals this season so far due to their lack of finishing / technical ability. They are not top level championship players Lowes strike to bveat Middlesbororigh is something he will probably never replicate. Not one Goalkeeper of quality - Eastwood from Portsmouth for goodness sake with his goalkeeping coach - How dubious is that? Just watched Given play out of his skin in two games for Boro which have helped them win their past two games and my prediction for a top 6 finish. GB total lack of tactical acumen. GBs total lack of judgement with replacements. GBs total lack of judgement with buys. 2014 Prediction Championship side at end of season New manager for 2014 2015 season and yes.... we will get beat off Burnley at home I could go on. MattNewcastle

8:02pm Sun 29 Dec 13

Dukes says...

Bowyer simply MUST learn from today. It seems to me that he started with the same team that finished on Wednesday as a two-fingered salute to the handful who booed at full time. Yet he was more positive in his approach.

I like Bowyer as a man but this job needs a experience manager in.
Bowyer simply MUST learn from today. It seems to me that he started with the same team that finished on Wednesday as a two-fingered salute to the handful who booed at full time. Yet he was more positive in his approach. I like Bowyer as a man but this job needs a experience manager in. Dukes

8:02pm Sun 29 Dec 13

RobH2O says...

Is GB not the solution guys? Who else is out there to come in and save the day? Does it matter who is out there because no one of any substance will pitch tent with the Rovers. Venkys, a bob-boy crowd, the mounting debts, FFP pending, the transfer embargo. What a golden nugget you are!
Is GB not the solution guys? Who else is out there to come in and save the day? Does it matter who is out there because no one of any substance will pitch tent with the Rovers. Venkys, a bob-boy crowd, the mounting debts, FFP pending, the transfer embargo. What a golden nugget you are! RobH2O

8:05pm Sun 29 Dec 13

crankitup says...

French Rover wrote:
baldie wrote:
We're exactly halfway through the season.
We're exactly halfway in the table.
We're 13 points from automatic promotion.
We're 12 points above relegation.
We couldn't be more in the middle.
The question has to be,do Venkys stick or twist?
If they go for a new manager,then it has to be worth it.
If they stick with Bowyer then he has to start going for wins.They've proved today that they can put teams under pressure.
I'll back whoever is in charge as always,so come on Gary.
You've done an admirable job in steadying the ship,you now have to go for it.
I understand your points Baldie but I would have taken this middle position at the start of this season and would still take this at the end of the season too...mid table medocrity is a nice safe place to be compared to where we were the last two years.

As for Bowyer getting more out of this squad, I honestly dont think there is much more to get out of them. As for sacking GB and getting a new manager, well it doesnt make much sense really, as it doesn`t really matter who the manager is much, as this is probably the strongest squad we will have at the Rovers for some considerable time now - and it may actually get weaker if Rhodes goes and we dont sign Cairney.

The Venkys may have the thoughts that mid-table - with some wins and some losses and some draws - is much better than the relegation and humiliating anti Venky campaigns they experienced up till this season. They may see no need to put much more money into the club at least until we see how this season and the next season go - esp with the new rulings.

Two wins and six possible points not taken over Christmas, is so very disappointing for all Rovers fans, but we will come again and knowing how this silly game works we will probably go and win at Leeds!

Bon Annee to you and yours!
i hate to be the one to tell you this mate....but cloud cuckoo land isn't real....and if it comes to it i will stand with the anti chicken farmer campaigners as i did the anti Kean campaigners....they'
ve ruined our club and made us a laughing stock, and i wouldn't pee on them if they were on fire...
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baldie[/bold] wrote: We're exactly halfway through the season. We're exactly halfway in the table. We're 13 points from automatic promotion. We're 12 points above relegation. We couldn't be more in the middle. The question has to be,do Venkys stick or twist? If they go for a new manager,then it has to be worth it. If they stick with Bowyer then he has to start going for wins.They've proved today that they can put teams under pressure. I'll back whoever is in charge as always,so come on Gary. You've done an admirable job in steadying the ship,you now have to go for it.[/p][/quote]I understand your points Baldie but I would have taken this middle position at the start of this season and would still take this at the end of the season too...mid table medocrity is a nice safe place to be compared to where we were the last two years. As for Bowyer getting more out of this squad, I honestly dont think there is much more to get out of them. As for sacking GB and getting a new manager, well it doesnt make much sense really, as it doesn`t really matter who the manager is much, as this is probably the strongest squad we will have at the Rovers for some considerable time now - and it may actually get weaker if Rhodes goes and we dont sign Cairney. The Venkys may have the thoughts that mid-table - with some wins and some losses and some draws - is much better than the relegation and humiliating anti Venky campaigns they experienced up till this season. They may see no need to put much more money into the club at least until we see how this season and the next season go - esp with the new rulings. Two wins and six possible points not taken over Christmas, is so very disappointing for all Rovers fans, but we will come again and knowing how this silly game works we will probably go and win at Leeds! Bon Annee to you and yours![/p][/quote]i hate to be the one to tell you this mate....but cloud cuckoo land isn't real....and if it comes to it i will stand with the anti chicken farmer campaigners as i did the anti Kean campaigners....they' ve ruined our club and made us a laughing stock, and i wouldn't pee on them if they were on fire... crankitup

8:12pm Sun 29 Dec 13

PatrickBateman2 says...

GB youve done a great job with this riff raff bunch of no hopers. But to give you possibly our last transfer window without our hands tied up is an absolute nightmare and it is probably too late for another manager to adequately assess our "squad" for an overhaul in such a short time. All I can now hope for is that you somehow manage to keep Rhodes and Cairney although why he would want to stay here after you play him in the f off wrong position all the time is beyond me. You are our best manager since big sam but that is not saying much.
GB youve done a great job with this riff raff bunch of no hopers. But to give you possibly our last transfer window without our hands tied up is an absolute nightmare and it is probably too late for another manager to adequately assess our "squad" for an overhaul in such a short time. All I can now hope for is that you somehow manage to keep Rhodes and Cairney although why he would want to stay here after you play him in the f off wrong position all the time is beyond me. You are our best manager since big sam but that is not saying much. PatrickBateman2

8:15pm Sun 29 Dec 13

RoversOnTheRoad says...

Disappointing last two games but still just 4 points outside the Play-Off's will we make it? Hard to say, we must get consistency.

Still on to Leeds on New Years Day, if you still need transport coach at just £12 return. http://www.brfcactio
ngroup.co.uk/away-tr
avel/leeds-united-v-
rovers/
Disappointing last two games but still just 4 points outside the Play-Off's will we make it? Hard to say, we must get consistency. Still on to Leeds on New Years Day, if you still need transport coach at just £12 return. http://www.brfcactio ngroup.co.uk/away-tr avel/leeds-united-v- rovers/ RoversOnTheRoad

8:18pm Sun 29 Dec 13

cboyer says...

FilWil53 wrote:
cboyer wrote:
scott dann is a disgrace the way he gripped our own keeper for making 1 mistake! dann makes more mistakes than anybody and has lost us loads of points wasnt a bad performance to be honest if we are all honest here we didnt deserve to get beat today
Absolutely agree! Dann seems to have forgotten his mix-up with Kean in the Ipswich game, which led to him losing his place. Eastwood does hang back but the defence should know that. Shameful of Dann to do that in front if the home fans.

Otherwise, an exciting game today, especially after that awful display v Wednesday. Bowyer isn't the man for the job though in my opinion. I don't agree with 'Frenchie' when he says it doesn't matter who the manager is. Ask any Derby fan!

We should play with today's intensity in all home games and at least the fans will have something to get excited about. I still think the play-offs are a possibility but need to be more consistent. COYB's!
i agree mate but i do think bowyer is the man for the job especially when venkys are going to be picking who the next man would be! i think we have been playing a lot better football under bowyer if we can just stopo making these silly mistakes and tighten up a bit at the back then the wins will start coming
[quote][p][bold]FilWil53[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cboyer[/bold] wrote: scott dann is a disgrace the way he gripped our own keeper for making 1 mistake! dann makes more mistakes than anybody and has lost us loads of points wasnt a bad performance to be honest if we are all honest here we didnt deserve to get beat today[/p][/quote]Absolutely agree! Dann seems to have forgotten his mix-up with Kean in the Ipswich game, which led to him losing his place. Eastwood does hang back but the defence should know that. Shameful of Dann to do that in front if the home fans. Otherwise, an exciting game today, especially after that awful display v Wednesday. Bowyer isn't the man for the job though in my opinion. I don't agree with 'Frenchie' when he says it doesn't matter who the manager is. Ask any Derby fan! We should play with today's intensity in all home games and at least the fans will have something to get excited about. I still think the play-offs are a possibility but need to be more consistent. COYB's![/p][/quote]i agree mate but i do think bowyer is the man for the job especially when venkys are going to be picking who the next man would be! i think we have been playing a lot better football under bowyer if we can just stopo making these silly mistakes and tighten up a bit at the back then the wins will start coming cboyer

8:28pm Sun 29 Dec 13

aaman1 says...

what happened to the bounce right back up brigade that was full of promise and determination back in the relegation days.
this lot will be a championship side for years to come if venkys don't dig deep and do a jack walker.money talks these days and you can buy success!!
January window coming up lets buy big!!!
what happened to the bounce right back up brigade that was full of promise and determination back in the relegation days. this lot will be a championship side for years to come if venkys don't dig deep and do a jack walker.money talks these days and you can buy success!! January window coming up lets buy big!!! aaman1

8:31pm Sun 29 Dec 13

brown cow warrior says...

French Rover wrote:
baldie wrote:
We're exactly halfway through the season.
We're exactly halfway in the table.
We're 13 points from automatic promotion.
We're 12 points above relegation.
We couldn't be more in the middle.
The question has to be,do Venkys stick or twist?
If they go for a new manager,then it has to be worth it.
If they stick with Bowyer then he has to start going for wins.They've proved today that they can put teams under pressure.
I'll back whoever is in charge as always,so come on Gary.
You've done an admirable job in steadying the ship,you now have to go for it.
I understand your points Baldie but I would have taken this middle position at the start of this season and would still take this at the end of the season too...mid table medocrity is a nice safe place to be compared to where we were the last two years.

As for Bowyer getting more out of this squad, I honestly dont think there is much more to get out of them. As for sacking GB and getting a new manager, well it doesnt make much sense really, as it doesn`t really matter who the manager is much, as this is probably the strongest squad we will have at the Rovers for some considerable time now - and it may actually get weaker if Rhodes goes and we dont sign Cairney.

The Venkys may have the thoughts that mid-table - with some wins and some losses and some draws - is much better than the relegation and humiliating anti Venky campaigns they experienced up till this season. They may see no need to put much more money into the club at least until we see how this season and the next season go - esp with the new rulings.

Two wins and six possible points not taken over Christmas, is so very disappointing for all Rovers fans, but we will come again and knowing how this silly game works we will probably go and win at Leeds!

Bon Annee to you and yours!
Happy clappin' again.......
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baldie[/bold] wrote: We're exactly halfway through the season. We're exactly halfway in the table. We're 13 points from automatic promotion. We're 12 points above relegation. We couldn't be more in the middle. The question has to be,do Venkys stick or twist? If they go for a new manager,then it has to be worth it. If they stick with Bowyer then he has to start going for wins.They've proved today that they can put teams under pressure. I'll back whoever is in charge as always,so come on Gary. You've done an admirable job in steadying the ship,you now have to go for it.[/p][/quote]I understand your points Baldie but I would have taken this middle position at the start of this season and would still take this at the end of the season too...mid table medocrity is a nice safe place to be compared to where we were the last two years. As for Bowyer getting more out of this squad, I honestly dont think there is much more to get out of them. As for sacking GB and getting a new manager, well it doesnt make much sense really, as it doesn`t really matter who the manager is much, as this is probably the strongest squad we will have at the Rovers for some considerable time now - and it may actually get weaker if Rhodes goes and we dont sign Cairney. The Venkys may have the thoughts that mid-table - with some wins and some losses and some draws - is much better than the relegation and humiliating anti Venky campaigns they experienced up till this season. They may see no need to put much more money into the club at least until we see how this season and the next season go - esp with the new rulings. Two wins and six possible points not taken over Christmas, is so very disappointing for all Rovers fans, but we will come again and knowing how this silly game works we will probably go and win at Leeds! Bon Annee to you and yours![/p][/quote]Happy clappin' again....... brown cow warrior

8:31pm Sun 29 Dec 13

onlyonesimongarner says...

Ian Holloway is still avialble
Ian Holloway is still avialble onlyonesimongarner

8:33pm Sun 29 Dec 13

onlyonesimongarner says...

Scott Dann is a disgrace
Scott Dann is a disgrace onlyonesimongarner

8:38pm Sun 29 Dec 13

Heidenreicher says...

You're a bunch of idiots for calling for Bowyer's head, because we're not in the race for promoted. In fact, I don't think you're even real fans of the club apart from being genuine a-holes. Bowyer when first appointed said categorically no one should get their hopes up about promotion, even though it would be nice. The first season he said was about about finding stability. I haven't hounded on about lost points here, and lost points there because I'm a realist. Yes we've had bad luck. But I don't b!tch about it. I have faith in Bowyer to right our wrongs, but it takes f-ing time. But nooooooo, some of you are apparently quite the impatient ingrates. Get the f off the comments board.
You're a bunch of idiots for calling for Bowyer's head, because we're not in the race for promoted. In fact, I don't think you're even real fans of the club apart from being genuine a-holes. Bowyer when first appointed said categorically no one should get their hopes up about promotion, even though it would be nice. The first season he said was about about finding stability. I haven't hounded on about lost points here, and lost points there because I'm a realist. Yes we've had bad luck. But I don't b!tch about it. I have faith in Bowyer to right our wrongs, but it takes f-ing time. But nooooooo, some of you are apparently quite the impatient ingrates. Get the f off the comments board. Heidenreicher

8:40pm Sun 29 Dec 13

Is Eckersley playing? says...

Keep your eyes open for deck chairs moving around Blackburn area between now and the Leeds match. Oh! Half season tickets still on sale, I believe, for al Venky lovers, buy one get ten free.
Keep your eyes open for deck chairs moving around Blackburn area between now and the Leeds match. Oh! Half season tickets still on sale, I believe, for al Venky lovers, buy one get ten free. Is Eckersley playing?

8:40pm Sun 29 Dec 13

Angry From Accrington says...

baldie wrote:
We're exactly halfway through the season.
We're exactly halfway in the table.
We're 13 points from automatic promotion.
We're 12 points above relegation.
We couldn't be more in the middle.
The question has to be,do Venkys stick or twist?
If they go for a new manager,then it has to be worth it.
If they stick with Bowyer then he has to start going for wins.They've proved today that they can put teams under pressure.
I'll back whoever is in charge as always,so come on Gary.
You've done an admirable job in steadying the ship,you now have to go for it.
I'm with you baldie. It's not too late and the atmosphere in the last half hour is why we supporters put ourselves through it.
[quote][p][bold]baldie[/bold] wrote: We're exactly halfway through the season. We're exactly halfway in the table. We're 13 points from automatic promotion. We're 12 points above relegation. We couldn't be more in the middle. The question has to be,do Venkys stick or twist? If they go for a new manager,then it has to be worth it. If they stick with Bowyer then he has to start going for wins.They've proved today that they can put teams under pressure. I'll back whoever is in charge as always,so come on Gary. You've done an admirable job in steadying the ship,you now have to go for it.[/p][/quote]I'm with you baldie. It's not too late and the atmosphere in the last half hour is why we supporters put ourselves through it. Angry From Accrington

8:42pm Sun 29 Dec 13

Dickiepayshey says...

I get the impression that the team are sent out with the intention of 'not losing'.

If the first 20 mins of a game were approached like the last 20 mins of today's game then I am confident that more results would be in our favour.

Going one up 'early doors' and letting our opponents have to come from behind would make a pleasant change.

I realise that we may have to come from behind on occasions but that would be nothing new.
I get the impression that the team are sent out with the intention of 'not losing'. If the first 20 mins of a game were approached like the last 20 mins of today's game then I am confident that more results would be in our favour. Going one up 'early doors' and letting our opponents have to come from behind would make a pleasant change. I realise that we may have to come from behind on occasions but that would be nothing new. Dickiepayshey

8:44pm Sun 29 Dec 13

Manuel Hung says...

aaman1 wrote:
what happened to the bounce right back up brigade that was full of promise and determination back in the relegation days.
this lot will be a championship side for years to come if venkys don't dig deep and do a jack walker.money talks these days and you can buy success!!
January window coming up lets buy big!!!
Another delusional No Dad who seems to think the FFP rules apply to everyone else but them.

Already massively in debt and still losing £2 million every month with the Venkys having previously re financed everything they can and you STILL expect to be spending large in January?

Those days are a distant memory, get a grip.

Unbelievable!
[quote][p][bold]aaman1[/bold] wrote: what happened to the bounce right back up brigade that was full of promise and determination back in the relegation days. this lot will be a championship side for years to come if venkys don't dig deep and do a jack walker.money talks these days and you can buy success!! January window coming up lets buy big!!![/p][/quote]Another delusional No Dad who seems to think the FFP rules apply to everyone else but them. Already massively in debt and still losing £2 million every month with the Venkys having previously re financed everything they can and you STILL expect to be spending large in January? Those days are a distant memory, get a grip. Unbelievable! Manuel Hung

8:56pm Sun 29 Dec 13

A Darener says...

All those fans that called for Rochino, did it work?
All those fans that called for Rochino, did it work? A Darener

8:57pm Sun 29 Dec 13

crankitup says...

Heidenreicher wrote:
You're a bunch of idiots for calling for Bowyer's head, because we're not in the race for promoted. In fact, I don't think you're even real fans of the club apart from being genuine a-holes. Bowyer when first appointed said categorically no one should get their hopes up about promotion, even though it would be nice. The first season he said was about about finding stability. I haven't hounded on about lost points here, and lost points there because I'm a realist. Yes we've had bad luck. But I don't b!tch about it. I have faith in Bowyer to right our wrongs, but it takes f-ing time. But nooooooo, some of you are apparently quite the impatient ingrates. Get the f off the comments board.
Rubbish!!!!....GB is always going on about his squad can get to the play-offs...

it's funny how the stay positive crew were saying he's the man to take us up at the start and now they dance to a different tune.....the same people who said give Kean a chance.....

bad luck you say...three nil down in the first half goes beyond bad luck mate...it borders on incompetence.....spe
aking of A holes...take a look in the mirror mate.....really!
[quote][p][bold]Heidenreicher[/bold] wrote: You're a bunch of idiots for calling for Bowyer's head, because we're not in the race for promoted. In fact, I don't think you're even real fans of the club apart from being genuine a-holes. Bowyer when first appointed said categorically no one should get their hopes up about promotion, even though it would be nice. The first season he said was about about finding stability. I haven't hounded on about lost points here, and lost points there because I'm a realist. Yes we've had bad luck. But I don't b!tch about it. I have faith in Bowyer to right our wrongs, but it takes f-ing time. But nooooooo, some of you are apparently quite the impatient ingrates. Get the f off the comments board.[/p][/quote]Rubbish!!!!....GB is always going on about his squad can get to the play-offs... it's funny how the stay positive crew were saying he's the man to take us up at the start and now they dance to a different tune.....the same people who said give Kean a chance..... bad luck you say...three nil down in the first half goes beyond bad luck mate...it borders on incompetence.....spe aking of A holes...take a look in the mirror mate.....really! crankitup

9:06pm Sun 29 Dec 13

kazluvsrovers says...

