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Appleton ready for moves in the transfer market

MICHAEL Appleton is planning a swift move into the transfer market after admitting his Blackburn Rovers side needs some “freshening up”.

The Rovers boss will be working hard attempting to bring fresh faces into Ewood, with a couple of departures also on the cards.

Appleton is also hopeful of adding to his staff behind the scenes, with fitness coach Chris Neville expected to arrive from Portsmouth, together with the likely appointment of former Pompey head of recruitment Luke Dowling.

Appleton will be hoping to add before tomorrow’s visit of Brighton but that is likely to depend on the success of freeing up the wage bill with Gael Givet’s move away finally happening.

Appleton said: “I would like to think we can move quickly in the transfer market. I think it will give everyone a lift,players, staff and supporters if there are two or three new faces in there.

“Luke is a scout and is someone I rate very, very highly. There are a couple of different avenues we will be looking to improve and we will keep you informed if anything changes.”

Rovers entertain Brighton in the Championship tomorrow night, looking to respond to Saturday’s dismal 2-1 defeat to Charlton.

“As a group of people we have to collectively pick ourselves up, dust ourselves down and look forward to the challenge ahead, because it is certainly a big one,” said Appleton.

“They don’t get any tougher than Brighton because of the way we play. They are a very, very good footballing side, they probably pass the ball more than any other team in the division.

“They are difficult to play against but it is an opportunity. It is an opportunity for the players to make sure they respond in a positive manner and hopefully they will do.

“There is no time to shirk your responsibility, you are professional and you have to take the responsibility that comes with it.

“We have some good games coming up, a really really tough game against one of the best sides in the division in Brighton. So it is one the players have to take on board and look forward to.”

Appleton quit Blackpool after just two months in charge to become Rovers boss less than a fortnight ago.

And he admits the pressures are different at Ewood Park but believes the challenge has to be relished.

He said: “There is a difference in terms of the size of the clubs and the pressures that goes with it and the demands of the supporters, but surely that is a good thing?

“As a footballer, you don’t want to be known as mediocre, you don’t want to be involved in something that is average, you want to strive to better yourself all the time and you want to strive to be competitive.

“I am sure there are going to be times over the coming weeks and months where we really enjoy what we are seeing and doing.

“It is going to take a lot of turning around, you can see that, but I think there are enough players in the dressing room who have what we need and, with new fresh faces, change of personnel in certain areas of the pitch.”

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7:57am Mon 21 Jan 13

kazluvsrovers says...

No sh!t Sherlock!!!!
No sh!t Sherlock!!!! kazluvsrovers
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7:59am Mon 21 Jan 13

A Darener says...

Yap! Yap! Yap! How about some action?
Yap! Yap! Yap! How about some action? A Darener
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8:21am Mon 21 Jan 13

RoversSwiss says...

If they don't say anything they are ignoring the fans, if they do say something it's a conspiracy!! Appleton has a very tough job with sub standard players, a job being made 100 times more difficult by the boo-boys. What he said is correct, although I cant share his optimism.
If they don't say anything they are ignoring the fans, if they do say something it's a conspiracy!! Appleton has a very tough job with sub standard players, a job being made 100 times more difficult by the boo-boys. What he said is correct, although I cant share his optimism. RoversSwiss
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8:25am Mon 21 Jan 13

crankitup says...

Can I just say to the venkys .....welcome Blackburn and glad they got to see snow for the first time.
Can I just say to the venkys .....welcome Blackburn and glad they got to see snow for the first time. crankitup
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8:27am Mon 21 Jan 13

r30vrs says...

"We will keep you informed if anything changes".....I like the sound of that!
MA certainly comes across as a man with a plan, good luck we are all counting on you!!!!
"We will keep you informed if anything changes".....I like the sound of that! MA certainly comes across as a man with a plan, good luck we are all counting on you!!!! r30vrs
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8:31am Mon 21 Jan 13

J.C - Rishton says...

RoversSwiss wrote:
If they don't say anything they are ignoring the fans, if they do say something it's a conspiracy!! Appleton has a very tough job with sub standard players, a job being made 100 times more difficult by the boo-boys. What he said is correct, although I cant share his optimism.
Well what are supporters to do when they are treated so shamefully by the owners for so long??????????????

Instead of pathetically constantly blaming your long suffering fellow supporters why don't you (just for once) blame the people who are actually to blame - THE OWNERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - if they stoped running the club into the ground and stoped treating the supporters like dirt then supporters wouldnt do what human beings do in that situation - which is complain and moan.
[quote][p][bold]RoversSwiss[/bold] wrote: If they don't say anything they are ignoring the fans, if they do say something it's a conspiracy!! Appleton has a very tough job with sub standard players, a job being made 100 times more difficult by the boo-boys. What he said is correct, although I cant share his optimism.[/p][/quote]Well what are supporters to do when they are treated so shamefully by the owners for so long?????????????? Instead of pathetically constantly blaming your long suffering fellow supporters why don't you (just for once) blame the people who are actually to blame - THE OWNERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - if they stoped running the club into the ground and stoped treating the supporters like dirt then supporters wouldnt do what human beings do in that situation - which is complain and moan. J.C - Rishton
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8:41am Mon 21 Jan 13

Captain Dreckley says...

Appleton certainly has a handle on what the issues are with the squad. The question is, will he have the support of Venkys and Singh to make the changes needed. He reminds me of when Souness came to the club and put a rocket up.some of our big earning big name under achievers. Difference then was he was backed by Jack and JW. Whatever Singh has been spinning to Venkys, Saturdays performance and result didn't lie. Let's hope Appleton does get his three new faces in to strengthen midfield and defence.
Appleton certainly has a handle on what the issues are with the squad. The question is, will he have the support of Venkys and Singh to make the changes needed. He reminds me of when Souness came to the club and put a rocket up.some of our big earning big name under achievers. Difference then was he was backed by Jack and JW. Whatever Singh has been spinning to Venkys, Saturdays performance and result didn't lie. Let's hope Appleton does get his three new faces in to strengthen midfield and defence. Captain Dreckley
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8:46am Mon 21 Jan 13

A Darener says...

“They don’t get any tougher than Brighton because of the way we play. They are a very, very good footballing side, they probably pass the ball more than any other team in the division."

Because of the way "WE play" I think he meant they play? But Freudian slip or not he is certainly right!
“They don’t get any tougher than Brighton because of the way we play. They are a very, very good footballing side, they probably pass the ball more than any other team in the division." Because of the way "WE play" I think he meant they play? But Freudian slip or not he is certainly right! A Darener
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8:58am Mon 21 Jan 13

Riverside 7 says...

Well lets start with clearing out the deadwood at the club and make way for new recruits and our own youngsters.

Givet - I used to like his enthusiasm and commitment but after his 2 fall outs with Kean and his heart problems he dosn't seem to be the same player.
He has not been first choice for our last 3 managers - Berg, Bowyer & now Appleton and he must be on big wages. SELL

Dunn - Whilst he is a true Rovers fan, we must not let this overshadow the fact that he simply does not play enough games. He has made just 6 appearances out of 29 games this season. I have seen players recover from cruciate ligament injuries quicker that Dunn does from a calf strain. PAY UP HIS CONTRACT - RELEASE

Formica - he is not even a regular in the Championship. Kean/JA paid £3.5M for him. We would be lucky to get £1M for him. Neverthelss - SELL

Portuguese contingent - of the 6 players that Shebby signed from Portugal, only Fabio Nunes has showed that he has a chance of making it in England.
Most of the Portuguese players have not featured, especially since the colder weather started in November.
Gomes was a classy player and after a bright start to the season he is certainly not justifying the huge wages he is on. SELL / RELEASE

Etuhu - unless Appleton can find a way for him to play along side Murphy (I believe that he has already spoken to Roy Hodgson about this) then he should also go. He is another on big wages and has not impressed.
SELL

Robinson - how does a 33 year old professional sportsman become so overweight. Answer - lack of commitment. SELL

Olsson - over-rated as a full back. In my opinion, his best position is left side of midfield. If we can get over £4M for him - SELL

Dann - has certainly been a big disappointment since his arrival for around £6M. He makes too many mistakes. If we can get over £4M I would SELL.

Slew - I understand that he is now back at the club but he has hardly featured in the first team squad. Bought by Kean as one for the future! SELL

I am sure that I have missed quite a few out, but it shows the size of the task that Appleton now has.

Good luck. You are going to need it.
Well lets start with clearing out the deadwood at the club and make way for new recruits and our own youngsters. Givet - I used to like his enthusiasm and commitment but after his 2 fall outs with Kean and his heart problems he dosn't seem to be the same player. He has not been first choice for our last 3 managers - Berg, Bowyer & now Appleton and he must be on big wages. SELL Dunn - Whilst he is a true Rovers fan, we must not let this overshadow the fact that he simply does not play enough games. He has made just 6 appearances out of 29 games this season. I have seen players recover from cruciate ligament injuries quicker that Dunn does from a calf strain. PAY UP HIS CONTRACT - RELEASE Formica - he is not even a regular in the Championship. Kean/JA paid £3.5M for him. We would be lucky to get £1M for him. Neverthelss - SELL Portuguese contingent - of the 6 players that Shebby signed from Portugal, only Fabio Nunes has showed that he has a chance of making it in England. Most of the Portuguese players have not featured, especially since the colder weather started in November. Gomes was a classy player and after a bright start to the season he is certainly not justifying the huge wages he is on. SELL / RELEASE Etuhu - unless Appleton can find a way for him to play along side Murphy (I believe that he has already spoken to Roy Hodgson about this) then he should also go. He is another on big wages and has not impressed. SELL Robinson - how does a 33 year old professional sportsman become so overweight. Answer - lack of commitment. SELL Olsson - over-rated as a full back. In my opinion, his best position is left side of midfield. If we can get over £4M for him - SELL Dann - has certainly been a big disappointment since his arrival for around £6M. He makes too many mistakes. If we can get over £4M I would SELL. Slew - I understand that he is now back at the club but he has hardly featured in the first team squad. Bought by Kean as one for the future! SELL I am sure that I have missed quite a few out, but it shows the size of the task that Appleton now has. Good luck. You are going to need it. Riverside 7
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9:19am Mon 21 Jan 13

mark anthony says...

Riverside 7 wrote:
Well lets start with clearing out the deadwood at the club and make way for new recruits and our own youngsters.

Givet - I used to like his enthusiasm and commitment but after his 2 fall outs with Kean and his heart problems he dosn't seem to be the same player.
He has not been first choice for our last 3 managers - Berg, Bowyer & now Appleton and he must be on big wages. SELL

Dunn - Whilst he is a true Rovers fan, we must not let this overshadow the fact that he simply does not play enough games. He has made just 6 appearances out of 29 games this season. I have seen players recover from cruciate ligament injuries quicker that Dunn does from a calf strain. PAY UP HIS CONTRACT - RELEASE

Formica - he is not even a regular in the Championship. Kean/JA paid £3.5M for him. We would be lucky to get £1M for him. Neverthelss - SELL

Portuguese contingent - of the 6 players that Shebby signed from Portugal, only Fabio Nunes has showed that he has a chance of making it in England.
Most of the Portuguese players have not featured, especially since the colder weather started in November.
Gomes was a classy player and after a bright start to the season he is certainly not justifying the huge wages he is on. SELL / RELEASE

Etuhu - unless Appleton can find a way for him to play along side Murphy (I believe that he has already spoken to Roy Hodgson about this) then he should also go. He is another on big wages and has not impressed.
SELL

Robinson - how does a 33 year old professional sportsman become so overweight. Answer - lack of commitment. SELL

Olsson - over-rated as a full back. In my opinion, his best position is left side of midfield. If we can get over £4M for him - SELL

Dann - has certainly been a big disappointment since his arrival for around £6M. He makes too many mistakes. If we can get over £4M I would SELL.

Slew - I understand that he is now back at the club but he has hardly featured in the first team squad. Bought by Kean as one for the future! SELL

I am sure that I have missed quite a few out, but it shows the size of the task that Appleton now has.

Good luck. You are going to need it.
SELL the lot of them
[quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote: Well lets start with clearing out the deadwood at the club and make way for new recruits and our own youngsters. Givet - I used to like his enthusiasm and commitment but after his 2 fall outs with Kean and his heart problems he dosn't seem to be the same player. He has not been first choice for our last 3 managers - Berg, Bowyer & now Appleton and he must be on big wages. SELL Dunn - Whilst he is a true Rovers fan, we must not let this overshadow the fact that he simply does not play enough games. He has made just 6 appearances out of 29 games this season. I have seen players recover from cruciate ligament injuries quicker that Dunn does from a calf strain. PAY UP HIS CONTRACT - RELEASE Formica - he is not even a regular in the Championship. Kean/JA paid £3.5M for him. We would be lucky to get £1M for him. Neverthelss - SELL Portuguese contingent - of the 6 players that Shebby signed from Portugal, only Fabio Nunes has showed that he has a chance of making it in England. Most of the Portuguese players have not featured, especially since the colder weather started in November. Gomes was a classy player and after a bright start to the season he is certainly not justifying the huge wages he is on. SELL / RELEASE Etuhu - unless Appleton can find a way for him to play along side Murphy (I believe that he has already spoken to Roy Hodgson about this) then he should also go. He is another on big wages and has not impressed. SELL Robinson - how does a 33 year old professional sportsman become so overweight. Answer - lack of commitment. SELL Olsson - over-rated as a full back. In my opinion, his best position is left side of midfield. If we can get over £4M for him - SELL Dann - has certainly been a big disappointment since his arrival for around £6M. He makes too many mistakes. If we can get over £4M I would SELL. Slew - I understand that he is now back at the club but he has hardly featured in the first team squad. Bought by Kean as one for the future! SELL I am sure that I have missed quite a few out, but it shows the size of the task that Appleton now has. Good luck. You are going to need it.[/p][/quote]SELL the lot of them mark anthony
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9:26am Mon 21 Jan 13

Angry From Accrington says...

Riverside 7 wrote:
Well lets start with clearing out the deadwood at the club and make way for new recruits and our own youngsters.

Givet - I used to like his enthusiasm and commitment but after his 2 fall outs with Kean and his heart problems he dosn't seem to be the same player.
He has not been first choice for our last 3 managers - Berg, Bowyer & now Appleton and he must be on big wages. SELL

Dunn - Whilst he is a true Rovers fan, we must not let this overshadow the fact that he simply does not play enough games. He has made just 6 appearances out of 29 games this season. I have seen players recover from cruciate ligament injuries quicker that Dunn does from a calf strain. PAY UP HIS CONTRACT - RELEASE

Formica - he is not even a regular in the Championship. Kean/JA paid £3.5M for him. We would be lucky to get £1M for him. Neverthelss - SELL

Portuguese contingent - of the 6 players that Shebby signed from Portugal, only Fabio Nunes has showed that he has a chance of making it in England.
Most of the Portuguese players have not featured, especially since the colder weather started in November.
Gomes was a classy player and after a bright start to the season he is certainly not justifying the huge wages he is on. SELL / RELEASE

Etuhu - unless Appleton can find a way for him to play along side Murphy (I believe that he has already spoken to Roy Hodgson about this) then he should also go. He is another on big wages and has not impressed.
SELL

Robinson - how does a 33 year old professional sportsman become so overweight. Answer - lack of commitment. SELL

Olsson - over-rated as a full back. In my opinion, his best position is left side of midfield. If we can get over £4M for him - SELL

Dann - has certainly been a big disappointment since his arrival for around £6M. He makes too many mistakes. If we can get over £4M I would SELL.

Slew - I understand that he is now back at the club but he has hardly featured in the first team squad. Bought by Kean as one for the future! SELL

I am sure that I have missed quite a few out, but it shows the size of the task that Appleton now has.

Good luck. You are going to need it.
Very refreshing to read some sense on here rather than banal references to the disgraceful abuse of the owners on Saturday but back to the football.
The last two managers have had a succession of mediocre mercenaries foisted upon them by self serving agents and advisors. It will be far more difficult to get rid of them and whilst I would prefer to see them selling pies or clearing snow from the terraces we must accept that their greatest contribution will be in the warmth of their central Manchester penthouses and away from any genuine players who might actually WANT to play for the club.
While this is happening however he needs to find a brand new back four and If that means bringing in his scout from Portsmouth so be it. I will be happy to take him down to Witton Park where he will readily find four improvements.
Personally, I still maintain that Appleton is not the right man for the job and it is ironic that Blackpool could well use the wedge of compensation we paid them to secure a quality manager like Nigel Adkins.
The rushed appointment of Appleton was nothing more than point scoring between The Idiot Shaw and Shebby The Snake, neither of whom are contributing anything positive at Ewood.
[quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote: Well lets start with clearing out the deadwood at the club and make way for new recruits and our own youngsters. Givet - I used to like his enthusiasm and commitment but after his 2 fall outs with Kean and his heart problems he dosn't seem to be the same player. He has not been first choice for our last 3 managers - Berg, Bowyer & now Appleton and he must be on big wages. SELL Dunn - Whilst he is a true Rovers fan, we must not let this overshadow the fact that he simply does not play enough games. He has made just 6 appearances out of 29 games this season. I have seen players recover from cruciate ligament injuries quicker that Dunn does from a calf strain. PAY UP HIS CONTRACT - RELEASE Formica - he is not even a regular in the Championship. Kean/JA paid £3.5M for him. We would be lucky to get £1M for him. Neverthelss - SELL Portuguese contingent - of the 6 players that Shebby signed from Portugal, only Fabio Nunes has showed that he has a chance of making it in England. Most of the Portuguese players have not featured, especially since the colder weather started in November. Gomes was a classy player and after a bright start to the season he is certainly not justifying the huge wages he is on. SELL / RELEASE Etuhu - unless Appleton can find a way for him to play along side Murphy (I believe that he has already spoken to Roy Hodgson about this) then he should also go. He is another on big wages and has not impressed. SELL Robinson - how does a 33 year old professional sportsman become so overweight. Answer - lack of commitment. SELL Olsson - over-rated as a full back. In my opinion, his best position is left side of midfield. If we can get over £4M for him - SELL Dann - has certainly been a big disappointment since his arrival for around £6M. He makes too many mistakes. If we can get over £4M I would SELL. Slew - I understand that he is now back at the club but he has hardly featured in the first team squad. Bought by Kean as one for the future! SELL I am sure that I have missed quite a few out, but it shows the size of the task that Appleton now has. Good luck. You are going to need it.[/p][/quote]Very refreshing to read some sense on here rather than banal references to the disgraceful abuse of the owners on Saturday but back to the football. The last two managers have had a succession of mediocre mercenaries foisted upon them by self serving agents and advisors. It will be far more difficult to get rid of them and whilst I would prefer to see them selling pies or clearing snow from the terraces we must accept that their greatest contribution will be in the warmth of their central Manchester penthouses and away from any genuine players who might actually WANT to play for the club. While this is happening however he needs to find a brand new back four and If that means bringing in his scout from Portsmouth so be it. I will be happy to take him down to Witton Park where he will readily find four improvements. Personally, I still maintain that Appleton is not the right man for the job and it is ironic that Blackpool could well use the wedge of compensation we paid them to secure a quality manager like Nigel Adkins. The rushed appointment of Appleton was nothing more than point scoring between The Idiot Shaw and Shebby The Snake, neither of whom are contributing anything positive at Ewood. Angry From Accrington
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9:38am Mon 21 Jan 13

Rovers 1495 says...

RoversSwiss wrote:
If they don't say anything they are ignoring the fans, if they do say something it's a conspiracy!! Appleton has a very tough job with sub standard players, a job being made 100 times more difficult by the boo-boys. What he said is correct, although I cant share his optimism.
Sub-standard players ? It was Charlton ffs
[quote][p][bold]RoversSwiss[/bold] wrote: If they don't say anything they are ignoring the fans, if they do say something it's a conspiracy!! Appleton has a very tough job with sub standard players, a job being made 100 times more difficult by the boo-boys. What he said is correct, although I cant share his optimism.[/p][/quote]Sub-standard players ? It was Charlton ffs Rovers 1495
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9:40am Mon 21 Jan 13

leitchy says...

Do your talking on the pitch with results...that's all we're interested in !!
Do your talking on the pitch with results...that's all we're interested in !! leitchy
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9:49am Mon 21 Jan 13

1952 rover says...

kazluvsrovers wrote:
No sh!t Sherlock!!!!
Why be so arrogant.
[quote][p][bold]kazluvsrovers[/bold] wrote: No sh!t Sherlock!!!![/p][/quote]Why be so arrogant. 1952 rover
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9:51am Mon 21 Jan 13

1952 rover says...

A Darener wrote:
Yap! Yap! Yap! How about some action?
For God's sake he has only been here just over a week. Talk about Fickle
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Yap! Yap! Yap! How about some action?[/p][/quote]For God's sake he has only been here just over a week. Talk about Fickle 1952 rover
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9:52am Mon 21 Jan 13

1952 rover says...

J.C - Rishton wrote:
RoversSwiss wrote:
If they don't say anything they are ignoring the fans, if they do say something it's a conspiracy!! Appleton has a very tough job with sub standard players, a job being made 100 times more difficult by the boo-boys. What he said is correct, although I cant share his optimism.
Well what are supporters to do when they are treated so shamefully by the owners for so long??????????????

Instead of pathetically constantly blaming your long suffering fellow supporters why don't you (just for once) blame the people who are actually to blame - THE OWNERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - if they stoped running the club into the ground and stoped treating the supporters like dirt then supporters wouldnt do what human beings do in that situation - which is complain and moan.
So why call Appleton then ?
[quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversSwiss[/bold] wrote: If they don't say anything they are ignoring the fans, if they do say something it's a conspiracy!! Appleton has a very tough job with sub standard players, a job being made 100 times more difficult by the boo-boys. What he said is correct, although I cant share his optimism.[/p][/quote]Well what are supporters to do when they are treated so shamefully by the owners for so long?????????????? Instead of pathetically constantly blaming your long suffering fellow supporters why don't you (just for once) blame the people who are actually to blame - THE OWNERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - if they stoped running the club into the ground and stoped treating the supporters like dirt then supporters wouldnt do what human beings do in that situation - which is complain and moan.[/p][/quote]So why call Appleton then ? 1952 rover
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9:57am Mon 21 Jan 13

Dan11 says...

All the right noises coming from this man, at last. Alot of these players are not committed and are not putting in a shift, and we need to bring in players who are committed and will put in a shift. Especially when you go 2-1 down at home to a mediocre team like Charlton, and the players just give up and accept the loss. A disgrace when you are on upwards of £10k a week to £40k a week.
All the right noises coming from this man, at last. Alot of these players are not committed and are not putting in a shift, and we need to bring in players who are committed and will put in a shift. Especially when you go 2-1 down at home to a mediocre team like Charlton, and the players just give up and accept the loss. A disgrace when you are on upwards of £10k a week to £40k a week. Dan11
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9:59am Mon 21 Jan 13

mark anthony says...

check out youtube venkys getting pellted with snowballs or daily mirror online
check out youtube venkys getting pellted with snowballs or daily mirror online mark anthony
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10:02am Mon 21 Jan 13

paladin101 says...

Riverside 7 wrote:
Well lets start with clearing out the deadwood at the club and make way for new recruits and our own youngsters.

Givet - I used to like his enthusiasm and commitment but after his 2 fall outs with Kean and his heart problems he dosn't seem to be the same player.
He has not been first choice for our last 3 managers - Berg, Bowyer & now Appleton and he must be on big wages. SELL

Dunn - Whilst he is a true Rovers fan, we must not let this overshadow the fact that he simply does not play enough games. He has made just 6 appearances out of 29 games this season. I have seen players recover from cruciate ligament injuries quicker that Dunn does from a calf strain. PAY UP HIS CONTRACT - RELEASE

Formica - he is not even a regular in the Championship. Kean/JA paid £3.5M for him. We would be lucky to get £1M for him. Neverthelss - SELL

Portuguese contingent - of the 6 players that Shebby signed from Portugal, only Fabio Nunes has showed that he has a chance of making it in England.
Most of the Portuguese players have not featured, especially since the colder weather started in November.
Gomes was a classy player and after a bright start to the season he is certainly not justifying the huge wages he is on. SELL / RELEASE

Etuhu - unless Appleton can find a way for him to play along side Murphy (I believe that he has already spoken to Roy Hodgson about this) then he should also go. He is another on big wages and has not impressed.
SELL

Robinson - how does a 33 year old professional sportsman become so overweight. Answer - lack of commitment. SELL

Olsson - over-rated as a full back. In my opinion, his best position is left side of midfield. If we can get over £4M for him - SELL

Dann - has certainly been a big disappointment since his arrival for around £6M. He makes too many mistakes. If we can get over £4M I would SELL.

Slew - I understand that he is now back at the club but he has hardly featured in the first team squad. Bought by Kean as one for the future! SELL

I am sure that I have missed quite a few out, but it shows the size of the task that Appleton now has.

Good luck. You are going to need it.
And the list goes on and on. I mostly agree with you, except I think I would keep Olsson as a midfield player like you said. To make it easier: Who should we keep? In my opinion the only ones we really have to keep are Rhodes and Rochina. Maybe also Best, we should give him a chance since he hasn't featured at all this season. I think Rochina has potential to become a top class player, given that he gets proper coaching.
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MA has a lot of work to do.....a lot.
[quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote: Well lets start with clearing out the deadwood at the club and make way for new recruits and our own youngsters. Givet - I used to like his enthusiasm and commitment but after his 2 fall outs with Kean and his heart problems he dosn't seem to be the same player. He has not been first choice for our last 3 managers - Berg, Bowyer & now Appleton and he must be on big wages. SELL Dunn - Whilst he is a true Rovers fan, we must not let this overshadow the fact that he simply does not play enough games. He has made just 6 appearances out of 29 games this season. I have seen players recover from cruciate ligament injuries quicker that Dunn does from a calf strain. PAY UP HIS CONTRACT - RELEASE Formica - he is not even a regular in the Championship. Kean/JA paid £3.5M for him. We would be lucky to get £1M for him. Neverthelss - SELL Portuguese contingent - of the 6 players that Shebby signed from Portugal, only Fabio Nunes has showed that he has a chance of making it in England. Most of the Portuguese players have not featured, especially since the colder weather started in November. Gomes was a classy player and after a bright start to the season he is certainly not justifying the huge wages he is on. SELL / RELEASE Etuhu - unless Appleton can find a way for him to play along side Murphy (I believe that he has already spoken to Roy Hodgson about this) then he should also go. He is another on big wages and has not impressed. SELL Robinson - how does a 33 year old professional sportsman become so overweight. Answer - lack of commitment. SELL Olsson - over-rated as a full back. In my opinion, his best position is left side of midfield. If we can get over £4M for him - SELL Dann - has certainly been a big disappointment since his arrival for around £6M. He makes too many mistakes. If we can get over £4M I would SELL. Slew - I understand that he is now back at the club but he has hardly featured in the first team squad. Bought by Kean as one for the future! SELL I am sure that I have missed quite a few out, but it shows the size of the task that Appleton now has. Good luck. You are going to need it.[/p][/quote]And the list goes on and on. I mostly agree with you, except I think I would keep Olsson as a midfield player like you said. To make it easier: Who should we keep? In my opinion the only ones we really have to keep are Rhodes and Rochina. Maybe also Best, we should give him a chance since he hasn't featured at all this season. I think Rochina has potential to become a top class player, given that he gets proper coaching. * MA has a lot of work to do.....a lot. paladin101
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10:03am Mon 21 Jan 13

Will P says...

I hope one of these players is Dorrans, would make sense seeming he's in a position we need and he's available for transfer. We've tracking him ever since Allardyce took over so who knows. Saw him against Villa and he played very well, so maybe Steve Clarke will have different plans for him now.

However i'm glad that we finally have someone who's realised what he has to work with. He has inherited some good players to work with, I just believe, as was with Chelsea, that the old heads are unsettling the dressing room. Of course, because of the sheer confusion caused by superiors aka Shebby.

I still believe if they can get Kazim-Richards and Vuckevic to full fitness, back to near their best, we definitely have a chance. When those two have a good day, they are top top players.

I think you'll find we'll have a couple of defenders coming in soon! I really do hope that maybe, just maybe, the corner may start to turn sooner rather than later.
I hope one of these players is Dorrans, would make sense seeming he's in a position we need and he's available for transfer. We've tracking him ever since Allardyce took over so who knows. Saw him against Villa and he played very well, so maybe Steve Clarke will have different plans for him now. However i'm glad that we finally have someone who's realised what he has to work with. He has inherited some good players to work with, I just believe, as was with Chelsea, that the old heads are unsettling the dressing room. Of course, because of the sheer confusion caused by superiors aka Shebby. I still believe if they can get Kazim-Richards and Vuckevic to full fitness, back to near their best, we definitely have a chance. When those two have a good day, they are top top players. I think you'll find we'll have a couple of defenders coming in soon! I really do hope that maybe, just maybe, the corner may start to turn sooner rather than later. Will P
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10:15am Mon 21 Jan 13

1952 rover says...

mark anthony wrote:
check out youtube venkys getting pellted with snowballs or daily mirror online
Pathetic
[quote][p][bold]mark anthony[/bold] wrote: check out youtube venkys getting pellted with snowballs or daily mirror online[/p][/quote]Pathetic 1952 rover
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10:17am Mon 21 Jan 13

A Darener says...

Whilst not condoning the actions of fans who threw snowballs at the Venky's it is fully understandable. Let us hope that they realise they are on a hiding to nothing. They cannot get the majority of fans on side whatever they do. The only logical conclusion for the fiasco that is BRFC is to admit defeat, something they are now used to and put the club up for sale now, in the hope somebody will emerge to save the club. Not hopeful but unless they try things will only get worse.
Whilst not condoning the actions of fans who threw snowballs at the Venky's it is fully understandable. Let us hope that they realise they are on a hiding to nothing. They cannot get the majority of fans on side whatever they do. The only logical conclusion for the fiasco that is BRFC is to admit defeat, something they are now used to and put the club up for sale now, in the hope somebody will emerge to save the club. Not hopeful but unless they try things will only get worse. A Darener
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10:27am Mon 21 Jan 13

rovertillidie says...

Appleton has now seen his team first hand and witnessed what we have seen all this season....poor performances. Hopefully he has recognised that this squad ASSEMBLED BY KEAN (lets not forget that.... Berg only brought in Josh King.....is simply not good enough in all departments. Poor in defence, awful in centre midfield, no real width and our only bright spot Jordan Rhodes who feeds off scraps.

More to the point........

Can someone tell me how CKR goes from a man possessed and fully committed against Wolves to someone who appeared to lack any interest whatsoever especially in the first half. It seemed to me like he and the rest of the players had decided they were going to show the club they did not welcome the change in manager....this is totally unacceptable they are all paid excellent wages and the poor sods that turned up in poor weather to sit in the stands (including me) had to suffer what can only be described as a pathetic display. It makes my blood boil these really are a set of overpaid prima donnas and yes I will be there tomorrow but am expecting a lot more committment if not quality from them. We can only hope!!
Appleton has now seen his team first hand and witnessed what we have seen all this season....poor performances. Hopefully he has recognised that this squad ASSEMBLED BY KEAN (lets not forget that.... Berg only brought in Josh King.....is simply not good enough in all departments. Poor in defence, awful in centre midfield, no real width and our only bright spot Jordan Rhodes who feeds off scraps. More to the point........ Can someone tell me how CKR goes from a man possessed and fully committed against Wolves to someone who appeared to lack any interest whatsoever especially in the first half. It seemed to me like he and the rest of the players had decided they were going to show the club they did not welcome the change in manager....this is totally unacceptable they are all paid excellent wages and the poor sods that turned up in poor weather to sit in the stands (including me) had to suffer what can only be described as a pathetic display. It makes my blood boil these really are a set of overpaid prima donnas and yes I will be there tomorrow but am expecting a lot more committment if not quality from them. We can only hope!! rovertillidie
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10:28am Mon 21 Jan 13

Harwoodstblue says...

The reason they can not get the majority of fans onside is because they refuse to run the club properly.
The reason they can not get the majority of fans onside is because they refuse to run the club properly. Harwoodstblue
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10:31am Mon 21 Jan 13

bburnrover says...

I honestly dont think Appleton has had sufficient time to appraise the squad unless he has watched every dvd of our matches over the last 6 months.

I hope he does something about a creative midfielder as Formica and Rochina are not the answer we need two good wingers and a left back and cover at right back and definately a centre back to replace Dann who shouldbe sold if at all possible.
I honestly dont think Appleton has had sufficient time to appraise the squad unless he has watched every dvd of our matches over the last 6 months. I hope he does something about a creative midfielder as Formica and Rochina are not the answer we need two good wingers and a left back and cover at right back and definately a centre back to replace Dann who shouldbe sold if at all possible. bburnrover
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10:35am Mon 21 Jan 13

A Rover 45 years and over says...

Your talking the right talk Michael your action on staff is good with fitness coach and scout etc. Now you need to walk the walk. It sounds like Venky's are allowing us to have a normal set up again controlled by the Manager of which is a major change. We have got to give Venky's a chance now as they have listened to Derek Shaw and they hope MA will do a job for them, BRAG give them a break and stop supporting Shebby Singh. The booing has to stop they came to see for themselves and its now time to get behind the new set up and give them a chance.
Your talking the right talk Michael your action on staff is good with fitness coach and scout etc. Now you need to walk the walk. It sounds like Venky's are allowing us to have a normal set up again controlled by the Manager of which is a major change. We have got to give Venky's a chance now as they have listened to Derek Shaw and they hope MA will do a job for them, BRAG give them a break and stop supporting Shebby Singh. The booing has to stop they came to see for themselves and its now time to get behind the new set up and give them a chance. A Rover 45 years and over
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10:39am Mon 21 Jan 13

Wez_SHEBBYOUT says...

Riverside 7 wrote:
Well lets start with clearing out the deadwood at the club and make way for new recruits and our own youngsters.

Givet - I used to like his enthusiasm and commitment but after his 2 fall outs with Kean and his heart problems he dosn't seem to be the same player.
He has not been first choice for our last 3 managers - Berg, Bowyer & now Appleton and he must be on big wages. SELL

Dunn - Whilst he is a true Rovers fan, we must not let this overshadow the fact that he simply does not play enough games. He has made just 6 appearances out of 29 games this season. I have seen players recover from cruciate ligament injuries quicker that Dunn does from a calf strain. PAY UP HIS CONTRACT - RELEASE

Formica - he is not even a regular in the Championship. Kean/JA paid £3.5M for him. We would be lucky to get £1M for him. Neverthelss - SELL

Portuguese contingent - of the 6 players that Shebby signed from Portugal, only Fabio Nunes has showed that he has a chance of making it in England.
Most of the Portuguese players have not featured, especially since the colder weather started in November.
Gomes was a classy player and after a bright start to the season he is certainly not justifying the huge wages he is on. SELL / RELEASE

Etuhu - unless Appleton can find a way for him to play along side Murphy (I believe that he has already spoken to Roy Hodgson about this) then he should also go. He is another on big wages and has not impressed.
SELL

Robinson - how does a 33 year old professional sportsman become so overweight. Answer - lack of commitment. SELL

Olsson - over-rated as a full back. In my opinion, his best position is left side of midfield. If we can get over £4M for him - SELL

Dann - has certainly been a big disappointment since his arrival for around £6M. He makes too many mistakes. If we can get over £4M I would SELL.

Slew - I understand that he is now back at the club but he has hardly featured in the first team squad. Bought by Kean as one for the future! SELL

I am sure that I have missed quite a few out, but it shows the size of the task that Appleton now has.

Good luck. You are going to need it.
who are we going to get in at left back who is better than Olsson? if you think that Venkys will give us that full £4million to replace him then we need to give our heads a wobble that aint going to happen it will pay for there private jet for all 15 of them to fly home.

i believe Dunny isnt even injured that has something to do with Shebby Singh (suprise suprise)

Formica.... at least he passes the ball forward and looks like he wants to attack.

i agree with the Robbo and Scot Dann though Dann has possibly been our worst centre half ive seen play in blue and white
[quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote: Well lets start with clearing out the deadwood at the club and make way for new recruits and our own youngsters. Givet - I used to like his enthusiasm and commitment but after his 2 fall outs with Kean and his heart problems he dosn't seem to be the same player. He has not been first choice for our last 3 managers - Berg, Bowyer & now Appleton and he must be on big wages. SELL Dunn - Whilst he is a true Rovers fan, we must not let this overshadow the fact that he simply does not play enough games. He has made just 6 appearances out of 29 games this season. I have seen players recover from cruciate ligament injuries quicker that Dunn does from a calf strain. PAY UP HIS CONTRACT - RELEASE Formica - he is not even a regular in the Championship. Kean/JA paid £3.5M for him. We would be lucky to get £1M for him. Neverthelss - SELL Portuguese contingent - of the 6 players that Shebby signed from Portugal, only Fabio Nunes has showed that he has a chance of making it in England. Most of the Portuguese players have not featured, especially since the colder weather started in November. Gomes was a classy player and after a bright start to the season he is certainly not justifying the huge wages he is on. SELL / RELEASE Etuhu - unless Appleton can find a way for him to play along side Murphy (I believe that he has already spoken to Roy Hodgson about this) then he should also go. He is another on big wages and has not impressed. SELL Robinson - how does a 33 year old professional sportsman become so overweight. Answer - lack of commitment. SELL Olsson - over-rated as a full back. In my opinion, his best position is left side of midfield. If we can get over £4M for him - SELL Dann - has certainly been a big disappointment since his arrival for around £6M. He makes too many mistakes. If we can get over £4M I would SELL. Slew - I understand that he is now back at the club but he has hardly featured in the first team squad. Bought by Kean as one for the future! SELL I am sure that I have missed quite a few out, but it shows the size of the task that Appleton now has. Good luck. You are going to need it.[/p][/quote]who are we going to get in at left back who is better than Olsson? if you think that Venkys will give us that full £4million to replace him then we need to give our heads a wobble that aint going to happen it will pay for there private jet for all 15 of them to fly home. i believe Dunny isnt even injured that has something to do with Shebby Singh (suprise suprise) Formica.... at least he passes the ball forward and looks like he wants to attack. i agree with the Robbo and Scot Dann though Dann has possibly been our worst centre half ive seen play in blue and white Wez_SHEBBYOUT
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10:41am Mon 21 Jan 13

A Darener says...

