Bowyer to continue as Blackburn Rovers caretaker

THREE WISE MEN Rovers trio of goalscorers Jordan Rhodes, Colin Kazim-Richards and Ruben Rochina celebrate the Spaniard’s opening goal

THREE WISE MEN Rovers trio of goalscorers Jordan Rhodes, Colin Kazim-Richards and Ruben Rochina celebrate the Spaniard’s opening goal

First published in Sport Lancashire Telegraph: Photograph of the Author by , Blackburn Rovers reporter

GARY Bowyer will continue in charge for Blackburn Rovers’ FA Cup tie against Bristol City – with owners Venky’s not wanting to disrupt the momentum he is building.

Goals from Colin Kazim-Richards, Ruben Rochina and Jordan Rhodes gave managerless Rovers a comfortable 3-0 win at home to Nottingham Forest, to move them just five points adrift of the play-offs with a game in hand.

Global advisor Shebby Singh had initially planned to make a decision about the new manager yesterday evening but two wins on the bounce means Bowyer will continue in the hot seat for a few more days at least.

Former Leicester City and England under–21 boss Peter Taylor became the surprise bookmakers’ favourite to take the job yesterday, with ex Preston man Billy Davies also linked, but it is understood an appointment is not now imminent.

Venky’s have been impressed by the reaction of the players to reserve team boss Gary Bowyer and under 18 manager Terry McPhillips and have decided it would be detrimental to make any rash changes.

Singh is understood to have agreed with Venky’s during a call post match that Bowyer should remain in charge on Saturday – with senior players fully behind the caretaker manager. It is also believed Bowyer and McPhillips have the opportunity to stake a claim for the job full time, although the pair remain adamant they are just helping the club out.

The delay will give Venky’s time to attempt to sort out the current divide among the Ewood Park hierarchy, with Singh barely on speaking terms with operations director Paul Agnew and managing director Derek Shaw.

The latter two flew out to India last weekend to voice their concerns about the running of the club, and Singh’s own role, and believe they need to be listened to with regards any managerial search.

Meanwhile Bowyer said after the win over Forest: “We are just carrying on and we will keep carrying on until we are told otherwise. That is as far as we know.

“I am just giving the club a little more time. Then we will see what that brings. We have been here for a long time and we care about the club, we are just helping out as much as we can.

“It has been a tough couple of days but I thought the players were magnificent again. It was a typical first half after two games and then we got a lucky goal.

“But it gave us some more energy and I can’t praise the players enough. They have been remarkable with their efforts and deserved the win.

“They are professional players and they have some pride about themselves.”

Meanwhile, Rovers are hopeful of turning Josh King’s loan move from Manchester United into a permanent deal.

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9:55am Wed 2 Jan 13

midas says...

Tee-hee - Gary Bowyer's blue and white army. You couldn't make it up, no really, you couldn't make it up!!
Tee-hee - Gary Bowyer's blue and white army. You couldn't make it up, no really, you couldn't make it up!! midas
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9:56am Wed 2 Jan 13

Harwoodstblue says...

"Owners Venky’s not wanting to disrupt the momentum he is building."

Well that's about the most sensible thing I've ever heard them say and it gives us more time to get the right man in.
"Owners Venky’s not wanting to disrupt the momentum he is building." Well that's about the most sensible thing I've ever heard them say and it gives us more time to get the right man in. Harwoodstblue
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9:57am Wed 2 Jan 13

Dukes says...

Gary Bowyer has done well but we need experience he will be a manager one day Gary Bowyer.

VENKYS GET IT SPOT ON.
Gary Bowyer has done well but we need experience he will be a manager one day Gary Bowyer. VENKYS GET IT SPOT ON. Dukes
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10:02am Wed 2 Jan 13

angryandy says...

Fully understand the decision to keep Bowyer and McPhillips as caretakers but we are now in the transfer window so who will be running the recruitment of new players, if any? 'Shebby Thing' will be rubbing his hands along with the agents he's involved with.
Blue & White Eye Balls Forever!!!!!!!!!!
Fully understand the decision to keep Bowyer and McPhillips as caretakers but we are now in the transfer window so who will be running the recruitment of new players, if any? 'Shebby Thing' will be rubbing his hands along with the agents he's involved with. Blue & White Eye Balls Forever!!!!!!!!!! angryandy
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10:02am Wed 2 Jan 13

cruzy_cruz says...

Bowyer is just what Venkys love.

Cheap and a kopout when it comes to havng to make a decision.

Bowyer should NEVER be in contention irrespective of whether he beats the bottom of the league, a forest in crisis and a poor Bristol 2nd XI
Bowyer is just what Venkys love. Cheap and a kopout when it comes to havng to make a decision. Bowyer should NEVER be in contention irrespective of whether he beats the bottom of the league, a forest in crisis and a poor Bristol 2nd XI cruzy_cruz
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10:04am Wed 2 Jan 13

ashleyk260 says...

Here we go again the cheap option and by time we get a manager in now transfer window will b shut so its going to be until the summer until we see what the new manger can do with by bringing in his players unbelievable the venkys still haven't learnt anything
Here we go again the cheap option and by time we get a manager in now transfer window will b shut so its going to be until the summer until we see what the new manger can do with by bringing in his players unbelievable the venkys still haven't learnt anything ashleyk260
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10:06am Wed 2 Jan 13

Ray Gunn says...

i knew this would happen....another delay in getting a manager in place with the window well and truly open.... I've said it before and i'll say it again Bowyer is NOT a first team manager although he's done a good job in TWO matches he taken charge of....this is just time wasting by the Chicken farmers and Scabby Minge so they don't have to by anyone...say they appoint someone after the cup match.....it'll take a week to sort out his back room staff....and a couple of weeks to see where he need to strengthen the squad..but by then the window will be closed...unless Scabby Ding starts telling us once again who we should buy.....here we go again....FFS
i knew this would happen....another delay in getting a manager in place with the window well and truly open.... I've said it before and i'll say it again Bowyer is NOT a first team manager although he's done a good job in TWO matches he taken charge of....this is just time wasting by the Chicken farmers and Scabby Minge so they don't have to by anyone...say they appoint someone after the cup match.....it'll take a week to sort out his back room staff....and a couple of weeks to see where he need to strengthen the squad..but by then the window will be closed...unless Scabby Ding starts telling us once again who we should buy.....here we go again....FFS Ray Gunn
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10:06am Wed 2 Jan 13

BeardwoodB says...

Why did Shaw AND Agnew go to India.
Who paid for that trip.
Like 2 kids at school
Why did Shaw AND Agnew go to India. Who paid for that trip. Like 2 kids at school BeardwoodB
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10:07am Wed 2 Jan 13

Tom F. says...

Steve Kean IN!
Boooooboys OUT!
Steve Kean IN! Boooooboys OUT! Tom F.
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10:08am Wed 2 Jan 13

Norman T Wangler says...

well... it is the xheapeat option.... for a week or 2 at least. but when will they learn that in football the short term cheap option becomes the ling term expensive option?
well... it is the xheapeat option.... for a week or 2 at least. but when will they learn that in football the short term cheap option becomes the ling term expensive option? Norman T Wangler
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10:09am Wed 2 Jan 13

cboyer says...

this is the correct decision for once if the team is winning why rush into changing things? i agree with the above comment though who will be signing new players?
this is the correct decision for once if the team is winning why rush into changing things? i agree with the above comment though who will be signing new players? cboyer
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10:09am Wed 2 Jan 13

jeppo says...

come on lads, all you negative posters, lets be honest, if Rovers had announced that there was a new manager, there would be a load of other negative posts saying that we should keep Bowyer instead of going for a name...they cant win on this one!!
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Got to be honest, if I was them, I'd be doing the same, lets give Bowyer a chance, its worked very well so far and with the squad we have, on paper, they shouldnt have to spend any more money!!
come on lads, all you negative posters, lets be honest, if Rovers had announced that there was a new manager, there would be a load of other negative posts saying that we should keep Bowyer instead of going for a name...they cant win on this one!! . Got to be honest, if I was them, I'd be doing the same, lets give Bowyer a chance, its worked very well so far and with the squad we have, on paper, they shouldnt have to spend any more money!! jeppo
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10:10am Wed 2 Jan 13

adcr says...

I wasn't impressed with the names being touted as our potential manager, so hopefully this will give us more time. Difficult to assess Bowyer atm, but 2 wins six goals scored and only one conceded is probably the best bit of form this season.
I wasn't impressed with the names being touted as our potential manager, so hopefully this will give us more time. Difficult to assess Bowyer atm, but 2 wins six goals scored and only one conceded is probably the best bit of form this season. adcr
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10:15am Wed 2 Jan 13

French Rover says...

it was expected I think after two wins and with nobody decent lined-up to come in. None of the names mentioned would really fit the bill for the Rovers and for most fans, though the exception would be (for me) Mark Hughes. Despite his recent 'fails' he would bring the organisation and experience the club has been lacking and the fans have been calling for for two years now. Perhaps (hopefully) that is the reason they are taking their time - so as to try and persuade him to accept?
it was expected I think after two wins and with nobody decent lined-up to come in. None of the names mentioned would really fit the bill for the Rovers and for most fans, though the exception would be (for me) Mark Hughes. Despite his recent 'fails' he would bring the organisation and experience the club has been lacking and the fans have been calling for for two years now. Perhaps (hopefully) that is the reason they are taking their time - so as to try and persuade him to accept? French Rover
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10:15am Wed 2 Jan 13

MikeD says...

cruzy_cruz wrote:
Bowyer is just what Venkys love.

Cheap and a kopout when it comes to havng to make a decision.

Bowyer should NEVER be in contention irrespective of whether he beats the bottom of the league, a forest in crisis and a poor Bristol 2nd XI
Surely what we want is a manager who can win matches convincingly, and that is what Bowyer has achieved in the last 2 games. Experience isn't all it's cracked up to be. McLeish is the perfect example of that. And everybody's favourite, Harry Redknapp, hasn't exactly got QPR playing like champions yet. Mark Hughes put QPR there in the first place, and didn't exactly set the world alight in his previous 2 jobs either. I don't agree with this teenage infatuation with big name managers. If the team keeps on winning and playing well under Bowyer and the players respect him, then he should DEFINITELY be in contention.
[quote][p][bold]cruzy_cruz[/bold] wrote: Bowyer is just what Venkys love. Cheap and a kopout when it comes to havng to make a decision. Bowyer should NEVER be in contention irrespective of whether he beats the bottom of the league, a forest in crisis and a poor Bristol 2nd XI[/p][/quote]Surely what we want is a manager who can win matches convincingly, and that is what Bowyer has achieved in the last 2 games. Experience isn't all it's cracked up to be. McLeish is the perfect example of that. And everybody's favourite, Harry Redknapp, hasn't exactly got QPR playing like champions yet. Mark Hughes put QPR there in the first place, and didn't exactly set the world alight in his previous 2 jobs either. I don't agree with this teenage infatuation with big name managers. If the team keeps on winning and playing well under Bowyer and the players respect him, then he should DEFINITELY be in contention. MikeD
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10:15am Wed 2 Jan 13

ashleyk260 says...

jeppo wrote:
come on lads, all you negative posters, lets be honest, if Rovers had announced that there was a new manager, there would be a load of other negative posts saying that we should keep Bowyer instead of going for a name...they cant win on this one!!
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Got to be honest, if I was them, I'd be doing the same, lets give Bowyer a chance, its worked very well so far and with the squad we have, on paper, they shouldnt have to spend any more money!!
Is this the venkys don't need to spend money have u seen our midfield and the defence 2 wins doesn't make all that go away stop taking chances that you'll find the next ferguson in a young manager and hire someone who can already do the job
[quote][p][bold]jeppo[/bold] wrote: come on lads, all you negative posters, lets be honest, if Rovers had announced that there was a new manager, there would be a load of other negative posts saying that we should keep Bowyer instead of going for a name...they cant win on this one!! . Got to be honest, if I was them, I'd be doing the same, lets give Bowyer a chance, its worked very well so far and with the squad we have, on paper, they shouldnt have to spend any more money!![/p][/quote]Is this the venkys don't need to spend money have u seen our midfield and the defence 2 wins doesn't make all that go away stop taking chances that you'll find the next ferguson in a young manager and hire someone who can already do the job ashleyk260
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10:20am Wed 2 Jan 13

Marconi says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
"Owners Venky’s not wanting to disrupt the momentum he is building."

Well that's about the most sensible thing I've ever heard them say and it gives us more time to get the right man in.
I guess it is a good an excuse as you will get for delaying the appointing of another manager. At least Shebby is off the hook for the time being. What makes you think we will get a say in picking the right man
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: "Owners Venky’s not wanting to disrupt the momentum he is building." Well that's about the most sensible thing I've ever heard them say and it gives us more time to get the right man in.[/p][/quote]I guess it is a good an excuse as you will get for delaying the appointing of another manager. At least Shebby is off the hook for the time being. What makes you think we will get a say in picking the right man Marconi
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10:20am Wed 2 Jan 13

greenscreener says...

jeppo wrote:
come on lads, all you negative posters, lets be honest, if Rovers had announced that there was a new manager, there would be a load of other negative posts saying that we should keep Bowyer instead of going for a name...they cant win on this one!!
.
Got to be honest, if I was them, I'd be doing the same, lets give Bowyer a chance, its worked very well so far and with the squad we have, on paper, they shouldnt have to spend any more money!!
They shouln't have to spend any more money, but unfortunately they do. We are absolutely desperate for a new Centre Half. Young Hanley cannot carry Scott Dann and his woeful distribution, for the rest of the season.

I fear that this window will now be used to try to bring money in rather than improve the team.
[quote][p][bold]jeppo[/bold] wrote: come on lads, all you negative posters, lets be honest, if Rovers had announced that there was a new manager, there would be a load of other negative posts saying that we should keep Bowyer instead of going for a name...they cant win on this one!! . Got to be honest, if I was them, I'd be doing the same, lets give Bowyer a chance, its worked very well so far and with the squad we have, on paper, they shouldnt have to spend any more money!![/p][/quote]They shouln't have to spend any more money, but unfortunately they do. We are absolutely desperate for a new Centre Half. Young Hanley cannot carry Scott Dann and his woeful distribution, for the rest of the season. I fear that this window will now be used to try to bring money in rather than improve the team. greenscreener
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10:21am Wed 2 Jan 13

cboyer says...

i honestly dont understand why everybody wanting hughes? he left a decent team in rovers and has done nothing since even after spending loads
i honestly dont understand why everybody wanting hughes? he left a decent team in rovers and has done nothing since even after spending loads cboyer
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10:22am Wed 2 Jan 13

Dan11 says...

If it was there plan to appoint Peter Taylor as permanent manager on another 2/3 year deal, then I am glad that Gary Bowyer's good management and motivation has avoided us making that mistake.
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I however disagree with keeping him as caretaker for the Bristol City game alone. We need an appointment now. There is a transfer window open, and quiet frankly, some inept players that need to be let go and new players brought in. We need a manager to do that, given the managers title. Not a caretaker muddling on and a "global bull-shi-tter" in the background making an idiot of themselves whilst signing more rubbish.
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If you want to back Gary Bowyer, give him the job to the end of the season as a trial. If you do not want to, give someone else the job. But do not give it Peter Taylor, who was run out of Crystal Palace in 2007 after doing a terrible job.
If it was there plan to appoint Peter Taylor as permanent manager on another 2/3 year deal, then I am glad that Gary Bowyer's good management and motivation has avoided us making that mistake. - I however disagree with keeping him as caretaker for the Bristol City game alone. We need an appointment now. There is a transfer window open, and quiet frankly, some inept players that need to be let go and new players brought in. We need a manager to do that, given the managers title. Not a caretaker muddling on and a "global bull-shi-tter" in the background making an idiot of themselves whilst signing more rubbish. - If you want to back Gary Bowyer, give him the job to the end of the season as a trial. If you do not want to, give someone else the job. But do not give it Peter Taylor, who was run out of Crystal Palace in 2007 after doing a terrible job. Dan11
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10:26am Wed 2 Jan 13

Howe2win says...

Unbelievable you Rovers Fans! You win 2 games after just 1 in 10 and you still moan. Maybe the problem with Rovers is not the owners, nor Kean or Berg, nor Shebby or Shaw. Maybe, just maybe, it's the fans!
Unbelievable you Rovers Fans! You win 2 games after just 1 in 10 and you still moan. Maybe the problem with Rovers is not the owners, nor Kean or Berg, nor Shebby or Shaw. Maybe, just maybe, it's the fans! Howe2win
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10:28am Wed 2 Jan 13

Roverthere says...

Next step to remove the two goons Shaw and Agnew, a pair of complete incompetent losers!
Next step to remove the two goons Shaw and Agnew, a pair of complete incompetent losers! Roverthere
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10:28am Wed 2 Jan 13

owd nick says...

Hard to see what the best option is, Bowyer has done more in two games than the last two managers achieved in the best part of two years.

He has the players playing for him, they are better organised than we have seen for a long time and some confidence is creeping back in, which was desperately required plus the added bonus of a little luck going our way for once doesn't go amiss.

And the majority of the fans who bothered to turn up instead of ranting on here and on forums went home happy.

He isn't experienced in managing a club but he is experienced in managing players and staff, and he knows the club and the players inside out

I think the majority of Rovers fans want Hughes back (me included), but his advisers have made it very clear he isn't interested, so anyone who thinks that is going to happen any day soon is in the same part of LaLa land that Venky's inhabit.

Nowhere near the part the Shebby inhabits I might add, he is off the scale.

So any managerial appointment no matter who it is, is going to be second, third, fourth etc; choice to most Rovers fans. and with all the infighting going on behind the scenes that is extremely dangerous if they get the wrong man in from the fans point of view.

But we need stability, from what I have seen so far I think Bowyer could give us a level of that.

So I think the best option is to let Bowyer get on with it for now while the expensive, lazy, whingers and whiners, who I suspect did for Berg, are cleared out over the next couple of weeks (hopefully), then if we get someone in he can hit the ground running, whoever he is.
Hard to see what the best option is, Bowyer has done more in two games than the last two managers achieved in the best part of two years. He has the players playing for him, they are better organised than we have seen for a long time and some confidence is creeping back in, which was desperately required plus the added bonus of a little luck going our way for once doesn't go amiss. And the majority of the fans who bothered to turn up instead of ranting on here and on forums went home happy. He isn't experienced in managing a club but he is experienced in managing players and staff, and he knows the club and the players inside out I think the majority of Rovers fans want Hughes back (me included), but his advisers have made it very clear he isn't interested, so anyone who thinks that is going to happen any day soon is in the same part of LaLa land that Venky's inhabit. Nowhere near the part the Shebby inhabits I might add, he is off the scale. So any managerial appointment no matter who it is, is going to be second, third, fourth etc; choice to most Rovers fans. and with all the infighting going on behind the scenes that is extremely dangerous if they get the wrong man in from the fans point of view. But we need stability, from what I have seen so far I think Bowyer could give us a level of that. So I think the best option is to let Bowyer get on with it for now while the expensive, lazy, whingers and whiners, who I suspect did for Berg, are cleared out over the next couple of weeks (hopefully), then if we get someone in he can hit the ground running, whoever he is. owd nick
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10:29am Wed 2 Jan 13

ashleyk260 says...

Howe2win wrote:
Unbelievable you Rovers Fans! You win 2 games after just 1 in 10 and you still moan. Maybe the problem with Rovers is not the owners, nor Kean or Berg, nor Shebby or Shaw. Maybe, just maybe, it's the fans!
We're moaning because we've seen all this before and seen it go all wrong
[quote][p][bold]Howe2win[/bold] wrote: Unbelievable you Rovers Fans! You win 2 games after just 1 in 10 and you still moan. Maybe the problem with Rovers is not the owners, nor Kean or Berg, nor Shebby or Shaw. Maybe, just maybe, it's the fans![/p][/quote]We're moaning because we've seen all this before and seen it go all wrong ashleyk260
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10:30am Wed 2 Jan 13

cookyy2k says...

Stop complaining about everything that ever happens with the club, not everything is bad. They haven't given Bowyer a contract or anything just longer to prove what he can do, the momentum is with us for a change, the players seem to respond well to him. I can't believe there are people on here complaining about wins because one was bottom and one was in shambles because last I saw we were in shambles too. People round here have become too used to whining about everything that happens re BRFC. I'd prefer to see bowyer does than get some rush shebby selected has been. Bowyer knows what it is to be rovers, he's working and has the players working for us, do we really want a has been here only for the payday to take over?
Stop complaining about everything that ever happens with the club, not everything is bad. They haven't given Bowyer a contract or anything just longer to prove what he can do, the momentum is with us for a change, the players seem to respond well to him. I can't believe there are people on here complaining about wins because one was bottom and one was in shambles because last I saw we were in shambles too. People round here have become too used to whining about everything that happens re BRFC. I'd prefer to see bowyer does than get some rush shebby selected has been. Bowyer knows what it is to be rovers, he's working and has the players working for us, do we really want a has been here only for the payday to take over? cookyy2k
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10:30am Wed 2 Jan 13

cookyy2k says...