Having read most of the comments above I can agree with some of them but whoever thinks Steve Kean should have been left in charge needs their head seeing to, don't forget first of all (like big Sam or not) he was stabbed in the back by Kean who then got us relegated out of the Premier league and into this league of hell that we are in today.
Although todays result was disappointing the second half performance was one of the best halves of football I have seen in months and no one can say the team didn't do their best to get a result, so whatever GB said at half time definitely had an affect.
I will admit if I am wrong but I still think we can make the playoffs starting with at least a point at Leeds.
I also think getting rid of Etuhu and Robinson is a must to bring down the wage bill, Venkys will not put their money into the club so GB is doing the best he can with the team he has I don't think a change of Manager will make any difference whatsoever.
Its up to us to get behind our lads and our Manager like we did at Ewood today during the second half, what an atmosphere I haven't heard the fans get behind the team like they did in the second half for ages.
Onwards and Upwards!!
Having read most of the comments above I can agree with some of them but whoever thinks Steve Kean should have been left in charge needs their head seeing to, don't forget first of all (like big Sam or not) he was stabbed in the back by Kean who then got us relegated out of the Premier league and into this league of hell that we are in today. Although todays result was disappointing the second half performance was one of the best halves of football I have seen in months and no one can say the team didn't do their best to get a result, so whatever GB said at half time definitely had an affect. I will admit if I am wrong but I still think we can make the playoffs starting with at least a point at Leeds. I also think getting rid of Etuhu and Robinson is a must to bring down the wage bill, Venkys will not put their money into the club so GB is doing the best he can with the team he has I don't think a change of Manager will make any difference whatsoever. Its up to us to get behind our lads and our Manager like we did at Ewood today during the second half, what an atmosphere I haven't heard the fans get behind the team like they did in the second half for ages. Onwards and Upwards!! kazluvsrovers

9:15pm Sun 29 Dec 13

Tom F. says...

Good old times:
- third in the Championship table after taking 14 points from the first seven matches under Steve Kean
- 31/12/11 the day Blackburn Rovers beat Manchester United 3-2, in charge Mr. Steve Kean
- the protest march against Steve Kean before kick-off, 2h later FT Rovers 4 Arsenal 3
- Rovers battle to 1-1 draw vs Liverpool, manager in charge Mr. Steve Kean
The only People WHO ve destroyed our club are the boooooooboys!
And now, we are midtable, no Chance to get into Prem L and our manager is a youth Team coach!!!!!!!
Good old times: - third in the Championship table after taking 14 points from the first seven matches under Steve Kean - 31/12/11 the day Blackburn Rovers beat Manchester United 3-2, in charge Mr. Steve Kean - the protest march against Steve Kean before kick-off, 2h later FT Rovers 4 Arsenal 3 - Rovers battle to 1-1 draw vs Liverpool, manager in charge Mr. Steve Kean The only People WHO ve destroyed our club are the boooooooboys! And now, we are midtable, no Chance to get into Prem L and our manager is a youth Team coach!!!!!!! Tom F.

9:19pm Sun 29 Dec 13

Captain Dreckley says...

Same scenario, GB gets his tactics wrong again. GB looks to shut the opposition out and then snatch a goal and sit back for a 1-0. But today Biemingham scored first, no plan b and chaos leads to 3-0 down. Why play our best central midfielder out wide? It beggars belief and at 3-0 its game over. If we keep playing this way forget the playoffs its going to be another relegation battle so something needs to be done. As for Rovers not being able to attract an established manager because of last years fiascos, well Shabby ain't here any more and surely work even with Venkys is better than no work but maybe that isn't the only solution. GB is naive tactically so why not bring in someone to help him in a technical capacity?
Same scenario, GB gets his tactics wrong again. GB looks to shut the opposition out and then snatch a goal and sit back for a 1-0. But today Biemingham scored first, no plan b and chaos leads to 3-0 down. Why play our best central midfielder out wide? It beggars belief and at 3-0 its game over. If we keep playing this way forget the playoffs its going to be another relegation battle so something needs to be done. As for Rovers not being able to attract an established manager because of last years fiascos, well Shabby ain't here any more and surely work even with Venkys is better than no work but maybe that isn't the only solution. GB is naive tactically so why not bring in someone to help him in a technical capacity? Captain Dreckley

9:22pm Sun 29 Dec 13

You're not mugging me off that easily says...

aaman1 wrote:
what happened to the bounce right back up brigade that was full of promise and determination back in the relegation days.
this lot will be a championship side for years to come if venkys don't dig deep and do a jack walker.money talks these days and you can buy success!!
January window coming up lets buy big!!!
You obviously don't know what FFP means do you?

Your attitude is sickening.
[quote][p][bold]aaman1[/bold] wrote: what happened to the bounce right back up brigade that was full of promise and determination back in the relegation days. this lot will be a championship side for years to come if venkys don't dig deep and do a jack walker.money talks these days and you can buy success!! January window coming up lets buy big!!![/p][/quote]You obviously don't know what FFP means do you? Your attitude is sickening. You're not mugging me off that easily

9:27pm Sun 29 Dec 13

baldie says...

French Rover wrote:
baldie wrote:
We're exactly halfway through the season.
We're exactly halfway in the table.
We're 13 points from automatic promotion.
We're 12 points above relegation.
We couldn't be more in the middle.
The question has to be,do Venkys stick or twist?
If they go for a new manager,then it has to be worth it.
If they stick with Bowyer then he has to start going for wins.They've proved today that they can put teams under pressure.
I'll back whoever is in charge as always,so come on Gary.
You've done an admirable job in steadying the ship,you now have to go for it.
I understand your points Baldie but I would have taken this middle position at the start of this season and would still take this at the end of the season too...mid table medocrity is a nice safe place to be compared to where we were the last two years.

As for Bowyer getting more out of this squad, I honestly dont think there is much more to get out of them. As for sacking GB and getting a new manager, well it doesnt make much sense really, as it doesn`t really matter who the manager is much, as this is probably the strongest squad we will have at the Rovers for some considerable time now - and it may actually get weaker if Rhodes goes and we dont sign Cairney.

The Venkys may have the thoughts that mid-table - with some wins and some losses and some draws - is much better than the relegation and humiliating anti Venky campaigns they experienced up till this season. They may see no need to put much more money into the club at least until we see how this season and the next season go - esp with the new rulings.

Two wins and six possible points not taken over Christmas, is so very disappointing for all Rovers fans, but we will come again and knowing how this silly game works we will probably go and win at Leeds!

Bon Annee to you and yours!
Thanks Frenchy,same to everyone over there.
I'm in no way advocating sacking GB,far from it.So frustrating ,though,that we have to go 3 0 down before we start playing.
That's what I mean,have a go at teams from the off.We're not going to go down,so why not give it a real go?
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baldie[/bold] wrote: We're exactly halfway through the season. We're exactly halfway in the table. We're 13 points from automatic promotion. We're 12 points above relegation. We couldn't be more in the middle. The question has to be,do Venkys stick or twist? If they go for a new manager,then it has to be worth it. If they stick with Bowyer then he has to start going for wins.They've proved today that they can put teams under pressure. I'll back whoever is in charge as always,so come on Gary. You've done an admirable job in steadying the ship,you now have to go for it.[/p][/quote]I understand your points Baldie but I would have taken this middle position at the start of this season and would still take this at the end of the season too...mid table medocrity is a nice safe place to be compared to where we were the last two years. As for Bowyer getting more out of this squad, I honestly dont think there is much more to get out of them. As for sacking GB and getting a new manager, well it doesnt make much sense really, as it doesn`t really matter who the manager is much, as this is probably the strongest squad we will have at the Rovers for some considerable time now - and it may actually get weaker if Rhodes goes and we dont sign Cairney. The Venkys may have the thoughts that mid-table - with some wins and some losses and some draws - is much better than the relegation and humiliating anti Venky campaigns they experienced up till this season. They may see no need to put much more money into the club at least until we see how this season and the next season go - esp with the new rulings. Two wins and six possible points not taken over Christmas, is so very disappointing for all Rovers fans, but we will come again and knowing how this silly game works we will probably go and win at Leeds! Bon Annee to you and yours![/p][/quote]Thanks Frenchy,same to everyone over there. I'm in no way advocating sacking GB,far from it.So frustrating ,though,that we have to go 3 0 down before we start playing. That's what I mean,have a go at teams from the off.We're not going to go down,so why not give it a real go? baldie

9:28pm Sun 29 Dec 13

You're not mugging me off that easily says...

Manuel Hung wrote:
aaman1 wrote:
what happened to the bounce right back up brigade that was full of promise and determination back in the relegation days.
this lot will be a championship side for years to come if venkys don't dig deep and do a jack walker.money talks these days and you can buy success!!
January window coming up lets buy big!!!
Another delusional No Dad who seems to think the FFP rules apply to everyone else but them.

Already massively in debt and still losing £2 million every month with the Venkys having previously re financed everything they can and you STILL expect to be spending large in January?

Those days are a distant memory, get a grip.

Unbelievable!
It's no surprise Manuel that delusional fcuk wits like this genuinely believe that this can happen.

Still drunk on the savings of an old Alzheimer's sufferer.

Only inside the tiny mind of a warped Shadsworth shell suit wearing soup stained no dad.
[quote][p][bold]Manuel Hung[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]aaman1[/bold] wrote: what happened to the bounce right back up brigade that was full of promise and determination back in the relegation days. this lot will be a championship side for years to come if venkys don't dig deep and do a jack walker.money talks these days and you can buy success!! January window coming up lets buy big!!![/p][/quote]Another delusional No Dad who seems to think the FFP rules apply to everyone else but them. Already massively in debt and still losing £2 million every month with the Venkys having previously re financed everything they can and you STILL expect to be spending large in January? Those days are a distant memory, get a grip. Unbelievable![/p][/quote]It's no surprise Manuel that delusional fcuk wits like this genuinely believe that this can happen. Still drunk on the savings of an old Alzheimer's sufferer. Only inside the tiny mind of a warped Shadsworth shell suit wearing soup stained no dad. You're not mugging me off that easily

9:29pm Sun 29 Dec 13

noddy57 says...

3 0 at half time says it all for me, come on lets face it Birmingham are not derby or Leicester and we are not either we are where we are because we are garbage
3 0 at half time says it all for me, come on lets face it Birmingham are not derby or Leicester and we are not either we are where we are because we are garbage noddy57

9:30pm Sun 29 Dec 13

baldie says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
baldie wrote:
We're exactly halfway through the season.
We're exactly halfway in the table.
We're 13 points from automatic promotion.
We're 12 points above relegation.
We couldn't be more in the middle.
The question has to be,do Venkys stick or twist?
If they go for a new manager,then it has to be worth it.
If they stick with Bowyer then he has to start going for wins.They've proved today that they can put teams under pressure.
I'll back whoever is in charge as always,so come on Gary.
You've done an admirable job in steadying the ship,you now have to go for it.
I'm with you baldie. It's not too late and the atmosphere in the last half hour is why we supporters put ourselves through it.
Interesting isn't it,got a point against Wednesday and got booed off.
Lost today and got clapped off.
He just needs to take the shackles off a bit.
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baldie[/bold] wrote: We're exactly halfway through the season. We're exactly halfway in the table. We're 13 points from automatic promotion. We're 12 points above relegation. We couldn't be more in the middle. The question has to be,do Venkys stick or twist? If they go for a new manager,then it has to be worth it. If they stick with Bowyer then he has to start going for wins.They've proved today that they can put teams under pressure. I'll back whoever is in charge as always,so come on Gary. You've done an admirable job in steadying the ship,you now have to go for it.[/p][/quote]I'm with you baldie. It's not too late and the atmosphere in the last half hour is why we supporters put ourselves through it.[/p][/quote]Interesting isn't it,got a point against Wednesday and got booed off. Lost today and got clapped off. He just needs to take the shackles off a bit. baldie

9:40pm Sun 29 Dec 13

leitchy says...

Let's not lose GB.....how about let's start trying to win....GB
Let's not lose GB.....how about let's start trying to win....GB leitchy

9:43pm Sun 29 Dec 13

earwego says...

Tom F. wrote:
Good old times:
- third in the Championship table after taking 14 points from the first seven matches under Steve Kean
- 31/12/11 the day Blackburn Rovers beat Manchester United 3-2, in charge Mr. Steve Kean
- the protest march against Steve Kean before kick-off, 2h later FT Rovers 4 Arsenal 3
- Rovers battle to 1-1 draw vs Liverpool, manager in charge Mr. Steve Kean
The only People WHO ve destroyed our club are the boooooooboys!
And now, we are midtable, no Chance to get into Prem L and our manager is a youth Team coach!!!!!!!
You have seemed to have forgotten all the other games that where lost. S.K along with Venkys,didn't just get a team relegated,they destroyed a Premier League team then destroyed the club. And then tin pot supporters like you come on and sing Keans praises. I think you need to get back to La-La land or Dingleville.
[quote][p][bold]Tom F.[/bold] wrote: Good old times: - third in the Championship table after taking 14 points from the first seven matches under Steve Kean - 31/12/11 the day Blackburn Rovers beat Manchester United 3-2, in charge Mr. Steve Kean - the protest march against Steve Kean before kick-off, 2h later FT Rovers 4 Arsenal 3 - Rovers battle to 1-1 draw vs Liverpool, manager in charge Mr. Steve Kean The only People WHO ve destroyed our club are the boooooooboys! And now, we are midtable, no Chance to get into Prem L and our manager is a youth Team coach!!!!!!![/p][/quote]You have seemed to have forgotten all the other games that where lost. S.K along with Venkys,didn't just get a team relegated,they destroyed a Premier League team then destroyed the club. And then tin pot supporters like you come on and sing Keans praises. I think you need to get back to La-La land or Dingleville. earwego

9:58pm Sun 29 Dec 13

Good call says...

Well, they've got it them to play well, shame they waited till it was over and done with.
Well, they've got it them to play well, shame they waited till it was over and done with. Good call

9:59pm Sun 29 Dec 13

French Rover says...

crankitup wrote:
French Rover wrote:
baldie wrote:
We're exactly halfway through the season.
We're exactly halfway in the table.
We're 13 points from automatic promotion.
We're 12 points above relegation.
We couldn't be more in the middle.
The question has to be,do Venkys stick or twist?
If they go for a new manager,then it has to be worth it.
If they stick with Bowyer then he has to start going for wins.They've proved today that they can put teams under pressure.
I'll back whoever is in charge as always,so come on Gary.
You've done an admirable job in steadying the ship,you now have to go for it.
I understand your points Baldie but I would have taken this middle position at the start of this season and would still take this at the end of the season too...mid table medocrity is a nice safe place to be compared to where we were the last two years.

As for Bowyer getting more out of this squad, I honestly dont think there is much more to get out of them. As for sacking GB and getting a new manager, well it doesnt make much sense really, as it doesn`t really matter who the manager is much, as this is probably the strongest squad we will have at the Rovers for some considerable time now - and it may actually get weaker if Rhodes goes and we dont sign Cairney.

The Venkys may have the thoughts that mid-table - with some wins and some losses and some draws - is much better than the relegation and humiliating anti Venky campaigns they experienced up till this season. They may see no need to put much more money into the club at least until we see how this season and the next season go - esp with the new rulings.

Two wins and six possible points not taken over Christmas, is so very disappointing for all Rovers fans, but we will come again and knowing how this silly game works we will probably go and win at Leeds!

Bon Annee to you and yours!
i hate to be the one to tell you this mate....but cloud cuckoo land isn't real....and if it comes to it i will stand with the anti chicken farmer campaigners as i did the anti Kean campaigners....they'

ve ruined our club and made us a laughing stock, and i wouldn't pee on them if they were on fire...
I think you may have mis-understood my post?

I wouldnt pee on them either, and I dont live in cloud cuckoo land (I live in France) and the reality is that the Rovers are a mid table club and are not likely to be in any play-offs for promotion for quite a while now.

I also think that you may need a reality check if you think anyone is going to come into Ewood anytime soon and change anything - no new owners, no new managers nor top class players coming anytime soon to join the Rovers..
Not going to happen.
This is it. Like it or leave it.
Many have already left, hope you and others can stay around we need all the supporters we can get right now...
[quote][p][bold]crankitup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baldie[/bold] wrote: We're exactly halfway through the season. We're exactly halfway in the table. We're 13 points from automatic promotion. We're 12 points above relegation. We couldn't be more in the middle. The question has to be,do Venkys stick or twist? If they go for a new manager,then it has to be worth it. If they stick with Bowyer then he has to start going for wins.They've proved today that they can put teams under pressure. I'll back whoever is in charge as always,so come on Gary. You've done an admirable job in steadying the ship,you now have to go for it.[/p][/quote]I understand your points Baldie but I would have taken this middle position at the start of this season and would still take this at the end of the season too...mid table medocrity is a nice safe place to be compared to where we were the last two years. As for Bowyer getting more out of this squad, I honestly dont think there is much more to get out of them. As for sacking GB and getting a new manager, well it doesnt make much sense really, as it doesn`t really matter who the manager is much, as this is probably the strongest squad we will have at the Rovers for some considerable time now - and it may actually get weaker if Rhodes goes and we dont sign Cairney. The Venkys may have the thoughts that mid-table - with some wins and some losses and some draws - is much better than the relegation and humiliating anti Venky campaigns they experienced up till this season. They may see no need to put much more money into the club at least until we see how this season and the next season go - esp with the new rulings. Two wins and six possible points not taken over Christmas, is so very disappointing for all Rovers fans, but we will come again and knowing how this silly game works we will probably go and win at Leeds! Bon Annee to you and yours![/p][/quote]i hate to be the one to tell you this mate....but cloud cuckoo land isn't real....and if it comes to it i will stand with the anti chicken farmer campaigners as i did the anti Kean campaigners....they' ve ruined our club and made us a laughing stock, and i wouldn't pee on them if they were on fire...[/p][/quote]I think you may have mis-understood my post? I wouldnt pee on them either, and I dont live in cloud cuckoo land (I live in France) and the reality is that the Rovers are a mid table club and are not likely to be in any play-offs for promotion for quite a while now. I also think that you may need a reality check if you think anyone is going to come into Ewood anytime soon and change anything - no new owners, no new managers nor top class players coming anytime soon to join the Rovers.. Not going to happen. This is it. Like it or leave it. Many have already left, hope you and others can stay around we need all the supporters we can get right now... French Rover

10:00pm Sun 29 Dec 13

brown cow warrior says...

'I think Birmingham might have got into our half three times during the first half and scored three times. I thought we were pretty decent first half.'
Good job they didn't get in four, five or six times then wasn't it?? Pretty decent? Pretty deluded more like.
'I think Birmingham might have got into our half three times during the first half and scored three times. I thought we were pretty decent first half.' Good job they didn't get in four, five or six times then wasn't it?? Pretty decent? Pretty deluded more like. brown cow warrior

10:03pm Sun 29 Dec 13

brown cow warrior says...

should have said......that's a paraphrased GB quote although most would probably recognise it.
should have said......that's a paraphrased GB quote although most would probably recognise it. brown cow warrior

10:26pm Sun 29 Dec 13

earwego says...

Tom F. wrote:
Good old times:
- third in the Championship table after taking 14 points from the first seven matches under Steve Kean
- 31/12/11 the day Blackburn Rovers beat Manchester United 3-2, in charge Mr. Steve Kean
- the protest march against Steve Kean before kick-off, 2h later FT Rovers 4 Arsenal 3
- Rovers battle to 1-1 draw vs Liverpool, manager in charge Mr. Steve Kean
The only People WHO ve destroyed our club are the boooooooboys!
And now, we are midtable, no Chance to get into Prem L and our manager is a youth Team coach!!!!!!!
You forgot to mention the return matches, here they are,

4/2/12 arsenal 7 Blackburn 1
2/4/12 Blackburn 0 Man Udt 2
19/4/12 Blackburn 2 Liverpool 3

The manager at the time ,was ?
[quote][p][bold]Tom F.[/bold] wrote: Good old times: - third in the Championship table after taking 14 points from the first seven matches under Steve Kean - 31/12/11 the day Blackburn Rovers beat Manchester United 3-2, in charge Mr. Steve Kean - the protest march against Steve Kean before kick-off, 2h later FT Rovers 4 Arsenal 3 - Rovers battle to 1-1 draw vs Liverpool, manager in charge Mr. Steve Kean The only People WHO ve destroyed our club are the boooooooboys! And now, we are midtable, no Chance to get into Prem L and our manager is a youth Team coach!!!!!!![/p][/quote]You forgot to mention the return matches, here they are, 4/2/12 arsenal 7 Blackburn 1 2/4/12 Blackburn 0 Man Udt 2 19/4/12 Blackburn 2 Liverpool 3 The manager at the time ,was ? earwego

10:33pm Sun 29 Dec 13

Angry From Accrington says...

A Darener wrote:
All those fans that called for Rochino, did it work?
Yes and he should have stayed on to feed the front line
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: All those fans that called for Rochino, did it work?[/p][/quote]Yes and he should have stayed on to feed the front line Angry From Accrington

10:55pm Sun 29 Dec 13

goldfinger59 says...

