Blackburn Rovers column: Venky’s have to give new manager time

MICHAEL Appleton will be unveiled to the press today – finally – to mark the start of a regime that everyone hopes will finally turn the club’s fortunes around once and for all.

Enough has been said about the club’s owners over the past two years and it probably won’t be long before they hit the headlines again.

But, for now, let’s concentrate on what we all really care about – and that is the football.

You get the feeling the next few months are going to be a very important period in the club’s long-term future.

Supporters need to see real improvement on the field consistently – like they have for the past four games – to really start believing there is a way forward for their club.

Henning Berg knew promotion was the “minimum and maximum” – as Shebby Singh stated – this season and duly paid the price very quickly, when it became obvious he would not deliver.

You would not imagine Venky’s ambitions have changed and nor should they.

If Rovers are not promoted this season then there will surely have to be a dramatic change to the playing squad.

The big wages the players are currently on would not be sustainable, while many of the players will be looking for a move back to the big time.

Failure to get back into the Premier League at the first attempt – something that looks a tough task – should not automatically spell the end for the new man though.

As long as there are signs of potential and improvement then Appleton deserves a chance to get the project right.

The owners have backed him, they need to follow that through with real support – something Berg never got.

I have no doubt Appleton will get a good welcome from the fans at Ewood Park on Saturday.

The majority at least seem prepared to give him the chance he deserves – and they won’t let the minority drag them down.

Anything but 100 per cent backing for the new manager would be baffling and it is refreshing to see that most – not all admittedly – share that opinion.

Appleton has walked into the lion’s den.

Yes, he is being handsomely paid and yes, he knows exactly what he has let himself in for.

But we have to hope that this is third time lucky.

After the last two managers failed to work effectively under this chaotic regime, Rovers’ future lies with the hope that Appleton can.

He can only be judged on that.

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8:09am Thu 17 Jan 13

A Darener says...

Good luck to Michael. Let's hope his interview this afternoon shows the fans just what he is about. Unfortunately he will probably not be the problem but the back room disharmony.
Good luck to Michael. Let's hope his interview this afternoon shows the fans just what he is about. Unfortunately he will probably not be the problem but the back room disharmony. A Darener

8:23am Thu 17 Jan 13

1952 rover says...

And where is the backing he was promised by Shaw. Window closing soon.
More empty talk. Has anyone seen or herd from Shebby the talk-mister. ?
And where is the backing he was promised by Shaw. Window closing soon. More empty talk. Has anyone seen or herd from Shebby the talk-mister. ? 1952 rover

8:23am Thu 17 Jan 13

brown cow warrior says...

'You get the feeling the next few months are going to be a very important period'...........no sh!t Sherlock'. Amazing insight!!!!!!
'You get the feeling the next few months are going to be a very important period'...........no sh!t Sherlock'. Amazing insight!!!!!! brown cow warrior

8:25am Thu 17 Jan 13

kazluvsrovers says...

LET when you say big improvement on the field like the past four games you surely weren't involving the Wolves game in this because we were absolutely dreadful, lets hope Mr Appleton will see who the good, loyal players are and get rid of the greedy deadlegs, we have all got to give him our support and a good welcome on Saturday.
(providing the game isn't snowed off) ha ha!!
RTID
LET when you say big improvement on the field like the past four games you surely weren't involving the Wolves game in this because we were absolutely dreadful, lets hope Mr Appleton will see who the good, loyal players are and get rid of the greedy deadlegs, we have all got to give him our support and a good welcome on Saturday. (providing the game isn't snowed off) ha ha!! RTID kazluvsrovers

8:50am Thu 17 Jan 13

lusorover says...

Only those who want see the Club fail would not welcome the new manager wholeheartedly and maintain that support until such time as he proves to be unsuitable.

Henning Berg was given a great welcome and I expect that Michael Appleton will as well.

Those of us who want to see the Club start the long process of regaining self-respect and pride in what they do on and off the pitch will do everything possible to get behind the players and create the right atmosphere in the stadium.

The fans and the players must also give Appleton the time to get it right. Only the most optimistic would anticipate a return to the Premier this season. The realists amongst us shudder at the thought of the current squad being exposed to Premier League football.

All we can do for now is do what good fans do - get behind our team.
Only those who want see the Club fail would not welcome the new manager wholeheartedly and maintain that support until such time as he proves to be unsuitable. Henning Berg was given a great welcome and I expect that Michael Appleton will as well. Those of us who want to see the Club start the long process of regaining self-respect and pride in what they do on and off the pitch will do everything possible to get behind the players and create the right atmosphere in the stadium. The fans and the players must also give Appleton the time to get it right. Only the most optimistic would anticipate a return to the Premier this season. The realists amongst us shudder at the thought of the current squad being exposed to Premier League football. All we can do for now is do what good fans do - get behind our team. lusorover

8:59am Thu 17 Jan 13

Riverside 7 says...

lusorover wrote:
Only those who want see the Club fail would not welcome the new manager wholeheartedly and maintain that support until such time as he proves to be unsuitable.

Henning Berg was given a great welcome and I expect that Michael Appleton will as well.

Those of us who want to see the Club start the long process of regaining self-respect and pride in what they do on and off the pitch will do everything possible to get behind the players and create the right atmosphere in the stadium.

