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Rovers in crisis talks in India
7:00am Saturday 29th December 2012 in Sport
By Andy Cryer, Blackburn Rovers reporter
BLACKBURN Rovers directors Paul Agnew and Derek Shaw were last night holding crisis talks with Venky’s in India as the club put any coaching appointments on hold.
Operations director Agnew and managing director Shaw flew out to Pune yesterday and are voicing their concerns about a range of issues at Rovers, including the role of global advisor Shebby Singh, as well as pleading for the appointment of an experienced manager.
Rovers sacked boss Henning Berg and his backroom staff on Thursday after only 57 days in charge and were set to appoint Kevin MacDonald and Judan Ali as coaches yesterday.
But adverse reaction from fans, together with the ongoing meetings in India, have made the club delay any appointments.
Reserve team coaches Gary Bowyer and Colin Hendry took training yesterday, together with senior strength and conditioning coach Chris Rush, and it will be Bowyer who takes charge for today’s Championship fixture at Barnsley.
MacDonald and Ali are now waiting for the outcome of Agnew and Shaw’s discussions with Venky’s.
Agnew yesterday told the Lancashire Telegraph that they were both keen to hold talks with Rovers’ owners about the direction of the club.
He said: “We are very concerned about the situation and there are a lot of issues that need addressing with immediate effect.”
Sources in India, however, suggested that Venky’s had called the meeting and that the duo’s own positions at the club could be in doubt.
They met the owners last night and are scheduled to hold more talks this morning before flying back to England.
The duo’s visit to India meant they missed the club’s annual general meeting yesterday morning, when Robert Coar and Karen Silk were the only directors present.
Singh was also absent, instead spending the day at Brockhall where he met with the playing squad as well as with Ali, who has been at the club recently shadowing the coaching staff and has been lined up for a role at Rovers.
Singh also held talks with MacDonald on Thursday and both coaches are now waiting for confirmation that the club will go ahead with their appointments, after they were temporarily put on hold.
It is believed that the role discussed for former Aston Villa caretaker boss MacDonald was as head coach, with suggestions that he would be given the chance to stake his claim for the manager’s job while the search for Berg’s replacement is ongoing.
Rovers are also understood to be interested in bringing Jordan Rhodes’ father Andy as goalkeeping coach. The 48-year-old is currently working in a similar role at Sheffield Wednesday.
Bobby Mimms left his job as Rovers’ goalkeeping coach on Thursday and said yesterday: “I’d like to thank the fans for their magnificent support during my time at the club.
“I have great memories of the football club and I hope they get their rightful place back in the Premier League as soon as possible.”
Academy coaches Terry McPhillips and Tony Grant are due to assist Bowyer and Hendry with the first team at Barnsley today.
MacDonald remains the bookmakers’ favourite for the manager’s job on a permanent basis, with current player Nuno Gomes still among those under consideration.
In addition, Rovers are receiving applications for the vacancy with ex-Hull boss Phil Brown yesterday confirmed that he had sent the club his CV. Former Atletico Madrid manager Gregorio Manzano is also among those interested in the job.
And Singh yesterday denied reports that co-owner Balaji Rao had already decided on the club’s new boss.
“I can safely say that is not true, I have been on the phone with him,” Singh said.
Rovers’ global advisor also confirmed that Ali had not been appointed by the club, even though he was at Brockhall yesterday.
“He’s a guest of the club, there have been no appointments,” Singh said.
“We’ve got capable people, this club is well run. Gary Bowyer has been reserve team and under 21 manager for two years, he has been at the club for eight years.
“It’s been business as usual.”
About Berg’s exit, he said: "I don't regret getting Henning here. My only regret is that it didn't work out the way we would have liked it to.”
Asked if he would now opt for a more experienced boss, Singh added: "It all depends how you term experience.”
Venky’s have made one signing though with Balaji Rao yesterday holding a press conference with Ronaldinho in India to confirm that the Brazilian superstar has joined his company Bala Entertainment and will feature in an animation film.
Ronaldinho was a target for Rovers shortly after the poultry company’s arrival at Ewood Park, but the current partnership is unrelated to the football club.
Comments(93)
Dan11
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7:25am Sat 29 Dec 12
They were employed as Yes men and not even they can sit down and shut up any longer, as we are now in full blown free fall. The fact that comical Ali is around the club, no doubt at the wishes of Singh, makes Singh's position untennable.
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It is obvious what we need. To chop Shabby Singh and appoint an experienced manager.However, that is not what the crackpot, tinpot Venkys want to hear is it!
philmoulden
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7:35am Sat 29 Dec 12
The sooner we do a Rangers the better .No one knows whats happening , singh talking to venkys ,venkys talking to shaw , NO one talking to the fans as usual .Total mess
I really cant wait to for administration to come . Our club needs cleansing of the filth that runs it .
Norman T Wangler
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7:39am Sat 29 Dec 12
singh is a muppet
ali is a chancer 'innit'
mullan is a star struck self-appointed nomark nobody.
Brfc24138931
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7:42am Sat 29 Dec 12
1952 rover
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7:43am Sat 29 Dec 12
Norman T Wangler
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7:44am Sat 29 Dec 12
the feelings are that high about this clown.
and judan ali needs to sray down south where he belongs.
HE IS NOT WELCOME HERE. FACT.
Bangkok Rover
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7:56am Sat 29 Dec 12
And why get rid of Berg before you have the replacement lined up? Just when we hoped they would start to do things professionally. It's so ridiculous that I might just start believing in some of those conspiracy theories soon!
If Shaw and Agnew aren't allowed to do their jobs then we really have no chance at all.
Shebby out!
