Full time: Brighton 1 Blackburn 1

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A second half Vicente penalty helped Brighton to secure a point at home to Blackburn.

Blackburn took the lead with a powerful header from Scott Dann in a first half otherwise dominated by Brighton.

Martin Olsson was adjudged to have handled a Vicente cross after the break, giving the Brighton winger the chance to equalise from the penalty spot.

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10:32pm Tue 12 Feb 13

modan says...

A very good point indeed ?
Rovers were not at their best but a well earned point for being away.
Appleton won three drew one might say it was a good point, i agree .


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A very good point indeed ? Rovers were not at their best but a well earned point for being away. Appleton won three drew one might say it was a good point, i agree . www india skyscrappercity.com india has emerged Obama president of usa modan
  • Score: -1

10:39pm Tue 12 Feb 13

hasslem hasslem says...

if you're 'appy and you know it and you really want to show it, clap your hands!
if you're 'appy and you know it and you really want to show it, clap your hands! hasslem hasslem
  • Score: 9

10:40pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Dukes says...

Good point but should have been 3 points

anyway its seems Preston may sack their manager soon.

Modan who are you by the way you doing loads of talking and on venkys.
Good point but should have been 3 points anyway its seems Preston may sack their manager soon. Modan who are you by the way you doing loads of talking and on venkys. Dukes
  • Score: -3

10:42pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Harwoodstblue says...

Dukes wrote:
Good point but should have been 3 points

anyway its seems Preston may sack their manager soon.

Modan who are you by the way you doing loads of talking and on venkys.
Don't encourage him.
[quote][p][bold]Dukes[/bold] wrote: Good point but should have been 3 points anyway its seems Preston may sack their manager soon. Modan who are you by the way you doing loads of talking and on venkys.[/p][/quote]Don't encourage him. Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 0

10:42pm Tue 12 Feb 13

BashirShah says...

Dingles crow, Dingles crow
Dingles don't ya know?
Your time above the mighty Rovers
was as fleeting as the snow

Dingles blow, Austin's slow
Dingles don't ya know?
Your chance of beating my mighty Rovers
is as fleeting as the snow!
Dingles crow, Dingles crow Dingles don't ya know? Your time above the mighty Rovers was as fleeting as the snow Dingles blow, Austin's slow Dingles don't ya know? Your chance of beating my mighty Rovers is as fleeting as the snow! BashirShah
  • Score: 7

10:43pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Captain Dreckley says...

A hard fought point that we wouldn't have picked up without Appleton tightening up the defence. If Venkys are serious about promotion this year then they need to pull out all the stops in this loan window and bring in the 4 new faces the manager says we need.
Job well done this evening boys.
A hard fought point that we wouldn't have picked up without Appleton tightening up the defence. If Venkys are serious about promotion this year then they need to pull out all the stops in this loan window and bring in the 4 new faces the manager says we need. Job well done this evening boys. Captain Dreckley
  • Score: 6

10:43pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Captain Dreckley says...

A hard fought point that we wouldn't have picked up without Appleton tightening up the defence. If Venkys are serious about promotion this year then they need to pull out all the stops in this loan window and bring in the 4 new faces the manager says we need.
Job well done this evening boys.
A hard fought point that we wouldn't have picked up without Appleton tightening up the defence. If Venkys are serious about promotion this year then they need to pull out all the stops in this loan window and bring in the 4 new faces the manager says we need. Job well done this evening boys. Captain Dreckley
  • Score: 5

10:49pm Tue 12 Feb 13

modan says...

Captain Dreckley wrote:
A hard fought point that we wouldn't have picked up without Appleton tightening up the defence. If Venkys are serious about promotion this year then they need to pull out all the stops in this loan window and bring in the 4 new faces the manager says we need.
Job well done this evening boys.
I agree we need at least 4 faces if Venkys and the Board are serious about promotion ?
Rovers will be promoted sixteen games left who knows ?
Appleton will get it right he is right and a job weel done this evening.
Keep faith in Appleton and the boys.
[quote][p][bold]Captain Dreckley[/bold] wrote: A hard fought point that we wouldn't have picked up without Appleton tightening up the defence. If Venkys are serious about promotion this year then they need to pull out all the stops in this loan window and bring in the 4 new faces the manager says we need. Job well done this evening boys.[/p][/quote]I agree we need at least 4 faces if Venkys and the Board are serious about promotion ? Rovers will be promoted sixteen games left who knows ? Appleton will get it right he is right and a job weel done this evening. Keep faith in Appleton and the boys. modan
  • Score: 1

10:49pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Wild Rover says...

Very good point away and 7 out of last nine! Form at last..he's Appy and I'm Appy
Were all Appy!
Does that make us Appy Clappers..shhhh don't tell Dave the Dangerous
Very good point away and 7 out of last nine! Form at last..he's Appy and I'm Appy Were all Appy! Does that make us Appy Clappers..shhhh don't tell Dave the Dangerous Wild Rover
  • Score: 7

11:04pm Tue 12 Feb 13

modan says...

Dukes wrote:
Good point but should have been 3 points

anyway its seems Preston may sack their manager soon.

Modan who are you by the way you doing loads of talking and on venkys.
You forget owners are Indian the Venkys of Pune India.
A billionaire family based in India.
Maybe you forgot ? The Walkers left all the keys to Ewood Park at the estate agent and the locks have been changed.
Boardroom guys Agnew and Shaw is in charge of day to day running of the club.
Appleton wants more signings and asked the owners Venkys for more transfer funds for new players.
Two English Clubs are owned by Indians BRFC and QPR FC
Rest of the English clubs are owned by Arabs,Americans,Chin
ese,Italians,Thai and Russians.
Dingles is owned by you know who Barry Kilby worth around £50 Million
chicken feeds for Vekys who are worth £2 Billion or more. So that makes Blackburn the richest club in the Championsip with loads of money .
[quote][p][bold]Dukes[/bold] wrote: Good point but should have been 3 points anyway its seems Preston may sack their manager soon. Modan who are you by the way you doing loads of talking and on venkys.[/p][/quote]You forget owners are Indian the Venkys of Pune India. A billionaire family based in India. Maybe you forgot ? The Walkers left all the keys to Ewood Park at the estate agent and the locks have been changed. Boardroom guys Agnew and Shaw is in charge of day to day running of the club. Appleton wants more signings and asked the owners Venkys for more transfer funds for new players. Two English Clubs are owned by Indians BRFC and QPR FC Rest of the English clubs are owned by Arabs,Americans,Chin ese,Italians,Thai and Russians. Dingles is owned by you know who Barry Kilby worth around £50 Million chicken feeds for Vekys who are worth £2 Billion or more. So that makes Blackburn the richest club in the Championsip with loads of money . modan
  • Score: -12

11:10pm Tue 12 Feb 13

walshy2866 says...

I listened to it on Radio Lancashire, Simon Garner was summarizing and he's still a fully biased Rovers fan, good on you Garns, a proper Ewood legend and always will be to me who remember him terrorising 2nd div defenders with his clinical finishing while on 20 B&H a day!
Anyhow back to the game, we sounded well under the cosh for most of the game but the defence held strong. Sounded like we didn't create too much though and although I'm pleased we'd have rolled over earlier in the season in this sort of game, I'm keeping my feet on the ground because after all this was Brighton. Let's see how far we've come when we play arsenal on Sat.
I listened to it on Radio Lancashire, Simon Garner was summarizing and he's still a fully biased Rovers fan, good on you Garns, a proper Ewood legend and always will be to me who remember him terrorising 2nd div defenders with his clinical finishing while on 20 B&H a day! Anyhow back to the game, we sounded well under the cosh for most of the game but the defence held strong. Sounded like we didn't create too much though and although I'm pleased we'd have rolled over earlier in the season in this sort of game, I'm keeping my feet on the ground because after all this was Brighton. Let's see how far we've come when we play arsenal on Sat. walshy2866
  • Score: 4

11:33pm Tue 12 Feb 13

passingfootball says...

its a shame that the day they decide to break up the rhodes - ckr front pairing the rhodes fires a blank and the scoring run comes to an end, it was going to end one day anyway,

playing on the counter we need that blistering pace, berg chose king as that person, ideal against brighton slow central defenders, one or two passes before the ball is sprayed onto the wings and finishing the attack with a shot at goal,

if they found brighton hard arsenal will be twice as hard, the will do it just a bit faster, this game is a taster the fa cup tie, may see an extra body in central midfield to cope, a manager learns more from these games than the wins struggling teams in the league.
its a shame that the day they decide to break up the rhodes - ckr front pairing the rhodes fires a blank and the scoring run comes to an end, it was going to end one day anyway, playing on the counter we need that blistering pace, berg chose king as that person, ideal against brighton slow central defenders, one or two passes before the ball is sprayed onto the wings and finishing the attack with a shot at goal, if they found brighton hard arsenal will be twice as hard, the will do it just a bit faster, this game is a taster the fa cup tie, may see an extra body in central midfield to cope, a manager learns more from these games than the wins struggling teams in the league. passingfootball
  • Score: 4

12:11am Wed 13 Feb 13

Wellsy11 says...

