Managers go head-to-head at Blackburn Rovers v Burnley derby (From Lancashire Telegraph)

who is switching the lights out on these two destroyed clubs, it all seems irrelavant now

sunday crunch my as*, wiith those 22 disgracefull palyers at ewood, it shoud be the firing squad

Keen O to Get Kean Out wrote:
who is switching the lights out on these two destroyed clubs, it all seems irrelavant now

I don't know about yourself fella and the rest of your supporters but there just isn't that buzz going about that normally hit's the atmosphere in the build up to the big derby.

It just goes to show how both sets of fans really feel at present not only in the dire football being played, but the loss of faith in the backroom staff and the people at the top who say they want the best for our club's.

That's all well and good but at what cost????????

Hopefully come Sunday that good ole rival atmosphere will be back, along with a cracking game. Think I'll get a lottery ticket, will have more hope with that.

Keen O to Get Kean Out wrote:
who is switching the lights out on these two destroyed clubs, it all seems irrelavant now

I think you need to speak for yourself sunshine - we aren't destroyed, we are just in a bit of a bad run of form. We are still 11th in the table having won 3 and drawn 1 of our 6 away Championship league fixtures this season.

Get ready for your hearts to be broken.

Gammon Flap wrote:

Keen O to Get Kean Out wrote: who is switching the lights out on these two destroyed clubs, it all seems irrelavant now

I think you need to speak for yourself sunshine - we aren't destroyed, we are just in a bit of a bad run of form. We are still 11th in the table having won 3 and drawn 1 of our 6 away Championship league fixtures this season. Get ready for your hearts to be broken.

i remmeber the days at turf getting exited about playing burnley, and both teams could compete with passion, fact is football is ruined now, our national sport is gone, Burnley and Blackburn are history im afraid, dont lead yourself into a false sense of security about your form , you have no more cash than us

Keen O to Get Kean Out wrote:

Gammon Flap wrote:

Keen O to Get Kean Out wrote: who is switching the lights out on these two destroyed clubs, it all seems irrelavant now

I think you need to speak for yourself sunshine - we aren't destroyed, we are just in a bit of a bad run of form. We are still 11th in the table having won 3 and drawn 1 of our 6 away Championship league fixtures this season. Get ready for your hearts to be broken.

i remmeber the days at turf getting exited about playing burnley, and both teams could compete with passion, fact is football is ruined now, our national sport is gone, Burnley and Blackburn are history im afraid, dont lead yourself into a false sense of security about your form , you have no more cash than us

Who said anything about cash?

Obviously you don't understand the irony of your comments do you?

You are a supporter of a team that has smashed the Championship transfer record, a team that has probably spent the best part of £15 million in the summer including wages, and yet all you have done throughout the last two years is whine and whinge and feel like you have some God-given right to be back dining at the top table.

Venkys still are subsidising every single one of you moaning whingers with THE CHEAPEST tickets in the entire division and yet you still complain and moan - you are living in Cloud Cuckoo Land, you are reaping what you sow and please don't compare our clubs again - I need to shower my mind now.

Burnley and Rovers fans have never united on anything but there seems to be a couple of things they certainly agree on:
- Their teams are playing sh!t, awful, painfully dull football.
- Nobody is really that @rsed about a derby game that used to be one of the most electric in the country.

BananaClarets wrote:
Burnley and Rovers fans have never united on anything but there seems to be a couple of things they certainly agree on: - Their teams are playing sh!t, awful, painfully dull football. - Nobody is really that @rsed about a derby game that used to be one of the most electric in the country.

agree banana xx well said and tell your fellow fan gammin man to stop bearing a grudge, i want to see both teams competing at the top level and doing well, not being bitter and twisted

Gammon Flap wrote:

Keen O to Get Kean Out wrote:

Gammon Flap wrote:

Keen O to Get Kean Out wrote: who is switching the lights out on these two destroyed clubs, it all seems irrelavant now

I think you need to speak for yourself sunshine - we aren't destroyed, we are just in a bit of a bad run of form. We are still 11th in the table having won 3 and drawn 1 of our 6 away Championship league fixtures this season. Get ready for your hearts to be broken.

i remmeber the days at turf getting exited about playing burnley, and both teams could compete with passion, fact is football is ruined now, our national sport is gone, Burnley and Blackburn are history im afraid, dont lead yourself into a false sense of security about your form , you have no more cash than us