Not great results lately but then we are still a bit hit and miss, but the second half shows we can put a performance in. All this silly talk about getting rid of GB is ridiculous, and he is doing a fine job with a limited squad, as far as talent goes, does anyone really think this is good squad? It's average at best as shown by the position in the table, but I still think there is room for improvement especially in the consistency department.
Not great results lately but then we are still a bit hit and miss, but the second half shows we can put a performance in. All this silly talk about getting rid of GB is ridiculous, and he is doing a fine job with a limited squad, as far as talent goes, does anyone really think this is good squad? It's average at best as shown by the position in the table, but I still think there is room for improvement especially in the consistency department. goldfinger59

11:13pm Sun 29 Dec 13

owd nick says...

Not read any of the posts above, I am assuming the usual diatribe from so called Burnley fans and various ex Rovers malcontent,'s, but an honest post from someone who was actually there follows.

Rovers were awful in the first half, probably the worst performance from any Rovers team I have seen in 20 years, possibly more, no cohesion from back to front, when is GB going to realise that one up front simply doesn't work with the players we have?

Williamson, Rochina and to a lesser extent Lowe and Cairney could have been taken off at anytime during the first half.

I don't blame Eastwood for any of the goals (I haven't seen the highlights yet so might change my mind on the second), but certainly not the third, the ball was given away in midfield, yet again, and a stupid, hard hit back pass from about 10 yards left him naked for want of a better expression.

Whatever happened to the Colin Hendry "row K" school of defending?

Second half was totally different, Gestede on for Williamson was absolutely the right decision, I don't like getting at any Rovers player but this guy simply isn't worth a place on the bench, let alone starting.

Apart from a few minor scares Rovers totally bossed the second half, Marshall was exceptional, Judge did more in 20 minutes or so than Rochina did from the start, Gestede? Well we have to sign this guy.

Some excellent work from the City keeper and two late off the line clearances stopped us taking all 3 points, and from 0-3 down at half time I never though I would be saying that.

And no boo's at the end, that says so much about the second half performance.
Not read any of the posts above, I am assuming the usual diatribe from so called Burnley fans and various ex Rovers malcontent,'s, but an honest post from someone who was actually there follows. Rovers were awful in the first half, probably the worst performance from any Rovers team I have seen in 20 years, possibly more, no cohesion from back to front, when is GB going to realise that one up front simply doesn't work with the players we have? Williamson, Rochina and to a lesser extent Lowe and Cairney could have been taken off at anytime during the first half. I don't blame Eastwood for any of the goals (I haven't seen the highlights yet so might change my mind on the second), but certainly not the third, the ball was given away in midfield, yet again, and a stupid, hard hit back pass from about 10 yards left him naked for want of a better expression. Whatever happened to the Colin Hendry "row K" school of defending? Second half was totally different, Gestede on for Williamson was absolutely the right decision, I don't like getting at any Rovers player but this guy simply isn't worth a place on the bench, let alone starting. Apart from a few minor scares Rovers totally bossed the second half, Marshall was exceptional, Judge did more in 20 minutes or so than Rochina did from the start, Gestede? Well we have to sign this guy. Some excellent work from the City keeper and two late off the line clearances stopped us taking all 3 points, and from 0-3 down at half time I never though I would be saying that. And no boo's at the end, that says so much about the second half performance. owd nick

12:02am Mon 30 Dec 13

Tatts says...

Shame about Rovers' result but nice to see the Dingles slipping down the table. 2 wins out of the last 11 games - are there any Dingles who seriously believe that they're going to be promoted?
Shame about Rovers' result but nice to see the Dingles slipping down the table. 2 wins out of the last 11 games - are there any Dingles who seriously believe that they're going to be promoted? Tatts

12:05am Mon 30 Dec 13

Stone Island: says...

Stone Island: wrote:
earwego wrote:
Tom F. wrote:
Good old times:
- third in the Championship table after taking 14 points from the first seven matches under Steve Kean
- 31/12/11 the day Blackburn Rovers beat Manchester United 3-2, in charge Mr. Steve Kean
- the protest march against Steve Kean before kick-off, 2h later FT Rovers 4 Arsenal 3
- Rovers battle to 1-1 draw vs Liverpool, manager in charge Mr. Steve Kean
The only People WHO ve destroyed our club are the boooooooboys!
And now, we are midtable, no Chance to get into Prem L and our manager is a youth Team coach!!!!!!!
You forgot to mention the return matches, here they are,

4/2/12 arsenal 7 Blackburn 1
2/4/12 Blackburn 0 Man Udt 2
19/4/12 Blackburn 2 Liverpool 3

The manager at the time ,was ?
Was it that C**** Kean, by any chance?
Maybe that Tom Fool character, is one of SK's aliases? It would explain a lot of his nonsensical posts. I'm convinced that SK and his cronies were posting on here, under various pseudonyms to cause a split among the fans. A classic SK trait.

Looks like he's up to his old tricks to me. I wouldn't rule it out.
[quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]earwego[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tom F.[/bold] wrote: Good old times: - third in the Championship table after taking 14 points from the first seven matches under Steve Kean - 31/12/11 the day Blackburn Rovers beat Manchester United 3-2, in charge Mr. Steve Kean - the protest march against Steve Kean before kick-off, 2h later FT Rovers 4 Arsenal 3 - Rovers battle to 1-1 draw vs Liverpool, manager in charge Mr. Steve Kean The only People WHO ve destroyed our club are the boooooooboys! And now, we are midtable, no Chance to get into Prem L and our manager is a youth Team coach!!!!!!![/p][/quote]You forgot to mention the return matches, here they are, 4/2/12 arsenal 7 Blackburn 1 2/4/12 Blackburn 0 Man Udt 2 19/4/12 Blackburn 2 Liverpool 3 The manager at the time ,was ?[/p][/quote]Was it that C**** Kean, by any chance?[/p][/quote]Maybe that Tom Fool character, is one of SK's aliases? It would explain a lot of his nonsensical posts. I'm convinced that SK and his cronies were posting on here, under various pseudonyms to cause a split among the fans. A classic SK trait. Looks like he's up to his old tricks to me. I wouldn't rule it out. Stone Island:

12:10am Mon 30 Dec 13

MxMave says...

You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
Ralph Jones wrote:
I,m sorry if we are to be a top class club you have to have a top class leader, and also get rid of the high priced garbage players that are carried from week to week,we had a chance to move up on the leaders and blew it at home, lets start the new year with a new leader Makay is available so why not go for him, Bowyer is not good enough he is always making excuses for is players instead of reading the riot act after performances like this.
Ralph, think about it. Mackay has left a club owned and run by a deluded bloke who insisted on interfering with the history of a well established Premier league club and has no idea whatsoever about anything to do with football who sacked a manager that oversaw the most successful period in the clubs recent history.

Who runs Blackburn ? Would he really want to come and take charge?
How dumb are you... even for a dingle. In venkys you have owners who will keep the manager despite of relegation, fan hatred and constant losses. Lest we forget Steve Kean was never sacked, but oh, I forget, you know that because you probably posted a ton of illiterate dross on that article as you do every other Rovers article.
You are the nasty little midet in the pub with a chip on your shoulder whos all mouth and runs a mile when it kicks off.
Stick to posting on Burnley articles because 90% of people scroll past any post with your name at the top.
[quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ralph Jones[/bold] wrote: I,m sorry if we are to be a top class club you have to have a top class leader, and also get rid of the high priced garbage players that are carried from week to week,we had a chance to move up on the leaders and blew it at home, lets start the new year with a new leader Makay is available so why not go for him, Bowyer is not good enough he is always making excuses for is players instead of reading the riot act after performances like this.[/p][/quote]Ralph, think about it. Mackay has left a club owned and run by a deluded bloke who insisted on interfering with the history of a well established Premier league club and has no idea whatsoever about anything to do with football who sacked a manager that oversaw the most successful period in the clubs recent history. Who runs Blackburn ? Would he really want to come and take charge?[/p][/quote]How dumb are you... even for a dingle. In venkys you have owners who will keep the manager despite of relegation, fan hatred and constant losses. Lest we forget Steve Kean was never sacked, but oh, I forget, you know that because you probably posted a ton of illiterate dross on that article as you do every other Rovers article. You are the nasty little midet in the pub with a chip on your shoulder whos all mouth and runs a mile when it kicks off. Stick to posting on Burnley articles because 90% of people scroll past any post with your name at the top. MxMave

12:14am Mon 30 Dec 13

MxMave says...

Stone Island: wrote:
Stone Island: wrote:
earwego wrote:
Tom F. wrote:
Good old times:
- third in the Championship table after taking 14 points from the first seven matches under Steve Kean
- 31/12/11 the day Blackburn Rovers beat Manchester United 3-2, in charge Mr. Steve Kean
- the protest march against Steve Kean before kick-off, 2h later FT Rovers 4 Arsenal 3
- Rovers battle to 1-1 draw vs Liverpool, manager in charge Mr. Steve Kean
The only People WHO ve destroyed our club are the boooooooboys!
And now, we are midtable, no Chance to get into Prem L and our manager is a youth Team coach!!!!!!!
You forgot to mention the return matches, here they are,

4/2/12 arsenal 7 Blackburn 1
2/4/12 Blackburn 0 Man Udt 2
19/4/12 Blackburn 2 Liverpool 3

The manager at the time ,was ?
Was it that C**** Kean, by any chance?
Maybe that Tom Fool character, is one of SK's aliases? It would explain a lot of his nonsensical posts. I'm convinced that SK and his cronies were posting on here, under various pseudonyms to cause a split among the fans. A classic SK trait.

Looks like he's up to his old tricks to me. I wouldn't rule it out.
No hes just another dingle who pretends to support rovers to try and get people to read his posts.

Tom F
Mug
Venkys something or other

All burnley fans. Just scroll past and save your brain the trouble.
[quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]earwego[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tom F.[/bold] wrote: Good old times: - third in the Championship table after taking 14 points from the first seven matches under Steve Kean - 31/12/11 the day Blackburn Rovers beat Manchester United 3-2, in charge Mr. Steve Kean - the protest march against Steve Kean before kick-off, 2h later FT Rovers 4 Arsenal 3 - Rovers battle to 1-1 draw vs Liverpool, manager in charge Mr. Steve Kean The only People WHO ve destroyed our club are the boooooooboys! And now, we are midtable, no Chance to get into Prem L and our manager is a youth Team coach!!!!!!![/p][/quote]You forgot to mention the return matches, here they are, 4/2/12 arsenal 7 Blackburn 1 2/4/12 Blackburn 0 Man Udt 2 19/4/12 Blackburn 2 Liverpool 3 The manager at the time ,was ?[/p][/quote]Was it that C**** Kean, by any chance?[/p][/quote]Maybe that Tom Fool character, is one of SK's aliases? It would explain a lot of his nonsensical posts. I'm convinced that SK and his cronies were posting on here, under various pseudonyms to cause a split among the fans. A classic SK trait. Looks like he's up to his old tricks to me. I wouldn't rule it out.[/p][/quote]No hes just another dingle who pretends to support rovers to try and get people to read his posts. Tom F Mug Venkys something or other All burnley fans. Just scroll past and save your brain the trouble. MxMave

12:18am Mon 30 Dec 13

MxMave says...

owd nick wrote:
Not read any of the posts above, I am assuming the usual diatribe from so called Burnley fans and various ex Rovers malcontent,'s, but an honest post from someone who was actually there follows.

Rovers were awful in the first half, probably the worst performance from any Rovers team I have seen in 20 years, possibly more, no cohesion from back to front, when is GB going to realise that one up front simply doesn't work with the players we have?

Williamson, Rochina and to a lesser extent Lowe and Cairney could have been taken off at anytime during the first half.

I don't blame Eastwood for any of the goals (I haven't seen the highlights yet so might change my mind on the second), but certainly not the third, the ball was given away in midfield, yet again, and a stupid, hard hit back pass from about 10 yards left him naked for want of a better expression.

Whatever happened to the Colin Hendry "row K" school of defending?

Second half was totally different, Gestede on for Williamson was absolutely the right decision, I don't like getting at any Rovers player but this guy simply isn't worth a place on the bench, let alone starting.

Apart from a few minor scares Rovers totally bossed the second half, Marshall was exceptional, Judge did more in 20 minutes or so than Rochina did from the start, Gestede? Well we have to sign this guy.

Some excellent work from the City keeper and two late off the line clearances stopped us taking all 3 points, and from 0-3 down at half time I never though I would be saying that.

And no boo's at the end, that says so much about the second half performance.
You cant judge the second half performance as though that was the whole story. At 3-0 up every club sits back for the win. If we played again tomorrow they'd still hammer us.
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: Not read any of the posts above, I am assuming the usual diatribe from so called Burnley fans and various ex Rovers malcontent,'s, but an honest post from someone who was actually there follows. Rovers were awful in the first half, probably the worst performance from any Rovers team I have seen in 20 years, possibly more, no cohesion from back to front, when is GB going to realise that one up front simply doesn't work with the players we have? Williamson, Rochina and to a lesser extent Lowe and Cairney could have been taken off at anytime during the first half. I don't blame Eastwood for any of the goals (I haven't seen the highlights yet so might change my mind on the second), but certainly not the third, the ball was given away in midfield, yet again, and a stupid, hard hit back pass from about 10 yards left him naked for want of a better expression. Whatever happened to the Colin Hendry "row K" school of defending? Second half was totally different, Gestede on for Williamson was absolutely the right decision, I don't like getting at any Rovers player but this guy simply isn't worth a place on the bench, let alone starting. Apart from a few minor scares Rovers totally bossed the second half, Marshall was exceptional, Judge did more in 20 minutes or so than Rochina did from the start, Gestede? Well we have to sign this guy. Some excellent work from the City keeper and two late off the line clearances stopped us taking all 3 points, and from 0-3 down at half time I never though I would be saying that. And no boo's at the end, that says so much about the second half performance.[/p][/quote]You cant judge the second half performance as though that was the whole story. At 3-0 up every club sits back for the win. If we played again tomorrow they'd still hammer us. MxMave

12:21am Mon 30 Dec 13

Wild Rover says...

owd nick wrote:
Not read any of the posts above, I am assuming the usual diatribe from so called Burnley fans and various ex Rovers malcontent,'s, but an honest post from someone who was actually there follows.

Rovers were awful in the first half, probably the worst performance from any Rovers team I have seen in 20 years, possibly more, no cohesion from back to front, when is GB going to realise that one up front simply doesn't work with the players we have?

Williamson, Rochina and to a lesser extent Lowe and Cairney could have been taken off at anytime during the first half.

I don't blame Eastwood for any of the goals (I haven't seen the highlights yet so might change my mind on the second), but certainly not the third, the ball was given away in midfield, yet again, and a stupid, hard hit back pass from about 10 yards left him naked for want of a better expression.

Whatever happened to the Colin Hendry "row K" school of defending?

Second half was totally different, Gestede on for Williamson was absolutely the right decision, I don't like getting at any Rovers player but this guy simply isn't worth a place on the bench, let alone starting.

Apart from a few minor scares Rovers totally bossed the second half, Marshall was exceptional, Judge did more in 20 minutes or so than Rochina did from the start, Gestede? Well we have to sign this guy.

Some excellent work from the City keeper and two late off the line clearances stopped us taking all 3 points, and from 0-3 down at half time I never though I would be saying that.

And no boo's at the end, that says so much about the second half performance.
Pretty much agree there Nick, we both saw the same game, unlike the troll fest commenters above
As to the GB has no tactical nous comments, today was about players not tactics and they made the errors not the manager.
Somehow that second half felt like a win, I have never left the ground so happy after a defeat. We need that atmosphere every week
Disappointed not to get 6 points this week, yes. Bowyer out? No!
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: Not read any of the posts above, I am assuming the usual diatribe from so called Burnley fans and various ex Rovers malcontent,'s, but an honest post from someone who was actually there follows. Rovers were awful in the first half, probably the worst performance from any Rovers team I have seen in 20 years, possibly more, no cohesion from back to front, when is GB going to realise that one up front simply doesn't work with the players we have? Williamson, Rochina and to a lesser extent Lowe and Cairney could have been taken off at anytime during the first half. I don't blame Eastwood for any of the goals (I haven't seen the highlights yet so might change my mind on the second), but certainly not the third, the ball was given away in midfield, yet again, and a stupid, hard hit back pass from about 10 yards left him naked for want of a better expression. Whatever happened to the Colin Hendry "row K" school of defending? Second half was totally different, Gestede on for Williamson was absolutely the right decision, I don't like getting at any Rovers player but this guy simply isn't worth a place on the bench, let alone starting. Apart from a few minor scares Rovers totally bossed the second half, Marshall was exceptional, Judge did more in 20 minutes or so than Rochina did from the start, Gestede? Well we have to sign this guy. Some excellent work from the City keeper and two late off the line clearances stopped us taking all 3 points, and from 0-3 down at half time I never though I would be saying that. And no boo's at the end, that says so much about the second half performance.[/p][/quote]Pretty much agree there Nick, we both saw the same game, unlike the troll fest commenters above As to the GB has no tactical nous comments, today was about players not tactics and they made the errors not the manager. Somehow that second half felt like a win, I have never left the ground so happy after a defeat. We need that atmosphere every week Disappointed not to get 6 points this week, yes. Bowyer out? No! Wild Rover

12:38am Mon 30 Dec 13

Melblue says...

French Rover wrote:
baldie wrote:
We're exactly halfway through the season.
We're exactly halfway in the table.
We're 13 points from automatic promotion.
We're 12 points above relegation.
We couldn't be more in the middle.
The question has to be,do Venkys stick or twist?
If they go for a new manager,then it has to be worth it.
If they stick with Bowyer then he has to start going for wins.They've proved today that they can put teams under pressure.
I'll back whoever is in charge as always,so come on Gary.
You've done an admirable job in steadying the ship,you now have to go for it.
I understand your points Baldie but I would have taken this middle position at the start of this season and would still take this at the end of the season too...mid table medocrity is a nice safe place to be compared to where we were the last two years.

As for Bowyer getting more out of this squad, I honestly dont think there is much more to get out of them. As for sacking GB and getting a new manager, well it doesnt make much sense really, as it doesn`t really matter who the manager is much, as this is probably the strongest squad we will have at the Rovers for some considerable time now - and it may actually get weaker if Rhodes goes and we dont sign Cairney.

The Venkys may have the thoughts that mid-table - with some wins and some losses and some draws - is much better than the relegation and humiliating anti Venky campaigns they experienced up till this season. They may see no need to put much more money into the club at least until we see how this season and the next season go - esp with the new rulings.

Two wins and six possible points not taken over Christmas, is so very disappointing for all Rovers fans, but we will come again and knowing how this silly game works we will probably go and win at Leeds!

Bon Annee to you and yours!
You are spot on here. The Rovers owners have no desire to do anything other than consolidate in mid-table this season and possibly longer, until they can get the high earners off the books and stem their losses. They may then get an opportunity to divest their investment without further loss of face.
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baldie[/bold] wrote: We're exactly halfway through the season. We're exactly halfway in the table. We're 13 points from automatic promotion. We're 12 points above relegation. We couldn't be more in the middle. The question has to be,do Venkys stick or twist? If they go for a new manager,then it has to be worth it. If they stick with Bowyer then he has to start going for wins.They've proved today that they can put teams under pressure. I'll back whoever is in charge as always,so come on Gary. You've done an admirable job in steadying the ship,you now have to go for it.[/p][/quote]I understand your points Baldie but I would have taken this middle position at the start of this season and would still take this at the end of the season too...mid table medocrity is a nice safe place to be compared to where we were the last two years. As for Bowyer getting more out of this squad, I honestly dont think there is much more to get out of them. As for sacking GB and getting a new manager, well it doesnt make much sense really, as it doesn`t really matter who the manager is much, as this is probably the strongest squad we will have at the Rovers for some considerable time now - and it may actually get weaker if Rhodes goes and we dont sign Cairney. The Venkys may have the thoughts that mid-table - with some wins and some losses and some draws - is much better than the relegation and humiliating anti Venky campaigns they experienced up till this season. They may see no need to put much more money into the club at least until we see how this season and the next season go - esp with the new rulings. Two wins and six possible points not taken over Christmas, is so very disappointing for all Rovers fans, but we will come again and knowing how this silly game works we will probably go and win at Leeds! Bon Annee to you and yours![/p][/quote]You are spot on here. The Rovers owners have no desire to do anything other than consolidate in mid-table this season and possibly longer, until they can get the high earners off the books and stem their losses. They may then get an opportunity to divest their investment without further loss of face. Melblue

12:45am Mon 30 Dec 13

Wild Rover says...