A good point, yes. Another lead thrown away, though. We are still not good enough though for the play-offs and although we have done well to get 4 points in the last two games the performances have been mediocre. MA really needs to get CM sorted or we will not progress much further.
At least the defence seems more settled and sorted.... COYB....
A good point, yes. Another lead thrown away, though. We are still not good enough though for the play-offs and although we have done well to get 4 points in the last two games the performances have been mediocre. MA really needs to get CM sorted or we will not progress much further. At least the defence seems more settled and sorted.... COYB.... Wellsy11
  • Score: -3

12:33am Wed 13 Feb 13

flyingv1 says...

Wellsy11 wrote:
A good point, yes. Another lead thrown away, though. We are still not good enough though for the play-offs and although we have done well to get 4 points in the last two games the performances have been mediocre. MA really needs to get CM sorted or we will not progress much further.
At least the defence seems more settled and sorted.... COYB....
You are correct in what you say, but consider the opposite in that Rovers came back from 0-1 to draw. We would all be naturally delighted in gaining a point. Let's see who MA brings in soon. We are the same .......COYB...
[quote][p][bold]Wellsy11[/bold] wrote: A good point, yes. Another lead thrown away, though. We are still not good enough though for the play-offs and although we have done well to get 4 points in the last two games the performances have been mediocre. MA really needs to get CM sorted or we will not progress much further. At least the defence seems more settled and sorted.... COYB....[/p][/quote]You are correct in what you say, but consider the opposite in that Rovers came back from 0-1 to draw. We would all be naturally delighted in gaining a point. Let's see who MA brings in soon. We are the same .......COYB... flyingv1
  • Score: 4

7:35am Wed 13 Feb 13

K2rockall says...

Went to the game and we really weren't great at all! Dann and Hanley were immense and Kean also after a very shaky start. We created little or nothing all game. Murphy and Lowe are far too similar players. I actually thought Murphy played ok - at least tried to get the ball forward a few times without lumping it in the air to Rhodes ala Orr. Didn't notice Lowe at all in the second half.

We really need someone in midfield who is going to drive forward. I'm sorry to say it, but this game was crying out for someone like Rochina last night.

The second half was very poor. We just sat back and invited them on to us. Closing down was terrible. It was Orr just hoofing the ball away to Rhodes (who I thought had a really poor game tonight) that resulted in the passage of play which led to the penalty. The ball should have been comfortably in our possession.

I also couldn't understand the no subs. After Murphy was booked the crowd were trying to get him sent off appealing for every tackle he made (or didn't make). With ten minutes to go surely Pedersen would have been a safer bet. Even in stoppage time just to break up Brighton's momentum to make a few subs would have seemed sensible. Although maybe App was still having nightmares about Goodwillie's disastrous contribution the last time we played Brighton.

I will also be likely lambasted for saying this, but I do think it is possible to sub Rhodes sometimes. Really wasn't his night tonight. Also seemed to pick up a slight knock in the second half from an advertising board and surely Gomes deserves a run. He looked great in the warm up.
Went to the game and we really weren't great at all! Dann and Hanley were immense and Kean also after a very shaky start. We created little or nothing all game. Murphy and Lowe are far too similar players. I actually thought Murphy played ok - at least tried to get the ball forward a few times without lumping it in the air to Rhodes ala Orr. Didn't notice Lowe at all in the second half. We really need someone in midfield who is going to drive forward. I'm sorry to say it, but this game was crying out for someone like Rochina last night. The second half was very poor. We just sat back and invited them on to us. Closing down was terrible. It was Orr just hoofing the ball away to Rhodes (who I thought had a really poor game tonight) that resulted in the passage of play which led to the penalty. The ball should have been comfortably in our possession. I also couldn't understand the no subs. After Murphy was booked the crowd were trying to get him sent off appealing for every tackle he made (or didn't make). With ten minutes to go surely Pedersen would have been a safer bet. Even in stoppage time just to break up Brighton's momentum to make a few subs would have seemed sensible. Although maybe App was still having nightmares about Goodwillie's disastrous contribution the last time we played Brighton. I will also be likely lambasted for saying this, but I do think it is possible to sub Rhodes sometimes. Really wasn't his night tonight. Also seemed to pick up a slight knock in the second half from an advertising board and surely Gomes deserves a run. He looked great in the warm up. K2rockall
  • Score: 0

7:54am Wed 13 Feb 13

A Darener says...

What a difference a few weeks make. Good point. Still on course for play offs. MA can use Arsenal match to experiment with his team. After all we are not going to win the cup. So now is the time to try some different tactics.
Can't get used to all this positivity. It's doing my head in. Makes a change. Well done to the team and MA and his staff.
What a difference a few weeks make. Good point. Still on course for play offs. MA can use Arsenal match to experiment with his team. After all we are not going to win the cup. So now is the time to try some different tactics. Can't get used to all this positivity. It's doing my head in. Makes a change. Well done to the team and MA and his staff. A Darener
  • Score: 3

8:29am Wed 13 Feb 13

fitz808 says...

K2rockall wrote:
Went to the game and we really weren't great at all! Dann and Hanley were immense and Kean also after a very shaky start. We created little or nothing all game. Murphy and Lowe are far too similar players. I actually thought Murphy played ok - at least tried to get the ball forward a few times without lumping it in the air to Rhodes ala Orr. Didn't notice Lowe at all in the second half.

We really need someone in midfield who is going to drive forward. I'm sorry to say it, but this game was crying out for someone like Rochina last night.

The second half was very poor. We just sat back and invited them on to us. Closing down was terrible. It was Orr just hoofing the ball away to Rhodes (who I thought had a really poor game tonight) that resulted in the passage of play which led to the penalty. The ball should have been comfortably in our possession.

I also couldn't understand the no subs. After Murphy was booked the crowd were trying to get him sent off appealing for every tackle he made (or didn't make). With ten minutes to go surely Pedersen would have been a safer bet. Even in stoppage time just to break up Brighton's momentum to make a few subs would have seemed sensible. Although maybe App was still having nightmares about Goodwillie's disastrous contribution the last time we played Brighton.

I will also be likely lambasted for saying this, but I do think it is possible to sub Rhodes sometimes. Really wasn't his night tonight. Also seemed to pick up a slight knock in the second half from an advertising board and surely Gomes deserves a run. He looked great in the warm up.
cheers for the pitchside insight. mirrors what i heard on rovers player really.
having said that, can accept that this year isn't going to be particularly pretty, and away at brighton a point is a decent return.
there are positive points to take away too
1) not beaten
2) we look so much more committed and competent at the back now that appleton (and moore) has started to work with them
3) whilst they had a few chances, and kean made a decent double save (from the sound of it), brighton again needed a penalty to rescue the game. really, over the two games, we have dropped points because of poor refereeing. the mystery minutes at ewood and the lack of a clear cut penalty at brighton.