Miss-You-Uncle-Jack
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7:57am Sat 29 Dec 12
golazzo
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7:58am Sat 29 Dec 12
Captain Dreckley
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7:59am Sat 29 Dec 12
Iiii1111
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8:07am Sat 29 Dec 12
Norman T Wangler
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8:11am Sat 29 Dec 12
Duni Akwe Tu?
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8:18am Sat 29 Dec 12
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cloggyjimmybrfc
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8:18am Sat 29 Dec 12
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.join the mass boycott pag....enough is enough
greenscreener
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8:19am Sat 29 Dec 12
"Is this football club doing anything right ?"
The only positive sign I could find was that we appear to have finlly introduced our Senior Strength and Conditioning coach to the first team.
The-Jerome-and-Steve-Show
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8:21am Sat 29 Dec 12
AGNEW is the real problem, he was around from day 1 with all the Venkys Kean and Jerome involvement. He has sat quietly in the shadows gaining promotion after promotion and is now a director. He declared war on the clubs supporters. Who was it that upset Berg at the Christmas Party??? Singh had left, leaving Agnew and Shaw. Now one of these was responsible in my opinion. Then the story was leaked into the press within 24 hours, who has such media contacts?
Whilst there is elements of team Kean still around there will still be unrest in the corridors of power.
Captain Dreckley
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8:21am Sat 29 Dec 12
Norman T Wangler wrote:This isn't the way we do things in Blackburn. You may recall a group of supporters 8 miles down the motorway threatening a family member of the then manager to get him out. When we sink to that level it will be time to give up. Your comments will be taken and used in the same way it was with Kean the victim and those terrible Rovers fans to blame. Here the press will see Singh as the victim receiving threats from those same terrible Rovers fans. You should work for a PR company (if you don't already).
i would imagine that blackburn is now a very dangerous place for shebby singh and judan ali. there are a lot of very angry people out there. my advice would be dont ever set foot in this town again. it only takes one crackpot eh?
1952 rover
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8:24am Sat 29 Dec 12
Ewood say that!
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8:37am Sat 29 Dec 12
Norman T Wangler
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8:48am Sat 29 Dec 12
Captain Dreckley wrote:im not threatening anyone. i just believe that should either of them bump into fans, especially if alcohol is involved, then they could well be in danger. feelings are running higher now than at any time i believe. would i hit them? no. im no direct action person myself. but many are. even in blackburn. and to deny this as a possibility is silly. anger is at fever pitch now. and its my opinion that anything can happen in these circumstances. it happens the world over. you could say we dont riot in britain. we are too civilised surely. but check your history and we clearly do.
Norman T Wangler wrote:This isn't the way we do things in Blackburn. You may recall a group of supporters 8 miles down the motorway threatening a family member of the then manager to get him out. When we sink to that level it will be time to give up. Your comments will be taken and used in the same way it was with Kean the victim and those terrible Rovers fans to blame. Here the press will see Singh as the victim receiving threats from those same terrible Rovers fans. You should work for a PR company (if you don't already).
i would imagine that blackburn is now a very dangerous place for shebby singh and judan ali. there are a lot of very angry people out there. my advice would be dont ever set foot in this town again. it only takes one crackpot eh?
Norman T Wangler
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8:50am Sat 29 Dec 12
Norman T Wangler wrote:and one more point... if you dont velieve me go to barnsley today and imagine shebby or judan ali standing in our end. are you telling me they would be safe?
Captain Dreckley wrote:im not threatening anyone. i just believe that should either of them bump into fans, especially if alcohol is involved, then they could well be in danger. feelings are running higher now than at any time i believe. would i hit them? no. im no direct action person myself. but many are. even in blackburn. and to deny this as a possibility is silly. anger is at fever pitch now. and its my opinion that anything can happen in these circumstances. it happens the world over. you could say we dont riot in britain. we are too civilised surely. but check your history and we clearly do.
Norman T Wangler wrote:This isn't the way we do things in Blackburn. You may recall a group of supporters 8 miles down the motorway threatening a family member of the then manager to get him out. When we sink to that level it will be time to give up. Your comments will be taken and used in the same way it was with Kean the victim and those terrible Rovers fans to blame. Here the press will see Singh as the victim receiving threats from those same terrible Rovers fans. You should work for a PR company (if you don't already).
i would imagine that blackburn is now a very dangerous place for shebby singh and judan ali. there are a lot of very angry people out there. my advice would be dont ever set foot in this town again. it only takes one crackpot eh?
Dublin rover
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9:01am Sat 29 Dec 12
Dannybhoy
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9:11am Sat 29 Dec 12
I posted on Rovers facebook page against appointing MacDonald and Ali only for them to remove my post - it would appear that the truth hurts.
greenscreener
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9:13am Sat 29 Dec 12
Norman T Wangler wrote:Norman, I think the point is that what little power the fans have lies in our ability to highlight and expose the real issues. Inflamatory talk that focusses on abuse and potential violence only dilutes the strength of our position and can be used to belittle us in the sensationalist media.
Norman T Wangler wrote:and one more point... if you dont velieve me go to barnsley today and imagine shebby or judan ali standing in our end. are you telling me they would be safe?
Captain Dreckley wrote:im not threatening anyone. i just believe that should either of them bump into fans, especially if alcohol is involved, then they could well be in danger. feelings are running higher now than at any time i believe. would i hit them? no. im no direct action person myself. but many are. even in blackburn. and to deny this as a possibility is silly. anger is at fever pitch now. and its my opinion that anything can happen in these circumstances. it happens the world over. you could say we dont riot in britain. we are too civilised surely. but check your history and we clearly do.