Stop complaining about everything that ever happens with the club, not everything is bad. They haven't given Bowyer a contract or anything just longer to prove what he can do, the momentum is with us for a change, the players seem to respond well to him. I can't believe there are people on here complaining about wins because one was bottom and one was in shambles because last I saw we were in shambles too. People round here have become too used to whining about everything that happens re BRFC. I'd prefer to see bowyer does than get some rush shebby selected has been. Bowyer knows what it is to be rovers, he's working and has the players working for us, do we really want a has been here only for the payday to take over?
Stop complaining about everything that ever happens with the club, not everything is bad. They haven't given Bowyer a contract or anything just longer to prove what he can do, the momentum is with us for a change, the players seem to respond well to him. I can't believe there are people on here complaining about wins because one was bottom and one was in shambles because last I saw we were in shambles too. People round here have become too used to whining about everything that happens re BRFC. I'd prefer to see bowyer does than get some rush shebby selected has been. Bowyer knows what it is to be rovers, he's working and has the players working for us, do we really want a has been here only for the payday to take over? cookyy2k
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10:31am Wed 2 Jan 13

Harwoodstblue says...

Marconi wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
"Owners Venky’s not wanting to disrupt the momentum he is building."

Well that's about the most sensible thing I've ever heard them say and it gives us more time to get the right man in.
I guess it is a good an excuse as you will get for delaying the appointing of another manager. At least Shebby is off the hook for the time being. What makes you think we will get a say in picking the right man
I didn't say WE will get a say in picking the new manager. Which club does that happen at ?....I said it will give them more time to make sure they get the right man. (If that's possible for them )

Forget promotion this year..... Consolodate, get the right manager in and go for it next season, It's simple but I wonder if Venkys can see it.
[quote][p][bold]Marconi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: "Owners Venky’s not wanting to disrupt the momentum he is building." Well that's about the most sensible thing I've ever heard them say and it gives us more time to get the right man in.[/p][/quote]I guess it is a good an excuse as you will get for delaying the appointing of another manager. At least Shebby is off the hook for the time being. What makes you think we will get a say in picking the right man[/p][/quote]I didn't say WE will get a say in picking the new manager. Which club does that happen at ?....I said it will give them more time to make sure they get the right man. (If that's possible for them ) Forget promotion this year..... Consolodate, get the right manager in and go for it next season, It's simple but I wonder if Venkys can see it. Harwoodstblue
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10:32am Wed 2 Jan 13

Rover Pete says...

Another excuse by Venky's to sell a few players in this window and buy none. Do not be fooled, the last two wins have been great but the team in general is still not up to the job. If Bowyer stays the poor man will get no more money, no contract and be blamed and sacked if it all goes wrong.
I think he is as good as any of the names mentioned but he will be exploited by Venky's. Venky's and stooge Singh are still a big, big, problem..
Another excuse by Venky's to sell a few players in this window and buy none. Do not be fooled, the last two wins have been great but the team in general is still not up to the job. If Bowyer stays the poor man will get no more money, no contract and be blamed and sacked if it all goes wrong. I think he is as good as any of the names mentioned but he will be exploited by Venky's. Venky's and stooge Singh are still a big, big, problem.. Rover Pete
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10:33am Wed 2 Jan 13

1952 rover says...

And the ring master Shebby is still talking his rubbish as per the norm. Get this CLOWN out of our club NOW.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!
And the ring master Shebby is still talking his rubbish as per the norm. Get this CLOWN out of our club NOW.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! 1952 rover
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10:35am Wed 2 Jan 13

J.C - Rishton says...

Firstly well done GB for getting 2 mins and earning yourself a chance.

And also well done SS - you've now got what you wanted - a chance to meddle in team affairs and buy/sell any player in this window that YOU want.

GB has already admitted that for the Barnsley game he was given a list of players that he could NOT choose from (and I also think that happened yesterday as well) - for Barnsley they included MGP, DD, PR and GG.

Whilst I don't think it'll hurt us for GB to take the team for the FA cup this Saturday - an appointment HAS to be made SOONER rather than later.

It seems that many on here don't learn from our previous mistakes - just like Venkys
Firstly well done GB for getting 2 mins and earning yourself a chance. And also well done SS - you've now got what you wanted - a chance to meddle in team affairs and buy/sell any player in this window that YOU want. GB has already admitted that for the Barnsley game he was given a list of players that he could NOT choose from (and I also think that happened yesterday as well) - for Barnsley they included MGP, DD, PR and GG. Whilst I don't think it'll hurt us for GB to take the team for the FA cup this Saturday - an appointment HAS to be made SOONER rather than later. It seems that many on here don't learn from our previous mistakes - just like Venkys J.C - Rishton
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10:35am Wed 2 Jan 13

Captain Dreckley says...

Well this announcement was to ne expected and hats off to Bowyer, 6 points from 6 and a very clean sheet. But what about the club jester Singh? Why can he not keep his mouth firmly shut? First he will announce s manager on New years day, then he won't. Then he will and fails to deliver. The unsettling effect on the team is totally irrelevant to him, all he wants to do is massage his own ego and gain attention. The 606 interview really put him on the national stage, the fact he made venkys and the club look a laughing stock was irrelevant, it was all about Shebby. Well if Shaw and Agnew want him out, he is their biggest asset with his constant tomfoolery. The 606 interview showed Singh at his very best, a media pundit coming out with absolute drivel that gets people to tune in for a laugh. I'd be over the moon if he quit Rovers and joined 606 permanently, I'd listen every show.for a laugh at the rubbish he spouts. Old English saying, Shebby, give them enough rope and they will hang themselves, and the amount of rope you are accruing will soon be enough for the 13 knots of the Hangmans noose.
Well this announcement was to ne expected and hats off to Bowyer, 6 points from 6 and a very clean sheet. But what about the club jester Singh? Why can he not keep his mouth firmly shut? First he will announce s manager on New years day, then he won't. Then he will and fails to deliver. The unsettling effect on the team is totally irrelevant to him, all he wants to do is massage his own ego and gain attention. The 606 interview really put him on the national stage, the fact he made venkys and the club look a laughing stock was irrelevant, it was all about Shebby. Well if Shaw and Agnew want him out, he is their biggest asset with his constant tomfoolery. The 606 interview showed Singh at his very best, a media pundit coming out with absolute drivel that gets people to tune in for a laugh. I'd be over the moon if he quit Rovers and joined 606 permanently, I'd listen every show.for a laugh at the rubbish he spouts. Old English saying, Shebby, give them enough rope and they will hang themselves, and the amount of rope you are accruing will soon be enough for the 13 knots of the Hangmans noose. Captain Dreckley
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10:36am Wed 2 Jan 13

1riversider says...

So there we have it - total confusion as ever coming out of Ewood Park. Shabby says one thing one day, the club say another, then Shabby says.......... Quite frankly, it is pathetic!

Does anyone at the club know that the transfer window is open? Either appoint a new manager now, or give the job to Bowyer until at least the end of the season, and sort this bloody mess out.

This delay and confusion is tearing the club apart - and as for the alleged infighting between Shabby on one side, and Shaw and Agnew on the other, there is a very simple solution SACK THE LOT OF THEM - not one of the Three Stooges has any right to be near OUR club.

SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB NOW
So there we have it - total confusion as ever coming out of Ewood Park. Shabby says one thing one day, the club say another, then Shabby says.......... Quite frankly, it is pathetic! Does anyone at the club know that the transfer window is open? Either appoint a new manager now, or give the job to Bowyer until at least the end of the season, and sort this bloody mess out. This delay and confusion is tearing the club apart - and as for the alleged infighting between Shabby on one side, and Shaw and Agnew on the other, there is a very simple solution SACK THE LOT OF THEM - not one of the Three Stooges has any right to be near OUR club. SHYSTERS GET OUT OF OUR CLUB NOW 1riversider
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10:37am Wed 2 Jan 13

globetrot says...

This was always on the cards. But the morons that be need to use the breathing space created by Mr Bowyer to find a suitable replacement.
The Venkys sacked everyone except Boater, which leads me to think they knew what they were doing. Shambles Singh needs to go.
Good luck Bowyer 2 good wins and a few more please, well done. Please don't let Singh do anymore purchasing of players.
This was always on the cards. But the morons that be need to use the breathing space created by Mr Bowyer to find a suitable replacement. The Venkys sacked everyone except Boater, which leads me to think they knew what they were doing. Shambles Singh needs to go. Good luck Bowyer 2 good wins and a few more please, well done. Please don't let Singh do anymore purchasing of players. globetrot
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10:38am Wed 2 Jan 13

brown cow warrior says...

French Rover wrote:
it was expected I think after two wins and with nobody decent lined-up to come in. None of the names mentioned would really fit the bill for the Rovers and for most fans, though the exception would be (for me) Mark Hughes. Despite his recent 'fails' he would bring the organisation and experience the club has been lacking and the fans have been calling for for two years now. Perhaps (hopefully) that is the reason they are taking their time - so as to try and persuade him to accept?
Pretty sure QPR would have swapped two wins for the 'organisation and experience' that Hughes supposedly brings.
Anyway, back in the real world the silence from SS is quite nice. Does it mean his ideas have been slapped down by his employers?
[quote][p][bold]French Rover[/bold] wrote: it was expected I think after two wins and with nobody decent lined-up to come in. None of the names mentioned would really fit the bill for the Rovers and for most fans, though the exception would be (for me) Mark Hughes. Despite his recent 'fails' he would bring the organisation and experience the club has been lacking and the fans have been calling for for two years now. Perhaps (hopefully) that is the reason they are taking their time - so as to try and persuade him to accept?[/p][/quote]Pretty sure QPR would have swapped two wins for the 'organisation and experience' that Hughes supposedly brings. Anyway, back in the real world the silence from SS is quite nice. Does it mean his ideas have been slapped down by his employers? brown cow warrior
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10:39am Wed 2 Jan 13

daver72BRFC says...

Howe2win wrote:
Unbelievable you Rovers Fans! You win 2 games after just 1 in 10 and you still moan. Maybe the problem with Rovers is not the owners, nor Kean or Berg, nor Shebby or Shaw. Maybe, just maybe, it's the fans!
Obsessed, totally and utterly obsessed with Rovers!!

Although I can't blame you, I am too!

You silly dingle/wannabe rovers fan!
[quote][p][bold]Howe2win[/bold] wrote: Unbelievable you Rovers Fans! You win 2 games after just 1 in 10 and you still moan. Maybe the problem with Rovers is not the owners, nor Kean or Berg, nor Shebby or Shaw. Maybe, just maybe, it's the fans![/p][/quote]Obsessed, totally and utterly obsessed with Rovers!! Although I can't blame you, I am too! You silly dingle/wannabe rovers fan! daver72BRFC
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10:42am Wed 2 Jan 13

daver72BRFC says...

Howe2win wrote:
Unbelievable you Rovers Fans! You win 2 games after just 1 in 10 and you still moan. Maybe the problem with Rovers is not the owners, nor Kean or Berg, nor Shebby or Shaw. Maybe, just maybe, it's the fans!
Obsessed, totally and utterly obsessed with Rovers!!

Although I can't blame you, I am too! We are, as you know, a far better option than that pile of claret and blue rubbish down the turd moor road!

You silly dingle/wannabe rovers fan!
[quote][p][bold]Howe2win[/bold] wrote: Unbelievable you Rovers Fans! You win 2 games after just 1 in 10 and you still moan. Maybe the problem with Rovers is not the owners, nor Kean or Berg, nor Shebby or Shaw. Maybe, just maybe, it's the fans![/p][/quote]Obsessed, totally and utterly obsessed with Rovers!! Although I can't blame you, I am too! We are, as you know, a far better option than that pile of claret and blue rubbish down the turd moor road! You silly dingle/wannabe rovers fan! daver72BRFC
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10:42am Wed 2 Jan 13

1952 rover says...

midas wrote:
Tee-hee - Gary Bowyer's blue and white army. You couldn't make it up, no really, you couldn't make it up!!
Get back in your play pen Now!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]midas[/bold] wrote: Tee-hee - Gary Bowyer's blue and white army. You couldn't make it up, no really, you couldn't make it up!![/p][/quote]Get back in your play pen Now!!!!! 1952 rover
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10:42am Wed 2 Jan 13

1952 rover says...

midas wrote:
Tee-hee - Gary Bowyer's blue and white army. You couldn't make it up, no really, you couldn't make it up!!
Get back in your play pen Now!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]midas[/bold] wrote: Tee-hee - Gary Bowyer's blue and white army. You couldn't make it up, no really, you couldn't make it up!![/p][/quote]Get back in your play pen Now!!!!! 1952 rover
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10:43am Wed 2 Jan 13

dangerous dave says...

Just what was expected a Manger on the cheap again - having said that the likes of Taylor and Davies are not exactly inspiring - so no decent Manager lined up on the arizon and just hot air from the idiot Shabby Shabby and so much for the other 2 morons Shaw and Agnew - clear the air talks - well why dont they tell the fans what the trip to India was really about - they are all a set of absolute idiots with no positive vibes what so ever for the fans to latch onto!!!!!
OUT WITH SINGH SHAW AGNEW HENDRY VENKYS ALL A BLOODY JOKE
Just what was expected a Manger on the cheap again - having said that the likes of Taylor and Davies are not exactly inspiring - so no decent Manager lined up on the arizon and just hot air from the idiot Shabby Shabby and so much for the other 2 morons Shaw and Agnew - clear the air talks - well why dont they tell the fans what the trip to India was really about - they are all a set of absolute idiots with no positive vibes what so ever for the fans to latch onto!!!!! OUT WITH SINGH SHAW AGNEW HENDRY VENKYS ALL A BLOODY JOKE dangerous dave
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10:45am Wed 2 Jan 13

1952 rover says...

Howe2win wrote:
Unbelievable you Rovers Fans! You win 2 games after just 1 in 10 and you still moan. Maybe the problem with Rovers is not the owners, nor Kean or Berg, nor Shebby or Shaw. Maybe, just maybe, it's the fans!
dingle i presume. sod off.
[quote][p][bold]Howe2win[/bold] wrote: Unbelievable you Rovers Fans! You win 2 games after just 1 in 10 and you still moan. Maybe the problem with Rovers is not the owners, nor Kean or Berg, nor Shebby or Shaw. Maybe, just maybe, it's the fans![/p][/quote]dingle i presume. sod off. 1952 rover
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10:47am Wed 2 Jan 13

1952 rover says...

Peter Taylor. No way. Where has that name come from. A failure every where he has been at.
Peter Taylor. No way. Where has that name come from. A failure every where he has been at. 1952 rover
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10:51am Wed 2 Jan 13

chickenfarm says...

Howe2win wrote:
Unbelievable you Rovers Fans! You win 2 games after just 1 in 10 and you still moan. Maybe the problem with Rovers is not the owners, nor Kean or Berg, nor Shebby or Shaw. Maybe, just maybe, it's the fans!
Too true it is the fans. When the fans think their have a right to be in the Premiership you deserve nothing.
Small club with very narrow minded fans
[quote][p][bold]Howe2win[/bold] wrote: Unbelievable you Rovers Fans! You win 2 games after just 1 in 10 and you still moan. Maybe the problem with Rovers is not the owners, nor Kean or Berg, nor Shebby or Shaw. Maybe, just maybe, it's the fans![/p][/quote]Too true it is the fans. When the fans think their have a right to be in the Premiership you deserve nothing. Small club with very narrow minded fans chickenfarm
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10:52am Wed 2 Jan 13

moh says...

globetrot wrote:
This was always on the cards. But the morons that be need to use the breathing space created by Mr Bowyer to find a suitable replacement. The Venkys sacked everyone except Boater, which leads me to think they knew what they were doing. Shambles Singh needs to go. Good luck Bowyer 2 good wins and a few more please, well done. Please don't let Singh do anymore purchasing of players.
Has Singh been meddling with team sheet in the last two games. If he has he needs to go.
[quote][p][bold]globetrot[/bold] wrote: This was always on the cards. But the morons that be need to use the breathing space created by Mr Bowyer to find a suitable replacement. The Venkys sacked everyone except Boater, which leads me to think they knew what they were doing. Shambles Singh needs to go. Good luck Bowyer 2 good wins and a few more please, well done. Please don't let Singh do anymore purchasing of players.[/p][/quote]Has Singh been meddling with team sheet in the last two games. If he has he needs to go. moh
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10:52am Wed 2 Jan 13

8 Ball Deluxe says...

Howe2win wrote:
Unbelievable you Rovers Fans! You win 2 games after just 1 in 10 and you still moan. Maybe the problem with Rovers is not the owners, nor Kean or Berg, nor Shebby or Shaw. Maybe, just maybe, it's the fans!
Spot on.
[quote][p][bold]Howe2win[/bold] wrote: Unbelievable you Rovers Fans! You win 2 games after just 1 in 10 and you still moan. Maybe the problem with Rovers is not the owners, nor Kean or Berg, nor Shebby or Shaw. Maybe, just maybe, it's the fans![/p][/quote]Spot on. 8 Ball Deluxe
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10:54am Wed 2 Jan 13

MxMave says...

Rovers fans are starting to annoy me.
Sat at the match yesterday, CKR gets man of the match after having a DREADFUL game which include 1 shot on target that went in the net. CKR must have lost 97% of the balls played into him. EVERY single move in the first half broke down with him, and yet he gets man of the match because he scored a goal?
Then on my way home from Ewood, Mohammed from Blackburn rings up radio Lancs and says "Bowyer should be given the job" after scraping 2 results together. HAVE WE LEARNT NOTHING!?
Rovers fans are starting to annoy me. Sat at the match yesterday, CKR gets man of the match after having a DREADFUL game which include 1 shot on target that went in the net. CKR must have lost 97% of the balls played into him. EVERY single move in the first half broke down with him, and yet he gets man of the match because he scored a goal? Then on my way home from Ewood, Mohammed from Blackburn rings up radio Lancs and says "Bowyer should be given the job" after scraping 2 results together. HAVE WE LEARNT NOTHING!? MxMave
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10:54am Wed 2 Jan 13

maltaman says...

Again more confusion and although Gary Bowyer has done a good job we need an experienced manager. Probably again no one wants to work for these buffoons. !! So if the fans are expecting a big name for a manager its not going to happen.Singh, Shaw , Agnew and Venkys can't agree amongst themseves so that says it all really. They wil go for the cheap option sell players in this transfer window and if they gt a manager it will be after the window closes. !! Can see through this lot as plain as looking through glass.!!
Again more confusion and although Gary Bowyer has done a good job we need an experienced manager. Probably again no one wants to work for these buffoons. !! So if the fans are expecting a big name for a manager its not going to happen.Singh, Shaw , Agnew and Venkys can't agree amongst themseves so that says it all really. They wil go for the cheap option sell players in this transfer window and if they gt a manager it will be after the window closes. !! Can see through this lot as plain as looking through glass.!! maltaman
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10:55am Wed 2 Jan 13

MxMave says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
"Owners Venky’s not wanting to disrupt the momentum he is building."

Well that's about the most sensible thing I've ever heard them say and it gives us more time to get the right man in.
Yes because thats what we need, more time to waste away whilst other teams strengthen in the window and we sit there going "Gary is doing a fine job, lets keep him on another game until we loose" whilst Shebby signs whatever asian nationals he wants.
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: "Owners Venky’s not wanting to disrupt the momentum he is building." Well that's about the most sensible thing I've ever heard them say and it gives us more time to get the right man in.[/p][/quote]Yes because thats what we need, more time to waste away whilst other teams strengthen in the window and we sit there going "Gary is doing a fine job, lets keep him on another game until we loose" whilst Shebby signs whatever asian nationals he wants. MxMave
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10:58am Wed 2 Jan 13

Harwoodstblue says...

8 Ball Deluxe wrote:
Howe2win wrote:
Unbelievable you Rovers Fans! You win 2 games after just 1 in 10 and you still moan. Maybe the problem with Rovers is not the owners, nor Kean or Berg, nor Shebby or Shaw. Maybe, just maybe, it's the fans!
Spot on.
Come on 8 ball what have you been drinking ?