A Rover 45 years and over wrote:
Your talking the right talk Michael your action on staff is good with fitness coach and scout etc. Now you need to walk the walk. It sounds like Venky's are allowing us to have a normal set up again controlled by the Manager of which is a major change. We have got to give Venky's a chance now as they have listened to Derek Shaw and they hope MA will do a job for them, BRAG give them a break and stop supporting Shebby Singh. The booing has to stop they came to see for themselves and its now time to get behind the new set up and give them a chance.
That is one of the problems...listening to Shaw! What the hell does he know about football? He wouldn't know a football if it hit him in the face.
[quote][p][bold]A Rover 45 years and over[/bold] wrote: Your talking the right talk Michael your action on staff is good with fitness coach and scout etc. Now you need to walk the walk. It sounds like Venky's are allowing us to have a normal set up again controlled by the Manager of which is a major change. We have got to give Venky's a chance now as they have listened to Derek Shaw and they hope MA will do a job for them, BRAG give them a break and stop supporting Shebby Singh. The booing has to stop they came to see for themselves and its now time to get behind the new set up and give them a chance.[/p][/quote]That is one of the problems...listening to Shaw! What the hell does he know about football? He wouldn't know a football if it hit him in the face. A Darener
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10:42am Mon 21 Jan 13

vicn1956 says...

At least he sees we need a fitness coach. We've known that for 2 years!
At least he sees we need a fitness coach. We've known that for 2 years! vicn1956
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10:42am Mon 21 Jan 13

zoomzam says...

Venky's have a habit of trying to mend things when nothing is broken.Appleton is a draw specialist! Rovers need to win matches!
Venky's have a habit of trying to mend things when nothing is broken.Appleton is a draw specialist! Rovers need to win matches! zoomzam
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10:43am Mon 21 Jan 13

Angry From Accrington says...

rovertillidie wrote:
Appleton has now seen his team first hand and witnessed what we have seen all this season....poor performances. Hopefully he has recognised that this squad ASSEMBLED BY KEAN (lets not forget that.... Berg only brought in Josh King.....is simply not good enough in all departments. Poor in defence, awful in centre midfield, no real width and our only bright spot Jordan Rhodes who feeds off scraps.

More to the point........

Can someone tell me how CKR goes from a man possessed and fully committed against Wolves to someone who appeared to lack any interest whatsoever especially in the first half. It seemed to me like he and the rest of the players had decided they were going to show the club they did not welcome the change in manager....this is totally unacceptable they are all paid excellent wages and the poor sods that turned up in poor weather to sit in the stands (including me) had to suffer what can only be described as a pathetic display. It makes my blood boil these really are a set of overpaid prima donnas and yes I will be there tomorrow but am expecting a lot more committment if not quality from them. We can only hope!!
Wrong! The squad was not assembled by Kean. To blame him for the players at this club is like blaming Ronald MacDonald for endorsement in Bugers! He had these players thrust upon him by self serving agents and advisors out to make an easy rupee out of well intentioned but naiive owners
[quote][p][bold]rovertillidie[/bold] wrote: Appleton has now seen his team first hand and witnessed what we have seen all this season....poor performances. Hopefully he has recognised that this squad ASSEMBLED BY KEAN (lets not forget that.... Berg only brought in Josh King.....is simply not good enough in all departments. Poor in defence, awful in centre midfield, no real width and our only bright spot Jordan Rhodes who feeds off scraps. More to the point........ Can someone tell me how CKR goes from a man possessed and fully committed against Wolves to someone who appeared to lack any interest whatsoever especially in the first half. It seemed to me like he and the rest of the players had decided they were going to show the club they did not welcome the change in manager....this is totally unacceptable they are all paid excellent wages and the poor sods that turned up in poor weather to sit in the stands (including me) had to suffer what can only be described as a pathetic display. It makes my blood boil these really are a set of overpaid prima donnas and yes I will be there tomorrow but am expecting a lot more committment if not quality from them. We can only hope!![/p][/quote]Wrong! The squad was not assembled by Kean. To blame him for the players at this club is like blaming Ronald MacDonald for endorsement in Bugers! He had these players thrust upon him by self serving agents and advisors out to make an easy rupee out of well intentioned but naiive owners Angry From Accrington
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10:43am Mon 21 Jan 13

Angry From Accrington says...

rovertillidie wrote:
Appleton has now seen his team first hand and witnessed what we have seen all this season....poor performances. Hopefully he has recognised that this squad ASSEMBLED BY KEAN (lets not forget that.... Berg only brought in Josh King.....is simply not good enough in all departments. Poor in defence, awful in centre midfield, no real width and our only bright spot Jordan Rhodes who feeds off scraps.

More to the point........

Can someone tell me how CKR goes from a man possessed and fully committed against Wolves to someone who appeared to lack any interest whatsoever especially in the first half. It seemed to me like he and the rest of the players had decided they were going to show the club they did not welcome the change in manager....this is totally unacceptable they are all paid excellent wages and the poor sods that turned up in poor weather to sit in the stands (including me) had to suffer what can only be described as a pathetic display. It makes my blood boil these really are a set of overpaid prima donnas and yes I will be there tomorrow but am expecting a lot more committment if not quality from them. We can only hope!!
Wrong! The squad was not assembled by Kean. To blame him for the players at this club is like blaming Ronald MacDonald for endorsement in Bugers! He had these players thrust upon him by self serving agents and advisors out to make an easy rupee out of well intentioned but naiive owners
[quote][p][bold]rovertillidie[/bold] wrote: Appleton has now seen his team first hand and witnessed what we have seen all this season....poor performances. Hopefully he has recognised that this squad ASSEMBLED BY KEAN (lets not forget that.... Berg only brought in Josh King.....is simply not good enough in all departments. Poor in defence, awful in centre midfield, no real width and our only bright spot Jordan Rhodes who feeds off scraps. More to the point........ Can someone tell me how CKR goes from a man possessed and fully committed against Wolves to someone who appeared to lack any interest whatsoever especially in the first half. It seemed to me like he and the rest of the players had decided they were going to show the club they did not welcome the change in manager....this is totally unacceptable they are all paid excellent wages and the poor sods that turned up in poor weather to sit in the stands (including me) had to suffer what can only be described as a pathetic display. It makes my blood boil these really are a set of overpaid prima donnas and yes I will be there tomorrow but am expecting a lot more committment if not quality from them. We can only hope!![/p][/quote]Wrong! The squad was not assembled by Kean. To blame him for the players at this club is like blaming Ronald MacDonald for endorsement in Bugers! He had these players thrust upon him by self serving agents and advisors out to make an easy rupee out of well intentioned but naiive owners Angry From Accrington
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10:43am Mon 21 Jan 13

A Darener says...

bburnrover wrote:
I honestly dont think Appleton has had sufficient time to appraise the squad unless he has watched every dvd of our matches over the last 6 months.

I hope he does something about a creative midfielder as Formica and Rochina are not the answer we need two good wingers and a left back and cover at right back and definately a centre back to replace Dann who shouldbe sold if at all possible.
He doesn't need to watch all the Rovers matches on DVD any one will show him what is required.
[quote][p][bold]bburnrover[/bold] wrote: I honestly dont think Appleton has had sufficient time to appraise the squad unless he has watched every dvd of our matches over the last 6 months. I hope he does something about a creative midfielder as Formica and Rochina are not the answer we need two good wingers and a left back and cover at right back and definately a centre back to replace Dann who shouldbe sold if at all possible.[/p][/quote]He doesn't need to watch all the Rovers matches on DVD any one will show him what is required. A Darener
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10:46am Mon 21 Jan 13

dangerous dave says...

Well were do you start after an abysmal performance such as this - you would have thought that the new Manager would capable enough of firing them up in terms of commitment but obviously not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As for the Venky's they got exactly what they deserved, turning up in a fleet of Rolls and rubbing our noses in the dirt - after the way we have been treat you dont have to be clairvoyant to understand that protests were on the cards - only two visits to Ewood by Mrs D's & Co and on both occasions left early not bothering to watch the crap served up by overated, overpaid so called professional footballers - no I didnt attend and wont whilst these idiots are in charge - I listened to Radio Lancs Commentary and felt sorry for those who had paid their hard earned cash to watch such a miserable performance by these prima dona' s who like the Owners/Directors of the Club treat the fans like idiots!!!
To say the Owners, Shaw, Agnew & Singh have ambition is a bloody joke - if we are so ambitious why have we gone for an unknown Manager and back room staff from a bankrupt Portsmouth who if were any good would have been snapped up by other clubs putting some money into the clubs coffers - no we have no real ambition we are just told that and when in the market place to buy we always go for second rate people - well they all deserve one another - unfortunately we have a set of losers running the club and they all deserve one another - OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM INCLUDING COAR AND HENDRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well were do you start after an abysmal performance such as this - you would have thought that the new Manager would capable enough of firing them up in terms of commitment but obviously not!!!!!!!!!!!!!! As for the Venky's they got exactly what they deserved, turning up in a fleet of Rolls and rubbing our noses in the dirt - after the way we have been treat you dont have to be clairvoyant to understand that protests were on the cards - only two visits to Ewood by Mrs D's & Co and on both occasions left early not bothering to watch the crap served up by overated, overpaid so called professional footballers - no I didnt attend and wont whilst these idiots are in charge - I listened to Radio Lancs Commentary and felt sorry for those who had paid their hard earned cash to watch such a miserable performance by these prima dona' s who like the Owners/Directors of the Club treat the fans like idiots!!! To say the Owners, Shaw, Agnew & Singh have ambition is a bloody joke - if we are so ambitious why have we gone for an unknown Manager and back room staff from a bankrupt Portsmouth who if were any good would have been snapped up by other clubs putting some money into the clubs coffers - no we have no real ambition we are just told that and when in the market place to buy we always go for second rate people - well they all deserve one another - unfortunately we have a set of losers running the club and they all deserve one another - OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM INCLUDING COAR AND HENDRY!!!!!!!!!!!!! dangerous dave
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10:53am Mon 21 Jan 13

A Darener says...

They have gone for Portmouth staff because they are experienced...not in football matters but in the ins and outs of avoiding bankruptcy.
They have gone for Portmouth staff because they are experienced...not in football matters but in the ins and outs of avoiding bankruptcy. A Darener
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10:55am Mon 21 Jan 13

Angry From Accrington says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
rovertillidie wrote:
Appleton has now seen his team first hand and witnessed what we have seen all this season....poor performances. Hopefully he has recognised that this squad ASSEMBLED BY KEAN (lets not forget that.... Berg only brought in Josh King.....is simply not good enough in all departments. Poor in defence, awful in centre midfield, no real width and our only bright spot Jordan Rhodes who feeds off scraps.

More to the point........

Can someone tell me how CKR goes from a man possessed and fully committed against Wolves to someone who appeared to lack any interest whatsoever especially in the first half. It seemed to me like he and the rest of the players had decided they were going to show the club they did not welcome the change in manager....this is totally unacceptable they are all paid excellent wages and the poor sods that turned up in poor weather to sit in the stands (including me) had to suffer what can only be described as a pathetic display. It makes my blood boil these really are a set of overpaid prima donnas and yes I will be there tomorrow but am expecting a lot more committment if not quality from them. We can only hope!!
Wrong! The squad was not assembled by Kean. To blame him for the players at this club is like blaming Ronald MacDonald for endorsement in Bugers! He had these players thrust upon him by self serving agents and advisors out to make an easy rupee out of well intentioned but naiive owners
That's horsemeat in burgers of course..........effi
ng predictive text!!
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rovertillidie[/bold] wrote: Appleton has now seen his team first hand and witnessed what we have seen all this season....poor performances. Hopefully he has recognised that this squad ASSEMBLED BY KEAN (lets not forget that.... Berg only brought in Josh King.....is simply not good enough in all departments. Poor in defence, awful in centre midfield, no real width and our only bright spot Jordan Rhodes who feeds off scraps. More to the point........ Can someone tell me how CKR goes from a man possessed and fully committed against Wolves to someone who appeared to lack any interest whatsoever especially in the first half. It seemed to me like he and the rest of the players had decided they were going to show the club they did not welcome the change in manager....this is totally unacceptable they are all paid excellent wages and the poor sods that turned up in poor weather to sit in the stands (including me) had to suffer what can only be described as a pathetic display. It makes my blood boil these really are a set of overpaid prima donnas and yes I will be there tomorrow but am expecting a lot more committment if not quality from them. We can only hope!![/p][/quote]Wrong! The squad was not assembled by Kean. To blame him for the players at this club is like blaming Ronald MacDonald for endorsement in Bugers! He had these players thrust upon him by self serving agents and advisors out to make an easy rupee out of well intentioned but naiive owners[/p][/quote]That's horsemeat in burgers of course..........effi ng predictive text!! Angry From Accrington
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10:55am Mon 21 Jan 13

A Darener says...

Instead of splashing their wealth in hiring Roll Royces perhaps they could invest that money in hiring somebody who actually knows something about running a football club. Mr Williams for example.
Instead of splashing their wealth in hiring Roll Royces perhaps they could invest that money in hiring somebody who actually knows something about running a football club. Mr Williams for example. A Darener
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11:03am Mon 21 Jan 13

Ronaldpetercooper says...

Patience please the guy has only been here 5 minutes. I suspect the players do not like him is because they recognise that at last we have someone in charge who will not tolerate lack of effort.
I believe Appleton will do the job but he is not a miracle worker and needs a little time and above all support.
Let us see who goes out and who comes in.
Patience please the guy has only been here 5 minutes. I suspect the players do not like him is because they recognise that at last we have someone in charge who will not tolerate lack of effort. I believe Appleton will do the job but he is not a miracle worker and needs a little time and above all support. Let us see who goes out and who comes in. Ronaldpetercooper
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11:06am Mon 21 Jan 13

MxMave says...

Riverside 7 wrote:
Well lets start with clearing out the deadwood at the club and make way for new recruits and our own youngsters.

Givet - I used to like his enthusiasm and commitment but after his 2 fall outs with Kean and his heart problems he dosn't seem to be the same player.
He has not been first choice for our last 3 managers - Berg, Bowyer & now Appleton and he must be on big wages. SELL

Dunn - Whilst he is a true Rovers fan, we must not let this overshadow the fact that he simply does not play enough games. He has made just 6 appearances out of 29 games this season. I have seen players recover from cruciate ligament injuries quicker that Dunn does from a calf strain. PAY UP HIS CONTRACT - RELEASE

Formica - he is not even a regular in the Championship. Kean/JA paid £3.5M for him. We would be lucky to get £1M for him. Neverthelss - SELL

Portuguese contingent - of the 6 players that Shebby signed from Portugal, only Fabio Nunes has showed that he has a chance of making it in England.
Most of the Portuguese players have not featured, especially since the colder weather started in November.
Gomes was a classy player and after a bright start to the season he is certainly not justifying the huge wages he is on. SELL / RELEASE

Etuhu - unless Appleton can find a way for him to play along side Murphy (I believe that he has already spoken to Roy Hodgson about this) then he should also go. He is another on big wages and has not impressed.
SELL

Robinson - how does a 33 year old professional sportsman become so overweight. Answer - lack of commitment. SELL

Olsson - over-rated as a full back. In my opinion, his best position is left side of midfield. If we can get over £4M for him - SELL

Dann - has certainly been a big disappointment since his arrival for around £6M. He makes too many mistakes. If we can get over £4M I would SELL.

Slew - I understand that he is now back at the club but he has hardly featured in the first team squad. Bought by Kean as one for the future! SELL

I am sure that I have missed quite a few out, but it shows the size of the task that Appleton now has.

Good luck. You are going to need it.
Id disagree with Dann, Ollson & Formica. I think without them 3 we would be in a worse position than we find ourselves currently.

Still don't understand why everyone gets on Dann's back when hes playing alongside a young scottish lad who's not upto scratch. In fact i'd go as far as to say Dann is one of the best players we have, the rest of the squad makes him look worse. If you put Dann into a good team, he'd thrive.
[quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote: Well lets start with clearing out the deadwood at the club and make way for new recruits and our own youngsters. Givet - I used to like his enthusiasm and commitment but after his 2 fall outs with Kean and his heart problems he dosn't seem to be the same player. He has not been first choice for our last 3 managers - Berg, Bowyer & now Appleton and he must be on big wages. SELL Dunn - Whilst he is a true Rovers fan, we must not let this overshadow the fact that he simply does not play enough games. He has made just 6 appearances out of 29 games this season. I have seen players recover from cruciate ligament injuries quicker that Dunn does from a calf strain. PAY UP HIS CONTRACT - RELEASE Formica - he is not even a regular in the Championship. Kean/JA paid £3.5M for him. We would be lucky to get £1M for him. Neverthelss - SELL Portuguese contingent - of the 6 players that Shebby signed from Portugal, only Fabio Nunes has showed that he has a chance of making it in England. Most of the Portuguese players have not featured, especially since the colder weather started in November. Gomes was a classy player and after a bright start to the season he is certainly not justifying the huge wages he is on. SELL / RELEASE Etuhu - unless Appleton can find a way for him to play along side Murphy (I believe that he has already spoken to Roy Hodgson about this) then he should also go. He is another on big wages and has not impressed. SELL Robinson - how does a 33 year old professional sportsman become so overweight. Answer - lack of commitment. SELL Olsson - over-rated as a full back. In my opinion, his best position is left side of midfield. If we can get over £4M for him - SELL Dann - has certainly been a big disappointment since his arrival for around £6M. He makes too many mistakes. If we can get over £4M I would SELL. Slew - I understand that he is now back at the club but he has hardly featured in the first team squad. Bought by Kean as one for the future! SELL I am sure that I have missed quite a few out, but it shows the size of the task that Appleton now has. Good luck. You are going to need it.[/p][/quote]Id disagree with Dann, Ollson & Formica. I think without them 3 we would be in a worse position than we find ourselves currently. Still don't understand why everyone gets on Dann's back when hes playing alongside a young scottish lad who's not upto scratch. In fact i'd go as far as to say Dann is one of the best players we have, the rest of the squad makes him look worse. If you put Dann into a good team, he'd thrive. MxMave
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11:13am Mon 21 Jan 13

A Darener says...

"If you put Dann in a good team he'd thrive". Obviously! The rest would carry him!
"If you put Dann in a good team he'd thrive". Obviously! The rest would carry him! A Darener
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11:14am Mon 21 Jan 13

benal13 says...

J.C - Rishton wrote:
RoversSwiss wrote:
If they don't say anything they are ignoring the fans, if they do say something it's a conspiracy!! Appleton has a very tough job with sub standard players, a job being made 100 times more difficult by the boo-boys. What he said is correct, although I cant share his optimism.
Well what are supporters to do when they are treated so shamefully by the owners for so long??????????????

Instead of pathetically constantly blaming your long suffering fellow supporters why don't you (just for once) blame the people who are actually to blame - THE OWNERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - if they stoped running the club into the ground and stoped treating the supporters like dirt then supporters wouldnt do what human beings do in that situation - which is complain and moan.
i dont think the swiss guy will understand hes one of the venkys brain washed brigad!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversSwiss[/bold] wrote: If they don't say anything they are ignoring the fans, if they do say something it's a conspiracy!! Appleton has a very tough job with sub standard players, a job being made 100 times more difficult by the boo-boys. What he said is correct, although I cant share his optimism.[/p][/quote]Well what are supporters to do when they are treated so shamefully by the owners for so long?????????????? Instead of pathetically constantly blaming your long suffering fellow supporters why don't you (just for once) blame the people who are actually to blame - THE OWNERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - if they stoped running the club into the ground and stoped treating the supporters like dirt then supporters wouldnt do what human beings do in that situation - which is complain and moan.[/p][/quote]i dont think the swiss guy will understand hes one of the venkys brain washed brigad!!!!!! benal13
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11:21am Mon 21 Jan 13

Road Runner Road Runner says...

Researching our history, and handed this on Saturday by a long time fellow Rover I put forth this extract for your eye's only:

The first provincial team to win the Association Cup, in 1883, beating the Old Etonians 2 - 1, after an extra half hour, Mr. T. Hacking, who kept goal for them in that celebrated contest, again donned the jersey at Ewood Park in March, 1892, giving an exhibition that was a revelation to those who had not previously seen him in action.
At one time football partisans whose real zeal outran their discretion were in the habit of relieving their feelings bu pelting opponents with stones and mud. It was great sport while it lasted, though those foolish enough to indulge in it had scant regard for the trouble it might cause. For example, when Burnley were here in December, 1892, they complained of the liveliness of their journey to the railway station. They had lost an exciting match by 2-0. In the last few minutes the referee had found it necessary to order a player on each side to leave the field. Rightly or wrongly, a section of the crowd believed that the visitors were to blame for what had happened. As a sequel, Burnley alleged that they were bombarded with missiles as they drove in a wagonette along Bolton Road. Jack Hillman, their goalkeeper was reported to have been struck in the face by a stone, and the players generally were said to have had narrow escapes from injury.
When the matter was investigated by a commission of the Football Association the Rovers club put in affidavits to the effect that there was no stone-throwing within at least 200 yards of Ewood Park, and as far as they knew nothing of the kind took place at that distance. The club were honorably acquitted, the commission dismissing the appeal and holding that no blame attached to the Rovers committee. They suggested, however, that it would have been more prudent if protection had been provided for the Burnley team until they reached the town. As the complainants had asked not for a penalty, but for a ruling on the subject, they were equally satisfied with the decision.

Arte et labore
Researching our history, and handed this on Saturday by a long time fellow Rover I put forth this extract for your eye's only: The first provincial team to win the Association Cup, in 1883, beating the Old Etonians 2 - 1, after an extra half hour, Mr. T. Hacking, who kept goal for them in that celebrated contest, again donned the jersey at Ewood Park in March, 1892, giving an exhibition that was a revelation to those who had not previously seen him in action. At one time football partisans whose real zeal outran their discretion were in the habit of relieving their feelings bu pelting opponents with stones and mud. It was great sport while it lasted, though those foolish enough to indulge in it had scant regard for the trouble it might cause. For example, when Burnley were here in December, 1892, they complained of the liveliness of their journey to the railway station. They had lost an exciting match by 2-0. In the last few minutes the referee had found it necessary to order a player on each side to leave the field. Rightly or wrongly, a section of the crowd believed that the visitors were to blame for what had happened. As a sequel, Burnley alleged that they were bombarded with missiles as they drove in a wagonette along Bolton Road. Jack Hillman, their goalkeeper was reported to have been struck in the face by a stone, and the players generally were said to have had narrow escapes from injury. When the matter was investigated by a commission of the Football Association the Rovers club put in affidavits to the effect that there was no stone-throwing within at least 200 yards of Ewood Park, and as far as they knew nothing of the kind took place at that distance. The club were honorably acquitted, the commission dismissing the appeal and holding that no blame attached to the Rovers committee. They suggested, however, that it would have been more prudent if protection had been provided for the Burnley team until they reached the town. As the complainants had asked not for a penalty, but for a ruling on the subject, they were equally satisfied with the decision. Arte et labore Road Runner Road Runner
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11:22am Mon 21 Jan 13

J.C - Rishton says...

1952 rover wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
RoversSwiss wrote:
If they don't say anything they are ignoring the fans, if they do say something it's a conspiracy!! Appleton has a very tough job with sub standard players, a job being made 100 times more difficult by the boo-boys. What he said is correct, although I cant share his optimism.
Well what are supporters to do when they are treated so shamefully by the owners for so long??????????????

Instead of pathetically constantly blaming your long suffering fellow supporters why don't you (just for once) blame the people who are actually to blame - THE OWNERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - if they stoped running the club into the ground and stoped treating the supporters like dirt then supporters wouldnt do what human beings do in that situation - which is complain and moan.
So why call Appleton then ?
I don't think I did call Appleton - read what I said again, I never mentioned his name
[quote][p][bold]1952 rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversSwiss[/bold] wrote: If they don't say anything they are ignoring the fans, if they do say something it's a conspiracy!! Appleton has a very tough job with sub standard players, a job being made 100 times more difficult by the boo-boys. What he said is correct, although I cant share his optimism.[/p][/quote]Well what are supporters to do when they are treated so shamefully by the owners for so long?????????????? Instead of pathetically constantly blaming your long suffering fellow supporters why don't you (just for once) blame the people who are actually to blame - THE OWNERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - if they stoped running the club into the ground and stoped treating the supporters like dirt then supporters wouldnt do what human beings do in that situation - which is complain and moan.[/p][/quote]So why call Appleton then ?[/p][/quote]I don't think I did call Appleton - read what I said again, I never mentioned his name J.C - Rishton
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11:28am Mon 21 Jan 13

Angry From Accrington says...

vicn1956 wrote:
At least he sees we need a fitness coach. We've known that for 2 years!
then a passing coach, and a receiving coach, and a tackling coach, and a shooting coach, and a heading coach...........
.Colin Hendry can't do it all on his own you know!
[quote][p][bold]vicn1956[/bold] wrote: At least he sees we need a fitness coach. We've known that for 2 years![/p][/quote]then a passing coach, and a receiving coach, and a tackling coach, and a shooting coach, and a heading coach........... .Colin Hendry can't do it all on his own you know! Angry From Accrington
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11:28am Mon 21 Jan 13

Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder says...

A Darener wrote:
Whilst not condoning the actions of fans who threw snowballs at the Venky's it is fully understandable. Let us hope that they realise they are on a hiding to nothing. They cannot get the majority of fans on side whatever they do. The only logical conclusion for the fiasco that is BRFC is to admit defeat, something they are now used to and put the club up for sale now, in the hope somebody will emerge to save the club. Not hopeful but unless they try things will only get worse.
Nah its not acceptable, hang your heads in shame for a pathetic boot boy baboon showing, disgusting dog vomits aren't gonna get away with it that easy.
If you think baracking women and children with disgusting language is fine then your no better than the ones who did it. I hope the police are involved, they must be able to charge them all with public order offences.
That would please me greatly.
Can someone make this happen
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Whilst not condoning the actions of fans who threw snowballs at the Venky's it is fully understandable. Let us hope that they realise they are on a hiding to nothing. They cannot get the majority of fans on side whatever they do. The only logical conclusion for the fiasco that is BRFC is to admit defeat, something they are now used to and put the club up for sale now, in the hope somebody will emerge to save the club. Not hopeful but unless they try things will only get worse.[/p][/quote]Nah its not acceptable, hang your heads in shame for a pathetic boot boy baboon showing, disgusting dog vomits aren't gonna get away with it that easy. If you think baracking women and children with disgusting language is fine then your no better than the ones who did it. I hope the police are involved, they must be able to charge them all with public order offences. That would please me greatly. Can someone make this happen Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder
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11:29am Mon 21 Jan 13

Harwoodstblue says...

A Darener wrote:
Instead of splashing their wealth in hiring Roll Royces perhaps they could invest that money in hiring somebody who actually knows something about running a football club. Mr Williams for example.
~The Rolls Royces probably cost them nothing....The whole trip probably went down on their expense account...... costing all of us.
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Instead of splashing their wealth in hiring Roll Royces perhaps they could invest that money in hiring somebody who actually knows something about running a football club. Mr Williams for example.[/p][/quote]~The Rolls Royces probably cost them nothing....The whole trip probably went down on their expense account...... costing all of us. Harwoodstblue
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11:34am Mon 21 Jan 13

LittleRonnieHildersley says...

J.C - Rishton wrote:
1952 rover wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
RoversSwiss wrote:
If they don't say anything they are ignoring the fans, if they do say something it's a conspiracy!! Appleton has a very tough job with sub standard players, a job being made 100 times more difficult by the boo-boys. What he said is correct, although I cant share his optimism.
Well what are supporters to do when they are treated so shamefully by the owners for so long??????????????

Instead of pathetically constantly blaming your long suffering fellow supporters why don't you (just for once) blame the people who are actually to blame - THE OWNERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - if they stoped running the club into the ground and stoped treating the supporters like dirt then supporters wouldnt do what human beings do in that situation - which is complain and moan.
So why call Appleton then ?
I don't think I did call Appleton - read what I said again, I never mentioned his name
For me - Venkys dragging the club down and so are some of the supporters! I wouldn't to play in that atmosphere.....see also Newcastle at the weekend, fans started moaning - team lost.

The problem is that a lot of those moaning can't offer a constructive alternative - other than moaning, getting on the players backs etc A good solution would be Venky's giving a stake of the club to the Trust - a set up a bit like Swansea. The Trust would never be able to afford to run the club in prem or championship under curent models. Unless there is a sugar Daddy amongst the moaners then I don't se a lot of alternaives and I don't think booing, shouting abuse, chucking snowballs etc is going to help anyone.
[quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1952 rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversSwiss[/bold] wrote: If they don't say anything they are ignoring the fans, if they do say something it's a conspiracy!! Appleton has a very tough job with sub standard players, a job being made 100 times more difficult by the boo-boys. What he said is correct, although I cant share his optimism.[/p][/quote]Well what are supporters to do when they are treated so shamefully by the owners for so long?????????????? Instead of pathetically constantly blaming your long suffering fellow supporters why don't you (just for once) blame the people who are actually to blame - THE OWNERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - if they stoped running the club into the ground and stoped treating the supporters like dirt then supporters wouldnt do what human beings do in that situation - which is complain and moan.[/p][/quote]So why call Appleton then ?[/p][/quote]I don't think I did call Appleton - read what I said again, I never mentioned his name[/p][/quote]For me - Venkys dragging the club down and so are some of the supporters! I wouldn't to play in that atmosphere.....see also Newcastle at the weekend, fans started moaning - team lost. The problem is that a lot of those moaning can't offer a constructive alternative - other than moaning, getting on the players backs etc A good solution would be Venky's giving a stake of the club to the Trust - a set up a bit like Swansea. The Trust would never be able to afford to run the club in prem or championship under curent models. Unless there is a sugar Daddy amongst the moaners then I don't se a lot of alternaives and I don't think booing, shouting abuse, chucking snowballs etc is going to help anyone. LittleRonnieHildersley
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11:36am Mon 21 Jan 13

fanny_tickler. says...

What a joke of a club.

Classless supporters pelting the owners with snowballs.. Venky's are keeping you afloat, they have taken you on when no one else wanted you and the Walker Trust wanted shut asap, they have taken on your debt, invested £8M in a single player, manage a large wage bill, and have to put up with the worst set of supporters in the country demanding the sacking of anyone and everyone on a daily basis. If Venky's were to pull out, which wealthy investor is waiting in the wings ready to take on the shambles that is Blackburn Rovers? You may hate the Venky's but you're also completely dependent upon them.
What a joke of a club. Classless supporters pelting the owners with snowballs.. Venky's are keeping you afloat, they have taken you on when no one else wanted you and the Walker Trust wanted shut asap, they have taken on your debt, invested £8M in a single player, manage a large wage bill, and have to put up with the worst set of supporters in the country demanding the sacking of anyone and everyone on a daily basis. If Venky's were to pull out, which wealthy investor is waiting in the wings ready to take on the shambles that is Blackburn Rovers? You may hate the Venky's but you're also completely dependent upon them. fanny_tickler.
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11:40am Mon 21 Jan 13

Lancs - pensioner says...

dangerous dave wrote:
Well were do you start after an abysmal performance such as this - you would have thought that the new Manager would capable enough of firing them up in terms of commitment but obviously not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As for the Venky's they got exactly what they deserved, turning up in a fleet of Rolls and rubbing our noses in the dirt - after the way we have been treat you dont have to be clairvoyant to understand that protests were on the cards - only two visits to Ewood by Mrs D's & Co and on both occasions left early not bothering to watch the crap served up by overated, overpaid so called professional footballers - no I didnt attend and wont whilst these idiots are in charge - I listened to Radio Lancs Commentary and felt sorry for those who had paid their hard earned cash to watch such a miserable performance by these prima dona' s who like the Owners/Directors of the Club treat the fans like idiots!!!
To say the Owners, Shaw, Agnew & Singh have ambition is a bloody joke - if we are so ambitious why have we gone for an unknown Manager and back room staff from a bankrupt Portsmouth who if were any good would have been snapped up by other clubs putting some money into the clubs coffers - no we have no real ambition we are just told that and when in the market place to buy we always go for second rate people - well they all deserve one another - unfortunately we have a set of losers running the club and they all deserve one another - OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM INCLUDING COAR AND HENDRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hi DD
As another one who no longer attends after 40 years I could not have put it better.
Have you also noticed more and more of the bloggers obviously come direct from BRFCs office,
Its not the moaning hard paying fan who is to blame for the last two years its stuck up OWNERS
The club is riddled with corruption from top to bottom IMO.

Venkys out

Hendry pension robber out

Shebby out
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: Well were do you start after an abysmal performance such as this - you would have thought that the new Manager would capable enough of firing them up in terms of commitment but obviously not!!!!!!!!!!!!!! As for the Venky's they got exactly what they deserved, turning up in a fleet of Rolls and rubbing our noses in the dirt - after the way we have been treat you dont have to be clairvoyant to understand that protests were on the cards - only two visits to Ewood by Mrs D's & Co and on both occasions left early not bothering to watch the crap served up by overated, overpaid so called professional footballers - no I didnt attend and wont whilst these idiots are in charge - I listened to Radio Lancs Commentary and felt sorry for those who had paid their hard earned cash to watch such a miserable performance by these prima dona' s who like the Owners/Directors of the Club treat the fans like idiots!!! To say the Owners, Shaw, Agnew & Singh have ambition is a bloody joke - if we are so ambitious why have we gone for an unknown Manager and back room staff from a bankrupt Portsmouth who if were any good would have been snapped up by other clubs putting some money into the clubs coffers - no we have no real ambition we are just told that and when in the market place to buy we always go for second rate people - well they all deserve one another - unfortunately we have a set of losers running the club and they all deserve one another - OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM INCLUDING COAR AND HENDRY!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Hi DD As another one who no longer attends after 40 years I could not have put it better. Have you also noticed more and more of the bloggers obviously come direct from BRFCs office, Its not the moaning hard paying fan who is to blame for the last two years its stuck up OWNERS The club is riddled with corruption from top to bottom IMO. Venkys out Hendry pension robber out Shebby out Lancs - pensioner
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11:40am Mon 21 Jan 13

mike55 says...

I have to say that looking through our squad today we have so much deadwood on our books it really does beg the question who is running the club.
What is the point of Amine Linganzi? Robbie Cotton? David Dunn (always injured)? Edinho junior? ? Paolo Jorge? David Goodwillie? Jordan Slew? Markus Olsson? Diogo Rosado? If they are not playing (even for the reserves in some cases) what is the reason for retaining them.
Yes, youngsters like Tim Payne,Hugo Fernandez,Ryan Edwards etc do need to be retained and developed for the future but getting rid of the above would release funds for some ready made replacements who could readily step up to the plate. I cannot believe there are not some Championship players not getting the playing time they want and even some Premier League players who would jump at the thought of playing first team football for Rovers. Even loanees( like Todd Kane) should be considered.
And I haven't even mentioned our first team. I think we all realise a number of them are either uncommitted,convenie
ntly injured or just plain not good enough. And all on wages that all us supporters would bust a gut to achieve.
Time to wield the axe Mr Appleton and clear the boards. We are going nowhere this season as it is so there is nothing to lose.
I have to say that looking through our squad today we have so much deadwood on our books it really does beg the question who is running the club. What is the point of Amine Linganzi? Robbie Cotton? David Dunn (always injured)? Edinho junior? ? Paolo Jorge? David Goodwillie? Jordan Slew? Markus Olsson? Diogo Rosado? If they are not playing (even for the reserves in some cases) what is the reason for retaining them. Yes, youngsters like Tim Payne,Hugo Fernandez,Ryan Edwards etc do need to be retained and developed for the future but getting rid of the above would release funds for some ready made replacements who could readily step up to the plate. I cannot believe there are not some Championship players not getting the playing time they want and even some Premier League players who would jump at the thought of playing first team football for Rovers. Even loanees( like Todd Kane) should be considered. And I haven't even mentioned our first team. I think we all realise a number of them are either uncommitted,convenie ntly injured or just plain not good enough. And all on wages that all us supporters would bust a gut to achieve. Time to wield the axe Mr Appleton and clear the boards. We are going nowhere this season as it is so there is nothing to lose. mike55
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11:41am Mon 21 Jan 13

BRFC75 says...

A Darener wrote:
Instead of splashing their wealth in hiring Roll Royces perhaps they could invest that money in hiring somebody who actually knows something about running a football club. Mr Williams for example.
Don`t think you noticed the Registration plate RAJAH of the Venky`s Rolls , Iwould doubt very much if a car hire company in Britain would have a Rolls with that plate on it ,and by the way RAJAH means a KING in India !!
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Instead of splashing their wealth in hiring Roll Royces perhaps they could invest that money in hiring somebody who actually knows something about running a football club. Mr Williams for example.[/p][/quote]Don`t think you noticed the Registration plate RAJAH of the Venky`s Rolls , Iwould doubt very much if a car hire company in Britain would have a Rolls with that plate on it ,and by the way RAJAH means a KING in India !! BRFC75
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11:44am Mon 21 Jan 13

Lancs - pensioner says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
vicn1956 wrote:
At least he sees we need a fitness coach. We've known that for 2 years!
then a passing coach, and a receiving coach, and a tackling coach, and a shooting coach, and a heading coach...........
.Colin Hendry can't do it all on his own you know!
Why not he is on £8000 a week!
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vicn1956[/bold] wrote: At least he sees we need a fitness coach. We've known that for 2 years![/p][/quote]then a passing coach, and a receiving coach, and a tackling coach, and a shooting coach, and a heading coach........... .Colin Hendry can't do it all on his own you know![/p][/quote]Why not he is on £8000 a week! Lancs - pensioner
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11:49am Mon 21 Jan 13

Harwoodstblue says...

LittleRonnieHildersl
ey
wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
1952 rover wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
RoversSwiss wrote:
If they don't say anything they are ignoring the fans, if they do say something it's a conspiracy!! Appleton has a very tough job with sub standard players, a job being made 100 times more difficult by the boo-boys. What he said is correct, although I cant share his optimism.
Well what are supporters to do when they are treated so shamefully by the owners for so long??????????????