The fans and the players must also give Appleton the time to get it right. Only the most optimistic would anticipate a return to the Premier this season. The realists amongst us shudder at the thought of the current squad being exposed to Premier League football.

All we can do for now is do what good fans do - get behind our team.
Agreed Lusorover.

However that should not stop fans from voicing ther displeasure at the Venkys BEFORE (but not during the game) on Saturday.
[quote][p][bold]lusorover[/bold] wrote: Only those who want see the Club fail would not welcome the new manager wholeheartedly and maintain that support until such time as he proves to be unsuitable. Henning Berg was given a great welcome and I expect that Michael Appleton will as well. Those of us who want to see the Club start the long process of regaining self-respect and pride in what they do on and off the pitch will do everything possible to get behind the players and create the right atmosphere in the stadium. The fans and the players must also give Appleton the time to get it right. Only the most optimistic would anticipate a return to the Premier this season. The realists amongst us shudder at the thought of the current squad being exposed to Premier League football. All we can do for now is do what good fans do - get behind our team.[/p][/quote]Agreed Lusorover. However that should not stop fans from voicing ther displeasure at the Venkys BEFORE (but not during the game) on Saturday. Riverside 7

9:01am Thu 17 Jan 13

RoverTheHill says...

I will be amongst those cheering on the team at the weekend. "Madam" Desai's appearance is negligible at this point. If we really want promotion we have to start now, not in two or three games time.

Hopefully Appleton can get a positive performance and solid result out the team and begin what is going to be a long and dangerous path to shutting up certain fans on their "end of rovers" predictions and getting Rovers back into the Premier League.
I will be amongst those cheering on the team at the weekend. "Madam" Desai's appearance is negligible at this point. If we really want promotion we have to start now, not in two or three games time. Hopefully Appleton can get a positive performance and solid result out the team and begin what is going to be a long and dangerous path to shutting up certain fans on their "end of rovers" predictions and getting Rovers back into the Premier League. RoverTheHill

9:13am Thu 17 Jan 13

rovertoys says...

What are the odds now getting up?

Where is Shebby?
What are the odds now getting up? Where is Shebby? rovertoys

9:19am Thu 17 Jan 13

madrover says...

now is the time for the stay away fans to give it another bash regardless of the owners . It is about Blackburn Rovers our club that matters nothing else. The new manager needs support off us as well as the board . If we can all do this our club can finally move forward . COME ON YOU BLUES
now is the time for the stay away fans to give it another bash regardless of the owners . It is about Blackburn Rovers our club that matters nothing else. The new manager needs support off us as well as the board . If we can all do this our club can finally move forward . COME ON YOU BLUES madrover

9:43am Thu 17 Jan 13

BRFC0808 says...

"The owners have backed him, they need to follow that through with real support – something Berg never got" Did Berg told you stooge, why do u always have to curse the owners to win readers, apathy, huh!!!
You agreed with Berg's appointment, you agreed with his non-deliverence, you agreed with his sacking too then whats bothering you with "Support " eh...
Don't write crap to create readerships, publish something before you understand it..
Now what do you wanna say, don't sack Appleton even if we don't get promoted and blame the management for not sacking them!!!
"The owners have backed him, they need to follow that through with real support – something Berg never got" Did Berg told you stooge, why do u always have to curse the owners to win readers, apathy, huh!!! You agreed with Berg's appointment, you agreed with his non-deliverence, you agreed with his sacking too then whats bothering you with "Support " eh... Don't write crap to create readerships, publish something before you understand it.. Now what do you wanna say, don't sack Appleton even if we don't get promoted and blame the management for not sacking them!!! BRFC0808

9:47am Thu 17 Jan 13

bigste says...

There is a distinct silence from Shebby. See what the press conference brings.
There is a distinct silence from Shebby. See what the press conference brings. bigste

9:48am Thu 17 Jan 13

tugay please !! says...

Opinions are what football and life are about so why does everyone seem to slag each other off on here. I as a massive Rovers fan can understand all the views and frustration so live with it and do your own thing because in your eyes its right. Me !! well I think il do both by letting Venkeys have it big time because I can , and supporting the team I love. They can take away premier league football, good players and management but they cant and wont take away Blackburn Rovers and its memories good and bad from me.

Forever Rovers
Opinions are what football and life are about so why does everyone seem to slag each other off on here. I as a massive Rovers fan can understand all the views and frustration so live with it and do your own thing because in your eyes its right. Me !! well I think il do both by letting Venkeys have it big time because I can , and supporting the team I love. They can take away premier league football, good players and management but they cant and wont take away Blackburn Rovers and its memories good and bad from me. Forever Rovers tugay please !!

9:49am Thu 17 Jan 13

lancs1985 says...

time for appletown to go with the circus back to india perfectic manager goes to show the ambition of the club when there is much better managers out there what wanted the job

rip brfc
time for appletown to go with the circus back to india perfectic manager goes to show the ambition of the club when there is much better managers out there what wanted the job rip brfc lancs1985

9:50am Thu 17 Jan 13

Road Runner Road Runner says...

RoverTheHill wrote:
I will be amongst those cheering on the team at the weekend. "Madam" Desai's appearance is negligible at this point. If we really want promotion we have to start now, not in two or three games time.

Hopefully Appleton can get a positive performance and solid result out the team and begin what is going to be a long and dangerous path to shutting up certain fans on their "end of rovers" predictions and getting Rovers back into the Premier League.
Best RoverTheHill..