So it isn't Venkys fault, it wasn't Keans fault and it isn't Singhs fault.
It's all the fans fault is it ?
[quote][p][bold]8 Ball Deluxe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Howe2win[/bold] wrote: Unbelievable you Rovers Fans! You win 2 games after just 1 in 10 and you still moan. Maybe the problem with Rovers is not the owners, nor Kean or Berg, nor Shebby or Shaw. Maybe, just maybe, it's the fans![/p][/quote]Spot on.[/p][/quote]Come on 8 ball what have you been drinking ? So it isn't Venkys fault, it wasn't Keans fault and it isn't Singhs fault. It's all the fans fault is it ? Harwoodstblue
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11:05am Wed 2 Jan 13

8 Ball Deluxe says...

Good to see common sense prevailing. Bowyer has been successful at every level he has been at. Thats why he's been at the ckub eight years whilst all around him have been changed with alarming regularity.
All you BRAG BRIST BREAST FED and BRINGING IN THE SHEEP action supporters groups need to stop moaning and get behind the team for a change, you are starting to make yourselves look stupid.
Bowyer has the respect of the dressing room so why upset that for someone like Taylor. Christ has he ever been succesful at all?
Thus far this is one of Venkys better decisions, there is no rush and I'm sure Bowyer can identify a player as well as well as any shortcomings in the squad balance.
I never thought I'd say this but well done Venkys, you have overidden Soggy minge and Agnew and Shaw, showing all that the buck stops with you.
Now all you have to do is sort out the madness between the three who have just been mentioned. Somethings gotta give and if they usually take option cheap it looks like bye bye shaggy.
Good to see common sense prevailing. Bowyer has been successful at every level he has been at. Thats why he's been at the ckub eight years whilst all around him have been changed with alarming regularity. All you BRAG BRIST BREAST FED and BRINGING IN THE SHEEP action supporters groups need to stop moaning and get behind the team for a change, you are starting to make yourselves look stupid. Bowyer has the respect of the dressing room so why upset that for someone like Taylor. Christ has he ever been succesful at all? Thus far this is one of Venkys better decisions, there is no rush and I'm sure Bowyer can identify a player as well as well as any shortcomings in the squad balance. I never thought I'd say this but well done Venkys, you have overidden Soggy minge and Agnew and Shaw, showing all that the buck stops with you. Now all you have to do is sort out the madness between the three who have just been mentioned. Somethings gotta give and if they usually take option cheap it looks like bye bye shaggy. 8 Ball Deluxe
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11:08am Wed 2 Jan 13

Harwoodstblue says...

MxMave wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
"Owners Venky’s not wanting to disrupt the momentum he is building."

Well that's about the most sensible thing I've ever heard them say and it gives us more time to get the right man in.
Yes because thats what we need, more time to waste away whilst other teams strengthen in the window and we sit there going "Gary is doing a fine job, lets keep him on another game until we loose" whilst Shebby signs whatever asian nationals he wants.
Or we could always rush into another silly decision.....Again.
[quote][p][bold]MxMave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: "Owners Venky’s not wanting to disrupt the momentum he is building." Well that's about the most sensible thing I've ever heard them say and it gives us more time to get the right man in.[/p][/quote]Yes because thats what we need, more time to waste away whilst other teams strengthen in the window and we sit there going "Gary is doing a fine job, lets keep him on another game until we loose" whilst Shebby signs whatever asian nationals he wants.[/p][/quote]Or we could always rush into another silly decision.....Again. Harwoodstblue
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11:08am Wed 2 Jan 13

juanbbien says...

cboyer wrote:
i honestly dont understand why everybody wanting hughes? he left a decent team in rovers and has done nothing since even after spending loads
Like I keep saying lets forget Hughes,alright he did a good job while he was here,but couldnt wait for a better club/offer to come in let's move on and not go crawling back for him,lets have some self respect,he's done nothing since he left us.leave him be.sometimes it's good to realise what you have got at a certain club doesn't always transpire to another club,as many managers have to their detriment.
[quote][p][bold]cboyer[/bold] wrote: i honestly dont understand why everybody wanting hughes? he left a decent team in rovers and has done nothing since even after spending loads[/p][/quote]Like I keep saying lets forget Hughes,alright he did a good job while he was here,but couldnt wait for a better club/offer to come in let's move on and not go crawling back for him,lets have some self respect,he's done nothing since he left us.leave him be.sometimes it's good to realise what you have got at a certain club doesn't always transpire to another club,as many managers have to their detriment. juanbbien
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11:08am Wed 2 Jan 13

Is Eckersley playing? says...

MikeD wrote:
cruzy_cruz wrote:
Bowyer is just what Venkys love.

Cheap and a kopout when it comes to havng to make a decision.

Bowyer should NEVER be in contention irrespective of whether he beats the bottom of the league, a forest in crisis and a poor Bristol 2nd XI
Surely what we want is a manager who can win matches convincingly, and that is what Bowyer has achieved in the last 2 games. Experience isn't all it's cracked up to be. McLeish is the perfect example of that. And everybody's favourite, Harry Redknapp, hasn't exactly got QPR playing like champions yet. Mark Hughes put QPR there in the first place, and didn't exactly set the world alight in his previous 2 jobs either. I don't agree with this teenage infatuation with big name managers. If the team keeps on winning and playing well under Bowyer and the players respect him, then he should DEFINITELY be in contention.
Well sad. I like your train of thought.
[quote][p][bold]MikeD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cruzy_cruz[/bold] wrote: Bowyer is just what Venkys love. Cheap and a kopout when it comes to havng to make a decision. Bowyer should NEVER be in contention irrespective of whether he beats the bottom of the league, a forest in crisis and a poor Bristol 2nd XI[/p][/quote]Surely what we want is a manager who can win matches convincingly, and that is what Bowyer has achieved in the last 2 games. Experience isn't all it's cracked up to be. McLeish is the perfect example of that. And everybody's favourite, Harry Redknapp, hasn't exactly got QPR playing like champions yet. Mark Hughes put QPR there in the first place, and didn't exactly set the world alight in his previous 2 jobs either. I don't agree with this teenage infatuation with big name managers. If the team keeps on winning and playing well under Bowyer and the players respect him, then he should DEFINITELY be in contention.[/p][/quote]Well sad. I like your train of thought. Is Eckersley playing?
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11:09am Wed 2 Jan 13

8 Ball Deluxe says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
8 Ball Deluxe wrote:
Howe2win wrote:
Unbelievable you Rovers Fans! You win 2 games after just 1 in 10 and you still moan. Maybe the problem with Rovers is not the owners, nor Kean or Berg, nor Shebby or Shaw. Maybe, just maybe, it's the fans!
Spot on.
Come on 8 ball what have you been drinking ?

So it isn't Venkys fault, it wasn't Keans fault and it isn't Singhs fault.
It's all the fans fault is it ?
Nah just kidding really, although the supporters are hardly blame free, maybe someone will from another action group called BLAME FREE to go with the other twenty formed so far with one member each. One of the groups has three members and a laptop y'know.
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]8 Ball Deluxe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Howe2win[/bold] wrote: Unbelievable you Rovers Fans! You win 2 games after just 1 in 10 and you still moan. Maybe the problem with Rovers is not the owners, nor Kean or Berg, nor Shebby or Shaw. Maybe, just maybe, it's the fans![/p][/quote]Spot on.[/p][/quote]Come on 8 ball what have you been drinking ? So it isn't Venkys fault, it wasn't Keans fault and it isn't Singhs fault. It's all the fans fault is it ?[/p][/quote]Nah just kidding really, although the supporters are hardly blame free, maybe someone will from another action group called BLAME FREE to go with the other twenty formed so far with one member each. One of the groups has three members and a laptop y'know. 8 Ball Deluxe
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11:15am Wed 2 Jan 13

Is Eckersley playing? says...

owd nick wrote:
Hard to see what the best option is, Bowyer has done more in two games than the last two managers achieved in the best part of two years.

He has the players playing for him, they are better organised than we have seen for a long time and some confidence is creeping back in, which was desperately required plus the added bonus of a little luck going our way for once doesn't go amiss.

And the majority of the fans who bothered to turn up instead of ranting on here and on forums went home happy.

He isn't experienced in managing a club but he is experienced in managing players and staff, and he knows the club and the players inside out

I think the majority of Rovers fans want Hughes back (me included), but his advisers have made it very clear he isn't interested, so anyone who thinks that is going to happen any day soon is in the same part of LaLa land that Venky's inhabit.

Nowhere near the part the Shebby inhabits I might add, he is off the scale.

So any managerial appointment no matter who it is, is going to be second, third, fourth etc; choice to most Rovers fans. and with all the infighting going on behind the scenes that is extremely dangerous if they get the wrong man in from the fans point of view.

But we need stability, from what I have seen so far I think Bowyer could give us a level of that.

So I think the best option is to let Bowyer get on with it for now while the expensive, lazy, whingers and whiners, who I suspect did for Berg, are cleared out over the next couple of weeks (hopefully), then if we get someone in he can hit the ground running, whoever he is.
Another good post - I'm with you!
[quote][p][bold]owd nick[/bold] wrote: Hard to see what the best option is, Bowyer has done more in two games than the last two managers achieved in the best part of two years. He has the players playing for him, they are better organised than we have seen for a long time and some confidence is creeping back in, which was desperately required plus the added bonus of a little luck going our way for once doesn't go amiss. And the majority of the fans who bothered to turn up instead of ranting on here and on forums went home happy. He isn't experienced in managing a club but he is experienced in managing players and staff, and he knows the club and the players inside out I think the majority of Rovers fans want Hughes back (me included), but his advisers have made it very clear he isn't interested, so anyone who thinks that is going to happen any day soon is in the same part of LaLa land that Venky's inhabit. Nowhere near the part the Shebby inhabits I might add, he is off the scale. So any managerial appointment no matter who it is, is going to be second, third, fourth etc; choice to most Rovers fans. and with all the infighting going on behind the scenes that is extremely dangerous if they get the wrong man in from the fans point of view. But we need stability, from what I have seen so far I think Bowyer could give us a level of that. So I think the best option is to let Bowyer get on with it for now while the expensive, lazy, whingers and whiners, who I suspect did for Berg, are cleared out over the next couple of weeks (hopefully), then if we get someone in he can hit the ground running, whoever he is.[/p][/quote]Another good post - I'm with you! Is Eckersley playing?
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11:16am Wed 2 Jan 13

benal13 says...

so we win two matches against cr@p teams and everything is ok to some on here, saying give bowyer a chance that is just what the idiots in charge want to hear so they can go with there tried and tested cheap option again, the only good thing about it is they dont realise that when they get it wrong it costs them in compensation payouts they are more interested in making cartoons of has been footballers but if thet are not carefull they may have a has been football club mind you walt disney didnt do to badly out of MICKEY MOUSE did he !!!!!!!!!!?
so we win two matches against cr@p teams and everything is ok to some on here, saying give bowyer a chance that is just what the idiots in charge want to hear so they can go with there tried and tested cheap option again, the only good thing about it is they dont realise that when they get it wrong it costs them in compensation payouts they are more interested in making cartoons of has been footballers but if thet are not carefull they may have a has been football club mind you walt disney didnt do to badly out of MICKEY MOUSE did he !!!!!!!!!!? benal13
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11:17am Wed 2 Jan 13

Harwoodstblue says...

8 Ball Deluxe wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
8 Ball Deluxe wrote:
Howe2win wrote:
Unbelievable you Rovers Fans! You win 2 games after just 1 in 10 and you still moan. Maybe the problem with Rovers is not the owners, nor Kean or Berg, nor Shebby or Shaw. Maybe, just maybe, it's the fans!
Spot on.
Come on 8 ball what have you been drinking ?

So it isn't Venkys fault, it wasn't Keans fault and it isn't Singhs fault.
It's all the fans fault is it ?
Nah just kidding really, although the supporters are hardly blame free, maybe someone will from another action group called BLAME FREE to go with the other twenty formed so far with one member each. One of the groups has three members and a laptop y'know.
..... :-)...... Happy New Year 8 ball.
[quote][p][bold]8 Ball Deluxe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]8 Ball Deluxe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Howe2win[/bold] wrote: Unbelievable you Rovers Fans! You win 2 games after just 1 in 10 and you still moan. Maybe the problem with Rovers is not the owners, nor Kean or Berg, nor Shebby or Shaw. Maybe, just maybe, it's the fans![/p][/quote]Spot on.[/p][/quote]Come on 8 ball what have you been drinking ? So it isn't Venkys fault, it wasn't Keans fault and it isn't Singhs fault. It's all the fans fault is it ?[/p][/quote]Nah just kidding really, although the supporters are hardly blame free, maybe someone will from another action group called BLAME FREE to go with the other twenty formed so far with one member each. One of the groups has three members and a laptop y'know.[/p][/quote]..... :-)...... Happy New Year 8 ball. Harwoodstblue
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11:21am Wed 2 Jan 13

Angry From Accrington says...

If it has to be an immediate choice between Bowyer, Davies or Taylor I would reluctantly go with Bowyer. Davies and Taylor both have baggage and Ewood Park is no place to begin their rehabilitation process. That said, it does not need to be an immediate choice. Leave Bowyer as caretaker for the next week or so until Venky's decide who is actually running the football club and this might persuade a more credible candidate to come forward. As for the transfer window, that's relatively straight forward. Two full backs and two centre backs to come in and a bundle of surplus midfielders off the books to free up their wages.
If it has to be an immediate choice between Bowyer, Davies or Taylor I would reluctantly go with Bowyer. Davies and Taylor both have baggage and Ewood Park is no place to begin their rehabilitation process. That said, it does not need to be an immediate choice. Leave Bowyer as caretaker for the next week or so until Venky's decide who is actually running the football club and this might persuade a more credible candidate to come forward. As for the transfer window, that's relatively straight forward. Two full backs and two centre backs to come in and a bundle of surplus midfielders off the books to free up their wages. Angry From Accrington
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11:24am Wed 2 Jan 13

Tom F. says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
8 Ball Deluxe wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
8 Ball Deluxe wrote:
Howe2win wrote:
Unbelievable you Rovers Fans! You win 2 games after just 1 in 10 and you still moan. Maybe the problem with Rovers is not the owners, nor Kean or Berg, nor Shebby or Shaw. Maybe, just maybe, it's the fans!
Spot on.
Come on 8 ball what have you been drinking ?

So it isn't Venkys fault, it wasn't Keans fault and it isn't Singhs fault.
It's all the fans fault is it ?
Nah just kidding really, although the supporters are hardly blame free, maybe someone will from another action group called BLAME FREE to go with the other twenty formed so far with one member each. One of the groups has three members and a laptop y'know.
..... :-)...... Happy New Year 8 ball.
It is the FANS! Those boooooboys destroy our rovers.
Leave us alone,.........Out with the booooooooooboys!
Out with harwoodstblue!!!
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]8 Ball Deluxe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]8 Ball Deluxe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Howe2win[/bold] wrote: Unbelievable you Rovers Fans! You win 2 games after just 1 in 10 and you still moan. Maybe the problem with Rovers is not the owners, nor Kean or Berg, nor Shebby or Shaw. Maybe, just maybe, it's the fans![/p][/quote]Spot on.[/p][/quote]Come on 8 ball what have you been drinking ? So it isn't Venkys fault, it wasn't Keans fault and it isn't Singhs fault. It's all the fans fault is it ?[/p][/quote]Nah just kidding really, although the supporters are hardly blame free, maybe someone will from another action group called BLAME FREE to go with the other twenty formed so far with one member each. One of the groups has three members and a laptop y'know.[/p][/quote]..... :-)...... Happy New Year 8 ball.[/p][/quote]It is the FANS! Those boooooboys destroy our rovers. Leave us alone,.........Out with the booooooooooboys! Out with harwoodstblue!!! Tom F.
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11:26am Wed 2 Jan 13

bobinspain says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
"Owners Venky’s not wanting to disrupt the momentum he is building."

Well that's about the most sensible thing I've ever heard them say and it gives us more time to get the right man in.
It may be sensible (and I'm not decrying Bowyer's achievements), but it's yet more cynical and disingenuous claptrap from Venky's.

It's worthy of our slimiest political, double-speak wallahs.

Why not come clean? Along the lines of, ---- "SS has made a complete pigs ear of things and we're sitting tight in the hope that things'll right themselves without us having to spend any money."

One thing's for sure, Venky's have not improved their standing in anyones eyes with this blatant display of mendacity.
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: "Owners Venky’s not wanting to disrupt the momentum he is building." Well that's about the most sensible thing I've ever heard them say and it gives us more time to get the right man in.[/p][/quote]It may be sensible (and I'm not decrying Bowyer's achievements), but it's yet more cynical and disingenuous claptrap from Venky's. It's worthy of our slimiest political, double-speak wallahs. Why not come clean? Along the lines of, ---- "SS has made a complete pigs ear of things and we're sitting tight in the hope that things'll right themselves without us having to spend any money." One thing's for sure, Venky's have not improved their standing in anyones eyes with this blatant display of mendacity. bobinspain
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11:26am Wed 2 Jan 13

FootyLad121 says...

If Rovers appoint Peter Taylor, i will give up on this once great club.

Taylor has not lasted longer than a season at 7 out of his last 8 league clubs! Tells its own story really.

From what i know within the club Bowyer is well respected, a very personable character and more importantly a great coach.

I would be happy to see him as new manager, but whoever we get...everyone has got to support the manager from the get go....COYB
If Rovers appoint Peter Taylor, i will give up on this once great club. Taylor has not lasted longer than a season at 7 out of his last 8 league clubs! Tells its own story really. From what i know within the club Bowyer is well respected, a very personable character and more importantly a great coach. I would be happy to see him as new manager, but whoever we get...everyone has got to support the manager from the get go....COYB FootyLad121
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11:27am Wed 2 Jan 13

8 Ball Deluxe says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
8 Ball Deluxe wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
8 Ball Deluxe wrote:
Howe2win wrote:
Unbelievable you Rovers Fans! You win 2 games after just 1 in 10 and you still moan. Maybe the problem with Rovers is not the owners, nor Kean or Berg, nor Shebby or Shaw. Maybe, just maybe, it's the fans!
Spot on.
Come on 8 ball what have you been drinking ?

So it isn't Venkys fault, it wasn't Keans fault and it isn't Singhs fault.
It's all the fans fault is it ?
Nah just kidding really, although the supporters are hardly blame free, maybe someone will from another action group called BLAME FREE to go with the other twenty formed so far with one member each. One of the groups has three members and a laptop y'know.
..... :-)...... Happy New Year 8 ball.
Happy New Year
I have a feeling that the worst in our history is now behind us. I actually feel, there is light at the end of the tunnel. 5 points outside the playoffs with a game in hand is a lot better than three weeks ago.
There is now no immediate rush to sign some journeyman manager and get it wrong again. We can now take our time and either get the right man in or stick with Bowyer if he can continue the momentum, dependant on results of course.
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]8 Ball Deluxe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]8 Ball Deluxe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Howe2win[/bold] wrote: Unbelievable you Rovers Fans! You win 2 games after just 1 in 10 and you still moan. Maybe the problem with Rovers is not the owners, nor Kean or Berg, nor Shebby or Shaw. Maybe, just maybe, it's the fans![/p][/quote]Spot on.[/p][/quote]Come on 8 ball what have you been drinking ? So it isn't Venkys fault, it wasn't Keans fault and it isn't Singhs fault. It's all the fans fault is it ?[/p][/quote]Nah just kidding really, although the supporters are hardly blame free, maybe someone will from another action group called BLAME FREE to go with the other twenty formed so far with one member each. One of the groups has three members and a laptop y'know.[/p][/quote]..... :-)...... Happy New Year 8 ball.[/p][/quote]Happy New Year I have a feeling that the worst in our history is now behind us. I actually feel, there is light at the end of the tunnel. 5 points outside the playoffs with a game in hand is a lot better than three weeks ago. There is now no immediate rush to sign some journeyman manager and get it wrong again. We can now take our time and either get the right man in or stick with Bowyer if he can continue the momentum, dependant on results of course. 8 Ball Deluxe
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11:27am Wed 2 Jan 13

Tom F. says...

1952 rover wrote:
Howe2win wrote:
Unbelievable you Rovers Fans! You win 2 games after just 1 in 10 and you still moan. Maybe the problem with Rovers is not the owners, nor Kean or Berg, nor Shebby or Shaw. Maybe, just maybe, it's the fans!
dingle i presume. sod off.
Rover f.... Off!
Spot on home2win!
That is what i preach Daily,.....boooooboy
s destroy our club!
[quote][p][bold]1952 rover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Howe2win[/bold] wrote: Unbelievable you Rovers Fans! You win 2 games after just 1 in 10 and you still moan. Maybe the problem with Rovers is not the owners, nor Kean or Berg, nor Shebby or Shaw. Maybe, just maybe, it's the fans![/p][/quote]dingle i presume. sod off.[/p][/quote]Rover f.... Off! Spot on home2win! That is what i preach Daily,.....boooooboy s destroy our club! Tom F.
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11:29am Wed 2 Jan 13

Tom F. says...

chickenfarm wrote:
Howe2win wrote:
Unbelievable you Rovers Fans! You win 2 games after just 1 in 10 and you still moan. Maybe the problem with Rovers is not the owners, nor Kean or Berg, nor Shebby or Shaw. Maybe, just maybe, it's the fans!
Too true it is the fans. When the fans think their have a right to be in the Premiership you deserve nothing.
Small club with very narrow minded fans
Spot ON
[quote][p][bold]chickenfarm[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Howe2win[/bold] wrote: Unbelievable you Rovers Fans! You win 2 games after just 1 in 10 and you still moan. Maybe the problem with Rovers is not the owners, nor Kean or Berg, nor Shebby or Shaw. Maybe, just maybe, it's the fans![/p][/quote]Too true it is the fans. When the fans think their have a right to be in the Premiership you deserve nothing. Small club with very narrow minded fans[/p][/quote]Spot ON Tom F.
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11:30am Wed 2 Jan 13

8 Ball Deluxe says...

FootyLad121 wrote:
If Rovers appoint Peter Taylor, i will give up on this once great club.

