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Former bosses Kendall and Lee hit out at Ewood freefall
5:33pm Thursday 21st March 2013 in Sport By Tony Dewhurst, Features Writer
HAPPIER TIMES Howard Kendall during his time as manager of Blackburn
HOWARD Kendall, who managed Blackburn Rovers from 1979 until 1981, fears his old club is heading for disaster under controversial owners Venky’s.
Michael Appleton’s shock sacking stunned the football world following his dismissal after just 67 days in charge at Ewood Park.
“What’s happening at Blackburn is outrageous – it is one of the saddest chapters I’ve ever witnessed in football,” said Kendall.
“It is mind-boggling. How can you sack a manager three months into a job? There just doesn’t seem to be any logic in anything the owners do when it comes to making football decisions.
“It is heartbreaking to see the club fall so far, from an established Premier League club a few years ago to this calamity.”
Kendall, who steered Blackburn from the lower reaches of the Third Division to promotion, later guided Everton to the League Championship, the FA Cup and the European Cup Winners’ Cup.
“Managing Blackburn seems an impossible job right now, but somebody will take it,” he said.
“They’ve obviously not done their homework in the past when it has come to appointing managers, though, because it is crying out for an experienced man to stamp his authority on the club.
“I just hope they get the next appointment right, because for the fans it must feel to them like the heart of the club has been ripped out.”
Another ex-Ewood Park manager Gordon Lee said: “I just can’t believe what is going on at my old club – it is a most incredible mess and it pains me to see Blackburn in such a terrible state.
“The people who run the club don’t seem to have a clue what they are doing.
“The whole thing is complete madness and unacceptable.”
Lee, who also bossed Newcastle United, Everton and Preston, added: “You need a couple of years to turn a club around, but the last lad Appleton got a few weeks and that’s crazy.
“The owners can do what they want with their money – but somebody needs to bring some sense to the situation because Blackburn are in freefall.
“Maybe the owners are on an ego trip, but a proud football club like Blackburn is not a play thing.
“It is something to cherish, a club of great tradition and they don’t seem to respect that “It is a town with a hard core of genuine and knowledgeable supporters. I can understand their anger with what has happened at Ewood.
“To have any hope of achieving success you need stability at a football club, but Blackburn’s in total chaos and I worry they could go into bankruptcy if this continues.”
Lee was the first Blackburn manager since Bob Crompton, in 1938-39, to win a divisional title for the club when he led Rovers to the old Third Championship in 1975.
And he believes a number of Rovers’ previous players and managers will feel the same sense of disappointment in what is going on at Ewood Park as he now does.
He added: “I signed players like Ken Beamish and Tony Parkes. Tony went on to manage Blackburn as caretaker. He was my chief midfielder and a great bloke “I wonder what they think about this sad situation. Like me, they must be very sad indeed.”
Graeme Souness, who guided Rovers back to the Premier League a decade ago and saw them win the League Cup under his tenure in 2002, said: “I don’t want to talk about it – it is very sad to see. It upsets me too much.”
Comments(83)
RoversMCMLXXV
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5:52pm Thu 21 Mar 13
maltese blue n white
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5:55pm Thu 21 Mar 13
gaylegarnerkennedy wrote:Whilst I totally agree that we need a strong manager (maybe Souness) I also would like to see the Venky's departure, but. Where would we be then? Although completely incompetent, it's their money that's keeping us afloat. The solution would be to get rid of Shaw Agnew and Shebby the snake... And appoint one director with a proven record (forget J Williams he would never work for these clowns) then hire a manager with a proven record. Venky's could then step back and watch the phoenix "rise from the ashes"
Souness is the man to sort this mess out, should have been appointed as soon as Kean walked.
VENKEYS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB
Problem is... no-one can talk sense to the Venky's... They just don't listen...
Blimey!
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6:11pm Thu 21 Mar 13
Harwoodstblue
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6:12pm Thu 21 Mar 13
maltese blue n white wrote:Hi maltese blue and white
gaylegarnerkennedy wrote:Whilst I totally agree that we need a strong manager (maybe Souness) I also would like to see the Venky's departure, but. Where would we be then? Although completely incompetent, it's their money that's keeping us afloat. The solution would be to get rid of Shaw Agnew and Shebby the snake... And appoint one director with a proven record (forget J Williams he would never work for these clowns) then hire a manager with a proven record. Venky's could then step back and watch the phoenix "rise from the ashes"
Souness is the man to sort this mess out, should have been appointed as soon as Kean walked.
VENKEYS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB
Problem is... no-one can talk sense to the Venky's... They just don't listen...
Why do we not want rid of Venkys now? It's going to come to an inevitable end sooner or later. why prolong it? They have no intention of taking the club forward , even if they were capable, they've had plenty of chance to do that.
Get rid of the B'stards now and start again. I think they'll be off next season anyway when they see the size of the 'crowds' on the ground. If they were shocked this season, they will be next.
madrover
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6:17pm Thu 21 Mar 13
maltese blue n white wrote:not sticking up for venky's but i do think that shaw ,agnew and singh feed them that much s**t that they don't know any different . they should fire all three and get someone like peter kenyon who knows how to run a club
gaylegarnerkennedy wrote:Whilst I totally agree that we need a strong manager (maybe Souness) I also would like to see the Venky's departure, but. Where would we be then? Although completely incompetent, it's their money that's keeping us afloat. The solution would be to get rid of Shaw Agnew and Shebby the snake... And appoint one director with a proven record (forget J Williams he would never work for these clowns) then hire a manager with a proven record. Venky's could then step back and watch the phoenix "rise from the ashes"
Souness is the man to sort this mess out, should have been appointed as soon as Kean walked.
VENKEYS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB
Problem is... no-one can talk sense to the Venky's... They just don't listen...
Blimey!
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6:24pm Thu 21 Mar 13
Harwoodstblue
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6:27pm Thu 21 Mar 13
Blimey! wrote:Well said. We need them out. An empty ground will humiliate them.
What I can't understand is why do people keep bleating on about Venkys, yet continue to line their pockets by attending matches. All they are doing is perpetuating the madness! Forget misplaced loyalty to the club, it's too late for that, people should vote with their feet and not spend another penny at the club until Venkysy realise there is no money to be made out of it. Only then would they consider cutting their losses and selling up. So what if the club is relegated again, with the right owners and management team the club would rise again, as they have before. Short term pain, long term gain. Simple! I would go as far as to say it is DIS-loyal to the club to allow the situation to continue.
maltese blue n white
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6:31pm Thu 21 Mar 13
Harwoodstblue wrote:Because without anyone to take over (forget BRAG/BRITSIT they couldn't raise the money) we are losing around 2 mil per month.. whilst the Venky's stay the banks will chase them for the monies.... If they don't pay they not only lose face but all credibility throughout their many ventures... So my guess would be that they in a corner as much as we are... If as you believe "they walk out next season... the debt they leave will be less than the debt should they leave now.... The cavalry are not about to come charging over the hill to save us.... hate to say it... but. Better the devil you know.
maltese blue n white wrote:Hi maltese blue and white
gaylegarnerkennedy wrote:Whilst I totally agree that we need a strong manager (maybe Souness) I also would like to see the Venky's departure, but. Where would we be then? Although completely incompetent, it's their money that's keeping us afloat. The solution would be to get rid of Shaw Agnew and Shebby the snake... And appoint one director with a proven record (forget J Williams he would never work for these clowns) then hire a manager with a proven record. Venky's could then step back and watch the phoenix "rise from the ashes"
Souness is the man to sort this mess out, should have been appointed as soon as Kean walked.
VENKEYS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB
Problem is... no-one can talk sense to the Venky's... They just don't listen...
Why do we not want rid of Venkys now? It's going to come to an inevitable end sooner or later. why prolong it? They have no intention of taking the club forward , even if they were capable, they've had plenty of chance to do that.
Get rid of the B'stards now and start again. I think they'll be off next season anyway when they see the size of the 'crowds' on the ground. If they were shocked this season, they will be next.
ashman
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6:36pm Thu 21 Mar 13
Harwoodstblue
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6:36pm Thu 21 Mar 13
maltese blue n white wrote:I understand what you mean but if they just 'dump' us anyway and walk away, we would only be in the same position as IF they were forced out.