Norman T Wangler wrote:This isn't the way we do things in Blackburn. You may recall a group of supporters 8 miles down the motorway threatening a family member of the then manager to get him out. When we sink to that level it will be time to give up. Your comments will be taken and used in the same way it was with Kean the victim and those terrible Rovers fans to blame. Here the press will see Singh as the victim receiving threats from those same terrible Rovers fans. You should work for a PR company (if you don't already).
i would imagine that blackburn is now a very dangerous place for shebby singh and judan ali. there are a lot of very angry people out there. my advice would be dont ever set foot in this town again. it only takes one crackpot eh?
You personally may not condone violence but when you opened up this moning with 'i hope you all die' you didn't exactly present yourself as a reasonable and placid bloke.
makaveli96
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9:28am Sat 29 Dec 12
Is it to early for a pint!
Sod it! Postal Order hear I come!
Nelsonblue
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9:38am Sat 29 Dec 12
RIP BRFC.
Duni Akwe Tu?
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9:41am Sat 29 Dec 12
t.com/news/sport/ali
-6-1-to-become-next-
rovers-boss/1177642/
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greenscreener
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9:41am Sat 29 Dec 12
makaveli96 wrote:Hey Makaveli, there are all kinds of people from outside Blackburn drinking in the Postal, you would be much happier in the Brownhill Arms.
Only Balaji Rao can save the club now!!
Is it to early for a pint!
Sod it! Postal Order hear I come!
moh
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10:00am Sat 29 Dec 12
Bangkok Rover wrote:Shaw and Agnew are Keans men, who is advising them??
Really gets more bizarre by the day. Why on earth are they looking to bring in coaching staff before the manager??? That tells us immediately we won't get a serious manager as most want to bring in their own people.
And why get rid of Berg before you have the replacement lined up? Just when we hoped they would start to do things professionally. It's so ridiculous that I might just start believing in some of those conspiracy theories soon!
If Shaw and Agnew aren't allowed to do their jobs then we really have no chance at all.
Shebby out!
YarkshahRover
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10:02am Sat 29 Dec 12
makaveli96 wrote:They don't serve beer that's brewed in Blackburn.
Only Balaji Rao can save the club now!!
Is it to early for a pint!
Sod it! Postal Order hear I come!
Dan11
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10:04am Sat 29 Dec 12
Captain Dreckley wrote:We have already been down this road, and the answer from the authorities was that the fit and proper person test only applies to a perspective owner when taking over a club. Once someone owns a club they can effectively run the club as incompetently as they want and the FA and the government is powerless to intervene. The best that we can do is to force the Venkys to sell, because until they sell the club we will continue to be in free-fall.
At what point do the footballing authorities step in and say enough is enough. Venkys prove day in and day out they are not fit and proper owners and now public in fighting between Shaw and Singh heaps even more shame on the club, more evidence that the owners are failing to run the club in a fit and proper way. When Kean was manager we had Jack Straw as MP as well as local government political figures calling for action, where are they now as the club is in absolute chaos? We, as football supporters are being badly let down by the football governing bodies and others who could influence things for the better. Obviously they don't give a **** or we would see some intervention. I will certainly be going to Jack Straws next surgery and would urge other Rovers fans to attend and ask Jack what he can do to support his constituents
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I pray for the day when the Venkys have been run out of town and we have new owners.
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The Walkers trust should hang there heads in shame. Anyone with a half a brain cell could have seen that a bunch of Indian chicken farmers would make terrible owners of an English professional football club, but all they were interested in doing was cashing out. They showed ZERO interest in Jacks legacy and this is where we are, in freefall and facing bankrupcy and oblivion!
moh
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10:04am Sat 29 Dec 12
The-Jerome-and-Stevekean has left but looks like the power struggle still goes on. Who is advising Agnew??
-Show wrote:
Shebby Singh is a bit of a Joker, but quite harmless in my opinion.
AGNEW is the real problem, he was around from day 1 with all the Venkys Kean and Jerome involvement. He has sat quietly in the shadows gaining promotion after promotion and is now a director. He declared war on the clubs supporters. Who was it that upset Berg at the Christmas Party??? Singh had left, leaving Agnew and Shaw. Now one of these was responsible in my opinion. Then the story was leaked into the press within 24 hours, who has such media contacts?
Whilst there is elements of team Kean still around there will still be unrest in the corridors of power.
OnePostThenTheOther
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10:06am Sat 29 Dec 12
The thought that Singh might actually believe the sh!t that comes out of his own mouth made a little bit of sick come up into mine.
lightamatch catcharabbit
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10:08am Sat 29 Dec 12
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Hovis1945
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10:09am Sat 29 Dec 12
Norman T Wangler
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10:09am Sat 29 Dec 12
greenscreener wrote:i dont think im alone there. and the media can write what they want. and they will. dont let the truth get in the way of a good story! and in the rare instances where crooks such as these do get a comeupance, i dont shed a tear. did you cry when ian huntley got whacked in prison? i didnt. i didnt celebrate either but i think he deserved it. they often deserve it. but it wont be me ruining my life by lamping them. but i suspect someone might if they find themselves in the wrong situation.
Norman T Wangler wrote:Norman, I think the point is that what little power the fans have lies in our ability to highlight and expose the real issues. Inflamatory talk that focusses on abuse and potential violence only dilutes the strength of our position and can be used to belittle us in the sensationalist media.
Norman T Wangler wrote:and one more point... if you dont velieve me go to barnsley today and imagine shebby or judan ali standing in our end. are you telling me they would be safe?
Captain Dreckley wrote:im not threatening anyone. i just believe that should either of them bump into fans, especially if alcohol is involved, then they could well be in danger. feelings are running higher now than at any time i believe. would i hit them? no. im no direct action person myself. but many are. even in blackburn. and to deny this as a possibility is silly. anger is at fever pitch now. and its my opinion that anything can happen in these circumstances. it happens the world over. you could say we dont riot in britain. we are too civilised surely. but check your history and we clearly do.