Instead of pathetically constantly blaming your long suffering fellow supporters why don't you (just for once) blame the people who are actually to blame - THE OWNERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - if they stoped running the club into the ground and stoped treating the supporters like dirt then supporters wouldnt do what human beings do in that situation - which is complain and moan.
So why call Appleton then ?
I don't think I did call Appleton - read what I said again, I never mentioned his name
For me - Venkys dragging the club down and so are some of the supporters! I wouldn't to play in that atmosphere.....see also Newcastle at the weekend, fans started moaning - team lost.

The problem is that a lot of those moaning can't offer a constructive alternative - other than moaning, getting on the players backs etc A good solution would be Venky's giving a stake of the club to the Trust - a set up a bit like Swansea. The Trust would never be able to afford to run the club in prem or championship under curent models. Unless there is a sugar Daddy amongst the moaners then I don't se a lot of alternaives and I don't think booing, shouting abuse, chucking snowballs etc is going to help anyone.
I agree a sensible solution would be for Venkys to give up a stake of the club to the fans. It works at Swansea but up to now Venkys have shown that they 'don't do sensible.' It doesn't seem to be a word in their vocabulary.
[quote][p][bold]LittleRonnieHildersl ey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1952 rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversSwiss[/bold] wrote: If they don't say anything they are ignoring the fans, if they do say something it's a conspiracy!! Appleton has a very tough job with sub standard players, a job being made 100 times more difficult by the boo-boys. What he said is correct, although I cant share his optimism.[/p][/quote]Well what are supporters to do when they are treated so shamefully by the owners for so long?????????????? Instead of pathetically constantly blaming your long suffering fellow supporters why don't you (just for once) blame the people who are actually to blame - THE OWNERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - if they stoped running the club into the ground and stoped treating the supporters like dirt then supporters wouldnt do what human beings do in that situation - which is complain and moan.[/p][/quote]So why call Appleton then ?[/p][/quote]I don't think I did call Appleton - read what I said again, I never mentioned his name[/p][/quote]For me - Venkys dragging the club down and so are some of the supporters! I wouldn't to play in that atmosphere.....see also Newcastle at the weekend, fans started moaning - team lost. The problem is that a lot of those moaning can't offer a constructive alternative - other than moaning, getting on the players backs etc A good solution would be Venky's giving a stake of the club to the Trust - a set up a bit like Swansea. The Trust would never be able to afford to run the club in prem or championship under curent models. Unless there is a sugar Daddy amongst the moaners then I don't se a lot of alternaives and I don't think booing, shouting abuse, chucking snowballs etc is going to help anyone.[/p][/quote]I agree a sensible solution would be for Venkys to give up a stake of the club to the fans. It works at Swansea but up to now Venkys have shown that they 'don't do sensible.' It doesn't seem to be a word in their vocabulary. Harwoodstblue
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11:52am Mon 21 Jan 13

77'sss says...

J.C - Rishton wrote:
RoversSwiss wrote:
If they don't say anything they are ignoring the fans, if they do say something it's a conspiracy!! Appleton has a very tough job with sub standard players, a job being made 100 times more difficult by the boo-boys. What he said is correct, although I cant share his optimism.
Well what are supporters to do when they are treated so shamefully by the owners for so long??????????????

Instead of pathetically constantly blaming your long suffering fellow supporters why don't you (just for once) blame the people who are actually to blame - THE OWNERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - if they stoped running the club into the ground and stoped treating the supporters like dirt then supporters wouldnt do what human beings do in that situation - which is complain and moan.
Blame the owners ???
Try Steve Kean anderson and the players
As of yet I can't remember any of the venkies actually getting a role on the subs bench, or did I see rao playing left side of midfield earlier in the season
Yes I know they are to blame, but if they had left the everyday running to Sam and John Williams & co and added funds as they where needed, we wouldn't be in this mess
They weren't the ones who wound up Roberts samba Nelson and the others that was down to Kean and his beloved sidekick
[quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversSwiss[/bold] wrote: If they don't say anything they are ignoring the fans, if they do say something it's a conspiracy!! Appleton has a very tough job with sub standard players, a job being made 100 times more difficult by the boo-boys. What he said is correct, although I cant share his optimism.[/p][/quote]Well what are supporters to do when they are treated so shamefully by the owners for so long?????????????? Instead of pathetically constantly blaming your long suffering fellow supporters why don't you (just for once) blame the people who are actually to blame - THE OWNERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - if they stoped running the club into the ground and stoped treating the supporters like dirt then supporters wouldnt do what human beings do in that situation - which is complain and moan.[/p][/quote]Blame the owners ??? Try Steve Kean anderson and the players As of yet I can't remember any of the venkies actually getting a role on the subs bench, or did I see rao playing left side of midfield earlier in the season Yes I know they are to blame, but if they had left the everyday running to Sam and John Williams & co and added funds as they where needed, we wouldn't be in this mess They weren't the ones who wound up Roberts samba Nelson and the others that was down to Kean and his beloved sidekick 77'sss
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11:52am Mon 21 Jan 13

Harwoodstblue says...

Lancs - pensioner wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Well were do you start after an abysmal performance such as this - you would have thought that the new Manager would capable enough of firing them up in terms of commitment but obviously not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As for the Venky's they got exactly what they deserved, turning up in a fleet of Rolls and rubbing our noses in the dirt - after the way we have been treat you dont have to be clairvoyant to understand that protests were on the cards - only two visits to Ewood by Mrs D's & Co and on both occasions left early not bothering to watch the crap served up by overated, overpaid so called professional footballers - no I didnt attend and wont whilst these idiots are in charge - I listened to Radio Lancs Commentary and felt sorry for those who had paid their hard earned cash to watch such a miserable performance by these prima dona' s who like the Owners/Directors of the Club treat the fans like idiots!!!
To say the Owners, Shaw, Agnew & Singh have ambition is a bloody joke - if we are so ambitious why have we gone for an unknown Manager and back room staff from a bankrupt Portsmouth who if were any good would have been snapped up by other clubs putting some money into the clubs coffers - no we have no real ambition we are just told that and when in the market place to buy we always go for second rate people - well they all deserve one another - unfortunately we have a set of losers running the club and they all deserve one another - OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM INCLUDING COAR AND HENDRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hi DD
As another one who no longer attends after 40 years I could not have put it better.
Have you also noticed more and more of the bloggers obviously come direct from BRFCs office,
Its not the moaning hard paying fan who is to blame for the last two years its stuck up OWNERS
The club is riddled with corruption from top to bottom IMO.

Venkys out

Hendry pension robber out

Shebby out
Corruption is not only accepted in India, It's expected. Don't believe me, just Google 'Corruption in India'
[quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: Well were do you start after an abysmal performance such as this - you would have thought that the new Manager would capable enough of firing them up in terms of commitment but obviously not!!!!!!!!!!!!!! As for the Venky's they got exactly what they deserved, turning up in a fleet of Rolls and rubbing our noses in the dirt - after the way we have been treat you dont have to be clairvoyant to understand that protests were on the cards - only two visits to Ewood by Mrs D's & Co and on both occasions left early not bothering to watch the crap served up by overated, overpaid so called professional footballers - no I didnt attend and wont whilst these idiots are in charge - I listened to Radio Lancs Commentary and felt sorry for those who had paid their hard earned cash to watch such a miserable performance by these prima dona' s who like the Owners/Directors of the Club treat the fans like idiots!!! To say the Owners, Shaw, Agnew & Singh have ambition is a bloody joke - if we are so ambitious why have we gone for an unknown Manager and back room staff from a bankrupt Portsmouth who if were any good would have been snapped up by other clubs putting some money into the clubs coffers - no we have no real ambition we are just told that and when in the market place to buy we always go for second rate people - well they all deserve one another - unfortunately we have a set of losers running the club and they all deserve one another - OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM INCLUDING COAR AND HENDRY!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Hi DD As another one who no longer attends after 40 years I could not have put it better. Have you also noticed more and more of the bloggers obviously come direct from BRFCs office, Its not the moaning hard paying fan who is to blame for the last two years its stuck up OWNERS The club is riddled with corruption from top to bottom IMO. Venkys out Hendry pension robber out Shebby out[/p][/quote]Corruption is not only accepted in India, It's expected. Don't believe me, just Google 'Corruption in India' Harwoodstblue
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11:58am Mon 21 Jan 13

RoversMCMLXXV says...

fanny_tickler. wrote:
What a joke of a club.

Classless supporters pelting the owners with snowballs.. Venky's are keeping you afloat, they have taken you on when no one else wanted you and the Walker Trust wanted shut asap, they have taken on your debt, invested £8M in a single player, manage a large wage bill, and have to put up with the worst set of supporters in the country demanding the sacking of anyone and everyone on a daily basis. If Venky's were to pull out, which wealthy investor is waiting in the wings ready to take on the shambles that is Blackburn Rovers? You may hate the Venky's but you're also completely dependent upon them.
Just like your dependent on Rovers to keep up this strange infatuation you appear to have.

There really isn't much going on in Bonleh village is there?

Before you post your poison, have a think about the catalogue of shameful events surrounding your gobsh1te supporters and poxy cardboard club over the years.
[quote][p][bold]fanny_tickler.[/bold] wrote: What a joke of a club. Classless supporters pelting the owners with snowballs.. Venky's are keeping you afloat, they have taken you on when no one else wanted you and the Walker Trust wanted shut asap, they have taken on your debt, invested £8M in a single player, manage a large wage bill, and have to put up with the worst set of supporters in the country demanding the sacking of anyone and everyone on a daily basis. If Venky's were to pull out, which wealthy investor is waiting in the wings ready to take on the shambles that is Blackburn Rovers? You may hate the Venky's but you're also completely dependent upon them.[/p][/quote]Just like your dependent on Rovers to keep up this strange infatuation you appear to have. There really isn't much going on in Bonleh village is there? Before you post your poison, have a think about the catalogue of shameful events surrounding your gobsh1te supporters and poxy cardboard club over the years. RoversMCMLXXV
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12:01pm Mon 21 Jan 13

burnleyglentoran says...

B*******d Rovers have announced that, on tuesday night, Shebby Singh will make the half draw.

The unlucky winner will be next months manager!

"Chumpionship" - Staying down 4eva!
B*******d Rovers have announced that, on tuesday night, Shebby Singh will make the half draw. The unlucky winner will be next months manager! "Chumpionship" - Staying down 4eva! burnleyglentoran
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12:02pm Mon 21 Jan 13

unclejacklegend says...

Riverside 7 wrote:
Well lets start with clearing out the deadwood at the club and make way for new recruits and our own youngsters.

Givet - I used to like his enthusiasm and commitment but after his 2 fall outs with Kean and his heart problems he dosn't seem to be the same player.
He has not been first choice for our last 3 managers - Berg, Bowyer & now Appleton and he must be on big wages. SELL

Dunn - Whilst he is a true Rovers fan, we must not let this overshadow the fact that he simply does not play enough games. He has made just 6 appearances out of 29 games this season. I have seen players recover from cruciate ligament injuries quicker that Dunn does from a calf strain. PAY UP HIS CONTRACT - RELEASE

Formica - he is not even a regular in the Championship. Kean/JA paid £3.5M for him. We would be lucky to get £1M for him. Neverthelss - SELL

Portuguese contingent - of the 6 players that Shebby signed from Portugal, only Fabio Nunes has showed that he has a chance of making it in England.
Most of the Portuguese players have not featured, especially since the colder weather started in November.
Gomes was a classy player and after a bright start to the season he is certainly not justifying the huge wages he is on. SELL / RELEASE

Etuhu - unless Appleton can find a way for him to play along side Murphy (I believe that he has already spoken to Roy Hodgson about this) then he should also go. He is another on big wages and has not impressed.
SELL

Robinson - how does a 33 year old professional sportsman become so overweight. Answer - lack of commitment. SELL

Olsson - over-rated as a full back. In my opinion, his best position is left side of midfield. If we can get over £4M for him - SELL

Dann - has certainly been a big disappointment since his arrival for around £6M. He makes too many mistakes. If we can get over £4M I would SELL.

Slew - I understand that he is now back at the club but he has hardly featured in the first team squad. Bought by Kean as one for the future! SELL

I am sure that I have missed quite a few out, but it shows the size of the task that Appleton now has.

Good luck. You are going to need it.
Hanley - not quick enough, doesn't win enough headers for a CB and panics with the ball, poor positionally due to lack of experience and no good looking to dann for inspiration. Fine as backup as under allardyce but not good enough for first string yet.

Murphy - lazy, slow, uninspiring (especially for a captain) doesn't lead by example, poor distribution, massive wages. A handful of acceptable at best performances in a rovers shirt.

Kazim Richards - trips over his bottom lip when asked to play wide rather than up front, arrogant, only chases down and puts effort in when he sees fit.
spends 90% of the game strutting around like he runs the place. Decent when he can be bothered but poor all day Saturday apart from 10 mins after half time.

Lowe- 2 or 3 cracking long balls and works hard but generally not gifted enough for a team which is supposed to be chasing promotion.

Big job on for Appleton.
[quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote: Well lets start with clearing out the deadwood at the club and make way for new recruits and our own youngsters. Givet - I used to like his enthusiasm and commitment but after his 2 fall outs with Kean and his heart problems he dosn't seem to be the same player. He has not been first choice for our last 3 managers - Berg, Bowyer & now Appleton and he must be on big wages. SELL Dunn - Whilst he is a true Rovers fan, we must not let this overshadow the fact that he simply does not play enough games. He has made just 6 appearances out of 29 games this season. I have seen players recover from cruciate ligament injuries quicker that Dunn does from a calf strain. PAY UP HIS CONTRACT - RELEASE Formica - he is not even a regular in the Championship. Kean/JA paid £3.5M for him. We would be lucky to get £1M for him. Neverthelss - SELL Portuguese contingent - of the 6 players that Shebby signed from Portugal, only Fabio Nunes has showed that he has a chance of making it in England. Most of the Portuguese players have not featured, especially since the colder weather started in November. Gomes was a classy player and after a bright start to the season he is certainly not justifying the huge wages he is on. SELL / RELEASE Etuhu - unless Appleton can find a way for him to play along side Murphy (I believe that he has already spoken to Roy Hodgson about this) then he should also go. He is another on big wages and has not impressed. SELL Robinson - how does a 33 year old professional sportsman become so overweight. Answer - lack of commitment. SELL Olsson - over-rated as a full back. In my opinion, his best position is left side of midfield. If we can get over £4M for him - SELL Dann - has certainly been a big disappointment since his arrival for around £6M. He makes too many mistakes. If we can get over £4M I would SELL. Slew - I understand that he is now back at the club but he has hardly featured in the first team squad. Bought by Kean as one for the future! SELL I am sure that I have missed quite a few out, but it shows the size of the task that Appleton now has. Good luck. You are going to need it.[/p][/quote]Hanley - not quick enough, doesn't win enough headers for a CB and panics with the ball, poor positionally due to lack of experience and no good looking to dann for inspiration. Fine as backup as under allardyce but not good enough for first string yet. Murphy - lazy, slow, uninspiring (especially for a captain) doesn't lead by example, poor distribution, massive wages. A handful of acceptable at best performances in a rovers shirt. Kazim Richards - trips over his bottom lip when asked to play wide rather than up front, arrogant, only chases down and puts effort in when he sees fit. spends 90% of the game strutting around like he runs the place. Decent when he can be bothered but poor all day Saturday apart from 10 mins after half time. Lowe- 2 or 3 cracking long balls and works hard but generally not gifted enough for a team which is supposed to be chasing promotion. Big job on for Appleton. unclejacklegend
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12:03pm Mon 21 Jan 13

benal13 says...

LittleRonnieHildersl
ey
wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
1952 rover wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
RoversSwiss wrote:
If they don't say anything they are ignoring the fans, if they do say something it's a conspiracy!! Appleton has a very tough job with sub standard players, a job being made 100 times more difficult by the boo-boys. What he said is correct, although I cant share his optimism.
Well what are supporters to do when they are treated so shamefully by the owners for so long??????????????

Instead of pathetically constantly blaming your long suffering fellow supporters why don't you (just for once) blame the people who are actually to blame - THE OWNERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - if they stoped running the club into the ground and stoped treating the supporters like dirt then supporters wouldnt do what human beings do in that situation - which is complain and moan.
So why call Appleton then ?
I don't think I did call Appleton - read what I said again, I never mentioned his name
For me - Venkys dragging the club down and so are some of the supporters! I wouldn't to play in that atmosphere.....see also Newcastle at the weekend, fans started moaning - team lost.

The problem is that a lot of those moaning can't offer a constructive alternative - other than moaning, getting on the players backs etc A good solution would be Venky's giving a stake of the club to the Trust - a set up a bit like Swansea. The Trust would never be able to afford to run the club in prem or championship under curent models. Unless there is a sugar Daddy amongst the moaners then I don't se a lot of alternaives and I don't think booing, shouting abuse, chucking snowballs etc is going to help anyone.
so whats your solution then just take every thing the venkys do and cheer them on, grow some balls IDIOT !!!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]LittleRonnieHildersl ey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1952 rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversSwiss[/bold] wrote: If they don't say anything they are ignoring the fans, if they do say something it's a conspiracy!! Appleton has a very tough job with sub standard players, a job being made 100 times more difficult by the boo-boys. What he said is correct, although I cant share his optimism.[/p][/quote]Well what are supporters to do when they are treated so shamefully by the owners for so long?????????????? Instead of pathetically constantly blaming your long suffering fellow supporters why don't you (just for once) blame the people who are actually to blame - THE OWNERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - if they stoped running the club into the ground and stoped treating the supporters like dirt then supporters wouldnt do what human beings do in that situation - which is complain and moan.[/p][/quote]So why call Appleton then ?[/p][/quote]I don't think I did call Appleton - read what I said again, I never mentioned his name[/p][/quote]For me - Venkys dragging the club down and so are some of the supporters! I wouldn't to play in that atmosphere.....see also Newcastle at the weekend, fans started moaning - team lost. The problem is that a lot of those moaning can't offer a constructive alternative - other than moaning, getting on the players backs etc A good solution would be Venky's giving a stake of the club to the Trust - a set up a bit like Swansea. The Trust would never be able to afford to run the club in prem or championship under curent models. Unless there is a sugar Daddy amongst the moaners then I don't se a lot of alternaives and I don't think booing, shouting abuse, chucking snowballs etc is going to help anyone.[/p][/quote]so whats your solution then just take every thing the venkys do and cheer them on, grow some balls IDIOT !!!!!!!!!! benal13
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12:05pm Mon 21 Jan 13

BRFC75 says...

Lancs - pensioner wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
Well were do you start after an abysmal performance such as this - you would have thought that the new Manager would capable enough of firing them up in terms of commitment but obviously not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As for the Venky's they got exactly what they deserved, turning up in a fleet of Rolls and rubbing our noses in the dirt - after the way we have been treat you dont have to be clairvoyant to understand that protests were on the cards - only two visits to Ewood by Mrs D's & Co and on both occasions left early not bothering to watch the crap served up by overated, overpaid so called professional footballers - no I didnt attend and wont whilst these idiots are in charge - I listened to Radio Lancs Commentary and felt sorry for those who had paid their hard earned cash to watch such a miserable performance by these prima dona' s who like the Owners/Directors of the Club treat the fans like idiots!!!
To say the Owners, Shaw, Agnew & Singh have ambition is a bloody joke - if we are so ambitious why have we gone for an unknown Manager and back room staff from a bankrupt Portsmouth who if were any good would have been snapped up by other clubs putting some money into the clubs coffers - no we have no real ambition we are just told that and when in the market place to buy we always go for second rate people - well they all deserve one another - unfortunately we have a set of losers running the club and they all deserve one another - OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM INCLUDING COAR AND HENDRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hi DD
As another one who no longer attends after 40 years I could not have put it better.
Have you also noticed more and more of the bloggers obviously come direct from BRFCs office,
Its not the moaning hard paying fan who is to blame for the last two years its stuck up OWNERS
The club is riddled with corruption from top to bottom IMO.

Venkys out

Hendry pension robber out

Shebby out
The clubs is being LOOTED from within , there is not a honest man among the lot of them , Coar is/was a Burnley fan and many years ago was unsuccessful in his attempts to get on the board at Burnley , Singh a nonentity that somehow has got himself into a position of power at Rovers the same way Uriah Heap did his snivelling to get in a position of power written about in David Copperfield , granny robber Hendry now only famous for managing to gamble all his money away and then he gambled all the pension life savings of an old couple away that befriended his family ,his requested a short term loan, he "borrowed" and then gambled all this money away his quote was " I was having fun".
The club needs to be cleansed of all these DISREPUTABLE people.
[quote][p][bold]Lancs - pensioner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: Well were do you start after an abysmal performance such as this - you would have thought that the new Manager would capable enough of firing them up in terms of commitment but obviously not!!!!!!!!!!!!!! As for the Venky's they got exactly what they deserved, turning up in a fleet of Rolls and rubbing our noses in the dirt - after the way we have been treat you dont have to be clairvoyant to understand that protests were on the cards - only two visits to Ewood by Mrs D's & Co and on both occasions left early not bothering to watch the crap served up by overated, overpaid so called professional footballers - no I didnt attend and wont whilst these idiots are in charge - I listened to Radio Lancs Commentary and felt sorry for those who had paid their hard earned cash to watch such a miserable performance by these prima dona' s who like the Owners/Directors of the Club treat the fans like idiots!!! To say the Owners, Shaw, Agnew & Singh have ambition is a bloody joke - if we are so ambitious why have we gone for an unknown Manager and back room staff from a bankrupt Portsmouth who if were any good would have been snapped up by other clubs putting some money into the clubs coffers - no we have no real ambition we are just told that and when in the market place to buy we always go for second rate people - well they all deserve one another - unfortunately we have a set of losers running the club and they all deserve one another - OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM INCLUDING COAR AND HENDRY!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Hi DD As another one who no longer attends after 40 years I could not have put it better. Have you also noticed more and more of the bloggers obviously come direct from BRFCs office, Its not the moaning hard paying fan who is to blame for the last two years its stuck up OWNERS The club is riddled with corruption from top to bottom IMO. Venkys out Hendry pension robber out Shebby out[/p][/quote]The clubs is being LOOTED from within , there is not a honest man among the lot of them , Coar is/was a Burnley fan and many years ago was unsuccessful in his attempts to get on the board at Burnley , Singh a nonentity that somehow has got himself into a position of power at Rovers the same way Uriah Heap did his snivelling to get in a position of power written about in David Copperfield , granny robber Hendry now only famous for managing to gamble all his money away and then he gambled all the pension life savings of an old couple away that befriended his family ,his requested a short term loan, he "borrowed" and then gambled all this money away his quote was " I was having fun". The club needs to be cleansed of all these DISREPUTABLE people. BRFC75
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12:06pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Keen O to Get Kean Out says...

the table does not lie and if we survive this season from relegtion Appleton has a 2 year rebuilding job on his hands after sats performance and all the damage that has been done. My fear is will Venkys wait 2 years before they bang it .
the table does not lie and if we survive this season from relegtion Appleton has a 2 year rebuilding job on his hands after sats performance and all the damage that has been done. My fear is will Venkys wait 2 years before they bang it . Keen O to Get Kean Out
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12:15pm Mon 21 Jan 13

dansker says...

Captain Dreckley wrote:
Appleton certainly has a handle on what the issues are with the squad. The question is, will he have the support of Venkys and Singh to make the changes needed. He reminds me of when Souness came to the club and put a rocket up.some of our big earning big name under achievers. Difference then was he was backed by Jack and JW. Whatever Singh has been spinning to Venkys, Saturdays performance and result didn't lie. Let's hope Appleton does get his three new faces in to strengthen midfield and defence.
Yes-- but who was the last manager with silverware at Rovers?? yes Souness!
[quote][p][bold]Captain Dreckley[/bold] wrote: Appleton certainly has a handle on what the issues are with the squad. The question is, will he have the support of Venkys and Singh to make the changes needed. He reminds me of when Souness came to the club and put a rocket up.some of our big earning big name under achievers. Difference then was he was backed by Jack and JW. Whatever Singh has been spinning to Venkys, Saturdays performance and result didn't lie. Let's hope Appleton does get his three new faces in to strengthen midfield and defence.[/p][/quote]Yes-- but who was the last manager with silverware at Rovers?? yes Souness! dansker
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12:18pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Keen O to Get Kean Out says...

sat performance was dire and those players should be ashamed of themselves
sat performance was dire and those players should be ashamed of themselves Keen O to Get Kean Out
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12:33pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Will P says...

unclejacklegend wrote:
Riverside 7 wrote:
Well lets start with clearing out the deadwood at the club and make way for new recruits and our own youngsters.

Givet - I used to like his enthusiasm and commitment but after his 2 fall outs with Kean and his heart problems he dosn't seem to be the same player.
He has not been first choice for our last 3 managers - Berg, Bowyer & now Appleton and he must be on big wages. SELL

Dunn - Whilst he is a true Rovers fan, we must not let this overshadow the fact that he simply does not play enough games. He has made just 6 appearances out of 29 games this season. I have seen players recover from cruciate ligament injuries quicker that Dunn does from a calf strain. PAY UP HIS CONTRACT - RELEASE

Formica - he is not even a regular in the Championship. Kean/JA paid £3.5M for him. We would be lucky to get £1M for him. Neverthelss - SELL

Portuguese contingent - of the 6 players that Shebby signed from Portugal, only Fabio Nunes has showed that he has a chance of making it in England.
Most of the Portuguese players have not featured, especially since the colder weather started in November.
Gomes was a classy player and after a bright start to the season he is certainly not justifying the huge wages he is on. SELL / RELEASE

Etuhu - unless Appleton can find a way for him to play along side Murphy (I believe that he has already spoken to Roy Hodgson about this) then he should also go. He is another on big wages and has not impressed.
SELL

Robinson - how does a 33 year old professional sportsman become so overweight. Answer - lack of commitment. SELL

Olsson - over-rated as a full back. In my opinion, his best position is left side of midfield. If we can get over £4M for him - SELL

Dann - has certainly been a big disappointment since his arrival for around £6M. He makes too many mistakes. If we can get over £4M I would SELL.

Slew - I understand that he is now back at the club but he has hardly featured in the first team squad. Bought by Kean as one for the future! SELL

I am sure that I have missed quite a few out, but it shows the size of the task that Appleton now has.

Good luck. You are going to need it.
Hanley - not quick enough, doesn't win enough headers for a CB and panics with the ball, poor positionally due to lack of experience and no good looking to dann for inspiration. Fine as backup as under allardyce but not good enough for first string yet.

Murphy - lazy, slow, uninspiring (especially for a captain) doesn't lead by example, poor distribution, massive wages. A handful of acceptable at best performances in a rovers shirt.

Kazim Richards - trips over his bottom lip when asked to play wide rather than up front, arrogant, only chases down and puts effort in when he sees fit.
spends 90% of the game strutting around like he runs the place. Decent when he can be bothered but poor all day Saturday apart from 10 mins after half time.

Lowe- 2 or 3 cracking long balls and works hard but generally not gifted enough for a team which is supposed to be chasing promotion.

Big job on for Appleton.
How about the following:-

1) Marlon King - free transfer, he can play alongside Rhodes in home games. This would be until Leon Best comes back, and in case Best's injury re-occurs.

2) Graham Dorrans - No clue but transfer listed. Can play as a left midfielder or as a central midfielder. Better work rate and passing than current central midfielders.

3) Alberto Botia - Centre back for Sevilla. Fringe player for their first team, but is a better player than what we currently have. Played alongside Rochina for Barcelona B team.

4) Albert Adomah - £1m (approx.). Winger for Bristol City, should really be playing football in the Premier League, hence Swansea wanting him.

5) Younousse Sankhare - Midfielder for Valenciennes in Ligue 1 of France. Played twice this season and was sold by PSG as soon as money bags came in.

Just some suggestions, I just think it shows that there are players out there, you just have to look hard. Swansea and Newcastle have become masters at it (I know they are PL but you know what i'm saying).
[quote][p][bold]unclejacklegend[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote: Well lets start with clearing out the deadwood at the club and make way for new recruits and our own youngsters. Givet - I used to like his enthusiasm and commitment but after his 2 fall outs with Kean and his heart problems he dosn't seem to be the same player. He has not been first choice for our last 3 managers - Berg, Bowyer & now Appleton and he must be on big wages. SELL Dunn - Whilst he is a true Rovers fan, we must not let this overshadow the fact that he simply does not play enough games. He has made just 6 appearances out of 29 games this season. I have seen players recover from cruciate ligament injuries quicker that Dunn does from a calf strain. PAY UP HIS CONTRACT - RELEASE Formica - he is not even a regular in the Championship. Kean/JA paid £3.5M for him. We would be lucky to get £1M for him. Neverthelss - SELL Portuguese contingent - of the 6 players that Shebby signed from Portugal, only Fabio Nunes has showed that he has a chance of making it in England. Most of the Portuguese players have not featured, especially since the colder weather started in November. Gomes was a classy player and after a bright start to the season he is certainly not justifying the huge wages he is on. SELL / RELEASE Etuhu - unless Appleton can find a way for him to play along side Murphy (I believe that he has already spoken to Roy Hodgson about this) then he should also go. He is another on big wages and has not impressed. SELL Robinson - how does a 33 year old professional sportsman become so overweight. Answer - lack of commitment. SELL Olsson - over-rated as a full back. In my opinion, his best position is left side of midfield. If we can get over £4M for him - SELL Dann - has certainly been a big disappointment since his arrival for around £6M. He makes too many mistakes. If we can get over £4M I would SELL. Slew - I understand that he is now back at the club but he has hardly featured in the first team squad. Bought by Kean as one for the future! SELL I am sure that I have missed quite a few out, but it shows the size of the task that Appleton now has. Good luck. You are going to need it.[/p][/quote]Hanley - not quick enough, doesn't win enough headers for a CB and panics with the ball, poor positionally due to lack of experience and no good looking to dann for inspiration. Fine as backup as under allardyce but not good enough for first string yet. Murphy - lazy, slow, uninspiring (especially for a captain) doesn't lead by example, poor distribution, massive wages. A handful of acceptable at best performances in a rovers shirt. Kazim Richards - trips over his bottom lip when asked to play wide rather than up front, arrogant, only chases down and puts effort in when he sees fit. spends 90% of the game strutting around like he runs the place. Decent when he can be bothered but poor all day Saturday apart from 10 mins after half time. Lowe- 2 or 3 cracking long balls and works hard but generally not gifted enough for a team which is supposed to be chasing promotion. Big job on for Appleton.[/p][/quote]How about the following:- 1) Marlon King - free transfer, he can play alongside Rhodes in home games. This would be until Leon Best comes back, and in case Best's injury re-occurs. 2) Graham Dorrans - No clue but transfer listed. Can play as a left midfielder or as a central midfielder. Better work rate and passing than current central midfielders. 3) Alberto Botia - Centre back for Sevilla. Fringe player for their first team, but is a better player than what we currently have. Played alongside Rochina for Barcelona B team. 4) Albert Adomah - £1m (approx.). Winger for Bristol City, should really be playing football in the Premier League, hence Swansea wanting him. 5) Younousse Sankhare - Midfielder for Valenciennes in Ligue 1 of France. Played twice this season and was sold by PSG as soon as money bags came in. Just some suggestions, I just think it shows that there are players out there, you just have to look hard. Swansea and Newcastle have become masters at it (I know they are PL but you know what i'm saying). Will P
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12:38pm Mon 21 Jan 13

ChrisDeBerg says...

Did anyone else just spot the word SCOUT in that article. And a manager keeping his targets quiet...?! Appleton has yet to show his worth, but I liked these two points.

RTID
Did anyone else just spot the word SCOUT in that article. And a manager keeping his targets quiet...?! Appleton has yet to show his worth, but I liked these two points. RTID ChrisDeBerg
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12:43pm Mon 21 Jan 13

fudgingluvrovers says...

can someone tell why i've just read an interview with dipsh!t shaw on bbc and other sites yet nothing of such on LT site ? if their not going to talk to you Andy then where's the harm in using your column to tear the sh!t out of the regime , fed up of reading the same old dribble day after day , rearranging paragraphs and assigning different names to re-recycled quotes in a lame effort to print an article is not professional journalism. quit pussyfooting around and ask some real questions at the very least ask brfc what there definition of ambition is . show some pride man!
can someone tell why i've just read an interview with dipsh!t shaw on bbc and other sites yet nothing of such on LT site ? if their not going to talk to you Andy then where's the harm in using your column to tear the sh!t out of the regime , fed up of reading the same old dribble day after day , rearranging paragraphs and assigning different names to re-recycled quotes in a lame effort to print an article is not professional journalism. quit pussyfooting around and ask some real questions at the very least ask brfc what there definition of ambition is . show some pride man! fudgingluvrovers
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12:46pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Riverside 7 says...

unclejacklegend wrote:
Riverside 7 wrote:
Well lets start with clearing out the deadwood at the club and make way for new recruits and our own youngsters.

Givet - I used to like his enthusiasm and commitment but after his 2 fall outs with Kean and his heart problems he dosn't seem to be the same player.
He has not been first choice for our last 3 managers - Berg, Bowyer & now Appleton and he must be on big wages. SELL

Dunn - Whilst he is a true Rovers fan, we must not let this overshadow the fact that he simply does not play enough games. He has made just 6 appearances out of 29 games this season. I have seen players recover from cruciate ligament injuries quicker that Dunn does from a calf strain. PAY UP HIS CONTRACT - RELEASE

Formica - he is not even a regular in the Championship. Kean/JA paid £3.5M for him. We would be lucky to get £1M for him. Neverthelss - SELL

Portuguese contingent - of the 6 players that Shebby signed from Portugal, only Fabio Nunes has showed that he has a chance of making it in England.
Most of the Portuguese players have not featured, especially since the colder weather started in November.
Gomes was a classy player and after a bright start to the season he is certainly not justifying the huge wages he is on. SELL / RELEASE

Etuhu - unless Appleton can find a way for him to play along side Murphy (I believe that he has already spoken to Roy Hodgson about this) then he should also go. He is another on big wages and has not impressed.
SELL

Robinson - how does a 33 year old professional sportsman become so overweight. Answer - lack of commitment. SELL

Olsson - over-rated as a full back. In my opinion, his best position is left side of midfield. If we can get over £4M for him - SELL

Dann - has certainly been a big disappointment since his arrival for around £6M. He makes too many mistakes. If we can get over £4M I would SELL.

Slew - I understand that he is now back at the club but he has hardly featured in the first team squad. Bought by Kean as one for the future! SELL

I am sure that I have missed quite a few out, but it shows the size of the task that Appleton now has.

Good luck. You are going to need it.
Hanley - not quick enough, doesn't win enough headers for a CB and panics with the ball, poor positionally due to lack of experience and no good looking to dann for inspiration. Fine as backup as under allardyce but not good enough for first string yet.

Murphy - lazy, slow, uninspiring (especially for a captain) doesn't lead by example, poor distribution, massive wages. A handful of acceptable at best performances in a rovers shirt.

Kazim Richards - trips over his bottom lip when asked to play wide rather than up front, arrogant, only chases down and puts effort in when he sees fit.
spends 90% of the game strutting around like he runs the place. Decent when he can be bothered but poor all day Saturday apart from 10 mins after half time.

Lowe- 2 or 3 cracking long balls and works hard but generally not gifted enough for a team which is supposed to be chasing promotion.

Big job on for Appleton.
Agree with unclejackledgend and also with Mike55's comments.

However I did say that I was sure that I had missed a few players out.

In addition;-
Vukcevic missed a golden oportunity to stake a place in the team on Saturday. His he really up for the fight?

Rochina - lots of skill but is he improving enough? He was another who was awful on Saturday.

If Dunn is isn't even injured as one poster has mentioned today - what the hell is going on?
Why are we still paying him around £30K per week. His contract expires in June 2013.

Finally - I am still waiting for 1952Rover to let me know Shebby's new email address.
Amazingly 1952Rover can decline meetings with Shebby whilst the rest of us cannot communicate with him.
[quote][p][bold]unclejacklegend[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote: Well lets start with clearing out the deadwood at the club and make way for new recruits and our own youngsters. Givet - I used to like his enthusiasm and commitment but after his 2 fall outs with Kean and his heart problems he dosn't seem to be the same player. He has not been first choice for our last 3 managers - Berg, Bowyer & now Appleton and he must be on big wages. SELL Dunn - Whilst he is a true Rovers fan, we must not let this overshadow the fact that he simply does not play enough games. He has made just 6 appearances out of 29 games this season. I have seen players recover from cruciate ligament injuries quicker that Dunn does from a calf strain. PAY UP HIS CONTRACT - RELEASE Formica - he is not even a regular in the Championship. Kean/JA paid £3.5M for him. We would be lucky to get £1M for him. Neverthelss - SELL Portuguese contingent - of the 6 players that Shebby signed from Portugal, only Fabio Nunes has showed that he has a chance of making it in England. Most of the Portuguese players have not featured, especially since the colder weather started in November. Gomes was a classy player and after a bright start to the season he is certainly not justifying the huge wages he is on. SELL / RELEASE Etuhu - unless Appleton can find a way for him to play along side Murphy (I believe that he has already spoken to Roy Hodgson about this) then he should also go. He is another on big wages and has not impressed. SELL Robinson - how does a 33 year old professional sportsman become so overweight. Answer - lack of commitment. SELL Olsson - over-rated as a full back. In my opinion, his best position is left side of midfield. If we can get over £4M for him - SELL Dann - has certainly been a big disappointment since his arrival for around £6M. He makes too many mistakes. If we can get over £4M I would SELL. Slew - I understand that he is now back at the club but he has hardly featured in the first team squad. Bought by Kean as one for the future! SELL I am sure that I have missed quite a few out, but it shows the size of the task that Appleton now has. Good luck. You are going to need it.[/p][/quote]Hanley - not quick enough, doesn't win enough headers for a CB and panics with the ball, poor positionally due to lack of experience and no good looking to dann for inspiration. Fine as backup as under allardyce but not good enough for first string yet. Murphy - lazy, slow, uninspiring (especially for a captain) doesn't lead by example, poor distribution, massive wages. A handful of acceptable at best performances in a rovers shirt. Kazim Richards - trips over his bottom lip when asked to play wide rather than up front, arrogant, only chases down and puts effort in when he sees fit. spends 90% of the game strutting around like he runs the place. Decent when he can be bothered but poor all day Saturday apart from 10 mins after half time. Lowe- 2 or 3 cracking long balls and works hard but generally not gifted enough for a team which is supposed to be chasing promotion. Big job on for Appleton.[/p][/quote]Agree with unclejackledgend and also with Mike55's comments. However I did say that I was sure that I had missed a few players out. In addition;- Vukcevic missed a golden oportunity to stake a place in the team on Saturday. His he really up for the fight? Rochina - lots of skill but is he improving enough? He was another who was awful on Saturday. If Dunn is isn't even injured as one poster has mentioned today - what the hell is going on? Why are we still paying him around £30K per week. His contract expires in June 2013. Finally - I am still waiting for 1952Rover to let me know Shebby's new email address. Amazingly 1952Rover can decline meetings with Shebby whilst the rest of us cannot communicate with him. Riverside 7
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12:47pm Mon 21 Jan 13

LittleRonnieHildersley says...

benal13 wrote:
LittleRonnieHildersl

ey
wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
1952 rover wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
RoversSwiss wrote:
If they don't say anything they are ignoring the fans, if they do say something it's a conspiracy!! Appleton has a very tough job with sub standard players, a job being made 100 times more difficult by the boo-boys. What he said is correct, although I cant share his optimism.
Well what are supporters to do when they are treated so shamefully by the owners for so long??????????????