Taylor has not lasted longer than a season at 7 out of his last 8 league clubs! Tells its own story really.

From what i know within the club Bowyer is well respected, a very personable character and more importantly a great coach.

I would be happy to see him as new manager, but whoever we get...everyone has got to support the manager from the get go....COYB
My sentiments exactly. Bowyer is a good guy. and the players have responded to someone they know well.
[quote][p][bold]FootyLad121[/bold] wrote: If Rovers appoint Peter Taylor, i will give up on this once great club. Taylor has not lasted longer than a season at 7 out of his last 8 league clubs! Tells its own story really. From what i know within the club Bowyer is well respected, a very personable character and more importantly a great coach. I would be happy to see him as new manager, but whoever we get...everyone has got to support the manager from the get go....COYB[/p][/quote]My sentiments exactly. Bowyer is a good guy. and the players have responded to someone they know well. 8 Ball Deluxe
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11:30am Wed 2 Jan 13

Is Eckersley playing? says...

Shabby Shebby was skulking in a private box at the match with his new mate, |Juden. He obviously can't face the fans from the Directors Box. How can the man carry on at this club? His fellow directors hate his guts, the fans hate his guts and he has become a national laughing stock. Is he going to hang on like Kean, or will he get the message and go? Yet another decision for Venkys. I suppose they are still 'confused'.
Shabby Shebby was skulking in a private box at the match with his new mate, |Juden. He obviously can't face the fans from the Directors Box. How can the man carry on at this club? His fellow directors hate his guts, the fans hate his guts and he has become a national laughing stock. Is he going to hang on like Kean, or will he get the message and go? Yet another decision for Venkys. I suppose they are still 'confused'. Is Eckersley playing?
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11:31am Wed 2 Jan 13

Harwoodstblue says...

Angry From Accrington wrote:
If it has to be an immediate choice between Bowyer, Davies or Taylor I would reluctantly go with Bowyer. Davies and Taylor both have baggage and Ewood Park is no place to begin their rehabilitation process. That said, it does not need to be an immediate choice. Leave Bowyer as caretaker for the next week or so until Venky's decide who is actually running the football club and this might persuade a more credible candidate to come forward. As for the transfer window, that's relatively straight forward. Two full backs and two centre backs to come in and a bundle of surplus midfielders off the books to free up their wages.
I agree, leave things as they are until the right man becomes available.

Bowyer's doing alright in the meantime.
[quote][p][bold]Angry From Accrington[/bold] wrote: If it has to be an immediate choice between Bowyer, Davies or Taylor I would reluctantly go with Bowyer. Davies and Taylor both have baggage and Ewood Park is no place to begin their rehabilitation process. That said, it does not need to be an immediate choice. Leave Bowyer as caretaker for the next week or so until Venky's decide who is actually running the football club and this might persuade a more credible candidate to come forward. As for the transfer window, that's relatively straight forward. Two full backs and two centre backs to come in and a bundle of surplus midfielders off the books to free up their wages.[/p][/quote]I agree, leave things as they are until the right man becomes available. Bowyer's doing alright in the meantime. Harwoodstblue
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11:31am Wed 2 Jan 13

Riverside 7 says...

Dan11 wrote:
If it was there plan to appoint Peter Taylor as permanent manager on another 2/3 year deal, then I am glad that Gary Bowyer's good management and motivation has avoided us making that mistake.
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I however disagree with keeping him as caretaker for the Bristol City game alone. We need an appointment now. There is a transfer window open, and quiet frankly, some inept players that need to be let go and new players brought in. We need a manager to do that, given the managers title. Not a caretaker muddling on and a "global bull-shi-tter" in the background making an idiot of themselves whilst signing more rubbish.
-
If you want to back Gary Bowyer, give him the job to the end of the season as a trial. If you do not want to, give someone else the job. But do not give it Peter Taylor, who was run out of Crystal Palace in 2007 after doing a terrible job.
Well done to Gary Bowyer. He has achieved 2 wins from 2 games with the same squad as Berg who could only manage 1 win in 10.

A poor first half performance but he then made changes to the formation, had another slice of luck with the first goal and the players looked like they enjoyed playing for him.

However, I agree with other posters in that we need an experienced manager in soon but we mustn't make a rash decision.

What really worries me is that Shaw & Agnew are barely on speaking terms with Shebby.
If true. how can the football club function properly?

With regard to Peter Taylor and Billy Davies
Six of us had a vote in the club after the game.
5 opted for Davies and only 1 voted for Taylor.
Not sure if this would reflect the views of all Rovers fans, but if Taylor does get the job, he will not be a popular choice.

Like Berg, just where did his name come from?
[quote][p][bold]Dan11[/bold] wrote: If it was there plan to appoint Peter Taylor as permanent manager on another 2/3 year deal, then I am glad that Gary Bowyer's good management and motivation has avoided us making that mistake. - I however disagree with keeping him as caretaker for the Bristol City game alone. We need an appointment now. There is a transfer window open, and quiet frankly, some inept players that need to be let go and new players brought in. We need a manager to do that, given the managers title. Not a caretaker muddling on and a "global bull-shi-tter" in the background making an idiot of themselves whilst signing more rubbish. - If you want to back Gary Bowyer, give him the job to the end of the season as a trial. If you do not want to, give someone else the job. But do not give it Peter Taylor, who was run out of Crystal Palace in 2007 after doing a terrible job.[/p][/quote]Well done to Gary Bowyer. He has achieved 2 wins from 2 games with the same squad as Berg who could only manage 1 win in 10. A poor first half performance but he then made changes to the formation, had another slice of luck with the first goal and the players looked like they enjoyed playing for him. However, I agree with other posters in that we need an experienced manager in soon but we mustn't make a rash decision. What really worries me is that Shaw & Agnew are barely on speaking terms with Shebby. If true. how can the football club function properly? With regard to Peter Taylor and Billy Davies Six of us had a vote in the club after the game. 5 opted for Davies and only 1 voted for Taylor. Not sure if this would reflect the views of all Rovers fans, but if Taylor does get the job, he will not be a popular choice. Like Berg, just where did his name come from? Riverside 7
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11:38am Wed 2 Jan 13

8 Ball Deluxe says...

Tom F. wrote:
chickenfarm wrote:
Howe2win wrote:
Unbelievable you Rovers Fans! You win 2 games after just 1 in 10 and you still moan. Maybe the problem with Rovers is not the owners, nor Kean or Berg, nor Shebby or Shaw. Maybe, just maybe, it's the fans!
Too true it is the fans. When the fans think their have a right to be in the Premiership you deserve nothing.
Small club with very narrow minded fans
Spot ON
A pair of camouflaged dingles, forgetting we can spot there six digits, beards and breasts and detect the faint odour of urine stained potatoe sack underwear. It amazes me the lengths some of these dingles will go to try and stir unrest. Actually pretending to be Rovers fans and peddling their negative bile. Make a note of the usernames and skip over in future. You've been OUTED.
[quote][p][bold]Tom F.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chickenfarm[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Howe2win[/bold] wrote: Unbelievable you Rovers Fans! You win 2 games after just 1 in 10 and you still moan. Maybe the problem with Rovers is not the owners, nor Kean or Berg, nor Shebby or Shaw. Maybe, just maybe, it's the fans![/p][/quote]Too true it is the fans. When the fans think their have a right to be in the Premiership you deserve nothing. Small club with very narrow minded fans[/p][/quote]Spot ON[/p][/quote]A pair of camouflaged dingles, forgetting we can spot there six digits, beards and breasts and detect the faint odour of urine stained potatoe sack underwear. It amazes me the lengths some of these dingles will go to try and stir unrest. Actually pretending to be Rovers fans and peddling their negative bile. Make a note of the usernames and skip over in future. You've been OUTED. 8 Ball Deluxe
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11:46am Wed 2 Jan 13

Inthepointyend says...

MikeD wrote:
cruzy_cruz wrote:
Bowyer is just what Venkys love.

Cheap and a kopout when it comes to havng to make a decision.

Bowyer should NEVER be in contention irrespective of whether he beats the bottom of the league, a forest in crisis and a poor Bristol 2nd XI
Surely what we want is a manager who can win matches convincingly, and that is what Bowyer has achieved in the last 2 games. Experience isn't all it's cracked up to be. McLeish is the perfect example of that. And everybody's favourite, Harry Redknapp, hasn't exactly got QPR playing like champions yet. Mark Hughes put QPR there in the first place, and didn't exactly set the world alight in his previous 2 jobs either. I don't agree with this teenage infatuation with big name managers. If the team keeps on winning and playing well under Bowyer and the players respect him, then he should DEFINITELY be in contention.
Absolutely spot on.
[quote][p][bold]MikeD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cruzy_cruz[/bold] wrote: Bowyer is just what Venkys love. Cheap and a kopout when it comes to havng to make a decision. Bowyer should NEVER be in contention irrespective of whether he beats the bottom of the league, a forest in crisis and a poor Bristol 2nd XI[/p][/quote]Surely what we want is a manager who can win matches convincingly, and that is what Bowyer has achieved in the last 2 games. Experience isn't all it's cracked up to be. McLeish is the perfect example of that. And everybody's favourite, Harry Redknapp, hasn't exactly got QPR playing like champions yet. Mark Hughes put QPR there in the first place, and didn't exactly set the world alight in his previous 2 jobs either. I don't agree with this teenage infatuation with big name managers. If the team keeps on winning and playing well under Bowyer and the players respect him, then he should DEFINITELY be in contention.[/p][/quote]Absolutely spot on. Inthepointyend
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11:46am Wed 2 Jan 13

blueblooded says...

Howe2win wrote:
Unbelievable you Rovers Fans! You win 2 games after just 1 in 10 and you still moan. Maybe the problem with Rovers is not the owners, nor Kean or Berg, nor Shebby or Shaw. Maybe, just maybe, it's the fans!
Some people are never happy.

If Venly's get us promoted, they will moan that we should have never got relegated in the first place. If we made it to Champions league football, they would probably moan its two years too late.

But if we get relegated to division one, they'll smugly tell you, they did tell you so.

Glass always half empty some people, that's just they way they are.

Its a difficult decision to make, Bowyer has the dressing room and the players are playing better football because of it. Do you upset the apple cart and rush someone in or do you risk the transfer window but wait and make the CORRECT decision?

Those calling this a cheapo way of avoiding spending money have no idea of business obviously. The wage bill alone should tell you they don't welch out on paying out - whether you believe its their own money or not, not forgetting the ridiculous wage of one Global Advisor alone.

I highly doubt at this critical juncture, Venky's are thinking about how to save money, rather how to get out of this mess and turn things around. Rumour has it, Shebby isnt flavour of the month at the moment with the 606 interview causing huge embarrassment where it matters to Venky's, this itself could be a reason for the delay, it certainly seems that the appointment is to be a Venkys choice and not Shebby one - or else McDonald would already have been announced yesterday surely?

Also for those who question Bowyer as a contender, how many matches would he have to consecutively win for you to change your mind, or is his lack of experience to be his his achilles heel regardless of performances?

Take your time and get it right Venky's - its the right thing to do.
[quote][p][bold]Howe2win[/bold] wrote: Unbelievable you Rovers Fans! You win 2 games after just 1 in 10 and you still moan. Maybe the problem with Rovers is not the owners, nor Kean or Berg, nor Shebby or Shaw. Maybe, just maybe, it's the fans![/p][/quote]Some people are never happy. If Venly's get us promoted, they will moan that we should have never got relegated in the first place. If we made it to Champions league football, they would probably moan its two years too late. But if we get relegated to division one, they'll smugly tell you, they did tell you so. Glass always half empty some people, that's just they way they are. Its a difficult decision to make, Bowyer has the dressing room and the players are playing better football because of it. Do you upset the apple cart and rush someone in or do you risk the transfer window but wait and make the CORRECT decision? Those calling this a cheapo way of avoiding spending money have no idea of business obviously. The wage bill alone should tell you they don't welch out on paying out - whether you believe its their own money or not, not forgetting the ridiculous wage of one Global Advisor alone. I highly doubt at this critical juncture, Venky's are thinking about how to save money, rather how to get out of this mess and turn things around. Rumour has it, Shebby isnt flavour of the month at the moment with the 606 interview causing huge embarrassment where it matters to Venky's, this itself could be a reason for the delay, it certainly seems that the appointment is to be a Venkys choice and not Shebby one - or else McDonald would already have been announced yesterday surely? Also for those who question Bowyer as a contender, how many matches would he have to consecutively win for you to change your mind, or is his lack of experience to be his his achilles heel regardless of performances? Take your time and get it right Venky's - its the right thing to do. blueblooded
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11:48am Wed 2 Jan 13

Tom F. says...

blueblooded wrote:
Howe2win wrote:
Unbelievable you Rovers Fans! You win 2 games after just 1 in 10 and you still moan. Maybe the problem with Rovers is not the owners, nor Kean or Berg, nor Shebby or Shaw. Maybe, just maybe, it's the fans!
Some people are never happy.

If Venly's get us promoted, they will moan that we should have never got relegated in the first place. If we made it to Champions league football, they would probably moan its two years too late.

But if we get relegated to division one, they'll smugly tell you, they did tell you so.

Glass always half empty some people, that's just they way they are.

Its a difficult decision to make, Bowyer has the dressing room and the players are playing better football because of it. Do you upset the apple cart and rush someone in or do you risk the transfer window but wait and make the CORRECT decision?

Those calling this a cheapo way of avoiding spending money have no idea of business obviously. The wage bill alone should tell you they don't welch out on paying out - whether you believe its their own money or not, not forgetting the ridiculous wage of one Global Advisor alone.

I highly doubt at this critical juncture, Venky's are thinking about how to save money, rather how to get out of this mess and turn things around. Rumour has it, Shebby isnt flavour of the month at the moment with the 606 interview causing huge embarrassment where it matters to Venky's, this itself could be a reason for the delay, it certainly seems that the appointment is to be a Venkys choice and not Shebby one - or else McDonald would already have been announced yesterday surely?

Also for those who question Bowyer as a contender, how many matches would he have to consecutively win for you to change your mind, or is his lack of experience to be his his achilles heel regardless of performances?

Take your time and get it right Venky's - its the right thing to do.
Spot ON
[quote][p][bold]blueblooded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Howe2win[/bold] wrote: Unbelievable you Rovers Fans! You win 2 games after just 1 in 10 and you still moan. Maybe the problem with Rovers is not the owners, nor Kean or Berg, nor Shebby or Shaw. Maybe, just maybe, it's the fans![/p][/quote]Some people are never happy. If Venly's get us promoted, they will moan that we should have never got relegated in the first place. If we made it to Champions league football, they would probably moan its two years too late. But if we get relegated to division one, they'll smugly tell you, they did tell you so. Glass always half empty some people, that's just they way they are. Its a difficult decision to make, Bowyer has the dressing room and the players are playing better football because of it. Do you upset the apple cart and rush someone in or do you risk the transfer window but wait and make the CORRECT decision? Those calling this a cheapo way of avoiding spending money have no idea of business obviously. The wage bill alone should tell you they don't welch out on paying out - whether you believe its their own money or not, not forgetting the ridiculous wage of one Global Advisor alone. I highly doubt at this critical juncture, Venky's are thinking about how to save money, rather how to get out of this mess and turn things around. Rumour has it, Shebby isnt flavour of the month at the moment with the 606 interview causing huge embarrassment where it matters to Venky's, this itself could be a reason for the delay, it certainly seems that the appointment is to be a Venkys choice and not Shebby one - or else McDonald would already have been announced yesterday surely? Also for those who question Bowyer as a contender, how many matches would he have to consecutively win for you to change your mind, or is his lack of experience to be his his achilles heel regardless of performances? Take your time and get it right Venky's - its the right thing to do.[/p][/quote]Spot ON Tom F.
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11:48am Wed 2 Jan 13

Gaz M says...

If Venkys want to improve the situation at Ewood they must get rid of Singh as soon as!, he is more a destructive influence than a positive. They must also let the people at the club run things and let them decide on the new manager ,Boyer has done well but it could be to early for him to take the post up full time.We need an established manager to work with the staff we have left and hope fully get some funds for recruitment in this window, on the evidence from Venkys over the past couple of seasons I am not holding my breath as they continue to flutter about like headless chickens!, pardon the pun.
If Venkys want to improve the situation at Ewood they must get rid of Singh as soon as!, he is more a destructive influence than a positive. They must also let the people at the club run things and let them decide on the new manager ,Boyer has done well but it could be to early for him to take the post up full time.We need an established manager to work with the staff we have left and hope fully get some funds for recruitment in this window, on the evidence from Venkys over the past couple of seasons I am not holding my breath as they continue to flutter about like headless chickens!, pardon the pun. Gaz M
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11:50am Wed 2 Jan 13

Heidenreicher says...

Howe2win wrote:
Unbelievable you Rovers Fans! You win 2 games after just 1 in 10 and you still moan. Maybe the problem with Rovers is not the owners, nor Kean or Berg, nor Shebby or Shaw. Maybe, just maybe, it's the fans!
I think you're being delusional. It would appear people/fans are giving Bowyer some praise...so STFU.
[quote][p][bold]Howe2win[/bold] wrote: Unbelievable you Rovers Fans! You win 2 games after just 1 in 10 and you still moan. Maybe the problem with Rovers is not the owners, nor Kean or Berg, nor Shebby or Shaw. Maybe, just maybe, it's the fans![/p][/quote]I think you're being delusional. It would appear people/fans are giving Bowyer some praise...so STFU. Heidenreicher
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11:50am Wed 2 Jan 13

Tom F. says...

8 Ball Deluxe wrote:
Tom F. wrote:
chickenfarm wrote:
Howe2win wrote:
Unbelievable you Rovers Fans! You win 2 games after just 1 in 10 and you still moan. Maybe the problem with Rovers is not the owners, nor Kean or Berg, nor Shebby or Shaw. Maybe, just maybe, it's the fans!
Too true it is the fans. When the fans think their have a right to be in the Premiership you deserve nothing.
Small club with very narrow minded fans
Spot ON
A pair of camouflaged dingles, forgetting we can spot there six digits, beards and breasts and detect the faint odour of urine stained potatoe sack underwear. It amazes me the lengths some of these dingles will go to try and stir unrest. Actually pretending to be Rovers fans and peddling their negative bile. Make a note of the usernames and skip over in future. You've been OUTED.
F u . K you 8 Ball.
Wondering if u ve 1 Ball @ all!?
[quote][p][bold]8 Ball Deluxe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tom F.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chickenfarm[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Howe2win[/bold] wrote: Unbelievable you Rovers Fans! You win 2 games after just 1 in 10 and you still moan. Maybe the problem with Rovers is not the owners, nor Kean or Berg, nor Shebby or Shaw. Maybe, just maybe, it's the fans![/p][/quote]Too true it is the fans. When the fans think their have a right to be in the Premiership you deserve nothing. Small club with very narrow minded fans[/p][/quote]Spot ON[/p][/quote]A pair of camouflaged dingles, forgetting we can spot there six digits, beards and breasts and detect the faint odour of urine stained potatoe sack underwear. It amazes me the lengths some of these dingles will go to try and stir unrest. Actually pretending to be Rovers fans and peddling their negative bile. Make a note of the usernames and skip over in future. You've been OUTED.[/p][/quote]F u . K you 8 Ball. Wondering if u ve 1 Ball @ all!? Tom F.
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11:50am Wed 2 Jan 13

FootyLad121 says...

The likes of Di Matteo, Hughton, Adkins, the list goes on...have all succeeded in stepping up within the club and taking on the mantle.

I was all for experience etc etc, but to be quite honest, i have had enough of them.
I, as have many of you pumped money into this club for decades and just want our club back.