Harwoodstblue wrote:Because without anyone to take over (forget BRAG/BRITSIT they couldn't raise the money) we are losing around 2 mil per month.. whilst the Venky's stay the banks will chase them for the monies.... If they don't pay they not only lose face but all credibility throughout their many ventures... So my guess would be that they in a corner as much as we are... If as you believe "they walk out next season... the debt they leave will be less than the debt should they leave now.... The cavalry are not about to come charging over the hill to save us.... hate to say it... but. Better the devil you know.
maltese blue n white wrote:Hi maltese blue and white
gaylegarnerkennedy wrote:Whilst I totally agree that we need a strong manager (maybe Souness) I also would like to see the Venky's departure, but. Where would we be then? Although completely incompetent, it's their money that's keeping us afloat. The solution would be to get rid of Shaw Agnew and Shebby the snake... And appoint one director with a proven record (forget J Williams he would never work for these clowns) then hire a manager with a proven record. Venky's could then step back and watch the phoenix "rise from the ashes"
Souness is the man to sort this mess out, should have been appointed as soon as Kean walked.
VENKEYS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB
Problem is... no-one can talk sense to the Venky's... They just don't listen...
Why do we not want rid of Venkys now? It's going to come to an inevitable end sooner or later. why prolong it? They have no intention of taking the club forward , even if they were capable, they've had plenty of chance to do that.
Get rid of the B'stards now and start again. I think they'll be off next season anyway when they see the size of the 'crowds' on the ground. If they were shocked this season, they will be next.
maltese blue n white
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6:39pm Thu 21 Mar 13
Harwoodstblue wrote:I agree.... an empty ground would indeed humiliate them..... But then Riddled with debt, a squad of has beens and no fans.... WHO WOULD BUY THE CLUB?
Blimey! wrote:Well said. We need them out. An empty ground will humiliate them.
What I can't understand is why do people keep bleating on about Venkys, yet continue to line their pockets by attending matches. All they are doing is perpetuating the madness! Forget misplaced loyalty to the club, it's too late for that, people should vote with their feet and not spend another penny at the club until Venkysy realise there is no money to be made out of it. Only then would they consider cutting their losses and selling up. So what if the club is relegated again, with the right owners and management team the club would rise again, as they have before. Short term pain, long term gain. Simple! I would go as far as to say it is DIS-loyal to the club to allow the situation to continue.
The Walker trust touted the club all over and could not find a buyer... that was with a proven manager, the best boardroom in the country, and a squad of players worthy of the PL... And the only buyers were the Venky's....
maltese blue n white
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6:44pm Thu 21 Mar 13
Harwoodstblue wrote:they aint dumped us yet. And clueless and inept as they are i hope they don't soon.... cos if they do we aint even got a canoe... let alone a ferkin paddle..
maltese blue n white wrote:I understand what you mean but if they just 'dump' us anyway and walk away, we would only be in the same position as IF they were forced out.
Harwoodstblue wrote:Because without anyone to take over (forget BRAG/BRITSIT they couldn't raise the money) we are losing around 2 mil per month.. whilst the Venky's stay the banks will chase them for the monies.... If they don't pay they not only lose face but all credibility throughout their many ventures... So my guess would be that they in a corner as much as we are... If as you believe "they walk out next season... the debt they leave will be less than the debt should they leave now.... The cavalry are not about to come charging over the hill to save us.... hate to say it... but. Better the devil you know.
maltese blue n white wrote:Hi maltese blue and white
gaylegarnerkennedy wrote:Whilst I totally agree that we need a strong manager (maybe Souness) I also would like to see the Venky's departure, but. Where would we be then? Although completely incompetent, it's their money that's keeping us afloat. The solution would be to get rid of Shaw Agnew and Shebby the snake... And appoint one director with a proven record (forget J Williams he would never work for these clowns) then hire a manager with a proven record. Venky's could then step back and watch the phoenix "rise from the ashes"
Souness is the man to sort this mess out, should have been appointed as soon as Kean walked.
VENKEYS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB
Problem is... no-one can talk sense to the Venky's... They just don't listen...
Why do we not want rid of Venkys now? It's going to come to an inevitable end sooner or later. why prolong it? They have no intention of taking the club forward , even if they were capable, they've had plenty of chance to do that.
Get rid of the B'stards now and start again. I think they'll be off next season anyway when they see the size of the 'crowds' on the ground. If they were shocked this season, they will be next.
jogalot
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6:55pm Thu 21 Mar 13
It's easy to blame, blame, blame but it doesn't help unless it brings positive changes. If there's anyone to blame it is Kean and all that has followed has been mainly because of his total *&%,;*@£$***
Come on Venkys. Listen and learn.
Harwoodstblue
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7:10pm Thu 21 Mar 13
maltese blue n white wrote:I'm with you...:-)
Harwoodstblue wrote:they aint dumped us yet. And clueless and inept as they are i hope they don't soon.... cos if they do we aint even got a canoe... let alone a ferkin paddle..
maltese blue n white wrote:I understand what you mean but if they just 'dump' us anyway and walk away, we would only be in the same position as IF they were forced out.
Harwoodstblue wrote:Because without anyone to take over (forget BRAG/BRITSIT they couldn't raise the money) we are losing around 2 mil per month.. whilst the Venky's stay the banks will chase them for the monies.... If they don't pay they not only lose face but all credibility throughout their many ventures... So my guess would be that they in a corner as much as we are... If as you believe "they walk out next season... the debt they leave will be less than the debt should they leave now.... The cavalry are not about to come charging over the hill to save us.... hate to say it... but. Better the devil you know.
maltese blue n white wrote:Hi maltese blue and white
gaylegarnerkennedy wrote:Whilst I totally agree that we need a strong manager (maybe Souness) I also would like to see the Venky's departure, but. Where would we be then? Although completely incompetent, it's their money that's keeping us afloat. The solution would be to get rid of Shaw Agnew and Shebby the snake... And appoint one director with a proven record (forget J Williams he would never work for these clowns) then hire a manager with a proven record. Venky's could then step back and watch the phoenix "rise from the ashes"
Souness is the man to sort this mess out, should have been appointed as soon as Kean walked.
VENKEYS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB
Problem is... no-one can talk sense to the Venky's... They just don't listen...
Why do we not want rid of Venkys now? It's going to come to an inevitable end sooner or later. why prolong it? They have no intention of taking the club forward , even if they were capable, they've had plenty of chance to do that.
Get rid of the B'stards now and start again. I think they'll be off next season anyway when they see the size of the 'crowds' on the ground. If they were shocked this season, they will be next.
bpoolrover
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7:23pm Thu 21 Mar 13
leitchy
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7:29pm Thu 21 Mar 13
There name is now all over the world....and let's face it that's why they bought the club "to go global" ??
All publicity is good publicity to some people?
A Rover 45 years and over
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7:40pm Thu 21 Mar 13
forever_rovers
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7:52pm Thu 21 Mar 13
We need a white knight bidder ASAP!
maltese blue n white
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8:03pm Thu 21 Mar 13
forever_rovers wrote:the prob is.... for every good guy that could buy the club there are probably 10 bad ones with motives of their own...... Venky's are clearly stupid when it comes to football, and the people they choose to advise them.... But so far have kept the club afloat..... albeit precariously.... be careful what you wish for...
Considering the speed with which Rovers are now falling down the league, losing fans and collecting multi-million pound liabilities I can only see one thing coming: administration.
We need a white knight bidder ASAP!
merlinrabbit
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8:11pm Thu 21 Mar 13
maltese blue n white wrote:Do we definitely know they were the only buyers or where they the only buyers who would pay what the Walker family wanted?
Harwoodstblue wrote:I agree.... an empty ground would indeed humiliate them..... But then Riddled with debt, a squad of has beens and no fans.... WHO WOULD BUY THE CLUB?
Blimey! wrote:Well said. We need them out. An empty ground will humiliate them.
What I can't understand is why do people keep bleating on about Venkys, yet continue to line their pockets by attending matches. All they are doing is perpetuating the madness! Forget misplaced loyalty to the club, it's too late for that, people should vote with their feet and not spend another penny at the club until Venkysy realise there is no money to be made out of it. Only then would they consider cutting their losses and selling up. So what if the club is relegated again, with the right owners and management team the club would rise again, as they have before. Short term pain, long term gain. Simple! I would go as far as to say it is DIS-loyal to the club to allow the situation to continue.
The Walker trust touted the club all over and could not find a buyer... that was with a proven manager, the best boardroom in the country, and a squad of players worthy of the PL... And the only buyers were the Venky's....
merlinrabbit
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8:16pm Thu 21 Mar 13
jogalot wrote:I agree. That man has a lot to answer for. He caused endless damage. Endless. It was 2 years of being overseen by increasing delusion and increasing control and manipulation of the owners. He was a total +=£"&^%$~@
I can't see anybody else buying Rovers and Venkys have put money in (I think, but perhaps it's all parachute payments, transfers etc, I haven't worked it out). Appleton could really talk the talk. Berg was a loyal Rover. Kean was something else. But all 3 did not have a successful proven managerial record. We've cried out for it for 2 years but Venky's have not listened. If they listen now and appoint such a manager, then Rovers have a chance and to stay up and get promotion again next year.