i agree with your point about rhodes to be honest. if he's not playing well he should be subject to the hook, just like anyone else. whilst appleton is probably hoping that he'll just sneak a goal, others should also be given the chance. however, last night i think we probably did have a lack of decent options, with a lack of cover on the right requiring CKR to play out there. all in all, an entirely acceptable job done by appleton and the lads.
[quote][p][bold]K2rockall[/bold] wrote: Went to the game and we really weren't great at all! Dann and Hanley were immense and Kean also after a very shaky start. We created little or nothing all game. Murphy and Lowe are far too similar players. I actually thought Murphy played ok - at least tried to get the ball forward a few times without lumping it in the air to Rhodes ala Orr. Didn't notice Lowe at all in the second half. We really need someone in midfield who is going to drive forward. I'm sorry to say it, but this game was crying out for someone like Rochina last night. The second half was very poor. We just sat back and invited them on to us. Closing down was terrible. It was Orr just hoofing the ball away to Rhodes (who I thought had a really poor game tonight) that resulted in the passage of play which led to the penalty. The ball should have been comfortably in our possession. I also couldn't understand the no subs. After Murphy was booked the crowd were trying to get him sent off appealing for every tackle he made (or didn't make). With ten minutes to go surely Pedersen would have been a safer bet. Even in stoppage time just to break up Brighton's momentum to make a few subs would have seemed sensible. Although maybe App was still having nightmares about Goodwillie's disastrous contribution the last time we played Brighton. I will also be likely lambasted for saying this, but I do think it is possible to sub Rhodes sometimes. Really wasn't his night tonight. Also seemed to pick up a slight knock in the second half from an advertising board and surely Gomes deserves a run. He looked great in the warm up.[/p][/quote]cheers for the pitchside insight. mirrors what i heard on rovers player really. having said that, can accept that this year isn't going to be particularly pretty, and away at brighton a point is a decent return. there are positive points to take away too 1) not beaten 2) we look so much more committed and competent at the back now that appleton (and moore) has started to work with them 3) whilst they had a few chances, and kean made a decent double save (from the sound of it), brighton again needed a penalty to rescue the game. really, over the two games, we have dropped points because of poor refereeing. the mystery minutes at ewood and the lack of a clear cut penalty at brighton. i agree with your point about rhodes to be honest. if he's not playing well he should be subject to the hook, just like anyone else. whilst appleton is probably hoping that he'll just sneak a goal, others should also be given the chance. however, last night i think we probably did have a lack of decent options, with a lack of cover on the right requiring CKR to play out there. all in all, an entirely acceptable job done by appleton and the lads. fitz808
  • Score: -3

8:53am Wed 13 Feb 13

bburnrover says...

Well another good result we are fighting with an unbalanced side.I just hope they back Appleton as we lost out on the Reading defender Weseem to be edging our bets with the lad from West Brom and Bentley so heres hoping we get that much needed right winger.Just keep Givet.
Well another good result we are fighting with an unbalanced side.I just hope they back Appleton as we lost out on the Reading defender Weseem to be edging our bets with the lad from West Brom and Bentley so heres hoping we get that much needed right winger.Just keep Givet. bburnrover
  • Score: 4

8:54am Wed 13 Feb 13

French Rover says...

its a mark of how far we have come in a few weeks that I felt a little disappointed that we did not go on and win the game after taking the lead...in reality a point at Brighton is very good and we are still going in the right direction. Just wish it was another league game and not the cup match at the weekend. Well done MA and his team for restoring some much needed sanity and pride to the club.
its a mark of how far we have come in a few weeks that I felt a little disappointed that we did not go on and win the game after taking the lead...in reality a point at Brighton is very good and we are still going in the right direction. Just wish it was another league game and not the cup match at the weekend. Well done MA and his team for restoring some much needed sanity and pride to the club. French Rover
  • Score: 3

9:22am Wed 13 Feb 13

Hovis1945 says...

In reallity Brighton have got to be looking at two points dropped, so we have to applaud 2 points saved. Sounded really tough on Radio Lancs but it also sounded like the team were playing for each other, the fans and the club. DJ did not get many mentions!
In reallity Brighton have got to be looking at two points dropped, so we have to applaud 2 points saved. Sounded really tough on Radio Lancs but it also sounded like the team were playing for each other, the fans and the club. DJ did not get many mentions! Hovis1945
  • Score: 3

9:28am Wed 13 Feb 13

Rover_gem says...

I agree French, we could really do with keeping the league form and momentum going rather than being sidetracked by the cup. In the last 10 games (Bowyer's reign and the cup game v Derby included), we have won 6, drawn 3 and lost 1. Pretty good going, but I think Saturday's game could slow that momentum down a little. That said, I am going and will be hoping for a cupset!
I agree French, we could really do with keeping the league form and momentum going rather than being sidetracked by the cup. In the last 10 games (Bowyer's reign and the cup game v Derby included), we have won 6, drawn 3 and lost 1. Pretty good going, but I think Saturday's game could slow that momentum down a little. That said, I am going and will be hoping for a cupset! Rover_gem
  • Score: 6

9:59am Wed 13 Feb 13

French Rover says...

Rover_gem wrote:
I agree French, we could really do with keeping the league form and momentum going rather than being sidetracked by the cup. In the last 10 games (Bowyer's reign and the cup game v Derby included), we have won 6, drawn 3 and lost 1. Pretty good going, but I think Saturday's game could slow that momentum down a little. That said, I am going and will be hoping for a cupset!
Give the lads a shout for me then please Rover_Gem..!

You never know though, its the cup and strange things can happen sometimes - but as long as we don't get anywhere near to a repeat of the not-so magnificent seven scoreline that is burned into the memory and still hurts - then I will consider any result to be ok really. .
[quote][p][bold]Rover_gem[/bold] wrote: I agree French, we could really do with keeping the league form and momentum going rather than being sidetracked by the cup. In the last 10 games (Bowyer's reign and the cup game v Derby included), we have won 6, drawn 3 and lost 1. Pretty good going, but I think Saturday's game could slow that momentum down a little. That said, I am going and will be hoping for a cupset![/p][/quote]Give the lads a shout for me then please Rover_Gem..! You never know though, its the cup and strange things can happen sometimes - but as long as we don't get anywhere near to a repeat of the not-so magnificent seven scoreline that is burned into the memory and still hurts - then I will consider any result to be ok really. . French Rover
  • Score: 5

10:01am Wed 13 Feb 13

wsb679 says...

modan wrote:
Dukes wrote:
Good point but should have been 3 points

anyway its seems Preston may sack their manager soon.

Modan who are you by the way you doing loads of talking and on venkys.
You forget owners are Indian the Venkys of Pune India.
A billionaire family based in India.
Maybe you forgot ? The Walkers left all the keys to Ewood Park at the estate agent and the locks have been changed.
Boardroom guys Agnew and Shaw is in charge of day to day running of the club.
Appleton wants more signings and asked the owners Venkys for more transfer funds for new players.
Two English Clubs are owned by Indians BRFC and QPR FC
Rest of the English clubs are owned by Arabs,Americans,Chin

ese,Italians,Thai and Russians.
Dingles is owned by you know who Barry Kilby worth around £50 Million
chicken feeds for Vekys who are worth £2 Billion or more. So that makes Blackburn the richest club in the Championsip with loads of money .
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[quote][p][bold]modan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dukes[/bold] wrote: Good point but should have been 3 points anyway its seems Preston may sack their manager soon. Modan who are you by the way you doing loads of talking and on venkys.[/p][/quote]You forget owners are Indian the Venkys of Pune India. A billionaire family based in India. Maybe you forgot ? The Walkers left all the keys to Ewood Park at the estate agent and the locks have been changed. Boardroom guys Agnew and Shaw is in charge of day to day running of the club. Appleton wants more signings and asked the owners Venkys for more transfer funds for new players. Two English Clubs are owned by Indians BRFC and QPR FC Rest of the English clubs are owned by Arabs,Americans,Chin ese,Italians,Thai and Russians. Dingles is owned by you know who Barry Kilby worth around £50 Million chicken feeds for Vekys who are worth £2 Billion or more. So that makes Blackburn the richest club in the Championsip with loads of money .[/p][/quote]Modan!!.......YAWN.. .....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzz wsb679
  • Score: 4

10:19am Wed 13 Feb 13

Bill Carson says...

Brilliant match report from Andy Cryer... NOT!!

Good job a reader who actually went to the game posted his comments.

Coverage of Rovers is disgraceful sometimes, I mean who wanted to listen to PNE fail at Yeovil 'live' on Radio Lancs???
Brilliant match report from Andy Cryer... NOT!! Good job a reader who actually went to the game posted his comments. Coverage of Rovers is disgraceful sometimes, I mean who wanted to listen to PNE fail at Yeovil 'live' on Radio Lancs??? Bill Carson
  • Score: -3

10:43am Wed 13 Feb 13

forever blue and white says...