Lets give it to someone the players obviously respect and enjoy playing under.
The likes of Di Matteo, Hughton, Adkins, the list goes on...have all succeeded in stepping up within the club and taking on the mantle. I was all for experience etc etc, but to be quite honest, i have had enough of them. I, as have many of you pumped money into this club for decades and just want our club back. Lets give it to someone the players obviously respect and enjoy playing under. FootyLad121
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11:50am Wed 2 Jan 13

FootyLad121 says...

The likes of Di Matteo, Hughton, Adkins, the list goes on...have all succeeded in stepping up within the club and taking on the mantle.

I was all for experience etc etc, but to be quite honest, i have had enough of them.
I, as have many of you pumped money into this club for decades and just want our club back.

Lets give it to someone the players obviously respect and enjoy playing under.
The likes of Di Matteo, Hughton, Adkins, the list goes on...have all succeeded in stepping up within the club and taking on the mantle. I was all for experience etc etc, but to be quite honest, i have had enough of them. I, as have many of you pumped money into this club for decades and just want our club back. Lets give it to someone the players obviously respect and enjoy playing under. FootyLad121
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11:55am Wed 2 Jan 13

R.I.P. Rovers says...

not read all the comments but here is mine

I was at the game yesterday.... why change now? this team is now playing for a manager they weren't before with the previous two....

people say experience..... Bowyer had been at rovers for 8 years and seen our young squad grow..... 8 years experience with Blackburn Rovers I'd say he should be given the chance..... without a doubt
not read all the comments but here is mine I was at the game yesterday.... why change now? this team is now playing for a manager they weren't before with the previous two.... people say experience..... Bowyer had been at rovers for 8 years and seen our young squad grow..... 8 years experience with Blackburn Rovers I'd say he should be given the chance..... without a doubt R.I.P. Rovers
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11:55am Wed 2 Jan 13

hasslem hasslem says...

is it true that Shebby's utterances are to be sponsored by the Hokey Cokey?

in his next interview somebody should say to him "blackburn need to appoint an experienced wizard" and see if he replies with his "yes, very good - i agree we need an experienced wizard".....next say we would benefit from recruiting a ballet dancer as coach.....and hear him say "ballet dancers have a lot to contribute to day to day coaching at brockhall"

we all know that none of them (shabby, tweedle dee & dumb and the adams family) have a clue. anybody coming in will struggle with them. equally we all strongly suspect that there will be no incomings in january window so the new manager/head coach (call them what you want) will have to work with the existing squad. we have a half decent squad (left back and wide right excepted) which should get more right than wrong but would get slaughtered if we got promoted.

for what it's worth i would leave bowyer in (if he is prepared to work day to day with shabby and the other clowns) for the rest of the season:
1) he knows the issues within the club and there would be no surprises (if you can imagine such a thing at ewood)
2) he knows the existing first team squad, thier strengths and weaknesses
3) he knows the youth team and whether any of them would be ready to be blooded
4) he will (have to) accept there will be no new players coming in
5) for our lovely owners he will be a cheap option (and they are hemorrhaging cash as the tv money is much reduced and there is no samba, jones, n'zonzi etc to cash-in on).
is it true that Shebby's utterances are to be sponsored by the Hokey Cokey? in his next interview somebody should say to him "blackburn need to appoint an experienced wizard" and see if he replies with his "yes, very good - i agree we need an experienced wizard".....next say we would benefit from recruiting a ballet dancer as coach.....and hear him say "ballet dancers have a lot to contribute to day to day coaching at brockhall" we all know that none of them (shabby, tweedle dee & dumb and the adams family) have a clue. anybody coming in will struggle with them. equally we all strongly suspect that there will be no incomings in january window so the new manager/head coach (call them what you want) will have to work with the existing squad. we have a half decent squad (left back and wide right excepted) which should get more right than wrong but would get slaughtered if we got promoted. for what it's worth i would leave bowyer in (if he is prepared to work day to day with shabby and the other clowns) for the rest of the season: 1) he knows the issues within the club and there would be no surprises (if you can imagine such a thing at ewood) 2) he knows the existing first team squad, thier strengths and weaknesses 3) he knows the youth team and whether any of them would be ready to be blooded 4) he will (have to) accept there will be no new players coming in 5) for our lovely owners he will be a cheap option (and they are hemorrhaging cash as the tv money is much reduced and there is no samba, jones, n'zonzi etc to cash-in on). hasslem hasslem
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12:15pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Keen O to Get Kean Out says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
"Owners Venky’s not wanting to disrupt the momentum he is building." Well that's about the most sensible thing I've ever heard them say and it gives us more time to get the right man in.
what they mean is, 'hey we have a opportunity to employ a manager on the cheap again ''
up yours shebby you con man
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: "Owners Venky’s not wanting to disrupt the momentum he is building." Well that's about the most sensible thing I've ever heard them say and it gives us more time to get the right man in.[/p][/quote]what they mean is, 'hey we have a opportunity to employ a manager on the cheap again '' up yours shebby you con man Keen O to Get Kean Out
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12:18pm Wed 2 Jan 13

old man rover says...

It's a relief in a way and, given that Saturday is not a top priority, not a problem that they should take more time. Really I was losing sleep over the idea of Peter Taylor as manager and at least for the moment hehas drifted out in the betting. Whoever dredged him up from the primaeval slime is obviously conspiring in Rovers' downfall.
But really what a set of buffoons we have in charge. Can anything good ever happen with Venky's in charge. Doesn't seem likely.
It's a relief in a way and, given that Saturday is not a top priority, not a problem that they should take more time. Really I was losing sleep over the idea of Peter Taylor as manager and at least for the moment hehas drifted out in the betting. Whoever dredged him up from the primaeval slime is obviously conspiring in Rovers' downfall. But really what a set of buffoons we have in charge. Can anything good ever happen with Venky's in charge. Doesn't seem likely. old man rover
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12:22pm Wed 2 Jan 13

A Rover 45 years and over says...

cboyer wrote:
i honestly dont understand why everybody wanting hughes? he left a decent team in rovers and has done nothing since even after spending loads
Absolutely correct,
[quote][p][bold]cboyer[/bold] wrote: i honestly dont understand why everybody wanting hughes? he left a decent team in rovers and has done nothing since even after spending loads[/p][/quote]Absolutely correct, A Rover 45 years and over
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12:26pm Wed 2 Jan 13

gleechy says...

jeppo wrote:
come on lads, all you negative posters, lets be honest, if Rovers had announced that there was a new manager, there would be a load of other negative posts saying that we should keep Bowyer instead of going for a name...they cant win on this one!!
.
Got to be honest, if I was them, I'd be doing the same, lets give Bowyer a chance, its worked very well so far and with the squad we have, on paper, they shouldnt have to spend any more money!!
It's a forum for people to have different views, what's the point in everybody clap clappining and being of the same view?
[quote][p][bold]jeppo[/bold] wrote: come on lads, all you negative posters, lets be honest, if Rovers had announced that there was a new manager, there would be a load of other negative posts saying that we should keep Bowyer instead of going for a name...they cant win on this one!! . Got to be honest, if I was them, I'd be doing the same, lets give Bowyer a chance, its worked very well so far and with the squad we have, on paper, they shouldnt have to spend any more money!![/p][/quote]It's a forum for people to have different views, what's the point in everybody clap clappining and being of the same view? gleechy
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12:29pm Wed 2 Jan 13

A Rover 45 years and over says...

Whilst the 3 wise men continue to be unwise and refuse to work together we have got a big problem.
Whilst the 3 wise men continue to be unwise and refuse to work together we have got a big problem. A Rover 45 years and over
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12:31pm Wed 2 Jan 13

gleechy says...

S0d who's going to next Manager, they wouldn't take good advice anyway. I want to know who's going to win between Scabby and Shaw agnew, there's only one way to find out......
S0d who's going to next Manager, they wouldn't take good advice anyway. I want to know who's going to win between Scabby and Shaw agnew, there's only one way to find out...... gleechy
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12:36pm Wed 2 Jan 13

walshy2866 says...

Harwoodstblue wrote:
8 Ball Deluxe wrote:
Howe2win wrote:
Unbelievable you Rovers Fans! You win 2 games after just 1 in 10 and you still moan. Maybe the problem with Rovers is not the owners, nor Kean or Berg, nor Shebby or Shaw. Maybe, just maybe, it's the fans!
Spot on.
Come on 8 ball what have you been drinking ?

So it isn't Venkys fault, it wasn't Keans fault and it isn't Singhs fault.
It's all the fans fault is it ?
Who's fault was it when the dingles came within half an hour of becoming non-league then? Only 2000 turned up for most games that season. Rats and sinking ships spring to mind.
We might have discovered our hard core support level now is 12,000 to 14,000 but at least they give a f**k,hence keep voicing their opinion.
The average dingle just takes what's thrown at them and conveniently eradicates it from their mind, whilst being more interested in Rovers than their own tin-pot club.
You carry on boys because we're laughing at you clowns & your beloved club just as much. Interestingly , the ones I speak to have accepted brick layer is leaving , but such is their lack of brain power, they think their owners are doing what's right. A "well run club" is one of their favourites. If a well run club is happy to plod on with no ambition and their support is happy to see that happen while the owners keep filling their own pockets, that says a lot about them. Simple beyond belief doesn't come close!
[quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]8 Ball Deluxe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Howe2win[/bold] wrote: Unbelievable you Rovers Fans! You win 2 games after just 1 in 10 and you still moan. Maybe the problem with Rovers is not the owners, nor Kean or Berg, nor Shebby or Shaw. Maybe, just maybe, it's the fans![/p][/quote]Spot on.[/p][/quote]Come on 8 ball what have you been drinking ? So it isn't Venkys fault, it wasn't Keans fault and it isn't Singhs fault. It's all the fans fault is it ?[/p][/quote]Who's fault was it when the dingles came within half an hour of becoming non-league then? Only 2000 turned up for most games that season. Rats and sinking ships spring to mind. We might have discovered our hard core support level now is 12,000 to 14,000 but at least they give a f**k,hence keep voicing their opinion. The average dingle just takes what's thrown at them and conveniently eradicates it from their mind, whilst being more interested in Rovers than their own tin-pot club. You carry on boys because we're laughing at you clowns & your beloved club just as much. Interestingly , the ones I speak to have accepted brick layer is leaving , but such is their lack of brain power, they think their owners are doing what's right. A "well run club" is one of their favourites. If a well run club is happy to plod on with no ambition and their support is happy to see that happen while the owners keep filling their own pockets, that says a lot about them. Simple beyond belief doesn't come close! walshy2866
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12:41pm Wed 2 Jan 13

yellow man says...

People need to realise the club need rebuilding we no longer have Jack Walkers millions. The clubs we need to look to copy are WBA,Swansea,Norwich and Reading. Being ran on a budget with good administrators. We must choose are next manager carefully no rushing about like a wet hen. Gary Bowyer has won 2 out of 2 6pts he is doing something right. HB won 1 in 11 MH 2 at QPR lets get this one right remember "fools rush in".
People need to realise the club need rebuilding we no longer have Jack Walkers millions. The clubs we need to look to copy are WBA,Swansea,Norwich and Reading. Being ran on a budget with good administrators. We must choose are next manager carefully no rushing about like a wet hen. Gary Bowyer has won 2 out of 2 6pts he is doing something right. HB won 1 in 11 MH 2 at QPR lets get this one right remember "fools rush in". yellow man
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12:43pm Wed 2 Jan 13

yellow man says...

People need to realise the club need rebuilding we no longer have Jack Walkers millions. The clubs we need to look to copy are WBA,Swansea,Norwich and Reading. Being ran on a budget with good administrators. We must choose are next manager carefully no rushing about like a wet hen. Gary Bowyer has won 2 out of 2 6pts he is doing something right. HB won 1 in 11 MH 2 at QPR lets get this one right remember "fools rush in".
People need to realise the club need rebuilding we no longer have Jack Walkers millions. The clubs we need to look to copy are WBA,Swansea,Norwich and Reading. Being ran on a budget with good administrators. We must choose are next manager carefully no rushing about like a wet hen. Gary Bowyer has won 2 out of 2 6pts he is doing something right. HB won 1 in 11 MH 2 at QPR lets get this one right remember "fools rush in". yellow man
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12:45pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Is Eckersley playing? says...

hasslem hasslem wrote:
is it true that Shebby's utterances are to be sponsored by the Hokey Cokey?

in his next interview somebody should say to him "blackburn need to appoint an experienced wizard" and see if he replies with his "yes, very good - i agree we need an experienced wizard".....next say we would benefit from recruiting a ballet dancer as coach.....and hear him say "ballet dancers have a lot to contribute to day to day coaching at brockhall"

we all know that none of them (shabby, tweedle dee & dumb and the adams family) have a clue. anybody coming in will struggle with them. equally we all strongly suspect that there will be no incomings in january window so the new manager/head coach (call them what you want) will have to work with the existing squad. we have a half decent squad (left back and wide right excepted) which should get more right than wrong but would get slaughtered if we got promoted.

for what it's worth i would leave bowyer in (if he is prepared to work day to day with shabby and the other clowns) for the rest of the season:
1) he knows the issues within the club and there would be no surprises (if you can imagine such a thing at ewood)
2) he knows the existing first team squad, thier strengths and weaknesses
3) he knows the youth team and whether any of them would be ready to be blooded
4) he will (have to) accept there will be no new players coming in
5) for our lovely owners he will be a cheap option (and they are hemorrhaging cash as the tv money is much reduced and there is no samba, jones, n'zonzi etc to cash-in on).
I'm with you. Good call.
[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: is it true that Shebby's utterances are to be sponsored by the Hokey Cokey? in his next interview somebody should say to him "blackburn need to appoint an experienced wizard" and see if he replies with his "yes, very good - i agree we need an experienced wizard".....next say we would benefit from recruiting a ballet dancer as coach.....and hear him say "ballet dancers have a lot to contribute to day to day coaching at brockhall" we all know that none of them (shabby, tweedle dee & dumb and the adams family) have a clue. anybody coming in will struggle with them. equally we all strongly suspect that there will be no incomings in january window so the new manager/head coach (call them what you want) will have to work with the existing squad. we have a half decent squad (left back and wide right excepted) which should get more right than wrong but would get slaughtered if we got promoted. for what it's worth i would leave bowyer in (if he is prepared to work day to day with shabby and the other clowns) for the rest of the season: 1) he knows the issues within the club and there would be no surprises (if you can imagine such a thing at ewood) 2) he knows the existing first team squad, thier strengths and weaknesses 3) he knows the youth team and whether any of them would be ready to be blooded 4) he will (have to) accept there will be no new players coming in 5) for our lovely owners he will be a cheap option (and they are hemorrhaging cash as the tv money is much reduced and there is no samba, jones, n'zonzi etc to cash-in on).[/p][/quote]I'm with you. Good call. Is Eckersley playing?
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12:56pm Wed 2 Jan 13

blueblooded says...

hasslem hasslem wrote:
is it true that Shebby's utterances are to be sponsored by the Hokey Cokey?

in his next interview somebody should say to him "blackburn need to appoint an experienced wizard" and see if he replies with his "yes, very good - i agree we need an experienced wizard".....next say we would benefit from recruiting a ballet dancer as coach.....and hear him say "ballet dancers have a lot to contribute to day to day coaching at brockhall"

we all know that none of them (shabby, tweedle dee & dumb and the adams family) have a clue. anybody coming in will struggle with them. equally we all strongly suspect that there will be no incomings in january window so the new manager/head coach (call them what you want) will have to work with the existing squad. we have a half decent squad (left back and wide right excepted) which should get more right than wrong but would get slaughtered if we got promoted.

for what it's worth i would leave bowyer in (if he is prepared to work day to day with shabby and the other clowns) for the rest of the season:
1) he knows the issues within the club and there would be no surprises (if you can imagine such a thing at ewood)
2) he knows the existing first team squad, thier strengths and weaknesses
3) he knows the youth team and whether any of them would be ready to be blooded
4) he will (have to) accept there will be no new players coming in
5) for our lovely owners he will be a cheap option (and they are hemorrhaging cash as the tv money is much reduced and there is no samba, jones, n'zonzi etc to cash-in on).
"well Robbie, you know, I think you know, ballet dancing is like indian folk dance, so you know, I am sure, you know. we can (nervous chuckle) agree that ballet dancing would STUPID, I say STOOPID, why, why? why can anyone say something like that? WHY?"

Sorry.. couldn't help myself :D
[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: is it true that Shebby's utterances are to be sponsored by the Hokey Cokey? in his next interview somebody should say to him "blackburn need to appoint an experienced wizard" and see if he replies with his "yes, very good - i agree we need an experienced wizard".....next say we would benefit from recruiting a ballet dancer as coach.....and hear him say "ballet dancers have a lot to contribute to day to day coaching at brockhall" we all know that none of them (shabby, tweedle dee & dumb and the adams family) have a clue. anybody coming in will struggle with them. equally we all strongly suspect that there will be no incomings in january window so the new manager/head coach (call them what you want) will have to work with the existing squad. we have a half decent squad (left back and wide right excepted) which should get more right than wrong but would get slaughtered if we got promoted. for what it's worth i would leave bowyer in (if he is prepared to work day to day with shabby and the other clowns) for the rest of the season: 1) he knows the issues within the club and there would be no surprises (if you can imagine such a thing at ewood) 2) he knows the existing first team squad, thier strengths and weaknesses 3) he knows the youth team and whether any of them would be ready to be blooded 4) he will (have to) accept there will be no new players coming in 5) for our lovely owners he will be a cheap option (and they are hemorrhaging cash as the tv money is much reduced and there is no samba, jones, n'zonzi etc to cash-in on).[/p][/quote]"well Robbie, you know, I think you know, ballet dancing is like indian folk dance, so you know, I am sure, you know. we can (nervous chuckle) agree that ballet dancing would STUPID, I say STOOPID, why, why? why can anyone say something like that? WHY?" Sorry.. couldn't help myself :D blueblooded
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1:07pm Wed 2 Jan 13

earwego says...

King signs permanent deal for rovers could be a good signing for us
King signs permanent deal for rovers could be a good signing for us earwego
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1:23pm Wed 2 Jan 13

A Darener says...

earwego wrote:
King signs permanent deal for rovers could be a good signing for us
One signed only five or six more to come?
Who's going?
[quote][p][bold]earwego[/bold] wrote: King signs permanent deal for rovers could be a good signing for us[/p][/quote]One signed only five or six more to come? Who's going? A Darener
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1:27pm Wed 2 Jan 13

handyamBRFC says...

Happy new year
Great expectations at BRFC
weve hopefully turned the corner
1 or 2 signings and a manager and we should be gunning for the upper echelons of the league.

Great signings KIng and Best 2013
king is fast, young and energetic
Best should be just that too.

I believe we fans should do everything possible especially in difficult times to bring the fans & BRFC together.
We need to be stronger, we need to show the world we can come together in times of need and this period is that occasion.
I believe in BRFC and Blackburn and would ask every fan and resident of the Lancashire area to get together and be positive. We shall not be allowed to be dragged to the bottom of everything.
We are a proud people of Lancashire a proud club and we should raise ourselves to where we belong to the upper echelons of English society and the the premiership again one day soon.

to the football......!!
I think we should raid clubs who are thinking of bringing in new players themselves.

e.g. QPR as it seems are a club waiting to make changes to their staff hence a good time to get some of their players.
I can think of some at QPR who could fit the bill.
what about the hard man at QPR
perfect for our feeble weak team
and hes a leader...!!

what do you guys think..?
Givet is going in January.
Robinson can go..!
get rid of Dunn, Pedrs, Etuhu, Orr
basically all over 30 can go

A Defenders needed and a midfield general.

Arte et Labore
Happy new year Great expectations at BRFC weve hopefully turned the corner 1 or 2 signings and a manager and we should be gunning for the upper echelons of the league. Great signings KIng and Best 2013 king is fast, young and energetic Best should be just that too. I believe we fans should do everything possible especially in difficult times to bring the fans & BRFC together. We need to be stronger, we need to show the world we can come together in times of need and this period is that occasion. I believe in BRFC and Blackburn and would ask every fan and resident of the Lancashire area to get together and be positive. We shall not be allowed to be dragged to the bottom of everything. We are a proud people of Lancashire a proud club and we should raise ourselves to where we belong to the upper echelons of English society and the the premiership again one day soon. to the football......!! I think we should raid clubs who are thinking of bringing in new players themselves. e.g. QPR as it seems are a club waiting to make changes to their staff hence a good time to get some of their players. I can think of some at QPR who could fit the bill. what about the hard man at QPR perfect for our feeble weak team and hes a leader...!! what do you guys think..? Givet is going in January. Robinson can go..! get rid of Dunn, Pedrs, Etuhu, Orr basically all over 30 can go A Defenders needed and a midfield general. Arte et Labore handyamBRFC
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1:36pm Wed 2 Jan 13

handyamBRFC says...