Norman T Wangler wrote:This isn't the way we do things in Blackburn. You may recall a group of supporters 8 miles down the motorway threatening a family member of the then manager to get him out. When we sink to that level it will be time to give up. Your comments will be taken and used in the same way it was with Kean the victim and those terrible Rovers fans to blame. Here the press will see Singh as the victim receiving threats from those same terrible Rovers fans. You should work for a PR company (if you don't already).
i would imagine that blackburn is now a very dangerous place for shebby singh and judan ali. there are a lot of very angry people out there. my advice would be dont ever set foot in this town again. it only takes one crackpot eh?
You personally may not condone violence but when you opened up this moning with 'i hope you all die' you didn't exactly present yourself as a reasonable and placid bloke.
Riverside 7
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10:14am Sat 29 Dec 12
Bangkok Rover wrote:Good post Bangkok Rover.
Really gets more bizarre by the day. Why on earth are they looking to bring in coaching staff before the manager??? That tells us immediately we won't get a serious manager as most want to bring in their own people.
And why get rid of Berg before you have the replacement lined up? Just when we hoped they would start to do things professionally. It's so ridiculous that I might just start believing in some of those conspiracy theories soon!
If Shaw and Agnew aren't allowed to do their jobs then we really have no chance at all.
Shebby out!
Contrast this with Nottingham Forest.
They sack O'Driscoll but had McLeish lined up
Also why did Singh give Berg a 3 year contract in the first place when he publicly said that his only target was promotion.
Surely it would made made more sense to appoint Berg until the end of the season.
Now the club will have to pay up his contract as well as the Black's, Brunskill & Mimms.
Its a shambles.
Well it will interesting to see who survives after the meeting in India - Singh or Shaw/Agnew
In my opinion they are all useless.
moh
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10:23am Sat 29 Dec 12
Riverside 7 wrote:get rid of keans appointments and try and bring Williams back.
Bangkok Rover wrote:Good post Bangkok Rover.
Really gets more bizarre by the day. Why on earth are they looking to bring in coaching staff before the manager??? That tells us immediately we won't get a serious manager as most want to bring in their own people.
And why get rid of Berg before you have the replacement lined up? Just when we hoped they would start to do things professionally. It's so ridiculous that I might just start believing in some of those conspiracy theories soon!
If Shaw and Agnew aren't allowed to do their jobs then we really have no chance at all.
Shebby out!
Contrast this with Nottingham Forest.
They sack O'Driscoll but had McLeish lined up
Also why did Singh give Berg a 3 year contract in the first place when he publicly said that his only target was promotion.
Surely it would made made more sense to appoint Berg until the end of the season.
Now the club will have to pay up his contract as well as the Black's, Brunskill & Mimms.
Its a shambles.
Well it will interesting to see who survives after the meeting in India - Singh or Shaw/Agnew
In my opinion they are all useless.
Riverside 7
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10:24am Sat 29 Dec 12
Well, my definition of 'experienced' is someone who has had more than 8 games as a caretaker manager at Aston Villa.
Yes technically he has managed in the Premier League but why would we want to bring in McDonald as the new boss when only 2 weeks ago he was approached about being Berg's assistant.
Crazy!
Roverthere
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10:24am Sat 29 Dec 12
moh
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10:31am Sat 29 Dec 12
Norman T Wangler wrote:We need it to leave it to police if anyone is inciting or threatening violence. Back to football Berg was a risk the club should not have taken. They should have got an experienced manager. come on lads, get us a result today.
greenscreener wrote:i dont think im alone there. and the media can write what they want. and they will. dont let the truth get in the way of a good story! and in the rare instances where crooks such as these do get a comeupance, i dont shed a tear. did you cry when ian huntley got whacked in prison? i didnt. i didnt celebrate either but i think he deserved it. they often deserve it. but it wont be me ruining my life by lamping them. but i suspect someone might if they find themselves in the wrong situation.
Norman T Wangler wrote:Norman, I think the point is that what little power the fans have lies in our ability to highlight and expose the real issues. Inflamatory talk that focusses on abuse and potential violence only dilutes the strength of our position and can be used to belittle us in the sensationalist media.
Norman T Wangler wrote:and one more point... if you dont velieve me go to barnsley today and imagine shebby or judan ali standing in our end. are you telling me they would be safe?
Captain Dreckley wrote:im not threatening anyone. i just believe that should either of them bump into fans, especially if alcohol is involved, then they could well be in danger. feelings are running higher now than at any time i believe. would i hit them? no. im no direct action person myself. but many are. even in blackburn. and to deny this as a possibility is silly. anger is at fever pitch now. and its my opinion that anything can happen in these circumstances. it happens the world over. you could say we dont riot in britain. we are too civilised surely. but check your history and we clearly do.
Norman T Wangler wrote:This isn't the way we do things in Blackburn. You may recall a group of supporters 8 miles down the motorway threatening a family member of the then manager to get him out. When we sink to that level it will be time to give up. Your comments will be taken and used in the same way it was with Kean the victim and those terrible Rovers fans to blame. Here the press will see Singh as the victim receiving threats from those same terrible Rovers fans. You should work for a PR company (if you don't already).
i would imagine that blackburn is now a very dangerous place for shebby singh and judan ali. there are a lot of very angry people out there. my advice would be dont ever set foot in this town again. it only takes one crackpot eh?