Arte et labore
[quote][p][bold]RoverTheHill[/bold] wrote: I will be amongst those cheering on the team at the weekend. "Madam" Desai's appearance is negligible at this point. If we really want promotion we have to start now, not in two or three games time. Hopefully Appleton can get a positive performance and solid result out the team and begin what is going to be a long and dangerous path to shutting up certain fans on their "end of rovers" predictions and getting Rovers back into the Premier League.[/p][/quote]Best RoverTheHill.. Arte et labore Road Runner Road Runner

9:52am Thu 17 Jan 13

lancs1985 says...

now its the time for the stay away fans to turn up at ewood n stand outside the ground on saturday n let this venkys scum no why yopur stood out there, total respect to the fans what arent daft like rest of us, its the only way there going to sell up stuborn indians
now its the time for the stay away fans to turn up at ewood n stand outside the ground on saturday n let this venkys scum no why yopur stood out there, total respect to the fans what arent daft like rest of us, its the only way there going to sell up stuborn indians lancs1985

10:14am Thu 17 Jan 13

MatthewCA says...

Best of LUCK
Best of LUCK MatthewCA

10:15am Thu 17 Jan 13

A Darener says...

MatthewCA wrote:
Best of LUCK
Thought you had gone into hibernation!
[quote][p][bold]MatthewCA[/bold] wrote: Best of LUCK[/p][/quote]Thought you had gone into hibernation! A Darener

10:16am Thu 17 Jan 13

glp says...

Sorry guys cannot see the stay away fans returning until there is a definate change in attitude by Venkys. Nothing as changed since last season. They are still getting rid of the senior players and replacing them with low costing kids. Still have a board of directors that spend more time argueing with each other than running the club. Have no intention of getting a decent experienced manager. Still do not communicate with or show any interest in the clubs fan base
Sorry guys cannot see the stay away fans returning until there is a definate change in attitude by Venkys. Nothing as changed since last season. They are still getting rid of the senior players and replacing them with low costing kids. Still have a board of directors that spend more time argueing with each other than running the club. Have no intention of getting a decent experienced manager. Still do not communicate with or show any interest in the clubs fan base glp

10:18am Thu 17 Jan 13

arteetlabore says...

In February 1958 I couldn’t get into Ewood to see a Cup replay, because the gates were closed; there were over 37,000 there - on a pre-floodlights Wednesday afternoon.
I've been to many matches at Ewood with gates of under 7,000, sometimes under 5,000.
I've stood at urinals in the rain, in full view of terraces above.
I've stood and sat in crumbling, probably dangerous stands.
I've paid £7.10 shillings for a junior season ticket.
I've paid £49 for one match.
I've served under twenty-four managers.
I've seen the Rovers at Wembley five times and at Cardiff twice.
I've seen them relegated five times.
I've seen them promoted five times.
I've seen us win at Anfield and Old Trafford.
I've seen us beaten at home by Bury.
I've revelled in the Jack Walker years.
I've watched the new Ewood rise.
I've sat in Anfield to see us win the Premiership.
I've seen my friends see Burnley won the First Division title.
I've seen us in the relegation places in the third division...
...then go fifteen matches with fourteen wins and one draw to win promotion.
I've heard much rubbish shouted by spectators.
I've shouted much rubbish.

BUT - despite all of the above I've never influenced by one jot any decisions about the running of the club. My opinions have not been required. I may be a fan, a loyal supporter, but at bottom I’m really just a customer. Any sensible business asks for and takes note of their customers’ opinions. But football’s best friends would never say it’s a sensible business.

ALL THINGS MUST PASS!
In February 1958 I couldn’t get into Ewood to see a Cup replay, because the gates were closed; there were over 37,000 there - on a pre-floodlights Wednesday afternoon. I've been to many matches at Ewood with gates of under 7,000, sometimes under 5,000. I've stood at urinals in the rain, in full view of terraces above. I've stood and sat in crumbling, probably dangerous stands. I've paid £7.10 shillings for a junior season ticket. I've paid £49 for one match. I've served under twenty-four managers. I've seen the Rovers at Wembley five times and at Cardiff twice. I've seen them relegated five times. I've seen them promoted five times. I've seen us win at Anfield and Old Trafford. I've seen us beaten at home by Bury. I've revelled in the Jack Walker years. I've watched the new Ewood rise. I've sat in Anfield to see us win the Premiership. I've seen my friends see Burnley won the First Division title. I've seen us in the relegation places in the third division... ...then go fifteen matches with fourteen wins and one draw to win promotion. I've heard much rubbish shouted by spectators. I've shouted much rubbish. BUT - despite all of the above I've never influenced by one jot any decisions about the running of the club. My opinions have not been required. I may be a fan, a loyal supporter, but at bottom I’m really just a customer. Any sensible business asks for and takes note of their customers’ opinions. But football’s best friends would never say it’s a sensible business. ALL THINGS MUST PASS! arteetlabore

10:25am Thu 17 Jan 13

forever blue and white says...