It's easy to blame, blame, blame but it doesn't help unless it brings positive changes. If there's anyone to blame it is Kean and all that has followed has been mainly because of his total *&%,;*@£$***
Come on Venkys. Listen and learn.
merlinrabbit
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8:20pm Thu 21 Mar 13
gaylegarnerkennedy wrote:Wish Souness would speak up and other more prominent ex and current footballers. Problem is, for two years all of these people were too busy sympathising with Steve Kean, slagging off the fans and questioning what they knew about football. Now most of them are admitting that it is actually a mess and the fans were right after all. I've read two articles in the nationals this week saying as much. One actually stated that the Rovers fans must be wondering what might have been had they got the support they are now getting from media and other fans.
Souness is the man to sort this mess out, should have been appointed as soon as Kean walked.
VENKEYS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB
maltese blue n white
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8:20pm Thu 21 Mar 13
merlinrabbit wrote:who really knows..... but for 3 yrs the Walkers could not offload B/burn, and thats the only fact that really counts... Much as dislike what they have done to the club, "at this moment we are better with than without the Venky's" Unless of course the cavalry/white knight or whatever is about to come charging over the hill.....
maltese blue n white wrote:Do we definitely know they were the only buyers or where they the only buyers who would pay what the Walker family wanted?
Harwoodstblue wrote:I agree.... an empty ground would indeed humiliate them..... But then Riddled with debt, a squad of has beens and no fans.... WHO WOULD BUY THE CLUB?
Blimey! wrote:Well said. We need them out. An empty ground will humiliate them.
What I can't understand is why do people keep bleating on about Venkys, yet continue to line their pockets by attending matches. All they are doing is perpetuating the madness! Forget misplaced loyalty to the club, it's too late for that, people should vote with their feet and not spend another penny at the club until Venkysy realise there is no money to be made out of it. Only then would they consider cutting their losses and selling up. So what if the club is relegated again, with the right owners and management team the club would rise again, as they have before. Short term pain, long term gain. Simple! I would go as far as to say it is DIS-loyal to the club to allow the situation to continue.
The Walker trust touted the club all over and could not find a buyer... that was with a proven manager, the best boardroom in the country, and a squad of players worthy of the PL... And the only buyers were the Venky's....
merlinrabbit
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8:23pm Thu 21 Mar 13
maltese blue n white wrote:It's hard to think that we are better off with Venkys though. They have ruined our club and will probably continue to ruin it with their inept ownership and ill thought out decisions and their total disregard for their customers - us.
merlinrabbit wrote:who really knows..... but for 3 yrs the Walkers could not offload B/burn, and thats the only fact that really counts... Much as dislike what they have done to the club, "at this moment we are better with than without the Venky's" Unless of course the cavalry/white knight or whatever is about to come charging over the hill.....
maltese blue n white wrote:Do we definitely know they were the only buyers or where they the only buyers who would pay what the Walker family wanted?
Harwoodstblue wrote:I agree.... an empty ground would indeed humiliate them..... But then Riddled with debt, a squad of has beens and no fans.... WHO WOULD BUY THE CLUB?
Blimey! wrote:Well said. We need them out. An empty ground will humiliate them.
What I can't understand is why do people keep bleating on about Venkys, yet continue to line their pockets by attending matches. All they are doing is perpetuating the madness! Forget misplaced loyalty to the club, it's too late for that, people should vote with their feet and not spend another penny at the club until Venkysy realise there is no money to be made out of it. Only then would they consider cutting their losses and selling up. So what if the club is relegated again, with the right owners and management team the club would rise again, as they have before. Short term pain, long term gain. Simple! I would go as far as to say it is DIS-loyal to the club to allow the situation to continue.
The Walker trust touted the club all over and could not find a buyer... that was with a proven manager, the best boardroom in the country, and a squad of players worthy of the PL... And the only buyers were the Venky's....
maltese blue n white
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8:28pm Thu 21 Mar 13
merlinrabbit wrote:Totally agree buddy..... and yes... they inept, but (and I could be wrong) I don't think they crooks.... Idiots maybe.. but maybe even idiots can learn????
maltese blue n white wrote:It's hard to think that we are better off with Venkys though. They have ruined our club and will probably continue to ruin it with their inept ownership and ill thought out decisions and their total disregard for their customers - us.
merlinrabbit wrote:who really knows..... but for 3 yrs the Walkers could not offload B/burn, and thats the only fact that really counts... Much as dislike what they have done to the club, "at this moment we are better with than without the Venky's" Unless of course the cavalry/white knight or whatever is about to come charging over the hill.....
maltese blue n white wrote:Do we definitely know they were the only buyers or where they the only buyers who would pay what the Walker family wanted?
Harwoodstblue wrote:I agree.... an empty ground would indeed humiliate them..... But then Riddled with debt, a squad of has beens and no fans.... WHO WOULD BUY THE CLUB?
Blimey! wrote:Well said. We need them out. An empty ground will humiliate them.
What I can't understand is why do people keep bleating on about Venkys, yet continue to line their pockets by attending matches. All they are doing is perpetuating the madness! Forget misplaced loyalty to the club, it's too late for that, people should vote with their feet and not spend another penny at the club until Venkysy realise there is no money to be made out of it. Only then would they consider cutting their losses and selling up. So what if the club is relegated again, with the right owners and management team the club would rise again, as they have before. Short term pain, long term gain. Simple! I would go as far as to say it is DIS-loyal to the club to allow the situation to continue.
The Walker trust touted the club all over and could not find a buyer... that was with a proven manager, the best boardroom in the country, and a squad of players worthy of the PL... And the only buyers were the Venky's....
indiana patel
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8:45pm Thu 21 Mar 13
John Williams is the only man could save Blackburn Rovers FC from those Indians Venkys .Venkys have ruined our club relegated in Championship about 10,000 fans are staying way . There is a crisis in Ewood Park now who would want to be a manager of Rovers after all the sackings thats three managers in 8 months.Relegation is looming now and Rovers cannot win games and Rovers might be heading in League one like Leeds.
Venkys should sell up and go back where they came from they are not intrested in football club and take all these clowns with you Shaw,Agnew,Shebby Hendry and Modan.
merlinrabbit
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8:45pm Thu 21 Mar 13
maltese blue n white wrote:I think they have learning difficulties if they havent learned by now. Their mistakes are constantly plastered across the national media and their other mistakes are constantly suing them in court.
merlinrabbit wrote:Totally agree buddy..... and yes... they inept, but (and I could be wrong) I don't think they crooks.... Idiots maybe.. but maybe even idiots can learn????
maltese blue n white wrote:It's hard to think that we are better off with Venkys though. They have ruined our club and will probably continue to ruin it with their inept ownership and ill thought out decisions and their total disregard for their customers - us.
merlinrabbit wrote:who really knows..... but for 3 yrs the Walkers could not offload B/burn, and thats the only fact that really counts... Much as dislike what they have done to the club, "at this moment we are better with than without the Venky's" Unless of course the cavalry/white knight or whatever is about to come charging over the hill.....
maltese blue n white wrote:Do we definitely know they were the only buyers or where they the only buyers who would pay what the Walker family wanted?
Harwoodstblue wrote:I agree.... an empty ground would indeed humiliate them..... But then Riddled with debt, a squad of has beens and no fans.... WHO WOULD BUY THE CLUB?
Blimey! wrote:Well said. We need them out. An empty ground will humiliate them.
What I can't understand is why do people keep bleating on about Venkys, yet continue to line their pockets by attending matches. All they are doing is perpetuating the madness! Forget misplaced loyalty to the club, it's too late for that, people should vote with their feet and not spend another penny at the club until Venkysy realise there is no money to be made out of it. Only then would they consider cutting their losses and selling up. So what if the club is relegated again, with the right owners and management team the club would rise again, as they have before. Short term pain, long term gain. Simple! I would go as far as to say it is DIS-loyal to the club to allow the situation to continue.