Rover_gem wrote:
I agree French, we could really do with keeping the league form and momentum going rather than being sidetracked by the cup. In the last 10 games (Bowyer's reign and the cup game v Derby included), we have won 6, drawn 3 and lost 1. Pretty good going, but I think Saturday's game could slow that momentum down a little. That said, I am going and will be hoping for a cupset!
To be honest as much as I always want Rovers to win it would not be the end of the world if we don't win the cup game. We have only lost 1 in 10 now so arguably we are due a defeat. I would rather that came at Arsenal on Saturday than Tuesday at Hull. Don't really like to say it though. Always want Rovers to win.
[quote][p][bold]Rover_gem[/bold] wrote: I agree French, we could really do with keeping the league form and momentum going rather than being sidetracked by the cup. In the last 10 games (Bowyer's reign and the cup game v Derby included), we have won 6, drawn 3 and lost 1. Pretty good going, but I think Saturday's game could slow that momentum down a little. That said, I am going and will be hoping for a cupset![/p][/quote]To be honest as much as I always want Rovers to win it would not be the end of the world if we don't win the cup game. We have only lost 1 in 10 now so arguably we are due a defeat. I would rather that came at Arsenal on Saturday than Tuesday at Hull. Don't really like to say it though. Always want Rovers to win. forever blue and white
  • Score: 5

11:00am Wed 13 Feb 13

hasslem hasslem says...

Bill Carson wrote:
Brilliant match report from Andy Cryer... NOT!!

Good job a reader who actually went to the game posted his comments.

Coverage of Rovers is disgraceful sometimes, I mean who wanted to listen to PNE fail at Yeovil 'live' on Radio Lancs???
digital radio lancs - clear as a bell, clean as a whistle
[quote][p][bold]Bill Carson[/bold] wrote: Brilliant match report from Andy Cryer... NOT!! Good job a reader who actually went to the game posted his comments. Coverage of Rovers is disgraceful sometimes, I mean who wanted to listen to PNE fail at Yeovil 'live' on Radio Lancs???[/p][/quote]digital radio lancs - clear as a bell, clean as a whistle hasslem hasslem
  • Score: 4

11:58am Wed 13 Feb 13

French Rover says...

Road Runner Road Runner wrote:
K2rockall wrote:
Went to the game and we really weren't great at all! Dann and Hanley were immense and Kean also after a very shaky start. We created little or nothing all game. Murphy and Lowe are far too similar players. I actually thought Murphy played ok - at least tried to get the ball forward a few times without lumping it in the air to Rhodes ala Orr. Didn't notice Lowe at all in the second half.

We really need someone in midfield who is going to drive forward. I'm sorry to say it, but this game was crying out for someone like Rochina last night.

The second half was very poor. We just sat back and invited them on to us. Closing down was terrible. It was Orr just hoofing the ball away to Rhodes (who I thought had a really poor game tonight) that resulted in the passage of play which led to the penalty. The ball should have been comfortably in our possession.

I also couldn't understand the no subs. After Murphy was booked the crowd were trying to get him sent off appealing for every tackle he made (or didn't make). With ten minutes to go surely Pedersen would have been a safer bet. Even in stoppage time just to break up Brighton's momentum to make a few subs would have seemed sensible. Although maybe App was still having nightmares about Goodwillie's disastrous contribution the last time we played Brighton.

I will also be likely lambasted for saying this, but I do think it is possible to sub Rhodes sometimes. Really wasn't his night tonight. Also seemed to pick up a slight knock in the second half from an advertising board and surely Gomes deserves a run. He looked great in the warm up.
Aye, a good account of last nights game, but I will say this - Brighton fans are the most unsporting, ungracious b'strds I've had the pleasure to come across since Stoke on their maiden season in the Prem. If that is how they wish to support the club then they can swivel for me.

A period in the first half in the ground you could here a pin drop such was the atmosphere with the home crowd.

528(approx) BRFC and we out sung them all evening on a freezing night !

Brighton, as you would expect had us under the cosh and still they never got behind their team until they thought I know what - let's boo and appeal for everything which makes this point the more sweeter for the B&W's.

24528 last night and 500 put them to shame. I will say this, Appleton and his charges appreciated the vocal away support fighting for that shirt.

The standard of refereeing along with his assistants was shocking. Penalty ? Well, from my perspective ? When are these people going to take the conditions into consideration ?

My man of the match ?

Jake Kean after pulling off two simultaneous point blank saves prior to one that was equal. Awesome. This boy can keep let me tell you !

Had they gone in we would have been looking at at 3 or 4 defeat.

Poyet as gone down in my estimation with his South American managerial antics ! They did it at Ewood and they did it last evening, but still our boys stood up to it.

We had five bookings to their one. Shocking !

Kean was livid at the assistant(along with others) and he went into the book.

A priceless point well earned making our 13 hour round trip a tad easier.

A massive thanks to Appleton and the boys in the B&W shirt for that.

Arte et labore
cheers for the good reports Woody and K2. Sounds a little like the Alamo all over again so a point in those circumstances is excellent. I heard CKR was winding one section of the Brighton fans up by implying they were all of the 'men who like men' persuasion?
[quote][p][bold]Road Runner Road Runner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]K2rockall[/bold] wrote: Went to the game and we really weren't great at all! Dann and Hanley were immense and Kean also after a very shaky start. We created little or nothing all game. Murphy and Lowe are far too similar players. I actually thought Murphy played ok - at least tried to get the ball forward a few times without lumping it in the air to Rhodes ala Orr. Didn't notice Lowe at all in the second half. We really need someone in midfield who is going to drive forward. I'm sorry to say it, but this game was crying out for someone like Rochina last night. The second half was very poor. We just sat back and invited them on to us. Closing down was terrible. It was Orr just hoofing the ball away to Rhodes (who I thought had a really poor game tonight) that resulted in the passage of play which led to the penalty. The ball should have been comfortably in our possession. I also couldn't understand the no subs. After Murphy was booked the crowd were trying to get him sent off appealing for every tackle he made (or didn't make). With ten minutes to go surely Pedersen would have been a safer bet. Even in stoppage time just to break up Brighton's momentum to make a few subs would have seemed sensible. Although maybe App was still having nightmares about Goodwillie's disastrous contribution the last time we played Brighton. I will also be likely lambasted for saying this, but I do think it is possible to sub Rhodes sometimes. Really wasn't his night tonight. Also seemed to pick up a slight knock in the second half from an advertising board and surely Gomes deserves a run. He looked great in the warm up.[/p][/quote]Aye, a good account of last nights game, but I will say this - Brighton fans are the most unsporting, ungracious b'strds I've had the pleasure to come across since Stoke on their maiden season in the Prem. If that is how they wish to support the club then they can swivel for me. A period in the first half in the ground you could here a pin drop such was the atmosphere with the home crowd. 528(approx) BRFC and we out sung them all evening on a freezing night ! Brighton, as you would expect had us under the cosh and still they never got behind their team until they thought I know what - let's boo and appeal for everything which makes this point the more sweeter for the B&W's. 24528 last night and 500 put them to shame. I will say this, Appleton and his charges appreciated the vocal away support fighting for that shirt. The standard of refereeing along with his assistants was shocking. Penalty ? Well, from my perspective ? When are these people going to take the conditions into consideration ? My man of the match ? Jake Kean after pulling off two simultaneous point blank saves prior to one that was equal. Awesome. This boy can keep let me tell you ! Had they gone in we would have been looking at at 3 or 4 defeat. Poyet as gone down in my estimation with his South American managerial antics ! They did it at Ewood and they did it last evening, but still our boys stood up to it. We had five bookings to their one. Shocking ! Kean was livid at the assistant(along with others) and he went into the book. A priceless point well earned making our 13 hour round trip a tad easier. A massive thanks to Appleton and the boys in the B&W shirt for that. Arte et labore[/p][/quote]cheers for the good reports Woody and K2. Sounds a little like the Alamo all over again so a point in those circumstances is excellent. I heard CKR was winding one section of the Brighton fans up by implying they were all of the 'men who like men' persuasion? French Rover
  • Score: -3

12:50pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Road Runner Road Runner says...