Instead of pathetically constantly blaming your long suffering fellow supporters why don't you (just for once) blame the people who are actually to blame - THE OWNERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - if they stoped running the club into the ground and stoped treating the supporters like dirt then supporters wouldnt do what human beings do in that situation - which is complain and moan.
So why call Appleton then ?
I don't think I did call Appleton - read what I said again, I never mentioned his name
For me - Venkys dragging the club down and so are some of the supporters! I wouldn't to play in that atmosphere.....see also Newcastle at the weekend, fans started moaning - team lost.

The problem is that a lot of those moaning can't offer a constructive alternative - other than moaning, getting on the players backs etc A good solution would be Venky's giving a stake of the club to the Trust - a set up a bit like Swansea. The Trust would never be able to afford to run the club in prem or championship under curent models. Unless there is a sugar Daddy amongst the moaners then I don't se a lot of alternaives and I don't think booing, shouting abuse, chucking snowballs etc is going to help anyone.
so whats your solution then just take every thing the venkys do and cheer them on, grow some balls IDIOT !!!!!!!!!!
If you read it I gave a solution - I wouldn't cheer Venkys but I will not boo the team especially with a new manager. Fine if you think I'm an idiot - we can't all offer insightful and well thought out constructive posts like yours.
[quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LittleRonnieHildersl ey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1952 rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversSwiss[/bold] wrote: If they don't say anything they are ignoring the fans, if they do say something it's a conspiracy!! Appleton has a very tough job with sub standard players, a job being made 100 times more difficult by the boo-boys. What he said is correct, although I cant share his optimism.[/p][/quote]Well what are supporters to do when they are treated so shamefully by the owners for so long?????????????? Instead of pathetically constantly blaming your long suffering fellow supporters why don't you (just for once) blame the people who are actually to blame - THE OWNERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - if they stoped running the club into the ground and stoped treating the supporters like dirt then supporters wouldnt do what human beings do in that situation - which is complain and moan.[/p][/quote]So why call Appleton then ?[/p][/quote]I don't think I did call Appleton - read what I said again, I never mentioned his name[/p][/quote]For me - Venkys dragging the club down and so are some of the supporters! I wouldn't to play in that atmosphere.....see also Newcastle at the weekend, fans started moaning - team lost. The problem is that a lot of those moaning can't offer a constructive alternative - other than moaning, getting on the players backs etc A good solution would be Venky's giving a stake of the club to the Trust - a set up a bit like Swansea. The Trust would never be able to afford to run the club in prem or championship under curent models. Unless there is a sugar Daddy amongst the moaners then I don't se a lot of alternaives and I don't think booing, shouting abuse, chucking snowballs etc is going to help anyone.[/p][/quote]so whats your solution then just take every thing the venkys do and cheer them on, grow some balls IDIOT !!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]If you read it I gave a solution - I wouldn't cheer Venkys but I will not boo the team especially with a new manager. Fine if you think I'm an idiot - we can't all offer insightful and well thought out constructive posts like yours. LittleRonnieHildersley
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1:00pm Mon 21 Jan 13

kfc yummy says...

Road Runner Road Runner wrote:
Researching our history, and handed this on Saturday by a long time fellow Rover I put forth this extract for your eye's only:

The first provincial team to win the Association Cup, in 1883, beating the Old Etonians 2 - 1, after an extra half hour, Mr. T. Hacking, who kept goal for them in that celebrated contest, again donned the jersey at Ewood Park in March, 1892, giving an exhibition that was a revelation to those who had not previously seen him in action.
At one time football partisans whose real zeal outran their discretion were in the habit of relieving their feelings bu pelting opponents with stones and mud. It was great sport while it lasted, though those foolish enough to indulge in it had scant regard for the trouble it might cause. For example, when Burnley were here in December, 1892, they complained of the liveliness of their journey to the railway station. They had lost an exciting match by 2-0. In the last few minutes the referee had found it necessary to order a player on each side to leave the field. Rightly or wrongly, a section of the crowd believed that the visitors were to blame for what had happened. As a sequel, Burnley alleged that they were bombarded with missiles as they drove in a wagonette along Bolton Road. Jack Hillman, their goalkeeper was reported to have been struck in the face by a stone, and the players generally were said to have had narrow escapes from injury.
When the matter was investigated by a commission of the Football Association the Rovers club put in affidavits to the effect that there was no stone-throwing within at least 200 yards of Ewood Park, and as far as they knew nothing of the kind took place at that distance. The club were honorably acquitted, the commission dismissing the appeal and holding that no blame attached to the Rovers committee. They suggested, however, that it would have been more prudent if protection had been provided for the Burnley team until they reached the town. As the complainants had asked not for a penalty, but for a ruling on the subject, they were equally satisfied with the decision.

Arte et labore
What is the point of this post.
[quote][p][bold]Road Runner Road Runner[/bold] wrote: Researching our history, and handed this on Saturday by a long time fellow Rover I put forth this extract for your eye's only: The first provincial team to win the Association Cup, in 1883, beating the Old Etonians 2 - 1, after an extra half hour, Mr. T. Hacking, who kept goal for them in that celebrated contest, again donned the jersey at Ewood Park in March, 1892, giving an exhibition that was a revelation to those who had not previously seen him in action. At one time football partisans whose real zeal outran their discretion were in the habit of relieving their feelings bu pelting opponents with stones and mud. It was great sport while it lasted, though those foolish enough to indulge in it had scant regard for the trouble it might cause. For example, when Burnley were here in December, 1892, they complained of the liveliness of their journey to the railway station. They had lost an exciting match by 2-0. In the last few minutes the referee had found it necessary to order a player on each side to leave the field. Rightly or wrongly, a section of the crowd believed that the visitors were to blame for what had happened. As a sequel, Burnley alleged that they were bombarded with missiles as they drove in a wagonette along Bolton Road. Jack Hillman, their goalkeeper was reported to have been struck in the face by a stone, and the players generally were said to have had narrow escapes from injury. When the matter was investigated by a commission of the Football Association the Rovers club put in affidavits to the effect that there was no stone-throwing within at least 200 yards of Ewood Park, and as far as they knew nothing of the kind took place at that distance. The club were honorably acquitted, the commission dismissing the appeal and holding that no blame attached to the Rovers committee. They suggested, however, that it would have been more prudent if protection had been provided for the Burnley team until they reached the town. As the complainants had asked not for a penalty, but for a ruling on the subject, they were equally satisfied with the decision. Arte et labore[/p][/quote]What is the point of this post. kfc yummy
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1:04pm Mon 21 Jan 13

fanny_tickler. says...

RoversMCMLXXV wrote:
fanny_tickler. wrote:
What a joke of a club.

Classless supporters pelting the owners with snowballs.. Venky's are keeping you afloat, they have taken you on when no one else wanted you and the Walker Trust wanted shut asap, they have taken on your debt, invested £8M in a single player, manage a large wage bill, and have to put up with the worst set of supporters in the country demanding the sacking of anyone and everyone on a daily basis. If Venky's were to pull out, which wealthy investor is waiting in the wings ready to take on the shambles that is Blackburn Rovers? You may hate the Venky's but you're also completely dependent upon them.
Just like your dependent on Rovers to keep up this strange infatuation you appear to have.

There really isn't much going on in Bonleh village is there?

Before you post your poison, have a think about the catalogue of shameful events surrounding your gobsh1te supporters and poxy cardboard club over the years.
Apologies - "A SECTION of classless supporters pelting the owners with snowballs."

Yes, all quiet on the Claret front, just a third straight league win with no goals conceded for the one-man poxy, cardboard team that is Burnley.
[quote][p][bold]RoversMCMLXXV[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fanny_tickler.[/bold] wrote: What a joke of a club. Classless supporters pelting the owners with snowballs.. Venky's are keeping you afloat, they have taken you on when no one else wanted you and the Walker Trust wanted shut asap, they have taken on your debt, invested £8M in a single player, manage a large wage bill, and have to put up with the worst set of supporters in the country demanding the sacking of anyone and everyone on a daily basis. If Venky's were to pull out, which wealthy investor is waiting in the wings ready to take on the shambles that is Blackburn Rovers? You may hate the Venky's but you're also completely dependent upon them.[/p][/quote]Just like your dependent on Rovers to keep up this strange infatuation you appear to have. There really isn't much going on in Bonleh village is there? Before you post your poison, have a think about the catalogue of shameful events surrounding your gobsh1te supporters and poxy cardboard club over the years.[/p][/quote]Apologies - "A SECTION of classless supporters pelting the owners with snowballs." Yes, all quiet on the Claret front, just a third straight league win with no goals conceded for the one-man poxy, cardboard team that is Burnley. fanny_tickler.
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1:13pm Mon 21 Jan 13

A Darener says...

fanny_tickler. wrote:
RoversMCMLXXV wrote:
fanny_tickler. wrote:
What a joke of a club.

Classless supporters pelting the owners with snowballs.. Venky's are keeping you afloat, they have taken you on when no one else wanted you and the Walker Trust wanted shut asap, they have taken on your debt, invested £8M in a single player, manage a large wage bill, and have to put up with the worst set of supporters in the country demanding the sacking of anyone and everyone on a daily basis. If Venky's were to pull out, which wealthy investor is waiting in the wings ready to take on the shambles that is Blackburn Rovers? You may hate the Venky's but you're also completely dependent upon them.
Just like your dependent on Rovers to keep up this strange infatuation you appear to have.

There really isn't much going on in Bonleh village is there?

Before you post your poison, have a think about the catalogue of shameful events surrounding your gobsh1te supporters and poxy cardboard club over the years.
Apologies - "A SECTION of classless supporters pelting the owners with snowballs."

Yes, all quiet on the Claret front, just a third straight league win with no goals conceded for the one-man poxy, cardboard team that is Burnley.
To all Burnley fans on these pages, enjoy it while you can. It will not last.
[quote][p][bold]fanny_tickler.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversMCMLXXV[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fanny_tickler.[/bold] wrote: What a joke of a club. Classless supporters pelting the owners with snowballs.. Venky's are keeping you afloat, they have taken you on when no one else wanted you and the Walker Trust wanted shut asap, they have taken on your debt, invested £8M in a single player, manage a large wage bill, and have to put up with the worst set of supporters in the country demanding the sacking of anyone and everyone on a daily basis. If Venky's were to pull out, which wealthy investor is waiting in the wings ready to take on the shambles that is Blackburn Rovers? You may hate the Venky's but you're also completely dependent upon them.[/p][/quote]Just like your dependent on Rovers to keep up this strange infatuation you appear to have. There really isn't much going on in Bonleh village is there? Before you post your poison, have a think about the catalogue of shameful events surrounding your gobsh1te supporters and poxy cardboard club over the years.[/p][/quote]Apologies - "A SECTION of classless supporters pelting the owners with snowballs." Yes, all quiet on the Claret front, just a third straight league win with no goals conceded for the one-man poxy, cardboard team that is Burnley.[/p][/quote]To all Burnley fans on these pages, enjoy it while you can. It will not last. A Darener
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1:13pm Mon 21 Jan 13

benal13 says...

LittleRonnieHildersl
ey
wrote:
benal13 wrote:
LittleRonnieHildersl


ey
wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
1952 rover wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
RoversSwiss wrote:
If they don't say anything they are ignoring the fans, if they do say something it's a conspiracy!! Appleton has a very tough job with sub standard players, a job being made 100 times more difficult by the boo-boys. What he said is correct, although I cant share his optimism.
Well what are supporters to do when they are treated so shamefully by the owners for so long??????????????

Instead of pathetically constantly blaming your long suffering fellow supporters why don't you (just for once) blame the people who are actually to blame - THE OWNERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - if they stoped running the club into the ground and stoped treating the supporters like dirt then supporters wouldnt do what human beings do in that situation - which is complain and moan.
So why call Appleton then ?
I don't think I did call Appleton - read what I said again, I never mentioned his name
For me - Venkys dragging the club down and so are some of the supporters! I wouldn't to play in that atmosphere.....see also Newcastle at the weekend, fans started moaning - team lost.

The problem is that a lot of those moaning can't offer a constructive alternative - other than moaning, getting on the players backs etc A good solution would be Venky's giving a stake of the club to the Trust - a set up a bit like Swansea. The Trust would never be able to afford to run the club in prem or championship under curent models. Unless there is a sugar Daddy amongst the moaners then I don't se a lot of alternaives and I don't think booing, shouting abuse, chucking snowballs etc is going to help anyone.
so whats your solution then just take every thing the venkys do and cheer them on, grow some balls IDIOT !!!!!!!!!!
If you read it I gave a solution - I wouldn't cheer Venkys but I will not boo the team especially with a new manager. Fine if you think I'm an idiot - we can't all offer insightful and well thought out constructive posts like yours.
some people have it some people dont!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]LittleRonnieHildersl ey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LittleRonnieHildersl ey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1952 rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversSwiss[/bold] wrote: If they don't say anything they are ignoring the fans, if they do say something it's a conspiracy!! Appleton has a very tough job with sub standard players, a job being made 100 times more difficult by the boo-boys. What he said is correct, although I cant share his optimism.[/p][/quote]Well what are supporters to do when they are treated so shamefully by the owners for so long?????????????? Instead of pathetically constantly blaming your long suffering fellow supporters why don't you (just for once) blame the people who are actually to blame - THE OWNERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - if they stoped running the club into the ground and stoped treating the supporters like dirt then supporters wouldnt do what human beings do in that situation - which is complain and moan.[/p][/quote]So why call Appleton then ?[/p][/quote]I don't think I did call Appleton - read what I said again, I never mentioned his name[/p][/quote]For me - Venkys dragging the club down and so are some of the supporters! I wouldn't to play in that atmosphere.....see also Newcastle at the weekend, fans started moaning - team lost. The problem is that a lot of those moaning can't offer a constructive alternative - other than moaning, getting on the players backs etc A good solution would be Venky's giving a stake of the club to the Trust - a set up a bit like Swansea. The Trust would never be able to afford to run the club in prem or championship under curent models. Unless there is a sugar Daddy amongst the moaners then I don't se a lot of alternaives and I don't think booing, shouting abuse, chucking snowballs etc is going to help anyone.[/p][/quote]so whats your solution then just take every thing the venkys do and cheer them on, grow some balls IDIOT !!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]If you read it I gave a solution - I wouldn't cheer Venkys but I will not boo the team especially with a new manager. Fine if you think I'm an idiot - we can't all offer insightful and well thought out constructive posts like yours.[/p][/quote]some people have it some people dont!!!!!! benal13
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1:14pm Mon 21 Jan 13

stevieclaret says...

Id start with a new snowman. Frig u lot are hard up. First horses now snowmen!!!
Id start with a new snowman. Frig u lot are hard up. First horses now snowmen!!! stevieclaret
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1:19pm Mon 21 Jan 13

ChrisDeBerg says...

Does anyone else not think if Pat Nevin got a tan and grew a tash that he would be shebby singh?

RTID
Does anyone else not think if Pat Nevin got a tan and grew a tash that he would be shebby singh? RTID ChrisDeBerg
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1:20pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Road Runner Road Runner says...

kfc yummy wrote:
Road Runner Road Runner wrote:
Researching our history, and handed this on Saturday by a long time fellow Rover I put forth this extract for your eye's only:

The first provincial team to win the Association Cup, in 1883, beating the Old Etonians 2 - 1, after an extra half hour, Mr. T. Hacking, who kept goal for them in that celebrated contest, again donned the jersey at Ewood Park in March, 1892, giving an exhibition that was a revelation to those who had not previously seen him in action.
At one time football partisans whose real zeal outran their discretion were in the habit of relieving their feelings bu pelting opponents with stones and mud. It was great sport while it lasted, though those foolish enough to indulge in it had scant regard for the trouble it might cause. For example, when Burnley were here in December, 1892, they complained of the liveliness of their journey to the railway station. They had lost an exciting match by 2-0. In the last few minutes the referee had found it necessary to order a player on each side to leave the field. Rightly or wrongly, a section of the crowd believed that the visitors were to blame for what had happened. As a sequel, Burnley alleged that they were bombarded with missiles as they drove in a wagonette along Bolton Road. Jack Hillman, their goalkeeper was reported to have been struck in the face by a stone, and the players generally were said to have had narrow escapes from injury.
When the matter was investigated by a commission of the Football Association the Rovers club put in affidavits to the effect that there was no stone-throwing within at least 200 yards of Ewood Park, and as far as they knew nothing of the kind took place at that distance. The club were honorably acquitted, the commission dismissing the appeal and holding that no blame attached to the Rovers committee. They suggested, however, that it would have been more prudent if protection had been provided for the Burnley team until they reached the town. As the complainants had asked not for a penalty, but for a ruling on the subject, they were equally satisfied with the decision.

Arte et labore
What is the point of this post.
Lost on you, obviously !
[quote][p][bold]kfc yummy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Road Runner Road Runner[/bold] wrote: Researching our history, and handed this on Saturday by a long time fellow Rover I put forth this extract for your eye's only: The first provincial team to win the Association Cup, in 1883, beating the Old Etonians 2 - 1, after an extra half hour, Mr. T. Hacking, who kept goal for them in that celebrated contest, again donned the jersey at Ewood Park in March, 1892, giving an exhibition that was a revelation to those who had not previously seen him in action. At one time football partisans whose real zeal outran their discretion were in the habit of relieving their feelings bu pelting opponents with stones and mud. It was great sport while it lasted, though those foolish enough to indulge in it had scant regard for the trouble it might cause. For example, when Burnley were here in December, 1892, they complained of the liveliness of their journey to the railway station. They had lost an exciting match by 2-0. In the last few minutes the referee had found it necessary to order a player on each side to leave the field. Rightly or wrongly, a section of the crowd believed that the visitors were to blame for what had happened. As a sequel, Burnley alleged that they were bombarded with missiles as they drove in a wagonette along Bolton Road. Jack Hillman, their goalkeeper was reported to have been struck in the face by a stone, and the players generally were said to have had narrow escapes from injury. When the matter was investigated by a commission of the Football Association the Rovers club put in affidavits to the effect that there was no stone-throwing within at least 200 yards of Ewood Park, and as far as they knew nothing of the kind took place at that distance. The club were honorably acquitted, the commission dismissing the appeal and holding that no blame attached to the Rovers committee. They suggested, however, that it would have been more prudent if protection had been provided for the Burnley team until they reached the town. As the complainants had asked not for a penalty, but for a ruling on the subject, they were equally satisfied with the decision. Arte et labore[/p][/quote]What is the point of this post.[/p][/quote]Lost on you, obviously ! Road Runner Road Runner
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1:25pm Mon 21 Jan 13

blackburnsoutherner says...

A Darener wrote:
“They don’t get any tougher than Brighton because of the way we play. They are a very, very good footballing side, they probably pass the ball more than any other team in the division."

Because of the way "WE play" I think he meant they play? But Freudian slip or not he is certainly right!
No he meant what he said how WE PLAY in idiot terms Brighton are a good yeam because we can play for sh!t at the moment!!!! They pass and we cant
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: “They don’t get any tougher than Brighton because of the way we play. They are a very, very good footballing side, they probably pass the ball more than any other team in the division." Because of the way "WE play" I think he meant they play? But Freudian slip or not he is certainly right![/p][/quote]No he meant what he said how WE PLAY in idiot terms Brighton are a good yeam because we can play for sh!t at the moment!!!! They pass and we cant blackburnsoutherner
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1:32pm Mon 21 Jan 13

eddie the eagle says...

Lets lay one thing to rest, the present squad was assembled by Kean,we know there was interference from other sources most of who he was compliant with.
We are led to believe that until then he was happy running the team his way.therefore it was keans unbalanced unfit squad we are left with today.he also bought the backing of players by improving contracts where termination would have made more sense.
The players did not play for berg but raised thir game for bowyer because they new he was not going to interfere with their retirement home and it served to make Berg look worse than he was..
There used to be managers like TommY Doc and Souness who stormed in and made life very uncomfrtable for the type of slackers we have today.
lets hope Appleton fits that mould and identifys the dross and slackers and moves them on quick.
Lets lay one thing to rest, the present squad was assembled by Kean,we know there was interference from other sources most of who he was compliant with. We are led to believe that until then he was happy running the team his way.therefore it was keans unbalanced unfit squad we are left with today.he also bought the backing of players by improving contracts where termination would have made more sense. The players did not play for berg but raised thir game for bowyer because they new he was not going to interfere with their retirement home and it served to make Berg look worse than he was.. There used to be managers like TommY Doc and Souness who stormed in and made life very uncomfrtable for the type of slackers we have today. lets hope Appleton fits that mould and identifys the dross and slackers and moves them on quick. eddie the eagle
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1:32pm Mon 21 Jan 13

moh says...

crankitup wrote:
Can I just say to the venkys .....welcome Blackburn and glad they got to see snow for the first time.
thats scuppered the transfer money now.
[quote][p][bold]crankitup[/bold] wrote: Can I just say to the venkys .....welcome Blackburn and glad they got to see snow for the first time.[/p][/quote]thats scuppered the transfer money now. moh
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1:34pm Mon 21 Jan 13

jgb12348 says...

Hendry on 8k a week !!!!!!!! shameful.
Would barely pay his outstanding debts,would be better spent on fitness machines,my god do they need it !!!!
ALL OF THEM.
Hendry on 8k a week !!!!!!!! shameful. Would barely pay his outstanding debts,would be better spent on fitness machines,my god do they need it !!!! ALL OF THEM. jgb12348
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1:38pm Mon 21 Jan 13

LittleRonnieHildersley says...

eddie the eagle wrote:
Lets lay one thing to rest, the present squad was assembled by Kean,we know there was interference from other sources most of who he was compliant with.
We are led to believe that until then he was happy running the team his way.therefore it was keans unbalanced unfit squad we are left with today.he also bought the backing of players by improving contracts where termination would have made more sense.
The players did not play for berg but raised thir game for bowyer because they new he was not going to interfere with their retirement home and it served to make Berg look worse than he was..
There used to be managers like TommY Doc and Souness who stormed in and made life very uncomfrtable for the type of slackers we have today.
lets hope Appleton fits that mould and identifys the dross and slackers and moves them on quick.
Good post.
[quote][p][bold]eddie the eagle[/bold] wrote: Lets lay one thing to rest, the present squad was assembled by Kean,we know there was interference from other sources most of who he was compliant with. We are led to believe that until then he was happy running the team his way.therefore it was keans unbalanced unfit squad we are left with today.he also bought the backing of players by improving contracts where termination would have made more sense. The players did not play for berg but raised thir game for bowyer because they new he was not going to interfere with their retirement home and it served to make Berg look worse than he was.. There used to be managers like TommY Doc and Souness who stormed in and made life very uncomfrtable for the type of slackers we have today. lets hope Appleton fits that mould and identifys the dross and slackers and moves them on quick.[/p][/quote]Good post. LittleRonnieHildersley
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1:41pm Mon 21 Jan 13

To.guy says...

mark anthony wrote:
check out youtube venkys getting pellted with snowballs or daily mirror online
check out Patrice Evra getting pelted by Spurs fans during a game. Move on and get back to the football
[quote][p][bold]mark anthony[/bold] wrote: check out youtube venkys getting pellted with snowballs or daily mirror online[/p][/quote]check out Patrice Evra getting pelted by Spurs fans during a game. Move on and get back to the football To.guy
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1:41pm Mon 21 Jan 13

moh says...

Riverside 7 wrote:
unclejacklegend wrote:
Riverside 7 wrote: Well lets start with clearing out the deadwood at the club and make way for new recruits and our own youngsters. Givet - I used to like his enthusiasm and commitment but after his 2 fall outs with Kean and his heart problems he dosn't seem to be the same player. He has not been first choice for our last 3 managers - Berg, Bowyer & now Appleton and he must be on big wages. SELL Dunn - Whilst he is a true Rovers fan, we must not let this overshadow the fact that he simply does not play enough games. He has made just 6 appearances out of 29 games this season. I have seen players recover from cruciate ligament injuries quicker that Dunn does from a calf strain. PAY UP HIS CONTRACT - RELEASE Formica - he is not even a regular in the Championship. Kean/JA paid £3.5M for him. We would be lucky to get £1M for him. Neverthelss - SELL Portuguese contingent - of the 6 players that Shebby signed from Portugal, only Fabio Nunes has showed that he has a chance of making it in England. Most of the Portuguese players have not featured, especially since the colder weather started in November. Gomes was a classy player and after a bright start to the season he is certainly not justifying the huge wages he is on. SELL / RELEASE Etuhu - unless Appleton can find a way for him to play along side Murphy (I believe that he has already spoken to Roy Hodgson about this) then he should also go. He is another on big wages and has not impressed. SELL Robinson - how does a 33 year old professional sportsman become so overweight. Answer - lack of commitment. SELL Olsson - over-rated as a full back. In my opinion, his best position is left side of midfield. If we can get over £4M for him - SELL Dann - has certainly been a big disappointment since his arrival for around £6M. He makes too many mistakes. If we can get over £4M I would SELL. Slew - I understand that he is now back at the club but he has hardly featured in the first team squad. Bought by Kean as one for the future! SELL I am sure that I have missed quite a few out, but it shows the size of the task that Appleton now has. Good luck. You are going to need it.
Hanley - not quick enough, doesn't win enough headers for a CB and panics with the ball, poor positionally due to lack of experience and no good looking to dann for inspiration. Fine as backup as under allardyce but not good enough for first string yet. Murphy - lazy, slow, uninspiring (especially for a captain) doesn't lead by example, poor distribution, massive wages. A handful of acceptable at best performances in a rovers shirt. Kazim Richards - trips over his bottom lip when asked to play wide rather than up front, arrogant, only chases down and puts effort in when he sees fit. spends 90% of the game strutting around like he runs the place. Decent when he can be bothered but poor all day Saturday apart from 10 mins after half time. Lowe- 2 or 3 cracking long balls and works hard but generally not gifted enough for a team which is supposed to be chasing promotion. Big job on for Appleton.
Agree with unclejackledgend and also with Mike55's comments. However I did say that I was sure that I had missed a few players out. In addition;- Vukcevic missed a golden oportunity to stake a place in the team on Saturday. His he really up for the fight? Rochina - lots of skill but is he improving enough? He was another who was awful on Saturday. If Dunn is isn't even injured as one poster has mentioned today - what the hell is going on? Why are we still paying him around £30K per week. His contract expires in June 2013. Finally - I am still waiting for 1952Rover to let me know Shebby's new email address. Amazingly 1952Rover can decline meetings with Shebby whilst the rest of us cannot communicate with him.
Shebby Singh appears to have been sidelined, you probably need Shaw and Agnews Email for info. as they appear to be calling the shots.
[quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]unclejacklegend[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote: Well lets start with clearing out the deadwood at the club and make way for new recruits and our own youngsters. Givet - I used to like his enthusiasm and commitment but after his 2 fall outs with Kean and his heart problems he dosn't seem to be the same player. He has not been first choice for our last 3 managers - Berg, Bowyer & now Appleton and he must be on big wages. SELL Dunn - Whilst he is a true Rovers fan, we must not let this overshadow the fact that he simply does not play enough games. He has made just 6 appearances out of 29 games this season. I have seen players recover from cruciate ligament injuries quicker that Dunn does from a calf strain. PAY UP HIS CONTRACT - RELEASE Formica - he is not even a regular in the Championship. Kean/JA paid £3.5M for him. We would be lucky to get £1M for him. Neverthelss - SELL Portuguese contingent - of the 6 players that Shebby signed from Portugal, only Fabio Nunes has showed that he has a chance of making it in England. Most of the Portuguese players have not featured, especially since the colder weather started in November. Gomes was a classy player and after a bright start to the season he is certainly not justifying the huge wages he is on. SELL / RELEASE Etuhu - unless Appleton can find a way for him to play along side Murphy (I believe that he has already spoken to Roy Hodgson about this) then he should also go. He is another on big wages and has not impressed. SELL Robinson - how does a 33 year old professional sportsman become so overweight. Answer - lack of commitment. SELL Olsson - over-rated as a full back. In my opinion, his best position is left side of midfield. If we can get over £4M for him - SELL Dann - has certainly been a big disappointment since his arrival for around £6M. He makes too many mistakes. If we can get over £4M I would SELL. Slew - I understand that he is now back at the club but he has hardly featured in the first team squad. Bought by Kean as one for the future! SELL I am sure that I have missed quite a few out, but it shows the size of the task that Appleton now has. Good luck. You are going to need it.[/p][/quote]Hanley - not quick enough, doesn't win enough headers for a CB and panics with the ball, poor positionally due to lack of experience and no good looking to dann for inspiration. Fine as backup as under allardyce but not good enough for first string yet. Murphy - lazy, slow, uninspiring (especially for a captain) doesn't lead by example, poor distribution, massive wages. A handful of acceptable at best performances in a rovers shirt. Kazim Richards - trips over his bottom lip when asked to play wide rather than up front, arrogant, only chases down and puts effort in when he sees fit. spends 90% of the game strutting around like he runs the place. Decent when he can be bothered but poor all day Saturday apart from 10 mins after half time. Lowe- 2 or 3 cracking long balls and works hard but generally not gifted enough for a team which is supposed to be chasing promotion. Big job on for Appleton.[/p][/quote]Agree with unclejackledgend and also with Mike55's comments. However I did say that I was sure that I had missed a few players out. In addition;- Vukcevic missed a golden oportunity to stake a place in the team on Saturday. His he really up for the fight? Rochina - lots of skill but is he improving enough? He was another who was awful on Saturday. If Dunn is isn't even injured as one poster has mentioned today - what the hell is going on? Why are we still paying him around £30K per week. His contract expires in June 2013. Finally - I am still waiting for 1952Rover to let me know Shebby's new email address. Amazingly 1952Rover can decline meetings with Shebby whilst the rest of us cannot communicate with him.[/p][/quote]Shebby Singh appears to have been sidelined, you probably need Shaw and Agnews Email for info. as they appear to be calling the shots. moh
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1:44pm Mon 21 Jan 13

RespectTheK-Dog says...

So Appleton wants "fresh faces" does he ?

Is Colin Hendry's face not fragrant enough for his liking?

If I was big Colin (aka "the Orc") I'd be taking that comment very personally indeed. He should be asking for showdown talks after that comment. I mean it's not as if Appleton is Brad Pitt, is it?
So Appleton wants "fresh faces" does he ? Is Colin Hendry's face not fragrant enough for his liking? If I was big Colin (aka "the Orc") I'd be taking that comment very personally indeed. He should be asking for showdown talks after that comment. I mean it's not as if Appleton is Brad Pitt, is it? RespectTheK-Dog
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1:45pm Mon 21 Jan 13

To.guy says...

eddie the eagle wrote:
Lets lay one thing to rest, the present squad was assembled by Kean,we know there was interference from other sources most of who he was compliant with.
We are led to believe that until then he was happy running the team his way.therefore it was keans unbalanced unfit squad we are left with today.he also bought the backing of players by improving contracts where termination would have made more sense.
The players did not play for berg but raised thir game for bowyer because they new he was not going to interfere with their retirement home and it served to make Berg look worse than he was..
There used to be managers like TommY Doc and Souness who stormed in and made life very uncomfrtable for the type of slackers we have today.
lets hope Appleton fits that mould and identifys the dross and slackers and moves them on quick.
What I'd give for Graeme Souness right now. I think we underestimate the impact of Steve Kean. He had his slimy little hands on our club for a long time and far from 'doing well' as many other fans tell us, he led the club to relegation, to divisions and to an unfit squad. His short flurry in the championship wouldnt have lasted. Appleton hasnt really said anything different to any other manager so I'm not getting excited. It will depend on what action there is. If there isnt any we will know he has the same restrictions and the previous people.He will have to be a very strong man to stand his ground with those around him and with some of the players. Managing people is the hardest part if any job. I hope he is up to it.
[quote][p][bold]eddie the eagle[/bold] wrote: Lets lay one thing to rest, the present squad was assembled by Kean,we know there was interference from other sources most of who he was compliant with. We are led to believe that until then he was happy running the team his way.therefore it was keans unbalanced unfit squad we are left with today.he also bought the backing of players by improving contracts where termination would have made more sense. The players did not play for berg but raised thir game for bowyer because they new he was not going to interfere with their retirement home and it served to make Berg look worse than he was.. There used to be managers like TommY Doc and Souness who stormed in and made life very uncomfrtable for the type of slackers we have today. lets hope Appleton fits that mould and identifys the dross and slackers and moves them on quick.[/p][/quote]What I'd give for Graeme Souness right now. I think we underestimate the impact of Steve Kean. He had his slimy little hands on our club for a long time and far from 'doing well' as many other fans tell us, he led the club to relegation, to divisions and to an unfit squad. His short flurry in the championship wouldnt have lasted. Appleton hasnt really said anything different to any other manager so I'm not getting excited. It will depend on what action there is. If there isnt any we will know he has the same restrictions and the previous people.He will have to be a very strong man to stand his ground with those around him and with some of the players. Managing people is the hardest part if any job. I hope he is up to it. To.guy
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1:46pm Mon 21 Jan 13

hugofakenham says...

A Darener wrote:
fanny_tickler. wrote:
RoversMCMLXXV wrote:
fanny_tickler. wrote: What a joke of a club. Classless supporters pelting the owners with snowballs.. Venky's are keeping you afloat, they have taken you on when no one else wanted you and the Walker Trust wanted shut asap, they have taken on your debt, invested £8M in a single player, manage a large wage bill, and have to put up with the worst set of supporters in the country demanding the sacking of anyone and everyone on a daily basis. If Venky's were to pull out, which wealthy investor is waiting in the wings ready to take on the shambles that is Blackburn Rovers? You may hate the Venky's but you're also completely dependent upon them.
Just like your dependent on Rovers to keep up this strange infatuation you appear to have. There really isn't much going on in Bonleh village is there? Before you post your poison, have a think about the catalogue of shameful events surrounding your gobsh1te supporters and poxy cardboard club over the years.
Apologies - "A SECTION of classless supporters pelting the owners with snowballs." Yes, all quiet on the Claret front, just a third straight league win with no goals conceded for the one-man poxy, cardboard team that is Burnley.
To all Burnley fans on these pages, enjoy it while you can. It will not last.
nothing lasts forever as you lot are now underlining.
never laughed so long and so loud for years.
keep it coming
Charlie Cairolli's Rovers ............lighting up the football world (for all the wrong reasons)

UTC
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fanny_tickler.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversMCMLXXV[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fanny_tickler.[/bold] wrote: What a joke of a club. Classless supporters pelting the owners with snowballs.. Venky's are keeping you afloat, they have taken you on when no one else wanted you and the Walker Trust wanted shut asap, they have taken on your debt, invested £8M in a single player, manage a large wage bill, and have to put up with the worst set of supporters in the country demanding the sacking of anyone and everyone on a daily basis. If Venky's were to pull out, which wealthy investor is waiting in the wings ready to take on the shambles that is Blackburn Rovers? You may hate the Venky's but you're also completely dependent upon them.[/p][/quote]Just like your dependent on Rovers to keep up this strange infatuation you appear to have. There really isn't much going on in Bonleh village is there? Before you post your poison, have a think about the catalogue of shameful events surrounding your gobsh1te supporters and poxy cardboard club over the years.[/p][/quote]Apologies - "A SECTION of classless supporters pelting the owners with snowballs." Yes, all quiet on the Claret front, just a third straight league win with no goals conceded for the one-man poxy, cardboard team that is Burnley.[/p][/quote]To all Burnley fans on these pages, enjoy it while you can. It will not last.[/p][/quote]nothing lasts forever as you lot are now underlining. never laughed so long and so loud for years. keep it coming Charlie Cairolli's Rovers ............lighting up the football world (for all the wrong reasons) UTC hugofakenham
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1:53pm Mon 21 Jan 13

benal13 says...

ChrisDeBerg wrote:
Does anyone else not think if Pat Nevin got a tan and grew a tash that he would be shebby singh?

RTID
no sometimes nevin talks sense !!!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]ChrisDeBerg[/bold] wrote: Does anyone else not think if Pat Nevin got a tan and grew a tash that he would be shebby singh? RTID[/p][/quote]no sometimes nevin talks sense !!!!!!!!!! benal13
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1:55pm Mon 21 Jan 13

To.guy says...