You personally may not condone violence but when you opened up this moning with 'i hope you all die' you didn't exactly present yourself as a reasonable and placid bloke.
merlinrabbit
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10:36am Sat 29 Dec 12
Captain Dreckley wrote:Totally agree. Outrageous comments. No wonder we were accused of making death threats. Agnew is as squirmy a worm as Kean and Singh. It's a case of the worms turning on each other. Mrs design is as capable of running a football club as George Bush was of finding Wales on a map. It was their father that built venkys. His kids will probably destroy that too
Norman T Wangler wrote:This isn't the way we do things in Blackburn. You may recall a group of supporters 8 miles down the motorway threatening a family member of the then manager to get him out. When we sink to that level it will be time to give up. Your comments will be taken and used in the same way it was with Kean the victim and those terrible Rovers fans to blame. Here the press will see Singh as the victim receiving threats from those same terrible Rovers fans. You should work for a PR company (if you don't already).
i would imagine that blackburn is now a very dangerous place for shebby singh and judan ali. there are a lot of very angry people out there. my advice would be dont ever set foot in this town again. it only takes one crackpot eh?
merlinrabbit
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10:36am Sat 29 Dec 12
Captain Dreckley wrote:Totally agree. Outrageous comments. No wonder we were accused of making death threats. Agnew is as squirmy a worm as Kean and Singh. It's a case of the worms turning on each other. Mrs design is as capable of running a football club as George Bush was of finding Wales on a map. It was their father that built venkys. His kids will probably destroy that too
Norman T Wangler wrote:This isn't the way we do things in Blackburn. You may recall a group of supporters 8 miles down the motorway threatening a family member of the then manager to get him out. When we sink to that level it will be time to give up. Your comments will be taken and used in the same way it was with Kean the victim and those terrible Rovers fans to blame. Here the press will see Singh as the victim receiving threats from those same terrible Rovers fans. You should work for a PR company (if you don't already).
i would imagine that blackburn is now a very dangerous place for shebby singh and judan ali. there are a lot of very angry people out there. my advice would be dont ever set foot in this town again. it only takes one crackpot eh?
dangerous dave
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10:41am Sat 29 Dec 12
Obviously the best thing that could happen would be for the Venkys to realise they no longer have a future in Blackburn and sell up - if not to safe guard their investment they should appoint some very senior well respected Directors to look after their and our interests instead of allowing the likes of Shaw Agnew Singh and even Coar to carry on running this bloody circus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OUT WITH THE LOT OF THEM
merlinrabbit
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10:47am Sat 29 Dec 12
one more season
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10:51am Sat 29 Dec 12
Shabby Singh and Judan Ali next in line.EVEN BETTER
They really do want an Asian manager with Asian players and Asian owners, may I suggest that they .... off back to India and buy one. DONT GO TO EWOOD AND STARVE THEM OF CASH.
EMBARRASS THEM TO THE WORLD WITH AN EMPTY STADIUM.
THERES NO BUILDING OF OUR CLUB UNTIL THEY'VE GONE AND THEY'LL GO IF THERES NO MONEY.
Daniel81
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10:55am Sat 29 Dec 12
Bazzer
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11:12am Sat 29 Dec 12
77'sss
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11:12am Sat 29 Dec 12
Jack Walkers family sold the club and are still estimated to be worth £500 million
According to Forbes , we also have John Whittaker billionaire ( believed to be a rovers fan )
WEC, Hemingway and quite a few other multi millionaires
All passionate fans ?
Yet just how much has BRIST got in the coffers after 12 months, for our supposed buy out from venkies
In a nutshell there are people out there who could help us out, but they would rather let us become a laughing stock
J.C - Rishton
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11:14am Sat 29 Dec 12
The-Jerome-and-Stevespot on - its just most Rovers fans don't really know whats happened at their own club - thats why they don't understand the scum that AGNEW is.
-Show wrote:
Shebby Singh is a bit of a Joker, but quite harmless in my opinion.
AGNEW is the real problem, he was around from day 1 with all the Venkys Kean and Jerome involvement. He has sat quietly in the shadows gaining promotion after promotion and is now a director. He declared war on the clubs supporters. Who was it that upset Berg at the Christmas Party??? Singh had left, leaving Agnew and Shaw. Now one of these was responsible in my opinion. Then the story was leaked into the press within 24 hours, who has such media contacts?
Whilst there is elements of team Kean still around there will still be unrest in the corridors of power.
Agnew is the sole remaining figure left at Ewood who is bought and paid for by JA.
Agnew was 1 of 3 people who went to India to meet with the Venkys to plot their takeover of the club - 3 months BEFORE Venkys bought Rovers (along with JA and SK).
Agnew was complicit in the plan (at that initial meeting) to get rid of SA, promote SK to 1st team manager and isolate JW, TF and JG and ultimately remove them from their jobs and hence completly unstable the club.
Why - so JA could rule the transfers and make millions from fees and inflated agents charges to 2nd rate players.
Paul Agnew "life-long Rovers fan" - don't make me laugh !!
juanbbien
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11:14am Sat 29 Dec 12
jgb12348
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11:24am Sat 29 Dec 12
Lets start again from scratch with proper intelligent true fooball people. bye bye shabbies and co.
backum
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11:33am Sat 29 Dec 12
Accy Phil
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11:40am Sat 29 Dec 12
Miss-You-Uncle-Jack
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11:41am Sat 29 Dec 12
Riverside 7 wrote:I agree, however as useless Shaw and Agnew may be, I fear they will be sacked and shebby will talk himself into another promotion so he officially controls the club. I hope I'm wrong.
Bangkok Rover wrote:Good post Bangkok Rover.
Really gets more bizarre by the day. Why on earth are they looking to bring in coaching staff before the manager??? That tells us immediately we won't get a serious manager as most want to bring in their own people.