@ the Ruben is the Messi-ah brigade
He was directly to blame for the second goal as he allowed Novak to take the ball of him and shoot. He further contributed with his usual attempts at showboating to giving the ball away several times.
We cant afford the luxury of playing him..
@ the Ruben is the Messi-ah brigade He was directly to blame for the second goal as he allowed Novak to take the ball of him and shoot. He further contributed with his usual attempts at showboating to giving the ball away several times. We cant afford the luxury of playing him.. Wild Rover

12:48am Mon 30 Dec 13

Melblue says...

French Rover wrote:
baldie wrote:
We're exactly halfway through the season.
We're exactly halfway in the table.
We're 13 points from automatic promotion.
We're 12 points above relegation.
We couldn't be more in the middle.
The question has to be,do Venkys stick or twist?
If they go for a new manager,then it has to be worth it.
If they stick with Bowyer then he has to start going for wins.They've proved today that they can put teams under pressure.
I'll back whoever is in charge as always,so come on Gary.
You've done an admirable job in steadying the ship,you now have to go for it.
I understand your points Baldie but I would have taken this middle position at the start of this season and would still take this at the end of the season too...mid table medocrity is a nice safe place to be compared to where we were the last two years.

As for Bowyer getting more out of this squad, I honestly dont think there is much more to get out of them. As for sacking GB and getting a new manager, well it doesnt make much sense really, as it doesn`t really matter who the manager is much, as this is probably the strongest squad we will have at the Rovers for some considerable time now - and it may actually get weaker if Rhodes goes and we dont sign Cairney.

The Venkys may have the thoughts that mid-table - with some wins and some losses and some draws - is much better than the relegation and humiliating anti Venky campaigns they experienced up till this season. They may see no need to put much more money into the club at least until we see how this season and the next season go - esp with the new rulings.

Two wins and six possible points not taken over Christmas, is so very disappointing for all Rovers fans, but we will come again and knowing how this silly game works we will probably go and win at Leeds!

Bon Annee to you and yours!
Spot on with your assessment of the Venky outlook. I have heard from a reliable source with a good connection within Ewood that Bowyers' s only target this season is to maintain Championship status. Rovers are in a holding situation and looking to get on a more stable financial footing before Venky can divest its interest in the club without further loss of face. We can expect more of the same for quite a well yet.
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baldie[/bold] wrote: We're exactly halfway through the season. We're exactly halfway in the table. We're 13 points from automatic promotion. We're 12 points above relegation. We couldn't be more in the middle. The question has to be,do Venkys stick or twist? If they go for a new manager,then it has to be worth it. If they stick with Bowyer then he has to start going for wins.They've proved today that they can put teams under pressure. I'll back whoever is in charge as always,so come on Gary. You've done an admirable job in steadying the ship,you now have to go for it.[/p][/quote]I understand your points Baldie but I would have taken this middle position at the start of this season and would still take this at the end of the season too...mid table medocrity is a nice safe place to be compared to where we were the last two years. As for Bowyer getting more out of this squad, I honestly dont think there is much more to get out of them. As for sacking GB and getting a new manager, well it doesnt make much sense really, as it doesn`t really matter who the manager is much, as this is probably the strongest squad we will have at the Rovers for some considerable time now - and it may actually get weaker if Rhodes goes and we dont sign Cairney. The Venkys may have the thoughts that mid-table - with some wins and some losses and some draws - is much better than the relegation and humiliating anti Venky campaigns they experienced up till this season. They may see no need to put much more money into the club at least until we see how this season and the next season go - esp with the new rulings. Two wins and six possible points not taken over Christmas, is so very disappointing for all Rovers fans, but we will come again and knowing how this silly game works we will probably go and win at Leeds! Bon Annee to you and yours![/p][/quote]Spot on with your assessment of the Venky outlook. I have heard from a reliable source with a good connection within Ewood that Bowyers' s only target this season is to maintain Championship status. Rovers are in a holding situation and looking to get on a more stable financial footing before Venky can divest its interest in the club without further loss of face. We can expect more of the same for quite a well yet. Melblue

1:06am Mon 30 Dec 13

bluerob says...

A Darener wrote:
All those fans that called for Rochino, did it work?
Yes, we created more today than we have done for weeks !!!
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: All those fans that called for Rochino, did it work?[/p][/quote]Yes, we created more today than we have done for weeks !!! bluerob

1:09am Mon 30 Dec 13

bluerob says...

Tom F. wrote:
Good old times:
- third in the Championship table after taking 14 points from the first seven matches under Steve Kean
- 31/12/11 the day Blackburn Rovers beat Manchester United 3-2, in charge Mr. Steve Kean
- the protest march against Steve Kean before kick-off, 2h later FT Rovers 4 Arsenal 3
- Rovers battle to 1-1 draw vs Liverpool, manager in charge Mr. Steve Kean
The only People WHO ve destroyed our club are the boooooooboys!
And now, we are midtable, no Chance to get into Prem L and our manager is a youth Team coach!!!!!!!
Please don't mention that name again, it makes me fee ill.

He is one of the main reasons we are we're we are.
[quote][p][bold]Tom F.[/bold] wrote: Good old times: - third in the Championship table after taking 14 points from the first seven matches under Steve Kean - 31/12/11 the day Blackburn Rovers beat Manchester United 3-2, in charge Mr. Steve Kean - the protest march against Steve Kean before kick-off, 2h later FT Rovers 4 Arsenal 3 - Rovers battle to 1-1 draw vs Liverpool, manager in charge Mr. Steve Kean The only People WHO ve destroyed our club are the boooooooboys! And now, we are midtable, no Chance to get into Prem L and our manager is a youth Team coach!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Please don't mention that name again, it makes me fee ill. He is one of the main reasons we are we're we are. bluerob

1:27am Mon 30 Dec 13

bluerob says...

owd nick wrote:
Not read any of the posts above, I am assuming the usual diatribe from so called Burnley fans and various ex Rovers malcontent,'s, but an honest post from someone who was actually there follows.

Rovers were awful in the first half, probably the worst performance from any Rovers team I have seen in 20 years, possibly more, no cohesion from back to front, when is GB going to realise that one up front simply doesn't work with the players we have?

Williamson, Rochina and to a lesser extent Lowe and Cairney could have been taken off at anytime during the first half.

I don't blame Eastwood for any of the goals (I haven't seen the highlights yet so might change my mind on the second), but certainly not the third, the ball was given away in midfield, yet again, and a stupid, hard hit back pass from about 10 yards left him naked for want of a better expression.

Whatever happened to the Colin Hendry "row K" school of defending?

Second half was totally different, Gestede on for Williamson was absolutely the right decision, I don't like getting at any Rovers player but this guy simply isn't worth a place on the bench, let alone starting.

Apart from a few minor scares Rovers totally bossed the second half, Marshall was exceptional, Judge did more in 20 minutes or so than Rochina did from the start, Gestede? Well we have to sign this guy.

Some excellent work from the City keeper and two late off the line clearances stopped us taking all 3 points, and from 0-3 down at half time I never though I would be saying that.

And no boo's at the end, that says so much about the second half performance.
You don't blame Eastwood for any of the goals, were you at the game ??
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: Not read any of the posts above, I am assuming the usual diatribe from so called Burnley fans and various ex Rovers malcontent,'s, but an honest post from someone who was actually there follows. Rovers were awful in the first half, probably the worst performance from any Rovers team I have seen in 20 years, possibly more, no cohesion from back to front, when is GB going to realise that one up front simply doesn't work with the players we have? Williamson, Rochina and to a lesser extent Lowe and Cairney could have been taken off at anytime during the first half. I don't blame Eastwood for any of the goals (I haven't seen the highlights yet so might change my mind on the second), but certainly not the third, the ball was given away in midfield, yet again, and a stupid, hard hit back pass from about 10 yards left him naked for want of a better expression. Whatever happened to the Colin Hendry "row K" school of defending? Second half was totally different, Gestede on for Williamson was absolutely the right decision, I don't like getting at any Rovers player but this guy simply isn't worth a place on the bench, let alone starting. Apart from a few minor scares Rovers totally bossed the second half, Marshall was exceptional, Judge did more in 20 minutes or so than Rochina did from the start, Gestede? Well we have to sign this guy. Some excellent work from the City keeper and two late off the line clearances stopped us taking all 3 points, and from 0-3 down at half time I never though I would be saying that. And no boo's at the end, that says so much about the second half performance.[/p][/quote]You don't blame Eastwood for any of the goals, were you at the game ?? bluerob

6:49am Mon 30 Dec 13

MatthewCA says...

5 points lost in last 5 days is a big lost.... Otherwise we will be in 6th position to move forward to newyear.

All spoils because of some lazy effort from our players and A positive to take is a good fight back after the 3 goal HIT in the first half.

We need more commited players who can win matchs. We got some soft BOYS who is playing sweet week IN week Out with club facilities and called big players, they don't have the fighting sprit to get hold of the game and push to there limits.

All the best for a Very Good NEW YEAR 2014. Hope we will arise with the new hope. Game ON.
5 points lost in last 5 days is a big lost.... Otherwise we will be in 6th position to move forward to newyear. All spoils because of some lazy effort from our players and A positive to take is a good fight back after the 3 goal HIT in the first half. We need more commited players who can win matchs. We got some soft BOYS who is playing sweet week IN week Out with club facilities and called big players, they don't have the fighting sprit to get hold of the game and push to there limits. All the best for a Very Good NEW YEAR 2014. Hope we will arise with the new hope. Game ON. MatthewCA

8:22am Mon 30 Dec 13

razwoods78 says...

Yesterday we conceded a 30yrd wonder goal - that is not Rovers playing baldly. Eastwood was to blame for the third, but on the whole his kicking is probably his best attribute! (much better than keans anyway). The first goal was poor marking, but on the whole I agree with bowyer in that we controlled the.entire.game and.had.three.scorin
g.chances after the 90th minute! Luckily with other results our position hasn't altered much. We do.need a positive result at Leeds now though! Read comments yesterday stating "I'm embarrassed to be a Rovers fan" and "why wait till were 3 down"...well we didn't wait we had chances from the off and those of you who are embarrassed to be a fan, go and.take a seat on the eckersley sofa and listen to it on t'wireless!
Yesterday we conceded a 30yrd wonder goal - that is not Rovers playing baldly. Eastwood was to blame for the third, but on the whole his kicking is probably his best attribute! (much better than keans anyway). The first goal was poor marking, but on the whole I agree with bowyer in that we controlled the.entire.game and.had.three.scorin g.chances after the 90th minute! Luckily with other results our position hasn't altered much. We do.need a positive result at Leeds now though! Read comments yesterday stating "I'm embarrassed to be a Rovers fan" and "why wait till were 3 down"...well we didn't wait we had chances from the off and those of you who are embarrassed to be a fan, go and.take a seat on the eckersley sofa and listen to it on t'wireless! razwoods78

8:34am Mon 30 Dec 13

Harwoodstblue says...

Melblue wrote:
French Rover wrote:
baldie wrote:
We're exactly halfway through the season.
We're exactly halfway in the table.
We're 13 points from automatic promotion.
We're 12 points above relegation.
We couldn't be more in the middle.
The question has to be,do Venkys stick or twist?
If they go for a new manager,then it has to be worth it.
If they stick with Bowyer then he has to start going for wins.They've proved today that they can put teams under pressure.
I'll back whoever is in charge as always,so come on Gary.
You've done an admirable job in steadying the ship,you now have to go for it.
I understand your points Baldie but I would have taken this middle position at the start of this season and would still take this at the end of the season too...mid table medocrity is a nice safe place to be compared to where we were the last two years.

As for Bowyer getting more out of this squad, I honestly dont think there is much more to get out of them. As for sacking GB and getting a new manager, well it doesnt make much sense really, as it doesn`t really matter who the manager is much, as this is probably the strongest squad we will have at the Rovers for some considerable time now - and it may actually get weaker if Rhodes goes and we dont sign Cairney.

The Venkys may have the thoughts that mid-table - with some wins and some losses and some draws - is much better than the relegation and humiliating anti Venky campaigns they experienced up till this season. They may see no need to put much more money into the club at least until we see how this season and the next season go - esp with the new rulings.

Two wins and six possible points not taken over Christmas, is so very disappointing for all Rovers fans, but we will come again and knowing how this silly game works we will probably go and win at Leeds!

Bon Annee to you and yours!
Spot on with your assessment of the Venky outlook. I have heard from a reliable source with a good connection within Ewood that Bowyers' s only target this season is to maintain Championship status. Rovers are in a holding situation and looking to get on a more stable financial footing before Venky can divest its interest in the club without further loss of face. We can expect more of the same for quite a well yet.
I have no insider knowledge but have suspected for some time now that the 'do not lose' mentality comes before going for the win. That would explain some of Bowyer's team selections and tactics / substitutions.
As for the team, to me there's something 'not quite right' which I can't put my finger on.
If we can play like we did in the second half yesterday why can't we do it on a regular basis ? The 'new young team' needing time to gel excuse is wearing a bit thin now.
[quote][p][bold]Melblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baldie[/bold] wrote: We're exactly halfway through the season. We're exactly halfway in the table. We're 13 points from automatic promotion. We're 12 points above relegation. We couldn't be more in the middle. The question has to be,do Venkys stick or twist? If they go for a new manager,then it has to be worth it. If they stick with Bowyer then he has to start going for wins.They've proved today that they can put teams under pressure. I'll back whoever is in charge as always,so come on Gary. You've done an admirable job in steadying the ship,you now have to go for it.[/p][/quote]I understand your points Baldie but I would have taken this middle position at the start of this season and would still take this at the end of the season too...mid table medocrity is a nice safe place to be compared to where we were the last two years. As for Bowyer getting more out of this squad, I honestly dont think there is much more to get out of them. As for sacking GB and getting a new manager, well it doesnt make much sense really, as it doesn`t really matter who the manager is much, as this is probably the strongest squad we will have at the Rovers for some considerable time now - and it may actually get weaker if Rhodes goes and we dont sign Cairney. The Venkys may have the thoughts that mid-table - with some wins and some losses and some draws - is much better than the relegation and humiliating anti Venky campaigns they experienced up till this season. They may see no need to put much more money into the club at least until we see how this season and the next season go - esp with the new rulings. Two wins and six possible points not taken over Christmas, is so very disappointing for all Rovers fans, but we will come again and knowing how this silly game works we will probably go and win at Leeds! Bon Annee to you and yours![/p][/quote]Spot on with your assessment of the Venky outlook. I have heard from a reliable source with a good connection within Ewood that Bowyers' s only target this season is to maintain Championship status. Rovers are in a holding situation and looking to get on a more stable financial footing before Venky can divest its interest in the club without further loss of face. We can expect more of the same for quite a well yet.[/p][/quote]I have no insider knowledge but have suspected for some time now that the 'do not lose' mentality comes before going for the win. That would explain some of Bowyer's team selections and tactics / substitutions. As for the team, to me there's something 'not quite right' which I can't put my finger on. If we can play like we did in the second half yesterday why can't we do it on a regular basis ? The 'new young team' needing time to gel excuse is wearing a bit thin now. Harwoodstblue

8:36am Mon 30 Dec 13

Angry From Accrington says...

Wild Rover wrote:
owd nick wrote:
Not read any of the posts above, I am assuming the usual diatribe from so called Burnley fans and various ex Rovers malcontent,'s, but an honest post from someone who was actually there follows.

Rovers were awful in the first half, probably the worst performance from any Rovers team I have seen in 20 years, possibly more, no cohesion from back to front, when is GB going to realise that one up front simply doesn't work with the players we have?

Williamson, Rochina and to a lesser extent Lowe and Cairney could have been taken off at anytime during the first half.

I don't blame Eastwood for any of the goals (I haven't seen the highlights yet so might change my mind on the second), but certainly not the third, the ball was given away in midfield, yet again, and a stupid, hard hit back pass from about 10 yards left him naked for want of a better expression.

Whatever happened to the Colin Hendry "row K" school of defending?

Second half was totally different, Gestede on for Williamson was absolutely the right decision, I don't like getting at any Rovers player but this guy simply isn't worth a place on the bench, let alone starting.

Apart from a few minor scares Rovers totally bossed the second half, Marshall was exceptional, Judge did more in 20 minutes or so than Rochina did from the start, Gestede? Well we have to sign this guy.

Some excellent work from the City keeper and two late off the line clearances stopped us taking all 3 points, and from 0-3 down at half time I never though I would be saying that.

And no boo's at the end, that says so much about the second half performance.
Pretty much agree there Nick, we both saw the same game, unlike the troll fest commenters above
As to the GB has no tactical nous comments, today was about players not tactics and they made the errors not the manager.
Somehow that second half felt like a win, I have never left the ground so happy after a defeat. We need that atmosphere every week
Disappointed not to get 6 points this week, yes. Bowyer out? No!
Another thumb up from me but I suppose you would actually have to be at the game to appreciate what really happened. Two defensive disasters and one wonder goal distorted the rest of the 90 minutes. I still back us to make the playoffs.
[quote][p][bold]Wild Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: Not read any of the posts above, I am assuming the usual diatribe from so called Burnley fans and various ex Rovers malcontent,'s, but an honest post from someone who was actually there follows. Rovers were awful in the first half, probably the worst performance from any Rovers team I have seen in 20 years, possibly more, no cohesion from back to front, when is GB going to realise that one up front simply doesn't work with the players we have? Williamson, Rochina and to a lesser extent Lowe and Cairney could have been taken off at anytime during the first half. I don't blame Eastwood for any of the goals (I haven't seen the highlights yet so might change my mind on the second), but certainly not the third, the ball was given away in midfield, yet again, and a stupid, hard hit back pass from about 10 yards left him naked for want of a better expression. Whatever happened to the Colin Hendry "row K" school of defending? Second half was totally different, Gestede on for Williamson was absolutely the right decision, I don't like getting at any Rovers player but this guy simply isn't worth a place on the bench, let alone starting. Apart from a few minor scares Rovers totally bossed the second half, Marshall was exceptional, Judge did more in 20 minutes or so than Rochina did from the start, Gestede? Well we have to sign this guy. Some excellent work from the City keeper and two late off the line clearances stopped us taking all 3 points, and from 0-3 down at half time I never though I would be saying that. And no boo's at the end, that says so much about the second half performance.[/p][/quote]Pretty much agree there Nick, we both saw the same game, unlike the troll fest commenters above As to the GB has no tactical nous comments, today was about players not tactics and they made the errors not the manager. Somehow that second half felt like a win, I have never left the ground so happy after a defeat. We need that atmosphere every week Disappointed not to get 6 points this week, yes. Bowyer out? No![/p][/quote]Another thumb up from me but I suppose you would actually have to be at the game to appreciate what really happened. Two defensive disasters and one wonder goal distorted the rest of the 90 minutes. I still back us to make the playoffs. Angry From Accrington

8:41am Mon 30 Dec 13

Angry From Accrington says...

Melblue wrote:
French Rover wrote:
baldie wrote:
We're exactly halfway through the season.
We're exactly halfway in the table.
We're 13 points from automatic promotion.
We're 12 points above relegation.
We couldn't be more in the middle.
The question has to be,do Venkys stick or twist?
If they go for a new manager,then it has to be worth it.
If they stick with Bowyer then he has to start going for wins.They've proved today that they can put teams under pressure.
I'll back whoever is in charge as always,so come on Gary.
You've done an admirable job in steadying the ship,you now have to go for it.
I understand your points Baldie but I would have taken this middle position at the start of this season and would still take this at the end of the season too...mid table medocrity is a nice safe place to be compared to where we were the last two years.

As for Bowyer getting more out of this squad, I honestly dont think there is much more to get out of them. As for sacking GB and getting a new manager, well it doesnt make much sense really, as it doesn`t really matter who the manager is much, as this is probably the strongest squad we will have at the Rovers for some considerable time now - and it may actually get weaker if Rhodes goes and we dont sign Cairney.