lancs1985 wrote:
now its the time for the stay away fans to turn up at ewood n stand outside the ground on saturday n let this venkys scum no why yopur stood out there, total respect to the fans what arent daft like rest of us, its the only way there going to sell up stuborn indians
Sell to who??? If you dont want to support dont that is your choice but please stop venting on here. You only need to read the majority of posters on here that are supporting Rovers and only a handful that post over and over again about how bad everything is. If you are not happy stay away. That is from Ewood and off here as well. Your boring spouting the same tripe all the time. Take Dangerous Dave with you as well please.
[quote][p][bold]lancs1985[/bold] wrote: now its the time for the stay away fans to turn up at ewood n stand outside the ground on saturday n let this venkys scum no why yopur stood out there, total respect to the fans what arent daft like rest of us, its the only way there going to sell up stuborn indians[/p][/quote]Sell to who??? If you dont want to support dont that is your choice but please stop venting on here. You only need to read the majority of posters on here that are supporting Rovers and only a handful that post over and over again about how bad everything is. If you are not happy stay away. That is from Ewood and off here as well. Your boring spouting the same tripe all the time. Take Dangerous Dave with you as well please. forever blue and white

10:32am Thu 17 Jan 13

A Rover 45 years and over says...

Shebby might be a problem whilst he is still around since his arch enemies have got one up on him with the appointment of Appleton.
Shebby might be a problem whilst he is still around since his arch enemies have got one up on him with the appointment of Appleton. A Rover 45 years and over

10:40am Thu 17 Jan 13

Dukes says...

VENKYS OUT ,And Appleton will fail sadly and its a cheap option and he will struggle - this job needed a experience person in.
VENKYS OUT ,And Appleton will fail sadly and its a cheap option and he will struggle - this job needed a experience person in. Dukes

11:24am Thu 17 Jan 13

upholland rover says...

I notice these deluded people who claim we should have got an experienced manager never quote names. Why? Because there is no one of the type they want. Appleton is as good as we could expect and with support he could be a real success. Support is the key word!
I notice these deluded people who claim we should have got an experienced manager never quote names. Why? Because there is no one of the type they want. Appleton is as good as we could expect and with support he could be a real success. Support is the key word! upholland rover

11:24am Thu 17 Jan 13

upholland rover says...

I notice these deluded people who claim we should have got an experienced manager never quote names. Why? Because there is no one of the type they want. Appleton is as good as we could expect and with support he could be a real success. Support is the key word!
I notice these deluded people who claim we should have got an experienced manager never quote names. Why? Because there is no one of the type they want. Appleton is as good as we could expect and with support he could be a real success. Support is the key word! upholland rover

12:07pm Thu 17 Jan 13

BlueSkies says...

forever blue and white wrote:
lancs1985 wrote:
now its the time for the stay away fans to turn up at ewood n stand outside the ground on saturday n let this venkys scum no why yopur stood out there, total respect to the fans what arent daft like rest of us, its the only way there going to sell up stuborn indians
Sell to who??? If you dont want to support dont that is your choice but please stop venting on here. You only need to read the majority of posters on here that are supporting Rovers and only a handful that post over and over again about how bad everything is. If you are not happy stay away. That is from Ewood and off here as well. Your boring spouting the same tripe all the time. Take Dangerous Dave with you as well please.
Just gonna post similar, what a kn ob jockey.
[quote][p][bold]forever blue and white[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lancs1985[/bold] wrote: now its the time for the stay away fans to turn up at ewood n stand outside the ground on saturday n let this venkys scum no why yopur stood out there, total respect to the fans what arent daft like rest of us, its the only way there going to sell up stuborn indians[/p][/quote]Sell to who??? If you dont want to support dont that is your choice but please stop venting on here. You only need to read the majority of posters on here that are supporting Rovers and only a handful that post over and over again about how bad everything is. If you are not happy stay away. That is from Ewood and off here as well. Your boring spouting the same tripe all the time. Take Dangerous Dave with you as well please.[/p][/quote]Just gonna post similar, what a kn ob jockey. BlueSkies

12:43pm Thu 17 Jan 13

submin01 says...

lancs1985 wrote:
now its the time for the stay away fans to turn up at ewood n stand outside the ground on saturday n let this venkys scum no why yopur stood out there, total respect to the fans what arent daft like rest of us, its the only way there going to sell up stuborn indians
What an excellent insight into the the thinking of the minority, the logic is plain for all to see. Brainless.
[quote][p][bold]lancs1985[/bold] wrote: now its the time for the stay away fans to turn up at ewood n stand outside the ground on saturday n let this venkys scum no why yopur stood out there, total respect to the fans what arent daft like rest of us, its the only way there going to sell up stuborn indians[/p][/quote]What an excellent insight into the the thinking of the minority, the logic is plain for all to see. Brainless. submin01

1:00pm Thu 17 Jan 13

merlinrabbit says...

Fingers crossed Appleton has some ground rules for managing under this lot and will not join in their charade like Kean did or suffer from it like Berg.
Fingers crossed Appleton has some ground rules for managing under this lot and will not join in their charade like Kean did or suffer from it like Berg. merlinrabbit

1:03pm Thu 17 Jan 13

AndyW says...

arteetlabore wrote:
In February 1958 I couldn’t get into Ewood to see a Cup replay, because the gates were closed; there were over 37,000 there - on a pre-floodlights Wednesday afternoon.
I've been to many matches at Ewood with gates of under 7,000, sometimes under 5,000.
I've stood at urinals in the rain, in full view of terraces above.
I've stood and sat in crumbling, probably dangerous stands.
I've paid £7.10 shillings for a junior season ticket.
I've paid £49 for one match.
I've served under twenty-four managers.
I've seen the Rovers at Wembley five times and at Cardiff twice.
I've seen them relegated five times.
I've seen them promoted five times.
I've seen us win at Anfield and Old Trafford.
I've seen us beaten at home by Bury.
I've revelled in the Jack Walker years.
I've watched the new Ewood rise.
I've sat in Anfield to see us win the Premiership.
I've seen my friends see Burnley won the First Division title.
I've seen us in the relegation places in the third division...
...then go fifteen matches with fourteen wins and one draw to win promotion.
I've heard much rubbish shouted by spectators.
I've shouted much rubbish.