With regard to Dunn, I believe when Shebby said on radio that he was injured, an anonymous person rang in to say that wasnt true (probably Dunn or his granddad). I also saw Salgado on twitter talking about his situation with contracts at Rovers and about Robinson so could be both Dunn and Robinson are in the situation Salgado, Nelsen, Roberts were in. If that's true it means nothing has changed. Some on here say Dunny is past it now but how do we know? He hasnt been allowed to play and I cant truly say he is worse than the dross we have in that midfield at the moment and at least he wants Rovers to do well.
With regard to Dunn, I believe when Shebby said on radio that he was injured, an anonymous person rang in to say that wasnt true (probably Dunn or his granddad). I also saw Salgado on twitter talking about his situation with contracts at Rovers and about Robinson so could be both Dunn and Robinson are in the situation Salgado, Nelsen, Roberts were in. If that's true it means nothing has changed. Some on here say Dunny is past it now but how do we know? He hasnt been allowed to play and I cant truly say he is worse than the dross we have in that midfield at the moment and at least he wants Rovers to do well. To.guy
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1:57pm Mon 21 Jan 13

To.guy says...

hugofakenham wrote:
A Darener wrote:
fanny_tickler. wrote:
RoversMCMLXXV wrote:
fanny_tickler. wrote: What a joke of a club. Classless supporters pelting the owners with snowballs.. Venky's are keeping you afloat, they have taken you on when no one else wanted you and the Walker Trust wanted shut asap, they have taken on your debt, invested £8M in a single player, manage a large wage bill, and have to put up with the worst set of supporters in the country demanding the sacking of anyone and everyone on a daily basis. If Venky's were to pull out, which wealthy investor is waiting in the wings ready to take on the shambles that is Blackburn Rovers? You may hate the Venky's but you're also completely dependent upon them.
Just like your dependent on Rovers to keep up this strange infatuation you appear to have. There really isn't much going on in Bonleh village is there? Before you post your poison, have a think about the catalogue of shameful events surrounding your gobsh1te supporters and poxy cardboard club over the years.
Apologies - "A SECTION of classless supporters pelting the owners with snowballs." Yes, all quiet on the Claret front, just a third straight league win with no goals conceded for the one-man poxy, cardboard team that is Burnley.
To all Burnley fans on these pages, enjoy it while you can. It will not last.
nothing lasts forever as you lot are now underlining.
never laughed so long and so loud for years.
keep it coming
Charlie Cairolli's Rovers ............lighting up the football world (for all the wrong reasons)

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Hey tickler, sit down and think back to the appalling treatment of owen coyle when he returned to Turf Moor. Had to walk across the pitch with ape like men and women shouting vile abuse towards him, gesturing like zulus. It was sickening. Also look back and read your fellow fans posts. Classless? A term you use a lot and for good reason. You are class-less, clueless, brainless and have a short memory.
[quote][p][bold]hugofakenham[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fanny_tickler.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversMCMLXXV[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fanny_tickler.[/bold] wrote: What a joke of a club. Classless supporters pelting the owners with snowballs.. Venky's are keeping you afloat, they have taken you on when no one else wanted you and the Walker Trust wanted shut asap, they have taken on your debt, invested £8M in a single player, manage a large wage bill, and have to put up with the worst set of supporters in the country demanding the sacking of anyone and everyone on a daily basis. If Venky's were to pull out, which wealthy investor is waiting in the wings ready to take on the shambles that is Blackburn Rovers? You may hate the Venky's but you're also completely dependent upon them.[/p][/quote]Just like your dependent on Rovers to keep up this strange infatuation you appear to have. There really isn't much going on in Bonleh village is there? Before you post your poison, have a think about the catalogue of shameful events surrounding your gobsh1te supporters and poxy cardboard club over the years.[/p][/quote]Apologies - "A SECTION of classless supporters pelting the owners with snowballs." Yes, all quiet on the Claret front, just a third straight league win with no goals conceded for the one-man poxy, cardboard team that is Burnley.[/p][/quote]To all Burnley fans on these pages, enjoy it while you can. It will not last.[/p][/quote]nothing lasts forever as you lot are now underlining. never laughed so long and so loud for years. keep it coming Charlie Cairolli's Rovers ............lighting up the football world (for all the wrong reasons) UTC[/p][/quote]Hey tickler, sit down and think back to the appalling treatment of owen coyle when he returned to Turf Moor. Had to walk across the pitch with ape like men and women shouting vile abuse towards him, gesturing like zulus. It was sickening. Also look back and read your fellow fans posts. Classless? A term you use a lot and for good reason. You are class-less, clueless, brainless and have a short memory. To.guy
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2:12pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Venkys Go Away says...

So now not all do we have a manager who has managed a team that was in administration and looking like its on its way out of the football league... And now we are getting Portsmouth staff?


Fans that say Michael Appleton wasn't drafted in due to his experience of administration are totally delusional...

..... We where promised experience.... And venkys delivered - they didn't say what type of experience....

.... So what's the next step now then?

Well any fan that moans about venkys yet lines their pockets are no better than the people ruining our once great club!

You moan and whinge yet pay then to do this?
So now not all do we have a manager who has managed a team that was in administration and looking like its on its way out of the football league... And now we are getting Portsmouth staff? Fans that say Michael Appleton wasn't drafted in due to his experience of administration are totally delusional... ..... We where promised experience.... And venkys delivered - they didn't say what type of experience.... .... So what's the next step now then? Well any fan that moans about venkys yet lines their pockets are no better than the people ruining our once great club! You moan and whinge yet pay then to do this? Venkys Go Away
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2:22pm Mon 21 Jan 13

BRFC75 says...

jgb12348 wrote:
Hendry on 8k a week !!!!!!!! shameful.
Would barely pay his outstanding debts,would be better spent on fitness machines,my god do they need it !!!!
ALL OF THEM.
C`mon You don`t expect HENDRY to pay his debts he CAN`T afford it ! HE SAID that himself.

HENDRY a genuine man ? a legend ? is he helping Rovers right now or is he anothet on the gravy train ? milking the club ?

Some facts .

Hendry has got a 2 Million Pound Pension POT , he rents a 1 million pound house ,makes 8,000 pounds a week at Rovers , his kids go to the most expensive private schools etc. etc. but still he cannot pay one pound back to his 2.2 million pounds of creditors he owes ,particularly to all the small people he owes, all the hard working decent people that loaned him money on the strength ,of waht was later found out as lies, to try and help the ingrate , all the tradesmen etc he still owes thousand to ,and simply because he went to court and some majistrate in Blackpool said O.K your bankrupt now ,you don`t have to pay any of these people back the money they loaned you , the stupid ar5e thinks he does not owe anymore ,but now he is back living the high life.
[quote][p][bold]jgb12348[/bold] wrote: Hendry on 8k a week !!!!!!!! shameful. Would barely pay his outstanding debts,would be better spent on fitness machines,my god do they need it !!!! ALL OF THEM.[/p][/quote]C`mon You don`t expect HENDRY to pay his debts he CAN`T afford it ! HE SAID that himself. HENDRY a genuine man ? a legend ? is he helping Rovers right now or is he anothet on the gravy train ? milking the club ? Some facts . Hendry has got a 2 Million Pound Pension POT , he rents a 1 million pound house ,makes 8,000 pounds a week at Rovers , his kids go to the most expensive private schools etc. etc. but still he cannot pay one pound back to his 2.2 million pounds of creditors he owes ,particularly to all the small people he owes, all the hard working decent people that loaned him money on the strength ,of waht was later found out as lies, to try and help the ingrate , all the tradesmen etc he still owes thousand to ,and simply because he went to court and some majistrate in Blackpool said O.K your bankrupt now ,you don`t have to pay any of these people back the money they loaned you , the stupid ar5e thinks he does not owe anymore ,but now he is back living the high life. BRFC75
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2:23pm Mon 21 Jan 13

leitchy says...

A Darener wrote:
They have gone for Portmouth staff because they are experienced...not in football matters but in the ins and outs of avoiding bankruptcy.
Or perhaps Appleton just knows the coaches from his past and want to work with them again !!
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: They have gone for Portmouth staff because they are experienced...not in football matters but in the ins and outs of avoiding bankruptcy.[/p][/quote]Or perhaps Appleton just knows the coaches from his past and want to work with them again !! leitchy
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2:28pm Mon 21 Jan 13

leitchy says...

fanny_tickler. wrote:
What a joke of a club. Classless supporters pelting the owners with snowballs.. Venky's are keeping you afloat, they have taken you on when no one else wanted you and the Walker Trust wanted shut asap, they have taken on your debt, invested £8M in a single player, manage a large wage bill, and have to put up with the worst set of supporters in the country demanding the sacking of anyone and everyone on a daily basis. If Venky's were to pull out, which wealthy investor is waiting in the wings ready to take on the shambles that is Blackburn Rovers? You may hate the Venky's but you're also completely dependent upon them.
Well said....agreed with every word, apart from wanting every manager out !
Venks have invested....so like them or not...without them we r nothing.

Nobody wanted us when we where a well run club.....so who would want us now??
[quote][p][bold]fanny_tickler.[/bold] wrote: What a joke of a club. Classless supporters pelting the owners with snowballs.. Venky's are keeping you afloat, they have taken you on when no one else wanted you and the Walker Trust wanted shut asap, they have taken on your debt, invested £8M in a single player, manage a large wage bill, and have to put up with the worst set of supporters in the country demanding the sacking of anyone and everyone on a daily basis. If Venky's were to pull out, which wealthy investor is waiting in the wings ready to take on the shambles that is Blackburn Rovers? You may hate the Venky's but you're also completely dependent upon them.[/p][/quote]Well said....agreed with every word, apart from wanting every manager out ! Venks have invested....so like them or not...without them we r nothing. Nobody wanted us when we where a well run club.....so who would want us now?? leitchy
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2:37pm Mon 21 Jan 13

glp says...

“I am sure there are going to be times over the coming weeks and months where we really enjoy what we are seeing and doing."
Hope you are right Mr Appleton as that will be the first time anybody can say that in the 2 years existance of Venkys Blackburn Rovers.
The major problem I see for the club is if you get rid of the useless squad of players what standard of player will be attracted to join this awful Circus the club as become. I have a feeling the replacement players will be no different or better to ones currently employed (a depressing thought!!!).
In my opinion that is the sad state of affairs 2 years of clueless and inept ownership by the chicken farmers as brought our once wonderful club down too
“I am sure there are going to be times over the coming weeks and months where we really enjoy what we are seeing and doing." Hope you are right Mr Appleton as that will be the first time anybody can say that in the 2 years existance of Venkys Blackburn Rovers. The major problem I see for the club is if you get rid of the useless squad of players what standard of player will be attracted to join this awful Circus the club as become. I have a feeling the replacement players will be no different or better to ones currently employed (a depressing thought!!!). In my opinion that is the sad state of affairs 2 years of clueless and inept ownership by the chicken farmers as brought our once wonderful club down too glp
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2:41pm Mon 21 Jan 13

benal13 says...

leitchy wrote:
A Darener wrote:
They have gone for Portmouth staff because they are experienced...not in football matters but in the ins and outs of avoiding bankruptcy.
Or perhaps Appleton just knows the coaches from his past and want to work with them again !!
no i think they got appleton because he knows the addminestrators that dealt with pompey, just looking to the future as shaw says
[quote][p][bold]leitchy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: They have gone for Portmouth staff because they are experienced...not in football matters but in the ins and outs of avoiding bankruptcy.[/p][/quote]Or perhaps Appleton just knows the coaches from his past and want to work with them again !![/p][/quote]no i think they got appleton because he knows the addminestrators that dealt with pompey, just looking to the future as shaw says benal13
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2:43pm Mon 21 Jan 13

unclejacklegend says...

Will P wrote:
unclejacklegend wrote:
Riverside 7 wrote:
Well lets start with clearing out the deadwood at the club and make way for new recruits and our own youngsters.

Givet - I used to like his enthusiasm and commitment but after his 2 fall outs with Kean and his heart problems he dosn't seem to be the same player.
He has not been first choice for our last 3 managers - Berg, Bowyer & now Appleton and he must be on big wages. SELL

Dunn - Whilst he is a true Rovers fan, we must not let this overshadow the fact that he simply does not play enough games. He has made just 6 appearances out of 29 games this season. I have seen players recover from cruciate ligament injuries quicker that Dunn does from a calf strain. PAY UP HIS CONTRACT - RELEASE

Formica - he is not even a regular in the Championship. Kean/JA paid £3.5M for him. We would be lucky to get £1M for him. Neverthelss - SELL

Portuguese contingent - of the 6 players that Shebby signed from Portugal, only Fabio Nunes has showed that he has a chance of making it in England.
Most of the Portuguese players have not featured, especially since the colder weather started in November.
Gomes was a classy player and after a bright start to the season he is certainly not justifying the huge wages he is on. SELL / RELEASE

Etuhu - unless Appleton can find a way for him to play along side Murphy (I believe that he has already spoken to Roy Hodgson about this) then he should also go. He is another on big wages and has not impressed.
SELL

Robinson - how does a 33 year old professional sportsman become so overweight. Answer - lack of commitment. SELL

Olsson - over-rated as a full back. In my opinion, his best position is left side of midfield. If we can get over £4M for him - SELL

Dann - has certainly been a big disappointment since his arrival for around £6M. He makes too many mistakes. If we can get over £4M I would SELL.

Slew - I understand that he is now back at the club but he has hardly featured in the first team squad. Bought by Kean as one for the future! SELL

I am sure that I have missed quite a few out, but it shows the size of the task that Appleton now has.

Good luck. You are going to need it.
Hanley - not quick enough, doesn't win enough headers for a CB and panics with the ball, poor positionally due to lack of experience and no good looking to dann for inspiration. Fine as backup as under allardyce but not good enough for first string yet.

Murphy - lazy, slow, uninspiring (especially for a captain) doesn't lead by example, poor distribution, massive wages. A handful of acceptable at best performances in a rovers shirt.

Kazim Richards - trips over his bottom lip when asked to play wide rather than up front, arrogant, only chases down and puts effort in when he sees fit.
spends 90% of the game strutting around like he runs the place. Decent when he can be bothered but poor all day Saturday apart from 10 mins after half time.

Lowe- 2 or 3 cracking long balls and works hard but generally not gifted enough for a team which is supposed to be chasing promotion.

Big job on for Appleton.
How about the following:-

1) Marlon King - free transfer, he can play alongside Rhodes in home games. This would be until Leon Best comes back, and in case Best's injury re-occurs.

2) Graham Dorrans - No clue but transfer listed. Can play as a left midfielder or as a central midfielder. Better work rate and passing than current central midfielders.

3) Alberto Botia - Centre back for Sevilla. Fringe player for their first team, but is a better player than what we currently have. Played alongside Rochina for Barcelona B team.

4) Albert Adomah - £1m (approx.). Winger for Bristol City, should really be playing football in the Premier League, hence Swansea wanting him.

5) Younousse Sankhare - Midfielder for Valenciennes in Ligue 1 of France. Played twice this season and was sold by PSG as soon as money bags came in.

Just some suggestions, I just think it shows that there are players out there, you just have to look hard. Swansea and Newcastle have become masters at it (I know they are PL but you know what i'm saying).
I don't know much about those players besides dorrans and king. All I do know is that we need grafters in this league and at present only Rhodes and 1 or 2 others are doing that. Poor sides are coming to ewood and leaving with points through nothing more than hard work and good organisation. Tippy tappy premier league cast offs like murphy Etuhu and dann aren't right for this league because they think they are better than they are and they can't deal with 10 players with no egos who will work solidly for 90mins.
[quote][p][bold]Will P[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]unclejacklegend[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote: Well lets start with clearing out the deadwood at the club and make way for new recruits and our own youngsters. Givet - I used to like his enthusiasm and commitment but after his 2 fall outs with Kean and his heart problems he dosn't seem to be the same player. He has not been first choice for our last 3 managers - Berg, Bowyer & now Appleton and he must be on big wages. SELL Dunn - Whilst he is a true Rovers fan, we must not let this overshadow the fact that he simply does not play enough games. He has made just 6 appearances out of 29 games this season. I have seen players recover from cruciate ligament injuries quicker that Dunn does from a calf strain. PAY UP HIS CONTRACT - RELEASE Formica - he is not even a regular in the Championship. Kean/JA paid £3.5M for him. We would be lucky to get £1M for him. Neverthelss - SELL Portuguese contingent - of the 6 players that Shebby signed from Portugal, only Fabio Nunes has showed that he has a chance of making it in England. Most of the Portuguese players have not featured, especially since the colder weather started in November. Gomes was a classy player and after a bright start to the season he is certainly not justifying the huge wages he is on. SELL / RELEASE Etuhu - unless Appleton can find a way for him to play along side Murphy (I believe that he has already spoken to Roy Hodgson about this) then he should also go. He is another on big wages and has not impressed. SELL Robinson - how does a 33 year old professional sportsman become so overweight. Answer - lack of commitment. SELL Olsson - over-rated as a full back. In my opinion, his best position is left side of midfield. If we can get over £4M for him - SELL Dann - has certainly been a big disappointment since his arrival for around £6M. He makes too many mistakes. If we can get over £4M I would SELL. Slew - I understand that he is now back at the club but he has hardly featured in the first team squad. Bought by Kean as one for the future! SELL I am sure that I have missed quite a few out, but it shows the size of the task that Appleton now has. Good luck. You are going to need it.[/p][/quote]Hanley - not quick enough, doesn't win enough headers for a CB and panics with the ball, poor positionally due to lack of experience and no good looking to dann for inspiration. Fine as backup as under allardyce but not good enough for first string yet. Murphy - lazy, slow, uninspiring (especially for a captain) doesn't lead by example, poor distribution, massive wages. A handful of acceptable at best performances in a rovers shirt. Kazim Richards - trips over his bottom lip when asked to play wide rather than up front, arrogant, only chases down and puts effort in when he sees fit. spends 90% of the game strutting around like he runs the place. Decent when he can be bothered but poor all day Saturday apart from 10 mins after half time. Lowe- 2 or 3 cracking long balls and works hard but generally not gifted enough for a team which is supposed to be chasing promotion. Big job on for Appleton.[/p][/quote]How about the following:- 1) Marlon King - free transfer, he can play alongside Rhodes in home games. This would be until Leon Best comes back, and in case Best's injury re-occurs. 2) Graham Dorrans - No clue but transfer listed. Can play as a left midfielder or as a central midfielder. Better work rate and passing than current central midfielders. 3) Alberto Botia - Centre back for Sevilla. Fringe player for their first team, but is a better player than what we currently have. Played alongside Rochina for Barcelona B team. 4) Albert Adomah - £1m (approx.). Winger for Bristol City, should really be playing football in the Premier League, hence Swansea wanting him. 5) Younousse Sankhare - Midfielder for Valenciennes in Ligue 1 of France. Played twice this season and was sold by PSG as soon as money bags came in. Just some suggestions, I just think it shows that there are players out there, you just have to look hard. Swansea and Newcastle have become masters at it (I know they are PL but you know what i'm saying).[/p][/quote]I don't know much about those players besides dorrans and king. All I do know is that we need grafters in this league and at present only Rhodes and 1 or 2 others are doing that. Poor sides are coming to ewood and leaving with points through nothing more than hard work and good organisation. Tippy tappy premier league cast offs like murphy Etuhu and dann aren't right for this league because they think they are better than they are and they can't deal with 10 players with no egos who will work solidly for 90mins. unclejacklegend
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2:48pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
LittleRonnieHildersl

ey
wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
1952 rover wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
RoversSwiss wrote:
If they don't say anything they are ignoring the fans, if they do say something it's a conspiracy!! Appleton has a very tough job with sub standard players, a job being made 100 times more difficult by the boo-boys. What he said is correct, although I cant share his optimism.
Well what are supporters to do when they are treated so shamefully by the owners for so long??????????????

Instead of pathetically constantly blaming your long suffering fellow supporters why don't you (just for once) blame the people who are actually to blame - THE OWNERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - if they stoped running the club into the ground and stoped treating the supporters like dirt then supporters wouldnt do what human beings do in that situation - which is complain and moan.
So why call Appleton then ?
I don't think I did call Appleton - read what I said again, I never mentioned his name
For me - Venkys dragging the club down and so are some of the supporters! I wouldn't to play in that atmosphere.....see also Newcastle at the weekend, fans started moaning - team lost.

The problem is that a lot of those moaning can't offer a constructive alternative - other than moaning, getting on the players backs etc A good solution would be Venky's giving a stake of the club to the Trust - a set up a bit like Swansea. The Trust would never be able to afford to run the club in prem or championship under curent models. Unless there is a sugar Daddy amongst the moaners then I don't se a lot of alternaives and I don't think booing, shouting abuse, chucking snowballs etc is going to help anyone.
I agree a sensible solution would be for Venkys to give up a stake of the club to the fans. It works at Swansea but up to now Venkys have shown that they 'don't do sensible.' It doesn't seem to be a word in their vocabulary.
Which fans would that be, the ones calling them scum or the ones pelting them with snowballs, some of you guys are totally removed from reality if you think threatening their little girl is going to make them get round the table all cosey like.
What have you had for breakfast?
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LittleRonnieHildersl ey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1952 rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversSwiss[/bold] wrote: If they don't say anything they are ignoring the fans, if they do say something it's a conspiracy!! Appleton has a very tough job with sub standard players, a job being made 100 times more difficult by the boo-boys. What he said is correct, although I cant share his optimism.[/p][/quote]Well what are supporters to do when they are treated so shamefully by the owners for so long?????????????? Instead of pathetically constantly blaming your long suffering fellow supporters why don't you (just for once) blame the people who are actually to blame - THE OWNERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - if they stoped running the club into the ground and stoped treating the supporters like dirt then supporters wouldnt do what human beings do in that situation - which is complain and moan.[/p][/quote]So why call Appleton then ?[/p][/quote]I don't think I did call Appleton - read what I said again, I never mentioned his name[/p][/quote]For me - Venkys dragging the club down and so are some of the supporters! I wouldn't to play in that atmosphere.....see also Newcastle at the weekend, fans started moaning - team lost. The problem is that a lot of those moaning can't offer a constructive alternative - other than moaning, getting on the players backs etc A good solution would be Venky's giving a stake of the club to the Trust - a set up a bit like Swansea. The Trust would never be able to afford to run the club in prem or championship under curent models. Unless there is a sugar Daddy amongst the moaners then I don't se a lot of alternaives and I don't think booing, shouting abuse, chucking snowballs etc is going to help anyone.[/p][/quote]I agree a sensible solution would be for Venkys to give up a stake of the club to the fans. It works at Swansea but up to now Venkys have shown that they 'don't do sensible.' It doesn't seem to be a word in their vocabulary.[/p][/quote]Which fans would that be, the ones calling them scum or the ones pelting them with snowballs, some of you guys are totally removed from reality if you think threatening their little girl is going to make them get round the table all cosey like. What have you had for breakfast? Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder
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2:51pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Angry From Accrington says...

BRFC75 wrote:
jgb12348 wrote: Hendry on 8k a week !!!!!!!! shameful. Would barely pay his outstanding debts,would be better spent on fitness machines,my god do they need it !!!! ALL OF THEM.
C`mon You don`t expect HENDRY to pay his debts he CAN`T afford it ! HE SAID that himself. HENDRY a genuine man ? a legend ? is he helping Rovers right now or is he anothet on the gravy train ? milking the club ? Some facts . Hendry has got a 2 Million Pound Pension POT , he rents a 1 million pound house ,makes 8,000 pounds a week at Rovers , his kids go to the most expensive private schools etc. etc. but still he cannot pay one pound back to his 2.2 million pounds of creditors he owes ,particularly to all the small people he owes, all the hard working decent people that loaned him money on the strength ,of waht was later found out as lies, to try and help the ingrate , all the tradesmen etc he still owes thousand to ,and simply because he went to court and some majistrate in Blackpool said O.K your bankrupt now ,you don`t have to pay any of these people back the money they loaned you , the stupid ar5e thinks he does not owe anymore ,but now he is back living the high life.
He may be an arse but he doesnt seem that stupid to me!
[quote][p][bold]BRFC75[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jgb12348[/bold] wrote: Hendry on 8k a week !!!!!!!! shameful. Would barely pay his outstanding debts,would be better spent on fitness machines,my god do they need it !!!! ALL OF THEM.[/p][/quote]C`mon You don`t expect HENDRY to pay his debts he CAN`T afford it ! HE SAID that himself. HENDRY a genuine man ? a legend ? is he helping Rovers right now or is he anothet on the gravy train ? milking the club ? Some facts . Hendry has got a 2 Million Pound Pension POT , he rents a 1 million pound house ,makes 8,000 pounds a week at Rovers , his kids go to the most expensive private schools etc. etc. but still he cannot pay one pound back to his 2.2 million pounds of creditors he owes ,particularly to all the small people he owes, all the hard working decent people that loaned him money on the strength ,of waht was later found out as lies, to try and help the ingrate , all the tradesmen etc he still owes thousand to ,and simply because he went to court and some majistrate in Blackpool said O.K your bankrupt now ,you don`t have to pay any of these people back the money they loaned you , the stupid ar5e thinks he does not owe anymore ,but now he is back living the high life.[/p][/quote]He may be an arse but he doesnt seem that stupid to me! Angry From Accrington
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2:53pm Mon 21 Jan 13

A Darener says...

Well I don't think we will see the Venky's back any time soon!
Well I don't think we will see the Venky's back any time soon! A Darener
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2:54pm Mon 21 Jan 13

benal13 says...

a couple of weeks ago a lot of the fans were saying give bowyer the job when he was saying what a hard working squad we had all playing for each other ect , ect , ect god two weeks is a long time in football isnt it , but it dos prove once again that no one down at the circuse knows what they re talking about were doomed i tell you DOOMED!!!!!!
a couple of weeks ago a lot of the fans were saying give bowyer the job when he was saying what a hard working squad we had all playing for each other ect , ect , ect god two weeks is a long time in football isnt it , but it dos prove once again that no one down at the circuse knows what they re talking about were doomed i tell you DOOMED!!!!!! benal13
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2:58pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Will P says...

unclejacklegend wrote:
Will P wrote:
unclejacklegend wrote:
Riverside 7 wrote:
Well lets start with clearing out the deadwood at the club and make way for new recruits and our own youngsters.

Givet - I used to like his enthusiasm and commitment but after his 2 fall outs with Kean and his heart problems he dosn't seem to be the same player.
He has not been first choice for our last 3 managers - Berg, Bowyer & now Appleton and he must be on big wages. SELL

Dunn - Whilst he is a true Rovers fan, we must not let this overshadow the fact that he simply does not play enough games. He has made just 6 appearances out of 29 games this season. I have seen players recover from cruciate ligament injuries quicker that Dunn does from a calf strain. PAY UP HIS CONTRACT - RELEASE

Formica - he is not even a regular in the Championship. Kean/JA paid £3.5M for him. We would be lucky to get £1M for him. Neverthelss - SELL

Portuguese contingent - of the 6 players that Shebby signed from Portugal, only Fabio Nunes has showed that he has a chance of making it in England.
Most of the Portuguese players have not featured, especially since the colder weather started in November.
Gomes was a classy player and after a bright start to the season he is certainly not justifying the huge wages he is on. SELL / RELEASE

Etuhu - unless Appleton can find a way for him to play along side Murphy (I believe that he has already spoken to Roy Hodgson about this) then he should also go. He is another on big wages and has not impressed.
SELL

Robinson - how does a 33 year old professional sportsman become so overweight. Answer - lack of commitment. SELL

Olsson - over-rated as a full back. In my opinion, his best position is left side of midfield. If we can get over £4M for him - SELL

Dann - has certainly been a big disappointment since his arrival for around £6M. He makes too many mistakes. If we can get over £4M I would SELL.

Slew - I understand that he is now back at the club but he has hardly featured in the first team squad. Bought by Kean as one for the future! SELL

I am sure that I have missed quite a few out, but it shows the size of the task that Appleton now has.

Good luck. You are going to need it.
Hanley - not quick enough, doesn't win enough headers for a CB and panics with the ball, poor positionally due to lack of experience and no good looking to dann for inspiration. Fine as backup as under allardyce but not good enough for first string yet.

Murphy - lazy, slow, uninspiring (especially for a captain) doesn't lead by example, poor distribution, massive wages. A handful of acceptable at best performances in a rovers shirt.

Kazim Richards - trips over his bottom lip when asked to play wide rather than up front, arrogant, only chases down and puts effort in when he sees fit.
spends 90% of the game strutting around like he runs the place. Decent when he can be bothered but poor all day Saturday apart from 10 mins after half time.

Lowe- 2 or 3 cracking long balls and works hard but generally not gifted enough for a team which is supposed to be chasing promotion.

Big job on for Appleton.
How about the following:-

1) Marlon King - free transfer, he can play alongside Rhodes in home games. This would be until Leon Best comes back, and in case Best's injury re-occurs.

2) Graham Dorrans - No clue but transfer listed. Can play as a left midfielder or as a central midfielder. Better work rate and passing than current central midfielders.

3) Alberto Botia - Centre back for Sevilla. Fringe player for their first team, but is a better player than what we currently have. Played alongside Rochina for Barcelona B team.

4) Albert Adomah - £1m (approx.). Winger for Bristol City, should really be playing football in the Premier League, hence Swansea wanting him.

5) Younousse Sankhare - Midfielder for Valenciennes in Ligue 1 of France. Played twice this season and was sold by PSG as soon as money bags came in.

Just some suggestions, I just think it shows that there are players out there, you just have to look hard. Swansea and Newcastle have become masters at it (I know they are PL but you know what i'm saying).
I don't know much about those players besides dorrans and king. All I do know is that we need grafters in this league and at present only Rhodes and 1 or 2 others are doing that. Poor sides are coming to ewood and leaving with points through nothing more than hard work and good organisation. Tippy tappy premier league cast offs like murphy Etuhu and dann aren't right for this league because they think they are better than they are and they can't deal with 10 players with no egos who will work solidly for 90mins.
Agreed, we need to make our team more of a unit than what it is now. We do have some good players, but I do believe it's made harder when the older players are unsettled and unsettling the dressing room.

My suggestions were just examples of players in the positions which we lack the required quality and graft.

Undoubtedly Appleton has inherited a top finisher in Rhodes, how he has scored the amount he has scored with the quality of support is beyond me. He basically scores the one chance he gets per game.

I still think we need to sign two central midfielders, a centre back, a left back and a winger. Even an extra striker aka Marlon King would do no harm. The likely hood of this happening however, is very slim.
[quote][p][bold]unclejacklegend[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Will P[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]unclejacklegend[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote: Well lets start with clearing out the deadwood at the club and make way for new recruits and our own youngsters. Givet - I used to like his enthusiasm and commitment but after his 2 fall outs with Kean and his heart problems he dosn't seem to be the same player. He has not been first choice for our last 3 managers - Berg, Bowyer & now Appleton and he must be on big wages. SELL Dunn - Whilst he is a true Rovers fan, we must not let this overshadow the fact that he simply does not play enough games. He has made just 6 appearances out of 29 games this season. I have seen players recover from cruciate ligament injuries quicker that Dunn does from a calf strain. PAY UP HIS CONTRACT - RELEASE Formica - he is not even a regular in the Championship. Kean/JA paid £3.5M for him. We would be lucky to get £1M for him. Neverthelss - SELL Portuguese contingent - of the 6 players that Shebby signed from Portugal, only Fabio Nunes has showed that he has a chance of making it in England. Most of the Portuguese players have not featured, especially since the colder weather started in November. Gomes was a classy player and after a bright start to the season he is certainly not justifying the huge wages he is on. SELL / RELEASE Etuhu - unless Appleton can find a way for him to play along side Murphy (I believe that he has already spoken to Roy Hodgson about this) then he should also go. He is another on big wages and has not impressed. SELL Robinson - how does a 33 year old professional sportsman become so overweight. Answer - lack of commitment. SELL Olsson - over-rated as a full back. In my opinion, his best position is left side of midfield. If we can get over £4M for him - SELL Dann - has certainly been a big disappointment since his arrival for around £6M. He makes too many mistakes. If we can get over £4M I would SELL. Slew - I understand that he is now back at the club but he has hardly featured in the first team squad. Bought by Kean as one for the future! SELL I am sure that I have missed quite a few out, but it shows the size of the task that Appleton now has. Good luck. You are going to need it.[/p][/quote]Hanley - not quick enough, doesn't win enough headers for a CB and panics with the ball, poor positionally due to lack of experience and no good looking to dann for inspiration. Fine as backup as under allardyce but not good enough for first string yet. Murphy - lazy, slow, uninspiring (especially for a captain) doesn't lead by example, poor distribution, massive wages. A handful of acceptable at best performances in a rovers shirt. Kazim Richards - trips over his bottom lip when asked to play wide rather than up front, arrogant, only chases down and puts effort in when he sees fit. spends 90% of the game strutting around like he runs the place. Decent when he can be bothered but poor all day Saturday apart from 10 mins after half time. Lowe- 2 or 3 cracking long balls and works hard but generally not gifted enough for a team which is supposed to be chasing promotion. Big job on for Appleton.[/p][/quote]How about the following:- 1) Marlon King - free transfer, he can play alongside Rhodes in home games. This would be until Leon Best comes back, and in case Best's injury re-occurs. 2) Graham Dorrans - No clue but transfer listed. Can play as a left midfielder or as a central midfielder. Better work rate and passing than current central midfielders. 3) Alberto Botia - Centre back for Sevilla. Fringe player for their first team, but is a better player than what we currently have. Played alongside Rochina for Barcelona B team. 4) Albert Adomah - £1m (approx.). Winger for Bristol City, should really be playing football in the Premier League, hence Swansea wanting him. 5) Younousse Sankhare - Midfielder for Valenciennes in Ligue 1 of France. Played twice this season and was sold by PSG as soon as money bags came in. Just some suggestions, I just think it shows that there are players out there, you just have to look hard. Swansea and Newcastle have become masters at it (I know they are PL but you know what i'm saying).[/p][/quote]I don't know much about those players besides dorrans and king. All I do know is that we need grafters in this league and at present only Rhodes and 1 or 2 others are doing that. Poor sides are coming to ewood and leaving with points through nothing more than hard work and good organisation. Tippy tappy premier league cast offs like murphy Etuhu and dann aren't right for this league because they think they are better than they are and they can't deal with 10 players with no egos who will work solidly for 90mins.[/p][/quote]Agreed, we need to make our team more of a unit than what it is now. We do have some good players, but I do believe it's made harder when the older players are unsettled and unsettling the dressing room. My suggestions were just examples of players in the positions which we lack the required quality and graft. Undoubtedly Appleton has inherited a top finisher in Rhodes, how he has scored the amount he has scored with the quality of support is beyond me. He basically scores the one chance he gets per game. I still think we need to sign two central midfielders, a centre back, a left back and a winger. Even an extra striker aka Marlon King would do no harm. The likely hood of this happening however, is very slim. Will P
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3:18pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Riverside 7 says...

To.guy wrote:
With regard to Dunn, I believe when Shebby said on radio that he was injured, an anonymous person rang in to say that wasnt true (probably Dunn or his granddad). I also saw Salgado on twitter talking about his situation with contracts at Rovers and about Robinson so could be both Dunn and Robinson are in the situation Salgado, Nelsen, Roberts were in. If that's true it means nothing has changed. Some on here say Dunny is past it now but how do we know? He hasnt been allowed to play and I cant truly say he is worse than the dross we have in that midfield at the moment and at least he wants Rovers to do well.
So what is it then?

Is Dunn injured or can he not play due to contractual issues?

Either way the situation needs resolving asap.
He is on very high wages until June 2013 - for what?

Perhaps Andy Cryer can find out for us?

Personally, as a Rovers' fan - I would play for the club for free.
[quote][p][bold]To.guy[/bold] wrote: With regard to Dunn, I believe when Shebby said on radio that he was injured, an anonymous person rang in to say that wasnt true (probably Dunn or his granddad). I also saw Salgado on twitter talking about his situation with contracts at Rovers and about Robinson so could be both Dunn and Robinson are in the situation Salgado, Nelsen, Roberts were in. If that's true it means nothing has changed. Some on here say Dunny is past it now but how do we know? He hasnt been allowed to play and I cant truly say he is worse than the dross we have in that midfield at the moment and at least he wants Rovers to do well.[/p][/quote]So what is it then? Is Dunn injured or can he not play due to contractual issues? Either way the situation needs resolving asap. He is on very high wages until June 2013 - for what? Perhaps Andy Cryer can find out for us? Personally, as a Rovers' fan - I would play for the club for free. Riverside 7
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3:29pm Mon 21 Jan 13

benal13 says...

Riverside 7 wrote:
To.guy wrote:

With regard to Dunn, I believe when Shebby said on radio that he was injured, an anonymous person rang in to say that wasnt true (probably Dunn or his granddad). I also saw Salgado on twitter talking about his situation with contracts at Rovers and about Robinson so could be both Dunn and Robinson are in the situation Salgado, Nelsen, Roberts were in. If that's true it means nothing has changed. Some on here say Dunny is past it now but how do we know? He hasnt been allowed to play and I cant truly say he is worse than the dross we have in that midfield at the moment and at least he wants Rovers to do well.
So what is it then?

Is Dunn injured or can he not play due to contractual issues?

Either way the situation needs resolving asap.
He is on very high wages until June 2013 - for what?

Perhaps Andy Cryer can find out for us?

Personally, as a Rovers' fan - I would play for the club for free.
and who would pay the mortgage!!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]To.guy[/bold] wrote: With regard to Dunn, I believe when Shebby said on radio that he was injured, an anonymous person rang in to say that wasnt true (probably Dunn or his granddad). I also saw Salgado on twitter talking about his situation with contracts at Rovers and about Robinson so could be both Dunn and Robinson are in the situation Salgado, Nelsen, Roberts were in. If that's true it means nothing has changed. Some on here say Dunny is past it now but how do we know? He hasnt been allowed to play and I cant truly say he is worse than the dross we have in that midfield at the moment and at least he wants Rovers to do well.[/p][/quote]So what is it then? Is Dunn injured or can he not play due to contractual issues? Either way the situation needs resolving asap. He is on very high wages until June 2013 - for what? Perhaps Andy Cryer can find out for us? Personally, as a Rovers' fan - I would play for the club for free.[/p][/quote]and who would pay the mortgage!!!!!!!!! benal13
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4:06pm Mon 21 Jan 13

wolsty says...

burnleyglentoran wrote:
B*******d Rovers have announced that, on tuesday night, Shebby Singh will make the half draw.