And why get rid of Berg before you have the replacement lined up? Just when we hoped they would start to do things professionally. It's so ridiculous that I might just start believing in some of those conspiracy theories soon!
If Shaw and Agnew aren't allowed to do their jobs then we really have no chance at all.
Shebby out!
Contrast this with Nottingham Forest.
They sack O'Driscoll but had McLeish lined up
Also why did Singh give Berg a 3 year contract in the first place when he publicly said that his only target was promotion.
Surely it would made made more sense to appoint Berg until the end of the season.
Now the club will have to pay up his contract as well as the Black's, Brunskill & Mimms.
Its a shambles.
Well it will interesting to see who survives after the meeting in India - Singh or Shaw/Agnew
In my opinion they are all useless.
gembeli
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11:42am Sat 29 Dec 12
noddymcleod
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11:42am Sat 29 Dec 12
Dukes
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11:47am Sat 29 Dec 12
Dukes
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11:48am Sat 29 Dec 12
IS this to keep Jordan happy he unsettled already at the club.
Harwoodstblue
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11:50am Sat 29 Dec 12
Riverside 7 wrote:Singh obviously doesn't know what experienced means then if he has to ask.
When Shebby was asked yesterday if the club was looking to appoint an experienced manager this time, he apparenty replied 'it depends on what you call experienced'.
Well, my definition of 'experienced' is someone who has had more than 8 games as a caretaker manager at Aston Villa.
Yes technically he has managed in the Premier League but why would we want to bring in McDonald as the new boss when only 2 weeks ago he was approached about being Berg's assistant.
Crazy!
No wonder he can't be taken seriously with statements like that.
Is Eckersley playing?
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11:54am Sat 29 Dec 12
Norman T Wangler
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11:56am Sat 29 Dec 12
moh wrote:i can agree with that mr dreckley. though seeing the team, and rwports re dunn and others divorcing the club, we are really in the mire now. apparently all the portugese are in the squad. my heart aches. but anyway. im off to barnsley. to cheer the team and vent my anger in equal amounts.
Norman T Wangler wrote:We need it to leave it to police if anyone is inciting or threatening violence. Back to football Berg was a risk the club should not have taken. They should have got an experienced manager. come on lads, get us a result today.
greenscreener wrote:i dont think im alone there. and the media can write what they want. and they will. dont let the truth get in the way of a good story! and in the rare instances where crooks such as these do get a comeupance, i dont shed a tear. did you cry when ian huntley got whacked in prison? i didnt. i didnt celebrate either but i think he deserved it. they often deserve it. but it wont be me ruining my life by lamping them. but i suspect someone might if they find themselves in the wrong situation.
Norman T Wangler wrote:Norman, I think the point is that what little power the fans have lies in our ability to highlight and expose the real issues. Inflamatory talk that focusses on abuse and potential violence only dilutes the strength of our position and can be used to belittle us in the sensationalist media.
Norman T Wangler wrote:and one more point... if you dont velieve me go to barnsley today and imagine shebby or judan ali standing in our end. are you telling me they would be safe?
Captain Dreckley wrote:im not threatening anyone. i just believe that should either of them bump into fans, especially if alcohol is involved, then they could well be in danger. feelings are running higher now than at any time i believe. would i hit them? no. im no direct action person myself. but many are. even in blackburn. and to deny this as a possibility is silly. anger is at fever pitch now. and its my opinion that anything can happen in these circumstances. it happens the world over. you could say we dont riot in britain. we are too civilised surely. but check your history and we clearly do.
Norman T Wangler wrote:This isn't the way we do things in Blackburn. You may recall a group of supporters 8 miles down the motorway threatening a family member of the then manager to get him out. When we sink to that level it will be time to give up. Your comments will be taken and used in the same way it was with Kean the victim and those terrible Rovers fans to blame. Here the press will see Singh as the victim receiving threats from those same terrible Rovers fans. You should work for a PR company (if you don't already).
i would imagine that blackburn is now a very dangerous place for shebby singh and judan ali. there are a lot of very angry people out there. my advice would be dont ever set foot in this town again. it only takes one crackpot eh?
You personally may not condone violence but when you opened up this moning with 'i hope you all die' you didn't exactly present yourself as a reasonable and placid bloke.
dorsetblue
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11:57am Sat 29 Dec 12
Shabby should be the one to go plus comical Ali.
Empty ground..no income then Venkys will hopefully shove off and we can rebuild this once proud club.
Harwoodstblue
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11:59am Sat 29 Dec 12
Bazzer wrote:It's the only thing that will make them listen.
The ONLY factor which forced the Bhatti Brothers hands at Wolves was the attendance falling to below 4,000. I believe we are well on the way to that figure.
We all know where we are heading under this lot. What's the point of prolonging it until they've creamed off all the parachute payments.
hasslem hasslem
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12:02pm Sat 29 Dec 12
AGM yesterday and only finance monkey Silk and chipmunk Coar were present – Shaw - CEO?/MD? whatever, Agnew - Operations Director – I know what that usually entails – but have seen no evidence of operations being directed and Shabby Minge – Global Poo-bah! couldn’t be arsed to attend (Shebby showing Comical Ali around.
Failed Hendry brought in a defensive coach – joke and then relegated to assistant coach of the youth team or whatever – now on the touchline again at Oakwell for no explicable reason.
No manager worth his salt would consider managing Blackburn Rovers (copyright Henning 2011) – No manager worth his salt would consider managing Blackburn Rovers (copyright Hasslem Hasslem December 2012).
Berg not told face to face by Minge that he was canned as he had “important visitors from India to show around”. Other coaches told of their fate by news of twitter release first broadcast on Sky Sports News.