BUT - despite all of the above I've never influenced by one jot any decisions about the running of the club. My opinions have not been required. I may be a fan, a loyal supporter, but at bottom I’m really just a customer. Any sensible business asks for and takes note of their customers’ opinions. But football’s best friends would never say it’s a sensible business.

ALL THINGS MUST PASS!
You must be properly old.
[quote][p][bold]arteetlabore[/bold] wrote: In February 1958 I couldn’t get into Ewood to see a Cup replay, because the gates were closed; there were over 37,000 there - on a pre-floodlights Wednesday afternoon. I've been to many matches at Ewood with gates of under 7,000, sometimes under 5,000. I've stood at urinals in the rain, in full view of terraces above. I've stood and sat in crumbling, probably dangerous stands. I've paid £7.10 shillings for a junior season ticket. I've paid £49 for one match. I've served under twenty-four managers. I've seen the Rovers at Wembley five times and at Cardiff twice. I've seen them relegated five times. I've seen them promoted five times. I've seen us win at Anfield and Old Trafford. I've seen us beaten at home by Bury. I've revelled in the Jack Walker years. I've watched the new Ewood rise. I've sat in Anfield to see us win the Premiership. I've seen my friends see Burnley won the First Division title. I've seen us in the relegation places in the third division... ...then go fifteen matches with fourteen wins and one draw to win promotion. I've heard much rubbish shouted by spectators. I've shouted much rubbish. BUT - despite all of the above I've never influenced by one jot any decisions about the running of the club. My opinions have not been required. I may be a fan, a loyal supporter, but at bottom I’m really just a customer. Any sensible business asks for and takes note of their customers’ opinions. But football’s best friends would never say it’s a sensible business. ALL THINGS MUST PASS![/p][/quote]You must be properly old. AndyW

1:07pm Thu 17 Jan 13

tiojo says...

There is more to it than the usual platitude about the manager being given time. It won't matter how much time Mr Appleton gets unless he is allowed, indeed supported, in his management. That means getting rid of unwanted and uninformed influence from the 'global adviser' and putting in place a management team with greater ambition and experience than keeping the club afloat in the Championship.
There is more to it than the usual platitude about the manager being given time. It won't matter how much time Mr Appleton gets unless he is allowed, indeed supported, in his management. That means getting rid of unwanted and uninformed influence from the 'global adviser' and putting in place a management team with greater ambition and experience than keeping the club afloat in the Championship. tiojo

1:13pm Thu 17 Jan 13

MxMave says...

Yes lets all back him because we didnt do that with Black, Berg or Bowyer, that will surely make the difference. Support him or boo him, the result will be the same, mid-table mediocrity, fact.
Yes lets all back him because we didnt do that with Black, Berg or Bowyer, that will surely make the difference. Support him or boo him, the result will be the same, mid-table mediocrity, fact. MxMave

1:15pm Thu 17 Jan 13

moh says...

1952 rover wrote:
And where is the backing he was promised by Shaw. Window closing soon. More empty talk. Has anyone seen or herd from Shebby the talk-mister. ?
looks like at least we were getting some infor from Mr Singh before his wings were clipped. Agnew and Shaw seem to have a problem communicating, the shambles goes on.
[quote][p][bold]1952 rover[/bold] wrote: And where is the backing he was promised by Shaw. Window closing soon. More empty talk. Has anyone seen or herd from Shebby the talk-mister. ?[/p][/quote]looks like at least we were getting some infor from Mr Singh before his wings were clipped. Agnew and Shaw seem to have a problem communicating, the shambles goes on. moh

1:17pm Thu 17 Jan 13

MxMave says...

AndyW wrote:
arteetlabore wrote:
In February 1958 I couldn’t get into Ewood to see a Cup replay, because the gates were closed; there were over 37,000 there - on a pre-floodlights Wednesday afternoon.
I've been to many matches at Ewood with gates of under 7,000, sometimes under 5,000.
I've stood at urinals in the rain, in full view of terraces above.
I've stood and sat in crumbling, probably dangerous stands.
I've paid £7.10 shillings for a junior season ticket.
I've paid £49 for one match.
I've served under twenty-four managers.
I've seen the Rovers at Wembley five times and at Cardiff twice.
I've seen them relegated five times.
I've seen them promoted five times.
I've seen us win at Anfield and Old Trafford.
I've seen us beaten at home by Bury.
I've revelled in the Jack Walker years.
I've watched the new Ewood rise.
I've sat in Anfield to see us win the Premiership.
I've seen my friends see Burnley won the First Division title.
I've seen us in the relegation places in the third division...
...then go fifteen matches with fourteen wins and one draw to win promotion.
I've heard much rubbish shouted by spectators.
I've shouted much rubbish.