French Rover wrote:
Road Runner Road Runner wrote:
K2rockall wrote:
Went to the game and we really weren't great at all! Dann and Hanley were immense and Kean also after a very shaky start. We created little or nothing all game. Murphy and Lowe are far too similar players. I actually thought Murphy played ok - at least tried to get the ball forward a few times without lumping it in the air to Rhodes ala Orr. Didn't notice Lowe at all in the second half.

We really need someone in midfield who is going to drive forward. I'm sorry to say it, but this game was crying out for someone like Rochina last night.

The second half was very poor. We just sat back and invited them on to us. Closing down was terrible. It was Orr just hoofing the ball away to Rhodes (who I thought had a really poor game tonight) that resulted in the passage of play which led to the penalty. The ball should have been comfortably in our possession.

I also couldn't understand the no subs. After Murphy was booked the crowd were trying to get him sent off appealing for every tackle he made (or didn't make). With ten minutes to go surely Pedersen would have been a safer bet. Even in stoppage time just to break up Brighton's momentum to make a few subs would have seemed sensible. Although maybe App was still having nightmares about Goodwillie's disastrous contribution the last time we played Brighton.

I will also be likely lambasted for saying this, but I do think it is possible to sub Rhodes sometimes. Really wasn't his night tonight. Also seemed to pick up a slight knock in the second half from an advertising board and surely Gomes deserves a run. He looked great in the warm up.
Aye, a good account of last nights game, but I will say this - Brighton fans are the most unsporting, ungracious b'strds I've had the pleasure to come across since Stoke on their maiden season in the Prem. If that is how they wish to support the club then they can swivel for me.

A period in the first half in the ground you could here a pin drop such was the atmosphere with the home crowd.

528(approx) BRFC and we out sung them all evening on a freezing night !

Brighton, as you would expect had us under the cosh and still they never got behind their team until they thought I know what - let's boo and appeal for everything which makes this point the more sweeter for the B&W's.

24528 last night and 500 put them to shame. I will say this, Appleton and his charges appreciated the vocal away support fighting for that shirt.

The standard of refereeing along with his assistants was shocking. Penalty ? Well, from my perspective ? When are these people going to take the conditions into consideration ?

My man of the match ?

Jake Kean after pulling off two simultaneous point blank saves prior to one that was equal. Awesome. This boy can keep let me tell you !

Had they gone in we would have been looking at at 3 or 4 defeat.

Poyet as gone down in my estimation with his South American managerial antics ! They did it at Ewood and they did it last evening, but still our boys stood up to it.

We had five bookings to their one. Shocking !

Kean was livid at the assistant(along with others) and he went into the book.

A priceless point well earned making our 13 hour round trip a tad easier.

A massive thanks to Appleton and the boys in the B&W shirt for that.

Arte et labore
cheers for the good reports Woody and K2. Sounds a little like the Alamo all over again so a point in those circumstances is excellent. I heard CKR was winding one section of the Brighton fans up by implying they were all of the 'men who like men' persuasion?
Good day Mr French ;-)

Your correct, sir.

CKR gave a cameo of that which you point out and rightly so in my opinion.

They lost a player just before H/T who had 3 or 4 minutes attention in our area who was applauded off with what looked like an ankle turn ?

2nd half, as I point out, became spitting dummy's out. Rhodes, who CRASHED into the hoardings was mocked and jeered by those in that section along with the rest of the crowd baying at him. For chuffs sake, he was in pain, but when that developed he dusted himself down got back on the pitch going about his business.

I remember CKR doing a Robbie Fowler action quite possibly toward that section, but also their players who behaved like prima donnas !

Hard fought, ugly and down right dirty the night. Non the less a point worth taking my friend. You've seen these sort of games yourself thus I know you know what I'm saying.

Much still to be achieved, but going in the right direction, Mr French. I'm having some of that esp on an evening as of last night !

What a journey mate ! 62mph restricted - Aaaaaaargh !

Great company though and all in good spirit. We'll do it all again as you know - lol ;-)

Arte et labore
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Road Runner Road Runner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]K2rockall[/bold] wrote: Went to the game and we really weren't great at all! Dann and Hanley were immense and Kean also after a very shaky start. We created little or nothing all game. Murphy and Lowe are far too similar players. I actually thought Murphy played ok - at least tried to get the ball forward a few times without lumping it in the air to Rhodes ala Orr. Didn't notice Lowe at all in the second half. We really need someone in midfield who is going to drive forward. I'm sorry to say it, but this game was crying out for someone like Rochina last night. The second half was very poor. We just sat back and invited them on to us. Closing down was terrible. It was Orr just hoofing the ball away to Rhodes (who I thought had a really poor game tonight) that resulted in the passage of play which led to the penalty. The ball should have been comfortably in our possession. I also couldn't understand the no subs. After Murphy was booked the crowd were trying to get him sent off appealing for every tackle he made (or didn't make). With ten minutes to go surely Pedersen would have been a safer bet. Even in stoppage time just to break up Brighton's momentum to make a few subs would have seemed sensible. Although maybe App was still having nightmares about Goodwillie's disastrous contribution the last time we played Brighton. I will also be likely lambasted for saying this, but I do think it is possible to sub Rhodes sometimes. Really wasn't his night tonight. Also seemed to pick up a slight knock in the second half from an advertising board and surely Gomes deserves a run. He looked great in the warm up.[/p][/quote]Aye, a good account of last nights game, but I will say this - Brighton fans are the most unsporting, ungracious b'strds I've had the pleasure to come across since Stoke on their maiden season in the Prem. If that is how they wish to support the club then they can swivel for me. A period in the first half in the ground you could here a pin drop such was the atmosphere with the home crowd. 528(approx) BRFC and we out sung them all evening on a freezing night ! Brighton, as you would expect had us under the cosh and still they never got behind their team until they thought I know what - let's boo and appeal for everything which makes this point the more sweeter for the B&W's. 24528 last night and 500 put them to shame. I will say this, Appleton and his charges appreciated the vocal away support fighting for that shirt. The standard of refereeing along with his assistants was shocking. Penalty ? Well, from my perspective ? When are these people going to take the conditions into consideration ? My man of the match ? Jake Kean after pulling off two simultaneous point blank saves prior to one that was equal. Awesome. This boy can keep let me tell you ! Had they gone in we would have been looking at at 3 or 4 defeat. Poyet as gone down in my estimation with his South American managerial antics ! They did it at Ewood and they did it last evening, but still our boys stood up to it. We had five bookings to their one. Shocking ! Kean was livid at the assistant(along with others) and he went into the book. A priceless point well earned making our 13 hour round trip a tad easier. A massive thanks to Appleton and the boys in the B&W shirt for that. Arte et labore[/p][/quote]cheers for the good reports Woody and K2. Sounds a little like the Alamo all over again so a point in those circumstances is excellent. I heard CKR was winding one section of the Brighton fans up by implying they were all of the 'men who like men' persuasion?[/p][/quote]Good day Mr French ;-) Your correct, sir. CKR gave a cameo of that which you point out and rightly so in my opinion. They lost a player just before H/T who had 3 or 4 minutes attention in our area who was applauded off with what looked like an ankle turn ? 2nd half, as I point out, became spitting dummy's out. Rhodes, who CRASHED into the hoardings was mocked and jeered by those in that section along with the rest of the crowd baying at him. For chuffs sake, he was in pain, but when that developed he dusted himself down got back on the pitch going about his business. I remember CKR doing a Robbie Fowler action quite possibly toward that section, but also their players who behaved like prima donnas ! Hard fought, ugly and down right dirty the night. Non the less a point worth taking my friend. You've seen these sort of games yourself thus I know you know what I'm saying. Much still to be achieved, but going in the right direction, Mr French. I'm having some of that esp on an evening as of last night ! What a journey mate ! 62mph restricted - Aaaaaaargh ! Great company though and all in good spirit. We'll do it all again as you know - lol ;-) Arte et labore Road Runner Road Runner
  • Score: -1

1:00pm Wed 13 Feb 13

srvp28 says...