Agnew and Shaw flying out to see the loons in Pune to tell them that nobody knows what the f_uck is going on – including themselves. Also trying to get Shabby sacked.
Talk that a manager will be appointed after the Barnsley game being refuted by Minge, who insists that Rovers is well run and there is no rush to appoint a new manager.
Radio 5live having a phone-in on is there a more laughable club in British football than Blackburn Rovers….and instead of being tempted to ring in and tell them to “mind your own chuffing business you London-centric k_nobheads” you nod sagely in agreement and resignation.
Fans at their wits ends, players unfit and directionless, no shirt sponsor, no corporate take up, attendances through the floor, bottom three clearly visible in rear view mirror. National joke.
Fenilad
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12:03pm Sat 29 Dec 12
A Rover 45 years and over
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12:10pm Sat 29 Dec 12
noddy57
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12:25pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Rayzerisaloser wrote:the problems at ewood run so deep that it is very unlikely to be resolved even with a top manager in place, this damage is catastrofic and will not get any better untill the club is in the right ownership, but a step in the right direction would be to appoint mark robins at coventry,,an excellent young manager,
Shebby at the controls, what a thought,says it all.
jackmetickler
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12:30pm Sat 29 Dec 12
so you just think on as you line your pockets ........
the best way to make sure this scumbag is sacked is to boycott the home games..... if the ground is nigh on empty they will soon get rid of him.
Iiii1111
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12:41pm Sat 29 Dec 12
hasslem hasslem wrote:Totally agree, but what the $€#% are we going to do?.........always said Kean wasn't the problem, just a symptom of the chaos the regime as created since buying the club.
Just so I understand:
AGM yesterday and only finance monkey Silk and chipmunk Coar were present – Shaw - CEO?/MD? whatever, Agnew - Operations Director – I know what that usually entails – but have seen no evidence of operations being directed and Shabby Minge – Global Poo-bah! couldn’t be arsed to attend (Shebby showing Comical Ali around.
Failed Hendry brought in a defensive coach – joke and then relegated to assistant coach of the youth team or whatever – now on the touchline again at Oakwell for no explicable reason.
No manager worth his salt would consider managing Blackburn Rovers (copyright Henning 2011) – No manager worth his salt would consider managing Blackburn Rovers (copyright Hasslem Hasslem December 2012).
Berg not told face to face by Minge that he was canned as he had “important visitors from India to show around”. Other coaches told of their fate by news of twitter release first broadcast on Sky Sports News.
Agnew and Shaw flying out to see the loons in Pune to tell them that nobody knows what the f_uck is going on – including themselves. Also trying to get Shabby sacked.
Talk that a manager will be appointed after the Barnsley game being refuted by Minge, who insists that Rovers is well run and there is no rush to appoint a new manager.
Radio 5live having a phone-in on is there a more laughable club in British football than Blackburn Rovers….and instead of being tempted to ring in and tell them to “mind your own chuffing business you London-centric k_nobheads” you nod sagely in agreement and resignation.
Fans at their wits ends, players unfit and directionless, no shirt sponsor, no corporate take up, attendances through the floor, bottom three clearly visible in rear view mirror. National joke.
W Trust had a responsibility when they sold the club....in my eyes they are to blame for allowing such a regime to own the club....their due diligence process is now seen as a joke.....either they need compensating for the D/D work, going to the FA saying they were duped into selling the club...and want the decision reversing or like I think the D/D process was just a smoke screen allowing the WT to take the money and run not giving a monkeys uncle to the memory of U Jack the fans or the community that helped make their millions
bburnrover
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12:42pm Sat 29 Dec 12
We need to ensure the clowns realise that they need to trust local people from Lancashire to run the club if they persit in appointing aliens we will carry on failing.
glp
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12:43pm Sat 29 Dec 12
bypass06
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12:49pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Norman T Wangler wrote:After reading the comments on here,
next time glen mullan gets a reacharound from shebby i hope he tells him what we all think of them
singh is a muppet
ali is a chancer 'innit'
mullan is a star struck self-appointed nomark nobody.
I can safely say that you are the biggest
Muppet on here.
leitchy
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1:02pm Sat 29 Dec 12
bypass06
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1:04pm Sat 29 Dec 12
l2overs
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1:14pm Sat 29 Dec 12
owd nick
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1:41pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Ewood say that! wrote:I agree. but an FA Cup match could be written off by Venky's as not attractive enough for fans to buy tickets etc; etc. so may not have a great deal of effect.
if we dont have an experienced manager by the the bristol cup tie - boycott it.its the only way!
There was talk of picking an home game last season and boycotting it by going down to Ewood but not going in. I would have done that no problem whatsoever irrespective of which game was chosen, even Man U, City, Liverpool and the like.
But it needs to be organised by people who have some capability and influence not just a few "concerned" fans on here.
Leeds United are on there way in February, if we get it right on the day there will definitely be more Leeds fans in the ground than Rovers fans.
speedie_rovers_legend
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1:47pm Sat 29 Dec 12
owd nick
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1:50pm Sat 29 Dec 12
I have been one of your greatest critics on here but as far as I am concerned what happened last season is dead and buried, I think all Rovers fans want the same thing, Venky's out of our club sooner rather than later.
And while we fans continue to squabble amongst ourselves we loose the focus on getting rid of the people who have wrecked our once proud club.
alfa111
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2:02pm Sat 29 Dec 12
owd nick
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2:07pm Sat 29 Dec 12
speedie_rovers_legenDon't know if that's true or not but lets face it, they can't do much worse than the guys who have played for most of this season.
d wrote:
Most of the portagul players will be in the squad today Boyer as been told by shebby to play them , as iit was shabby who bought them,
Or have we stooped so low that we are going to start slagging players off even before they have put the shirt on? Some probably for the first time.