The unlucky winner will be next months manager!

"Chumpionship" - Staying down 4eva!
tell me dingle,whats all these reports down south ? that your great striker could be on his way to bonny SCOTLAND playing for CELTIC,hope its true that way you lot will go to your pages and have a wee chat together have a nice day
[quote][p][bold]burnleyglentoran[/bold] wrote: B*******d Rovers have announced that, on tuesday night, Shebby Singh will make the half draw. The unlucky winner will be next months manager! "Chumpionship" - Staying down 4eva![/p][/quote]tell me dingle,whats all these reports down south ? that your great striker could be on his way to bonny SCOTLAND playing for CELTIC,hope its true that way you lot will go to your pages and have a wee chat together have a nice day wolsty
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4:17pm Mon 21 Jan 13

wolsty says...

burnleyglentoran wrote:
B*******d Rovers have announced that, on tuesday night, Shebby Singh will make the half draw.

The unlucky winner will be next months manager!

"Chumpionship" - Staying down 4eva!
tell me dingle,whats all these reports down south ? that your great striker could be on his way to bonny SCOTLAND playing for CELTIC,hope its true that way you lot will go to your pages and have a wee chat together have a nice day
[quote][p][bold]burnleyglentoran[/bold] wrote: B*******d Rovers have announced that, on tuesday night, Shebby Singh will make the half draw. The unlucky winner will be next months manager! "Chumpionship" - Staying down 4eva![/p][/quote]tell me dingle,whats all these reports down south ? that your great striker could be on his way to bonny SCOTLAND playing for CELTIC,hope its true that way you lot will go to your pages and have a wee chat together have a nice day wolsty
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4:18pm Mon 21 Jan 13

benal13 says...

bradley orr back after weekend from ipswich bet thats lifted the gloom round ewood!!!!!!!!!!!!
bradley orr back after weekend from ipswich bet thats lifted the gloom round ewood!!!!!!!!!!!! benal13
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4:20pm Mon 21 Jan 13

A Darener says...

benal13 wrote:
bradley orr back after weekend from ipswich bet thats lifted the gloom round ewood!!!!!!!!!!!!
Saved!
[quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: bradley orr back after weekend from ipswich bet thats lifted the gloom round ewood!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Saved! A Darener
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4:28pm Mon 21 Jan 13

bluebella says...

Rao tells us that Appleton has money to spend, then issue the cheque. One good striker is all thats needed of Zaha class to go staraight back up.

Let rao give the word to hijack Fergie's wanted player at £15M...Zaha

Chrystal Palace say there is no Fergie deal so lets do this...

HAHA!
Rao tells us that Appleton has money to spend, then issue the cheque. One good striker is all thats needed of Zaha class to go staraight back up. Let rao give the word to hijack Fergie's wanted player at £15M...Zaha Chrystal Palace say there is no Fergie deal so lets do this... HAHA! bluebella
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4:35pm Mon 21 Jan 13

noddymcleod says...

Wow, what a PR debut.
Venkys "We need your help to improve our image, you see Rovers were a well run club and the fans adored the benefactor, a local man made good he spent a personal fortune in making them a good team. We made all sorts of rash and premature promises that have rebounded on us and frankly the fans hate us. We need to sort things out, things are now dire, the board are squabbling and we've got ourselves a problem to turn up to see the first game of a new manager. What do you think we should do"
PR firm "Well, Blackburn is a low wage town and there's a recession on, money is tight, but the fans are loyal to the club thorugh thick and thin. So, why not hire a Rolls Royce, and if things go bad, leave the ground and head to a good hotel somewhere and forgot the whole horrible shambles"
Venkys. "Great advice, glad we hired you. Will you take a cheque ?"
Wow, what a PR debut. Venkys "We need your help to improve our image, you see Rovers were a well run club and the fans adored the benefactor, a local man made good he spent a personal fortune in making them a good team. We made all sorts of rash and premature promises that have rebounded on us and frankly the fans hate us. We need to sort things out, things are now dire, the board are squabbling and we've got ourselves a problem to turn up to see the first game of a new manager. What do you think we should do" PR firm "Well, Blackburn is a low wage town and there's a recession on, money is tight, but the fans are loyal to the club thorugh thick and thin. So, why not hire a Rolls Royce, and if things go bad, leave the ground and head to a good hotel somewhere and forgot the whole horrible shambles" Venkys. "Great advice, glad we hired you. Will you take a cheque ?" noddymcleod
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4:36pm Mon 21 Jan 13

dangerous dave says...

Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
LittleRonnieHildersl


ey
wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
1952 rover wrote:
J.C - Rishton wrote:
RoversSwiss wrote:
If they don't say anything they are ignoring the fans, if they do say something it's a conspiracy!! Appleton has a very tough job with sub standard players, a job being made 100 times more difficult by the boo-boys. What he said is correct, although I cant share his optimism.
Well what are supporters to do when they are treated so shamefully by the owners for so long??????????????

Instead of pathetically constantly blaming your long suffering fellow supporters why don't you (just for once) blame the people who are actually to blame - THE OWNERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - if they stoped running the club into the ground and stoped treating the supporters like dirt then supporters wouldnt do what human beings do in that situation - which is complain and moan.
So why call Appleton then ?
I don't think I did call Appleton - read what I said again, I never mentioned his name
For me - Venkys dragging the club down and so are some of the supporters! I wouldn't to play in that atmosphere.....see also Newcastle at the weekend, fans started moaning - team lost.

The problem is that a lot of those moaning can't offer a constructive alternative - other than moaning, getting on the players backs etc A good solution would be Venky's giving a stake of the club to the Trust - a set up a bit like Swansea. The Trust would never be able to afford to run the club in prem or championship under curent models. Unless there is a sugar Daddy amongst the moaners then I don't se a lot of alternaives and I don't think booing, shouting abuse, chucking snowballs etc is going to help anyone.
I agree a sensible solution would be for Venkys to give up a stake of the club to the fans. It works at Swansea but up to now Venkys have shown that they 'don't do sensible.' It doesn't seem to be a word in their vocabulary.
Which fans would that be, the ones calling them scum or the ones pelting them with snowballs, some of you guys are totally removed from reality if you think threatening their little girl is going to make them get round the table all cosey like.
What have you had for breakfast?
Jarrod - as I said before the Venkys didnt have to be clairvoyant to know that there would be demonstrations against their ownership - yet the stupid idiots put a little girl in the firing line - tells you that they are living in cuckoo land and wouldnt recognize ambition if it hit them in the face - the supporters can only take so much **** from these people and have every right to protest.
OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM!!
[quote][p][bold]Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LittleRonnieHildersl ey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1952 rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.C - Rishton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoversSwiss[/bold] wrote: If they don't say anything they are ignoring the fans, if they do say something it's a conspiracy!! Appleton has a very tough job with sub standard players, a job being made 100 times more difficult by the boo-boys. What he said is correct, although I cant share his optimism.[/p][/quote]Well what are supporters to do when they are treated so shamefully by the owners for so long?????????????? Instead of pathetically constantly blaming your long suffering fellow supporters why don't you (just for once) blame the people who are actually to blame - THE OWNERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - if they stoped running the club into the ground and stoped treating the supporters like dirt then supporters wouldnt do what human beings do in that situation - which is complain and moan.[/p][/quote]So why call Appleton then ?[/p][/quote]I don't think I did call Appleton - read what I said again, I never mentioned his name[/p][/quote]For me - Venkys dragging the club down and so are some of the supporters! I wouldn't to play in that atmosphere.....see also Newcastle at the weekend, fans started moaning - team lost. The problem is that a lot of those moaning can't offer a constructive alternative - other than moaning, getting on the players backs etc A good solution would be Venky's giving a stake of the club to the Trust - a set up a bit like Swansea. The Trust would never be able to afford to run the club in prem or championship under curent models. Unless there is a sugar Daddy amongst the moaners then I don't se a lot of alternaives and I don't think booing, shouting abuse, chucking snowballs etc is going to help anyone.[/p][/quote]I agree a sensible solution would be for Venkys to give up a stake of the club to the fans. It works at Swansea but up to now Venkys have shown that they 'don't do sensible.' It doesn't seem to be a word in their vocabulary.[/p][/quote]Which fans would that be, the ones calling them scum or the ones pelting them with snowballs, some of you guys are totally removed from reality if you think threatening their little girl is going to make them get round the table all cosey like. What have you had for breakfast?[/p][/quote]Jarrod - as I said before the Venkys didnt have to be clairvoyant to know that there would be demonstrations against their ownership - yet the stupid idiots put a little girl in the firing line - tells you that they are living in cuckoo land and wouldnt recognize ambition if it hit them in the face - the supporters can only take so much **** from these people and have every right to protest. OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM!! dangerous dave
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4:41pm Mon 21 Jan 13

A Darener says...

There is now no way back for the Venky's. they must realise after Saturday that they are not wanted. But to leave after 65 minutes was just to stick two fingers up to the fans. They are treating the fans with such disdain that even the lowest caste in India would not put up with them.
There is now no way back for the Venky's. they must realise after Saturday that they are not wanted. But to leave after 65 minutes was just to stick two fingers up to the fans. They are treating the fans with such disdain that even the lowest caste in India would not put up with them. A Darener
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4:51pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Joey99 says...

Several Website including BBC Sport report that Orr will be recalled.

But new boss Appleton is keen for him to return to Ewood Park, saying he will be like a "new signing" for the club. Steve Kean MKII anyone?
Several Website including BBC Sport report that Orr will be recalled. But new boss Appleton is keen for him to return to Ewood Park, saying he will be like a "new signing" for the club. Steve Kean MKII anyone? Joey99
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4:52pm Mon 21 Jan 13

A Darener says...

Joey99 wrote:
Several Website including BBC Sport report that Orr will be recalled.

But new boss Appleton is keen for him to return to Ewood Park, saying he will be like a "new signing" for the club. Steve Kean MKII anyone?
He will be like a new signing but unfortunately not a good one.
[quote][p][bold]Joey99[/bold] wrote: Several Website including BBC Sport report that Orr will be recalled. But new boss Appleton is keen for him to return to Ewood Park, saying he will be like a "new signing" for the club. Steve Kean MKII anyone?[/p][/quote]He will be like a new signing but unfortunately not a good one. A Darener
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4:59pm Mon 21 Jan 13

kfc yummy says...

Road Runner Road Runner wrote:
kfc yummy wrote:
Road Runner Road Runner wrote:
Researching our history, and handed this on Saturday by a long time fellow Rover I put forth this extract for your eye's only:

The first provincial team to win the Association Cup, in 1883, beating the Old Etonians 2 - 1, after an extra half hour, Mr. T. Hacking, who kept goal for them in that celebrated contest, again donned the jersey at Ewood Park in March, 1892, giving an exhibition that was a revelation to those who had not previously seen him in action.
At one time football partisans whose real zeal outran their discretion were in the habit of relieving their feelings bu pelting opponents with stones and mud. It was great sport while it lasted, though those foolish enough to indulge in it had scant regard for the trouble it might cause. For example, when Burnley were here in December, 1892, they complained of the liveliness of their journey to the railway station. They had lost an exciting match by 2-0. In the last few minutes the referee had found it necessary to order a player on each side to leave the field. Rightly or wrongly, a section of the crowd believed that the visitors were to blame for what had happened. As a sequel, Burnley alleged that they were bombarded with missiles as they drove in a wagonette along Bolton Road. Jack Hillman, their goalkeeper was reported to have been struck in the face by a stone, and the players generally were said to have had narrow escapes from injury.
When the matter was investigated by a commission of the Football Association the Rovers club put in affidavits to the effect that there was no stone-throwing within at least 200 yards of Ewood Park, and as far as they knew nothing of the kind took place at that distance. The club were honorably acquitted, the commission dismissing the appeal and holding that no blame attached to the Rovers committee. They suggested, however, that it would have been more prudent if protection had been provided for the Burnley team until they reached the town. As the complainants had asked not for a penalty, but for a ruling on the subject, they were equally satisfied with the decision.

Arte et labore
What is the point of this post.
Lost on you, obviously !
Just explain then.
[quote][p][bold]Road Runner Road Runner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kfc yummy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Road Runner Road Runner[/bold] wrote: Researching our history, and handed this on Saturday by a long time fellow Rover I put forth this extract for your eye's only: The first provincial team to win the Association Cup, in 1883, beating the Old Etonians 2 - 1, after an extra half hour, Mr. T. Hacking, who kept goal for them in that celebrated contest, again donned the jersey at Ewood Park in March, 1892, giving an exhibition that was a revelation to those who had not previously seen him in action. At one time football partisans whose real zeal outran their discretion were in the habit of relieving their feelings bu pelting opponents with stones and mud. It was great sport while it lasted, though those foolish enough to indulge in it had scant regard for the trouble it might cause. For example, when Burnley were here in December, 1892, they complained of the liveliness of their journey to the railway station. They had lost an exciting match by 2-0. In the last few minutes the referee had found it necessary to order a player on each side to leave the field. Rightly or wrongly, a section of the crowd believed that the visitors were to blame for what had happened. As a sequel, Burnley alleged that they were bombarded with missiles as they drove in a wagonette along Bolton Road. Jack Hillman, their goalkeeper was reported to have been struck in the face by a stone, and the players generally were said to have had narrow escapes from injury. When the matter was investigated by a commission of the Football Association the Rovers club put in affidavits to the effect that there was no stone-throwing within at least 200 yards of Ewood Park, and as far as they knew nothing of the kind took place at that distance. The club were honorably acquitted, the commission dismissing the appeal and holding that no blame attached to the Rovers committee. They suggested, however, that it would have been more prudent if protection had been provided for the Burnley team until they reached the town. As the complainants had asked not for a penalty, but for a ruling on the subject, they were equally satisfied with the decision. Arte et labore[/p][/quote]What is the point of this post.[/p][/quote]Lost on you, obviously ![/p][/quote]Just explain then. kfc yummy
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5:05pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Stone Island: says...

Will P wrote:
unclejacklegend wrote:
Riverside 7 wrote:
Well lets start with clearing out the deadwood at the club and make way for new recruits and our own youngsters.

Givet - I used to like his enthusiasm and commitment but after his 2 fall outs with Kean and his heart problems he dosn't seem to be the same player.
He has not been first choice for our last 3 managers - Berg, Bowyer & now Appleton and he must be on big wages. SELL

Dunn - Whilst he is a true Rovers fan, we must not let this overshadow the fact that he simply does not play enough games. He has made just 6 appearances out of 29 games this season. I have seen players recover from cruciate ligament injuries quicker that Dunn does from a calf strain. PAY UP HIS CONTRACT - RELEASE

Formica - he is not even a regular in the Championship. Kean/JA paid £3.5M for him. We would be lucky to get £1M for him. Neverthelss - SELL

Portuguese contingent - of the 6 players that Shebby signed from Portugal, only Fabio Nunes has showed that he has a chance of making it in England.
Most of the Portuguese players have not featured, especially since the colder weather started in November.
Gomes was a classy player and after a bright start to the season he is certainly not justifying the huge wages he is on. SELL / RELEASE

Etuhu - unless Appleton can find a way for him to play along side Murphy (I believe that he has already spoken to Roy Hodgson about this) then he should also go. He is another on big wages and has not impressed.
SELL

Robinson - how does a 33 year old professional sportsman become so overweight. Answer - lack of commitment. SELL

Olsson - over-rated as a full back. In my opinion, his best position is left side of midfield. If we can get over £4M for him - SELL

Dann - has certainly been a big disappointment since his arrival for around £6M. He makes too many mistakes. If we can get over £4M I would SELL.

Slew - I understand that he is now back at the club but he has hardly featured in the first team squad. Bought by Kean as one for the future! SELL

I am sure that I have missed quite a few out, but it shows the size of the task that Appleton now has.

Good luck. You are going to need it.
Hanley - not quick enough, doesn't win enough headers for a CB and panics with the ball, poor positionally due to lack of experience and no good looking to dann for inspiration. Fine as backup as under allardyce but not good enough for first string yet.

Murphy - lazy, slow, uninspiring (especially for a captain) doesn't lead by example, poor distribution, massive wages. A handful of acceptable at best performances in a rovers shirt.

Kazim Richards - trips over his bottom lip when asked to play wide rather than up front, arrogant, only chases down and puts effort in when he sees fit.
spends 90% of the game strutting around like he runs the place. Decent when he can be bothered but poor all day Saturday apart from 10 mins after half time.

Lowe- 2 or 3 cracking long balls and works hard but generally not gifted enough for a team which is supposed to be chasing promotion.

Big job on for Appleton.
How about the following:-

1) Marlon King - free transfer, he can play alongside Rhodes in home games. This would be until Leon Best comes back, and in case Best's injury re-occurs.

2) Graham Dorrans - No clue but transfer listed. Can play as a left midfielder or as a central midfielder. Better work rate and passing than current central midfielders.

3) Alberto Botia - Centre back for Sevilla. Fringe player for their first team, but is a better player than what we currently have. Played alongside Rochina for Barcelona B team.

4) Albert Adomah - £1m (approx.). Winger for Bristol City, should really be playing football in the Premier League, hence Swansea wanting him.

5) Younousse Sankhare - Midfielder for Valenciennes in Ligue 1 of France. Played twice this season and was sold by PSG as soon as money bags came in.

Just some suggestions, I just think it shows that there are players out there, you just have to look hard. Swansea and Newcastle have become masters at it (I know they are PL but you know what i'm saying).
Would that be the same Marlon King (MK) that has a string of criminal convictions? Would that be the same MK that has served TWO jail sentences? Would that be the same MK that is on the sex offenders register?

I doubt our new PR gurus would approve. Then again, after Saturday's PR own goal, they probably would.
[quote][p][bold]Will P[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]unclejacklegend[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote: Well lets start with clearing out the deadwood at the club and make way for new recruits and our own youngsters. Givet - I used to like his enthusiasm and commitment but after his 2 fall outs with Kean and his heart problems he dosn't seem to be the same player. He has not been first choice for our last 3 managers - Berg, Bowyer & now Appleton and he must be on big wages. SELL Dunn - Whilst he is a true Rovers fan, we must not let this overshadow the fact that he simply does not play enough games. He has made just 6 appearances out of 29 games this season. I have seen players recover from cruciate ligament injuries quicker that Dunn does from a calf strain. PAY UP HIS CONTRACT - RELEASE Formica - he is not even a regular in the Championship. Kean/JA paid £3.5M for him. We would be lucky to get £1M for him. Neverthelss - SELL Portuguese contingent - of the 6 players that Shebby signed from Portugal, only Fabio Nunes has showed that he has a chance of making it in England. Most of the Portuguese players have not featured, especially since the colder weather started in November. Gomes was a classy player and after a bright start to the season he is certainly not justifying the huge wages he is on. SELL / RELEASE Etuhu - unless Appleton can find a way for him to play along side Murphy (I believe that he has already spoken to Roy Hodgson about this) then he should also go. He is another on big wages and has not impressed. SELL Robinson - how does a 33 year old professional sportsman become so overweight. Answer - lack of commitment. SELL Olsson - over-rated as a full back. In my opinion, his best position is left side of midfield. If we can get over £4M for him - SELL Dann - has certainly been a big disappointment since his arrival for around £6M. He makes too many mistakes. If we can get over £4M I would SELL. Slew - I understand that he is now back at the club but he has hardly featured in the first team squad. Bought by Kean as one for the future! SELL I am sure that I have missed quite a few out, but it shows the size of the task that Appleton now has. Good luck. You are going to need it.[/p][/quote]Hanley - not quick enough, doesn't win enough headers for a CB and panics with the ball, poor positionally due to lack of experience and no good looking to dann for inspiration. Fine as backup as under allardyce but not good enough for first string yet. Murphy - lazy, slow, uninspiring (especially for a captain) doesn't lead by example, poor distribution, massive wages. A handful of acceptable at best performances in a rovers shirt. Kazim Richards - trips over his bottom lip when asked to play wide rather than up front, arrogant, only chases down and puts effort in when he sees fit. spends 90% of the game strutting around like he runs the place. Decent when he can be bothered but poor all day Saturday apart from 10 mins after half time. Lowe- 2 or 3 cracking long balls and works hard but generally not gifted enough for a team which is supposed to be chasing promotion. Big job on for Appleton.[/p][/quote]How about the following:- 1) Marlon King - free transfer, he can play alongside Rhodes in home games. This would be until Leon Best comes back, and in case Best's injury re-occurs. 2) Graham Dorrans - No clue but transfer listed. Can play as a left midfielder or as a central midfielder. Better work rate and passing than current central midfielders. 3) Alberto Botia - Centre back for Sevilla. Fringe player for their first team, but is a better player than what we currently have. Played alongside Rochina for Barcelona B team. 4) Albert Adomah - £1m (approx.). Winger for Bristol City, should really be playing football in the Premier League, hence Swansea wanting him. 5) Younousse Sankhare - Midfielder for Valenciennes in Ligue 1 of France. Played twice this season and was sold by PSG as soon as money bags came in. Just some suggestions, I just think it shows that there are players out there, you just have to look hard. Swansea and Newcastle have become masters at it (I know they are PL but you know what i'm saying).[/p][/quote]Would that be the same Marlon King (MK) that has a string of criminal convictions? Would that be the same MK that has served TWO jail sentences? Would that be the same MK that is on the sex offenders register? I doubt our new PR gurus would approve. Then again, after Saturday's PR own goal, they probably would. Stone Island:
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5:06pm Mon 21 Jan 13

dangerous dave says...

A Darener wrote:
benal13 wrote:
bradley orr back after weekend from ipswich bet thats lifted the gloom round ewood!!!!!!!!!!!!
Saved!
Yes thats ambition for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]benal13[/bold] wrote: bradley orr back after weekend from ipswich bet thats lifted the gloom round ewood!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Saved![/p][/quote]Yes thats ambition for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM dangerous dave
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5:12pm Mon 21 Jan 13

kfc yummy says...

wolsty wrote:
burnleyglentoran wrote:
B*******d Rovers have announced that, on tuesday night, Shebby Singh will make the half draw.

The unlucky winner will be next months manager!

"Chumpionship" - Staying down 4eva!
tell me dingle,whats all these reports down south ? that your great striker could be on his way to bonny SCOTLAND playing for CELTIC,hope its true that way you lot will go to your pages and have a wee chat together have a nice day
Does not matter still winning without him are you.
[quote][p][bold]wolsty[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]burnleyglentoran[/bold] wrote: B*******d Rovers have announced that, on tuesday night, Shebby Singh will make the half draw. The unlucky winner will be next months manager! "Chumpionship" - Staying down 4eva![/p][/quote]tell me dingle,whats all these reports down south ? that your great striker could be on his way to bonny SCOTLAND playing for CELTIC,hope its true that way you lot will go to your pages and have a wee chat together have a nice day[/p][/quote]Does not matter still winning without him are you. kfc yummy
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5:19pm Mon 21 Jan 13

baldie says...

A Darener wrote:
Whilst not condoning the actions of fans who threw snowballs at the Venky's it is fully understandable. Let us hope that they realise they are on a hiding to nothing. They cannot get the majority of fans on side whatever they do. The only logical conclusion for the fiasco that is BRFC is to admit defeat, something they are now used to and put the club up for sale now, in the hope somebody will emerge to save the club. Not hopeful but unless they try things will only get worse.
It isn't understandable,and by saying so,you are condoning it.It was nothing short of a disgrace.
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Whilst not condoning the actions of fans who threw snowballs at the Venky's it is fully understandable. Let us hope that they realise they are on a hiding to nothing. They cannot get the majority of fans on side whatever they do. The only logical conclusion for the fiasco that is BRFC is to admit defeat, something they are now used to and put the club up for sale now, in the hope somebody will emerge to save the club. Not hopeful but unless they try things will only get worse.[/p][/quote]It isn't understandable,and by saying so,you are condoning it.It was nothing short of a disgrace. baldie
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5:31pm Mon 21 Jan 13

A Darener says...

baldie wrote:
A Darener wrote:
Whilst not condoning the actions of fans who threw snowballs at the Venky's it is fully understandable. Let us hope that they realise they are on a hiding to nothing. They cannot get the majority of fans on side whatever they do. The only logical conclusion for the fiasco that is BRFC is to admit defeat, something they are now used to and put the club up for sale now, in the hope somebody will emerge to save the club. Not hopeful but unless they try things will only get worse.
It isn't understandable,and by saying so,you are condoning it.It was nothing short of a disgrace.
As somebody some where quoted. Thank goodness they don't own a Club in Columbia!
[quote][p][bold]baldie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Whilst not condoning the actions of fans who threw snowballs at the Venky's it is fully understandable. Let us hope that they realise they are on a hiding to nothing. They cannot get the majority of fans on side whatever they do. The only logical conclusion for the fiasco that is BRFC is to admit defeat, something they are now used to and put the club up for sale now, in the hope somebody will emerge to save the club. Not hopeful but unless they try things will only get worse.[/p][/quote]It isn't understandable,and by saying so,you are condoning it.It was nothing short of a disgrace.[/p][/quote]As somebody some where quoted. Thank goodness they don't own a Club in Columbia! A Darener
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5:39pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder says...

A Darener wrote:
There is now no way back for the Venky's. they must realise after Saturday that they are not wanted. But to leave after 65 minutes was just to stick two fingers up to the fans. They are treating the fans with such disdain that even the lowest caste in India would not put up with them.
The fans that had chamted disgusting slogas at their offspring and then pelted them with snowballs you mean.
Grow up lad.
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: There is now no way back for the Venky's. they must realise after Saturday that they are not wanted. But to leave after 65 minutes was just to stick two fingers up to the fans. They are treating the fans with such disdain that even the lowest caste in India would not put up with them.[/p][/quote]The fans that had chamted disgusting slogas at their offspring and then pelted them with snowballs you mean. Grow up lad. Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder
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5:40pm Mon 21 Jan 13

dangerous dave says...

baldie wrote:
A Darener wrote:
Whilst not condoning the actions of fans who threw snowballs at the Venky's it is fully understandable. Let us hope that they realise they are on a hiding to nothing. They cannot get the majority of fans on side whatever they do. The only logical conclusion for the fiasco that is BRFC is to admit defeat, something they are now used to and put the club up for sale now, in the hope somebody will emerge to save the club. Not hopeful but unless they try things will only get worse.
It isn't understandable,and by saying so,you are condoning it.It was nothing short of a disgrace.
Baldie - are you the Agnew in disguise!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!
The Venkys should surely realize that the fans are sick to death of their promises/lies and should put the club up for sale - they and Messrs Shaw Agnew Singh Hendry are not wanted at Ewood - we want Owners/Directors with footballing ability/credibility and a 'true ambition' to take the club forward instead of second rate signings/appointment
s thus promising nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!
And yes the fans every right to demonstrate their feelings - the Venkys knew exactly what to expect upon their arrival at Ewood in their Rolls fleet - and should have had more sense than to put a child through such an experience - more fool them.
OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM
[quote][p][bold]baldie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Whilst not condoning the actions of fans who threw snowballs at the Venky's it is fully understandable. Let us hope that they realise they are on a hiding to nothing. They cannot get the majority of fans on side whatever they do. The only logical conclusion for the fiasco that is BRFC is to admit defeat, something they are now used to and put the club up for sale now, in the hope somebody will emerge to save the club. Not hopeful but unless they try things will only get worse.[/p][/quote]It isn't understandable,and by saying so,you are condoning it.It was nothing short of a disgrace.[/p][/quote]Baldie - are you the Agnew in disguise!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!! The Venkys should surely realize that the fans are sick to death of their promises/lies and should put the club up for sale - they and Messrs Shaw Agnew Singh Hendry are not wanted at Ewood - we want Owners/Directors with footballing ability/credibility and a 'true ambition' to take the club forward instead of second rate signings/appointment s thus promising nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!! And yes the fans every right to demonstrate their feelings - the Venkys knew exactly what to expect upon their arrival at Ewood in their Rolls fleet - and should have had more sense than to put a child through such an experience - more fool them. OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM dangerous dave
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5:43pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Will P says...

Stone Island: wrote:
Will P wrote:
unclejacklegend wrote:
Riverside 7 wrote:
Well lets start with clearing out the deadwood at the club and make way for new recruits and our own youngsters.

Givet - I used to like his enthusiasm and commitment but after his 2 fall outs with Kean and his heart problems he dosn't seem to be the same player.
He has not been first choice for our last 3 managers - Berg, Bowyer & now Appleton and he must be on big wages. SELL

Dunn - Whilst he is a true Rovers fan, we must not let this overshadow the fact that he simply does not play enough games. He has made just 6 appearances out of 29 games this season. I have seen players recover from cruciate ligament injuries quicker that Dunn does from a calf strain. PAY UP HIS CONTRACT - RELEASE

Formica - he is not even a regular in the Championship. Kean/JA paid £3.5M for him. We would be lucky to get £1M for him. Neverthelss - SELL

Portuguese contingent - of the 6 players that Shebby signed from Portugal, only Fabio Nunes has showed that he has a chance of making it in England.
Most of the Portuguese players have not featured, especially since the colder weather started in November.
Gomes was a classy player and after a bright start to the season he is certainly not justifying the huge wages he is on. SELL / RELEASE

Etuhu - unless Appleton can find a way for him to play along side Murphy (I believe that he has already spoken to Roy Hodgson about this) then he should also go. He is another on big wages and has not impressed.
SELL

Robinson - how does a 33 year old professional sportsman become so overweight. Answer - lack of commitment. SELL

Olsson - over-rated as a full back. In my opinion, his best position is left side of midfield. If we can get over £4M for him - SELL

Dann - has certainly been a big disappointment since his arrival for around £6M. He makes too many mistakes. If we can get over £4M I would SELL.

Slew - I understand that he is now back at the club but he has hardly featured in the first team squad. Bought by Kean as one for the future! SELL

I am sure that I have missed quite a few out, but it shows the size of the task that Appleton now has.

Good luck. You are going to need it.
Hanley - not quick enough, doesn't win enough headers for a CB and panics with the ball, poor positionally due to lack of experience and no good looking to dann for inspiration. Fine as backup as under allardyce but not good enough for first string yet.

Murphy - lazy, slow, uninspiring (especially for a captain) doesn't lead by example, poor distribution, massive wages. A handful of acceptable at best performances in a rovers shirt.

Kazim Richards - trips over his bottom lip when asked to play wide rather than up front, arrogant, only chases down and puts effort in when he sees fit.
spends 90% of the game strutting around like he runs the place. Decent when he can be bothered but poor all day Saturday apart from 10 mins after half time.

Lowe- 2 or 3 cracking long balls and works hard but generally not gifted enough for a team which is supposed to be chasing promotion.

Big job on for Appleton.
How about the following:-

1) Marlon King - free transfer, he can play alongside Rhodes in home games. This would be until Leon Best comes back, and in case Best's injury re-occurs.

2) Graham Dorrans - No clue but transfer listed. Can play as a left midfielder or as a central midfielder. Better work rate and passing than current central midfielders.

3) Alberto Botia - Centre back for Sevilla. Fringe player for their first team, but is a better player than what we currently have. Played alongside Rochina for Barcelona B team.

4) Albert Adomah - £1m (approx.). Winger for Bristol City, should really be playing football in the Premier League, hence Swansea wanting him.

5) Younousse Sankhare - Midfielder for Valenciennes in Ligue 1 of France. Played twice this season and was sold by PSG as soon as money bags came in.

Just some suggestions, I just think it shows that there are players out there, you just have to look hard. Swansea and Newcastle have become masters at it (I know they are PL but you know what i'm saying).
Would that be the same Marlon King (MK) that has a string of criminal convictions? Would that be the same MK that has served TWO jail sentences? Would that be the same MK that is on the sex offenders register?

I doubt our new PR gurus would approve. Then again, after Saturday's PR own goal, they probably would.
That would be unfortunately. However that would be Birminghams' top scorer for the past two seasons.

Titus Bramble is played by Sunderland, he is arguably worse!
[quote][p][bold]Stone Island:[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Will P[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]unclejacklegend[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote: Well lets start with clearing out the deadwood at the club and make way for new recruits and our own youngsters. Givet - I used to like his enthusiasm and commitment but after his 2 fall outs with Kean and his heart problems he dosn't seem to be the same player. He has not been first choice for our last 3 managers - Berg, Bowyer & now Appleton and he must be on big wages. SELL Dunn - Whilst he is a true Rovers fan, we must not let this overshadow the fact that he simply does not play enough games. He has made just 6 appearances out of 29 games this season. I have seen players recover from cruciate ligament injuries quicker that Dunn does from a calf strain. PAY UP HIS CONTRACT - RELEASE Formica - he is not even a regular in the Championship. Kean/JA paid £3.5M for him. We would be lucky to get £1M for him. Neverthelss - SELL Portuguese contingent - of the 6 players that Shebby signed from Portugal, only Fabio Nunes has showed that he has a chance of making it in England. Most of the Portuguese players have not featured, especially since the colder weather started in November. Gomes was a classy player and after a bright start to the season he is certainly not justifying the huge wages he is on. SELL / RELEASE Etuhu - unless Appleton can find a way for him to play along side Murphy (I believe that he has already spoken to Roy Hodgson about this) then he should also go. He is another on big wages and has not impressed. SELL Robinson - how does a 33 year old professional sportsman become so overweight. Answer - lack of commitment. SELL Olsson - over-rated as a full back. In my opinion, his best position is left side of midfield. If we can get over £4M for him - SELL Dann - has certainly been a big disappointment since his arrival for around £6M. He makes too many mistakes. If we can get over £4M I would SELL. Slew - I understand that he is now back at the club but he has hardly featured in the first team squad. Bought by Kean as one for the future! SELL I am sure that I have missed quite a few out, but it shows the size of the task that Appleton now has. Good luck. You are going to need it.[/p][/quote]Hanley - not quick enough, doesn't win enough headers for a CB and panics with the ball, poor positionally due to lack of experience and no good looking to dann for inspiration. Fine as backup as under allardyce but not good enough for first string yet. Murphy - lazy, slow, uninspiring (especially for a captain) doesn't lead by example, poor distribution, massive wages. A handful of acceptable at best performances in a rovers shirt. Kazim Richards - trips over his bottom lip when asked to play wide rather than up front, arrogant, only chases down and puts effort in when he sees fit. spends 90% of the game strutting around like he runs the place. Decent when he can be bothered but poor all day Saturday apart from 10 mins after half time. Lowe- 2 or 3 cracking long balls and works hard but generally not gifted enough for a team which is supposed to be chasing promotion. Big job on for Appleton.[/p][/quote]How about the following:- 1) Marlon King - free transfer, he can play alongside Rhodes in home games. This would be until Leon Best comes back, and in case Best's injury re-occurs. 2) Graham Dorrans - No clue but transfer listed. Can play as a left midfielder or as a central midfielder. Better work rate and passing than current central midfielders. 3) Alberto Botia - Centre back for Sevilla. Fringe player for their first team, but is a better player than what we currently have. Played alongside Rochina for Barcelona B team. 4) Albert Adomah - £1m (approx.). Winger for Bristol City, should really be playing football in the Premier League, hence Swansea wanting him. 5) Younousse Sankhare - Midfielder for Valenciennes in Ligue 1 of France. Played twice this season and was sold by PSG as soon as money bags came in. Just some suggestions, I just think it shows that there are players out there, you just have to look hard. Swansea and Newcastle have become masters at it (I know they are PL but you know what i'm saying).[/p][/quote]Would that be the same Marlon King (MK) that has a string of criminal convictions? Would that be the same MK that has served TWO jail sentences? Would that be the same MK that is on the sex offenders register? I doubt our new PR gurus would approve. Then again, after Saturday's PR own goal, they probably would.[/p][/quote]That would be unfortunately. However that would be Birminghams' top scorer for the past two seasons. Titus Bramble is played by Sunderland, he is arguably worse! Will P
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5:45pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder says...

dangerous dave wrote:
baldie wrote:
A Darener wrote:
Whilst not condoning the actions of fans who threw snowballs at the Venky's it is fully understandable. Let us hope that they realise they are on a hiding to nothing. They cannot get the majority of fans on side whatever they do. The only logical conclusion for the fiasco that is BRFC is to admit defeat, something they are now used to and put the club up for sale now, in the hope somebody will emerge to save the club. Not hopeful but unless they try things will only get worse.
It isn't understandable,and by saying so,you are condoning it.It was nothing short of a disgrace.
Baldie - are you the Agnew in disguise!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!
The Venkys should surely realize that the fans are sick to death of their promises/lies and should put the club up for sale - they and Messrs Shaw Agnew Singh Hendry are not wanted at Ewood - we want Owners/Directors with footballing ability/credibility and a 'true ambition' to take the club forward instead of second rate signings/appointment

s thus promising nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!
And yes the fans every right to demonstrate their feelings - the Venkys knew exactly what to expect upon their arrival at Ewood in their Rolls fleet - and should have had more sense than to put a child through such an experience - more fool them.
OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM
So now its their fault the fans behave like baboons
WTF, take your medication, are these the said same people who refused to put up with Keans shambolic behaviour and think its now okay to behave like bafoons.
My god have we sunk so low.
Come back steve kean, we are now as low as you are.
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baldie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Whilst not condoning the actions of fans who threw snowballs at the Venky's it is fully understandable. Let us hope that they realise they are on a hiding to nothing. They cannot get the majority of fans on side whatever they do. The only logical conclusion for the fiasco that is BRFC is to admit defeat, something they are now used to and put the club up for sale now, in the hope somebody will emerge to save the club. Not hopeful but unless they try things will only get worse.[/p][/quote]It isn't understandable,and by saying so,you are condoning it.It was nothing short of a disgrace.[/p][/quote]Baldie - are you the Agnew in disguise!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!! The Venkys should surely realize that the fans are sick to death of their promises/lies and should put the club up for sale - they and Messrs Shaw Agnew Singh Hendry are not wanted at Ewood - we want Owners/Directors with footballing ability/credibility and a 'true ambition' to take the club forward instead of second rate signings/appointment s thus promising nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!! And yes the fans every right to demonstrate their feelings - the Venkys knew exactly what to expect upon their arrival at Ewood in their Rolls fleet - and should have had more sense than to put a child through such an experience - more fool them. OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM[/p][/quote]So now its their fault the fans behave like baboons WTF, take your medication, are these the said same people who refused to put up with Keans shambolic behaviour and think its now okay to behave like bafoons. My god have we sunk so low. Come back steve kean, we are now as low as you are. Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder
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5:48pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Harwoodstblue says...

Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:
A Darener wrote:
There is now no way back for the Venky's. they must realise after Saturday that they are not wanted. But to leave after 65 minutes was just to stick two fingers up to the fans. They are treating the fans with such disdain that even the lowest caste in India would not put up with them.
The fans that had chamted disgusting slogas at their offspring and then pelted them with snowballs you mean.
Grow up lad.
He's a Dingle, Darrener. ....From the Sh!tty end of the M65.
[quote][p][bold]Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: There is now no way back for the Venky's. they must realise after Saturday that they are not wanted. But to leave after 65 minutes was just to stick two fingers up to the fans. They are treating the fans with such disdain that even the lowest caste in India would not put up with them.[/p][/quote]The fans that had chamted disgusting slogas at their offspring and then pelted them with snowballs you mean. Grow up lad.[/p][/quote]He's a Dingle, Darrener. ....From the Sh!tty end of the M65. Harwoodstblue
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5:48pm Mon 21 Jan 13

wilpshireover says...

BBC website says Orr coming back. Oh Eck! He was too slow to catch a cold before.
BBC website says Orr coming back. Oh Eck! He was too slow to catch a cold before. wilpshireover
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5:49pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Harwoodstblue says...

A Darener wrote:
baldie wrote:
A Darener wrote:
Whilst not condoning the actions of fans who threw snowballs at the Venky's it is fully understandable. Let us hope that they realise they are on a hiding to nothing. They cannot get the majority of fans on side whatever they do. The only logical conclusion for the fiasco that is BRFC is to admit defeat, something they are now used to and put the club up for sale now, in the hope somebody will emerge to save the club. Not hopeful but unless they try things will only get worse.
It isn't understandable,and by saying so,you are condoning it.It was nothing short of a disgrace.
As somebody some where quoted. Thank goodness they don't own a Club in Columbia!
I hope they buy one.
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baldie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Whilst not condoning the actions of fans who threw snowballs at the Venky's it is fully understandable. Let us hope that they realise they are on a hiding to nothing. They cannot get the majority of fans on side whatever they do. The only logical conclusion for the fiasco that is BRFC is to admit defeat, something they are now used to and put the club up for sale now, in the hope somebody will emerge to save the club. Not hopeful but unless they try things will only get worse.[/p][/quote]It isn't understandable,and by saying so,you are condoning it.It was nothing short of a disgrace.[/p][/quote]As somebody some where quoted. Thank goodness they don't own a Club in Columbia![/p][/quote]I hope they buy one. Harwoodstblue
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5:57pm Mon 21 Jan 13

To.guy says...

Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:
A Darener wrote:
There is now no way back for the Venky's. they must realise after Saturday that they are not wanted. But to leave after 65 minutes was just to stick two fingers up to the fans. They are treating the fans with such disdain that even the lowest caste in India would not put up with them.
The fans that had chamted disgusting slogas at their offspring and then pelted them with snowballs you mean.
Grow up lad.
How many of those fans do you think there were? Have you considered that some of them might not even have been Rovers fans in the true sense e.g. they turned up for the trouble and went away without even going into the game. Have you wondered why Blackburn Rovers didn't anticipate trouble given that they allegedly advised Steve Kean to have 24/7 protection? Why then did they think it appropriate to allow 'fans' to gather in such close proximity to where the cars were pulling up and unloading when they could so easily and with common sense have blocked off that section for a short time? Did those organisers at the club not care enough? Had I been in charge, there is no way I would have had them unloading cars so close to a gathering crowd. It was senseless. They knew there wouldnt be a welcoming party. Who is in charge there now for safety and security? Flippin heck, they had more security measures at the ground last season when they were frisking us all for banners and chickens. I dont advocate aggression, abuse or anything although I can understand why fans feel so angry with Venkys, I wouldnt and dont voice that but you have to think outside the box on this one because some things dont add up.
[quote][p][bold]Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: There is now no way back for the Venky's. they must realise after Saturday that they are not wanted. But to leave after 65 minutes was just to stick two fingers up to the fans. They are treating the fans with such disdain that even the lowest caste in India would not put up with them.[/p][/quote]The fans that had chamted disgusting slogas at their offspring and then pelted them with snowballs you mean. Grow up lad.[/p][/quote]How many of those fans do you think there were? Have you considered that some of them might not even have been Rovers fans in the true sense e.g. they turned up for the trouble and went away without even going into the game. Have you wondered why Blackburn Rovers didn't anticipate trouble given that they allegedly advised Steve Kean to have 24/7 protection? Why then did they think it appropriate to allow 'fans' to gather in such close proximity to where the cars were pulling up and unloading when they could so easily and with common sense have blocked off that section for a short time? Did those organisers at the club not care enough? Had I been in charge, there is no way I would have had them unloading cars so close to a gathering crowd. It was senseless. They knew there wouldnt be a welcoming party. Who is in charge there now for safety and security? Flippin heck, they had more security measures at the ground last season when they were frisking us all for banners and chickens. I dont advocate aggression, abuse or anything although I can understand why fans feel so angry with Venkys, I wouldnt and dont voice that but you have to think outside the box on this one because some things dont add up. To.guy
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6:18pm Mon 21 Jan 13

wilpshireover says...

I continue to attend the matches simply because I have a season ticket and I do not see the point of missing matches I have already paid for. In any case, one can always appreciate the qualities of the other teams players. For example, I have to say that the first Charlton goal was a wonderful example of skill. Of course, it did not help that our stupid left back played the ball straight to the opposition. His rule seems to be, if in doubt just kick it anywhere. He is always being caught on the wrong side of the winger, happens nearly every game. And now we are going to have Orr on the other side - fantastic!!!! On Saturday the players did not break into a sweat until the last 15 minutes.Too little too late.

The teams that arrive at Ewood with average records end up looking a good side. Actually it is Rovers being a poor side.

Anyway, if things do not change by May I will not be buying another season ticket.

The owners/directors havemade yet another bad decison. I am not making any judgement upon Mr Appleton, but I cannot understand why Gary Bowyer was not offered the job. Sheer stupidity.

To the idiots who chanted abuse at the owners upon their arrival, I consider that it is the height of rudeness to behave like that when these people had presumbly travelled a long way to Lancashire. At least they made the effort. Whatever you think of their efforts, I am sorry to have to say that these chanting idiots and their behaviour made me ashamed to be English. As a previous writer said - for goodness sake grow up.
I continue to attend the matches simply because I have a season ticket and I do not see the point of missing matches I have already paid for. In any case, one can always appreciate the qualities of the other teams players. For example, I have to say that the first Charlton goal was a wonderful example of skill. Of course, it did not help that our stupid left back played the ball straight to the opposition. His rule seems to be, if in doubt just kick it anywhere. He is always being caught on the wrong side of the winger, happens nearly every game. And now we are going to have Orr on the other side - fantastic!!!! On Saturday the players did not break into a sweat until the last 15 minutes.Too little too late. The teams that arrive at Ewood with average records end up looking a good side. Actually it is Rovers being a poor side. Anyway, if things do not change by May I will not be buying another season ticket. The owners/directors havemade yet another bad decison. I am not making any judgement upon Mr Appleton, but I cannot understand why Gary Bowyer was not offered the job. Sheer stupidity. To the idiots who chanted abuse at the owners upon their arrival, I consider that it is the height of rudeness to behave like that when these people had presumbly travelled a long way to Lancashire. At least they made the effort. Whatever you think of their efforts, I am sorry to have to say that these chanting idiots and their behaviour made me ashamed to be English. As a previous writer said - for goodness sake grow up. wilpshireover
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6:19pm Mon 21 Jan 13

glp says...

Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:
A Darener wrote:
There is now no way back for the Venky's. they must realise after Saturday that they are not wanted. But to leave after 65 minutes was just to stick two fingers up to the fans. They are treating the fans with such disdain that even the lowest caste in India would not put up with them.
The fans that had chamted disgusting slogas at their offspring and then pelted them with snowballs you mean.
Grow up lad.
I was not there on Saturday and am confused as to what happen. The fan base for Venkys Blackburn Rovers is usually stated at about 13.600. Were over 13,000 fans shouting abuse and throwing snowballs at Venkys. or as the fanbase reduced so badly it is now down to few idiot morons that were reported to be shouting abuse anbd throwing snowballs, could somebody clarify this for me please ??
[quote][p][bold]Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: There is now no way back for the Venky's. they must realise after Saturday that they are not wanted. But to leave after 65 minutes was just to stick two fingers up to the fans. They are treating the fans with such disdain that even the lowest caste in India would not put up with them.[/p][/quote]The fans that had chamted disgusting slogas at their offspring and then pelted them with snowballs you mean. Grow up lad.[/p][/quote]I was not there on Saturday and am confused as to what happen. The fan base for Venkys Blackburn Rovers is usually stated at about 13.600. Were over 13,000 fans shouting abuse and throwing snowballs at Venkys. or as the fanbase reduced so badly it is now down to few idiot morons that were reported to be shouting abuse anbd throwing snowballs, could somebody clarify this for me please ?? glp
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6:29pm Mon 21 Jan 13

wilpshireover says...

Darrener, have you ever considered that the owners merely went into the warm after 65 minutes because it was bl....dy cold! How do you know they left the ground? Youseem to assume a lot! They are from India, and without wishing to spell out the blinding obvious, it is a **** sight hotter there than in Blackburn! I was amazed to see them sitting where they were.

I do not think that they should be owning a football club, because they do not know enough and do not understand it, but sheer rudeness does not help anyone.
Darrener, have you ever considered that the owners merely went into the warm after 65 minutes because it was bl....dy cold! How do you know they left the ground? Youseem to assume a lot! They are from India, and without wishing to spell out the blinding obvious, it is a **** sight hotter there than in Blackburn! I was amazed to see them sitting where they were. I do not think that they should be owning a football club, because they do not know enough and do not understand it, but sheer rudeness does not help anyone. wilpshireover
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6:30pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder says...

To.guy wrote:
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:
A Darener wrote:
There is now no way back for the Venky's. they must realise after Saturday that they are not wanted. But to leave after 65 minutes was just to stick two fingers up to the fans. They are treating the fans with such disdain that even the lowest caste in India would not put up with them.
The fans that had chamted disgusting slogas at their offspring and then pelted them with snowballs you mean.
Grow up lad.
How many of those fans do you think there were? Have you considered that some of them might not even have been Rovers fans in the true sense e.g. they turned up for the trouble and went away without even going into the game. Have you wondered why Blackburn Rovers didn't anticipate trouble given that they allegedly advised Steve Kean to have 24/7 protection? Why then did they think it appropriate to allow 'fans' to gather in such close proximity to where the cars were pulling up and unloading when they could so easily and with common sense have blocked off that section for a short time? Did those organisers at the club not care enough? Had I been in charge, there is no way I would have had them unloading cars so close to a gathering crowd. It was senseless. They knew there wouldnt be a welcoming party. Who is in charge there now for safety and security? Flippin heck, they had more security measures at the ground last season when they were frisking us all for banners and chickens. I dont advocate aggression, abuse or anything although I can understand why fans feel so angry with Venkys, I wouldnt and dont voice that but you have to think outside the box on this one because some things dont add up.
What a crock, so some people who have no affiliation with the club turned up to cause trounle to make us look bad.
My goodness, what next Alien abduction. One conspiracy to far for me. It was Rovers fans making us look like a bunch of neanderthals.
But its okay isn't it because instead of ousting these mongs we will say they don't belong to us, they came from planet mongo and now they've gone back home.
Total embarrssment to the badge
[quote][p][bold]To.guy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: There is now no way back for the Venky's. they must realise after Saturday that they are not wanted. But to leave after 65 minutes was just to stick two fingers up to the fans. They are treating the fans with such disdain that even the lowest caste in India would not put up with them.[/p][/quote]The fans that had chamted disgusting slogas at their offspring and then pelted them with snowballs you mean. Grow up lad.[/p][/quote]How many of those fans do you think there were? Have you considered that some of them might not even have been Rovers fans in the true sense e.g. they turned up for the trouble and went away without even going into the game. Have you wondered why Blackburn Rovers didn't anticipate trouble given that they allegedly advised Steve Kean to have 24/7 protection? Why then did they think it appropriate to allow 'fans' to gather in such close proximity to where the cars were pulling up and unloading when they could so easily and with common sense have blocked off that section for a short time? Did those organisers at the club not care enough? Had I been in charge, there is no way I would have had them unloading cars so close to a gathering crowd. It was senseless. They knew there wouldnt be a welcoming party. Who is in charge there now for safety and security? Flippin heck, they had more security measures at the ground last season when they were frisking us all for banners and chickens. I dont advocate aggression, abuse or anything although I can understand why fans feel so angry with Venkys, I wouldnt and dont voice that but you have to think outside the box on this one because some things dont add up.[/p][/quote]What a crock, so some people who have no affiliation with the club turned up to cause trounle to make us look bad. My goodness, what next Alien abduction. One conspiracy to far for me. It was Rovers fans making us look like a bunch of neanderthals. But its okay isn't it because instead of ousting these mongs we will say they don't belong to us, they came from planet mongo and now they've gone back home. Total embarrssment to the badge Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder
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6:40pm Mon 21 Jan 13

wilpshireover says...

glb,

If you watch the football league show they have film of it. I had entered the ground a few minutes before Venkys arrived and walked by the directors entrance. I woud say there were not more than 50 people congregated there at that point. Don't know how many arrived afterwards, but from where I was sat in the Riverside stand I cant sa I heard that much chanting inside the ground.

Anyway, I do not think such behaviour is a picture that the club should present to the outside world.
glb, If you watch the football league show they have film of it. I had entered the ground a few minutes before Venkys arrived and walked by the directors entrance. I woud say there were not more than 50 people congregated there at that point. Don't know how many arrived afterwards, but from where I was sat in the Riverside stand I cant sa I heard that much chanting inside the ground. Anyway, I do not think such behaviour is a picture that the club should present to the outside world. wilpshireover
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7:23pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Harwoodstblue says...

glp wrote:
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:
A Darener wrote:
There is now no way back for the Venky's. they must realise after Saturday that they are not wanted. But to leave after 65 minutes was just to stick two fingers up to the fans. They are treating the fans with such disdain that even the lowest caste in India would not put up with them.
The fans that had chamted disgusting slogas at their offspring and then pelted them with snowballs you mean.
Grow up lad.
I was not there on Saturday and am confused as to what happen. The fan base for Venkys Blackburn Rovers is usually stated at about 13.600. Were over 13,000 fans shouting abuse and throwing snowballs at Venkys. or as the fanbase reduced so badly it is now down to few idiot morons that were reported to be shouting abuse anbd throwing snowballs, could somebody clarify this for me please ??
I'll clarify it for you glp. Out of the 13,000 crowd, 12950 acted perfectly responsibly, whilst a handful of idiots decided to verbally abuse Venkys on their arrival. One idiot threw a snowball and one or two more idiots on here have decided to blow it out of all proportion for whatever reason it suits them.
[quote][p][bold]glp[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: There is now no way back for the Venky's. they must realise after Saturday that they are not wanted. But to leave after 65 minutes was just to stick two fingers up to the fans. They are treating the fans with such disdain that even the lowest caste in India would not put up with them.[/p][/quote]The fans that had chamted disgusting slogas at their offspring and then pelted them with snowballs you mean. Grow up lad.[/p][/quote]I was not there on Saturday and am confused as to what happen. The fan base for Venkys Blackburn Rovers is usually stated at about 13.600. Were over 13,000 fans shouting abuse and throwing snowballs at Venkys. or as the fanbase reduced so badly it is now down to few idiot morons that were reported to be shouting abuse anbd throwing snowballs, could somebody clarify this for me please ??[/p][/quote]I'll clarify it for you glp. Out of the 13,000 crowd, 12950 acted perfectly responsibly, whilst a handful of idiots decided to verbally abuse Venkys on their arrival. One idiot threw a snowball and one or two more idiots on here have decided to blow it out of all proportion for whatever reason it suits them. Harwoodstblue
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7:32pm Mon 21 Jan 13

To.guy says...

Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:
To.guy wrote:
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:
A Darener wrote:
There is now no way back for the Venky's. they must realise after Saturday that they are not wanted. But to leave after 65 minutes was just to stick two fingers up to the fans. They are treating the fans with such disdain that even the lowest caste in India would not put up with them.
The fans that had chamted disgusting slogas at their offspring and then pelted them with snowballs you mean.
Grow up lad.
How many of those fans do you think there were? Have you considered that some of them might not even have been Rovers fans in the true sense e.g. they turned up for the trouble and went away without even going into the game. Have you wondered why Blackburn Rovers didn't anticipate trouble given that they allegedly advised Steve Kean to have 24/7 protection? Why then did they think it appropriate to allow 'fans' to gather in such close proximity to where the cars were pulling up and unloading when they could so easily and with common sense have blocked off that section for a short time? Did those organisers at the club not care enough? Had I been in charge, there is no way I would have had them unloading cars so close to a gathering crowd. It was senseless. They knew there wouldnt be a welcoming party. Who is in charge there now for safety and security? Flippin heck, they had more security measures at the ground last season when they were frisking us all for banners and chickens. I dont advocate aggression, abuse or anything although I can understand why fans feel so angry with Venkys, I wouldnt and dont voice that but you have to think outside the box on this one because some things dont add up.
What a crock, so some people who have no affiliation with the club turned up to cause trounle to make us look bad.
My goodness, what next Alien abduction. One conspiracy to far for me. It was Rovers fans making us look like a bunch of neanderthals.
But its okay isn't it because instead of ousting these mongs we will say they don't belong to us, they came from planet mongo and now they've gone back home.
Total embarrssment to the badge
I think some people on here, you included are getting so mixed up that you are finding it difficult to understand the point people make and you twist it in your own anger. No I didnt say it was ok, no I didnt say they were aliens. I suggested as a possibility that some people go where the trouble is. I saw some doing it on Saturday so dont think it is that unbelievable. What I was referring to about things not adding up was the organisation for Venkys arrival which I find completely baffling and wonder why Blackburn Rovers didnt care enough to protect them from it. They have taken all sorts of extreme measures to stop fans protesting in the last 2 years. Frisking, drowning out chants with loud music, confiscating banners not only at Ewood but at away grounds. I cant tolerate people like you. You accuse others of something you are guilty of. Insulting, attacking and thinking you are right.
[quote][p][bold]Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]To.guy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: There is now no way back for the Venky's. they must realise after Saturday that they are not wanted. But to leave after 65 minutes was just to stick two fingers up to the fans. They are treating the fans with such disdain that even the lowest caste in India would not put up with them.[/p][/quote]The fans that had chamted disgusting slogas at their offspring and then pelted them with snowballs you mean. Grow up lad.[/p][/quote]How many of those fans do you think there were? Have you considered that some of them might not even have been Rovers fans in the true sense e.g. they turned up for the trouble and went away without even going into the game. Have you wondered why Blackburn Rovers didn't anticipate trouble given that they allegedly advised Steve Kean to have 24/7 protection? Why then did they think it appropriate to allow 'fans' to gather in such close proximity to where the cars were pulling up and unloading when they could so easily and with common sense have blocked off that section for a short time? Did those organisers at the club not care enough? Had I been in charge, there is no way I would have had them unloading cars so close to a gathering crowd. It was senseless. They knew there wouldnt be a welcoming party. Who is in charge there now for safety and security? Flippin heck, they had more security measures at the ground last season when they were frisking us all for banners and chickens. I dont advocate aggression, abuse or anything although I can understand why fans feel so angry with Venkys, I wouldnt and dont voice that but you have to think outside the box on this one because some things dont add up.[/p][/quote]What a crock, so some people who have no affiliation with the club turned up to cause trounle to make us look bad. My goodness, what next Alien abduction. One conspiracy to far for me. It was Rovers fans making us look like a bunch of neanderthals. But its okay isn't it because instead of ousting these mongs we will say they don't belong to us, they came from planet mongo and now they've gone back home. Total embarrssment to the badge[/p][/quote]I think some people on here, you included are getting so mixed up that you are finding it difficult to understand the point people make and you twist it in your own anger. No I didnt say it was ok, no I didnt say they were aliens. I suggested as a possibility that some people go where the trouble is. I saw some doing it on Saturday so dont think it is that unbelievable. What I was referring to about things not adding up was the organisation for Venkys arrival which I find completely baffling and wonder why Blackburn Rovers didnt care enough to protect them from it. They have taken all sorts of extreme measures to stop fans protesting in the last 2 years. Frisking, drowning out chants with loud music, confiscating banners not only at Ewood but at away grounds. I cant tolerate people like you. You accuse others of something you are guilty of. Insulting, attacking and thinking you are right. To.guy
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7:40pm Mon 21 Jan 13

juanbbien says...

Having had time to reflect on Saturdays Venky situation although I don't agree entirely with what went on,they didn't do themselves any favours arriving in personalised number plated Rolls Royces and parading in all aloof,like everything is going well and we are the problem,Going back to the team I don't think there is a manager anywhere who could make this set of has beens,and no hopers into a decent team,a barrel of dynamite up their rears wouldn't motivate them, they are just beyond it and should never have been signed,the big question is how do we get rid,and at what cost.
Having had time to reflect on Saturdays Venky situation although I don't agree entirely with what went on,they didn't do themselves any favours arriving in personalised number plated Rolls Royces and parading in all aloof,like everything is going well and we are the problem,Going back to the team I don't think there is a manager anywhere who could make this set of has beens,and no hopers into a decent team,a barrel of dynamite up their rears wouldn't motivate them, they are just beyond it and should never have been signed,the big question is how do we get rid,and at what cost. juanbbien
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7:45pm Mon 21 Jan 13

baldie says...

dangerous dave wrote:
baldie wrote:
A Darener wrote:
Whilst not condoning the actions of fans who threw snowballs at the Venky's it is fully understandable. Let us hope that they realise they are on a hiding to nothing. They cannot get the majority of fans on side whatever they do. The only logical conclusion for the fiasco that is BRFC is to admit defeat, something they are now used to and put the club up for sale now, in the hope somebody will emerge to save the club. Not hopeful but unless they try things will only get worse.
It isn't understandable,and by saying so,you are condoning it.It was nothing short of a disgrace.
Baldie - are you the Agnew in disguise!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!
The Venkys should surely realize that the fans are sick to death of their promises/lies and should put the club up for sale - they and Messrs Shaw Agnew Singh Hendry are not wanted at Ewood - we want Owners/Directors with footballing ability/credibility and a 'true ambition' to take the club forward instead of second rate signings/appointment

s thus promising nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!
And yes the fans every right to demonstrate their feelings - the Venkys knew exactly what to expect upon their arrival at Ewood in their Rolls fleet - and should have had more sense than to put a child through such an experience - more fool them.
OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM
Of couse everyone has the right to demonstrate,after all,we are the demonstrator's club.
It's Monday,let's have a demonstration,never mind all that turning up and supporting nonsense,i'm gonna boycott this 3rd round cup tie even though i was'nt going anyway,but i'll turn up on Saturday cos we've got Everton at home.
Demonstrating and not going to games and garlic bread-it's the way future
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baldie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Whilst not condoning the actions of fans who threw snowballs at the Venky's it is fully understandable. Let us hope that they realise they are on a hiding to nothing. They cannot get the majority of fans on side whatever they do. The only logical conclusion for the fiasco that is BRFC is to admit defeat, something they are now used to and put the club up for sale now, in the hope somebody will emerge to save the club. Not hopeful but unless they try things will only get worse.[/p][/quote]It isn't understandable,and by saying so,you are condoning it.It was nothing short of a disgrace.[/p][/quote]Baldie - are you the Agnew in disguise!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!! The Venkys should surely realize that the fans are sick to death of their promises/lies and should put the club up for sale - they and Messrs Shaw Agnew Singh Hendry are not wanted at Ewood - we want Owners/Directors with footballing ability/credibility and a 'true ambition' to take the club forward instead of second rate signings/appointment s thus promising nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!! And yes the fans every right to demonstrate their feelings - the Venkys knew exactly what to expect upon their arrival at Ewood in their Rolls fleet - and should have had more sense than to put a child through such an experience - more fool them. OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM[/p][/quote]Of couse everyone has the right to demonstrate,after all,we are the demonstrator's club. It's Monday,let's have a demonstration,never mind all that turning up and supporting nonsense,i'm gonna boycott this 3rd round cup tie even though i was'nt going anyway,but i'll turn up on Saturday cos we've got Everton at home. Demonstrating and not going to games and garlic bread-it's the way future baldie
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8:08pm Mon 21 Jan 13

kazluvsrovers says...

1952 rover wrote:
kazluvsrovers wrote:
No sh!t Sherlock!!!!
Why be so arrogant.
Im not arrogant I just cant believe that Appleton is actually stating the obvious,
Brighton a tough game, we need fresh faces, havent the fans on here been saying that for the last 18 months.
Did you get out of bed the wrong side this morning and bang your head on the wall.
Mr Grumpy!!!
[quote][p][bold]1952 rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kazluvsrovers[/bold] wrote: No sh!t Sherlock!!!![/p][/quote]Why be so arrogant.[/p][/quote]Im not arrogant I just cant believe that Appleton is actually stating the obvious, Brighton a tough game, we need fresh faces, havent the fans on here been saying that for the last 18 months. Did you get out of bed the wrong side this morning and bang your head on the wall. Mr Grumpy!!! kazluvsrovers
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8:10pm Mon 21 Jan 13

RoverInRotterdam says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
rovertillidie wrote:
Appleton has now seen his team first hand and witnessed what we have seen all this season....poor performances. Hopefully he has recognised that this squad ASSEMBLED BY KEAN (lets not forget that.... Berg only brought in Josh King.....is simply not good enough in all departments. Poor in defence, awful in centre midfield, no real width and our only bright spot Jordan Rhodes who feeds off scraps.

More to the point........

Can someone tell me how CKR goes from a man possessed and fully committed against Wolves to someone who appeared to lack any interest whatsoever especially in the first half. It seemed to me like he and the rest of the players had decided they were going to show the club they did not welcome the change in manager....this is totally unacceptable they are all paid excellent wages and the poor sods that turned up in poor weather to sit in the stands (including me) had to suffer what can only be described as a pathetic display. It makes my blood boil these really are a set of overpaid prima donnas and yes I will be there tomorrow but am expecting a lot more committment if not quality from them. We can only hope!!
Wrong! The squad was not assembled by Kean. To blame him for the players at this club is like blaming Ronald MacDonald for endorsement in Bugers! He had these players thrust upon him by self serving agents and advisors out to make an easy rupee out of well intentioned but naiive owners
He had been having players thrust on him since he first slithered into Big Sams still warm seat, but he didn't think it was a problem till it was Shebby doing the thrusting (so to speak..) I wonder if the reason it didn't bother him before, could possibly have been down to him receiving a cut of the overinflated agents fees from his bosom buddy Anderson ? It's just a thought,not a statement by the way....... R.T.I.D.....
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rovertillidie[/bold] wrote: Appleton has now seen his team first hand and witnessed what we have seen all this season....poor performances. Hopefully he has recognised that this squad ASSEMBLED BY KEAN (lets not forget that.... Berg only brought in Josh King.....is simply not good enough in all departments. Poor in defence, awful in centre midfield, no real width and our only bright spot Jordan Rhodes who feeds off scraps. More to the point........ Can someone tell me how CKR goes from a man possessed and fully committed against Wolves to someone who appeared to lack any interest whatsoever especially in the first half. It seemed to me like he and the rest of the players had decided they were going to show the club they did not welcome the change in manager....this is totally unacceptable they are all paid excellent wages and the poor sods that turned up in poor weather to sit in the stands (including me) had to suffer what can only be described as a pathetic display. It makes my blood boil these really are a set of overpaid prima donnas and yes I will be there tomorrow but am expecting a lot more committment if not quality from them. We can only hope!![/p][/quote]Wrong! The squad was not assembled by Kean. To blame him for the players at this club is like blaming Ronald MacDonald for endorsement in Bugers! He had these players thrust upon him by self serving agents and advisors out to make an easy rupee out of well intentioned but naiive owners[/p][/quote]He had been having players thrust on him since he first slithered into Big Sams still warm seat, but he didn't think it was a problem till it was Shebby doing the thrusting (so to speak..) I wonder if the reason it didn't bother him before, could possibly have been down to him receiving a cut of the overinflated agents fees from his bosom buddy Anderson ? It's just a thought,not a statement by the way....... R.T.I.D..... RoverInRotterdam
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8:14pm Mon 21 Jan 13

merlinrabbit says...

To.guy wrote:
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:
To.guy wrote:
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:
A Darener wrote:
There is now no way back for the Venky's. they must realise after Saturday that they are not wanted. But to leave after 65 minutes was just to stick two fingers up to the fans. They are treating the fans with such disdain that even the lowest caste in India would not put up with them.
The fans that had chamted disgusting slogas at their offspring and then pelted them with snowballs you mean.
Grow up lad.
How many of those fans do you think there were? Have you considered that some of them might not even have been Rovers fans in the true sense e.g. they turned up for the trouble and went away without even going into the game. Have you wondered why Blackburn Rovers didn't anticipate trouble given that they allegedly advised Steve Kean to have 24/7 protection? Why then did they think it appropriate to allow 'fans' to gather in such close proximity to where the cars were pulling up and unloading when they could so easily and with common sense have blocked off that section for a short time? Did those organisers at the club not care enough? Had I been in charge, there is no way I would have had them unloading cars so close to a gathering crowd. It was senseless. They knew there wouldnt be a welcoming party. Who is in charge there now for safety and security? Flippin heck, they had more security measures at the ground last season when they were frisking us all for banners and chickens. I dont advocate aggression, abuse or anything although I can understand why fans feel so angry with Venkys, I wouldnt and dont voice that but you have to think outside the box on this one because some things dont add up.
What a crock, so some people who have no affiliation with the club turned up to cause trounle to make us look bad.
My goodness, what next Alien abduction. One conspiracy to far for me. It was Rovers fans making us look like a bunch of neanderthals.
But its okay isn't it because instead of ousting these mongs we will say they don't belong to us, they came from planet mongo and now they've gone back home.
Total embarrssment to the badge
I think some people on here, you included are getting so mixed up that you are finding it difficult to understand the point people make and you twist it in your own anger. No I didnt say it was ok, no I didnt say they were aliens. I suggested as a possibility that some people go where the trouble is. I saw some doing it on Saturday so dont think it is that unbelievable. What I was referring to about things not adding up was the organisation for Venkys arrival which I find completely baffling and wonder why Blackburn Rovers didnt care enough to protect them from it. They have taken all sorts of extreme measures to stop fans protesting in the last 2 years. Frisking, drowning out chants with loud music, confiscating banners not only at Ewood but at away grounds. I cant tolerate people like you. You accuse others of something you are guilty of. Insulting, attacking and thinking you are right.
Jarrod, you are the crock mate. Total embarrassment to the badge? You've only just crawled out of the woodwork since this small demonstration happened and a handful of people behaved badly. Some could say To guy is justified is saying some are only interested in the 'trouble' aspect. You are an example of that. You're never made one positive contribution to the football discussion on here. You havent even posted on here. You seem only interested in the trouble. You have gone right over the top and seem to be hell bent on making it worse than it was. Your whining on about it is getting really boring. I'm beginning to wonder whether you arent one who is stoking the battle. Talk about the football and show us you even know what the badge is.
[quote][p][bold]To.guy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]To.guy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: There is now no way back for the Venky's. they must realise after Saturday that they are not wanted. But to leave after 65 minutes was just to stick two fingers up to the fans. They are treating the fans with such disdain that even the lowest caste in India would not put up with them.[/p][/quote]The fans that had chamted disgusting slogas at their offspring and then pelted them with snowballs you mean. Grow up lad.[/p][/quote]How many of those fans do you think there were? Have you considered that some of them might not even have been Rovers fans in the true sense e.g. they turned up for the trouble and went away without even going into the game. Have you wondered why Blackburn Rovers didn't anticipate trouble given that they allegedly advised Steve Kean to have 24/7 protection? Why then did they think it appropriate to allow 'fans' to gather in such close proximity to where the cars were pulling up and unloading when they could so easily and with common sense have blocked off that section for a short time? Did those organisers at the club not care enough? Had I been in charge, there is no way I would have had them unloading cars so close to a gathering crowd. It was senseless. They knew there wouldnt be a welcoming party. Who is in charge there now for safety and security? Flippin heck, they had more security measures at the ground last season when they were frisking us all for banners and chickens. I dont advocate aggression, abuse or anything although I can understand why fans feel so angry with Venkys, I wouldnt and dont voice that but you have to think outside the box on this one because some things dont add up.[/p][/quote]What a crock, so some people who have no affiliation with the club turned up to cause trounle to make us look bad. My goodness, what next Alien abduction. One conspiracy to far for me. It was Rovers fans making us look like a bunch of neanderthals. But its okay isn't it because instead of ousting these mongs we will say they don't belong to us, they came from planet mongo and now they've gone back home. Total embarrssment to the badge[/p][/quote]I think some people on here, you included are getting so mixed up that you are finding it difficult to understand the point people make and you twist it in your own anger. No I didnt say it was ok, no I didnt say they were aliens. I suggested as a possibility that some people go where the trouble is. I saw some doing it on Saturday so dont think it is that unbelievable. What I was referring to about things not adding up was the organisation for Venkys arrival which I find completely baffling and wonder why Blackburn Rovers didnt care enough to protect them from it. They have taken all sorts of extreme measures to stop fans protesting in the last 2 years. Frisking, drowning out chants with loud music, confiscating banners not only at Ewood but at away grounds. I cant tolerate people like you. You accuse others of something you are guilty of. Insulting, attacking and thinking you are right.[/p][/quote]Jarrod, you are the crock mate. Total embarrassment to the badge? You've only just crawled out of the woodwork since this small demonstration happened and a handful of people behaved badly. Some could say To guy is justified is saying some are only interested in the 'trouble' aspect. You are an example of that. You're never made one positive contribution to the football discussion on here. You havent even posted on here. You seem only interested in the trouble. You have gone right over the top and seem to be hell bent on making it worse than it was. Your whining on about it is getting really boring. I'm beginning to wonder whether you arent one who is stoking the battle. Talk about the football and show us you even know what the badge is. merlinrabbit
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8:17pm Mon 21 Jan 13

dangerous dave says...

baldie wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
baldie wrote:
A Darener wrote:
Whilst not condoning the actions of fans who threw snowballs at the Venky's it is fully understandable. Let us hope that they realise they are on a hiding to nothing. They cannot get the majority of fans on side whatever they do. The only logical conclusion for the fiasco that is BRFC is to admit defeat, something they are now used to and put the club up for sale now, in the hope somebody will emerge to save the club. Not hopeful but unless they try things will only get worse.
It isn't understandable,and by saying so,you are condoning it.It was nothing short of a disgrace.
Baldie - are you the Agnew in disguise!!!!!!!!!!!!


!!!!!!
The Venkys should surely realize that the fans are sick to death of their promises/lies and should put the club up for sale - they and Messrs Shaw Agnew Singh Hendry are not wanted at Ewood - we want Owners/Directors with footballing ability/credibility and a 'true ambition' to take the club forward instead of second rate signings/appointment


s thus promising nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!