K2rockall wrote:
Went to the game and we really weren't great at all! Dann and Hanley were immense and Kean also after a very shaky start. We created little or nothing all game. Murphy and Lowe are far too similar players. I actually thought Murphy played ok - at least tried to get the ball forward a few times without lumping it in the air to Rhodes ala Orr. Didn't notice Lowe at all in the second half. We really need someone in midfield who is going to drive forward. I'm sorry to say it, but this game was crying out for someone like Rochina last night. The second half was very poor. We just sat back and invited them on to us. Closing down was terrible. It was Orr just hoofing the ball away to Rhodes (who I thought had a really poor game tonight) that resulted in the passage of play which led to the penalty. The ball should have been comfortably in our possession. I also couldn't understand the no subs. After Murphy was booked the crowd were trying to get him sent off appealing for every tackle he made (or didn't make). With ten minutes to go surely Pedersen would have been a safer bet. Even in stoppage time just to break up Brighton's momentum to make a few subs would have seemed sensible. Although maybe App was still having nightmares about Goodwillie's disastrous contribution the last time we played Brighton. I will also be likely lambasted for saying this, but I do think it is possible to sub Rhodes sometimes. Really wasn't his night tonight. Also seemed to pick up a slight knock in the second half from an advertising board and surely Gomes deserves a run. He looked great in the warm up.
I think Appleton was reluctant to substitute Rhodes because he's the sort of player that can do nothing all game then pop up in injury time to score the winner. Surprised that there were no substitutions though, especially with all the bookings we picked up. I would've substituted Lowe for Pedersen, Givet for Marcus Olsson, who ran a lot but didn't produce much, and pushed Martin Olsson forward as his final ball is much better than his brother's. I would've also taken Campbell off with ten minutes to go and given Gomes a run out as, out of all the other players, he's probably got the best understanding with Rhodes.

I can't agree with your digs at Orr though. The only reason he had to hoof it forward to Rhodes on occasion was because Kazim-Richards wasn't making himself available and the midfield was packed. You certainly can't blame him for a penalty that shouldn't have even been given, that's just ludicrous, especially when there was ample opportunity for other players to prevent Vicente from putting a cross in. Why not blame any of the other players who didn't put a tackle in leaving Orr no option but to clear the ball? You may not like him but he played no worse than any other defender, he actually made more blocks and tackles.

As for Kazim-Richards, he didn't seem too happy being back out on the right. Not sure what will happen to him if we do manage to get a right-winger in, he'll be competing with Campbell, Gomes, Best and Goodwillie for one spot. Still, a good point away from home against a very dominant Brighton team.

Bringing the Arsenal!
[quote][p][bold]K2rockall[/bold] wrote: Went to the game and we really weren't great at all! Dann and Hanley were immense and Kean also after a very shaky start. We created little or nothing all game. Murphy and Lowe are far too similar players. I actually thought Murphy played ok - at least tried to get the ball forward a few times without lumping it in the air to Rhodes ala Orr. Didn't notice Lowe at all in the second half. We really need someone in midfield who is going to drive forward. I'm sorry to say it, but this game was crying out for someone like Rochina last night. The second half was very poor. We just sat back and invited them on to us. Closing down was terrible. It was Orr just hoofing the ball away to Rhodes (who I thought had a really poor game tonight) that resulted in the passage of play which led to the penalty. The ball should have been comfortably in our possession. I also couldn't understand the no subs. After Murphy was booked the crowd were trying to get him sent off appealing for every tackle he made (or didn't make). With ten minutes to go surely Pedersen would have been a safer bet. Even in stoppage time just to break up Brighton's momentum to make a few subs would have seemed sensible. Although maybe App was still having nightmares about Goodwillie's disastrous contribution the last time we played Brighton. I will also be likely lambasted for saying this, but I do think it is possible to sub Rhodes sometimes. Really wasn't his night tonight. Also seemed to pick up a slight knock in the second half from an advertising board and surely Gomes deserves a run. He looked great in the warm up.[/p][/quote]I think Appleton was reluctant to substitute Rhodes because he's the sort of player that can do nothing all game then pop up in injury time to score the winner. Surprised that there were no substitutions though, especially with all the bookings we picked up. I would've substituted Lowe for Pedersen, Givet for Marcus Olsson, who ran a lot but didn't produce much, and pushed Martin Olsson forward as his final ball is much better than his brother's. I would've also taken Campbell off with ten minutes to go and given Gomes a run out as, out of all the other players, he's probably got the best understanding with Rhodes. I can't agree with your digs at Orr though. The only reason he had to hoof it forward to Rhodes on occasion was because Kazim-Richards wasn't making himself available and the midfield was packed. You certainly can't blame him for a penalty that shouldn't have even been given, that's just ludicrous, especially when there was ample opportunity for other players to prevent Vicente from putting a cross in. Why not blame any of the other players who didn't put a tackle in leaving Orr no option but to clear the ball? You may not like him but he played no worse than any other defender, he actually made more blocks and tackles. As for Kazim-Richards, he didn't seem too happy being back out on the right. Not sure what will happen to him if we do manage to get a right-winger in, he'll be competing with Campbell, Gomes, Best and Goodwillie for one spot. Still, a good point away from home against a very dominant Brighton team. Bringing the Arsenal! srvp28
  • Score: 7

1:03pm Wed 13 Feb 13

A Darener says...

Off topic.......Will Steve Kean apply for Preston job? After all he is a brlliant manager, will have them n Champions league in no time!
Off topic.......Will Steve Kean apply for Preston job? After all he is a brlliant manager, will have them n Champions league in no time! A Darener
  • Score: -1

1:16pm Wed 13 Feb 13

srvp28 says...

Bill Carson wrote:
Brilliant match report from Andy Cryer... NOT!! Good job a reader who actually went to the game posted his comments. Coverage of Rovers is disgraceful sometimes, I mean who wanted to listen to PNE fail at Yeovil 'live' on Radio Lancs???
The Wi-Fi was playing up at the AMEX.
[quote][p][bold]Bill Carson[/bold] wrote: Brilliant match report from Andy Cryer... NOT!! Good job a reader who actually went to the game posted his comments. Coverage of Rovers is disgraceful sometimes, I mean who wanted to listen to PNE fail at Yeovil 'live' on Radio Lancs???[/p][/quote]The Wi-Fi was playing up at the AMEX. srvp28
  • Score: 5

3:01pm Wed 13 Feb 13

MxMave says...

K2rockall wrote:
Went to the game and we really weren't great at all! Dann and Hanley were immense and Kean also after a very shaky start. We created little or nothing all game. Murphy and Lowe are far too similar players. I actually thought Murphy played ok - at least tried to get the ball forward a few times without lumping it in the air to Rhodes ala Orr. Didn't notice Lowe at all in the second half.

We really need someone in midfield who is going to drive forward. I'm sorry to say it, but this game was crying out for someone like Rochina last night.

The second half was very poor. We just sat back and invited them on to us. Closing down was terrible. It was Orr just hoofing the ball away to Rhodes (who I thought had a really poor game tonight) that resulted in the passage of play which led to the penalty. The ball should have been comfortably in our possession.

I also couldn't understand the no subs. After Murphy was booked the crowd were trying to get him sent off appealing for every tackle he made (or didn't make). With ten minutes to go surely Pedersen would have been a safer bet. Even in stoppage time just to break up Brighton's momentum to make a few subs would have seemed sensible. Although maybe App was still having nightmares about Goodwillie's disastrous contribution the last time we played Brighton.