Who said anything about cash? Obviously you don't understand the irony of your comments do you? You are a supporter of a team that has smashed the Championship transfer record, a team that has probably spent the best part of £15 million in the summer including wages, and yet all you have done throughout the last two years is whine and whinge and feel like you have some God-given right to be back dining at the top table. Venkys still are subsidising every single one of you moaning whingers with THE CHEAPEST tickets in the entire division and yet you still complain and moan - you are living in Cloud Cuckoo Land, you are reaping what you sow and please don't compare our clubs again - I need to shower my mind now.

nothin to do with fans or transfers, its Venkys who have ruined us and asset stripped,not the fans -- look at the bigger picture gammon,, you obviuosly dont understand how a prem club should be run from the top down, obviuosly your comments are limited to the terraces only,, typical

THE Rovers this season are the worst team l have seen in this division, Burnley are garbage too,,but l will say this that if ever there was a time to get 3 points at ewood,,it is this sundays game and if burnley cant beat us then they must be worse than l thought,,AGNEW BATFINK< SHAW OUT NOW

noddy57 wrote:
THE Rovers this season are the worst team l have seen in this division, Burnley are garbage too,,but l will say this that if ever there was a time to get 3 points at ewood,,it is this sundays game and if burnley cant beat us then they must be worse than l thought,,AGNEW BATFINK&lt; SHAW OUT NOW

i agree, BFC should hammer us in style, but 2 seasons ago i would have laffed ,, and thought BFC ? - Chicken Feed .. not any more !!

I think it very sad that the three local pro teams (look where Accrington are) are all at such a low ebb at the same time. Burnley can't buy a win or a performance, the Stanley players are not getting paid and the Rover's owners are pillaging the club without any apparent second thought. A truly depressing situation and the supporters of all 3 clubs deserve much better. I would like to see Burnley win on Sunday but local derby bragging rights seem very small beer indeed compared to the big picture. My three wishes for the end of season are all 3 clubs avoid relegation , Rovers are bought by someone who cares about the club and Burnley attract some real investment and put together a team that we would all like to watch play. Pass me the lamp someone!

I agree with most of the letters on here today,this derby game as become of secondary importance,whoever wins it is not solving any long term problems and together with Accrington we are all in a bloody mess.

Did anybody hear that bang last night? That was the sound of a bubble of hope bursting over Boll-Ewood. Sunday is Blackbun with Darwin Rovers cup final. They will think they're champions of uefa if they get any kind of result against a proper family club like us, the mighty clarets.
UTC

The English football game has become a reflection of society. It's all about the 'haves' and the 'have nots', and the fact that the 'haves' are better placed to keep themselves...well, having more, at the expense of the 'have nots'.

Blackburn Rovers were once a Premiership club, it isn't anymore, it's just another struggling Championship side, with the same dream as all the other Championship sides, wanting to make it into the Premier League, because apparently, it the football heaven, and we as fans of struggling championship sides are meant to believe in the dream.

I for one do not. The English Premier League is probably the most manipulated and contrived football league in the world. Most of the money made in English football is funnelled towards the Premier League. If it were a roulette table, it would be crooked. If it were dice, they would be loaded. Whether you accept this view is irrelevant, it's just my opinion, and I say things as I see them. When your club is doing well, it eases the unease, and makes it easy not to think on such things. It makes it palatable to participate in the circus and the charade.

Take a look around the town you live in. Both towns are being constricted by ever-tightening economic strangulation, and the people are meant to believe it is all for their good. Even though, those doing the constricting are not suffering the same, because they have seen to it that austerity doesn't touch them, and they have the temerity of suggesting that we are all in it together. We are not!

Your Man Utd's and your Man City's and your Chelsea's don't care about the financial struggles of other clubs, neither do the fans of those clubs...'sod you Jack, we're al'right' is their attitude. Blackburn Rovers fans didn't give a **** when Jack Walker piled his money into the team, whilst other local clubs struggled on. Now that they, too, are once again a stuggling club the perspective has changed somewhat. Football is quite the capitalistic sport, and capitalism is the most controlled system, whose motto is..."Coxerunt vobis, Jack, ego sum al'right!"

Nah. Sunday's game is just another football match between two local clubs, both of which need to win the three points. The historical and traditional rivalry has been lost in the turgid atmosphere of austerity and loss of hope for a brighter future.

Whatever the outcome Sunday, the result won't pay my bills, it won't feed me, and it won't put jobs back into an economy deliberately crushed by the wealthy. So, pardon me if you find me yawning at the prospect of a local derby when I have greater things to concern me. No doubt, i'll be checking the score sometime in the afternoon, but merely out of curious interest.