!!!!
And yes the fans every right to demonstrate their feelings - the Venkys knew exactly what to expect upon their arrival at Ewood in their Rolls fleet - and should have had more sense than to put a child through such an experience - more fool them.
OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM
Of couse everyone has the right to demonstrate,after all,we are the demonstrator's club.
It's Monday,let's have a demonstration,never mind all that turning up and supporting nonsense,i'm gonna boycott this 3rd round cup tie even though i was'nt going anyway,but i'll turn up on Saturday cos we've got Everton at home.
Demonstrating and not going to games and garlic bread-it's the way future
baldie - what a load of 'tripe' - have you had one pill to many!!!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]baldie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baldie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Whilst not condoning the actions of fans who threw snowballs at the Venky's it is fully understandable. Let us hope that they realise they are on a hiding to nothing. They cannot get the majority of fans on side whatever they do. The only logical conclusion for the fiasco that is BRFC is to admit defeat, something they are now used to and put the club up for sale now, in the hope somebody will emerge to save the club. Not hopeful but unless they try things will only get worse.[/p][/quote]It isn't understandable,and by saying so,you are condoning it.It was nothing short of a disgrace.[/p][/quote]Baldie - are you the Agnew in disguise!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!! The Venkys should surely realize that the fans are sick to death of their promises/lies and should put the club up for sale - they and Messrs Shaw Agnew Singh Hendry are not wanted at Ewood - we want Owners/Directors with footballing ability/credibility and a 'true ambition' to take the club forward instead of second rate signings/appointment s thus promising nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!! And yes the fans every right to demonstrate their feelings - the Venkys knew exactly what to expect upon their arrival at Ewood in their Rolls fleet - and should have had more sense than to put a child through such an experience - more fool them. OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM[/p][/quote]Of couse everyone has the right to demonstrate,after all,we are the demonstrator's club. It's Monday,let's have a demonstration,never mind all that turning up and supporting nonsense,i'm gonna boycott this 3rd round cup tie even though i was'nt going anyway,but i'll turn up on Saturday cos we've got Everton at home. Demonstrating and not going to games and garlic bread-it's the way future[/p][/quote]baldie - what a load of 'tripe' - have you had one pill to many!!!!!!!!!! dangerous dave
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8:22pm Mon 21 Jan 13

merlinrabbit says...

juanbbien wrote:
Having had time to reflect on Saturdays Venky situation although I don't agree entirely with what went on,they didn't do themselves any favours arriving in personalised number plated Rolls Royces and parading in all aloof,like everything is going well and we are the problem,Going back to the team I don't think there is a manager anywhere who could make this set of has beens,and no hopers into a decent team,a barrel of dynamite up their rears wouldn't motivate them, they are just beyond it and should never have been signed,the big question is how do we get rid,and at what cost.
We were just listening to Pochettino being interviewed with his translator. Talking about what he has done prior to Southampton. Had to google it.We had to laugh because all of us agreed that despite not knowing the guy, we would have been happier to have him as our manager than Appleton. Dont ask me why though!! Must be the Argentina factor. I agree about the players and I know they are paid handsomely but they work for the most atrocious football club ever and god only knows what its like behind the scenes if the forefront is anything to go off. They must go to work on a Monday and wonder whose been sacked and who the manager is.
[quote][p][bold]juanbbien[/bold] wrote: Having had time to reflect on Saturdays Venky situation although I don't agree entirely with what went on,they didn't do themselves any favours arriving in personalised number plated Rolls Royces and parading in all aloof,like everything is going well and we are the problem,Going back to the team I don't think there is a manager anywhere who could make this set of has beens,and no hopers into a decent team,a barrel of dynamite up their rears wouldn't motivate them, they are just beyond it and should never have been signed,the big question is how do we get rid,and at what cost.[/p][/quote]We were just listening to Pochettino being interviewed with his translator. Talking about what he has done prior to Southampton. Had to google it.We had to laugh because all of us agreed that despite not knowing the guy, we would have been happier to have him as our manager than Appleton. Dont ask me why though!! Must be the Argentina factor. I agree about the players and I know they are paid handsomely but they work for the most atrocious football club ever and god only knows what its like behind the scenes if the forefront is anything to go off. They must go to work on a Monday and wonder whose been sacked and who the manager is. merlinrabbit
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8:36pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Harwoodstblue says...

merlinrabbit wrote:
To.guy wrote:
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:
To.guy wrote:
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:
A Darener wrote:
There is now no way back for the Venky's. they must realise after Saturday that they are not wanted. But to leave after 65 minutes was just to stick two fingers up to the fans. They are treating the fans with such disdain that even the lowest caste in India would not put up with them.
The fans that had chamted disgusting slogas at their offspring and then pelted them with snowballs you mean.
Grow up lad.
How many of those fans do you think there were? Have you considered that some of them might not even have been Rovers fans in the true sense e.g. they turned up for the trouble and went away without even going into the game. Have you wondered why Blackburn Rovers didn't anticipate trouble given that they allegedly advised Steve Kean to have 24/7 protection? Why then did they think it appropriate to allow 'fans' to gather in such close proximity to where the cars were pulling up and unloading when they could so easily and with common sense have blocked off that section for a short time? Did those organisers at the club not care enough? Had I been in charge, there is no way I would have had them unloading cars so close to a gathering crowd. It was senseless. They knew there wouldnt be a welcoming party. Who is in charge there now for safety and security? Flippin heck, they had more security measures at the ground last season when they were frisking us all for banners and chickens. I dont advocate aggression, abuse or anything although I can understand why fans feel so angry with Venkys, I wouldnt and dont voice that but you have to think outside the box on this one because some things dont add up.
What a crock, so some people who have no affiliation with the club turned up to cause trounle to make us look bad.
My goodness, what next Alien abduction. One conspiracy to far for me. It was Rovers fans making us look like a bunch of neanderthals.
But its okay isn't it because instead of ousting these mongs we will say they don't belong to us, they came from planet mongo and now they've gone back home.
Total embarrssment to the badge
I think some people on here, you included are getting so mixed up that you are finding it difficult to understand the point people make and you twist it in your own anger. No I didnt say it was ok, no I didnt say they were aliens. I suggested as a possibility that some people go where the trouble is. I saw some doing it on Saturday so dont think it is that unbelievable. What I was referring to about things not adding up was the organisation for Venkys arrival which I find completely baffling and wonder why Blackburn Rovers didnt care enough to protect them from it. They have taken all sorts of extreme measures to stop fans protesting in the last 2 years. Frisking, drowning out chants with loud music, confiscating banners not only at Ewood but at away grounds. I cant tolerate people like you. You accuse others of something you are guilty of. Insulting, attacking and thinking you are right.
Jarrod, you are the crock mate. Total embarrassment to the badge? You've only just crawled out of the woodwork since this small demonstration happened and a handful of people behaved badly. Some could say To guy is justified is saying some are only interested in the 'trouble' aspect. You are an example of that. You're never made one positive contribution to the football discussion on here. You havent even posted on here. You seem only interested in the trouble. You have gone right over the top and seem to be hell bent on making it worse than it was. Your whining on about it is getting really boring. I'm beginning to wonder whether you arent one who is stoking the battle. Talk about the football and show us you even know what the badge is.
He doesn't know what the badge is. He's a dingle doing a bit of stirring and having a laugh, don't fall for it
[quote][p][bold]merlinrabbit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]To.guy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]To.guy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: There is now no way back for the Venky's. they must realise after Saturday that they are not wanted. But to leave after 65 minutes was just to stick two fingers up to the fans. They are treating the fans with such disdain that even the lowest caste in India would not put up with them.[/p][/quote]The fans that had chamted disgusting slogas at their offspring and then pelted them with snowballs you mean. Grow up lad.[/p][/quote]How many of those fans do you think there were? Have you considered that some of them might not even have been Rovers fans in the true sense e.g. they turned up for the trouble and went away without even going into the game. Have you wondered why Blackburn Rovers didn't anticipate trouble given that they allegedly advised Steve Kean to have 24/7 protection? Why then did they think it appropriate to allow 'fans' to gather in such close proximity to where the cars were pulling up and unloading when they could so easily and with common sense have blocked off that section for a short time? Did those organisers at the club not care enough? Had I been in charge, there is no way I would have had them unloading cars so close to a gathering crowd. It was senseless. They knew there wouldnt be a welcoming party. Who is in charge there now for safety and security? Flippin heck, they had more security measures at the ground last season when they were frisking us all for banners and chickens. I dont advocate aggression, abuse or anything although I can understand why fans feel so angry with Venkys, I wouldnt and dont voice that but you have to think outside the box on this one because some things dont add up.[/p][/quote]What a crock, so some people who have no affiliation with the club turned up to cause trounle to make us look bad. My goodness, what next Alien abduction. One conspiracy to far for me. It was Rovers fans making us look like a bunch of neanderthals. But its okay isn't it because instead of ousting these mongs we will say they don't belong to us, they came from planet mongo and now they've gone back home. Total embarrssment to the badge[/p][/quote]I think some people on here, you included are getting so mixed up that you are finding it difficult to understand the point people make and you twist it in your own anger. No I didnt say it was ok, no I didnt say they were aliens. I suggested as a possibility that some people go where the trouble is. I saw some doing it on Saturday so dont think it is that unbelievable. What I was referring to about things not adding up was the organisation for Venkys arrival which I find completely baffling and wonder why Blackburn Rovers didnt care enough to protect them from it. They have taken all sorts of extreme measures to stop fans protesting in the last 2 years. Frisking, drowning out chants with loud music, confiscating banners not only at Ewood but at away grounds. I cant tolerate people like you. You accuse others of something you are guilty of. Insulting, attacking and thinking you are right.[/p][/quote]Jarrod, you are the crock mate. Total embarrassment to the badge? You've only just crawled out of the woodwork since this small demonstration happened and a handful of people behaved badly. Some could say To guy is justified is saying some are only interested in the 'trouble' aspect. You are an example of that. You're never made one positive contribution to the football discussion on here. You havent even posted on here. You seem only interested in the trouble. You have gone right over the top and seem to be hell bent on making it worse than it was. Your whining on about it is getting really boring. I'm beginning to wonder whether you arent one who is stoking the battle. Talk about the football and show us you even know what the badge is.[/p][/quote]He doesn't know what the badge is. He's a dingle doing a bit of stirring and having a laugh, don't fall for it Harwoodstblue
  • Score: 0

9:09pm Mon 21 Jan 13

baldie says...

dangerous dave wrote:
baldie wrote:
dangerous dave wrote:
baldie wrote:
A Darener wrote:
Whilst not condoning the actions of fans who threw snowballs at the Venky's it is fully understandable. Let us hope that they realise they are on a hiding to nothing. They cannot get the majority of fans on side whatever they do. The only logical conclusion for the fiasco that is BRFC is to admit defeat, something they are now used to and put the club up for sale now, in the hope somebody will emerge to save the club. Not hopeful but unless they try things will only get worse.
It isn't understandable,and by saying so,you are condoning it.It was nothing short of a disgrace.
Baldie - are you the Agnew in disguise!!!!!!!!!!!!



!!!!!!
The Venkys should surely realize that the fans are sick to death of their promises/lies and should put the club up for sale - they and Messrs Shaw Agnew Singh Hendry are not wanted at Ewood - we want Owners/Directors with footballing ability/credibility and a 'true ambition' to take the club forward instead of second rate signings/appointment



s thus promising nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!



!!!!
And yes the fans every right to demonstrate their feelings - the Venkys knew exactly what to expect upon their arrival at Ewood in their Rolls fleet - and should have had more sense than to put a child through such an experience - more fool them.
OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM
Of couse everyone has the right to demonstrate,after all,we are the demonstrator's club.
It's Monday,let's have a demonstration,never mind all that turning up and supporting nonsense,i'm gonna boycott this 3rd round cup tie even though i was'nt going anyway,but i'll turn up on Saturday cos we've got Everton at home.
Demonstrating and not going to games and garlic bread-it's the way future
baldie - what a load of 'tripe' - have you had one pill to many!!!!!!!!!!
I feel better now
[quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baldie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dangerous dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baldie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Whilst not condoning the actions of fans who threw snowballs at the Venky's it is fully understandable. Let us hope that they realise they are on a hiding to nothing. They cannot get the majority of fans on side whatever they do. The only logical conclusion for the fiasco that is BRFC is to admit defeat, something they are now used to and put the club up for sale now, in the hope somebody will emerge to save the club. Not hopeful but unless they try things will only get worse.[/p][/quote]It isn't understandable,and by saying so,you are condoning it.It was nothing short of a disgrace.[/p][/quote]Baldie - are you the Agnew in disguise!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!! The Venkys should surely realize that the fans are sick to death of their promises/lies and should put the club up for sale - they and Messrs Shaw Agnew Singh Hendry are not wanted at Ewood - we want Owners/Directors with footballing ability/credibility and a 'true ambition' to take the club forward instead of second rate signings/appointment s thus promising nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!! And yes the fans every right to demonstrate their feelings - the Venkys knew exactly what to expect upon their arrival at Ewood in their Rolls fleet - and should have had more sense than to put a child through such an experience - more fool them. OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM[/p][/quote]Of couse everyone has the right to demonstrate,after all,we are the demonstrator's club. It's Monday,let's have a demonstration,never mind all that turning up and supporting nonsense,i'm gonna boycott this 3rd round cup tie even though i was'nt going anyway,but i'll turn up on Saturday cos we've got Everton at home. Demonstrating and not going to games and garlic bread-it's the way future[/p][/quote]baldie - what a load of 'tripe' - have you had one pill to many!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]I feel better now baldie
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9:29pm Mon 21 Jan 13

pbirty says...

godsake, what a load of `pish`, fans against fans, underachieving team, crap owners, small list of crap managers.lets look at the real picture. venkys are not, i repeat are not football people, they are business people. they will continue running rovers this way until the final parachute payment in two years time.after this they will sell, because they wont be able to milk any more millions out of us.`give them a chance` some posters say!!!!
we are being done over big time, and i cant see anything helping us but time.
godsake, what a load of `pish`, fans against fans, underachieving team, crap owners, small list of crap managers.lets look at the real picture. venkys are not, i repeat are not football people, they are business people. they will continue running rovers this way until the final parachute payment in two years time.after this they will sell, because they wont be able to milk any more millions out of us.`give them a chance` some posters say!!!! we are being done over big time, and i cant see anything helping us but time. pbirty
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9:56pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Is Eckersley playing? says...

wilpshireover wrote:
BBC website says Orr coming back. Oh Eck! He was too slow to catch a cold before.
Nowt to do with me, Wilpshire!
[quote][p][bold]wilpshireover[/bold] wrote: BBC website says Orr coming back. Oh Eck! He was too slow to catch a cold before.[/p][/quote]Nowt to do with me, Wilpshire! Is Eckersley playing?
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10:19pm Mon 21 Jan 13

blueblooded says...

pbirty wrote:
godsake, what a load of `pish`, fans against fans, underachieving team, crap owners, small list of crap managers.lets look at the real picture. venkys are not, i repeat are not football people, they are business people. they will continue running rovers this way until the final parachute payment in two years time.after this they will sell, because they wont be able to milk any more millions out of us.`give them a chance` some posters say!!!!
we are being done over big time, and i cant see anything helping us but time.
and I'll ask you the same question.

Business people will sell to who exactly?

some deluded fan trust with Rhodes weekly wage as their budget, or some property or retail developer who can offer them the millions they'd be asking for in your asset stripping scenario?

You know, business people as they are.

Answers on Tesco Extra postcard if you please.
[quote][p][bold]pbirty[/bold] wrote: godsake, what a load of `pish`, fans against fans, underachieving team, crap owners, small list of crap managers.lets look at the real picture. venkys are not, i repeat are not football people, they are business people. they will continue running rovers this way until the final parachute payment in two years time.after this they will sell, because they wont be able to milk any more millions out of us.`give them a chance` some posters say!!!! we are being done over big time, and i cant see anything helping us but time.[/p][/quote]and I'll ask you the same question. Business people will sell to who exactly? some deluded fan trust with Rhodes weekly wage as their budget, or some property or retail developer who can offer them the millions they'd be asking for in your asset stripping scenario? You know, business people as they are. Answers on Tesco Extra postcard if you please. blueblooded
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10:30pm Mon 21 Jan 13

baldie says...

See you ALL down there tomorrow.Lets start supporting this new manager.
See you ALL down there tomorrow.Lets start supporting this new manager. baldie
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11:35pm Mon 21 Jan 13

hornbypeggy says...

The only reason MA is getting so much stick without reason is the fact that if he fails Venkys fail and that is what everyone wants and not actually MA to fail, if that makes sense.

Lets go positive, yes Venkys have caused mayem here but lets give MA a chance.
The only reason MA is getting so much stick without reason is the fact that if he fails Venkys fail and that is what everyone wants and not actually MA to fail, if that makes sense. Lets go positive, yes Venkys have caused mayem here but lets give MA a chance. hornbypeggy
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12:44am Tue 22 Jan 13

Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
merlinrabbit wrote:
To.guy wrote:
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:
To.guy wrote:
Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder wrote:
A Darener wrote:
There is now no way back for the Venky's. they must realise after Saturday that they are not wanted. But to leave after 65 minutes was just to stick two fingers up to the fans. They are treating the fans with such disdain that even the lowest caste in India would not put up with them.
The fans that had chamted disgusting slogas at their offspring and then pelted them with snowballs you mean.
Grow up lad.
How many of those fans do you think there were? Have you considered that some of them might not even have been Rovers fans in the true sense e.g. they turned up for the trouble and went away without even going into the game. Have you wondered why Blackburn Rovers didn't anticipate trouble given that they allegedly advised Steve Kean to have 24/7 protection? Why then did they think it appropriate to allow 'fans' to gather in such close proximity to where the cars were pulling up and unloading when they could so easily and with common sense have blocked off that section for a short time? Did those organisers at the club not care enough? Had I been in charge, there is no way I would have had them unloading cars so close to a gathering crowd. It was senseless. They knew there wouldnt be a welcoming party. Who is in charge there now for safety and security? Flippin heck, they had more security measures at the ground last season when they were frisking us all for banners and chickens. I dont advocate aggression, abuse or anything although I can understand why fans feel so angry with Venkys, I wouldnt and dont voice that but you have to think outside the box on this one because some things dont add up.
What a crock, so some people who have no affiliation with the club turned up to cause trounle to make us look bad.
My goodness, what next Alien abduction. One conspiracy to far for me. It was Rovers fans making us look like a bunch of neanderthals.
But its okay isn't it because instead of ousting these mongs we will say they don't belong to us, they came from planet mongo and now they've gone back home.
Total embarrssment to the badge
I think some people on here, you included are getting so mixed up that you are finding it difficult to understand the point people make and you twist it in your own anger. No I didnt say it was ok, no I didnt say they were aliens. I suggested as a possibility that some people go where the trouble is. I saw some doing it on Saturday so dont think it is that unbelievable. What I was referring to about things not adding up was the organisation for Venkys arrival which I find completely baffling and wonder why Blackburn Rovers didnt care enough to protect them from it. They have taken all sorts of extreme measures to stop fans protesting in the last 2 years. Frisking, drowning out chants with loud music, confiscating banners not only at Ewood but at away grounds. I cant tolerate people like you. You accuse others of something you are guilty of. Insulting, attacking and thinking you are right.
Jarrod, you are the crock mate. Total embarrassment to the badge? You've only just crawled out of the woodwork since this small demonstration happened and a handful of people behaved badly. Some could say To guy is justified is saying some are only interested in the 'trouble' aspect. You are an example of that. You're never made one positive contribution to the football discussion on here. You havent even posted on here. You seem only interested in the trouble. You have gone right over the top and seem to be hell bent on making it worse than it was. Your whining on about it is getting really boring. I'm beginning to wonder whether you arent one who is stoking the battle. Talk about the football and show us you even know what the badge is.
He doesn't know what the badge is. He's a dingle doing a bit of stirring and having a laugh, don't fall for it
Grow up you tool, thats your answer to everything, you continually look a fool in every debate and so resort to calling people dingles. Try making a justifiable argument as to why it is okay to verbally abuse women and children, as I said yesterday, your certainly not from harwood street in Darwen, they wouldn't put up with your spineless insults down there, you'd be out.
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]merlinrabbit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]To.guy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]To.guy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: There is now no way back for the Venky's. they must realise after Saturday that they are not wanted. But to leave after 65 minutes was just to stick two fingers up to the fans. They are treating the fans with such disdain that even the lowest caste in India would not put up with them.[/p][/quote]The fans that had chamted disgusting slogas at their offspring and then pelted them with snowballs you mean. Grow up lad.[/p][/quote]How many of those fans do you think there were? Have you considered that some of them might not even have been Rovers fans in the true sense e.g. they turned up for the trouble and went away without even going into the game. Have you wondered why Blackburn Rovers didn't anticipate trouble given that they allegedly advised Steve Kean to have 24/7 protection? Why then did they think it appropriate to allow 'fans' to gather in such close proximity to where the cars were pulling up and unloading when they could so easily and with common sense have blocked off that section for a short time? Did those organisers at the club not care enough? Had I been in charge, there is no way I would have had them unloading cars so close to a gathering crowd. It was senseless. They knew there wouldnt be a welcoming party. Who is in charge there now for safety and security? Flippin heck, they had more security measures at the ground last season when they were frisking us all for banners and chickens. I dont advocate aggression, abuse or anything although I can understand why fans feel so angry with Venkys, I wouldnt and dont voice that but you have to think outside the box on this one because some things dont add up.[/p][/quote]What a crock, so some people who have no affiliation with the club turned up to cause trounle to make us look bad. My goodness, what next Alien abduction. One conspiracy to far for me. It was Rovers fans making us look like a bunch of neanderthals. But its okay isn't it because instead of ousting these mongs we will say they don't belong to us, they came from planet mongo and now they've gone back home. Total embarrssment to the badge[/p][/quote]I think some people on here, you included are getting so mixed up that you are finding it difficult to understand the point people make and you twist it in your own anger. No I didnt say it was ok, no I didnt say they were aliens. I suggested as a possibility that some people go where the trouble is. I saw some doing it on Saturday so dont think it is that unbelievable. What I was referring to about things not adding up was the organisation for Venkys arrival which I find completely baffling and wonder why Blackburn Rovers didnt care enough to protect them from it. They have taken all sorts of extreme measures to stop fans protesting in the last 2 years. Frisking, drowning out chants with loud music, confiscating banners not only at Ewood but at away grounds. I cant tolerate people like you. You accuse others of something you are guilty of. Insulting, attacking and thinking you are right.[/p][/quote]Jarrod, you are the crock mate. Total embarrassment to the badge? You've only just crawled out of the woodwork since this small demonstration happened and a handful of people behaved badly. Some could say To guy is justified is saying some are only interested in the 'trouble' aspect. You are an example of that. You're never made one positive contribution to the football discussion on here. You havent even posted on here. You seem only interested in the trouble. You have gone right over the top and seem to be hell bent on making it worse than it was. Your whining on about it is getting really boring. I'm beginning to wonder whether you arent one who is stoking the battle. Talk about the football and show us you even know what the badge is.[/p][/quote]He doesn't know what the badge is. He's a dingle doing a bit of stirring and having a laugh, don't fall for it[/p][/quote]Grow up you tool, thats your answer to everything, you continually look a fool in every debate and so resort to calling people dingles. Try making a justifiable argument as to why it is okay to verbally abuse women and children, as I said yesterday, your certainly not from harwood street in Darwen, they wouldn't put up with your spineless insults down there, you'd be out. Jarrod Schulz Bearded Wonder
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3:38am Tue 22 Jan 13

noddy57 says...

r30vrs wrote:
"We will keep you informed if anything changes".....I like the sound of that!
MA certainly comes across as a man with a plan, good luck we are all counting on you!!!!
dont be fooled by waffle, on the evidence available, this appy chappy has got his work well and truelly cut out,if he gets 3 points tomorrow,lol, then hes better than l thought, but l sense another loss for the simple reason the team are all over the place and appleton does not inspire me and l dont think he inspires the players either, talk is cheap,,lm a realist l go on results only,,and so should all the rovers fans,
[quote][p][bold]r30vrs[/bold] wrote: "We will keep you informed if anything changes".....I like the sound of that! MA certainly comes across as a man with a plan, good luck we are all counting on you!!!![/p][/quote]dont be fooled by waffle, on the evidence available, this appy chappy has got his work well and truelly cut out,if he gets 3 points tomorrow,lol, then hes better than l thought, but l sense another loss for the simple reason the team are all over the place and appleton does not inspire me and l dont think he inspires the players either, talk is cheap,,lm a realist l go on results only,,and so should all the rovers fans, noddy57
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3:50am Tue 22 Jan 13

Roverthere says...

Riverside 7 wrote:
Well lets start with clearing out the deadwood at the club and make way for new recruits and our own youngsters.

Givet - I used to like his enthusiasm and commitment but after his 2 fall outs with Kean and his heart problems he dosn't seem to be the same player.
He has not been first choice for our last 3 managers - Berg, Bowyer & now Appleton and he must be on big wages. SELL

Dunn - Whilst he is a true Rovers fan, we must not let this overshadow the fact that he simply does not play enough games. He has made just 6 appearances out of 29 games this season. I have seen players recover from cruciate ligament injuries quicker that Dunn does from a calf strain. PAY UP HIS CONTRACT - RELEASE

Formica - he is not even a regular in the Championship. Kean/JA paid £3.5M for him. We would be lucky to get £1M for him. Neverthelss - SELL

Portuguese contingent - of the 6 players that Shebby signed from Portugal, only Fabio Nunes has showed that he has a chance of making it in England.
Most of the Portuguese players have not featured, especially since the colder weather started in November.
Gomes was a classy player and after a bright start to the season he is certainly not justifying the huge wages he is on. SELL / RELEASE

Etuhu - unless Appleton can find a way for him to play along side Murphy (I believe that he has already spoken to Roy Hodgson about this) then he should also go. He is another on big wages and has not impressed.
SELL

Robinson - how does a 33 year old professional sportsman become so overweight. Answer - lack of commitment. SELL

Olsson - over-rated as a full back. In my opinion, his best position is left side of midfield. If we can get over £4M for him - SELL

Dann - has certainly been a big disappointment since his arrival for around £6M. He makes too many mistakes. If we can get over £4M I would SELL.

Slew - I understand that he is now back at the club but he has hardly featured in the first team squad. Bought by Kean as one for the future! SELL

I am sure that I have missed quite a few out, but it shows the size of the task that Appleton now has.

Good luck. You are going to need it.
Agreed, get the deadwood out!
[quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote: Well lets start with clearing out the deadwood at the club and make way for new recruits and our own youngsters. Givet - I used to like his enthusiasm and commitment but after his 2 fall outs with Kean and his heart problems he dosn't seem to be the same player. He has not been first choice for our last 3 managers - Berg, Bowyer & now Appleton and he must be on big wages. SELL Dunn - Whilst he is a true Rovers fan, we must not let this overshadow the fact that he simply does not play enough games. He has made just 6 appearances out of 29 games this season. I have seen players recover from cruciate ligament injuries quicker that Dunn does from a calf strain. PAY UP HIS CONTRACT - RELEASE Formica - he is not even a regular in the Championship. Kean/JA paid £3.5M for him. We would be lucky to get £1M for him. Neverthelss - SELL Portuguese contingent - of the 6 players that Shebby signed from Portugal, only Fabio Nunes has showed that he has a chance of making it in England. Most of the Portuguese players have not featured, especially since the colder weather started in November. Gomes was a classy player and after a bright start to the season he is certainly not justifying the huge wages he is on. SELL / RELEASE Etuhu - unless Appleton can find a way for him to play along side Murphy (I believe that he has already spoken to Roy Hodgson about this) then he should also go. He is another on big wages and has not impressed. SELL Robinson - how does a 33 year old professional sportsman become so overweight. Answer - lack of commitment. SELL Olsson - over-rated as a full back. In my opinion, his best position is left side of midfield. If we can get over £4M for him - SELL Dann - has certainly been a big disappointment since his arrival for around £6M. He makes too many mistakes. If we can get over £4M I would SELL. Slew - I understand that he is now back at the club but he has hardly featured in the first team squad. Bought by Kean as one for the future! SELL I am sure that I have missed quite a few out, but it shows the size of the task that Appleton now has. Good luck. You are going to need it.[/p][/quote]Agreed, get the deadwood out! Roverthere
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3:57am Tue 22 Jan 13

Roverthere says...

MxMave wrote:
Riverside 7 wrote:
Well lets start with clearing out the deadwood at the club and make way for new recruits and our own youngsters.

Givet - I used to like his enthusiasm and commitment but after his 2 fall outs with Kean and his heart problems he dosn't seem to be the same player.
He has not been first choice for our last 3 managers - Berg, Bowyer & now Appleton and he must be on big wages. SELL

Dunn - Whilst he is a true Rovers fan, we must not let this overshadow the fact that he simply does not play enough games. He has made just 6 appearances out of 29 games this season. I have seen players recover from cruciate ligament injuries quicker that Dunn does from a calf strain. PAY UP HIS CONTRACT - RELEASE

Formica - he is not even a regular in the Championship. Kean/JA paid £3.5M for him. We would be lucky to get £1M for him. Neverthelss - SELL

Portuguese contingent - of the 6 players that Shebby signed from Portugal, only Fabio Nunes has showed that he has a chance of making it in England.
Most of the Portuguese players have not featured, especially since the colder weather started in November.
Gomes was a classy player and after a bright start to the season he is certainly not justifying the huge wages he is on. SELL / RELEASE

Etuhu - unless Appleton can find a way for him to play along side Murphy (I believe that he has already spoken to Roy Hodgson about this) then he should also go. He is another on big wages and has not impressed.
SELL

Robinson - how does a 33 year old professional sportsman become so overweight. Answer - lack of commitment. SELL

Olsson - over-rated as a full back. In my opinion, his best position is left side of midfield. If we can get over £4M for him - SELL

Dann - has certainly been a big disappointment since his arrival for around £6M. He makes too many mistakes. If we can get over £4M I would SELL.

Slew - I understand that he is now back at the club but he has hardly featured in the first team squad. Bought by Kean as one for the future! SELL

I am sure that I have missed quite a few out, but it shows the size of the task that Appleton now has.

Good luck. You are going to need it.
Id disagree with Dann, Ollson & Formica. I think without them 3 we would be in a worse position than we find ourselves currently.

Still don't understand why everyone gets on Dann's back when hes playing alongside a young scottish lad who's not upto scratch. In fact i'd go as far as to say Dann is one of the best players we have, the rest of the squad makes him look worse. If you put Dann into a good team, he'd thrive.
Dann is not good enough, a loser!
[quote][p][bold]MxMave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote: Well lets start with clearing out the deadwood at the club and make way for new recruits and our own youngsters. Givet - I used to like his enthusiasm and commitment but after his 2 fall outs with Kean and his heart problems he dosn't seem to be the same player. He has not been first choice for our last 3 managers - Berg, Bowyer & now Appleton and he must be on big wages. SELL Dunn - Whilst he is a true Rovers fan, we must not let this overshadow the fact that he simply does not play enough games. He has made just 6 appearances out of 29 games this season. I have seen players recover from cruciate ligament injuries quicker that Dunn does from a calf strain. PAY UP HIS CONTRACT - RELEASE Formica - he is not even a regular in the Championship. Kean/JA paid £3.5M for him. We would be lucky to get £1M for him. Neverthelss - SELL Portuguese contingent - of the 6 players that Shebby signed from Portugal, only Fabio Nunes has showed that he has a chance of making it in England. Most of the Portuguese players have not featured, especially since the colder weather started in November. Gomes was a classy player and after a bright start to the season he is certainly not justifying the huge wages he is on. SELL / RELEASE Etuhu - unless Appleton can find a way for him to play along side Murphy (I believe that he has already spoken to Roy Hodgson about this) then he should also go. He is another on big wages and has not impressed. SELL Robinson - how does a 33 year old professional sportsman become so overweight. Answer - lack of commitment. SELL Olsson - over-rated as a full back. In my opinion, his best position is left side of midfield. If we can get over £4M for him - SELL Dann - has certainly been a big disappointment since his arrival for around £6M. He makes too many mistakes. If we can get over £4M I would SELL. Slew - I understand that he is now back at the club but he has hardly featured in the first team squad. Bought by Kean as one for the future! SELL I am sure that I have missed quite a few out, but it shows the size of the task that Appleton now has. Good luck. You are going to need it.[/p][/quote]Id disagree with Dann, Ollson & Formica. I think without them 3 we would be in a worse position than we find ourselves currently. Still don't understand why everyone gets on Dann's back when hes playing alongside a young scottish lad who's not upto scratch. In fact i'd go as far as to say Dann is one of the best players we have, the rest of the squad makes him look worse. If you put Dann into a good team, he'd thrive.[/p][/quote]Dann is not good enough, a loser! Roverthere
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5:10am Tue 22 Jan 13

reiko082 says...

Does it really matter who we sell and for how much. As if any significant money from those sales would be reinvested into the team...

It hasn't before, it won't now.

Nothing has changed...
Does it really matter who we sell and for how much. As if any significant money from those sales would be reinvested into the team... It hasn't before, it won't now. Nothing has changed... reiko082
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6:59am Tue 22 Jan 13

RoversOnline.com says...

mark anthony wrote:
Riverside 7 wrote:
Well lets start with clearing out the deadwood at the club and make way for new recruits and our own youngsters.

Givet - I used to like his enthusiasm and commitment but after his 2 fall outs with Kean and his heart problems he dosn't seem to be the same player.
He has not been first choice for our last 3 managers - Berg, Bowyer & now Appleton and he must be on big wages. SELL

Dunn - Whilst he is a true Rovers fan, we must not let this overshadow the fact that he simply does not play enough games. He has made just 6 appearances out of 29 games this season. I have seen players recover from cruciate ligament injuries quicker that Dunn does from a calf strain. PAY UP HIS CONTRACT - RELEASE

Formica - he is not even a regular in the Championship. Kean/JA paid £3.5M for him. We would be lucky to get £1M for him. Neverthelss - SELL

Portuguese contingent - of the 6 players that Shebby signed from Portugal, only Fabio Nunes has showed that he has a chance of making it in England.
Most of the Portuguese players have not featured, especially since the colder weather started in November.
Gomes was a classy player and after a bright start to the season he is certainly not justifying the huge wages he is on. SELL / RELEASE

Etuhu - unless Appleton can find a way for him to play along side Murphy (I believe that he has already spoken to Roy Hodgson about this) then he should also go. He is another on big wages and has not impressed.
SELL

Robinson - how does a 33 year old professional sportsman become so overweight. Answer - lack of commitment. SELL

Olsson - over-rated as a full back. In my opinion, his best position is left side of midfield. If we can get over £4M for him - SELL

Dann - has certainly been a big disappointment since his arrival for around £6M. He makes too many mistakes. If we can get over £4M I would SELL.

Slew - I understand that he is now back at the club but he has hardly featured in the first team squad. Bought by Kean as one for the future! SELL

I am sure that I have missed quite a few out, but it shows the size of the task that Appleton now has.

Good luck. You are going to need it.
SELL the lot of them
Who will buy them/take on their inflated wages?
[quote][p][bold]mark anthony[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Riverside 7[/bold] wrote: Well lets start with clearing out the deadwood at the club and make way for new recruits and our own youngsters. Givet - I used to like his enthusiasm and commitment but after his 2 fall outs with Kean and his heart problems he dosn't seem to be the same player. He has not been first choice for our last 3 managers - Berg, Bowyer & now Appleton and he must be on big wages. SELL Dunn - Whilst he is a true Rovers fan, we must not let this overshadow the fact that he simply does not play enough games. He has made just 6 appearances out of 29 games this season. I have seen players recover from cruciate ligament injuries quicker that Dunn does from a calf strain. PAY UP HIS CONTRACT - RELEASE Formica - he is not even a regular in the Championship. Kean/JA paid £3.5M for him. We would be lucky to get £1M for him. Neverthelss - SELL Portuguese contingent - of the 6 players that Shebby signed from Portugal, only Fabio Nunes has showed that he has a chance of making it in England. Most of the Portuguese players have not featured, especially since the colder weather started in November. Gomes was a classy player and after a bright start to the season he is certainly not justifying the huge wages he is on. SELL / RELEASE Etuhu - unless Appleton can find a way for him to play along side Murphy (I believe that he has already spoken to Roy Hodgson about this) then he should also go. He is another on big wages and has not impressed. SELL Robinson - how does a 33 year old professional sportsman become so overweight. Answer - lack of commitment. SELL Olsson - over-rated as a full back. In my opinion, his best position is left side of midfield. If we can get over £4M for him - SELL Dann - has certainly been a big disappointment since his arrival for around £6M. He makes too many mistakes. If we can get over £4M I would SELL. Slew - I understand that he is now back at the club but he has hardly featured in the first team squad. Bought by Kean as one for the future! SELL I am sure that I have missed quite a few out, but it shows the size of the task that Appleton now has. Good luck. You are going to need it.[/p][/quote]SELL the lot of them[/p][/quote]Who will buy them/take on their inflated wages? RoversOnline.com
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9:38am Tue 22 Jan 13

pbirty says...

blueblooded wrote:
pbirty wrote:
godsake, what a load of `pish`, fans against fans, underachieving team, crap owners, small list of crap managers.lets look at the real picture. venkys are not, i repeat are not football people, they are business people. they will continue running rovers this way until the final parachute payment in two years time.after this they will sell, because they wont be able to milk any more millions out of us.`give them a chance` some posters say!!!!
we are being done over big time, and i cant see anything helping us but time.
and I'll ask you the same question.

Business people will sell to who exactly?

some deluded fan trust with Rhodes weekly wage as their budget, or some property or retail developer who can offer them the millions they'd be asking for in your asset stripping scenario?

You know, business people as they are.

Answers on Tesco Extra postcard if you please.
BB my point is they dont care.i googled venkys once and they own 90 odd different companies. they made a collective `worth of company` valued at 1.5 billion.to them brfc are a commodity that is to be fleeced.its just work to them. why on earth should we expect anything different, they are not sugar daddies.they are not our saviours.i can not see anything changing until they cant make anymore money from us.its a hard thing to admit, but in my personal oppionion they are here until no money is left.they`ll sell for peanuts in the end,because that is all we`ll be worth. trouble is, history seems to back my thoughts!
[quote][p][bold]blueblooded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pbirty[/bold] wrote: godsake, what a load of `pish`, fans against fans, underachieving team, crap owners, small list of crap managers.lets look at the real picture. venkys are not, i repeat are not football people, they are business people. they will continue running rovers this way until the final parachute payment in two years time.after this they will sell, because they wont be able to milk any more millions out of us.`give them a chance` some posters say!!!! we are being done over big time, and i cant see anything helping us but time.[/p][/quote]and I'll ask you the same question. Business people will sell to who exactly? some deluded fan trust with Rhodes weekly wage as their budget, or some property or retail developer who can offer them the millions they'd be asking for in your asset stripping scenario? You know, business people as they are. Answers on Tesco Extra postcard if you please.[/p][/quote]BB my point is they dont care.i googled venkys once and they own 90 odd different companies. they made a collective `worth of company` valued at 1.5 billion.to them brfc are a commodity that is to be fleeced.its just work to them. why on earth should we expect anything different, they are not sugar daddies.they are not our saviours.i can not see anything changing until they cant make anymore money from us.its a hard thing to admit, but in my personal oppionion they are here until no money is left.they`ll sell for peanuts in the end,because that is all we`ll be worth. trouble is, history seems to back my thoughts! pbirty
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9:48am Tue 22 Jan 13

claret777 says...

Let's face it,the only reason Appleton is there is because he as doubled his contract and wages.Rhodes doubled his wages,Murphy 30 k a week 3 year contract and the rest.When will the time come when you have to sell to survive ?
Let's face it,the only reason Appleton is there is because he as doubled his contract and wages.Rhodes doubled his wages,Murphy 30 k a week 3 year contract and the rest.When will the time come when you have to sell to survive ? claret777
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6:21am Thu 24 Jan 13

RespectTheK-Dog says...

Appleton talks about "FRESHENING UP"

Well some freshening up is definitely required. May I suggest a team bonding race evening with the chivalrous Colin Hendry down the pub?

That'd get the boys refreshed. Drinking 12 pints with a wife beating, pension stealing, deadbeat, alcoholic whose only talent is for hitting people, is just what the club requires in the middle of a relegation dogfight.
Appleton talks about "FRESHENING UP" Well some freshening up is definitely required. May I suggest a team bonding race evening with the chivalrous Colin Hendry down the pub? That'd get the boys refreshed. Drinking 12 pints with a wife beating, pension stealing, deadbeat, alcoholic whose only talent is for hitting people, is just what the club requires in the middle of a relegation dogfight. RespectTheK-Dog
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