The Walker trust touted the club all over and could not find a buyer... that was with a proven manager, the best boardroom in the country, and a squad of players worthy of the PL... And the only buyers were the Venky's....
maltese blue n white
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8:50pm Thu 21 Mar 13
merlinrabbit wrote:looking at the 2 brothers I think learning to read could be a few yrs away yet.... someone got to show them how to dress themselves first..... Been a good night on here... First time had a chance to talk Rovers in ages, without the bile of our neighbours down the road on every comment..
maltese blue n white wrote:I think they have learning difficulties if they havent learned by now. Their mistakes are constantly plastered across the national media and their other mistakes are constantly suing them in court.
merlinrabbit wrote:Totally agree buddy..... and yes... they inept, but (and I could be wrong) I don't think they crooks.... Idiots maybe.. but maybe even idiots can learn????
maltese blue n white wrote:It's hard to think that we are better off with Venkys though. They have ruined our club and will probably continue to ruin it with their inept ownership and ill thought out decisions and their total disregard for their customers - us.
merlinrabbit wrote:who really knows..... but for 3 yrs the Walkers could not offload B/burn, and thats the only fact that really counts... Much as dislike what they have done to the club, "at this moment we are better with than without the Venky's" Unless of course the cavalry/white knight or whatever is about to come charging over the hill.....
maltese blue n white wrote:Do we definitely know they were the only buyers or where they the only buyers who would pay what the Walker family wanted?
Harwoodstblue wrote:I agree.... an empty ground would indeed humiliate them..... But then Riddled with debt, a squad of has beens and no fans.... WHO WOULD BUY THE CLUB?
Blimey! wrote:Well said. We need them out. An empty ground will humiliate them.
What I can't understand is why do people keep bleating on about Venkys, yet continue to line their pockets by attending matches. All they are doing is perpetuating the madness! Forget misplaced loyalty to the club, it's too late for that, people should vote with their feet and not spend another penny at the club until Venkysy realise there is no money to be made out of it. Only then would they consider cutting their losses and selling up. So what if the club is relegated again, with the right owners and management team the club would rise again, as they have before. Short term pain, long term gain. Simple! I would go as far as to say it is DIS-loyal to the club to allow the situation to continue.
The Walker trust touted the club all over and could not find a buyer... that was with a proven manager, the best boardroom in the country, and a squad of players worthy of the PL... And the only buyers were the Venky's....
maltese blue n white
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8:53pm Thu 21 Mar 13
indiana patel wrote:go away.... John Williams???? where did you get this drivel from????
John Williams is heading a consortium from Middle East to buy back Rovers from Venkys.
John Williams is the only man could save Blackburn Rovers FC from those Indians Venkys .Venkys have ruined our club relegated in Championship about 10,000 fans are staying way . There is a crisis in Ewood Park now who would want to be a manager of Rovers after all the sackings thats three managers in 8 months.Relegation is looming now and Rovers cannot win games and Rovers might be heading in League one like Leeds.
Venkys should sell up and go back where they came from they are not intrested in football club and take all these clowns with you Shaw,Agnew,Shebby Hendry and Modan.
pls supply proof....
philmoulden
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9:01pm Thu 21 Mar 13
just my opinion
how do we gt rid ofthe venkys ,thats what we should be discussing,, the venkys staying is not an option
rover n out
philmoulden
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9:02pm Thu 21 Mar 13
RoversSwiss
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9:16pm Thu 21 Mar 13
All the problems can be solved by appointing a decent manager.
Kean, Berg and Appelton were all surprise appointments. At first we were optimistic with Appelton, he talked a lot of sense, but the performances and results were diabolical. We would definitely have been relegated under Appelton, I don't think they had any choice but to sack him. I would like to hear how he thought he was getting the best out of Jordan Rhodes. He took over a good team at Blackpool and stopped them from scoring as well!
Team GB is our best chance of avoiding relegation, hopefully next time they will appoint a good experienced manager - Adkins would be my choice.
Without Venkys we have no chance of returning to the Premiership because we have no money. If by a slim chance Venkys learn from their mistakes then we have a chance of promotion at some time in the future.
Forever Blue
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9:21pm Thu 21 Mar 13
And ????????????????????
? what Howard
Tell us something we dont already know.
greenscreener
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9:22pm Thu 21 Mar 13
If I may step away from the train wreck that our club has become for a moment, by strange co-incidence these are two guys who both managed one of my heroes, ex-Rovers left back, John Bailey.
I heard today on the radio that JB has been seriously ill recently but is now recovering.
If anbody out there is in touch with JB please pass on our best wishes and let him know he's not forgotten by the faithful down at Ewood Park.
maltese blue n white
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9:24pm Thu 21 Mar 13
RoversSwiss wrote:totally agreed Swiss.... boycotts, pitch invasions etc will see BRFC turned into a Tesco.... And wouldn't the numpties at the end of the m65 just love that!
You have to be mad to think anyone would buy the Rovers from Venkys. People still calling for boycotts is the stupidest thing ever.
All the problems can be solved by appointing a decent manager.
Kean, Berg and Appelton were all surprise appointments. At first we were optimistic with Appelton, he talked a lot of sense, but the performances and results were diabolical. We would definitely have been relegated under Appelton, I don't think they had any choice but to sack him. I would like to hear how he thought he was getting the best out of Jordan Rhodes. He took over a good team at Blackpool and stopped them from scoring as well!
Team GB is our best chance of avoiding relegation, hopefully next time they will appoint a good experienced manager - Adkins would be my choice.
Without Venkys we have no chance of returning to the Premiership because we have no money. If by a slim chance Venkys learn from their mistakes then we have a chance of promotion at some time in the future.
Can understand the anger felt by the fans... Who wouldn't be angry?
But we can't turn back time, nor will we always get what we wish for...
So. Venky's it is.... just hope they learned on lesson 3.
maltese blue n white
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9:27pm Thu 21 Mar 13
greenscreener wrote:Well said....
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If I may step away from the train wreck that our club has become for a moment, by strange co-incidence these are two guys who both managed one of my heroes, ex-Rovers left back, John Bailey.
I heard today on the radio that JB has been seriously ill recently but is now recovering.
If anbody out there is in touch with JB please pass on our best wishes and let him know he's not forgotten by the faithful down at Ewood Park.
Nuttall Street
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9:36pm Thu 21 Mar 13
Harwoodstblue wrote:Hear, hear!
Blimey! wrote:Well said. We need them out. An empty ground will humiliate them.
What I can't understand is why do people keep bleating on about Venkys, yet continue to line their pockets by attending matches. All they are doing is perpetuating the madness! Forget misplaced loyalty to the club, it's too late for that, people should vote with their feet and not spend another penny at the club until Venkysy realise there is no money to be made out of it. Only then would they consider cutting their losses and selling up. So what if the club is relegated again, with the right owners and management team the club would rise again, as they have before. Short term pain, long term gain. Simple! I would go as far as to say it is DIS-loyal to the club to allow the situation to continue.
Prophil
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9:49pm Thu 21 Mar 13
philmoulden
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9:52pm Thu 21 Mar 13
maltese blue n white wrote:All the problems COULD be solved if they install a good manager , getting rid of venkys WILL solve the problem .
RoversSwiss wrote:totally agreed Swiss.... boycotts, pitch invasions etc will see BRFC turned into a Tesco.... And wouldn't the numpties at the end of the m65 just love that!
You have to be mad to think anyone would buy the Rovers from Venkys. People still calling for boycotts is the stupidest thing ever.
All the problems can be solved by appointing a decent manager.
Kean, Berg and Appelton were all surprise appointments. At first we were optimistic with Appelton, he talked a lot of sense, but the performances and results were diabolical. We would definitely have been relegated under Appelton, I don't think they had any choice but to sack him. I would like to hear how he thought he was getting the best out of Jordan Rhodes. He took over a good team at Blackpool and stopped them from scoring as well!
Team GB is our best chance of avoiding relegation, hopefully next time they will appoint a good experienced manager - Adkins would be my choice.
Without Venkys we have no chance of returning to the Premiership because we have no money. If by a slim chance Venkys learn from their mistakes then we have a chance of promotion at some time in the future.
Can understand the anger felt by the fans... Who wouldn't be angry?
But we can't turn back time, nor will we always get what we wish for...
So. Venky's it is.... just hope they learned on lesson 3.
Rovers will NEVER die and will always have us the fans to support them .
just look at Wimbledon , yet they live on and are ENJOYING being a part of there own club , fc united born from nothing , we will exist wihout the venkys and are big enough to build again and start enjoying supporting the name of Blackburn . We will never do that under these owners who choose to ignore every plea from every temperary lost fan cuz mark my word ,they will come flooding back once they have gone .
More than 2 years have passed since the parasites took control , how much longer will we look on in frustration whilst they take the p!ss out of every fan ? the time has been long overdue and we really should play them at their on game , let them go bust . I hate venkys MORE than i hate burnley , wether we like it or not , the boycot exsists as we speak .
something more needs to be done but im at a loss as to wtf we can do .