BUT - despite all of the above I've never influenced by one jot any decisions about the running of the club. My opinions have not been required. I may be a fan, a loyal supporter, but at bottom I’m really just a customer. Any sensible business asks for and takes note of their customers’ opinions. But football’s best friends would never say it’s a sensible business.

ALL THINGS MUST PASS!
You must be properly old.
ar - et teet be la bore.
[quote][p][bold]AndyW[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]arteetlabore[/bold] wrote: In February 1958 I couldn’t get into Ewood to see a Cup replay, because the gates were closed; there were over 37,000 there - on a pre-floodlights Wednesday afternoon. I've been to many matches at Ewood with gates of under 7,000, sometimes under 5,000. I've stood at urinals in the rain, in full view of terraces above. I've stood and sat in crumbling, probably dangerous stands. I've paid £7.10 shillings for a junior season ticket. I've paid £49 for one match. I've served under twenty-four managers. I've seen the Rovers at Wembley five times and at Cardiff twice. I've seen them relegated five times. I've seen them promoted five times. I've seen us win at Anfield and Old Trafford. I've seen us beaten at home by Bury. I've revelled in the Jack Walker years. I've watched the new Ewood rise. I've sat in Anfield to see us win the Premiership. I've seen my friends see Burnley won the First Division title. I've seen us in the relegation places in the third division... ...then go fifteen matches with fourteen wins and one draw to win promotion. I've heard much rubbish shouted by spectators. I've shouted much rubbish. BUT - despite all of the above I've never influenced by one jot any decisions about the running of the club. My opinions have not been required. I may be a fan, a loyal supporter, but at bottom I’m really just a customer. Any sensible business asks for and takes note of their customers’ opinions. But football’s best friends would never say it’s a sensible business. ALL THINGS MUST PASS![/p][/quote]You must be properly old.[/p][/quote]ar - et teet be la bore. MxMave

1:18pm Thu 17 Jan 13

silowe29 says...

lancs1985 wrote:
time for appletown to go with the circus back to india perfectic manager goes to show the ambition of the club when there is much better managers out there what wanted the job

rip brfc
"perfectic" ??! A cross between perfect and pathetic perhaps!

There was me thinking the club had decided against a press conference to unveil Appleton - it has taken so long to arrange it seems!

Good luck to MA and whoever he brings in but I do feel Bowyer warranted more time at the helm, especially as he had the players motivated and they respected him and what he has done.
[quote][p][bold]lancs1985[/bold] wrote: time for appletown to go with the circus back to india perfectic manager goes to show the ambition of the club when there is much better managers out there what wanted the job rip brfc[/p][/quote]"perfectic" ??! A cross between perfect and pathetic perhaps! There was me thinking the club had decided against a press conference to unveil Appleton - it has taken so long to arrange it seems! Good luck to MA and whoever he brings in but I do feel Bowyer warranted more time at the helm, especially as he had the players motivated and they respected him and what he has done. silowe29

2:03pm Thu 17 Jan 13

French Rover says...

arteetlabore wrote:
In February 1958 I couldn’t get into Ewood to see a Cup replay, because the gates were closed; there were over 37,000 there - on a pre-floodlights Wednesday afternoon.
I've been to many matches at Ewood with gates of under 7,000, sometimes under 5,000.
I've stood at urinals in the rain, in full view of terraces above.
I've stood and sat in crumbling, probably dangerous stands.
I've paid £7.10 shillings for a junior season ticket.
I've paid £49 for one match.
I've served under twenty-four managers.
I've seen the Rovers at Wembley five times and at Cardiff twice.
I've seen them relegated five times.
I've seen them promoted five times.
I've seen us win at Anfield and Old Trafford.
I've seen us beaten at home by Bury.
I've revelled in the Jack Walker years.
I've watched the new Ewood rise.
I've sat in Anfield to see us win the Premiership.
I've seen my friends see Burnley won the First Division title.
I've seen us in the relegation places in the third division...
...then go fifteen matches with fourteen wins and one draw to win promotion.
I've heard much rubbish shouted by spectators.
I've shouted much rubbish.

BUT - despite all of the above I've never influenced by one jot any decisions about the running of the club. My opinions have not been required. I may be a fan, a loyal supporter, but at bottom I’m really just a customer. Any sensible business asks for and takes note of their customers’ opinions. But football’s best friends would never say it’s a sensible business.

ALL THINGS MUST PASS!
Great memories there Artetlabore.....my first game at Ewood was in 1958 but I was only a nipper then. I can probably tick the boxes of around 75% of the things that you mentioned in your post but tip my hat to you sir.