BRFC fans....happy NEW YEAR.

Prospects look good...!
ok
I have tried to look at the 1st team squad and analyzed what players are ok and what potential we have and those that should be moved on.
I would like to hear what other fans views are?
List those who you want out?
What players would you like to see playing at BRFC ?
Have you seen any players you think could do the business for Rovers?
Let’s hear your views?

Paul Robinson - OK: let go if he wants out.
Grzegorz Sandomierski - Untried
Jake Kean –YOUNG Ok: Potential
Martin Olsson- OK Keep if motivated
Nuno Henrique- Untried Potential
Gael Givet- sell ; Ok Keep if motivated
Scott Dann- Ok Keep; sell if money is right
Josh Morris- YOUNG Ok Potential
Adam Henley- YOUNG Ok Potential
Grant Hanley- ok for squad not 1st team
Bruno Ribeiro- ok for squad; Potential
Jason Lowe- YOUNG Ok as squad member
David Dunn- past it; let go
Mauro Formica- Not good enough, sell if possible
Morten Gamst Pedersen- past it; let go
Danny Murphy- past it; let go
Marcus Olsson- ok for squad
Paulo Jorge- YOUNG Untried Potential
Dickson Etuhu- past it; let go
Simon Vukcevic- Ok Potential
Diogo Rosado- YOUNG OK Potential
Fabio Nunes- YOUNG OK Potential
Leon Best- ??? Hopefully ok
Jordan Rhodes- Keep of course
Joshua King- OK Buy Potential
Nuno Gomes- Ok Keep
Ruben Rochina- OK keep if motivated
Colin Kazim-Richards- OK Keep
Bradley Orr – Crap; sell
David Goodwillie ok But sell if money refunded.

we now require a midfield general, a leader, a box to box player someone who can command the team and motivate them.

& we require a good strong central defender to play alongside Dann as he lacks confident and cannot distribute the ball well.
Hopefully with a commanding figure in defence, Dann will be okay alongside.
BRFC fans....happy NEW YEAR. Prospects look good...! ok I have tried to look at the 1st team squad and analyzed what players are ok and what potential we have and those that should be moved on. I would like to hear what other fans views are? List those who you want out? What players would you like to see playing at BRFC ? Have you seen any players you think could do the business for Rovers? Let’s hear your views? Paul Robinson - OK: let go if he wants out. Grzegorz Sandomierski - Untried Jake Kean –YOUNG Ok: Potential Martin Olsson- OK Keep if motivated Nuno Henrique- Untried Potential Gael Givet- sell ; Ok Keep if motivated Scott Dann- Ok Keep; sell if money is right Josh Morris- YOUNG Ok Potential Adam Henley- YOUNG Ok Potential Grant Hanley- ok for squad not 1st team Bruno Ribeiro- ok for squad; Potential Jason Lowe- YOUNG Ok as squad member David Dunn- past it; let go Mauro Formica- Not good enough, sell if possible Morten Gamst Pedersen- past it; let go Danny Murphy- past it; let go Marcus Olsson- ok for squad Paulo Jorge- YOUNG Untried Potential Dickson Etuhu- past it; let go Simon Vukcevic- Ok Potential Diogo Rosado- YOUNG OK Potential Fabio Nunes- YOUNG OK Potential Leon Best- ??? Hopefully ok Jordan Rhodes- Keep of course Joshua King- OK Buy Potential Nuno Gomes- Ok Keep Ruben Rochina- OK keep if motivated Colin Kazim-Richards- OK Keep Bradley Orr – Crap; sell David Goodwillie ok But sell if money refunded. we now require a midfield general, a leader, a box to box player someone who can command the team and motivate them. & we require a good strong central defender to play alongside Dann as he lacks confident and cannot distribute the ball well. Hopefully with a commanding figure in defence, Dann will be okay alongside. handyamBRFC
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1:53pm Wed 2 Jan 13

alfa111 says...

G,Bowyer has already ruled himself out of the managers job and did singh already state publicly he had sent a short list of the next potential manager to venkys and he also stated he will be an experienced manager,hopefully with PL experience, lets wait and see now.
G,Bowyer has already ruled himself out of the managers job and did singh already state publicly he had sent a short list of the next potential manager to venkys and he also stated he will be an experienced manager,hopefully with PL experience, lets wait and see now. alfa111
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1:58pm Wed 2 Jan 13

jack01 says...

We need to ask ourselves what our objective is for this season and next. As Shebby/Venky's keep telling us, the ONLY objective they have is promotion back to the Premier League. I have no doubt that the financial situation at the club is unsustainable without either Premier League money or significant hand outs from Venkys.

If indeed we want to get promoted then there is one man who would virtually guarantee a play-off spot - Billy Davies.

In 5 full Championship seasons he has finished in the play-off places every single time. Its worth noting that was with Preston, Derby and Forest - none of whom have spent any money - which makes his achievements all the more remarkable. Its a strange one why he's been unemployed for 18 months since being harshly sacked by Forest, but it does appear he's a bit of a loudmouth who isn't afraid to criticse his bosses every week in the media. I would put good money on us getting promoted THIS SEASON if Davies was given the job in the next week. It should be a no-brainer. I'd prefer Davies to Hughes or Curbishley when you consider his record at this level.

If we're happy to plod along in mid-table with the likes of Burnley then there's no harm in taking a gamble and keeping Bowyer here longer term. I am very pleased that he's got the team playing much better than they were, but people suggesting he be given the job full time must have been living under a rock the last 2 years. It's an unnecessary risk to take when there are people out there who have achieved success over 10 years rather than 5 days.
We need to ask ourselves what our objective is for this season and next. As Shebby/Venky's keep telling us, the ONLY objective they have is promotion back to the Premier League. I have no doubt that the financial situation at the club is unsustainable without either Premier League money or significant hand outs from Venkys. If indeed we want to get promoted then there is one man who would virtually guarantee a play-off spot - Billy Davies. In 5 full Championship seasons he has finished in the play-off places every single time. Its worth noting that was with Preston, Derby and Forest - none of whom have spent any money - which makes his achievements all the more remarkable. Its a strange one why he's been unemployed for 18 months since being harshly sacked by Forest, but it does appear he's a bit of a loudmouth who isn't afraid to criticse his bosses every week in the media. I would put good money on us getting promoted THIS SEASON if Davies was given the job in the next week. It should be a no-brainer. I'd prefer Davies to Hughes or Curbishley when you consider his record at this level. If we're happy to plod along in mid-table with the likes of Burnley then there's no harm in taking a gamble and keeping Bowyer here longer term. I am very pleased that he's got the team playing much better than they were, but people suggesting he be given the job full time must have been living under a rock the last 2 years. It's an unnecessary risk to take when there are people out there who have achieved success over 10 years rather than 5 days. jack01
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1:59pm Wed 2 Jan 13

tkrypton says...

Too much ageism showing here. I don't know why Robinson was dropped for starters: he's still keeping us in games with some fine stops.
Danny Murphy's a good player still.
Many of the ones I would offload are under 30, I will name them along with the ones over 30 that just don't get the job done: Colin Kazim; Goodwillie; Nuno Gomes; Goulon; Etuhu; Pedersen; Marcus Olsson; Dunn;

If we sold all those and bought in two good defenders and two midfielders, that would provide some competition for places for the sometimes complacent Scott Dann. Once best is fit, there's four or five to choose from up front.
Too much ageism showing here. I don't know why Robinson was dropped for starters: he's still keeping us in games with some fine stops. Danny Murphy's a good player still. Many of the ones I would offload are under 30, I will name them along with the ones over 30 that just don't get the job done: Colin Kazim; Goodwillie; Nuno Gomes; Goulon; Etuhu; Pedersen; Marcus Olsson; Dunn; If we sold all those and bought in two good defenders and two midfielders, that would provide some competition for places for the sometimes complacent Scott Dann. Once best is fit, there's four or five to choose from up front. tkrypton
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2:01pm Wed 2 Jan 13

bburnrover says...

The facts are we need an experienced manager because he will have that all essential nouse in the transfer market which is essential to our club and he should have a tactical acumen which is also vital., Bowyer has done an excellent job but so did Tony Parkes on a number of occasions but Tony wasnt a manager for the long term was he?
I think if Hughes doesnt want it Curbishley or Glen Hoddle would be ideal.
The facts are we need an experienced manager because he will have that all essential nouse in the transfer market which is essential to our club and he should have a tactical acumen which is also vital., Bowyer has done an excellent job but so did Tony Parkes on a number of occasions but Tony wasnt a manager for the long term was he? I think if Hughes doesnt want it Curbishley or Glen Hoddle would be ideal. bburnrover
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2:08pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Is Eckersley playing? says...

Sky Sports news just now. 'Bowyer has ruled himself out of permanent managers job' Thats put the cat amongst the pigeons! No-one expected that. Shows he has no faith in the toss pots. Back to square one.
Sky Sports news just now. 'Bowyer has ruled himself out of permanent managers job' Thats put the cat amongst the pigeons! No-one expected that. Shows he has no faith in the toss pots. Back to square one. Is Eckersley playing?
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2:14pm Wed 2 Jan 13

bburnrover says...

We are living in a fantasy world if we realistically think we can offload our recent big contract signings like Murphy. Etuhu, Dunn and Pederson who else could afford their wages?

Kean allowed Shebby to take on these signings but it now looks certain that we would be much better off with some young skillful players in midfield as none of those high earners have the legs to cope with sides like Cardiff who definately have the correct blend to get automatic promotion.I feel Lowe hasnt got enough skill yet so it is important that we try to bring somepne in to drive our midfield.
We are living in a fantasy world if we realistically think we can offload our recent big contract signings like Murphy. Etuhu, Dunn and Pederson who else could afford their wages? Kean allowed Shebby to take on these signings but it now looks certain that we would be much better off with some young skillful players in midfield as none of those high earners have the legs to cope with sides like Cardiff who definately have the correct blend to get automatic promotion.I feel Lowe hasnt got enough skill yet so it is important that we try to bring somepne in to drive our midfield. bburnrover
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2:14pm Wed 2 Jan 13

juanbbien says...

Isn't it time that Hennings photo and the opinion poll was removed
Isn't it time that Hennings photo and the opinion poll was removed juanbbien
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2:20pm Wed 2 Jan 13

fishcake 75 says...

i cannot believe some of the comments on this post; venkys for once have done the right thing,they have clearly ignored the advice of singh who said he had told them his preferred options,would you have really been happy with peter taylor a man who as managed 15clubs and been sacked at most of them or a nearly man like billy davies?, are you the same people who wanted kieth hill who as now been sacked by barnsley or simon grayson who surely is on the brink at huddersfield,lets wait until we get the right candidates for te job,having been ignored by the owners singh should do the right thing and resign, with him gone i am sure the applications would come in thick and fast meanwhile give gary bowyer the support he clearly as earned by running one of the most successful academies in the country.
i cannot believe some of the comments on this post; venkys for once have done the right thing,they have clearly ignored the advice of singh who said he had told them his preferred options,would you have really been happy with peter taylor a man who as managed 15clubs and been sacked at most of them or a nearly man like billy davies?, are you the same people who wanted kieth hill who as now been sacked by barnsley or simon grayson who surely is on the brink at huddersfield,lets wait until we get the right candidates for te job,having been ignored by the owners singh should do the right thing and resign, with him gone i am sure the applications would come in thick and fast meanwhile give gary bowyer the support he clearly as earned by running one of the most successful academies in the country. fishcake 75
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3:10pm Wed 2 Jan 13

George.White.Bread says...

walshy2866 wrote:
Harwoodstblue wrote:
8 Ball Deluxe wrote:
Howe2win wrote:
Unbelievable you Rovers Fans! You win 2 games after just 1 in 10 and you still moan. Maybe the problem with Rovers is not the owners, nor Kean or Berg, nor Shebby or Shaw. Maybe, just maybe, it's the fans!
Spot on.
Come on 8 ball what have you been drinking ?

So it isn't Venkys fault, it wasn't Keans fault and it isn't Singhs fault.
It's all the fans fault is it ?
Who's fault was it when the dingles came within half an hour of becoming non-league then? Only 2000 turned up for most games that season. Rats and sinking ships spring to mind.
We might have discovered our hard core support level now is 12,000 to 14,000 but at least they give a f**k,hence keep voicing their opinion.
The average dingle just takes what's thrown at them and conveniently eradicates it from their mind, whilst being more interested in Rovers than their own tin-pot club.
You carry on boys because we're laughing at you clowns & your beloved club just as much. Interestingly , the ones I speak to have accepted brick layer is leaving , but such is their lack of brain power, they think their owners are doing what's right. A "well run club" is one of their favourites. If a well run club is happy to plod on with no ambition and their support is happy to see that happen while the owners keep filling their own pockets, that says a lot about them. Simple beyond belief doesn't come close!
Happy New year balshy walshy2866!

It doesn't take much to whip you up does it? You're a proper nibbler aren't you?

As has been pointed out to you on many previous occasions you need to stop focussing on the past and look at what's happening now. Did you get some anger management sessions for Christmas? I hope they work because you're such an angry fellow!
[quote][p][bold]walshy2866[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harwoodstblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]8 Ball Deluxe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Howe2win[/bold] wrote: Unbelievable you Rovers Fans! You win 2 games after just 1 in 10 and you still moan. Maybe the problem with Rovers is not the owners, nor Kean or Berg, nor Shebby or Shaw. Maybe, just maybe, it's the fans![/p][/quote]Spot on.[/p][/quote]Come on 8 ball what have you been drinking ? So it isn't Venkys fault, it wasn't Keans fault and it isn't Singhs fault. It's all the fans fault is it ?[/p][/quote]Who's fault was it when the dingles came within half an hour of becoming non-league then? Only 2000 turned up for most games that season. Rats and sinking ships spring to mind. We might have discovered our hard core support level now is 12,000 to 14,000 but at least they give a f**k,hence keep voicing their opinion. The average dingle just takes what's thrown at them and conveniently eradicates it from their mind, whilst being more interested in Rovers than their own tin-pot club. You carry on boys because we're laughing at you clowns & your beloved club just as much. Interestingly , the ones I speak to have accepted brick layer is leaving , but such is their lack of brain power, they think their owners are doing what's right. A "well run club" is one of their favourites. If a well run club is happy to plod on with no ambition and their support is happy to see that happen while the owners keep filling their own pockets, that says a lot about them. Simple beyond belief doesn't come close![/p][/quote]Happy New year balshy walshy2866! It doesn't take much to whip you up does it? You're a proper nibbler aren't you? As has been pointed out to you on many previous occasions you need to stop focussing on the past and look at what's happening now. Did you get some anger management sessions for Christmas? I hope they work because you're such an angry fellow! George.White.Bread
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3:13pm Wed 2 Jan 13

barryinthailand says...

5 points from a play off spot and a game in hand......really

I suppose we are 5 points behind Watford and have a game in hand on ermmm Leicester for example, Cryer you certainly know your stuff.
5 points from a play off spot and a game in hand......really I suppose we are 5 points behind Watford and have a game in hand on ermmm Leicester for example, Cryer you certainly know your stuff. barryinthailand
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3:31pm Wed 2 Jan 13

merlinrabbit says...

Is Eckersley playing? wrote:
Sky Sports news just now. 'Bowyer has ruled himself out of permanent managers job' Thats put the cat amongst the pigeons! No-one expected that. Shows he has no faith in the toss pots. Back to square one.
Thats not news. He ruled himself out yesterday on radio rovers after the game. When asked if he wanted the job he said he couldnt go through another 90 mins like he had just.
[quote][p][bold]Is Eckersley playing?[/bold] wrote: Sky Sports news just now. 'Bowyer has ruled himself out of permanent managers job' Thats put the cat amongst the pigeons! No-one expected that. Shows he has no faith in the toss pots. Back to square one.[/p][/quote]Thats not news. He ruled himself out yesterday on radio rovers after the game. When asked if he wanted the job he said he couldnt go through another 90 mins like he had just. merlinrabbit
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3:36pm Wed 2 Jan 13

ghost of sceptic says...

MxMave wrote:
Rovers fans are starting to annoy me. Sat at the match yesterday, CKR gets man of the match after having a DREADFUL game which include 1 shot on target that went in the net. CKR must have lost 97% of the balls played into him. EVERY single move in the first half broke down with him, and yet he gets man of the match because he scored a goal? Then on my way home from Ewood, Mohammed from Blackburn rings up radio Lancs and says "Bowyer should be given the job" after scraping 2 results together. HAVE WE LEARNT NOTHING!?
spot on mate i am bemused by the calls for Bowyer to get the job. It seems its not just venkys who have not learnt from past apointments half the rovers fans on hear have learnt nothing. you can bet if in the next game we get deafeated they will be saying Bowyer is not the man for the job We wat a manager not a coach.
[quote][p][bold]MxMave[/bold] wrote: Rovers fans are starting to annoy me. Sat at the match yesterday, CKR gets man of the match after having a DREADFUL game which include 1 shot on target that went in the net. CKR must have lost 97% of the balls played into him. EVERY single move in the first half broke down with him, and yet he gets man of the match because he scored a goal? Then on my way home from Ewood, Mohammed from Blackburn rings up radio Lancs and says "Bowyer should be given the job" after scraping 2 results together. HAVE WE LEARNT NOTHING!?[/p][/quote]spot on mate i am bemused by the calls for Bowyer to get the job. It seems its not just venkys who have not learnt from past apointments half the rovers fans on hear have learnt nothing. you can bet if in the next game we get deafeated they will be saying Bowyer is not the man for the job We wat a manager not a coach. ghost of sceptic
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3:37pm Wed 2 Jan 13

merlinrabbit says...

chickenfarm wrote:
Howe2win wrote: Unbelievable you Rovers Fans! You win 2 games after just 1 in 10 and you still moan. Maybe the problem with Rovers is not the owners, nor Kean or Berg, nor Shebby or Shaw. Maybe, just maybe, it's the fans!
Too true it is the fans. When the fans think their have a right to be in the Premiership you deserve nothing. Small club with very narrow minded fans
im glad youve said that. iv always thought that about Burnley fans after their one season in the premiership but its so refreshing for a Burnley fan to admit their faults.
[quote][p][bold]chickenfarm[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Howe2win[/bold] wrote: Unbelievable you Rovers Fans! You win 2 games after just 1 in 10 and you still moan. Maybe the problem with Rovers is not the owners, nor Kean or Berg, nor Shebby or Shaw. Maybe, just maybe, it's the fans![/p][/quote]Too true it is the fans. When the fans think their have a right to be in the Premiership you deserve nothing. Small club with very narrow minded fans[/p][/quote]im glad youve said that. iv always thought that about Burnley fans after their one season in the premiership but its so refreshing for a Burnley fan to admit their faults. merlinrabbit
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3:46pm Wed 2 Jan 13

moh says...

Is Eckersley playing? wrote:
Sky Sports news just now. 'Bowyer has ruled himself out of permanent managers job' Thats put the cat amongst the pigeons! No-one expected that. Shows he has no faith in the toss pots. Back to square one.
Bowyer knows you need a very thick skin to become a rovers manager, a couple of defeats and some fans will call the manager all names under the sky. very sensible decision Bowyer.
[quote][p][bold]Is Eckersley playing?[/bold] wrote: Sky Sports news just now. 'Bowyer has ruled himself out of permanent managers job' Thats put the cat amongst the pigeons! No-one expected that. Shows he has no faith in the toss pots. Back to square one.[/p][/quote]Bowyer knows you need a very thick skin to become a rovers manager, a couple of defeats and some fans will call the manager all names under the sky. very sensible decision Bowyer. moh
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3:46pm Wed 2 Jan 13

MxMave says...

ghost of sceptic wrote:
MxMave wrote:
Rovers fans are starting to annoy me. Sat at the match yesterday, CKR gets man of the match after having a DREADFUL game which include 1 shot on target that went in the net. CKR must have lost 97% of the balls played into him. EVERY single move in the first half broke down with him, and yet he gets man of the match because he scored a goal? Then on my way home from Ewood, Mohammed from Blackburn rings up radio Lancs and says "Bowyer should be given the job" after scraping 2 results together. HAVE WE LEARNT NOTHING!?
spot on mate i am bemused by the calls for Bowyer to get the job. It seems its not just venkys who have not learnt from past apointments half the rovers fans on hear have learnt nothing. you can bet if in the next game we get deafeated they will be saying Bowyer is not the man for the job We wat a manager not a coach.
Its a matter of time until he looses a game. We could have easily thrown away the Barnsley game but for them having to go down to 10 men due to injury and vs Forrest at half time, you couldn't pick a winner. Nothings changed, we just got the run of the ball and one helluva striker upfront.
For me the next manager must have high level experience. What happened to Schuster and Clemente? They were all over the application forms last time around according to Shebby and now we look to Phil Taylor? Somewhere someones not telling the truth.
[quote][p][bold]ghost of sceptic[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MxMave[/bold] wrote: Rovers fans are starting to annoy me. Sat at the match yesterday, CKR gets man of the match after having a DREADFUL game which include 1 shot on target that went in the net. CKR must have lost 97% of the balls played into him. EVERY single move in the first half broke down with him, and yet he gets man of the match because he scored a goal? Then on my way home from Ewood, Mohammed from Blackburn rings up radio Lancs and says "Bowyer should be given the job" after scraping 2 results together. HAVE WE LEARNT NOTHING!?[/p][/quote]spot on mate i am bemused by the calls for Bowyer to get the job. It seems its not just venkys who have not learnt from past apointments half the rovers fans on hear have learnt nothing. you can bet if in the next game we get deafeated they will be saying Bowyer is not the man for the job We wat a manager not a coach.[/p][/quote]Its a matter of time until he looses a game. We could have easily thrown away the Barnsley game but for them having to go down to 10 men due to injury and vs Forrest at half time, you couldn't pick a winner. Nothings changed, we just got the run of the ball and one helluva striker upfront. For me the next manager must have high level experience. What happened to Schuster and Clemente? They were all over the application forms last time around according to Shebby and now we look to Phil Taylor? Somewhere someones not telling the truth. MxMave
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3:47pm Wed 2 Jan 13

merlinrabbit says...