You can fool some of the people all of the time or all of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all of the time. You can see the truth of this old saying by looking at the gates of both clubs. While I expect a pretty full gate on Sunday, it can't be long before an E. Lancs Derby sees the same apathy as seen in the capital city of Scotland when the Hi-bees play the Jambos; a local derby watched by a half-empty stadium.

I think people by and large have had enough. The results may not be great but if there's some excitement on the pitch, people will turn up. When there's no spark or enjoyment to be had, the gates will fall further. And why not? People can stay at home with cheap supermarket plonk and watch a humdinger of a Premier League or Champions' League game.

Major Tom wrote:
Did anybody hear that bang last night? That was the sound of a bubble of hope bursting over Boll-Ewood. Sunday is Blackbun with Darwin Rovers cup final. They will think they're champions of uefa if they get any kind of result against a proper family club like us, the mighty clarets.
UTC

Oh yes, and how you Clarets just love to "keep it in the family".

We are truly woeful at the moment - just as woeful as we were back in November, however you still couldn't put one over on us then.

Jog on 6 fingered muppet.

Elysiumfire wrote:
The English football game has become a reflection of society. It's all about the 'haves' and the 'have nots', and the fact that the 'haves' are better placed to keep themselves...well, having more, at the expense of the 'have nots'.

Blackburn Rovers were once a Premiership club, it isn't anymore, it's just another struggling Championship side, with the same dream as all the other Championship sides, wanting to make it into the Premier League, because apparently, it the football heaven, and we as fans of struggling championship sides are meant to believe in the dream.

I for one do not. The English Premier League is probably the most manipulated and contrived football league in the world. Most of the money made in English football is funnelled towards the Premier League. If it were a roulette table, it would be crooked. If it were dice, they would be loaded. Whether you accept this view is irrelevant, it's just my opinion, and I say things as I see them. When your club is doing well, it eases the unease, and makes it easy not to think on such things. It makes it palatable to participate in the circus and the charade.

Take a look around the town you live in. Both towns are being constricted by ever-tightening economic strangulation, and the people are meant to believe it is all for their good. Even though, those doing the constricting are not suffering the same, because they have seen to it that austerity doesn't touch them, and they have the temerity of suggesting that we are all in it together. We are not!

Your Man Utd's and your Man City's and your Chelsea's don't care about the financial struggles of other clubs, neither do the fans of those clubs...'sod you Jack, we're al'right' is their attitude. Blackburn Rovers fans didn't give a **** when Jack Walker piled his money into the team, whilst other local clubs struggled on. Now that they, too, are once again a stuggling club the perspective has changed somewhat. Football is quite the capitalistic sport, and capitalism is the most controlled system, whose motto is...&quot;Coxerunt vobis, Jack, ego sum al'right!"

Nah. Sunday's game is just another football match between two local clubs, both of which need to win the three points. The historical and traditional rivalry has been lost in the turgid atmosphere of austerity and loss of hope for a brighter future.

Whatever the outcome Sunday, the result won't pay my bills, it won't feed me, and it won't put jobs back into an economy deliberately crushed by the wealthy. So, pardon me if you find me yawning at the prospect of a local derby when I have greater things to concern me. No doubt, i'll be checking the score sometime in the afternoon, but merely out of curious interest.

Dear me, dullard, get a life - not that I've read your drivel, like. How about using paragraphs or have you ''not done 'em yet?''
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Will you be one of the mighty 4,000 grunts visiting us on Sunday? No, thought not.
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Get some Kleenex and wipe your screen down, good lad.

Chris P Bacon wrote:
You can fool some of the people all of the time or all of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all of the time. You can see the truth of this old saying by looking at the gates of both clubs. While I expect a pretty full gate on Sunday, it can't be long before an E. Lancs Derby sees the same apathy as seen in the capital city of Scotland when the Hi-bees play the Jambos; a local derby watched by a half-empty stadium. I think people by and large have had enough. The results may not be great but if there's some excitement on the pitch, people will turn up. When there's no spark or enjoyment to be had, the gates will fall further. And why not? People can stay at home with cheap supermarket plonk and watch a humdinger of a Premier League or Champions' League game.

An interesting comment, as an exiled Edinburgh boy there are some interesting parallells between Rovers current plight and the ruination of Hearts by a succession of dubious "investors" Football clubs are playthings for wealthy people with more money than sense and almost without exception these people have no empathy with the city/town, the club and its supporters. Its great when a Jack Walker invests, a local guy and a fan from boyhood. But the Venkys and people like them.............its a slippery slope :-(

@Eddyo:
"...not that I've read your drivel..."