The Venkys may have the thoughts that mid-table - with some wins and some losses and some draws - is much better than the relegation and humiliating anti Venky campaigns they experienced up till this season. They may see no need to put much more money into the club at least until we see how this season and the next season go - esp with the new rulings.

Two wins and six possible points not taken over Christmas, is so very disappointing for all Rovers fans, but we will come again and knowing how this silly game works we will probably go and win at Leeds!

Bon Annee to you and yours!
Spot on with your assessment of the Venky outlook. I have heard from a reliable source with a good connection within Ewood that Bowyers' s only target this season is to maintain Championship status. Rovers are in a holding situation and looking to get on a more stable financial footing before Venky can divest its interest in the club without further loss of face. We can expect more of the same for quite a well yet.
Bezzy mates with one of the stewards are you? Even Dullard David could have come up with that strategy.
[quote][p][bold]Melblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baldie[/bold] wrote: We're exactly halfway through the season. We're exactly halfway in the table. We're 13 points from automatic promotion. We're 12 points above relegation. We couldn't be more in the middle. The question has to be,do Venkys stick or twist? If they go for a new manager,then it has to be worth it. If they stick with Bowyer then he has to start going for wins.They've proved today that they can put teams under pressure. I'll back whoever is in charge as always,so come on Gary. You've done an admirable job in steadying the ship,you now have to go for it.[/p][/quote]I understand your points Baldie but I would have taken this middle position at the start of this season and would still take this at the end of the season too...mid table medocrity is a nice safe place to be compared to where we were the last two years. As for Bowyer getting more out of this squad, I honestly dont think there is much more to get out of them. As for sacking GB and getting a new manager, well it doesnt make much sense really, as it doesn`t really matter who the manager is much, as this is probably the strongest squad we will have at the Rovers for some considerable time now - and it may actually get weaker if Rhodes goes and we dont sign Cairney. The Venkys may have the thoughts that mid-table - with some wins and some losses and some draws - is much better than the relegation and humiliating anti Venky campaigns they experienced up till this season. They may see no need to put much more money into the club at least until we see how this season and the next season go - esp with the new rulings. Two wins and six possible points not taken over Christmas, is so very disappointing for all Rovers fans, but we will come again and knowing how this silly game works we will probably go and win at Leeds! Bon Annee to you and yours![/p][/quote]Spot on with your assessment of the Venky outlook. I have heard from a reliable source with a good connection within Ewood that Bowyers' s only target this season is to maintain Championship status. Rovers are in a holding situation and looking to get on a more stable financial footing before Venky can divest its interest in the club without further loss of face. We can expect more of the same for quite a well yet.[/p][/quote]Bezzy mates with one of the stewards are you? Even Dullard David could have come up with that strategy. Angry From Accrington

8:47am Mon 30 Dec 13

You're not mugging me off that easily says...

MxMave wrote:
You're not mugging me off that easily wrote:
Ralph Jones wrote:
I,m sorry if we are to be a top class club you have to have a top class leader, and also get rid of the high priced garbage players that are carried from week to week,we had a chance to move up on the leaders and blew it at home, lets start the new year with a new leader Makay is available so why not go for him, Bowyer is not good enough he is always making excuses for is players instead of reading the riot act after performances like this.
Ralph, think about it. Mackay has left a club owned and run by a deluded bloke who insisted on interfering with the history of a well established Premier league club and has no idea whatsoever about anything to do with football who sacked a manager that oversaw the most successful period in the clubs recent history.

Who runs Blackburn ? Would he really want to come and take charge?
How dumb are you... even for a dingle. In venkys you have owners who will keep the manager despite of relegation, fan hatred and constant losses. Lest we forget Steve Kean was never sacked, but oh, I forget, you know that because you probably posted a ton of illiterate dross on that article as you do every other Rovers article.
You are the nasty little midet in the pub with a chip on your shoulder whos all mouth and runs a mile when it kicks off.
Stick to posting on Burnley articles because 90% of people scroll past any post with your name at the top.
Well you can't resist having a little nibble can you ?

And what's a midet ? Is it something you find in your man nappies after 5 days of constant wearing?

A bit tip for you, if you're going to have a few halves of lager because you don't have school the day after stay off the comments because it turns you into an aggressive little oily tick. The pubs I go to are very up market and it never "kicks off", unlike the rancid filth holes in Mill Hill that you frequent.

Your anger at seeing the Clarets further up the food chain has to manifest its self somehow I guess. You are yet another angry no dad crying on the inside. Priceless !!!
[quote][p][bold]MxMave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're not mugging me off that easily[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ralph Jones[/bold] wrote: I,m sorry if we are to be a top class club you have to have a top class leader, and also get rid of the high priced garbage players that are carried from week to week,we had a chance to move up on the leaders and blew it at home, lets start the new year with a new leader Makay is available so why not go for him, Bowyer is not good enough he is always making excuses for is players instead of reading the riot act after performances like this.[/p][/quote]Ralph, think about it. Mackay has left a club owned and run by a deluded bloke who insisted on interfering with the history of a well established Premier league club and has no idea whatsoever about anything to do with football who sacked a manager that oversaw the most successful period in the clubs recent history. Who runs Blackburn ? Would he really want to come and take charge?[/p][/quote]How dumb are you... even for a dingle. In venkys you have owners who will keep the manager despite of relegation, fan hatred and constant losses. Lest we forget Steve Kean was never sacked, but oh, I forget, you know that because you probably posted a ton of illiterate dross on that article as you do every other Rovers article. You are the nasty little midet in the pub with a chip on your shoulder whos all mouth and runs a mile when it kicks off. Stick to posting on Burnley articles because 90% of people scroll past any post with your name at the top.[/p][/quote]Well you can't resist having a little nibble can you ? And what's a midet ? Is it something you find in your man nappies after 5 days of constant wearing? A bit tip for you, if you're going to have a few halves of lager because you don't have school the day after stay off the comments because it turns you into an aggressive little oily tick. The pubs I go to are very up market and it never "kicks off", unlike the rancid filth holes in Mill Hill that you frequent. Your anger at seeing the Clarets further up the food chain has to manifest its self somehow I guess. You are yet another angry no dad crying on the inside. Priceless !!! You're not mugging me off that easily

8:58am Mon 30 Dec 13

Angry From Accrington says...

Ralph Jones wrote:
I,m sorry if we are to be a top class club you have to have a top class leader, and also get rid of the high priced garbage players that are carried from week to week,we had a chance to move up on the leaders and blew it at home, lets start the new year with a new leader Makay is available so why not go for him, Bowyer is not good enough he is always making excuses for is players instead of reading the riot act after performances like this.
Would this be the same Malky McKay who, together with his Special Advisor, spent £50m to drag Cardiff into the relegation zone?
Or maybe we should try to lure Big Sam back before he relegates West Ham?
Ian Holloway is available but then isn't Ian Holloway always available following his predictable immature outbursts wherever he goes?
On the other hand, we could just stick with, and get behind a modest, honest grafter, who, in his first year in management has built a squad that has taken us within two wins of the playoff zone?
[quote][p][bold]Ralph Jones[/bold] wrote: I,m sorry if we are to be a top class club you have to have a top class leader, and also get rid of the high priced garbage players that are carried from week to week,we had a chance to move up on the leaders and blew it at home, lets start the new year with a new leader Makay is available so why not go for him, Bowyer is not good enough he is always making excuses for is players instead of reading the riot act after performances like this.[/p][/quote]Would this be the same Malky McKay who, together with his Special Advisor, spent £50m to drag Cardiff into the relegation zone? Or maybe we should try to lure Big Sam back before he relegates West Ham? Ian Holloway is available but then isn't Ian Holloway always available following his predictable immature outbursts wherever he goes? On the other hand, we could just stick with, and get behind a modest, honest grafter, who, in his first year in management has built a squad that has taken us within two wins of the playoff zone? Angry From Accrington

9:02am Mon 30 Dec 13

greenscreener says...

Too frustrated to post rationally last night, happy to let the usual hysterics rant and rave and the gloaters celebrate lost points.

I thought Rovers started brightly, and when the ball was played on the floor at high tempo, mainly through Rochina, openings were coming, but the finishing was very poor, their goaler didn't actually have to make one good save from 4 or 5 decent chances in the first half. At the back it was a calamity. The first really sloppy defending, real lack of concentration because we were panicked by their obvious height advantage.The second, a wonder strike caused by Rueban loosing possession in midfield and the third total misunderstanding between Hanley and Eastwood. Neither of them took control of a though ball situation, either of them could have found Row Z, but neither did. By half time the players had dug themselves a hole. Sloppy finishing, sloppy defending, just not good enough.

Second half was a much better effort with more energy, more direct positive play and the confidence that was missing earlier. Jordan Rhodes clinical finishing and looking sharper when Gestede was making life difficult for their defence, offering the kind of disruptive play CKR showed in patches last season. A second half display to be proud of, underlining that we can do it if we get the application right, but when we don't, we are still fragile.

My team selection pre match did not include Williamson or Henley, and yesterday frankly, neither was up to the game. My other negative is a return to a point I've made before, Scott Dann, you should be able to pass a ball by now. Setting aside your late airshot that could have won a point, your captaincy in the first half yesterday was not good enough, when your defence was struggling, you were loosing your head, go get a Ryan Nelson video and just watch how he coached the players around him through a game.

This is the week we should have put ourselves in the play-off positions, and we haven't, opinions seem divided on why not, you can blame some of the players, the manager, the Venkys, the fans (who were brilliant yesterday).

Obviously we are close, but what happens next, is the commitment there, do we kick on or crumble ?
Too frustrated to post rationally last night, happy to let the usual hysterics rant and rave and the gloaters celebrate lost points. I thought Rovers started brightly, and when the ball was played on the floor at high tempo, mainly through Rochina, openings were coming, but the finishing was very poor, their goaler didn't actually have to make one good save from 4 or 5 decent chances in the first half. At the back it was a calamity. The first really sloppy defending, real lack of concentration because we were panicked by their obvious height advantage.The second, a wonder strike caused by Rueban loosing possession in midfield and the third total misunderstanding between Hanley and Eastwood. Neither of them took control of a though ball situation, either of them could have found Row Z, but neither did. By half time the players had dug themselves a hole. Sloppy finishing, sloppy defending, just not good enough. Second half was a much better effort with more energy, more direct positive play and the confidence that was missing earlier. Jordan Rhodes clinical finishing and looking sharper when Gestede was making life difficult for their defence, offering the kind of disruptive play CKR showed in patches last season. A second half display to be proud of, underlining that we can do it if we get the application right, but when we don't, we are still fragile. My team selection pre match did not include Williamson or Henley, and yesterday frankly, neither was up to the game. My other negative is a return to a point I've made before, Scott Dann, you should be able to pass a ball by now. Setting aside your late airshot that could have won a point, your captaincy in the first half yesterday was not good enough, when your defence was struggling, you were loosing your head, go get a Ryan Nelson video and just watch how he coached the players around him through a game. This is the week we should have put ourselves in the play-off positions, and we haven't, opinions seem divided on why not, you can blame some of the players, the manager, the Venkys, the fans (who were brilliant yesterday). Obviously we are close, but what happens next, is the commitment there, do we kick on or crumble ? greenscreener

9:18am Mon 30 Dec 13

owd nick says...

bluerob wrote:
owd nick wrote:
Not read any of the posts above, I am assuming the usual diatribe from so called Burnley fans and various ex Rovers malcontent,'s, but an honest post from someone who was actually there follows.

Rovers were awful in the first half, probably the worst performance from any Rovers team I have seen in 20 years, possibly more, no cohesion from back to front, when is GB going to realise that one up front simply doesn't work with the players we have?

Williamson, Rochina and to a lesser extent Lowe and Cairney could have been taken off at anytime during the first half.

I don't blame Eastwood for any of the goals (I haven't seen the highlights yet so might change my mind on the second), but certainly not the third, the ball was given away in midfield, yet again, and a stupid, hard hit back pass from about 10 yards left him naked for want of a better expression.

Whatever happened to the Colin Hendry "row K" school of defending?

Second half was totally different, Gestede on for Williamson was absolutely the right decision, I don't like getting at any Rovers player but this guy simply isn't worth a place on the bench, let alone starting.

Apart from a few minor scares Rovers totally bossed the second half, Marshall was exceptional, Judge did more in 20 minutes or so than Rochina did from the start, Gestede? Well we have to sign this guy.

Some excellent work from the City keeper and two late off the line clearances stopped us taking all 3 points, and from 0-3 down at half time I never though I would be saying that.

And no boo's at the end, that says so much about the second half performance.
You don't blame Eastwood for any of the goals, were you at the game ??
Well yes I was, come hail rain or shine I have only missed about 8 games in 44 years.

And I was sober.

Just watched the highlights and I stand by what I said;

ist goal - Novak was left all alone about 10 yds out in front of goal, Eastwood had no chance at all.
2nd goal - Rochina gave the ball away in the middle of the park, Novak controlled it then blasted a great goal in from about 30 yds, my first reaction (at the game) was that Eastwood had been caught napping but seeing it again he didn't stand a chance.
3rd goal - Totally down to a disorganised and panicking defence, what was wrong with belting the ball into the Blackburn End, reorganising and defending the corner?

aka Colin Hendry "Row K" school of defending.

As the late, great Bill Shankly once said "They can't score a goal from row K".
[quote][p][bold]bluerob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: Not read any of the posts above, I am assuming the usual diatribe from so called Burnley fans and various ex Rovers malcontent,'s, but an honest post from someone who was actually there follows. Rovers were awful in the first half, probably the worst performance from any Rovers team I have seen in 20 years, possibly more, no cohesion from back to front, when is GB going to realise that one up front simply doesn't work with the players we have? Williamson, Rochina and to a lesser extent Lowe and Cairney could have been taken off at anytime during the first half. I don't blame Eastwood for any of the goals (I haven't seen the highlights yet so might change my mind on the second), but certainly not the third, the ball was given away in midfield, yet again, and a stupid, hard hit back pass from about 10 yards left him naked for want of a better expression. Whatever happened to the Colin Hendry "row K" school of defending? Second half was totally different, Gestede on for Williamson was absolutely the right decision, I don't like getting at any Rovers player but this guy simply isn't worth a place on the bench, let alone starting. Apart from a few minor scares Rovers totally bossed the second half, Marshall was exceptional, Judge did more in 20 minutes or so than Rochina did from the start, Gestede? Well we have to sign this guy. Some excellent work from the City keeper and two late off the line clearances stopped us taking all 3 points, and from 0-3 down at half time I never though I would be saying that. And no boo's at the end, that says so much about the second half performance.[/p][/quote]You don't blame Eastwood for any of the goals, were you at the game ??[/p][/quote]Well yes I was, come hail rain or shine I have only missed about 8 games in 44 years. And I was sober. Just watched the highlights and I stand by what I said; ist goal - Novak was left all alone about 10 yds out in front of goal, Eastwood had no chance at all. 2nd goal - Rochina gave the ball away in the middle of the park, Novak controlled it then blasted a great goal in from about 30 yds, my first reaction (at the game) was that Eastwood had been caught napping but seeing it again he didn't stand a chance. 3rd goal - Totally down to a disorganised and panicking defence, what was wrong with belting the ball into the Blackburn End, reorganising and defending the corner? aka Colin Hendry "Row K" school of defending. As the late, great Bill Shankly once said "They can't score a goal from row K". owd nick

9:23am Mon 30 Dec 13

greenscreener says...

MatthewCA wrote:
5 points lost in last 5 days is a big lost.... Otherwise we will be in 6th position to move forward to newyear.

All spoils because of some lazy effort from our players and A positive to take is a good fight back after the 3 goal HIT in the first half.

We need more commited players who can win matchs. We got some soft BOYS who is playing sweet week IN week Out with club facilities and called big players, they don't have the fighting sprit to get hold of the game and push to there limits.

All the best for a Very Good NEW YEAR 2014. Hope we will arise with the new hope. Game ON.
And May the Force be with you in 2014, Yoda.

I don't always understand your posts but they are entertaining and your passion for the Blues is obvious.
[quote][p][bold]MatthewCA[/bold] wrote: 5 points lost in last 5 days is a big lost.... Otherwise we will be in 6th position to move forward to newyear. All spoils because of some lazy effort from our players and A positive to take is a good fight back after the 3 goal HIT in the first half. We need more commited players who can win matchs. We got some soft BOYS who is playing sweet week IN week Out with club facilities and called big players, they don't have the fighting sprit to get hold of the game and push to there limits. All the best for a Very Good NEW YEAR 2014. Hope we will arise with the new hope. Game ON.[/p][/quote]And May the Force be with you in 2014, Yoda. I don't always understand your posts but they are entertaining and your passion for the Blues is obvious. greenscreener

9:26am Mon 30 Dec 13

BRFC75 says...

They can't score if they can't get the ball,

Row K defending just keeps giving the ball back to them.

We're half way through the season , things could be better , they could be a lot worse , just keep the ship pointed forward and a upwardly direction until end of season.

Then it will be decision time , like most reputable football clubs , don't panic , half way through the season ,we can all panic later.
They can't score if they can't get the ball, Row K defending just keeps giving the ball back to them. We're half way through the season , things could be better , they could be a lot worse , just keep the ship pointed forward and a upwardly direction until end of season. Then it will be decision time , like most reputable football clubs , don't panic , half way through the season ,we can all panic later. BRFC75

9:43am Mon 30 Dec 13

French Rover says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
Ralph Jones wrote:
I,m sorry if we are to be a top class club you have to have a top class leader, and also get rid of the high priced garbage players that are carried from week to week,we had a chance to move up on the leaders and blew it at home, lets start the new year with a new leader Makay is available so why not go for him, Bowyer is not good enough he is always making excuses for is players instead of reading the riot act after performances like this.
Would this be the same Malky McKay who, together with his Special Advisor, spent £50m to drag Cardiff into the relegation zone?
Or maybe we should try to lure Big Sam back before he relegates West Ham?
Ian Holloway is available but then isn't Ian Holloway always available following his predictable immature outbursts wherever he goes?
On the other hand, we could just stick with, and get behind a modest, honest grafter, who, in his first year in management has built a squad that has taken us within two wins of the playoff zone?
nice post mr A...
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ralph Jones[/bold] wrote: I,m sorry if we are to be a top class club you have to have a top class leader, and also get rid of the high priced garbage players that are carried from week to week,we had a chance to move up on the leaders and blew it at home, lets start the new year with a new leader Makay is available so why not go for him, Bowyer is not good enough he is always making excuses for is players instead of reading the riot act after performances like this.[/p][/quote]Would this be the same Malky McKay who, together with his Special Advisor, spent £50m to drag Cardiff into the relegation zone? Or maybe we should try to lure Big Sam back before he relegates West Ham? Ian Holloway is available but then isn't Ian Holloway always available following his predictable immature outbursts wherever he goes? On the other hand, we could just stick with, and get behind a modest, honest grafter, who, in his first year in management has built a squad that has taken us within two wins of the playoff zone?[/p][/quote]nice post mr A... French Rover

9:44am Mon 30 Dec 13

owd nick says...

BRFC75 wrote:
They can't score if they can't get the ball,

Row K defending just keeps giving the ball back to them.

We're half way through the season , things could be better , they could be a lot worse , just keep the ship pointed forward and a upwardly direction until end of season.

Then it will be decision time , like most reputable football clubs , don't panic , half way through the season ,we can all panic later.
In a game of football there are usually three teams on the pitch and in Rovers case yesterday around 15,000 managers in the stands.

I for one am one of those managers for around 95 minutes. :-)

When I got home after the game I caught the last 30 minutes or so of the Chelsea v Liverpool game, in the latter stages the Chelsea players under pressure from Liverpool didn't hesitate to hump the ball anywhere, upfield or into the crowd to buy time to reorganise.

I didn't see one back-pass to their keeper in a crowded area, not one.