I was at the game yesterday. Im pleased we have finally picked up two wins. The first half of yesterdays game however was very poor, I was surprised as I expected Forest to be better but Iv come to the conclusion that bar from the strong teams at the top, the others are much of a muchness. Those round me complained it was like watching a game down pleasington on sunday morning. I was pleased for Bowyer and his colleagues but those two wins havent convinced me that Gary Bowyer is the man to take us forward and it appears he doesnt want to be the man anyway. Those players are capable of beating Barnsley and winning a home game planning amongst themselves if they are given the freedom to do it. Reading some of the comments from fans that think two wins is good enough criteria to gain a manager job reminds me of stuff I used to read about Kean in the early days. Do you remember when he got a win over Liverpool who had decided they werent playing for Hodgson? Everybody was hailing Kean then and talking about his style of football and he should be given a chance and look what that brought us. I agree with some on here that rovers fans havent learned what has been a very painful lesson. I will be interested to read comments if Bowyer loses the next two games. Win 1 in 10 and you get sacked. Win 2 in 2 and you get a job. Is that how it should be? In my job, if you have a plan you stick to it of sorts. You dont keep changing your plan at each event or incident. You have a plan and follow it through because you are supposed to have confidence that you know what you are doing. This lot clearly dont. Shebby's plan is to drop a few suggestions and see what the fan reaction is then change his mind again. As everybody has said though, I would be furious if Taylor got the job and less than satisfied if Davis did and if they are the only candidates, then no change would be a better option.
I was at the game yesterday. Im pleased we have finally picked up two wins. The first half of yesterdays game however was very poor, I was surprised as I expected Forest to be better but Iv come to the conclusion that bar from the strong teams at the top, the others are much of a muchness. Those round me complained it was like watching a game down pleasington on sunday morning. I was pleased for Bowyer and his colleagues but those two wins havent convinced me that Gary Bowyer is the man to take us forward and it appears he doesnt want to be the man anyway. Those players are capable of beating Barnsley and winning a home game planning amongst themselves if they are given the freedom to do it. Reading some of the comments from fans that think two wins is good enough criteria to gain a manager job reminds me of stuff I used to read about Kean in the early days. Do you remember when he got a win over Liverpool who had decided they werent playing for Hodgson? Everybody was hailing Kean then and talking about his style of football and he should be given a chance and look what that brought us. I agree with some on here that rovers fans havent learned what has been a very painful lesson. I will be interested to read comments if Bowyer loses the next two games. Win 1 in 10 and you get sacked. Win 2 in 2 and you get a job. Is that how it should be? In my job, if you have a plan you stick to it of sorts. You dont keep changing your plan at each event or incident. You have a plan and follow it through because you are supposed to have confidence that you know what you are doing. This lot clearly dont. Shebby's plan is to drop a few suggestions and see what the fan reaction is then change his mind again. As everybody has said though, I would be furious if Taylor got the job and less than satisfied if Davis did and if they are the only candidates, then no change would be a better option. merlinrabbit
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3:48pm Wed 2 Jan 13

MxMave says...

moh wrote:
Is Eckersley playing? wrote:
Sky Sports news just now. 'Bowyer has ruled himself out of permanent managers job' Thats put the cat amongst the pigeons! No-one expected that. Shows he has no faith in the toss pots. Back to square one.
Bowyer knows you need a very thick skin to become a rovers manager, a couple of defeats and some fans will call the manager all names under the sky. very sensible decision Bowyer.
That news broke after yesterdays game, some SS reporter must have asked him in the post-match. Why would Bowyer want to throw away a perfectly good job? If i was employed by Rovers i'd keep my head down and avoid promotion at all costs!
[quote][p][bold]moh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Is Eckersley playing?[/bold] wrote: Sky Sports news just now. 'Bowyer has ruled himself out of permanent managers job' Thats put the cat amongst the pigeons! No-one expected that. Shows he has no faith in the toss pots. Back to square one.[/p][/quote]Bowyer knows you need a very thick skin to become a rovers manager, a couple of defeats and some fans will call the manager all names under the sky. very sensible decision Bowyer.[/p][/quote]That news broke after yesterdays game, some SS reporter must have asked him in the post-match. Why would Bowyer want to throw away a perfectly good job? If i was employed by Rovers i'd keep my head down and avoid promotion at all costs! MxMave
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3:50pm Wed 2 Jan 13

merlinrabbit says...

MxMave wrote:
moh wrote:
Is Eckersley playing? wrote: Sky Sports news just now. 'Bowyer has ruled himself out of permanent managers job' Thats put the cat amongst the pigeons! No-one expected that. Shows he has no faith in the toss pots. Back to square one.
Bowyer knows you need a very thick skin to become a rovers manager, a couple of defeats and some fans will call the manager all names under the sky. very sensible decision Bowyer.
That news broke after yesterdays game, some SS reporter must have asked him in the post-match. Why would Bowyer want to throw away a perfectly good job? If i was employed by Rovers i'd keep my head down and avoid promotion at all costs!
It was Radio Rovers interview after the game.
[quote][p][bold]MxMave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]moh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Is Eckersley playing?[/bold] wrote: Sky Sports news just now. 'Bowyer has ruled himself out of permanent managers job' Thats put the cat amongst the pigeons! No-one expected that. Shows he has no faith in the toss pots. Back to square one.[/p][/quote]Bowyer knows you need a very thick skin to become a rovers manager, a couple of defeats and some fans will call the manager all names under the sky. very sensible decision Bowyer.[/p][/quote]That news broke after yesterdays game, some SS reporter must have asked him in the post-match. Why would Bowyer want to throw away a perfectly good job? If i was employed by Rovers i'd keep my head down and avoid promotion at all costs![/p][/quote]It was Radio Rovers interview after the game. merlinrabbit
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3:53pm Wed 2 Jan 13

A Darener says...

What the fans have got to realise is that Berg and Bowyer have had mostly Kean's players to work with. To actually get two wins on the trot is a minor miracle, long may it continue. There is no reason why it can't be three wins on the bounce. That will work wonders for morale. Don't need a new manager, just need a bit of luck.
What the fans have got to realise is that Berg and Bowyer have had mostly Kean's players to work with. To actually get two wins on the trot is a minor miracle, long may it continue. There is no reason why it can't be three wins on the bounce. That will work wonders for morale. Don't need a new manager, just need a bit of luck. A Darener
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4:04pm Wed 2 Jan 13

noddymcleod says...

OK, here's the plot. Shabby has admitted that he'd love to manage/coach here but hasn't got the qualifications. He's not going to slog through the coaching badges, why bother. Shabby is in charge of transfer policy but that will be ruled by Pune accountants, so he'll enjoy wheeling-dealing and being the centre of attention, it's much more fun than punditry in Malaysia. He'll try to offload high earners by freezing them out as Kean did - the standard coward's tactic.
As to Bowyer, he'll be coaching and shouting from the touchline but taking orders from Shabby who will continue to select the team. Enjoy it while it lasts, Gary.
Every game without paying for a manager is cash in the bank for Venkys.
My forecast is that Gary will be "given a chance" till the end of the season, which in reality gives Shabby a chance till the end of the season. If Rovers don't make it, Venkys and Shabby will go.
I've said before the best option for Rovers is that we survive, then Venkys also pull out. If, what a big if, we went up, we'd do a Burnley but Shabb's would have a glory year in the Premiership.
If we went down, and that's still possible, Venkys and Shabby would go and we'd have to rebuild from Div 1.
Survival is the watchword and I am grateful that 6 points against poor teams make that a bit more likely.
OK, here's the plot. Shabby has admitted that he'd love to manage/coach here but hasn't got the qualifications. He's not going to slog through the coaching badges, why bother. Shabby is in charge of transfer policy but that will be ruled by Pune accountants, so he'll enjoy wheeling-dealing and being the centre of attention, it's much more fun than punditry in Malaysia. He'll try to offload high earners by freezing them out as Kean did - the standard coward's tactic. As to Bowyer, he'll be coaching and shouting from the touchline but taking orders from Shabby who will continue to select the team. Enjoy it while it lasts, Gary. Every game without paying for a manager is cash in the bank for Venkys. My forecast is that Gary will be "given a chance" till the end of the season, which in reality gives Shabby a chance till the end of the season. If Rovers don't make it, Venkys and Shabby will go. I've said before the best option for Rovers is that we survive, then Venkys also pull out. If, what a big if, we went up, we'd do a Burnley but Shabb's would have a glory year in the Premiership. If we went down, and that's still possible, Venkys and Shabby would go and we'd have to rebuild from Div 1. Survival is the watchword and I am grateful that 6 points against poor teams make that a bit more likely. noddymcleod
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4:08pm Wed 2 Jan 13

A Darener says...

noddymcleod wrote:
OK, here's the plot. Shabby has admitted that he'd love to manage/coach here but hasn't got the qualifications. He's not going to slog through the coaching badges, why bother. Shabby is in charge of transfer policy but that will be ruled by Pune accountants, so he'll enjoy wheeling-dealing and being the centre of attention, it's much more fun than punditry in Malaysia. He'll try to offload high earners by freezing them out as Kean did - the standard coward's tactic.
As to Bowyer, he'll be coaching and shouting from the touchline but taking orders from Shabby who will continue to select the team. Enjoy it while it lasts, Gary.
Every game without paying for a manager is cash in the bank for Venkys.
My forecast is that Gary will be "given a chance" till the end of the season, which in reality gives Shabby a chance till the end of the season. If Rovers don't make it, Venkys and Shabby will go.
I've said before the best option for Rovers is that we survive, then Venkys also pull out. If, what a big if, we went up, we'd do a Burnley but Shabb's would have a glory year in the Premiership.
If we went down, and that's still possible, Venkys and Shabby would go and we'd have to rebuild from Div 1.
Survival is the watchword and I am grateful that 6 points against poor teams make that a bit more likely.
Nicely put. Have to agree. Shebby has played a shabby trick. But the up side is no Kean the down side. Shebby in charge, without any responsibility for it all going pear shaped.
[quote][p][bold]noddymcleod[/bold] wrote: OK, here's the plot. Shabby has admitted that he'd love to manage/coach here but hasn't got the qualifications. He's not going to slog through the coaching badges, why bother. Shabby is in charge of transfer policy but that will be ruled by Pune accountants, so he'll enjoy wheeling-dealing and being the centre of attention, it's much more fun than punditry in Malaysia. He'll try to offload high earners by freezing them out as Kean did - the standard coward's tactic. As to Bowyer, he'll be coaching and shouting from the touchline but taking orders from Shabby who will continue to select the team. Enjoy it while it lasts, Gary. Every game without paying for a manager is cash in the bank for Venkys. My forecast is that Gary will be "given a chance" till the end of the season, which in reality gives Shabby a chance till the end of the season. If Rovers don't make it, Venkys and Shabby will go. I've said before the best option for Rovers is that we survive, then Venkys also pull out. If, what a big if, we went up, we'd do a Burnley but Shabb's would have a glory year in the Premiership. If we went down, and that's still possible, Venkys and Shabby would go and we'd have to rebuild from Div 1. Survival is the watchword and I am grateful that 6 points against poor teams make that a bit more likely.[/p][/quote]Nicely put. Have to agree. Shebby has played a shabby trick. But the up side is no Kean the down side. Shebby in charge, without any responsibility for it all going pear shaped. A Darener
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4:16pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Racing Rover says...

cboyer wrote:
i honestly dont understand why everybody wanting hughes? he left a decent team in rovers and has done nothing since even after spending loads
And alledgedly wasn't universally loved at Ewood as his communication skills were crap, but certainly appeared to perform better when he was kept on a tight rein financially.
[quote][p][bold]cboyer[/bold] wrote: i honestly dont understand why everybody wanting hughes? he left a decent team in rovers and has done nothing since even after spending loads[/p][/quote]And alledgedly wasn't universally loved at Ewood as his communication skills were crap, but certainly appeared to perform better when he was kept on a tight rein financially. Racing Rover
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4:20pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Iiii1111 says...

One of the regimes better decision
(&not many of those)....can anyone guarantee that a ''name' would get results if they came in!....names Hughes and Rednapp haven't turned QPR around.....like others have said if GB can work with the regime and be successful, why not?....sometimes the one in the background could be a star....Mourinho with Robson
One of the regimes better decision (¬ many of those)....can anyone guarantee that a ''name' would get results if they came in!....names Hughes and Rednapp haven't turned QPR around.....like others have said if GB can work with the regime and be successful, why not?....sometimes the one in the background could be a star....Mourinho with Robson Iiii1111
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4:22pm Wed 2 Jan 13

eddio says...

cruzy_cruz wrote:
Bowyer is just what Venkys love. Cheap and a kopout when it comes to havng to make a decision. Bowyer should NEVER be in contention irrespective of whether he beats the bottom of the league, a forest in crisis and a poor Bristol 2nd XI
and why not, pray tell? Why do we HAVE to have a 'big-name' manager? Look at sparky's abject recent performances at 'bigger' clubs than Rovers? Everyone has to start their career as a novice, how do you KNOW that Bowyer isn't capable of becoming a great manager, Oh Wise One? Try being a bit more charitable to a good servant of the club, he has a far better record than any of our recent incumbents, after all?
[quote][p][bold]cruzy_cruz[/bold] wrote: Bowyer is just what Venkys love. Cheap and a kopout when it comes to havng to make a decision. Bowyer should NEVER be in contention irrespective of whether he beats the bottom of the league, a forest in crisis and a poor Bristol 2nd XI[/p][/quote]and why not, pray tell? Why do we HAVE to have a 'big-name' manager? Look at sparky's abject recent performances at 'bigger' clubs than Rovers? Everyone has to start their career as a novice, how do you KNOW that Bowyer isn't capable of becoming a great manager, Oh Wise One? Try being a bit more charitable to a good servant of the club, he has a far better record than any of our recent incumbents, after all? eddio
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4:31pm Wed 2 Jan 13

greenscreener says...

merlinrabbit wrote:
MxMave wrote:
moh wrote:
Is Eckersley playing? wrote: Sky Sports news just now. 'Bowyer has ruled himself out of permanent managers job' Thats put the cat amongst the pigeons! No-one expected that. Shows he has no faith in the toss pots. Back to square one.
Bowyer knows you need a very thick skin to become a rovers manager, a couple of defeats and some fans will call the manager all names under the sky. very sensible decision Bowyer.
That news broke after yesterdays game, some SS reporter must have asked him in the post-match. Why would Bowyer want to throw away a perfectly good job? If i was employed by Rovers i'd keep my head down and avoid promotion at all costs!
It was Radio Rovers interview after the game.
And the first line in my post match opinion on this site yesterday, do keep up boys !
[quote][p][bold]merlinrabbit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MxMave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]moh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Is Eckersley playing?[/bold] wrote: Sky Sports news just now. 'Bowyer has ruled himself out of permanent managers job' Thats put the cat amongst the pigeons! No-one expected that. Shows he has no faith in the toss pots. Back to square one.[/p][/quote]Bowyer knows you need a very thick skin to become a rovers manager, a couple of defeats and some fans will call the manager all names under the sky. very sensible decision Bowyer.[/p][/quote]That news broke after yesterdays game, some SS reporter must have asked him in the post-match. Why would Bowyer want to throw away a perfectly good job? If i was employed by Rovers i'd keep my head down and avoid promotion at all costs![/p][/quote]It was Radio Rovers interview after the game.[/p][/quote]And the first line in my post match opinion on this site yesterday, do keep up boys ! greenscreener
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5:07pm Wed 2 Jan 13

owd nick says...

blueblooded wrote:
Howe2win wrote:
Unbelievable you Rovers Fans! You win 2 games after just 1 in 10 and you still moan. Maybe the problem with Rovers is not the owners, nor Kean or Berg, nor Shebby or Shaw. Maybe, just maybe, it's the fans!
Some people are never happy.

If Venly's get us promoted, they will moan that we should have never got relegated in the first place. If we made it to Champions league football, they would probably moan its two years too late.

But if we get relegated to division one, they'll smugly tell you, they did tell you so.

Glass always half empty some people, that's just they way they are.

Its a difficult decision to make, Bowyer has the dressing room and the players are playing better football because of it. Do you upset the apple cart and rush someone in or do you risk the transfer window but wait and make the CORRECT decision?

Those calling this a cheapo way of avoiding spending money have no idea of business obviously. The wage bill alone should tell you they don't welch out on paying out - whether you believe its their own money or not, not forgetting the ridiculous wage of one Global Advisor alone.

I highly doubt at this critical juncture, Venky's are thinking about how to save money, rather how to get out of this mess and turn things around. Rumour has it, Shebby isnt flavour of the month at the moment with the 606 interview causing huge embarrassment where it matters to Venky's, this itself could be a reason for the delay, it certainly seems that the appointment is to be a Venkys choice and not Shebby one - or else McDonald would already have been announced yesterday surely?

Also for those who question Bowyer as a contender, how many matches would he have to consecutively win for you to change your mind, or is his lack of experience to be his his achilles heel regardless of performances?

Take your time and get it right Venky's - its the right thing to do.
Good post, too many on here are either dingles in disguise or living in the past.

Talking of which a certain Mr Parkes did a great job for us several times as caretaker, I stress the word several because previous owners and regimes failed to get it right more often than not.

Several times.

If they had got it right all the time we wouldn't be in this mess we would be up there with the Man U's, City and Chelsea's, and clowns like Venky's wouldn't be able to afford us.

Also I have Sky Sports News on at present and Bowyer has quite clearly stated he is happy to act as caretaker but doesn't want the job permanently.

Why should he? The only certain thing about taking over as a manager at any football club is if you have a bad run of results you get sacked.

Just like Tony Parkes he is better off as a respected coach and caretaker ready to step in when needed.
[quote][p][bold]blueblooded[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Howe2win[/bold] wrote: Unbelievable you Rovers Fans! You win 2 games after just 1 in 10 and you still moan. Maybe the problem with Rovers is not the owners, nor Kean or Berg, nor Shebby or Shaw. Maybe, just maybe, it's the fans![/p][/quote]Some people are never happy. If Venly's get us promoted, they will moan that we should have never got relegated in the first place. If we made it to Champions league football, they would probably moan its two years too late. But if we get relegated to division one, they'll smugly tell you, they did tell you so. Glass always half empty some people, that's just they way they are. Its a difficult decision to make, Bowyer has the dressing room and the players are playing better football because of it. Do you upset the apple cart and rush someone in or do you risk the transfer window but wait and make the CORRECT decision? Those calling this a cheapo way of avoiding spending money have no idea of business obviously. The wage bill alone should tell you they don't welch out on paying out - whether you believe its their own money or not, not forgetting the ridiculous wage of one Global Advisor alone. I highly doubt at this critical juncture, Venky's are thinking about how to save money, rather how to get out of this mess and turn things around. Rumour has it, Shebby isnt flavour of the month at the moment with the 606 interview causing huge embarrassment where it matters to Venky's, this itself could be a reason for the delay, it certainly seems that the appointment is to be a Venkys choice and not Shebby one - or else McDonald would already have been announced yesterday surely? Also for those who question Bowyer as a contender, how many matches would he have to consecutively win for you to change your mind, or is his lack of experience to be his his achilles heel regardless of performances? Take your time and get it right Venky's - its the right thing to do.[/p][/quote]Good post, too many on here are either dingles in disguise or living in the past. Talking of which a certain Mr Parkes did a great job for us several times as caretaker, I stress the word several because previous owners and regimes failed to get it right more often than not. Several times. If they had got it right all the time we wouldn't be in this mess we would be up there with the Man U's, City and Chelsea's, and clowns like Venky's wouldn't be able to afford us. Also I have Sky Sports News on at present and Bowyer has quite clearly stated he is happy to act as caretaker but doesn't want the job permanently. Why should he? The only certain thing about taking over as a manager at any football club is if you have a bad run of results you get sacked. Just like Tony Parkes he is better off as a respected coach and caretaker ready to step in when needed. owd nick
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5:18pm Wed 2 Jan 13

jim 2012 says...