It isn't the players fault, whoever plays for us now desperately needs our support before and during the game.
Venky's must be the target, no-one else.
blueblooded
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2:09pm Sat 29 Dec 12
Iiii1111 wrote:A few things to clear up:
hasslem hasslem wrote:Totally agree, but what the $€#% are we going to do?.........always said Kean wasn't the problem, just a symptom of the chaos the regime as created since buying the club.
Just so I understand:
AGM yesterday and only finance monkey Silk and chipmunk Coar were present – Shaw - CEO?/MD? whatever, Agnew - Operations Director – I know what that usually entails – but have seen no evidence of operations being directed and Shabby Minge – Global Poo-bah! couldn’t be arsed to attend (Shebby showing Comical Ali around.
Failed Hendry brought in a defensive coach – joke and then relegated to assistant coach of the youth team or whatever – now on the touchline again at Oakwell for no explicable reason.
No manager worth his salt would consider managing Blackburn Rovers (copyright Henning 2011) – No manager worth his salt would consider managing Blackburn Rovers (copyright Hasslem Hasslem December 2012).
Berg not told face to face by Minge that he was canned as he had “important visitors from India to show around”. Other coaches told of their fate by news of twitter release first broadcast on Sky Sports News.
Agnew and Shaw flying out to see the loons in Pune to tell them that nobody knows what the f_uck is going on – including themselves. Also trying to get Shabby sacked.
Talk that a manager will be appointed after the Barnsley game being refuted by Minge, who insists that Rovers is well run and there is no rush to appoint a new manager.
Radio 5live having a phone-in on is there a more laughable club in British football than Blackburn Rovers….and instead of being tempted to ring in and tell them to “mind your own chuffing business you London-centric k_nobheads” you nod sagely in agreement and resignation.
Fans at their wits ends, players unfit and directionless, no shirt sponsor, no corporate take up, attendances through the floor, bottom three clearly visible in rear view mirror. National joke.
W Trust had a responsibility when they sold the club....in my eyes they are to blame for allowing such a regime to own the club....their due diligence process is now seen as a joke.....either they need compensating for the D/D work, going to the FA saying they were duped into selling the club...and want the decision reversing or like I think the D/D process was just a smoke screen allowing the WT to take the money and run not giving a monkeys uncle to the memory of U Jack the fans or the community that helped make their millions
Shaw and Agnew in India so absent from AGM.
Singh pleading his case in Pune to bring in McDonald and his crew.
Shaw and Agnew pleading case for Singhs dismissal.
Ball is in Venky's court right now to decide whose worse, the double team of money grabbing geniuses who brought us such talents as Kean, or the Pundit Singh whose blowing TWO million a month on his purchases and wants Ali on his coaching staff.
Right now since we can't be rid of Venky's without sustaining further decline the best decision Venky's could take is to sack the lot and look to bringing in an experienced manager who can bring his own backroom in and entice experienced boardroom to come in to clean up the mess.
This decision may be the most important one Venky's make in their tenure, as its not about the appointment of a single individual anymore. The boardroom they chose, failed them. They need to go. All of them. Keith Hill is right, there are still plenty of experienced choices out there, but they won't work under a regime that tells them who they can work with and who they have to employ, as Singh is ridiculously trying to do with McDonald.
god Im bored
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3:13pm Sat 29 Dec 12
should be interesting?
Angry From Accrington
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4:31pm Sat 29 Dec 12
They need no worry about not . getting a payoff as I am sure that the Newspapers will be falling over each other to buy their stories!
silverstan
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1:52am Sun 30 Dec 12
Norman T Wangler wrote:I live down south ( Crawley ) & I don't want that **** Shabba Ranks on my manor either !!!
and if shebby singh survives this meeting i honestly believe it will be unsafe for him to walk the streets of blackburn.
the feelings are that high about this clown.
and judan ali needs to sray down south where he belongs.
HE IS NOT WELCOME HERE. FACT.
BRFC75
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6:21am Sun 30 Dec 12
juanbbien wrote:Hendry still there ,UNBELIEVABLE,
The whole thing stinks from top too bottom how the hell is Hendry still there besides his off the field antics what as he achieved since his retirement on the coaching side bugger all,so he must still be hired as an agreement to pay off his dues to the walker family member,the whole club is bloody bent.
THE WHOLE THING "STINKS" of CORRUPTION from top to bottom.
BRFC75
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6:21am Sun 30 Dec 12
juanbbien wrote:Hendry still there ,UNBELIEVABLE,
The whole thing stinks from top too bottom how the hell is Hendry still there besides his off the field antics what as he achieved since his retirement on the coaching side bugger all,so he must still be hired as an agreement to pay off his dues to the walker family member,the whole club is bloody bent.
THE WHOLE THING "STINKS" of CORRUPTION from top to bottom.
stefjam
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1:28pm Sun 30 Dec 12
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Roverthere
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6:42pm Sun 30 Dec 12
turd moor
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2:30pm Mon 31 Dec 12
first call of duty...out with venky's.
boycott them in the next game,they are here purely for the money.
all the rest will foillow
clitheroe blue boy
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3:00pm Mon 31 Dec 12
It's no good whinging on here or on the streets, they don't read these forums or probably the Telegraph.
So stand up for your club and show your feelings by staying away and hitting the Venkys in their pocket. That's what I'm doing until we get a proven manager in charge and hopefully get rid of Shabby Minge at the same time.
And for the record I'm a season ticket holder and have been for over 25 years, but I refuse to take this bull**** anymore until its sorted.
mavrick
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4:54pm Mon 31 Dec 12

Rayzerisaloser says...
7:24am Sat 29 Dec 12