Right there and then, you've just proved to the world what an utter pratt you are. Idiocy and stupidity are unfortunate aspects that make up a diverse world, and you prove that point in spades.

As much as we would always want to win the derby with Burnley, losing it isn't going to be as bad as one or two on here think it is. Truth is, the last two and half years has dulled rovers fans expectations and we have become more accustomed to disappointment and being let down. We don't build ourselves up as much now sonot as far to fall. I'm usually excited about this fixture but I'm just expecting more of the same Appleton dire tripe. Burnley at least allow the ball to make contact with the pitch

merlinrabbit wrote:
As much as we would always want to win the derby with Burnley, losing it isn't going to be as bad as one or two on here think it is. Truth is, the last two and half years has dulled rovers fans expectations and we have become more accustomed to disappointment and being let down. We don't build ourselves up as much now sonot as far to fall. I'm usually excited about this fixture but I'm just expecting more of the same Appleton dire tripe. Burnley at least allow the ball to make contact with the pitch

'Burnley at least allow the ball to make contact with the pitch'

I wouldn't be too sure about that, the ball spends around 20% of the time being passed pointlessly around in our own half, 20% of the time in the air, 60% with the opposition.

I think it will finish 0-0, 1-1, or 1-0 either way. So if we bet on under 2.5 goals in the game, we'll be quids in!

Major Tom wrote:
Did anybody hear that bang last night? That was the sound of a bubble of hope bursting over Boll-Ewood. Sunday is Blackbun with Darwin Rovers cup final. They will think they're champions of uefa if they get any kind of result against a proper family club like us, the mighty clarets.
UTC

You deaf or daft? Any bubbles floating over ewood burst ages ago hence the low turn out. It seems to be you who has an inflated view of rovers status. It's the way you give your own club something to compete with instead of accepting that your sole aim this season is to beat an already beaten club

BananaClarets wrote:

merlinrabbit wrote:
As much as we would always want to win the derby with Burnley, losing it isn't going to be as bad as one or two on here think it is. Truth is, the last two and half years has dulled rovers fans expectations and we have become more accustomed to disappointment and being let down. We don't build ourselves up as much now sonot as far to fall. I'm usually excited about this fixture but I'm just expecting more of the same Appleton dire tripe. Burnley at least allow the ball to make contact with the pitch

'Burnley at least allow the ball to make contact with the pitch'

I wouldn't be too sure about that, the ball spends around 20% of the time being passed pointlessly around in our own half, 20% of the time in the air, 60% with the opposition.

That's 20%more than rovers then

Why don't the LET call it the clash of the Titans? After all we all think 0-0?
Football is all about hype and as I have said before come July SS will tell us all that the following season will be the best PL season ever with the best league in the world etc.
Look at our national game, semi finals in Italia 90 with a team that arguably were good enough to win it. Current team miles behind that one and we are nowhere near winning anything.
SS tried to buy MANure but was blocked so what does that tell you about their intentions?
Football - reborn in 1992 and wrecked forever. Keep your PL trophy and try not to choke on it as it has wrecked any hope for us all!

Less of the boing chit chat it will be,
Rovers 3 Dingles 0
hope dingles dont smash their town up as usual!
I think rovers will get relegated.
They didnt annouce substitutes changes
at ewood last night just the crowd
changes!

regardless of the derby result,,although l think burnley will be more fired up and may just nick it,l dont want agnew shaw and appleton at Ewood park a minute longer than neccesary, all three are out of their depth,,not to mention the inept Venkys,,coyb

Gammon Flap wrote:

Keen O to Get Kean Out wrote:

Gammon Flap wrote:

Keen O to Get Kean Out wrote: who is switching the lights out on these two destroyed clubs, it all seems irrelavant now

I think you need to speak for yourself sunshine - we aren't destroyed, we are just in a bit of a bad run of form. We are still 11th in the table having won 3 and drawn 1 of our 6 away Championship league fixtures this season. Get ready for your hearts to be broken.

i remmeber the days at turf getting exited about playing burnley, and both teams could compete with passion, fact is football is ruined now, our national sport is gone, Burnley and Blackburn are history im afraid, dont lead yourself into a false sense of security about your form , you have no more cash than us

Who said anything about cash?

Obviously you don't understand the irony of your comments do you?

You are a supporter of a team that has smashed the Championship transfer record, a team that has probably spent the best part of £15 million in the summer including wages, and yet all you have done throughout the last two years is whine and whinge and feel like you have some God-given right to be back dining at the top table.