VENKYS OUT
philmoulden
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9:59pm Thu 21 Mar 13
Nuttall Street wrote:The only consortium we need is all fans to stick together and getting rid of the prob
Harwoodstblue wrote:Hear, hear!
Blimey! wrote:Well said. We need them out. An empty ground will humiliate them.
What I can't understand is why do people keep bleating on about Venkys, yet continue to line their pockets by attending matches. All they are doing is perpetuating the madness! Forget misplaced loyalty to the club, it's too late for that, people should vote with their feet and not spend another penny at the club until Venkysy realise there is no money to be made out of it. Only then would they consider cutting their losses and selling up. So what if the club is relegated again, with the right owners and management team the club would rise again, as they have before. Short term pain, long term gain. Simple! I would go as far as to say it is DIS-loyal to the club to allow the situation to continue.
VENKYS
icannotrace
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10:06pm Thu 21 Mar 13
jogalot wrote:But it's a chicken and the egg thing isn't it? What proven manager would want to come to a club where his office has a noose hanging in the corner and a clock that starts at 60 days and counts down?
I can't see anybody else buying Rovers and Venkys have put money in (I think, but perhaps it's all parachute payments, transfers etc, I haven't worked it out). Appleton could really talk the talk. Berg was a loyal Rover. Kean was something else. But all 3 did not have a successful proven managerial record. We've cried out for it for 2 years but Venky's have not listened. If they listen now and appoint such a manager, then Rovers have a chance and to stay up and get promotion again next year.
It's easy to blame, blame, blame but it doesn't help unless it brings positive changes. If there's anyone to blame it is Kean and all that has followed has been mainly because of his total *&%,;*@£$***
Come on Venkys. Listen and learn.
.A proven manager doesn't need the money and has everything to lose.
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Let's not lose sight of what the real issue here and that is the ego struggle between Agnew, Shaw and Singh.
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They all need to go now, open he door and throw them all out onto the street and then let them try and go through the courts for compensation. I think the Venkys have more than enough money to keep a court case going before these schiesters run out of money Only then has Rovers got any chance or rebuilding.
35yearSurrenderMonkeys
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10:07pm Thu 21 Mar 13
Bazzer
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10:33pm Thu 21 Mar 13
roverfor60years
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10:34pm Thu 21 Mar 13
icannotrace wrote:A strong experienced ceo, like John Williams, would see to that.
jogalot wrote:But it's a chicken and the egg thing isn't it? What proven manager would want to come to a club where his office has a noose hanging in the corner and a clock that starts at 60 days and counts down?
I can't see anybody else buying Rovers and Venkys have put money in (I think, but perhaps it's all parachute payments, transfers etc, I haven't worked it out). Appleton could really talk the talk. Berg was a loyal Rover. Kean was something else. But all 3 did not have a successful proven managerial record. We've cried out for it for 2 years but Venky's have not listened. If they listen now and appoint such a manager, then Rovers have a chance and to stay up and get promotion again next year.
It's easy to blame, blame, blame but it doesn't help unless it brings positive changes. If there's anyone to blame it is Kean and all that has followed has been mainly because of his total *&%,;*@£$***
Come on Venkys. Listen and learn.
.A proven manager doesn't need the money and has everything to lose.
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Let's not lose sight of what the real issue here and that is the ego struggle between Agnew, Shaw and Singh.
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They all need to go now, open he door and throw them all out onto the street and then let them try and go through the courts for compensation. I think the Venkys have more than enough money to keep a court case going before these schiesters run out of money Only then has Rovers got any chance or rebuilding.
Incidentally, I am sure the happy picture above will mortify former Rovers' chairman David Brown, whose anger at the current situation is greater than that of any fan.
roverinmanchstr
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10:38pm Thu 21 Mar 13
maltese blue n white wrote:how disappointing that there is still that element who believe 'better the devil you know'...What utter, utter bo!!ocks....
Harwoodstblue wrote:they aint dumped us yet. And clueless and inept as they are i hope they don't soon.... cos if they do we aint even got a canoe... let alone a ferkin paddle..
maltese blue n white wrote:I understand what you mean but if they just 'dump' us anyway and walk away, we would only be in the same position as IF they were forced out.
Harwoodstblue wrote:Because without anyone to take over (forget BRAG/BRITSIT they couldn't raise the money) we are losing around 2 mil per month.. whilst the Venky's stay the banks will chase them for the monies.... If they don't pay they not only lose face but all credibility throughout their many ventures... So my guess would be that they in a corner as much as we are... If as you believe "they walk out next season... the debt they leave will be less than the debt should they leave now.... The cavalry are not about to come charging over the hill to save us.... hate to say it... but. Better the devil you know.
maltese blue n white wrote:Hi maltese blue and white
gaylegarnerkennedy wrote:Whilst I totally agree that we need a strong manager (maybe Souness) I also would like to see the Venky's departure, but. Where would we be then? Although completely incompetent, it's their money that's keeping us afloat. The solution would be to get rid of Shaw Agnew and Shebby the snake... And appoint one director with a proven record (forget J Williams he would never work for these clowns) then hire a manager with a proven record. Venky's could then step back and watch the phoenix "rise from the ashes"
Souness is the man to sort this mess out, should have been appointed as soon as Kean walked.
VENKEYS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB
Problem is... no-one can talk sense to the Venky's... They just don't listen...
Why do we not want rid of Venkys now? It's going to come to an inevitable end sooner or later. why prolong it? They have no intention of taking the club forward , even if they were capable, they've had plenty of chance to do that.
Get rid of the B'stards now and start again. I think they'll be off next season anyway when they see the size of the 'crowds' on the ground. If they were shocked this season, they will be next.
The club is one the way down ...It has taken Venky's to make a Premiership Club into a laughing stock 30 months and any drama within the Admin/Management department a total farce.. You could even make a new Carry on Film based on Rovers...The Club is heading for the lower leagues, withIn another 30 months the club could even be in the old ' Div 4'
What an absolutely totally stupid comment
Iiii1111
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10:46pm Thu 21 Mar 13
greenscreener wrote:I remember playing pool with John
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If I may step away from the train wreck that our club has become for a moment, by strange co-incidence these are two guys who both managed one of my heroes, ex-Rovers left back, John Bailey.
I heard today on the radio that JB has been seriously ill recently but is now recovering.
If anbody out there is in touch with JB please pass on our best wishes and let him know he's not forgotten by the faithful down at Ewood Park.
at the vic in Darwen...nice guy.....him and Kevin Hird the best pair of attacking full back the club have ever had.
Get well soon
tugaycomeback
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10:48pm Thu 21 Mar 13
Road Runner Road Runner
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10:49pm Thu 21 Mar 13
greenscreener wrote:Great comment Greenscreener.
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If I may step away from the train wreck that our club has become for a moment, by strange co-incidence these are two guys who both managed one of my heroes, ex-Rovers left back, John Bailey.
I heard today on the radio that JB has been seriously ill recently but is now recovering.
If anbody out there is in touch with JB please pass on our best wishes and let him know he's not forgotten by the faithful down at Ewood Park.
Gordon Lee was my first manager and I remember in the Cathedrals ground on the sub station sprayed 'Gordon Lee is God'
And John Bailey was a fave of mine too. Great players and managers who helped endear BRFC into the heart then, now and long after these incompetents(Venky) have gone !
Arte et labore
greenscreener
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10:51pm Thu 21 Mar 13
Bazzer wrote:Nice one Bazzer !.
Little old lady walking along Nuttall Street with two huge shopping bags. The handle breaks on one of the bags and her shopping falls all over the pavement. Someone shouts out from the Ewood offices "Can you manage love?" to which she shouted "Fook off, I dont want the fooking job!".
Alternative ending.... to which she shouted "My name's Desai, no I fooking can't".
Iiii1111
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11:01pm Thu 21 Mar 13
greenscreener wrote:I blame the short stay managers parking space...
Bazzer wrote:Nice one Bazzer !.
Little old lady walking along Nuttall Street with two huge shopping bags. The handle breaks on one of the bags and her shopping falls all over the pavement. Someone shouts out from the Ewood offices "Can you manage love?" to which she shouted "Fook off, I dont want the fooking job!".
Alternative ending.... to which she shouted "My name's Desai, no I fooking can't".
CARover
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11:02pm Thu 21 Mar 13
Now if only Venky's would sell, that would be a great headline
greenscreener
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11:07pm Thu 21 Mar 13
Road Runner Road Runner wrote:Don't think I remember that graffiti but I never spent much time around the cathedral.
greenscreener wrote:Great comment Greenscreener.
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If I may step away from the train wreck that our club has become for a moment, by strange co-incidence these are two guys who both managed one of my heroes, ex-Rovers left back, John Bailey.