Thats what I am saying about the third goal, we were in no position to play pretty passes in our own six yard box, the ball shouldn't have gone anywhere near Eastwood from the position we were in.
[quote][p][bold]BRFC75[/bold] wrote: They can't score if they can't get the ball, Row K defending just keeps giving the ball back to them. We're half way through the season , things could be better , they could be a lot worse , just keep the ship pointed forward and a upwardly direction until end of season. Then it will be decision time , like most reputable football clubs , don't panic , half way through the season ,we can all panic later.[/p][/quote]In a game of football there are usually three teams on the pitch and in Rovers case yesterday around 15,000 managers in the stands. I for one am one of those managers for around 95 minutes. :-) When I got home after the game I caught the last 30 minutes or so of the Chelsea v Liverpool game, in the latter stages the Chelsea players under pressure from Liverpool didn't hesitate to hump the ball anywhere, upfield or into the crowd to buy time to reorganise. I didn't see one back-pass to their keeper in a crowded area, not one. Thats what I am saying about the third goal, we were in no position to play pretty passes in our own six yard box, the ball shouldn't have gone anywhere near Eastwood from the position we were in. owd nick

9:48am Mon 30 Dec 13

greenscreener says...

owd nick wrote:
bluerob wrote:
owd nick wrote:
Not read any of the posts above, I am assuming the usual diatribe from so called Burnley fans and various ex Rovers malcontent,'s, but an honest post from someone who was actually there follows.

Rovers were awful in the first half, probably the worst performance from any Rovers team I have seen in 20 years, possibly more, no cohesion from back to front, when is GB going to realise that one up front simply doesn't work with the players we have?

Williamson, Rochina and to a lesser extent Lowe and Cairney could have been taken off at anytime during the first half.

I don't blame Eastwood for any of the goals (I haven't seen the highlights yet so might change my mind on the second), but certainly not the third, the ball was given away in midfield, yet again, and a stupid, hard hit back pass from about 10 yards left him naked for want of a better expression.

Whatever happened to the Colin Hendry "row K" school of defending?

Second half was totally different, Gestede on for Williamson was absolutely the right decision, I don't like getting at any Rovers player but this guy simply isn't worth a place on the bench, let alone starting.

Apart from a few minor scares Rovers totally bossed the second half, Marshall was exceptional, Judge did more in 20 minutes or so than Rochina did from the start, Gestede? Well we have to sign this guy.

Some excellent work from the City keeper and two late off the line clearances stopped us taking all 3 points, and from 0-3 down at half time I never though I would be saying that.

And no boo's at the end, that says so much about the second half performance.
You don't blame Eastwood for any of the goals, were you at the game ??
Well yes I was, come hail rain or shine I have only missed about 8 games in 44 years.

And I was sober.

Just watched the highlights and I stand by what I said;

ist goal - Novak was left all alone about 10 yds out in front of goal, Eastwood had no chance at all.
2nd goal - Rochina gave the ball away in the middle of the park, Novak controlled it then blasted a great goal in from about 30 yds, my first reaction (at the game) was that Eastwood had been caught napping but seeing it again he didn't stand a chance.
3rd goal - Totally down to a disorganised and panicking defence, what was wrong with belting the ball into the Blackburn End, reorganising and defending the corner?

aka Colin Hendry "Row K" school of defending.

As the late, great Bill Shankly once said "They can't score a goal from row K".
Nick, I think you are wrong on the last one, when the ball came through, and past Hanley it was up to Eastwood to take command and tell him clearly what he wanted him to do. Hanley hesitated because he thought Eastwood would come out, but he didn't. When he stayed back Hanley then decided to pass the ball to him, not sure if Eastwood called for it, but the pass was a bit too hard in my opinion.This led to Eastwood making a decision to kick it immediately, but down the middle rather than safe, but his kick was poor and led to the goal. Neither player covered in glory but the keeper must take the blame for that one.
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bluerob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: Not read any of the posts above, I am assuming the usual diatribe from so called Burnley fans and various ex Rovers malcontent,'s, but an honest post from someone who was actually there follows. Rovers were awful in the first half, probably the worst performance from any Rovers team I have seen in 20 years, possibly more, no cohesion from back to front, when is GB going to realise that one up front simply doesn't work with the players we have? Williamson, Rochina and to a lesser extent Lowe and Cairney could have been taken off at anytime during the first half. I don't blame Eastwood for any of the goals (I haven't seen the highlights yet so might change my mind on the second), but certainly not the third, the ball was given away in midfield, yet again, and a stupid, hard hit back pass from about 10 yards left him naked for want of a better expression. Whatever happened to the Colin Hendry "row K" school of defending? Second half was totally different, Gestede on for Williamson was absolutely the right decision, I don't like getting at any Rovers player but this guy simply isn't worth a place on the bench, let alone starting. Apart from a few minor scares Rovers totally bossed the second half, Marshall was exceptional, Judge did more in 20 minutes or so than Rochina did from the start, Gestede? Well we have to sign this guy. Some excellent work from the City keeper and two late off the line clearances stopped us taking all 3 points, and from 0-3 down at half time I never though I would be saying that. And no boo's at the end, that says so much about the second half performance.[/p][/quote]You don't blame Eastwood for any of the goals, were you at the game ??[/p][/quote]Well yes I was, come hail rain or shine I have only missed about 8 games in 44 years. And I was sober. Just watched the highlights and I stand by what I said; ist goal - Novak was left all alone about 10 yds out in front of goal, Eastwood had no chance at all. 2nd goal - Rochina gave the ball away in the middle of the park, Novak controlled it then blasted a great goal in from about 30 yds, my first reaction (at the game) was that Eastwood had been caught napping but seeing it again he didn't stand a chance. 3rd goal - Totally down to a disorganised and panicking defence, what was wrong with belting the ball into the Blackburn End, reorganising and defending the corner? aka Colin Hendry "Row K" school of defending. As the late, great Bill Shankly once said "They can't score a goal from row K".[/p][/quote]Nick, I think you are wrong on the last one, when the ball came through, and past Hanley it was up to Eastwood to take command and tell him clearly what he wanted him to do. Hanley hesitated because he thought Eastwood would come out, but he didn't. When he stayed back Hanley then decided to pass the ball to him, not sure if Eastwood called for it, but the pass was a bit too hard in my opinion.This led to Eastwood making a decision to kick it immediately, but down the middle rather than safe, but his kick was poor and led to the goal. Neither player covered in glory but the keeper must take the blame for that one. greenscreener

9:49am Mon 30 Dec 13

Angry From Accrington says...

greenscreener wrote:
Too frustrated to post rationally last night, happy to let the usual hysterics rant and rave and the gloaters celebrate lost points.

I thought Rovers started brightly, and when the ball was played on the floor at high tempo, mainly through Rochina, openings were coming, but the finishing was very poor, their goaler didn't actually have to make one good save from 4 or 5 decent chances in the first half. At the back it was a calamity. The first really sloppy defending, real lack of concentration because we were panicked by their obvious height advantage.The second, a wonder strike caused by Rueban loosing possession in midfield and the third total misunderstanding between Hanley and Eastwood. Neither of them took control of a though ball situation, either of them could have found Row Z, but neither did. By half time the players had dug themselves a hole. Sloppy finishing, sloppy defending, just not good enough.

Second half was a much better effort with more energy, more direct positive play and the confidence that was missing earlier. Jordan Rhodes clinical finishing and looking sharper when Gestede was making life difficult for their defence, offering the kind of disruptive play CKR showed in patches last season. A second half display to be proud of, underlining that we can do it if we get the application right, but when we don't, we are still fragile.

My team selection pre match did not include Williamson or Henley, and yesterday frankly, neither was up to the game. My other negative is a return to a point I've made before, Scott Dann, you should be able to pass a ball by now. Setting aside your late airshot that could have won a point, your captaincy in the first half yesterday was not good enough, when your defence was struggling, you were loosing your head, go get a Ryan Nelson video and just watch how he coached the players around him through a game.

This is the week we should have put ourselves in the play-off positions, and we haven't, opinions seem divided on why not, you can blame some of the players, the manager, the Venkys, the fans (who were brilliant yesterday).

Obviously we are close, but what happens next, is the commitment there, do we kick on or crumble ?
A very fair assessment and I totally agree with the points on Henley and Williamson. I suspect that GB knows this too and they are second string. Dann is more of a worry. A player of his experience and pedigree should be more than comfortable in this league but is increasingly being outshine by Hanley, who himself, is still developing. I am not calling for him to be dropped but he needs attention in training.
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: Too frustrated to post rationally last night, happy to let the usual hysterics rant and rave and the gloaters celebrate lost points. I thought Rovers started brightly, and when the ball was played on the floor at high tempo, mainly through Rochina, openings were coming, but the finishing was very poor, their goaler didn't actually have to make one good save from 4 or 5 decent chances in the first half. At the back it was a calamity. The first really sloppy defending, real lack of concentration because we were panicked by their obvious height advantage.The second, a wonder strike caused by Rueban loosing possession in midfield and the third total misunderstanding between Hanley and Eastwood. Neither of them took control of a though ball situation, either of them could have found Row Z, but neither did. By half time the players had dug themselves a hole. Sloppy finishing, sloppy defending, just not good enough. Second half was a much better effort with more energy, more direct positive play and the confidence that was missing earlier. Jordan Rhodes clinical finishing and looking sharper when Gestede was making life difficult for their defence, offering the kind of disruptive play CKR showed in patches last season. A second half display to be proud of, underlining that we can do it if we get the application right, but when we don't, we are still fragile. My team selection pre match did not include Williamson or Henley, and yesterday frankly, neither was up to the game. My other negative is a return to a point I've made before, Scott Dann, you should be able to pass a ball by now. Setting aside your late airshot that could have won a point, your captaincy in the first half yesterday was not good enough, when your defence was struggling, you were loosing your head, go get a Ryan Nelson video and just watch how he coached the players around him through a game. This is the week we should have put ourselves in the play-off positions, and we haven't, opinions seem divided on why not, you can blame some of the players, the manager, the Venkys, the fans (who were brilliant yesterday). Obviously we are close, but what happens next, is the commitment there, do we kick on or crumble ?[/p][/quote]A very fair assessment and I totally agree with the points on Henley and Williamson. I suspect that GB knows this too and they are second string. Dann is more of a worry. A player of his experience and pedigree should be more than comfortable in this league but is increasingly being outshine by Hanley, who himself, is still developing. I am not calling for him to be dropped but he needs attention in training. Angry From Accrington

9:51am Mon 30 Dec 13

You're not mugging me off that easily says...

greenscreener wrote:
MatthewCA wrote:
5 points lost in last 5 days is a big lost.... Otherwise we will be in 6th position to move forward to newyear.

All spoils because of some lazy effort from our players and A positive to take is a good fight back after the 3 goal HIT in the first half.

We need more commited players who can win matchs. We got some soft BOYS who is playing sweet week IN week Out with club facilities and called big players, they don't have the fighting sprit to get hold of the game and push to there limits.

All the best for a Very Good NEW YEAR 2014. Hope we will arise with the new hope. Game ON.
And May the Force be with you in 2014, Yoda.

I don't always understand your posts but they are entertaining and your passion for the Blues is obvious.
HE doesn't even understand his own posts.
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MatthewCA[/bold] wrote: 5 points lost in last 5 days is a big lost.... Otherwise we will be in 6th position to move forward to newyear. All spoils because of some lazy effort from our players and A positive to take is a good fight back after the 3 goal HIT in the first half. We need more commited players who can win matchs. We got some soft BOYS who is playing sweet week IN week Out with club facilities and called big players, they don't have the fighting sprit to get hold of the game and push to there limits. All the best for a Very Good NEW YEAR 2014. Hope we will arise with the new hope. Game ON.[/p][/quote]And May the Force be with you in 2014, Yoda. I don't always understand your posts but they are entertaining and your passion for the Blues is obvious.[/p][/quote]HE doesn't even understand his own posts. You're not mugging me off that easily

10:48am Mon 30 Dec 13

owd nick says...

greenscreener wrote:
owd nick wrote:
bluerob wrote:
owd nick wrote:
Not read any of the posts above, I am assuming the usual diatribe from so called Burnley fans and various ex Rovers malcontent,'s, but an honest post from someone who was actually there follows.

Rovers were awful in the first half, probably the worst performance from any Rovers team I have seen in 20 years, possibly more, no cohesion from back to front, when is GB going to realise that one up front simply doesn't work with the players we have?

Williamson, Rochina and to a lesser extent Lowe and Cairney could have been taken off at anytime during the first half.

I don't blame Eastwood for any of the goals (I haven't seen the highlights yet so might change my mind on the second), but certainly not the third, the ball was given away in midfield, yet again, and a stupid, hard hit back pass from about 10 yards left him naked for want of a better expression.

Whatever happened to the Colin Hendry "row K" school of defending?

Second half was totally different, Gestede on for Williamson was absolutely the right decision, I don't like getting at any Rovers player but this guy simply isn't worth a place on the bench, let alone starting.

Apart from a few minor scares Rovers totally bossed the second half, Marshall was exceptional, Judge did more in 20 minutes or so than Rochina did from the start, Gestede? Well we have to sign this guy.

Some excellent work from the City keeper and two late off the line clearances stopped us taking all 3 points, and from 0-3 down at half time I never though I would be saying that.

And no boo's at the end, that says so much about the second half performance.
You don't blame Eastwood for any of the goals, were you at the game ??
Well yes I was, come hail rain or shine I have only missed about 8 games in 44 years.

And I was sober.

Just watched the highlights and I stand by what I said;

ist goal - Novak was left all alone about 10 yds out in front of goal, Eastwood had no chance at all.
2nd goal - Rochina gave the ball away in the middle of the park, Novak controlled it then blasted a great goal in from about 30 yds, my first reaction (at the game) was that Eastwood had been caught napping but seeing it again he didn't stand a chance.
3rd goal - Totally down to a disorganised and panicking defence, what was wrong with belting the ball into the Blackburn End, reorganising and defending the corner?

aka Colin Hendry "Row K" school of defending.

As the late, great Bill Shankly once said "They can't score a goal from row K".
Nick, I think you are wrong on the last one, when the ball came through, and past Hanley it was up to Eastwood to take command and tell him clearly what he wanted him to do. Hanley hesitated because he thought Eastwood would come out, but he didn't. When he stayed back Hanley then decided to pass the ball to him, not sure if Eastwood called for it, but the pass was a bit too hard in my opinion.This led to Eastwood making a decision to kick it immediately, but down the middle rather than safe, but his kick was poor and led to the goal. Neither player covered in glory but the keeper must take the blame for that one.
Thats why we enjoy the game, we all have different views and can argue about them for ages, of course mine are clouded slightly because I used to play in goal! :-)
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bluerob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: Not read any of the posts above, I am assuming the usual diatribe from so called Burnley fans and various ex Rovers malcontent,'s, but an honest post from someone who was actually there follows. Rovers were awful in the first half, probably the worst performance from any Rovers team I have seen in 20 years, possibly more, no cohesion from back to front, when is GB going to realise that one up front simply doesn't work with the players we have? Williamson, Rochina and to a lesser extent Lowe and Cairney could have been taken off at anytime during the first half. I don't blame Eastwood for any of the goals (I haven't seen the highlights yet so might change my mind on the second), but certainly not the third, the ball was given away in midfield, yet again, and a stupid, hard hit back pass from about 10 yards left him naked for want of a better expression. Whatever happened to the Colin Hendry "row K" school of defending? Second half was totally different, Gestede on for Williamson was absolutely the right decision, I don't like getting at any Rovers player but this guy simply isn't worth a place on the bench, let alone starting. Apart from a few minor scares Rovers totally bossed the second half, Marshall was exceptional, Judge did more in 20 minutes or so than Rochina did from the start, Gestede? Well we have to sign this guy. Some excellent work from the City keeper and two late off the line clearances stopped us taking all 3 points, and from 0-3 down at half time I never though I would be saying that. And no boo's at the end, that says so much about the second half performance.[/p][/quote]You don't blame Eastwood for any of the goals, were you at the game ??[/p][/quote]Well yes I was, come hail rain or shine I have only missed about 8 games in 44 years. And I was sober. Just watched the highlights and I stand by what I said; ist goal - Novak was left all alone about 10 yds out in front of goal, Eastwood had no chance at all. 2nd goal - Rochina gave the ball away in the middle of the park, Novak controlled it then blasted a great goal in from about 30 yds, my first reaction (at the game) was that Eastwood had been caught napping but seeing it again he didn't stand a chance. 3rd goal - Totally down to a disorganised and panicking defence, what was wrong with belting the ball into the Blackburn End, reorganising and defending the corner? aka Colin Hendry "Row K" school of defending. As the late, great Bill Shankly once said "They can't score a goal from row K".[/p][/quote]Nick, I think you are wrong on the last one, when the ball came through, and past Hanley it was up to Eastwood to take command and tell him clearly what he wanted him to do. Hanley hesitated because he thought Eastwood would come out, but he didn't. When he stayed back Hanley then decided to pass the ball to him, not sure if Eastwood called for it, but the pass was a bit too hard in my opinion.This led to Eastwood making a decision to kick it immediately, but down the middle rather than safe, but his kick was poor and led to the goal. Neither player covered in glory but the keeper must take the blame for that one.[/p][/quote]Thats why we enjoy the game, we all have different views and can argue about them for ages, of course mine are clouded slightly because I used to play in goal! :-) owd nick

10:50am Mon 30 Dec 13

Paul E says...

Rich Riley wrote:
cboyer wrote:
scott dann is a disgrace the way he gripped our own keeper for making 1 mistake! dann makes more mistakes than anybody and has lost us loads of points wasnt a bad performance to be honest if we are all honest here we didnt deserve to get beat today
Is this right? I missed it!
I completely agree, Dann was out of order. Is this the superb team spirit Bowyer keeps talking about?
The football produced in the second lf was simply down to the change of formation and players playing in the correct position. Sorry to say, the manager does not have the tactical knowledge to move this club forward
[quote][p][bold]Rich Riley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cboyer[/bold] wrote: scott dann is a disgrace the way he gripped our own keeper for making 1 mistake! dann makes more mistakes than anybody and has lost us loads of points wasnt a bad performance to be honest if we are all honest here we didnt deserve to get beat today[/p][/quote]Is this right? I missed it![/p][/quote]I completely agree, Dann was out of order. Is this the superb team spirit Bowyer keeps talking about? The football produced in the second lf was simply down to the change of formation and players playing in the correct position. Sorry to say, the manager does not have the tactical knowledge to move this club forward Paul E

11:22am Mon 30 Dec 13

passingfootball says...

"I don't blame Eastwood for any of the goals (I haven't seen the highlights yet so might change my mind on the second), but certainly not the third, the ball was given away in midfield, yet again, and a stupid, hard hit back pass from about 10 yards left him naked for want of a better expression"

The last goal was in someways similar to the third goal conceded at ipswich, if there was better communication between the defender and the goalkeeper, the keeper would have quickly come of the line acting as a sweeper and removing the danger, or hanley could have pointed to eastwood to clear it long before passing the ball to him, it looked as though eastwood didnt want the ball passed to him and therefore hadnt prepared to receive it so gave it away straight back
"I don't blame Eastwood for any of the goals (I haven't seen the highlights yet so might change my mind on the second), but certainly not the third, the ball was given away in midfield, yet again, and a stupid, hard hit back pass from about 10 yards left him naked for want of a better expression" The last goal was in someways similar to the third goal conceded at ipswich, if there was better communication between the defender and the goalkeeper, the keeper would have quickly come of the line acting as a sweeper and removing the danger, or hanley could have pointed to eastwood to clear it long before passing the ball to him, it looked as though eastwood didnt want the ball passed to him and therefore hadnt prepared to receive it so gave it away straight back passingfootball

11:36am Mon 30 Dec 13

bluerob says...