Bit unsure why being beat by Bury featured in your memories - I saw us beaten by Workington 5-1 at Ewood in the League Cup in 65 and that was the bottom point for me - plus a home defeat to Rochdale at Ewood with less than 4k on I think in 70 or 71..
[quote][p][bold]arteetlabore[/bold] wrote: In February 1958 I couldn’t get into Ewood to see a Cup replay, because the gates were closed; there were over 37,000 there - on a pre-floodlights Wednesday afternoon. I've been to many matches at Ewood with gates of under 7,000, sometimes under 5,000. I've stood at urinals in the rain, in full view of terraces above. I've stood and sat in crumbling, probably dangerous stands. I've paid £7.10 shillings for a junior season ticket. I've paid £49 for one match. I've served under twenty-four managers. I've seen the Rovers at Wembley five times and at Cardiff twice. I've seen them relegated five times. I've seen them promoted five times. I've seen us win at Anfield and Old Trafford. I've seen us beaten at home by Bury. I've revelled in the Jack Walker years. I've watched the new Ewood rise. I've sat in Anfield to see us win the Premiership. I've seen my friends see Burnley won the First Division title. I've seen us in the relegation places in the third division... ...then go fifteen matches with fourteen wins and one draw to win promotion. I've heard much rubbish shouted by spectators. I've shouted much rubbish. BUT - despite all of the above I've never influenced by one jot any decisions about the running of the club. My opinions have not been required. I may be a fan, a loyal supporter, but at bottom I’m really just a customer. Any sensible business asks for and takes note of their customers’ opinions. But football’s best friends would never say it’s a sensible business. ALL THINGS MUST PASS![/p][/quote]Great memories there Artetlabore.....my first game at Ewood was in 1958 but I was only a nipper then. I can probably tick the boxes of around 75% of the things that you mentioned in your post but tip my hat to you sir. Bit unsure why being beat by Bury featured in your memories - I saw us beaten by Workington 5-1 at Ewood in the League Cup in 65 and that was the bottom point for me - plus a home defeat to Rochdale at Ewood with less than 4k on I think in 70 or 71.. French Rover

4:46pm Thu 17 Jan 13

pbirty says...

time to be optimistic (again)!.
time to be optimistic (again)!. pbirty

5:15pm Thu 17 Jan 13

mcleodj says...

arteetlabore wrote:
In February 1958 I couldn’t get into Ewood to see a Cup replay, because the gates were closed; there were over 37,000 there - on a pre-floodlights Wednesday afternoon.
I've been to many matches at Ewood with gates of under 7,000, sometimes under 5,000.
I've stood at urinals in the rain, in full view of terraces above.
I've stood and sat in crumbling, probably dangerous stands.
I've paid £7.10 shillings for a junior season ticket.
I've paid £49 for one match.
I've served under twenty-four managers.
I've seen the Rovers at Wembley five times and at Cardiff twice.
I've seen them relegated five times.
I've seen them promoted five times.
I've seen us win at Anfield and Old Trafford.
I've seen us beaten at home by Bury.
I've revelled in the Jack Walker years.
I've watched the new Ewood rise.
I've sat in Anfield to see us win the Premiership.
I've seen my friends see Burnley won the First Division title.
I've seen us in the relegation places in the third division...
...then go fifteen matches with fourteen wins and one draw to win promotion.
I've heard much rubbish shouted by spectators.
I've shouted much rubbish.

BUT - despite all of the above I've never influenced by one jot any decisions about the running of the club. My opinions have not been required. I may be a fan, a loyal supporter, but at bottom I’m really just a customer. Any sensible business asks for and takes note of their customers’ opinions. But football’s best friends would never say it’s a sensible business.

ALL THINGS MUST PASS!
As we/they say in Australia: "Good on yr' mate!"
I can't match arteetlabore's record, but I do have a piece of the pale blue ribbon which adorned the F.A. Cup when we won it in 1928 - and my dad took me to the celebration reception at Blackburn Town Hall; was a season ticket holder for years; came over from Canada for that memorable climax at Anfield when we won the Premier League Championship, etc., etc.
jacmac
[quote][p][bold]arteetlabore[/bold] wrote: In February 1958 I couldn’t get into Ewood to see a Cup replay, because the gates were closed; there were over 37,000 there - on a pre-floodlights Wednesday afternoon. I've been to many matches at Ewood with gates of under 7,000, sometimes under 5,000. I've stood at urinals in the rain, in full view of terraces above. I've stood and sat in crumbling, probably dangerous stands. I've paid £7.10 shillings for a junior season ticket. I've paid £49 for one match. I've served under twenty-four managers. I've seen the Rovers at Wembley five times and at Cardiff twice. I've seen them relegated five times. I've seen them promoted five times. I've seen us win at Anfield and Old Trafford. I've seen us beaten at home by Bury. I've revelled in the Jack Walker years. I've watched the new Ewood rise. I've sat in Anfield to see us win the Premiership. I've seen my friends see Burnley won the First Division title. I've seen us in the relegation places in the third division... ...then go fifteen matches with fourteen wins and one draw to win promotion. I've heard much rubbish shouted by spectators. I've shouted much rubbish. BUT - despite all of the above I've never influenced by one jot any decisions about the running of the club. My opinions have not been required. I may be a fan, a loyal supporter, but at bottom I’m really just a customer. Any sensible business asks for and takes note of their customers’ opinions. But football’s best friends would never say it’s a sensible business. ALL THINGS MUST PASS![/p][/quote]As we/they say in Australia: "Good on yr' mate!" I can't match arteetlabore's record, but I do have a piece of the pale blue ribbon which adorned the F.A. Cup when we won it in 1928 - and my dad took me to the celebration reception at Blackburn Town Hall; was a season ticket holder for years; came over from Canada for that memorable climax at Anfield when we won the Premier League Championship, etc., etc. jacmac mcleodj

10:16pm Thu 17 Jan 13

noddy57 says...