I heard today on the radio that JB has been seriously ill recently but is now recovering.
If anbody out there is in touch with JB please pass on our best wishes and let him know he's not forgotten by the faithful down at Ewood Park.
Gordon Lee was my first manager and I remember in the Cathedrals ground on the sub station sprayed 'Gordon Lee is God'
And John Bailey was a fave of mine too. Great players and managers who helped endear BRFC into the heart then, now and long after these incompetents(Venky) have gone !
Arte et labore
Suspect it wasn't you who wrote it Road Runner, a bit concise for you !
I was still a young lad in those days, but I always thought JB might play for England, unfortunately I think Kenny Sansom probably had that shirt all to himself when JB was at his best with Rovers and Everton.
greenscreener
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11:13pm Thu 21 Mar 13
Iiii1111 wrote:.
greenscreener wrote:I blame the short stay managers parking space...
Bazzer wrote:Nice one Bazzer !.
Little old lady walking along Nuttall Street with two huge shopping bags. The handle breaks on one of the bags and her shopping falls all over the pavement. Someone shouts out from the Ewood offices "Can you manage love?" to which she shouted "Fook off, I dont want the fooking job!".
Alternative ending.... to which she shouted "My name's Desai, no I fooking can't".
Don't really need a managers parking space now do they, they have made the Managers Office a "Drive Through"
Road Runner Road Runner
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11:20pm Thu 21 Mar 13
greenscreener wrote:He he :) no, not I even I was only a slip of a boy then too !
Road Runner Road Runner wrote:Don't think I remember that graffiti but I never spent much time around the cathedral.
greenscreener wrote:Great comment Greenscreener.
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If I may step away from the train wreck that our club has become for a moment, by strange co-incidence these are two guys who both managed one of my heroes, ex-Rovers left back, John Bailey.
I heard today on the radio that JB has been seriously ill recently but is now recovering.
If anbody out there is in touch with JB please pass on our best wishes and let him know he's not forgotten by the faithful down at Ewood Park.
Gordon Lee was my first manager and I remember in the Cathedrals ground on the sub station sprayed 'Gordon Lee is God'
And John Bailey was a fave of mine too. Great players and managers who helped endear BRFC into the heart then, now and long after these incompetents(Venky) have gone !
Arte et labore
Suspect it wasn't you who wrote it Road Runner, a bit concise for you !
I was still a young lad in those days, but I always thought JB might play for England, unfortunately I think Kenny Sansom probably had that shirt all to himself when JB was at his best with Rovers and Everton.
Some great humor on here tonight I think I want to break into song; My only sunshine you make me happy when sky's are grey................ :)
Wednesday ?
Arte et labore
greenscreener
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11:33pm Thu 21 Mar 13
Road Runner Road Runner wrote:Nah, on the road again, but it looks like the snow might keep the east and west apart !
greenscreener wrote:He he :) no, not I even I was only a slip of a boy then too !
Road Runner Road Runner wrote:Don't think I remember that graffiti but I never spent much time around the cathedral.
greenscreener wrote:Great comment Greenscreener.
.
If I may step away from the train wreck that our club has become for a moment, by strange co-incidence these are two guys who both managed one of my heroes, ex-Rovers left back, John Bailey.
I heard today on the radio that JB has been seriously ill recently but is now recovering.
If anbody out there is in touch with JB please pass on our best wishes and let him know he's not forgotten by the faithful down at Ewood Park.
Gordon Lee was my first manager and I remember in the Cathedrals ground on the sub station sprayed 'Gordon Lee is God'
And John Bailey was a fave of mine too. Great players and managers who helped endear BRFC into the heart then, now and long after these incompetents(Venky) have gone !
Arte et labore
Suspect it wasn't you who wrote it Road Runner, a bit concise for you !
I was still a young lad in those days, but I always thought JB might play for England, unfortunately I think Kenny Sansom probably had that shirt all to himself when JB was at his best with Rovers and Everton.
Some great humor on here tonight I think I want to break into song; My only sunshine you make me happy when sky's are grey................ :)
Wednesday ?
Arte et labore
C'mon without, c'mon within, you'll not see nothing like the mighty Quinn....
Road Runner Road Runner
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11:49pm Thu 21 Mar 13
greenscreener wrote:Well, be safe on those treacherous roads :)
Road Runner Road Runner wrote:Nah, on the road again, but it looks like the snow might keep the east and west apart !
greenscreener wrote:He he :) no, not I even I was only a slip of a boy then too !
Road Runner Road Runner wrote:Don't think I remember that graffiti but I never spent much time around the cathedral.
greenscreener wrote:Great comment Greenscreener.
.
If I may step away from the train wreck that our club has become for a moment, by strange co-incidence these are two guys who both managed one of my heroes, ex-Rovers left back, John Bailey.
I heard today on the radio that JB has been seriously ill recently but is now recovering.
If anbody out there is in touch with JB please pass on our best wishes and let him know he's not forgotten by the faithful down at Ewood Park.
Gordon Lee was my first manager and I remember in the Cathedrals ground on the sub station sprayed 'Gordon Lee is God'
And John Bailey was a fave of mine too. Great players and managers who helped endear BRFC into the heart then, now and long after these incompetents(Venky) have gone !
Arte et labore
Suspect it wasn't you who wrote it Road Runner, a bit concise for you !
I was still a young lad in those days, but I always thought JB might play for England, unfortunately I think Kenny Sansom probably had that shirt all to himself when JB was at his best with Rovers and Everton.
Some great humor on here tonight I think I want to break into song; My only sunshine you make me happy when sky's are grey................ :)
Wednesday ?
Arte et labore
C'mon without, c'mon within, you'll not see nothing like the mighty Quinn....
On we go.
Arte et labore
reggie0008
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11:57pm Thu 21 Mar 13
Reg, Ayr
goldfinger59
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12:00am Fri 22 Mar 13
philrog
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12:31am Fri 22 Mar 13
y, How old are you? 1875 is a long time mate.
whappen
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8:36am Fri 22 Mar 13
philmoulden wrote:We haven't been "sick" of Venkys since they took over. I was quite optimistic at the time. They came out with some embarrassing stuff early on (Ronaldinho etc) but I put that down to new owner bluster trying to get the fans on their side and show they meant business. Nothing unusual there.
Weve all been sick of the venkys since they took over , thick as pig sh!t , if not THICKER . If i had my way , the sooner administration happens the better , us fans wont ever feel properly connected to out club until they are removed , they are the most ignorent people ever so my vision would be to take to the pitch every game and stop the game from taking place ,hell , we would,nt be missing much the way the overpaid buffoons are shaping ,dunny apart ( legend) and fan , this way we will be deducted points and pave the way for the venkys leaving party , whats good enough for rangers is good enough for me , the quicker it happens the better or me , i want them out of this A.S.A.P just my opinion how do we gt rid ofthe venkys ,thats what we should be discussing,, the venkys staying is not an option rover n out
It was a surprise when they sacked BFS, but not a shock; new owners want their own man in. Nothing unusual there either. We even gave Kean a fair crack of the whip. We didn't know who the f@ck he was but hoped they had come up with a gem.
Obviously they hadn't.
It was only when everthing started to go wrong on the pitch, Kean keeping his job and, more importantly, Venkys' abject running of the club coming into the public domain (especially Anderson's involvement, the Williams/Finn/Goodma
n and Paul Hunt letters) that we turned against them. And boy do they deserve it.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing but if anyone was "sick" of them as soon as they set foot in the place, then may I suggest their motives were not entirely, how should we say, football based?
whappen
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8:55am Fri 22 Mar 13
RespectTheK-Dog wrote:Good point(s), not very well made though..
madrover wrote:Kenyon is an atrocious human being but he has been CFO for the Man Utds and Chavkskis of this world to be fair What on earth makes you think anyone of his calibre would work at your p1ss pot football club for the nutters who run it? He's bald and slippery - perhaps he reminds you of your irrestible former manager (what do you mean "WHICH ONE?"- STEVE KEAN of coursemaltese blue n white wrote:not sticking up for venky's but i do think that shaw ,agnew and singh feed them that much s**t that they don't know any different . they should fire all three and get someone like peter kenyon who knows how to run a clubgaylegarnerkennedy wrote: Souness is the man to sort this mess out, should have been appointed as soon as Kean walked. VENKEYS GET OUT OF OUR CLUBWhilst I totally agree that we need a strong manager (maybe Souness) I also would like to see the Venky's departure, but. Where would we be then? Although completely incompetent, it's their money that's keeping us afloat. The solution would be to get rid of Shaw Agnew and Shebby the snake... And appoint one director with a proven record (forget J Williams he would never work for these clowns) then hire a manager with a proven record. Venky's could then step back and watch the phoenix "rise from the ashes" Problem is... no-one can talk sense to the Venky's... They just don't listen...