Paul E wrote:
Rich Riley wrote:
cboyer wrote:
scott dann is a disgrace the way he gripped our own keeper for making 1 mistake! dann makes more mistakes than anybody and has lost us loads of points wasnt a bad performance to be honest if we are all honest here we didnt deserve to get beat today
Is this right? I missed it!
I completely agree, Dann was out of order. Is this the superb team spirit Bowyer keeps talking about?
The football produced in the second lf was simply down to the change of formation and players playing in the correct position. Sorry to say, the manager does not have the tactical knowledge to move this club forward
I don't agree , it's about time we saw a few Mr Nasty's around. If people make stupid mistakes they need telling in no uncertain terms that this is not acceptable.
[quote][p][bold]Paul E[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rich Riley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cboyer[/bold] wrote: scott dann is a disgrace the way he gripped our own keeper for making 1 mistake! dann makes more mistakes than anybody and has lost us loads of points wasnt a bad performance to be honest if we are all honest here we didnt deserve to get beat today[/p][/quote]Is this right? I missed it![/p][/quote]I completely agree, Dann was out of order. Is this the superb team spirit Bowyer keeps talking about? The football produced in the second lf was simply down to the change of formation and players playing in the correct position. Sorry to say, the manager does not have the tactical knowledge to move this club forward[/p][/quote]I don't agree , it's about time we saw a few Mr Nasty's around. If people make stupid mistakes they need telling in no uncertain terms that this is not acceptable. bluerob

11:44am Mon 30 Dec 13

bluerob says...

owd nick wrote:
greenscreener wrote:
owd nick wrote:
bluerob wrote:
owd nick wrote:
Not read any of the posts above, I am assuming the usual diatribe from so called Burnley fans and various ex Rovers malcontent,'s, but an honest post from someone who was actually there follows.

Rovers were awful in the first half, probably the worst performance from any Rovers team I have seen in 20 years, possibly more, no cohesion from back to front, when is GB going to realise that one up front simply doesn't work with the players we have?

Williamson, Rochina and to a lesser extent Lowe and Cairney could have been taken off at anytime during the first half.

I don't blame Eastwood for any of the goals (I haven't seen the highlights yet so might change my mind on the second), but certainly not the third, the ball was given away in midfield, yet again, and a stupid, hard hit back pass from about 10 yards left him naked for want of a better expression.

Whatever happened to the Colin Hendry "row K" school of defending?

Second half was totally different, Gestede on for Williamson was absolutely the right decision, I don't like getting at any Rovers player but this guy simply isn't worth a place on the bench, let alone starting.

Apart from a few minor scares Rovers totally bossed the second half, Marshall was exceptional, Judge did more in 20 minutes or so than Rochina did from the start, Gestede? Well we have to sign this guy.

Some excellent work from the City keeper and two late off the line clearances stopped us taking all 3 points, and from 0-3 down at half time I never though I would be saying that.

And no boo's at the end, that says so much about the second half performance.
You don't blame Eastwood for any of the goals, were you at the game ??
Well yes I was, come hail rain or shine I have only missed about 8 games in 44 years.

And I was sober.

Just watched the highlights and I stand by what I said;

ist goal - Novak was left all alone about 10 yds out in front of goal, Eastwood had no chance at all.
2nd goal - Rochina gave the ball away in the middle of the park, Novak controlled it then blasted a great goal in from about 30 yds, my first reaction (at the game) was that Eastwood had been caught napping but seeing it again he didn't stand a chance.
3rd goal - Totally down to a disorganised and panicking defence, what was wrong with belting the ball into the Blackburn End, reorganising and defending the corner?

aka Colin Hendry "Row K" school of defending.

As the late, great Bill Shankly once said "They can't score a goal from row K".
Nick, I think you are wrong on the last one, when the ball came through, and past Hanley it was up to Eastwood to take command and tell him clearly what he wanted him to do. Hanley hesitated because he thought Eastwood would come out, but he didn't. When he stayed back Hanley then decided to pass the ball to him, not sure if Eastwood called for it, but the pass was a bit too hard in my opinion.This led to Eastwood making a decision to kick it immediately, but down the middle rather than safe, but his kick was poor and led to the goal. Neither player covered in glory but the keeper must take the blame for that one.
Thats why we enjoy the game, we all have different views and can argue about them for ages, of course mine are clouded slightly because I used to play in goal! :-)
No matter which way you look at it the keeper was ultimately responsible for the goal, it was an elementary mistake, you have to put the ball anywhere but back out to the middle of the goal.

And I played in goal too !
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bluerob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: Not read any of the posts above, I am assuming the usual diatribe from so called Burnley fans and various ex Rovers malcontent,'s, but an honest post from someone who was actually there follows. Rovers were awful in the first half, probably the worst performance from any Rovers team I have seen in 20 years, possibly more, no cohesion from back to front, when is GB going to realise that one up front simply doesn't work with the players we have? Williamson, Rochina and to a lesser extent Lowe and Cairney could have been taken off at anytime during the first half. I don't blame Eastwood for any of the goals (I haven't seen the highlights yet so might change my mind on the second), but certainly not the third, the ball was given away in midfield, yet again, and a stupid, hard hit back pass from about 10 yards left him naked for want of a better expression. Whatever happened to the Colin Hendry "row K" school of defending? Second half was totally different, Gestede on for Williamson was absolutely the right decision, I don't like getting at any Rovers player but this guy simply isn't worth a place on the bench, let alone starting. Apart from a few minor scares Rovers totally bossed the second half, Marshall was exceptional, Judge did more in 20 minutes or so than Rochina did from the start, Gestede? Well we have to sign this guy. Some excellent work from the City keeper and two late off the line clearances stopped us taking all 3 points, and from 0-3 down at half time I never though I would be saying that. And no boo's at the end, that says so much about the second half performance.[/p][/quote]You don't blame Eastwood for any of the goals, were you at the game ??[/p][/quote]Well yes I was, come hail rain or shine I have only missed about 8 games in 44 years. And I was sober. Just watched the highlights and I stand by what I said; ist goal - Novak was left all alone about 10 yds out in front of goal, Eastwood had no chance at all. 2nd goal - Rochina gave the ball away in the middle of the park, Novak controlled it then blasted a great goal in from about 30 yds, my first reaction (at the game) was that Eastwood had been caught napping but seeing it again he didn't stand a chance. 3rd goal - Totally down to a disorganised and panicking defence, what was wrong with belting the ball into the Blackburn End, reorganising and defending the corner? aka Colin Hendry "Row K" school of defending. As the late, great Bill Shankly once said "They can't score a goal from row K".[/p][/quote]Nick, I think you are wrong on the last one, when the ball came through, and past Hanley it was up to Eastwood to take command and tell him clearly what he wanted him to do. Hanley hesitated because he thought Eastwood would come out, but he didn't. When he stayed back Hanley then decided to pass the ball to him, not sure if Eastwood called for it, but the pass was a bit too hard in my opinion.This led to Eastwood making a decision to kick it immediately, but down the middle rather than safe, but his kick was poor and led to the goal. Neither player covered in glory but the keeper must take the blame for that one.[/p][/quote]Thats why we enjoy the game, we all have different views and can argue about them for ages, of course mine are clouded slightly because I used to play in goal! :-)[/p][/quote]No matter which way you look at it the keeper was ultimately responsible for the goal, it was an elementary mistake, you have to put the ball anywhere but back out to the middle of the goal. And I played in goal too ! bluerob

11:53am Mon 30 Dec 13

passingfootball says...

"Before the game a big groan went around the pub when the team was anounced.
Once again 2 holding players selected by GB for a home match, and both possess zero creativity.
Once again Cairney was wasted being played out wide."

lucky for you lowe is out for the next game due to suspension, so bowyer will have to try something different, rovers always miss dunn's quality with the final ball, when he is not on the team, rovers results usually take a dip, other players miss those cutbacks from the by-line or them through balls that slice the whole defence. in the end its not about the number of attempts on goal, but how many times a move ends up with the keeper having scramble to make a save to keep the ball out because the shot has been on target, we need more players in the box when rhodes shots are being saved we need other players in the box for the follow up, instead of allowing their defenders to clear the danger without any worries

"Once again we started the game too slowly and after around 1/2 hour we were 0 - 3 down to an average Championship side"

exactly if we started each game flying, quick from the traps and first to every challenge, we'd be scoring earlier before theyve even settled, the other team will be more concerned about keeping us out than worrying how to start attacks of their own, in the panic they will be hoofing it out and giving it straight back with the pressure theyll be under
"Before the game a big groan went around the pub when the team was anounced. Once again 2 holding players selected by GB for a home match, and both possess zero creativity. Once again Cairney was wasted being played out wide." lucky for you lowe is out for the next game due to suspension, so bowyer will have to try something different, rovers always miss dunn's quality with the final ball, when he is not on the team, rovers results usually take a dip, other players miss those cutbacks from the by-line or them through balls that slice the whole defence. in the end its not about the number of attempts on goal, but how many times a move ends up with the keeper having scramble to make a save to keep the ball out because the shot has been on target, we need more players in the box when rhodes shots are being saved we need other players in the box for the follow up, instead of allowing their defenders to clear the danger without any worries "Once again we started the game too slowly and after around 1/2 hour we were 0 - 3 down to an average Championship side" exactly if we started each game flying, quick from the traps and first to every challenge, we'd be scoring earlier before theyve even settled, the other team will be more concerned about keeping us out than worrying how to start attacks of their own, in the panic they will be hoofing it out and giving it straight back with the pressure theyll be under passingfootball

12:34pm Mon 30 Dec 13

dean555 says...

My goodness! Have you heard yourselves!! We absolutely battered a supposedly inform Birmingham team and any other day would have hammered them! First goal, we could clear our lines, defenders fault, second player should have been closed down earlier, defenders fault, and third goal, ball should have been cleared by Hanley or Henley so defenders fault! How come it's bowyers fault? I haven't seen a more one sided game at Ewood, and we will play a lot worse In future and win! We are not a premier league team any more, so I wish people would stop talking like we have a given right to win games and go up!
My goodness! Have you heard yourselves!! We absolutely battered a supposedly inform Birmingham team and any other day would have hammered them! First goal, we could clear our lines, defenders fault, second player should have been closed down earlier, defenders fault, and third goal, ball should have been cleared by Hanley or Henley so defenders fault! How come it's bowyers fault? I haven't seen a more one sided game at Ewood, and we will play a lot worse In future and win! We are not a premier league team any more, so I wish people would stop talking like we have a given right to win games and go up! dean555

1:06pm Mon 30 Dec 13

owd nick says...

Paul E wrote:
Rich Riley wrote:
cboyer wrote:
scott dann is a disgrace the way he gripped our own keeper for making 1 mistake! dann makes more mistakes than anybody and has lost us loads of points wasnt a bad performance to be honest if we are all honest here we didnt deserve to get beat today
Is this right? I missed it!
I completely agree, Dann was out of order. Is this the superb team spirit Bowyer keeps talking about?
The football produced in the second lf was simply down to the change of formation and players playing in the correct position. Sorry to say, the manager does not have the tactical knowledge to move this club forward
So GB doesn't have the tactical knowledge to move the team forward?

Well I will give you the fact he is inexperienced but who made the tactical switch at the start of the second half that completely changed the game?

Players have a go at each other all the time and as long as it stays on the pitch that's fine, and as captain he has the right to kick arse on the pitch.

Or didn't you hear the Wednesday captain scream at his left back "Wake up you lazy b*****d" the other night?
[quote][p][bold]Paul E[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rich Riley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cboyer[/bold] wrote: scott dann is a disgrace the way he gripped our own keeper for making 1 mistake! dann makes more mistakes than anybody and has lost us loads of points wasnt a bad performance to be honest if we are all honest here we didnt deserve to get beat today[/p][/quote]Is this right? I missed it![/p][/quote]I completely agree, Dann was out of order. Is this the superb team spirit Bowyer keeps talking about? The football produced in the second lf was simply down to the change of formation and players playing in the correct position. Sorry to say, the manager does not have the tactical knowledge to move this club forward[/p][/quote]So GB doesn't have the tactical knowledge to move the team forward? Well I will give you the fact he is inexperienced but who made the tactical switch at the start of the second half that completely changed the game? Players have a go at each other all the time and as long as it stays on the pitch that's fine, and as captain he has the right to kick arse on the pitch. Or didn't you hear the Wednesday captain scream at his left back "Wake up you lazy b*****d" the other night? owd nick

1:12pm Mon 30 Dec 13

owd nick says...

passingfootball wrote:
"Before the game a big groan went around the pub when the team was anounced.
Once again 2 holding players selected by GB for a home match, and both possess zero creativity.
Once again Cairney was wasted being played out wide."

lucky for you lowe is out for the next game due to suspension, so bowyer will have to try something different, rovers always miss dunn's quality with the final ball, when he is not on the team, rovers results usually take a dip, other players miss those cutbacks from the by-line or them through balls that slice the whole defence. in the end its not about the number of attempts on goal, but how many times a move ends up with the keeper having scramble to make a save to keep the ball out because the shot has been on target, we need more players in the box when rhodes shots are being saved we need other players in the box for the follow up, instead of allowing their defenders to clear the danger without any worries

"Once again we started the game too slowly and after around 1/2 hour we were 0 - 3 down to an average Championship side"

exactly if we started each game flying, quick from the traps and first to every challenge, we'd be scoring earlier before theyve even settled, the other team will be more concerned about keeping us out than worrying how to start attacks of their own, in the panic they will be hoofing it out and giving it straight back with the pressure theyll be under
Unlucky for Rovers that Lowe is sidelined against Leeds, he may not be the best player in the world but he does the unglamorous muck and bullets job pretty well.

I was actually quite confident we would get at least one point at Leeds but now with Lowe missing I am not so sure.
[quote][p][bold]passingfootball[/bold] wrote: "Before the game a big groan went around the pub when the team was anounced. Once again 2 holding players selected by GB for a home match, and both possess zero creativity. Once again Cairney was wasted being played out wide." lucky for you lowe is out for the next game due to suspension, so bowyer will have to try something different, rovers always miss dunn's quality with the final ball, when he is not on the team, rovers results usually take a dip, other players miss those cutbacks from the by-line or them through balls that slice the whole defence. in the end its not about the number of attempts on goal, but how many times a move ends up with the keeper having scramble to make a save to keep the ball out because the shot has been on target, we need more players in the box when rhodes shots are being saved we need other players in the box for the follow up, instead of allowing their defenders to clear the danger without any worries "Once again we started the game too slowly and after around 1/2 hour we were 0 - 3 down to an average Championship side" exactly if we started each game flying, quick from the traps and first to every challenge, we'd be scoring earlier before theyve even settled, the other team will be more concerned about keeping us out than worrying how to start attacks of their own, in the panic they will be hoofing it out and giving it straight back with the pressure theyll be under[/p][/quote]Unlucky for Rovers that Lowe is sidelined against Leeds, he may not be the best player in the world but he does the unglamorous muck and bullets job pretty well. I was actually quite confident we would get at least one point at Leeds but now with Lowe missing I am not so sure. owd nick

1:33pm Mon 30 Dec 13

MatthewCA says...

Have a party to forget 2013:))))))) get few Manchester United/City bench players for the new year transfer window.
Have a party to forget 2013:))))))) get few Manchester United/City bench players for the new year transfer window. MatthewCA

2:46pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Riverside 7 says...

passingfootball wrote:
"Before the game a big groan went around the pub when the team was anounced.
Once again 2 holding players selected by GB for a home match, and both possess zero creativity.
Once again Cairney was wasted being played out wide."

lucky for you lowe is out for the next game due to suspension, so bowyer will have to try something different, rovers always miss dunn's quality with the final ball, when he is not on the team, rovers results usually take a dip, other players miss those cutbacks from the by-line or them through balls that slice the whole defence. in the end its not about the number of attempts on goal, but how many times a move ends up with the keeper having scramble to make a save to keep the ball out because the shot has been on target, we need more players in the box when rhodes shots are being saved we need other players in the box for the follow up, instead of allowing their defenders to clear the danger without any worries

"Once again we started the game too slowly and after around 1/2 hour we were 0 - 3 down to an average Championship side"

exactly if we started each game flying, quick from the traps and first to every challenge, we'd be scoring earlier before theyve even settled, the other team will be more concerned about keeping us out than worrying how to start attacks of their own, in the panic they will be hoofing it out and giving it straight back with the pressure theyll be under
I am glad you agree with my comments.

However, I understand that there are times when it may be necessary to play two defensive / holding midfielders – such as in an away game against a top team.

But what has been happening is that GB has been selecting them and playing 1 lone striker in home matches against lower opposition.
Whilst I recognise that there is little between most teams in this division, if we are to have any ambitions of promotion this season we must attack teams at home from the start.

The first goal gives the team confidence, gets the fans onside and forces the away team to change their formation making it a more open game of football.

I can count on the fingers of one hand (and I am not a Dingle) how many times I have left Ewood this season feeling like I have enjoyed the game. And I know that I am not alone.
[quote][p][bold]passingfootball[/bold] wrote: "Before the game a big groan went around the pub when the team was anounced. Once again 2 holding players selected by GB for a home match, and both possess zero creativity. Once again Cairney was wasted being played out wide." lucky for you lowe is out for the next game due to suspension, so bowyer will have to try something different, rovers always miss dunn's quality with the final ball, when he is not on the team, rovers results usually take a dip, other players miss those cutbacks from the by-line or them through balls that slice the whole defence. in the end its not about the number of attempts on goal, but how many times a move ends up with the keeper having scramble to make a save to keep the ball out because the shot has been on target, we need more players in the box when rhodes shots are being saved we need other players in the box for the follow up, instead of allowing their defenders to clear the danger without any worries "Once again we started the game too slowly and after around 1/2 hour we were 0 - 3 down to an average Championship side" exactly if we started each game flying, quick from the traps and first to every challenge, we'd be scoring earlier before theyve even settled, the other team will be more concerned about keeping us out than worrying how to start attacks of their own, in the panic they will be hoofing it out and giving it straight back with the pressure theyll be under[/p][/quote]I am glad you agree with my comments. However, I understand that there are times when it may be necessary to play two defensive / holding midfielders – such as in an away game against a top team. But what has been happening is that GB has been selecting them and playing 1 lone striker in home matches against lower opposition. Whilst I recognise that there is little between most teams in this division, if we are to have any ambitions of promotion this season we must attack teams at home from the start. The first goal gives the team confidence, gets the fans onside and forces the away team to change their formation making it a more open game of football. I can count on the fingers of one hand (and I am not a Dingle) how many times I have left Ewood this season feeling like I have enjoyed the game. And I know that I am not alone. Riverside 7

2:59pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Riverside 7 says...

greenscreener wrote:
Too frustrated to post rationally last night, happy to let the usual hysterics rant and rave and the gloaters celebrate lost points.

I thought Rovers started brightly, and when the ball was played on the floor at high tempo, mainly through Rochina, openings were coming, but the finishing was very poor, their goaler didn't actually have to make one good save from 4 or 5 decent chances in the first half. At the back it was a calamity. The first really sloppy defending, real lack of concentration because we were panicked by their obvious height advantage.The second, a wonder strike caused by Rueban loosing possession in midfield and the third total misunderstanding between Hanley and Eastwood. Neither of them took control of a though ball situation, either of them could have found Row Z, but neither did. By half time the players had dug themselves a hole. Sloppy finishing, sloppy defending, just not good enough.

Second half was a much better effort with more energy, more direct positive play and the confidence that was missing earlier. Jordan Rhodes clinical finishing and looking sharper when Gestede was making life difficult for their defence, offering the kind of disruptive play CKR showed in patches last season. A second half display to be proud of, underlining that we can do it if we get the application right, but when we don't, we are still fragile.

My team selection pre match did not include Williamson or Henley, and yesterday frankly, neither was up to the game. My other negative is a return to a point I've made before, Scott Dann, you should be able to pass a ball by now. Setting aside your late airshot that could have won a point, your captaincy in the first half yesterday was not good enough, when your defence was struggling, you were loosing your head, go get a Ryan Nelson video and just watch how he coached the players around him through a game.

This is the week we should have put ourselves in the play-off positions, and we haven't, opinions seem divided on why not, you can blame some of the players, the manager, the Venkys, the fans (who were brilliant yesterday).