I will also be likely lambasted for saying this, but I do think it is possible to sub Rhodes sometimes. Really wasn't his night tonight. Also seemed to pick up a slight knock in the second half from an advertising board and surely Gomes deserves a run. He looked great in the warm up.
Incase you havent noticed, Appleton does not approve of using subs. He thinks were good enough to beat a 14 man team with our 11 man team. Either that or we are back in "appearance fee" territory, the biggest indicator of this would be the hugely talented Nuno Gomez NEVER getting a run out, not even the last 5 mins to close the game out. It could be conspiracy theorist bull again but it really is starting to look dodgy that we don't make subs. You can appreciate it when your leading but not when your loosing or drawing and the game needs changing :\
[quote][p][bold]K2rockall[/bold] wrote: Went to the game and we really weren't great at all! Dann and Hanley were immense and Kean also after a very shaky start. We created little or nothing all game. Murphy and Lowe are far too similar players. I actually thought Murphy played ok - at least tried to get the ball forward a few times without lumping it in the air to Rhodes ala Orr. Didn't notice Lowe at all in the second half. We really need someone in midfield who is going to drive forward. I'm sorry to say it, but this game was crying out for someone like Rochina last night. The second half was very poor. We just sat back and invited them on to us. Closing down was terrible. It was Orr just hoofing the ball away to Rhodes (who I thought had a really poor game tonight) that resulted in the passage of play which led to the penalty. The ball should have been comfortably in our possession. I also couldn't understand the no subs. After Murphy was booked the crowd were trying to get him sent off appealing for every tackle he made (or didn't make). With ten minutes to go surely Pedersen would have been a safer bet. Even in stoppage time just to break up Brighton's momentum to make a few subs would have seemed sensible. Although maybe App was still having nightmares about Goodwillie's disastrous contribution the last time we played Brighton. I will also be likely lambasted for saying this, but I do think it is possible to sub Rhodes sometimes. Really wasn't his night tonight. Also seemed to pick up a slight knock in the second half from an advertising board and surely Gomes deserves a run. He looked great in the warm up.[/p][/quote]Incase you havent noticed, Appleton does not approve of using subs. He thinks were good enough to beat a 14 man team with our 11 man team. Either that or we are back in "appearance fee" territory, the biggest indicator of this would be the hugely talented Nuno Gomez NEVER getting a run out, not even the last 5 mins to close the game out. It could be conspiracy theorist bull again but it really is starting to look dodgy that we don't make subs. You can appreciate it when your leading but not when your loosing or drawing and the game needs changing :\ MxMave
  • Score: 0

3:03pm Wed 13 Feb 13

A Darener says...

They may as well put the kids on subs bench if he cannot use the ones he has on the bench.
They may as well put the kids on subs bench if he cannot use the ones he has on the bench. A Darener
  • Score: 2

3:55pm Wed 13 Feb 13

passingfootball says...

why is appleton so averse to making subs, is he still not got round to formulating his plan b yet, his missing out on giving game time to fringe players who can come in if first team players get injured or lose form,

about gomes appleton said something about that its not his way of having players come to rovers for their last payday, if that were the case murphy is in that category too, another rule for the foreigner, perhaps he trusts domestic players over foreign imports

but with all the experience you cant buy that, tbf gomes has been mysterously frozen out and not been given his chance after kean, out his 7 starts he had 4 goals still our 3rd highest goalscorer. he's much more precise with his finishing from just outside the box.
why is appleton so averse to making subs, is he still not got round to formulating his plan b yet, his missing out on giving game time to fringe players who can come in if first team players get injured or lose form, about gomes appleton said something about that its not his way of having players come to rovers for their last payday, if that were the case murphy is in that category too, another rule for the foreigner, perhaps he trusts domestic players over foreign imports but with all the experience you cant buy that, tbf gomes has been mysterously frozen out and not been given his chance after kean, out his 7 starts he had 4 goals still our 3rd highest goalscorer. he's much more precise with his finishing from just outside the box. passingfootball
  • Score: 1

4:51pm Wed 13 Feb 13

K2rockall says...

srvp28 wrote:
K2rockall wrote:
Went to the game and we really weren't great at all! Dann and Hanley were immense and Kean also after a very shaky start. We created little or nothing all game. Murphy and Lowe are far too similar players. I actually thought Murphy played ok - at least tried to get the ball forward a few times without lumping it in the air to Rhodes ala Orr. Didn't notice Lowe at all in the second half. We really need someone in midfield who is going to drive forward. I'm sorry to say it, but this game was crying out for someone like Rochina last night. The second half was very poor. We just sat back and invited them on to us. Closing down was terrible. It was Orr just hoofing the ball away to Rhodes (who I thought had a really poor game tonight) that resulted in the passage of play which led to the penalty. The ball should have been comfortably in our possession. I also couldn't understand the no subs. After Murphy was booked the crowd were trying to get him sent off appealing for every tackle he made (or didn't make). With ten minutes to go surely Pedersen would have been a safer bet. Even in stoppage time just to break up Brighton's momentum to make a few subs would have seemed sensible. Although maybe App was still having nightmares about Goodwillie's disastrous contribution the last time we played Brighton. I will also be likely lambasted for saying this, but I do think it is possible to sub Rhodes sometimes. Really wasn't his night tonight. Also seemed to pick up a slight knock in the second half from an advertising board and surely Gomes deserves a run. He looked great in the warm up.
I think Appleton was reluctant to substitute Rhodes because he's the sort of player that can do nothing all game then pop up in injury time to score the winner. Surprised that there were no substitutions though, especially with all the bookings we picked up. I would've substituted Lowe for Pedersen, Givet for Marcus Olsson, who ran a lot but didn't produce much, and pushed Martin Olsson forward as his final ball is much better than his brother's. I would've also taken Campbell off with ten minutes to go and given Gomes a run out as, out of all the other players, he's probably got the best understanding with Rhodes.

I can't agree with your digs at Orr though. The only reason he had to hoof it forward to Rhodes on occasion was because Kazim-Richards wasn't making himself available and the midfield was packed. You certainly can't blame him for a penalty that shouldn't have even been given, that's just ludicrous, especially when there was ample opportunity for other players to prevent Vicente from putting a cross in. Why not blame any of the other players who didn't put a tackle in leaving Orr no option but to clear the ball? You may not like him but he played no worse than any other defender, he actually made more blocks and tackles.

As for Kazim-Richards, he didn't seem too happy being back out on the right. Not sure what will happen to him if we do manage to get a right-winger in, he'll be competing with Campbell, Gomes, Best and Goodwillie for one spot. Still, a good point away from home against a very dominant Brighton team.

Bringing the Arsenal!
I agree that Orr was no worse than any other player on the field and he certainly made some decent blocks in and around the penalty area, but too many times he didn't look to see if there was a pass to make it was just a case of getting rid and trying to hit it in the direction of Rhodes. And we all know Rhodes is not that type of player - and he certainly wasn't that type of player last night!

The point I was trying to make with the goal is that we should have been in possession of the ball when the penalty. I realise you could say that for any goal, but it really was needless. Orr was not under much pressure to knock it long - we could have just held on to it if nothing was on.
[quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]K2rockall[/bold] wrote: Went to the game and we really weren't great at all! Dann and Hanley were immense and Kean also after a very shaky start. We created little or nothing all game. Murphy and Lowe are far too similar players. I actually thought Murphy played ok - at least tried to get the ball forward a few times without lumping it in the air to Rhodes ala Orr. Didn't notice Lowe at all in the second half. We really need someone in midfield who is going to drive forward. I'm sorry to say it, but this game was crying out for someone like Rochina last night. The second half was very poor. We just sat back and invited them on to us. Closing down was terrible. It was Orr just hoofing the ball away to Rhodes (who I thought had a really poor game tonight) that resulted in the passage of play which led to the penalty. The ball should have been comfortably in our possession. I also couldn't understand the no subs. After Murphy was booked the crowd were trying to get him sent off appealing for every tackle he made (or didn't make). With ten minutes to go surely Pedersen would have been a safer bet. Even in stoppage time just to break up Brighton's momentum to make a few subs would have seemed sensible. Although maybe App was still having nightmares about Goodwillie's disastrous contribution the last time we played Brighton. I will also be likely lambasted for saying this, but I do think it is possible to sub Rhodes sometimes. Really wasn't his night tonight. Also seemed to pick up a slight knock in the second half from an advertising board and surely Gomes deserves a run. He looked great in the warm up.[/p][/quote]I think Appleton was reluctant to substitute Rhodes because he's the sort of player that can do nothing all game then pop up in injury time to score the winner. Surprised that there were no substitutions though, especially with all the bookings we picked up. I would've substituted Lowe for Pedersen, Givet for Marcus Olsson, who ran a lot but didn't produce much, and pushed Martin Olsson forward as his final ball is much better than his brother's. I would've also taken Campbell off with ten minutes to go and given Gomes a run out as, out of all the other players, he's probably got the best understanding with Rhodes. I can't agree with your digs at Orr though. The only reason he had to hoof it forward to Rhodes on occasion was because Kazim-Richards wasn't making himself available and the midfield was packed. You certainly can't blame him for a penalty that shouldn't have even been given, that's just ludicrous, especially when there was ample opportunity for other players to prevent Vicente from putting a cross in. Why not blame any of the other players who didn't put a tackle in leaving Orr no option but to clear the ball? You may not like him but he played no worse than any other defender, he actually made more blocks and tackles. As for Kazim-Richards, he didn't seem too happy being back out on the right. Not sure what will happen to him if we do manage to get a right-winger in, he'll be competing with Campbell, Gomes, Best and Goodwillie for one spot. Still, a good point away from home against a very dominant Brighton team. Bringing the Arsenal![/p][/quote]I agree that Orr was no worse than any other player on the field and he certainly made some decent blocks in and around the penalty area, but too many times he didn't look to see if there was a pass to make it was just a case of getting rid and trying to hit it in the direction of Rhodes. And we all know Rhodes is not that type of player - and he certainly wasn't that type of player last night! The point I was trying to make with the goal is that we should have been in possession of the ball when the penalty. I realise you could say that for any goal, but it really was needless. Orr was not under much pressure to knock it long - we could have just held on to it if nothing was on. K2rockall
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srvp28 says...