Bazzer
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9:30am Fri 22 Mar 13
whappen wrote:Well I was sick of them from the outset, but it was based on the experience the Wolves had with the Bhatti Brothers. Every now and then I have brought that period up and events at Rovers are all pointing to the same consequences. The hype at the start about Ronaldinho etc was just how the Bhattis started. Doesn't anyone remember it was Rovers who played Wolves at Molineux on the first day of the Bhatti reign? Dougan was in the crowd giving it large and promising the earth.
philmoulden wrote: Weve all been sick of the venkys since they took over , thick as pig sh!t , if not THICKER . If i had my way , the sooner administration happens the better , us fans wont ever feel properly connected to out club until they are removed , they are the most ignorent people ever so my vision would be to take to the pitch every game and stop the game from taking place ,hell , we would,nt be missing much the way the overpaid buffoons are shaping ,dunny apart ( legend) and fan , this way we will be deducted points and pave the way for the venkys leaving party , whats good enough for rangers is good enough for me , the quicker it happens the better or me , i want them out of this A.S.A.P just my opinion how do we gt rid ofthe venkys ,thats what we should be discussing,, the venkys staying is not an option rover n outWe haven't been "sick" of Venkys since they took over. I was quite optimistic at the time. They came out with some embarrassing stuff early on (Ronaldinho etc) but I put that down to new owner bluster trying to get the fans on their side and show they meant business. Nothing unusual there. It was a surprise when they sacked BFS, but not a shock; new owners want their own man in. Nothing unusual there either. We even gave Kean a fair crack of the whip. We didn't know who the f@ck he was but hoped they had come up with a gem. Obviously they hadn't. It was only when everthing started to go wrong on the pitch, Kean keeping his job and, more importantly, Venkys' abject running of the club coming into the public domain (especially Anderson's involvement, the Williams/Finn/Goodma n and Paul Hunt letters) that we turned against them. And boy do they deserve it. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but if anyone was "sick" of them as soon as they set foot in the place, then may I suggest their motives were not entirely, how should we say, football based?
As soon as Big Sam went that was it for me with the Venkys. The similarities with the Wolves story are chilling. Up Rovers!
whappen
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9:44am Fri 22 Mar 13
RoversSwiss wrote:"All the problems can be solved by appointing a decent manager?"
You have to be mad to think anyone would buy the Rovers from Venkys. People still calling for boycotts is the stupidest thing ever. All the problems can be solved by appointing a decent manager. Kean, Berg and Appelton were all surprise appointments. At first we were optimistic with Appelton, he talked a lot of sense, but the performances and results were diabolical. We would definitely have been relegated under Appelton, I don't think they had any choice but to sack him. I would like to hear how he thought he was getting the best out of Jordan Rhodes. He took over a good team at Blackpool and stopped them from scoring as well! Team GB is our best chance of avoiding relegation, hopefully next time they will appoint a good experienced manager - Adkins would be my choice. Without Venkys we have no chance of returning to the Premiership because we have no money. If by a slim chance Venkys learn from their mistakes then we have a chance of promotion at some time in the future.
Really?
In the first place neither Venkys nor Shaw nor Singh know what a decent manager is and, even if they did, have zero credibility to get one. Venkys ended any hope of that ever happening by driving out the people who knew how to go about appointing a manager and had the respect within the game for that manager to at least consider taking the job.
"...hopefully next time they will appoint a good experienced manager...."
No decent manager would ever work under Venkys, not knowing if it's Singh or Shaw they answer to. Not to mention the total lack of knowledge those two have about running a football club outside of Malaysia or Preston (and Shaw couldn't even do that). That wont improve if Rao, Rao and Desai stay on he other side of the World relying on feedback from those two big kids squabbling in the schoolyard.
I'm not a supporter of the time = success theory about managers; they all have a shelf life. Berg and Appleton may not have been the right men for the job (and who hired them BTW?), but the lord god almighty can't be expected to turn this or any other club around in two or three months.
Plus, what would constitute "turning it around"? Getting back into the PL? Do me a favour.
Our chances of returning to the PL with Venkys? Nil. Our chances of being in Div One next year with them? Very high. Div Two the year after? Quite possibly. Our chances of returning to the PL without them? Highly unlikely as there has been too much damage done. The club is worth dick at the minute and anyone stupid enough to shell out the three and six it would take to buy it would be lumbered with enormous debt and financial obligations (mainly ridiculous player contracts) with nothing or no-one of any value to offset it.
It's something of a Catch 22; we're f@cked (as a credible football club)with 'em and we're f@cked (financially) without 'em.
Still, here's hoping.
Gammon Flap
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9:59am Fri 22 Mar 13
whappen
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10:21am Fri 22 Mar 13
Bazzer wrote:What I'm saying is it's virtually the same everytime a new owner takes charge. You only find out what they're like with time.
whappen wrote:Well I was sick of them from the outset, but it was based on the experience the Wolves had with the Bhatti Brothers. Every now and then I have brought that period up and events at Rovers are all pointing to the same consequences. The hype at the start about Ronaldinho etc was just how the Bhattis started. Doesn't anyone remember it was Rovers who played Wolves at Molineux on the first day of the Bhatti reign? Dougan was in the crowd giving it large and promising the earth. As soon as Big Sam went that was it for me with the Venkys. The similarities with the Wolves story are chilling. Up Rovers!philmoulden wrote: Weve all been sick of the venkys since they took over , thick as pig sh!t , if not THICKER . If i had my way , the sooner administration happens the better , us fans wont ever feel properly connected to out club until they are removed , they are the most ignorent people ever so my vision would be to take to the pitch every game and stop the game from taking place ,hell , we would,nt be missing much the way the overpaid buffoons are shaping ,dunny apart ( legend) and fan , this way we will be deducted points and pave the way for the venkys leaving party , whats good enough for rangers is good enough for me , the quicker it happens the better or me , i want them out of this A.S.A.P just my opinion how do we gt rid ofthe venkys ,thats what we should be discussing,, the venkys staying is not an option rover n outWe haven't been "sick" of Venkys since they took over. I was quite optimistic at the time. They came out with some embarrassing stuff early on (Ronaldinho etc) but I put that down to new owner bluster trying to get the fans on their side and show they meant business. Nothing unusual there. It was a surprise when they sacked BFS, but not a shock; new owners want their own man in. Nothing unusual there either. We even gave Kean a fair crack of the whip. We didn't know who the f@ck he was but hoped they had come up with a gem. Obviously they hadn't. It was only when everthing started to go wrong on the pitch, Kean keeping his job and, more importantly, Venkys' abject running of the club coming into the public domain (especially Anderson's involvement, the Williams/Finn/Goodma n and Paul Hunt letters) that we turned against them. And boy do they deserve it. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but if anyone was "sick" of them as soon as they set foot in the place, then may I suggest their motives were not entirely, how should we say, football based?
Wolves fans would have been upbeat when the Bhatti Brothers took over only to suffer what we are now and a whole lot more besides. Well, as it stands at the moment anyway.
But not all new owners have been Bhatti-esque in the way they have run the club they bought. You would have expected Venkys, who knew nothing about football, to have sought every last bit of advice from anyone and everyone at the club who knew anything about anything to do with football; they didn't and we're all paying the price for that. If they did take advice from Williams et al but still came up with the same hair brained business plan, then they are more stupid than I could ever have imagined.
Having seen what's gone on over the last two and a half years, we can have little doubt our fine old club is heading in one direction and one direction only. However, no-one would have predicted the speed at which that has happened. A fall from grace would have been no real surprise, but it should have been as a result of the natural laws of football and certainly in a more dignified manner.
petemcglinn
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10:21am Fri 22 Mar 13
Gammon Flap wrote:Were having one on 14/4/2013.
WE'RE HAVING A PARTY WHEN BLACKBURN GO DOWN!!
Coyb.
Dan11
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10:49am Fri 22 Mar 13
jogalot wrote:The Venkys have always been an arrogant, spiteful bunch. If all of the fans are calling out for one thing, they will do the opposite unfortunately. Maybe the fans should be calling out for the inexperienced, the unproven or cone-men to be our manager in future?? That way we might just get what club does need, and what we had when they took over in Big Sam, an experienced and proven top level manager.