Tom F. wrote:
Steve Kean IN!
Boooooboys OUT!
time t shut it now and move on
[quote][p][bold]Tom F.[/bold] wrote: Steve Kean IN! Boooooboys OUT![/p][/quote]time t shut it now and move on jim 2012
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5:22pm Wed 2 Jan 13

BRFC75 says...

If THEY (Shebby and his Mafia) give Bowyer the job as manager ,the job Bowyer publicly he stated he does not want , because he knows if he was made manager the team are simply not got enough quality,they are a team of old guys getting older / southern europeans that are good players when they are in the mood ! not enough balls and thunder , let Bowyer keep his job that he is good at and has done very,very well at,why give this good man a poisened chalice.

NO,why spoil Bowyers life !

Why not make the granny swindler Hendry the manager ,does anyone know what he actually does anyway at Rovers since Steve Kean left , who is the person Hendry picks up in the Rovers black Merc. drives him to the pub and then the bookies and back these days for his 8,000 quid a week.

Or was Hendry chauffering Steve Kean around part of Kean`s payout agreement from Rovers.
If THEY (Shebby and his Mafia) give Bowyer the job as manager ,the job Bowyer publicly he stated he does not want , because he knows if he was made manager the team are simply not got enough quality,they are a team of old guys getting older / southern europeans that are good players when they are in the mood ! not enough balls and thunder , let Bowyer keep his job that he is good at and has done very,very well at,why give this good man a poisened chalice. NO,why spoil Bowyers life ! Why not make the granny swindler Hendry the manager ,does anyone know what he actually does anyway at Rovers since Steve Kean left , who is the person Hendry picks up in the Rovers black Merc. drives him to the pub and then the bookies and back these days for his 8,000 quid a week. Or was Hendry chauffering Steve Kean around part of Kean`s payout agreement from Rovers. BRFC75
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5:34pm Wed 2 Jan 13

jim 2012 says...

Howe2win wrote:
Unbelievable you Rovers Fans! You win 2 games after just 1 in 10 and you still moan. Maybe the problem with Rovers is not the owners, nor Kean or Berg, nor Shebby or Shaw. Maybe, just maybe, it's the fans!
yes we are Unbelievable us rovers fans
[quote][p][bold]Howe2win[/bold] wrote: Unbelievable you Rovers Fans! You win 2 games after just 1 in 10 and you still moan. Maybe the problem with Rovers is not the owners, nor Kean or Berg, nor Shebby or Shaw. Maybe, just maybe, it's the fans![/p][/quote]yes we are Unbelievable us rovers fans jim 2012
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5:40pm Wed 2 Jan 13

old man rover says...

Peter Taylor is 60 tomorrow. They can hardly claim they are appointing him for his potential so look at his record (on Wikipedia). Less than a 40% win rate almost no premier league experience. What is his secret ingredient that he - a bloke who hasn't appeared on the radar of any other clubs appointing managers recently - should storm to being bookiies' favourite? Ve-e-ery peculiar.
Peter Taylor is 60 tomorrow. They can hardly claim they are appointing him for his potential so look at his record (on Wikipedia). Less than a 40% win rate almost no premier league experience. What is his secret ingredient that he - a bloke who hasn't appeared on the radar of any other clubs appointing managers recently - should storm to being bookiies' favourite? Ve-e-ery peculiar. old man rover
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5:42pm Wed 2 Jan 13

leitchy says...

Venkys sitting on the fence because they do not know who to trust.....

Shebby the snake or Shaw/Agnew

Taxi 4 Shebby....
Venkys sitting on the fence because they do not know who to trust..... Shebby the snake or Shaw/Agnew Taxi 4 Shebby.... leitchy
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6:07pm Wed 2 Jan 13

srvp28 says...

A Darener wrote:
What the fans have got to realise is that Berg and Bowyer have had mostly Kean's players to work with. To actually get two wins on the trot is a minor miracle, long may it continue. There is no reason why it can't be three wins on the bounce. That will work wonders for morale. Don't need a new manager, just need a bit of luck.
Only five of the fourteen players that featured yesterday could be classed as Kean's signings. Looking at the squad as a whole, less than ten of the thirty-five players are Kean signings.

The whole 'Steve Kean's players' theory is without basis.
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: What the fans have got to realise is that Berg and Bowyer have had mostly Kean's players to work with. To actually get two wins on the trot is a minor miracle, long may it continue. There is no reason why it can't be three wins on the bounce. That will work wonders for morale. Don't need a new manager, just need a bit of luck.[/p][/quote]Only five of the fourteen players that featured yesterday could be classed as Kean's signings. Looking at the squad as a whole, less than ten of the thirty-five players are Kean signings. The whole 'Steve Kean's players' theory is without basis. srvp28
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6:19pm Wed 2 Jan 13

A Darener says...

srvp28 wrote:
A Darener wrote:
What the fans have got to realise is that Berg and Bowyer have had mostly Kean's players to work with. To actually get two wins on the trot is a minor miracle, long may it continue. There is no reason why it can't be three wins on the bounce. That will work wonders for morale. Don't need a new manager, just need a bit of luck.
Only five of the fourteen players that featured yesterday could be classed as Kean's signings. Looking at the squad as a whole, less than ten of the thirty-five players are Kean signings.

The whole 'Steve Kean's players' theory is without basis.
He didn't just sign players, he trained them ALL. As he knew less than me about football or so it appeared he instilled a sense of failure in them. Now he has gone the players realise they are not as bad as he made them and slowly but surely they are improving.
[quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: What the fans have got to realise is that Berg and Bowyer have had mostly Kean's players to work with. To actually get two wins on the trot is a minor miracle, long may it continue. There is no reason why it can't be three wins on the bounce. That will work wonders for morale. Don't need a new manager, just need a bit of luck.[/p][/quote]Only five of the fourteen players that featured yesterday could be classed as Kean's signings. Looking at the squad as a whole, less than ten of the thirty-five players are Kean signings. The whole 'Steve Kean's players' theory is without basis.[/p][/quote]He didn't just sign players, he trained them ALL. As he knew less than me about football or so it appeared he instilled a sense of failure in them. Now he has gone the players realise they are not as bad as he made them and slowly but surely they are improving. A Darener
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6:25pm Wed 2 Jan 13

hasslem hasslem says...

shabby on radio lancs tonight

king signing - "no more in on transfer window"

transfers out - "no planned out, unless they break down my door"

manager search - "looking for a manager on a 6 month contract with an option to extend subject to targets being met"

has taylor rumour come from india? has he met with balaji rao? - "rumours come from anywhere all over the world....blah blah blah" in answer to further probing "taylor has not met balaji rao" - don't believe him for a minute

will bowyer be offered a 6 month contract? "no, we respect him too much"

how far off are you from appointing a manager? "don't want to be drawn on it"

colin hendry role? "assistant coach for u-21 and still has a long term contract"

david dunn nowhere to be seen "recurring calf injury, medical staff cannot solve it"

shaw and agnew, why did they go to india? "no comment"

who is in charge agnew, shaw or you - "it is me"

what utter tosh again
shabby on radio lancs tonight king signing - "no more in on transfer window" transfers out - "no planned out, unless they break down my door" manager search - "looking for a manager on a 6 month contract with an option to extend subject to targets being met" has taylor rumour come from india? has he met with balaji rao? - "rumours come from anywhere all over the world....blah blah blah" in answer to further probing "taylor has not met balaji rao" - don't believe him for a minute will bowyer be offered a 6 month contract? "no, we respect him too much" how far off are you from appointing a manager? "don't want to be drawn on it" colin hendry role? "assistant coach for u-21 and still has a long term contract" david dunn nowhere to be seen "recurring calf injury, medical staff cannot solve it" shaw and agnew, why did they go to india? "no comment" who is in charge agnew, shaw or you - "it is me" what utter tosh again hasslem hasslem
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6:46pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Road Runner Road Runner says...

Common sense prevails.

Those questioning Bowyer need to give their head a shake !

Our club desperately needs stability if not for the long term with this, but the absolute here and now.

Venky have got this right for once advised by, well, let us say results, and are we not in a results based business ?

The astute, proven manager we all crave for is a dead duck in the water for various reasons that are well and truly highlighted on pages such as these.

I wish for nothing more than BRFC performing to a standard that I have become accustomed to, and that being competitive - whether that is a success or failure is open to the 90 minutes of play ?

Bowyer will have his limits just as any manager who comes in would, but Bowyer has grabbed this situation by the scruff of the neck installed the belief and desire for these players to perform to the best of their training abilities resulting in two wins - 6 for 1 against.

This move in retaining Bowyer is one of the better choices made by our bungling owners as I'm sure this will create stability for the foreseeable future which we all crave for - isn't it ?

Far to many folk's have their own agenda over these matters down at the good ship Ewood rather than seeing what is practical, in my estimation ?

I would never question the loyalty or the intrinsic link of any supporter for our beloved, but I would question the wisdom of some.

Neither do I profess to have the correct solution in my opinion, but at the heart of the matter is seeing something that is worth embracing for the most important element in all of this, and that is the B&W shirt adorned by a crest that supersedes all. I support that in any situation, and these back to back wins are worthy of positive support regardless of the supposed blithe blowing through the corridors of Ewood Park ?

Bowyer as shat in the face of adversity such is his belief in the squad to go out and perform to the level and standard that they have been lauded for since our relegation.

I go into Saturdays game with renewed optimism regardless of the opposition.The plight of the club is there for all to see, but out on the pitch at this time I would say it is worth seeing and supporting under the guy who as appeared to revive some dignity for our beleaguered club and, again I say, shatting in the face of adversity.

Keep on keeping on Mr Bowyer and Co

Common sense as prevailed here whether you loathe Venky and Co or not.

Just a thought folk's ?

Arte et labore
Common sense prevails. Those questioning Bowyer need to give their head a shake ! Our club desperately needs stability if not for the long term with this, but the absolute here and now. Venky have got this right for once advised by, well, let us say results, and are we not in a results based business ? The astute, proven manager we all crave for is a dead duck in the water for various reasons that are well and truly highlighted on pages such as these. I wish for nothing more than BRFC performing to a standard that I have become accustomed to, and that being competitive - whether that is a success or failure is open to the 90 minutes of play ? Bowyer will have his limits just as any manager who comes in would, but Bowyer has grabbed this situation by the scruff of the neck installed the belief and desire for these players to perform to the best of their training abilities resulting in two wins - 6 for 1 against. This move in retaining Bowyer is one of the better choices made by our bungling owners as I'm sure this will create stability for the foreseeable future which we all crave for - isn't it ? Far to many folk's have their own agenda over these matters down at the good ship Ewood rather than seeing what is practical, in my estimation ? I would never question the loyalty or the intrinsic link of any supporter for our beloved, but I would question the wisdom of some. Neither do I profess to have the correct solution in my opinion, but at the heart of the matter is seeing something that is worth embracing for the most important element in all of this, and that is the B&W shirt adorned by a crest that supersedes all. I support that in any situation, and these back to back wins are worthy of positive support regardless of the supposed blithe blowing through the corridors of Ewood Park ? Bowyer as shat in the face of adversity such is his belief in the squad to go out and perform to the level and standard that they have been lauded for since our relegation. I go into Saturdays game with renewed optimism regardless of the opposition.The plight of the club is there for all to see, but out on the pitch at this time I would say it is worth seeing and supporting under the guy who as appeared to revive some dignity for our beleaguered club and, again I say, shatting in the face of adversity. Keep on keeping on Mr Bowyer and Co Common sense as prevailed here whether you loathe Venky and Co or not. Just a thought folk's ? Arte et labore Road Runner Road Runner
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9:49pm Wed 2 Jan 13

srvp28 says...

A Darener wrote:
srvp28 wrote:
A Darener wrote:
What the fans have got to realise is that Berg and Bowyer have had mostly Kean's players to work with. To actually get two wins on the trot is a minor miracle, long may it continue. There is no reason why it can't be three wins on the bounce. That will work wonders for morale. Don't need a new manager, just need a bit of luck.
Only five of the fourteen players that featured yesterday could be classed as Kean's signings. Looking at the squad as a whole, less than ten of the thirty-five players are Kean signings.

The whole 'Steve Kean's players' theory is without basis.
He didn't just sign players, he trained them ALL. As he knew less than me about football or so it appeared he instilled a sense of failure in them. Now he has gone the players realise they are not as bad as he made them and slowly but surely they are improving.
Well they played okay for Eric Black and he was on the same training ground as both Kean and Berg. As for installing a sense of failure in them, Kean thought he was God's gift to coaching so I don't buy into that. We got relegated because we were tactically poor and unfit.
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: What the fans have got to realise is that Berg and Bowyer have had mostly Kean's players to work with. To actually get two wins on the trot is a minor miracle, long may it continue. There is no reason why it can't be three wins on the bounce. That will work wonders for morale. Don't need a new manager, just need a bit of luck.[/p][/quote]Only five of the fourteen players that featured yesterday could be classed as Kean's signings. Looking at the squad as a whole, less than ten of the thirty-five players are Kean signings. The whole 'Steve Kean's players' theory is without basis.[/p][/quote]He didn't just sign players, he trained them ALL. As he knew less than me about football or so it appeared he instilled a sense of failure in them. Now he has gone the players realise they are not as bad as he made them and slowly but surely they are improving.[/p][/quote]Well they played okay for Eric Black and he was on the same training ground as both Kean and Berg. As for installing a sense of failure in them, Kean thought he was God's gift to coaching so I don't buy into that. We got relegated because we were tactically poor and unfit. srvp28
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10:52pm Wed 2 Jan 13

fireonthemountain says...

Sorry guys , but nothing has changed .

Years ago - approx 2001 - life was not good for me , and I worked for an agency . Let's face it , if you have no income , you take what you can get !!

Me . one of my kiddywinks and his mate did a non-stop-40-odd-hour
-job .

Interestingly enough , there were actually approx 100 of us - mostly Chinese students .

We got paid £300 each , cash in hand . Fine by us .

What did we do ?

Started off working at the M.E.N arena - literally from 7pm til 6am .
Treated well - no probs - food , rests , non-alchoholic drinks , all free.

Then - off to Liverpool - Anfield - by coach ,(3 coaches) serving pies and such to the spectators - help yourself .

Then back to Old Trafford -wow- that was one of the most enjoyable experiences of my life ! - again serving pies and such from a very high up gantry . We only had to serve while game was NOT on - we were allowed to watch the game - what a vantage point ! I remember tucking into a pie while watching David Beckham and co , thinking to myself , I can't believe I'm being paid for this !!

Next day - we coached to Blackburn Rovers . No food . Nothing to drink - not even water . No breaks . Utterly forbidden to have a smoke break . nor to use the toilets . I am not making this up . Then...find your own way home .

We all refused to work for Rovers again .
Sorry guys , but nothing has changed . Years ago - approx 2001 - life was not good for me , and I worked for an agency . Let's face it , if you have no income , you take what you can get !! Me . one of my kiddywinks and his mate did a non-stop-40-odd-hour -job . Interestingly enough , there were actually approx 100 of us - mostly Chinese students . We got paid £300 each , cash in hand . Fine by us . What did we do ? Started off working at the M.E.N arena - literally from 7pm til 6am . Treated well - no probs - food , rests , non-alchoholic drinks , all free. Then - off to Liverpool - Anfield - by coach ,(3 coaches) serving pies and such to the spectators - help yourself . Then back to Old Trafford -wow- that was one of the most enjoyable experiences of my life ! - again serving pies and such from a very high up gantry . We only had to serve while game was NOT on - we were allowed to watch the game - what a vantage point ! I remember tucking into a pie while watching David Beckham and co , thinking to myself , I can't believe I'm being paid for this !! Next day - we coached to Blackburn Rovers . No food . Nothing to drink - not even water . No breaks . Utterly forbidden to have a smoke break . nor to use the toilets . I am not making this up . Then...find your own way home . We all refused to work for Rovers again . fireonthemountain
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11:01pm Wed 2 Jan 13

fireonthemountain says...

I forgot to mention -

We were not allowed to watch the Rovers match !!

Moral of the story ?

Treat people well and they will work for you , to the best of their abilities.

Treat people like dirt.....guess what !?
I forgot to mention - We were not allowed to watch the Rovers match !! Moral of the story ? Treat people well and they will work for you , to the best of their abilities. Treat people like dirt.....guess what !? fireonthemountain
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11:23pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Nurseman says...

Six goals for and one against in two games....GREAT!

It would be madness to take away current management team Gary B and Terry M at this time.
For me, this is not about the Venkys. The fact is that so far the guys (our guys) have got the results and the whole team seem motivated. It can't get any better than that.
I do feel cynical toward the Venkys BUT I am not going to let it cloud my judgement.
We have a winning formulae, its not broke so don't fix it
Six goals for and one against in two games....GREAT! It would be madness to take away current management team Gary B and Terry M at this time. For me, this is not about the Venkys. The fact is that so far the guys (our guys) have got the results and the whole team seem motivated. It can't get any better than that. I do feel cynical toward the Venkys BUT I am not going to let it cloud my judgement. We have a winning formulae, its not broke so don't fix it Nurseman
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8:23am Thu 3 Jan 13

A Darener says...

Shebby is the mouthpiece of the Venky's. every time he opens it he puts his foot in it. The venky's are not used to having their business done n public. That is the nature of the beast of football. They are used to conducting all their business in private. And by God! How it shows. Until they learn to involve the fans, their customers, they will never do anything right.
Shebby is the mouthpiece of the Venky's. every time he opens it he puts his foot in it. The venky's are not used to having their business done n public. That is the nature of the beast of football. They are used to conducting all their business in private. And by God! How it shows. Until they learn to involve the fans, their customers, they will never do anything right. A Darener
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9:36am Thu 3 Jan 13

Justjes says...

And yes we all know the plan, don't we....

Venkys thinking wow Bowyers a good manager, do you want the job???
And yes we all know the plan, don't we.... Venkys thinking wow Bowyers a good manager, do you want the job??? Justjes
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9:39am Thu 3 Jan 13

Tom F. says...

srvp28 wrote:
A Darener wrote:
srvp28 wrote:
A Darener wrote:
What the fans have got to realise is that Berg and Bowyer have had mostly Kean's players to work with. To actually get two wins on the trot is a minor miracle, long may it continue. There is no reason why it can't be three wins on the bounce. That will work wonders for morale. Don't need a new manager, just need a bit of luck.
Only five of the fourteen players that featured yesterday could be classed as Kean's signings. Looking at the squad as a whole, less than ten of the thirty-five players are Kean signings.

The whole 'Steve Kean's players' theory is without basis.
He didn't just sign players, he trained them ALL. As he knew less than me about football or so it appeared he instilled a sense of failure in them. Now he has gone the players realise they are not as bad as he made them and slowly but surely they are improving.
Well they played okay for Eric Black and he was on the same training ground as both Kean and Berg. As for installing a sense of failure in them, Kean thought he was God's gift to coaching so I don't buy into that. We got relegated because we were tactically poor and unfit.
Putting aside all Ur hate and abuse vs Keano,.......u brainless boooooooboys have to accept that these are SKs Men!!!
The Players always played for him!
[quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]srvp28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: What the fans have got to realise is that Berg and Bowyer have had mostly Kean's players to work with. To actually get two wins on the trot is a minor miracle, long may it continue. There is no reason why it can't be three wins on the bounce. That will work wonders for morale. Don't need a new manager, just need a bit of luck.[/p][/quote]Only five of the fourteen players that featured yesterday could be classed as Kean's signings. Looking at the squad as a whole, less than ten of the thirty-five players are Kean signings. The whole 'Steve Kean's players' theory is without basis.[/p][/quote]He didn't just sign players, he trained them ALL. As he knew less than me about football or so it appeared he instilled a sense of failure in them. Now he has gone the players realise they are not as bad as he made them and slowly but surely they are improving.[/p][/quote]Well they played okay for Eric Black and he was on the same training ground as both Kean and Berg. As for installing a sense of failure in them, Kean thought he was God's gift to coaching so I don't buy into that. We got relegated because we were tactically poor and unfit.[/p][/quote]Putting aside all Ur hate and abuse vs Keano,.......u brainless boooooooboys have to accept that these are SKs Men!!! The Players always played for him! Tom F.
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