A Darener wrote:
Good luck to Michael. Let's hope his interview this afternoon shows the fans just what he is about. Unfortunately he will probably not be the problem but the back room disharmony.
appleton will only be given time if he gets results, its that simple, me l give him 2 months,why ? you may say, his win ratio stinks,simple,
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Good luck to Michael. Let's hope his interview this afternoon shows the fans just what he is about. Unfortunately he will probably not be the problem but the back room disharmony.[/p][/quote]appleton will only be given time if he gets results, its that simple, me l give him 2 months,why ? you may say, his win ratio stinks,simple, noddy57

10:16pm Thu 17 Jan 13

Old Alzheimer says...

brown cow warrior wrote:
'You get the feeling the next few months are going to be a very important period'...........no sh!t Sherlock'. Amazing insight!!!!!!
Too right 'brown cow warrior'.

It even makes me think that the Rovers future may be better in Venkys hands rather than those of media folk who just shine their breeches arses thinking about something to write before the next deadline !!

P.S. I am well aware that Venkys have made enormous mistakes in the past two years.
[quote][p][bold]brown cow warrior[/bold] wrote: 'You get the feeling the next few months are going to be a very important period'...........no sh!t Sherlock'. Amazing insight!!!!!![/p][/quote]Too right 'brown cow warrior'. It even makes me think that the Rovers future may be better in Venkys hands rather than those of media folk who just shine their breeches arses thinking about something to write before the next deadline !! P.S. I am well aware that Venkys have made enormous mistakes in the past two years. Old Alzheimer

11:00pm Thu 17 Jan 13

arteetlabore says...

French Rover wrote:
arteetlabore wrote: In February 1958 I couldn’t get into Ewood to see a Cup replay, because the gates were closed; there were over 37,000 there - on a pre-floodlights Wednesday afternoon. I've been to many matches at Ewood with gates of under 7,000, sometimes under 5,000. I've stood at urinals in the rain, in full view of terraces above. I've stood and sat in crumbling, probably dangerous stands. I've paid £7.10 shillings for a junior season ticket. I've paid £49 for one match. I've served under twenty-four managers. I've seen the Rovers at Wembley five times and at Cardiff twice. I've seen them relegated five times. I've seen them promoted five times. I've seen us win at Anfield and Old Trafford. I've seen us beaten at home by Bury. I've revelled in the Jack Walker years. I've watched the new Ewood rise. I've sat in Anfield to see us win the Premiership. I've seen my friends see Burnley won the First Division title. I've seen us in the relegation places in the third division... ...then go fifteen matches with fourteen wins and one draw to win promotion. I've heard much rubbish shouted by spectators. I've shouted much rubbish. BUT - despite all of the above I've never influenced by one jot any decisions about the running of the club. My opinions have not been required. I may be a fan, a loyal supporter, but at bottom I’m really just a customer. Any sensible business asks for and takes note of their customers’ opinions. But football’s best friends would never say it’s a sensible business. ALL THINGS MUST PASS!
Great memories there Artetlabore.....my first game at Ewood was in 1958 but I was only a nipper then. I can probably tick the boxes of around 75% of the things that you mentioned in your post but tip my hat to you sir. Bit unsure why being beat by Bury featured in your memories - I saw us beaten by Workington 5-1 at Ewood in the League Cup in 65 and that was the bottom point for me - plus a home defeat to Rochdale at Ewood with less than 4k on I think in 70 or 71..
Oooh, I wish I'd remembered that!

My excuse is that I was a student in London at the time, so it mustn't have registered so strongly on the trauma area of my brain - all those drugs and free love, tha knows...
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]arteetlabore[/bold] wrote: In February 1958 I couldn’t get into Ewood to see a Cup replay, because the gates were closed; there were over 37,000 there - on a pre-floodlights Wednesday afternoon. I've been to many matches at Ewood with gates of under 7,000, sometimes under 5,000. I've stood at urinals in the rain, in full view of terraces above. I've stood and sat in crumbling, probably dangerous stands. I've paid £7.10 shillings for a junior season ticket. I've paid £49 for one match. I've served under twenty-four managers. I've seen the Rovers at Wembley five times and at Cardiff twice. I've seen them relegated five times. I've seen them promoted five times. I've seen us win at Anfield and Old Trafford. I've seen us beaten at home by Bury. I've revelled in the Jack Walker years. I've watched the new Ewood rise. I've sat in Anfield to see us win the Premiership. I've seen my friends see Burnley won the First Division title. I've seen us in the relegation places in the third division... ...then go fifteen matches with fourteen wins and one draw to win promotion. I've heard much rubbish shouted by spectators. I've shouted much rubbish. BUT - despite all of the above I've never influenced by one jot any decisions about the running of the club. My opinions have not been required. I may be a fan, a loyal supporter, but at bottom I’m really just a customer. Any sensible business asks for and takes note of their customers’ opinions. But football’s best friends would never say it’s a sensible business. ALL THINGS MUST PASS![/p][/quote]Great memories there Artetlabore.....my first game at Ewood was in 1958 but I was only a nipper then. I can probably tick the boxes of around 75% of the things that you mentioned in your post but tip my hat to you sir. Bit unsure why being beat by Bury featured in your memories - I saw us beaten by Workington 5-1 at Ewood in the League Cup in 65 and that was the bottom point for me - plus a home defeat to Rochdale at Ewood with less than 4k on I think in 70 or 71..[/p][/quote]Oooh, I wish I'd remembered that! My excuse is that I was a student in London at the time, so it mustn't have registered so strongly on the trauma area of my brain - all those drugs and free love, tha knows... arteetlabore

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