Venkys still are subsidising every single one of you moaning whingers with THE CHEAPEST tickets in the entire division and yet you still complain and moan - you are living in Cloud Cuckoo Land, you are reaping what you sow and please don't compare our clubs again - I need to shower my mind now.

Hope it was a golden one.

Keen O to Get Kean Out wrote:

BananaClarets wrote:
Burnley and Rovers fans have never united on anything but there seems to be a couple of things they certainly agree on: - Their teams are playing sh!t, awful, painfully dull football. - Nobody is really that @rsed about a derby game that used to be one of the most electric in the country.

agree banana xx well said and tell your fellow fan gammin man to stop bearing a grudge, i want to see both teams competing at the top level and doing well, not being bitter and twisted

Hate to say it but I have to totally agree.

In 43 years of being a Rovers fan this is the first time I can't "get up" for a game against Burnley, and I think I have been to the majority of the games played during that time and enjoyed every one irrespective of who won.

Great players on both sides, expectation, passion, pride, banter, the twice yearly bragging rights. etc; etc.

These are all gone.

Now it's all about money, the "Holy Grail" of the Premier League where small town clubs like ours really don't have a chance to compete against billionaire owners, millionaire players and managers who kiss the badge one day and go somewhere better the next.

It's the fans that suffer every time, but in reality the fans don't count anymore.

On Sunday I expect to see two poor teams (I use the word teams loosely) full of fear play out a dull, lifeless, heartless game, I really do hope I am wrong.

Irrespective of the result, a win for either side will give their fans a brief lift, but it will be papering over the ever increasing cracks.

I will keep going to Ewood because its an habit, but I have no confidence in the players, management team, owners or for that matter anyone associated with the club anymore.

Elysiumfire wrote:
The English football game has become a reflection of society. It's all about the 'haves' and the 'have nots', and the fact that the 'haves' are better placed to keep themselves...well, having more, at the expense of the 'have nots'.

Blackburn Rovers were once a Premiership club, it isn't anymore, it's just another struggling Championship side, with the same dream as all the other Championship sides, wanting to make it into the Premier League, because apparently, it the football heaven, and we as fans of struggling championship sides are meant to believe in the dream.

I for one do not. The English Premier League is probably the most manipulated and contrived football league in the world. Most of the money made in English football is funnelled towards the Premier League. If it were a roulette table, it would be crooked. If it were dice, they would be loaded. Whether you accept this view is irrelevant, it's just my opinion, and I say things as I see them. When your club is doing well, it eases the unease, and makes it easy not to think on such things. It makes it palatable to participate in the circus and the charade.

Take a look around the town you live in. Both towns are being constricted by ever-tightening economic strangulation, and the people are meant to believe it is all for their good. Even though, those doing the constricting are not suffering the same, because they have seen to it that austerity doesn't touch them, and they have the temerity of suggesting that we are all in it together. We are not!

Your Man Utd's and your Man City's and your Chelsea's don't care about the financial struggles of other clubs, neither do the fans of those clubs...'sod you Jack, we're al'right' is their attitude. Blackburn Rovers fans didn't give a **** when Jack Walker piled his money into the team, whilst other local clubs struggled on. Now that they, too, are once again a stuggling club the perspective has changed somewhat. Football is quite the capitalistic sport, and capitalism is the most controlled system, whose motto is...&quot;Coxerunt vobis, Jack, ego sum al'right!"

Nah. Sunday's game is just another football match between two local clubs, both of which need to win the three points. The historical and traditional rivalry has been lost in the turgid atmosphere of austerity and loss of hope for a brighter future.

Whatever the outcome Sunday, the result won't pay my bills, it won't feed me, and it won't put jobs back into an economy deliberately crushed by the wealthy. So, pardon me if you find me yawning at the prospect of a local derby when I have greater things to concern me. No doubt, i'll be checking the score sometime in the afternoon, but merely out of curious interest.

enjoyed reading your book,,l mean post, you are correct on the bulk of your views and l would be the first to say the modern game is geared for only the wealthy clubs to prosper ,,but at the expense of the poorer ones, like burnley and indeed blackburn,,,who cannot sustain themselves without huge cash injections, eventually there will only be an elite league that is professional,,the rest will either fold or be non professional,,and l think we better start realising that fact sooner rather than later,,,,

BFC and BRFC fans all agreeing !,, thats a sign that the game has lost its Derby rivalry and passionate edge between two great Ex top clubs,, RIP cheers Venkys you've done a wonderfull job !!