Obviously we are close, but what happens next, is the commitment there, do we kick on or crumble ?
I agree wiith most of your comments Greenie.
I too share your frustrations.
Just why do we seem to start games so slowly and end up playing catch up?
Is it a lack of pre-match motivation, because there is usually an improvement after half-time (apart from the Sheff Wed game).
GB has now signed 12 players. It is HIS team and the fans are beginning to voice their frustrations at the lack of progress.
Yes, GB has steadied the ship, but we cannot allow this season to just drift away.
As a club we must be pushing for more wins to close the gap on the top 6.
I do hope that GB can achieve more than stability this season, because with a transfer embargo looming, things will only get more difficult in the future.
[quote][p][bold]greenscreener[/bold] wrote: Too frustrated to post rationally last night, happy to let the usual hysterics rant and rave and the gloaters celebrate lost points. I thought Rovers started brightly, and when the ball was played on the floor at high tempo, mainly through Rochina, openings were coming, but the finishing was very poor, their goaler didn't actually have to make one good save from 4 or 5 decent chances in the first half. At the back it was a calamity. The first really sloppy defending, real lack of concentration because we were panicked by their obvious height advantage.The second, a wonder strike caused by Rueban loosing possession in midfield and the third total misunderstanding between Hanley and Eastwood. Neither of them took control of a though ball situation, either of them could have found Row Z, but neither did. By half time the players had dug themselves a hole. Sloppy finishing, sloppy defending, just not good enough. Second half was a much better effort with more energy, more direct positive play and the confidence that was missing earlier. Jordan Rhodes clinical finishing and looking sharper when Gestede was making life difficult for their defence, offering the kind of disruptive play CKR showed in patches last season. A second half display to be proud of, underlining that we can do it if we get the application right, but when we don't, we are still fragile. My team selection pre match did not include Williamson or Henley, and yesterday frankly, neither was up to the game. My other negative is a return to a point I've made before, Scott Dann, you should be able to pass a ball by now. Setting aside your late airshot that could have won a point, your captaincy in the first half yesterday was not good enough, when your defence was struggling, you were loosing your head, go get a Ryan Nelson video and just watch how he coached the players around him through a game. This is the week we should have put ourselves in the play-off positions, and we haven't, opinions seem divided on why not, you can blame some of the players, the manager, the Venkys, the fans (who were brilliant yesterday). Obviously we are close, but what happens next, is the commitment there, do we kick on or crumble ?[/p][/quote]I agree wiith most of your comments Greenie. I too share your frustrations. Just why do we seem to start games so slowly and end up playing catch up? Is it a lack of pre-match motivation, because there is usually an improvement after half-time (apart from the Sheff Wed game). GB has now signed 12 players. It is HIS team and the fans are beginning to voice their frustrations at the lack of progress. Yes, GB has steadied the ship, but we cannot allow this season to just drift away. As a club we must be pushing for more wins to close the gap on the top 6. I do hope that GB can achieve more than stability this season, because with a transfer embargo looming, things will only get more difficult in the future. Riverside 7

3:51pm Mon 30 Dec 13

bluenick says...

Riverside 7 wrote:
passingfootball wrote:
"Before the game a big groan went around the pub when the team was anounced.
Once again 2 holding players selected by GB for a home match, and both possess zero creativity.
Once again Cairney was wasted being played out wide."

lucky for you lowe is out for the next game due to suspension, so bowyer will have to try something different, rovers always miss dunn's quality with the final ball, when he is not on the team, rovers results usually take a dip, other players miss those cutbacks from the by-line or them through balls that slice the whole defence. in the end its not about the number of attempts on goal, but how many times a move ends up with the keeper having scramble to make a save to keep the ball out because the shot has been on target, we need more players in the box when rhodes shots are being saved we need other players in the box for the follow up, instead of allowing their defenders to clear the danger without any worries

"Once again we started the game too slowly and after around 1/2 hour we were 0 - 3 down to an average Championship side"

exactly if we started each game flying, quick from the traps and first to every challenge, we'd be scoring earlier before theyve even settled, the other team will be more concerned about keeping us out than worrying how to start attacks of their own, in the panic they will be hoofing it out and giving it straight back with the pressure theyll be under
I am glad you agree with my comments.

However, I understand that there are times when it may be necessary to play two defensive / holding midfielders – such as in an away game against a top team.

But what has been happening is that GB has been selecting them and playing 1 lone striker in home matches against lower opposition.
Whilst I recognise that there is little between most teams in this division, if we are to have any ambitions of promotion this season we must attack teams at home from the start.

The first goal gives the team confidence, gets the fans onside and forces the away team to change their formation making it a more open game of football.

I can count on the fingers of one hand (and I am not a Dingle) how many times I have left Ewood this season feeling like I have enjoyed the game. And I know that I am not alone.
Agree Riverside! But its what all true football fans have to put with. Supporting the team in good and bad times!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]passingfootball[/bold] wrote: "Before the game a big groan went around the pub when the team was anounced. Once again 2 holding players selected by GB for a home match, and both possess zero creativity. Once again Cairney was wasted being played out wide." lucky for you lowe is out for the next game due to suspension, so bowyer will have to try something different, rovers always miss dunn's quality with the final ball, when he is not on the team, rovers results usually take a dip, other players miss those cutbacks from the by-line or them through balls that slice the whole defence. in the end its not about the number of attempts on goal, but how many times a move ends up with the keeper having scramble to make a save to keep the ball out because the shot has been on target, we need more players in the box when rhodes shots are being saved we need other players in the box for the follow up, instead of allowing their defenders to clear the danger without any worries "Once again we started the game too slowly and after around 1/2 hour we were 0 - 3 down to an average Championship side" exactly if we started each game flying, quick from the traps and first to every challenge, we'd be scoring earlier before theyve even settled, the other team will be more concerned about keeping us out than worrying how to start attacks of their own, in the panic they will be hoofing it out and giving it straight back with the pressure theyll be under[/p][/quote]I am glad you agree with my comments. However, I understand that there are times when it may be necessary to play two defensive / holding midfielders – such as in an away game against a top team. But what has been happening is that GB has been selecting them and playing 1 lone striker in home matches against lower opposition. Whilst I recognise that there is little between most teams in this division, if we are to have any ambitions of promotion this season we must attack teams at home from the start. The first goal gives the team confidence, gets the fans onside and forces the away team to change their formation making it a more open game of football. I can count on the fingers of one hand (and I am not a Dingle) how many times I have left Ewood this season feeling like I have enjoyed the game. And I know that I am not alone.[/p][/quote]Agree Riverside! But its what all true football fans have to put with. Supporting the team in good and bad times!!!!!! bluenick

4:21pm Mon 30 Dec 13

bluenick says...

Is Eckersley playing? wrote:
Keep your eyes open for deck chairs moving around Blackburn area between now and the Leeds match. Oh! Half season tickets still on sale, I believe, for al Venky lovers, buy one get ten free.
Got my comment taken off did you Eckersley you dingle?
[quote][p][bold]Is Eckersley playing?[/bold] wrote: Keep your eyes open for deck chairs moving around Blackburn area between now and the Leeds match. Oh! Half season tickets still on sale, I believe, for al Venky lovers, buy one get ten free.[/p][/quote]Got my comment taken off did you Eckersley you dingle? bluenick

4:27pm Mon 30 Dec 13

bluenick says...

bluerob wrote:
Paul E wrote:
Rich Riley wrote:
cboyer wrote:
scott dann is a disgrace the way he gripped our own keeper for making 1 mistake! dann makes more mistakes than anybody and has lost us loads of points wasnt a bad performance to be honest if we are all honest here we didnt deserve to get beat today
Is this right? I missed it!
I completely agree, Dann was out of order. Is this the superb team spirit Bowyer keeps talking about?
The football produced in the second lf was simply down to the change of formation and players playing in the correct position. Sorry to say, the manager does not have the tactical knowledge to move this club forward
I don't agree , it's about time we saw a few Mr Nasty's around. If people make stupid mistakes they need telling in no uncertain terms that this is not acceptable.
Right or wrong! does it not show that he cares about the team & results?
[quote][p][bold]bluerob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paul E[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rich Riley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cboyer[/bold] wrote: scott dann is a disgrace the way he gripped our own keeper for making 1 mistake! dann makes more mistakes than anybody and has lost us loads of points wasnt a bad performance to be honest if we are all honest here we didnt deserve to get beat today[/p][/quote]Is this right? I missed it![/p][/quote]I completely agree, Dann was out of order. Is this the superb team spirit Bowyer keeps talking about? The football produced in the second lf was simply down to the change of formation and players playing in the correct position. Sorry to say, the manager does not have the tactical knowledge to move this club forward[/p][/quote]I don't agree , it's about time we saw a few Mr Nasty's around. If people make stupid mistakes they need telling in no uncertain terms that this is not acceptable.[/p][/quote]Right or wrong! does it not show that he cares about the team & results? bluenick

5:03pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Stone Island: says...

bluenick wrote:
Riverside 7 wrote:
passingfootball wrote:
"Before the game a big groan went around the pub when the team was anounced.
Once again 2 holding players selected by GB for a home match, and both possess zero creativity.
Once again Cairney was wasted being played out wide."

lucky for you lowe is out for the next game due to suspension, so bowyer will have to try something different, rovers always miss dunn's quality with the final ball, when he is not on the team, rovers results usually take a dip, other players miss those cutbacks from the by-line or them through balls that slice the whole defence. in the end its not about the number of attempts on goal, but how many times a move ends up with the keeper having scramble to make a save to keep the ball out because the shot has been on target, we need more players in the box when rhodes shots are being saved we need other players in the box for the follow up, instead of allowing their defenders to clear the danger without any worries

"Once again we started the game too slowly and after around 1/2 hour we were 0 - 3 down to an average Championship side"

exactly if we started each game flying, quick from the traps and first to every challenge, we'd be scoring earlier before theyve even settled, the other team will be more concerned about keeping us out than worrying how to start attacks of their own, in the panic they will be hoofing it out and giving it straight back with the pressure theyll be under
I am glad you agree with my comments.

However, I understand that there are times when it may be necessary to play two defensive / holding midfielders – such as in an away game against a top team.

But what has been happening is that GB has been selecting them and playing 1 lone striker in home matches against lower opposition.
Whilst I recognise that there is little between most teams in this division, if we are to have any ambitions of promotion this season we must attack teams at home from the start.

The first goal gives the team confidence, gets the fans onside and forces the away team to change their formation making it a more open game of football.

I can count on the fingers of one hand (and I am not a Dingle) how many times I have left Ewood this season feeling like I have enjoyed the game. And I know that I am not alone.
Agree Riverside! But its what all true football fans have to put with. Supporting the team in good and bad times!!!!!!
Loyalty is one thing. Blind loyalty is something else.
[quote][p][bold]bluenick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]passingfootball[/bold] wrote: "Before the game a big groan went around the pub when the team was anounced. Once again 2 holding players selected by GB for a home match, and both possess zero creativity. Once again Cairney was wasted being played out wide." lucky for you lowe is out for the next game due to suspension, so bowyer will have to try something different, rovers always miss dunn's quality with the final ball, when he is not on the team, rovers results usually take a dip, other players miss those cutbacks from the by-line or them through balls that slice the whole defence. in the end its not about the number of attempts on goal, but how many times a move ends up with the keeper having scramble to make a save to keep the ball out because the shot has been on target, we need more players in the box when rhodes shots are being saved we need other players in the box for the follow up, instead of allowing their defenders to clear the danger without any worries "Once again we started the game too slowly and after around 1/2 hour we were 0 - 3 down to an average Championship side" exactly if we started each game flying, quick from the traps and first to every challenge, we'd be scoring earlier before theyve even settled, the other team will be more concerned about keeping us out than worrying how to start attacks of their own, in the panic they will be hoofing it out and giving it straight back with the pressure theyll be under[/p][/quote]I am glad you agree with my comments. However, I understand that there are times when it may be necessary to play two defensive / holding midfielders – such as in an away game against a top team. But what has been happening is that GB has been selecting them and playing 1 lone striker in home matches against lower opposition. Whilst I recognise that there is little between most teams in this division, if we are to have any ambitions of promotion this season we must attack teams at home from the start. The first goal gives the team confidence, gets the fans onside and forces the away team to change their formation making it a more open game of football. I can count on the fingers of one hand (and I am not a Dingle) how many times I have left Ewood this season feeling like I have enjoyed the game. And I know that I am not alone.[/p][/quote]Agree Riverside! But its what all true football fans have to put with. Supporting the team in good and bad times!!!!!![/p][/quote]Loyalty is one thing. Blind loyalty is something else. Stone Island:

7:00pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Manuel Hung says...

dean555 wrote:
My goodness! Have you heard yourselves!! We absolutely battered a supposedly inform Birmingham team and any other day would have hammered them! First goal, we could clear our lines, defenders fault, second player should have been closed down earlier, defenders fault, and third goal, ball should have been cleared by Hanley or Henley so defenders fault! How come it's bowyers fault? I haven't seen a more one sided game at Ewood, and we will play a lot worse In future and win! We are not a premier league team any more, so I wish people would stop talking like we have a given right to win games and go up!
When you say 'battered' do you mean going 3-0 down at half time and leaving with zero points?
You are right about a couple of things though. You are not a Premiere Leauge team & you don't have the right to go up.
[quote][p][bold]dean555[/bold] wrote: My goodness! Have you heard yourselves!! We absolutely battered a supposedly inform Birmingham team and any other day would have hammered them! First goal, we could clear our lines, defenders fault, second player should have been closed down earlier, defenders fault, and third goal, ball should have been cleared by Hanley or Henley so defenders fault! How come it's bowyers fault? I haven't seen a more one sided game at Ewood, and we will play a lot worse In future and win! We are not a premier league team any more, so I wish people would stop talking like we have a given right to win games and go up![/p][/quote]When you say 'battered' do you mean going 3-0 down at half time and leaving with zero points? You are right about a couple of things though. You are not a Premiere Leauge team & you don't have the right to go up. Manuel Hung

9:54pm Mon 30 Dec 13

kosmic karma says...

Calm down brethren... All is ordained. After much meditation, myself and the Mystic Meg, along with the soothsayer Jack (not to be confused with the Walker variant) Russel Grant terrier, foresee multiple possibilities.

After arcane divination, (also with the help of a libation and the reading of Bonios) by, Jack (not to be confused with the Walker variant), we foresee an interesting, but not unwelcome, outcome.

We predict:

January... Janus will be prevalent in all areas at Trashwood.(If you no dads don't have the IQ to google, he is just like Venky's, but was a Roman deity. clue, two faced.)

February ... The Bonio's speak of confusion and malcontent .. It is not clear, but Jack, (the Claret version), usually has a nose for these things and foresees penny pinching, food banking , and a diaspora of the Trampwood tribe, to pastures new. Confused, do the google stuff.

March... The Ides of.., This event has been set a week earlier, (thanks to Jack's ... not the Walker, but Russell, via Bonio power), to underpin the foregone demise that shall beset you). The 9' th is a troublesome day.... No dads , confused, follow google as per February.

We shall return with a future divination..."Jack, (not the Walker) but the Claret incarnation Russel Grant" feels that the force would be greater with a 30% boost of Winalot. We shall stay with Carling.

THE FUTURE IS BRIGHT, THE FUTURE IS CLARET!
Calm down brethren... All is ordained. After much meditation, myself and the Mystic Meg, along with the soothsayer Jack (not to be confused with the Walker variant) Russel Grant terrier, foresee multiple possibilities. After arcane divination, (also with the help of a libation and the reading of Bonios) by, Jack (not to be confused with the Walker variant), we foresee an interesting, but not unwelcome, outcome. We predict: January... Janus will be prevalent in all areas at Trashwood.(If you no dads don't have the IQ to google, he is just like Venky's, but was a Roman deity. clue, two faced.) February ... The Bonio's speak of confusion and malcontent .. It is not clear, but Jack, (the Claret version), usually has a nose for these things and foresees penny pinching, food banking , and a diaspora of the Trampwood tribe, to pastures new. Confused, do the google stuff. March... The Ides of.., This event has been set a week earlier, (thanks to Jack's ... not the Walker, but Russell, via Bonio power), to underpin the foregone demise that shall beset you). The 9' th is a troublesome day.... No dads , confused, follow google as per February. We shall return with a future divination..."Jack, (not the Walker) but the Claret incarnation Russel Grant" feels that the force would be greater with a 30% boost of Winalot. We shall stay with Carling. THE FUTURE IS BRIGHT, THE FUTURE IS CLARET! kosmic karma

6:47am Tue 31 Dec 13

greenscreener says...

Oh how hilarious, you clearly have a talent for entertaining.....you
rself.
Oh how hilarious, you clearly have a talent for entertaining.....you rself. greenscreener

10:48am Tue 31 Dec 13

zulu_sotv says...

Birmingham actually were pretty fortunate to win.
First bit of luck we've had all season.
As long as you hang on to Rhodes and get Robinson back in goal, you won't be far away from the Play-offs.
Birmingham actually were pretty fortunate to win. First bit of luck we've had all season. As long as you hang on to Rhodes and get Robinson back in goal, you won't be far away from the Play-offs. zulu_sotv

4:18pm Tue 31 Dec 13

bluenick says...

Stone Island: wrote:
bluenick wrote:
Riverside 7 wrote:
passingfootball wrote:
"Before the game a big groan went around the pub when the team was anounced.
Once again 2 holding players selected by GB for a home match, and both possess zero creativity.
Once again Cairney was wasted being played out wide."

lucky for you lowe is out for the next game due to suspension, so bowyer will have to try something different, rovers always miss dunn's quality with the final ball, when he is not on the team, rovers results usually take a dip, other players miss those cutbacks from the by-line or them through balls that slice the whole defence. in the end its not about the number of attempts on goal, but how many times a move ends up with the keeper having scramble to make a save to keep the ball out because the shot has been on target, we need more players in the box when rhodes shots are being saved we need other players in the box for the follow up, instead of allowing their defenders to clear the danger without any worries

"Once again we started the game too slowly and after around 1/2 hour we were 0 - 3 down to an average Championship side"

exactly if we started each game flying, quick from the traps and first to every challenge, we'd be scoring earlier before theyve even settled, the other team will be more concerned about keeping us out than worrying how to start attacks of their own, in the panic they will be hoofing it out and giving it straight back with the pressure theyll be under
I am glad you agree with my comments.

However, I understand that there are times when it may be necessary to play two defensive / holding midfielders – such as in an away game against a top team.

But what has been happening is that GB has been selecting them and playing 1 lone striker in home matches against lower opposition.
Whilst I recognise that there is little between most teams in this division, if we are to have any ambitions of promotion this season we must attack teams at home from the start.

The first goal gives the team confidence, gets the fans onside and forces the away team to change their formation making it a more open game of football.

I can count on the fingers of one hand (and I am not a Dingle) how many times I have left Ewood this season feeling like I have enjoyed the game. And I know that I am not alone.
Agree Riverside! But its what all true football fans have to put with. Supporting the team in good and bad times!!!!!!
Loyalty is one thing. Blind loyalty is something else.
Yep ! Its easy to be loyal when the team you support are winning the Premier League Stoney !!!
[quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bluenick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]passingfootball[/bold] wrote: "Before the game a big groan went around the pub when the team was anounced. Once again 2 holding players selected by GB for a home match, and both possess zero creativity. Once again Cairney was wasted being played out wide." lucky for you lowe is out for the next game due to suspension, so bowyer will have to try something different, rovers always miss dunn's quality with the final ball, when he is not on the team, rovers results usually take a dip, other players miss those cutbacks from the by-line or them through balls that slice the whole defence. in the end its not about the number of attempts on goal, but how many times a move ends up with the keeper having scramble to make a save to keep the ball out because the shot has been on target, we need more players in the box when rhodes shots are being saved we need other players in the box for the follow up, instead of allowing their defenders to clear the danger without any worries "Once again we started the game too slowly and after around 1/2 hour we were 0 - 3 down to an average Championship side" exactly if we started each game flying, quick from the traps and first to every challenge, we'd be scoring earlier before theyve even settled, the other team will be more concerned about keeping us out than worrying how to start attacks of their own, in the panic they will be hoofing it out and giving it straight back with the pressure theyll be under[/p][/quote]I am glad you agree with my comments. However, I understand that there are times when it may be necessary to play two defensive / holding midfielders – such as in an away game against a top team. But what has been happening is that GB has been selecting them and playing 1 lone striker in home matches against lower opposition. Whilst I recognise that there is little between most teams in this division, if we are to have any ambitions of promotion this season we must attack teams at home from the start. The first goal gives the team confidence, gets the fans onside and forces the away team to change their formation making it a more open game of football. I can count on the fingers of one hand (and I am not a Dingle) how many times I have left Ewood this season feeling like I have enjoyed the game. And I know that I am not alone.[/p][/quote]Agree Riverside! But its what all true football fans have to put with. Supporting the team in good and bad times!!!!!![/p][/quote]Loyalty is one thing. Blind loyalty is something else.[/p][/quote]Yep ! Its easy to be loyal when the team you support are winning the Premier League Stoney !!! bluenick

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