K2rockall wrote:
srvp28 wrote:
K2rockall wrote: Went to the game and we really weren't great at all! Dann and Hanley were immense and Kean also after a very shaky start. We created little or nothing all game. Murphy and Lowe are far too similar players. I actually thought Murphy played ok - at least tried to get the ball forward a few times without lumping it in the air to Rhodes ala Orr. Didn't notice Lowe at all in the second half. We really need someone in midfield who is going to drive forward. I'm sorry to say it, but this game was crying out for someone like Rochina last night. The second half was very poor. We just sat back and invited them on to us. Closing down was terrible. It was Orr just hoofing the ball away to Rhodes (who I thought had a really poor game tonight) that resulted in the passage of play which led to the penalty. The ball should have been comfortably in our possession. I also couldn't understand the no subs. After Murphy was booked the crowd were trying to get him sent off appealing for every tackle he made (or didn't make). With ten minutes to go surely Pedersen would have been a safer bet. Even in stoppage time just to break up Brighton's momentum to make a few subs would have seemed sensible. Although maybe App was still having nightmares about Goodwillie's disastrous contribution the last time we played Brighton. I will also be likely lambasted for saying this, but I do think it is possible to sub Rhodes sometimes. Really wasn't his night tonight. Also seemed to pick up a slight knock in the second half from an advertising board and surely Gomes deserves a run. He looked great in the warm up.
I think Appleton was reluctant to substitute Rhodes because he's the sort of player that can do nothing all game then pop up in injury time to score the winner. Surprised that there were no substitutions though, especially with all the bookings we picked up. I would've substituted Lowe for Pedersen, Givet for Marcus Olsson, who ran a lot but didn't produce much, and pushed Martin Olsson forward as his final ball is much better than his brother's. I would've also taken Campbell off with ten minutes to go and given Gomes a run out as, out of all the other players, he's probably got the best understanding with Rhodes. I can't agree with your digs at Orr though. The only reason he had to hoof it forward to Rhodes on occasion was because Kazim-Richards wasn't making himself available and the midfield was packed. You certainly can't blame him for a penalty that shouldn't have even been given, that's just ludicrous, especially when there was ample opportunity for other players to prevent Vicente from putting a cross in. Why not blame any of the other players who didn't put a tackle in leaving Orr no option but to clear the ball? You may not like him but he played no worse than any other defender, he actually made more blocks and tackles. As for Kazim-Richards, he didn't seem too happy being back out on the right. Not sure what will happen to him if we do manage to get a right-winger in, he'll be competing with Campbell, Gomes, Best and Goodwillie for one spot. Still, a good point away from home against a very dominant Brighton team. Bringing the Arsenal!
I agree that Orr was no worse than any other player on the field and he certainly made some decent blocks in and around the penalty area, but too many times he didn't look to see if there was a pass to make it was just a case of getting rid and trying to hit it in the direction of Rhodes. And we all know Rhodes is not that type of player - and he certainly wasn't that type of player last night! The point I was trying to make with the goal is that we should have been in possession of the ball when the penalty. I realise you could say that for any goal, but it really was needless. Orr was not under much pressure to knock it long - we could have just held on to it if nothing was on.
Like I said, he didn't have much choice, Kazim-Richards wasn't making himself available enough and the midfield was swamped. If he'd held onto the ball, waiting all day for a player to make themselves available, then got dispossessed he'd be slated. If there's nobody to pass to nearby then you have no other option but to play it long. For all we know he could've been under instructions from Appy to try and find Rhodes if Kazim-Richards wasn't available, Rhodes was calling for it often enough. As for the penalty, it was never his fault in a million years, sorry.
[quote][p][bold]K2rockall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]K2rockall[/bold] wrote: Went to the game and we really weren't great at all! Dann and Hanley were immense and Kean also after a very shaky start. We created little or nothing all game. Murphy and Lowe are far too similar players. I actually thought Murphy played ok - at least tried to get the ball forward a few times without lumping it in the air to Rhodes ala Orr. Didn't notice Lowe at all in the second half. We really need someone in midfield who is going to drive forward. I'm sorry to say it, but this game was crying out for someone like Rochina last night. The second half was very poor. We just sat back and invited them on to us. Closing down was terrible. It was Orr just hoofing the ball away to Rhodes (who I thought had a really poor game tonight) that resulted in the passage of play which led to the penalty. The ball should have been comfortably in our possession. I also couldn't understand the no subs. After Murphy was booked the crowd were trying to get him sent off appealing for every tackle he made (or didn't make). With ten minutes to go surely Pedersen would have been a safer bet. Even in stoppage time just to break up Brighton's momentum to make a few subs would have seemed sensible. Although maybe App was still having nightmares about Goodwillie's disastrous contribution the last time we played Brighton. I will also be likely lambasted for saying this, but I do think it is possible to sub Rhodes sometimes. Really wasn't his night tonight. Also seemed to pick up a slight knock in the second half from an advertising board and surely Gomes deserves a run. He looked great in the warm up.[/p][/quote]I think Appleton was reluctant to substitute Rhodes because he's the sort of player that can do nothing all game then pop up in injury time to score the winner. Surprised that there were no substitutions though, especially with all the bookings we picked up. I would've substituted Lowe for Pedersen, Givet for Marcus Olsson, who ran a lot but didn't produce much, and pushed Martin Olsson forward as his final ball is much better than his brother's. I would've also taken Campbell off with ten minutes to go and given Gomes a run out as, out of all the other players, he's probably got the best understanding with Rhodes. I can't agree with your digs at Orr though. The only reason he had to hoof it forward to Rhodes on occasion was because Kazim-Richards wasn't making himself available and the midfield was packed. You certainly can't blame him for a penalty that shouldn't have even been given, that's just ludicrous, especially when there was ample opportunity for other players to prevent Vicente from putting a cross in. Why not blame any of the other players who didn't put a tackle in leaving Orr no option but to clear the ball? You may not like him but he played no worse than any other defender, he actually made more blocks and tackles. As for Kazim-Richards, he didn't seem too happy being back out on the right. Not sure what will happen to him if we do manage to get a right-winger in, he'll be competing with Campbell, Gomes, Best and Goodwillie for one spot. Still, a good point away from home against a very dominant Brighton team. Bringing the Arsenal![/p][/quote]I agree that Orr was no worse than any other player on the field and he certainly made some decent blocks in and around the penalty area, but too many times he didn't look to see if there was a pass to make it was just a case of getting rid and trying to hit it in the direction of Rhodes. And we all know Rhodes is not that type of player - and he certainly wasn't that type of player last night! The point I was trying to make with the goal is that we should have been in possession of the ball when the penalty. I realise you could say that for any goal, but it really was needless. Orr was not under much pressure to knock it long - we could have just held on to it if nothing was on.[/p][/quote]Like I said, he didn't have much choice, Kazim-Richards wasn't making himself available enough and the midfield was swamped. If he'd held onto the ball, waiting all day for a player to make themselves available, then got dispossessed he'd be slated. If there's nobody to pass to nearby then you have no other option but to play it long. For all we know he could've been under instructions from Appy to try and find Rhodes if Kazim-Richards wasn't available, Rhodes was calling for it often enough. As for the penalty, it was never his fault in a million years, sorry. srvp28
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