I can't see anybody else buying Rovers and Venkys have put money in (I think, but perhaps it's all parachute payments, transfers etc, I haven't worked it out). Appleton could really talk the talk. Berg was a loyal Rover. Kean was something else. But all 3 did not have a successful proven managerial record. We've cried out for it for 2 years but Venky's have not listened. If they listen now and appoint such a manager, then Rovers have a chance and to stay up and get promotion again next year. It's easy to blame, blame, blame but it doesn't help unless it brings positive changes. If there's anyone to blame it is Kean and all that has followed has been mainly because of his total *&%,;*@£$*** Come on Venkys. Listen and learn.
Dan11
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10:51am Fri 22 Mar 13
In football, if you pay peanuts you get ..... Not that they would understand that saying!!!
benal13
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11:22am Fri 22 Mar 13
35yearSurrenderMonkeKNOB HEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ys wrote:
Fans didn't stick together when there was only 8000 of us, when the going got tough, the wet arses ran for cover of mammas apron. So shove it, I'll be going to ewood on my own if I have to. Its called being a supporter. If you don't go, you aint one. Its like being in a union, broken service doesn't count so all you munters who say. I've been going since 1875, your service now counts for nothing and you are a new supporter. with less than 12 months under yer belt. So, quit yer whinging and move out you part time nobodies.
!!!!!!!!
merlinrabbit
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11:29am Fri 22 Mar 13
Gammon Flap wrote:I imagine there aren't reasons for parties over on Gannow Top. Feel for you living over there
WE'RE HAVING A PARTY WHEN BLACKBURN GO DOWN!!
Harwoodstblue
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11:42am Fri 22 Mar 13
Prophil wrote:Totally agree with that.
I do not understand why people think that Venky's are putting money into the club. Throughout their ownership they have stripped the club of its main assets, namely our best players. They have continually been opaque about their dealings. Is it not more likely that they are taking money out of the club? If this is the case, then the sooner they are gone, the better.
dg666
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11:44am Fri 22 Mar 13
Also go and have a read of Robbie Savage's piece in the Mirror about the Venky's, never a better piece written.
Most on here wanted MA out anyway because of his dire football and tactics, in Robbie Savage's words be careful what you wish for in football!
Most wanted new owners slagging off the Walker Trust, most wanted Big Sam out because of the football we played, believe me most of you moaners are as much to blame as anybody else!
Gammon Flap
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12:02pm Fri 22 Mar 13
merlinrabbit wrote:Close, but no cigar.
Gammon Flap wrote:I imagine there aren't reasons for parties over on Gannow Top. Feel for you living over there
WE'RE HAVING A PARTY WHEN BLACKBURN GO DOWN!!
Gannow Top however is massively preferable to Merlin Towers on Audley Range, surrounded by toothless smackrats and jobless paedo groomers.
Nice.
Donmartin
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12:12pm Fri 22 Mar 13
" The amount of money made out of BRFC (by agents) is ridiculous "
......from a former player.
First Jerome Anderson and Kean! Then messrs Agnew and Shaw...have manipulated the situation ( a club owned by people who have no knowledge of Football ) to screw as much money out of BRFC as possible.
Venkys surely cannot be so naive to let this carry on? The real problem are the people who are ultimately responsible for the running of the club Agnew and Shaw; Venkys need to get rid of them immediately.
Shebby Singh unfortunately is also responsible....but is Venkys ' own man ' ....so can't really see him going whilst Venys remain?
BRFC would be a realistic proposition for any investor just because of the potential involved in reaching the Premiership;but it all depends on how long Venkys carry on.
Personally as a third generation Rovers fan it is heartbreaking to see what is happening and frustrating not knowing how to change the situation. My own personal opinion is that boycotting home games by all BRFC fans would force Venkys into doing something.....how can you run a club with no supporters? ( mind you Burnley seem to manage ok! )
We live in hope.... even the Bhatti bros. eventually left Wolves.
Arte et Labore.
Bazzer
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1:19pm Fri 22 Mar 13
whappen wrote:Well said. The "fall from grace" as you put it, was inevitable. The only way we could slow it down was with a manager like Big Sam - who has always punched above his weight with what he has had at his disposal.
Bazzer wrote:What I'm saying is it's virtually the same everytime a new owner takes charge. You only find out what they're like with time. Wolves fans would have been upbeat when the Bhatti Brothers took over only to suffer what we are now and a whole lot more besides. Well, as it stands at the moment anyway. But not all new owners have been Bhatti-esque in the way they have run the club they bought. You would have expected Venkys, who knew nothing about football, to have sought every last bit of advice from anyone and everyone at the club who knew anything about anything to do with football; they didn't and we're all paying the price for that. If they did take advice from Williams et al but still came up with the same hair brained business plan, then they are more stupid than I could ever have imagined. Having seen what's gone on over the last two and a half years, we can have little doubt our fine old club is heading in one direction and one direction only. However, no-one would have predicted the speed at which that has happened. A fall from grace would have been no real surprise, but it should have been as a result of the natural laws of football and certainly in a more dignified manner.whappen wrote:Well I was sick of them from the outset, but it was based on the experience the Wolves had with the Bhatti Brothers. Every now and then I have brought that period up and events at Rovers are all pointing to the same consequences. The hype at the start about Ronaldinho etc was just how the Bhattis started. Doesn't anyone remember it was Rovers who played Wolves at Molineux on the first day of the Bhatti reign? Dougan was in the crowd giving it large and promising the earth. As soon as Big Sam went that was it for me with the Venkys. The similarities with the Wolves story are chilling. Up Rovers!philmoulden wrote: Weve all been sick of the venkys since they took over , thick as pig sh!t , if not THICKER . If i had my way , the sooner administration happens the better , us fans wont ever feel properly connected to out club until they are removed , they are the most ignorent people ever so my vision would be to take to the pitch every game and stop the game from taking place ,hell , we would,nt be missing much the way the overpaid buffoons are shaping ,dunny apart ( legend) and fan , this way we will be deducted points and pave the way for the venkys leaving party , whats good enough for rangers is good enough for me , the quicker it happens the better or me , i want them out of this A.S.A.P just my opinion how do we gt rid ofthe venkys ,thats what we should be discussing,, the venkys staying is not an option rover n outWe haven't been "sick" of Venkys since they took over. I was quite optimistic at the time. They came out with some embarrassing stuff early on (Ronaldinho etc) but I put that down to new owner bluster trying to get the fans on their side and show they meant business. Nothing unusual there. It was a surprise when they sacked BFS, but not a shock; new owners want their own man in. Nothing unusual there either. We even gave Kean a fair crack of the whip. We didn't know who the f@ck he was but hoped they had come up with a gem. Obviously they hadn't. It was only when everthing started to go wrong on the pitch, Kean keeping his job and, more importantly, Venkys' abject running of the club coming into the public domain (especially Anderson's involvement, the Williams/Finn/Goodma n and Paul Hunt letters) that we turned against them. And boy do they deserve it. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but if anyone was "sick" of them as soon as they set foot in the place, then may I suggest their motives were not entirely, how should we say, football based?
All water under the bridge now, but we have never replaced Big Sam and we head now to the gates of well under 4,000 which the Bhattis produced at Molineux.
makaveli96
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1:28pm Fri 22 Mar 13
He deserted us once before.....
makaveli96
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1:30pm Fri 22 Mar 13
Lundy1991
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3:37pm Fri 22 Mar 13
Blimey!
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3:52pm Fri 22 Mar 13
noddy57
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3:59pm Fri 22 Mar 13
Roverthere
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5:20pm Fri 22 Mar 13
Let's give Scaby and Venky's some credit for undoing a mistake. However they now need to move forward and an experienced manager.
All this talk of boycotts, rubbish mostly from the 34's. We need to be backing the team at every match from now until season end.
whappen
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9:11am Sat 23 Mar 13
Harwoodstblue wrote:They paid £20odd million for it and have lost about £14 million in two years (which includes the Jones sale but not the Rhodes purchase). Bearing in mind the club will only bring in enough to cover about half the wage bill this wear, there will be another £20 odd million to find.
Prophil wrote: I do not understand why people think that Venky's are putting money into the club. Throughout their ownership they have stripped the club of its main assets, namely our best players. They have continually been opaque about their dealings. Is it not more likely that they are taking money out of the club? If this is the case, then the sooner they are gone, the better.Totally agree with that.
If Venkys put that in it will be in the form of a loan - that's how benefactors do it; it would be liable to tax if they just gave them the cash (see Bolton).
The value of the club has plummeted and will continue to do so, whatever they do. enlighten us; where exactly is all this money they are "stripping" coming from?
Simple fact is, there isn't any and never has been.

gaylegarnerkennedy says...
5:43pm Thu 21 Mar 13
VENKEYS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB